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    The Satire Continues With 'The Hard Times: The First 40 Years'

    NPR's Rachel Martin talks to Matt Saincome and Bill Conway, co-founders of the satirical punk rock news website The Hard Times, about their new book.
    by Rachel Martin Oct 30, 2019 4 minutes
    Bill Conway (left) and Matt Saincome (right) collected their favorite articles from their satirical website The Hard Times for a new book.

    Matt Saincome and Bill Conway are co-founders of The Hard Times, a satirical punk rock website established in 2014. Together with colleague Krissy Howard, they published a book of their favorite articles and some new material called The Hard Times: The First 40 Years.

    Punk rock can mean different things to different people, but there are some ideas that are central to the genre. Punk is anti-establishment. Punk is emotional. It is raw and for the most part, it's pretty serious, which makes it ripe for a good comedic grilling.

    "There's a lot that is funny about punk

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