BOBBY BERK.

It’s doubtful you’ll meet somebody as busy as Bobby Berk. No really – the Queer Eye interior design expert has a global jet-setting life that’s crazy.

In the 72 hours before we meet, Bobby was in LA, New York and Phoenix. After leaving us – on a trip that included an appearance on national television and a date by Royal appointment, in the company of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge – he’s casually off to Las Vegas. Confessing he’s feeling just a tad sleepy (and possibly hungover after partying with Killing Eve star Jodie Comer), Bobby is all ours as we meet to discuss the return of Queer Eye to Netflix with their fourth season, catching up mid-morning at a luxury hotel in Central London. Y’know, a cute place by the river type of vibe.

“Do you enjoy being in the spotlight?” I ask Bobby, pausing to think on his genuine reply. “I think it’s probably the part I struggle with. It was never my plan to be on television or be famous – I didn’t really want to,” he explains, shrugging with honesty.

“Our show attracts the nicest, kindest fans. It’s overwhelming sometimes, but it’s never in a bad way. Everyone is always so nice!”

Adding that while there’s a political divide happening in countries like the USA and UK, a show like Queer Eye offers an escape – with meaning – for people to run with and to. And that includes possibly connecting with people on both sides of the political circle.

“I think one of the biggest reasons and why people have been drawn to it is because both here in the UK and in the States – and I’m sure other countries as well – politically we’re all very divided,” he says. “There’s Brexit and there’s no Brexit, there’s Trump and there’s no Trump. “To see five LGBTQ people go into very conservative, very religious homes and still be able to talk with each other and be friends with each other, and literally