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    Drinking Coffee Elsewhere
    Drinking Coffee Elsewhere
    Drinking Coffee Elsewhere
    Audiobook6 hours

    Drinking Coffee Elsewhere

    Written by Z. Z. Packer

    Narrated by Shirley Jordan

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    About this audiobook

    Audiereg; Award Finalist!A remarkable debut short-story collection by a fresh and captivating new voice in American literature.
    LanguageEnglish
    PublisherHighbridge Company
    Release dateJun 23, 2008
    ISBN9781598878226
    Drinking Coffee Elsewhere

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    • 3/5
      I enjoy Packer's writing, especially the details of heat and scent that put me firmly in her world.

      I loved the first story in the book, the one about the Brownie Girl Scout campout. It was refreshing to read a story with authentic details about Girl Scouting. For example, Tom Perrotta mentioned Girl Scouts briefly in The Leftovers, but they were doing fundraising for another organization, which Girl Scouts aren't allowed to do. Yes, yes, this is a horribly nitpicky detail to cite, but as a lifelong Girl Scout, I found Packer's details helped me form a connection with her and her characters. If the details hadn't been authentic, I wouldn't have felt like trusting her characters. As it was, I sang the "Brownie Smile Song" and "Make New Friends" along with her characters and that helped me to connect with them, which made the story all the more effective.

      But oh, man, are her stories bleak.

      Packer traps her characters. They're trapped by religion, by birth, by race. They're trapped by patterns of behavior and social structures designed to keep them safe and, when they attempt to break out of these structures whether to go to college or to Japan or to Baltimore, they inevitably find ruin and isolation. Of course, they were isolated before they attempted to break away, so her characters are largely damned if they do and damned if they don't.

      In addition, there's a theme of parental abandonment, either by death or by prison or by addiction that lends a certain "original sin" aspect to the stories. Perhaps these characters are destined by their parents' situations to never be able to make a good go of it.

      It's altogether too much like real life, which is kind of a downer.

      I think it would have been less of a downer if this had been a novel rather than a series of short stories. If it were a novel, there would have been just one experience of desolation rather than one after another after another.

      So, I'd like to read more ZZ Packer to see what else she does with her detailed writing style, just not until after I've read something lighter, like something with ponies and bunnies and pigs who herd sheep.
    • 5/5
      Loved these stories and I found the narrator went hand in hand with the text so reading along while listening was the best!
    • 5/5
      This story collection really surprised me. "Before You Suffocate Your Own Fool Self," which I read recently, also featured talented young people of color trying to find their way in the world. What I found so interesting about "Drinking Coffee Elsewhere" was that the stories did not end triumphantly. They explore what happens when a person does not immediately transcend his or her difficult background. The title story in particular takes a hard look at the social isolation of arriving in a privileged world from such a low-income background. "Geese" took that idea to an even greater extreme, leaving its main character failing to fend for herself in distant Japan. The characters in these stories don't emerge with their spirits intact on the other side, and it's difficult to see a real way out for most of them.
    • 5/5
      This is an excellent collection of short stories by an author who was skilled at her craft. The characters are vividly drawn, yet the economy of words that is required in the short story genre is still maintained. The plots are engaging and I was never able to stop reading in the middle of a story and return to it later. They engaged me throughout.
      The stories are about the experiences of being black in a culture dominated by whites. Because of this, this book is a valuable contribution to understanding the immense disservice racism does both the the perpertrators and to the victims.
      This book tells stories which I will long remember and leaves me a little wiser and more empathetic about a situation that is a cancer in the American character and where the current political attituds are likely to make things even worse.
    • 2/5
      Strong characters but short stories always leave me wanting to know what might have happened next.
    • 4/5
      I was glad to find this in the Strand - and doubly so when I got back home to discover it's out of print in Britain! Could replace Lucia Berlin as my go-to recommendation for bookworms, as it has so many different kinds of stories, but theyall manage to be quite deeply affecting. Two thumbs up.
    • 5/5
      This is an excellent collection of contemporary short fiction.  Packer is great at quickly establishing characters, and while the stories tend to be more slice-of-life than a traditional beginning-middle-end format, they're all the better for capturing the nuance of character developments.  Stories range from a conflict among troops of Brownies - one black, one white - to a teenage girl who runs away to Atlanta and is taken in by a pimp, to a boy forced by his father to try to sell birds at the Million Man March.  All the stories are from an outsider's perspective and thus feel very relatable.  I'll be looking out for future work from Z.Z. Packer.
    • 3/5
      Browinies the white girls from the other troupe are not what was expected.Our Lady of Peace it ending leaving me wanting more, no resolution of anything.the Ant of the Self a young man ends up at the Million Man March after he picks up his father. The father is a terrible person.Drinking Coffee Elsewhere a young woman at Yale always has a sarcastic or smart response. She does not take to heart what the Dean is trying to tell her.Speaking in Tongues A young teenager runs away from her strict religious Aunt to try to find her mother in Baltimore. She gets in way over her head.Doris is Coming the only one with a positive ending.Geese a woman goes to Japan, ends up leaving with a group of foreigners with no job, no plan, no nothingOur Lady of Peace A young woman from a small town goes to Baltimore. She refuses to participate in the acting up in the training class because "the student won't misbehave like that". She is not prepared to deal with her inner city class. She has a student arrive who actually cares and scares the other kids into behaving, but she doesn't take any initiative to find out about her student.
    • 5/5
      This is a splendid collection of African-American stories with a zing. They are biting, funny, and extremely well told. In “Brownies”, a troop of Brownie scouts at camp decide to beat up the members of the all-white Brownie troop 909 by claiming they heard one of the troop members saying the word “nigger”. The meeting ground was the girls bathroom. The black Brownies’ encounter with Troop 909 was not at all like what they had imagined. This story is uproariously funny, but it has a sincere message. In “Our Lady of Peace”, Lanea suffers through her first year of teaching at a Baltimore inner city school where she reveals mixed feelings to Sheba, a tough, tall unwed mother whose residence is in Our Lady of Peace.“The Ant of the Self” follows Spurgeon who borrows his mom’s car to take his dad out of jail after posting bail. Little does Spurgeon know, at that time, that he and his dad would be headed to the Million Man March in Washington, DC, to engage in his dad’s entrepreneurial idea.
    • 4/5
      The eight stories in Drinking Coffee Elsewhere reveal an author finding her voice and, perhaps, revelling in its timbre. The best of these stories — I’m thinking of “Brownies,”, “Drinking Coffee Elsewhere,” and “Geese” — show remarkable poise, thoughtfulness, and trust; trust in her readers and in herself. None of the stories is especially innovative. Rather they show a young writer coming into her strength. Rightly lauded by a host of literary luminaries, she is a writer on the verge. What comes next will, I think, be truly exciting.Packer takes on different narrative personae, but in many of her best stories in this collection the voice is of a highly intelligent black woman (whether very young or more mature) gingerly exploring the world around her, more or less successfully. Not always self-aware, the narrative voice is nonetheless urgent and beguiling. It is as though the future is just around the corner and our protagonist is determined to race forward to it rather than wait for its arrival. Inevitably this leads to situations that are unpredictable for the narrator, whether that confusion is due to the subtleties (or lack thereof) of racial demarcation, sexual orientation, or ethno-economic exoticism. When you stride out to meet the future, it often finds you unprepared and scrambling to regain your footing.Gently recommended. And looking forward to whatever ZZ Packer decides to write next.
    • 4/5
      I read this really fast, which is not usually the case for me and short story collections. I liked the first story about Dina a lot, didn't quite understand the second one. Would definitely read more of Packer's work.
    • 4/5
      All the protagonists were black and all but one were female like the author. I got the impression that many of the storeis had an autobiographical element to them. Most of the stories have bitter, sad endings. I was able to read through this book quickly, because all the stories were compelling. None of the pieces felt like filler. The best story of the collection in my opinion was the one about the Brownie troup at summer camp. I would highly recommend this collection to any one who enjoys short fiction.
    • 4/5
      What a collection. I particularly enjoyed how Packer took her characters out of more predictable environments, startling me into rethinking some of my assumptions about race, and about African-Americans. She does this with narrative arcs as well, focusing on unusual aspects of a story on the pre-civil-rights South, which for me heightened the humanity of the characters without typecasting. So impressive.
    • 4/5
      A series of short stories expressing the black inner city experience set at different times in history. Each story was compelling to listen to.
    • 3/5
      A book of short stories focusing on the marginalised. Most of the main characters appear bemused or alienated in the world they inhabit, a number because of their religious devotion, others because they are the only black student in their (school or college) class. The title comes from a story in which a woman imagines herself out of her life and 'drinking coffee elsewhere'. Often, the stories focus on the extreme reactions which can arise when these characters find themselves in difficult situations.I enjoyed the stories - particularly the style, although it could be a little bit creative-writing-class in the shininess of its metaphors. However, I found them a little bit formulaic - my favourite story, "Geese", was the one which moved away from the pattern a little bit, focusing on a group of foreigners in Japan, lucky if they're stuck in dead-end jobs. I also enjoyed "The Ant Of The Self" in which a young man gets stuck with his father trying to make some money out of the Million Man March in Washington DC.
    • 5/5
      A mind-blowing short story collection with characters who truly live and breathe and stay with the reader. ZZ Packer is an extremely talented storyteller and has a realistically imaginative way of subjecting characters to tight, nail-biting situations where they miraculously survive. Highly recommended for short story and novel reading enthusiasts.
    • 5/5
      These short stories are expertly told with just the right amount of tension towards the end that makes the reader want to reread again and again to glean even more insight. The refined language and the memorable characters make this book a real treat to read. It can be useful to any young adult who wants to explore the complexity of being human.
    • 3/5
      [close] I read this book in a college creative writing course, since the wonderful Mickey Hess wanted us to go beyond the classics to see learn about newer, more experimental writing techniques from writers and subject matter with a more varied background. ZZ Packer definitely fit the bill. I, being from a small-town, predominately white area, was largely unfamiliar with the plight of urban African-Americans, and the situations were so different than my realm of experience even when I'd been in a similar sitaution. I too was a Girl Scout, for instance, but it was nothing like this. Still, I did not like Packer's style, and the skill level seemed a bit too simple. In short, I readit simply for eduactional purposes. I will not read any more of her work.
    • 5/5
      I hate ZZ Packer because she's such a great writer and younger than I. Hmph. This is a fantastic collection, crowned by one of the best short stories ever, "Brownies." I highly recommend this book.
    • 3/5
      Man, I love ZZ Packer. The first story I read from this collection was "Brownies," and when I got to the sentence towards the end where the narrator says she suddenly realized "that there was something ugly in the world and I could not stop it," I got the chills that only come from a well-drafted and hard-earned sentence. The stories here are tight, moving, and chill-giving; narrators in hard worlds where they themselves often contribute to the hardness. A book to buy, because you'll want to re-read often. Also a great book to teach.
    • 5/5
      Great stories about black people, mainly women, over the last ~30 years. All are both ugly and beautiful in some ways, and all make mistakes and learn from them. Least successful is a woman who moves to Japan for its beauty and then flounders. Most excellent are two: one about a holy roller daughter who flees to the city and is "saved" by a drug dealer and a whore, without that prototypical story becoming stereotypical; the other a teen boy who uses his debate winnings to pay his deadbeat dad's bail, ends up selling parrots with him at the Million Man March, gets the crap beaten our of him by his drunk dad, and then leaves for home, realizing that he does love the fucker.
    • 3/5
      A friend of mine described ZZ Packer as "David Sedaris lite." I don't think that's quite accurate. With the exception of "Brownies", I thought the stories were teases. They promised much but didn't actually deliver.
    • 5/5
      Long before you open Drinking Coffee Elsewhere, ZZ Packer's voice is a wave born in mid-ocean, gathering strength, obeying the moon's pull, churning toward land, so that when you finally do turn to the first page and read the first paragraph of the first story ("Brownies"), her strong, full, confident voice crashes over you: By our second day at Camp Crescendo, the girls in my Brownie troop had decided to kick the asses of each and every girl in Brownie Troop 909. Troop 909 was doomed from the first day of camp; they were white girls, their complexions a blend of ice cream: strawberry, vanilla. They turtled out from their bus in pairs, their rolled-up sleeping bags chromatized with Disney characters: Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Mickey Mouse; or the generic ones cheap parents bought: washed-out rainbows, unicorns, curly-eyelashed frogs. Some clutched Igloo coolers and still others held on to stuffed toys like pacifiers, looking all around them like tourists determined to be dazzled. From that point forward, everything else is undertow. Packer—whose much-lauded stories have appeared in The New Yorker, Harper's and the late great Story—arrives on the already-crowded short fiction market with all the fiery energy of Flannery O'Connor on a good day. The eight stories in Drinking Coffee Elsewhere are, as the photo on the dust jacket attests, messages in a bottle—or, more accurately, lightning in a bottle. Not only is the writing crisp and sharp, but Packer has a firm chokehold on each of her pitiable characters. She knows their hopes, their dreams, their resounding disappointments. In "Every Tongue Shall Confess," Sister Clareese sings in the choir of the Greater Christ Emmanuel Pentecostal Church of the Fire Baptized and during the rest of the week at her nursing job, tries to convert an obstinate patient who mocks her at every turn. She straps on the Breastplate of Righteousness and marches forward, undaunted as Mrs. May on the horns of the bull in O'Connor's "Greenleaf." In "The Ant of the Self," a champion high school debater picks his father up from jail and reluctantly drives him to the Million Man March in Washington, D.C. There, the ne'er-do-well father hopes to sell exotic birds to "the Afrocentric folks there." The chagrined son tells us, "He's so stupid, he's brilliant; so outside of the realm of any rationality that reason stammers and stutters when facing him." At the March, he hears a preacher exhort his listeners to cast off "the ant of the self—that small, blind, crumb-seeking part of ourselves." Getting rid of his good-for-nothing father isn't so easy, however. "Geese" follows the downward spiral of a group of young people who can't find work in Tokyo and are slowly starving, at one point sharing one grapefruit and one banana between five people. The story relentlessly knocks them down from "the all-knowing arrogance of youth" to increasing desperation. Other stories jolt us to the gritty terrain of drugs and prostitution in Atlanta, an unruly classroom in Baltimore, and a lunch counter in 1961 where a young girl—the only black student in her class—stages a mini sit-in protest. Packer never condescends to her characters, or the reader, as she tells the tales in voices that resonate with wit, anger and wisdom. She has distilled her writing so that, in its 100-proof potency, it goes right to the back of the throat. Consider these two descriptions of characters from "Brownies": Daphne hardly ever spoke, but when she did, her voice was petite and tinkly, the voice one might expect from a shiny new earring. and Usually people were quiet after Arnetta spoke. Her tone had an upholstered confidence that was somehow both regal and vulgar at once. It demanded a few moments of silence in its wake, like the ringing of a church bell or the playing of taps. As William Strunk once advised would-be writers: "Omit needless words. Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts." Nothing is wasted in a ZZ Packer story; every word relentlessly moves the reader forward to climaxes that sometimes leave us dangling in mid-air and sometimes bring us crashing down with, in the case of "Our Lady of Peace," three final, devastating words ("C'mon. Make me."). But on every page of Drinking Coffee Elsewhere, you feel the suck of the under-pulling water. Don't try to resist. Just let yourself drown in her words.