what are the reason a 33kV Bus PT fuse is blowing out frequently?

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ErezUnfollow Follow Erez Erez Vardimon if your system is star, it may be 1) Neutral point may be disconnected 2) Resonance 1 day ago Unlike Like

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HughUnfollow Follow Hugh Hugh Leyton . The Current through that 33kV Bus PT fuse, is exceeding its Current rating for several seconds.

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Ing. OleUnfollow Follow Ing. Ole Ing. Ole Knudsen Overload on the secondary side, or maybe even a short. 17 hours ago Unlike Like

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HughUnfollow Follow Hugh Hugh Leyton Hi Rituraj, We have been trying to encourage you to give more information. Are all three blowing at the same time, or just one of them. ? . Is it the same one each time. ? Are they blowing at the same time each day. ? . ... Is there any pattern or timing. ? . . .etc. Which customers are the first to complain about lost power. ? My crystal ball does not work form over the sea. 16 hours ago Unlike Like

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SEKHARUnfollow Follow SEKHAR SEKHAR BHATTACHARYA Check the loading circuit there may be a weak insulation or turn short for any meter or relay. Thge best solution is take out the fuse check the secondary loading side cable by disconnecting the meters and relays check the IR value of the cable and go for a hv test for 1.1KV-1minute the entire cabling ckt if it withstands then there is no problem with cables ,then load side -any meter may be faulty -try interchanging/replacing meters its a long arduous process requires a lot of patience-but there is no other way too. 12 hours ago Unlike Like

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ErezUnfollow Follow Erez Erez Vardimon I misread and assumed you talked about blown PT. My comment is not correct for the case you described. what I can add to the previous comments is that if it happens during closing the feeder fuse curve may be not matchinh the inrush current. 11 hours ago Unlike Like

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Ing. OleUnfollow Follow Ing. Ole Ing. Ole Knudsen What type of load for the fuse are we talking about? PT as short for Potential Transformer (for protection and metering)? - That is what I would assume, or: PT as short for Power Transformer? - That is what others seem to have assumed. 10 hours ago Unlike Like

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RiturajUnfollow Follow Rituraj Rituraj Bisht hello hugh, No all fuses are not blowing at the same time and this phenomena is being observed generally at a gap of 5-6 month. 6 hours ago Unlike Like

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Rituraj Bisht Hello Sekhar Sir, We have checked evrything from secondary winding resistance to IR value but everything is gud. Everything is fine with Load side. Also we have faced a problem that Potential Transformer is also failing very frequently. One doubt I had in my mind that whether voltage unstability can be the reason for frequent failure and what about Role of Harmonics? 6 hours ago Unlike Like

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RiturajUnfollow Follow Rituraj Rituraj Bisht Hey Knudsen, By PT i mean Potential Transformer 6 hours ago Unlike Like

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SEKHARUnfollow Follow SEKHAR SEKHAR BHATTACHARYA If you have a variac then segregate three PTs individually and check each PT across the other PT by applying 110/1.732 volt through a variac at 1a-n-connect 1A- to other phase 1A,short N-N to the ground-check the output voltage at 1a-1n and this should be same as the input voltage,check for all three PTs for 1minute and ensure all PT is healthy.Additionally

If on the ouput there is a Open delta PT winding then place a suitably sized stabilizing resistor across the open Delta winding for Ferroresonance suppression. This is likely to solve your problem. 4 hours ago
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amitabhaUnfollow Follow amitabha amitabha chaudhuri 33KV P.t failure may be due to Ferro-resonance effect and may be tackeled by process described by sekhar Bhattacharya
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PrashantUnfollow Follow Prashant Prashant Srivastava Rituraj, PTs secondary is supposed to be connected to very high impedance loads e.g.voltmeters, voltage coils of protective relays etc. To solve your problem, first check burden on the PT.If it is marginally higher than rated, fuse failures may be periodic with long gaps in between.
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Ing. OleUnfollow Follow Ing. Ole Ing. Ole Knudsen Like Amitabha mentioned, quite often a damping resistor is needed on the secondary, to eliminate resonance.
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MaheshUnfollow Follow Mahesh Mahesh Gupta Any voltage fluctuation on high voltage side enough to cause increased current for fixed PT load on secondary? You may also check this, if you have metering with trend history.
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Paolo NicolaUnfollow Follow Paolo Nicola Paolo Nicola ZA It could be the fault of the magnetizing current derived from the insertion of the transformers 10 In
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NeilUnfollow Follow Neil Neil Kleyweg In South Africa we found this on a similar base. One fuse pops every so often and not always on the same phase. Question: What do you do when this happens? Does the responsible person only swop out the blown fuse? We went through the whole circuit and found no explanation as to the cause. What we did find was to things: a Introduced spike (in-rush) and only the defective part had been replaced. Try changing all three fuses. There seems to be a deterioration of the fuse's capability if it had been exposed to a sudden inrush or a prolonged life cycle. It would be interesting to see what the effects of annual or bi-annual change of PT fuses will have on the lifespan of a PT.
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Graham Ison If on a resistance earthed system & the PT star point is earthed, in case of a network phase to ground fault, other phase potentials will elevate to L-L volts. Check that the PT is rated appropriately or saturation can result in high primary currents.
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HughUnfollow Follow Hugh Hugh Leyton . South Africa is not far away from Botswana, where we used to have problems with lightning induced surges on our cables. . . .. OK, our cables were telecommunications cables, but no doubt, lightning can also induce large surges in power cables. .. . Is it possible that this could be the cause. ?
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NeilUnfollow Follow Neil Neil Kleyweg In my opinion it could contribute to your problem. As I previously stated. We had scrutinized our entire system (all the wiring, the loads, everything) and we could not isolate the cause. We brought in outside professionals with better test equipment and had done a 6 month stint with their meters. Like both Ole Knudsen( my old friend from ABB) and Amitabha mentioned you can try a damping resistor.

All we eventually did was to change the PT fuses - 3 at a time and this seemed to quell the problem.
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adnanUnfollow Follow adnan adnan ali calculate the fusing rating.

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Raymond TUnfollow Follow Raymond T Raymond T Smith Was it the primary or secondary fuses that are blowing?
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