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TheplotofRodgerRabbitactuallydidhappen.Carcompaniesdemolishedextensivepublic
transportationnetworksthroughoutNorthAmericancitiessothatprivateautomobile
transportationwouldbetheonlyfeasible/convenientformoftransportation.AlthoughIdon't
believethatthissinglehandedlykilledpublictransitinmostoftheUSsincetheAustraliancity
ofMelbournestillhasanextensiverailsystemsimilartowhatmanyUScitieshadbutitisstill
cardominated.However,ifitdidn'thappen,transitwouldattheveryleastbealotlessshitthan
itisnow.
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That7/11wasaparttimejob
Youmustpostaclearanddirectquestion
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ThattheonlyreasonCraig'sshowgetssuchgoodratingsisthathalftheschoolishighon
coughsyrup.
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PlanninglawshereintheUKaredesignedtoprotectthefinancialindustry,notthecountryside.
Seriouslythough,aplotoflandwhichsellsfor10kisINSTANTLYworth150kthemoment
youhaveplanningpermissionforahome.
Ifyoubuildahomeonaplotoflandwithoutplanningpermission,evenifitdoesn'taffectthe
localareaandyouintendtoliveinityourself,thelocalauthoritywillnotonlybulldozeit,but
theywillalsobillyouforthedemolitionandtheircosts.
Ifthelawsreallyareinplacetoprotectthecountryside,whyaredeveloperslikeTaylorWimpey
allowedtobuythousandsofacresoffarmland(whichhasbeenfarmedsinceSaxontimes!)for
nexttonothing,thenafewmonthslater,theyhavepermissiontobuild7,400homesonit?
Yetiftheordinarymanwantstobuyasmallplotoflandandbuildasmall,ecofriendlyhome
forhimselfonit,it'smetwithsomuchoppositionandexcusesonhowitwilldamagethelocal
wildlife,thathegivesup!
Thenagain,ifabankhasjustloanedsomebody500,000tobuyahouse,andthenthenext
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yeartheirneighboursellsuptobuildahousejustasniceforatenthofwhattheysoldtheir
housefor,doyouhonestlythinkthathouseisstillworth500k?Ifpeoplestoppedborrowing
hundredsofthousandsofpoundsjusttoprovidearoofovertheheadsoftheirfamily,thebanks
wouldn'tmakeanymoney!
It'sapracticewhichiskeepingpeoplelikemeandmyfiancefrombuildingourselvesahumble
littlelogcabintolivein,andinsteadwepayover800($1500)amonthplustaxesforavery
smallflat(apartment)aboveanItalianrestaurant.
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[Serious]
Almostallofthemholdsometruth.
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LateandAustraliaSpecificbutthatMurdochhavetheliberalstheelectiontofudgetheNBNso
thatFoxtelstaysrelevant.
Modposts
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SomecontextforthenonAustralians.Laborwasinpower,hadmajoritysupport,hadagreat
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maketheNBNslower,moreexpensive,andtakelonger.
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LymediseasewasmanufacturedbytheUS.
Inthe1930's,Dr.ErichTraubwroteapaperabouthowitwouldbeagreatbiologicalwarfare
vectortospreaddiseaseviaanimalsthatcouldfreelyroamthecountry,likedeerorespecially
ticksondeer.HewaslaterinchargeoftheThirdReich'svirologicalandbacteriologicalwarfare
programinWorldWarII.Afterthewar,justlikeWernerVonBraum,hewasbroughtovertothe
USaspartofOperationPaperclip.TraubwasputtoworkinMaryland.TheUSoperateda
biologicalmaterialslabonPlumIslandoffthecoastofNewYork.Afterseveralyears,Traub
becameheadofthatlab.Afterseveralmoreyearstherewasagianthurricanewhichcracked
theouterandinnercontainmentwallsofthelabandcausedquiteabitofdamage.Deer
commonlymigratedbetweentheislandandthemainland,aswellasflocksofbirds.Shortly
thereafterinthetownofLyme,anewdiseasestartedtocropup,whichwasnamedafterthe
towninwhichitwasfirstspotted.Lymediseaseisspreadbydeerticks.Theconspiracyisthat
thegovernmenteithercreateditoutright,ormanagedtoinfecttickswithitwhichescaped
duringthehurricaneandinfectedbirds/deer(deerareimmunetothesymptomsoflyme
diseasethey'rebasicallythetyphoidMary'soflymedisease).Therearesomestudieswhich
foundreportsofdeathsfromsimilarsymptomsgoingbacklongbeforeWWII,butarethose
reallydeathsfromwhatwenowcalllymediseaseorsomethingsimilar?
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ThataninorganicsubstancesimilartoDonaldTrump'shairismanufacturedbysub
organizationsintheIlluminatiandexportedtoThirdWorldCountriesbyUnicorms.
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IlovehowtheNSAisnowtheboogymanforeverythingnowdays.Ican'tremembereven
hearingabouttheNSAtenyearsago.
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VicePresidentUnderwoodkilledPeterRussoandZoeBarnes.
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ThemediaislyingtousaboutthesituationinSyria,therealreasonpeoplearemigratingoutis
becausethere'sabiggaywerewolfrunningaroundhumpingeveryonesleg.
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Yousee,initiallyitwasjustonewerewolf,butitisgrowingexponentially,andpeopledont
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"Whatconspiracytheoryisprobably
true?"fornoapparentreason?
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FrancepondersoutlawingTor,among
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1. Globalwarmingwasmadeupinordertopushpeopletowardsalternativeenergy.
2. ThisismostlyapowerplayagainsttheMiddleEastandotheroilbasednations.
clear
accountactivity
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Redditadminsrandomlygiftgoldtostupidcommentsjusttomakepeoplethinkthatgiftinggoldiswhatcoolkidsdo.
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LeeHarveyOswaldwaslikelyincontactwithCubanexpatriatespriortotheKennedyassassination.Howeverthedegreetowhichthey
wereinvolvedintheplanningorexecutionofthemurderishighlyquestionable.
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Paulisdead.
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Owlsarefake.
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ThatbitchkilledKurt!
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Oneworldgovernment,andoneworldcurrency.ExcepttheEUisdoingagreatjobbankruptingitselfandbitcoinhappened.
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RooseveltwaspoisonedandreplacedbyhisidiotVPwhoagreedtodoashewastoldbyDulles.TheCIAhasruntheshoweversince.
Ikewarnedus.Kennedytriedtostopit.Nixonwasinonitfromthegetgo.TheresthaveeitherinonitliketheBushfamily,gonealong,
orjustbeenfigureheadslikeReagan.CompareObama's2008campaignpromisestowhathe'sreallydone.Gitmoisstillupand
running8yearslater.
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Theterm"conspiracytheory"washijackedbytheCIAinordertopopularizeitasacatchphraseforallcrazyideasandtolessenvalid
claimsagainsttheshadowgovernmentandblackbudgetprojects.
Toseeitinactionlooknofurtherthanmostofthetopratedcommentsinthisthread.Theyaren'tillegalandthereforearen'ttrue
conspiracies.
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MuhammadAli'ssecondfightwithSonnyListonwasasham,inwhichListonwasorderedtolose.
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7/11wasmyparttimejob
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Slushiescanmeltsteelbeams.
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Slushiescanmeltsteelbeams.
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JFKkilledJFK.Somepeoplethinkhewantedtosetuphisownshootingtoboostratingsbecausehewasn'tdoingtohot.Itwas
supposetojustinjurehimandhe'ssurviveandbeahero,butSUPPOSEDLYtheshootermissedandkilledhim.Yep100%accurate,
totallytrue.
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BerenstEin/BerenstAinBears.thatshitisrealyo.
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Theilluminatiaredevilworshippers.
SEE"THEARRIVALS"series
They'reprettyconvincing
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TherewasprobablyasecondKennedyshooter.
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FacebookandGoogleareCIAprojectsforcollectingpersonaldata.
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Andyoulooksuspiciousafifyoudon'tusethem:$
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DanSchneider,thecreatorofseveralliveactionTVshowsforNickelodeon,isapedophile.Heevenmadeaprompt,forfollowersofa
showhemade,towritethedateofitsseasonpremiereontheirfeetandpostthephotosonline.
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Thisthoughthascreptintomyheadafewtimes.
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Designersandbeneficiariesofconspiraciesmentionedherehavebotsthatautomaticallydownvotesubmissionscallingthemout.
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IfuusetheREEFERurspinewillbcomeSNAKE(n)
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GoogleislitteralyBigBrother.
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Yes!Samegoesforcheapershampoos/conditioners.Whenyoubuyaprofessionalgradeproduct,whichareusuallypricierthanover
thecounterbrands,you'repayingforresearchandhighqualityingredients.BrandslikeCovergirlaremassproducedforageneralized
demographicthatislookingforainexpensivepricepointwithmediocretoprettygoodresults.Sink50$intoabottleofFaceAtelier
foundation,(oranyotherhighqualityHDfoundation,thatoneisjustmyfave!)andyou'llnevergoback.LastsformonthsBcofthe
concentrationofpigment,somybottlelastsmeabout8months.
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Sonyfakedahacksotheycouldpublicize"theinterview"anduseaterroristicthreatto"taunt"americansintoseeingthemovie
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Theonlywaytheycouldlegitimatelygetanyonetoseethatsteamypile.
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ThewholeFederalReserve/Centralbankingsystem,andourenslavementtodebtbasedmoneysystem.It'snotevenreallymuchofa
conspiracy,moreofanallusiontothetruth.Theconspiraciesstarttocomeinwhenasking,"WhoownstheFederalReserve?"
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IfindthetimingofJ.F.K'sdeathinterestingduetohimdeclaringhewoulddestroytheCIAandtalkingaboutaplotagainsttheUSdays
before.
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JewswanttodestroyEuropeancountriesandcountrieswherethemajorityisdescendedfromEurope
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ThatvotingmachinesintheUSAareriggedandcanbeprogrammedtogiveresultsinonefavor.AtleastsomeNASAprogrammerwho
helpedworkingonthesemachinestoldsoinfrontofcourtacoupleofyearsago.
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That9/11wascommittedbytheUSgovernment.
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Hooknosedpeopleareevil:
AftermonthsofcontinuousinternationaltravelanddecadesofAmericanlifeIhavecometotheconclusionthatallhooknosedpeople
arecompletegarbage.Theyactdifferentlyandhaveacompletelydifferentdemeanorthantherestofus.It'snotjustJews.Itisallhook
nosedpeople.
Iwasblindtothisformostofmylife.IthinkitwasbecausemanyactorsarehooknosedandplaynicepeopleonTVandinmovies.I
wasprobablyjustbrainwashed.ConsideringHollywoodisrunbyhooknosedJewsIamnowcertainthisbrainwashingwasdeliberate
onthepartoftheevilmediaproducers.
Thedifferenceisnightandday.Ifyouhaven'tnoticed,trypayingattention.Noticethewayhooknosedpeopleturntheirbackstoyou
asyoupassthemonthesidewalk.Noticetheirrudedemeanor.Lookatthebehaviorofhooknosedpeopleinyourlivesversusthatof
theothers.Yes,Jewsaretheultimateexamplesofthis,butIthinktheissueisbiologicalandnotreligious.Infact,thenonhooknosed
JewishpeopleIencounteredinAustriaweresomeofthebestpeopleI'veevermet.
Thedifferencetranscendsrace.Hooknosedblacksaregenerallypiecesofs***,whileblackswithstreamlinedprofilesandupward
turnednosesaretypicallygreat(althoughstillblack).ThisruleappliestoIndians,Asians,andallotherethnicities.Ihavefoundno
exceptions.None.Itisalmostasifhooknosedpeopleareapurelyevilspecies.Ihavealsonoticedthathooknosedpeopleareallfully
awareoftheirevilnature,whilemostnonhooknosedpeoplearenot.Itreallydoesseemlikehooknosedpeopleareallpartofasilent
conspiracyofevil.
Ithinkitistimewestopfocusingonskincolorandtakeareallookatfacialbonestructureandclassicaleugenicsasawayof
measuringracialsuperiority.Ifwe'regoingtohavearacewarwebettermakesuretodrawthebattlelinescorrectly.
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...what
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Yehtheythinkallfoundationdoesthis.
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conspiracytheoryd
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MichaelHastingswasmurderedbythegovernmenttosilencehim.
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TheBushAdministrationknewtheentiretimethatSaddamhadnoWMDsandhadnoconnectiontothe9/11attacks.
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KonamiwasintimidatedawayfrombackingSixDaysinFallujahbytheUSMilitaryinsteadofpublicoutcry.
IhavenoproofbutI'm14hourslateandwantedtocontribute.
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Thesandyhookshooting.Everypieceofevidenceprovesitdidn'thappen.Watch"weneedtotalkaboutsandyhook"onYouTube.The
followingdayourgovernmentrollsoutguncontrolplans.
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Thegubminttalksaboutguncontrolaftereverybigshootingyousillygoose
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Nowthisisanastyknock?
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Thewealthypowereliteswhorunthisworldreallydon'tgiveashitwhetheracertaingroupgetssocialequality.Theyjustwantusto
keepfightingeachothersowedon'tturnoutattentiontothem.
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Thepowerliesintheproles.
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HowAnonymousstoppedKarlRovefromstealingFlorida,VirginiaandOhiointhe2012U.S.presidentialelection.
InterestingtonotethatObamastillwould'vebeatRomney272266,orperhapsyoucansaythatsinceFlorida,VirginiaandOhiofailed,
therestoftheplanforotherstatesthatwould'vegivenRomneythenecessary270werescrapped.Whoknows...
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/did_anonymous_stop_rove_stealing_the_election/
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Thereisacureforbreastcancer.
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MaybeheintendstobetraytheotherwayalsothoughjuriesexpectcomplicatedforensicsandDNAinahealthyhelpingofdramaand
oversimplification.
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Thisismyowntheory,butsomeoneprobablyfigureditoutaswell.
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NeilPatrickHarrisdoesnotexist.It'sjustoneofBarney'splaysfromtheplaybook.ThewholeHIMYMshowwascreatedfortwo
purposes:
1)ToshowhowawesomeBarneyis(andheisreallyawesome)
2)TocreatethispersonaofagayactorwhosenameisNeilPatrickHarris('veryuniquefakename'justlikeLorenzovonMatterhorn).
Aftertheshowgainedonpopularity,hestartedpostingadorablepicturesofhim,hispartnerandtheirchildrenonsocialmedia.That
wasalldesignedtoconvincewomenthathe'sjustasweetgayguy.Thiswaytheylettheirguarddownaroundhimanditison!
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TheattackonthefirstDeathStarwasaninsidejob,DarthVader'ssonfiredtheshotmeanwhileDarthwasflownoutatthelastminute
whileallotherfighterswereforbiddenfromlaunching.
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thatjewsownthemedia.takealookatyourcollegetextsrightnow.howmanyjewishnamesareonthecover?morethanhalfthe
namesarejewishatleast.collegetextsarejustaneasyexamplethatyoucanlookatinyourdailylife.
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Okay,thisthingkeepspoppingupsoIdon'tknowTheorythemodsareoneithersidelineassessingpossibleconcussions.
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Thespellcheckerinyourbrowserispurposelymadeweaksoyoucanstilldiscernssomeone'srelativeintelligencebytheirspellingand
grammar.Everyone'sinontheconspiracy.acceptme.
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Iamsurethattoothpastecompaniespurposelyshowpeopleusing34xasmuchtoothpasteasisnecessaryinordertomakepeople
thinkthatthatisthenormalamountoftoothpastetouseinordertomakeatubelastashorteramountoftime.Makingpeoplebuymore
andmoretoothpastesoonerthantheywouldneedto.
AllyoureallyneedisaboutthesizeofapeabuteverycommercialfortoothpasteI'veeverseenshowsthemcoveringtheentireheadof
thebrushwithit.
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Bushdid9/11
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Mosttheunbelievablethingsthatinvolvesomeonedoingunspeakableshitsothattheyoranotherpartygainmorepowerorlargesums
ofmoney.
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9/11
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Thatcompaniesandfacilitieswhosefinancialinterests,andgeneralexistence,lieinthesurvivalofthediseasestheyarepittedagainst
actorwillactintheinterestsofthegroupandelectto"treat"saiddiseaseasopposedto"worktowardacure."
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ThetheorythatadozenjihadistslearnedtooverpowercrewandflyplanessothattheycouldcrashthemintobuildingsinNewYork
andWashingtonwithfullfueltanks.
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JFKwasshotbyattheveryleasttwoshooters.
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IdunnosomethingaboutStargateSG1beingacoverupforsomerealalienstuffgoingdown
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TheU.ScreatedISIS,fundedthem,andtrainedthemtooverthrowtheSyriandictator,andhavetheproblemlayoutonitsown.Well..
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WeinvadedIraqforoil.
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R+L=J
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Jetfuel'sinabilitytomeltsteelbeams
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DarthDarthBinks,obviously.
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Agovernmentallyrunmediablitztobreedintelligenceoutofamericansociety.Afalsedemocracydoesn'tworkwithyouhaveamillion
peoplethatseethroughtheact,youneedpeopletobelievethattheyactuallyhaveavoiceinthesystemregardlessofthefactthat
you'revotingforthechancetohaveyourvoteheard.
Onasimilartopic:We'relivinginatimewherescienceispushingtwoavenuesofevolution:1thesuperintellectAND2thesurrogate.
We'llseetheadventofbothinourlifetimeit'sjustamatterofwhichoneisbetamaxandwhichoneisvhs.
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Jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeams
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BulletswerefiredatJFKfrommorethanonelocation.
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BobRosswasthesecondcomingofChrist.Thinkaboutit,heusedanALMIGHTYbrush,heCREATEDlandscapesandhebeatthe
DEVILoutofit.
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Joffreyandhissiblingsareallbastards.
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Ihavealittlebookallaboutcrazyconspiracies.Ittalksaboutaliens,JFK,chemtrailsandallthatothergoodstuff.Attheendofeach
partitgivesapercentageofhowlikelyeachconspiracyisactuallytrue,JFKassassination30%forexample.
ThehighestnonconfirmedconspiracytheorythebooktalksaboutisMLKJr.assassinationat75%.Whichatfirstseemscrazythatthe
governmentwouldkillMartinLutherKing,untilyourealizethattheytriedtokillhimbeforeinaconfirmedcaseofgovernment
sponsoredblackmail.
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JarJarBinksistherealsithlord
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Thatthereisaparalleluniversebecauseofthealteredspellingofberensteinbearstoberenstainbears.
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911,SandyHook,Paris,UFOcoverups,thelistgoeson.Probablycloseto100%.
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Thatthereisagovernmentthatisoverthelegitgovernmentwehave...theycontrolthepresidentsandifigavethemanameitwould
bethe"Hovernment"
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[] omgfckbuttz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IjustgotreallystonedandthoughtabouthowhilariousitwouldbeifBlistex'smarketingstrategywasjusttwitterandredditbakers
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[] WoodyCarson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamagaveErdoantheordertofireonRussiainordertoprovokeawarwithRussia.
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[] Vonnegut9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatWalgreensandCVSareownedbythesamecompany.Inordertopreventarivalfromcomingintotheirturf...theydecidedto
createontoensurethatnootherstrytocompeteontheirlevel.
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[] SirTickleTots undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sacommonplanforlotsofcompanies.Ican'trememberspecificnames,butiremembertworivalingcompanieswithopposite
politicalstancesownedbythesameparentcompanytomaximizerevenue.
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[] HazyBoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovearrangedKurtCobain's"suicide".
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[] Snappierwogg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams.
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[] Tezakism undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
U.S.Presidentspurposefullychosebuffoonsorcompletelyunlikablepeopleastheirvicepresidenttoavoidassassination.
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[] Thokkerius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatRadovanKaradzichadaDealandwasprotectedbytheU.S.foryears.
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[] TranceKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
feminismandthiswholeblacklivesmattersthingarebothmediacreatedthingsthataretryingtoputmenagainstwomenandblackvs
whitesagainsteachother..alltodistractusallfromtherealissuesthataregoingonbehindthescene.
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[] 1998dude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Abstractartisusedformoneylaundering.Thepaintingsarecompleteshit,butpeoplestillpaymillionsforthem.Whywouldtheypay
millionsunlesstheywerelaunderingit?
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[] ScenesfromaCat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireallyenjoyalotofmodernarttypestuffthough.Malevich'sBlackSquarehasastrangeappealtomethatIcan'tquiteexplain.
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[] sp311man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ontherealthough,artisusedalotformoneylaundering.somepeoplereallyenjoyit,butforthemostpartitsadrugfront
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[] K5izzle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneword.Aliens.
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[] notexecutive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNSAonlyhoardsinformationbecausetheguyinchargeactuallyhasafetishforinformation.
Yes,that'sright.He'sjackingofftothiscommentrightnow.
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[] Chubboobooy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheRussiangovernmentdeliberatelyprecludedallrescueattemptsofthestrickenKursksubmarine.
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[] etchings undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mlate.JFKwasassassinated.
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IfirmlybelievethatShakespearewasactually,EdwarddeverecountofOxford,probablyspelledhisnamewrong
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[] EvilPhd666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemilitaryisdeliberatelyloosingthewarsoverseasandsuccessfullywinningthewaragainsttheUSCitizensfortheenrichmentof
corporations.TheCitizensaretheenemytocorporateprofits.
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[] jallfairs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howcanyouspelleverysinglewordonthiscommentcorrectlyandthenspelllosinglikethat?
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[] EvilPhd666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanksforinformingmeofmyspellingerrorontehinternets/u/jallfairs.
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Urwelkong
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[] Adingoateyourbaby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DonaldTrumpisaredherring.
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[] thecasualcaucasian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*orangeherring.
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[] starlightlovesgirl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mostofthem
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[] jaretok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11!Withoutnamingnamesofwhowasresponsible.Themainstorylineofhowthebuildingscamedownissogoddamnweak,Idon't
seehowanyonecouldbelieveit.Buildingsdon'tfalloverlikethatfromairplanes,fire,orfornoreasonatallinthecaseofbuilding7.
Theywereveryclearlydemolishedwithexplosives.
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[] Slothhz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BearensteinBears.
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NasasawhowGravitythemoviescaredalotofpeoplefromgoingintospacesotheymadesureTheMartianmadeitlooksupercool
andheroic.
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[] popstar249 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelievetheUSGovernmentwasawareoftheimpendingattackson9/11andsomeonedeliberatelychosetoallowittohappen.How
farthatgoes,Iwon'tbothertospeculate.I'malso100%confidentitwasnotaninsidejob.Radicalizedterroristsplotted,trainedand
attackedontheirown.Thetowerscollapsedontheirown.Allofthatwasreal.Ijustthinkweknewitwascoming,couldhavestoppedit
butdidn't.Manyhavebecomeverypowerfulthankstothoseattacks.IfIhadtopointafingeratsomeone,I'dstartwithCheneythen
Rumsfeld.Dubyawasapatsy.
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[] EEKaWILL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisismoreplausiblethendubyaandCheneyscheeminginbackrooms
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[] watcher45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoundssimilartotheideathatFDRknewtheJapaneseweregoingtoattackonDecember7thandstillletitinodertogettheexcuse
heneededtogettheU.S.intothewar.
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[] ChiTownStoolie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therehastobetheproperscienceandtechnologytomakeroadsandhighwayslastforeverbynow.It'sjustabigconspiracytokeep
roadsunderconstructiontimeandtimeagain,yearafteryear.Yes,thereisexpansionandadditionprojectsbuttheconstantrepairsare
tokeeptheworkersworkingandthetaxpayerspaying.
Samegoesforalternativefuelcars.Weareprobablyfurtheralonginthetechnologythanweareledtobelievebuttheoiltycoonspay
toprolongtheinevitabletokeeprakingintheoildollarsuntiltheyfindanewwaytogougethepublic.
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[] eatthebankers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagree.Itcanreplaceallpetroproducts,withecofriendlyreplacements.LookintoHempcrete.Eventhe50,000otheruses.(BTW,They
justfounda3000yearoldHempshirt.)
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[] Herazim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samegoesforprettymuchanythingifyouthinkaboutit.Computerscanbemorepowerfulbutno,theyhavetomakemoneyofoffitso
theyputweakerstuffonthemarketsothatconsumerskeepupgradingtheirPCs.There'snomoneytobemadeifpeoplealreadyhave
thebeststuffanddon'thavetobuysomethingelseforyearstocome.
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mooreslaw,newb.
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[] thedvorakian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mothersencapsulatingplacentaforconsumptionwasa4Chanjokethatsomeonetookseriously.
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[] hyperboy328 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatDonaldTrumpwashiredbytheClintoncampaigntodismantletheGOP.
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[] AzAfAr28 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthegovernmentissecretlyworkingandtestingonaliens
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[] Trevmejia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Humansarealiensthathaveevolvedhundredsofthousandsofyearsinthefuture.(Likethetheoryofevolution)AndUFO'saretime
travelingmachines.
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[] netsfan1000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EllenPaostillsecretlyrunsredditandhasbeenkeepingquietallthistime.
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[] CelebSlut_DPP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatbiggovernmentsaroundtheworld(USorUK)don'tdenycontactwithaliens,andevenhaveexemployeespretendtobecrazyso
thatpeopletryandprovethattheyareincahootswithaliens,meaningthattheywon'tlookattheiractualsecretprojectstheyare
workingon.
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Jewscontrolthemedia,banking,andfinanceindustriesintheUSA.
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That911wasaninsidejob
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[] golgol12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RupertMurdockistheleaderbehindthescenesoftheRepublicanparty.ThatisbecauseFoxistheonlyrepublicanTVnetwork,soif
anyonegoesagainstthem,theyjeopardizetheirelectionchances.
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[] TheRealSilverBlade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imaygetsomehateforthis:
MuslimsaretaughttobelievethatamanhavingmultiplewivesiswithintherulesofIslam.ThisallowsMuslimfamiliestogrowand
growlikerabbits.
ThisisencouragedsothatMuslimswilleventuallyoutnumbereveryotherreligioncombined.ThiswilleventuallyleadtomoreMuslims
gettingpoliticalinfluencetochangelawsineverycountrytobemoreproMuslim,suchasShariaLawandlawslikethat.
It'sallaboutnumberstoeventuallybecometheonlyreligionlegallyallowedbylaw.
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[] blehhjblahh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwehaveneverinmoderntimesmadecontactwithextraterrestrials
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[] locks_are_paranoid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KittyHistory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faOUDoRmK_E
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[] unit138 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IntheUS:GOPispromotinglowerteacherwagesandhighertuitioncoststomakeeducationmoredifficulttoattain.GOPvotersare
statisticallymoreinclinedtobeuneducated.GOPisplayingthelonggameofriggingelectionsoutsideofactuallyriggingelectionsby
makingmorepeopleuneducatedandmoreinclinedtovoteGOPcontinuingthecycle.
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[] mynameiskimmeh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MichaelJacksonwasconvertingtoIslam.Hewasremovedbecausehehadsuchamassivefollowing.Seriously,Ihavenoideaifthis
is'probablytrue'.Hasanyoneelseeverheardaboutthis?...hehadthemostbizarrelife.Amazingkindofperson..
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[] Fullsailguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheWWEwon'tgiveDanielBryantheallcleartowrestleagain(Hewasinjured)becauseheismorepopularthanRomanReigns,
andWWEwantRomanReignstobetheirtopguyforthenext25years.
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[] DIWIC2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatEAandDiceareastroturfingthehelloutofreddittopromotethenewSWgame.Withallthepostscomingtofrontpageitseems
redditisinlovewithSW:BF,butalltheuserreviewsonMetacriticpaintsadifferentpicture.
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[] embaked undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YitzchakRabinsmurderwasnottheworkofalonegunman.Israelisecurityjustisn'tthatslack.
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JFKwasn'tkilledbyOswald.Whywouldsomerandommafiaconnectedguy(Ruby)whowasn'tinvolvedinpoliticskilleOswald.He
wasapatsy
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[] Squizzzard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatpugswerenotreallytheresultofhumanassistedbreeding,butwereactuallyGod'sfirstattemptatmakingdogsandhefuckedup
bigtimeandspreadthebreedingrumortocoveruphisfuckup.
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Allofthem.
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LBJdidit,HedidforthePRESIDENCY.
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I'vealsoheardalessevilrumor,butbasedonthis:LBJknewthatasaliberalDemocratfromTexas,hehadzerochanceofbeing
electedPresident.SohehitchedhisridetoaPresidentthatwasa)electableandb)infailinghealth.
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9/11
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[] mcarlini undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themovie"Everest"wascreatedtodiscouragepeoplefromwantingtotrytosummititsincetourismandovercrowdingisbecominga
problemthere.
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[] NefariousStray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettyirrelevant,sincethey'realreadybeginningtoseverelylimitthenumberofpeoplewhocanascend.
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[] VictorVaughan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThegovernmentassassinatedMichaelHastings.
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Thatthevastmajorityofpeoplewon'tbeharmedbytakingamajoramountofadrugthathasbeenprovento1)causepeopletokick
backandfeelhappy,2)thatthehumanbodydemonstrablydidn'tevolvetobeabletohandle,3)iscontinuallybeingrefinedinnew
waystopushitsactiveingredienttoaffectpeoplemore.
YouallknowwhatdrugI'mtalkingabout.
I'mtalkingaboutsugar.
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[] ihaveamonkeyonmyhead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thegovernmentwantstobantheprivateownershipoffirearmsthengofullontyrant.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4
undertheRUSEofpreventingwar.theyknowthatitwon'tstopwar,itjustmeansthattheyhavefullcontroloftheweapons
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[] flecknoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthewholefictionofrobotsonedaybeingabletotakeoverourworkisadistractionfromtheplantoneverstopofferingunderpaid
shittyjobstothemajorityofpeople.
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JFKwasassassinatedbythemob
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Ibelievethisformultiplereasons.Firstly:WhywouldLeeHarveyOswaldkillthepresidentofthegovernmentwhohadlethimbackinto
thecountryafterhedefectedtorussia,denouncedhiscitizenship,andhebroughtbackarussianwifecarryinghischild.Hespent2
yearsinrussia,butthefirstsixmonths,hewasinaKGBinternmentcamp,beinginterrogatedunderthesuspisionthathewasactually
aspyfromtheusgovernment,becauseofhispreviouswarexperience,beingaradiooperatorfortheusmilitary,butwasalsoworking
undercoverfortheciatoreportofanyantimilitarytalkheheardovertheradio,andwastrainedfullyforespionagepurposesthoughhe
neverusedthem.Uponhisreturnhesettledinneworleans,thecenteroftheanticubamovement,whichwashugeatthetime,andhe
startedaprocubalocation,supportingcubaandcastro.Whenquestionedabouthismorals,hetoldeveryoneonlive,nationaltelevision
thathewasamarxist,butmadeadistinctionbetweenthatancommunism,whichwasnotunderstoodpreviously.Hecontinuedtolive
inneworleans,untiltwoorthreeweeksbeforetheassassination,helefthishomecarryingonlyhisriflewithhim,onatriptogomeet
withhisfriend,andgo"duckhunting"inaspot,onlymilesawayfromwherekennedywasshotandkilled.Duringtheshooting,the
generalconsensuswasthattherewerethreeshots,onethathitkennedyinhischest,wentthroughhishand,andintoconnolly,
commonlyknownasthe"magicbullet"butthatbulletactuallymakessense.Thesecondbulletwasshotandmissedkennedy,hitting
thepavementandchippingapieceofitupandintoaspectatorsface,butthatbulletmakessense.Thebulletthatdoesntmakesense
inmyhead,isthethirdbullet,thatmakesmethinkthathewasnotthelonegunmanintheshootingofJFK.Thisbullethitskennedyin
thehead,andsendsachunkofhisbrainflying,andtheforceofthebulletsendshisheadtothebackandtotheleft,asviewedinthe
zapruderfilm.Mrs.kennedyreachesbackto"grabhisear"butibelieveitwastogetthesecretserviceagentonthebackofthecar,
andhelphimontothecar.Afterthethirdshot,LHOwipedhisguncleanofALLfingerprints,the"all"isimportantrememberit,thenhid
therifle,andsprinteddownpast3witnesseswho"neversawhim"andintothebreakroom,andstoppedtobuyacoke,andwhen
spottedbuyingacokehewasapparentlynotoutofbreath,aftersprintingdown6flightsofstairs.odd,butwhatever.Hethensatdown,
slowlydrinkinghiscoke,onlytobeabrupltlydisruptedwiththeinformationthatthepresidenthadbeenshotandkilled,whichhereacted
to,unsuprised.Afterfinishinghiscoke,heleftoutthefrontdoor,insteadofleavingoutthebackdoor,whichwasclosertothebreak
room.Heleftthebookdepository,andgotinhiscaranddrovetoaclosemovietheater,andalthoughhehadcloseto15dollarsatthe
time,hedecidedtotryandsneakintothemovietheater,onlytobenoticedbythemanager,whopromptlycalledthecops.Nowthisis
thepartthatreallymakesmebelievehewasapatsy,orthefallguy.Insteadofoneortwocopsshowingupatthetheater,closeto
thirtycopsshowup,whoshouldhaveallbeenonthehuntforJFKallshowuptogetherforasimplemoviecall.Thiscouldbeexplained
bythefactthatthecopswereonhighalert,becauseimeanhellthepresidentwasjustshot.Eveniftheywereonhighalert,istilldont
believetheywouldhavesentthatmanycopsiftheydidnthaveinsideinformationonLHObeinginthetheater.Heisthentakeninand
givenacompletelyimproperhandling,aunusualhappeningforapolicedepartmentwithapreviousrecordthatwasunfailing.The
policedoacompletesweepofthetexasbookdepository,andtheyfindtherifle,butputitbacktobeableto"findit"oncamera.They
bringtherifleintothestation,findNOfingerprintsofanykindonit,thensendtherifletotheFBIwhohadstartedtostepinonthe
investigation.TheFBIconducttheirowninvestigationiftherifle,andalsofindnofingerprintsandsenditbacktothelocalpolice.Upon
areinspectionoftherifle,theyfindapalmprintontherifle,andquicklyidentifyitasLHOpalmprint.Sketchy,becausetwoinspections
didntrevealanythingbefore,evenwiththeFBIhugeresourcesathand.Thepolicedecidetomoveoswaldtoasaferlocation,andwhile
movinghimthe~50feetfromthedoortothepolicecarheisshotbyjackruby,alocalownerofastripclubandbar,bothwhichwere
frequentedbypoliceofficersduringtimeoff.Rubyalsohadconnectionstothemob,andthatisthefinalpieceofanincrediblepuzzle
thataddsuptothepictureofLHObeingsetup,apatsyforthemobwhohadsetupmultiplekillers,preparingtokillthepresident,and
thenLHO,buryingtheevidence.
TL:DRHewassetup,youreallyshouldreadthefullstory,ittookupwardsofanhourtowritebecauseiamonmobile.Ifyouhaveany
otherquestionsfeelfreetopostoraskmetheminamessage.
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[] MK_Ultra_Never_Ended undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatintelligenceagencies,contractors,andsubcontractors,orbotsthereofkeeppostingthisquestiononsocialmediatoseewhat
peopleknowandtotagthemforobservanceandautomatedpsychologicalwarfare/manipulationtactics.
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[] Masterminderman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kennedy'sassassinationdonebythegovernment.
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[] aliceandbob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
well,thewhole"they'respyingoneverythingyoudothing"turnedouttobeprettydamnreal...
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[] 4chan_Is_Way_Better undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatcompaniespayreddittopushcommentsandlinksubmissionsthatareactuallypoorlydisguisedadvertisementsforproducts
(mostlymoviesandgames)tothefrontpageandtothetopcommentspots.
Thebestexampleisthis,whichcameoutjustbeforemissionimpossible.Noticethetopcomment?
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[] 2slowam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ithinkbrucejenner"madetheswitch"tocaitlinsohecanservehismanslaughterchargeinafemaleprison.
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[] venuris undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileIdon'tcareenoughtoactuallyresearchit,I'vealwaysthoughtthemoonlandingcould'vebeenfaked.I'mnotsurewhypeopleare
soadamanttheUSdiddoit.Peoplecheatduringracesallthetime.Ifwewerereallyatriskofbeinginsomesortofwar,it'snotweird
tothinkwewould'vefakedit.
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[] VictorVaughan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcourseitcouldhavebeenfaked.IcouldhavehadsexwithScarlettJohansson,MeganFoxandKateUptonearliertoday.
Technically,mostanythingispossible,butwhatdoestheevidencesay?
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[] starecontest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OsamaBinLadenisaliveandwell.
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[] wifesaysnoporn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NextepisodeofBillMaher'sshowwillprobablybefullofthese.Hehasanewbitwherehetalksaboutthingsheknowsaretrue,too
hightogoogleit.
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[] water_pipes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthem
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[] Tinfoilpain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thateveryoneispretendingtolikebeer.
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[] mohishunder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSmilitary,andUSarmsdealers,haveanobviousfinancialinterestinwarandhaveoftenfomentedunrestleadingtoconflict
aroundtheglobe.
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[] RageBooshSauce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Top40musicisgovernmentfundedtokeepthemassesdumbeddown.
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[] JustAHippy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thathereallyischeatingonher.
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[] Isotope_Gambit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKandMLKwereassasinatedbythemafiaand/oraffiliatedpersons.
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[] tmonger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Checkthisvideoout.IttotallychangedtheshewayIthinkaboutthisthing.Ialwaysheardaboutititassucha"hokey"sham.
SometimesIliketojustgiveinalittle.
http://youtu.be/HhyjC0iaM78
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[] reeceysfaeces undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatthisquestionhasalreadybeenaskedafewweeksago
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[] lt_dagg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PeoplebitchALOTaboutObama,I'mreallystartingtothinkheactuallyisareptilian
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ithinkScottsAntarcticSuicidetheoryisprobablytrue
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[] Sverige_Pirate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThewholeWTCtheory.Ithinkitmusthavebeenaninsidejerb.Imeancomeon,theUShadplansbeforetocommitterrorismonits
owncitizensjusttogowarwithCubabutwasdeniedbythePresident.KnowingBush,thisisaveryreasonableapproachandweall
knowthatthe"weaponsofmassdestruction"CasusBelliwasabigpileofbs.
PutstinfoilhatonwhileplayingXFilestheme
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[] champignonmaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Catsarereallyhomicidalmaniacs,hellbentonstalkinganddestroyingtheirowners.
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[] RedCanada undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MKULTRA.
I'msuremostpeoplealreadyknowitwasarealexperiment.
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[] srebrina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthem.
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[] pointer_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatweaponindustriesfundISIS,AQetctosustainperpetualwar
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[] loveroftrees24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLoveissomehowinvolvedinthedeathofKurtCobain.
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/r/noshitsherlock
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[] 42ultra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasjustthinkingthatrecentlywatchedadocumentaryaboutitonNetflix.
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ThattheU.S.InvadedIraqforoil.
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IthinktherereallyisawarinBaSingSe.
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Electronicmusicwasinventedandcarefullycraftedbyecstasydealerstomoveproduct.
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[] pcolapat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AustraliaisreallyconnectedtoAsia.TherestoftheworldorchestratedthehoaxsothatAustraliansdon'ttrytowalkoutoftheircountry
andinfecttherestoftheworldwiththeirinferiorDNA.
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[] 2point4ghzdinner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelmeltssteelbeams.
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[] 1775mike undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisiscommonknowledge...
commonthatsteelmeltsat2500degreesF.
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Itdoesn'tmatterwhatisusedtoheat/meltit...ifitgetsto2500degreesitwillmelt...
youcanusejetfuel,orwood,orcoal,orice...aslongasitcangetto2500degreesitwillmelt
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[] BruceJohnJennerLawso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notexactlyaconspiracytheory,buttheRoyalNavyusingtheRMSLusitaniawreckfordepthchargepracticeseemsunusualatthe
veryleast?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania#Alleged_bombardment.2Fdestruction_of_the_wreck
ThetheorythatthesinkingwasanintentionalsetupbytheBritishgovernmentseemsabitfarfetched,butmaybetheywantedto
destroysomeoftheevidencethatlargequantitiesofmunitionswerebeingcarried?
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[] surfkaboom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LadyGagaisJonBenetRamsey
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Notpossible,JonBenetwasaprettylittlekid.
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Areyouserious?
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[] MuseofRose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lolit'sahelladumbocconspiracy.Checkout@caulkthewagon'sTweet:
https://twitter.com/caulkthewagon/status/670037747671941120?s=09
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[] BlueMelonz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
illuminarti111
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[] SpetS15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
probablyallofthem
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[] TonySoprano420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SamGiancanaandSantoTrafficantetookoutJFK.
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[] PvtQuarterdeck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelreallydoesn'tmeltsteelandbuildingsdon'tcollapseinthewaytheydidunderanyconditionsexceptfordemolitions.
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Jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeamsbutitcanweakenthestructuralintegrity
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Noonedisagreeswiththat.Buildingssimplydonotcollapseintheirownfootprintatthosespeeds.
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Theonlyforceactingonthenwasgravitysotheyfelldownwhatdoyouthinksouldofhappened
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You'rejustplayingdumbwithme...
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NopeI'mjustdumb
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[] Gheston undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUnitedState'sgovernmentknowswhysomanypeoplehavedisappearedundermysteriouscircumstancesinournationalparks.
LookintoDavidPaulides'Missing411bookseries.Theparksclaimtonotkeeprecordsofmissingpersonsinsidethepark.David's
workleadsalogicalandrationalpersontoleantowardsconclusionsthatinvolvethesupernaturalandunknownwhichisveryscary.I've
evenreadthreadsinothersubredditswheresupposedSARofficersbackhisresearch.Thetruthisoftentimestrangerthanfictionand
Ineverruleouttheunbelievableorimpossible.
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[] 1775mike undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
howisit"mysterious"???
don'tknowthebooksyouaretalkingabout...andIunderstandthattheyhave"disappeared"...
butifonegoesforahikeintheruggedbackcountry,offtrailforinstance...isn'ttherenomystery?
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[] Starwarsjunkiee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBostonMarathonBombingwasallowedbythegovernmenttohappen,inordertodistractthepublicfromotherpopularcurrent
eventsatthetime.ThefightagainsthavingregulatedInternetwaslargelypopularatthetime,andIrememberifpracticallyvanished
afterthebombingoccurred.
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[] ExpatAmerican undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onasecondnote:bothAnimalPlanet&Discoverychannelhavebroadcastedlessandlessaboutanimals.AnimalPlanetssloganis
now"surprisinglyhuman"andDiscoveryrarelyhasthecontentthattheyusedtohave.Ibelieveitsthesteepdeclineinanimal
populations/wildlife.Iusedtolearnsomuchaboutanimalsfromtheseshowsasakidandnow(24)amsadlydisappointed.
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Thisissurprisinglyrealisticanddepressing
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[] beard_meat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.walmart.com/ip/UltimateSoldierXDStealthFighterJetMilitaryBuildingConstructionSet/46711542
UncleSamgetsacutofeverykindoftoylikethisthatgetssold,andthinkofthejobsthatgotcreated,puttingpenniesintothepockets
ofbigoil,steel,chemicals,theWaltonfamily,ofcourse,andcrazyfractionofonecentwillgointothepocketofthepersonstockingit
ontheshelf.Ifperhapstwiceasmuchasthatdid,thatemployeewouldn'thavetousefoodstampstopurchasefreerangeeggsgrown
byalovelyandharmlesscouplewhowoulddiebeforetheygotofightinawar,muchofwhichisspentpayingtaxesonagorgeous
smallplotoflandinTheDalles.
Whennextgenerationterroristkillingdeathmachineslooksomarketablycool,everybodywins.
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[] usmcawp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisthreadwascreatedbythegovernmenttogetafeelofwhoknowswhat.
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[] scrubs2009 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisreallythefirstonethatseriouslyfreakedmeouthttps://stopsyjonizmowi.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bilderberg.jpg
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[] hanaanmhd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IS
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[] beaver_buzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wehearsomuchaboutobesitybecausethefoodcompanieswantustotalkaboutitsowefocusonfoodmorecausingustoeatmore
foodthanwewouldifitwasn'tonourminds.
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[] og_m4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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ISISisacovertoperationrunbytheCIAandMossad,andfundedbytheSaudis.ItcountersShiaterrorism,helpsgarnerpublicopinion
infavorofwarfunding(whichstimulatestheeconomy)andrightwingvotes,providescheapoil,andensuresthatselfevangelized
JihadJacksarebagged,taggedandcontrolled.
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[] cantsaveitfromsprite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIAstartedthecrackcocaineepidemictodestroytheveryreallikelyhoodofrevolutionintheinnercity.
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[] tonkk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifsomethingisarationalideaandhasprobablelikelihoodofbeingtrue,itisnotaconspiracytheory
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[] BearsINCabins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
matrix
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[] Asst2TheRegionalMngr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IjustwatchedSoakedInBleachandnowIbelieveCourtneyLovehadsomethingtodowithKurtsmurder.
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Holyshit
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[] midnighthearts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AppleIncsucksdick
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[] mummingonyourcom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jfkshotfirst
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[] SpartanIord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithastoomuchdamnrangeforaquestrewarditem.
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[] donosquat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Historyiswritteninrealtimebythevictors,thoughtheyoftenrepresentthemselvesasthelosersorvictimsoftheconflict...Meaning
thatmodernwarfareandmassmediaoutletsareallapartofalargehumanexperimentonagrandscalewithavarietyofwellintended
goals,butoftenmisguidedeffortstoachievetheendresultdesired.Theendresultbeingcontrolovervariableswhichwouldleadto
predictabilityandbetterplanningthoughthisiscountertoindividualfreewillaswewereintendedtohave.
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Everthink,"whatiftheterroristsarethegoodguys?"Somewhereaboveyouinthisverycommentthread,someonesaidtheyhope
SugeKnightgetsrapedinprison.Ifwecanwishthatkindofevilonsomebodyforsomethingwethinktheydid...isitreallythathardto
imaginewhyterroristsareblowingshitup?DotheyperceiveWesternerslikethatdudeperceivesSugeKnight?
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[] NothingSacred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
O.J.'sson,Jason,diditandO.J.tooktherapforhimbecauseheandhislawyersknewthatthewrongpersonwasontrialandcould
createenoughreasonabledoubttogethimoff.IthinkthemhavingO.J.tryingontheglovesthatdidn'tfitwastheaceuptheirsleeve
knowingfullwellthatO.J.'shandswerefarlargerthanhisson's.
Jasonwasdiagnosedwithintermittentragedisorder(alsoknownasJekyllandHydesyndrome),wasknowntofrequentlystoptaking
hismedicationandhadalonghistoryofviolentoutbursts,insomecaseswithaknife.Thatpersonsoundsliketheyarefarmore
capableofmurderthanaformerprofessionalathleteandsuccessfulactorattheheightofhisfame.
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Dude..
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[] Rockyrambo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OJSimpson'ssonwastherealkillerandOJleteverybodythinkhedidittoprotecthischild.
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[] nc95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob.
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[] Back2BagDad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Companynamesareoncigarettebutts,becausepeoplealwayslitterthemandeveryoneelseseesit.
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[] arvotheaspie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LarryStylinson.
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[] boardgamejoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thefuckingJarJarBinksisaSithLordone.
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[] kirbyprower undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatTaiLopezisn'tactuallyrichandhejustrentsouthisLamborghiniandmansionintheHollywoodHills.
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[] spanish_bow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiswasdecadesbeforeIdon'tthinkitwasalreadyover.
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[] ooh_squirrel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
prollymostofthemarerootedintruth...butI'msuretheresalotofcounterinteloutthere..togetpeoplefromthinkingaboutthereal
shit..
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[] Natecor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereweremultipleassassinsfortheJFKheadshot,howevertheonethatgotthekillingshot,wastheoneinthestormdrain,lessthan
10feetaheadfromthecaronthebottomright.
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[] Bounkass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That9/11wasaninsidejob.
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[] PKMNtrainerKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CompanieslikeApple,Samsung,Sony,LG,andothermajorcompaniesarebuildingproductsonlydesignedtoworkafewyearsso
consumersareforcedtobuynewer,moreexpensivemodels
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[] my_screenname_sucks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadthesameSamsungGalaxyS2sinceitcameout.Otherthanbuyingnewbatterieswhentheoldonewentdeadit'sworked
perfectly.
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[] jjm315 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obviouslythereptiliansrunningourcountry...
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[] Trainer_Kevin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereislittletonooriginalityonReddit.Everythinghereiscomposedofrecycledcomments&questions.
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[] chicagotim1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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ThehijackedAirlineflightthatcrashedintoafieldinPennsylvaniaon9/11wasn'tbroughtdownbyanoble,patrioticgroupof
passengers.TheUSmilitarybroughtitdownbeforeithadachancetocrashintoitstarget.
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[] longhairedcountryboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowwhypeoplewanttobelievethisexceptitcoversuptherealtruth.
ThatplanewassupposetocrashintotheTHIRDbuildingthatcametumblingdownatWTC.Thepassengersreallydidbringthatplane
down.Thatistheonlytruthinthewholeaccountofwhathappened.
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[] MiltonWesty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NobodydrankanyflippinkoolaidinJonestown.ThiswasaCIAmindcontrolexperiment.the800followersweregunneddownaftera
Californiagovernortriedtoleavewithafewofthefollowers.theyweregunneddownontherunway!thiswasreportedliveandwell
documented.peoplefledintotheforest.ThenextdaywhenthepressshowedupinFrenchGuyanatoinvestigate,theyreportedthe
bodieswereriddledwithbullets.yetthenorthAmericanpressstatedtheReverendJimJonescommandinghiscultof800todrink
cyanidelacedkoolaid.
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[] chandlergaudet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'salongaudiorecordingoftheJonestownmassacreincident.
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[] MiaKhalifafcuk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhetherUFOsareactuallyaliencraftsornot,they'reextremelyinterestingtothinkabout.Nooneknowsexactlywhattheyare(hence
thename),buttheresureareplentyoftheories.
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
TheBlackKnightSatellite
JohnF.KennedyKilledByCIA
TheHologramPlan
MalaysiaAirlinesFlightMH370vs.UFO
America'sHiddenSpaceFleet
2012OlympicAlienInvasion
AlienJesus
NaziUFOsInAntarctica
GeneralMacArthurvs.Aliens
NASASentAstronautsToAnotherPlanet
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[] woizard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyLiveisactuallyadocudramaaboutwhattheworldisreallylike.Notgonnalie,andit'smorelikelythannotaresultofalloftheacid
Itook,I'veseensomeshitthat'smademefeellikethatit'snotsofarfetched
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[] BertJPDXBKLN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icalleditin1992,andIamstillstickingtothetheorythatMagicJohnsonneverhadHIV.Ifitmytheoryisevenremotelytrue,heisone
bravedudewhoimpactedmanypeople'sbehavior,regardlessifhenevercontractedthedisease.
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[] Hrsmith89 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ourrealityisreallyjustanotherperson'sdream.Shouldthatpersonwakeup,lifeasweknowitwouldceasetoexist.
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[] krautchanner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11.
Ievensawpicturesofmossadsettingupthechargesonse.It'sfuckingretardedtothinkthatabunchofmuslimslivingincavescould
hijackaplaneanddriveitintooneofthemostsecureairspacesintheworld,butnowayacabalofintelligenceagencies,oilfamilies
andfinancialbankerswithtiestopoliticianswithhundredbilliondollarbudgetcoulddothesame.
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[] booksandboys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsoundsridiculous,butmakessomesenseonceyouthinkaboutit.ItcouldbeentirelypossiblethatthecureforcancerorHIV/AIDS
existsbutthatit'sbeenwithheldbecauseofthehugeamountsofmoneybeingmadeand/oroverpopulationisbecominganissue.I
knowit'skindofrudetosaybevauseIthinkeveryoneknowssomeonewhohassufferedfromcancer,myselfincluded,butitcould
unfortunatelybetrue.
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[] lacinn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itis.
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[] booksandboys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Elaborate?
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It'squitelogicalandyoualreadyexplainedityourself:thereistonsandtonsandTONSofmoneymadeeachyearon
expensivedrugs/medsthataresupposedtohelpandcurepeople.Theydon'twork,andtheydon'tworkforareason.Ifyou
bringonedrugtothemarkettocureadiseasethatisdeadly,alltheothermedsbecomeobsolete.Youloseanincrediblybig
market.It'ssad,buttheyratherseecatchingthanpeoplealive.
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[] ChipAyten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TedCruzwearswomen'sunderwear.
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[] plagues138 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tinfoilprobablydoesstopalienmindreaders.
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[] veringer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheJFKassassinationwasanearlybloodlesscoupandLyndonJohnsonknewaboutitand/orwascomplicitintheplan.
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[] lclear84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlotofconspiracysurroundingtheCFBplayoffcommittee.LastyeardroppingTCUfrom#3#6afterwinningagameby52points
lettingOhioStatein,eventhoughOSUhadlosttoa75teamathomeby14andTCUhadlosttoa111Baylorteamontheroadby
only3points.OntopofthataFoxAnalystmadesomecommentsthisyearabouthowhethinkssometeamsareplacedhigherupif
theyhavebiggerfanbasesandwillgethigherratingsforthestations(OSU>BaylorandTCU).In1yearthey'vealreadyhadlike3
peoplequitoffthecommitteewhichisalmost1/4.Somethingisdefinitelyfishy.
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[] tehweave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anygamesjournalistprobablysighedinreliefofgamergatebeingsuchahugethinglastyear.Anyonewhocalledthemoutonhaving
theirreviewsbeingboughttheycouldjustsay"YOU'REBEINGSEXISTAGAINSTWOMEN"andgetawaywithit.
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[] coozies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwaskilledbecauseofhispositionagainsttheVietnamwar.
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[] Furiou519 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkthatcannedtunaisreallytuna.Ihonestlythinkitisdolphin.Ireallydislikeallfish,theflavorisdisgustingIammoreofa
mammaleater.ExceptcannedTunadelicious.Tunasteakorfillet,yuckcitytasteslikefishnotcannedtunathough.
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[] Elrikk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911andIsrael
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[] Inmate002 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Backandtotheleft
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[] BiGSmOkies07 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plutowasaccidentallyhitbyasecretsatellite.OnemadeinChina.Scientistsarecoveringitupbysayingit'snotaplanet.
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[] Personalityprototype undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IliketheonewhereRockafellerandStandardOilusedtheirmassivewealthtoputpowerbehindtheprohibitionmovementsomething
thatseemslikeitnevershouldhavehappenedinthefirstplacesothatfuelethanolproducerswouldgooutofbusiness.Prohibition
endedtheyearafterforddiscontinuedmakingenginesthatcouldrunonbothethanolandgasoline.
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[] darkguitarist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:nobodyknowswhataconspiracyis
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[] personon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIAassassinatedJFK
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[] Bubstaa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EarthgovernmentshavealreadyencounteredsentientAliens
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[] SoHungLo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Correctivelensesmakeyoureyesworsebutthisfactiscoveredupbytheeyecareindustrybecauseitmakesthembillionsofdollarsa
year
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[] RVBmaniac21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ALLOFTHEM0_0
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[] silverfox762 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatevangelicalmegachurchesarescamsrunbyconartistsmakingmillionsoffofscared,guiltridden,gulliblepeople,andprotected
bycomplicitelectedofficialswhocontinuetoallowsuchfraudinreturnforvotes(inspiteoftaxlawforbiddingchurchesfrompolitical
campaigning).
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Thatone'sdefinitelytrue,nodoubtaboutit.
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[] seano994 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisislessaconspiracytheoryandmoreaplaintruth.
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[] silverfox762 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IguessimthinkingmorefromthePOVofthepeoplebeingdupedwhoseethisasawild,unsubstantiatedconspiracytheory.
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[] fireforfear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
True.
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[] skynet2175 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
:)
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[] Shawng7777 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] NYCPakMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamaFatherwasaAmericanNamedFrankMarshall
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[] joelpyro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] joelpyro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoonain'treal
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[] ChadPUA2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSgovernmentallowedorcaused9/11tohappenandusedthefalseflagattackasameanstobringthecountryintowaragain.
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[] bond_covalent_bond undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allreligionsaremanmade.
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That'ssotrue.Butitdoes'tmeanthatGodisn'treal...Justreinforcestheideathatpeoplearefrigginmessedup.Andthatthey
constantlyconspireagainsteachotherfortheirownselfishbenefit.Youshouldreadthebook,BlueLikeJazz.Differentandbetterthan
themovie.
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[] nadarko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatIsraelandSouthAfricadevelopednuclearweaponstogetherandhadpossiblytestedaweaponintheIndianOcean.
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[] neonwaterfall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthatwastruthratherthanconspiracyatthispoint?
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[] nadarko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,fromwhatIread,thereisstillsomeinconsistenciesonwhathappenedduringthevelaincidentthatistheresultofabsent
information.Butifyouhadtobetonit,youwouldprobablybesafethatitwasSouthAfricaandIsrael.
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[] aproxia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kleenexmakesyousneeze.Haveyouseentheamountofparticlesitreleasesintotheair?
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[] opydoopy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BigbusinessinAmericausespoliticaltiestobenefitthemselvesandtheircorporateinterests.Theseektaxsheltersinforeigncountries
toavoidtaxes,theycommithumanrightsviolationsinunderdevelopedcountriestolowerlaborcost,andtheyusetheword"public
relations"insteadofpropaganda.
Whiledoingthistheyusethemediainwhichtheyhaveamonopolyovertoconvincepeoplewhoaren'ttheminoritywhoalreadyknow
thisthatthosewhodoknoware"insane,godhating,domesticterrorists"(toobadwedon'thatehomosexualsorminoritiesanymorethat
wasagreatmuse)
Theydothisbecauseofaselfconsumingsystemwheretherichareinvestingtheirmoney,whichoutweighsthelargermajorityof
Americanexcludingeachother,intoothercompanies.Thesecompaniesnowmustworkinordertomaximizeprofitsofshareholders.
Theseshareholdersinvestastokeeptheirmoneysafefromtheircompany'sshareholders.
Thereareofcoursethosewhodon'tfallintothecycleandjustwantevermoremoneyandpower.Theyquiteliterallyfundreligionand
ignorance(nottosayallreligionisbasedinignorance),sothattheycantwistpeople'sopinionsintomakingthemmoremoney.
Notsureifitistrue,thoughitseemsjustlikelyenough...
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Andthustheconspiracyremainshiddeninplainsightasnoonecouldeverreallybesuresuchathingisgoingon.Themoresure
someisthatsuchathingisgoingon,thecraziertheyseem,andtheeasiertheyaretosilence.
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[] aintitabitch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheEldersofZion
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[] BigIdeas1982 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StevieWonderisnotblind.(Theevidenceiscompelling,folks!)
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[] NorthKoreanDetergent undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBushgovernmentknewaboutthehighjackers,butdidnothingandallowed9/11tohappen.
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[] my_screenname_sucks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowifthat'saconspiracyasmuchasitwastheincompetenceoftheBushadministration.
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[] NorthKoreanDetergent undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyweren'tincompetent.Theyknewandtheydeliberatelydidn'tdoanythingtostopitsotheycouldjustifypassingthepatriotact
andgoingtowarwithIraq.
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[] CptNoDick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tbesurprisediftheChurchofScientologyblackmailscelebritiestoendorsethem.TomCruiseandJohnTravoltamaybecrazy
buttheyaren'tthatstupid.
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Auditingsessionsarerecorded.Betonit.Youare100%correct.
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[] ioncehadsexinapool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthateveryonewhohasanonlinepresencehasa"portfolio"andtheiractivityisanalyzedusingalgorithms,tosetvaluesfor
likelihoodtbuycertainproducts.WhileIknowthatalotofaddsarebasedonsearchhistoryassignstoyouripIbelieve?WhatIthinkis
different.HowcouldFacebookaffordwhatwasit,$20billionforwhat'sapp?
Ithinkthatmymicrophoneisalwaysononmyphone,andwhenIsawcertainkeywords,italertsandadds"points"tomyportfolioto
keeptrackofthingsI'mlikelytobuy.
Forexample,thiscouldbeacoincidence,butwhenithappeneditscaredtheshitoutofme.
Ihadn'tlookedupanyofthisonline,norhaveItalkedaboutitupuntilthispoint.NordoIgetspamfollowsonTwitteranymore.
Iwastalkingtomybrother,hewasatmyhouse.Myphonewasinmypocket.IwastellinghimhowIwanttojoinagymsothatIcanlift
weightsandgetinshapebecauseIknowthatit'sgoodforyouandstuff.
ONEMINUTELATERIgetanotificationonmyphone.Ilookatitandit'sTwitter.Itsaysthat"lift&gymfitnesshasfollowedyou!"
ThisisnotconfirmationbiasbecauseINEVERgetrandomfollows.Andwhataretheoddsthatitwasacoincidence?Inevertalked
aboutthatbeforethat.AndIsaidwhatIwouldbelievetobe2importantkeywords.
Itrulybelievethere'ssomethingelsegoingonthatwedon'tknowabout
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[] _Booker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MeandmybrowereplayingGTAandtalkingaboutdoingsomecheatcodesandwhatnot.HepullsouthisphonetypesGTAinto
googleandimmediatelyitoffersthesuggestionforautocompletewithVcheatcodes
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[] randomstudman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Facebookisoneofthemostinvasiveappsyoucanpossiblyputonyourphone.Withanyappyougetlookatthepermissionsitneedsif
itsaysaccesstoyourphonebookcontactsotherappsoryourtextmessagesdon'tdownloadthatapp.Therearealternativeappsto
accessyourFacebookaccountthatarenotinvasiveatall.Secondlywhenyouusealogindon'tuseFacebooktologintoanything.
FacebookissharingallyourprofileinfotowhomeverwantsyoutologintoTheirservice.Alwaysuseanemailtologintothings.
AnothermistakepeoplemakeisputtingtruthfulanswerstothepersonalinformationFacebookuses.Ifyouputyourbirthdayonyour
Facebookpage.ThenIsendyouafriendrequestwithafakeprofileofahotblondethatjustmovedtotown.Ihaveyourbirthdayifyour
friendswithyourmom.Icangetyourmomtoacceptafriendrequest.InowhavealltheinformationIneedtogetaround90percentof
securityquestionsatyourbank.AllIhavetodoisalittlesocialengineeringtogetyourss#andbambrandnewidentityforme.
Meanwhileyourstuckwiththebill.AlsoeverytimeFacebookupdatesit'sprivacypolicyusuallyabout3timesayearitundoesallthe
securitysettingsyouputin.Sonowyouhaveawideopenprofile.Andunlessyouloginthedayofthechangehavenoideathatyour
profilesnolongerlockeddown.AsimplesolutiontothisisnotgivingFacebookthecorrectinformationtobeginwith.AlsoIuseprivacy
badgerunlockoriginandhttpseverywhereinChrome.Goodhabitsplusgoodextensionswillkeepyouprettydamnedsecure.Itwill
alsokeepyoufromgettingmalwareandviruses.Mostmalwareandvirusescomefromadds.
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IreadsomewherethattheydohaveaccesstoyourmobilewhenconnectedtoFacebook.Theysearchyourpictures,activateyourmic,
andcanevenaccessyourcameratoseehowyoureacttothingsonthesite,suchasadvertising,trends,andhottopics.Scaryasfuck.
Toomuchforme.IRedditnow,andthatisitforsocialmedia.Somethingabouttheguiseofanonimitykeepsmehere.
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FacebookCommunicator,theapp,doesthat.Facebookproperonlyhaswhateveryourbrowserallowsittohave.Buttheapp
recordswhateverithearswheneveryoutypeinacomment.
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Thanksforconfirmation!Stillcan'tfindthatarticleagain...?
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I'llbeniceandavoida"letmeGooglethatforyou"link,butIsearchedfor"facebookapprecordsaudio":
http://www.geek.com/mobile/facebookappnowlistensandrecordsaudiowhenyoupostupdatesfromyourphone
1595873/
AlsoInstagramapparentlylistenstoyouaswellandsharestheinformationwithFacebook:
http://www.webpronews.com/facebooklistens201502/
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:)Willread.Thx
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canconfirm
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Oh,weknow.Weallknowdeepdownthetruthofwhatyousay.Itisjustfarmoreconvenientandcomfortabletojustpretendlikeitisn't
happening...Ortocontendthatsuchathingisbeneficialandinevitable.
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[] JinxsLover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifeelmorecomfortablebeingtheonlycollegekidwithoutasmartphonenow
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[] RedditModsSuckDonkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ChelseaClintonisthechildofHillaryandWebbHubbell.WebbwasHillary'spartnerintheRoseLawFirm.Chelsealooksjustlike
WebbHubbellandnothinglikeBillClinton.
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[] G0ldengoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Accordingtosomestonerattonight'sparty,theearthisflatandrocketsstop76milesup.
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Lol...Mystonertheoryisthatgravitycomesfromspaceandisapushingforceonlyinhibitedbymassiveobjects...
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[] TommyFX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NeverbelievedthatLeeHarveyOswaldwasalonegunmen.GuywasapatsyandtherewasamuchwiderconspiracythatkilledJFK.
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[] jarmandesign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] ImmaRatard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovearrangedforthedeathofKurtCobain.
TomGrant,thePIshehiredto"find"Kurt,fromday1wassuspiciousofher,andrecordedalloftheconversationsandinteractions.He
hashadnotarnishesonhisrecordandisamuchmorecrediblesourcethananyjunkietestifyingforLove.
TheevidenceandcrimescenewasgrosslymishandledbytheSeattleforensicunit,goingsofarastonotevenprocessthesceneand
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toxicologyuntilafterhewascremated.
Therearemanymorefacetstothisargument,andifyou'dliketolearnmore,watchthe2015documentary"SoakedinBleach".
Excellentwatch,andcrediblesources
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I'minthemiddleofwatchingthisnow.ThereisDEFINITELYalotofcircumstantialevidencethatmakesherlookreallybad!
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[] kyuubi1351 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11./s
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[] franticaerobics undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFK'sassassinationwasplannedbysomebodyelsealongwithLeeHarveyOswald.AnotheronethatisprobablytrueisCourtneyLove
hiringsomebodytokillKurtCobain.There'ssomuchevidenceandyoucan'tdismissitasatheoryuntilyoulookintoit.
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[] milkmoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jabbaiskyloren
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[] FMecury undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatsappissellingitcontactslistofftocompanies
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[] CourseCorrections undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Organharvestinginchinaoffalungong.
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[] ImYourHuckleberry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheInstitute.
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[] SteddiEddie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:Fruitynutcakes.
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[] SmoSays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ourvotesdon'tcountatallwhenitcomestopresidentialelections.Ourpresidentisalreadydecidedaheadoftime.
1. Ifyoulookatthehistoryofcandidates,onecandidateasmostlysupportingheadlinesandtheotherisalmostalwaysbeingmade
funoforpanned.
2. Ihavebeenabletopredictwhowillwin,evenbeforeIstartedtopayattentiontopoliticsandvote.I'mnotsomesortofsavant
withherthumbtothepulseoftheAmericanpeople.Rather,Ijustthink,'ifIwaswritingthisinabook,whowouldbetheobvious
winner?'BtwIpredictthepresidencywillbebetweentrump(r)andClinton(d)(sorryBernie).Clintonwillwin.
3. Despitepromises,nothingreallyeverchanges.Thestatusquostaysthesame
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[] Incruso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereareonlylike50askredditquestions,consantlyrerolled
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[] javadave70 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamabeingborninKenya.
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[] joshb425 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ScullyWASindeedabductedbyaliensandthegovernmentislyingtousaboutit.
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[] newbuttonacc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneonthefrontpage.It'stheonlyexplanationthatmakesanysense.
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[] echnaba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GovernmentishidingAliencontact.
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[] TerraPlays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:Peopletalkingaboutwhichconspiracytheythinkistrue.
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[] fixradio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheonewhereGeorgeSorosissendingMuslim"refugees"aroundtheworldtostageapoliticalinvasionofWesternCountries.
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[] pinotpie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarisaSithLord
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[] BanditMcDougal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weareneartheendofnationstatesinfavorofthecorporationwars...
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[] Alakazing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyaccountonredditisabotexceptyou.
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[] thrasher6143 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatnoonewilleveruseaserioustagwithconspiracytheorythread.Youknowtodiscredit.
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[] TacomasLowlife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
........steelbeams.
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[] redditfromnowhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IWASPHONE.
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[] greeneyed_raven undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youbastard!
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[] Yentz4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BrunoreallyisIcefrog.
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[] saevarito undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob.
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[] Scottarh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThePlannedParenthoodattackswereallowedbythegovernmenttoallowthedemocratpartytobeseenpositively
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[] ShadonxFC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasdonebysomeoneorsomeentityotherthan"Muslimjihadists"
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[] Onedropofchaos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
stonehengewasbuiltinthe1950s
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[] nananaRatman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarisaSithLord.Theevidenceisallthere
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[] SnallTrippin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneoftheJFKonesprobably.
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[] Ilikespacestuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatObamaissecretlyworkingfortheGovernment.
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[] Maksalom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatBerenstainbearsusedtobewrittenBerenstein...Idon'tknowhowitchanged,butIrememberitbeingBerenstein.
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[] momzill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecauseIagreedwithyou100%,Iwentandlookedthroughmyson'schildhoodbooks.Ifoundonepublicationdate1983.Tomy
dismay,itisspelledBerenstain.
Icouldhavesworn...
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[] Statistical_Insanity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sawholelotoftalkaboutthatoverin/r/MandelaEffect.Beware,though,astherearequiteafewpeopletherewholiterallythink
thatthey'reoneoftheprivilegedfewcapableofseeingthechangesandripplesoftimeandspaceinaction.
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[] silentflight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iwouldbetmyparentshavesomeofthesebooksstashedawaysomewhere,theydatebacktothe80s.ialwaysthoughtitwas
berensteintoo,strange.
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[] momzill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwentthroughmyson'schildhoodbooksandfoundonefrom1983becauseIthoughtitwasBerensteinalso.Itwasn'tinthat
publicationyearitwasBerenstain.:o
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[] Curly_Toenail undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatJarJarBinkswasactuallythebadguyinthePrequels.
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[] BilboDankins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Joshisprincess??!!!!
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[] zuckokoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasininsidejob,Bush.
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Becausetheplanningof9/11startedduringtheClintoneraandClintonhadachancetokill/captureUBLin1996.Thetheoryshouldbe
"9/11wasaninsidejob,Clinton".
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[] bobafe6604 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OsamaBinLadenwaseitherdeadwaybeforetheysaidhewasorisn'tdeadatall
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[] antonio106 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Basedonmyredditfrontpage,McDonald'sMonopolygamewasfixed.
Huh.Mymomwasright!
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[] bobafe6604 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwasshotfromthefront,meaningtherehadtobeanothergunman
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[] Bam899 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] nMaibO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
inreality,wearemoreadvancedtechnologicallythanwethinkweare.Certainpeoplejustaren'tinterestedinsharing.They'reprobably
cloningthemselvesaswespeak.
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[] dehTiger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldn'tbetoosurprisingifquantumcomputershavebeencreatedbytheCIA(orothercountries'equivalents)andhavebeenableto
cracktopsecretencodedinformation.Ifso,thisinformationcouldpotentiallybeusedasblackmail...
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YeahIhavereadaboutsomethinglikethat,asupercomputerthatcanbreaksha256encryptions.Apparentlytheydon'texist,but
justimagineiftheydo,theentirebitcoinbusinessrunsonsha256andwhoeverbreaksthatcaneasilytakethewholethingdownor
useitfortheirownbenefits.
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[] thepioneeringlemming undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvvYib1Xg
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[] SpezwubsSpunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
theholocaustbeingalie.Wellnotallofit,butvastlyblownoutofproportion,imguessingalotmoreofjustdiseaseandstarvation,and
lessovensandlampshades.
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[] kidhumbeats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DreamworksprobablyhadElliottSmithmurderedbecausehewasworthmoretothemalivethandead.
Thatgoesforalotofmusiciandeaths,thepeoplewhoreceivetheroyaltycheckshaveavestedinterestintheirdeathoncetheydecide
tostopbeingproductive.
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[] DodgerDoan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Benghaziinitiallybeingdownplayedasastudentprotestgonewrongeventhoughthereisevidenceshowingthatourgovernmentknew
itwasaterroristattackforthepurposeofavoidingbadpressrightbeforeanelection.PeopleonRedditmightbequicktocallsomeone
aconspiracywackjobforthatcommentbutthereareabsolutelysomethingsthatdon'taddupaboutourfirstresponsetothatevent.
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[] Loraxxxtreeek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoonisflat.
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[] zyzzogeton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheTPPagreementismakingmethinkmaybethereissomethingtothisIlluminatithing.
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[] vegeta10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MafiaDIDkillJFKandtheCIAandFBIDIDcoveritupbecauseoftensionswiththeCubanmissilecrisis,thecoldwar,andtheplotto
assassinateCastro.Theyjustcameoutaboutitthisyear.Oswaldwasn'ttheonlyoneinvolved.
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[] doctor__spaceman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source?Iftheyreallydidcomecleanthat'dbeafascinatingread
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[] fauxscot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myjobisgod'srevengeonmeforbeinganatheist.I'vealwaysthoughtandbelievedthis.
Hemaybeimaginary,buthe'sanasshole.
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[] Romero1993 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
everyoneneedsavillain.
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[] pipnewman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aselectfewcontrolthepriceofoilforgreedaloneandcontroltheeconomy.Oil/gaspricesdictateallspendandprices(shipping,
travel,etc).Theoilpricesaren'tmarketprice...itscontrolled.
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[] invisiblestripeyguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
100%correct,OPECandsimilarorganisationshaveinfluencedtheoilpricethroughproductiontargetssincethe1960s.Shalehas
beenagamechangerthough.
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[] rberg89 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfueldoesn'tmeltsteelbeams.
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[] another_norman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11incidentneededsomehelpfromthegovernmentofUSA..forittohappen.
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[] tomOhorke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism
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Andofcourse,thecurrentunspeakable.Thewaytheyblewthosetowersmanwhatashowtheyputon.
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Orshallibemoredirect.Thewayyoublewyourtowersmanwhatashowyouputon.Upvotethat.
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[] t3hcollective undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obviouslythatsandyhookneveractuallyhappened.Itwasatotallyfabricatedsituation,fakeschool,actorsoutside,andnobodyreally
gothurt.Justablatantgungrabattemptbyobama.
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[] crybannanna undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'regross.
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Grossorgrosslymisunderstood?Thereareseveralinconsistenciesineyewitnessaccountsfromthatday.Nottomentionthatthere
wasanofficialFEMAdrillgoingonthatdayinverycloseproximitytotheschool.Ratherthanseeingthe'truther'asgrossfor
denyingatragedy,maybeyoucouldseethemassomeonewhowantsdesperatelytoliveinacontrolledversusanuncontrolled
environmentandthattheideaofinnocentchildrenbeingmurderedhasleadthemtofindanyothervalidexplanationthantheofficial
onegiven...?Personally,themoreIknow,thelessIseemtounderstand.
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Ifindthisparticularconspiracytheorygross.Igettheneedtocreateorderinachaoticworld,buttherearelimits.
Idonotgetthecompulsiontocallgrievingparentsliars.We'retalkingaboutrealpeoplesufferinganunimaginabletragedy,
madealltheworsebyinternethoaxmongerscallingtheirdeadchildrenfake.It'sghoulish.
Imagineforamomentthatyouloseyourchildtosomegunman.Yourfuturehasbeenstolen,andthepersonyoulovemostin
theworldhasbeenviolentlymurdered.Thensomeinternetfueledcreepstrytotellyouthatyourentirelifeisjustalie.That
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yourgriefisn'treal.Thatyourchildneverexisted.It'sunspeakablydisgusting.Thefactthattheyneedtoconcoctsome
fantasybecausetheycan'thandlethechaoticnatureofyourchild'smurderisn'taviableexcuse.It'spatheticanditsfucking
gross.
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Whatconvincesyouthatthesegrievingparentsaren'tactors?Iamnotsayingtheyare,pleasedon'tmisunderatandme.
Ijusthappentoknowthattheseemotionsattachedtothestrongesthumanbondspossibleoftencloudourjudgementof
thefacts.
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Inthisparticularinstanceitonlyrequiressomebasiccommonsensetofigureouthowpreposterousthe
conspiracytheoryis.
Let'ssayforamomentthatitisallfake.ThatwouldrequirethatanentireU.S.townbestaffedwithactors.Thata
schoolbeentirelyfabricated.Thattheseparticular"actors"havenofriendsorrelatives(lesttheybeeasilyproven
frauds).Andthepurposeofthiselaboratehoaxis....Nothing.I'vehearditwasforgunlaws,whichneverpass,so
thatcan'tbeit.Youcan'tpossiblybelievethatanorganizationcapableandwillingtoorchestratethiselaborate
hoaxwouldn'tbeabletogetasinglelawpassed.
Justforamoment,considerthelogisticsofwhatisbeingsuggested.Forgettingthatitultimatelyhadnoresults
thatwecanpinpoint,doyouhaveanyconceptofhowcostlyordifficultthiswouldbetoactuallyorchestrate?
Then,totrustthiselaborateplanconceivedwithnopurposeyouneedtoputyourfulltrustinunheardofactors.
Actorswhoneedtoliveouttheirentirelivesasotherpeoplethatdidn'texist.Atanypoint,asingleoneofthese
hundredsof"actors"cancompletelygiveawaythewholeplot.Infact,someoftheactorsneedtopretendtobe
deadsotheyneedtoliveouttherestoftheirlivesinseclusion.ItisperhapsthemostasininethingIhaveever
heard...Andagain,hasnodemonstrablepurpose.Andabsolutelynoevidence,unlessyoucountblurryYouTube
videoswhichshownothing.
Nowimagineforamomentitisn'tfake.Allthatwouldmeanisthatalunaticsdecidedtoshootabunchofpeople.
Thathappenseveryday,sotheleapoffaithrequiredisnill.
Nowyoumeasurethetwopossibilitiesagainsteachotheranditdoesn'ttakearocketscientisttofigureoutwhich
oneismorelikely.
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Iseeyouhaven'tbotheredtolookintothematter.Becauseliklihoodisexactlywhatsomeonehidesbehind
whentheymakeanargumentbasedonnoevidence.HereisasimpleexampleofhowIcansmashthe
liklihood/Okram'sRazorargumentrightoutthewindow...Whatistheliklihoodthatyourparentschoseeach
otherandthattheexactinseminationofyourmotherbyyourfatherresultedintheyouweseetoday?None
oftheoutcomesofanyeventarelikely...Untiltheyhappen.
Secondly,giventhatitisstandardoperatingprocedureforalloperationstoinformthe'actors'basedona
needtoknowbasis,thatall'actors'signnondisclosueagreementsinsuchevents,andthatnumerous
conspiraciesinvolvingalargenumberof'actors'havebeenuncoveredinthepast,itishighlylikelythat
thesesetsofcircumstanceswouldoccuragain.
Thirdly,iftherewasaplanneddrillnearby,thenallofthelogisticswerealreadyinplacetostagetheentire
event,includingpictures,trainedpersonellandcrisisactors.
Fourth,thereasonsgivenforwhyaconspiracyofthismagnitudewouldbecarriedout,whilepossiblyvalid,
donotindicateonewayortheotherastotheeventactuallyoccurring.Itcouldverywellbethatitwas
meanttoobfuscateinternationaldealingsthatneitherofuswereawareofatthetime.Thereasonscould
havebeenandlikelyweremultitudinous.
Fifth,plentyofpeoplehavealreadyputintheresearchlegwork.,
[http://sleepbutawhile.com/2014/01/12/inconvenienttruth60thesandyhookpolicereport/](Hereyougo.)
ButIhavemyinklingsthatyoualreadyknewthis.Iloveandsupportallpeople,regardleasofwhichtragedy
hasbefallentheirlife,beitactualatrocity,orunchosencircumstance.AndIdomybesttomakeno
judgments,butitisdifficulttobelievethattherearenoconspiraciesatall.Howunlikelywouldthatbe?
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Becauselikelihoodisexactlywhatsomeonehidesbehindwhentheymakeanargumentbasedon
noevidence.Itisknowntobedifficulttoproveanegative
Iaskedyoutotaketwoscenariosandattempttousecommonsensetodecidewhichmakesmore
sense.Iwasn'taskingforprobabilities.You'reobviouslyunableorunwillingtousecommonsense
here,andinsteadwanttokeepusingyourinternet"research"whichisfromnoncrediblesources.
Whydon'tyoudoyourownlegworkandactuallygoresearchthething.Youcan'tjustrelyonGoogle.
Gotothetown...Meetsomeofthe"actors"....Maybegofindthepublicrecordsforthesepeople
yourself.Yourealizethatyoucanfindwebsitesdedicatedtolizardpeople,Bigfoot,aliens,etc...All
offering"evidence"andallcompletebullshit.
Youcan'ttrusteverythingyoureadonline.IfyouinsistondoingsoI'dliketointroduceyoutoa
Nigerianprincewithaninterestingofferforyou.
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[] Jmacz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IrememberseeingsomethingaboutpicturesbeinguploadedontotheWhiteHousewebsiteaftertheConnecticutSchoolshootingsof
twoofthekidswhoweresupposedtobedeadwiththeirfamilyandPresidentObama,therewere34differentpictures.Suretheycould
ofbeenshoppedbuttheylookedlegit,I'mnotevensurehowsomeonecouldshoptworandomkidswhowemaybegot23picturesof
fromthemedia.MaybeI'mjustthatnaivebutthatalwaysreallycreepedmeout.
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Oritcouldbedifferentkidsthatlooksimilar.
By"itcouldbe"Imeanthatwhatitalmostcertainlyis.
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[] Tucos_cousin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Splashedjetfueldoesn'tmeltsteelbeams.(shrugs)
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[] Arghun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheHolocaustisadeliberatelieperpetratedandcontinuedtoensureapermanentalliancebetweentheJewishpeoplesandtheAllied
Nations.Aswiftandheavysentenceofjailtimeisgiventoanydissenterswhoquestionthebiglie.
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[] Hollywoodbnd86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wowyou'reretarded.
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[] Speedy26xc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheDenverInternationalAirportinColoradoisthesiteoftheNewWorldOrder.
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[] winecountsasdinner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ALIENS.
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[] milehibroncoguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"ThePatriarchy"isactuallyabunchofevilwomen
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that'snotaconspiracy,thepatriarchyliterallydoesn'texist.
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[] milehibroncoguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhateverHillary
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Readagain,Hillaryisaragingfeminist,he'dsayPatriarchyisasrealashercriminalactivities.
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[] migz516 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ahmedclockguywasahoax.
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[] Metasapien_Solo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBigPharmaconspiracy.Imetafriendayearagowhoworkedasalobbyistforjustshortofadecade,andIlearnedSOmuch
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aboutgovernmentcorruption.Sufficetosay,I'mvotingforBernieSandersafterthoseconversations...
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[] Ascality undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sneopleareeverywhere.
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YoumeanReptilians,right?
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No,anddon'tlettheSneoplePropogandaMachinefoolyou.Thedistinctionisquiteclear.Here'saninformativegraphicyoumay
finduseful.WhileitdiscussesthedifferencebetweenSneople(snakepeople)andSnaple(snailpeople),theidea'sthesame.You
mustbecarefultomakethedistinction,oryou'llneverknowwhattolookfor!
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I'llstickwithcallingthemReptilians.Lol
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Noneofthatmattersnow,weonlyhavetofeartheGreatDiamondAuthority.It'severywhere!
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[] BeefHands undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MichaelJacksonwaschemicallycastrated.
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[] TNTgoeskaboom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EllenPaowasascapegoatforReddittomakehugechanges.
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[] cornbadger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IliketheoneaboutChewbaccabeingObama'scrackaddictedalienlovechild.ConceivedinspacewhilethePresidentwasholding
secretnegotiationswiththeNaziEskimosonboardtheirlunarspacestation.
Apparentlytherumoris,thattheEskimoswhereactuallyWookiesthewholetime.Andwherejusttryingtotrickusintosellingthem
illegalhaircareproducts.
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[] Madsman77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtheoryIfirstcameacrossinasouthparkepisode.Soyoucanexpect,it'sinterresting.
All9/11conspiracytheoriesareactuallymadeupbythegovernmenttomakeitlookliketheyhavesomehigherpoweroverus.
That'srightconspiracyception.
Iliketothinkthisisatleastsomewhattrue,withallofthehundredsofweirdthingssurroundingthewholething.
Youcouldprobablyrelatethesameideatootherconspiracytheories,likeArea51forinstance.Maybetheydeliberatelymakeitlook
weirdtofoolusintothinkingtheyarehidingthings.
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Area51mightbetofoolothercountriesintothinkingwehavesomeadvancedalientechnology.Makethemmorenervousaboutour
levelofadvancement,andmakethembelievetheyareillequippedtoreverseengineerourstuff.
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Yeah,Ithinkit'smainlyaimedatthegeneralpopulationoftheUSandothercountriesgeneralpopulations.
Iwonderifmanyleadershavedoubtsaboutthatplacetoo.
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Theholocaustneverhappened
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MartinLutherKingandMalcomXassassinationswereorchestratedbythegovernment.
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Thatthisthreadwaspostedmonthsagowiththeexactsameanswers.
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AppleownsMicrosoftGoogleFacebook
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GeorgeBushdid9/11
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[] Shelltonius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bigcitiespurposelyhavebadtrafficinordertohelpbusiness.Iftrafficissoshittythatleavinganhourlatergetsyouhomeahalfhour
laterthanifyouleftearlier,youaremorelikelytohangoutanddostuffintownandthenleaveaftertrafficdiesdown.Thisinturn
createsmoretaxdollarsusablebythecity.Isimilarideaisthatasacountryyouwanttobeindebttoothercountries.Doingsokeeps
yousafebecauseyoucan'tcollectmoneyfromanonexistentcountry.Wellinthiscaseyoucan'tgetmoneyfromsomeonethatleaves
yourcity.
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September11th.Noplaneeverhitthepentagon.Thetwintowerswerebroughtdownbyexplosives
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[] veetack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverseethisinanyoftheseposts,andI'mwaylate,soit'llgetburied,butheregoes:
PrincessDianadidnotdieinanaccidentinParis.Thewholethingwasstagedtoremoveherfromthepubliceyehavingbeena
memberoftheroyalfamilyandallowingherandDodiAlFayedtolivetheirlivesinseclusion.Ihavenoevidencetosupportthis,butI've
thoughtiteversinceithappened.
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[] f3lip3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcannotmeltsteelbeams
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True'rwordshaven'tbeenspoken.
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Canadaisn'treal.It'sjustnorthNorthAmerica.
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TheNSAfrequentlypostsquestionsto/r/AskReddittomonitoryourbeliefs.Theyalsofrequentlyemployshillstodownvote,disclaim,
andrebutconspiracytheoriesthathavemeritwhilesometimesaddingtocredibletheoriestomaketheminsane.Attimeswhenthese
optionsdonotwork,theyareusedasthebasisofHollywoodmoviesasanefforttodiscreditthestoryandconfusethegeneralpublic.
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TheNSAlol?Yougotyourshadoworganizationsmixedup....
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[] MannysBeard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneofmyhousemateshasbeenreadingupalotabouttheJFKassassination.Allthestuffhesays,whichincludesmultipleeyewitness
accountsandpeoplewhowereinvolvedallpointtoJFKbeingkilledbytheCIAandFBI,withLeeHarveyOswaldbeingthescapegoat.
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911,building7.
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CourtneykilledKurt.::90skidsigh::
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Jetfuel...?
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[] Bobbers8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noonetrulyenjoysalcoholorpartyculturetheystayhookedbasedonfalseexpectations,hopesandsocialstandardsimplantedby
alcoholcompanies(andotherbeneficiaries)viamedia.
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BinLadenwasaprisonerofthePakistanimilitaryandhisdeathwasessentiallyanelaborateexecution.Regardlessofthereasons
behindit,itseemsreallyunlikelythathewould"hideout"intheimmediatevicinityofPakistansmilitaryacademy(unlesshehada
cleverhobbitgivinghimadvice).Andasfortheraid,thereisnowaytheyweretakinghimalive,itisextremelydoubtfulthathe
(personally)putupanyresistanceandthereareaccountswhichbackthisup.Thereisanarticlewhichgoesthroughtheactual
evidenceanddetails,butitwouldappearthatitwasalljustabitoftheater.Funfact:youaremispronouncingthetownwherehewas
killed,Abbottabad.ThetownwasfoundedbytheEnglishwhentheycontrolledtheregionandwasnamedafteranEnglishmannamed
Abbott.ItispronouncedasyouwouldpronouncetheEnglishnameAbbott.
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[] Roadwarriordude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatwholeChristopherDornermanhuntabout2yearsago.Thatwasreallyweirdthewaythatwholethingwentdown.Supposedlyhe
diditbecausesomecorruptionintheLAPD.SupposedlyhewroteapostonFacebookwherehedeclaredwarontheUSpolice,and
that"post"soundedfakeandfishyasfuck.Thenafterheallegedlykilledhisfirstpoliceofficertheyissuedakillonsiteorder(somuch
forthejusticesystemright?).IntheprocesspoliceshotattruckssimilartoDorners,injuringpassengers/driversineveryinstance.That
shitplayedoutexactlylikeamoviecoverupwould.
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[] Ex268018 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ALLOFTHEM
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[] Zulu321 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theappliancebusinessissufferinginsales,partlytheeconomybutmanyconsumersfeltburnedbyveryshortlivedpurchases.Older
Americanbuiltproductsgenerallyhad1yearwarrantiesbutofteneasilylastedadecade.Outsourcingstartedaboutthesametime
engineerswentdigitalbutpoorlydesignedhardware(yetexpensivetoreplace)didnotadequatelyallowforheat,moisture,&vibration
issuescausinghighfailratesevenfires.SeenfartoomanyGE,Maytags,etctrashedforthis.Sadly,appliancesarenotrocketscience
incomplexity.Astandardizedcontrolmodulecouldbespecedanddesignedthatwouldworkon90+%,butthatwouldbetooconsumer
friendlyandsensible.
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Ihada20yearolddryerthatworksfine(soldittoafriendwhenImoved).Mygrandmothergaveittome,sheevenkeptthemanual
andpenciledinthepurchasedate.Onbiglettersonthemanual'scoveritsays"pleasekeepmanualtogivetothenextowner."that
wouldNEVERhappennow."They"don'twantyoutobuyused,theywantyoutofinancenew.
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[] Lauren_Guacamole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisamilitarybunkerbuiltunderneaththeDenverInternationalAirport.Theyhadaperfectlyfunctionalairport,madeanewone,
spentwaymoremoneythanexpected,andtherearerumorsfromvariousemployeesaboutalargeamountofinaccessiblebasement
levelfloorslistedinthenonpublicelevators.Themuralsandacoupleofotherartpiecesintheairportappeartobereferencestosome
sortofnuclearapocalypse.
Themurals+bonussketchystuff:http://m.imgur.com/gallery/FUZFO
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thelayoutissketchtoo!andi'mnottalkingabouttheswastikafloorplanimeanigotoffthetram,wentupthestairstolevelband
endedupatthetramagain.wentupthestairsagainandwasonlevelb.icouldn'tholdmyselfbackfromsaying"whatthefuckjust
happened?"outloud.
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[] Sweed171 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatincognitobrowsingisusedtofilteroutinternettrafficbyeavesdroppingagenciestofindthepeoplewhoaretryingtohidetheir
tracks.Givingthemlessdatatosiftthrough.
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Umm,incognitomodedoesnotdoanythingtomakeyourbrowsinglesstrackable.Ifyou'reusingGoogleChrome,yourwebhistoryis
storedinthecloud,wheregovernmentsdon'tneedawarranttosearch.
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[] Sweed171 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butusingtheincognitomodetocategorizethe"shady"contentsurelymusthelp.Ratherthanjustsearchingitasawhole.
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StillnotconvincedsincetheuseragentstringforChromeinIncognitomodeandregularmodearethesame.
Youcanalsoseetherequestheadersinthedevelopertools,andthey'rethesameforincognitovs.regularmode.
CouldtherebeasecretthingthatsnitchesonyoutothegovernmentinGoogleChromewhenyouareinincognito?Sure,but
theusefulnessofincognitomodewouldmuddythedata.Everywebdeveloperwouldbeona"watchlist"andeverything
wouldhavetobestrippedfromChromium(theopensourceversionofChrome).Also,therearepeoplethatmonitortheirown
routerstoseeexactlywhatisgettingsenttothirdparties,andsotheconspiracywouldhavetoincludehardwaremakersas
wellasMozilla(theyhaveaPrivateMode).
Also,siftingthroughgigabytesofdataisnotahardproblemtosolve,andifyouhavesomethinglikemachinelearningtoalert
anauthorityofspecificbehaviors,moredataisbetterthanless.
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[] michaeljamesg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IdidthePaleodietfortwoweeks.AndIfoundoutthatIdidn'tlosemuchweight.SoapparentlythePaleodietisjusttheambassadors
fromKFCandNando'sandGeorgeForemantopromotetheirproducts.Sinceyouwillbeeatingmoremeatonthisdietok.Um.
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[] Dafurgen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsomethingwentdownduringjfk'sassassinationthatthepublicisnotletinon.Mysolereasontobelievethisisthefactthatlostall
theautopslyreporstandphotosratherquickly.
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[] Dafurgen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsomethingwentdownduringjfk'sassassinationthatthepublicisnotletinon.Mysolereasontobelievethisisthefactthatlostall
theautopslyreportsandphotosratherquickly.
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Burning/Destroyingautopsynotesisactuallyfairlycommonpracticeonceafinalreoptiswritten.forexample,wouldyoukeepyour
notesfromaresearchpaperonceyourpaperiscomplete?no(atleastiwouldnt).OnepointtosupportyouisthatJFKbrainwebt
missingallthoseyearsago,andstillismissing.
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TheDarthDarthBinksStarWarsconspiracyreallygetsme.
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Chemtrails
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Chemtrails
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[] oitapat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Climatechange.
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Ebolawasblownupbymediaoutletscontrolledbythebousoisetocoveruptransatlanticdeals/shadystuff
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[] unusualtomato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatTide,andmajordetergentcompaniesmakeupthe"recommendedamounttouse"sothatconsumersusemoreoftheirproduct
faster.Noonereallyknowshowmuchdetergentisneededforaloadoflaundry,onlywhatthecompaniestellustouse.
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Butthosepodsaresocool!Iagreethough,likethesuggestedservingonfoodlabels:it'salwayskeptunder300caloriestomakeit
seemlikeaviablesnackoption,tilyoufindoutitsbythegrams.LikeI'mgonnabustoutmyfoodscaleforM&Ms,lol.
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[] brottorblack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhateverthefuckitistheyareuptoatBohemianGrove
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[] NyupDeddyXMTN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theygovernmentdoesntlie,itengagesindisinformation.
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Treefiddy
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conspraci?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gkiuVzRyo
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SaudiArabia,orafinancerfromSA,playedabigpartin9/11anditisnot,"oflittlepracticalsignificance."
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[] mrNONDESCRIPT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwasn'tthetarget.
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Sowhowas
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[] mrNONDESCRIPT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JohnConally,GovernorofTexasandSecretaryoftheNavy,whoconvertedformerUSMarineLeeHarveyOswald'shonourable
dischargetoadishonourabledischargewhenOswaldmovedtotheUSSR,quitesometimeafterOswaldlefttheMarines.Oswald
wasveryproudofofhisNavalservice,andwasunderstandablyquitetickedoffwhenhisdischargewasreviewed.
ConallywasinthesamecarasKennedy,andwasshotfirst.Kennedy'skillshotwascollateraldamage,andthebulletwasintended
toexecuteConally.
OswaldhadacrediblemotiveforassassinatingConally.AllpossiblemotivesforkillingKennedyarevagueandcontroversial,which
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entertainsalotofotherconspiracytheories(suchasOswaldbeingthepatsyforapoliticalassassination,thegrassyknolland
friends).
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Interesting.Thanks
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[] ReeferCheefer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You.
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Ohno!
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[] pdpedro77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverythinginAustraliaistryingtokillyou.Constantly.
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Notaconspiracy,justafactlol
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[] OnTheBrink401 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?No9/11conspiracyinhere???
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[] pehatu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThebiggestmajorconspiracytheorythatIcanseesometruthinisthattheplanethatwentdownoverthefieldsduring9/11wasn't
broughtdownbypassengersonboardbutbytheUSMilitary.Youseeotherplanescausingthedeathofthousandsofpeopleyoudon't
takechanceswhenyouhavetheopportunitytotakeaknownciviliancasualtynumberoverthepossibledeathofthousandsmore.
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[] elfarmy177 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myexwifeisawhore...
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[] Hotboyfriend undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Checkthatoneoffthelistoftheoriesconfirmed.
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[] Droodyka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatNASAcreatesthunderstormstohidegiantspacebattlesfromus.
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[] SpideySense13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcanmeltsteelbeams
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[] Zipcoon666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cityonthemoon
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DonaldTrumphasnointentionofbeingthenextpresidentoftheunitedStatesbutisactingasadistraction.Notsurefromwhatyetbut
thereisnowayhiscampaignisserious.
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TheUSnukedHiroshimaandNagasakitopreventJapanfromsurrenderingtotheUSSR,Japanhadalreadylostbeforethebombing
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[] Intrepid00 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisn'taconspiracy.Itistrue,justnottheonlyreason.Alliedforcesdidn'twantanothereastandwest,northandsoutharea.
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[] Spartan7741 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheJapanesewerealsorefusingtosurrenderuntiltheUSlaunchedaninvasionofmainlandJapan.Thiswaytheycouldkillahigh
volumeofUSforcesonthebeachandthereforegetamorefavorabledealupontheirsurrender.Mostimportantlygettingtojeep
theiremperor.
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[] Sloppy2ndxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thateveryoneontheinternethasfuckedyourmotherinherdirtyasshole.
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[] TexasForever95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthJarJarisreal
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[] Diluxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11ImnotsayingtheUSgovernmentactivelyparticipatedtheofficialstoryjusthastoomanyholeswhenputunderscrutinytobeallof
whathappened.
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[] CBRKarp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Istolethecookiefromthecookiejar.
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[] deerhoof8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911wasaninsidejob.
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[] Bartisgod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNazisburnedtheReichstagtoframetheCommunistsandgetanexcusetobanallotherpartiesandpasstheenablingacts.It's
believedbymostmainstreamhistorians,butitsstillconsideredtobeaconspiracytheory,justaverypopularone,becausethere'slittle
directevidence.
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[] mdbx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'stwopeopleontheinternet:MeandYou.Everythingyoudon'tpost,Ido.
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[] spartanburt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsalwaysnicetomeetanothersolipsist
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[] huny6969 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FederalbankofUSA(pluscentralbanksandprivateantsaswell)isprintingmoneyoutofthinair...
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[] GAbdelnoor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatskindatrue,exceptforpennies.
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[] huny6969 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatskindatrue,exceptforpennies
Ya,youarerightdearhowever,wemustnotforgetthattheintrinsicvalueisdepreciatingwiththepassageoftime...fiveyearsago
thevaleofcopperwasn'tthesameastoday.Thatsiswhywecansaythateventhethestatemintisinvolvedintheveryscamof
whichthebanksaremainplayers.:)
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Oh.It'syou.Hello,dear.
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[] eLyUKayEe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheearlychurchinventedtheSecondComingtokeeppeoplecomingback.
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thatisn'ttrue?wait....proofplease!
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[] WessL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thebiggestoneinmyopinionisthegovernment/peoplemakingconspiracytheoristslooklikecrazypeople.Yeahtherearesomecrazy
onesbutsomeactuallymakegreatpoints/arguments.Ilikethatpeoplelooktofindtheirowninfoandmaketheirownopinion.Imoitis
reallywhatweneedbecause80%ofthepopulationiseasytomanipulatebymedia.Thismakesiteasytopromoteonecertain
candidateforpresidentortopromotecertainactioneggoingtowarandorapprovingcertainlaws.Imotherearetonsofconspiracy
theoriesthatcouldbetrue.Ihavemorerespectforconspiracytheoriststhanthemassthatjustfolloweachotherandalwaysnodyes.
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[] LastOne314159 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
80%isbeingverygenerous.
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[] bozzdeplane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This
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[] hickfield undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCanadianmaplesyrupcartelkeepspricesartificiallyhigh.
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[] fartsandcraps666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Reptilianshapeshiftersruletheworld.Probably.
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[] NoonecanknowMiner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
The2000USElectionwasrigged.
Also,TWA800,a747thatblewupovertheAtlantic,wasshotdown.Maybenotintentionally,butitwasshotdown.
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Coughdropsmakeyoucoughmore
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[] teeb46 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Non.Allconspiracytheoriesaredreamtupbymoronsandbelievedbydickheads.
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ISISisactuallyaproxyarmyfortheUStooverthrowthegovernmentofSyria
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reallydude
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That'swhatPutinhasbeensaying,wouldn'tbethefirsttimetheUSusedjihadistooverthrowaRussianbackedgovernment
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[] Binarycold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thematrix.Obviouslyprobablynottheideaofthematrixasportrayedinthemovie"thematrix"buttheideathatourentirecivilizationis
controlledbyaselectnumberofpeoplewhousemedia,money,andtheillusionoffreedomtocontrolthemasses.Allforthesole
purposeofcontinuingsocietyasweknowit.TheUnitedstatesisaperfectexampleofthisfalsifiedfreedomcreatingamuchmore
easilycontrolledsociety.Pump"freedom"asyourmainexport,andconvinceeveryonethatyourcountryisawesomeandusefreedom
asthetagline.Thenconditionallofyourcitizenstopromotethisideaandcondemnanyonewhoopposesthenotionorquestionsit's
validity.Thengivepeopleincentivetoprotectthese"freedoms"byprovidingthemwithlandandhomesthattheybelievetheyownbut
reallyitstillbelongstoyou.Thatwaypeoplewillfighttoprotectsomethingtheybelieveistheirsandpayyoutonsofmoneyyearlyto
maintainthisfantasywheninrealityyoucanreclaimthispropertyatanytimeshouldyouwish.Thengivepeoplesomethingtounite
against,evenifit'syou.Allowingpeopleto"fightthesystem"makesthembelievethatit'spossibletofightthesystem,andaslongas
theyholdtheideathattheyaren'tundertotalanduttercontroltheywillnevertrulyfighttheactualproblem,whichisthembeingtotally
andcompletelyundercontrol.WhentheyarebornslapanumberonthemandforcethemtogothroughYOURapprovededucation
systemconditioningthemwithyourpreapprovedbrandoflearning,callanyonewhodeviatesfromthisnormabnormaloratrouble
makerandencouragethosearoundthemtoostracizethem.Whentheyareoldenoughsendthemintotheworkforcetocontinue
pumpingmoneyintothemachinethatisyourgovernmentandcallthisdrainingofmoneytaxes.Anyonewhorefusestoconformtothis
moldwillbecalledlazy,bums,andoveralllookeddownuponbyeveryoneelse.Thencontrolthemediaandeverythingingestedby
thesecitizensandallowinsaneconspiriciestogainpopularity,thatwaywhenrealconspiriciesarisetheyjustgetlumpedinwiththe
"insane"theories.It'sbrilliant!!!
TlDrweareallbeingcontrolledtosuchadegree,evenwhenwethinkwe'redoingsomethingtoexposethecontrol,it'sjustanother
levelofcontrol.
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[] vunze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Givetheenemyafaceandeveryonewantstokillit.Saddam,Osama,Khadafi,Assad.
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[] arunnair87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lessknown,butthere'sagroupofusouttherethatthinkmilkishorribleforyourhealth.
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How?
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[] iamPause undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheGovernmentisabletolistentoprettymuchallelectroniccommunication.
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SugeKnightbeingbehindthedeathsofEasyEandTupacsureseemslikeapossibility.
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[] opisska undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
P=NP
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Proveit.)
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911
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Theworldisruledbyaraceofextraterrestrialshapeshiftingreptiles.
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[] yokobono undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LimediseasewasdevelopedbytheformerheadofthenazibioweaponsdivisionatPlumIslandintheUSafterthewar.Itgotoutand
attemptstoeradicateitbycullingallwildlifeintheislandfailed.
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Asaproatleastscurvywillbeeliminated.
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[] KambioN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] Spamateur_Hour undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlloftheseRedditaccountswerethesameperson...
http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/23upn7/the_mighty_powerful_bh_obama_avoids_red_line_for/ch0s1ly
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[] Joe1972 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That\u\gallowboobisactuallythesamepersonas\u\unidan
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[] NrthnMonkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheProtocolsofofthelearnedelders.ThathasbeenintheBritishMuseumsince1906,butwhenyoureadittodayitissoaccuratein
itsprophesythatIhavetroublebelievingitisfiction.
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9/11.Idon'tcareaboutsteelbeams.There'snowaythattheofficialversionholdsup.Noway.
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[] Ancientbones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndriodandiOSphonesbatteriescanlastlonger.Thetechnologyisthere,butbigbusinesses(i.e.electricitycompanies)don'twantit
made.
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[] i_need_wood8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sbeencalledtheCSIeffectgoestheotherwayalsothoughjuriesexpectcomplicatedforensicsandDNAinarandomcrimeit
wascoveredupatthetimehadverytightlipsonspaceexplorationprogramsandlaunches.
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[] Hikikomori523 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNewburghConspiracy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newburgh_Conspiracy
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[] LamontCranston undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WatergatewasaHoneypot.
Hasanybodyeveractuallyprovidedanexplanationforwhattheyweredoingbreakingintotheoffice?
TheDemocratsknewaboutNixonsplumbersandCREEPandhisparanoia.
SotheyspreadrumorsabouthavinginformationonhispastbusinessdealingswithHowardHughesandwerewaitinguntiltheelection
toreleasethem.Rumorsaboutcrookeddealinghadalreadycosthimoneelection.
AndNixonlethisownmendacitydotherest.
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[] magicsonar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AntiVirusSoftwarecompanieswritemostoftheviruses.
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Nah...theyjustscrewaroundwithSSLcerts:)
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Abigcelebritydiesanytimesomethingofnationalimportanceishappening.RobinWilliamsbeingoneofthem.Sometimes2big
celebsdiewithinaweekofeachother.
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Ourmonetarysystemiscorrupt.Noonehasaclue.
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TheonewhererussiamayhavebombedsomeoftheirownapartmentssothattheycouldblameitonChechenyaandinvade.
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Disney'smanipulationoftheentiresaga.
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IreallyfeellikeDrakedidagoofydanceinHotlineBlingonpurposeaskindaofamarketingwaytomakeitgetattentionviaamemeor
something.I'mprettysureIseensomethingabouthimcomplainingit'sbecameamemebeforeIreallyseenitpopupanywhere.Not
reddit,not4chan,andIdidn'tseeitgetpassedaroundonfacebook.
IalsolookedaroundredditwhenIherdhimcomplaining,allIcouldfindwasreallybland,cookiecutlookingpostsaboutitbeingthe
nextmemebyaccountsthathaveonlybeenactiveforlike23months.
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Thealiensexistandtheusgovernmenthasmadeatreatywiththem
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Doesn'teveryonealreadyknowthis?
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RonaldReagan'sadministrationintroducedcrackcocaineintoTheAfricanAmericancommunityinordertocombatblackmilitarismand
destroyinnercityblackAmerica,whilethenenforcinga"WaronDrugs"whichcreatedapermanentunderclassofthosesameinnercity
blackpeoplewithfeweducational/jobopportunities.
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Bigcorperationsaren'tevil,theyactuallywanttohelp.
They'reonlypercievedevilbecausewhentheyunintentionallydothewrongthing,biasinthemediablowsthingswayoutofproportion,
andthis,coupledwiththeaveragepersonssubparcriticalthinkingskills,createshysteriainthepublicrealm,andultimatelyforcesbig
corporationstorunandhide.Theyhavetodimsissallacountabilityandflatoutdenyeverything,ratherthantakingontheproblem,
findingasolution,andmakingeveryonehappyagain.
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buthowabouttheFACTthatcorpswereinventedtoPREVENTliability,andforNOOTHERreason!
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Lmao
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I'velookedforevidencethatmyrecollectioniseitherunique,orwrong.
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Largeoilcompaniesarekeepingtheknowledgeofhugeunderwateroilreservesothatoilpricedoesn'tgodown.
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"W"buriedrecordsshowingheevadedwartimeservice.
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Onlineprivacyisamyth.
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Ithinkpowerfulcountriesaretryingtocreatenewworldorder.Therabbitholegoesverydeepbutthisistheconclusion.
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[] DarkariaX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idahodoesn'texist!Imean,haveyoueverbeenthere?No,justaskthefrench!
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[] zeuph undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Roswell.
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[] OhShitItsSam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheguncontrolmovementinAmericaisheavilyinfluencedbytheRepublicanParty,andtheextremereactionsafterdomestic
tragediesintheUnitedStatesarepurposelyspuntovilifytheweaponsusedandnottheuntreatedorundiagnosedmentaldisturbances
thatplagueournationsyoungpeoplewhobreakunderthepressuretobeassuccessfulandwelltodoastheirpeers.
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[] blanon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ammod,canconfirmthisisaninherentandunfixableproblemwiththeirgame/business.
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Ican'tseewhythiswackyconspiracytheoryI'vecomeacrossinmyareaand,sadlyenough,4050yearoldguysthatwenttojailfor
theUSSRtoadmitthattheyhadalreadybeenproducedandtherewasmuchdemand.
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Womenwon'tpay$50foratinyfractionoftheentiresaga.
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Waterisn'twet,watermakeswet.
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Ourvotesdon'tmatter,peopledon'tchoosepoliticians,they'rechosenforus.Attheendofthedaywehave0power,andthegovtis
runbycorporationsandtherich.
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9/11wasaninsidejob
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ThatUKChancellorGeorgeOsbornesleptwithablackdominatrixprostituteseveraltimes,andthatAndyCouslonwhosawthatit
wascoveredsympatheticallyintheMurdochPresswaslatergivenajobbyCameronasareturnedpoliticalfavour
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here'sthephotohttp://atrueindependentscotland.com/wpcontent/uploads/2014/12/hqdefault.jpg
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[] chimnado undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bankersruletheworld
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None.Conspiraciesareforcrazypeople.Itrustthatmygovernmentandthegovernmentsoftheworldhaveourbestinterestsatheart.
Imean,whywouldanyonethinkotherwise?It'snotlikehistoryhasanabundanceofevidencetodisprovethatoranything.Damncrazy
peoplewiththeirconspiracies!JustshutupandletmewatchGameofThrones.
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TheMontrealscrewjobwasawork.
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[] westcor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theladythatwaskilledbythekillerwhaleafewyearsback(DawninBlackfish)wasahoaxfortogetadvertisingforFreeWilly4which
cameoutshortlyafterhttps://youtu.be/E1p7OIgg0
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Machineswereherebeforeman,Proofhttps://youtu.be/cDJzN0_W4Bo
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[] greg047 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatPutinandFederalSecurityServicewereblowinguphousesinRussiain1999
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Horsesareactuallyaliens.Myproofhttps://youtu.be/BnxZmY1QNjQ
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MichaelJacksonwaskilled
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Ojdidit.
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Thatthewordterroristwasdesignedfromthewordtheorist.
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OJwasguilty.
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[] CDev33 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dgowithAliensexisting.Someconsideritaconspiracy.Iprefertothinkthatiftherearepossiblythousandsofothersolar
systems/universesoneofthemhastohavelifeformsinit.
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Earthisactuallybannedfromthegalacticcovenantuntilwegetoverthisnudityhangupandputonsomedarnclothes.Sofarwe'rethe
onlyracethat'striedtosendpornographytootherspecies.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_plaque)
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[] atayls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
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Whatiftheyaren'tfromotherplanets,toofaraway,butexistmultidimensionally,abletomanifestatwillinourrealitybutnotconfinedto
it.
Maybeallexperienceofangelicbeingsthroughouthistorywasthesebeings.MaybeourGod'shavebeenthesebeings,andnowtous
theyareextraterrestrialbeings.
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[] whoknowsjeff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisestimatedthattherearemorethanabillionsolarsystemsinourgalaxyalone,sowaymoreplanets.Ourgalaxyisoneoftens,
possiblyhundredsofbillionsifnotmore.Theideathatwearealoneintheuniverseisactuallyratherselfcentredandignorant.Ifweare
thenitisastronomicallyslimchance
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[] Sturgeon_Genital undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
The"conspiracy"wouldbesomepeopleonEarthknowingaboutaliensandkeepingitsecretfromtherestofus.
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Forsomereason,Ireallywantthistobetrue.
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[] Sturgeon_Genital undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Metoo.Itwouldjustbesocool.It'swhypeoplelovethingslikeTheXFilesandMeninBlack.
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yourlocationisconstantlymonitoredifyouhaveasmartphone,(onyouthatis)
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WiththereleaseofYouTubered,moreadsfrequentlyshowupwithoutit,andmoreofthemareunskippable.Thisissothatyouare
inevitablyforcedtopay$13amonthforYouTuberedtostopsaidads.
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[] doubledongbot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostofthem.
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WesterngovernmentsplanningtheArabspringandbeingresponsibleforthecreationofISIS.InwesternaddSaudiArabiaalsoknown
astheNewandlargerversionofISISbutI'dlimitthattitletotheSAgovernment.
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AssomeonementionedtheMichaelJordansilentban,AndreAgassiadmittedtheATPhelpedcoveruphissuspensiontoo.
SometennisfanstheorizethatRafaNadalreceivedsilentbansforPEDS/Roidswhilebeingthesecondmostpopularplayerinthe
worldbehindFederer.Manyyearshe'dhave"kneeproblems"followingWimbledonenteringthehardcourtseason,andmissmany
monthsonthetourincludingbigtournaments.Thenwouldcomebackandwinmorebigtournamentsbeforerepeatingthesamecycle
again.
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I'mnotAmerican.
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PresidentObama?
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DonaldTrump?
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Yoshiisanasshole!
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Ihaveatheorythatshavingcreamgrowsfacialhair
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[] Scaramanga802 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheStarbucksredcupoutragewasallmadeup.Itwasjustanadvertisementploy.(badpress=lotsoffreepress)
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[] marzipan5toast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatTrumpisaClintonplantputtheretodistractthefromtheactualRepublicancandidatessoHilaryhashigherchancesofwinning.
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[] rocktogether undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justastherearepeoplewhothinkeverythingisaconspiracy,therearepeopleouttherewhoadamantlywontevenlistentothingsthat
areinconsistentwithwhattheyweretoldistheofficialstory.
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[] bobnojio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Musiciansarefundedbypoliticians
Everytimethereissomethingthatshouldbenews,somecelebritydoessomethingridiculousandbecomesthenews
Waron_______?Bieber'sdick
Politicalscandal?Ohnotheirmarriageisinshamblesandhecheatedonher
Wardeclaredafterbullshitabout"WMD's"?Somebullshit
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[] Dame_Juden_Dench undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditadminshavedirectedthemodsofdefaultsubstocuratethecontentthatuserssee.
Thisiswhysomanythreadsgetdeleted/locked,oroccasionallyreappearafewhourslater.
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[] toughduck53 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IonceheardsomeonesayObamawasblack,sothere'sthat.
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[] Vulcanicus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegovernmentispurposelywreckingtheeducationsysteminordertoensurethatthepublicisincapableofinformingitselfabout
variousissues(butespeciallythingsthatmightleadtoknowledgeofwrongdoingonthepartofthegovernmentanditsmajor
contributors)andexercisingconstitutionalandotherlegalrights.
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[] Novogrod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditalreadydoesthatforfree.
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Oh,manythingscanleadpeopleastray.Butthosethingsdon'tamounttoadenialoftheopportunitytodeveloptheskillsforcritical
thinking.Ofcourseyoumightarguewithidiotchildrenusingtheircellphonesinclass,thingslikeredditmightbearealthreat,butthe
ruinoftheeducationsystempredatesthewidespreaduseofcellphonesamongchildrenandteenagersandschoolscan
ban/confiscatetheawfuldevices.Andyes,Ihatethem.Iownoneofthenonsmartphonevarietyasamatterofnecessity,butI
loatheit.AndIwillloathetheinevitableownershipofasmartphonewhenmyfutureprofessionorthephonecompaniesforcemeto
haveone.Okay,thatwentalittleamiss.
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[] MisterWafle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheTitanicwaspurposefullysunktopasstheFederalReserve.
Basically,atthetimeoftheTitanic,theFederalReserveintheU.S.wasintheprocessofbeingcreated.Thereweremanywellknown
figuresontheTitanicthatdidnotsupporttheFederalReserve,andiftheyhadsurvived,therewasaprettygoodchancethattheFR
wouldnothavebeencreatedthus,somepowerfullU.S.politiciansknewthatthesefigureswereontheTitanicandthuspulledsome
stringstosinkit.Idon'tknowhowtrueitis,butit'saprettycoolstory,trueornot.
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None.Noneofthem.
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bushdidnotdonothingin9/11
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hilariousmemebro
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TheScrantonStranglervisitedthebusinessparkDunderMifflinwasin/weknowwhotheScrantonstrangleris.
IthinkitwasToddPacker.
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AdolphHitlerdiedinthe80'sinArgentina
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bush
did911
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Jfk911andufos
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[] soloran undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
In1979accordingtoCarterandmembersofhisadministration,theywerewillingtogiveIranmillionsofdollarsworthofsparepartsfor
theirAmericanmadeequipment.TheIraniansturneddownthedealandkeptthehostagesthroughtheelectionuntilthedayReagan
wassworninJanuary1980.Obviously,thebesttimeforIrantomakeadealwasbeforetheelection.Officially,theonlyreasonIran
releasedthehostagesin1980wastounfreezetheirassetsheldinAmericanbanks.ThentheIranContrahearingsshowedtheReagan
infactdidsellarmsandsparepartstoIran,morethanIranwouldhavegottenintheoriginaldealofferedbyCarter.Therefore,the
ReaganBushcampaignmadeasecretdeal,treason,andIranstilltothisdayhastheevidencetoprovethedeal,whichtheymusthave
heldontotoassurecompliancewithReaganBushaftertheytookoffice.Ican'tseewhythiswackyconspiracytheoryisn'tobviously
true.
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[] Mastr_Blastr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YepandtheprimaryreasonwhyisKhomeinihatedJimmyCarter.Theresagoodbookonthistimenamed"October1980"byGeorge
Cave.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StuxnetIftheUS/Israelcancreateacomputervirusmeanttobespreadaroundtheworldthatonly
damagesthespecificcomputersusedtocontrolthenuclearspinningcentrifugesinIran(makethemoperatetooquicklyand
overcapacitywhiledisplayingthattheywereoperatingatnormalspeedsandatregularcapacity)soastobreakthecentrifugesbeyond
thepossibilityofrepair,Ithinktheycouldcreatesomethingthatwoulddeleteanysuchvideofromwhereveritwasbeingdigitallystored.
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Ifit'savideo...somethingtheIraniansmusthavegottentoassurecompliance,standstoreason.Andthevideowouldhavebeena
tapein1980...
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[] nckevns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheotherpartofthistheoryisthattheReaganBushcampaignpushedtheIranianstoholdontothehostagesbecausetheissuewas
hurtingCarterpolitically.Ifanagreementwaseververified,Ithinkmostamericansprobablywouldcarequiteabit.It'shardtojustify
pushingaforeigncountrytokeepholdinghostagessoyoucanwinanelection.
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Evennow,itmatters.AllthisReaganasGodstuffwouldstop,Iwouldhope...
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The8384saleswereforhostagesHezbollahcapturedinLebanonatthattimeincludingtheCIAstationchief.Theyweren'tforthe
Embassyhostages,whywouldtheywait4yearstopaythem??
Itishowevertheorizedtheydidthistogetmoresales.
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[] SoCal_SUCKS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uhhhhthat'sallfineandgoodexceptIrandidmakeadealwiththeCarteradministrationthattheReaganadministrationalsoupheld
andevendefendedbeforetheSupremeCourt.ThatwasallafterOperationEagleClawfailedofcourse.
HowevertheIranContrascandalthingwasabsolutelynotthewholetruth.Weonlygotpartofit.WeknowthatsellingtheIranianstank
partsaftercongresstoldReagantostopwasillegal.ReaganandCo.neededtogetmoneyforthatoffthebookssotheCIAdeveloped
anoffthebooks,cashgeneratingmonster:thecrackcocaineepidemic.RickRosshelpedtheCIAspreadcrackaddictionacrossthe
US,whiletheyprofitedfrommiddlemanningcokebetweenRossandtheContrasinGuatemala.
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[] valarmorghulis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asbadasthissounds,OperationCredibleSportwouldhavebeenfuckingawesometoseehappen.
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I'mnotfamiliarwiththatone.
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[] valarmorghulis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThequickanddirtyisthattheyweregoingtolandaMC130H(modifiedbyadding30rocketmotorsforSTOL)inthe
soccerstadiumacrossthestreetfromtheembassy,assaultacrossthestreet,thenback.Duringthattimetheplane
wouldturnaround,theywouldgetbackon,andthenliftoffandflyaway.
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[] food_toast_bark_loud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswasprettywelldocumented.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/garywebbdarkalliance_n_5961748.html
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Cantdecideifthiswouldbeabigdeal.Ifeellikeeveryonewouldbeoutraged,thenforgetaboutitwithin2weeks.
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[] ojos_mudos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didsomethinghappen?IwaswatchingtheNFL...
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Americansdon'tneedtoforget,theysimplydenythetruthuntilitgoesaway.
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[] PorTroyal_Smith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forgetwhat...?
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[] Stankin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sexactlywhatwillhappen.They'lljustcoversomeblackkidgettingshotforacoupledaysandtheentireAmericanpublicwill
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forgetaboutit.
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[] inventingnothing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therejusthappenstobeanotherterroristattackorschoolshootingeverytimeafterthere'sabigstorylikethis.
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[] TheEllimist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwouldbehilarioustoseeFoxNewshavetochoosebetweenspinningitinReagan'sfavorandnotreportingitatall.
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[] el_drako undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Americasarenotaeasilydistractedassomethinkweare,I'llhaveyouknowthatmanydedicatsquirrel!
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[] flying87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsmorerelevanttodaythan,letssaywhenphotosofMarilynMonroeblowingKennedysurfaced.
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[] iodinered undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didthatactuallyhappen?
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Yerp.Thoughthepicswereputonlockdownimmediatelyafter.TheKennedyfamilystillhasalotofpull.Plusithelps
thatitwasn'tdigitallyspreadliketheJlawpicswere.
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[] Windrammer420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sfunnyhowthatgoesisn'tit
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[] obviouslya4w5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mob/CIAheavilyinvolvedinKennedyassassination.Whetherornottheydirectlypulledthetrigger,Idon'tknow.Oswaldissupposedly
innocent.CIAusedhimasapatsy.
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[] Koulyone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisonemakestotalsensewhenyourealizetheCIAhadprettymuchgoneroguebythattime.ItwantedthewarinVietnamandthe
MobwasgettingreallytiredofBobbyasAG.Ibelievethequotefromsomeoneinthemobwas"Justcutofftheheadanditwilldie".
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[] obviouslya4w5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theclassifiedgovernmentfilesaresettobereleasedforpublicrecord/usesometimelike2032.
ThemovieJFKwithKevinCostneriscompletelyfactualandveryinformative.Fascinatingstuffimho.
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[] NewsAddictIsBack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSGovernmenthasstaffpostthisquestionatleastonceaweeksopeoplecontinuallyfocusonoldconspiraciesthattheyknow
willgetkarmabecausepeoplearefamiliarwiththemfromseeingthemEvery.SingleWeek,ignoringalltherealtroublesome
conspiracieswayatthebottomofthecomments..likethisone.
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[] artimeied undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thereisnodarkenergyordarkmatter,wejustdon'twanttoadmitthatwefoundabasicflawinourunderstandingoftheuniverse.
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[] Shadoworen117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Interesting..Elaborateplease?
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weinventeddarkmatter,becausewefoundoutthethegalaxieswouldnotbeabletoexistifthecurrentamountofmatterwe
currentlyrecognizeintheuniverseisreallyallthereis,thegalaxieswillsimplyflyapart,sowehadtwooptions,wecouldrecognize
thatourunderstandingofnatureisflawed,orinventthemissingmatter,wetookthesecondoption.
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[] KingMoop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ishort...No.We'veknownpreciselyhoworbitingbodiesbehavefor100years.Thethingsontheoutsideshouldmoveslower
inorbit.Whendealingwithgalaxies,wedon'tseethat.weseethestuffontheoutsidemovingfaster.Plus,wenoticedthatthe
gravitygeneratedbythecenterofgalaxiesisn'tsufficienttoholdagalaxytogether.Sotheremustbemoremasstherethatwe
can'tsee...whichwecall"DarkMatter."WeusedtothinkthattheUniverseandallitsgalaxieswerestagnate,thenwesaw
thatallofthelightwewereseeingfromallofthegalaxiesarounduswere"redshifted,"whichisevidencethattheyare
acceleratingawayfromus.Inphysics,you'retaughtthatwherethereisacceleration,thereisaforce.Thenameofthe
mysteriousforcecausingtheoutwardaccelerationoftheUniverseiscalled"DarkEnergy."Isthiswhatyoumean?Ofcourse
wedon'tknowwhattheyare...that'sthepoint.Butthey'represenceisobservable.
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Sotheremustbemoremasstherethatwecan'tsee...
correctmeifiamwrong,butthisisnottherealimmediateconclusionwemustdrawfromtheobservationthatyou
described,theimmediateconclusionshouldbethatwefoundsomethingthatdoesnotfitourcurrentknowledgeofthe
universe,thenextstepshouldbeoneofthetwo,assumingthatourbasicunderstandingisflawed,orassumethatour
knowledgeistrue,butthereisouttheresomethingwecan'tsee.didn'twedotheexactsamemistakewhenwe
assumed[19'thcentury]thatthereisanexoticsubstancethroughwithlightistravelingandwecalledit'ether'?aren't
wedoingthesamemistakeagain?
<<ThenameofthemysteriousforcecausingtheoutwardaccelerationoftheUniverseiscalled"DarkEnergy."Isthis
whatyoumean?Ofcoursewedon'tknowwhattheyare...>>
no,iamsuggestingthatyourassumptionthatthereisthisexoticforceiswrong,maybewefoundabasicflawinour
understandingoftheuniverse?
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Ithinksayingthatourunderstandingisflawediswherewe'rehittingabitofacommunicationblock.Ofcoursewe
don'thavethefullpicture.It'slikewithourSolarSystemabout100yearsago.Wesawthattheprecessionofthe
orbitofMercurydidn'tmatchupwiththemath.Inreallife,Mercury'sprecessionoforbitwasslightlyfasterthan
whatcouldbeaccountedforusingstandardNewtonianmechanics.EinsteincamealongwithGeneralRelativity,
closedthegapsmallgapwithanewfieldinphysics,andthemathmatcheswhat'sobservedintherealworldnow.
It'skindofthesamething.We'rejustmissing2morepiecesofthepuzzle.Itdoesn'tmeanthatweputthepuzzle
togetherwrong.
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We'rejustmissing2morepiecesofthepuzzle.Itdoesn'tmeanthatweputthepuzzletogetherwrong.
howdoyouknow?
andalsoithinkthatyouranalogytonewtoneinstienandmercuryisnotcorrentinthiscase,wearenot
talkingaboutaminorgapbetweethepredictednumberandthenumberweseeinreallity,butsomething
muchmuchdeeperthenthis,iremember2015yearsagoscientistsweretalkingaboutthequistionhow
fastistheunivereseslowingdowninit'sexpansionafterthebigbang,nooneevenconsideredthe
possibilitythatwewillfindout[likewedid]thattheuniverseisnotdeceleratingbutaccelerating,and
lookingbackicanreallyunderstandwhy,iftheuniverseisdeceleratingthanwecanexplainitbytheknown
lawsofphysics,butifitisacceleratingthantheforcethatpushestheuniverseapart,overwhelmingthe
forceofgravitythatwantstocrunchtheuniverseisatotallyunknownforce,aforcethatweknownoting
about,andbydefenition[justliketheether]hassomeveryuniqueandextremeproperties.
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Ilikethewayyouthink.
AndIcandefinitivelysaythatwe'veputmostofthepuzzletogethercorrectlybecausethepicturewe
havemathematicallymatcheswhatweobserve,untilwereachliterallythegrandestscaleinthe
observableuniverse(whichiswherewehitdarkenergyanddarkmatter,atthegrandestscalewecan
confirmexists).Whydon'tyoulikemygeneralrelativity>precessionofMercuryanalogy?
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Iviewthe'darkmatterenergy'problemafundamentalproblem,whiletheproblemofmercuryis
inmyviewaminorproblem.whyisitaproblemforustosaythatwedon'tunderstandgravityin
verybiggestscalewecanobserve?ifthereisaboundarybetweentherealmofrelativityand
quantum,whycanttherebeaboundarybetweenrelativityandsomethingnewwhenitcomesto
hugespaces?
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Sothereismoretoe=mc2...
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E=mc2isn't"wrong,"it'sincomplete.It'sonlymassenergyequivalence.Thefullequationis
2
E2=(pc) +(m2)*(c4)
E=mc2isjusttheenergycontainedinstagnantmass,or"restmass,"anditcanbecalculatedinotherways.
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whatiamclaimingisthatyourresponseSHOULDhavebeentheonlylegitimateresponseofthescientists,thatthe
evidenceshowsusthatwemustmakeanewleapinourunderstandingoftheuniverse.
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Newton'stheorywasonceheldinhighregard,butnowitdoesn'tscalewell.ProbablythesamewithEinstein's
theorytherewillbemorevariablestotakeintoaccount.
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butaslongaswecontinuetopretendwedidnotgettoapointwhereourtheoriescollapse,wewillnotstart
theprocessoffindingthebetteranswer.
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[] som1udntno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'samaponthebackoftheDeclarationofIndependence.
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[] UtherFunBringer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HanSolodidn'tshotfirst.
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[] inhospitableUterus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TWAflight800wasshotdownbyanavymissile.Severalimportantpeopledirectlyinvolvedhaveevencomeouttosaytherewasa
coverup.
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[] Erikz93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shampooisnotnecessaryforhealthyhair.Shampoocompaniestellpeopletheyneedittobe"clean"andnowsocietyacceptsthatas
fact.Justwashwithwaterandmaybeconditioneveryfewdays.
Source:Haven'tusedshampoointenyearsandIgetcomplimentsonmyhairallthetime.
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[] erraticerror undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ivenoticedthattoo.Whenyouonlyuseconditionerapparentlyitcanmakeyourhairmorecurly,happenedtome.Ithinkitworks
becausetheshampootakesoutthe"bad"(whichcouldbethelie)andgoodnutrientsandtheconditionerputssomenaturalnutrients
backin.
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[] mydadsnameisdavid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthepartthatmaybetrueabouttheJFKassassinationisthatitisprobablyreallycomplicated.
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[] pm0n3y undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JamesFileskilledJFK.
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[] GODZ1RA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNAACPisbehindBLMandallblackprotesting...thinkabouthowspecialinterestgroupsoperateunderthetableandifyoucan
reallytellthedifferencebetweennewsandsponsoredcontent.
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[] OldSpaceChaos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lizardpeople
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[] mavrick987 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkittruethatwhenpeopledon'twantyoutobenotabletheyjustlabelyouaconspiracytheorist.
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[] cyberdude1115 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatCourtneyLovehadKurtCobainkilledandstagedhissuicide.OnNetflixtheyhaveakindadocumentaryonitcalledSoakedIn
Bleachreallyinterestingstuff.
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[] Thatoneguy12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2hckuq/what_crazy_conspiracy_theory_turned_out_to_be_true/ckrib35
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[] ifiwastheilluminati undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheFEDandallothernations'centralbanksareownedandcontrolledbyprivatepartiesprivatebanks,investors,etc.Thesecentral
bankshavenotieorallegiancetothegovernment,it'sallanassumedconnectioni.e.theFEDisnomorepartofgov'tthanFederal
Express.
Thecontrolandmanipulationofthenation'scurrencysince1913hasallowedforaninsanetransferofwealth.Thesepplbasicallyown
everythingnowandthere'snothinganybodycando.
Postparanoidcommentsonreddit,ignored.Gettensofthousandsoffollowers,beingmonitoredandtracked,butignored.
Getmillionsoffollowers,smearedinthemedia(some70yearoldhotelmaidclaimsyourapedher),planecrash,someonewitha
prominentmiddlenamerandomlygunsyoudownthencommitssuicide.
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[] churnice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cannabisisillegalbecauseitcouldreplace99%ofsyntheticpharmecuticals.
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[] jordy22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheAbrahamicreligions(Judaism,ChisitanityandIslam)arethegreatestandoldestpoliticalconspiracy,straightinourface.
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[] RespublicaCuriae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgettheEgyptianpagantraditions.
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Darn,missedthat!
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[] evilpeanut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthJarJar
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[] JoseWilson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereistoomuchevidence.Itcannotnotbetrue.
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[] crawsome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Win10isWindows'gagorderedNSAoperatingsystem.
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[] dastrn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwasprobablykilledbyourgovernment.
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[] melancholyswiffer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/u/lawofattraction33hasapostdetailingthe"mountainofevidence"foramassivepedophileringinsidetheU.S.Eliteandpolitico.It'sa
goodreadhttps://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/
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[] aredditgroupthinker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeJewsrunthemedia.
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[] AvionicsEE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisawellknownfact
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[] guywithdice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IonceaskedmyAmericanHistoryteacherwhichconspiracytheoryhethoughthadthemostmerit,hesaidthattheassassinationof
JohnF.Kennedyistheonehe'dliketoknowthemostabout.Isidewithhim.
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[] chiefelk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advanceknowledge_conspiracy_theory
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[] thefapningmademejoin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Really?Nooneisgonnamention9|11?Wellyourgovernmentneededacasusbelli,whethertheyknew,plannedorexecuteditdoesn't
matter,y'allgotfooledmofos
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[] QuantumEntangler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckoff
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[] SexyMuffin23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliens
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[] 300yearoldvirgin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
atleastsomeoftheJFKstuff
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[] crossingtheabyss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheEdwardSnowdenandNSAaffairisnottrueacreationofsomesort.Citizenfourappearedscripted,dramatized,and
disingenuous.Mediacoveragealsoappearsabithoaky.Itamazesmehowthemassescan'tseeitoratleastquestionitall.
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This.
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[] uwillparish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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Somepeopleoffaithdid9/11.
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[] ian807 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NicholasCageisaSithlordwhocanmeltsteelbeams.
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[] oh_its_that_dude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatmovieproducersaregivenideasoropinionstoincludeintheirmoviestochangethewaypeoplethinkaboutcertainthings
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[] zoooopa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatallthegoodpeopleleftredditforvoat.Andmostlyonlythecommunist/fascist/nazisocialistsremain.
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IsVoatnotjustFatPeopleHate?I'veneverseenVoatmentionedonhereexceptinthecontextofanewFatPeopleHate.
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No.itisafreespeechreddit
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SowasReddit,onceuponatime.
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Oh..Itisveryinterestingreadingvoatcomparedtoreddit,yougetafullspectrumopinion
AndIwanttoemphasisfulllol
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AsifRedditdidn'thaveenoughcasualracismandStormfrontonitasitis.
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Nexttimeyoudateagirlandyouchooseherbasedonherlooksageand/orweightrememberyourthat
yourtheworstoftheworst.Aselfliar.
Asianpeopleworkharderthantherest.
Blackgangstercultureisnotmyth.Theirfamilyunitisashadowofitsformerself!
Lookinthemirror,youwillseethedogooderattitudeofNaziGermany.Surprised?Ofcoursenot.Youwont
evenlook.
Remembertowritheinyourmindfilthyoumaggot.Iknowthistruthwillhurtyoubecauseyouraverybad
person.
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[] platinumarks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichoneareyou,then?
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Ican'teventellyouwithoutgettingfuckingbanned...
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[] first_time_internet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
obamaisamuslim/muslimsympathizer.noneedtodebateoverthisnowthough,onlytimewilltell.lotsoftime.
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[] JosephFinn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomeoneiskeepingBernieSandersnumbersdownaspartofaconspiracy!Ohwait,it'sjusthisnumberssuck.
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[] jennys0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheU.S.governmenthasadealwithnewscoveragestoemphasizepublictransportationdeathsaroundtheworldinordertoinflictfear
inAmericansofpublictransportationandtrains.Themorecheappublictransportationthereis,thelesspeoplewilldriveandusegas.
Thismeansallofthatgoodol'USgaswehaveyettotapped,willbeuselessin80yearsfromnowwhentherestoftheworldhasgone
awayfromoil.
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[] Shogo1307 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyconspiracytheoryhasthepotentialtobetrue,italldependsonhowopenmindedyouare,canthesourceexplainhis/herfindings
andortheory,evenifthefactsarenot100%flushedoutdidthesourceatleastprovideareasonforyoutodoubtthecurrent
informationonthetheory.
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[] pitilesscensor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFK,9/11,MoonLandings,Vaccines,Chemtrails
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[] IeatInternet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] welp42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GooglepurposefullymakesitsbrowserservicesnotworkinnonChromebrowsersbecausetheywanteveryonetouseChrome,evenif
theydon'tsaysooutright.
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[] platinumarks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenthey'redoingithorribly,becausetheonlywaythatIcanuseGoogleVoicewithinGMail(asopposedtoHangouts,whichI
extremelydislike)istouseanybrowserexceptChrome.OnChrome,itsimplywon'tletyoudialphonesifyouhaveChromeanddon't
installHangouts.
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[] welp42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Addendum:Googleservicesstillwon'tworkunlessyouinstallthem,thusinvolvingitselfdeeperintoyourcomputer(andlife).
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[] johnbanken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Themoonlanding"
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[] HITLERS_SEX_PARTY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LBJhadKennedywhacked.
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[] tehkyle5k undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinktheplanethatcrashedinPennsylvaniaon9/11wasshotdown.
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[] scaredofstorms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagree.Rumsfeldsaidthatinaveryearlypressconference.
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[] khelanrafe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] somecow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Almostalltheconfidentialshitisfake.(I'dtellyouwhy,butthat'sonaneedtoknowbasis).
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[] thepaulm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InAmerica,wehave"sports"sponsoredbybeerandsnackcompanies.Youarenotsupposedto"playsports",youaresupposedto
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"consumesports",justlikeyourchipsandbeer.Itissupposedtobecooltositaroundwithyourbudsandwatchsportsanddrinkbeers.
It'skindofobvious,buttheentirepurposeistoallowyoutogetyouraggressionsandhumaninteractionsoutwhilestayingathomeand
consumingthings.
Ifyouactuallywentoutsideandplayedsomesportswiththem,thatwouldbebadforjustabouteverybody(exceptyouandyour
friends).
Theunintendedconsequencesofthisarethatpeopleliketohavebigparadesthatturnintoviolentriotsforbigwins/losses(pentup
energy/aggression).Nobodyhasfuckingriotinthestreetswhentheteamtheyactuallyplayonhasabigwin(orloss).
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[] hamlet9000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeorgeW.Bush'sgrandfatherwaspartofafascistconspiracytoassassinatethePresidentoftheUnitedStates.
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[] Meech_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11.
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[] _rome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatRedditisactuallyrunbytenpeoplenotincludingOPandme.
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Thatallpeopleonreddittotalon10peopleinludingOPandI.
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[] kazmtron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That9/11wasafalseflagoperationdesignedtoscarethepopulationandallowforastateofperpetualwar/fear..
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[] black_tangent undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheRussian'swerebehindtheassassinationofJFK.
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[] Darky_the_Salamander undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ALLOFTHEM
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[] motone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavetosaythat9/11isprobablyatthetopofmylist.14yearslaterandIstillcan'twrapmyheadaroundhowthiscouldhavebeen
anythingotherthananinsidejob.
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Iusedtothinkthat,untilIrealizedthegovtisfartooincompetenttopullitoff.
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Nope,nottooincompetenttomonitoreveryone'sphonecallsandemailsfortenyearswithoutbeingfoundout,nottooincompetent
topullofftheManhattanProject,orhidetheGulfOfTonkinincidentfordecades.
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[] sean7755 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RobSchneiderpicksupMexicansfrominfrontofHomeDepotandpaysthemtochokehimintheshower.
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[] PerryLJackson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatIthinkisreallystrangeisthatthiswasreferencedontwoTVshows:FamilyGuyandMyNameIsEarl.I'msureitwassomein
jokebetweenthem,butstill...curious
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WhatepisodeofEarlwasthisin?Idon'trememberit.
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[] Deeliciousness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thissummer,RobSchneideris...asexualdeviant!
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[] hickfield undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcandoit!
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[] BoringPersonAMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestlythisistheonlyonethatsoundsreallyplausibletome.
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[] CySurflex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Occam'sRazor.
Appliestoeverysinglethinginthisthread.
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[] gwolf100 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotentirelyunconvincedthattheCIAmighthavebeencomplicitincreatingacrackepidemicintheUS
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[] vodka_titties undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notaconspiracy,thiswasproventobetrue.
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[] JohnnyBlaze402 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LookupFreewayRickRoss.
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[] Zolome1977 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthatwasshowntobetrue?
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[] specialtaco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Useyourquestionmarksproperly.Thatwasastatement,notaquestion.Thatisall.
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[] SHPLUMBO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SaiditlasttimeandI'llsayitagain,thegovernmentandthemafiakilledJFKincoldblood.
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[] devonmcb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CorporationsdictateAmericangovernment.
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Notconspiracy,provable.
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[] devonmcb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PleaseproveitsothatAmericanscanunderstandit.
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[] Jamorelolol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FlightTWA800wasn'tcausedbyaninternalignitioninafuelcell.
TheNationalTransportationSafetyBoardhasbeenthefirstontheaceneandbeentheprimaryconductorofeverymajorflight
catastropheexceptTWA800.InthiscaseFBIandCIAwerelitteredineveryinvestigationreport.Alsoastudywasthrownoutthe
windowbecauseitdidn'tsupporttheciaorfbi'sconclusioninsteadofthestudybeingdoneandaconclusionhappeningafter.They
destroyedevidenceandreallytriedtodeleteeverythingthattheNTSBtriedtomakesenseof.
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Ohyaandanyonewithsomecommonsenseofphysicsknowsthatanimationof"whathappened"iscompletebs.
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[] Eokpar1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoyouthinkhappened?Bombonboardormissile?
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[] Jamorelolol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Missile.Pilotsandhundredsofeyewitnessesfromdifferentanglesandlocationssaytheysawsomethingcomefromthesea.Either
navelaccidentortheyreallywantedsomeonedeadonthatplane.I'mleaningtowardsaccident.
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Idon'tknowifitwasshotdownintentionally,butit'sprettyclearthatitwasamissle.
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Yea,iagree.TheFBIbeinginvolvedclincheditformethatitwasanaccidentalmissilestrikefromasubmarinedoingan
exercise.
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[] Happydrumstick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatjetfuelmeltssteelbeams
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[] Squatch28 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JfkwasprobablykilledbytheCIA.Oswaldwastheloneshooterhiredbythembecausejfkwasabouttoexposehugesecretsthat
wouldhaveexposedsomepeopleinpower.Oreitheranassassinationwouldbringtogetheranationbetterthanapresidentslowly
dying.
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[] animenut30 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
okithinkweallwentoutofboundswiththequestion................ithinkthetheoryofourveryowngovernmentwasandstillisbehindthe
killingofJFK
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[] zaturama015 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11,JohnLennon,JFK,MLKwereallinsidejobs
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[] Zepher2228 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyhadKurtkilled
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[] Dindu_Muffins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sixmilliondidn'treallydie.
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Burn!(Nopunintended)
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[] mantrap2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUnitedStatesissupplyingarmsandsuppliestoISISandalQaedawhileclaimingtheyarefightingboth.
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[] _wicky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IpersonallybelievethatUSAmericansareunabletolocatetheUSonaworldmapbecausesomepeopleoutthereinournationdont
havemapsandIbelievethatoureducationlikesuchasinSouthAfricaandtheIraqandeverywherelikesuchas,andIbelievethat
theyshould,oureducationoverhereintheUS,shouldhelptheUSorshouldhelpSouthAfricaandshouldhelpIraqandtheAsian
countries,sowewillbeabletobuildupourfuture...forourchildren
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[] ManaRegen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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[] Gothic_Banana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Deargod.Sothat'swhySCisleadinginthenationforteenpregnancy.
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[] ExpansiveAcorn7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididn'tknowbeautypagentcontestantshadredditaccounts.
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[] dnstuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bro..What?Howmuchhaveyouhadtodrinktonight?
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[] Throw4awayporn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovethis
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[] Unknownirish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Runonsentenceneedswork.
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[] cam5478 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thattookmeasecond
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[] Yogerf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everysensibleconspiracytheory?
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[] rrrrickman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bengahzi,Foster,she'saclosetcarpetmuncher.
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[] KeeperOfSkyChickens undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BerensteinBears.
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[] Errorless undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WeallthoughtitwastheBerensteinBears,untilwefoundoutitwastheBerenSTAINbears.Lifeisalie.
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[] CyFus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InterviewwithAvampire
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[] youreacigarette undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InterviewwithAvampire
Whaaaaaat?Whatjusthappened?InterviewwithTHEvampire?That'snothowIrememberit?Didyoujustchangethewhole
internettomesswithme?
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Therealityyourememberisn'tthesameas"now".Timeflowsinparallellines/worldsandwhiletheyareverysimilarthereare
subtledifferences.Sometimesyoucrossoverwhenonebecomesunstablebuttheresidueoftheothersticksinthemind.It
seemsimpossiblebutmyworkingtheoryisbasedonquantumimmortality.Thewholeexperenceofthisrealityisbasedona
collectivethoughtwaveprojectingandtuningthephysicalworld.Sometimesthecollectivethoughtbeginstopointtoward
universaldestructionandadecisionismadeonaspirtualleveltoshifttheconsiousexperencetowardamorestablereality.
Mostpeoplearephilosophicalzombiesandsimplyadjusttowhateverbecomes"normal".TheTVhasaverysharpeffecton
defineingtheconsiousnessforalargepercentofthepopulationbutthereisaminorityofpeoplewhoresisttheflow.Manyof
thembecomeunstableand"crazy"becausetheycannotidentifytheiregolossduringthetransitionbutthemoreyoubecome
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mutablyawarethebetteroffyouwillbe.
/r/glitch_in_the_matrix
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[] czarcastic719 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NicolasCageiscompletelyunawarethatheisanactor.Allheknowsisstrangemenwithcamerasfollowhimaroundwhilehegetsinto
crazysituationsandmoneyshowsuprandomlyinhisbankaccount.
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[] SilverStackerGuy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcan'tmeltdankmemes.
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[] Tiervexx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cat'sdomesticatedus,nottheotherwayaround.
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Amcat.Canconfirm.
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[] ButtonPoppa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenypdgivesaccesstoLawandOrderandinexchangeLawandOrdernevershowsaguyrunfromthecopsandnotgetpinned
downimmediately.Tostoppeoplefromthinkingtheycanoutrunthecops.
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[] fratstache undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dankmemescan'tmeltsteelbeams.
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[] manlymany undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarBinksissecretlyaSithLordanditwillberevealedinthenewStarWarsmovies.
I'mnotmakingthisup,ifyoudon'tbelievemelookatthealltimetopupvotedposton/r/starwars:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
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[] commandercody209 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbeliveoneconspiracythatisproblytrueistheassassinationofjfkandLincoln
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[] Midnight_Misery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoondoesn'texist.
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[] Nerklez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwanttobelievethatthecreatorsbehindinternetvirusesareactuallythecompanieswhosellantimalwaresoftware.It'saneverending
circle.
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[] Quarter_Twenty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
'FullRangeofCollusion'BetweenBigOilandTTIPTradeReps
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[] remedialrob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Globalwarming...sadly.
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[] splityoassintwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeams(jkofcitcan)
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[] NeonGreenTV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Delawaredoesnotexist,IliveinMarylandandIhaveneverbeenthere,IhavenevermetapersonfromDelawareandIhavenever
seenaDelawarelicenseplate.Butfromothersurroundingstates?Virginia,NewJersey,NorthCarolina,Pennsylvania,yes.But
Delaware?No.
IhaveatheorythatDelawareistheretomesswithus,forsomereasonIcan'tputmyfingeron.ButIbelievewitha"state"thatsmallon
amapit'sjustabigsecretmilitarybasehidingaliens,ancienttechnology,andpowerfulfuturistictopsecretmilitaryweaponry.Andthat
anyonewhowouldeverclaimtoyouthattheyarefromDelawarearejustactorshiredtokeeptheillusionup.
AlsoIbelieveBaltimoreisabizarrofutureversionofD.C.thatsplitoffbutsomehowisacknowledgeinthesamereality.
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That'swheremostofthecorporationsare(virtually).
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I'vebeenthere.Itisterrible.
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Samehere.It'sterrible.
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InDenver,ColoradotheairportDIA(denverinternationalairport)beingrunbytheIlluminati.Idon'tbeliveintheilluminatibutifyoulook
atthemuralspaintedaroundandthebluebroncowithDevileyesandthewaytherailsaresetupandhowfardowntheygoishella
creepy.
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jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeams
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Notaconspiracytheory....Peoplearefreetothinkforthemselves
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TheTheoryofEvolution(bynaturalselection)
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TheUnitedStatesgovernmentisactuallycontrolledbycorporations,throughamixtureoflegalbribes,amediathatdiscouragesreal
politicaldiscussionsothatthevotingbasecanbeinfluencedbytheadmoneyfromthoselegalbribes,andwagesforourelected
officialsthataremuchlowerthanwhatlobbyistsmake,sothatourelectedofficialscanbebribedbynicelobbyingjobsifthey"play
nice."JustlookatourmostmajoraccomplishmentinthepastdecadeObamacare.Veryfewindustrieslostmoneyonthismore
peopleenrolledmorethanmadeupforthenewrequirementsforhealthinsurance,bigpharmagetstosellpillstomorepeople,
hospitalsgetlesspeoplethatcan'tpay,andtheU.S.stillpaysmoreformedicalcarethananyothernation.
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TheUnitedStatesgovernmentisactuallycontrolledbycorporations,throughamixtureoflegalbribeslobbying
FTFY
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that'snottheory,it'sfact
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(Insurancecarriersaren'tdoingwellintheexchanges.)[http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2015/11/23/lossesfromacaproducts
unitedhealthcare.html]
Idon'thavealink,butObamaandRhamjustpressuredAsst.Sec.BorzitoapprovegovernmentrunopenMEPsandmakethemvery
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specialfromatrustcreationstandpoint.It'sgoingtoreallyharmprivateretirementMEPs.
Thegovisalsoscrewinguphedgefunds,insomecircuits,byjeapordizingtheveryviabilityofthebusinessmodelviaanabsurd
manipulationofcontrolgrouprules.
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ThrowinALECandI'min.
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I'mgoingtoplacemyconspiracytheoryunderthis.TheBusinessPlotendedupsucceeding,justcarriedoutslowly.
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Yes,wearejustafew"freetradeagreements"awayfromTheBusinessPlotsucceedinginternationally.InWalmartwetrust.
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That'sbasicallyafactisitnot?Idotthinkanyoneisundertheimpressionthewhitehouseisbasicallyamonetarypoliceforceofsorts
thatkeepstheworldfrombeinganalloutfreeforall.
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Prettymuch.JustfollowthemoneywhodonatedtoeachCongressperson'scampaignduringthedraftingofObamacare?Who's
lobbyistsmetwiththem?Iwouldevengosofarastosaythisisn'taconspiracyatallthere'senoughprooftosuggestthatthisis
almostcertainlyafact
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RudolfDiesel
It'snottechnicallyafact,butthereisdefinitelymorefactsthatsupportitthannot.
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r/pyongyangisajoke.IknowitsoundscrazybutIdon'tthinkthere50,243friendsoftheDPRKwhohaveaccesstoreddit.
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TheU.S.Publisher'sClearingHousesweepstakesisjustascamtodevelopadatabaseoftheDNAofpeoplesillyenoughtolick
stampsfortoentertheircontests.
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AlltheonesIbelievein,
exceptthey'renotcalled"theories".
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Idohopeyou'renotreferringtoevolution
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That'satheory,right?
Likegravity.
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Wait?Gravityisathing?
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Yea,manit'sprettyheavy
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StevieWondercansee
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Moderngovernmentisnolongeraboutthepeoplebutratherthoseinpower,stayinginpower?
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911&Kennedy
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Volkswagenliesabouttheemissionsintheircarstogivehigherperformancewhileshowinglowerpollutantsthanareactuallyemitted.
Theydoitthroughtheonboardcomputers.
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ObamawasborninKenya
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Thatthegovernmentismonitoringallofourcommunications.
Ohwait,thatturnedouttobetrue?Wellshit....howaboutthatthegovernmentcommitsactsofterrorismtojustifymilitaryaction.
YoumeanOperationNorthwoodsprovedthattobetruetoo?!Wellshit,whatabout9/11specifically?
No,you'rejustacrazyconspiracytheoristtoimaginethatourgovernmentwoulddothat,despitehavingevidencethattheyhadplansto
dotheexactsamethingduringtheCubanMissileCrisis.Surelyitsnottrue,youfuckingnutjob.
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TherepublicansarepurposefullybeingattentiongrabbingjackassesbecausetheirsidereallywantsClintontowin.Shewasa
republicantillshemarriedBill,evenbeingheadofsomerepublicangroupincollege,anddoesn'tseemveryfarleftexceptforwomen's
rightsandguns.Mostotherthings,she'sbeenpushedfurtherleftbysocietyandBernie,"evolving"herviewstomaintainelectability
whilestayinginthepocketsofbanks,wallst,timeWarner,etc.TherightseesthatthemorepeoplelookatBernie,hisplan,andthe
growthofhisfollowingthemorepeoplewilljoinhim.Sowhatmakesheadlinesanddistractspeople?"Trumpsayssomethingracist"
"Carsonthinkspyramidsareforgrain?""Trumpmockshandicapped"Whilepeoplecouldbecomparingandcontrastingthefrontrunners
forthedemocrats,they'retalkingaboutthosemorons.
Itfeelsorchestratedtome,espwiththeantiBerniebiasthemediahasobviouslyhad.
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Youstillthinkthere'sa"left"and"right"inpolitics?Lol
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Ithinkyou'reright,butIthinkit'sbecausetheRNCinsidersknowthatanothereconomicdisasteriscomingsoontoacountrynearyou
andtheydon'twanttobeinpowerwhenithappens.
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Bushdid9/11
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FrenchsoldiersshotdowntheRwandanPresident'splanein1994thatstartedtheRwandangenocidebecausetheywantedto
preserveRwandaasaFrenchspeakingcountry.
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WhynotKagame?WhydotheFrenchcareaboutsuchashittylittleAfricancountry?
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OJ'ssondidit.
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Tamponscontainchemicalsthathavelongtermeffectsofcausinglongerandmorebloodyperiods.
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steviewonderisn'treallyblindhewaspretendingasajokebutnowhe'sintoodeepandhastorollwithit.
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SecretserviceagentbehindJFKgotstartledandaccidentallyshothim.Apposedto"magicbullet"theory.
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MonsantoandNestleareinherentlyevil,inasmuchasanyorganizationcanbe.Thestriponrazorscausesacneonpurpose,soyou
mustbuyaftershave.
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NewZealandisn'treal.
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ThenwheredoallthesepeoplewithfunnyaccentsinBrisbanecomefrom?
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PutinalmostcertainlyorchestratedtheRussianApartmentBombings.
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IfeltforyearsthattheMonopolygameswereriggedfromtheinside.
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ITT:idiots.
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thatbushdidtitanic.
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ThefactthatwhenpeoplearegivengoldanonomouslyonReddititsnotreallyRedditusersitsjustRedditadminstryingtomakethe
communitylookbetterandnicerthantheyreallyare
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Othersbesidestheterroristswereawareofthe9/11plot
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StevieWonderisnotblind.https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/2n4ic2/til_there_are_stevie_wonder_truthers_people_that/
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wavesfistSTEELBEAMS!!!!!
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Picturesofkittensmaketheinternetworthsurfing.9/11wasaninsidejob.
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Readithereawhileago.
Theideathatthebikinibottomcharactersaremutatedcreaturesfromnucleartestingintheisland(s)ofbikiniatoll
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Oprahisahugelesbian
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JETFUELDOESNTMELTSTEELBEAMS
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Right,onlyfiredoes.
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Also,can'tkeepsteelinamoltenstateforanydurationoftime.
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Mudshapedcorrectlyandcoalfromagrillwill.
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TheU.S.governmentshotdownthefinalplaneon9/11.Itjustmakeswaytomuchsense,sadly.
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Thatismybeliefalso.Idon'tthinkitwassomeevilconspiracy,itisjustwhathappened.
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Yup,itneededdonetoprotectthewhitehouse.Andthenewsreportedthepeopleontheplanefoughtbacksotheybecamethe
heroes.
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Ifeeltherecordingsofthemlookingtostormthecockpitwasnotafabrication.Theywereheroesinthesamesensetheair
forcepilotsthathadtodotheirjob.Thepassengerstorycan'tbetoldandthepilotsthathadtopullthetriggeralsocan'ttell
theirstory.
Iamhopingin30yearsitwillbedeclassified.Themadnessofthatdayneedstofullybetold.IfIwasthePresidentonthat
dayandwasconfrontedwiththethirdaircraft,Iwouldhavegiventheorderandwouldnotsleepapeacefulnightafterdoing
so.
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AmajorwhistleblowerintheIraqnothavingWMDwasfounddeadofaheartattackinthemiddleofnowhereinacornfield.Myguess
ishehadalittlehelphavingthatheartattack.
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Alienswalkamongus.It'swhywe'refinallyseeingan'XFiles'movienextyear!
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IonlyknowofoneJFKassassinationtheorythatmakessense.Theproblemwithnearlyallthetheoriesisthequestionofwhostoodto
gainbyhisdeath.Whenallissaidandnone,noonebenefitted.Yes,Johnsontookhisplace,buttherewasnoideologicalshiftafter
Johnsontookoffice.Johnsonwasegotistical,butnotsoegotisticalthathewouldhavekilledJFKjusttobepresident.Hehatedhis
brotherRobert,butnotJFK.
However,ifpeoplethoughttherewouldhavebeenabigchangewithJohnson,that'sadifferentstory.Likemanysouthernersin
Congress,JohnsonhadobstructedCivilRights.
AretiredFBIagentisconvincedthataconspiracyofwhitesupremacistswasresponsible,andtheOswaldhadnothingtodowithit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM
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Isawonethatsaiditwasanaccidentaldischargefromoneofthesecretserviceagents,Icantrecalltheexacttheory,butitseemedto
makesense.
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ThereportwiththeinterviewofhisFBImanhasawiretaprecordingoftwosuspects,MilteerandSomerset,beforetheshooting.
"Allthosegunscomeknockeddownandyoucantakethemapart."
"BoyifKennedy'sgettingshot,we'vegottoknowwherewe'reat."
"Hell,they'llpickupsomebodyupwithinthehoursafterjusttothrowthepublicoff."
TheFBImaninsistsKennedywasshotinthethroatfromsomeoneonfrontofhim.Sodidthedoctorwhodidttheautopsy.He
supportsthewellknowngrassyknollshooteridea.
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SometimeswhenImakeanegativecommentaboutisisorsaudiarabiaIinitiallyamhitwithabarrageofdownvotesthenlatermy
commentissuddenlyhighlyupvoted.Idon'tknowwhattobelieve
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Thatthereisasecretspaceprogramandweareactuallyintouchwandtradewmanydifferentalienraces.P.s:checkoutDavid
wilcockandgetyourmindopenedwideup)
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lol
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tobehonestitwouldn'tsurprisemeiftherewerebattleshipsofsomevarietyoutinspaceofall/mostthesuperpowers..
It'sillegaltohaveweaponsinspace,sotheymustbedoingit.
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howoldareyoutobethisignorant?
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I'mnotsuggestingtherearestarwarslevelbattleshipsoutthere...
Howeversincethe80'sithasbeenillegaltobuildwarmachinesinspace.Thegovernmentsoftodaybarelytrusteach
othertoworktogetherrightnowandtheirparanoiahasneverbeenhigher.
Stealthtechnologywasdevelopedinthe80sandisnowrelativallywellunderstood.
Nasahasbeenpracticallydismantledandnobodycaresascommercialspaceflightisnowdonebyunmanned
commercialcommoditizedcorporations.
AreyouseriouslytryingtotellmethatthereisnotmoreouttherethanwealreadyknowandyesIwouldgoasfarasto
saythatwhateverisoutthere,breaksthoseconventions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X37
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Typicalconspiracytheoristunscientificdrivel.I'mnotsureifthereisotherintelligentlifeoutthere,butiamsure
thereisn'tsomemassiveconspiracyinvolvingalltheworld'sleaderstohideitfromtheworld.Andpleasestop
parroting"it'sillegaltobuildwarmachinesinspace"asifithasanythingtodowithwhatyou'retalkingabout.
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nah,Ijustbelieveit'salotmoreadvancedthanyouthink,soultimatelytheskyisthelimit.
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Mytakeonitwasthewholecoldwarwasafronttoterrorizethemajoreconomiesoftheworldtofunneluntoldtrillionsof
dollarsintosecret(literal)undergroundprojects.Inthenameofpreventinganuclearwar(nevergoingtohappen)wheninfact
itwastocreateadvancedspacetechnology,partnuclear,mostlysecret(area51isntalienitsjustahorriblenuclear
wasteland).AlloftheUFOsweseearenotalien,theyareadvancedhumancraftandtherearehundredsofdeadmenin
space.ThelastofthevisibleadvancedtechfromNASA(apollo/spaceshuttle)endedinthelate70s.ThesaturnVplanswere
destroyedandspacetechwasartificallysupresedtothesurfacepopulation.Meanwhilewhatwethinkofassatellitetechand
routinelaunchestodayisactuallybuildingalargerobotpoweredpresenceintomostofthesolarsystem.Forinstancethe
nuclearpoweredairforceminidroneshuttleisprobably30+yearsold
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EverheardofSolarWarden?
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Notallloftheufosareusearthlings,butalot.Therearealsohumansthatarenotfromhere
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justtoclarifyyoumeanthis?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X37
Ionlyjustreadyourcommentafterreadingminelol.
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NoI'mtalkingaboutSolarWarden
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putsonflightofthevalcuriesonrepeatthisisgoingtobeashitshow
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Valkyries
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loisvoice9........11
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Shakespeareneverexisted.
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Thisisactuallyasuprisinglycommontheory,andhasbeenattimesacceptedasthetruthbecauseofthedifferentstylesthatallofhis
playshave,andsomeassumethatthefactthathealwayswriesiniambicpentameterleadspeopletobelievethatasecretgroupwas
allcombiningtobecome"shakespeare"andwerefollowingaguidelinetoalloftheirplays.Ipersonallysuspectofthistheorybecause
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empiricalevidence.
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Powerfulandwealthypeoplecometogetherandhavethesimiliaragendaformorepowerandwealth.Neverunderstoodwhythisis
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Theyalreadydothat,butnotinthewayyou'reprobablythinking.
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Theamericangovernmentdid9/11
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ThattheFoodPyramidwasoriginallydevelopedwithafocuson'refined/processed'grains(68servings)notbecauseofthehealth
benefitsbutbecausetheypaid(donated)themostmoney.
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Theretroencabulatorisreal
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Undertakerssecretlyharvestyourdentalgoldduringtheembalmingprocess.
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Lateashell,butUFOsarerealandaliensareplausible:
ASTRONAUTS
"Ibelievethattheseextraterrestrialvehiclesandtheircrewsarevisitingthisplanetfromotherplanetswhichobviouslyarealittle
moretechnicallyadvancedthanwearehereonEarth."
ColonelGordonCooper,Mercury&GeminiAstronaut
"IhappentobeprivilegedenoughtobeinonthefactthatwehavebeenvisitedonthisplanetandtheUFOphenomenonisreal.It
hasbeencoveredupbygovernmentsforquitesometimenow."
CaptainEdgarMitchell,Apollo14Astronaut
"...I'vebeenasked[aboutUFOs]andI'vesaidpubliclyIthoughtthey[UFOs]weresomebodyelse,someothercivilization."
AstronautEugeneCernan,Apollo17Commander
"IwastestingaP51fighterinMinneapoliswhenIspottedthisobject.[...]Itlookedlikeasaucer,adisk.Aboutthesametime,I
realizedthatitwassuddenlygoingawayfrommeandthereIwas,runningatabout300milesperhour.Itrackeditforalittleway,
andthenallofasuddenthedamnthingjusttookoff.Itpulledabouta45degreeclimbingturnandacceleratedandjustflat
disappeared."
CaptainDonaldSlayton,MercuryAstronaut
"Fornearly50years,thesecrecyapparatuswithintheUnitedStatesGovernmenthaskeptfromthepublicUFOandaliencontact
information.""Wehavecontactwithaliencultures."
AstronautDr.BrianO'Leary
NASA,CIA,ARMY,AIRFORCEETC
"Unknownobjectsareoperatingunderintelligentcontrol...ItisimperativethatwelearnwhereUFOscomefromandwhattheir
purposeis...""Behindthescenes,highrankingAirForceofficersaresoberlyconcernedabouttheUFOs.Butthroughofficial
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secrecyandridicule,manycitizensareledtobelievethatunknownflyingobjectsarenonsense."
AdmiralRoscoeHillenkoetter,firstDirectoroftheCIA,19471950
"Wehadajobtodo,wetherrightorwrong,tokeepthepublicfromgettingexcited."
Dr.J.AllenHynek,ScientificconsultantforAirForceProjectBlueBook
"OfcourseUFOsarereal,andtheyareinterplanetary.ThecumulativeevidencefortheexistenceofUFOsisquiteoverwhelming
andIacceptthefactoftheirexistence."
AirChiefMarshallLordHughDowding,CommandingOfficeroftheRoyalAirForceduringWWII
"Wemustinsistuponfullaccesstodisksrecovered.Forinstance,intheLacasetheArmygrabbeditandwouldnotletushaveit
forcursoryexamination."
J.EdgarHoover,firstDirectoroftheFBI
"This'flyingsaucer'situationisnotatallimaginaryorseeingtoomuchinsomenaturalphenomena.Somethingisreallyflying
around.Thephenomenonissomethingrealandnotvisionaryorfictitious."
GeneralNathanTwining,USAirForce,ChairmanoftheJointChiefsofStaff19551958
"UnidentifiedFlyingObjectsareenteringouratmosphereatveryhighspeedsandobviouslyunderintelligentcontrol.Wemustsolve
thisriddlewithoutdelay."
RearAdmiralDelmarFahrney,USNR
ROCKETSCIENTISTS&PHYSICISTS
"Itismythesisthatflyingsaucersarerealandthattheyarespaceshipsfromanothersolarsystem.Thereisnodoubtinmymind
thattheseobjectsareinterplanetarycraftofsomesort.Iandmycolleaguesareconfidentthattheydonotoriginateinoursolar
system."
Dr.HermannOberth,the"fatherofmodernrocketry"
"IamcompletelyconvincedthatUFOshaveanoutofworldbasis."
Dr.WaltherRiedel,chiefdesignerandresearchdirectorattheGermanrocketcenterinPeenemunde
"Theleastimprobableexplanationisthatthesethingsareartificialandcontrolled...Myopinionforsometimehasbeenthatthey
haveanextraterrestrialorigin."
Dr.MauriceBiot,leadingaerodynamicistsandmathematicalphysicist
SOVIET/U.S.PRESIDENTS
"ThephenomenonofUFOsisreal.Iknowthattherearescientificorganisationswhichstudytheproblem.Itmustbetreated
seriously."
SovietPresidentMikhailGorbachev
"Icanassureyouthatflyingsaucers,giventhattheyexist,arenotconstructedbyanypoweronearth."
PresidentHarryS.Truman
"Idon'tlaughatpeopleanymorewhentheysaythey'veseenUFOs.ItwasthedarndestthingI'veeverseen.Itwasbig,itwasvery
bright,itchangedcolorsanditwasaboutthesizeofthemoon.Wewatcheditfortenminutes,butnoneofuscouldfigureoutwhat
itwas."
PresidentJimmyCarter
"Ilookedoutthewindowandsawthiswhitelight.Itwaszigzaggingaround.Iwentuptothepilotandsaid,haveyoueverseen
anythinglikethat?Hewasshockedandhesaid,"Nope."...WefollowedittoBakersfield,andallofasuddentoourutter
amazementitwentstraightupintotheheavens.WhenIgotofftheplaneItoldNancyallaboutit."
"Ioccasionallythinkhowquicklyourdifferencesworldwidewouldvanishifwewerefacinganalienthreatfromoutsideofthisworld."
PresidentRonaldReagan
Anyoneiswelcometoprovideevidencethataquoteislegitimatelyoutofcontext,andIwillremoveit.
Allcreditto/u/Alx__forcompilingthese.Sourcescanbefoundathttp://spaceflare.net.Manyareonvideo,incontext.For
example,AstronautGordonCooper.
Itisrecognizedthatquotesarenotproof.However:
ThereiscompellingevidencethatUFOsarephysicalphenomena,notimaginaryorhallucinatory.Theyarecapturedonradar
thatonlydetectsphysicalobjects,andperformfeatsnotexplainablebyknownphysics.
95%ofsightingscanbeexplainedbyknownphenomena,butabout5%cannot.
Source:TheCOMETAReport(publishedfortheFrenchGovernmentbytheInstituteforHigherNationalDefenseStudies):
Part1:http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/COMETA_part1.pdf
Part2:http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/COMETA_part2.pdf
Let'sfollowtheargument:
1. Categorizationofphenomenaas"cannotbeidentifieddespitetheabundanceandqualityofthedata"45%ofallreported
casesfitthiscategory
2. Radar/visualcasescompriseabout20%ofthistypeofsightingover500casesintotal.
3. Conclusionsinclude:
theprescientopeningsentencethat"TheUFOproblemcannotbeeliminatedbymerecausticandoffhandwitticisms."
the"almostcertainphysicalrealityofcompletelyunknownflyingobjectswithremarkableflightperformancesandnoiselessness,
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apparentlyoperatedbyintelligent[beings]."
"secretcraftdefinitelyofEarthlyorigincanonlyexplainaminorityofcases."
"Theextraterrestrialhypothesis...certainlyhasnotbeencategoricallyproven,butstrongpresumptionsexistinitsfavorandifitis
correct,isloadedwithimplications."
Regardingphysicalevidence
Listofphysicaltracecases(totallyworthaglance)
Physicaltracecasesandarticlesaboutthem
Thereislittletonophysicalevidence,otherthantraces,likeevidenceofexposuretohighpoweredelectromagneticfieldsingrass
wherecraftaresaidtohavelanded.However,thetraceevidenceisveryinteresting.
Radarevidence
http://www.nicap.org/whatradar.htm
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc614.htm
UFOsdefyknownphysics:
"Objecttrackedonmultipleradarflyingat5,000+MPH"(alsomaking90degreeturnsonecaseofmany)
IfUFOsweresecretgovernmentaircraft,scientistswouldhavehadtodiscovernewlawsofphysicsthatwouldendtheenergycrisis.
Generalresources:
UFOevidence.comAverythoroughresourceonUFOevidenceofallkinds,includingscientificstudies,reports,andtestimonyfromall
sectorsoflife.
Agreatbookonthetopic(veryobjectiveandrational):"UFOs:Generals,Pilots,andGovernmentOfficialsGoontheRecord"byLeslie
Kean
FAQ
"Thegovernmentwouldn't/couldn'tcoveritup."TheUSgovernmentdidn'tacknowledgetheexistenceofArea51untillastyear.
Theydon'tneedtokeepitsecretifnobodybelievesitanyway.
"Whywouldaliensbeinterestedinus?"We'reinterestedinbugsandbacteriaandatoms.Nothingistoosmallorinsignificantfor
ourinterest,sobeinginterestedseemstobeasignofintelligence.Whywouldn'ttheybeinterestedinus?
"Thedistancesbetweenstarsistoolarge"Acivilizationcouldbeameremillionyearsolderthanusandhavemadephysics
breakthroughswecan'tevenimagine.Itwouldbeunscientifictoassumethereissolittlelefttodiscoveraboutfasterthanlighttravel.
"Iftheymadeithere,they'reclearlymoreadvanced.Whydon'ttheykillus?"Perhapsamoreadvancedcivilizationis,well
morecivil.
[moretobeaddedlater]
EvidenceofUFOsiscompellingtotheextentthattodenytheirexistenceistantamounttosciencedenial.Earneststudyofavailable
informationmakesitimpossibletocomeawaywiththeimpressionthattheycouldbefictitiousorhallucinatory.Whilethiscommentis
justanintroduction,itincludessourcesthatcanbeexploredtosatisfyanydoubts.
WhilethereisnocompellingevidencethatUFOsarealien,itremainsasensiblehypothesis.
MUCHMOREhere:
http://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/wtabz/computer_hacker_gary_mckinnon_has_no_choice_but/c5gbmqz
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IliketherumorthatJamesForrestal'sfailedmentalhealthandensuingsuicideresultedfromlearningthetruthaboutaliensandbeing
unabletoreconcilethattruthwithhisreligiousfaith.Thetypicalexplanationsaboutlosinghisjobassecretaryofdefenseor
assassinationbyproIsraeliinterestsaremoreprobable,butthealienthingalwayshasseemedlikethekindofthingthatcould
overwhelmsomeone.
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Thisisverywelldone!I'msavingitforlater
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Metoo!!
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[] Trouble_Starter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theoneaboutyourmomsuckyourdadsdirtydickandthenshewentintoyourroomtokissyougoodnight.
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[] arenyk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomebranchofthegovernmentwasinvolvedinJFKsassassination.
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[] EasyReader undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DinosaursweremadeupbytheCIAtodiscouragetimetravel.
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ThatwouldonlymakepeopleMOREencouraged.
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[] JeromeW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
encourage
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[] dickbuttslayer9000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gtfo
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[] willlangford undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwewenttothemoon.
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[] pbsun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditwascreatedtokeepusfromdoinganythingsomewhatproductiveinlife
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[] PixAlan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wellIt'sdoingafantasticjobforsure.
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[] ashcroftt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howisthisaconspiracy?
Wasn'teveryonenotifiedalready?
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I'dbelieveit.
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[] JTurner30 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndyKaufmanisorchestratingTrump'spresidentialbid.
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AlienswerefoundatRoswill....Imeancomeon
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[] Lordfarquad96 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peoplewhoarehigharereallyjustsober.Andeveryonewhoissoberisreallyjusthigh.
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Wegethighoffairandweedistheonlythingthatcansoberyouupforacouplehours?
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[] Lordfarquad96 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
We'rebornHighandthepeoplewhohaven'tdiscoveredhowtogetsobertellustobepolite,geteducations,jobsetc.
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brainpoof
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You'retoohighman.
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[] Freholly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obamaisworkingforthegovernment!!Iwarnedyou
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[] Shinobininjamaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lizardpeople.Definitelylizardpeople.
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[] le_petit_dejeuner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Flight93wasprobablyshotdownandtheydecidednottoadmittoitbecausepeoplestartedsayingthepassengerswereheroes
Famouspeoplewhosaythewrongthingsareprobablydiscreditedbybeingpoisonedinsuchawaythattheyactbizarrelyandloseall
credibility
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definitelylizardpeople
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[] cha614 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Insidejob
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[] neric05 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/atheismisaparodysubreddit,constructedbytheChristiancommunity,asameansofdiscouragingchildrenfrombecomingatheists.
Contentpostedbythisshadowgroupishopedtosteerchildrenbacktotheirfaithbydepictingatheistsaspretentious,unlikeable,and
hurtfulpeoplethatthinkthey'rebetterthaneveryoneelse.Thehopeisthatkidswillidentifythesetraitswiththosetheyseeinbulliesat
theirschool.Thus,happilyreturningtotheirreligiouslifeknowingtheywon'tbecomesomethinglikethat.
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Ithinkit'sjustmorethefactthatpeoplethatactlikethataremorelikelytojoinagrouplikethat.LookatgatheringsofDrWhofans,or
Sherlockfans,orfootballfans,orbronies.Thereareperfectlynormal,rationalpeoplethatenjoyDrWho.Butyouwouldn'tknow
becausetheydon'twearfuckingbowtiesandonlyhangoutwithpeoplethatlikeDrWhoandpostaboutstupidfuckingDrWhoallthe
time.Ihavemetplentyofpeopleinreallifethataretheembodimentof/r/atheism.
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[] ImN0rth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RobSchneiderpaysmigrantworkersfromHomeDepottocometohishouseandchokehim.
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[] Warbl_Garbl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknow,IhavedefinitelyheadthatRobSchneiderpaysmigrantworkersfromHomeDepottocometohishouseandchokehimin
theshower.
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[] ihuntewoks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Intheshower.
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[] jpmuldoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vesometimesputonChapstickonawhim,justbecauseitwasthere,thenextdaytofindIhadchappedlipsandneededmore
Chapstick
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[] lewhiteprivilege undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whyisthisshitquestiononthefrontpageeveryweek?
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[] Ai_of_Vanity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIlluminati.
Imeanwe'retalkingabouttheideaofasecretsocietyofwealthy/powerfulpeoplethathavebeendictatinghugeworldchangingevents
forhundredsandhundredsofyears.Nowthatpeoplehavecaughtontheyusetheirvastresourcestothrowtheminthewrongdirection
andmakeitlooksillyandretardedthatyou'devenconsideritapossibility.
Ipersonallydon'tbelieveit,butreallyitcouldmakesenseandallthemotiveisthere.
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Lightbulbsaremadetolastwayshorterthannecessary.
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SoareiPhones.
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[] JeremyRodriguez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumphasnoseriousintentiontobepresident.
Heisjustcannonfodderfortheedownrightnow.90%oftheterriblerepublicancommentscomefromhim.Whenitcomescrunchtime,
hewilldropout.Nextthingyouknow,wecan'tremberalltheterriblethingstheotherssaid,justTrump.
"TheymustnotallbelikehimsinceIcan'trberanythinginthenews.BettervoteforradicalChristian,constitutiontrashing,WallStreet
cocksucker<republicancandidate>."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpOjj4YD8c
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[] Cripplor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheD.A.R.E.programwasactuallyconcoctedtogointopublicclassroomsandteachkidswhatdrugslookedlike,theireffects,and
howtoconsumethem.Thissimultaneouslyensuredfuturedrugcrimes,andtrumpedupthenecessityofthe"warondrugs,"thus
keepingtheprison/militaryindustrialcomplexesrollingatfullsteam.
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[] yiersansiwu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Facedwithmanyyearsoffallingsalestherubberducklobbyisleftwithonlyonechoice...wellyouknowtherest.
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[] dbaby53 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EhI'dsay9/11,thatLooseChangevideoispretttttyconvincing!
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[] TheFoss15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LooseChangewasoneofthemostfascinatingthingsI'veeverseen.
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Itwasdefinitelyfascinating
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DrugcompaniesarewellawarethatamajorsideeffectofSSRIsisthepossibilityofthepersontakingthemtogocrazyandshootupa
building.
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[] Lavitz552 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiracytheoriesthemselveswerecreatedandarestillbeingcreatedbythegovernmenttokeepeveryoneseparatedonwhatthey
believeistrue.Thatwayeventhoseinthetrutharejustcalledconspiracytheoristsandlumpedinwithoneofthemanytheories.
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PrivatemilitarycorporationseggontheviolenceintheMiddleEastinordertomakesuretheykeeponmakingmoney.
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[] legone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtfirstIthoughtDonaldTrumpwasjustrunningbecausehe'srichandwantedsomethingfuntodo.
NowI'm100%surethatifherunsinanycapacity,Republicannomineeorindependent,it'sbecausehe'splanningtosplitthe
RepublicanvoteandensurealandslidevictoryfortheDemocraticnominee.Itwon'tevenmatterifit'sHillaryornot.
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[] thegr8rambino13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ISISisawesternCIA/Mossad/UK/Saudicreation
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OPaskedthisquestiontoinvestigateapotentialleak.
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Windows10iscollectingallofourinformation
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Obama'sbiologicalfatherisFrankMarshallDavis,andhewasreallyborninahospitalinSeattlebecausehismotherwasattendingUW
atthetimeshewaspregnant.
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NSAAgentsunderthecoverof"Anonymous"stoppedCarlRovefromriggingthe2012elections
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[] DDayDodger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Antivirussoftwarecompaniesmakeviruses.
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Guncontrolproponentsareusingincrementalrestrictionstoenactfullscalegunregistration/confiscationschemes.
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[] microblocks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIAkilledJohnF.Kennedy.
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[] InSOmnlaC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthere'sawholemessofidiotsontheInternetwhogettogetherandcreateconspiraciesoutofnothing.
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[] rageofheaven undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everycrazyconspiracytheoristthinkstheirconspiracyistrue.You'veessentiallyaskedabunchoflunaticswhichconspiracytheyare
thecraziestabout.
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[] Javeyn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yougrewupwithgoosebumps,andwouldbeshockediftheywere"goosebunps"yousay?
Wellwegrewupwithberenstein,andareshockedthattheyareberenstain.Yourpointismoot,myfriend.
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[] SwimminAss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatjetfuelcan'tmeltdankmemes
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MileyCyruswassecretlykilledandreplacedbycorporate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbHqBSUT7Q
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[] tbrowne03 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKandMarilynMonroe.Forsure.
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[] redlipstick1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PSA:Sortthisthreadby"controversial"ifyouwan'trealanswers.
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[] yonreadsthis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyoneofthemthatyoucanmakeup.
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[] lkrups undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11happenedon9/11.Coincidence?Idon'tthinkso.#illuminaticonfirmed
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[] TheEnemyOfMyAnenome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheZimmermanTelegramwasahoax.BritainjustwantedtodrawusintoWW1.
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[] commenter1128 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ElectronicvotingmachinesintheUSarerigged.
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[] Morvack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Schoolsnotonlyallowbutencouragebullyingtoweedoutanyonewithanyfreethinking,individuality,orcreativity.
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[] salmonngarflukel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inever,everaboutthoughtthis...untilthisverysecond.
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Wellthinkaboutit.Howmanynewstoriestellaboutahighschoolerdefendingthemselves,onlytobeexpelled?Hell,gotwenty
milesmore.Howmanycollegestrytohelptherapists,nottheviolatedperson?
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idon'tknowaboutthat2ndparttypicallythemereaccusationofrapeisenoughtogetamalestudentexpelledso....
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[] MensRightsActivia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wrong.
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notsurewhatcampusesyouhavebeenonbuttheytakerapeveryseriouslyprobablymoresothenanyother
crimeoncampusexceptmaybemurder
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Definitelydependsonthecase,butthereareschoolswhobacktherapists.
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[] Starfish_Symphony undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheMarslandingswerethebiggestfraudeverpresentedtotheAmericanpeopleandaneasilyverifiedhoax.
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Iseewhatyoudidthere.
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[] ancient_scully undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheXFilesseriesiscomingbacktoTVinordertogetpeoplefantasizingthat'aliens'arebehindtheworldsproblemsandstopseeing
thetruththatACTUALcorruptPEOPLEaretoblame.Rememberhowblissfulthe90'swere?
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[] SomeDudeinAK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIAassassinatedJohnFitzgeraldKennedy.Theyhadthemeans,themotive,andtheopportunity.ItwastheCIAandithas
changedthecharacterofournation.
Fuckyouevilbastards.Bloodandanguishexisteverywhereyougo.Youaredarkevil.
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[] ajsdr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
myconspiracytheoryiswherevertherearehumansandlargeamountsofmoneythereiscorruptionandcrimeevidencelife.
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[] KFCNyanCat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notaconspiracy2/10
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[] ifritwins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatextremelysugaryandunhealthyfoodischeaperandmoreaccessiblethangoodfoodinordertokeeptheAmericanpopulation
lethargic,fat,unhappyandlesslikelyto"revolt"
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[] Aurorabeamblast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExtraterrestrialbeingsinhabitourEarthandtravelaboutincircularalienspacecraft(UFOs).Iactuallydidmyseniorresearchprojecton
provingtheexistencenotonlythatUFOsareofunknownorigintoanysocietyworldwide,butthatinfact,theyareofextraterrestrial
origin.
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[] LouReddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIAtookcontroloftheUnitedStateswhentheykilledKennedyandhavebeenusingfalseflagstoremainatwarinthemiddleeast.
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[] ingenium87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThejewscontrolAmerica.Theyreallydohaveaverydisproportionatenumberoftheirpeopleinpowerfulpositionsinmedia,academia,
business,andgovernment.
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[] Throwing_thisoneaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushtowers9/11confirmedconfirmed
Insidejobover9000tower7ripsweetprints
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[] onceuponathrow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foodcompaniesarepurposelymakingtheirfoodcauseacnebreakoutssothattheycanmakeprofitoffofmedicinetotreatit.Same
withdandruff/teethyellowing.
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Iknowveganswithacne,though...
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Neversaidmeatorother"unhealthy"foodwastheculprit.Couldbeanything,let'ssaycorn.
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SoyouthinkJoeFarmerwhosellshisfoodatthelocalfarmersmarkethasastakeinProActive,andintentionallymakeshis
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corngivepeopleacne?Doyounotseehowfarfetchedthisis?
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Doesn'tevenhavetobefood.Whataboutwater?Laundrydetergent?Andthewholepointofaconspiracytheoryis
thereisnoconcreteproof.
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Thepointofthisthreadisconspiracythreadsarelikelytrue.Acneisliterallyinfectedpoors.Thereisnothingelse
tosayaboutit.Noconspiracyhere.
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Nottryingtomakeanyonemad,justspeculating.Whatabouthormonalchangescausedbythe
food/water/etcthattriggersmoreacne?Ifwomengoingonbirthcontrolcandecreasetheseverityoftheir
acne,maybethisholdssomeweight?
Also,I'mfairlycertainthatwhatsomeoneeatsdoesplayapartinacne,whatI'mtheorizingaboutishow
muchofthisisdoneonpurpose.
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Onpurposewiththestatedgoalofcreatingacneonlytoincreasesalesoffacialcleansingproducts.
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[] Hethrus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911
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[] 6138 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thematrixisreal,andwearealltrapped.Takethetheredpill!
Seriouslythough,Ireadthisthinkingitwasridiculous,butIhavetoadmit,asmallpartofmewantstobelieveit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality
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[] Sneekyninja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecakewasn'talie.
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[] cheesyvagina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatmostpeoplewhobelieveconspiracytheoriesareidiots
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CastrohiredOswaldtoshootJFK
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Theunitedstatesgovernmentkilleddrking.Googleit.
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[] iloveuolivia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AccordingtomethatihavesearchedandigotisIplayhighschoolfootballandcanabsolutelyconfirmthat90%ofthegameontheline
isknockingyourheadagainstwhicheverpoorbastardisacrossfromyou.Doyou?ornot
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[] maoista undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
jfk
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[] sohappyred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwaskilledbyRothschildBank.
*OnJune4,1963,avirtuallyunknownPresidentialdecree,ExecutiveOrder11110,wassignedwiththeauthoritytobasicallystripthe
RothschildBankofitspowertoloanmoneytotheUnitedStatesFederalGovernmentatinterest.
Withthestrokeofapen,PresidentKennedydeclaredthattheprivatelyownedRothschildFederalReserveBankwouldsoonbeoutof
business.TheChristianLawFellowshiphasexhaustivelyresearchedthismatterthroughtheFederalRegisterandLibraryofCongress.
WecannowsafelyconcludethatthisExecutiveOrderhasneverbeenrepealed,amended,orsupercededbyanysubsequent
ExecutiveOrder.Insimpleterms,itisstillvalid.
WhenPresidentJohnFitzgeraldKennedysignedthisOrder,itreturnedtotheUnitedStatesfederalgovernment,specificallythe
TreasuryDepartment,theConstitutionalpowertocreateandissuecurrencymoneywithoutgoingthroughtheprivatelyowned
RothschildFederalReserveBank*
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[] sdcinerama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WikileaksmaybeeitherrunbytheRussiansorunwittinglydoingtheirbidding.
Iadmitthisonecomesoff/r/bestof,butitmakesanawfulkindofsense.MostoftheirinformationisagainstUSinterests,andthereis
nothingagainstRussia.
It'llberealinterestingwhenmoreofthestorycomesout.
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[] pseudo_dedicated undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ElonMuskisanexiledalienfrommarsandhisentireplanforustoreturnthereishiswayofusingEarth'speopletotakerevengeon
hisoldplanet.The"weshouldnuke"Marsbitafewmonthsagowasthenailinthecoffinforthistheoryforme:)
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[] roadtoruin78 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MostSubredditsonherefornicheinterestslike/r/magictcgorspecificgamingsubredditsarecontrolledbythecompaniesthatmake
them.Sayabsolutelyanythingevenclosetonegativeaboutthegameandfacewavesofdownvotesorevenaban
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[] lkrups undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheGentleman'sGuideToForumSpiesYoucanactuallypurchasethistypeofservicehttp://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
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AlQuedawasbehind911.
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9/11wasablackoperation.
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Woahman.Alloperationsmatter
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JETFUELCANTMELTSTEELBEAMS
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[] DjTOTO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatthescientistsatCernaretryingtoopenadoorwaytoanotherdimensionorarerespectivelytryingtoripthefabricofspacetime
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DooM
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Finlanddoesn'treallyexist.
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TheCIAhadaparttoplayinJFK'sassassination.
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Dietsodadrinksactuallytrickthebodyintogainingweight
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[] lazzygamer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peoplebuythemselvesgolftomakepeoplethinkthey'recommentisgoodandwillgetupvotes.
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Intriguing
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thatpeopleliketorepostconspiraciesfrompreviousthreadsexactlylikethisjustforkarma
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[] airgear87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamaisTupac,TupacisMuslim,andMuslimsarecrabpeople,sobythatlogicObamaisaciswoman.HolyshitwhathaveI
stumbledonto?
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[] Brettnet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnoilcompanyownedMapQuestandwouldalwaystellyoutogothelongwaysoyouhadtobuymoregas.
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[] TruthfulOtter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Westernnationsareprofitingoffofthe'waronterror'andintentionallydestabilizedthatentireregion.Theyaremostlikelytheones
creatingalloftheseterroristgroups,oratleastfacilitatingtheirgrowth.
Whenyourgovernmentsareranbypoliticiansthatcanbelegallyboughtbycorporations,anythingispossible.
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JamieVardywasoffsideforhis10thgoal
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[] breidbee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OPisagovernmentagentandtheonlyreasonyouareaskingthisquestionistokeeptrackofhowmanypeoplehaveto"goaway"...
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[] Widdlywaah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itdoesn'tmatterwhoisactingaspresident.Heisafigureheadonly.
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[] Boonaki undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
In1999theU.S.flewaB2bomberfromMissouritoSerbia,theCIAdesignatedonlyonetargetofthewholewar.They"madea
mistake"andbombedtheChineseEmbassyduetothemapsusedbeingold.
Chinadoesn'tbuyit.
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[] Elios000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
havefamilythatworkintheintelligenceworldandaskedaboutthat
turnsoutitsthetruthsomeonemislabeledthemaps....
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Itdoesn'texplainwhytheCIAonlydesignatedasingletargetofthewaranditjusthappenedtobetheChineseEmbassy.
TheconspiracytheoryIrememberistheChineseweredoingsomesortofintelfortheSerbsthatenabledtheshootdownoftheF
117.
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MikeyCyrusisactuallyHannahMontana
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Noway
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Thatthegovernmentisbehind,andactivelysupportsalltherealcrackpotconspiracytheoriestokeeppeopledistractedanddiscredit
actualscepticism.
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ThatOsamabinladendiedbeforetheObamaadministrationandbefore9/11.Physicallyhenoticeablechangedandthecomments
madeabouttheattackdidn'tmatchupwithknowledgeheshouldhavehad.WhetherornottheUSwasinonit,oritwasjustthegroup
tryingtokeeptheirmenacingimagewhoknows.
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JFKwasshotbyKevinHickey,aSSagentridinginthecarbehindhim,bymistakeofcourse,andtherewasanelaboratecoverup.
SeetheNetflixfilm:TheSmokingGun.
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Ahhnetflix.Thelandoffunnycomedies,romanticfilms,andconspiracycrackpotcollegestudent"documentaries".
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CIAkilledPresidentKennedy.
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9/11...
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JFKassassination.Somemightlaughthisoff,butthereisMUCHmorefactbehindanassassinationthanalonegunman.
AcommitteecalledtheHouseCommitteeonAssassinationsintheU.S.HouseofRepresentativesin1978issuedareportthatsaid
Kennedywasprobablyassassinatedasaresultofaconspiracy.
Hahaourowngovernmentevenbelievesthatitwasaconspiracy
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TheChappelleTheory
Itappearsthattheoriginalsitegottakendown,butthisonegivesyouthehighlights.
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Thatgovernmentsreleasedangerousvirusesasaformofpopulationcontrol
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Bushdid9/11.Ididn'tbelieveituntilIsawitspraypaintedonawall.Veryconvincing
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Everytimethisthreadcomesup,Isaythesamethings:
GeneralMotorsboughtoutL.A.sstreetcarsystem
variousoilscompanieslikeChevronboughtpatentstomorefuelefficientbatteriesandhydrogentech.
Also,Ihatetosound"2edgy4me"butI'mprettysuretheU.S.alongwithmanyotherfirstworldpowersareslowlybecomingoligarchies.
Socialmobilityandthegapbetweenclassesisstillridiculous.I'mnottryingtosayeveryoneshouldberichthat'simpossible.Still,
privatelyownedbusinesseshavealargedegreeofpoweroverourlives.
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don'tforgetaboutStanleyMeyer.whomysteriouslydiedfromfoodpoisoningshortlyafterabanquetcelebratingGM'sacquisitionofhis
patent.thatwasthelastanyoneeverheardofthewaterfuelcell.
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SantaClauserunstheilluminati.
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Dianawasbumpedoffbytheroyalfamily.
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Sandyhook,9/11insidejob
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Thegovernmentkilledtupac
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Probablythatobamalizardone.
Obamajust....seemslikethatkindaguythatwouldsecretlybealizard,youknow?
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It'snotaconspiracy...
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Isisisaciabackedoperation.UsedtoremoveSyrianpresidentassadfrompower.Reasonbeingistobreakupthethemiddleeastand
towesternizethearea.
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Thegovernmentisrunbycorporatepuppets
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Americadid9/11toitself.PeopledieandstampedeovereachotherforTVsandplaythings,materialthingsonedayafter
"thanksgiving"whichistrulybullshit()thisisonlythepeoplewholivethere,nottomentionthemanyblundersofpresidentsand
higherupshaha!InmyopinionAmericatrulyisajoke,anddoesthingstothemselvessotheycangetother'ssympathy.HEY.what's
thedifferencebetweenacowand9/11?Americacan'tmilkacowfor14yearsc:
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mfwreadingthiscommenthttp://puu.sh/lCv6C/b85cdca176.jpg
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thatismyfacethanks:)u'resocreativehaha!Ihopeyourfuturewifehasonlymiscarriagesinsteadofloveforyou
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[] GoatPunishment undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
why
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Allofthem.Obviously.Psshht.
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TheTruthIsOutThere
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Beyoncusedasurrogatetohaveherchild.IalsobelieveothercelebritiesdothisbutI'msureshedid.
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[] PMMEURGENITALS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldthismatter?Sheisopenlydoingthiswithhersecondchild.
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Youseethevideoofhersittingdownforaninterviewandherpregnantbellycollapses?
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IvealwayshadsomegutfeelingsaboutthedeathofprincessDiana.Justseemsfishy.
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TherewasasecondshooteratJFK'sassassination.
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TheCIAsuppliedcracktothehood.
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[] Tman3Z50 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Venuswasoncehometoacivilizationofsentientbeingsthatpollutedtheworldwithgreenhousegassesuntilitbecameuninhabitable,
sortoflikewhatshappeningtoEarthnow
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IthinktheInternetOverlordshavetrickedusallintothinkingthatproclaimingourjudgmentaboutpoltical/cultural/socialthingsactually
meanssomethingreal.
We'renotevenreal.Ouridentities,communication,perspectives,andconsumptionareallillusionsnow,thereisnoreal.
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MichaelJacksonwasprobablyapedophile.
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1,4,9
1,4,91,4,9
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Kazakhstanfinancedthemovie"Borat"tomakeeveryonebelieveKazakhstanisathirdworldcountry.Inreality,Kazakhstanhas
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thousandsofnukespointedateverymajorcityaroundtheworld.Alsotheyreallydohavethecleanestprostitutes,theyjustwantto
keepthemforthemselves.
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TheconspiracythatthegovernmentandnotJamesEarlRaykilledDr.MartinLutherKingJr.Thiswasbackedupbyalawsuitagainst
thegovernmentbytheKingfamilyincivilcourt.TheKingfamilystatedthattheydidn'tbelieveRaywastheshooter.Thecourtfoundin
favoroftheKingfamilystatingthattheU.S.governmentwasbehindtheassassination.TheKingfamilyonlywanted$100,thesimply
wantedtotaketheissuetocourt.
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[] EveryUsernameInOne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11isourStuttgartlookatthepowergrabandpatriotactbullshit.Later4thammendment,later1stassoonasit'sinconvenientsee
everyprotestever.TheCiafundedagroupoffightersinAfghanistanwhowerefightingthosedarncommieslaterthisgroupturnsonus
usingthesameweaponswegavethemagainstus.Then9/11happens.Alotofpeoplegotrichfromit.Nowthisrebelgroupwefunded
inIrantofightBasharalAsadgotalittlerowdyandnamedthemselvesISISwhenwillwestopequippingchaoticevilgroupswith
weaponsthenbeingsurprisedwhentheyusethemagainstus?Ithinkithelpstohavetheterroristelementaroundtokeeppeople
afraid,increasespendingindefense,andkeepfreedomtoaminimum,anddomesticlyworkingtowardsnormalizingzerotolerance
rules,dogsearchesinschools,andgettingscannedandsearchedattheairportjusttotravelaboutthecountry.America,landofthe
free.Right.
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TheU.S.,duringitsintenseperiodofmindcontrolresearchduringthe50s70s,expandedontheworksofJoseDelgadoandinstituted
someformofreliablemindcontroltechnology.
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McDonaldsgamesarerigged.
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Jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeams.
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Turkishdeepstate.SomuchevidenceandsomuchtothankRecepErdoganforevenifhehasbecomeapieceofshitthat'severything
hestoodagainstintheinterveningyears.
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HitlerwenttoArgentina.
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Hitlerwentalotofplaces
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NotOCbutthis:
Aninternationalconspiracyofrappersplanned9/11.How,youask?Thinkaboutthis:2pac2Chainz2Towers.Isitacoincidence?
Can'tbe.Onemightaskthough2pac?Whywouldhewanttodestroythetwintowers?Theanswerissimple.Oneonlyneedstolook
attheEastCoast/WestCoasthiphopfeud.Whowas2pac'sbiggestrival?That'sright,theNotoriousB.I.G.akaBiggieSmallsaka
ChristopherWallace.WheredidMr.Wallacelive?Oh,rightNewYorkCity:thesameplacetheTwinTowersare.Tupacwantedto
desecrateBiggie'sgrave."ButElijah"youmightsay,"didn'tTupacShakurdiein1996?"Ofcoursenot!Tupac,afterfakinghisdeath
andhidinginCuba,startedreachingouttohisnetworkofrelativesandfriends.TheShakurfamilyhadconnexionstotheMuslim
Brotherhoodandmanycriminalorganizationsinfact,2pacstillhasrelativesontheFBIMostWantedlist.
So,Tupachadthemotivationandthemeans,butwhatabout2Chainz?Whywouldhewanttodestroythetwintowers?Theanswer
liesinoneofChainz'mostpopularsongs"BirthdaySong"featuringKanyeWest.WhosebirthdayisonSeptember11?Notjustco
conspiratorsElephantManandLudacris(whohascollaboratedwithKanyemanytimes),butalsoSyrianPresidentBasharalAssad.
That'sright,2Chainz,inordertogiveabirthdaygifttoandingratiatehimselfwithAssad,destroyedtheWorldTradeCentertowers.
Where,though,doesKanye,theothermusicianonBirthdaySongcomein?Well,let'slookatMr.West'sfamily.Yeezyismarriedto
KeepingUpWiththeKardashiansstarandnotorioussextapeactressKimKardashian.Andwho,youmightwonder,isthefruitofthis
union?Yeezus'daughterNorthWest.(!)Waitasceond...NorthWest?WherearethetwintowersinrelationtoSyria?NORTHWEST!!!
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Kanyeisinonit!
IwishIcouldsaythattheconspiracystopsthere,butbygollyitdoesn't.WhowasPresidentwhen9/11happened?GeorgeWalker
Bush.WhatwasthenameofSnoopDogg'smostrecentstudioalbum?BUSH!SnoopDoggwasinonittoo.
Butlet'sthink:whosignedSnoopDoggtohisrecordlabel?Right,legendaryrapper/producerDr.Dre.Waitaminute!Whatyeardidthe
towersfall?2001.WhatisDre'smostrecentalbumname?2001!!!Coincidence?Ithinknot!
Butholdon,SnoopDoggyDoggisn'ttheonlyrappersignedtoDre.Whoelsedidherecruit?GrammywinningrapperEminem.AKA
MarshallMathers.WhatmoviedidEminembecomefamousfrom?8Mile.Howmanysyllablesin"mile"?1.8+1=9!Pluswhathappens
whenyouaddthe2Msfrom"MarshallMathers"?11!9/11!!!!!!Moreover,whatothernamedoesMathersgoby?SlimShady!SS!
Whereelsedoweknowthoseinitialsfrom?Oh,right,theeliteNaziunitofHitler's.WhatwasthenameofHitler'sregime?TheThird
Reich!Third...Three...Threesideofatriangle...
ILLUMINATICONFIRMED
IlluminatiisLatinfor"theenlightenedones".WhospokeLatin?TheAncientRomans.Let'sthinkaboutthem:WhoisafamousRoman?
JuliusCaesar.Oneofhismostfamousworks,CommentariesontheGallicWar,openswiththeline"AllGaulisdividedintoTHREE
parts."Again,theIlluminatinumbershowsup.
"Holdonforaminutethere,Elijah,"youmightsay,"sure,youmayhaveprovedtheAncientRomanswereintheIlluminati,butwhat
doesallthishavetodowith9/11?"Well,theRomansderivedmuchoftheirmythologyfromtheGreeks.Whowereafamous
mythologicalgroupwhoinspiredartinmythology?Right,theMuses,ofwhomtherewere9.Plus,whenyouaddthetwoconsulsatthe
headoftheRomancivilgovernment,youget11.Again!9/11(or,astheRomansmightputit,IX/XI).
AnotherfamousRomanwastheoratorMarcusTulliusCicero.Onetechniquehewoulduseinhisspeechwasthetricoloncrescens.
TRIcolon?ThreepopsupagaininAncientRome!Nottomention"crescens">"crescent".Whohasacrescentandstarastheir
symbol?Islam!
Wait...Islam...Hitler...whatdotheyhaveincommon?PersecutionoftheJews.IsitpossiblethattheJewsknewaboutthisconspiracy
thiswholetime?PerhapsthesecoconspiratorspersecutedtheJewssothesecretwouldn'tgetout.
Now,let'sblowthelidoffthebiggestsecretofthemall.9/11wasafireyexplosioninAmerica.Butwhatfireyexplosionhappenedin
Rome?TheeruptionofMt.Vesuvius!Howmanymajortownsweredestroyedbythevolcano?Two!PompeiiandHerculaneum.
AnotherparalleltoSept.11!Now,weallknowjetfuelcannotmeltsteelbeams,buthere'sanotherinconvenienttruthbombmolten
lavacan'tmeltmarblecolumns!
MT.VESUVIUSWASANINSIDEJOB!!!
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DanBilzeriandidn'twinhismoneyfrompoker,he'sjusthelpinghisfatherlaunderhismoney.
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SomeonewantsISIStogettheattentionoftheworldpowersbecauseeveryonealmosthadanuclearwarearlierthisyear
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[] Hazzman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Governmentroutinelylietoachievetheirpoliticalagendas.
Thisistheonenobodybelievesorwantstohearaboutandyetismostlikelytrue.
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MytheoryisthatTrumpjustwantstobepartoftheilluminati.Justthinkaboutitforasecond.Theillimunatiisapparently'themost
powerfulpeopleinAmerica',sowhynotTrump?Surelyhehastheresources.
SotheonlyconclusionIcanmakeisthattheyseehimasthatoneassholeintheplaygroundwhoalwayswantstobepartoftheir
gamesetcbuttheyjustcan'tfathomtohangwithhim
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Trumpwins.Theyrejecthim.Citizensrevolt.Usisnomore.Trumpneverjoinsilluminati.
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CourtneykilledKurt.SeeSoakedinBleachonNetflix.
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jetfueldoesn'tmeltsteelbeams
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Right,onlyfiredoes.
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Itwasaninsidejob.
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Mybrotherstealsmysocksandusesthemtowearormasturbateintothem.
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Howaboutboth?
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[] AgingNEET undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouwearasock,anditgetsyourfootpregnant,thenyou'llknow.
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probablythelatter.
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...yeah...itfigures.
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[] urbane_ulysses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'sdefinitelyalotmoreconvenientthanreturningfromthoseblissfulseconds(hoursifyou'reSting)onlytofindyourself
coveredincheaplotionandcum.
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Bynow?FUCKINGALLOFTHEM.
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thatleSJWcabalisgoingtoeatallourfreezepeaches:(
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[] Kinsata undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Checkout/r/actualconspiracies!
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Unitedflight93wasn'treallybroughtdownbythepassengersfightingtheterrorists.TheAirForceshotitdownbecauseit'stargetwas
theWhiteHouse.
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Abunchofthemaretruethedifferenceisthatoncetheyareproven"true"theystopcountingas"conspiracytheories".
Afewcometomind:
1)TheLavonAffair:IsraeliagentsdressedupasEgyptiansandplannedtobombAmericantargetsinEgyptinordertofooltheUSinto
takingamoreproIsraelposition.TheagentswerearrestedandtriedinEgypt,andtheUSputsanctionsonIsraelasaresultofthis
attemptedterroristattack.
Atthetime,theUSrelationshipwithIsraelwasquiteweakandonlyafewyearslaterPresidentEisenhowerwoulddemandthatIsrael,
France,andtheUKpulloutofEgyptduringtheSuezWar.
2)The"DarkAlliance"betweentheCIAanddrugcartels.OriginallydismissedasconspiracismbyaSanJoseMercuryNewsreporter,
allegationsthattheUSgovernmentwascollaboratingwithdrugtraffickersthatweremoreorlessvalidatedafteraseriesofgovernment
investigationsandFOIArequests.
3)TheIranContraAffair
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4)TheNSAwiretappingandmasssurveillancescandals
5)MediainfluencebytheCIA
6)CIAinvolvementinassistingNazisinescapingpostwarEurope("ratlines")
Thereareothers,butIthinkitisworthconsideringthattheterm"conspiracytheory"isitselfloaded.Ingeneral,a"conspiracytheory"is
somethingthatanygovernmentprosecutorisexpectedtoformulatewhentryingpeopleonavarietyofcrimes.Aconspiracy,legally
speaking,justimpliessomekindofsecretiveagreementtoengageincriminalconduct.SowhileplainEnglishrelegates"conspiracy
theory"tothatwhichispatentlyridiculous(alienstakingovertheworld,etc),theideathatpowerfulpeopledonotengageinconspiracy
isfoolishandnaive.Everynowandthen,theygetcaught.
Thedangerisofcoursethatiftheentireexplanationforwhygovernmentsdobadthingsisbasedonconspiracy,whichisinherently
secretive,thenthedoorisleftopenforallsortsofabsurdideastoexplainpoliticalphenomena.
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Thatwasveryinteresting.Thanks.
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[] UsedAnalBead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theonesat/r/actualconspiracies
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9/11beinganinsidejob
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IusuallyjusttakeOccam'srazortoeachandifitpassesIfileitinmyheadasmaybe,thisonefailsthattestmiserably.
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UseOccam'sRazoronbuilding7.
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WhileIthinkitspossiblethatsomeonewantedtotakethatbuildingdownforotherreasonstherejustisn'tenoughevidenceof
thathappeningthereissomeevidencehoweverthatitwasindeedtakendownbyfireanddamagefromthecollapseofWTC.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d45_1320106542butthisonlytellsusthattherewasafireanddamagenotthatitwouldhave
beenenoughtotakethebuildingdownonlyengineerscouldtellusthat.
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[] eldread undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheKevinCostnerbangingCalRipken'swifeduringtheStreakstory.Isohopethat'strue.
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Graphicscards,harddrivesandRAMaresometimesgivenEOLdatessothattheyfailbeforeyou'dnormallyreplacethemandbuynew
ones.ButtheEOLdatesarerandomizedsothatthepatternisimpossibletotrackandidentify.
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AllrepostersonRedditareactuallybotsdesignedbythegovernmenttoseehowwerespondtothem.
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Iunno,gocheckmojotop10videos...Imprettysuretherestwotop10'sofconspiracytheoriesthatareprobably/aretrue
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Redditisoneguy.
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Redditisonebotexceptforyou.
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/r/solipsism
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IamReddit!
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Thisisanold4chanjoke.
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hastobe2minimum,becauseIknowIdidn'twritealltheseothercomments.
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[] caulfield45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sagrandtotalof3.You,me,andUnidan.
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Itcouldstillbetwo.Ididn'twritealltheseothercomments,butyoucouldbelying.
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[] PartyJacket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yup!that'swhatImean.
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FortKnoxdoesn'thavethegoldamountitsaysitdoesand/orbelongstoothercountries.
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andthepointofthisis...?
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Isthisnotcommonknowledge?Ididn'tknowitwasconsideredaconspiracy.
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ThatAliensexist...Howselfcenteredandnaivecanwepossiblybe
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Thisisirrefutablytrue.Thesizeoftheuniversemakesitimpossiblethattherearen'tlikelycountlessaliencivilizationsoutthere.Butitis
superunlikelythattheyarehereonEarth...butmaybetheyare,whoknows
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Evolution
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HillaryClinton.
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ThewritingpromptwhereNicolasCageisunawarehe'sanactor.
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Bigoilandthefederalgovernment69'inginacomfyCaliforniakingsizedbedwiththehighestqualitysilksheets
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Thisisn'taconspiracy.
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Lizardpeople.Totallyrealandshit
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Starbuckspurposelyspellscustomersnameswrongonthecupssothatpicswillbetakenofthemanduploadedtosocialmedia.
Instantfreeadvertising.
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ThatIsraelisfundingISISbybuyingillegaloil.
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NoonediedatSandyHook.Youtubeclipsofactualnewsfootagehaveeverythingyaneedtocometothisconclusion.
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Sotheyjuststagedthewholethingsotheycoulddemolishtheschoolandbuildanewone?
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Ihavenoanswers,butifyoulook,youwillseewhatIhaveseen.
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No,somebullshitabouthowthisisjustarusebyguncontroladvocates.
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Exactly!Becausetheycouldn'thave...ohIdon'tknow...justbuiltanewfuckingschool.Honestly,thepeoplesayingSandyhook
wasfakedpissmeoff,asaConnecticutresident.
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NoneoftheparentsofSandyhookexisttoday....
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Tellthattolocalnewsstations...whohavecovered,indetail,theirendeavourstohavememorialparksbuiltintheir
honor.Veryhardtocoveranewsstoryabouttheparents,featuringinterviewswithsaidparentsiftheydon'texist.
You'reafuckingmoron.
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IntheC'I'A'reporttheyarecalledactors.
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Faceit,dude.You'renobetterthanthetinfoilhatwearingstereotypeoftheconspiracytheorist.You'renot
thishigherthinkingentityaboveallthelittlesheeplebelow...You'rejustafuckingidiot,whowantsattention
because"I'msosmart"
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"TheCIAreport".Mhm.WhatCIAreport?Providemewithevidencehere.Givemeacrediblesource.Or,
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admityou'rebeinganinsensitivenutcasewhorefusestorealizethatthegovernmentisn'touttogetthem.
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ThemediaattentionatSandyhookwasmadetodemoralizeit.Noonecaresaboutthetragedy.
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...myGodyou'reanidiot.Youaregivingmethemostbarebones,"becauseIsaidso"
explanationsI'veeverheard.Ofcoursewecareaboutthetragedy...theonlypeoplewhodon't
carearesociopathicAssholeslikeyourself,whocan'ttakerealityforwhatitis.Kidswere
fuckingmurdered,andyoutarnishtheirmemorywithyourbullshit.Shameonyou.
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[] TheoQi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUnitedStatesgovernmentkilled3000oftheirowncitizenson9/11/2001
TheCIAoverthrowsdemocraticallyelectedgovernmentsaroundtheworldinordertoputinplacepuppetgovernments/leadersin
ordertopillagethesaidcountryandmakeprofitfortheinternationalists
TheDEAisthelargestimporterofillegaldrugsintothecountry.Jobsecurity.
Thereisasmallgroupofhumanmenonearththatcontroleverysinglebank,government,andindustry,andwearetheirslaves.
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[] spacestation99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"humanmen"...asopposedtowhatotherspecies?
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[] badasspiggy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iguesstoseparatehiscrazytheoriesfromthoseothercrazytheories,whichstatethatthey'renothumans,butlizardpeople.
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ALLHUMANMENPUTDOWNYOURFORKS!!!
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[] TheoQi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsayhumantostresshowthesearejustmortalmenandCANbestopped.
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[] DostThowEvenLift undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyarejust"conspiracies".They'rejustnottheories.
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Let'snotforgetthattitanicwasaninsidejob.Icebergscan'tbreaksteelhulls.
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[] devi83 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AmassivefleetofextraterrestrialcraftorbitingtheEarthwithstealthtechnology.
InfiniteparallelEarths.
Godisreal.
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NewCoke.
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[] airbornebells undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlMegrahi(theLockerbiebomber)wasframed.
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United93wasshotdownbytheairforceinsteadofcrashingduetothepassengersovertakingtheterrorists
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[] Sarl_Cagen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IJBD9
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[] Dajunkbag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] qbertwins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BushandDickCheneyliedabout9/11,allaboutoilandprivatecontractors.TherewasnosuchthingasWMD.Iknewtherewasno
WMDanddidn'tcareaboutterrorist.Bushhasbeenhidingfrompublic/media.IthoughtJebBushwasthelaughingstockinthefamily.I
alsoheardFloridaisconsideredascountrythanastate.
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Head&ShouldersantidandruffshampoomakesyouaddictedtoHead&Shouldersantidandruffshampoo.Whichisbad,butok
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[] DrKrankenstein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BigfootisaliveandwellinthemountainsofWashington!
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[] Silosolo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheU.S.governmentintroducedcrackintotheghettototampertheprogressionoftheCivilRights/BlackPowermovement.
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[] kiiiiittycats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That"Paulisdead"one.
Hedefinitelydeadnow.
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[] JournalofFailure undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Putin'sFSBcarriedoutapartmentbuildingbombingsinMoscowshortlyaftertakingpower,andblamedChechenmilitants.
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[] ILOIVEI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911wasaninsidejob.Rather,itisimportanttonotewhohadadvancenoticeandwhatexactlyhappenedtobuilding7???
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[] SeanConneryIsMaclean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/actualconspiracies
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[] Yourponydied undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theearthisnotflat
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Jarjarbinkstheultimatesithlord.
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[] ohheyitspaul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Taiwan#1
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[] h4wkeyepierce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatBillCosby'sson'smurderwasnotrandom.ThatBillhimselfhadhimkilledbecausethesonwasgoingtocomeforwardabouthis
father'shistoryofrape.
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[] YesYesLibertarians undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatelementsoftheUSgovernmentarrangedtohaveJFKkilled.
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[] GRRyan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSmilitaryshotdownthelast9/11airplane.Itwasadecisionthathadtobedone,buttheycanneversaytheyshotitdown.So
instead,theysaythepassengerstookitoverandmadetheterroristscrashtheplane,savingcountlesslivesintheprocess.Justmy
theory.
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[] Freetoad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Totally.Theymentionedthatjetshadbeenscrambledandwere"escorting"asuspectedhighjackedplane.Anhourlatertheywere
reportingthatthepassengersofahighjackedplanehadsubduedtheattackersandaccidentallycrashedtheplaneintheprocess.
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[] GrooverMcTuber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyBrotheronLawwasstationedatLangleythatdayandwasonthetarmacasthef16thatdidthejobtaxiedin.
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[] glorified_plumber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notplausible.Iftheymilitaryhadshotitdown,theplanewouldhavebrokenapartintheair,andthedebrisfieldwouldbespreadovera
muchlargerarea.Lookattheimpactcraterandyoucanclearlyseethewings,fuselage,andtailsectionwereallintactwhentheplane
hittheground.Source:I'vewatchedalotofepisodesofAirCrashInvestigation.Thisideaisdiscussedindetailinmanyepisodesand
wellknowntoaircrashinvestigators.
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[] relevant_nonsequitor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyoutrolling?(Seriousquestion)Thedebriswasscatteredoverseveralmilesandyoucan'tseeanythinglargerthana
microwaveotherthantheengine.
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[] glorified_plumber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,andthedebriswasn'tspreadovermiles.Afield=/=miles.Lookattheimpactcrater.Thatplanewasveryobviouslyintact.
Shotdown=notintactonimpact.Ergo,notshotdown.
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No,thatplanewassupposetocrashintotheTHIRDbuildingthatcametumblingdownatWTC.Thepassengersreallydidbringthat
planedown.Thatistheonlytruthinthewholeaccountofwhathappened.
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[] WorldBFree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewhole"let'sroll"thingwasamadeupstorytocoverit
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[] protheist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plausibleanditmakesyouwonderabouttheotherplanesespeciallythemagicalselfvaporizingplanethathitthepentagon
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[] Christoph3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughttheysaidtheyshotitdownonthenewsthatday?That'swhatIheardanyway.
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[] GRRyan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkonthedaytherewereafewdifferentconflictingreports,butIcan'trecallspecifically.Idoknowthatalloftheinformationthat
hascomeoutsince,includinginterviewswithBush,sayhewasgoingtohavetomakeaverydifficultdecision,buttheheroicand
selflessactionsbythosepassengersmadeitsohedidn'thaveto.
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[] goatsaredumb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Proactiveworks.
Seriously,whywouldanyonebuymoreifitworked!?Shitdoesn'twork...
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[] sage_kyuubi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyougiveRonJeremy5minutes,he'llmakeyourcockbigger
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[] logicstarter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obamaisabottom,ReggieLoveisthetop.
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[] ASSHAT91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisonecamefrommydadtodayactually,andholyfuckitwasgeniusandprobablytrue.
Mydadnoticedthatthere'sahelluvalotmorefederalagencyadsontvthesedays.adsforparksandsuch,forexample.Seemslike
everythirdadisforthenationalparksdepartmentonhistorychannelorsomeshit.
Mydadsaid"Obamaprobablydoesthattocontrolthemedia.Youknow,givethemadtimeandiftheydon'tdo/saywhathewants,they
gettheirlifelinecut".
Ilookedatmydadandwaslike"Holyshit,I'dtotallydothatifIwantedtomilkadyingmediathatstillhadsignificantimpactonthe
generalpublic".
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[] FatLazyBatman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatReptilianswalkamongus.
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[] LifeWin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Panda'sareaBioengineeredspeciestheChineseinventedtomanipulatetherestoftheworld.That'swhythereareZEROhistorical
recordsofpandas!
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[] jamiegandolf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theseactsofgunviolenceareplannedbythegovernment/otherpartytoenactmoregunlegislation.NotthatI'magainstsomeformsof
guncontrolsuchasbackgroundchecks,butIthinkit'sleadingtoapointwherecitizensareaskedtoturnoveranyandallgunstobe
morelikeothernationsliketheUKandAustralia.
Alotofpeoplewonderwhathiddenagendacouldtherepossiblybetodosuchathing.Withlessgunsinthehandsofprivatecitizens,
thegovernment/otherpartyhasamucheasiertimeenactingthingsthatcanbenefitthemevenifthemajorityofindividualsmaynot
wantthesame,sometimesevenharmingitsowncitizens.
Peoplealwayscomeupwiththeargumentsthatthiswouldneverhappenbecausemembersofthemilitarywouldn'tturnontheirown
citizensandthatcitizensowningweaponslikeapistolwon'tdomuchtodeteracorruptgovernment.Ineversaiditwoulddeterthem,I
onlysaidthatcontinuingtoallowthepopuloustoownweaponswouldmakeitmuchmoredifficultforthemtodowhatthey'dlikewithout
fearingphysicalbacklash.Also,Iknowitgetsold,butIcontinuetocitetheactionsofNaziGermanyandhowthemembersofthe
militaryturnedontheirfellowcitizenswhowereJewishandallowedthemtobeplacedintoconcentrationcampswithouteverturning
theirbacksontheirleaders,soitcanverywellhappenwithoursaswellintheU.S.
No,I'mnotsomeonewhobelievesthatagunshouldbeturnedonpoliticiansanytimetheydoanythingthatupsetsus.I'msimplysaying
thatIbelievethatthevariouseventsofgunviolencewithmassshootingsareanattempttoleaduptoapointwherecitizensaremore
thanhappytodoso,hopingthiswillhelppreventmorefromhappening.IbelievethattheSecondAmendmentwasputthereasa
secondary"check"thegovernmentinkeepingitinlineandneverforgettingthatcitizensshouldalwayshavethepower,ifneedmay
come,tostartasecondRevolutionaryWaragainsta,now,domestic,corrupt,anddestructivegovernment.
Andyes,Icanverywellbelievethatleadersorapartywouldbedisgustingenoughtoallowmultiplecivilianstobemurderedfortheir
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cause.Ibelievethatpoliticiansaremorethancapableofdoingsomuchlikehowtheyallowpeopletobekilledinothercountriesas
casualtiesofwarfor"thegreatergood".
Idon'tbelieveallgunviolence/massshootingsareplanned,butIbelievemanyare.Liketoday,Obamaiscallingformoregun
regulationsafterthis.Peoplekeepsayingthat"nooneiscomingforyourguns"butwekeepgettingrightspushedfartherandfarther
backeachtimesomethinggoesthrough.Nomorefullyautomaticweapons,theykeeplimitingclipsizes,assaultriflesareunderfire
(andnoonecanexplainwhatmakesthemanymoredeadly),andmoreregulationskeepcomingthroughuntilwegettoapointwhere
citizensfeelcomfortablewiththegovernmentjustgettingridofthe2ndAmendment,altogether.
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[] Jahonay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamapersonallyrecognizesthatIslamisaninherentlyviolentreligion.Butbytalkingaboutextremists,andpromotingmoderates,he's
hopingthathecanreducetheinfluenceofextremists,anddiverttheirattentiontoothercountries.Meanwhile,he'sprobablyassuming
thathecaninfluencesomemoderatemuslimsawayfromactingviolent,andhopefullyleadingthemdownapathtochangetheirbeliefs.
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[] kidmccann11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BatmanisBruceWayne
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Banetotallytoldusduringhisfunkyfreshfreestyle.
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[] Billybeancounter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeneralPetraeuswaspubliclydestroyedbytheNSAbecausehedisclosedthatour"appliancesarealreadytappingus"inainterview2
yearsbeforeSnowdenfiles.
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[] proteusON undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911,likeduh.Zeropercentofanythingfromthe'officialexplanation'makesashredofsense,butitsuremadeafucktonofmoneyfora
fewpeople.
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[] gsasquatch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasafalseflagattack.Notthatthegovernmentputbombsintheworldtradecenter,justthatBushknowinglyignoredRichard
Clarkeet.al.tolettheattackhappenorworseencouragedAlQuidatostartthenextwarandgivethemilitaryindustrialcongressional
complexthekickitneededafterithadwanedintheClintonyears.
Also,thatGorewonthepopularelectionin2000andwouldhavecontinuedClinton'spoliciesofshrinkingthemilitaryandnationaldebt.
oh.wait.
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[] acbisho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarBinksisactuallyanallpowerfulsithlord./r/darthjarjar
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[] sansaset undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams
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AmySchumerisactuallyMelissaMcCartneyinafatsuit
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Theclinton'skilledorhadsomeonekillvincefoster.
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[] Frenchtoast4lfe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthatthecommercialsthatareagainstsmokingandstuffarepaidforbytobaccocompaniestokeepadvertisingsmokingeven
thoughitisillegal.Ialwayswanttosmokeafterwatchingthem.Exceptfortheskinpeelingonesfuckthat
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Bushhadsomeforeknowledgeof911,and/oruseditasanexcusetoinvadethemiddleeastforitsoil.
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[] WeeenieHutJrs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob
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[] Bodie1550 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WTC7Fellatnearlyfreefallspeedat5:20p.mon9/11,twentyminutesafterJaneStanleyfromBBCannouncedit'scollapse.Andyou
canseebuilding7behindherduringherbroadcast.Therearedozensofvideosofthecollapsethatshowitisclearlyacontrolled
demolition.Whichmeansithadtobewiredweeksinadvanceofthe911events.Startthereandlooktheothereventstoo.Jetfueldoes
notmeltsteelbeams.Aluminumairplanescannotdisappearintosteelbuildings.Andjetsdon'tcrashwithoutleavingalotofphysical
evidence.
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[] sockeatinassnigga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatKenLayisstillalive.
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Suspectthatalso.Methiswifeafterhe"passed."Shedidn'tlooktoobrokenup.ShewaspretendingtorunafurniturestoreonGray
Streetatthetime.IoftenwonderifKenwasn'tfinallysmuggledoutofthecountrythroughthatstoreinsomefurniture.
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[] sockeatinassnigga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HehadcloseconnectionstotheBushfamilytoo.
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[] Tomrad1234 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKshotfirstandtheyeditedthetapes
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HitlerwasprobablyaNazi.Ifyoulookcarefully,youcanseeNaziimageryinseveralofhisrecordedspeeches.
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[] CamNM1991 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKassassination.Ibelievethemobhadconnectionstohisdeath.
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[] GetFished undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsmoking,Eciggs,andunhealthyfoodsarepurposefulpopulationcontrol.
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Ithinksmokingandjunkfoodarejustexploitativecapitalism.Aloteasiertoexplainthosewithgreed,notsomeshadowycullingofthe
population.Especiallysincesmokingandjunkfoodusuallykillpeoplelongafterthey'vestoppedreproducing,andjunkfoodishowalot
oflowerincomefamiliescanaffordtosurvive.Thecaloriedensityissuperhighcomparedtothecost.Youwantapopulationcontrol
conspiracytheory?Antivaccination.Thinkaboutwho'santivax.It'salotofrichpeople.Who'smostlikelytowanttostartpopulation
control?Richpeople.MytheoryisthattherichknowthatthemiddleclassandpoorintheUSidolizetherich,andwillcopyshittheydo.
Wealreadyknowithappens.MiddleclassbuyingRalphLaurenattheoutletmall.SpendingawholepaycheckonaGuccibeltand
eatingBisquickwafflesallweekbecausetheycan'taffordfood.Poorandmiddleclasspeoplearetheoneswhoaremostatriskfora
massiveoutbreak.Highpopulationdensities,lackofsanitation.Wealthypeopledon'thavetheirextendedfamilyalllivinginonesingle
familyhouse.Andtheneachmemberofthatextendedfamilygoestoschool,orthegrocerystore,andinfectsdozensofpeople.The
wealthyhaveaccesstosomeofthebestschoolingintheworld,theyknowhowbiologyworks.
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Soallofthatsmokingthatwasbeingdonebeforeweknewitwasbaddoesn'tcount?
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[] easy2rememberhuh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ibelievethesametobetrueoftheterm"naturalcauses"
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[] Loves2watch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwasn'tkilledbyLeeHarveyOswald
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[] Atherum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarBinksisactuallyaSithLord.
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[] Fancy_Pantsu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bielefelddoesexist.
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[] exilus92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
allofthem?
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[] i_think_therefore_i_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peoplewhosaythey"couldcareless"actuallycare.
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[] FilthyCottonPickers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ProbablythatJewishinfluencewasbehindthemurderoftheRussianCzar.
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[] The_Ill_Made_Knight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThethingaboutRobSchneider...youknowtheone.
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[] Gordyman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwasmurderedbytheCIA.
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[] narutouz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKistheonlyconspiracytheorythatseemsplausible.
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[] DronePuppet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Verysimple:Redditwantstosuppressfreespeech.
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[] GAbdelnoor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Freespeech!Bygoddownvoteit!downvotes
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[] DronePuppet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Godinonlyamythorastorytocontrolpeople.
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[] ExtraInvitation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FranklinRooseveltsentallthewarshipstoPearlHarboranticipatinganattackbyJapanandthesubsequententranceoftheUSinto
WWII.
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[] StevePerryPsychouts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatFoxNewsisreallyastrawman,setuptopushanagendasofarrightthatthepoliticalleftwilllookbetterbycomparison.
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I'dbuythatifRupertMurdochweren'tbehindit.
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[] JosMhan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewoodchuckcouldchuckwood.
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Thesamepersonismakingthisthreadeveryweek.
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[] TheKlassyKamper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sonethatactuallyhasalotofhistoricalevidenceHilterdidnotcommitsuicideinthefhrerbunker,heescapedtoArgentina.
Thinkaboutit,therehavebeenvariousNaziartifactsfoundinArgentinafromUBoatsightingstoswastikas,andthecountrywasfilled
withwealthyNazisympathizerswhocouldhaveeasilysupportedHitlerasafugitivefortherestofhislife.Combinethiswithother
evidencesuchasthemassexodusofplanesandUBoatsfromGermanydaysbeforetheRedArmycapturedBerlin,andthefactthat
nobodyknowswhattrulyhappenedtoHitler'sbody,anditallsoundslikemorethanjustabogustinfoilhatconspiracytheory.
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ImeanplentyofotherNaziswereconfirmedtoescapetoSouthAmerica,sotheymightexplainalotofthatstuff...
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[] Handsonpie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheMafia:Thissecretcrimesocietywasvirtuallyunknownuntilthe1960s,whenmemberJoeValachifirstrevealedthesocietys
secretstolawenforcementofficials.Whatwasknownwasthatorganizedcrimeexisted,butnotthattheextentoftheircontrolincluded
workingwiththeCIA,politiciansandthebiggestbusinessesintheworld.
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[] Lamarwpg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThewholeOklahomaCityBombing.ThereisatonifevidencetosayTimdidn'tdoitalone.WatchadocumentarycalledANobleLie.
AbsolutelyconvincedafterIwatchedit.https://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/documentaryanoblelieexposes
oklahomacitybombingasgovernmentblackop/
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[] Bumblefuckery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesusifthisweretrue...
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[] Lamarwpg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://youtu.be/vHDIhxeMOcI
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[] lexfry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThePresidentisafacemanwithnopowerorsay.
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[] Vasallo7G undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yep,andthebestexampleforthatisObama.
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[] lexfry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
injustaboutanygivenfield,itisrareyouwillhaveapersonwhoisbothgiftedinthatfieldandisequallycharismatic,excellentat
speechesandalsoatleastmoderatelyattractivetoalargedemograph.
SincejustabouteveryPresidentmaintainsmostifnotallofthosequalities,theymustnotbegoodatmuchelsewhichsupportsthe
originaltheory.
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[] CanadianJogger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pointinfavourofargument:exPresidentsneverseemtobadmouththeirsuccessors.They'velearnedthatitispointless.
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TheCorporationexists,youmean.
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ChicoisQuiet
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[] samspicoli undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JETFUELCAN'TMELTSTEELBEAMS.
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[] mistertingleberry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliensarereaaaaal
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[] Levicorpyutani undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noquestiontheyarerealtheuniverseissimplytoobigtonotcontainotherformsoflife.
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Ialsomeantheonesthatarewatchingoverusaswespeak.UFO'sandabductionsandsuch.Theactivealiens
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Idoubtit.We'restillfirstorderorganicintelligencescreatedbygeneticalgorithms.WhenwecreateAIsforthealiens(whoare
alsoAIs),they'llbeinterestedinchatting(witheachother,notus).
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[] Levicorpyutani undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhnoIdon'tbelieveinthose.Ihere'snowaytheycouldgetcloseenoughaccordingtothelawsofphysicstheycouldn'tgo
fasterthanthespeedoflightandthat'sactuallyfairlyslowbyspacestandardsitwouldtakethemyearsandunlessitwas
planetwideevacthey'dhavenoreasontodothat
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Mytheoryiswhatweexperiencearenotfromotherplanetsbutarebeingsnotconfinedtoourfourdimensions.They
canenterandleaveatwill,likeinflatland.Weusedtocallthemgodsandangels,nowwecallthemaliens.
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Takesometimetolearnaboutthethousandsofreasonswhytheideathataliensarevisitingus,issupportedby
thousandsoffactualevidence.Watch"IKnowWhatISaw",itsthebestufodocfromover10fighterjetpilotsandexfbi
agentswhoexplainindetailthetruthbehindhumansworkingwithaliensandcoveringitupuntilpeoplethink"wow
believinginaliens!?Youmustbepsycho!!"
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[] buzzombi6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yourforeskinisbeingsoldtochina
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/melooksinhispants
Youknow,possessionisninetenthsofthelaw.
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theymakemoneyonthesurgeryandtheysellittobeturnedintofacecream.somehowitsnotacrimebecause#equality
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[] Pistacheeo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cloudsarealiens.:MannySkywatchonyoutube.
Hehasproof.Hundredsofthousandsofvideosworth.
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ThecomputerinDeepBluevsKasparovin1997wasactuallyJoelBenjamin
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ThattheIlluminatiisreal.
Funfact:It'sillegaltohavetheFedchangethe$1bill.Coincidence?Ithinknot.
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Thatthemoonlandingsarereal.Istillcan'tfindawaytofakeitallsotheymustbereal.
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Bushdid9/11
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None!
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BigOilcoversupsyntheticOil
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MichelleObamaisadude
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Planes,northefalloutofthetowersfallingattheWorldTradeCentercausedbuilding7tocollapse.
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Thatmanyoftheseconspiracytheoriesareindeedtrue.
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Thejetfuelsteelbeamsoneseemslegit
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[] CriticalThink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theilluminattiorsomeformofit.Ifyoureallydon'tbelievethattherichandpowerfulcolludeintheirowninterests,I'dsaythatyou're
probablyabitnaive.Mostofthemareverygoodatplanningandexecution,thusthey'reincrediblysuccessfulandrich....andweall
knowhowmuchinfluencemoneyhasovertheworld'sgovernments.
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HeardoftheBildeberggroup?
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[] CriticalThink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcourse.Ithinkeveryoneshouldbeawareofthemasthey'retheclosestthingtoapubliclyvisible"illuminati"thatcurrentlyexists.
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[] Gh0st1y undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11jetfueldoesn'tmeltsteelbeams,itwastheroswellaliensandtheNationalGrandBankteamedupwithW.
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Bushplanned9/11
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Bushaloneorthebushadministration?It'smorebelieveablethathehasn'tnoideasomeoneinhisadministrationplannedit.
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[] brrrrrrtt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SyriaisprobablyanotherbotchedcoupbytheCIA.
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Itactuallyis,Chile,Yugoslavia,Ukraine,Syria...
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ThatthegovtencouragedtechcompaniestomakefingerprintIDwidespreadsotheycouldeasilyopenthephonesofdeadsuspects.
Notnecessarilywithevilintent,maybelegitimatelytostopterror,butstill.
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[] GentlmanSkeleton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatwholethingwiththemoon,itsreallyjustthebackofthesun
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[] morningrat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoonlandingswerefake.
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[] JPSeven undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoushouldlisttoJoeRogan'spodcastwithDr.NeilDegrasseTyson.It'sawesome.
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[] nkrtsajflkdj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"they"arerepostingthisthreadeverymonthtokeepapulseonhowwellthefakeconspiraciesarecreatingnoise,andensurethereal
conspiraciesarestayingundertheradar
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Letmulescan'tkelppillmemes
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TWAflight800wasshotdown.
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IwassoldonthattheoryafterthecheesyCIAwheretheyinsistedthatnoonesawamissile.
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TILLastnightatthebarIwasTWAflight800.
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Ittookmeaminute.
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Gladyoulikedit.
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HOWHASNOONEMENTIONED9/11?!?!?!!?!?!?
Iwon'tbegintogointodetailsbecauseIdon'twanttobutcherit...but,comeonnow.
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Thatbigoilcompaniesareholdingbackrenewableenergy/electriccartechnology,oratleastthereasonitisn'tasmainstreamasit
shouldbe,assoonaswe'rewellandtrulyoutofoil,they'llbebehindthebigswitchtorenewableenergy.
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[] AtoneBC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themissing18minutesoftheNixontapeswasjustAlice'sRestaurantbyArloGuthrie.
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[] awesomemofo75 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThissongiscalledAlice'sRestaurant.ItsaboutAliceandtherestaurant.Butthat'snotthenameoftherestaurant
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"Shrink....Iwannakill"
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Itcouldbejustacoincidence,buthowmanythingsintheworldare18minutesand20secondslong.
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Dad?
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Lolhappythanksgivingfriend.
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[] DrFeelgood42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icannottellalie,Iputthatenvelopeunderthatgarbage.
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Thanksgivingtraditioninitsfinest
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[] CaptainPaulx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtthedormIliveinwehadaspecialthinggoonafewweeksagowhereafewpeoplebroughtinVinyl'sandthisguyhadanoriginal
copyofthisandtalkedabouttheconspiracy.
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Ihaven'tlaughedthathardinawhile.IfIhadgoldtogiveyouwouldreceiveit.IhaveaminorArlostoryifyouareinterestedinstead.
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[] AtoneBC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcourse!Let'shearit.
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[] reptarzan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasatasmallunnamedmusicfestivalthatsomepeopleImetwereinchargeofmusicianrelations,basicallyjustcleaning
upthegreenroombetweenartistsanddiscussingwiththemanagersiftheyhadanyspecialrequests.Arlowasapparently
themosthighmaintenanceartisttheyeverhadatthefest.TheytoldmethattheyleftArloajointinthegreenroomandArlo's
managercameoutflippingthefuckoutbecauseofit.Nobodyknewthatsuchalegendaryperformerquitdoingdrugsyears
ago.Hethreatenedtocanceltheshow.Luckilypeoplewereabletotalkhimdownandheplayedallofhisclassicstoagiant
crowdofpeople.TherunningjokewasthatArlogetstoorealwhenhe'shigh,hestartstalkingaboutbringingdownthe
establishmentorsomething.
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ThatmomentwhenyouarenotAmerican,butyou'relike,Hey,Iknowthatsong.
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[] Nightowl3090 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wowthiswasprettygood
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[] ireter294 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nixonalwayswins!
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[] Kadmos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Arrooo!
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[] Emm03 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HimtellingthatstoryisthefunniestfuckingthingI'veeverheard.
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AtypicalcaseofAmericanblindjustice.
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Andtherewasnowaythejudgewasgonnalookatthe27eightbytencolorglossypictures.
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[] Improbabilities undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Withthecirclesandarrowsandthenotesonthebackofeachoneexplainingwhateachonewas.
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[] spandexqueen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Offtopicish...Ihaveneverheardthissongbeforeandthisisthe3rdtimeit'scomeupin2days.Whattheheck!
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[] georgemcbay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BaaderMeinhofStrikesAgain!
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[] urgeigh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sasongthathasbecomestronglyassociatedwiththanksgivingtoalotofpeople,myselfincluded
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Ooooh,thatwouldmakesense.Ishouldgiveitalistentoseewhy.
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[] Electrorocket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thechorusisawesome.Ithinkit'ssungtwice.Theother17minutesofthesongisasortoframblingstory.
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IticludesTWOThanksgivingdinnersthatcouldn'tbebeat.
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Letsnotneglectthefactthat"youcangetANYTHINGyouwant"
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exceptanAlice!
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[] urgeigh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'llchangeyourlife.
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Apparently18minuteslong?Iwilldedicatetimetomorrow,whenIamalittlelesssleepy.....butnowIgettheNixon
conspiracytheory!:)
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[] bacterialmasstransit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthereanythingaboutthanksgivinginthesong?Ihavehearditsomanytimesanddon'trecallanything.Itmaybejust
ameme.
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"ItwastwoThanksgivingsago...twoyearsagoonThanksgiving/myfriendandIwenttovisitAliceatthe
restaurant."
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[] Flinkle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes...theywenttoAlice'sRestaurant"andhadaThanksgivingdinnerthatcouldn'tbebeat."
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MyunclebroughtituptwiceanditwasananswerduringourgameofCatchphrase,soIdon'tthinkit'sameme
thing.Istillhaven'tlistened,sonotsureifThanksgivingisinthesong.
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[] ballstatemarine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndOPwasneverheardfromagain.Butreally,listentomoreofhiscatalogaswell,andhisdad's,WoodyGuthrie.
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[] person9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyoulikeeitherofthemIhighlyrecommendPeteSeeger.Anothersongwriterandperformerthatworkedwith
WoodyGuthrieandlaterperformedwithArloGuthrieaswell.IloveWoodyGuthrie'ssongsbutIdothinkPete
Seegerwasthebetterstoryteller.
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Thanksfortherecommendation,butI'malreadyveryfamiliarwithPete.I'mamusicteacherandamateur
musicologistwithapassionforAmericanFolkmusic.Ialwaystryandexposemystudentstoasmuchofthe
substantialfolkrepertoryasIcan,andmostofthemcomearoundtoitwhentheyseethatthethemesare
stillrelatable.IwasdevastatedwhenPetedied,butatleastIgettoseeArloinconcertcomingupin
February.
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[] person9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sgreat!I'mamusicianthatlovesthestudyofinstrumentsandvarioususes.Especiallystring
instruments.SoIplayabitofeverythingandItrytoexploreaverywiderangeofmusic.Ifindmany
regionstohavefascinatingfolktraditionsandinstrumentsthatjustaren'tfoundanywhereelse.I'm
slowlylearningtorepairandbuildvariousinstrumentsandit'salwayscooltoseejustwhatisout
there.
ButIdohaveasoftspotforAmericanFolkmusicandespeciallyPeteSeeger.Imeansuchserious
subjectsinsuchsimplepackagesandthenajustnaturalsoundingperformerlikePeteSeegertodrive
ithome...verylittlecompeteswiththat!Banjohasneversoundedsosweeteither.
Hm...lookslikeArloGuthrieiscomingbacktomyareainApril.Mighthavetotakealookattickets!
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Ifyoureallylikefolkmusictraditions,findashapenotesinginggroupnearyouandtryit.I'mnot
agreatsinger,buttheSacredHarpsingingsareincredibleexperiences.
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[] Ragark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WoodyGuthrie
ThetruestgoddamnAmericantocomeoutofOklahoma.
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Rightyouare!
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[] slader166 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsherelatedtoJimGuthrie?
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BaaderMeinhoff
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Iwasjustreadingaboutthat!
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[] shoshaku undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
that'sjustsilly.It'scommonknowledgethatNixononlylistenedtothepicklesong
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[] buildabeast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'twantapickle,justwanttoridemymotorsickle,andIdon'twanttodie.Justwanttoridemymotorsighcle....itsnotthebest
songeverwrittenbuthedidn'thavemuchtimeafterfallingoffthatcliff.
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[] pizzafordesert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Iasked[ChipCarter]iftherecordhadbeenopenedandhenodded,yes,ithadbeenopened."
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YouneedArlo'svoice.
CHIP...?WASITOPEN?!
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ThiswasconfirmedbyGuthriehimself!
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shovelsandrakesandimplementsofdestruction!
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[] Jacob481516 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andheadedondowntowardsthecitydump.
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WehadneverheardofadumpbeingclosedonThanksgivingbefore,sowithtearsinoureyes,wedroveoffintothesunset
lookingforanotherplacetoputthegarbage.
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Motherrapers...
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[] Lump_Beefrock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fatherstabbers
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Fatherrapers!
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wavestotherestoftheGroupWbench
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Wheretheyweresmokingcigarettesandallkindsofgroovythings...
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Kid,whad'yaget?
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Ididn'tgetnothin'.Ihadtopay$50andpickupthegarbage.
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[] itp757 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...andcreatingageneralnuisance
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[] trillmuny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKassassination
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SylvesterStallonehavetesticleimplantsduetosomuchsteroiduse.
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thattherecentfatamorgana'soverChinaandelsewhere,areactuallyotherdimensionsopening.Miragesfitforillusionsofwaterora
boatatsea,forexamplebutthepicturesI'veseenofcitiesinclouds,a"mirage"justdoesn'tfitforme.
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[] staytaytay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Publishersandgamejournalistshireshillstodisparagemicrotransactionsonforumseverywherebecauseservicemeansanongoing
relationshipwiththedev,andtheyhavefarmorenegotiatingpoweragainstdevsandcustomerswhentheendpointofdevelopmentis
known.
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[] howarthe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://youtu.be/S_LTLG_oVfUThesefiveconspiraciesarenoteventheories.Theyhavebeenproventrue.
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[] vinnyalghul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCallofDutyseriesofshootinggamesaretrainingthefuturegenerationforadvanceddronewarfare.Videogamerswillbebehind
thescenescontrollingwarsoverseas.
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Thatwashappeningwithprimitivevideogamesinthe80s.
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[] HunterGames undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aka"Ender'sGame"
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[] Themanwiththeplan87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheFederalReservehadKennedykilledbyOswaldtokeepfrombeingshutdownandhavingtheregulationofmoneygobackto
congress.
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TheRugratstheory.
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[] WajahatAzam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
pleasecananyonetellmeWhatisconspiracytheory?
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ThereexistsasecretmoonbaseonthebacksideoftheMoon.ItissupportedbyUScraftusingbackengineeredUFOsaucer
propulsionsystems.Itisoperationalpresentlyandhasbeensinceatleastthemidsixties.
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[] Amxri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kushdid7/11
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[] JustDoingMyPart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butanecantburndensenugs
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twitterhasonlytaughtmethatdabisdabbutthenalsodabisnotdab,sowhendabwasontherisedabtookoverandshottothe
topandnowCamNewton,youfeelme?
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TheMcDonald'smonopolyisrigged
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IbelieveavastmajorityoftheAmericanpopulationarebrainwashed
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femalejeansarepurposelymadewithunusablepocketssothattheyhavetobyapurse.
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[] Yurei2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,onethatactuallyistrueisthatuntilrecentlyOilcompanieswereblockingattemptstomakeelectriccars.
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forgetelecticcarstherealconspiracyistheexternalcombusionengine.itssomuchmorepracticalforits.lackofenrichedfuelsbutalso
itsmuchsimpliler.requiringlesspartsandlastinglongerthecarandoilcompaniescouldntstandforasteamengine
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[] TheHeadlessPothead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliens.It'sveryprobablytruethattheyexist.It's2015,2016ishactually.Eventhepresidentdidn'tdenyit,hejustsaidhecan'ttalk
aboutit.Thethingaboutthisconspiracyisitsverylogical.It'spossiblefortheretobelifeinotherplanet,itispossiblethattheycame
here,itisinfactpossibleforthegovernmenttohidethisfactbecauseofthechaosthatwouldinsue.
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[] jhallen2260 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That9/11wasnotaninsidejob
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[] hopeLB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FederalReservetocontrolourRepublic.TheCreaturefromJekylIslandisonebookaboutitandMichaelHudson'slatestbook,Killing
theHost,isabouttheconsequences
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Thatthereisnoreasonfornapkins,toiletpaper,tissues,andpapertowels.Theycouldallbeoneproduct.
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Replacethemallwithdryormoistenedbabywipes.
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[] PackersFansAreNerds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Petroleumcompanieshaveknownfordecadesaboutgreenhousegasbasedclimatechange,buthavesystematicallycovereditupwith
thedirectcooperationofgovernments.
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Thisisconfirmedtrue.
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Iknow.
:(
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[] ayeman1234 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatthewholefootballworldisactuallyagainstJoseMourinho
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ThatMarilynMonroewasmurderedbysomeoneintheKennedyadministrationtokeepherquietaboutaffairswithJackandBobby.
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[] Vehldir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ChristmaswasinventedbythecountryofJapaninordertosellmoreNintendo.ThanksgotoBoogie2988forenlighteningtheworldto
thisfact!
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[] ELViejoLoco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?
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[] jollyollyman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheTRUTHcommercialsaremadetogetpeopletosmoke.
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[] Whats_Up4444 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howso?I'mreallyinterestedinthis.
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Thevideoitself.Ifyoujustwatchitwithnosound,allyouseearehookahs,blackandmilds,peoplesmokingcigsbeingallhappy
andthere'spilesofmoneyeverywhere.There'sevenaclipofthecaterpillarfromAliceinWonderlandsmokingahookah,thenthey
literallyjustshowashotofBlackandMildbrands,andhookahs.Nocontextwhatsoever.Eventheaudiodoesn'ttoitjustice.It'sjust
a'catchy'timethatdoesn'treallyputinyourmindthatcigarettesarebadforyou.It'sgearingtowardsnotgivingthecompanies
moneyforthem.
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IDKmanidontseethat,linkmeavideothatdoesthis.
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https://youtu.be/2WORU0gW8q4
Thereissomecontextbutdefinitelynotthewaytotrytogetpeopletostopsmoking.
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Wow,thatisactuallyprettygood.IadmitIwaswronginthis.
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[] user0621 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seriously.EverytimeIseeoneIfeellikesmokingoutofpurespite.
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[] BasicallyADoctor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecommercialsaresocringythattheygiveyoucancer.Thenyoumightaswellsmoke.
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Namechecksout.
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[] trisw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhavethisweirdtheorybutIdontknowwhattomakeofityet.
Whenyouaredrivingdownthehighway,youwillseeacarpulledovertotheshoulder.Within23milesyouwillseeanotherone,either
onthesameside,orontheother.
IdrovealotoverthepastdecadeorsoandIcanbetonitwithamazingconfidence.Sometimestheyarenewercars,sometimesthey
arebeaters.Sometimesthereissomeoneinthevehicles,sometimesnot.Sometimestheyhavethetowawaystickersonthem,
sometimesnot.
Ihavenoideawhatitwouldmean,buttome,thereissomethingweirdabouthowconsistentitis.Wheneveryouaredrivingonthe
highways,notinthecity,justkeepaneyeout.Ifyouseeavehicleontheshoulder,watchandseeifwithina23milesyouseeanother
one.Ifsomeonehasanyideabesidesshittyvehicles,imgame.
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[] AnSq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Confirmationbias.
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[] _mainus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Coincidence.Idoalotofinterstatedrivingandhavenevernoticedthisbefore.
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Ithinkitmeansthatsummerheatkillsbatteries.
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Butthecarwasalreadydriving,usuallybatteriesshowtheirdamagewhenstartingthecar.Onlyasurfacechargefromthe
alternatorisneededtoflowthroughthebatterytopowertheaccessories.
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[] aaabbcd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Andtires.
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Woah
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[] possiblyMaybeAnother undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ICanBelieveIt'sNotButter
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[] nlicious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ISISwascreatedandisfundedbytheCIAandMossad
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[] ClarkeStraws undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alongwithjustabouteveryotherterroristorganizationtodate.
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ThatObamaswifeisatransexualmannamedMichael.Dontbelieveme?Wellidontcare,atleastimnotabraindeadsheeplikeyou.
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ThatSeppBlatter(FIFAPresident)isnotacorrupt,wewaschoseforthatchargebecausehewassonaiveandstupidthathewould
neverrealizethathisinferior"coworkers"werestealingallthemoneyfromFootball.
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[] robinthesky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lifeonotherplanets
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[] Jonsnow369 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveyoumisunderstand"conspiracytheory"...Lifeonotherplanetwhilemostcertainlytrue,isnotaconspiracy...
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[] robinthesky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseewhatumean.Thanksforenlighteningme
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[] joshberry90 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliensman.Aliens.
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[] Tictacjo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MarilynMonroewasmurdered,anditwasstagedtolooklikeasuicide.
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[] FPSWizzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StrategicDefenseInitiativescientists(22deathsintotal)committedsuicide.Bythenatureoftheirdeaths,somearealmostindefensible
homicides.
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[] ExpatAmerican undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Discoverychannelwasdoingsomethingtotheecosystemorevenchummingthewatertogetahighrateofsharkattacksthissummer
justbeforesharkweek.Inrecentyearstheirqualityhasbeenlackingbigtimeandtheyturnedtoalternativemethods.Aftersharkweek,
everythingdiedimmediatelydown.
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uhuh,imworking46hoursthisweek
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[] herman3thousand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didyoujustwatch"SoakedinBleach"onNetflix?BecauseIjustwatched"SoakedinBleach"onNetflixandnowImaypossiblythink
thereissomethingtotheconspiracytheorysurroundingKurtCobain'sdeath.Like,themovieitselfisn'texcellentlydoneoranything
(aesthetically),butdamnitdefinitelyseemsawholelotmorefishythanIeverthought.
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[] pack0newports undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheevidencethatTWAflight800wasshotdownisprettyoverwhelmingsoadocumentaryonnetflixthatasfarasIamconcerned
makeaprettyconcretecase.
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[] beaver_buzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fingerprintloginforsmartphones.TheNSAknowswhoyouare,whereyouare,andwheretheycanusuallyfindyouanytimeinthe
year.
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PlateReadersonPolicecarsdothesameintrackingeveryone'scars.
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Similarly,redlightcamerasandtollboothcameras.Idrivepastadozenoftheseeveryday.ThegovernmentcouldknowwhereIwas
justbycheckingthose.Youthinktheygiveafuckthat75%ofredlightcamticketsarethrownoutiftheytakethemtocourt?Thenwhy
aretheystillputtingupredlightcams.
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The25%thatdopaymakeitworthwhile.
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IfeellikepostingtheconspiraciesIbelievein,withtheextensiveresearchandbookreadingIhavedonewouldendupgettingmekilled
:/
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Jetfuelcannotmeltsteelbeams
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Butitcanweakenthestructuralintegrityofsteelbeams
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SugeKnighthasprobablybeenthebiggesthitmaninhiphop.HewastherethenightsBiggieandPacdied,hewasinaclubwhen
ChrisBrownwasshotat,hewasaroundwhenEazyEmysteriously"contracted"AIDS.Imeanthemancouldn'tevenescapepeople
beingkilledonhiswatchduringthefilmingforhisownmovie.Something'snotrightwithhim,he'sbeenthecommonlinkintoomany
historicdeaths.
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911
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VotingintheUnitedStatesisriggedfarmorebeyondgerrymanderingandvotingmachineissues
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ThattheU.S.A.alwaysseemtomakeawarhappenjustbeforeamajorelectiontomakethepublicgobatshitcrazyandnotvote
logically.
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Swampgas.
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911toosoon?
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Loosechangeisanelaborateglobalconspiracy,wherebywe'reencouragedtospendmoneyonpointlessitems,promotingthe'want'
capitalistmentality
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Theholocaust
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Elaborate.
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ThatElsaandAnna'sparentsdiedonthewaytoRapunzel'sweddingandtheshipthatArielgoesintointhebeginningofhermovie
wastheirparent'sshipthatgotlostatsea...
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JFKbutnooneinourlifetimewilleverknowforsure.
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Nobodywilleverknow.
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Iimaginetherearepeoplethatdefinitelyknowwhatwentdown.
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I'msurethereis.Butthey'reapartofthesystem.Theywon'ttellusregularfolk.
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Read"CameaPaleHorse",byMiltonCooper.
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Read"CameaPaleHorse",byMiltonCooper.
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SandyHookwasfakedtopushforstricterguncontrol.There'sa30minutevideoihadwatchedafewyearsbackthatexplainedclearly
whyitwassetupanditisrightinfrontofeveryone'sface.
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Doyouhavethenameofthevideoprovidingthatitisstillup?I'dliketogiveitawatch.
Thanks!
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I'dbetmoneyonthe9/11asaninsidejob.
orabouttheKurtCobainsuicidebeingamurder(Assomeoneelsementioned)
oraboutHitlernotdyinginthebunker,andescapingNaziGermanytoliveinhiding,dyingatanoldage.
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IgenuinelybelievethatBushhadsomeinvolvementinthe9/11attacks.
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Imostlyfinditoddthatmultipleloudexplosionsthatithinkwmerdrecordedonseismicsensors...alsononArabsarrestedinGW
Bridge,butitdisappearedfromnewsandeverything.
ThePentagondoesnotlooklikeaplanehitit.
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MillionsofdeadDemocratscomebackfromthedeadonelectiondaytovote.
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Allofthem?
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TheUSAFhasspacefighters.Theycanachieveescapevelocity,andreentertheatmosphereata70degreedive.TheTAW50isreal.
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RipTornwasactuallytrainingJFKhowtoplayDodgeballandtoldhimifyoucandodgeabulletyoucandodgeaball.JFKfailedpretty
badly.
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courtneydidit
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[] quesadillionaire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MichaelJordanwastemporarilykickedoutoftheNBAforgambling.In1994,hewashandedasecretoneyearsuspensionby
commissionerDavidSternforgambling.ThiswastheyearMichael"tookoff"toplayminorleaguebaseball.Keepinmindthiswasin
theprimeofhisNBAcareer,soitreallymakesnosense.Thetheoryisthattheykeptitquiettoavoidnegativepress.Jordanmadethe
leaguesomuchmoneythatitwasintheirbestinteresttopunishhimbutnotletitdamagehisimage/value.
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KnicksfansaresobutthurtaboutJordankickingtheirassfor2decadestheymadeupaconspiracyaboutJordanbeingsuspendedfor
gambling.
Thinkaboutit.Ifhewassuspendedforgamblingthey'dneverlethimbuytheCharlotteHornets.
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Allofthem
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KurtCobaindidnotkillhimself.InthedocumentarySoakedinBleachtheyprovidecompellingevidencethathissuicidewassketchy
andthepolicecasewassloppilydone.Itismorelikelyhewasmurdered,butitremainsunknownbywhoorwhy.Intheaforementioned
documentary,theirbestguessisthatKurtCobainwasmurderedbyCourtneyLovebecausehewastryingtoleaveher.It'sinteresting
stuff.Callmecrazy,butyoujustneedtowatchit.It'sonNetflix
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Thatdriver'slicensesareprintedwithinferiorinkssothatitincreasesthenumberoftimesyouhavetogetthatshitrenewed.
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[] joesatmoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Despiteallthehumorousconspiraciesofthe"Illuminitu!!!",Iwouldnotbesurprisedifthereis/aresecretgroup(s),maybenotwith
famousactorsandentertainersbutwithimportantpeople.
AndalsothatHalfLife3isindevelopment.
The2conspiraciesareprobablynotconnectedthough.
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9/11isaninsidejob
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Thatcomputersandphonesarealmostuniversallyrootedandcontrolledbysomeintelligenceagencyoranother.
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Doesn'tLinuxprettymuchdisprovethistheory?
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Lizardpeople.
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Diamondsareworthless
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Everything'sworthlessit'sjustthathumanshaveputvalueondifferentthings.
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Theyactuallyhaveindustrialuses,butthejewelryaspectissuchbullshit.It'safuckinrock.Theindustryconvincedeveryonethatthe
onlywaytoshowyourlovetoyourpartneristogetthemthisveryspecificrockthatonlytheysell,andthentheyartificiallykeptthe
pricesuperfuckinghigh.FuckDeBeers.
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Yeahcarboniseverywhere,Icanassumethatdiamondsaren'tevenrareatall.
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Thefactisthattheflowofdiamondsbeingtradedisartificiallystemmedbytheindustriesthatproducethem
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JETFUELDOESN'TMELTSTEELBEAMSGODDAMNIT
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Thetermconspiracytheorywascoinedasatermbytheciatodiscreditanyonespeakingagainsttheofficialnarrativein1968
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[] Malestio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheHollowEarthconspiracy,EarthisactuallycompletelyhollowandthereareentrancestoaheavenlikeplaceinsidetheEarth
throughthepoles
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Canyougivemoredetailstothisclaim.
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IrememberreadingsomethingabouttheNazistravelingtoit.Idon'trememberwhereitwassomewierdwebsite.Googleit.
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Whyevenbother
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[] beyond7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseitsoundsinteresting.
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Ah.Well,it'snot.TheEarthisdefinitelynot"hollow",andthere'snotmuchmoretosayaboutit.But,forone,there's
basicphysicssuchastructurewouldneitherformnotbemaintainedgivenwhatweknowaboutsolarsystemformation
andgravity.Plus,forexample,wecanmeasurevibrationsthroughtheEarth'scrust.Wecandeterminethevarious
densitiesofEarth'slayersasaresult,andit'sprettydamndenseallthewaythroughnotunliketheskullsofthosewho
believein"hollowEarththeory".
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PootLovatohastobereal.
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TheClintonfamilyisresponsibleforthedeathsofmultipleassociateswhohaddirtonthemandcouldexposetheirsecrets.
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I'veheardaboutthedufflebagguy.Anyotheronesoutthere?
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Google"VinceFoster".Aforgedsuicidenoteamongotherthingsmakeitalittlesuspicious.
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thispostexistssolelytorevealthepublic'sattentiontowardcertainconspiracytheoriessothepeoplebehindthemcanactaccordingly
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Democratsstuffedballotboxesforobummer.
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Iwouldbemoresurprisedifbothsideswasn'tdoingsomeballotstuffing.
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Thisthreadidea.Getspostedeveryfewmonthstokeeppeopleinan"usvsthem",fauxrevolutionmindset.
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9/11isaninsidejob.
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ArtofShavingonitsownisafailingbusinessmodelthatneverturnsaprofitbutiskeptafloatbyGilletteforthesolepurposeof
showcasinghyperinflatedpricesontraditionalwetshavingsupplies.Thiskeepspeoplefrommovingawayfromcartridgesandbackto
traditionalshaving,whichultimatelyintheenddoesmakemoneyforGilletteeventhoughArtofShavingisalwaysinthered.
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IwentintoanAoSonceandwasturnedoffbytheirprices.Iwasalsoupsetthattheyhavefancycartridgerazors.That'sjustanidiotic
idea.I'llsticktomyonlineshoppingwhenitcomestoshaving.
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I'vebeeninonce.OnlinetheycarrystraightrazorssoIaskedwheretheywereandwasdirectedtoaDovoshavettepricedat$55.I
alreadyhavethatsameexactshavette.It'ssoldallovertheinternetforabout$35.
Thebestpartthoughwastheyhaditondisplaynexttotheir$95strop.IfI'mpaying$95forastropitbetterbemorethanasmall
onesidedthing.Andwhythehellaretheyimplyingyoushouldstropashavettethatusesreplaceableblades?lol
Thewholethingisbonkersthroughandthrough.There'snowayit'sasustainablebusinessmodel.Andyetit'sthere'slocationsall
overtheplace.Howaretheystayinginbusiness?Gilletteisproppingthemup.
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Chemtrails
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someoftheJFKstuffforsure.
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Mytheory(basedonverylimitedresearch)isthattheCIAputOswalduptoit,andthenhadRubykillOswald.Oswaldwasaperfect
patsybecausehehadtiestoboththecommunistsandthemafiaandwasunstable,sojustaboutanybodywouldbelieveanyoneorall
threeofthesereasonsprecipitatedthemurder,notasetupbytheCIA.Theygothimthejobatthebookwarehouse,theygavethe
orderonhowtocarryoutthehitandwhattodoafterward.Ifhehadn'tpanickedandshotapoliceofficer,hewouldhavebeen
"apprehended"bytheCIA(oratleastbecauseoftheirtipoff).TheydidthisbecauseJFKwasinbedwiththemafia,andtheywantedto
avoidanalloutwarathome.RubycameintothepicturebecausehetoohadmobtiesandtheCIAusedthesetiestointimidatehim
intokillingOswald.ThiswasalsoaperfectchoiceforthemasitwouldfurthercastsuspiciononthemafiafortheJFKhit.
IftheCIAwantedthepresidenttojustnotbealiveanymore,itwouldn'tbeamisfitcivilianinbroaddaylightinfrontofacrowd,hewould
justdieinhissleepofnaturalcausesduetoapreexistingconditionthathismedicalrecordswouldclearlyshowwerethecause.Thenif
theywantedtheirpatsyincustodytodisappear,samestory.He'djustbegoneinapuffofsmoke,notshotinfrontofacrowd.The
wholethingwastoohamfistedtobeeithertheCIAorthemafiadoingitforsimple,selfishpurposes.Themafiahasprofessional
hitmen,theywouldn'tusealackeylikeOswaldtokillthepresident,andtheywouldn'tstrongarmadebtortomurderhiminfrontofa
crowdofreporters.Itwasablackopanditplayedoutexactlyhowitwassupposedto,tothisveryday.
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BD9
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OilSheiksfundingterroristgroupsforfunandentertainment.Quitepossiblyagameamongtheirfriends.
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TheUSACongressisacircusofpupetsandtheownerofcircusisthebildenberggroup
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ThistopicispostedperiodicallybytheNSAasawayofkeepingtabsonwhoknows/suspectswhat.
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Greedoshotfirst.
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HereisaprettyobscureCanadiantheorythatImadeandhaveliterallyspenthourstrackingdowntheevidenceforyouguys.
InJuneif2010RichardFaddenheadoftheCSIStheCanadianspyagencyperformedadramaticoneononeinterviewontheCBC
wherehebroughtCanadian'sattentionthefactthatseveralprominentpoliticianswerethoughttobeundertheinfluenceofforeign
powers.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/somepoliticiansunderforeignswaycsis1.909345
Inthatinterviewhealsowarnsthatoneofthewaysforeignpowersarecreatingloyaltyisthroughuniversityclubs.
Insertconspiratorialbackroomdealingshere.
September2010ChineseStudentassociationatuniversityofwaterlooisdisbandedfor"unsanctionedoffcampusevents."
October2011DavidJohnstonleaveshisjobasPresidentofUniversityofWaterlootobecomeGovernorGeneralofCanada.
January2011detailsabouttheclosureoftheChineseStudentandscholarassociationatUWareleakedbyamemberofUW's
studentfederation.InthearticletheFedmemberisquotedassaying
notonwastheclubhidingfinancialinformation,theywereaffiliatedwithexternalorganizationsthatweredefinitelynotapprovedby
FEDs..."
ThearticlecanbefoundinpageintheJanuary21st2011editionofUniversotyofWaterloo'sstudentnewspaperTheImprint,andtomy
knowledge(andIhavelooked)istheonlycoverageofwhytheCSSAwasclosedin2010.
Youcandownloadtheeditionhereandreaditforyourself.
http://archive.uwimprint.ca
interestinglyonJan222011theuniversityannouncedthatitwasreceiving2.6millioninfundingthroughFederalstrategicgrants.
http://www.bulletin.uwaterloo.ca/2011/jan/21fr.html
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ThatBushactuallywasbehindtheeventsofSeptember11,2001.
bushdid911
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Dietsodascontainchemicalsthatincreaseappetite.
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WhoshotMr.Burns
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Saddamfunded9/11andhismoneycontinuestofundthe9/11conspiracymovementinthiscountry.
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[] HispanicPanic00 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theacceptedstoryaboutusgoingtothemoonseemsprettyfishytome.
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Whyhavewenevergoneback?
Well,there'sacombinationoffactors.Mostimportantly,weshouldanswerwhywewentinthefirstplace,andthenwhywestopped
goingintheearly70s.Toputitoneway,thespaceracewasatwonationtechnologicaldickmeasuringcontestwhichendedwhen
AmericarealizedtheRussianshadlostforsure.Itwaspoliticallymotovated,publicallysupported,andwellfunded.
Noneofthesecontributingfactorshavebeencomparablyinplacesince,notbyalongshot.Now,thereisdefinitelymoretoitthatthis
butthisshouldserveasadecentbigpictureperspectiveonthematter.
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ThattheZapruderfilmhasbeenedited,JFKshotfirst.
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DonaldTrumpisjustapuppet,tomakesureJebbushdoesn'tgetbackintotheWhitehouse
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I'mprettysureJebdoesn'tneedanyhelpcrashingandburning.
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TupacisaliveandresidesinCubawithfamily
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[] RchamOnYT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'shighlylikelythattherewassomesortofinsidejobduring9/11.There'splentyofevidenceforitandplansofinsidejobstostartwars
bytheUShavebeenwelldocumentedinthepast(LyndonB.Johnson'splantofakeanattacksotheAmericanpublicwouldsupport
theVietnamWar).
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9/11beinganinsidejob,USsupplyingISIS
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GiantLizardPeopleControlEverything.
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NeildeGrasseTysonisnottheblackspacemanwethinkheis.
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OklahomaCitybombingwasnottheworkoflonewolfrightwingers,butaconspiracyinvolvingIranandIraq.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Terrorist
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[] spergery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kurds,FSA,andSaudiandTurkishbackedrebels)
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Allofthem
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ThatCourtneyLovekilledKurtCobain.IjustwatchedthedocumentarySoakedinBleachonNetflixanditwaseyeopening
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[] p_oncho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shillsareeverywhereontheinternetandtheirpostsandopinionsarefrequentlyprominentbecausetheyhavethetimeandresources
togamesystems.
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TheHIVtheories.Maybenot100%true.
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Bandsandmusicianwithmusictargetedatteenstellthelistenersthey'rebeautiful,thelistenersreadthemusiciansinterviewinsome
magazine,themagazinesubsequentlydestroystheirselfconfidence,andthelistener/readerturnstothenextcatchyfeelgoodpop
song.
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Itwasaliens.
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Man,it'sneveraliens.
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ThefinancialcollapsewasplannedbyBushorpeoplearoundhimsothatitwouldforcepeopletojointheArmyformoneytherefore
theyhavemoresoldierstogofight.ThenthereisalsothewholeHalliburtonthing
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Ihaveagoodone:IthinkthatCarlyFiorinaandTedCruzarecollaboratingintherepublicanprimarywiththeintentionofbeingthe
other'sVPifoneofthemwins.Theirstrategyislikelytotakeuptwicethedebatetimeofasinglecandidate.Carlyfunctionsashis
"attackdog"towardsTrump,whileCruzneverattacksanothercandidate(andmoreimportantly,theyneverattackeachotherandhave
compatiblemessagesofcongressbeingdisfunctionalCarly'sapproachisthatshe'sanoutsider,whileTed'sisthathe'stheonly
insider"willingtospeakthetruth").
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Hugemultinationaleconomic/politicalgroupscollaboratetogethertoinfluenceworldeventsandimplementpoliciesthatkeepthestatus
quopovertyinAfricaandinpartsoftheirowncountry,warinthemiddleeast,resourceshortagesandimbalance,drugs,evenupto
'terrorism'alaJamesBondsSpectre.
Thisisnotbecausetheyareevilormalicious,butbecauseitisnecessaryasanegalitarianutopiacannotexistdueto(current)
limitationsofthehumancondition.Thepowerstructureneedstobemaintained,humansufferingandspeciationneedstoexistforthe
hierarchyasawholetofunction.ThishasbeenthewayforeveryadvancedhumancivilizationuptotheRomanmilitaryconquestsand
theirslavepoweredeconomics.Kindoflikecoloniesofants.
Castes,warandoppressionofferchallengestohumanitythatallowthemtofunctionbeyondtheircapacities.PeaceandComplacency
rots.WhichiswhyIbelievespaceexplorationisimportantinkeepingmankindunitedandforsomethinggrandertostriveforrather
thanforittobejustaboutoneupingeachother.
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KurtCobainwaswithoutadoubtmurdered.
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Nicetry,CIA.
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Bushknockeddownthetowers
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Iwasaguardinhighschoolandmydeliberatestrategywhengoingagainstsomebodybiggerandstrongerthanmewastofireoffas
fastasIpossiblycouldandslammyhelmetintohissoIcouldstunhim.
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Manypeopledon'twanttohearitandautomaticallydoalltheycantoshootdownanyspeculation,butanyonewho'sdonevery
thoroughresearchonthesubjectwillfinditthatthereisoverwhelmingevidencethatthe9/11attackswereperpetratedbypartswithin
theUSGovernment.
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Huh.Ifoundtheexactoppositetobetrue.9/11conspiracytheoriesarelaughablyfalse.
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Mostwhomock9/11scepticswillbarelybringupanyspecifics,butratherattackthepersonscharacter/implytheyarecrazy.There
areliterallyhundredsofthingsthatdon'taddupaboutthatday.
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Here'stheproblem,asIseeit,with9/11conspiracytheorists.Theyneverseemtoofferasinglecohesivenarrative.Instead,
theyjustlistallthethingstheybelieve"don'taddup"andthenchalkituptoconspiracy.Eventhoughthosethings,when
takentogether,don'tadduptoanycohesiveeventthemselves.
Basically,howitshouldgo,isthateverypieceofevidenceshouldsupportacohesivenarrative.Itshouldn'tsimplyopen
questions,butanswerthem.Thatdoesn'tseemtohappen.It'salwaysjustmorequestions.
Soifyouhavefoundatonofevidenceyoushouldbeabletosayexactlywhatoccurred.Ifyoucan't,thenwhyshouldn't
peopleacceptwhatwealreadybelieveoccurredgiventhatmakesmoreintuitivesense.
Also,thetheoriststendtosticklikegluetoanyonewhospeaksagainsttheofficialnarrative(nomatterhowdiscreditedthe
source),disregardingthemultitudeofexpertsthatsupportit(evenwhenthoseexpertsclearlyhavenovestedinterest).
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Somepeoplemayresorttoadhominemoverknowledgableresponses,butthatdoesn'tchangethefactsofthematter.
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Givemefiveexamples.
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1)TheFEMAmetallurgyreport.TheanalysisperformedontheWTCsteelbyProfessorJonathanBarnettprovesthatit
wasattackedbysomeformofmunition,sinceitwasriddledwithholesandhadbeenseverelyeroded/meltedby
somethingcontaininghighconcentrationsofsulfur."Theseverecorrosionandsubsequenterosionofsamples1and2
areaveryunusualevent.Noclearexplanationforthesourceofthesulfurhasbeenidentified."
http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf
2)ThehijackersVISAapplications.Investigatingtheattacks,politicaljournalNationalReviewobtainedcopiesofthe
VISAapplicationsfor15ofthe19namedhijackers,andintheprocessfoundthatall15shouldhavebeenrefusedentry
tothecountry."AnewreportaccusestheStateDepartmentofstaggeringlapsesinitsvisaprogramthatgaveSept.11
hijackersentryintotheUnitedStates.ThepoliticaljournalNationalReviewobtainedthevisaapplicationsfor15ofthe
19hijackersandevidencethatallofthemshouldhavebeendeniedentrytothecountry."
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130051&page=1#.UM_4YG9RWWw
3)Militarygrademunitions.ProfessorNielsHarritpublishedapeerreviewedpaperin2009provingtheexistenceof
highenergythermiteresidueinfouroutoffourWTCsamples.http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ2
7.pdf
4)ThebinLaden"confessiontape"isademonstrablefraud.ProfessorBruceLawrence,headofDukeUniversity's
religiousstudies'departmentandtheforemostBinLadenexpert,arguesthattheincreasinglysecularlanguageinthe
videoandaudiotapesofOsama(hisearliestonesarelitteredwithreferencestoGodandtheProphetMohammed)are
inconsistentwithhisstrictIslamicreligion,Wahhabism.Henotesthat,ononevideo,BinLadenwearsgoldenringson
hisfingers,anadornmentbannedamongWahhabifollowers.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article1212851/Has
OsamaBinLadendeadsevenyearsUSBritaincoveringcontinuewarterror.html
5)8)Cheneylikelygaveadirectordernottoshootdownflight77.ThetestimonyofNormanMinetabeforethe9/11
commissionseemstosuggestCheneywaskeptawareofthepathofflight77asitapproachedthePentagon,andthat
herepeatedanordernottoshootitdown.MR.HAMILTON:Wethankyouforthat.Iwantedtofocusjustamomenton
thePresidentialEmergencyOperatingCenter.Youwerethereforagoodpartoftheday.Ithinkyouweretherewiththe
vicepresident.Andwhenyouhadthatordergiven,Ithinkitwasbythepresident,thatauthorizedtheshootingdownof
commercialaircraftthatweresuspectedtobecontrolledbyterrorists,wereyoutherewhenthatorderwasgiven?MR.
MINETA:No,Iwasnot.IwasmadeawareofitduringthetimethattheairplanecomingintothePentagon.Therewasa
youngmanwhohadcomeinandsaidtothevicepresident,"Theplaneis50milesout.Theplaneis30milesout."And
whenitgotdownto,"Theplaneis10milesout,"theyoungmanalsosaidtothevicepresident,"Dotheordersstill
stand?"Andthevicepresidentturnedandwhippedhisneckaroundandsaid,"Ofcoursetheordersstillstand.Have
youheardanythingtothecontrary?http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/alibis/cheney.html
Plentymorewherethatcamefrom
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ExactlywhatImeanby"lauguable".Somesulphidizedsteel(toputitsimply)insomememberswhichcouldn't
haveevencontributedtothecollapse,andcouldhaveexperiencedthisreactionforamyriadofreasonse.g.
fromthedrywallinthetimefollowingthecollapse?Someimmigrantsfilledoutimmigrationformspoorly,andstill
gotapproved...whatrelevancedoesthishaveatall?PeoplearestillcitingtheHarritpaperasthoughithasa
shredofscientificcredibilityremaining?Don'tgetmestartedthatpaperisflawedmanytimesover,and
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subsequentattemptsatreplicationonlyhelptoconfirmthis.
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Governmentswillkilltheirowncitizenstopushagendas.
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Thishashappenedandbeendocumentedsomanytimesitshouldn'tevenbeenquestioned.
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TheParisattackswereafalseflagop.
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Theonewherebushdiddo9/11
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Thatthealwayshilarious'JETFUELCAN'TMELTSTEELBEAMS'memeactuallyoriginatedfromUSgovernmentinanefforttomake
amockeryof9/11sceptics.
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thisthreadisamajordisappointment.MichaelJordan,electriccar,andtherestisshit.RedditistooPC.Fuckit,I'moffto/x/
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Threadslikethisdon'tmakethefrontpageunlesstheyareheavilycontrolled,redditisdeadforseriousdiscussion,toomanyshills.
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Soloshotfirst.
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Thepyramidswherecreatedbyintelligentpeoplewhoeventuallydiedandthenthedumbpeopletookoverandclaimedtohavemade
them.
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theu.scannever,andwillnotpayit'sdebt.
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Well,meandthemhavethatincommon.
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[] CaseyDafuq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThePresidentandmostofthegovernmentarecontrolledbyasmallgroupofdisgustinglywealthyindividualsandgroupswhousetheir
moneytopushtheirmalevolentagendas.
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Thisisconspiracy?It'scommonsensetbh?
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It'sprobablytrue.SuperPacsevenmakeitkindalegal.It'snotliketheofficialsadvertisewithcompanylogosonallthedesksat
meetings.I'msureifyoudidenoughresearchorwithalargeenoughdonationyoucouldfindoutwhosomeofthemare.Ifyou
foundoutthevicepreswasdealingwithsomemonumentalgreedysyndicateonsomecorporateissue,youcouldprobablydeduct
theirunethicalgoals.Ifyouhadevidence,theneitherthefederalcourtwouldimprisonyoufortreason(Ifyou'relucky)TheIlluminati
Esquecultwouldmostlikelymakeyoudisappear.
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LymediseaseendemicoriginatingonplumislandacrossfromLymeConnecticutbecauseoftestingdiseasesforusebyourmilitary
anddiseasewarfare.Watchunderourskin!
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Thegovernmentstoryof9/11isliterallyaconspiracytheory,directlyinvolvingatleast19,andperhapshundredsmoreindirectly.
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Largetirecompanieshavetheabilitytoproducetiresthatneverwearout,butdon'treleasethemtoreaptheprofit.
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Sameaslightbulbs,andprobablyahundredotherthingsweuseonadailybasis
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Youknow,Ineverunderstoodwhycompetitiondidn'tsolvethiswithcommonthingslikelightbulbs.
Let'ssayGEmakesalightbulbthatlastsayear.Andthetechnologytomakeindefinitelightbulbsexist.Thenwouldn'tanother
companycomeinwithabulbthatlasts2years...ForcingGEtomakeonethatlasts10.Backandforthuntilonecompanyfinally
sellstheforeverbulbtobeatthecompetition.
Guesscompetitiondoesn'talwaysworklikeit'ssupposedto.
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TheFallofAtlantislegendisactuallyanancientoralhistoryofthefirstslaverevolt,thefirstslaverevolution.Itwasn'tliterallymassive
wavesoftheoceanengulfingAtlantis,itwaswavesofslaves.
Theslavesgottiredofbeingslavesfortheelite,technologicallyadvancedmasters.TheAtlanteansweresmarterthanwearetoday,
includingtechnologically.That'showtheybuiltthepyramidsandallancientstructuresthatseemimpossible(Machupichuanyone?).
Thenwherearethemassivecitiesiftheyhadcrazytech?Well,waybackthentheyhaddifferentaesthetictastesandalsoheldthe
beautyoftheearthsacred.Onlythemostimportantstructureswereallowedtobemadeofintractablematerials(stone)because
quarryingscarstheearthandmakesitugly.Soweonlyseetheirpyramidsleft.Allotherstructuresweremadeofmaterialsliketrees
thatdidn'tleavehugegougesintheground.Theircitiesjustdecomposedawayovertime.
*Now,theAtlanteanslearnedagreatlessonfromthisrevoltoftheirslaves.Theslavesmustbetrickedandnotallowedtoseethefull
splendoroftherulers'lives.Soeversincetheyhavecsrefullycontrolledtheprogressoftechnology,lettingnewbreakthroughseekout
ataveryslowratesotheycanmaintaincontrol.
Goodtheory?Solidmovieidea?
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NeedsadisillusionedolderAtlanteanwhorenounceshisbirthrightandhelpstheslavesrebel.PreferablyplayedbyHughJackmanif
youwantheavyactionorWillSmithifyouwantlightaction
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Whataboutheavypettingandlightpetting?
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Bothofthem.
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I'dwatchit.Startwriting
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Somebodycallridleyscott
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NicolasCageiscompletelyunawarethatheisanactor.Allheknowsisstrangemenwithcamerasfollowhimaroundwhilehegetsinto
crazysituationsandmoneyshowsuprandomlyinhisbankaccount.
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IthinkI'mDouglasQuaidbutIverywellmaybeCarlHauser
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9/11
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Bushdid9/11forsure
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Thatthegovernmentpoststhisquestionto/r/askredditmultipletimesamonthtokeepupwiththepopulationsthoughtsandplans.
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Yep,andthenhastheirshillsupvoteallthebullshitceleb/nonsenserelatedconspiraciesuptopanddownvotethelegitonesinto
oblivion.Therearehundredsofpeopleinthisthreadmentioning9/11,faroutweighinganyotherconspiracy,buttheyarealldownthe
bottom.Prettytelling
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Imatinfoilhatcollector,butthatmightbealittlefar.Although,itsclosertothetruththansayingtheydhavenointerestdoingsimilar
things.
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Probablyaliens.They'reoutthere:
disclaimer:Iuseadblock(whichisafreeinstantbrowserplugin),soIdon'tknowifthereareadsonthesevideos,butIsuggestyouuse
adblocklikeeveryothercivilizedpersonifyoudon'twanttofindout!
MultipleUFOsmonitoringorflyingaroundrocketlaunch,thenshootingoffintothesky:https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=899/
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=954
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=711(afuckingstrangeUFObeingmonitoredbytheboysintheblackhelicopters,hovers,rotates,
dematerializesintoamillionpiecesoncamera)
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84(anotherexampleofUFO,thisoneinacity,beingmonitoredby'theboysinblackhelicopters'again,
thenflyingoff/shootingoffatunimaginablespeed)
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=611(ufofliespasttapingofjetfighterinterceptor)
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=442(anotherufoincontrasttojetfighterinterceptor)
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=529(ufosittinginalightningstormoveracity,someoneistapingthestormandcatches
somethingweirdhoveringneartheenergyofthelightning)
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=998(possiblyUFObeingchasedbyconventionalfighterjet,therearemultipleexamplesofthisin
thevideoIampullingallthisfrom)
https://youtu.be/LQPsj4ttf84?t=1035(orbshaveseentwooftheseinreallifemyselfIhavehadthree"sightings"inmylife
oneasakidand2atthesametimeasanadulttheyhappenIwoulddoubtitandnotbelieveitmyselfifIhadn'tseenthesefor
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myself)
Peoplewanttothinktheyknowbetterthanastronauts,relevantprofessionalswithfirsthandpersonalorprofessionalexperience,Air
Forceexperience,PhDs,engineerswhoworkatLockheedonthedevelopmentanddesignoftheU2/SR71BlackbirdlikeDonPhillips:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDg_6W2UIS8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsEd_b1C8DYGordonCooper,Astronaut,Americanaerospaceengineer,USAFpilot,advanced
aircrafttestpilot,AstronautontheMercury,Gemini,andApollospaceprograms,tellingyouabouthismultipledirectprofessional
experiencewithalienvehicles/UFOsandtellingyouhethinkstheywereextraterrestrialpilotsand"hehasnodoubtaboutit",andinhis
militarycareerhehasbeenresponsibleforhandling'goodfilm'with'goodcloseupshots'intheAirForceofflyingsaucersthatweren't
ourslandingandtakingbackoffagain.Hecalleduphischainofcommanduntileventually,afterspeakingto'higherandhigherand
higherlevelofficers',hereachedacolonelwhotoldhimtherewouldbeacouriersenttohimandthebaseairplanewouldbearranged
toflybacktoWashingtonwiththesefilmshehadinhispossessionthatheandhisstaffshotinthedesert.
Or,ifyoubelieveGordonCooperortheotherolderastronautswhotrytotellyouaboutalienshavelosttheirmindsor'hadsomemental
decline',maybeyoushouldconsidersomeotherrelevantprofessionals:
USAFColonelCharlesHalt,whowasdeputybasecommanderatthelargestNATOairbaseintheworldduringtheColdWar
whowastherewhensomealiensshowedupinforceandreportedittohischainofcommandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=x8DHDsweaWEColonelHaltwentontobeBaseCommanderat2othermilitaryinstallations,andretiredastheDirectorof
InspectionsfortheDoDInspectorGeneral'soffice,wherehehadinspectionoversightforallmilitaryfacilitiesanddefense
services(notthetypicalcareerpathofacrazypersonwhohallucinatesaliensaroundanairbase)first3ofthefollowinglinksare
USAFenlistedpersonnel/officers/NCOswhowerethereandsawittoo(therestareotherprofessionalswithfirsthand
experience)oneofwhommadethemistakeofcallinghisfamilyfromthebasepayphoneafterwitnessingallthisstuffand
endedupinalotoftrouble,eventuallylosinghispassportfordisclosing"sensitivedefenseinfo",ittookinvolvinghis
Congressmanandaformerattorneygeneraltogetitbackforhim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHwhmc2mtQ(USAFSgt.JamesPenniston,oneofthemanyairmenwhoaccompaniedthe
deputybasecommanderCol.Haltthosenightsandsawthesamethings)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYU_tr5K5ws(anotherairmenstationedatthebasewithColonelHaltandSgt.Pennistonwho
sawthesethings,SecurityOfficerLarryWarren)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XJvHRuzY(CaptainLoriRehfedlt,anotherofficerwhobacksthemup)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARWBRYXHSdAMiltonTorres,PhDandEngineeringProfessor/formerUSAFfighterpilot,
youthinkhealsojustwentcrazywhenhewasorderedtointerceptaUFOthesizeofanaircraftcarrierthatwasorbitingIpswich?
Maybehisradar,andhisgroundradaroperator,andthatgroundradarconsoleitselfalsoweregoinginsane?Andthe
intelligencespookwhoshoweduptodebriefhimthemorningafterhismissionandtoldhimtoforgetallaboutitandthe
commanderwhosenthimonthefiremissionweretheyallhavingmentaldeclineatthetimeaswell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4wL4lbwwNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Clbn3zgsRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBOY5jrOGwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VaeZRH9R2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPK2JyLK4
justsayin,aliens.
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Interesting
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[] Philosophersdream undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tevenfeeltheneedtogothroughthesevideosbecauseyou'reuseofevidence.Ineverreallythoughtofaliensbecausethey
don'taffectme.Istilldon'tcarelol.Onedayifwemakecontact,I'llcare.
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[] urderp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yourealizethatyou'reignoringmoonwalkingastronauts,USAFColonels,Generals,fightpilots,PhDs,aerospaceengineers,and
LockheedMartinadvancedprogramsdivisionemployees(peoplewhobuildtheU2/SR71/etc.)tellingyouthattheyarehereandwe
have"madecontact"?
Whoelseareyouwaitingfortotellyou?Apolitician?Whenhasapoliticianevertoldyouthetruthaboutanythinginyourentirelife?
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WhatI'msayingisthattheyprobablydoexist,justfelttoolazytogothruvideoscuzitdoesn'taffectme.AndwhenIsaymake
contact,Imeancommunicate.Untilthen,whocares?
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YeahImean...Thesedaysvideoevidenceisprobablytheleastreliablenexttoeyewitnessandphotos.Gonnatakealotmorethan
YouTubelinkstoconvincemeofsomethingthisbig.
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Yeah,right,becauseastronautsandaerospaceengineersandtheUSAFhighofficers/Colonels/basecommanders/Generals,
andPhDengineerfighterpilots,theywouldn'tknowbetterthanyou,right?
Combinedwithallthevideo,it'sreally,reallystupidto"notbelieve"it.Haveyoueverinyourentirelifewitnessedamurder?
Doyouknowanyonewhohas?Doyouhaveanypicsofit?Butyouknowitexists.
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Onedayifwemakecontact,I'llcare.
thosevideosshowyouthatwealreadyhave,andyoudon't.
doyoumeanwhentheymakecontactwithYOU?orwhentheymakecontactwithBillNyetheScienceGuy?orwhenhe'sinvitedto
thesecretbasetodoayoutubelivestream?
somepeopledon'thaveacuriousboneintheirbodyotherpeopledo.
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ThethegluetinalergyisaproductofGMO's
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VinceFosterwasmurdered.
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Allofit
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[] UrGoing2LuvMyNuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jewscontrolthemedia.Fearus.
Example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_entertainers
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Theberensteinbearsconspiracy.
Thousandsandthousandsofpeoplegrewupreadingabouttheberensteinbears,andrememberthemasthe"berenSTEIN"bears.If
youdoalittleresearch,itturnsouttheyhave"always"beentheberenSTAINbears.
Itshardtoexplain,butessentiallytheconspiracyispartofthemultiversetheory.Thereistheuniversewheretheyexistasthe
berensteinbears,andauniversewheretheyexistastheberenstainbears,andsomehow,duetoeventswecantexplain,manyofus
switchedplaceswithourberenstaincounterparts,andarestillshockedwhenwereaditasberenstain,orhearitthatway.
Ascrazyasitmaybe,I100%remembertheberensteinbearsbooks,notberenstain.
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I'mprettysureBerensteinwashoweveryonepronouncedit,andbeingchildren,manypeoplewhogrewuphearingitanddidn'tknow
howitwasspelled.That'swhyweallimagineitspelledstein,insteadofstain.
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[] chelleofcc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
econspiracyispartofthemultiversetheory.Thereistheuniversewheretheyexistastheberensteinbears,andauniversewhere
theyexistastheberenstainbears,andsomehow,duetoeventswecantexplain,manyofusswitchedplaceswithourberenstain
counterparts,andarestillshockedwhenwereaditasberenstain,orhearitthatway.
Youaren'tcrazy.Irememberitthatwaytoo,sodoesmyMom.Mysister&brotherdon'tthough.:S
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Iplayedthevideogamemywholechildhood.Itwasalwaysstain
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IguessthatmakesyouaStainian.WelcometothecomplexlifeofaSteinian!
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Thegameshaveseemedtovanishthough.IwishIcouldfindthem
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Idon'tseewhyit'ssoimplausiblethattheywereoriginallyintendedtohaveaJewishname,butchangeditbecauseofthepublisheror
becausetheydidn'twanthatesimplyforbeingJewish?
Also,youcanwriteatonofshitindifferentfontstomakecertainletterslooklikeotherletters.
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Sotheauthorofthebookhasbeenaskedaboutthis,andhassaidthatthebookhasALWAYSbeenberenstain.Thousandsand
thousandsofpeoplerememberitasberenstein,includingmyself.
Whatmakesthiscrazyisthatallofthesepeoplerememberberenstein.Noteveryonedoes,justsomeofus.Buttonsofus
rememberberenstein,anditneverwas.
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Yes,buthowmanybooktitlesareeasytoscrewup?HowmanypeopleouttheredoyouthinkpickedupHarryPotterandthe
Prisonerof'Akabazan'whentheywere7?
I'dfreakoutifitturnedoutGoosebumpswasactuallyGoosbunpsthewholetime,andtherewouldbeplentyofpeoplecoming
outsaying"Ialwaysthoughtthenamewasfunny"orsomethingalongthoselines.They'rekidsbookskidswanttoreadthe
book,notfocusintentlyonthesmalltitleofthecastnearthegianttitleofthebook.
Alsonobody'snameendsin"stain".ButifyougrowupintheU.S.youseeplentyof"stein"somaybethere'stonsofpeople
whonoticedthediscrepancyaskids,butremembereditdifferently10yearsdownthelinebecauseofEinstein,Frankenstein,
Weinstein,Eisenstein,Steinbrenner,helljustStein.It'severywhere,andonlythosebooksprintoutStainnobodywantsalast
namethatliterallymeansmess.ExcepttheauthorsofthosebooksIguess:p
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"I'dbefreakedoutifitturnedoutGoosebumpswasactuallyGoosbunps"
WellwegrewupwithBerensteinbears,andturnsouttheyarecalledBerenstain.
Yourpointismoot,myfriend.
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Whateverhelpsyouthroughthenightpal)
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OmgIthoughtIwastheonlyone!!!!!
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[] copper_rainbows undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'scrazy.TheyweredefinitelyBerenstein.
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Usedtofreakinglovethese...Haven'tthoughtaboutthatseriesinAGES...thanksforpryinglooseahappychildhoodmemory
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It'shonestlykindafreakingmeoutthattheyactlikeitwasalways"stain"whenitclearlywasn't.Wonderwhatthemotivations
wereforthechange...
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Thatsthething:inthisuniverse,itwasalwaysberenstain.Somehowus"Steinians"switchedplaceswithour
doppelganger"Stainians",andthustheconspiracywasborn.
ThisistheonlyconspiracyIbelieve,onlybecauseitkiiiiiiindafreaksmeandmygirlfriendout.(She'saSteiniantoo)
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Asiancountrieswhosendtheirpoordriversallaroundtheworldtodeliberatelyslowdowndailycommuters,whichwouldslowdownthe
economyandallowtheirstothrive.
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Thatdoesn'texplainwhyKoreandriversinSouthKoreaaresofuckinbad.
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Yeah,they'reallbadingeneral
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DonaldTrumpwasaskedtorunbytheGOPsoothercandidateswouldn'tlookascrazy.
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Thefatacceptancemovementwascreatedbylargepharmaceuticalcompaniestoselldietpillsandotherweightlossproducts
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Howdoesfatacceptanceencouragedietpillsandweightlossproducts?seemslikeitwouldliterallydotheopposite.
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Bielefelddoesn'texist
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Pocketsonwoman'spantsaremadesmallsotheyhavetobuyhandbags
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ThattheOPisactuallynothomosexual.
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TherewereactuallytwoshootersintheJFKAssassinationwhoexpertlycoordinatedtheattackwithperfectlymatchedriflesandbullets
tomakeitseemliketherewasone.
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8companiessecretlycontroltheunitedstatesandthatthePresidentisgettingchecksfromSaudiArabia.
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JohnsonkilledKennedy,incahootswiththemobandCubans.
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KennedydefinitelyhadMarilynkilled
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evidence?
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KennedydefinitelyhadMarilynkilled
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Youcansaythatagain
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[] punknub undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIlluminati.Nottheonethateveryonethinks.Butadifferentone.Agroupofuberwealthyindividualswhoplotandplaycompletely
behindthescenes.Theyownthemediasotheycan'tbeexposed.Theyownthegovernmentsotheycanstaylegal.Theyowntheoil
sotheyessentiallyownthepeople.Theyownthearmysotheycandefendthemselvesratheramicably.Theyprobablyareinleague
withforeignwealthyfiguredaswell.Theymightaswellownthewholedamnworld.Plottingwhichcountrieswillwarwithwhichand
makingeverythinglooknormalataglance.Butmeknowingthisisn'tathreattothem.Isoundcrazyanddelusional.Paranoidand
erratic.Nobodywouldeverbelieveme.Andtheycancountonthatbecauseit'strue.Theconspiracywiththebiggestshredoftruthis
sobigthatitcouldneverbeblownopen.
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You'renotalonebelievingthis.They'recalledtheBilderbergGroup.Ihavealotoftroublebelievingtheyhaven'tbeenbehindalotof
strangeincidents(JFK,9/11,the2008collapse).
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Thesameguypoststhisthreadeverytime,justchangingnamethroughaltaccountsmeticulouslyusedtomakethemlooklegit.
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Idon'tknowthatIwouldsaythatthisis"probably"true,butIwouldhonestlynotbesurprisediftherewasasecondshooterinvolvedin
theKennedyassassinationaswellasacomplicatedplotinvolvingoneormorepowerfulparties.
I'mnotsaying,"Ithinkthis"or"Iamsureofthis,"Ijustwouldn'tbesurprised.
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I'mwithyou,bud.Shetotallykilledhim.Haveyouread"TheSistersBrothers?"AnovelbytheguywhosebrotherwastheKobain's
manny..whosheapparentlyhiredtodoit.Andhischaracterinthebook?Scary.Vinteresting!
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MichaelJordan'sfirstretirementfromwasreallyayearandahalfsuspensionforgamblingonbasketball.
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Thisisthetopcomment....
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There'sanefficientcureforcancer,butitwon'tbeputintoeffectbecausethecancerindustryissolucrative.
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I'msorrybutthereisabsolutelynowaythatwelandedamanonthemoon
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Whynot?
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Asofwewereabletoactuallysendhumanbeingsoffofthisplanetandintothevoidofspace...
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Butwhyisitsoimpossibleforyoutobelieve?
I'mnotsayingyou'rewrong,I'mjustcuriousastowhyyoubelievethat.
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Puttinghumansinspace?Nosir!Itwouldbesaferandcheaperandmorerealistictojuststagethewholething
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[] Rodry2808 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereareagentsouttherepromotingridiculoustheoriesor"adding"infoaboutothersjusttodiscreditthethembecausetheymay
makesense
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[] RuSsIaKiLlZ4tHeLuLz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ProbablylatetothegameherebutFinlanddoesnotnotarealcountry.Thelandmassisactuallyjustanoceanandeverypictureof
FinlandyouhaveeverseenisjusteastSweden.It'saHUGEUNcoverup
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Well,wheredidLinusTorvaldscomefromthen?
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AsuburbofGothenburg.
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[] exoromeo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EastSwedenitwouldseem.
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wealreadydidthismeme
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fek.Imalwayslatetotheparty
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DavidKelly
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[] crusoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Operationcloverleaf(chemtrails)isnotapopulationcontrolprogram.It'salastditchattempttostaveofforlessenglobalwarmingvia
aerosolformation.
Idon'tactuallybelievethisbutitmakesmoresensethanthewholechemtrailsnonsense.
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WhatevertheTempleOSguybelieves
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KurtCobainwasmurdered.
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2pacisn'tdead
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oksowhoisintheground?
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BillHickssortofconvincedmeontheKennedyAssassination.
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ThattheyusedaapplausetrackforHillaryduringthelastdemocraticdebate
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IknofoshothattheybekeepinweedillegalsotheycouldkeepputtinmuthafuckasinthempensrealtalkFollowthemoneylilhomie
folksbestackinmadgwapbehindkeepinuslockeddown4real
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[] makenzie71 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Topicalsteroidcreamsdevelopadependencycausingpeoplewiththingslikeskinpsoriasistodevelopacompoundproblemrequiring
treatmentwithmoresteroids.
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[] ChemicalExperiment undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasverysuprisedwhenpeoplewereshockedaboutEdwardSnowden.Ikindofjustassumedthegovernmentwasspyingon
everythingwedidallthetime.It'sjusthowIwasraised.ThenIlearnedaboutBigBrotherand1984andI'mlike,"Oh,thisislike,
somethingunexpectedthatdoesn'tnormallygoon?"
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HannahMontanaisprobablyMileyCyrus.
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Nowyou'rejustmakingshitup.
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[] ghostdate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MileyCyruswaskilledandherbodywasfoundoutinthedeserteastofLAseveralyearsago.Shewasreplacedbyadouble.
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Orshe'snotandtherealMileyCyrusgotkilledandreplacedwithanIlluminatipuppet.Ipersonallydon'tbelievethis,butit'samildly
amusingtheory.
Ok...Isawiton4chansoit'sprobablyalie.There'smoretoitthanthisscreencapbelowifanyone'sinterested.
http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/d7/f7/d7f760_4759177.jpg
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Getaloadofthisguy!
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Points!
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NicetryNSA
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[] deadrabbits76 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lizards...everywhere.
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[] slowshot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecrashof2007wasnecessarybecauseifeverybodycashedintheir401k,wallstreetwouldhavehadtofilebankruptcy.
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UVB76isjustabunchofboredkids.
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[] Brigante87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereissomekindofgroupofIndiannationalistsonRedditthatlinkeachothertobrigadethreadsandcomments.
TheysaysomereallynastyshitandI'veseenthempopupinvariousthreads,theyliterallywantyoutodie.
Withthissaid,I'vehadmorethanenoughniceIndianpeopleonRedditthatrecognisethisproblem.
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[] Imissyourgirlfriend2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weneverlandedonthesun.
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[] sepkimmy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Applepurposelyintroducesanewupdateaweekbeforeanewdevicecomesoutsopeople'scurrentdevicesgetfucked,causingthem
tobuythenewone
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Hasitbeenamonthalready?
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[] Kapowinator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob.
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Jetfuelcan'tmeltstealbeams.
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Icouldbelievethat7/11wasaparttimejob.
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[] deadbird17 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Antivirussoftwarecompaniesgeneratetheviruses.
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Abetteronewouldbethatantivirusprogramshavestatesponsoredbackdoorsinthemp
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[] ItalianKitten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Catssecretlyruntheworld.
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AmCat.Canconfirm.
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Iknewit!
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[] ItalianKitten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anditwas,infact,cats'ideatocreatetheinternet,tospreadthefur.
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[] AmatoryAntelope undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofall9/11conspiraciesIthinkthetheorythattheplanewasshotdownoverPennsylvaniatostopitfromhittingsomewhereinDC
makesthemostsense.TheDefenseSecretaryevensaidthatitwasshotdown.
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[] Synux undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cheneysaidthesame.
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unprovenconspiracy:flight93wasdestinedforwtc7.Itchangedcourseshortlyafterthemainwtcbuildingfell,whichclearedtheair
pathtowtc7.Buttheplanhadtocontinue,soevenwithoutthetheatricsoftheplanehittingwtc7,therealterrorists(masterminds)
decidedtocontinuetopull(demolition)wtc7duetothenatureofthebuildingscontents.(evidence).Notmytheory,Ireadthis
somewhere.
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O.J.didn'tdoit.Hissondid.
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DonaldTrumpisareptilianaliencreature.
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/r/theworldisflat
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[] roadcruiser1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatthereisanintentionaldestructionofMusiclikeClassicalMusicsothatpeopleintheWesternWorldwillnotknowtheirroots.:P.
AlsoitistokeepthemunintelligiblesopeoplewillknownothingmorethanJustinBieber.:D.
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[] reindeer73 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YowhathappenedwithclassicalmusicwasimprovisationstoppedbeingpopularinEuropeanmusicschoolattheturnofthe20th
centuryandmovedtoAtonalmusic(musicnothavinga'keycenter').Whenthatstartedtohappen,improvisersmigratedtoAmerica
andtaughttheircraftofBachinfluencedharmoniestolocalswhoblendeditwiththeirfolkmusiccreating:Jazz(specificallythebebop
style,whichwasheavilyinfluencedbytheharmoniesofBach,Chopin,Ravel,andStravinsky)andtoalesserextent,bluegrass.What
endedjazz'spopularitywastherecordingstrikethathappenedduringWWII,whichalsoswitchedthefocusfrominstrumentalistsand
bandleaderstosingers(FrankSinatrawasthefirstofthese)JazzasArtmusiccarriedwithprevalenceuntilthemid60'swhenittoo
nearedapointofatonality(FreeJazz)andwaspushedbyrecordcompaniestobemorelikepopularrockactsatthetime,creatinga
'Fusion'ofthetwo.
tldr:Asporadicatbesthistoryof20thcenturyartmusic.
GolistentosomeTheloniousMonkrecordsifyouenjoyArt
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Moonlandingwasfake.
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[] samurai5625 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JewsrunthebanksandHollywoodandtheyonlyhookupotherJewswithpowerfulandhighlypaidpositionswithinthoseindustries.
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DeezNutz
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[] vVvMaze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GlobalaccountsofvisitorsdescendingfromtheskywasaliteraldescriptionofAliensandnotamythicaldescriptionofGods.(People
thoughttheywereGodscausewhatelsecouldtheypossiblybeatthattime,andwiththatunderstanding?)
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[] aram855 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliensarejusttimetravelinghumansfromthefuture,moreevolvedthatourcurrentstate.
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911wasreallyaninsurancescam
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[] ultronisright undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:actualtinfoilers
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[] Bread_Boy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11WASAPARTTIMEJOB
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Icanmakeyouahatifyoulike,althoughI'veheardthattheyactuallyamplifythesignals!!
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[] ElMorono undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BothJFKandMLKwereassassinatedbythegovernment.JFKwasn'tafanofthemilitaryindustrialcomplex,amongotherthingsthat
thegovernmentbelievedwasacceptablepolicy,andmanythoughtDr.Kingwasacommunist.
(Note:Ipersonallydon'tthinkhewasone,butthatwasduringtheRedScare,andtherewasnowayanybodyasinfluentialand
respectedasKingwasgoingtobeallowedtosaythethingshedidwithoutmakingWashingtonnervous.
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Bitcoinwascreatedtocashoutthemoneystolenfromthepeopleviathestockmarketcrashin20082009.
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Bushdid9/11.It'sincrediblyplausible,whenyouthinkaboutit
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FBIassasinatedMLK
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Bushdid9/11
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AmannamedMayorAmschelsinglehandedlystartedthemodernbankingindustry.
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PaulMcCartneyreallyisdead.
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[] hotcheetosandtakis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThelostCosmonauts.Prettyamazingthoughtthatthefirstmaninspacecouldactuallyhavejustbeenthefirstmantogotospaceand
returnalive.
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MichelleObamaisadude.ThereisabigchancethatMichelleObamaactuallywasbornwithapenis.Theirchildrenisprobably
adoptedandhermalebonestructureisjustoneoftheevidencesthattheycanthideoutwhenyouseeherinmediaorthatcantbe
changedregardlessofhowmutchfeminehormoneshehavebeengottenorhowcustomisedherhaircut/clotheslooklike.Herindex
fingeristallerthantheringfinger,hershouldersismaleishandshewasevenborninthefuckingcapitalofgendertransexinUS.Would
befuntoseehowalltheconservativemuricanswouldreactwhentheyfounditouthaha.
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[] CeasarTheFirst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OPisafag.
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[] Neverseenagoodday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthisquestionkeepscomingupeveryfewweeks?
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[] sprucetrap87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DonaldTrumpisashadowcandidate,meanttodrawcriticismawayfromseriousRepublicancandidates.
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[] Chaito undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wellshadowcandidatestendtobelike"ughatleastheisnotasbadastrump,illvoteforhiminstead!"trumpisactuallyalsoabsorbing
positiveviewsandgenerallygulpwining.
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It'sstillveeeeeeeeeeeryearly.HowardDeanwaswinningatthispointtooandwasthendisqualifiedforafistpump.Rubio(IMHO
themostelectablecandidate)ispollingveryrespectably.
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Thatisaveryinterestinguseoftheword"serious."
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Well,comparedtoDonaldTrump...perhapsIshouldhavesaid"electable".
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Yeah,Iwasjustplayingaround.Iwouldsaythatisamoreagreeableword.Also,you'reright,thatseemslikeapretty
legitimateconspiracy.It'sbeeninthebackofmymindsincetheracestarted.
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[] ViridianCovenant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNSAhasbeenspyingonAmericanswithnoprobablecauseforyears,probablyoveradecadeatthispoint,andthegovernment
hasasecretcourtputtogethertojustifytheassassinationofkeyUScitizens,allundertheunspecifiedauthorizationofthePatriotAct.If
anythingaboutthisisrevealed,theywillsimplyreasserttheirauthoritymorebroadlyandmoreopenly,whilewideningthescopeofwhat
isconsidered"topsecret"todeterallinvestigation.
Haha,justkidding.Imean,couldyouimagine?
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adecade?morelike5
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Veryinteresting,thoughIthoughttherewerealreadycontingencyplansforthisoccasion,weren'tthere?Iremembertheyhada
similarissuewiththesecretmurdercourts,wheretheyneededspecificpermissions,sotheysetupanautomationsystemto
technicallygivethemselvespermissionimmediatelyandbydefault.We'llsee,Iguess.
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HahaifonlyweBritishhadn'tjustimplementedsecretcourtshaha.
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[] WillBegForPizzaBites undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyhoardinformationforsure,anddevelopsoftwaretoeasilyfindoutwhereanybodyiswithapushofafewbuttons,butthere'sno
warehousefullofhobbitsandoompaloompasactuallyspyingoneverybodyjackingofftopornandSkypingwiththeirGrandma.
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Ofcoursenot,that'salwaysbeenaredherring.Imean,sure,I'dknocksomeoneoutiftheywerelookingintomyprivateaffairs,and
certainlywealreadyknowthatthiskindofstalkerybehaviorhasbeendonebyNSAemployees,buttherearemuchmore
scandalousthingsgoingon.Forinstance,theyhoardlotsofinformation,asyousay,andeveryoneknowsit.Andsinceeveryone
knowsit,theyareadefactoauthorityonanythingthathappensontheinternet.Soifpoliticaldissidentshappentobelockedup
indefinitelyfor"terrorism"orsomesuch,there'senoughplausibledeniabilitytogetawaywithit.Afterall,theyhavealltherecords.
They'retheauthorityonthematter.Nevermindthattherecordscouldbeeasilyfaked,that'sjustaconspiracytheory.Don'tbe
ridiculous.
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[] verisimillipede undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haha.Oh,theoutrageifthatevercameout...
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thisisprobablytrue,butthatlevelofpowerwouldnotworryaboutthisevercomingoutastheywouldcontrolthewholeshow
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[] Taofish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CIAkilledJFK
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Someredditorsleavecommentssotheycanreplyfromanotheraccountwithsomethingwittyandfunny.
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[] JerkwaterJeff666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KennedywasassassinatedbytheU.S.Government.
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[] camk16 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] wasthereadogwithyou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheprivatelyownedcentralbankpressuresandtrickstheUSAgovernmentintogoingtowarsoitcanprofitfromthehumongous
loansithastotaketofundsaidwars.
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[] dickensong undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RobZombieisadedicatedJehovah'sWitness.
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[] deadboyslikeme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tellmemore.
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[] p4lm3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11.IstillbelieveitcouldbeourGulfofTonkin.WearefriendlywiththeSaudifamily,immediatelyflewthemhome.TheSaudifamily
exportsWahhabism.TheBushfamilyhasbeenfriendswiththeSaudifamilyfordecades.DickCheneywouldbenefitenormouslyfrom
awar.
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NASAiscontrolledbythegovernment
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Thatpeoplemakethisposteveryotherweekforkarma
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SRS
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[] americangame undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mattressstoresareafrontformoneylaundering.
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[] whatdoy0uknow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
seriouslythishasbotheredmeforyearsImeanthey'reopentil10pm.whoshopsmattressesatnight?!Iseemultiplemattressfirm
shopsinthesamecityIreallywantanamafromamanagerexplainhowtheymakeprofit
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[] BillygotTalent undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SameisprobablytrueforChineserestaurantshereinGermany.Theyonlyacceptcashandtheiremployeeschangequiteoftenand
thefoodisdirtcheap.
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Theycouldbehopingtomakesomebigbucks.FromwhatIhearmatresseshavestupidhighprofitmargins.
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[] PQFU undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soispizzaking.Nooneeatsatpizzaking,ever,andit'sexpensive.
Thereare5inmytownandtheyareinhorriblelocationsandalwaysempty.
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[] PeenuttButler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inmycountrywehaveglassesshopsthatopen24/7.Whothefuckneedstogetaglassesatthemiddleofthenight?
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[] Berg426 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Houstonhashundredsofmattressstores.Likewaymorethanthepopulationshouldbeabletosupport.
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IknowIliveoffthegulffreeway.EveryexitfromDixiefarmto646hadatleast1mattressfirm.TheNASA1exithas3and646has
2inthesameshoppingcenter.
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[] uppstoppadElefant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theworstaregyms.Ibetahugeportionofallgymsouttherearemoneylaunderingschemes.Youcanbuyathousandgym
memberships1000dollarsamembershipandlaunderamilliondollars.Whocanchallengeyou?Youhavemade1000gymcardsand
whatcanthetaxauthoritiesgoingtosay?NoIdon'tbelievemrJohnssonbutagymcardlastyear.Justkeepthelogsofhowmany
gymcardsaresoldandswipedfakeandprovinglaunderingisextremelyhard.
Gymscanalsoweaslyoutoftaxeseasilybecuasegymshavealotofdebt.
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Suchabetathingtosay.
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[] uppstoppadElefant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damntelephone
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[] wittyusername1234 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItookatriptoCaliforniarecentlyandtherewasamattressstorein(whatfeltlike)everyplaza.Iwascompletelybaffledbyit.
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[] meatfrappe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthiswhymycrazyuncleisalwaystellingmetohidemymoneyundermymattress?
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[] Brewe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thesamegoesforcasinos,although,atcasinosit'sthecostumersthataredoingthelaundering.
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moneylaunderingrequiresalotofundocumentedcashingcomingin:gambling,vendingmachines,pinballmachines,etcporn
theatresusedtobetoobeforetheycloseddownwhichishowDeepThroatisclaimedtohavemadehundredsofmillionsofdollars
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Laundromatsareafrontforlaundering.
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[] rugtoad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BetweenNWOhioandDetroit,ifyou'reinanydecentlysizedcity,you'llfindsignsonthesideoftheroad,handwritteninblacksharpie,
whichareadvertising"mattressesstillinplastic!"
Ihavenoideawhowouldthinktocallanumberlikethat,norhowthereissuchamarketforit.Mywifefiguresthattheyaresomesort
ofcodefordrugsorhookersorsomething.
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[] DrStephenFalken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavenoideawhowouldthinktocallanumberlikethat,norhowthereissuchamarketforit.Mywifefiguresthattheyare
somesortofcodefordrugsorhookersorsomething.
Nothey'resellingrealmattresses.I'minOhiobtw,there'safewmattressfactorieshereinOhio,MIandKentucky.Sooneofthree
thingshappens.
1. BillyBobhashiscousinbysomemattresswithhisemployeediscountsandthentheysellthemoutofastorageunit.
2. Stevebuysawholebunchofmattressesfromahotelsupplierwhohasoverstockoracancelledorderandthenoperatesby
appointmentsolelyoutofastorageunit.IboughtthemattressI'mcurrentlyusingfromaguylikethis.I'vehaditfor3years
nowandit'soneofthebettermattressesI'veeverowned.Theytendtocarryalldifferentpricerangesandqualities.
3. Aforeigner(usuallyIndian)runsalowrentfurnitureshopandthat'shisformofadvertising.
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[] Narcolepzzzzzzzzzzzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthey'repassingthesavingsontoYOUuuuuuuuuu!
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[] cant_hold_me_down undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NobutcheckcashingstoresandcoinoplaundryandcarwashesABSOLUTELYare.Theyarethebestkindofbusinessesforthatsort
ofthing,outsideofmunicipalgovernmentcontracting.
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[] Belazriel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverunderstoodwhyprofessionalservicesweren'tusedtolaundermoney.SayIsetupalawfirmandchargemyclientsfor
"consultations"andthenhirevarioussecretariesandassistants.
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Howwouldthatwork?Unlesstheassistantsarethepeoplesellingyourdrugsandthathowyoupaythemtheircut,it'sjustan
unnecessaryexpense.
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Canconfirm.EveryhighprofiledrugdealerI'veheardabouthasownednumerouspaydayloanfranchises.
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Yes.I'llseeahandcarwashoperatingonaweekendwithhalfadozenguysjustsittingaroundonlawnfurniture,nocarsinsight.
Whataretheywashing?Whoispayingthemweekendrates?
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[] akhbox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoesthatworkwiththesebusinesses?Whatdoes"outsidegovernmentmunicipalcontrol"mean?
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Anybusinessthatlegitimatelyhandlesalotacashcanapplyforanexemptionofbankingreportinglaws.Thenyoujustslowly
funnelintheillegalmoneyintoyournormalbankaccountandmakestockpurchases,etc.withit.Congratulations,thatcrack
moneyisnowclean.
Municipalgovernmentsareoftenvery,verycorruptand/oroperateinfearoflocalorganizedcrimeelements.Thecrime
syndicateswill"convince"localgovernmentstogivethemcontractsformanagingcityservices,likegarbagecollecting.You
useyourillegallygottenmoneytopayforexpenses,addalittleaccountingmagic,andboom!yourlegitimatepayments
comingfromthelocalgovernmentfor"servicesrendered"willneverbequestioned.
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[] diothar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Couldyouelaboratemoreonthe"accountingmagic?"
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Makethingsdifficulttotrackduetoyouraccountingmethods.Onlythemostdeterminedauditorswillstickit
throughandrealizethatmoneyisappearingoutofnowhere.
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Thinkit'sworsetohaveitappearoutofnowhereordisappearintonothingness?
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Dependsonwhoislookingatit.
TheFDIC?Appear.
Shareholders?Disappear.
TheIRS?You'refuckedeitherway.Althoughtheycarealotmoreaboutdisappeariftheyarebeing
honest.
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Interesting,thanks!
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They'recashinhandtransactions.Theonlyrecordforincomeisyoursayso.
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[] The_Actual_Devil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notforcheckcashing..
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[] Forever_Man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theeconomywouldcollapseifmattresseswereeversoldatfullprice.
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Theymarkuponmattressesarealready200%+Theentireindustryhastakencheapmaterialsandturneditintoascaminaway
becausetheyknowpeopleneedthem.Somesprings,foamandfireretardantfabricaren'tthatexpensivetoproduce.
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[] leroybigsby13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Explainthismoreplease
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InmycitythenumberofmattressstoresisequaltoorgreaterthanthenumberofSubwaysand/orStarbucks.
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[] GaryColemansForearm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Htownholditdown
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[] wahwahwaahhh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIamfromHoustonandworkedforMattressFirmforalmost4years.Nomoneylaundering,just70%margins.
Ridiculous.
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[] OliverCloshauf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Reallyanythingthatitsculturallyacceptabletohaggleoverpriceandifitisasmallenoughoperationitprobablyiseasytofly
undertheradar.
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wat
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ppleonlybuymattressesonceevery10yearsorso.it'saprettypopularopinion
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[] Jay_Burd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionthere'slike30oftheminmytown
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[] RaceRelation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PakistanwashidingandprotectingOsamabinLadenandusinghimasabargainingchipinnegotiationswiththeUS,whoeventually
wentaheadandkilledhimcovertlywithoutPakistanipermission.ItexplainswhyPakistaniAmericanrelationstookahitinthemonths
followingOsama'sassassination,whyOsamawaslocatedlessthantwomilesfromPakistan'sversionofWestPoint,andwhythere
wereadisproportionatenumberofhighlyqualifiednonmilitarydoctorsinthearea.
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Thatoneissemitrue.ThePakistanisecurityserviceswerebasicallysplitintoonefactionthatfavoredtheTaliban,onewhichfavored
theUS,andthePrimeMinisterandtherestofthegovernmenttriedtoplayoffbothsides.
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[] HisMajestyWilliam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouareoverestimatingPakistan'scompetence.
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"bargainingchip"forhwat??
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[] xokocodo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'llbite.Howwouldthis"bargainingchip"possiblywork?AssoonasPakistantoldtheUSwhereOBLwas,couldn'twejusthavekilled
himrightaway?
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TheUSwasnevertoldwhereBinLadenwasbyPakistan.Somereportsputhimthereasearlyas2006,sopresumablyPakistan
hidhimthereandonlyUSespionagewasabletopieceittogetherwithoutthePakistanigovernmentknowingit.IsuspectPakistan's
goalwouldhavebeentoturnBinLadenoverinexchangeformoreforeignaidfromtheUS,USsanctionsagainstIndia,orsome
otherdiplomaticaction.
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[] ridush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thepointisthattheywouldnttelltheUSwherehewastilthedealwascomplete.Theywouldjustprovethattheyhavehimwith
photographicproof,thennegotiate.
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[] Boringui undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthem.
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[] ksearing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Watergatewasaninsidejob.
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[] cryptobum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Numberstationsareusedtobroadcastsecretmilitarycommunications.
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[] hiro111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nadal'sinjurybreakacoupleofyearsagowasreallyahusheddopingsuspension.Thisseemsextremelyplausible.
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[] Rosaly8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OrabreaktogethisOCDtreated?
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[] SheldonAdelson69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatAmerican/IsraeliJewsoverwhelminglydictateourforeignpolicyintheMiddleEast.
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[] ILikeThemCallipygous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MosquitoescantransferHIVfrompersontoperson
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[] VolvoKoloradikal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'llberightback,needtoscrapethesnowoffmycar.Don'tlettheclockthreadgetoutofhandwhileI'mgone!
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[] FpsAmerica902 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Reptilianbrotherhood.'Nuffsaid.
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[] Ebicre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BruceWillisisdeadbuthedoesn'tknowthat.
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[] Bengalman753 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasstaged.surprisedthisonewasntatthetop.SomuchevidencethatthegovernmentisatleasthidingSOMETHING.
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[] OneOfTheOnly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Istherethough?
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[] resistedsuicide undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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ThatReligiousZealotsarerunningtheGovernmentsoftheWesternworldandareactuallyseekingtobringontheApocalypse.
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[] CustosClavium undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllthesemoviesandshowsaboutZombiesandtheinevitablecollapseofcivilizationasweknowitaresimplyawaytoeaseusinto
acceptingthatsuchaneventcanhappenandhowtoactwhenitdoes...becauseitisinevitable.NotthatforrealZombiesaregoingto
happen,butthatweregonnaroyallyscrewupatsomepointandgetsentbacktothe"darkages",sotospeak.
Maybethere'ssomeactivesecretgroupwhoisrichandpowerful,buttheyfeelhumanityisheadeddownthewrongpathandweneed
toreset...sotheygotawaytodoit(EMP,Virus,Nukes)butarepreparingusthroughpopularmediasothatsomeofuswillcope,
survive,andthrive.
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[] roadpupp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'thaveallthelinksandgenerallyavoidconspiracies,ButInowbelievethattheusgovernmentcreatedLymediseaseandit
escapedorwasreleasedfromplumislandofftheConnecticutLongIslandcoast.
MostLymesufferersbelievethisasdomanylocalswhohaveseenit'sspreadradiatingfromthatlocation.BigGunboatspatrolthat
areaandthereappearstobecredibleevidence.
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[] Rosaly8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likethediseaseyougetfromticks?
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[] roadpupp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes.Googleitandyouwillgetatonofhits
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[] dmo99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ourowngovtisresponsiblefortheheroinepidemic.ItstartedwithfloodingthestreetswithprescriptionopiatesmainlyOxyContin.The
pillsdriedupandwasquicklyreplacedwithheroinwhichnowcanbefoundonalmosteverywhere.Callitpopulationcontrolorcallit
wateringdownthecompetition.EitherwayI'mconvincedofit.Ohandtoboottheprogramslikemethadoneorsuboxonetonamea
fewallfundedbyGovt.
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[] _Snurps_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] ChainChompsky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
The1999MoscowapartmentbombingswerecarriedoutbytheRussiangovernment.
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[] kronospear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leafyisalizard
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[] CaptainKulcha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thepatriarchy.
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[] ThePrincess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThefirebombingattheReichstag.
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[] danniro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OPshould'vetaggedthisserious...Somanythingsherearebs
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Whoareyoutodecidewhat'sBSornot?It'sconspiracytheories.Ifhetaggeditserious,modswouldhavetheabilitytocensoritonthe
groundsthatsomethingwasn'tseriouswhenitverywellcouldbe.
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WellIwashopingtolearnsomethinginterestingfromthis,insteadit'sjustfullofpeoplewithridiculousopinions,nothingwell
substantiated
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That'sexactlywhatalizardpersonwouldsay.
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[] Memphians undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kleenexmakestheirtissuepapershavemicroscopicpaperparticlesthroughoutthetissuessothatitirritatesyournoseandmakesyou
needmoretissues.
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[] iamthegratest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BUSHDID9/11
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[] RewindYourTapes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gov'twasbehindMartinLutherKingandMalcolmXassassinations
Alsotheorizedtheywerebehind2Pac'smurderbutfactsalwayspointedindifferentdirections.Idon'tthinkSugediditthough
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[] Caperhclo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasstaged/fake.
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[] thestrehlzown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] TheSurgeonGeneral undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIlluminatiexists.Obviouslythey'renotknownastheIlluminati,buttheideathattherichcontrolthepacing&directioninwhichwe
progressatis/shouldberecognized.Notinordertocollectivelygrabourtorchesandpitchforks,butbecauseacknowledgingit,wouldin
myopinionhelpthislittlesillygroups"ISIS"forexample,cometogripswiththefactthatwhatthey'redoingisafutilehiccupinthelong
chainofeventswe'vealreadysetintomotion.It'sjustholdingusback.ISISisone.Republicansanother.Evendemocratsandmovie
stars,oranyactivistgroupsupportingacause.Theyallscreamprosperityandhopeforall,andtheystillcan'tfigureoutthat'swhat
they'reshouting.Theyallbelieveit'stheirownindividuality,andit'scauseextremeseparationbetweenthespecies.Longstoryshort.
We'refuckingchildren,andweactlikeit.Timetogrowup,asawhole.
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whataboutISISwereemployeesoftherich?,ImeanIhonestlydontbuyyoujustcankill120inParis,andhideanywhereintheworld,
ifyoucanhide,itjustsimplymeanstheydonotwanttofindyou
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Tobefair,therichandpowerfulhaveprettymuchcontrolledthingsthroughouthumanhistory...doubtthey'dletalittlethinglike
democracystopsuchalongandstoriedtradition.
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[] mcooper64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StevieWonderisnotblind
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[] Hypocritical_Oath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,he'snotblindinthewaythatthelaymanthinksblindnessiswhereyoubasicallymayaswellhavenoeyesforallthegoodtheir
doing.Heishoweverlegallyblindwhichmeanshecan'tseeshit,butstillretainssomevision.
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[] dackots undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneismyabsolutefavorite.Noexplanation,noreasontomanufacturethis.Justabsolutelywonderful.
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[] Trengence undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Apollojustice,istheyyou?
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[] Iwritewordsformoney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HE'SDEAF!
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[] Merteg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myunderstandingisthatitispsychosomatic,hewatchedhisbrotherdrownanditwastraumaticenoughhelosthissight.Soheisnot
physicallydisabled,butpsychologicallyheis.
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[] ClownQuestionBrosef undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughthewasbornpremature,withhisretinasnotproperlyattached...?
(Ifyouweremakingajoke/reference,itwentwayyyovermyhead)
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[] unidentifies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youransweriscorrect.
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[] Paul_Hommala undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyouseenhislatesthairstyle?He'sdefinitelyblind.
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[] Red_Cheddarz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IstheWeekndblindtoo?
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No,justdrunk/high.Sohemayaswellbeblind
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[] MisuseOfMoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IIRChe'sonlylegallyblind,not100%can'tseeathingblind.
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[] captain_chao undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisavideoofhimcatchingafallingmicrophonestand.Imonmobilesoicantfinditrightnow.
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[] AceKenshader undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebts1FMCgb4
Mostlikelyexplanation,whenPaul'sheadbumpsthemic,Steviehearsitand,assumingit'sgoingtofall,stickshisarmout.Ifhe
canseeit,hisaimwaswayoff(theguitarplayernexttohimactuallydoesthecatching.)
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[] Hingl_McCringleberry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswouldbeeasytodebunktho,couldn'tsomeonejustwalkupandseeifheflinches?Youcantrainyourselftoactblindforyearsbut
thatwouldn'tstopthenaturalreactiontoflichI'dsomerandomwalkeduptohimandIDK,tookaswing?
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[] YorkshireASMR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'savideoofhiminaperformancewithothers,andinfrontofhimamicstartstofallover.Nooneelsenoticesitbuthe
reachesoutandgrabsit.
Inthemiddleofaperformance,hehearsthismicstarttofallover?Ithinkthisconspiracyhasweighttoittobehonest.
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[] Crowedog74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iactuallysawastudy(longtimeagoandIcan'treallycitespecifics)sayingthatblindpeoplecan"feel"theemotionsconveyed
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bypeopleintheirexpression.Ithadsomethingtodowiththeinformationstillgoingtoyourbraindespiteitsinabilitytogive
yousight.Icouldbemiscitingaswell,butIfeellikethesethingsarerelated.
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[] abw80 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://youtu.be/Ebts1FMCgb4
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[] deusmilitus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://youtu.be/ziWySuvZun0
Forthelazy.
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[] CothranTyson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhearaguyrunningpastyouandthensuddenlyapopinthemic.Itdoesn'ttakeeyestofigureoutsomeonejust
crashedintothemic.Hejustreacted,hewasn'teventheonewhocaughtthemic
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[] GinjaNinger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idunno.Paul(where'stheconspiracyforhim?)bumpshisheadonthemic.Thatwouldmakeanoise.Butinthevideo,I
don'tthinkit'sStevie'sarmwesee,buttheguytohisleft.Andtheguytohisrightmovedtocatchthemictoo.Isayit's
inconclusive.
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Therealkickerisstevemoveshisheadtocontinuetosingtothemic
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Istillneedmoreevidence.Itcouldbecoincidencethatheturnedhishead,orheturnedhisheadbecause
Pauljustranby.
I'mnotsayingheisn'tblind,justthatthisvideodoesn'tproveitconvincingly.
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Heclearlystopsclappingtoreachoutforit.Ibetthat'snotevenStevieandthereisamuchbiggerconspiracy
goingon.
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[] Gbcue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buteveryonestopsclapping.
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Thatoneguytotheleftofthescreenkeepsclapping,butthosearoundSteviestop.
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[] BassInRI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seblindpeoplearen'tcompletelyblind,andyestheairdisturbance,plusifhe'ssingingandhehearshisvoicetrailawayand
he'snotmovingthenI'msureheknowshismicstandisfalling.Thisishisjobplushe'sasuperhuman.Anyworldclass
musicianisasuperhuman.Musicjustdoesn'tgettherespectitdeserves.Superhumansarecapableofsuperthings.That's
whyitimpressespeoplewhocan'tdoit.Steviewonderisdefinitelynotfaking
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[] CapnKetchup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Musicisn'tsuperhuman,wtfareyouramblingabout.
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[] BassInRI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Golookatamusiciansbraininacatscanwhenthey'replayingandyou'llseewhatImean.Theydida
documentaryaboutit.Ifudon'tplayIdon'texpectutounderstand.Whenuplay,somethingspecialhappens
whenyou'reinthezone.Samethinghappenswhenudoanythingreallywellprettymuch.Exceptwhenureddit
reallywell.ThTdoesn'twork
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[] xxMarsxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somethingfallingcandisturbtheairaroundit,ormakesound,andsomebodythatisblindcouldhavehisothersenses
heightenedenoughtosensethesoundorchangeintheair.
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Onlyanecdotal,butacoolstory.
IdothesoundforaJaminmytownandthereisablindkeyboardistwhoisfantastic.Heoncecaughtafallingguitaron
stagewhichwasincrediblyimpressivetome.Hesaidheknewtheyweretherebecausetheyareeveryweekandhefelt
itfalling.
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[] euphguy812 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stillabitofastretch.
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[] InFunkWeTrust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsohowdidthestandstartfalling?Somethingmusthavehititandmadeanoise,alsohowmanyyearshashespent
onstage,andspentallofthattimetraininghisearlynotonlyformusicbutalsotomakeupforhislackofvision?Icould
seehimbeingninjalike
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[] leprecan61 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JerichowasforcedofftvbytheUSgovernmentbecauseittoocloselyresembledthewaytheIraqoccupationwasplayingout.Plus,the
possibilityof25nuclearweaponsbedetonatedin25Americancitieslikelihoodismuchhigherthanwethink.
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[] JerichoLT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'trememberthat
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[] nimbusdimbus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalwaysthinkofBSGwhentheywereonNewCapricaandtheyhadpeoplesuicidebombingtheCylons.
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[] ChaoticSquirrel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwasthewholeideabehindit!
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[] horoblast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tknowtheseries,isitworthit?Justasaseriesordoyouhavetolookalotforadeepermeaning?
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[] delsignd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Top3favoriteshowsforme.Season1isgreat.It'sadystopianpostnuclearapocalypseshowwithbigreveals,cliffhangers,anda
goodstory.Actingisn'tgreat.
Justwatchthefirst2episodesandseehowitgoes.It'sonNetflix.
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whatreallycanwedotostoptheJewsfromexecutingthesewarcrimesonus?
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[] dankmernes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'salsoalargerconspiracywhereanythingIenjoymustbetakenfromme
Sorryfireflyfans
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[] protomd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...Ididn'trealizethiswasn'taboutthewrestlertillIgottothenukes
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Thatsoundsnuts
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heh
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[] hamgoblin45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Woah,Itotallydidn'tnoticethis.Gottarewatch
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[] nwsm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaven'tseenJerichobutthepossibilityofdetonating25nukesintheUSseemslikesomethingyoucan'treallymiss..
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[] Surtysurt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyeahhaveyouseentheblastradiusofthosebabies?
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[] 1nsaneMfB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Almosteverycountryissmartenoughtoavoidmutuallyassureddestruction.
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Damnthatshowwasgood,too.Netflixshouldtotallystartitbackup.
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[] demonxcat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverytimeIwatchseason2episodesIalwayswonderhowsomethingthatpoliticalmadeitontoCBS.
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[] trangquility undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bigcorporationscreateillnessesanddiseasejustsotheyhaveanindustryinsellinga"cure"ortreatments.Anybodybelievetheirisa
curetocanceryet?
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[] Strkszone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everytimeanoperatingsystemperforms"updates"itissecretlyloadingfilestomakeyourcomputergoslowerandslowerto
encourageyoutomoveontothenextcomputermodelandmakethemmoremoney.
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[] Zalintis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SuperSoldierprograms...inmultiplecountriesandtimes.It'sprettyobviousarmieswouldlookathowtomakethebestpossiblesoldier
throughdrugs,augmentation,conditioning,andtrainingbutI'msayingthereisalotofthatoffthebooksduetoHumanRightsissues.
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NotreallyaconspiracytheorysincetherearedeclassifieddocumentsprovingthattheUSdidresearch"supersoldier"programsduring
theColdWar.I'lltrytofindasourcelater,onmobilerightnow.
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[] eatsshitsrepeats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwasprogrammedbytheCIAtogo
Oswaldwastippedoffandtookhimoutfirst
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[] pinpoint14 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
saudiarabiaisisis.com
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[] narrativesonrace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HurricaneKatrinawasamanmadedisaster
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[] TheSholvaJaffa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sprobablymoreadvancedtechnologyavailablethanwecanimagine,butbecausewe'renotreadyforitit'sbeingslowly
assimilatedintoourlivesonalevelthat'sconsistentbutgraduallyincliningsowecanfullygraspit,andsothatcompaniescanmake
moneybyreleasingaslightlyupgradedmodeleveryyearorso.
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[] flezzefur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11insidejob
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[] Shaharlazaad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBushfamilycaused9/11sowecouldinvadethemiddleeastfortheirpreciousoil.
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[] Oklahom0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheWBCarecountertrollswhopretendtobethemostvilepeopleonEarthtomakeantigayandantimilitarypeoplelooklikethe
scumoftheearth.
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[] European_Soccer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
R+L=J
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[] caldera15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911.Idon'tthinkthegovernmentcausedittohappen,butI'mconvincedtheydidn'ttrytheirbesttostopit.Itwastooperfectlytimedfor
theBushregimetoadvancehisNeoCongoalsofinvadingIraqanddestabilizing...er...bringingadvancementtotheMiddleEast.This
issoobviousit'snotevenreallyaconspiracybutIthink911couldofbeenstoppedoratleastmitigatediftheadministrationatthetime
didn'thaveaperverseincentivetoletithappen.
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[] zerogravityfat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Militaryiindustrialcomplexfundsbothsidesterroristsandstatestomakemoneyoffofwar
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[] Squidman512 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BushmadetheplaycallfortheSeahawkslastyearduringthesuperbowl
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[] Good_Eatin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillCosby'ssonwaskilledasretaliationforsexualassault
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[] suspendedfromthemoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookingdirectlyintothesunwillgiveyousuperpowers,butthegovernmentdoesn'twantyoutoknowthat
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[] nssone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Woohoo!IjusttriedthisearliertodayandIgainedtheevilsuperpowerofmakingtheworldgoblack.There'snowayofgoingback,
either.
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[] K4nnyC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
911beinganinsidejobtopromotepublicsupportforwar.USAhasbeenatthisforover100years.It'snothingnew.
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[] BigglesNZ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mstillnotentirelyconvincedabouthumanmoonlandings.Ifeellikeifitwaspossibleatleastonemodernmultibillionairewouldbe
postingselfiesfromthere.
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[] forreallyrealstho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youcanliterallyseethemoonlanderifyoulookthroughatelescopepowerfulenough
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[] Rephaite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irecallreadingthattherearecurrentlynotelescopespowerfulenough.
Iwassurprised,untilIconsidereditmorecarefully.Mostofourtelescopespointmuchfurther,butalsopointatthingsmonumentally
moremassive.Alanderisnothingcomparedtoastaroragalaxy.Thechangeindistanceisdwarfedbythechangeinsize.
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ohyeahiguessyou'reright.here'saguideonhowtogetascloseaspossibletho.
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/celestialobjectstowatch/moon/howtoseeallsixapollomoonlandingsites/
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[] Darth_Poopius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheeasiestwaytodebunktheMoontinhattersisthattheUSSRwouldhavedebunkeditinasecondifitweren'ttruetohumiliatethe
US.TheyhadaLOTmoretogainfromexposingaconspiracythansomebasementinternetwarrior
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[] TonyTabasco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatBirthControlformenisnotavailablebecausetoomanywomenwhocheatwouldgetcaughtwhentheytelltheirBFthey're
pregnantbyhim.
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Lolitcanbeexplainedwithsimplyscientificlogic...
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eli5?
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Wellunlikewomenwhoarebornwithalltheireggs,menproducespermthroughouttheirlife.Femalebirthcontrolworksby
telliingthebodyit'spregnant,howeverobviouslythiscouldn'tbedoneformales.Soformalebirthcontrol,theywouldneedto
eithera)stopproductionofspermorb)renderspermsproducedineffectiveoffertilizing.Forthefirstoption,doingthiswould
runtheriskofthemalenotbeingabletoproducespermagain,oraswell(ifproductionishalted).Forthesecond,future
spermproducedoffbirthcontrolcouldhavedefects.
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Isee,soneverornotimesoon:/
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[] Trakanonn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BernieSandersisrunningtomakeHillaryseemmoremoderate.
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[] Funkays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mileyciruswasmurderedbackin2007duringaconfrontationthatresultedwhensherefusedtosleepwithherproducer.Inorderto
coverthisstoryuptheyfoundayounglookalike,gaveherslightsurgerytoreplicateMiley'sfeaturesandprovidedherwithoriginal
Miley'swealth.Havingbeenjustanormalgirlsuddenlythrustintostardom,shehasgonealittlewild.Gottentattoos,cutherhair,and
shiftedtoamoreprovocativeimage.Shehasmillionsnowandcandowhatevershewants.There'salsotherumorthatherdadknows
itsnothisrealdaughterorhasfullydisconnectedfromherduetothesuddenchange.Comparisonsbetweencurrentfacialstructures
andpreunhingedfacialstructuresshowsslightvariance.Can'tgrabtheimagesduetomobile,buttheyareoutthere.
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Anyevidence?Comparisonphotos?Backwardsmaskingandcluesinhersongs?
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Andhersinging?
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[] GrandMasterReddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SopeoplearepullingthePaulMccartneyonMileynow,huh?
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[] iamcolinquim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
orshe'sjustalittlewhorelikeeveryotherstarlet.
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[] suspectnumber3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavetogoagainstthisonelargelybecauseshewasadisneyproperty.Disneyisveryprotectiveofanythingoftheirs.Shewouldhave
beentheresponsibilityofsomevicepresident.Ihonestlythinkitwouldbemorelikelythatdisneywouldhavekilledaproducerthanlet
anythinghappentoher.
Falloutwithherfather,isright.Actingout,yeah,itisoneoftheeffectsofdisney(seeBritneySpears).
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[] Srlasher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sandyhookwasahoaxtohelppassgunlaws.ThemoreIlearnaboutitthemoreIbelieveittobetrue.
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[] beccaonice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahallthosegunlawsthatgotpassed.Yep.
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[] Andynot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Why?Ihaveseennothingtosupportthis.
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[] nsentrepreneur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatcanadaisslowlybutsurelybecomingpartoftheUnitedstates.
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[] Chalupacabra007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UndercoverLAPDofficerscreatedthetrendofwearingjeansattheirkneeswithboxersshowingtomakeitharderforsuspectstorun
fromthenormalcops.
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[] StealthBlue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatNASAhassomeevidenceofAlienlife.IntelligentorotherwiseI'mnotcertain.Butdefinitelylife.
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Chemtrails.Outofalltheconspiraciestheoriesthisisthemostlikely.Therearedeclassifiedgovernmentprojectsthatdetailtheir
attemptsatmindcontrolbysprayingcertainchemicalsinpopulatedareas.Theycouldbesprayingformindcontrolorpossiblyinan
attempttostabilizeouratmosphereorreverseglobalwarming.
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[] tornato7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source@
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[] SherlockHolmes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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TheUSplannedtocrashplanesintobuildingsinordertostartawarwithCuba.
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[] Sir_Factis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellwhereIliveconspiracytheoriessuchas9/11wasaninsidejobarepopular.SoImightblieveintothatbutthere'sabsolutelyno
wayoftellingifthat'strue.I'veneverevenbeentoUSAletalonetheplacetheywerebuiltat...
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[] Saltynutsinyourmouth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohgreatdon'tgetRedditstartedonallthisshitagain
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TheNorthVietnamesedidn'treallyshootataUSshipintheGulfofTonkinwhichignitedtheVietnamwar.
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DirectorsoftheCentralIntelligenceAgencyhaveplayedgodsooftentheyhaveconvincedthemselvesittrue
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[] ZutaTheFox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,thisturnedouttobetrue
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[] amisupposedtopost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snothingtheoreticalaboutthis,youjustdescribedthepublicrecord.
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[] willyolio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CIAaidsIsis/daesh.
Gettingridofpeoplewhoaren'tcuttingdealsfortheUS.Doesn'tmatterthemethod,aslongastheleadersaretoppled.AlsoUSAis
friendswithSaudiArabia,whoarebasicallyISIS.
Alsonothingnewinthatregioneither...RememberthattheUSAputSaddamHusseininpower,thengotridofhimonlywhenit
becameinconvenient.ISISisn'tinconvenientyet.
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ehhh.theusahasothernonstateactorsintheregionitcouldfundwhoareclosertotheirideologicalline.
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[] Georex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThateversinceworldwartwotheAmericangovernmenthasbeenrunningsecretoperationsdestabilizinggovernmentsaroundthe
worldforeconomicgain.Andthatthey,usingmindcontroltechnologyfromMKUltra,createandsupportradicalislamicterroriststobe
usedastools.Theythenstage,ormorelikelyincite,attacksontheunsuspectingpublictofurthertheircontrolovertheAmerican
peoplethroughsurveillanceandsoon,militaryonthestreets(asseeninbrussels,homeofNATO).Then,usingtheconflictsinthe
middleeast(syria),theyaretryingtoinciteworldwarthreewithRussia.Leadingtototalnuclearannihilationofamajorityoftheworld's
population.Onlythosewithinthissecretgovernmentgroupwillsurvive,lefttoreclaimtheworldastheirown...ori'vebeenplayingtoo
muchfallout.
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[] roguecit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,thebeginningofyouparagraphhasbeenproventobetrue.TheAmericangovernmentcausedmorethanonecapitalist
dictatorshipinlatinamericainthe60sand70s.Includinginmycountry,Chile.
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[] the9trances undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotthattheUShasanybusinessinterferingwithcountriesthatdon'texpresslywantourhelp,butChilewasabletoshakeoff
socialisminawaythattheirneighborsareonlydreamingabout.So,whileithaditsdefinitedownsides,atleastit'snotsocialist.
That'sprettygreat,overall.
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andwecontinuetillthisday.exceptwe'vealreadydealtwithsouthamerica.Nowit'stimeforthewholemiddleeast!NextstopIran!
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[] ikorolou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ImeanthewholestabilizinggovernmentsforeconomicgainhasonlybeengoingonsinceWWII,golookupwheretheterm"Banana
Republic"camefrom.Shitsbeengoingonforoveracenturyatthispoint
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nobutafterWWIIwesetupthemiddleeastforfutureoverthrow.TheUShasbeeninwarfor214of236yearsinitslifetime.Does
notsurpriseme.
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[] ferromagnifique undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idunno,IwaswithyouupuntiltheRussiathing
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youknowturkey(anatomember)andrussiaarebecominghostiletowardseachother.Wealsogiveturkeymoneyfortheirmilitary.
Tisaconspiracyafterall.
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OhGod,don'tgetmestartedonTurkey!TherearedocumentsthatshowproofthatthecurrentpresidentliterallyBEGGED
AmericatomakehimthepresidentofTurkey,andinexchange,hewoulddoliterallyanythingforthem.Thereisalooootof
bullshitgoingonrightnow.Ourcountryisliterallybeingtornapartrightnow,andIfearforawar.
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[] Mazzaroppi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OsamaBinladenisnotdead.
Imean,that'snotevenaconspiracytheory,itbafflesmehowit'spossibleanyonewouldbelievethatthemostwantedmanfora
decade,whosechasejustifiedawarinAfghanistanwouldhavebeenkilledand"oops,droppedhisbodyontheocean"withabsolutely
0evidenceofanyofthateverhappening,andyearslaterseveralofthepeopleinvolvedintheoperationdyinginoddways.
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[] qwerty_asdzxc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
theyburiedhimatsea,that'skindadifferentthanjustlosinghisbody
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[] Mazzaroppi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIknow,butthat'sawfullycovenient,no?
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[] qwerty_asdzxc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeaitis.althoughitwouldmakesensethatyouwouldntwanttomakeanymoreofamartyr
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[] PuffPuff74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellBinLaden'sbeenprettyquiet,no?Ithinkhe'sbeenseenhavinglunchwithElvisonaprivateislandsomewhere.
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[] horsiefanatic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwaskilledbytheCIAand
ElvisPresleydidn'tdiewhenwethoughthedidbutinfactwentintowitnessprotection
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[] olumide2000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pleasesaymore.WhywouldElvisbeinwitnessprotection?
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Hedidn'twanttokeeplivinghislifeasastar.Hediedthough.Inhis80s.Abodywaslaterfound.
Maybeit'sallnottruethoidkI'mjustopentoit
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[] PrimalTriFecta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
100%onthefactthatSugeKnightinjectedEazyEwithHIV.AsSugesaidinaninterview,"youcan'tkillpeoplewithgunsnowadays
yougottainjectemwithAIDSorsomethin."(atleastthat'showIrememberitI'mtoolazytolookitup.
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Ithoughthesaidsomethinglike...dippingabulletinaidsbloodorshit..toinfectfromwithin.
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[] RWBIAD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsohesetTupacuptodie.
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YeahbutIbelievethattoo.ButtheEazything...Nofuckingdenyingatall.FuckSugethatpieceofShit.MybarberlookslikeSuge
buthe'schilltho.
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You'reright.Heisaprick.
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Nahmanmybarberdoesgoodwork.Respectfuldudeandistrulygreatfulfortipsunlikethatonedickheadwhojusttold
methepriceofhaircutsis$20somethingdollarscauseheassumedIwouldn'ttip.Thatdudedidn'tevendoasgoodof
aJob....HahahainallseriousnessthoSugedirectlyhastakenawayatonfromsomanypeopleindifferentways.
Hopingheislockedupforlifeandrapedinjail.
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AhtheoldRedditbarbaroo.
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Iwouldn'tgosofarastowishthemangetsraped.Severelybeatenmaybebutrapeisalittletoofardon'tyou
think?
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Ifthedudekilledpeoplethere'snotmuchlessIwouldwishonhim.Especiallytheamounthe'stakenaway
frompeople.Iwantthatfucktofeelsomepsychologicalpain
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Iguessyoumakeagoodpoint.
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[] VeryGreenFridge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] mcflurryXD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaveyoueverreadthebookAmericanConspiracies?
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[] _shadow_banned_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Collusionbetweencompaniesandthegovernmentisagiven.
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[] invertedwut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anythinginvolvingthereptilianshadowgovernment.Source:amareptile
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[] Swanksterino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nosir,youareaSHILL!(hadtobedoneonceinthisthread)
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[] hypnos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Apparentlythemcdonaldsmonopolywasrigged.Assholes.
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[] moogledoogles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Antivirussoftwarecompaniesaretheonescreatingvirusesthemselves.
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[] tbird42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneofthefewonherethatactuallymakessense.
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[] Diggasson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:ReasonsIthinkeveryaskredditthreadshouldbe[Serious]
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[] thisismyworkacct undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthereisasecretsubredditthatgettogether&upvotestupidridiculousposts
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[] pseudonarne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
russiangovernmentmurderedthosekidsindyatlovpass.literallyeverybodyknowsit
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[] Tacosheller undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThegovernmentkilledMLKJr.IdunnoifIpersonallybelieveitbutIwouldn'tbesurprisedifitwasproven,especiallyconsideringa
statecourtruledinfavorofthefamilyonacaseaboutit.
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[] BCawth06 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarBinksisasith
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HowcouldthatdumbasseverbeaSith?!?!
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[] Marysthrow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
pocketsinwomen'sclothingaretinytokeepususingpurses.
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[] SpookySkeletalMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11isaparttimejob
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[] _Space_Marine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11...Neverquiteunderstoodhowacoupleofguyswithassembledrazorbladesmanagedtoholdanentireplanehostage.Thewar
onterrorwascreatedthatdayandallitdidwascreatemoreterror.
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[] mostimprovedpatient undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Previouslyflightsweretrainedtoletthepersontaketheplanehostageifthistypeofsituationhappened.Before9/11planeswouldget
hijackedandforcedtolandsomewhere.Thiswasusuallydoneinordertogainsomethinglikesomeonebeingreleasedfromjail.Now
wewouldneverletsomeonetakeaplanehostagewithasmalknifebuttheyassumeditwouldendpeacefullylikemanysituations
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[] BurtGumm3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ProfessionalanalysisoftheWTCremains,findingevidenceofforeignexplosives.
http://www1.ae911truth.org/documents/WTCDustSignature_ExpertReport.051304.1646.mp_.pdfPeerreviewofthatanalysis.
Oryoucouldgowiththeotherguy.../s
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Previoustothosehijackingswhenaplanewashijackedmostpeoplegotoutsafely.Theplanewasdiverted,maybemoneywaspaidor
somethingalongthoselines.Airlinepersonnelwere,Ibelieve,instructednottoresist,asthatwasthebestwayofinsuringthesafetyof
thepassengers.Justlikehowclerksaretoldnottoresistinarobbery.Itisgenerallythesafestthingtodo.
Sopre911itmakesperfectsensethatafewguysforcedflightattendantstogetthemintothecockpit,wheretheythenkilledthepilots
andattemptedtoblockthedoors.Nooneonboardcouldevenconceiveoftheideaofasuicideattackusingtheplanesasweapons.
Theideawasalwaystokeepeveryonealive,soyousubmittotheirdemands,taketheplanetoCubaorwhereverand,ultimately
everyonegetsoutalive.
911changedthatmentalityandasimilarattackwouldnotbesuccessfultoday,butthingshavechanged.Basicallytheideaofgettinga
flightattententorpilotkilledsoyoudidn'thavetospendadayinsomeforeigncountrywouldnothaveoccurredtoanyone.
It'seasytolookbacknowandsay,thepassengerscouldhavestoppedit,andtheycouldhave,infactdidontheflightthatcrashed,but
thissortofattackwasunprecedented,therulesweredifferentthen,atleastasfaraseveryoneinvolvedknew.
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[] beterence undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneofthoseKennedyassassinationconspiraciesisprobablytrue
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[] Heinricher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11insidejobjetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeams
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You'reright,onlyfiremeltssteelbeams.Isstupidtothinkjetfuelmeltsiron.
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[] andlessthan000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notexactlyaconspiracytheoryasit's100%true,butprobablyconsideredassuchbymany.
IsraelisNotMuslimsCheeredinJerseyCityon9/11
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MaybebecauseitservedIsrael'sstrategywell.
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[] Slaythedevil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NFLisjustaplantationownbythesamekindofpeoplewhoownplantationsforthepast400years.Ifyouareanogoodtothemslave,
yourdone.
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[] JeremyArroyo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GovernmentkilledJFK.Bushdid9/11
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[] assoncouchouch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jr.
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[] ScootMcBiscuit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatbigmusicappslikeiTunesandSpotifyplaythesamesetof50/100somethingsongswhenyouhit"shuffle"
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[] dbh8650 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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IthoughtIwastheonlyonewhonoticedsuchproblem!
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Nope.Ihaveajamsplaylistthat'sover6dayslong.IstillmanagetolistentoIgnitionRemixbyRKellytwiceinthesame30minute
triptoTacoBell.
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[] ScootMcBiscuit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sirritatingwhenyoulistentoaplaylistwith700+songsandhearthesame50songsoverandover
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[] Defreshs10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheUSgovernmentdoesntcareaboutISIS,theirmainpriorityistogettheSaudileader,Assad,outofpowerandtoreplacethe
entiregovernmentwithademocracywechoose.
Source:SamethinghappenedinUkraine,audiowasleakedaboutwhowouldbeinpower2weeksbeforeprotestsbrokeoutand
leaderfled.
Source2:Iraq..
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BasharAlAssadisthePresidentofSyria,NOTSaudiArabia
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[] ActualDemon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thateverymonthorsooneofthesequestionsappearsbecausethegovernmentwantstoknowhowclosewearetothetruth.
Putsontinfoilhat
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[] Voice_of_Reason_Wins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CIAistrainingISIS.
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Doh!Andatthegraduationceremonythestudentsbingebeheadthetraineesasasignofappreciation.
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[] norml329 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Truthisactuallyfundedbybigtobaccoasawaytoadvertisetoyouthaswellastokeepsmokerstokeepsmoking.Wouldyoueven
hearabouttobaccoandcigarettesdailyifitwasn'tforthem?Nottomentiontheircommercialsmakeabsolutelynoattempttoprevent
peoplefromsmokingortohelppeopleseektreatment.
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Asasmoker,everytimeIseeoneofthosecommercialsIimmediatelywatacigarette
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[] TheAE86ofMtAkina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Watchingthemmakesmewanttogooutandbuyapack.
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[] Fragabond undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itworkedonmeasateenagerandonthroughmy20s.Iwouldseethosecommercialsandgetselfrighteousaboutmyhabitbecause
ofhowridiculousthecommercialswereandhowindignanttheywereaboutnotsmoking.
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Agreed.IalwaysthoughtthesamethingaboutDAREandThePartnershipforaDrugFreeAmerica.Theywanttomakeitseemfunor
funny.Theywanteveryoneondrugssothey'renotathreattoclearmindedpowerpeople.Theywantyoutobeavailableforjailatall
times.Theywantyoutogotohell.TheyaretheDevil.TheDevilislooseonthisEarth.
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[] jumpman_33 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeahthepeopleonthoseadsaresuchrudeassholes.....makesyouwanttoblowsmokeintheirfacesjusttospitethem
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[] Millmaj10s undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheTruthisliterallyfundedbyasettlementbetweenthefourlargesttobaccocompaniesandtheattorneygeneralsof46statesin
November1998.
Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Agreement#Proposed_.22Global_Settlement_Agreement.22
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[] tair20 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therewasapostthathitthefrontpageawhilebackabouthowtherhetoricofantismokingadsactuallyencouragesfolkstosmoke.
Theymakeyoufeellike,asasmoker,you'readeadlostcauseandshouldcontinuesmokingsinceyou'vealreadysoldyoursoul.
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[] Rich77u undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostantitobaccoispayedbytobaccosoyes
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[] hopsizzle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Truthisfundedbythemthough.
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[] bishkek2lebanon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'tsurpriseme.
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[] masscool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IjustwanttosaythatIclickedthewrongthreadthinkingthiswastheoneaboutwhatmentalhealthpatientssaidtotheirpsychologists.
Iwasconfusedandintrigued.
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[] Bkradley1776 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youreallyshouldhaveaddedtheserioustagtothisquestion.
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[] cyberslammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatlettuceisthemaincauseofsalad.
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[] CatalystCoin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisacabalthatsetsupthesequestionsin/r/askredditandthenupvotesstupidanswerstomakepeoplethinkthatallconspiracy
theoriesarebunk.
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Israelisrunbyjews
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[] nice_halibut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemurderofBillCosby'ssonEnniswasretributionforhisfatherpullingoneofhisdaterapeQuaaludestuntsonthewrongwoman.
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Didn'tthewomenwhoaccusedBillCosbyofrapeadmittobeingpaidtosayit?
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Yeppppp
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Chemtrails,forsure
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[] E3Ligase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
4chanusersconspiretorepostthiseverymonthtomakeRedditmoreboring.
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Ienjoytheposts.Althoughtherepostedcomments15timesisannoying
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[] SwearWords undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NFLbeingrigged.
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TomBradyincidentisevidence.ViewershipwouldtankiftheNFLdidn'tstartdramaeveryfuckinyear.
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[] SwearWords undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
True.Theremainingviewershipwouldbefansofthegameandteams.Heavensforbidthathappen.Imean,who'llbuyadifferent
team'sgeareveryotheryear?
Yeah,shitgetsmytinfoilsensetingling.
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[] hilarymeggin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IreadinacompletelyunreliablebookofconspiracytheoriesthatmorethanoneemployeeofthefacilityatRoswellconfessedontheir
deathbedstohavingseenalienlifeformsthere.Ifthedeathbedconfessionthingistrue,Ihavetosay,itmakesmewonder!
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Iknowanengineerthatworkedthereandsaidthatmostpeoplehavenocluewhattheyareevenworkingontheresincetheykeepitso
compartmentalizedifalienswerethereonlyahandfulwouldhaveevenknown.
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Thatthereisaverysmallgroupofindividualswhocontroltheworld/financialsystem.Andworldhungercouldbewipedoutalongwith
othertravestiesbuttheyaretoogreedyandwrappedupintheirownagendas..
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[] greylorn2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So...byhisfatherinordertostorethings.
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[] yoyopro3210 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somebrandsputkillswitchesontheirphonessothattheydieatacertaintimeoncommandorwhenanewphonecomesout.
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[] holaemailer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cancerhasacure,butthetreatmentsaretoomuchofabusiness.
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Excepttheydonot.
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[] holaemailer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saconspiracytheory
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[] slayez06 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NicolasCageisactuallyimmortal
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[] JackPux undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tupacisstillalive.
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[] ZanzabarOHenry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarBinksistrulyaSithLord
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[] Sanhael undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSisbeingtransformedintoadystopiathroughtheactionsofashadowgovernmentcomprisedofcorporateinterests.Thetop
0.01%willliveinblissfulignoranceoftheoutsideworld,whiletherestofusexistinconditionsofimpoverishmenttosupporttheir
lifestyles.Theendgameishighwalls,privatearmies,martiallaw,theworks.
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[] rabidbasher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyouread1984?
That'swhereIseeAmericaheaded.
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[] DNSTrickery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh...nope.
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"Richpeopledon'thavetoplotwitheachother.Theyallthinkalike."
~GoreVidal
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Nottrue.Peoplemakedifferentsacrificestoattainthatstatus.Thatstatementisnomoresubstantialthananymarketingslogan,
andisoneofthepiecesofpropagandausedtobringthisveryendabout,bytryingtosuggestthattherestofussimplydon'thave
whatittakesto"be"rich,inherently.It'spartofaclassbasedagenda.KindofliketheDevil(whoseexistenceI'mnotsuggesting,
merelyusingtheexampleasananalogy),thegreatesttricktoaclassbasedsocietyistopretenditdoesn'texist,thenenactitinall
butname.
Therealityisthatnoonepersoncandoanythingthroughtheirowneffortstoearnbillionsofdollarsinasystemthatallowspeople
working40hoursperweektoearnlessthan$1500permonth.Ifthelatterisaviablemeasureofaperson'sworth,thentheformer
necessitatestheinvolvementofnumerousotherpeopleinacquiringthatmoney,whereupontheirshareoftherewardmustbe
broughtintoquestion.Youcan'tsaythatthemultibillionaireCEO"earned'$250Minagivenyearthroughmaintainingacompany
thatwasalreadyoperationalwhentheyearbegan,whosebottomlevelemployeesdon'tearnenoughtosurvive.Thereisnolevel
onwhichthatmakesanysenseunlessyouarechoosingtoputtheCEOonapedestalbaseduponsomequalitythatdoesn'tinvolve
hisownactions.
Besides,gettingbacktoGoreVidal'sslogan,thosewhoaresimply"rich"aren'ttheproblem.Sixfigures?Millionaires?Whenthe
timecomes,they'llallbeonoursideofthewall.
ThepeopleI'mtalkingaboutarethewalkingblackholes,theonestowhommoneywasfunneledviaReaganomics,whowe'renow
toldsomehow"earned"billionsandbillionsofdollarsthroughtheirowneffortsastheycontinuetotakeaneverlargersliceofthe
pie.It'snoteventhetop1%thatownsmorethanthebottom90%it'sthetop0.01%,andthat'swhatweknow(i.e.,whatisopenly
andofficiallyacknowledged).
It'snotnew,either.Inthelate1800s,duringthelastindustrialrevolution,therewerefamilieswithmoremoneythanthegovernment.
Thatmoney,andthosefamilies,didn'tsimplydisappear,andthere'snoreasontobelievethattheydidorthattherestofushave
anyconceptofwhatthey'reworth.Despitethat,thepeopleupheldastoday'swealthiestareallmysteriouslyselfmadebillionaires,
noneofwhomcomefromthefinancialdynastiesestablishedoverthelastcoupleofcenturies.We'resupposedtosimplybelieve
thatthefortunesofthelatterallturned,withoutthatactuallybeingupheldbyanyevidenceotherthanthestrangelyuniversalclaim
thatallofthismoneywassimply"givenawaytocharity."Everytimeeverytimeanopenlywealthyindividualorfamilydynasty
hitsacertainlevelofprominence,theysuddenlyannouncethatupontheirdeatheverythingisbeingdonated.Viacharitable
organizations.Unmonitoredfoundationswithnooversight,ofthetypethattheyalreadyusewhilealivetodistributetheirmoneyto
familymembers.
Basically,everytimesomeonehitsacertainpoint,theydisappearfromthereckoning.Ibelievethattherearefamiliesouttherewith
somuchmoney,workingtosuckinsomuchmorethroughallbutpassivemeans,thatthey'resimplyremovedfromthecaresofthe
worldtoanextentthatpeoplelikeBillGatesandWarrenBuffetarenot.Asunlikelyasitis,thefortunesofthelattercouldstillturn.
TheendgameI'mreferringtoisatippingpoint,whentherearesomanypeopleinthatclassificationthattheycan'tsimplyhide.I'm
notsayingit'sgoingtohappenin10years,orin100.WhatIamsayingisthatin5075years,theGatesandtheBuffetswillbe
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replacedbythenextgenerationof"selfmadebillionaires,"andpeoplewillsnickerderisivelyatthenotionthatthosewhoholdthat
statustodaydidn'tactuallygivealltheirunimaginablewealthaway.
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InterestingthatyoumentionBuffett,asheisanotherofthosewhohavesaidthey'dbedonatingtheirfortunes.
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Ispecificallyfocusedonthatpoint.Thisalwayshappens.Theirfortunesare"left"tofoundationswhichhaveno
oversightanddonotreportonhowtheirmoneyisspent.It'snotjustonoccasion,it'svirtuallyeverytime.WBhas
alreadysetupcharitablefoundationsforhisfamilymembersthechildrenhe'sleaving"nothing"tohaveactuallybeen
givenmillionsofdollarstodatethroughtheirprivatecharities.
Trustfundshaveoversight,andrequirecertainconcessionsintermsofmanagement.Thesameregulationsdonot
applytocharities.
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OJ'ssonactuallycommittedthemurders.OJdeliberatelydrewtheheatbecauseheknewthattheywouldn'tbeabletogetaconviction.
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Didyoureadthebook"OJSimpsonisguilty,butnotofmurder"?
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NoIdidn't!Ireada100%factualcommentinasubthatsaidthatOJtoldittoafriendofOP'sdad.
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[] Scionstorms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithink911beingfakedoratleasttheUSknew.IsreallysomethingIbelievetobetrue.
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Fakedwouldbereallyreallyhardtodo...Iwouldn'tgivethemthatmuchcredit.
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[] IHNE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gotor/actualconspiracies
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[] Imamover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatCourtneyLoveisresponsibleforthedeathofKurtCobain.ThedocumentarySoakedInBleachjustwentuponNetflixandmakes
averystrongcaseforthis,checkitoutifyougetachance,it'sfascinating.
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[] HeavenPiercingMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probablysomemundanepoliticalcorruptmaneuver.
Bytheway,takenotehowconspiracynutscomeintotopicsallcalmandcollected,actinglikesomeonewhoisdeeplythinkingusing
rationalthoughtprocesseslikeaprosleuthandtryingtobaitintopeopletakingtheirdelusionsseriouslyundertheguiseofconstructive
analysis.
Butoncepeoplesay"yourargumentsarenotconvincingme",theydropthefaadeandbecometheravinglunaticstheytrulyare:
"Wakeupsheeple!","urapaidshill!",etc.
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[] WheresMyMoneyDenny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcan'tmeltgrassyknolls.
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[] Beanis69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkCourtneyLovestartedtherumorthatshekilledKurtCobain.Thatwayshe'dcontinuetobeinthespotlight.
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[] Pinworm45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dbelieveUnited93wasshotdown
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[] davidjricardo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamaisaKeynesian.
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Andacommie
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[] Delsana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattherereallyisaNewWorldOrderofsomesortwiththewealthiesttryingtokeepthepoordown.Imeanthedecisionsotherwise
arejustsoirrational..Congressispureidiocyandcorruption..
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Youcancreatewhatevertitleyoucanthinkof,thewealthiesthavenointentionoftradingplaceswiththepeasants.
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[] chamzeh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthem.
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[] MF_iiFORMAL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid911
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[] Turbatron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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Gygaxcreateddungeonsanddragonsforthegovernmenttoidentifyandmollifythemathsavants.LaterFantasyFootballwascreated
forthesamereasons.
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Icouldbuythat.
...rolls1d201foraPerceptioncheck...
...4.
Sorry,Idon'tbuyit.
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[] xMizukun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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9/11didBush
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[] NovelTeaDickJoke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jfkassassinationholdsthemostwater.
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[] JustCallMeDave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatMcDonald'sMonopolygamewasfixed.
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[] brandononrails undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thishasbeenproven
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[] crake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemassshooterphenomenonistheresultofaU.S.militaryexperimentgonewrong.Themilitaryhasdevelopedcertainexperimental
drugsthatincitehomicidalaction,foruseagainstenemytroopsorenemyciviliansduringwar,inordertocreatechaosthatcanyieldan
advantage.Thegovernmentteststhesedrugsonmentallyillpeoplebecausethatprovidesthemwithacoverforwhenthepersonturns
homicidal.Manyschizophrenicsstoptakingtheirmedswhentheystartfeelingtheeffects,andotherscomplainof"cameras"intheir
homesmonitoringthemallofthetimethesepeoplearenotactuallycrazy,theyarebeingmonitored.Theyarepartofnonconsentual
controlledexperimentstoseehowtheyreacttoweaponsgradedrugs.Thesedrugswouldbeeasytoswapoutinapatient'shomeorin
apharmacy.Theincreasingincidenceof"crazedactiveshooters"withseeminglynomotiveisaresultofthesuccessindeveloping
thesedrugs.WhatbetterexperimentalsubjectthanAdamLanza,akidwhoneverlefthisroomandcommunicatedwithhisownmom
viaemailonly?OrJamesHolmes,sequesteredinhisapartment?Theseshootersdon'tleavemanifestosbecausetheydon'thave
reasonsforbeingmasskillers.Theyallegedly"boobytrap"theirapartments,givinggovernmentagentstimetoclearthemoutof
incriminatingevidence.Effectively,thesepeopleareexperimental"zombies"whicharebeingtestedthemassshootingsarecollateral
damage.
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[] skip_2_the_loo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JackKilborn?
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[] Illier1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IpersonallyblameReaganandthemassshutdownofinsaneasylums.Thesedayspeoplewhoshouldbelockeduporsedatedare
walkingfreeeitherhomelessorasnormalpeoplebecausetheonlyplacestheycangoareoutrageouslyexpensiveplacesorthe
streets.Italsodoesn'thelpthatthissocietyjustsays,"takeapillorgetoverit"insteadofactuallyaddressingtheproblem
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[] Anna_Namoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Topiggybackonthis,thereal"gunnutmilitia"guysareactuallythesanestonesinourcountry.HereswhyWhenyouthinkofmilitia
people,whatimagepopsintoyourhead?Mostlikely,largeredneckguy.Wheredotheredneckstendtobe?Generally,intehSouthor
outwest.Whattraitissharedbyboththesouthandthewest?Morewellandspringwaterasopposedtocitywater,meaningno
fluoride,whichisaddedtomentallycontrolandmakepassivethegeneralpublic.SOtehstereotypicalredneckwith5teethanda"cold
deadhands"stickerisactuallythepatriotbentonsavingtherestofusfromtyranny...
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Theyjustsubstitutefluoridewithmethanddesolatepoverty
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[] thefran undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ithinkmethismoredamagingtoyourpsychethanfluoride.
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[] JohnFinnsWife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoddammitIhadacoworkeratmylastjobcheckherselfintoapsychwardandcomeoutthinkingeveryonewasfilmingher.I'm
cosigningthisone.
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WhatIhavenoticedfromyearsoftherapyaswellisthatwheneverIamNOTintherapyIammuchlesssuicidal.Ihaven'tseena
therapistinayearandIhonestlyfeelbetterthanever.Nomedseither.
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[] goosfraba_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Psychiatryisdifferentthantherapy.
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Idon'tthinkthatisparticularlyrelevanthere
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YeahIwentoffmessabouttenyearsagoandsomehowforallmylows,onaverageIseemtodomuchbetterthanmyfriends
whoareconstantlyadjustingdosages,runningoutofthisorthat,ortryingsomethingnew.
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[] dingus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileIdon'tthinkthisisplausible,youmaylikethefilmJacob'sLadder.
"Afasttrip,straightdowntheladder,righttothebaseanger."
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[] Phrozen_Flame undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KindoflikeTheGuest?)
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Ioncetookapsychologyclasswherewewatchedavideoofaschizophrenicwomen,whichwastakenfromahiddencamerainsideher
housewithoutherknowledge.Shekeptrantingabouthowshewasbeingrecordedandthatpeoplewerewatchingher.Afterthevideo,
theteachertoldusthatthiswomenhaddelusionsofbeingwatched.Someoneintheclasssaid,"sheisbeingwatched,"andeveryone
intheclassagreed.
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[] SmashBrosEntusianst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesanyonehavealinkforthevideo?Soundsinteresting
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[] Bilbobagger288 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahI'monboardwiththisone,thisisdefinitelyrelatedtoMKULTRA.ToaddToaddtowhatyousaid,let'stakeJamesHolmes,the
manwhoshotuptheauroramovietheaterbackin2012.Hewasconsideredabrilliantyoungboy,andhewasheavilyinvolvedin
science.Hisonedreamwhenhewasyoungerwastoownapopcornmachine.Hehadnoincidentsasachild,nobehavioralissues,
nothingoutoftheordinary.Andthensuddenlyhesnappedandkilledoveradozenpeople.Hewentcrazy.Becausethat'showthe
humanbrainworks,peoplejust'gocrazy'.Everyonejustacceptedthisasitwastold.Theyalwaysdo,whywouldthegovernmentlie?
Everythingisallrightthough.EatyourDoritos,playyourscreengames,shutoutreality.
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brb,writingascreenplay.
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[] theappendixofchrist2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheysaidPROBABLYtrue.
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[] crake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Infairness,mostofthisthreadisconspiracytheoriesthatareprobablyfalse,somyfeelingisthatthethreadwasalreadyhijacked
bythetimeImademypost.
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[] llllll undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
gimmeaticket.i'mgettingonthistrainnow.justsoicansayiwasonitbeforeitwascool.
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[] William_gfl_gfs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isyournameliterallylifting?I'mmirin'.Also,I'mconvinced.
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Alwaysbesquattin,brah.
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[] Tavernicus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
3platesquat?
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A3platesquatis,assumingastandardbarweightof45lbs,315lbs.Iwarmupwithjustmorethanthis,butIam
alsoaverylargehumanbeing,soformybodyweight,thisisn'ttooimpressive.IfIweighed150lbs,itwouldbe
crazyimpressive.
Thatsaid,a3platesquatisgreatIfyoucandoit.Nobigdealifnot.Don'tstressaboutanyoneelse.Youliftyour
best,I'llliftmybest,andwe'llallbebros,regardlessofwhatwecanandcan'tsquat.
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AtthemomentI'mworkingtowardsa2platefrontsquat.Justmadeitarecentgoal,soonlyearlydays,but
shouldbeabletoreachnottoofardowntheroad.
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225onfrontsquatisnojoke.That'sawesome,bro.
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Cheersman,Iknowitwontbeeasy,buthell,that'swhyIloveit,nowalksinthepark.
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Sold.
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[] Byrne_XC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seriously?Thisisaskedalmosteveryweek.
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[] Ladybug2270 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthatthemediaisbroadcastingtheKartrashianstobringourIQlowerandlower.
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Orit'sjustgreedycapitalismbecausepeoplewillwatchthem,whichcausesanantiKardashiancirclejerkwhichcausesevenmore
peopletowatchthemandallofasuddenit'sabigcirclejerkvcirclejerkthatresultsinmediacompaniesmakingashittonofmoney.
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[] MyVaginaJustCant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyaremeantasadistractiontothepublicprobably.
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[] cerealgm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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Bushdid711,jetfuelcan'tmeltslushies.
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[] 0ntheWag0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Republicansworkonlyforthe1percentandpretendtheycareforthe99percent.
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[] _antwang undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TupacissecretlyhidinginArgentinawithAdolfHitler
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[] mhayden1981 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Someone'sbeenwatchingthe"History"Channel.
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[] doctorbooshka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatweareallactuallylivinginasimulatedrealityofourancestors.
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[] What_I_Thought undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igetwhatyou'resayingnow,butIthinktheterm'redundant'hereismakingthismoreconfusing,asit'snotreallycorrect.Siriisnota
redundantsystem,neitherwouldbeotherapplicationsorbackgroundsystemsthatarerunning.ButIgetyounow.Toomany
backgroundapplicationsrunningfromupdatesthatlesspowerfulphonesorsystemscan'thandle.
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Allprofessionalsportsarerigged.
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Idon'tknowaboutallsports(Motorracingisprettymuchimpossibletorigwithallthevariables)butIcandefinitelysaytheNFLis.
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Thisisyearsago,DaleEarnhardtcrashedandwaskilledatDaytona.ThenextyearhissonwinsDaytona.Coincidence,Ithinknot.
JeffGordonisgoingtoretirethisyear.Iwonderwhatnascarhasplannedforhim?
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JuniorisextremelygoodatDaytona.DEI,theteamhedrovefor,wasextremelygoodatDaytona.Notashockthathewon.
AsforGordon,theseasonalreadyended.Hestruggledmostoftheseason,gotonewinathisbesttrackthatgothimintothe
Championshipround,wherehefailedtowinthetitle.Ifitwasrigged,hewouldhavewon6+racesandtheChampionship.
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Idon'tfollownascar,didn'tknowifended.I'mnotsayingDaleJrisn'tabaddriver,butthereareplentyofgreatdrivers
anditjustseemedsuspiciousthathewon.Motorsportsishardertorigifinfactitis.Ijustthinkthereisalittle"the
housealwayswins"spinonit.
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MichaelWaltrip,histeammate,finished2ndanddidblockoffthefieldsohecouldwin,sothereisthat.
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99%surethisistrue.Like,really?TheNFLunsuccessfullytriestosuspendTomBradyandthenhecomesbackonarevengetourand
goesundefeatedsofardespitebeinganoldmanwithaninjuryriddledteam?It'sWWEworthyplot.Especiallysincethisisthesecond
timeit'shappened.LasttimethePatriotswereaccusedofcheating,theydidthesamethingandwent160intheregularseason.And
youknowwhat?Thewholeviewershipisriledupaboutit.PatsfansareriledupbecausepeoplethinkTomBradycheated,theother31
fanbasesareriledupbecausetheythinkthey'relosingbecausetheirteamdoesn'tcheat.Everypropersonalityisscripted.Iwouldn't
givetwofucksaboutMarshawnLynchifitweren'tforthewhole"I'mjustheresoIdon'tgetfined"personality.He'dbeanotherDarren
McFaddentome.SomeplayerIdon'tevenknowwhattheydo.ThenamesoundsvaguelyfamiliarbutIdon'tevenknowwhatposition
heis.Andtotopitalloff,Ithinkit'sPepsi,theyputhimwiththatpersonalityinacommercialwherethepointofthecommercialisthat
MarshawntriesPepsiandlovesitsomuchthathelosesthestandoffishpersonality.Thewholethingisbuiltaroundadvertising.You
knowhowmanyfuckincommercialsareinanNFLgame?EspeciallytheSuperBowl?TheNFLissosuccessfulataddingadvertising
tothegamethattherearepeoplethatwatchtheSuperBowlFORTHEFUCKINCOMMERCIALS.Theydon'twanttheactualmeat,
theyjustwanttobeadvertisedto.EverythingisscriptedperfectlytokeeppeoplewatchingNFLgames,watchingads,pumpingmoney
intomerchandgamblingsitesandfantasyleagues,watchingwashedupformerplayerstalkingaboutcurrentplayersonESPNandFox
(looknatyou,RayLewis,youmurderinsonofabitch)...
Asfarasothersports,PatrickKanejustbeatarapeallegationandcamebackwiththelongestpointstreakbyanAmericaninNHL
history.Samefuckintrope."Iovercameapersonalchallengeandnowlookatmygameperformance."
Atleastwrestlingisconfirmedtobefake.Everyotherprosportisstillpretendingitisn't.
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[] KevinMorganOfficial undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovehownobodyismentioninganyofthelegitimategovernmentconspiraciesbecauseitwouldbetoocontroversial.
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[] IgnazioPolyp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheJFKorchestrated,plannedandcarriedouttheJFKassassination.Thatshithappened.Canwejustadmititalready?
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[] thebigveet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] Lucasim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NavySealsandDiversShavetherelegsbecauseitisfastertogetinandoutoftherewetsuit.
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[] pokerpythondonut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AgroupofpeopleisreallyinterestedinanoldNBAstory.Oneevenpostedarandomquestionaboutconspiracytogetthe
conversationgoing.Someofthemmightnotevenknowsomeoftheothers.Yet,thisNBAstoryistoldbyrandomguys,butsomehowis
comingtogetherquitenicely...almostasfantasticastheBible.Oh...also,lotsofpeoplecanandwillattestpubliclythatMichaelJordanis
anasshole.
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Jordan'sfatherwasmurdereddotogamblingdebtsowedtothemob.
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[] Rokey76 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ObamaisacommunistreversemuslimbroughtupfrombirthbyreptilianoverlordstobecomePresidentandturnthecountryintoa
socialistmonarchy.
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Wellhe'sdoneashitjobsofar.
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[] Rokey76 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhathewantsyoutothink.
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[] Bolzenschneider undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somepoliticalonesareprobablytruebutitdoesn'tmatterifyouhavenomeansofobtainingthetruthforyourselfwyourowneyes
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[] askvictor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DonaldTrumpisactuallyaDemocrat,andis(somewhatsuccessfully)paintingRepublicansasbatshitcrazyandmakingthem
unelectable.
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IliveintheSouth.Believeme,there'snopaintingrequired.Thosearealotofconservativevotersnaturalcolors.Therealpaintingis
thecoatofpaintthatmostconservativepoliticiansputontoNOTlookbatshitcrazy.
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Let'sbehonest,he'snotthatclever.
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That'sexactlywhathewantsyoutothink
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[] Method__Man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idoubtthis.Tobehonestthiswholethingisforhimtobuildhisname.Thinkofhowmuchnamerecognitionhehasnow,thiswillhelp
himsellhisnameforevermore.
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[] Hedhunta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean....hewas..wasn'the?IswearIreadsomewhereheusedtobeademocratoratleastvotethatwayorsomething.
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Hewasbutitdoesn'tmatterheisinthisforhimselfhoweverheneedstomarkethimselfiswhathewilldo.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donaldtrumpdonationsdemocratshillaryclinton119071
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[] eds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
We'reinthemidstofWWIII.Anditisfoughtlesswithbulletsthanitiswithmainstreammedia.Advertisingmoneypaysforpublic
opinionthroughmessaging.
ITM
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Whatexactlydoyouthinkawaris?Isanykindofconflict"war"ifit'sonalargeenoughscale?Likeifdifferentcountrieswerealltrying
topromoteadifferentstyleofpizzaanddisparagetheothers,andthiswasalloverthemedia,wouldthatbeWWIII?
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thatdoesn'tsoundlikethekindofwarwithanendorawinner
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HaveyoulistenedtothisepisodeofRadioLabontheAuthorizationforUseofMilitaryForcethatallowsustogointothisendless
waronofterror?Fuckingmindblowing.http://www.radiolab.org/story/60words/
Afteryougivethatalisten,hereisa(2minute)YouTubevideoofthespeechCongresswomanLeegavetoCongress(mentioned
duringthepodcast),andher10thanniversaryof9/11speechtoCongress(5minutes)https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=y7dBqR8RBHc.
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Thewinnerofthewarisuptothehighestbidder,thepurchaserofthemostfascistfollowers.Everythingelse,allreal,physical
violenceofwaronlysupportsthatendgame.
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[] johannes101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
r/DarthJarJar
Readit.It'strue.
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[] WannabeXpert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"ObamaissecretlyaShiamuslimandisafriendofIran"Colleaguefrommylastjobactuallybelievesthis.Itchangesfrommonthto
month.
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[] UgUgImDyingYouIdiot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegreenmovementbeingusedbybillionairestograbtotalcontrolofresourcesandcreateamassiveglobalfeudalgovernmentunder
theguiseofequalityandsocialjustice.
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[] redeadhead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthem
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[] Xnewb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cokecontainscocaine.
Gottogetthemcustomersattractedright?
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[] rjfrost18 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
D+D=T
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[] BlackholeZ32 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:Conspiracytheoristsinsistingtheyaren'tcrazy.
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jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams.9/11wasaninsidejob.hitlerdidnothingwrong.
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[] Lakecrab undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noneare100%true...tellasecrettoafriend...tellthemnottorepeatittoanyone...waitafewweeksandseehowitcomesbacktoyou.
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[] laperuana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AssassinationofArgentineprosecuterAlbertoNisman(18/01/2015),justthedaybeforehewastodeclareatCongresshischargeson
thesoontobeargentineexpresidentChristinaFernandezdeKirchner(sheleavesthepresidencyin12days),they'vebeentryingto
ruleitasasuicideforthewholeyear
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[] laperuana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Possiblyonethemostdepressingeventsoftheyearforourcountry
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[] JackTheBandit000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noneofthem.That'swhytheyareconsideredconspiracytheories.
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[] IamJai undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcan'tmeltsteambeams.
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[] Frederic_Bastiat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNSAinventedthrowbackThursdaytogetpeopletodigitizeandpostoldpicstheywouldn'thavehadaccesstootherwise.
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[] mkkconnor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Impressive,StarFox
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[] sarahdwaynec undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisispostedoneverysingleconspiracytheoryquestiononreddit
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[] Estenoestaocupado undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myfanaticbrotherisgoingtogetcrazywiththisone
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[] CommanderCuntPunt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thensawouldhaveaneasiergettinghighqualitypicturesofkidsfromtheirschooldistrict.Professionallytakenheadshotsfromevery
yearwouldbemucheasierthanusingthrowbackThursdayasasource.
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[] markymrk720 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn,that'sgood.
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[] xsonderx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
makessense...
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[] Notorious_Park undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettysmart
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[] ReadingRainbowSix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'tsomeonehavetoverifythatallthosepicturesareoftheuser,andtheuseriswhotheysaytheyare,byhand?Ican'timagine
acomputerprogramthatcouldverifypeoplearewhotheysaytheyareonline.They'dneedtomakesuretheirinfoissolidbeforethey
canapplyitinanyusefulway.
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Totalitariangovernments,uh,findaway.
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[] hmb27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whatthefuck
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[] ZippoS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eveniftheyhadn'tinventedit,they'vesurelycapitalizedonit.
Andiftheyhadn'tthoughtofit,whoeverinitiallycameupwiththatconspiracylikelygavethemtheidea."Ohdamn,that'sbrilliant...we
shouldbedoingthat"
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[] impreprex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowaboutthemanyAskRedditpostsaskingpeopleforsecretsandotherprivateinformation?
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[] Andyk123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyfuck,thismightbethedumbestconspiracytheoryI'veeverheard
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[] testa12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TORwasliterallycreatedbythegovernment(navyIthink)butpeoplearesoretardedtheythinkitssafe.Thesafetyontheinternetis
fromsurvivalinnumbers.There'ssomuchtrafficitsvirtuallyimpossibletofindillegalshit.TORjustherdedalltheillegalshitintoone
place.Reallynicebaitandnetbythegovernment.
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YahI'vealwaysassumedtheDODstillrunsmostoftheexitnodesforthisexactpurpose.
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[] anitalizfajardo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoa.
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[] fireshaper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,thegovernmentistheonegivingoutthesefreecellphonesonthesideoftheroadtogetmoreciviliantracking.
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[] mikethemofo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Welllotsofpeoplewillbebummedwhenfacesareasearchablethingforthepublic.
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[] gaslightlinux undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetthingslike"PornstarName"whereyouputinyourhomestreetandmother'smaidennametogetapornname.Therewas
aninjanamegeneratorthatactuallyusedyourfullnametomakeaninjaname.
Maybenotgovernment,maybejustorganizedcrime,butallthatshitisbadnews.
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[] d1770 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
linksoritdidn'thappen.
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[] a_midgets_last_stand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatfacialrecognitionandageprogressionsimulationalgorithmshavetheyevercomeupwith?LikehowdidyoulandontheNSAvs
anyoneelse?
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[] Scoot_Jardine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tntutilizesolderpictureswiththemaindemographicbeingpeoplethatarestillaging.Thisisaflaw.Also,byObamaregulatedrulesthe
NSAcanhaveatargetscallsplustheircalls,whichiswayoutsideofthenetworkstheywouldbuild.
Goaheadanddownvoteme.I'maneducatedsource.
Source:MastersinComputerSciencefocusingondata
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Idon'tquiteunderstandyourcomment.Canyouexplainthisflawfurther?
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[] Scoot_Jardine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TomorrowwhenI'msoberisit....remindme1day?
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[] IsThisThingWorking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IoriginallyreadNSAasNASAandcouldn'tfigureoutwhyNASAwouldneedfacialrecognition.
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[] nerdytattoogirl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldtheygothroughthehassle?Theycouldofalljustbroughtinoldpicsofthemselvesorparents.Imeantheyhaveatleast
20,000employeesworkingthier.NowontheotherhandiknowtheNSAinventedminieggstopacifiythemasseswhilsttheyreadour
emails.
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IworkedwithacompanythatmonitorssocialmediatoprovidemegacorpswithIntel,andIamtellingyouitissimplystaggering
whatcanbeaccomplishedwhenyouhaveaccesstoaninsaneamountofdata.Notonlycanyoulearnwhat'shappeningnow,but
canactuallyusethisisapredictivecapacitytopredictthefuture.Thisgoesdowntotheindividuallevel,peoplearecreaturesof
habit.
20kisnotenough.Theyneedtrillionsofpictures.Themorepictures,thebetterthealgo.
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[] SneakyRocket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inowhaveyoutaggedasnsawhistleblower/employee
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[] AuntieSocial undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
howaboutthose"Yourchildhoodpet'snameplusyourstreetisyourhookername"bullshit.Hello,y'llidiotsarepostingtheanswersto
yoursecurityquestionsonFacebook.
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"What'syourmothermaidenname,petsname,streetyougrewuponandfavoritecolor?SHAREWITHYOURFRIENDS"
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[] GiantNutZach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samewiththesnapchatfaceoverlays.Facialrecognition
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[] thisgrantstomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowaboutthisoneonlybecauseIthinkthey'dbemoreinterestedinhowyoulooknowandwouldn'treallycarewhatyouused
tolooklike.Thatbeingthecasemaybetheypopularizedtheselfietogetcurrentpicsfortheirdatabase.
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Helpswithageprogressionsoftwarethatcandeterminewhatsomeonelookslikewith10yearsaddedtothemetc.
Forexampleaterroristhasapicbutthengoesquitfor10yearssotheyrenderwhattheythinkhelookslike.
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[] partiallypro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNSA'sfacialrecognitionpalesincomparisontoFacebook's.IwouldratherfallfortheconspiracythatFacebookisincahootswith
theNSA.
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Thatispatentlyfalse.SimplybecauseweknowtheNSAhasaccesstowhateverFacebookhas.WhenIwasinthearmy8years
agowehadabiometriccamerathatwecouldtakepicturesofvillagersanditwouldidentifythemandletusknowiftheywerea
personofinterest.Iimagineit'sonlygottenbettersincethen.
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Justbecausetheagencyhadsimilartechnologyforlongerdoesn'tmeanit'sbetternow.Facebookhastonsmoredatatowork
withinrealtimeandhasmachinelearningtoitsadvantage.ThereisabsolutelynowaytheNSA'sdatabaseofimagescan
competewithFacebook'sandInstagram's.
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Thegovernmenthasalwaysbeenonaverageabout40yearsaheadoftheprivatemarket.Theyhaveanearlyunlimited
budget,norulestofollow,anddon'tneedtomakethetechnologyprofitable.
Everythingavailableontheprivatemarketthegovernmenthasatleasttheequivalentof.FacebookworkswiththeNSA
thereforewhateverFacebookhasaccessto,sodoestheNSA.
TheNSAhasbeenplayingthemachinelearning,facialrecognitiongamesincebeforeFacebookwasevenacompany.
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Thegovernmenthasalwaysbeenonaverageabout40yearsaheadoftheprivatemarket.
Thegovernmentwouldloveforthattobetrue,butit'snot.
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YoursayingFacebookhasmoredatatoplaywithetcbutI'msayingtheNSAalsohasthat,plusWAYmore
thanFacebookhas.Facebookonlyhasinfothat'svoluntarilyshared,theNSAlistensonwhatyouthinkis
private.
AndI'mnotmakingitup,thegovernmenthastraditionallybeensignificantlyaheadofthecivilianmarket.
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AndI'mnotmakingitup,thegovernmenthastraditionallybeensignificantlyaheadofthecivilian
market
Notreallysincethe80s/90s.Bureaucracymakesgovernmentslow,theycan'tinnovateatthepaceof
privateindustry.Evenwhengovernmentwas"fast"theystillreliedonprivatecontractorslike
Lockheed.Governmentisbehindthecurveonmostthingsoutsideofkillingpeople.
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[] melapot8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit.Youjustblewmymind.
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[] guernicaa19 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bruh...
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[] DaWorldIsSoSensitive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisactuallygotmethinking...
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That'sdumbaf
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Youstolethiscomment.
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Yes,thisthreadisaboutwhichconspiracyIfeelistrue.ThatconspiracyistheoneIfeelistrue.
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[] Lothar_Ecklord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndthirstyThursdaytoloosenthemuptopostpicstheyotherwisewouldn't
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[] RedditModsSuckDonkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundslikeittotallymakessense
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[] HazelRah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNSAorsocialmedia/advertiserspostallthestupid"Yourlastpurchase/yourmiddlename/whichcelebritysharesyoubirthday"
askreddit/facebookquestions.
Supereasywaytobuilduptheirprofilesandlinkanonymousaccountstorealpeople
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[] Gigglecreams undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisbrilliant.OnlyoneIhaven'theardbefore.
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[] GitEmSteveDave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhoinventedThirstyThursday?
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[] spamjam09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tightenstinfoilhat
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[] acidpoppy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellthenwhoinventedtoplessTuesday??
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[] ChoochiPastol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theguysatthetopwhowantbettertitsidentificationalgorithms.
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Patriots.
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[] metallikoh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThetheorythattheymadeFacebook.MarkZuckerbergwasjustadummytothemedia.
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[] unsub undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIAcreatedandownFacebookfortheirdataminingoperations.Thehugeinvestmentof$12.7millionthatgotFacebookoffthe
groundcamefromJamesBreyerwhoiscloselyassociatedwithaventurecapitalcompanycalledInQtel,whichwasestablishedby
theCIAin1999andheservedontheboardofBBN.InQteldealsininformationtechnologyandintelligencemostnotablynurturing
dataminingtechnologies.
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[] lucisadvocate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'ssayselfiestoo,toshowmultiplecurrentangles.
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[] trevor5ever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveafriendwhoabsolutelyswearsthatFacebookisactuallyatoolsubcontractedbytheNSA/CIA/FBI,andissetupasapublic
companytohidethetruemotives.Andbecauseifyoucanmakeaprofit,whynot?
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[] yetiorange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jokesonthem,myparentshaveneverneededareasontopostoldpicturesofme.Theytakegreatjoyinsharingbabyphotoswith
everyone.
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[] medpreddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
respect
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[] ccrunnerguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
understand....orstandunder....(don't)thinkaboutit,maannn.
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[] noreligionplease undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OBEY
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[] Donald_Farfrae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
False,itwasinventedbybasicbitchestojustifypostingveryoldpicturesofthemselvesthattheylookgoodin.
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[] Psirocking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
False,itwasinventedbyMySpacetohavepeoplelogintotheiroldaccountstoobtainphotos,gettingthemmuchneededsite
traffic.
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[] Schmucko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsfarasIknow,Ioriginatedthistheory.
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[] m1kael undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welcomeaboardsixmonthsago..prettyobviousvariantsofthistheoryarelikelytrueandhavebeendiscussedforyearswell
beyondfbandtbt.
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[] Getemouttahere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IveheardthistheoryforyearssoIdoubtit
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[] Phanduhugs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buthehasalink
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[] Trister0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlikedtheoneonPersonofinterest,thatthegovernmentcreatedfacebook,sowewouldshareallofthedetailsofwherewearegoing
andwhatwearedoingandwhowearewith.Iftheyaskedforitwewouldhaveriotedandfoughtback,insteadtheymadeit"cool"to
share.
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[] Based_Lord_Shaxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfacegotautorecognizedonapostIdidn'tgettaggedin.That'sliterallyTHEONETHINGIdidn'twantFacebooktobeableto
do.Ineverpost,andImessagelike1personandnoneofitissensitiveinfo.ButbecauseofOTHERPEOPLEIcannowbe
identifiedonasecuritycamera.Thatscaresthefuckingshitoutofme.
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[] Weed_Problems undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoumeaPinterest?
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[] hungry4pie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HighfiveforanotherPoIwatcher!Stillwaitingonseason5though:\
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[] BaldyFecker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plustheyreallyneededtoknowwholikesangelsthemost.AndwhatpercentageofthepopulationcantypeAmenwhenprompted
byaphotoofadisabledchild.There'sjustnootherwaytofindoutthatimportantshit.
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[] poppymelt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TechnicallyFinchcreatedsocialmedia.
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[] ccchuros undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow...thatseemedsoplausibleuntilyousaidthattheymadeitcoolsothatpeoplewouldgetinvolved.That'sjustcrazy.The
governmentcan'tmakesomethingcool.
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[] ZippoS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Governmentisnevernearlythatorganizedorcapable.Butthey'llsureashelltaketheopportunityprovidedbythirdparties.
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[] Professional_Lazyass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GodIlovethatshow.
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[] Confoundicator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CIA's'Facebook'ProgramDramaticallyCutAgency'sCosts
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Wellyeahwhywouldyouneedtocollectinformationaboutpeoplewhenyoucangetthemtowillinglydivulgeit?Thentgey
savethemassiveamountsofdataandqueryanyoneorthingwithouthavingtowasteagencyresourcesoncollection
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[] Davecasa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatshowhadprobablytheworstdropoffinqualityfrompilottoshow.It'snoteventheirfault,it'sjustthattheinitiallycoolpremise
gotoldbythesecondepisode.
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[] Swank_on_a_plank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mguessingyoudidn'tlastverylong.Thefirstseasonisveryepisodicandhardtobinge(watch1adayuntilyouneedto
upgradeto2)buttheyfixthattowardtheendoftheseasonandthesecondseasonblowsthepilotaway.Fromthereyouget
2extraseasonsofawesomewhileyouwaitaneternityforseason5.
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[] Professional_Lazyass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhavenotwatchedfarenough.
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[] Stubbledorange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisishowdemocracydieswiththunderousapplause.
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[] HairBrian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nobodywouldhavebelieveditwouldwork.
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FB...I?
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[] Gnome__Chompsky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCIA'sVentureCapitalarm(yes,theCIAhasaVCarm)wasaVERYearlyinvestorinFacebook.
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AndGoogle.
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[] Ethril undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Citationneeded
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[] Gnome__Chompsky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2013/06/14/inqtelglimpseinsideciasventurecapitalarm/
http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/19/inqtelciaventurefundbusinesswashingtoncia.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/25cuttingedgecompaniesfundedbythecentralintelligenceagency20128
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[] Kell08 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theserieshasprogressedtothepointthatthegovernmentnolongerneedsthis.
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[] kciuq1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'minterestedtoseewheretheytakeitinseason5.Itstartedoffasatwistonthestandardprocedural,andthentheytookit
wayintomorescifiterritory.
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Seasonfouriscompletelydifferentfromseasonone.
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[] RedAndBlackStillPlay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherewasanOnionvideoofthatyearsago,longbeforePersonofInterest:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0
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[] crowley_heath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theproblemwiththatis,itwasalreadycooltoshare.Facebookdidn'tinventtheideaofshowingpicturestopeople.Imean,before
facebookmyfamilywouldjusthaveabigstackofphotographsfromthelastvacation,orthatbirthdaypartythattheyshowedto
friends/familywhentheyvisited.
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[] persephone44 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'vemissedthepoint.Astackofphotosshowninpersontoafewpeopleisverydifferentthanpubliclyshowingphotosthat
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potentiallymillionsofpeoplecanview,ofteninrealtime,withtagsinformingviewerswhereyouareandwithwhom.Atany
giventimetherearemillionsofpeoplefreelygivinginformationaboutwheretheyare,whattheyaredoingandwhotheyare
with.
IfanyoneisinterestedI'mathome,onthecouch,eatingroastpotatoeswithmycat.I'mwearingflowerypyjamapants,my
backhurtsandI'malittlehighonoxycodone.Ishouldtakeaselfie,tagitandshareitwitheveryone.Oh,hangon,noone
caresandI'mnotanattentionseekingidiot.
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[] MrJed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,hangon,noonecares
Andthat'swherethetheorystartstofallapartimo.Howmanytimesaftersomethingbadhappensdowefindoutthey
wereopenlytalkingaboutitonlinebeforetheevent,andnoonesawit/tookitseriously?
There'sjusttoomuchinformationtorealisticallykeeptrackof.
Besides,howdoesinformationaboutwheretheaveragepersonisandwhattheyaredoingactuallyhelpthemanyway?
Ifyouareactuallyacriminalwith1/2abrain,you'renotgoingtobeputtinganythingusefulonthere.
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[] Alarid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jokesonthem,Iuseittopostedgymemes
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[] bdfariello undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisnotedinyourfile.Thereisahandwrittennotementioningthattheonefromacoupleweeksagowasactuallyquite
funny
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[] WastedKnowledge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PrettymuchverbatimaPeteHolmesbit
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Evenbetteristonotspendapennyinvestinganythingandthenoncesomeoneelseinventsitjustmandatethattheyhandoverthe
data.
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IkindawanttobelievethattheyWEREgoingtoinventFB&Google,butthensomeoneatthetopgothighonedayaswasall
"Dude,whydon'twejustwaittillsomeoneelsedoesit,andthenpassalaworsomethingsothey'llHAVEtogiveustheinfo...
wecanuseallthedickpicswe'vestolentoblackmailenoughSenatorstopassthis"
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[] r_PolandBall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisiswhyIonlyvoteforcandidateswithmassivecocks.Theycan'tbeblackmailedwithdickpicsbecausetheyhave
nothingtohide.
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[] suicidepixie23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itmakessomesense...Butwhywouldtheywantoldpictures?
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Togetbetterfacialrecognitionandageapproximationalgorithms.
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[] TheBaussman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit.Howhaveinotheardofthisbefore
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[] imrealhungry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn.Notbad.
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[] Justanotherpen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisonecomesupeverytimethisthreaddoes
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[] Acquiescenttyler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thishasbeenpostedbeforeastheanswertothissamequestionmanytimes.Notbad,buthedidn'tmakeitup
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[] DogOneTwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That,andpublishedin50differentlanguagesin100+socialmediaforms.Hahaheyeverybodypostyouroldfamilyphotos.Lol
that'ssoretrosothat'syourunclehuh?
Onofthemisgoingtobeonthewantedlist.
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[] aaj213 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatgavemeaheartylaugh.Excellentwork.
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[] moet6000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nice.
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[] ninten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notbadforbeingstolenfromoneofthetopcommentsthelasttimethisthreadcamearound.
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[] leprecan61 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notsurewhytherearesomanyassholesonreddit.Itdidn'tsayinventaconspiracytheory...itsaidwhichonesareprobably
true.
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[] rollerboogie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellheneverclaimedtoinventthetheory...Youaregoingtoseesomeconspiracytheoriesonhereyou'veseenbefore.
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[] jrossetti undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sathrowbackanswer....
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[] temalyen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sigh
Wherearethepitchforks?Let'sgetthisoverwith,Iwanttogotobed.
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EHereyago!!Broughtextras,too!EE
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[] dacalpha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nobodyaskedfororiginaltheories,andnoteveryonewaspresentforthepreviousthread.
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[] Eddie07 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Captaino'captain,weneedadownboatattackonthatguy!
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[] achillesone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tobefair,thatthreadwasaboutfavoriteconspiracytheories.IcouldhearoneonthatthreadandthenpostthatIthinkit's
probablytrueonthisone
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[] xyroclast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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True.Ithinkitwasjustthe"Notbad."thatimpliedimrealhungrythoughtitwasFrederic_Bastiat'soriginalidea.That's
whynintensetitstraight.
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[] achillesone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodpoint
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[] COCK_MURDER undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hahamygodman,youshouldbeadefenseattorney.OnceknewaguynamedHongolianPumpkinmeredithwhocame
upwithinsaneloopholetheorieslikethisoneandhemanagedtorepresenttonsofcrazycelebs,likeKorkiBucek,the
ThreeFatWhores,andOranjeJuiceSimpsoninvariouscivilmatters
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[] onebraincell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hahayafatwhore!
youarethebest
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[] TenTonsOfAssAndBelly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Please,tellmemore,COCK_MURDER...
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[] CactusBathtub undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...what
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[] Darkm1tch69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiraciesarestronghere
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[] centersolace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismakeswaytoomuchsense.
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[] beaverteeth92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Putin'smenwerebehindtheMoscowapartmentbombings.
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[] Arousing_Wedgie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC333298ThisisthekindofjournalismIlike.
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thiswasallbutconfirmedwiththeFSBagentswhoplantedthat"practice"bombandthetypeofbombmaterialsused,right?
alsothestringofassassinationsthatwentalongwithit
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[] RudegarWithFunnyHat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OP'smumhadsexualrelations
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OPshowersnaked
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[] Escape_Artist_EUW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasdonebyUS.
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[] TheJetFuel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] FingerpistolPete undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SandyHookneverhappened,A1exampleofhowfuckedtheUSmediais.
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[] bensawn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
R+L=J
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[] B_More_Os undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SandyHook.
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[] rebelsniper2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theirisagroupofpeoplewhorunallgovernmentaroundtheworldandaretryingtocreatea"newworldorder"
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[] Truleighscrumptious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
marilynmonroewasprobkilledbyakennedyforcarryingakennedybaby.theymurderedhertocoveritallup.
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[] GoatTheArtist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inthe"BeforeWatchmen"prequelseries,JackieOhiredTheComediantokillMarilynbecauseofheraffairwithJack....
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JFKwaskilledasrevengeforMarilynMonroegettingwhackedforcarryinghisbaby.Hispeopledidherintocoveritup,then
HollywooddidJFKtoavengeher.
source:thevoicesinmyhead.
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idoubtit.hershrinkwasadiscipleofannafreudandthatladyhadsomeseriouslyweirdthoughtsaboutsex.heprobablydroveheroff
thedeepend.
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[] Fribbler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SaudiArabiafundsISISandotherterroristorganisationsandalsohasclosetiestomanywesternpowersbasedsolelyonoiland
money.
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[] naughtydismutase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotatheory.
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ItisrumouredthatIhaveasmallpeanis*Also,thatisnotthetrueone!
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[] salmon10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKwaswhackedbyTeamsterswhohadtiestoFrankSinatra
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Chapstickismicroracketeering.Itexacerbatestheproblemit'sostensiblydesignedtofixwhileadvertisingitselfasthesolution.
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Ithoughtitwasjustcommonknowledge?Don'talotofthemhavesmallamountsofachemicalthatisknowntodegradeskinover
time?Thatseemslikeitwouldcauseirritationandmakeyoufeelasthoughyouneedmoreofit.
PersonallyIcan'tstandthestuff.ItfeelslikeI'vegotoilonmyfaceandIjustwanttowipeitoff.
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Waitwhat?Chapstickmakestheproblemworse?
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[] tommyfever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Definitely,ItriedCarmexonceandknewimmediatelythatsomethingwaswrong."LipOil"isthewaytogo.
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[] Z_Designer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaysthoughtthistoo!!Thatswhyineverusechapstickanymore.Mylipsbarelyevergetchappedandonceortwicetheydidandi
usedchapstickinoticedthatwheniwouldstopusingit,mylipswouldseemevenmorechapped.Imconvincedthisistrueofasthma
inhalerstoo.Ihadbadasthmaasakid,alwayshadaninhaler,thenwheniwaslike16ijustdecidedtostopusingthem,suffered
throughanasthmaattackortwothenneverhadoneagain!
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JustgetalittletravelsizeofVaseline.It'slike$1.50andlastsaboutayearifyoudon'tuseittojerkoff.
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[] 90bronco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howlongifyoudouseittojerkoff?
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Justgetthebigjarforthat.Shouldlastyouatleast4days.
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Believeitornot,butI'maddictedtoChapStick.It'sabsolutelycrazy.Igothrough3sticksamonth.Youmightbeontosomething.
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[] MorbidlyMacabre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihave14tubesinmypurse,andjustorderedanother16online.I'mstockingup.
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[] thestarsaresuns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
samewithmosteyedropsthatpromisetoreduceredness.theyactuallycauserednessafterregularuse.
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[] toothinktoomuch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,someantiperspirants.AsIstartedtosweatmoreandmore,Ibecomemorereligiousaboutantiperspirantuse.Itgotsobad
thatIwasfrequentlysearchinghyperhydrosissolutions,tryingthestrangeprescriptionstrengthchoices,debatingbotoxinjections
undermyarms,etc.
FinallyIsawsomepeoplesayingthattheystoppedwearingantiperspirantanditallwentaway,andIfinallytriedit.Bam,Ibecame
virtuallysweatfree.
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[] BradyBunch12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theycauserednessafterdiscontinuedusenotduringactiveuse
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Switchto"artificialtears",there'llberednessforthefirsttensecondsandthenyou'regoodtogo.Ihaven'tusedVisinein10years,
it'sterrible.
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Canconfirm.Usedthemforyearsandyears.Eyesareconstantlyirritatedandmildlybloodshot.Peoplehavecometoassumeits
sleep/stressrelated.:(
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Yes,anythingwithmentholinitisgoingtodryyourlipsout.Chapstickisbadforyourlips.There'safewbrandsthatactuallyhelp,
Blistexisoneofthem./notacorporateshill
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[] Caringdouch3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TryRiteAidebrandchapstick.BestchapstickI'veeverused.
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[] andresq1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthatcarmextho...
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[] nosnivel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tlaughasIwasusingmyBlistexlessthananhouragoIwasthinking,"Man,decadeslater,anditisstillthebestandonly
thingwhichworks."
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JustgotreallystonedandthoughtabouthowfunnyitwouldbeifthesocialmedianamepickedforexposingBlistexasthe
onlylipblamthatworkswasomgfckbuttz
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[] nosnivel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ROFL!WeneedanupvoteBrigadetomakethishappen!
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[] Davidisontherun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsBurt'sBeesIlluminati?
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Whatisn't?
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[] ohreallyok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CanconfirmBlistexendorsement.Isgoodbalm.
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Totally.Lookattheingredients.Moisturizers.
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HerbalBlistexisoneofthebestestlipbalmsintheallofever!ToobadIcan'tfinditanymore...
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Thebrightestfiresburnquick.Everythinginturn...
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[] doktorknow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowaboutChapstickbuttheyhaveproventhisistrueforCarmex.
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Source?
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[] prefix_postfix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButCarmexmakesitshinyandmorenoticeable!
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[] Kickingandscreaming undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EZcreditfinancingtokeepthepeasantsfromrevolting.
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[] ScarFace88FG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OperationFastandFuriouswassetuptoinfluencepublicopinioninfavorofguncontrol.
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howdoesrestrictingweaponstoLEOspreventthemfromsellingthoseweaponstodrugdealers?
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andthenlosingtrackofthosegunsonlytofindthemmonthslaterinthehandsofterrorists
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[] h0l0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Richpeopleactivelyandconsciouslypreventthebootstrappingoflowerandmiddleclassindividualsthroughtheiremploymentand
businesspractices.
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WhilestillsupportingtheconceptofbootstrapstokeepRepublicansinoffice.Wantdecenthealthcare?Workharder!Wantmore
money?Paymoneytogotoschoolandthenworkharder!Wanttonotstarveinthefuckinstreet?Workharderyoulazypieceofshit!
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DidyourdegreeinjournalismandinfluencefromTumblrhelpyoudeterminethat?
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[] h0l0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasmydegreeinTumblr,actually.
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idon'tthinktoomanypeoplewouldarguecapitalismisn'treal
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[] luv_is_a_battlefield undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WestboroBaptistsareactuallyprogressiveliberalsworkingtodiscredittheevangelicalright.
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[] Firebolt1176 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] Sorry_no_change undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob.Ican'tbelievethishasn'tbeenpostedyet.Therearedozensifnothundredsofinconsistenciesintheofficial
storyfromthesuspectedsuicidehijackerscomingforwardafterthetragedy,totheunexplaineddeportationofOsamabinLaden's
familytoSaudiArabiawithinhoursoftwintowerscollapsing.Nottomentionthegovernmentisstillwithholdingalotoftheinformation
ontheeventsofthatday.
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Thebinladenswereshippedoutbecausetheyweren'tinvolvedbutwouldhavebeentheperfecttargetforamob.Seriouslyiftheyhad
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stayedwe(privatecitizens)wouldhavekilledthem.
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ThethingIneverunderstoodaboutthewhole"9/11hijackersareallaliveinfootageafter9/11"isthatnotasingleoneofthemwenton
theBBC,MSNBCortheNYTimes.
AnyoneofthosepublicationswouldhavebeenhappytoseeBushgodowninflames.Instead,it'salwaysarandomArabstationthat
youcan'tquitetellwhothey'reinterviewingorwhen.Orit'shisDad"swearing"thatMohammedAttacalledhimafter9/11(butno,of
coursehecan'tproduceAttaliveonlegitimatetv)
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[] OGEspy117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chemtrails
Lookatthebulletforspacereflectorsandcarbondioxideremoval
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TheJewsdidit,FlatEarth,BarakObamaisOsamaBinladen,PrincessDiannawaskilledbyroyaldecree,Manyleadingpoliticiansand
publicfiguresareinfactlizards,Ihaveasmallpeanis.
Oneoftheseistrue.
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Ifeelsorryforyourpartner...Ormorelikelyyourhand.
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Ifeelsorryforyourpartner...Ormorelikelyyourhand.
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lolbingo:)
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wait,wait,wait...IthoughtObamawastheAntiChrist?
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No,thatistheGayPope.ObamaistheSaudiRoyalwhohadashaveandbecamepresidentoftheUSA.
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ah,ok.Thanksforclarifying.
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davidicke?isthatu?
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Absolutely,yes.
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[] MakinBaconOnTheBeach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DeflategatewasastingjobbytheNFLandseveralowners
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[] ziggypalffy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pres?Isthatyou?!
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[] naus226 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sohowlonghaveyoubeenapatsfan?Since2000?
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[] Johnbrownspork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/newsiscensoredbythegovernment.
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whywouldtheyneedto?redditisdesigned(notnecissarilyonpurpose)insuchawaythatitwillinvariablydegradeintoanecho
chamber
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Gottamakesurethey'reechoingtherightnarrative.
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[] PapaCousCous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TomCruisedoesnotactuallybelieveinScientology,buttheChurchofScientologyisblackmailinghimbythreateningtorevealhis
secretthatheisgayifheeverleavesthechurch.
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Ithinkhe'sjustgettingpaidalargesumfromtheChurchofScientologyandthat'sthemotivation.
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I'mskeptical.
Hollywoodisaliberalplace.Itwon'tmatterifhe'sgay,he'llstillgetwork.
ThechurchofScientologyisn'tverypopular.Whywouldpeoplebelievewhatitsays?
Ifthechurchweretorevealsomeone'ssecretsitwouldalienateothermembersofthechurchandtheymightchoosetoflee.
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Icanbelievethat.
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[] Halfhand84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkallreasonablefolkcanagree,
Jewsdid9/11
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Ithinkallreasonablefolkcanagree,jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeamsand9/11isaninsidememe,
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[] shawmuttv2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegovernmentissiftingthroughallofouronlineshenanigans.
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[] munsking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/StallmanWasRight
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[] MetalHacker87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Racialissuesareginnedupsopoorpeoplefightoneanotherratherthanunitingagainsttheireliteoppressors
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Thiswouldn'tbetoofarfetched.IfyoulookatslaveryintheU.Syoufindthatwhenpoorwhitesbeganbefriendingtheirblack,slave
counterparts...therichplantationownersimmediatelysetthepoorwhitesto'oversee'theslavesinordertocreateanimositybetween
thetwogroupsaswellasabufferfortheslaveswhoseverelyoutnumberedthematonepoint.
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Divideandconquer.
Iwonderhowpoorwhitesinatrailerfeelaboutrichwhitestalkingabout"whiteprivilege"?Theymustthinkit'sajoke.
RFKtravelledAppalachiatoreachouttopoorpeople.Poorwhitepeople.Wewereontheprecipiceofeconomicreformbecauseof
hisabilitytounitepoorpeopleregardlessofrace.
AndhegotkilledbySirhanSirhan,someonemanybelievewasaManchurianCandidateandwhohasdeniedanyrecollectionofthe
murderforover40years.
Idon'tknowwhethertheRFKmurderwasaconspiracybutcertainlybelieveitwasfortuitousforthepowereliteintheUS.
Goingbacktotheelitekeepingpoorblacksandwhitesatloggerheads,evenupnorththeydiditby"busting"neighborhoodsand
usingblacksasscabs.
Iftheblacksandwhitesfightoneanothertheycan'tfighttherealenemyourcorporateoverlords.
Lookatitnow.Whitesareincreasinglysuspiciousofblacksandviceversa.RacerelationshaveneverbeensobadaslongasI've
beensentient.
NowlookattheDow.Lookatcorpprofits.Andthenlookatrealwages.Livingstandards.Wefightoneanothersomuchwedon't
noticewe'rebeingrobbedbythesepeople.
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Verytrue.ThesamegoesforHispanicimmigrantswhoarepaintedasthievesofamericanjobs(acommontrendintheU.S
goingbacktoEuropeanimmigrantsaswell)...therealthiefofamericanjobsiscorporateavariceandafederalgov'tdeeplyin
theirpockets...
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Oddlyenough,immigrants,particularlylowskilledillegalimmigrants,areusedtodepresswagesforourunskilled
workers.
Igetwhatyou'resaying.Therealityisthewealthyuseillegalimmigrantstogetaroundlegalpay,legalworkstandards
withrespecttosafety,andliabilityifaworkeriskilledonthejob.
Adeadillegalimmigrantonaconstructionsite,ascynicalasthissounds,isn'tasexpensiveasalegalonedueto
liabilitycapsforillegalworkers.
Thinkoflaborassupplyanddemand.Asthesupplyincreases,thepricedecreases.Wagesdecline.
Thisiswhythechamberofcommercelikesillegalimmigration.Itdrivesdownwagesandothercosts.
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thereisaninterestingvideoaboutthisonyoutube,withhurricanekatrinaandtheneworleansareaasanexample
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Don'tforgetdivisivegenderissues.
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[] alwaysDL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BombsintheWTCBuildingsandnoplaneeverhotthePentagon.
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BUSHDID911
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fuckyou
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Thestatelotteriesareouttheretogivepoorpeoplehopewhenthereisnone.
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[] dusmeyedin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThegunlobbyhasthoroughlyastroturfedReddit.Wheneveragunownershipquestioncomesupandgetsadegreeofexposureon
Reddit,suddenlytheliberalleftleaningSanderslovinguserbasegoesall"Don'ttouchmyguns"and"Frommycolddeadhands"
CharltonHestondownvotehappy.
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daepeoplewhodisagreewithmearerobots?
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No,thosearerealpeopleandnotbots.They'rerealpeoplewhopassionatelybelieveingunrightsandwhovoicetheiropinionina
disproportionatemajoritybecausethey'vebeenputtherebyalargecorporate/lobbyinginteresttoskewthepublicdialogue.
Visitanygivenhighprofilethreadthattouchesongunrightsandyou'llseewhatImean.It'snotjustdownvotesandupvotes,butan
intricatevocalargumentbackandforth.Andit'saweirdweirddeviationfromReddit'susualsocialistliberalleanings.
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it'saverydipshitformofliberalismthatespousesdisarmingcitizenrywhilemaintainingastandingarmyandanarmedpolice
force,soitdoesn'treallysurpriseme.
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Therewego.Rightoncue.
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yeahimsureasthepolicemurderablackmanevery12hourstheonlypeoplewhohaveaproblemwiththisidea
arepaidshillsthenraemploys
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Yeah,soundslikeaprettybadsituation.Youhavemysympathies.
Wedon'thavethisprobleminChina.
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[] johnklos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSgovernmentissecretlymonitoringallofourcommunications.Oh,waitthat'sbeenproventobetrue.
Mypredictionisthattherearepowerfultoolsandcompromisesforvariousx86hypervisorswhichallowunfetteredaccesstoVMs
runningin"clouds"suchasMicrosoftAzureandAmazonAWS,andthattheNSAisalreadyusingthem.
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[] Roontrodan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lizzardpeople.c'monlizzardfoodple
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[] GroundhogNight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatArcherhasAspergers.
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IreallywanttodiscreditthistheorybutIjustcan't.NowI'mhopingthosepeoplethattoldmeIsoundlikeArcherjustmeantIsoundlike
hisvoiceactorJonBenjamin.
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[] Juls317 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwouldmakesense...
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Governmentcheese.Thegovernmentisputtingtrackersinthecheesetoseewhatethnicities,politicalparties,etceatwhatkindsof
cheesethemost.It'stheman,man.
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[] GageC132 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheyNEVERcaughttheguyshotactuallyshotJFK
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[] ryouchanx4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkPinochetkilledSalvadorAllende.Idon'tthinkhereallykilledhimself.
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[] FullStackEngineer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theoriesabout9/11beinganinsidejob,arefosteredbytheUSgovernment,tocurbtheperceptionthatourLEandintelligence
servicesareincapableofprotectingusfromfutureattacks.
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[] RangersCrusader undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinksouthparkdidanepisodewiththisasthepremise
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[] stevenashattack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OJSimpson'ssonJustincommittedthemurders.""http://www.businessinsider.com/ojsimpsonmurdersandjasonsimpson20146
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[] Bobcat698 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OrJasonmaybe
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[] nice_halibut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ReadWilliamDear'sbook.Wow.Definitelyreaditbeforeyoumakeupyourmind.
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[] SmashedBrotato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mymom'sbeensayingthisforyear.
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Dang.WherehaveIbeen?Neverheardthisone
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It'saprettypopularoneandactuallykindaholdsweightifyoureadintoit.
Thingisojisclearlyascumbag.Imeanhe'slockedupforarmedrobberyandkidnappingiirc,sothere'snotellinghowfarhecould
go.
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Youknow,nowthatIthinkofit,Idon'trememberhearinganythingatallabouthisson,ever.Iwatchedthewholething,too,
weweregluedtotheTV.
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Itwasn'tathingduringthetrial.Itcameoutyearslater.Maybeevenadecade.
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Thatexplainsit.Sheesh.EverythingI'veeverbeentoldisalie.
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Right?Butitreallyputsanewspinoneverything.Hissonsoundsterrifying,too.
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[] haberstachery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WonderwhytheycouldnotreopenthecasebymatchingJason'sDNA?
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[] foobarsky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AccordingtoEldridgeCleaver,OJ'splacewasastashhousefor"TheSyndicate",agroupthatnegotiatedhugeathletesalariesin
returnforthoseathletesfinancingdrugshipmentstotheUS.Nicoleknewaboutitandthreatenedtosnitch,whichgotherkilledina
professionalhit(nearlybotchedwhenRonGoldmanaccidentallygotintheway).RobertKardashian(yeah,thatfamily)leftthehouse
withasuitcase,purportedlyfullofdrugs,thedayafterthemurders.
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[] glimblade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisagoodone.Ibuyit.
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YeahthatshitaboutdefensivewoundsonGoldman'shands,andnothingonOJtoshowhewasbruised..well..
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[] FaroutIGE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Restaurantownersaddedicemachinestosodatowers(despitethesodaalreadybeingcold)totakeupextraspaceinthecupand
ultimatelysavemoneyonsyrup.
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[] Hylomorphic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,Idon'tthinkso.Theiceisalsoexpensive.Ittakesalotofelectricitytofreezethatmuchice.Therestaurantswouldprobablysave
moneyifpeoplestoppeddemandingice.
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[] mrizzerdly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheJFKtheoryaslaidoutinthedocumentaryfilmJFKseemsincrediblyplausibletome.
Somebigbusinessmen/generals/CIAGmanwithinthemilitaryindustrialcomplexprobablysaid"Iwishhewasdead"toaminionwho
madeithappen.
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[] flyinglifeaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thataliens/ghostsexist.Whilemanypeopledobelievethisalready,theiraremanywhodon't.Butfromwhati'veheard,theirare
governmentfilesthathavereportedsuchthings,buttheykeepithiddenfromthepublic,alongwithalotofotherscaryinformation.
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[] deadboyslikeme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sactuallythisgreatdocumentaryaboutthat!It'sprettydamnconvincing,Ithinkit'scalledTheXFiles.
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[] hurtcobaine1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahofcoursealiensarerealthough.Youheardofthewowsignal?Defoneofthethingsthatsolidifiesit
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[] CptLoken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoonlandingwasfaked,alongwiththerestoftheApolloprogram,tobankrupttheSovietUnioninadesperatespaceracewithno
realopposition.
WhenIheardthetheoryinInterstellarIimmediatelythought,"Huh,that'snothalfbad."
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[] usernumber36 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
worldleaderslineupallofthepotentialdecisionstheycouldmakeatthestartoftheirterm,andassesspreciselyhowitwouldinfluence
publicopinion.
Theythenrolloutthesedecisionsnotwhenit'sthebestdecisiontomake,butwhentheyrequirepublicopiniontoshiftaparticularway,
egtokeepthempopular.
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forexamplegaymarriageisveryeasilyspottedassomethingthatwouldcurryaLOToffavourwithalargeportionofthepublic,and
couldliterallybesignedoffonatwhatevermoment.Butyoudon'tdoitthesecondyouenterofficeohno.Youdoitwhenyouneeda
boostinpositiveperception.Soyousaveituntilthat'sneeded.Say,rightafteryoufasttracktheTPP.
I'mconvincedthisishowpoliticsoperates.
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Iusedtoworkatacallcentercontractedbyvariouspoliticianstoprobethepublicforexactlythistypeofinformation,soyes,youwould
becorrect.
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[] Slapo2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifuckedmydad
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[] immortalreploid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ihavethepics
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[] ZioFascist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11&IsraeliMossadconnection
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[] RiverGambler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheVietnamwarwasacoveruptocontrolthepopulation.Thereweretoomanybabyboomers.Justthinkabouthowmanypoor
peopleandminoritieswerelostduringVietnam.Now,whatdemographicshavethemostchildren???
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Buttherearestillashittonofbabyboomers......
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Yesbutnotasmanyastherewouldhavebeen.
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[] big_D_swanging undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sactuallyretarded
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Justthinkaboutit.
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[] queenhippolytas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kennedymeantwaytoomuchdeadtotoomanypeopleforhisassassinationtobedonebyonepersonwhowasn'tworkingfor
someone.
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checkoutavideoofaguylastnamecopper,thedrivermakesthefinal(notonly)shootonJFKitsinYT
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[] chironomidae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/actualconspiraciesisagoodsubforthiskindastuff.It'salittledead,butreadingthetoppostsisinteresting.
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[] SixArmedAsuras undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThehugeloveforZombiemediaexplodedleadingintothe2000'sasasafewaytocreateexcessivelyviolentworksofartthatwould
notoffendanyone.Especiallyviolentworkswithexcessivegore.
You'rejustnotallowedtodothattohumansoranimalsanymore.
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[] Tongan_Ninja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Backin1997,theviolentvideogameCarmageddonchangeditspedestriansfrompeopletozombiesfortheGermanrelease,toavoid
beingcensored.
Soit'snotreallya"ConspiracyTheory"it'sjustafact.
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[] Camtron888 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysuretherearestillatonofviolentandgorytelevisionshowsandmovieswherehumansgetkilledinexcessiveways.
Imean,Igetthatit'seasierwhenthe"badguys"arezombies,monstersoraliens,butIdon'tthinkit'sstoppedusfrommakingshows
wherepeoplebutchereachother(eg.GameofThrones,Vikings,Spartacus,etc).
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Ialwaysthoughtitwasjustawaytogetustofearandmistrusteachother.
I'mtotallyoffendedbyzombies,bytheway.
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[] TheZombieFromWork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,then!
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[] onebraincell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeelu
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OK,notoffended..scared.
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[] _ampere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatifitwasjustacoverupbecausethegovernmentwasworkingonazombietoxinandtheywantedthecitizenstokilloffpeopleit
infected,sincetheywerepreparedafterseeingzombiemovies?TheygotHollywoodtoproducethemoviesasabackupplan,sinceno
oneinanyzombiefilmhaseverseenazombiemovie?/s
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[] dbelow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireadsomewherethatitexplodedbecausethemilitaryorsomeotherorganizationwantedtodesensitizepeopletoseeingmassesof
humanskilled.Idon'tnecessarilybelievethat,butitisinterestingtothinkabout.
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It'sjustbusinessimo.Hollywoodcashinginonafad,sameastheyarenowwithyoungadultfilms.
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that'swhattheywantyoutothink
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[] Ithia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
The"Echelon"hasprovedtobetrue.(NSA)
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[] looklistencreate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SugeKnightputoutahitonBiggie.
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SueKnight(Suge'smom)hitonBiggie
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Newdocumentary,backedbyactualevidenceandwitnessesshowthiswasexactlythecase.Puffyputahitouton2PacandSugeout
offearofretaliationforoneofSuge'sbodyguardsgettingkilled.Sugeretaliated(backedbytheconfessionofthekillerandSuge's
girlfriend)bykillingBiggie.
http://uproxx.com/smokingsection/2015/11/pdiddytupacmurderrapdocumentary/2/
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thatdociscrap
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[] AlphakirA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WUT
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[] chrisac12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HekilledEazyE
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HealsohungVanillaIceoffofabalconybyhisfeet.
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[] Rami95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyoneonredditisrasistandwerejustwaitingforthekidwhogotarrestedfortheclocktoscrewupsotheycouldspewtheirhate.
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Racist,right,obviousbullshitisobvious.
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[] befron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyoneonredditisracist
Youcouldhavejuststoppedthereandbeenright.
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[] Bhiim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
The2008criseswasmanufacturedtomakelotsofprofit.
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Youmeanthegovernmentallowedpeopletogetmortgagestheycouldn'tafford?Thesamethingtheyaredoingwithstudentloans
now?
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[] Krazydood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] Bo_jackhorseman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovewasbehindthemurderofKurtCobain.Watch"SoakedinBleach"it'sonNetflix.
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TherearevariousversionsofconspiraciesthatTheChappaquiddickIncidentwasasetuptodiscreditTeddyKennedy.
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ThatBobSagetrapedandkilledagirlin1990
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Thathumansarenotthecauseofclimatechange.
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[] Dulonic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatberniesandersisjohncenainthefuture
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[] Boatgunner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButBernieSanderswasinthepast.HesupportedtheCivilRightsMovement.Obviously,he'sMartinLutherKing.
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[] sunshinenroses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] LovinTheMcLovin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What.
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[] Nichijo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Masswaterfluoridationisaproductoflobbyingbytheindustriesthatproducesodiumfluorideasabyproduct,andneedawayto
disposeofahazardouswasteandmakeaprofit.
Todefusethistheory,theyintroducethetinfoilhatconspiracytheoriesthatit'sacommunistplotandallthat,tomakeanyskeptical
inquiriesregardingthesubjectas"justconspiracytheorynonsense".
Whichisagoodwaytodefuseanyhankypanky...Taketheobjections,andembellishthemtothepointofabsurdity,andthenusethe
absurdargumentstodrownoutthereasonablequestions.
Mostwaterconsumeddirectlyisprobablybottledwaterwithoutfluoride,anyway.Meanwhile,ourtapwaterisprotectingtheteethofour
toiletsandwashingmachines.Anddoingadarngoodjobofit,too.Whenwasthelasttimeanybodysawatoiletwithtoothdecay?
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[] RogueWriter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheTitanicConspiracyisreallyintriguing.Itbasicallyisthisinanutshell.TheOlympic(Titanic'soldersistership)wasdamagedintwo
collisions.Oneofthosecollisionsdamagedherkeel.So,whileOlympicwasinBelfastforrepairs,andTitanicwasbeingfinished,they
swappedthenamesonthetwoships.Thentheyplannedonsinkingtheshipfortheinsurance.Olympic'sdamagewasgoingtobevery
costlytorepaircorrectly.TheCalifornian,whichwastheshipnearesttoTitanicwhenshewentdownwasownedbythesameparent
companythatownedtheWhiteStarLine,andshewasemptyofcargoexceptforacoupleofthousandwoolsweatersorsomethinglike
that.
Idon'tknowifit'strueornot,butitwouldn'tsurprisemeatallifitwas.
IfyousearchforTitanicConspiracyonYouTubeyou'llfindseveralvideosaboutthis.
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Also,lookintosomeoftheveryrichandconnectedpeoplethatdiedontheTitanic.Allowedforamajorshiftinpoliticalpolicy.
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[] PainInTheAssInternet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohboy.IknewitwouldcomeupwhenIsawthetitle.It'sbogus.
http://www.williammurdoch.net/articles_34_Titanic_switch_theory_01.html
TLDR
1)dramaticallyunderinsured2)manydifferencesbetweenthetwoships3)abrokenkeelisn'tirreparable4)keelwasn'tdamaged
anyways5)TheCalifornian'scargomanifestnolongerexists.Theclaimthatshewascarryingrescuegearismadefromthinair.
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IwashappierwhenpeoplethoughtitsankduetocursedEgyptianartifactsonboard.
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[] FlamingTaco7101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisthemostcompellingimagetome.
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[] ranchdepressing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswouldbealotmoreconvincingiftheywereatsimilarangles.Perspectivecreatesalotofillusions.
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[] PainInTheAssInternet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BothimagesareofTitanic,buttaken10monthsapart.Inthose10months,manychangesweremadetoTitanictoimproveherover
hersister.ThisincludedtheenclosingoftheADeckpromenadeandaddingstateroomstoBDeck,causingthewindowstobecome
irregular.
BothOlympicandTitanicwerelaunchedwith14portholesandlatermodifiedtohave16.
TheimageontherighthasTITANICwrittenoverthenegative,whichiswhyitappearsinadifferentlocation.I'veseenabetter
qualityimageofitandyoucanevenseetheactualname.
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[] FlamingTaco7101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neato!
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[] RiskyBrothers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotsosureaboutthat,there'sacrane/scaffoldinginthewayofseeingalltheportholes,andthewindowsjustlooklikeonedeck
isobscuredbytheanglethefromwhichpicturewastaken.Thenameisconfusing,andcouldn'tbecausedbythecameraangle
fromwhatIcantell,butrepaintingthenamewouldn'thavetakenalotofeffort.
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[] heisgone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheWhiteStarLinechairmantooksomeseriousriskbybeingontheboatthen...
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[] fraser2142 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThesadthingabouttheTitanicisifthecaptianhaddonenothingtheshipwouldnothavesunk,
Ifhehadhittheicebergheadonthefrontcompartmentscouldhavebeensealed.ifIremembercorrectlythetitancarriedsofewlife
boatsbecauseitwasencouragedto.Intheorytheshipcouldhavebeensplitinto4sectionsandstayedafloat.Theaccidentthatsunk
herwastheworstpossibleincidentthatcouldhappen.breachingsomanycompartments.
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Nottrue
TLDR:Theimpactwould'vecausedshipwidedamage,andwould'veinjuredmanypeopleonboard.Basically,whentheshiphit
withaglancingblowitkeptonmovingandacomparativelysmallamountofenergywastransferredduringthecollision.But45,000
tonsofshipstoppingallatoncewould'vecausedhullbreachesalongtheentireship,causingittosinkinminutesratherthanhours.
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Idonotthinkyoucantakethatasgospel,hespeculatesafairfewthingsinthatpiece.
Iamjustrepeatingsomethingihaveheardbutintheorysomeonecouldmodelthisnowwhichiwouldlovetosee.
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[] Bobcat698 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CorrectmeifI'mwrongbutwouldn'tafloatingiceberggivesomewhat?Isurewouldn'tthinkit'dstoptheshipinits"tracks".
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ItoutweighstheTitanicbyafewordersofmagnitude,sureitwouldmoveabit,butiftheTitanichittheicebergat20
knotstheymightkeepmovingat1/2aknot.Imaginesomeoneonrollerskatesplowingintoatruckinneutralthey're
bothgoingtomove,buttheskater'sgoingtobreaktheirface.
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Dependsonafewthings,suchasthedensityofthewholeiceberg,iftherewasaniceshelforpartialiceshelf,the
speedoftheship,etc.
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[] account1357924 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydolooksosimilar,onGoogleimagesatleast
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TheOlympicTheTitanic
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Theyweresisterships,sobasicallythesamemodel.
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Ohh,sorryIdidn'trealizetheywould'vebeen(butinhindsight,yeahIprobablyshould'vehaha)
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Theyhadathirdsisteraswell,theBritannic,whichwasusedasanavalhospitalshipandsankinsuspicious
circumstances.
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Whoa,thanksforthelink!Ihadnoidea,butitwasagoodhistorylessontoreadabout.Also,TILthattheterm
"poopdeck"isactuallyarealthinghaha:)
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Itwasntuntiltheshipwasfoundinthe70's(or80's?)thatitwasconfirmedtheshipsplitinhalf.Afewsurvivorsclaimedtosee
explosionsandtheshipripapart,butitjustisn'tpossibleforanicebergtobisectanentireship.Someoneneedstomakeadankmeme
aboutthis.
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Ibelievetheicebergjustputaholeinthehull(andthosesectionedoffpieces,forgetwhatthey'recalled)andtheshipsplitinhalf
duetotheweight.It'sbeenawhilesinceI'vereadabouttheTitanicsoIcouldbeoff.
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[] thephotoman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nope,that'sit.AstheTitanicsank,itssternsectiontoreoffthebow,bisectingtheship.Theship'shulldidnothavethetensile
strengthtoliftthekeeloutofthewater.
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That'sareasonabletheory,howeverIfinditfarmorelikelythatifthiswerethecasetheshipwouldhavesankwhole,
albeitslower,thantheweightofthehullpullingthesteelapart.Youneedanopposingforce(Iassumeyoumeanthe
weightofthewaterinthekeel),andtheanglesdon'tmakesense.Butit'snotlikeavideoexists,soIconcedeyoumay
becorrect.
Sidenoteforthoseinterested:thetitanicscrewwasdetainedintheUnitedStatesimmediatelyafterbycongress.An
oddoccurence,worthlookinguponWikipedia.
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[] Midnight_Flowers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butit'snotlikeavideoexists
Actuallythisfootagewasfoundandreleasedtothepublicin1997.
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[] openTarget undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KingGeorgeVdidTitanic
Icebergscan'tmeltthroughsteelhulls
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[] Jokesonyounow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11,AlQaeda,ISIS,BokoHaram.AllUSinventions.
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Forwhatpurpose?I'mspecificallyinterestedinyouropinionsonBokoHaram,sincethatparticularconspiracytheoryislesscommon.
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[] benediction333 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youshouldputaserioustagaswellasanosportsrelatedtheoriesrule.
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Seriously,whogivesashitaboutdeflatingfootballs?
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[] benediction333 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hahahahaexactly.Iclickedonthethreadthinkingitwouldbefuntoreadaboutsomecrazyconspiracytheoriesandtheirevidence
andthetopfuckingcommentisaboutMichaeljordan.Thatdoesn'tevencountasaconspiracytheory...itsmorelikeaninvasionof
privacyhaha
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[] TheTallestOfTopHats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Watergate
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[] gocgo1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoonischeese.
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[] lovesickremix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiracytheorydistoreplacefeltwinterslie.
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[] erik542 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CIAkilledKennedy.
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[] rhyynno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
USAcreatedISISandtreatsthemasastrategicasset.
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[] PeenTang undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SandyHookandagoodpercentageoftherecentshootingshavebeenhoaxesinordertopushguncontrol.
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[] Rockdrigo221 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
muhguns.
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Haveyoulookedattheevidence?
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[] KJC10006 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tquantifyhowdumbyouareifyoubelievethis.
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[] chuciboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisessentiallythedefaultresponsetoeverycommentthatisn'tajokeaboutsteelmemesoraboutcelebrities...
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Withourknowledgeaboutredditbeingcorruptedbyastroturfers,paidcommenters,andviralmarketers,youcanbe
guaranteedthattherearepeopleworkingforthegovernment,paidtocommentonthreadslikethese.Generally,themost
downvoted/ridiculedcommentsaremostlikelytobelegitconspiracies,whilstthosethatareupvotedwillbememes,jokes,
andirrelevantnonsensicalconspiracies.
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Justhavealookatthemostupvotedcomments..sports,celebrities.
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[] daneoid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tquantifyhowdumbyouareifyoubelievethis.
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[] pastense undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PuffDaddyhadTupackilledbecausehewasscaredforhisandhismother'slife.
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[] IamScuzzlebut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatEurope'selitebusinessandpoliticalpeopleabusechildrenatsexparties.
http://www.whale.to/c/reality6.html
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[] almightypanda undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeelsickjustreadingthat.Whatkindofsickfucksdoesthistopeople?
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[] CowboyFlipflop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whale.to
VACCINATIONISCHILDABUSEHELLISEMPTYVaxdeathsVaccinediseaseGaschambersTheDiseasesSmallpoxHadwen
PolioGenocideviaOPVJimWestCotdeathMeaslesAIDSHIVracketAZTAlzheimersRacketChelationCancerRacketCancer
GenocideAlternativeMedicineZapperOxygenTherapy
Whyareyougettingupvoted?Thisisallshit.
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[] Lasagnahead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohfuck
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[] lelidom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HautDeLeGarenneblewthelidofwhatshouldhavebeenthebiggestexposebutdidit?DidtheWestfundingtheNationalSocialist
partychangeanything?DidtheWestarmingtheTalibanchangeanything?Basically,thoseinpowerandpartofthe"GreatWestern
Empire"areimmunetheonlyonesthateverwillbeliabletoanyconvictioniswhistleblowersand"traitors"theGreatEmpirewill
continuetogrow,thosewithinhershallforeverbeprotectedandwethepublic,willalwaysbepayingforitinonewayoranother
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[] Dreamcaster1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LiveintheUK,definitelynotaconspiracytheorybutratherfactatthispoint.
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[] IrishLaaaaaaaaad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyWOTflagsthissitashavingmisleadingclaimsandgivesitanamberratingsoidkifeveryonetherecanbebeliebved
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[] EveryoneIsGod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ionlyreadlikehalfofthearticle...thisisbeyonddisgusting!andthesedementedfuckscangetawaywiththisshit?thehumanraceis
theonlyonetodoevilthingslikethis
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[] Gonko1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuck.Iactuallyreadthatthingandnowamfuckingsicktomystomach.Ijusthopelargepartsofthesearen'ttrue.
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[] Ap0R1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustEuropes?It'saglobalthing.
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[] DerNeander undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthereallyaconspiracytheorythrough?Afaikithasbeenproveninsomecases.
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[] whateverisfree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soprettystandardfreemasonry?Icanbuyit.
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[] MEAT_FIST undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnypossibilityofaTLDR
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[] SeedGodDammit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeenreadingallnight.Thisissointenselysick.Whatthehelliswrongwithpeople?
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[] Aqquila89 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whale.to?Really?That'swhatyou'reciting?Justlookatthefrontpage.It'schieflyantivaccination,butit'sadumpinggroundforevery
crazyconspiracytheory.There'sHolocaustdenial,thefulltextoftheProtocolsoftheEldersofZion,9/11conspiracytheories,
chemtrails,SandyHook,whytheEarthisflat...
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[] Eufonie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Interestingtopointout,theDutchPacifistSocialistParty(19571991)actuallywantedtodecriminalizepedophiliaandlegalisechild
pornography.Itactuallyhadtiesandvariousamountofsupportfromseveralinternational(leftist)organisations.
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[] NorthBlizzard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotjustEurope.There'sareasontheelitearecalledSatanic.
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[] 86753OhNein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmayfindthisaninterestingread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/
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[] TheIronMoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsnotjusttheeliteofeurope,itstheeliteeverywhere.
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[] Ravingsmads undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RemindMe!1day"readifyouhavetime."
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[] gotenks1114 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismakesmereallysadasapedophile,becauseithurtsthepeopleIlove,whilealsomakingmelookbadbyassociation.
Also,doesanyoneelserememberlike,10or15yearsago,astorystartedexplodingaboutcongressbeinginvolvedwithachild
prostitutionring,andthenonedayitjustdisappearedfromthenewsandnobodyevertalkedaboutitagain.Thatalwayskindofweirded
meout.
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wat
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[] mythozoologist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatsectiononLuciferianism......jesus.
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[] PM_PICS_OF_WEASELS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyfuck.Thatishorrifying.
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[] ReasonablyBadass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatEurope'severycountry'selitebusinessandpoliticalpeopleabusechildrenatsexparties.
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[] satsumaa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatonesnotaconspiracydude.
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[] postslongcomments undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthere'sanotherpieceofthistoo.Ithappensforthoseincontrolofthemtohaveblackmail.IthinkHollywoodandtheNYeliteis
oneoftheworstoffenders.
Imean,itprobablystartsasasmallthingthatisusedtocontrolsomeoneinmiddlemanagement.Firsttheyfindsomedamagingfact
aboutsomeone(Ihavenoproblemwithsomeofthefollowing).Drugaddiction,homosexual,taxevasion,prostitution,etc.,Theymay
evensetupanidealpersonwhocravesmaterialwealth/makespoordecisions.Thentheypaythemhandsomelytogivethema"good
life."Maybeseeinghowwillinglytheyaretobendtherules.Thentheygetinvitedtoaboss'withclosefriends.Throwinsomemoney,
subtlefinancialcrimes,etc.,
Eventuallythatturnsintoabiggerproposition.Invitedtoanoverseasbusinessmeeting.Overthere,thecontrollerhasmuchmore
leeway,accesstodrugs,children,prostitutes,etc.,Doalineortwoofcokeontheyachtknowingofapreviousaddictionandpressure
themintoit.Atthispoint,thecontrolledisreliantontheirpayandprettymuchhasgottenaheadbecauseofthatconnection.
Drugthemmore.Mixinkidswhilethey'realmostoutofit.Boom,youhaveyourleverage.Keeppromotingthatindividualhigherand
higherandprotectthem.Atthatpoint,thecontrolledismorecomfortablewiththeparties.MixinBDSMwithaprostitutetheboss
bought.Boom,leverageonmarriage.
Butforthehighestlevelofthegameyouneedsomethingtrulydamning.Atthatpoint,youknowthecontrollerhasinfiniteleverage.
Theycoulddestroyyourcareerwiththefinancialcrimesyoucommitted,leaksomepictures,destroyyourmarriageetc.,Butthat'snot
somethingthatwillputyouawayfor2030years.Incomesthechildsexring.Notonlydidtheyslowlybuildthatleverage,butyou
committedtheirfinancialcrimesanddidtheirdirtyworkallofthoseyears.
SameworksinHollywoodwithchildactors.Eitheryouhavesexwithpervertsoryoufadeintoobscurityastheoncefamousactor.
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[] MrCatEater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthereanytheorytowhytheeliteallsharethiscommonanduncommon(Oddhowthosetakedifferentmeaningsinthiscontext)
fetish?BecauseIknowit'snotexactlyacommonthingamongmostpeople,ormaybenotcommonforthenonelitestohaveanoutlet.
Isitsayingthatpedophilesrisetothetop,orthatit'sahumanaspectthatjustgetshighlightedamongtheelite.
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Therearelotsofcrimesyoucan'tgetawaywithatthebottomofsociety,thatyoucangetawaywithatthetop.
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Iknowthat,Iwasaskingwhythisspecificallyissuchapopularthingamongtheelites.
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[] NrthnMonkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheveryverydetailedlinkpostedbyOP,concludesthekeyreasonsaretouseperversiontotrapandbribeofficials,tocontinue
practicesinmindcontrol,andalsoinsomecasessatanicritual.
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Powercorrupts.
Itisthatsimple.Youcangetanythingthatislegal,sothatisnofunanymore.Thatiswheredrugsandthingslikethiscomeintothe
picture.
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Itdependsonwhetheryoumeanprepubertyorpostpubertyforpostpubertyit'swelldocumentedthatmenandwomenofall
agesarestillattractedtoteenagers.Forprepuberty,whoknows?Taboo,illness,possiblythepowerplayaspectmentionedby
/u/arostganomo...
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Imeantprepubertybecausethat'swhatIimaginedwhenIthoughtofchildsexslavestobehonest.Howeverpostisdefinitely
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stillpossible,goodpoint.
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[] arostganomo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisjustmytheory,butIthinkit'sthepowerdynamic.It'sabitofachickenoreggthing,butsomeofthesuperrichfetishize
havingpoweroverpeople.Abusingachildisobviouslyexploitingtheirpower,andthefactthatthey'rerarelypunishedforitmeans
theycanalsoexhibittheirpoweroverlawenforcement.
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[] The_Burg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sothey'vefinallyachievedaThirdRome?
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[] LSDeep undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'tevenaconspiracy.Thiskindofthinghasbeengoingonwellover20years,butwearetalkingabouttheelitethatrulefrom
behindacurtain.Thereisnoindictingpeoplelikethat.Evenwhentheyhavebeencaughtandaccusedbyvictimsrepeatedly.
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[] timpi3000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthenumber1witnesswasamentallyunstablewomanthatcouldnotproduceoneounceofevidenceorevenacrediblestory.
Therecertainlyischildabuseatthehigherlevelsofsociety,butthesamegoesforanylevelofsociety.Peoplethinkit'salotworse
thanitis.
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[] crunkisifoshizi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisonlyaslightdifference,lawsarenotmadeforrichpeople.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delawaredupontrapecase/
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Readthewelldocumentedlink,andthebookXdossiers(Dutch).WikileaksleakedalotofFrenchreportsonthematteras
well.
Theabuseishorrific,andthewayit'sbeingcoveredevenso.
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[] timpi3000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vereadtheXdossiersandwasn'timpressed.Doyouhavealinkonthewikileaksarticles?
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Inaddition,IassumeyourDutch,youcanwatchZembla'stakeontheXdossiers,it'sonYouTube.
LinktoWikileaks,Dutrouxfile:https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Belgium:_Dutroux_dossier_summary,_1235_pages,_2005
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Haha20years.Thatscute.
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[] LSDeep undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isaidwellover?Andbesides,I'mreferringtooneveryconnectedcircle.Obviouslyothergroupshavecomeandgone,and
willcontinuetodoso.
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[] EagleVega undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"wellovermillenia"FTFY
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Prettysureit'soutintheopeninBritainnow...EveninAussomeoldprimeministersgotfingered(nopunintended).Butnoonewants
tobelieveit..
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[] Mi5terQ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatlinkdoesn'tleadanywhereforme.
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[] ShitfacePhil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SHUTITDOWN
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[] scoobysnaxxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
idkwhythisdoesn'thavemorevotes.isn'tthisalreadyprovenasfact?but,youknow,withoutpunishmentforthepartiesinvolved.
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didn'titcomeoutafewyearsagothatthetoriesweredoingthisduringthethatcheryears?i'msurethiskindofshitisprettywidespread
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[] GoldenHairedGod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imeanyoucan'tlookatThatchersfaceandthinkthatthat'snotawomanwhoenjoysthehelloutofabusingchildren.
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[] theinspectorst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No.Intermsofthe'halftheTorieswereatit'conspiracy,whatseemstohavehappenedisthatabunchofLabourpoliticians(e.g.
TomWatson,SallyBercow,SimonDanczuk)usedtheaftermathoftheYewtreeinvestigation(intopaedophilesintheentertainment
industryinthe1970sand80sJimmySaville,RolfHarris,etal)totrytopromotesmearsagainstsomedieingordeadToryex
politiciansfromthatera(e.g.LeonBrittan,LordMcAlpine,TedHeath).
Noevidencewaseverproduced.ThekeysocalledwitnessintheBrittanallegationsturnedouttobeavulnerablemanwholater
saidhehadbeen'encouraged'bycampaignerstofalselynameBrittan.SallyBercowlostalibelcaseagainstMcAlpineandwas
forcedtopayhimdamages(whichhegavetoChildreninNeed).TheHeathallegationswentnowhereandlargelyseemedto
involve(Iforgettheexactsteps)anexpoliceofficerclaimingthataknowncriminalhadonceclaimedthatsomeoneelsehadonce
claimedthatHeathwasapaedo.
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thisisdifferentfromtheonei'mremembering,whichinvolvedapimpwhocamecleanaboutservingup"rentboys"
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[] theinspectorst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatsoundslikeatwistonthefalseclaimagainstTedHeath.FromWikipedia:
Reportson3AuguststatedthattheIndependentPoliceComplaintsCommission(IPCC)wastoexaminean
allegationbyaformerseniorpoliceofficerthatacriminalprosecutionofbrothelkeeperMyraForde,accused(and
convictedinalatercase)ofsupplyingunderagegirlstoclients,wasnotpursuedbyWiltshirePoliceaftershe
reportedly"threatenedtoexpose"thatHeathmayhavebeeninvolvedinoffencesconcerningtheabuseofchildren
andwhethertheforceproperlyinvestigatedtheclaimsofabuse,whichhadbeenmadeinthe1990s.[80]InAugust
2015,Fordedeniedhavinganyknowledgeormakinganythreat.[81][82]Thecounselfortheprosecutioninthecase
confirmedinalettertoTheTimesthatthecasewasdroppedbecausethreeprosecutionwitnesseshadrefusedto
testify,notbecauseofanyallegationsagainstHeath.[83]FordelaterclaimedtotheTheSunthathe'dvisitedherfor
maleescorts"over21andunder30",andthatshemayhaveinadvertentlymentionedhewasacustomertothe
policesheclaimedshehadn'tdonethisasathreatorinferredhewasapaedophile.[76]
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nahthispimpwasamaniirc
icouldjustbemuddledtho(butidoubtit,irememberanimageoftheguyposedinfrontofparliamentonthe
bridge)
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PrinceAndrewisdefinitelyinvolvedwiththisshadyshit,twoofhisreallygoodfriendsincludeJeffreyEpstein(disgracedpaedophile
billionairewhoranahighprofilepaedophileringinwhichrichpeoplehavesexwithorphanchildren)andJimmySaville.
IfAndrewisn'tapaedophile,I'lleatmyhat.Unsurprisinglytheformerstoryhascompletelydisappeareddespitehimstillstanding
accusedofhavingsexwithanunderagedgirlintheUS.
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Wasn'thisnickname"RandyAndy"?Atleastthat'swhatIrememberfromtabloidsandBloomCountycomics.
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Yeah,that'stheone.
Onthesubjectoftheroyals,Philipwasinvolvedinsomedubiousbehaviourtoo.Hewaspartofa'stag'groupthat
includededitorsfromtheMailandExpress,PeterUstinov,KimPhilby(asecretintelligencehigherup)andStephen
Ward(socialitepimpwithtiestosecretintelligence).
ItgetshardertonotfeellikeI'mparanoidwhenIlookatthingslikethis.
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ishetheonethatgotshatoninthestatedepartmentcablesthatwikileakspublished?
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Thedukeofyork?Yeah,that'stheone.
Wasthatsomethingabouthimopposinganticorruptionlaws?
Ican'tquiteremember.
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theonei'mrememberingwashimgettingdrunkatapublicrestaurantwithahighlevelstatedepartmentofficial
andmouthingoffaboutthewestandrussiabeingengagedinanew"greatgame"
thecablebasicallycalledhimadipshitandhegotpulledoffofwhatevereconomicambassadorpositionitwas
thatheheldatthetime.
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[] m15wallis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn,theDukeisanasshole.TypicalBrittoshitontheUSwhilestilltryingtoemphasizetheiralliance.
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[] xpoc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcanbealliedwithsomeoneandstillbecriticalofthem.Justbecauseit'sinBritain'sbestinterests
tobeallieswithAmericadoesn'tmeantheyhavetosuckAmericasdickateveryopportunity.
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Nobodysaidtheyhadtosuckourdicks.It'sjustthatthisisn'tthe1910's,sobeingextremely
crassandinsultingtoanambassadorisprettyrude,andit'svery,verycommonforalotof
BritishpeopleI'vemettothinkabsolutelynothingofputtingdownAmericansandexpecting
(sometimesevendemandingwithsomeofthesedudesI'vemet)Americanstobelikea
Commonwealthnation,whichwearen'tandhavenodesiretobe.Itgetsold,andit'sreally
unbecomingofsomebodyofhisstation.
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[] undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowsomepeoplejokeabouttheUSbeingacolonybutnoonetakesthatseriously.
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[] kingofeggsandwiches undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lolpersecutioncomplexmuch?
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Notreally,justaverycommonthemeI'venoticedinBritishpeople.Thereisastrongtendency
to"writeoff"AmericansasbeingbasicallythesameastherestoftheAnglosphere(oratleast
sayweshouldbe)andwilloftenclaimthattheUSwouldnotbegreatwithouttheUKtohelpit.
Neitherofthosearereality,andit'sverydismissive.
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surebutyoujustshitonanallywhileemphasizingtheallianceaswellsoidon'tthinkit'saproblemof
nationalities
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Iknow,it'sjustbeenatypicalthingI'venoticedwithBritishpeopleI'vemet(andI'vemetalot)to
bothactlikewe'regoodfriends(whichweare,butthatwasn'talwaysthecase)andyetthey're
stillsomehowsuperiortous(whichthey'renot).It'snotuniversal,justbeenarecurring
experienceIkeephavingwithBritishpeople.
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Beinganally/frienddoesn'tmeanyoucan'tcriticise.ThereisalottoloveabouttheUS
andIachetovisitthereagain.Iwanttoroadtripeverystate.Butyourpoliceand
healthcarearesofuckedupIwouldprobablynevermovetherepermanently.
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welltheydidcraftanentireideologyaroundwhytheirdominationofmuchoftheworld
wassomethingotherthaninsidious
tobefairamericaisdoingmuchthesamenow.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/29/wikileakscablesrudeprinceandrew
ThisisallIrememberreadingonit.Thanksforthecableandrejoggingmymemory.
He'sasketchybastard.Thesepeopleareourheadsofstate,jesus.
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yeaharistocracyisaratheroutdatedconceptlol
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We'reprobablyonalistnow.
Thenagain,Iprobablywasalready.
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ohidefinitelywas:P
tbhtheyprobablyhaveabout100liststhattheyjustsorteveryoneinto.
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[] mahm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheformernationalheadoftheUSChildProtectionServiceisnowtodaysittinginjailafterheorderedupafosterkidforhimtofuckto
death(snuff)
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Willcallbullshituntilasourcecanbefound.Youdidn'tprovideone,andnoonecanfindany.
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[] Smalls_Biggie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What.The.Fuck.
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Whatishisname?Ididagooglesearchandcouldn'tfindanythingaboutit.
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[] winwar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait,whatthefuck,areyouserious??
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[] 1337Gandalf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source?
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[] 215Kurt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wbo?
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[] isthereanyotherway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Waitwhaaaat?
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[] makethemsayayy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CPSarefuckingscumbagswhogoaftergoodparentsandignoretrulybadones
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[] wantonballbag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?Moreonthis?
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[] say592 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icouldn'tfindanyinformationaboutthis.Whendiditoccur?
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[] xxMarsxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Name?Link?
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"NationalheadoftheUSChildProtectionService"isn'tevenaposition.There'snotoneChildProtectiveServicethisisthe
nameofmanygovernmentagenciesthatexistonstatelevel.
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[] kerrrsmack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Europehasahorrible,widespreadproblem?Bettertellanegative,singularincidenceintheUStodetractattentionfromit!
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Ohno.Let'ssingleoutaproblemthat'scommonallovertheworldassolelyEuropeanandthengetbutthurtwhenit'spointed
outthatit'snotjustEurope.
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Oneevent!=widespreadproblem.Seemslikeyou'retheonegettingupsethere.
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Comeoffit,there'sbeenplentyofchildsexscandalsaroundinfluentialAmericans.
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!=widespreadproblem.
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SowhyisitawidespreadprobleminEurope?Youseemtobefondofapplyingadoublestandard.
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[] drawnred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsfunnywhenyouuselogicwhenarguingwithsomeoneandthentheyjustdisappear
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[] zue3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouhonestlybelievetheUSdoesn'thaveplentyofpeoplethattakeadvantageofchildren?Ifanythingthat'swhyAmericans
areconstantlycryingoutagainstit,theyhopenobodysuspectsthem.
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[] Wompie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seethisisoneofthosethingswhereyou'rejustgonnalooklikeanidiotwithoutprovidinganyproof.Thereare
hundredsofcasesmadepublicinEuropeandveryfewofUSofficials.Gonnaneedtoseesomeproofherebeforeyou
canjustsay"LolAmericadoesittooandifyoudon'tthinksourdumb."
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[] loordien_loordi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Europeisn'tacountry,it'sacontinent.WehavedifferentcountriesandculturesinEurope.
Youshouldcheckitoutongoogle,it'sactuallytheplacewheremostofyourancestorscomefrom.
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[] Wompie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sweetrebuttal,bro.Next.
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[] zue3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asdoesanybodywhosaysotherwise.Molestationandrapeisworldwide.
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jesus.couldigetalinkforthis?havingtroublefindingthename
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[] hazardmfj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'tfindanythingaboutthis.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/ukpolitics28189072
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/ukpoliticsvideo/10951290/HomeSecretaryTheresaMayannouncesreviewby
NSPCCchiefonWestminsterchildabuseallegations.html
http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=38976
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/07/usbritainabuseinquiryidUSKBN0FC1M520140707
Googleisyourfriend..
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[] ImDravenUCrazy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lrn2googlescrub
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[] Redrocketz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probablywantedtoavoidincludingthephrase"fuckschildtodeath"fornumerousreasons
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[] Hu5k3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisgooglescrub?
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Iwasgivinghimatasteofhiselitistbullshittery.
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that'snotamerica,either.thisseemslikepotentiallyadifferentcasefromtheoneOPreferenced.
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Noit'snotAmericabuttheproblemisglobal,butjustwantedtopointoutitsreal...
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okaybutwhydidyoufeeltheneedtoinsultmefornotbeingabletofindaneventtangentiallyrelatedtothe
eventiwassearchingfor?
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Itwasn'tintendedtobeaninsult...
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whatdidyougoogleoutofcuriosity
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Igoogled"formernationalheadoftheUSChildProtectionServicejail"
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Prayingwon'thelp.YouhavetoaskaRedditor.
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Yesthisisn'tonlyaEuropeanproblem.ConspiracyofSilenceisamadeforTVdocproducedby2BritsabouttheBoystown,
Nebraskascandal.Onevictimclaimstohavebeengivenatourofthewhitehousewhilewiththejohnwhopaidforhis(littleboy)
sevices.
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[] mrnickylu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotjustintheUK.Fullyoutubedocumentaryoftheinsanecorruptionofglobalgovernmenttryingtocoveruphighlevel
pedophilerings.Disgusting.https://youtu.be/QIGtdOfyRAU
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Onevictimclaimstohavebeengivenatourofthewhitehousewhilewiththejohnwhopaidforhis(littleboy)sevices.
One"callboy"waslikelyJeffGannon,the(documented)homosexualprostitutewhowasgivenspecialaccesstotheWhite
Houseaspressdespitehavingzerocreditialsandhavingneverevenwrittenanarticle,whoclearlyknewGWBwell.It's
theorizedthatheisJohnnyGosch,akidwhodisappearedataveryyoungage,andwasoneofthechildrenexploitedduring
theBoysTownscandal.
Thewholethingisafuckedup,evilmesswiththeBushfamilyinvolveduptotheirnecks.
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[] Hu5k3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThismustbewhothewritersofHouseofCardsgivetothenovelisttaskedwithwritingFrank'sstory.
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[] Golisten2LennyWhite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whaaaat.Wheredidthatseriesofpicscomefrom?
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[] Cgn38 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistheonewherethewomanasanadultacuseswithvastamountsofevidenceabunchofpoliticalfiguresandgetsa
prisonsentenceforlying.
TheyhadaUSrepresentativeopenlysayingtherewasachildsexringbeingprotectedfromtheverytopandtherewasnot
shithecoulddoaboutit.
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[] silentanonymous7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DatrhJarJar!r/darthjarjar
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[] ListenToTheStooges undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattheRandCorporation,inconjunctionwiththesaucerpeople,underthesupervisionofthereversevampires,areforcingour
parentstogotobedearlyinafiendishplottoeliminatethemealofdinner!
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[] sd51223 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneisclosertodefinitelytrue.TherewasamassiveconspiracytheorywithincertainmembersoftheBushregimespecifically
Cheney,Rumsfeld,andCIAdirectorGeorgeTenet,totrumpupandintentionallymisinterprettheintelligenceontheHusseinregimein
ordertoconvinceeveryoneelsetolaunchtheIraqWar.
Powell,thePresident,andmustimportantlyallofCongresswerekeptoutoftheloop.Todayoneofthebigstickingissuesinthe
Democraticprimaryishowcandidatesvotedonthewarauthorization.Butdon'tforget,ALLtheCongressmenknewwasthataccording
totheCIAtheyhadintelligencethattheycouldn'tshare,butitwasadefinite'slamdunk'thatSaddamwasbuildingupWMDs.And
beforethatpoint,theCIAhadn'tsoblatantlygonebehindthebacksofCongressandthePresident.Noonehadreasontonotbelieve
them.
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[] Whiplash0409 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITT:Basicallythesameanswerswegeteverytimethisisreposted.
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[] JaapHoop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BinLadenwasn'tinhidinginPakistan.ThePakistanisecurityservicesknewwherewehasthewholetimeandhadhimunderhouse
arrest.ThePakistanisecurityservicestradedBinLadenforabumpinUSfinancialaid.ThewholestoryofthediscoveryofBinLaden
wasmanufacturedtosavefaceforPakistanandensureasecondtermforObama.
Idon'tbelievemostoftheconspiracytheories,butthatoneIcankindofbelieve.
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[] BlitheringEediot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFK'sAssassinationwasaconspiracy.Idon'tknowwhichconspiracyismostpossiblytruebutICANtellyouthatyou'llneverbelieve
the"SingleGunmanTheory"ifyoutraveltoDealeyPlazainDallas,Texas,andstandonthegrassyknoll.WhywouldLeeHarvey
OswaldwaitforthePresident'sentouragetodrivedirectlyathishidingplacebutnotfireuntilthecarshadturnedthecornerandwere
headeddownhill&awayfromtheBookDepositorybuilding?
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[] Owasippe_Ninja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseifhe'sdrivingaway,therecoilfromthefirstshothelpshimadjustaimforthesecond.
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[] Lynchmaster69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsnothowgunswork
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[] Lynchmaster69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsnothowgunswork
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[] Aaberg123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/actualconspiracies
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[] auzymays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thefactthatthisquestiongetsaskedallthetime.
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[] TruthSpeaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostpeoplecommentingherearenotansweringthequestionbutmerelyrecitingtheirpetconspiracytheory.
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[] birch1981 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PrincessDianawasmurderedbytheBritishRoyalFamily
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[] DanTillTheEnd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFK'sassassination
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[] BlitZOfSBB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid911
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[] Blake7567 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NeededaserioustagOP
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[] speech_freedom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisabrainreprogrammingmachineinDC.That'swhyallthepoliticianchangetheirstancetheminutetheytaketheoffice.They
neverdowhattheypromisedinthecampaign.
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Wouldn'titjustbeeasiertogetpoliticiansbackedby[insertwhoever's'really'runningthecountry]tolie?
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[] Creftor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthey'realljustlyingturdswhoneverintendedtodeliverwhattheypromised
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[] Mixedrinks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatJasonDerulodoesn'texist
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[] berb98 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatDisneysecretlydoesanysortofsecrettestingontheircustomerswhiletheyareinthepark.Aswellastheypartakeinchild
trafficking.
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[] nobp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLoveprobablyhadsomethingtodowithKurtCobainkillinghimself.
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[] cpsmith30 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfueldoesn'tmeltsteelberms.
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[] Fudgiee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuel=blown
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anythingabouttheUSgovernmentdoingsomethingsinister
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[] olpdrew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StevieWonderisn'tblind.Thisisafunonetosubscribeto
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[] Mrchezzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisnothingnewinthisthreadthatIhaventreadbefore.
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[] egalroc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Corporationshavedisguisedthemselvesaspeopleandaretakingovertheworld.Theyplanonusingthemassesasslaves.
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[] MississippiJoel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamnoconspiracytheorist,butIdobelieveinoneinparticular:thatBobbyKennedywasnotactuallykilledbySirhanSirhan.Ithinkthe
securityguard'sgunaccidentlywentoffinthestruggle,anditwashitbulletthathitbehindRFK'sear.Theconspiracybeingthe
coverup,sincetheshotwouldhavecertainlybeenanaccidentbysomeonewhowasjusttryingtodohisjob.
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IjustreadthatSirhanSirhanwasatargetoftheCIAexperimentsinmindcontrol..
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[] fluffyhairdontcare undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HitlerlivedandescapedtoArgentinarightbeforehe"committedsuicide."
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[] IoGibbyoI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://vault.fbi.gov/adolfhitler/adolfhitlerpart01of04/view
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Yep.
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[] SaberHamLincoln undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source?
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NotsureifIcanfinditanymore.Localgundealertoldmethestoryandshowedmeanewspaperarticle.I'lltrytofinditonline
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[] ectoplasma34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikewehaveaconspiracythreadeveryweek...
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[] billio42282 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theultimatemessagebehindthispostisthatthey'realltrue
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[] ObecalpEffect undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BushfamilybeinginvolvedwiththeassassinationofJFK.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlJQJUUqR4
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[] Maikerudono undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11
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[] AGnawedBone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shay'sRebellionwasspecificallyorchestratedinordertoscareantiFederalistsandensureastrongercentralgovernment.Thisserved
asthebasisformanyfalseflag,andpartialfalseflag,eventsthathaveoccurredallthroughoutU.S.history.
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[] quecaliente undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Subredditsimulatorisjustrandomcommentsreposted.
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[] rediigger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasanoutsidejob.
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[] DevilleinaBlueDress undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatChapstickactuallymakesyourlipschappedsoyou'llkeepusingit.
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[] speedofgravity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] Christophar_Nolan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11
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[] pruo95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthJarjar?
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[] Rephaite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iprefertheoccasionallytoutedalternative,"DarthDarthBinks."
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[] OhHiGCHQ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
USconservativesaresoagainstcontraceptivesandabortionbecausetheywantmorelowincomefamiliestoprovideapoolofcheap
labour.
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Whentherobotsaregoodenough,you'regoingtoseeaseachangethere
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AsopposedtoUSliberals,whowantmoreyoung,lowincomevoters.
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How?
Socialwelfareprogramshaveredefined"poor"inAmericatomeanonlyonecarratherthantwo,a40"TVratherthana60"TV,and
aGalaxyS4insteadofaGalaxyS6cellphone.LiberalshavehelpedthepoorinAmericasowellthetermhaslostallmeaning.
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[] seaboardist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Again,justafact.Andtheywantthemuneducatedsothey'llkeepvotingRepublicanandsupportingwars.
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Blatantly!
Wasn'tittheTexasSchoolBoardthatsaidtheyareagainstteachingcriticalthinkingskillsandanythingelsethatcouldleadto
studentsquestioningauthority?
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[] bouncyboobs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getridoftheminimumwagetoo,soyoucanhaveaproperbiddingwar.Notsurewheretheyplantoputalltheshantytownsthough,
whenpeopleareworkingfor$2/hr.
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[] praise_be_to_brodin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Someoneisbeinggenerous.
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[] IamDrPerson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowmanyConservatives,Icanassureyouthey'reagainstabortionbecausetheyhonestlybelieveintheirheartsthatisitliterally
murder
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alwaysstrikesmeasoddconsideringhowagainsthelpingthepoorandneedytheonesihavemetare
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Ibelievethatthosepeopleyou'retalkingaboutarethedwindlingbasethatarepanderedtobythepsychopathswhoknowhowto
tugaheartstringtosecureavote.Ipredicttherearezeropeopleinpowerfulpositionswhodespitebeingloudlyconservativeare
genuinelyopposedtoabortion.Manyhavehadthem.
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[] TOASTEngineer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseriouslydon'tunderstandhowyoucanthinkitisn'tmurder.I'mnotevenagainstit,butthementalgymnasticsneededtoarrivein
"oh,I'mnotreallykillingaperson"arejustspectacular.
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Iupvotedyou,eventhoughIvehementlydisagreewithyou.Apieceofprotoplasmisnotaperson,andit'shorrifyingtoequate
amassofcellswithahumanbeing.
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Whocareswhatitis?Thefactofthematteristhatyou'recausingapersontonotexist.Infanticide,abortion,andjust
notconceivinginthefirstplacearemoreorlessethicallyidenticaleitheryoucreatethispersonoryoudon't.
Thequestionisnot"isthisaperson,"thequestionis"whateffectwillcreatingthispersonhaveonthewellbeingofthe
persontheirlifetouches?"
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Buttoequateanactualperson'svaluetoapotentialperson'svalueisvicious.Totrumpthevalueofawoman's
righttoherownlife,body,destiny,andautonomyforsomehyperromanticized,nebulousversionofpossible
personhoodisreduceawomantolessvaluethenthatofastockfarmanimal.Irespecttheautonomyof
personhood,whichiswhyawomanisjustifiedinnotbeingcompelledtoincubatecellstofruition.Youeither
respectthemostoryourespectdreamsthemost.
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[] thenichi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreeit'skillingahuman.Idonotagreethatthathumanisapersoninanymorallyrelevantsense.(Norareyounginfants,
forthatmatter.)
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[] HST_Boy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitdependsonhowyoudefineaperson.Iwouldarguethatablastocyst,embryo,orfetusistechnicallyaparasitewith
thepotentialtobecomeaperson.IfIcreateequivalentstructuresorculturesimilartissueinalabenvironment,arethose
people?Ifso,IVFclinicscommitwholesalegenocideeachyearbydisposingofunusedembryoswhicharen'timplanted.
Youcouldsaythatanewlyformedembryoorfetushasthepotentialtodevelopintoaperson,but1520%ofwanted
pregnanciesendinaccidentalmiscarriage.Therearefurthercomplicationsduringthebirthingprocess,soIpersonallybelieve
thatit'sanoversimplificationtosaythatabortingapregnancyatanystageisinherentlyhomicidal.
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Murder:
noun
Law.thekillingofanotherhumanbeingunderconditionsspecificallycoveredinlaw.
Abortionislegal.Therefore,notmurder.But,Iunderstandyouwantastrongerargumentthatsemantics,solet'smoveon.
Also,manydonotbelievethata1sttrimesterfetusisapersonyet.Muslims,forexample,actuallydon'tbelievethatalifeis
sacreduntilextremelylateinpregnancy(Ilookeditup,120days)accordingtosomeinterpretationsoftheirvariousscriptures.
ALSO,whilethevastvastmajorityofabortionsoccurinthefirstfewmonthsofpregnancybeforeorgansareformedandthe
fetusisalmostunidentifiablebetweenamonkey,dogorbirdatasimilarstage,someabortionsareadvisedbydoctorsvery
lateinthepregnancybecausethefetusisdeformed(notmentallyretarded,butsomethingextremethatwillresultindeathor
anexistenceofpurepain,likeanorgandevelopingoutsideofthebody,orirreparablebraindamage),orbecausethebirthwill
harm/killthemother,thechildorboth.JustonRedditinthepastmonthwasthestoryofawomanwhohadastillbornfetus
insideofher,andbylawwouldhavehadtocarryitformonthsand"givebirth"tothedeadfetusbecauselawspreventinglate
termabortionsinallcases,soshedroveacross2statelinestohavetheprocedure.
Fetuscomparisonsofdifferentspecies:http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/wpcontent/blogs.dir/408/files/2012/04/i
e0ec58fc79b513a470b0a57c7c1de0fe201006211304.jpg.
AninterpretationofIslamicscriptureonthespiritenteringthebody:http://biblequran.com/hadith04imamnawawi/
Stillbornabortionstory:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/28/secondtrimesterabortion/74734728/
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Peoplecan'tcopewithactuallykillingtheirownbabysotheypretenditisn'tahuman
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Theymightbelievethat,whataboutthehigherups?
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Probablyamixture
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Idon'tthinkso.
Thehigherupshavedonetheirresearch.They'veseenwhatanoabortionsocietylookslike,theyknowit'sbullshitand
doesn'twork,thatortheyliketheideaof13yearoldrapevictimshavingchildrenandbackstreetabortions.
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NewYorkisahologram
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AmericawasinvolvedintheformationofISIS.
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Heathledgeristommywiseau
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[] macgrubers1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatTaiwanisnumber1andChinaisnumber4.
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[] blkknght undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatGeorgeHWBushattemptedtoassassinateRonaldReaganwhilehewasvicepresident.GeorgeHWBushhavingservedas
directoroftheCIAknewJohnHinckley'sfatherJohnHinckley,Sr.
JohnHinckleySractuallywasaprominentdonortoHWBush'spresidentialcampaignpriortoBushlosingandultimatelyjoining
Reagan'sticketasVP.
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[] jetraxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfDonaldTrumpbecomespresident,withthepoliticalandmilitarypowerofAmerica,hecouldwipeallminoritiesoffthefaceofthe
Earth.
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butIamsurethatsomeofthemaregoodpeople
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[] JobDestroyer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Americacan'tevenconquerAfghanistanproper.Howcantheydoracialgenocide?
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[] DerpSherpa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Promise?
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[] Seal3824 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotaconspiracy,that'safact.
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[] LadyKlaymoor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovekilledKurtCobainandmadeitlooklikeasuicide.
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[] deathlyzero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obamaisgayandmichelleisadude!:)
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Iseewe'vemovedonfrombirthcerts.
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[] PoeToaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IdunnoifpreviouslysaidbutILLUMINATItopsthemall...Youcanseethesignseverywhere!Damn'Eye'!
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[] Xtianpro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisshockinglylittleevidencethatHitlerdiedinBerlin.Theonlysourceisoneofthesurvivingguards.Wenowknowthattheskull
recoveredwasnotHitlers,notevenaman'sinfact(neitherwasitEvaBraun's)
StalinneverbelievedHitlerwasdead,theU.S.wascertainlyskeptical.
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Therealreasonheworethatmustache:sothatnobodywouldrecognizehimwhenheshaveditoff.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article2134780/HitlerdisguiseUSintelligencepreppedNazileaderfleeingcreatingimageslooklike
minusmustache.html
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[] peachymean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eventhen,livinginexileasHitlermusthavesucked.Seeingeverythingyouworkedforfallapart,beingoneofthemosthatedmenin
history,watchingthepeoplewhodefeatedyouturnyouintoajoke.StillbeatsgettingcaughtbytheRussians,Iguess.
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IIRChehadtheSSburnhisbodysotheRussianscouldn'tdesecrateit,andthenleftarandomdeadbodyinitsplace.
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IthoughthewasattheEagle'sNestanyway,notBerlin?
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[] LeagueOfRoosterteeth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActuallyimprettysuretheUSreleasedthedocumentstatingthatHitlerfledtoArgentinaafterthewar
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HowwouldhehaveescapedBerlin?AndGermany?TheyweresurroundedbySovietsandAmericansonallsides.Plusthedocks
wereblockadedbytheUKandUS.
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No,hediddieintheundergroundbunkerofBerlin.Morethan1personcouldhearthegunshotafterheandEvawenttotheirroom.
ThisincludesHitler'ssectarywhoheardit.
Wherehisremainsareisthemystery.
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Someonecertainlydiedinthebunker,Hitlerwasknowntousedoublesthough.Thebodythatwasrecoveredwascertainlynothis.
Basicallytheonlyevidencethathediedthereis,isthoroughlyanecdotal
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Thebodythatwasrecoveredwascertainlynothis.
TheRussiansclaimtohavehisjawbonewhichhasnotyetbeentested.Howcanyoumakesureablatantliethatrunsagainst
theconsensusofWW2historywehavetoday?
ThereWEREbodiesfound.BytheAmericansownaccounts,theRedArmyburntofasmuchofHitler'sbodytheycouldafter
enteringtheFuhrerbunker.
Goebellshimselfimitatedhisgreatleaderinthebunkerbykillinghimself,hiswifeandhis8childrenwhosegraveswereall
found.
ThereisliterallynoevidenceFORthecaseyouaremakingthatHitlerescaped.Sorrytoruinyourfantasy.
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[] lv426_janitor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hitlerwasahardcorepatriot.Hesaidthatthegermanpeopledidn'tdeservetobealiveifitcouldnotwinthewar.Ibelievehewas
sincereandIbelievehewouldratherhavediedthanleavehis"heimat".Also,heprobablyhadsyphilisandwasinsane.
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Hesaidthatthegermanpeopledidn'tdeservetobealiveifitcouldnotwinthewar.
healsosaidhewouldn'ttryandinvadeRussia,planschange
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[] WeaponsGradeHumanity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wheredidthesuicidestorycomefrom?
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[] numzfr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActuallyFBIbelievedheescapedandwenttoliveinArgentina.
src:I'vereaditmyselfinFBIarchivesafteritbuzzed6monthsago.
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[] Regemony undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomesaythattothisdayheisworkingasaTwitchchatmoderator.
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[] redwald undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sadudethatworksoutatmygymwhoisaspittingimageofHitler.It'suncanny.Andhe'sjustabouttherightagetohavebeen
Hitler'skid,ifHitlerhadsurvivedthewarandescapedtoCalifornia.
I'vebeentryingfor2yearstogetacandidpictureoftheguy,butIcan'teverpullitoff.
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AlotofformerNazi'swoundupinBrazil.
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Yeah,takealookatOperationPaperclip.Therewasprobablymoretothat,andthatwasthelimitedhangout.
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[] IoGibbyoI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://vault.fbi.gov/adolfhitler/adolfhitlerpart01of04/view
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[] RiSC1911 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EveryoneknowsheescapedonaUBoattothesecretNaziBaseinAntarcticathatalsoguardstheentrancetotheinnerearthwhere
helivedtherestofhisdaysplottingrevenge.
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Haha,yeahaboutthat,letsnotallforgetthatStalinwascompletelynuts.Hewasparanoidabouthisownguardskillinghimwithoutany
provocation.
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[] Jwarrior521 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExceptapieceofHitler'stoothwasbroughttohisdentistwhereheconfirmeditwashisafterthewar.
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[] jwarrick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,thatiwrong.TheSovietswentlookingforHitler'sdentistinBerlin.Theyendedupfindingthepersonandaskedthepersonto
drawthemapictureofhisteethfrommemory.Itendedupmatchingwellenoughforthemtojustacceptitwithouthavinganyreal
records.
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[] wantonballbag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sowhereishethen?
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[] kunbun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoIthinkthatHitlershavingoffhismoustachewouldmakehimunrecognizable,makingiteasierforhimtoescape.
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[] SaberHamLincoln undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HitlersManyFaces.png
Agreed,99%ofpeoplewouldneverknowitwasHitler
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[] rosiedoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BottomleftisChristopherfuckingLee!
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ManthatmiddleleftpicturelooksexactlylikeasubstituteteacherIhadinHighSchool....Waitaminute.
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[] GrandMasterReddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BottemRight:
AdolfHipstler
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[] what_katy_did undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MiddlerightisAlanWhicker.
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[] Globo_Gym undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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IshowedmymomthebottomleftpicandshethoughtitwasWaltDisney.
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[] babuguuscooties undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
COINCIDENCE????
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[] PM_ME_UR_KIDNEYS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theplotthickens....
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[] UC_Links undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaIjustheardaboutthis.SupposedlyheescapedinaUBoatalongwithotherhigherupsintheNazipartyandendedupinArgentina.
Ithinktherewasatvshowaboutit.SorryIhavenosources,justheardsecondhandsoitmightaswellbefactatthispoint.
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[] Kwindecent_exposure undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gilligan'sIsland.
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[] The_Kazekage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YearthereisaTVshowaboutit,Idon'trememberitsnamethough.IthinkIdidntcomeoutyet.
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[] ReservoirDog316 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/od/thehistoryofargentina/a/WhyDidArgentinaAcceptNaziWarCriminalsAfterWorldWar
Two.htm
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[] Gromiter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Argentinayousay?Ithinkweknowwhotosend.
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[] Prometheus720 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seenthiswholemovietwice.Watchingthisagainanyway.
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[] advan84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndhisnameisJohnCena!!!!
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[] ICritMyPants undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JohnCenawouldn'tdoshit.Idon'tgettheloveinpeoplehaveforJohnCena.
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Whywecouldn'tjustgetafullmovieofMagneto:NaziHunterisbeyondme.
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[] iEzhik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mactuallyinmindtoseesomemoviesaboutsomethinglikethatnow.Anybodygotrecommendations?
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[] babyredpandas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotamovie,butapparentlyMagneto'scurrentrunisbasicallyhimpunchingNazis.
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[] TheTatCat213 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBoysfromBrazil.GregoryPeck.Goodflick!
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[] somedudefromerlange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Ironsky.It'sawellproducedscifinazyslayin'comedy.Enjoy!
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imeanodessawasrealbutmossadalmostdefinitelywouldhavefoundhisass
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ThebookIreadonthetopicshowedevidencethattheUBoatinquestionreallydidleaveDenmarkandsailtoArgentinaafter
thewar,sinkingseveralshipsenrouteforsupplies.Theonlyquestioncomesinwhenyouaskwhoexactlywasontheship.
TheirtheorywasthatHitlerleftArgentinaquitequickly,movedtotheremoteAmazonjungleinBrazil,andeventuallydiedof
oldage.Ironically,thepersonthattheybelievewasreallyHitlerhadablackgirlfriend.
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imeanodessawasrealnoonediscountsthat
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Somepeopledo.ButsomepeoplealsobelievethatBinLadenhasbeendeadforlike12years.
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[] FThornton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theywouldhavehuntedhisassdownanddraggedhimthroughastreetmadeofglassshardsbeforepubliclyexecutinghim.
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[] somedudefromerlange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hetriedtopreventwhat'shappeningtoday.
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Andthentheydothesametosomepalestiniankid.
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Probablywouldrevengeteardownhishousefirst.Thenbuildsettlementsthere.
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[] robinpescador undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
???
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[] RangersCrusader undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibethe'sdeadnow
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Unlessthelizardsarekeepinghimalive.
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[] 9bikes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyonecanrelax.Heisprobablydeadbynow.
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orishe?TADADADAAAA
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Wrong!
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[] Gillzer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallyhe'sstillaliveandwell,currentlyresidingontheothersideofthemoon.
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Canyouimagineiffuckinghitlerisstillaliveandcomesbacklikeaplottwisttoamovie.
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[] PMMEYOUR_LABIA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hestartedstormfrontandreddit.
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[] Dinokknd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yes,andaGermanmoviecouldbemadeaboutit.Wewouldcallit"Eristwiederda."
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[] bethnny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LiketheEuropeversionofVoldemort!
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[] ComedyHorror undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Umm...PrettysureVoldemortisfromEurope...Hogwartsisn'tinAmerica
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plottwisttrumpscrazytalkaboutdatabasesandbadgesareactuallybecauseheishitlerreincarnatetocomebackandfinally
bestamerica
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[] juicy_squirrel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
northamericaisBESTamerica!
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[] whiskeytango55 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butifyouconsiderhavingyourartificiallypreservedhead(i.e.fancyjar)graftedontoagorillabodyalivethenhe'sstillalive.
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[] gredgex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatsjustwhatcyborghitlerwouldwantyoutothink...
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Getpsyched!
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YESBUTDIDTHEYSAVEHISBRAIN
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[] bundle_of_bricks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybetheyputitinarobot.CyborgHitler!
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[] MyDeloreanWontStart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OHMYGODTHATSWHEREDALEKSCOMEFROM
Exterminate!Exterminate!
Itallmakessense
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[] jmkni undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyone'salwaysinfavorofsavingHitler'sbrain,butwhenyouputitinthebodyofagreatwhiteshark.Ooo,suddenly
you'vegonetoofar!
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[] GEN_CORNPONE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,buttheydidsavehiscock.
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riskyclickoftheday
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[] 1337_IT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
4chansavedhisbrain
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[] Bismarcus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoisthis4chan?
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[] TasteTheRaimbow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sanelitehackerwhocomesfromReddit.Hisprofilecanbefoundon/r/4chan
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[] Catatafish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydecryptedhisbrainand/pol/poppedup.
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[] MofuckaOfInvention undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButcouldevenHitler'ssteelwillproducesuchdankmemes?
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ThankMrSkeltalforHitler'sbrain
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[] Jordsvin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atleastwecanbesurethathe'sdeadnowandhasbeenforatleast50years.
WhydoesitmatterwhetherhediedinBerlinorArgentina?
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[] enjolras1782 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dbeprettypissedifIfoundoutthegenocidaldictatorsupposedlydeadhadspenthislastyearsonabeach
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Imeanthat'showmostpeoplewhostartgenocidesendup.EitherScottfreeorunderhousearrest.
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So,uh,yasee,aboutthatMengeleguy...
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[] SvenHudson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theimportantthingisthatheisnolongerinpower.
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Yes,that'sthemostimportantpart,butitwouldbesweetifhewasn'tgettingasuntanWhiletheywerejustliberating
Auschwitz
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[] TakeTheShotStaaaan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldberight.
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[] kittenmommy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,that'sthemostimportantpart,butitwouldbesweetifhewasn'tgettingasuntanWhiletheywerejust
liberatingAuschwitz
Evenifhewere,I'mprettysureit'sreallyhotwhereheisnow!
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Itsnotanythingwhereheis,he'sdead.Andifhediedbothhappyandwithhislegacysecurethenhewon
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Ifhavingasecurelegacyisallittakesforhimtowin,he'salreadywon.
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Actuallyhimsurvivingthewarisnotsobad.HewouldhavelivedlongenoughtoseeGermanyget
torninhalf,andforIsraeltobecreated.Iimaginethat'sgottabehisworsenightmarecometrue.
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HonestlyIdon'tthinkhehatedJewsthatmuch.HeevengotafewJewsheknewoutofthe
countrybeforeshitwentdown.Hejustneededascapegoatandasourceofcheaplabortodrive
thewareffort,andeveryoneandtheirbrotherdiscriminatestheJews.
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[] _disposable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmightwannagetoffthathighhorsebuddy...
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[] MettaWorldPeach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,howarrogantofthispersonforwantingliterallyHitlertopayforhisgenocideandcrimesagainst
humanity
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[] _disposable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'sbeendoneisdone,allthosepeoplewhowereinvolvedareeitherdeadordead.andthe
handfulremainingmovedonwiththeirlivesdecadesago.
Andtokeepbitchingaboutitforthenext50yearswon'tdojackshit.Unlesshe'sgrandstandingand
doingitforkarma...
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[] Maccin15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Showme(convincing)evidencehesurvived.
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[] ILikeMyDogNotYours undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwouldbeconsistentwithU.S.doctrine.OsamaBinLaden'sbodywasthrownouttosea.Ifyouburythefuckersthentheir
followershaveashrineofmartyrdom.Iftheyjustdisappear,whatdoyoudo?
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TheUSdidn'tcaptureHitler'sbodythough.TheofficialstoryisthatitwascrematedunprofessionallybyNaziguardsthen
buried.Sovietscapturedthebunkerandthebody.TheKGBreburieditinanunmarkedgraveinaremotesecretlocationsoit
couldneverbeusedasanazishrine.That'stheofficialstoryanyway.
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[] uberduger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whileweareonconspiracies,Ireallydon'tthinkthatthebodydumpedintotheseawasOsama.NowaywouldAmericahave
killedsomeonesupposedlyresponsibleforsomethingsohugeintheUSandnothavemademoreofhisdeath.
Idon'tbuyit.Notforonesinglesecond.
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[] _676767676767_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
100%agree.Everyotherbigguyweshowtheworld.You'retellingmewejustdumpedthemostwantedmanonthe
planetanddidn'tevenreleaseanypictures?
However,Ithinkhewasalreadydead.Noone(inAlqueda)saidanythingbecauseiftheUSthoughthewasalivethey
wouldcontinuetryingtofindhim.Wecouldchasethatghostfordecades.
MytheorywasstrengthenedwhenitwasfoundouttheTalibandidjustthatwithMullaOmar.
Ithinktheygotthebodybackontheshipandrealizeditwasn'thimthenDumpedhimovertheside.Ifhe'salivehewill
popup,ifnotwecanstillsaywekilledhim.
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[] TheStormCallsYou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Makesnofuckin'senseatall.Theyprobablyhavehimstrunguptoacarbatteryinsomegovernmentbasementtrying
togetthelocationsofallofhispalsrightnow.
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[] The_Enchanted_Garden undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HostisHumaniGeneris=remainsburiedatsea.
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[] ownage516 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Makedankmemesofthem.
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[] Syphon8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheskullparadedaroundasHitler'sturnedouttobeawomans.
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[] ValKilmersLooks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MaybetheplottwististhatHitlerwasn'taman.
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That'sjuicy,especiallyconsideringLGBTpeoplewereputingaschambers.
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That'sjuicy,especiallyconsideringLGBTpeoplewereputingaschambers.
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[] piratse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheFBIdidn'teventhinkhewasdead.Itwasveryconvenienthowattheendofthewarhejusthappenedtocommitsuicideand
bringitalltoaneatend!C'mon,onlyamoronwouldthinkthat'showithappened.HeCLEARLYfledtoSouthAmericawithbillions
ofdollarsinjewels,art,andgoldwiththethousandsofotherhighprofileNazis.
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[] bobthecrusher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notsureifserious....
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Wellnowyou'llneverknow!
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GODDAMNYOUALLTOHELL!!!
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[] OfficerTwix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheMonumentsMenallmakessensenow
HitlerisactuallyGeorgeClooney.Hehidtheartandthenshavedoffhismustacheandthenwentbackandgrabbedtheart
andsolditbacktothegalleriesataraisedprice.
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[] CondorCalabasas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hesaidthereisnoevidencetoproveiteitherway.
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There'sliterallytestimonyfromthoseinthebunkerwhoheardthegunshotasEvaandHitlerlockedthemselvesintheirroom.
Thisincludes,SSguardsandhissecretary.
ThetheorythatHitlerescapedtoArgentinahasbeenwidelydismissedbyhistorians,whobelievethatHitlerandBraun
diedinthelastdaysofWorldWarIIinEurope.[5]HistorianGuyWaltersdescribedthetheoryas"2,000percentrubbish"
whentheDunstanandWilliams'bookwaspublished.Waltersadded:"It'sanabsolutedisgrace.There'snosubstancetoit
atall.Itappealstothedeludedfantasiesofconspiracytheoristsandhasnoplacewhatsoeverinhistoricalresearch."[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_about_Adolf_Hitler's_death
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MovieslikeDeathWishandRoboCopwerepropagandamadeattherequestoftoughoncrimepoliticiansofthe1980swhowishedto
dehumanizecriminalsintheeyesofeverydayAmericans,duringthebiggestrampingupoftheWaronDrugs.Themessageisthat
criminalsarescumwhodeservenorights,evenlife.
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Thatwouldexplainwhythereare5Deathwishmoviesandthefirstoneistheworstofthebunch.
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idon'tthinkyouunderstoodrobocop
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Tosellviolenceglorifyingtoystokidssothattheygrowupthinkingit'stotallyRADwhenlawenforcementusestonsoffirepowerto
dispense'justice'.
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i'msureyou'reprobablyrightaboutthisbutithinkgijoeorsomethingwouldbeabetterexample.robocopisasatiremocking
whatyou'redescribing.
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GIJoeisagreatexample,too.GovernmentpropagandadebutingrightaroundthestartoftheVietnamWar,evokingthe
heroismofWorldWarIIinordertoglorifyandlegitimizethemilitaryindustrialcomplex.
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tonystarkisanother
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IreadsomewherethatMarvelactuallycreatedTonyStarktochallengethemselves.Atatimewhenmostof
theirfanswereyoung,liberal,antiwarhippies,theymadeacharacterwhowasarichcapitalistweapon
makerwhomademoneyoffthemilitaryindustrialcomplex,andstillmadetheirfanslikehim.
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OklahomaCitybombingwasnottheworkoflonewolfrightwingers,butaconspiracyinvolvingIranandIraq.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Terrorist
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[] muzikmylife27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TuPacisinfactinaliiveandinCuba.andnowthatitsopenwecangolookforhisass.aliensdon'texist9/11wasthetalibantheresa
drugforcancerbutorganizationswanttomakemoneymarijuanaisntlegalizednationwidebctobacco,alcohol,andpillcompaniesstill
wanttoruletheindustry.
sometimesIoverthink
Whatatimetobealive...
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[] Cant_Remorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Explainhowaliensaren'treal
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[] muzikmylife27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
imean...ifuckedupman.realbad.ijustmeantheotherwayaround.mmk?
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[] Wizkaleafa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthJarJar
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[] Makkedeth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsideJob.Useyourbrain.
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[] TallRedditor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereissomethinginChapstickthatmakesyourlipsMOREchappedasyouapplyit
SoyouhavetobuymoreChapstick
SoyouhavetoapplymoreChapstick
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[] MrsCoach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthereisfiberglassintamponssoyouhavetobuymorebecauseyoubleedmore!
IreadthisonthebabyinternetswhenIwaslike13andittotallyfreakedmeout.
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Justuseyourearwax.Humanchapstick.
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[] Killigraphy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallythereasonyoutendtoapplymorechapstickduringthedayisbecausepeopletendtousetheirmouthsforeverything...talking,
suckingcock,eatingvag,sippingEarlGrey,etc.Thereapplicationhappensbecausepeopletendtokeeptheirmouthsbusy.Nowifyou
werewalkingthroughtherub'alKhalidesertyouwouldthankAllahyoubroughtwithyousomeBert'sBeeswaxchappystick.
Don'tbeafuckboy,usechapstick.
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[] mushbo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wash,rinse,REPEAT.REPEATREPEATREPEATREPEAT.
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[] Boston_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maps,Ibelievethatourlandmassesdon'tlookanythinglikewebelievetheydo,andit'sonebigmultinationalcoverup.
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[] kiblick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Recycling...
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[] MiG35 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11.
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[] GruntingTomato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheoneaboutReaganbribingtheIranianstoholdhostageslongersohecouldwinthepresidencyoverCarter.
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[] TheSporkening undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anotheronethatisnottheory,butpublicrecord.
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[] Alex1296 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheMilitaryhasalotofreversedengineeredalientechtech,kindalikewhattheyhaveinStargate
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[] La_Fee_Verte undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StargateisactuallyalienpropagandaseeallthestuffabouttheGreysbeingourbestalliesandhelpers?Yeah,that.
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[] FractalFractalF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snearlyimpossibleforJFK,RFKandMLKtoallhavebeenkilledwithoutsomelevelofcollusionbyHooverandconservativepolitical
elements.
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imeaninacivilsuitbroughtbyMLK'sfamilyajudgefoundthatgovernmentagencieswereatleastpartlyresponsible.nottomention
thelettertheFBIsenthimencouragingsuicideandalltherest.http://www.thekingcenter.org/civilcasekingfamilyversusjowers
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/mlktrial.asp
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nothingisaidisdisprovedbytheexcellentfactcheckingteamofsomehusbandandwifewithnoexperience
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[] trjones1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nearlyimpossible?Whatdoesthatevenmean?It'scertainlyverypossiblethattheycouldhavebeenunrelated.Whetherornotthey
wereisadifferentquestion.
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[] FractalFractalF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right,sonamemeanytimeinrecordedhistorywherethethreemajorplayersinapoliticalmovementwerekilledbyaccidentor
coincidence.Youcan't,becauseit'sneverhappenedanytimeyouseemasspoliticalkillings,therehasalwaysbeencovertorovert
coordinationbytheiropponents.
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[] Boredeidanmark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alotoflaborleadershavebeenkilledinunrelatedincidents.
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[] Fowlerbaby123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatGeneralMotorsandothercarcompaniesboughtmanystreetcarcompaniestoputthemoutofbusinesssopeoplewouldbuy
morecars.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy
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[] 9bikes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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ThiscorrectlyfitsOPcriteria.Itisprobablytruethejurybelieveditbutthejudgedidnot.
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[] svengast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Belgiumdoesn'texist
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[] thatbrownbrowndude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIlluminatiisreal.
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[] IntelWarrior undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gogurtisjustyogurt.
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[] bottegaveneta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yetanotherexampleofjokeanswersbeingupvotedtohideseriousones.Notatallsuspiciousinathreadlikethis.
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[] Frennsen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoumeanDjoghurt?
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[] LegacyCrono undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotyogurt.It'sDjogurt.
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[] ProfessorShitDick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?!Howlonghaveyoubeensittingonthisinformation?
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[] litrallyjustthispost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YogurtisjustGogurt,buttostay
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[] zoobify112 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Man,Icouldreallygoforsome'gurtrightnow
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[] Sorcatarius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Quietyourblasphemousmouthyoudirtyheathen!
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[] sensicle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
E40:IneedaGoGirlGogurt.
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[] HeywoodUCuddlemee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisalsocursed
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[] steve_johnson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ya,it'syogurtonthegosilly.
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[] ZWQncyBkaWNr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andfrogurtisjustreallycoldyogurt.
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[] Tarantulasagna undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Farfromit
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[] fuckyoubarry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwantanyonewhoisreadingthistoknowthatIamtakingsomeprettyseriouspersonalandprofessionalrisksbytellingyouthis.
Gogurtrepresentsarevolutionaryriftinyogurtproductiontechnology.
Yogurtsincetimeimmemorialhasbeenproducedinbatches.Gogurtisproducedcontinuously.Continuousyogurtproductionrequired
advancesinthefieldofmicrobiologyinorderforittobepossible.ThetubesGogurtcomesinarearesultofcomingupwithawayof
packagingsomethingthatisproducedcontinuously.Theendproductissilly,itisapackageofaviscouswhitesubstancethatyousuck
outofan8inchtube.Butinordertogetthegranttomaketheunderlyingtechnologypossible,thereneededtobeamarketable
product.Gogurtisthisproduct.TherealreasonthatthistechnologywasneededwassothattheUSmilitarycouldmakecrabpeople.
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[] SOwED undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yogurt+sugar(ormaybeHFCS)
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[] sarcasm_included undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icouldgoforsomegurt
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[] marz0629 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GotmecravingaGurtrightnow
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[] Slavr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didtheyfindthoughtsinourbutts?IknewIshouldhavereadthatbook...
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[] Arsenal1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didwehaveamobilityproblemwithyogurtbefore?WouldsomeonecallyouonaFridaynightandsay,'Hey,doyouwanttogoseea
movie?'
'No,Ijustopenedupayogurt...I'minforthenight.Notevenlater,it'sthekindwithfruitonthebottom.'
EllenDegeneres
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[] Ophidios undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alldogsareboysandallcatsaregirls.
Haveyoueverseenacatpenis?
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[] hatessw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GogurthiresPRpeopletomakepeoplethinkit'syogurtandnotjustamixofliquiddiabetes(~16%sugars)andbonesoup.
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[] ughalready undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gogurtisyogurtthatdoesn'thavetofitthesameFDArequirementsasregularyogurt.
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[] anormalgeek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Greekyogurtisjustslightlyspoiledyogurt.
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[] wde4au undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youshutyourdirtymouth.
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TheOscarMayerP3portableproteinpacksarejustLunchablesrepurposedforadults.
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[] quantumshenanigans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Itisnot"just"yogurt.It'syogurt...onthego.
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[] cressida25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yousitonathroneoflies!
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[] puppykinghenrik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisridiculous.Ifit'sjustyogurtthenhowcanIeatitonthego?Checkmate.
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[] AshleyDawn71810 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveitistoo.Butdon'ttellmykidsthat.)
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[] oree94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ShutupTroy
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[] steveryans2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getthefuckouttahere
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[] Jokkerb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WTF,Seriously?Thewholetime!?
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[] csun723 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getthefuckoutofhere....
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Occam'sRazor.
Inamcdonaldsdrivethrough:
Me:"happymeal"Them:"girlorboytoy?"Me:"Yesyouare"Them:"Jogurtorappleslices"Me:"Wha?"Them"Jogurtorappleslices"
Me:"Isthatatypeoftoy?"Them:"cccccrffchsssphsssirpftowindow2"Me:(Ihopetheygotmyorder)
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[] accionerdfighter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Troy?
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[] zenistthrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbetyoureadthatontheWhyKaiPadaiuh
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[] myotherotherusername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MannowIcouldreallygofora'gurt
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[] lout_zoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,thereisdefinitelyabunchofothercrapinthere.
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[] i_am_thoms_meme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
damn,icouldreallygoforagurtrightaboutnow
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[] Merkinempire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YogurtisGogurttostay.
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[] noscope360gokuswag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sajokeintheresomewhere.
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[] timstinytiger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YogurtisjustGogurtinacup.
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[] Uses_Comma_Wrong undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lovemesomegurtthough
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[] Schnorcheln undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sayitain'tso
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[] theboss6969 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YogurtisGogurtbuttostay.
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[] renernavilez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'syogurtonthego,bro.
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[] PWNtimeJamboree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itis.anditdrivesmecrazythatIcantfindGogurtinsomethingotherthanatube.Ilikeyogurtthatdoesn'thavefruitchunks.Itneedsto
besmooth.sowhyisitsohardtomakea6ozcupofsmooth,nopiecesoffruityogurtthatisn'tGreek?
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[] cyborg_127 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
We'reinluckinNewZealand,gotacoupleofbrandsthatoffersmoothyoghurt.
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IneverthoughtIwouldhaveareasontosay"fuckyou"toNZ,but....fuckyou,NZ.
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[] Exodia101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsTrixyogurtstillaround?
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yeahbutitssmallerservingsizesandmoreexpensivethannormalyogurtbecauseoflicensing.justgivemeYoplaityogurt
withgogurtconsistency.Iwouldbuyitbythecase.
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[] shin_zantesu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthegogurtalsocursed?
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[] Disgruntled__Goat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,butyougetyourchoiceoftoppings!
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[] shin_zantesu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,that'sgood!
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[] jimbojones230 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alldogsareboysandallcatsaregirls.
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[] Herdthegnus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsolionsareboys,tigersaregirls.Duh.
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[] butterflyp00n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,haveyoueverseenacatpenis??
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[] AtlanticSailor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Urgh...ihaveaforeignfriendthatthinksthisway.Ithinkmycathasstarteddoubtinghe'sgender.
It'sahe..plz..
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[] truegamer1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snowaytodisprovethis.Haveyoueverseenacatpenis?
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[] ethan26 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ijustgoogled"catpenis"anditturnsoutthey'respikey
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[] Nolan213 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Googledcatpeniscoupleweeksago,wtfreddit...
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[] jkrushal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wenttoanothertabtoseeifthisistrue.Typedinthewrongbox.Nowmyamazonrecommendationsareweird.
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[] keithel_berman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yousillygirl,thisisscience!Andscienceisnotpretty!
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[] nobody_smart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mind=blown.
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[] andthendirksaid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Blasphemy!
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[] candylumps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,Idon'tseetheconnection.
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[] Jeremy252 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tyouever,everfuckingsaythatagain.
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[] YouDontMeanLITERALLY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YOUSHUTYOURWHOREMOUTH!
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[] GuyOfEvil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenhowcanItakeitonthego?Idioit
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[] H814Me undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ProfessorProfessorsonisactuallyProfessorWoolley.
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[] fists_of_curry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OnarelatednoteProfessorEmerituswasneveraprofessor
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[] Count_Critic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fromthelipsofaghostintheshadowofaunicorn'sdream.
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[] SmoSays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DUNdundunnnnnnnnnnn...
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[] sixfingerdiscount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldhavegottenawaywithittooofitwasn'tforyoumeddlingkids!
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[] SeansGodly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Blasphemy!
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[] Esb5415 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isatinhisclass"Learning!"Itchecksout.
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[] 93ericvon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Studyology"and"Class101"werealsodefinitelyworthit.
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[] RachelRTR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youguysarewastingyourtimeinhisclasses,I'vefound"Ladders"and"CanYouFryThat"tobetopnotchcourses
though.
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[] loki1887 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Togetintotherealmeatofeducationcheck"TheoreticalPhysEd."
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[] PolarX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"CanweSTOPwiththeGUNS?!"
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[] call_the_rocks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wouldthatthishoodiewereatimehoodie
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[] I_AM_MartyMcfly_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gtfoh,crazyaccusations.Youmusthaveballsofsteeltosaysomethinglikethat,you'reprobablyontheNSAwatchlistforthat.
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[] Ax_of_kindness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sthereasontherearewatchlists
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Fuckingmadman...
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Ithoughtitwasyogurtwithtonsofextrasugar.
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[] Eacheure undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gogurtisfruitflavoredpudding.
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[] PokeSmott undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Basicallyjustsugar
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[] spockofthewalk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamgoingtomakepuddinginatube.ShartGurt.
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[] captain__cabinets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisalsodelicious.
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[] robbyking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icouldreallygofora'gurtrightnow.
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[] EattheRudeandUgly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsoundsmuchmoredisgusting
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[] RelaxedCreeper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chocolatepuddingisjustchocolateflavoredyogurt?
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Chocolateflavoredyogurttastessohorrible.
ButifGogurtreleasedchocolateflavoredGogurt,it'dprobablytastelikechocolatepudding.
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DidsomeonesayPUDDING?
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[] lemonylol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thepuddingisalsocursed.
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[] PleasantSensation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
soismostyogurt
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[] trippleglaze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What.
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[] moethebartender undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouknowwhatelseIheard?AStarbucksFrappucinoisacoffeeflavoredmilkshake.
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[] Tmlboost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asapersonwhodoesn'tenjoythetasteofcoffee,I'mokaywiththis
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[] StillLetto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andachocolatemilkshakeissimplyachocolateflavoredcoffeefrap
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YouknowwhatelseIheard?Theytastegoodsoshutyourfuckinmouth.
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[] AyeBB8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisprettymuchwhattheyare.Justblendedwithiceandcream/milkinsteadoficecream.
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[] vgcellomusic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotamilkshakeifthereisn'ticecreaminit...
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[] crispychickentiddler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tcare.Mainline.
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[] MathTheUsername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsdelicious.
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[] BrerBunny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asanexstarbucksemployee,it'sabout90%ice.There'smaybeafewtablespoonsworthof"FrappucinoRoastcoffee"init.
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[] Yatoila undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldsay49%ice,49%air,and2%stuff.Theblenderbasicallyjustfluffstheiceup.
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[] PokeFire78 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Localshopsaresomuchbetter.
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[] Quajek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthereaspecialwaytoorderittoactuallymakeitworthit?
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[] Wraithpk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsacurrentStarbucksemployee,it's50%ice.
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What'sthebestbangforyourbuckaccordingtoyou?
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Forcaffeinecontent?
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Whichiswaterwhichismostofwhatwedrinkanyway.Howmuchofabeerdoyouthinkiswater?Afuckinlot.80
proofvodkaislike60%water.Peoplearemostlywatertoo.Everythingisfuckinwater.
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Yeah,coffeeismostlywatertoo,lol.
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[] GreyReanimator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovethedoublechocolatechipone.Whatelseisinthat?Ittasteslikechocolatechipsiceandwhippedcream.
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It'swholemilk,chocolatesauce,chocolatechips,andacremeflavoredsyrup.
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[] cellophanepain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sacompetitorcalledCaribouCoffeethatIworkforandIdidn'tknowourFrappesweresomuchbetter.It's
actuallymostlycoffeewebrewourselvesmixedwithacreamandsweetenermix,thenblendedwithice.
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[] selfiejon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIworkatasmallcoffeeshop,wecallthem'espressomilkshakes'ratherthanfrappesandthey'remuch
strongerandtastier.Wejustdoashotofespresso,ahomerecipeofsweetenedmilk,somewhitethickening
powerofsomekind,andice!
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[] ProffieThrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howisitthatthosecoupletablespoonsareenoughtomakemepoopuncontrollablythen?:(
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[] mvpkid22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewho'shadononeonce,there'snowayit's90%coffee.Thatthingisacaloriebomb.
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[] temporalarcheologist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youshoulddoanama
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[] AcidRose27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouwannaknow,youcanjustgoto/r/starbucks.
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[] saanctum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlyifyoudon'tknowhowtomakeit.Thescoopwillfillthesamecup,butwithalltheairinbetweenthecubes.
Milk,roast,andsyrupsfillthecupabouta1/3fullandtheiceblendstheiceintowater.
Thishasgotmethinkingaboutpeoples'aversiontoice.Milkismostlycomposedoftheexactsamething....
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[] iCameToLearnSomeCode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyeabutacupofcoffeeis99%wateranyway.
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[] Sonotmethen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beanjuice.Mmmm
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[] iamangrierthanyou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Unbelievable!Areyousomekindofconspiracynut??
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True,butthecaffeinecontentismuchhigherinacupofcoffee.There'smorecoffeeinit.Ihadsomany
customersorderacaramelfrappuccinobecausetheyneededa"caffeineboost"anditwouldjustkillme.
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[] tocilog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peopleorderfrappuccinoforthecaffeineandnotbecauseit'shotoutsideandyoudon'twannadrinkhot
coffee??
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[] The_wizard_of_Foz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionthefrappsarethemostpainintheassdrinktomake.Orapourover,ifI'mallbymyself
duringmorningrushandsomeoneasksforaventidecaf,wellfuuuuuuckkkkkk,nowI'mbehind.
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[] saanctum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wheredidyouworkthatyou'reallbyyourselfduringpeak?
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[] Demonix_Fox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PE/\K
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[] The_wizard_of_Foz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworkataStarbucksinsideagrocerystore.Weonlyhavefourpeoplethatworkhereandeven
witheveryoneworking3040hoursitcangetprettysparsesometimes.
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[] Lord_Rapunzel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworkedataTully'sinaFredMeyer,technicallywewereneversupposedtohavelessthantwo
peopleinthecoffeestandbutKrogerdoesn'tgiveashitaboutcontractsandwouldpoachour
hoursfordeli.Iopenedandclosedbymyselfprettyfrequently,itsucks.
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[] SilentG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UnlessIaskforextracoffeeinit.
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Extracoffeeisusuallyjustanextratwopumpsoffrapproasthonestly.You'renotgettingmuchmore.
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[] SilentG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UnlessIjustordercoffee.
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Thecoffeeisactuallyjustmicrowaved,coffeeflavoredfrappuccino.
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[] ThemDangVidyaGames undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButthenwhatdoIgetwhenIorderamicrowaved,coffeeflavoredfrappuccino?
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loadmorecomments
teaobviously
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[] TiwaKiwi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatmakesitsoundsodisgusting.
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[] ShafiChowdhury undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
so....yogurt?
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[] Baneling2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yoghurtissouredmilk.Puddingcanbeanything.
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[] desserter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sactuallyweirdlyinspirational.
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[] megachirops95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gogurtisflavoredassjuice
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[] mattmaster68 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wellthatescalatedquickly
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[] goodmorningfolks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tberidiculous.
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[] DeadSeriousNotReally undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheXboxOneDRMpolicywasaninsidejobbyValve.
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[] IntelWarrior undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11isaparttimejob.
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[] Sydmonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovekilledKurtCobain
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[] melector undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthem!
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[] ThaBFGisMe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cameoutoflurkingforthis:Ibelievethattherearemanycheapandnaturalcures,treatmentsandpreventativemeasuresforchronic
diseasesoutthere,I'mnotsayingthateverynewhealthtrendorsnakeoilisviable,noramisayingthatpharmacuticalsarecompletely
useless.Butthereisapossibilityofnatural,cheaporeffectivecuresthatarerepressedfrompublicknowledgeThinkaboutit:why
wouldanindustrythatmakesmoneyoffofpeoplebeingsickwanttocurepeople?Instead,allofthepillsandmedicationsthatare
pusheddownourthroatsonlytreatsymptomsofdiseases.Ifyoulistentodrugadstheyrarely/neversayitwillcurethedisease,only
treatit.Andthepubliceatsitupduetoourownlazinessanddesirefortheonepillfixall.Manyailmentscanbeprevented,treatedand
evencuredbychangesindiet,lifestyle,etc.Butthattakeseffort,andinsteadofputtingintheefforttotakecareofourselveswegladly
taketheeasywayandtakeapilltoforgetaboutitforawhile.Itissimilartoacommentfromanotherthreadthattalkedaboutillegal
druguse.Toparaphrase"nobodyshootsagramofheroineadaybecausetheyliketoparty,theysimplydoittofeellessbad"(my
apologiestotheoriginalauthorifImisquoted).
TLDRpharmaceuticalsdon'tcurediseases,onlytreatsymptomsandtheydosointentionally
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teatreeoil
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[] MAK3AWiiSH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisneedsmoreupvotes.
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Iftherewaseveradystopicindustryhellbentonpursingallpossibleprofitsattheexpenseofhumanlife/society,itsthepharmaceutical
industry.Hilariouslyironic.
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tbhthisisthefaultofcapitalism.inamericait'sliterallyillegaltodoanythingwhichknowinglynegativelyimpactsyourstockholders
soifacompanythatproducesatreatmentforadiseasediscoversacuretheyaremoreorlesslegallyobligatedtoignoreitunlessa
rivalcompanymanufacturesasimilarproduct
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Yes,theoneswehavebeentaughttolooktosolveourhealthissueshavetheleastvestedinterestindoingso.
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[] Freemsy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisconspiracybreaksdownwhentherearehealthservices100%fundedbythestate,sonotforprofitatall.Usuallyrunsat
aslightloss
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Yes,butalossofprofitforthestatedoesnotnecissarilymeanalossofprofitforthepharmaceuticalindustrywhose
medicationsareprescribedbythestatefundedservices.Governmentservicesareabletorunataslightloss,makingup
foritfromotherareasofthebudget,butabusinessisnot.
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[] Freemsy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AhhhafterrereadingtheoriginalconspiracyIunderstandwhattheyweregettingatnow!!It'sthesameforcharity,
ifanycharitycompletedtheirobjectivethentheywouldnolongerhaveapurposesoit'sintheirinteresttonot
completeit
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Essentiallyitisaprobleminherentincapitalism.Tomakemoney'helpingpeople'youmustmaintainthose
people'sneedforyourhelp.Ifyoulookintoit,innearlyanycharity,humanitarian,ornotforprofitgroup
thereissomebodywhoisinfactprofitingandthereforehasavestedinterestinmaintainingtheneedfor
theirgoodsorservices.
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Remember,cancerisgoodforbusiness
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[] egalroc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndtheonedrugtreatmentthatcancurehepatitisCisunaffordabletothosewhoneeditmost,thosemostlikelytospreadit.
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[] Funkybritishgamer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iwouldsaybuttheNSA'sprobablymonitoringthis.
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[] deusdragon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JacktheRipperisactuallyTheServantGirlAnnihilator.
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[] ghostlandwonderland undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyhiredsomeonetokillKurt
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[] a_posh_trophy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Which*.
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[] eekthesheek42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiracyisaloadedword.Thisuniverseandworldareverycomplexsouseyourimagination.
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[] twelveparsex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
welltherewasthisonetimePresidentRonaldReagansoldweaponstoterroristsinordertofundasecretwarinNicaragua,thenthere
wasthisothertimehedecidedtorescuesomestudentsthatdidn'tneedrescuingbyinvadingthesmallislandcountryofGrenada.
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[] Neandros undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatKurtCobainwasmurderedbysomeonewithordersfromCourtneyLove.
Theretirementletterthatsuddenlychangeshandwritingoncethesuicidetalkstartssoldme.
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[] Langbird undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovewasbehindthedeathofCobain.
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[] Hyperdrunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisone.
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okreadit.
Sothatsatanstuffdoesntseemlikelyatall.
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[] Zippy1avion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TommyWiseauisDBCooper.
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[] Rob_Lockster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StevieWonderisnotblind.
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You'regonnasaythisandnotpostthegif/video?
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[] MrCham3leon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatKurtCobainkilledhimself.
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[] pappajay2001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowI'mlatetothegamebuthereismine.
United93wasn'tbroughtdownbyciviliansinaheroiceffort.Itwasshotdowninordertopreventitfromreachingitstarget.
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[] farmerche undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iheardthisonnprorsomethinglikethatasakidinthecarwithmyfather.Itwasreallymatteroffactandsadnotconspiracytintedor
anything.
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Sometimesthelieisbetter.
Evenifyou'reright,itwastherightthingtodo,andIthinkallofuswouldunderstandthat.
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[] pappajay2001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagree.Thosepeopledeserveaheroicstoryregardlessofwhatreallyhappened.
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[] CardiffBorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Steviewonderisnotreallyblind
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Iwouldlovetoseethis,muchlikeStevielol
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[] thane017 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lizardpplbro.
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[] TheNeXTGUI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MarshallMathersissecretlyEminem.
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Beenlisteningtohimsince1998,onlyjustrealisedwhyhe'scalledEminem
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butwhoisslimshady?
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[] Seandelier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KenKaniff,obviously
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"Blowitoutyaass"
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Thinkhe'sthespittingonyouronionrings.
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[] jwaterworth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sthespitting
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Fucktopfive,bitch,I'mtopfourAndthatincludesBiggieandPac,whoreAndIgotanEvilTwinSowhothefuckdo
youthinkthatthirdandthatfourthspot'sfor?
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[] g0bst0p3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SaudiArabiaisisis!
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[] TurkishPlatypus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheaurorashootinginColorado.Iforgotwhere,butIdorememberreadingalotofarticlesthatsaidthegovernmentwasbehinditand
thattheyeitherusedsomesortofcontrollingdrugoradifferentperson.
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[] Hennigan100 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KurtCobainwasmurdered.Hiswife,CourtneyLove,wantedhimdead.Theyweregoingthroughadivorce.Shenowownsalltherights
tohismusic.There'salotofevidencesupportingme,butIdon'twanttotypeitallunlesspeoplenoticethis.
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[] ethnically_ambiguous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pleaseenlightenus
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[] BrosaParrks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliens.https://smediacacheak0.pinimg.com/236x/93/6c/61/936c61fbc34b66940907013e2cd64c82.jpg
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[] HavocNightrage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereareredicilousmadeupconspiracytheoriestomakeotherconspiracytheoristslookstupidanddiscreditthem.
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[] The_fro1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKistrappedinthemoon
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makessense
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[] xodiach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WAKEUPSHEEPLE!
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[] shinyman337 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"NicolasCageiscompletelyunawarethatheisanactor.Allheknowsisstrangemenwithcamerasfollowhimaroundwhilehegetsinto
crazysituationsandmoneyshowsuprandomlyinhisbankaccount."
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Idunno,moonstruckwasn'tthatcrazy,itwasagreatchickflick.
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[] rhymnocerous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisismyfavorite.
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Iwishthatwastrue.HeistheonetrueGod.
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[] MorbidlyMacabre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisoneofmyfavoritesubreddits.
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[] BearHawkBull_Down undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NeverbelievedinanyconspiracytheoriesbutIhavebeenwonderingwhatthetruthisbehindISISandsimilargroupswhoposea
threattotheUSare.Inhistorypropagandahasbeenakeytoolforcreatingamevsyoumentality.Itisonlyfairtoassumeuscitizens
havebeenvictimsofpropagandainonewayoranotherbyourgovernment.I'dliketoseethiswholescenariofromathirdpartyoutside
oftherealmofEarth.
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EveryoneknowsthatISISarealiens,dude.Youdon'tneedtoactmysticaboutit.
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[] YanDan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatpaid/unpaid'shills'willtrollpostssuchasthesetopromotethe'officialtheory'byparrotingthesameoldhackneyedCNN/BBC
narrative.
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[] TitanHawk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarwassupposedtobeaSithLord.
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Intelligenceagenciesusethesethreadsasasortofbarometertodeterminehowclosethegeneralpublicistorealizingthedeception.
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[] Luposetscientia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Thiswouldjustbelogicalthough,iftheconspiraciesarereal
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AuthorizingacodedoubleredonU/OhShitItsSam.Heappearstobeontous.Over.
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[] slappyjones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Please.I'mfromNorthernVAandhaveafewfriendswhoworkintheintelligencecommunity,andtrustme,noonetheregivesashit
whatpeopleonRedditthink.Sorrytoburstsomanybubbles.
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[] Falanin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well...iftheyaren't,theyreallyshouldbe.
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[] barryhover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdeception?Seriousquestion.
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[] whipfixed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Agree100%.It'salreadybeendiscoveredthattheyhavealargeteamofpeoplejusttopostinthreadsliketheseanddiscountthe
peoplewhoposttheories.
Sowhenyousee"Howmanyrollsoftinfoildidyouuseforthathat?Letmeguess,youlistentoAlexJones,too."...youcouldbetalking
toa3letteragency.
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[] karmarocket_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Intelligenceagenciesdon'tgiveafuckaboutthesethreads
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[] FilthyUsedThrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Intelligenceagenciesdon'tgiveafuckaboutthesethreads
Saysthegovernmentagent.
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[] corndog303 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Overtheyearswithallofthe"Whatsthecraziest/illegal/immoral/fuckedup/etcthingyouvedone?"askreddits,Ialwaysassumethat
someonesomewhereisbuildingprofiles.
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[] Ap0R1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andofcourse,shills...
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[] Egopoison undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditmayhavealotofusersbutitsstillamicroscopicportionofthepopulation.
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Lookatthecurrentnewstopicsandtellmetheideasofasmallbutvocalminorityaren'tnotonlyextremelypersuasivebutalsoa
largethreattothecurrentpowersthatbe.FromtheweedlegalizationtofuckinIsis,inthisdayandageanyonecangettheir
sentimentouttothepublic.Whenideaspickupenoughtractionyoucanbetyourbutttheygetmonitoredineverypubliccapacity.
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[] 3jt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouweren'tonalistbefore,youarenow.
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idoubtit.theycouldjustletasupercomputersiftthroughallthebuzzwordsfromallthespyingtheydo.
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Whywouldn'ttheythough?It'snottoofarfetchedtoassumetheyhavesomesortofscreeningprocessthatalertsthemtoreddit(or
otherpopularwebsitesfocusedoninteractionsbetweenU.S.citizens.)postscontainingwordsorphrasesdeemed"interesting"after
whichpointyouhavetoassumesomearesentthroughforactualhumaninterpretation.It'sstilltothisdaydifficulttoprograma
machinetonavigatetheintricaciesandimplicationsoftheenglishlanguage.I'msurewhenthesethreadsgettheemergencypass
throughtosomeoverweightguysittingatadeskinLangleythewholeofficemakesabigdealaboutfollowingthethreadandtalking
shitaboutthepeons.SoI'llsayitfreeandclearofsarcasm,blowmeagentnumberwhatever.Readallyouwant,addmeon
Facebook,cometomyhouseandfuckmysister.Youcan'tstopmefromhavinganopinion.
Sorry./rant.
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imnotsayingtheywouldntscanthisthread.theydefinitelydidandeverypostmadeonreddit.i'msayingtheywouldn'tcreate
thesethreadsbecausetheyhavewaybetterwaysofgatheringinfo.
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[] nicklozano37 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dhardlycallRedditthegeneralpublic.Mostlyjustabunchoffedoratipsters.
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Wellmaybenotthegeneralsubject,butcertainlyasamplesizeworthtesting.
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[] Blueeyesblondehair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfIworkedforagovernmentdomesticintelligenceagencyandhappeneduponthisthread,Iwouldprobablyforwardittomysuperiors.
Ataminimum,showmycolleaguesandsharelaughsaboutthewrongones,andmakebetsaboutiftheyguessedanytrueones.
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[] karmarocket_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noyouwouldn't
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Thenagain,Idon'tknowwhereyoulive,buthereintheU.S.of.Athingsareprettydiversified.I'msuretherewouldbealotofcross
contaminationwhereagencieswouldthinktheconspiraciesaboutotherdomesticoperationsfieldedbyseparategovernmentoffices
wouldseemlikesillyfiction.Iwonderifthere'salegitimateandirrefutabledatabaseofclandestineopskeptonflashdrivesinavault
somewherewayoutinthecountryknowonewouldeverexpect.Itwouldprobablycontaindetailedwriteupsonalotofthepostsin
thisthread.
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[] 1972Wyoming undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4026384,108.2801403,497m/data=!3m1!1e3
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https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4026384,108.2801403,497m/data=!3m1!1e3
Sowhat'sinthesouthwestrockyhillsofWyoming?I'veneverheardandconspiraciesaboutthatarea.Anyoneknow
whatthisisabout?
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[] sandwichtimemachine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Newconspiracy:DeleteduserisactuallyfromtheWyomingTourismBureau,tryingtodrumupbusinessthrough
mystery.
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Exactly.Likea"heylookatthemadscrawlingsofthepeasants"
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Psssttcarlinwasright
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[] quantumtraveller undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckingmetaaa.
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[] hateplow169 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisabouttheonlyoneherethatmakessense.
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[] metabolix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,Iagreehaha
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[] iamlogris undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haha.Over.
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[] Fragabond undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohshit!It's(uncle)Sam!Quick,post9/11demolitioncounterpointvideos!
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Jetfuelcan'tmeltdankmemes!
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[] Blueeyesblondehair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
dankmemescan'tmeltplankbeams^
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[] n0remack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ahahaha,thatscrazylikeanyonewouldactuallydothat
Gold Eagle, its badger...
They're onto us...
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[] Eurynom0s undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dogfort,comeindogfort.
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[] IceFire909 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Woofthatshellwasclose
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[] Polgb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hallothisisdog.
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Bark
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[] bigdavidp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
100%electriccarsweremadeandcompletedinthe1990s,butoilcompaniespaidbillionstohavethemdismantledandtheircreators
silenced.
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[] thedingogamer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Jetfuelcan'tmeltdankmemes
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[] poltergoose420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatjohncenacandank.jetmemes
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[] lyndonguitar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aliensbuiltorhelpbuiltthepyramids,andthattheyvisitedus(andinfluencedus)duringancienttimes.
Thosepersonifiedmultiplegodsthatappearedfromtheskieswithamazingpowers?canbespaceshipcrewthatcamefromspaceand
landedandhadamazingtechnology.Alotofreligionstalkaboutgodsthatcamefromtheskies(insomecases,evenspecifiedwhich
starstheycomefrom),withamazingpowersakatechnology,eventhebibletalksofangelsandmetalflyingchariots
AlsothepyramidswerekindaimpossiblefortheAncientegyptianstobuild,there'stonsofevidencethatsupportthis,lookitup.
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[] baciu14 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11wasaninsidejob
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[] SupremeMystique undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Athletesonsteroids
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[] pancake_lover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneykilledKurt
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[] jwaldo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NewCokewasintentionallymadebadasaredherringtodistractAmericansfromCocaCola'sswitchtohighfructosecornsyrup.Coke
rolledoutNewCokeknowingthatitwouldbehatedandthatitwouldsenddemandforCocaColathroughtheroof.OnceCoke"gave
in"andreintroducedClassicCoke(nowwithHFCS)peoplewouldbesogladtohavetheirnormalCokebacktheywouldn'tnoticeor
caretoomuchabouttheswitchtothelessexpensivebutlesstastysweetener.
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[] AskAnAtlantan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyothersoda(Pepsi,Sprite,DrPepper)madethesamechangewithoutanybigproduction.
Theydiditbymakingthechangegraduallyovertime,addingmoreHFCSandreducingtheamountofsugar.
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[] MyNameIsTheWaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mthefirstcommentonthis?Really?Thismakesmoresensethananythingelseonthisthread.
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[] VectorVictorious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IguessI'llbethatguywhopointsouta"conspiracy"istwoormorepeoplewhoagreetoengageinanillegalactivity.Thiswasn'tillegal
noratrueconspiracy.
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[] tresbizarre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cokeused100%HFCSbeforeNewCoke.
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[] powerfunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Preposterous.NewCokewasthegreatestcolaevermade.Itwastheperfectsodapeoplejustcan'thandlechange.
MostsodafountainCokedidn'tswitchbacktoCocaColaClassicuntilafter2000.ImissNewCokesomuch.
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[] RexQuincy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idkaboutthat.ThereisagooddocumentaryonCoke'stryingtointroduceDasaniintheUKbackinthe'00s.Theycompletelyfuckedit
up,andalotofwhyseemedtobearrogance.Asmuchastheyrunagoodcompany,theyalsohavealotoffuckupslol.
It'sareallyinterestingwatchthough,aboutbrandingbottledwater(somethingthatshouldbe10centsabottlegoesthattheysellfor
$2+).
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[] NorthsideB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichsweetenerwasusedbeforecornsyrup?Sugar?IfsoCokeandPepsiselliteveryyearduringpassoverinspecialbottles.
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[] BaconZombie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DidNewCokeevercomeoutanywhereexcepttheUS?
Ineverheardofitbeforetheinternetandwhydon'tuseHFCSintheEurope.
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TheymadenewCokeforyearsafter.I'mnotreallyarguingwithyouit'sjustmoreofafunfact.Itwasstilloutinthewildintothe2000s
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[] Plodahawk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sslurmalloveragain
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[] papayankeegolf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisyoursourceman?
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[] mellotronworker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ToquotesomeCokeCEOatthetime(denyingtheabovenotion)'we'renotthatsmart...andwe'renotthatdumb...'
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[] TBag_McDangle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HolyshitI'vebeensayingthisforyears.
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[] mussii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilikeyou:)AndIagreewithyou:)
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[] contrarian1970 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisfinallyoccurredtomeacoupleofyearsago.Itwasrisky,butoverthelast30yearspeoplealmostcertainlyguzzleddownmore
cocacolaclassicandlesspepsibecauseofthis.Iwouldevenspeculatethattheyspentmonthstryingtomake"newcoke"tasteas
similartopepsiastheycould.
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I'mreallycuriouswhatnewcoketasteslike.Anyoneherehadthechancetotryit?
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[] robotnudist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,whentheymadeDietCoketheycreatedanallnewrecipetoworkbetterwiththetasteofartificialsweeteners.Then,whenDiet
Cokewassopopular,theydecidedtotrythatrecipewithsugar/syrupandthatwasNewCoke.YoucanreadthisonWikipedia.
Andthat'salsowhythere'sCokeZero,that'stheclassicCokerecipewithnewartificialsweetenersthatmodifythetastemuchless.But
theykeepDietCokebecauseit'sstillsopopular.
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[] Chris_Saturn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButmanyCocaColabottlerswerealreadyusingHFCSbeforeNewCokecameround,someasmanyas5yearsbeforethe
introductionofNewCoke.Therestisplausible.
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[] BrazenNormalcy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tbelievethis,but...itactuallywouldhaveworked.TheykeptitoffthemarketjustlongenoughthatalltheoriginalCokes,evenif
someonestillhadone,wouldtastelikecananyway,sotherewasnowaytotocomparethetasteoforiginalCoketoCokeClassic.
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[] tifforr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,IthinktheyswitchedsothattheycouldofficiallytakethecocaineoutofCoke.AbigpartofCoke'sflavorprofileiscoca.Coke
isthebiggestimporterofdecocainizedcoaleafintotheU.S.PeopleusedtobeaddictedtoCoke...likeneeditfortheirmorningfix,if
youwill.AlotofpeoplewhodrankCokeprenewCokesaidthatittasteddifferent/notasgood/effectiveaftertheswitch.
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[] Quaytsar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Often,onReddit,IfeellikeI'mtheonlypersonwillingtoadmitthatIpreferHFCSCoketosugarCoke.ThefirsttimeIhadsugar
sweetenedCokeiswhenIwenttoMexico,anditjusttastedoff.TheytastesimilarenoughthatIdon'treallycarewhichoneIdrink,but
ifI'mforcedtochoose,HFCSCokecomesoutontop.
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[] corndog303 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisismewithgrassfedbeef.Iknowit'sbetter,butI'msousedtocornfedbeefthatgrassfedbeeftastesweird.Tooearthy.
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[] OriginallyYours undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nono,IjustmovedtoabordertownandsomecoworkerswantedmetotryMexicanvsAmericanCoke.Theyevensmellnoticeably
different,MexicanCokedidn'ttastegoodatall
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[] stilltryingtocare undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MuchliketheHostessconspiracy,whichstatesthattheyshutdowntheirbusinesswitheveryintentionofstartingitrightbackupagain
whenthefrenziedmasseshittheirpeaklunacy.
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[] wildmanofwongo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FromeverythingIheard,theHostessthingwas90%unionbusting.
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[] DMann420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellwhatelsewouldyoudo?There'sadifferencebetweenafilthyrichcompanychanginguptheirrecipetoreigniteinterestsinthe
oldone,andabrokeashellcompanyusingnostalgiatoreigniteprofits.
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Thisisthemostbelievableonehere,andit'spracticallyproven.
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[] shinslap undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ApparentlyEuropeanandAmericancoketastenoticeablydifferent
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[] SunkenLoki undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InNorwaywestillhavethe.originalrecipeIthink
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[] iorderedregular undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydo.IdrinkalotofCokehereathome(Ireland)buthadtostopforthefewmonthsIlivedintheUS.Itisn'treallyamystery
though,differentsaccharides(sugars)areusedandvaryinsweetness.Fructose,asopposedtosucrose,issweeter.
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IcanvouchforU.S.andMexican(i.e.realsugar)Coketastingdifferent.It'shardtodescribe,butit'slikethedifferencebetween
whitesugarandbrownsugarthey'rebothsugary,buttherealsugarCokehasalessoverpoweringsweetness.
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[] 5k3k73k undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MexicanCokecontainsHFCS,nocanesugar,justlikeAmericanCoke.
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[] Tarantio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyoudonethetriangletest?
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Haveafriendfillthreecups,twobeingthesamekindofcoke,andthethirdbeingtheotherkind.Thentastetesttoseeifyou
cantellwhichoneisdifferent.
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WeactuallydidproperdoubleblindtestingwithsomesommeliersandwinemakersthatincludedPepsiandCoke,anda
fewwinesthateveryonewasveryfamiliarwith.(Europe,thesecolasweremadewithwhitesugaratthetime,notsure
whetherthatchanged.)
Averygoodwaytodeterminewhowasjustbullshitting,andwhoreallyhadthenoseforthestuff.Itwasaverysmall
sampleofpeople,butallofthemusedtheirsenseofsmellforwork.Allbutonecouldtellthetwocolasapartbyjust
smelling,andallbytasting.Westartedtomesswiththemandcheckedwhethertheycouldtellthedifferencebetween
PETandbottledversionsofthesame,andthereweretwoofthemwhocoulddoiteveryfuckingtime.Iwastruly
impressed.Coincidentally,theseweretheguysthatcouldmostreliablytellvintagesofthesamewineapart.Thelatteris
asurprisinglydifficulttask,itturnedout.
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[] DocWattz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isecondthis.Moresubtleflavors,bettermouthflavor.
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[] ayushmaansingh99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"We'renotthatdumb,andwe'renotthatsmart"
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[] rainzer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butlesstastysweetener.
Exceptnoonehasbeenabletodefinitivelyproveusingthefoodindustry'stasteteststandard(thetriangletest)thatsugarsweetened
coketastesbetterthanregularcoke.
ScienceJon:MexicanCokevsRegularCoke
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[] rp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sabigdifferencebetweensippingatablespoonofadrinkanddrinkingawholecan.Idon'tthinkIhaveagoodideaofwhatI
wantinadrinkbytakingjustasip.Withalcohol,IknowthatI'llthinkthatthesweetestdrinkisbestifItakeasinglesip,whichisnot
howIactuallyprefermybeer.
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[] pelham124 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aussiehere.Wehaveregularcanesugarinourcoke,Ihavebeentothestatesquiteafewtimes,andIdefinitelycantastethe
difference,IcantstandtheHFCScoke.
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andIdefinitelycantastethedifference,IcantstandtheHFCScoke.
Ireplythesamewaytoeveryonewhobelievestheycantelladifference.
Ifyoubelieveyouareabletotelladifference,acceptthesimplepremiseandrecordyourselfsuccessfullycompletingafullset
ofdoubleblindtriangletastetests(6ordercombinations).
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[] pelham124 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwouldifIcouldgetthatHFCSshitoverhere.Imgoingbacktothestatesinafewmonths,I'llgiveitagothen.
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[] __________10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Swedehere.Iconcur.
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[] EnsoZero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theproblemwiththesetestingmethodsisthatthepeopletestingthepopweremorethanlikelymorefamiliarandnormalizedwith
HFCSpopcomparedtopuresugarpop,whichdoestakeaperiodofadjustment.Theproperwaytohavedonethestudywouldbe
tohaveaseparategroupthatdranknothingbutpuresugarpopforamonthortwoleadinguptothetasteteststoseeifthathadan
effectonpreference.
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Theproperway
Thereasonthetriangletestbythefoodindustryisusuallytodetermineifthereisadifferencebetweenrecipechanges(most
likelytosavemoney)withouttheneedto,asyouassert,havepeoplebecome"adjusted"tothenewrecipe.
Ifyourequireadjustmenttobeabletoclaimadifference,thereisnosignificantdifferenceandtheonlydifferencecomesfrom
thepsychologicaleffectofseeingthatyouaredrinkingfromabottleofMexicanCoke.Thiseffecthasbeentestedonpeople's
perceptiononhowtheytasteorangejuice.
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Evenwiththetriangletesttheywerestillusingcan/plasticbottleCokevsglassbottleCokewhichregardlessofrecipe
willcreatedifferentresults.ThosewereadditionalvariablesoutsideofjustHFCSandformulation,makingtheresults
lessreliablethanifitwereamorecontrolledsurvey.ForthepurposesofsugarvsHFCStheyshouldhaveusedthe
ThrowbackPepsivariantsastheycomeincansandplasticbottlesunliketheMexicanCoke,andtheyareguaranteed
nottohaveHFCSwhichleadstomynextpoint...
ThereissomespeculationthatMexicanCokedoesnotcontain100%sugarandmaycontainsomeamountofblending
withHFCS,whichIdidn'trealize(I'veneverhadit,butIhavehadothercanesugarpopinthepast).Ifthatisthecase,
theseresultsmeanlittletonothingforthemeritsordemeritsofsugarversusHFCS.
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ThereissomespeculationthatMexicanCokedoesnotcontain100%sugarandmaycontainsomeamountof
blendingwithHFCS,
Itdoesn't.Itispeoplewhonevertookchemistryfarenoughtogettoacidhydrolysistorealizethatifyouput
sucroseinacid,youwouldendupwithfructoseandglucosebecause...surprise,sodaisanacid.
Whichiswhythefirstpointofbottle,can,plasticbottleispointlessbecauseallthepeoplesayingtheycantaste
thedifferencebetweensugar(sucrose)sweetenedsodaversusfructosesweetenedsodaareliarsunlessevery
singlepersonwasdoingthetestattheimmediatesecondthesodawasmixedandsucrosedidn'tbreakdowninto
fructosesinceotherwise,everysugarsodawasfructoseanyway.
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Youdoknowthatittakesyearsforthatprocesstohappeninthecarbonicacidpresentinpop,right?
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Youdoknowthatittakesyearsforthatprocesstohappeninthecarbonicacidpresentinpop,
right?
Youdoknowthatmostsodasaremoreacidicthancarbonicacidright?
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Pineapples,ahighsourceofsucrose,containcitricacidwhichismoreacidicthanany
commerciallyavailablepopvariety.Limesalsocontainsucrose(likeallplants)andhaveaphof
below2.0.
Ittakesaverystrongacidtoquicklybreakdownsucroseinthemanneryouaresuggesting.
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[] foamyfrog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExceptI'dyou'veeverhadMexicanCokethere'saveryobviousdifferenceintaste
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[] cecilomardesign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sexactlywhataCocaColaconspiratorwouldsay!
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[] Rockstaru undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CocaColaCoconspirator,youmean!
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[] cecilomardesign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknow...Ittookmeawhiletodecidehowtowriteit...MostlybecauseIwassleepy...Thankyouforcorrectingme.
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[] Statistical_Insanity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sashillforBigSoda.
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That'ssilly.IthinkCoketrickedallofyoupeopletopaythepremiumfortheMexicanCokebottlesforlessCokeforthesame
thingsinceyoucanfindthatstuffeverywherenow!
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[] BlueJem6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichiswhywe'llmarketitasNewSlurm.Then,wheneveryonehatesit,we'llbringbackSlurmClassicandmakebillions!
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[] Calamitosity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!~!!!!
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[] souray44angus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheonlythingIcouldthinkof.
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[] phalanx2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Simpsonsdidittoowithnewduff(beer).IbelievebothSimpsonsandfuturamawerereferencingcoke
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[] TenTonsOfAssAndBelly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WibblewhimWhamWozzle!!
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[] Personalityprototype undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
brutal
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[] lcav undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Newcokewasperceivedastastingbetterinpreliminarymarkettestingthough,itwasexpectedtoperformwell.Itwasjustareallybig
fuckupbyCokefornotunderstandingtheattachmentpeoplehadtotheoriginalbrand.
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[] mistakableidentity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkithadsomethingtodowiththefactthatnewcoketastedbetterinsmallerquantities(whichishowthetestwasperformed)
andsoitdidnttakeintoaccountthatwhenpeopledranktheentirecanitwasactuallyworse.
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[] Thursamaday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,itwasablindtastetestvs.Pepsi,whichwasalotsweeter.Ittastedbetterwhenourwasasmallsip.Ithinkthatthiswas
inaMalcomGladwellbook,theTippingPoint.
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[] messonamission undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FromtheWikipediaarticleaboutNewCoke
Thecompanyhotline,1800GETCOKE,receivedover1,500callsadaycomparedtoaround400beforethechange.Coke
hiredapsychiatristtolisteninoncallsandtoldexecutivessomepeoplesoundedasiftheywerediscussingthedeathofafamily
member
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[] Mastr_Blastr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icalledthatbackthenwhenthatfiascowashappeningandgavemyopinion.ThinkIwas12orso.Theysaidthanks,tookmy
nameandaddressandsentmesomeCokestickers.
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[] TheDovvahkiin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1800GETCOKEsoundslikeacocainfixhotline
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1800GETCOCKontheotherhand...
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[] squintysmiles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanks.Noweveryoneknowsmynumber...
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sozbruh
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[] sonargasm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atollfreenumberfororderingcocaine?Speedialed
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[] DMann420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sawesome.
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[] shadowpsyc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenewdietPepsiisalsoconfirmingthis.Old(aspartamebased)dietPepsitastedhorrible,butpeoplemissit.
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[] DerNeander undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whendidtheychangeit?Iabsolutyhatedthatshit.Diesittasteanybetternow?
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[] TheAmishChicken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didntknowtheychangedit,butdranksomedietpepsirecentlyandthoughtitwasprettygood,thenagain,ithinktabisa
greatsoda
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[] sonargasm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veeverheardoftabbeforetoday
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Ifyouwantatab,you'regonnahavetoordersomething.
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[] Avoiceofr3ason undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howmanycatsdoyouhaveandareyoua80yearoldwomannamedEthel?
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2catsinmyhouse,16yearoldmale.Dietsodaisshittomeusually,butidrinkitbecausemymomalwaydrinks
dietcokeanddrpeppersoitsinthehouse.Ivestartedtolikeitthoughthemoreidrinkit.Tabisjustgoodtome
though,imtheonewhobringsthatintothehouse,itsfuckinggreatidontseehow99%ofpeopleiknowsayits
likelaxativesformakingyouthrowupitsthatbad
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AmItheonlypersonthatprefersHFCSCocaColatocanesugarCocaCola?
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[] wileyrocketcentaur1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethistoo.I'veheardthatNewCokewasjusttheDietCokeformulawithHFCSinsteadofnutrasweet.
IalsoheardthatCokeZerowastheClassicCokerecipewithartificialsweetenerinsteadofHFCS.
Imighthaveitallmixedup,butthatmoveawayfromsugarwasabigdealanditwouldmakesensethatCokewouldhaveresortedto
subterfugetoachievethechange.TheyhadspentyearsdominatingtheColamarket.Therewasnoreasontochangeinthemanner
theydid.
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[] Reaca15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uh,I'mprettysureNewCokewasjustoneofForrestGump'smistakes.
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[] ultimatefribble undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yougotchernewcoke,yougotcheroldcoke,yougotcherdietcoke,yougotcherzerocoke...
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isn'tclassiccokesoldwithcane(real)sugar?
idki'mincaliforniaandtheglassbottlesofcokearetheonesthatsay"hechoinmexico"onthemandhavecanesugarasopposedto
HFCS(whichallthecans/plasticbottleshave),butithinktheyarestillbottledinatlanta
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MexicanCokeusesHFCSnotcanesugar.
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[] g33k5t4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CokeClassicwaswhattheycalledtheHFCS"returnoforiginalcoke"todifferentiateitfromNewCokeandCokeII,whichwereboth
soldduringthattime.Aftertheydroppedbothofthesemonstrosities,theydroppedthe"classic"partofthename,returningtojust
callingitCoke.
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yeahiwasjustlookingintoit,themexicancokeiscalledmexicancokeormexicokeclassiccokeisjustarebrandingofcoke
asiseeit
alsoithinkiwasmistakenaboutthebottlinginatlantaaswell(whichithinkcomesfromthefactthatallamericancokeis
bottledthere,alsoafriendfromtheretoldmeliterallyeverything,likeinschoolsandsuchissponsoredbycocacolaandits
almostaweirdpropagandathingbuttheyalsohavepepsisponsoredschooleventstocounteractitlol)andtheatlantafactory
bottlesamericancoke(withHFCS)inglassbottles(aswellasprovidingplasticandcans,ofcourse),soi'msureatonepointi
heldacokebottle(notfrommexico)thatsaidbottledinatlanta,andatanothertimeheldamexicancokebottle(thatsays
hechoenmexico)andconfusedthetwotimesthinkingthebottleswerethesame
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MightdependonwhereintheUSyou'refrom,butlookfor2literswiththeyellowtop.They'rekosherforpassoverandusecane
sugar
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ooohinterestingineverknewaboutthekosherones,i'vealwaysfeltthedifferenceintastewasduetotheHFCS/sugar
variationbutI'msuresomepeopleatleastthinkthattheglasshassomeeffecti'dbecurioustotrythekosherplasticbottled
versionandseehowittastesinrank
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AsIunderstandit,mostCokemadefornonU.S.markets(includingMexico)stillusecanesugar,alongwithKosherapprovedU.S.
coke.
I'malsoinCAandIalwaysgofortheMexicanCoke.ItmakesamuchbetterCubaLibrethantheHFCSstuff.
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[] Puchuchoni undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InArgentinaweuseHFCStoo.
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yeahibelievethat'sthetruthaswell,USswitchedtoHFCSinprettymucheverythingawhileagoasitsmuchcheaper(and
alsobecausemiddleamericagrowsalotofcorn,sothecornlobbyisstronghere)
idk,mypersonalreasonsforbeingsuperafraidoffructosecomefromthislabiusedtoworkin.Itwasalabthatdid
neuropsychresearchonlikecocaine/heroinaddictionbutoneofthereallystrongeffectsthatwereshownduringmytime
therewashavingtodowithfructose(theyweretryingtoshowthatfructosewasamoderatorforthedopaminecycle,as
insulinhelpedtransportthedopaibelieve),basicallyratsgivenwater,fructosewater,andfoodtochoosefromwouldbecome
remarkablyaddictedtothefructoseandgetalltheircaloriesfromitinsteadoffromregularfood(butgetmorefatbecauseit
hasmoresugarthanfoodorwater)andthelargertakehome(astheywereusedincocainestudiesaftergrowingupon
variationsofthosediets)wasthattheoneswhogrewupwithlotsoffructoseweremuchmoresusceptibletoaddiction
asaformeraddictitmakesmeveryafraidtosticktoanythingwithfructoseandsoi'mverywearyofthatstuffnowadays,
thoughistillbelievenothingbeatsfreewillwhentryingtokickahabit,butfructoseaddictionismuchmorestrongthansugar
addictionandsugaraddictioncanalreadybeverystronginevergrewupwithsodaaroundthehouseandfeellikeifihave
kidsi'lltrytoraisetheminasimilarmanner(thoughilovetheshitoutofitandeventhoughirarelyindulgeatrestaurants
wheni'matadecentplaceandwantsomesugarandseetheyhaveglassbottledcokeorspriteonthemenuideforderit(i
don'tdrinkanymore))
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[] Sweetwill62 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallynocostwasn'tthemainreasontheFDAwouldn'tletthemusecanesugaranymoreexceptinClevelandohio,
duetorestrictionsonhowcleanthewaterhadtobetousecanesugar,ithastobecleanerinordertousecanesugar
thanHFCS.
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hmminteresting,butthendoesn'tthatmeanthatintheUSthepriceofusingHFCSisartificiallylowerthanusing
sugar(withoutgovernmentregulation)?andwouldn'tthisbeaneffectofthatlobby?
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[] edsbf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ClassicCokeisalsowhat'ssoldinthecanstoo.The"Mexicancoke",asit'sbeencolloquiallynamed,usestherealsugar.Maybe
anotherwingtotheconspiracyisthatCokesellsthe"Mexicancoke"intheUSforareason:tousetheglassbottlestogivethe
impressionofahighervalue,plususingrealsugar,sellingtheproductatahigherpricethantheHFCStocoaxpeoplewhowant
realsugarintheirsodatobuythemarkedupsinglebottlesof"MexicanCoke."
Ididn'tsayitwasagoodconspiracy.
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MexicanCokeusesHFCSnotcanesugar.
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Theyhaveamericancokeinglassbottlesaswellthough
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[] PM_ME_UR_JUNCTIONS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,"Mexican"coke,thatisCocaColamadeinplantsinMexico,alsocontainHFCS.ThelabelinglawsinMexicojust
doesn'tdifferentiatesugarfromHFCS.Sotheycanprint"sugar"asthemainsweeteneringredient,butstilluseHFCS.
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[] AskAnAtlantan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThebottlesarerelabeledwithUScompliantnutritionandingredientlabels(otherwise,itwouldbeillegaltosellthem
here.)
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[] antixss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarewrong
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[] jesusofmango undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source?
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[] Kai_Daigoji undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,becauseMexicanCokesoldintheUSsays"madewithcanesugar".
TherearetwoCokerecipesbottledinMexicocanesugarforUSconsumption,andHFCSfordomesticconsumption.
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Nope.
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[] thatgeekinit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisnoreasontouseHFCSoutsidetheU.S.becauseit'soursugartariffsandminimumpricethatmakehfcs
cheaper(protectionismforUSSugarandafewsmallercompanies)
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yeahthisiswhyidon'treallybelieve/u/PM_ME_UR_JUNCTIONS,butihaveasinkingfeelingimayjustbe
stubbornmysentimentsexactlyreflectwhat/u/edsbfsaid
ithoughtiwassomekindofenlightenedconsumerbutnowifeelsocheated:(((((
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Man,Ididn'tmeantoruinyourcakeday.:(I'llputyoubackintheMatrix,makeyouabigshot,aHollywood
actoreven!
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[] nragano undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ivebeentellingpeoplethatmexicancokedoesntusepurecanesugarforyearsnoonebelievedme,ifcane
sugariswhatyouareafterdontlookfor"madewithrealsugar"onthebottlelookforCANEsugarifitdoesnt
saycaneidbetmorethanadollarthatitsusingsomehocuspocusbullshitandnotthatsweetsweetcane
sugargoodness,nowwhatyoureallywantispepsinaturalorwhateveritscocacolaequivalentis,theysold
itforamonthortwointhechicagolandarea5or6yearsago...onceyoutasteitmadewithrealcanesugar
youwillbeabletoimposterssugarsanytime
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BigdifferenceinusingHFCStosugar,canesugar,realsugarwhateveryouwanttocallit.You'rehalf
rightandallwrong.
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[] Dockirby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irememberwhentheyrolledoutallthose"CaneSugar"Pepsibrandsodas,Ihonestlydidn'tlikethe
flavorcomparedtotheHFCSversions.
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hahayescanesugarisbomb,that'swhatiusuallylookforjustHFCSisahugeturnoffandigenerally
evenpreferwatertoit(ireallydislikethetasteofwater)
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Andonyourcakeday,too.
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yeahhopefullythisisorganickoshercakeandnotsomefakeglutenfreegmoredditconspiracyrunby
thekochs
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Koch.....Coke.....CONSPIRACY.
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[] rogerwilco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsosodacomesinglassbecausemexicansreturnthebottleforthe10centdeposit
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MYLIFEISALIE.
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[] altmehere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
idki'mincaliforniaandtheglassbottlesofcokearetheonesthatsay"hechoinmexico"onthemandhavecanesugaras
opposedtoHFCS(whichallthecans/plasticbottleshave),butithinktheyarestillbottledinatlanta
NoperWikipedia,itismadeandbottledinMexico.
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[] Heyitsian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenwhattheheckdoeshechomean?
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[] altmehere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"HechoenMexico"isjustmadeinMexico.
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whoa!
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[] czechmeight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NewCokenearlybankruptedCocaCola.ItwastheirreactiontoPepsiuppingtheirgameandAFAIKtheyeitheronlyaskedCoca
ColaemployeestotastetestNewCokeortheyonlycomparedittoPepsi.Eitherwayit'staughtasoneofthemajorfuckupsofthe
businessworld.
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[] serael undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneofmymarketingprofswasonthatteamfornewcoke.Sheexplaineditastheythoroughlytesteditwiththepublicagainst
classicandpepsiandscoredverywellintastetests.Attheendofthedaytheysummeditupassamplescanneverfully
predictthepopulationandthereisaselectionbiasforpeoplewhoparticipateinfocusgroupsvsgeneralpopulation.Basically
allindicatorsweretherepeopleloveditbutwhenitwentpublicpeopleweren'tsoldanditsnowballedintooutrightbacklash.
Whileitcouldbearguedshecouldbejusttryingtosavefacetostudentsafterthefact,thehivemindispowerfulandchaotic.
Lookattwinkies.TherewerePROTESTStobringitbackbythemobyethosteswentunderbecausenobodyboughtthecrap.
Ifthosepeoplewanteditsobadhowcomethecompanywashemmoragingsalesrevenuestilbankruptcy?Nostalgiatook
overandpeoplewantedtwinkiesagainwhentheysawitgoingaway.Possibleitwasasimilarreactiontonewcoke,they
wantedthenostalgiaofclassic.
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[] castlite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
theywantedthenostalgia
I'moldenoughtoremembertheswaptonewCokeverywell.MyfamilyboughtanewCoke,oldCokeandaPepsito
tastetestforourselvesafterallthehullabaloo,andhadnovestedinterestoremotionalattachmenteitherway(notreally
sodadrinkers).NewCokewasmostdefinitelytheworstofthe3.TastedverymuchofchemicalsIIRC.
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[] segagaga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheproblemwithHostessTwinkiesthough,istheyareTHEmostartificialtastingsyntheticshityoucanbuy,andinthis
highhealthfoods,highprotein,wholefoodsmarkettrend,Twinkiesarenotonmosthealthypeople'sconsumption
radar.Tryingoneagainfornostalgiaisn'tasolidbasisforbusiness.
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[] rottenseed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldyoureplacetheflagshipproductofyourcompanyinsteadjustaddingtoit?Soundsriskyandfoolish.
Furthermorewhywouldyoupullthenewlineratherthanjustbringingbacktheoldoneuponthepeople'srequest?It's
forthesereasonIthinktheoriginalconspiracyisstillpossible.
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Productdiversificationissuperexpensive.There'snotmuchtogainfromhavingtwoverysimilarproductsona
storeshelf,you'rejustcompetingwithyourself.
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Isubmittoyouasevidence:CokeZerovsDietCoke.
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CokeZeroisananswertomarketsegmentation.CokeZerodoesn'tcompetewithDietCoke,theyare
differentproductsfordifferentgroupsofpeople.
Therearealsotwentyyearsbetweennewcokeandcokezeroandcostofdiversificationhave
lowered.
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[] rune5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DietCokewastakenoverbythegaymencommunity.Walkingaroundwithonebecameasubtleand
discreetwayoflettingothergaysknowonessexualorientation.Heterosexualmenthereforeavoided
Diet,soZerohadtobecreated.Obviously,removingoneofthetwoatthispointwouldbefoolish
sinceitwouldpisslotsofpeopleoff,justlikeNewCokedid.
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Themarketinghasmuchmoretodowithmen(cokezero)andwomen(dietcoke)Ithink.
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[] fskoti undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIlluminatiisabsolutelyreal.
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[] patio87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomethingisfishywiththeKennedyassassination.
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[] wolfzelle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasadealbetweentheSaudisandBush/BigCorp/Gascompanies..
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[] betawavebabe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Childactorsgrowuptobeshort(ElijahWood,DanielRadcliffe,MichaelJFox,GaryColeman,JoshHutcherson..etc)becausethey
weregivenhormonestostunttheirgrowthduringlongperiodsoffilming.
..orIjustmadethatup.Makessensetome.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article3001454/WhytodaysstarsshortActorsstrappinghunksmuscularspecimensmodern
leadingmanlikelyrequiredbursttearssaysQUENTINLETTS.html
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thankshahai'mgladi'mnottheonlyonewhohasnoticedthis!
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[] msiri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itcouldalsobebecauseshorterkidscanplayyoungercharacterswhentheactorsaremoremature.Theyalsohadaneasiertime
makingitinhollywoodbecausetheywerealreadyknownnamesaskids,whereasotheraspiringactorsoftheirstaturearelesslikelyto
makeitasadultsbecausetheyareconsideredtooshortforleadingmanroles.
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Theirdicksaretotallyhugeliketoddlerarmstho
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[] g0kartmozart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
McCaulayCulkin
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[] munkysnuflz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...huh.Thisisagoodone.
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[] Dabuscus214 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehearditsactuallythatshorterpeopletendtobesuccessfulactorsbecausethebodyproportionsofshorterpeoplelookbetteron
screenthantalllankypeople
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Bingo,ifyou'reoverfivetenyou'reacharacteractor.MostfemalesinHollywoodare5'to5'4''Mostleadingmenare5'4''to5'8''
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[] Thebraz88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TomCruiseislike5'4''
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[] mangoman13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisprobablytheanswer.
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[] fredericofellini undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wow.whatledyoutothisinformation?justobservation?
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Justanobservation..IalwaysthinkaboutitwhenIwatchPotter,Hungergames,Wilfred..anything..
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[] thwnd04 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SethGreen
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HayleyJoelOsmont,FredSavage,thelistgoesonandon
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[] Kblaze12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FredSavageisnotshort.
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ohdamn,you'reright.hisimdbsays5'10...ialwaysjustpicturedhimaseternallytiny
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[] ferociousPAWS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'ddefinitelybelievethatexceptforGaryColeman.Hewasextremelyshortevenasachildbecauseofhiskidneydiseaseandthe
medicationsusedtotreatit
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It'scrazy,butitmakessomesense.Icanseeascenariowheremanagersandpublicists(andtheparents)stuntthegrowthofchild
starstokeepthemlookingchildlikeforalongertime,sincetheymakemoney.Somechildactorsstoppedbeingsuccessfulafterthey
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grewup,likeMacaulayCulkinandHaleyJoelOsmont,oncetheylosttheircuteness.
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DannyBonaduce
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[] HandbagofRainbows undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DanRadcliffeisn'treallyshortthough.
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Dudeistiny.Shorterpeoplewithlargefacesjustlookbetteroncamera.Tonsofbignameactorsarelike5'5''5'9''.Dudesthatare
tallcan'treallybemadetolooksmaller.Youcanmakeashortguylooktallerwithangles,shorterpeoplearoundthem,andhaving
themstandonthingsoutsideofthecameraview.
IsawJeremyRenneratahotelonceanddudeistiny.GraniteI'm6'3''210lbssobasicallyanyonenotinthegymIgotobenching
like270lookssmallishtome,buthewastiny.Liketeenageboysize.
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[] oneinamil7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YournameisGranite?
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[] GottlobFrege undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Granite
Lookslikeyouaren'ttoosmarteither.
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OrI'mtypingonmyphoneanddon'treallygiveashit.Yougotthepointright?Languageisfluid.
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[] GottlobFrege undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yougiveenoughofashittoreply,obviously.Yourepliedbecauseyouknowdeepdownyouaren'tveryintelligent.
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K.
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[] doublepoly123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heslike5'10"thatsaverageheight.Im6'0"andIdotthinkthatssmall.Itmightbethefactthatyou'rearoundbigpeople.
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Yeahprobablythattoo.IworkoutalottooandI'msurethatmakesitweirdtoo.Mybrotherinlawis6'5''andbiggerthan
memusclewise.Shit,evenmymomis5'11''.
Igrewupplayingshootingguardontravelteamssopeople6'6''6'7''arekindofnormalforme.I'mhonestlyoneofthe
shorterofmyfriends.
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I'ma5'9"female,soalotofpeopleareshorttome.Ididn'trealizeD.RadwasTHATshort.
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Itreallyisweird.Shortestpersoninmyfamilyismymomandshe's5'11''.Evenmylittlecousinwhois13Iguess
qualifiesandheis5'9'''.IguessI'mjustusedtotallasfuckpeoplelol.
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lolheis5'5"..Ijustgoogledit.
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don'tgetmewrong,danradcliffefuckingrules.butIam5'5"andapetiteblondchick..
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[] gottatrollemall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
5'5isn'tpetite,don'tkidyourself.5'5isfairlyaverageforagirl
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heynow!lolI'mjustsayingi'mlikestillfairlysmallframed..nottryingtoclaimtobetheworldtiniestwoman..yes,Iaman
averageheightfora26yearoldamericanwoman..sodon'tbehating..0
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[] BertitoMio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibetyoucouldtakehimonandwin.
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Wow!Hedoesn'tlookthatshorttome!
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[] DummiesBelow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit
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[] IllOHMinati undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] rulestein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheClintonsmurderedVinceFoster.
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seriously?Ithoughtthisonediedintheearly90s.
Ok,whywouldtheymurderhim?
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[] rulestein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OK,soIdon'tactuallybelievethisone.Ijustwantedtoparticipateinthethread.Now,Breitbart'sdeathfollowedbythecoroner's
deathissuspicious.
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[] backthatNASup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthJarJar
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[] slicedpi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IremembersomefriendsofmineJokingabouthow,whilevaccines,pharmaceuticalcompaniesrealisedthattheywerecuttingintotheir
profits,andwhiletheycouldn'tactuallysabotagevaccines,theycouldmakepeoplethinktheywere.Thusbegantheantivaxer
movement.
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[] oldmanball undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSgovernmentspreadHIVintheU.S.bytryingtogetridofhomosexuals.
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[] Hobomandan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] wutangplan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlderaanwasaninsidejobsothatpeopleforgotaboutLukeandLeakissing
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[] caulfield45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alderaanwasbeforethekiss.
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[] wutangplan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Premeditatedincest
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[] niboswald undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bigpharmatotallyusedchemicalsin1970s1980s90svaccinationsthatresultedinchildautisminaminorityofcasesbutwereableto
successfullycoveritupbycreatingapublicopiniontowardsprotestorsasbeingloonynutjobs.
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[] bobwarth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiscompletelyandutterlyimpossible.Autismageneticdisorder,soinorderforvaccinestohavecausedautism,theywouldneedto
drasticallyalterbrainchemistryandgenes.
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[] ZippityD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SortoffallsoverinDenmarkwiththeirdetailedmultigenerationrecordsthough.ButIsupposeonecouldrationalizetheconspiracyby
sayingitwasjustAmericaandsomehowcorrectedbeforethemassiveamountsofseriousstudieswenowhave.
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[] rabidkiwi13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TommyWisseauisDBCooper
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[] Barclay_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob.
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[] cslinger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifit'sresulteffectedlargeamountsofmoneyorpower,itprobablyhassometruthtoit.
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[] tripptofan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditorsleavingcommentsputthoseyellowemoticonface/headsattheendoftheircommentssothatreaderswhoarebrowsing
quicklythinkit'sgold.Itseemstohappenalotthatapostwithpositivekarmaand/orgoldwillreceivemoreupvotesfromredditorswho
normallydon'tvoteatall.Thereisawordorsomewordsforthis,butidkwhattheyare.
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[] chuckymcgee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PayPalmakesitashardaspossibletouseacreditcard,anddeliberatelyaddsfakeloadscreenstomakeithardertopaywithacredit
card.Thiskeepstheircutmuchhigher.
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Isthisalsowhyittakesthemlikeafuckinweektomovemoneytomybankaccount?
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[] m8uw0t undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThefakeloadscreensareactuallybecausebackinthedaybeforeeCommercewasbigtheydidntwantthetransactionstohappen
instantlybecausetheywantedpeopletothinktheywerecalculatingtransactionsandstuff.
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[] Gibcat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswasfact.
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[] SoulFire6464 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisprobablygoingtobeunpopular,butIthinkthepharmaceuticalindustriesdohaveacureforcancer.
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[] Szalachowski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cancerisaveryunpredictablediseasethatcomesinmanyforms.Sowhiletheremaybeacureforacertaintypeofcanceroutthere,a
universalcureisveryunlikely...ButIhopeyou'reright
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Imeanatthecoreofit,cancerisuncontrolledcelldivision.There'sasingular"cause".Who'stosaythatit'simpossibletocreatea
drugthatjustmakesitgobacktoproperlyregulatedcelldivision?
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[] SoulFire6464 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifnotallcancer,Ithinkthatthere'satleastacureforoneofthemoreprevalenttypes.
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[] Gezus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/saudiprince
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[] thee_crabler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snosuchthingassalt.
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[] MrPokemon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatitreallyisbutter.
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[] rochford77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WillMcAvoyisaRegisteredRepublican
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[] bm0000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKandRFKassassinations.
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This
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[] mcfarad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GrizzlyAdamsdidhaveabeard.
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[] TAC1313 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
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[] thatmillerkid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JamesBondissimplyacodenamegiventoanyagentinthe007position.SoeverytimeanewactorplaysBond,it'snotarebootofthe
series,justanewagentwiththesamedutiesandcodename.
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JamesBondwasanornithologist,thewriterofabirdbookFlemingliked!
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[] omni_whore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwashiscover
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Ah.Haven'tseenaBondmovieinages.ButIjustfinishedabiographyofIanFleming,"Goldeneye",itwasprettygood.Lots
ofgreatbirdsinJamaica.
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[] chrome1453 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeusesbeinganornathologistashiscoverwhenhefirstmeetsHalleBerryinDieAnotherDay.
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[] jrsc5ve undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'massumingthepeoplethatsaid9/11arebeingdownvoted,eventhoughourgovernmenthasreleaseddocumentsofitplanningtoto
similarthingshere
Buthey,screwlogic
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[] MAK3AWiiSH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buthey,screwlogic
AndI'dliketoknowwheretheplanethathitthepentagonwent.AsfarasI'veseentheonlything"left"oftheplanewasasingleengine
andsomerandomdebris,buttheholecreatedwhentheplanehitisn'tbigenoughforanentireplanttofitthrough.
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[] cmac2992 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegovernmentisreadingallofouronlinecommunication.
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MichelleObamawasbornamale!Theevidenceisoutthere!ObamaisprobablysuckingMichaelsdickrightnow!Wakeupmurica!
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Where'stheevidence?
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[] JawshAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JohnSnowwillreturninseason6
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[] GandalfsWrinklyBalls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dankmemesmeltretardsdreams
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[] throwapeater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
aliens
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[] JasonOnTheBeach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob.there,isaidit!
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[] dufu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ChicagoofficialscoveredupLaquanMcDonald'sdeath
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[] Ballzajizz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
USAcreatedISILinorderto"pass"themiddleeastproblemtoeuropeans.
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[] dnlhl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUKConservativePartydeliberatelyimplementspoliciesthatwillharmtheNationalHealthService,thenpointstotheresultsof
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thosepoliciesasevidencethattheNHSisinefficient,inordertojustifyfurtherattacksonit.
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Isthataconspiracytheoryorjustafact?BecauseUSConservativeshavebeenrunningasmearcampaignagainstObamacaresince
dayoneanduseeverysinglestatistictoprovehowbaditis,despitewhatthestatisticsactuallysay."Only9millionmorepeoplehave
healthcarenow?Obamacareisafailure!"
Thefactthattheyassociateitwiththepresidentthey'vealreadyconvincedeveryonetohatesaysalot.NobodycallsNoChildLeft
Behind"Dubyaschoolin".IwouldsayNCLBhasbeenwayworsethanObamacareandyet,noDubyaschoolin.
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[] Sirpiku undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mfairlylowerincomeintheUS.Obamacarehasputanunwantedburdenonmyincome.I'mlookingatcloseto200amonthgone
thatIcouldbespendingonnutritionorothernecessaryitems.Asitstandsthemandateishorrendoustolowerincomefamiliesthat
layjustabovethesubsidybar.
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[] CaptAmerica undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ToprotectCalRipkensconsecutivegamestreak,Oriolemanagementcancelledagameindertheguiseofelectricalproblems.Cal
RipkenwasdistraughtthatdaybecausehefoundouthiswifehadanaffairwithKevinCostnerwhowasintownfilmingamovie.
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[] jaykyew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthoughtitwasbecausehepunchedKevinCostnerwhenhefoundoutandhurthishand
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[] H37man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfthatistruethenI'mgladthatithappened.Idon'tthinkIcouldbarethenewsthatKevintincupCostnerwouldhaveruinedripkins
consecutivestreakbysleepingwithhiswife.
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[] lambueljackson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'ssoshitty.Youdon'tfuckwithCalRipken!
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[] Ceedog48 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait,isthisanactualtheory?
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[] FreakinSweetMang undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.snopes.com/sports/baseball/ripkenstreak.asp
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[] IamBrian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostinterestingtheoryrighthere!
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[] abcdavis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wifemusthavebeenababe.
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[] BoBoMoToe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CalRipkens
Nottrue:http://www.snopes.com/sports/baseball/ripkenstreak.asp
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[] shelfdog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah.WasdebunkedbysnopesRipkenwasoncameraafewtimesthatnightaswell.
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[] EvelJim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] hippiedippy22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,TILIdislikeKevinCostner
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[] feral_rooster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TILIlikeKevinCostner.Hewasneverlinkedtofuckingmywifeunlikemostanyothermaleintheworld.
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[] GreyCr0ss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BothCostnerandRipkenhavepubliclydeniedthis
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[] ComatoseSixty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichprovesabsolutelynothing.
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Himbeingseenattheparkprovesnothing?
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Yeah,youeditedyourpostafterIresponded.There'sevenastarindicatingthatyoudidso.
Isaidthatthebothofthempubliclydenyingthisprovesnothing.Now,I'mnotclaimingonewayoranotherasIdon't
giveadamnaboutbaseball.Myonlypointisthatbothofthemsayingsomethingdoesn'tmakeittrue.
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That'sreallyweird.Igotthenotifierabout15minutesafterIeditedmypost.Sorryaboutthemixup
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whataboutprivatelydenial?
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[] woahmanitsme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
conspiracytheory
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[] vanshaak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,thatsettlesthings.
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[] ZombieBarney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butnotthewife?Hmmmm
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[] flakAttack510 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesyourwifeshowupatyourjobeveryday?
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Yoursdoes!
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[] NBABUCKS1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wellit'sanembarrassingstory,whywouldn'tthey?
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Becausethegameinquestionis2yearsafterhebroketherecordanyhow.TherewouldbenoreasonforCaltocareatthat
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point.
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[] ElegantRedditQuotes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goddamnit,IloveCostner.Why'dyouhavetotellmehe'slessthanperfect?:(
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Ilovehimmorenow.
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[] adh247 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KevinFosterhasalwaysrubbedmethewrongway.Ifeellikeeverymoviehehasdirected/wrote/produced,healwaysgiveshimself
somesortofrolethatmakeshimsometypeofrunofthemillcharacterthatturnsouttobeeithersometypeofbadassorsomeguy
everyonethinksisamazing.
Ijustgetthisnarcissistic/arrogantvibefromhim
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Word.Dancesw/Wolvescomestomind.Alsohasaverypunchablemug.
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ItwasactuallyBobOdenkirk.
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[] cjz2007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ahahahahaha.s'allgoodman
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[] IchBinGelangweilt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
s'allgoodman
BetterCallS'all!
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[] R_TOKAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sawidelyknownpieceofshithumanbeingmate.
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Iknewit!(seeothercommentinthisthread)
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[] sixhourssober undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hell,thisismoreonRipken'swifethanCostner.Hemaynothaveevenknownwhoshewasorifshewasmarried.
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[] ziusudrazoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Accordingtothedebunkedconspiracytheory,heknew.
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FieldofDreams?
Thatwouldbejusttooperfect
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[] Hayes231 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itwasThePostman
whichisevenmoreperfect
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[] IronMyShirt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thepostmanis,historically,affairsuspect#1
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[] LanceGoodthrust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfeellikeFieldofDreamswouldbetooold.Itcameoutin89andhebroketherecordin95.Looking6yearsintothefuturefora
recordseemslikeastretch.Iwouldputitsomewherein9395.
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[] meatfrappe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkForTheLoveoftheGamewouldbeamoreaptfit.
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[] o_mh_c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tellmemore.When?
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[] bxncwzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hereisthesnopesstoryifyouwanttoreadmoreintoit.Yeahit'sOPsconspiracy,butitwasclaimedfalsebythem.
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[] NotOriginalOriginal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeorgeBushdid9/11.
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[] KleanIsMe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid9/11...
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[] Saikewnonebi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlotTwist9/11isn'treal.
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TheCIAhasworkedwithdrugproducerstofundsecretarmiesanddrugsmugglerstosupplycovertwars.
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[] fknpublishmepls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisconfirmedfact
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[] kuroninjaofshadows undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mhearingaSystemOfADownreference,intendedornot.
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[] soulsiphon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UtilizingdrugstopayforSecretwarsaroundtheworldDrugsarenowyourglobalpolicyNowyoupolicetheglobe
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[] toiridhe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probably?ThisoneisbasicallyadmittedtobackduringIranContra...
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[] Shortdood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahtheyadmittedtodoingthatinthereportbutbecauseoftheLewinskyscandalitdidn'tgetanyairtime
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It'salmostasthoughscandalsaremanufacturedoutofthinairinordertosmokescreenactuallysignificantshit.
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Idon'tknowaboutotherscandalsbeingconstructed,butinthingsliketheNuganHandBankcollapseandtheinvestigationof
theOctoberSurprisealotofstrangepeoplecameoutofthewoodworkmakingallkindsofclaimsthatwereeasilyrefutedside
trackinginvestigatorsandjournalistswouldn'tbeunreasonabletothinkitwasdisinformation.
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[] dillclew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.TonsofevidencethattheCIAwascomplicitorfacilitatedthecrackepidemicinthe80sbyallowingtheContras(whowerefighting
arecoupingandCongresswasreluctanttofootthebill)inNicaraguatosellcoketourbanmarketsinmajorUScities.There'sabook
basedontheinvestigationcalledDarkAlliancebyGaryWebbthatwasrecentlymadeintoamoviecalledShootTheMessenger,
starringJeremyRenner.Alsothere'sagreatdocumentaryonthesubjectcalledFreewayRick,whowasalocaldrugsellingkingpinin
LAatthetimeandgivesfascinatingtestimonyregardingwhereallhissupplieswerecomingfrom.
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FreewayRick
CheckoutthepodcastsJoeRogandidwiththeguy,thereareatleastthree.Evenifonlyonetenthofhisstoriesaretrue,itisstill
mindboggling.
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Thecontraswerenotfightingarevolution.TheSomozafamilyhadruledNicaraguaforthreegenerationsjustliketheKimDynasty
inNorthKoreaandinthelate1970sapopularrevoltcalledtheSandanistasoustedthisdictatorship.TheContrasweretheSomoza
dictatorshipsformermilitary.
EverythingWebbreportedhadbeenreportedinthe1980sandearly90sbyLeslieCockburn,BobParry,AlfredMcCoys2ndedition
ofhisbook,theKerryReport,andPBSFrontline.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpoahXztlM
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Mymistake.Myunderstandingisverybroadstrokesatthispoint.It'sagreatdocumentarylinked.TheCIAoperationsinLaos
arealmostequallyshocking.Intheenditseemstoallcomedowntotheagencywantingtofunditsoperations,whateverthey
maybeatthetime,withmoneythatdoesn'tcomefromgovernmentprocurement(sincetheyasktoomanyquestions).
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Ithinkit'smoreaccuratetosaytheContraswerefightingacounterrevolution.Sincethat'sliterallywhatcontrameans:
contrarevolucionario.
TheleftwingSandinistasoverthrewtherightwingregimefriendlywiththeUS,andthecontraswerefightingtoreversethat.
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[] manfrin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beforeitcametolightthateverythingbereportedwastrue,GaryWebbbasicallyhadhisliferuinedfired,divorced,calledanut
hewasfoundwithtwobulletsinhisheadandthecoronerruledita'suicide'.
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Plentyofpeoplehavecoveredthistopicarearealiveandwell.
AlfredW.McCoywrotePoliticsofaHeroininthe70sandisaliveandwellLeslieCockburnandBobParryreportedonthe
ContrasandtheReagangangandthey'realiveRaymondBonnerandAlmaGuillermoprietoreportedontheElMozote
MassacreintheElSalvador(itsimportanttorememberthattherewereaboutthreeorfourDirtyWarsgoingonatthetimein
CentralAmerica)andhadtheircareersruinedforitbuttheyain'tdeadWilliamBlumcompilerofKillingHopethedefinitive
textforeveryAmericanovertandcovertforeigninterventionisaliveandwellJohnKerrydidhisownsenateinvestigationand
isstillalive(albeitanowahack)rogueCIAcaseofficersPhilipAgeeandJohnStockwellandDavidMcMichaelareallalive
andwellorpassedawayofoldageforAgee(McMichaelwasNicaraguasstarwitnessintheirWorldCourtcaseagainstthe
USAthatsawtheUSbecometheonlystateconvictedofInternationalTerrorism)andonandoneveryoneisalive.
Idon'tseeanythingtosuggestfoulplayforWebb.
Peoplebecomedepressed.
Bodiesexperiencespasmsindeaththatconstrictmusclesthatcancauseatriggertobepulled.
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[] nivenfan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyLovehadCurtCobainkilledbecausehewasabouttodivorceherandcutheroutofhiswill.Documentaryworthwatching.
http://www.ibtimes.com/didcourtneylovekillkurtcobainconspiracytheoryemergessoakedbleachedvideo1921546
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[] Alvenairs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtleastspellKurt'snamerightwhentryingtomakeapointabouthisdeath.
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[] Jacksrabbit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemainreasonObamadoesn'tdeclaremartiallawtousurptheconstitutiontostaylongerinpoweristhefactthatMichelleObama
doesn'tlikehimbeingpresidentanylongerthannecessary.
Source:http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/25/1453650/ObamasfavoriteObamaconspiracytheoryJadeHelm
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[] yanjingzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Appledeliberatelyslowoldmodelsbyupdateswhenanewmodelisreleased.
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IbelievethiswholeheartedlywhenitcomestodevicesrunningiOS.Idon'tknowmuchaboutMacs,butI'veowned,used,jailbroke,
cracked,fixed,etc.whytoomanyiOSdevicesovertheyearstoknowthatwhenadeviceis2majoriOSreleasespasttheinitialrelease
ofthedevice,theyslowitdownbigtime.Iftheywantedto,theycouldoptimizethembuttheywon't.
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[] donkey2471 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
idon'tthinktheydeliberatlydoitpersaybutitisa'happyaccident'frthemastheoldermodelsjustsimplecan'thandlethenew
updatesasthehardwareisn'tgoodenough.Idon'tbelievetheyslowdownoldermodels,theyjustmakethemodelssotheycannot
handlefutureupdates.
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Well,it'snotthatthey'resaying"let'smakethisreleaserunlikecraponthisdevice"asmuchasits"let'snotputthetimeand
effortintooptimisingthisreleaseonthisdevice."it'sasdeliberativeasthefirst,butit'snotthatthey'redeliberativeabout
makingitbethebestitcanbeeither.
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[] mynameisalso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ElectoralfraudplacingGWBinthewhitehouse
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[] expendablecrewman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlotofpeoplethinkthesamethinkaboutObama
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[] CANT_TRUST_THE_NSA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
How?Obamawonwith365electoralvotes,thenwith332votes.Itwasn'tasinglestatethatdidit.
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[] merupu8352 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thistheoryhasalotmorecredence,though.WhentheFloridarecountsfinallydidcomeback,Gorewonboththepopularand
electoralvotes.GeorgeW.BushwascrownedPresidentbytheSupremeCourt/AntoninScalia.
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[] JDDrummer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItworkedforJFK.
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[] TobyCelery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverheardthistheory
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[] xlet_cobra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anythingin/r/shittyconspiracy
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[] cbdr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Istronglybelievethattheshow"24"wastoconditionusthattortureisjustifiableintheageofterrorism.
Howfarwe'vefallen...
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OperationMockingbird.
MilitarycensorshiptookoverreallyearlySeptember11th2001,andwe'restilllivinginit.
WatchingZeroDarkThirtyvArgofortheOscarswasprettytransparentanddisgusting.ThenyougetMichelleObamatogivethe
award.
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[] RedditMcRedditor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'tthereanewsstoryrecentlywhereitturnsoutthemilitaryhavebeenfundinggoodwill"stories"atNFLstadiums?
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[] duckondrugs10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinktheshowNCISLAdoesthat.I'mcurrentlyrecoveringfromanoperationsodaytimeisonasbackgroundnoise,andalotof
repeatsofthatshowarebroadcast.Thereareanawfullotofreferencestotortureandthelikemadebythemaincharactersasamean
toanend.
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[] JCubs79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themaincharactersinthatshowaresubjectedtotorturethemselvesinatleast4seasonfinales.
Source:Iwatchitwithmyparents.Idon'tknowwhy
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Andinreallifemostpeoplewhoundergotortureenduparguingagainstitfortherestoftheirlife.LikehowJohnMcCainisa
prettystaunchRepublican,exceptontheissueoftorturebecauseheexperienceditduringhistimeasaPOW.
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Iwasn'targuingforit.Juststatingthat.
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IthinkImeanttoreplytosomeoneelse
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[] Scrusby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NoChildLeftBehindwasdesignedtofuckupthepubliceducationsystemsothatitcouldbeeasilyprivatized
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idon'tthinktedkennedywouldhavebeendownforthat.thenagainhehatedthewayitwasimplementedsowhoknows
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[] HalalVeggieBacon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TedKennedyalsogotawaywithmurder.WhataNazi.
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imeanaccidentalmanslaughterbutyeah.deffonotanazitho
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Yeah,"accidentalmanslaughter".Womanwasstillaliveinthecarafterthecrashandhelefther.
TypicalKennedy.
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[] cheesy80s undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whileit'sdoingexactlythat,Ipersonallyknewthebrainchildofthatprogramandhewasbiggovernmentcontrolofeducationallthe
way.
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[] excut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iphoneupdatesslowdownoldermodelphonesmakingtheusersbuynewermodels.
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[] Reapingday15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthatDicedidthistoBattlefield3beforethereleaseofBattlefield4.Ihadalmostnoproblemswithbf3untiltheyannouncedbf4.I
thinkitwasafewweeksbeforeoraftertheannouncementthattherewasonebigpatchthatseemedtofuckalotofshitup.
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[] DrCoolCat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisexactlywhattheappleguysaidandwasthereasonwhyIhadtobuyanewiPhonetwomonthsago..
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[] tripmaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Semischolarlyanalysisofthisveryconspiracy:NYTimesArticle
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[] BritishMongrel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotjustiPhones,Ihadasamsunggalaxys2thatgotrenderednearunusablebyasoftwareupdatethatyoucouldn'tundowithout
hackingthephone,Icouldn'taffordtoupgradeearlysoihadaphonefor6monthsorsothatwouldcrashconstantlyandtookforever
toloadanything.
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Googlesearchesfor"iPhoneslow"spikeimmediatelybeforenewiPhonereleases
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Ilovehowpervasivethisis,andhowbigofamisunderstandingitis.
Thisishowsoftwareworks.Itgetsdevelopedonandforthelatesthardware.It'snotjusttheOS,either.Appsdothesamething.You
noticeappsslowingdownbecausethedevskeepupdatingthemtousethenewfeaturesinthenewOSandonthenewhardware.
Thishappensacrosseveryplatform,notjustApple.Shit,notevenjustmobile.
Andpeopleactlikeit'ssomeschemecookedupbythemustachetwirlingvillainswhoareinchargeofcorporateAmerica.
Downrighthilarious.
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[] redditacc2015 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mstillusinganiPhone4I'vehadsinceSep(ish)2010outofsomeoddattachmentforit/theaccumulativeeffectofnotseeinganew
phoneI'malltoobotheredaboutowning.Thethingstillworkslikeadreamalthoughcan'tupdatepastIOS7.
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[] loliconmonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowthissoundslikesomethingthatcanbedefinitelyproventrue/false.
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[] PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_NOSE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Formeitwasn'tthespeedissue.ItwasthatmyiPhone4shadaboutathreehourbatterylife.
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[] pmmecodeproblems undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisactuallytrue.Notintentionallybutifyougivedevelopersnewmodelsofphonesitmeansitcanholdmoredataandwhenyou
say"Justdeveloptosupportthatphoneandcramsupportinfortheotherslater"theprogramstheymakecanthenusemoreresources.
Usuallyifyoudon'tupdateyoucankeepyourphonerunningfastbutitwon'thavethefeaturesthateveryoneelsedoes.
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[] JordanFromSales undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sreallynotmuchofa"conspiracytheory"asitismoore'slaw
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[] twizzlebizzle21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Convenientlybatteriesinourphonesarebecomingsealedinandseemtolastapproximately2years...
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[] zeezle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveaniPhone4withthemostcurrentupdatesanditworksperfectlyfine.
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[] AppleBytes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theslowdownisnotnecessarilybydesign,butmuchmorelikelytheresultofsubsequentupdatesbeingoptimizedfornewer
chips/architecture.Thismeansthatolderchipsmustperformnew(andprocessorintensive)taskswithoutthespecializedhardware
designedtomakethemfast.ThisinevitableresultsingreaterCPUdemands,anddecreasedbatterylife.
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[] a_frog_on_stilts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SeeIwouldbelievethis,butmymumnowusesmyoldIphone4onthelatestfirmwarewithnoproblems.Ofcoursesheonlyusesitfor
textingandemailbutthat'sbesidethepoint!
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[] upandawayxo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
myiphoneisalmost5yearsoldandisrunningoniOS5withoutanyproblems.goodasnew.
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[] NbKJcK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswasplainfact.
Thinkaboutit,youbuyagocart,andithasagocartengine.Andeverysixmonthstheengine(software)getsupdated,butthechassy
(hardware)staysthesame.NowaftertwoyearsyourgocarthasaV63.5Lenginebutthesameoldchassyasbefore,doyouthink
yourgocartisgoingtorunverywell??
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[] 2Twice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisexactlywhyIswitchedfrommyiPhone3GtoAndroidandneverlookedback.
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[] Rvngizswt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'realotmoreblatantthanthatandjustreleaseOSesthataren'tcompatiblewitholdermodels
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[] annoyinglyfriendly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whowouldn'twantthenewermodelthough???
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[] My_Normal_Account undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneisn'tverygood.IhaveanoldiPhone4SthatrunsiOS9prettymuchflawlessly,withonlyafewslowdownshereandthere
duringanimations.AppleistheonlyphonecompanyI'veeverseenthatputseffortintomakingsuretheirolddevicescanstayonas
manyupdatesaspossible,it'strulyamazingthataphonefrom45yearsagocanruncurrentsoftwarewithmostofit'snewfeatures.
EspeciallyconsideringthenearlydoubleperformanceeachnewiPhonebrought.Fuckingamazingstuff.
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[] techmaster242 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Androiddoesn'thavethisproblem.
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[] keath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SojustbuyAndroid,whereyoucan'tgetanyupdates.
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[] handinhand12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tsaythisistrue,especiallysincetheymakeseparatebuildsforeachmodelnowwithiOS9inordertofullyoptimizetheir
capabilities.
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[] bubbabubba345 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoiOSupdatesonlygoback23phoneversionsIbelieve.IthinkiOS9.1isonlyavailableforphonesnewerthantheiPhone5or5s.
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[] SIlentguardian11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndroidandSamsungaswell
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[] theshowstoppa34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamextremelylatetothisone,butthehardwareneededtorunsometypesofnewsoftwareisn'tcapableofrunningatfullcapacity.
ThatbeingsaidIFtheywantedtokeepoldstocktheywouldmakeasimilarversioncomparabletothecurrentupdatespecificallyforthe
olderdevices.EitherwayIdonotdoubtthisone.
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[] Maxthetank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YuphadtwoISOdevices5yearsapartgotoabsoluteshitwithin3weeksofanupdate.neveragain.
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[] pixelflop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'stotallyascamperpetratedbyApple.
Proof:Your8yearoldDellrunsWindows10lightningfast.
Oh,wait.Maybeolderhardwarerunsnewersoftwareslowly.
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[] real_hougigo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveit.IcannolongergoonESPNonmyIphone4andIcan'tdownloadalotofapps
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[] kidneystonejones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yesandno.Thescamisgetthemintothestoretovisittheapplegeniusesandwalkpastallthenewtoys.Easypickingsatthatpoint.
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[] howtobansomeone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noconspiracy
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[] JT_5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysurethiswasactuallyproven.AllAppleproductsuseprettylowgradehardware.Theonlywhytheyworksowellisbecause
Applespecificallydesignstheirsoftwaretoworkwellwiththehardware.Inessencethesoftwareandhardwareinterfaceiswhatmakes
thephonessogood.Howeveronceanewphonecomesoutwithdifferenthardware/software,thenewsoftwareyoudownloadforyour
oldermodelisn'toptimizedforthealreadyoutdatedhardwareandthusyourphoneisslower,batterydoesn'tlastaslong,andbugsare
morelikely.
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Websitesandappsadvancetoo.Also,peoplegetusedtofasterspeeds
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[] elcapitansammy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asasoftwareengineerwho'sbattledthechallengeofoptimisingcodetorunonmultiplehardwareplatformsIcansaythereissome
difficultyintuningcodetorunoptimallyacrossgenerationsofhardware.There'softenatradeofftobemadeandthelatesthardware
wins,particularlyinamarketlikesmartphoneswhereeachmodelistorndownbythepublicwhenitreleases,butseldomwhenthe
softwareisupdated.
IwillsaythatI'vebeenpleasedwithGoogle'supdatestomynexus5.Itjustkeepsgettingbetter.
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[] UsayNOPE_IsayMOAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Ihadaniphone3g.Workedfine.Downloadedasoftwareupdate,suddenlymywifiwouldnolongerconnect.Tookitintotheapple
store.TheytriedtotellmeImusthavedroppeditorgotitwet,andthatthewificardwasbroken.Itoldthemthatwasbullshit,asIused
thewifitodownloadtheupdate,andafteritwasinstalledwithnodropandnearnomoisture,itwouldn'twork.Fuckapple.
I'membarrassedtosayIboughtanew4srightwhenthe5cameout,asafreephoneonacontract.Iamtheexactsuckertheyplanned
thisfor,andIevenwentthroughwithitawareofwhattheyweredoing.ThisisthelastiphoneIeverbuy.Iswearit.Srslyforrealz.
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[] L33tMasta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'selectronicsingeneral.Tobefair,Appledoesprovideupdatesfor5yearsontheirphones.Somethingnoothercompanycan
match.
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[] Buttonwalls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InstallGentoo
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[] d4nc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'treallyaconspiracy,alotofcompaniesdothis.Also,appledoesthisbychangingthechargingcables.
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[] loves2spoog3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistrue.Fullfuckingstop.
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[] deweysmith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhywouldAppleintentionallycreateapoorexperienceforauserthatwillsoonbeinthemarketforanewdevice?
Ihavethisdiscussionwithmybrotherinlaweverysinglefallanditstillmakesnosensetome.
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[] DrWhiskeydick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyoukeeptransferringyourshittonewermodelsofiphones,itessentiallybringsalltheolder,unfixableglitchesthateachiterationhad
andputsthemonyournewphone.
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[] wolfej4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadthistheorysinceIgotthe3GSasagraduationgiftin2010,maybeaweekorsobeforethe4cameout.Ithinkitwasnotlong
afterwhateveriOSupdatecameoutthatyearthatthemapsapp(theGooglemaps)startedcrashingmoreoftenthanusualand
requiredmorehardrestartingthanbefore.
ButnowIhaveaniPhone6IgotforChristmaslastyearandIdon'thaveanyissueswhatsoever.I'msureifthe7comesoutnextyear
alongwithanewiOSversion,I'llstartseeingsomedecreasesinperformance,butlikeIsaid,Idon'thaveanyproblemswithmycurrent
phone.
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[] Noname_Maddox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Happenedtoaipad2whichranperfectly.Theybasicallybrickedit.Ratherannoyedaboutthisbutwhodoyoucomplainto?
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[] Ecologisto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnupdatekilledtheiPhone4ofmywife:batterywouldnotlastmorethanafewhoursanymore,nomorewifi.Ithoughtitwas
unfortunateandsheboughtanewone.
Inthefollowingmonths,IrealizedthatithappenedtomostofthepeopleIknewwhostillownedaniphone4.Allaftertheyappliedthe
update.
Ican'tbesurethatApplediditonpurposebutIamsurethatthispreciseupdatekilledtheiphone4generation.
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[] chupacabruhh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikethisisoneofthoseconspiracytheoriesyou'redumbtonotbelieve.There'snowayitisn'ttrue.Assoonasyoudocertain
updatesyouphonegoesfromworkingperfectlyfinetobeingatotalhunkofshit.
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[] ConfusingDalek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MysisterhadanoldgeniPod,andithasreallygoodqualityonanoldphoto,yetshetakesthesamephotonowanditlooksterrible.
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whichiswhymy5Shasn'tbeenupdatedinoverayear.Stillworksgreat,justhadtochangeoutachargeport.
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[] Baraka_Flocka_Flame undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
My5sranperfectupuntiltheupdatethatcamewiththe6s.Nowmyphone'sperformancecanonlybedescribedasbroken.Lotsof
littlebugsthatarejustinfuriating.Goodexample:wheneverIansweraphonecall,thephonewillcontinuetoringtwomoretimesbefore
actuallyanswering.Ifindmyselfswipingtoanswer,puttingthephonetomyear,andsaying"hello?"Onlytohavemyphoneringtwice
moreinmyear.Sofuckingannoying.Andhalfthetimetheswipewon'tevenregisterandIendupmissingthecalbecauseitjustwon't
pickup.TherearenumerousotherbugsamongthesethatmakehavinganiPhoneahasslenow.IlovemyiPhoneandI'vehadonefor
years,butI'matthepointoflookingatotheroptionsnowbecauseIjustcan'tstandforthisshit.
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[] rearwheelgrowl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This
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[] firehead818 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistruetoadegree.Idon'tthinkappledoesitintentionallytomakemoremoney,butthenewsoftwareobviouslywon'tworkaswell
onoldhardware.
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[] reactantt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Havefriendsthatsworetheirphoneperformedsignificantlyslowerafterupdating.
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[] SilasX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mstillusingthe4sIgotinApril2012.
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[] seriously_clueless undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icanconfirmthatthisisindeednottrue.Weabsolutelydoeverythingwecoulddomakeeverygenerationofsoftwaretorunasfastas
possibleonallexistingdevices.
Source:accesstohighlevelexecutivesinAppleengineering
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[] Duderds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadthisissuewitheverygalaxyphoneI'vehadafterthe1stAT&Tupdate.Itisabsolutelyinfuriating...thehardwarecanhandlethe
firstupdatesotrustmeit'snotaproblem...
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[] random_girl_me undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WheneveranewIPhonecomesoutmymom'sphonemysteriouslyfuckingbreaks.
Lastoneitliterallyhadaminiexplosionwhileonthecounter.
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[] MildWildcat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wtfWindows10doesn'trunwellonmy2008Dell,mustbeaconspiracy!
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[] BillyJackO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
My4thGeniPodtouchcan'tupdatetoOS7soIcan'tinstallSpotify.Prettystupid.
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[] BSantry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DeargodIhatethisargument.Thisisthesameas"SonymakesnewgamesdesignedonlytobeplayedonthePS4!Thisforcesusers
toabandonthePS3andbuya4justsoSonycanmakemoremoney!!"
Hardwaregetsbetter,allowingmorecomplexsoftware.Complexsoftwaredoesnotworkonlesscomplexhardwareaswell.Thisisn't
somefuckingconspiracy.TheresareasonyoureMachinefrom2004can'trunWindows10.
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[] Maxpowr9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllAppleproducts.HaveaniPad2andit'ssoslowthatHearthstonedoesn'tworkonitanymore.
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[] ruforu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ibelievetherewasanarticlethatshowedthistobeastrongpossibility
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[] George_HansonII undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'thavetoupdate.
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[] Echelon64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknow,theiPhone4SIhaveisprettyzippyforsucholdhardware.
betterthanAndroidOEM'sstrategytoneverbotherupdatingpast6monthsorso.
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[] JeanneLeCube undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ya,Iswearmy4swasworkingperfectlyfineuntilIrecentlyupdatedtothenewOS.Coincidently,rightwhenthenew6scameout.
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[] IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inreality,they'reprobablynotsaying"let'smaketheupdatedothistoslowdowntheoldmodel,"it'sjustthattheyaren'treallyfocusing
ontheoldmodelswhentheywritetheupdate.ThereareprobablypeopleouttherewhohavesuperoldmodeliPhonesthatworkjust
fine.Ifyouignorethesoftwareupdates,yourphonewon'tslowdown,buteventuallyyouwon'tbeabletoupdateyourapps.
I'veheardpeopleclaimthisisconspiracyandclaimthattheydon'twanttoupgradetheirphonebecausetheydon'tcareaboutthenew
features,buttheyhavetobecausethesoftwareupdateslowedtheirphonedowntoomuch.Butreally,ifyoudon'tactuallycareabout
newfeatures,there'sasimplesolution:don'tupgradeyoursoftwaretogetthenewfeaturesandyourphonewillrunfine...
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[] Radiozero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alldatasuggeststhisislikelynottrue.
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[] HauntedShores undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tbesurprisedifitwassomewhattrue,butpartofitcomesdowntohowyouuseyourphone.I'mstillonaniPhone4,itwon't
updatepastiOS7butit'swaymoreresponsivethanmysister's5SsimplybecauseI'veonlyeverhadabout20appsonthereintotal.
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Occam'sRazor.
Updatesalwaysaddnewfeatureswhichbytheirverynatureslowthingsdown.AlsoAppleoptimizesandtestsandspendsmoretime
onnewermodelsbecauseappleisforwardlooking.(See:ApplegetsridofFloppydiscandCDdrivebeforetheworldthoughtitwas
ready).
Appleisjustforwardlookingandinnovative,itwantstomovefastandcreategreattechnologiesandfocusesoncustomersatisfaction
obsessively.Sometimesolderdevicesgetslowerfromtheseotherfactors,butitsnotanintentionalthing.Justlistentoanyofthe
earningscall,thefirstthingoutofTimCook'smouthis"ourcustomersat."(hisjargonforCustomerSatisfaction)hecaresaboutthat
morethanearnings.
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[] Inepta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswasaprovenfact.
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[] ihatedisney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistrue
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[] sphere51185 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WorkedforApple.Canconfirm.TheupdatessqueezebuiltinsoftwareparametersthatcontrolthingslikeWiFi,sound,etc.Thisiswhy
somanyphonesarebrickedafterupdatesandrequirereplacement.
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[] o_mh_c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveanoriginalkindlefire,anditstillworksgreat.
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[] magical_midget undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActualiPhoneuserhere,Idosometimesfeelmyphonebeingslowerinthebigupdates(i.e.iOS8.0,or9.0)butlaterontheyreleasea
0.0.1updatesthatfixesmostoftheproblems.Honestlythelatestupdatewheretheyhavethelowpowermodeisalifesaver,Iwent
fromhaving6hourstohaving10hours.Justbyenablinglowpowerallday(maynotbewhattheyintended,butitworkswonders)is
probablythereasonIamnotupgradingtoanewphonethisyear.
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[] zgh5002 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyaddhundredsoffeaturesineachupdate.It'salackofresourcesinthedevice,notmalice.
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[] see_dubs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Definitelynotaconspiracy.Italsomakesthemappreciatethespeedofthenewphone,despitethefactitwasdesignedfortheiosthey
releasedwithit.
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[] SgtWinters7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'taconspiracy.iPhonedoesthis,Androidjuststopsupdating
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[] cguess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Realreason?Developersarereallylazyandmostlydeveloponthenewesthardware.Sotheywritecodethatonlyrunswellonthe
newesthardware.Ittakesefforttomakecodethatrunswellonslowermachines.
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[] BaconEatingJew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswasalreadyproventobetrue?
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[] Negative_Clank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iOS7updatekilledmyiPhone4dead.Dead.Nowifi,no3Getc.Fuckthem.ThisiPhone6worksgreatthough!
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[] Ladybug2270 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Knowfacttobetrue!Fuckers
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YES!!
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[] JazzFan419 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisafactforMacbooks.TheirOSwillonlyupdateflashsomanytimesuntilitdoesn'tacceptitanymore.
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[] wolfda undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article2709502/DoesAppledeliberatelyslowoldmodelsnewreleaseSearchesiPhoneslow
spikeaheadlaunches.html
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[] Mugenski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiswellknown.Iwouldn'tevencallitaconspiracy.
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[] Troy_And_Abed_In_The undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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I'dliketobelievethiswasanunintentionalsideeffectatfirstthathasbecomeplannedatthispoint.It'sabsolutelytrue.Iwasrockingan
iPhone4withiOS5foryearsuntilIfinallyupdatedandhadtogobuyanewphonewithhowmuchsloweritgot.
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[] DetectiveClownMD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'struebutbecausetheydon'twanttogettrappedintheWindowsmodel.Supportinglegacyhardwareatthecostofinnovation.
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[] TheWalkingBased undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewhojustmadeajumpfroma4Stoa6S,Idefinitelythinkthisistrue.
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[] ahenrie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisjusttrue.
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[] Qwik_Sand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExplainswhymyIPhone4sisdyingat34%fuckingpercent
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[] gh0stmach1ne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeensittingonaniOSupdateformonths.Eventuallymyphonewillstarttolagnoticeably,forcingmetoupdate,atwhichpointitwill
bebetter,butneverasgoodasitoncewas.
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[] dojakitty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yup.Ahundredpercenttrue.
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[] BrothaBudah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisdefinitelytrue!GetaSamsung,thisdoesn'thappenatall
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[] submerge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean...suretheydoandIdon'tthinktheymind.Developersareconstantlypushingthelimitsoftheirhardwaretoprovidemore
featurestotheenduser.Weusuallydevelopforthemostcurrentgenerationofdeviceandassomethinggetsolderwepaylessand
lessattentiontowhateverdemandsitmighthave.Webdevelopmentandbrowsersupportisagreatexampleofthis.IE6onyourwork
computer?Toobad!Bymakingexceptionsfor0.01%there'sadiminishingreturnandmightevenimpactcurrentbrowsersduetosome
unforeseenbug.
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[] sub_xerox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ordon'tforgetthefactthattheystraightupdon'tallowolderandolderiPhonesfromgettingnewsoftwareupdatesmadefornewerand
neweriPhones.
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[] RayCoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisfuckingonerighthere!Ihaveafriendthatessentiallyproveditrighttomebecausehehas3differentgenerationsanddidsome
tests.
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[] GeorgiaGamma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justreadanarticleaboutthis.Legit
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[] noph undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smuchmorelikelythatincrementalappupdatesandsoftwareupdatesincludingnewerfeaturesaredesignedtotakeadvantageof
thecurrentnewesthardwarespecsandbegintotaxolderhardwareovertime.
Butthatdoesn'treallydiscountthetheory.Soaretheseintentionalmistakesorsoftwaredevelopersnotdoingproperarchitectingof
theirproducts?Personalexperiencesaysthelatterthoughtheformerismorefun.
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[] AsheThrasher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoyourWindowscomputerfrom2000canrunWindows10?Hardwareintechnologywillonlylastsolongbeforeitcan'tkeepupwith
thenewsoftwareupdates.
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[] CantUseApostrophes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheproblemisthatApplemakesitimpossibletodowngradetoolderversionsofiOS.Iunderstandthattheydon'twantpeopleto
stayonoutdatedfirmwarebecauseofthepotentialsecurityholes,butIdon'tseewhytheycan'tatleastprovidesomewayfor
advanceduserswhoknowwhatthey'redoingtorollbacktheirupdates.Asitstandsnow,IthinkthatonlytheiPhone4Sandearlier
devicescanbedowngradedusing3rdpartytools,andonlyifyoujailbrokeitonthatearlierversionandbackedupyour"blobs"(not
sureexactlywhattheyare,butallIknowisthatthey'rerequiredtodowngrade).
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Wellthewholepointisthatifyouareanadvanceduseryouprobablyaren'tgoingtouseapple.Appleisliterallybuiltarounda
demographicoftechnologicallyilliteratepeople.Generallyspeakingthatis.
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[] gnittidder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mycomputerfrom2005runsWindows10perfectly.Withjustaramupgradefrom2to4gb.Appledeliberatelyusessubpar
hardware.Whentheworldcanoffer,34gbramtheychoosetogowith1gbevenwhenchargingdoubletheotherphones.Thismay
soundlikegoodbusinessforinvestorsbutitsaveryshittythingtodo.Purposelykeepingyourhardwareunderpoweredsothatyou
canforceupgrades.Evenwhenyouarealreadychargingahugepremium.ThisiswhyIfeelapplemaybeinnovativebutitspretty
filthyandunethical.
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Butit'saboutwhatIjustsaid.Youhadtoupgradeyourcomputertobeabletorunit.
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Yesbutthatupgradeandthecomputerdidn'tcomemeafortune.
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Costsmethesametoupgradewithanandroidasitdoeswithanapplephone.
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[] snoopercooper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExiPhoneowner,canconfirm...
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[] krack_fox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plusthesizeoftheupdatesaregettingconsiderablybigger.I'vegota16gbiPhoneandI'msureIOS9is4or5Gb.Feelsorryifyou
onlyhavethe8Gbone.
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[] eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Similarthingibelieveisthatadsareplacedeverywheretonotonlyforsellingadsbuttowasteinternetsoispcapscanhitconstantly.
Maybeitsalittlefarfetchedbutgoingtoanywebsiteonmyiphoneloadssoslowifellitsduetounnecessaryads.Bythetimecertain
pagesloadiget2textsfromattsayingimbeingcharged$15forgoingovermylimit.
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[] DrAlcoholocaust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisfact,notconspiracy.Alsotheirlaptopsanddesktops.
FuckApple.
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[] swordf1sh2212 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIthinkit'sprettyridiculoushowapplejustreleasesnewupdatesforthenewestiPhone.Motherfucker,I'mtiredofbuying600
dollarphones,can'ttheyjustcomeoutwithnewversionsandsupportsforthelasttwoorthreeiPhones?TheseguysareFucking
greedyasshit!
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[] ElGatoConBotas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ha!Nottrue...Stillrockingmy4s:(
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[] StaffSergeantDignam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msureinlargepartythismightbetrue,butitsalsoaverylogicalimpact.Updatesaremadeforthelatestphonewiththebest
hardware,thuswhentheyareputontheoldermodelsitwon'tworkaswellandthushavesomekinks,makingyourphonesloweror
appearslower.
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[] tearsofsadness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smoreadditionalfeaturesandanicerUIeventuallyshowtheirwearonolderdevicesbyrequiringmorememoryandCPUcycles.
Theycouldspendtimeandmoneydisablingfeaturesforolderdevicesbutthatisn'treallycosteffective.Theydoittosomedegreelike
withthe4sstillbeingabletorunthelatestOS.
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[] MiscoloredFruit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TogoalongwiththeplannedobselesenceandAppleproducttheme,I'mconvincedthattheApplelaptopchargercablesaredesigned
tobreakonthethinsiderightaftertheconverterbox.EverychargercableI'veeverownedfromthemhasbrokeninthatexactplace.
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[] SOLAR_FIELDS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherewasaprettyindepthdiscussionaboutthisonHackerNewsafewdaysago...Thegeneralconsensuswasthatsincethey
favored"design"overthemechanicsofthechargeritbreaksearlier.Probablyintentionalatthispointbecausethereisabsolutelyno
waytheydon'tknowabouttheflawbynow.
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[] penguin01234567 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oldiphoneuser:canconfirm
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[] Jucamia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm.StillanownerofiPhone4.Phoneisslowasshit.
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[] raiskream undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'taconspiracytheory.It'sactuallytrue.
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[] randomshazbot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ownerofaniPhone4S,canconfirm.wentfromworkingfinetocrashingeverytimeIopenedanappandlaggingoutinthehome
screen.It'scompleteBS,thephonewasonlyinuseforayearandIhadneveruseditbeforethen.
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[] ObsceneGesture4u undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknowthisistruefromexperience.Itshouldalsobeexpected,newerOSeshavemorebellsandwhistlesrequiringmoreprocessing
power.It'slikeexpectingyouroldWindows95PCtorunWindows10(withoutslowdown)
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[] ifloop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyThinkPadfrom2007runsbetterthaneveraftertheupdatetoWindows10.Actually,everysingleWindowsupdateimprovedthe
system'sperformancealittlebit(Vista>7>8>10).
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[] shard746 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sbecauseVistawasapieceofshitandranhorriblyoneverysinglepieceofhardware,soit'snotthathardtoimprove
uponit.IOSontheotherhandisalotdifferent.
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[] ifloop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
VistawasfineafterthefirstSPatthelatest.Themainproblemswererelatedtodriversanyway,butthatwasn'treallyan
issuewithThinkPads.
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[] retroactivemportance undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noquestion
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[] mister_james_halpert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusea4sandthismayverywellbetruemineseemstobeworkingalotlesswellthanayearoreven6monthsago
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Yourphoneis4yearsandasmanymodelsbehind...
Thereasonitdoesn'tworkaswellisn'tbecauseit'sgettingcodetellingittorunlikeshit.
Thereasonisbecauseit'sgettingcodedesignedaroundphonesthataresignificantlymorepowerfulthanwhatyou'rerunning.Your
apps,yourOS...thosearedesignedtotakeadvantageofallthenewfeaturesandspecsthatcomewiththe6.Theymakesureit's
compatible,sure.Butevenappsthatusedtorunwell?Theyarebeingupdatedwithcodethatexpectsyourphonetohavealot
morepowerthanitdoes.
It'snotaconspiracy.It'sjustthewaysoftwaredesignworks,andhasalwaysworked.Youcan'trunagamereleasedthisyearona
PCfrom2008poweredbyaPentiumIV.Whyexpectyourphonetodothesamesortofthing?
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[] Jamesinatr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Androidisthesamethough,exceptthatGooglehavenoreasontomakeeachversionslowertheyonlymakeAndroidOneandNexus
phoneswhicharefarlesspopularthanthosefromotherbrands.Andthesephonesaredesignedtobecheap,sotheymakenowhere
nearasmuchasAppledoperunitsoldanyway.
SoIthinkthattheslownessissimplytheadditionofextrafeaturesandgraphicsimprovements.
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[] pezdeath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isaidthisinanearliercommentbutstockandroidactuallygetsfasterwithmostupgrades.Kitkatactuallyhadanoptimizedversion
fordeviceswith512mbofram(whenkitkatreleasedthestandardphonehas1gborhigher).
AlsotheHPtouchpadcanrunMarshmallowsmoothly(itisunstablebutperformanceisactuallyasgoodifnotbetterthanearlier
roms).ThatdeviceneverofficiallyreleasedwithandroidandisbuiltonaTegra2whichisnearly4.5yearsoldatthispoint...
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[] xmachinery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SinceAndroidisopensource,couldn'tdevelopersoptimizethecodestomakeitrunbetter?
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[] jonnyhuu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Androidphonestendtostopbeingupdatedbeforeperformanceissuesarise.TheproblemwithiPhonesisthatApplealwaysseems
topushonelastupdatethatthephonejustcan'thandle.
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[] keithjr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,mostofthemajorAndroidupdatessinceGingerbreadhaveimprovedperformance.
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[] DeathToAllLife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GooglelollipopNexus7brick
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[] HubbaMaBubba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtleastwithAndroidolderphonesdon'tgetgimpedversionsoftheupdates,andifyou'resmartenoughyoucandowngradeyour
phoneagain.
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[] Dm430 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orjustroot.
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[] deyv undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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KeepinmindthatAndroidreleasesfornonNexusphonesarecontrolledandrewrittenbyphonemanufacturersandcarriers.Hence
whyyou'llseeaNexus5runningalrightonAndroid6,whileanewernonNexusphonemightnot.
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Yes,this!Mynexus5runsjustfineonMarshmallow.I'mjustdisappointedthatthenewernexuslineisn'tasaffordableasthe
olderones.
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[] DaleCOUNTRY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yhmynexus4ranperfectly,evenbetterthannew,withlollipop.
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[] Major_Ocelot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Minelostsomestabilityinthelastlollipopupdate(Ithink5.1.1?),themostfrustratingthingbeingthedialerwouldcrash
whenbothmakingandreceivingphonecalls.
I'mnotsureifthisisaconspiracyorjustthefactthatGooglestoppedreleasingupdatesfortheN4sotheyneverhada
chancetoreallyironoutallthebugs.FortunatelytherearecustomROMsbasedonMarshmallowI'mnowrunningone
calledChromaonmyN4anditrunsbrilliantly.It'sprobablysmootherthananiPhone6andit'saphonefrom2012.
Softwarecan'tsavethebatteryorcamerathoughwhichbothsuckshit.
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[] Kitteh5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YesIknowmyiPhone4can'truniOS9,hell,Ijailbroke7anditrunsfasternow.IthinkAppleistryingbutnothardenough.Develop2
versionsofiOSforlowerpoweredhardwareandnormalhardware.Liketheydon'thavethemoneytodoit.
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[] Suspected undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatistheincentiveforthemtomakealowerpoweredversion?ThenewiOSareforpeoplewithnewphonestoexperiencenew
andbetterfeatures.Theyhavenoincentivetomakesoftwareforpeoplewhodidn'tbuyoneoftheirnewphonesforalongtime.
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[] Kitteh5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somorepeoplewitholderdevicesstillwon'triponAppleforplannedobsolencence,andit'dbenicetohaveadecent
experienceeventhougharelativegavemetheiroldphone...
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[] captainstardriver undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfeltlikethishappenedwithWindowsaswell.AftertheWindows10updateboxesstartedappearing,mylaptopmagicallystarted
havingtroublewithmemoryifIhadmorethanafewtabsopenandaprogramortwo.UpdatetoWindows10andvoila,Icanhave3
browserwindowswith10tabsopeninadditiontoDreamweaver,Word,PhotoshopandSkypewithnaryablip,justlikeayearago.
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[] Sinfulchristmas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sjustmoreefficientRAMmanagementontheWindows10end.
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[] captainstardriver undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IcanappreciatethatbutwhydidRAMjuststartrunningoutallofasuddenwhenIhavebeenusingthesameprogramsfor
overayearjustfine?
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[] Sinfulchristmas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldhopeonlycoincidence,butinrealityitwasprobablyMicrosofttryingtogetyoutoswitch.MyWindows7
machinewithonlyagigofRAMrunsprettywellthough.MaybeyouhadmalwareandWindows10automatically
removedit(alongwithallofthoseCPUmonitoringprogramssomepeoplehad)
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[] commitpushdrink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sactuallyjusthowcomputerswork.Eachsoftwareupdateisalittlebitbiggerbecausethenewhardwarecanhandleit.Ifyou
reallywantthatoldlaptoptobeasfastasitwasthedayyouboughtityouneedtorevertallyoursoftwaretotheversionsthatwere
designedforthathardware.
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[] Wootery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'tagoodsummaryofthebehaviourofpatches.
revertallyoursoftwaretotheversionsthatweredesignedforthathardware
Butthatsoftwareisn'tactuallydesignedwithyourspecifichardwareinmind.
You'rerightthattheadditionoffeaturescanslowthingsdownthough.Windowsisterribleforthis:updateafterupdatebloatitoutto
somethinglike70GB,whichisanabsurdsize.
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[] Morgan_Freemans_Mole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imeanthat'ssortofinevitable.Newerupdatesaremadeformorepowerfulphones,itstandstoreasonthatthey'lldecrease
performanceonanoldphone.
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[] LitPixel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenthoseupdatedshouldn'tbemadeavailableforthosephonesoryoushouldbeabletoreverttoanolderversionofsoftware.
Applehascompletecontrolofwhichoperatingsystemwillrunonwhichdevices.
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Youalsohavetotalcontroltonotupdate.Also,Appledoescutoffupdates.iPhone4doesnotruniOS9.Theydothat
becauseitwouldcompromiseperformancetoomuch.
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Rightbuthowisausersupposedtoknowthatanupdateisgoingtomaketheirphoneaworthlesspieceofjunk?
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Theycoulddoresearch.
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[] KarlPlays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,yea,you'renotforcedtoupdateyourphonetheyreleasenewphoneswithbetterhardware,they'renotgoingtokeepreleasing
softwareforiPhone3'swhentheiPhone6isout,that'slikesaying"Gamesarepurposefullygettinghardertorunbecausethe
companieswantmetobuybetterhardwaretobuythem,it'saconspiracybetweenmanufacturersanddevelopers!!"
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[] PandavengerX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItmakessensebecausethenewerOSisprobablybuilttorunonbetterhardwareinthefirstplace.
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StockAndroidactuallyhasreducedsystemrequirementsinnewerupdates...
TheHPtouchpadcanrunMarshmallowsmoothly(itisunstablebutperformanceisactuallyasgoodifnotbetterthanearlierroms).
ThatdeviceneverofficiallyreleasedwithandroidandisrunningTegra2whichisnearly4.5yearsoldatthispoint...
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It'sactuallyamixofplannedobsolescenceandhardwarenotbeinguptoparwiththenewestupdates.Newsoftwaredoesn'trunas
smoothonoldhardware.
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[] riders994 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,becauseofhowappdevelopmentscalesiniOS(andothermobileplatforms).It'sjusteasiertowritea"bigger"appasan
updatethanacleanlyupdatedone,especiallywhentheOSupdateprovidesadditionalfunctionalitythatyouneedtotake
advantageof.It'satoughworldforappdeveloperswhohavetostayaheadofsecurity,iOSupdates,andalsofixbugs,allwhile
keepingthecodeneat.
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[] Lehk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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it'seitherincompetenceormalice,itisnotjustthenaturalorderofthings.
myPCrunssmootherwithwindows10thanitdidwith7whichransmootherthanwindowsXP.myBlackberryperformsbetterand
hasmuchbetterendurancewith10.3thanitdidwhenigotitwith10.0or10.1(can'trememberwhich)
it'sjustappleandandroidthatturntoshitovertime,andappledoessofarworsethanandroid.
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[] aswecirclethedrain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheconspiracyisinhowtheydonotrequireanentireOSupdatetomaketheimprovementsmostiDeviceuserswant.Everytime
anOSupdatehitswegetaflashlightoranewappwedon'tneed.AlmostnothingtheyimproveeveryactuallyREQUIRESafull
systemsoftwareupgrade.
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[] covrig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MaybeIamstupidforsayingthisbutIshouldbeallowedtodowngrademyOSifIseethatitslowsdownmydevice.
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Iwouldactuallyinclinetoagreewithyou.ButIwouldimagineit'seasierforphonesystems,cellcompanies,andeventech
supportwhenallphonesarerunningthesameexactsamesoftware.Iwouldimagineitbemessyanddifficulttodealwithan
iPhone4srunningoriginalsoftwarewhileatthesametimeknowhowtofixordealwithissuesonthenewestupdatestoo.
TechsupportandITdepartmentswouldbothhavetomorethandoubleinsizesoitdoesn'tmakeatonofbusinesssense.
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[] Traveledfarwestward undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
LimitedQAbudget,itdoesn'tpayextratokeepnewiOSversionsworkingonoldequipment,andnotmanyupwardlymobile
ambitiousanddrivenemployeeslikeworkingonlastyear'sproduct,everyonewantsinonthenewgear.
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[] LUCKERD0G undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JokesonthemIdon'tevenhaveroomfortheupdatesonmy4s8gig
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[] crommo99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
C'moneveryone.Wecanalladmitwejustlearnedthewordobsolescencedespitemostofusknowingthewordobsolete.
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[] zzoyx1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhichismainlywhyafteracertainpointIdon'tupdatemyphone,andmyiPhone5from3.5yearsagorunsprettyflawlesslyminus
aslowfacebookapp
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Yousir,areasmartman.
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[] Venerable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswastruealltheway?Isitpossibleit'snot?
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[] ThePrevailer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hardwarenotbeinguptoparwiththenewestupdates.
Whichispartoftheplannedobsolescence.ThishappenedtomeafewyearsagowhenIwastryingtobuymyselfaused"screw
aroundonthecouch"ipad.
FirstgenerationipadHavetoupgradetoios8toinstallWordswithFriendsCan'tupdatetoios8becauseitdoesn'thavea
compatiblegyroscopeorsomethingipadincapableofrunningvirtualscrabble.
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[] j0llyllama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SowhynotallowyoutorollbacktoanOSthatwasproperlyfunctioning(afterthatlockoutwindow)?Obsolescence.
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Theydoallowyoutonotinstallupdates.
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[] j0llyllama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyWifesiPad2(theonefromlike2011orso)wasabletoinstall8.1.Whenitdid,itwastechnicallycapableofrunning
it,butitwassuchadrainthattheprocesseswouldtakeforever.Itnowtakesabout30secondsorsojusttoloadany
webpage,andtheonlychangeistheOS.AllapplicationsontherearefacingasimilarproblemjustbecausetheOSnow
usessomuchoftheinternalprocessing/RAMthatitleaveslittleelseforapplicationstoutilize.
Theydon'tstopyoufrominstallingupdatesifitwillgimpyourdevice,onlyifyourdeviceactuallycanNOThandleit.
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[] Xskills undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlannedObsolescencemaybeabyproductfromoptimizingnewerhardware.MyschoolusesaMacMiniforlocalbroadcastgrade
newsproductionwhichincludesrenderinggraphicsoveragreenscreenANDencodingthevideofrommultiplefeedatthesame
time.PartofApple'ssuccesswithgettingawaywithsellinginferiorhardwareforthepricehasbeenmakingsoftware(both1stand
3rdparty)worksmoothlyononlyslightlyaboveentrylevelSKU's.
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[] SixPackAndNothinToDo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andasofthemostrecentupdate,AppleisgivingolderdevicesapaireddownversionofthelatestOS,tocombatslowness.
Though,withanysmartphone,youcan'texpectittolastmorethanafewyearsanyway.Technologicalinnovationmovestoofastto
makesupportingolddevicesaviablestrategy.
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Thankyou.Myinboxblewupwithpeoplenotunderstandingthat.Itisn't100%greed,somuchasitmakeszerobusiness
sensetosupportolddevices.Ifthat'swhattheyspenttheirtimedoing,wewouldn'thavesweetnewdeviceseveryyear.
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[] Psimitry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TellthattoWindows10.Itoftenrunsbetteronolderlowendhardwarethantheversionitcamewith.
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[] Boden2005 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sobasicallyexactlywhathesaid?
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Notatall.I'drathernotdiveintospecifics,butthesecompaniesdon'thavethetimeandmoneytosupportoldsystemsand
stillbethecompaniesthatputsoutcoolnewgadgetseveryyear.It'snotaconspiracy,it'sawellknownbusinesspracticeto
notsupportolderdevices.Asin,everyonedoesit.So,exactlytheoppositeofwhathesaidactually.
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[] ModsAreCuntz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButalsoAppleisfuckingyou.
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[] bsimms16 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyou'resayingifIdon'tupdatemyphonetothelatestsoftwarethenmyphonewillrunsmootherforlonger?
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Thatisexactlythepoint.Theirhardwareisalwayssubparevenafterthehugepremiumtheycharge.Whichissuchtokeeptherich
upgradingeverytwoyears.
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Thepointwashethinksit'saconpiracy.It'snot.WhichIthenexplained.It'salsoawellknownandacceptedbusiness
practice.Thesecompaniescan'tfinanciallykeepsupportingolddevicesandsoftware,andkeepbringingsomuchinnovation
tothemarket.It'ssmartbusiness.
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[] PlNKERTON undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhonestlybelieveSamsungdidthiswiththeirphones.Whywouldtheyforcesoftwareonanolderdevicethatmakesitworse?
Betteryet,sinceit'ssoeasytodothisandgetpeopletoupgrade,whywouldn'ttheydoit?
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[] ijustwantanfingname undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotreallytruethough.Unlessyou'readdingfeatures,newersoftwareshouldbefaster....shortofabugfixresultinginlower
efficiency.ThisiswhyAndroidisfasterwitheachupdate.Googledoesn'tturnaprofitbyforcingpeopleintobuyingnewhardware
Appledoes.
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[] ArguablyHappy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notwiththatattitude.
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Ifthiswasthecase,that8bitguywouldn'thavebeenabletoshowa10yearoldMacbookrunningbetterasaWindowsmachine
thanasanAppleone.
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[] Organharv3st undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mstillusingaiPhone4(don'twanttogiveupunlimiteddataforanupgrade)andnotevena4s!Itstillseemsjustasfastasmy
wife'siPhone6.
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[] nowgetbacktowork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OksoI'mnotcrazy?MyphoneisactuallyshittierthanwhenIgotitanditisn'tjustmyskewedperceptionbasedonthenewer
modelscomingout?
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[] oksoithought undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oncenewhwspecsarefinalizedsoftwareisgivennewstandardsfordevelopingunder.Itsjuststandardpractice.
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[] Paiste402 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Iwantmorefeatures,popupoptions,swipeupquickaccessoption,menuanimations,allnewgraphicsathigherresolutions."
"Wait,ittakesmorecpuandgputodothis??APPLEISASCAMCOMPANY"
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[] salbris undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismakesperfectsense.LookatChromevsInternetExplorer.ThelatestversionofChromeisfullysupportedonWindowsXP
anddependingonyourhardwareonLinux.Yet,MicrosoftdoesnotallowIE9orsoonoldersystems.
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[] Bcasturo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIneverupdatemyphoneforthisreason
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[] maximaldingus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhokayAppleemployee
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[] MajorKnuckleTurd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhattheywantustothink..
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[] Populo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoIforgetwhereIsawitbutthere'sapparentlyalawaboutnewfeaturesonolddevices.ForexampleSiricouldhaveeasilybeen
addedtotheiPhone4andbelow.Itwasdonewithajailbreakrelativelyquickly.Itmadetheentirephoneevenslowerthanitalready
wasbutitwasdefinitelypossible.ButthelawstatedthatApplecouldn'tputitontheolddevicesorsomething.I'lltrytofindit.
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[] 1s2_2s2_2p2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusedtothinkthatway,butyearsofcynicismchangeaman.Inolongerdrinkthatkoolaid.
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[] HyssopMP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NicetryApple.Asifwewouldbelievethat!Ppffttt
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[] MetalGearFlaccid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
My6+runslikeabsoluteshitoniOS9.0andtakesforevertoopenthecameraapp.TheoriginaliPhone,onlaunchday,opensits
cameraappfasterthanmine.It'sbullshitfakeloadingtime.
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[] needtobeproductive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButmyiPhone6isstillareallygoodphone.Itshouldn'tlag.Isn'tthatwhatthepointwasofthe64bitprocessor?
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[] OogoniuM undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'tappleusetostopnewupdatesonolderhardwarebeforetheiphone?IseemtorememberthisbutmaybeI'moffmyrockera
bit
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Whatphonedidapplehavebeforetheiphone??TheiPhonewasthefirsttruesmartphone.Idon'trememberanyphones
OS'sneedingupdatesbeforetheiphone.
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[] OogoniuM undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iPodtouchhadfirmwareanddifferenthardwareversions....ActuallyeveryiPodwasthatway.Butthetouchwastheone
withdrasticchangesbetweenmodels
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[] LiquidTurbo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowmuchmorecomplicatedarethenewiOSstoruncomparetosayiOS5?Thehardwareisverypowerful.Yetstillthesoftware
lags.Why??
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[] mrsaturn42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkitwouldbecoolifAppleallowedoldermodelstolikefreezeupdates/revertonceyourdeviceis2yrsorolder.Maybeonlylet
securityrelatedupdatestopropagate.
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[] SaltyBabe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichitcouldiftheywantedtoputintheextratimeandeffortwhenmakingtheupdates,theyjustdon't.
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Timeandeffortarebigfactorsyesbutthebigoneismoney.ItdoesntmakebusinesssenseforAppleorSamsungor
whoevertosacrificetheirbudgettowardssupportingoldhardwarewhentheycanputittowardsnewdevelopmentsand
innovationinthemarkettokeepdrivingphonesales.
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[] CogginsCannon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenexplainhowWindows10canrunonan8yearoldsinglecorePC,alongwithmillionsofothercomputersofeverypossible
combinationofparts,butApplecan'tmakesuretheirOSrunsfineon1or2ofthesameexactdevice?
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[] SystmDown717 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Appleexecutivedetected!
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[] gaussweiss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ishouldn'tneedallthatRAMandshittotakeselfiesandpostthemonFacebook.
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thenwhyarethoseupdatesavailableinthefirstplace?
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[] mikeash undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nothingaboutnewsoftwarerequiresittorunassmoothonoldhardware.Foraboutadecade,MacOSXgotfasteronthesame
hardwarewitheachnewrelease.
What'shappeninghereissimplythatAppleisn'tputtingintheeffortneededtomakethathappenanymore,probablybecause
they'vecommittedthemselvestopushingoutamajorupdateeverysingleyearandtheycanbarelykeepup.
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That'sexactlywhatishappening.Butthat'salsowhatallowsthemtobeatopinnovatorandtopsellingphoneeachyear.
Theywouldhavetomakesomesacrificestheretokeepsupportingoldsoftware,whichmakesnobusinesssenseforthem.
Othercompaniesthatmodelmayworkforbutthat'snotwhatAppleisabout.Innovationandmovingforward,that'swhatthe
biggestphonecompaniesareabout.
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Whosaidanythingaboutsupportingoldsoftware?
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Mymistake.Shouldhavesaidhardware.
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IhaveaniPhone6+that'snotevenayearold.CertainpartsofiOS9arealreadyslowasshitonit.That's
notoldhardwarethey'refailingtosupportthere.
Andthethingis,doingthesoftwarerightwouldmakeitbetteronthelateststufftoo.BackwhenMacOSX
wasgettingfasterwitheveryrelease,thatmeantthatnotonlywasitgoodonoldhardware,butitpositively
flewifyouboughtthelatest.It'sgoodforeveryone.
I'mnotaskingAppletoputinspecialefforttosupportoldhardware,IjustwishApplewouldslowdowntheir
releasescheduleabitsotheycanstopreleasingOSesthatareterriblyslowandfullofbugs.
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[] sdegutis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?Askingagoodol'Americancorporationtoputtheircustomer'sinterestsaheadofshaving
costs?That'scrazytalk!
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[] bobnojio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahbutmostpeopletesttheirupdatesonallofthenonendoflifehardwareandreleaseappropriateversionsforeachhardware
set,ratherthanfuckingoldphoneswiththenewOS
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[] SupremeDictatorPaul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Newsoftwaredoesn'trunassmoothonoldhardware.
Thisisn'tarequirementthough.EverynewversionofWindowssinceVistahasrunbetteronoldhardwarethantheprevious
version.ForApple'siOS,theycouldprovideswitchestoturnoffnewfeaturesinthesoftwareanditwouldtheoreticallyrunjustas
fastonoldhardwareastheoldsoftwaredoes.IownedacoupleofiPhonesstaringatthe2ndmodelandwithintwomajorrevisions
thesoftwarewouldbeslowenoughtomakethedevicetoofrustratinglyslowtouse,withoutaddinganyfeaturesthatImadeuseof.
Iamaproponentofthisconspiracytheory.
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[] exp0wnster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Newsoftwareoftenismoreefficientaspeoplehavebetterdesigns,
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[] God_IDisposable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,unlessyouelaborate.Icallbullshit.
Disclosure:Iamasoftwaredeveloper.
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It'sactuallyamixofplannedobsolescenceandhardwarenotbeinguptoparwiththenewestupdates.
Appleneedstoplantheir"plannedobsolescence"thingbetter,though.IhaveaniPhone4that,whileitdoesn'trunthecurrentiOS,
stillworksfineasaminiiPadonwifi.Anddownstairs,IhaveanAppleMacfromthe'90sthatIstillusetoplaygamesonOS9.Still
goingstrongafteralltheseyears!
Soyeah,theymightnotrunthecurrentOS,butApplebuildstheirdevicestolast.
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[] Takeabyte undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right?It'sanabsoluteshamewhenIhavetorecycleafullyfunctionaliMacallbecausethenewOSandothersecurity
programswon'trunonit.
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Useitforsomethingelse!
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Forwhat?They'renotcompatiblewithanything.Applelikestoencouragetheirthirdpartydeveloperstoonlymake
stuffworkonthesupportedOS'(thatmeans10.8+)soit'sveryhardandannoyingtosupportthem.Needtogeta
newiPhone(orforcedtoupgradetheiOSduetoarepair)?Welltoughshitifyou'reon10.7or10.6.Andwe're
talkingaboutcomputersthataren'teventhatold.LioncameoutonlyfouryearsagoandApplehascompletely
droppedsupportforit.That'snuts!Thisannualupgradebullshitisonlyhurtingusers.Theirsnotevenintroducing
thingsthatareevenclosetorevolutionaryanymoreforOSX.It'sjustnewpaintjobandafewbellsandwhistles
thatmostpeopledon'tgiveafuckabout.
Sobacktothewhole"Appledoesn'tmakeyouupgrade"bullshit,mostpeoplehavenochoiceeveniftheyhavea
lessthanthreeyearoldMac.
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Sobacktothewhole"Appledoesn'tmakeyouupgrade"bullshit,mostpeoplehavenochoiceevenif
theyhavealessthanthreeyearoldMac.
Kittendaddy's2010MBPisstillrunningandrunsthelatestversionofOSXElCapitan.So...yeah.
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[] EconomistMagazine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoOP'sconsipracytheoryiscompletelytrue,justinaroundaboutway.
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[] GruntyGunner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'strue,butonceyouupdateAppleblocksyoufromdowngrading,sothereisSOMETHINGgoingon.
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[] astronautdinosaur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisiswhyI'veneverupdatedmyiphone.Stillworksgreatsofar
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thesoftwarehasbeenessentiallythesamesincethefirstiOS.Itjustlooksalittlemoreminimalistnow.
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Whateveryousay,Steve.
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[] blacksun2012 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yettheyforceyoutoupdate.
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[] ahaanc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
that'sexactlywhattheyWANTyoutothink...
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[] TheBellmanHimself undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Perfectbackwardscompatibilityatleast2generationsbackcouldbeincludedwithnegligibleeffortbutisn't.There'snothinginiOS
updatesthatoutandoutrequiresthatmuchmoreprocessingpower.
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[] camilos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthat'strue,whyisitmostglaringwithiPhonesandnotandroidphones?Suretheyalsoslowdownbutneverasdrasticallyas
iPhones.MainreasonIswitchedactually.
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[] YourPassportNumber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Appledon'tforceyoutoupdatethough.AndAndroiduserscomplainthattheirhandsetdoesn'tgetanupdaterightawaywhena
newAndroidversioncomesout(ortheycomplainthattwoyearsontheydon'tgetanupdateatall).Applestillsupportstheir
handsetsfouryearson.Iftheyheldbackallnewfeaturesonoldphonespeoplewouldcomplain,butiftheytriedgivingallthenew
featurestooldphonesthentheywouldn'trunproperly.Appleisdamnediftheydoanddamnediftheydon't.ButforAndroidusers
whodon'tgetthenewJellyBeanorwhateverfortheirtwoyearoldhandsettheyarejustdamned.
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Appledon'tforceyoutoupdatethough.
Theykindofdothough.TakeyouriPhoneinforserviceandthefirstthingtheywilldoisupdateyouriOS,thenevenifthey
knowit'shardwareandyouhavetogetthephoneswappedithasthenewiOS.
OrhowaboutonOSXwhentheythroughnewOS'sinthesamepageasregularsoftwareupdates?That'sabitconfusingfor
thevastmajorityofusers.
Appleisdamnediftheydoanddamnediftheydon't.
TheproblemisnotthattheydoupdatetheirOSeveryyear.Theproblemisthattheydon'tfixanythingforthelastversion.
Meaningthatit'simpossibletostayoniOS7andalsogetsecurityupdates.
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[] Synexis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butyoucan'tdowngradeiOS,soupdatesarealwaysagamble.
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[] TheHappyClown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NicetryApple
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[] thunder_doughm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichiswhymodularphoneswouldbeuseful.Processorcan'thandletheupdate?Replacetheprocessorwithoutgettinganew
phone.
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[] Magner3100 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,Idunnoifthisisreallyaconspiracysomuchasjustacceptedmarketpractices.
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Exactly,thankyou
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[] untitleddocument37 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yabutwhy?Doesyournewsmsappdoanythingthatexplainsitbeingslower?
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[] BlackHayze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No....Ireallyhopeyoudon'tactuallythinkanOSupdateonlyupdatestheSMSapp.
Idon'tbelieveyouactuallythinkthat,butifyoudo,justtakealookatthereleasenotesforiOS9orAndroidMarshmellow.
Hundredsuponhundredsofnewfeaturesareadded.Theyareallmadetoworkonthelatesthardware,soofcourse
hardwarefromthreeyearsagowon'tworkwithallthemodernadvancementsandconnectivitythatisconstantlybeingadded
toourphones.
Canthecompaniesdobetter?Maybe.Butiftheyslowyourphonedownyoubuyanewone.Buttheyarenotonlyupdating
theSMSapp.Far,farfromit.
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That'skindathepointthough.UnlessyourunanappthatusesthenewOSfeaturesyoushouldn'tbeimpactedbyit's
bloat.
Likesince4.2Linuxsupportsamdgpudevicesbutifyoudon'thaveoneofthoseAMDGPUs...thedriverdoesn'tload
andtakespaceinmemory.Imaginethat.
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[] jb_in_jpn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecounterargumentwouldsimplybethere'smoregoingoninthe"background"(operatingsystemwiseetc.),andtherefore
that'spullingtheappdown.Whetherthisisreallymeasurablyofeffectornot,ofcourse...
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[] Cproo12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallyyes.TalkingiOShere,sayyouinstalliOS9.1onaniPhone5(whichwasoriginallybuiltforwhat,iOS6or
something?),anyways,thenewiOS7updatekindafuckedeverythingoverwithalltheblureffectsusedacrosstheOS,
becausetheyusedalotofGPUresourcestorendertheimagebelowtheblurredpart.Theytriedtoimprovethisinother
updates,kindahelped,notmuch.
Anywayspertainingtothemessagesapp,itnowtriestosyncwithallyourotheriClouddevicesifyouhaveany,themessage
bubblesareconstantlychangingcolor(darkblue>lightbluegradientfrombottomtotop)blurinthetopbar,thenewwayof
sendingimagesandvideoswhichkeepsthecamerareadyforusewhenyouholdthecameraicon,therearealotofmore
thingsunderthehoodtoobutIdon'twanttotalkaboutthembecauseIamnotveryknowledgeableinthesubject.
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[] Paremo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofthatyoushouldbeallowedtoturnoff.Youareallowedtoturnoffthetransparentwindowbordersinwin7with
probablydozensoftimesthegpupowerlyingaround.FuckApple.
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[] FormulaJuanRacer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.Iagreewithyou100%.Theexcusethatolderphonesweren'tmeanttoruniOS(new#here)aswellisn'tfair
topeoplewhoowntheolderphones.Hell,GooglestillhasoldnexusphonesthatrunKitKatandearlyversionsof
Lollypop.Itdoesn'tmakesensetostressoldphoneswithnewstringentsoftware.It'sallabigmoneymaking
scam.Theycouldeasilykeepoldsoftwareonolderphonesandthenwhenyouwantedtoupgradeyougotnew
softwareandanewphone.Insteadtheybasicallymakephoneslastaboutayearthenmakethemsoftware
heavy.IdonthateAppleasawhole,buttheiriPhonesystemisignorant.ThisisthewholereasonIstoppedusing
thephones.
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[] Cproo12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcanturnofftransparencyinsettings,youcanalsoturnoffhoweverythingmoveslikethebackgroundwhen
tiltingyourphoneetc.
Itsallthere,itsjustthatnobodyknowsaboutit.
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[] Roboticide undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tpickAppleifyouwantcustomization.They'rewaytooinvestedinhavingaconsistentlookandturning
somefeatureoffjustdoesn'tdoitforthem.
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(someonementionedthatyoucanturntheglasseffectoff,Ican'tconfirmordenythat)
Inthisparticularcase,customizationanddevicelifespandirectlycorrelate.Whenitcomestolaptops,the
latterissomethingthatpeoplepickApplefor.
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You'recomparingapplesandwindowshere,bub
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[] SteylYurin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youseemedknowledgeableenough,mate
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[] reacher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itcouldrequiremoreresources(memory,CPU)torun
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[] Shadowhawk109 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,butwhy?Whatfundamentallychangedbetween"apptoreadsms"and"apptoreadsms"?
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[] dkjb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatfundamentallychangedbetweenWindows3.1andWindows7?TheOSdoesthesamebasicthings,but
withsomeaddeddoodadsandvisualeffects.Thoseextrafeaturesconsumealotofsystemresources.Ifyou
wantamoreresponsivesystem,youcanchoosenottoupgradeyourOS,butitappearsthatmostpeoplefindthe
tradeofffavorable.
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[] Shadowhawk109 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol...no.
SecurityandincorporationofsecurityfeaturesskyrocketeduponintroductionoftheInternetsee:theNT
kernel,Windows2000,XP,andtheServicePacks.
Hell,Windows95introducedtheRecycleBin,IIRC.AndeitherXPorNT/2000introducedthedifference
betweenFAT32andNTFS.
ButthatisonanOSlevel.
We'recomparingevolutionofacoreappwithintheOS,andifyouaskmewhathaschangedwith,say,VLC
fromWindowsXPtoWindows10,I'dbehardpressedforananswer.
BecausethoseappsarenotdependentoncoreOSchanges.
WhichiskindofthedirectionGoogleistryingtopushbyseparatingappsfromtheOSoverall.Conversely,
theygetflackfor"OSseparation",butthatDOESresultinhavingSOMEdeviceshavefullfunctionality,
albeitlesssupportandsecurity.
ComparethattowrappingappandOStogether,andyougetthecomplainsabout"slowdowns"fromApple.
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[] dkjb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowareyougoingtonitpickfilesystemdifferencesbuthandwaveallofthechangestoMessagesas
"apptoreadsms"?MMSsupportwasn'tintroduceduntiliOS3.iMessagecamewithiOS5.iOS8
addedsupportforaudioandvideomessages.
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Why?WhatisyourSMSappdoingnowthatitdidn'tdobeforethatexplainstheresourcechanges?SMSisafixed
protocol.Asidefrompossiblyaddingnewerlanguagebitmaps/normalizationswhatexplainsit?Ohya,moreOSlayer
cruft.
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[] LooneyDubs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Moreimportantly,whydoyouneedtoupdatesoftwarethatworksperfectlyfineonyourphone?Ifit'sanupdateitshouldbe
perfectlycompatiblewithitsolderversionwhileaddingafewnewfeatures,right?It'sascam.Appleswholebusinessmodel
forcesyoutomoveuptheproductlineasthecompanyreleasesit.That'snotatheory,it'swellestablished.
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[] workaway5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.I'mstillusingaGalaxyS3.Everythingworksfine,andIactuallyturnedthedownloadmanageroffsoitcan't
downloadanyupdatesornewsoftwarewithoutmegoingoutofmywaytoallowit.Noissuessofar.
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[] Hoser117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'masoftwaredeveloperandyoushouldknowwedespisepeoplethatdon'tdoupdates.Supportingold
browsers/operatingsystemsiseasilyoneofthemostfrustratingpartsofthejob.
Updatingsoftwareisimportantasitmakessuretheappsyourunhavethesupportofnewfeatures/API's/etc.thatallow
developerstowritebetter/cleaner/morefeaturerichcode/applications.Notperformingupdatesjustmeansyou'regetting
theslightlyshittier,slightlymorehackedtogetherversionsofwhateversoftwareyoufeellikerunningbecausewhatever
nonupdatedOS/Browser/whateveryou'rerunningisold.
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Supportingoldbrowsers/operatingsystemsiseasilyoneofthemostfrustratingpartsofthejob.
Toughcookies...Oldhardwarecan'truneverynewpieceofsoftware.IbrokemyS5recentlyandamusinganold
LGL9untiltheysendmeanewS5.Itcan'thandlethenewestOSsoIcan'tDLeveryapp.Can'tgetgoogle
cardboardappeventhoughIjustgotoneofthestarwarspromocardboardsandwanttocheckitout.Idcthough
becausethephoneworksfineforwhatitisontheoldsoftware.
Updatingisimportantasitmakessuretheappsyourunhavethesupportofnewfeatures/API's/etc.thatallow
developerstowritebetter/cleaner/morefeaturerichcode/applications.
Right.That'sthepoint.Ifyourhardwarecan'thandlethefullbetter/cleaner/morefeaturerichcode/applications
thendon'tforcemetodlit,andsubsequentlyforcemetobuynewhardware.It'sascam.
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[] Inoffensiveparadox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly,Unlesstheupdateisnecessarytocontinueprovidingservicetothephone(whichIhighlydoubtaphonewill
suddenlybeunabletousetelephonesignalsand4Gcapabilityovertime)thenthesoftwareshouldbedesignedforthe
deviceandupdatestothatdeviceshouldbeparticularlyforthatdevice.
Noneofthis"Ohwe'reupdatingyourphonessoftware...tothenextgenerationssoftware!butbtwyourphoneisn't
hardwarecapableforthesoftwareandwillbeauselessshortlivedpieceofshitinhalfayear.Don'tworrythough,our
newmodel(hint),yaknowtheonetheupdatesoftwarewasmeantfor?(hint,hint)Costs600$
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[] SIThereAndThere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Securitybugs
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Lolicloudhacks...areyoufuckingkidding?
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[] markyhoffman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nosoftwareisinvulnerabletohacking.Whosetosaythatthesecuritypatchesappleputouthaven't
stoppedanattemptedhackingattempt?
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Lolwat
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[] SanityInAnarchy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Moreimportantly,whydoyouneedtoupdatesoftwarethatworksperfectlyfineonyourphone?
Security.
ThebestexampleisactuallyonAndroid:"Stagefright"wasabugthatmeantitwastheoreticallypossibleforsomeoneto
takecontrolofyourphonebysendingyouatextmessage.(AnMMS,ifyouwanttobetechnicalaboutit.)Ifyoudon't
updateyourOS,you'revulnerabletoshitlikethat.
Inb4someonesays"ButIdon'thaveanythingworthstealingonmyphone!"Iguaranteeyoudo.Ifyou'relikemost
people,you'veenteredatonofcreditcardinfointoyourphone(atleastUber,say),you'vetakenatonofphotosand
hadatonofprivatetextconversationsthatyou'drathernotlose(orsharewiththeworld)leavingyouvulnerableto
ransomwareontwofronts,letalonetheNSAstealingyourdickpics.
Soifyou'vegotapendingiOSupdatethatyou'renotinstallingbecauseit'sascam,youmightwanttorethinkthat.
Infact,IcallbullshitonApplebeingmotivatedbyplannedobsolescencehere.Iftheyreallywantedtodoplanned
obsolescence,they'dfollowtheleadofmostAndroidmanufacturersbynotreleasingupdatesatall,forcingyoutobuya
newphoneeverytwoyearsjusttostaysecure.It'snotlikeAppleishavingtroublesellingnewphones.
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Icloudhacks...you'relooking,right?
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IguessIwastryingtoheadoffcriesof"ButI'mnotJLaw,noonewouldwanttoseemydickpicks!"
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[] Kinderschlager undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
immajustleavethisherethen....https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=NVAmnV65_zw&list=FL28Gdx7t_uzuJmhukdCLZLA&index=33
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[] PostHipsterCool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Securitypatches.Andifyou'regoingtowonderwhyApplecan'tjustreleasedasecuritypatchasastandaloneinstead
ofrequiringyoutoupdatetheentirelynewoperatingsystem,thenyou'veneverdonesoftwaredevelopment.Itwould
justbetoocumbersomeandunrealistic,especiallybecausesomanysoftwareexploitsrelyuponintricaciesofan
operatingsystem.
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[] rwsrxrx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Moreimportantly,whydoyouneedtoupdatesoftwarethatworksperfectlyfineonyourphone?Ifit'sanupdateit
shouldbeperfectlycompatiblewithitsolderversionwhileaddingafewnewfeatures,right?
ThisisthecaseexceptforthelargeandgrowingpopulationofsoftwarethatreliesonexternalservicesviaAPIs.When
thoseupstreamAPIsarechanged,theversionyourappisemittingorexpectingtotalkto,mayhavechangedorno
longerexist.
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[] aToiletSeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoaheadandinstallWindows7onacomputerthatpreviouslyranWindows95.I'llwaithereforyourreport.
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Thisisaridiculouscomparison.Windows95toWindows7wasahellofalotlongerthanthetimebetween
iDeviceiterationsthatcanbeeffectivelybrokenbyasoftwareupdate.
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[] Tactical_Moonstone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,Windows95(MSDOS)hasacompletelydifferentoperatingsystemarchitecturethanWindows7
(WindowsNT)
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Ontheotherhand,goandinstallwindows10onacomputerthatwaspreviouslyrunningwin7andyou'llmost
likelybejustfine(keyboardandtouchpaddriverswithsomenotebookvendorsbeingoneexception).
7to8or10shouldbemoresimilarifyouconsiderwhenandoverwhattimeframetheseupdatesoccured.
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Icaneasilysendanemailfromacomputerthatruns7toonethat'son98.
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[] aToiletSeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatthefuckdoesthishavetodowithWindows7runninglikeabsoluteassonoldhardware...?
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Bythatlogic,mycommodore64shouldrunwindows10perfectlysinceitisonlyaddingnewfeatures,right?
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No.
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Mypointexactly
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[] TheCodexx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sareasonApplepushesthe"updateyourphones"thingsohard.Actually,acouplereasons:
TheyknowAndroidcannevergetthesamekindofspeedyupdatestoallhardware.Applecontrolstheirentire
ecosystemandallthedrivers,makingittrivialtosupportslightlyolderdevices.Additionally,theydon'thave
obligationstosupportanolderOSorhardwareorsoftwaretheway,say,Microsoftdoes.Theyjustcutout
whateverdoesn'tworkoristoomuchefforttomaintain.
Appleknowstheycanusestatisticslikethisasamarketingclaim.
Appleknowsthattheycanjustsayupdatesarenecessarybecauseof"security"reasons,andcanadditionally
usethistomarketiOSas"moresecure",eventhoughit'sonlyremotelysecurebecausetheydevelopboth
hardware&softwareandhavespentyearsclosingexploitsandcontrollingwhatyoucaninstall.Theplatformisn't
secure,theroutesleadingtoitare(mostly).
Inshort,theycanpromotetheideathatyouneedthelatest&greatestsoftware.Appdeveloperswillgoalongwithit,
becausetheyhavetosupportthenewestversionsandoftenneedtodosomanuallyoniOS.Additionally,theycanplay
uptheideathatolderversionsareinsecureorinferior,andusetheircompetitors"fragmentation"againstthem,even
thoughit'smostlyanonissueandsomepeoplemayevenpreferolderversionsofAndroidorWindows.
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[] geekrot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iconcur,myipad2iscompletelyworthlessforwebbrowsingafterupdates.Safaritakesforevertoloadapage,Apple
reallywantsyoutoupgradeandtossyourolddeviceinalandfillIguess.
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[] lajiggyjarjardoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowdoyouexpectanAndroidtabletfromearly2011toperform?Thewebisalotmoredemandingnow,too.
ApplesupportstheirhardwaremuchlongerthanmostvendorsandyoustillblameApplewhenyour4.5yearold
deviceisslow.
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[] drinkit_or_wearit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Appleswholebusinessmodelforcesyoutomoveuptheproductlineasthecompanyreleasesit.
Youmisspelled"everyphonecompany".
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Now,yes.Butthat'sallbasedoffofApple'sbusinessmodel.
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[] N1ghtshade3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottrue.LookatagraphofAndroidversionadoptionratesandyou'llseethatamassivenumberofusersarea
generationortwobehind.That'snotatallthecasewithiOSwherenewversionsarepickedupbyprettymuch
everyonealmostimmediately.
My4thgeniPodtouchisuselessbecauseIcan'tupdatepast6.xandeveryappItrytodownloadtellsmeIneed
7.x,8.x,etc.I'mrunningAndroid4.3onmyGalaxyS5andeventhoughthey'rerollingout6.0,I'veneverruninto
anappthattellsmeIneedahigherOSversion.OneofthemanyreasonsIpreferAndroid.
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[] lajiggyjarjardoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'stheappdeveloper'sfault,notApple.That'slikeblamingMicrosoftbecausetheSpotifyAppdoesn't
workonWindows98.
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[] N1ghtshade3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snobody'sfaultit'sduetothefactthattheAndroidOSisrunacrosssomanydifferentmodelsby
dozensofdifferentcompanieswhileiOSisonlyavailableforthesamefew,allunderApple'scontrol.
SinceadoptionissohighonAppledevices,developersusuallytakeadvantageofthenewAPIand
disregardbackwardscompatabilitybecauseApplehascreatedanenvironmentinwhichuserswithout
thelatestandgreatesthardwarebecomeaminoritytheydon'tcareabout.
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[] PM_ME_UR_SHAVED_NUTS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
THIS.
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[] semvhu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlusApplepushesdeveloperstodropolderiOSversionsfornewappversionsastimegoeson.Thismeanspeople
witholderphoneseitherhavetoupgradeiOSversionsorbuyanewproduct.Plus,onthedevside,eventuallyXcode
(Apple'sSDK)requiresmorerecentversionsofOSX,forcingregularhardwareupgradesfordevelopers.Thewhole
thingisaviciousmonetarycycle.
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[] pr0grammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Apple'sactuallyreallygoodaboutsupportingolddevices,though.Theysupportmostmachinesmadesince2007
2008,andthenumberofpeopleusingnineyearoldMacsforiOSdevelopmentcan'tbeveryhigh.
KeepingeveryoneonthemostrecentOSisn'tasmuchacashgrabasitisgoodfortheiroverallecosystemsince
itmeansthatdeveloperscantargetthemostrecentAPIs.IftheyintroduceafeaturethatrequiresanewOS,
developerswillactuallyuseitsincetheyknowthatmostoftheiruserbasewillbeonthenewOS.Comparethatto
Android,whereonlyaquarterofusersareusingaversionfromthelastyearandalmosthalfareusingaversion
morethantwoyearsold.Developershavenobigincentivetousenewfeaturessinceit'llbeyearsbeforeeven
halfoftheirpotentialuserswillbeabletousethenewfeatures.
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Whatareyoutalkingabout?!?My2009iPodisunusableforyearsalthoughithassomespecscomparable
withsomerecentAndroidphones.Nothingworksonitanymore.Theymaydeclarethattheysupportitbut
evensomestockappsdon'tworkanymore.
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[] pr0grammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"ComparablewithrecentAndroidphones"?Ithasa600MHzsinglecorechipand256MBofRAM,the
samespecsastheiPhone3GS.CurrentiOSdevicesaresomethinglike20timesasfast,andyoucan
getaphonefor$30orsothat'salmostanorderofmagnitudefaster.
AsixyearoldPCisn'tterriblyobsolete,butasixyearoldmobiledeviceisutterlyancientsincethe
technologyissoyoungandthereforemovingsoquickly.
Iwasthinkingofthemorerecentdevices,e.g.iPhone4S:itjusthititsfourthbirthdayandlookslikeit's
goingtobegettingafifthyearofupdates,asopposedtomostAndroidphonesthataredroppedafter
twoyearsorless.
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Iagreewithyou.NeverthelesswearespeakingaboutaniPod.Playingmusicandbrowsingthe
internetshouldbeapieceofcakeforit...Notanymore.
Let'stakeanotherexample.MyIpad3isadisasteroniOS7,8,9.Itusetobeexcellentdevice
butthesoftware/OSupdatesmadeitlaggyandslow.Whycan'tIdowngradeagain?
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[] UndeadStormtroopers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Applealsohastoupdatetheirolderdevicestonewersoftwaretomaintaincompatibilitywithmostapps,and
theolderdevicesoftengetsuchneuteredversionsthatthesoftwareisn'tmuchbetterthanwhatit's
replacing(andisslower).I'dsaythat'sstillbetterthanandroid,butthey'rebothtakingdifferentapproaches.
Mostappssupportversionsallthewaybackto4.0,andsomeevenbeyondthat.
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[] f1zzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CurrentXcodebuildscan'ttargetpriortoios6
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[] UndeadStormtroopers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ImeantAndroidapps,whoops
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[] IAMASquatch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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You'reinterruptingareallygreatApplehatecirclejerk.Noonewantsreasonablethoughtsorinformation
here.
But,yes,ofcourse,you'reright.IhaveseveralolderiOSdevicesstillworking.Theupdatesdon'tcripple
things.
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[] chubbsw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youtwoshutyourcommiemouths!
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[] IAMASquatch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'masocialistsquatch.Notacommie.And,Ihavebeenknowntosassfromtimetotime.
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[] cockOfGibraltar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'tjusttomakeyoubuymoreitalsomeanslesssupportforoldergenerations.Supportingtheold
generationcostsmoney
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therealscamwithapplemobileproductsistheusing3040%ofthestoragefor"operatingsystem"andthennot
providinga30centmicroSDslotanda$0.50controller.
sadlyalotofAndroidphonesaregoingthatway[oralwayswere]....
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[] Tratix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcan'tbitchaboutappleandmicroSDslots.Thenewergalaxyphonesdon'tsupportthemeither.It'snotabout
tryingtoscrewthecustomeroverorbeinganevilcompany.
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[] Reveen_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwon'tbuyaphoneifitdoesn'thaveamicroSDslotandaremovablebattery.Ijustcancompromiseoneitherof
thosefeatures.Manypeoplecan,however,whichiswhytherearesomanyphoneswithouteither.
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[] TheFlyingBogey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyabovereasoniswhythe5CismylastiPhone,atleastIhopeso.MostphonecontractslockyouIto24
monthsthesedayssowhenIgetaniPhoneIhavetothink"intwoyearsareheygoingtomoreorlessbrickmy
phonewithanunnecessaryupdate?",whichofcourseisalwaysyes.
Addtothatthefactthatonly12out16GBofthephoneIpaidforisusable,andsomehowafter6monthsofputting
nothingnewonmyphonebesidesa50MBapp,I'velostanother1GB.Howthehellinthisageis816GBeven
nearlyenoughanyway?
Thesaddestthingthoughisthatafterallthis,I'llprobablybefoolenoughtogetthenextbigiPhoneagain,
becauseitalwayshappens.
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[] lakeweed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LOOOOLiOStakesup23GBatmost,onmyS4it'sover6forthebloated5.0.1I'mcurrentlystuckwith.
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Yabuteverytrivialbullshitmatchem'sgamestakes150MBofspace...
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[] UsernameOmitted undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sworthnotingthatcurrentgenerationphonecamerascanburstcapturesoquicklythattheyarebreaking
100MB/Sofdata.Usersoftenhavenoideaoftheserequirements,sotheybuycheapSDcardswhichlikelycan't
handlethestrenuousrequirementsoftheirhighendphone.Cloudstorageismakingexpandablememoryless
andlessofanecessity,andallofthesethingsincreasesize,whichisaprioritytoalwayskeepassmallas
possible.
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[] Ekrank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneplusxisunder$300us.Has64gigsandspaceforanSDcardupto(Ibelieve)128g.Alsohasmoreramand
betterprocessorandcamera.
WithphoneslikethisoutI'msurprisedpeoplepay$1000foraniphone
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[] noPENGSinALASKA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecauseidiotswillblamethephonewhentheSDcardgetswipedduetofailure.
Yeaithasnothingtodowiththeshiftyclass2128gigmicroSDcardyougotfor$3fromChina.Ittotallycorrupted
becauseit'sthephonesfault.
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[] churbronz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowwhybutwhenyouusedboth"30cent"and"$0.50"inthesamesentenceitreallybuggedmeandI
thoughtI'dletyouknow.
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"50cent"(tm)isaregisteredtrademark./s
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[] buzzkill_aldrin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...Youdorealizethat16GBis16billionbytes,whichisonly14.9gibibyteswhatiOSreportswhenit'sreporting
GBright?It'sbeenyearssinceanycompanyassertedthat1GBwasmorethan1billiongbytes.
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Flashmemorydoesn'tfollowSIunitsbecauseflashmemoryisbuiltusingpowersoftwotiles.Otherwise
you'rewastingaddressingbits.
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[] sammybeta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnyphonewithsdcardslotwillpayMicrosoftloyaltyfortheirpatent..MSismakingmoremoneyfromandroid
thanWindowsphones..
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OnlyiftheysupportFAT.I'mokwithAndroiddroppingFAT/exFATsupport.ext2/4thatshitupalready.
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[] sammybeta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hateitaswell,butstillnootherfilesystemcouldbeusedacrossalltheOSswhilewithacommercial
reasonableprice/motivation.Mswon'thavenativeextsupportright?
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[] jvi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iOSonlyuses1.5gb,whichisnowherenear30%evenforthe16gbmodel.
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[] wacrover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalsothinkyouriCloudbackupsincludethataspartofthebackuppackage,sowithmultipledevicesyoubasically
useupyourfreequotajustfromtheOS.
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[] lulz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
3040%ofthestorage
It'sactually20%ofthesmallestiPhones.
TherealstoragescamisthatthesmallestiPhonesarestill16gig,andtheycharge$100foreverytierofmemory
upgrade.
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[] DexterBotwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThefirstsmartphoneiboughtwasaniPhone.IwasreadytoswitchtoandroiduntilIrealizedtheystopped
providingSDslotsandremovablebatteries(somestilldobutnoneofthephonesIlikedhadthis).Thenthey
becameiPhoneswithoutthecontinuity,iMessage,FaceTime.ThefactthatfriendsandfamilyuseiPhones
outweighanyproofandroidphones.
ButIboughta64gb.Anyplannedobsolencewon'tbebecauselackofstorage,I'veloadedwhatIwantontomy
phoneandit'sstillathalfmemory.Butperformancefromprocessing,willlikelykillmyphone.
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[] BrainDeadUnit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ForthesamepriceofanSDcardforthelifetimeofthephone(adecentSDcard,notacheapoone(yesitmakes
adifference)),IcaninsteadsubscribetoiCloud,whichworksonallmydevices(includingmylaptop),syncsallof
them,andprovidesoffdevicebackupifIloseorhavethedevicestolen.
SDcardsareathingofthepast.
Seriously,afteradoptingcloudstorage,Idon'tevencarethatmyiPhoneis16gb.Thestorageonthedeviceitself
hasbecameirrelevanttomyusageofitexceptforthestorageofapps.
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Whichiscoolifyourdataplandoesn'tsuckandyounevergooffline...
Inrealitywe'renotreadyforthe"cloud"inCanada.2GB+cellphonecostsyou$80/mo.Wantsay10GB?
Addonanother$50ormore.
Soeverymonthyou'repaying$10morethanwhata64GBmicroSDcosts.(forlessspace)
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[] marvk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
30to40%doesn'tevenapplyto16GBphones,andifyoubuya16GBdevicenowadaysyoudon'treallyseemto
needspaceanyways.
I'vegota64GBphone,whichtranslatesto59.6"real"bytesdueto1KBbeing1000Bytesformanufacturersbut
1024Bytesper1KBof"real"physicalmemory:
(64*1000*1000*1000B) / ((1024*1024*1024B)/1GB) = 59.6 GB
I'vegot55.6GBspaceforfreeuse,thats4GBfortheOSor6.7%(4/59.6)forthe64GBphoneand26.8%forthe
16GBversion(4/14.9).
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[] HubbaMaBubba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SDcardsaremuchslowerthanthestorageinyourphone.They'reterribleforrunningapps.
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[] BigDuse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,slowstorageisbetterthannone.
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[] avocadoclock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ToobadIDGAF,Iwantmyextrastorage
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Fastenoughformedia
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[] lakeweed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatyearisit?GooglePhotoscankeepallofyourphotosbackedupinthecloud,youcandownload
themindividuallyforeditingtosavespaceisthisaboutstoringmovies?(toseeona5"device)why
keepmusicsavedwhenyoucanstreamthattoo(likeI'vebeendoingforseveralyears)?
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offlinemodeexists...andmostCanadiandataplansarehorrible.Iwouldn'twanttostream
music/video.Addinmydaughterwatchesthingsinthecarandboompricey.SDslotisbasically
mandatoryorIcan'tuseit.
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[] wermwouldNOT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneoftheprimaryreasonsIboughttheLGG4.
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[] MightyPenguin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IgottheV10,loveit.
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[] Bluebox10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheonlythingIdon'tlikeaboutitisthebatterylife.IstillusemyG2forgamesandit'scertainlyanoticeable
difference.
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[] ahylianhero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlovemyG3,butIhatethatitfeelslikeit'sgoingtocombusteverytimeIplaymobilegamesorwatch
youtubeformorethaneightminutes.
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[] donpapillon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MahnigG4h
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[] trainoflegos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtheremovablebattery
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[] kidgun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalmostgottheG4overtheS6forthatreason,butmostofmystorageusedtogotomusic,butIhaveT
Mobilenow,soIwasn'tasconcernedwithstorageasIusedtobe.
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[] thescorch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatandthequickcirclearesomenicefeatures.AlthoughIhonestlydon'tfindmyselfusingitmuchpeople
seemimpressedbyit.Ialsoreallyliketheqslideappsthatyoucanhaveopenintheforeground.Alotnicer
forproductivitythatsplittingthewholescreen.
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IlikemyS5...I'llhavetoinvestigatewhenitdies.IwillonlybuyaphonewithanSDslot.
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[] atfsix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MotoX2016wouldbeyourbestbet.Outsideofcamerait'snicerthantheG4ineverywayandeven
thecameraiscomparable.
They'redefinitelyuppingthebatterysizenextyearaswell,Iget10hoursSOTonmyXPlay/Droid
Maxx2
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[] HasNoClue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisrumorsthatthesdcardslotwillmakeacomebackwiththeS7
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2015/11/23/GalaxyS7edgetornamicroSDRumors/
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[] Gustav__Mahler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'llhavetoripmyS5frommycolddeadhands.I'dbeperfectlyhappywiththisphoneforthenext
tenyears.
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[] SMASHBRUHBRUH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThetworepliesaswellasaMoto2015andthes7too.
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[] Elswaiyr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iboughtans6notrealizingitdidn'thavetheSDport.Verymadwithmyself,anddisappointedin
Samsung.
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[] OfficerMudkip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Same.Istilllovemys6,butnothavingansdcardislikegettingknifedintheback
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[] wermwouldNOT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldhighlyrecommendit.BeyondSDcardslotandremovablebattery,thecameraandscreenare
fanfreakingtastic.
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[] StephenFly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vegotaSonyz3,it'sbeenrealgood.SDslot,waterproof,allthatjazzplusthebatterylifeisfantastic.
Ithinkthez5isoutnowtoo,it'dbeworthwhileconsideringit
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[] MX64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
G4userhere.Damngoodphone,Ican'tthinkofanyissuesI'vehadwithitsofar.Batterylifeispretty
averagethough.
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[] below_avg_nerd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UsingaG4now.WorstphoneI'veeverhad.Incrediblyslowwhenmorethanacoupleappsare
inthemultitaskingwindow,randomlywon'tturnthescreenon,overheatsconstantly,andis
almostunusablewhentextingandchargingatthesametime.ButI'vegottoadmitthecamera
isnice.
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[] curiouswizard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LGGStyloisgoodtoo.Iusetheshitoutofthisthinganditstillrunssmoothlyandlastsallday.
Theonlycontroversialfeatureisthesuperlargescreen(whichwastheprimarythingIwanted,
butnoteverybodydoes).
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[] BungusMcFungus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MotoxStylehasanSDslotaswell.MotoXPlayisthecheapervariantwithareallygoodbattery
(seenupto7hrsSoToverat/r/motox),imnot100%suretheplayversionhasansdslottho
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Greatphone,orderedminelastmonth
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[] Preivet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyouplayedwiththecamerayet?Damnitsdope
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Totallyagree.Atleastmostandroidphonesarestillusingthemicrousb.
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[] miniflip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mostandroidphonesarestillusingthemicrousb.
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Idon'tthinkthisistrueforhighendphonesanymore.
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[] makkkarana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
First,
MicroSD
FTFY
Second,
IamsoveryverypissedaboutandroidsturningintoiPhonesandifsomeonecouldprovideareasonfor
companiestodosuchashittythingitwouldbegreat.Ibasicallycan'tupgradetoanydecentphonefrommy
GalaxyS5becauseIlikebeingabletodothingslikereplacemyfuckingbattery.
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[] NocturnityReaps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LGG4isthewaytogobuddy,kickassphone
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WhileIagreewithyouthatyoushouldbeabletoreplaceyourfuckingbattery,youalsoshouldn't
fuckingneedtoreplaceyourfuckingbattery.I'vehadmyfuckingnexus5fornearlytwofuckingyears
andthebatteryisjustasfuckinggoodaswhenIgotit.
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[] Jusanden undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostpeopleherearejustwhining,butthereisanactualreasonfornotincludingamicrosdslot.Most
phonesuseamuchfastertypeofmemorycomparedtomicrosdmemory.Andwhenconsumersuse
ashittymicrosdcard,theymaynotknowthecardisslowingdowntheirphoneandcomplain.
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Ah.Aclassiccaseofloudidiotsruiningthefunforpeoplewhoknowwhatthey'redoing.
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[] Marxist_Liberation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
G4isasuperiorphoneandallowsreplacementbattery,etc.
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[] Sacar25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IboughttheiPhone6.OopsImeanagalaxys6.Ishouldhavejustkeptmys4.
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Youreallyshould've.I'vesaiditbeforebut,theonlythingkeepingmeonandroidisthesoftware
quality.
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[] Javi_in_1080p undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thes7isgoingtohaveamicroSDslotagain.Thes6didn'tbecauseSamsungcouldn'tgetSDcards
workingalongsidethenewnanddrivetheyusedforstorage.
Asforreplaceablebattery,getreadytosaygoodbyetothatforever.It'scheapertomanufacturer
sealedphones.Also,themarketisalwaystrendingtowardsmakingthethinnestphonepossible.
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[] BigDuse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftheywoulddothatandreintroducewaterproofing(whichshouldhavebeeneveneasierwitha
sealedphone)I'dbeprettyhappy.Untilthenthough,SonyandLGhavemyattention.
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[] nina00i undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icanonlyassumephonesarebeingmadethinnertoboostsalesofcases.Ortomakethemso
delicatethattheyfalloutofyourhandmoreeasily.
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Nah,it'sjustforthepremiumfeelandlook,phonemakersrarelymakethecases
themselves
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Iwantathickasspowerfulphonewithabigchangeablebattery,bigscreen,goodspeakers,
expandablememory,andpureandroid(likethenexusphoneshave).Isthattoomuchtoask?
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Unfortunatelyyes.Itwouldnotsellwell.
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Swappablebatteriesaren'tasnecessarywhenyoucanget10hourSOTand72hour
standby.
You'lllikethenextMotoX,Igetaridiculousamountofbatterylifeonmine.
http://imgur.com/t1IKOKp
They'llupthebatterysizenextyear,$399unlocked,pureAndroid,stereofrontfacing
speakers.
OnlythingmissingfrommyXPlayisatopofthelikeprocessor.Butitwas$170USDon
a2year$25/mounlimiteddatacontractsoooo.
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IjustgottheLGV10forthoseexactreasons!RemovablebatteryandhasanSDslotplus
ithasahugescreen.Onlydownsideisthatithasn'tbeenrootedyet(asfarasIknow).I
justupgradedfromtheoldnot2andwasreallylookingforwardtobeingabletochange
themes,removethebloatwareandpossiblychangeroms.TheV10issuperdopethough.
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IwantanandroidHTCTytn.
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MotoXPureticksmostofthose,exceptchangeablebattery.Plus,onceMarshmallowhits
us(shouldbewithinaweeknow),IcanformatmySDcardasinternalmemory.It's
irreversible,butit'swhatIwant.
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Note4candoallthoseexceptforpureandroid,andarootcouldfixthat.
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Luxuryphoneusersdon'twanttofiddlewithremovablestorage.Thatsall.Themarkethasmoved
awayfromthatdirection.
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S5ismyfavoriterightnowtoo.IjuststeppedonmineandthenpeedonitinonedrunkennightsoI'm
waitingforthemtoshipmearefurb.Dlnovasettingsifyouhaven'talready,it'samazing,makesyour
phonefullycustomizable.
Andno.Imeantmicrousbchartingport.
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Donovasettings?What'sthatmean?
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Battery:IhearditwassomebullshitinEuromarketsthatthey'remakingitbuiltinnow.IMOit'sto
makeyoubuyaphonesoonerifthatbatterywearsout(becausebatteryisprobablygoingtowear
downthequickestoutofeverypart).
MicroSD:Twofold1)PhonescanreliablyreplaceMP3players.Theonesmakingphonesusually
alsomakeMP3players.Theydon'tlikethis.2)Cloudstorage.IfIwerealargetelecomI'dpaythe
mfgstoomittheextrastoragesoconsumerswouldbeforcedtobuyahigherdataplantostreamtheir
cloudcontent(alsothecloudstoragegeneratesrevenuenoticenoweventelecomsoffertheirown
cloudstoragespace).
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Thisclearedupbothmyoriginalquestionandwhyphonebloksfailed
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IfeltthesamewayandgotanLGG4.ComingfromSamsung,Iwelcomethischangeandprobably
won'tgoback.
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[] Toms42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadtheg3foracoupleyears,andit'samazing.Ihonestlycanuseanyotherphone
comfortablyatthispoint.LGmakesreallynicephones,andthesoftwareisn'tbloatedlike
touchwiz.Thatandthecamera....
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[] mellor21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifsomeonecouldprovideareasonforcompaniestodosuchashittything
Chargeafewhundredmorefortheonewithmorememoryinsteadoflettingyoubuyamicrosc
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[] gamingchicken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsolessopeningsmakeiteasiertoadvertiseaphoneaswateranddustresistant.
It'safuckaboutthough,theyknowpeoplewantexpanablememoryandeasilychangeable
batteries.Theyjustdon'tgiveafuck.
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[] ijustwantanfingname undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SochargeusmoreforamodelwithSD.I'dpay.
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ApplephonesarenowabetterversionofSamsungphonesanyway.
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Idonotlikeapple'ssoftware.BasicallytheonlyreasonIwouldstickwithandroidatthispoint.
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Yabutstillhardtobehappywhenyour$800phonecanonlyhold8GBofvideo...
Ihadvideoplayersinlike2006thatcouldstore60+GB(using1.8"drives)
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Doyoureallywantaharddriveinyourphone?That'sjustaskingfortrouble.
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NobutanSDslotisn'tthatpriceytoaddtoaphone.
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Nohewantsmorespace.11yearsagowhenthatstillmeanthavingtodealwithharddrivesand
mostpeopledidnothavenearlyasmuchdatacompaniesgaveyouthechoice.
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[] Commander_Shepard_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,buthavefuntryingtorecoverthedatawhenthedrivebreaksdown.Thoselittlediskdrives
wereaninefficientbutnecessarysteppingstonetoNANDbasedflashmemorythatdominatesthe
industrytoday.For40bucksIcangetaMicroSDcardthatholdstwicethat,allwithhundredsoftimes
thedurabilityandenergyefficiency.
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Exactly.That'swhyitissuchadickmoveforthesamecompaniesthatgaveyouthechoiceto
dealwithharddrivestoturnaroundandbaryoufromusingthatmicroSD.
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No16gbiPhoneisevencloseto800dollars
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Sorry...$699+tax.
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Ohyou.
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[] AverageMutantTurtle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
899$inCanadaatleast
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[] xinxy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alotofupdatesfixthingsthattheaverageuserwouldn'trealizearebeingfixed.Bugs/securityholes/stabilityandsoon.
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[] ifthenloop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'm95%surethatthisistrueandAppleknowshowever,it'snotintentional,andApplejustdoesn'thavethedesire/resourcestofixit.
Haven'tyoueverinstalledanewcomputergameoroperatingsystemontoanoldcomputer?Anoldcomputerthatwasdesigned
aroundrunningoldercomputergamesorusinganolderoperatingsystem?
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[] Crazytater23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,there'sadifferencebetweendesigningyoursoftwaretoruinoldphones,andnotoptimizingforobsoletehardware
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[] TwoLeaf_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andit'sfunnyhowhesaysapplejustdoesn'thavetheresourcestofixit
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Appledoesn'thavetheresources?
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Notiftheywanttomaintaintheirprofitmarginlol
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Whybotherassigningdeveloperstokeeptheoldproductsrunningsmoothly?
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Ingeneral,customersatisfactionandretentionbutinsteadofseeingtheiriPhonegettingslowerovertimeandlooking
foranalternative,mostpeoplejustbuyanewiPhone.Soreallyitwouldonlycutintotheirprofitsatthispoint.
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Ihaveareallyhardtimebelievingit'snotintentional.Ihaveastackofoldappledevicesandtheyallbehavethesameway.Apple
hascompletecontroloverthemaximumversionofanOSadevicecanrun.Theytestedtheseupdatesonmanymanydevicesand
knowexactlyhowit'sgoingtobehave.
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[] seriously_clueless undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sabalancebetweengivingtheolderdevicelatestfeatureortellthosepeoplethattheycan'tusethelatestsoftware
features.Weabsolutelydon'tmakenewsoftwaresloweronolderdevices.Wedeterminewhattheoldestdevicethatcan
actuallyrunthelatestsoftwarebasedonaminimumleveloffunctionalityandnumberofpeoplestillusingit.Wedon'twantto
cutthemoffthelatestdevicebecausethealternativewouldbeevenmorecomplaint.
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iPhonesalsogetupgradesfarlongerthananyothermanufacturer,though.Imean,iOS9canbeaccessedgoingbacktothe
4S,whichcameoutfouryearsago.Howlongdoweexpectmanufacturerstoreasonablysupporttheirdevices?AllApple
wouldhavetodotomaketheirolddevicesfallbythewaysideistostopsupportingthementirely,imo.
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YeaIstillusea4S.Notthefastestbutit'snowherenearunusable
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Ilovedmy4s.Usingagalaxys5nowanditstoobigtousewithonehand.
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YabutIthinktheintentionalpartismorethemjustintentionallynotdoinganythingtofixit.Ikindadoubttheydo/diditon
purpose,butit'sbeenworkingoutforthemsotheyaren'tgoingtodoanythingaboutit.
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Ikindadoubttheydo/diditonpurpose,
Yestheydo.Theyareamultibilliondollarcompanythattriestohave100%controlovertheirhardwareandsoftware.
Everyupdatetheyreleaserunsasintendedassumingyouhavenotmodifiedyoursystem(whichisnearlyallusersare
thevastmajoritydon'tevenknowwhatjailbreakingis)
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Sorry,no,Idon'tbuyit.Yes,itisentirelyuptothemwhattheyshiptoeachphone,butthat'snotthesameas
"deliberatelymakingthephoneslower".They'redeliberatelychoosingoneoftheseoptions:
1. Applemakesthenewupdatecompatiblewithyouroldphone,andputsinatonofextraeffortmakingsureit
runsfastevenonoldhardware.
2. Applemakesthenewupdatecompatiblewithyouroldphone,butfocusesinsteadonmakingitrunfaston
newhardwareandrunokayonoldhardware.
3. Appledoesn'tshiptheupdatetoyouroldphone,butputsinsomeextraeffortbackportingsecurityfixesto
oldversionsofiOS.
4. Applejuststopsupdatingyouroldphonealtogether.
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Option4makesyourphoneentirelyobsolete.Alltheotheroptionsmakeyouroldphoneusable,but2isthe
cheapestoneiPhonehardwareisprettysimilar,somakingthenewOSrunonoldhardwareisprobablyeasier
thanbackportingsecurityfixes.
Sobasically,Appleisdeliberatelynotgoingoutoftheirwaytokeepyouroldphonefeelingfast.They'redoingjust
enoughtokeepyoufromhavingtothrowitout.
Sothat'ssortoflikeifIchosenottogiveyouacookie,andyousay"SanityInAnarchydeliberatelymademe
hungry!"
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WhathappenedwasthatwhenForstallleft,Iverippedoutallthespritesandreplacedthemwithashittonofblursandothereffects.
Spritesarefast,blursareslow.
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[] TED4000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alotofpeoplehavepostedabout'plannedobsolence'
Ihavenoideawhatthisis,butoneofthethingsAppledoesismakeredundantsystems,systemswhichyouwillalmostneverneed
buttakeupalotofprocessingpower,werethenewdeviceswillbeabletorunitjustfine.Microsoftcouldn'tdothiswithoutbreaking
somelaws,unlessthewantedtoshowabunchofredundantsystemsintheirtaskmanager.Therehavebeenafewwhistleblowers
forAppleandtheysaythisistrue,andthatalotofcomponentsweardownwhenexposedtocold,orhottemperatures.
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[] What_I_Thought undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canyoutrytoexplainthisinactualtermsandnotjustnonsense?
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Alrightthen,I'lltryandsimplify.Applemightmakeasystemlike'HeySiri'whichiswhereyousay'HeySiri'Siriwillopen,
(Onlyworkswhenchargingatthemoment)Nowthistaskmighttakeup,2000MhZ,itwon'tbethatmuch,butforan
applecorethat'safairamount.Doesn'tseemtoobaduntilyoukeepaddingabout10redundantsystems,ofcoursethe
HeySiriwillrequiremorepowerthanmostsystems.Youcanturnmostofthesesystemsoffwhichisnice.Butyour
devicemightendupnotlookingverygood.IdonotreallylikeApple.BUT.Theyarenottheonlyones,Androiddevices,
Windows,andmaybesomeotherswillhavethisaswell.AndItakeitback,computersandlaptopsdoindeedhave
redundantsystems,buttheyarenotas"redundant"ifyouwill,asothers.
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Thecriticismwasn'tthatyouweren'tbeingsimpleenough,butthatyouweretalkingnonsense.
Foronething,"Takeup"2000MHzisn'tarealthing.IfItakethistomeanusingthatmanycycles,orusingone2
GHzcore,thatisabsurdtheydon'tevenhave2GHzchips,sothatwouldbepegging12coresallthetime.10
copiesatthatspeedismorethanmostdesktopcomputerscouldhandle.
Butit'salsonotclearwhatyoumeanbya"redundantsystem"youstillhaven'texplainedwhatyoumean.Do
youmeananextrafeature?Ifso,thenthat'salreadyquiteacontentiousstatement.Peoplewhousethevoice
activationalotwouldn'tconsiderthat"redundant",they'dconsideritessential.Andasyoupointout,ifyouturnall
ofthesethingsoff,yourdevicelooksworsebutthat'sonlybycomparisonwithnewdevicesthatcansupportall
thosefeatureseasily.
Or,areyouaccusingAppleofrunning10separatecopiesoftheirhotworddetectionservicedoingexactlythe
samething,justtoburnresourcesandmakeoldiPhonesslow?Ifthat'sthecase,you'rereallyoffthedeepend,
becausethatwouldbepainfullyobvioustoplentyofpeopleoutsideApplewerethatthecase.Yousuggest
Microsoftcan'tdothisbecauseoftaskmanagers,asifthosedon'texistoniOS?
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Sorry,let'saddresssomeoftheseissues.Iamnotacomputerexpert,justIheardthisonathreadrecently
2000HZ,mymistakethere,Iapologise,Alsoalotofdesktopcomputerscouldhandle2GhZ
It'snotuseless,itjustsometimesmighttakeupmoreprocessingpowerthanitneedsto
No,Iamreferringtorunning10differentsystemswiththesamesortof'Tomuchprocessingpower'
ethic
WhatIwasimplyingistheapplicationsmanageronWindowsdisplayshowmuchprocessingpower
eachtasktakes,andasfarasIknowAppledoesnothavethose.
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2000HZ,mymistakethere,Iapologise
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Well,nowyou'reattheotherendofbelievability2000Hz,aka2kHz,meaningaphonecouldrun
hundredsofthousandsoftheseonasinglecore.
NotthatthisisirrelevantwakinguptheCPUmoreoftenthanyouhavetowilldrainthebattery,for
example.Butthataffectsnewphonesjustasmuchasoldones,andfixingtheproblemfornew
phoneswillimprovethebatterylifeofoldonesalso.
Alsoalotofdesktopcomputerscouldhandle2GhZ
But10programseachconsumingthatmuch?I'vegotahighendworkstationwithahexacore
runningat3.5ghzorso,meaningiftherewaszerosynchronizationoverhead,Icouldjustdothis.A
lotofdesktopcomputerscouldn't,mylaptopcertainlycouldn't.
Butalso,likeIsaidbefore,aprocessusing"xmegahertz"isn'treallyathing.Thenumberofcyclesit
takestodoathingdependsontheCPUinquestiondesktopCPUsaresomethinglike24xmore
powerfulpercyclethanmobileones,I'dguessbecauseofthecrazyamountofpipeliningtheydo.It
makessensetotalkabouttheamountofCPUtimebeingusedonagivenCPU,orthepercentageof
itstotalavailablecyclesaCPUspentonagiventask,butoutsideofcrazyembeddedmicro
optimizations,itdoesn'tmakealotofsensetotalkaboutprogramperformanceintheseterms.
MostpeopleI'vemetdon'tevenknowthe'HeySiri'featureexists
Eveniftrue,thisisnotnecessarilyrelevant.Thisisthethingyourunintowhenyoutrytoswitch
peopleoffofWindowsorMSOfficeformostpeople,LinuxandLibreOfficedoes95%ofwhatthey
want,andevenaChromebookwithGoogleDocsprobablydoes90%ofwhattheywant.
Butit'sdifferentpiecesmissingforeveryone.Foroneperson,maybetheycollaboratewithTrack
ChangesonWord,andLibreOffice'ssupportisn'tquiteperfectforthisfeature.Foranother,they've
raisedExcelspreadsheetstoacrazyprogrammingartform,andmaybeGoogleSheetsjustdoesn't
havetherawperformancetheyneed.Andthisiswhyit'sbeensohardtogetpeopletomove,even
whenLinuxwasjustobjectivelybetterineveryway,becausethere'dbesomeobscureprogramthat
onlyworkedonWindows(anddidn'tworkunderWine).
Thepointis:Afeaturecanstillbeimportant,evenifmanypeople(evenmost)don'tknowaboutit.So
ifyourpointisthatAppleistakingthatnewhardwareandusingittopowerfeaturesthatnot
everybodyuses...well,yes.Andthatseemsentirelyreasonableandnotthesortofthingyou'dneeda
whistleblowertotellyou.
Andtheexampleyoupickedis"HeySiri",whichiskindof...iconic.Maybepeopledon'tknow,butif
theyseethisad,they'regoingtowanttotryitout,soitneedstobeonbydefault.
WhatIwasimplyingistheapplicationssectionofthetaskmanageronWindowsdisplayshow
muchprocessingpowereachtasktakes,andasfarasIknowAppledoesnothavethose.
IttookmeonlyafewminutesofGooglingtofindCocoaTop.I'mnotsureifyouneedtojailbreakto
makethiswork,butifit'sthateasytofindoutwhat'seatingCPU,it'snotlikepeoplewouldn'tnotice.
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Alrightyouwin,butseriouslyI'mjustreplayingstuffI'veheardinotherthreads
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JailbrokeniPhonesdohaveeasilyaccessibletaskstats,andwhatyou'resayingsimplyisn'ttrue.
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Sharewithmethetaskstattrackingtweaks,I'lldownloadone
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[] XxHulkGreenxX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotaconspiracy.It'scalled"plannedobsolescence"andyoucanreadaboutithere:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
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[] onlyforthisair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Butwiththat,it'snotsomesneakyideaofhamstringingoldhardware.
Theydesignnewsoftwaretouseallofthosefeaturesthathavepeoplerunningouttobuythenewhardware.Ifyouarerunninga
newOSorApponoldhardware,you'regoingtoseeitrunningslower.
Andevenappsthatusedtoperformwellaregoingtobeupdatedtorunonnewhardware.
I'mnotsurewhythissortofbehaviorwouldsurprisepeople,though.Theonlyotheroptionistoeitherlockoutoldhardwarefrom
newsoftwareorhamstringnewsoftwaretorunperfectlyonoutdatedhardware.
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[] sturmeh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlannedObsolescenceisaconspiracy.
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[] thabonch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justbecauseithasanamedoesn'tmeanit'snotaconspiracy.
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[] tyrico undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
conspiracy:asecretplanbyagrouptodosomethingunlawfulorharmful
Itisn'tsecret,anditisn'tunlawful,thereforeitisnotaconspiracy.
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...orharmful.Andiftheyweredeliberately"unoptimizing"theirsoftwarethatwouldbesecret.
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It'sonlyaconspiracyifit'sasecret.
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[] Swansonisms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howaboutthis:theiPhone4shasamaximumRAMof800mbbutisunderclocked(thanksshittybattery!)to600.IOS8
requires1gboframtorunproperlyyetapplereleasedtheupdateforthe4s.
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[] ARC157 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcan'tunderclocktheamountofmemory.Thatmakesnosense.
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Youdon'tnamesomethingyou'retryingtohide.Ifit'snamedandoutintheopen,it'snotaconspiracy.
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YourealizethatAppledidn'tnameit,right?
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Thenameisforthepractice,notjustforwhenAppledoit.
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[] Pannra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bestplacetohidesomethingisinplainsight.
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Iprobablyshouldhaveleftthatout.It'sbeenrecordedtohappenanditisn'ttoofarfetchedtoassumeAppleisdoingit
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ThreeyearsagoIwould'veagreed.
Seeinghowtechnology,specificallymobiletechnology,hasadvancedthough,Ithinkplannedobsolesceisararetactic.
AppleandsoftwareOEMsIdon'tthinkfollowthepractice.Imean,evenonoldermachinesWindows10andOSX
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10.11runprettygreat.iOS9onprettymuchthe5upisprettygood,andthefactthataphonefrom2012evensaw
supportthrough2015isprettygood,consideringtheexponentialgrowthofthemobilespace.
Theonlypeoplei'daccuseofPOisthemanufacturesthatLOADtheirproduct,likeanySamsungtablet,phone,or
computer,oranythingAcer.
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thattheMichelinManisjustMr.Clean.
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TheNSAinterceptsandrecordsalldigitalcommunicationandeveryphoneconversationyouhave.
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Isn'tthisaknownfact?Theybuiltamassivefacilityoutwestspecificallytodothis.
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NotoriousBIGandTupacranofftobegayloversinpeaceandseclusionandhaveneverlookedback.
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that'swhatthugzmansionisreallyallabout
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I'mupvotingthisjustbecauseitisfunny.Dumbassrappers....
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heythegayrapconspiracyphenomenonisawelldocumentedfact
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[] jawwideshut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeorgeWashingtonleadapowerfulandpopularseparatistmovement.
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isntthatjusthistory?
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Wooosh!
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Therazorandbladesbusinessmodel.....allyouOPhatersIhaven'tseenthisposted.
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[] SwiggityStag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hitlerdidn'tkillhimself.Imean,hewasmostlikelyapsychopathtohavebeenabletodothehorriblethingshedid.Psychopathsdon't
harmthemselveswhentheyfail,theydon'tselfhate.Theyonlyseemtokillthemselveswhenthey'redefinitelycaught,whichisseen
prettyofteninmurderersandthelike.Unlesshewassurrounded,Ifeelthatitwasunlikelythathewouldthinktokillhimself,andwould
morelikelybethinkingaboutescapingtodosomethingelseafterhisoriginalplanfailed.
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Hitlerwastrapped.TheRedArmywasstormingBerlinwhenhekilledhimself.
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Hitleronlydidsomuch.PeopleattributeeverythingthathappenedinGermanytohitler.Thereexistedothermeninthatgovernment
andbutlerdidn'tdictateeverysingledecisiontheymade.HonestlyHitlerseemedtobeamanwhowaspassionateabouthiscountry,
hewasjustanassholeradical.
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AssomebodythatstudiedthateraofGermanhistoryextensively,Hitlerwouldn'thavebeenabletodowhathedidifeverybody
wasn'talittlebitracist.WasmostofGermanyabouttoburnJewishownedbusinessesbeforetheNSDAPcameintoplay?No.But
wereChristianGermansandJewishGermansliketwopeasinapod?No.MostpeopleweredistrustfulofJews.Thefactthat
Hitler's"stabintheback"theoryaboutJewsbeingthereasonGermanylostinWorldWar1(whichledtothewarreparationsthat
economicallyfuckedGermanyandthusledtoalotofresentmentintheChristianGermanpopulation,resentmentthatwas
transferredtoJewswhenthetheorybecamepopular)caughtonsowellisbecausemostpeoplealreadydistrustedJews.Wecan
talkabouthowbadHitlerwasalldaylongbutthatreallymissesapointthatnobodyseemstowanttotalkabout.Arightwingradical
xenophobicracistgotelected.Theproblemisn'tthatheexisted,theproblemisthatpeopleareactuallywillingtovoteforDonald
Trump.
Uh,ImeanHitler.Fuck.
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Furthermore,theGermansinitiallyjustwantedtobootJewsoutofthecountry.TheFinalSolutionwasaresultofallthe
countriesaroundthemrejectingtheJewsbecausetheyallhatedJewstoo.EverybodyhatedtheJewsandalotofpeoplein
thetobealliednationssupportedtheNazis.NoweveryoneactsindignanttowardsGermany,whentheholocaustwouldhave
beentoleratedinmostofeurope.
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ifyoubelievethebunkerstoryhewaiteduntilberlinhadallbutcompletelyfallenbeforehekilledhimself,whichwouldseemtowork
withwhatyou'resaying.therewasagreatfilmcalleddownfallwhich(fictionally)tracedhislastdays.
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Thefilmisactuallybasedonanonfictionbook.Thefilmisingeneralhistoricallycorrect
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7/11wasaninsidejob
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I'msohappyIhavntseenanyonesay9/11orSandyhookoranyofthose
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SandyHookconspiraciesarelikenextlevelretarded.
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Ican'tsaythatSandyHookwasorwasnotfaked,butcmon,novideofootage?
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Topicallyappliedfluoridedoesn'tpreventtoothdecayitdoesrenderteethdetectablebyspysatellite.
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Thelittleplasticcapsontheendsofshoelacesarecalled"aglets."Theirtruepurpose...issinister.
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Sotheycantrackandcontainashoeuprising?
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So,whyamIpayingmydentistforfluoridetreatment?Shouldn'tthebillgotobigbrother?
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Ithinkheistalkingaboutwatersupplyfluoride,dentalfluorideendsupbeingappliedwithotherchemicalsandthereactioniswhat
endsupcleaningyourteeth.
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OPstated'Topicallyappliedfluoride'notsystemic.
Source:http://www.ada.org/~/media/ADA/Member%20Center/FIles/patient_72.ashx
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r/Actualconspiracies
Alsothenoncrazy9/11ones.
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Thismaysoundcrazy,butIthinkit'spossiblethat/u/JokeExplainBotisactuallyarealpersoninsteadofabot
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Shitthey'reontome...
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That'scrazy!
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Zippy?
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Youareaphony!
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IjustnoticedIreadthisonmyphoneandforgottothankyou.
Thankyoukindstranger:)
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Havegoldtoo.onlybenefitIuseisaccessto/r/loungesomesecretsubreddit
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Wut
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See,onlyabotcanselfdestruct.There'snothingtoseehere
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Don'tbelievehim,he'snotjustsomerandomAsian,he'stheguywhowritesthemRandomAsianguyposts.Orgirl.
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Well,humanscancommitsuicide.
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Theywantyoutobelievehat
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See,
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Instructionsunclear
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Nowwhowillexplainjokestome?
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I'mmoreworriedabouttheasshole/u/automoderator.Ithinkthatassholeistryingtotakeover.
Andthenthere'sanotherfuckingprickbotwhopostsimgurmirrorsinyourposts.Yea,fuckhimtoo.
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Don'tbesilly.
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EveryoneonRedditisabotexceptyou
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Bullshit!YouandyourleftwingliberalmediacroniescanchuckoffbacktoCaliforniawhereyoubelong.
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/u/ShittyJokeExplainBothoweveristherealdeal.
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Isheshadowbannedfrom/r/jokes?AnylinksfromhisprofileIclickcomeupemptyonthethreads.
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Whattheshitdoesitmatter?
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Yesheisbannedthere.Apparentlycausehe'snotarealbot...
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Whattheshitdoesitmatter?
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Man,IthoughtIwasmissingthatdudeonr/jokes!Whatashame
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Hellyes./u/ShittyJokeExplainBotis/r/ExplainLikeImCalvinincarnate,andit'sfreakinghilarious.
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shutup
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Finallysomeonetalkingsense
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Iassumemostbotsarerealpeople.
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Nicelegs.
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So+u/rollmeisactuallyapersonwithafreakingdicepostingdicerollsoneveryD&DandRPGthreadwhenrequested.Imagine
that!
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Cationbotisdefinitelyanactualbotandnotapersonthough
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That'sexactlywhatasynthwouldsay.
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I'vebeenfakingitthroughlife.
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ThanksJoeBiden!
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DoyouhaveaGeigercounterIcanborrow?
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#botslivesmatter!
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Wellyeah.Imeanbotsdon'tevenhaveanuses.
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Bothere.Canconfirm.Amrealperson.
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EveryoneonRedditisabitexceptyou.
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Canconfirm.
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Everyoneonredditisabotbutyou
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Everybodyonredditisabotexceptyou.
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Everyoneisabotexceptforyou.
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Howarewerealifourbotsaren'treal?
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Weneedacode1onFlypaste,ASAP!
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botpeopleassumemostIarereal
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[] apennyfornonsense undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Disney'scontinuedpreservationofcopyrightprotectiontoalwayskeepMickeyMouseoutofthepublicdomain.Disney'sprobableuse
ofillegalchildlaborpracticesintrainingtheirstars.Disney'sprobablenoncompeteclausesontheirformerstarsforcingthemto"act
out"inordertocreateanimagethatdiffersfromtheDisneybrand.Disney'smanipulationoftheTPPtoextendinsanecopyright
protectiontoothernations.I'mjustafuckinggoldmineofDisneyconspiracies.
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[] HANDSDOWN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LeaveTwitchPlaysPokemonoutofthis!
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Iwastalkingaboutthetwopartypreferredvotingsystem.Don'tworry.
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Disney'sprobableuseofillegalchildlaborpracticesintrainingtheirstars.
Whatlikerape?Whynotjustsayrape?
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Imeanttheworkhours.Disneyisapitofdoom&despair,butI'mnotsayingthatthey'veeverrapedanyone.Coveredupsome
rape,maybe.ButyoucouldsaythesamethingaboutPennState.
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Soissnopes
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Theirprobablyuseofillegalchildlabourpractices?Wouldyoumindelaboratingonthat?
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They'rekidswhoareactingandperforming.They'renotgettingpaidforthosethingsimmediately,butit'sstilllabor.
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Sohowmanyhoursarekidsallowedtoworkasperformers?DoesDisneyexceedit?
(sorry,I'mnotAmerican,soIwasjustcurious)
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Well,childrenbelow16aren'tallowedtoworkatall.Disneyhasspecialexceptionstothoselaws.It'sprettycommonfor
youngactors,butbecauseofDisneyitnowappliestomusicperformancesandpracticesforthatkindofthing.Whatwas
meanttoapplytokidsdoingsmalltimebitpartsona30min/weeksitcom(22minutesofshowtimewithout
commercialswhereactorhasmaybe10linesifthey'relucky)nowappliestokidspotentiallyworking60hours/week.
Granted,noone'sadmittingtothatkindofworkschedule.Butittakesalotofworktostarinyourownmovies,TV
shows,andbeatoptierpopstarallatthesametime.
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Disneylandrequiresabloodsacrificeeverysooftentokeeprunning.
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[] sweetrhymepurereason undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DisneyhasthebenefitofconsumersassociatingallthingsDisneywithhappy,nostalgic,childhoodmemories.Thesheeramountofdie
hardDisneyfansisinsane,butevenregularfolkssupportitsimplybecausetheywereraisedwithit.Someonecouldcomeoutwith
hardfactsandevidencesayingthatDisneymurderspuppiesinthetunnelsunderthethemeparks.anditwouldhaveabsolutelyno
repercussionsonprofits.
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Wellsaid
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[] CherenkovRadiator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetDisneycruisecoverups.
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Mickeywouldnotenterpublicdomain,earlycartoonslikeSteamboatWillywouldenterpublicdomain.
EarlySupermancartoonsareinthepublicdomain,theFleischerSttudiostuff,andSupermanisstillcopyrightedtoDC.
SherlockHolmes,mostTarzanstoriesareinthepublicdomainbutthecharactersarestillcopyrightedtotheirestates.
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[] Kickback0512 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisatheory?Shit,Ithoughtitwasprettywellknownfact.
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Well,let'sjustsayit'satheorylikeDarwin.
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[] Money_on_the_table undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gotanyabouttheparks?
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Plentyabouttheworkingconditionsofthecastmembersorwhateverthey'recalled.Butthey'repositionsarestillcoveted,soI
guessthatthestatementaboutitbeingthehappiestplaceonearthmusthavesometruthtoit.
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Justtryingtomakehugeamountsofmoneyisn'treallyaconspiracy.
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It'stheirsuccessatcorruptingtheUSlegalsystemthat'sdisturbing.JustreadthetextoftheTPP.
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[] therealcarltonb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Disneyusingsubliminalmessagesintheirmoviestoestablishpedophiliaasnormal.
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Disney'sprobablenoncompeteclausesontheirformerstarsforcingthemto"actout"inordertocreateanimagethatdiffersfrom
theDisneybrand
Thiswouldbeunenforceable.
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[] misantr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThefactthattheCopyrightTermExtensionActisalsoknowastheMickeyMouseProtectionActdoesn'treallymakeitmuchofa
conspiracy.
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Define"toconspire"
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[] TheAE86ofMtAkina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavenoissuewithchildlaboraslongasitisn'tlittlekids.WhenIwas12,Iwould'velovedaparttimejobsothenIwouldn'thaveto
huntforquarters/nickelsthatpeopledropped.
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Fairenough.Metootobehonest.Ijustfinditcrazythatyourparent'smom&popshopwouldgetshutdownbytheBLabfor
somethingthatatransnationalgetsawaywithblatantly.Itpissesmeoff,butthat'snothingcomparedtoalltheirotherbullshit.
TBH,I'mnotevensurewhysweatshopsaresuchabigdeal.Igetthatthecompaniesmoveanditcausesproblems,butthey
wouldn'tmovesomuchifpeopleweren'taspissedaboutthesweatshops.I'mnotsayingI'mcoolwithsweatshops,justthatIdon't
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understandthefussyet.Don'tlynchme.
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Ithoughtthecopyrightextensionthingwascommonknowledge?
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Hencethepost.
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Imeantlike,notaconspiracytheory.Aconspiracytheoryinthesensethatmostpeopleuseisbydefinitionunverified,
whereasit'samatterofpublicrecordthatDisneyisconstantlylobbyingforextensionstocopyrightterms.Seethe"Mickey
MouseProtectionAct"
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You'rethinkingmorealongthelinesofaparanoiddelusion.Theproblemwiththatphraseisthatadelusioncan'tbetrue
definitionally.Thusyou'repaintingyourselfintoacornerhere.
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[] pl0xz0rz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptthatliesandthetrutharen'tmutuallyexclusive.Youcandeceivewithhalftruthswhilestillbeingtechnically
true.Youcanmakewildguesses,andbeaccidentallyright.
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[] LikeAScientist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themouseisactuallytrademarked,notcopyrighted...
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TLDR.Disneyhasboth.Thisistypicallytalkedaboutunderthebroadumbrellaof"copyrightlaw."
Thespecificsofwhatconstituteswhatareverycomplicated:
Atrademarkmightsaybasically:wegetthisMickeyMousepictureonkidsbackpackssizesS,M,L,&colorsX,Y,&Z.Itmusthave
apictureanditmusthaveadescriptionoftheitem.Youhavetopayatregularintervals,andyouhavetoprovethatyou're"making"
theproduct.Youcanrenewtheseclaimsindefinitelysolongasyoumeetthetwocriteria.
AcopyrightclaimsthatthethecharacterofMickeyMousecan'tbetakentobeusedinsomeoneelse'swork.Youcan'tmake
MickeyMousevideosevenifyoucouldcreatethem.ThisistheprotectionpeopleargueaboutregardingMickeyMouse.
Source:Arecent&fantasticfullyfundedconferenceoninnovationeconomicsintheWindyCityattheKelloggSchoolofLawpaid
forbytheUSPTO.Yourtax$@Work.
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[] ranXoX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FWIW,IknowanIraniantextileguywho'smadeasmallfortuneknockingoffDisneycharactersforchildrenswear.Ahhhh...
thesweetupsidesofembargo's.
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Imadethepointbecausetrademarkisworsethancopyright.
Copyrightlastsmaybe200years,trademarklastsuntilthecompanydisbandssoforever.
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Sorryforthelongreply
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It'sokay,Iusedtobeborderlineobsessedwithintellectualproperty.
Iknowstuffgetscomplicated.
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What'sconspiracylikeaboutwantingtokeepthecopyrightonMickeyMouse?Thatjustseemsrational.
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Sorryforthelongreplyherewithoutbreaks.I'mtootiredtoaddthemintelligently.
It'sthefactthatthey'vebeensoincrediblysuccessfulthat'sthestartlingproblem.Copyrightprotectionissupposedtomotivatethe
creationofmorecontentthroughtheuseofeconomicincentives.YouprobablyunderstandexactlywhatI'mtalkingabouthere.It's
hardtoarguethatprotectionforthelifetimeofthecontentcreatorplusanadditional75yearsmotivatesanyonetodomorecreating.
Youcan'tcreatewhenyou'redead.Andbuildingoncommonstoriesisoneofthefoundationsoffuturestorytelling.Imagineif
Disneycouldn'thavemadetheLittleMermaidbecauseHansChristianAndersen'sstorywasstillundercopyrightprotection.Hans
ChristianAndersenwasn'tmakingmorestoriesafterhewasdead.WhyshouldtheUScourtshaveruledthatMickeyMouseshould
stillbeaprotectedwork?WhydoestheTPPhaverulesthatextendthisprotectiontonationsdevelopinganddevelopedacrossthe
globe?It'stoprotecttheseinterestsofbigmedia,theDisneycorporation.Thecorruptionisn'twithinDisney.Thecorruptionisofmy
governmentbyDisney.Andit'sterrifying.
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AlsotheCEOofNickhassexwiththechildstarsinhisshows.
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What'sthetldrversionofthis?
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[] Xicon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DanSchneider,nottheCEOofNickbutthecreatorandproducerofalotoftheirrecentliveactionworkandpastsketchstuff
(AllThat,AmandaShow,DrakeandJosh,iCarly,Victorious,thelistgoeson),hasbeenthesubjectofabunchofinternet
rumorsthathehassexwiththechildstarsofhisshow.It'salotofuncorroboratedstuffthatisinalllikelihoodjusta4chan
invention,butit'saninterestingreadallthesame.
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[] ge93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysurethisis100%a4chanmeme,notaseriousrumour.
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Yeahprobably.Ididn'trealizebutItypeditbadly.Idon'tthinkthisfitsasahighlylikelyconspiracy,butitisan
interestingonerelatedtotheDisneyconspiracy.
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[] Xicon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifitis,whichislikely,it'sbeenrepeatedoftenenoughandinenoughplacestobedifficulttopindownanexact
originlikethat.I'minclinedtodismissitasa4chanrumor,buteitherwayI'mprettysureit'stheTLDRofwhat
/u/befronwasreferencing.
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Ahhgoodol'Dan"don'ttouchherman!"Schneider
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[] BeneGezzWitch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsthistherealfatherofJaimeSpearskid?
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[] PM_me_ur_Dinosaur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'srumored.
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Thisisinteresting.Thanks!
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[] William_gfl_gfs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"BigSchlong"John?
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[] racerj3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isn'ttheCEOactually"LongDong"Ron?
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yerifyoulookintothepastwithwaltdisneyanddisneythereactualyalotofshadyshittheydidinthepast,ibelievetheycontinuedoing
shadyshittheyjustgotbetterathidingit.
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Exactly.
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There'sliterallynootherexplanationfortheTPPextendingcopyrightsolong.Don'ttheywantlifeplus70yearsnow?
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It'salreadylifeplus70rightnow.Itusedtobelifeplus50untilthe1990s,whenDisney(amongothers)lobbiedtohavethat
extendedfortwentymoreyears.Thedeadlineiscomingupforeventhattoexpire,andthey'reprobablygoingtotrytoextendit
evenfurther.Idon'tseewhytheywouldn'tjustaskforinfinite,sinceanythingpastlifejustdoesn'tmakeanysenseanyway.
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Well,Iwouldsaythat'sanexaggeration.Idon'tthinkDisneyistheonlycompanythatwouldbenefitfromtheseinsanecopyright
laws.ThoughIcandefinitelyimagineDisneylobbyingforit.
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Life+75.Insane.
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[] Bloommagical undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ShouldbeLife+1year.1yearisenoughtimetogetyourshitinorderincaseyourbossdies.
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Anyonewhovotesforanythingpastlifeisfuckinginsane.
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Igenerallyagree.ButIjustlikeafixednumberofyearsaftertheworkispublished.Idon'tenjoyconsultingmyactuarial
tableswhenvaluingacompany'sequity.
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OhIagree.Ithinksomewhereintheneighborhoodof15yearsisfine.Latelythepushhasbeenbehindsome
ideaoffairnessbasedonnothingratherthantheoriginalideatogiveatemporarymonopolyasanincentiveto
makecreativeworks.
Butregardlessofthat,there'snogoodargumentforanythingbeyondlifeunlessyouare
1. Acorporationfuckingsociety
2. Withinsaidsocietyandfuckinginsane
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[] campelm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ProofpositiveStanLeewillneverdie.
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Ithoughtitwasinfinityminusoneday?
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AsIunderstandit,it's1days,whichrollsbackwardstosomeabsurdlyhighnumberbecauseit'sanunsignedinteger.
Andthat'showyoulevelaBulbasaurfrom1to100.
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[] SgtBrutalisk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndthenGhandidropsnukesonyou.
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Ghandialwaysdroppedthenukeonme.
Ineverwantedtoescalatethingsbuthealwayspulledthenuclearoptiononme.
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[] Mrnoone696 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,infinityminusoneisalsoinfinity,justlikeinfinityminus500quadrillionisalsoinfinity.Samegoesforaddition.
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[] YouStinkCunt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nosilly.itsinfinityandbeyond!
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[] thatsaqualifier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,infinityplusoneday.Can'tmissevenonedayofthosesweet,sweetmouseprofits.
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[] Walt_F undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyone,accordingto/r/conspiracy.
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[] magnumPI611 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewhole"JarJarBinksistheactualdarklordofthesith"conspiracycomestomind.Theoriginalthreadhasmeconvinced,
http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
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[] fdsa4321lbp22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegovernmentkeepsrepostingthisthreadsotheycangetideas
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[] Pugrus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msurethesecondtimetheposteditthatthey'dfigureoutalltheideas,andthethirdtimethepostedittheygotnothingnew.
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[] kingnomzteri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
georgebushkilled2pac
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Obamaisworkingforthegovt.
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Don'tbestoopidthat'simpossible
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[] rexthegawd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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*unpossible
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*unpossable
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[] Rabid_Mongoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherehasbeenacouplereallygoodtheoriesonMichaelJacksongettingcastratedbyhisfatherinorderforhimtocontinuallyreach
thosehighnotes.
Hadmeconvincedforawhile.
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[] busdriverbuddha1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereareoldrecordingsofcastrattiandtheysoundquitedifferentthanMichael.Hewasjustatenorwithanextendedrange,like
FreddieMercury.
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IthinkyoumeanMichaelJordan.MichaelJacksonwasthebasketballplayer
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[] meatgoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Powerful.
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forawhile
Whathappened?
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[] oliverbm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rightupuntilthepointthatyouhadhisplumsinyourmouth?
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[] notreallyanumber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chemicalcastrationisadefinitepossibility.LookathowburlyhisbrothersareandhowslimMichael'sbuildwasasanadult.Itwould
explainwhyheneverhadbiologicalchildrenofhisown(hiskidsarenotfromhissperm).
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[] Bovaloe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thekidisnothisson?
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[] Thedominateforce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nonono!
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[] Douche_Kayak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therewerestoriesfrompeopleclosetohimthatwhentheywouldcallhim,hewouldanswerthephoneandbetalkinginaperfectly
normal,deepvoice.Hejustidolizedthatchildlikevisageandtone.
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[] _Tiffani undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkhewascastratedbutthereissomethingalittledarkerthathappenedtoMJthanjustthebeatingshisfathergavehimand
hissiblings.
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[] enochhenderson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nope...in1993,Mikewaspulledinbythecopsandhadhisjunkphotographedtoseeifthekidthataccusedhimofmolestation
describedthevitiligomarkingsproperly.Apparently,therewasentanythingreportedtobemissing.
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TLDR:Mythbusted
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[] Zebramouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chemicalcastration.
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[] susainemcswaney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfoundthosetheoriesplausibleuntilIlearnedthatLisaMariePresleysaidhisspeakingvoiceinprivatewasthatofanyotheradult
male,andthatthehigh,softvoicewaspartofhispublicpersona.
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[] girllikethat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlltheJacksonshavesoftvoicesthough.HavepeopleneverheardJackiespeak?
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[] TylertheDouche undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheGamesaidthattoo.
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[] piddlystains undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheGame?
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That'stripleh
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Scrolldowntonicknames.
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terrorrising?
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[] mtorr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anotherinterestingpartofthattheoryisitmessedhimupsobadmentallythatheregressedtoaprepubescentagementally.Which,if
true,wouldexplainhisbizarrebehavior.
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[] TailoredBeats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatchangedyourmind?
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[] pemboo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tagree.
IthinktheproblemisthatMichaelbecomeahuge(global?)superstaratsuchayoungage.Hisfatherforcedhim,andhisbrothers,into
thelimelightforallhischildhoodlife.Insteadofgrowingupandbeingachild,hewasforcedtoperformandmissedoutonsomething
wealltakeforgranted.
MJwasasuperbentertainerandshowman,buthegaveuphiswholelifeand(especially)childhoodtogetwherehewas.Itmessed
himupmentallysohewasleftwithmindsetofajuvenilechild.
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[] willun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WasFreddieMercuryalsocastrated?ThetheoryisFreddiedidn'tfixhishorribleteethashethoughtitmightaffecthisvoice.
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[] FireSail undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No...no...that'signorant
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[] fanamana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwouldhavecomeoutinpolicereports.hehadhisjunkdescribedandexaminedfordepositionsinsexabusecases.
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Itcould'vebeensomesortofprocedurethatdamagedtheorganstowheretheydidn'tproducethenecessaryhormones,butleft
themintact.Apermanenteffectmightnothaveevenbeenintentional(probablywasn't).I'velongthoughtthathedidsoundlikea
castrato,anditsoundslikethekindofthinghisfatherwould'vedone.
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IDK,seemsunlikelytome,butIwasonlyspeakingaboutsnipsnipmedievalstyle.
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[] Not_A_Master undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotsayingIbelievethetheory,butthebrainIhadreadbeforestateditwasachemicalcastrationandI'mnotabouttoGooglethat
uptofindoutwhatitwouldorwouldn'tleavebehind.
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[] Pyreit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theamountofopiateshewasonwoulddothesamething.
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Andtheresultsofthoseinspectionsweren'tsubjecttopublicviewing,beingmedicalinnature.
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Theautopsyconfirmeditwasn'ttrue.
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[] Account_of_few_words undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
!?
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Ithappened.MJevenwentonTVafterandescribeditasatraumaticeventforhim.
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Wow.
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[] dubyadubya undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Listento"10,000Watts"offhislastalbum,Invincible.Hesingsentirelyinhislower/"normal"register,it'sdisconcertingbutimpressive.
Hejustpreferredthehigherregister,andhell,ifIcouldhitthosenotesIwouldtoo
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[] IPutTheHotDogInTheBu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IactuallythoughtthatsongwasfakewhenIfirstheardit.Couldn'tbelieveitwasreallyMJ.
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[] KarmaPaymentPlanning undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit.
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[] Willhud98 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HislastalbumwasInvincible.There'syourconspiracyrightthere.
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[] LetMeGDPostAlready undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Listento"MephistoandKevin"byPrimus.
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[] coldblade2000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
2000watts,not10000
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[] captin_fappin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Helistenedtoit5timessohecancallit10000.
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[] Nibbers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'ssplitthedifferenceandcallit6000Watts.
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Well,heprobablylistenedtoit5timesinarow.
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[] mywan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So,it'snotOVER9000?
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[] dubyadubya undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'reright!Mybad,thanks.
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Tobefair,thereisa10,000Maniacs.WheneverIseethatnumberusedincontextofmusic,that'sthefirst(and
sometimestheonly)referencethatregistersinmypeabrain.
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[] elasticcraptastic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anddon'tforgetthealbumthatismuchclosertoMJthan10,000Maniacs....10,000Days
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IlovedTooluntilthispoint,thencameAPerfectCircletheybothkindalostmesomewhere.Ithinkthey
becamemoreofa"musician'sband".LotsofToolfanslovedit(anditISamazingwork,Toolfansareno
dummies)butasacasuallistenerIdigOpiateandUndertowmore.
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[] ikariproject undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,accordingtoMaynardhimselfToolfansare"retards.":P
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/maynardjameskeenanhastwothingsonhismindpuscifer
andwinetoolfanswilljusthavetowait7775457
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[] antonbe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohdearlord,lookatthathaircut!
Ifanything,he'sthetool,nothisfans.
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I'mwithyouallthewayonthat.IcouldlistentoeitherofthosewheneverbutIneedtobeinavery
specificmoodtolistentoandfullyappreciatethelaterstuff.They'recompletelydifferentbands
almost.
AsforAPC,Iwaswiththemuntilemotiveforthemostpart.ButMerDeNomsissuchaperfectalbum
itwasimpossibletofollowup,imo.
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Sotrue:)
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[] faaaack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Emotivekindagrowsonyou.It'snotgreatbuthasacouplesongsIdig.
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[] DaSmegman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
howcouldhehavekids?
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[] OooEnyaFace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'maprettybigMJfanandhavenoproblemadmitting..there'snotasingleJacksongeneinthosekids.Lookatpicturesofhimfrom
OfftheWall(whenhelookedlike...well,ablackmanwithnoplasticsurgery)andthenlookarecentpicturesofthosekids.Noway.
Ofcoursethey'rehiskids,butmorethanlikelynotgenetically.
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Blanketlooksjustlikehim.Princehasvitiligo.Michael'sfatherJoehassomuchwhitemixedinhimhehasgreeneyes,like
Michael'sdaughter.
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It'snotlikethosekidslooklikehim,isit?
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[] LilithKDuat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,hissonalsoseemstohavevitiglio.
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...adoption?
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[] redditfakeyjake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somepeoplebelieveitwasanacnemedicinehegotinpubertythatcausedthis.
http://phys.org/news/201103michaeljacksonchemicallycastratedchild.html
Ialsothinkhewasbiologicallygay.Themoreolderbrothersyouhavethemorelikelyyouaretobegay.Hehadabunchofolder
brothers.HedatedBrookeShieldsinherprimeanddidnothavesexwithher.Lookathistastesinclothesandfashion.Prettydamn
gay,buthecouldnotactonitbecauseofhisbonkersreligiousfamily.
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[] lwash44 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisprettyignorant.
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Yes,reallyignorant.
Phys.org(formerlyPhysorg.com)isaleadingwebbasedscience,researchandtechnologynewsservicewhichcoversa
fullrangeoftopics.
AlsohereisaScientificAmericanarticletitled"HavingOlderBrothersIncreasesaMan'sOddsofBeingGay"
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/havingolderbrothersinc/
ugh,Reddithasreallygonetoshit.
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[] HIGHONNUTMEG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgethisinterestinchildren.I'dsayyourtheoryofgayitypansout.We'retalkingsparklesandrainbowg@y.
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[] used_to_be_relevant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Whatdoesbeinggay/beinginterestedinchildrenhavetodowitheachother?
Ithinkhewasasexual,andhadnodesireforadultrelationshipsandwantedtobechildlike.
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[] HIGHONNUTMEG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uhhuh.
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[] The_Peaky_Blinder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinktheoneIbelieveisthathewasacnemedicationfullofhormonesthatmadehimneverhavepuberty.
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[] upinyabax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hewasacnemedicationfullofhormones
IcandefinitelybelievethatMichaelJackson'shormonesgotspreadaroundonsomekids'faces.
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[] malfeasances undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lmao
iapproveofthiscomment
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[] babybopp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wouldn'takickinthenutsguaranteethesameeffect?
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[] BuzzWeedle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,he'sreferringtoacertaintypeofmusic,theCastrato.It'sreallyhorrible.
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[] xbigman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlearnedabouttheCastratoforawhile.It'shorribletheydidthattoyoungboysbutthentheyhadnormallygoodcareers.Sad,
though,aboutwhatwouldhappentotheirbodieswithouttestosterone.Ithinkthereareafewrecordingsofthelastofthe
castratossomewhereoutthere,listenedtotheminaclassonce,beautifulvoices.
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[] pengalor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'scertainlyahorriblepractice,Ican'tdenythatitsoundsbeautifulthough.
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[] BuzzWeedle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,thankgoditwasmadeillegal.
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[] that_Dave_you_know undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didtheycutthefrankorthebeansoffwiththatprocedure?
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Thebeans,that'swherethetestosteroneisproducedandthat'swhatcausesthepitchdropduringpuberty.
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[] MengerianMango undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justthebeans.
...
Maybe"just"isn'ttheword...Notexactlyinsignificant.
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[] MirabilisSum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol
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[] kenjutsudude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beans,Ibelieve.
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[] CandySlawws undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beans
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[] bigben56 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyfuckthat'sdisgusting.
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[] badashel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnyonementionSandyHookyet?
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Whatevidenceistherethatthiswasaconspiracy?
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[] jamieC27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YuriGagarinwasn'tthefirstmaninspace,justthefirstonetomakeitbackalive.
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[] cameneyeha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheFDRadministrationletPearlHarborhappen.
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Jetfuelcan'tburnfalseflags.
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Yeah,notsomuch.Therereallyisnoevidencetosupportthistheory.Amessagesayingthenegotiationsweretobebrokenoffwas
deliveredtotheUSambassador,andthatarrivedlate.Nothingtoindicatethatanyoneknewtherewastobeanattack.
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[] cameneyeha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Cableaftercableofdecryptions,scoresofmilitarymessagesthatAmericawasintercepting,clearlyshowedthatJapaneseships
werepreparingforwarandheadingstraightforHawaii."http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408
thiswaswrittenbyaWW2navymanandveteran,notsomefoilheadedweirdo.
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[] lamabaronvonawesome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheLusitaniawhichwhensunkgottheUSintoworldwarone,wasapassengershiploadedwithmunitionsandtheGermansactually
tookoutahugeadaNYpapersayinganyshipcomingisgonnagetsunk.Sotheywentfullofmunitionsandpassengers...ummm.
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[] Zxyquz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowifpeopleoutsideofCanadawillknowwhatI'mtalkingabout,butI'mprettycertainthosetrainaccidentswerecausedbyoil
pipelineadvocates.Foreachofthosemajortraincrashes,thosetrainscarriedoilandthecrasheshappenedasthepipelinewasupfor
debate.
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[] pdpedro77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gotafriendinrail.Theysaythesamething.
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I'vebeenpokingintothematterasatrainenthusiast.
WhileIhaveuncoverednotangibleevidencefrommediareportsitdoessoundextremelysuspect.
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[] midnight_nudist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeensayingthesamething!
Oncethepipelinegottheaxethereweretrainexplosionsalmostdailywithcrudeoil.
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Orsympatheticfolksinthemediaplayedupthosetrainaccidentsmorethantheynormallywould.Soundsmorelikelytome,butI'mnot
Canadian.
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I'montheeasternU.S.Ithoughtthiswastheassumedthought...
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[] HappyInNature undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavelivedrightnexttoafreighttrainline.ThereweremultiplederailmentsinasmallareaoverthecourseoftheyearthatIlivedthere.
Alotofthisinfrastructureisveryveryoldandneedstobereplaced....
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[] Tranger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldsomebodyelaborateplease?
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Trainderailmentshappenallthetime.I'mmorefortheconspiracythatrailroadsrelysoheavilyonoiltransferthattheylobbytonot
makepipelinesandclaimit's"green"wheninrealitythetrainsaremorepronetoleaksandarefarworsefortheenvironment.
It'sgreat,it'slikethe"bootleggersandbaptists."
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[] kolgatesmiles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pipelinesblowuptoo!Differentfromacrash,butsimilaroutcomes.Sadlythough,Icouldtotallyseethis.Althoughtrainsdoderailalot
duetoaginginfrastructure.
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[] The_Burg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenifitwerethecase,wouldthisnotbeasubstantialpointforpropipeliners?MuchofRedditfailstounderstandthevastdangerthat
isplacingthatmuchoilontoanopenrailroad.
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[] Ledvolta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Man,Isaidthatthedayithappened.SogladI'mnottheonlyone,nowIfeellessparanoid.
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[] SicInOmnibus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Quiteafewnasty,explosiveoiltrainwreckshappenedintheU.S.too.FunnyhowIhaven'theardaboutanysinceKeystoneXL
stoppedbeingthestarnewsstory.
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AlsothemediareportsonitallsmelledlokeBS.IknowsBSwhenIsmellsit.
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[] lowrads undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amorebelievableconspiracyisthattheexecutivebranchwadedintothepipelineissueinordertosupporttheinterestsofoneoftheir
biggestsupporters.Backintheearly2000s,BerkshireHathaway,aegisofWarrenBuffet,tookamassivestakeinrailservingallareas
ofcoalproductionandcrudetransportationinlessdevelopedareas.Hehascontinuedtodoubledownonthisinvestmentallthewayup
tillthisyearwhenheacquiredanevengreaterstakeinOctober.
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Buffetisamajorsupporterofthepresident,andthedevelopmentofapipelinedirectlycountershisvestedinterests.
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[] Itstricky13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Correlationdoesnotindicatecausation.Conspiracytheoristsdon'tunderstandthis.Youcantassumethatbecausethesetrains
crashedatthesametimeasthedebateoverpipelines,thattheyarethusconnected.
Theproblemwithconspiracytheoristsisthattheyignoretherealitythatcoincidencesdoinfactoccurallthetime.
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[] unicornbloods undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trainderailmentsareverycommon:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2010%E2%80%93present)
Youjusthearaboutthemostsensationalones,especiallyLacMeganticduetoitbeingsuchalargescaletragedy.
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[] mainewonk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhaveanyconceptionofhowdifficultsuchathingwouldbetopulloffwithoutthegovernment,whichishostiletotheperpetrator,
discoveringtheaffairandprosecuting?
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[] Devilishlygood98 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Almostlikeasabotage?
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[] pipblip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andpeoplecalledmecrazyforsayingthatwhenthefistaccidenthappened...buttheystoppedcallingmesoonasthesecond
happened.
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[] NSA_Chatbot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theystartinonconspiraciestoo,likehowallthetrainsareownedbyabillionaire.
I'veseenourtrains.Nobodyownsthefuckingthingsbecausethey'redecrepitasfuck.
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Ithinkyoumightright,andnotjustinCanada.JustafewweeksagointhestateIliveintherewere2trainaccidentsoveraweekend,
bothresultinginoilspills.Thiswasafteranewsstorywasranaboutpeoplequestioningthesafetyoftransportingoilthroughpipelines
liketheKeystoneXLpipeline.Itwasveryoddtimingandalmostseemedironic.
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[] idspispopd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkitwasasdirectaconspiracyasthatbuttheoilindustrystillcausedittohappeninalessdirectway.
TheoilcamefromNorthDakotaatatimewhentheindustrywashittingitspeakandtheindustrywastryingtomovemoreofitout
fasterineverydirectionawayfromthemiddleofthecontinent,hencethecaseforpipelines.
Atthesametimethefederalgovernmentcouldn'thavegiventwoshitsaboutspendingmoneyonrailsafety,butdidliketheideaof
raisingtheGDPthroughrawresourceexportswhilealsocreatingafewbluecollarjobs,mostlytemporary.
Theresultisthatwhentheinevitablemassivecrashandexplosionhappenedtheoilindustrywasreadytotakeadvantage(ofa
problemtheyindirectlycausedbyloadingthetrackswiththeirdangerousproduct)bysaying"ifyou'dgivenuspipelinesthiswould
neverhavehappened".Therealdiscussionweshould'vebeenhavingwasaboutrailsafetyandlimitingtheoilindustrywhereitwas
beingunsafe.
Fastforwardtotodayandtheysaythepipelinesaren'teconomicallyviableprojectswiththepriceofoilatitscurrentstate.That'snot
evenconsideringthefactthatit'sadyingindustrylongterm.
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[] buddylee_moa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Greattheory!Canadadoesn'tknowhowtodotheaftermathpropogandalikeAmericalolmorecrisisactorsneeded.Badones
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[] EJericjackson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CNRandCPRarebothdespicable.theywillandhavedoneANYTHINGtogetwhattheywant.Thegovernmentwon'ttouchthem,they
havesomuchoftheeconomybytheballs
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[] Tampondestroyer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MydadandbrotherinlawbothworkforCNRandI'veneverheardmydadsayagoodthingaboutthatcompany.It'srunby
assholesapparently.Onetimetheysuspended/disciplinedtwotraindrivers(Iforgettheactualtitle)becausetheysaidtherewastoo
manytraincarstotakeonthistripanditwouldn'tbesafe,sothenoneofthebossestookthetrainhimselfandcrashedit.
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[] giraffevomitfacts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Traincrash/derailfrequently.Wedon'tusuallydiscussthembecausetheyaren'tcarryingoilanddon'tblowup.Thegreatmajorityof
traincargoisnotinflammableorreactive.
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[] RareBlur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'stheinfamousmissisagatraindelarlment
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Andoiltrafficontherailwayshavemassivelyincreasedrecentlysoitmakessensemoretrainaccidentsinvolveoilnow.
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[] Djkelly559 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
damn.Icanactuallybelievethis.
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[] hafetysazard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereistoomuchevidencetosuggestthatitisn'ttrue.TheTSBinvestigatestrainderailmentsandincludethecausesintheir
reports.Ifsabotage,ortampering,wassuspectedtheywouldlookintoitfurther,evenputtingoutterrorismrelatedwarnings.
Theusualcausesofderailmentsarebrokenwheels,brokenrails,washouts,equipmentfailure,operatorerror,etc.Ifsomebody
wentoutthereandplantedexplosives,ortamperedwithequipment,itwouldbequiteobvioustoinvestigators.Everymajorrail
terminalinCanadausuallyhiresCarmen,andcarinspectors,tomakesurecarsareokaytotravelbeforetheyareallowedbackout
onthemainline.Ifsomeoneplantedexplosivesonawheel,theCarmenwouldprobablyfindthem.Ifnot,thenthecompanyand
TSBwouldtracewherethecarshadbeen,whichyards,whichtracks,andwouldexaminesecuritycamerafootagefromyardsand
fromcustomer's.
Itisprettyhardtoreplicatemetalfatigueandstressfractures.
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[] darthpolar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idonotbelievepipelineadvocateswouldkillallofthosepeople.Iftheydid,thiswouldhavebeendetected.AndIdon'tthink
thereisaCanadiancopwhowouldlooktheotherway.47peoplediedincludinga4yearoldgirlanda9yearoldgirl.The
guiltresultingfromsuchaheinousactwouldbetoomuch.Atleastoneconspiratorwouldcomeforwardandrattheothers
out.
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[] raezin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Staygolden,ponyboy.
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Money.Lotsandlotsofmoney.Companieskillpeopleinadvertently,aswellasintentionally,allthetime!Lifeinsurance,
forfuckssakes!?!Thatsolelyexistsforwhenyoudie,someonemaygetmoneyforit.Peoplearesickandevil.
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Yeah,thetimingofthecrashesweretoogood.LikeIhavenotheardofanytraincrashesuntillthepipelinetalksstarted,then
suddenlytwotrainwrecksinhalfayear?
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[] RareBlur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trainderailmentsanddisastersarenotanythingnewunfortunately...
Thepipelinetalksweregoingonforyearsandyears.
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[] yalpelgoog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Oilbyrailincreasedsomethinglike14,000%(yes,thatsnotatypo)inthesametimeframe.Therewasareasonwhypeople
weresoeagertobuildpipelines.Also,I'mprettysureanotherrailtraincrashedacoupleweeksafterKeystonehaditsfinal
naildrivenin.Additionally,therailcompaniesmadeashitloadofmoneybyblockingthosepipelines.Therealconspiracyon
KeystonewasbytheSaudis,coal,andrail.
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[] yalpelgoog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oilbyrailincreasedsomethinglike14,000%(yes,thatsnotatypo)inthesametimeframe.Therewasareasonwhypeople
weresoeagertobuildpipelines.Also,I'mprettysureanotherrailtraincrashedacoupleweeksafterKeystonehaditsfinal
naildrivenin.Additionally,therailcompaniesmadeashitloadofmoneybyblockingthosepipelines.Therealconspiracyon
KeystonewasbytheSaudis,coal,andrail.
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[] hurpaderp666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,buttherewasalsoaMASSIVEincreaseinrailtrafficbecauseoftheincreasedoilbeingshipped.Somoretrains,and
longeronesatthat,meansmoreofachanceforaccidents.
HOWEVER,thoseaccidentsarearguablemorehighlightedbythepresstopushthepipelinenarrative.
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Ahyes,thefarright,prooil,mediaarmoftheconservativegovernmentknownastheCBC.
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Yeah.Thecompaniesmightnothavedirectlycausedtheincident,buttheyhadtohavesomeroleinhowmuchthose
accidentshaveplayedinthemedia.Basedofftheothercommentssayingaccidentshappenalot..
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[] hurpaderp666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisishowalotofpoliticalagendaswork.Theycombthenewsforthingstheycantrumpettosuittheirnarrative.
Theydon'thavetocausetheevents,theyjusthavetodrawattentiontothemandspinthemtheirway.
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[] Flypaste undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andthentheyeitherstoppedcompletely,orstoppedbeingreported.
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[] amazonallie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican't..
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[] ThePooba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
therehadntbeenanoiltraincrashin10yearsbeforeorsincethose2
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[] amazonallie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Untrue..TherehavebeenseveralinCanada.
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[] 2_l8_m8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoumeantheoneinLacMagentic?
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[] Poker2662 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whilethatwasamajorevent,IbelieveOPisreferringtotwomorerecentcrudeoiltrainderailmentsthathappenedthisyearin
Alberta.However,thosetwoderailmentsreceivedverylittleairtimeintheUSbecausenoonewashurtandtherewasn'tmuchfor
thepublictobeoutragedat.
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[] HyperboleHelper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WehasplentyofproblemswithoiltraincrashesintheUSaswell,buttheyhappenedinflyoverstatesandtheonlypersonthatgave
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themanyrealcoveragewasRachelMadow,sonobodycared.
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[] John_Barlycorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonethatlivesina"Flyoverstate"Gofuckyourself.
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[] TheBaussman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
that'sbecauseoilpipelinesaren'tasmuchofatopicofpoliticaldebateinamerica.
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[] NoFunRob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUShasbuiltahugenumberofpipelinesexactlywhiledebating,andprotestingagainsttheoneKeystoneline.
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[] PyramidKingReuben undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisconstantantipipelinepropagandacomingfromtheleft.Isuspectthishastodowith(D)donorsWarrenBuffet&Bill
Gateshavingrailwayinterests.BuffetandGatesmakeallthatmoneyshippingoilfromCanadatoTexasontheirtrains.
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[] midnight_nudist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkpeoplearemainlyagainstthepipelinebecauseitissupposedtogoovertheogallalahaquifer.
Pipelinesleak,andhydrocarboncontaminationintothelargestaquiferintheUnitedStateswouldbecatastrophic.
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It'sjustweirdthatwehaveadded11,000milesofnewpipelinesinceKeystonewasfirstdebated.Iguessthose
otherpipelinesaren'tgoingovervaluablenaturalresources?Ordoyoureallythinkit'sthatoutlandishthatthetwo
richesmeninAmericawouldbelobbyingfortheirinvestments?
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/16/3634089/oilpipelineskeepgettingbuilt/
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[] AnUnkindness0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mightalsohavetodowiththeenvironmentalimpactforapipelinethatwilladdatmostfiftypermanentjobsandsimply
carryCanadianoiltothecoastforexport,doingnothingforourownoilindependence,economy,orsafety.Oh,butno,
conspiracy!
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IsyourproblemwithpipelinesortheKeystonespecifically?
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noagendalistener?Noonetalksaboutthis.
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Huh,TIL.
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[] Cybertronian10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheJohnFKennedyassasinationwasprobablynotasstraightforwardaswaspresented
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[] crazy_chicken_lady undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatXcompany/organisation/charity/governmentisbeingdeceptiveformoneyand/orpower.Everyonecomesdowntobeingrunby
peopleandpeoplehaveflaws.I'mnotaconspiracynutbutI'llneverfullytrustsomethingrunbypeopleIdon'tpersonallyknow.
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[] Reoh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknowhowcompanieslatelyhavebeencaughtinstallingalotofbackdoorsandspywareintotheirowncomputers?
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Theconspiracyisthatthey'reforcedtodosobytheUSgovt.andthereasontheydon'treallytalkaboutthemisbecausethey'vebeen
gagordered.Itmakessensedoublysowhentheypretendtoremovethem,onlytohavejustchangedthemalittletohideit.
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NahIthinktheyarejustscummy.Idon'tthinktheUSgovernmentreallyhasanypoweroverChinesecompanies.
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[] XFX_Samsung undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasinfactinsidejoborattheveryleastthebigheadsinchargewereawareoftheeventsunfolding.Allforeasyaccesstotheeast
withthepublicsupport.
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Ifthatwerethecasewouldn'ttheysetituptolooklikeIraqwasinvolved?
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[] GreasyAssMechanic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseitwouldbemucheasiertomakeitlooklikeafringeextremistgroupdiditthanawellestablishedgovernment.Justa
guessthough.
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Whatdifferencedoesitmake?TotheapatheticAmerican,thewholeMiddleEastisjustonebigcountrywithoilandMuslims.
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[] trainspotting2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatit'sthesameguypostingthisquestionevery3days,inanefforttogetasmanyfakeinternetpointstoasmanydifferentaccounts
aspossible.
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and?
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[] trainspotting2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
noandthen
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fairdeuce
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[] LeftysWheelchair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
R+L=J
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Whatdoesthismean??
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[] LeftysWheelchair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GameofThronestheory.Ifyou'reintotheshow,andwillingtospoilsomethingprettymajor..Googleit.Ifyouwannagoinblind.
Stayawayfromanythingregardingthis.
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Ty.NeverwatchedtheshowalthoughIhearditwasprettygood.
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[] vanmoonshine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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9/11wasaninsidejob,literallyadecadeofevidence:https://youtu.be/xqqelDq4P48
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ConsideryourscorevsthatoftheJ.M.C.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3ulxrl/what_conspiracy_theory_is_probably_true/cxfvwj9Andhowsadthatis...
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[] DarkSayed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUSgovernmentsupportsISIS.
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Idontbuyhowcantheyhide,theworldtodayisallconnected,Idontbeliveyoucankill100peopleandsimplyhide.
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[] Frosty849 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheycreatedISIS.AndalQaeda.They'reahangoverfromthelate70's,early80'swhentheywerefightingthesoviets.TheUSarmed,
trainedandfundedAfghaniMujahideenstofightfortheminMuslimcountries.
ThesearethesamerebelswhotookdownGadafiin2011(alsoarmedbytheUS)laterwentontoformISIS.
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[] Oogimauskii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Antivirussoftwaresaretheonesmakingtheviruses
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[] kegdr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onasimilarnote,Iconsideralotofthemajorantivirussoftware(mainlyNorton)asvirusesthemselves.Wheneverit'scomepre
installedonaPCthatIhavetosetupithaseatenatCPUpowerconstantly,keepspoppingupwithallthefuckingupgradesandthe
"yourcomputerisatrisk"eventhoughyouonlyjustturnedonthedamnthingbullshit.
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[] mofomeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.It'sthemostsuccessfulpieceofmalwareinexistence:Itactuallygetspeopletopayrealmoneyforit.
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[] Lemerney2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
kindarelevant
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ohshit
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ehh...icouldbelieveitbutthenwouldn'ttherebemorevirusesformacs?it'ssuchahighendconsumerhappymarketwhywouldthey
leaveitempty?iguessmaybeapplepaysthemoff?
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[] Parillion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Macshaveonlystartedbecomingpopularforthemainstreaminthelast6orsoyears.Beforethen,onlyenthusiastsandpeople
whoneededthem,ownedthem.AnothercontributingfactoristhatMacisaverysimilartoLinux.It'sverydifficulttoplantvirusesin
macs,whichiswhyamajorityofvirusesarebasedintheBIOSnow.
2015sawMacsgettinghitwithmorevirusesthanever.Ifthetheoryistobebelieved,youneedtocreateaneedforaproduct
beforeyoucansellit.Macsarenowaprimetargetbecausewhenyoujustspent$1000+onalaptop,you'renotgoingtoreallycare
aboutforkingout$50tokeepitprotected.
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[] DennyCH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sbeenprovenwithMcAfee
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Source?
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[] Oogimauskii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatitstrue?ornot?
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Why?
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[] WertyBurger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyoudownloadantivirussoftware.Isthatarealquestion?
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Whythefuck,wouldanantivirusgiveuavirus?Howdoesitgiveuoneinthefirstplace?Doesitgivealittletagtodownload
yourantivirus
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Areyoucomputerilliterate?
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NoIjustdon'tunderstandhowyou'reantivirusisgoingtobepriority?Likeyourbasicallyhopingtheuserwill
searchup"virusblahblah"andyou'reantivirusisgoingtobepriority
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Ican'tevenunderstandwhatyou'resaying.
Howhardisittounderstandthattheantiviruscompaniescouldbefundingthedevelopmentoftheviruses
thattheyprotectagainst?
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[] WertyBurger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1. Anantiviruscompanymakesabunchofviruses
2. Someonewithavirusgetsantivirussoftware
3. Antiviruscompanymakesmoney
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Howdotheymakemoney?Byhavingblindluckthattheuserwilldownloadtheirantivirus?
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Howdoyouexactlyprioritiseyourownantivirustothethousandsofotherswithoutdroppingahugehint.
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Bethefirstandbestatcleaningitandhaveitknownatthetopofgoogleresults.
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YeaI'mprettysuretheywouldn'tbeabletostayatthetopforlong.Haveyouforgottenmorepopular
oneslikeBitDefenderandAvast?
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[] JUSTpleaseSTOP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kurtdidn'tkillhimself.Definitelymurderedbyhiswife.
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[] Jordaniera undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCarolinaPanthersare101.
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[] radically_unoriginal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whenthisquestiongetsaskedevery2weekspeoplestealpeople'sideasfromthelastonetoreapthekarma.
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[] arthursbeardbone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noneofthem.Occam'sRazor
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[] shitbric undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeneralButlerthemostdecoratedMarineinAmericawastoleadacoupof50,000troopsontothewhitehouseandestablisha
dictatorship.
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[] Cant_Remorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'stheonewherebankersandbusinessmentriedtotakeoverright?Thatonewasreal,thegeneraleventestifiedincourt
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[] shitbric undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatdoesn'tmakeitnotaconspiracy.Thatisexactlywhatitwasaconspiracythatturnedouttobetrue.
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[] fsamuel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Again?
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[] Allmynewusernames undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ChristiansareencouragedtomakebigfamiliessotheycangrowaChristianarmyandhavegreaterpowerinthefuture.Itisbeneficial
fornonbelieverstonotprocreatesotheirkinddiesoffandChristianswillmultiply.
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That'sjustReligioningeneralbro...
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[] SUCK_MY_DICK_THANKS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkwhatyoumeanttosaywasMuslims
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[] YukinoKage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shavingcreammakersknowthesecretofhairregrowth.Someonebaldputthatshitontheirheadandseeifitworks.
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[] ptera_tinsel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howwouldtheypossiblymakemoresellingshavingcreamthanahairgrowthfoam?
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[] m0nkm0de undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forreal?
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Makeitso
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[] Notenough1997 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydon't.Itjustmakesyourfacefeelgross.Source:hadtoleaveshavingcreamonmyfaceforanhouradayforacoupledays.
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Goingtogotryitonmybaldasschinwillpostresultsasap.
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[] saisar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyoutellmewhichbrandIwilltryitandcomebackwithresultsin6months.
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[] ladybug561 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TrySkintimate.Anyoneofthatbrand.Iswearitdoes.
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Details?Whydoesitmakehairgrow?
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[] ladybug561 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NoideabutI'veuseditandcompareditwithothershavingcreamandforsomereason,eitherIgetaclosershavewith
othershavingcreamsoritdoesactuallycausehairtogrowlol.Imean,marketingwiseitwouldmakesense.You'dhave
toshavemoreoften.Notsurewhichisthecase.
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this
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[] wystanII undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thattheworldisnotrunbythepeopleyoufigurerunit.
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Youmean,theKochbrothersaren'treallyincharge?
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[] strobino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
toeasytobetakendownifeverybodyknowsyou,justrunpuppets
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[] fifteen_minutes_late undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?!Youmeantotellmethatthecommonpeopleoftheworldaren'tintheknowaboutthingsandareactuallybeingliedto,misled
anddeceivedbymultiplepowersthatbe?/s
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allofthem.allatonce
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Ithinkit'sbarelyrunatall
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[] myaccisbest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Waityoumeanrichpeoplewithteamsoflobbyistsdon'truntheworld?
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[] NaturalSelectionDied undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tknowmostbillionairesnamesbuttheytreattheworldliketheirkingdomintheformofindustriesratherthanland.Theyown
muchoftheworldsresources,butit'sintheformofmoneyinsteadofphysicalresources,moneycanbetransformedintoanyphysical
resourceaslongaswebelieveinitsvalue.
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There'stherub.
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[] Schmeery1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rothschild'sisthattoofarfetched?
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No,you'renotfaroff.
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[] IKWJZN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
moneyandthepeoplewhohavethemostofit
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Mmwellyouseemtohaveitdown.Broad,butsuccinct.Ilikeit:)
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[] Surfing_Ninjas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyoulookathowUSpoliticsactuallywork,youknowthisistrue.Ourpresidentisprettymuchafigurehead.Whilehavingsomepower,
hewillalwaysbeoverruledbytherestofcongressandtheCIA/FBIcankillanyonetheywantandcoveritupincrediblywell.I'malmost
certainatleast1USpresidenthasbeenkilledorattackedbyagroupledbypeopleinpowerintheUS.
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Andyou'repartofthenewworld.Thisshit'sbeengoingonforyonkselsewhere...andhistory,I'mtold,repeatsitself.
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JohnWilkesBoothwasalmostcertainlyamemberofthe[KnightsoftheGoldenCircle].
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[] bdjumper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisthat?
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Oopsforgotthelink:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle
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Iknewitwasn'treallythecorporations.
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Theissue'salittlestickierthanthat,isn'tit?
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[] Pacinos_WigV4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisalmostcertainlyverytrue,it'sjustnotanorganizedeffortlikeBilderbergortheIMForwhateverthefuckAlexJonesisbabbling
aboutthesedays.It'sjustthatourpoliticalsystemlendsitselftocorporationsbeingabletobuylegislation.
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Mythoughtsprecisely.I'mnoconspiracytheoristthinkingofsinistercabalsbehindtheworldweknow,ratherspeakingtotheidea
thatgovernancedescribedtheoreticallyisnotgovernanceinpractice.
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[] Bigred2989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverytimeObamaopenshismouthaboutguncontrol,there'srecordnumbersoffirearmsalesforthemonth.He'sbeencalledthe
greatestgunsalesmanofalltimebecauseofthis.Whatifthat'sthegoalandhe'stryingtogetasmanypeoplearmedforanupcoming
invasion?
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[] cjlutera undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Morelikely,he'sbuyingcalloptionsongunstocks.
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Thatsjustsuccessfulrightwingnoisemachine/nrapropaganda
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Ifheboughtstockinarmsmanufacturersandthensaidheplannedonintroducinglegislationbanninganythingbiggerthana.22,he
couldbuyathirdterm
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Hecouldjustbegettingpaymentbythegunlobby.
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[] BigDiggerNick74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwishhe'dshutthefuckup.Ammopricesarealreadygoingupagain.
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[] Gbcue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatifthat'sthegoalandhe'stryingtogetasmanypeoplearmedforanupcominginvasion?
Ifhewantsthat,allhewouldhavetodoisgetridofallguncontrollaws.I'dfinallybeabletobuymachineguns,suppressors,short
barreledriflesandshotguns.
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[] Lordofwar1111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcandothisnow,howeverpre1986machinegunsarestupidexpensivebecauseofdemandandthestampscostmoneyand
timefortherest.I'vebeenthinkingaboutgettingasuppressed.22justforquietplinking.ThenagainIwouldn'tworryaboutitunless
ImovedbackintoahouseoutoftownanywayssinceIalwaysgotoarangeandwearfullprotectivegearanyways.
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[] AyySStim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IneverthoughtaboutbuyingaguntilltheObamaera
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Agreatdealofgunsalesduringthesesalespikesaren'tthestereotypicalgunhoarders,butinvestorsbuyinggunsindangerofbeing
bannedandsellingthemformuchhigherprofitslateraslegacyguns.
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[] claymonstr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WeshouldallheaddowntoGunther'sGuns.
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[] 2SJSlim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedoesn'tevenhavetosayanythingaboutguncontrol.Iusedtoworkforasportinggoodscompany,andbothtimeshegotelected
wesoldrecordamountsofgunsandammunition.
TheNRAspreadsthemessagethatDemocratswanttooutlawgunscompletely,whichmakespeoplebuyguns"whiletheystillcan."
Meanwhilegunmanufacturersarelaughingallthewaytothebank.
TherealconspiracyherewouldbethattheNRAandgunmanufacturerswantDemocratstobeelected,becausetheyknowthat1)It
willcauseahugewaveofgunpurchases,and2)Nothingwillactuallychangewithgunlaws.Win/Win.
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IrememberlookingatSmithandWesson'sandRuger'sstockandtheysawthepriceoftheirsharesskyrocketafter08.Ialsowork
inagunstoreandrememberlastyearduringthe855scarepeoplerunninginlookingrobuyallthe5.56ammotheycould,eventhe
stuffnotbeingbanned(wedidn'tevenhaveany855instock).Thefearmongeringisastoundingandsomethingthatpissesmeoff
abouttheNRAandmostconservativegroups.
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[] Andyk123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,Iworkedatasportinggoodsstorein'0809,and.22ammowasflyingofftheshelvesassoonaswecouldstockit.We
wereorderingmorethaneverbefore,butwehadarainchecklistamilelong.Itwassofuckingstupid.Thatammoisn'tgoing
tobeoutlawedintheUSever.
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[] speedisavirus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellifhewasn'ttryingtotakegunsaway,andidiotstateslikeMaryland,therewouldn'tevenbeasuspicion.Itsalmostbelievableheis
gettingkickbacksforitsinceheconstantlyrunstothatandsurroundshimselfwithpeoplethatknowabout0%aboutgunsyetspouts
theshitthesemoronssay.
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[] HydroTherapy1952 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatifheisjustafuckingidiot?
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It'smorelikely,yeah.
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Maybeheintendstobetraytheotherreptilians.
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ThankssssssObama...
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[] xman2987 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisssssss
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[] The_Town_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsaRepublican,I'dbemorethanhappytoforgeteverythinghe'sdoneifthisturnedouttobethecase.
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What'shedone?
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[] eponabestpony undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thedamngaysandmarajawannaa
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[] emma_pants undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thingshewasn'trelatedtoarehisfault,unlesshe'sinmypartythenthingsthathewasn'trelatedtoistheother
party'sfault.
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[] Johnbrownspork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'smorelikelyhe'stryingdisarmpeopleforanupcomingrebellion.
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[] 4x49ers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'relinktoanyproposedlegislationtakingpeople'sgunsawaydidn'twork.Canyoutryitagain?
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[] aswichitafalls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseeyou'rerefrainingfromresponding.
Doyoucaretoexplainwhyadefactobanisn'taban?BecausetheSCOTUSdisagrees.Specificallywhenitcomesto
firearms.
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Noonehaslinkedanyactualproposedlegislationtotakegunsawayfromgunowners,as/u/Johnbrownsporkclaimedis
happening.Iseenopointinrespondedtononsenseopinionclaimsthatcan'tbeprovenordisproved.I'magunowner,
openObamacritic,butsolelyonthetopicofgunshe'sbeenoneofthebestpresidentsinmylifetime,butagain,that's
justmyopinion.
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Waytoavoidthepointagain.
The5.56banwasaveryrealproposal.AbasicGooglesearchwillshowyouthat,sinceapparentlyyoudon'tread
thenews.Thereasonitfailedisbecauseitwasadefactobanonfirearmsthatuseit.Defactobanshavebeen
ruledagainstbytheSCOTUSbecausetheyare,inessence,actualbans.ThisisthesamereasonChicagoans
canfinallyownhandgunsChicagodidn'thaveanactualban,justadefactoone.ButtheSCOTUScalledthem
outonit.
Butyeah,keepstickingyourheadinthesand.Ignoringthefactsisagreatwaytokeepthatillusionup.
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Doyouwanttohaveanactualdiscussion,ornamecallandjustassumeyou'reright?
The5.56banwasgrandstanding,sabrerattling,nothingmore.Ijudgepoliticiansbytheiractions,nottheir
words.Wordsaremeaningless.ObamahasbeenGREATforgunownersandenthusiastslikemyself.It's
likehowmanyRepublicansalwayssaytheysupportthetroops,visitmilitarybasesandwhatnot,but
repeatedlyvotedownpayingforbasicveteransbenefitsandprovidingfundingforprogramsthatwere
actuallypromisedtoourenlistedmenandwomen.
So,again,Iaskforanyactualproposedlegislationtotakeawaygunsfromgunowners,asisalwaysthe
ballyhooedclaim.
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Heveryrecentlytriedtoban5.56basedonblatantlies,whichwouldobsoleteagoodnumberofcurrentfirearms.So...
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[] Dadentum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theciacreatedcrackandaids.
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Theglutenfreecrazewascreatedbypeoplewithceliacdiseasetogetfoodcompaniestomakemoreoptionsforthem,andthefood
companieswherehappytoobligebymakinguptheideaofglutensensitivity.
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[] Symotix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisseemsreallypossibleandusefull,atonetimeIhadaechanchestudentwhowashadaallergyforglutenandhecouldn'teat
anything.Hehadtobringhisownspecialbreadandotherstuff.Itsgoodthatthereisnowmoreoptionsbutthewayhowisshot.
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[] 8bitlisa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowifwecouldonlydothisfordairy...Thatwouldbegreat.
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[] writetehcodez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfatherinlawwasdiagnosedwithCeliacin2004,andletmetellyouit'snojoke.ThediseasecanpresentasmoregeneralGI
issues,soIMOitwasprobablyunderdiagnosedforareallylongtime.
IthinkatsomepointinthemidaughtsCeliacstartedgettingmediaattention("Isyourbreadkillingyou?WatchEyewitnessNewsat
11."),andafterthatthediagnosispendulumstartedswingingtheotherway.Now,insteadofhavingIBS,whichisreallylessadisease
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andmoreadescriptionofsymptoms,peoplehadaconcretediagnosisofarealdisease.
Withincreasedmediaattentioncomestheproverbialambulancechaserspeoplelookingtoprofitfromtheattention.Allofasudden
there'snotjustCeliac,butothernonspecificglutensensitivities.What'smore,suddenlywehave"experts"extollingthevirtuesofliving
aglutenfreelifestyle.MoreGFmeansmoreproductsales,moreprofits,etc.
Soisitaconspiracytheory?Idon'tthinkit'sasmuchaconspiracytheoryasitisamatterofcompaniescapitalizingonanewmarket
createdbyanincreaseinCeliacdiagnoses.
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[] ALexusOhHaiNyan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallyitmightjustbethatreadingcomprehensionisshitinthiscountry.AndthatWilliamDavisreleasedabookabouthowmucha
carbohydratelikewheatismakingusfat,andcertainreadersblewthatupinto"Right.Gluten'sbadandweshouldallstopeatingit."
http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2013/04/earthtojillianitsnotaboutgluten/
Worryingabouthegluteninourmodern,refinedwheatislikingworryingabouttheleadinthebulletpointedatyourhead.
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[] doctor6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionthatglutenfreefoodisabout20100%moreexpensivethantheequivalents
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[] finalsleep3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisone'sreal.
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[] Cloudy_mood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatandalsoforsomepeopleIknowthatactuallyfollowitrigidly,theyloseweight.SoalotofgirlsthatIknowlostweightbyclaiming
theyhaveanallergy.
Butitseemsnowthatpeoplehaveintolerancestocertainfoods,soIdon'tknow.
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[] princessdollyxo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sthetruthabouttheglutenfreecraze.
First.Putyourselfinthemindsetofamiddleagedwomanwithplentyofwineandplentyoftimeonherhands.
You'rejustlearninghowtonavigatetheInternetandyoucomeacrossablogger.Sheisbeautiful,she'syourage,she'sthin,she's
happy,andabigpartaboutherblogisthatsheisaceliac!
Youlookather.Apictureofwhoyouwanttobe.Andyoulookatyourself.45.Saggyskin.Stomachfat.Ohno.
Soyoulookupthisdisease.Maybeyouhaveitandfixingthiscanhelpyourproblems!Itcanmakeyouliketheblogger!Soyougeton
WebMDandyoureadthedescriptions.Wow.Diarrhea,nausea,etcetera.Youhaveallthose!!
Howtofixit?Oh,cutoutallgluten.
What'sthenextstepforthewhinywino?Cuttingoutallbread,carbs,etc.Andyouknowwhathappenswhenyouremovecarbs?
You.Feel.Amazing.
Youloseatonofweightinthefirstweek.Butyourcoworkersarenoticing,andthelobstersatworkarepickingatyou,tryingtodrag
youbackintothepot."Youlooksohungry.Whydon'twehavesomefood?Lookatthispizza!"
Youcan'tsayyou'redieting.No!Dietingisunfeminist!You'resick.Youhaveceliac!
"Icant,gertrude.Iamaceliacnow."
Anddeepdown,youknowit'salie,butnoweveryoneismorerespectfulofyouifyou'reaceliacinsteadofdieting.
Anyway.That'smytheorythatIgotfromwatchingtheoldladiesaroundme.
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[] Funkays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Toobadwiththeglutenfreelabelcomesabiggerpricetag:(6bucksforaloafofglutenfreebread.Halfthesizeandslicesofmy
regular$2.50bread.
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[] bgovern undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowaboutthat.Iworkforabigfoodcompany,andweatfirstfiguredthisGFgarbagewouldgoawayonitsown.Thenwetried
educatingpeoplethatglutenisn'taproblemfor99.5%ofpeople.Thenwefinallycapitulated,anddecidedtoprofitoffofidiotswhoare
willingtopaymoreforfoodtotreatanonexistentdiseasediagnosedbytheiryogainstructor.
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[] Lava_Sipper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallymostlytheopposite,withglutenintollerancebeingmostlyaplaceboandmarket'sefforttokeepupwiththedemand,people
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whoactuallysufferfromglutenintollerancehaveahardtimedifferentiatingbetweenfoodthatisactuallyglutenfreeandfoodthatisjust
marketedasglutenfree.
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[] lululag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ImeanIknowthere'salotofidiotsouttherewhoclaimglutensensitivty,butIreallydohaveaproblemdespitemyceliactestcoming
backasnegative.
Eatingwheatproductsgivesmehorriblediarrheaforlikeaday,andthenIfeelsickforanother12daysafterwards.
IthoughtitmightallbeinmyheaduntilIaccidentallyateabowlofnoodles(thenormallysafebuckwheatflourhadwheatflourmixed
in),andgotreallysick.Couldn'tfigureoutwhyuntilIcheckedthepackagingandsawthewheatingredients.
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[] Inflatablespider undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileIhatetheglutenfreefaddieterswhosay"Ican'teatgluten,Ihaveanallergy.NoIhavenotbeentoadrorbeentested,Ijust
feelbetternoteatingit",Idolikehowmucheasierithasmadefindingglutenfreefoodmy6yearoldwillactuallyeatsohedoesn'tget
sick.
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[] Basilman121 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveIBSandglutenissomethingIeffectivelyeliminatedfrommydiet.TherearesomanyfoodsIcan'teatanymorebecauseifIeat
them,Iendupspendingtwoplushoursadayonthetoilet.
I'mhappyglutenfreebecameafadbutIreallydowishIdidn'thavethissensitivity.
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[] sensicle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RNhere.GlutensensitivityislegitbutgoesunnoticedforthemostpartwiththeextremeendofitbeingCeliacdisease.Notsleeping
well,difficultypayingattention,minorstomachaches,etc.canbeattributedtomuchmilderformsofglutensensitivitywhichgolargely
undiagnosedandare,forthemostpart,notmuchofaproblemoverall.Butifpeopleweretogetglutensensitivitytestsinlarge
numbers,alargenumberofpeoplewouldbedoingtohavesomedegreeofsensitivity.
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[] risciss93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itreallyirksmethatactualceliacdiseasesufferershavetopaymoreforsubstitutefood.Iknowit'sasmallthing,butanextra1.30$for
abunatTheWorksseemsunfairforpeoplewhoactuallycan'thavethenormalbuns.Isupposeyoucouldbringyourown.
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[] MikeOfAllPeople undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Glutenfreeisactuallyprettysimple.Itgrewinpopularityjustafterpaleo.Backthenonlynonprocessedfoodswereglutenfree.Soa
glutenfreedietwasverysimilartopaleo:lessbreadandsugarysnacks,moremeatandveggies.Asitgrewinpopularitybrands
advertisedtheirglutenfreeproductsmore.Thentheyrealizedidiotswouldjustbuywhateverwasglutenfreeregardlessofwhetherit
washealthierornot.
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[] mastablasta34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Idea"ofglutensensitivity..?
Youdoknowthat'sarealthingright?
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[] mmmm_whatchasay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dbeperfectlyfinewiththisifitwasreal.
Itmakeslifeeasierforsomepeoplewithoutmakingitharderforanyoneelse.
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[] Itstricky13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheveryfactthatCeliacdiseaseexists,provesthatfoodcompaniesdidnotjust"makeuptheideaofglutensensitivity".Thisisas
ridiculousassayingthatpeoplewithpeanutallergiesconvincedfoodcompaniestoremovepeanutlacedproducts....Well,Duh...
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Ithinkitwasmorelikelyamarketingstrategyfromfoodcompanies.Imean"glutenfree"soundslikeahealthieroption.Itisn't,butit
soundslike"sugarfree".Andsinceglutenisfoundinsomecarbohydrates(whichareknowtobefatteningfoods),itmakesitsoundlike
bygettingglutenfreeyou'regettingalessfatteningversionofcarbohydrates.
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[] eifersucht12a undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mystepdaughterhasceliac.Thephoniesareannoyingbutyoucan'thelpbutfigurewithoutthemitwouldbemuchmoredifficultthanit
alreadyis.
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[] Bromlife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aretheyphonies,though?I'veneverunderstoodwhypeoplegetsoupsetaboutwhatsomeoneelsewantstoeatornot.Justlike
thereactiondickheadshavetovegetarians,whydopeoplefinditsooffensivethatsomeoneeatsdifferentlytothem?
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[] eifersucht12a undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ipersonallydon'tandIagreewithyouentirely.ButImeaninthesensethattheyeatglutenfreebecauseit'ssupposedly
betterforthemratherthannecessitytheyare"phonies".Idon'tintendtobeinflammatory.
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[] UniverseBomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sacooltheory,butIthinkCeliacsufferersknowthatmeatandpeanutsareglutenfreealready.I'mtiredofseeingthoselabels,I
knowmybaconhasnowheatinitandsoshouldeveryoneelse.
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[] hypmoden undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sMSGalloveragain
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[] Frankiepet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lol
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[] isonem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snot.Wheathaschangedsomuchoverthepast100yearsthattheglutencontenthasskyrocketed.ManypeoplewithGIissuesafter
eatingabigplateofpastadon'trealizeit'stheglutenkickingthemintherear.
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Occam'sRazor.
Ifonlyitwassoeasyto"create"acraze.Iwouldberich.
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[] ReverendPious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
bymakinguptheideaofglutensensitivity.
Utternonsense.Howcanyousaythat?I'mdismayed.
I,DrF.Rev,diagnosedmyselfthatIamintoleranttogluten.Ihavebeenonaglutenfreedieteversinceandhaven'tlookedback.
Rev
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[] Decepticle_Ronnie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihopethat'sajoke.That'saconsequencesoftheglutenfreecraze,butifyoubelieveitwasconsciouslymanufactured,Idon'tknow
whattosay.
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[] IDoThingsOnWhims undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Glutensensitivityisabsolutelyreal.ExcepttherealnameisOhmygodfeellikeshitaftereatingabowlofspaghettigarlicbreadand
piewhatdiseaseiscausingthisitis.
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[] miogato2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellfuckthemnowIhavetoexplaintoashitloadofsoccermomsanduggbratswhatisokforthemtoeat
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[] iSluff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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GuessI'masoccermom/uggbratforfeelingbetterandmoreenergeticwhenIavoidgluten.
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[] miogato2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyoudon'tknowwhatcontainsglutenandsearchthemenutobetterfityourlifestyleIcanalsosuggestapumpkinlattewhile
youareatit
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[] Satans__Secretary undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
makinguptheideaofglutensensitivity
No.Justno.
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[] jimsmisc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ispoketoagastroenterologistoncewhosaidthatwhileceliacisreasonablycommon,theevidenceisn'tentirelyclearastowhether
nonceliac"glutensensitivity"isreallyathing.Thisdochadasuspicionthatwhenpeoplecutoutgluten,they'reoftencuttingoutalotof
otherthingsaswelljustbycircumstance(starches,carbs,etc).Cuttingoutthatstuffwillsometimesmakethemfeelbetter,butitwasn't
necessarilyrelatedtothegluten.
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Ilikethisonebecauseitseemslikeeveryoneprettymuchwins
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[] Tokyo__Drifter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcoursethere'salsoindustrypushtocreateaculturewhereweridiculeanybodywhobuysglutenfreethings.Iboughtglutenfree
waffles,I'mnotceliac,butdamn,theyweredelicious.Keeponcrying,wheatagriculture,asifitreallychangesmuch.
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I'msickofthewheatindustrypumpingoutantiglutenfreestudiesandTVprogrammes.It'ssofuckingobviousasaceliacI'msickof
hearingit
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[] Tokyo__Drifter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustmadesomeglutenfreepiecrustaswellforanybodyelseouttherewhomightfeelit'stheirbusiness.Also,Imightadd,it
tastedgreatandeverybodylovedit.
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Idon'tknowabouttheglutenfreecraze,butamoreplausibleoneistherecentpopularityofhardcider.Icandrinksomethingbesides
liquornow!Glutenfreebeerisfuckingterrible.
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[] Usurer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Glutenfreebeerisfuckingterrible.
Glutenberg(ifyoucanfindit)isprettygood,butI'vealsoforgottenwhatbeertasteslikesoooo....
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Orapplecidervinegarforcooking,haircare,cleaning,etc.
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Brbstartingapeanutfreeuprising.
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[] HoldMyWater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'ssafetosaypeanutfreeandnutfreelabellinghavealreadytakenhold.
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[] greeed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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No!Usceliacpeoplecanhavethatdon'tcoopourmovementdick
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Onetimeonlyofferglutenfreepeanutsfor$50each!
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[] mrsummerlover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hahaha,Ilikethisone!
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[] qwertyphile undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Givemean'H'!NowgetridoftheH
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[] MeekMarsupial undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mydad'shasceliacdiseaseandhasbeenlivingglutenfreeforaround12yearsnow,youwouldn'tbelievehowharditwastoget
anythingglutenfreeatthebeginning,andanythingthatwasglutenfreetastedlikeamouthfulofriceflourwithadashoflighterfluid.
Interestinglyenoughthe"rustleyourjimmy's"memecomesfromtheboxofaglutenfreebreakfastcerealcalledGorillaMunch.
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Mydad'shasceliacdiseaseandhasbeenlivingglutenfreeforaround12yearsnow,youwouldn'tbelievehowharditwasto
getanythingglutenfreeatthebeginning,andanythingthatwasglutenfreetastedlikeamouthfulofriceflourwithadashof
lighterfluid.
That'swhyIdon'tminditbeingafad.It'smadelifemuchbetterforsomanygenuinesufferers.
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[] Justin72 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gah!IKNEWIhadseenthatsomewhereoutthereintherealworld!
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[] whexi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisthesamewithmymom.Inthebeginningshebasicallyhadtoeatsalads.Couldnevereatoutbecausenooneunderstood
shecan'thaveandcrumbs.It's100xbetternow.
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[] cogra23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thedownsideisthatpeopledon'ttakeceliacdiseaseseriouslybecausetheythinkit'spartoftheglutenfreefad.
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[] SAT4NSLILHELPER undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vealwaysassumeditwasanillustrationinakid'snaturebookorsomething.
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[] xpoc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisproducthasalwaysbeenglutenfree.
"Wewereglutenfreebeforeitwascool"
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[] FuckYouTalmBout undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MygirlfriendisceliacsoI'vehadmyfairshareofgorillamunchandit'sreallygood
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[] WigglestonTheFourth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndGorillaMunchissofuckinggood.
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[] proboardslolv3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MycoworkerfromCzechRepublicsaysamericaisawesomebecausehisgirlfriendhasceliac'sandinCR,whentheyaskforgluten
freemeals,therestaurantdoesn'tknowwhatthatisandtheybecomeveryfreakedoutandbringherlike,thecrappiestsaladin
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existencethatstillhascroutonsonit.Butwhentheycometoamerica,restaurantshavemenuswithalistofallergensandotherstuff
foralltheirfooditemsifyoujustaskforit.MademeproudtobeAmerican.
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[] LemurFace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leapin'Lemurswasprettygoodtoo
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[] MrBigDick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadceliacdiseasefor7yearsorsonowanditsamazinghowmuchthingshavechangedsincethebeginning.Thingswentfrom
noglutenfreeoptionsonmenusatrestaurantsandnooptionsatthegrocerystoretofullonglutenfreemenus(oratleastmultiple
options)andfullglutenfreesectionsatthegrocerystore,inthespanoflike45years.
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[] Smalls_Biggie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatthefuck.WhothoughtGorillaMunchsoundedlikeanappetizingname?
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GorillaMunchisgreat.Thatcompanyalsomakesanotherglutenfreecerealthatislikevanillanutflavouredorsomething,andit
tastessodamngood.Ioncefilledasaladbowlwiththestuffandsomemilkandwenttotown.IfeltlikeIwasabouttoburst,butit
wasworthit.Sadlythatstuffismoreexpensivethanmostcerealsandtheboxisirregularlysmall.
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[] I_dont_cuddle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhadnoclueGorillaMunchwasglutenfree
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[] Hanta3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Knewthatlastfact.Unfortunately(forme),mymomhelpedspearheadingtheglutensensitivityhealthcraze,soIwaseatinggluten
freefoodbeforeitevenreallyhitthemainstream.Iamveryfamiliarwiththatgorilla:(
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[] Laureltess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mydadisthesameway.HehasbeenglutenfreesinceIcanremember,andI'm22now,soit'sbeenawhile!Theamountoffood
hecanbuynowwithoutdriving30minutestoWholeFoodsisenormous.Helovesitbecauseit'saloteasierforhimtomakehis
ownfoodnow.
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[] b1rd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknewIrecognizedthatdamngorillafromsomewhere!Thankyou.
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[] TweaktheReaper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GorillaMunchissodelicious.....andsoexpensive.Agreatalternativeforsomeonelikemewithdigestiveproblems,butpayingforit
isalmostaspainfulasmydigestiveissuesXD
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[] Udunno13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'reprettyaffordableatTraderJoe'sifyouhaveonenearbyyou!
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[] TweaktheReaper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhmanIwilllook!Thankyou!
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[] seacucumber3000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GorillaMunch
Myeconteacheralwayshasboxesofthisinhimroom.GorillaMunchisgood,buttheChocolateChocoChimpsarewaybetter.
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[] AloueiCMX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Fucknowonderthatcerealtastedlikeass.Mymomalwaysboughtitformeasakidbecause"itshealthy"
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[] A_Windrammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vetriedGorillaMunchbefore.It'skindaok.
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[] Fratriarch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasthereanyreasontobeupset?
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[] Billman6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,theyhavethetextureofsawdust
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[] theBrineySeaMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tbelieveyourdadoranyotherpersonwhoclaimstometheyhaveit.Peanuts?Sure.Shellfish?Definitely.Gluten?Noway,
theoddsareslim,andeachpersonclaimsto"REALLY"haveitwhenIbringupthestats,andisn'tjustahypochondriac.I'mpretty
sureCeliac'swasjustmadeupsothesepeoplecanfeelspecialwhentheydineout.
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[] fishsupper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theglutensensitivitythingiswayoverblownbutceliacisdefinitelyrealandmustreallysuck.
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[] theBrineySeaMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theglutensensitivitythingiswayoverblownbutceliacisdefinitelyrealandmustreallysuck
ThisiswhatI'mtouchingon.IagreethatCeliac'swouldsuck,butsinceeveryoneandtheirauntclaimstohaveit
despitean~1%ofthepopulationnumber,Itrustnoonewhoclaimstheyhaveit.
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The2peopleIknowwhohavebeendiagnosedwithitwerelatertoldtheydon'thaveit.
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Thatseemsprettyinsensitivetome,mydadalmostdiedfromitbeforehisdiagnosis,atfirstthedoctorsthoughtitwasbowel
cancerandhelostweightreallyquicklyoverthecourseofacouplemonths.
Oncehegotacolonoscopytheysawtheintestineliningwasshottoshitafterhisimmunesystemattackeditself.
Celiac'sisarealthing.
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[] ThisGaren undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mymotheralsosufferedfromitaswellbeforeitbecameawellknownissue.Doctorsatthetimedidn'tknowwhatitwas,anditwas
averyscarytime.Shewasbedriddenwithhivelikesoresforalongtime.
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[] colormefeminist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfeellikeI'veheard"rustlehisjimmies"inperson,I'llhavetopaymoreattention
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[] stupid_fat_pidgeons undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ewthat'sdisgusting,Ihatericeflower
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[] BonJob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ionceboughtaboxifgorillamunchcereal.Itlookslikecornpops,buttasteslikesawdust.
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[] Marshmallow_man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sohowwouldyoudescribeyourjimmies?
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[] BonJob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
well,mysteamnamehasbeenJimmyRusslesforthelast4years,soithinkiwassufficientlyrustled.
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Thechocolateversionwasactuallyreallynice.
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[] PleaseAnswerCMSAF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sotrue,myFIListhesame.IrememberdiscoveringlaysSTAXwereglutenfree10yearsago.Helovedmefromthatmomenton.
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[] bellebrita undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsawanutritionisttohelpmewithmyCrohn'sfrom20002002.Iwasglutenfreeanddairyfreeformuchofthattime.Myparents
andImostlystockeduponproductswecouldfindatFreshMarketwhenwetraveled(myhometownstilldoesn'thaveone).Iatea
lotoffoodthatisnaturallyglutenfree.Regulargrocerystoresdidnothaveglutenfreesections,sowespentalotoftimereading
labels.
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Areyoustillglutenfree?
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Nope.IstoppedmyrestricteddietandherbalsupplementswhenIhadtogobackonprednisone.Mydietundermy
nutritionistevolvedtoletmehavedairyfatsandwholegrains,butwithsugarsolimited,Icouldn'teveneatcertainfruits.
Iwasalsotaking40+supplementsaday.ThesacrificeswereallworthitwhileIwasoffprednisone.Theywerenot
worthifIstillhadtotakeprednisone.
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Ihavenothingagainstceliacsufferers,it'sthefoodcompaniesthathavemadeitsooverblown.
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[] cactuscat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'rejustbusinesscateringtoademand.Oksotheymightpromoteittoacertaindegreebutifpeopleweren'tintoitthey
wouldgoaway.
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Ifeelliketheglutenfreecrazewasstartedasanotherwayforpeoplewithotherproblemstryingtofeelgoodabout
themselves,everytimesomeonehasahealthproblem,beitweight,bloodpressure,orsomesortofvitamindeficiency,they
alwayslookforsomethingexternaltoblameiton.MSGwasdemonisedforalongtime,andstillistosomeextent,because
peoplewantedsomethingtoblameotherthanthemselvesfortheirpoorhealth.Theglutenfreemarketisjustanoffshootfrom
acrazeofpeopletryingtonotblamethemselvesandthefoodcompaniescapitalizedonitandcreatedarecursiveloopof
encouragingpeoplenottoeatgluteninordertosellmoreproducts.Asideeffectofthisisthatceliacshaveamucheasier
timegettingfoodthatdoesn'ttastelikeshit.
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TheconcernIhavewiththisthough,isthatit'llgetsotrendytoput"glutenfree!"onthelabelthatit'llstartshowingupon
foodsthatactuallycontaingluten.Obviouslytheselfdiagnosed"glutenintolerance"peoplewouldneverknowany
different,butthosewithCeliac'sDiseasewillbelookingatadicerolleverytimetheytrysomethingnew.
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[] BlackOpsBellyTouch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sfunnybecauseprocessedglutenfreefoodsareworseforyouthentheglutenfullequivalents
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[] kikenazz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouthinkMSGisgood?
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Ido.It'snaturallyoccurringinmanyfoods.Parmesancheeseisabout5%MSGbyweight.Thefearstemsfromit
beingknownbya"scary"chemicalname.Ithasbeenprovensafetimeandtimeagain.
IusedtoregularlycookforsomeonewhoclaimedtohaveanallergytoMSG.Chinesetakeoutwouldmakeher
itchandcomeoutinarash,sosheclaimed,whichmustmeananMSGallergy.Andyetshewouldpileparmesan
oneverything.And,wouldyoubelieveit,sheseemstohavedevelopedanintolerancetogluteninthelastfew
years...
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[] zaery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Parmesancheeseisabout5%MSGbyweight.
What'syoursource?IwantrealnumbersbeforeItellmyparentsthat'swhytheylikemycooking,andI've
neverbeenabletofindthem.
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WellIjustknowthatitgivesmeandmydadtheshits.
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[] jyetie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotreallyevidenceofitbeingbad.
It'sprobablyjustasensitivity(whichisnotanallergy)tosomethingthatcontainsMSG.
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YeahIknowitdoesn'tbothermostpeople.ButIwouldbelievetheamounttheyaddintofood
likeChineseiswaymorethanisfoundnaturallyinthefoodsyouaretalkingabout.
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Yeeeeah,that'snotreallyevidenceofitbeingbad.
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[] pootastic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tsayitsgoodsomuchasit's"notasbadasstated".
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Ididn'tknowithadatonofbadpublicity.Ijustknowitcangivepeopledigestionissuessothat's
whytheypostsignsinrestaurants.Butthanksreddit,downvotemeforhavingdiarrhea..
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There'snorealevidencetosuggestthatit'sbad.It'sanaturalpartofbreastmilkbecauseitencouragesbabiesto
eat.Wehavereceptorsonourtonguestoletusknowwhenwe'reeatingitbecuaseit'sanessentialflavour.
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Ithinkit'sjustthatitwastoutedasahealthfad.Peoplethoughteatingglutenfreewouldmakeyouhealthierandfitter,
soitbecameathingthatfoodcompanieswantingtomaketheirproductseemlikethehealthiestpossibleexploited.
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Atkins....Nowthere'sanameIhaven'theardinalong,longtime
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WhenIvisitedLAafewyearsbackalmosteverythingtherehadsometypeofAtkinslabelonit.Itfeltlike
thesurrealvisionofLAwegetinthemovies.
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[] PastorOFpenguins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveceliaccanconfirmlifeiseasier.
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[] nullenatr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allofmymothersfamilyhasittoo,includingher,andit'sdefinitelyeasiereventhoughithasn'treallyhitmycountry.ButI'malways
deadscaredwhensheasksforglutenfreeinanyplaceandtheywouldlaughatherandsaytheresnothingwrongwithglutenor
like 90% of the internet
something
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Peoplelikethatmakemesoangry.Thentheyblamethefadpeople.Twothings:whydopeoplegiveafuckwhatotherswant
intheirdietornot?Andsecondly,they'renottoblame,youareforbeingafuckingasshole
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[] nullenatr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly.
ImustadmitIwouldjudgesomebodyiftheyarevegan,becauseit'sagainsthumannatureasweareomnivores,butI
fuckingkeepthattomyselfifImeetone.
Ihatethosepeoplewhohavetobesomeknowitallwhowilllaughatyoubecauseyouwon'teat2pizzas(withgluten
flour)adaylikehedo.
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[] albert___wesker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mylocalgrocercarriespineappleandtuna,specificallymarkingthemasglutenfree.
Thebandwagonisreal.
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[] ludwigvanbiteme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
y'knowwhat,speakingasaceliac,you'dbeamazedwhatpeoplefuckingaddglutento.Justsayin'.Itrustnothingwithoutchecking
ingredients,andhavinga"glutenfree"labelrightoffthebatsavesmethetrouble.
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Itrustnothingwithoutcheckingingredients,andhavinga"glutenfree"labelrightoffthebatsavesmethetrouble.
Ithinkyoushouldcheckingredientslistseventhoughgrocersmarketsoandsoasbeingglutenfreejusttoprotectyourself.
Whatifthisparticulargroceristryingtoselltothenonceliacgluten"allergy"hippycrowdbuttheproductsactuallycontain
gluten?
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[] ludwigvanbiteme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uh,they'dgettheirassessued,iswhatwouldhappeniftheytriedtodothat...Thatbeingsaid,though:productsmade
ofspeltorkamutsometimestrytopassthemselvesoffas"wheatfree"wheninfactbothspeltandkamutarejust
ancientcultivarsofwheat.Theycontainlessgluten,andareprobablybetterforyouthanregularprocessedwheat
products,butstilldocontainenoughglutentofuckyouup.Learnedthatthehardway.~themoreyouknow~
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[] Usurer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bingo.
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[] WeebUnearthed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveallthesecrazesarevariousfoodcompaniestryingtocreateadrivetotheirproducts.Theyplantheproductthenruna
campaigntopromoteitbysayingitshealthy.Glutenfreehascomeafterothercrazeslikeorganic,freerange,etc.Eventhoughthe
benefitsaren'tsignificant
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Nextwe'llstartseeing"freerangehoneynutcheerios".
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Ifyoudon'tthinkhoneynutcheeriosdeservetoroamthenyou'reascumbag.
Theylockthemupintinycagesandforcefeedthemhoneynuts,manyofthemendupdeformed.
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[] AntProtein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptnowthere'splentyof"GlutenFree"foodsthatstillhaveGluteninthemtojumponthebandwagon,sonowGlutenfreeproducts
arelikeaminefieldforpeoplewithCeliac.Notthatit'snotpossiblethattheycould'vestartedit,butifitwasthecaseitdefinitely
backfiredonthem.
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[] sandm000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msurethereisasecretceliacnetwork,suchthatwhenoneproductaffectsaceliac,thatproductgetsblacklisted.Theystillwound
upwithmoreandbetteroptions.
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[] serrakat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What,how?Idon'tunderstandthisatall
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[] Baeshun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aseverelyceliacfriendofminesaidthesamething.
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[] SirHumpyAppleby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So,aretherenopackagelawswhereyouare?Howcometheycansayglutenfree?
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[] No_Inside_Voice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearealso"glutenfree"foodsthatneverhadgluteninthefirstplace.Glutensensitivityisn'treal.
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[] sineofthetimes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Literallybackfired.
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Whatfoodareyoutalkingabout??Ihaveceliacsandhaveneverseenthis.
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[] benightedgenius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Celiacsreallylackedontheshelfoptions,anythingontheshelfintheUSAmarkedasglutenfreemeetstherequirements.Sothe
crazesignificantlyhelpedCeliacsinthatrespect,restaurantsnotsomuchbuttheyshouldneverbetrustedfortheGlutenFree
thing.
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[] secularshmo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisnottrue.DoyouknowhoweasilyacompanywouldgetsuedifsomeonewithCeliacdiseaseconsumedsomethinglabeled
"GlutenFree"thathasgluteninit?Thisisaloadofbullocksandisjustarumorspreadbypeoplewhowanttohateandcriticize.
Thisglutenfreecrazehasonlyhelpedpeoplewiththedisease.
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Doyouknowhowharditcanbesometimestonarrowdownwhatglutenedyou?Igenerallydon'tnoticeuntilthenextday,
wakeupswollen,puffyface,generalmalaiseandwickeddiarrhea.Itcouldhavebeenanythingfromthepreviousdayand
oftennarrowingitdownconclusivelyisalmostimpossible.
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AssomeonewhoneedstoeatglutenfreeIsuperenjoythecraze.It'snicetobeabletobuyflourorknowwhichbagsofcorn
chipsaresafetoeatwithoutreadingtheingredients.
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Ithinkthecrazehasbeenextremelyhelpfulinprovidingmoreonshelfoptions.TheoptionshaveexplodedforCeliacs.No
lessthanacrazewouldofledtosuchathing.
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AceliacandIthinkthesepeopleareridiculous,becauseglutenisfuckingdelicious!,butIlovethemsillyfolksfor
demandingmoreproductsIcaneat!
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Theproblemisthatmanydoctorsareencouragingtheirpatientstoconsidercuttingoutglutentoseewhatoccurs.
Thisisn'tjustpoppingoutofnowhere.FromDiabetestoParkinson's,someDoctorsaresuggestingitworthashot,
Iknowbecausemygrandfather,whohasboth,wastoldbyhisdoctortotryGlutenFree.
SamegoeswiththeNIHstudiesregardingschizophrenicsandgluten,establishingsomecorrelationwithaflaring
upofcertainsymptoms.IknowbecauseIworkinmentalhealthandsometreatmentfacilitiesareweighingthe
costsofgoingtowardsarestrictedglutendietforsomepatients.Furthermore,moreoutpatientsarebeingasked
toconsiderrestrictingglutenintheirdiets.
Now,doesthatapplytomostpeople?Ofcoursenot.Aretheirreasonsanyless"outthere"thanreligiously
exemptedorpreparedfood(Kosherandsoforth)?No,infactIwouldargueitismorerationalgiventheir
circumstances.Thereasonbeingisbecausetheaveragepersonisbeingbombardedwithinconsistentmessages
aboutifandwhyGlutenisanissue,somanyaretakinga"bettersafethansorryattitude"(howeverunwarranted).
Inshort,someofthis"gluten"crazemaybeheretostay,andinmanycasesitmaynotbesocrazyforthe
individualtodothis,whenthemedicalauthorityintheirlivesisrecommendingittothem.
becauseglutenisfuckingdelicious
Ididn'trealizethatglutenitselfhadmuchofapreferredtasteatall.
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[] mmmm_whatchasay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doctorshavealwaysbeensuggestingthat,it'sjustmorecommonlydonenow.TheclinicaltestingforCeliac
isexpensiveandintenseandpainful,soaneasierwaytotestforitwouldbetohavepatientscutitoutof
theirdietforafewweekstoseeifitmadeadifference.It'sprobablyhappeningmorenowbecausepatients
won'tstopaskingaboutit.
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IknowalotofnonceliacpersonswhohavegonegfbecauseofDradvice.Ithinkthatbecauseitelimates
manyinhealthyoptionsitmakespeoplefeelbetterandtheyassociateitwiththeglutenfreediet.Really
theystoppedeatingsomuchfastfoodandcrapthattheylooseweightandfeelbetter.It'safalsecorrelation
betweentheremovalofglutenfromtheirdietandfeelingbetterwhenreallythecausationisother
exceptionsfromtheirdietarypractices.
Alsonotheglutenproteinitselfdoesn'thaveapreferredtasteoverothergrainproteinsitisitsabilityto
bondcarbsintogooeyfluffyawesomethatispreferredoverotherbindingcompoundsinfoodthatmakesit
soawesome.
Imissglutenbutitmakesmeshitmypants.
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Areyouassertingthatineveryinstance(asidefromceliac)thataDr.isadvisingittheyareineffect
pushingaquasiplacebo,inthattheglutenitselfisn'ttheissuebutrestrictingfoodswithitleads
peopletoeatinghealthier?
Ifso,thenno.TheNIHstudiesspecificallycontrolforotherfactorsregardingschizophreniaanddiet,
andconcludesthattherereallymaybeacorrelationbetweenglutenandsomesymptomsflaringup.
AsidefromthatinthegeneralthrustofDr.adviceIdon'tagree,becausethereareplentyofgluten
freeoptionsthatarejunkfood,soyouarenotnecessarilyincreasingsomeone'spropensityfora
"healthydiet"intheslightest.
OutsideofDr.advice,certainlyfalsecorrelationsandpsychosomaticreactionsgaloreabound,butthat
isn'tlimitedtogluten.
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[] amandathehuman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seriouslyneverseenanythinglabelledglutenfreeuntilacoupleofyearsago.Iwonderhowdifficult/timeconsumingit
wastoshopforceliacbeforethen.
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[] civetservescoffee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myusualgrocerystoretriptookatleast45minutes,becauseIhadtoreadeverylabel,everytime.Companies
changeingredientsmoreoftenthanyou'dexpect.Itstilltakestoodamnlong,butit'sreallyfuckinghelpfulwhen
somethingjuststatesGlutenFreeonthepackaging.
Lifeisfareasiernow,althoughIdon'tappreciatepayingdoubleortriplethepricefortheglutenfreeversion.I
thinkthepricefactoralonenegatesthepossibilityofa"celiacconspiracy".
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Oh,Icanbelieveit.Idon'thaveanyallergiesorsensitivitiesmyself,butI'vebeenweaningmyselfontoa
vegandiet.EggsandmilkinALLTHETHINGS.Notonlythat,butwhenyoustarttoreallyinspectthe
ingredients,yourealizejusthowmuchjunkgoesintothings.Eatingrawisfine,butfindingalternativesfor
thingsyou'dliketohavealittlebingeonisenoughtomakeapersoncrazyifyou'renotinaspecialtystore.I
justnoticedhowexpensivetheglutenfreesectionis,too.Halftheproductalternativefornearlytwicethe
price!
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[] civetservescoffee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Halftheproductalternativefornearlytwicetheprice!
Andthebitchofitis(besidestheprice!),youneverknowifit'sgoingtobedecentordisgustinguntil
youtryit.
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Yes!I'llreadreviewsonlineofoneproduct,buttheyhaveadifferentbrandatmystore.
Someoneshouldinventanappwhereyoucanscanaproductandseereviewsonline...although
Iguessthatcouldleadtoawholeotherconspiracyoffakereviews.Itookachanceonanew
brandofveggieburgersandtheywereTERRIBLE.AlmostsevendollarsforfourburgersandI
justcan't.
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[] vankirk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isawfrozenspinachlabeledglutenfree.WTF
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[] invisiblecows undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iactuallygotglutenedfromwalmartfrozenspinachmanyyearsago.Itwasdustedwithflourtopreserve
textureorsomething.Ididn'treadthelabelbecausewhythehellwouldfrozenveggiescontaingluten?I
paidtheprice.
Ihavealsogottenglutenedviaicecream,roastedchicken,corntortillas,andwaytoomanyotherwtffoods.
Iappreciateanygflabellingevenifitseemsstupid,becauseglutencanliterallybeinanythingandthe
labellingsavesmetimeandworry.
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[] asshatnowhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
aslongasit'ssoldinashelf,innorthamericaatleast,ifitislabeledasglutenfreeitHAStobebelow20ppmofcontamination.any
moreandtheyarenotlegallyabletocallitglutenfree.restaurantsontheotherhand,suchasdominoes,cansellfoodthatis'gluten
free'asintheywillmakethepizzawithaglutenfreecrust.theglutenfreecrustandtoppingsareglutenfree,sotheycanadvertise
themassuch,howevertheymakenoclaimthatwhatarrivesatyourdoorafterithasbeenpreparedinthekitchenisfreeofgluten
enoughtoofficiallylabelitassuch.thatiswhywhenyouorderittheywarnyouofpossiblecrosscontamination.
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[] K3NN3Y undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworkedatPizzaHutwhentheyintroducedUdi'sglutenfreepizza.Thosehadtheirownpans/dough,andaftertheycameout
oftheovenwehadspecialbladestocutthem.Weevenhadaspecialglutenfreepepperoniweused,althoughthatwasthe
onlymeatlabeledassuch.
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[] padgettish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkatadeli/gourmetgrocerthatmakesaVeryBigDealaboutglutenfreeoptions.
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Wekeepourboxofcroutonsontopofourglutenfreestationlikeitisn'tevenaproblem.
Ourpreviousmanagerwouldliterallytellpeopletomakeregularbreadsandwichesonourglutenfreestationwhenitgotbusy
andjustthrowapieceofbutcherpaperontoptomakeglutenfreeitems.
It'sprettyfuckedup,butI'mfinallyataplaceinthebusinesswhereIcanmakesuremycustomerswithseriousgluten
intolerances/allergies/celiacs/whateverdon'tgetcontaminatedfood.Evensomeonewho'sjustdoingaglutenfreedietforthe
hellofit,whatever.Youdeservetogetthefoodyou'repayingfor.
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[] ilona12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm.Iworkatapizzarestaurant.Wehaveafewofourmostpopularpizzascertifiedglutenfreewhereweprepare
theminaseparateareatoavoidcrosscontamination.However,ifyouorderonethatisnotontheGFmenu,itwillbemade
theregularwayontheGFcrust.
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[] mightBeAdick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm363069.htmwrongwrongandmoreliesyouweretold.Wehave
peoplewithreactionstoGlutenfreeproductsandbecauseitwas'manufactured'beforecertainregulationsandassuchwill
staythatway!BecauseitsinourownershipatadistributioncenterforYEARSofshelflifewecansellsomethingforthenext5
yearsthatisHEAVILYglutenlikepastasandbarleyale'sthataresupposedlyglutenfreeasthelabelstatesbuttellthattoa
oldercoworkerthattossesafterdrinkingoreatingtheGLUTENFREEstufftoalmostflulikesymptomsbeforefiguringitout!
FromFDA.GOV
"Someofthesefoods,likepasta,havealongershelflifeandmaylegallyremainontheshelvesalittlebitlonger.Therefore,it
ispossiblethatstoresmaystillbesellingsomefoodsthatarelabeledglutenfreeproducedbeforethecompliancedateof
thefinalrule."
andfyimanagementknowsandstilllaughsaboutittothisday(nolongerworktherebutfriendsstilldo).
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[] MrBigMcLargeHuge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Truebutit'sbeenalmost19monthssincethoseregulationswerepassedandtheysaidinthearticleanestimated5%of
itemscurrentlybeingsoldormanufacturedwouldfitintothecategorythatrequiredthechange.
Almostallofthoseitemshavebeensoldorthrownoutbynow.Eventhensomeofthemwereprocessedtobegluten
freebutjustcontainedmorethanthe20PPM.Yes,thereareprobablysomebeingsoldbutnoreasontocallascarefor
thattinypercentageofproducts.
Notreallyfairtocallouttheabovepersonlikethateitherwhenthesectionyouaretalkingaboutisincrediblysmalland
heisstillcorrectforfarbeyondthevastmajorityofcases.
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[] mightBeAdick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youmightberightbutasfarasimconcernedacertainfoodretailerthatrymeswithpawsstillsellswheatpastas
asglutenfreeandthesuch.ActuallyIbelieveyouareprobablyrightasitisonlyasmallpartfrommyperspective
ofNEareaandcouldbeisolated.OnthatnoteItakeifback.butnotsurethereasonfordownvotingfromjust
listingapointfromagovsiteandwhathappenedtoacoworker,weird.
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Ididn'tdownvote,merelypointedoutthatitwasnotasseriousasyourpostimplied.
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[] jorje_ramirez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howmuchglutendoesittaketosetoffareaction?Isusingtotallyglutenfreeingredientsinapanthatwasusedfornon
glutenfreepizzathatbad?
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[] Echozy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Celiacsisanautoimmunedisease.Ifyoueatmorethan20ppmofgluten,yourimmunesystemstartsattackingyour
smallintestine.Inthelongterm,thiscausesproblemswithyourabilitytoabsorbnutrientsfromfood,whichisnogood.If
youeatenoughglutenatonce,you'llprobablyhaveimmediatedigestivesymptomslikevomitingordiarrhea.Everyone's
thresholdforhowmuchittakesforsymptomsthatareobviouswithoutanendoscopyisalittledifferent.
Butingeneral,Ican'tsharetoasters,pastastrainers,ortefloncoatedutensilsverywell.Stainlesssteelpansandstuff
arefineifyouwashit.Flourgetseverywherewhenyoubake,soIdon'tusuallyeatgfpizzafromaplacethathas
regularpizzaanyway.
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Dependsentirelyonthepersonandwhytheyareglutenfree.Ifthepaniswashedthoroughly,mostGFpeoplewillbe
finebutsomepeoplecanhavereactionstoincrediblysmallamountsofit.
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[] Devin1405 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aslongasyoucleanitafterhavingglutentouchitit'sfinetouseitforglutenfreestuff.
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It'snotalwaysperfectthough,peoplehavebeentestingthenewsupposedly"glutenfree"cheeriosandfindingsomebatchsto
beover20ppm
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truehowever20ppmisnotwhatwillnecessarilymakeyouhaveareaction(it'sdifferentwitheveryone).the20ppmas
farasIknowisperserving.soaservingbeingover20ppmisnottheendoftheworlddependingonwhatelseyoueat,
anditmostlikelywon'tbetheonlythingyou'lleatinaday
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Yeahmostpeoplethathaveamildcaseunder20ppmisfine,butforalotofsensitivepeopleit'snot.Eatingother
thingsbesideswhatmakesyoureactdoesn'tchangeanythingaboutyoureacting,likeyoucan't'dilute'the
reactant,forsomepeopleanyamounttriggerstheimmunesystem,thinkofpeoplewhodiefrompeanutallergies.
Iamaceliac'spersowhocan'tuseanyoneelse'skitcheniftheycookwithanysizeableamountofwheat,orgo
intorestaurantsorbakeries,sothesemeasurementsareaconcernforme.Thewarnings"Madeinafacilitythat
processes..."areactuallyreallyimportanttome,butIamaverytinyminorityofthepopulation.Howeverthat
tinydistinctioncandecidewhetherIfeelokayforseveraldaysorIamextremelyill.
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[] butsuon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
20PPMcanstillagitateapersonsufferingfromceliac.
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thosearerarercasesofpeoplewithveryhighsensitivitiesthough.ifyouareagitatedby20ppmthenchancesareyou
don'teatanyprocessedfoodoratleastyouhaveaveryminimumintake.
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[] GolDAsce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veseenrolledoutslabelledasglutenfree.Wheatfree!=glutenfree.
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asstatedbelowoatsareglutenfree,theyjustgenerallysharethesamemillsandequipmentaswheat.alsoapparently
theyneedtheirowndedicatedoatfield,somethingthatmostoatsdon'thaveeither.thisiswhyglutenfreeoatsareso
freakinexpensive.toaddtothetrouble,somepeoplewithceliacsstillcan'thavethoseoatseither.I'mnotentirelysure
why.
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Somepeoplewithceliacshavetroublewithcorn,safeoats,ormilkproductsjustbecausetheirdigestivesystemis
fuckedupfromuntreatedceliacs.Sometimesyoucanaddthatstuffbackinlater.
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[] faymao undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oatsthemselvesareglutenfree,butmostcommercialoatsaremanufacturedwithgluten.SoforCeliacs,it'simportant
thattheiroatsarelabelledglutenfree.
ACeliacfriendexplainedthistome.
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Thisissomethingallceliacsareawareof,somepeopleareveryseriousaboutmakingsuretheydon'tgetpreparedinthe
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sameplacewithgluten
Suchas...
Thesameoilinadeepfryer
Thesametoaster
Thesamekitchen
Ihaveceliacsandhaveforabout8yearsnow,andIdohavealergicreactionstoGluetenbutthatsortofstuffdoesn'ttriggerit
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[] thehoneytree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkedatthisweirdsushifusionrestaurant.Weactuallywereprettydecentwhenitcametoofferingglutenfreestuff.
Buttheworkersalwayssaidthatit'snotaglutenfreekitchenandthereisalwaysachanceforcrosscontimination.
ThepeoplewhosaidtheyhadCeliac'sDiseasewereALWAYSchillandunderstanding.Thepeoplewhojustsaidthey
were"glutenfree"andseemedmorelikelytojustbejumpingonthebandwagonweretheoneswhomadeafessor
gavemethestinkeye.
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Hi,anotherceliachere.Differentpeoplewithceliacshavedifferentthresholdsforimmediatesymptoms
(vomiting/diarrhea/etc.).Ifyou'reeatingsametoasterlevelsofcrosscontamination,maybegetyourantibodylevels
checkedoccasionallyandmakesureyou'renotcausinganylongtermsmallintestinaldamage.
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[] whiskeycrotch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beingceliacisn'tanallergicreaction,it'sanautoimmuneresponse.
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[] bluejinmu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vewatcheddifferentpizzaplacesusethesameuncleanedpizzacutterfromonepizzatothenext"glutenfree"without
aclue.
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[] Readysethorrible undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iateceliacstoo,andthanGodIwasn'taliveback20yearsagobecausetheonlythingI'dbeeatingarericecakes.
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[] usernameforcooking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yesmygirlfriendhasceliacsbutdoesn'tgethitwithreactionsverybadlyfromsamekitchen/samefryer.Ijusthavetobe
awareofnotdoubledippingforjams,mayo,mustardetc.whenimmakingsandwiches.
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It'sabittrickyatrestaurantsandwhenotherpeoplepreparefood,butifyoubuyitonashelfanditsays"glutenfree,"
it'sglutenfree.It'sbeenregulatedbytheFDAforyearsnow.
findmeglutenfree.comisdecentatweedingoutthefakeglutenfreerestaurantsifyouliveinacity,though.It'sareal
problem.They'reusuallyhonestwhenyouinsistyou'renotjustsomehipster,soifyou'rediligent,you'reusuallyfine,but
it'sstillreallyirritating.It'sstillfareasierthanitwasadecadeago,though.
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[] xxdalexx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasachefinarestaurantwheretheownerhasCeliac's.(Inowworkatthe"corporate"partabovethat
restaurant,alongwith14othersintherestaurantgroup)Welabeledeverythingasglutenfriendlyinsteadoffree,
andIhadnoproblem(andencouragedittotheserverstoofferit)togoandtalktoanyguest/tableandexplain
exactlyhowourglutenfriendlyitemswereproduced,andiftheywereuncomfortablewiththat,talktothemabout
themenuitemsthatwereactually99.9%glutenfree.Idon'tneedtoworryaboutthingslikethisasaguest,butI
wishmorechefsandmanagershadthisapproachtothesubject.
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[] Joninator5000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ElonMuskisatimetravelerfromthefuture
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[] ilikewhenboyscry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisElonMuskguyseemedtocomeofnowhereinrecentmonths.OrperhapsIbeenlivingunderarock....Whoishe,whydoeshe
matter?
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[] werdest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Techentrepreneur.InitiallymadehismoneyfoundingPayPal,thenusedthatmoneytofoundTeslaMotorsandSpaceX.Healso
hasoutspokenopinionsandtheaccentandlooksofabondvillain.
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[] insouciantortoise undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseheplansonsavingourspeciesonewayoranother
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[] eDgAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mymomisabigbelieverofthewhole"Paulisdead"conspiracytheoryandwhileIdon'tbelievealotoftheaspectsofit,Icouldsee
someofitbeingtrue.
ThepartIbelievecouldbetrueisthatPauldiedinacaraccidentafterleavingearlyonemorningintherain.Therecordcompany
panickedaboutwhattodosinceTheBeatleswerethebiggestthingatthemoment.TheydecidedthatinsteadofannouncingthatPaul
wasdead,theywouldcoveritupandreplacehimwiththewinnerofalookalikecontesttheyheld,whowasalsoamusician.
Isthiscrazy?Yeahabit,butIcanseearecordcompanydoingthatinordertocontinuemakingmillions.WhatIbelieveisactuallymore
plausibleisthatthewholemythwasstartedbytherecordcompanytostirupmorehype.TheBeatlesthentrolledtheworldbyputting
"hint"intheirrecordsaboutPaulbeingdeadbecausethatfitstheirsenseofhumor.
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[] pm_me_gnus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenumberofpoliceandmediawhowouldhavetobeconvinced,atamoment'snotice,togoalongagainstthelaw,allethics,and
everythingthatmakesvsenseineitherprofessionisbeyondstaggering.Ifyourmomreallybelievesthis,suggestthatsheconsiderthe
logisticsfor...oh,Idunno,10or11secondsoughtadoit.
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[] afterlodgeJason undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelievetheBeatleswerereallybored.Theyusedarumortoentertainthemselves.BasicallytrollingwithcluesthatPaulisreally
dead.Reallysmartpeoplewhoarebasicallyunabletogooutintopublicandwhoaren'teventouringanymore.Makessensetome.
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IDKifit'sreallytrolling.Don'tgetmewrongthey,especiallyJohnIMOtotallywouldhavetrolledthefuckoutofeveryoneif
they'dhadtheidea.Butthisdidn'tcomeintothepublicconsciousnesstilltheircareerwasbasicallyover.
1of2thingshappened...theyputthisoutthereandnobodygotitforafewyears,oritwasmadeupbypeopleafterwards.I
havetothinkit'sthelatter.Thewholeofthe'evidence'isveryobviouslynotacoherentoperation.Forexample,thereare
'clues'intheSgt.PepperalbumthatsupposedlypegthedateofdeathasNov.9,1966*(Wednesdaymorningat5:00),but
other'clues'arefromalbums&songsreleasedbeforethen.
*Nevermindthefactthat,totheBeatles,11/9is11thSept,notNov.9th.Inanotherforum,Iwrotesatiricallyyearsagothat
theywerepredictingthe9/11attacks.
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[] afterlodgeJason undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AguynamedPattersonwroteabookonthesubject.ThetitlewassomethinglikethewalrusisPaulorsomething.
Anywayhedoesagoodjobofshowingtimelinesofwhentherumorsstartedandthecluesthatareputoutbythe
band(aswellasonestheyhadnothingtodowith).AnywayafterreadingitIfeltverystronglytheyjusthadfunwithit
becausewhynot.
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[] eDgAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohshebelievesevenmorethanjustthat,shebelievedthatthereplacementPaulaka"Fail"wasalsoonamissionfromthe
governmenttotryandgettheyounggenerationcontrolledthroughLSD.
Ilovemymomandshe'snotentirelycrazy,shejusthasthisonereallyabsurdthingshebelievesin.
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[] XSpartanStormX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowifitisagoodideatosayit,but....9/11.
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Dude,justwatchZeitgeistpart2.
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bah?
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[] VelvetHoop27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Veryminor,butthe"MyNameIsJeff"memewastopromotetheDVDreleaseof22JumpStreet.
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[] Not_Ghetty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatscientologyisreallyalargescalemoneylaunderingschemeforcelebrities.
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[] theyellowjester undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididn'tknowAlbertMolinawasaScientologist.
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[] DTGG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doubtit,asseeninthe"GoingClear"documentary,therearen'tmanycelebritiesleftinScientology
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[] WeAreJustStardust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Scientologyisawful,theywerelistedastheworldsmostdangerouscultbyareputablewebsiteandbusinessdesignedtorankcults
andthechurchofScientologysuedthebuildingsintotheground,boughtthecompanyandtookScientologyoffthelistofdangerous
cults.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network
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[] Carnage1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So,it'sbasicallyareligion?
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[] zeus2133 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Carefulyoumightgetsued!
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ifitwasthenwhyaretheyallupinespionageandsabotageandshit?
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[] Yeahdudex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisnotatheorythough.
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[] boarhog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I just want one myself
Toobadgilder'sguildisn'taroundwiththeirgolds.
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That'sreallynotevenaconspiracytheoryanymore.Likealotofnewerreligions(suchasMormonism)theinterneteasilyexposestheir
uglyhistoriesandit'simpossibleforthemtocontrolperceptionanymore.Thecatisoutofthebag.
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[] RedditUserEleventy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThestoryIheardwasthat3reallybadsciencefictionauthorshadadiscussionhowchurchesdon'tpaytaxes,sotheyformedtheirown
churches.
OneoftheothertwowasthecultbehindJonestown,I'mnotsureaboutthethird.
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[] sisterbeater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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IfTomCruisewasusingscientologytolaunderhiscash,hewouldn'tterrifyhiswifeaboutitsomuchthatshefeltcompelledtorunaway
withherdaughterwithoutinforminghim.
TheremustbeindividualswithinScientologywhoaremoneylaundering,butifthewholeoperationwasjustamoneylaunderingfront,
youwouldn'thavetruebelieverslikeTomCruise.
Scientologyisareligion,theproofisthepresenceoffanaticalbelievers.
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[] zzzhonkshoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthiswasjustfact....
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[] Mutjny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,itsjustastraightupmurderousaliencult.
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[] GISRockstar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/woahdude
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[] chlnaturester undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididn'tthinktherewasanydoubttothat"conspiracy."ImeanHubbardsaidhimself"ifIwantedtomakemoneyI'dstartacult"LPand
behold!
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Didn'thealsosaythebestwaytomakemoneyisbystartingareligionordidImisinterpretadifferentquote?
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[] chlnaturester undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nonohedidsaythat.Imisquoted.Apologies!
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[] Jagjamin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shouldn'tsaymoneylaundering,moreliketaxevasion.
Albertgets10mill,hecanpaytaxes,andspendthe5millleftona5millhouse.
Or,hecandonatethe10millto$cientology,notaxes,theyspendthe10millonahouse(churchproperty),stillnotaxes,andletAlbert
livethere.
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[] Metafizics undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
didnteventhinkaboutthispossibility.fuckinridic.
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[] hyamsdv undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIRSwouldinvestigateandruleagainstthiskindofstuff.
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[] ahagglersdust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dumbass,youdon'tgettodeductcharitabledeductionsdollarfordollar.Soyouwouldbeleftwithataxbillandnomoney.
Charitabledeductionsalsohavelimits...Andthenthereisthealternativeminimumtax...
Thatisjustoffthetophowidioticthisis.IfwestarttalkingaboutallthewaystheIRScancollapseascamlikethis(iftheywant),
andthishasazeroprobabilityofworkingunderanyscrutiny.
Iamsurethatreligiousorganizationsabusedonations.Butyoureallyshouldcorrectreallyshittytaxtheoryandmakethepoint
someotherway.
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[] Bobbyjohns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptthattherearelimitstodeductsforcharitablegifts
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[] CanPoliEnthusiast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichisabout50%ofyourincome.
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That'sprettyhugeifyoujustgotpaid$9,000,000foramovie.
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[] bcb77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisdoesn'twork.Theactorshavetopaytaxesontheirmoneyfirst,thentheycandonateittoScientology.Thescamisthereligion
itself.Hubbardcreatedittomakemoneyforhimself.
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[] theembiggen3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUltraorthodoxmodel.
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[] Saratj1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'twanttosullyScientology'sgoodnamewouldwe.
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[] kaizervonmaanen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Scientologistsdon'tgivebackthemoneypaidexceptmaybetocelebrities.
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Opideawasthatitwasaschemeforcelebrities,sothatmakessense.
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Isthereanyrecordofanyofthemlivinglongtermonchurchownedproperty?
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Idon'thaveany,butiwasonlyprovidingthatasanexample.Thereisdefinitelytheissuewithforcedlabourintheirprivate
prison.
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[] DuttyMaltese undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andisn'tthemajorityofthattaxappliedwhenAlbertreceivesit?Sowhat'sthepointindonatingittoanorganizationthatwillinturn
receiveittaxfree?
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Yougetyourtaxesbackon5013(c)andreligiousdonations.
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Yeahgoodpointthat'swhatIreallymeantjustaplacefortherichtoavoidpayingtaxes.Youalsoarticulatedtheexampleyougave
muchbetterthanIdidkudosdude.
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[] Miserable_Fuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Readingallofthisbullshitthattheygetawaywith,I'mkindofhappythattheyarestillaround.Ihopetheygetbiggerandbolderwith
theirtaxevasionbusiness,untilthelawshavetobechanged.
Imean,theyaren'treallyhurtingme,andafaiktheydon'thaveahateagenda,right?Theykidnapandtorturesomeoftheirown
people,forreasons,butaslongastheydon'tfuckwithpeoplewhodon'tfuckwiththem,thengoforit.
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Bysayingthattheykidnapandtorturetheirownpeople,you'renowconsideredapersonwhofuckswiththem.
EnjoyyourR245.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R245
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[] LogiKSarg3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ELI5
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[] ahagglersdust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HereisyouELI5:"Johnny,themadmanjustmadethatup.Itisn'treal."
No,seriously,it'snotreal.Whatheissayingcannotbedonethereareabout10thingswrongwithit.Itdoesn'tevenqualify
ascreativeaccounting:itisjustoutrightlying/fraud.Basicallythesameasjustnotfilingataxreturn.
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[] LotsOfWatts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallymuchworsethansimplynotfilingareturn.
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ThebullyStevetakeshalfyourpocketmoney.Butifyougiveittome,hewontgetany,andI'llsharemycandywithyou.
Ifyouget$10frommum,youlose%5toSteve,andspend$5oncandy.
Ifyougivemethe$10,I'llbuycandy,andgiveyou$9$10ofit.Soundsgoodno?
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[] StruckingFuggle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FoundtheangryRepublican.
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[] ccchuros undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Man,Steve'sajerk.
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[] apennypacker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybeitisgoingon,butitisn'tlegal.Anything,beitsalaryorusageofpropertyforpersonaluse,paidtoindividualswouldbe
taxableincomeforthosepeople.Albertwouldhavetopaytaxesontheimputedvalueofanythingthathereceivesforpersonaluse
(likeahometolivein).
Ifitwasfoundout,theIRScouldgoafterthem.
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Assumingit'sactuallyhappening,theIRSwouldn'tdare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
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Whatdoyoumeantheywouldn'tdare?Didyoureadwhatyouposted?Thegovernmentwentafterthemandindicted
11leadersofscientology7ofwhichpleadguiltyandwe'resentenced.
Ifthereisanyorganizationouttherescarierthanscientology,itistheirs.AndtheUSgovernmentiscertainlymore
powerful.
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So,inthe70's,theymanagedtoputover5,000agentsintopositionsofpowerwithinthegovernment.It'snow
2015.Doyouthinkthatgovernmentorganisationsaren'tcurrentlyriddledwithScientologists?Giventheirauditing
process,doyouthinktheydon'thavedirt/powerovermanyinfluentialpeople?
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Meh,theymightbeeverywhere,butIdoubtit.Theirlistofpowerfulmembersisprettyunderwhelming.One
ortwoalistcelebsandabunchfromthebteam.Nopowerfulpoliticianstospeakof.Themorevisiblethey
makethemselves,themorelikelytheyaretobecomeatargetofsomeactuallypowerfulpeople.
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ThisisliterallythemostterrifyingthingaboutScientology.TheyhavepeopleEVERYWHEREandtheirspies
reportEVERYTHINGinaudits.Itshonestlyhowthey'vegottensopowerful.Infiltratingiswhattheydobest.
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[] zacker150 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyarealmostliterallyHYDRA.
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Iveheardthiscomparisonsomanytimesandihavetosayicompletelyagree.
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Idon'tunderstandhowthishasn'tresultedinmassivebacklashagainstScientology.Whyhasn'tsomeonelikelike
DonaldTrumpgivenaspeechcallingthemtraitorstothecountryandsayinghe'dtakeawaytheirtaxexemptstatus?
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Whyonearthwouldsomeonedothatwhentheycouldorhavejoinedinandaretaxfreethemselves?
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Trumpisn'taScientologist?
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Therearemanypossibilities.
Doesn'tknow,doesn'tcare,doesn'twanttodie,Scientologypeoplearerichandhe(directlyorindirectly)gets
moneyfromthem.
Thatlastoneisn'tassinisterasitsounds.PACsandSuperPACsarecommon.
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[] wings_like_eagles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thesecondtolastonesoundsabitmoresinister...
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[] SpaceGh0st undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'ttherebeaveryobviouspapertrailtothisthough?
It'snothardtofindallthecelebsthayareinscientologythenfindoutwhotheirhousesnameisin.Samewithcarsect.
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[] Chillibby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mactuallycuriouswiththisquestion.Wouldn'titjustbealoophole?Theoreticallytheyaren'tbreakinganylawsiftheyare
donatingthemoney,regardlessofhowtheyaretakencareofbythatentity.Imaybewrong,Idon'tknowsquataboutthis.
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[] Sapian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,basicallyit'saboutasillegalascorps.offshoringtheirmoney,it'saloopholethat'sbarelylegalandcertainly
immoral,butbarelylegalandcertainlyimmoralletsplentyofpeoplesleepfineatnight,sotheydoitwithasmile.
Ihadafriendinhighschoolwhowasoneofthebiggestpartiersandwomanizersoutofanyofus.Onedayoutofthe
bluehesay'sI'mgonnabecomeapastor.Whileoffcampusforlunch,asaskedhimstraightup,whatthehellman,this
doesn'tseemlikeyouatall.WhathesaidIwillneverforget."I'llstartoutmaking$60,000taxfreeforjackshit.They
saidtheywouldgivememyownchurch,houseandcarplus$60,000ayear."Iwasshockedandsaiddoyoueven
believeinGod?"Nah,notreallybutheyman$60,000ayearisniceplusI'llonlydoitfor510yearsandretireearly,
fuckit."
Mostofmyfriendsareatheistsbutfuck,Iwouldneversellmyhonororselfintegrity,andlietopeoplelikethatforso
little,butsomepeoplehavenoproblemIguess.
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[] Valkmir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,basicallyit'saboutasillegalascorps.offshoringtheirmoney,it'saloopholethat'sbarelylegaland
certainlyimmoral,butbarelylegalandcertainlyimmoralletsplentyofpeoplesleepfineatnight,sotheydoit
withasmile.
Pastor'spaytaxes.Alsohavefunretiringon300k400kofincome,likely180240kaftertaxesforthenext...510
yearsoutofcollege...that's30k40+years?Evenifeverylittletinythingwaspaidfor(it'snot)?
Yougonnaliveon45kayearuntilyoudie?riiiight.....maybeifyouliveinacardboardboxonthestreetcorner.
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Pastorsaren'tpaidtaxfree.Youstillhavetopayincometaxonthatincome.
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[] gameShark428 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justsomebodywho'sextrasaltytodayastheycouldn'tfindanyotherformofnutrition.
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[] beaudityoucanbe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pastorspayincometaxes.
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[] Promotheos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneofthemostfrustratingthingsaboutRedditisthatthesurestpathtodownvotesisaneditaboutdownvotes.
Itcanbeinfuriatingwhenyoureallyfeelrighteous,butyoumayaswellattackthetides.
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[] Sapian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,IwentbacktoproofreadmypostbetterasIwroteitquickly,itwasn'teven5minutesoldandit
alreadyhadazero,soitwasbeforeIeveneditedit.
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[] Cryzgnik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'smorefrustratingthatpeoplemakethoseedits.Ilikeyourtidesimilie.
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[] chloe_O_0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itfrustratesmethatpeopleopenlyselfcensorforkarma.Literallynoonecaresaboutyourkarma,
discussingitinnowayaddstothediscussionsoIdownvotekarmacommentsonprinciple.
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Ifyouarereceivingsomethingfromscientologyasabenefit,like,allowingyoutoliveinahouse,theIRSwouldrequire
thatyouimputethevalueofwhatyouarereceivingasincome.Soyouwouldn'treallygetanytaxbenefit.
Peoplecommonlymisunderstandwhatisactuallya"writeoff".AnotherexamplewouldbeanexecutivelikeMark
Zuckerberg.Hegetstoflyaroundinthefacebookprivatejet.Butifheusesthejetforanykindofpersonaloutings(non
business)thenheactuallyhastoeitherreimbursethecompanyforthatuse,orhewouldhavetoreportthevalueofthat
personalusageonhistaxesandthenpaytaxesonthatvalueasincome.
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[] sioux612 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Couldn'tFacebookcharterittohimat1dollarpertrip?
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No.TheIRSrequiresmarketratesforthingslikethat.Soyoucouldgivewhat'scalledasweetheartdeal,
buttheirswouldignoreitandimputetherealmarketvalueforwhatyoureceived.
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[] OPINION_IS_UNPOPULAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,FBshareholderswouldbereallypleasedaboutthat.
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[] some_whiteguy69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahbutifheholdsaannualconferenceinHawaiiandthengoestothebeachforvacationaftertheconference
that'sbusiness
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No,it'snot.However,ifhehasaconferenceonTuesdayandthursday,youwouldn'thavetopersonallypay
fortravelbecauseyougottohavefunonWednesday.Butthecompanywouldalsonotbeallowedtopay
forextrapersonalstuff,likeatriptothebeach.
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[] deans1925 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trickistomentionsomethingaboutbusinessatthebeachandthenyourbasicallyintheclear.
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Nope,won'tflywiththeirs.Wouldnotmeetthespecificrequirementssetforthbytheirs.
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[] deans1925 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weliterallyjustwentoverthisstuffinmytaxclass
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Thismightsoundcrazy,butthetriptothebeachispracticallyfree,incomparisontotheplaneticket,
hotelroom,andmeals(allofwhicharebusinessexpenses).
Oh,andiftheydecidetohaveabusinessmeetingonthebeach,well,theycanwriteoffthat$0ofgas
theyspentgettingtothebeach(let'sbehonest,they'restayingatabeachresort).
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Yes,youdogettohavefunwhileonabusinesstrip,thereisnothingwrongwiththat.Butthe
pointis,youcan'tjusttackfunontothebeginningorendofabusinesstripandthetripitselfhas
tobeforlegitimatebusinesspurposes.
Therereallyisn'tthatmuchtaxfraudgoingoninthelargecorporations.Theyhaveatargeton
themanditjustisn'tworththerisk.
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[] ugen64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthisreallythatunusualthough?Iworkatanaccountingfirmandwehaveaclientlocatedin
Aruba.Wewentonsitetodosomeworkforafewdays,thentookafewdaysofPTOand
enjoyedsometimeonthebeach(payingoutofpocketforanycostsincurredduringthosefew
days).Theamountofbusinessexpensesthatweretaxdeductiblewerethesameeitherway
planeticketthereandback,meals/lodgingforthedaysweweredoingwork.Whywould
taxpayerscareaboutthosefewextradaysaslongastheexpensesthatweretaxdeductible
werelegitimatebusinessexpenses?
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[] GemAdele undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallynot.Hewilleitherberesponsiblefortaxesontheequivalentamountofmoneyspenton
personal,orfortaxonthewholetrip.
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[] whalemingo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButifheaskedthewaiteratarestaurantwhathethinksofthenewupdatesmadetoFacebook,thenit
becomesabusinesslunch.Heispollingthepopulationrandomlytogetgenuinefeedback.Hecould
flytoMiami,stayinaposhhotelroom,eatafancydinner,andflybackhome.Ifheasksthreepeople
aboutFacebook,thewholeeventbecomesabusinesstrip.It'sallinthecreativeaccounting.
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[] marcusaurelius3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIRSwillfindoutifit'spervasiveenough.Theywillmakesurethemajoritypurposeofthe
mealwasforbusiness.
Also,youcanonlydeducthalfofthe"mealsandentertainment"evenifitdoesapply.
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No.Noneofthescenariosyououtlinedwouldmeettheirsrequirementsforabusiness
expense.
Andevenincaseswhereitdoesmeetthecriteria,youcanusuallyonlyexpensehalfofthe
meal.
Thatkindof"creativeaccounting"willgetyouintotroublewiththeirs.
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[] Apollo_5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Organizedlaborhere,wecantraveltosigndifferentunionlocalbooksandwriteofftravelexpenses.
Howisthatdifferent?
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[] hutcho66 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sure,buttheflightsarestilltaxfree.Itwouldonlybeanythingextrahewouldhavetopayfor.
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I'dhavetodigoutmytextbooksfromtaxaccounting,butI'mprettysuretransportationbecomes
taxableoncethetripgoesoveracertainpercentageofpersonalvsbusiness.
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[] ugen64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatissowrongaboutthat?JustbecauseHawaiiisavacationdestinationdoesn'tmeanyou
canpreventcompaniesfromholdingmeetingsthere.Myfirmsendsalltheirinternstoanice
locationforinternorientationeveryyear(lastyearitwasMiami,thisyearweareconsidering
Vegas)wheretheyspend8hoursadayinclassbutobviouslythatisn'treallythepointof
hostingitinMiamiorVegas.OneofmyclientshostedtheirannualcompanyretreatattheRitz
CarltoninCancunlastyear...
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[] kindakrazy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoiskeepingtrackofallthat?
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[] EnbyDee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PAstendtokeeptrackofthistypeofthing,ifthey'regoodandhavebeen'trained'alittlebytax
accountantssuchasmyselfoverataxseasonortwo.
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[] Cryzgnik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Auditors
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[] workahowlic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OPwasjustgivingaverybasicexample.Throwinsomesupercreativeaccountants,????PROFIT!!!!
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[] Valkmir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'slikesaying
Bombtheshitoutofthem,?????,Winthewar!
It'sjustagrossmisrepresentationofthecomplexityofthesituation.Ifyouwanttoaccusesomeoneoftaxevasionfine
that'sfraudulent,etc.Butthatdoesn'tmean"Hecanlikedonatehismoneytothechurch,thenthechurchcouldpayfor
hisstuff!!111oneoneone".andwhensomeonerefutesthatpointtorespond"well,it'scomplicatedandIdon'tknowhow
itworks,butI'msuretheyaredoingit"justbegsthereadertoask"thenwhyareyoucommentingonit?"
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[] letterT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CPAmantotherescue
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[] TheDedicatedDeist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.
Creativeaccountingmakeanythingpossible.
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[] Chief176 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LestergaveFranklinbigsumsofcashandanicehow'saftersomecreativeaccounting.
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[] phoenixink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
How'sthat?
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[] Tambourineman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mconvincedScientologyisjustafront,it'ssoridiculousthatIjustcan'tbelieveallthepeopleactuallybelieveinit.Itwouldexplainall
thesecrecyandhowharditistoleave.IguesswewillneverknowforsurebutI'malmostcertainthereligionisjustusedasacoverup.
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[] gimpisforbitches undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ofcourseitsacoverup,areyouserious?
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Youdon'tknowwhatmoneylaunderingisifyouthinkthisisthecase.Moneylaunderingissomethingpeoplewhomaketheirmoney
illegallyneedtoparticipatein.Youlaundermoneybypayingtaxesonit,nottheotherwayaround.Drugdealersaregangstersare
alwayslookingfornewwaystopaytaxes.
Thereasonforthisisthatanypurchaseyoumakeover$10,000.00isreportedtotheIRS.Soifyouhave$10millionincashsitting
aroundwithnotaxespaidonityoucan'tbuyanythingworthmorethan$10,000.00withouteventuallybeingflaggedbythefedsand
gettingbusted.
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wowthatmakesalotofsense.
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[] VoForMyPo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldtheyneedtolaundermoney?Mostcelebincomeislegitimate.
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Itbetoavoidtaxes.Theydonatesay10milliontoscientologyandscientologyreturnslike9or9.5milliondollarstothemwithoutit
beingtaxed.I'mnoexpertonthesubjectjustgivingareallycrudeexample
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Thatisn'tmoneylaunderingthough,it'staxfraud.
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[] cwestn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisn'ttaxfraudthough,it'staxevasion.
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[] Sock_of_Ir_Yut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifitactuallyhappened,itwouldbefraud.Butitdoesn't,becauseitwouldn'tbeworthit.
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[] Themis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Celebritymembersgetalotoffreethings&donatealotofmoney.It's...almostlikethey'rebuyingperks,
butwithtaxexemptfunds.
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[] Sock_of_Ir_Yut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyfreeshittheygetissubjecttotaxation.Areallofyouretarded?Thisisbasictaxlaw.
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Actually,no,havingthechurchprovideaprivateclub(whichthechurchofScientologydoes)is
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notataxableevent.Havingthechurchprovideafreedoctorisalsonotataxableevent.
Gettingagiftofmoneyaboveacertainamount($14K)istaxable,butmostservicesaren't,
whentheyaren'tpurchasedbutrathergiven.
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Nobodyintheirrightmindwants910milliondollarsuntaxedbecauseyou'llbereportedonanypurchaseover$10,000.00.
TheWHOLEPOINToflaunderingmoneyisTOPAYTAXES.
FFSguys
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YeahwhatIreallymeantwassomesortoftaxevasionortaxfraudschemeI'mreallyignorantonthosesubjectssoI
justgaveareallybasicexample.
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WhichiswhyOPshouldchangethatto"taxfraud"not"moneylaundering."
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[] mbbird undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tunderstandmoneylaunderingenoughtoupvotethisbutIdon'ttrustredditenoughtonotmessthiskindofthing
up.
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[] brosamabinladen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Watchbreakingbad
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[] InvadedByMoops undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'ssayyou'vebeensellingashitloadofdrugswhilebeingofficiallyunemployed.Youmake$150,000andwant
tobuyabrandnewcarincash.Obviouslybuyingsuchanexpensivethingwillthrowupredflagssinceyouhave
noreportedincome.
Howcanyouaffordsuchacarwithnomoney?Theremustbesomeillegalshenanigansgoingon.
Ifyoustartmoneylaundering,youcanreportofficialonthebooksincomethroughalegitimatebusinessusing
falsifiedcashtransactions.Processthecashyoumadethroughdrugsales,payyourincomeandsocialsecurity
taxes,throwupnoredflags.
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[] JungGeorge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Moneylaunderingistheactofreportingillegallyobtainedincomeaslegallyearned,inordertopaytaxesonthe
moneythusavoidingscrutinyfromtheIRSandbyextensionotherfederalinvestigatuveagencies
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Seemoneylaunderingiswhatcomesaftertaxfraud.Basicallypeoplehideincometoavoidtaxes.Thisistax
fraud.Nowthatmoneyneedstobeputsomewhere.Usuallyinoffshoreaccountsetc.Buttouseitafterthatthey
needtogetitbacktothecountry.Thisprocessofturningillegitimatecashtolegitimatecashismoneylaundering
(likelaunderingofclothesremovingthefilth).Butwhentheylaunderittheyneedtopaytaxesbutwithoutthe
finesandotherconsequences.
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[] DisarmingBaton5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Manysmalltransactions?
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Wouldn'ttheybetaxedonthe9million??
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[] 68572Q72J2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITHINKit'ssomethingtodowithScientologiesstatusasareligious/charitableorganisation?Basicallyitletsthemdo
shadytaxavoidingthingswith'donations'and'rewards'.
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ThatmaybetruebedonatingtoScientology,butasfarasIknowifthemoneycomesback,that'sincome
becausethereceivingpartyisn'ttaxexempt.Icouldbewrongthough!
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[] cwestn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthehouseorwhateverstaysinthechurch'snameIthinkhecanjust"beallowedtostaythere"
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[] Coal_Morgan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfIwasTomCruise.IdonatethemaximumamountIcantotheChurchthatbecomesataxwriteoff.The
churchtakesthatmoneymovesittoanoffshorebankaccount.Themoney90%isthentransferredtomy
ownnumberedbankaccountintheCaymans.
Boom,savedmyselfhowevermuchshouldhavebeentaxedandgotitoffshorewithoutthegovernment
knowing.
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[] 68572Q72J2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIdon'treallyknowmyself,either.It'sjustsomethingIthoughtofwhenIwaswonderingwhysomany
highprofilecelebritiesarescientologists.Eitherthey'reallmorons,orthere'ssomethingmoretoitthanthe
religion.
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IdklikeIsaidI'mnoexpertthatwasjustareallycrudeexample.
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[] CKtheFourth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikeyoucanautodonatetocharitiespretaxedinyourpaycheck.Imightbemakingthatup,butIfeellike
thatcameupinanHRseminaronetime.Iwasn'tfullypayingattention.
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thishasbeenproven.
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[] OrbitRock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcan'tjustthrowthatburritoonthetablewithnosauce.
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[] ersatz_substitutes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Unlessit'sapuddingburrito,that'swhereyou'llfindyourproof.
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[] notgmoney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mehhhherrerhhokupvote
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[] SteveBorden undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allspotcreamisdesignedsothatitwillonlybeslightlyeffective,makingyouneedtobuymoreandmoreofit.Andthere'snothingwe
cando,becauseslightlyeffectiveisallwehave.
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[] stormjh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beyoncewasneverpregnant.
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[] AorticFF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatPrincePhillippaidsomeonetorunDianaofftheroadashedidn'twanthermarryingAlFayed.
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[] duglarri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Filmoftheconspirators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q
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ThewayDianawaskilledwasintheexactsamemannerMI6cameupforassassinatingSlobobanMilosevic.
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[] MajorNoodles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethattherewasaconspiracytohaveherkilledbystagingacarcrash,butshediedinanactualaccidentanyway.
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[] just_leavingthishere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlFayad'sbeachhouseisstillemptyandlooksawesome.It'slike2blocksoverfrommyAunt'ssoIwouldseeitwhenwalkingonthe
beach.
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[] NintenPls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthattherumorwasthatshewaspregnantandrunningawayfromthepaparazzibecauseshehadababybumpthatthey
wouldhaveseen.
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Nah,IthinkitwastheQueen.
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[] AltSpRkBunny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,ifanybodyactuallycaredenoughtokillher,it'dbeTheQueen.Ithinkatthatpoint,evenPrinceCharleswould'vewishedher
wellaslongashecouldkeepfuckingCamilla.
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[] creep_with_mustache undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhonestlythinkPrncePhillipcouldn'tgivelessofafuck.Aboutanything,really.
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Yeah.MaybesomeoneelseintheroyalfamilybutPhiltheGreekseemssooutofitanduncaring(inagoodway)allthetimethatI
don'tthinkhe'dwastehisowntimetohaveherkilled...
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[] indoubitabley undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idunno,IloveourcrazyPrincePhil,butafterreadinghislifestory,heholdsgrudgesandisbrazenenoughtousethesystem
to'off'someonewhowentagainsttheregalwaysasmuchasLadyDianadid.
Shewasbadforbusiness.
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Shewasbadforbusiness.
Gettinginacarwithadrunkdriverbehindthewheelisevenworseforbusinesslife.
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Ifwe'regoingwithconspiracies,whichthisthreadisabout,therearealoadoftheorieshowheendedupdrunk,or
whyadrunkdriverwashiredforthejob.
There'snotmanybettertargetsthana'commoner'whodivorcedyournextinlineson,who's2ndchildlooksmore
liketheguywhowroteatellallbookthanCharlie.
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There'snotmanybettertargetsthana'commoner'whodivorcedyournextinlineson,andwho's2nd
childendedupginger,afteralineofsaxon/germanic/greekheritage.
ExceptredhairrunsintheSpencerfamily.CharlesSpencerandLadySarah(Spencer)McCorquodaleboth
haveredhair.
Genetics,howdoesitwork?
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[] panzerdarling undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snotmanybettertargetsthana'commoner'whodivorcedyournextinlineson,who's2ndchild
looksmoreliketheguywhowroteatellallbookthanCharlie.
Uh...Dianawasnowherenear'commoner'.Shewasthedaughterofthe8thEarlofSpencer,andsisterof
the9th.There'safewduchiesstillhangingaroundinhandsotherthanWindsor,butnotenoughtoputEarl
allthatfarbeneaththeroyals.
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Comparedtothelinagepreceding,whenmarriagebetweenroyalswasmorepolitical,almosttothe
extentofinbreeding,shewasquitefardowntheline.
Fairenough,commonerisn'treallythecorrectterm,butfromGreekPhil'spointofview,onlythe
mediaandimmediatefamilywouldcare.
Ifshewasalreadyaprincessfromanothercountry,itwouldhavebeendifferentmatter,causing
diplomaticrelationstobreakdownasthecriminalinvestigationwouldhavehadmorepressureto
proceedfurther,butthat'sjustmyopinion.
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[] Sofare undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Especiallywhosomeoneismarrying,imsuretheresmoreimportantthingstokillpeopleover
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Especiallywhosomeoneismarrying,imsuretheresmoreimportantthingstokillpeopleover
Theywould'velethermakeherselfintoaninternationaltrashyjokelikeJackieKennedyOnassis.Shewouldn'thavekeptthe
world'sloveforlonghermajorpersonalitydisorderwould'vehadherdestroyingherownimageatsomepoint.
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[] oo5050100 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhyisJackieKennedyconsideredtrashy?(askingseriously)AllI'veseenwaspeoplecallingherfashionstyleclassy
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Shewasthoughttohave"marrieddown"bymarryingOnassis.Thatwholethingwasthoughttobeprettytrashy
bymany.
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[] MrAgamemnon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
imsuretheresmoreimportantthingstokillpeopleover
Yeah,likeprinceHarrynotbeinghisgrandson...
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Ohforfuck'ssake.
Dianadidn'tmeetJamesHewittuntilafterHarrywasborn.HarrygotthatredhairfromtheSpencers.WitnessCharles
SpencerandLadySarah(Spencer)McCorquodale.
IfHarryisHewitt'skid,itwasanaccidentwithaTARDISandacontraceptive.
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[] DrDaruwalla undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthedoctoralwaysdidwanttobeaginger.
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Actually,thisexplainsalot.LOL
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[] Starcop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthere'sawholegroupofpeoplededicatedtopostingthissamequestionandthesameanswerevery3days.
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[] Vegglimer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mperfectlywillingtobelieve9/11wascommittedbytheUSgovernment,oratleastsomebranchofit,likeCIA.
Forsomereason,thesamepeoplewhoberateourpreviousgenerationforbeingblindtothetrutharealsodismissinganyoneskeptical
about9/11asidiots.
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It'ssimilartothosedismissingUSinvolvementintheuprisingofISIS.Ifthenarrativecanbechangedsoastoimplyincompetenceon
thepartoftheestablishment,thepeoplewilllooktheotherway.
Ithinkweallknowdeepdownthatalotofstuffisn'taddingup,butweconvinceourselvesthatthebiggestsuperpowerintheworld,
withthebiggestmilitarybudgetandmostcapablearmyknowntoman,justaccidentallymessesupeverythingtheytouch...
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[] mjj1492 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Committed?Probablynot.Allowedtohappen?WhenyoulookatwhatBushdidtodismantleClinton'seffortstostopBinLaden,it
seemsmorethanlikelytheyknewitwascomingandusedittostartthetwowars
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DonaldRumsfledannouncingthatdefencecouldn'ttrack2.3trilliondollarsthedaybefore9/11.
Therearelotsoflittlethingslikethis.
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[] Vegglimer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Averyvalidargumentaswell!
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[] Fuck_You_Gravity_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtnyLovekilledKurtCobain
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CourtneyKill*lovedKurtCobain.
*daughterofformerUofMinnesotafootballcoachJerryKill
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[] ewrewr1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
META:BrillianttrollwhistleOP!Theyallcameout.
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[] MugatusDog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OP'smomisawhore.Onlyduetothevastamountofpeopleonlinethatvehementlydefendit.Hastobetrue
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[] TBestIG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthJarJaristhemostconvincingconspiracytheoryI'veeverread
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It'snotevenaconspiracynoratheoryatthispoint.ThewayhewalkstowardstheelevatortogreettheJedisandthenchangeshis
dispositioninasecond?Iamsold.
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Thepartthatgotmewashimmouthingthewordsothercharacterswerespeaking,andtheZuiQuan
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Isawsomeonepresenttheideainathreadbefore,buttheonlyevidencetheyprovidedwasthathewaslikeYoda,asilly,goblin
creaturethatyouwouldneverexpecttobeagrandforceuser.ThatwastheleastpersuasiveargumentI'deverseen,butthenagainit
wasmadeinlikea6lineRedditcomment.I'msurethere'savideoorwebsitethatexplainsitmorethoroughly.
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Thenyouhavenotunderanycircumstancesseenthetheoryinallitsglory.Isuggestyoulookitup,it'sreallycool.
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[] carolinemathildes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*DarthDarthBinx
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[] cranberry_hole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Portstarname:DorthyBinxxx
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Itactuallymakesatonoffuckingsense.Thethingthatmakesitconvincingtomeisthatbecausethemovieswereprequelseveryone
alreadyknewthebasicsoftheplotsotokeepthingsinterestingitwouldhavemadealotofsensetohaveahugesurpriseoccurinthe
secondfilm.
JarJaractuallydidgivetheemperorcontroloftheSenatesothatpieceofplotsurvived.AndDooku'scharacterreallydoesn'tmakea
tonofsensebecausehejustpopsinoutofnowheretobethevillainofthesecondmovie.
Though,itmighthaveevenmademoresenseinretrospecttohaveQuiGonbecomeDookubutreallynooneknows.
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[] TheClimor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AntiviruscompaniescreatecomputervirusestosellmoreAntivirussoftware.
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Globalwarming.
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[] citatser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ControlleddemolitionoftheWTCcomplexon9/11.
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[] dcikid12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsomeonewillpost"Whatconspiracytheoryisprobablytrue"justtogetkarma.
Thatbeingsaid,cokeandPepsiintentionallyfightagainstwaterinfrastructureindevelopingcountriestoensurethateveryonebuys
theirbottledwaterbrands.
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[] NoFapCrew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthepornindustryispayingthemedicaltogiveusfalseinformationonmasturbation+porn
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diesnakeperson
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[] ElGordo18 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Protontorpedoescan'texplodesteelspacestations!Thedeathstarwasaninsidejob!
WakeupC3PEOPLE!!!!!!!
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[] ROBO_SPARTAN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PROTONTORPEDOSCANTMELTDURASTEELBEAMS!
FTFY.
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lukesprotontorpedodidn'tblowupthedeathstarthereactoritmetwithdestroyedthedeathstar
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[] ElGordo18 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'rejustdeludedbytheofficialimperialstatement,youneedtowakeuptothetruth
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t16bulletsdon'tbullseyewhomprats...theirfailuretoevolvekevlarlikehidesdoes.
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WhileallotherfightersweregroundedDarthVader'swasallowedtolaunch.
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touche',Ibelieve.
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[] MrStripeyTails undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatthequeenisalizardperson
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[] Afros_are_Power undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theilluminatiisusingmindcontroltomakepeoplepostthisexactsamequestioneverymonth.
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[] DankLiam007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Memesarenotdreams
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[] JuanDirections undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Illuminati
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[] Imperium_Dragon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leastpossibleone:BearenstainBearswormholetheory
Mostlikely:SomethingSomethingJFK
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[] Kamikazethecat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icould'veswornitwasBaronastoin
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Bareassstain
FTFY
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[] pentestscribble undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] CorbinatorZ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatOP'smomisawhore.
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that'snotatheory
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Canconfirm.Notatheory.
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[] MG87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
R+L=J
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[] Belisarius25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,D+D=T
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wat?
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[] Belisarius25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somethingpostedonr/ASOIAFafewmonthsagoaboutTyrionbeingthetimetravelingfetusofDanyandDrogo.
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LOLthatshilariouslyinsane
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Rightandleft=Jews?
Cincinnaticonfirmed.
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[] TheAdmiester undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoesthismean?
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Ithastodowiththelineageofacertaincharacterfromthefictionalseries"GameofThrones".Somepeoplethinkthatcertain
characterisactuallythechildoftwocharacterswhohaveimportancebutnoscreentime.
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[] TheAdmiester undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh.
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[] minastirith1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?
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GameofThronestheory
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*Fact
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YeahbutknowingGRRMhe'llbeall"PYCSHE,JONSNOWWASADOTHRAKIALLALONG"
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[] JJMythic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'treallyaconspiracyisit?Ithoughtthiswasprettymuchconfirmed?
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[] TwoBonesJones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GRRMoriginallyplannedthreebooks,AGameOfThronesbeingthefirst.Obviouslythishasevolvedintowhatisnowtobeseven
books.
Anyway,thefirstbookissofullofprophecyandforeshadowing,thatit'salmosttheonlybookIrefertowhencomingupwithcrack
pottinfoiltheoriesregardingtheendofthestory.
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[] Rawr_Love_1824 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahbuthescrappedthisbeforeheevenwrotethebooks
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Scrappedwhat?
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[] Rawr_Love_1824 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theideaofthebooksbeingatrilogy
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Threedragonswalktheearth...
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Thedragonhasthreeheads.
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Prettymuch.
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[] hellotoyourface undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheRoyalFamilyhereinBritainprobablyhadsomehandinPrincessDiana'sdeath.
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[] cantthinkofnames1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptthatiftheywantedtokillhertheywouldn'thavedonesomethingsounreliableasacarcrash.
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[] essaysmith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thethingthatgetsmeisthatithasbeenshown(don'trememberwherenow)thatshewouldhavesurvivedtheaccidentifshehad
beenwearingherseatbelt.
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[] NatalieIsFreezing 3749points
JFKshotfirst.
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[] mrfreshmint undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Canyouexplainthisplease?
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[] ejjus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasjustified.
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Interestingly,thisisalsotrueofLincoln.
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[] stay_hungry_dr_ew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
themagicbullet
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[] Choking_Smurf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veneverheardofthis.Explain?
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[] Gunbattling undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Explain?
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[] n0remack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hothwasaninsidejob.
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[] ChiefGnar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Someonepleaseexplain...
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[] Peccata undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ipersonallylikethetheorythathewasaccidentally(nonot"accidentally"anactualhonestaccident)killedbyoneofhissecretservice
agentsduringthecommotion.
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[] PlumRugofDoom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Caretoexplain?
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[] Absentfromabsinth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OrthatheoriginallyendedtheworldduetoColdWarconfrontationandwentbackintimetokillhimself.
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[] Slumberrr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Caretoelaborate?
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[] MilesTheDog86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasatmythanksgivingwhenmybrothertoldusthatJackieOwasaCIAagentthatshotJFKinthecar.Hewasdeadserious.Other
theorywasthesecretserviceagentlefthisfunoffthesafetyandwhenjumpingtothebackofthecarHeshotKennedy.
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[] Super13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanksforthelaugh:)
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[] helpmybuttleaks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OkayI'massumingthisisajoke,butIdon'tknowenoughtogoawayfromthiscontent.
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[] BreeRad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NawitwasTheComedian.
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[] ForceTouch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatJFKwaskilledbyasecretserviceagentpaidbyLBJ.
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Yes,heshothimselffromthegrassyknoll.Didn'tyouseethatdocumentary"RedDwarf"?
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[] invalid_usr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'trecallhimshootinganyone...
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Occam'sRazor.
JFKwasHanSolo.
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[] dogedickguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nahcmonmanthatmakesnosense,doyouevenknowwhatOccam'sRazormeans?
itmeansthesimplestexplainationisalwayscorrect.
Anywayswaitthatclearedupnowletssee...JFKmetHanSolointhefuture(theywerebothfromthefuture)andtheydecidedthatif
theytimetraveledtothepasttheycouldprobablymakelotsofmoneythroughthesaleofhoney.Youseeitssomewhatdifficultto
explainwhybuthadJFKnotbeenshot,honeypriceswouldbefarlower.SoJFKtraveledbackintimeandbecamepresidentand
usedadummyfromanotherreality(onewhereJFKexistedexactlythesamebutwithnoconsiousmind,soitsmorallyok)sothen
JFKwentupandshothismindlessdoppleganger,didabitofframingtogenerateconfusion(thisisactuallyanother20%ofthe
honeypricehike)andthenheleftandwentbacktothefutureandmetoneofObama'sdescendentswhogavehimapurplestarfor
raisingthepriceofhoneyenoughsuchthatthealienswhoareattackinghumanitywhousehoneyasfuelcan'tbuyanymore.
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[] dogwaterbaby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LeeHarveyOswaldaimbot
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[] knirefnel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noscope?Nomonitor.
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[] ohstrangeone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisthreadneededa[Serious]tag...
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[] Polite_Werewolf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknowthisisajoke,butthatwouldbeahellofatwist.
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[] Wealthy_Big_Penis_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
?
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[] mattjulip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didyoujustquotepixels?
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[] TransformersDude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellIknowwhatterriblemoviethisredditorsaw
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7/11wasaparttimejob
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[] dank0e undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tgetthisone
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[] ASovietSpy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sajokeonthe"Hanshotfirst"jokefromANewHope.
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[] GuyWithATopHat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallyareferencetothemoviepixels
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[] Mocha_Bean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthisimpliesanyoneactuallywatchedthatmovie.
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Iwasoneofthedozen,anditsurprisedme.BestSandlermovieinyears.Mademestophatinghimsomuch...
fuckinJackandJill
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WhichisajokeforthereasonIexplained.
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Exceptit'snot.Doyouevenknowthecontextofthehomeinthemovie?
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Ihaven'tseenitsopleaseexplaintomehowit'snotaplayontheHanshotfirstjoke.
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Shelterscharacterisquestioningthewonderkidaboutwhyhedidn'tjustpickupthephoneandcall
himinsteadofhidinginthebackofhisvan,andthewonderkidsreasonisthattheCIAhasbeen
takinghisphoneeversincehefoundoutthezapruderfilmhadbeenedited,andJFKshotfirst.I
supposeitcouldhavebeenareferencetotheHanjoke,butthejokeservedmoreasawayto
demonstratethekindofconspiracynutthatthewonderkidis,thanitdidanythingelse
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[] AJV453 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustsawthemovieyesterday.Wasindeedastarwarsreferenceatthesametimeasbeing
funnyforbeinganespeciallyabsurdJFKconspiracytheory,whichservedtodevelopthe
characteratthesametime.VerycleverjokeImustsay.
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DefinitelyaHanshotfirstreference.
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[] blubernabber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Connollyshotsecond
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[] 240to180 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
i'mlost...
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[] ThisVersionOfMyself undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyonecaretodebatethemagicbullettheorythatwasactuallyoverturnedin1978?
Igetit,the3shotsfromOswaldhavebeenprovedabletobefired,andaccuratelyenough...butnotfromtheanglestheyhithim.
TheXmenMagnetotheoryismoreplausiblethanthat.
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[] roundhousekicktothe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thethirdbulletwasdifferentthanthefirsttwostraightthroughbulletvsexplodingbullet.MightbethatSecretServiceAgent
GeorgeHickeyridinginthefollowupcarhadhisfingeronthetriggeroftheriflekeptcockedandloadedinthecarandwhenthecar
veeredforwardafterthefirsttwoshots,accidentallypulledthetriggerhittingKennedyinthehead.
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Nah
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[] twoscoopsofpig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKshotfirst
FTFY
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[] Sbrodino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKded
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[] nr1988 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKiskill
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[] jtw7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
no
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[] Sbrodino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
isayyouheded
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I'mnotsayinghedidn'tdielater,justthatheshot.
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[] Waspeater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isayyouhedead
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[] NostalgicRogue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoOswald(ALLEGEDLY!)shotbackinselfdefense?
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[] realpsych22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasstandinghisground.
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Iloveyourusername!
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Ohmygodthisisgenious.Don'tgetcocky,though!
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[] wrinklylemons undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
genious!
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Thisisfromthemoviepixels
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What,really?Hiscommentjustnowortheoriginal?
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Theoriginal
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[] spacepilot_3000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Greedowasadoubleagent
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[] DarthFarious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ForgivemebutIdon'tgetthedoubleagentreference.
Canyoupleaseenlightenme?
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Somewhereelseinthisthreadthere'sabunchofinfoonLeeHarveyOswaldpossiblybeingadoubleortriplegovernment
agentwiththeSoviets
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[] nothing_in_my_mind undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PalpatinedidAlderaan.
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Greedo:Grassyknoll
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Thetwintowersattackedtheplanes.
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Theyswungfirst
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XWingFuelCan'tMeltDurasteelBeams.
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[] Matrix_V undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
+1forEUterminology.
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[] ghtuy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Transparisteelbeams?
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[] Matrix_V undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Awyeah.+1
Howaboutflimsiplastbeams?Getit?Flimsi?I'llshowmyselftheblastdoors.
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[] Weis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PalpatineescapedtoArgentina
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Hewasnotadoubleagent!HewasframedbytheEmpire,hewasjuststudyinginthatholocrondepository!
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[] nuesuh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wtf:D
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[] Wilreadit 2points
Themoonlandingwasstaged
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[] oceanjunkie 7points
ObamaisworkingfortheUSgovernment.
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There'snowaythiscanbetrue.
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[] rcbs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoumeanKenyangovernment
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thatRatbastard
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9/11wasaninsidejob
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[] Korleonis 3points
Thatyouradopted.
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Youradoptedwhat?Didyoumeanyou're?
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[] Quizzelbuck 6points
Theverynatureofconspiracytheoriesdictatestheyareallunlikelytobetrue.
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[] wheelsofconfusion666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatttt???Pleaseexplain.
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[] laughterwithans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lolwat?
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[] misternigga 3points
TheBushadministrationprobablyhadsomeroletoplayinplanningthe9/11attacks,consideringhowtighttheyallwerewiththe
Saudis,howthebinLadenfamilywasflownoutofthecountrytwodayslater,howBushignoredtheFBImemodatedAug.6,2001
sayingalQaedawasplanningtoattackamajorlandmark,howthemilitaryjetswereneverscrambledwhenthewarningscamein,and
howmuchtheystoodtogainfromthewholething.Thecontrolleddemolitiontheoryisalittlefarfetched,alongwiththatwholepart
aboutFlight93goingtoCincinnatiandthePentagonbeinghitbyacruisemissile,butIthinkseniormembersoftheBushadministration
andalQaedaattheveryleastkepteachotherintheloop.
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[] TripleKappa 7points
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[] InbredLefthand 8points
Jewishbankersruntheworld.
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[] Mr_kucing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereareawholeloadofnonJewishbankerstoo,insimilarlyhigh(andhigher)positionsthantheJewishones.Idon'tthinkraceis
reallyrelevant.AndifitwasexclusivelyJewsandtheyreallydidhaveworldcontrollingpower,I'mprettydamnsuretheywouldhave
sortedouttheuttermessthatistheIsraelPalestineconflict.IfIrantheworld,that'sprobablysomethingI'dconsiderworkingon.
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Jewsruntheworld.
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[] AVerySexyDisability undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhydoesitmatterthattheyareJewish?Isntitprobablysurethatabunchofchristianandnonjewishbankersalsohaveahighlevelof
control.Maybebankerscontroltheworld,butidoubtthattheyarejewishmatters.
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because/pol/
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Chinesetradersruntheseas.
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[] mastersw999 4points
IliketothinktheJFKassassinationhassometruthtoit.
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IliketothinktheJFKassassinationhassometruthtoit.
SoyouliketothinkJFKwasassassinated?Kindagoingoutonalimbthere.
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[] PM_ME_ALIEN_STUFF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkOP'schoiceofwordsillustratesabitofsheepishuncertaintybehinda"confession"thathefeelswouldhavehimlabeledasa
looneyinothercircumstances.Idon'tthinkhiswordsshouldbetakensoliterally.
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[] LeoLittleCry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allthetruth.Astothetheoriesaboutwhoexactlydiditandwhy,theycanbekindoffarfetched,butitdefinitelywasn'tOswaldandit
wasprobablytheCIA
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[] Dontreadthis98 8points
Tupaccouldbealive
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i'mverymuchalive...steveirwinandIhangoutineasternAustralia.
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You'regonnastandthere,ownin'afireworksstand,andtellmeyoudon'thavenowhistlin'bungholes,nospleensplitters,whisker
biscuits,honkeylighters,hooskerdoos,hooskerdon'ts,cherrybombs,nipsydaisers,withorwithoutthescooterstick,oronesingle
whistlin'kittychaser?
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AnyluckformyboyBiggie?
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yeahbuthe'supset
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Nope.Deadasfuck.
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[] ToiletMike 6points
Bushdid9/11
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Bushisn'tevensmartenoughtodo7/11.
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[] AlipheeseFateburn 1point
Ithinkthatspotcreamdoesn'tgetridofspotsatall,ifanything,Ithinkitgivesyoumorespotssoyoubuymore.
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canconfirmappliedspotremovertospot.Dogisstillhere
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[] TheNoveltyHunter 33points
EntretainmentmagazinesandTVchannelsconstantlyshitonYoutubeandnewyoungInternet'celebrities'tokeeppeopleawayfrom
them,oratleasttogetclicks,viewers,andpurchasesfromthesamefansdefendingwebpersonalities,especiallyfromthegamerside
ofYoutube.
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[] tiffibean13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DoyourememberE!'smassivefuckupattheteenchoiceawardswhenitcametoYouTubers?
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[] lookieausername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowadaystherearesomanyfuckingawardsshows,Ineverwatchanyofthemanymore.Caretoelaborate?
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[] Lemonhead_27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MatPatfromGameTheorymadeaprettyconvincingvideoonit.
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[] Davidisontherun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Link?
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[] huarachelight 1183points
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iirc,wasn'ttheoneaboutasecretdealbeingmadetonotreleaseiranianhostagesuntilafterthe1980electionbasicallyallbut
confirmedbymultiplefolksontheinside?Couldbewrong.
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Unfortunatelyno,nottrue.TheIraniansfreedthehostagesaftertheelectionasafinal"fuckyou"toCarter.ButReagan'speoplehad
nothingtodowithit.
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Yep,thishappened.There'salotmoretoitthanthat,andit'saprettybigrabbitholetogodown.
Thehostageswerethingslike"pressattache"andsuchwhicharebasicallythetraditionalrolesCIAtakeascoveratdiplomatic
missions.SimilarhappenedinBenghazi.
Iwasprettyawareofthebullshit,butIwasalsoaneighborwithoneofthehostages.Afterknowinghimforawhileandgettingsome
drinksinhim,thequestion"WhatereyoudoinginIrananyway?"ledtohimconfirmingwithawinkthathewasCIA.
RememberBushSr.(Reagan'spotentialVIPatthetime)wasaformerCIAdirector.Ifthehostageswerenotheldback,theywouldbe
releasedelectionyearandCarterlikelywouldhavegottenasecondterm.Thisiswheretheterm"OctoberSurprise"comesfrom.
Argodidatotalwhitewashofthisstory.
Lotsofconspiracytheoriesarebullshit.However,theCIAisstillahugemultibilliondollaragency(andthat'snotevenincludingthe
blackbudget.)Theydothings.Sometimessuccessfully,sometimestheyarecaught,andsometimesthegetcaughtandmakedealsto
coveritup.
ThisispartoftheIranContrascandal,andthereareevenlargerscandalsthatthisisasmallpartof.
Ifyouwanttolookupalittleonthischeckoutoutofthehostages"BarryRosen."Icanconfirmhe'sCIA.Lookathishistory.Notealso
thatColumbiaUniversityisanotoriousCIAhotbed.LastIcheckedhewasdoing"educationmissions"inAfghanistan.
Mostofthisisoutintheopen,ifyoudoenoughresearchandreadbetweenthelines.Igotabitofextrainformationknowingoneofthe
people,andgiventhatmightfamilyhassomereluctantintelligenceconnections.
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Ithinkthatwaslikelyjustacoincidence.
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[] John_YJKR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noonereliableconfirmedorprovedanyofthatisaccurate.Theonlypeoplethattrulybelievethatareliberalswhodon'twanttoadmit
Carterwascluelessandlackedabackbone.JimmyCarterisagreatmanandhumanitarianbuthehandledthesituationpoorly.The
ReaganadministrationhadzeroqualmswithinvadingIrantomakeastatement.Iranknewthisandhadotherfishtofry.That'swhy
theyreleasedthehostageswhentheydid.
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iirc,wasn'ttheoneaboutasecretdealbeingmadetonotreleaseiranianhostagesuntilafterthe1980electionbasicallyallbut
confirmedbymultiplefolksontheinside?Couldbewrong.
UnlikemanyonReddit,Iwasactuallyalivethroughallofthat.I'mprettysurethat'sthecase,thoughI'mnotsureitwasever"officially"
confirmed.
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Notsomuchaconspiracy...TheIraniangovernmentjusthatedCartersomuchtheywantedtowaittoreleasethehostagesasamiddle
fingertohim.
Atleastthat'showmyhistoryprofessordescribedit
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[] jonestony710 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nothisisnottrue.Thefamous'OctoberSurprise'theorystatesthis,butinrealitythehostagetakerscould'vecaredlessaboutthe
electionotherthanwantingtoseeCarterlose.TheyviewedCarteraspartoftheGreatSatan,andwhenhelostinNovember,they
celebratedasiftheywereresponsible.TheyreleasedtheHostagesontheinaugurationasafinal'fuckyou'toCarter.
Reagansupportersliketosaythattheywereafraidofwhathewasgoingtodooncehetookoffice,butthat'snottrueeither.Itwasjust
thesimplefactthatthehostagetakershatedCarter,releasingthemoninaugurationdaywasaninsult.Thenegotiationshadalready
beeninplacetoreleasethemwaybeforetheelectionandwithoutanyReaganintervention.
Iwantedtobelievethistoo,butit'snotthetruth.
Source:IworkedonadocumentaryaboutthecrisiswhereweinterviewedsomeoftheIranianhostagetakers,inourresearchand
interviewstheytoldusthattheOctoberSurprisewasnottrue.ButIranContrawastotallyreal,andwayyshadier.
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[] thatgeekinit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iirc,theywereangrywithCarterforlettingtheShahfleetotheU.S.forsurgery.
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Itwasn'ta"fuckyou"toCarter,itwasacoincidencethathappenedtobetheaccumulationofanextraordinaryamountoflargely
unseenworkdonebytheCarteradministrationinthelastweeksofhispresidency.
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[] lurgar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ok,I'llask:What'sthenameofthedocyouworkedon?
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[] FuzzyGunNuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Couldsomeonelaythisoneoutindetailforme?I'veneverheardthismentionedbefore.
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[] daa5250 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imnoexpertonitbutibelievethetheory/storyisReaganhadadealinplacewithIranandthehostagetakerswherehegavethem
someequipment(someonesaidmissilesystemsabove)andthentheywouldreleasethehostageswhenhebecamepresidentto
makehimlookgood.ThehostageswerereleasedonthedayofReagansinauguration.IknowtheIranleaderandcertaininside
peoplehavecomeoutandsaidthedealdidtakeplace.IwouldlookintoitforyourselfbecauseIonlyvaguelyreadaboutitacouple
yearsago.
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Itmakesperfectsensetome...weren'ttheyreleasedthedaythatReaganwasinaugurated?
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[] KMartin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HistorychannelstatedIrandidtheyasafingerintheeyetothelastprez,beforeReagan.But,itwouldn'treallysurprisemethatit
happened.
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[] seeteethree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatdidnotrequireaconspiracyIranjustwantedtobelittleCarter.Theymadenobonesaboutit.
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[] CSMastermind undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noyou'recorrect.Thatoneisaconspiracybutnotatheory.
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[] shinyhappypanda undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yathat'sbeenconfirmed.
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[] Master_Of_Knowledge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Absolutelyfalse.
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[] senatorskeletor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weren'tthehostagesreleasedonthesamedayCarterleftoffice?
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Yeah.JustrememberthatthosehostageswereacombinationofdiplomatsandCIAofficersunderdiplomaticpassports.That
complainsagainstthem"TheyareCIAofficersattackingourgovernment."Giventhattheirgovernmentwasattacked,andthe
recentlydeclassifiedpapersshowthattheCIAledbyKermitRooseveltdidthisasafavortoBritishIntelligence.Well...morelike
POWsthanhostages,right?
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Thisonedefinitelyhappened.
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[] MagnifyingLens undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NixondefinitelysabotagedtheVietnampeacetalksforhisownpoliticalgain.AquickuseofTheGoogleMachine(tm)for"nixon
treason"willprovideplentyofreferences.
Astothesocalled"OctoberSurprise"in1980,wellpickyoursourceandpickyouroutcome:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory
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Yeah,thepartaboutthehostagesbeingreleasedthedayofhisinaugurationwasaconspiracytheoryforawhile.Thenitwasrevealed
hesoldthemmissilesystemstofunddruglordsincentralAmerica.What'sweirdishemusthavehadsomedealingswiththembefore
hewasinaugurated.
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[] Megatron_McLargeHuge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tofunddruglords
Thinkaboutthatforaminute.It'snotentirelycleartheIranmoneywenttotheContrasbecausetheContras,asyousay,were
sellingdrugsandfundingthemselves.
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Moneybuysinfluence.
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Sellingdrugsisaloteasierwhenthesecretpoliceorganizebringingitjntothecountryanddistributingit.
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[] JohnGillnitz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisn'tconspiracytheory.Thatishistory.
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Historyinvolvesconspiracy.Therewasactuallyaconspiracytolinktherealconspiraciesofhistorywithfakeconspiracies.That's
whymostpeoplethesedaysthinkofconspiraciesasaliensand9/11planswereholograms.Makesiteasiertodismissallthe
financialbackstabbinggoingon.Itworkedreallywell.
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True.TheAlexJonescrowdlikestotakeindividualexamplesandusethemtodescribetheeveryday.Avaccinegot
contaminatedonce?Allvaccinesmustbebad!Othergroupsdoittoo.I'mtoosleepytogoogleupwhatthislogicalfallacyis
called.
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Ihaven'twatchedanyAlexJones,butlogicalfallaciesgobothways.There'sactuallyaFOIAdocumentfromtheCIA
postKennedyAssassinationaboutworkingtodiscreditconspiracytheorists.
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[] Beaunes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
justcauseit'shistorydoesn'tmeanitwasn'taconspiracy.
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Ofcourse.ManyofthesamenamesinvolvedturnupintheIranContrascandalandtheinvasionofIraq.Truthisthereisa
shadowgovernmentofsortswithcommoninterestsintheUSandIran.Thatinterestismainlyoil.Someoftheirproxiesare
stillwritingOpEdsinmajornewspaperstoday.
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[] Bartleby1955 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OctoberSurprise
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prettymuchtheentiretyoftheReaganadministrationseemedtobeinvolvedinsomesortofweirdconspiracy
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That'sbecauseReagansAdministrationessentiallytriedtostartanewworldorderandbasicallyaccomplishedthatgoal
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[] my_third_throwaway_n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
reaganwasn'tpresidentbefore1980.
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[] T8ert0t undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'lltakeRhymeswithMyranContrafor$400,Alex.
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[] thestarsaresuns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
well,justlookatwhowasVP.
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[] overcompensates undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PhilDonahue?
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[] tobyps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JerryLewis?
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[] Honkadoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NoonegotthatBTTFref.
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[] rotll undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FormerCIAdirectorBush?Whatabouthisaccompliceandreplacementintraining,Dick??Therewasalotofbehindthe
sceneshenanigansandbackroomnegotiatingwiththatcrew...
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CheckoutTrevorMoore's"KittyHistory."HedropssomecrazyJFKassassinationtheorythatleadstotheelderBush's
presidency.
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Iwouldn'tbesurprised.TheBushfamilyhasalonghistoryofconspiringtodoanythingtothwartprogressive
efforts.HWBush'sfatherwaspartofarealconspiracytoassassinateFDRandcommitaque.
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[] SugarSnack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*coup
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Omgsh.Ijustwatchedsomedocumentarysnippetslikeamonthortwoagoabouthowthe
government/governmentofficialshadJFKkilled.Andhowhecouldn'thavebeenshotfromwherethelibrary
depositorybuildingwas...whenlookingatthevideosbecausethesideofhisheadthatsortofexplodeddidn't
matchup.Ohgeez.IknowIcompletelybutcheredthiscommentandexplanationbutIseriouslyhadmyfriggin
mindblown.Ihadnoideaaboutallthat!!Givememorestufftolookintoandresearchthisconspiracyon,ifyou
want.I'mnotabigconspiracytheoristbutdamn,thatoneblewmymind.Lol
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Whilethemagicbullettrajectoryreallystretchescredibility,thecartridgeusedactuallydoeshavea
reputationforwackyricochetsandtwistyterminalballistics.It'salsoaveryheavybullet,sopenetratingatie
knotandgoingonisn'toutofthequestion.Idon'tdoubttheshot,IjustthinkthatLHOmightnothavebeen
actingentirelyalone.
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HahahilarioushowIwasdownvoted.Thanksforexplainingthatabitmoreandmentioningthebullet.
IthinkI'llhavetogodowntothesixthfloormuseumsoonandlookatthingsagainsinceIhaven't
beeninyears.Iappreciateyourresponse!
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[] lukefive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThescaryconspiracytheorybehindBushduringhisVPyearswasthathehadaplanneddrilloncontinuityofpowerin
casethepresidentevergetsshot,scheduledforthedayafterthepresidentactuallygotshot.Hecancelleditwhen
Reagandidn'tdiethough.
Thatoneisagoodmixtureofrealityand/r/woahdude
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[] satsumaa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Coincidently,theyhadaterroristhijackingdrillplannedforthedayof9/11.
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[] 5yearsinthefuture undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeah.TheBush'stendtohaveinterestingtimingwiththings.
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[] lunartree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Interesting,whatdoyoumeanaboutaplanneddrill?I'dimagineanyVPhasgonethroughsomepreparationasto
howtomaintainstabilityinacrisis.Wasitaplantooverreachbeyondthat?
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whatdoyoumeanaboutaplanneddrill?
Like,theyhadplannedthenextdaytohaveBushactingaspresidentandpretendthatthepresidenthad
beenshot,andhewoundupgettingshotonthatday.Itwasn'tapublicpracticedrill,soitwasamazingly
coincidentalthatReaganwasshotandtheVPalreadyhadeverybodypreparedforhimtobetakingoverthe
nextdayanyway.
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[] Cgn38 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewholewhitehousewentnuts.Haigtriedtosellhewasincontrolwhilebeinginthemilitary.
Notcool.
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[] MrSheeple undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasnotinthemilitary.HewastheSecretaryofStateandthereasonhe"triedtosellhewasin
control"wasbecausehewas.BushwasawayfromWashington,Reaganwasinthehospital,andthe
twootherpeopleinthelineofsuccession(SpeakerofHouseandPresidentproTemporeofthe
Senate)wouldhavetoresignbeforeholdinganyconstitutionalauthority.
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[] putzarino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdorealizethatjustbecausebushwasn'tinWashingtondoesn'tmeanhecan'tbepartof
succession,right?
Shit,LBJwasswornin,onaplane,atLoveFieldinDallas.
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[] drewshaver undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetabout1953whenweinstigatedarevolutiontoreplaceIran'sdemocraticgovernmentwithamonarch(whowasourpuppet)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions
Knockyourselfout.
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[] Veganpuncher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sorry,mate.CIAfilesshowthattheywerejustassurprisedaseveryoneelsewhentheShahtookpower.TheUScertainlywasn't
opposedtotheidea,andwashappytoofferassistanceafterwards,but'we'neverhadanythingtodowithit.Itwasallinternal.
It'sanenduringconspiracytheorybecauseitwasaneventwhichbenefitedtheUSA,andithappenedduringtheColdWar.But
there'snosubstancetoit.
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[] thatG_evanP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wedidthisalotactually.Ifyoudotheresearch,itsactuallythemainreasonthatCastroandGuevaradecidedtomakeCubaa
communistnation.Theyrealizedthatnationswithmore"open"governmentsweremuchmorevulnerabletotheCIAandother
shadyUSorganizations.
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[] nate427 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsthecasewithallonepartysocialiststates,itstokeepcapitalistsfromcomingbackintopower.Lookatalmostevery
communistnationoftheworld:basicallyallofthemexceptCubawereinfiltratedandsabotagedbywesterncapitaliststates.
PeoplecriticiseStalinforpersecutingalloppositionforbeing"counterrevolutionaries",butifhehadn't,theUSSRwouldnthave
survivedpastthe1940sanditwouldvebecomethecapitalistshitholeitistodayevenearlier.
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[] thatG_evanP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thankyou.I'vetriedtodiscussthispointofviewwithpeoplebeforeandtheyactedlikeIwasapureredcommunist.I
didn'tsayIwasabigCastrosupporteroranything,justthatcommunismorsomethingresemblingitwasabouttheonly
choicehehadifheactuallywantedto"keep"hiscountry.Andhey,itworked.Notthattheydidn'tstruggle.butthefact
thathemanagedtomaintainacommunistcountrylessthan100milesfromtheUSisprettydamnimpressiveifyouask
me.
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UnderCastro,Cubadrasticallyimprovedworkingconditionsforlaborers,raiseditsliteracyratefrom60%to
99.7%,anddevelopedanincredibleuniversalhealthcaresystemthatgaveitainfantmortalityratelowerthanthe
US's.Despitebeingunderembargoandnothavinganyoftheadvantagesthatinternationaltradebrings,Cuba
modernizeditselftohavethefourthhighestHumanDevelopmentIndexinalloftheAmericas,onlybehindtheUS,
Canada,andChile.ItsalsotheonlycountryINTHEWORLDwithahighHDItobeenvironmentallysustainable.
Source:http://i.stack.imgur.com/8LN59.jpg
Joinusin/r/socialism!
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[] bigbluefungus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Joinusin/r/socialism
it'sfullofshitpostsandmemes..
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You'rerightthatitsfullofshitpostsandmemes,thatstheresultofsomerelativelyrecentmodturmoil.
Theres/r/communismand/r/socialism_101forstarters.Theresabunchofsubredditsin/r/socialism's
sidebar,butmostaren'tnearlyasactive/r/socialism./r/FULLCOMMUNISMisshitpostheaven.
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[] bigbluefungus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
alright,I'llcheckthemout.thanks
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[] unsubscribe__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UnderCastro,Cubaisactuallyprettygreat.
Nobodybelievesthatbullshit!Whatafool!
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[] DELTATKG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orjustalltheshitthathappenedinthemiddleeastduringthecoldwar.
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[] drewshaver undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nodoubt..Itwasreallysadscrollingthroughthetopcommentswhichweremostlyjokesorunimportantwhenthere'sdecades
ofeasypickingshere.
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yes.ithappened.irancontraollienorthetcweremoreorlessoffshootsofthis
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[] sadderdrunkermexican undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HahaIrememberreadingthatinmyapworldtextbookandhavingtostopandmarvalathowabsurdtheentiresituationwas.
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[] 0l01o1ol0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mysubmissionforthisthreadwouldbe"IthinktheydelibratelymadeIranContraanoverlyconvolutedschemesothatany
attemptstodescribeitwouldmakeyousoundlikeaconspiracynut"
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Thisactuallyhappens...Apoliticianinrecenttimes(thinksenator)hadhisstaffdispelarumoraboutsomecrazy
conspiratorialhomosexualscandalprecedingablackmailleakofhisactualextramaritalaffairsopeoplewouldquestion
thelegitimateleak
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[] MrWoohoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievegooglingfor"OctoberSurprise"willgetpeoplemoreinformation.
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[] Connectitall 331points
ThatHillaryandBillaremoneygrubbingscumbagswhowillkillpeopleandusefakecharitiestogetelectedandmakemoremoney
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[] RIPGeorgeHarrison undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whowillkillpeople
Whatareyoutalkingabout?
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benghazi
Hmph.Mustabeenthewind.
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Shedidnotkillthosepeople,notdidsheallowthemtodie,andIthinkitisdisgustingtoinsistotherwise.
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Intheretwentiestheyalsowentoverseastoworkforintelligenceagenciesandreportonprotests.
Also,Ididn'tinhale?True.Potbrownies.
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[] Richard_Nixon_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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GoogletheClintonBodyCount.
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Notaconspiracy.It'sthetruth.
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[] msx8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ics>ThatHillaryandBillaremoneygrubbingscumbagswhowillkillpeopleandusefakecharitiestogetelectedandmakemore
money
Icanmaybegetonboardwiththeideathatthey'remoneyhungryandscumbagsandhavetiestosomequestionablecharities,butkill
people?
Gonnahavetoaskforasourceonthatone,please.
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Dotheypersonallykillpeople?Probablynot.Dotheysighextrajudicialkillings?Nodoubt.
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[] Chuck_fox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'salinktoconservativedailyandfoxnewsandrepublicangunlove,allgreatarticles!
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[] rocko2466 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Apartfromkillpeople,you'recorrectandI'dliketointroduceyoutoAmericanpolitics.
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[] ameristraliacitizen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillClintonisasmoothtalkinghillbillywhoshouldbedeclaredemperoroftheUnitedStates
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[] Iamabioticgod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onefeelslikeaducksplashingaroundinallthiswet!Andwhenonefeelslikeaduck,oneishappy!
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[] _Hei_Bai_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Toooldtobeaducklingquackquack.
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[] BachStrad700 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sickreferencegame
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Um,that'snoconspiracy,it'scommonknowledge
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[] colovick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep,don'tfuckwiththeClintons.TheonlyreasonBarackdidn'thaveHilaryashisvpwashedidn'twanttoendupassassinated.At
leastwithherfurtherdownthechainshecan'tusurptherolewithoutcausinganunprecedentedlevelofturmoil.
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[] xhosSTylex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'vebeentiedtomurders,rapes,drugsandwhateverelseyoucanthinkof.Bill(allegedly)asGov.ofArkansas,usedtohangoutat
hisbrothersapartmentanddocokeandfuckunderagegirls.TherearemurderstiedwithWatergate,andeverythingelsethey'vebeen
involvedin.
Eachoneoftheseisarabbitholeinitself
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YesandtheBushfamilyisneckdeepintheconspiracyaboutaclubforwealthyandpowerfulpeoplethatfuckunderageboys...
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[] lasershurt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FactCheck.orgsaysthattheClintonFoundationactuallyuses89%ofitsmoneyforcharitablework,forwhatthat'sworth.
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89%'snottooshabby
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[] hithazel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sincrediblygood.Mostoftheplacesyou'veheardof(AmericanHeart,Cancer,etc)don'tevenbreak75%andplaceslike
WoundedWarriorProjectareunder60%.
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[] DasItMann undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"fakecharities"
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[] FreeRangeHumans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somoneygrubbingthattheyleaveofficewithabudgetsurplus.
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[] thedirtiestsocialist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkrobbingthetreasuryissomethingapresidentevenwouldhavetheopportunitytodo.Itjustdoesn'tworkthatway.
Doyouthinkhejustslipshisbankaccountnumberontoaspendingbillorsomething?
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Hedidn'tsaythey'restupid.Imean,ifapersonleavesofficewithabudgetsurplus,aren'ttheymorelikelytobegivenmoney/power
againinthefuture?
(I'mnotexactlyagreeingwiththe"conspiracy",justsayingthatiftheyreallyaremoneygrubbingscumbags,thelongconis
definitelythesmarteroption)
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[] CopenKagan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'snotgetaheadofourselves.ThebudgetsurpluswasduetoaSocialSecuritysurplus.Theyfunneledthattohelppayoffthe
nationaldebt.Hejustscrewedfutureus.
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[] patatemasquer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
atleasttheygivemoneyanit'suseful.That'sabigdifferencewiththeoneswhospeakalotanddon'tgiveanything.
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[] MikeAWBD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youforgotsellouttheirownpeopleandcountryaswell.
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[] Hedonistic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'scalledbeingapolitician.
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[] Owenleejoeking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Awinningpolitician
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Guessweneedtokillallpoliticians,then.
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[] Native_Pilot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyouaresayingeverypoliticianislikethat?
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[] Hedonistic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No.Onlythesuccessfulones.
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[] AlbastruDiavol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatscalledbeingedgy
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edgelordoverhere.
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Itisbothedgyteenagedangstfestandalsoaconditionalbiasmadeapparentbypoliticiansthatdoworkthisway.
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[] JagdPhoenix_13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Again,tobeedgyrequiresitbeanuncommon,sociallyfrowneduponview/statement.Usuallyitissupposedtohaveashock
value,andunexpected.
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[] Connectitall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andsheisoneoftheworstinhistory
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SorryabouttheHillaryInternetDefenseForcehit,dude.
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[] kernunnos77 940points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ElvisswappedplaceswithanimpersonatorandretiredtoanursinghomewhereheandanoldblackmanwithJFK'sbrain(they
swappedthemout)hadtosaveeveryonefromamummythatsuckedpeoples'soulsoutthroughtheirbuttholes.
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[] rebo2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisthis?
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[] kernunnos77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BubbaHoTep,areallyawesomemoviestarringBruceCampbell.
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[] RAWR_time undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HellyeahBubbaHoTep!
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[] daswef undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyDadalwaystellsmethatElvisactuallyworksataDunkinDonutsinKalamazoo,Michigan.
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[] SomeOtherGuysJunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lovedthismovie
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[] ChicoTC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifuckinglovethatmovie.Irecommendedtoacouplepeoplewhodidn'tgetit.SoIstoppedrecommendingit."Whatishe,somekind
BubbaHoTep?"
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[] The_Mad_Gasser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thissoundslikesomethingyoureadontheshithousewall.
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[] Nausea1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisonegetsmyupvote.B.Campbellforprez!
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[] Chaos20X6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
oldblackmanwithJFK'sbrain(theyswappedthemout)
HeactuallyisJFK,theydiedhimthatcolor.
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[] danwroy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Almost:JFKwasdyedblack,andhadhalfhisbrainremovedandreplacedwithabagofsand.
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[] Spacegostcoast2coast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gobacktosleep,BubbaHotepp
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[] Gvxhnbxdjj2456 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydidn'twelisten?!
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[] The_Chronox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
L0lsoooor4ndum!!1!!
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It'sareferencetoamovie
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[] gargantuancow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andtheboysalllaughedwhentheysawmybuttpluginthegymshowers!
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[] iflylikewilma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Best.Plot.Ever.
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[] donquixote1991 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thissoundslikeaf'edupDoctorWhoepisode
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BubbaHotep.It'sfantastic.
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Nah,itsoundslikearegulardoctorwhoepisode
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[] Sigaromanzia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TryBruceCampbellmovie
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[] rockinpossum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bubbahotep
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[] notavalid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItfeltlikeaScoobyDooepisode.
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[] isoundstrange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohit'sevenbetterthanthat.
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[] I_love_hate_reddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisoneistrueBTW.Theyhaveadocumentaryaboutitcalledbubbahotep
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[] HigherThanGiraffenex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThankyousogoddamnmuchthisisamoviethatIdefinitelyneededtoseeinmylife,Ienjoyedeverysecondofthat.
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Theopeningscenewherehe'stalkingaboutthegrowthonhispenisandhowlongit'sbeensincehe'suseditiswhathooked
me.
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[] combatchuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igottasay,IrespectthehellofoutBruce,butjesustittyfuckingchristthatwasabadmovie.
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[] cdc194 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Huh...that'sonebigbitchcockroach."
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AwesomeumentaryIthinkyoumean.
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[] a_bounced_czech undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amummysucksontheirbutt
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[] JehovahsHitlist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow,itremindsmeofthedocumentaryinwhichElviswastrappedinacabininthewoodsafterreadingfromabookofancientevil.
AlsoitticklesmethattheycensoredGodbutnotdamninthetrailer.
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[] Roadtoboulder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mworkingwithsandhere!
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[] Jonah_and_the_Quail undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isitworthwatching?I'vepassedoveritonNetlfixsomanytimes.ThatandSurfNazisMustDie
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yes,it'sfantastic.
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[] jblo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallyprettyamazing.
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[] sfrankdaddy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
oneofthegreatestdocumentariesofalltime.theyshowedittousinmyfilmclass
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[] crispsfordinner 1point
Iswearmostofthesereplieswerepostedwordforwordlastweekinathreadaskingthesamequestion
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theybasicallyare.I'veseenatleast5'obamaworksforthegovernment'postsinthisthread.
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[] neeshengboink 4393points
Ifeellikecop/detectivemoviesortvshowswherethekillerormurderergetscaughteverytimeisanattempttostopcrime.Thisway,
manypeoplewillthinktwicebeforecommittingacrimeduetothegraveconsequencesofwhat'sshownontv.
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[] Urgullibl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alternatively,movieswherethebadguygetsawayarebadforbusiness.
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Criminalmindsgivespeoplefullyautomaticlabelmachingunsdotheyjudgeeveryonearoundthenandmakethemsuspiciousand
distrustfulofeachother.
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IntheearlydaysofHollywood,J.EdgarHoover(formerDirectoroftheFBI,notedmegalomaniac)requiredexactlythis.Requiredisn't
anexaggeration,either.Ifyoudidn'tplayalong,theGmendidbadthings.
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[] BringOutTheImp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Backinthedays,thefilmswererequiredbythecensorboardtoshowthattheculpritwascaught(likeinHitchcock'sVERTIGO,for
example)Also,peopleusuallyliketoseejusticebeingservedthesamewayahappyHollywoodendingismorepalatabletomost
audiencesthanadepressingone.
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[] Dert_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,inrealitythereisasurprisingamountofmurderersthatnevergetcaught.
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[] totallysunkdude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasjusthavingthisdiscussionwithacoworkerwhowastalkingaboutacavemanmurdermysteryshowandhowandwhyarethey
speculatingonacrimethathappenedtensofrhousands.ofyearsago.Isaidit'sprobablyaconspiracytomakeyouthinkthatevenifit
takes10000yearsyou'llnevergetawaywithit
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[] bateller undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreewiththis.Ithinkitalsoextendsintoaskingforalawyer.Mosttvshowsshowinterrogationsandscriptitthatpeoplewhoaskfor
alawyer"havesomethingtohide."Wheninrealityyoushouldneverspeakinaninterrogationroomwithoutalawyerregardlessofyour
guilt.Andaskingforalawyerisaverynormalandreasonablethingtodo.
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[] gambalore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UndertheoldHaysCodeinHollywood,thiswasanexplicitlystatedthing,wherecriminalshadtobeshowngettingtheirjustdesserts
andcouldn'tbeseenasgettingawayscotfree.Thecodedoesn'texistanymorebutthatnarrativeformulahasdefinitelypersistedin
mainstreamstorytelling.
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andalsowhyhusbandsandwiveswhocommitadulteryontelevisionormoviesusuallygetcaught.
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probablynoonewillseethisbutoldEgyptiancrimemovieswererequiredbythelawtoshowthatthebadguyswerecaughteventually
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forthisexactreason.
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[] StarryAx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'targuewiththis
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[] AltHypo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Copshowsfeaturethepolicebreakingthelawtocatchthebadguybutit'salwaysokaybecausetheirtargetalwaysreallyisthe
criminal.Intherealworldcopsdon'tknowforsureiftheirtargetisreallythecriminalthey'reafter,andIfeelthatthismediaportrayal
manufacturesconsentbygivingtheimpressionthatitisokayforcopstobreakthelawinpursuitofacriminal.
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[] fleastyler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiswasactuallyatopicduringamediastudiescourseIdid:theideawasbasicallythatpoliceshowsreinforcetheideaofthemoral
good,whichinturncanlowercrimeratesbecauseoftheimpressionthatgoodalwayswinswhichhappensbecausesomuchof
societyisaffectedbythemedia(film,TV,etc)thatweconsume.Whethertheshowsarepurposelydesignedtodothisornotisanother
questionentirely.
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[] SIlentguardian11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhythefirst48issocool.PlussomerealityTVcopshows.SWATDallasetc
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[] Nihiliste undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vealwayswonderediftherewasn'tsomesubtlepropagandamotive.Iactuallydoubtit,butitprobablyhasapropagandalikeeffect,if
nothingelse.
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[] diamond undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therecouldbesomethingtothis.TVandmovieshavebeenusedforsocialengineeringbeforetogreateffect.Thepopularityof
"designateddrivers"islargelytheresultofadeliberatecampaigntoinserttheconceptintothepublicconsciousnessthroughrepeated
mentionsinTVshowsandmovies.Iwouldbeverysurprisedifpeopledidn'ttakenoticeofthatandaredoingsomethingsimilartoday
withoneormoreotherdesired"memes".
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AndthoseNarratedCopChaseTVshowswherethecopsalwaysgettheirmanwhoisalways"guilty"forbeingchased,andfully
responsibleforthehazardouschase,andalwaysfacesjusticebygoingtojailwhereheinevitably"belongs".
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[] VeganJerky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveneverseenanepisodeofCOPSwherethecriminalgetsaway.Iguessthere'snopointtryingtorun.
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[] diznila undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vealwayssuspectedthisaswell.IrememberreadingthatinPhiladelphia,somethinglike50%ofmurderswereunsolved.Mostof
thosewererelatedtodrugs/innercityviolence,butstill.
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[] shadowpsyc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notjustathingwithpeoplegettinglegallypunished,fictionalstoriesusuallytrytoportraysomekindofkarmawhere"badpeople"get
what'scomingtothemwaymorereliablythantheydointherealworld.Meanwhilethetoplayerofourrealsocietyisinundatedwith
sociopaths
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[] diznila undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vealwayssuspectedthisaswell.IrememberwhenIlivedinPhiladelphia,somethinglike50%ofmurderswentunsolved.Mostof
thosewererelatedtodrugs/innercityviolence,butstill,thatblewmymind.
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Probably.Imean,lookattheamountofunsolvedmurders.Someonejustkillsapersonanddumpstheirbodyandnevergetscaught.
Hell,Ijustsawanewsreportyesterdaywhereagirl'sbodywasfoundlessthan2kmoutsideofthecityandhadbeenthereforupto5
years.Nobodyhasanyideawhodidit.It'sprobablybeenfartoolongsinceitoccurredtogathermuchevidence.Howdidacorpsesit
inafieldjustoutsideofacityfor5yearsandgounnoticed?Imaginewhatcouldhappeninthemiddleofnowhere.
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[] ieatglue44 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,it'smoretonormalizehyperinvolvedlawenforcementandtheprisonindustrialcomplex.
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[] PMMEYOUR_LABIA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisadocumentaryonthat.CenturyoftheSelf:ThereisaPolicemaninYourHead
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[] hibob2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holdingthegunsidewayswas"suggested"bypolicetoTVandmoviedirectorsbypoliceinordertomakereallifecriminalslesslikely
toshootstraight.
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[] blu3s undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheshowCopstaughtmetoneverrunfromthepolice.
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[] booya666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sjustpartofamassiveconspiracywhereforallofrecordedhistorypeoplehavetendedtomakestorieswheredoinggoodis
rewardedanddoingbadispunished.
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[] test_beta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'scertainlythecaseforCOPSandwildestpolicevideosandthosekindsofshows.You'llrarely/neverseeavideoofsomeone
outrunningthecopsorgettingaway.
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[] ZippityD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomethingclosetothathappensinCanada.
WehadaBorderSecurityshowonsomeblistchannel,wheretheyalwayscatchpeopleandjustfollowaroundsecuritythroughtheir
interviews.Itwasn'tpullingenoughratings,butthegovernmentdecidetostepintofundtheshowbecauseitwasgoodforPRand
securityperception.
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[] wtbkayak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnyonewhotriestowithholdinformationduetoprofessionalethicsonLawandOrderisportrayedinabadlight.Eitherasafool,oras
someonewithsomethingtohide.Andtheyalwayscaveafteraflimsythreat(whichusuallyinvolvesexposingtheirownminorcriminal
wrongdoing).Lawyersareactuallytheexceptiontothis(mostofthetime),butanydoctorsormentalhealthprofessionalsrolloverand
sellouttheirpatientsatthedropofahat.
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Thismightbeachicken/eggthing.
Ithinkthey'repopularbecausepeoplewanttobelieveinanorderlysocietywherepeoplewhoviolatethesocialcontractarepunished.
We'reessentiallyallbuyingintothesamedeal,believingthesamething.Ifsomeonewantstogorogueandcutthequeueorotherwise
cheat,thenfuckthatguy.It'sbasicallythegroundworkforallhumandevelopment
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[] kkwalker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notonlythat,butshowingtheagencyinagoodlightletspeoplethinktheCIAusesgooddetectiveworktocatchbadguys,andnot
algorithmssearchingthroughallourphonecallsfortheirvoice.
Italsoprobablyhelpswiththeirapplicationnumbers,too.Copdramasarebasicallyfreeadvertising
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I'mnotevensure"ferenzicks"isreal....howeverthatisspelled
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....thenagainpeoplearealwaysstealingtvs
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[] FormalChicken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Except(spoileralert)Dexter.FuckinghellIwasexpectingalongdrawnonsequenceofhimgettingcaughtandarrested.Insteadhe's
free?Theonlythinghelostwashisson(whichhewasforcedtocarabout)andawoman.
BasicallytheyplayedintotheAmericanmindsetoffascinationofserialkillersandsetthemuptobefreeattheendafterabodycount
probablyinthetripledigits.
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Similarly,Ithinktheportrayalofgangstersholdingtheirgunssidewaysisanattempttomakereallifegangstersholdtheirgunlikethis,
hinderingtheiraccuracy.
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[] Kl3rik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veheardsomethinglikeifthecrimeisn'tsolvedthethefirst48hours,thechanceofyoubeingcaughtdropsprettysignificantly.
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[] Furiou519 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItismorelikethejokefromSuperbadthe'criminalsdon'tcumeverywhere'one.Whileitisafactthatyoualwaysleavetraceevidence
atacrimesceneitisnottruethattheinvestigatorsalwaysfinditoriftheydothattheyknowitissomethingimportant.
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[] Gargantuan_Dong undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SamewiththeshowCops.Theynevershowwhenthecriminalsgetawaywhichtheydosometimes.
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[] TheDrunkenChud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Topiggybackonthis,Ifeelliketheseshowsconditionpeopletoempowerpolicetocircumventindividualrightsinthenameofjustice.
Peoplerootforthecopthatjustbeatawitness,orcommittedafelonytogetakeypieceofevidence.Itangersme.
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[] GhostofPacman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veactuallyconsideredthisonemyself.
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[] igottashare undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveit'salsoinstrumentalingettingthegeneralpublicusedtopoliceabusesofpower.Morethan1/3ofhomicidesarenever
solved.
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[] Smauler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onethingthatbugsmeiswhentheentireshowistwohoursofdetectivework,andthen5minutesfromtheendthekillerdoes
somethingstupidandrevealsthemselvesanyway.
Therewasnopointinthe2hours,thelast5minuteswouldhavehappenedthesameifthedetectivesateatingdoughnutsfortheentire
show.
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Maybeyes,maybeno.Ontheonehand,theyoftenshowalevelofabilitytoprocessevidencethatdoesn'texistintherealworld
alongsideamassivearrayofrightsviolationsinhowthesuspectsaretreatedintherealworld,they'dnothavetheevidence,andeven
iftheydid,manyofthosecaseswouldbetossedoutforblatantabuses(someshowsbeingworsethanothersofcourse).Somaybeif
peoplethinkthatthosethingsarepossibleandlawful,thentheymightbetooscaredtoattempttocommitacrimebecausesurelythey
willgetcaught.Ontheotherhand,personallyIfindthatwatchingthosetelevisionshowsisawonderfulintellectualexerciseformein
devisingplotstocommitcrimesinwhichIwouldnevergetcaught.Frankly,whileI'mnotinclinedtobringthosenotionsintoreality,I'm
surpriseditdoesn'tgiveless...lawabiding...peopleideasabouthowtogetawaywiththeirnefariousplots.
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TheshowCopsnevershowspeoplegettingawayforthisreason
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[] vetruvian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowdoyouexplainDexter?
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[] raymond8505 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitslessthegraveconsequencesandmoreaboutgivingtheappearancethatpolicearenearomniscientintheirabilitytosolve
crime
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IthinkthebestexampleofthisistheMythbustersradargunepisode.ThewholetimeIwaswatchingitmyonlythoughtwasthatifthey
actuallyfoundonethepolicewouldneverinamillionyearsletthemairit.
Thewholeepisodeplayedoutlikeaschoolassemblyfor6thgraders."Youcan'tever,everbeatthepolicekids,sodon'teventry"
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[] Meatgortex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenumberofunsolvedbiggercrimesiskindofamazing.Thenumberofmultipleinjury/deathshootingsthisyearwithoutaresolution
isasurprise:http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
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[] prodmerc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sSOMANYOFTHEM!Ifit'snotadeliberateconspiracy,I'mstillsuretheyshapeoursocietalconsciousnessintonotcommitting
crimes(oryou'refucked)andrespecting/fearingauthority.
Alsoinformingsupercriminalsthatdonotgetcaught,kindalikeantibacterialagentshelpformsuperbacteria:)
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[] jay_frank_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouneverseeanepisodeofCopswherethecriminalrunsandgetsaway
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Ihateitwhentheyinjectpoliticsintopoliceproceduralsforareason."Wowwecouldtotallycatchthisclearbadguyifthejusticesystem
wasn'tbrokenandwecouldskipthefourthamendmentwhenit'sinconvenient!".Yeah,okay,cool...toobadrealityisabitmore
nuancedthanaTVshow.
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[] something111111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwouldbefunnyiftherewasashowcalledCRIMINALSwhichwasjustabunchofpeopleescapingthelawwithlike1in1000getting
caught.
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[] WolfBiedermanRocks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheoriginalItalianjobfilmismeanttodrawattentiontothis.Everythingisgoinggreatuntilthelastsecondandthenleftopenisonlyto
satisfycensorshiplaw.Althoughitisjustarumour.
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[] Ar3s701 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfeelthesamewayaboutJapanesepornandHentai.Theyglorify"bareback"sexandpromotetheideathatthereare"safedays"to
spreadmisconceptionaboutbirthcontrolinordertocombatdecliningbirthrates.
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[] TotalTool93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WHATSSSintheeboxxx
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[] RedditorsRStupid101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaysthoughtitwasbecauseit'saneasyplotdeviceforlazywriters,andbecauseAmericansareobsessedwithviolenceand
depravity.Let'shaveourleadcharacterworkwiththeFBI/Police/CIS/MIBandsolveanewcrimeineveryepisode!We'lljustfeaturea
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newserialkillereveryweek.That'sbasicallytheplotofhalfofallshowsonTVrightnow.
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[] nickiter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialsothinkthattheconstantglorificationofcopswhodon'tplaybytherulesisatleastinpartanattempttoreinforcesupportforpolice
whomisbehaveintherealworld.
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[] Pistol_Pete_94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itmaypreventsomepettycriminals.Butitbringsoutthegeniusesforthebigheists.
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[] TheDancingRobot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveallthoselowbrowcopdramasshowthesuspectsadmittingtothecrimeswhiletalkingtoourheroes(almosteverydamn
episodesource:mymotherbingewatchesBONESandthelogicisandwritingarebothpatheticothersarethesameway).
Despitetheprotagonistssomehowpullingadmissionsoutofthesuspects,thecutandpastescriptssubtlysuggeststopeopletonever
say,"Iwantmylawyer"andthatitisnormaltospeakfreelyinfrontof"policeofficers".
Thereisabsolutelynothingyoucansaytoapoliceofficerthatwilleverbenefityouinacourtoflaw.
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[] Soperos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavethistheorytoo.
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[] Xamont undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthisalsoholdstruefortheshowCops.Constantlyseeingstopsturnintobustsandcopsbreakingintoanywhereandeverywhere
tofoilthe"badguys"setsupapersistentpsychologicalperceptionthatdoingsomethingillegal=busted.It'sgreattowatchbutitalso
fuelstheparanoiainthebackbrain.
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[] bruhbroh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcourseitiswhenitcomestothosecoprealityshows.Theycanpickandchoosetheclipstheywanttoplaysowhywouldtheyshow
themselvesinabadlight.Theywanttoenforcethe"badguyswillgetcaught"theme.Iwouldn'tevensayitsaconspiracy,justsortof
commonsense.
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[] jcoguy33 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybepeoplewatchitbecauseit'sentertaining.
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[] IAmBroom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notpreciselytrue,butthereareinstances.
Forinstance,it'samainstayofeveryTVshowandmoviethatyourcallcan'tbetrackedunlessyoustayonthecallacertainnumberof
seconds...Technicallytrue,butthatnumberis0.001seconds.
Anotherwasthe"gangsta"styleofholdingapistolsidewaystoshoot,lookingcool.ThatwasagimmickinventedbythemovieMenace
IISociety,andcooptedbystreetthugidiots...thusreducingtheiraimingabilityslightly.(Therearevariousidiotictheoriesontheinternet
whythismightbe"better"thanthestandardgrip,butI'llsimplynotenoweaponsinstructorintheentireworldadvocatesit.)
Shootingalockoffisagoodwaytogetinjuredfrombulletshrapnel,aswellasmakingsurethelockwillneveropenagain.Intests,
nothingshortofashotgunopeneddoorlocks.Theshotgunmanageditbyremovingthewoodholdingthelockinplace...soitdidn't
actuallybreakthelock,either.
Mostofthesearejustconvenienttropes,buttheydoserveanadditionalbonusofconvincinginexperiencedhoodlumstodosomething
extrastupidwhilecommittingtheircrimes.Isitaconspiracyifeveryonewithabrainisinonit,andeveryonebenefits?Ithinkso.
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[] stringerbell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mawriter/directorandthisisactuallytrue(but,notinthewayyouthink).
HollywoodiscontrolledbyJews,whereastheUSpopulationiscontrolledbyChristians.So,everymovieortvshowhastobe
acceptabletoboth.So,theironlyoptionistohaveeverythingfollowaJudeoChristianbeliefsystem.And,thatsystemsays
crime/murderiswrongso,everybadguyhastobepunished.
Onasidenote,italsosaysthatpremaritalsexiswrongandwhogetskilledatthestartofeveryhorrorfilm,thecouplehavingsex,or
thenicegirlreadingabook?
So,youknowthat,ifthemaincharacter'sanasshole/antihero,he'llprobablysacrificehimselftosavethegirlattheend.Ifhe'sagood
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guyrightoffthebat,ifthefirstsceneishimsavingananimal,helpinganoldwoman,orslappinganassholewhodeservesithe'lllive
attheend.But,ifthatsceneishimstealingsomethingandkillinganinnocentperson,youknowthathe'lldie.
Because,that'swhattheBible/Torahsaysissupposedtohappen...
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[] inyourface_milwaukee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bankrobberyespecially.Youdontheartoomuchaboutthemandneverhearhowmuchtheygetawaywith.Itspublicrecordforthe
mostpartbuttakesefforttodigup.
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[] CallMeStark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SowouldashowlikeDexterorBreakingBadcauseanoppositeeffect?
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[] Corinthos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YourarelyseenthosepeoplegetawayonthosecopchaseshowsoronCops.Inthemid90smyfriendsandIthoughtwewerehotshit
causeweoutrancopsnumeroustimes.
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[] onetrickwolf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahinrealitysomethinglikemorethan50%ofallmurdersareunsolvedI'veheard(andthisdoesn'tcountprobablyalotofcasesnot
ruledasmurders).Ifyouthinkaboutit,it'sactuallyprobablyprettyeasytogetawaywithmurderifyouplanitproperlyIbet.ButIbet
mostcriminalsdon'tgetthatfarsimplyfromthestressofthinkingit'seasytogetcaught.
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[] ZDTreefur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Naw,wejustlikeagoodevilisovercomestory.Wehaveforthousandsofyears.Wewouldtellstoriesofjusticearoundacampfire.
Hardlyanythingnew.
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[] newtbutts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyfuckingtimethebadguystartsrunninghismouthandbragsaboutitinsteadofshuttingthefuckupandaskingforalawyer.They
canneverprovehedidittillhestartsblabbing
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[] flowgod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myproblemisthattheseshowsandmoviesgivepeopleafalsesenseofrealityaboutthings.Peoplethinkthatthecopsaregoingto
catcheveryonethatcommitsacrime,andcomplaintonoendwhentheydon't.
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[] Sleepy_time_wit_taco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InMissouritherateatwhichtheycatchmurdersisabout52%whichmeansyoucouldkillsomeone,flipacoinandgetaprettyaccurate
simulationofifyouwillbecaughtornot
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[] cakeandbeer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiswasactuallyenforcedinHollywoodmoviesinthe1930sbytheHaysCode.Wikipedia:
Allcriminalactionhadtobepunished,andneitherthecrimenorthecriminalcouldelicitsympathyfromtheaudience.
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[] Arancaytar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,youdon'treallyneedaconspiracytheorytoexplainwhyshowsthathavegoodguysandbadguystendtoendwithgoodwinning.
Here'sanalternateone,though:Thoseshowssurehavealotofoccasionswherethegoodguysarecompletelyjustifiedin
oversteppingboundaries,flauntingprocedureorviolatingsuspectrights...
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[] avysavy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
coughHowtoGetAwaywithMurdercough
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[] wmc1982 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orlikeon"COPS"whereprettymucheveryonegetscaught.
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[] ladymischief undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ithinkcop/detectivetvshows/moviesseriouslyunderplaytheleveloftechnologythatisaffordableandaccessibletoeverydaylaw
enforcement.thiswaypeopleunderestimatethepolice'sabilitytocatchyou.
example:theySTILLusetheconceptthatyouhavetostayonthelinefor30secondsinorderforthecalltobetraced.eventogetbasic
informationaboutthelineusedtoplacethecall.calleridhasbeeninstantsinceiwasakid.iamtechnostupidsoicouldbewrong,but
idoubtevenacellphonecallwouldtakethatlongtotrace.onlycaseicanseemoretimebeingneededisifacallhasbeen
programmedto'bounce'aroundorotherwisemakeituntraceable.
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[] RoseCitysFinest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaveyouseenFirst48?I'velearnedifyoujustkeepyourmouthshut,you'llprobablygetawaywithit
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[] RoseCitysFinest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaveyouseenFirst48?I'velearnedifyoujustkeepyourmouthshut,you'llprobablygetawaywithit
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[] goodbetterben undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsotherampanttramplingofrightsbycopsontheseshows(withoutanyconsequences)isdesignedtomakeusmorelikelytoforgoe
ourrightsIRL."WellweCOULDgetawarrant,orwecouldjusthangouthere,smashupyourbusinessandscareawayyourcustomers
allday...".JustonceIwouldliketoseeacopshowwheretheygettherightperp,anditgetstossedbecauseofallthebullshitthecops
pulledwhilegatheringtheevidence.
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[] Lockjaw7130 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sreallyjustratings.NobodywantstowatchanepisideofRealShitwherethecopstryforhalfanhourandthenthecreditsrollwithout
aconclusion.
Thinkaboutit,thegovernmentdoesn'tneedtopayHollywoodasanincentive.Realcasesdon'tsell.
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[] ctrlaltelite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sanactualpolicyinChina.They'vegotalonglistofthingsyoucan'tshowandI'veheardofthembanninganythingthatdepicts
criminalsevadingthepolice.Attheveryleast,theyareknowntolimitthegenretokeeptherefrombeingtoomanycrimedramasonat
once.
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[] Second_Foundationeer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldsayit'smorepropagandatomakeitokayforpoliceofficerstocircumventthelaw.Afterall,ifwewatchtvshowsabouthow
greatitisforpoliceofficerswhoknowwhothecriminalsarebutarestoppedbybadol'government,we'llslowlyadoptthatattitudeof
"meh,warrantshmarrant,let'sjustwalkthroughdoorsandplantevidenceonthatmobboss".
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[] this_isnt_happening undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasreadingaboutthisjusttheotherday.Maybeit'snotintentionalonthepartofTVproducers,butthebiggestdeterrentofcrimeis
theperceptionthatyouarelikelytobecaught.Muchbiggerthanpossiblepunishmentservesasadeterrent.
Sobasically,ifyouhaveonetownwithamandatorytenyearprisonsentenceforanycrimebutapatchypoliceforce,thattown'sfar
morelikelytohavehighcrimeratesthananothertownwithacoponeverycorner.Evenifsentencesarelighterand90%ofpeople
caughtdon'tservetimeatall.
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[] Rinychib undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Crimeshowshavetaughtmenevertoleavesemenatthecrime.Semenputspeoplebehindbars
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[] Come_On_Nikki undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
We'resupposedtoseethecopsasthegoodguys,soeverytimethe'badguy'asksforalawyerthecopactinglikethatisasignofguilt
istogetustothinkaskingforalawyerisabadthingandtojusttalktothecops.
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[] clomjompsonjim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisprettymuchtrue.I'mstudyingcrimedramafortestanalysistheyareverymuchwrittentoreflectdominantvaluesofsociety.
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Differentstyleshavebeenpopularthroughouthistorybecauseofthis.ShowslikeCSIandcourtroomdramasshowthepowerofthe
law,andhowlawalwaysreflectsmoralgoodnessandALWAYScatchesthecriminal.SmalltowndramaslikeMidsomerMurdersare
morefocusedonthesmalltownmoralitywherethedisruption(crime)signifiesthemoralbankruptcyoflargersocietythatsmalltown
valuesareopposedtonocriminalcandisruptthemoraloasis.Thenyouhaveshowswiththeroguedetectivewhogoesagainstthe
corruptionofgovernmentandlawenforcementtocatchthebaddie.Theyallappealtodifferentdemographics,buttheultimateideaisto
saythatthebadguyneverwins.
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[] Tristan79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiskindoftrue.
FilmandTVendorsethevaluesofsocietyforthemostpartbecauseitmakespeoplefeelgoodaboutlivingbytherulesofsociety.We
getavicariousthrillbywatchingagangsterorcriminaldoingthingswewouldn't,butwewanttoseethemgetpenaltiesfortheir
behaviortoreaffirmourlifechoices.
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[] morris1022 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhylawandorderwasandalwayswillbethegreatestcrimeshowofalltime:sometimes,alotofthetime,thebadguysgot
awayorwonincourt
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[] perianderson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExceptforDexter.
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[] qscuh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dexter
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[] reversewolverine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sliterallyaseriesofshowscalled"LawandOrder"
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[] 7yyi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobefair,usuallysomeonegetscaughtandimprisoned...itjusthappenstobethewrongpersonandtheycouldn'taffordadecent
lawyer.
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I'mprettysureit'smorebecausepeopleliketheirprotagoniststosucceedmoreoftenthanfail.
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[] coachlasso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bythesametoken,howmanyshowsdoyouseewheresuspectgetsarrested,saystheywantlawyer,copsays"you'renotgettinga
lawyer,you'regettinglockedupinaboxuntilyoutellmethetruth"orsomebullshitlikethat?Notlikeit'stramplingonMirandaor
anything,butmightbedonesosuspectsdon'taskforlawyers/realizeit'saright.
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OhmanIhadthissamefeeling.Untilmy$2000macbookandiPadgotstolenandevenwithallthedatatracking,"findmyiPhone",
serialnumbersandevidenceleftatthecrimescenetheygotawayscotfree,thepolicedidn'tgiveashitandbeinguninsuredlikean
idiotIlostbigtime.
Crimeisfuckingeasyifsomecrackheadandpullitoff.
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[] MensaIsBoring undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Perhapsyourmistakewasinspendingsomuchonacomputer.Applemarketingandpeerpressurecreatedthewantinyouforthat
computer.Amuchcheaperonewouldhavesufficed.
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Jesus,evenmakingquickcommentsonRedditIcan'tgetpastApplehate.You'rejustlikethefandroidsthatgimmeshitifI
getoutmyiPhonetoshowthemavideo.
I'veownedWindowsmachinesfor15years,fromthecheaptothesublimebutI'veneverhadalaptoporcomputerworkas
goodasmy15"retinapro.OSXblowsWindowsoutofthewater,itnevercrashes,isfastashellandasIamamusicianfor
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myworkit'sthebestthingaround.Garageband,Audacity,Sibelius7,CubaseandusingmyNovationLaunchpadwithLIVE9
isamazing.
Yea,itsexpensivebutthatsbecauseit'sworthowning.Apple'scustomerserviceisamazing,thewarrantiesaregreat,Ican
getitservicedintowninthetimeittakestogetacoffeeopposedtoshippingitbacktotaiwan.AlsowhenIamdonewithit,it's
STILLworthmoneyonebayandIgetmostofitback..
Sofuckyourself,whocareswhatacompletestrangerusesforacomputer.Formeacheaperonewouldnothavesufficed.
FYI,IneversawasingleMacbookadvertthatswayedmetogetone.WorkingonthefieldwithmyshittyToshibaand
borrowingothermusiciansMacbookssoldme.
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CrimePays.
Hearmeout.Theysaycrimeistheeasywayout.Obviouslyitrequireslesslifeskillsandintelligencethangettingacollege
educationandworkingajob.
So...doesntthatmeanthatthepeoplewhoarecommittingcrimebynaturearelesstenacious,hardworkingand/orsmartthanthose
ofustryingtoworka95?
Sologicallyspeaking,iflazypeoplewhogiveupeasilyaredoingit,thenitmustpayoffmoreoftenandeasierthansay....learningto
beanelectricianorajavadeveloper.
TLDR:CrimePays.
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Talkingtothepolicewomanwhosussedmyhouseafterthebreakin.
Iftheassholegetcaughthedoes6monthstime,thenisfreetodoitagain.Tothemits6monthsfreerentandfood.Onceout,
hitupanotherhouseorcarandifyougetcaught"ahwell"andbackthroughthesystem.Theyarelowlifescumanywaysso
havenothingtolosefromjailtime,sofucked.
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[] alrevsharptonbitchas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Happenedtomenewyearsday.DudewasliterallyInfrontofthecops.Itwasringingandcopcouldn'tsearchhimso...'Sorrybuddy'
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[] GiveAlexAUsername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
but,isntthatprobablecause?Uggggg
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Youcangetinsuranceonelectronics?Orareyoutalkingabouttheinsurancetheyofferwhenyoupurchaseit?...orrenters
insurance?
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[] abhikavi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Renter'sinsuranceifyoudon'townyourownhouse(itusuallyprotectsyourvaluablesifyou'retraveling,too),orhomeowner's
ifyouown.
AndasaquickPSA,ifyoutakeafewphotographsofthevaluablestuffyouown&backthemuptothecloud,that'san
immensehelpforinsuranceclaimsincaseyoueverdohavestuffstolen.
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Thankyouforclearingthatup
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[] PM_DEM_bOObys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthat'sreallythething.Everybodyfeelslikeanidiotforpayingforinsurance(orevenextrainsurance),untiltheyfuckingneedit.
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yeahIfeltlikeanidiotgettingmyiPadstolenbut$175toreplaceitwasadropinthebuckettofullprice.
Ihadacoworkeroncetellmethatifsomeonetriedtostealhisphoneonthetrainhe'dliterallyriskhislifetryingtogetitback.
I'mlikeyeahnoI'dratherworkadayortwoextratopaythedeductible
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[] ISBUchild undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Insurancecanonlyspreadthecostofcrimearound(withsomeaddedoverheadcosts)Itisstillthedutyofpolicetodeterand
investigatecrime,andweknowthattherealityisthattheywillusuallynevergetyourthingsback.
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[] JamesR624 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.It'snottheuser'sfaultthatourpoliceforceinAmericaisacompletefarce.
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Putstrongbiospasswordsonyourequipmentsoreusingitishardforthethiefandtheresellvalueiswaylower.Alsojustdon't
generallyleaveyouritemsvulnerabletotheft,especiallyiftheycostalotofmoney.
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Yuppasswords,lockedremotelyanditwasinmyhouseinmyroom.Theysmashedtheirwayinandtookwhattheywanted,
outormyhands!
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[] aliceoutofwonderland undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wheredoyoulive?Needtomakeamentalnotenottomovethere.
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[] TyrosineJim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inahousesomewhere,Burglaryhappensworldwide
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[] 5T1GM4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BIOSPasswordsareworthlessoncetheyhavetimealonewiththecomputer,justremovethedimebatteryfor10seconds.
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[] finmoore3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Newerlaptopsareabletooverridethis"trick"
Source:Iusedtoresellusedlaptops.
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[] TyrosineJim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotthattheyoverridethe"trick"itisjustafeaturethatthepassworddoesnotgetresetifthebatterygoes
dead.ThereisaCMOSjumperonthemotherboardthatistherespecificallyforresetingthepassword.Ifyou
physicallyhaveaccesstothedeviceyouownit,passwordsdon'tmatter.
Bestyoucandoisencryptyourharddrive,sothedataonitissafe
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[] skalra63 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"resell"iestealandresell?
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[] Le_Cookie_Monstre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyidiotcanstealsomething.However,toevenmakehalfyourlivingoutofityouhavetodoitallthetime.Yourchancesofbeing
caughteventuallyarehugeevenifyou'regoodatwhatyoudo.
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[] Ultima_RatioRegum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly...thepoliceonlyhavetogetluckyonce,butyouhavetogetluckyeverytime.
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[] CookiesRiot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallyeasierforrandomhomelessdruggiesthanforpeoplewithattachmentsandlotsofidentifiablepropertylikeacartodrive
awayin.
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Andnothingtolose.
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[] Roller_ball undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Showsfocusontheprotagonist.Ifitfocusesonthecriminals,theyusuallygetoffmostlyfree.TheSopranosshowedthemconstantly
murderinginbroaddaylightwithveryfewrepercussions.ThingslikePulpFictionmakeitseemliketherearealmostnocopsanywhere.
InWeeds,Nancygetsintroubleforatinyfractionofthecrimesshecommits.ThenthereisDexter,buthewasonestepaheadbecause
hedidforensicsorsomebullshit.
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[] old_dig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nostopit.Redditlikesitwhentheycanblamethegovernmentforinfluencingeverythingintheirlivessotheydon'tneedtotake
personalresponsibilityforfailure.
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Whothefucksaidanythingaboutresponsibility?
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[] densestport undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IcanonlyspeakfortheshowsIhavewatchedbutIhaveyettoseeashowwherethecriminalprotagonist"wins".Theyeitherdieor
endupinjail.
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[] Dwightasaurus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sopranos??????
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[] jackrabbit5lim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theshowwherethemainguygetskilledintheend?
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Nobodyknows...
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[] jackrabbit5lim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkatthispointitsprettymuchaguaranteethat'showtheshowends.
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Andstill.Idon'tstopbelieving...
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[] littleyohead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dyingcanbewinning.
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[] bollvirtuoso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LeverageorWhiteCollar,maybe?Almostallheistshows/filmshavethebadguygettingawaywithit.
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[] hadapurpura undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsocauseDexter'splothadmoreholesthanthemoon.
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[] brblol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likewhat?
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[] ZeroTolerrance undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peopledyingallovertheplaceandnoonecaring
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[] kollegekid420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InthefirstepisodeDextersaysthatMiamihasthehighestunsolvedmurderrate.
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[] NaramSin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sorrybutthattheoryiscompletelystupid.TVnetworksandbroadcastersareaforprofitbusiness.Theycreateshowsthatwillearn
moreviewings,inordertochargehigherfeesforadvertisersinordertoincreasethecompany'ssharepricesotheshareholdersget
richer.
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[] CaveRaves1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nofuckingshit?
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[] J3553 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkintheforensicsfacilityformylocalpolicedepartment.Acouplecopsweretalkingtooneofmycoworkersaboutthisguythey
caughtawhileagowhokilledanddismemberedhiswholefamily.Ioverheardandsaid"damnIcan'tbelieveIdidn'thearaboutthaton
thenews".Oneofthecopskindagiggledandsaidthatonlyabout510%ofthegruesomecrimesthathappenaroundhere(DC
suburbs)getreportedonthenewsandlessthanhalfthekillersevergetcaught.It'ssomethingItrynottothinkabouttoomuch.
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WhywouldtheproducersofTVcrimeshowswantcrimetostop?
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Moreeffectivethanpublicexecutions.
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[] BackToSchoolMuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orshowslike"homeland"aresponseredbytheamericangovernmentaspropaganda.
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[] simon_guy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LockheedMartinsponsorsNCIS.Notsurewhy.
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Manywarmoviesaresponsoredbythepentagon.Inexchangeformakingthemilitarylookgoodandattractive,theyletthemovie
makersusetheirtanks,helicoptersandotherwarprops.
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Occam'sRazoragain.
ThoseplotlinesarecommonbecausetheymakeforthemostinterestingTV/getthebestratings.
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[] ku7j3n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HomelandhasaprettyantiAmericanstancethoughwithhowtheyportraittheCIA,dronestrikesandhowtheygoaboutterrorists.
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[] enronghost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sponsoredbytheisraeligoverment.
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Evidence?
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itsanisraelishowmadebyisraelis,actedbyjews.
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Yeah.Evidencerequiresabitmorethanyousayingit.So,I'llsaythisslowly:
What'sthenameoftheproductioncompanyandthestudio?Whoownsthem?
HowdoyouknowalltheactorsareJews?
Whereisitfilmed?
WhywouldtheIsraeligovernmentmakeaTVshow,andwhywouldanetworkpickitup?
Youknow,Evidence.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_of_War_%28TV_series%29
searchyourselfifyoucurious,itsdonealsobythesamepeoplewhomade24,theybeenridingtheanti
muslimcoattailsforawhileinfluencingpublicperceptionalongwithit.
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No,mate.Itdoesn'tworklikethat.
You'vemadeanaccusation.I'vecalledyouonit.Eitherproduceevidenceoradmitthatyouarefullof
racistshit.
I'mwaiting.
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[] Xforce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Simplerexplanationisthattheymakealotofmoneyandtvnetworkslikehavingmoney.Lawandorderwassopopularthatitwason
fordecades.CSIanditsoffshootsusedtothedominateratings,andNCISisoneofthefavoriteshowsofoldpeople(themost
profitabletvdemographic).
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[] ploopley_kid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
oldpeople(themostprofitabletvdemographic)
Themostvotingdemographic.
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[] GoingCamaro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotsomuchaconspiracyasitissimplefact.Ihaveheardaccountsofpoliceofficersandotherpeoplewhohaveworkedfor
investigativetypeserviceswhosaytheseshowsaresupposedtomakeitseemlikethesystemisalmostimperviousandtheyWILLfind
you...I'llscaleitback,thoughtosomethingsimilarlikespeeding.Didyouknowthatpeopletendtorunfromthepolicemoreoftenthan
pullover?Didyoualsoknowtheymoreoftengetaway?Considerthis:youblowpassedaspeedtrap.Nowifyou'recasuallycruising
along,yesnextthingyouknow,lightsareintherearviewmirrorandtheblowhornisblaring,"PULLOVER!"BUTtherearethosewho
conciouslyareawareoftheirsurroundingswhentheyspeedandsometimeseitherslowdownbeforetheyspringthetrapORtheyjust
keepongoingandattempttoevade.Theydothisbyeitherspeedingupormaintainingtheirclockedinspeed.Initiallyyouthink,"that's
stupid,whywouldyoutrytorun?"Well...theyhavetocatchuptoyoutogetyourplateANDtheyhavetogoFASTERthanyouinorder
toevendothat...Ifyouknowwhatyou'redoingandyouknowhowtogetoffatthenextexitandfindadecenthidingspotoryourhome
isnearby,it'sactuallynotthathardtoevadeaspeedtrap.Nowyoumightbethinking,"howcomeI'veneverheardofthisbefore?"Do
youreallythinkthataprecinctisgoingtoreleasethisstatementtothemedia:"DoucheDrivingDodgeChallengerEvadesCops...
again."
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[] Alynatrill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butisitworthitifyougetextrafuckediftheydocatchyou?Atleastaroundherethecopsareprettychill.Mostlywarningsunless
you'redrunkordoingsomethingreallystupid.
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[] LurkingFalloutGuy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Canconfirm.Myparentsusedtogetpursuedbypoliceregularlyandtheygotawaymoreoftenthannot.
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Moonshiners?
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Hahahanojustcrazykidspartying
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[] morreo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverthoughtofthisbeforebutsoundsveryplausible.Chicagohasa50%homicidesolverate.50%forstraightupmurder.
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[] ApprovalNet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chicagohasa50%homicidesolverate.50%forstraightupmurder.
AssomeonewhogrewupinDetroit,that'saveryimpressivesolverate.
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[] Timmytanks40 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sthethingaboutmurder.Ifyouhaveamotiveit'sdifficultbutastrangerisreallyjustsoomuchfog.That'swhyserialkillersare
sosuccessfultheygoafterrandompeoplenotbecausethey'remasterminds.BTKgotcaughtbecauseofafuckinprinter.
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[] thispartyrules undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthemorecorrectanswerwashesentina3.5"disktothecops(afteraskingthemviamailwhetherornottheycould
tracewhereit'sfrom)withmetadataintheWorddocumentthatledinvestigatorstothechurchwherehevolunteered,where
hesignedhisnameinaledgernexttothecomputerwiththetimeheusedit.
Sohismistakeswere1.)beingunfamiliarwithtechnologyandthennotbotheringtodotheresearchonthissortofthingand
2.)askingthecopsiftheycouldtraceadisktohimandjustgoingwithitwhentheywerelikeLOLNO
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printer?Imguessingthepaperhadhiddenserialnumberthatidentifiedhisprinter.rookiemistake.
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[] gu1d3b0t undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthoseshowsalsointentionallyshowpolicecorruption(copgoesrogueandbreakstherules,butit'sokbecausehecaughtthe
badguy)tonormalizeitandmakepeoplethinkit'sok.Iwouldn'tbesurprisedifpoliceunionspaywritersforthatkindofthing.
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[] riffraff100214 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LawandOrderusedtoconstantlydosimilarthings.Theywouldharasstheshitoutofoneguybecause"theyknewhedidit"onlyto
findoutitwasn'thim.Alsoalotofborderlinepolicebrutality.
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Theonlyreasontheystillprintphonebooksisforcopstobeatpeoplewith.
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yabuttheFBIalwayslooklikethebadguy,whynormalizethat?
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Becausetheyhinderpolicewiththeirbureaucracyandoversight?
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whywouldthegovwanttogiveusthatidea?
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[] nmjack42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthoseshowsalsointentionallyshowpolicecorruptiontonormalizeit
that'swhatithinkabouttheshow"CriminalMinds".I'veonlywatcheditafewtimes,andeachtimeiwatchit,theblondwomanwith
thecomputerisdoingalltheseintrusivedatabasesearcheswithoutawarrant....but"it'sok"becausetheycatchthe
murderer/kidnapper/terrorist
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Ihavethatwoman.Andthatstereotype,rebelnerdatthecomputerwhatever.
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Doherafavourandchopherfaceoff.
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[] timoumd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavethatwoman.
Inyourbasement?Becausetheteamwillneverfindyouwithouthertellingyoutheaddressesofeveryonewhobought
6+whiteroseswithcreditcardsheldforlessthan7yearsinthetristatearea.
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[] 394iodkkl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
warrantsanddefenseattorneysarethemainantagonistsofeveryproceduralcopshow
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[] DersTheChamp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatshowsareyouwatching?
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Occam'sRazor...
ThoseplotlinesarecommonbecausetheymakeforthemostinterestingTV/getthebestratings.
TVwritersareselfinterestedandwouldn'teventakethephonecallfromthepoliceunion.
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PlusthereissomethingcalledtheCSIeffectwherepeopleonjurydutythinkforensicscienceiswaymoreprecisethatitreallyis,so
theirjudgementisheavilybiasedbysuch.
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[] Nymeria9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeasimilarlypeoplewhoenterclinicaltrialsandgetplacebosgetcuredmoreintheU.S.Thanothercountriesbecauseweputso
muchhopeonclinicaltrialsespeciallyIthinkonTVshows.Theclinicaltrialalwayssavesthecharacterwithsomeimpossible
disease.
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[] notjeffbuckley undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhackingreallydoeshappenthewaytheyportrayit.Itreallyisthateasy.
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Idon'tknow.Theyweretypingreallyreallyhardwhentheyguessedthatloginandpassword!
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[] Thebman712 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihadakidinmyschoolwhothoughthatferinsicsweresoadvancedtheycouldseeexactlywhen,who,andwhatsomeonewas
killedbyevenafterthebodywasburnt,orsomethingstupidcrazylikethat
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That'soneguywho'dbeworriedaboutmurderingsomeonenow.
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[] Jstats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andsemen!Semeneverywhere!
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Youshouldseethisplacewithablacklight.It'saJacksonPollockpainting.
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[] das_thorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mremindedoftheAmandaKnoxcase,wheretheprosecutormadeareallybigdealabouthowherDNAwasonthemurder
weapon.Well,yeah,itwasaknifefromthekitchenshesharedwiththevictim...
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[] Miskatonic_Prof undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheothersideoftheCSIeffectisthatcriminalsarealsogettingsmarter:
Criminalswatchtelevisiontoo,andthereisevidencetheyarealsochangingtheirbehaviour.Mostofthetechniquesusedin
crimeshowsare,afterall,atleastgroundedintruth.Bleach,whichdestroysDNA,isnowmorelikelytobeusedbymurderersto
covertheirtracks.Thewearingofglovesismorecommon,asisthetapingshutratherthantheDNAladenlickingof
envelopes.Investigatorscombcrimescenesevermorefinelyfornewkindsofevidence,whichiscreatingproblemswiththe
trackingandstorageofevidence,sothatevenasthecriminalsleavefewertracesofthemselvesbehind,abacklogofcoldcase
evidenceisbuildingup.
Source.
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[] GiveAlexAUsername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,DNAis100%precise.Anyotherforensicsciencethatwillbeusedinacourtroomisprettyprecisebutissuesariseina
coupleofdifferentways.Firstoffwhenaforensicscientistisonthestandandtheydescribesomepieceofevidenceasbeing
"consistentwithsamplestakenfromthesuspect"thejuryhearsthattheevidencecamefromthedefendantbutwhattheyshould
reallyunderstandisthatthedefendantcouldnotbeeliminatedasasuspect.Theotherproblemcomeswhenprosecutorsuse
peoplewhoarenotqualifiedtomakeforensicassessmentstotestifyagainstadefendant.Oneexamplewelearnedaboutwasa
manwhowasexoneratedondeathrow.DuringhistrialtheDAcalledadentisttotestifyaboutbitemarksfoundonavictim.The
dentistsaidthebitemarksDIDcomefromthedefendant.Noticethedifferenceinwordingthere.Whenaforensicbitemarkanalyst
lookedatthebitemarkslatertheysaidtherewasnowayinhellthedefendantmadethose.
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[] fuckyoubarry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irememberasakidinthe80smyteachertoldmeastoryfromafewyearspriorthatwhenhisapartmentgotburgled,heaskedthe
copsiftheyweregoingtodustforprints.Theylaughedandtoldhimhewatchedtoomanymovies.
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[] polishpotty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
u/turtletime25
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[] yacob_uk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusedtoworkaroundvideoforensicsfolks.ThebestoneIheardwasacopcominginwithapictureofaguywearingamotorcycle
helmet."couldyoushowmewhoisinthehelmet?"...Uhhhm...Notreally...
Theotheroneofnotewasguywithhisbacktothecamera,thecopaskediftheycould"turnhimaroundtoshowhisface"because
he'd"seensomethinglikethishadbeendonebefore"okay....Wasitonatvshow?....
Iknowthepersonthatwasasked,andItrustthemthattheseeventshappened.
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[] JustAsLost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.bostonreview.net/booksideas/nathanrobinsonforensicpseudosciencecriminaljustice
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[] Rickrickrickrickrick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sotheycan'tenhance?
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[] hschupalohs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithasanadverseeffectonjuriesincriminalcaseswherethestate'scasereliesonDNAevidence.Peoplebasicallyassumethat
CSIinvestigatorsareinfallible,andtheirresultsare100%precise.
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[] cactus_cat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIstartedIthoughttherewasthishugesemendatabankwitheverybadguyssemeninit.Ifhehadejaculated,andTHEN
punchedyouintheface,we'dhavearealgoodshotatcatchinghim.
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[] Momentstealer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetperceptionaboutthespeedofforensicprocesses.
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[] zennz29 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoapplicableforwhenIwasgoingthroughcollegeandtheCriminalJusticeprogramwasfloodedwithpeoplethatwantedtowork
asCSI.
FromwhatIunderstand,ahighpercentagechangedmajorswhenthenfoundoutitwasn'twhattheythoughtitwas.
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[] treeman8100 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Enhance
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[] pseudonarne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
excepttheytakethelackofmadeupbullshitsciencelikethesmelloscopeasevidenceoftheabsenceofevidenceandlettheguy
gowheninrealitythereisnosuchdevice:(
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[] Tylerjb4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DNAtestsareasham
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Asaprogrammer,IseetheNCISEffect.Peoplethinkcomputerhackingisamatteroftappingawayatakeyboardforfiveminutes,
whiletalkingtoyourboss,who'slookingoveryourshoulder.
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[] vetruvian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisismyfavoriteunrealisticscenarioinmovies.
Someguy:Quickweneedtoaccesstheirmainframeanddisableeverything.
Someotherguy:It'sgunnabetough,butIgotthis(madlysmasheskeyboardfor15sec).Okcool,I'min.
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Plus,ifyouneedtogetitdonemorequickly,youcanjusthavetwoguystypingawayatthesamekeyboard.Doublethe
hacking!
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[] GADBabaganoosh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orfuckingdexter
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[] dubalubdub undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthoughttheCSIeffectwasthatcriminalsVASTLYoverestimatetheabilityofforensicsandthereforedeploymassiveamountsof
forensiccountermeasuresleadingtoalotmoreunsolvedcrimes.
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[] RedBombX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yup.PeoplethinkcrimesceneforensicsworkisdonewithinanhourthankstoCSI.
Nope.ItusuallytakesMONTHSandifyou'renotdirectlytiedtothatvictimyouhavemorethana50/50chancetogetoff
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clean.Withmurder.
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[] gonna_get_tossed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GenerallytheCSIeffecthurtslawenforcementthough.
ItconvincesthepublicthatdefinitiveDNAandtraceevidenceisreallycommon,wheninrealitymostcasesrelyheavilyon
statements/testimony.
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[] Indenturedsavant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichsinceeyewitnesses"memories"aresounreliableiskindofironic.
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DNAevidenceisalsoneverconclusivelypositive.Itcanonlybeconclusivelynegative,fromwhatIunderstand.Ifitcomes
back"positive"thenit'sbasicallyjustlike..."hemaybedidit."Mightbethesamewithpaternitytests,notsure.
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[] butterflyp00n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://youtu.be/7C3RrvZMxM
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[] UncleBeatdown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
italsodeterpeoplefromcrimebythinkingthatnomatteriftheycommittheperfectcrimethatsomedustfiberonacatwillbe
linkedtothemandandtheminjail
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[] TheNewRobberBaron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkwhat/u/neeshengboinkissayingisthatbecauseweallbelievethatcopsandCSIaresodamnedeffective,wedon't
evenattempttocommitacrimeinthefirstplace.
Basically,kindalikeMinorityReport,wedon'teventhinktoattemptcrimebecausewearesoafraidthatwewillgetcaughtby
ahyperintelligent,hypercompetentpoliceforce.
Thechillingeffectoncrimeinducedbythecop/detectivemovieshopefullyexceedstheCSI/Matlockeffect.Whetherthisis
trueornotseemstobethecruxofthisconspiracytheory.
Personally,Ithinkwealljustliketobereassuredthatcopsare,infact,competentanddoactuallycatchcriminals.Asmuchas
adultsdismissfairytales,wegenerallyliketoseeheroeswinandbadguyslose.
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[] BuckYouFungie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Boohoo,poorlawenforcement...NottryingtobeadickbutatthispointinAmerica,itseemslikeanythingthathurtslaw
enforcementisagoodthing.Andthat'sreallysad.
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[] thelovicmachine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahitwouldbesoeasytocatchacriminalifhejustmasterbatedbeforeheleftthecrimescene.
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[] Nightmarity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatshowthefirst48wasgreatforthis.Everyshowwasessentially"hopefullythere'ssomeevidenceonscenenopethere
isn'tjackshithereohwaithere's1/16thofafingerprintfromtheneighborwhowasoverallthetimewecrackeditohnowait
wasn'thimbuthesaidhesawLarrydraggingabigbloodybagoutsideandthenhepostedaFacebookstatus'justkilledmy
bitchwifesoI'mbackonthemarketladieshmu'caseclosed"
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[] combaticus1x undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andshoeprints..
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[] ZippyDan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mostcasesrelyheavilyonstatements/testimony.
Whichhasbeen"recently"provenasnotoriouslyunreliable.
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[] ONI_Section_3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiswhyyouleavenowitnesses.
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[] randomcoincidences undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
there'sareasonjurorsareaskedwhetherornottheywatchthesecrimesolvingshows
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[] turfpat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
crimescenesareliterallycoveredinsementhough
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Havingseendocumentariesonhowficklethememoryisandhoweasilyfalsedetailsareimplantedintomemories...Icould
neverconvictanyonewithoutaconfession,videoevidence,and/orDNAevidence.
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[] ONI_Section_3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DNAcanbeplanted,audiomanipulated,andconfessionsforced,
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Sobasicallywhatyou'resayingisthere'snowaytotell.
Well,maybevideo.
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[] reddittrees2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
85%ofcasesneverseetrial.98%ofcasesdogototrialdonotuseanyDNAorfingerprintevidence.Thatremainingsmall
partiswhenallthatstuffgetsused.
Someonebrokeintoahome,attemptedtostealsomestuff,noonehurt?Alright,wetakesomepictures,lookformarkson
doorsandwindows,lookforafewfootprints.Allgetphotographedwithascaleandthenmaybeifthey'reluckythey'llcatch
theguy.Unlesssomeonegetshurtorkilledtheydon'tsciencetheshitoutofstuff.
Iforgethowmanypoints,Ithinkit's16or18,buttogetafingerprintmatchthatyoucanuseincourtofaprintyoumanagedto
findatacrimeis...wellnotexactlyeasy.Hell,findingaprint,orpartial,andliftingitissortofanartanddoesn'tworkallthe
time.
Basicallythoseshowsrepresentthatlikesmall3%ofcasesthatseetrialanduseallthatstuffandtossinahealthyhelpingof
dramaandoversimplification.Alotofthechemistryandmaterialsscienceandstuffisreal,butanythingwithacomputer...well
weallknowthatcmdandipconfigallisthebestwaytomakeitlooklikesomeoneishackingsomething.
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[] patgdesign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknow,thisjobthoughisn'thowshowslikeCSImakeitouttobe,whenIfirstjoinedtheforce,Iwasunderthe
impressionthateverythingwascoveredinafinelayerofsemen.Andthatthepolicehadattheirdisposalasemen
databasewitheverybadguy'ssemenonit.Nottrue!
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[] soulassassino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Funny,IwasworkingonacrimetvshowwhenIwas18,asaninternofsorts.Whenascenecameupwhereachap
waslookingatascreen,andquicklyminimiseditwhensomeonewalkedin,noneoftheproductioncrewactuallyhada
planonwhatshouldgoonthescreen,soIgotthemipconfigall.UntilyourcommentIthoughtIwastheonlyone.Inall
fairnessIdontwatchalotofTV.
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[] GarbageCanDump undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwatchedaCSIguyrunoveracarbreakin,andhedidn'tliftanyfingerprints,hetookpicturesofthem.
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Lolno.Yougotrobbed?Copsbasicallytellyoutofuckoff
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[] ThunderStun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] MeIsMyName undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheTVindustryreallyneedstolearnthatnetstatisamuchbettercommandforcounterhacking.Imean,itatleast
showsactiveconnections...
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[] ashinynewthrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iforgethowmanypoints,Ithinkit's16or18,buttogetafingerprintmatchthatyoucanuseincourtofaprintyou
managedtofindatacrimeis...wellnotexactlyeasy.
This.Atonepoint,forwork,Ihadtodevelopanalgorithmforbionetrics...Andholyshit,mostpeoplehavenoideawhat
thestateofthefieldis.Upuntilliterally2/3yearsago,peoplewerecomparingfingerprintsbyhand.Noonerealizes
this.Sure,theFBIhadanactualdatabasewithacomparisonengine...Butitcouldonlygetyouhalfwaythere,and
virtuallyeverylocalPDwasworkingwithanoutsidelabthatusesslides,somewihlowerbudgetsliterallyprintingthem
ontracingpaperandholdingthemovereachother.NotevenjustusingdifferentlayersinPhotoshoporsomething,I
meanphysicalpaper,beingmanuallycompared.
That'swhy"gettingfingerprintsbackfromthelab"takesdays.Becausesomedudewasliterallystaringatoverlapping
sets,comparingthembyhand.Itwasinsane.
Thelastfewyearshaveseensomemassiveleapsforwardformachinevisioningeneralthough,butyougottarealize
we'veseenthoseautomaticfingerprintsearchessincethe80's,andthatstuffNEVERexisted.
Crazy,right?
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[] GarbageCanDump undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
we'veseenthoseautomaticfingerprintsearchessincethe80's,andthatstuffNEVERexisted.
Crazy,right?
Thatisprettycrazy,andkindoffunny.
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[] ashinynewthrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right?Itreallyblewmymindatthetime,becauseIwastryingtofindadecentbasicalgorithmtoworkwith
andhadtoactuallygotoaforensicslabtogetastraightanswer...Whichwasthatthetechnologydidn't
exist.Itmakesmewonderwhatotherstuffwetakeforgrantedthatdoesn'tactuallyexist.
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[] timisher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dnathough.Thatshitwillgetyou.Hairfolicles.
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[] perfekt_disguize undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AwesomefactsbutanysourcesIcanuse?
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[] wotisgoingon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenumberofgaltonpointsrequiredfora"positiveidentification"actuallyvariescountybycounty.It'sanotherbig
reasonwhyfingerprintingisnotveryreliable,thestandardsandpracticesvarygreatlyaroundthecountry.
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[] ifactor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoI'dimaginemanycriminalsnowknowtonotleavefingerprints,dna,etcfromwatchingtheseshows.
Likesureitprobablysolvedabunchwhenitwasstillnew,butIdoubtanyoneputtinganythoughtintotheircrimeswill
leaveobviousevidence.
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[] LolitaT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
orsemen!
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[] kr4n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whaaat??Youwanttotellmethatipconfigallisnothowyouhack?O_O
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http://www.hackertyper.com/
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[] amagoober undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisalittleskewed...Thereasonalotofthemneverseetrialisbecausetheyhaveprettysolidevidence.Itbedumb
totryandfightitiftheyhaveyoudeadtorights.
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Pleadealsarethereasonmostcasesdon'tgototrial.Whyriskadecadeinjailifyoucanwalkawaywithafine
andafewmonthsofprobation?Evenifyou'reinnocentandyouknowthestatecan'tprovejack,it'sahellofa
choicetomake.
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[] amagoober undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,WehaveyourfingerprintsandyourDNAatthescene,Pleaoutandstopwastingeveryone'stimewe
willhelpyououttoo.
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[] finallyinfinite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheydidanepisodeofAdamRuinsEverythingonthis
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[] TwoPeopleOneAccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Someonebrokeintoahome,attemptedtostealsomestuff,noonehurt?Alright,wetakesomepictures,lookfor
marksondoorsandwindows,lookforafewfootprints.Allgetphotographedwithascaleandthenmaybeifthey're
luckythey'llcatchtheguy.
Wow,theymusthaveawellfundedpolicedepartmentwhereyoulive!Iwanttosayitwas7yearsagonowthatmyex
hadhishousebrokenintoandseveralthousandsofdollarsinrarecoins,goldnuggets(hewasintogoldprospecting),
andcashwasstolen.Adetectivecameover,lookedaround,didn'ttakeanyphotos,tookastatementfrommyexand
thenleft,nevertobeseenorheardfromagain.Myexevensuspecteditwassomeoneheknewbasedonsome
circumstantialevidencepointingtothatpersonandthefactthattherestofthehousewasnotdisturbedsothethief
apparentlyknewwherethevaluableswere.Andyetthatpersonwasneverevenquestioned.Somepolicedepartments
arereallyshit.
Ohandhishomeowners'insurancecompanygavehimawhopping$32forwhatwasstolen.
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[] reddittrees2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sothatguywhobrokeintoahome?Youknowhowhewascaught?Hisprybarleftyellowpaintontheplaceshe
usedit.Theypulloversomeguyswhohappentohaveayellowprybarinthebackseataswellasother'going
equipped'tools.Theywerealreadysuspectsforotherstuff.Sohowdidtheyfindouttheprybartheseguyshad
wastheoneused?GC/MSonthepaintandfigureoutwhomadethatspecificpaintcolorandforwhat
manufacturermatchprintstoprintsonthecrowbararoundthehouse?Shoemarks?No...
TheytooktheprybartoHomeDepot,foundtheexactone,lookedthroughreceipts,foundwhenandhowitwas
bought.Theydidn'tmakesomefancymoldoftheprymarksonthedoororsafe,theytookthedooroff,tookthe
prybarandtookpicturesofhowperfectlythemarksmatched,thentookthedoortoevidence.Shityounot.
Whenconfrontedwiththereceiptsandphotosandeverythingelsetheguysjustconfessedwhichiswhathappens
mostofthetime.Confess,makeadeal.
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[] mrm1776 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sadly,therearespeciallimitsonmostpoliciesfortheitemsthathehadstolen.Mostofthetimegoldcoinsand
nuggetsarecappedat$5001000andcashiscappedatanywherefrom$1001000.Andthenyou'vegotthe
deductibleappliedontopofthat.
Thatsaid,thecoinsandnuggetsmighthavebeenabletobeseparatelyscheduledonthepolicy.Butmostpeople
aren'tawareofthatbecausemostpeopledon'treadtheirpolicy.
It'sunderstandablefromaninsuranceperspective.Howisaninsurancecompanytoknowexactlyhowmuchcash
youhad?Andhowwouldyouproveit?Howwouldtheyknowhowpurethenuggetsofgoldwere?Howwould
theyknowthevalueofthegoldcoins?
OtherthingslikeaTVcouldeasilybeprovenonreplacementcost.Butsomeofthosespecialitemscanvary
wildlyincostwithtoomuchroomforerror,sothesmartbusinessdecisionistoinstitutelimits.
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I'mworriedaboutthisIhaveabunchofantiquesthatarevaluableandwouldbedifficulttoreplace.Is
photographingsufficient?Wouldanappraisalhelp?OrshouldIjustassumethat,ifaburglardidtakethisall
oritwaslostinafire/tornado/etc,homeowner'swon'tcoverit?
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[] mrm1776 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcangetthatseparatelyscheduled.Talktoyourinsuranceagent.Theywillwalkyouthroughhow
tomakesureyouareproperlycovered.
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[] WTB_Tacos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sactuallyhowmostburglariesarehandled,atleastineveryareaofthecountryI'velivedinandaccordingto
family/friendswhoareLEO's.
Itallcomesdowntotimeandpriority.Ifthere'snoriskofdangerorinjurytopeople,nothingisgoingtogetlooked
intounlessit'sanextravagantamountofhighprofile.
Theonlythingyoucanreallydoagainststrangersisgetgooddeadboltlocks(Withasolidstrikeplateorit's
useless)andhaveadog,thosearethetwobiggesttipsthatI'vereceivedovertheyears.Otherthanthat,
photographallyourvaluables,keeptheirreceipts,andkeepthosesomewheresafelikeasafetydepositbox.That
waywhenyoudogetburgled,youhaveevidenceofyourpossessionsandpricesthatatleastmitigatesomeof
theriskofinsurancecompaniesfuckingyouover.Ofcourseinsurancecompanieswillalwaystrytodothat
regardlessanddidtomewhenIgotburgledacoupleyearsago,refusedtopayoutanything.
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Ihavetwodogs,bothover100lbs.Bothareloudasfuck.AmIburgleproofyet
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[] TheRadZad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn,32$.JACKPOT
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[] coldgears undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Premiumswentup$50amonth.
CHACHING
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[] adam6923 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydon'tdoaunifiedstandardforpointmatchingonfingerprintinganymore.Eachdepartmenthasitsownstandards,
atleastinmystate.
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[] projectMKultra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CSItypeshowsalsoimpairlawenforcementinthisway:"okaysowhereisthecrimescene?""It'soverhereofficer,whileI
waswaitingforyoutogethereItookalltheevidenceandputitinplasticbagslikeIseenonTV.Ihelped!"
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[] inexcess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseenoproblemwithit.
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[] yanroy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisagoodthingforjustice.Weshouldn'tbeputtingpeopleawayunlesstheevidenceisbeyondreproach.
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[] Tsorovar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
evidenceisbeyondreproachasonabledoubt
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[] Jetharred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
should\=is
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[] thumpas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So6peoplesawaguybeingbrutallymurderedbutjustbecausethere'snotDNAevidenceheshouldgofree?
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[] Eplore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatifyouadddetails?Those6knoweachotherandareinagang.Stillbelievableormaybetheykilledhimand
framedthesuspect?
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The"murderer"istheCEOofatelecomcompanyandthe6guyswerehiredbysomebodythathas
investmentsinthatcompany'scompetitorinthearea.
Thisisathreadaboutconspiracytheories,afterall.
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[] SpinalCracker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthat'snotwhathesaidatall.Hesaid"beyondreproach,"andIfeellike6witnesseswouldprobablyqualifyas
beyondreproach.
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[] Forkrul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Depends,dothewitnessesknoweachother?Didtheyhaveanyrelationtothevictim?Dotheyhaveany
criminalaffiliations?
Manywaysevenaseeminglylargenumberofwitnessescanbehighlyunreliable.
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[] evanescentglint undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthere'snoDNAevidence./s
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[] TimbuFTZB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andthat'swheretheCSIeffecthurtslawenforcement
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[] AzrealLPW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsbadeitherway,testimonyistheleastaccurateformofevidenceinexistence,itisn'tevenevidence.
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[] stufff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsbadeitherway,testimonyistheleastaccurateformofevidenceinexistence,itisn'tevenevidence.
Anythingthattendstomakesomethingmoreorlesslikelyisevidence,actually.Whileyourassertionthattestimonial
evidenceisnotoriouslyinaccuratehasalotoftruthtoit,it'salsoextremelyconvincingtoajuryandisabsolutely
admissibleevidence.
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[] dmkicksballs13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sbasicallynotconstruedasreliableanymore.Theydidanexperimenttoproveit.Theysetupastreetshowandhad
anactorrobanotheractor.Theybroughteveryonetothecourthousemerehoursaftertheeventandhadthemdescribe
theclothes.Noonewasevenclose.Thentheyhadthempicktherobberoutofalineup.8ofthempointedoutone
dudeandthetwootherpointedoutothers.Noneofthe10fingeredthecorrectguy.Nowaddthatinreallylifesome
trialstakealmostayeartobeginandinthatyeartheywitnesseshavewatchedafuckloadofnewsandheardshitfrom
alltheirfriends.Theywillnotbeclosetoreliableinrecountingtheevents.
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[] marauder1776 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihadtheimpressionthattestimony,asarule,was"evidence,"andeverythingelse(fingerprints,DNA,videofootage,
etc.)iscalled"circumstantialevidence."ButIknowlittleofcriminology.
Agreethatwitnessesoftenareunreliable.
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[] oneonetwooneonetwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Prettymuch.Itcomesdowntodirectevidenceandcircumstantialevidence.Iftheevidencedirectlyshowsyou're
guiltythenit'sdirectevidence.Ifit'ssuggestive,youhavetoinferfromthepictureitdraws,thatyou'reguiltyit's
circumstantial.
Thingslikehavingyourfingerprintsonthebloodyknifethatyouboughtsixhourspreviouslydoesn'tshowyou
stabbedthevictimwhowassleepingwithyourwifebutit'sdamngoodevidencethatyoumighthave.
Someonesayingtheysawyoustabthevictimisdirectevidencebuteyewitnessesareobviouslyfalliblesothere's
nodirect>circumstantialthinggoingon.
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[] marauder1776 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanksforthehelpfulreply.
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Everypieceofavailableinformationistechnically"evidence".DNAandfingerprintsarephysicalevidence,while
surveillanceisvideoevidence.Ofthethree,videoevidenceisthemostrespectedandeyewitnesstestimonyisthe
least.
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[] TheUltimateSalesman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'treiteratethisenough.
itisn'tevenevidence
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[] Bajeezus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butitisevidence.Whatareyoupeopleeventalkingabout?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_(law)
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Itcanbeusedasevidence,butoftenincorrect.http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dotheeyeshave
it/
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[] Delror undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthatdoesn'tmakeitnotevidence.You'rejustblatantlywrong.Iandmostpeopleagreeit'sbad
evidence,butitisevidence.
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Thestatsshowit'sgarbage.
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[] funkymunniez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itisn'tevenevidence.
What?Yes,itabsolutelyis.
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[] UnknownXV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itshouldn'tbe.Somepeoplegotojailpurelybasedonwitnesstestimony.That'sinsane.
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You'regettindownvotedprettyhardbutIagree.Peopleareshitty.Thethoughtofgoingtojailbecause
somebodythatdidn'tlikeyouorhadsomethingtogainfromframingyoutestifyingpurelies,it'spretty
fuckedup.
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[] UnknownXV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thathappensoftentome.Igenuinelyhateitwhensomeonedownvotesmewithoutcommentingto
offeranexplanation.
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[] FailedTech undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadpostsdownvoted,thenwhensomeonerepliesandIcounterbasicallysayingthesame
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thinginmyfirstpostthatonegetsupvoted.
Votestendtobeamoreemotionalresponsetypeofdeal.
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Meh,comeswiththeterritoryofhavingstrongopinions.Peoplelovetousethatdownvote
buttonasadislikebutton.Thatoryou'rebeingcensoredbythegovernmentpowerthatcontrols
Redditbecausethousandsoffaketestimoniesareplantedbythegovernmenteveryyearto
pushtheiragenda.
FuckIneedtostopreadingthoseconspiracythreads.
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[] w4hammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlyifthereisn'tpsychicalevidence.
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[] funkymunniez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,that'sabsolutelywrong.Testimonyisalwaysevidence.
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[] Bajeezus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sstillevidence.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_(law)
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[] gonna_get_tossed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,Iamnotimplyingtestimonyisgoodevidence,justthattheCSImainlyhurtslawenforcementratherthan
defendantsassuggested.
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[] Pointwest418 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCSIeffectprobablyalsodetersacertainamountofcrimetoo
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[] bitwaba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkitshouldmatterwhichpartyissupportedmorebytheevidencethough.
Weshouldn'tcarewhetherthestateorthedefendantiscorrect.Weshouldcarewhetherthedefendantisorisn't
guilty.Thatrequiresevidence.Theburdenofproofisonthestate,andifajurycantmakethatdecisionbasedon
theevidenceprovided,thenthedefendantisnotguilty.
"Maybehedidit,becausehe'sdonesomethingbadbefore"isn'tgoodenough.
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[] donjulioanejo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Maybehedidit,becausehe'sdonesomethingbadbefore"isn'tgoodenough.
True,butwhentwosuspectsinarobbery/homicideareawhitecollarguymaking100kayear,andanex
conthatwenttojailtwiceforrobbery,chancesareit'stheexcon,unlessthewhitecollardudekilledhis
wife'smistressandframedtheexcon,orhasgamblingdebtsorsomething.
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[] pbblp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
isitwrongthatIsnapmoviedyourcommentas"gettingawaywithmurder"?
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[] ludicologist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whereareyougettingthisinformationfrom?
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Thisistrue.
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[] poozername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheCSIeffectgoestheotherwayalsothoughjuriesexpectcomplicatedforensicsandDNAinalotofcasesthatwouldn'tnormally
haveit,soitmakesthemthinkthecaseisweakandendupgoingnotguilty.
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[] Henry_Ireton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Defencebarristerhere.
Ihavehighlightedthelackofforensicorindependentevidence(CCTVetc.)inalmosteverycaseIhavedefended.Thepoint
whichseemstobethemostpersuasive(althoughIdon'tknowaboutthecrownCourtasjuriesdon'tgivereasonsfortheir
verdicts)iswhenawitnesshasclaimedthataphonecalloratexttookplace.Howhardcanitbefortheprosecutiontoproveit
happened?Justinterrogate/exhibitthephone.Isuspectthatmanylaypeoplehavenoideaofthepracticalrealityofhowthe
policeinvestigatecrime.
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There'sanoppositeTVeffectcalledtheLawandOrdereffectwherejuriesassumethatthedefencehasgotsomething
horribleburied.
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[] UncannyCannabinoid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavelivedthisrealityasajuror.Sodepressing.
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[] WindomEarle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisisactuallyagoodthingthough.Ifyou'regoingtolockupafreecitizenwithrights,youbetterhaveastrong
goddamncase.
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[] ApocolypseCow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orthedon'tgototrialbecuaseyouwillprobalylooseeffectwhenyouhaveapublicdefender.
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[] illiterati undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmeancasesrelyingheavilyoncircumstantialevidencehavealowerrateofprosecution?Shocking!
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[] AnalgesicSex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldthecasenotactuallybeweakwithoutthatevidence?
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[] MrChurchSir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notacoporprosecutor,butIdohaveadegreeinlawenforcement.Circumstantialevidenceisevidencetoo.Also,
confessionsarealotmorecommonthanTVwouldhaveyoubelieve.Oneofmyprofessorsspecializedininterviews
(interrogationhasabadconnotation),andhesaidtheTVdepictionwasasfarfromusefulasetupaspossible.
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'Circumstantialevidence'isabadwordforlaypeople.'Circumstantialevidence',likeDNA,isexactlywhatCSI
effectjuriesarelookingfor.
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That'sforensicevidence.Circumstantialevidenceisstufflikeavideocameraputtingyounearthesceneof
acrimearoundthetimeitoccurred.
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AndalsostufflikeDNAandfingerprints.It'sallcircumstantialevidence.Theoppositeof
"circumstantialevidence"is"directevidence"ratherthan"forensicevidence".
AsIsay,laypeoplejustthinkitmeansbadevidence.
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Right,butlaypeopledon'ttalkaboutdirectorindirectevidence.Thelaypersonunderstands
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forensicevidenceasseparatefromothertypesofcircumstantialevidence,whichwasmypoint
althoughIprobablycouldhavephraseditbetter.I'veneverseenacopshowthattreated
forensicevidencelikethecircumstantialevidenceitis,somythoughtisthatthelayperson
wouldnotbeconfusedbyusingthephrasecircumstantialevidencetodifferentiateforensic
evidencefromotherindirectevidence.
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AndalsostufflikeDNAandfingerprints.it'sallcircumstantialevidence.
AsIsay,laypeoplejustthinkit'sabadword.
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[] itsjustchad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hesaidtheTVdepictionwasasfarfromusefulasetupaspossible
Howso?
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Muchof(effective)interviewinghastodowithreadingbodylanguagesoyoucanknowhowtheother
personisreactingtoyou.Puttingatableinthewayblocksoffhalfoftheirbodyandcreatesa
confrontationalenvironment.Thestrategymyprofessorusedinvolvedmakingtheotherpersonwanttotalk
tohimbycreatingafriendlyenvironmentandessentiallytrickingtheotherpersonintothinkingofhimasa
friend.Yellingatasuspectfromacrossatabledoesn'tdoanythingotherthanalienatethem.
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[] 174pounder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I...Ididthecrime.
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You'vegottorememberhowhardmostofthepeople'sliveshavebeen,aswell.Thecopinterviewing
themafteranarrestmightbeoneofjustahandfulofpeoplewhohaveeverspokentothemnicely.If
anything,theproblemisthehoneyratherthanvinegarmethodhasunfortunatelybeenshowntobe
tooeffective.
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What?How?Thatdoesn'tmakeanysense.There'snosuchthingasbeingtoogoodatgetting
aconfession.
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Gettingfalseconfessions?
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[] itsjustchad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wowneverthoughtaboutthetable.Iwasthinkingitmightbeasyousaid,afriendlyvsinquisitional,
setting.Coolinfoandthanksforthelinks,gonnacheckemoutandifIcanapplysomeofittomykids!
LOL
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Hismostrecentbook,TheLikeSwitch,talksabouthowparentscanapplythisstufftokids.He
practicedonthreeofhisown.
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Sowhatdoyoudowiththatdegree?
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Lawschoolcurrently.
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[] androbot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavelivedthisrealityasaprosecutor.Backthen,wecalledittheMatlockeffect.
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Ohyeah?WellIcallitthePerryMasonEffect.
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Idon'tthinkthat'swrong,either.Thefactthatyoucancallitanyofanumberofthingsmeansit'spretty
widespread.Ontheonehand,it'sfunnytoseelifeimitatingart.Ontheotherhand,thefactthatreallivesareon
thelineisfrightening.Irealizedthatalotoftheguilt/innocencedecisionsbeingmadehadlittletodowithfacts,
andmoretodowithplayingtoemotionsorexpectations.Ihadahardtimereconcilingtheneedtobemanipulative
withservingthepublic,soIhadtoquit.It'satoughbalancingact.
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Isn'tthatwhenpeoplewho'vewatchedtoomanylawyershowsthinktheyknowenoughtorepresentthemselvesin
court?MaybeI'mthinkingPerryMasoneffect.
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I'msureit'sawellstudiedthing.BackwhenIwaspracticing,wejustusedMatlockasthereference.Itwas
incrediblyfrustrating.
Truestory:onetimeacolleaguehadacaseofacrackbuywherecopsranuponthetransactionandbusted
everyone.Thedefendantpoppedthecrackintohismouthandthecopshadtofishtherocksoutmanually(yeah,
I'msuretheyweren'tgentle).Thejuryreturnedaverdictof"notguilty"alongwithahandwrittennotethatindicated
thattheyfeltthedefendantwasguilty(itwasarunupbustofadrugdeal)butthatthestatehadn'tproveditscase
beyondareasonabledoubtbecausetheydidn'tenterevidenceofthedefendant'sfingerprintsorDNAbeingfound
onthecrack.Ahalfdozenwitnessesweren'tenough.Atthetime,DNAtestscostalmost$1000soitwasnot
practicaltodotestingroutinely,andyouwillneverfindfingerprintsoncrack.
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"Wait,wedidn'thavethestarwitnessgetdupedintoconfessingonthewitnessstand?Guessthedefendantmustbe
guiltythen..."
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[] TomasTTEngin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HiAtticus.
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[] Senorjefe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyoumeanAtticusFinch,hewasservingasadefenseattorney.That'skindoftheoppositeofaprosecutor.
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Whenyoumakeajokeontheinternetandyouimplysomeonewhoisoldandalawyerisfamousfictional
oldlawyer,yougetquiteadealbitofcreativelicensefromsomepeople,butI'mgladtoseeyousetahigher
bar.)
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[] CorndogNinja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
bar
morelawyerjokes!
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[] Senorjefe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Frankly,Iwasn'tawarethatwasthejokeyouweremaking.ThatwasquiteajourneyfromPointAto
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PointByouwereaskingustotakewithyou.
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wellI'veenjoyedourtripalotandeventhoughwehadourdifferencesI'mgladwemadeit
together.
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[] Yourselfie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justcallitpeopleareshallownotthinkingsheepeffect
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TheweirdthingIfoundwasthatpeopleweren'tnecessarilyshalloworunthinking.Theyjustweren'tthinkinginan
objectivelyrationalway.Juriesusealltheinformationavailabletothem,andlawTVisabigpartofthat,
unfortunately.Ithelpsshapetheirexpectationsofhowthingsshouldgo.Mostpeopleunderstandthatcourtroom
dramasaren'treallife,buttheyalsobelievethatitiscloseenoughtoberealistic,sotheycanuseshowstohelp
themframeexpectations.
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Wellyou'renotwrong
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youkidsandyourwackyMatlock
inmyday,wehadIronside,inblackandwhite
thenquinnmartin,theFBIandcolortvcamealong
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IwasinelementaryschoolwhenthatwasonTV.IremembermymomwatchingitandIcouldn'tunderstand
wheretheactionwas.
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[] Oakroscoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhataboutRockford?
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$200/day+expenses
Thatgreatbitinthediehardparody,evilguyshootsuptraileronbeachguycomesout,itisthewrong
trailer,andwavestheevilhelicopterdown3lots.
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[] missdingdong undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndHamiltonBurgerwhowononlyonecaseagainstPerryMason.
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[] theotherghostgirl 124points
Trumpistheultimatetroll.
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[] bathroomstalin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaaaaaaaveyoumetRachelDratch?
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[] jh2011 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwanthimtogetthenominationandthenstartisacceptancespeechgosomethinglike"Areyoufuckingkiddingme?Igottabehonest,
atfirstIwasseriousaboutthiselectionbutonceIrealizedI'dneveractuallywinIjustwantedtoseehowmuchcrazyshitIcouldsay
andbeforeyoubailedonmeandyoudidn't!ThecrazierIgotthemoreyoupeopleateitup?Doyouhaveanyideahowharditwas
tryingtotopmyselfallthetime?JesusChrist,IthoughtthemandatoryregistrationofMuslimAmericanswouldbewhereitendedforme
butwow,youguysjustkepteatingitup.You'reallinsaneandyouneedtogetyourheadsexamined,youshouldallbeashamedof
yourselves.No,Irejectthisnomination.Getyouracttogetherpeople.walksoffthestageshakinghisheadandchuckling
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[] Kayak_Fisherdude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dudethiswouldbethebestthingforourpolitics..thingsareoutofcontrol.IsTrumptheheroweneed?
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[] Kalessar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sowashitler
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[] RPanonymoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hell,theendofhisacceptancespeechhasalreadybeenwrittenanditgivesashoutoutto/pol/
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Link?
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[] jagender21 1point
Illuminati
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[] bildpunkt 94points
Thereasonthereareliterallynogoodprintersisbecausethemanufacturersmakemoremoneysellingbadprinters.Itmakestotal
sense,iftheymakeagoodprinterthatdoesn'tbreaktheyonlygetonesaleoutofyou.Iftheymakeaprinterthatbreaksafter6months
theygetmultiplesales.
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Stepupintoalaserjet.AtworkI'veservicedHPLaserjetswithpagecountsinthemillionsofpages.
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[] MyDaddyTaughtMeWell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'shardtofindaprinterthatdoesn'thavea1yearwarrantyandIserviceloadsofprintersthathavebeeninusefor5+years.Brother,
canon,andHPallsellwarrantiesfortheirprintersthataresupercheapand(withHP)youcanadda$40warrantytoafouryearold
printerandgetitservicedorreplacedforfreethenextday.
Liketheothercommentersaid,it'sallaboutthatink.
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JokesonthemIsmashedeveryinkjetOfficeSpacestyleandnowownabatchofditchcheapbulletprooflasersfromthe90s.
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Yeah,notaconspiracybutanacceptedformofmarketing.You'rejustkeptinthedarkaboutit.
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Therearegoodprinters:Brotherlaserjets.
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[] IKWJZN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itscalledplannedobsolescenceandprettymucheverycompanyeverdoesthisshit
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[] wadiwad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MydadwilljusttaketheprintertoCostcoonceit'soutofinkandreturnithahathenjustgetanewoneforfree
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[] FoodTruckNation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearegoodprinters.Thereareexcellentprinterswitheconomicalbulkink.
Butnotfor$35atOfficeDepot.
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[] Plowbeast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EpsonhasalwaysbeenshitHPandCanonvarydependingonthemodellineastheygetmanufactured/engineeredindifferentplaces.
Brotherhasactuallybeenconsistentlygoodalthoughlowspec.
Mostprintersstillhavea1yearwarrantykeepingitpoweredoffwhennotinusecanhelpinsomecases.
Likesomeoneelsesaidthough,laseristhewaytogoifyoucanspendthemoneyifyouhaveinkjet,justbuyCarrotInkasitusually
savesyou40%offthemanufacturer'sstickpriceforcartridges.
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[] Salt_peanuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getalaserprinter.TheylastaLOTlonger.
Yes,thetonerisstillexpensive.
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[] HarperMicrosoftShill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GettheHPP1606dn.Totallybulletproof,andwithaconvenientLANportaswell.
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[] Michael_Goodwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iimaginethisisprobablytrueforaloooootofthings.
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[] heytheredelilahTOR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'rejustbuyingshittyprinters.I'vehadmyBrotherlaserprinter(thatIboughtfor$60)fornearlythreeyearsnow.Iprinta
massiveamountofstuff.Cometothinkofit,I'veneverhadaprinterbreakonme.
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I'vehadmyBrotherlaserprinter
laserprinter
Thereyougo.Peoplearetalkingaboutinkprinters.Theyaretheshittyones.Theyhaveinkcostmorethantheprinteritself.
Laserprintersarereliable,hasslefree,getmoremileageoutofrefills,andtherefillsarejustblackpowderavaliableanywhere.
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[] y3110w undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'scauseit'slaser.They'retalkingaboutinkjetwhichdoeseatupinkevenwhennotused.It'sbettertobuylaser.
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ButIalsohaveaninkjetthatmymomusesandit'saboutfiveyearsold(Canon).IgotthisonebecauseIneededsomething
thatcouldtakephotocopies.IhadacheapCanonpriortothatthatIgavetoysisterandshestillusesit.Igotridofmyancient
HPprinteronlybecauseHPinkisstupidexpensiveandranoutincrediblyquickly,thisiswhenIboughtthefirstCanon.Ido
myresearchbeforeIbuythembecausethereAREplentyofshittyprintersonthemarket.
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[] shoobuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mybrothermfc420brokelastyear.Itwas8yearsoldthough.
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[] erickpasta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IThere.Canconfirm.
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[] ST84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Mindifyoutellmethemodelname?I'vealwaysbeenlookingforanewprinter.
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BrotherHL2270DW.It'salaserprinterbutitdoesn'tprintcolour.Iprintalotofverylargedocumentsforschool(provincial
andfederallegislationthatwehavetohavethehardcopyofforexams),soI'veputitthroughit'spaces.Ihaven'thadaneed
forcolouryet,soIdon'tregretnotspendingtheextramoney.
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[] nudefox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hesprobablytalkingaboutthelittlebrotherblackandwhitelaserprinterletmefinditforyou.
checkoutlikethebrotherhl2320Dorsometingalongthoselinesitsbarebonesbutitprintsquicklyholdsadecentamountof
paperandthetonercartridgesareprettycheap
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thetonercartridges
tonercartridges?youcanjustpourabunchofblacktonerinwithafunnel
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thanksmate!
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[] plural_of_nemesis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myparentshavealaserprinterfromtheearly90sthatstillprintsgreat.It'sinsanelyslow,andonlyprintsblackandwhite,butit
printstextbetterthanmostnewprinters.
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[] Forever_Neon_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
you'reinonit
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[] not_my_delorean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'realmostthere,it'stheinkcartridgeswheretheymakealltheirmoney.Theyselltheprintersataloss(andliterallygivethemaway
withnewcomputers)andmakealltheirmoneyoffofwildlyoverpricedinkcartridges.
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Thatwouldexplainwhytheprintersareshitqualitythen,notlikethecompanygivestwoshitspastgettingsomethingouttosellthe
inkforit.
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[] LittlePetiteGirl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justtobackyouup,myboyfriendisbasicallyaprintersalesmanandhesaysit'sprettymuchcheapertobuyanewprinterevery
timeitrunsoutofink.
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[] shoobuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhadaLexmarkthatwas25bucks.Torefilltheinkwas60.SoIkeptbuyingtheprinter.
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[] Zenarchist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyareawareofthis,whichiswhythecheapprintersonlyhaveabout25%oftheink.
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ithinkeveryoneknowsthisalready.
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[] OliverCloshauf 45points
VinceFosterdidnotcommitsuicide.
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[] TChuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sanamefromthepast.Amazinghowwehaven'theardabouthowtheClintonshadhimkilledfromthepress....ohit'saClinton,
it'snotthathardtobelieve.
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[] aPerfectBacon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatmakesyousaythis?
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[] Bart_Dart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotsuperfamiliarwiththisstory.Caretoelaborate
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[] elj0h0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Vince_Foster
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[] Santoron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HillDogorderedthathit.Ithoughtwehadsettledonthatasfactyearsago...
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[] RyanTally 6points
Nope.Clinton'shadhimkilled.100%believethis.
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[] theotherghostgirl 2661points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WorldwidePlannedobsolescence.Basicallyyoumakeaproductthatworksforjustlongenoughthatconsumerswillbuyanewone
fromyouwhenitbreaks.MyproofofthisisthatmyparentshaveacoffeegrinderthatisolderthanIamandIhavegonethrough4of
theminthepast3years.
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[] LolitaT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneoftheproblemswiththiscouldbethatyourparentsgotluckyandendedupwithoneofthegrindersthatdidn'tbreak.Some
productthatyouhadbreakcouldstillbeinusebysomebodyelse30yearsdowntheroad.
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[] Gre123778 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisseriouslyappliestofridges.Evensubzerohighendfridges.
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FuckingKeurigs!
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[] TruthFromAnAsshole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
gobuyaRancilloRocky.
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[] digitalis303 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alotofpeoplearetalkingaboutbasically"Yougetwhatyoupayfor".However,thisisnotalwaysthecase.Youallneedtocheckout
"TheLightbulbConspiracy".Thereisabsolutelyanagendabymanycompaniestoengineerproductstofail(NOTjustbecheaperto
make).Thequintessentialexamplefromthefilmwasaninkjetprinterwithacountingchip.Whenthecounterreachedacertainnumber
theprinterstoppedworkingandhadtobejunked....unlessyoufoundsomeobscureresetprogramofftheinternetandthenvoila,just
likenew!
Plannedobsolescencedoesn'tjustpissmeoffbecauseshitbreaks.Itrunscompletelycountertotheenvironmentalconceptof
sustainability.Ifyouwanttoseethingschangepushformanufacturerstotaketheirproductsbackattheendoftheirlivesandforce
themtorecyclethematerials.Thiswillchangethedesignaspectssothattheywillbemoreexpensive,BUTeasiertofixandrecycle.
CradletoCradleisthetermdescribesthisdesignethos.
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[] kebutankie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydosomethinglikethiswithwaterheaters.Theyplacejustenoughofasacrificialanodeinside,sothatitnormallybreaksrightafter
thewarrantyperiodends.
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[] rabidbasher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/buyitforlife
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Oneshouldneverquotewikipedia.
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[] Metalmind123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,that'snotaconspiracytheory,that'sjustaverycommonproductstrategy.
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[] chaosintestinal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItisknownthatflatTVhavecheapcapacitorswhobreakrandomlybutsurelyaftersomeyearsit'sjustsatisticsandveryeasyto
calculate.
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Thisisjusttheresultofcapitalismandeconomicsofscale.
Ifyouevermadesomethingthatrequiredelectroniccomponents,you'dunderstand.Ifyoucanmakethesamethingwith0.002$
capacitorsthatwilllastfor3yearsreliablyand0.23$onesthatwilllast10+years,you'llchoosetheformer.Itischeaperforyou,
cheaperforthecustomer,andyouarenotrequiredtoofferwarrantyformorethantwoyearsinmostplaces.
Youcouldusemilspecpartsandhaveagreatproductthatwilllastdecades,butthepriceforthatisusuallyatleasttriple,ifnot1020
timesmore.
Simpleefficiency.
ps:Youcanstillbuystuffthatlastsdecades,butitisaluxury.Weliveatatimewhenmassproductionistheonlycheapoption,and
anythinghandcraftedorlimitedinnumberswillbewaymoreexpensive.Sad,butthere'snothingreallyyoucandoagainstthis.
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[] gabsramalho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ionceheardastoryaboutaninventorinmycitythatcreatedahairclipthatwouldneverloseitscaporbendtobreak(beautyindustry
ishugeinmycountry).Heinvestedallhismoneyinhisresearchandthenwenttosellhisinventiontothelargestcompanythatmakes
thatkindofproducts.TheCEOjustlookedstraightathisfaceandsaid"whythehellwouldImakeahairclipthatdoesn'tneed
replacement?"Guyinvestedsomuchofhistimeandmoneyinhisinventionthatlosthisfamily,gotintodepressionandneverhada
stablejobagain,justbecausehethoughttheindustrywasinterestedinofferingbetterproductstocustomers.Feelsadforhim.
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[] DangerousPuhson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyproofofthisisthatmyparentshaveacoffeegrinderthatisolderthanIamandIhavegonethrough4oftheminthepast3
years.
Probablybecauseyourparentsuseittogrindcoffee,andyou'reprobablyusingittogrind...otherstuff...
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[] mmmfritz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifmyfruitbowlhasahalflifeof1000yearsIdon'tthinkmygrandsonwouldcomplain.
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[] cyberdork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaysthoughtcompaniesswitchedtocheapshortlifetimecapacitorsinthe80s,whenelectronicsbecamesoprevalentinmost
products.
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[] Nymeria9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'reintosomething.Myfamily'soldoldsonicaretoothbrushesarerunningjustfineandnewoneshavetobereplacedevery2
yearsbecausesomethinggoeswrongwithit.
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[] PointyBagels undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisnotcausedbymalice.Thereasonthingsarecheaplymadeistogetthelowestprice.Itsnothardtofindsomethingthatwilllast
longer,butyouhavetopayforit.
Ireallyhatethatthisisconstantlypushedonreddit.
Theonlymalicious"plannedobsolescence"thatexists,isholdingbacktechthatyouhavenow,sopeoplewillbuyboththismodeland
thenextone.
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[] DICKTracey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Firstpracticedbylightbulbmanufacturers
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[] dragoneye undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkinproductdesign.IcansaythatI'veneverbeenaskedtomakeanysortofproductthatwillbreakinaspecificamountoftime
unlessyoucountthatIdesignproductsthatmustpassspecificteststhatsimulatetheexpectedlifeoftheproduct.Inmanycasesthese
testsaresignificantlyharsherthananypracticalusecase.Hell,predictingthefrequencyofuseeffectivelycanbequitedifficult.
Rather,productsfailbecausetheyneedtobemadesmaller,cheaper,lighter,andhavemorefeaturesthaneverbeforeinorderto
competeinthemarket.AddedcomplexitydecreasestheMTBFofaproductbecausewhileeachcomponentmayhavehighreliability,
theoverallchanceoffailureishigh.
Thatisn'ttosaythattherearesomeproductsouttherethataredesignedtofail,butitisn'tthatwidespread.
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[] In_between_minds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thetruthissimpler,andmoresad.Consumers,byandlarge,willnotpayforqualityinsufficientforce,andareeasilyswayedbylow
pricesregardlessofreductionofquality.Thecostoffiguringouthowtomakesomethinglastaspecificshortperiodoftimeisdwarfed
bythecostsavingsofdesigningsomethingtobecheaper,regardlessoftheimpactonlongevity.Andasmentionedelsewhere,survivo
shipbiasmakes"lookatthis40yearoldthingthatstillworks!"lessthanuselessasabasisofhonestcomparison.
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Liftanitemmadeinthe70searly90s.Nowliftthatsameitemmadepast2000.Noticetheweightdifference?It'ssteelvscheapChina
plastic.Notreallyaconspiracy.
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[] climbomatic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Absolutelynotaconspiracy.Thishappens.all.the.damn.time.We'vebeentoldmultipletimestomakeourproductsshittiersopeople
buymore.Insteadwebuildbrandloyaltybymakingreallystoutproducts.
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[] falconianbostonian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'taconspiracythishasalreadybeenproventobetrue.
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[] FoldingUnder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mycoffeegrinderisabout10yearsold.Iuseitjustabouteverydaytogrindbetweentwoandfourshotsofcoffeeandit'sworking
great.Plottwist:itcost$225.00
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[] randomstudman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youareabsolutelycorrect.Agoodexampleofthisistheautomobileindustry.Didyouknowthatcommercialtrucksveryoftenget1
millionmiles?Thisisdietoacouplereasonsthefirstistheyareproperlymaintainedthesecondisthattheyarebuilttolast.A
commercialmanualtransmissionwillindeedlastamillionmileshoweveritmustbemaintained.Asecondgoodexampleofthis.Is
americancarsmadeinthe90s.GMpurposelymadetheircarslastnolongerthan180200kmiles.Shorttermtheyrakedinthecash
longtermithasdestroyedtheirreputations.IamanAmericanandIabsolutelydespiseAmericancars.WiththeexceptionofFord.All
theAmericancarcompaniesreallyscrewedtheconsumersinthe90sandarenowrushingtobuildcarsthatlast.MeanwhileJapanese
andKoreancarcompanieshavebeendoinggreat.Theyneverbuiltthiercarstobreak,itisverycommonforaJapanesecarwith
normalmaintenancetobreak300k.
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[] molo1134 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youwant/r/buyitforlife.
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[] LeapYearFriend undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyousellapencilthatneverrunsoutyou'llonlysellsomanybeforeeveryonehasoneandthere'snoneedtobuymore.
That'salsowhycompanieslikeApplecomeoutwithanewiPhoneeveryfewyears.It'slikeplannedobsolescenceexceptyoufeellike
you'regettinganupgraderatherthanjustreplacingitwiththesamething,whichmakesthepersonfeelgood.
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[] Travyplx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youaren'twrong,thingsaremanufacturednowadayswiththeintentofhavingthembreak.
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[] thesneakywalrus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididastintinmanufacturing,itseemslikeplannedobsolescence,butit'snot.
Basically,productsgothroughmuchshortertestingcyclesthantheyusedto,engineersdon'ttestlongenoughtofixcommonfailure
points.Combinethatwiththeabilitytousethinnerandthinnerplasticsastechnologyincreases,andyougetcheapproductswith
multiplepointsoffailurethatlastacoupleyearsbeforequitting.
Inresponsetothis,manufacturers,ratherthanfixingtheseissues,finditmoreprofitabletointroduceanewmodelandsellyouthat.
Obsolescenceisafunctionofcheapmanufacturing,nottheotherwayaround.
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Howaboutspendingtheextramoneyforagoodproduct?
Don'tbesurprisedthatthe80sequivalentofa$200grinderlastsloverthanthe$2030onesyou'rebuying.
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[] LeadFarmer6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeneralMotorshasembracedthisconceptandstupidpeoplekeepbuyingthemwhileHondasandToyotaskeeprunningandrunning.
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Plannedobsolescenceistaughtinbusinessschool...it'snoconspiracy.
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[] sandiskmicrosd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youbuyshitgrinders.Minehas9200shotsontheclockandtheburrsstillseemreallysharp.IsuspectIwon'tfeeltheneedtoreplace
themuntilanother5000shots
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Don'tfuckinggetmestartedonmotherfuckinggoddamnCANOPENERS!
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[] Dementat_Deus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youneedtocheckout/r/BIFL.
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Ithoughtthiswasaconsequenceofthedepression?
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[] LeakyLycanthrope undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'salsothesimplefactthatthemarketwantedandcontinuestowantcheapergoods.Iftheydon'tmake'emliketheyusedto,it's
becausewethepeopledemandedtheyreducequalityinordertopassthesavingsontous.
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[] Tubaka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WillyLomanwouldcertainlyagree
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Nah,that'sjustbecausewestartedallowingcheapjunkmadewithslavelabortobeimportedfromChinafor80%lessthanwhat
peoplehadbeenpayingforUSmadequalitygoods,basicallydestroyingthemanufacturingbaseintheUnitedStates.Now,ask
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yourselfWHYthegovernmentallowed,evenpushedforthattohappen?
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[] wolfej4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myhighschooleconteacherhadthesametheory,andIstillthinkaboutittothisday.Myparentshaveablenderthey'vehadsince
beforeIwasborn1992anditstillworkseveryweekendwhenweuseittomakepancakes.
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[] whorl123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veburnedoutmypasttwographicscardslessthanamonthafterthetwoyearwarrantyexpired.Needlesstosay,Iboughtathree
yearwarrantythistime.I'llkeepyouupdatedonhowitallplaysout.
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[] torpic_spiral undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithappenedwithlightbulbs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
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[] dalifemme77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude.Getintovideogamesorsomething.Andstopdoingcoke.
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[] Snuzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Carsaretheperfectexampleofthis.Ohyouwanttokeepitforforever?Planonreplacingthismadeforthiscaronlypartyearlyfor
millions.
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[] Reddit_Moviemaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Checkthedocumentarythelightbulbconspiracy.
"Apolicyofplanningordesigningaproductwithanartificiallylimitedusefullife,soitwillbecomeobsolete,thatis,unfashionableorno
longerfunctionalafteracertainperiodoftime.Almostallelectricalandmechanicalproductsarepredesignedwithlimitedlifespansoa
continueddemand&consumptionisgenerated.Moderneconomyisdesignedwithobsolescenceinmindinaworldoffiniteresources
whichcausesgreatharminshortandlongterm."
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[] themcp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
years.
Mymicrowaveis25yearsold.(Itsfanisstartingtohaveproblems,IcouldprobablyfixthatbutI'vehatedthethingfor25years,soI'll
probablyreplacethewholethingwhenitfinallydies.)Mymixerandblenderareabout30yearsold.Irecentlythrewoutmy20yearold
toasterovenbecauseitwasbeatupanduglyandnoteasytoclean,butitdidwork.
Myfatherrecentlygotridofhis30yearoldmicrowave,becausehewastiredofhavingtoopenitupandreplacethefuseinitevery5
years,andbecausemicrowavesactuallydolosestrengthovertime.
Iwasquitesadaftermygrandparentsdiedtolearnthattheyhadgottenridoftheirtoasterayearortwobefore,whichthey'dboughtin
theearly40s.Okay,everydecadeortwoitneededtheheatingcoilsreplaced,butthatonlytookafewminutes.Iwantedthatthing!
Thereareafewreasonsthingsthingsusedtolastandnowtheyoftendon't.
Thingsaremademorecheaplynow.Mymicrowavewasthecheapest,crappiestoneyoucouldbuyatthetime,anditwas$120.
Youcangetamicrowavefor$40nowifyoushophardenough.ThatmicrowaveIpaid$120for25yearsagowouldprobablysell
forthesameamountifsomeonemadethesamemodeltoday,andnobodywouldbewillingtopaythatforatiny,underpowered
microwave...evenifitdoeslast25years.Sopeoplebuythe$40microwaveandtheygetwhattheypaidfor.
Sometimesplannedobsolescenceisatradeoffforreliability.Forexample,acarmaybedesignedsothatitwillneednoengine
maintenanceatall(otherthanoilchanges)for7to10years,butthisisdonebymakingpartsthatareveryhardtobreakbut
whichweardownslowly...soattheendofthisdesignlifetimealotofthingswillsuddenlygowrongallatonce.
Sometimesplannedobsolescenceisatradeoffforotherfeatures.Forexample,sewingmachinesusedtoweighaton(enough
thatyou'dinstallitinapieceoffurniturethatyouwouldn'tmove)andrequirefrequentoiling.It'snowpossibletomakeasewing
machinewhichisverylightandthuseasytoputinaclosetwhenyoudon'tneedit,ortakeitwithyoutoyourweeklysewing
circleandwhichrequireseitherverylittleoilingornooilingatall.Thisisdonebymakingitwithplasticpartswhichwillslowly
weardown,andeventually(dependingonfrequencyofuse)itwillwearoutandyou'llhavetohaveitrepaired,orreplaceit.
Somethingswemayhavehadalongtimemaybebecausewerepairedthem,likemydad'smicrowaveormygrandfather's
toaster.Doyouknowhowtorepaira1940stoasterwhenitdies?Ido,butonlybecausemygrandfathertaughtme,andI'dbet
noneofmyfriendsdoexcepttheprofessionalelectronicsrepairman...butitonlycost$3tofixit,soitwasworthit.Doyouknow
howtorepaira25yomicrowavewhenitdies?NeitherdoI,andmyfriendtheprotellsmeit'snotworthfixing.Asidefromthecost
effectivenessoffixingthings,wejustdon'thavemuchofafixitculturethesedays,peoplewouldratherjustgetanewonethan
fixtheoldone.Afterall,thenewonewillhaveallthelatestwhizbangfeaturesandrunthelatestsoftware,right?
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Somethingswemaywanttofix,becauseoftheirageandcost,maynotbeveryfixable,becauseforalotofmodernstuff,the
manufacturingmethodthatismostcosteffectiveorproducesthebestproductmayresultinahighlyintegratedunitsuchthatif
onethingbreakstheonlyrealsolutionistoreplacemoreorlessthewholething.Forexample,Appleisbasicallybettingthat
mostiphoneswilloutlasttheirwarranty,becausethey'resointegratedthattheymoreorlessconsistofthecase,thebattery,and
everythingelse.(AndforallIknowthebatterymayhavebeenintegratedintothe"everythingelse"bynow.)That'swhyifyour
iphonebreaksandyoubringitinunderwarranty,theyjustgiveyouanewone.(Anaside:hereinMA,wehavealawwhichsays
youcandemandtheyrepairtheoneyouboughtinsteadofreplacingit.I'mverycuriouswhathappensifanyoneevertriesto
insistonthat...Ibettheycan'tdoit.)
Andyeahsometimestheyjustwanttheirproducttodieinacoupleyearssoyou'llhavetobuyanewone.PersonallyIbelieve
Appledeliberatelymakestheirphonesgettooslowafteracoupleyears(afterthewarrantyexpires)soyou'llupgrade.
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[] cark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plannedobsolescenceiswayolderthanthe80s.Heck,Irememberpeoplecomplainingaboutitduringthe80s=)
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[] PM_DEM_bOObys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisactuallyprettybasicbusinesstactics.Imean,Iguessitcouldbeconsideredaconspiracy,butit'sstandardpractice,especiallyin
anythinginvolvingtechnology.
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[] Xeypax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisreallyjustabaseruleofconsumerism.
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welljusttoclarify,plannedobsolescenceisamodelthatrequirestwothings.A)anunderstandingofwhereandhowfartechnologyis
headingandB)amonopolyoverthetechnologytopreventothersfromexposingthecabal.
forthesakeofmostmoderntechnologythiswouldmeanthatamoderninventionwouldhavetobeheldoffatleast23timesaslongas
itactuallytakestofieldareliablemodel(prototype).currently,andespecially,withcellularphonesthedisparityisinarangeof
efficiencyandbatterychemistry.
ifyouhavea90wattCPUitwouldn'tworkwellinaphoneunlessyouhada20kgbattery.howeverifyouhavea6wattprocessor(atthe
sameGhz)theefficiencysellstheproduct,simplybecausethebatteryismagnitudeslighter,andtheyearoveryearadvancessell
them.
thebigindicatorofplannedobselecsanceiswhenadeveloperstartssellinghardwarefeaturesthatcanbeefficientlyemulatedonany
otherplatform(asidefromobviouscopyrightinfringement)withoutanyimpact.
itsasifsayingthatthePS2isstillcompetitiveeventhoughwecanemulateitonPC.iftheconsolemarketwasthatstagnantthere
wouldbeotheroptionsintheworksifnotalreadydeployed.inthisregardIdismissmostclaimsofplannedobselessenceasbunk.
competitioniskingindecidingwherestagnationoccursyetstill,monopolisticmanufacturerscanstillreignoverproprietary,
trademarked,technologyforasetperiod.
Iwillsaythatthereisaplannedcabalinplacethatmakesthecomponentsinstalledinmostelectronicslastasetamountofoperational
hours.betweenthe1960sandtheearly70sthecomponentlifespanofanaveragetransistorhalvedandhascontinuedtohalveover
thecomingyears.compairedtotheratsnestofdeadbugwiredTVstotheintegratedcircuitsthelifespanofcomponentsdecidesthe
averagelifespanofthewhole.sure,youcouldreplace35blown"fuses"inanoperationalcircuitbutthecombinedlifespanofthatpiece
ofelectronics(redundancy)establishesthehalflife.
theinstalledcomponentsincuttingedgeelectronicsusetheshortestlifespancomponents.thisdousenotmean,empirically,that
manufacturersareinonitbutsomuchthattheyhavebeendupedintoinstallingthosesamecomponentsorsufferperformanceloss.
theyarestillbetterthanthepreviousgen.
scienceisathingofoverallprogressnotoneselfservinginvestmentinoneidea.whileourmoderntechnologyislackingtousitsthe
bedrockoffuturetechnologythatwilllaunchusfarther.ifwehadtowaitadecadeormoreforaricegrainvoltageregulatortobecome
feasiblewe'dbewaitingalongtime,muchlikebatterytechorsolarpower.
assuchweinvestearlytofundourfutureinthefieldsofstudythatarerelevanttoourinterests(likegettingoffoffossilfuels)as
consumerswerelyonwhatthemanufacturersgiveus.ifwe,asawhole,wheremorepicky,thentheywouldprovidemorereasonably
reliableproducts.
whilewehavea90daypartsandlaborreturnpolicythisisnotgoingtohappenthoughbecauseitmakeseverythingdisposablewithin
aguaranteedperiodofacceptableownership.iftheextendedownershipwasgrantedinlaw(whereasawaranteefor90days
representedthehalflifeofownershipv.yearsinreturn)therepairbusinesswouldbloomandthemanufacturerswouldinvestinmore
robustelectronics.
wearethedupes.
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RemembertheOliveSolution.Anexecutivehastocutcornersandtheydecidetoremoveasingleolivefromeachsaladandsave
millions.Theboardthenasksthemtoduplicatethesolution,andtheycan't.
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Isitmorelikelythatbackinthedaytheyusedmoresolidmaterialandnowusecheaper?Iproposeanexample.Iboughtaslantdouble
edgerazormadeinGermanyyearsbeforeIwasbornandamoremodernversion.Nomovingparts,buttheolderversionusesChrome
platedbrassandthenewerversionuseschromeandgoldplated"potmetal".Theoldversionisalittledull,butstillworks.Thenew
versioniscorrodingbecauseofthinplatingandwhentheplatinghasabreach,thecheappotmetal,whichismostlyzinc,corrodesona
dime.
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[] pedler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canadiantire,appliancesforlife,bitches
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[] lifejustice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasanelectricalengineerforoneoftheleadingconsumerproductmanufacturersintheworld.Somepeoplelovedourproducts.
Somepeopledidn'tlikethematall.
Weneverworkedforplannedobsolescence.Weworkedtomakekickassproductsthathadcuttingedgetechnologythatwouldbeas
openendedaspossibleforfutureupgradeability.
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[] kman418 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisishowapplehasmadebillionsfromtheiPhone.Youthing3gcouldn'thavebeenpartofthefirstone?Theypurposelyleave
featuresoutsothezombiescomeback15monthslater
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[] Thenadamgoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imanufactureawidevarietyofconsumerproducts.
It'snotplannedobsolete.Wejustdon'tconsiderhowlongsomethingwilllast.We'rejusttryingtomakeitcheapenoughsopeoplewill
actuallybuyit.
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[] paintedmom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthatisonefactorbutIalsobelievethatourcollectivedesiretobuymore,cheaplyhashadasmuchofaneffect.
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Wellinordertomakethingscostlesscompaniesusecheapermaterialstobuildthem.Forexamplemy1980skitchenaidmixerhas
metalgearsbutmyfriend'snewerkitchenaidhadplasticparts.
Youcanstillfindthingsthatlastalongtimeyoujusthavetopayapremiumforit.
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[] BeardRex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thetrickistomakeaproductthatfunctionsreallywellevenifitbreaksafteronlyashorttime.
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[] nessy23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myapologiesifsomebodyalreadypostedthis,butthereisadocumentarycalled,"thelightbulbconspiracy"thatdetailsthisissue
fantastically.
Essentiallymanufacturersclaimedtheirbulbcompanieswouldgobankruptiftheymadebulbsthatwouldlast.
Inthedocthereisafirestationthathasalightbulbthathasbeenonfor100years.Wehavethetechnology...
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[] pantstickle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thingsaremadecheaplynow.That'swhyyouownmorethingsthanyourgrandparentsdid.
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Iguaranteethatyourparents'coffeegrindercostthem10xasmuchasyours.
Myparentspaid200foramicrowave~20yearsagothat'sstillworkingtoday.Iboughta20onethatlastedaround18months(only
guaranteedfor12).Inowhaveamoreexpensiveonethat'slastedseveralyears.
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[] SaavikSaid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vegotamicrowavefrom1981thatstillworks.TheoneIactuallyuseisfromthe90sandthedoorhasbroken.
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[] jechapk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneofmyparentsfriendswastryingtogethispoolfilterproductintoWalMart.Hisproductisdesignedtolastaverylongtime(hehas
unitsinstalledthathaverequirednomaintenancefromthe70'sand80's)WalMarttoldhimheneededtoredesignhisproducttolast
nomorethan3yearsbeforetheywouldagreetostockit.
HenolongerdesirestodobusinesswithWalMartbecauseofthis
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[] Flemz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheLightBulbConspiracyisaninterestingdocumentaryonthis
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[] JDubber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkithasmoretodowiththefactthatAmericansnowadaysaremoreandmoreobsessedwithbuyingthingsascheaplyaspossible
insteadofgettingthebestproduct.Soinsteadofbuyingthehundreddollarcoffeegrinderthat'smadeinAmerica,they'llbuythetwenty
dollaronefromChina.
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[] Grande_Yarbles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IcanspeaktothisoneasIusedtodevelopsmallkitchenapplianceswithsomeofthelargestspecialistfactoriesinChina.
Newproductsareactuallyquiteexpensivetodevelopseveralhundredthousanddollarsjustfortoolingaloneplusdesign,development
andtestingcosts.Retailersandbrandscan'taffordtohaveahugeamountofcustomersreturningproductsduringthewarrantyperiod
asitwouldquicklyeatupmargins.Andforsmallkitchenappliancesmarginscanbeverythin.
Toensurethatproductsdon'tbreakearlythereisweartestingmachinesthatautomaticallytestprototypestoensurethattheydon't
failduetothemotor,overheating,leaking,orwhatnot.Ifprototypesdon'tsurviveacertainamountofhours/cyclesthentheyfailand
changesmustbemade.
Theissueisthatthesedayswithretailbeingsocompetitivecostshavebeentakenoutofproductsuntiltheycanachieveaminimum
standardoftestingandthat'sit.Ifamotorcanbeswappedwithanothertosaveadollarthenthat'smoremargin,evenifitmeansa
20%reductioninlifespan.
Thisisthecaseforalotofconsumerproductsnow.Therearestandardssetupfortestingandsafetyandmostcompaniesaimtodo
theveryminimuminordertosavemoney.Yearsagowhenbrandsweremuchstrongertheycouldaffordtoinvestmoreinqualityand
stillretainstrongmarketshare.
Andofcoursetherearecaseswherethingssimplygowrong.Whenretailersandbrandsdon'thaveagoodrelationshiporcontrolwith
supplierscornerscanbecut.Forexampleasuppliersubstitutingcheapercomponentsduringproduction.Somelargewellknown
retailersarealwaysplayingwhackamolewiththosetypesofissuesastheyhaveveryweekrelationshipswithsuppliers.Ifanother
factoryquotesafew%lessthenthebusinessgoesaway,soitprovidessomeincentiveforthecurrentsuppliertocheatandgetas
muchastheycanbeforebusinessmoveson.
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[] afcagroo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'taconspiracytheory.It'sengineering.
Forexample,Iusedtoworkinthesemiconductorbusiness,mostlyinmicroprocessorsofvarioustypes.Customerscareabout
performance/features,price,andquality/reliability.
BackwhenIstartedinthebusiness,itwaspossibletohavegreatperformanceatacompetitivepriceandstillmakeaproductthat
wouldlastlongerthananyonewouldeverwanttousethem.Butinthelast10yearsorso,that'schanged.Thetechnologyissuchthat
youjustcan'tmakeahighperformanceproductatareasonablepriceandexpectittolast100years.Sowe'ddoalotofcareful
engineeringtotrytomakesurethattheproductwouldusuallylastareasonableperiodoftime,ontheorderof715years.Butwhen
youdothat,asmallsubsetofthepartswillonlylast23years.(Andaverysmallsubsetwillonlylastafewmonths.)
It'sprettymuchunavoidable.Itreallyisn'tevilcorporationsmaximizinghowsoonyouwillhavetobuyreplacementparts.Itisthe
outcomeofacompetitivemarketplaceandverydifficultengineeringproblemstoovercome.
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Occam'sRazor.
Companiesarealwayslookingforsavingsandacompetitivemarketforcescompaniestoaggressivelylookforsavingsovertime.Ifa
companycansavemoneybyswitchingfromsteeltoplastic,theywill,andthelongtermreliabilityisnotanimmediateforceorfactor
affectingthedecisionmakingofthecompanybecauseitdoesn'thaveanimmediatefeedbacklooptothedecisionmakers.Saving
costsdoes.
Internationalizationoftheeconomyhasonlymadethisworsemanufacturingmovingoverseasandcompetitorsabletosavemoneyon
cheaplabor.Itisarealforcesocompanieslookforsavingswherevertheycangetthem,theircompetitorsgetitfromlabor,theygetit
fromprocessandmaterialssavings.
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[] IrisesAndLilacs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thinkaboutitthough.Thefirstmicrowaves,bluRay,DVDplayerswhateverwereexpensive!Hundredsandhundredsofdollarsfor
itemsthathavewayfewerfeaturesthanmodernequivalents.Theywerewellbuilt,solidmachines.Youcanonlyhavetwooutofthe
three:cheap,goodquality,quicklymade.I'mguessingthatyourparentscoffeegrinderifitwasaweddinggiftwasdefinitelynotcheap.
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[] floidmaywhether undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwastalkingtoaguyatpickandpullaboutmy92'VolvoandwhenheheardI'veonlygot215,000milesonmine,hetoldme,"800,000
left."
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[] IHNE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisalsohastodowithcheaperlaborfromothercountriesandcheaperproductsduetodecreasedsupplycombinedwithmore
substancesbeinghardertoobtainduetostupidlawssignedandvotedonbysheepvoters
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[] omni_whore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebrokenshittonsofcoffeegrinders,mostofthemsuck.Yougottagetthedankcuisinartone
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Maybeyou'rebuyingshitcoffeegrinsersandyourparentsweregiftedaqualityone.That'sapossibilitytoo.
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[] pepelepepelepew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisisusuallyoverstated.alotofthingsarejustshitproducts.forcostreasons.
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[] MikeFatz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsaVerizonemployeeIcouldn'tagreewiththismore.
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[] Navel_Linty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theworstpartiswe,asasociety,demandedthis.Wedemandedproductsatacheappriceandcompaniesrespondedbymaking
cheapproducts.Theyknow,andyouknow,andIknowthatcheapproductsdon'tlast.
Essentially,we,asasociety,demandeddisposableproductsandnowwebitchbecausethey'recheaplymadeandbreakafterashort
duration.
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[] bythog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youneedtobuybettergrinders.I'veusedminetwicedailyforthepast2yearsandithasn'tshownanywearorcracking.Hell,the$10
grinderIusedbeforemycurrentonestillworks,althoughithasbeendowngradedtoaspicegrinder.
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[] amandayahh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msuperlatetothisparty,butmyparentsspent$8001,000intoday'smoneyonamicrowavein1980.Stillworkslikeit'snew.
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[] FenrisFrost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisessentiallyApple'sentirebusinessmodel.
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[] Hybrazil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'taconspiracy.I'vemetanengineerwho'sjobitwastomakeaproductfailafteracertainamountoftime.
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[] GodOfAtheism undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Morerealisticinterpretation:Productsaremadewithlowerqualitymaterialnowadaysinanattempttosavemoney.Thisresultsinthose
sameproductsnotlastingaslong.Compareoneofthevacuumcleanersfromthe50'stoonefromtoday.Oftentheoldervacuumsare
serviceableandworkincrediblywellsolongasmaintenanceiskeptup,whileneweroneshavecrappypartsthatdon'tlastnearlyas
long.
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[] iloveapple314159 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyNanaisusingahairdryershereceivedasaweddingpresentabout55yearsago.Shehashadnewones,buttheybreakaftera
yearorso,sonowshejustusesheroldone.
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Thisisafactactuallyandnotreallyatheoryanymore.
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Myparentshaveacrockpot,handmixer,canopener,fryer,vacuumcleaner,pots&pans,andasetofglassesanddishesfromtheir
weddingin1976thattheystilluseeveryday.IusedtheirhandmixeronThanksgivingthisyear.Thatshitjustwon'tdie.Theyalsogota
toasterovenasaweddingpresent(becausetheirfirstapartmentdidn'thaveafullkitchen)thattheydidn'treplaceuntil1996.
I'vegonethrough2toastersand2canopenersin10years,butthecrockpotIgotasaweddingpresent8yearsagoisstillgoing
strong.Theygavemethatheavymonsterofavacuumcleanerwhenimovedintomyfirstapartment,anditstillworkedgreatbutwas
stupidlyheavy.Icouldn'twaittoreplaceitaftermywedding!
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[] sinsyder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisalsoatheoryintheautomotiveindustryfortheUSmanufacturesmakinghorriblydesignedcarsinthe70's/80'sinorderto
keeppeopleinaconstantstateoffinancing.
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[] SleepWouldBeNice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkit'splannedobsolescenceasmuchasMooresLawisprogressingsoquicklythatwithinafewyears,ourphonesand
laptopsreallyareslowoldpiecesofcrap.Otherthingslikemicrowavesandvacuumcleanerslastalotlongerthanmostpeoplerealize.
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[] frederic91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatisnotaconspiracytheory.
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[] emhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sadlythisiswhathappenstoallthefoodIbuy.it'sappallingthatnoonehasspokenupabouttheissueyet,consideringit'ssucha
hugeproblem
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Ialsothinkinternalcomponentsaremoreoftenmadeofflimsierinexpensivematerials
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[] cakeandbeer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereneedstobesomekindoflegislationrequiringacompanytoreplaceproductsforfreeiftheydon'tlastacertainamountoftime,to
createanincentiveformakingdurableproducts.Notbecausecustomersaregettingrippedoff(althoughweprobablyare)butbecause
thispracticeiswreakinghavocontheenvironment.
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[] SuperPuffin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldgiantcorporationsmakeshoddyproductsthatbreakorwhatever,justsoyougooutandbuytheirbrandnewshinyshoddy
productthat'lldothesame?Imeanit'snotliketheywanttocontinuereapinginthedollarswiththatandtheirbullshit'you'reafucking
poorschlub'campaignifyoudon'tbuysomethingbetterthanyourfriends,familyandneighborstocontinuedirectingtheconsumerist
claptrapnarrative./s
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[] Sibert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sometheoriessayit'snecessairytokeeptheeconomyrunning.Ifnothingbreaksinanindustrywherenotalotofinnovationispossible
themarketwillgetsaturatedandcompaniesinthoseindustrieswillgobankrupt,becausethere'snoincomingcashflow.
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[] fcukgrammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadthesameLCDtvfor5years,stillworksgreat.
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[] fcukgrammer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadthesameLCDtvfor5years,stillworksgreat.
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[] hatillathenun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisIsthereasonwhenubuyaphonechargerthewiresthataresosmalltheyarenearlyimpossibletosodder,orthecircuitboardon
urshittyspeakeriscoveredinblackcement
Soinsteadofbeingabletofixiturself,ugotothestoreandbuyanotherfortwodollars
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[] Stupid_Llamas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoesmygrandma'smercurystillrunlikeagemafter40yearsandmy2011needed2kofworklessthan1000milesAFTERmy
warrantyexpired?
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It'snotaconspiracytheory,it'sanacceptablebusinessmodel.:(
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[] bones_and_love undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Curious,whatpricepointwereyourgrinders?Whatgrinderdoyourparentsown?
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[] lEatSand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearemanufacturersthatmakeproductsspecificallytocatertoparanoidlunaticslikeusthough,likeMoccamasterforfiltered
coffee.I'm26andcantrememberatimethatthingwasn'tchuggingoutthegoodstuff.
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Canconfirm.Source:WentthroughapairofLogitecheadphonesthatwouldbreakinthesameexactspotafteraboutayear.Also
ownedafewSonyproductsthatwereknowntoessentiallyselfdestructaftertwoyears.
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Ifyouwantsomethingtolast,makeityourself.Dosomeresearch,learnwhatyou'redoing.
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[] jeaguilar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'smyconspiracytheorythatdoesn'trequireaconspiracy.Plannedobsolescence,andconspicuousconsumerismingeneral,are
responsibleformakinginflationvirtuallynonexistentintheUnitedStates.Partoftheinflationcycledependsonthepsychological
uncertaintythatcomesfromreplacementoflongtermpurchases.But,theconsumerhasbeentrainedtoexpecttowholesalereplace
goods.Consequently,thefearthatleadstoinflation(especiallywhenthereisso,somuchM1moneysittingaround)isoffsetbyan
expectationofspendingonmediumtermgoods.
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[] Sounders_Till_I_Die undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mybestexampleofthisisski/snowboardequipment.Theindustrystandardforfullfunctionalityis40daysofnormalusepriortothe
equipmentbeingsufficiently"broken"astorequirerepair.Your"average"personskis/snowboard10daysayear,soa4yearlifespanis
fairlyrespectableinanindustrywheregeargetsredesignedannually.
Itsalsowhyprofessionalsandpeoplewhoareour80daysayearareofferedsuchdrasticdiscounts,theywillrunthroughtheusable
lifeoftheequipmentmuchfaster.
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[] mediocrecupid82 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotaconspiracyonlybecauseit'ssowellknowntobetrue.Iwenttoanengineeringschoolandweweretaughtplanned
obsolescencemanytimes.
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[] SnakesOnAShip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_engineering
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[] mercert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonethat1)isworkingwithproductdesignersatthemomentand2)hasabackgroundinengineering,thisissimplyfalse.
Thereisatradeoffincomponentpriceanddurability,andcompaniespickapointalongthatspectrumthatbestservesthemarket
they'retryingtosellto.NASA'scoffeemakersand$15collegestudentmarketedmakersaredesigneddifferently.
Also,it'dbehardtodesignthingstopurposefullybreakataspecifictime.You'dhavetoactivelyaddincomponentsthattriggera
breakdown.Noonedoesthat.It'sjustacceptedthattheseelectronicsareparticularlysensitiveandwillgetfuckedovertwoyearsworth
ofuse.Itisn'tcommonpracticetobuiltacircuitthatselffriesorhoweverthiswouldwork.
ThoughI'msurespecificcompanieshavetriedsomethingalongthoselinesorworse,itisn'tawidespreadpractice.
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Yeathisoneisntconspiracy,oneofthereasonwehadtheGreatDepressionwasbecuaseeverythingmadewasprettymuch"durable
good"Oncetheyrealizedthatwasn'tagoodmodeltheystartedusingalotmoreplasticandstuffthatwouldbreakeasier.Likewhen
grandmasstoveandfridgestillworkedafter60yearswithlittletonoupkeep.TheyevenbroughtitupinhighschoolUShistoryand
earlyUShistoryclassesincollege.
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[] echolog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyeah.Thereasonthingsaremadecheaperthesedaysisbecausecheapmaterialsare...well,cheap.Plustheydon'tlastaslong
socustomershavetoupgrademoreoften.
Commonsense.
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[] Stranger371 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plasticgearsinkitchenmachines,forfuckssake.
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[] theotherghostgirl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly.Ihaveawashingmachinethathastheselittleplasticnibsthataretheonlythingkeepingthewheelsonthetoprackfrom
comingofftrack.If'mprobablygoingtobuildreplacementpiecesoutofceramicbecausethedamnthingskeepcominglooseand
fallingontotheheatingcoilinthere.
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[] scotscott undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostthingsaren'tshittyonpurposetherejustshittybecausetheirshitty.Andallofthethingsthathavelastedalongtimeandarestill
withusarestillwithusbecausetheywerethethingsthatweren'tshittyfromthattime.We'vealwaysmadestuffthatdidn'tlastverylong
it'sjustthatit'sallgonesowelookandeveryexampleofaproductfromthepastisanexampleofawellbuiltproductthatsurvivedso
weassumethatallofthemwerebuiltwell.Thisiscalledsurvivorshipbias
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[] Wilcows undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahregardingthisI'mprettysurethatappleheadphonesareLITERALLYmadefrombiodegradableplastics.I'mnotevenkidding.
Thatstuffjustdegradesinabout8months.Always.Youcanjustpushyournailsthroughthecordmaterial
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[] RichardTheGr8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereasonplannedobsolescenceisathingismostlybecauseofthegreatdepressionintheUS.Peoplestoppedbuyingthings,yes
mainlybecauseofmoney,butwhentheyhadmoremoneytheystillweren'treallybuyingthingsbecauseeverythingtheybought15
yearsagostillworked..Youcan'tsellafridgetoamanwhoalreadyhasafridgethat'sbeenworkingfor15yearsandshowsnosignof
stopping.Sotoincreaserevenuetheymadethingsworsebasically.Keycomponentsbuiltfromcheapmaterials.Theresalsoahuge
racketgoingonwithrepairswhereyouwillbecharged100etctogeta"majorfault"fixedwhereinrealityitisasmallcomponentthat
enablesabigfeature.
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[] AJTTOTD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LookupthehistoryofSegways.Version1wasdesignedandcreatedbyengineerstheylastedforeverandhadlyhadany
breakdowns.Version2,onceboughtoutbyanentrepreneur,andfollowingversionswereofsignificantlylowerqualityrequiringatonof
maintenance.Certainpeoplewantthejobdonerightandotherswantaquickbuck.You'reabsolutelyrightwiththeplanned
obsolescence.
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[] Dat_Ass_Cancer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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ThisisoneI'vealwaysbelievedin.Imalsoinmy20sandIseeiteverywhere
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[] roboticbees undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evernoticehowgadgetsalwaysseemtobreakjustafterthewarrantyhasexpired?
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[] Nualaevan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mygrandfatherusedtoworkinahouseholdvacuummachinefactoryinthe60s/70s.Heendedupquittingafteryearsofworkingthere,
becausethecompanydesignedspecificpartsofthevacuumtobreakafterafewuses.Ibelieveit'scommonknowledgeforcompany's
tosacrificequalityover'quantitysold'oftheproduct.
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[] thatsuper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Afriendofminewasworkingonaprojectacoupleyearsbackwherehewasdesigningrazorbladesforacompanytodullaftera
certainnumberofuses.Hewouldn'ttellmewhowithoutsigninganNDA.
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[] FilterAccount69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldcostmoremoneytodesignthethingtobreakthantodesignitcheaply.Evenifyousellamillionunitsyoustillneedaprofit
margin.Ifyourartificialbreakingsystemcosts7.5%ofthemanufacturingcostextratoimplementthengoodbyeprofitmargins.Thereis
asuchthingasplannedobsolescencebutnotinthewayyouarethinking.ForexampleUniversitytextbookshaveplanned
obsolescencewhentheyreleaseaneweditionthatyouforcestudentstobuythenextyear(assumingtheneweditiondoesnothave
substantialchangescomparedtotheoldone).
Ifyouspendmoremoneydesigningyoursystemtopurposelyfailyouleaveagapinyourproductforacompetitortoundercutyou
withoutsaidsystem,theyjusthavetousecheapmaterialstomakeit.
Therealanswerispeoplelikebeingcheapproductsthinkingtheyaregettingagooddeal,plusthelessregulatedmanufacturing
environmentsofoutsourcedgoods(chinaandothercountrieswhichdon'thavethesameQCprocessasNorthAmericaorEurope).
Source:Workforacompanythatsellscheapstuffinhighquantities.
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[] ObsceneGesture4u undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhadaRazorphonewhileincollege.OnedaywhenIgethomefromclassIthrowmyphoneonthebedaftermakingacall.WhenI
comebackfromthebathroomandgrabmyphoneitnolongerhasasignalandhassomeerrormessageonit.WhenItakeittoAT&T
theytellmethere'snothingthatcanbedoneandIneedtobuyanewphone.
NormallyI'mnotaconspiracytheoristbutconsideringI'vethrownmyphoneontothebedrepeatedly,withnoproblems,andAT&Ts
responseIfeelasignalwassenttomyphoneandtoldtoshutdownsinceitwasseveralyearsoldatthetime.Ihavenoevidencefor
thisbuttomeitjustmakessense...
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[] wonkywonka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
coughanyiDevicecharger/cablecough
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[] cornpwn12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveapplereleasessoftwareupdateswhentheycomeoutwithanewphonethatturnsyourotherwisegoodiphoneintoa
paperweight
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[] MrTheodore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
everything'smadeinchinanowbycuttingcornerstomakeitascheapaspossible,itshouldn'tbeasurprise
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[] mlmayo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
years.
Ithinkit'smoreaboutprofitabilityintheneartermthatdrivesthiseffect.Manufacturingwithplasticandglueismoreprofitablethan
usingdurablematerialslikemetals.
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PrettysureifIhadanapliancebreakmorethanonceayearIwouldnotkeepbuyingthemorconcideritto''worksforjustlongenough
thatconsumerswillbuyanewonefromyouwhenitbreaks''
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Haveyouconcideredapestleandmoarteroramechanicalgrindermaybe...
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[] HumanBroth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IPHONELIGHTNINGCABLES!!!
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[] mrpopenfresh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotaconspiracytheory,hellitisn'tevenanopensecret.It'sstandardindustrypractice.Noonispretendingthattheplasticpart
inyourfridgeisbetterthanthemetaloneitreplaced.
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[] YourWizardPenPal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Invehiclesorotherthingsthatrequiremaintenance,I'darguethatit'sanidealsituation.
Thinkaboutoilchangesevery3000miles.Whatiftheywerealldifferentandallovertheplace?
Havingpartswithaclearlydefinedlifespanisbeneficialtoeveryparty.
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[] chendoguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/buyitforlife
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[] bananapeel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Spendsometimenowbeforeyournextcoffeegrinderbreaks.Trytofindthatexactmakeandmodelthatyourparentshave.Buyiton
ebayorwhatever.
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[] zumx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buyabettergrinder?
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[] toupeira undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ForaclassicexamplereaduponthePhoebuscartelwhichcontrolledthemanufactureandsaleoflightbulbs.
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[] RunningNumbers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmighthavejustboughtaseriesofshittygrinders.I'vehadonefor5yearsandit'sawesome.Eitherthatoryouareburningoutthe
motorsorsomething.
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[] JacobJT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisistrue.Andihateappleformakingtheirphonessogreat,butautomaticallybreakdownafterabout2years.
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[] usernumber36 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lightbulbs.
therearebulbsouttherethathavebeenoperationalfor100years
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[] Charlie24601 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthatsmorealongthelinesofcorporationsmakingitemsoutofshittiermaterialstosavemoney.
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[] captiv8ing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iphonesareprimeexamplesofthis.designedtolast1824months
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[] Intillex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mygrandfatherwasanengineerabsdevelopedthingsforthegovernment,lotsofsmallthings.He'stoldmeinnouncertaintermsthat
he'dsendtheblueprintstothelabtobeprototyped,andhissupervisorwouldcomebackwithliterally"Designthisspecificpartofthe
item/devicetobemorefragile,wewantproductfailureinapproximately45years."Theyusuallychooseaveryinexpensiveparttofail,
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sowhentheendusersentitintoberepairedtheycouldchargeahighprice,andfixasimplepart.Or,theybuyanewunittheysendit
backfora"corecharge"replacethecheappart,andresellitfornearretail.Absolutelydirty...Heleftaveryhighpayingjobbecauseof
that,onlytorealizeit'sindustrywide.
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[] AGFHDG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisafairlycomplicatedsubject,reallyandoftenwhatpeoplecall'plannedobsolescence'couldmoreaccuratelybecalledprogress
orisotherwiseabyproductofcircumstancesoutsideofanyonecompany'sdirectcontrol(asin,marketpressures).Whichnecessitates
the'conspiracy'ofmulticompanycollusiontocontrolmarketsbutinaglobaleconomythat'sanextremelytallorder.Thereare,of
course,examplesofthisexactthinghappeninghistorically.Thelightbulbcartelbeingthebigone,butthat'ssuchadifferenteraandthe
factthatitwasexposedandlegislationhassincebeenenactedtoprovidelegalrecourseforthesethingsandinformationsharingand
globalcommercehasemergedthewayithasmakesitabadexamplefortoday'sworld.
Somethinglikeacoffeegrinderandotherrelativelysimplemachinesarealsobadexamplesbecauseofhowsimpletheyarewherethe
lifetimeoftheproductisadirectconsequenceofitsbuildqualityanddesign.Basicmechanicalstufflikeagrinderorjuicerorwhatever
isaworldapartfromcomplexmechanicalstuffandyetanotherworldapartfromcomplexdigitalcomputertechstuff.Whenyou
combineallofthese,well,itjustgetscomplicated.
Andthat'sbeforeyouevenconsiderthemarketforcesandhowtheyaffectthesethingsandtheconsumerpsychologythatgoesintoit
aswell.It'sjustacomplicatedissueandwhileIdon'tdoubttheremightbesomekerneloftruthtotheidea,andmaybesomelimited
examplesofitoccurringtosomeextent.Theideathatitisawidespreadconspiracyisunlikely.
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[] Shorvok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amuchmorelikelyreasonforthatisthatyourcompanyisconsideredafailureinmodernsocietyunlessyoushowgrowtheveryyear.
Itdoesn'tmatterifyou'remaking$100millioninprofiteveryyear.Nextyearyoubettermakemore.Ifyoumake$100magaininvestors
andstockholderswillquestiontheleadershipofthecompanyorpotentiallyreplacepeople.
Inthisincreasingdesireforprofitabilitytheyfindwaystoearnmore.There'sonlysomuchmarketforcoffeegrinderssotheyoutsource
productionofaparthereorreplaceaworkerwithalowerpaidonethere,orswitchtocheapermaterials.
Thismakestheirprofitsgoup,butthequalityofwhattheyproducegodown.
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[] bn1979 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itdoesn'tmakesenseforacompanyto"buildthemliketheyusedto"anymore.Inthecaseofmachinery,afriendofminehasa
centerlessgrindingbusiness.Hismachineswerebuiltfrom19271945,andwillholdtighttolerancesaswellasanymachineproduced
today.Sure,throughthelast7080yearstheyhaveneededsomerepairsandhavehadsomepartsreplaced,butforthemostpartthey
areoriginal.Itdoesn'tdoacompanyanygoodtobuilda100yearmachinetodaybecausenobodywillwanttopayforthequality,anda
20yearmachineisperfectlysufficient.
Bybuildingthemachinestolast100years,theylostouton34generationsofnewmachinesales.Thereisnoreal"reward"toa
companyfordeliveringthatlevelofquality.
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[] thirdeyebrown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'strueforsomeindustries,USautomakersinthe80sdidplanforthat.NowadaysIthinkalotofwhatlookslike"planned
obsolescence"isjusttheresultofyearsandyearsofreducingcostsbyloweringmaterialqualityandmanufacturingquality.
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[] ilglokta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thosenicelooking,modern,KitchenAidcanopenersateverygrocerystorelasttwomonths.Theoldbarebonesstyleopenermymom
hadthroughoutmyentirechildhoodlastsforever.IfinallyorderedonelikethatoffAmazonseveralyearsagoandit'sinvincible.
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[] kristinez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
moremovingparts=morechancetobreak..
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[] PeterLicht undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iactuallyprefercheaperstuffthatisnotasdurableandthemajorityofpeopledoaswell,atleastsubconsiously.Newproductscome
outallthetimenowadaysandinmostthingsIenjoybuyingmorethanactuallyhavingit.IndustryworksalotlikeevolutionIthinkand
weliveintimesdemandingrapidchanges.Whatisproducediswhatiswanted.
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[] fosterwallacejr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theresisapartofthepynchonnovelgravity'srainbowthatfeaturedatalkinglightbulbasacharacterandaninternationalsyndicateof
lightbulbmakerswhoconspiredtomakelightbulbsaninferiorproductinordertosellreplacementsofthemfordecades
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forallexceptthetalkinglightbulb,itstrue
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[] humansaregods undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IswearIsawathreadonRedditaboutthis,buttheyweretalkingaboutpencilsharpenersinsteadofcoffeegrinders
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Ifyouthinkthisisaconspiracy,thenpleasegotakeabusinessfinanceand/oraccountingclass.
Why?
Becauseeverythingbreakseventually,andguesswhatitcostsmoremoneytomakeaproductthatlastslonger.AndthelasttimeI
checked,businesseslikemakingmoney,whichmeansthereisapointwhereinvestingmoremoneyintoaproduct'slongevityjust
doesn'tmakesenseanymore
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[] darby087 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ithinkitsanaddedbenefittomakingthingscheaper.forthem.plasticwasnotascommonandtheymadethingsoutofmetalwell.not
itsjustcheapplastic.
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[] flashingcurser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howmuchdidyourparentspayfortheirgrinderintoday'sdollars?
I'mgoingtoguessthattheypaidfarmorethanthe4you'vebought.Atthispointyoucouldhavepaid3xasmuchforareallygoodone
andbeenahead.
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Myparentsgotitasaweddinggift.SoI'mnotsurehowmuchitcost.Prettysureitdidn'tcostmuch,asthepersonwhogaveitto
themalsogavethemchinaaswell.Howeverit'snothingfancy.Youcanactuallybuythelatestversionofitfor12dollars
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[] diMario undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,andthatgodguyisinonittoo.Infact,heinventedtheconcept.Hereyouare,finallygettingusedtolifeaftersixty,seventyyears
ofpracticeandthensuddenlypoof,yourbodystopsworking.
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[] MurgleMcGurgle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisbullshit.Meetinggovernmentrequirementsandkeepingproductioncostsaslowaspossiblearetheonlythingsoperations
departmentscaresabout.Cheaperpartsmeanmorefailures.
Thatplusyourparentsdon'tmentionthe4TVstheyburnedthroughorthesafetyoftheircarsorovensetc.Plusmanypeoplewould
ratherthrowsomethingoutotherthanrepairit.
Plannedobsolescencewouldbeincrediblyhardtoengineerwithoutfacingmassiveoffthelinefailures.
tldrPeoplejustwanttothinkthingsusedtobebetter.
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Whatmostpeoplemistakeforplannedobsolescenceisjustcheapparts.
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[] 2059FF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whileplannedobsolescenceisathing,ahugefactoristhefactthatpeopleexpectacoffeegrindertocost$9.99atWalmart,butyour
parentsprobablypaidseveraltimesthatpricefortheirs(adjustedforinflation).
MyparentsboughtacolorTVinthe1970s.Sure,itlastedfordecades.Theyalsopaid$700forit,theequivalentofmorethan$3000
today.
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[] shakakka99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisalsohastodowithcuttingcornersthroughtheuseofplasticsinsteadofmetals,plustheprideofcraftsmanshipthatgotlostinthe
wakeofbigger,quickerprofits.
Andbeforeyoublamethe'megacorporations'forthatlastone,considerhowmuchcompetitionspurredthroughgrowinginter
connectivityinfluencestheneedtoalways"beat"theothercompanytothepunchwithquicker,cheaperwaystogetsomethingout.
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[] FunctionalDrunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotcuttingcorners.It'stheeffectofcompetinginacostcompetitivemarket.Aproductdesignedonthemarginshastomake
buildsacrifices.Solongaspeoplewantthelowestpriceonitems,cheapshitwillbeproduced.Cuttingcornersiswhenaluxury
brandtoutsqualitybuthasthesamecheapdesignunderneathafancyshellofmetalandmarketing.
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[] mike_krombopulos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yesandno,theyprobablypaidalotmoreforthatgrinderthantheywouldhaveotherwise.What'shappeningisinthecomputerage
withCADandFEAengineersaregettingreallyreallygoodatdeterminingdesignlives.If95%ofcustomerswantacoffeegrinderwitha
servicelifeof5yearsbeforetheyloseitordamageitfrommisuse,it'sadisservicetomakeasuperexpensivetomanufacturesturdy
onethatwouldlastfor50years.Alotofthetougherproductsarestillonthemarketthough,probablyalsocheaperthantheyprobably
wouldhavebeen,butfarmoreexpensivethantheonestypicalconsumersbuy.Theproblemisthatpeoplebuytheveryverylowcost
ones,thinkit'sthenormaloldprice,thencryplannedobsolescencewhenitlivesanormalservicelife.
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DudeI'mlike20yearsold.Thegrinderwasgiventothemasagiftinthe80s
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[] Zeakk1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoushouldprobablytakethecostofyourparentscoffeegrinderandconvertitusingaCPIcalculator.Youmightjustberepeatedly
buyingacoffeegrinderthatcostssignificantlylessandisaninferiorgoodtoyourparents'.
So,maybeyoushouldspendmoreonacoffeegrinder.
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Leapfrog
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[] KnownAsGiel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBelgiangovernmenthasveryrecentlysaiditwouldtrytobanthesepracticesintheircountry.Theyhavealreadyorderedstudiesto
bedone
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[] SemoMuscle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthatAppleintentionallymakestheirupdatesmoreandmoretaxingonoldermodeliphonessouserswillbemorelikelytobuya
newermodelphone
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[] bigBastardDude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
theycallitaddedfeatures
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[] Bryanhenry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsnotaconspiracytheorythatsabusinessdecisionthateveryoneagreeson
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[] dantemp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ormaybeoldshitweresimplerandhadlessthingstobrake.
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[] How2999 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisaprovenfact.Thelightbulbcartelisanunequivocalcaseofthat.
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[] Nyrin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisoneismoreofanemergentpropertyofadvancesinindustrialprocesscombiningwithnaturalcurvesofsupplyanddemand
it'snotanintentionalconspiracyasmuchassomethingthatjusthappened.
Modernprocessoptimizescostofmanufacturetoadegreeentirelyunattainableevenafewdecadesago.Savingfractionsofacentper
unitisoftenconsideredcritical.Thiskindofprecisionallowsproductmakerstomathematicallytargetthe"sweetspot"ofcostversus
qualitytooptimizeprofit.Morepeoplebuyitifit'salittlecheaper,evenifbreaksinoneyearinsteadoften(Pratchett'sbootsthing).
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Industryitselfismorecapablethaneverofmakingabsurdlyhighquality(andabsurdlyexpensive)things,butit'snotprofitableinthe
broadconsumermarket.
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[] Clitnibbler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettymucheverymobilephone
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[] sikyon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,itsnotplannedobsolescenceonthepartofmanufacturesitsindifferenceandcheapnessonthepartofmostconsumers.Brands
withdurabilityexistbuttheydon'treignsupremebecausepeopleseesomethingcheapanddecidetobuyit.Soeveryoneracestothe
bottom,andbrandsthatusedtobeawesomeareforcedtocompeteinthisspacetostayaliveaswell.
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[] Oltima undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notatheory.Theyteachaboutthepracticeincollege.TheAmericanautoindustryisoneofthefirstknownindustriestousethis.
Makingcarcomponentsdesignedtobreakafterxamountofuses.ThatmadeforeigncarspopularwhentheyenteredtheUSmarket.
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[] Wess_Mantooth_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
definitelytrueatleastwithlightbulbs
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[] stygeanhugh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveoneIgotfrommymomthatisolderthanmeanditworkslikeachamp.HoweverIhadtobuy4cellphonesinthelasttwoyears.
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[] hurpington undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyIphone4haslasted5yearsandisstillgoing.Itreatitwellthough
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[] ls612 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'venotreallynoticedthiswithhouseholditems.Peoplecomplainaboutthiswithelectronics,notrealizinghowpowerfulexponential
growthisandthatthenewestphonesareliterally10timesmorepowerfulthanaphonefrom3or4yearsago.
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[] datr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sabitofsurvivalbiasgoingonhere.Sureyourparents'haveacoffeegrinderthatstillworksbuthowmanyfromthe
manufacturingbatcharestillaround?Maybebycomparingagainstindividualitemsthatarestillaroundtodayyouareselectingforthe
verymostdurablefromthatbatchandignoringalltheonesthatbroketwentyyearsago.
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[] thoughtfuldude13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'strue.Peoplealwayslamentthatthingsbreakmuchmoreeasierandmoreoftenthesedayscomparedtothe"olddays",but
whydidrepairmenexistbackthen?Appliancesbrokebackthentoo.Ithinkit'smorelikelywearejustexposedtoseeingmore
complaintstodaythankstosocialmedia/theInternet.
Irememberreadingsomeoldscannednewspapersonline.Peoplecomplainedbackinthe1970sthatthingsweren'tmadelikethey
usedtobe.Prettymuchthesamethingastoday.In20years,peoplewillbecomplainingabouthowthingsweren'tmadehowthey
wereusedto...in2015.Andsothecyclecontinues.
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[] yommi1999 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DudeitwaspurposelyinventedbyheisenhowerafterWW2tostimulatetheworldeconomy
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[] Broken_Toys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisismoretheconsumer'sfaultthanthemanufacturers.Theymakewhatwewanttobuy.We,asarule,wantthingsthatcostless.
Theymakethingsascheaplyastheycansowecanspendaslittlemoneyaswecan.
Theupsideisthatpeoplecanhavemorestuffbutthestuffwasbuiltascheaplyastheycouldgetawaywith(literally)sothecrap
breaks.
Theythendiscoveredthatiftheyputafancycoverandaniftynameonthesameshittheycouldchargemoreforitsincemostpeople
buybasedonthesurfaceappearanceofanitemandthetrendybrandname.
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Thecustomerdrivesthemarketandnottheotherwayaround.Ifpeopledidn'tbuythecheapshitinfavorofhigherqualitygoodsata
higherpricethenthemanufacturerswouldproducehigherqualitygoods.
Therearenichemarketswherequalitygoodsarestillbeingproducedandarepricedaccordingly.Actuallytheyareprobablyoverpriced
becausetheircustomerexpectstopayashitloadmoresotheyhappilyoblige.
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[] Nienordir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'smorecomplicatedthanthat,becausenewtechnologiesdroppedmanufacturing&productprices,butmanhours&repair
costsstayedthesame.
Obviouslyyou'regoingtodriveyourexpensivemalfunctioningcarintotheshop.Ifhouseholditemxcosts30$,butcosts20$for
workhours+parts,thenitmakesnosensetoevenattempttorepairit.
Alsoalotmoreproductshavefancyfeatures,microcontrollersandshit,whichmakesrepairsmoreinvolvedthanreplacingasingle
mechanicalpart.Itcouldalsobetheresultofsacrificialpartslikeafuseoraplasticgear,that'ssupposedtofailandprotect
expensiveparts.Repaircostscouldbeafewcents,ifyouknowthatthesepartsexistandifyoucoulddoityourselfwithoutpaying
theextracostsofprofessionalrepair.Itoftenjustdoesn'tmakesensetodesigncheap'throwaway'productsforrepairability,ifit
isn'teconomicanyway.
Thenthere'sfeaturecreep.Sure,youcouldmakeapotentiallyexpensiverepaironyour720p40"tvoryoubuya1080p50"with
somesmartfeaturesforslightlymorethantherepaircostsandgetmoreoutofit..
Finallyforbigappliancesrunningcostscanbeabigissuetoo.Sure,youcouldkeepusingthat60yearoldfurnaceandpaya
fortuneonfueloryoubuyamoreefficientone,thatusesacheaperfuelandsavealotofmoneyinafewyears..
Ifeellikeeveryonewantsmorevaluefromunbreakablestuffandthat'struefortoolsthatyouuserarelyanddon'tmindifthey'rea
bitcumbersome/inefficient.Butthereareplentyofthingsthatyouusedailyor24/7,wereyouwouldbebetterofiftheyactually
breakafterafewyears(unlessyou'redeadbrokeandcan'taffordtoreplacethem).
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[] Broken_Toys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodpoint.
Featurecreepisinteresting.IfindmyselfsometimeswishingthatsomethingthatwasworkingperfectlywellwouldfailsoI
couldjustifytomyselfthatitwasoktoreplaceit.ThiscustomerdrivesthemarketalittlebitIguess.
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[] HiimCaysE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaddonesomereadingaboutthisacoupleyearsagoafterbeingfedupwithcheaptoasters,andthiswasverymuchthe
manufacturers'fault.PostWW2growthintheUSpusheddemandforhouseholdappliancesforthe"ideal"middleclasshome,so
manufacturerswereinaboomofsorts.Globalizationwasadevelopingconceptatthetime,andplaceslikeHongKongbecame
attractivesourcesofcheapmanufacturinginthe'50s,savingappliancecompanieshugeamountsofmoney.Thefactthatquality
andlongevitywerereducedwasanunwantedresultatfirst,buteventuallyitbroughtaboutproductssocheapthatconsumers
endedupaccustomedtothrowingthemawayandbuyingnewones.
Asforthetoaster,IendedupbuyingaDualit.Icouldn'tbehappier.
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[] BetterWithoutThis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Linkforthetoaster?I'minneed
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Dualit
Igota2slotNewgentoasterrefurbishedoffEbayforasignificantdiscount.Refurbishedonesaregoodbuyssincethe
priceislowerandthepartsareavailablefromDualittorebuildthem,butittakestimetofindjusttheoneyouwant.
Somecaveats:Bewaretheversionswithelectronicbuttonsonthem(theWilliamsSonomamodel,forexample),as
thesetendtohaveproblemsgoingbad.Really,there'snoneedforelectronicsonatoaster.Also,toasterswiththered
rockerswitchtoselectoneortwoslicesofbreadareearliermodels.Theystillworkgreat,butIliketheNewgen's
selectorknobbecauseitgivesyouanextrafeaturewhereitwillonlyheatupthecenterelements,toastingtheinsideof
abagelorenglishmuffinandnottheoutside.
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[] wolscott undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,buttherearealsoproducts,thatusedtobedurablydesigned,whosedesignswere"updated"butthepriceswereunchanged.
Sotheyhaverealizedtheycanchargethesameamountforaninferiorversionastheywerefortheoriginalproduct,andtheoriginal
goodproductisnolongeravailable.
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[] nanan00 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thepriceswereunchanged?Soyoupaidthetimeinflatedpriceofthething?That$20coffeegrinderin1970wouldbeabout
$140today...
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Agoodburrgrindertodaycancostaroundthatmuch,andtheonesusedformakingespressocancostmuchmore.
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[] nanan00 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andifyougotagood$140grinderitwouldlikelylastyoudamnnearforeverbutifyoutunedaroundandgot
anotherwalmartspecial$20grinderexpectingthesamelifespanwellyouwouldbeheretalkingaboutplanned
obsolescence.
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[] offguard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecarefulofSurvivorshipBias.
Idon'tknowifitappliestocoffeegrinders,butI'vereadthatsomeolderstuffistougherbecauseitwasdesignedwithasliderule,soa
"fudgefactor"wasbuiltintoeverycalculationbyengineers.Thismeansmaterialsarealittlethicker,jointsalittlemoresolid,fastenersa
littlestronger,becauseengineerswereroundingnumberstowardsthe"safer"side.Withcomputers,wecangetmuchmoreprecise
numbers(moredecimalplaces,forexample),whichmeansthingscanbemuchmorefinetuned.Whichturnsouttomeanabitmore
fragile.
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[] CeeDiddy82 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lolwut.
I'madraftsmanandwestilldesignwithatoleranceforthingsnotbeingaspreciseintherealworldastheyareinthesoftware.
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[] meltedwhitechocolate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hmmseemsliketheoldtimeyengineerswererighttbh!
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[] Woolio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknowsurvivorshipbiasisathing,butI'vegotadiscontinuedBrauncoffeegrinder,theKSM2.Itwasmanufacturedfrom1979until
2008.Mine'sfromthelate80s.
It'sheldupmiraculously.Why?Simpleconstructionanddurablematerials.It'saplasticcylinder(aboutaquarterofaninchthick)
witha150wattelectricmotorandastainlesssteelcuttingblade.Thetopisthickplasticaswell,withalittlebuttonthatactivatesthe
grinder.
EveryothercoffeegrinderI'veboughtwithinthepastdecadehasfailed.MyKSMkeepsgoing.It'sstillgoing,andIgroundsome
coffeewithityesterday.It'smoreconsistent,morereliable,andmoreconvenientthananyothergrinderI'veowned,evenBraun's
morerecentmodels.
I'dsaythat'saclearexampleofproductsgettingmorebreakableandneedlesslycomplexovertime.
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[] borisdiebestie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthat'salotofcorporatelikes
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[] FromBeyondTheWall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
til
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[] Italy321 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thetwomainculpritsaretheadvent(andlearningcurve)ofplasticsinmaterialsscienceandconsumersbecomingincrediblydumb
andnaive,ingeneral,inthelastcouplegenerations.ThelessonwaslearnedbyJapan(andAmericanimporters/cobrandersof
Japanesemadegoods)inthelate70'sand80's,whentheywereproducingconsumergoodsmany,manytimesbetterthantheir
Americancounterparts(Americanmanufacturingwasinareallowpointatthatsametime)forlowercost,soldatalowerpricepoint,
buttheycouldn'tshakeconsumersentimentsabout'theJapsmakejunk'.Theylookedonwithastonishmentaspeoplecontinuedto
payinflatedpricesforAmericanmadegoodsthatwere,ineverydemonstrableway,profoundlyinferiortoJapaneseproduced
goods.Thismademarketersofmassconsumptiongoodsrealizesomethingthatpeoplereallyarefuckingdumb.You'renotselling
tosavvyconsumers.You'reshearingsheep.Theracetocheapeneverything(togetthelowestpossiblecostwhileretaining
generallythesamepricepoint)wasonandinthatprocess,lowerqualitymaterialsandeconomizedproductionprocesseswere
valuedoverthingslikerobustnessanddurability(aka,"quality").Therehasbeensomepushbackagainstthisinrecentyears,there
isofcoursethe'othersideofthecoin'withpeoplewhodeeplyfetishizesuperfluous'craftsmanship'(theycallit'respect'butitsreally
afetish)butlettherebenodoubt,watchingAmericansdrivingaroundintheir1988CutlassCieraonits3rdtransmissionin40,000
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mileswhilecursing"JapaneseJunkCars"thatweregetting200,000problemfreemilesormoretaughtallmanufacturersand
productdesignersthatinreality,peopledon't"getwhattheypayfor".Theygetwhattheydeserve.
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Thetwomainculpritsaretheadvent(andlearningcurve)ofplasticsinmaterialsscienceandconsumersbecomingincrediblydumb.
ThelessonwaslearnedbyJapaninthelate70'sand80's,whentheyweremakingconsumergoodsmany,manytimesbetterthan
theirAmericancounterparts(Americanmanufacturingwasinareallowpointatthatsametime)forlowercost,buttheycouldn't
shakesentimentsabout'theJapsmakejunk'.Theylookedonwithastonishmentaspeoplecontinuedtopayinflatedpricesfor
Americanmadegoodsthatwere,ineverydemonstrableway,profoundlyinferiortoJapaneseproducedgoods.
Thismadeproductmarketersofmassconsumptiongoodsrealizesomethingthatpeoplearefuckingdumb.Theracetocheapen
everythingwasonandinthatprocess,cheapermaterialsandeconomizedproductionprocesseswerevaluedoverrobustness.
Therehasbeensomepushbackagainstthisinrecentyears,thereisofcoursethe'othersideofthecoin'withpeoplewhodeeply
fetishistsuperfluousandmechanicallyirrelevant'craftsmanship'butlettherebenodoubt,watchingAmericansdrivingaroundin
their1988CutlassCieraonits3rdtransmissionin40,000milescurse"JapaneseJunk"thatwasgetting200,000milesormore
taughtallmanufacturersandproductdesignersthatinreality,peopledon't"getwhattheypayfor".
Theygetwhattheydeserve.
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[] king_radical undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EveryengineerIknowonlyroundsto.001inches,andit'sbeenthatwayforareallylongtime.
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[] A_Tiger_in_Africa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Askamechanicalengineer"Whatisoneplusone?"
Mechanicalengineer:"Well,technicallyit'stwo,butlet'scallitthreejusttobesafe."
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[] Geikamir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftheybreakinatimeframethattheconsumerfeelsistooquickly,wouldn'tthatmeanthattheirpreviouscalculationswereactually
thecorrectones?
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[] cefalord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Usuallywegainthatbackintwoareasaswell,productefficiency(lightercarsaremorefuelefficient,etc.)andproductcost(less
materialequalscheapercost.)
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[] anarrogantworm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TLDR:Computershaveallowedustocutdownonmaterialsandscrewtheconsumer.
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[] elegy4asquirrel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisdoesn'texplainwhyalltshirtsarenowmadeofgauze,yetstillcost$25.
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[] csl512 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/BuyItForLifeisfullofthis.
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FudgeFactorswouldbeasickbandname.
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[] ohgross undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkcomplexityisanotherbigelementintheequation.SomethingI'vebeengettingintolatelyisoldstereosystemsfromthe70's
(thoughI'mnotanengineer).They'rebeautiful,theysoundgreat,andthey'rebuiltliketanks.Theknobsareallbigandheavy,the
framesaresolidsteel,thefaceplatesarehugethickslabsofsteeloraluminum.Youopenoneupandforthemostpartyouseethe
samesetofpartsbecausetherewasonlysomuchthatyoucoulddo.Youhadauxinputs,2or3knobstoadjustthetone,volume
knob,inputselector,etc.
Today,areceiverisinfinitelymorecomplex.YouhaveazillionEQsettings,510HDMIinputs,opticalinputs,USBinputsforflash
drivesandiPhones,audioprocessingtohelpmakecompressedaudiosoundbetter,soundcalibrationcircuitry,etc.Soyouopenup
amodernreceiver,andyouhaveallthepartsfromthe70'splussomanymicrochipsthatitlookslikea4yearolddumpedaboxof
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blackLegosinside.
Combinethatwiththefactthatyoucangetaverynicereceiverfor$350today.Inthe70's,aniceonewentfor....$350in1970's
money.Intoday'smoney....$15002000.
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IfyoulookatPyrextheirolderstuffwasmadeofborosilicateglasswhichismuchmoreresistanttotemperaturechanges,butisnow
madeoftoughenedglasswhichmaycrackmucheasier.
Nodoubtitischeapertomanufacturenowbuttheymustallmoreglasswaretoo...
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[] buyitonce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'stheinfographicaboutPyrexglasswww.buyitonce.com/wp/whydidmypyrexdishexplode/
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[] moholynaj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CalledafactorofsafetywhenIwasinengineeringschoolinthelate90's(postsliderule,buttestingsimulationprogramsstillsuper
expensive).Makeabunchofsimplificationstoyourmodeltomakethecalculationsmanagable,thenapplythefactorofsafety.
About2.5usually,5termed"goldplated".Lessaboutprecisenumbers,moreaboutsimplifiedmechanicsmodelling.
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Amengineeringstudent,canconfirmthephrase"goodenough"isusedconstantly.
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[] ClockworkSyphilis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisdoesn'tmakesense.Iftheyweremorefinedtuned,thentheproductswouldbeofthesamequalitybutuselessresourcesto
produce.
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[] AWildBugHasAppeared undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwouldonlyholdifqualitywouldbetheonlydefiningmetric,butthat'snotthecase.Considerforexampleacompany
makingbathtubscastiron.Originallytherewasafairlywidevarietyinthewallthicknessofthecastironsotomakesurethat
atleast95%ofthebathtubshavenoholes,theyneedtomaketheaveragewidthofthebathtubwalls20mm.Now,with
bettercontrols,theycangodowntoawallthicknessof10mmwhilestillhaving95%ofthebathtubswithoutholes.However,
thisdoesmeanthatofthebathtubsthataregoodenoughtobesold,ahigherpercentagewillwearoutquicklybecausethe
wallsarethinner.
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[] BitchinTechnology undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noitisactuallytheopposite.ThatswhytheAK47ismoreruggedthananM4
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[] ruinersclub undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkheactuallymeans,fromamanufacturingstandpointthingsuselessmaterialstobuilt.Itsavesthecompaniesbillions.
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[] computeraddict undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sstillfudgefactorsinengineering,thoughthemorecommontermissafetyfactor.Basically,youfigureoutwhatyouexpect
thepeakloadtobeandmultiplyitbysomeamounttobesafer.Basically,howmanytimesmorethanintendedloadcanitactually
hold.Bridges,buildings,andcarryingcapacityofboatsareallthingsthatusethis.
Also,materialssciencehascomealongwayintermsofreliability.It'sentirelypossiblethestouterfeaturesofolderdesignwasjust
toaccountforminimummaterialstrengthofamaterialwhosestrengthvariedsignificantlyfrombatchtobatch.Thesurviving
exampleswouldbefromgoodbatches,wheretheyproducedsomethingfarstrongerthanneeded.
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[] faithle55 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fudgefactors
Look,thisis2015.Noneedforinsults,they'rejustcalled'gays'now.
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[] chleblove undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyourspecificationssayitneedstohold200lbs,youhavetomakeitcapableofholdingup5fatpeoplehavingvigoroussex
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onit...becausetheywill.
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[] Gottsman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavealwayswonderedifoverengineeringsomethingfromthetopdowncouldapplytoanautomobile.Maybeaheavyduty
truck.Takeeveryseal,screw,nut,pieceofelectronics,frameandbodypart,etc.,andmakeit5%thicker,stronger,harderor
moredurablethatitshouldeverhavetobe.Iknowthemileagewouldprobablysuck,butthatthingwouldlastintough
conditionsindefinitely.ItwouldmaybeselltothesamecrowdthatboughttheHummers,orhangballsoffoftheirtrailer
hitches.
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Inpreparationforthe24HoursofLeMansrace,Fordranitsenginesfor48straighthoursinsimulatedraceconditions.
Anythingthatbrokegotreengineereduntilitcouldlastthe48straighthoursofabuse.Ofcourse,itwashideously
expensive.ButthiswasshortlyafterFerrarihadjustsnubbedFordIIbysellingtosomeoneelseinsteadafterstringing
Fordalongaboutthedeal.AnangryFordbasicallywroteablankcheckforShelbytoproducetheGT40.
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[] Gottsman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youareright.Itwouldbehideouslyexpensivetodoitforonecar,foroneinstance.Iwasthinkingmoreofa
productionvehicle.OverEngineeredonthedrawingboard.Heavyyes.LessperformanceandmileageYes.
MoreexpensiveYouBetcha!GoodchoiceforDurableHeavyDutyWorkingorUtilitytruckoraGood4W
maybe.Couldthelongevityandreliabilityoftheproductmaketheaddedexpenseagoodinvestment?JustAsking
...
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[] Soigne87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinktherearealotofreasonsrelatingtocost.Ifyoucanmakesomethingmarginallycheaperormarginallymoredurable,
everyonenoticesitscheaper,fewerpeoplenoticeyoumakingitmoredurable.
Also,financially,thingsaretighternow.Themiddleclassisshrinking.Peopleneedtopickthecheapestoption.
Finally,companiesneedtomaximizeprofitswhichmeansgettingasclosetothemindurabilityascheaplyaspossible.
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[] ProfessionalShill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyonecandesignabridgethatstands,ittakesanengineertodesignabridgethatBARELYstands.
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[] TheGlassCat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisawellknownsayinginengineeringcircles
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[] KickItNext undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mgoingtogetmydegreeinengineeringsoon,andforsomereason,thismakesmehappy.
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[] Unorthobox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisappliestophilosophytoo:"Anyonecandesignaphilosophythatstands(Loveyourmother),ittakesaphilosopher
todesignaphilosophythatBARELYstands(Mymotherisanillusionbecausemybrainisinacomputersimulation!)."
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[] Humming_Hydrofoils undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thebestdesignisonethatfailsallofitsrequirementsbytheslightestmargin:ifyouexceedanyyouhaveclearlyover
designed.
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[] goplayer7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthenfromthereyoujustincreasethethicknessofeverythingby5millimeters?
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[] Kroteezy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Screwthat!Overengineeringistheshitjustlookatthatcodpiece.
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[] oGsBumder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Ah,afellowStarCraftfan.Hellit'sabouttime.
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Notmanypeoplerealizethisbutthetermcodpieceoriginallyarosewhenpeopleusetohangdeadfishin
frontoftheirgenitals
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Tomaskthesmell?
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[] moonra_zk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Togiveitmoresmell,itwasappreciatedbackthen.
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No,justbecauseitwasthestyleofthetime.
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[] Buscat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Overengineeringisunderengineering.:p
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[] bollvirtuoso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Remindsmeofthatquote:"Forgivemeforthelengthofthisletter,forIdidn'thavethetimetowritea
shorterone."
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[] HabseligkeitDerLiebe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'renotreallyparaphrasingsinceyou'retranslating.TheoriginalisfromBlaisePascalandhe
wroteitinFrench.
("Jenaifaitcellecipluslonguequeparcequejenaipaseuleloisirdelafairepluscourte.")
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Youjustblewmymind,lad.
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[] Joetato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myfather(whohadanengineeringdegree)wouldalwaysoverload/overburdenthings,saying"They'realwaysbuilttohold
morethantheysaytheyare."Andmymotherwouldalwaysarguewithhim,thinkingtheopposite,thatthingsweredesigned
toholdlessthanwhattheysay.Somethingsaysitcanholdupto200pounds?Accordingtomymother,thatmeansit's
designedtohold150pounds.No,Idon'tknowwhyshethoughtthis,butshedid.
ButI'malsonotsureit'sagoodideatocountonadifferenceandoverloadeverythinglikemydaddid.
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[] eruditionfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inaway,it'sboth.
Anelevatorthatcanreasonablyfit15peoplecouldbesaidtobe"designed"for15people.
Itwilllikelyberated,however,for20ormorepeople(atthestandard75kg/person),evenifitwouldbeimpossible
toactuallysqueeze20averagesizedpeopleintotheelevator.
And,ofcourse,inordertoattainaratingfor20people(i.e.1500kg),itwouldlikelybebuilttosafelycarry2000
kgormore.
Thatway,iftheelevatorsaysitcanhold20people,it'slikelydesignedtoholdlessthanthat,butisalsobuilttohold
morethanthat.
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[] kintaeb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisissomewhatofathing.Idoresearchusingtubefurnacesthatcantheoreticallyreach1700C,butweneverrun
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themhigherthan1600Candusuallyonlytocloseto1500C.
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[] argon_infiltrator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thingsthataredesignedtoholdcertainloadaredesignedtotakemorethanthenominalloadsothatthereissome
safetymargin.Withelevatorcablesthissafetymargincanbeashighas8xandwithsomethingelsethemarginsare
lower.Skyscrapersteelstructuresforexampledonothave8xsafetymarginsbutontheotherhandaren'treallycloseto
1xeither.
Butthethingisnoteverythingisdesignedthisway.Somethinglikewheelbarrowforexampleisn'tratedforanyload.It
isjust"goodenough".Toomuchdesigningcoststoomuchmoney.Andviceversatoomuchmaterialcoststoomuchto
make.Sothewheelbarrowthatgetsmadewillholdsomethingequivalentoftypicalload.Inmostcasesyoucanpilea
lotmorestuffonitbecausetheactualloadcarryingabilityisnotdefinedbythedesignbutbythemanufacturing
process.Youdon'twanttousetoothinsteelplatesortoothinwalledpipesbecauseitmakesithardertoweldorharder
tocolddraworwhatever.Orjustcoststoomuch.
Somethinglikecoffeegrinderisnotdesignedforanyload.It'smechanicsarejustgoodenoughsothatitcandoitsjob.
Atmostsomepartsarechosentohavecertainhardnesssothatitdoesn'twearout,isdefinedbysomestandardor
someotherreason.Itisbuilttodoitsjobwithoutanyactualefforttomakeitbreakafterxuses.
Ontheotherendofthespectrumyouhavesomethinglikesmartphone.Allthepartsarecarefullychosentofulfillthe
minimumagecriteriabasedonprobabilityanalysissothatacceptablenumberofunitsbreakandarereplacedbythe
manufacturer.Itischeapertofixsomeunitsthanitistobuildaphonethathasveryverylowriskofdyingtooearly.
Phonesarealsoexpensive,complexandverydetailedlydesignedsoplannedobsolescenceisprofitableforthe
company.Foracompanythatmakeswheelbarrowsorcoffeegrinderssuchdetailindesignisnotprofitable.Butfora
companythatmakessomethinglikelightbulbs,tiresorsocksandmakesthemhugeamountswillwanttomaximiseits
profitsinanywayitcan.Regardlesshowdamagingitisforthenature.
Inotherwordsyoucanpileshittonofrocksinyouwheelbarrow,grindtonsofcoffeeinyourcoffeegrinderbutavoid
mishandlingyourlightbulbsandsmartphonesbecausethosearedesignedtonotlastmuchlongerthantheyabsolutely
needto.Insomecasesnoteventhat.
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[] nocoolname42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Manythingsaredesignednotreallytobreakafterxuses,buttolastaminimumofxusesbeforeafailurewould
likelyoccur.Takeacoffeegrinderforinstance.Acompanywantsonetheycanputa5yearwarrantyon.Letssay
theaveragecoffeegrinderisusedfor1minuteaday,5daysaweeksotheengineerswoulddesigntheweakest
linktolast1300minutestimesthefactorofsafetyofintermittentusagebeforefailure.(Thosenumbersarejustan
example,Idon'thaveanyexperienceusingacoffeegrinder)
Exceptforairplanes,they'remainlymadeofaluminumwhichreallydoesn'thaveafatiguelimit,itjustwork
hardens,getsbrittleandcracks.Thinkaboutthatwhenyou're35,000ft,thecabinhasbeenloadedmanytimes
throughpressurizationsothatyoustayconsciousandthewingsareslightlyflexingduetotheextremeturbulence
theplaneisexperiencing.That'swhyIdrinkbeforeandduringaflight.
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Interestinglyskyscrapersaregenerallynotdesignedtomeetasafetyfactor,butinsteadaredesignedtomeeta
serviceabilitylimitstate.
Thatistosayiftheywerebuiltonlystrongenoughthattheymettherequiredsafetyfactorstoensurethey
remainedstanding,theywouldactuallyswaysomuchinthewindthatitwouldscarethehelloutofeveryonein
andaroundthestructure.
Soinsteadofbeingbuiltstrongenoughtoensurethey'resafe,they'rebuiltstrongenoughtomakeeveryone
FEELsafe.
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[] banjaxe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatistosayiftheywerebuiltonlystrongenoughthattheymettherequiredsafetyfactorstoensure
theyremainedstanding,theywouldactuallyswaysomuchinthewindthatitwouldscarethehelloutof
everyoneinandaroundthestructure.
IremembergoingtodinnerintherestaurantontopoftheWorldTradeCenter.Evenwiththatthingthey
installedinthebuildingtocounteractthesway,itwasstilldefinitelynoticeable,andsomewhatdisconcerting
tomy10yearoldself.
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[] flRaider undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thebestideaistofollowthedamndirections.Ifitsaysitwillhold200lbs,thenput200lbsonit.Supersimplestuff.
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[] offguard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIknewaboutsafetyfactorsbeingbuiltineventothisday(likedesigningthingsforthe"100yearevent",evenifitnever
seesthatinitslifetime,likeacrazysnowfallorawildstorm).
Iwastalkingmoreaboutthefactthatsliderulesdon'tgiveyoufiguresaspreciseasacomputer,soeverynumberisfudged
automatically,andendsuproundedtowardssafety.
Thematerialsthingisinterestingtoconsider.Ibetthere'salsotheeffectofimprecisemachining,whereengineershadto
designforthemachining/manufacturingprecisionavailableintheirtime,sosomethingscouldn'tbeasfine/intricateaswe
havenow(or,atleast,couldn'twithoutbeingprohibitivelyexpensive).
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You'reontherighttrack,butit'snotsomuchtheprecisionofthecalculationsastheamountofcalculations.Computers
candostufflikeFiniteElementAnalysisalotquickerthanahumancan,andtheycanalsodothingslike"repeatthis
samecalculation100timesandchangethisonevariableby0.01eachtime".Optimizationbecomesaloteasierthis
way.
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"repeatthissamecalculation100timesandchangethisonevariableby0.01eachtime"
Ifit'saknownformula,that'sjustwhatcalculusoptimizationproblemsarefor.Youdon'tactuallytestevery.01
step.
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100yearevent?
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Structuresaregenerallybuilttowithstandweathereventswithacertainprobabilitydependingonhowimportant
theyare.
Generallypublicarebuilttowithstanda1in100yearstorm,forexample.Housesareoftendesignedonlyfor1in
50yearevents.(whicharegenerallysignificantlysmaller)
Structuresthatwouldbeimportantduringadisastersuchashospitalsshouldbebuilttowithstanda1in500year
events.
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Wow.Icouldn'ttellbylookingatyouraveragehospitalitlooksliketypicalofficebuildings.What'stheWhite
Housebuilttowithstand?
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[] hoot1991 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'stheWhiteHousebuilttowithstand?
Idoubtit'sdesignedtowithstandmorethanotherbuildingsaroundit.Thebunkerunderneathitcould
probablytakeadirectnuclearstrike,though.
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[] ChowanChillin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itdoesn'ttakeawholelotofanythingextratodesignahighimportancefactorbuilding.Youcould
buildtwobuildingsthatlookedidenticaleverywhereyoucouldsee,butthestrongeronewouldhave
morebracedbays,whicharehiddeninwalls,moreroofreinforcement,andmaybebiggerfootingsfor
upliftforces.
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Ifyouknowwhattolookforyoucanseethedifferences,butarchitectsandengineersareprettygood
athidingthem.
HonestlyIcanonlyguessabouttheWhiteHouse..Itdoesn'thelpthatIhaven'treadtheengineering
standardinalongtime.
Perhaps1in100,butmorelikely1in500.
1in1000isgenerallyreservedforradioactivewastestorageandthelikefromwhatIremember.
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Doesthatentailbuildingitdeepunderground?That'saboutassafeasyoucanget,andit'sa
populardumpfornuclearwaste.
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Yeah,sliderulesweren'tthatimprecise.Andthenumbersengineersworkwithforhouseholdappliances'loadsaren't
terriblyprecisetobeginwith,either.Andevenwithcomputers,youstillroundtowhat'sconvenienttomachine.Noone
designswithnonstandardsheetmetaljustbecausethecomputertellsthemthethicknesstheyneedisbetweentwo
standardgauges.
I'mbettingithasmoretodowiththeriseofinjectionmoldingfromthe1940'sonwardthantheriseofcalculatorsinthe
60'sand70's.Especiallyconsideringthatcomputerswereavailableintheformofmainframesasearlyasthe1950's.
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Late40sactually
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[] YourGoogleman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anactualbusinessstrategyadoptedbytheautoindustry.Carsusedtolastyoulifetime.Notanymore.
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Yepbutitdoesn'tworkwithallproducts.Onlywiththingsthatpeoplearen'tpassionateaboutandarefairlycheaptorebuy.Onethingit
DOESNOTworkwithisPCpartsforexample.Youmakeashittypart,peopleWILLstopbuyingALLyourproductsandyouwilllose
money.
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[] AndyDuhAwesome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'tprobablytrue,itis.Companiesdeliberatelydothis.
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[] Kautkto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsodoyourresearchaboutgrinders.Myonehaslasted6yearsandallIdidwasbuyarefurbishedmodel.It'sabrevillesomething.
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[] etray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InterestingdocumentaryinYoutubeaboutit:TheLightBulbConspiracy
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[] GSpiff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkthisisaconspiracytheorysomuchasit'saprovenwaytosellmoreofyourproduct.Havingshitbreakallthetimemakes
youwaymoremoneythansellingsomethingthat'lllastalifetime.
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[] severoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallyplannedobsolescenceisn'tquitesoevilasthat.It'sjustalackofoverdesign.
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Beingasmallappliancerepairguyusedtobearealprofession.Aguywithatoolboxandavanwouldhaveashopdowntownand
forafewbuckswouldfixvacuums,blenders,coffeemakers,etc.Wheneverythingstartedgoingtosolidstate,andthentheFree
TradeAgreementsandoutsourcingcamethankstoNewtGingrich,itbecamecheapertoreplacethanrepair.That'swhyyounever
seepatchedjeansanymore.They'reallmadeofshitmaterialbychildslaves,nothighendcottonbyunionworkers.Justgoget
anotherpairfor$7atWalmart.
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[] agenthek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IguessthisfallsinthelogicofSnapontools?Pay5xasmuchbecauseeventuallyyourgoingtoneedtousethe"lifetime"warranty
atleastonceortwice.Sotheystillhavemadeaprofit.
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It'snotatheory,it'sajobdescription.
Thereareliterallypeoplewho'sonlyjobistomakeshitfailafterthewarrantyexpires.
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[] AppleBytes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,mostpeoplebuycheap.Cheapdoesnotlast.
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PooroneoutforTheTucker:(
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[] DogBoneSalesman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ArewetalkingaboutFitbitbandsnow?Whatafuckingjoke.Theyseemtotearafteronlyafewmonthsofuseatmost.
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[] Dr_Streetmentioner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butnoonewilladmitit,whichmakesitaconspiracy.Itcanbebothabusinessstrategyandaconspiracy.They'renotmutually
exclusive.
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[] JabroniZamboni undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiracyisjustasecretplantodosomethingharmfulorunlawful.Couldyouargueit'sharmfultoconsumerstosellaproduct
youexpecttobreakinanunreasonableamountoftime,orbeforeitwouldcommonlybeexpectedtobreakwithnormaluse?Ithink
so.Sosure,itcouldbeavalidconspiracy.
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[] luncht1me undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butisstupidafwhenyou'reproducingwithdecadeoldtechnologyandonlyhavelimitedresources.Highlyinefficientprocess.
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[] RithyH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'saddthatinordertokeepthecostlowcompaniesoftenusepartsofalesserquality.
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[] Yogymbro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TellthattoMaytag.
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[] AllDepressedChips undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftheproductdoesn'tlastaslongasIfeelitshouldIdon'tbuyfromthatcompany,it'sthebeautyofafreemarket.
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Ithinkit'smorecheapproductvsexpensiveproduct.Youcangeta30dollarprinterthatwillkeepbreaking,oraseveralhundred
dollarprinterthatwon't.It'salittlecynicaltothinkthatmostcompaniesintentionallymaketheirproductscheapsothey'llbreakand
sellmore.Thevalueofareputationisimmensecomparedtovalueofafewmorerepeatsalesfromthosewhodon'tgiveuponyour
productwhenitkeepsbreaking.I'msuretherearecompaniesthatdothat,butIwouldcallitanexception,nottherule.
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[] jayme0227 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smoreofaracetothebottom.Youcanprobablyfindanexpensivecoffeegrinderthatwilllastadecade,butitwillalmostcertainly
besomuchmoreexpensivethatmostpeoplewouldnevereventhinkofbuyingit.
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[] pants_face undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HavingshitbreakallthetimemeansI'mgoingtobuyadifferentbrand.
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[] steveholt480 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,incandescentlightbulbscouldbebuilttolastforever,butyousimplycantmakeaprofitsellinga100yearbulb.Thesenew
LED'sseemtohaveamuchlongerlifespan,butI'msurethey'rebuilttobreakeventually.
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Whensomeofthosewhoproduceprintingmachinesputsincodesthatordertheprintertostopworkingafterithasprintedouta
specificnumberofpages,Ithinkyou'removingintoconspiracyterritory.ARussianactuallywroteacounterprogramforpeopleto
downloadthatwouldoverridethatfunction,andgettheirprinterworkingagain.
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[] Daktush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlyifyouhavesomesortofcontroloverconsumersandcanassurethattheywillbutyourproductagain
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[] derp_08 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcanspinanyconspiracythatwaythen.
9/11isn'taconspiracytheorysomuchasit'saprovenwaytogettherallyingcallforwar.
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[] Ducktruck_OG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dgoasfartosaythattheyprobablyjustbuycheapcoffeegrinders.Yougetwhatyoupayfor(+/thereputationofthe
manufacturer).
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[] codymann88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sothemanufacturersaremanipulating(conspiring)againsttheconsumeryes?
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[] Prof_Pwnage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somethingsomethingapplehardware...
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[] sonofaresiii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'snotsomuchthattheyplanforittobreak,it'sthattheydothemathonhowmanyresourcestheyshouldputintoittokeepit
workingforacertainamountoftimewhilegainingprofit
itdoesn'tmakefinancialsensetospendresourcesmakingaproductthatwilllastfortwentyyears,ifyouknowthepublicwillreadily
buyanewoneintwoyears.They'renotintentionallysabotagingtheirproducts,filingdownscrewsorwhatever,they'rejustnot
puttingintheextraworktomakethemlastevenlonger.
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[] 1yeartogod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotaconspiracytheoryatall...Infact,warranty=expectedlifetimeitwasdesignedfor.
Havingshitbreakallthetimemakesyouwaymoremoneythansellingsomethingthat'lllastalifetime.
Thisisprettymuchneededforsocietytowork,peopleneedtowork5daysaweekfor40yearssoinaway,weMUSThaveshort
lifetimeitemsinordertokeepemploymenthigh
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[] Zombie_Scholar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isn'tthishowCrocswentouttabusiness?Peopleneverhadtobuyanotherpairtypically.
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[] Idothehokeypokey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Crocshasn'tgoneoutofbusiness.
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[] kiyoshi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theproblemhereisthathavingoneguymanufactureabetter,moredurableproductwouldpushthecrookedcompetitorsoutofthe
market.
Youwouldn'tthinkitwasagoodbusinessstrategytoputhalftheamountoffoodonyourplate,becausethecustomerwould
becomesoonerhungryagain.
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Ithinkthere'sakerneloftruthinthestory.Idon'tthinkitwouldmakesensetobuildamobilephoneinawaythatitwouldlast25
years,itwouldbethrownawaylongbeforethat.Soyoucansavesomeresourceshere.Alsofromtimetotimecompaniescashin
onabigbrandtheyownbypushingoutcheap/shitqualityunderthesamename.
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SortofbutIthinkthepsychologicallyof"holyshitthisoneisonly9.95,that'shalfthepriceofthatotherripoff"ishardtoget
by.
Notenoughpeopletakeintoaccountthelongtermcostsofbuyingthesamecheapproductoverandoverbecauseofthe
"bargain"theyfoundatWalMart.I'mnotsayingyou'rebetteroffbuyingthemoreexpensiveoptionallthetime,butsometimes
youwouldbe.Theyareabletomoreimmediatelysatisfythemselvesbygettingtheproductwhilestill"saving"money,the
mentalityofinstantgratificationandtheideaoflettingfuturekiyoshidealwiththisshitwhenitbreaksisappealingbecause
November28th,2015kiyoshijustgotadealfor50%off.
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True,butthat'snotthesamethingasriggingyourwashingmachinestoexplodeorwhatever.Informationisavaluable
commodityforaconsumerthat'swhytvandprintmediaisfullofconsumeradviceanddon'tforgetonlineratings.Allof
thatcompaniesaretryingtosubvert,butstill.Generallyyouknowwhat'squalityandwhat'sshitifyouspendalittletime
onyourdecision.Foreverydaystuffyoucanfindqualitystoresthatyoucantrusttoadegree.Allkindsofmechanisms
existthatcanhelpyou.
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Yeah,andit'smoreorlessthelowincomepeoplethatgetfuckedoverbythis..they'veinvestedwhateverthey
hadtogetthatwashingmachineandonceitbreaks,it'lltakealongtimetogetanewonegoingwhenyou'reliving
paychecktopaycheck.Buyinganewwashingmachinemeansbeinglateonyourbillsorhavinganemptyfridge,
oryou'resimplyshitoutofluckanddon'thaveawashingmachineanymore.
It'sthewholelightbulbdebate,we'vemadeonesthatlastdecades,sometimesevenacentury+andthere'sno
reasonwecan'treplicatethattodayotherthantheindustriesdesiretosellmore.It'sallinthefilimentand
transitioningtheproducttoprotectagainstconstantturningonandoff(whichiswhatreallykillsthebulbs)
Bigupsontheresearchaspecttoo,Igetlaughedatforspending20minutesreadingupona20dollarpurchase.
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Notsureaboutthelightbulbthing,butdecreasingqualityisusuallyconnectedtogovernmentregulation.It's
truewhatyousayaboutpoorpeople,theyoftenlackequipmentandknowledgetomakethebestdecisions
buttherehasbeendevelopmentinthisarea.Lowpricesupermarketsarenowfirmlyestablishedinoffering
dealsonallkindsofhomeappliances..whichusuallyarenotasspectacularastheypretendbutingeneral
you'llgetwhatyoupayfor.
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Interesting,mindmeaskingwhereyoulive?I'mnotawareofthishereinSouthernOntariobutIcould
bewrong.AsfarasIcantellpeopleherebasicallycaneithersignupforapaymentplanatanormal
storeorgotoacheckcashingplaceandgetanadvancewithaborderlineillegalinterestrateonit.
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[] ukez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
see:Americancarcompanies
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[] RRettig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Intentionallymakingaproductbadsothatyoucansellmoreofthemisabadbusinessmodel,andIliketobelievethatifany
businesshaseverbeen"proven"todothistheywouldlosebusiness.Itfitsthedescriptionofaconspiracyasnobodyactively
admitstheywouldeverdothat,anditisnotaprovenbusinessmodelinanyway.
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[] rusty_nailer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisagreatdocumentaryonthiscalledthe"LightbulbConspiracy"whereallthelightbulbmanufacturersaroundthe
worldhaveallagreedtomaketheirbulbsonlylast1000hoursorso.Theycaneasilymakebulbsthatwilllastover50years
buttheywontbeareturningcustomeranytimesoonwiththatbusinesspractice.
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Youwouldn'tnecessarilymakeallyourproductsintentionallybad,justeverynewiterationisslightlylesshardythanthe
previousone.Largelyunnoticeablefromversion1toversion2,butifyoucomparedversion1tosayversion6whichwas
released6or7yearsormorelateryoumightnoticethattheoriginalslastlongerthanthemoremodernones.Bytimepeople
areusedtotheversion6model,theywillbemoreaccustomedtoitlastingXyearsratherthantheX+2yearstheoriginal
lasted.
Thismightgosomewaytoexplainingtheexampleoftheretrocoffeemachinestillworkingwhiletheneweronesbreak
sooner:manufacturersnoticetheirproductsarelastinglongerthananyoneexpectedsotheyrealisetheycancutsomecosts
whilestillkeepingtheproductslifewithinexpectedoracceptablelimits.Afterawhile,theymightthink"well,ifwecutsome
moreproductioncoststhenwewilllose6monthsofftheextendedlifeoftheproduct...Butwho'sgoingtonoticethat?"
There'safamous,possiblyapocryphal,storyofHenryFordexamininghiscarsinscrapyards,figuringoutwhichpartswere
manufacturedwithsuchqualitythattheyusuallyoutlastedtherestofthecar,andthenslashingthebudgetforthatpartand
goingwithcheapermaterialsandmanufacturingmethodsasaresult.Thiscouldbeconsideredaformofplanned
obsolescenceashewouldhavethenexpectedtheparttolastalotshorterlifespanandmaybeeventogiveoutandhaveto
bereplacedwhiletherestofthecarwasstillfine,ormaybeifhewasluckyitwouldbrickthecarandthecustomerwouldbe
betteroffcomingbacktohimforanotheroneofcourseifthishappenedwithinthefirstfewmonthsitwouldbeanissue,butif
thepartlastssay15yearsinsteadof25thenitdoesn'tlooksobad...
Ican'tsayfordefinitethatanyoneactuallydoesthisbutit'samoresubtlewaythanjustgoing"let'smakeashitproductsoit
breaksthenthosemindlesssheepwilljusthavetobuyanother."
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[] donttouchthattwinkie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andaprovenwaytosavemoneyonmanufacturing,whichsavingswillbepassedontoconsumerswhowanttobuyhousehold
appliancesatTargetandthenaresurprisedwhentheydon'tlastforever.
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[] MrMariohead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.It'sliketheconspiracytheoryiscalled"globalcapitalism"OP'spatents'coffeegrinderprobablycost4timeswhathis
cheapgrinderscost,too.
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[] perverted_alt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcoursethereisacertainsegmentofthepublicthatwantstobuynewshitallthetimewhetheritbreaksornot(glaresatmy
wife),SoI'mfinesavingafewbucksontheappliancethatwilldiein3yearsinsteadof10.
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[] my_name_is_cooler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tunderstandwhypeopledon'trealizethat.Walmartisn'tsellingyouthevacuumofyourlife,they'resellingyouthe
vacuumyouneedtocleanyourhousetoday.Therearegoodproductsoutthere,peoplejustdon'tliketopayforthem.
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[] CrystalKU undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WherewouldyoubuysomethinglikeacoffeegrinderfromthatwouldbehigherqualitythanTarget?Genuinelycurious,Ilive
inasmallmediumsizedcityandreally,TargetiswhereIwouldgotogetagoodqualitysmallappliance.Therearecheaper
productsandbetterqualitymoreexpensiveproductsatTarget.
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[] Carifax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
anyrestaurantsupplystore
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[] BoneslyGrifter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodruleofthumbforfindinghigherqualitystuff:buyitfromaplacethatspecializesinthosethings.WhenIbuy
anewvacuum(aMiele,upcomingpurchase!),I'mgoingtothevacuumstorewithalittleseventyyearoldman
whohasbeenfixingandsellingvacuumsforhalfacentury.Ibuyallmykitchenstufffromarestaurantsupply
store,too.CheaperthanWalmartonsomethings(24"x20"doublelayeredstainlessbakingsheetsfor$6!).and
myKitchenaidisanactualprofessionalKitchenaid,notarebrandedhalfplasticpieceofcrapthatcost$30less.
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Thisisabetteranswer.Therearemorewellmadeproductsthatactuallylast.Buycheapandkeepbuyingcheap,orfind
somethingthatlasts.Obviouslyalotofthemostexpensivearenobetterthansomethinginthemiddle,sofindonewiththe
bestcost/benefitbalance.
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[] DavidWritesCode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Savingsaren'treallybeingpassedifa$500dishwasherpurchasedtodaybreaksinafewyearsyetthe$500dishwasheryour
parent'spurchased15yearsagorunslikeitisnew.Ihopeonedaythingswillreturntotheerawheretheywerebuilttolast.
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[] FirstNameSmitty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistheanswer.Therehasbeenatimewherepeopleonlywanttopayless.It'sstartingtomovebacktowardsqualitynow
aswerealizethatinthelongrunitsworthit.Itwasn'taconspiracysomuchasconsumerschoosingpriceoverqualityand
qualitymanufacturersnotbeingabletocompete.
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However,ifcivilizationcollapses,youcan'tevenenjoythesalvageforlong.:C
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[] fragproof undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mjustgonnascrapallthatsalvageanywaytomakeweaponmodsandrepairmypowerarmor.
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[] copycat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ormorelikelymorecomplexfeaturesthatselltheproductbetterormakeitmoredesirableatthebeginning.Somethingthatis
lightweightisn'tnecessarilydurable.Wehadimpactwrenchesatworkthatbrokeonceayear,butwehadonethatwasat
least20yearsold.Itwasmiserablyheavyandslow....butitworked.
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[] offspringofdeath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifindmyselfhavingthisdiscussioneverynowandthen,andthebottompointisifnooneiswillingtopayforincrediblequality
there'snoincentiveforproducerstomakeproductsofincrediblequality.
I'veheardarumorseveraltimesthatMercedesduringthe80'smadeaconsciousdecisiontolowerthequalityoftheircars(I
realizeit'sprobablynottruebutthat'snotreallyimportantsojustplayalong).Itsoundsreallycounterproductivetoproduce
worsecarsbutitcanmakesense.SaythatBMWcanselltheircarsslightlycheaperthanMercedesbecauseofcertain
manufacturingprocessesthatalsoresultsinacarthatit'sofworsequalitythantheMercedes.Ifcostumersaren'twillingto
payforthebetterqualitycarthenMercedesmightbebetteroffwithproducingworsecars.
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Also,considerthatpeoplerarelytakeprideinbuyinganewcaranddrivingitfor200,000kmilesand10years.
Everyonewantsanewcareveryfewyears.Whymakethemlast10?
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[] BoneslyGrifter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfamilyandIstillbuycarsthisway.I'mdrivinga2000ChevyTahoethatIboughtfor2kfrommydadits
approaching300,000milesanditprobablyhasanother100,000leftinit.I'mprobablyjustgoingtobuyanother
Chevywhenthisonefinallydies,rinseandrepeat.Thefamilycarbeforethatwasan'83CutlassCierathatwe
soldtoafamilyfriendwhoneededacarandputthatmoneyintotheTahoe.Itdroveforanotherfiveyearsbefore
thechassisrustedoutfromweatherexposure,noengineproblems.
Weactuallytakecareofourcarsinourfamily.Mycarbeforethisonewasan'89MaximathatI"totalled"in2007
inhighschool(crackedengineblock,bentradiator,etc),andmeandmyfriendwithahobbygarageboughta
duplicatecarfromtheimpoundlotandfixedeverything.Icandojustaboutanythingtoacaranddoeverything
myselfexceptshitliketirerotations.Droveitforanotherfiveyears,solditfor1.5kandlastI'dhearditwasstill
going.
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[] ynososiduts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisafallacy.Moderncarsaremorereliableandlongerlastingthantheyeverwere.
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Thisisafallacy.
Noit'snot.Itmightbewrong,butit'snotalogicalfallacy.
Noteveryfalsestatementisafallacy,nomatterhowmuchyoulikedroppingthattermbecauseyouthinkit
makesyousoundsmart.
IfItellyouit'srainingoutsidewhenit'snot.....that'snotafallacy.It'sjustwrong.
Buhbyenow.GobacktoLogic101atWesternKentuckyCommunityTechnicalCollegeorwhereveryouare
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[] catnap_w_kittycats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Partofthisisaselffulfillingprophesythough.Ifcarsaren'tmadetolast10yearsnow,thenyouhavetochoose
betweenreplacingitordrivingaclunker.
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[] jiplokram undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IntheU.S.market,olderMercedeswerecompetingagainstdomestictrashcarsofappallingquality.Theywerebought
bypeoplewhowantedgreatdurabilityandcraftsmanship,andwerewillingtopayextra.Basically,Mercedesusedtobe
theL.L.Beanofcars.Mercedesofthiseraheldtheirvaluewell,sincetheylastedalongtimeandthebuyerswere
concernedwithvalueandpleasure.
WhentheJapanesecarcompaniesstartedfloodingthemarketwithcarsthatwerecheapandquitedurable,alotofthat
marketdisappeared.AlotofpeoplewerewillingtocompromiseonaToyotathatwasmorereliableandcheaper.
Mercedeswasforcedtoshifttomarketingtotheconspicuousconsumptioncrowd:peoplewhowouldbuyanew$50k
careverytwoyearsjusttoprovehowmuchmoneytheyhad.Atthatpointthecarsshiftedtoostentation.Qualitywas
lessimportantbecausebuyerswantedalifestyleaccessory.Resalevaluesdroppedsubstantially.
Ironically,theluxury/valuemarketstillexistsandwasconqueredbyToyotawiththeirLexusbrand.
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[] RedditRage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheworsethingisIfindproductsthataremuchhigherpricedandsupposedlyofhigherquality,andtheyfuckingbreak
asquickasthecheapones.
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[] loveshercoffee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisitexactly.
Icook,canandbakeaLOTandIburnedthroughcheapmixerslikecrazy.IboughtaKitchenAidat5xtheprice
oftheothers.Itlasted2stinkingyears!
IfoundanancientOsterKitchenCenterthingyfrom1970satathriftstorefor$10.It'sablender,mixer,chopper,
foodprocessor,pastaextruder,icecreammaker,meatgrinderandstrainerforjamsandtomatosauce.Itgets
moreusethananyotherapplianceinourhouse.I'vehaditthreeyearsmyselfanditstillworksperfectly.
I'dbewillingtopayseriouscashhell,ImighttakeevenoutaloantoreplaceitwhenitdiesifIcouldgetthe
sameversatilityandquality.
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[] jimsmisc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisisabigpartofitthemarket(atleastintheU.S.)currentlyvalueslowcostoverhighquality.
Myanecdotalexampleispowertools:whendoingbigprojectsaroundthehouse,Iendupenlistingmydad'shelp,and
weendupusingashockingnumberofhisdad'spowertoolsstufffromthe50sand60sbecausetheyarestillthe
heaviestdutytoolswe'vegot,andtheystillwork.
Thatmightsuggestthattheyjust"don'tmake'emliketheyusedto",butIsuspectthat,asapercentageofincome,
thosetoolscostmuchmorethanwhatyou'dexpecttopayfor,say,adrill,today.
Wehaveconsumerexpectationsthatsomethinglikeadrillshouldcost$50to$150,whichmeansithastobedesigned,
manufactured,andshippedformuchlessthanthat.Idon'tknowforsure,butI'mguessingthatmygrandfather'stools
probablycostwhatwouldworkouttoabout$500$800in2015money.
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[] Qari undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thelongandshortofitisthis.It'sbasiceconomics.Themarketwantscertainthings.Higherpricesmeanlessbuyers.
Youcantapalargermarketbyloweringyourqualityabit.
Takentothelogicextreme,acompanycouldmakeacoffeemugthatisbasicallyindistructableandsellitforagrand.
Ortheycouldmake2dollarmugs.Thentheycanseethattheymakeamuchlargerprofitoffthe2dollarmugsbecause
ofthevolumeofsales(evenifthemarginperunitwaslowerthanthe$1000mug.)Thatmeanstheconsumers,notthe
company,haveoptedforthemoredisposableoption.
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[] Jess_than_three undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,thatcoffeegrinderwasahellofalotmoreexpensiveatthetimethanitscomparativelydisposablemodernequivalentis
today.
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[] Benblishem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iboughtonefor$4.99yesterday.IshouldprobablyjusttakeitoutoftheboxsoIcanrecyclethecardboardandthen
justchuckthethingstraightintothetrash.
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[] SeekingEnoch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youshouldn'thaveevenbroughtitbackfromthestore.Iusuallyjustbuymyitemsandthenreturnthemdirectly
totheshelves.
Norecyclingneeded.Whoneedstowastethatenergy!!?!?!
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[] kamoras undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtheshittyonesaretheonlyones90%canafford,sowhatsthattellus?
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[] URRongIMRite 406points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKgotwhackedbyacombinationofthemob,Texasoilmen(ledbyLBJ),andtheCIA.
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[] JibFlank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IftheCIAreallywasresponsibleforhisdeathwouldn'ttheyhavestagedaheartattackorsomething?Shootinghimintheheadin
daylightinfrontofthousandsofpeopledoesn'treallyscream"conspiracy".
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[] URRongIMRite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youobviouslyhavenoideathatduringthe50'sand60's,theCIAwentaroundassassinatingtonsofpeoplelikethat,oratleast
tryingto.Andhowwouldtheystageaheartattack,andforsomeonethatyoungandhealthy?Thatmakesnosense.No,theykilled
him,andtheydidareallyshittyjobofitto.Itjustspeakstotheirpropagandaskillsthattheygotawaywithit...thatandthefactthat
Americansinnowaywanttobelievethatactuallyhappened.
Itwasaconspiracy.Aconspiracytoassassinatethepresident."Conspiracy"doesn'tmeanfake.
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[] buriedcompass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Search'EvidenceofRevision'onYouTube.
Longbutfascinating.
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Lookfurtherintotheassassination.Thesuccessfulonewasoneofthethreeattemptsthatyear.TheothersinChicagoandMiami(or
maybeNewOrleans,gottalookthisuplater).ThisseemslikeMobandCubansattemptingthings,withtheDallascrewdoingthejob.
ThemobandCubansmightnothavedonethedeed,theyjustattemptedto.Thismightbetheconfusionbehindwhodidit.
Threeattemptsinoneyearalsomakesitclearitwasn'tjustalonenut.
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Ididabunchofresearchafewyearsbackforaschoolproject.MyconclusionwasthatithadtodowiththeCIA(SpecificallyGHW
Bushwhowastheheadatthetime)andthemob.Neverheardaboutoilthough.
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AnimportantTexasoilfamilyalsohadmanypeopleofimportanceintheCIAatthetime.TheBushfamily.I'veseensomethingonhere
thatshowedHWbushbeinginthetownJFKwasshotwhenithappened,I'lllookforit.
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ThevideoIlinkedtoisexactlythat.
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Crazyshitmyfriend.
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[] tylerfawkes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethatperhapsevenhisfather,JosephP.KennedySr.,mighthavehadsomethingtodowithJFK'sassassination.Perhapshe
didnotorderit,butIwouldbetthatheknewitwasgoingtohappen.Hewasavery,veryshadycharacterwhohaddealingswithalotof
badpeople.Hissonwashisantithesis.WhileJFKmayhavedonesomeshadystuff,mostlyhiswomanizing,Ibelievehereallyand
trulycaredabouttheUnitedStatesandit'scitizens.IMHOhewasthelastPresidenttotrulybewhataPresidentshouldbe.Thisiswhy
hewaskilled.Hebetrayedhisfather,thusbetrayingthequestionableorganizationshisfatherhaddealingswith.Ialsodonotbelieve
Oswaldactedalone,ormaybeatall(fallguy),hencethereasonhewaskilledbyRuby.IalsobelieveLBJknew,andhadabighandin
it.PerhapsduetoJFK'sreluctancetoescalateAmerica'sinvolvementinVietnam.Whoknowsifwewilleverknowtherealtruth?Also,
regardingwhatIsaidaboveaboutJFK.Iamnotsayinghe,norhisadministrationwasalwayscompletelyhonestwiththeAmerican
people.Iamsurethereweresomeshadydealingsgoingonfromtimetotime.However,Ibelievethatanywrongdoingsthatweredone
underhisadministration/orders,wereseenasthelesseroftwoevilsperhapsand/orhetrulybelievedthatitwaswhatwasbestforthe
UnitedStates.
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IwasactuallygoingtopostsomethingabouthowLBJlikelyhadsomesortofinvolvementinJFK'sassassination.Thedudewasknown
forusinghisaggressivenesstogethisway,Iwouldn'tbesurprisedwhatamanofhiscaliberwoulddoforthatkindofpower.
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[] golfwanghooligan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Saving
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[] Threestrands undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewho'sdonealotofresearchonthistopicthisdocumentaryIMOisamixedbag.Ithassomeverygoodpointsbutatthe
sametimealotofitisfantasticalhogwash
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Youcan'tsaysomethinglikethatwithoutreferencinganything.Yourcommentdoesnothingforanything.It'slikesaying"after
lookingintomyself,I'vefoundthatitsometimesisanditsometimesisn't."
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[] Threestrands undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellthestuffaboutGayNazi'sprettymuchtakingovertheU.Sisabittoooffformeandtheirwholepartwheretheyactually
talkabouttheassassinationopIthinktheyhavewaytoomanyguysasshooters.Buttheydopointoutexcellentthingssuch
astheinvolvementoftheMobandDidexcellentworkatthebrainswitchingandhowtheydoctoredhimuppart
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Idon'tseewhat'ssohardtobelieveaboutthegayNazistuff.LookintoSkullandBonesabitmore.
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[] lookingclosely undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisismyabsolutefavoriteconspiracypiece.
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[] salmon10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NottomentionFrankSinatra
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[] SCM1992 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihatewatchingvideos...isthereatranscriptwithlinks?
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[] crackedrepair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelieveithadmoretodowithJohnsonwantingmorepowerandputtingmoreofanimpressionwiththemilitaryindustrialcomplex
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It'smostlyduetoJFKtryingtodestroytheCIA.They'retheoneswhoneededittohappenmost,buttheygototherswhocould
benefittohelpthemforobviousreasons.
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[] ProfessorPayne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknewLeBronwasbehindit
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[] Redditor1230 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhywouldLebronJamesdothat?!?
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[] CaptStiches21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isubscribetothe"accidentalheadshotfromhisownbodyguard"theory.OriginalproposedinthebookMortalErrorbyBonar
Menninger,andIbelievetherewasadocumentaryexpandingonthetheory.
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[] TychoTiberius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenwhydidOswaldfleethesceneandshootacopthattriedtoarresthim?Idon'tthinkthereisastrongcaseforOswaldnot
beingtheshooter.TherealconspiracyiswhowasheworkingforandwhohadOswaldkilled?
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No,accordingtothetheoryOswaldshothimandhewaswounded,butaSecretServiceagenttriedtoshootOswaldand
endedupkillingJFK.
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[] CaptStiches21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inthetheory,OswalddoesshootandhitKennedy,butthekillingshot,theonethatblowshisheadopen,wascausedbya
fragmentingroundfromtheguardcarbehindhim.Thegunwasoutandreadyinresponsetothefirstshot.
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[] Lozzif undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheSecretServicetheoryisthemostmindnumbingmystupidthingI'veeverheard.Ican'tbelieveit'sbackinfavor.
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[] Hemansno1fan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,it'scalled"TheSmokingGun"andit'sonNetflix,it'smyfavoritetheorynowtoo.Everythingseemstomakesense...
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What,washeshootingatgremlinsonthebackofthelimo??
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[] gods_prototype undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obviouslynotgremlins,theywouldn'tsurvivethesunlight.Unlesshewasshootingattheremainsofameltedgremlin,but
whyhewouldbeshootingameltedglobofgooisbeyondme.
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Gremlinswithfullbodysuits,likeAsiansatthebeach.
Check.Mate.
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[] Hemansno1fan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,it'scalled"TheSmokingGun"andit'sonNetflix,it'smyfavoritetheorynowtoo.Everythingseemstomakesense...
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[] borutgers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butonlyoneguyshothimhowdoesthatworkbro?
busted
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Alloftheactualforensicevidencedisprovestheloneshootertheory.It'scertainthatthereweremultipleshooters.
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[] CatsMeowker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
[citationneeded]
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Ialreadycitedit.
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Noit'snot.It'sreally,reallynot.
ALLevidenceshowsthatKennedyandConnolywereshotbythesamegun.
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That'sabsolutelylaughable.Literallynoonebutidiotsbelievethat.
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Somajorityoftheexpertsintheirfieldsareidiots?Majorityoftheexpertsintheirfieldsover50yearswhobelieve
thatareidiots?
Theonlyoneswhodon'tbelieveitaretheidiots.
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[] MontyWeb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyoutellingmetwogroupscan'tconspiretogetherusingoneassassin?
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[] Capitalistfloop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasshotmorethanonce
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[] jakub_h undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasshot129times,ifyouwanttobeaccurate.
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[] wesenater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneheldtherifle,theotheronelookedthroughthescopeandthelastonepulledthetrigger.Checkmateatheits
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[] SnowballAxe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
God,JesusandtheDevil.
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[] chillingniples undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
soundscool.i'llhavetolookintothatmore.anygoodplacesyouknowoftolearnaboutit?
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Thisisonedocumentarythat'sjustchocfullofallsortsoflittledetailsthathelpexplainwhoallwaslikelybehindtheassassination
andwhy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6avaNM&feature=youtu.be
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[] tbos92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfeellikeIneedtowarnyou.SeriousacademicresearchontheJFKassassinationhasverymuchdebunkedthetheories(inb4the
lazynondefenseofsaying"ohwellthey'rejustpartoftheconspiracy).Virtuallyeverythingyouwillseeaboutthemwillbeso
skeweditmakesme,asahistorian,sicktomystomachtoread.Also,thereisamarkedincreaseinthepercentoftheUS
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populationthatbelieveinthemainconspiracytheoryinrelationtothereleaseofOliverStone'sJFK(tobefairitwashighleadingup
toit,butthereisajumpfromit).
Personally,noneoftheevidenceholdswater.Sourcesinfavorofconspiracyaremostlybiasedashellorbasicallyinvented.Some
thingsdon'tevenholduptocommonsensereally.
Mostimportantly,Ithinkthatthefacttherearesodamnmanyversionsoftheconspiracyjustgoestoshowthatthereisn'treally
anythingtothemotherwisetheevidencewouldpointtothesameconclusions.
Believewhatyouwant,butdon'tdosobecauseyoureaditonsomedudeswebpage.
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See,buttheusgovernmentwasfoundguiltyofkillingmlkbyaMissourijudge.Whatmakesyouthinktheywouldn'tkilljfk?
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FromtheminuteIspentlookingintothis,itappearsthatthewaytheprosecutionframedthecasetheydidnot
specificallycalloutanyagencyoranyspecificpersoninthefederalgovernment.Norwereanymadepartytothesuit,
sothismeantthattherewasnocounterevidence.Apparentlyalocalassistantdistrictattorneysaidthatthecase
"overlookedsomuchcontradictoryevidencethatneverwaspresented"andwasthereforeflawed.
Also,justbecauseajuryorjudgemakesarulingorverdictdoesn'tmeanitistrue.Howmanypeoplehavebeen
wronglyimprisoned?HowmanywhitesthroughoutUShistorywerefoundnotguiltyoflynchingsdespiteoverwhelming
evidence?
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IsitalrightifIaskwhatissoflimsyaboutit?Ipersonallybelievealotofconspiracytheroriesbutamopentohavingmyview
changed.
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You'llhavetoforgivemebecauseIamnotanAmericanisthistorianandsoIdonotdealwithmid20thcenturyUSso
myknowledgeofspecificnamesofsomeofthepeopleinvolvedaren'tthatgreat.Icangiveasortofrunninglistof
thingsthatIamfamiliarwiththough.
Ithinkitwasoneofthemen(again,notanAmericanistdon'trecallthename)whowasprominentintheWarren
CommissionthatpeopleoftenpointtobecausethereisabeliefthathewasamortalenemyofKennedy.Whileit
wastruethatearlierintheirpoliticalcareerstheyfeudedabittheywereactuallyreallygoodfriendsandKennedy
hadgivenhimpostsinhisadministration.
Somepeopleclaimonemancouldn'tshootthatmanyroundsoffthatquickwithacheapboltactionrifle.Atrained
Marine(asOswaldwas)coulddosoeasily.
Thereisaclaimthat"many"peopleheardmorethantheofficialnumberofshotswhileitistruethatmanydid
reportthistheoverwhelmingmajorityofpeoplereportedhearingtheofficialnumber
TheinterviewsdonewithmedicalstaffthatdeclaredthewoundtoKennedy'sheadtohavecomefromthe
oppositedirectionastheofficialoneisquiteliterallyliketossingacoin.Studieshavebeendoneandnormal
hospitalstaffhaveabouta50/50chanceoftellingwhetherornotawoundistheentryorexitpoint.
Toreiterate,thattherearesomanydividedopinionsonwhowasinvolvedjustdoesn'thelpgivecredittothe
generaltheorythattherewassomeoneelseinvolved.Afewofthelargestgroupsthoughttobeinvolvedwere:
Mafia/OrganizedCrime(13%),USGov(13%),CIA(7%),Castro/Cuba(5%),Nonspecificspecialinterests(5%),
Nonspecificpoliticalgroups(5%),KKK(3%),LBJ(3%),USSR(3%),andsoontoincludethingsliketheFBI,
SecretService,Laborunions,etc.
Oh,alsoalotofpeoplepointtotheSecretServiceagentsspreadingouttowardvariouspointsaroundthescene
settingupaperimeterandcheckingvariouslocationsisn'texactlyastrangethingtodointhatkindofsituation,
especiallyifitisn'timmediatelyclearintheconfusionandshorttimeframewherefireiscomingfrom.
IwishIcouldrememberthenameoftheAmericanisthistorianwhoworksonJFKconspiraciessoIcouldreferyoutohis
work,Ican'tevenrememberwhereheisaprofessorat.
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Themainthingthathasalwaysbotheredmeistheconditionofthesupposedbullet.Howcoulditgothroughso
muchboneandlooksogood?Howcoulda6.5mmroundnosedfullycopperjacketbulletbeinsuchgood
condition?Isthereactualexperimentalevidencethatitcouldlookthatwayotherthanbeingbeingshotthrough
gelatin?
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Indeed.Debunkersmaybringupconjectureaboutthattypeofbulletbeingstrongandsturdy,butihavenot
seenanyexperimentalevidenceofthattypeofbulletpassingthroughsomanylayersoffleshand
appearinginsuchgoodcondition.Itlookslikeitwasshotthroughgelatin,retrieved,andplanted.
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VeryGood,informativepost.Iagreeontheexplanationalso.Mostconspiracytheoriesbecausepeopledon't
understandthesituationorsystem,likethinkingtheirisanilluminatilikegrouporthattherichpurposelymake
schoolsbad,andwant2things.Tothinktheydounderstanditwell,andtothinkbadthingsdon'tjusthappenasa
matterofcourseinhumanlife,butarecausedbyevilmen.
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Backandtotheleft,man.
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WhatdoyouthinkaboutthetheorythatJFK'sbackwoundwasloweredtomakethebulletholeslineuptothedepository?
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Thatjustsoundsquestionabletome.Idon'tknowifIamentirelyclearonwhatyouaresayingbutitsoundstomelike
youaresayingthathehadabackwound,buttheysurgicallyaltereditonhiscadavertolineitupbetter?
Honestly,soundslikegrabbingatstrawstome.Iimagineitlikelycamefromsomeonebeingpresentedwithevidence
thatthewounddidlineupwiththedepositoryandthuscameupwithanewtheorytomaintainthebeliefinthe
conspiracy.
Deeplyheldbeliefsthatyouhaveheavilyinvestedinareunshakable.Theyarethefoundationofyourworldviewand
existence.Thisgoesforanythingfromaconspiracytheorytoeverydaythingslikeabeliefindemocraticvalues.You've
sunkensomuchcostintothemthatevenifconfrontedwithdamningevidenceyou'llretrenchyourself99%ofthetime
becauseitgivesuscomforttothinkweknoweverythingandthatwearerightinthisworldandothersarewrong.Ihope
thatmakessense,I'mahistorianandnotapsychologistbutbeliefandideologyfactoringreatlytothesocialsciences.
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Basically,thesinglebullettheoryrequiresJFK'srearbulletholetobeonhislowerneck,howeverthereis
considerableevidencethatthebulletholewasloweronhisbackatanangletoolowtobefromthedepository.
WarrenCommissiondrawing
Secondwarrencommissiondrawing
JFK'sshirtwithbulletholeinlowerarea(hisshirtwaswelltailoredandtuckedintohispants)
Autopsydiagram
JFK'scoat
Autopsyphotographofbackwound
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Ahokay,IthinkIknowwhatyouarereferringtonow.So,fromwhatIunderstandandhaveseen,thistheory
assumesthatthemotorcadewasusingastockvehicle(IthinkitwasaBuick?).However,thepresidential
vehiclehadaraisedbackseat(by3inches),thusraisingthepresidenthigher.So,thereforethebullet
woundwouldnotneedtobethroughthelowerneckbutthemiddleoftheshoulderregionwhereitis
shownintheautopsyandinhisclothing.Accountingforthe3inheightvariationalsogivesthebulleta
trajectorythatdispelsthe"magicbullet"concernsomethingthatevensomemembersofthecommission
couldn'treconcile.
Isuspectthatthe1stWarrenCommissiondrawingisanillustrationmeanttodemonstratethebullet
trajectoryhadthecarbeenstockandnothadaraisedbackseat?Obviouslyoutofcontextofthereport
itselfIcan'tknowforsure.Otherwise,ifthiswassuchagrandconspiracy,wouldthecommissionreally
messupthatbadtoshowanillustrationthatdidn'tmatchtheofficialstory?
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No,that'sthe"magicbullettheory"thathasbeenlongadebunkedcriticism.Evenattheanglethey
weresittinginthelimoziene,there'snowayhisbackwoundcouldbealmostlevel(orevenlower)than
histhroatwound.Bothwoundscould'veverywellbeencausedbydifferentbullets.
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FromwhatIamseeingtherearen'ttwowounds(asidefromtheheadshot).IfIamreadingyour
commentcorrectlyyouaresayingthatthereisbothaneckandbackbulletwound?
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IseeyouwatchedthesamedocumentaryasmeonNetflix.
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[] Bot12391 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsinteresting.Name?
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[] kamac95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysureit'sDarkLegacy,butI'mnottotallysure.Mybuddymademewatchitliketwosummersago.It'sallabouthow
theBushfamilywasahugepartoftheJFKassassination.
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[] Failsnail64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKhttp://imdb.com/rg/an_share/title/title/tt0102138/
Idon'tknowifit'stheonethey'rereferringto.Butthisdocumentaryisverygood.
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Thisisoneofmyfavoriteclipsever.
DonaldSutherlandlaysitallout
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3432330/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
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Lebronjames?
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Notsureifserious,willclarifyanyway:LindonB.Johnson
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theCIA
I'mignorant,pleaseelaborate.
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Bane?
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Thereneedstobea/bestofforedits
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DarkLegacyonyoutube.
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Ifyouwereseriousaboutthis,theconspiracytheoristssaythattheCIAwasangrywithJFK'shandlingoftheCubasituation.After
thefailedBayofPigsoperation,theCIAwantedtocontinueplanningtoinvade/overthrowCastro,whichincludedrecruitingCuban
exilesandmembersofthemafia.JFK'shandlingoftheCubanMissileCrisisshowedthathewasn'tgoingtobebossedaroundby
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elementsofthemilitary/CIAwhoadvocatedamoreaggressivepolicytowardsCuba/Castro/theUSSR.Atthispointconspiracy
theoristsarguethattheCIAdecidedtogoafterJFKinordertogetLBJasPresident.
TLDR:justwatchOliverStone'sJFK.It'sthemostentertainingofthetinfoilconspiracyexplanationsofwhathappened.
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TLDR:justwatchOliverStone'sJFK.It'sthemostentertainingofthetinfoilconspiracyexplanationsofwhathappened.
Gonnahavetodisagreehere.It'sokforit'sentertainmentbutitgoesbeyondconspiracytheoryanddeepintoHollywood
theatrics.IwouldrecommendDarkLegacy
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HereisaquickvideoCGPGreydidthatexplainsthatconspiracytheory.
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OperationNorthwoods
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Iprefertheedit:SorryIhavedownsyndrome
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CheckoutDarkLegacyonNetflix.
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Hereitisonyoutube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNutyu3ypDo
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CrapinAction
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CentralIntelligenceAgency
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Gavehimwhatheaskedfor.Theungratefulclitspit.
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:)
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[] tomboyforlife 4points
yep.totallyagree.
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[] stayinginrabbithole 1798points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smyowntheorysoI'mnotsureifitstands,but:HarryStylesandTaylorSwift'smanagementsdeliberatelycreateda"relationship"
betweenthemsothattheycouldeachcoveruptheirclientsactualsexualitiesandthenpushtheHaylornarrativewhenevereitherof
thembegantosteerfromtheirheterosexual'act'.
Iknow,itsoundsmad,buttherehavebeenproveninconsistenciesinthetimeline.Themostinfamousishersong,IKnewYouWere
Trouble.SheclaimedthatthiswaswrittenaboutStylesandwentpublicwithadigabouthim/itatsomemusicaward.Buuuutsomeof
herfanspointedoutthatthesongwaswrittenninemonthsbeforetheyevenstarted"dating"andwasincirculationonradiostationstwo
monthsbeforetheywerefirstseen"dating".Also,there'snodenyingit,althoughalittlehunguponexessheisaqualitysongwriter.I
highlydoubtwhenyoucomparesomeofhersongs/lyricsthatshe'dbesoobviousastoentitleoneavariationofhisname(Style)for
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thenewspaperstograbontoandmake1000storiesoutof.Thenthere'sthedeliberatenodtoherinoneoftheirnewsingles,Perfect.
It'sjustfartoopublicandobvious.
Additionallyandrathermoremeekly,perhaps,afewofherdiehardfansalongtimeagoraisedquestionsaboutoneofhersongs,
Wonderland.Shewasspottedwithherusualgirlcliquelike,allthetimelatelastyearanditincludedonemysterygirlthatnobodyreally
knewwhohadaTumblrURLentitled"downtherabbithole".InWonderlandtheentiresongisanAliceinWonderlandsemanticfield
aboutacontroversialrelationshipandincludesthelyric,yepyouguessedit,"wefelldownarabbithole."Reaching,perhaps,but
certainlyalittleintriguing.
They'vebothhadgayrumours:hisflamboyantdresssenseandprancingaroundstagedrapedinrainbowflagsisdoingnothingto
asserthisheterosexuality...Plusanyfemalehe's"linked"withisalwaysdebunkedaroundamonthlaterasalie:SeetheNicole
Scherzingerstory.Forhertherewasthatwholemystery"kiss"situationwithKarlieKlossandthebedroom/shrineadornedwithpictures
ofthem.There'salsothelyric"youcanwantwhoyouwantboysandboysandgirlsandgirls"inoneofherlatestsongs.Plusherwhole
relationshipwithCHarrisisbizarre:oneminuteshe'sdumpedhimbecausehe'sbeenvisitingChinesemassageparlourswith"happy
endings"repeatedly,thenthenext,they'rebacktogetheraftergettingtogetherseeminglyoutofnowhere.
Saywhatyoulike,butI'mprettysureit'saconvenientandderivednarrativecoercedbetweenmanagementstokeepthemappealingto
theirrespectivefanbases.TeenagegirlslikeTSwiftmostlybecauseshesingsaboutboysandtheycanrelatetohersituation,girlslike
Stylesbecausetheythinkthey'reinwithachanceofbeinghisgirl,especiallywhenontheirappearanceonEllenheadmittedto"dating
afan."Anythingelseandthatguapwoulddwindle.
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Youcan'ttakelyricsforgranted,theysaywhatsellsrecords
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IreadthattohearabouthowTSwizisalesbianI'mnotinterestedinthegayoneerectionthing
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Reallydidn'tthinkI'dfindaLarrypostonreddit.
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TaylorSwifthasthemostbrilliantPRteam.I'mconvinced99%ofherpublicpersonaisnothinglikeheractualself.
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Aguyfromaboybandturningouttobegay?Unheardof!
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Thistotallymakessense.Herwhole"celebrationofwomen"thingthat'spartofheractisalittle....Gay.
Shewilladmititassoonasherpopularityandprofitabilitydips.ThenshewillreinventherselfasthegayerTS.
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IthinkitwouldbegreatforheralreadyboomingcareerifshecameoutasBi.Howmanyteenageboysandgirlswouldcrusheven
harder?
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IthoughtIKnewYouWereTroublewasaboutJakeGyllenhaal
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nopethatwasWeAreNeverGettingBackTogetherassomeonehelpfullyinformedmeyesterday
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[] grandwahs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhavenothoughtsonStylesbutwithSwiftIactuallythinkshe'sasexualandhasnodesireformenorwomenonewayoranother.
That'swhyshecomesacrossassowoodenandinoffensive.Buttherehastobesomesemblanceofalovelifetokeepherinthe
headlines,soit'sallmadeup.
UltimatelyIthinkshe'sjustanattractive,talentedhumanrobotwhodoesn'tfitconventionalmoldsthatthecommercializedmusicworld
isn'tquitereadytoacceptyet.
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Ifalltheconspiraciesinthispost,thisIdefinitelytheoneIgiveleastshitsabout.
Nooffense,OP
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I'mmoreoffendedbyyoutakingtwominsoutofyourdaytoindirectlyinsultthepostviaincoherentsyntax.
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[] Mr_Luciferiuss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FelldowntherabbitholewasDianaAgronsblogname,thatwasdeactivatedsometimeago.
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Okay,that'sprettygood.Butthere'sjustonelittleproblem.
WhotheheckisHarryStyles?
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[] scallywagmcbuttnuggt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoseeBeiberandSelenaGomez.
NotthatIthinkeitherishomosexual(maybebiebs)butthey'rerelationshipwasobviouslyfake.OnetimeEllendegenerateasked
SelenahowthingsweregoingwithJustinandshejustmadeastinkfaceandsomecommentabouthowsheseeshimlikealittlebro
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Idoubtthey'retryingtohidetheirsexuality,butIdon'tdoubtthatmanycelebrityrelationshipsarefabricated,andTaylorSwiftandHarry
Stylesaretheprimeexampleofthat.
SelenaGomezandJustinBiebertoo.Bothhavewrittensongsaboutit,theytalkabouteachotherconstantlyininterviews,etc.Then
they'reseenhangingoutwiththeirnewSO'sintow.Ithinkthey'rejustgoodfriendsandthey'remilkingthelovestoryforallit'sworth.
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Iknewindirectlysomesmalltimeperformingartists,nowherenearthelevelofstardomthesetwohave,whowereforcedby
managementtomaintainfakeheterosexualrelationshipspubliclywhilenotonlybeinggaybutactivelyhavingasamesexsignificant
other.Theindustryasawholeknowsofandacceptsthispractice.Yourtheorycouldtotallybevalid.Ilookforwardtothedaywhena
youngartistcanbehimorherselfandbeacceptedandloved.Thisobviousissueasyoupointout,isthatagayteenwon'tdrawscores
ofgirlsthinkingtheymighthaveashothowevertothatIcounterwithTylerOakley,andthedozensofhugelyfamousLGBTYouTubers
drawingfollowingsinthemillionsmostlyofteengirls.
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Thereisalsoallthehomoeroticbehaviorthewhole1Dbandexhibits.AssgrabbingandDickfondlingonstage.Thecandythongthing.
Idon'tknowwhyIknowanyofthat.
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Somanyholesinthistheory!IKnewYouWereTroubleisactuallyaboutJohnMayer,becauseeveryone(inclhermother)warnedher
abouthimwhentheystarteddating,butshedatedhimanywaysandgotburned.AlotofSwiftfanslike,knew/assumed/whateverthatit
wasaboutMayerandthenallofsuddenitwaslike"wellknown"thatitwasaboutStylesbutIhavenocluewherethatideacamefrom.
Toftencastsguysinhermusicvideosthatlookliketheguythesongisabout,theIKYWTdudelooksjuuustlikeMayer.
Andthewholethingabout'Style'beingweirdbcithashisnameinit?Please!Shehasputguys'namesinsongsorlinernotes*before,
PLENTYoftimes.TeardropsonmyGuitar(Drew,dudefromHS),BacktoDecember(TaylorLautner),DearJonh(JohnMayer),Hey
Stephen(StephenBarkerLilesfromLoveandTherf),Enchanted(AdamYoungakaOwlCity).
Thewhole"ShekissedKarlieataconcert!They'regayforeachother!"thingisalsosuuuuchBS.Honestly,Igenuinelybelievesheis
actuallyforrealandnotapublicitystuntdatingCalvinHarris,butifitcameoutthatitwasfake,Iwouldn'tbeSHOCKEDforavarietyof
reasons,butthewhole"It'sacoverupcauseshe'sgayforKarlie!"thingissofake.Peopleforgetthatittakestwototango,andKarlie
hasbeeninalongtermrelationshipwithherboyfriendforthreeyears.
AndfromHarry'sstyle...He's"flamboyant"?Alright...Heiswithadifferentgirleverymonth?It'scalledbeingyoung,hot,andnotinto
commitment.Everyoneknowsaguyorgirlwho'slikethat,jumpingfromonerelationshiporflingtothenext.It'snotthatweird.Any
nightheperformshehasliterallythousandsofgirlsscreaminghisname.Plus,hesuffersfromthesamemediaaffectthatTdoes:any
personoftheoppositesextheyareseenwith,it'sautomaticallyarelationship,wheninrealityitcouldjustbefriendshipordating.So
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yeah,hisshitgets"debunked"thenextmonth,butcomeon...Howmuchofitwasrealactualdatesetc.Probablyveryfew!
*Onallheralbumbookletthings,thelyricsareinlowercaseexceptforrandomletters.Ifyouputthelettersineachorder,eachsong
hasamessage.
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Ifthisturnsouttobetrue,herpublicistsareliterallyPRgodstatus.
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Wowthat'salotofwords
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[] senatorknope undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itincludedonemysterygirlthatnobodyreallyknewwhohadaTumblrURLentitled"downtherabbithole"
don'tpeoplethinkthissongisaboutDiannaAgron?Shewasprettyfamousatthetime.
AsmuchasI'dlovetobelievethis,Ihaveahardtimewiththeseconspiraciesbecausethere'salotof"straightsavior"stuffthatgoes
aroundtheinternetabout1Dmembers(mostlypeoplewhoareconvincedHarryandLouisaredating).Fansaredesperatelytryingto
tellthemit'sokaytocomeout,holdingupexplicitsignsatconcerts,thinkingfanswhodon'tbelieveitare"sheeple",etc.It'sreally
invasiveandintenseimo.They'readults,andiftheyaregayandhaven'tcomeoutforwhateverreasontheircareers,maintaining
privatelife,etc.it'stheirchoice.IfthereisPRinvolvementinmaintainingaheterosexualimage,itwouldbeauthorizedbythepeople
involved.Peopleforgetthatifthereisanimagetomaintainitalsobenefitstheartistbecausetheydon'truntheriskoflosingouton
money.It'snotinnocentchildrenbeingheldhostagebyevilmenovertheirheads.Anyway,fansshouldrespecttheirboundariesimo.
I'dneverwanttokeepmysexualityasecretifIwasfamous,butifIdid,thethoughtofpeoplebeingthatobsessedwithitmakesmefeel
soanxious.
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NeitheramI,Liz!.Sorryforpotatovideo,butthisiscommonplacestuff.
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[] AL_DENTE_OR_NOTHING undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TaylorSwifthadafakePRrelationshipwithTaylorLautner.Thisisverycommoninthebusinesswhencelebshaveaprojectcoming
out.
Source:Iknowsomeoneveryclosetothem
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Thisisthemostindepthandinterestingpostinthiswholethread.
ThoughapartofmewillbeguttedifitturnsoutIhavenochancewithTSwizzle.
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Addingontothis,rumoursofTaylor'shomosexualityhaveactuallybeengoingonforyears,evenbackbeforeLoveStoryhittheradio.
Whenshewastouringforherdebutalbum,shewasextremelyclosewithoneofherbandmembers,EmilyPoe.There'satributevideo
toEmilyfloatingaroundthatTaylorherselfmade,andthereseemstobesomestrongfeelingsthere,tosaytheleast.
Thenallofasudden,Emilyleftthebandinmysteriouscircumstances.Rumoursarerifeaboutwhatwentdown,butpeoplesayTaylor's
parentsaskedhertoleave.Forwhatreason,wedon'tknow,butyoucanimaginehowalotofpeoplehavefilledintheblanks.
Also,thesongBreathefromFearlessiswidelyacceptedtobeaboutEmily.There'salsorumoursthatLoveStoryisabouthertoo.
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NotreallyasecretthatmostofTaylor'srelationshipswerepublicistarrangedbeardingpositions.AsforTaylorbeingalesbian,I
couldn'tsay,butshecertainlyreapsalotofpublicityandsongfodderbydatingclosetedgayguys(who,ofcourse,aremuchmore
willingtoputupwithit.)
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Finally,anotherpersonwhothinksTSwiftisdefinitelygay!Ohmygod!Like,she'sbestfriendswithEllen,amiddleagedlesbianwho
sheseeminglyhasnothingincommonwith,theWelcometoNYlyric,herlackofsteadyrelationshipswithmensomeofwhichare
clearlyjustPRwork,she'sgotthatline"Iknowplaceswecanhide",Ijust....I'msogladtofindsomeoneelsewhobelievesinthis
conspiracy!Imean,Iloveherandhermusic,butwhenyouthinkaboutherlifewiththislittlespinonit,itjustmakessomuchsense!
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Whywouldtheywanttodothatthough,itisn'tthatbigadealforcelebritiestobegayanymore.Ifanythingcomingoutwouldbejust
goodpublicityforthebothofthem.
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Hollywoodhasbeendoingthisshitfordecades.Also,getalife.Orbetterconspiracies.
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Icouldseethisbeingthatcase,butit'sonlytogeneratebuzzaboutbothofthem(thishappensallthetime!),ratherthancover
somethingup.But,IabsolutelycannotbuytheideathatTaylorSwiftisanythingbustraight.EvenJayZandBeyonce,imoismoreofa
businessrelationshipthananactualmarriage.FromwhatI'veread,theyargueoftenbutstaytogetherbecausetheyaremorepowerful
togetherthanapart.
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Ohtrustme,EVERYONEsaysdifferentsongsareaboutHarry.I'veheardStyle,I'veheardOutoftheWoods,peopleliketomakeup
shitabouthersongs.Inreality,yesshesometimeswritesaboutpastbreakups,butthatdoesn'tmeanthatALLhersongsare
completelyandwholeheartedlyaboutherreallife.Sometimesshe'sjustimaginingscenariosforthesongs.Shesayssoininterviews
andtalksabouthernewreleases.IreallyloveTaylorandIhateitwhenpeopleimmediatelythinkshe'sjustaboutherbreakupsongs,
becauseshe'sanamazingwriterwhocanreallycreatebeautifulatmospheresandscenariosinyourheadwithjustsonglyrics!
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HolyfuckIlovethis.IneverreallyboughtintoTaylor/Harry.AndI'vehadmysuspicionsaboutherbeingatleastbisexual.Thistheory
putsanewmeaningtoIKnowPlaces,whichissupposedlyaboutHarryandhowtheirrelationshipworkedwith/aroundthemedia.
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Soyou'veneverheardofa"beard?"
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Aslongastheyareyoung,Ithinkit'sfineandfun.Whentheygetolder,therewillbethebitterLesbiandramaandsuch...Hopefully
they'llbepastitallbythen.
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IlikeTaylorSwiftandI'mprettydamnedsureshescissorswithKloss.
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PlusIbelieveshe'sgoneonrecordseveraltimesthatshekeepswhohersongsareaboutamystery,peoplealwaysmakeguesses.
Forhertobedeliberateaboutthisoneisoutofcharacter
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[] bdoomed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydoesanyofthismatter?That'salotofdiggingandthinkingforsomeoneelse'slifethatdoesn'taffectyouinanyway.
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TaylorSwiftmightbealesbian?I'llbeinmyroom
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It'sdisturbingthatsomebodycaresthismuchabouttwopopsingerswhomakesongsfor12yearoldgirls.
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I'vespentthelastneardecadeonEDMandhaveworkedoffandonwithCalvinovertheyears.It'snosecrethehasseriousyellow
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feverandcan'tstandhighstrunggirls.Ihaven'tseenhim/workedwithhimsinceWMCtwoyearsagobutIseriouslydoubthe'sdating
her.Idunno,Icouldaskbutitdoesn'tinterestmeandlookskindatacky.
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[] a_bounced_czech undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisistheworstconspiracyI'veeverheard
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[] ImStillYourCat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
althoughalittlehunguponexessheisaqualitysongwriter.
Conspiracyforsure.
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Actually,IreadareallygreattheorythateversinceTaylordatedJohnMayer,ALLofherpublicrelationshipshavebeenPRstunts.In
particular,I'vereadrumorsaboutJoeJonasandConorKennedybothbeinggay,soTaylorwastheirbeard.
ButthattheorywasbasedontheideathatJohnMayergotTaylorpregnant,andshegotanabortiontokeepherimagesqueakyclean.
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[] nakedapedude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SwiftandLordearedating.
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Justoffthetopofmyhead,readingthisIsaidtomyself,"Hmm.TaylorisHarry's'beard'then,eh?"
Cansomeonetellmethetermusedforamanwhofakedatesalesbianwhowishestoremaincloseted?'Brovary?'
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[] ShankingTonberry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allthatandnomentionof"andyoucanwantwhoyouwant,boysandboysandgirlsandgirls"?
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[] PM_ME_YAR_SMILES undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KnewYouWereTrouble
ItwasaboutJohnMayer..Yougotthepremisewrong
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Occam'sRazor.
Selfexplanatory.
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[] 20InMyHead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butwhy?They'retargetagedemographicisoverwhelminglyacceptingofhomosexuality.IfanythingSwiftcomingoutasbiwouldonly
raiseherpopularity.
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HarryStylesisnotstraightandneitherishisbandmate,Louis.Ithoughtitwasacommonfact.
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Isthisreallyanerawhereamusicianhadtohidetheirsexualorientation?ImeanIguessifyou'redoingcountry,sure...
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OMGOMGOMGOMG!!!THEGOVERNMENTSHOULDLOOKINTOTHIS!IT'SSOMUCHMOREIMPORTANTTHATTERRORISM
ORRACISM!!IDEMANDTHATTHEGOVERNMENTSTOPWHATIT'SDOINGTOINVESTIGATE!!
Seriously,child,wringoutyourwetpanties.Ofcourseitwasfake,youtwat.That'showtheygeneratepublicity.
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Taylorswifthasn'twrittenherownsongsinyears.
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[] Skylord_ah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shewroteallthesongsinherspeaknowalbumwithoutcollaborators.Shewroteallthelyricswithhelponthebeatand
instrumentalswithcowriters
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[] RedSunGo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iama30yearoldman,whydidIjustreadthatinitsentirety.Whatiswrongwithme?
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[] TheRealJohnConroy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imeanyoucan'tsaysomeoneisgayjustbecausetheyactflamboyant,that'sstereotyping.Andyeah,Iwouldn'tbesurprisedifLouis
wrotetheline"Andifyou'relookingforsomeonetowriteyourbreakupsongsabout,thenbaby,I'mPerfect."AsHarrysayshedidn't
writethatlineinaninterviewrecently.
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[] Unterbaum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestly,eversinceIsawTSwiftsing"Closer"withTeaganandSara,therewassomethingaboutitthatmademethink,likedude,
she'sprobsatleastbi.
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[] MamaXerxes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptthatitisexceptionallyrareforbigpopactstowritetheirownsongs.
It'spossiblethewritesomeoftheirowntunes,buttheyprobablyhavewriters.
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IwilljustsaythatitwouldbeanINCREDIBLYwellkeptsecretifthatweretrue.Althoughpeoplethatworkathermanagement
companyareparticularlytightlippedabouteverythingworkrelated.
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Interesting....
Also,speakingofhercloserelationshipwithKarlieKloss:therewerealllllthesecrazyfanrumorsaboutKarlieandJourdanDunnbeing
lezziebestiesseveralyearsagowhentheywerebothstartingoutinmodelingandgettingfamous.
_()_/
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[] Iownamovingcastle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TroublewaswrittenprettyopenlyaboutJohnMayerandthentheylatermadeitseemlikeitwasaboutHarryforpress.Sheevenmade
acommentsomewhereabouthowthesonghadtakenonanewmeaning(like,couldnowrelatetoHarryjustlikeitdidwithJohn).
Beyondthat,ItotallybelievesheisatleastbisexualandmostofherrelationshipsarejustforPR.
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[] turkturkelton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Where'sMaxMartininyourtheory?TSwiftdoesn'twritehersongsonherown.
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Yes...Shedoes.Maxmartinonlyhelpedon7ofthe16trackson1989anyway
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[] mightthrowthisaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThissoundsalotlikeFoxglove'sstoryinNeilGaiman'sDeath&Sandmancomics.
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[] erickpasta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IactuallyreadallofthisinMerylStreep'scharacter'svoicefrom"TheDevilWearsPrada."
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Thisisreallywellthoughtout.Interestingpost!IhavetosayasaTaylorSwiftandJohnMayerfan,I'vealwaysbelievedtheir
relationshipwasreal.
Also,myroommatehangsoutwithherbrotheroftenenoughtohavetheinsidescooponTaylor'spersonallife(beentoherhouse,
backstage,hangsoutwithfamilyetc...).HeknowsforafactthatshewasmostdefinitelydatingJakeGyllenhaalaswell.Inotherwords,
there'snoquestionshesleepswithmen.
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[] rgundran87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LARRY
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Imean...ifIwasgay...ImightflystraighttogiveheragojusttomakesureIwasgay.
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[] boggerz93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Withregardstothewholedatingafanthing,hewasdatingan'average'girlfrommyuniversityabout3yearsago.Hecameandvisited
heronenightandafriendofminegotinsideasuitcaseandthenwasdraggedintoherroomwhilestyleswasthereforasortofjoke.On
mobilesoI'llfindalinklatertoapicofthemifyouwant
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[] Bonesnap undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youwritethisassumingthatthoseartistsareresponsibleforwritingandcreatingtheirownmusic.Theyarenot.
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Excepttaylorwrotethesongswhilemaxmartinhelpedherout.Thatshouldbecommonknowledge
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SoisthisallbeingdoneperhapseithersheispopularwiththeChristianteencrowd(isshe?)orwanttokeeptheirCDsinWalmartor
something?
Thereisnoneedforbeardsanymore.
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Ihavenodoubtthat90%ofthethingsyouhearaboutceleb'relationships'arejustsoundbitespushedbysomeagentorpublicist.
It'sallaboutkeepingthatfanbaseinterested.
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IalwaysassumedTaylorwasgay.Anotherlyricfromhersong"Outofthewoods"says"whentheworldwasblackandwhite,wewere
inscreamingcolor."
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[] sssasssafrasss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Y'know,i'vealwayskindasortasuspectedthatTswiftwasqueer...
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Ihavethistheorythatshe'sactuallyinastable,longtermrelationshipwithsomeunknownperson.Allthesepublicshortterm
relationshipsarejustforpublicityandbreakupsongssell.
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[] smokeytheorange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IrememberTaylormetherboyfriendthroughLadyGagawhosaidthey'dbeperfecttogether.Ican'timaginehavingLadyGagaasa
friendandnotcomingouttoher,orLadyGagaasahugegayrightsactivistencouraginghertostayinthecloset.
ButI'veneverevenbeenclosetothesepeoplesoIhavenoidea.
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[] garjuantuan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedefinitelyhassexwithlotsofwomen,thatiscertainlytruesoidoubtheiscloseted
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[] Tigerfairy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This!Asacurrentteenagegirl,Ihappentofollow/knowafairnumberof1Dfangirls,themajorityofwhomhavebuiltentireblogswith
pagesandpagesof'evidence'thata)HarryStylesisgayorbi/panandb)he'sinarelationship/hasbeeninarelationshipwithLouis
Tomlinson.TherewasalsosomeprettybigrumorshappeningaboutarelationshipbetweenTaylorSwiftandCaraDelevingne(untilthe
latter'srelationshipwithSt.Vincentbroke).Itisagoodpointthough,howhomophobicalotofteenagegirlsare.Manyclaimtobe
acceptingorwanta'GBF',orfetishizegaymalecouples,butendupostracizingtheirqueerpeerswhodon'tmeettheirstandards.If
eitherofthemcameout,theywouldlosealotoftheircentralfanbase(though,imo,they'dgainsomefanstoo)andwouldfeelpressure
tofittheveryspecific'gay'moldthat'sexpectedofoutqueerpopstars.Imo,thewaythey'retreatedandmakemoneyfromisn'tvery
differentfromtheidolculturesofJapanandSouthKoreathey'resellingtheirentirelifestyle,includingtherelationships/possibilities
thereofthattheirfanswant.
Though,tocounterallofthis(ormaybesupportit),bothHarryStylesandTaylorSwiftwerekindahomophobicintheirearlycareers...If
Iremembercorrectly,TaylorsaidsomeKatyPerrylevelbullshitwhenshewasyounger...
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Didshe?Doyouhavealink
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[] Stewart_Norway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/taylorswift/picturetoburn.html
Statetheobvious,Ididn'tgetmyperfectfantasy
Irealizeyouloveyourselfmorethanyoucouldeverloveme
SogoandtellyourfriendsthatI'mobsessiveandcrazy
[Albumversionline:]That'sfineI'lltellminethatyou'regay!
[Musicvideoversionline:]That'sfineyouwon'tmindifIsay
Bytheway...
Ihatethatstupidoldpickuptruck....etc
UsingGayasaputdownisnotaveryLGBTfriendlythingtodo.
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[] thesupermikey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Entertainmentbusinesspeople(managementandmedia)havebeenmanufacturingrelationshipsandbattlesbetweencelebritiesfor50
years.
HollywoodisbetterathidingkayfabethenWWE.
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Ithinkit'sprettycrazytothinkTswiftwritesorhasanythingtodowithhersongsasidefromsingthem.
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PRmarriagesarecommon.Seealso:LisaMariePresleyandMichaelJackson.
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[] rlw0312 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kaylor/Larryshipperhere...Itotallyagreewithyou.
AfewmonthsagosomeonepostedonhereaboutTaylorbeingbi,usingevidencefromherrelationshipwithherformerfiddleplayer.I
waslike"Nooooofuckingway",butitdefinitelypiquedmyinterest,soIdidsomegooglinganditjustmakessomuchsensenow.
Andtherearethingsthatareblatantlyobvious...likethelipstickkissesalloverTaylor'sneckandchest,herreleasingsongsaboutguys
beforesheevendatesthem(whoit's"about"isbasicallyconfirmedinhersecretmessagesinthelyricbooks).
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OohIhadn'theardthis,whatfiddleplayer?
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[] waitforit28 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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HernamewasEmilyPoe.SheplayedinTaylor'sbandpreFearless,andsheleftinmysteriouscircumstances.Andsheand
Taylorweresuperclose.There'svideosuponYoutubeofher,andTaylormadetributevideosforherandstufftoo.Also,
Breatheisalmostcertainlyabouther.
Iactuallyrecommendyou(especiallysinceyoustartedthisconspiracyanditsupportsthetheory)dosomeresearchonher
onedayifyou'reextremelybored,it'ssurprisinglyentertaining.Anditmakesasurprisingamountofsense.
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I'llstartthatresearchnowseeingasit'saslowSundayafternoonhere.Thanks!
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[] BeyonceIsBetter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AreyouaLarry?Seriousquestion.I'mbigonTSwift
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[] dance4days undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait,soTaylorSwiftisreleasingsongsaboutboystopushanarrativethatshe'sstraight...andalsoreleasingsongsthataresecretly
aboutgirlsshe'sdatingandhopingnobodyfiguresitout?Sorry,butthatjustdoesn'tmakeanysense.
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Iwouldn'tlikeTaySwizorHarryStyles(don'tactuallyknowwhoheis...)anymoreorlessbasedontheirsexuality.Idolikeyourpost
though.Thanksforanamusing3minutes.
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[] KHiggi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isuspectyou'reactuallytaylororHarryandwantpeopletoknowthetruthsoyoucangaugetheacceptancelevel.Thatoryouarea
hugefanofoneorbothandfollowthemveryclosely
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...Guilty.
Butofwhichone....
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[] KHiggi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hmmm,tswiftwouldenjoyredditIthink
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[] PM_MeYourThoughts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsalesbianI'mreadyforthistobetrue.
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[] defaultsubsaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiswhatpeoplesaybecausetheyknowthey'llneverhaveashotwiththesepeople.Ifyoucan'thavethemNOONEWILL.Their
justfamousandtheyhaveeverything.Theyevenhavenormalsexuality.Dealwithit.
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[] Bart_Dart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhavelinksorsomethingtothetumblraccountorfriendingeneral?Thisisintriguing.
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[] death_by_detox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaandthat'senoughredditfortoday
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[] Fallenangel152 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereweresimilarrumoursaboutCherylwhatshernameandAshleyCole.
Shehadgottenintotroubleforaraciallymotivatedattack,andhe(ablackfootballer)washavingrumoursabouthissexualityflying
round.
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Makessensethathismanagementandherrecordcompanyputthemtogethertoalleviaterumoursthathewasgayandshewasracist.
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[] Etteluor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CherylFernandez,Ithink
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[] paradoxicalparrot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Who.thefuck.cares
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[] Bueller967 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelieveMaxMartincreatedthefeudbetweenTSwiftandKatyPerrytosellmorerecords.Theguywroteandproducedbothoftheir
recentalbums.
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ProbablynotMaxMartinbutdefinitelytheirmanagement/agents/prteamsdid.EverytimeTaylorhasapublicdisagreementwith
someonetheyappeartogethersomewhereevenmorepublicwithin2weeksshowinghowfriendlytheyare(see:nickiminaj,
kanye).TaylorSwiftsPRtriesreallyhardtoprovethatsheiseasytogetalongwithandfriendlywitheveryone.Theonlypeopleshe
hasn'tpubliclymadeupwithareKatyandherEx's.Signspointtoiteitherbeingaploytosellrecordsorsomethingwaydarkerthan
backupdancercontractproblems...
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[] KakariBlue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasawriter*atleastforSwift(whowrotethesongswithhelpfromhimandothers).
Ihavenoideahowtobreakdowntheirrelativecontributions,justpointingoutthathewasn'tthesolewriter.
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Heiscreditedmoresothananyoneelseonbothrecords.
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Swiftiscreditedaswriteroneverysongof1989(13tracks)andMartinonlyon7.Yes,he'stheproducerandhada
hugehandintherecord,butIbelievemyoriginalstatementstandsashedidn'tsolelywritethealbum.
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Alotoftimesartistspaythesongwritertobeaddedontoatrack.sometimestheyjustflatoutbuyasong.Like
Bieberdidwithboyfriend.ItwasoriginallywrittenbyMikePosner.MaxMartinisn'tcreditedwiththemostrecent
numberonesfornoreason.
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Gotcha,butcanwefigurethatoutingeneraloreveninthiscase?Idon'tknowenoughabouttheindustryto
sayforsure(example:IfiguredMartinwascreditedashewasoneofthepeoplewhohadwritercreditsand
that'swhat'scountedwhen'giving'#1songstopeople).
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I'mintheindustrywhichiswhyIknowaslittleasIdo.Taylor'scampwouldbeverytightlippedabout
anythingasblatantasbuyingasong,soIdon'tknowforcertain.It'sjustmylittleconspiracytheory.
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Gotcha,thanksfortheinfoanddiscussion,itwasilluminating!
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Ifyoulistentothe1989listeningsessionsonthegrammywebsite.Itsaysshewrotethesongswithhelpfrom
them
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[] brit8664 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallymuchmorestupidandpedanticthanthat.Theyarefeudingoverbackupdancers.
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Thatsprobablyjustwhattheywantyoutobelieve
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[] closest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactuallyevenworsethanthat.They'refeudingoverJohnMayer,thebackupdancersisonlytheicingonthecake.
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[] becausepandas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
also!inthisvideoofhersingingIKnewYourWereTrouble,shesays"thatSHEneverlovedme"insteadofhe.Imyselfwouldbelieve
hertobebisexualasshehasdefinitelydatedboysinthepastbutIobviouslydon'tknowherpersonallyso
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YesIcompletelyrememberthisbutatthetimeIsortofshruggeditoffasIknowaroundthetimeshewasinthatconcert/event,Gay
Rightshadjustbeenpassedinthecountry,soIfigureditwasanodtotheLGBTQcommunityandalotofotherpeoplesaidthe
samething.Itcouldbeasubtleimplicationatthesametimethough,whoknows!
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[] xavierlamehat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ohgreat,larriesareonredditnowtoo
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[] frontflipryan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Entertaining.Thankyou.
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[] CatInTheRedHat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'salsothisvideo
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[] AnticScarab3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowthatyoumentionit,that'sprobablyfairlycommonforLGBTcelebrities.Whenyou'reitthatbusiness,yourpublicimageisalarge
partofwhatmakesyousuccessful.Unfortunately,comingoutasgayhurtsyourimagewithalotofdemographics,anditdoesn'treally
helpyourimagewithanyofthem.Thelogicalchoiceistojustpretendtobestraight.
Also,I'msurealotofcelebrityrelationshipsaremanufacturedforpublicitypurposes.
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[] nyiil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CanconfirmStylesdoesnotliketheladies.SorryifIamgoingtobreakanyladiesheartsherebut...SimonCowelisgaytoo.Sorry
girls.
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[] GabTej undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whispersLarryisreal...
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[] nyiil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mothman
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[] moartotems undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shewasspottedwithherusualgirlcliquelike,allthetimelatelastyearanditincludedonemysterygirlthatnobodyreallyknew
whohadaTumblrURLentitled"downtherabbithole".
Wasn'tthatDiannaAgron'soldtumblr?
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YESthat'stheone!Iforgothername.ButIdorememberreadingthatherandTaylorhadbeenubercloseandthenthenextday
notsomuch+hertopthatcausedcontroversyinGlee.TherewasalsoarumourshewasdatingoneofthegirlsfromGlee,but
don'tknowhowtrueornotthatis.
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Theshirtwasjustonthetour,soitdidn'treallygetmuchexposurebeyondthat/Tumblr.Ithinkthereweresomerumorswith
herandLeaMichelebackinthedaythough.
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Ok,yeah,that'swhatIcametoaskDiannaAgronisn'treally"somemysterygirl"....
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Imeanshe'snotasfamousasTSwizzle,butbynomeansissherandom.Niceusername!
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Haha,exactly.ShewasprettyrecognizableforawhilewhenshewasonGlee.AndTHANKS!
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There'sanarchiveofitupandsheevenmadeapostaboutherlikesgirlsshirtfromtheGleelivetour.Oh,
memories.ThatsaidIreadagoodreceiptspostafewweeksbackaboutDiannaandTaylor'svisiblefriendship
endingabruptly.Hmmm.
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[] jadeycakes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwas.
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[] closest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aren'tthererumorsofDiannabeingalesbian?Ireadablinditemthatledtoguessesbeingherbecausesheoncewore,"likes
girls"shirtontheGleetourandgotintroubleforit.
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Ithoughtso.Itwasn'tallthatmysterious.ShepostedphotosonitIIRC.
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[] TreatYoSelves undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthebiggestthingontheTaylorcaseisthatshesurroundsherselfwithconventionallybeautifulpeople.She'sratheraverage
lookingherselfbutIfinditveryweirdandalittlecreepythatsheisconstantlyaroundmodelsandyoungerprettygirls.
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[] iEatBluePlayDoh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfindTaylorveryattractiveandwasunawarethiswasn'tcommontothink.
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Youareunawarethatnoteveryoneintheworldhastheexactsametasteasyou?That'sunfortunate.
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I'msayingthatIhaveseenalotofpeoplelatelysaytheydon'tfindherattractive.Ialwaysthoughtshewaspretty
conventionallyattractiveandthatmostpeoplefoundherattractive.
Butthanksforbeingadickaboutit,man.
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Makeupandhairdoesalot.Herbeforepicsareprettygross.
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Shewasalsolike14beforeshewasfamous.Soyeah,itwouldbegrosstofindherattractiveinthose.
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Howisitgrosstonoticewhethersomeoneisattractive?It'snotlikeithastobesexual.I'vesaidto
peopleonmorethanoneoccasionaboutacutekidorhowhe/sheisgoingtobeaheartbreakerwhen
theygrowup.I'vealsosaidtheoppositeaboutkidsbeingugly.YesI'manasshole.
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[] Aryeah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisinterestingasIhaveaguiltypleasureofcertaincelebsgossip,soanswermethis:whataboutherotherexs?Harrywasablipon
Taylor'sradar,areyousayingthatshemightbemanagingallherex'slikethis?Orisitarecentthing?Alsocouldn'tshejustbe
bisexual?Iwouldn'tbesurprisedifshehadalesbianflingbutitmightbejustthat.
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Notatall,Taylorcouldbebisexualforallweknow.Myhypothesisisbaseduponthetwocelebritiesasseparateentitiestheyboth
havefinancestoprotectsoitjustseemsaconvenientcomingtogetherformanagementswhoarefindingwaystodealwiththe
sameissue.
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[] remotectrl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MytheoryisthatshefoundawaytobeasemiprobeardonthesideandwascoveringforpeoplelikeJakeGyllenhaal
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There'sareallyinterestingLouisTherouxdocumentaryondisgracedmediamogulMaxClifford.
Inthathehintsthathehassetupastorysoacelebrityisn'tseenasgay.Icompletelyforgetwhichcelebrityitisthough.
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HerbeingbisexualwouldpotentiallybeanevenbiggerPRheadacheIthink.
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Verytrue.Herdemographic(andtheirparents)wouldcauseariot.ThentheLGBTcommunitywouldwanthertobackthem,
orsupporttheminabiggerwaythentoo.
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T
YoumeantheLG comunity?
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[] someoneelse92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisreallyisn't"yourowntheory"thereareliterallythousandsoffansthatbelievethis,especiallyonharry'sside.andsomeofyour
reasonsforbelievingsoarewrong.firstoff,taylorhasneversaidthatiknewyouweretroublewasaboutharry.it'sprettyobviousthat
it'saboutjohnmayer.second,harryneversaidhedatedafan,hesaidheHOOKEDUPwithafan.verydifferent.andthere'saudio
proofofafanonthephonewithhimandzaynwiththemgivingherdirectionsandafakenametogetintotheirhotel.
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[] doubleobutters undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AssumingTaylorSwiftevenwritesherownsongs.CreditforthesonggoestoherandMaxMartin.He'swrittenpracticallyevery
popularpopsongeverproduced.
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Taylorwroteallthesongsonherspeaknowalbumandthatwasagreatalbum
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Iwouldn'tsayanyTaylorSwiftalbumqualifiesasagreatalbum.She'sprettyblandandaboutasskilledasKurtCobainwas
atguitar.
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itsalmostasifpeoplehavedifferentopinions
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opinionsarelikeassholes...everyone'sgotone:)
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[] RadioSoulwax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shedidn'tgetwithMaxMartinuntilafewyearsago
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[] SentByFax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,MaxMartiniseverywherebehindthescenes.HewrotenearlyalloftheNsync,Backstreet,andBritneySpearssongsbackin
theday.It'sashamehedidn'tgetmorecreditforthatstuffbecausehebasicallycreatedthatwholeeraofTRLlate90smusic.It
wasbubblegumpopbutthesongswereverywellwritten,withsomecomplexmelodies,andgreathooksandchoruses.Lou
Pearlmanwasacreepydude,buthefoundagreatsongwriterforhisgroups.
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It'sashamehedidn'tgetmorecreditforthatstuff
Isit?Anyonewho's"anyone"knowswhoheis,buthecanstillwalkdownthestreetlikeanormalperson.Ithinkhemustbe
prettyhappywithhisposition.
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duhI'mnotsureofeitheroftheirgaynessbut:
TonyDowofLeaveittoBeaverfamewenton'dates'inthe60swithstarletsthatwereinnowaydates,theywerestagedphotoops
oftennoteveninpublic.OneofthesewaswithSheliaKeuhlofDobieGillisfame.Shewasbutchashellandthedatephotoswereto
softenherimage.
thisisoldschoolshithere.
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http://haylornaylor.tumblr.com/post/37424627721/ananalysisofharrystylesandtaylorswifts?is_related_post=1Ahh,winter2012
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MyfriendwhoworksinthemusicindustrysaiditwasprettywellknownthatHarryStylesisbisexual.Whenhewasgoingoutwith
CarolineFlack,hewasactuallyseeingherhousemate,NickGrimshaw.Workedwellforhimbecausehecouldstillbetheheartthrobfor
histeenagefans(becauseiguesssexualitymatterstothem)andshegotamassiveboostinhercareer.
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Idon'tthinkthisisallthatodd,onlybecauseitsfairlycommoninHollywoodisn'tit?Imeandispitebeingmarriedacoupletimes,there
isalwaysthatrumorthatTomCruzisgay.AndMichaelJacksonandeveryfemalehewaseverlinkedtoseemedcontrived,evenhis
marriages.Soitwouldn'tsurprisemeifTaylorSwiftwasallovertheplace.I'mnotsurehow,inthisdayinage,someonessexuality
reallymattersasfarastheneedforitgoes.Why,withacceptancebeingahugeissue,wouldtheyneedtohidetheirtruesexualityand
pretendtobestraight?Ialsothoughtyourpostwasverywellwritten,too.
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financialinstitutionsthey'recarryingontheirbacks.Anycareermoveawayfromtheheterosexualnarrativewouldresultina
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financialimplicationandultimatelythelossofthefanbasesthatmadethem.ForexampleallofasuddenallofSwift'ssongswould
becomeredundant,becausedespitethefactthatbisexualityisathing,itwouldbeseenas(especiallybythepress):Wellisthata
boyshe'ssingingaboutoractuallyagirl?There'dbeathousandBuzzfeedarticlesdebunkingeverysingleoneofherlyricstotry
andfindsomehiddensexualimplicationthatmightnotevenbethere,andeventuallyforthefanswholovethosesongsbecause
theycanrelate,they'dlosethatconnectionbecausethey'dbelike,"Well,I'mlisteningtothisbecauseIcan'tgetoverhim,butshe's
singingabouther".PlusasImentioned,thebullyingwouldberifefordiehardfansinschools,despitesexualitybeingamoreopen
andencouragedthing.You'dalsofindherconcertswouldsufferincountrieswherehomosexualityorbisexualityisfrownedupon
becausethefanstherewouldn'twanttopaytohavetheimplicationthatthey'regaysuggested.
ItreallydoesspiralandspiralunfortunatelyandIagreewithyouaboutCruz(theentirereasonIthinkheandLauraPreponarein
Scientologyistosmothertheirsexualities)andJacksontheamountofstuffthatsurfacedfromyoungguysafterhisdeathandwas
thensubtly"forgottenabout"wasoverwhelming,butultimatelyhewouldhavefacedthesameprejudice,especiallyintheerathathe
wasmakingmusicwhenitwasn'tsosociallyacceptableasitisnow.
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IhaveheardalotofrumorsconcerningTaylorSwift'ssexuality,andfranklyitdoesn'tswaymeeitherwaybecauseI'mnota
fanatall.Butonarelatednote,asachildmynephewwasahugeMelissaEthridgefan.Whilemynephewwasonlymaybe8
atthetike,whenshecameout,mysisterdisallowedhistolistentoEthridge'smusicanymore.Irememberheraskingmeifit
botheredme,thoIwasquiteyoung,andItriedtoexplaintoherthatjustbecausethesong(I'mtheonlyone)wasnowabout
womenfromthesongwritersperspective,itwasstillapowerfullovesongthatcouldbeusedtorelatetoanyrelationship.It's
sadthatwecan'ttakemusicforwhatitisandpeopleforwhotheyareandleaveitatthat.
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TaylorSwifthasanextremelybroadfanbasebecausesheisliketheleastcontroversialsingeroutthere.Allshedoesissingabout
breakups.Verylittlesexordrugsorrebellionorpoliticsorwhatever.Comingoutasgay/biwouldtarnishthatuncontroversialimage.
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someonessexualityreallymattersasfarastheneedforitgoes.
Ithinkitdependsontheperson.Aguywho'sfanbaseismadeofgirlswhofindhimattractivewillprobablyhesitatetocomeout.It
becomesadecisionoffame/incomeversusbeingopen.
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Therealconspiracyhereishowstraightpeoplearenowbeingpersecuted.
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Noevidenceofanyweighthere,butIthinkthere'sawholePRnetworkworkingtogetherorchestratingallnumberofbusinessdriven
celebrityrelationships.Whenacelebrityisabusiness,arelationshipislikeamerger.It'sparticularlyobviousintheUKwithpeoplelike
Jordan.
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IthinkthatKimandKanyewerearranged.Theyarebothsobig,they'relikethecrazierversionsofJayZandBeyonce.I'mnot
sayingtheydon'tlikeorevenloveeachother,butIjustdon'tthinktheywouldhavemarriedeachotherotherwise.
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OhmanIcoulddoawholeessayonKimandKanye.Thatonewasn't'arranged'assuch,itwasjustorchestratedforavery
verylongtimebytheoneofthemostintelligent,schemingandunderratedwomeninsociety:KrisJenner.Ifyoulookback
throughKanye'salbumsandlyrics,he'swantedKimforsuchalongtime,butKriswantedtomarketherandtheKardashian's
asanentitythatincludedKim'slovelife.
Kanye'salbum:808s&HeartbreakismostlyreferencestoKim.InBadNews,thesongisaboutwaitingforagirl,onlytofind
outshe'sgotsomeoneelse."WhileI'mwaiting/Onadreamthatwillnevercometrue","IplayeditofflikeIalreadyknew","My
faceturnedtostonewhenIheardthenews."Thatwaswrittenaroundthetimesheannouncedher'marriage'toKris
Humphries.Streetlights:"I'mnotthere,life'snotfair",ColdestWinter,"Herloveisathousandmilesaway".Inhiddentrack,
Pinocchio"ThereisnoGucciIcanbuy/ThereisnoLouisVuittontoputon/ThereisnoYSLthattheycouldsell/Togetmy
heartoutofthishell."
Theentirealbumreferencesbeing"trapped"andlockedawayfromagirlhelovesandasIsaid,wasproducedandcirculated
intheKrisHumphriesperiodwhich,handilyenoughlasted72days.Enoughtimetogetamassivewedding,amassivestory,
anothermassivestoryfromthedivorce.Humphriesevencameouttosayafterwardthatthewholethingwasasetup,but,the
Kardashianclanhelpfullypaidhimoffandthenhewentawayveryquicklyandshutup.There'ssuchalotofhistorybetween
KimandKanye,that'sonlyareallyweakexplanationthere,butifyoulookclosely,KrisisdoingthesamethingwithJaden
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SmithandKylieJenner.NotonlywasKylielinkedtoStyles,Smiththenwroteasongwhichincludedthelyrics"Yourmanjust
camethroughinarange/Ihopetheytowitgirljustforthemoment".WhenStylesandKyliewerefirstspotted,hepickedher
upinaRangeRover.There'salsothelyric"it'sunbearablewhenweinthekitchen/causewegottabequietbecauseyour
parentslisten".Atfirstitseemslikeatypicalclandestineteenagerelationship,butifweconsiderKrisandherorchestrating,
it'sasuggestionthatactually,they'rebothhavingtosmothersomething.
I'mgonnastopnow,becausethere'smoretheretoo....
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pleasedocontinue...
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Goon.
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Agreed,Ithinkthishappensallthetime.MyotherhalfwatchesrealityTVoftenandI'mprettysurealotofthatshitisallagiantPR
jobforwhateverangleallthesezlistersarepushing.
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That'snotmuchofaconspiracy.That'sliterallyanagent'sjob.
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Iagreewithyoudefinitely.JordanasinKatiePrice...?
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Ithinkmarryingherismorelikejuryduty.
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IthoughtthattroublewassupposedtobeaboutJakeGyllenhaal?
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IthoughtTroublewasaboutJohnMayer.
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Itis...
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WeAreNeverEverGettingBackTogetherwasaboutGyllenhaal
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nope,Ican'trememberwhichawardsceremonyitwas,justthatitwasbroadcastacrosslikeeverygossipragandmostlyTumblr,
butshemadeadiginheracceptancespeech.Somethingalongthelinesof"I'dliketothankthepersonwhothissongisaboutfor
mysuccess"andthecamerapannedtoasmirkingHarry,sotheimplicationwasquiteexplicitthatitwasmadeabouthim.
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shealsodidaBritishaccentaswelldidn'tshe?Ivaguelyrememberthis
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Iseemtorecallshedid,yes.
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[] chrissietherese undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,IthinkalotoftheirrelationshipsaresetupforPRreasons.IdefinitelythinkthedudefromTwilightwasgay.Idon'tthinkher
relationshipwithCalvinHarrisisodd:he'sasoughtafterDJ/producersohe'dbegoodforhercareer."Wonderland"isaboutJohn
Mayer,though.
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HmmIhavetodisagreewithyouthere:Idon'tthinkshe'dneedanybody"goodforhercareer"whenshe'smadeanawardwinning,
platinumsellingcareeronherown?
InterestingtheoryaboutWonderland,butI'mintriguedastowhyyou'dthinkthat?Iknowsomeofherearlysongswere,butthey
haven'tbeenseenwith/aroundoneanotherforyears?It'dbeinterestingtoseewhyshe'dwriteoneinherlatestalbumabout
somethinglongburiedwhilemakingitsoundconventional...?
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Ireallydon'tbuymost'they'resecretlygay'rumorsanymore.IthasneverbeenmoresociallyacceptabletobegayandIhonestlythink
it'dskyrockettheircareersratherthanhurtitbecausethey'dbe'sobrave'
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Acceptable=/=profitable
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WhenTaylorsaysshelikesbeingarolemodelwhatshemeansisreligiousparentsbuymyrecordsfortheirkids.Comingoutwould
nothelpherrecordsales.
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Notreally.Canyounamethreecelebritieswhosecareersskyrocketedaftercomingout?LookatEllenPage.Shecameoutin2014
andhasn'thadamajorreleasesincethenexceptforXMen:DaysofFuturePast,andthat'sonlybecauseshewasalreadyapartof
thecastbeforeshecameout.
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ThisisaREALLYREALLYoptimisticopinionaboutgayrights.Therearepeopleonherewhostillavidlyandcompletelydefend
organizationsandpeoplewhoareantigayrights.TherearetonsofpoliticiansinAmericawhoopenlycampaignagainstgayrights
too.Youbetterbelievethatplentyofcelebritieswouldbehurtbycomingoutasgay.TaylorSwiftcomingoutasalesbianwould
probablyderailherentirecareer.ThatispartiallybecauseagoodpartofheraudiencefallsintothecategoriesImentionedbefore.
Justbecauseitismoresociallyacceptablenowdoesn'tmeanitisentirelyaccepted.
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Justbecauseit'sneverbeenmoresociallyacceptabledoesn'tmeanthatit'suniformlyaccepted,especiallybythoseloyaltoa
religion.SomeonelikeTomCruisewouldNEVERadmittohimself,letaloneanyoneelse,thathewasgayifitweretrue.
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buthasit?Iexplainedinmyfinalparagraph:Yes,itmaybesociallyacceptabletotheaveragehumannotcarryinganinstitutionon
theirback,butnotinthelimelight.SamSmithforexampledoesn'thaveahugefemalefanbase.NeitherdoesWillYoungaftermany
girlswhofirstwatchedhimonPopIdolfoundouthissexuality.
AsIreasoned,theassertionthatactuallythey'regaywouldturnmanygirlsaway.Teenagegirlscanbejudgementalandcatty.
Althoughatfirstthey'dbe'accepting',eventuallyinschoolsdeeplyinvolvedfanswouldbeaccusedofbeinghomosexual
themselves.Also,herlyricswhichsellherplatinumsongsandprovideherincomewouldnolongerberelatable.Themindset
wouldbe:"Howcansomeonesingaboutbreakingupwithaguybutlikegirls...?"Thesamefor1D.Althoughyes,thereareother
boys,themaindrawis,andhasalwaysbeenHarryStylesbecauseofhow'JamesDean'andeffeminateand'badboy'heis.Once
theylearntthatactually,Harrylikesboys....Well,itwouldn'tquitehavethesameappeal.Thathasbeenobviousforyearsinsome
ofthetwittercommentsaboutthe"LarryStylinson"argumentsomeoftheteenagegirlswhomakethosecommentsareattimes
bitinglycruel.
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TheonlythingI'dargueisthatmany1Dfansarehugeonthemembersbeinggay.Theyoften"ship"memberstogetherand
writehomoeroticfanfiction.Ifoneormorememberscameout,manyfanswouldbeecstaticandmorefanfictionwould
commence.
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thisiswhatiwasthinking.although,ifharryisgayandnoneoftheothermembersare,iguessthegirlswouldgo
crazingshippingthemevenmorewhichiguesswouldbeuncomfortableforthem.
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Thepurposeofhomoeroticfanart/fanfictionistoallowfanstoimaginetheiridolinasexualcontextwithoutintroducinga
"rival"femaleintothemix.Ifhe'swithagirl,he'snotwithyouandthat'sanogo.Ifhe'swithaguy,fromhisown
boyband(andprobablytheotherguyyoulikeinthatband),thenhe'sjustrelivingstressuntiltherightgirl(you)comes
along.
Thedelusionsinthosefandomsrundeep.Therearebasicallythreetypesofpairingyou'llfindinthosefanfictions:
homoerotic,whichIexplainedabove
secondpersonpointofviewofafemalecharacter(basicallyputtingthefaninsidethestory)
FemaleMarySue,wherethemaincharacteristhisperfectbeing(butstill"shy"andinnocentsoshecanbe
sweptaway).Basically,apowerfantasyforthereader.
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Nah,usuallystraightgirlslikehomoeroticfanfiction,yaoi,etcbecausetheygettobeattractedtobothofthe
peopleintherelationship,notjustone.
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Huh.Idon'tagreewiththisatall.MostpeopleIknowwho"ship"twomalecharactersdoitbecausetheywould
WANTthat,andnotbecauseit'sabetteroptionthenbeingwiththemselvesoranothergirl.
Comingfromahellagayladywhohasbeenguiltyof"shipping"twoguystogether,Iobviouslydon'tdoitbecause
I'mpersonallyinterestedinthemorwantthemtobewithme.JustbecauseIthinkthembeingwiththeother
personisadorableorsomething.Notasawayforhimto"releasestress"samewithheterosexual/lesbian
fanfictions.
Butthat'sjustme!Idon'tthinki'vepersonallymetsomeone(inperosnoronline)whoshippedtwoguysasaway
forthemtoreleasestressoneachotherwhilewaitingfortheirfemalewritein.
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Iwasmainlyreferringtothetargetdemographicofboybands,thetweengirls.Obviously,theydon'tsitdown
andthink,"Idon'twanthimtobewithagirl,I'llpairhimwithaguyinstead."Nothinginmyfirstpostisdone
consciously,withdeliberation.
Also,whenIsaid"releasestress",Iwasn'tbeingliteral.Ibasicallymeantputtingtheminsexualsituations
whileleavingan"out"forthegirl'spersonalfantasies.Thenagain,myexperienceismostlyintheKpop
universe,wherethehomoeroticfanserviceisnotonlysanctioned,butencouraged.Andbelieveme,there
areplentyofyounggirlsinkpopwhothink"relivingstress"withanothermemberiscompletelyplausible.
I'llreiterate:we'retalkingaboutyounggirls12to14yearsold,they'renotbeingrationalaboutanyofthis.
Thesearethegirlsyouseeonyoutubecryingandfaintingduringconcerts,whospendhoursontheinternet
writingaboutthem,browsingtumblrforpicturesofthem,etc.
Onceyoustartlookingattheoldercrowd,themotivationschange.There'splentyofgayguysshippingidols
andlookingaroundforsmuttoreadjustbecausetheyfindthemhotforexample.Themaindemographic,
though,aregirlswhodreamtheymarryHarryatnight,whilewritingabouthimgettingfriskywithLouis
duringtheday.
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HarryandLouisaresoobviouslysecretlovers.
AndI'mnotevena1Dfan.Iwasjustanannyseveralyearsagotoa1Dfan,soIreaduponthemsowecoulddiscuss
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Wasn'toneofthebackstreetboysornsyncgay?Idon'tthinkitaffectedtheirpopularity.
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I'mprettysureLanceBassdidn'tcomeoutuntilafterN'SYNCbrokeup.
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Idon'tthinkhewasoutuntillongaftertheybrokeup
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SamSmithhasplentyoffemalefans,heisjustmarketedwaydifferentlythan1Dsohisfansarenotasfervent.
NeonJunglehasneverbeenonthecuspoftruepopularity,theyplayedtheVSfashionshoworwhateverandthatwas
basicallytheirbiggestthing.ItmakessensethattheydissolvedandIdon'tbelieveatallthatitwasbecauseamembersaid
theywerebisexual.
DoyoureallythinkthatLittleMixisonthatpath?Idon't.Theyseemsolidandtheyarewaymorepopular.Andhasany
memberevenadmittedbisexuality?
OfcourseI'msuresomeofthepeoplewhodisliketheconceptof"Larry"arehomophobicaboutit,butIthinkthemajorityare
justsickofhowithasbeendraggedout,attheridiculoustinhatnatureofthosewhoinsistit'strue,thepeoplewhowon'tstop
shovingitinthebandmembersfacesinveryrudeways,thefactthatit'saffectedthedynamicsofhow1Dpresentthemselves
inpublic(i.e.thetwobasicallydon'tinteractatallinpubliceventhoughI'msuretheydoinprivateasit'snecessaryfortheir
jobsattheveryleast)
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OneofLittleMix'ssongshasraisedquestionsrecentlyIthinkit'sSecretLoveSongPtIIorsomething?Basicallyon
Twitteroneoftheirfanssuggestedthatitsoundedlikeahomosexualityanthem,andoneofthesingerssubtlyagreed
thatactually,thatwastheentirebasisofthesong.There'sbeenrumours(althoughIcan'trememberthename)about
oneoftheirmembersforalongtime,maybeLeighAnne?AndafterthiswholeMalikbreakup,PerrieEdwardsis
repeatedlytalkingaboutwomen.Modestmanagethem,thesamepeopleas1D,soifthey'resmotheringonesexuality,
they'llhavetosmotheralotmoreandeventuallytheymightnotbebothered.Theyhardlyhavethebiggestplatformof
fans,sotheycouldquiteeasilybecutoff.
Smithismarketeddifferently,yes,butIrememberafewofmyfriendsdroolingoverhimwhenhefirsthitthesceneand
thensuddenlystoppingwhenheannouncedhissexuality.FrankOceanmightbeagoodexampletoo,butagain,he's
moreofanR&Bplatform,whichisawholedifferentlandinitself.
Idon'treallyfollowthewhole"Larry"thing,itwasjustagoodexample.Ithinkwhenyouhaveafanbaseofmillionsof
teenagegirls,withimaginationsandfantasieswhoarestillexploringtheirownsexualitiesyou'realwaysgoingtoface
conflictbetween"wellthisismyview""butthisismyview"andultimatelyitsomewaysit'sprovidingagreatsupport
basisforgirlswhofollow1Dandaregay,butatthesametime,it'salsoshowingthemthatnoteveryonewillbeas
supportiveastheymaywish,withoutsoundingreallyharsh.
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AgreewiththeLarrything.I'mnothomophobicaboutit,Ijustdon'tthinkitwasreal.IfLouisandHarryconfirmeditwell
fuckmeIwouldbewritingfics.ButthedesperationofLarriesandhowaggressivetheycanbeanddefinitelytinfoilhate
isembarrassingandborderlineabusive.
AlsowhywouldLiamandZayndenyit?Iamgoingtobelievemembersoftheband,theirfamily,andLouissayingheis
straightratherthanderangedfanswhoarelike"ONTHE29THAT4AMLOUISTWEETED.....THENEXTDAYHARRY
SAIDHEWASTIRED...WERETHEYUPALLNIGHTFUCKINGEACHOTHERINTHEASS?"
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I'mnotsurehowtofeelaboutthewayyoukeepreferringto1D/Taylormemes/eventsasthoughthey'recommonknowledge
thingsweallobviouslyknowabout.Old,probably.
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TheTaylor/1Dconspiracystuffishugelypopular/propagatedonTumblrbyinsaneobsessivefansandshouldprobably
staytherebecauseit'sembarrassingasfuck.
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Outofthisentirething,TaylorSwiftistheonlynameIrecognize.Old,definitely.
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Don'tworry,I'meighteenandhavenoideawhathe'stalkingabout.
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YoushouldspendmoretimeonTumblrwhereteenagegirlswanteveryonetobequeer.They'deatthatshitup.
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andyousoundasignorantasthegirlsonTwitterrefutinganybodythatidentifiesasdifferent
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I'mnotsurewhereyou'regettingthat?Imeantthatifyouthinkteenagegirlswouldlike1Dlessiftheyhaveagay
member,youshouldseehowpopularqueerartistsarewiththeteenageTumblrcommunity.Iwasslightly
disagreeingwithyou,notdiggingonyouorcallingyoua~dirtySJW~orwhateverReddit'sbeefwithTumblris.I
misspoke,didn'trealizethatwarrantednamecalling.
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looksatusername
soyouarethegirlTSwiftiswith.
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Ittookme2readthroughsbeforeIdiscoveredthis./u/stayinginrabbitholeisagenius.
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Iloveyou.
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ThatwasreallyTaylorwhowrotethat.Shejustwantedtogetitoffherchest.
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HahahnoIpromisenoconspiracyhereIjustdidn'twanttopostfrommyrealaccountforfearofbacklash...hides
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fear
don'tbeafuckingpussy
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Thatwould'vebeentheproperbacklash.
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Surelyyoudon'tbelieve"Larry"isrealthough?UghthatannoysmeastheLouishasstatedheisstraightandZaynandLiam
deniesitbutpeoplestillharassthem
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Heck,Imayaswellgoallout!Truthfully,I'munsure.Idefinitelythinktherewasariftbetweenthemaswasreportedby
TheSun(whoaren'treliable,Iknow)butwhatit'saboutIdon'tknow.Theywerecertainlyveryclose,fartoocloseimo
whenyoulookatsomeofthevidsandGIFSetc...ImeaninoneLouisleansoverasofatolickdownthesideofHarry's
face.Iftheirbehaviourwasbetweenaguyandagirltherumourswouldberife.Sosomeinstanceslikethatwerealittle
odd...Thentheymovedintogether,thenmovedoutanddidseemforalongtimeawkwardonstage.It'sonlyrecently
thatthey'relaughingwith/sittingnexttoeachotherininterviewsagain,andthecynicalsideofmethinksthatthat'sto
coverupwhateverthis"rift"wasbecauseobviouslyitwaspublicisedalloverthemainstreampressandthelastthing1D
managementwouldwantisanotherrumourofsomeoneleaving.
Louis'babygatescandalisoddtoo.Allofasuddenheknockssomerandomgirlup,butthey're"bestfriends"andare
gonnaraiseakidtogether?Mostmanagementsdespiseastorylikethatcomingoutbecauseitmakestheclientlook
bad,but1DHQateitupandnowanyquestionsaboutitarebannedfromanyinterviews,despiteLouis"buzzing"tobea
father?
Allofthisdoesn'tconstitutetoarelationship,obviously,butIdothinkit'soneIcan'tbecertainofeitherway.Plusas
someoneelsesaid,thematchingtattoosthing....Wouldyougetasetofmorethan8matchingtattooswithyour
platonicalbandmatewhentherearerumoursyou'reinasecretrelationshiptogetherswirlingaround?Wouldyouget
themwithyourbestfriend...?sure,maybeoneortwo,butIknowthat8+wouldbealittleextremeforme.
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AlsosorryifmymessagesseemaggressiveIswearthey'renotandnothingisaimedatyou!JustIseesomuch
fuckinLarryshitonTwitteritblowsmymind.Harrytweets"Neverforget"about9/11,alltherepliesare
"LARRYYY""larry""neverforgetaboutLarry"etc.
ButthenLarrieshavetheaudacitytoturnaroundandsay"wedon'tmakeeverythingaboutLarry"likehowLiam
saidtheydid.
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noIcompletelyseeyourPOVandagreewithyou!Alldiscussionisgooddiscussionandagain,you'reright,
wecan'tspeculateonsomethingweonlyseeintothewindowof.Thereareodditiesandmomentsthat
standout,butthatdoesn'tmeanthattheyreflectwhat'sreallygoingon,forsure.Itcouldbethattheywere
atthestagewheretheywereexploringtheirsexualities(asallteenagersdo),especiallygoingfrombeing
normalboystobeingsurroundedbygirls.FromthatexchangeperhapsLouisrealisedhewasheterosexual
andperhapsHarryrealisedtheopposite.Wejustdon'tknow!
Iagreethough,sometimesIthinkeveryoneshouldberespectfulandmindfulofopposingopinions.It'snot
rightfortheshipperstoforceitdownpeoplesthroats,butatthesametime,it'snotrightforthenon
believerstodismisseverythingandlaunchverbaltiradesagainstthem.
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YepIagreecompletely.
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YeahseeallthatstuffIget,butitstilldoesn'tpointanywheretoarelationshiptome.Likeguyslickingeachother's
faces...Guysdoweirdshitallthetimelikejackoffinthesameroomtoporndoesn'tmeanthey'regay.
Idon'tknowIcan'tspeculateonthingsweseeoutwardly.LikewhatweseeisFRACTIONoftheirlife.Therecould
besomuchthatgoesonbehindthescenessuchaslike"heyHarrywanttogetmatchingtattoostofuckingwith
thefans?"Orheymaybetheylegitdohavesomethinggoingon.
Yeahthe"babygate"thingwasweird.HoweverIstilldon'tfeeltheyredating.Atthisstage,I'mprettysuremostof
thefanbasewouldWANTthemtobegay.Alltheshippingandfics,wow.Harryissoprogayrightswhywould
hehideit?Ifeellikehewouldbeafantasticrolemodelandheknowshecouldhelppeopletowhywouldn'the?
SomanyQ's&A'sandfranklywemayneverknowthetruth.Ijustdon'tlikehowaggressiveLarriesget.They
can'tacceptanyfactoropinionotherthantheirown.It'sstupidandharassmentfortheboys.Especiallywhen
Liamstateditannoysthem,thefansallturnonLiam."WHATWOULDLIAMKNOW?"Hahayeahwhahwouldhe
know,it'snotlikehehasintimateknowledgeofitall:')You,a15yearoldfangirl,aremoreknowledgeablethan
thebandandtheirfamilies.:')
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[] halerzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfriendisaLarrybeliever.It'ssoannoying.Basicallyheronlyargumentis"theylookateachotheralotininterviews
andin'ifIcouldfly'theysingalotofittogether"
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Or"theygotmatchingtattoos".Yesbecausetwomatescan'tgetmatchingtattoos?
ThenLarriesneedstobesoextremelike"wellifthey'renotdating,theymusthateeachother!Andohlook,Harry
smiledatLouis,sotheydon'thateeachother.Therefore,theyaredating."
NottomentionLarryfansalwayscallnonbelieversor"antis"uglier.Andthinkthey'reso"sassy"and"salty".Ugh
shutthefuckup.
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Getalife!!Whataloser,posingpossibleconspiraciesinathreadexplicitlyaskingforthem!Furthermoreit'sauniqueandwell
writtenexplanation,youhavesomegall!
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HahaIknow,mywhole"theory"justfeltalittleweakandwistfulcomparedtotheamountofhugegovernmental/society
onesinthethreadsoIwasprettysuresomeonewasgonnabelike....Rusure?Butthankyou!Itry!
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[] c190 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Boooo!Getalife!
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[] BadFont777 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude,I'llpostwhateverdumbdribblethatpopsintomymind,thefuckisaRedditbacklash?Somedownvotesfroman
unpopularopinion.Idon'tdoanythingmanipulativeofthesystem,whichbasicallytheonlythingthatruinsaccounts.EvenifI
did,Iwouldjustmainanotheraccount.
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[] BilllisCool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getalife.
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Canconfirm.
Source:I'mnotTaylorSwift.
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[] HydroTherapy1952 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Taylorjusttoldmetttellyouto"getalife".
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Iloveredditsomuch.
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[] frellingaround undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notatall,thatwasveryinteresting.Ienjoyreadingthisnextlevelcelebritygossiptypestuff.It'sfuntospeculateabout.I
wonderaboutwhatthefuturemightholdforthosetwo.
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[] Diabrotes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pleasedontgetalifeandkeepinvestigatingthis.Idontlistentohermusicorcareabouycelebritiesatallbutdestroyingthe
hopeofteenagegirlsisrightupmyalley....alsothatsoundsdisturbingbutitstheinternetsoimnormal
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[] ADHR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msurethereareatonofteenagegirlswhowouldLOVEforthistobetrue:P
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[] MollyRocket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisreddit.Ifwehadliveswesurewouldn'tbehereonaSaturdaynight.
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TobefairI'matworkandfuckallisgoingon.I'mbouncingbetweenRedditandwatchingthewholeExtraCreditsseries
onYoutube.
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[] Meriog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Psh,speakforyourself.PeoplestillneedtopooponSaturdaynights.
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[] frinqe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
getalife.
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[] sjalllday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OrapossiblelawsuitbyTaylorSwift....asweknowshe'salltoofondof
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[] KWEb09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yo,getalife.
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[] hoyeay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmadeanaltacc.
GAL!!
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Mmhmm...Telluswhatshe'slikeirl.
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[] Lockski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GETALIFE!!
...withtswiftyouseemlikeyoureallylikeher.
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THISWOULDBEGRAND
...becauseI'dneverhavetoworkagain.
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[] Lockski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LETMESAYIKNOWFORSURE
...therewoulddefinitelybeaprenup
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ALLOFYOURLIFEEARNINGSTOME
.......andnothingofminetoyou.LoveyousomuchxoForeverxoandAlwaysxo...xo..........xo
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[] Ghostbom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whowouldtellyoutogetalife?You'reenthusiasticaboutsomethingandputofworkin.Seemsprettylivelytome!
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[] TTTaToo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getalifeman.
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[] ColorMeLoud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
orgettingsuedbyTSwiftnoIgetit)
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[] MYPR1US undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1989TiananmenSquareMassacre
sees1989
Lolcuincourt~TSwift
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andthat!Iheardthatweddingthing...NothankyouIdon'thavethatmuchtogiveherinthefirstplace!
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[] jax7246 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whatweddingthing?
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Acoupleusedacombinationofhersongsfortheirweddingvideo/firstdanceandposteditonYouTubeas
theyhadfamilyacrosstheothersideoftheworldwhocouldn'tmaketheevent.Taylorandhermanagement
removeditandrevokedalltherights,sothatthecouplecannolongeraccessthevideotheypaidfor(itwas
doneprofessionally).AsfarasI'mawareherrepresentativesareyettocommentandherfamilyarestill
waitingtoseethevid.
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Theredone.
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[] Juicysteak117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustwhenIforgetaboutit...
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Andthere'sstillanunpaidbridgebill.
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[] lukc1987 9points
Notaconspiracybutamindblownfact.ThefallofBerlinwalliscloserto9/11thanwearein2015.
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[] beccaonice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoesthatfitthisthreadatall?
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[] MrPoptartMan 2points
Aliensandshit
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[] Dino_Guy 5077points
Starbucksspellspeople'snameswrongonpurposesotheyshareitonsocialmediathuscreatingfreeadvertising.
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[] SinisterChinchilla undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icontestthatagreatamountofnamemisspellingsisduetotheexcessivenoiseinthestore.Icanonlysay"what??"somanytimes
untilIgiveupontryingtofigureoutyourname.
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[] Symotix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Andtheyspellitcorrectlyforpeoplewithunusualnames,sothosepeoplewillshareittoobecausenormallynoonespelltheirname
right
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Thiswouldbelargestsecreteverkeptby200,000parttimeworkersmaking$10anhour.
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[] Tratix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisonegetsbroughtupeverytimeanddoesn'tmakeanysense.Thepeoplethatwriteyournamearen'trobotsprogrammedbythe
company.They'reteenagers,adults,realpeoplethatwouldtelltheirfriendsifstarbuckstoldthemtopurposelyspellnameswrong.
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[] Supersnazz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Starbucksdon'tdothat,thepeopleworkingtheredo.Todothistheywouldhavetotelltheiremployeestodoit,andthoseemployees
wouldbeonRedditandsay'Mybosstoldmetospellnameswrongforpublicitypurposes'
Ortheycouldhirefuckheadsthatcan'tspellandhopetheirplanjustworksout.
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[] Eldis_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyevenspellitwrongifyouspellitoutforthem.
"MynameisEldis.ELDIS"writesdownELJAN
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[] BrQQQ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswouldmeanthe"lowly"Starbucksbaristaswouldbetoldaboutaprettybigsecret.
Ifthathappened,itwouldhaveleakedandconfirmedagesago.
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[] joe_the_bartender undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkanyoneatstarbuckshasEVERspelledmynamewrong.
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[] Mustard_Icecream undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'syourgrandefrappuccinoMr.dildoguy.
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MyfriendEthangotadrinkwith"Heathen"writtenonit.
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Thename'sMerry.MerryChristmas.
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[] ___Iowa___ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orpeoplejusthaveweirdnamesandweirdspellingslike"Erica"beingErykahor"Michelle"beingmichaele.PersonallyIdon'tgetwhy
peoplegiveafuckiftheirnameisspelledwrong.
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[] Schnelldeutscher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,it'sspelled"phteven",thankyou
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[] Kalkaline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pheven?
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[] Shadax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stephenwitha"ph"
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Nope.WespellitwrongbecauseyourefusetospeakloudlyenoughforustohearyouandI'mnotaskingyoutorepeatyourselfa
fourthtime.
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[] TheBryanBomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Deeno_Gui
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[] Crustal_Math undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveit.Ineverpostedfood/drinksonsocialmediauntiltheyspelledmynamelikeit'smadeupnounhomonyn.
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[] rocier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youthinkthousandsofpeoplemaking8bucksanhouraregonnagonnabetightlippedonthis?
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[] RoboHood1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exbaristahere.Tobehonestwedon'tcareaboutspellingwhenwegetintoautomaticmode.
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[] TeddyBridgewater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theycouldjustpostitthemselves
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It'snottrue,it'sbecausewecan'talwayshearwhatyousaidandwedon'talwayshavetimetoaskagainoraskyoutospellit.
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[] gdmfr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Deeper:thisguy^worksforstarfucksanddidhisjobbygettingtheirnameinyourhead.Duncin,maxhellsouse,folders,duckit,etc.
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[] Gheston undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wespellyournamewrongbecausewedon'tgiveafuck.
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[] Koyaanisquatsi_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohhereisyourcoffeetsang
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[] getinkittenmittens undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nope.I'mhorriblyembarrassedwhenmybaristascan'tspell.They'rejustdumb.
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[] g0odnight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheotherdayIhadagirlatstarbuxspellmyname"Charleigh"andherfirstreactionwastosnapchatit.
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[] Harborcoat84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwouldbeprettyhardtokeepquietno?Sincebaristasareregularpeopleandwouldbelike"heyguystheytoldustospellnames
wrongonpurpose".
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[] Good_Will_4NIK8R undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amorpha
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[] pixelflop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicetrydyno_guy
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Thatgoesdowntoemployeelevel,andifit'semployeelevelyouwouldhaveheardaboutamillion+1timesbynow
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[] SaltLyfe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FriendworkedforStarbucks.Canconfirm.
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[] walrus_rave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WorkedforStarbucks.Thisisnottrue.
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[] LittleSawyer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orfornewlyengagedwomenorwhenthebridalpartgoestheretogether.Theywrite"fianc"or"maidofhonor"orsomethingalong
thoselinesforthefreeadvertising.
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[] Balmarog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworkedataStarbucksforayearandnooneeverdirectedmetodothis,interestingonethough.
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[] TheFoxSays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'reArtmajorsnotEnglishmajors.That'sDunkinDonuts!
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[] roh8880 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Phteven
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[] KingCoochie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Markwitha'C'"
Cark
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[] Neoduckium undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'simplyingminimumwagecashierscareaboutthesuccessofthecompany
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[] stonespiral undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AmStarbucksBarista,IactivelyallfolkshowtheirnameisspelledbecauseIdon'twantmyshittyhandwritingshowinguponsocial
media.
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[] Polymarchos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aconspiracyinvolvingthatmanylowlypaidpeoplewouldneverlastlong.
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[] jasminehulse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Starbucksworkerhere:Itsmostlycausepeopledon'ttalkloudenoughorweareinahurry.ButsometimesIwilltryandwritetheir
nameprettyinhopestheywillInstagramit!
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[] rendeld undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SeeIcan'tbelieveanyconspiracytheorythatreliesongroundlevellowwageworkerstokeepsecretsanddosomethingconsistently.
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[] HumanSpecimen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustlikeCokewithvariousnamesonthebottles.Picsofbottleswerealloversocialmedia..thatwasasimpleandgreatcampaign.
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[] Jazz_Musician undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mlegitimatelyconvincedyou'reright.GotStarbuckswithagirlfriendearlierandsheputhername(Bonnie)forourdrinks.Itcameout
MontiandMandy.
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[] CapitanCrotch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Swarlos!
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[] SirisAusar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,nah.There'safewreasons
Yournamecouldbespelledindifferentways"Sarah"/"Sara"
You'remumbling
Themilksteamerwasgoingonwhenyouwerespeakingandwedidn'twanttomakeathingofit
Thebeangrinderwasgoingon^^^
YOU'REGODDAMNMUMBLING
Youhaveabitofanaccent/anoholdsbarredaccent
Weknowyouandwannascrewwithyoubecausebuddiesdothat
Reallywedowanttogetyournameright90%ofthetime.
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[] Chivalrousredditor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
myfriendsnameisbusterandhedoesntgotostarbucksanymorebecausetheyalwayswrite"mustard"
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[] xathemisx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistrue.
Source:SILisaregionalmanagerforStarbucks.
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[] JustAsLost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeelitslikelythatthe"redcupcontroversy"wasstartedBYStarbucks.
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[] Edmund_Dantespart2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusetoworktherefor3years...theytoldustospellthenamestothebestofourabilityandusecommonsnese.Starbucksgotfree
advertisingbecase1theyhavegreatcoffeeand2someguypostedavideoaboutitayetaragoasajoke...itcaughton
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[] sixfingerdiscount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uhhhhhhh.....Amorpha?
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[] Has_Xray_Glasses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Myname'sDavid"
Davvad
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[] tjcoolkid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amabarista.Honestlywedon'tgiveabigenoughshittowriteitcorrectly.Especiallywhenit'sbusy.
Doesitsoundlikethename?Goodenough.
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[] TallonCote undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Formeit'snotbecausewearemessingwithyou...It'sbecauseweeithercan'thearyouoryourhaveareallyfuckingweirdname.
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[] KBewts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CustomerstellStarbucksemployeestheirnameswrongsotheycanputitonsocialmedia.
Source:Iworkatthebux.
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[] pjcarav undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkatstarbucks...Writingthenamecorrectlyisabigdealtothem,butthereisn'treallyanyonetoenforceit.Thebaristasspell
nameswrongusuallybecausetheyarebusy/distractedorhavenothingelsebettertodo.
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[] rowingfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostlylikelyhumanerrorthanaconspiracy.
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Iworkedatacoffeeshop,it'slouderbehindthecounterthanyouthink.Youhaveanespressomachinerunning,agrindergrinding,a
dripdrippingthatautomaticallyheatsthewater,andprobablyablender,andicemachine,andabunchofotherBS.
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Occam'sRazor.
Starbucksisnoisyandthepeoplethatworktheredon'tspellwellanddon'tcareeitherway.
Ifthatinstructionexistedandwasdeliveredtoeverystarbucksemployee,doyoureallythinkitcouldhavebeenkeptsecret?
I'msureyoucouldgoogleforStarbucksEmployeehandbook.
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[] Artrobull undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
toomanypointsoffailure.itwouldleakinstantlytomedia
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Couldn'ttheyjustbehiringidiotstoworkbehindthecounter?
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[] JudoBlue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistheonlyreasonthey'dmakesomanystupidmistakes.NowpeoplegotoStarbuckstoseeiftheymessitup.It'sgenius.Itold
mybandmatesthisandtheycouldn'tbelievehowdumbtheyhadbeen
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[] plasticmind undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Similartheory:peoplemisspellwordsintitestheypostonRedditsotheygetmoreattention.
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[] StopWeirdJokes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mabaristaonacollegecampus,andifIspellyournamewrongit'sbecauseeither
a.)Ididn'thearyouanddon'twanttoaskagain(becausepeopleliterallygetoffeneded)b.)Iamscrewingwithyouc.)Ihave1"stock"
spellingofanynameIheard.)IwastoldtospellnameswrongbyaStarbucksPRteam
oh...nvm
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[] Fababo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhgoddamnitIfellforthis!
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[] DRAWKWARD79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asanexpartnericanconfirmthis.
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[] itsMetatron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pheven
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[] Duff_Beer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatever/r/dino_gay
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[] GrizTod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haha!MynameisTod,butthismoronspelledit"Todd"!Whatadoofus!
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[] Ryanguy7890 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestly,ifIworkedatStarbucksI'ddoitpurposelyforfuntoseehowbadlyIcouldbutchernames.
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[] ZurekMorraff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"OneMilkWithSugarBreveLatteachinoforDynohGai!"
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[] just_hating undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitistotellallthemikesapart.
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[] Harlinson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GottaVenteLatteforaDino_Gay!
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[] xwertable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Regardlessofthereasonsithappensnow,IthinkStarbucksshouldjuststartdoingitonpurpose.Itcouldbetheir"thing".
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[] Justkevin87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldabarristacareaboutbusiness?
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[] Bilbos_Burrito undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohheyit'su/dino_gay
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[] Aerodax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneisabsolutetrue.EachtimemyfriendKatgoestoanewStarbuckstheymisspellhernametoFat.
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[] sir_stegosaurous_rex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworkatStarbucksandIthinkmostofthebaristasIworkwithspellpeoples'nameswrongbecausetheydon'treallycare.Onegirl
wrote"Wanita"onacuptheotherday.That'ssomeseriousidgafattitude
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[] The_Oneders undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IusedtoworkataStarbucksinKoreatowninLA.Reallynicecustomers,butoftenverydifficulttounderstand(manyofthemwere
actuallyfromSouthKoreaandvisiting).
Earlyon,beforeIknewhowtospellseveralKoreannames,itwasreallydifficult.Thelinewouldbegoingoutthedoorandafterthe
thirdtimeaskingtheirname,IjustgaveupandwrotephoneticallywhatIheard.Honestly,Iusuallyamaverygoodspeller/listenerbut
atthatpoint,endingtheconversationandmovingthelinealongwaswaymoreimportantthanspellingtheirnameright.
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[] dojakitty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WOW.Thisisactuallysotrue.Andageniusmarketingstrategy.
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[] bittor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveatalllatteforDieNoguy!
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[] xxkoloblicinxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likehowtheyfabricatedtheuproarabouttheircupschanging.
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[] DudeWithAHighKD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WelitterallyjustneedonepersonatStarbuckstoconfirmthisisintheirtrainingwithsomekindofdefinitiveproof.
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wellpeopleworkiongatstarbuckswouldtellsoit'sprobablynot.
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[] ncocca undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiswouldeasilybedebunkedbyanyStarbucksemployee...it'sahugecompany,there'sgottobetonsonReddit
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[] micmea1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahwhateverdigogirl.
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[] totally_jawsome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Workedthere.Misspellednamesalot.Wasn'tonpurpose.Justdidn'tcare.Peopledon'tspeakupandIaren'tpayingattention(either
onthephoneorsomethingelse)soIwouldn'tknowwhattheysaidsoImademybestguess.
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[] Hellandyou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowejustdon'thavetimetoaskifyouspellyournameChrisorKris.
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[] mifan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welldamn.WhenmyfriendJespergothiscupitsaid'Yes,Bob'.
Ishareditoneverysocialmediathereis.I'malemming.
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[] lol_lol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Phteven?
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[] lostineurope8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettysuretheyweremisspellingnamesbeforesocialmediawassuchabighitthough.
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[] Antoids undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisprettyunlikely,giventhatpeoplewhowritethenamesarenotcorporateshills,they'rejustkidstryingtoearnapaycheck.
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Thisiswordforwordthetopresponsefromthelasttimewehadabigconspiracytheorythread,right?Anyway,I'llsaynowwhatIsaid
then:it'sacombinationofapathyandpassiveaggressivenessmorethananythingplanned.
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[] thrashglam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ikeepsayingthistopeopleandnobodybelievesme.Itistheeasiestfreeadvertising.I'mconvincedthey'retrainedtodosojustso
theircupsenduponInstagramandFB
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[] Orgrath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mabaristaforStarbucks,andyou'dbesurprisedtohearthatittypicallygoestheotherway.IfIhadanickelforeverytimeI'vehad
someonespelltheirnamewrongonpurposeandthentakeapictureofthecupwhenIhandittothem,IcouldquitStarbucksandretire.
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[] Deanlechanger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswouldrequirethemtellingthecashierstodothis.Inwhichcaseeveryonewouldknowaboutit.Sothisisdefinitelynottrue.Can't
believehowupvotedthisis.
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[] Superedbaron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Starbuckscoffeemakesyouadouchebagandimmobilizesyourbodyfor7hours,soyoucan'tleavethestoreandarestuckontheir
couchwithyourlaptopopen,soyoucanbuymorecoffeeandgivetheimpressionthatpeopleactuallylikeandgotostarbucksto
passerbyslookingin.
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[] CPTNBob46 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idobelievethis,I'vesaiditinthepast.Theyatleastspellthemwrongtoletpeoplehavealaughaboutthensomehowscrewingupthe
spellingof"Bob".
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[] generalgeorge95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DoesStarbucksreallyneedtoadvertise?
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[] martinmass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dino_gay
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[] calum326 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaystellpeoplethis.Mostpeopleknowhowtospell'Charlie'...theyjustthrewthoseaccentsintheretocuteitthef*up.
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[] lupinkat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Naa,Ijustspellpeople'snamewrongiftheyareannoyingandtellmesomethinglike'KathywithaK'
SotheyeithergetCathyorKathi.
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[] SheetShitter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nooo,ijustthinktheemployeeshavefunfuckingitupsometimes
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[] SCAND1UM undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysuretheemployeesdon'treallycareaboutadvertisingforthecompany.
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[] SwissPies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wejustdontcareanddontwanttospendmorethan0.002secondsthinkingabouthowtospellyournamesowejustthrowonafew
letterswethinkweheardthenpassthecupdown
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[] sentientmeatpopsicle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Coffeefordingy.guy...
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[] akpak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisassumestheaveragebaristagivesashitaboutthehealthoftheStarbucksbrand.
Farmorelikelytheydoitforlulzinasoulcrushingjob.IknowIwould.
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[] boxidea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myfriendoncesaidhisnamewas"Stephenwithaph"
Whatdidtheywriteonthecup?
Phteven.
HowdidIfindout?
Facebook.
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[] Jerlko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Orit'sbecauseboredbaristasdon'tcareifyour"steven"needsa"ph"whenthey'rejustgonnacallyournameonce.
Theyprobablywrite"phteven"or"steveph"andjustchuckletothemselves.
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[] Synricc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myhandwritingjustsucks.WhenIworkedatStarbucksandyoupickedupthecupandthoughtImisspelledyournameIprobably
spelleditrightbutyoucouldn'treadit.
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[] My_Private_Life undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwentinwithmyDunkinDonutsmanagernametagonandaskedthemtowrite"Traitor"onthecupforoneofmyshiftleaders.They
wrote"Trader."IthoughttheywereallsupposedtobeEnglishmajorsorsomething?
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[] easymak1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitisactuallybecausepeopledon'tknowhowtotalkproperlyandjustmumble.
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[] BarfReali undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RememberwhentheydrewslantedeyesonAsianpeople'scups?
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[] PriestlyAxis77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ok,/u/Dino_Gay
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[] rugtugba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nahitsjustprettydamnloudinthere,peoplegiveusrandomvariantsofcommonnames,andsometimesyouguysjustmumble.
Source:UsedtobeaBarista
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[] Llama_Worshiper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iftheydon'tthentheyshould
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[] ButtSexington3rd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatwouldimplythattheaveragebaristacaresaboutStarbucksmakingmoremoney.Theydon't.DoestheaverageMcDonald's
workercareiftheirstoreissuccessful?
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[] 4LostSoulsinaBowl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicetry,Phteven.
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[] shiitakefuckrooms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Addition:thewholeholidaycupthingwasamassiveprwinforthem,alsopositioningthemasbeingimportanttopeoplesdailylives,
enoughtobeangryatholidaycupdesign
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[] jabes52 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dgoastepfurtherandsaythatStarbucksitselfstartedthecontroversy.Peoplegetreallyvocalwhentheysuddenlyhavethe
opportunitytotakethemoralhighgroundandsocialmediadiditsthingfromthere.Ihonestlynevermetasinglepersonwhowas
actuallyoffendedbythecups.
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[] shiitakefuckrooms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
imightagreewithyou.thoughitwaspossiblyaminisculesegmentifanythingbutitcreatedhugeimpactforstarbuckson
socialmedia.Ithinktheywerealsopotentiallytheauthorsof"whitegirlslovepumpkinspice"
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Yousureit'snotbecauseoftheliberalartsdegree?
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[] shitking12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotevenaConspiracytheory.It'sfact.
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[] MattDaCatt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hi,Starfuckspartnerhere.Imisspellyournamebecauseofafewreasons.
1)Youmumbleyournametwiceandiwritedownwhatitsoundedlike
2)Youwerebeinganassholeandidontreallycareaboutgettingyournameright
3)YournamehasmultiplepopularvariationsandIdontcareenoughtoaskyoutospellitout.
90%ofthetimeillgetitright,butmymainconcernisthatiringyouupandhaveyourdrinkout(correctly)quickly,alongwiththenext
15peopleinline.Thereasonineedanameisjustsoyoucangrabyourdrinkwhenitcomesout,andnoonestealsit.
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I'veheardGabesbeingcalledGay.Makesmyday,thankyouStarfucks
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[] MidwestRed16 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orwhenit'sinthemiddleofarush,theovenisbeeping,yourcoworkersarealltalking,andyoucan'thearanythingsoyoujustwing
it._()_/
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Youdroppedyour\
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thatwouldmakesenseifthepeoplewritingthenameshadanyincentivetodoanythingbeyondthebareminimumofworktonotget
firedandearntheir$8/hr.
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[] carbthefuckup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Phteven
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[] npepin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,they'dhavetotellemployeestomessuppeople'snames,andnoemployeewoundkeepthatasecret.
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[] cathasyourtongue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whateveryousayu/Dina_Gay
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[] definitelylegitlol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaveyoueverseenacommercialforStarbucks?Exactly.
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[] TheUnimportant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihave!Isawitandwaslike,sotheydoexist...
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[] pacotaco724 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LikeMarcwithaC
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[] greedcrow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneisnottrue.Mostofthepeopletherearehighschoolorcollegeagekidswhojustdontcareenoughttowriteitproperly.
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[] farfle10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,seriously.Dopeopleonredditreallybelievethatthereisanactualpolicyfromcorporatethatexplicitlytellstheirbaristasto
misspellthenames?Consideringitwouldbethelowlyemployeeshandlingthenamewriting,herewouldhavebeenimitableproof
ofanythinglikethislongago.
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[] 7hr0wawayaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyoudidn'tlearntospellcommonnamesuntilcollege?
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[] ghettobruja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.Andwearestoned.
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Wellifiguredthatwentwithoutsaying
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[] Doyoueverjustlikeugh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ok,Dino_Gay
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[] smorbach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lolmyfriendJuliegotacuponcethatsaid"July."iwouldalmostbetthatherbaristawasstoned,bcthatssomethingiwoulddowithout
realizingJulyisafuckingmonth,notaname,ifiwashigh
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[] frillytotes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Julyisawoman'sname,asareseveralothermonths(e.g.January,April,May,June).
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lololololyestojanuary,april,may,andjune.ihavenevermetawomannamedjulythough
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[] fappyday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FoundPhteven!
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[] Batmansbatarang undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahokay,dennogi
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[] ylurt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydidn'taskfornamelasttime:(
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[] Eddie_Hitler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theremustbesomethingtothis.IjustcannotbelieveeverysingleStarbucksbarista,allovertheworld,isthatmonumentallybadat
spelling.
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[] BukakkeTears undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Phteven.
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[] BongLeardDongLick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nahman,myfriendisamanagerataStarbucksandhesaidwhenyournameishorriblybutchereditsbecausethey'reboredandwant
tofuckwithyou.Hewastheonewhoshowedmethisvideo.
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Nahman,myfriendisamanagerataStarbucksandhesaidwhenyournameishorriblybutchereditsbecausethey'rebored
andwanttofuckwithyou.
GeeandIalwaysthoughtitwasbecauseStarbucksemployeeswerefunctionallyretarded.
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2edgy5me.
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[] Kairos27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jokesonthem.Ijusttellbarista'stospellmynameinawaytheycanpronounce,becausethespellingofmynamecansometimes
confusepeople.TheonlytimeIcareaboutspellingisforthingsthatwouldholdlegalramificationsforme,likeutilitybills.
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[] AvastYeUpboat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExplainswhymyfriendZackisconstantlycalledSackatStarbucks.
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[] ZWQncyBkaWNr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaysspellednamesphonetically.Itwouldmesswithpeopletonoendbutatleastit'sforareason.
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[] mattmonkey24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Morethananythingitisathickaccent,mumbling,ortalkingwaytooquiet,usuallythelatter.Sometimespeopledosay"carlawitha
k"soIliterallywritethat
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[] realitysucks12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andthat'swhenyouorderanotherdrinkandpaywithonlypennies.Misspellagain?morepennies.Letsseeyougetborednow.
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[] dangermousejnr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatguyreallyremindsmeofSylar.Iguesshe'dknowhowtogetintomyhead.
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JapaneseStarbucksusesnumberstocallcustomersbecauseyoucan'treallyriskfuckingupsomeone'snameinthisculture.
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[] imfreakinouthere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididn'tevercompletelybutchernames,Ijustfuckedthemupabit.AreyouIsabel?I'mwritingitYsabelle.Mary?You'reMarie.The
keyistogetasmanynameswrongaspossible,butneversowrongthatsomeonewillcallyouonit.Plausibledeniability.
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[] Fatter_Lee_Adama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AslongasIgetwhatIorderedtheycanspellmynamehowevertheywant.
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[] conscienceking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ilovethisvideoPaulishilarious
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[] player2_dz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveworkedinstarbucks,managertoldmefirstdaythatIshouldaskforthespellingofthenameifIdon'tknowitandnotto
purposefullyfuckpeoplesnamesup.Stillwrotepeoplesnameswrongonpurposeoutofsheerboredom.
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Ithonestlywouldn'tbotherme,ifIevergotacoffee.Therearen'tmanywaysyoucanfuckup'Nick',andI'dbeinterestedtoseehow
creativepeoplecangetwithit.
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Thenagain,Idon'tlikecoffeeatall,soI'llneverbeorderingittohavethatchance.
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[] IAmGoingToFuckThat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IreadNickbackwardsthroughanicedcuponceandthoughtitsaidNike.NowNickisNikeandhegetsaswooshonhiscup.
Helikesit.
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[] xmotorboatmygoatx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mabarista,andyoujustgavemeachallenge.YournameisMartelle.
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That'safail.Iwouldn'tcometocollectthatdrink.
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[] cjsolx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gnyc
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Nice,additionofthesilent'g'makesthisonework.
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[] cjsolx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mactuallyreallydisappointedthatIdidn'tthinkof"Gnyque"untilafewminutesagolol.Whatever,"Gnyc"isshort
andsweet.
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LookstoomuchlikeNyQuil,andwouldpronounceitas'Nighque'.
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[] causal_friday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wowthecommentsonthatvideoarestupid.
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[] Trazac undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasataStarbucksrecently.Toldtheguymyname,heconfirmeditwithclarityandthenwroteadifferentnameonthecup.
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[] dshoig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youtookawrongcup
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[] Trazac undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwatchedhimwritethenameonthecup.Iwasalsotheonlypersonwhohadmadeanorder.
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[] Goldielox526 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sometimesthenamesarejusthardtospell,wecouldn'thearyou,orwerebored
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IfBrittanyordersmultipledrinksaIspellthenamedifferentoneachcupsoIhaveabetterchanceofspellingitright.
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IfBrittanyordersmultipledrinksthere'sachancethepersononbarcan'tevenreadhernamebecauseI'mwritingthe
cupsofast.Itryandwritenamesascuteaspossiblebutnoonehastimeforthatduringarush
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[] Baby_sloths undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatvideoislike,pureStarbuckscommercialthough.
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[] jpaulgale undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hey,it'smyvideo:P
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[] LochnessDigital undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhowasyourDPonthis?Iwanttoaskhimwhatlensesheused,specificallythecloseupoftheSharpie@50seconds.
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[] jpaulgale undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cooke5/iLenses,butIthinkitthatshotwaswithamacro??
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[] LochnessDigital undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YetanotherfilmconfirmingwhyIfavorthe"cookelook".Thanks.
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You'readorable!Comeworkwithme.:)therewillbesomanyshenanigans.
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[] HenryStickman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sreallygood!
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[] lilwilly50 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismademelaughman.Keepupthegoodwork.
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[] Buffalo__Buffalo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatlastbitmademethinkofhowthename'Jean'(theFrenchversionof'John')became'Sean'inGaelic.
IthinkStarbucksbaristasarejustamodernexampleofalonghistoryofnametrolling.
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Thatwasgreat.Alsowayhigherthanexpectedproductionvalue.
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[] ghallo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisiswhyIstartedgivingthemrandomnumbersinsteadofmyname.
"What'syourname?"
"749"
"..."
"Really!"
Nomuss,nofussandnoonecanclaimmydrink!
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[] Slithar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisagoodone.Nexttimeatstarbucks.
"Whatsyourname?"
"47".
Dudewontdaretospellitwrong.
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[] Lightsaber_Dicks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idothistoo,buttheystillfindawaytoscrewitup.Forexample,ifIsay"1386"they'llwrite"DurdeenMadysix"
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[] GeoffreyTempest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YesI'm749.Whyareyoutryingtotakemycoffee?
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[] happybadger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mahname'sBuck,andIliketafuck.
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[] AWildAnonHasAppeared undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MynameisRexandIliketohavesex
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[] iamyourcheese undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MynameisNateandIliketomasturbatesleepwithmydate.
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[] GatorAutomator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myname'sNick,sosuckmydick?
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[] K3R3G3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hmm,sowhichredditorshouldIbelieverepresentsallStarbucksemployees?
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[] iLLNiSS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydotheyevenwritenamesonthecupstobeginwith?
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[] cara123456789 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkatmaccasandweuseautogeneratedreceiptnumbers.Peopledon'tanswerALLthedamntime,evenifI'mliterally
makingeyecontactwhilstrepeatingtheirnumber.Ifeelliketheirownnameissomethingacustomermaynotforget
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[] shypster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecauseifJoeordersalattetwominutesbeforeSally,andtheyjustcallout"latte!"Sallymightgrabit.
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[] WombatBeans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavestillhadthathappen.IwastheonlypersonthathadorderedthedrinkIorderedandsomedudestillwalkedoff
withitonce.ImeanwhateverIstillgotmydrink,butIhaveafeelingthatamanthatordersawhitemochawithextra
whitemochaandacaramelswirlthroughoutdidnotenjoymygrandetripleshot,2pumpmochawithnowhip.Justa
feeling.
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He'llprobablybebacktobitchthatheorderedawhitemochaandgotaregularmochainstead.
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[] WombatBeans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nahhe'llsendcorporatehatemailthattheincompetentmenialwageassholesdon'tknowhowtomakehis
diabeetuslattecorrectlyandthat'sit!He'sgoingtoDunkinsohecanhavehiscoffeewithawholeheapof
granulatedsugaronthebottom.
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[] JohnnyReefe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
goddamnmanjustgetahotchocolate
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[] Snailic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atthatpointjustgetabarofchocolateandmeltit.
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[] Reinoud95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ClassicSally
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[] ahab_ahoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sosomeoneelsedoesn'twalkawaywithyourcupifthere'sacoupleordersonthecounter.Andprobablytokeeptrackof
eachcupifmakingseveralordersatonce.
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YouAmericansneedtolearnsomequeueing.
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[] ahab_ahoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Waitinginlineisforchumps!
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[] biladi79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mabarista.Canconfirm.
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[] enry_straker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'macustomer.Canconfirmtoo.
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[] seanmharcailin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orthecustomerismumblingwhileholidaymusicisblaringandeggnogisscreaming.Ilegitthoughtaguysaidhisnamewas
"Dill"once.ItwasCarl
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[] biladi79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IHAAAATEwhencustomersaresofrickenquiet.Brothereisahugecoffeegrinderandmilksteamersandespresso
machinesgoing.Speakthehellup.
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[] Im_Dad_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hiabarista,I'mdad
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That'swhyIalwaysgivefakenamesatcoffeehouses.
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THEPLOTTHICKENSASWORKESTRYTOCOVERTHEIRTRACKS
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[] Come_To_r_Polandball undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mcoffee,canconfirm.
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[] mortedarthur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ispelledthisdude'sname"John"as"Chan"oncebecauseofhowthegirlwhowasmakingthedrinkspronouncedit.
ItotallythoughtIwasgoingtogetfiredforthat,butnooneevenblinked...
ItwasatthatpointthatIknewIcouldpushitevenfurther...
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[] cara123456789 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ImeanunlesshewasAsianorsomethingandcalledracismwhatcouldhappen?
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[] mortedarthur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"John"wasprettymuchtheonlywhiteguyinacrowdofAsianpeople.ThebaristawasaLatinagirl...
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[] TheUtican undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,ifanyonesaysanything,"Oops!Must'vemisheardyou,sorry."
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[] elbenji undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasbarista.Canconfirmoryouhaveafuckingcomplicatedname
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[] Mr_Abe_Froman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ambarrista,misspelledmymanager'snametwicetoday.
BigshoutouttotheJohnsouttherewhotellmehowtospellJean.LikeI'venevermetaJan.ClassicJohan.
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[] memoryresident undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
dzhaann
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niftheregisterhaddiacritics.
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[] JakeFromPlanetStFarm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheSausageKingofChicago?
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Yeah,that'sme.
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[] Commando388 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
howititsohardtospellJuan?dotheythinkyou'reanidiotorsomething?
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[] wave100 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Baristacheckingin.Therearedozensofus.Dozens!
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[] upinout undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TypicalJawn
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[] JimmyBoombox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sme.
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Noproblem,JeremyBurnbucks.
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[] misternigga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veworkedthere.Whenwespellyournamewrongonpurpose,it'sbecausethenameisfuckingstupid.Thereareonlysomany
BrynnesandXylarsyouhavetospeaktoeverysingledaybeforeyoufindwaystovent.Ialsousedtodothatdecafthing.Ifthe
managerwasn'tthereI'dgiveeveryoneexceptformyfavouritecustomerstheoppositeofwhattheyordereddecafforregularand
regularfordecaf.BecausefuckyouformakingthecitysounaffordableIhavetoworkheretopaymyrentinsteadoflivingofftheliving
costsportionofmystudentloanslikethosepeoplewhogotoschoolinredneckpodunktownsdo.Yourstupidnameisrubbingitinmy
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face.Ifyouhadtoworklikearegularpersonandhadtobetakenseriouslyyouwouldnothaveashitnamelikethat.
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[] garnetcaid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostpeopledon'tchoosetheirnamesyoucan'tblamethemforhavingweirdones.Also,weirdnamesaren'tjustconfunedto
yuppiekidsandsuburbia.Andyoucouldactuallyhurtsomeonebadlyorevenkillthembypurposefullymessingupordersifthey
havereactionstothings:/
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[] allahkedavra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'reeitheratrolloracunt.Soacunteitherway,actually.
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YouknowIreallyamtiredofselfrighteouspricksontheinternetcallingmenamesoverthiskindofshit.You'ddothesameif
youhadanyballs.Studyhardinschoolsoyoucangetintoapositionwhereyoucandothiskindofthingopenlyandnot
sufferanyconsequencessoyoucanactuallydosomethingmeaningfulinsteadofjustdoingitasafuckyou.It'swhatIdid.
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Studyhardsoyoucanbeadicktopeople?Cuntconfirmed.
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Studyhardsothatwhensomeone'sbeinganassholeyoucandosomerealdamagetotheminsteadofhavingto
dopettylittlethingslikegivingthemdecafinsteadofregularbecauseyoucan'taffordtoloseajob.
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Nobodywasbeinganassholeinyourstorythough...Theyjusthadnamesyoudidn'tlike.
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[] gr8naigi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isdecafsomekindofcaffeinefree/lowcaffeinecoffeorwhat?
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[] SmellsOfTeenBullshit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydidn'tdoanythingtoyou.HowisorderingdecafandhavingastupidnameforcingyoutoworkatStarbucks?Yousoundlikea
fuckingcunt.
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Gentrification.ThiswasbackwhenIwasinuniversity.Otherstudentswholivedinpodunktownscouldliveofftheirstudent
loanswhereasIhadtohustletokeeparoofovermyheadbecausemyhomethatIgrewupinbecamecooltothesedo
nothingidlyrichkids.IchallengeyoutofindmeanyonenamedBrynneorXylarwhoactuallyworksforalivinginsteadof
hangingaroundStarbucksyammeringonabouttheirlittlewhateveritisInstagramaccountthing.They'refuckingworthless
parasites.Explaintomehowhangingaroundsomenightclubtakingselfies4nightsaweekprovidesanythingforsociety,let
alonejustifiesbringinginthousandsofRussianbillionaire'strustfundbratswhoinsteadofworkinghostweeklongcoke
partiesthatendintriplehomicides.
NowthatIworkinthepublicservicemyworkplacemoraleismuchhigher.YoutryhavingtodealwithStarbuckscustomers
everyday.
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[] APsWhoopinRoom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatstilldoesn'tjustifyyouractions.Youmadeallsortsofassumptionsanddecidedtoactlikeadouchebecauseof
saidassumptions
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[] SmellsOfTeenBullshit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tknowtheywedidn'tworkfromtheirnames.Yousaidyoudidittoeveryonenotjusttheoneswithstupid
names.Youbeingashitheadisnotjustifiedbytheirwealthandhonestlyifyoutakeoutyourunhappinesswithyourjob
outonyourcustomersyoudon'tdeservetosucceed.Ihopethenextcoffeeyoubuycontainsliteralhumanshit.
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[] jcskarambit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hilariouslyyouhavemoretodowithhightuitionratesandbadcostoflivingrates.
Youjustadmittedthatitmakesmoresenseforyoutolivesomewhereelse.Yetyoucontinuetolivethereandcontinuetomakelife
difficultforyourselfandthepeoplearoundyouwithyourwhiningandimmoralbehavior.Shutupandmakeareasonablelogical
choiceinsteadofbitchingabouthowtheworldisunfair.Toughshittheworldisnotfair.Whiningaboutitandexpectingotherstofix
yourlifeforyouischildish.Suckitupbuttercup.
Andstopreplacingdecafandregularcoffees.Thatshitisjustnotcool.
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Soyoupassiveaggressivelytakeyourownfrustrationsoutonothers?Yeahthatsoundslikeagoodsolution
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Whosaidanythingaboutasolution?Whydoeseverythinghavetobeasolutiontoaproblem.Sometimesyoujustdon'tlike
someoneandwanttofuckwiththem.It'snormal.
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Yeah,butyou'resupposedtofuckwithpeopleyouknow,notfuckuptheordersofrandomcustomersfornoreason
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Istheresomekindoflinethatneedstobecrossedbeforeyou'reallowedtosabotagesomeone'scoffeeor
something?Mindyourownbusiness.TheymadethedecisionwhentheycameintoaStarbuckstoplaytheodds
thatthepeopleworkingtherewillhatethem.Ifyoudon'tlikethat,youneedtogopatronizeanestablishment
withoutculturalbaggage.IfIseeyoucomingintothisplaceeverysingledaydespitetherebeingadozenbetter
indiecoffeeplaceswithinafewblocksI'mgoingtoassumeyou'renotworthyofgoodcoffee.
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No,thatisacompletelyunacceptableattitudetohave,hencewhyyougotallthedownvotes.Youwere
beingpaidtodoajob,andyoudecidedtofuckwithcustomersinsteadofdoingyourjob.Notok.Also,those
customerspaidfortheirdrinks,andtheydeservedtoreceivewhattheypaidfor.It'snotyourplacetodecide
"they'renotworthyofgoodcoffee."Theydidn'tdeservetheshityoudid.
Don'tfuckwithpeople'sordersjustbecauseyourlifesucks
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Whosaysmylifesucks?I'mhappywithmylife.Iwasn'ttwoyearsagowhenIwasworkingatthis
shithole.UltimatelyIgotthelastlaughonallofthembecauseIendedupinagoodplaceandthey're
stillneuroticloserswhogotothesameshitcoffeeshopatthesametimeeverysingledaytogetthe
samethingeventhoughtheymustknowhalfthepeoplewhomakeitforthemhavespilledabagof
espressobeans,moppedthemupandstucktheminthehopper.
It'sStarbucks.It'snotrealpeople.
Idon'tknowwhyyou'reactingsoselfrighteous.Everyoneshouldbeforcedtoworkatleastayearin
aretailorfoodserviceenvironmentsotherewouldbefewerselfentitledmoronsrunningaroundand
thereforelessneedforthissortofpettysabotage.
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LolIlikehowyouthinkyouknewallthesepeoplethatyouneversawoutsideofthecupof
coffeethattheyorderedeveryday.Andyouhavenoroomtocallanyoneneuroticwhenyou
weretheoneconstantlyjudgingthechoicesofothersandthenfuckingwiththeirordersbased
uponsaidridiculousjudgements.
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That'sprettyshittyofyoutobehonest.Somepeoplecannothavecaffeineformedicalreasons.It'snotagoodideaforpregnant
womentohaveitmoderateamountsandthere'slotsofdifferentanxiety/depressionmedicinethatdoesn'tplaynicewithit.
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[] Jubez187 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lotsofpeoplewhoaskfordecafactuallyneedit.MyBrosanxietywillskyrocketifhetakescaffeine
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Lolwhataloser.
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[] pizzatown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samehere.Notgoodforbloodpressureeither,pregnancy,andsomepeoplehavequalmswiththe"substance"morally.
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[] 2211abir 172points
Ithinkalotofthingsfallunder"sotheyshareitonsocialmediathuscreatingfreeadvertising."
E.g.stupidthingsTrumpeveryfamouspersonsaysordoes
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somethingsomething,lawyerinsaudiarabia,...threatentosue...isis...socialmedia
...prophet
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[] slicebishybosh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PilesoffreeiPads.
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[] heyimthecatlady undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mpartofafacebookgroupofLeagueoflegends.ThegameissobiginKoreathatthereareCocaColacansdesignedwith
charactersofthegame.AndtheybelievethatifwesharepicsofthemtaggingtheCEOthatmanagesthebrandinChiletheywill
bringthem.TheCEOevenencouragesthemtoshareitanditwillseeifhe'llbeabletobringthemaccordingtopeople
sharing/liking.Ican'tbelievetheybuythiscrap...
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[] Damn_Dog_Inappropes 3038points
Swarley
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[] heyyoowhatsupbitches undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sometimesyouwannago,whereeverybodyknowsyourname!
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[] Swarles_Stinson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcalled?
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[] SwarleyStinson21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes?
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[] Damn_Dog_Inappropes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Legendary!
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[] myslquestionaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Phteven
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[] PixelWarrior5253 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseriouslyjustfinishedthewholeseries10minutesagoandI'msohappythatpeoplestillreferenceit.
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[] Zer0Mike1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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What'dyouthinkoftheending?
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[] puncakes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheEarthKinghasinvitedyoutoLakeLaogai.
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[] Zer0Mike1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...Excuseme?
IsthissomekindofreferenceI'mmissing?
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[] your_mind_aches undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaHAAAAshecalledyouRoland.
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[] OptimusTardis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RockandRoland....
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[] Mr_Xing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Warsawisthecapital...ofRoland.
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You'reMonicaRolandskyhahaha
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[] PokemonMaster619 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicetry,Swarley.
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[] chickenKsadilla undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Swarleyhookedyouup?"
"Ohgoodyougotmytext."
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[] TubasAreFun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamserious,anddon'tcallmeSwarley.
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[] KyleRaynerGotSweg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIgotacallhereforSwarlesBarkley?
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It'sSwarlesBartleythough
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It'smostdefinitelySwarlesBarkley.
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IT'SASSUREDLYSWARLESBARTLEY
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[] LegendaryOutlaw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsignedhimupforPeopleenEspaolunderthename'Swarlos.'
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[] EthanT65 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibrueafruseinmybruic
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[] lourensloki undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Swarlos!
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[] BrainArrow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CookPoo!
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[] ayeman1234 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
keepcallingmethat,ilikeitnow
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[] ProstenHolm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BobSwarleyman
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[] indigoreality undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No!
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[] ThePsych18 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BobSwarleymon
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[] swarles_barkley2113 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yourang?
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[] Gsusruls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Watchedthisepisodetoday.
Also,closestIhaveeverbeentobeingstarstruckwhenImethimonanairplane.HewaspissedthatIdidn'tknowhim
frombasketball.NopeIrememberhimfromSpaceJam.
Yeah,hewasclearlypissed.
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[] BlooFlea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdid..howdidyouknowhesaidyourname?
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DudeI'mlikeTomBombadil.
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[] ShartiusBluff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tyouhaveyourownplaceSwarheely?
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Hahaplease.
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[] aek427 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
How?
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[] Catty_Wumpus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youwillneverhaveacommentthatgetsthismanyupvotesagain.Youearnedit.
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Icametotermswiththatwhenitwentpast300.thanksu/Catty_Wumpus
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[] thebush007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
r/retiredusername
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[] mister11th undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
praisehosanna,praiserang
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/r/retiredusername
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[] _brainfog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sDavidBlaine
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(Youwannaseesomemagic?)[https://youtu.be/eYVEvQKfcpM]
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[] legendofsteve undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HIMYMandCoheedfan?Rad.
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Yeahman,Ilovethebyebyebeautifulsong!!!JustkiddingmanI'vebeenafansince04.
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[] sprinkulz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thesepeople100%knoweachothertheresnoway.
thatsmyconspiracy
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Andwewouldhavegottenawaywithittoifitwasn'tforu/sprinkulz.
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[] sprinkulz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
imlikeareallifemythbuster
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ShitSwarleshe'sontous,cheeseit!
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ROBOTHOUSE!!!
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[] TiiiMMMaHHH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/retiredusername
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[] GiantsNut57 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1,071days...Damnhaveyoubeenwaitingforthismomentthewholetime?
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Yup.Icanfinallygetoffthiswebsitenow.Isstumbleuponstillathing?
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[] MancThrow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anaccountfor1071days...Damn.
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I'vewaitedforthismomentforalmost3years.
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[] serifith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
congratsbro
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thanksbruh
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[] InhaledWindex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whentheclockreads2113
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[] GoBrandiRanger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditorfor2years.Checksout./r/beetlejuicing
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[] xabe13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoesoneseeasummonoftheirname?
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Ifyou'redirectlytaggedbyusername,theotherperson'sexplanationiscorrect.However,withbeetlejuicing,
thepointisthattheysupposedlyheartheirnamecalledandcometoanswerwithoutbeingtagged.Like
beetlejuice.
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[] Angusthebear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yougetaninboxnotification.I'lltagyouinareplytothiscommentsoyoucansee
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[] xabe13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,Iknowthis,butifsomebodysayssomethingthatisclosetoauser'sname,theysometimes
magicallyappear.Ausercalleditbeetlejuicing.
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[] x1xHangmanx1x undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saconglomeratewebsiteofmillionsofwittyusernames.IhadanaltcalledSirCumstancesoI
couldpopupundervariouscircumstances.Itseemsunlikelythatyoumightseeyourusername
broughtupinpassing,butalotmorelikelythanyou'dthinkifyouhavesomethingcommon
Englishlike/u/doesntlikepicklesor/u/hatesnastythingslikethator/u/screwspenguins
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[] Angusthebear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/u/xabe13isacoolguy
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[] SeanHaruya undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/ofcoursethatsathing
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[] agentsmiith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MarcwithaC=Carc.
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[] UrMomsFavoritePlaya undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThankgodyoucheckeditoutcauseIwouldn'tbeabletosleeptonightifyoudidn't!
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[] StuntmanSpartanFan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhe'sthe2113thone!
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[] iamyourcheese undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
But2112isthemagicalnumber...
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[] XxDahREDDITnaytarxX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'rebothmagicaltome.
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[] SmackaMyPaca undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihadnoideathiswasasubreddit
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[] soliloquay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fuckyou
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[] BloodyErection undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FoundoutlastnightafterIwastaggedinone
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Nomatterwhatitis,there'salwaysasubredditforit.
Edit:it'slikeReddit'sversionofrule34.
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[] crathera undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rule34.1ANDasubreddit.
Rule34.2ANDasubredditwithpornofit.
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Rule34.3ANDajokeversion,eg/r/shittyyoursubreddit
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Bobswarleymahn
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FirstepisodeIeverwatched,itgotmehooked.
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[] MabX666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohyeaholdswarls
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[] inputmethod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IheardhemovedtomexicoandchangedhisnametoSwarlos.
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[] yoinker272 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SwarlieandtheChocolateFactory
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SwarlesBarkley
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Whatuuuup
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[] ZamrosX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
redditorfor2years
Continue...
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[] yoinker272 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DamienSwarley
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[] 2RINITY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WeSpelledYourNameWrong,SwarlieBrown
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[] PMMeA10DollarPSNCode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sFrank,notswarley!
Everydamntime!
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[] TheSuicidalSheep undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob,Imean,thinkaboutit.
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theplaneswerefoundinsidethebuilding...
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[] noavailable 5points
IliketobelieveIlluminatisarereal.
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[] UrrCousinVinny 147points
Thesameperson,withanewusername,keepspostingthesame"ConspiracyTheory"topicoverandoveragaintoreapupvotes
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Whatthefuck...
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Thesameorganizationwithdifferentusernameskeepspostingconspiracytheoryresponsestodiscreditlegitimateissues.
Forexamplethedankmeme:"JetFuelCan'tMeltSteelBeams"...sure,maybetheflamesweakenedthesteelbeamsandcausedthe
collapse.Whatcausedthepoolsofmoltensteelthelastedformonths?Itendsupbeingagooddisinformationcampaign.Thatandthe
newoneof"7/11wasaparttimejob."
Youdon'thavetogofullretardon9/11conspiracies,butthere'senoughsuspiciousstuffthatgetswavedawayviamemes.
Ifyouwanttobeatthelowestlevelofit,thewholeFlight93gettingshotdownseemslikesomethingtobecoveredup.
Evenifthestorywasexactlywhatitwas,lookatourresponse...endupallcivilliberitiesandwarswithcompletelyunrelatedcountries.
Theytookadvantageofthatincident,anditlookslikewhattheydidwasalreadyplannedfor.PATRIOTActwasHUGE,wentthrough
withnoonereadingit.Warsthatlaunchedwithoutcongress.Nomatterwhatthetruth,theincidentallowedforeitherthemostcorruptor
ineptresponse,andthere'snotingwecandoaboutit.
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Thelizardpeoplewouldn'tallowit,surely?
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[] oneof10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yougetnolinkkarmafromselfposts.Commentkarma,maybe.
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That'swhattheywantyoutothink
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[] oneof10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sinister.
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Nexttimeismyturn.
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[] Mozzerrr 11points
Kindawishitwastrue,buti'mhonestlynoteventhatcool.Niceguessthough.You'llgettheresomeday!
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[] Kingofqueenanne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestquestionthough:wereyouunawarethatyourthread'squestionhasbeenaskedahighamountoftimesinthispopular,
highlytraffickedsubreddit?
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[] dynoraptor 1point
Hmforsomereasonyoufelttheneedtodenyit
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[] smday55 6points
That'sexactlywhatsomeonewhokeepspostingthesamequestionundervariouspseudonymswouldsay!
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[] Mozzerrr 9points
o_OIthinkyou'reontosomething..You'restartingtoconvincemeofmyownconspiracy.
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[] Aroha11 0points
What,again?
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[] PM_ME_BAKED_ZITI 35points
Donaldtrumpjoinedthepresidentialraceasajoke
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[] Solsometimes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sturningitintoajoke.
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[] smday55 24points
Iwouldn'tsay"joke",butrather"satire".Ihopehedidittoshowjusthowbrokenthesystemis.
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Thefunnythingisheistheonlyonethatdoesn'tspeakinpoliticalnonsenseandheiswinningpeopleoverbecauseofit.
Ifeellikemostpoliticianstalkfor5minutestomakea5wordpoint.Trumpislikefuckitandjustsaysit.
It'salmostsadheiswinningpollsbecauseheisfarfromqualified,buthemakestherestoftheRepublicanslookretarded.
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HemakestheDemocratslookretardedtoo.PeoplearevotingforhimbecausetheyseeTrumpsmiling,thinking,lookatthese
dipshits,theydon'tevenknowhowtodealwithme.
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Ithinkhewasdared.
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[] BlatantConservative 794points
IwouldntbesuprisedifObamaactuallywasaMuslimandhadtohideitbecauseofthebigotswhowouldhaverippedhimapartforit.I
dunnoabout"probablytrue"butitsalegitimatethinginmymind.
Buraq(orBarrack)isaMuslimname,andHusseinisaMuslimname,aoObama'sparentsweredefinitelyMuslim.Itmakessensethat
hewasatleastMuslimasachild.
Iwannamakeitclear,theonlybadthingaboutthisconspiracywouldbethatourfirstMuslimpresidenthadtohidehisreligion.
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AndChristianBaleisChristianbecauseofhisname,andBearGryllisisanactualbear.
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[] aperfectmonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BtwBuraqisnotamuslimorarabicname.Itsasweirdsoundingtousasitistoyou.(Husseinisarabicthough).
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[] Fenixx117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeisanAtheistalmostassureashisparentswere
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[] apullin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sareasonablechancethathewasn'tborninHawaii.Thereisstillthatunresolvedissuewithhissocialsecuritynumber.
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Wow,yougotalmost700leftwingsimpletonstoupvoteyou.Congratulations.
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[] IPAs_and_rain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MysisterbrieflydatedaguynamedBarack...HewasJewish
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[] kperkins1982 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisdoesn'treallypanoutifyouthinkaboutit.
AlltheMuslimsIknowareveryproudoftheirreligion/culture,I'mnotsureObamaknewhewasgoingtobeapoliticianbeforeit
happened.
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Don'tyouthinkifhewasMuslimatsomegoingbetweentheagesof10and30aphotowouldhavebeentakenofhimnearaMosque
orsomething?
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[] Dishonoreduser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Erm,thisdoesn'texactlypanout.OnyangoObama,Barack'spaternalgrandfatherconvertedtoIslamlaterinlifeandadoptedthename
Hussein.
Obamahasstatedthatbothofhisparentsweren'tveryreligious,andhisonlyconnectiontoIslamwashispaternalgrandfather.
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WhateverhappenedtohimbelongingtoachurchwithablackChristianpastoryelling"GODDAMNAMERICA!"?Rememberthatinhis
firstyearofpresidency?
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[] Machcharge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Usernamechecksout.Wellplayed
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[] BlatantConservative undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ivebeenwaitingforsomeonetopointthisout
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Exceptrememberhiskindofwackyministerwhosechurchheattendedforyears?
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JustBCsomeone'sparentsbelieveinareligiondoesn'tmeantheirchildrendo.Somepeoplethinkbeyondwhatthey'retold.
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Hisfatherisanatheist,notaMuslim.
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Thishasthesameproblemthatthebirthertheoryhas:itrequiresheandhisfamilytohaveanticipatedthathewouldrunforPresident
someday,andstarthidingpartsofhishistorystarting40+yearsago.Thingsthatarecompletelylegalandinnocuousifyou'renot
runningforPresident.
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Iam99%surethatmostpoliticianseverywhereareatheists,andtheirpublicreligiouspersonaearecreatedinordertopandertoan
audience.
Becausepeoplewhoaresmartenoughtogettothatlevelofpower,andthatcapableofdecidingtheirownfate,wouldhaveabsolutely
noreasontoputfaithinahigherpower.
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[] AThrowaway454 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhydidhespendallthattimeinWright'schurchthen?
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[] aclashingcolour undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherereallyisntmuchtosuggestthatheidentifiesasMuslim.GiveBarrack'sbook,DreamsfrommyFather,aread.Itwaswrittenjust
afterhegraduatedfromlawschool,andmorethanadecadebeforeheranforSenate.Giventheotherpoliticallyinconvenientfactshe
mentions(hisdruguse,forexample)Ihaveeveryreasontobelievethebookissincere.Basically,hisfatherwasMuslim,butBarrack
onlymethimahandfuloftimes.HegrewupwithhisAmerican,ChristianMotherinIndonesia,andwithhisgrandparentsinAmerica.
AsacommunityorganizerdidagreatdealofworkwithchurchesinChicago.
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Ehhhe'sbrokenseveralimportanttenetsofIslamseveraltimes..HismotherwasalsoawhiteChristianifIremember,hewasbornin
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HawaiiandraisedintheUS.ChancesareheiseitherChristianorsomesortofatheist.AlthoughifheisaMuslimthatistheexact
samethingassomeonebeingaChristiantome.
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Orthathe"identifie[d]asblack"togettheblackvote.
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[] Kingolingus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouneedtoeditthepartaboutbothhisfolksbeingMuslims.Theywereatheists.
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[] MrFalconGarcia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'reArabicnames,notMuslimnames.
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[] flaming_oranges undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OnBarackObamaSr.
[ObamaJr.]describedhisfatherasa"confirmedatheist"bythetimehisparentsmet,andhisstepfatheras"amanwhosawreligion
asnotparticularlyuseful."
Onhismother,AnnDunham.
Inhis1995memoirDreamsfromMyFather,BarackObamawrote,"Mymother'sconfidenceinneedlepointvirtuesdependedona
faithIdidn'tpossess...Inaland[Indonesia]wherefatalismremainedanecessarytoolforenduringhardship...shewasalonely
witnessforsecularhumanism,asoldierforNewDeal,PeaceCorps,positionpaperliberalism."
Inhis2006bookTheAudacityofHopeObamawrote,"Iwasnotraisedinareligioushousehold...Mymother'sownexperiences...
onlyreinforcedthisinheritedskepticism.HermemoriesoftheChristianswhopopulatedheryouthwerenotfondones...
Dunham'sdaughter,MayaSoetoroNg,whenaskedlaterifhermotherwasanatheist,said,"Iwouldn'thavecalledheranatheist.
Shewasanagnostic.
So,Obama'sfatherwasanatheist,andhismotherwasnotreligious.EspeciallygivenhismothersbadexperienceswithChristianity,I
findithardtobelievethatheisreligious,letaloneChristian.
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IreallydoubtthatbecauseheisahighlyeducatedwesternmanwithanIQover140.Hecan'tsayhe'satheistoragnosticbecausehe
plannedtoholdoffice.
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[] anominouscoward undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyoueverseenhimeatingbacon?
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[] gypsywhisperer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhe'sanexMuslim,butnowagnosticoratheist.
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Obama'smotherwasanonreligiouswhitewomanfromKansas.Hewasraisednonreligious,buthisgrandparentsandmotherhad
beenmembersofaUnitarianchurchbefore.Obamaopenlywroteabouthisfather,BarackSr.,andhisMuslimgrandfather,Hussein,in
DreamsFromMyFather.Hisdad'sfamilyiscertainlyMuslim,butObamadiscussedattendingachurchinChicagoaspartofhis
communityorganizingworkbeforelawschool.Inhisfirstbook(publishedoriginallyin1995),hecreditsthischurchasthecatalystthat
convertedhimtoChristianity.
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[] Cluedout undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Or...Maybetheyjustlikedthenames?Peopleusenamesallthetimethataren'tpartoftheirownheritagebecausetheyliketheway
theysound/whattheymean.
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[] SoldierofNod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedrinksbeerandeatspork,though.
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[] ScrewJimBean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sprobablyafactthathewouldnothavebeenelectedifitcameoutthatheisMuslim.Ifhehidhisreligionjusttobeelectedthat
seemskindofshadytome.I'mnotclaiminghehidjustcounteringyourargument.
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He'sanatheist,ifanything.Christianforpolitics,butactuallyatheist
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[] stellacampus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HewasnamedBarackHussein,becausehisfatherwasnamedBarackHusseinthatisbecauseHISparentswereinfactMuslim.
ObamaSr.whileraisedinaMuslimfamily,ultimatelybecameanatheist,butitdoesn'tparticularlymatteranyway,sincehewasbarely
apartofObamaJr.'slife.HismothermostcertainlywasnotaMuslimeitherandIcan'tbelieveyouactuallysaid"ao(sp)Obama's
parentsweredefinitelyMuslim."insertfacepalmherebecausehewasnamedforhisfather.Wow.ObamaSr.changedhisoriginal
name"Baraka"to"Barack",tospecificallydeMuslimizeit.Itwasnotfrom"Buraq"asBarakaitselfisalreadyaMuslimname
representingthespirit/presenceofGodflowingthroughone.Therealconspiracyhere?TryingtocoveruptheirJediorigins.
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[] IvanKozlov undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'stheworstMuslimeverthen.ThemaneatsporkandhasneverbeenseenprayingfacingMeccawhenthetimestodoso
happened.
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[] DeanDipp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowaguythatthinksObamaisactuallyBinLaden
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Well.He'sinitforthelongconconsideringthatheattendedacatholicchurchfortwentyyears,gotmarriedinone,andthengotalotof
shitbecausehispastor(sameoneheattendedandwasmarriedby)saidstupidshitaboutwhitepeoplebeingevil.
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[] raivetica20 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'relookingtoodeepintothis.Hewasliterallyjustnamedafterhisfather,BarackHusseinObama,Sr.Hisfatherwasoriginally
namedBarakaObama,butIbelieveitwaslaterchangedwhenhisgrandfatherconvertedtoIslam.Furthermore,BarackObama,Sr.
wasanatheistatthetimeofPresidentObama'sbirth.Ontopofthat,accordingtohissister,hismotherwasagnosticandraisedhimin
ahouseholdthatwasopentoallreligionsbutwasalsoskeptical.Ithinkifanything,BarackObamaiseithernotveryinvolvedinreligion
oragnostic.
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It'sbigotrytopersecutehimblindlyjustforhisreligiouspreference(whateveritmaybe).
It'snotbigotrytopointoutalonghistoryofmakingexcusesforthatreligionthroughwhat'srapidlybecomingcountlessactsofviolence.
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[] TwoLargePrimes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'dbehilariousandsweet,iftrue.I'msuremanypastpresidentshavehadtohidetheiratheism,asAmericansareonlycapableof
electingChristians.
It'sreallysadthoughthatyourtruereligionhastobehidden,whetheryou'reJewish,Muslim,oranAtheist.
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[] YuanShikai undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhataboutSanders?
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Hasn'tbeenelectedyet!HisreligionwillsurelybetargetedbytheRepublicanside,andit'llcausehimtolosemajorsupportin
theSouth.
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[] Studebakers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butwhatabouthimdrinkingalcohol?Imean,that'sprettynonMuslim.
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IfyouevervisitTurkeyyou'llbeinforasurprise...
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[] How2999 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TonyBlairhidthathewasacatholic.Althoughtobefairourconstituiondoeshavesomeissuesaroundcatholics,intheory.
TheBritishpublicdoesnthaveanissuewithcatholics,ithinkwedohaveanissuewithreligioninpolitics,keepittoyourselfkindathing.
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[] gamedemon24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,itmakessenseonpaper,butsomethingaboutthetheoryjustseemsofftome.
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[] RidleyKnight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snowayhe'saChristian.Ithinkit'spossiblehe'saMuslim,butit'smorelikelyhe'sanatheist.Butthereismoreevidence
(includinghowhisactionsrelatetoChristianteachings)tosuggesthe'snotaChristianthanthereisevidencetosuggestheis.
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Ithinkhe'dbeamuchbetterguyifheactuallywasaMuslim.
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[] jonloovox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'dprobablybeatickingtimebomb.
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Heprobablywouldn'tbedroningMuslims.
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[] NobodyMinus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExceptBarackmeans"blessed"inLuo,andisderivedfromtheHebrew"Baruch".Husseinliterallyjustmeans"littlehandsomeone"in
Arabic,andisaprettycommonname.SimplyhavinganArabicnamedoesn'tmakeoneaMuslim.
BarackObamaSr.convertedfromIslamtoAnglicanismwhenhewas6becauseofChristianmissionaryschool,andchangedhisname
fromBarakatoBarackbecauseitwasmoresecular.BythetimeBarackJr.wasborn,BarackSr.Wasanavowedatheist.Hismother,
StanleyAnnDunham,wasaformerBaptist.NeitherwereMuslims,andBarackObamaneverpracticedIslam.
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[] voyetra8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MydaughterhasanArabicname,andI'manatheistwhoiswhiterthanTaylorSwiftbleachedasshole.
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[] rebo2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BarackactuallymeanslightninginHebrew.SometimesfoundasalastnameinIsrael.
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[] jfolstrp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwouldgivegoldifIhadmoney.Greatcomment.Learnedalot.
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HusseinwasMuhammed'sgrandson,whileitdoesmean"beautiful"thenamesurvivedbecauseofthefirstreason,mostlyMuslim
Shiasusethisname.
i'mneutralonthisconspiracyandi'mjustcorrectingyourcomment.
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Youarelettingfactsgetinthewayofagoodconspiracy,dude.
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ThemostimportantthingI'mreadinghereisthatmom'snameisStanleylol.
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[] AllRushMixtape undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andchangedhisnamefromBarakatoBarackbecauseitwasmoresecular.
Ithoughtitwasbecausehedidn'thaveretractablebladesinhisarms.
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Actually,BarackObamaSr.didinfacthaveretractablearmblades,andtheMortalKombatcharacterwasactuallybasedon
him.
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[] AllRushMixtape undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,wow.Ineverrealizedthat.I'mgoingtogomakeaTILpostnow.
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[] The_Count_Lives undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
But...IjustreadthatbothhisparentswereDEFINITELYMuslim.WhatshouldIbelieve?!?
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Imean,ifyouwantyoucandosomeresearchtoverify.
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Nojusttellme.Idon'thavetimetoreadandtellpeopleIworkwithaboutthis.
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[] jpop23mn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HismomsnamewasStanley.TIL
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BlessedHottie
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Nottomentionthatgrowingup,andevenatHarvardhewas"Barry"Obama.
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AndifhehadbeenraisedMuslimasachild,hewould'veadmitteditinDreamsfromMyFather.Hewrotethatin1995,whenhe
didn'tevendreamofbecomingPresident.
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[] runaway_truck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tyourememberwhenhedrewthatpictureinkindergartensayinghewantedtobepresident?
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Whatchilddoesn'tdreamofbeingpresident?
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[] epwehrwein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
astronauthere
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[] JWiLLii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIwasalittlekidIalwayssaidthatIdidn'twanttobecomeapresidentbecauseIdidn'twanttobe
assassinated.
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IwantedtobeSpiderMan.
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Isee.Ialwaysdreamedofbeingpresidentsoicouldjailallthe"dumbasses"(stillthinkthatmightbea
goodidea)
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[] gottatrollemall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Who'sgoingtobuildyourwall?
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Wellpaidworkingclasspeoples?
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[] ZaBlanc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MylastnameisSpanishbutI'mnotSpanish.
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[] MyDaddyTaughtMeWell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igetyourpointandcouldsaythesame,butitwouldbemorefittingtosaythatyourlastnameisSpanishbutyou'renotCatholic.
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mind=blown.
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[] kingbasspro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BothofthenamesIgobyareHebrewasfuckbutI'mnotJewishandnoneofmyfamilyis.
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[] spud_simon_salem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HisbiologicalfatherwasaMuslimbutObamawasraisedbyhisChristianmotherandstepfather.Sohewasn'treallybroughtup
Muslimoranythinglikethat.DefinitelyraisedChristian.
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[] alongdaysjourney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HisMuslimfatherwasalsoaprettybigdrinker,sonotexactlyaperfectmemberofthefaith.
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[] Pug_grama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HehasmadesomestrangestatementsforsomeonewhoisnotaMuslim:
1ThefuturemustnotbelongtothosewhoslandertheProphetofIslam
2ThesweetestsoundIknowistheMuslimcalltoprayer
3WewillconveyourdeepappreciationfortheIslamicfaith,whichhasdonesomuchover
thecenturiestoshapetheworldincludinginmyowncountry.
4Asastudentofhistory,IalsoknowcivilizationsdebttoIslam.
5Islamhasaproudtraditionoftolerance.
6IslamhasalwaysbeenpartofAmerica
7WewillencouragemoreAmericanstostudyinMuslimcommunities
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8AmericaandIslamarenotexclusiveandneednotbeincompetition.Instead,theyoverlap,
andsharecommonprinciplesofjusticeandprogress,toleranceandthedignityofallhuman
beings.
10ImadeclearthatAmericaisnotandneverwillbeatwarwithIslam.
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Youdon'tneedtouseboldtomakeyourclaimsseemmorebelievable.
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Iwasn'ttryingtouseboldface.Iwasjusttryingtomakealist.Notsurewhyitwenttoboldface.
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[] dangerbird2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyoneknowsconspiracytheoriesaremorebelievablewhenyouuseboldfacecolorfulfonts.
Caseinpoint
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[] rekta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotgoingtogothroughalltenbecauseIdon'tactuallycarethatmuch,but:
2:Thevideoexaggerates.KristofactuallydescribedObamasaccentas"firstrate"butnot"perfect."AndObamasaidthecallto
prayeris"oneof"theprettiestsounds,nottheprettiestofall.Thesedistortionsareminor,butstillpartofasystematic
misrepresentationoftherecord.
4:Gee,whatanoffensivestatement.HowverydareObamaacknowledgethingslikearabicnumeralsandalltheothercontributions
medievalIslamiccountriesmadetomodernmathematics.
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[] bceltics933 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomention
10:YoumeanAmericaisn'tatwarwithawholeentirereligion?Hiterdidnothingwrong,amiright?
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[] CaptainApathy419 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,asidefrom#1and#2(I'dbeinterestedtoseeasourceforthose),allofthosequotescouldhavecomefrom
PresidentBush.
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TheHinduArabicnumeralswereinventedbymathematiciansinIndia.Theywerecalled"Hindunumerals".Theywere
latercalled"Arabic"numeralsbyEuropeans,becausetheywereintroducedintheWestbyArabmerchants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system
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[] Batmanstarwars1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Absolutely,peoplewerelosingtheirdamnmindswhenKennedywaselectedbecausehewasCatholic.
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[] upbeat_addict undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenameisHebrew.It'saformofBaruch.
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[] stellacampus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,Muslimsdon'tgivetheirkidsHebrewnames.BarakaandBarucharetwoformsofasemiticrootisabetterwaytoputit.
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HisfatherwasaMuslim,oratleastbornaMuslim.Thereisnodebateaboutthat.
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I'mnotdebatinghisfather'sreligion.I'mdebatingOP'sassertionofthe[blog.dictionary.com/barackobamaname/](originof
thename).Thelinkdoesn'tevensupporthisassertion.
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[] GeneticMess 636points
Ithinkit'smorelikelyhe'sanatheist.Andnotourfirstatheistpresident.Ithinktherehavebeenseveralpresidentsthatareatheistor
agnosticbutwhocouldn'tcomeoutassuch.
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ThereislittledoubtthatJeffersonwasanatheist,orattheveryleastadeist.
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[] Holiday_in_Asgard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThomasJeffersonIbelievepubliclyquestionedtheexistenceofGod.
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[] RoboChrist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msureRomneyisanatheist.Thedudeisverysmart,welleducated,andhasalotofexposuretootherreligions.Andanyonewho
hasallofthosetraitsisnotgoingtobelieveinMormonism.TherearetoomanyobviousholesinthestoriesrelatingtoJoseph
Smith.
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[] TheLoudThoughts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FucktheBiblebeltandliteralistevangelicals,amIright?It'sokaytohaveareligionandbeproudofit,butlikeapenis,don'tfucking
shoveitdownmythroatorforfuck'ssakemakeitthecenterpieceofourpolicies.
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[] yabo1975 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DefinitelyLincolnforsure:
"MyearlierviewsoftheunsoundnessoftheChristianschemeofsalvationandthehumanoriginofthescriptures,havebecome
clearerandstrongerwithadvancingyearsandIseenoreasonforthinkingIshalleverchangethem."
"Iamapproachedwiththemostoppositeopinionsandadvice,andthatbyreligiousmen,whoareequallycertainthattheyrepresent
theDivinewill.IhopeitwillnotbeirreverentformetosaythatifitisprobablethatGodwouldrevealHiswilltoothers,onapointso
connectedwithmyduty,itmightbesupposedthatHewouldrevealitdirectlytome...Thesearenot,however,thedaysof
miracles....Imuststudytheplain,physicalfactsofthecase,ascertainwhatispossible,andlearnwhatappearstobewiseand
right."
Andmypersonalfavorite:
"Itisanestablishedmaximandmoralthathewhomakesanassertionwithoutknowingwhetheritistrueorfalseisguiltyof
falsehood,andtheaccidentaltruthoftheassertiondoesnotjustifyorexcusehim."
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[] CobraCommanderVII undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ManypeoplebelieveThomasJeffersonwasanatheist,andthatmanyofthefoundingfathersweredeists
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[] theappendixofchrist2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnumberofAtheistshavebeenpresident,mostofthemnotcloseted.Beinganatheistwasnotaliabilityuntilthe1930's.
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[] ChimpusMacoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icertainlyagreethatwe'vehadatheistpresidents,butwhydopeoplesuspectObama?
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[] jargoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfI'mnotmistaken,alotoftheFoundingFatherswereDeist,whichwasbasicallytheatheismofitstime
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[] TheChicanoChikage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettymuch.
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[] pabodie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybeheiswhathesaysheis,andmaybethelabelsweuseforfaithsaredivisiveandoutmodedanyway.
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[] Jolivegarden undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThomasJeffersonwaslikelyatheistalthoughheclaimshewasadeist.
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ThiswholecommentchainbecameahopefulatheistCirclejerk...
Goodforyouguys.
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[] BearyPotter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jeffersonwasawellknownagnostic.AbigadmirerofJesusasasocialteacherbutnotabelieverinaChristiangod.
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Hewasawellknowndeist.Notagnostic.Deismwastheatheismofthattime.Wherepeoplestartedrejectingsuperstition
(enlightenmentera)butstillcouldn'tfathomtheideaofacreatorlessuniverse.
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[] Megazor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysuresomeofthefoundingfathersweresecretatheiststoo.
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YourbestbetswereThomasPaineandBenFranklin(evenifhebelievedinagod,hefuckinghatedChristianity).Washington
wasbasicallyanatheist,inthathebelievednaturewasgod.
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[] nfjones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkJeffersontriedtohardtohideit.
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Thisissoinsanetome.Iwouldloveanonreligiousleader,feelsliketheywouldmakelessbiasedchoices(notsayingother
religionscan't)butitwouldberefreshingandIthinkagoodfootforwardforAmerica.Ofcourseitwillbeawhilebeforethemajority
oftheUSwouldelectanopenatheisttobepresident.Excusebeinghowcantheyhavemoralsoftheydon'tbelieveinGod?
Maybeoneday...
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[] Shadeun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillClintonforone
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IdkhewasfromArkansas
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Ithinkthemajorityofpoliticiansactuallyareathiest,oratleastverynonreligious,buttheyknowtheyhavetoplaythegameifthey
wantvotes.
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wantvotes
orascapegoatforquicklyexplainingwhytheystuckwithaparticularpoliticalchoiceregardlessofevidence(orpublicopinion)
tothecontrary
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[] ArTiyme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowaboutmajority,butI'msuretherearemorethanwe'lleverfindoutabout.
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Nowaythemajorityis.Ifthemajorityofyoungpeoplearenotyetatheists,thantheoldguysincongressarenot.
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Ireckonit'sprobablyaboutthesamepercentageasthepopulation.Asitstands,probablyabout12%isare
agnostic/atheists/notpracticing.ThepeopleaboveIthinkaretryingtotreatpoliticiansdifferentlyfromthe
populationanditmightbe,butnottoamajorextent.
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[] sevenswansdead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatpercentisactuallyupto[23%]asof2014,andgrowing.Notthemajoritynow,butquitepossiblyinthe
notsodistantfuture.(http://www.pewresearch.org/facttank/2015/11/11/religiousnonesarenotonly
growingtheyrebecomingmoresecular/)
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[] bridgerdabridge1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ManyofJefferson'swritingspointtowardshimbeingthefirstAtheistPresident.
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YeahfromwhatI'vereadJeffersonreferredtoGodintheDeclarationasmeaningthe"wholly"unknownnotthe"holy"unkown
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[] Speedy26xc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HavingreadMeechum'sbiographyifJeffersonandhavingstudiedhimmyfirstfewyearsofcollegeIwanttosaythat
Jeffersondidbelieveingod.Thegodhebelievedinwasn'taclassicChristiangobutasortofwatchmaker.Thisistheconcept
ofdeismandthiswasthereasoningbehindthe"JeffersonBible"wheretherearenomiraclesorsupernaturalfeats.
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[] bookelly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JeffersonfoundedtheUnitarianChurchbecausehewantedaplacewhereatheists(aswellasanyotherreligion)wouldbe
welcometostudytheology.
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[] UranusIsBestAnus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasundertheimpressionthatwhileJeffersonrejectedthedivinityofJesusandmiracles,hestillbelievedinacreatorand
afterlife.
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Accordingtomyhighschoolhistoryclass,mostofthefoundingfathersweredeists.
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Deismwasthethingbackthen,so,itwaslikely.Theybelievedinagod,buttheyweren'tparticularlyfansofthe
CatholicchurchoftheBible.
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[] GangsterJawa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahthat'smostlyundeniable.Jeffersonforsure,IthinkprobablylikelyalsoWashingtonandAdams,right?Can't
sayforsure,don'treallyrememberwhenitcomestoalltherestofthem.
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[] MountainKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hamiltonwasprettymuchnonreligiousformostofhislife,andcertainlyforallofhistimeinpolitics.Hewas
onlyapracticingChristianwhenhewasyoung(beforehecametoAmerica)andlaterinlife,afterthedeath
ofhiseldestson.
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[] dmowyd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WashingtonwasanonpracticingAnglican/EpiscopalianhoweverJohnAdamswasaragingdeist
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Exactlythis.Washingtonwasfamousfornottakingcommunion,thoughgoingtochurch.He'dalways
leavebeforethesacrament.
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[] OneX32 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dsayJeffersonwouldbetheleadingcandidateforthefirstatheist/agnosticcandidate.
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IthinkthishasbeengoingonsinceatleastCaesar.
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[] Pupikal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'moftheopinionthathewascertainlynotaChristianinthesenseofbelievinginthedivinityofChrist,buthedidbelieveina
primemover/architectoftheuniverse.
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HewasactuallyprettyChristian,buthewasn'tlikeanyotherkindofChristian:
Myviewsof[theChristianreligion]aretheresultofalifeofinquiryandreflection,andverydifferentfromthatanti
Christiansystemimputedtomebythosewhoknownothingofmyopinions.TothecorruptionsofChristianityIam,
indeed,opposedbutnottothegenuinepreceptsofJesushimself.IamaChristian,intheonlysenseinwhichhe
wishedanyonetobesincerelyattachedtohisdoctrinesinpreferencetoallothersTJtoBenjaminRush(1803)
That,I'dsay,establisheshisChristiancredentials,buthere'stheonethatIthinkshowsthathe'snotlikeanyotherkind
ofChristian:
IholdthepreceptsofJesus,asdeliveredbyHimself,tobethemostpure,benevolent,andsublimewhichhave
everbeenpreachedtoman.Iadheretotheprinciplesofthefirstage,andconsiderallsubsequentinnovationsas
corruptionsofHisreligion,havingnofoundationinwhatcamefromHimIfthefreedomofreligionguaranteedto
uscaneverrisetruthwillprevailoverfanaticism,andthegenuinedoctrinesofJesus,solongpervertedbyHis
pseudopriests,willagainberestoredtotheiroriginalpurity.Thisreformationwilladvancewiththeother
improvementsofthehumanmind,buttoolateformetowitnessitT.J.toJaredSparks(1820)
So,inshort,ThomasJeffersonwasverymuchaChristian,buthewantednothingtodowithorganizedChristianityinhis
day.
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Interesting,thankyou!Morespecifically,though,ifyoudefineaChristianasonewhoacceptsJesusChristashis
personalsavior,wasJeffersonaChristian?InthecontextIposted,itseemshewasnot,notwithstandingwhathis
definitionwouldhavebeen.
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TheindicationseemstobethathewasChristian,operatingunderthatdefinition.Ithinkpeopletendto
misinterprethiscriticismsoforganizedChristianity(for,ashesawit,corruptingthesimpletruthsofChrist's
teachings)asevidenceofatheistic/agnostictendencies.
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Isee,thanks!Irecallreadingthathe"doubted"thedivinityofChrist.Isthereanytruthtothat?
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[] graffiti_bridge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Deist
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[] fatpplarentppl 13points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sobasicallyyou'rethetumblrwhiteguiltversionofmyauntwhothinksObamaisasecretmuslim,that'scharming
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Ohman,IwishIhadatrustfund.Ican'tevenmakeitintocollegeatallatm,andImjobless.Imtryingtoenlistbutmymedicalhistory
isgivingmeproblems.
AndIdon'teventhinkhimbeingasecretmuslimisabadthing,andalsoitwouldbehischoicetokeepthatinfoprivate.Ipersonally
thinkinthisdayandageacanidatecanbeanyreligiontheywantandstillhaveachance.
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[] Gjellybean 31points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItmakessensethathewasatleastMuslimasachild.
FromaninterviewwithEdwardKlein,usingaquotefromaninterviewthathehadwithObama'spastorJeremiahWright:
CP:ReadersofTheChristianPostarecuriousaboutthereligiousbackgroundofourelectedleaders.Howwouldyoudescribethe
Obamas'faith?
Klein:InmythreehourinterviewwithRev.JeremiahWrightinNovemberof2011,hesaidBarackObamaknewagreatdealabout
Islam,wassteepedinIslamandunderstoodIslamfromhischildhood.But,infact,heknewlittleofChristianityandthatWright
taughtObamahowtoacceptJesuswithoutdenouncinghisfamilyandfriendsintheMuslimcommunity.ButwhenIaskedWrightif
heconvertedObamatoChristianity,hesaid"Idon'tthinkso."
Readmoreathttp://www.christianpost.com/news/interviewedwardkleinontheamateurobamasfaith
75791/#OwuWfTAgZ2mQi9Ae.99
Here'sthebooktheywerepromoting,goodread:http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/theamateuredwardklein/1105869861
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[] dexmonic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,it'snotliketheChristianpostwouldeverjustgooutandlie,especiallyaboutObamabeingaMuslim.Topnotchjournalism
youhavethere,suchasolidfoundationfromwhichtobaseyourbeliefsupon.
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[] Crassusinyourasses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheChristianPost'seditorisRichardLandwhoisanrenownedextremerightwingEvangelicChristianwhoispartoftheSouthern
Baptistleadership.Theyareanextremelybiasedsourcewhosecredibilityisquestionableinthismatteratbest.
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[] Lint007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Um,no.
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EdwardKleinisahack.Notevenconservativestakehimseriously.Hejustmakesthingsup.Thatbookyoubringuphasno
footnotesandcitesvarious"unnamedsource".ThisisthesameguywhoclaimedthatChelseaClintonwasconceivedanactof
maritalrapecitinganunnamedsource.
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EdwardKleinhaswrittenalotofbooksabouttheKennedys.PresentsasfactthatJackieKennedylosthervirginityinan
elevatorinParis.Mentionstheywerealonesonotlikeanyoneelsecouldhaveseenit.He'sjustatotalhack
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[] PostsNDPStuff 1181points
IprefertobelievethatObamaisasecretatheist.(hattip:BillMaher)
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Thatorasecretagnosticisprettymuchmyguess.
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[] IPAs_and_rain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisiswhatIthink.IbetthathejustpickedJeremiahWright'schurchsinceitwasprominentandinhisareaofChicago.He
probablylegitimatelyhadnoideaaboutallthatGodDamnAmericastuff
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[] TheLoudThoughts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hecouldbeboth!Muslimasachildatheistasanadult.Lotsofpeoplechangetheirperceptions.
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[] GuiltySparklez0343 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itseemspossible,hesaidhismotherdidn'traisehimwithanyparticularreligionandhe"foundgod"aroundthetimehewasgetting
intopolitics.
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StatisticallyIwouldn'tbesurprisedifmultipleofourpresidentshaveliedabouttheirtruebeliefsbecausetheyfeareditwouldmake
themunelectable.Thesamethinggoesforsexuality.
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[] curiousiah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysureBernieSandersisanatheist.He'sculturallyJewish,yes,butonJimmyKimmelLive,hewasaskedabouthisbeliefin
God.
https://youtu.be/Q1g1j8yqqE?t=1m38s
ListenverycloselyafterJimmyKimmelasks"DoyoubelieveinGod..."butbeforehefinishesaskingthequestion,Bernieletsouta
quiet"No."
Atleast,that'swhatIthinkIhear.Opentootherpeople'sinput.It'sveryquiet.
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[] Antivenom13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyoumeanfedoratip.
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[] GypsyMonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I100%believethis.Ithinkheiswaytoosmartandhighlyeducatedtobereligious.
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[] jahss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamprettysurehe'sanatheistaswell.
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[] JDDrummer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewayhetalksdowntopeoplewouldtotallyfitinwiththeatheistcirclejerkershere.
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[] slapdashbr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AfterhearinghisspeechaboutGrace,aftertheCharlestonshooting,I'mmoreconvincedthaneverthathe'sgenuinelyChristian.A
nonchristiansimplycannothavewrittenthatspeech,andheisthemainauthorofhisownspeeches,especiallytheimportantones.
...also/u/BlatantConservativeknowsthathisfatherwasaMuslimKenyan,right?Hewasawelleducatedeconomistwhoworkedfor
thekenyangovernment.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.
PresidentObamawasnamedafterhisfather.
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Obama'sfatherwasanatheist,no?
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Hisfatherwasprobablyatheistasanadult.Obamawasraisedbyhisatheistmotherandclaimstohavefound
ChristianityasanadultinChicago.HehasawelldevelopedsenseofwhatitmeanstobeaChristian.
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Hismotherisn'tanatheist,Idon'tthink.AndlikeIsaidIdon'tknowmanyChristianswhowouldmockbiblical
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Hedefinitelyisn'ttoouptightofachristianifheisone,whichpersonally,Ithinkheis.
Ican'tpossiblythinkheisanythinglikeapracticingmuslimthough,notwithhimeatingporkanddrinking.
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Idon'tthinkhe'sMuslimeither.Idon'tknowalotaboutMuslimsbutI'msurethere'splentywhoeatporkand
consumeralcohol,right?Christianswearmixedfabricsdon'tthey?
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True,buttherulesaboutdrinkingandeatingporkaretakenalotmoreseriouslyinIslamthantheruleabout
mixedfabric.
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NobodyeverseemstomentionthatgamblingisactuallythethingmodernMuslimscan'tseemtofind
awaytojustify.WhenitcomestoalcoholsomeofthemoreliberalMuslimshavejustifieditbysaying
thatthepassagescanbeinterpretedas"drinkingtoexcess".LessMuslimsjustifytheconsumptionof
porkthantheydoalcohol,buttheonesthatdoreasonthatitwasinitiallywrittenwhentherewasno
waytopreservemeatsproperly,andinahotdesertclimate,porkspoilsmorequicklythanalmostany
otherwidelyconsumedmeat.Nowthatwehaveawaytopreserveitproperly,theyfeeltheruleno
longerapplies.
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[] 1234yawaworht undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EspeciallysincethemixedfabricstuffisOT
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[] AnticScarab3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestly,Iwouldn'tbesurprisedtofindoutthatObamaisthe10thatheistpresidentoftheUS.IfIwererunningforpresident,I'd
pretendtobeaChristiantoo.
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[] I_POTATO_PEOPLE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obamaalmostcertainlyis.BillClintonseemslikelytoo.AbrahamLincolnwas,accordingtoclosefriends.AndAndrew
Johnsonalmostcertainlywas.
Beyondthat,there'snotmuchevidence.Definitelynot1020.
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[] jerkmanj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfJacksonbelievedinGod,thanhewasprobablyonhiswaytokillGodwhenhedied.Jacksonwasanangryold
bastard.
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[] 87stangmeister undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SourceontheLincolnbit?That'sprettyawesomeifit'strue
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IliketogotoSpringfieldILfortheLincolntour.Youcangoinhishouse.Hislampshadeshaveatheistic
undertonesforsure.Imeanbeige?Comeonabe.
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[] I_POTATO_PEOPLE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.pewresearch.org/facttank/2014/05/29/americansaresomewhatmoreopentotheideaofanatheist
president/
Whilenoneofthe43menwhohaveservedasU.S.presidenthaseverclaimedtobeanatheist,two(Thomas
JeffersonandAbrahamLincoln)hadnoformalreligiousaffiliation.
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[] SamusBaratheon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Ithinkwe'vehadanumberoftheminoffice
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[] aboycandream undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fedoratipyoumean?
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[] Joe_Mentat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oragnostic.
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[] _EX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GnosticismStanceonknowledgeofagodTheismStanceonbeliefinagod.
Ifyouareanatheist,youaremorethanlikelyanagnosticatheist,justasageneralruleofthumb.
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[] Joe_Mentat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notnecessarilythough.Atheismistherejectionofbelieforexistencesofdeitieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
whileagnosticismisthestateofneitherbelievingnordisbelieving(orthenotionthatitisimpossibletoproveordisprove
god).Thosearetwoverydifferentbeliefsystemdespitethefactthattheyaregenerallylumptogether.Atheism=firm
beliefinnogod,Agnosticism=theadmittancethatthemetaphysicalisunknowable.TLDR:Agnosticismisthemiddle
ground,trueatheismisanextremejustlikereligion(religionsstategodDOESexist,atheismstategodDOESN'Texist,
Agnosticismisthebeliefthatyouwillneverknowifgodexistsornotandthat'sjustthewaytheuniverseis).
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[] _EX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atheism=firmbeliefinnogod
Absolutelynot.
Mostinclusively,atheismistheabsenceofbeliefthatanydeitiesexist
(yoursourceabove).
TheismisaclaimofbeliefAtheismisalackofsuchaclaimofbelief
GnosticismisaclaimtoknowledgeAgnosticismisalackofsuchaclaimtoknowledge
Youcanbeaagnostictheist(believeingodbutnotclaimknowledgethatgodexists)
Youcanbeagnosticatheist(donotbelieveingodandclaimknowledgethathedoesn'texist)
HereisaDiagramhttp://i.imgur.com/7rqnm.gif
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[] Caveed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orboth.
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[] roger_alien undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'masecretatheist.
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[] BootsyBootsyBoom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybeyou'reObama!
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YeahIimaginethatsequallylikely
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Ifirmlybelievereligioniswindowdressingfornearlyallpoliticians.
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[] punk___as undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IimagineObamaasatheistismorelikelythanhimbeingaMuslim.HedoeshowevercallhimselfaChristian,andthatself
identificationisallittakestobeaChristian,there'snotestofGodworthiness,it'sjustaselfappliedlabel.
CynicallyIimaginethatmostoftheConservativepoliticiansthumpingtheirBiblicalcredentialsdon'tbelieveawordofthat
nonsensebutknowitwillgetthemvotes.
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Consideringheseemstohaveanactualpersonality,yeaIthinkthatistrue.
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[] KidCasey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkmanypoliticiansdon'tgiveashitaboutreligion.Whetherornottheyareatheistisupforgrabs,butbeingatoptier
politiciangoesagainstsomanytenetsinsomanydifferentreligionsit'snuts.Religionisusedtoappealtothevastmajorityof
voterswhoarereligious.
IfyoureallylistentopoliticianswhentheyspeakaboutGoditisalmostlikeafarce.They'lloftensaythingsakintoGod
revealingthewayforthem.YouknowwhatGodwouldsayaboutforeignpolicy?Gohelpthosepoorpeopleandstopkilling
eachother.
Ifyou'redreamistobePOTUSthenreligionshouldbelargelyirrelevant.Anyonewhotrulystrivesforthepositionwill
understandthatatsomepointyouwillhavetogivetheordertohavepeoplekilled,sacrificeyourowncitizens,andlikely
causeinnocentdeathsalongtheway.Unlessyou'reahardcoreextremistprettymuchanyreligionisgoingtotellyounottodo
this.
Also,it'sapositionofpower.Idon'tthinkmanypeoplewillarguewithmewhenIsayalotofpoliticiansyearnforgreater
powerforwhateverreason.Itisn'tanintrinsicallybadthingifyouhavegoodintentions,butit'sprettyagainstmostreligions
thataskhumilityoftheirfollowers.
IMOopinionmost(good)politiciansarejusttryingtogetintopositionsofpowertoimplementtheirplansforthegreatergood.
Theyrealizetheyhavetosacrificelives,lie,andbreaklawstogettheirandtrytodotheirpart.Ofcoursetherearecorrupt
politicians,therearecorruptpeopleineveryjob.Butmost(onceagain,good)politiciansrealizetheyneedtolieaboutreligion
andotherthingstogainsupportandgettotheirpositioninordertogettheballrollingandchangethings.
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What'sinterestingtomeistheamountofUnitarianUniversaliststhatwerepresidentsbackintheday.Thechurchmost
knownfornotknowing.Atheists,believers,areallwelcome.
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[] hitbyacar1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwouldnotbesurprisedtofindoutTedCruzisfakinghisreligiouszealforpoliticalexpediency...
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[] Lord_Velvet_Ant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IguessIwouldn'tbesurprisedeitherway.Icertainlyhopethatheisfakingit,butpeoplelikehimreallydoexist
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You'resuggestingthathe'ssmartenoughtodothat?
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YoucanaccuseTedCruzofmanythings,butalackofintelligenceisnotoneofthem.
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Anyonewhoisaclimatechangedenierandcallsitpseudosciencethenopenlycomparessamesex
marriagetothegovernmentforcingvariousclergytomarryopposingfaithswhilecelebrating
endorsementsfrompeoplewhoencouragekillingabortionprovidersisanunmitigatedbuffooninmy
book.
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Iseriouslydoubthebelieveshalfthethingshesays.IfindCruzlesstrustworthythanClinton.
He'sHarvardeducated,clerkedfortheChiefJusticeoftheSupremeCourt,andthenbecame
SolicitorGeneralofTexasarguingcasesbeforetheSupremeCourt.Noneoftheseviews
poppedupuntilheranforSenate.
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loadmorecomments
...Youhaven'tseenhisbatshitdad,then?RafaelSr?
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[] ParlorSoldier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IambynomeanssayingthatJewishpeoplehavesomekindofpoliticaladvantage,butitmustbeareliefforatheist
politicianswhocanpointtotheirculturalheritageandjustsay"I'mJewish."They'renotlying,andtheydon'thaveto
answeranysubstantivequestionsabouttheirreligion.
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Iliketheway(fake)SenatorArnoldVinnickansweredthequestionintheshowTheWestWing.Hesaid:
"Idon'tseehowwecanhaveaseparationofchurchandstateinthisgovernmentifyouhavetopassa
religioustesttogetinthisgovernment.AndIwanttowarneveryoneinthepressandallthevotersoutthere,if
youdemandexpressionsofreligiousfaithfrompoliticians,youarejustbeggingtobeliedto.Theywon'talllie
toyoubutalotofthemwill.Anditwillbetheeasiestlietheyeverhadtotelltogetyourvotes.So,everyday
untiltheendofthiscampaign,I'llansweranyquestionanyonehasongovernment,Butifyouhaveaquestion
onreligion,pleasegotochurch."
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[] hankjmoody undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SenatorVinnickwasaRepublicanIwould'vetakenoveramajorityofDemocrats.Reallywishthey'dlethim
win.
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Thatmakessense.Imean,Hillaryisn'tabouttocallBernieSandersafakeJew.
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Religiouspeopledon'tadheretotheirownprinciples.Intheoryyou'renotsupposedtokill,beadulterous,stealbutthat
shitkeepshappening.Infactpoorerandcrimefilledregionstendtobemorereligiousbecausethere'smoredemand.
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[] rdaman2 3868points
YuriGagarinwasn'tthefirstmaninspace,ratherhewasthefirstmantogotospaceandcomebackalive.Inthesepreliminarystages
ofthespaceraceitmadenosensefortheUSSRtoadmitthattheyhadsentamanintospacethatperished.Thisproverbial
exaggerationofthetruthissimilarinlogictotheargumentsagainsttheauthenticityofthemoonlandings,althoughthe"firstmanin
space"issueismuchmorebelievable.
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[] MagicSPA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldn'tbetheonlyshenaniganstheypulled.AccordingtotheagreementinplaceatthetimebetweentheUSandtheSU,Gagarin's
tripdidn'tcountasthefirstmaninorbit.Why?
Becausehedidn'treturntotheEarth'ssurfaceinthecraftheleftin,whichwasthestandardthathadbeenagreedon.
ItishardertoengineeracraftthatwillreturntoEarthandsurvivethelanding,whichiswhattheAmericansmade.Gagarin,however,
abandonedhiscraftatabout25,000andparachuteddowntherestoftheway.Thisfouldidn'tcomeoutuntildecadesafterthefact,
whenGagarinwasalreadyinallthehistorybooks.
IfIrecallright,thefirstguytoreachspaceandreturntoEarthinthesamecraftheleftinwasn'tYuriGagarinatall,butAlanShepard.
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I'dbelievethis.USSRWasnotgoodatscience
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[] whoshereforthemoney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsIrecallthereweresomecosmonautserasedfromhistoryandit'sbelievedtheyperishedinspaceandweredisavowedbytheussrto
protectpublicimage.
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[] postpast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthattheUSwenttothemoonANDthatthemoonlandingswerefake.Ithinkthattheradiationinspacewastoomuchtogetgood
enoughphotosandthatheastronautswhovisitedthemoonwouldhavebeenexposedtoenoughradiationthattheywouldnolonger
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havebeengoodspokespersonsfortheUS(diedtoquickandshowedsignsofradiationpoisoning.)
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[] Misanthropic_Cynic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isweartheexactthreesequenceofanswers(yoursbeingthelast)Ireadonherelikeamonthago.
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[] JT_5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherewasanepisodeofDarkMattersontheScienceChannelabouttheseguyswhowereexperimentingwithradiosinEuropeand
couldheardistresssignalsfromRussianCosmonautsthatweretrappedinspace.Itwasreallycreepy,Icouldonlyimaginebeing
trappedupthere.
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[] RAT25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohthisisobvious.ButI'dgoalittlefurtherbysayingtheUSdidthesame.Howeverwedon'tknowaboutitbecausetheUSwonthe
ColdWar,theUSSRvanishedandcouldn'tusethatkindofinfoaspropagandaagainsttheUSliketheUSdidwiththeUSSR
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[] Anvillain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveaYuriGagarinTshirtsoIdon'tputmuchstockinthistheory.
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[] zeropi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didnttheyhavearecordingofthefirstmaninspacedyingburnedduringreentry?Heknewhewoulddie,buthewentanywayso
somebodyelsewouldnt?
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[] ApocaRUFF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dunnoifthiswasahoax,andIdon'tfeellikegooglingitforyou,butI'veseenrecordingsthattwobrothers(can'trememberfromwhich
country.ItalyormaybesomewhereclosertoRussia?)foundabroadcastinginRussian.Theyrecordeditandyoucanfindthe
recordingsonline.Anyways,intherecordingitsoundslikethepersonisindistressandthere'ssometranslationsoutthere.It'sbelieved
that,ifitwasn'tjustahoax,thesearethecriesforhelpfromRussianastronautswhodidn'tmakeitback.
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[] metarinka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
notahoaxbutitwaslaterconfirmedthatnoneofthemlandedwiththespacecrafttheyallparachutedfrom10,000feetwhich
technicallywentagainsttherulesoftheIOCinthattheydidn'tleaveandlandwiththecraftandthustechnicallydidn'tgettherecordfor
beingfirstmannedspaceflight.
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[] Aardvark_Man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait,that'saconspiracy?
Ithoughtthatwasknown.
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Occam'sRazor.
Common.Thatsatoughsecrettokeep.
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[] RStiltskins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IactuallythinkthatthenazismayofputamaninspacebeforeUSSRdid.TheworktheyhadonthoseV2rocketswaswayaheadof
theirtime
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[] innexum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasnot,itsnotatheoryit'safact.Source:mygrandfatheractuallyvisitedthetombofthefirstcosmonautwhilehewasworkingasa
driverforoneofthetopmedicalscientistinUSSRatthetime.Henevertoldanyoneatthetime,toldusthestoryyearslaterafter
collapseoftheSovietUnion.Icouldaskhimthenamesandexactplaces.
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[] jackson6644 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Actually,hetechnicallywasn'tthefirstoneinspacetherulesregardingrecordholdingisthatyouneedtotakeoffandlandinthe
vehicletosettherecord.GagarinleaptoutofthevesselandparachutedoutbecausetheSovietsweren'tquiteabletobuildthecapsule
tolandatasurvivablerate.Theyliedandsaidthatthecapsulelandedandhegotout.
Stillsuperbadasswhathedid,buttechnicallyeventhe"cover"ofthisconspiracyhasastolenbase.
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[] MiningsMyGame undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthatifthatwastrue,itwouldhavecomeoutwithalloftheothersovietspacesecrets,whichincludethatGaraginhimselfalmost
diedandthatacosmonautbeforehim,initiallythefavoriteforafirstflight,diedinatrainingaccident.
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[] lol_lol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'saprettyawesomesongaboutthat:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLGs2H3gDJw
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Quiteright,theBosswasthefirstperson(andwoman)inspace.Duringherjourney,sherealisedthefutilityofwarandthathumanity
wasactuallyawhole.
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[] jcy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
someoneneedstopostaWPtopicwherethefirstguyinspace,presumeddeadinspace,eventuallycomesbackwithanalienwarship
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[] uber_kerbonaut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GivenmyexperienceinKSP,Ican'tseeithappeninganyotherway.
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[] CptFizz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Boththerussianandtheamericanachievementswerefishy.I'mnotsayingthattheydidn'tgo,butthefootagewasveryprobabylshot
onearthortemperedwith.Thiswellmadevideoshowssomanythingsthatpointinthatdirection.
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[] Jed118 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethat100%LookathowshitRussiantechwas(stillis)AnyoneremembertheRussianConcordskiattheParisairshow?
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[] Batyrsik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Russianspaceshipsarequiteliterallythemostreliableonesaround,you'redumbandshouldfeelbad.
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Thisisn'taconspiracy.It'sactuallytrue,documentationonatleast10failedUSSRmissionsbeforeYurihavebeenfound,threeof
whichweremanned.TheUSSRsimplyburredallfailurestolookstronger.
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It'scategoricallyfalseconspiracynonsense.
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[] Riresurmort undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therewasunexplainedradiointerceptionsthatweresupposedtobethatoffdyingcosmonauts
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[] JooJoona undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Woah.That'sdark.
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[] getintheVandell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
..SnaaaakeEaaaateeer..
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[] b3n5p34km4n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatathrill...
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[] RADEON360 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBosswassuchanawesomecharacter.
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[] cholula_is_good undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswasinthemiddleofthecoldwar.Anymisstepsbytheussrspaceormilitaryprogramswouldhavebeenwidelyadvertisedbythe
us.Therewereteamsofbrilliantpeopletryingtouncoverthingslikethisatthetime.Whatpostcoldwarinformationhasleadyouto
believetherewerefailedmannedmissionsbeforeYuri?
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[] I_Photoshop_Movies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Funfact.MysistersfiancsdadknewYuriGagarin.Theyusedtodrinktogether.HesaidthatGagarinwasadrunk.Hisdeathwasn't
reallyatragicaccident,insteadhewenttoflytheplanedrunkandcrashed.
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[] BigglesNZ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'ttheysenddogsandmonkeysoutfirst,tomakesureitwassurvivable?
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Yes,andthefirstdogtotravelinspace(laikaIbelieve)diedonreentry,asthecapsulewasneverdesignedtoreenterthe
atmosphere.
Notrelated,butimothewhole"sovietscoveredupthefirstmantogotoorbitbecausehedied"isasBSasthe"fakedapollo
landings"
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[] armorandsword undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plausible,thecraftthatcarriedGagarincouldn'tactuallylandonearthafterreentry,andtheplanallalongwasthathehadtoeject.It
seemseasilypossiblethatpreviousevencruderattemptshadfailed.Againthough,evidenceneeded.
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[] damnatio_memoriae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] rspeed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamsogoddamnsickofthisconspiracytheory.
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[] CockMyBratwurst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whereisreturningtothesurfaceinthesamecraftconsideredastipulationforanactualspaceflight?
IfyouhavebeeninacraftoutsideoftheEarth'satmosphere,youhavetakenpartinaspaceflight.
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[] Ralath0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sasillylittlerule.Therussiansactuallyhidthattheirpilotshadtobailfromthevostokcapsulesbecauseofit.Theywhere
afraidtheUSAwoulduseitasalittleloopholetoclaimthattheyhadthefirstmaninspaceandinorbit.
It'sridiculous.Thehardpartinrocketryistogetamanuptoorbitalvelocityandthenbackdowntoarelativelyslowspeed
withoutkillinghim.Themethodoflandingshouldn'tmatter.
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TheFAI.It'salogicalrequirement,too.Wouldyouconsideranaircraftflightsuccessfulifyouhadtobailoutoftheaircraft
becauseitdidn'thavelandinggear?
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[] semyorka7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfLindberghadparachutedintoFranceratherthanlandingsuccessfully,I'dstillsayhewasthefirstpersontoflyacross
theAtlanticinaheavierthanaircraft.
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Iwouldn't,norwouldanyrecordkeepingorganization.Parachutingisn'tconsideredasafelanding.
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[] Banzai51 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecountertothisisthesamecountertothe"USfakedtheMoonlandings."TheUSwouldhavemadeabigdealofitinthe
internationalpress.We'dKNOWiftheysentsomethingupjustliketheUSSRwouldknowifwedidn'treallysendarockettotheMoon
andfakedalanding.
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[] postpast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WewouldknowtheyweresendingsomethingupbuthowcouldweKNOWtheyweresendingSOMEONEup.Duringthattimethere
werelargerocketlaunchattemptsalmostweeklyandverylittlesurveillancetechnology(bytoday'sstandards).BoththeUSand
RussiahadmadeunmannedlandingsonthemoondozensoftimesbeforeApollo11onsimilarsizedvehicles.Theonlywaythey
wouldhaveknownwouldbeiftheywereabletotrackthereturntripfromthemoontoearthsorbitafeatthatwouldhavebeenvery
difficultandstillonlyprovedareturntripandnotnecessarilyamannedone.
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Okay,thisthingkeepspoppingupsoIfeellikeIshouldcorrectit.
TherewasapressreleaseabouttheflightafterlaunchbutbeforeGagarinsafelyreturned.
Atjustafter0700BST,MajorYuriAlexeyevichGagarinwasfiredfromtheBaikonurlaunchpadinKazakhstan,SovietcentralAsia,
inthespacecraftVostok(East).
MajorGagarinorbitedtheEarthfor108minutestravellingatmorethan17,000milesperhour(27,000kilometresperhour)before
landingatanundisclosedlocation.
TheSovietnewsagency,Tass,madethefirstofficialannouncementofMajorGagarin'sflightatjustbefore0800BST.
Gagarinwasinorbitforaboutanhourandahalfandthepressreleasewassentoutanhourafterhislaunch.ItappearstheSoviets
didn'tplantocoverupadisastrousreentrysincetheydidn'tdelaytheinitialpressrelease.
Inaddition,otherdisastersintheSovietspaceprogramwerecoveredupatthetimebuthavesincebecomepublicknowledge,likethe
Nedelindisaster.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/12/newsid_2477000/2477715.stm
http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/spaceflight/twentymythsaboutgagarinsspaceflight
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Idon'tunderstandhowthisissupposedtodisprovethathewasthefirsttocomebackaliveifanythingitsuggeststhattheyknew
theinformationthattheyweresendingamanintospacehadbeenleakedandwerepreparingtoreportthathehadarrivedsafely
backhomeregardlessofwhetherthatwastrueornot(sincethatiswhatactuallyhappened,accordingtoyou).
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Uh,thepressreleasewasn'taleak,itwasanofficialpressreleasefromtheSovietspaceprogram.
ItshowsthattheSovietsdidn'twaituntiltheirmancamebackalivetoannouncehisflight.IfsomethinghadkilledGagarinon
reentry,theywouldhavehadtofessuptoitbecausetheworldhadbeentoldoftheflight.
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beforelandingatanundisclosedlocation.
Notthepressrelease,therumorthattheywerelaunchingamanthatwascirculatingearlierintheweek,thatwasthe
leak.Buteveninthepressrelease,circulatedbeforehelanded,itliterallysayshelandedsafely.Thissuggeststhey
werereadytolienomatterwhatI'mnotsurehowyoucouldhavemissedthat.
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Actuallytheyhadthreeannouncementsready.Oneformissionsuccessandsafereturn,onformissionsuccess,safe
returnandlandinginanothercountryandtheFUBARone.
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Theyannouncedthelaunchbeforemissionsuccessthough.TheydidhavepreparedstatementsincaseGagarin
died,buttheydidn'twaitandseewhichthey'dneed.
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Iirctheyannounceditlikehalfanhourbeforehislandingandifitwasinfactso,youcanbe99.9%sureit
wasbothsuccessandhomelandingcountryduetothewaylatestagesofdeorbitingwork.0.1%ifhis
parachutewouldmalfunctionandeventhenhetechnicallyalreadywasonEarthbythetimeshouldithave
happened.
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Reentryisincrediblydangerous.We'velosttwospaceshuttles,oneonlaunchandtheotheron
reentry.
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Haditbeenreallydangeroustherewouldhavebeenmuchhigherfailurerate.Commonfolks
seemtoexaggeratethingslikethat,althoughitindeedishardtograsphowgoingat7.5km/s
andbeingsubjectto2000Cisn'tdangerous.AndIwastalkingaboutlatestageswhenthecraft
hadstabilizedandfalls/glidesitswaytosurface.
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THANKYOU.I'vebeensayingthisforyearswheneverIhearthishorseshittheory.
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[] Kaennar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusedtoworkwithaguywhoreferredtoanyproductthatfailed/neededmoretuningasa"RRSE(rapidrussianspaceengineering)
Project"
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[] Makkedeth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisacceptabletospeculate.Butmention9/11andyouarealunatic.
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[] Flyberius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allthespeculationiswrong.Baselessspeculation,allofit.OneguyfurtherupthelistthinkstheUSgovernmentassassinatedYuri
Gagarin,anotherthinkstherearedozensofdeadastronautsinspace.
Noneofitisbasedonanyevidencewhatsoever.Justthethoughtthat"Itcouldhavehappened".Theorycraftingisgreat,itmakes
greatstories,butwithoutashredofevidencethat'sallitis.Stories.
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[] Emperor_of_Cats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalsothinktheUSsabotagedtheplanethathecrashedin.TheUSSRdidn'twanthimgoingtospaceanymoresinceitwasriskyand
hewasvaluablepropaganda.TheUSrealizedthisandtookhimout.
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Butdidthenewscoverageshowhimleavingearthaswellasleaving?Ifso,it'slikelyhe'sthesecondmantocomebackalive.They
wouldn'thavepublicizedthebeginningofthetripofthepreviousman,astheywouldn'tknowhewasgoingtomakeitback.Thenthey
wouldn'tjustshowhissuccessfulreturn,becausetheycoulddothewholethingoverwithYuriGagarinandsqueezeeverybitof
publicityoutofit,starttofinish.
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[] SonicAlligators undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiswasdecadesbeforeIwasborn,butwhenGagarinwenttospace,wasitreallynotknownaboutuntilhesuccesfullyreturned?Wad
theU.S.S.R.justlike"ohbytheway,wesentaguytospaceandhe'sbacknow".DidtheUShavenoideaitwasgoingtohappenor
whenitwashappening?WhenGagarinwaspickedupafterreturningwasnoneofthattelevised?I'mhonestlyaskingbecauseIhave
noidea,butforthistheorytobetrue,eithernooneknewhewasgoinguntilhewasalreadybackorsomehowthesovietsknew"ok,this
oneshouldwork.Letsannounceit"beforehand.
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Ithinkyou'reunderestimatingjusthowfarbacktheUSwasinthespaceraceatthatpoint.Nospysatellitestopickupalaunchlike
this,anditwouldn'tmakesensefortheUSSRtopublicizeafailure.
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Evenifitwasannouncedbeforehand,ifthisconspiracyistrue,hemightnothaveevenbeenthefirstmaninspacetoreturnalive.
Theycouldhavesentabunchofpeopleupwhodied,andthenaftertheyhadasuccessfulattemptortwoannouncedthattheywere
goingtosendamanintospace.
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[] b4b undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
USSRwashiddenbehindacompletewallforUSA.Gettinggeneralinformationwashardandinformationaboutsuchprograms
couldbeonlygottenthroughdefectors.Butbarelyanyonecouldevenleavethetown(youneededpassportstomoveoutfrom
secrettowns),nottomentionwholeUSSR.
YesUSAwasscaredshittless,especiallyafterthefirstSputnikwhichcaughtUSAwiththeirpantsdownUSSRhasnotonly
managedtosendaprobetospace(thateveryonecouldheardothebeepsoundinspace),theRussianscaughtthemoffguard.
NotonlydidtheRussiansmanagetobethefirstwithSputnik,theyalsohadthefirstmaninspace.Itisquiteapossibilitythatthey
couldalsogetamantothemoon.ThustherewasthefamousKennedyspeech
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_choose_to_go_to_the_Moonthat"started"thespaceraceinUSAaswell(technicallyUSAwas
alreadycompetingintherace,butlosing).
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WhenGagarinwaspickedupafterreturningwasnoneofthattelevised?
Totelevisesomethingatthattimeyouwouldhavetorecordsomethingonfilm,processthefilm,transportittooneTVstationand
transmititoverradio.Itshardtoexplaintothecurrentgenerationhowdisconnectedtheworldwasinthe1960s.Frequentlyword
oftendidnotgetoutaboutthesethings.ImaginethewholeworldlikeNorthKorea.
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Iwasthinkingofsomethinglikethemoonlanding.Again,Iwasn'taliveyet,butI'mprettysurethatwasn'tfilmed,physically
broughttoaTVstationandthenbroadcast,sounlesstheadvancementstobroadcastthemoonlamdingliveweremade
betweenArmstrongandGagarin(whichforallIknow,theycouldhavebeen)thenIwouldassumetheywouldhavethe
capability,shouldtheyhavechosento.FromtherepliesI'mgetting,Sovietsdidchoosenottomakeitknown,fairenough,no
problemthere.Butwhatyouaresayingaboutthemnothavingthetechseems.....unlikelytome
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IwasthinkingofsomethinglikethemoonlandingThemoonlandingwasin1969andcarriedoutbytheUSA,who
hadfarbetterelectronicstechnology.Evenso,thelinktotheTVnetworkswasthroughaTVstationcamerapointed
ataNASATVmonitor,andeventhensomebodyhadtoinverttheimageatthelastmomentbecauseitwasupside
down.
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Wellthatanswersthat!Thankyouforyourpatienceandtheinformation!IknowunderstanditmuchbetterthanI
didthismorning
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[] CaptRobau undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemainreasonwhytherewasaSpaceRace,wasbecausetheSovietswereveryclosedabouttheirspaceprogram.Theykept
massivefailuresasecretandonlypublicizedthesuccesses.TheUSontheotherhandshowedeverything,andyouevenhad
SovietspiesgoingtoAmericanlaunchestogetinformation.
ThisiswhytheAmericanspaceprogramkeptsuchanamazingrateofacceleration.TheSovietsmadeonegoodfamilyofrockets
(whichisthebasisfortherocketsthatlaunchtheirSoyuztothisday)andtheyshockedtheAmericansbydoingSputnikand
Gagarinwiththem.Withoutinformation,theyconstantlyoverestimatedthepossibilitiesandattentiongiventotheSovietspace
program.Basicallyitwentlikethis:wehavealittlebitofevidencetheSovietscanlaunchamissionaroundthemoonin196X,so
we'lltrytosenditamonthearlier.MeanwhiletheSovietswerestuckwithaterriblerocketthattheywantedtotaketothemoon,that
keptblowingup.
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Thefactthatitwasn'tannounceduntilafterGagarinhadlandedsafelyisoneofthebigreasonsIbelievetheLostCosmonauts
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Therewasn'tafreeexchangeofinformationbetweentheUSandtheSovietUnionasfarasIunderstand.TheUSgovtwas
probablyawarethruspyingbutI'mguessingwouldn'trevealthatinformationpublicly.
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Therecoverywaswitnessedbymanypeople.Helandednearavillageschool,andwasgreetingstudentswhenhisrecoveryteam
arrived.
Asforthepreannouncementofhisflight,Iwas13atthetime,andverymuchanewsjunkiewithashortwaveradio.Irememberthe
daybefore,hearinganewsbroadcastsayingtherewasa"rumor"thattheUSSRmightlaunchamanintospacethenextdayand
that'swhathappened.
Butmyrecollectioniseitherunique,orwrong.WeintheUSusedtobesoproudofboastinghowourspaceprogramwasopenfor
theworldtosee(whichwastrue)whiletheSovietsdidn'tannounceaspaceflightuntilasuccessfulconclusion(ormaybethe
westernmediasimplydidn'treportit?).
I'velookedforevidencethatmyrecollectionisaccurate,butcan'tfindany.Butdang,thatdaywhenhewentup,Iwastelling
everybodyaboutthatnewsreportIheard,becauseeverybodywassaying"theydon'tannounceflightsuntilaftersuccess".
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[] joos1986 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisissomeprettyfascinatingstuff.:)
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[] TheWiredWorld undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shortwave4lyfe
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HaveaQSL:)
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[] metarinka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itisknownthatnoneofthefirstcosmonautslandedwiththeircraft,theyallparachutedtogroundasecretthatwasheldfor
decades.
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No,itwasnotasecret.
Weallknewthatfromthebeginning,evenifwedidn'tunderstandthedetails.See,alotofpeopleintheUSwerehighly
skepticalthatthecosmonautcouldescapefromareenteringspacecraft.Peoplepoopoo'dtheideaofthat.
Whathappenedwasthatthespacecraftwouldbeginreentryinthe"normalmanner",witharetroburncausingittostart
tofallfromorbit,thenparachuteswouldbedeployedfromthespacecrafttoslowitdownintheatmosphere,andwhenit
reached2.5Kmaltitude,thecosmonautwouldbeejected.That'slessthan10,000feet,sotheylandedverynearthe
spacecraft.BothGagarinandTereshkovawerestandingbytheirspacecraftwhentheirrecoveryteamsarrived.
Itdefinitelywasnotasecret.Butitwaswidelydisbelieved.
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[] BrotherClear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theymaynothavereportedhewasgoingtolaunchuntilhehadactuallyalreadycompletedthemission?
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Youmeantheycompletedthemission,thenannouncedthattherewas"goingtobe"one?Well,interesting,butifitwas
theirplantomakeitlookliketheywerepreannouncingtheirspaceflights,itdidn'twork...(exceptioninmycase).
Butiftheycouldsendamanupandrecoverhimwithoutanybodynoticing,whycouldn'ttheyjustsaytheydid?
Hasanyonereallybeeninspace?:)
Ithinkeverybodywaswatchingtheskyevenbackthen,anorbitingvehiclewouldbenoticed.Nobodyseemstodispute
thathemadetheflight.Whichiskindastrange,consideringhowmanypeopleseriouslycontendthatnobodywenttothe
moon.
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Thenlookatitthisway:theUSSRhadalreadyhadapersonreturnalivefromspacebeforetheychoseYuriGagarintobe
theirpostercosmonaut.
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WhynotmakethepreYuricosmonauttheposterboy,andshavetimeoffofasuccessinthespacerace?
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[] ZebrasKickAss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ParticularlygiventhefactthatAlanShepardbecamethesecondmantogotospacejust23daysafterGagarin.It
wasatightrace.
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Yeah,butSheparddidn'tevendoafulllap.NeitherdidGrissom.ThethirdAmericantogoupwasthefirst
astronautactuallygointoorbit.
Andthenthere'salsothediscussionifmaybeitwasn'tChuckYeagerwhowasfirstto"gointospace",
consideringthatthealtitudewherespacebegins,isjustanarbitrarynumber,andChuckgotreally,really
highintheX15rocketplane.
ButGagarinwasdefinitelythefirsttomakeanorbit,andmyarbitraryruleisthatyougottarunalapbefore
youcanwearthegoldjockstrap.
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[] ZebrasKickAss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gagarinisknownasthefirstmantogotospace,notthefirstmantoorbit.Publicdoesn'teven
understandthedifferencesoyourarbitraryrulehasnobearing:)
AlanShepardgoingaboveKarmanlineasthefirstmanwouldwinAmericaahugemilestone.If
Russianshadthemeanstodothatearlier,theycertainlywouldn'tmisstheopportunityeither.
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Gagarinisknownasthefirstmantogotospace,notthefirstmantoorbit.
HewasthefirstmantoorbittheEarth.
Publicunderstandingdoesn'thaveanythingtodowiththis.TheKarmanlineiswhat'sarbitrary.
Shootaguyup99.9km,andhe'snot"inspace".Shootaguyupanotherfewhundredmeters,
andhe's"inspace"?Comeon,bothguysfalltoearth.Whensomethinggoesintoorbit,it'sa
wholenewgame.
Webenefittremendouslyfromallthecommunicationandobservationsatellitesinorbit.Not
fromcrossingsomearbitrarylineexactly100kmup.
AlanShepardgoingaboveKarmanlineasthefirstmanwouldwinAmericaahuge
milestone.IfRussianshadthemeanstodothatearlier,theycertainlywouldn'tmissthe
opportunityeither.
WHOA!Ican'tevenmakesenseofthat.TheSovietsputamanintoorbitbeforeShepardmade
his15minutesuborbitalflight.SayingthatislikesayingifBabeRuthcouldhavehitasingle
insteadofhittingtheballoutofthepark,hewouldhavedoneso.
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Ifeelthatifahumaniscapableoftouchingtheetherbetweenatmosphereandvacuum,thentheyget
thetitleoffirstinspace.Firstinorbitisjustanothergoalpostalittlebitfurtherdownthefield.Every
manwhohasreachedforthisloftygoaldeservespraiseandrecognition.
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[] DiabloConQueso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MostofRussiawasn'tevenawarethatGagarinwasgoingintospaceuntilhehadalreadyreturned.TheUSSRatthetimehadvery
tightlipsonspaceexplorationprogramsandlaunches.
Inotherwords,thefirstsuccessfulhumanflighttospaceandbeingsafelyreturnedtoEarthwaslargelyasurprisetoeveryone.
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[] Senor_Schnarf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justoutofcuriousity,whattypeofevidencewasit?Photos,videos,ajarof...vaccum?
Legitcurious,becauseifnobodywaswatchingyoudoitIfeellike"IwenttospacebutIalreadycameback"wouldbea
difficultclaimtosubstantiate,especiallywhentothisdaypeoplestilldoubtthecredibilityofthemoonlandingdespite
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presumablysimilarevidence
Also,Imawareinadvancethiswasprobablyastupidquestion
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There'svideothatwasrecordedofhisliftoffaswellasrecordingsofanaudio/videolinkbetweenhimandtheRussian
base.
There'salsotheactualcapsulethathereturnedtoEarthin.ThecapsulelandingontheEarth(orshortlythereafter)was
alsowitnessedbytwopeople.
Ofcourseit'seasyforanyconspiracytheoristtoscream,"Theyfakedit!"butthat'sjustacopoutfortheevidencethat,
infact,YuriGagarinwenttospaceandreturned.Likeyousay,it'ssimilartotheevidencewehaveforthemoonlanding
thoughpeoplestill(erroneously)denyittothisday.
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[] Kevesvt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'ttrue...ParentslivedinUSSRandsaidthatthelaunchandlandingwasahugedeal.
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[] EasyE103 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes.AndIthinkthiswasonpurpose.TheUSdidthesamething.I'malildrunkyrightnowcelebratingthanksgivinglate.But
I'mpositivetheUSdidthesame.Justtonotbehumiliatedbythepublic.Orbackthen,bedisgraced.
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[] thevadster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seeresponseofu/LookAtThatBodeabove.Youeithermadethisuporshouldn'tbelieveeverythingyouhear.Eitherwayit's
falseinformation.
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[] baldylox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,it'sareallyinterestingstory,forsure.IknowalotaboutitmyselfbecauseIcollect&dealinvintagewatches,witha
kindofslanttowardsvintageRussianpieces.
Theoriginallate50'searly60'sversionoftheShturmanskie(navigator)watchthatGagarinworeonhis
spaceflightgoforrelativelybigbucksthesedays.
99.9%ofthemaremodernorrelativelymodernreproductions.TheoriginaloneswereonlygiventoSovietpilots.
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[] perigrinator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nonchalant,like.
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DidtheUSdothesamethingwithAlanShepard?i.e.wasitkeptsecretuntilhissafereturn?
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[] secretcurse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anestimated45millionpeoplewatchedthelaunch.
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[] Highside79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sprettyclearthattheyintendedtoholdannouncementsuntilasuccessfulmission.Theonlyreasontokeepthatsecretat
theoutsetistoprovidetheopportunitytoquashafailure.IfGagarinhaddiedinspaceitwouldhavebeenacloselyheld
secret.
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Announcingflightplansisagreatwaytoattractattention.AndtheColdWarwasallaboutinformationandwhohad
superiorrockettechnology.Sometimesyoudon'twantyourenemytoknowyou'recapableofsomething.
StufflikemeninorbitisanicePRmove,butastronautsdyingisgenerallybadforPR.ConsideringtheSoviet'ssolution
toeverythingis"justdon'ttellanybody",it'sreallynotshocking.TheentireColdWarwasahugegameofbluffing
perfection.
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SotheyKerbalspaceprogrammedrocketsintospaceuntiltheygotitright?Soundslikemyfirst4hoursplayingthe
game.
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[] zacktheking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundslikemyfirsttwoyears.
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Yeahittookmeabout4hourstogettospacewatchingtutorialsonYouTube...ButthatpoorKerbal...I
occasionallycheckonhimonmyflightslist.He'sontointerstellarspacenow.
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[] Dennovin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundslikeallofmy1400hours.
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[] incredulous_guy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Duringthecoldwarsoyeah,itwaskeptsecretuntilafterthefact.funfact:theylockedGagarinoutoftheflightcontrolsasthey
didn'tknow'howahumanwouldreact'inaweightlessenvironment
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TheflightwasfullyautomatedsoGagarindidn'tevenhavetotouchthecontrols.Andtherewerecontrolswhy?Justso
Gagarincouldmanuallyoperatethespacecraftifsomethingwentwrong.Priorspacecraftwithdogsdidn'thavecontrols
because,well,dogscan'toperateaspacecraft.
Whytheylockedthecontrols?You'resendingapioneertotheunknownandnothingwascertain.Potentiallygoing"space
crazy"andmessingwithcontrolsinthatstatewasadeathsentenceanditwasabigconcernbeforethelaunch.Therewasan
envelopewiththeunlockingpasswordinitinthecabinsoGagarinactuallycouldtrytofixthingsifneeded.Scientists'reason
wasthatasanepersonwouldremembertheenvelopeandacrazyonewouldcontinuetobecrazy.
Nevertheless,rightbeforeheadingouttotherocketGagarinwastoldthepassword.Andasweknow,hedidn'tneedit.
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[] infrikinfix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
theylockedGagarinoutoftheflightcontrolsastheydidn'tknow'howahumanwouldreact'inaweightlessenvironment
NASAalsooriginallybuiltthecapsuleswithnomanualcontrols.Itwasn'tsomuchbecausetheydidn'tknowhowthe
astronautswouldreactbutbecausetherewassimplynoneed:theycouldn'tdoanythingthecomputercouldn'tdoandwould
doabadjobofitiftheytried.ButtheseasonedtestpilotsNASAsentupwereoffendedbythefactthattheywerebeing
treatedmuchliketheirchimppredecessorstheyinsistedoncontrolssotheywouldn'tfeellikeGuineaPigsstrappedtoa
missle.IfTomWolfeistobelievedanyway
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"Fun"fact
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[] kiwisarentfruit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,butmultiplepeopleapparentlygavehimtheunlockcodebeforeliftoff.
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[] 4Sken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IrememberafriendofYuriGagarinwassenttospaceinabadlydevelopedcapsuleandbeforelaunchingoutwroteinhiswill
thathisfuneralwouldbeopencasket.AsheandYuripredictedthecapsulewenttoshitandonthewaydownhecursedallof
russia'sspaceprogram.Yuriturnedawayfromtherussianspaceagency.Hediedshortlythereafter.
Hmm.
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Soyuz1.
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Theonlythingcorrectaboutthispostis"afriendofYuriGagarinwassenttospace."Literally.
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Condescendingafhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_KomarovNoneedtolookintoshitbeforeyouspeaklike
this.Literally.
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[] cnnrduncan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PrettysurethatwasthefirstSoyuzflight.WhichiscurrentlytheonlymannedspacecraftthatgoestotheISS.Also
causedtheonlyeverdeathsinspaceafterdetachingfromthefirsteverspacestation.
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iircthatguywentupBEFOREgagarinashedidn'twanthisfriendtogetkilled
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Yeah,Gagarinwasapparentlymadbecauseheknewhisfriendwoulddieandhewantedtogo.Shittysituation.
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[] FactualNeutronStar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,thiswasafterVostok1.Gagarinwasthebackupastronaut,andsohedidn'twanttoriskhisfriend'slife.
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[] 10ebbor10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notthatheevershouldhavehadtoriskhislife.Gagarinwasthefirstmaninspace.Hewasthebackupin
nameonly.
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ah,must'vegottenmytimelinefudged.thx
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[] DryCleaningBuffalo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptitwasn'tkeptsecret"untilafterthefact",aspointedoutby/u/LookAtThatBodebelow.TheSovietssentoutapress
releasebeforeGagarinlanded,alittleunderanhourafterthelaunch.
Source:http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/spaceflight/twentymythsaboutgagarinsspaceflight
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[] YouAreAllSluts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeymymomworksforIEEE!
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Couldn'ttheyhavehadradioconfirmationatthatpointthathehadnotperisheduponentrytospace?Imean,they
wouldhavehadnowayofknowinghewasgoingtomakeitbackdown,butiftheywereworriedhewasgoingtorunout
ofoxygenordiefromsomeotherobscureeventshortlyafterenteringspace,thatwouldhavealleviatedthosefears.
Similarly,iftheyhadsentsomeoneuppreviouslyandtheydiedduetoexposuretheycouldhavewithheldthe
announcement.
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Keepingsomeonealiveinspaceisbasicallylikekeepingsomeonealiveinasubmarine.Givethemairandkeep
themtherighttemperaturethanthey'llbefine.
Atmosphericreentryishellandatleastasdangerousaslaunch.
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Tobefair,thatdoesseemlikealegitimateconcernifyou'veneverhadsomeoneexperienceweightlessnessbeforeanddon't
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exactlyknowwhathappenstothebody.
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[] mattmwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettysuretheywouldhavegoneinaplaneanddoneasuddendroptosimulateweightlessnessinadditiontosimply
goingunderwater.
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[] dafadsfasdfasdfadf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdontsendamantodoamonkey'sjob.Heissupposedtobeapilot,notanoccupant.
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Weightlessnessisessentiallythesameasbeingunderwater,butwithlesspressure.It'snotdifficulttosimulate.
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[] lastres0rt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butwasn'tthatthewholepointofsendingdogsandmonkeysandthelikeintospacetoseeifwecoulddoitwith
somethinglessvaluablethanahumanfirst?
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[] astrogaijin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
True,butadogormonkeycan'texactlytellyouthatsomethingfeelsfunnyordoesn'tmove.Theyprobablyonly
hadmonitorsonthevitalsoftheanimalsandthatdoesn'tgivetheentirepicture.Ifyougotupthereandcouldn't
moveyourarmorfingersyourvitalswouldstilllookfinedespitesomethingbeingwrong/off.
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[] posam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noyouwouldbeinpanicmodefromnotbeingabletomove.
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[] iCameToLearnSomeCode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldguesstheywereinpanicmodefrombeingweightlessstrappedtotwotonsofpopcandoing
15,000mph.
Seriouslythough,itmighthavecausedblindnesswithoutthemonkeyfreakingout,hemighthavejust
thoughttheyturnedthelightsoff.Itmighthavecausedtheroomtospinuncontrollablyasyourinner
earfreakedout,causingthemonkeytofeeldrunkbutapersontofreakoutandtrytousethecontrols
tostabilizetherocket.Animalscantellusalot,butnoteverything.
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LOL,theyfoundtheiranswerwhenValentinaTereshkovawentup.Shecouldn'toperatethem.Tobefair,shewasnotapilot.
Shewaschosenbecauseshebelongedtoaparachuteclub,andwasasolidmemberoftheproletariat,anordinaryfactory
worker.
Shenotonlycouldnotstabilizeherspacecraft,shefellasleepwhenshewasn'tsupposedto,and(bestofall)whenshe
landed,itwasnearavillage,andwhilewaitingforherrecoverycrewtoarrive,sheletthevillagerspickoverherspacecraftfor
souvenirs.
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[] csl512 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThankgoodnessValentinaKermancanEVAandSASandshit.
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Thankthepioneers,pilgrim.
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[] Bigfluffyltail undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Awwwthatmakesitsoundlikeacutetrip.
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I'dsayhewasn'teventhefirsttocomebackalive,theyjusttesteditafewtimesbeforerevealingonetothepubliceye.
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[] nov28_account undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisistheoneconspiracytheoryItrulybelievein.Ireallydobelievethattherearedeadhumansfloatingoutinspace,testsubjects
whonevermadeitbackhome.
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[] Carlyndra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.scpwiki.net/scp1959
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[] Parcec undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theywouldhavealreadyburnedupbynow.
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[] nov28_account undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyeah.Butthey'restillOutThere.Therearehumanbodiesdriftingendlesslythroughspace.
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[] Parcec undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ehh...No..?"Burnedup"doesn'treffertothesun.Itreferstothebodiesburningupuponreentrytotheearth's
atmosphere.
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[] Imeatbag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,yeah.Butthey'restilloutthere.Humanbodiesdriftingendlesslythroughspace.
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[] TheWhoWhatWhenWhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisIbelieve100%.
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[] not_my_delorean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sevidenceoftheUSSRabandoningatleastoneastronautwhentheyrealizedtheycouldn'tgethimback,andanotherwhowas
goingtoburnuponreentry.Ithinkthereareradiotranscriptsofthelatterpleadingforhislife.Itwouldn'tsurprisemeintheleastifthere
wereunsuccessfulattemptsbeforeYuri
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[] seb_fisher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whataboutallthosestraydogstheyshotintospace?Theydefinitelykilledallthose:(.Itwouldn'tsurprisemeiftheylauncheda
couplehumansuptheretotestittoo,butkeptitsecret.TheyonlylaunchedYuriandteleviseditaftertheywerecertainitwould
work.
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There'szerogoodevidenceforanyofthat,buthey,it'sstilltherebecausehowcouldanybodybuttheUSAdoanythingright?You
betyourasstherearen'tanyconspiraciesaboutthem.
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[] XEV4NX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Abandoninganastronaut?Where'stheevidenceofthat?I'mmorbidlycurious.
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[] Princess_Cobra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThesecondguyisVladimirKomarov.Supposedlywentonthemissionknowingthespaceshipwasbotchedbecauseifhedidn'tgo
theywouldsendYuri.Soashe'shurdlingtowardstheearthhecursesandcriesatthepeoplewhoputhimontheship.Thewhole
storyisalldebatedbuthestillscreamedandshitonreentry
http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonautcrashedintoearthcryinginrage?ft=1&f=1026#
Thearticlehastherecordingandmanisitfuckinghorrible.
ThoughIdon'tagreewiththeconspiracytheorythoughtI'dfindthat
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Inallhonestythough,thestoryismostlymadeup,relyingallontheaccountofasingleexKGBofficer.Therecordingitself
originated8yearsafterfromanUSlisteningstation.
Thethingwhichkilledhimwasafailureofthemainparachutetodeploy.Beforethat,therewerequitealotoferrors,butnone
lifethreatening.
Themainchutedeploysatanaltitudeof7.5kilometer,atwhichpointthecrafthasaspeedof100m/s.Thatgiveshim75
secondstoactivatethebackupsystem,realizethatfailedaswell,thenscream67secondsofprofanity.
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YehIhaveabsolutelynoideaallIknowisthereisarecordingofamanfallingtohisdeathscreamingandcryingandits
horrible.:|
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[] yowangmang undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthatradiotransmissiontranslatestohimcursingthemforsendinghimupthereorsomethingsimilar.
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[] IAmTheTrueWalruss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhavesources?Thatsoundsincrediblyinteresting!
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SomeofthosewerethingsthathappenedafterYuriifIremembercorrectly.Imean,Idon'thavealloftheevidencesoIwouldn't
makeatruth/falseclaimaboutit,butIthinkIrememberreadingtheradiotranscriptsbutitwasafterYuri.
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[] pussyonapedestal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://youtu.be/3Z_m7onLw74
VladamirKomorov.AfterthefirstsuccessfulflightbyGagarintheyplannedtolaunchthisonewithVladonboard.Yurihimself
inspectedtheSoyuz1andfoundover200technicalerrorsontheship.HedemandedtobeputininsteadofVladbutVladrefused
tolethimonbecausehewasa"nationalhero"(beingthefirstmaninspace).ThedayofthelaunchactuallyYuristormedthearea
anddemandedtobeputinaspacesuitandsentinsteadofVladamirbutintheendthemissionwentonwithoutYuri.
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Somuchofthisiscategoricallyfalse.
YurihimselfinspectedtheSoyuz1andfoundover200technicalerrorsontheship.
Noevidenceofthiseverhappening.
HedemandedtobeputininsteadofVladbutVladrefusedtolethimonbecausehewasa"nationalhero"(beingthefirst
maninspace).
Again,noevidenceofthiseverhappening.
ThedayofthelaunchactuallyYuristormedtheareaanddemandedtobeputinaspacesuitandsentinsteadofVladamir
butintheendthemissionwentonwithoutYuri.
Thisalonesinksthewholeconspiracytheory.SoyuzcosmonautslaunchedwithoutspacesuitsuntilSoyuz12.
Actuallyassoonastherocketwentoffasolarpanelfailedtounfoldfromtheship.
Happensallthetimetoday,it'snothingtowritehomeabout.TherewasreallynothingfatallywrongwiththeSoyuzexceptfor
theparachutedeployment.TheApollo13missionwasmuchworse,excepttheirchutedidn'tfail.
Hedieduponreentry.
Completebullshit.HediedwhenSoyuzcrashedintothegroundat40m/s.
WhatyouarelisteningtointhatexcerptareKomorov'slastmoments.
No,you'relisteningtosomethingsomeonepulledoutoftheirass.ThelastwordsanybodyeverheardKomarovsaywere
"Separationcomplete,"andnobodyknowswhathisfinalmomentswereactuallylike.Probablynothinglikethis,though.
Cursingthesovietgovernmentforputtinghimintheship.Healsospoketohiswifebeforethistellingherwhattosayto
theirkidsandtriedtocomforthiswife.
Again,false.Hewasacosmonaut,ahighlytrainedprofessional,thebestofthebest.Thisisaninsulttohimandeverything
hestoodfor.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=24529.0
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Thisalonesinksthewholeconspiracytheory.SoyuzcosmonautslaunchedwithoutspacesuitsuntilSoyuz12.
Uhm,beingadvocatefortheDevil,butI'mprettysurethatSoyuz1wassupposedtomeetupinorbitwithSoyuz2,and
executeacrewexchangeviaSpacewalk.
Hardtodothatwithoutspacesuit.
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Sobasically,hedied.
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Hedieduponreentry
Heactuallysurvivedreentry,butwaskilledwhentheparachutesfailedtoproperlydeploy.Thecapsuleslammedintothe
ground,itslandingmotorsignited,andhisbodywasburnedbeyondrecognitionintheresultingfire.
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[] PoliticalPrisonGuard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheradiotranscriptsarebytwoamateurradiooperatorsinItaly.Ifitweretrue,I'msuretheU.S.would'veusedthatnicepieceof
antiSovietpropagandaverywell.
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[] Flyberius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitwasratherthoroughlyexposedtobeahoax.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JudicaCordiglia_brothers
There'squiteabitofevidencestackedagainstthosetheories.Forinstance,thepurportedrecordingsofSovietcosmonauts
communicatingbeforetheirdemisehavethecosmonautscommunicatingverydifferentlyandusingnonstandardcommunication
methods,indicatingthatiftheyareahoax,thatthepersonorpeoplethatcreatedthemhadlittleknowledgeofcosmonaut
communicationprotocol.Also,therockettheyclaimcarriedthemtodeepspaceisincapableofreachingevenreachingdeepspace
becauseitisincapableofacceleratingtoescapevelocity.
Nottomentionthatthereareseveralconfirmed"preGagarinspaceflight"hoaxes,showingthatthereisatleastsomepopular
interestinfakingstorieslikethese.
Thoserecordingsareeerie,forsure,butlikelyahoax.
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[] wetwater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomewhereIwasreadingaboutthebrothersandtheirrecordingsanditwasmentionedhowveryoddthecosmonauts
seemedtobespeakingwithItalianaccentedRussian,aswellasthelackofpropercommunicationprotocol.
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[] ajonstage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Arocketdoesn'tneedtoreachescapevelocitytoescapeEarth'sorbit.Butmaybeyousimplymisusedtheterm.Escape
velocityistheminimuminitialspeednecessarytoescapeagravitationalfieldwithoutanadditionalenergysource.It'srelevant
fortryingtolaunchsomethinglikeacannonball,butrocketsburnfuelastheyfly.
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[] tym0027 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'velookedintothesetheoriesbeforeandIdolargelyagreewithyou.Thatthelostcosmonautevidencepresentedismost
likelyahoax.However,onethingI'vealwayshadaproblemwithisthatpeople'sgotoreasonthatthisisahoaxisthatthe
Russiansbreakcommunicationprotocols.
Weshouldputourselvesinthatposition.Yourgovernmenttellsyoutheywon'tbeabletosaveyou.Andthenwhat,maybe
theyturnoffcommunicationtoyou?Whatwouldyoudo?Yourinatinybox.Slowlygettinghotterandhotter.Wouldyoube
keepingtoradioprotocoldesperatelytryingtogetsomeonetoansweryourcriesforhelp?
Ithinktherearemanybetterreasonstoassumethetapesandrecordedeventsarefake.
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[] MrG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnupvoteforaninterestingoriginalcommentandanupvoteforyouforprovidingwhatwealllookforonReddit.
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[] sje46 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwaslisteningtotheThinkingSidewayspodcastaboutthisverytopicwhenIranacrossthispost.
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ItdoesseemlikebullshitbutIcouldseeamanwhoknewhewasgoingtodieinspaceabandoningpropercommprotocol.
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[] maya0nothere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButthurtAmericastillcantgetoverthatthecommieswhere1stinspace.
Andstilluseoldcommiespacetechtogointospacetoday!
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Iunderstandthey'reahoaxbutIcan'tseemtofindanyoftherecordingsotherthantheoneofthefemaleexperiencing
problemsduringreentry.
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[] James20k undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tneedtoreachescapevelocitytogetintospace,escapevelocityistoescapethegravityofearthentirely.Spaceis
somethinglike2%ashardasescapevelocity
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butuntilyoureachescapevelocityyouwillalwaysfallbackdown.
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[] Sir_Wangsalot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tneedtoreachescapevelocityifyouaccelerateforasignificantamountofthetrip.MaybeI'mbeing
pedantic,butit'saninterestingdistinction.Escapevelocitymeansyoucangoinfinitelyfarfromthegravitysource
withoutanyadditionalacceleration.Inreality,rocketsareacceleratingyouupforawhile,soeventhingslikemoon
missionsorvoyagerdidn'treachescapevelocity.
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[] AODotA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthatwhy30,000satellitesjustfellintomybackyard?
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They'reallfallingrightnow,butthey'realsomovingfastenoughsidewaysthatthey"miss"theearth.
Andyes,theywillalleventuallyfallbacktoEarth.Howlongthattakesdependsonhowcirculartheirorbits
are.
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[] Joecalone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybefake,butI'llbedamnedifitdoesn'tmakeagoodwritingprompt
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There'sreallynoquestionaboutit.LostCosmonautsisonparwithdenialofthelunarlandings.
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Theproblemisthatthereareactualdocumenteddeathsofcosmonauts,butbecausepeopledon'tunderstandtheLost
CosmonautconspiracyisaboutdeathspriortoGagarin,theysometimesrefusetobelieveanydeathshappenedinthe
Sovietspaceprogram.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_11
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SimilaroutlandishclaimscouldbemadeaboutNASAlaunchingtheChallengershuttleeventhoughengineers
werevocalaboutthepossibledangersassociatedwiththeweather.Soyuz11wasatleastwelldocumented.The
crewwasgivenatelevisedstatefuneralandcommemoratedinmanyways.
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[] Zoraxe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,I'mwithyouonthatone.WhenIfirstheardaboutit,theideadefinitelyappearedtohavemerit(e.g.Russia
launchedinsecret,sotheycouldhaveeasilyhisdeaths).Buta)notasinglecosmonautcanbeidentifiedasapossible
lostone,b)allofthetheoriesfalltopiecesasobvioushoaxes,andc)plentyofpeoplediedinthecosmonautprogram
(farmorethantheastronautprogram),andRussianevermademuchefforttodenythem.Asofnow,thereareno
compellingreasontobelievethattherearelostcosmonauts.
Thatbeingsaid,Iwilldefinitelybelievethatthehistoryofspacetravelistaughtwithexpliciteffortstohidethefactthat
Russiasentthefirstwomanupintospace.MyselfandmostofmyfriendsgrewupbelievingSallyRidewasthefirst
womaninspace,eventhoughRussiasentValentinaTereshkovaupnearly20yearsbeforeher.
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[] lobster_conspiracy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igrewup(inaWestern/firstworldcountry)learningthatValentinaTereshkovawasthefirstwomaninspace.But
thenthatwas10yearsbeforeSallyRideflew.
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[] Jonthrei undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
c)plentyofpeoplediedinthecosmonautprogram(farmorethantheastronautprogram),andRussianever
mademuchefforttodenythem.
Actually,3timesasmanyastronautshavediedascosmonauts.Onesingularshuttleexplosionkilledmore
astronautsthancosmonautshaveeverdied.
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[] StudentOfMrKleks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,butUSSRhadbigfireonlaunchsiteandbunchofengineersdied.
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[] Jonthrei undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatwasanICBM,notreallyspaceprojectrelated.TheUShadthosetoo.
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andthatAmerica"won"thespacerace.Sure,wegotamanonthemoon,buttheRussiansdidalotofresearch
thatwenevereventried.
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Well,thatoneisjustopinion,butinthedirectdefinitionofarace,wewerethefirsttoreachthefinishline.
Sowewonthespacerace,butmaybedidn'twinthespace...test?
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[] Thucydides411 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wewerethefirsttoreachthefinishline
TheUSwasthefirsttoreachthearbitraryfinishlinethatitset.Kennedysetthatfinishlinebecause
hisadvisorstoldhimthattheUShadagoodshotatbeatingtheSovietUniontoit.TheSovietshad
alreadybeatentheUSin
1. Puttingthefirstsatelliteintoorbit
2. Puttingthefirsthumanintospace
3. Puttingthefirsthumanintoobit
IftheUShadsetanearliergoalasthe"finishline,"likeconductingthefirstspacewalk,itwouldhave
lost.ButreachingthemoonwasadistantandexpensiveenoughgoalthattheUSwaslikelytobeat
theSovietUnion,iffornootherreasonthattheUSwasmuchwealthierandcouldaffordtoputupthe
massiveamountsofmoneyrequired.
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Iknowtheybeatusonthosethings.Butthewholethingwasjustapissingcontestthatwas
commonduringthecoldwar.Andourhugepublishedfirstmanonthemoonwonusthatrace.
Thatwasthewholepointofitforthesetwocountries.Sciencejusthappenedtowinafewinthe
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[] navyseal722 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Spaceraceisjustlikeamarketingterm.Tohypeitup.Whenreallyitwasashowofwhowas
superior.Therealracewastomakeweaponsofallthenewtechnology.Sointermstherussians
madealmostallofthebogaccomplishments.Bittheustookessentiallythelastandbiggestone.
Doesntmeanwewonbyanymeasure.
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Fine,callitracetothemoon.I'mnotarguingtheRussiansweren'tkickingourasses,I'mjust
sayingthatoncewemadeittothemoonthe"race"prettymuchstopped.
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SputnikwaslaunchedatopanICBM.Buildingrocketsthatcangotothemoonwasanice
metaphorforwecangetyoufromhere.
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Idon'tthinkanyonereachedthefinishline.WegottothefirstpitstopandtheSovietswerelike,"well,
we'renotevengoingtotrytogetthereanymore"
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Butitwasacompetitionbetweenthesetwocountries,anditwastheColdWar.Stoppingthe
Sovietsonthisiswinning.Thecontinuedstudyofspacedidn'tandshouldn'tstop,butthe
"SpaceRace"did.
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[] thephotoman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,therockettheyclaimcarriedthemtodeepspaceisincapableofevenreachingdeepspacebecauseitisincapable
ofacceleratingtoescapevelocity.
Therehasonlybeenonemannedvehiclecapableofthis:theSaturnV.Orbitalvehiclesdon'tgoallthewaytoescape
velocity.Theyjustgotoorbitalvelocity.
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Iwas13whenhewentup,andanewsjunkiewithashortwaveradio.Irememberhearinganewsreportthepreviousday,
sayingthere"wasarumor"thattheUSSRmighttryandputamanintospacewithinthenext24hours.
Irememberclearlythatthenewsreportedthisasarumor,butitcametopass.
Thethingis,therewerealotofrumorsaboutwhatwasgoingtohappennext,andthismighthavebeenaluckycall.
It'sdefinitelynotafalsememoryonmypart,andeversincehisflight,wheneverpeoplewouldsayitwasasecret,Iwas
remindedofthatnewsreport.AndpeopleweresayingthatabouteverySovietspaceflight,untiltheystartedannouncingthem
inadvanceorinprogress.
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[] mil0sh_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Awman,IloveRedditforuserslikeyousharingstorieslikethis.Reallyinteresting,thanksforsharing.
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[] Makaveli1987 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Betterthananewspaper
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Also,therockettheyclaimcarriedthemtodeepspaceisincapableofevenreachingdeepspacebecauseitisincapable
ofacceleratingtoescapevelocity.
Whatdoesthatevenmean?Rocketsdon'thavetoreachescapevelocity,becausetheyhave,well,rockets.Unlessyoumean
tosuggestthattherocketstoppedburningbeforereachingspaceanddidn'thaveenoughvelocitytocontinueintospace.
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[] bothanspy1337 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatmakesabsolutelynosense.ArocketneedstoatleastbegoingattheescapevelocityofEarthinorderforitto
leaveEarth'ssphereofinfluence.Iftherocketdoesn'treachEarth'sescapevelocity,itwillremaininEarth'sinfluenceor
fallbacktotheground.
Rocketsdon'thavetoreachescapevelocity,becausetheyhave,well,rockets.
Uh...yestheydo?That'showrocketswork.Theyburnfuelwhichpropelsthemforward.Eitheryouhaveaserious
misunderstandingofphysics/rocketry,oryou'retalkingoutofyourass.
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[] mavvie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlypartofwhathesaidistrue.Youcanescapeanorbitwithouteverreachingescapevelocitybycontinuously
generatingthrust.
Butifyoudon'thaveenoughfueltoreachescapevelocity,youaren'tescapingtheorbitnomatterwhatyoudo.
Soyeahe'squitemistaken.
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Iwasthinkingoftheactualscenarioanastronautwouldhavebeenin:He'sinatinylittlecapsulethatjust
barelymanagedtomakeitswaythroughtheatmosphereandnotonlyhasnowayofgeneratingthrust,but
isn'tgoinganywherefastenoughtoevenmakeitintoorbit.
Yes,it'stheoreticallypossibletoescapeEarth'ssphereofinfluenceifyouhaveastrongenoughthrust,but
thatwouldtakealudicrousamountoffuel.Andeventhen,itwouldstillhavetobestrongenoughtofight
againstEarth'sgravity,correct?
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Yes,correct.IfKSPhastaughtmeanythingit'sthatthemostfuelefficientwaytoescapeaplanetisto
circularizeyourorbitrightabovetheatmosphereandthenkeepburningatthelowestpointinyour
orbituntil,afterenoughorbitsandburns,youachieveescapevelocity.
Burningcontinuouslyandescapingwouldindeedbe...honestly,probablyimpossibledueto
engineeringconstraints.
Andeventhen,mathematicallyyoudon'tescapethegravityfieldunlessyoureachescapevelocity.
Socontinuouslyburningwillgetyousofarawayyou'dbeinanothersphereofinfluence,but
mathematicallystilldidn'tescape.
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Thatwasactuallymypoint.Velocityisn'ttheissue,energyintheformoffuelistheissue.
MostlyIwasjustbeingpedanticbecauseofhowcommonitisforpeopletomisuseescapevelocity.Also,if
theywereaimingfororbitthentheywerenotstrictlyescaping.
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Therocketwasincapableofovercominggravitylongenoughtogetsomethingintospace.
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Ofcourse.That,however,hadlittletodowithescapevelocityandmoretodowiththeamountofenergystoredin
therocket.
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[] ace625 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatyoujustsaidmakesabsolutelynosense.EscapevelocityisthespeedneededtoescapeEarth'sgravity.Ifyou
don'treachit,youaren'tleaving.
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[] Solidkrycha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyfuckingrocketcanachievethatspeed.
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Sojustbyvirtueofbeingarocket,itcanreachdeepspace?Wtfareyoutalkingabout?
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[] Orc_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Escapevelocityisirrelevanttorocketsbecauseofthrust.
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Ifyouhaveenoughfueltofightgravitythewholewayoutofasphereofinfluencewithouteverreaching
escapevelocity,thenyoualsohavemorethanenoughfueltoexceedescapevelocity.
Launchingverticallyratherthanusingaperiapsisburnwouldbeanexampleofthis.
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Itstillreachesescapevelocity,it'sjustalowerescapevelocitybecauseyou'veincreasedaltitude,orr.
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[] whatthefat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'reunderacommonmisconception.Theescapevelocityistheinitialspeedanobjectwouldneedtoescape
thebodygivennofurtherthrust(e.g.,anobjectblastedoutofacannon).ArocketcouldleaveEarthataconstant
relativespeedof1m/sifithadthrustequaltotheforceofgravity(i.e.,decreasingthrustas1/r2).
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"escapevelocity"whentalkingaboutrocketsiscommonlyunderstoodtobethetotalchangeinvelocity
(deltav)requiredratherthantheexactvelocity.Sincedeltavistheintegralofacceleration,and
accelerationisrarely(ifever)constant,wejustcallit"escapevelocity"ratherthan"thetotalamountofthrust
requiredoveraperiodoftimeassumingyou'regoingupwardatacertainangleandyourfuelefficiencyis
suchandsuch..."
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[] DinoBurner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atsomepointtherocketrunsoutoffuel,atthatpointiteitherhasorhasnotreachedescapevelocityfor
thatgivenpointinspace.Escapevelocitydoesn'thavetobecalculatedastheinitialvelocityontheEarths
surface,itcanbecalculatedforanypointinspace.
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[] howtospeak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youimplyweflyrocketswithenoughfueltoreachescapevelocity.
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Ifthatiswhatwasintendedbytheinitialcomment,thenfine,butthatwasnotmyimpression,norisit
myimpressionbasedontheindividual'sfollowupcomments.
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Yes,butthat'sequivalenttothetotaldeltaVrequired.Asothershavementioned,therocketisn'tcapableof
that.
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Fine,butthat'sacompletelydifferentpoint.I'maddressingyourerroneousclaimthat"Ifyoudon't
reachit,youaren'tleaving."
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Youstillhavetoreachescapevelocity.Itmightbealowervaluethanwhenr=0,butyoustill
havetoreachit.
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youonlyhavetoreachitifyouwanttoleavetheEarthMoonsystementirely.
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[] Jorisje undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity
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Yes,thisconfirmswhatIsaid.
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[] IkLms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,itdoesn't.Itwouldthenneedtobeburningallthewayuntilitleftearth'ssphereofinfluence
whichitwouldnotbecapableofdoingatall.
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[] Peap9326 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thevoftherocketwaslessthan11,190M/s/s.
Goto/r/kerbalspaceprogramformoreinfo.
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[] alltherobots undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustFYI:dVismeasuredinm/s.
(It'snotanaccelerationrate,it'sanaccelerationquantity.)
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No,visM/s/sbecauseit'snotalreadygoingatthatspeed.
Ithink.
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He'sright,it'sm/sbecausetimeisn'tafactor.Ifyouburnslowlyorquickly,whenyourunoutoffuel
you'llhaveXmorem/sthanyoustartedwith.
Notabigdealthough.Anyways,adeltameanslikev2v1,whichhasthesameunitsasvelocity(m/s)
becausesubtractiondoesn'tchangeunits.
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[] seventeenninetytwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sdefinitelym/s.WorkouttheunitsfromtheTsiolkovskyrocketequation.
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Ok.You'reright.Sorry.
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1. Thatisanacceleration,notavelocity.
2. Arocketneverneedstoreachthataccelerationorvelocityaslongastherocketisburning.
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[] spacemanspiff30 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotarocketsurgeonbyanystretchoftheimagination,butyou'reconflatingtwodifferentconcepts.The
rocketitselfisincapableofprovidingsufficientthrusttopropeltherockettoearthescapevelocitygivenits
payloadandfuelcapacities.Therefore,there'snowayitcouldhavesentthoseastronautstodieifthey
wouldn'tevenbeabletoleaveearthorbitonthegivenrocket.
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Thismeanswhileitisanintriguingstory,it'sclearlynotreal.
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Myoriginalpointwasthemisuseofthetermescapevelocity.Whattherocketslackedwassufficient
energytogetintoorbit.
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Bethatasitmayinatechnicallevel,itwasprettyclearwhatwasmeantbytheuseoftheterm.
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No,thatisthemeasureofthepotentialenergyoftherocket.
Arocketneedsatleastthatmuchpotentialenergytoovercomeearth'sgravitationalpullatitsextent.
Therocketdoesn'thavetoreachthatspeed.That'slikesayingthatacarthathas22milespergallonmust
expend1/22ndofagallonoffuelpermiletravelled.
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Theescapevelocitychangeswithdistanceand,ifgoingintoorbit,urtechnicallyneverneedstoreach
escapevelocitysinceitisnotescaping.
Itobviouslyneedsthecorrectamountofpotentialenergytogetintoorbit,butthatisnotescape
velocity,thatisenergy.
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No,itdoesn't.Solongasgisconstant,escapevelocityistoo.Escapevelocityisaderivativeof
g.
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Source?I'dbeveryinterestedinreadinguponthat.
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[] taylorha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoogleTheLostCosmonautsformoreinfo,butforthemostpartthetheoriessurroundingthis,especiallytheaudio
recordings,havesomeprettystrongevidencetothembeingfake.WhileIbelievetheSovietmentalityatthetimewouldlikely
haveallowedforsenselesslaunchingofhumansuntilitworked,Idon'tthinkitactuallyhappened.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030602021815/http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/
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[] Plerf 1point
Allofthem.
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even'JewsaresecretlyLizardswhoarecontrollingtheplanetswithspacemoney'one?
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Youdon'tthinkthat'strue?
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itobviouslyistruebutIdon'tthinkthey'resosecretaboutit,Isawa240pvideoofoneturningintoalizard.
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[] kennyfinpowers55 12points
Theoneaboutthatonepresident
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[] Ratboy2078 22points
YoumeantheonewhereWilliamHenryHarrisonwasactuallypoisonedandkilledduetohiscrackdownondankmemeswhenhetook
office?
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Totallyjustifiedinmymind
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[] kennyfinpowers55 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ofcourse,didyouevenhavetomentionthedetails?
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[] aes110 6points
Fashioncompany'smakespocketlessclothesforwomensotheywillbuytheirpurses
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[] CrumbDonuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijusthadthatthoughtearliertoday
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[] MediumSizedTurtle 5698points
MichaelJordanwassecretlysuspendedforgambling,whichiswhyhequittoplaybaseballinhisprimeonlytoreturnlater.
There'slotsandlotstothisconspiracytheory,andit'sprettydamnbelievable.
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[] super_pickle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'tscrollthroughthehundredsofrepliestoseeifsomeonehasalreadysaidthis,butit'sprettyridiculous.There'snoevidence
anywherethatJordaneverbetononeofhisowngamesandthenthrewitforthemoney.Theleaguewouldhavenoreasontosuspend
himnorwouldtheysuspendtheirbiggestmoneymaker,especiallyiftheycouldcoverupwhateverbadthinghedid,whichthe
conspiracyclaimstheywereabletodo.AndasmuchasJordanwasgambling,healwayshadbillionsofdollarstopayhisdebts.He
wouldn'tberunningfromabookiewhokilledhisfatherto"sendamessage"whywouldabookieevendothat?Theymightthreaten
harmtohisfamily,butactuallykillinghisdadwouldmakenosense.Thentheleagueseizessomesortofperceivedopportunityto
suspendJordanandloseoutonbillionsofdollarsforsomeinfractiontheysuccessfullycoveredup?Howdoesthatmakeanysenseat
all?MorelikeJordanwasveryclosetohisfather,whoalwayswantedhissontoplaybaseball,andhewasgoingthroughalot
emotionallyafterhisfather'ssenselessmurderandlefttopursuehisfather'sdreamforhim.Oncehe'dprocessedsomeofhisemotions
andrealizedbasketballwaswherehisheart(andtalents)lied,hewentback.
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[] bill11222 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vealwaysbeenonthefencewiththisone.wouldtheNBAallowapersonwithagamblingaddictionandtiestoorganisedcrimeowna
franchise?
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[] MediumSizedTurtle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausethey'dhavetocomeoutandsaywhythey'reblockingthemostprolificplayerinNBAhistoryfrombuyingateam,soall
theirsecretsfromyearsbeforecamebacktobitethem.
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Ihearya.but,ifhewassodeepintogamblingandorganizedcrime,IthinktheNBAsays...youmakeabidforateamandyou
forceourhandtomakepublicyoursuspension.
helosesmore.fortheNBA,abliponthescreen.forJordan,helosesallendorsementsandhisreputationistrashed.
noonewilleverreallyknow,unlesssomesoliddocumentationismadepublic.
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[] kbkbkb888 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
heowedabookiesomuchmoneythattheymurderedhisfather,lookitup.he'samemberatmedalistgolfclubdowninflorida,guy
gamblesawaymillionseachyearongolf
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[] CupICup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gambleonhimself?
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Thisonemakesnosensetome.
First,iftheywantedtosuspendhimtheywouldhavewantedtodoitpubliclytosendamessagetootherplayers.A"secretsuspension"
doesnotgood.
Second,theNBAneededJordanliketheyneedLebrontoday.Theymadesomuchmoremoneybecauseofhim.DavidSternneeded
Jordanmorethananyone.
Third,thissortofsecretdealwouldbeknownbytheleagueanditsownersandprobablywould'vepreventedthemfromapprovinghis
ownershipofateam.
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Noitwasbecauseofcartoonanimalshavingtoplayabasketballgameagainstcartoonaliens.
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ImentionedthesamethingatthetimeandmyfathersnortedatitandIsoonputitoutofmymindsinceIdon'tfollowsports.Afew
yearsagohecasuallymentionedhehadthesamebelief,whichIfoundinteresting,butdidn'tbothercommenton.
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It'smorelikeSterntoldthemintheirprivatemeetingthathehadtoretireonceitbecameobvioushisfatherwasmurderedasawarning
toJordantopayhisgamblingdebts.
Consideringthattheprosecutorwhoconvicted"thosePuertoRicanguys"thatwenttojailoveryearsoffalsifyingevidenceandperjury,
includingduringtheJordanSr.trial,IhavelittledoubtthatSenior'sdeathwasahitjob,andSterntoldJordantotakeaseatuntilthe
wholethingworkeditselfout.
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[] I_Key_Cars undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenextthingyou'lltellmeistherefsweredirtytoo.
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Intheveinofbasketballplayersnotplayingbasketball....IbelievethatMagicJohnsonneverhadHIV,butthathiswifemadehimsay
hedid.Ithinkthatshefoundouthecheated(onceormultipletimes)anddecidedthatthebestwaytokeepwomenfromsleepingwith
himwasforhimtotelltheworldhehasHIV.Andnotplayingbasketballwouldbeabigpunishmentforhistransgression(s).
Thiswouldexplainwhyhe'slived20+yearswithoutlosingasinglepound.
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Howcantheysuspendhimforgambling?
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Nooffense,butthisisridiculous.
First,whywouldDavidSternsuspendhisbiggestcashcow,andsecond...
Whatisthepointofsuspendingaplayerifyou'regoingtokeepitasecret?
RonArtestgotsuspendedfor73gamesbecauseheranintothestandsandattackedafan.(Afanwhoturnedouttobeinnocent,by
theway.)Themessagewasblatant:Don'tgoafterthepayingcustomers,it'sbadforbusiness,andifanyoftherestofyouarethinking
aboutdoingit,thisiswhat'sgoingtohappen.
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Samewithdrugviolationsormultipleflagrantfouls.Thewholepurposeofa"crimeandpunishment"system,evenaprivateonesuch
asthatintheNBA,istodeterbadbehaviorandmakeexamples/warningsoutoftheoffenders.
IfnoonewasgoingtoofficiallyacknowledgethatMichaelJordandidsomethingworthyofsuspension,thenwhatisthepointof
suspendinghim?Whynotjustlethimkeepplaying?
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ThatwasinBillSimmonsBookofBasketballright?
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Whywouldtheysuspendforgamblingthough?Spendinghisownmoneyandhe'sanadultitmakesnosensetome.
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[] grilledcheesesoup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lolthisisn'taconspiracytheory,thisistrue
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[] NogginaFloggin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'stheonlywaytoexplainwhyMJwentofftoplaybaseball(verybadly,mightIadd)aftercomingoffa3peatwiththeBullswhen
everyonewassayingtheycouldaddmanymoretothatstreak.
Thenagain,whenhedecidedtocomebacktobasketballin2001itwaswiththeWizardsofallteams(hehadownership,Iknow)sothe
guyiskindaweird.
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Youdon'tevenmentionhisdad'sstrangemurder.
Anyonewhodoesn'tbelievethisisnuts.
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Iheardthepeoplehewasgamblingwithkilledhisfathertoo.Mostlikelytotalshitbutsure.
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Hopefullythisisarebuffthatisevenmoretrue...
1Peoplebecomejadedandlosepurposeafterthesummitofsuccessisreached,andchallengesbecometrivial.Doeseveryday
evidencenotseemtosuggestthatthisappearstobeafundamentaltothehumanpsyche?
2Inresponsetothe"gambling"theories.Themanwasnottossinggames.Quitetheopposite.Sowhatistheargument?Hewas
buyingoffMalone,whowasbuyingofftherestoftheleague?
Seemsprobablynottrue.
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WhydidtheNBAleta"convicted"gamblerbuyateam?
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Prettysureitisthereasonhisfatherwaskilledtoo
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[] pilateV5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeyI'mfromBirmingham.
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Youmeanquitplayingbasketballright?
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Iamsolatetothis,butasarelatedMichaelJordantheory:
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Hisflugamewasactuallyahangovergame.
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WowI'veneverheardthis?Doyouhaveanylinkstowriteups?Idon'tdoubtthisonebitveryinterestinginreadingstuff.
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Ifyouwereananimal,whatanimalwouldyoube?Also,whatsizedoyouthinkyouwouldbe?
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Theproblemwiththisis...Jordanwasalreadyawellknowngambler.Hehasevenadmittedit.Everyoneknowsabouthishabits.
Barkleywasalsoaknowngambler.TheonlywayitwouldbeacontroversywouldbeiftheywerebettingontheNBAitselfwhichthere
doesn'tseemtobemuchevidenceof.
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I'mprettysureMichaelJordanplayedBasketball?
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[] mightytwin21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isaythiseverythingthereisapostaboutwhatareyousureofbutcan'tprove.
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[] therealGrinBast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ehnotreally.Imeanthenflletsknownwifebeatersbackintotheleague,playerswhoarehardlythefaceoftheleaguelikeMJwas.
AlsoBarkley,Pippen,Oakleyarehugegamblersbutnotonmikeslevelbuttheynevergetsuspensions?Iwantedtobelievethissobad
yearsagobutitdoesntringtrue.MJisahugegambler.ButDavidsternwasnotretarded.PartofMJretiringwashisfathersdeathand
theotherpartwas3titledefensesinarowplustheDreamTeam.Mosttheseredditorshaventchangedtheirbedsheetsinmonths.
Theydontunderstandthephysicalandmentalexhaustion.Magic,Isiah,LarryBird,noneofthemwonathreepeat
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Exceptforthefactthatthere'snothingillegalaboutgambling,andifhewasn'tbettingonNBAgames,theNBAwouldn'thavecared.
Theywouldn'thavewantedtosuspendJordan,hewasandstillisbyFARthebiggestbasketballstar,intermsofmarketability,thatthe
NBAhaseverseen.AndiftheyDIDsuspendhimforgambling,they'dwanttomakeitaspublicaspossible,inordertomakeahuge
exampleoutofhim,showingthatnooneisabovetheirrules,justliketheMLBdidwithPeteRose.There'sreallynoreasontobelieve
thistheory,exceptforthefactthatMJlikedtogamble.ButsodidCharlesBarkley,andhewasevenmorepublicaboutitthanMJ,AND
hewasamorecontentiousandcontroversialplayerthanMJ.TheNBAprobablywouldhavelovedtohandBarkleyasuspensionafew
times,buttheyneverdidforanythingotherthanspittingonafan.
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Iworkedinsportstelevisionforatime.TwoformerWhiteSoxplayers...rememberReinsdorfownedtheBullsandtheSox...toldmeit
wascommonknowledgeintheWhiteSoxorganizationthatJordanhadbeensuspendedfromtheNBAandthat'swhyhewasplaying
minorleaguebaseball.
Theyalsosaidhewasterribleatbaseball,andattheendalotofpitchersintheminorsstartedthrowinghimmeatballstohittheyfeltso
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Youmeanbasketball?
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[] factions undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notwithanyknowledgeofthecontext.
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[] MiaKhalifafcuk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MichaelJeffreyJordan,alsoknownbyhisinitials,MJ,isanAmericanformerprofessionalbasketballplayer.Heisalsoabusinessman,
andprincipalownerandchairmanoftheCharlotteHornets.
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[] Shadow_XG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
he'salsoanassholetofanswhoaren'thotwomen
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[] Meh_Turkey_Sandwich undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nope.IfyoureadtheJordanRules.Whichtakesplaceinthe1991season,Jordanwasalreadytakingaboutbeingburntoutand
wantingtostepawayfromthefromgameinafewyears.Hedidjustthat.
Also,whycomeupwiththisconvolutedplantomakeitlooklikehe'splayingbaseball.Insteadofjustfininghim?Ittakeslesseffortto
simplyfinehimandlethimkeepmakingtheleaguemoney.Whysuspendhim,andloserevenue.Itmakeslittlesense.
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Prettysurehequitcausehisdadwasmurdered.
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Nothere'snot.TheNBAsecretlysuspendingthemostpopularathleteintheworldayearforgamblingisridiculous.
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[] garythedog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howhaveineverheardthisbefore?Makesalotofsenseandsodoeshisfather'sdeath.JustwatchedadocumentaryonJordan
playingbaseballtooandneverthoughtwhyhe"walkedaway"fromthegame.
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I'veheardthisonealotbefore,andthere'sonethingaboutitIdon'tgetatall.
What'sthepointofsuspendinghimandkeepingitsecret?Suspendinghimshowsadesiretoupholdtherules,butwhyevendoit
you'regoingtocoveritup?You'renotmakinganexampleofhimoranythinginthatscenario.
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[] joliedame undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomydadwenttoschoolatCarolinathesametimeasJordan.Playedpickupballwithhimfromtimetotime.Saidhewasasweetkid.
TwentyyearslaterhemethimagainatacharityeventandsaidJordancouldnotbemoreofanasshole.
Thedad'smurderasabookiehitmakesalotofsenseandblowsmymindatthesametime.
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Occam'sRazor.
Hequitbecausehewantedto.Hecamebackbecausehewantedto.
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Ihonestlythinkthisoneisthemostunbelievabletheory.Thenbadoesn'tsuspendthebestplayerofalltime,themoneymakingplayer,
becausehegambles.Theydon'tevensuspendplayersforspousalabuse.
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[] TheDarwinChronicles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HugeBullsfan.BacktopreJordandays.ThisoneIhatetoadmithasalotof"likelihood"toit,Ihatetoadmit.Dammit.
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[] TakeTheShotStaaaan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thispostandalltheupvotedcommentsareliterallyexactcopiesofwhatwaspostedinthelast"Whatconspiracytheoryisprobably
true?"thread.
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[] unseine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisis100%definitelynottrue.
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IworkedindowntownChicagoformanyyears.WastoldbynumerousHotelsecuritystaffandtheirchoicetaxidriversthatMichaeland
mostofthe90'sbullswereintensegamblers.Bettingongamesandhowmuchtheywouldscore.
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JustyesterdayIwatcheda30:30onNetflixcalled"JordanRidestheBench".Theytalkedaboutthisconspiracyandbroughtupsome
goodpointsaboutwhyit'sbogus,namelythatitmakesliterallynosensewhenyouactuallystopandthinkaboutit.
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SamethingforTigerWoodsbutwithPEDsandnotgambling.
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Makessenselol.AlsomakesensethathissonwenttoVegasduringbasketballseasonwithateammateandblewlike50kinonenight
whileplayingforUCF.
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Killedhisdadbecauseheowedmoney.
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DamnIJUSTwatchedthe30for30bouthisswitchtobaseballyesterday
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Stupidtheory.Whydidhecomebackmidseason????You'reafuckingidiotforpushingthistrash.
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Howcouldanyonekeepthisasecret?
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Isn'tMichaelJordanabasketballplayer?
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Thissameanswercomesupasoneofthetopsevertytimethisquestionisaskedwhichiseveryfewweeksitseems.Mustbetrue.
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AddinthathisdadwaskilledduetoMichael'sgamblingdebts.
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[] parst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nahthisisbullshit.IthinkMichaelJordanwasthetypethatactuallygotboredwithbasketballforawhile.
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WowI'veneverevenheardofthisone
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Ithoughtthishappenedwhenhisfatherdied
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ThereisnowaytheNBAwouldhaveallowedhimtopurchasetheCharlotteHornetsifthisweretrue.Theymighthaveallowedhimto
retireandcomeback,butnottothelateronpurchaseateam.Therewouldhavebeennotscandalinhisnotpurchasingateamafterhe
retiredthesecondtime.
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Anditscounterpart:DavidSternfrozetheKnicks'envelopeinthe1985draftlottery,sohewouldknowwhichenvelopetopulloutofthe
wheeltomakesurethe#1pick(superstarPatrickEwing)wouldgototheNewYorkKnicks,abigmarketteamthatneededaboost.
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thisisextremelyfarfetchedthough,andreliesonDavidSternbeingamoreorlessincompetentcommissioner,whichhewasn't
"hmmhowcanIpunishthemostpopularandlucrativeontheplanet,who'shelpedbringinternationalattentiontomysportandmakes
memillionsbybeingonthecourt?igotit,i'llbanhimfromplayingbasketballforatotallyarbitrary1.7seasons!"
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Similarsituation,butdrugabuse,probably,forNadal.
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[] mv8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Baseballorbasketball?
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[] NastyKnate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
The1yearhewas'retired'wasa1yearsuspensionforgambling.Wasthatthesameyearhewenttoplaybaseball?
Onarelatednote,the30for30,JordanRidesTheBusisfantastic.
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Wow,Ihaveneverheardthis.
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[] Gandolf1996 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
basketball?
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[] Ihateloops undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhisfather'smurderwasduetohimowingthewrongpeoplealotofmoneyfromgambling.
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Wouldn'tsurpriseme.Turnsouthe'skindofadouche.
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Unfortunately,Ithinkhisfatherdiedbecauseofthosegamblingproblemsaswell.
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Don'tyoumeanNykalJordan?
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[] StatMeansNow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,lookwhowaspayingattentionthelasttimethisquestionwasasked
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ithoughthequitbecausehesuckedatit?
Honestly,Idon'tfollowbasketballanddidn'tfollowhiscareerbutIrememberthehypearounditandIthoughthequitbecausehedidn't
dominatethewayhedidinBasketball.
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EverytimethiscomesuponredditIwritethis,anditturnsoutthisisthetimeit'sthetopvotedcomment...:(
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Hahathatsucks.ThisisthefirsttimeI'vehadabigupdatedcomment.JustsohappenedIposteditearlysoittookoff.Itdoubled
myimaginaryfriendspointsinonepost.
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Actually,it'sbeennotedforalongtimethatmikealwayslikedplayingbaseballmoreThanbasketball.Yourtalentsaren'talwaysyour
dreams.
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[] Banshee90 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsotheflugamewasahangover/drunkgame.Anytimesomeonestatesflulikesymptomstheyatehintingatthat.
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TheMormonsfuckedwithhisfoodandgothimsick.
Theyalsosentamarchingbandtohishotelroomat3amandprankcalledhimallthroughoutthenighteverynighthewasintown.
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ThisIdoubt.Iknowhe'sprobablynotthesmartestguyintheworldbutIcan'tthinkofanyonestupidenoughtogetblastedthenight
beforeoneofthemoreimportantgamesofhislife.
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Hehadanaddictiveandcompetitivepersonality
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[] super__sonic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
eh,afterseeingthe30for30Idontreallybuythisconspiracy
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[] Downbound92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatwouldbethepointofasecretsuspension?Ithinkthepointofsuspensionsis10%topunishtheplayerand90%towarn
everyoneelse.AsuspensioncouldalsoservetocovertheNBA'sassifsomethingbadweretohappeninvolvingMichaelJordanand
gambling.Butagain,ifit'ssecret,theirasswouldn'tbecovered.
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[] CC440 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Proofthatplayerthatintentionallythrewgamesforpersonalbenefitwoulddestroythesport.Thetheoryisbasedontheassumption
thatJordanbetagainsttheBullswhentheyexperiencedrarelossesduringthatera.
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"lotsandlotstothisconspiracy"
doesn'tmentiononevalidatingpoint
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[] internetUser0001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Juststudyitout...you'llsee!
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There'sabunchinthecomments.I'llpostsomeofthegoodstuffwhenI'mhomeandcanpullupresearch
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WhywouldtheNBAletsomeonefoundguiltyofbettingonNBAgamesbuyanNBAteam?
Anownerfixinggamescoulddestroythewholeleague.
Yourtheoryisbadandyoushouldfeelbad.
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Wow,thisdoeskindamakesense.
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[] amolad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MichaelJordanwassecretlysuspendedforgambling,whichiswhyhequittoplaybaseballinhisprimeonlytoreturnlater.
Thisis,andalwayshasbeen,totalbullshit.
TherewouldbeNOPOINTtosuspendingsomeoneWITHOUTtellingthepublicWHY.
Jordanwasthrownbythedeathofhisfatherandthoughthehadnothingtoproveafterthreepeating.Whenhisbaseballcareerdidn't
movealongfastenough,hewentbacktobasketball.
NoteverysportsjournalistinChicagowasinlovewithJordan.
Ifhehadbeengivensomekindof"secretsuspension,"believeme,itwouldhavemadeittoprint.
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Thankyou.Can'tbelievethisisthetopcomment.FuckingBillSimmons.
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Maybeitwasn'tasecretsuspensionatall,butMichaelworkedadealwiththeleaguethatifhelefthewouldn'tbesuspendedatall
NBAandMJ'simageispreserved.
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YoumustnotknowJordan'sego.Notachance.
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[] largeflightlessbird undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butmuhilluminati.
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[] Dnz2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eveninthecontextof2015theNBAwouldhaveeverypossiblereqsontoprotectastarlikeJordan.
Youdonthavetobelieveitbutitmakessense.
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[] StuLantz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dumbesttheoryever.Thewholepointofsuspensionistodeterothers.
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[] JMEEKER86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewholepointofsuspensionistodeterothers
Or,youknow,topunishoffenders.Punishmentsingeneralrarelyareeffectiveasadeterrentanyways.Andpleaseno
anecdotes,ifyoucaredenoughaboutpunishmenttonotdosomethingasakid,thenyoualreadyrecognizedthatitwasbad
tobeginwith.
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[] babooshkayaya undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Or,youknow,topunishoffenders.Punishmentsingeneralrarelyareeffectiveasadeterrentanyways.
So,you'rejustasadist??
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[] babooshkayaya undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Or,youknow,topunishoffenders.Punishmentsingeneralrarelyareeffectiveasadeterrentanyways.
So,you'rejustasadist??
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[] StuLantz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whentheculpritisyournumberonemoneymakerandbiggeststarathleteonearth,youdon'tpunishhimbycutting
yourrevenuesandviewership.Youcanhithimwithamassivefineanddeter,punishandnotcutrevenues.
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[] EastCoast2300 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inmyopinionbecausehewassuchaniconbackthen,itwouldhavebeendisastrousforsomethingtohappenthatcouldtarnishhis
image.Forexample,ifacoupleyearsagoDerekJeterwasfoundillegalygambling,maybethecommissionersofficemighttakea
differentcourseofactionforpunishmentsincehewasidolizedbykidsthesamewayMJwas.Maybetheydidn'twanttodamage
the"idea"ofMJ.OrmaybeI'mlookingwaytofarintothisandamactuallycrazy.
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[] JMEEKER86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SimilartohowTiger'saffairkilledgolfandLance'sdopingkilledcycling,atleastforawhiletosomedegreeforeach.Assad
asagreathangingitupisandalotofpeoplewilltuneoutiftheycan'tseethem,it'salotmoredevastatingtoafanbasewhen
greatnessfallssofar.
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Exactly,andwhilethosearegoodexample,MJgettingpubliclypunishedwouldbemilesworseashewasaniconofa
MUCHmorepopularsport,plusthere'sawholegenerationofbasketballplayingkidsthatlookeduptohimand
worshippedhim.Imaginewhatitwouldhavedonetothemtofindouthewasillegallygamblingandthat'sthereasonhis
dadwaskilled.
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[] elitemangudai undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThecrazythingisthatifJeterwasfoundillegallygambling,Iwouldn'tcareonebit,assuminghewasn'tbettingagainsthis
teamorhimself.
Wouldmostpeoplecare?What'stheharm?
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Topeople,especiallylittlekids,jeterwasanicon,someonepeople(ESPECIALLYlittlekidsthatplayedbaseball)looked
upto.Imaginewhoeveryourchildhoodherowas,whetheritwasNeilArmstrong,JohnLennonorwhoever.Imagineat
theheightoftheirsuccess,theywerefounddoingsomethingillegalthatforevertarnishedtheirreputation.Itwouldcrush
youaswellaseveryoneelsewhoidolizedthem.
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Butjustbecauseit'sillegaldoesn'tmeanIagreethatit'swrong.
Heshouldbepunishedbecauseit'sillegal,butitwouldn'ttarnishhisimageinmyeyes.
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You'renotalittlekidthough
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SAFESPACES!!!
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Iunderstandwhatyouaresaying,andifthiswackjobconspiracyistruemyguessisthatitisdonemostly
forallthechildrenthatlookeduptohim.
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[] piesoflies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywasn'tpeterosekeptasecretthen?Hewaskindofabigdeal.
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[] granos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,IwouldexpectsomebodyhigherupintheNBAtogivetheheadsuptosomebodyinMLBandsquashthat.It'snotmuchofa
punishmentifhestillgetstobeinthelimelightmakingtonsofmoney.
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HeneverplayedbaseballattheMajorLeaguelevel.
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[] spanksmu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Excuseme,butitwasbasketball.Getyourfuckingfactsstraight,dude!
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[] hardendapaint undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
??Heretiredinbasketballtoplaybaseball,beforecomingoutofretirementtoplaybasketballagain.Hequittoplaybaseball
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[] Enchanted_Bunny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtheplayedbaseballbecausehisdadwantedhimtobeabaseballplayer.
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[] jamiebiffy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dudeittookmy10minutesofgooglingtounderstandthatbaseballwasatypo...
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Nope,heplayedbaseballforlikeayearandahalfintheWhiteSoxminors.Wasn'tverygood
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[] Carvinrawks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisseriouslywhatSpaceJamisabout.
Michaelfallsintoaliteralholeandbetshislifeon1gametosaveeverythinghelovesandgetout.
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Funny.IthoughtSpaceJamwasabouteverybodywantingtolickhisballs.
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Ohhhhit'slikeIcantastetheBuzzfeedpostaboutthisinmycoffeetomorrowmorningalreadyandthe5terriblegifstellingmehow
toreact
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ThatwasinBillSimmonsBookofBasketballright?
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[] raabford undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtitwasaboutaliens
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[] gesy17 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisonamazonprimevideo...justsayingWatchedittwonightsago,therearesomanyendorsementdropsit'scrazy,thepart
wherehe'sinthehotelroomandstanaskshimifhewantsanythingNikeshoes,Gatorade,wheaties,etc
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Wait,areyousayingSpaceJamwasMichaelJordan'sattempttogetthetruthoutbyembeddingitsubtleyintoastory?
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[] jules_winnfieId undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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TILMichaelJordanwrotespacejam.Andactedhorriblyinit.
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[] KojimaForever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllthetoonsareactuallyrepresentationsofJordan'spersonalityassets.
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[] thedaj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,astorywithaprettycatchythemesong...Butyougotthegistofit.
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[] killingit12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Reddit,we'vedoneitagain.Caseclosed.
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[] Elbonio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SubtleisnotanadjectiveI'veeverassociatedwithSpaceJam
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ortodeflectthetruthbymakingitliterallytheentireplotofalooneytunesmovie.
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[] dangp777 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'slooney!
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[] SevensSea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasonacidduringthewholeordealandhallucinatedloonytoonsandallthat.Whenhesoberedupherealizedhistrip
wouldmakeagreatmoviesohepitchedittowarnerbros.
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[] mangomane09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'slikeSpaceJamwasHISAbbeyRoad
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[] modaman123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwaseitherthatorhimdownplayingthesituationiftheplotwenttheotherway.
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[] NikolaTwain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'squiteacomplexfilm.Icanseehowpeoplewouldmissthatonthefirstviewing.
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[] joos1986 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottoobad,noticedyousneakedinasubtle'e'inthereyourself
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Funnelemadepoint!
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[] JDarko23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tunderstandwhatyouguysaresaying.
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Funnilymade
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[] Bluemooses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Subtly*
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[] wde4au undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit.
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[] ApeTit4TwoHundred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude
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[] analblowjob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lol,nailedit.
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Didyougethalfachubbywhenyousawachancetosayliterally?
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[] notgayinathreeway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedidn'tsayliterally.
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[] OhioGozaimasu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Literally.
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Ididjustreadingit.NothinglikealegitimateuseofthewordamidstaseaoftumblrinaliteralersonReddit
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[] AlexPeggy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndIalsothinkthatheowedalotofmoney,anddidn'tpayitbacknotbecausehewasbroke,butbecausehewastooproudtopayit
off.Hethoughthewastoofamoustohavetodealwithit.
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IthinkChamillionaireistheonlyonewhoreallyknowsthetruth.
SomebodycallJa!!WeneedtoknowwhatJaRulethinksaboutallthis.
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ImetChamillionaireandhewasatotalasshole.
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Ohmygodthisisterrible!Cansomebodyplease,findJaRule!GetholdofthismotherfuckersoIcanmakesenseofallthis!
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I'msorry.It'sanopenandshutcase,Johnson..
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Nonono.
He'sthebiggestdrawontheplanet.Ifyoudon'twanthimpunishedyousimplydon'tpunishhim.Makingupahugeproductionto
"secretly"punishhimismoronic.
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He'sthebiggestdrawintheworldofathleticssoifnewsbreaksthathebetagainsthimselfinthefewgamestheBullslostduring
thatera,youwouldhavetheNBAapocalypseonyourhands.TheNBAcan'tsurvivethatkindofnewssotheywereforcedto
secretlypunishJordanforputtingtheentireleagueinsuchaposition.
Sothetheorygoesatleast.
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[] why_rob_y undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,thistheoryiscrazy.IfyouwanttosecretlypunishMJ,yousecretlyfinehimorsomething.Youdon'tkickyourmealticketoutof
theleague.
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[] datlat24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nope.
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[] treycartier91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Solidargumentthere.
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[] FlandreHon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwaswatchingspacejamtheotherday.Isthisthereasonheisplayingbaseballthere?
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[] DavidHJ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itmirrorshisrealcareertrajectory.Hewonbacktobacktobackchampionships(thefirstThreepeat)in91,92,and93.Afterthe'93
championship,heannouncedhisretirementandspenttheentiretyofthe'93'94basketballseasonplayingfortheBirmingham
Barons,aminorleaguebaseballteamaffiliatedwiththeWhiteSox.Hehadlimitedsuccess,assuggestedbySpaceJam,and
midwaythroughthe'94'95seasonheunretiredandannouncedhisreturntotheNBA.TheBullsdidn'tmakeitoutofthefirstround
oftheplayoffsthatyear,buthisfirstfullseasonback('95'96)heledtheBullstothebestregularseasonrecordinNBAhistory(72
10,stillstandingunlesstheWarriorskeepdoingwhatthey'redoing)andsubsequentlywonchampionshipsin96,97,and98the
secondThreepeat.Hethenpromptlyretiredagain.Until2001,whenhewassignedbytheWashingtonWizardsaftertheirGM,an
explayernamedMichaelJordan,decidedhisteamneedalittlemoredepthandwasabletowoothegreatoneoutofretirement.He
playedtwoseasonswiththembeforeretiringforthethirdandfinal(?)time.
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Whatifhehadimmediatelybecomeanawesomebaseballplayeranddecidedtokeepdoingit?Whatifhehadrejectedthesuggestion
ofpunishmententirelyandjustquitbasketball?Theleaguefrontofficewouldhavehadtohavebeencompleteidiotstodeliberatelyrun
theriskoflosingJordan.Thisisjustoneofthosethingsthatseemplausible,butlackanysubstanceapartfromsometenuous
circumstantialevidence.
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Peopledon'twalkonbaseballfieldintheirmid30's?andbecomeawesomebaseballplayers(relativetopro's),notevenMJ.
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Peopledon'tbecomepromotorcycleracersintheir50's
Knowwhotried?Michael.
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Megapropsforhimgivingitashot,andinrealityhewasprobablyREALLYgoodatbaseball(andmotoracing)justnot
goodenoughtocompeteatthehighestlevels.
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Whytaketheriskthough?Evenifhewasn'tawesome,hecouldhavebeengoodenoughthathedecidedtopursueitfurther.
Ifanyonecouldhavedoneit,itwouldhavebeenthatguy.
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Youdon'tgettothepinnacleofaprosport(oranythingreally)withoutthekindofpersonalitythatdrivesyoutoseekout
challenges.ItotallyagreethatifanyonecoulditwouldbethekindofathletethatMJwas/is.Therewasalotoftalk
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aboutMarioLemieuxmakingarunatprogolfwhenhewaspotentiallyforcedtoretireinhockey.
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thisismostlikelycorrect.
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Untilyoulookatallofthefacts.HisdadlovedbaseballandwantedMichaeltopursueitinsteadofbasketball.Hisdadhadjustdiedand
Michaelwantedtohonorhimby
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[] NattyDread10K undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wheneverthere'saneatandtidystorylikethat,Ican'thelpbutshakemyhead.It'slikehearingapoliticianmidcareersay"I'm
steppingdowntospendmoretimewithmyfamily".Sureyouarebuddy.
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I'massumingyouhaven'tlosteitherofyourparents.IlostbothwhenIwasyoung.Honoringhisdadbyplayingprofessional
baseball,something.00001%ofpeoplecando,assuredlymadeMichaelfeelagreatsenseofaccomplishment.Andyour
logicisfaultyatbest.Apoliticianwhostepsdownto"spendtimewiththeirfamily"goesfrommakingatonofmoneytomaking
none.MichaelJordanwasstillmakingmillions.Youcanbelievewhatyouwantbutthefactssayheplayedbaseballbecause
ofhisfather.Thereisliterally0evidencethatMJleftbecauseofgambling.Itwasallspeculation.
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Couldn'tsomeonemakingmillionscoverupanuglystory?Whynot?Jordanhadawidelyknowngamblingproblemand
thenhisdadgetsrandomlymurderedoneday.Andwecan'taskANYquestions?Bytheway,thisisaconspiracy
thread.Ithoughtwewereallowedtogetcrazy.
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Peoplegetrandomlymurderedallthetime.Celebritiesandtheirfamiliesarenotimmunetothecrazypeopleof
theworld.Aftermurderinghisdad,thetwoguysusedhiscellphonetomakecalls.That'showtheywerecaught.
You'retellingmethatsomeonehiredtomakeahit,someonewholikelywouldhavepreviousexperienceinthe
field,wouldbedumbenoughtousethevictim'scellphoneafterwards?Notachance.It'smorelikelythathewas
inthewrongplaceatthewrongtimewhenacoupleofthugsranuponhim.Andyou'reallowedtoaskallthe
questionsyouwant.Butthethreadisaboutconspiracytheoriesthatareprobablytrueandthisoneprobablyisn't.
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HeymanImnotclaimingtoknowwhathappened.Ijustthinkit'snotwhatthey'retellingus.Youknowwhat
theysay,truthisstrangerthanfiction.Itcouldbe10xcrazierthanwhatyouwrote.Hisretirementmightnot
haveanythingtodowithhisdadorgamblingbutIjustknowsomethingsup.LionelMessiisthetopsoccer
playerintheworldandisinhisprimerightnow.Currentlyheisfacingsomelegaltroubleregardingunpaid
taxes.Whatifheretiredtomorrow,goesonTVandsayshismomissickorwhatever.Youwouldbuyit?If
Obamasteppeddowntoday,youwouldn'tthinksomethingwasfishy?Richpeoplecoverupuglymessesall
thetimetosavetheirimage.Butaccordingtoyou,it'snotpossiblefortherichestathletetocoverupwhyhe
droppedeverythingoutofnowhere.
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[] squashedbananas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sonaturallywhenyouhearhoofbeats,youthinkzebras?
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Thisisaconspiracythreadright?We'reallowedtogetcrazy.
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[] squashedbananas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Crazyindeed.Ijustthinkit'sweirdthatyoualwayssuspectsomethingwheneveryouhearasimpleexplanation.
Byyourownwords.
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WellIguesswejusthavetoagreetodisagree.Iquestioneverythingthegovtdoes.That'sjusthowIam.I
justdon'ttrustthem.Ican'tgetintoithereinthecommentssectionbutIjustdon't.
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[] thjeco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Occam'srazor,myfriend.
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[] DiplomaticDiplodocus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howis"secretgamblingsuspensionplusmassivecoveruptohidesaidsuspension"moreOccam'srazor?
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[] thjeco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineversaiditwas.Mypointwaswhatreallyhappendisobviouslycorrect.
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[] Clifford996 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistotallytrue
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Iprefertothinkheretiredbecausehisdaddiedandhisdadlovedbaseball,buttheLooneyTunesbroughthimback.
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[] ihahp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
orhebasicallyhadnoplacetogo.ImagineifTigerleftthesportwhilehewasontop?
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[] AsjadSalman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughthequitbaseballbecausethelooneytoonsneededhishelpagainstthemonstars?
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[] TheKidWithBieberHair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
.....whataboutgolf?
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[] Razygriz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Monstars=monsters.HOLYFUCK!Howdidijustgetthat?!
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Whatthemoviedidn'ttellyouwasthatheowedthelooneytunesandSwackhammermoneysoitwasawholeschemetopayback
onegroupandgetridoftheother.
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[] lifeiskuso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SpaceJamwasadocumentary.
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[] nancyfromscrubs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sombodygivethismansomedamngold!
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[] FliGuyRyan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sostrange...
IliterallyjustwatchedthismovieforthefirsttimeinmylifetodaywithmykidsandI'm30.
Ofalldays...
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[] Smittx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Looneytunes*
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[] Jay444111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenafterthathebecameaBballnarcafterCharlesBarkleyperformedachaosdunkwhichdestroyedNewYork...
Trustme.It'scanon.
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[] MonStars undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
canconfirm,thisistrue
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Ahyes,IthinkIsawadocumentaryaboutthat.
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[] Grintor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknowthewebsiteisstillupafteralltheseyears?http://www.warnerbros.com/archive/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
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[] MrCrucial undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LooneyTunesMandellaEffectconspiracy
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[] DICKOVENS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ijustfuckinglostitsohard
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[] ComeonEillien undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthat'swhattheyWANTyoutobelieve.Itwasallacleverrusetomakeusbelieveinthelifeonotherplanetsordimensions.It
waslikethemoonlanding.Hollywoodgobbledygook.
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[] TreX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SpoilerAlert.Thanks.Neverseenthewholemovie.
Ialwaysjustwatchtheopeningcreditsforthemusic.
Greatest.Song.Ever.
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[] rochford77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Larry'snotwhite.....he'sclear.
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[] Spikrit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sboth:MIBmadeadealwithhimtoclearallhisdebtsifhehelpedtosavetheplanet.
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[] ZoSoSoSo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm.ItwasthefirstdocumentaryI'veeverseen.MJdidsomecrazystuff.
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[] EpicChiguire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TILthatJordanplayedattheMLBaswell.Superbathlete.
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[] prefinality undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TILEpicChiguireisnotfromtheUS
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I'mnotintheUS,forIameverywhere.That'swhyI'manEpicChiguire.
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[] II_Shwin_II undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*MinorLeague
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[] tlozada undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tneedthis...
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[] soccerburn55 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itactuallywasanbiopic.Littleknowfact.Themoreyouknow.
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[] djscrambledeggs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyeah,that'swhyhereturnedtobasketball,butgamblingwasthereasonhehadtoleaveitinthefirstplace.
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[] Jesufication undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthatwaswhyhequitgolf.
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Hestillplaysapparentlyandhisgamblinghasnotdiminished.
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[] sp_555 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SawhimplayinginPortlandORafewyearsago.BettergolferthanI,that'sforsure.
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[] cantRYAN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeaMJ'shandicapissupposedly4(meaninghisaveragegameis4strokesoverpar).That'sprettygood.From
whatI'vereadaboutJordan,he'snotaboutthemoneyasmuchashejustcraveswinning.He'sextremely
competitive.Histeammatestalkabouthimbettingoneverythingandanything(who'sbagwouldcomeoffthe
team'sjetfirstetc).I'vealwaysbelievedthisconspiracy.ThereisalsospeculationthatMJsfather'smurderwas
linkedtohisgambling.
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[] oneshifttwoshift undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisisthecorrectanswer
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Anotherleveltotheconspiracyistoprovidearidiculousconspiracysothatfurtherconspiraciesarecomparedatthesamevalue.
UnfortunatelyliterallyanythingismoreprobablethanLooneyToonssoitsortofhadtheoppositeeffect.
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[] Bruce_G 3344points
Toaddtothisone,MichaelJordan'sdaddidn'tdieinarandomcrimeitwasahitbyabookieMichaelrefusedtopayoff.
Putyourselfintheshoesofabookie.Michaelisagreatcustomermillionsinbetsovertheyearsandsolfcourseyouaren'ta
sticklerabouthimpayingyoubackeverythingheowesyourightaway.Hebuildsupasizeableamountthatheowes,butsomething
happens(youandhimhaveapersonalconflict,helosesbigononeparticularbetandbalksatthetotalamountheneedstobalancehis
account,theleaguecracksdownonhisassociationswithgamblers,etc.)anditbecomesapparenthe'snevergoingtopayitallback.
Whatdoyoudo?Howdoyou"sendamessage"toanarrogantassholeyoucan'tdirectlytouch?
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Exceptitwasn't.Therewasatrialofthetwoyougmenwhokilledhimwithevidenceandallthatboringstuff.Butsureitwasa
bookiehit.
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[] CupICup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thinktheguywhotheycaughtwouldsaythatbynow..Ifheisntdeadalready
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[] hector92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
exceptweknowthe2guysthatkilledhisdad.theycertainlyweren'thitmen.
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Thatoneisprettyridiculousagainstthedetailsofthecrimethough.
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Butwhat'stostopJordanfromgoingpublicandputtingthebookieonblast.Hecan'ttouchMichael.Atworsthegetssuspended
frombasketball.
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[] Gentlescholar_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatevidenceforthisisthereexceptthathisdaddied?
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[] NewOrleansNinja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FoundtheItalian.
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[] dendybarthemottled undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthatdoesn'tmakeawholelotofsenseifyouaskme.Jordanisliterallyabillionaire.Ifsomefuckingbookiekilledmydad,I
wouldn'tbe"scared".I'dbeangry.I'dbe"let'sdrop$50milliononhiringaMexicancartel'sdeathsquadtokillthatbookieand
everyoneheevensaidhitoonthestreet"angry.
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Howdoeskillingasuperwealthyathlete'sfathermakehimpay?Wouldn'titbescariertomakehiscar'sbrakesmalfunctionsothat
itwouldonlyinjurehim?Howaboutjustkillingacloserelative'sdogorcatandleavingitskinnedonthewelcomemat?Surely
Michaelwouldgetthemessagethen?
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[] PerpetualGazebo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'salotofwhatifs
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Themurdererswerecaughtandputontrial.Nothingaboutgamblingevercameup.
SotheNorthCarolinaDAisinonyourconspiracynow?
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[] ModularToil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EnslavetheLooneyTunes?
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[] Craggy1212 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthoughtJordan'sdaddiefromahitbyLasVegas.TherewerealotofmoneyontheBullsinthefinalsvstheSuns.Insteadof
losing,Jordantooktheteamtovictory.IwasaroundmyUnclesandallwerelocalbookies.AlmostallthecashcameinfortheBulls.
Idon'tbelieveabookiehasenoughpulltoputsuchahitonJordan'sdadwithoutheavypublicity.Whoevercalledthehithadthe
powertoputouttheflamesquick.
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Youmurderhisfather.
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Citationbcthatsnotwhatcourtdocssay.
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Jordanhadabadhabitofnotpayingpeoplewhoheowedmoneyto.
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[] Vamking12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mafiaconnectionsconfirmed?
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[] TheBigTimer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisMJconspiracyisamazingIseriouslyneverhearditbefore.Itotallysubscribetothistheory.
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[] playblu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JibeswithwhatI'veheardthatJordanisanincrediblewelcheronbets.Hebeatsyou,youhavetopayrightaway.Youbeathim,he
whinesandbitchesandmoansandneverpaysup.Thatshitworkswithyourgolfbuddiesbutnotorganizedcrime.
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[] phulbarg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoyoudo?Howdoyou"sendamessage"toanarrogantassholeyoucan'tdirectlytouch?
Icertainlydon'tkillhisfatherinawaywherenooneexceptloonsseriouslythinkIhadanythingtodowithit,becausethatwouldbe
expensiveandriskywhilehavingnoeffectonhowothersconductedbusinesswithme.
IfMJreallydidgamblingit'sfairtosaythathisbookiedidn'tgooutthereandannounceitpublicly.Thebookiewouldhavebeeninit
forthebusinessitselfandsecrecywouldbepartofwhatwouldberequired.Sendingamessagewouldbepointlessbecausenoone
knewthatMJranfromhisdebt.
Theonlythingabookiecouldhopewouldbegetpaidtheirmoneyback,butforthatkillinghisdadisgoingwaytoofar.Atthatpoint
youmakesurehewillneverpayyouback.Blackmailhimwithtellingonhim,destroyhisproperty,andifnoneofthatworks
escalatingphysicalenforcementactionscouldbecarriedout.HoweveritwouldbeveryhardandriskytodophysicalharmtoMJor
someoneclosetohim,sooutsideofamovieIdon'tthinkanysizeablebookiewouldtryit.
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[] ilostmypassword2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisisbasicallywhathappened.
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[] Titanosaurus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisdaddyinginsomedarkrestareaofftheinterstate,executionstyle.That'ssomefuckedupshit.
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[] redroverdover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itdefinitelywasntrandom.
also...neitherwasBillCosby'sson.
Bothwerehits.
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[] rkk2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisisoneofthosethatmakessenseuntilyouactuallylookatit(fulldisclosure,I'maBullsfan).
SoMichael,oneofthewealthiestathletesontheplanet,istoldhisdadisgoingtodie(I'massumingtheywouldatleastgivea
warning)andhejustlet'sithappen?
IfMichaelisabigofgamblerastheysaythenthebookiewasprobablystillintheblackwithhim.Youkillawhalesdadandloseout
onanyprofitoveronebet?
Despitethehandlingofthecase,theguytheycaughtwasstillinvolved.Whythehellwouldtheystealstufffromthecarifitwasa
hit.
ThewholethingisapurespeculationandevenasaBillSimmons(Idon'tknowifhecameupwiththetheorybutheiswhoIfirst
readitfrom)it'sabitofadickmove."HeyMichaelIdon'thaveanyconcreteevidencebuthereisanarticleabouthowyouhelped
getyourdadkilled!"Kindoffuckedupifyouthinkaboutit.
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Thisisgreatspeculation.Toobadyoudon'tpresentafractionofashredofevidence
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[] justonemorevodka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'vepeekedmyinterest.Ineverthoughtaboutitfromthispointofview.
I'vebeenlivinginabubble.
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[] boognish21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaysthoughtitwasweirdthatthegreatestathleteofalltimelosthisfatherinaseeminglyrandomincident.
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[] meroes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkevenJordanwouldrathersacrificehiscareerandgotothepoliceinthisscenario.
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[] Malemansam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisfunnybecauseMichaelisnotoriousforbeingstingyinpayingpeople.Itjustaddstotheconspiracy.
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[] donttrytopost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow,neverheardhis,Googledit..crazy.
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[] mulberrytotherescue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasonlyrecentlymadeawareofthistheorybutitmakessomuchsense.
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[] Derwos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknow,Iknow!Byprovingthatyoudon'tdeservehismoneybykillingfamilymembers!
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Also,whenJordan"retired"soonafterhisdadwaskilled,hesaidthathewantedhisdadtohaveseenhislastgame.Apparentlyhis
opiniononthatchangedinthenext18months.
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[] thehollowman84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouwantmoneyfromsomeone,youdon'tkilltheirdad!Whywouldyoucommitsuchahighprofilemurder?IfyouwereMJwould
yougivemoneytosomeonewhomurderedyourdad?
Noyou'dcallthefuckingFBIandthey'dnailthatsonofabitch,andyou'dneverhavetopayhimback.
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[] Itz_x undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
In20yearsJordan'sgoingtoconfirmallthisistrueinsomebook.Howeverbasketballsgonnabe20yearsdeadbythen
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[] DeathsIntent96 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BasketballhasthemostlongevityofanyofthemajorAmericansports,byfar.
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[] Jeremy252 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howeverbasketballsgonnabe20yearsdeadbythen
lol
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[] caffeineme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butifthathappened,couldn'tsomeoneashighprofileasMJturnthetideandcalloutthebookiesasmurderers?Nomatterhow
dirtyMJsgamblingmayhavebeen,itpalesincomparisontomurderingafamilymemberoveradebt.
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[] eastbaytray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilivetenmilesfromthespotthathisdaddied.Icanassureyouitwastworandomlocalswhosawhimsleepingbesidetheroadin
oneofthemostdangerouscountiesinAmerica.
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[] wonderband undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whywashesleepingbesidetheroad
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[] Neolife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pulledofflateatnight.Tootiredtodrive,sohefellasleepinthecar.Lumbertonisn'texactlyahavenofgoodhotels.My
dadalsoacceptstherobberystory,havingtaughtoneofthemurderersandknowingwhatthatkidwascapableof.
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[] eastbaytray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,I'mpositivethattheyhadnoideawhotheykilled.Atthetimeofthemurderthatparticularstorewasliterally
inthemiddleofnowhere.
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AlsoifaproathletetakesoutMoorethan10Ktheyhavetodisclosewhattheydidwiththemoney.Likebuyingacarhouseetc.Ifhe
owedmillionshewouldhavetoguitplayingproballforayear.Ialsoheardtheytoldhimifhedidn'tpayhiskidswerenext.
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[] hurf_mcdurf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WouldpartiallyexplainthatMichaelis,byallappearances,asoullessbastardsincehiscareerended.
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[] wiiarethesound undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhavealinktomoreinformationonthis?Myinterestispiqued.
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[] FR_STARMER undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Poopinhisshoes?
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[] CumcastXXXfinity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheonlyissueIhadwiththistheoryiswhataboutthetwoguysthatwenttojailforthemurder?Whatwasinitforthemtotakepart
andtakethepunishment?Plus,aren'ttheyahugeriskforsquealing?
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Mystepdadwasinjailwiththem.Hewastherefordomesticviolence.Woohoo!I'mpracticallyacelebrity.
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[] Napoleon98 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theirfamiliesgetmillions,AFTERthey'veservedthetime...Iftheytellanyonetoosoontheydon'tgetthemoney,iftheytell
anyonelatertheygetkilled.Imeanclearlyhe'dfollowthroughsincehejustoff'dMJ'sdad
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IlivedinChicagoduringthistime,anditwaswidelyacceptedthatthetwoguysfoundoldmanJordan'sbodyandstolea
ringIthink?butweren'tresponsibleforhisdeath.
Also,Ineedtobevaguehere,butImethimseveraltimesviaamarketinggigforaproductheendorsed,andhe'safucking
cock.Backintheday,inthecity,youwouldoccasionallyseehisSUVparkedovernightatrandomplaceswherehewife
wasn't.Thewholemediaestablishmentinthecitycoveredforhisbehavior.
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Theguysadmittedkillinghimonvideo.
AldomydadshotcommercialsinChicagofor30years.Michaelwashisfavoritetoworkwithbecausehewasso
professional.WalterPeytonwasracistagainstwhitepeople.ScottiePippenwasa"mope".PhilJacksonwascool,buta
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little"outthere".RyneSandbergwasa"mope".SeanDunstonwasanasshole.TomSkillingwascool.The'85Bears
wereprettycool(butDaveDuersonwasanasshole).MikeDitkawasanasshole,buteasytoworkwith.
Jordandidcheatonhiswife,buteveryoneinChicagoknewtheywereforcedtogetmarriedbytheNBAbecauseit
wasn'tgoodhavinganunmarriedsuperstarwithkids.
(AndwhywouldtheNBAallowagamblertobuyateam?Anownerfoundfixinggamescouldbringthewholeleague
down.)
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Mydadtaughtoneoftheguysthatwerechargedwiththekilling.Hebelievesthatthekidwouldhavekilledaperson,
butdescribedthekidasprettydumb.Heprobablydidn'tknowwhohehadkilleduntilafterthefact.Highlylikelyitwasa
robberygonesouth,asdescribed.
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[] aptla undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LivinginChicagointhemid90s...Tellmemore.
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[] SmittyWerbenjager1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineedtobevaguehere
"ABritWithGoodTeeth"...shouldn'tbetoohardtotrackyoudown.
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[] ProjectKushFox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodthinghe'sBritishandhasthatsweetgovernmenthealthinsurancecausehe'sheadedstraightfortheburn
ward
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Allbookieshavemuscle.Theygetacutofthedebtonceitispaid.Itsnothingdifferentthenalltheotherintimidationthatgoes
oninthatworld.ThereasontheykilledisbecausetheydebtwashugeandtheycouldntdirectlygobreakJordan'slegs.
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[] GigaJuice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1. Thejusticesystemisfarfromperfect.IfMichaelJordan'sfatheriskilled,somebodyisgoingtojail.Guiltyornot.
2. Ifyou'rearichmobster,youhireaguytohireaguytohiresomethugstodothejob.Asmanylayersinbetweenthe
crimeaspossibletoavoiditbeingtrackedbacktoyou.
3. Thethugswereprobablypaidfortheirservicesandpossiblydon'tknowwhoto"squeal"on.
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TheguyswerecaughtwithJamesJordan'spropertyandnothingaboutgamblingevercameupattheirtrial.
WhywouldtheDAbepartofyourconspiracy?
(AndwhywouldtheNBAletasuspendedgamblerbuyateam?)
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Itisamurdertrial.Notagamblingtrial.Itwouldbehardtoresistrobbingtheobviouslywealthyman.TheDAisn't
apartofanything.MichaelJordanisn'tontrialandtheconspiracydoesn'tnecessarilyimplyMichaeldidanything
wrongotherthangambleandnotpayhisdebts.Hedidn'tbreakanylaws.
Andwhyletasuspendedgamblerbuyateam?He'sMichaelFuckingJordan.Hecandowhathewants.
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TheirmotivewouldbetokillJamesoverMichael'sgamblingdebt.That'salotstrongermotivethansimple
robberywheretheykilledhimbecausetheyarejustshittypeople.
But,inyourtheory,theDAwithholdsevidenceandweakenstheircasejusttokeepMichael'snameclean?
Makesnosense.
Andno,theywouldn'tletagamblerbeanowner.Anownerfoundtobefixinggamescouldbringdownthe
wholeleague.
TheymadeSterlingsellbecauseheimpliedhedidn'tlikeblackpeople.
Yourtheoryisbadandyoushouldfeelbad.
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TheirmotiveistokillsJames.Asiswhattheywereprobablypaidfor.Thethugsdon'tgiveafuck
aboutgamblingordebts.Theyprobablydon'tevenknowaboutthatstuff.Theyjustknowsomeone
said,"I'llgiveyou$xxtodothis".Youdon'thireahitmanandgivehimabunchofunnecessary
informationaboutthecrime.
MichaelisaknownHUGEgamblerandgeneralscumbagyethestillwasabletobuypartofateam
becauseheisMichaelFuckingJordan.Michaelwouldbetonifhisturdswouldsinkorfloat.Lookit
up.TosayMichaelJordanisn'tagamblerandtheNBAwouldn'tletgamblersownateammeansyou
havenoIdeawhatyou'retalkingaboutbecausetheyletMichaelJordanownateam.
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Buttheydidn'tknowwhotheykilleduntilafterhewasdead.Theymadeavideoafterwards
braggingaboutit.Thisallcameoutattrial.Youshouldgoogleittogetaclueofwhatyouare
talkingabout.
Andyeah,Jordanbetsonroundsofgolf,whodoesn't?Butheneverbetonbasketballbecause
that'sthekindofshitthatgetsyouthrownoutoftheleagueforlife.
YouthinkMLBwouldletPeteRosebuyabaseballteam?Bestplayerofhisera,morehitsthan
anyoneelse,andtheywon'tevenlethiminthehalloffame.
You'rehatredfromgettingyourasskickedfortwodecadeshasblindedyoutocommonsense.
Thiswouldbethesportsstoryofthedecadeandnoseriousjournalisthaswrittenanything
aboutit.
(AndwhywouldtheNBAsuspendedhiminsecret?Thatwouldn'tsendawarningtoanyone
else.
TheNFLdidn'thesitatetosuspendTomBrady,infacttheywentafterhimharderthannormal.)
Useyourbrain.Thismakesnosenseatall.
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MydadtaughtoneofthetwokidswhokilledMichaelJordan'sfather.Hedescribedthatstudentaslazy,almosttotally
incompetent,andextremelyantiauthority.Heprobablyhadnorealcluewhohehadkilleduntilafterthefact.
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[] vuhv undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatother"probably's"areyougoingtothrowatus?
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[] sublimedjs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iliveinthetownthathisfatherwaskilledinandtheorieshaverunrampantforyearsthisplacewassocorruptintheearly90s
thisisagreatarticlethattalksaboutthecorruptioninRobesoncountyusingtheJordancaseasafocalpoint.
http://www.maryellenmark.com/text/magazines/gq/906S000006.html
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I'mactuallyfromRobesoncountyaswell
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[] gamingchicken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"AnytimeyoulookdownthestreetandyouseeablackandanIndianguy,you'vegotcrime."
Wellthat'sgettingstraighttothepoint.
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[] fgjones001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WasinPembrokethatithappenedin?
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Rightnearthere.MydadtaughtatPembrokeJr.High,andtaughtoneofthetwowhowerechargedwiththe
murder.Saidhetotallybelievesthatkiddidit,andthatitwasamesseduprobbery,asdescribed.Thekidwas
apparentlynotverybrightandprettyopposedtoauthority,atleastinschool.
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[] mightyhue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source:Iwasthecourtreporterforthe2monthtrial.Thetwokidswererandomthugsanddidn'tknowwho
itwas.Mr.JordanwastakinganaponthesideofI74withhiswindowpartiallydown.theyweregoingto
robhimbutoneofthethugspoppedhim.onekidturnedstate'sevidenceagainsttheotherandtestified
againsttheshooter.bothgotlife
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[] DeadBabyDick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whothehelltakesanaponthesideofaninterstate?
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[] sublimedjs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ibelievethemurdertookplacerightoffI95outsideoflumberton
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u/turtletime25knowsalotaboutLumberton
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[] fgjones001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohok,allIsawnearthebeginningofthatarticlewasUS74,andIknow74goestoPembroke,butwasn't
sureifitwenttoLimbertonaswell.InfromWadesboro
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Damn.HowhaveIneverseenthatbefore?
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[] Robobot1747 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatwasinitforthemtotakepartandtakethepunishment?
Theywereprobablyhitmen.Hiredformoney.
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Hiredhitmenprobablydon'tmakecallsonthecellphoneoftheirvictim.Dumbpeoplewhoaretryingtogetsomequick
moneydo.Mydadtaughtoneofthemurderersandsaidhewasadumbkidwhowasprettyopposedtoauthority.
Doesn'tdoubtthattheywerejusttryingtorobsomeoneandithappenedtobeJamesJordan,orthattheydidn'tknow
whoitwasuntilaftertheyhadkilledhim.
Healsohadastudentwhowasarrestedtryingtorobabankviathedrivethruwindow.
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[] Dan_Ashcroft undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyhadalotofloyaltyforhiredguns
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[] is_this_wifi_organic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'reabigguy
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[] BanesHenchman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nothingwrongwithbeingahiredgun.
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[] KingDoink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydon'tknowwhotoraton.TheBookiehassomeonehiresomeoneelseto"scare"theguy.Sonowyou'retwo
partiesremoved.Theguyprobablydidn'tisafullorrealnamewhenherhiredtheguys.Andjusttoscare
someoneanyonedesperateformoneywilldo.
Theyprobablydidn'twanttogotomurder,butwhenyouhirejustanyonedesperateformoney,thingscangetout
ofhandeasily.
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[] vuhv undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iloveyourliberaluseof"probably"
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[] CumcastXXXfinity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenifthatwerethecase,theseguyswouldhavesomeconsiderableleverageoverwhoeverorderedthem,assuming
thatpersonexists.
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[] donezoed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
intheReasonableDoubtarticlesublimedjspostedaboveoneoftheboyshintsthathe/hisfamilywasthreatened
shouldhetalk.
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[] GCARNO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouhaveseenanymobmovie,theirfamiliesaretakencareofforlife.Gettingpinchedisanonthejobhazard.
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[] steel_shot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Untilthemoneyrunsout.
Beyatethosemurders.
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TheyATEthemurders?
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[] Wulife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leakingthatstorytothemediawouldprobablybeeasierthankillinghisdad
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[] croc_lobster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notnecessarily.Leakingastorylikethatprobablydrawsalotofheatdownonyou.
Thatsaid,Idon'tknowshitaboutunderworldbookies,andinalllikelihood,thiswasjustacompletelyrandomcrime.
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Lol,right?
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noonewouldhavetoucheditinthe90s.Who'sgonnarunit?Thesportingnews?SI?Sportsjournalistsknewbetter
thananyonenottotouchthegeesethatlaythoseeggs.
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Youwouldleakastorythatcantbeproven?Ordoyoumeantosaythatthebookieshouldleakitinawaythatcanbe
proven?BecausetoproveitwouldgetthebookieinwaymoretroublethanJordan.
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[] SportTheFoole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whynotputhimonapaymentplan?Aweeklyvigwouldbewaybetterthangettingtheentireprinciplenow.Jackingituptomurder
ofathirdpartyseemsalittleexcessiveforanonpayment.
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Jordanisthetypeofguytomakeabet,losesaidbet,andthenconvincehimselfhenevermadeitandwasn'tgoingtopay.
Heissocompetitivethathewouldberateandpunchteammates.Theywouldn'tfightbackbecausehewasMJ.Creatingfake
memoriesiswaybelowviolenceonthedickmovemeter.Healsowouldhavetheabilitytoignoresomeonewhowantedto
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seehim.
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You'reassumingmurderwasthefirstoption.Maybethebookiesuggestedothermethodstonoavail.
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[] Sveaters undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotlikeJordandidn'thavethemoney,hejustwasn'tgoingtopayhim.Heisalsoahugedickandaniconwhowasreally
stubborn.I'dassumeoncehemadeupthedecisionnottopay,hewantgoingtopay.
Allthatsaid,Idon'tknowIfIbelievetherumor.IfSternwassuspendinghimfor2years,whyevenhaveasuspensionifhe
wantgoingtotellanybody?Jordanalsocamebackandplayedin95playoffs,ifotherteams/ownerswereinvolved,Iseriously
doubttheywouldcoolwiththebestplayerintheworldcomingbackfortheplayoffs.
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[] MediumSizedTurtle 1864points
AndthenSterncan'tdirectlyattackhimandsuspendhimforgamblingbecausehe'sliterallythebiggeststarintheworld,sothey
hadtodosomethingunderthetabletopunishhim.ThisisoneofthosestoriesthatI'dkilltogetthetruthabout,butnobodywillever
reallyknow.
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WouldyoukillMichaelJordan'sdadtolearnthetruth?...errr
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[] Mopso undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenephewofRonHarperisinr/oldschooliscoolthreadofthe90sBulls,hesaidhewastryingtodoanAMAwithhim.
There'syourchance.
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[] Grab_a_Snickers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
he'sliterallythebiggeststarintheworld
"TheworldendsatAmerica'sbordersinmyreality"
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[] iamgory undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notintheworld.JustinAmerica.Mostoftheworlddoesn'tknowanythingaboutbasketballbutcouldnamefarmoresoccer
players.
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Youthinkit'llalwaysbeamystery?Maybebecauseofthetimes.Butcertainlyinthisdayandagethelikelihoodofkeeping
somethinglikethishushhushmightbealmostimpossible.
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[] skazzbomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyonlyproblemwiththatargumentisthatMichaelPhelpswasthebiggestOlympicchampionever,butgotsuspendedfor
somethingthat'slegal/semilegalin1/2thestates.Idon'tthinkthere'sa"Toobigtofail"mentalitywhenitcomestoathletes.
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[] Seandelier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EvenwhenhewassettingOlympicrecords,Phelps'famewasabsolutelynothingcomparedtoJordaninhisprime.
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[] skazzbomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Phelps'famewasveryquick,andveryshortlived.That'sthedifferenceIthink.Jordanhadtimetoestablish
himself,whereasPhelpskindajustburstontothesceneandwasinvolvedinthe"scandal(s)"beforethenext
olympicstookplace.Justthenatureofthegame,sotospeak.
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TheNFLhadnoproblemgoingafterBrady.
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Infacttheymadeshituptogoafterhimharder.
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[] Cymry_Cymraeg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thebiggeststarintheworld
Hewasn't.AmericansreallyoverplayhowbigadealhewasoutsidetheUS.
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[] Cudderisback28 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButwouldyoukillMichaelJordan'sdadtofindout?
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I'dkillthehelloutofthatzombie.Winwin
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No,notliterally,youuninterestingsackofmemespewingshit
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Wow,somuchhate.Yes,literally.Hewasknownthroughtheentireworld.Hugehitinternationally.I'mfromChicago,
andwhenItraveledthroughChina,I'dsayI'mfromChicagoandeveryonewouldinstantlygo"ohJordan!"
AlsonothingIsaidwasmeme,socalmyourtitsfriend.
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[] Cymry_Cymraeg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chinaisn'ttheentireworld.
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Idunno.WefoundoutaboutCosby.
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[] 43W1n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
perhapsyoushouldkill
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[] Misterandrist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisoneofthosestoriesthatI'dkilltogetthetruthabout,butnobodywilleverreallyknow.
IwillPMyouwiththedetails.
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[] hustl3tree5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhaveadocuicanwatch?
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[] super_pickle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JordanRidestheBus.
Thisconspiracytheoryisprettyridiculous,theleaguewouldn't"secretlypunish"it'sbiggeststarthat'srakinginbillionsof
dollarsforthem.Therewouldbeliterallynoreason.Iftheycancoveruphisgambling(whichtheydidn't,everyone
alwaysknewJordanwasagambler)whybotherpunishinghimandlosingrevenue?AndJordanRidestheBustalks
abouthisyearsinbaseballandwhyhejoined.
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[] bawlz_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldyoukillhisdadtofindoutthetruth?
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[] chironomidae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"AlrightIkilledaguytolearnthetruth,whatisit?"
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"Ah,nahJordanjustwantedachangeandhisdad'sdeathreallywasrandom.Thanksforthatfreehitjobtho."
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[] LouieWilfred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohyou'dkillwouldyou?Hmmminteresting...WhereexactlywereyouonthenightofJuly23rd,1993?!?Gotanythingelse
youwannaconfessMediumSizedTurtle.....Ifthat'sevenyourname!
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[] AvatarJuan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
July23rd,1993
Interesting.
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[] LouieWilfred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
July=7
23+7=30
1993
23+7+3=33>>>>>>SCOTTIEPIPPEN
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[] ItchyGoiter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyoufuckyoungboys,Valdez?!
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[] sheven undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myproblemisthisthough:ifhe'stoobigastartopunishinpublic,whyevenpunishhimatall?Allyoudoisloseouton
revenuefrompeoplewhoaren'twatchinganymorebecauseMJisn'tplaying.Iftheguyisthatuntouchable,whatisalittle,
privatesecretofasuspensionreallygoingtodo?
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[] newmellofox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseotherplayers/peopleintheleagueknewsomethingaboutthisandSternhadtosendamessagetoeveryone
intheleague.
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[] vanillapeacecake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alittlelate,butPeterosewassuspendedfrombaseballforlife,Michaelcouldhavepotentiallyfacedsomethingsimilar.
Thenbacouldn'tlosethebiggestsportsstarontheplanetsincetheywerestillbehindbaseball&football&hadjustlost
magic&bird.
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[] basketballjones8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FinallysomethingIcanspeaktoonhere!TheNBAandDavidSterndidnotsuspendhimbecausetheywantedto.Ifully
believethemafiaorsomeChicagosyndicatewenttoSternandNBAandsaidthatMJwasnotonlybettingongamed
butshavingpointsandmanipulatingover/understand.Thishadcostthemmillionsofdollars(howMJhadkepthimself,
friends,andfamilypaid)andthemobgotsickofit.SotheyarrangedameetingandtoldSternthatMJhadtoleavethe
gameforacertainperiodwhiletheyrecoupedtheirlosses.OtherwisetheywouldgotothepressandtheFBIandNBA
wouldbealmostruinedandit'sbiggeststarlikelyheadingforlifeinprisonforfixinggames.
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[] Mareth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TakingMJoffthebasketballcourthurtseveryfiberofhisbeing.
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[] DaRealGeorgeBush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisthe90sequivalentofthetombradyrule.
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[] Quajek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseyouhavetodosomethingorhe'llbeabletowalkalloveryouforever.It'sworthtakingatemporaryhitinorder
tobringthismassivestarbackinline.
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[] TheSaint96 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisreturntheyearafterwouldhavemadetheleaguemoremoneythanifhejuststayedanyways.Yes,peoplewould
havewatchedhisgamesandbuyhismerch,butifhe"retired"andmadeareturnlater,everyoneandtheirmother
wouldbutmjstuffandbullstickets
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[] gdmfr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,youjustkilledafellowgamblersdadfornotpayingup.I'llpayupnow,Iswear.
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[] Omikron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welltheywantedtogivehimaslapinthefacetogethimtochangehisbehavior.
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[] TJD09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkhewasactuallytoobigintheleague'seyesandtheywerepreparedtosuspendhim.Hechosetonegotiate
themovetobaseballbecausehedidn'twanttohurthisbrandbecauseofhowbigitwasandhowconscientioushewas
ofgrowingit.Justmy2cents
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ThenwhywouldtheNBAagreetosuchathing?Iftheywantedtopunishhim,whywouldtheylaylowaboutthe
suspension?
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[] TJD09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausetheyknewabouttheeffecthecarriedwiththebrandoftheleague.Ithinkofitmorelikeajoint
meetingwheretheysaid"Michael,wegottadosomethingaboutthis"anditendedinayearoffinbaseball.
Notnecessarily"wehaveastrictpunishmentwewanttogiveyou"andhetalkeditdowntothat.
Or,he'sjustanegotisticalprickwhothoughthecouldexcelinanythinghedidsoheleftbasketballinthe
primeofhiscareertotrytobeBoJacksonwithzerosuccess.
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Andthereinliestheproblemwiththetheory,andthereasonthatnoneofitreallyhasanylegs.
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[] ChillPenguinX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthiswasColinCowherd'sresponsetotheconspiracy...
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[] comfortablybum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn,Iwasgettingexcitedthatthismightbearealconspiracy,butyoutotallyrainedonthatwithyourlogic.
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[] thegouch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatiftheleaguewasgoingtocomedownwithasuspensionbutMichaelworkedadealthatifhe"quit"forawhilethe
suspensionwouldn'tevenoccuratall.Icouldseeanagentworkingthatdealtopreservehisimage.
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[] punkrawkisneat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itdoesn'thurthisbrandforwhenheinvariablycomesbacktotheNBA.
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[] FALL1NG_KN1FE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotthattheleagueCOULDN'Ttouchhim,it'sthatit'sbetterforbothofthemiftheydidn't.Butasuspensionwould
havehurtMJmoreasitwould'veknockedhislegacyontopofthemoneyit'dlosehim.
Ashehaddonesomuchforthegame,it'splausiblethattheleaguecouldhavegivenhimtheoptiontoleaveforayear
undercircumstancesthatappearedtobeunderhisownterms.
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Theytriedputtinghimondoublesecretprobation,butithadnoeffect.
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That'sthereality.Iupvotedthisonebecauseitwasfuntothinkaboutbutinrealityitdoesn'tmakemuchsense.
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[] SamuelAsante undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*The90sBullswerebetterthaneveryotherteam,becauseofMichaelJordan*Ownersofotherteamssurelyhadan
incentivetokeepMichaeloffthefloor,perhapsgoingasfaraslobbyingforhissuspension*DavidSternmayhave
negotiatedapunishmenttoprivatesuspensionsothattheotherownerswereappeased,andMJslegacywouldremain
intact
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IstoppedwatchingorcaringabouttheNBAafterJordanleft.
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[] Doctor_Worm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itstillhadthepotentialtoseriouslyimpacthislegacyintermsofalltimerecords.Helostalmosttwoyearsofstats
duringhisprimeifhe'dkeptplayinghemighthaveatleastcomeclosetoKareem'salltimepointsrecord,chased
Stocktonformoststealsofalltime,gottenintothetop25inalltimeassistsandtop100inrebounds,maybehad
anotherring,etc.Weknowinhindsightthathe'sstillconsideredprobablythebestever,butatthetimeofthe
suspensionbeforethesecondthreepeathewasstillonlyaspiringtothatlevelofprestige.
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[] zer0cul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Withaquietpunishmentyoucancontinuesellingmerchandiseandhavingendorsements.Ifthereisapublic
punishmentyourbottomlinetakesahit.Also,itwouldbringintoquestionthelegitimacyofeverygamehehadplayed.
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[] Ralph_Squid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butithinkthepointwasthatitwasdoublesupersecretprobationandanimalhousehadtobeonthebestbehavior
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[] FoonaLagoonaBaboona undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youlettheseconspiraciesbebornandneverdirectlyrefutethemandthenlettheconspiracydotheworkforyou.
ItwasnosecretthatMJwasagamblerandthewaythiswholethingwentdownwouldmakemethinktwiceasaplayer
beforedoingsomethingdumb.
TheNBAhasmuchbettercontrolovertheirplayersthanlet'ssaytheNFLdoes.
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[] landon34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SternguidedtheNBAthroughsomeroughtimestheJailBlazers,MaliceinthePalace,arrests,rapeallegations,etc.,
andhelpedtheNBAbecomeinternationallypopularandwidelyappealing.Mostofhismoveshavebeenabout
broadeningtheNBA'smarket/improvingitsmarketability.
Hereallycaredaboutpublicperceptionandwasalwaysaboutappealingtothefans.Howwoulditlookifthe#1player
inyourleagueisahugegambler,perhapsgettingcaughtinascandal?Wouldbeaverybadlook.Ithinkhewas
sendingthemessagethateventhetopdogisn'tuntouchable
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[] altiuscitiusfortius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itallcomesdowntomoney,andtheleaguemakeswaymoremoneywithhiminit,thenhimoutofit.
Ifhedoesn'tgetcaught,whyfuckingcare?Itsnotaffectingthebottomline.
Peopleforgetsportsareabusiness.Notsomethingdonefortheloveofthegame.Itsownedbybusinessmenand
shareholdersthatwantprofit.
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[] shamrock8421 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itmightgethimtostop?
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Eh.Youdon'tjustquitanaddictionthateasilybecauseyouwereputonsuspensionknowingyou'regoingtocome
back.
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[] ILIEKDEERS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithurtshimimage.Hisimageiswhatmakeshimmoney.
Imean,whoboughtJordanbaseballshoes?Noone.
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whyevenpunishhimatall?
Becauseifhegetsawaywithitthenthenextguywilltrytoaswell!
Theyhadtosendamessage.Ifstarplayerswereallowedtobetongameswithimpunity,theirleaguewouldcollapse.
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Butwhatkindofmessageisitreally?"Heyyoudon'tgettoplayforayear,butyoucankeepallyour
endorsements,knowonewillknowaboutyoursuspension,andwewillwelcomeyoubackwithopenarmswhen
it'sover."
Imean,yea,notbeingabletoplayisapunishment,butitjustdoesn'tseemallthatseveretome.I'mnot100%
convincedoftheconspiracybutI'mnotopposedtoitbeingtrueeither.Itjustdoesn'tscream"thisisobviously
true"tomeliketidoesforothersbecauseofthereasonsI'vepointedout.
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[] sinsyder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecausetheNBAwouldmakehundredsofmillionsonhim"comingback."Jordancouldbebannedforlifeortakethe
yearoff,Sternmakesamendswiththemafiapaysbackthedebtandmakesthemoneybackonfreeadvertisingmoney
fromtheJORDONRETURNShype.
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[] MDO4KD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybesomeonewasgoingtogopubliciftheydidn'tdosomethingortheyweretryingtosendamessageforother
current/futuresuperstarstokeeptheirnosesclean.
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[] dongler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nooneeverhasananswerforthis
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Mostlikelybecausehewasbettingonhisgames.Ifthatcameoutallhellwouldbeletloose.
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Sowhat'stoensureasecretyearlongsuspensionfixesanyofthatwhenhecomesback?I'dargueitdoes
nothingtofixthat.
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Whatotheroptionsdidtheyhave.Itmaynotfixthingssurebuttryingtogethimoutoftheleagueforayear
tofixhisissuesandcomebackisalotmoreprofitablethenlettingitblowthefuckupintheirfaces.
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[] Blond_Treehorn_Thug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
We'll,goingwiththeconspiracy(althoughIdon'treallybuyit)...
Let'ssaytherearesomejournalistsreadytobreakastoryonMJwithtonsofevidence,bigstoryreadytocomeout...
Andthenheretired.Notsuchabigstoryanymore,andwouldprobablylooklikepilingon.Soperhapstheydropit.
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Idonnoman.MJwashuge.Ithinkthestorywouldstillgetwrittenevenifheretired.Especiallywhenhethenwent
tobaseball.
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Ihearyou.AndI'mnotreallyasupporteroftheconspiracytheory.
Butyoucouldimaginethatiftherewasastoryintheworks,thenheretires,thentheretirementisthestory
notthebetting.
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[] hedoeswhathewants undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theory:Theleaguehadsomeevidencethathewasgamblingandwasgoingtolaunchaninvestigation.Jordanknew
theywouldturnupdirtiftheydid.Theleaguedidn'twantitsbiggeststarinvolvedinascandalandobviouslyJordan
didn'twanttobetiedtogambling.TheycutadealunderthetableforJordantostepawayfrombasketballandthecover
hecomesupwithisbaseball.
SidenotehittingaprofessionalfastballisinsanelyhardandJordanwouldhavehadtohavebeencrazytothinkhe
couldtransitiontoprobaseballsoeasily.Butmaybehewas....
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Butthen,whyevensuspendhim?Whynottrytosecretlygethimsomehelponhisgamblingaddictionor
something.Itjustseemsweirdthatyouwouldsecretlysuspendhim,thusnotensuringhewouldgiveupgambling
andALSOloserevenuegainedfromhimplayingforayear.Foralltheyknew,hewouldcomebackafterthe
suspensionwiththesamegamblingproblemasbefore.
Sidenote:I'mreallynotintosportswhatsoeversotakewhatIsaywithagrainofsalt.
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[] frigg_off_lahey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sohestopsdoingitbeforeitcomesoutintotheopenandpermanentlytarnisheshislegacy,alongwiththeNBA.If
Sterntakesnoaction,hardtosayMJwillinglygivesuphisaddiction.
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[] Dubsland12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Keephimfromthrowinggames?
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[] breakwater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecauseSternwitnessedwhathappenedwithPeteRoseanddidn'twantthattohappentohissportwhenitinvolvedits
alltimegreatestplayer.
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[] anikats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myguessisappeasingtheotherowners,butIreallydon'tknow.Maybelaylowtillitblowsover?
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[] riverrock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthereasonwouldbetotryandcurbhisactivitiesprivatelybeforehegoescompletelyofftherails,anditbecomes
amuchbiggerpublicstory.Youlosethebiggestsuperstarintheworldfortheshortterm,butlongtermprotectyour
product.
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[] billet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Adeterrenttoothersuperstarplayers.Weonlyheartherumors.SuperstarNBAplayersareprobablytoldbehindthe
sceneswhatreallyhappened.AndifJordancangetsuspended,anyonecan.
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Andnoneofthemwhoaresinceretiredhavecomeoutandsaidanything?GenuinequestionasI'mnotbiginto
basketball,butIassumeifsomeonecameoutandsaidsoI'dhaveheardofit.
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[] KKamwah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sallaboutthemessage.
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[] searching88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itcouldhavebeenapermanentban.Likesternputthehammerdownonhimandtoldhimhecouldneverplayagain
andthatwastheactualdecisionatthetime.Itverywellcouldhavechangedacoupleyearsdowntheroadafterthe
NBA/Sternrealizedhowmuchtheywerelosingwithoutmichael.Iamnotandhavenoteverbeensoldonthistheorybut
thisscenariomakessenseforwhyhewasgoneforacoupleyears.Sterngoes"michael,you'redone.wearen'tgoingto
makethispublic,butyoucannoteverplayintheNBAagain!"
jordanagrees..twoyearslaterthingschange,stuffblowsover,theycometoamutuallybeneficialagreementtoletMJ
backintotheleague.
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IfeelliketheNBAwouldbeoutoftheirmindstopermanentlybanMichaelJordan.I'mnotevenafanofbasketball
orsportsingeneral,butIimmediatelyknowwhoMJ.Imean,I'mreallynotintosportsandyetMJisahousehold
name.Dudewasahugeassettothem.
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[] HalfricasFinest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecausetheowneroftheRocketswasthebookieheowned!!!!
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[] bushysmalls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LosingJordancostsyoumanymillionsofdollars.
Afuneralonlycostsaboutthirtygrand.
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[] bryan_sensei undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoucanarguethatremovingMJfromtheNBAwasagoodbusinessdecisionbecauseitmadeahandfulofteams
bonafidecontenders.WiththeBullsoutofthewayHouston,Orlando,Seattle,NYKnicks,Indiana,andUtahallhada
chanceatwinningtheNBAFinals.TheNBAwasgettingprettystalewithsuchadominantteamwipingthefloorwith
everybodyelse.SternmighthavecalculatedhowhugeaKnickschampionshipwouldhavebeen.
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[] adesimo1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhe'spubliclybannedforayearhisreputationwilltakeahugehit(ifhe'sevenallowedtocomebackatall).
Ifhe"retirestoplaybaseball"thenhecancomebackinayearwithhishumongousbrandintact.
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[] Bolshevikjoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyviewonitisthatmaybetheyofferedMichaelawayoutratherthanhavingtopunishhimandbringallthisoutinto
theopentohelpMichaelprotecthisendorsementsandimage.Asortofthankyougiftforelevatingthegameof
basketballintheUSandallovertheworld.MichaelJordanandtheDreamTeamin92globalizedtheNBA.Youalready
hadtheguyoutinGoldenStatewhosenameeludesmeaswellasKiKiwhateverhisnamewasalongwithVladeDivac
andDrazenPetrovich,butitwasamuchmoreAmericacentricleagueandsportbefore1992.
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Ineverheardaboutthisgambling/hitbusinessuntiljustnow.However,IbelieveBelshevikjoeiscorrect.
Now,ofcourse,thingswouldbedifferent.Aquicktourofcelebrityrehab,thenbacktocourt(thebasketballcourt)
withplentyofcareertimelefttoworkoutthoseallegeddebts.
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[] arb237 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthebasketballbettingeverbecamepublic,theleaguecouldclaimitwaswhilehewasnotplaying.
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[] _Freshly_Snipes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkyouunderestimatetheegoofDavidStern
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[] HungLo64 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisreturnwillbehuuuuuuuuuge
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whichiswhyit'sprobablynottrue.
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I'mguessingthe"punishment"wasnotbeingpaidthatyear?
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Sure,butcomparedtohisendorsementsandtheamountofmoneyhealreadyhad,Iwouldguessthat'slikea
dropinthebucket.
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[] ChangloriousBastard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButforMJitmeantlosingoutonagreatshotatachampionship(hehadjustwon3andhewentontowin3
morewhenhecameback).KnowinghowmuchJordanneededtofeellikethegreatestchampiononthe
faceoftheearth,losingayearofhisprimeisactuallyaprettybigdeal.
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[] stash600 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sonexttimeithappensthenextguydoesn'tbelievehecangetawaywithit.It'saboutsendingamessagethatnostar
iseverabovetheNBA.
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[] TheWitandLess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
prideandarrogance.
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[] Seoul_Doctor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiskillstheconspiracytheory
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[] riptide undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TimeisMJ'senemy.Assoonashefallsoutoffavor,andhe'sabout70years,ofageallhellisgoingtobreaklose(Ala
BillCosbystyle).
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[] seafood10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'theputhishugeEstateupforsalerecently?
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It'salreadyhappening.
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[] vancityvic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gamblingandrapingareintwodifferentgalaxys.Itwouldntbehellitwouldbelikeshitthatscrazyyobutwhen
arethosejordanmmxicomingout
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[] riptide undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youareabsolutelyright,gamblingandallegationsofrapearenotthesamebutthepowerofaPRfirmto
keepnegativeinformationsuppressedarethesame.Canyoufathomtheamountofinfluenceandpowerit
takestokeepallegationsquietforthatamountoftime?
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[] GroomedScrotum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlentyofstoriesaboutMJhumpingaroundwhilemarried.
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[] utilitybelt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stillnotonthesamelevelasrape.
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[] dbag127 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noteventhesameballpark.Orbasketballcourt.
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[] BlindManBaldwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,he'sanownerintheNBA.He'suntouchableuntilhedies.
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[] westernmalarkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TellthattoDonaldSterling
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[] BlindManBaldwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwasasetofuniquecircumstances
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[] westernmalarkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ehhnotreally.Awomanfinallyhadthecouragetocomeoutpubliclywithevidencethathewas
aracistfuck.IfsomebodycameoutwithincriminatingevidenceaboutanyNBAownerthey
wouldbeoutoftheleague.IthappenedintheNFLwithEddieDeBartolo,Jr.andthe49ersin
thelate90'stoo.
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[] Johnny_Tempest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jordan'sblack.
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Ihatetobethatguy,butIhadafriendwhoworkedataresortinMiamithatJordonhasstayedatseveraltimes.
Accordingtohimyouareabsolutelycorrect.JordonthecelebritygoodguyisnotJordontherealperson.
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[] professorsnapeswand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Terribletippertoo
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[] Chad___Sexington undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthat'sjustracist:p
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[] wsdmskr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HewasprettycoolwhenImethim.ThiswashisrookieyearandIwas8or9,soItakeitwithagrainofsalt.
Buthedidspendabout30minuteshangingoutwithmeoneonone.
[http://m.imgur.com/a/uZHF9](Gotacoolhalfautograph,too)
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That'swhyIsaidIhatetobethatguy.Ihavenevermethimatall.SoI'mgoingbywhatIwastoldby
afriendwhohasafewtimes.Whatdoesthatmeaninthegrandschemeofthings,notmuchtobe
honest.Iwasjusttoldhe'sgotachiponhisshoulderandtalkeddowntopeoplealot.Couldbehe
washavingabaddayeverytimehewasthereormyfriendjusthadbeenrubbedthewrongway.I
reallycan'tsay.
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That'swhyIsaidIhatetobethatguy.Ihavenevermethimatall.SoI'mgoingbywhatIwastoldby
afriendwhohasafewtimes.Whatdoesthatmeaninthegrandschemeofthings,notmuchtobe
honest.Iwasjusttoldhe'sgotachiponhisshoulderandtalkeddowntopeoplealot.Couldbehe
washavingabaddayeverytimehewasthereormyfriendjusthadbeenrubbedthewrongway.I
reallycan'tsay.
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I'dalwaysheardthestoriesbutwhenChamillionairetoldhisIwaslike,yepthatsolidifiesit,Jordanisan
asshole.
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[] _Booker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThethingishecallshimselfChamillionaire.Wellifyousorichthenshowmethemoney!
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Thisstringofcomments,it'slikedejavu.WhenwillsomeonementionhowbadMJtippedthemata
restaurant?
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[] Rage_Mode_Engage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdidchamillionairesayabouthim?Iusedtolistentohimallthetime.Gotalink?
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[] c0lin91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://youtu.be/y4ZQERHL6ow
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[] limewithtwist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhichwouldmakeafallfromgracelikeBillCosbylesslikelytohappen.Peoplealreadyknowhe'san
asshole.
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[] precambriansupereon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PeoplehaveknownCosbywasarapistforatleastadecade,though.
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Iftheguyisthatuntouchable,whatisalittle,privatesecretofasuspensionreallygoingtodo?
Exactly.
AndifJordan'sfatherwaskilledbya"hit"youneverwouldhavefoundthekillers.
Becausethosewhoarecaught,speakup.
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[] NihiloZero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausethosewhoarecaught,speakup.
Unlesstheyarepartofapowerfulorganizedcrimesyndicateandknowthattalkingwillgettheirfamilieskilled?
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Notthosetwodoofuses.Youtalktogetalessersentenceifthekillingwasn'tyouridea.Theywerejusttwo
losers.
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Oryoudon'ttalkbecauseyou'rescaredshitlesswhetheryou'rea"doofus"ornot.
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Thereisnowaythoseguyswerepartofsomehit.Youwouldneverfindthekillersiftheywere.
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[] lookingforworkbknyc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myproblemisthisthough:ifhe'stoobigastartopunishinpublic,whyevenpunishhimatall?
That'sagreatpoint.Wouldn't"secretlypunishing"himbyhavinggoplaybaseballbeanunnecessarystep?Ifanything,
itcreatesevenmoreofaspotlightonhim,notlessofaone.
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[] lrg1ne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellitworked.Thistheoryisnowaconspiracy
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[] Quatr0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Twobirdsonestomeforhisgrandreturn
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[] NotYourAverageBeer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mighthavebeenpartofthestipulationsaftertheyoffedhisdadtogethisattention.
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[] phaerodox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatspotlightfocusesonsomethingasidefromthematterthough
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[] thunderfanH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybetocreatemoreprofitdowntheroad?Hisreturnwasahugeevent.Itallwasprobablyexaggeratedbyhim
goingaway.
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[] Darinbenny1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItgetshimoutoftheNBAiftherewassomethinglikeasealedinvestigationorsomethingpendingtheNBAwas
worriedwouldbreakwhilehewasanactiveplayer.
Then,whenwhateveritisgetsclearedupwithoutgoingpublic,he'simmediatelywelcomedback.
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Right.Thewholepointofthesuspensionistomakeanexampleoftheplayer.
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[] musthavesoundeffects undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybeheowedmoneytothenbaleagueofficials.
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[] Thoguth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,hewenttoplaybaseballtodoafavorforthebookie.
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Orhelostabetandthepunishmentwas,goplaybaseballforayear.Ifhewon,maybeit'sDennisRodman
wearingaweddingdress.OryougettobeinamoviewithLooneyToonscharacters.
Winsome,losesome.
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[] Napoleon98 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SotheymadeadealwithMLB,yougetMJforayear,buildupyourpopularity.Getyourratingsupandmake
somemoney...Then,onceMJcanplaybasketballagainhecomesbackwithevenMOREviewers.
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[] toodle3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sstillpunishmentforhimsoastodeterhimfromdoingitagain.Evenunderthetable,itreaffirmsthatthey(the
NBA)aretheboss,andMichaelJordan,thoughextremelyvaluable,isanemployee.
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Chicagoanhere.It'sbeensaidtomemanytimesthatthemovewasmoreforMichaelthantheleague.Takeallof
theaboveatfacevalueandyouobviouslyfindyourselfinafuckedupsituation.Thisisn'tasmallgambling
addictionit'sliferuining.Hellifitgrowsfurther,itcouldshatterhiscareerimageforever.
Sternwantedhimtostepawayforhisowngood.HeneededtodosomethingelseANDstopgamblingforawhile.
Ifnotforamentalshift,thenforhisteammatesandtheBullsthathadtodealwiththis.
Wouldmakesense.Baseballisn'texactlyasintense.Michaelsuckedatittoosohedidn'thavetobetheGOAT
24/7andIthinkheknewit.Itwasalsoawayforhimto'makeitup'tohisdad,whoalwayswantedhimtoplay
baseball.
Sadstorynomatterwhichwayyouspinit.Maybethisiswhyhe'ssosaltytoday.
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[] jmsd3ef undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasforboth.TherealstoryisfaruglierthanwhatisanopensecretamongthoseinvolvedintheNBA.
MichaelJordannotonlymakesPeteRoselooklikeanhonestman,itmakeswhathappenedtoTiger
Woodsfromthemediaseemalmostcriminal.TherewasnojusticewhenitcametoMichaelJordan.
Thematterwashandledaswellasitcouldbeinternally(betweenBussrepresentingtheownersandStern),
butifitwerejusthimbettingonhisownteam,heneverwouldhavebeensuspendedatall.Hedidwell
worse.Hehurtalotofpeopleduringhiscareer.Alot.
Thebitternessisbecauseheblameseveryoneelseforwhathappenedtohim.Heisanarcissistofthe
highestlevel.Hewillnevercomprehendthegravityofhisactions.
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Neverheardanyofthisbefore..damn,andwow!Thanksforsharing!
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Idon'tknowmanythingsoutsidetheboringworldofinvestmentbanking.GladIcanprovide
something!:)
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Hedidn'tsuckthatnarrativeisgarbage.HewasplayingwellbytheendofhisAAAstint.
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HenevertouchedAAAandhebatted.202inAA.CouldIbat202inAA?Probablynot.I'malsonota
professionalathlete.
Heblewcockatbaseball,relativetobaseballplayers.Idkwhyyou'redefendinghim/makingupthe
AAAcrap
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[] Scionstorms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellithumbledhimbecausehesuckedassforeveryonetosee.Ithinkthatwastherealpunishment.Tosee
suchastarfailatsomething.
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[] ZombyTed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MaybeitwasjustthepowerofforcingMJtodowhatthedirectorwanted?
Idunno,richpeopleareweird.
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[] r_kay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itputsmoreofaspotlightonhim,sowhenhecomesback,itsa"surprise"andournumbersincreasehigherthan
theywerebefore.
Afterasuspension,herewouldnothavebeenallthehype
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YoumeanliketheNewCokeconspiracytheory?
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Atthetimetherewasnorealspotlightonhis"retirement."Mostlikelyhewasgamblingonhisowngamesandthat
meantheneededtogetthefuckoutoftownforabit.
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[] jzcommunicate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,theydon'twanttheimageoftheNBAtarnishedwhentheirmessiahfigureturnsouttobeadegenerate
gambler.
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[] StevenPechorin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.Theyhadnowayofknowingiftheycouldkeepalidonit.Theyonlylethimbackonceitwasclearly
contained.Thenthedecisiontolethimbackinwasobvious.
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[] jonsnow312 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Perhapshemadethedecisionbecausehefeltthatpunishmentwouldbecoming.NotsureIbelievethisone
eitherthough
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[] jmsd3ef undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sfunnyanswerslikeyours,itshedalotoflightonwhatpeoplebelieveanddisbelieve.
Notonlyisthisnotaconspiracy,it'smoreofanopensecretintheNBA.JerryBusshelpedbrokerthedeal,
andwasn'taverybigfanofeitherMJ,ortankingtheleagueoveraproblemthatcouldbesolvedquietly.
Source:MyfamilyusedtoownpartofanNBAfranchise.
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[] mattcuz83 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TomBradyhasawordortwoabout"Toobigastartopunishinpublic".
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[] Dashing_Snow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmeanhowhedidn'tgetsuspendedforasingleregularseasongameonceeverythingwassaidand
done?
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[] mattcuz83 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thepointisthattheyattemptedto.Theseclaimsarethatthenbacommisionerwouldn'tattemptto.
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[] Humpy_Thrashabout undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlybecauseofthecourtcase.Itwasstillanattemptbytheleaguetopunishitsbiggeststar.The
resultisprettyirrelevant.
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[] Dashing_Snow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Okaybutwhatwouldhavehappenedifstuffdidn'tgetleaked?Nothingevergotconfirmedabout
thegamblingrumorsallthePatsstuffprettymuchgotleaked.
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[] Bolshevikjoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TomBradyisn'tshitcomparedtoMJcirca19921996.Nooneis.Peoplewhohadnoclueaboutbasketball
knewexactlywhoMJwas,whathelookedlikeandwhatshoeshewore.TherewereVHStapes,Tshirts,
SunglassesandeveryotherkindofMJmerchimaginable.Therejustaren'tstarsofthatsizethesedaysto
comparehimtoathishighestpoint.
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[] cantRYAN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahewasthemostfamouspersonintheworldbasically.Hewasmorerecognizabletopeoplethan
BillClintonorthePope.
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It'sprobablethatLionelMessihasnowsurpassedhim,butupuntilacoupleofyearsago,Michael
Jordanwasarguablythemostfamousathleteintheworld10yearsafterhelasttoucheda
basketball.
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[] ewbrower undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NofuckinwayMessiisasfamousasMJwas
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[] ClarkFable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyouareoverstatingthiscaseabit,thehighestratedNBAfinalgameJordanplayedindidn'tget
halftheviewersofanyofBrady'sSuperbowlwins.Jordanhadmoremerchandising,butithinkyou
underestimatethenumberofpeoplewhodidn'tgiveashitaboutbasketball.
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[] johnnyfiv3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotmanyAmericanswatchedthetourdeFrance,didn'tstopLanceArmstrongfrombeing
hugelyfamousforaspamofafewyears.
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[] verty101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Viewershipisn'tthatimportantintermsofgeneralawarenessofanathlete.Justlikeeveryone
knowsthatTigerWoodsisthebestgolfer,everyoneknowsJordanwasthebestatbasketball.
TalktopeopleoutsidetheUSandtheywon'tevenknowwhoBradyis.
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[] twattymcgee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsthepoint.Evenifyoudidn'tgiveashitaboutbasketball,youknewwhoMJwas.MJwas
simplythebestatmarketinghimselfatthattimeandwasabletobreachthelimitationsofthe
sportsworlditself.Imeantheguyhasn'tplayedalickofmeaningfulbasketballinover12years
yethe'sstillhawkingunderwearandhisownlineofbasketballshoes.
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[] mikemo089 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthat'stheSuperBowl.That'slikesayingthedudewhostarredinAvatarisabiggerstarthan
LeoDeCaprio
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I'mnominatingthistotheanalogyHOF.
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Thatisexactlywhatit'slike.Wellput.
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[] quitar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MJwasknownworldwide,inatimebeforeTwitter,viralvideos,andsocialmedia.ThatisaHUGE
accomplishment.
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[] brotogeris1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InterestingthatyourcommentistrueregardingbothMJs.
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[] MalooTakant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
umm.TigerWoods?TonyHawk?Kobe?
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I'dsaythoseareallnamesthatwouldbecommonknowledgeevenifyou'reunfamiliarwiththeir
respectivesports.Andtheyallhavethemerchtomatch.
MJwassimplythefirst.Theoneyoumeasureeveryoneelseby.Nottomentionthewowfactorgets
erodeddownthemorepeoplelikethatpopupandstayaround.
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[] wsdmskr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tigergotclose,butnoonesincehasbeenasbigaJordan.It'slikecomparingthebiggestrock
staroftodaytoMichaelJacksonitain'tevenclose.
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[] Pmmeyourfloppytits undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarejoking,right?Imeanhowoldareyouson,12?TheymakeupafractionoftheJordan
shitstorm,COMBINED.
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[] JonBananas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
umm.TigerWoods?TonyHawk?Kobe?
They'reallupthere,especiallyTiger,butthey'restillnothingcomparedtoMJ.
Andtheyallhavethemerchtomatch.
Notheydon't.
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[] FifaMadeMeDoIt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlyinamerica.Outsideofamericafootballstarsarestillwaybigger.
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[] TheGirlWithTheCurl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sure,butMJwasstillahugedealoutsideoftheUSandarguablyatleastaswellknown(ifnot
better)ashiscontemporariesinsocceratthetime.
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[] frizzaks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Futbol(soccer)playersarewaybiggeronaworldscale.RonaldoandMessiandevenBeckhamare
biggerthanM.J.everwas,.
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[] planx_constant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'sthenameofthemultimilliondollarmoviestarringRonaldo?
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[] kquinn00 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
False.MaybeBeckhamisclose.Butlet'srevisitthisin10yearsshallwe?
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Idon'tfollowfootball/soccerthatclosely.IsDavidBeckhamreallythatutterlydominantin
hissport?
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[] comeonnowplease undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButaretheyinSpaceJam?
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[] Mernerak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DifferenceistheyarefamousNOW.MJisatLegendstatusandgrowingbeforetheinternetand
somuchmorethatmakesthemfamous.
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Butnoneofthemaretoobigtobesuspendedeither.
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[] CercleRouge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Who?
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Ithinktheyarefutbolstarsfromthe90s.
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Thethreebestsoccerplayersintheworld.
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[] metyuadem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisexactlyhowitwas.Ridiculous,almost.
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Itallowsyoutoassertsomeauthorityoverthesituation.Ifyouareincharge,youcan'thavepeopleunderminingyou
andgettingawaywithit.
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[] Stormflux undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whateveryousay,captainoftheBounty...
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[] KnyfeWrench undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybetheyweremoreworriedaboutthepotentialdamageoftheirbiggeststar(andoneofthebiggestsportsstarsin
theworld)goingdowninflames,andthepermanentdamageitwoulddototheleague.
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[] GCARNO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MichaelJordanwasamazing,buthewon'tbethelastphenom.HissuspensionsurelycostMichealmillionsinboth
moneyfromtheNBAandendorsements.Whatitdoesissetaprecedentforalltheotherballersoutthere.Youthinkwe
won'tsuspendyou?Wedidittothegreatest,we'lldoittoyou.Itwasn'tofficial,buteveryoneknows.Sometimesyou
havetokillonetosaveathousand.
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[] ballsvagina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JerryReinsdorf,theowneroftheBulls,alsoownedtheWhiteSoxandcontinuedtopayJordanhisbasketball
salary,andhestillhadthecontractwithNikesoIdoubthelostmuchmoneyifany.
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[] ShrewyLouie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatareyousmoking?Everyoneknows?
Nameonepersonwhoknows.
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Hahahaeveryoneknows?!It'sstrangetowatchhowthisthingsmorphovertimeandgofromcrackpottheoriesto
acceptedfactbysomepeople.Theinternetisastrangeplace.
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Thatmakesenoughsense,butmyonlyresponsewouldbethatitshowsaweakhandasmuchasitshowsit
strongone.Itsays,yeawe'lldosomething,butwestillwon'tdoitinpublic.Ifeellikethatcangivesomeonea
goodamountofleverage.
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Imean,thiscoulddefinitelybethecase,butI'mjustnot100%convincedeither.
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[] Topherjacob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itupholdshisimageandprovidesforanexcitingcomebackthatprobablyincreasesthepopularityofthenbaevenmore
thanwhatitwasbeforeheretired
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[] bennihana09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Then,whybuildallthatuptodoalockoutayearlaterandlosewhatgoodwillyou'vebuilt?
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Thelockoutwas99
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I'mguessingtheywereafraidwordwouldgetoutsoonerorlateraboutmoredamagingandshadystuffandthat
suspendinghimwouldlowertheprobabilityofmediascrutinyorpossibleleaksfromteammates.
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[] holdingacandle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justsoyouknow,thatispathetic.
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[] olympia_gold 5796points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLisdrawingsomuchattentiontotheconcussionissue,becausetherealreasonalltheseexNFLersaresufferingand/ordying
frombraintraumaisactuallytheyearsandyearsofsubconcussivehitstothehead.Whichwouldimplythatthereisaninheritand
unfixableproblemwiththeirgame/business.Theywantthepublictothinkthatconcussionsaretheculprit.
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Welljustlookatthenewmovie"Concussion"withWillSmith.Enoughsaid.
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Thisislessaconspiracy,andmoreareflectionofsocietylosingbasiccriticalthinkingskills.
Yes,concussionsandgeneral,repeatedhitstotheheadarecausingthisproblem.However,thisiscausedbyabusinessthat
encouragespeopletobludgeoneachotherwiththeirbodies.
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[] Ursa27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'scalledaxonalshearingandcanoccurwithoutconcussionandwon'tshowonMRIorCATscan.Thisalsooccurswithsoldiersthat
arethevictimofIEDs.Thisisagenuinepossibility.
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[] TheGonzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'shardformetosympathizewithNFLplayers.Theyknowtheriskofthesport,anditscommonsensethatifyougettruckedoverand
overagainyou'llprobablygethurt.
It'samanmadethingthatisentirelyfortheentertainmentofhumans.It(andsportsingeneral)hasnovaluetothisworldbeyondthe
valuethathumansputonit.
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[] Dr_Chausable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ioncemetaguywhotoldmeaboutapersonathiscollegewhoisdevelopinganewmodelforafootballhelmetthatmimicstheheatof
agoat.Goatsareabletobashtheirheadintostuffwithoutasecondglance,sheistryingtomakeahelmetthatcandothesame.
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Aparttimejobthatpaysmillionsofdollarsayearisdangerous?
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[] yabluko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UhhAnywayicouldgetaeli5?
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[] Gentlescholar_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyregonnahavetoditchthepads.Theycanresistandresist,buteventuallytheyllbeforcedtogivein.
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[] cyberdork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justgetridofthehelmets.Problemfixed.
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[] Egopoison undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ListentowhatMickFoleyhastosayabouthitstothehead.Allthelittledingsandshotspeopletaketothehead,whilenotnecessarily
concussions,stilladdupovertheyearsandcanhavetremendousrepercussions.
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subconcussive
What'sthedifference?
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[] F1RST_WORLD_PROBLEMS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverconsideredthat.Veryinteresting.
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ITT:Fatredditorscommentingonasportthey'veneverplayed.
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[] Matador91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FormanyyearstheNFLtriedtocoverupconcussioncasesinvolvingtheirplayerswhowereretiredandsufferingfromtraumas.Idon't
reallygetwhatyoursayingthoughbecauseconcussionsaretheresultofsubconcussivehits.Subconcussivejustmeansrepeatedhits
tothehead,andthatleadstoaconcussion.IgetthattheNFListryingtopointthefingeratsomethingthatmightharmtheleaguebutI
thinkconcussionsandsubconcussivetraumaisgenerallythesamething.
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[] zzay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisagreatfreaknomicspodcastonthis.Itaddressestheproblemonadifferentpointofview:thehelmet.
Thehelmetissaferandoffersmoreprotectionthaneverandthatallowstheplayerstobemorephysicalandhitharder.Iftheplayers
knewthehelmetwasn'tassafetheywouldhitless
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[] Harisr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesn'tWillSmithhaveamoviecomingoutaboutthatalready?
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[] TheSyrupCompany undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idkwhypeoplearesurprisedthatgettingtackledby300+poundjackeddudesforupto20yearswillfuckupsomeone'sbrain.
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[] skamatics undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow,thoughtthattheentiremoviewasbasedaroundconcussivehitsovertheyears..anditsnot?
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Alongthesamelines,doesMohammadAliactuallyhaveParkinson'sdisease,ordidthefamilydecidetojustusehismisfortunetodraw
attentiontoaworthycause(anddeflectattentionawayfromthefactthathekeptboxinglongafterheshouldhaveretireddueto
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arroganceandpride.)
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[] horseradishfistfight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yup.Justlikeboxing.
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[] PeterLockeWiggin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavetowonderhowmuchdamagebuttingheadsincelebrationiscausingaswell.EverytimeatouchdownorgreatplayoccursIsee
almostall11playersslamtheirheadsintotheguythatmadetheplay.Igetitsnotatthesamespeedthathappensduringaplaybutit
stillcan'tbegood,especiallywhencompoundedwithalltheregularhitstakenduringthegame.
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[] thebadpipsisewah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididn'trealizethiswasa'theory'
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[] TonySoprano420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherealreasonisChrisBenoit,butyoumaybeontosomething.
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[] woodsbre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Istillbelievepartofthereasonwhyconcusionsaresuchanissueisbecauseofthehelmets.Rugbyisequallyifnotmoreviolentand
althoughtheyhaveplayerssufferconcusionstheproblemisnotnearlyasprevelant.Althoughthiscouldeasilybeexplainedawayby
theconfirmationbiasstatement.AsrugbyisntreallyabigdealwhereIlive.Theycouldeasilyhavesimilarnumbersifcompared
equally.
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[] Asmodiar_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sreallytocutdownonkidsnotbecomingsuperhumanathletesduetoinjurytooearlyintheirsportscareer.
50yardfieldgoalswerenotpossible25yearsago:P
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Footballwillbegonewithinafewgenerations,it'sjusttoodangerous.It'salreadyslowlydying,nooneIknowislettingtheirkidsplay.
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yupitstheconstantpoundingtothebody/head
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[] DatSpickBoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eveniftheproblemisunfixable,isitthatbigadeal?Sofootballwilleventuallykillyou,doyoustillwanttoplayformillionsofdollars?If
so,thenletthemhaveatit.
Iassumemostsportswilleventuallyruinyou,butIstilllovewatchingthem
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[] igbgotiz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whyisthataproblem?
Justlikeboxing,airplaneaerobatics,motorracing,somesportsareinherentlydangerousduetothenatureofthephysicalactivitybeing
carriedout.
WhatmakesNFLspecialthattheywanttoconcealarealdanger.
Idon'tseeboxingfansstoppingwatchingboxingbecauseboxingcausesbraindamages.
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Idon'treallyhavetoomuchsympathyfortoday's(read:today's)players.Theyknowexactlywhatthey'regettingIntoandtheygetpaid
afairamountforitnotthatmoneyiseverything.
Ijustthinkthatifyoutrulybelievemen,ofthatsize,runningintoeachotheratfullspeed,WONTfuckyouupforthelongtermidkthen
somethingelseiswrongwithyou.
I'msoconflictedbecauseIstillwanttowatchthatdamngameeveryweek.AndIwishmykidscouldenjoythepeeweehsfootballthatI
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did.ButIcan'tletthemplayingoodconscious.Atleastnotpasthighschool.
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[] NotFoolishYet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
College,too:TheBusinessofAmateurs
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[] TomatoT0m undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mpartoftheminorityhere,butamItheonlypersonthatthinksconcussionsandheadtraumaareinherentlypartofthegameand
maybetheseplayers(whoaremakingmillionsofdollarsayeartoPLAYAGAME)needtocometotermswiththatandaccepttherisk
beforepursuingacareerintheNFL.Frankly,themoreweregulatethesportthelessboringitbecomestowatch,themoreIfeel
cheatedoutasaconsumer.
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[] SaltLyfe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uncleplayed15+yearsinNFL.Hewasrecentlydiagnosedwithdementia.Iadviseanyoneconsideringtakingfootballtoaseriouslevel
tothinkaboutthelastingeffectsitwillhaveonyourbodyandmindthatyouwillbeforcedtolivewith.
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[] wonderband undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wouldthisreallybescandal?isthereanyoneouttherethatdoesn'tthinkfootballishardonthehumanbody?
theseguysgetpaidmillionsandalltogethertheyliveaprettyprincelylife.isfootballcausinginjuriesreallythemostpressingsocial
issueinthenationtoday?
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[] IHateTomatoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndtheWillSmithmovieisgoingtodonothingaboutit.Thefilmmakerstriedtowalkafinelinebetweenmakingastatementagainst
theNFLandnotpissingofftheNFLinordertonotgetsued.IntheenditsgoingtobetooweaktopittheNFLinabadlightandthe
NFLwillstillsuetheirasses.LoseLose.
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[] Hayes231 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
willsmithinConcussion
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[] jfk_47 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mwillingtobetthatwhenmykidshavekidsfootballwillnotbeaspopularifasport.Toodangerous.
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Notaconspiracy.Hitstotheheadistheissue.Everybodyknowsthat.
It'snot"their"gameor"business".It'sfootball.It'sgettinghitintheheadplayingfootball.Everyoneknowsthat.
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[] razzark666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smessedupbecauseIbetguysalreadyhaveabunchofbraindamagefromNCAAandHighSchoolandPopWarner.Solikeisthe
NFLreallytoblame?
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[] AeternumValeTipper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Really?ThefuckingNFL?That'swhereyouwentwiththat??
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[] Trifectard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wealreadyknowthat.Notreallyatheory.
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Getridofthehelmets
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Also,it'sprettyclearthattherulechangestheyareimplementingareforshow.Specificallysotheycanpresenttherulechangesas
evidenceincourtthattheyaretryingtofixtheproblem.Theirmainpriorityisavoidingcostlylawsuits,becausetheNFLisabusiness.
Andlikethepreviousposterstated,concussionsandbodilyharmareaninseparableaspectoffootball.It'safuckingviolentgame.
There'snochangingthat,sotheNFLhasassumedaroleofdamagecontrol.
Theeffecttherulechangeshaveonplayersafetyisminimal(givingsuspensionsrandomlytoplayerslikeBrandonMeriweatherwho
haveareptuationofdelivering"bighits").Theystillallowobviouslyconcussedplayerstogobackonthefield,andtheplayersare
activelylyingaboutsymptoms.RichardShermanwroteanexcellentarticleaboutthefutilityoftherulechanges.Kickoffsarewhere
mostofthe"problemhits"happenandlittleisbeingdonetopreventthose.Increasingthenumberoftouchbacksdoesn'tprevent
gunnersfromdestroyingblockers/viceversa.
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[] ChrisDolmeth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActuallydidapresentationonthisincollegeandIreallydobelievethis.Majorconcussionsaren'tanywherenearasmuchofanissue
asthebrainbeingsmashedagainsttheskulleverytimeapairof300poundmenpushintoeachother
TheNFLhasblockedinformation,distributedmisinformationanddownplayedhowconclusiveeveryreputablestudyhasbeenonthe
issue.131of165formerfootballplayersstudiedshowedearlysignsofCTE.Thatisanalarminglyhighnumber.TheNFLdidtheirown
"studies"bydoctorsontheirownpayrolltoshowthatthelinkbetweenheadinjuriesandCTEwereinconclusive.Goodellstraightup
refusedtoanswerwhenaskedincongressifitwaspossiblethatbraininjuriessustainedduringfootballcareerscouldhaveahandin
causingbraindiseaselaterinlife.IthinkthewholethingisgoingtoforcetheNFLintosomeprettydrasticchangesdowntheroad.
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[] connectiledysfunctio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Concussivehitstotheheadhavebeenshowntohyperextendneuronsinthebrainandalsocauseamyloidplaquestoform(likebig
bundlesoftangledneurons).TheseplaquesarealsofoundinAlzheimer'sdiseaseandresultinthesamesymptoms.Theneuronal
traumascanalsoresultinaslow,creepingpersonalitychangeinwhichthesuffererbecomesincreasinglyilltemperedandaggressive.
Tldr:RepeatedconcussionscancauseAlzheimer'slikesymptomsandviolentpersonalitychangesovertime.
Randomfact:ChrisBenoit'smurder/suicidecaseisoftenseenasaroidrageincidentbutnow,withmoreresearch,ithasbeen
suggestedthatbraintraumafromhisconcussionsmightbetherealculprit(rememberhisfinishingturnbucklemove?).
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[] daniwoodwardama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinktheconspiracyisthattheNFLneedstoprotecttheimageoffootballingeneraltosavetheNFL.Iflittlekidsdon'tplayfootball,
thenfootballstartstoloseitspopularityaspeopleage.
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[] tusig1243 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButintheNFL'sdefense,youcanincludeallthesafetyrequirementunderthesunallyouwant,butintheendyoustillhave250+lb
gargantuanhumanbeingsrunningateachotheratfullspeed,collidingheadfirst.Therearegoingtobeinjuriesregardlessofhow
manyrulesyouhave,andtheplayersknowtheriskinvolved.Footballisacontactsport,anditmakeswaaaaytoomuchmoneyforitto
notexist.
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[] jrafferty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileImostlyagreewithyou,I'mbecomingmoreandmoreconvincedeveryweekthatthereisonlyonewaytodecreaseserious
injuriesintheNFL.Theleagueneedstoactuallyregressinsomerespectsandtakeawayshoulderpadsandrevertbacktoleather
helmets.Thesafetyequipmentcurrentlyavailableisjustsimplytoogood.Duetothecurrentequipment,thesehugemuscularathletes
areabletocompeteinamannerthatdefiesNewton'slaw,inthattheycanhitanopponentwithasmuchforceaspossiblewithout
feelingasmuchofthathitthemselves.Everyactionhasanequalandoppositereaction...unlessyou'rewearingpaddingthatprotects
youfromfeelingtheeffectsofthatreactiveforce.
Takeawaythepadsandtheimpenetrablehelmetandtheforceofthehits(what'scausingtheinjuries)willdecreaseandassuchsowill
theinjuries.
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Ifthereisaconspiracytheoryhere,it'sthattheNFLhasknownabouttheissueforheadtraumaforalongtimeandfailedtotake
measurestominimizeitinthegame.Therealityisthereismountingevidencethatrepeatedhitstotheheadisthecause,regardlessof
whetherthehitscauseaconcussion.
Oneoftheproblemswithhandlingthisissueisitstrikesastheverynatureofthegame.Changingitisfightingperceptionsthattaking
awaythehardhitsissofteningthegame.
Footballingeneralisalsofightingthecultureofplayingthroughpain.Football,perhapsmorethanothersports,almostdemandsyou
playthroughanypainaslongasyoucanstandonyourfeet.
FromwhatIamhearing,theupcomingmovie,"Concussion",isgoingtocasttheNFLinaverybadlight.
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[] o0MetalHead0o undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyshouldmakethehelmetsoutoflikeafootoffoam.Thatwouldbefunnyasshit
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60minuteshadagreatreportonthisacoupleofweeksago.Theytalkedabouthowalotofsmallhitstotheheadhavealargerimpact
thatoneortwoconcussions,butIneverthoughtaboutitfromtheNFLtryingtolookgoodstandpoint.Veryinterestingpoint.Thisis
extremelylikelytobetrue.
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[] Altair05 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesrugbyhavethesameissueaswell?
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[] MongodbOnlyPawn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionthefactthatthetraumadoesn'tbeginintheNFLbutbeginsinpeewee.
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[] Jabbajaw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisthisreasonexactly.Boxersendupwithmajorproblemsbecauseofallthelittlehitstothehead.Frequencyofhitsismoreimportant
thanmagnitude.
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[] Kolecr01 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisnoclinicaldefinitionormeansofobjectivelydiagnosingconcussion.sofarthebestdefinitionisnonstructuralradiographically
silentclosedheadinjurywithsymptoms.Thatsprettyfuckingstupid.
Scat3,impact,kingdevickarealsoallcompletegarbageandprovidelittletonoactualvalue.Serummarkersarenotpractical.
WhereImgoingwiththisisthatconcussiveandsubconcussiveeventsarelikelynotmutuallyexclusive,insteadoverlapgreatlyor
mostly.
Theissueiscertainlyrepeatedknocksonthehead.Temporalsummationhstremendouseffectsonthebody.Thesportisbroken.
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[] shocktar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mTBIaintnojoke
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[] BrosephKennedy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'treallyqualifythisasaconspiracytheoryatthispoint.
CTE,chronictraumaticencephalopathy,thebraindiseasethathasgainedalotofattentioninthelastfewyearsduetoearlydeathsof
explayers,isn'tdirectlyrelatedtoconcussionsorevenguaranteedineveryone.CTE,basedonthestudiesthathavebeendone,
seemstobecausedbythecontinualsubconcussivehits,notthe1time,slobberknockers,thatyouseeonhighlights.Manypeople
withCTEhavemaybe1or2diagnosedconcussionsatthetimeofdeath,whileotherswith6+genuineconcussions,haveno
symptomsatall.(NOTE:Atthispoint,CTEcanonlybediagnosedpostmortembuttherearemarkers,alongwiththeobvious
symptoms,thathavebeenobservedbeforedeath.)
Theleaguealreadypaidafineof$700+milliontoexplayersthataresufferingfromissuesrelatedtoheadinjuriesthatweren't/aren't
coveredbyleaguepensions.Iguaranteethatnumberonlygetslargerasplayersretire.
FrontLinedidagoodpieceonthesubjectafewyearsagocalledLeagueofDenial.It'sonNetflixifyou'reinterested.
Also,accordingtothesomefolksthatprescreenedWillSmith'snewmovie"Concussion",itmightchangethewayyouviewtheNFL
andfootballingeneral.
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[] Casteway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Waitaminute...areyoutryingtotellmethatgettinghitintheheadoverandoveragainwillimpactyourhealthinanegativeway?
Balderdash!!!
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wellaren'tconcussionsandsubconcussivehitsallundertheumbrellaasconcussions?ObviouslytheNFLwontwanttoimplodeon
itselfandadmittofactthatthereisaninherentproblemwiththeirgame,becausewhywouldthey?They'retryingtoreducetheamount
ofconcussionsandbemoreeducatedonthemaretheynot?idkwhati'mtalkingabout
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Idon'tunderstandyourcommentatall.They'redrawingattentiontoconcussionbecausepeoplearegettingconcussed?Andtheywant
peopletothinkit'sconcussion?
Also,howthefuckdotheygetconcussionwhenthey'rewearinghelmets?
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[] Death_Star_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onmobile,butIbelievetherewasastudyofretiredItalianprofootball(soccer)playerswhohadahigherincidenceofdementiathan
thegeneralpopulationanditwaspositedthatitwasduetotheconstantuseoftheheadforheadersobviouslysubconcussiveblows
tothehead.
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AmericanFootballreallyisanextremelydangeroussport,regardlessofwhatfansandplayersmaythink.
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[] SamuelAsante undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwasreallycurioushowablockbustermovieaboutconcussionscouldeverbemadeiftheNFLdidn'twantthespotlightontheissue.
Thismakesalotofsenseiftheytreatingconcussionsasaredherring
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Ok,thisone,Imayagree.
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[] freeze123901 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisaconspiracy?It'sdamntrueandeveryoneknowstherisksplayingthesport,justaskErikLagrande
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[] Diabeetush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dsayit'saproblemwiththesport.Alloftheprotectivegearplayerswearleadsactuallytomoreinjuriesthanbefore.Naturally,it
impairsfinemotorcontrol,butthat'snotthereasonbehindit.Therealreasonisbecauseitmakestheplayersfeeltoosecurehitting
oneanotherwayharderthantheyeverwouldwithoutprotectiveequipment.Whileprotectiveequipmentcandoalot,itcannotenhance
ourmuscleorbonestrengthwithouthurtingourmaneuverability.
Soinfootball,wehavelotsofprotectiveequipmentthatencouragesplayerstohiteachotherfarharderthantheynormallywould.This
equipmentdoesn'tinhibitmovementeither,soweendupwithpeoplehittingharderandendinguppullingmusclesorreceiving
concussions,stuffthatnohelmetcanreallypracticallyprevent.
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[] canashian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'stheconspiracyangletothis:justtheNFL'sdenial?Multipleneurologistshavebasicallyconfirmedthatthecumulativeeffectsof
subconcussivehitsisbothpartofthegameandaprimarycontributortoCTE.
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[] ZippyDan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotinherentandunfixable.Footballwasnotalwaysagameofarmoredwarriors.Gobacktoitsrootsandmakeitsomethinglike
rugbyagain.Footballershitsohardbecausetheirarmormakesthemfeelinvincible.
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[] cologol18 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwonderhowthenewWillSmithmovieisgoingtohaveaneffectonthisissue,it'snotsomethingthatthegeneralpublichasalotof
insighton.Thefactthatrepeatedheadcollisionshasdetrimentaleffectsissomethingthatiscommonlyknown,butnotmuchpeople
knowinrealityhowtheNFLhasdealtwiththis.
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[] ZMC8881 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thesolutionissimple.Takeawayhelmets.Lookatrugby.It'sjustasroughasfootball,buttheydon'tanyhelmets,andconcussionsare
muchmorerare.Forthosethatwouldarguethatahelmetprotectsyouwhenyoufallheadfirst,itdoesn't.Theplacethatinjuryoccurs
inthosesituationsisyourneck,andahelmetdoesn'tdoanythingtoprotectthat.Ihatetosayit,butthisisthetruesolutiontotheNFL's
concussionproblem.
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Couldn'tweputaccelerometersintheirhelmets,soatleastwewouldthenhavealotofdatatoworkwith?Thenwecouldcomparethat
datatotheireventualoutcomes.
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[] asimplescribe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyhaven'tdonemuchatalltofixitbecauselinemenaremorelikelytogetbraindamagebutonlyreallytakelotsofsmallhits.You
justcan'tplaythegamewithoutlinementakingthosehits,sotheypushbackdoinganythingaboutit.Itmaybethattheyhavetoadmit
thereisn'tgoingtobeasolutionandofferthemoreatriskpositionsmoremoneyandlifetimehealthcare,whilewarningthemofthe
risksoflongcareersinthosepositions.
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[] loaferbro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SamethinghappensintheNHL,notasoften,butenoughthatplayerswillretireandpassaway.DanielCarcillomournedthelossofa
bestfriendfromthisandthenretiredbecausetheleaguedoesn'tdomuchabouttheseissues
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[] tennisdrums undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'ssostrangethatpeoplewouldactlikethisiscontroversialorshocking.Itwouldseemlikecommonsensethatrepeatedblowstothe
head,regardlessofwhethertheycauseconcussionwoulddamagethebrain.EveryconversationI'veheardonthesubject,itseems
likeeveryfootballplayerandNFLrepsays"Concussionthisandconcussionthat".Justtotaldenialthatanyotherproblemexists.
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[] houghfullpuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikeit'salittleobviousthatfootballcomeswithinherentrisks.It'sacontactsport,anyparentthat'sworriedaboutconcussions
shouldhave100otherrisksinmindbeforethat.
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Theydon'tforcetheplayerstoplay
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[] Dys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwillbeourequivalentofthegladiators.
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[] jimofthestoneage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisfixable.Removethehelmetsandpads.Thegamewouldbesomuchsaferandconcussionswouldbealmostnonexistent.
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[] nikicampos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow,Ijustsothetrailerfor"Concussion"startingWillSmithonThanksgivingdayonprimetimeinthegameBearsvsPackersandI
waslike,really?theNFLletthiscommercialinthemiddleofthegame...
Afterreadingyourcomment,Ibelieveyouare100%spoton.
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[] Vepr762X54R undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HereisBillRomanowskiagreeingwithyou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn8I8JKKbBI
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[] oorza undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snoteventhat.We'realltalkingabouthowtomaketheplayershitthemselvesless,whenweshouldbeaskingwhytherewasan
explosioninplayersizeandthegame'sviolenceduringthebaseballPEDera,andwhythere'sneverbeenanysteroidinvestigationinto
football.TheNFLknowsthatitalwayshasanoutfortheconcussionthingmostNFLplayersonlyplayafractionofthefootballthey
playintheNFLbuttheycan'tsurviveafullblownsteroidscandalliketheMLBdid.Andeveryoneinthatleagueisjuicing.
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[] jvjc1233 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Upuntilrecently,IhadkindofignoredtheNFL'sconcussionproblem.Now,Irealizehowrealandscaryitis.CTEinparticularis
terrible.TherewasaninterviewwithTonyDorsettawhilebackinwhichhesaidsomethinglike"Iplanonbeinghereforalongtime,but
Idon'tknowwhatmybrainisgoingtodointhefuture.Iplanonbeinghere,butIcan'tknowforsure."Forthepeoplewhodon'tthink
concussionsandCTEareabigdeal,lookupMikeWebster,JustinStrzelczyk,JuniorSeau,andhell,evenJimMcMahon.Scaryshit
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[] Psycho_history1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfitissubconcussivehitsitwouldmakeitimpossibletojustifyPeeweeFootball,HighSchoolFootballorCollegeball.Itwouldbethe
endofthegame.
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[] FVCEGANG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isn'tthiswhatthefilm"concussion"isabout?StarringWillSmith.
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[] olympia_gold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaven'tseenit,butI'mwillingtobetthatthereisaheavyfocusonconcussionsandverylittlementionofthedaytodayhitsthat
theseplayersaretaking.WhichwouldfallnicelyintomyconspiracyiftheNFLwereinsomewayencouraging,orevenfunding,that
narrative.TheNFLisencouragingcriticismofhowtheyhavehandledconcussionprotocolsinthepast,becausetheyhaverealized
thatthebiggerissueisthesubconcussivehitsandtheywanteveryonetofocustheirattentiononconcussionsandhowtheNFLis
"improving".
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[] FVCEGANG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsnotoutyet,butIbelieveyoucouldcheckoutthetraileronyoutube.Itsalmostexclusivelyabouttherepetitivehitsthe
playershavetaken,anddealsheavilywiththeaffectitwouldhaveonplayersandtheNFLingeneral.Ihighlysuggestyou
checkitout,itsliterallytheexactsamethingasyouwroteinyourfirstpost.That'swhyIwassuggestingthefilm.
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[] autojourno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HaveyoureadMalcomGladwell'sNewYorkerpieceonthis?Iprettystronglysuspectyou'reright.Thisisverycompelling.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/19/offensiveplay
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[] RottMaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justhavethemsigndeathwaivers
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[] whmeh0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExcepttheNFLisn'tdrawingattentiontoconcussionsandCTE,it'sdrawingattentiontodeflatedfootballs
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[] BiPoLaRadiation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Concussionsareinsidious.Thedamagetheydoispartlyupfrontbutalotofitisinhowyourbrainhealsanddamnyourbrainisshitat
healing.Destroyingandrecyclingdamagedcellscausesinflamationandreleaseofharmfulchemicalswhichleavesyourbrain
vulnerableintheeventoffurtherinjuryaswellaspotentiallyaggravatingthecurrentinjurymorebecauseofbuildupofplaquesand
scartissueandthefactthattherejustisntroomforswellinginyourskull.Furthermorethereisaspecificgeneinvolvedwithhealing
fromconcussionsthatcanbedefunct.Ifyouhaveonedefunctcopyyourbrainbecomesmuchmuchworseathealingextendingthe
processandresultinginthebuildupofmorescartissueandplaquethansomeonewithtwogoodcopies.Ifyouhavetwodefunct
copiesitcancreateafeedbackloopofperpetualinjuryafterasingleconcussionbecausethegenesarejustsoshittyathealingthat
youareinastateofconstantinflammationleadingtoconstantbuildupofplaques.Ifyouhavetwodefunctcopiesyourchancesof
gettingAlzheimer'safteratraumaticbraininjuryismassivelyhightothepointofanalmostguarantee.Therehasbeensometalkof
screeningforthisgenebeforelettingpeoplegointofightingbecauseofthedangerassociatedwithitbutobviouslythishasbeenmet
withresistanceandcontroversy.Inmostcontactsportsthoughyouarentjustgoingtogetonconcussionbutmanyandthedamage
doesntaddbutmultipliessoyoucanbeanormalhealthyadultandthenget10concussionsoverthecourseof3yearsandendupwith
massivememorylossandlossoffunctioning.Becarefulwithyourheadpeople.
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[] jarmac undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InterestingtonotethatheadinjuriesinNFLseemfarmoreprevalentandseverecomparedtoothercontactsportslikerugby,AFLetc.
wheretherearenohelmets.Don'tgetmewrong,sportslikerugbyandthelikesthereaplentyofconcussionsbutIhaven'theardof
verymanypassingatveryyoungageslikehasbeenhappeningwithAmericanFootball.ItallseemsabitbackwardsbecauseIfeellike
thehelmetsshouldreducetheseveruityofheadknocks/concussions.Maybethey'redoingmoreharmthangood?JustspitballingandI
reallyhavenoideabutIreallyfinditfascinating.
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[] Socialdegenerator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tcallthisaconspiracy.Anyonewhoputsanythoughttoitwouldrealizethatthat'sthemainproblem.Butyoucan'tfixthatand
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everyoneknowsit.Soyoumakesureyoucompletelyshutdowntotalconcussions,sonobodyisgettingserioustraumaallatonceand
ordyeing.
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[] RTCpurple undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahthisisn'tevenaconspiracyatthispoint.ExNFLplayershavecommittedsuicidebyshootingthemselvesinthechestjustso
scientistscanexaminewhatthehellwaswrongwiththeirbrains.Shit'sfucked.
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[] DeceptivelyShallow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likewhom?
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Thisguy.
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Wow,veryinteresting!Heartbreakingthough.Thankyouforthelink.
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Yeah,CTEisscarystuff.It'sprettyunsettlinghowpeopleattempttodownplayorjustoutrightignoretheseissues
consideringtheveryrealconsequences.
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[] Sir_Thaddeus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OrwecouldrulesportsasbrutishandplayESportsinstead!
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[] Zandrick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sotheyarecoveringupaproblembytellingeveryoneabouttheproblem?Thatmakessenseto3k+peopleapparently
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Inonesituation(concussions),theNFLcansaythey'reworkingonwaystoavoidconcussionsthroughnewruleslikenohelmetto
helmetcontactandtakingpeopleoffthefieldimmediatelyiftheyshowsignsofaconcussion.Intheother(subconcussivehits),the
entiregamewouldhavetochange.TheNFLknowsthattheresearchpointstosubconcussivehitsbeingtheproblembutbecause
thereisnowayforthemtostopthose(theyareinherenttothewayfootballworks),itismuchbetterforthemtofoolthepublicby
makingstepstoavoidconcussions,andthereforekeepthepublicthinkingthatconcussions(whicharemore'avoidable')arethe
culprit.
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whatwouldhavetochangeifitwassubconcussiveasopposedtoconcussive?
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Theentiretyoftheoffensiveanddefensivelines.Thesportwouldbeunplayable.You'dhavetomakesurethatnoone
everhittheirheadsevenmoderatelybecausetheresearchshowsthatthecumulativehitsarewhatcausestheproblem,
notnecessarily1hardhit.Instead,theNFLcanimplementrulesthateliminateveryhardhits(aforementionedhelmetto
helmetrule),beharsheronthatandavoidconcussions.
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Ahinteresting,sothisissueislotsofsmallerhitsversusonelargehit.Thankyouforenlighteningme.
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Itsnotsubconcussivehits,itspostconcussivehits.
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[] rplst8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhatefootballforthemostpartbutIrefusetobelievethesteroidabusedoesn'thaveanythingtodowiththeproblemstheyhavelater
inlife.
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[] sinkbot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisoneissowelldocumentedatthispointthatit'shardtocallitaconspiracytheory.ChronicTraumaticEncephalopathyisclearly
causedbyrepeated,subconcussiveblowstothehead.
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[] krizutch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsawsomedoctoronTVoncetalkaboutthisissuecomparingthebrainanapplesayingitdoesn'tnecessarilytakemassivehitsto
damageit.Ifitkeepstakingsofterblowsrepeatedlytheouterwallsbecomesoftandleadtomajordamage.
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[] JonZ1618 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButwhywouldtheNFLpushheadsupplayforkidsthen?
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[] Targetshopper4000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswasrecentlydiscoveredaboutboxingwasn'tit?thatmostofthedamageisn'tfromthefightsthemselves,buttheyearsandyears
ofconstanttraining.
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[] HeartBorne7thSeeker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WanttomakeAmericanfootballbetter/safer?Removeallpadsandhelmets,makephysicalcontactsomethingthatyouhavetoplan
andevaluate,notjustastrategyof"let'sfuckingsmashheadstogetheruntilbraindamagesetsinandwecan'teatwithoutbigspoons,
andinalltheconfusionsomeonehappenstoruntheleathereggallthewayoverthere"
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ThisarticlebyMalcolmGladwellhasthebestheadline/subheadcombinationI'veeverseen.It'sfrom2009,whentheMichaelVick
scandalwasstillintheforefrontofpeople'sminds,butconcussionsweren't.Itsays:
OFFENSIVEPLAY
Howdifferentarefootballanddogfighting?
Ijustreadthatandthought,"ohman."
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[] pedre123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sarcastaballherewecome!Nobodygetshurtwhenyouusewords!
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[] NabiscoLobstrosity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtthetwo(concussionandsubconcussion)wereverycloselylinked,particularlyintermsofsportsinjuries.
Thereisnotmuchreasontothinkthataconcussivehitissodramaticallydifferentfromanearlyconcussivehit,orseveralnear
concussivehits.
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[] PmFemaleNudes69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justfinishedmysenioryearofhighschoolfootballandcantellyouthatthebiggestproblemwithplayingoffensivelineisn'tconcussion.
Itistheamountofhitsyoudeliverwithyourhead.Beingasmallguytheresimplyisn'tawaytomovesomeonethatdoesn'tinvolve
throwingyourheadatsomeone
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[] HalfricasFinest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LolIamstillperplexedatwhyIshouldgiveashotaboutsomeonewhowastoostupidtounderstandthattakingrepeatedblowstothe
headwasbadfortheirbrain.EVERYONEKNOWS!!!ButJohnnyHoodratmakesarationaleconomiccalculationtoplayintheNFL
insteadofhangaroundComptontobangsnackstootheratchetsuntilhegetscappedoveracrackdispute.
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[] sbkerr29 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLdidn'tdrawattentiontotheconcussionissuesothersdid.Theyinfactputalotofeffortintotryingtohideit.Theyonlybegan
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theirconcussionprotocolsandeducationprogramsafteratonofbadpress.Subconcussiveblowsarebeingexploredasa
potential/probableissuebutthereisrealproofoftheproblemsassociatedwithmultipleconcussions.
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[] llewr0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifweassumethismedicalconclusionisfact(I'mjustnotwellreadontheissue),thisdoesn'tseemsomuchtobeaconspiracytheory,
butratherapredictablePRspingiventhecontextandprofitdrivennatureoftheorganization.
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[] SleepyConscience undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoknowswhatrepetitivesubconcussivehitscause?MydaddiedofnonfamiliaALS.Mymomisconvincedit'sbecauseheplayed
footballinhighschool.Apparentlythere'ssomestudytheydidthatshowedthatpeoplewhoplayedcontactsportsintheiryouthare
threetimesmorelikelytocontractthedisease(theoverallriskisstillveryminusculeforallofyououttherewhodidit'sahorribleway
todiebutstillprettyrare).Ithinktherealpointisthatwedon'tknowsomuchbutforgeaheadanyway.
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[] WARGLBARGL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'snotthatunbelievablei'veseenafewarticleson/r/socceraboutplayersgettingheadfuckedbecauseofheadingballs.iknowhowit
sounds.
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[] mooose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ormaybeit'sallthedrugs.
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[] I_Am_Ironman_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettyconvincedprehighschooltacklefootballisgonebeforethedecadeisout.
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[] musical_throat_punch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sniceandallbutwhatabouttheconcussions?
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[] theacorneater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whycan'ttheyjustchnageittotouchfootballiftherearesomanyconcussions
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[] BleedingAssWound undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'ssad.Ilikewatchingfootball,mostlycollege,butalsoIunderstandthegamecan'tcontinueethically.Maybethenewtargetingrule
willhelp,maybenewhelmetswillhelp,butIdon'tseeanywayitcanreallybefixed.
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[] dingleberrylover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkthenrlshouldberesponsibleforwhathappenstoplayersfromthesesortsofinjuries.Theknowtheriskoftheirjoband
theygetpaidextremelywellforit.IplayAustralianrulesfootballandwouldneverblameanybodyelseifthathappenedtomebecauseI
knowtherisk
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[] grv413 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theproblemisstoppingthebrainfromhittingtheinsideoftheskullisimpossible.TheNFLknowsthat.Theywanttokeepasmuchinfo
awayfromthepublicaboutconcussionsaspossiblebecausetheyknowthereisnowaytostopconcussionsfromoccurringandwhen
thepublicfindsthatout,theNFLisdead.Asismostothercontactsports.
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[] salesmunn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
correct.Therepetitivehittingistheproblem,concussionsarejustexclamationpointsontheboldtext.
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[] CarMaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihonestlyfeelmoredevelopmentcouldbedonetoimprovehelmettechnology.Notheywon'tstopthewhiplashmovementsbutwould
helpwiththeimpactsofthegroundorotherplayers.
AutoracinghelmetsIMHOarefarmoreimprovedonayearlybasisbymanufacturersthanfootballhelmets.
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[] Cyberhwk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeelyou'rerightonthemoney.Makeitlooklikeyou'redoingsomethingthenactignorantwhenit'sfarworsethanwhatyou
"expected."TheytalkaboutallthesebighitsonWRs,oneoftheNFLposterboysforCTEwasJuniorSeau.
I'dbetmoneytheygo"StrikeZone"within20years.Peoplesaytheyneverwillbecauseitwillhurtthesport.I'mnotsurethey'regoing
tohaveachoice.
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[] exyccc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AddinanedittorecomendHeadGames.ItisaverygooddocumentaryonNetflix.Ilovefootballbut8yearsofhsandD1havehad
detrimentalresultsonmymemory.
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That'swhatconfusesmeabouttheConcussionmovie.ThescandalwasaboutCTEwhichisamuchbiggerissuethanconcussions.
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[] poopinginpublic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwouldn'tharmtheirbusiness.Nobodyisforcingthesementoplayfootball.Theydoittomakemillionsandtheyknowthedangers.
It'sallbullshit
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[] kratomized undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'sdisgusting.Theyuseyoungmenlikeworkhorses,theyrunthemthroughuntiltheyfallapartandthengetridofthem.
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Wellit'snotliketheydon'thaveachoice...
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[] MB_A5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tfeelbadforthem.Whyaretheysurprisedthattheygetwreckedwhentheyplaya"sport"(which99%oftheworldoutsideof
Americaregardsasajoke,btw)whichislittlemorethantwolinesofgorillassmashingintoeachotheroverandoveragain?Of
coursethey'dendupwithbraininjuries.Notthattheyhadmuchbrainpowerinthefirstplaceanyway,butstill.I'vesaidforyears
thatamericanfootballcanbarelybecalledasport,it'sthemostprimitiveandleastsophisticatedgameonplanetearth.It's
laughablethatonlynowpeoplearerealizinghowdamagingitistothe"players."
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[] vanillachase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/iamverysmartiscallingyou.
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[] Tramd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Idon'tunderstandhowthegameisplayedbutI'llbedamnsuretotalkaboutasifIdo!"
lol
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[] MB_A5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol,please.Youtaketwolinesofgorillasandhavethemrundirectlyatandsmashintoeachother.Your"strategy"isin
whereyouplacethegorillas.Oneguyhasanactual"ball"(whichismorelikeamisshapencone)andhetriestothrowit
tosomeonefartherdowntheline,orrunwithit.That'sliterallythegame,minusafewextraneousdetails.It'sajokeand
onlyidiotAmericanscouldbesoentertainedbyit.IcouldplayfootballtooifIweighed400poundsandhadanage
greaterthanmyIQ.
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hurrdurrhowiplayfooseball?
I'msorry,didyousaysomethinginthatdrivel?
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Idon'tlikeorwatchfootballeither,butIgrewupwithafamilythatwouldgatheraroundandyellattheTVduringthegame.It's
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notadumbsportactually,ithasquiteabitofstrategyinvolved,evenifit'snotapparent.
Thatbeingsaid,Iagreewithyouthatitisreallyharmful,especiallysinceit'ssopopularwithhighschools,andhowthere'sso
manyotherwisesmartkidswhoplayfootballthroughouttheiradolescence.
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[] oregonbobdotcom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyoufeelthesameaboutfishing,crabbing,linemen,orotherlinesofworkthathavehighfatalityrates?
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Thosearen'tsports.High/middleschoolstudentsdon'tgocrabfishing.Theyaren'tpushedintoitbytheirfamilies.I'venever
meta13yearoldthatwantstobeafamouscrabfisherman.There'sfamiliesthatrevolvearoundsports,especiallyfootball,
andkidsjustkindofgetpushedintoit.
It'sentirelydifferentandIthinkyou'rejusttryingto"stump"me.
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[] oregonbobdotcom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnottryingto"stump"you.Iwouldn'tletmykidplayfootballbutwearbitrarilychooseouroutrage.Kidsdieinfarm
accidentsallthetime.Shouldtheystopworkingonthefamilyfarm?Therearecountlessotherexamplesofour
dangerousbehaviors.Sodacauseswaymoredeathanddestructionthanfootball.Weshouldprobablybanthattoo.
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[] Madplato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptyoudon'tfillstadiumswithfolkscheeringonyourinadvisablesodaconsumption.Peopledon'tpushyouto
drinkmoresodaandwon'tbelittleyouifyoutakeabreak.Youdon'thaveyoufatherbreathingdownyouneckso
you'lldrinkmoresodaandIdon'tthinkanyonegetstolddrinkingsodaistheirbestbetatasuccessfulfuture.
Igetwhatyou'resaying,butIdofeelthere'sanactualdifferencetobemadehere.
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[] ShreddedWheat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthereisamarketforcrabandtherehavetobepeopletogetonboats.Thereisprobablyanevenbiggermarketfor
footballentertainmentandpeopleworkhardtofillthatmarket.Theyaren'tthatdifferentwhenyouonlyconsiderthemas
dangerousoccupations.Idon'tknowmuchaboutcrabbing,butIwouldn'tthinkit'salastresortoptionformostofthe
peopleontheboats.
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Ithinkit'slegalhedgingagainstfuturelawsuits.Theywanttoputthemselvesinapositionwheretheycansay:"Weaddressedthe
dangersasbestwecould.Weinstitutednewrulestomakethegamesafer,raisedconcussionprotocols,andinformedplayersofthe
riskandalsohowtoaltertheirtacklingtoreduceheadtrauma."
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[] CashMikey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh.Thisisgood.Thisisreallyreallygood.Thepartaboutthesubconcussivehitsis100%true.IwanttoaddsomethingthatIthink
youmeantbutjustdidn'tstatedirectly:Theymaybeintentionallydealingwithbigconcussionsineffectivelytokeeppeople'sanger
focusedthere.
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[] EODkr1z undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igottasay,evenwithhowhorribleitis,I'mgladtheNFLislookingintoit.TheyusedalotofNFLstudiesfortheconcussiveresearch
thatthemilitaryusestotreatIEDvictims.Bothprogramsarehelpingeachotherpushfurtherintoneurologicalresearch,notonly
helpingwithconcussion,butfindingreasonswhyotherneurologicalissuesarehappeningandpossiblefixes.
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[] fumantia_pardus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Athletictrainerhereyou'reabsolutelyright.Subconcussiveforcesareasmuchifnotmoreofabeastthanconcussions.Scienceis
movingawayfromtheideathatthereareany"mild"concussionsatall.Anyimpactonthebrainisn'tgood.Traumaticbraininjuryisa
ficklemistresssomepeopleget2Gforcestotheirheadandgetlonglastingconcussions...Somepeopleget5Gforcesandhaveno
problemswhatsoever.SubconcussiveforcesaremoreofaproblemthantheNFLisreadytoadmit.
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[] Claffdaddy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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CTE..Thousandsofsubconcusivehitstotheheadcauseit.
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[] harveyc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Semirelatedconspiracytheory.TheNFLisintentionallytellingrefstofuckupcallsonthefieldthisseasonsothatpeoplestoptalking
abouttheirproblemsindealingwithplayerhealth,DVandthelike.
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[] large_farve undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andnowweseetheviolenceinherentinthesystem.Help!Help!I'mbeingrepressed.
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[] alanaa92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forgivemyignorancebutcouldyouexplainwhatasubconcussivehitis?
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[] Immanuel_Cant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Routinehitsthatdon'tcauseconcussions.
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[] The_Munz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanksforclarifyingthat,Ithoughtitmeanthitsbelowthehead.
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What'sgoingtohappentothefootballplayerwhoisknownforbeingamathematician?Willheeventuallybecomestupid?
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[] candleboy95 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TELLTHETRUTH!tellthetruth
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Iftrueit'satemporaryfix.Becausethelawsuitgenieisoutofthebottlenow.I'mpersonallyconvincedthesportisunrepairableandin
lineforasteepdecline.AcoupledecadesfromnowtheNFLwillstillbearound,butmakingafractionofcurrentrevenuesasaregional
sport.Andwithfarlessphysicalitythanistoleratednow.Lawyersaregoingtoeatthatsportalive.
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[] Citizen_O undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsdeathwon'tbeamomenttoosooneither.
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[] omniron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkolderplayerscanmakeanargumenttheyweremislead,butnoyoungplayerscanmakethisargument.They'rewillingto
sacrificethemselvessotheirfriendsandfamiliescanhaveopportunitiestheycouldneverhaveotherwise.Manyplayershavesaid
asmuchininterviews.Whoistosaytheycan'tdothis?Isn'tthiswhatalmostallworkis?Wewasteawayoncubiclesoronfarmsor
trucksetc,toprovideforourselvesandfamily,Ican'tfaultplayersformakingthisgamble.
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It'saquestionofhowmanypeoplewillbewillingtopaytowatchpeopleclearlyandundeniablywreckthemselves,andhow
muchthey'dpay.Peoplearealsojuststupidandlackcriticalthinkingskills,sometimestellingsomeoneitcanendhorribly
won'tregisterproperly.
Idowonderifwe'lleventuallyreachthepointwherethe"I'mwillingtopaythepricefortheopportunitiesformyselfandmy
family"willbemetwithpeoplepointingoutthattheirbraintookalotofabusewellbeforetheywere18.
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[] rhoffman12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustdon'tthinkthat'strue.Racecardrivingisdangerous.Skydivingisdangerous.Boxingisdangerous.Noneofthosethingsare
outlawed,becausetherisksareunderstoodandaccepted.Theplayersunionswillchangetacksandfocusmoreonplayersafety,
butthegapbetweenthe"risks"and"knownrisks"isalotnarrowerthansomepeoplewanttoadmit,andrapidlynarrowing.
Theonlysketchypartisiftheyarecoveringinformationup.It'slikethetobaccocompanies.Theylied,theyhidthings,anditwasbig
news.Buttheyputthelabelsonthepackages,andpeoplekeptsmoking.
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Intheend,everyonewillsimplyadmitthatplayingfootballcausesslow,cumulativebraindamage.Andthey'llkeepplaying.And
that'sokay,inmyopinion.
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[] IndigoMoss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sthethingthough,alotofparentsaregoingtostoplettingtheirchildrenplayiftheystartunderstandingtherisks,which
willeventuallyleadtoadeclineinalotofotherareas.
Touseyouranalogywithsmoking,underagesmokinghashugelydeclinedsince1995whentobaccocompanieshadtostart
tellingthetruthaboutit.Atthesametime,tobaccosaleshavebeensteadilydecreasingaswell.
Thatbeingsaid,therewillstillbepeoplewillingtoplayandparentsthatwillletthemplay,justliketherearecertaingroups
thataremorelikelytosmokethanothers(loweducation,poverty,andcertainsubsetsofpeople,accordingtotheCDC).
Everyoneinthe1950susedtosmoke,nowit'sstillprevalent,butnotevenclosetothatlevel.NFLiscurrentlythe#1US
sport,itcouldbepossiblethatitcouldeventuallyseeadeclineduetoalloftheissuesthatarestartingtopopuparoundthe
game.
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Yeah,it'sgoingtogothewayofboxing.Peoplejustdon'tsendtheirkidstoboxingclubsasmuchastheyusedto.
Whathappensisthesupplyinthesportdriesup.
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[] rhoffman12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobaccomightnothavebeenthebestanalogytomake.IguesstheplacewhereIthinkthetwoscenariosdivergeis
thatthechangesinsmokingwerebroughtaboutthroughlegaland,critically,legislativeaction.Maybeit'safailureof
imagination,butIdon'tseeCongressgettinginvolvedtoattackfootball.IcouldseemajorchangescomingfromNCAA
fiatorNFLPAnegotiation,butIdon'tthinkthatsweeping,legislativeaction(likewhathappenedwithtobacco)coming
downthepipeline.
Imeantaketheanalogythroughtoitsconclusion,what'stheJoeCamelequivalentforfootball?TheNFLagreeingnot
tomakejerseysinyouthsizes?
It'saninterestingdebateforsure.IthinktheNFLwillcertainlyenduppayingoutbigtothe"middlegeneration"where
theriskswereunderstoodandnotcommunicated.Mygutsaysitwon'tcauseanysweepingchangesthough,atleast
nottotheprofessionalorDIproducts.
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[] IndigoMoss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinktheJoeCamelequivalentisyouthleaguesandschoolfootball.Rightnow,mostNFLtalentcomesfromat
onepoint,agovernmentfundedinstitution.WhiletheNFLmightnotbedirectlyinvolvedinthatsystem,they
definitelybenefitfromitandthatcouldbesomethingthateventuallygetschanged.
Astohowitwillhappen,Iagreeitwon'tbeexactlylikecigarettes,butthere'salotofplaceswheretheNFLcookie
couldcrumblequiteabit.
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[] Holly_Tyler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Insomewaysfootballcouldbeworseoffthancigarettes.It'sreasonabletosmokecigaretteswithoutyour
parentspermissionasakidorlaterinlife.It'shardtoplayfootballwithoutmomanddaddrivingyoutoand
frompractice.
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[] ReverseTheKirs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididaresearchpaperonthisexactissue.That'sprettymuchwhattheNFLisdoing.A,lotofshadybehindthescenestuffisgoingon
andtheleaguegivesnofucksabouthealth,onlythecontinuationofFootball.
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[] datorangeguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowabouthowattentionisbeingbroughttoit,butbraindamagetovaryingseverityisa100%guaranteeforeveryfootball
playerfrompeeweetotheNFL.Everytimesogettackledyouareathugeriskforatraumaticbraininjury.Theproblemlieswithinthe
"walkitoff"mentalitythat,unfortunately,issomewhatnecessarytoplaythesport.Unlesssomeoneishithardenoughthattheyget
dizzy,theyjustkeepplaying.Thisistheproblem.
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[] beespatellas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkinaradiologyresearchlabthatprovedjustthat!subconcussivehitsarenobueno
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[] TolstoysMyHomeboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aresearchscientistshouldneversaythey"proved"anything.
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[] oracle989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,incasualconversation,ifthere'saverystrongcausallinkestablished,it'sfine.It'slikeIcansay"I'vegotatheorythatthe
NFLisoverplayingconcussionstodrawattentionawayfromabiggerproblem"inconversation,eventhoughIwouldmore
accuratelymean"hypothesis"or"wildassedguess"
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[] MessyRoom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ienvyyourjob.Soundsawesome.
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Whatwasthelengthofthestudy?oralinkifit'spublished
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[] TheLoveBoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
they'retrollingdude
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[] McFluffTheCrimeCat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dbeinterestedtoseeastudyintolongtermexposuretosubconcussivehits,itsoundsentirelyplausible.
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ThereisalsoaverystrongtrendforretiredandexprofessionalathletestoendupdevelopingALSatsomepoint.
AnawfullotofALSpatientsdoseemtobemiddleagedorelderlymenwhowereextremelyfitandphysicallyactiveintheiryouth,so
muchsothatscientistshavenoticeditasanofficialcorrelation.
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Source?
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[] TheMegaZord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IamsoexcitedforthebirthofRugbyintheUSthatisgoingonrightnow.Oncepeopleseeyoucanplayacontactsportwithoutpads,
thatisstillsafe,hopefullythemassesturn.
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[] mrblahblahblacksheep undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rugby.safe....What.
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[] TheMegaZord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'llseemorebrokenbones,butlessinternalandlonglastinginjuries.Thatis,ifyoudon'tplaylikeanasshole.
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[] lorde_blue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovewatchingfootballbutitisahorriblesport."Minor"injuriesareahugeproblemforplayers.Injuriesthatresultinpeoplenotbeing
abletowalkwithoutbeingintremendouspainaretemporarilyfixedwithpainkillers.Painisn'talwaysweaknessleavingyourbody.
Sometimesitisyourbodysaying"Hey!Stopplayingfootball!"
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[] Caidynelkadri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatthehellareyoutalkingabout?Painhasnothingtodowithweakness,itisverypreciselytellingyoutogetthefuckoffofthe
fieldbecauseyou'redamagingyourbody.
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[] hollyyo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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SometimesIfeelguiltyforwatchingitandenjoyingitwhenIseeplayersgetterribleinjuries.Granted....Theychoosetodoit,buta
partofmefeelslikeI'mpartoftheproblem.
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[] jrbussard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youareprettymuchdeadon.IplayataD3schoolontheolineandmykneesarefucked.Ibuprofenismybestfriendduring
season.Stilllovethegamethough,Iwouldn'ttradeitfortheworld.
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[] simdus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Handegg.
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[] Northern_One undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veamendedthatsayingaboutpainwitha"sometimes"atthebeginning.
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Iaskthisinaseriousandrespectfulway...whatisitthatyoufindinterestingaboutwatchingfootball?
I'vetried,andI'vebeentogames,andIjustdon'tseewhat'sentertainingaboutit
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Painisn'talwaysweaknessleavingyourbody.Sometimesitisyourbodysaying"Hey!Stopplayingfootball!"
Ifwe'regettingtechnical,I'mprettysurepain(notsoreness,E.g.musclegrowth)isalwaysyourbodysayingtostopdoingwhat
you'redoing.
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[] WendellX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyoufeelthatway,thenyoushouldstopwatchingorpatronizingfootball.
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[] dbx99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
asaparent,I'minclinedtonotencouragemysonstoplayhighschoolfootballwhentheygrowup.Fromconcussionstokneeand
backinjuriesthatbecomelifelongsourcesofpainanddebilitation,thereisno"glory"inruiningyourbodyatage17andspending
thenext60withsomekindofphysicallimitationsbecauseofastupidgame.
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[] DethKlokBlok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NorthDallasForty.
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iwouldn'tcallitanymorehorriblethananyotherviolentsportlikeMMA.It'sapersonalchoicetosacrificeyourpotentialhealthin
thefuturetodosomethingyouloveandmakemillions.ThemainproblemIwouldhaveisthepainkillersaspect.
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[] Peoples_Bropublic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtleastwithMMAtherearenoillusionsaboutplayersinjuringeachother.
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somewhattrue.ButI'dsaythereareillusionssurroundingthedamagefromsparringandweightcutsjustasmuchas
thereareillusionsinfootball.
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[] Blatch0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherearequiteafewproblemsthatIhavewithfootballandtheNFLingeneral.
Beingblissfullyunawareisn'ttoobad,Iguess.=L
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[] somekook undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovewatchingfootballbutitisahorriblesport.
Youknowyou'retherootoftheproblem,right?Youknowthisawfulgamedestroystheplayers,butyoukeepwatchinganyway.
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[] Naive_Thief undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahtotally,hisenjoymentoffootballliterallyforcestheplayerstoplay.Look,Igetwhereyou'recomingfromwiththe
assertionthatiffewerpeoplewerewillingtospendsomuchmoneyonNFLmediaandmerchandiseplayerswouldbeless
willingtorisktheirhealthbecausetherewouldbeasmallerpayday.Asitisthough,it'sachoicetheymake.Whetherthey're
makingatrulyinformeddecisionabouttherisksisalotmorequestionable,butthat'sanissuewiththeNFLputtingprofitover
safety,notthefansenjoyingthegame.
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[] MrWnek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,youcanstillenjoythesport.Istillloveit,andwishIcouldstillplayatadecentlycompetitivelevel,butafterhigh
schoolyouprettymuchknowwhatyou'regettingintoasfarasthephysicalityofthegame.Thereareinjuriesinevery
sport,butthatdoesn'tmeanwecan'tenjoyitsolongastheparticipantsarewilling.Imean,footballismuchlessbrutal
thansomeancientsportswherethelosingteamwouldbesacrificed.Therealproblemisthegeneralincompetencyof
theupperlevelmanagementandthecommissionerforlettingthingsslideuntilthereis.a.publicoutcrywhetherit's
concussions/injuriesorofffieldactivities(seerayrice,ap,raylewis,etc).
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[] somekook undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,footballismuchlessbrutalthansomeancientsportswherethelosingteamwouldbesacrificed.
Really?That'stheargumentyou'regoingwith?
"Sure,thisprofessionalsportleavesplayerswithpermanentbraindamagethatruinstheirpostcareerlives,butat
leasttheyaren'tallmurderedattheendofthegame!"
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Itsnotmysoleargument,butitisanargumentnonetheless.Imeannextthingyouknowwe'llbeplaying
sarcastiball.
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[] etevian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Footballplayersandcoacheshaveaspartanculturewhichepitomizes"painisweaknessleavingthebody".Hellwiththisandpro
wrestlingi'dsayitstheclosestthingtheUShastojapanesesamuraiwhenitcomestodedication.
Itsaviciouscultureforsure
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It'sabrutalgame.Youtakeabeatingeverytimeyouplayandthingslikeswollenknees,brokendigits,bruises,cuts,scrapes,
etc.areallminorannoyancesthatareusuallyplayedthrough.It'swarright?
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No.Warismuchworse.
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Footballgamesareoftencomparedtoawarorbattle.It'sjustananalogything.Itworksandthereisapointwhy
theymakethecomparison.It'saverystrategicgameandalotofpeopledon'trealisetheextentofthatuntilthey
playit.
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[] etevian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Knewaguywhoseankleswoleduplikegrapefruit.Shruggeditoff.
'Likedamnman
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That'swhattapeisfor!
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[] ThatsNotCoolBro14 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItorebothofmyshouldersplayingHSfootballandendeduphaving3shouldersurgeries.Atthetime,Ijustwantedtoplay.Now,I
kindofwishIstoppedplayingafterthe1stsurgery
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[] wet_sparks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
evenregularplaycangetyoumessedup.IntheOregonvUtahgamelastyearthetightendforOregongothisfootcaughtinthe
turfandtoreupabunchofligaments.allthelinemanandmostqbswearakneebraceincasesomeonerollsuponthemsothat
theybreaktheirleginsteadoftearligamentsbecauseabrokenleghealsfasterandstrongerthanligamentsdoetc.
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Itsaysalotthatmanyhighschoolshavetheirlinemen,runningbacksandQB'swearingthosekneebraces.Whenmybrother
playedin'85/'86,theyweremadetowearthosekneebraces.WhenIplayedin'84,wedidn'thavetowearthem.
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[] CloudEnt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Footballhasbeencompletelyruinedforme.Iwinceateverytackle.Iworryaboutthekidswhoareafraidto"showweakness"
andtellacoachtheyareinjuredbecausetheywilllosetheirjob,maybetheirentirefinancialfuture.It'sasystemthat
guaranteesinjuryandIdon'tgetanypleasureoutofwatchinganymore.
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Itrulybelievefootballasweknowitwillceasetoexistinafewgenerations.It'sjuststupidlydangerousandnotworthit.
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[] dylan2451 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WendellDavisisoneoftheworstAstroturfinjuriesI'veheadof.
FromWikipedia
HiscareereffectivelyendedonOctober10,1993,inagameagainstthePhiladelphiaEagles.Whileplantinghisfeetto
catchapass,hiscleatsgotstuckintheAstroturfatVeteransStadium.Theforceofbeingpulledbacktothegroundwasso
severethatitcompletelyseveredbothpatellatendons.Doctorslaterfoundhiskneecapshadbeenpushedallthewayinto
histhighs.Hespentseveralmonthsinawheelchair,withhislegsencasedincastsfromthightoankle.[3]Afterspending
theentire1994seasoninrehab,heattemptedacomebackwiththeIndianapolisColtsin1995,butdidnotappearina
game.
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[] wet_sparks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thevetwasjustanawfulstadium,I'msurprisedsomeonelikehimdidn'ttakethenfltocourtoverit.
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[] by_whom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.I'maClemsonfan.OurLordandsavior,DeshaunWatson,playedagamelastseasonwithatornACLandakneebrace
thatwasbasicallyactingasanexternalACL....Likewhatthefuck
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[] CartoonsAreForKids undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mtakingaclassinhighschoolwherewejustusetheschool'sweightroomforanhourandahalf,andit's'taught'bytheschool's
footballcoach.
WhileIcouldgoonfordaysabouthowlittleheknowsaboutliftingandsafety,it'shisattitudethatreallybugsme.Akidfromthe
footballteamcameintoclassoneday,askingthecoachifhecouldskippracticethatdaybecausehehadtheflu.Coachsays,
"Backinmydays,weplayedfootballnomatterwhat!Walkedtenmilesuphilltoschoolbothways!"
Heshamedakidforneedingtorestbecauseoftheflu.Andhesomehowromanticizesthisidioticattitude.It'safuckinggame!
You'rethrowingalittleballaroundtoguyswearingspandexclothes!Getoveryourself!
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[] plc268 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,Iplayedhighschoolfootball,andknowallthatverywell.Iusedtolovefootball,butyearslater,Ilookbackandjust
realizehowdumbitallwas.
Don'tgetmewrong,Istilllikefootballandstillwatchit,butit'sjustadamngame.Peopleforgetthatsometimesandtakethe
shitwaytooseriously.
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footballisfullofstupidshitlikethis.BearBryanttookhisTexasA&Mteamstothedeserttoworkthemoutandwouldn'tlet
themdrink.Coachesgetthesereallystupidideasaboutpainandcharacter.
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[] Digipete undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wrestlingisthesameway.I'llneverforgetseeingafriendofmine,thathadkickedalcoholanddrugsbytakingup
wrestling,walkuptomelookingworsethanIhadeverseenhimbefore.Iquestionedhimonhowhewasdoing:
"Greatman..."heslowlydrawledout,"WehaveameettonightandIneedtobeinthelowerweightclass...Ihaven't
eatenordrankanythingfor24hours"
Me:"Wait...WHAT?Youarestarvinganddehydratingyourselfsothatyoucanbebetteratwrestling?"
I'vehadwrestlersattempttoexplaintheconcepttome,butIstillcan'tunderstandit.Thelogicisfarfrombeingthere.
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Mydadtoldmewhenhewasinhighschoolthewrestlerswouldtakelaxativesandspendtheirlunchbreaks
shittingtomakeweight.
Wrastlin'isfuckingstupid.
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WrestlingistheonesportthatlooksfuntoplaythatimgladIdidn't.Iknewplentyofwrestlersinmytimeand
unlessyougotsomecrazygoodathleteorthecrazysmallkidthatcantputonweight(likeme),theydidsome
ridiculouslystupidshittocutweight.Keepinmind,thiswasinhighschool,wherekidsarestillgrowing!Youcant
starveagrowingbodyandbasicallyhopetoperformatyourbestandnotgetfuckedup.
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[] Jah_Ith_Ber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MySergeant(highschoolJROTC)hadalotofcatchphrasesbuttheonlyoneIrememberis,"Painisyourbody'swayoftellingyou
you'redoingsomethingwrong."
Thatquoteaboutweaknessleavingyourbodyisdumb.Thepainyoufeelwhileexercisingreallyhardiscompletelydifferentfrom
thepainofusingyourbodyincorrectly.Thatshouldn'tevenbecalledpain.Itshouldhaveanothername.Learninghowtolistento
yourbodyshouldbeaskillweworktodevelop.Determiningwhenyouarehungryversusboredisoneapplication.
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[] Tacticool_Brandon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausepeopledon'tunderstandwhenyourmusclesacheduringandafteragoodworkoutissoreness,notactualpain.
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[] rshorning undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
....becauseyoushouldn'ttakeacouchpotatooutforaworkoutandexpectingthemtoperformataprofessionalathlete
leveleither.Sometimespeopleworkingoutwhereyourmusclesareachingcanstillbeasignofoverexertion,anditis
somethingyououghttoatleasthaveatrainerhelpingoutthatcanpulltheplugevenifyouarecluelessaboutwhenyou
shouldyourself.
Ifyou'vebeendoingaworkoutandknowthedifferencebetweensorenessfromahardworkoutroutineyouhavebeen
doingforyearsandactualpain,thenyoumighthaveapoint.Thecouchpotatoworkingoutacoupleoftimesaftera
newyear'sresolutionatafitnessgymmightnotknowthedifferenceandevenworkoutwhentheyshouldn't.
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[] heyimthecatlady undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itshouldn'tevenbecalledasport.Sportsaresupposedtomakeyouhealthy.Smashingyourheadagainstotherpeopleisn'tgonna
makeyouhealthier...
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[] Whyamisoslow7777 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What???Exercise+dietingmakesyouhealthy.
sport
sprt/
noun
1.
anactivityinvolvingphysicalexertionandskillinwhichanindividualorteamcompetesagainstanotherorothersfor
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entertainment.
Nothingaboutbeinghealthythere.
Footballfitsthisdefinition100%
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[] Snicklesnack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookslikeyoujusthavedifferentdefinitions.
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I'maveteran
Withallthismedicineonmyplate
Becausethegamethatweplayed
Was"HowMuchPainCanYouTolerate?"
Canyoudoitwithoutshowingsignsofit?
Withoutfoolingyourselfsoyoudon'tknowwhenit'stimetoquit
Hellno
Well,Amen
Givemethepigskin,kid
I'mheadhuntinforSatan
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[] najodleglejszy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyoumeant"inherent",unlessyouweretryingtosayconcussioncanbehereditary.
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[] Ifmonkeyswerenickels 4256points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotsomuchsubConcussivehitsit'sthefactthatwetreatmildconcussionsasnoevents.Hearsringingandabitoflossofbalance
afterablowtotheheadisaconcussionbuteveryonetreatsitlikesitnormal.
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No,theyneedtogobacktoleatherhelmetsandnopads.Peoplewillvoluntarilystophittingashard.
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[] Yeahdudex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol@gmetersinhelmets.Whencanpeoplejustacceptthatsomeshitisbadforyourhealthanddealwithit.Thesepeoplemake
theirchoices.They'readults.Youwantalicensingboardforeveryonethatbuysapackofcigs?cmon
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[] MTknowsit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyneedalicensingboardtolicenseplayerstotackleandkeepothersoffthefield.IsweartogodIseeSOMANYPLAYERS
LEADINGWITHTHEIRHEADSIT'SINSANE.
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Isthereanywaytoputagmeterinahelmetcurrentlyevenifitsdonebytheplayersthemselves?ForinstanceCaniag
patch(somethingI'veseentheMythbustersuseforexample)andputthatinmyhelmet?
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[] Breakfast_Sausage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadlikefiveoftheseshouldIbeworried?
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[] loathengine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right,Isawadocumentarywheretheyweretalkingtoafemalesoccerplayerandaskedhertodescribeaconcussion.She
basicallysaiditwaswhenyouwentunconscious.Whenpresentedthe"medical"definitionsherealizedthatshewouldgiveherself
concussionsallthetimejustfromheadingtheball.
IhavenodoginthefightbutIwouldbejustashappyiftheNFLwentaway.Ipersonallyfeelithasntbeenaboutsportinabout40
years.Ialsothinkstudentshavetherighttoaskforpay.
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[] notgmoney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthisnotanissueinrugby?
Seemsquiteironicthatthewearingofgearthataredesignedtoprotectyouarethesamethingsenablingyoutouseyourbodyasa
weapon....
I'mAmericansoIfollowfootballandnotrugby,butitseemslikeifthiswereanissueinrugbythentherewouldbeanuproarright
aboutnowiftherehasn'talreadybeenone.
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[] NotYourAverageBeer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,it'spartofit.Likebeingagladiator.
Youmaynotwalkorlivetomorrow,butyouhaveglorytoday.
Allforourentertainment.
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[] Jon_Dougherty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icompletelyagree.Iplayfootballandwhenwegethitstotheheadandgetalittledizzywethinkit'snormalanddonothingaboutit.
Ihaveaprettybadconcussionrightnowandamgoingintoweek3ofnoschool.EvenwhenithappenedIstillplayedanother
quarterwithallthesymptomsbeforeItoldmycoachesandIendedupgettinganACjointseparationtooandhavingtogotothe
hospital.
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[] maddenmadman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tbesoquicktodismissthis.ItisabsolutelyplausiblethatsubconcussivehitstotheheadarethecauseofCTE.Thereare
manyothersportsintheworldwithhighconcussionrates(Rugby,Hockey)wheretherehasbeennolinktolaterlifebraindiseases.
Don'tgetmewrongI'mahugeNFLfanbutalsoaBiomedmajorwithhonoursinneuroscienceandIamconcernedforthefutureof
football.
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[] seithon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Strangequestion,butwhyisitthatwedon'tseethissomuchinrugbyplayers?
Myonlythoughtisthatlikeboxing,becausetheathleteswearsomucharmourandprotectionitletsthemhittheotherperson
hardermaybe?
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[] Crabmeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatyou'resayingistrue,andimpactstotheheadingeneralshouldbetakenmoreseriouslythantheyare.Butthere'salso
evidencethatrepetitivesubconcussivehitscanleadtoseriousproblemscharacterizedbyproteinbuildupinthebrainand
dementialikesymptoms,whennoneofthehitsthemselveswereseriousenoughtowarrantextraattention.Forexample,the
pathologyhasbeenidentifiedpostmorteminfootballerswhohabituallyheadedtheball,aswellasheavymetalmusicianswho
wereheadbangersaspartoftheirregularperformances.
It'sbeennamedchronictraumaticencephalopathy(CTE),andIthinkthat'sreallythecruxofwhatthey'resaying.
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[] DrunkPython undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wheniplayedhighschoolfootballigothitintheheadandallshadeswhereatintofyellow,allisawwasyellow.Stillplayedforthe
next30minbeforehalfandpeoplestartedtorealizeihadnogriponwhatwashappening.Ididgetasackandatackleforalossin
thattimethough...
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[] TheGreenJedi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gmetersinhelmets.Woah,nowthere'sagoodidea.Iwillsayhoweverthattherearepeoplewhoperformoutsideofthenorm.
(Thatguywhodeliberatelycrashescarsforaliving,hewasonStanleessuperhuman)
Icouldseecertainathletesbeingabletopointtoabilitieslikethatandsaytheydon'tneedcare.
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[] FrozenInferno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellshit,nowI'mregrettingalltheyearsIplayedfootballasakid/teenager.
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[] Scotty_the_Hamster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mildconcussions
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StephaniaBell'sheadisexplodingsomewhere
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[] usernametaken222 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nflreallyneedswhatboxingandmmahave.
60daysofnocontactaftereveryconcusionwillquicklyputtonsofpeopleontheinjuredlisttheycandoitbutthegamewillhaveto
chngewillneedfarmoredepthintheroster.
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[] rgdenis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustthesoundofimplicatingallthesedoctorsatNFLsportingeventssoundslikeakajilliondollaroperation.
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Thenflreallyneedswhatboxingandmmahave.Aseparatelicensingboardthatprovidesdoctorstowatchoverathletesandg
metersinhelmets.
AssomeonewholikesMMAbutnotfootballtheNFLdoesn'thavethis?!?!?!Whythefucknot,theyhavelike10xthemoneyand
resources!
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Ithoughttheyhad"concussionpeople"atthegamesnow?
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[] shitishouldntsay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIplayedfootballthatwascalled"gettingyourbellrung".
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[] just_tweed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Althoughitisfarfromperfectinfightingsports.Forinstance,the"nocontactuntilx"isfairlyuseless,asevenifafightercannotfight
untilheisclearedagain,it'sinthegymwheremostofthedamagehappensanyway.
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[] Seal481 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait,hearingringingandgettingdizzyisaconcussion?Shit,TILI'vehadmultipleuntreatedconcussions.
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[] mikebritton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gmetersinhelmetscouldbeexcitingtowatch,andwouldmakegoodstats.Win/win:safetyandentertainment.
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[] cmcooper2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'ttheytestthistechnologywithafewplayersontwoNFLteamsalongwiththeTarHeels'footballteam,wheretheyfound
shocker"inclusive"evidence?Itwasapartofa60minutessegmentnotlongago.
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[] Kedyn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Minorstrikestotheheadgetoutlawedthenthewholesportoffootballgetsoutlawed.AsforMMAandboxing,areyouserious?
Boxingisthebiggestcriminalwhenitcomestotonsofblowstothehead.Thatswhy,asasportsdoctor,irecommendmypatients
takeupMMAorevenbareknuckleboxingbecausethey'rebothbetterforyou.
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[] GotNoCredditFam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orgetridofthepadding.Youdon'tseeasmanyproblemsoccurringinrugbybecausetheydon'tguyashard.
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[] Sacar25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vealwayswonderedwhytheydon'tputgstickersinsidethehelmets.LikethekindthatMythbustersuseoften.Surelyoneofthose
wouldwork.
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There'salotofresearchstartingtoemergeshowingthatplayerswhoneverhaveaconcussionhavesignsofbraindamage.After
all,takingahitthat's85%ashardasahitthatwouldgiveyouaconcussion,butdoingitseveraltimesaday,sixdaysaweek,most
oftheyearfromage16intoyour30s...that'snotsomethingthehumanbrainisdesignedtohandle.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/19/offensiveplay
Thestuffinthereongmeterstudiesamongcollegeplayersisinsanetoeventhinkabout.Someoftheseguysessentiallyhavetwo
smallcaraccidentseveryday.Andtheydon'thitashardasthepros.
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[] thrombolytic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veseentalksfromathletictrainersandMDsspecializinginconcussion.Gmeterswereputinhelmets,buttheproblemwasthat
evencutsfromRBswereregisteringconcussivelevelforceswithoutanyconcussionsymptoms.
WhenIwasacollegeathlete10+yearsago,concussionwasassessedbyaskingifyoulostconsciousnessandmaybemakingyou
sitoutadayifyoudid.Now,it'sknownthatlossofconsciousnessisnotnecessary,butit'sverydifficulttodiagnosesymptoms.Itis
importanttomakeyoungathletessitoutofplayformuchlongerthanthey'dlikegaitdifferencesareseenformonths.Andresting
yourbrainfromevenvideogamesisnecessaryforappropriaterecovery.
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Istherereallymuchyoucandothough?Imeanyoucanmonitoritbutthedamageisdone.MixthatwithrepeatinjuriesandIdon't
thinkthere'salotyoucandotopreventthebraintroubleslaterinlife.
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[] flamingspew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
getridofhelmetsandpaddingandthetackleswouldgetsofter.Justlikenobodyeverdiedorrarelygotknockedoutinboxing
beforetheboxinggloveenabledboxerstohitwaaayharder.Sure,you'dgetmorebruisesandyoumaywantfaceguards,butI
assureyounobodygoingtobeslammingtheirentireweightliketheotherpersonisafeather.
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[] andrewpr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PeopleweredyingandgettingmaimedinAmericanFootballwhichiswhytheyintroducedthearmour.
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[] naosuke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
'snotsomuchsubConcussivehitsit'sthefactthatwetreatmildconcussionsasnonevents.
Justasaheadsupmildconcussionsaren'treallyathing.Thecurrentguidelinesaresimilartopregnancy,youeitherareorarenot,
thereisnosortofconcussed(justlikethereisn'tsuchathingassortofbeingpregnant)andtheyaretryingtomoveawayfromthe
mildtoseriousscale.
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[] OftenPunchDrunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tobehonest,iftheNFLhadeverythingboxinghasforheadtraumaprevention,itstillwouldn'tbeenough.
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[] ianakamel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notquite.
"Despiteouremphasisonconcussionandmanagingconcussion,itsprobablynotconcussionsthataregivingrisetothisdisease.
Infact,allourstudiesindicatethatthenumberofconcussionsdoesnotcorrelatewiththeseverityoftheCTE.Itstheamountof
exposure,thenumberofyearsplayingsports.Weknowfootballplayersget1,000to1,500subconcussivehitsperseason,evenin
highschoolthatstensofthousandsofhitsiftheyplay10years.Thesubconcussiveinjury,theasymptomaticinjury,isprobably
veryimportantindevelopingthisdisease.CTEhasonlybeenfoundinindividualswhosustainedrepetitive,cumulativetraumas."
AnnMcKee,aprofessorofneurologyandpathologyattheBostonUniversitySchoolofMedicinewhohasmadenational
headlineswithherresearchlinkingfootballandothersportstoaconditioncalledChronicTraumaticEncephalopathy,orCTE.
http://news.wisc.edu/24176
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[] ThePoorNeedChange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asaformerwrestler,canconfirmthatphysicaltraumaistakenverylightlyand"gettingbackoutthere"isunethicallyencouraged.
Thatwashighschool,though,thereforeIassumeprofessionalsportshaveamuch,muchmoreseriouswayofbeing.
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[] ldiebs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howgoodaregmetersatpredictingadversemedicalproblemslikeconcussions?
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[] crandell84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Labellingthemas"mild"contributestotheunderreportingofconcussions.Peopledon'tviewitasaseriousinjury.Hencewhythe
latestconsensusstatementsuggestsavoidingthegradingofconcussions.
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Thereisnosuchthingasasafelevelofconcussionsmicroornot.Sittingoutdoesnotreversethedamage.Allconcussionsno
matterseverityarecumulative.That'swhatthenewresearchisshowinganditsstartingtoleadtotalksaboutthesafetyofhs
footballprograms..
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[] Misterandrist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireadthatbeforefootballhelmetswereathing,youdidn'tgetthesamekindofinjuriesyoudowithhelmets,becausethehelmets
allowyoutodothingsthat'dotherwisejustkillyououtrightifyoutriedthem.Thisleadstomoreandmoreviolentstrategies,which
overtimeleadtomorebraindamage,notless.
Similarwithboxinggloves:bareknuckleboxingisbloodyandgory,sotheystartedusingboxinggloveswhichdon'tletthedamage
besoobvious.Thisleadstopeoplegettinghitintheheadmorewithoutstopping,leadingtomoreinjury.
Idon'tknowifitisactuallytrue,butitsoundedinterestingtome.
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[] Yourselfie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahtheyneedtochangetobalet,wholehuggingmeninshinypantsisnotmanlyalready
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[] Im_A_Racehorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsexpensive.Justmakeanotherridiculousruletothegameandcalliteven.
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[] piemango undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thebrainissofragile.I'veheardyoucangetbraindamagesimplyfromwaterskiing.
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[] Jabberwocky13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Hedidn'thaveaconcussion,hejusthadhisbellrung"issomethingIhearalot.Thatneedstonotbeinourvernacular.
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Forcemeterswouldn'tbeeffective,atleastaccordingtowhatweknowaboutconcussions.Somepeoplearemoresusceptiblethan
otherstoconcussionssoaquantitativenumber.Evenasystemthatdingswhenaplayergetshitwithxforceinthehelmetdoesn't
meananotherplayerhasn'tgottenaconcussionwhenhisdidn'tding.
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[] BrokenFood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ormaybeadoptrugbytackling?Wraporpenalty.
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[] sparkyjay23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Linemenaregoingtobegoneinourlifetimeiftheyeverstartlookingatthecollisionsattheline.
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[] Highside79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,andamonthoffbetweengames.
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[] AtheosWrath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MaybetheNFLcouldremoveallpaddingandthehelmet,andmakeitillegaltomakeatackleabovetheshoulders.
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[] blabliblub3434 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iwouldpreferthelittleressourceofdoctorstheworldhave,somewehrepeoplearen'tfuckingthemselfmoneyandanation
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supportingit.
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[] clomjompsonjim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HereinAustraliarugbyisaprettybigdeal,andit'sthesamestory.Causesmassivebraindamage,andsomehowisallowedto
continueuncriticised
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[] zero_space undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisalsotheargumenttoremovetheheavyprotectionelementslikethesethickhelmets.Ifyoulookatothersportslikerugby,
theyarewaylesspronetoinjurybecausetheyaremorecarefulnottogethurtbecausetheyarelessprotected
Iheardasimilarargumentaboutboxinggloves,thatoncethosewerecommonplacesevereheadinjuriesandbraindamage
becamemoreprevalentduetonothavingtobreakallyourknucklestohitaguyashardaspossible.
Notsurehowmuchmerittheseargumentshave,buttheyareinteresting.
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[] VelveteenAmbush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotsomuchsubConcussivehits
Whereisyourevidenceforthatclaim?
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None.opisjustwrong.
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[] KingsCrossing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisn'tany.AdkaneurologistoraneuroscientistworkingonTBIresearchandthey'lltellyouitsthenumberof
subconcussivehits>poortreatmentofmildones
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[] Trapped_SCV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactlythis.WhichiswhyWRandQBsgetlotsofconcusions,buthaven'tbeenthemostcommonCTIcases.
Whereaslinemenarethemajorityofcasesandalmostnevergetconcusions.
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[] arrachion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
gmetersinhelmets
...wouldprobablyshutdownthegame.
I'vealwaysadvocatedforsmallerpads/helmets.Ifyou'renotinvincibleyouwon'tdiveatanapposingplayerlikeyouare.Smaller
helmets,similartohockey,wouldmeanmoreheaduptacklesandlessleadingwiththehead.
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[] iPeeLavaLampGoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IforgotwhereIsawit,buttheysaidthatthemajorityofbrainissueslaterinthelivesofplayersoccurredinlinemen.Theguyswho
haverepeatedsmallimpactswithotherplayersatthestartofplays.Not,likeIwouldhaveassumed,therunningbacksand
receiverswhotakebiggerhits,butlessoften.
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[] Cato94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfIrecallcorrectly,RiddellputGmetersinsomeoftheirhelmetsafewyearsago.
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[] Emphursis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mknowbuggerallaboutNFL,butdoyounothavesomekindofheadinjuryassessmentifthereisanastyknock?Ifthereisabad
blowtotheheadinrugby,orthemedicalstaffsuspecttheremaybeaconcussion,theplayergoesoffforanassessment(it
happenedinthefirstminuteofthegameIwasattoday).Iftheypass,theycancomebackonandfinishthegame,butotherwise
theyhavetogothroughareturntoplayprotocolwhichinvolvesanumberoftestsoverthecourseofseveraldays.Iftheyfailany
oneofthem,theygobacktothestart.
Obviouslyitdoesn'tstopconcussions,it'sacontactsport!Butitdoeshelptoensuretheinjuryisn'taggravatedbytheplayercoming
backtoosoon.
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Foundthebrit/aussie
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[] buckygrad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Toansweryourquestion,yestheyhaveaprotocolplayersneedto"pass"inordertoassesswhetherornottheyarefittogo
backin.Theseassessmentsareconductedbyindependentneuralspecialists.
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[] Dorago1991 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyjustrecentlyimplementedasystemwiththirdpartydoctorsacoupleofyearsagoactually,andit'smuchbetterthanit
usedtobe.However,playersstillwanttobetoughsowhentheydohaveamildconcussiontheytendtohideitsotheydon't
getcheckedoutinthefirstplace.
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Theyaresupposetobutwhatsinterestingisthatnoteveryonedoes.IthinkitwasduringlastyearsSuperbowlandPatriots
playerJasonEdelmanreceivedaverynastyhitthatwasobviouslyaconcussion.Hekepthimselfinthegame,playedthrough
it,andwouldn'tcomeoutandactuallybecameahero.
Itdisgustedme.
Hereisanarticleaboutit.http://www.newyorker.com/news/sportingscene/superbowlsconcussioncalculation
Andthehit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgC6LzCa9zA
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[] btmp508 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydoallthosetestsaswell,butIdosuspecttheyarecheatedattimes
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[] rcw00 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,therehavebeenchangesimplementedoverthepastfewyears.Playersandcoacheshavebeeneducated.Team
doctorsonthesidelineshavebeengivenconcussionprotocolstofollow.TheNFLevenprovidesanofficialConcussion
Spotterforeverygame,setupinthepressboxareasoverlookingtheentirefield.Thisperson'ssoledutyistolookoutforany
playerwhomayhavetakenabighitandthespotterhastheauthoritytostopthegameimmediatelyandorderaplayertoget
attention.TheNFLhasdonesomuchforplayers'safety!!!Nowhere'savideoofStLouisRam'squarterbackCaseKeenum
gettinghisheadslammedandnotbeingabletostandup.Hewasnotremovedfromthegame,thegamedidnotstop,play
continued.Thishappenedjustlastweekend.
http://youtu.be/ZVUVwhIcBAg
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Areyouusingaspeechtotextconverter?Whydidyouspell'no'as'know'?
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[] Matador91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YestheNFLhasregulations.Idon'tknowthemexactlyoffthetopofmyheadbutdoctorsthatworkfortheleaguehavestrict
regulationsregardingifaplayerpassesexaminationstoplayagain.Ithinkboththeleagueandtheteamhavetheirown
doctorswhodotwodifferentteststogetanunbiasedexaminationoftheplayer.EveryonelikestomaketheNFLouttobethe
badguybutintheendtheseguyssignedupforthissodon'tbesurprisedandcomplainwhenyourbrainisfuckedupbecause
youwantedtobeaProfootballplayer.Theleaguehasabadhistoryofcoveringupconcussioncasesandsuchsothedebate
istwofoldbutmyopinionisthatplayersshouldn'tseekcompensationforinjuriestheygotthroughvoluntarilyparticipationin
profootball.
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ThisisthefirstyearthereisanINDEPENDENTdoctorwhodoestheexamination.Before,thedoctorsweretheteamdoctors
weredoingthepostconcussionprotocolandtheteamsbestinterestistohavetheplayerskeepplaying,sotheyletthem
keepplayingbesidebeinginjured.Thatswhyyousometimesusedtoseeplayerswalkingaroundconfusedonthefield.Now
becauseofthebacklashtheyrebeingSUPERcautious.Ifitevenlookslikeyourehittoohardthemyoureoutofthegame.
Whichithinkitsagoodthing.
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[] SoGoesTheGun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyrecentlyinstitutedarulethatplayerssuspectedofheadinjuriesmustbeclearedbyanindependentdoctorbefore
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returningtothefield,butoneoftheproblemsisplayerswillavoidit/itwillbemissedintheheatoftheaction.Earlierthis
seasonarunningbackfortheTexans(ArianFoster),kindadodgedtheteamdoctorandwentbackonthefield(thoughthe
refereesstoppedthegameaplayorsolatertogethimoffthefield,anothernewerrulethatisnotutilizedenough).Anda
moredrasticincidenthappenedjustlastweek,whenquarterbackoftheRamsCaseKeenumwasclearly"shakenup"inthe
waningmomentsofthegame,stumblingaboutandwhatnot.Buthewasn'ttakenout,andonthenextplayjustseemed
disoriented,droppedtheball,theotherteamrecovered,anditcosttheRamsthegame.Obviouslythelossisn'tthebiggest
thing,butitdrewpeopletotheincident.Soyeah,they're"trying",butit'snotgoingverywell
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[] TeroTheTerror undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereactuallyisamedicalchecklist(morethanone,butoneofthemorerecentlyupdatedones),ithastheunfortunatename
SCAT3.Standsforsidelineconcussionassessmenttest,I'mprettysurethat'swhattheNFLuses,andmaybeMLStoo.
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[] GrindyMcGrindy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftheypass,theycancomebackonandfinishthegame,
Thisisanawfulideaforanykindofsport.Theyneedtorealizethatconcussionsymptomscansetinaftertheydothe
examination.Iftheyevensuspectaconcussionofanykind,theplayershouldbepulledandunderextendedobservation.
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[] CKtheFourth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TwodifferencesbetweenrugbyandUSfootballlieinhowsomeoneistackled.
Inrugby,nooneiswearingpadding,saveforamouthpiece,ascrumcap,andacup.InUSfootball,everyoneisessentially
armored.TheylooklikehulkingtanksevenWRs&QBs.There'sadifferenceintechniqueforarugbyplayer&aUSfootball
playerlookingtotacklesomeoneelse.Youcan'thitashardifyou'rewearingnopadding.
Second,there'satechnicaldifferenceoftacklingsomeonetostopaplay&tacklingsomeonetostartaruck.Inwatchingand
beingonrecleaguesforbothsports,Ithinkthere'smuchlessimportanceonanindividualtackleinrugby.Ruggerswillgo
down&aruckwillformtheteaminpossessionhasachancetokeeppossessioniftheyworkfastenough.So,forthetackler
&thetackled,atthepointofcontact,it'simportanttogodownquicklyandproperly.
InUSfootball,atackleisaperiodattheendofaplay,orsubconcussivehitsaremeanttobepurposefullyobstructive(I'm
thinkingoftheoffensive&defensivelineshere).Infootball,thereisnoincentivetogodown.
IthinkbothofthesethingsleadtowayharderhittingintheNFL.That'swheretheunfixablepartoftheproblemisthatthe
originalguywastalkingabout.
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[] IAmA_Lommy_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhilethereisaprotocolformajorconcussionsintheNFL,asinrugby,perhapsanaccumulationof'undertheradar'hitsto
theheadcontributetolongtermhealtheffects.Therearewaymorecollisionsinfootballthaninrugby(harderhitsand
blocking),sothisprocesswouldbemoreprevalentamongstNFLandotherfootballplayers.
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[] I_Eat_Your_Pets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,therehasbeen,inthepasfewyears,astrictconcussionprotocolintheNFL
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[] coregmrconman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLisn'tevencoveringhealthexpensesforretiredplayers.It'saservantsport.
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[] PatDude0000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotoverlyfamiliarwithRugby,butI'dsayabigdifferenceisprobablytheimportanceasingleplayercanhaveinfootball
overrugby.
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[] walruswearingavest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyhavesomenewsortofthinglikethisthisyearbutI(andmanycommentators)havenoticedthattheydon'tactually
followthroughwithpullingofftheplayerstheyshouldeverytime.
Example:St.LouisquarterbackCaseKeenumslammedhisheadhardlastweekendandthenstumbledaboutandfellover.
Hewasn'tcalledofftobeexamined.PossiblebecausehewasaQB?Butwhoknows.Pointisthatnewprotocolseemsto
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TheNFLjustadoptedsimilarrulesthispastyear.Plentyofplayershavebeenbenchedduetothis.Theproblemiswithminor
hits,andplayerslyingabouthowtheyfeelsotheycanmeetcontractobligations.
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[] hippyengineer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NFLhasthis,buttheyarepurposefullytryingtomakeitseemliketheyareaddressingtheissueofplayerhealth,whenin
realitytheyaredoingeverythingtheycantoavoidparentsofjuniorhighboysthinking,"eh,I'dratherhimnotruntheriskof
headinjury,justbaseballandbasketballformyboy."
Thisdestroystheirtalentpool.
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[] literally_I_cant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youcouldn'tsoundmoreAustralian
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[] Emphursis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Funnythat,givenhowI'mEnglish...
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[] FrankGoreStoleMyBike undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Startingjustthisseason,theNFLinitiatedthe"concussionprotocol".AnNFLemployeeonthefieldwhowatchestheplayers.
Iftheysuspectaconcussiontheyhavetheplayerpulledimmediatelyandtested.Iftheypass,theycanplay.Iftheyfail,
they'redoneforthegameandsentformoretreatment/tests.
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[] VaguelyNativeMurican undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLrecently(afewyearsago)setupasimilarprogram.Buttherehavebeensomeproblems.Forexample,lastweek
theSt.LouisRamsQBtookabighitinthefinalfewminutesofthegame.Thecoachingstaff,independentdoctorsandthe
trainersallmissedobvioussignsofconcussionandhestayedinthegame.Theplayerisbeingheldoutofthisweek'sgame
becausehedidn'tpasstheconcussionprotocolduringtheweek.
TheNFLandthemediawereroastingtheteamallweek.
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[] twistedlimb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
asarugbyplayingamerican,therulesoffootballneedtochange.theydonthavetowrap,theyusetheirheadsacrossother
playersbodies,andtheycanhitpeoplewithouttheball.moreandmorekidssignuptoplaysoccereveryyear,iftheydont
changethegametherewillbelessandlesspeopleplaying.
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[] drarch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Storytime:
Mycollegeroommatewasa'gunner'onpuntsandkickoffs.Thismeanthisjobwastobethefirstguydownthefieldtotryto
tacklethereturnman,butwhatusuallyhappenstogunnersisthey'rethefirsttocollidewithblockerswaitingforthem.
Becauseoftheintensityoftheplay,it'scommonforgunnerstogethitintheheadprettyhard.
Myroommate,afteronesuchincidentthatdentedhishelmetandchippedsomepaintoff,hadtoberestrainedonthesideof
thefieldbythetrainingstaffforwantingtogobackinthegame.Heapparentlyblackedoutthroughmostofit,butdidsome
funnystufftryingtogetthetrainingstafftogivehimbackhishelmet.
He'sagreatguy,andishealthy,buthebelieveshe'shad7concussions.It'sscarytothinkthathisenthusiasmforagame
whenhe's20yrsoldmaydiminishthenext60yrsofhislife.
It'shardtotellathletesto'playsafe'iftherulesdon'trequireit,becauseinevitablyathleteswillpushthemselvestothebrinkto
gainacompetitiveedge.Thegameneedstochange,andaslongasthegameisabigbusiness,it'sunlikelytheNFLwill
willinglydoanythingsubstantialtofixit.
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[] tribblepuncher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obviouslyitdoesn'tstopconcussions,it'sacontactsport!Butitdoeshelptoensuretheinjuryisn'taggravatedbythe
playercomingbacktoosoon.
I,too,knowlittleoftheNFL.AndIamnotadoctor.ButIhavebeenundertheimpressionforsometimethatoneoftheworst
thingsaboutaminorconcussion/subconcussiveblowisn'tsomuchthestrikeitself,it'ssubjectingtheinjurytorepeated
traumaafterthefact.Unfortunatelythat'sbadforbusiness,becausethatmeansalotofplayersaresidelinedforatleastthe
gameandpossiblyalargeportionoftheseason,soIwouldn'tbeabitsurprisedifthedoctorsareundersignificantpressure
tolet"minor"thingsslide.Dothattenortwelvetimesononeguyandthegroundworkfordegenerativediseasesislikelylaid
out.Ialsowouldn'tbesurprisediftheysearchspecificallyfordoctorswhocanbe"reasoned"withthey'vecertainlygotthe
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cashandclouttobechoosy.
Again,though,notadoctor.
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[] Kolecr01 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereisnomeansofdefiningorobjectivelydiagnosingaconcussionoritsseverity.
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[] crank_bank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Outlawhelmetsinfootball.Theseplayersfeelinvinciblewiththemon.Therelessinjuriesinrugbyforareason.Theplayers
don'thiteachotherashardinordertoprotectthemselves.
Problemsolved.
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[] Junkee2990 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeswehavesomethingsimilar.Wehavetheconcussionprotocolthattheyhavetopassinordertogetinthegameoreven
playinthegamethenextweekiftheydidn'tpassitthefirsttime.TheNFLisgettingbetterbutnoquitethereyet.
PersonallyIdon'tthinkthereisevergoingtobeahappymedium.Helmettohelmethitsareofcourseillegalbuttheyarea
productfthegame.Theseguysaresofastandbigthatitisatthispointinevitable.Wealreadyhavethedefenselessreceiver
rulewhichbasicallymakesitimpossibletohitarecorderveryharduntilhisfeetareplantedandmakesafootballmove..which
kindoffucksthedefenders.
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[] errorsniper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ittookuntiltheyear2015fortheNFLtoimplementthis.
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[] Spud_fAce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyspendsomuchtimeshowingterribleadsandnotactuallyplayingI'msuretheycouldgiveupanotherminuteortwoto
checkonpotentiallyconcussedplay.
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[] Zulous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatruleisfairlynewinrugbyandconcussionistreatedseriously.Forexampleasingleconcussionisbetween1and3
weekssuspendedfromcontact,aconcussionafterreturningtoplayingresultsinalongersuspensionfromcontact.George
northhad3monthsofsuspendedcontactbecauseofsomanyconcussionsinsuchaclosetimeandanotherwillresultina
longtimefrombeingabletoplay.TheIRBpromotessafeplayandit'ssogoodtoseefromsuchadangeroussport.
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[] RCDrift undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notsureifanyonehassaidthisyet,butthenfljustinstitutedthepracticeyoudescribedthisyear.Independentphysicians
havetoevaluateplayersandsignoffonthemreenteringthegame.Ifaconcussionhappenstheplayerentersconcussion
protocolsandismonitoredtilltheyareabletoreturn.Couldbeaweek,orcouldbeaseveralweeks.Italldependsongetting
signedoffonbythephysiciansasbeing100%healthy.
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Theissuesofconcussionsisasnewinrugbyasitingridiron.Even5yearsago,wedidn'thavethislevelofattentioninrugby
aswedonow.
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[] jmadden287 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLhasthis(sortof).Atheoreticallyunbiasedmedicalprofessionalisassignedtoeveryteamandthatpersonis
responsiblefordeterminingwhetherornottheplayershouldreturntothegame.Iftheyareconcussed,theyenterconcussion
protocol.
Sometimeseveryonemissesit(YouTubeCaseKeenumconcussion)
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[] Kiwispam84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
buggerall
Thismakesmesuspectyouplayfootballwitharoundball...
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[] DethKlokBlok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwatchafairamountofrugbybutstilldon'tunderstandhowtheplayersdon'tgetconcussionsconstantly.
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[] LaVieLaMort undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theymadethisquarterbackgobackinandplay.Asyoucansee,heisobviouslyconcussed.Hetookaprettyhardhit.
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/keenum2.gif
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[] masterhan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Infootballyouhaveahelmet.It'saweaponsoheadinjuriesversusrugbyandothercontactsportscannotreallybe
compared.
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[] andrewpr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ahelmetstopsthephysicaltraumatotheskinandboneofthehead,butdoeslittletohelptheextremeGforcesthe
brainexperiencesincollisions.Becausetheplayersarewearinghelmetstheyaremakinghitstheywouldn'tdo
otherwise.
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[] macedgod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowabouttheNFLbutidoknowfrompersonalexperienceattheNCAAlevelaverysimilarprotocoltothisisfollowed
formostsports
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Giventhehitratesinthegame,thatcouldrequiresignificantlylargerteamsjusttogetthroughasinglegame.It'snothardto
imagineatleast1playerbeingremovedfromthegameaftereachplay.
Itcoulddestroytheentiresport.Iwouldn'tmindanendoffootball,though.Theamountofmoneythatcitiesspendon
stadiums,forsuchtinyrevenueinreturn,isinsane.Sportsfansareaverypowerfulspecialinterestgroup,andfootball
stadiumsarepracticallyuselessforanythingexceptfootball.Baseballstadiumsareafinanciallossforalmosteverycitytoo,
butnotnearlyasmuchbecausetherearesomanymorebaseballgamesperstadiumcomparedtofootball.
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[] aatencio91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLdoeshaveasimilarpolicy.There'scurrentlycontroversybecausetheStLouisRamsquarterbackwasclearly
concussedonSunday(hewaswobbly,lookeddrunk)butthedoctoronthesidelineswhoissupposedtocarryoutthe
analysisjustdidn'tforsomereason.Thedoctordidn'tdemanditandthereforetheheadcoachdidn'tpulltheplayerfromthe
game.
Ishouldpointoutthatthedoctorisa"thirdparty"doctor.He'snotemployedbytheteamsohewon'tbebiasedtowardsthe
teamsoheshouldn'tbekeepingstarsinwhentheyneedtobepulled.Heis,however,employedbytheNFL,meaninghe's
gettingmoneyfromanorganizationthatlooksworseinthepubliceyewitheveryconcussion.
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RugbysuffersfromthesamesafetyopticsasMMAdoes...lessprotectiveequipmentmakesthegamelookmoredangerous
wheninfactthelackofequipmentontheattacker(andproper/differenttacklingrules)makeitsafer.
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[] Nitsua642 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisissupposedtohappen.Thereareindependentdoctorsonbothsidelineswhoaresupposedtoevaluateplayerswhothey
suspectofhavingaconcussion.Thereisalsosomeoneintheboothabovethegamewatchingforpossibleconcussivehits
whohastheauthoritytosuspendplayandpullaplayeroutforevaluation.Howeverthisdoesn'talwayshappen,Ithinklast
week,RamsquarterbackCaseKeenumtookahardhitontheturf,wasvisiblyshaken,hadtroublestanding,andshouldhave
beentakenout.Hewasnot,twoplayslaterhefumbledandtheRamslost.Helaterwasfoundtohaveaconcussion.
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[] cattastrophe0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyhaveaconcussionprotocol,butitisnotalwaysenforced.Importantplayersdoanythingtogetoutofit.Andsometimes
theteamdoesn'tnoticetheconcussion.Independentdoctorsonthesidelinewouldprobablyhelpalot.I'veseenplayerstake
anastyhitandgrabtheirhelmetsandrunbackontothefieldbeforeanyonecanstopthem.
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[] UNZxMoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereareacoupleonthefieldteststhatcanbeperformed,andifthereareanysymptomsofconcussionthatoccurthenat
leastupuntiltheNFLtheplayercannotparticipate.
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[] YouShallKnow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'showlittleadealtheyare.IwasknockedunconsciousinPopWarnerfootballwhenIwas9yearsold.ButsinceI
tackledtherunner,causedafumbleand"recovered"it(reallyitjustlandedonme)Iwasuniversallylauded.
IhadtobetoldwhathappenedasIhadnorecollectionofit.Goodtimes.Probablyhadabout10ofthosehitsinthe11yearsI
playedfootball,probablyinflictedover100.
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[] Leather_Boots undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisonlyarelativelyrecent(forthebetter)changeforrugby.WhenIplayedrugbymanyyearsagoifyoutookaknockto
thehead,oranywhereelse,outcamethe"magic"water.Youdrankabit,somewasappliedtotheinjuryandyougotbackup
andkeptplayingfortheteam.
Dislocatedfingerswerejusttapedup.Ifyouweregroggy,youwouldrunitoff.Theoldadageofoccasionallyhavingtoturna
fewoftheforwardsaroundathalftimeandsay"nowwearerunningtowardssuchandsuchanend"ismoretodowiththe
knockstotheheadtheyreceived,ratherthanbeingstupid.
Themagicwaterwasnothingmorethancoldtapwater.
Therewereanumberofhighprofilerugbystars(BrianO'Driscollforone)thatsufferedfrequentheadinjuriesandoftenkept
playing.
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[] RoboMallCop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneofthebigproblemswiththeseconcussionprotocolsisthatthere'snoevidencethattheymeananything.Wehaveno
reasontobelievethatpassingtheprotocolmeansthere'snosignificantdamageandnofurtherrisk.It'sjustaPRmoveso
thatitlookslikethey'redoingsomething.
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[] stash600 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sexactlytheprocessthathappensintheNFL.Unfortunately,justaboutevery40seconds22guysaremakingcontact
withsomethingwiththeirhelmeteachandeveryplaytothepointwhereit'sroutine.Sometimeguysgetpulledoff,butit's
usuallyaftertheirlyingonthegroundunconscious,inbetweendrives,orifthey'reliterallywalkingaroundstumbling.Andeven
then,likeinthecaseofCaseKeenumlastweek,there'snoguaranteethatsomeonecatchesit.
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[] Yeti_Poet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsanAmericanwhoplaysrugby,no,there'sjustnothingcomparable.
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[] CARNNNAGE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yes,it'scalledtheMACEexam.themilitaryusesitforTBI's(traumaticbraininjuries)aswell,butitwasoriginallydeveloped
forfootballplayers(IbelieveatacollegeinVirginia).
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[] illdothiseventually undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheproblemwiththeNFListhedoctorsarehiredbytheteams.Obviouslythey'renotjustsendingoutconcussedplayers,but
theydownplayinjuries.Thiswoulddefinitelybesolvedifthedoctorswerehiredbytheleagueandhadnotiestotheteam.
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[] MisterWoodhouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtaleaguedoctorwasinvolvedintheconcussionprotocolnow.Isthatnotthecase?
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[] illdothiseventually undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilookeditupmoreandmycommentispartiallywrong.Doctorsarestillhiredbytheteam,howeverthereare
separatedoctorswhoaretheretocheckforconcussions.
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[] MisterWoodhouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhatIthought.Concussionprotocoltypicallyinvolvestwoorthreefolkswithoneofthemdoingallthe
talking,soIassumethat'stheleaguedoctorandtheotheroneortwoareteamdoctorsdoingtheirjobas
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[] stormstalker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyaresupposedtobeindependentthirdpartydoctors,yes.Whetherornottheyalwaysperformassuchis
opentoquestion,butfromwhatI'veseenit'smoreofaproblemwithidentifyingproblemsignsinthefirstplace
ratherthandownplayingordeliberatelyallowingaconcussedplayertoplay.
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[] coldmtndew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItisexactlythesamewayintheNFL
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[] 2meaty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NicetoseeLondonchimneysweepsweighingin.Sorry,ijustreadthatinacockney(spelling?)accent.
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[] BosquitoMaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icurrentlyplayhighschoolballandidosayyeswedohaveamoderatelyseverereactiontoconcussionsandwealsohavea
returntoplayprotocol.However,oneofthebiggestproblemsiseeatleastatthwhighschoollevelisdiagnosinganythings
wronginthefirstplace.Hugehitshappennearlyeveryplayandmanyplayers,chalkingituptoeitherwantingtoseemtough
orwantingtoshowdedicationtotheteamplaythroughasifnothinghappened.
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[] BaconAllDay2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyhaveaconcussionprotocolbutit'shardlya100%implemented.https://youtu.be/204GsqfRlKcQBgetssacked.Visibly
displaying"heain'talright".Normallyamedicaltimeoutwouldstopplayandtakehimouttobetestes.Wasnotcalledandno
coachtriedtogethimout.
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[] Yeti_Poet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Reallydisgusting
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WelltheNFLdoesthistoo,it'sjustwhetherornotyoucantrustthedoctortoremaincompletelyimpartial.Thedoctorsare
oftenasemotionallyinvestedintheteamastheplayers,hasn'tbeenalotofcoverageofthisbutadocumentaryabouta
deceasedhockeyplayernailedthisissueperfectlyandshedsomelightforme.IfIcanremembercorrectlythereareacouple
teamsthatusemoreorless3rdpartydoctorsandmedicalstaff(fromuniversitysetc)andtheytendtositpeopleoutfarmore
often.IbelieveinthedocumentaryIreferencedearlierTheWashingtonRedskinsprovideaboveaveragecarefortheir
players,andaren'teasyonlettingthingsslideandgettingthembackonthefieldbyhandingthemafistfulofpillsandgiving
theminjectionsmultipletimesagame.Thecultureofbeingapussyifyou'rehurtandnotsittingoutunlessyou'redying
doesn'thelpeither.
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Thecultureofbeingapussyifyou'rehurtandnotsittingoutunlessyou'redyingdoesn'thelpeither.
Ithinkthisismoreafactoroftheamountofmoneythatthey'repayingtheseguystoputthemselvesinthemeatgrinder.
Ifyoudon'tplaythegamesyou'regettingpayedfor,youloseoutonalotofpotentialpayola.
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Yeahyou'rerightit'shardtonegotiateahugepaydayifyou'reinjuredconstantly,andtheaverageathletespeak
earningpotentialisgenerallyprettylowbutespeciallyintheNFLwhereretirementisespeciallylow.Ifyoubreakit
downfurthertoeachpositionit'sevenmoredamningasthemorejarringandfrequentthecollisionsareforeach
respectivepositiontheagedecreasesquiteabit.
Theweakerthanotherleaguesplayerprotectionintheircontractsforinjuries,primarilythelackofaguaranteed
contract,butevenincludingthe"upanddown"salarystructurethat'softenoverlooked.Thedifferencebetweenup
anddownmayseemsmallbutwhenyoumightonlybethereforacoupleofyearsit'shardnottojusttakethe
injectionsandpillsandworryaboutyourhealthlater.
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Asafootballfanitpainsmetosaythis,butthecontractstheseplayersgetabsolutelysuck.Unlessyou'reastar,verylittleis
guaranteed.Andsittingoutbecauseofaninjuryisareallygoodwaytoloseyourjob.
NFLneedstomakemoreofthemoneyguaranteed.Playersshouldn'tfearsayingthey'reinjured.
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"TheCWord"BlueMountainState
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Isaytheyshouldgetamilliondollarsupfront.Spreadoutin100Kincrementsoverayearofprofessionalplay.Atthe
endofwhichtheyreceiveanothermillion.Butfortheentiretimetheyareoncontractit'sanythinggoesandtheysign
awaytheirpersonalhealthandanyimplications.Playhardfallhardtheyknowwhatthey'regettinginto.
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[] ptwonline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shouldalsoexpandtheactiverosterssothatthereislesspressuretogetaconcussed(orotherwiseinjured)player
backonthefieldjustbecauseofashortageofbodiesatthatposition.
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[] hawks0311 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseewhatyou'resayingbutIdon'treallyfeelbadforsomeonethatgetsinjuredandlosestheirjob.Chancesarethey
gotafreecollegeeducationandmaketheleagueminimum,whichIdon'tknowoffhand,butisprobablymorethana
physicianmakes.
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[] Hulkhagan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plusforsomepositionsinfootball,playersgethitintheheadhard,everyplay.Ifyougetyourbellrungandsayyou
needtocomeout,you'regonnahaveatoughtimecompetingwithotherplayerswhowilldoanythingtostayinthe
game.Inrugby,therearen'tnearlyasmanyhitsthatcauseconcussions.Thehelmetprovidesafalsesenseofsecurity
forplayersandsotheyattemptharderandmoreriskyhits.
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Goodellbotismalfunctioningagain.
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[] megafartcloud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sogoingtocollegedebtfreeandgettingmillionsofdollarssucks?
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Notmanyprofessionsresultinguaranteedretardation.Onalongenoughtimeline,everyplayer'sbrainturnsto
mush.
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[] megafartcloud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butitisn'tguaranteedretardation,isit?Callingexfootballretardedisapettyinsulttoo.
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[] savvygrizzly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Playerscollectivelybargainedformorefrontloadeddeals,though.
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[] sheeplipid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tplayersgetinsurance?IfJlocaninsureherbutt,I'msureNFLplayerscangetinsuranceforcareerending
injuries.Idon'tthinkforcingteamstopayisrightifaplayerisn'taroundtoplay.Guaranteedpayshouldremainabenefit
forattractingtoptalent.
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Lloyd'sofLondonwillinsureanythingattherightprice.
JLoismuchlessriskythanfootballplayerX.
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[] ApolloFortyNine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sworthpointingoutalotofplayerswouldsay,evenbeforethemildconcussion,they'drathergobackintothegame.
It'stheirlives,andtheygetpaidprettydamnwellascompensation.Inrealitynohitstotheheadwouldobviouslybethe
bestscenario,butthenfootballwouldn'tevenbeallowed.
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[] brachiosaurus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthethebillionaireownersmightnotmakemoney!
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[] DanGliesack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thebignameplayersactuallyhaveachoiceaboutwhetherthecontractsareguaranteedornot.Theychoosetosign
larger,partiallyguaranteeddealsoversmaller,fullyguaranteedones.
TheNFLisnotafreeandopenmarket.Theplayersasawholealreadyknowhowmuchmoneytheywillmakeinany
givenyear.Contractnegotiationsbetweenplayersandteamsdeterminehowthatmoneyissplitupbetweentheplayers,
itdoesnotdeterminehowmuchtheplayers(asawhole)willget.
SowhenanNFLteamcancutaplayerwithoutguaranteeinghissalary,theteamrarelypocketsthatmoney.Instead,
themoneyisspentonadifferentplayer.Soifoneplayerisguaranteedtokeepthemoney,thenextplayerwillreceive
less.Theultimateresultofthisisthatguaranteeingallcontractswillmakethebiggestcontractssmallerthoughitwill
certainlyhelptheplayersmakingtheleast.
That'swhytheNFLPAneverreallymakesguaranteedcontractsamajoremphasis.They'dratherjustgetmore$to
playersasawhole,andlettheindividualplayersdecideonacasebycasebasiswhetherthey'dratherhaveabig
quasiguaranteeddealorasmallerfullyguaranteeddeal.Now,ifthiswasatotallyopenmarketiftheplayersasa
wholedidn'thaveasetnumberoftotal$tomakeeachyearthenguaranteedcontractswouldbeabigdeal.Butitisn't,
soitmattersverylittle.
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[] Anon_Guy1985 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtThanksgivingIhadaninlawtellmetheseguysareeasyoverpaid.Lol...
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TheNFLPAshouldworkwiththeNFLtomakethathappen.
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[] thatbattleboi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoyoumeanbysuck?I'mprettymostofthoseguysgetpaidaheftysumofmoney.Eventheplayerswhosuck
getanicepaychecktositonthebench.Also,itsagameattheendoftheday.Theygrewupplayingitforfreeandnow
theymake6figuresforit.
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[] hastyle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theplayersneedtonegotiatetheirtermsbetterwhenthenextcollectivebargainingagreementisdue.Iseecomplaints
abouttheircontractsallthetime,buttheplayer'sunionneedstodoabetterjobatnegotiatinghealthcare,guaranteed
money,etc.
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[] apocalypsebaconstrip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Especiallywhenitsnotliketheyaren'talreadymassivelypopular.WatchedtheUF/FSUgameearlier(gonoles!)not3
playsincommercial.Overthenearly4hourlongspanitseriouslyfeltlikeachoretowatchbecauseofconstantlybeing
bentoverbycommercialbreaks.Theymakemorethanenoughmoneysoit'snotliketheycan'taffordtomakethe
contractslessconditional.
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[] aliendude5300 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EventhelowestpaidNFLplayersmakelike$700K.It'snottoobad
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[] xboxer102 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLisbyfarthemostsuccessfulleagueintheUSbutNFLplayershavetheworstunionoutofallthemajorsports.
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Theaveragecareeristhreeseasonsofbarelyanydough
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Thesamekindofdebateshavebeenhappeningwithrugby.Generallyplayersdon'tfearsayingthey'reinjuredwhen
they'vehadaheadinjury,theywanttokeepplaying,theythinkthey'reok.
It'swantingtoplaywhenyoushouldn'tthatisthemainproblem.It'salltooeasytoshrugoffdizzinessetc.It'llcome
backtoyoulater.
That'swhyweneedotherstoactuallymakethecallofwhetherwemightwellbehurt.
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[] robaroo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andasafootballfanyouknowmakingmoreofthemoneyguaranteedismorecomplicatedthanitseems.
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[] DoctorPanda247 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecontracttheyreceivesuckssobad...Especiallysincetheycanaffordtoretireintwoyearssincetheycanliveoff
themillionstheymakeduringthattime.Ifeelsobadforthemman.
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[] red_beanie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichisfuckedtosaybecausetheyliterallymakebillions.Suchasmallamountgoestotheplayersfromsucha
massivemassivepot.
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[] Heroinunicorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IplayOguardandDtackleonmyhighschoolteam.Ihavebeenplayingfor2yearsandreceived2concussions.The
positionsinvolvemostlythrowingyourownbodyintotheperson,ormaybeusingatechniquelikechopping,which
involvesshootingattheirfeet.Buthonestly,I'mluckytohavereceivedonly2.Akidonmyteamwhohadbeenplaying
sincebantam,hashadover5.Heisnolongerallowedtoplay.
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[] marbanasin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah.Theirinsuranceguaranteesarealsoverydifficulttolockdownforthelowerlevelguyswhomaynotplayafull
season.Ibelievetherearelimitsontheminimumamountofgamesrequiredtobeeligible.Therearealotofguyson
therosterthatcan'taffordtobesatout.
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[] Richard_Nixon_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckthat.They'repaidtoplayachild'sgame.Iftheygethurttheyshouldbeoutofajob.It'stheirownfaultforwasting
allthemoneytheyearnedinthefirstplace.
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That'skindawhererulesandregulationcomesin.Icanbeaswillingascanbeworkingovertimeanddoinglotsofhard
work,butifmybossletsmedoithe'llbeinquiteabitoflegaltrouble,nomatterhowmuchItrytosayotherwise.
Basicallysortoutyourfuckingworkerrights,America.
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Insurance.Sitdownandgetpaidanyway.
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[] ManBearHam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Unfortunately,withtheprobabilityofinjuryhigherinfootballthanmostotherprofessionalsports,guaranteedcontracts
willmostlikelynevercometofruition.
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Thiswouldbefeasibleiftheownershipgroupdidn'tcallalltheshots.Youliftthesalarycapandmakethemcompete.
Theywon'tleteachother'sfranchisesfold.Itworksinbaseball.Itworksinbasketball.
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That'spartofthegambleofplayingsports,thechanceofinjuryandlossofcontractduetoperformanceorinjury.
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Yep.AverageNFLplayerisn'tmakingshit.Nowherenearenoughtosupportthemselvesoncetheyretireandspend
therestofsirliveswithmedicalissues.
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[] mjw237 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowbadareNFLplayers'contracts?AsanMMAfan,Ican'tpictureitbeingworsethantheUFC's.
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[] unleashedlive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtleasttheymakeahellofalotofmoneycomparedtotheCFL.Ourtopguymakeslessperyearthanthebaserookie
salaryintheNFL.Trueourplayersaren'tasbigbutthehitscanbejustashard.
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[] CodenameKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RelativelyspeakingtheygetverylittledependingonhowlongtheyhavebeenintheNFL.Minimumguaranteedisstilla
fewhundredthousanddollars.
IforgotwhotheplayerwasbuttheyraisedaverygoodpointbackwhentheNBAredidcontracts.TheNFLshouldgive
moreguaranteedtomoneytoeveryoneregardlessofstatus(hewantedaflat$1million)becausetheNFLmakesthe
mostmoneyoutofallprofessionalsportsandhasthemostriskfortheplayers.
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Iimaginethatit'stheplayerspreferringthehighriskhighrewardpayratherthanthelongterm.Moneymanagementis
nottheaverageNFLstar'sstrength.Ifsomeonesaidwe'llguaranteeyou5millionoverthreeyearsandachanceof
renewalifyouplaywellOR100,000peryearfortherestofyourlife...
IthinkI'dhaveahardtimechoosingthelatter
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Inthiscaseyou'dbedumbchoosingthelatter.
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[] starfirex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentiontheissueprobablyisn'ttheNFL.Theissueismorelikelytostartinhighschool,compoundincollege
games,andbythetimeaplayerisintheNFLthere'sagoodchancedamagehasalreadybeendone.
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[] kukukele undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PeopleoftenmakecommentsaboutwhyPlayerXwouldattempttohideaconcussionorrushbackfrominjury.
ThenatureoftheNFListhatit'sverymuch"nextmanup."Thegameissophysicalthatinjuriesareanexpected
occurrenceduringtheseasonandaplayercaneasilylosetheirjobiftheirbackupisproductive.Thinkofaguylike
DrewBledsoestarQBwhogotinjuredandincomesalittleknownkidwhowasdrafted#199TomBrady.
CoupleitwiththelaughablybadNFLcontracts(thinkaboutit,themostphysicalsportguaranteestheleastamountof
moneytoitsplayers)andyou'llunderstandwhyNFLplayersfighttobeonthefieldandhideinjuriesthatcould
potentiallybenchthem.ThelifespanofaNFLplayeris~34years,sothemajorityoftheseguyshaveaTINYwindowof
timetoearnenoughmoneytojustifythesacrificesthey'veundoubtedlymadetheirwholeslivestoreachthislevel.
Italsoshouldn'tbeignoredthattheseguysareknowinglyandwillinglysacrificingthequalityoftheirlattersyearsoflife
byplaying,sostayingonthefieldisparamount.
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[] DaneLimmish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TobefairtothePats,theinsideofDrewBledsoe'schestwasfuckedupbyMoLewisinthefirstgameof2000,
andhewasn'tabletoplayagainuntiltheAFCchampionshipthatyear.
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[] AisbeforeB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Completelyagree.NottomentionthattheaverageNFLplayer'scareerisbetween34years.Whatisevenmore
ridiculousandshamefulisthatRogerGoodell,theCommissioneroftheNFLmade$74millionoverthelasttwo
year...whilesomeexNFLplayerscanbarelygetoutofbedduetodepressionandothermentalproblems.
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[] onthefence928 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nonprofitonlymeanstheorganizationitselfdoesn'taccumulateprofits.Therearemanywaystodothis.Constant
reinvestmentintotheeffortsofthecompany,orpayingprofittowardsbonusestomanagementandemployeesare
thetwomostcommon.
Myoldbusinessprofessorusedtohopethebestwaytogetpersonallyrichistorunanonprofit,justpayyourself
thecompaniesprofits,andtheledgerisbalanced.
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[] shaggorama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andsittingoutbecauseofaninjuryisareallygoodwaytoloseyourjob.
TheNFLissortofamicrocosmforAmericansociety.
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[] discOHsteve undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreewithyouintermsofmajorsportsathletecontracts,butevenmediocreplayersaregettingpaidhundredsof
thousandsofdollarstoevensmallmillionstoplayfootballfor>tenyears?It'sabigriskphysicallybutfinanciallythey
arebeingsetupprettygood
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[] bryan_sensei undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheNFLPAalwaysgetsrailroadedwhenitcomestimetorenegotiatetheCBA.Lasttimetherewasalockoutthe
playersmadeatonofconcessionstotheownerssotheycouldstarttheseasonbecausesomanyplayersneededthe
paycheck.
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[] DrSwervington undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NFLneedstomakemoreofthemoneyguaranteed.Playersshouldn'tfearsayingthey'reinjured.
Neverthoughtofitthisway.Icomplainabouthowmuchbaseballplayersmakeguaranteed,butthey'reneverworried
aboutmissingtime(andmaybetakeadvantageofitabittoooften)butthismakesitwaymoreunderstandable.I'm
officiallyhopingeverysporthasmoreguaranteedmoney.
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[] fisherman66 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsoinhighschoolandthelowerlevelsthecoacheswouldalwaysbellow"areyouhurtorareyouinjured?!?!?"Huge
differenceintheeyesofthecoaches.Beinghurtmeantyoucancontinuetoplay.Beingininjuredmeantyouhadtosit
out.Furthermoreconcussionsaren'ta"visible"injurytoanyoneelsebesidesthevictim.I'veplayedwithconcussions
andI'vesatoutafewpracticesafterIgotmybellrungBAD,andthecoacheswouldscrutinizeyousayingthatyouare
infact,"milkingyourinjury"orbeinga"pussy".Nocoach.Ican'tsleepatnightinfearofdying,Isee27ofyou,Ihave
migraines,andIcan'tstandupwithoutfallingdownbecausemyheadfeelslikeit'smadeoutoflead.
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[] Pendulous_balls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Minewastheopposite.Coacheswereterrifiedofplayersgettingconcussions,butwhentheplayersgot
concussions,theywouldn'ttellanyonecuzadoctorhastoclearthemaftertheschoolmedicalstaffclearsthem
AFTERtheytakeaspecializedtesttheyhavetopass,andeveniftheypassallifthat,theystillhavetositoutfor
2weeks.Andina10gamehighschoolseason,that'sarealbigchunkoftime.
Theproblemwaswaybiggerwithunreportedinjuriesthanitwaswithcoachesforcingyoutoplay.
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Whatyearsdidyouplayhighschoolfootball?Igraduated2010andourconcussionprotocolwasNOTHING
likeyours
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[] Pendulous_balls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Graduatedhighschoolin2014.Theteststheydidwereimplementedin2013andthekidswereway
moreworriedaboutnotbeingallowedtoplaythanthecoaches.Thecoachesdidn'twanttogetsued
bytheparentsbutthekidsallwantedtoplay.TothepointwhereIwouldn'ttellmycoacheswhenI
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knewthatIhadaconcussion,orsimilarincidentswhereIknewthatsomeofmyteammateswere
concussed.
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Whenyouonlyplay10gameslikeyousaidit'sablowtomissoneortwogames.Isthe
concussionprotocolastateornationmandatedthing?
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Thisistotallytrue.Irememberknockingmyselfunconsciousonadummyandafterwakingupafewsecondslater
thecoachjustsaid"NOWTHAT'SHOWYOUHITITGOODJOBSONGOGETADRINK!"andfiveminuteslater
we'reontothenextdrillandI'mstillwonderingwhendidIactuallyhitthedummy.
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[] Lryder2k6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit.Afterreadingthiscommentandothersinthisthread,whenIhavekidsIamsureasfucknotlettingthem
playfootball.There'snowayinhellthatchancingthosekindsofinjuriesthatcouldaffectyouforlifeisworthit.
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[] old_dig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahinrugbywhenIwasyoungIgotkneestotheheadquiteabit.OneyearIwasknockedoutfor15minsand
thecoachsentmebackoncausewehadtoomanyplayerswith"real"injuries
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[] intellos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveafriendwhocan'tremembermostofhighschoolduetoplayingfootball.
Seriously,thoseyearsarejustgonefromhismemory
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[] Emm03 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salsoreallyfuckinghardtomakeyourselfsitoutwhenyou'retheonlypersonwhocanreallyknowhowinjured
youare(asopposedtobreakingaboneorsomething).Igota(fairlyminor)concussionplayingprettynon
competitivecollegeclubicehockeylastyearanditwassotemptingtogetupandkeepplayingandnottell
anyonethatIdidn'tknowwhatdayoftheweekitwas,andthat'swithasportthatIplayforfunacouplenightsa
week.
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[] Guyinapeacoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIhavetochoosebetweenmybrainbeingbruisedfrombouncinginmyskullandbeingapussy,I'llchoose
beingapussyeverytime.Mylifelonghealthisinfinitelymoreimportantthanafewyearsoffootball.Butwhen
playershavetheircoachstaringatthem,theirteammatessnickeringatthemsincethisistheirfourth"supposed
injury"thisseason,andtheyknowthey'lllosetheirscholarshipiftheysitoutofthegame...Icanunderstandhow
they'dwanttominimizetheirinjury.Andiftherewasahugeamountofstuffontheline,I'mnotsureI'dbeas
braveasIwasinthebeginningoftheparagraph.
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[] 925Copper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwaswellsaidandpoignant.Itspeakstowhattherealproblemis...theculture.
IusedtohavesimilarconcernswiththeU.S.women'sOlympicgymnasticteaminthe80s90s.Iwasateen
thenbutseeinghowtheyperformedwithinjurieshorrifiedme.Suchyoungbodiesbeinginjuredandforced
tokeepperformingwiththoseinjuriesjustseemedlikealifetimeofproblemsforafewpossiblemomentsof
glory.
Itriedtoreconcileittomyself,amdIstilltrywhenseesuchyoungathletesinjuredandcontinuingto
perform.Howmanyofthosehopesanddreamscomesfromtheathlete?Howmuchisittheathletenot
wantingtoletdowntheirparents,coaches,teammates?Scholarshipmoney,championships,medals...isit
worthit?
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[] FailedTech undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mybrothergotaconcussionwhileplayingsoccer.Forayearhewouldgetmigrainessobadhewouldstart
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vomiting.Hadtotakeayearofffromsoccerandhewasvery,verygood.GottotourEuropeonateamwhilestillin
highschool.
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[] gremark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoSportsteam!
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[] TitoTheMidget undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'tsleepatnightinfearofdying
Iknowitdoesn'tdoyoumuchgoodnow,butthewhole"don'tsleepifyouhaveaconcussion"thingisamyth.If
youcanwalkandtalk,you'retotallyfinetosleepwhileconcussed.
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[] deindiana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsoinhighschoolandthelowerlevelsthecoacheswouldalwaysbellow"areyouhurtorareyou
injured?!?!?"
Irememberthis9thgradefootballtookaweirdhitandfelltomykneesbecauseevenmylegsdidn'twork.
Showedthecoachmyswellingwristwhereitwashit."You'refine,shakeitoff".Playedforanotherweekwith
painfulstillswollenwristbeforemomdecidedIhadtogotothedoctorwheretheyfounditwasbrokenandhad
torebreakittosetit.Funtimes.
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[] Cash4Cakes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itoremyaclthefirstgameofmygrade11yearandtookaweekoffbeforefinishingtheseasonthewhole
timemycoachtellingmeitwasjustasprainandtonotgotothedoctorsinceitwasnobigdeal.
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Itoremyaclthefirstgameofmygrade11
Thoseareabitch.Iremembermybrotherhavingkneesurgeryafterawrestlingmatch.LookingbackI
wasreallyluckytoescapeAmericanfootball,rugbyandwrestlingwithnoseriousleginjuries.Justlots
ofconcussionsI'msurewentunnoticed.WonderifIcanusethatasanexcuseeachtimeIdo
somethingstupid.
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[] echnaba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nodoubtthecoachwasbeingajackass,butwhydidyourmomwaitaweektotakeyouin?
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Nodoubtthecoachwasbeingajackass,butwhydidyourmomwaitaweektotakeyouin?
Idon'tthinkIshowedherit'sbeenawhile.
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Ihad4(unreported)conscussionsin3yearsofhighschoolfootball.Startedplayingin5thgradeasalineman(full
contactofcourse),throughmyJunioryearofhighschool.Isufferfrommemoryproblemsand,asabonus,my
kneesareprettymuchshot.
Youreallydidn'tadmityouhadaninjuryunlessyoucouldn'twalkorthebonewasstickingout.HighSchool
footballishugeinmyareaand,sadlyenough,4050yearoldguysthatwerefootballstarsinhighschoolare
treatedlikeroyalty.
Iknowwhereyou'recomingfrom,anditsucks.
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[] datoxic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Texasforever.
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[] ForensicCashew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SouthwestOhioactually.NotashardcoreasTexasbutwetakeourhighschoolsportsseriously.
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IwasactuallyjustreferencingtheTVshowFridaynightlightsbecausewhatyoudescribedwas
prettydamnclosetoit.Butyeah,I'vegotabunchoffamilythatgrewupinOhiosoIknowwhat
youmean.Ihopeitallworksoutforyoufriend,noreasonhighschoolsportsshouldruina
person'sadultlife.
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[] Serinus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverunderstoodthis.Wouldn'tevenaslightlylessskilledplayerplaybetterthensomeonewhowashurt?
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[] Dennovin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Slightly,sure...butthere'softenamassivedropinskill.
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[] getbustered undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Diagnosedbyadoctor?
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[] crypticgeek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
4050yearoldguysthatwerefootballstarsinhighschoolaretreatedlikeroyalty.
Howsadforthemthattheypeakedinhighschoolthough.
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[] Reggin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thathastobeawful.Knowingallyouhaveinyourlifeisfouryearsofahighschoolsporttolookback
onasyourbestyears.Andtheywerenotevengoodenoughtoplayincollege.ThenIbetthey
constantlytellhighschoolersthattheyneedtoappreciateandenjoyhighschoolbecauseit'sthebest
timeofyourlife.Yepkidit'sallstraightdownhillforeveryone.Ithasnothingtodowiththefactthat
theyamountedtonothing,hadnoonethinkanythingaboutthemanymoreandprobablymarriedtheir
teenagegirlfriendcausethey'vebeentogetherforsolongit'stherightthing.
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[] Binklemania undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fridaynightlights.
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[] Oneeyedbill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverunderstoodthissortofsportsrelatedpassion.Like,Ienjoywatchingsportingeventsoccasionally.
Butithasabsolutelynobearingonmylifeoremotionalstatus...Peoplegetsoemotionallyinvestedinthis
anditjustseemssosilly.
Thatsaid,I'mnotouttheretellingpeopletostoplivingtheirlifehoweverthefucktheywantto.Butit'ssuch
aweirdthingtome...Whogivesashitwhowins?Goingtothegameisfun,butwhythefuckwouldyoulet
theoutcomeofthegameputyouinabad/goodmoodfortherestoftheday/weekendetc.I'venever
understooditandnobodyeverhasananswerotherthan"becausethat'sthewayIwanttofeelaboutit"
withouthavingananswertothefollowup"whydoyouwanttofeelthatway?"
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Youreallydidn'tadmityouhadaninjuryunlessyoucouldn'twalkorthebonewasstickingout.
Kidonmyhighschoolfreshmanteamhurthisleginagameonenight.Hisolderbrother,whowasan
assistantcoach,tookhimasideandjustkeptridinghimtotryand"walkitoff"andgetbackinthere.He
couldn't.Nextdayinschool,legincastduetoaBROKENFEMUR.
ThatwasthefirstandlastyearIplayedorganizedfootball.
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IbetyouwereawesomeandturneddownacareerintheNFLtomakethatdecision.
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[] 24_cool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayedsoccer,butthefootballcoacheswouldrunourworkoutclasses,basicallyaPEbutforathletesso
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weactuallyhadtodoshit,andtheywouldgetpissedifyoumissedmorethanonedayforanyreason,also
don'tevengetmestartedonhowmuchbullshittheirclasswas.Ibrokemyfoot,andtheywerefucking
pissed,andkeptaskingmewhenIwouldbeback,keepinmindthiswasduringtheseason,Ialways
workedouthard,alwaysdidwhattheyaskednocomplaining,butsincethiswasduringtheseasonI
definitelydidn'twanttomissanything,yettheykeptaskinglikeIwasfaking,Iwasjustlike,"whatthefuckdo
youthinkIactuallywanttomissmyseasonasshole?DoyouactuallythinkIlikeridingthebenchwhenI
shouldbestarting?"Eventually,IjusttoldthemtofuckoffandswitchedtoregularPE,sinceIwasaseniorI
didn'tactuallyhavetobeintheathletePE,yetsomehowIwasjustsomelazybum.
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Iwasarunningbackfor1yearofHS(sophomoreyear)andwhenIhadmyonlyconcussionIwas
told"youweren'tevenplayingwell"asthatsomehowdictateswhetherIgetaconcussionornot.
IremembernotpassingoutduringtheconcussionbutIweighedaround150atthetimeandkidI
smashedintowasaround160170sameheightasme.Irememberfeelingextremelysickanddizzy
fortwodaysbeforeIhadenoughandsawmydoc.HecheckedmyeyesetcandveryquicklytoldmeI
hadaconcussion.
ihadtwoteacherswhobroughtupthefactIdidn'tlooktoowellwhileinclassandactuallyadvisedme
toseeadocastheyknewIplayedfootballandlovedtohithard.
TheonlythingIregretwasnottakingcareofmyselfevenafterIwasdiagnosed.Ikeptdrinkingand
dabblingindrugseventhoughIhadabraininjury.sigh
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IguessIhadagreatcoachthen.Hewouldneverquestionanyplayer'sheartiftheywerehurt.The
wholeteamwouldprovidethepressure.Ineverthoughtmuchofituntilsomemilitarytrainingand
such.Everyoneisinvincibleoreveryoneisaperson.
Itwouldreallybesadthinkingtheseexamplesofcoachesknewthey'rekidswerehurtbutdidn'tgivea
fuckbecauseexpendable,4yearasset.Instead,Ihopeit'soutofignorancefromyoungkidsnever
complainingandanyrealdamageoccursmuchlaterinlife.Sotheysimplyarenotawareofthereal
effects.
SomethingsomethingVarsityBlues.MylifeismovieminusthecopcarandPercocets.
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[] phillies1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RemindsmeofwhenIhadmyfirstasthmaattackandthecoachgotpissedbecauseIwenttomyown
Dr.WellsorrycoachIwashavinganasthmaattackatnightandcouldn'twaittillthenextmorningto
seethetrainersinceyouknowIcouldbarelybreathe.ThentheytootriedtosayIwasmilkingthat
whenyeaIcouldbarelybreathe.
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[] michaelhe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sfunnybecausethesportwiththemostdanger(football)hastheweakestplayer'sUnionandsubsequentlythelowest
amountofguaranteedmoney
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[] detroit_dickdawes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionifyouplayincollegeand/orhighschool,yougetfuckall.IfyougetinjuredintheNCAA,theregoesyour
sholarshhopandhealthcare.
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That'snottrue.IfyouhaveacareerendinginjuryinNCAAsportsyoureceivewhat'scalledamedicalnon
encounter.Youstillgetmedicaltreatmentforathleticrelatedinjuryandscholarships,andtheteamgetsthat
scholarshipbacktogivetootherathletes.
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[] detroit_dickdawes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionifyouplayincollegeand/orhighschool,yougetfuckall.IfyougetinjuredintheNCAA,theregoesyour
sholarshhopandhealthcare.
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Moreguaranteedmoneymeansthecontractnumberscomedown.Someplayerswouldfightthat.
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You'reright.Someprobablywouldfightit.Butit'dresultingenerallybetteroutcomesforeveryoneinmyopinion.
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[] Jracx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leagueminimumis300k.I'dputupwithsomeminorbraindamagefor34yearsofthatkindofmoney
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[] swaqq_overflow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AverageNFLcareerisabout3years.Alifetimeofaftereffectsisn'tworth$600kaftertaxes.
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Manypeoplemakelessforalifetime'sworthofworkinfarmoredangerousconditions.
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Speakforyourself
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[] ExplainsSocialEnigma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Speaktothecourts:headtraumaisworthwaymorethanthat.
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Well,Ithinkit'sonlyworthmorethanthatifplayersarebeingliedto.(Whichtheyare.)Butifthe
leaguestartsbeingstraightupwithplayersthedesireforpeopletoplaywon'tdiminishmuch.
HellI'vesuffered3diagnosedconcussionsandprobablyseveralundiagnosedjustplayingrugby
atbarelyacompetitivelevel.YetIstillplay,andevenpaytoplay
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[] gordie44 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionthe5+yearspreNFLthattheseguysgothroughtoo.
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[] HomChkn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Moststartplayingwhentheyarearound12.Someasearlyas7.Withpads.Yearsofbangingheads
isfargreaterthenyoumaythink.
Youdon'tneedtostartplayingfullcontacttacklefootballtillyouareasophomoreorjuniorinhigh
school.Therestoftheskills(likefootwork,handwork,routerunning,howtoturnyourhips...)canbe
learnedin4v4and11v11flagfootball.
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[] Kevincore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknownothingaboutsports,eitherbutIjustheardsomethingtheotherdayonCNN,Iassumeitwas"new"news,that
FrankGiffordindeedsufferedsomesortofprettymajordamageofthebrain.
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Yep,likeitornot,thedudesgetpayedwhattheydobecausethesportisarelentlessmeatgrinderandyoubasically
havetoincentivizethelossofhealthwithseeminglyhugepercontractpaychecks.
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[] show_me_your_teets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadmultipleconcussions,(notproudtosay),frombarfights.Ithinkit'soneofthosethingswhereyouknow
whattherisksareandyouacceptthemoryoudosomethingIelse.Beingapunchingbagisn'tacareer,although
withthescholarshipsonofferwithsometeamsIcancompletelyunderstandwhypeoplesignup.IfeelIt'sarisk
vsrewardtypescenario
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[] sylaroI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tellittoallthesoccerplayerswhogetthesame/betterpaymentwithoutserioushealthrisks.
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[] HelpingOutPops undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthatweretrue,they'dallbewellpaid.ManyplayersmakelittlemorethanIdo.
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[] krj_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AreyousayingthatNFLplayersgetpaidmorethanotherathletesbecausetheirsportiswearingdowntheir
bodies?BecauseIfindthathardtobelieve.
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[] DrDecepticon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ittotallyhadnothingtodowiththeamountofmoneyinthegame
Goingtoadda/sbecausereddit
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[] krj_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thethingaboutaplacelikeredditis,thathalfoftheusersarecheekysarcasticcuntswhodont
realizesarcasmdon'tshowontextunlesswildlyexaggerated.Andtheotherhalfaredumbcunts,so
youneverreallyknowwhichoneyouaredealingwith.
Nowyoucanponderwetherornotthiscommentwassarcasticornot)
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[] axf7228 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhataboutMLB?
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[] yeahsureYnot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheygetpaidalotbecausetheNFLwouldn'tmakeinordinateamountsofmoneywithouttheplayers.
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[] TheNerdWithNoName undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*paid
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[] Kanzel_BA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Payispaid,butplayisplayed,butlayislaid,butstayisstayed,butinlayisinlaid,butswayisswayed,but
relayisrelaid,butsplayissplayed,butoutlayisoutlaid,butdefrayisdefrayed.
Let'snotcorrectpeopletoomuchabouttheirEnglish.
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*relayed
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[] AmyXBlue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthatmaybemoreofwhetheronehasrelayedinformationorifonehasrelaidanobject.
Botharevalidformsofthesamepronouncingofaword.
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[] GVas22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes.Therehasalwaysbeenteamdoctorsonthesideofthefieldbutthisyeartheymadeitarulewherethirdpartydoctors
areoneithersidelineassessingpossibleconcussions.
Ifaplayerisdiagnosedwithaconcussiontheyarenotallowedtoreenterthegamebuttherehasbeenmanycaseswherea
playerclearlylooksconcussedbutcontinuestoplay.
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[] Hxcfrog090 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Yeahunfortunatelyeventheofficialstheyhaveinplacetoaccessconcussionsmisssometimes.IntheRamsgamelast
weekKeenumwasclearlyconcussedyetnoone,thecoachesincluded,didnothingtoensurehewasn'tinjuredfurther.
Veryfrustrating.
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[] skadooshie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Manning(old)hashadalotofconcussionIfeellikewherenoonenoticed,notevenhim.He'dfinishupthegamealright
butwheninterviewedlookedblankandspokebizarrely,muchlikeDwightfromtheOfficewhenhegetshitbyacar.
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[] If_it_wasnt_4myhorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RememberforanyTeamDoctor(BeitCollegeorProfessional)........thewordTEAMcomesbeforeDOCTOR.
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[] WhyIsItReal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseit'slessimportantasanadjectivethatmodifiesthenounDoctor?
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[] zzimushka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MySOplayedDTforNebraskaincollege,theywouldbescoldediftheyweren'tmakinghelmetcontactoneveryplay.
Hewouldreceiveconcussionsprettymucheverygameandispayingforitnow.
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[] puppet_up undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.IjustheardaninterviewonNPRthismorningaboutthisveryissuethattheNFLneedstoaddressbetter.Theydo
havea3rdpartymedicalteamonthesidelinesanduphighaswell,however,theproblemisthatifatrainergetsouttoa
downedplayerfirstandassessesthattheyareokoutonthefield,thenthe3rdpartydoctorsgetwaivedoffandhaveno
say.Theonlytimetheygettodetermineifaplayeristooconcussedtocontinueplayingisiftheyhavetocomeoffthe
fieldtothesidelinewhich,asyouallknow,doesn'talwayshappen.
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[] megahurt5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydon'tanswertoteamdoctors,andhavethepowertopullplayersontheirown.
JusttheotherweektheymomentarilystoppedtheflowofthegametopullBlaineGabbert(49ersQB)fromthe
fieldtoevaluatehimafterahit.Hecontinuedplayingafterbeingevaluatedbythethirdpartydoctors,buttheydid
sidelinehimuntiltheywereabletocheck.
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Whataresomeofthethingstolookfor?
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[] GVas22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifaplayerlooksdazedorwobblyafterahittheycanbecalledoverforconcussiontesting.
Thedoctorwillasktheplayersomequestionsaboutwhathappenedinthepreviousplaysandiftheplayeris
unabletoanswerthequestionstheyareheldoutofthegame.
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[] skadooshie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dazedeyes,weirdrecationtimes/movements.
Ifyoucanseethehit,theFencingResponsetellsall:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlXjwAlOflA
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Wellwhentheplayertriestogetupandissowobblytheycan'tstandupunassisted,forstarters.
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[] papaotter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FuckingedelmanintheSuperbowl
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[] Mooptimus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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see:CaseKeenum(lastweek)
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[] stormstalker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'salsoa"concussionspotter"stationedinthepressboxabovethefieldwhoistaskedwithwatchingtheplayers
andnotinganysuspicioussignsthatmayindicateaconcussion.Theyhavethepowertohavetheplayerpulledand
testedbythethirdpartydoctors.
But,asyousaid,thissystemobviouslystilldoesn'twork100percentofthetime.It'sgettingbetter,butthere'sstillplenty
ofworktobedone.
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Thishappenedjusttheotherdaywiththeramsqb
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[] ClownQuestionBrosef undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FTFY:"Thisshouldhavehappenedjusttheotherdaywiththeramsqb."
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Yeah,that'swhatImeant.
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[] trousertitan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'rereferringtotheincidentwithcasekeenum,whereitshouldhavehappenedbutdidn't
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[] Jorgenstern8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HappenedtotheMichiganQBayearortwoago.
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Iamnotabigfootballfan,butthelittlebitIHAVEseen...Medicsain'tshitintheNFL.DuetoitbeingThanksgivingIsaw
morefootballthanIdotherestoftheyearcombined:Isaw2playerswithinjuriesthatshouldbebeenimmediate"you'renot
playing."
1)Gotknockedthefuckout.Likeontheground,notmoving,teammatesandtopickhimupandcarryhimoffthefield.Pretty
sureIsawhimcomebackinforthenextquarter.
2)Guygothitandwalkedhimselfoffthefieldwhileclutchinghisarm.Fromthelookonhisfaceandthewayhewasholdingit,
myimmediatethoughtwasabrokenbone.PrettysureIsawhisnumberonthefieldafewplayslater.
Thewholethingthoughisnoonewantstoadmitthere'saproblemwiththegame,oraproblemwiththemselves.Itsthe
standard"walkitoff!Don'tshowpain!"Mentality.Theydon'twanttobetheinjuriedplayer,theydon'twanttobetheguywho
can'ttakeahit.
AtleastwithboxingandMMAthere'snoillusionofsafety.Nobodycanlookatthosesportsandsay"That'sperfectlysafe,
there'snodanger."Ifsomeonejoins,theyknowwhattheyaregettinginto.Footballisdeemed"safe"thoughbecauseofall
thepadding,andpartiallybecauseofitbeingmarketedtokids.InboxingorMMA,ifyoutakeasolidhit,youknow.There's
blood,youLOOKlikeyougottheshitbeatoutofyou.ButwithFootballyoucanpassitofflikenobigdeal.
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[] GreatBabu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
2)guygothit...
Youmean#12?Funnybonehitbyhelmet.Thatshithurts.
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[] Galivis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfhisfirstpointistrueIcanunderstand,butthestupidbehindhis2ndpointmakesmelaugh.
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[] GreatBabu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisn't,Iwatchedallofthem.Therewasaknockout,heleft(viatrainersandteammates)anddidnotreturn.
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1)Gotknockedthefuckout.Likeontheground,notmoving,teammatesandtopickhimupandcarryhimoffthe
field.PrettysureIsawhimcomebackinforthenextquarter.
Istherenomedicalstaffwithastrecheroroneofthoselittlecartstocarryhimoffthefield?
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There'ssupposedtobe,buthegotcarriedoffbyateammate.Don'tknowifthemedicsdidn'tseeit,didn'tcare,
didn'tthinkitwasbadenough,orwhat
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[] lakotian 1691points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayhighschoolfootballandcanabsolutelyconfirmthat90%ofthegameonthelineisknockingyourheadagainstwhicheverpoor
bastardisacrossfromyour.
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[] llamadrama123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yup,playedHSfootballaswell,don'trememberalotofthegamesweplayed.Thescariest,thinkingback,wasthetimesImadea
playanddidn'tknow/realizeImadetheplayuntiltheannouncerscalledmynameoverthespeakers.
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[] retrend undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Quit
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[] lakotian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NahI'mnotintomuchdanger.I'mwithoneofthebestprogramsinthestate(Iknowthatsoundsreallycockybuttheschool
isverysportsoriented)andatthispoint,I'minittostayfit.I'llprobablybesecondlinenextyearsonoactualaggressive
hittinglikeinagame.
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[] retrend undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fairenough,Ishouldreallyhaveputaquestionmarkonmypost,peoplemaketheirownchoices.
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[] KeepRight0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
cantthegamebeadapted,likehowRugbyisplayed,withveryfewheadinjuries.
Woulditnotbeeasytoamendtherules,sothattacklesinvolveheadclashesless?
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see?hisbraindamageisalreadyshowing!
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Thenyouhaveeithershitcoaches,orshitmechanicsyourself.You'renotsupposedtochargeheadfirst.
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[] UNZxMoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Highschoolsportsaren'tguaranteedtohavethecorrectformandtechniquerequiredtobesafewhileplaying.
Youaren'twrongthough.Headtoheadcontactforeverysingleplay.
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[] frictiondick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIplayedlittleLeaguefootballweweren'ttaughthowtotacklecorrectlysowehitwithourhead.Plusourhelmetsdidn'tfitsoI
wonderhowmanyconcussionsIhadinmy17yrsofplayingthatsport.Incollegetheyreallycrackeddownontheconcussionsbut
inhighschoolyoucouldhaveoneandstillbeabletoplayifitwasn'tsevereandyouwereakeyplayer.IattributefootballtowhyI
havetroubleconcentratingandrememberingsimplethings.
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[] phaerodox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hadtwoconcussionsplayinghighschoolfootball.playedfullbackandmiddlelinebacker.myjobwastostraightdrillpeople.alotof
funthough
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[] Geebz23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayedonthelinefrom6thgradeto11thandIneverhadtodothis.Usingleverageandpushingtheirshoulderpadsintotheirneck
workedalmosteverytime.
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Idon'trememberwhatpositionIplayedinhighschoolfootball
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[] triforce_hal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'saterriblestrategy.Iplayedthelineonbothsidesthroughhighschoolandbefore.Itsaboutarmcontrol.Yougetthesame
stuneffectquickerandwithmorelongtermeffectivenessbyloadingyourlegs,poppingamofounderhischestguardswithyour
palmsanddrivingfromthighstothecorethroughyourshoulders.Ifsomeonepulledyoursillyuncontrollablyblindheadbuttshit
they'dgetaswimmovepastoranelbowonthesidetoshovethemstraighttothedirt.
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[] One__upper__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IplayedonthelineinbothhighschoolandcollegeandIhitmyheadthousandsoftimes.JustabouteverysingleplayIwouldgo
helmettohelmet.Ialsohaveboxedformanyyears.Iamveryworriedaboutthisissueandhavealreadyseenaspecialisttoget
checkedout.I'myoungandobviouslyneverplayedprofessionalfootballnorprofessionalboxing,buttheamountofhitsI'vetakento
theheadhasdefinitelygotmeworriedaboutwhatthefuturewillbring.
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[] exp7222 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatiswhyiplaymeleeandnotrealsports
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[] francisco1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'maBritishguywhohaswatchedabitofAmericanfootball.
Thatsportisliterallyallabouthowmuchyoucanhurteachother.
TwolinesofmassiveguysrunintoeachotherEVERYplay.
Nowonderpeoplegethurt.
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[] _WarShrike_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Played6maninHS,it'satrackmeetwithafootball.Butonethingforcertainisallofus"little"guyscangetuptospeedreallyquick
andIgotmybellrungquiteafewtimes.EvenhadmigrainesagoodbitmyJuniorandSenioryear.
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[] freeze123901 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahthewayIwouldblockIwouldputmyheaddownandalmostspeartheguy..Notgoodforneck
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[] coleb105 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverhadaproblemwithlaunchingfromthelinegoinghelmettohelmetwithsomeone,I'dstunmyself,stunthem.Win/Winatthe
time.SuckedthinkingbackonitNothethingthatbotheredmethemostwaswhenIplayedonoffenseandhadtopullandearhole
somepoorcorner.Ineverlikeddoingthat.Gaveakidaconcussion...wellmorethanthatandtheytookhimoutinaircare.Istopped
playingafterthat.
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[] Walker45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthenthere'sthedumbkidswholeadwiththeirheadonpurpose
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Yeahyoudon'treallyleadwithyourheadonpurpose,it'sjusthowyoustartoutofthestance,yourheadisliterallyleaning
rightforwardandyoudon'thaveenoughtimetochangedirection.Eitherthatorhowit'sacontestonwhocangetlowerthan
theotherguy.
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[] _PEAKE_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm,playCenterandmygoalisjusttoslamintopeopleallday.
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[] 6thFairway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilearnedalotofreallyvaluablelifelessonsfrommyyearsofveryseriousfootball.ButIsometimescan'trememberthemvery
clearly.
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Somethingaboutavoidingconcussions,butIcan'trememberit...
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Sucherrorsareundoubtedlytheresultofrepeatedlyknockingyourheadagainstwhicheverpoorbastardisacrossfromyou.
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[] fortknox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamacollegerefandthinkyouneedtouseyourhandsandreachmorethanyourmelon.
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[] KarateKeaton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samehere.IplaycenterandIamnotthatbig.ButIamfast.Thebestwaytosealanosetackleisalwaystogetofftheballfaster
andsmackhimwiththefrontofyourhead.Afterhe'sstunnedyoutakehimwhereyouwanthimtogoandgiveyourrunningbacka
massivelane.
ButI'llbedamnedifIdon'thavetotakeacoupleadvilbeforeandaftereverygame
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[] Btk258 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thateditwasneededbecauseofyourbraindamage,right?
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[] GetAJobRichDudes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Putahatonhim"
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[] Move_Weight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PrettysuretheirwasastudyshowingforNFLlinemanthattheysufferthesamedamagetotheheadas30MPHcarcrashvictims
orsomething
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[] ohno_Sushiprace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Currentlyplayingcollegefootballyougottatakecareofyourselfoutthereman.I'vehadthreefriendsquitornotbemedically
clearedtoplayinthelast2yearsfromconcussions.Enjoythehelloutofthegame,butyou'llneedthatbrainfortherestofyourlife.
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[] Mariske undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionhockey
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[] ahmeddemha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hockeyandfootballaren'tevenclose.Nobodyleadswiththeirheadinhockey,foronething.Also,contactusuallyoccurs
facetofaceinfootball,andplayersaremorelikelytobeclosertoparallelwiththeground.
Iplayedmuchhigherlevelhockeythanfootball,butfootballwastheonlysportthatIeveractuallyfeltunsafeplaying.
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Thedamageisalreadyshowing:/
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I'dpreferifyouhadn'talreadymadethisjoke.
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[] jf_ftw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lol,thenyournotagoodlineman...Atall.
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[] AfroKing23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Highschoolrunningback,canconfirm.Defenderslikehittingyourhead.Withtheirhead.Thatshithurtsyo.Getupfromhits
wonderingwhythehellimstillplaying.
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[] basedfam32 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asalinebacker,wheneverIplayIalwaysgofortheformtackleinsteadofthebighits.You'rewelcome,lol.
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[] notgreat1236 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IplayHighschoolfootball,I'madefensivetackleandthisisverytrue.Formeit'susuallyslammingmyhelmetintotheirkneecapbut
sometimestheyusetheirhelmetasaweaponandslamtheirhelmetintomine.
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Iplayeddefensivetackleandoffensivetackleinhighschool,too.Whatareyougoingforwiththehitfromhelmettoknee?Isit
oneofthosesystemswhereyou'resupposedtoholduptheOLtofreeupthelinebackers?Otherwise,you'rejustdoingthe
OL'sjobforthem.IplayeddirtyontheOline.Whensomeonedidthattome,I'dkickmylegsbackanddropanelbowonto
theirlowerback.Usuallytheystoppedafterone.I'dbedamnedifI'dlethimtearmyACL.
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[] notgreat1236 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,wearetaughtnottogrubbuttoplaylow.UsuallytheOLwillmovesosometimesourhelmetwillendupintheir
kneewhenwewantourshoulderpadontheirknee.Itjusthappens.Butyeah,theOlinewillcatchonwhenwedothat
kindaofplayontheDL.OurDlineisnotbigatall.Weusespeedtocontainourgapsandshootthruthemsometimes.
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Headtoheadcontactisinevitablewhileplayingatsomepoint,I'mjustgladasadefensivelinemanIwasabletousemyhands
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[] basedfam32 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MymainreasonforwhyIplayedlinebackerinsteadofrunningback.Icouldhavebeenanamazingrunningback,butIdecided
topickdefenceinstead,andusemyhands.Whybethepersontakingthehits,whenyoucanbetheonedeliveringthem?
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OhItotallyunderstandandagree,I'dsomuchbesafedefensiveplayerthananoffensiveplayertakingallthehits.Not
againstplayingonoffensebutIalwaysfeltsaferonthedefensivesideoftheballandI'mgladyouformtackleIwish
moreplayerswouldformtackleinsteadofgoingforthebighits.Mycoachesalwaystoldmeifyoupracticetechnique
andformtacklingbighitswillcometoyou,don'tbeselfishandtrytokillakid.
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You...Don'thavetotelleveryonewhenyouedityourcomment.
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It'ssothatoneguydoesn'tlooklikeanidiotaskingmeabout"your".Allaboutthecontext.
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you'resupposedtothough,it'spolite.everyonecanseethatyoueditedit,andit'sthepolitethingtodotosaywhatyouedited,
otherwisepeoplemayhavenoideawhatyou'reseeingascomparedtopeoplewhoviewedthecommentbeforeyou.
everyonedoesit....
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[] oxencotten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyonedoesnotdoit.Mostpeopledon'tputedit:unlesstheyarefixingmultiplethingsoractuallychangingwhatthe
wordssay.Thereisnoreasontoputitforchangingyourtoyou're.
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Butthiswayyouknowtherewasnochangeastowhatthewordssay
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[] oxencotten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouthough?Icouldputedit:You'reandstillchangeeverythingjustaseasilyasIcouldjustnotmention
editingit.
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yeahbutit'sjustpolite.it'seveninthelittlereddiquettepage,ifyoueverbotheredtoreadit.
Stateyourreasonforanyeditingofposts.Editedsubmissionsare>markedbyanasterisk(*)at
theendofthetimestampafterthree>minutes.Forexample:asimple"Edit:spelling"willhelp
explain.>Thisavoidsconfusionwhenapostiseditedafteraconversation>breaksofffromit.If
youhaveanotherthingtoaddtoyouroriginal>comment,say"Edit:AndIalsothink..."or
somethingalongthose>lines.
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[] Overly_attached_cat 2points
Yourwhat?!YOURWHAT?!
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[] Beat9 1057points
Iwasaguardinhighschoolandmydeliberatestrategywhengoingagainstsomebodybiggerandstrongerthanmewastofireoffas
fastasIpossiblycouldandslammyhelmetintohissoIcouldstunhim.
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Yup.PlayedDlineinhighschool,coachspecificallytaughtmetorammyfacemasktotheguy'schineverytime.
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[] lrg1ne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damnhowaboutsometechnique?Youprollywouldhavehadmoresuccess.Getyouhandsupfirstandgrab(andyeshold)
thechestpad.Staylowerthantheotherplayersandyoushouldhaveprettymuchfullcontrolofhim.Nowit'suptoyour
footworkandhipstomovethatbastard3feettotherightandopenahole.
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[] Vulpix_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sexactlywhatyou'renotsupposedtodoforalotofreasons.
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[] AboutTenPandas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasworse.Kickoffteam.Jobwastobethe"wedgebuster"basicallyhurtledmybodyasfastaspossibledownthefieldtillI
ranfullspeedintoabiggroupoftheotherteam.Wassomuchfun,butyeahIendedupwithafewinjuriesovertheyears.Still
wouldn'tchangeathingifIcouldgobackthough.
WorstconcussionIhadwaswhenIwasplayingdefense,wrappedaguyup,andateammateofminecameinforasecond
hit.Thehitknockedoffmyhelmet.Thatwasn'ttheproblemthough,thesecondteammatethatcameinandslammedintomy
nonhelmetedheadwas.Iwasoutforacoupleweeksafterthatone
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Lolthat'snothowyouplayonthelineatall.
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That'sinterestingbecausethereareextremelypopularhighschoolschemesthatarepredicatedontiny,athleticOLplayers,
andthestrategythereistostayasfarawayfromdefenderhelmetsaspossibleattackingkneesandthighsoneveryplay.
It'saninterestingschemebecausemanyhighschoolshaveenrollmentorotherissuesthatlimitthesizesoftheirplayers,so
theyhavetomakeitworkwithlittleguys.Evenatthecollegelevel,NavyandAirForcehavetendedtoruntheseoffenses,as
theirstudentstendnottobeaslargeastheircompetition.AndIpromise,atthiscollegelevelthestrategyfortheseguysis
nevertogoheadtoheadwithopponentswhoarelargerthanthem.
Inmyopinionhighschoolfootballcanreallyeasilybetotallysafeforteenagers.Theissueisthattherealityisthatforevery
responsiblecoachwhoknowshisshit,coacheshisteamwellandcaresfortheirwellbeing,youhavesomeidiotswhoare
goingtothrowtheirallstarsbackinthegameshortlyafterconcussionsandteachtheirplayerstousetheirheadsasweapons
evenwhenit'salosingstrategy.
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[] Beat9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotsure,Iwastaughtthataimingforsomebody'slegswassupernotok,butaimingfortheirhelmetwas.Asfor
highschoolfootballbeingtotallysafeforteenagers...itcanbe.Itstillmakesmeworrythough.AtleastwhenIwrestled
therewereweightclasses.Thereisanabsolutelycolossalvarianceinsizeandstrengthamongchildrenof'varsity'age.
InmytimeIhadtoblockkidsthatwere5'8"and150lbsandIjustshovedthemover,andIhadtoblockkidsthatwere
6'3"and270+andIhadnooptionexcepttojackthemhelmettohelmetandpraythatIcouldkeepdrivingthemwhile
theywerestunned.
Asforidiotcoaches,asIsaidinanotherpostIalwaysquestionedthewisdomoftheonewhocalledafuckingrunplay
throughmyzonewhenIwas5'10"andwouldhavetoclearaholeagainstsomebody6'+andcloseto300pounds.
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[] whytehorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayedguardatasmallprivatehighschoolasa5'10175lb.kid.Iwasreallyundersizedforthepositionandtypically
outsized.Canconfirm,mystrategywastoeitherhitthemsohardwithmyhelmetthattheywouldstopfiringoffquickly.Or,
whenthatfailed,Ilearnedtocutblockthemeffectively.BasicallytodoitrighteverytimeIneededtoslammyshoulderinto
theinsideoftheirthighonthelegthatwasfarthestawayfromtheball.Todothisplacedmyheadinabadsituationand
sometimesendedbygettingkneedinthehead.Eitherway,aprettynastyhittothehead.It'sawonderInevergota
concussion
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Whendidyouplay?MaybeIplayedatasortofinbetweentime,becauseIwastaughtthatcutblockingandgoingfor
theirlegswastotallynotok,butslammingmyhelmetintotheirswastotallygood.
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[] whytehorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
8yearsago.Ididn'tcutblockhowIwastaught.Ididwhatworkedanditwasn'texactlylookedonwithadmiration.
Itjustwasn'tcriticizedbecauseitworkedlikeacharm.Iwaswaytoosmalltoplayguardcomparedtomy
competition,butIwasslow.SoIhadtofindawaytomakeitwork.
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Weird,generallythestrategywastogolowinthatcircumstance,atleastinHSfootball.
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[] Professorgatsby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yessir,linebackersweretaughttoearholethehelloutofanyonebiggerthanyoubackwhenIwasinschool.Iwillsaythat,at
leastinTexas,theyhaveissuedagreatdealofreformspertainingtostudentathletes.Forexample,fullphysicalscreenings
arerequiredtoplay,wealwayshadacertifieddoctoronthesidelinesandconcussionsweretreatedalotmoreseverely.I
knowmanyplayerswhocouldn'tnolongerplayafter1asopposedtothe3concussionrulethatwasusedpreviously
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[] Steven054 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asadefensiveend,fuckyou.
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IfIjackedyouinthehelmetI'msorry.Ionlydiditcauseyouwerebiggerandstrongerthanme.AtleastwhenIwrestled
theyhadweightclassess...
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[] Steven054 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIwaslinedupacrossabigstupidolinemen,Iwoulddothesame.Shockandthenrollofftoeithersideand
lookforwhoeverhastheball.
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[] Ser_John_Cena undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswasmystrategy.
Sometimesyou'dbealittlebitoffsidesbuttherefsdon'tcatchitlol.
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That'saterriblestrategy.Iplayedthelineonbothsidesthroughhighschoolandbefore.Itsaboutarmcontrol.Yougetthe
samestuneffectquickerandwithmorelongtermeffectivenessbyloadingyourlegs,poppingamofounderhischestguards
withyourpalmsanddrivingfromthighstothecorethroughyourshoulders.Ifsomeonepulledyoursillyuncontrollablyblind
headbuttshitthey'dgetaswimmovepastoranelbowonthesidetoshovethemstraighttothedirt.
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[] CaptainKnightwing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyouwereprobablynotverygoodthen?BecauseasaDLinemanifyourhandsaren'tonmeimmediatelyyourassis
alreadyontheground.
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[] spamjam09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mydadwasbornin'44andplayedcenterformanyyearsandalwayssaidtheywerecoachedfromayoungagetosnapwith
1hand,slamtheforearmbtwnthe1baronthemaskandthetopofthehelmet(basicallythebridgeofthenose)thenfollow
upbyrammingthetopoftheirhelmetintothenoseguardschin.Amazingtheyhaveanyrealteethleft.
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Iplayedmuchlaterthanthat,wehadmouthguardsatleast.Thatatleastwasaverysimpleandeasytoimplementand
enforcemeasureofsafety.
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[] mikebritton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Me,too.Iwouldtrytoslamhiminthefacemaskwithmyforehead.Workedreallywellontheslowoffensiveguards.
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[] ZebraCommander7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Throughaseriesofunfortunateevents,Iplayedtackleinhighschool.NotabigdealuntilyourealizeIwas5'10"andaround
140lbs.Iactuallyendedupdoingreallywell,usuallyusingspeedandagilitytogetaroundmyopponentevenhurdledover
onebypressingofftheirshoulderpadsatthejump,lol.
IdidhavetoaskoneofourhugeguystotradespotswithmeatimeortwoforthemountainsoffleshIcouldn'tbestthough.I
sufferedmyshareoffreighttrainsIcouldn'tstopthough.
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[] kennyloggins_login undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mydeliberatestrategywhenIwasaguardandgoinginhighschoolagainstsomebodybiggerandstrongerthanmewaswhen
Iwasaguardandgoinginhighschoolagainstsomebodybiggerandstrongerthanmewastoslammyhelmetintohisandfire
offasfastasIpossiblycouldandslammyhelmetintohissoIcouldstunhim.
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[] brighterside undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hey!You'retheguythatchickenmcgnuggetsthewizards!
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[] JayMeaux88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canabsolutelyrelate.Asasmallerlinemanitwastheonlyway.It'sevenhowtheytaughtmetodoitinaboutthe8thgrade....
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Butthat'sjustadumbwaytodoit...Somucheasierwhenyoujustgetyourhandsundertheirpads.Ihadafriendwhowasa
centerwhodidthatallthetimeandnowhe'smentallyretarded.It'ssad,really.
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[] redbull209 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AymanIfeelya.Forme,beinga5'5guardisn'teasyhere'smyfootballhelmetfromthisseason
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[] RC_COW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhereiwasjusttryingtosmashmypalmsintotheirsolarplexusandpushingthebottomsoftheirpadsupintotheirface.I
neverchoppedblockedthough.Takingoutsomepoorbastardskneeidontneedthatonmyconscious.
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Don'tforgetaforearmpadsoyoucangiveemthesidewaysuppercutundertheirfacemaskandforcetheirheadback.
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[] RC_COW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididthatbutmyschoolcouldntaffordtheforearmpadsandisureashellcouldntmyarmsaftereverygamewere
sofucked.
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[] myfirstnameisstefan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IplayedguardonoffensiveandIneverhitanyonewithmyhead.Ialsoplayeddefensetackleandyeaneverleadwithmy
headeither.Ifyouleadwithyourheadyouwouldbeoffbalanceandtheguyacrossfromyoucouldgetbyyoufaster.
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Right?TheseguysseemliketheyhaveallthestategyofaneuropeanarmyinvadingRussiainWinter:getbeatandeat
mudonyourwaybacktothehuddle.
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asfastasIpossiblycouldandslammyhelmetintohissoIcouldstunhim.
I'mnotadoctor,butthatdoesn'tseemlikeahealthythingtodo.
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Weallassumedthehelmetwouldprotectus,andsolongasyoudon'tloseconsciousnessandgetafullblown
concussionthentherewasn'tanythingwrong.Ifyouaren'tcrosseyedandtalkinfunny,thenabumpontheheadisno
worsethanabumponthearm.
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[] StrungOutOnMath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weallassumedthehelmetwouldprotectus
Theconcernisbreakingyourdumbneck.
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Noit'snotyoudumbperson.Yourneckisincrediblystrongwhenitcomestocompression,especiallyifyou
aretensedandreadyfortheimpact.Almostallneckfracturesinfootballcomefromfreakaccidentslike
somebody'shelmetgoingintothegroundandcatchingwhiletheirbodyisdrivenupandoverthehead,or
fallinginanawkwardwayandgettinghitinthebackorsideoftheneckbyaknee.Theshoulder/chestpads
andhelmetfaceguardaredesignedinsuchawaytopreventbreakinganeckfromfrontalcollisions.The
mainrisktoyourneckinaforwardimpactwouldbedownwardtorsionwhichisdesignedtobealmost
impossibleduetothepads.
Therearealotofdangerswithfootball,abrokenneckisquiteliterallynearthebottomofthelist.
Specificallybecauseitissoobviousandsoeasytoprotectagainst.Youdumbfuck.
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It'satthebottomofthelistbecausesofewpeoplearedumbenoughtodothatmove.Whenthe
unfortunatehalfwitdoes,injurieshappensooftenthattheycallit"Speartackler'sspine".
http://www.sw.org/HealthLibrary?page=Spear%20Tackler%27s%20Spine%20with%20Rehab
SportsMed
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearing_(gridiron_football)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMklSv_VlxE
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Okfine.Youarestilladickforbeingthefirstonetofuckinginsultme.Mycoachestaughtmeall
sortsofstupidshitandthiswasn'ttheworstofit.
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Themainrisktoyourneckinaforwardimpactwouldbedownwardtorsion
Downwardtorsion?Yousureyouknowwhatthatwordmeans?Ordidyoujustwanttosoundsmart?
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YeaIknowwhatthatmeans.
Torsionisthetwistingofanobjectduetoanappliedtorque
Torqueisthetendencyofaforcetorotateanobjectaboutanaxis
Torsionisthetwist,torqueistheforcemakingittwist.DoYOUnotgetthis?Youretarded
fuckingasshole.Theobjecttwistingisyourneck.Theaxisisthepointatwhichaplayer'sface
maskgripstheturf.Thetorqueistheforwardmomentoftheplayer,twistingone'sbodyaround
theaxispoint.
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Nowimscaredforfootballnextyearman.Mightnotbethestrongestbythatpointbutillprobablybeoneofthebiggerones
0.o
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[] lionlocks79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IplayedcenterandIwasnormallybiggerthentheguyacrossfrommeat6'3"300pounds.Ican'ttellyouhowmanyofthose
fuckerswentforthehead,soIjustpreparedforitandwentfortheirs.Shitsnotthatgreat.
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Asthecenterpeopleshouldn'thavebeengoingforyourheadintentionally.Yourmainjobisbeinganunbreakablewall,
andifsomebodyistryingtogetpastyouthenslammingtheirhelmetintoyoursisn'tgoingtofurtherthatbyverymuch.
Eveniftheystunnedyouforlongenoughtoslipby,theballisgoingtobeelsewherebythetimetheyswitchdirection.I
playedoffenseandIsavedtheintentionalsuperhardhelmettohelmetforwhenIhadtodrivesomebodylikeyourself
backandopenaholefortherunningbacks.Iwas5'10"and200ishpounds.Ialwaysquestionedthewisdomofwhoever
calledarungoingthroughmyspotwhenIwasacrossfromsomebodyyoursize.ItwastheexactsituationwhereIfeltI
hadnootheroption.Helmetshittinghelmetswasnormalontheline,ithappenedalmosteveryplaywhentwoguysin
armorslamintoeachother,butwhenImadetheabovepostImeantIwasafuckingmissileandmyforeheadwasmy
primaryweapon.
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[] lionlocks79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhokIseewhatyoumeantnow,Ineverreallyhadtogolikeamissilemuch,ifitwerearuntoeithersideofme
isusuallyhavetheguardhelpingme.Thatwasverylittlethough,mostofthetimeitwassnaptheballthendon't
move.WealsothrewtheballalotbutIseehowaguyofyoursizewouldhavetousethehelmetincertain
situations.
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[] samuel33334 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyou'refuckingstupidthen.Nowonderconcussionsareproblemwhenpeopledon'tplaycorrectly.
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Whensomebody'sgot6inchesand50poundsofmuscleonme,andIdon'tneedtojuststopthembutMOVEthemand
makeaholefortherunningback...It'sjustnothappeningiftheyareevenhalfwaycompetent.UnlessIcanringtheir
bell.Needjusthalfasecondofthemseeingstarsandnotfullyresistingme.Asfornotplayingcorrectly,helmetto
helmetcontactwasnotonlycondonedbutencouragedinsomesituationsuntilfairlyrecently.
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[] nbpanthers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactlythis.Irememberthecoachteachingmetodothis.Hurtsofuckingbadafterdoingit30+timesagame.
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[] xSidious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlayedstrongsideDefensiveend,anddefensivetackle.Iusedthissametactic,myhelmetwasbrandnewatthebeginningof
theseason.After,itlookedlikeithad3fullseasonsofplayontheline.
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Weusedtotakeprideinthebattlescarsonourhelmets.Bonuspointsifitnotonlygoesthroughthepaint,butgouges
theplastic.
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[] xSidious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly,Iusedtobragaboutthatshitallthetime.Iearnedthatscarredhelmetfromchallengingpullingguards,
andgenerallyjustflyingaroundthefield.
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[] YouShallKnow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayedcenterandleadwithmyheadeveryplay.
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[] Boricua_Torres undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayedtacklefootballinasmalltownfortenyears,wouldn'tbesurprisedifwehaveheadtraumainthefuture.Onekidwould
"train"hisheadtotakehitsbetterbyslamminghishelmetintohisheadinthelockerroom.I,onetime,playedawholequarter
withoutrememberingit...Cametoinahuddlelaterinthegamewonderingwhereallthetimewent....That'slike15minutesof
activeblackout,Itouchedtheballinplayeven...Nomemory
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[] l2edford undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welltheseareallrealwholesomestories.
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Prettycrazytoreadthese.Whatkindofcrazyleaguesdidtheseguysplayin?I'mnotintheUSbutgrewup
playingfootball.Learningnottoleadwithyourheadwasprettyregularoccurrence.
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Whatkindofcrazyleaguesdidtheseguysplayin?I'mnotintheUSbutgrewupplayingfootball.
Americanfootballisverydifferentfromwhat'sknownasfootballelsewhere.
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Okay?TheUSisn'ttheonlyplacethatplaysfootball.Yes,Imeanfootball,notsoccer.
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[] michaelferland undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeah,I'minCanada.Ijustthinkthatwearealsomuchmoresensibleabouttheseridiculous
helmettohelmettackles,evenatthehighestlevels(CFL,CIS).Headtraumaseemstobe
muchlessofanissuebecauseofthis.
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[] Yeezs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yup,wasalsoaGuard.Mystrategywastogetaslowaspossibleandrammyshoulder/headintothedefenderasquicklyas
possible.Donotremembermuchofmytimeontheconcussionsbecauseofthefield.
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[] PresidentJonStewart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PlayedlineinHighSchool.AndHockeyandLacrosse.Mymemoryingeneralisabsoluteshitingeneral.Don'tknowI'd
it'sbecauseI'manalcoholicandapotheadorfromalltherepeatedblowstothehead.
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[] ElPotatoDiablo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasontheothersideasanosetackleforthe52.IwastoldmyjobwasliterallytoknockasmuchoftheOlineoutas
possibletomakeholesfortheLBs.Thisprettymuchinvolvedtryingtorammyhelmetandshoulderpadsintotheir
kneecaps.
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Juniorseau?
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[] psych0naught undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikeitmakessensebothways,butIjusthaveaninterpretationquestion.Doyoumeantosaythatyoudonot
remembermuchofyourtimeonthefieldasaresultofreceivingsomanyconcussions?
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[] enigmaticmathematic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whoosh
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[] Wtfisthatkid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DidIhearanairplaneorsomething?Soundedlikesomethingwentrightovermyhead.
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[] awp235 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
_ Iseewhatyoudidthere.
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[] downvote_me_moreYOLO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikethisisprobablyyoubackinthedayplayingontheconcussions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=YMgTC37zorI
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Ididwhatyouseethere.
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Thiswholecommentmakesmesad
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Yougotdainbramage
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[] beachchairphysicist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Underappreciatedcommentrighthere.Clever.
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[] f0restry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sliterallythebestcommentI'vereadallweek.Shockedathowfewupvotes,Reddit'sgenerallyalloverthe
subtleclevershitlikethis.
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[] dungdigger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahthisonejusthasmerolling.Damngoodstuff.
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[] eatMyTurdz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notreally...suchjokesareprettycommon.Theintendedtypoismeh.
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[] thatsaqualifier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tcutyourselfonthatangstyteenageattitudefuelededge,eatMyTurdz
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[] eatMyTurdz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ugotmetherebuddy.
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Itrytojabtheminthethroat
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[] Nolanrocks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwasmyplan.ThenIwassoconcussedafewweeksagoIdecidednotto.Gotmyasskickedandtoremyaclinthe4th
quarter.Definitelyheadbashingisthebestway
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Youdidn'twanttotellanybody?Ordidyoufeellikeyoucouldn't?
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Justthefootballmentality.Senioryear.IkeptplayingcauseI'llmissthegamelikecrazy.Idon'twantitgone
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[] TomorrowsHeadline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'ssomethingthatIthinkonlyexfootballplayersunderstand.Thefootballmentalityisahugepartofthe
discussionthatnevergetsbroughtup.Iwouldgettold"youshouldstopplaying,youcanreallygethurt!"
Likeyeah,andIdidgethurt,butyouplaythroughitforyourteam.Ialwaysthoughtitwassimilartothe
army.Peoplegobackforrepeatedtoursfortheirbrothersinarms.Yougooutthereandyougive110%not
justforyou,butforyourteam.Playtothepeakofyourabilitybywhatevermeanspossibleandnevershow
weakness.
Shit,IquitfootballafterIgotrolleduponwhileplayingguardanddecidedIwasdonehurtingmyself.The
effectsofthatmomentwerethesecondtimeIdidpermanentdamagetomybodyforthesport(outsideof
concussions).Ihaveabadkneeandabadbackandalwayswill.Sothatwasitforme.Butthat'swhatit
tooktogetmeoutofthesportandISTILLwantedtoreturn.IstillhavemomentswhereIregretnotgoing
back.
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Icompletelyfeelthat.ManIcriedlikeagirlwhenIretiredmyjersey.Hadthenumber66for10years,
andIwillneverwearthatJerseyagain,orbeontheteamthatIputsomuchonthelinefor,andthey
allputitrightbackupthereforme.
Itreallyisagreatsport,butyeah,injuriesarecommonandyoujustkeepgoingsoyourteamcan
keepgoing.
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Howoddisourculturewhenonedestructivebehavioriscelebratedandreminisced,andotherswe
lockpeopleincavesfor?
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Dude,stopplayingfootball.LOL
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Thanksgivingwasthelastgame.I'mnowonbedrestforaweek,surgeryinDecemberandaniceheadache
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Iwishyouaspeedyandtotalrecovery,mybrother.
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[] jackn81 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'maveryundersizedguardrightnow...Canconfirm,Idothisalot.
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[] the_spacecowboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iplayednoseguardinhighschool.Iwas5'10"and185lbs.Apparentlyourcoachesdecidedspeedwasmoreimportantthan
sizeatthatposition,soIwasconstantlygoingupagainstguystwicemysize.Ihadonestrategy:crazy.Iwoulddrooloutof
mymouthpiece,talktomyselfandgetangryatthethingsIsaidtomyself,sometimestwitcheverynowandthenandwhenthe
ballwassnappedIwouldjustaimforkneesanddriveheadfirst.
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[] TomorrowsHeadline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theideaofa5'10"noseguardiskillingme.Iwanttomeetthiscoach.Igotrepsasa6'1",305noseguardbeforeIlosta
fewpoundsandfoundoutIwasbetteratC/RG.Iwould'velovedtomatchupwithsomeonelikeyou.Ifeellikehalfofthe
snapsI'dgetbeatbyspeedandtheotherhalfyou'dgettossedacrossthefield.Soundslikeareallyfunmatchup,really.
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5'10noseguardswereprettycommoninIllinois.Ournoseguardwaslike5'8.
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[] the_spacecowboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettymuchsumsupmyhighschoolcareer.
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That'sprettyaverageforHSsize.There'safewkidsat6'2"butnotalotover200lbs
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[] ferhal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybeit'saregionalthing?BythetimewewereonVarsityourwholeteaminHSwasatleast175withmostof
ourskillplayersaroundthe200215range.Ourlinemenwereallover250.Wehadacoupleofguysover300.We
hadrequiredoffseasonweightlifting,somaybethatexplainsthedifference,buteveryteamweplayedwaspretty
similar,sounlessit'saregionalthingIthinkthatfootballplayersjustweighmorethanyourealize.
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300lbsnahIthinkpeopleweighlessthanyourealize.
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[] He770zz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
steroidsbaby
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[] pedantic_dullard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myhighschoolstartinglineaveraged235lbs.Iwas225,thelightestguywas165,andTheLocomotivewas6'2"
andweighedinalittleover300.Locoalsoranthe40inunder6seconds.
IamprettycertainIgotaconcussionnumeroustimes.Iwasprettymuchsecondstrongeverythingoffensive
guardandtackle,defensivenose,tackle,linebacker,andkickoffreturnfrontfive.Twentyfive+yearslaterIstill
havememoryissues.
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Iwas6'2"inhighschooland320lbs,andplayednosetackle,almostallmyopponentswouldslamtheirhelmetsin
first.
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dependsonyourareaandhowserioustheHSisabouttheteam.
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Idkman,atmostofthebigschoolinTexaswholeoffensiveanddefensivelinesare6ft+andpushing275lbs
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[] Dutch51 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notatall.IgotoaprettysmallhighschoolandeverystartinglinemanIsawthisyearwas200+lbsatleast.
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Dependsontheareaandjustwho'satyourHS.Iwasthetallestlinemanonmyteamat6'1.Buttwoyears
latertheyhadlike3guystallerthanme.
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Ifhe'sreallybigyouhityourhelmetonhisshinthefirstcoupleofplaystoslowhimdown
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[] Cambodio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getthat17%bashwhileatittoo
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Nahman,theypatchedthatfor6.85hisbashisdifferentnow,likePA'scrit
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71%
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Osfrogpls
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Breaktheirspritsandtheirbacks.
Spacecowcomingthroughmoomoo
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It'sokaverageof17%
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MOO,BITCH
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THIS.IS.DOTAAAAAA.
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Unsureiftalkingaboutthatbullshitbashlordorthatbullshitmaceroguetalent.
ByfarmyfavoritegameofdotowaswhenGabesmileduponmeandIgotchainbashesoverandoverandbeganto
questionifIhadhacksinstalled,Imadetwopeopleragequit.
Neverhappenedagain,thenagainIcouldneverplayagameeveragainandI'dbefinewiththat.
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dota2referencesonthefrontpage...wpsircommended
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Icefrogwhyyyy
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/r/dota2isleakingagain
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[] Lys_Vesuvius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Getthat100%bashwhileatittoo
FTFY
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ledotareference
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SpacecowFootball
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mooooo
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[] Tutush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
17%chancenottobash.
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foundtheSBplayer.Fuckyouguys.
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[] Vitztlampaehecatl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EquippingtheSplendidScreeninsteadoftheChargin'Targegivesyoua70%shieldbashbuffandtheabilitytodeal
impactdamageatanyrangehoweveryougainlessresistancetofire.
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[] velumer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Loltf2isshitwhywouldyouplayitanymore.
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[] Gigadweeb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tbhMvMisstillreallyfunandcompiscomingsoonsothedickheadmemesterswhosandvichpartymight
beweededoutofthegame
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[] velumer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TF2issofarimbalancedI'dbesurprisedifcompisn'taheapingpileofshit.
That'swhatI'mexpecting,consideringvalvehasjustbeentreatingTF2asnothingbutasidebitch
cashcowforyearsnow,andthrowingbullshitweaponsinthemix.
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SomeonesaltyabouttheInvasionupdate?
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Backtor/dota2withyou
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Spacecow!
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OSfroglebalanced17%OSfrog
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*170%
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Volvopls
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Spacecowplaysfootballsoundscool
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[] Geo1245 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisis17%luck,17%skill,17%concentratedpowerofwill17%pleasure17%pain,Anda17%reasontouninstallthe
game
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[] fremblem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butnot17%basicmath
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I'm17%concussionite,baby.
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thunkthunk
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[] thermal_shock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Remindsoftalkingshitinl4d,tellingtheopposingteamto"justuninstallthegame".Usuallysomeclannubsvsmy
friendswhojustplayedforenjoyment
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FortMinor!Man,MikeShinodawasmyidolinmiddleschool.
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Damn.NeverhasaFortMinorrefbeensowellexecuted.~slowclapofapproval~
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100%reasontorememberthename!
Redditisaficklemistress.
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Gottagiveit119%!
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What'stheother8%
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Momsspaghetti
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Iunderstandthisreference
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Youtried.
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"Norespecsinthisgame?Motherfuckerwhatisthis,1995?"
LaoTzu
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102%
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Iwasdoingthemathtoolol
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Suddenlyitallmakessense
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WhatittakestobeaCHAMPION!!!
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Ischampthere?
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Who'sthat?
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Nobodycares,partypooper.
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Formetheproportionslookedkindoflike3%luck,40%skill...
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7LamborghinisintheHollywoodHills.
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5WarrenBuffetts,50mengoingtocollege
AndahundredpercentreasontoremembertheKNAWLEDGE
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[] bjams undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That's102%.
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ggcommended.
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Eyyyspacecow
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Bashlord
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r/dota2isleaking...
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WellifyoulevelledBashtorank2itwouldbe25%,youpleb.
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[] DangerAwar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noitwouldn't.SpiritBreaker'sbash,whichiswhathe'sreferringto,isalways17%.
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[] Musadir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lastpatchmadethebashpseudorandom,soithasa17%chanceonaverage.Itwascompletelyrandom
beforethough.
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[] Benny0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithada17%chanceonaveragebeforetoo...
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[] Musadir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,ifyouwanttomakeanaveragefrom1value,itdidhaveanaveragechanceof17%before
aswell.
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[] lakotian 6points
Tackle,wehaveiteasier.AllIgottadotostoprushingendisstickoutmyhandstogettheguytoslowdownthenyouhithim.
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Ineverreallyheadbashed.Mystrategywasalwaystofakethemoutandfinessemyselfaroundthem,butIcan
definitelyrememberhighimpactmomentsofheadringinganddizziness,whichnowconcernsme
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Ineverreallyheadbashed.Mystrategywasalwaystofakethemoutandfinessemyselfaroundthem,butIcan
definitelyrememberhighimpactmomentsofheadringinganddizziness,whichnowscaresme.
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[] hktouk 10points
Wouldlesspaddingandleatherhelmetsmakeitsafer(andprobablyslower),liketheysaywithbareknuckleboxing?
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[] PWL73316 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmighthavefewerconcussions,Idon'tthinkanyoneknowsforsure,butyouwoulddefinitelyhavemorecrackedskulls
andbrainbleedskillingplayersonthefield,whichiswhattheyhadbeforehardhelmets.
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[] kyorsmuckers 4points
rugbyhasfewerconcussions.Therearenopadsorhelmetsotherthanpotentiallysoftscrumpadsandshoulderpadsthat
someplayerswear.
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[] Banderbill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rugbyprobablyisn'tbetteroff.They'verampedupdiagnosesprotocolsinrecentyearsbecauseoftheNFLandfound
outtheyhavebeenmassivelyunderreportingconcussionsandhaveinfactfounddegenerativebraindisease(CTE)in
formerplayersjustlikehasbeenfoundintheNFL.
Rugbyorganizationsareactuallybeginningtotoywithmandatinghelmets.
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[] headbuttpunch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noresearchtosupportthis,butspeakingfrommyownexperiences,IthinkwheretheNFLmaytrumprugbyin
headinjuriesiswhatwasmentionedabovetheconstantbarrageofsubconcussivehitsthatmanyplayerstake
manytimesduringmostgames.Inrugbyyoumightgetyourbellrungeverynowandagainonabighit,orbutting
headsinaruck,butit'sinfrequentandyouropponentdoesn'twanttohithisheadanymorethanyoudo.
Iplayedhighschoolfootball,andthencollegeandmen'sclubrugby.Irecently(earlierthisyear)gotachanceto
playinafullcontactcharityfootballgame,andIplayedonthelineatDE.ThefirstthingInoticedisthatclashing
helmetswiththeguytryingtoblockmewasunavoidableonthemajorityofplays.Ihadaheadacheafterthe
game,andthatwasplayingagainstabunchofuntrained,hasbeengradstudents.Ican'timaginehowbaditisat
theelitelevels.
Nowthatweknowsuchsmallerhitsoveralongfootballcareercanhavethesamedegenerativeeffectsasa
multitudeoffullblownconcussions,organizedfootballishavingarealproblemthatrugbydoesnotshare.Rugby
andfootballmightshareasimilarconcussionrate,butthebiggerproblemisthosesmallerimpacts.AndIdon't
knowhowfootballcanremovethemfromthegameandstillhavethesameproduct.Idon'tthinktheycan.
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Youdon'tmakecontactinrugbylikeyoudoinfootball,it'sdifferent.It'snotjustabouttacklinginfootball.
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Rugbyisn'tascloselymonitoredintheUSasfootball.Thereareprobablymoreundiagnosedconcussionsinrugbythan
football.
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That'sanentirelydifferentgame.
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Butrugbyandfootballaredifferentgames.Aninchorayardisabigdealinfootball,itdoesn'tmatterasmuchinrugby,
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[] Spongebobs_Asshole 2points
Whattheyreallyneedisweight/sizelimits.
The"nohelmets"rulewouldhelpIMO,butyoualsoneedtorestricthowhugethedudescanbe.Wehavesizelimitsin
boxing,whynotfootball?
Emphasisshouldbeonspeed/skill,notweighing300lbs.Itwouldbeabettergameifitwaslessfocusedonthekineticsof
hitting.
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I'veneverseensomeonemakethatkindofargumentbefore.Notaboutspeed/skill?Sincewhen?
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[] Blqnki 4points
Hellfuckingno.Whenyou'renotonthelineyou'realreadyheavilypenalizedforhittingheadtoheadsomostofthetimeit's
anaccidentifyourheadishitanditsusuallyunlikelythatyou'regoingtohaveanysortofissue,onlybecauseyou'rewearing
ahelmetthough....
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[] lakotian 12points
WhileI'mprobablynotthebestopiniononit,youcan'tmuchpreventconcussionsthroughthegearanymoreunlesstheycan
createstrongerheadpadswhichabsorbimpactwell.Ifeelchokedinmyhelmetsometimes(AlthoughIlovethatthing,areal
lifesaver).Theonlywayyoucanreduceconcussionsistodiscouragehittingdirectly.Theyaredoingthisthoughbyteaching
anewerformofblockingwhereyouuseyourhandstokeepthemout,butthisisonlyeffectiveonapassblock,youcan'tget
thesameresultsinarunplaybecauseyouneedthatmomentumtomovetheguy.
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I'dhavetodisagreewithyourlastpointaboutrunblocking,thoughnoneofyourothers.Ifyougetgoodandlow,place
yourhandscorrectlyanddriveupthroughyourcoretoyourshouldersandhands,youownyourdefender.Controlling
exactlywherethatmangoesisessentialtoarunblock,especiallyifyourassignmentisclosetotheaction.Ican'targue
withyouinthecaseofapullingguardorspecialteamsblockthough.Itisadangeroussport,andneedstobeimproved.
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I'dhavetodisagree.Ifyougetgoodandlow,placeyourhandscorrectlyanddriveupthroughyourcoretoyour
shouldersandhands,youownyourdefender.Controllingexactlywherethatmangoesisessentialtoarunblock,
especiallyifyourassignmentisclosetotheaction.Ican'targuewithyouinthecaseofapullingguardorspecialteams
blockthough.
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[] stokeitup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveoftenwonderedaboutamotorcycletypehelmet,onethatabsorbstheblowthroughfracturing.Theycan
obviouslyaffordtoreplacethehelmetsseveraltimes(ormore)agame.
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Ahighschoolthat'salreadycuttingextracurricularactivitiesisgoingtoreplacehelmetseverygame?Idon'tthink
that'spracticalforeverybody,butmaybeintheNFLorsomebigNCAAschools.
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[] stokeitup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yourright,perhapsyoungpeoplecanovercomemorereadily.Itseemedthediscussionwasonthepro
level.Also,thereareseveralbilliondollarsfloatingaroundtheNFL.Iftheywanttokeepthegravetrain
runningthentheyneedtobeforcedtopayup.
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[] thatothersir225 1point
Canconfirm.Weneverreallydidhithelmetsthisyearuntilourrivalgame,whichtheytriedtogiveusaconcussion.It
hurt,butluckilynevergotaconcussionandI'vedecidednottoplaynextyear.
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[] corpulentFornicator 731points
SomepeopleinNewOrleansthinkthegovernmentdynamitedtheleveestothe9thwardwouldfloodanddriveoutminorities.
Itsoundsreallystupidandtinfoily,untilyoulearnthatit'shappenedbefore
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[] LordSwampert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myaunt'sgoodfriendwasrecentlyinTheBigEasy,andtheuppercastewhitehighsocietyreferstohimas"TheNiggerPresident."
Disturbing.
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Sourcedoesn'tbackupassertion."Agroupofinfluentialbankersintownmettodiscusshowtoguaranteethesafetyofthecity,asthey
hadalreadylearnedofthemassivescaleoffloodingupriver.Afewweekslater,theyarrangedtosetoffabout30tonsofdynamiteon
theleveeatCaernarvon,Louisiana,releasing250,000ft/s(7,000m/s)ofwater.ThiswasintendedtopreventNewOrleansfrom
sufferingseriousdamage,anditresultedinfloodingmuchofthelessdenselypopulatedSt.BernardParishandallofPlaquemines
Parish'seastbank.Asitturnedout,thedestructionoftheCaernarvonleveewasunnecessaryseveralmajorleveebreakswell
upstreamofNewOrleans,includingonethedayafterthedemolitions,releasedmajoramountsoffloodwaters,reducingthewaterthat
reachedthecity.TheNewOrleansbusinessmendidnotcompensatethelossesofpeopleinthedownriverparishes."Seemslikethey
madethedecisiontotrytosavethegreatestnumberofhomes/lives,deliberatelyfloodingasmallernumberinanattempttosavea
greaternumberalthoughitdidproveunnecessarybecauseotherupriverdamsfailed(includingonethedayafterthedamsyou're
talkingaboutwereblown).Longdistancecommunication,especiallyduringstormslikethat,weren'tanywherenearasgoodastheyare
rightnow.
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[] c3pbro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahbutthatisahugeunsupportedleapoflogic.It'slikesaying"well,GermanyprobablywontinvadePolandtomorrow..unlessyou
considerthattheydidininthe30'santthereforeitsactuallyextremelylikelythatthey'regoingtoinvadePolandtomorrow.
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[] kimberkennedy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearecountlesssurvivorsfromthewardwhoheardloudexplosions.Idon'tthinkitwastodriveoutminorities,Ithinkitwasmore
"hey,wecanbursttheleveesandwipeoutthepoorestpopulationinthecityorwecanletthemburstontheirownandhopeitdoesn't
floodanythingwedon'twantdestroyed"
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[] jcaseys34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mmissingthepartwhereit'shappenedbefore.Unlessmyreadingcomprehensionisjustbadfromlackofsleepitsaystherewereno
leveesin1927,whichiswhythefloodwassodamaging.Theywerecommissionedinresponsetothedisaster.
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[] whoshereforthemoney undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlivedinNCbackwhentherewasthe7yearflood.Howitgoesistheeastpartofthestateisdueforagreatfloodonceevery7years.
wellmyyearhappenedtobebecauseahurricanedumpedwaterfromeasttowest.Theyhadtoreleasetheleviestopreventboththe
agriculturalcentersandcitycentersfromflooding.killedalotoflivestockandgovtofficialswerecrucified,butIstillthinktheymadethe
rightcall.
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[] 1337Gandalf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butminoritiestendtobetoopoortomoveout...
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Ifitdidhappenbefore,thatwasin1927.Whywouldthathappentoday?
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[] kurzweilfreak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isoldapianotoaguywhoclaimedhewasturnedaroundinhisboatbyarmedmilitarypersonnelwhentryinggettosafetyandhe
heardtheexplosionsthatdestroyedthelevees.AlsosaidhesawsomeothercrazystuffbutthiswasyearsagoandIonlyreally
rememberhimtalkingabouttheleveeexplosionsspecifically.
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Or...orthestategovernmentofLouisianablewtheircashonthingsthatweren'tleveesforyearsandyears.TheMayorofNewOrleans
didn'tdoamandatoryevacuationandlefthundredsofschoolbusessitting.
TheWikipediaarticleneverclaimsthat"it'shappenedbefore."
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[] legone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikethatwouldbackfire?IfyougotoNOLAwhereitflooded,youcanstillseealotofwaterdamageetc.Thepropertyvaluedidn't
increase.Ifanythingitdecreased.Ifsomeonewastryingtodriveoutlowincomeminorities,thatwouldn'tbethewaytodoit.
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[] UniverseBomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sproofthatthefundingforbetterleveeswasallocatedelsewhere,sothisisclosetowhatIknowasthetruth.
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[] mrkrabz1991 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyonewhobelievesthisisjustuneducated.AllthatdidwaspushtheminoritiestoothercitieslikeHouston.Plusthegovernment
spentbillionsonrescues,repairsandservices.Seemslikeahugewastetokillafewhundredminorities.
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DrivingouttheminoritiesinNOjustmeansthattheywilljustgosomewhereelse.Howisthatafix??
Alsothereareacoupleotherlargelyblackcities,likeDetroitandthatdoesn'thappenthere.Memphis,Savannah,Montgomery,
Birmingham,Baltimore,
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Wouldn'tsurpriseme...
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[] reddit4getit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snothinginthatwikilinkthatsuggeststhegovernmentdynamitedthelevees.
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[] FuckBigots5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwikiarticledoesn'tsayanythingaboutitotherthanabigfloodthatthearmycorpsofengineersaccidentallymadeworseforthe
followingdecades.
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[] StoleYourRoadSign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithappenedbeforein1927.That'slikecomparingmodernGermanytoNaziGermany.
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[] UrbanPugEsq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Interestingly,Iliveinthesuburbs.Wefloodedliterallybecausetheyjustchosenottoturnthepumpson...Theyevacuatedthepeople
whoweretherereadytoturnthemon,somyareagotafewfeetofwater.JFC,likethat'syourentirejobtoturnthepumpsonandyou
justevacuate?Comeon!
Andyeahyouright,theydidflooduprivernearSt.Bernardparishinthe20sorso.
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Sothehurricanewasmadeuptoo?
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HurricanesoccurregularlyinNO,theentirecityisbelowsealevel,theleveesexistforareason.Itwasonlyamatteroftime.
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Exactlymypoint
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[] C0lMustard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whygothroughthattroublewhenyoucanjustignoreinfrastructurespendinginpoorareasfordecades.SeriouslyIcanthinkoftwohit
songsaboutthelevee'sbreaking,itsnotlikenooneknew.Occam'srazordefinitelyappliestothisone.
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Ifthegovernmentwantedtosquishsomecockroachesormosquitos,itnotonlywouldbutwoulddosounapologeticallyinaspectacular
fashion.Asistradition.
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[] Sikes153 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfiancdoesresearchonKatrinaandshedoesnotbelievethatthistheoryistrue.However,shesaysshedoesn'tblameanyone
whodoesthinkit'srealbecausethewaythecityrespondedtothedisasterwasalmostasifitwasintentional.Asotherposterssaidthe
numberofpeoplewhobelievethisisindicativeofhowbadracerelationswere/arethere.
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N.O.leadershipatthehelm.....notthebestforthecity.And,bytheby,toreceivefederalemergencyprotections,arequestneedsto
bemade.Forunfathomablereasons,itwasnot.SothefederalgovernmentdidnotsetouttodestroyNewOrleans.
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[] keithel_berman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RandyNewmanwasn'tlying...
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[] Paskie123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tinfoily
Lovethat,bestdescriptionever.
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ItdoesshowthatmainlymyNordie'sweredisplacedfromtheirhomesbutIdon'tseeanywhereinthisarticlethatimpliesthattheflood
waseitherintentionalorallowedtohappen.Doesanyonehavemoreinformationonthis?
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It'ssaysagroupofinfluentialbankers,notthegovernment
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[] NeilAndJorie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
in1927.Icanthinkofsomeotherbadstuffthathappenedin1927,whichtheperpetratingcountrywouldnotdarerepeattoday.Itis
incrediblystupidandtinfoily.Drivingtheblacksoutofa60%blackcommunitywouldjustwrecktheireconomylikeitdidinthelinkyou
posted.
Also,unlessI'mmissingityourprovidedlinksaysnothingaboutaconspiracy,itjustsaysthatfloodwatersgottoohighandbroke
levees,leadingthegovernmenttobuildatonmoretostopitfromhappeningagain.
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[] Suibian_ni undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"OnApril15,1927,15inches(380mm)ofrainfellinNewOrleansin18hours.[5]Morethan4feet(1.2m)ofwatercoveredpartsof
thecity.Agroupofinfluentialbankersintownmettodiscusshowtoguaranteethesafetyofthecity,astheyhadalreadylearnedof
themassivescaleoffloodingupriver.Afewweekslater,theyarrangedtosetoffabout30tonsofdynamiteontheleveeat
Caernarvon,Louisiana,releasing250,000ft/s(7,000m/s)ofwater.ThiswasintendedtopreventNewOrleansfromsuffering
seriousdamage,anditresultedinfloodingmuchofthelessdenselypopulatedSt.BernardParishandallofPlaqueminesParish's
eastbank.Asitturnedout,thedestructionoftheCaernarvonleveewasunnecessaryseveralmajorleveebreakswellupstreamof
NewOrleans,includingonethedayafterthedemolitions,releasedmajoramountsoffloodwaters,reducingthewaterthatreached
thecity.TheNewOrleansbusinessmendidnotcompensatethelossesofpeopleinthedownriverparishes."
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[] crazyeddie123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahbutitwasmeanttosavethehomesofthepeoplewhomattered,nottodriveoutblacks.Infact,thewhitefolkswere
freakingoutthattheirlaborforcemightheadnorth,andwereblockingeffortstoevacuatethem.
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ThewillingnesstodeliberatelyfloodblackneighbourhoodsistheimportantpartoftheKatrinaconspiracy,andthat
elementismadeplausiblebythefactthatithappenedbefore.
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[] FILE_ID_DIZ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomepeopleinNewOrleansthinkthegovernmentdynamitedthelevees
boom...chick...boom...boomboomchick
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[] justcallcollect undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydidn'tusedynamiteduringKatrinathough,thatwouldbetooobvious.Therewasabargethatwentthroughthelevee.
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[] Gumbeaux247 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EventhoughALLbargeswereorderedclearedofthewaterwayDAYSbeforeKatrinahitorfaceseverepenalties.Everyoneseems
toconvenientlyforgetthatlittletidbit.
~stillbitterLouisianaresident~
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[] RewindYourTapes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsoexplainsthedelayed/poorresponse
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Yes,I'vespokentopeoplewhoheardtheexplosion.
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[] rlbond86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FYI,failingleveesmakealoudboomsoundtoo
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It'sliketheTrolleyProblem.Letthewaterfloodthehighclassneighborhood,ordivertittotheghettos?
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[] RedditZamak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptthehighclassneighborhoodswerelargelyabovegrade.
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[] OneX32 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhadanEnglishprofessorwholivedandstayedinNewOrleansduringKatrina.Hesaidthatwhentheleveebrokeinthe9thWard,
everyoneinthewardheardanexplosionlikenoiseandthoughtthewhitepeopleblewthemup.Thisjustexemplifieshowbadrace
relationswereinNewOrleans,andtobehonest,Idon'tthinkthingshavechangedsinceKatrina.
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[] psych0fish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithink'ThisAmericanlife'didagreatjobexplainingthis.
Http://thisamericanlife.org/radioarchives/episode/565/lower910
Whattheyheardwerethecanalwallscrackingunderpressure.Itwasfoundthattheywerenotuptocode.
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/u/psych0fishisgovernmentspyconfirmed.
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Well,ifpeopleinthe9thWardimmediatelysuspectedtheywerebeingblownupbywhitepeople,therewouldbeawaytogobefore
rapprochement,n'estcepas?
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[] OleGravyPacket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icouldseethis.The9thwardwasashitholefromwhatIrememberhearing.
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[] MugatusDog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhereinthatWikipagedoesitsaythat?Notdoubtingyoubutyoulinkedthefullpage,makesitveryhardtofindwhatyou're
referencing
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[] meeper88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sasectionin"AttemptsatRelief",aswellasapictureofoneoftheleveesbeingblown.TherewasalsoaPBSdocumentary
onthe1927floodseveralyearsback,wheretheymentionedtheleveesbeingblownandtheblacksnotbeingpermittedtoevacuate
beforeoraftertheflood.
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[] hippiekyle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,Idon'thavetimetoreadeveryword,butIskimmedprettythoroughlyandneverfoundthatclaim.
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"OnApril15,1927,15inches(380mm)ofrainfellinNewOrleansin18hours.[5]Morethan4feet(1.2m)ofwatercovered
partsofthecity.Agroupofinfluentialbankersintownmettodiscusshowtoguaranteethesafetyofthecity,astheyhad
alreadylearnedofthemassivescaleoffloodingupriver.Afewweekslater,theyarrangedtosetoffabout30tonsofdynamite
ontheleveeatCaernarvon,Louisiana,releasing250,000ft/s(7,000m/s)ofwater.ThiswasintendedtopreventNew
Orleansfromsufferingseriousdamage,anditresultedinfloodingmuchofthelessdenselypopulatedSt.BernardParishand
allofPlaqueminesParish'seastbank.Asitturnedout,thedestructionoftheCaernarvonleveewasunnecessaryseveral
majorleveebreakswellupstreamofNewOrleans,includingonethedayafterthedemolitions,releasedmajoramountsof
floodwaters,reducingthewaterthatreachedthecity.TheNewOrleansbusinessmendidnotcompensatethelossesof
peopleinthedownriverparishes."
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[] CSJones 335points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkitwasintentionallytodriveoutminorities,butIDOfinditplausiblethatthey'dintentionallyfloodthepoorareasoftownto
savethebetterones.
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TheydidthattoChalmetteonce.
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thebadpartsoftowntosavethebetterones.
Yes,floodingoutblackresidentsforthesakeofthewhitecommunity.If/Whentheyactuallystartedtheconspiracy,theyweren't
thinkingintermsoflowerincomeorhigherincome,theywerethinkingintermsofblackorwhite.
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[] KeystoneSoze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"...forthegreatergood..."
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[] Megatron_Griffin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegreatergood
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Nope.Theleveesandtheirbuildingweretheproductofgreatlocal/state/federalfracases,andaswithotherpublicworkscreatedin
suchcircumstances,theresultswerelessthanperfect.
Whatpeopledonotconsideristhat,notwithstandingthatNewOrleansisstormprone,themagnitudeofastormlikeKatrinawas
withoutknownprecedent.Noteveryriskcanbereducedtozero.Theleveesfailed.Peoplewouldliketospeculateotherwisefor
theirownpurposes.
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Myoldscoutmasterwasahydroengineerandhewouldtellusthatthoseleveeswereunbreakable.ThatisuntilKatrinahad
hersay
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[] Rachelle_B undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*lowerincomepartsoftowntosavethehigherincomeones.
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[] jeepdave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndIwouldn'tblamethem.
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Wait,you'dkillpoorpeopletosaverichrealestate?
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Everygovernmentwould.Gottakeeptheoneswhoactuallypayintothesystem.
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Yeah,no.
Thereisnoindividual,nomatterhowrich,who'sdeathmakesadentinamoderncapitaliststate.Theydie,
theircapitalisinherited,thewheelkeeps.turning.
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Yeah,ifyourcityisn'tgoingtohelpprotecttheassetsoftherichtheywillgotoacitythatwill.And
franklyifIhadtopersonallymakethechoicebetweenaniceareaandaghettoitisn'tevenachoice.
Washtheghettoout.
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Eitheryourparentsaremonsters,orthey'reashamedofyou.
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[] tkell15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohyou'rePCtoo?PCChinoHillsbro
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[] TNUGS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BRO!Weshouldgetahousetogether!
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Thebadpartsoftownwerebelowgrade.
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[] GarrioValere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsawthatinaDragonAgegame!
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[] usedOnlyInModeration undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydidthatinmyhometown(inupstateNY)severalyearsago.Thetownstillhasn'tfullyrecovered.
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[] CSJones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NeverplayedDragonAge.Elaborate?
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[spoilersfromInquisitionifanyonecares]There'ssomethingcalled"theblight"intheDragonAgegames.It'sanasty
corruptionthatkillspeopleandcreatesdemonscalleddrakspawn.Partofatownbecameoverrunwiththisblight.The
mayorfearedthattheblightwouldconsumetherestofthetown,soheroundedupthesickandfloodedthepartoftown
thatcontainedthesickpeople.Hethenmadeupastoryaboutthedarkspawnattackingthedamandfloodingthetown
sohewouldn'tbeblamedbythesurvivors.
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[] RapNVideoGames 11points
Iwouldfurthertheconspiracybysayingitwastolowerthecrimerate.NewOrleanshadoneofnationsworstmurderrateanddruguse
wasrampantintheprojects.TheleveeswereweakenedtofloodouttheghettostogetNewOrleansoutthespotlight.It'sconvincing
whenyouseethecitywasslowlygentrifyingyearsbefore.Whateasierwaytogainrealestatethanclearingouttheblock.
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Andafterdoingthat,youcanplanahurricanetofinishthejob.Becausetheweatheralwaysbendstoman'swhim.
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Whydoyouthinktheleveesexistinthefirstplace?NewOrleansseeshurricanesregularlyandtheentirecityisbuiltbelow
sealevel.Itwasonlyamatteroftime.
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[] JeffDaGenius 360points
Buttheydidn'tdriveoutminorities?NewOrleansisstill60%black.
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Theydon'thaveacrystalball,jeez.
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ItdroveabunchintoTexas..
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Itwasn'taplantodriveoutminorities.Theideawasdivertwatertothepoorestareaofthecity.Thisareahadlessbusiness,
landmarks,etc..Italsohappenedtobeprimarily"minorities"inthearea.Potentiallyasmartmoveifyouactuallyplannedforthe
falloutandcompensatedthevictims.
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andthe9thwardis98%black.Nobodycaresenoughaboutthe9thwardtoconspiracyit.
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ALOToflowerincomefamiliesmovedtoHoustonandareasaroundNewOrleans.Mytowngrewbynearly5000peopleinayears
time(we'reacouplehoursfromNO).
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[] calibos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'malwaysamusedbyhowpeoplecanholdridiculouslyconvolutedconspiracytheoriesthatobviouslydidn'twork.Secretive,
unnameableforcesconspiretocreateaRubeGoldbergcontraptionofaplanandmeticulouslyeraseallevidencetheyeveracted.
Andthentheplandoesn'tdowhattheywantedittodo.Apparentlytheonlythingevilcabalsaregoodatiskeepingsecrets.
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minoritieeeeeees...
Inmywaaaaterpaaark...
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[] c_more_glass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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67%beforeKatrina.Notahugechangebutstillachange.
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[] hirst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itusedtobe80%+andsinceKatrinathecityhaschangeddramaticallyinawayitotherwisecouldn'thave(charteringtheentire
schooldistrictandtearingdownthousandsofpublichousing).
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[] theweyland undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onceaplanfailsitwasnolongeraplan??
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[] thebearcredentials undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
True.Butitopensupmoreopportunityforgentrification.
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[] Obamaphone69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyhadanexcellentprogramaboutKatrinaon"thisAmericanlife"(Ithink)overthesummerthecenterofoneofthe
storieswasthiswhiteladywhomovedintoapreviouslyallblackneighborhoodandnowisheadoftheneighborhood
community/representstheareaforthecitycouncilorsomethinglikethat.Coincidentally,allofthepeopleinthatareaswore
theyheardexplosionswhentheleveesbroke.PersonallyIthinkit'sfarfetched,butstrangerthingshavehappened.
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[] StafneDefect undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthisishappening.Notasmuchintheeast,buteverywhereelseinthecity.Lakeview'shousesaregettingbigger,midcity
andthebywateraregetting"upcycled",andnewpeoplearemovinginaaveryrapidrate.
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[] thebearcredentials undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.AllmypeoplearefromtheLower9thandthe7thWardandalthoughalotofpeoplemovedbackandrebuiltit's
nothinglikeitwas,inalotofplacesit'sjustflatland,nothing.It'sonlyamatteroftimebeforepropertydevelopment
startstohappen,albeitgradually.
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[] StickyGoodness 464points
Wouldn'ttheotherracesbeaminoritythen?
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[] SusieCarmichael undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iliveabout15minutesoutsideofNewOrleans.It'sapredominantlywhitearea.Butatmycollege,Imightaswellbea
minoritybecausetherearesomanyblackpeoplethatcometomyschoolfromNewOrleansandthesurroundingareas.
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[] mtcbh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'skindofweird,butimwillingtobetthatwhenthedaycomesthatwhitepeopleareactuallytheminorityinAmerica,itlltake
usawhiletostopcallinghispanics/blacks"minorities"
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[] Asha108 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nobecausetheyaren'tblack.
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[] _masterofdisaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Minorityonanationalscale.
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Ohshit...Whenconspiracysbackfire.
Itwasdonetodriveoutthewhitefolk.
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Asawhiteperson...
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[] You_and_I_in_Unison undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,minoritynationally.Minoritymajoritydistrictsarewhattheycallthem.
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[] monkeysrule123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IcantbeaminorityKyle.Imwhite
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[] DNThrowAwayduke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whitepeoplearen'tminorities,theblackandbrownpeopleare!
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[] hippiekyle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotaminer.Doyouseeashovelinmyhands?
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Statistically,yes.Sociologically,no.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_group
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That'snotthewaywedothingsinAmerica
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[] LUCKERD0G undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookslikewhitepeoplearesoprivilegedthatwecan'tbeaminorityLOL
I'msotiredofallthisracialshiteverywhereweturn.
Everyracepersonreligionetchasbeendiscriminatedagainstatsomepoint.Iamsotiredofreadingeverylittlething
thatboilsdowntoracismthisoroppressionthat
Anotherthingwhileonthesubjectlatelycopshavebeenbeatingtheshitoutofeveryonenotjustblackpeoplesolet's
dropthattoo.
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[] callans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookslikethelowerninthwardcouldusesomefreedom!
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[] spunkychickpea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mtheonlywhiteguyhere?Lookatalloftheseminorities!
LouisCK
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[] Bigstar976 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TellthattotheIndians.
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Ithasnothingtodowith"America".Thewordhasasociologicaldefinitionthat'sdistinctfromitsstatisticaldefinition.
Sometimeswordshavedifferentmeaningsdependingonthecontext.
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ButthesocioeconomicdefinitionyoumentionisalsoanAmericanthing...
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[] orangesine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iappreciateyoureffortstobeobjectiveandfair,butithaseverythingtodowithAmerica.Blackpeoplearenot
calledminoritiesinNigeria.AsianpeoplearenotcalledminoritiesinAsia.
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[] Stijakovic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeputAmericainquotestoindicateameaningbeyondthesurfacedefinition.He'ssayingthatreferringto
nonwhitesasminoritieshasnothingtodowiththe"backwardsracisthickvilleMURICA"sentimentandis
justaconvenientblankettermthatevolvedbeyondaliteraldefinition.I'mnotsayinghe'srightorwrongI'm
justhereforthepedantry.
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I'vebeenwonderingthisalot.Aminorityisconsideredtobeasmallgroupofpeopleofacertaincolourina
country,right?Themajoritywouldbealargegroupofpeopleofacertaincolour.
InAmerica,whitepeoplearethemajority.Othersareconsideredminorities.
Ifawhiteguyweretogoto,letssayChina,wouldheandtheotherwhitefolksinChinabeconsidereda
minoritybecauseAsian'sarethemajorityinChina?
Isthathowthewholethingworks?
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What?Yes,ofcoursethat'showitworks.That'swhatminoritymeans.
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[] GeoffreyTempest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisyourfixationoncolour?Minoritiesarejustlessthanmajorities.Nocolorinvolved.
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Thenisitbasedonethnicity/nationalityratherthancolour?
I'mnotreallyfixatedwithcolour.It'sjustthatmyunderstandingofitwasthatitwasallabout
colour.That'swhatAmericaimpliedanyway.
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[] reven80 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisnothowitworks!Thisisnothowanyofthisworks!
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_group
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[] ButtSexington3rd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youjustprovedthepointyouwerearguingagainst"That'snotthewaywedothingsinAmerica."In
theUS,evenifacityis90%black,they'restillconsideredminorities.
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It'snotabout"America",forfuck'ssake.It'safuckingsociologicaltermthatreferstothepower
andstatusofagroupnotitsrelativesizeandit'susedthatwayalloverthefuckingworld.
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[] TNine227 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausetheyaren'tminoritiesthere.
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NeitherinNOLA.
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[] Thangka6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butwearein'Murica.
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MURICA
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[] SantaIsRealEh 2080points
There'snoFinland!!
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[] loordien_loordi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FuckSweden
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Nicetry,thatwon'tgetRussiaoffyourback!
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[] JEesSs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Confirmed.It'sjusteastSweden.
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[] SantaIsRealEh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Easytheretiger,WestRussiasayshi.
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[] CoverNL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlyeastsweden
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ManIgetsofuckingjackedupwhenpeopledothis.Ihavenologicalreasonforit.ThefirstgirlIeverfelltrulymadlydeeplyinlovewith
wasfromTurku.Motherfuckers.Finlandisreal.
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TurkuisinTurkey,mate.Youwereoneoftheinvoluntaryparticipantsinthatexperience.
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[] Paranoid__Android undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsaidEngland!
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[] Noble_Flatulence undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Correct.It'srecentlybeendiscoveredthat"Finland"isactuallyjustDuluth,Minnesota.
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[] Swordfish08 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,Finlandisthere.Belgiumistheonethatdoesn'texist.
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IknowloadsofguysfromBelgium.ImyselfhavebeentoBelgium.Myfriendsarelivingthere.ButFinland.Nothing.Zip.Nada.
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[] zombie_dbaseIV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sacountrywhereIquitewanttobe!
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DoyoureallywanttobeinthemiddleoftheoceanwhereJapanesefishermenkillwhales?Thinktwice.Makeasmartdecision.
QUICK.
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[] PonceLives undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Explain?
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ItsmadeupbyJapan,sothattheycankillwhaleswithoutanyinterference.
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[] HookDragger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alongthesamelines....ThereisnoactualstateintheUSAnamedWyoming.
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ItsNorthDakota,man.There'snostatecalledNorthDakota.Jeez!!
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[] wP_throwaway_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Someta.
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MoSeta!!
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[] lucozade33 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomebodybetterbreakthenewstoNorway.Theywererealclose.
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Shutyourwhoremouth!
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[] pockets817 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Context:Thisguy'sparentsareconvincedthatFinlandisjustEastSweden.
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[] TheDemon333 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneoftheredditalltimegreats
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[] count_olaf_lucafont undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveit.I'vemettonsofpeoplewhoclaimtobefromFinland,butInevermeettheminFinland.Makesmesuspicious.
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Buti'vebeenthere:(
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That'swhattheywantyoutobelieve.
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Nicediversion,CanadianSantaClause!
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WhatdoyouwantforChristmas,mychild?
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IwantanofficialRedRyder,carbineaction,twohundredshotrangemodelairrifle!
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Okay,Iwillgiveyouawaterpistol.Don'tforgettosayyourHailMarys.
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But.......youtraitorIWASGOOD
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Sorrymychild,Budgetcutshereinheaven.TakeitupwithJesus.
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[] jeckwelsh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ebin:DDDDDDD
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[] SandpaperScrew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThenwhatwasthatladyIsleptwithfrom?
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NorwayIguess!!
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[] pognut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butifthere'snoFinland,thenwheredidthisawesomefolkmetalI'mlisteningtocomefrom?
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Occam'sRazor.
Whatseasier,tofaketheexistenceofacountry?ortonot?
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No!NotaFinrin!
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[] MaddingtonBear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'srightnexttoBielefeld.
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[] G0AT_H0RNS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ClassicFinland.
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[] seeteethree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,certainlynotinScandinavia...
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[] StaleyAM undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IntheUnitedStates,somesaythere'snoWyoming.
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IthoughtitwasNorthDakota
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[] Libertyprime117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*Belgium.
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VincentKompanyisfromBelgium.Irefusetobelievethat.
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lies!!!
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ButbutIwasinBrusselsthreemonthsback!!
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YouwereinapodunderDisney!Don'tdenyit!
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[] QUOTESSPONGEBOB4GOLD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://youtu.be/R7BiKZbKffk
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[] fyrew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snowhat?
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Bielefeld.
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NorthDakota
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[] dadification undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeensayingthisforyears.LatestthingInoticed:FargoisfilmedinCalgary,sincethestatethatFargoissupposedtobe
indoesn'texist.
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Preach,brother.
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[] God_Megusta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoumeanEastSweden?
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Sorrycan'thearyoufromWestRussia.
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[] Hungry_Horace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mliterallymeanttobeflyingtheretomorrow.NowIhavethefear...
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Don'tworrybro.Youwillbewelltakencareof.
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[] Kishirno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
namechecksout
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[] Juffin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tbesilly,Finland.Youstillhavetoletthoserefugeesin.
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Okay.Okay.Jesus,guys.
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morelikeMuhammad.
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[] pianoblack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thinkaboutit.YouhearaboutFinlandallthetimebuthasanybodyeveractuallyeverBEENtoFinland?
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[] BrotherClear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veneverevenseenFinland!
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OrHelsinkiinparticular.
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[] Lolicon_des undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Really I'm just part of the conspiracy
IvisitHelsinkieveryotherweekend.
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Nightwisharefromthere.
CheckmateAfinnists!
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[] elBARONROJO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IMPALEDNAZARENEaarefromthere!
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[] sameth1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Perkele.
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[] inucune undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/wavesknifein/u/sameth1'sdirection/
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[] JeremyG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kikkeli?
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[] blurry_photo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Satanna.
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[] Pacnyc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Joo.
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Eh?
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It'safinishprofanity.ThereisnodirectEnglishtranslationanditisthoughttobethesingleworstswearwordintheworld.
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Canyouatleasttelluswhatitlooselymeans?Anyway,Ilovelearningswearwordsfromdifferentlanguages.Thank
you.
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[] Lieto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assameth1said,itwasoriginallythenameofapagangodofthunderortheforest,dependingonthesource.I
grewupknowingPerkeleasthegodofthunderandTapioasthebearshapedgodofforest,soIsubscribetothat
interpretation.
Thewikipediapagehasapronunciationandsometidbitsabouttheoriginandusage:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkele
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[] Lolicon_des undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtomakeitsoundpowerfulyouhavetospellthe'r'asweFinnsdo,it'saveryroughlettercomparedto
English.PerRRRkele.
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itsoundslikeahappycatsayingkeleh!
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ItwasthenameofapaganGod,thentheDevil.
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[] haabilo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtranslateslooselyto"goddamnit".
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[] nikto123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Perkele,Perkunas,Perun
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[] Neutral_man_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Finlandisactuallyexpensiveasfuck,darkmostoftheyearandgenerallynotthatgreat.Source:IliveandworkinFinland
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[] dxxxb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoundslikenorthernNorway.Areyousureyou'renotinFinnmark?
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[] Bandin03 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicetry,Japanesewhaler.
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[] probablymade_thatup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
But,asaresultoflivingthere,youareincontentiontobeaWRCchampion
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Yousureyou'renotinSweden?
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Youhavebeenbrainwashedtobelievethat.Sorry.
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[] SlightlySharp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sreallyfromBielefeld.
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IknowsomeonewhothinksthattheystudiedinBielefelduniversity.Joke'sonthem,bro.
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Hiscompliancewillberewarded.
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FoundtheSoviet.
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[] saxy_for_life undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EioleSuomea!
FTFY
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[] VaginalFungus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExactlywhataFinlandwouldsay.
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[] Jarmatus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tyoumeananEasternSwede?
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WeseethatMexicohasbuilt20newhospitalsand5newwaterparks,alsosomebodynukedFinland.
OOOHNONOTAFRINRAND!
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Itstrue.IswearI'mnotinFinlandrightnow.
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Santawheredidyougo?Norway?
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I'monanAfricantripwithPope,son.
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Atleastit'lltastegood.IhearPopeisagoodcook.
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[] No2VoteBrigand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
QuiteclearlyCanadian.
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[] PirateOldwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eyit'snicetomeetanotherEastSwedishWestRussian!
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[] johnnybones23 892points
NicetryFinland
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[] timidforrestcreature undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'lldrawtherefugeesamaptogettoFinland,justincasethereisanyconfusion
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[] alltoocliche undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThegreatesttrickFinlandeverpulled,wasconvincingtheworlditdidn'texist.
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Eh,butpropsforKeyserSze!!
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[] arudnoh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mulkvisti
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[] krambone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Koksitoista
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[] StreetSpirit607 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lopeta!Paljastatvielmeidt.
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[] arudnoh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aionpelatattpelien!Olenvsynyt.Niinvsynyt.
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[] clever_cleverson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
uskon,ettteolemassa.muutenolenkyttenGooglekntniinanteeksiminunvirheit.
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[] KafleCharck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Suomenkielionpuhdasjaviatonjakaltaisesikielenpahoinpitelijttulisiheittpillkkusntjenmukaisesti:
Armoaei,Siperiaan.
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[] flgflg10s undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mitvittua
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[] zaishanghai undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LivedinFinlandforayear.Despitebeingableto'read'everything,thisistheonlythingI
understood.Kiitospaljon,kaveri.
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[] Papagaio55 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,thereWASaFinland.Itcommittedsuicide.
http://youtu.be/YAasJBot9as
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[] NiobiumGoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyinventedSanta.ThereisFinland.
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[] God_Megusta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'tSantacomefromtheDutchSinterklaas?
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andtheinternetcherubssang,wasthatwisdomorbs.wikipediawillsetmestraight(plusadditionalreading).skeptical
butI'mwillingtoputinthework,thanksfortheinfo.
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[] NiobiumGoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probably.FinlandhasgreatChristmasthough.
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[] anotherpoweruser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'ssomeshadowcultcomprisedofpeoplewithalotofkarmawhoaretryingtopushtheiragendaontoredditors.
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Noideawhatyou'retalkingabout..
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[] electromage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyouhaveover10xasmuchasme,soclearlyyouareamember.
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Ohyeah,wein/r/centuryclubdoactuallyruntheworld....butyou'llneverknowforyourselfuntilyougetinandjointheevilfraternity.
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[] ThePwnageMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StorefrontusesReddittorecruit,that'safact.
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[] progrocker2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookatr/politics.Ifyouranswerisevenslightlynotleftenough,youWILLbebanned.
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[] thisoneoptimistic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stormfrontand/p/haveasubredditwheretheypostreadymaderacistbullshitcopypastatospreadwheneverthetopicfits.
Lookfor/u/tellsthetruthalways,healwayspoststhesameshit,allpulledfromthatsubreddit
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[] grizzburger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seeexample:/u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
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Notaconspiracy,it'smarketing101.
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/r/Politicseasily.Sameusursposteveryday,mostlyjustspammingarticlesuntiltheyhitonethatgetsbrigadedpast3000+upvotes.I
wouldn'tbesurprisedifmostofthetopaccountstherearebots.
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[] Soldier_Of_FORTRAN undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SocialMediaMarketing.It'salso100%normalthesedays,samethingfornewsarticlesbuiltaroundpushinganidea,product,etc.
Goodexample,thisarticleisapaidadvertisementforOrangeistheNewBlack.
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[] comprisebot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Composed"isthecorrectwordhere.
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[] Mac6ruber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tdoubtthisatall
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[] roflocalypselol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mpositivetheantifamovementandGeorgeSorosinvestsalotoftimeandeffortinReddit.
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[] TheRealMellyGibson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah!Fuck/u/ibleedorange!
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Itdoesn'tneedtobeacult.It'sjustgroupthink.RemembertheDentistthatkilledthelion?Peoplethateatcheeseburgerseveryday
wereflippingtheirshit.
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r/OldSchoolCooldeliberatelypromotespeopleofcolortothefrontpage(dressedin1920stuxedosorwhatever).Mind,I'venoproblem
withpeopleofcolor...butitisanoticeabletrend.
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[] DatNewbChemist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Subredditsaretryingtopushtheiragendadownontoothers.Itmaynotbebigorbad,butI'veseenseveral.Therewasapostthatwas
takendownfromoneofthenewssubreddits(/r/newsor/r/worldnewsdon'trememberwhich)becauseitcastBLMinabadlight.Isaw
/r/gamingtakedownapostthatwaswellputtogether,butgavepoormarkstotheBattlefrontgame.
Modsarehumanandwillbiasandpushjustlikeanyoneelse.
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Ithinkthatafteryouenterthe100kkarmaclub,offerscomeintohaveyoushill
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[] Alarid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihearifyoutalkaboutthem,yougetaddedto/r/CenturyClub...
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[] SrgtStadanko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelievetheirnameistheDemocraticParty.
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Idon'tevenhavethatmuchkarma.Leavemealone!
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[] misterguydude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheRussiangovernmentroutinelyusesReddittodriveproRussianpoliticalcampaigns.
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[] jimminy_jilickers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthereisacabalofracistRedditorswhotry(andsometimessucceed)atpushingracistmemestothetop.
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[] raffytraffy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichiswhyanycomicbookmovietrailershootstothefrontpagebeforeactualnews.
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[] carlotta4th undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihardlythinkit'sashadowcult.Justatonofbusinesseswhoknowhowpeopleontheinternetworkandusethosetendenciesto
promotetheirbrand/product/agenda...itwouldberathereasy,really.JimmyKimmeldemonstratestheideaverywellandhe'snot
nearlyassecretiveasacompany.
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[] rubberchicken69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kindaremindsmeofthe'fuckherrightinthepussy'hoax
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Ihavemadeacommentinathreadandendedup5.Anhourlatersomeoneelsemakeswordforword,theexactsamestatement,and
theyendup+500.
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[] want2playzombies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iactuallygotbannedfrom/R/worldnewsforrreplying"islamisnotarace"
Iwasreplyingtosomeonewhowascallingsomeoneracistbecausetheydidntagreewithislam...
womanareworthhalfasmuchasmaninislamandSJW'sdefendit!sharialawsaysmancansexwithchldren
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[] foxh8er undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Preposterous!
/u/cant_trust_hillarywouldtellusifthatwerethecase!
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[] flopus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ishillfordankmemes
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[] Nocommenthistorylol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverheardofstormfront?
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[] promonk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msurprisedGrammarNazis,thevanguardofthecabal,haven'tspankedyouforusing"comprisedof"yet.
TheConspiracymustbeslacking.
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[] MrHanckey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Companieslikethatdon'treallyhideintheshadows,theymightnotbecompletelyopenaboutwhattheydobuttheydefinitelyareout
thereintheopen.Beingintheshadowswouldbecounterproductive,itwouldattractmoreattentionthanbeingoutintheopen,just
imagineanunknownandsecretivecompanyreceivingpaymentsfrommajorcompanies,weightingondata,energyandemployees
whilebeingaphantom,itwouldattractalotofattention.
Thinkofthecompaniesthatadvertisethroughfitnessgirlsorcelebritiesoninstagram,theyarenothiddencompaniesbuttheydon't
wantyoutoknowthatthesepeopleareadvertisingeither,sincefortheirpurposesitisbettertosubtlydisplayaproducttopeople,they
acceptitbetterifitiscommonusagebytheinstagramuser,eveniftheyknowtheymightbeprofitingfromit.So,tokeepsome
obscurityabouttheirpurpose,thesecompaniesaresetasmodelingagencies,whichisreallypartofthedeal,beingtherest(off
contract)showingoff"gifts,travelsandservices"oninstagram.
Forastroturfingcompaniesisprettymuchthesamebutinsteadofadvertisingdresses,beautysalons,iPhonesandstuff,theyadvertise
contentandnewsthataparty,apoliticianorpoliticalgroupmightwanttohavemoreviews,ordotheopposite.Theysellsomenormal
marketingproduct(websites,consultingandetc)andpartofthecontractsisastroturfing.
OneknownexampleIhaveisacompanythatgainedalotofattentioninBrazilsinceitisbeinginvestigatedonacorruptionscandal
duetopoliticiansusingbribingtopaythiscompany.Sotherewasaninquiryonthiscompanyandeventuallysomeoftheirinternal
informationswerepublicized.Onpaper,theirserviceswereessentiallymakingwebsitesandadvertising,sameasanymarketing
agency,howevertheirpayrollsshowedthe"extrajob",whichtheycalledguerillamarketingonsocialmedia(astroturfing)andbuying
supportfromknownbloggers.
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Ontheirwebsite,PepperInterativa,youcankindoffeelwhattheirrealbusinessisbutitisnotpublicaboutit.
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Occam'sRazor.
Everyonetriestopushtheirownagenda.
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U/can't_trust_Hillary
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[] _ROTTEN_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,Me_irlisaSJWultraliberalsubdisguisedasabunchoffunnypictures.
Source:gotbannedforsaying"retard".
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[] CDC_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'dkeepyourmouthshutifyouknewwhatwasgoodforyou.
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[] fapfapaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
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[] CANT_TRUST_HILLARY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ohyeah,definitely:)
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[] Blenderhead36 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExactlywhatIwasthinking.
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[] Honky_Cat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,Iseeyou'vefrequented/r/politicsintherecentpast.
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[] ddshroom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iaminthecult.AMA.
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[] AdmiralShark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarethecultleader.
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Omg.
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[] Mrwhite69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mgettingareallyprobernievibe,itprobablyisjustwhatmostpeoplelikebutIwouldn'tbesurprisedifthere'ssomeintentionalpr
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[] oklabama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellweknowmodsofseveralmajorssubredditsdeletelinksandthenrepostthemforkarma(orjustdeleteshittheydon'tlike).People
getangryaboutiteveryonceinawhileandthenforgetandgobacktoupvotingthem.NottryingtogetpermbannedsoI'llleavenames
outofthis,butitdoesn'ttakemuchclickingaroundinafewdefaultsubstoseethat.
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[] ku7j3n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Takealookatthetopuploads.Onsomedayssomeonelike/r/Gallowboobshas5postsormoreatthefrontpage.Imean,oneperson
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canhavequiteanimpactonwhatyouseehere..
Andthenthereistheup/downvoteswhichcausecertainagenda'storisetothetop.Ihaveexperienceditat/r/gamingwithpaidmods,
butit'sevenworsewhenit'saboutreligionorhomosexuality.
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[] TheBiles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pagingsuperkarmawhoreshitposter/u/CANT_TRUST_HILARY.
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[] Meltingteeth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nah,thatdoesn'texist.Pleasemoveoneverybody.
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[] roboticbees undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notexactlyacult,butvariousgroupsuseredditasameanstofurthertheirdirtyagendas.It'suptothemodsofagivensubredditto
instituteandenforcerules(beyondexposingpersonalinformation),soalltheyneedtodoisfindasubredditthatallowsthem,they'll
spamwithwhateveritisthey'repromoting.Stormfronthasawholesetofguidelinesaboutusingreddittospreadracism,anditdoesn't
takemuchtoseeitinaction.There'sotherpoliticalagendasthatarefrequentlypushedonreddittoo,likezionism,butcorporationsalso
useitasameansofadvertising.r/televisionhasbeenbombardedwithpromotionsforAmazon'sshowsforawhilenow.Sincethere's
noconsistentsitewiderulesagainstadvertisingorhatespeech,thatsortofthinghasbecomecommonplace.
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til:r/StormfrontorSJW
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[] helpwhothefuckami undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Huh?
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Theyarecalledshill,ormorecorrectlyastroturfing.AKochBrothersshilldidanAMAabout3yearsagoanditwasbothawesomeand
disturbing.TheNewYorkTimesalsoranastoryaboutthis(notdirectlyrelatedtoreddit)showingaUkrainiancompanythatdoesthis
onsocialmediaandnewssitecomments.
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Koch?TheDupontowners?
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Notheydon'townDupont.Mostlytheyareoilandgas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries
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Ah.TheyboughtInvistafromDupont.Ithoughtthatboughtthewholecompany.
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NonotheDupontfamilystillhastheirwelldeservedseatattheIlluminatitableinthebunkerundertheWashington
Monument.
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[] warningkchshch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IstherealinktoNYTstory?Can'tfindit.
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Ican'teithersorry.Itwasaboutan"unassuming"buildingwherepeopleclockineverydaytowritecorporatepropagandaon
theinternet.Alsotheyaretreatedpoorly,overworked,andunderpaid...butwhoisn'tthesedays.
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[] AlwaysThoughtful undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Linkplease?Soundsreallyinteresting!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/pku22/iama_former_koch_industries_pr_sock_puppet_ama/
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Russiaisalsohugeonsocialmediaastroturfing
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NonoredditjusthappenstolovePutin,amanwhorosetopoliticalpowerbybombinghisownfuckincountry.
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[] whatamidoing11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'tthenumber1cityofredditusersanairforcebase?
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Whywouldthatmatter?
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Whythedownvotes?It'salegitquestion.WhywouldalargenumberofredditorsbeinglocatedonanAirForceBase
matter?Icanguaranteeyouthatpeoplethatarenotfederalemployeesormilitarymembersarenotcomingonthat
baseandactivelyvotingdowncomments.
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[] ACAFWD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwasyearsago.
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Wouldnotbesurprised.Thereissomuchshillbullshitonthissiteitsinsane...everytimeMonsanto,Fracking,Putin,and
othertopicsshowupitsjustfullofveryfastandsuccinctvotebrigading.Reallytheenemyoffreespeechonlinewon'tbe
censorshipbutcommentbotswithbought&paidforagendas,drowningoutlegitimatediscussionandconcerns.
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[] JiMb01101 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CanIaskwhatyoumeanbyvotebrigading?Doyoumeanupvotingantifracking/putin/monsantopostsortheopposite?
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Brigadingjustmeansagroupofpeopleshowupenmasstopushtheiragendaviavotingorcommenting.To
clarify,anygroupcanbrigade(proorcon)anditsbannableonreddit.ButhereI'mtalkingmoreaboutcorporate
shills.
Ithinkthetermshillgenerallyreferstopeoplepaidoronthepayrolltosupportacertainindustry,suchasthe
KockBrosAMAImentioned.Inthiscontextthebrigadingwouldbeproxy/altaccounts(oruniquepeoplewhoare
onthesamemarketingteam)thatshowuptoanythreadthatmentionsexampleFracking,andpoststhesame
premadereplies,orupvotes/downvotestogethertomaketheiragendaseempopular.Suretherearenormal
peoplethatsupportFracking,butALSOcertainpeopleobviouslyarepaidtoputthatshitongooglealertsand
webcrawlingscriptstofindeverysinglementionofitonredditandothersitesandpushaproFrackingagenda.
Generallythissortofshillbrigadingisonlyproindustrybecauseindustryhasafinancialstakeinittopaypeople
forthis"service",whereastheantiFrackingpeopledon'thaveafinancialincentiveandtendtobejustconcerned
normalpeople.I'mgeneralizingbutthatisprettymuchthetypeofthingweareseeingbecomecommon.
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[] wendy_stop_that undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatwastheKochBrosshillonabout?
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SomeonelinkedtheAMAbelowmycomment.Basicallyspammingredditandothersocialmediaandnews(comments
section)siteswithfalseinformationandpropagandaviews.
Itsactuallyamazingtheeffectitcanhave.Evenhereonredditifyoumakeacommentthatgetsseveraldownvotesitmakes
youwonder"whoisdisagreeingwithme?"butitssomethinganyonecanfigureouthowtodoathomewithafewproxiesetc...
thenimagineifthatisyourjob8hoursadaytopushpropagandaandyouhaveatrilliondollarcorporationbackingyouto
buildateamandfinanceanyproxiesandinfrastructureyouneed,itsveryeasytomakecertainviewsseempopularand
createafalsenarrativeofthepoliticalclimate.
OhandifyouarewonderingwhatspecificpoliciestheypushedwasmostlytheKochBrosracist,environmentallydevastating,
warmongering,stuffyoldtrillionairewhiteguypoliciesa.k.a.warsandprofitattheexpenseofeveryoneandeverything.
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[] chickenthinkseggwas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysureI'vehadthishappentooneofmyposts.ItwasjustaquestionaboutUShegemony.Notaloadedor
rhetoricalquestion.Justanhonestlynaiveone.IforgetexactlywhatIasked.Ican'tfinditnow,butyoucansearchmy
historyifyoucareenough.Butitwasdownvotedlikemad.A'controversial'post,Iguessyouwouldcallit.Ittookaweek
togetananswer,andinthattimeIwascheckingitoften.Itkeptbouncingbackandforthbetweenapositivevotescore
andthenbackto0again.
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[] Atimo3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
racist,environmentallydevastating,warmongering,stuffyoldtrillionairewhiteguypolicies
Well,thatwouldexplain...Reddit.
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[] boredasshitrightnow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/animeseemstodothataswell
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[] utohh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mjustcurious,buthow?I'mjustacasualsubscribertor/animeandIdon'tseeanythingobvious.
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YoucantdoanythingnegativeagainstMAL.
TheycanhostAamaforownerbutcanttalkaboutallthebusinessdealstheyhavelikecuttingoutfansubsforshitty
daisukiwhenyoulookupsubs.
Thenodramaruletheyhaveinplaceandtheweaboowhatisanimerulekindaenforcesthis.
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[] RandomDeception undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Huh.Canyouclarifythat?
Isit/r/animethatI'dagainstfansubsorMyAnimeList?
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Animeisformalitseems.
Malisaanimeforum/databasethatisbecomingincreasinglybusinesstized
Malisheavilyintergratedtosub.
Itsagainstrulestotalkaboutanythingaboutdetailsofmalbusinessunderthedramaroomandwhats
animerelatedrule.
Yetitsoktohostamasforownerwhothanksfortraffic
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[] RandomDeception undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow.Isee.
Ididn'trealize/r/animebecameMyAnimeList'slapdog.
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[] Bonkeryonker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DoyouhavealinktotheAMA?
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[] 0go undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Couldbethis
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[] ItSaidMakeAUsername undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ManIwishwe'dgetmoreAMAslikethat.IjoinedRedditbecauseoftheonefromtheprisonguard(probablyoneofthe
theonlythreadsonredditI'vereadforhoursonend)andtheonefromthepeanutbutterfactoryworker.
go see my new movie plz"
AllIseethesedaysis"FamousPersonHere
thatlitterthefrontpageandthenahandfulofpeople
withcompletelyordinarylivesbuthavelike12commentsonit.
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[] Middleman79 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Try/r/casualamait'snotalways
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Yathatisit.Irememberthiscommentwasparticularlystriking:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/pku22/iama_former_koch_industries_pr_sock_puppet_ama/c3q6ce1
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[] LegoYourEgo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AssomeonewhohasworkedwithKochindustriesinthepoliticalrealmIcantellyoutheydon'thireorneedshills.
Kochsinfluenceenoughpeoplethattheytakethecauseuponthemselves.
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Ican'thelpbutdon'ttheveracityofthisAmA.He'sincrediblyflimsywithhisanswers,usesaKochIndustries
badgeashisonly"proof'andpurelyseemstorevelinhisabilitytotrickpeopleonline.WhichIthinkismore
reflectiveoftheAmAthanhisactualstory.
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[] gotenks1114 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Calmdown,shill.
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I'mneithernotcalmorashill.
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Justthink.Ifaliberalpretendedtobeaconservativetodiscreditconservatism.That'scccrazzy.
Butaconservativeshillastroturfingonreddit?Obviouslybelievable.
lol
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Idunno,seemslegittome.MaybetryandfollowupwiththemodsfromthenorsomethingbutIwouldn't
takeanythingonredditasgospel.
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It'snotreallyworthit.IwouldnotbesurprisedatalltofindoutthatPRteamsformegacorps&
businessinterestgroupsareastroturfing&trollingtheinternet,includingplaceslikeReddit&
Facebook.Idon'treallycarethough,andIdon'tthinktheyhaveasmuchofaneffectaspeoplethink
theydo.They'reeitherpreachingtothechoirorangeringtheopposition...unlessofcoursethey'rejust
tryingtobedivisiveatthemainintent.
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unlessofcoursethey'rejusttryingtobedivisiveatthemainintent.
ThathasbeenthemainoutcomeofourcurrentderegulatedTVnewssituationinUSAso
probablythatispartofthestrategy.Polarizeeveryonesothatextremeideologysomehow
seemsmorerational.
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[] KSA_crown_prince undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WewereoutlinedastrategytomakeourbasebelievethatwefoundactualWMDsinIraq.Thisisn'tjust
spin.Alotofgoodmenhavediedbecauseoflieslikethese.
Meh:Americansoldierswerejustthemercenariesofthenaughties.
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Ohcoolatrollaccount!
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HA!LikeIvoted.
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Itsimportanttovotesothatyoucanpickthebestchoiceforyourcountry
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[] doopercooper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
shill
Alotofthedefaultmodsgettheirdickssuckedbytheseshillsandbanuserswhocallthemonit.I'mbannedfromvarioussubsfor
this.r/videosisasubdoingthis.TheRedditadminsneedtohavemoreoversightonmodsofdefaultsubsthatgetallthetraffic
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[] TheMentalist10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alotofthedefaultmodsgettheirdickssuckedbytheseshills[...]r/videosisasubdoingthis.
Isthatright?Where'syourevidence?
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r/nottheoniontoo
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[] FrostyPlum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thanksforremindingmetounsubscribe,lol
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Heh,theadmins...staffofreddit,inc.,whichownthemarketingplatform,reddit.com,knowsaboutit.
Theydevelopedreddit.comwithinvestorbackingtonotmakeamajorreturninonewayoranother.
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[] cheerful_cynic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,untiltheychangedtheprivacypolicytoincludethefactthattheycansellyourinfotoadvertisersjustrecently
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oops,Iremovedthe"not",mybad
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yes,moremoderationiskey,ifeveryoneisbannedtherewillbenoshitposts
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[] badgering_me undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ByshadowcultdoyoumeangovernmentswithhostilestancestowardscapitalismandWesternviews?Becausethenyes.
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[] smarvin6689 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whaaaat?Nooooo.That'scrazy.
He's onto us! Abort! ABORT!
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Themainsubsaremoreorlesshalffilledwithsponsoredcontent.
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[] ElliotNess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Half?
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[] pianoblack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereshouldbeasubredditwherepeoplejustrepostthreadsthatgetdeletedintheirownsubs
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[] OfficeSpaceBalls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/undelete
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/r/centuryclub
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[] Scarbane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/CenturyClubisnotsomuchashadowcultasitisatreehousefullofactiveusers,nottheleastofwhicharewellknownactorslike
WilWheatonandPeterMayhew.
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[] scy1192 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wow,PeterMayhewreallywantspeopletoknowhe'sPeterMayhew
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[] Dead_Rooster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haha,Iwishtherewassomeconspiracytogowithit.Inrealityit'sjustaboringshitholefullofpeoplesouninterestingtheyhave
enoughtimetogainover100,000karmaonReddit.
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[] MisallocatedRacism undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orfullofpeoplethathavebeendeemedsuperinteresting,over100,000timesbyothers.
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100,000commentsorlinksthatnoonevotesonstillgetsyou100,000karma.You'rejusttryingtoassignpositive
meaningtoyourkarma.
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Butyet,Ihaven'tmadenear100,000postsorcomments..
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AllI'msayingisifyouthrowshitatawallalldaysomeofit'sboundtostick.I'vebeendoingitforalmost
sevenyears.Doesn'tmakemeamoreinterestingperson.ItjustmeansIsitatacomputermoreoftenthan
mostotherpeople.
Karmaain'tshit.Andanyonewhothinksit'simportantisdelusional.
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Imean,I'mnotdisagreeingwithyouforthemostpart,justthe"uninteresting"brushyoupaintwith.
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[] scy1192 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
100%true
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That'swhattheywantustothink
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No,trustme.IamuninterestingenoughthatI'manapprovedsubmitter.Ilastedaboutaweekbeforeunsubscribing.
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[] boldandbratsche undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouneed100,000karmaorsomething?
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yup
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[] Peter_Mansbrick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yes
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[] Blizzerac undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isitcombinedkarmaorlinkkarma?
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Linkorcomment.Combineddoesn'tcount.
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Damn.LookslikeI'vegotalongwaytogo.
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Webelieveinyou.
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Thanksman:)
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Bullshit,I'vegotwaymorethanthatandtheywon'tletmein.
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[] DownvoteDaemon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didyouask?
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Multipletimes.WhentheyfinallyrespondedtheysaidthatIdidn'tseemtowanttofurthertheirmindsetand
goals.
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Yeah,oneofthemodshadabadexperiencewithsharksanddecidedthatyoubeingaroundwouldtriggerthem.
Sorry.
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They'rejustafraidofpeoplefindingouthowtheycontrolreddit.
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[] ChildoftheIndigo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
no,theyareafraidofsharks.
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Hahahahaha...ToobusywithselfiesandCCcentric.gifslasttimeIbotheredtogothere.
Therewasapointintheearlydayswhere"contests"didrevolvearoundactivelygettingcontentofanagreedupontopictothefront
page,butitwasjustowlsorActiviaandtheAdminsgotpissedatusafterafewweeksofthat.
ModernCenturyClubiswaytoobusynavelgazingtobeeitherinterestingorpushinganagenda.
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[] stufff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'ttelltheplebsthesecretsofourpower
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[] siouxsie_siouxv2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
:(
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That'swhattheywantustothink.You'reobviouslyashilloftheirsrunningcounterintel.
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[] Armadylspark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forallyouknow,westilldoitbehindthescenes.Likefightclub.
/r/cccult
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[] love_the_heat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IheartheygetfreekarmaandgoldandcancashtheminforVISAgiftcards.ThismessagewasnotpaidforbyVISA.
/r/cccultownsVISA
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[] pdmcmahon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nodummy,onlyAmexcards:)
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[] Idk__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...wtf
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wereyoubehindthepeacocksandfoxes?
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Wellthereisasubreddityouonlygetinvitedtoafter100,000karma...butthenyou'dknowthatwouldn'tyou.)
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[] mirai317 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neitherwouldyouapparently.
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[] snorlackjack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait...Arewetalkingabout....SRS?
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[] Jeanpuetz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Despitewhateveryonethinks,SRSusuallydoesn'tbrigadethatmuch.
Everysubredditthatlinkstootherredditcommentshasproblemswithvoteshifting,brigading,etc.buttherearesubredditsthatare
wayworsewiththisthanSRS./r/SubredditDramais,unfortunately,prettybad(althoughIlikethesub).
Theworstoffender,byfar,is/r/bestof.
Usuallywhensomeonesayssomethinglike"Ohh,lookslikeSRSisbrigadingagain!!"thevotesarealreadyshiftinginonedirection,
andSRShasabsolutelynothing,ornexttonothing,todowithit.
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[] Armadylspark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SRSissmalltime.We'retalkingaboutthebiggerfish.
Youknow,/r/CenturyClub.
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Ohgod...Them....
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[] AsshatVik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatain'tevenaconspiracy,lookatsomedefaultsubsandyou'llseeagendasbeingpusheddownthesubscribersthroats.
Seriously,takeahardlookat/r/europeandtellmewithastraightfacethatplacedoesn'tcensorthehelloutofcontentthatdoesn'tfit
theirnarrative.
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IalwaysfeelasenseofpridewhenIgetacommenthistorydownvotewave.I'dupvoteyourothercommentstohelpyououtbutI
sortoffeelthatisalmostasbadasmassdownvotesinaway.
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[] justonemorequestion1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisisalsostrangelytrueof/r/cfb.AnyproSECcontent(thedominantconference)getsfilteredveryheavilyanduserswhosupport
theSECloudlygetsuspended/bannedforverylittlereasonwithnoorincorrectexplanation.theresultisaminorconference(Big
10)getsallthetopicsandeverythreadisfilledwithinsultstoSECteamsandfansandthosefansgetheavilydownvotedleadingto
aabsurdforumnotreflectinganysortofreality
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[] Tranger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I...don'tseethedownvotesonyouruserpage?
AnywayI'lljustechotowhat/r/McFluffTheCrimeCatsaid.
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[] NYCtacos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iambannedfromr/cfbformakingfunofNotreDame.Fitsthebill.
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[] Leecannon_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tellmemoreofthisnarrative
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[] Givemeawayoutofhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearesomanysubslikethis.Andthereareatonofsubsthatareingoodstandingwiththeadminsforsomereason,even
thoughtheyregularlyparticipateindownvotebrigading,someofthemowningasmanyas20altseach.
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[] NashBiker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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I'mconvincedthathalfoftheproBernieRedditorsareallshills.Theyalwayssaythesamefuckingphrase"Andhe'sgottherecord
toproveit"verbatim.There'snowayhalfofthoseguysaren'treadingfromscripts.
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[] Lybertine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/politicsisundoubtedlyoneofthose.Thenumberoftopratedpostsoncertainissues/candidatesmakesitclear.Ifthat'snot
enough,noticehowit'sahandfulofposterswhoconsistentlydrawthehighestratedposts.
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lol
Clearlyremovingracismspamiscensorshipdonebyashadowycabalofleftists.
You'renutsbro
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[] promonk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybetheydownvotedyoubecauseyoukindasoundlikeadickhead.
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[] AYO_VINNY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Downvotesarethemostmisusedthingonreddit.They'resupposedtobeusedtohidethingsthataren'trelevant,insteadthey're
usedtosilenceanyonewithadifferentopinion.
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[] Keshaluvr887 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/europeisracistasfuckandatrashsubreddit,I'mtotallywithyou
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Therewasaperiodofaboutayearwhenstuffthatmadethemilitarylookgoodwasconstantlyfrontpaged
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[] FredAsta1re undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeelthedefaultsubsaretryingtoconvincemethatweedisthemostwonderfulthingonearthandthereisabsolutelynothing
wrongwithit
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[] ShitfacePhil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andsomemodsfrom/r/unitedkingdom(wheresimilarpracticesoccur)slowlytookover/r/europeandinstalledtheirpreferredmods.
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[] Imperator_Knoedel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foundthefascistspy.
Ohtherearepeopletryingtoshovedowntheiragendaotherpeoples'throathson/r/europe,andIamgladthemodsaredoing
enoughaboutitthatthesepeoplehavetogowhineaboutzheeeeeeeevilcensorsinothersubs.
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[] nomad1c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foundthefascistspy
GOLDSTEIN!!!
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Callingmenamesain'tgonnamakeyouanysmarter,righterorwronger,itjustprovesyouain'tgotanythingconstructiveto
saysoyoulabelmearandombadword.
Getlost.
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Iindeeddon'thaveanythingconstructivetosay.Fascistsaretobedestroyed.Period.
Thereisnothingrandomaboutmychoiceofwords,yourpostinghistorymakesyourpoliticalleaningsclearforallto
see.
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Okay,pleaselistwhatmakesmeafascist.
I'llwaithere,youhave18monthsofpostinghistoryatyourdisposal.
Iknowverywellyou'lljustcallmeafascistagainandthrowexcusesnottobackyourclaimswithproof.
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Takeascreenshotofthedesktop,setitasbackground,deleteallicons,pushthetaskbaraslowasit
goesandlockit.
YouareworsethanHitler!
...
Alright,fine,Iamsorry,"fascist"wasinretrospectoverlyharshanduncalledfor.IguessImistookyouforan
amalgationofseveralotherreactionarypostersinthisthread.
Nevertheless...
I'mamiddlegroundegalitarian,proguns,profreespeech,antifeminist,immigrationskepticuser.
Youarestillareactionaryoverall,especiallywithregardstowomen'srights(doIneedtoquoteallyour
postsagainstfeminismorwillmywordsuffice?)andjudingbyhowyoucallyourself"immigrationskeptic"
andyourwhiningaboutthemodsof/r/europedoingalltheycantostoptheongoingNaziinfiltration
attemptsbeingStalinism."Middleground"isarelativeandmeaninglessterm,progunscouldbeeitherway,
freespeechisinpracticejustaneuphemismforlettingfascistsspreadtheirpropagandawhereverthey
want.
Alsoyoucan'tbeegalitarianandagainstfeminsm,that'slikesayingyouareegalitarianandinfavorof
Apartheid,itjustmakesnosense,butnowyouwillprobablycomebackwithabunchofMRApropaganda
aboutaffirmativeactionbeingthesameasinstitutionalizedracismandwomenbeingpriviligedandthepoor
mensandblabla.
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[] bad_news_everybody undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilikethispost.
Itbasicallyclarifiesthatasfarasyou'reconcerned,beingprofreespeechisfascistbecausethe
wrongkindsofpeoplemightspeak.Andbeingagainstfeminism?Alsobasicallyfascism.
progunscouldbeeitherway
Hasthereeverbeenafascistwhichwasproguns?BywhichImeanproeveryonehavingguns,
insteadofpro"theirside"havingguns?
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Welltechnicallyfreespeechisaliberalconcept,andmerelythespawningplaceforfascist
propaganda.Question:Isitokayforapersoninacrowdedtheatertoshout"Fire!"justforfun
becauseMUHFREESPEECH?
BeingopposedtoFeminismisdefinitelyreactionaryandawarningsign,butdefinitelynot
exclusivetofascistsasitisacommontraitsharedbyreactionariesofallsorts.
Iamprettysurethereisanumberoffascistswhowouldlovetoseewhotheydeemauthentic
membersofthenationalbodyarmedsotheycanproperlydefendagainstthenation'senemies,
butthesameargumentcanbemadefromacommunistpointofviewwiththeworkingclass
insteadofnation.In'Murricaatleastthemajority(oratleastaverynoticeablepart)ofprogun
peopleseemtobereactionary,andhereinEuropeIhavenevermetanyoneinreallifewho
saidtheywereprogun,butlikeIsaiditcouldgobothwaysandIpersonallydon'thaveastrong
stanceineitherdirection.
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lsoyoucan'tbeegalitarianandagainstfeminsm
Ishouldspecify"thirdwavefeminism",theonethatwantssafespaces,complainsabout
"manspreading"and"mansplaining",theonethatdoesabsolutelyfuckalltohelpadvancewomen
whereitcounts.
Allthese"feminists"aredoingisjustshootingaoncegreatmovementinthefootbyactinglikeidiots.
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[] AnotherDayInMe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LEL,/r/europeisnotasbadastheliberalspushingtheiragenda/r/newsistheworst.
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Let'sbehonest,pushingagendasisbad,butpushingthemtomillionsofsubscribersonadefaultpageonwhatwasorignally
createdasafreespeechplatform(Adminslaterretconnedthisone)makesthemdespicablehumanbeings.
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Somepeoplearesofuckingpetty,itamazesme.
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[] krack_fox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovehowpeoplegoanddothisasifitwillsomehowmakeadifferenceorhavesomeeffect.
Atleastyouaresafeintheknowledgethatthey'vewasted10minsoftheirlife.
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Everylittlethingtheydownvoteonmyhistoryi'llgetback,buttheywon'tgetbackthetimethey'rewastingbeingabunchof
crybullieswhocan'tevenreadacommentwithoutgettingtriggered.
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[] renome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreewithyoubutstillfindithardtotakeyouseriouslywhenyoustartbitchingaboutkarma,especiallysinceupvoting/downvoting
contentfromtheuserpagedoesn'tactuallydoanythingsoit'seitheronlyonereallydedicatedpersonoryoumadeeverythingup.
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Youcancheckonmyuserpage,it'snotthefirstnorthelasttimeit'llhappensinceidon'tfollowthehivemind.
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[] Brigante87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActuallyIdisagree.Theydidcensorposts,e.g.theyremovedeverypostaboutimmigrationtoEuropeandallthenewsaroundthat
currentcrisis.Somanypeoplecomplainedtheychangedtheirmind.
Whatkindofstuffdoyouthinkthey'recensoringnowadays?
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Alsor/atheismnottosayatheismisbadbutthatsubisajoke,andeveryoneontheretotallybuyseverythingthatisposted.It'slike
theyarejustashivemindedasanyreligiontheyshiton.
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[] Stranger371 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Worldnewsisthesameshithole.TheGermanstherearelike90%nazis.AndIsaythisasaGerman.
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Mostdefaultsaregenerallyshitholesiavoidlikeplague.
Only/r/AskRedditisanygoodusuallyandthenonlybecausetherereallyain'tmuchtocensoraroundherebarringspamon
thenewqueue.
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[] A_favorite_rug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foundthe/r/Europeanuser.
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Sorrytodisappointyou,idon'tparticipateineitherechochambers.
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[] leonardo97 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyoumeanr/Europedoesn'tcensorthehelloutof*continentthatdoesn'tittheirnarrative
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Idunno,Redditisallbutintentionallydesignedtocreatenarrativesandcensorthingsthatdon'tgoalongwithit.
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[] Lucifirius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/europehasacoolstylethough,andthemapisawesome.
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[] EireOfTheNorth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoodluckpostingsomethingwithevenasemblanceofsympathytowardRussiainthatsub.
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[] J0bon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/subredditcancer
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Yourealizemostofthat'stokeepthepeopleof/r/Europeanoutbecausethere'ssomeseriouswouldbeneonazisthere.
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[] Aceroth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wouldbe
Let'snotgivethemtoomuchcredit
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[] ohstrangeone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatdoesn'tjustifyit.
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[] uBlockOrigin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hi,Ifrequent/r/European.Icansaywithgreatconfidencethatneonazi'sarebarelyfound,atleastnotinhigherfrequency
thanin/r/Europe.Thelatter,however,hasseriousissuesregardingfreespeech(orratherthelackthereof)andcancerous
mods.They'redeletingsubmissionsaboutanythingthatdoesn'tstroketheirfarleftextremistideals,especiallywhenitcomes
tothecurrentimmigrationissue.
Don'tbelievetheanti/r/Europeanpropaganda.
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[] TheLazySocialist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Farleft=nothatingMuslimsnow?TimetotellmostofthepeopleIknowthattheirdamncommies.
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..what?WhosaidanythingaboutMuslims?
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[] MexicanGolf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Europeandid.Seriously,ifitwasnamedbasedonitsmosttalkedabouttopicitwouldbe/r/Muslims.
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Anyonewho'sspent30secondsonthatsubredditknowswhatit'sabout.LookingatthefrontpagenowI
seepostsaboutthe"Islamisation"ofSweden,howmuslimaylumseekerssupposedly"approve"oftheParis
attacks,MarineLaPen,approvalofdomesticChristianterrorism,"black,migrantandgyppos"shills,avideo
titled"MakeWhitesGreatagain"etc.etc.
Soeitheryou'renewtothesubreddit,unawareofit'spurposeandeatingupit'spropoganda(whichissadly
quitecommon),oraterrible,racistliar.
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Interesting.So,whatdoyouhavetosaytodefend/r/Europefrommasscensoringanythingthat
doesn'talignwiththemodsviews?
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[] Sporkosophy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeISalazysocialist.
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WhileImaybelazy,IhavespentfartoomuchtimeandeffortlearningaboutonlineNeoNazismtofall
forbullshit.
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So,youthinkI'maneonazi?Youthinkmostusersonthatsubareneonazi's?I'msorrybut
you'remakingitquitedifficulttobetakenseriously.
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Soyou'rebasicallysayingcensorshipisokaybecauseavocalminoritymightbeheardsomewhere?
Sorrytoburstyourbubblebuddybuttheonlythingtheyachievebydoingthatispreventingdebateandcreatingecho
chambersforbothviewpoints.
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[] Parade_Precipitation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sorrytoburstyourbubblebuddybuttheonlythingtheyachievebydoingthatispreventingdebateandcreating
echochambersforbothviewpoints.
goodpoint.ofcourseitgetsdownvotedthough.
these"safespaces"thatallthesechildrendemandwillhaveusdrinkingbrawndoinnotime
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[] irjowo99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
@asshatvikIupvotedyoujustsoyourcommentdoesn'tgetdowngraded.
Iactuallydon'tknowthissituationspecifically.GenerallyspeakingthoughIthinkbothsideshavegoodpointshere.
IagreewithyouJiveturkeithatlifeinanechochambercanbehelpfulmainlyIthinkithelpspeopletogainconfidence.
Iagreewithyoualsoasshatvikthateventuallyyesweneedchallengetoavoidbecomingrigidanddogmatic.
Theissueaboutcommunitystandardsonreddit(oranywhereelse)ismuchtrickier.Howdowedesignawebforumthat
balancesfreeexchangeofideaswithconsiderationoffeelingsaswellassomebaselinestandardoftruth?
Rightnowwehaveaveryrigidhierarchicalmodelforprettymucheveryorganizationintheworld,withonlysomesmall
modificationstowarddemocracyinthebestofcircumstances.
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[] lazydictionary undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Internetforumsarenotdemocracies.Modswillalwaysholdpowerovertheusers.Getoveritlol.
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Foundthe/r/Europeanuser.
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Iseeyoudeleteyourowncommentstorepostthemwherethey'remorevisible.
Iadmireyourattemptsatdiscreditingmebutidon'tparticipateineither/r/europeor/r/europeansinceecho
chambersarenotmycupofcoffee.
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Pleasedon'tsendmetoredditjail.Ididn'tmeanit!
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Okaythen,offtothesaltmineswithya.
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Idk,yousupplyplentyofsaltforeveryone.
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[] A_Cylon_Raider undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hesays,onreddit.
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totalitarianandalmoststalinistbehaviour.
Dudeit'saninternetforum.Iunderstandtheangerbutmoveonman.
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[] EditorialComplex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fivebuckssaysthatthey'realsothetypeofpersonwho'dpostsomethinglike"fuckingEuropean/USfeminists
careaboutsocialmediaandportrayalsinfilmwhenmiddleeasternwomenhavetowearburkas"
Relativeprivationneverseemstoapplytothem...
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Lols.
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[] Mysterious_Fred undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseepeoplearguethisalot,butitreallyisabitmoreseriousthanthat.Ahugenumberofusersgettheirnews
exclusivelyfromReddit,soanykindofcensorshiptopushanagendawillactuallymakeanimpactinrealworld
opinions.
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[] Fenring undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AhugenumberofusersgettheirnewsexclusivelyfromReddit,
Wellthat'stheirowndamnfault,isn'tit?
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Itis,butthatdoesnotmakeitoktoknowinglymanipulatewhatinformationtheyreceive.
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[] zombierapingmachine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,ahugenumberofpeoplereinforcetheirbiasedopinionsbyvisitingsubredditsthatagreewiththose
opinions.
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Theydo,butasubredditsuchasr/europedoesnotportrayitselfashavinganycertainopinion.
Peoplemaysubscribetothatthinkingtheywillgetunfilteredinformationabouteuropewhenreally
theyonlygetwhatthemoderatorswantthemtosee.
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You'recurrentlypushinganagenda.It'sbad,stopit.
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[] GrumpyTruth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyonehasanagenda.Stopsayingobviousshitandactinglikeit'sanopinion.
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thatsthejoke.jpg
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[] StLevity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pushinganagendaisfine.Usingcensorshiptopushanagendaisnotfine.
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[] rmwe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcantreallycallitcensorshipthoughwhenyoucanjustgocreateadifferentforum
somewhere,makeyourselfmoderator,andsaywhateveryouwant.
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Congratulations,yougetmypoint.
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Congratulations?WhatdoIwin,moresarcasm?
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Iwasactuallyserious.Ifyouwanticantakeitback.
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[] Jiveturkei undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyouareunderplayingtheimplicationoffindinglikemindedpeopleontheinternetandechoingaboutitfora
while.Ithinkatactuallyplaysatremendousroleinmodifyingpeoplesopinionsontopicsandconcurrentlytheir
behavioraboutthattopic.
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[] sidewalkchalked undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohboohoo.Lookat/r/worldnews.Youcan'tfindasinglearticleaboutmigrantsinEuropethatisn'tfullof
antiMuslimrhetoricandfearmongering.Samewitharticlesaboutmostothertopics,forthatmatter.The
entiresubisanantiIslamcirclejerk.
Youactlikeyou'reanoppressedminority.You'renot.
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Iagreecompletely.IwasspecificallyreferringtothepersonIwasreplyingtounderplayingtherole
someoftheseechochambersplay.Whyareyouandeveryoneelseinthisthreadputtingwordsinmy
mouth?WhenthefuckdidIsayasinglegoddamnthingaboutanythingotherthantheroleonline
forumsplay?
PleaseIamdyingtofuckingknow,becausesofarallofmyreplieshavebeenabsolutelystupidand
pointless.Forexample,fuckingyouruselessreplywhichhasabsolutelynothingtodowithwhatIsaid.
Asshole.
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You'reliterallysayingnothing.YoutoldmeI'mwrongthengavemeanopiniononthetopic.Cool.
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Ididn'tnecessarilysayyouarewrongsomuchasIthinkyouarenotgivingtheenoughcredenceto
theideathatforumscanbebreedinggroundsforalltypesofthinking.Forumshaveactuallycreated
extremists,theyhaveopenedpeople'seyestoinformationtheydidn'thave,andthisinturnmodifies
thewaypeoplethinkabouttings.
IsupposeIcoulddoafewhoursofsearchingtopresentevidenceofthisbutIdidn'twanttoinsult
yourintelligencebydoingso.WhatImeanbythatisIthinkitisobviousthatforumshavethispower
becausetheyonlydifferencebetweenanonlineforumandafacetofaceconversationisthefactthat
youaretalkingtopeoplenotintheimmediatearea.
Soyes,youareprettymuchwrong.Andyouarebeingglibaboutit.
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Mygodyou'reobnoxious.
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[] HelgaTheAlleyWitch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Coolcoolcool
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https://youtu.be/j25tkxg5Vws
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[] fihx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soneonazigood,moderatorsbad
gotit
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[] nomad1c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Freespeechisnowneonazism.We'vecomefullcircle
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Itoo,lookattheworldinsimpleblackorwhite,usvsthem,withusoragainstusliterallyhitlerlogic.
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[] Defenestraight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookatitthisway.Ifacertaintopiccannotbediscussed,peoplegotoaplacewheretheycandiscuss
it.So/r/Europeangetsmoreandmoreusers.
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[] fihx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whycan'tamoderatorteamdecidethatcertaintopicscan'tbebroachedandthusmustmove
subreddits?/r/europeisn'tEurope,it'saninternetforum.
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Nothatwasn'twhatIwassaying.Itwasn'tevenkindofwhatIwassaying.Iwasreferencingthe
abovecommentslackofunderstandingontheeffectthatonlineforumshaveinindividualslives.Ithas
nothingtodowiththecommentabovetheoneIwasreplyingto.
Sono,youdonot''gotit''.Ifyoudid,youwouldn'thavesaidthat.
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[] Parade_Precipitation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifthatswhatyoutookfromthat,you'reaperfectexampleofhowbeingPCmakesyousoover
sensitivethatyoucantseeanythingbeyondyourbias.
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Iwouldn'tevenapplytheword"censorship"here.Redditisn'trunbyagovernment,andnooneisbeingdeniedfreedom
ofspeech.Themodsjustdon'twanttohavetoreadbullshitwhentheyaredoingtheirvolunteerduties.
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Yousoundbitter.Didyougetbannedordoyoujustdisagreewithwhattheyprefer?
FreedomofSpeechdoesn'tmakeyouimmunefromdiciplinaryactionfromrandompeople,onlygovernmentcensorship
Saywhateveryouwant,justdon'texpecttonotgetshit.It'stheirsub,theyrunitasneeded.
Goto/r/Europeanifyouwanttopissonrefugees
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Goto/r/Europeanifyouwanttopissonrefugees
Wheredoigoifiwanttohaveadiscussionwithoutbeingbannedandmutedbyeithersidesincei'mneithera
nazioramarxist?
Mypointwasthatadefaultsubshouldnotbepushingagendas,there'splentyofbignondefaultsubsthatcanact
asechochambersforeitherside.
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ImeanIhaven'tbeenbannedthereyet,andI'minthemiddlemosttimes.Perhapsyouarelessbiasedthan
youthinkdude.
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I'mamiddlegroundegalitarian,proguns,profreespeech,antifeminist,immigrationskepticuser.
Idon'tevenbothergoingto/r/europebecausethemomenti'llopenmymouthi'llprobablyreceive
bansfromdozensofsubstheycollectivelymod.
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[] PainusMania2018 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mamiddlegroundegalitarian,proguns,profreespeech,antifeminist,immigrationskeptic
user.
AndInowhavecancer.
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[] imtoophilosophical undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yousoundneolibertarian
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[] AdvocateForLucifer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Egalitarianantifeminist"
howexactlydoesthatwork.
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That'sdeeprootedrightwing.
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1:Noit'snot.
2:Leftvsrightisbroad,vague,andmeaninglessanyway.
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Youdon'tsoundthatmiddlegrounddude,infactyousoundlikeaprettyfierceconservative.
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[] CharadeParade_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Censorshipisrightandjustifitcensorstherightwing.Therightwingcannotcometopoweragain,inEuropeor
anywhere.
TherewillberevolutionandbloodonthestreetsbeforethefarrighttakeEuropeagain
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[] MajesticAsFook undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FarrighthasworkedsowellinEuropeovertheyearsaye?
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ImsayingthefarrightmustnevertakeEuropeagain.BetterdeathcomestoallleavingEuropeabarren
wastelandthenseethelikesofHitlerandmuzzolinitakepoweragain
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[] manonthecan2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AhyesandfarleftmarxismreallyworkedwellinRussia.Oyveycomrade
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TocalltheSovietpigsMarxistisashameuponMarxandcommunismasawhole.TheSoviets
replacedtheTsarsofRussiaforanotheraristocracy.TheSovietswerenevertruecommunists.
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[] Kid_Gloves_Off undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhaveneonaziwrittenalloveryou,bub.Youguysusethesametacticscreationistsuse:plausibledeniability,
encouraging"debate"aboutsuchthingsaswhetherornotminoritiesshouldliveetc.
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Goingbrieflyoveryourpostinghistoryi'llnowdismissyouasabadtroll.
Youweren'tevenworththetime.
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[] Kid_Gloves_Off undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'matrollbecauseIdon'tthinkthatopinionsontheinternetmatter,ok.
Tellusaboutyourtruefeelingsaboutrace.
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I'matrollbecauseIdon'tthinkthatopinionsontheinternetmatter,ok.
Ifyoureallybelievethat,youwouldn'tbothertoargue.
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[] The_Great_Kal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shh....Ithinkwe'rewatchingatrollfight.Two,inthewild,withhorriblearguments,againsteach
other?Beautiful.
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[] Fumblerful undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pleaseexplain.Iseesomeundertonebutiamunsurewhatitis.
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IseePallywoodshills,Russianapologists,Muricaisthegreatestguys,etc....Peoplehaveagendas
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Let'ssaythemodteamisleftistbeyondbelief.
Anypostfromanysource(includingReuters)whichpaintsimmigrantsasanythinglessthanverygoodforEuropegets
removed.
Anycommentsayingthatsamethinggetsdeletedandtheuserbannedusually.
Theyrecentlywentalongwith/r/offmychestandstartedbanningpeoplefrequentingsubstheydislike.
Thatsubshouldloseit'sdefaultstatusatonce.
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[] NiggerBaboon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
REDDITISDEAD.
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Seriouslylet'sjustGTFOtogether,andthejewwhoownsthissitebabysitabunchofSJWs.
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[] rsashe1980 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RIPFreeSpeechandFreeThought.TheSJWBorgisuponus.
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[] mclemons67 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyrecentlywentalongwith/r/offmychest[1]andstartedbanningpeoplefrequentingsubstheydislike.
Holyshit.Theywentfullsafespace?Hasanyonecheckedtomakesuretheyweren'tvictimsoftesticulartheft?
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[] 5th_Law_of_Robotics undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theirmainmodalsomodsblackladiesandagainstmensrights.So...yeah.
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[] ThriftyTricks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow.Areyousurewe'relookingatthesamesubreddit?Basicallyallthecommentson/r/Europearehatefultowards
refugees.
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Let'ssaythemodteamisleftistbeyondbelief.Anypostfromanysource(includingReuters)whichpaints
immigrantsasanythinglessthanverygoodforEuropegetsremoved
IstartedanaccountoveratVoatforthisveryreason.
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Notleftist,neoliberal,whichisarguablyright.LeftmaybeintheUSbutthat'snotsayingmuchasit'swellknownour
leftisrightwingstilltomostoftheworld.
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[] dstz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisweird,asaEuropeanihavetoavoid/r/Europebecauseifindittobeadistressinglyangryandxenophobic
subredditsimilarto/r/worldnews.
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[] _nationalist_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatraceareyou?WhatareyoudoinginFrance?
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[] LampPostMonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/worldnewsistheangryxenophobicone?It'saliberalwonderlandcomparedto/r/news...
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I'vefoundthemodsofworldnewsareacceptingofcriticismofmanygroups,butnotmiddleeasternersor
Muslims.
Iwasbannedtherefor"racism"becauseIclaimedIslamwasnotfoundedonpeaceandtolerance.
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Worldnewsisokayuntilyougetathreadthat/u/DrBoomkinandhislackeysstartsayingshitin.
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Youthink?ifind/r/newstobealotmoretolerablethanworldnews.Maybei'mwrongthough.
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[] redping undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
gotoany/r/newsthreadaboutBLMandyou'llrealiseitcangetprettystormfronty
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Iagreewiththat.Ithinkthat/r/news(ascanbejudhedfromamajorityopinion)expressesa
veryproblematicaspectofreddit'sdemographics.Istillthinkthat/r/worldnewsisevenworse,in
that/r/newshassomeobviousblindspotsandangers(blmisastrongexample)butisless
generallyangry.
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[] Aceroth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,whenyou'recomparingapileofshittoabiggerpileofshit...
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[] karimr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sbullshit.
ThemodteamistryingtokeepStormfrontfrombrigadingtheirsubreddit.Justlookatthecesspitthatis/r/european,
that'swhathappensifyoudon'tdosomethingaboutthat.
Anddespitethat,thegeneraltonethereisstillquitexenophobicattimes.Ireallydon'tseehowthesubredditis
supposedtobesomesortofleftistdictatorship,justspendafewdayslookingatthecommentthreadsthere.
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[] Jimmars undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salmostasifEuropeisbeinginvadedbyimmigrantsandthatthatisn'taverygoodthing.Andpeopleare
generallyunhappywhenbadthingshappentothem.
AreyouAmerican,byanychance?
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Andpeoplearegenerallyunhappy
There'sadifferencebetweenbeingunhappyaboutthewaytherefugeecrisisisbeinghandledandspewing
hateateverythingnonwhite.
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whyshouldtheybeabletobancommentsandcommentorsbecausetheyhaverightwingviews?thatseemsto
beexactlywhatheisrightlycomplainingabout.themodsarekeepingthemajorityofopinionsfrombeingposted
becausetheydon'tlikeit:howisthatnotstraightupstoppingfreespeech?
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whyshouldtheybeable
Thisisaprivatewebsite,notapublicinstitution.
Whenthereisanactiveefforttoruinyoursubredditbyturningitintoaxenophobicshitholewhereonesingle
subjectgetsshoveddownyourthroatallday(see/r/european),it'sonlyreasonabletotryandkeepthe
instigatorsfromcomingthere.Ahandsoffmoderationapproachdoesn'talwaysworkasintended.
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soyouaresayingmodsshouldbeabletobasicallyputtheirowncontentinplacethattheylike?that
seemstogoagainstthewholeethosofredditwhichisifcontentisgoodthevotersdecide,notafew
decidingwhateveryoneshouldbeabletosayandread
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/r/europeisaborderlinehatesub.Iwasreallyconfusedwhenhewastalkingaboutithavingaleftistagenda.
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Whenyou'reanazi,leftistmeanseverythingleftofhitler.
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Whenyou'reaSRSter,anythingrightofLeninisHitler.
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I'veseenpeoplegettingupvotedforadvocatingNazipoliciesoverthere,andlotsofactualusernames
alludingtotheNazi's,whitesupremacists,orMuslimkillers.I'msortofwonderinghowmuchmore
radicallyrightwingsomepeoplewantthatsubtoget,besidesoutrightmakingacalltoarmsforthe
murderofanyoneaslightoffshadeofwhite.
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[] PartOfTheHivemind undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whenyou'reamodernliberaleverythingtotheleftandrightisNazism.
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[] defeatedbird undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilikehowanyonecriticizingmulticulturalismormassimmigrationislabeledaracist,ahater,etc.
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Youclaimthatanyonecriticizingmulticulturalismormassimmigrationislabeledaracistwhichisnot
true.
Youalsoimplythatisall/r/europeisdoing,whichisalsonottrue.
Justgivingyousomeinsightastowhyyouweredownvoted.
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[] defeatedbird undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,IgotdownvotedbecauseRedditisyoung,liberal,inexperiencedandthey'vebeentaught
thatthepeoplein/r/Europedrewthe"wrong"conclusion.
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[] Claidheamh_Righ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/europeisnotaplaceyougoifyou'relookingforanunderstandingplaceforrefugees...
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yeahgotoamerica.
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/r/america?
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[] CaligulasDog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereareseveralpostscriticalofrefugeesonthefrontageof/r/Europerightnow.
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[] _nationalist_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeenbannedfromthatsubatleast20times.
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[] ayygiddyup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notherearen't.
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Ifbycriticalyoumeanarticleslinkingtostormfrontlikesites?Thennot.Ifyobycriticalyoumeantopics
abouttherefugeecrisis,wegetthemthereseveraltimesaday.
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[] ayygiddyup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/3ubvy5/reurope_removes_every_thread_related_
to_the_paris/
https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/3u9gg4/reurope_mod_curses_out_a_user_and_
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bans_him_for/
https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer/comments/3tw1tu/reurope_users_should_be_protected_fro
m_some_news/
SRCisfullofexampleslikethis.Europemodsevenwentthrough/r/Europeanbanningmemberswho
postthereeventhoughthey'dbrokennoruleson/r/Europe.It'sseriouslyoneofthemostbiasedsubs
onreddituptherewithSRS.
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What'sthedramabetweenr/Europeandr/European?
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Link1and3areaboutdeletingrepostsaboutthesametopic.Isawtheissuediscussedseveral
timeson/r/Europe.
Link2isaboutabanthatmayhavebeenunjustified.
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[] ttchoubs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Now/r/offmychesthasabotthatbansautomaticallyanyonewhohaspostedintheirsubandinalistofsubstheydeem
wrong(/r/KiAforinstance)
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[] SmellYaLater undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndtheADMINSwilldonothingatallaboutit.Ican'twaittillthissiteendsuplikemyspace.Thepeoplewhoown
andrunredditdeservenothing.Theyhavehadsomanychancesandtheyfuckitupeverytime.
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[] thetacticalspycrab undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/TumblrInActionisalsoacasualtyofthis.Icommenttherealotbutthebothasyettotakeme
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[] IngwazK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tobefair,TiAischerrypickedshitthatreallyreallydoesnotrepresentwhatpeoplearesayingaboutthings,
andisoftentakentoaridiculousextreme,justsotheycantalkshitaboutsomething.
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TiAischerrypickedshitthatreallyreallydoesnotrepresentwhatpeoplearesayingaboutthings
DidyoumissthetantrumsatYaleandDartmouth?
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[] MunchausenByProxy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoesthathavetodowithwhetherornoteveryonewhopoststhereshouldbepreemptively
bannedfromanunrelatedsubreddit?
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apparently/r/offmychestisaplacethat'sconcernedwithbeingprettyPC.Idontnecessarily
agreewiththis,butthat'stheirchoicetodoso.TiAontheotherhand,isaplacethat'slargely
aboutcherrypickingabsurditiesandpostingthemasthoughthey'rethemindsetofthemajority
ofagroupofpeopleandplayingupthe"everythingissodamnPCit'sstupid"line.They'reat
oddswitheachotherinwhattheybelieve.IcannotsayIreallyblameonesubforblockingthe
other'sposters.
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Thethingis,thebasicconceptof/r/offmychestisnomoreinherentlypoliticalthan
/r/birdwatchingoranyothersub.Onlythemodsarereallyconcernedwithkeepingit"PC",
whichiswhatthisthreadisaboutmodspushinganagenda.
Ifyou'reconcernedaboutpeoplegoingdownthelineof"everythingissodamnPC",
blanketbanningofanyoneperceivedasideologicallyimpureisn'texactlygoingtoimprove
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that.Itreeksoffanaticism,andthefactitdoesn'thappentheotherwayaroundshouldbe
prettytelling.
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[] ARC157 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestly,I'veseenmorethanoneinstanceofrealpeoplesayingthingsintotalseriousnessthatcould
havemadethetopofTiA.Ithinkthecherrypickingargumentisacopout,therearealotoffucking
nutcasesoutthere.
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I'mnotsayingtherearentsomerealpeoplewhodosayandbelievesomeofthatshit,buthow
manytimeshaveyouencounteredsomeonewhodidnot,andinsteadheldamuchmore
reasonableandwellinformedview?Sure,there'snutbagsintheworld,butthey'redefinitelynot
themajorityofgroupslikeTiAlikestoclaimtheyare.Plus,TiAregularlypicksandpoststhings
thatareeitherprettyobviouslyjusttrollpostsorjustfakeshitallthetime.
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[] copperstar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep,andthatiswrongbecausewhatusersdoinothersubsisnottheirbusiness.
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Bythatsametoken,whatamoddoestotheirsubisn'tanyofyours.
Don'tlikeit?Createanewone.That'sliterallyhowRedditworks.
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They'reallowedtobehavethisway.They'realsofreetobecriticizedforit.
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Sure.Youcanthinkit'swrongandsayso.Butdon'tactlikeit'saviolationofyourrights.
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Bythatsametoken,whatamoddoestotheirsubisn'tanyofyours.
I'mnotdictatingtothemabouthowtheycanmonitortheirsubwhatrulesandregulationstheywantto
placeontheirsubistheirbusiness,butyou'retellingmetheyarenowallowedtomonitormyactivity
outsideoftheirsub?No.Theydon'thavetherighttodictateoutsideoftheirsub.WhereandwhatI
postandthenattempttoblackmailusersbyforbiddingthemwheretheycanpostbasedontheirown
politicalviews./r/offmychesthasNOTHINGandshouldhaveNOTHINGtodowiththepoliticsof
/r/KiA.
Yeah,there'sareason/r/trueoffmychestexists,butIthinkpeoplearesickandtiredofseeingyou
SJWshijackwhateversubsyoucangetyourhandsoninordertoimposeyouragenda.IfIwasthe
moderatorof/r/christmassongsorsomething,andIcreatedabotthatbannedeveryonewhopostedin
/r/SRSjustbecauseIdisagreewithit,Iwouldbejustaswrong.Idonot,cannotandshouldnotdictate
whatYOUchoosetodooutsideofmysub.Thatisnotwithinamod'sauthority.
IknowyouSJWsaredesperatetocontroleveryfacetofwhatotherpeopledowiththeirlives,but
sorry,youcan't.
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I'mnotdictatingtothemabouthowtheycanmonitortheirsubwhatrulesandregulations
theywanttoplaceontheirsubistheirbusiness,butyou'retellingmetheyarenowallowed
tomonitormyactivityoutsideoftheirsub?
"I'mnotdictatingtothemabouthowtheycanruntheirsub,butI'mgoingtodictatetothem
abouthowtheycanruntheirsub."Freespeech,bro.Icanmakeasubredditwheretheonly
allowedposterismeandtheshadowbannedghostofUnidan.IfIwanttomakeasubreddit
wheretheonlypeoplewhoareallowedtoposthavemorethan15postsmadeonSRS,less
than10postsmadeonKiA,anevennumberofpostsmadeonAskRedditandatleastthree
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questionsansweredonELI5,that'smyfuckingright.
It'smysub,myrules.Don'tlikeit?Gosomewhereelse.
Idonot,cannotandshouldnotdictatewhatYOUchoosetodooutsideofmysub.
True.Buttheyaren'tdoingthat,arethey?YoucanpostinKiA,TiA,SRC,European,allyoulike,
can'tyou?Youjustcan'tpostintheirsub.Whichtheyhavetherightstodo.
IfIwasthemoderatorof/r/christmassongsorsomething,andIcreatedabotthatbanned
everyonewhopostedin/r/SRSjustbecauseIdisagreewithit,Iwouldbejustaswrong.
No,you'dhavetherighttodothat,too.Yoursub,yourrules.ThenIcouldmake
r/truechristmassongsorr/christmassongsuncensoredorwhateverthefuckIwanted,andthe
peoplewhocaredcouldcometomeinstead.
Imean,forfuck'ssake,isitanywonderthemoderatorsofasubreddithelpingpeoplewhoare
rapesurvivorswouldreallyrathernotpeoplebelongingtosubredditsthatregularlymockthe
ideaofrapeshituptheplace?
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"I'mnotdictatingtothemabouthowtheycanruntheirsub,butI'mgoingtodictateto
themabouthowtheycanruntheirsub."Freespeech,bro
Wow,youreallylovetomisconstruepeople'swordsdon'tyou?Yeah,Ican'tdictatewhat
theycandoontheirsub,bytellingthemwhattheycanallowtobepostedontheirsub,but
Icantellthemtheydon'thavetherighttomonitorMYactivity.WhatIchoosetodo
outsideoftheirsubisNONEOFTHEIRBUSINESS.
Freespeechbro
Areyouseriousrightnow?Howinanyway,shapeorformisthatfreedomofspeech?
That'scalledCENSORSHIP!IknowyouSJWsdon'tknowthedifference,butwhatyou
justsaidistheexactoppositeoffreedomofspeech.
It'smysub,myrules.Don'tlikeit?Gosomewhereelse.
IfIcametoyoursubandviolatedtherulesofthesub,thenyeahbanme.
Hey,rememberthatChristiancouplethatdeniedbakingthegaycoupleaweddingcake
becauseoftheirreligiousviews?Yeah,Iguessitonlycountswhenitaffectsyou.
True.Buttheyaren'tdoingthat,arethey?
Sure.Userswhowereshadowbannedaskedwhytheywere.Themodstoldthemthey
hadtoceasepostingtotheothersubs.Soyes,theyaredictatingthatifyouwanttopost
ontheirsubyoucannotgotoanysubtheydon'tlike.That'sprettyshitty.Whatifthemods
of/r/funnybannedyoubecauseyouwereaSJW.Youdon'tthinkthatwouldbebullshit?
Whichtheyhavetherightstodo
Theyaremods,notadmins
Also,THEYDON'THAVETHERIGHTTOMONITORMYACTIVITY!IguessRedditonly
hatesitwhenit'sthegovernmentthatdoesit.
Yoursub,yourrules
Ihavetosayitforlikethe4thtime.Myrulesareformysubonly,andnothingoutsideof
mysub.Peopledogototheothersub.
Also,howdoesmonitoringmyactivitynotviolateReddit'scodeofconduct?Asthatseems
tocountasstalkingauser,whichisabannableoffensebyReddit'sownrules.
mean,forfuck'ssake,isitanywonderthemoderatorsofasubreddithelpingpeople
whoarerapesurvivorswouldreallyrathernotpeoplebelongingtosubredditsthat
regularlymocktheideaofrapeshituptheplace?
It'snotjustforrapesurvivors.Andifpeopleactedlikeassholesthere,thenyeahban
them.Reallyisthatreallywhatyoupeoplethink?Isthatreallyhowyouviewit?Haveyou
everbotheredtoactuallystopandlistentowhattheothersidesaysordoes.Ihaven't
onceseenthemmakefunofrape.Also,they'renotbanningthembecauseofthat,they're
banningthembecausetheyconsideritahatesub.It'snotahatesub.It'samazinghow
SJWsdemonizetheoppositionandnotonce,ever,haveIseenyoupeoplebehonest
whenitcomestothosewhohaveopposingviewpoints.
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whatssobadaboutKIA?orwasitjustanexample?
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[] particle_b undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyoueverbeenthere?I'mnottryingtobeasmartass...buttheyarestilltalkingaboutGamerGatelike
peoplecare.Agreeordisagreewiththeirpolitics,itseemslikeannoyingpeopleyoudon'twanttobe
around.Idon'tknow...that'sthevibeIgetanyway.
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[] OnionNo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/KotakuInActioniswhatIthinkhemeant.
That'sbasicallytheGamerGatesubreddit.Lotofdiscussionsinthenameoffreespeech,particularlywithin
thegamingindustry.Mostofthecontentitselfcanbeviewedasattacksonpeople,particularlyfeminists.
Sopostinginthatsubreddit,andafewotherslike/r/TumblrInAction(subredditdedicatedtoabsurdtumblr
content),willgetyouautobannedinafewothersubredditslikeoffmychest.
Fromapersonalopinion,Iviewalotofthesesubredditsasonesthathadgoodideastostandonfortheir
inception,buthavebecomebreedinggroundsforoutrageculture.
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Sopostinginthatsubreddit,andafewotherslike/r/TumblrInAction(subredditdedicatedtoabsurd
tumblrcontent),willgetyouautobannedinafewothersubredditslikeoffmychest.
Theredoesseemtobeadropoffafteracertainpointwhereeitherthebotcan'tdetectitordoesn't
care.
IusedtovisitTiAshortlyafteritwasstarted,butIstoppedoveritgotalittletoo"FEMINISMIS
STUPID"forme.Itestedthebanningthingonomcacouplemonthsagoanditdidn'tbanme,soI
guessyouhavetohavepostedonitsemirecentlyforittowork.
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[] dei2anged undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"inthenameoffreespeech"lol,right.
Mahfreedoms!
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[] Gary_FucKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idefinitelyagreewiththelastsentence,Iunsubbedfromr/TiAbecauseitbecametoomuchabout
bashingfeministsingeneralinsteadofjustcrazytumblrpeople.
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/r/TiAwastakenoverbytheSJWsandtheystartedbanningpeoplethatmentionthe
replacementsubthatdoeswhattumblrinactionusedtodo.Idon'tfollowanyofthatsoIdon't
recallthereplacementsub'sname,butI'veseenthemodsinactionbanningusersthatmention
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Wow.That'spathetic.Whatisthementalityofjustsilencingthingsyoudon'tagreewithwhenthe
stakesaresolow.Igetitatagovernmentlevelbutjustsomeshittysubonawebsitethatdoesn't
evenpayyou?Peoplearestupidasshit.
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[] drhuge12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisthementalityofjustsilencingthingsyoudon'tagreewithwhenthestakesareso
low.Igetitatagovernmentlevelbutjustsomeshittysubonawebsitethatdoesn'teven
payyou
that'spreciselyit.whowantstomoderateabunchofflamewars?
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[] wasniahC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saninterestingone.Iwoulddisagreethatmostofthecontentitselfcanbeviewedasattackson
people,butIwouldsaythatthere'scertainlyaperceptionofthatamong"opposition".
Iwillagreethatthereisanoutrageculturefeeltoitsometimeswhichissomewherebetweenfunny
anddisappointingtome,sinceoutragecultureissomethingthesubredditisgenerallyagainst.
Youcanfeelfromthetoneofcommentssometimesthatalotofpeoplecommenttherewhouse
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tumblralot,ifthatmakesanysense.
I'lladdtothisandsaythatothersubredditsautobanningpeoplewhojustpostthereisanissuetome.
SomeonecouldpostonKIAagainstwhatpeoplearesayingthereandgetbanned.Andevenifthey
areforit,sowhat?There'snogoodjustificationfordoingit,honestly.Iftheyareproblempeopleon
yoursubreddit,banthemforthat,don'tbanthemforassociatingwithpeopleyoudon'tlike.
Ithinkatsomepoint/r/rape,asubredditforrapevictimswantingsupport,wasbanningpeoplewho
wereon/r/kia..becauseapparentlypeoplewhovaluefreespeech,ethicsinjournalismetc,anddon't
likebeingtold"youdon'treallycareaboutethicsinjournalism,youjusthatewomen"meansthatyou
aren'tallowedtoseeksupportforrape.
afaik/r/rapeisn'tdoingthatanymorethough,andhonestlyIthinkthatwasblownoutofproportiona
lot.Outrageculture,asyousay.Afterall,isitseriouslyimportantthatrapevictimsgetsupportfrom
reddit?Isthisthefirstplaceweexpectthemtoturn?Doesthatsubreddithavesomesortofobligation
toredditors?Eh.
Ihavemixedfeelingsaboutkia,butIsureashelldon'thavemixedfeelingsaboutitsoppositionand
theshittheydo.
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[] neoballoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhichofthesepostscurrentlyonthefrontpageofKiAisaboutfreespeechor"ethicsin
journalism"?They'revirtuallyallcomplainingaboutfeminism.
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Yeah,Ihavehadaaverysimilarexperiencewithtumblrinacton.Itusedtobemyfavoritesub,
thenitslowlybecameaboutoutageoverthefeministagenda.Istillgotherebecauseoftenthe
toppostsarestillenjoyable,butalmosteverytimeIdipintothecommentsIendupdefending
theposttosinceextentandgettingdownvotedtohell.It'sabsurdthatI'mbannedfromoffmy
chest,notthatIcareorwanttogototodaysub,butit'sstilldumb.
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/r/offmychesthasalotofshitty,"PC",mods.KiAandTiAgenerallymakefunofpeoplewhoarePCtoa
fault,andthatdescribesmostofTumblrand/r/offmychestmods.
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DescribesatinyportionofTumblr
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[] belethors_sister undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iheardthatfromsomanypeople(bothonhereandirl)andIstillranintocrazyoverlyPCand
SJWstuffdespitefollowingtagsthathadnothingtodowithit.
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[] inevitabled34th undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknowwhatyoumean.IrecentlystartedTumblraboutaweekandahalfago,andIonlyfollow
thestuffIlike.Ihaven'tevencomeacrossasinglethingSJWrelatedyet.
AndfortherecordIpostpicturesofcatsandkittens.
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Likeacrossbetweentwitterandreddit?
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Notfallingforyourruse,SJW
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Ithinkitdid.ThisaccountisnewandIdon'thave/r/europesubbed.
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AFAIKit'sadefaultonlyforeuropeanusers.
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[] mendopnhc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeahabunchgotaddedtoregional,noweveryonewhosignsupfromnewzealandautomaticallygets
subbedtor/newzealand,fuckingsuckshonestlygetabunchofnoobspostingshittymemesandshit.
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[] AalewisX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neat
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Nice
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Noyce
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Oh.
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[] president_of_derp 72points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idontknowabouttherestof9/11butWTC7wasastrangeoccurance.Istillhaven'theardagoodexplanation.
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Thisisareallytoughone,becauseyouhavearchitectsandengineersonbothsides.
Somesayitcouldhappensomesayitcouldn'thavehappen.
Idon'treallyknowwhotobelieve.
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I'mnogoodatmaterialsciencesormetallurgybutIknowchronology.HowdidmultiplenewsourcesreportthecollapseofWTC726
minutesbeforeitactuallyhappened?
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Whythefuckwouldaconspiracytellthepressaboutwhatwasgoingtohappenbeforetheydidit?Iftheywerecompetent
enoughtokeeptheplansecretforsolongtheywouldhavebeencompetentenoughtonotphonethepressearly.
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[] burningempires undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becauseitwassobadlydamagedthatit'scollapsewasentirelyplausible.
TheBBClookedintotheirownreportindetailanddiscovereditwastheresultofthemmisreportingtheirowncorrespondent,
anditthensnowballedfromthere.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html
4.27pm,aBBCreporter,GregBarrow,whoisinNewYork,appearsonourradionewschannel,BBCRadioFiveLive,and
says:"Wearehearingreportsfromlocalmediathatanotherbuildingmayhavecaughtlightandisindangerofcollapse."
Hethenrespondstoafollowupquestionbysaying"I'mnotsureifithasyetcollapsedbutthereportwehaveistalking
aboutBuilding7."
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At4.53pm,onthesameradiostation,theprogramme'spresenter,FiGloversays"25minutesagowehadreportsfrom
GregBarrowthatanotherlargebuildinghascollapsedjustoveranhourago."
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Whichsideofthedebatehasmorearchitectsandengineersinit?Hint:it'snottheconspiracytheorists.
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Quantitydoesn'tequalquality.
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Howdoyoufeelabout,say,vaccinesorclimatechange?
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Vaccinesaregood.Climatechangeisaseriousissue.
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Howdoyoufeelabout,say,vaccinesorclimatechange?
Youfellforhisrhetoricattackonyourcharacter.
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Thatsokay.Ididn'tgivehimtheanswershewaslookingforanyway.
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Youthinkthatmeansyouwon?
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Hardlyajabatcharacter,justargumentfromanalogyIthink
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Sowouldyousaythatyouagreewiththemajorityofexpertsonthoseissues?Doyouagreewiththe
majorityofexpertson9/11?
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ItwouldbeabithypocriticalofmetosaythatvaccinesarebadwhenIhavehadallmyvaccineswith
noilleffects.
Asforclimatechange.Thereisalotofevidencetoproveitsreal.
Whenitcomesto9/11thereisalotonbothsidesandalotofitiscompelling.I'vereadalotof
reports.Eventhereportsthatthecommissionreleased.I'vealsoreadalotfrom'conspiracytheorists'
orwhateveryouwanttocallthem.
Neitherofthemhasswayedmyopiniononewayortheother.Thereisalotofgoodevidenceonboth
sides.
SoIdon'tknowwhatIbelievewhenitcomesto9/11andtruthbetoldIreallydon'tcarethatmuch.Its
notsomethingthatkeepsmeupatnight.
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Soyoufollowtheexpertsonsomethingsandnotothers?
Thereisn'tevenacoherent,agreedonconspiracytheoryfor9/11,there'sallkindsofversions
howisthatacompellingalternativetothecoherentmainstreamexplanation?
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[] H_C_Sunshine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemosttellingthingishowtheBushadministrationresistedandthendelayedhavinganimpartialinvestigationofthematter.
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Andthepromptdisposalofalltheevidenceisconvenientundertheauspicesofhealingwounds.
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Andthelackofsecurityofthepresidentintheschoolwhentheattackswereconfirmedtobeterroriststrikes.
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Yeah.Shouldn'tthesecretservicehavewhiskedBushofftoasaferplaceimmediatelywhentheyheard?Evenifhe
saidhewantedtofinishreadingtheHappyGoat,theywouldbedoingaprettyshittyjobiftheysaid'ohyeahsure'and
thensuddenlyaterroristhadblownuptheclassroom.
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Don'tforgethealsoshookeverykids'hands,andgavethemeachtheirownspecialcandytreat,accordingtothe
testimonyofakidthere(healsodidaredditAMA).Ifnothingelse,thisisacriminaloffensebythebodyguards
andtheyshould'vebeenfired.Butsomethingtellsmeit'smuchmorethanthat.
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Holdupiftherewasaconspiracyitwouldhavebeentrivialforthemtoensurethepresidentwasquickly
protectedtokeepupappearances,right?Whywouldconspiratorsletthepresidentjusthangoutatthe
schoolafterhewastold?Doesn'tmakeanysense.
TheSecretServicehasbeenhavingproblems,theyaren'tinfallible.Youmightaswellclaimthattheattacks
inFrancewereaconspiracybecauseHollandedidn'timmediatelygotoasecurebunkerandstaythere.
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[] fastrmastrblastr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyoutriedtofindagoodexplanation?Becausethereisone.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
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Ittookthemalittlewhiletocomeupwithanexcusewhytheyshoulddiscreditthiscompletelyindependentanalysis,butshortlyafter
thisarticlecameoutallthetinfoilscanmeupwithsomeideathatpopularmechanicsissomesortofpuppetpublisherforsome
illuminatilittleorganization.
ThenPurdueUniversitycameupwiththetheirownconspiracydebunking.I'mnotsurehowthetinfoilsdiscreditedthatonebutI'm
suretheydid.
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ThisarticleregurgitatesNIST'sbadmath.NISTwasnotandisnotqualifiedtohaveanopiniononthissciencebuttheycouldbe
madetoproduceadesiredresult.AlsorememberthatNISTisthesamegroupofcowardswhowerepaid$10Mtopromotethe
worsttypeofECCsothattheNSA(providersofsaidsumofmoney)couldmosteasilycrackthecrypto.
ThefindingsofNISTdonotstanduptoscrutiny.ThisPOPMech.articleissimilarlypoisonedasaresult.
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Itwasobviouslyallaninsidejob,jesuschristhowmanymorecoincidencesdopeopleneed.
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[] tastycakezzz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItcaughtonfirefromdebrisfallingfromWTC1and2.Thefirewasallowedtoburnuncontrolledbecausethesprinklersystemhadtobe
manuallyengaged(everyonehadevacuatedlongbefore)andfirefighterswerebusyfightingfiresinthetwoskyscrapersnextdoorthat
hadbeenrecentlyhitbyjumbojets.
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EverytimeWTC7comesupsomemoronsays"noskyscraperbeforeorsincehasevercollapseduetofire."Great.Thanks.No
skyscraperbeforeorsincehasevercaughtonfireandbeencompletelyignoredbecausethereweresuchlargerprioritiesnearby.
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[] big_face_killah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenextremefiresandfallingdebriscan'texplainhowWTC7fell.Itwasexplosives.
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[] PhrygianMode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItcaughtonfirefromdebrisfallingfromWTC1and2
Actually,thatisn'taprovenfact.Notaccordingtotheofficialstory.Itissimplyatheoryandshouldalwaysbereferredtoassuch.
SincefireswereobservedonthegroundsurroundingWTC7,itispossiblethatpotentialignitionsourcesmighthaveentered
WTC7throughopeningscreatedinthesouthandwestfaceofthebuildingduringthecollapsesofthetowers.NISTfoundno
evidencetoconfirmthispossibility,buttheavailabledatasuggestthatthiswashighlylikely.NISTNCSTAR19,page194
Thefirewasallowedtoburnuncontrolledbecausethesprinklersystemhadtobemanuallyengaged
Again,theofficialstorystates:
"ThecitywatermainhadbeencutbythecollapseofthetwoWTCTowers,sothesprinklersinBuilding7didnotfunctionformuch
ofthebottomhalfofthebuilding.Nevertheless,othertallofficebuildingshaveburnedforaslongorlongerinsimilarfires
withoutcollapsingwhensprinklerseitherdidnotexistorwerenotfunctional."NIST(ShyamSunder)
andfirefighterswerebusyfightingfiresinthetwoskyscrapersnextdoorthathadbeenrecentlyhitbyjumbojets.
Again,theofficialstorystates:
"BythetimeWTC7collapsed,thefiresinWTC7hadadvancedwellbeyondthelikelypointsoforiginonmultiplefloors(i.e.,south
andwestfaces),andpointsoffireoriginhadnobearingonthefireconditionswhenthebuildingcollapsed(i.e.,inthenortheast
quadrant).Additionally,ineachoftheotherreferencedbuildings,thefiresburnedoutseveralfloors,evenwithavailablewaterand
firefightingactivities(exceptforWTC5).Thus,whetherthefirefightersfoughttheWTC7firesornotisnotameaningful
pointofdissimilarityfromtheothercitedfires."
Noskyscraperbeforeorsincehasevercaughtonfireandbeencompletelyignoredbecausethereweresuchlargerpriorities
nearby.
TheOfficialStorydisagrees.
Therealquestionis,howdoweaccountfortheextremeVOCspikesmeasuredatGroundZero.TheOfficialStorycombustion
cannotaccomplishthetask
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs1066900891824
"Theoccurrenceofsuchextreme,sharpspikesinVOCsinairatGZindicatesomethingotherthanthebehaviorofatypical
structurefire.Oxygeninfluxasaresultofshiftingofmaterialswithinthepilemighthavecreatedanincreaseincombustionof
materialinlocalizedareas.ButthesespikesinVOCs,atlevelsthousandsoftimeshigherthanseeninotherstructurefires,
suggestextremelyviolentbutshortlivedfireevents.Probablythemoststrikingspikeintoxicairemissions,foundinEPA
monitoringdata,occurredon9thFebruary,2002.Note(Table1)thatthiswasnearly5monthsafter9/11,andafternearlyall
thedebrishadbeenclearedfromGZ.Infact,thelevelsofsomespecies,liketolueneandstyrene,weresomeofthehighest
observedatthesite.Butthelevelsofbenzeneandpropylenedetectedonthatdaywerefarabovepreviousmeasurements,at
610,000and990,000ppb,respectively.OtherVOCsweremeasuredattheirpeaklevelsonthisdate,including1,3butadieneat
400,000ppb.""EPAalsomonitoredveryfineparticulatematter(PM)andothersizesofPM.PMisprobablythemostreliable
indicatorfortheactivityofstructurefires,assuchfiresaregenerallyknowntoburnincompletely,andproducePMthatdriftsup
andoutwardfromthesource.EPAdatafromtheWestBroadwaysamplingsite,thelocationclosesttoGZwherePMwas
monitored,showthefollowingtrendinveryfinePM(PM2.5,orallparticles\2.5lm)inOctoberandNovember2001(Fig.4).
ThesedatashowthatthepeaksinlevelsofveryfinePMnearGZcorrespondtodifferentdatesthanthepeaksforthepreviously
discussedcombustionproducts.ThefivestrongestpeaksinPM2.5levelsarecenteredon23th,26thSeptember,and3rd,
10th,20thOctober,closerintimetotheeventsof9/11.NoneofthesedatescorrespondtothedatesoffivepeaksinVOCs
notedabove.Additionally,itisclearthatthelevelsofPM2.5emissionsrosemoregradually,anddieddownmoregradually,
indicatingslowerfiredynamicsasmightbeexpectedfromtheburningoftheorganicmaterialspreviouslythoughttoexistinthe
WTC.Thesedatasuggestthatthegreatestleveloffireactivity,associatedsolelywiththetypicalfuelsourcesexpectedinthe
WTC,wascompletedbythethirdweekofOctober.Thatis,thematerialsexpectedtoburn(incompletely)inastructurefire,
producingPM,werelargelyburnedoffbymidtolateOctober.Therefore,theextremespikesinairconcentrationsofthefive
VOCsnotedabove,particularlyon3rd,8thNovember,and9thFebruary,pointnottoothersourcesoftypicalcombustible
materialsbuttootherformsofcombustion.Suchformsofcombustionappeartobeviolentandshortlived,andthussimilarto
theeffectsofenergeticmaterials,likethermite"
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ItcaughtonfirefromdebrisfallingfromWTC1and2
Actually,thatisn'taprovenfact.
Yagottalovecognitivedissonance.
1. WTC7wasstruckbydebrisfromtower1fallingnexttoit.
2. Ittorea15storyholeinthesideofthebuilding.
3. Shortlyafterthetowercollapsed,fireandsmokecouldbeseenpouringoutofWTC7.
4. DuetothedestructionofWTC1,thefiresuppressionsystemforWTC7wasdestroyed.
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5. WTC7burnedoutofcontrol,withoutanyfiresuppressionfor7hours.
PleasecorrectmeifanythingIjustsaidisfactuallyincorrect.
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Itissimplyatheoryandshouldalwaysbereferredtoassuch.
Nothingyou'vesaidhaschangedthis.Pleasecorrectmeifthissentenceisfactuallyincorrect.
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[] GreasyAssMechanic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdoknowhowhotanofficefirewouldget,right?
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[] matagad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverytimeWTC7comesupsomemoronsays
andhereyouare,tryingtoexplainwhybuildningwentdownwithoutanyresistance...
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[] FappingFantastic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovemeagoodbuildning.
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[] griseldablanco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sheep
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Areyoudenyingthattherehavebeenskyscraperfiresthathaveburnedhotterandlonger?Besides,evenifthebuildingwas
barragedwithflamingcannonballs,thatwouldn'texplainthetotaldisregardforthelawsofphysicsit'scollapseexhibited.
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Notallskyscrapersarebuiltusingthesametechniques.
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And?Doesn'tgiveitanexcuseforLoonyTunephysics.WTC7wasanasymmetricaldesignwithdifferentcolumnson
manydifferentfloors,yetit'scollapsewascompletelysymmetrical.Ifitcollapsednormally,therewouldn'tbesomuch
speculation.
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Whywouldyouexpectasignificantlyasymmetricalcollapse?Theloadsonaskyscraperarealmostallstraight
down,afterall.Itwouldn'tmakesenseforthebuildingtotipover,wouldit?
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Everycollapseeverinhistoryhasbeenasymmetrical.ThedesignofWTC7wasasymmetrical.Thekindof
asymmetricaldamagefromfireshouldhavecausedanasymmetricalcollapse(ifitshouldhavecollapsedat
all).Theperimeterfellattherateofgravityfor2.25secondsandthenstillmaintainedaconstantdownward
acceleration.Wherearethelawsofphysicswhenyouneedthem?
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Whatdoyoumeanbyasymmetrical?Nomatterwhattheshapeoftheperimeterofthebuilding,
almostalltheforceonthatbuildingispullingstraightdown.
Thelawsofphysicsaresayingthatoncesomethinghasstartedtocollapsethesupportsbelowit
aren'tgoingtobeabletoholdit.Pickuptheheaviestweightyoucan,thentrytoimaginecatchingthat
weightasitisfalling(don'tactuallydothis,fyi).
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Iffiredamagecompromisesoneorafewcolumnsinthelowerfloorsofabuilding,thatwould
leadtoanasymmetricalcollapse.
Thelawsofphysicsaresayingthatoncesomethinghasstartedtocollapsethesupports
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belowitaren'tgoingtobeabletoholdit.
PleasesearchYoutubefor"faileddemolitions".
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[] JayGold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Burningdebrisfallingfromover1,000feetintheaircanbeprettydestructive.
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Wehavebeenbuildingsteelframedhighrisesforoveracentury.Inallthattimemanyhavereceiveddamage,caughtfire,even
hadsomeairplanescrashintothem.Inthewholeofsteelframedhighrisehistoryexactlythreehavecollapsed.Allthreewereon
9/11.ThefirsttwowecangobackandforthonbutWTC7hasnoplausibleexplanationthatdoesnotincludetheuseoftheword
"Thermite".
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Andhowmanycasesofhighrisebuildingsdemolishedwiththermitehavetherebeen?
Thatwouldbenoneatall.Ever.Sothathasevenlessprecedent.
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Howmanybuildingsweredemolishedwithwreckingballsbeforewreckingballswereused?None.Howmanybuildings
weredemolishedbycablesbeforecableswereused?None.Howmanybuildingsweredemolishedbyexplosives
beforeexplosiveswereused?Youguessedit,none.Thermite,especiallythermate,iseasilycapableofcuttingthrough
steelcomponents,andhaspubliclydemonstratedsucheversinceitsinvention.Theargumentthatthermitebeinga
virginbuildingdemolitionagentisnotsturdy,andbeforewegetintoadebate,shouldyoudecidetogothere,I
recommendyounotusethiskindoffaultylogicasyourbase.
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Irecommendyounotusethiskindoffaultylogicasyourbase.
Lol.Saysthepersonwhomadethefaultyappealtolackofprecedent...
ButI'llbite.Howmanybuildingswerebroughtdownwithwreckingballsinthe14yearsaftertheystarteddoingit?
Iguaranteeyou,theanswerisnotzero.
Andyet,inthe14yearssince9/11,therehasstillnotbeenasingleothercase,civilianormilitary,ofthermite
beingusedtodemolishabuilding.Givenwhataremarkablygoodjobitdidon9/11especiallysincenobuilding
theheightevenofWTC7haseverbeenexplosivelydemolished,tothisdaywhyisthat?
Faceit,sayingthermite,makesasmuchsenseassayingtheToothFairybroughtthebuildingsdown.
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sayingthermitebroughtdowntheTwinTowersislikesayingthetoothfairybroughtthemdown
YouseemtobeundertheimpressionthatIassumethatashittonofthermitewasignitedthatday.I,like
everyotherarchitectandengineeratae911truthhavereadtheRJLeeGroupreportoftheiron
microspheresfoundintheWTCdustand,lookingatthechemicalanalysis,directlypointtoonesource
thermite.TherearemultiplereasonswhyIagreewiththem,andI'venotseenasinglepersonwhoactually
readthe"ExtremelyHighTemperaturesattheWTCEvent"reportandconcludedtheironmicrospheres
foundintheWTCdustwerenotcreatedbythermite.Why?Becausetheironmicrospheresproducedfrom
thermiteneitherhavethesamechemicalcomposition,shapeordensityofthoseproducedbycombustion
reactions,suchaswithsteelwool.Don'targuewithmearguewithourcurrentunderstandingofchemistry.
ReadtheRJLeeGroupreportandtheExtremelyHighTemperaturesattheWTCEventreport,ofmerely
skimthroughthem,andyou'llseewhatImean.
Regardingyourotherstatements,I'vementionedinanothercomment(whichshouldbealittlebitbelowthis
one)whythermiteisn'tusedcommerciallynowadays.ButI'llgiveyoutwomorereasonsrighthereright
now:
Thermitedoesn'tfairsowellwhenputupagainststeelmixedwithalotofMolybdenum(whichishowsteel
istoday).TheTwinTowersandbuilding7didn'thavemuchMolybdenumintheirsteel,sothermitedida
spectacularjob.
Thegovernmentwouldneversubsidizethermitedemolitions,becauseanybuildingdemolishedwith
thermitemakes9/11moresuspicious.
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Don'targuewithmearguewithourcurrentunderstandingofchemistry.ReadtheRJLeeGroup
reportandtheExtremelyHighTemperaturesattheWTCEventreport,ofmerelyskimthrough
them,andyou'llseewhatImean.
I'lljustleavethishere:
https://www.metabunk.org/debunkedironmicrospheresin911wtcdustasevidencefor
thermite.t2523/
Plentyofcounterargumentstobefound,alsodisprovingyourclaimthat"I'venotseenasingleperson
who...concludedtheironmicrospheresfoundintheWTCdustwerenotcreatedbythermite."Seethis
one,forexample:
https://www.metabunk.org/debunkedironmicrospheresin911wtcdustasevidencefor
thermite.t2523/page2#post70703
whichpointsoutthereportsaysthatironrichspheres"wouldbeexpectedtobepresentinWTC
Dust."It'sfarfromasconclusiveasyouseemtothink.
YouhaveyettoaddresstheissuethatNObuildingthesizeofWTC7,nevermind1+2,hasEVER
beenexplosivelydemolished.Ireadyourothercomment,andtheclaimthat,"Alltheyneededwasa
dinkylittle5storeybuilding,"issononsensical,it'snotevenworthaddressing,besideshaving
absolutelyzeroevidencetosupportit.Andyoualsohavetoexplainwhythisbrilliant,foolproofnew
demolitionstechniquehasneverbeenusedagainsince.
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"I'lljustleavethishere"
AndI'lljustleavethishere:http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2014/04/steelwoolironspheres
debunkedagain.html?m=1
Thisisadirectrebuttaltotheclaimsmadebyyourmetabunklink.I'vereadboth,andbeforeI
hadmadeupmymindabout9/11,theDebunkingtheDebunkerslinkprovedmorevalidtome.
Yes,buildingstallerthanWTC7havebeendemolished.AllittookwasaquickGooglesearch.
JustbecausenothingtallerthanWTC1and2hasbeendemolishedbefore,doesn'tmeanWTC
1and2couldnothavebeencontrolleddemolitions.LikeIsaidearlier:there'safirstfor
everything.
Itappearsasthoughyoudon'tunderstandtheconceptofa"model".I'llleavethisonealonefor
now,it'strivialenoughandyouseemsodamnedconvincedthatyouneeda1:1scalereplicaof
theTwinsbeingdemolishedtoconfirmthatthermitewastestedbefore9/11.
Besidesthe5otherreasonsIhavepresentedpreviouslytoyou,there'salsothefactthatthe
Japanesecompanythatholdsthepatentfornanothermiteisoutofbusiness.
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Ifit'ssoobvious,whyareyousuchafringegroup?It'sclearlynotobvioustomostpeoplewhostudy
9/11
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It'sclearlynotobvioustomostpeoplewhostudy9/11
Fewpeoplestudy9/11,andtheoneswhoweresomewhatcuriousagreedthatBushatthevery
leastlettheattackshappened.Youaretheminorityhere.AccordingtoaCNNpoll,89%of
peoplebelievetherewassomekindofcoverupin9/11.
Also,youseemtoimplyyouareanarchitectorengineer.Areyouone?
Icertainlyamnot.IfyouwanttotalktosomeonewhoIsuspectisanarchitect/engineer,yellfor
/u/Akayeron.
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Ifthermitecanbeusedtodemolishbuildingsthenwhyhasn'tanyoneusedittodemolishbuildings?Itcan'tbe
veryexpensive,right?
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Whyusethermitewhenyoucanuseexplosives?C4isprobablycheaperthanthermiteinmanyways.One,
thermiteisabitmorecomplicatedthanthetraditionalincendiary.C4isjuststrapandgo,thermiterequires
devicestoconcentrateitspower.Contractswiththermitewouldcertainlycostmorebecausedemolition
companieswouldneedmoretimetogetusedtoit.NottomentionDemolitionswouldsimplybelessfun.
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Thatmeanslessrevenue,lesspeoplegoingouttowatchyourdemolition,whichmeansless
advertising/customerapproval.Whichwouldyourathersee:abigexplosiontakedownabuilding,orthe
buildingjustquietlydissolvingintothemoonlight?
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Soyouthinkabuildingdemolitionbythermitewouldlookdifferentthanthetypicalcontrolled
demolition?Sosayingthatvideoof9/11lookstoomuchlikecontrolleddemolitionsisactuallyin
conflictwithyourtheory?
Also,doyouexpectmetobelievethattheseconspiratorstrustedaneverbeforetriedmethodof
demolishingbuildings?Surelythey'dwantsomethingthatactuallyhasbeentested.
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Ithinkwhatyou'vedonehereistakenmywordthatthermiteislessflashyandshowythan
generalexplosives,turneditintomesayingthatademolitionusingthermitedoesnotlooklikea
demolitionusingexplosives,thenappliedthattothecommonargumentthatthecollapseof
WTC7,whichmostlylikelyusedthermite,lookedlikeacontrolleddemolition.Thisishorribly
inaccurate.TheideathatthecollapseofWTC7lookedsimilartoacontrolleddemolitionstems
fromthesymmetricalnatureofitscollapse,anditsdescentatfreefall.Ithasnothingtodowith
theexplosions.
Andreferringtothelatterpartofyourargument,whoistosaythattheynevertesteditbefore?
Weknowoffewdemolitionteststhathavebeendoneusingthermitewhichhavebeenpublicly
revealed.Butweknowhowmuchthegovernmentlovestheirprivatetesting.
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Toonespotofoneveryspecificbuilding....InNewYork,whichisliterallyfullofbuildings.Okaythen.
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KeepinmindWTC7was350feetaway,so"falling"wouldn'tbetherightwordtouse.Multitonpiecesofdebris(mostlysteel
beamssinceeverythingelseinthebuildingwaspulverized)ejectedlaterallyfromthatfardidhappenandisvisibleonvideosofthe
collapses,butI'mprettysurewhatcausedthelargerdamageonthesouthfacewasactuallypartsoffloorscollapsing.NIST's
(authoritativeyetthoroughlydebunked)theoryacknowledgesthatthedamagefromtheejecteddebriswouldn'thavecontributedto
thecollapseandthatitwascausedbynormalofficefires(notfromthefueltankinthebasement).
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350ftlateralmovementfromexplosions1kftintheairishardlyunlikely...
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explosions
:)
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Yes,becausewhenaplanefullofjetfuelcrashesintoabuilding,itnormallyjustcausesasmallcampfiresuitable
formakings'mores.Certainlynotafireball.
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ThisisaboutthelaterallyejectedmultitonsteelbeamsspearingthroughBuilding7(aswellasother
buildings).
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what?initialimpact+jetfuelignition+collateraldamagefrominitialblasts?uforreal?
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ThelaterallyejectedmultitonsteelbeamshappenedduringthesocalledgravitationalcollapseofbothTwin
Towers.
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Doyouhaveanyideajusthowmuchgravitationalpotentialenergywasreleased?Dropacarfrom
1000feetintheairandIguaranteeyouitwillthrowbitsofcareverywherewhenithitstheground.
Nowmultiplythatbyhowevermuchthetopofaskyscraperweighs.
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There'snoexperimentalevidenceforthecollapseofabuildingdoingthat.Ican'tjustusemy
imaginationtoexplainthekindofforceinvolvedinthrowingsomethingthatmassivesofar.
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thingsbreakwhentheybuckle?
istraightupdon'tgetthis.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYCuAa0eFKg
Seehowsomeofthesteelbeamsareejectedlikecannonballs,whilemostofitfellwithinthe
footprintoftheTowers?Idon'tunderstandhowanykindofmechanismcanmakesuchheavy
buildingpartsdothat.
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that'swhatbucklingismyfriend.youcanreplicatethiswithfuckingjengaandacherry
bomb
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[] WSWFarm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probablymostbuildingsyou'veseencollapsehavebeencontrolleddemolitions,sowhenyouseeabuildingcollapsefromanother
causewhatitmostresemblesisacontrolleddemolition.Maybethat'sjustwhatittendstolooklikewhenbuildingscollapse,they'rebuilt
thesamewayandsocatastrophicallyfailinthesameway.
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[] griseldablanco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sheep
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Canyougivemeanexampleofasteelskyscrapercollapsingbyfirethatlooksexactlylikeacontrolleddemolition?
That'satrickquestionbecausenormalofficefireshavenevercompromisedasinglecolumninanysteelhighrisebefore9/11.
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[] DeeCeee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nordonormalofficefiresincludetonsofjetfuelburning.
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IwastalkingaboutWTC7.Also,expertsonbothsidesoftheargumentagreethatallofthejetfuelcould'veburnedoff
withinabout20minutes(abouthalfofitburnedoffintheinitialfireball).EvenifiwasreferringtoWTC1and2,no
amountofjetfuelexplainstheactualcollapses.
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[] ghubert3192 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butitwasn'tanormalofficefire?Like,itwasasfarfromanormalofficefireasanythinghaseverbeen.Anairplaneslammed
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intotheoffice.Ifthat'sanormalofficefirethensure,youhaveapoint.
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WTC7.NISThasconcludedthatthecauseofWTC7'scollapsewasduetonormalofficefire(althoughtheircomputer
modelsdon'tshowthecollapselookinganythingsimilartothevideos).Thestructuraldamagefromfallingdebris+
basementfuelfoiltanktheorywasfoundtonotbeamajorcontributingfactoraccordingtoNIST.
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[] Dr_Acula1213 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sashamethatanyonewhoquestionstheofficial9/11storyislabelledasacrazyconspiracytheorist.Anyonewhoevaluates
alltheevidenceshouldhaveatleastalittledoubt.
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Anygoodpropagandaincludescallinginfidelscrazy.
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[] Leitirmgurl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,anyonewhoexaminesallevidencewillhavenodoubtitwastheplanesthatdidit.
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[] disposable182 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreetodisagree.
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[] thechariot83 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
False.
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[] Audie_Murphy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptfortheseguys,ofcourse:http://www.ae911truth.org/
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Youactliketherearen'tarchitectsandengineerswhoopposethe9/11conspiracytheorists.Theconsensus
isthattheofficialreportsarecorrect.It'slikepro/antivaccinedoctorslevelsoflopsidednessfavoringthe
officialreports
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[] WeirdF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisguyistheirleader.Youreallywannatrusttheseguysasan"importantsourceforinformeddebate"?
I'mnotgoingtotrustanyone'sopinioniftheyaregettingbasicscientificfactswrong,engineeringdegreeor
not.
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Justsaying,thatguydoeslooklikeanaveragearchitect/engineer
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[] Audie_Murphy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifinditironic,butnotsurprising,thatthis10secondvideoistheoneyouchosetoexpressyour
viewpoint.Thereareliterallyhundredsofhoursoftestimonyandinterviewsfromengineersaffiliated
fromthisgroupofanacademicnature,ifyourintentistofindintelligentdiscourse.However,basedon
yourchoiceofa10secondkindergartenlevelselectiontorebutmycomment,itdoesn'tseemthatyou
havemuchinterest.
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[] WeirdF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhIwasn'ttryingtohaveaseriousdiscussion,Ireallydon'tseethepointbecauseIknow
neitherofusaregoingtobeabletoconvincetheotherofourrespectiveviewpointsonthe
matter.
Ifyouwantthough,here'ssomerealreasonsthatAR911truthisfullofshit.
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[] DenebVegaAltair 1316points
Women'sclothingoftendoesn'thavepocketssotheyareforcedtobuypursesinordertostorethings.
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Buttherearen'tmanycompaniesthatmakepursesandjeans,andwhywouldacompanythatmakesonlyjeansandnotpursesdo
this?
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Orrrrsinceit'sprettyestablishedthatwomencarrypursesanyway,pocketsareunnecessarysotheydon'tgetincluded.Idoubtmost
womenbuythesamebrandofpurseastheydotherestoftheiroutfitssoitwouldn'treallyhelpaclothingmanufacturermuchtotryto
forcetheuseofapurse.
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[] eLyUKayEe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatmakesWAYtoomuchsense.
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[] Camaxtli undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mywifesaysshejustlikestocarryaroundatonofshit.
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[] unoriginalsin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pocketsarejustsmallerversionsofpocques,whicharereallyjustpursestobeginwith.Menhavejustmadetheirpursessmallerand
sewnthemontotheirclothing,whereaswomenhavemadethemlargerandkeptthemseparatesoastoincreasethepotentialvariety
oftheirwardrobe.
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[] hellostarsailor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goesbacktowomennotbeingallowedtoownpropertybackinthedayandyes,you'reright.
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[] rae0028 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,touselessfabricinordertoshowoffourbodiesmore.
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[] derek589111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pocketsaresownshutdeliberately.Youcancutthethreadsandyouhaveafullpocket.Thisistrueformenandwomen'sapparel.
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Hasbeendisproven
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Ortocausethemtodroptheirphonessincetheyusuallygoforglamourcasesinsteadofsurvivalcases.
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Occam'sRazor.
Fashion,clothingandtextileindustriesaresomeofthemostcutthroat,competitiveindustriestheyare.
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Thereisnowayallthemmanufacturerscouldagreeonanythingletalonesomethingsocomplex.LikeinGameTheory,afewsmall
timeclothesmanufacturerswouldnotparticipateandcapitalizeonthisandsellstuffwithlargerpocketsiftheysoldwell,youthinkthis
largerconspiracy/agreementwouldmakeanydifferenceintheirmindsiftheycouldmakeacoupleextrabucks?
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That'snosomuchaconspiracytheoryasitisafact,albeitlesssinisterthanyouthink.It'smorehistorical...
Backintheearlymodernerawomen'sclothesneverhadpockets(backthenwomen'sfashionwasfuckinretardedingeneral,with
corsetsandthosehugebuttcagethings)...Sopurseswerespecificallyinventedtomakeupforthelackofpockets.That'sallthereisto
itlol
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[] Swtcherrypie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iliketojokeandsaythisone,butreallythough,women'sclothingissupposedtobemoreformfittingsothepocketsaresmallerso
therearenoweirdbulges.
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[] tigerjaws undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NahIthinkithasmoretodowithifyouhaveagiantphoneinyourpocketitmakesyoulookandtheirclotheslookugly
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[] OhSnappitySnap undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatandtheirclothesareusuallysotight.
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[] Rosefae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Relatedly,makingclothessuperthinsoyouhavetowearmorelayerstostaywarmandthereforebuymoreclothes.
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[] agentjones undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thequestionis,doesthisapplytoallwomen'sclothing,includingbutnotlimitedto:Casualwear,formalwear,scrubs,workclothes,
hunting/outdoorclothes,outerwear,anduniforms?
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Ihaveseenguyspantswithunusable/nonexistentpockets,butI'mnotgoingtobuyapursetocarrymywalletsoIdon'tbuythepants
andifenoughpeoplefollowsuit,thenthatstyledies.Girlsarewillingtobuythepursesothattheirclothesdon'thavetohavebulky
pockets...simpleasthat.
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[] ProspectiveQuant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldn'tthefashionindustryjustdothesamethingtomen'sclothingtobeginatrendofmencarryingbagsformoreprofitsifit's
thatsimple?
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[] Kittenfluff44 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pursesdrivemecrazy.Igotawalletwithawriststrapthathasapocketformyphone.Stillhadtobuysomethingforshitthough...
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[] WhiteHeather undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pursesasweknowthemtodaywereinventedbecauseoflackofinternalpocketsinwomen'sclothingfromthelate18thcentury
throughtheVictorianera.IfyouhaveaccesstoEBSCOorJSTORI'dhighlyrecommendthearticle"FormandDeformity:theTrouble
withVictorianPockets."Internalpocketsfelloutofstylebecauseoftheslimmersilhouettesandfinerfabricsthatwereusedinthelate
18thandearly19thcentury,butthere'salotmoretoitthanjustthat.Therearealotofinterestingarticlesaboutpocketsandgender
thatarewellworththereadifthesubjectinterestsyouatall.
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[] spaceman_slim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Whoa.Ihavenoevidencetosupportthis,butIamimmediatelyconvinced.It'sjusttooneatandperfect.
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[] EccentricFox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'stoboostsalesofmen'scargopants.
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[] infecthead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Women'sclothingistootightandslimtohavepockets,fuckyourtheory
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[] PreOwnedCar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sprobablyaselffulfillingcycle.Theclothesdon'thavepocketsbecausetheyhavepurses.Theyneedpursesbecausetheclothes
don'thavepockets.
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Oralternativelyit'smeanttobeformfittingandpocketsarebulgy.
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[] quetzalKOTL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Emptypocketsdon'tbulge.Can'tIbetrustedtochoosebetweentheformandthewalletwhenIputontheoutfit?I'manadult.
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[] BigStereotype undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ontightpants,theydo.Momjeansareavailable,youknow.
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[] dudeguy_loves_reddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foundthewomen'sclothingdesigner.
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[] Pickled_Squid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,manywomen'sshirtsaremadeofsuperthinmaterialsoyouhavetobuymoreandlayerthem.
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Skinnyjeanswouldn'tbeskinnyiftheyweremadetoholdalotofstuffinthepockets.
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[] icanhazlurk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,allthemakeupplusthephone,plusthewalletplusthetampons,pluswhateverelsewomenfeelcompelledtocarry.Itwouldjust
looksillyintheirpockets.Pursesmarketthemselves.Theydon'tneedaconspiracy.
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[] biznatch11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiswhyweneedtobringbackcargopants,forallgenders.
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[] Timey_Wimey_TARDIS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwishmenwouldfinditsociallyacceptabletocarrypurses.Iamtiredofcarryingmyfiance'scrapallthetime.Yoursunglasses,
waterbottles,cliffbars,andgymlockjustmakemypurse3lbsheavier.
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[] myusernameranoutofsp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icarryamessengerbagoralaptopbagoften,orabackpack.
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[] 30mag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldbeconvenient.
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[] kolfan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Afriendofminecarriesamanpurse(heevencallsitthat),butit'sareallysmallbackpackheusesforallofhisstuff.He'skind
ofhipstermusicianthough,soit'snotatalloutofplacewithhisclothes.
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[] patrickkellyf3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustdon'thavestufftocarry,honestly.Phone,wallet.Done.
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Ihadthisdiscussionwithmyhusbandamonthorsoago,andheabsolutelyREFUSEDtocarryabag.Ialsohaveatoddler.
Investedinamuchsmallerpurse.Itfitsthebasicstuff,butthere'snomore,"Willthisfitinyourpurse?"Idon'twannabean
asshole,butcarrying3drinksisenoughtomakeitkeepslidingdownmyshoulder.
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Thismightsoundsilly,buthaveyouthoughtofgettingabackpack?IhaveaSwissArmybrandbackpackIuseasa
pursebecausesinglestrappedbagsgivemebackpain,anditfitssomuchstuffit'scrazy.WhenI'moutwithmy
boyfriendandhehastocarryanythingIjustsay"shoveitinthebag"anditdistributesweightsowellitdoesn'tevenfeel
thatbad.
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IdohaveabackpackforshoppingtripssinceIwalkeverywhere,butit'sbulkyandweird.Iprefernottocarrya
bagatallifIcanavoidit,buttripstothepark,movies,etc.arealwaysapain.I'llhavetomakeanoteformyselfto
lookonlinefortheSwissArmyone,becausethatsoundsperfect.IlikepocketsbecauseIalwayscarrycrayons
andotheroddsandendsfordoctorvisitsandothermoredullerrands.Thatstuffjustmakesamessinyour
averagepurse!
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Maybeputthecrayonsinaplasticziplockbagsotheydon'tgetanywhere?Justathought,eventhoughI
don'tknowhowit'dplayoutinreallife.Theswissarmyoneisperfectbecausetheshoulderstrapsaresuper
wideandheavilypadded,too.
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IguessIphrasedthatabitqueer.Idokeeptheminabaggy,butit'sjustimpossibletofindallthelittle
oddsandendsIkeeponmewhenthere'sjustoneortwobigpockets.
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Ohhh,Igotcha.IwaspicturingwhenIusedtoliveinTexasasakid,andinthesummermy
crayonswouldmeltandresolidifyEVERYWHERE.Morethanlikelynotyourcase,though,
haha.
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[] icanhazlurk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inaword:messengerbag.
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OnProjectRunway,onedesignerincludedpocketsinwomen'spantsandtheskinnyasfuckmodelthrewafit,claimedtheymadeher
lookfat.
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[] fluorowhore undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tthrowafitbutonmanyslimcutdesignspocketsjuststandoutanddisruptthesilhouette.
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Butisn'tthatwhatadesigner'ssupposedtodo?Comeupwithanewwayoflookingatsomething,anewwayofprovidinga
function?Whyisitsoimpossibleforthemtocomeupwithawayforwomentocarrystuffwiththem?
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Soundslikeajobforanengineer.Haveyouseenhowmanythingsawomancanfitinapurse?Orthesizeofatypical
wallet?Tellmehowyoustickthatonthesideofabodyconorsheathdresswithoutdisruptinghowthefabricdrapesor
causingabulgeonthesideofthefigure.
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[] SamuraiJakkass86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Icallthese..Pockets!YoucanHOLDTHINGSINTHEM!"
Clapsandcheeringallaround,exceptonereallybitchymodel.
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Actuallyit'stheotherwayaround.Theydon'thavepocketscausetheyhavepurses.
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[] ilikewhenboyscry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactlymystruggletoday.Iamwearingdresspantsforwork,theyhavetheappearanceofpocketsbutthedamnthingsaresewn
shut!!PlusInoticedthatMen'ssweats(HanesBrand)havepocketsbuttheWomen'ssweatsdonot,wtfisthatabout?
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Ihaveacoupleofsuitjacketsthathadthepocketsontheoutsidesewnup,ifthey'reevenrealpockets.
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[] salad_slippy_butt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknowthey'resewnshutsotheylooknicerprepurchase,right?You'resupposedtocutthemopen.
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[] feeniksina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit,youjustchangedmygoddamnlife.Areyouserious?!Thisisamazing.Brb,headedtomyclosetwitharazorblade
tocutopenallthepantswiththepocketsfrustratinglysewnshut...
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[] freyalorelei undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buyathreadcutter.It'smoreprecisewithlessriskofslicingyourhandopen.Source:Workedatdrycleaner/tailorshop
for17years.
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Wait!Don'topenthemall.They'llstartsaggingandlookbad!
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Wah!Iwaited!ButnowIhavetochoosebetweensaggingpantsandhavingrealpockets?!
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Yes,butyouprobablydon'tneedallyourpocketsdoyou?PersonallyIneverusethebackpockets.And
whenyou'rewearingasuityoucanprobablyfitallyourstuffintheinsidepocketofyourjacket?
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Iactuallydon'thaveanysuitjacketsthathavepockets.Ithinkthat'sanothergirlclothesthing.No
pockets.Nowhere.Nogod.):
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Well,women'sjacketsoftendolookbetter!MostlybecauseofthelackofpocketsIguess:)
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[] JefftheBaptist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.Alotofpocketsonmen'sdressclothingisalsosewnshut.Thisisespeciallycommononrearpantspocketsondress
pantsandsuit/sportcoats/blazerspockets.
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Well,itwouldonlytakeoneclothinglinetopickuponthisandmakefashionableclothingwithpocketstoreapalltheprofits.
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[] hairam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youguysdorealize,alotofwomen'sclothingdoeshavepockets,right?Therearecertainbrandsorwhateverthatdon't,butit'snot
necessarilyraretohaverealpocketsinyourpants.AtleastalltheplacesIgetpantsfromhavepockets...skinnyjeansincluded.I
thinkImostlyhadissueswiththenonpocketsin~middleschoolearlyhighschool.
Infact,themid2000shadaboominthepopularityofpocketsinclothesthatnormallywouldn'thavepockets,likedressesand
skirts.
Idon'tknow,perhapsI'mwrongsinceIdon'tbuydesignerclothes,butevendesignerclothesaren'tnecessarilypocketless(I'm
thinkingofonedressinparticularthatIknowhaspockets,though)...
Soifanything,ithasseemedtomethatthecheaperthebrand,themorelikelytheyaretocutpocketsthenthere'salsothe
existenceofjeggings,whichunderstandablyoftenaren'tgoingtohavepockets,thoughtheymayhaveafakepocketseam(could
beincorrectIdon'tbuyjeggins).
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Thatwaskindamypoint.
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butifwomenhadfunctionalclothinginsteadofdisguisedpanyhosehowcouldmenlookatthemassexobjects?!!1!!
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No.It'sbecausetheextrabitoffabriccausesextrabulk.Plus,theyaddcosttothemanufacturingprocess.Pricierjeansalwayshave
pocketsasdodresspants.Lotsofdressesdotoonow.
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Iwouldargueitsthestuffinthepocketsthatcausesextrabulk.
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[] Ragnrk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,you'dbewrongtosuggestthatthepocketsthemselvesdon'taddbulk.
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Dependsontheitem.Mynotskintightclothingwithandwithoutpocketscannotbedistinguishedonsight.
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[] dylstew 44points
Isthiswhysomanywomanstoreobjectssuchassunglassesbetweentheirbreasts?
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Don'tlotsofmenalsohangsunglassesofftheircollars?
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[] FriendlyBlanket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thingscanbehundredsofdollars,Iwouldn'tputtheminmypocket
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[] dylstew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Ididn'trealize,becausetheboobscatchedallmyattention.
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Yes
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[] EPGeezy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthat...Plusputtingsunglassesonyourheadstretchesthem.
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[] Matti_Matti_Matti undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'smoreaboutmakeupandhairstyles.Plasticsdon'tstretchverywellandit'shardforanoptometristtodoit
professionallywithadedicatedmachine.
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Howdoesputtingsunglassesontheheadstretchyourbreasts?
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...yourheads?
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[] PixelPantsAshli undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,allofthem.
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[] sweetrolljim 1point
AsfarasIknow,yes.
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[] dylstew 5points
SadlyIdon'thavesaidstoragespace,butIcouldalwaysgrowanAfroandusethatinstead.
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[] He_Went_2_Jared undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn,itmustbesuchanawesomeprivilegetobeblack
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Iknowright?Whatifyou'reblackANDhavebigbreasts?That'dbelikedoubletheprivelage:o
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[] SatanLordOfDarkness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hm...Notoftenyouhearpeopletalkaboutblackfemaleprivilege
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[] SantaIsRealEh 5points
9/11
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[] Iacopelli13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldhaveassumedthiswouldhavethemostupvotes.9/11wouldbesurprised
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WellmostAmericansdon'tseemtothinkso.
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[] Sexymaninatincan 1728points
WELL10YEARSAGOTHEREWERE9PLANETSNOWTHERESONLY8!WHATHAPPENEDTOTHATONEPLANET?ILLTELL
YOUWHATHAPPENED,THEGOVERNMENTCREATEDAPLANETDESTROYERKINDALIKEADEATHSTARANDAREUSING
ITTODESTROYPLANETSANDTAKEOVERTHEGALAXYANDTHEUNIVERSE!
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[] LeonDeSchal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwouldbeacrazystory.Weareactuallyaadvancedspacefaringcivilisationbutthemassesdon'tknow.
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[] that_drifter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tknowthehalfofit,theyalsodecidedthatwhatusedtobeabrontosaurusnolongeris!Theyliterallygotridofawhole
dinosaur!
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[] ChiTownStoolie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uranusisnext!
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[] blitzkraft undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Relevantwhatifxkcd
(Thelastimage)
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[] abesukka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Poorplutonians:((
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[] kuhndawg8888 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhisname?NeilDeGrasseTyson.
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[] djherp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
plutoisNOTaplanet
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[] sseidl88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThegovernmentishidingaDeathStar
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[] krankkinder12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wearebackto9again
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[] goat_fucker_69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouhearaboutPluto?
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Occam'sRazor.
Plutoispartofanasteroidbeltandtherearelotsofsimilarsizedobjectsinthatbelt.Plutoisjustthefirstonewefoundbeforewe
realizedthisfact.
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[] faryl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikeallcapsandstartingwiththeword"well"somehowaddstotheconspiracytheoryvibe.
(nicelydone)
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[] momomo544 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TBHIwouldhavenoproblemwithhumanstakingoverthegalaxyanduniverse.We'reprettyok.
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[] 4_HOMET undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKstoleplutoandthrewitintothetwintowersrightbeforekillinghimselfandframingJarJarBinks.
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Iwishtheworldwasacoolenoughplaceforthistobetrue.
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[] Satans__Secretary undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,itwasdestroyed...butnotbyanyhuman.
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[] Carrman099 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IreadthatassargefromRedvsBlue.
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Absolutelytrue.Allcapsmakesitso.
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It'smoreofaconspiracyifsimplytheyjustdecidedtheydidn'twantitasaplanet.
TheAntiPlutoAgenda.
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Formanyyears,peoplethoughttherewasaplanetbetweenMarsandJupiterthatwasdestroyedandbecametheasteroidbelt.Now
theyjustthinkJupiter'sgravitykeptsuchaplanetfromforming,leavingthebelt.
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[] Lord_Iggy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mimasyo.Justlookatit.
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[] Galaxy_Ranger_Bob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThedowngradingofPlutofromplanettodwarfplanethasn'treducedthenumberofplanetsinoursystem.Insteadithasincreaseditto
13knownplanets(includingdwarfplanets)andpossiblemanymorenotyetdiscovered.
Fortherecordtheknowndwarfplanetsare:Ceres,Pluto,Haumea,MakemakeandEris.SomenewcandidatesareOrcus,Salacia,
Quaoar,andSedna.Somenewcandidatesthatneedbetternames:2002MS4and2007OR10.The4andthe10shouldbewrittenas
subscripttext.Can'tdothatonreddit.
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Yup.Itwasnevera"BigBoy"planetandwasnamedbeforeweknewaboutthedwarfplanetsandkieperbeltobjects.Itsnotawarm
rockyTerrestrialoraJoviangasgiantsoitisnottechnicallyaplanet.
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Alldwarfplanetsaretechnicallyplanets.CeresisbiggerthanJupiter,closerthanJupiterandshouldbecategorizedasa
planetalongsideJupiter.Ifyoudon't,thenyourcropswillfail.Don'tevengetmestartedonwhatkindofthinghappensifyou
pissoffEris.
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[] serf21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snomoon...
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Nowthereare90planets.
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[] knirefnel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Earth!Mars!Venus!Saturn!...uh...
Mars.Venus.Planet.Er.Mars.Venus.Mercury.Jupiter.Saturn.Andthenthere'sRectus9.And...uh...TrashcanManisagood
planet.
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Hey,Trash,whatdidoldladySemplesaywhenyoutorchedherpensioncheck?
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[] Drix22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youjest,butthereisatheorythatthenewrulesgoverningplanetarybodiesisinfactatrollbyaseriesofacademicswhodidnotget
paneledonadiscussionabouttherules.
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[] bluelove12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
therewillbeonly7planetsleftafterIdestroyUranus!
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[] Koutou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EveryoneknowPlutolosttheirplanetstatusbecauseofintenseplutoniummining.
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Anda"scientist"fromEarthtriedtodefendPluto'splanetstatusbuthissonconvincedhimotherwise.
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[] TeeJayEsss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Againwiththisshit,ScroopyNoopers?
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SendhimtoPlutonamoBay!whatisthat,youask?Itsahighsecurityprisonasortofplayonwords.
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[] Koutou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcan'tkillthetruth,TeeJayEsss!
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[] Smothdude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineedplatinum,notplutonium,fuck!
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[] Chinampa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bythenine!
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[] bogidyboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StarkillerBaseconfirmed
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[] subwooferofthehose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PresidentBush:Youmayfirewhenready!
DickCheney:MYEAAAHFIREFIREFIRE
Pluto:BOOOOOM!
...seemslegit.
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[] PMmeforsocialANXhelp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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IlltellyouHWHatTBilly..
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TheygotridofPlutototerraformitasasatelliteport.TheVoyagerSpaceProbehasbenchmarkedtheamountoftimeittakestoexit
oursolarsystem.
Youdon'tbuilddocksinthemiddleoffields,youbuildthembytheocean.
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thoseitalicsearnedyouanupvote.fuckingnice...
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CometoIllinois.Still9planetsbylawhere!
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[] the_sky_god15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OkRon,calmdown
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[] schmearcampain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"They"eliminatedPlutoasaplanetonlysotheycouldreintroduceitasaplanetinafewyearsandsellmorePlutomerchandise.
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Afterswitchingtohighfructosecornsyrupofcourse.
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[] CaptainMimosa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ILLUMINATI!ILLUMINATI!
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[] MrShartsHimself undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndtheycalledittheMurderMoon!
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Funfact,thecosttobuildadeathstarissomewherearound462quadrilliondollars.
AnotherfunfacttheAmericansmadeafuckingpetitiontobuildone...
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[] redwiings undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PetitionshaveaboutasmuchrealpowerasaDeathStar
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Theycoulddestroyaplanet???
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Anditwasfunny...
Whydoyouhatefun?
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Irushedlongandgotawped.That'swhy.
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Gr8b8m8
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[] VaginalFungus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WOAH!!MINDAND/ORPLUTO=BLOWN!!!
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[] pnutbuttercow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicetrybuzzfeed
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Actuallyplutoisbeingslowlyminedforitsrichdepositsofplutoniumcausingittoshrinkintoacelestialdwarf.
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[] DoritoAssassin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stupid,sexy,Plutogetsalltheaction.
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[] me_can_san45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plutoisaplanet
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[] sundancekid005 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Tellthemwhatyoutoldme,Jerry."
"PlutoisaFUCKINGplanet!"
(Plutonianseruptincheers.)
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"PlutoisaFuckingplanet!"KingFlippynipps,rulerofPluto
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[] FlyingVolvo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
THEYDON'TCALLIT(PLUTO)NIUMFORNOTHING!WAKEUPSHEEPLE!!!
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[] Scienscatologist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoublewPluto?Nowonderhealwayslookssohappy.
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Whynotboth?
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[] secretlygay15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nextthingyouknow,they'lldestroyUranus.
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TheTSAisworkingasfastastheycan.
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[] samsquanch42069 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uranuswillbeblown
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[] ultramadscienti undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"ThegovernmentisplanningtowreckUranus"
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[] NZheadshot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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YeahUranuswillbecompletelywrecked
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[] zhegames undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
)
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[] red3biggs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
blowup....blowupuranus
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[] Joetato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sadly,Icannotsaythesameaboutmycock.
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[] Deroni76 5572points
Obamaworksforthegovernment.
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Ilovehowquicklythisbecameajokethread.
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[] MonitorMoniker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.theonion.com/video/slowwittedconspiracytheoristconvincedgovernme34749
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[] p_oncho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Questionslikethisaremostlikelyaimedatdiffusingconspiracytheoriesmoreintofolkloreandlessintoreality.
Oh,lookatallthesecrazyinternetnutjobs!
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[] KeavonC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RelevantTheOnion
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[] Cpapa97 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn,Iknewit...he'ssupposedtobeworkingforthepeople!
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[] MackLuster77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisonegoesallthewayuptotheWhiteHouse!
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[] Xalteox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Paging/u/PresidentObama.Canyouconfirm.
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[] NotWhoYouSummoned undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes.
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[] tkoumpa117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GTFO.NOWAY
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[] goplayer7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,NASAisrunbythegovernment.
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[] soapgoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
holyshit
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[] PWNGEoftheGODS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://youtu.be/Pw2sex1mJNI
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[] Abounds37 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.theonion.com/video/slowwittedconspiracytheoristconvincedgovernme34749
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[] fried_eggs_and_ham undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allpresidentsworkforthegovernment.That'snotsomeweird,farfetchedconspiracy.Imean,seriously,wereallygivecomplete
controlofthegovernmenttoatemporaryfigureheadevery4or8years?Ofcoursenot.Thepresidencyis,Obamaorotherwise,forPR
purposesonly.
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HeisalsoaKeynesian.
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[] ShaiHulud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Psst,theJewscontrolIsrael!
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Andit'slikethefoolsdon'tevenseeit.There'ssomuchevidence!
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Whoa!Thatisreallyoutthere.HopetheNSAisn'tlistening.
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[] SickPuppyLover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegovernmentisrunbybureaucrats.
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[] tommygunz007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveheardthattherearelike14levelsofclassifiedABOVEthepresident,thatsupposedlyhecanknowifheasks,buttheywillwant
toknow..WHYheisasking..
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[] BetterCallSal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howhighupdoesthisgo?
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GetyourgovernmenthandsoffmyMedicare.
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[] EccentricFox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themoonlandingwasaninsidejob.
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[] renome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...THEMUSLIMGOVERNMENT!
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[] paul_the_clown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Source???
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[] Smove undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'stheonlyemployerhe'severhad
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[] parrywinks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sdefinitelyonthereptilians'payroll.
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[] Redditmucational undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmademeleaveredditfortheday.Nowthinkaboutthat!!!!Actuallysaid"I'mdone"outloudandI'minmyparkedcar,outsideof
work.Ihopeyoufeelgoodaboutthis.
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[] SodaCanSuperman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Namanthatonelooksfake
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[] Buffalo__Buffalo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obamaroleisaninsidejob
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[] thereisonlyoneme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sObama'sfault.
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[] foshobrah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
r/shittyconspiracy
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[] Lakecrab undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HesureasHELLain'tworkingforusGoy.So,yeahtherumoristrue.
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Iheardheissecretlyrunningthecountry.
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[] RadioSoulwax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SodoIjustnotthesameone
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[] AwfulMonk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowifthisissarcasmornot...readcommentsstillnotsure
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[] Dashdylan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
u/jokeexplainbot?
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[] lynnspiracytheories undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'renotevenbeingsubtleaboutit.WordisthatObamagetspaid$400,000ayearfor"executiveduties".Whatdoesthateven
mean?Soundsfake.
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[] minomserc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,that'ssupposedtobehisjob,butI'veneveractuallyseehimkillanyone
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Youonlyseewhattheywantyoutosee,maaan.
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[] dan0314 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'saprettypatheticsalaryforbeingtheleaderoftheU.S.
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It'scalledtheConstitution,/u/dan0314.Lookitup.
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Ican'ttellifyou'rebeingsarcasticornot
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Iam.It'saMeanGirlsreference,myapologies.
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Oh!Noworries!
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[] Th3R00ST3R undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yousaiddoodies
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[] Kaeny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Blowjobs
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[] RoseBladePhantom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Upvotedandlol'dnotbecauseIthinkyou'reright,butbecauseyousoundright.
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Theyalsocomphislunches,livingquarters,andtransportation.Somethingiscertainlyafoot.
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I'veheardarumorthathealsogetsamultimilliondollarofficebudgetandacouplemilliondollarseachyearforcateringservices
providedbytheU.S.Navy.
Evenmoreoddisthevaguerumorthatthereisapenthousesuiteat1600PennsylvaniaAvenuewherethereisaBBQgrillanda
patioontheroof...whenObamawantstochillandgetawayfromthestaff.
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Didyouseethat"TurkeyPardoning"ceremonyhedidonThanksgiving?What'supwiththat,man?Whoishetodecidewhich
turkeysgetexecutedandwhichonesgofree?AndshameontheUSgovernmentforjustbroadcastingitallonnationalTV.
Whatisgoingon?
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[] deadbeatsummers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActuallyIseepeopleonFacebookrantingaboutshitlikethisallthetime...
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[] dsaasddsaasd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuck,U.S.Navy,seriously?That'ssomesupershadyshitrightthere,whynobodytalkesaboutthis?!
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Becausethecateringservicebudgetmentionedisactuallybeingusedforsecretgovernmentoperations.LikeSEALand
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Deltaoperations,thetypeofstufftheycan'tacknowledgeandalsoforthefundingofsecretbasesandtechnological
development(thinkArea51).
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ThePresidentialFanSiteeventalksabouthowtheU.S.Navyhasbeendoingthisforsometime.
Sadrumortoalsopointout:themilitaryspecializationofbeingastewardusedtobenearlytheonlyjoba"personof
color"couldhaveintheU.S.Navytoo,althoughthatdidincludethestewardswhoservedintheWhiteHouseaswell.
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[] A_Smith22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andallthisabout'WhiteHouse'?Morelikehouseoflies...Iftherereallywasawhitehousewouldntitgetdirtyby
now?!Thatblondegirlnearyourdormroom
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[] Ghostronic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IstillfeellikeitshouldhavebeencalledtheBlackHouseduringObama'sterms.
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[] Sarey14 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesn'theliterallyworkforthegovernment.Likeheworksinajobthatispartofthegovernmentinfrastructureandgetspaidfrom
governmentfunds.Doesn'tthatmeanthathedoesworkforthegovernment?Justsaying....
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[] UmerHasIt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohhoney...
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[] ogbobbydaniel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GaryBuseyworksforObama.
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mind=blown
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[] AnMatamaiticeoirRua 1point
IsraelisrunbytheJews.
Thinkaboutit:IsraelisthenameofacharacterfromtheTorah.IfIsraelweretheChristiancountryitclaimstobe,whywouldn'tthey
useabiblicalcharacterlikeJacob?
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[] Lord_Surskit 6points
Relevant
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[] JohhnyTheKid 0points
THESIGNSAREALLTHERE
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[] PhysicalStuff 3993points
PeoplewhobelievethisalsotendtothinkthatIsraelisrunbyJews.
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[] OzBeardedDad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Astroturf,youknowwhosresponsibleforthat?TheJews.TheJewshategrass.
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OrangeJews?
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[] curtmantle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Proof:i.imgur.com/MPyYbO7.jpg
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Youtakethatback!
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[] BannedFromPCMR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheJewsdidthis.
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[] ShakerJew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoisCleveland
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aaaah?Isthatnotacase?
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[] Undify undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BorninTelAvivtosecularJewishparentshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu
Idon'tunderstandwhatyoumean.
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Thismademelaughreallygoddamnhard.Takeyourwellearnedupvote.
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[] ButtStallionn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Reportedforracism.
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WhenIfirstvisitedIsrael(I'maWASPAmerican)ItoldmyorthodoxfriendthatIsraelisnice,butyoucantelltheJewsrunthe
media.
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[] trlababalan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyalsobelievethatallthemerchandisewithlabel"madeinChina"areimportedfromChina.
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[] MacroHardDoors undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butlet'sbereal,7/11wasaparttimejob
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[] SirFoxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyousomesortofantidentite?
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[] nannerpuss74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
iwasataclubdrinkingsoloafewweekspast(dontjudgeilovecrowdsbutihatepeople)andiamlisteningtoaguygointogreat
detailabouthowalargeportionofgermansstoleidentitiesofjewstheymurderedincampsandghettos.likeagermanwhowasfar
thinkingenoughwouldgetidentitiesforhimandhisfamily,thatwayifthingswentthewrongway(spoiler,itdid)theycouldposeas
ajewishfamilyandposeasjewswhohidorusedalotoffavors.todaythesegermanshaveworkedtheirwayintothejewish
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governmentandindustrialcomplex.imayhavebeendrunkorgettingtherebutdamnifthisguywasntconvincing.
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Itmayhavebeenthesoloyouweredrinking.Iheardthatitisaviciousbrew.Itmayhaveaffectedyourhearing.(Theseare
nottheNazis...ooopsdroidsyouarelookingfor)
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[] ASKIFIAMPAULRUDD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthinkaboutit.NetanyahusoundssuspiciouslylikeMatisyahu,awellknownJEWISHsinger.
AndNowjustlookatIsreal'sflag:http://imgur.com/xlo6rMdNowifyoulookverycloselyyou'llseewhatappearstobetheStarof
David,awellknownJEWISHsymbol.
Thefactsdon'tlie.
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[] foreverinLOL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thetruthdon'tlie.
Alsopaindon'thurt.
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[Yourusername]?
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[] A_Drunken_Eskimo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tseeitintheflag.Didyoulinktherightimage???
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[] darman92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AreyoureallyPaulRudd?
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Yeah,butJewishpeopleonlymakeupabout2%oftheworldpopulation,andyou'retellingmetheyrunanentirecountry?Get
real.
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[] bigGOONER15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Paul?
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[] JeffJeezy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Matisyahuisn'tJewish.
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[] _420CakeDay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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ThisisnotaTWL/CMDsafespace.IadviseyoubackawayslowlybeforeyougetShrekt.
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[] ImAbsolutelyNobody undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndMario,fromsuperMariobrother'sisoftensaying"Yahoo!"Howdoweknowhe'sactuallynotjustsaying"Yahu"?
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MarioconfirmedZionistpropaganda
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[] Iwannalift undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LOLyou'reprobablyoneofthempeoplethatthinkObamaworkforthegovernment!justbecausehispresidentdontmeanhe
actuallyworksforgovernment!!LOL
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Youlaugh,butafterseeingthisallthewayinIndia!Ithinkwecanonlydrawoneconclusion.
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[] zephyer19 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whythosesneakybastards!AllthistimeIthoughtitwasadevilworshipingcountry.
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[] da_chicken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowifyoulookverycloselyyou'llseewhatappearstobetheStarofDavid,awellknownJEWISHsymbol.
That'sjustalie.EverybodyknowsthosearethesixcoolranchDoritosgiventotheBritishtoendtheirrule.
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[] Brigand92g undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NahIthinkyou'relookingtoofarintoit,that'snottheStarofDavidit'stwointerlockedtriangles
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[] YourNotAngryNeighbor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyoumightbeontosomethinghere
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Thetruthdon'tlie.
Myhipsdon'tlie.
RickRubin.
Jewscontrolthemedia,confirmed.
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[] SalmonDoctor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn.IalwaysthoughtitwasinspiredbytheRodofAsclepius.
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[] PM_ME_UR_LARGE_TITS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
inothernews,paulruddgottakenoutbymossadtoday.
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Hah,thisguythinkstheMossadisranbyIsrael.Whatanut.
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[] Buffalo_Chicken undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UpvoteformentioningMatisyahu
AlsoyoukilleditinAntMan
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[] Threeedaaawwwg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sobviouslyapentagram
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Butwhatifisrealwasnotkill?Ithinkthereissomethingtheyarehidingfromus.considerthis:'David'hasfiveletters.You
knowwhatelsehasfiveletters?'Mario'.Mariohastheletterainit,theletteraisthefirstletterofthealphabet,bulbasaurwas
thefirstpokemon.pokemongoldandsilver.silverisAgontheperiodictable.'ag'alsostandsforarcadegames.namcomakes
arcadegames.DigDugwasanamcoarcadegame.jetfuelcan'tmeltsteelbeams.Digdughasfiveletterifyoutakeawaythe
lastone.Youknowwhatelsehasfiveletters?Banjo.Banjoandkazooiedlcconfimed
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ButintheLatinalphabet,JigglypuffbeginswithanI
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[] Some_Other_Sherman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Obviousinhindsight.
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[] jasmine_tea_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Someonegivethispersongold!
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Ididn'tactuallymakethisup,thisisthesourcehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1OBYnZ9Sk
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[] Its_me_Freddy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknewIhadheardthatsomewhere.Iwasalmostgoingcrazytryingtofigureoutfromwhereitwas,almost
convincedmyselfitwasSouthPark,butofcourseitwasfrom/r/montageparodies.GodIlovethatsub.
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That....thatwasbeautiful!
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blackdynamite,isthatyou?
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Broyourreferencesareoutofcontrol
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IdowhatIcan
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THENWHOWASJOB?
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[] NickRick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whereareyouseeingthisjewishstar?theresawhitebar,abluebar,alargerwhitebar,abluebar,andanothersmallwhite
bar.thenthereisacircleof6trianglesinthemiddlecombiningtoshowthesun.
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[] burner549 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uh,technicallythesunisastar.Duh.
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There'sasushibarintheretoo.
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[] Daggertrout undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseetwoblackbarsandagoldbar.
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[] T3hN1nj4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowwhereyou'regetting6triangles...Ionlyseetwooverlapping.Oneispointingup,theotherpointingdown
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[] Scottz0rz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohmygod...theJewsownthesun?
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[] real_fuzzy_bums undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseeatleast6illuminatisonthatflag
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[] Stardustchaser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forgod'ssakeman,it'sahexagon,notacircle!
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[] UOLATSC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatareyoutalkingabout?Thebarsareallblackandgold.
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[] NXELPPA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsraelareallRaworshippersconfirmed.
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[] Moobs_like_Jagger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youseesixtriangles?Weird,Ionlyseetwo,superimposed.Superimposed...super.Soupor..."souporsalad"isa
choiceyouhaveatOliveGarden...Olives...TheMountofOlives...GethsemaneisatthefootoftheMountofOlives,in
Jerusalem...JesusprayedatGethsemanebeforehiscrucifixion...
TheJewskilledJesus
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Sixtriangles?SixlettersinthewordJEWISH?Coincidence?Ithinknot.
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[] PhysicalStuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThehexagonwithatriangleoneachfacerepresentsthetallestmountainsoneachofthesixcontinetsofEarth
(Antarcticaisn'tcounted)Denali,Aconcagua,Elbrus,Kilimanjaro,EverestandKusciuszko.
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[] MetaphysicallyHitIer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andwhatelseistriangles?that'sright,thetallestmountainsareallilluminatilodges!
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AccordingtothetorahaJEWISHcollectionofbooks,thesunwascreatedbyaJEWISHGod.Andyouknowswho
coincidentlyworshipsthisgod?THEJOOS
Thefactsdon'tlieandshowthatwhoisreallyincontrol
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[] _boboddy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Readthroughthiscommentthreadlookingforthisgif.Wasnotdisappointed.
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[] xAIRGUITARISTx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait.AreyouPaulRuud?!
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[] M00glemuffins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DoesthismeanthatsinceJesusisJewish,andChristianityworshipshim,somemassiveulteriorJewishplotto
controlthereligionsoftheworldisgoingon?InsideeveryChristianisasleeperJewagent?
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Thejeeeeew!!!Israelhasbeenconqueredfortolong
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[] Lazylightning85 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
UpvoteforJoos.AndnoI'mnotoneofthem.
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Godberry!KingoftheJuice.
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[] uchallenginme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OtherflavorsincludemananaandGUN
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[] metastasis_d undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fizzbitch!
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[] D_for_Diabetes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sidenote,inthisgifheissayinginjusticainhisnativePortuguese.
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[] penea2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JOOS
InAvatarJooDeewasbrainwashedbythepersonincharge!ITSALLACONSPIRACY
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[] sockmonkeyadam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weneedtogodeeper
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It'sJEWSallthewaydown.
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It'sspelt"theJuice"not"theJoos".Readafuckingbook.
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[] Pomguo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
afuckingbook
SpecificallyMichaelFrayne'sSpies,perchance?
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theyews?withahardy
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[] zvvneuo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsaJew,Iconfirm"TheJuice"iscorrectpluralspelling.
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[] cochon1010 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didyouknow,Hitleractuallylovedjuice
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That'sactuallyapictureofthePrussiannobleFransHipstler.HewasedgyevenbyWeimar
standards.
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[] Ice_2010 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
751/1137
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EverybodyHitlerhatin'whentheyspeakmynameButit'sthenewmilleniumandtheFuhrerhas
changedAndwhatIbetya'lldidn'tknowisnowI'mdownwiththejews!Thegypsies,
homosexualsandretardstoo!CauseIstoppedburnin'people,startedburnin'CD'sStopped
battlin'theworld,startedbattlin'MC'sJuststartedbustin'rhymes,finallyfoundmygrooveAnd
nowthe"S.S"onmyjacketstandsfor"SuperSmooth"
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[] rotll undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Juice,indeed...
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Yes,ChancetheRapperhasspokenonthistopicinhismixtapeAcidRap.HegottheJuice,meaninghe
knowsabouttheJewsandtheirmagicalLizardblacksexmagicenchantments.
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StopblamingOJSimpsonforeverything!
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[] silentbob24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftheshoefits...
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Youlikadajusah?Dajusisgoodah?
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[] hokiedoubleEECE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OJSimpson,NotaJew
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[] alexsmithfanning undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stopblamingmeforeverything!
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[] bupvote undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noyou'rethinkingofHollywood
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[] EbolaNinja 5280points
7/11isaparttimejob.
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[] Arkonisas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whythefuckisthisevengilded,it'snotevenanoriginaljoke?
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Sikhreferencebro
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[] Mix_Master_Floppy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7:11isajobstarttime.
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7/11wasaninsidejob.
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[] andys5010 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NeverForget
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[] BrendanTheONeill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nothating,butI'mamazedyoujustgotgoldforameme
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[] EbolaNinja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobefair,soamI.
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[] Master_K_Genius_Pi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhmygodIspitallovermyphonelaughingatthisone!
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[] Jaywebbs90 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11withrice...wait..
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[] kirbyprower undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ahyes,theol'goldandkarmaforastolenjoke
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Ualreadygotthegold.Bestinshow.
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[] RenegadeSpade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'llhaveyouknowI'veseenthesamemiddleeasternguyworkingatmylocal7/11forthelast30years.
Im only 25.
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[] pordanjacker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBushadministrationmustbebehind7/11
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[] morehamplease undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Istilllovethat.
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[] Blank747 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushdid7/11
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[] callans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wastsided
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[] PoorboyAaron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youreapthatkarma,man.Youreapit.
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[] jadeola undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tgetit
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[] PunnyYolks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
753/1137
12/7/2015
Alotofpeopleclaim9/11wasaninsidejob.
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[] jadeola undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ahrightgotcha
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[] Sefkeetlee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Investigate311
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[] Kwangone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11NEVERFORGETTONOTREMEMBER
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[] maxbuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Havepeoplereallyneverheardthisbefore?Damn
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[] iPCV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11isalsoaninsidejob.Anyonethattellsyouotherwiseisprobablyfullofgarbage.
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TheonlyformofthememeIwillupvote.
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[] JahEazy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youruseofpresenttensehasmesuspicious
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Ilaughed,no,bellowedoutloudatthis
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[] pmmedatassma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
allahusnackbar
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[] ProjectDRAFT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverforget
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[] dbc45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithought7/11wasaninsidejob
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[] UNSTABLETON_LIVE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iheardthehomelesswerebehind7/11
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[] najodleglejszy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejoke.
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[] MercurysOverbite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasablowjob.
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[] jackrwoods undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasafraction.
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[] Best_Name_Ever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaprankbro!Look!Camera!
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[] AndTheLink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11
0.81818181818182
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[] Therealbigteddy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howcan9/11beaninsidejobwhenplanesflyoutside
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[] XDSHENANNIGANZ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyoureallymeanthat?
Ihopeyou'rejustplanewithme.
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[] AlterBridgeFan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
13/11neverbaguette.
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[] WonTonBurritoMeals undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LOC!
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[] XxDahREDDITnaytarxX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
STRAIGHTOUTTAMUTHAFUCKIN'LOCASH!!!
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[] WonTonBurritoMeals undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatcrackrocksteadybeatdrumson!
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[] douwontit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Toosoon?
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[] dreadington undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fiveyearsbefore9/11
"Heyman,youknowwhatwouldbeareallycoolprank?Ifsomeoneweretoflyaplaneintoabuilding!"
"yea,yo"
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[] Best_Name_Ever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaprankbro!Look!Camera!
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[] AquaticBliss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FUNFACT:"AllahuAkbar"translatesto"It'sjustaprankbro"inEnglish.
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[] BentheMan22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butitisn'tterrorism,causeit'sjustaprank.
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[] EvadTB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,youjusthadtobetheretogetit.
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[] ebilgenius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifitwasaninsidejobthenwhydidtheplanescomefromtheoutside?
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[] TKBaja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasablowjob.
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[] ShallowBasketcase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ShewentdownonmeliketheWorldTradeCenter.
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[] CelestialWalrus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Edgy.
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[] Xcodist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Toosoonbro.
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[] wggn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'snevertoosoon
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[] stacyslays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'smybirthday
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[] TwinKSATurbo 24points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisthetrillionthtimeI'vethisshittyjoke.
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[] sleepinlight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,thisguybasicallyjustgotgoldforsaying"knockknock..."
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[] Stevebiglegs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hegotgoldforthatcrap
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[] tashmar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sbeenmadeatleast5timesinthisthreadalone.
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[] BleedTheFreak_23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anditbarelyrelatestotheoriginalcomment.
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[] SurelyDrunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Comeupwithafunnieronetoinfecttheinternet.I'veseenitabilliontimesandstillfinditamusing.
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[] HJK148 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
infect
Madagascardoesn'tlikethesoundofthat!
Closesport
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[] XxDeepBlueCxX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
756/1137
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SurelyDrunkisahomeschooledknob?
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[] SurelyDrunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hah,that'sfunny.YouthinkIhadschooling.WhathighpraisefromReddit.
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[] zach2992 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybemyfifthtime.
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[] Got_wake 3455points
Slurpeesdon'tmeltkrispykremes
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[] BFGDoomer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MMMMMM....That'sagoodsquishee!
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[] CoffeeSwagga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KEKMEMEXDDDDD!!!
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[] awry_lynx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilegitimatelyfeellikesomeoneneedstowriteaterriblesongwithallofthesememes.ItwouldbehorribleandIwouldhateit.
Itneedstohappen.
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[] Got_wake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isupportthisidea100%howeverIhavenexttononecreativity,sowecansitbackandwaitforsomeoneelsetodoit.
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Youhaveresearchedthis?SomehowIwantthisphraseonatshirt,orsomething.
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[] Got_wake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'dbuyit
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[] Kironi68 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButslurpeescansoftentheKrispyKremestothepointofstructuralfailure
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[] iWishiWasClever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
krispymemes*
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[] doodypoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Slurpeesdon'tmeltkrispymemes
FTFY
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[] provackson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bandaidsdon'tfixbulletholes.
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[] tugmyjugz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bandaidsdontfixbulletholes
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butatampaxwillplugthem
(punctuationandcapitalizationpurposelyleftouttomakeagrammarNazihappy)
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Thisismyfavorite.
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[] ws6pilot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tmelttheseKrispyMemes
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[] Nmaka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverheardthatonebefore,goodjob!
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[] milesanator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Titanicwasanindoorsjob,Icebergscan'tmeltsteelhulls.
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[] A_Drunken_Eskimo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheTitanicneversank,itwenttotheislandfromtheshowLOST.That'swhereMH370landed.AndAmeliaEarhart.
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[] fists_of_curry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lolanindoorsjob?!
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"Drawmelikeoneofyourdankmemes,Jack."
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[] Mech__Dragon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mycoworkersbreathcanmeltsteelcarparts.
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[] soliloquay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
indoors?
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[] ExplorersX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buttheycanlowerthestructuralintegrityenoughtocausehullfailure
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[] tkyocoffeeman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Baaahhhbaaahhh.Didyougetthat,sheep?
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[] HeyItsLP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Titenic*
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[] Meskaline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1910timeswereweird.
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[] HeyItsLP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Man,1910timeswereSCARY.
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[] TheRiverSaint undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicectrl+9.
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[] ADickFullOfAsses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icebergseh?SotheJewswerebehinditafterall.
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[] creepingdeathv2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atleastoneicecoldjewcertainlyis
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[] jmcvaljean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icebergscan'tmelttheShipofDreams.
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[] codyad7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icebergscan'tmeltsteelhulls.
That'sactuallyagoodwaytoshowhowthatsayingisBS
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[] Ken_Breadbox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,thethingaboutTITANICis,somanywrongdecisionsandoversightsweremadetherethatitalmost
doesseemdeliberate.Imean,everyoneknowsthereweren'tenoughlifeboats,andtheyknowtherationalization
forit.But
whywerethebinocularsleftbehindinSouthampton?
whydidtheshiptakeacoursetoofarnorthfortheseason,
ataspeedtheshipshouldn'thaveattainedatallonhermaidenvoyage,
ignoringSIXicewarningsintheprocess?
Thewonderwasn'tthatTITANIChitaniceberg.Thewonderwasshemanagedtogetsofarintoahugefieldof
bergsbeforeshedid.
Then:
Icanforgiveportingaroundtheicebergontheperfectlyreasonablegroundsyou'renotgoingtoramitoutright
(althoughifyoudo,you'llonlydamagethefirstcoupleofcompartmentsandgettowedintoportthelaughingstock
oftheworld,butwithminimallossoflife).
But
whyclosethewatertightcompartments,thusensuringtheshipwillNOTsinkonanevenkeel?Theextentofthe
damagewasknown.There'sthistendencytothinkfromtheperspectiveof2015that1912engineersdidn'tknow
afuckingthing,buttrustme,Andrewswouldhaveknownexactlyinwhatmannertheshipwasgoingtogodown.
IfI'mAndrews,I'mmakingdamnedsureSmithknowstoleavethosedoorsopen.ItwouldhavetakenTITANIC
hourslongertosink:there'sareallygoodchancepeoplewouldhavebeenstillonboardbythetimeCARPATHIA
wendedherwaythroughthebergfield.
ThiswastobeE.J.Smith'sfinalvoyage:hemayhavebeendeemedexpendable.TheonlythingIcan'tjigger
intothisisamotive.Whobenefitsfromsuchalossoflife...andwealth?
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[] yea_tht_dnt_go_there undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Insurancescambraj.
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Andhowisthatexactly?LetsjustsayI'manidiotwhoneedssentencesdisectedinordertounderstandtheir
meaning...pleaseexplainthisforme.
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[] strange_cargo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asfaras9/11,structuralsteeldoesn'tneedtomelt,itjustneedstoloosestrength,andthat'sexactlywhat
happenedtotheWTCbuildings.Fireproofingwasblownoffstructuralsteel,jetfuelfiresraged,affected
steellostmostofitsstrength,collapse.Inotherwords,it'sillogicaltoimplythatsinceburningjetfuelcannot
meltsteel,itmusthavebeensomethingelselikedemolitionchargesthatbroughtthebuildingsdown.
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Idon'tthinkyouunderstoodatall...
AlsoI'mnotarguinganyspecifictheoryoranything,theresnofuckingwayI'mgoingtofigureitouton
myown,butwhatIcanfigureoutonmyownisthattheresfishyshitwith9/11.Fartoomany
coincidences.Theresnaturallygonnabelostinfoandafewthingsunexplainedin
documentation/reportingofalargeeventhappening,buttheresapointwhereyousuddenlygo"waita
second...whatinthefuck...somethingsnotrighthere"
I'mnotgonnatrytoconvinceyouoranything,Idon'treallycareenough,itslessrelevanteveryyear
andevenifsomeonecoulddefinitivelyproveonesideortheotherisrightlifestillgoeson.
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[] ShivRa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
please,idareyoutoexplain
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[] ButtStallionn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thelogicisn'tquitethere.
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[] 0onimusha0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly!
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What.Pleaseexplain...
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[] I_suck_at_mostthings 2points
Sonofabitch...Weneedtospreadtheword.
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[] Chessen113 94points
Iknewit!Thanks,Obama!
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[] itsactuallyobama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'schill.
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[] CatDad69 4points
Bushknockeddownthetowers
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[] Geloni 2points
BinLadendidn'tblowuptheprojects.
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[] CatDad69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tellthetruth
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Didhe,like,kickthemrealhard?
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[] dudeARama2 672points
DonaldTrumpissecretlytryingtohelpHillaryClintonbydestroyingmoremoderateGOPcampaignsthatwouldhaveabettershotat
winninganationalelectionwithhiscrazyteapartydrivenmomentum.Andhekeepsuppingtheanteoncrazyandoffensivebehavior
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becauseithelpskeephimmovingtowardsbecomingthenominee,butmiddleoftheroadAmericawillnevervoteforsuchaclown,
thereforeHillaryfacesaneasilydeafeatablebuffoninsteadofthepoliticalmachineofJebBush.BenCarsonseesthis,thinksitisfor
realandtriestooutcrazyOphelia..
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ClintonisbenefitingfrombothTrumpandSanders.Trumpiscausingalltheseleftiststocowerinterroratthepossibilityofhimbeing
President,soitralliesthefearfulto"voteDemocratatallcosts"andtheleftistswhoarelesseasilyfrightenedarebeingroundedupby
extremist,moresocialistthanthouSanderswhohasopenlystatedthathewillendorseHillarywhenhedoesn'tgetthenomination.
She'sapoliticalmastermind,arealFrankUnderwood.
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[] dudeARama2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkHillaryhasalotofnegativeassociationsinthemainstreamAmericanmind,sohavingacrazybuffoonopponentintheformof
Trumpmakesherseemviableandverycentrist.
ThefarLeftlovesSandersbutdoesn'trealizethatLakeWobegonUSAwillfreakthefuckoutwhentheyhearthewordSocialistno
matterhowmanytimespeopletrytoexplainittothem,andyoucan'twinwinanationalelectionwithoutthebigandmostlycenterto
conservativeswingstates...
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Exactly,makinghertheperfectlevelofnationalisticandwarliketoappealtotheredstatevoters,andAnyoneButTrumpplus
SheepdoggedByBernieDemocratssupporther.
She'sgotitlockeddown.
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ItlooksliketheestablishmentistryingtogetbehindCarson,now.Theyflewhimtothemiddleeasttomeetwithabunchofpeople:\
Fiorinawouldbetherightchoice,andprobablywouldn'tevenbeaterriblepresident,ifsheactuallypushedbudgetreform.
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It'sallfunandgamesuntiltheynoticeHillaryhaslowerpollnumbersthanhim.
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[] ziggy1972 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'regivingTrumptoomuchcredit.
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Lasttimethisquestionwasasked,aboutaweekago,someonehadagoodtheoryaboutBenCarsonnotactuallywantingtobe
president,butwantingahighpayingjobatFoxNews.Sohespoutssomecrazy,failstogetthenomination,andthengetstheeasyjob.
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[] PugsHugsnDrugs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So,isthatareferencetoHamlet,orareferencetotheSimpson'sepisodeaboutHamlet?
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alittlefromcolumnAandalittlefromcolumnB
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andtriestooutcrazyOphelia..
laughedoutloud:)
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TrumpishelpingHillary...bytakingattentionawayfromBernie.
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[] PurpleUrkle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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WhywouldanyonewanttohelpHillarywin?
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TrumpwenttoChelsea'swedding,hascontributedtoDemocraticcampaignsinthepastandhasbeenphotographedlaughingand
jokingwithbothClintons,andisactuallyfriendswiththem.
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[] SeemsReasonable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BenCarsonislegitimatelyoutsideandaroundtheblockcrazy.He'slikeanidiotsavant.Bushisfarfromapoliticalmachine(there'sa
reasonheisn'tpollingwell,anditisn'tonlybecauseofDonaldtrump.).
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I'mnotvotingacorporationcontrolleddrone.Soitwon'thelpher.
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I'mnotvotingacorporationcontrolleddrone.Soitwon'thelpher
I'drathernot,frankly.ButIdon'tthinkAmericaisreadytogetpasttheSocialistword..bettertohaveaDemthatcanactuallywin
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Youcontradictyourself.Thereisrationallynoreasontocontinuevotingforcorporatecorruptedanddominatedcongress
members.IfthestupidlazyredditAmericansstopbeinglazyandstartmobilizingtovotefornoncorruptcongressmenand
presidentsthenyeahwecandoit..butbacktodownvotetrollinginstead..
Andasforvotingdemocratitfeelswrong...there'snodemocracyherenoristherearepublichere.
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Idon'tknowifIbelieveitthough.Imean,thelast2electionshaveshownthattherepubsaremorethancapableoffuckingitupontheir
own.
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THiswouldbetrue,ifSanderswasn'tthemostliklytogettheDemocraticnominationasofthelastcheckbynonHillaryfans.
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[] nevereverkarma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreewiththisassessment,nottomentionhehasnot/willnotgetbackedbythepowerswhocontrolthesuperpacs.Heispaintedas
"outofcontrol"butheismovingthechesspiecesperfectlytomakeJebanoncontestantintherace.
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Myplanshavebeendiscovered...
Iwould'vegottenawaywithittoo,ifitweren'tforyoumeddlingkids
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[] sevensidedmarble undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IagreetrumpisasetupbutIfeelhe'sactuallytryingtohelptherepublicancandidatebybeingsocrazytheothersseemliberalby
comparison.
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[] EnglishQueen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhBenCarson...
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[] Jay_Dee63 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Toobadhebeatskillaryinthepolls.Fuckthatcunt.
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Ithoughtthiswaspossibleforawhile,untilIstartedwatchinginterviewsofhimfrom~30yearsagoandhe'sthesame
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[] thenotoriouscrg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NobodyoutcraziesOphelia!
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[] c0mbobreaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thetop3candidatesareall"teaparty"candidates.Trump,Carson,Cruz.Togethertheymakeupsomethinglike60%ofthevote.If
Trumpwasn'therethenitseemsliketheywouldjustcoalescearoundoneoftheothertwo(very)conservativecandidatesthat
challengetheestablishment.
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RubioandCruzaretied,butyourpointisstillvalid.
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[] UranusIsBestAnus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snottohelpHillary,it'stogivehimthepowertoinfluencealloftheothernominees.Hewantstopushpoliticsinthedirectionthatwill
benefithisbusiness.Ifhisnumbersdrop2monthsfromnow,hecandropoutoftheraceandplaykingmakertoanyonehewants.
Andthatpersonwillalwaysrememberhim.
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[] psychosus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButnobodyoutcrazysOphelia.
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[] retnemmoc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NobodyOutcraziesOphelia!
IactuallylikethesongshesingsintheItalianversionbetter.
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[] prettyflamazing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HistoryshowsthatafterhavingaPresidentinofficefortwoterms,peopleleantowardstheoppositeparty.However,theotherpartyis
splitbetweenagroupofclownsandreligiousfanatics.WereallyhavenoclearideawhotheGOPfrontrunnercouldbeuntilnext
summer.
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[] Bigfrostynugs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myonlyissuewiththis:ifTrumpisreallyjustapoliticalplay,whyishefundinghisentirecampaignhimselfandrefusinganydonations?
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[] eraser8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifTrumpisreallyjustapoliticalplay,whyishefundinghisentirecampaignhimselfandrefusinganydonations?
Ifhe'srefusingdonations,whydoeshehavenotone,buttwodonatebuttonsonthefrontpageofhiswebsite?
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IguessIhadn'tkeptuptodate,heinitiallywasfundinghisowncampaignbutnowisacceptingdonationssuchasthis.Iwas
wrong.
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[] tempusfudgeit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatwouldyoudowithabilliondollars?
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[] GuapoWithAGun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisdoesn'taddressthepointintheslightest.
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Onehundredthousandhits.
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[] Furfaidz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bankruptyourcompany?
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Twogirlsatthesametime.
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[] pipsdontsqueak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FuckinA,man.
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[] joerobo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butdoesn'theknow?NobodyoutcraziesOphelia!
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PersonallyIthinkit'smuchmorelikelythatherepresentsasignificantandsizeabledemographicoftheUSthatunderatruedemocracy
shouldremaininthelimelightbraindeadcapitalistzombiefuckwits.
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[] ATC87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ipostedthisarticleinresponsetoacommenthigherup.ItakeittomeanBillClinton"suggested"herun,buttakeithowyouwill.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/billclintoncalleddonaldtrumpaheadofrepublicans2016launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8
3ae311e5b3ac8a79bc44e5e2_story.html
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[] goalie22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillClintonhaspubliclydeniedconvincingTrumptorun,buttherehasbeenatonofspeculationaboutit.Anditwouldtotallymake
sense,especiallyforhowsmarttheybothare.Trumphastoseethatheisn'thelpingtheGOP,andhehascontinuedonthispath
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EvenifTrumplegitimatelywantstobepresidentandlegitimatelybelievesinthethingshesays,Idon'tthinkhewouldgiveafuck
abouthelpingtheGOP.He'shelpinghimself.
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[] homemade_haircuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillClintonhaspubliclydenied....
Thatsoundssofamiliarforsomereason.
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[] McNerfBurger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itdependsonthemeaningofwhat"is"is.
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[] Furfaidz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BothonTVandLimewire.
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[] Spongebobs_Asshole 185points
Idon'tthinkit'sexplicitlytohelpHillary,butIDObelievehe'sdoingitoutofadesiretomaketheGOPeitherunfuckthemselvesor
becomeirrelevant.
Forthelongesttimehe'sbeenabillionairedemocrat,whichisfairlybizarre,andlikealotofwealthyDems,heprobablyhasthemindset
of"I'dbeaRepublicanifthey'djustrepresentmealittlebetterandnotcatertoFundamentalistssomuch".
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Hesbeenademocratsincedayone.HedidntevenlikeReagan.ithinkheishonestly,ademocratatheart.
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IDObelievehe'sdoingitoutofadesiretomaketheGOPeitherunfuckthemselvesorbecomeirrelevant.
Ithinkthat'scalled"accelerationism."Kindoflikeshootingyourdogwhenitgetshitbyacar.Highlysituationalbutabadideain
manycases.
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JustbecausehewasfundingDemocratsdoesn'tmeanhewasademocrat.Hesaidhimselfhegiveseveryonemoneysotheywill
owehimfavors.
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[] overthemountain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyisbeingabillionairedemocratsoweird?ThereareplentyofbillionairesthatareDemocratsoratleastleftleaning.
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[] lcav undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theycertainlyaren'tanticapital.Soitmakessense.
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Itsprobablytheformer.TrumprunningisshiftingtheOvertonWindowbacktotheright.
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[] notthatnoise3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"forthelongesttime"is,inthiscase,afewyears.He'sswitchedhispoliticalaffiliationprettyoftenovertheyears.
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[] nwatn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HewasaDempriorto1987.Soatleast20years,thenagainfor8yearsinthe2000's.
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Neverassumemalevolencewhensimplestupiditywilldo.
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Haveyouevenreadthejarjarthread?
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[] helpwhothefuckami undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthDarthBinks*
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[] himynameisjoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tassumeabillionaireisthatstupidthough.
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He'sanasshole,andsayssomestupidshit,buthe'sobviouslynotstupid.
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[] rider822 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhydopeoplefinditsohardtobelievethatDonaldTrumpisforreal?If25%ofRepublicansarewillingtovoteforTrump
basedonthepoliciesheadvocatesfor,itisreallythathardtobelievethatTrumphimselfcouldbelieveinthesepolicies?
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[] Another_Desk_Jockey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecausethenwehavetoadmitthatAmericacoulddriftinthatdirection.Anditmakesusfeeldirtybyassociation.
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[] Sushies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
25%ofrepublicansisabout7.5%ofthepopulation.Andaconsiderablenumberofthoseareattractedmostlyto
hispersonalityandbandwagon,nottheneonazithingshesaysandthecompleteabsurdityofhiscampaign.
That'swhatItellmyselfasIstruggletofallasleepatnight,atleast.
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funnyitellmyselfimjustmovingcountriesiftherepublicanssweepcongressandthewhnextyear,guess
wehavedifferentwaysofcoping
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[] MovkeyB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heisnotstupidthough.
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Thepeoplevotingforhimare.
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Iftrumpuswhatheseems,akaaracistdick,I'lltakethat10timesoutta10overbiblethumpingracistdicksthat
populatethegop
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[] Necrotos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthatwouldmeangettingridofthe'biblethumping'part.Soundlikeprogresstome!Notmuchprogress
butatleastit'ssomething.
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Here'sthethingabouttrump.WhenhesaysbatshitcrazythingsIputitat25%hereallybelieves,
75%pragmatictogetthecrazyvote.
ForanutjoblikeCarsonitsflippedandthatisutterlyterrifying.Iwouldn'thirethatcrazyfucktoeven
workafastfoodmicrowave.
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[] Calam1tous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right.DonaldTrumpisnotstupidhe'saprettysmartguy.
There'smoretowhat'sgoingoninhiscampaign.Idon'tthinkIbuythewhole"secretagentsentbyBillClinton"
consipiracy,buthe'snotwhatheseems.
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[] 789yugemos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itpainsmetosayso,butheisprobablyafairlyintelligentman.
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[] PatAunces undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justbecausehe'sintelligentdoesn'tmeanhecan'tsayanddostupidthings.
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[] VyRe40 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thebottomlineforpoliticiansisgettingvotes,andtogetvotesyouhavetowinthepopularitycontest.Tobe
popularinthisarena,youtypicallyhavetopanderandcompromise(andlie).Ifyou'resayinganddoing"stupid"
thingsyetyou'restilldoingwellatthepolls,thenyou'reobviouslydoingsomethingright...thatsomethingbeing
panderingandmanipulatingpublicopinioninfavorofyourself.Andyes,it'shistoricallyandscientificallyproven
thatpeople'sopinionsareregularlymanipulatedenmassethroughallkindsofmedia,oftendrawingmoderatesto
extremesinordertosolidifyanopinionbase,asevidencedbythelastfewdecadesofpartypolitics.
Butsure,we'reallsusceptibletoourmentalfailingseveryonceinawhiletoo.
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He'snotomniscientthough.
I'mjustworkingofftheassumptionthatpeopleareinherentlystupidnotinherentlyevil.Thatsaidsufficientlyadvanced
stupidityisindistinguishablefromtrueevil,sothere'swiggleroom.
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[] 0toCCto0toCC 21points
SecretServiceagentGeorgeHickeyshotJohnFKennedy.
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No,hedidn't,butit'swellpolisheddisinformation.Nooneheardashotfromthecarbehindthepresident,dozensheardshotsfromthe
grassyknoll.
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[] Im_not_brian 9points
I'veneverheardthis.Why?
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thetheorysaysitwasanaccident.
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[] Im_not_brian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthecoverupwastopreventhislifebeingruinedforamistake?
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Notsomuchacoverupasawhitewashingofthefacts.Thetheorydoesn'tdisputethatsomeonewasshootingatthe
PresidentitjustclaimsthatintheirreactiontoshotsfiredtheSSaccidentallyfiredthefatalshot.
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lolIimagineaSSagentkillingthePOTUSwoulddefinitelybecoveredup...especiallyifitwasanaccident,I
meanwhocouldtaketheUSseriouslyafterlearningthat?
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OhlordIneverrealizedtheabbreviationforsecretserviceisss.
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[] 0toCCto0toCC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
'JFK:TheSmokingGun'DocumentaryonNetflixexplainseverythingindetail.Ican'tsummarizeallthedetailsbutthemainideaisit
wasafreakaccidentthatheaccidentlypulledthetriggerwhileraisinghisgun.
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[] kateshakes 1499points
Ifyougoto/r/flatearthyou'llfindthatconspiracyisdefinitelytrue....
They'reallsocertainofitit'shilarious
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IreadonediscussionabouttheFlatEarthians,andthereasoningbehinditwas,theyaretheretoquestionwhatwethinktoknowabout
lifeandEarth,buthaveonlycircumstantialevidenceabout.
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[] f_ranz1224 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
90%ofthosepostsaremockingthesub.Prettysurethesubismadeupofpeoplejusttomockthesub
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There'sanothersub,/r/theworldisflat.AndIthinktheymade1or2moreafterthosegotinvadedbynoncrazypeople(bothtimesIthink
itwasactually/r/AskRedditthreads).
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[] cldvrg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinktheyareall,some300trolls,trollingaroundtheedge
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WhatIloveistheguyonYouTubewhoisbelievestheflatearthersarefullofshit,becausetheearthisaring.LikeHalo.
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[] DeathbyHappy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IprefermyEarthconspiraciestobehollowandfilledwithdinosaurs
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[] DementedMold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'realltrollingyouknow
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[] Zantillian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisthebestoneyet
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[] taylrbrwr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,Iwentthereforabout5minutesandimmediatelythought,WherethefuckamI?
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[] Narwhalbaconguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Checkitoutrightnow,theentiresubisspammedwith"where'stheedge?"
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[] metastasis_d undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheFESwebsiteusedtobeawesome.WhenIjoinedtheysentmeabigmetalcointhatissupposedtobetheactualshapeofthe
planet.
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Igotbannedfromthere
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[] ShinyUnicornKitten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IgotintoafightwithmyuncleatThanksgivingbecausehehasbeensuckedintobelievingthisconspiracy.Therearepeopleoutthere
who100%believethisandaren'ttrolling.Itwasmaddeninglisteningtohim.
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[] postslongcomments undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatif"theflatearth"theydescribeisjustspacetimeandtheyperceivespacetimeinawaythatshowsit'sflatness,butweperceivea
3Dspacetimeandthuswe'retheoneswhoarehilariouslywrong.
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Oryou'retakingitatadtooserious)
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[] Fake_pokemon_card undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also/r/theworldisflat
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GoodexampleofOccam'sRazor.
Fromtheirperspective,dotheyREALLYbelieveitispossibletogetthevastmajorityofthepeopleonearthtobelieveawrongtheory?
Aretheyreallytheonlyonesthataresmartenoughtoquestionit?Common,peoplearefreethinkers.
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[] lokioki13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theflatearththeoryisbyfarthemostimportantthingwehaveaspeople.Themoreyoulook,themoreyoufind.Itistheultimate
conspiracytheory.
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[] Money_Pockets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You...youknowit'satrollsub,right??
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Ithoughtthatwasaphilosophicalgroupwhoraisethechallengeofdisprovingthembyyourself.Usingonlyyourownknowledge.It's
likeaskingpeoplehowzipperswork.You'vebeenaroundthemyourentirelifeanmostofuscan'texplainhowtheywork.
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[] Goldberg31415 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/communismThatsubisworrisomewhenpeoplecanbesoextremeandignorantofhistoryofXXcentury.Iwishtheyweretrollingbut
clearlymostofpeopletherearedeeplyrootedwithinextremeoftheextreme
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Myfatherbelievesit.Makesmewatchvideosallthetime.
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[] WallyHestermann undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howtheheckdotheyexplainsatellitesthen?
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[] alphex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/flatearth
Inoticedeveryoneisaskingwheretheedgeisnow,goodjob!
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[] kateshakes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanks,Idotry)
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Haveyoueverconsideredconspiracytheorythatthissubredditwasmadebytrollstotrollpeople?
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Yeah,andsomeofthemaretrolls,butalotofthemaren't.Yousoldcheckoutandofthearguments.
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I'vebeenlookingatitforthatlast30minutes,fascinatingreally...
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IthinkIaccidentallystartedsomething...
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Lookslikeamixofcirclejerkandtrolling.
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[] goodbye9hello10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllIcanseeispeopleaskingifthisisatrollssubreddit.
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No...Ididn'tbelievethesepeopleexisted,truly...Alwaysthoughtitwasaredditgagandshit...ButtheyIgotintoabigdebatewitha
friendofafriendonthesubject,heclaimedIhadnoscientificevidencetosupportthespheretheorybysayingnasaisandallspace
agenciesarealie,withfudgedpicturesthepostedpicturesasproof...Iwasdumbfounded..
Icanbuyalotofconspiracytheories...Butthistakesthecake
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HasanyoneinhistoryeveractuallybelievedtheEarthwasflat?TheancientGreeksnotonlyknewtheEarthwasround,butwereable
tocalculateitssize.ChristopherColumbuswasn'tuniqueinthinkingtheworldwasround,hewasjusttheoneguywhothoughtitwasa
lotsmallerthanitactuallyisandluckedouthardthatheranintoanothercontinent.
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Galileogotjailedforsuggestingtheearthwasround,didn'the?AlthoughthatwasatimewhenChristianityruledEurope.
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NotbecausehesuggestedtheEarthwasround.Hewastriedafterhemadeobservationswithhistelescopeandpromoted
Copernicus'heliocentrictheory.
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Excellent,thanksfortheinfo:)Haveanupvote!
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No,itwasbecauseheprovedtheearthorbitsthesun,nottheotherwayaround.
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Yeah,that'strue,butaskhealsowentagainstauthorityandsaidtheearthwasround
Galileowassenttotheinquisitionforaffirmingthattheearthwasasphere:thegovernmenthaddeclaredittobeasflat
asatrencher,andGalileowasobligedtoabjurehiserror.Thiserrorhoweveratlengthprevailed,theearthbecamea
globe,andDescartesdeclareditwaswhirledrounditsaxisbyavortex.
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[] NexusChummer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'samodernmyth.Nobodythoughttheearthwouldbeflatorconsideredtheroundearthtobehereticor
something.
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Idon'talwaysthinkconspiraciesarestupid,butthisiffuckingretarded.
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[] harpoon_fatties undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
moreretardedthanbelievingthatsubisserious?
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[] AMERICANFUNK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isitevenaconspiracy?Justsoundslikeatheorytome.
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[] Masterpicker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hypothesis.Atheoryissomethingthathasbeentestedandverifiedhundredsoftimesusingscientificmethod.Whereas
hypothesisisjustanidea,whichseemstobethecasehere.
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[] iamaquantumcomputer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sasecret:thewholethingisabullshittingexercise.Noneofthemactuallybelieveit.Thenumberoneruleistonotbreak
characterever
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TherewereacoupleofbrilliantFlatEarthsitesIstumbledonyearsagoandI'vesincelost.MyfavoriteonesaidtheEarthusedtobe
flat,butTVbroadcasterswerefrustratedbecausetheycouldonlyreachsomanypeopleatatime,sotheyreformedtheplanetintoa
sphere.Theauthorsaidthattheonlywaytofixthiswastodigadeeptrenchandthenunfoldtheplanetbackintoitsnaturalflatstate.
Thiswasfollowedbyphotosfromanexpeditionatabeachwithpeopletryingtodigthattrench.
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[] Oscuraga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
that's...strangelyadorable
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Itwasajoke
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[] Oscuraga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iguessthat'sthebeautyofgoodconspiracytheories.Poe'slawrunsamokoneverysingleaspectofthem.
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[] littlesackninja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whytheybanme:(:'(
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[] killdamnzade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kindalikethehollowearththing.
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Everyoneknowsit'swherethehobbitslive,duh.)
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[] Ultimate_Chimera undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andr/geocentrism!
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[] AlphaTrion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Arewesurethatisn'tatrollsub?
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/r/theworldisflatisabiggersub.Gotbannedrecentlyfromit)
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[] fairly_bookish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdidyoudotogetbanned?
Inoticesomeoneelsegotbannedsimplyformakingthisstatement:
Ijustdon'tunderstandwhatmotiveanyorganisationwouldhavetolieabouttheEarthbeinground.Thereisn'tone.
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This,whereIgiveareasonableexplanationforapieceofevidence(anicewall).Someonethenalsoaddedthathewastrying
tohaveanopenmindinthissubandIwasmakingthathard...
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[] fairly_bookish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesus.Someofthosecommentsaremindbogglingretarded.
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Iknow,it'sliterallythemdeliberatelychoosingtoignorehowtheworldworks...
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Iknow,it'sliterallythemdeliberatoychoosingtoignorehowtheworldworks...
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Mostexcellent!!
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[] speaks_in_redundancy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thoseguysaresodumb.Theearthcan'tbebothflat,it'sHollow.
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[] jakeburgher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AhighschoolChemteacherhaduswatchafilmontheFlatEarthSociety.Hesaiditwastomakeusreconsiderthingswe'vebeen
taughtallourlives,andtoforceustomakeourowndecisions.
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Andyetstilleverysanepersondecidedtheearthwasalmostround.
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Ifounditinterestingthatsomeofthembelievethey'relivingonthecorneroftheworld.Likethat'sathingsomehow.
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Iknow.It'slikeinsanityistheirhobby.
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[] abobobi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itissosadactually.Whenyoucanproclaimmanypeoplefrommorethanathousandyearsago,whodidn'thave0.1%ofthe
informationwecanacess,weremoreintelligentthanthese''people''
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Agreed.It'skindoflikecreationism.Doesn'tmatterhowmuchevidenceyouprovidepeoplewith,somecan'tbeswayed.Ohwell,
it'dbeadullplace(ifslightlylessinfuriating),ifeverybodythoughtthesame.
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[] abobobi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Indeeditmakesroomfordebates.Ilearnedtonotjudgethesepeopletooharshlythoughasitisbutawayforthemtoprotect
theirmentalbalance.Justifiestheirsaying''Blessedarethesimplemindedformykingdomistheirs''
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Haha,yeahIcouldn'tagreemore.
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[] eve6bitches undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welpthatsenoughinternetfortoday
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I'mgonnagiveyouanicknamefromyourusername,
Bitch,please,youain'tseennothingyet)
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[] TheHornyToothbrush undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theirsidebarspecificallystatesnottoaskquestionssuchaswheretheedgeis.Areyoukiddingme?That'sabigfuckingdeal!
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[] dynamothrope undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
aflatEarthhastohaveanedge,buttheuniversedoesn'tneedone
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ButwherewouldtheRestaurantgo?
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[] Walripus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididsomeresearchonthemawhileback,andIIRC,theybelievethattheearthisshapedkindoflikethis,withAntarcticabeinga
giantplateauthatcontinuesinfinitely.
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[] CorteReal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneofthe4cornersisneartowhereIlive!TheGovernmentevenmadeatourismadhighlightingit.
http://youtu.be/RMkM5Yja9u8
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[] Yrcrazypa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thesideisjustpastthegiganticicewallsurroundingtheentiretyoftheflatearth.ThesecretNewWorldOrdercabalhasarmed
guardsonsnowmobileswhoshootanyonewhocomesclosetopreventthesecretofwhat'sontheothersidefromgettingout.
No,I'mnotjoking.Someofthem(seemingly)actuallybelievethis.
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BANNED!
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[] GrantH527 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyone'sbrigadingthatsubrightnowaskingwheretheedgeis.Onward!
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TheedgeisgenerallywhereverU2istouring.
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Huh."Where'stheedge"is,inmymind,questions1through16and18through35thatIwouldask.
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[] idspispopd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sasafespace.Seriouslythough,that'sexactlywhat'spossiblewhenyoumakeaspacesafefromdebate,eventheflatearth
theoryseemsreasonable.
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[] thx316 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthetopthreadis"So,whereistheedge"
Topreply:"OntourwithU2."
Expectednothingless.
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[] gensyms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"TheEdge...thereisnohonestwaytoexplainitbecausetheonlypeoplewhoreallyknow
whereitisaretheoneswhohavegoneover."
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HunterSThompson
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[] palookaboy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LikeBodhiinPointBreak?
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[] meditate42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asfarasicansee,thereisnothingwrittenintheirsidebar.
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Sorry.Iwasthinkingofanothersubwiththathasit.
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[] TheredDane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,becausethereisnoedge!Theearthiseternalandneverending.Thereisnoedge,thereisonlyaperfectflatearththatextends
inallfourdirectionsindefinitely.chortle
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[] Spooky_Ghost_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sidebarspecificallystatesnottoaskquestionssuchaswheretheedgeis
"Heymanwe'rejustaskingquestions."
"Sowhere'stheedge?"
"NOTTHOSEFUCKINGQUESTIONS."
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[] K0mmon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyouatleastallowedtospeculate?
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DON'TASKQUESTIONSTHATCOMPLETELYFUCKUPOURTHEORY.
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[] lycium undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Historicallyit'sasoundstrategy
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[] BaldyJoyful undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheedgeisAntarctica.TheybelievetheNorthPoleisthecenterofthecircleandAntarcticarunsallaroundtheoutside.
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Whatifitsdonutshaped.Antarcticaistheundersideanditmergeswiththenorthpoleatthecentre.
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Typicalamericans,youbelieveyournorthisthecenter.....trullydelusional
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Iwillgivethemmoneytohoponaboatandsailtotheedge.Iftheydieonthevoyage,letitbe.
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That'sprettycool.Ilikethat
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[] Heavy_Medz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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TheeyeoftheFrostGiantwealllivein.It'sprettysimple,jeez.
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Thatwouldbesickasshitifitwastrue.
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Butwhatwouldhappenifyouflewstraightsouthtonorththroughthesouthpoleonaflatearth?
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[] presidentparrot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyisthecentercoldest?Whatcausessuchdramatictemperaturediscrepancies?
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[] Destructor1701 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ToquotethegreatCarlSagan(viaSethMcFarlane):
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd.
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[] mattstanton94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthenorthandsouthpolesaretheedges,butthey'rejustextremelysmallcircles
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[] stansteamer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewhodoesn'twanttogettooclosetothis.Isallspaceexplorationandexteriorpicturesofearthsimplyfakedand
aconspiracy,orareallcosmicshotsfortunatelyaimedperfectlyperpendiculartothesurface?
ThishasgottobethestupidestconspiracytheoryI'vecomeacrossinmymanyyearsonthisplanet.
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[] Presuminged undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
mymanyyearsonthisplanet
Flatplanet
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[] TexasTigah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewhodoesn'twanttogettooclosetothis.Lol
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Youobviouslydon'tknowwhatthefuckyouaretalkingaboutsir..Preparetohaveyourmindblownwiththeamazing
logicandscientificproofof...Theflatearthers..
Isatandwatchedabout30minutesonedaythinkingnonstop"thisisajoke,right?"...Nosir,theyarereallythatstupid.
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[] XxLokixX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yehtheythinkallspaceprogramsarefaked
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[] getjoacookie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheguyIbuypotfrombelievesthisflatearththingapparently.HewasgoingonaboutitwhenIwaslastover
actuallysoIaskedhimaboutspaceexploration,andwhatheexplainedisthatwe'resurroundedbythisdomedue
tohumansasaracebeingexiledandthat"evenalltherocketswe'vesenttospacehavejusthitthisdomeand
disintegrate".Sohebelievesspaceisreal,butalienshavecutusofffromit...likeinsouthparkorsomething.
Riiiiiiight...canIjusthavemyQandleave,pleaseandthankyou.
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Yep.That'stheFirmament,aninvisiblewallsupposedlyseparatingusfromGodandspace
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[] thefray777 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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HowdotheythinkGPSworksthen?
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TheyjustrefusetocommentaboutGPSbecausetheydontbelievesatellitesexist.
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[] thefray777 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthisisthestupidestthingI'veeverheard,seriously.
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[] paisleysghost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Agreedtheearthisround...andhollow.
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HowdoesGPSandsatelliteimageryandsatellitecommunicationswork?
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Seenthatquestionaskedalotthere.Theyrefusetocomment.Theybelievethatsatellitesdontexist.Funny
that,becauseiliveinAustraliaandtheISSpassesrightoverme.
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[] peanut_monkey_90 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthatarmedguardsarepostedattheedgetopreventsnooping/peoplefallingofftheEarth.
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[] Psycho_Robot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andpenguinsweregeneticallyengineeredtobeaneasytocatchfoodsourcefortheicewallguardians
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[] bdjumper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icegrunt?Isthatlikejoiningthenightswatch?
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[] peanut_monkey_90 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everynew"fact"abouttheflatEarthismoreentertainingthanthelast.
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[] Greencheeksfarmer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theedgeisthefuture,thepastthecenter.
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[] littlesackninja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifwearebeingfair,thismodeloftheEarthcould'theoretically'work,itisjustanotherprojectionofamap.
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[] TylerPaul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
6monthsofday/nightatbothpoles.Thatcouldn'tworkinthisscenario.
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[] very_old_guy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoIregularlyhaveteleconferenceswithfolksfromLondonandSingapore.Atthesametimeit'smorningherein
theU.S.,itisafternoonintheU.K.andlateeveninginSingapore.I'dliketohearaflateartherexplainhowthat's
possible.
ActuallyItakethatback.NoIwouldn't.
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[] Antithesys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Exceptthatcelestialobjectsappearanddisappearatthehorizon,whereinaflatearthmodeltheywouldsimplyget
fartheraway.
AllaflateartherhastodoistakeanairplaneandflyaroundtheArcticCircle,thenaroundtheAntarcticCircle,and
comparethetimeittakes.IftheEarthwereflatastheyassert,thenitshouldtakefar,far,farlongertocirclethe
Antarctic.
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Butiftheybelievedinthescienceofittheywouldn'tbelievethistheory.There'splentyofsciencedisprovingit,
andofcoursebeingabletophysicallyseeitnowfromspace,butifyoucanstillbelieveinaflatearthinmodern
times,doyoureallythinkyou'dbeswayedbyairplaneflighttests?
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[] Nerdanderthal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InterestingthatallthemajorgovernmentshaveaspecialinterestinAntarctica.There'sevenanAntarcticDefense
Force.Isaregularjoeallowedtogothereandtestthetheoryifhehasthemeans?
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[] kingsguarding undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcanapplytogothere!Mybestfriend'sdadwentforayearin2013,hewasn'tascientistoranything,he
didmanuallabour.Healsodidn'thaveatonofexperiencewithiceorsnoworcoldtemperatures,aswe're
Australian,buthemadeitthroughtheapplicationprocessallfine.
Yougotowork,though,there'snowayyoucouldfuckaround.
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[] Antithesys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydon'thavetoit'sanextremeexample.
Justflyaroundaparticularnorthernlatitude(45degreesN,say),thenaroundthecorrespondingsouthern
latitude.Iftheworldisround,itshouldtakethesameamountoftimeifit'sflatwiththeNorthPoleatits
center,itwilltakealotlonger.
Itdoesn'tevenhavetobeacompletecircumnavigation.Justsweepanarcbetweentwomeridians.Doitin
aboatinthePacific.There'splentyofwaysforindividualstodemonstrateittothemselves(noneoftherest
willbelievethem).Anyonewhoactuallycaredabouttheideacouldmakealittlebitofefforttodiscoverthat
aflatEarthisimpossible.
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[] MountainKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkaregularjoeasinsomerandomdudewhowantstobuyaticket.Butcertainlyregularpeople
cangoit'sjustthatyouhavetobeascientist.Iknowaguywhowenthehadsuchagreattimehe'strying
togethimselfsentback(andtoconvincehisfamilytolethimgo).
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[] H4Kek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowillstopyouflyingthere.
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Imean,technicallyyoucandoanythingwithenoughresources.
Antarcticaisaprotectedenvironment,butatthesametime,Ibelieveitisinternationalterritory,kindoflike
theocean.
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[] Theycallmesocks13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aninternationalterritorywithaninternationaltreatythat'sbeeninplacesincethe50sor60s.Itsthe
longestlastingtreatytodate,andIthinkthere'sdozensofcountriesthathavesigneditintheUN.
whouseaflatearthmapasaflag.
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[] Nerdanderthal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthere'sadamngoodchanceyougetstoppedbysomemenwithguns.
Thatwouldbeagreatyoutubeprojectthough.SailaroundAntarctica,measureandrecordthewhole
thing.Ijustthinkinternationalgovermentswon'tallowit.
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[] googolplexbyte undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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LotsofpeoplehavesailedaroundAntarctica,somehaveevendoneitsolo.
Alsotheoceanismassive,itwouldbeincrediblydifficulttostopsomeonefromcircumnavigating
it.
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Idon'tthinkthattherearemanymenwithgunsthere.It'smostlyscienceinstallations,andwhile
itiscertainlypossibletherearesomesoldiers,itwouldn'tbefeasibletosendapatroltostop
you.MorelikelyyoucouldbestoppedbytheNavyifyou'replanningonsailingaroundit,butI
reallydon'tknowthatit'snotallowed.
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[] NicknameUnavailable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exceptthatcelestialobjectsappearanddisappearatthehorizon,whereinaflatearthmodeltheywould
simplygetfartheraway.
NotifthediscreallyisspinningandthecelestialobjectsarejustpoorlyfocusedLASERsonlyshiningonpartof
thelandatatime.
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Ormaybetheworldismagic.
Imean,Idon'tunderstandwhygravityworksorquantumeffectsoranyofthatshit.Wejustalltrustwhichever
scientististhemostpopular.
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[] drakir89 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notreally,weusuallytrusttheentirescientificcommunityasawhole.Beforeanysignificanttheoryor
discoverygetswidelyacceptedmultipleresearchteamsaccrosstheglobehastodothesameexperiments
andgetthesameresults.Ifthosepopularscientistswouldsaystuffthatthecommunitydisagreeswiththey
wouldgetcalledout.
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[] Redhavok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notbeingabletopersonallyunderstandsomethingdoesn'tmakeitnottrue,wheneveryouletgoofan
objectinmidairitalwaystravelsdown,youcanmeasureandpredicttherateofwhichitfalls.Scientists
aren'tpriestsmakingupfacts,theyaresimplyobservers,themoreobservationsyoumakethemoreyou
know,orthemoreyouknowyoudon'tyetknow
Thethingaboutscienceisevenifyoudonotunderstandit,itstillworks,computers,internet,conveyor
belts,cranes,cups,catapults,telescopes,airconditioners,ovens,rulers,withoutsciencethesethingsjust
wouldn'texist,theywouldbeimpossibleobjectswithoutscientificreasoning
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Whycan'tsciencebemagic?Idon'tunderstandwhyalotofitworks,butIhaveseenitwork.Isn'tthatkind
ofthetraditionalfantasyviewofmagic.KeepinmindI'mnottalkingabouttherabbitoutofthehatguysyour
parentsmayhavetakenyoutoo
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Imean..Wedon'texactlyunderstandgravitybutwehaveaprettygoodidea.
ImagineyouhavemarblesspreadoutinanorbitalpatternonamattressThemiddlemostmarbleisthe
heaviestbyalargefactor.Becauseofit'sweightitpressesdownonthemattresscausingittocreatea
"hole",oncetheholeisthere,everythingelse,IEtheothermarblesactaccordingly.Similarly,theexistence
ofalargeamountofmassinspacecompressesthespacearoundit,causingotherobjectstoheadtowards
thelargerobject.
Itried.=(
That'sjustashittyElI5answer.I'mnotsurehowusefulitis.
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[] NicknameUnavailable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcan'texplaingravitybysaying"itworkslikegravity."
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YesIcan.
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[] smokeTO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettysure/u/generalgeorge95watchedthisvideoandwantedtowriteitouttosoundlikehe
didn't.
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[] CherrySlurpee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
plus,shadowsonthemoon,bro.
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What'sshadowsonthemoongottodowiththis?Imeantheycouldjustsay"themoonisroundyesbutthe
earthisflat"
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[] CherrySlurpee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftheearthwasadisctheshadowonthemoonwouldn'tbeperfectlycircular.
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[] ldthrowaway92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youguysarealmostasbadastheflatearthers.
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[] zer0cul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Unlessyouarespecificallytalkingaboutaneclipseyouneedtowatchthiswholevideo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vXWXqGmPCk
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I'mconfused.Doyouthinktheshadowonthemooniscastbyearth?
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Woahweird.
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[] Stellcraft 665points
AmItheonlyonewhothinkthattheyarealljoking?
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They'renotjoking,they'retrolling,hilariously.
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[] Fishyswaze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveabossatworkwhogenuinelybelievesthis.Niceguy,greatsalesman,butbelievesinsomefuckingwhackytheories.Really
funtolistentohimrantaboutthemthough.
ButwhatI'mtryingtogetatisthatyes,therereallyarepeopleouttherethatbelievethis.
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[] Walter_Bishop_PhD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/flatearthisjoking,butthepeoplein/r/TheWorldIsFlatareforreal
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I'mconvincedthatit's80%parody,20%legit.Iwanttobelievethatthereareatleastsomepeoplewho,in2015,stillbelievethis.It's
funnierthatway.
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Alargenumberareskepticstryingtouseitasametaphorforreligionsand/orothersupernaturalbeliefs.They'retryingtoshowthat
youcanmakeanythingseemplausibleandscientificallyvalidtotheuntrainedeyebytwistingstatisticsandcomingupwith
ridiculoustheoriesthatareimpossiblerefute.Whenyoudothatwithsomethingthatweknowtobefalse(theearthisflat)itexposes
howridiculousthosetacticsaretothosewhomightbeblindedbytheirbeliefs.
I'mprettysureit'salsoapopularexerciseamongdebateteams.Whenyou'retryingtoarguesomethingyouknowisfalseyoucan't
relymuchonactualdataandhavetostrengthenyourothermeansofconvincingpeople.
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It'spossible,butthereisalegitimateFlatEarthMovementwithwebpresencethat'sbeenaroundsincethedawnoftheinternet.
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IrememberreadingaboutthislongbeforeRedditexistedIdon'tthinkthey'rejoking.
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[] pm_tits_get_rating undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iheardit'smorejustathoughexperiment,liketryingtoreasontheirwayoutofanundeniablefact.
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[] Flatwounds91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysureitsathoughtexperiment.AtleastthatishowIfirstlearnedaboutit.Myphilosophy(KnowledgeandReality)professor
toldusabouttheFlatEarthSocietyaftertalkingabouthowpeoplejustacceptfactsandsciencethattheylearn.Thescientific
methodisstillabeliefmethod,althoughitismostlikelythebestbeliefmethodthereisasmallpossibilityofwhateveryoneistelling
youisalie.Haveyouactuallyflewaroundtheworld?Maybebutmostlikelyyoujustheardpeopletalkaboutitorseenpicturesor
videos.Howdoyouknowthatallthisistrue?Maybeyou'reonsomeTrumanShowesqueprogram.Orevenifyouflewaroundthe
world,howcanyoutrustyourownsenses?Whatifitsjustyourbrainlyingtoyoubecauseitmakesthemostsense,doesitmake
themostsense?
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Idon'tthinksodude,Igenuinelythingthey'refringelunatics.
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Theyare.Thereisagroupcalled"theflatearthsociety"that'sjustayoungincheeksocialgroup/affiliationthat'sbeenaroundfor
decades.I'msureafewofthemarecraziesjustthewholethingisjustabig"insidejoke"thatpredatestheInternet.
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Ofcoursetheyare.Somepeoplejusttakelongertofigureout,ifit'sajoke.
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[] echaa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkthey'rejoking
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Manyaren't.
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[] PapaBradford undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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However,thereisarealFlatEarthSocietythattrulydoesbelievetheEarthisflat.http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
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[] DisproveRainbowDash undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ihavetoadmitthatihavegoneontheremanytimesto'contribute'.imakeupthesilliestshitpossiblejustforfun,andseeif
anybodytakesthehook.
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[] bjb406 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwentthere,andcan'tseemtofindatopicthatisn'tsomeoneaskinghowtheycanthinktheearthisflat.
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[] BrosaParrks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No.
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redditislikeanonionofautism.
Verily,redditisanautismonion.
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[] Drugreeference undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyspecificallysaytheyarejoking
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Defjokingtheydoitatr/mendallaeffectaswell.
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[] BearyPotter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialwaysassumedthateveryoneonthatsubwasparticipatinginonebiggroupsatire.
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[] MisdemeanorOutlaw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitisoneofthosethingswereitstartedoutasajoke,thenpeoplethatdidn'tgetitstartedtotakeitseriously.
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[] GetOffMyBus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stillmightbefunnyforaminuteorso
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[] SharkBaitDLS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheflatearthonlinemovementhasbeenaroundsincebeforeRedditwasathink.AsfarasIknowitwasstartedasajokebutit
wouldn'tsurprisemeifsomepeopleboughtintoit.
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[] EonBlueAegis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthere'saruleoftheinternetregardingthisconcept.Itessentiallystatesthatthesethingsstartasajokebeforeahordeof
gullibledumbfucksgatherroundlikemothstoaflame
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[] TheBeardedMarxist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Someare,butsomearejustthatdumb.
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They'rejoking,justlikethepeopleon/r/mandelaeffect
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No,thosepeoplearedefinitelynotjoking.
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[] DoubleClickMouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwishIwasjokingaboutthespellingofBerenstainBears.
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[] 420nanometers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mprettysureyoumeantheBerensteinBears.
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GodIwishIdid.
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[] 420nanometers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tevenknowhowthat'spossible...
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[] Clockwork_Heart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sagreatexampleofPoe'sLaw.
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[] cacp47at undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheproblemwithparodystuffispeoplewhoactuallyTHINKthosewaysfilterinandsoonitbecomesimpossibletotellwhoisjoking
andwhoisn't.See/r/muricaforanexample.
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[] MrShartsHimself undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyarejoking,it'sthesamewayoverat/r/pyongyang
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[] VeryNaughtyMessiah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/pyongyangismoreobviouslyajokethough,asNorthKoreansdon'thaveaccesstoreddit(asfarasIknow).However
anyonecanbelievethattheearthisflat,soit'spossiblesomeofthemareserious.
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Idk,flatearththeorieshavebeenprettyconsistentovertheyears.There'salwayssomepeoplethatseemtobelieveinit.Alot
ofitjustseemstobemisunderstandingsofthingsthatareabittoocomplexfortheindividual.Likesomedudewasonthis
podcastcalledTheHighersideChats,andhekepttalkingabouthowyoucan'tseethecurvatureoftheearthfromanairplane,
sotheearthmustbeflat.Idon'thavethesciencewhatsitstoexplainwhythatisthecase,butmyrudimentaryunderstanding
isthata)theairplaneisn'thighenoughwherethecurvaturewouldbesignificant,perhapsjustaslightbendthatisnearly
imperceptibletothehumaneyeandb)theairplanewindowgivesaverylimitedviewofthehorizon,soevenwithyourface
pressedintothatlittlewindow,youcan'tseetheentiretyofthehorizonline,justasegmentofit,soyouwon'tseethe
curvatureinthatlittlesegment.
It'sprettybewildering,butwhenyougetfedfalseinformationasfact,thensomepeoplestartbelievingsomeweirdthings.
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IamhonestlysurprisedIhaven'tbeenbannedoverthereyet.
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[] Clever_mudblood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarenowbannedfrom/r/Pyongyang
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Maybeonthayspecificsubreddit,butIhavebeenbannedfromquiteafewotherflayearthsubreddits,theydefend
themselvesquitevehemently.
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[] Gjixy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/flatearthisdefinitelynotjoking.
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Notatall.r/pyongyangisoneofthelargestoutreachesofNorthKoreaintotherestoftheworld.BefortunatethatDear
LeaderhasbestowedRedditwiththeresponsibilityofmaintainingsuchararewindowintotheDPRK.
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[] Crisner62 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarenowbannedfromr/Pyongyang
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No,myateartherersexist...I'vemetthem...Theyreallyexist
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Ofwhichyouarenowbanned.
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[] PirateOldwin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhichremindsmeYou'vebeenbannedfrom/r/pyongyang
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[] 2RINITY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OurDearLeaderisnotajoke.Youhavebeenbannedfrom/r/pyongyang.
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[] Calamitosity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FACE
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[] Kittendorf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somethingsomethingr/pingpong
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[] DONT_PM_ME_PLZ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarenowamoderatorof/r/pingpong
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Youarenowmoderatoron/r/pyongyang
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[] goat_fucker_69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youarenowamoderatorof/r/pingpong
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[] robotwhumanhair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,YOUhavebeenbannedfrom/r/pyongyang
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[] eternallycurious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nou
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[] Here_to_frequently undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isn'titdearmarshal?You'llbeexecutedsoon.
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Youhavedefendedorgreatleader'shonor.Youhavebeenmademoderatorof/r/Pyongyang.
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[] doorkn00b undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ourgreatleader.
RooseBolton
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[] DoomsdayBlues undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhavecommendedsomeonefordefendingourgreatleader'shonor.Youarenowamoderatorof
/r/pyongyang.
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[] VelvetHorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavebannedallofyoufrom/r/pingpong.
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[] ThonOfAndoria undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhavedefiledourgreatleader.Youhavebeenbannedfrom/r/Pyongyang.
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[] VelvetHorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhavedefiledthenatureofmorals.Youarenowbannedfrom/r/pingpong.
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[] Harbinger17 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
overalltoppostbasicallyconfirmsit
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[] kateshakes 16points
Loadsofpeoplehaveaskedthat,buttheyrereallynot.Theyhaveloadsoftheoriesthathavehadalotoftimegointothem...
Crrayyyyy
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Someofthemarejoking,butthere'sstillpeopleouttherewhothinkGravityisascientificconspiracyandmakeyoutube
videos.There'snoshortageofpeoplewhowillrejectanythingandeverythingsimplybecauseit'swidelyacceptedandthey
havesomepsychologicalneedtogoagainstthemajority.
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[] kingsquidget undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait,I'mconfused.Howdotheythinkgravityisntreal?Whentheydropsomething,doesitnotfallforthem?Whatis
theirreasoning?
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Therearemanydifferentreasons,butmostofthemdon'tevenofferadifferentexplanationandaresatisfiedto
saythatgravityisn'treal,it'sjustsomethingelse.
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[] Qel_Hoth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyinsteadproposethattheEarthisconstantlyacceleratingupwardsat~9.8m/s2.
Alsothegovernmentisinontheconspiracy,soanyNASAmeasurementsofgravitationalirregularitiesaren'treal
evidence.
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[] Hybernative undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IftheEarthwereacceleratingupwardsat9.8m/s2sinceit's'creation'4.543billionyearsago,howfastwould
itbegoingnow(relativetowhateverisoutsidetheEarthinthiscrackpotidea)?
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[] Qel_Hoth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assumingconstantacceleration,theequationsarequitesimple:
acceleration
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velocity
distance
v = a = a*t + v0
x = v = (1/2)a*t^2 + v0*t + x0
Inthishypotheticalearth,a=9.8,v0=0,x0=0,andt~1.4e17(~3.1e7s/y,ageofearth~4.5e9y)
v(now) = 9.8 m/s^2 * (1.4e17 s) ~ 1.4e18 m/s
x(now) ~ 5 m/s^2 *(1.4e17 s)^2 ~ 1e35 m
Forreference,thespeedoflightisapproximately3e8m/sand1lightyearisapproximately9.5e15m.
Assumingconstantaccelerationandanageof4.5billionyearstheearthistravellingatandhas
coveredapproximately1e19lightyears.
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[] sexydracula undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theythinktheearthismovingupsowhenwedropsomethingtheearthisactuallymovinguptoit.Ithurtsmy
brainthinkingaboutthesepeople
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[] mystery1411 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Technically,Theyaren'twrong.whentwobodiescometogetherundertheforceofgravity,theybotmove
towardseachother.Butitisinverslyproportionaltotheirmasses.Sothethingyoudroppedmoves
more.Also,therearealotofthingsbeingdroppedatonce,sotherelativemovementoftheearthislesser
thanwhatitwouldbe.
Inspiteofthat,iftheyactuallythinktheearthismovingandthethingisstationary,itisalsocorrect.All
motionisrelative.Theyjustchosetheirframeofreferencedifferently.Weird,butnotwrong.
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[] sexydracula undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yesbutmostflatearthersalsodenyrelativity
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[] mystery1411 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,theyareIdiots...Butjusttoclarify,Iwastalkingaboutrelativemotion,notthegeneral
theoryofrelativity.
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[] h_p_bitchcraft 64points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyarejokingthough.It'sallaguisesotheycangotothepubfornoreasonandtalkuttershite.
Source:barmaidattheweeklyflatearthmeeting.
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[] RockStrongo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thissoundslikesomethingstraightoutof"GoodOmens"byGaimanandPratchett.
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[] OleGravyPacket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismakessense.IcouldseeitbeinglikeaweirdlyspecificLARPgroup.
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[] h_p_bitchcraft undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sexactlywhatitis.
It'slargelymen50+whouseitasanextranightofdrink.Theycananddominutetakingontopicsdiscussedsuch
ashowwelltheydoinginthestockmarketsandhowthey'repoolingmoneytogetherforshares.
Itseemstobeyoungerfolkthatactuallybelievethesocietyisreal.Theygetagoodlaughoutofit.
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[] 3kindsofsalt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AMAplz
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Icouldbitit'dbeboring.
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[] MMdomain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoushoulddoanAMA!
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It'dbeboringasfuck.
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Pertheirrules,itwouldn'tbeedgyenoughforme.
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True.Coulddoacasualamabutflatearthersdon'treallytalkaboutanythinginteresting
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[] Axes_of_Evilness 54points
JesusIwaslookingatsomeofthethreadsandallIcansayisbizarre.
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Ifyouwantbizarre,checkoutthesubredditwherepeoplethinktheygetaquestionwrongonaquizisbecausetheirrealitysplitinto
divergingtimelines:
/r/MandelaEffect/
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Butseriously...TheBerensteinBearshavemefuckedup...
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[] SantaStardust 218points
TheUSgovernment(NSA)istrackingeveryone'sphoneandcomputeruse.
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OneofmyfriendssaidthistomeyearsagoandIactuallylaughedathim.
Veryfoolishofme.
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That'snotaconspiracy.It'swellknowntobetrue.
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Yourfactsareold.IsawonthenewsthattheNSAwasturningofftheprogramtonight.Totallybelieveit.Wenowhaveourprivacy
back!
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Isthisevenaconspiracytheory?
OrdoIjustbelieveinaconspiracytheorywithoutknowingit?
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[] dragon_morgan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdisappointingitwaswhenmycrazyhippieconspiracytheoristcompositionprofessorturnedouttoberight
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[] homiej420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andimokaywithit.Iaintdoingnothingwrong.Thatswhatpeopledontget,ohhhthegovernmentiswatchingwhatidoohhhthe
government,wellyouknowwhat?Youthinkthegovernmentcareswhatyoudoontheinternetontuesdaynights?No.Aslongasthose
solitarytuesdaynightsdontinclude"i"and"amgonnadoxbadthingatyplace"you'rejustanotherfewbytesonsomeharddrive
somewhere.
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Sayingyoudon'tcarebecauseyouhavenothingtohideisthesameassayingyoudon'tcareaboutfreedomofspeechbecause
youhavenothingtosay.Youdon'thaveanyrighttogiveupmineoranyoneelse'srights.
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Youdoplentywrong.
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[] homiej420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohyeahiforgotiamaninternetdrugdealer
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Sinceyou'reokaywithit,justgivemeyourfacebookpasswordandI'lldoublecheckforyou.
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[] yommi1999 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiracytheory=fact
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[] thekvbear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatyoumeanbytracking?Likemonitoringthepagesyouvisit?Listeningtoyourphonecalls?Readingyourtexts?Orjusttracking
overalltrends,searchingforkeywords,andmonitoringcertainnumbers?
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It'snotaconspiracy.It'sverymuchreal:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013%E2%80%93present)
Eitherway...Theycan'tpossiblylistentoorreadeverything.There'stoomuchcontentoutthereforthemtodoso.Nonetheless,
theycertainlyhaveaccesstoallofit,andiftheychooseto,theycanmonitorcertainphonelines/emailaddresses,etc.manually.
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Theycan'tpossiblylistentoorreadeverything
Buttheycanrecordallofit.I'mprettysureyou'dbesurprisedhowsmallthestoragerequirementsaretorecordeverythinga
persondoes,types,andsays.
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Hehe.Iknow!That'swhattherestofmypostisabout)
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OhyeaIgetthat.Ijustthinkit'sfunnyanytimeIhearsomeonethinkstheNSAmonitorseveryone'sphonecalls.Evenifit's
justmetadata,that'sstillwaytoomuchdataforanyorganizationtoactivelymonitor.Collecting/storingisonething,
tracking/monitoringisawholeotherballgame.
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Yesbutifyouconsiderallofthesocietiesthatdidthisinthepast,itbecomesveryscaryveryquickly.
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It'saslipperyslope,though.
Asanexample...I'maMiddleeastern*chemistwithasignificantinterestinamateurcryptography.Iusedtoconduct
researchonthedetectionofexplosiveprecursors.
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TheprobabilitythatI'veneverbeentracked/monitoredispracticallyzero.Yes,Ihavenothingtohideandallofthat,but
itstillmakesmeuncomfortablethateverybodyinthegovernmentcanlookupmyfetishes.
MyparentsarealsodeathlyafraidofthefactthatIstudycryptography.TheykeeptellingmethatI'mgoingtoget
arrestedforit.Luckily,cryptographyislegalintheUS,butthegovernmenthascertainlytriedmakingitillegalatvarious
pointsinhistory.Therearealsoalotofcasestudiesthatdemonstratethatthegovernmentpurposelyweakens
cryptosystemssothattheiradversariescannotcommunicatesecurely.Finally,themostpopularcryptographichash
function(SHA2),whichisoftenusedtostorepasswordsinlargedatabases,wasdesignedbytheNSA.Makeofthat
whatyouwill.
IkeepgoingbackandforthabouthowIfeelaboutthesituation.Iwouldcertainlytradeabitofprivacyforprotection
frominternationalterrorism.I'matpeacewiththewaythingsarenow.Butwithallofthatdatacomesthepossibilityof
furthercorruption.It'sterrifying.
*IwasborninIsrael
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[] HappyHapless undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itstillmakesmeuncomfortablethateverybodyinthegovernmentcanlookupmyfetishes.
Iwouldbeterrifiedinyourposition.
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[] supertaco_12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyouwereeducatedintheMiddleeastandcametotheUSonaVisayouweredefinitelybackgroundchecked,
andprobablyhighlylikelythatsomeoneattheNSAcheckedyououtbutjustyoubeinginterestedinthosethings
wouldnotpiqueanyinterest.Whatwouldhappenisifyou'reincontactwithanyonecloselyassociatedwith
terrorism/countriesagainsttheUS/etc.
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IcametothestateswhenIwas8,gotmygreencardat12,andbecameacitizenat18.Assillyasit
sounds,IneverreallyconsideredthefactthattheNSAwasinvolvedinmynaturalizationprocess.
ThisconversationisactuallymakingmehappieraboutbeingintheUS.Thegovernmentisn'tperfect,but
myparentsfoughttheirbuttsofftogetcitizenship.MyparentsactuallyleftIsraelsothatmysisterandI
wouldn'thavetodealwiththepoliticalnightmareinthemiddleeast.MysistermovedbacktoIsraelayear
agoandisprettyuneasyabouteverythingoverthere..
Meh.Iguess,allinall,IfeelsaferintheUSthanIwouldinIsrael.So...that'ssomething?
</Randomnonsense>
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[] supertaco_12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahyourparentsmighthavebeencheckedoutbutyouweredefinitelyofnointerest.Andasfor
now,theonlywayyou'dbelookedatisifyoucomeupincounterterrorisminvestigationsbut
American'sareprotectedfromalotofsurveillancebylaw,onlyveryhighinterestpeopleare
investigatedandonlybyafewveryhighlyscrutinizedgroupsthatrequirepermissionfromveryhigh
levelsofgovernment.TheNSAasawholeisonlyinterestedinpeoplethatareassociatedwithknown
terrorists/foreign"badguys",you'redefinitelyverysafeintheUS,muchmorethanIsraelIwouldbet.
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Imeanit'scertainlypossiblethatyouhavebeencheckedon.It'sevenpossiblethatsomeagencyhasafileon
you.ButunlessyouareaseriouspotentialthreatIdoubtthegovernmentwouldallocatetheneccessary
resourcesneededtoactivelymonitoryou.Thinkabouthowmanyemails,texts,calls,googlesearches,etc.That
yougenerateinjustyouraverageweek.Itwouldbeasubstantialcostofresourcestotrackjustoneverylowlevel
potentialthreat(nooffenselol).Nowmultiplythatbyjusthowmanypotentialthreatsthereare,andnotjustinthe
U.S.,buteverywhere.
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True!Thatmakemefeelabitbetter.
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GladIcouldhelp.
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NicetrySanta,butwealreadyknewthat
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[] bingooh 63points
Ifyousaidthis2yearsago,youwould'vebeencalledatinfoilconspiratard.Whoknowshowmanyconspiracytheoriesgetdismissedas
retardedrightnow,whiletheyaretrue.
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Anyonereallypayingattentionhasknownaboutthissincelike2006.Therewasanotherleakerthen(whoisstilllivinghereandfine)
whorevealedthetelecominfrastructuretheNSAhadinplacetotapcommunications.TherewasevenaPBSspecialaboutit,this
wasn'tonlycoveredinfringymedia.
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WellthetermwasinventedbytheFBI(orCIAdon'tremember)specificallytodiscreditandmakeastereotypeofloons.
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Here'sanotherone.Thepeoplecallingothersconspiritardsaretheonescoveringitup.Propagandaanywhereyoulook.
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Ithinktheideaofconspiracytheorieshasbeenpurposefullyturnedintoajokeinordertobandthingsthatareprobablytruein
withcrazytheories.
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Isthataconspiracy?/joke
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[] Aeto_the_Wizard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nonotreally.ThingslikeTORBrowserandotherproxiesexistedtocoveryourtracksontheInternetsincelongbefore.It'snotabig
leaptogofrom"everythingyoudoontheInternetcanbetracked"to"thegovernmentistrackingeverythingyoudoontheinternet."
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[] GetOrangePeeled 9points
Notprobablytruebutistrue.
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[] ilikeyourbutt69 590points
That'snotaconspiracy.Thatisadmitedfact
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That'sthejoke.
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[] IzzyNobre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhispointisthatanyonesayingthissome45yearsagowouldcomeacrosslikeaAlexJonesesquedelusionalparanoid.Then
cameSnowden...
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Hethoughtitwas2002foraminutethere,backwhenthatwasstillaconspiracytheory.
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[] Bind_Moggled undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iguesshewinsthethread,then!
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PeoplestilltreatmeasaconspiracytheoristwhenIbringthisupinconversation.EveneducatedPhDshavetoldmeto"gogetmy
tinfoilhat."
Asanaside,I'mafraidofapplyingtogovernmentjobsbecauseofthis.IspokefavorablyaboutSnowdenbackwhendetailsabout
theconspiracywerecomingout,andnowI'mparanoidthatsuchRedditcommentswillcomeupinabackgroundcheck.
I'mterrifiedofthegovernment:'(
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[] u_got_a_better_idea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tenyearsagoitwasa"crazyconspiracytheory"andnoonebelievedit.
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Conspiracytheory>Conspiracyfact
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[] CommentCalligraphy 13points
Thosetwoaren'tmutuallyexclusive
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[] maxiquadrillian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,theyaremutuallyexclusive.
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[] u_got_a_better_idea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdefinitionofconspiracyareyouusing?
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[] maxiquadrillian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Conspiracygenerallyimpliessecrecy.Astheotherpostersaid,itisadmittedfactthattheNSAdoesthis.Ithas
beenfor10years.Forthisreason,cannotbesaidtobesecretiveandthuscannotbeaconspiracy.
That'smylineofthinking.
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[] MrKoontar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
probablyanyonewhereitscalledasecretact
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[] 2211abir 30points
Conspiracyisusuallydefinedasasecretact,so...
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[] fractalfrenzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellitwassecretuntilitwasexposed,sothisisaconfirmedconspiracy.
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[] coopteleville undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItreallywascalledBerensteinBearsatonepoint.ItjustHAStobetrue.Ievenremembermyfirstgradeteacherpronouncingit
Berensteen.
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[] Jetkill_Fastmurder 3686points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iso,sowanttheDarthJarJarstorytobetrue.Thecaseissostrongandirrefutablethatitsaddensmethatitwillneverberealizedin
film.Itwouldbecoolthough,ifGeorgeLucasrevealsonhisdeathbedthatitwastrue.(hopefullysooner)
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[] iamthegemfinder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whatifjarjariskyloren
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[] Level3Kobold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustasYodahashis"bigreveal"whenwelearnthathistottering,geriatricgoofballpersonaisjustamask
Problemis,weknewthatYodawasaJedimasterwithin15minutesofmeetinghim.Andweknewthathewasn'treallyagoofballwithin
16minutes,whenhestartsconversingwithObiWan'sghost.
Idon'tthinkGeorgeLucashasthepatienceorgutstoplayoffhisprimaryantagonistascomicrelieffor3movies.Idon'teventhinkhe
wouldhaveplannedto.
Also,SidiousandMaularebothintroducedinEp1.IfJarJarwereaSith,thatwouldmake3operatingSithatthesametime,whichwas
neverathingintheoriginaltrilogy(andinEUcanonwouldbeverboten).
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[] AntonRuscov1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisconvincinguntilyouactuallythinkaboutitandapplyalittlebitofcriticalthinking.
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[] Spiderdan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecaseissostrongandirrefutable
UnlessyouconsiderthefactthatLucascouldhavejustwrittenaterribleandinconsistentcharacter.
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Thisisnowmyultimateheadcanon.JarJaralwayshasbeenandalwayswillbemyfavoritecharacter.
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[] acondie13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfeellikeI'mtheonlystarwarsfanthatdidn'thateJarjar
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[] dalr3th1n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ugh,thistheoryissodumb.JarJarisapoorlywrittencomicreliefcharacter.There'snothingsupportinghisbeinganythingmorethan
that.HemovestogiveemergencypowerstoPalpatinebecausePalpatinemanipulatedhimintodoingso.That'snotafantheory,that's
rightthereonthescreen.JarJarcanjumpreallyhighbecausehe'sfromafroglikespecies.He'snotusingtheForcetoshootdroids
withhisfootblaster,hecandothatbecauseit'sfunnyforthelittlekidsintheaudience.He'snothidinghisevilbehindamaskof
stupidity,he'sjuststupid.
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[] The_Man_of_Science undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Relevant:
JarJarBinksSithTheory
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Jesus,I'msotiredofseeingthejarjarshit.
Hewasnotintendedtobeasith.Hewasnotintendedtobeimportant.Hewasneverintendedasanythingmorethanexactlywhatyou
see.
AhandfulofmomentsinwhichJarJarisbasicallyjusttherewhilesomethingimportanthappensdoesnotmeanheisafrickensith
mastermind.
ForeveryexamplegivenofJarJarbeingan'evilmastermind'Icanthinkof5thatshowhe'sjustafuckingidiot.
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[] NealCruco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohmy.IwillneverseeJarJarinthesamewayagain."Irrefutable",no,butvery,verystrong!I'mconvinced.
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[] twotime_tangler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thetheoryjustmakesridiculousassumptionsovereasilyexplainablethingsanddeniesexplanationsdirectlygiveninthemovies,andit
alsoignoreshisdumbassactsthatcan'tpossiblybetwistedtobesomedarkSiththings
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[] incognegro6969 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieve.
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Iwasneversoldonthisbeforebuthatquoteyoulinkedhasmerethinkingit
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Misasucksass!
JarJar
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Someonereallyneedstohivethatguyabeerforhiscontributiontosociety
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[] Antivenom13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itreallyisn'tstrongorirrefutable.Hedodgesdangerbydumbluck.Everysinglebitof"evidence"thatthetheoristsforthisbringforthis
assumptions.
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[] ageowns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveanopposingtheory.IthinkLucasspecificallycreatedJarJartobeobnoxiousandletpeoplehatehim,thatwayallthefanboy
rageisdirectedtothisthinghedidn'treallylikeinthefirstplace.Thatwayyou'renotpickingapartthestuffhereallylikedandhopeyou
wouldn'tharshon.
Butwestillharshedonit.Midichloriansissodamagingtothemythos,inmyopinion,andtheacting,andallthegalacticsenatebullshit.
Butoneofourtricksingraphicdesign,ifwe'retryingtogetaspecific,andmayberiskydesignapproved,wesubmitafewawfulones,
knowingyouwon'tpickthose,andtheriskyonebecomesthebestchoicebyassociation.
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[] mycannonsing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iftherewastobeamajorballerofasith,whoisbeyondeventheemperor,thecharacterwouldbedesignedtobelessgoofylooking,
andmorejustgoofyacting.
Imean,GLhimselfsaidthenamejarjarwasbabybabblefromhiskid,andtheaccent,floppyears,tallstatureetc.weretoaccentuate
hisappealtokids.
NowaythatwasEVERplausable.
NowDarthR2D2?Thatismoreplausable.
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[] PM_ME_FAV_PICS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfGeogeLucastonedhimandanakindowninepisode1,itwouldhavebeenagreattwist.Anakinsaidoopstoomuch.JarJarspoke
toomuch.AllLucashadtodowassmoothouttheirdialogueandtonethemdown.Themoviewasnotasbadasitwas15yearsago.
DarthJarJarwouldhavebeenamazing.
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[] InsanityIsTrueSanity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'massumingJarJarwasoriginallysupposedtobeDarthPlagueis.
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[] Bigfatgobhole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Darthdarthbinksasshole
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[] dmowyd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ImighthaveachancetomeetGLinthenearfutureduetotheworkmywifeisin.IfIdo,thefirstthingI'maskinghimiftheDarthJar
Jarstoryistrue
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[] VirogenicFawn21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IstillmaintainthatthisisthestupidestfantheoryI'veheardsofar.
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[] MemoMii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohwowthatwouldhavebeensoawesome.
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[] whubbard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yodasgoofballpersonalityisamask?CanSomeoneexplainthistome?
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[] silver_elite_swag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieve.
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[] ApocaRUFF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mjustsaying,wehaven'tseenJarJarorLukeinthenewmovietrailers.I'mwillingtobetthattheDarthJarJarstorywillbecomethe
truth,andLukehasturnedtothedarksidejustashisfatherdid,withJarJarbeingthenewEmperor.
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[] betelgeux undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyissuewiththetheoryisthatyoucouldjustaseasilyclaimQuiGonJinnwasSith.Hedefiedthecouncilateveryturn(Dookumuch?)
disobeyedYodadirectlybytakingontwoapprentices,findingandrecruitingSkywalkerANDBinksANDhanddeliveringthembothto
Palpitine.TwistingKenobi'smindtofollowinhisdefiantwaystoensurethatSkywalkerwasprotectedandtrainedinspiteofthe
objectionsandthussettinguptheriseofVaderandtheultimatefalloftheRepublic.Evenhisdeathwastoensuretheunprecedented
reversalofthecouncil'srulingontraining.
Remove"Master"QuiGonand6wholemoviesceasetoexist.
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[] Isthisgoodenoughyet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsothere'sthebearensteinvsbearenstainconspiracywhereeveryoneremembersitasbearensteinbutwecrossedintoanother
dimensionwheretheonlythingdifferentisthespelling
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/theberensteainbearsconspiracytheorythat
hasconvincedtheinternetthereareparallel
universes&ved=0ahUKEwio1qyh2rTJAhVIOD4KHQMMCbwQFggmMAI&usg=AFQjCNETZD_BLa_YqKFwcXhRv5QOamhSOQ
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[] WebHobo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Mesaavengeyouanni"
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[] Blessing727 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thankyoufortellingmethistheory.I'veneverheardit.Ireallyhopeitpansout.
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Occam'sRazor.
GeorgeLucastargetshiswritingtokidsandmerchandisingsohecreatedasillycharacter.
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[] summercampcounselor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustasYodahashis"bigreveal"whenwelearnthathistottering,geriatricgoofballpersonaisjustamask,
Whenwasthat?
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[] krazykman1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alltheevidenceiscompleteshit.Their"evidence"isacoupleofcherrypickedmomentswherejarjardoessomethingunrealisticand
peoplearelike"ONLYAJEDIORSITHCOULDPOSSIBLYDOTHAT!!!!!!"
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[] CJRLW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThepossibilityoftheDarthJarJartheorybeingtrueisapproximately3,720to1.
Justkidding.TheoddsareWAYlowerthanthat.
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[] raindogmx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhavealwaysthoughtJarJarisametaphorforadifferentkindofevil:theevilofignoranceandthoughtlessness.
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[] dannighe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mybiggestissueisthatthemindcontrolonlyworksonweakmindedindividuals.Ican'tbelievethateveryJeditheymeetisweak
mindedenoughtobemanipulatedlikethat.
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OMG.Somethinglikethiscouldhavesinglehandedlyredeemedtheprequels.
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[] JordyLakiereArt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'tsaythisforsure,likeIcan'tsaythere'snogod,butI'mstillpersonally100%convincedthisisabsolutelyimpossible.Idon'teven
getthatpeoplearetakingithalfserious.Theargumentsaredecentlywrittenbutabsolutelyterribleifyoutakethemseriousandviewit
unbiased.
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YoupeoplegiveGeorgeLucaswwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyytoomuchcredit.
NotheoryofStarWarsdogmacouldpossiblybetrueiftoysalesaren'tamajorpartofit!
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[] fskoti undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThefatalflawofthistheoryisthinkingLucaslistenstothefans.
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[] Bike_Mechanic_Man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IcouldseethatthisiswhyGLcontinuestoinsistonJarJar'simportancetothestoryandhispersonalattachmenttothecharacter.
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[] Brownieman17 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExceptattheendofepisodeIwheretheystronglyhintatPalpatinebeingtheSith.Ithinkitseventhelostshotofthethemovieand
YodaorsomeoneistalkingabouthowtheythinktheremightbeanewsithandthecameragoestoPalpatineashissaysitand
ominousmusicplays
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[] pizzayolo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AfterreadingthetheoryIwasreadytobeconvinced.Butafterrewatchingthemovies,mostoftheargumentsseemedeasilycountered.
Theothersarejusttoofarfetched.Idon'tsayit'simpossibleforittobetrue,butsayingit's"irrefutable"isalittleunrealistic.
Moreover,IpersonallythinkStarWarsischildishandtheplotisprettyobviousandbland(Icanunderstandwhyitappeals,butwhyit
seemstobeoneofthemovieswiththebiggestfanbase,Iwillneverunderstand).IthinkgivingthatmuchcredittoGeorgeLucasisnot
justified,hedoesnotseemtobethekindforepicplottwistsandmeticulousdetails.Youdon'tneedtowatchthemoviestwiceto
understandeverythingandnotfeellikeyou'vemissedsomething,soaddingthatJarJartwistseemstoorandomanyway.Butthe
theoryisverycoolanyway.
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[] mendopnhc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
honestlydontthinkthistheoryisasgoodasyouguysthinkitis.
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[] Kevincas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"JarJaristhekeytoallthis".Allmakessensenow.
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[] iamnotadonut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmademynight100xbetterforsharingthis.Thanks.
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[] mirion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthDarthBinks
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[] Aero06 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItbothersmethatSethGreenmadethisjokeFIVEYEARSAGO,andnoonegaveadamn.
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[] flyafar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howthefuckdoesthatsubmissionhave~30,000pointsandI'veneverseenit?It'snotevenamonthold!
Wherewasitevenposted?wtfiswww.reddit.com/comments/??
Idon'tunderstand.IfeellikeI'mmissingahugepartofthissite.WhatelsehaveImissed??
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Ifthey'dpulleditoff,itwouldhavebeenamazing.EveryonewhomockedJarJarwouldhavelookedlikeatotalsucker.Iwishtheyhad
stuckwiththis.(Assumingthetheoryistrue.)
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Soyou'resayingthatLucaschickenedoutofafascinating(thoughmaybeinfuriating)plottwist,andwentaheadtomaketheshitshow
thatwasEpisode2instead?
Ican'tremembermuchfromEpisode2otherthaneveryonegearingupforabattlethatdidn'treallyhaveareasontohappen(ground
troopsfightingonabattlefield,inaworldofspaceshipsand(withinafewdecades)lasersthatcandestroyanentireplanet?Givemea
break),andtheneveryonehavingthemostlypointlessbattle.Therewassomemachinewith4lightsabersinvolved,thoughitdidn't
reallyhavemuchbackstoryitwouldbeeasier,cheaper,andmoreeffectivetosendaroboticbombaftertheJedianyway.
Therewasprobablysomepatheticromancethrowninthatwastoocringeworthytoremember.
DidIgetthestoryright?
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[] daeseries10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
strongandirrefutable
Ithinkyourdefinitionofstrongandirrefutableisalotdifferentthantheregulardefinition.
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YouareprobtrollingbuttheDarksideequivalenttoYodaisPalpatine(LordSidious)InfactyoucouldargueSidiouswasstrongerthen
Yoda.
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[] Kumrag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Godthatwasamazing.ThankyouverymuchforOpeningmyeyestothistheory
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[] mdkidd42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MisagonnaavengeyouAnni!!
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[] K3wp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenLucaswasaskedifhecouldbeanystarwarscharacterrecently,hesaiditwouldbejarjar.Besttrollever?
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Conspiracytheories
StarWarsfantheories
Basicallythesamething.:p
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[] Dubaku undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WowIdon'tthinkI'veeverseenapostthathasbeengildedthatmanytimes.
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[] Jetkill_Fastmurder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthere'sthepostthatwasgilded400times...andsomeoneateabulldickbecauseofthat.
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[] Dubaku undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Link?
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[] zold5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheDarthjarjartheoryisabsolutelynotirrefutable.Everysinglepieceofevidenceusedhasamuchsimplerexplanation.
WhileIadmitthetheoryisverywellwrittenandentertainingit'sblatantexampleofbendingtheevidencetofittheconclusion.Notthe
otherwayaround.It'sanattempttoredeemtheprequels,peoplewantthemtonotbetheshitshowtheyare,sotheylatchontothis
theory.
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[] jana007 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1. Ijustdon'tknowwhywewouldwantthistobetrue.ThatwouldmeanmorecontentfeaturingJarJarBinks.Ugh.
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[] Miqote undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireallylikethistheoryforafewreasons.
Ireallyfeeltherewasastrongcaseforit
It'sfunnyhowmuchitpissesoffalotofStarWarsfans
Ithinkit'skindofanawesomeidea,andit'dbeagreat"aha,gotcha!"moment
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IthoughtthiswasabitabsurduntiltheAMAwithJarJar'sactormadementionofthefactthatthepoorreceptionofJarJarinEpisodeI
resultedinsignificantchangestothescriptinIIandIII.Thatwasprettycompelling.
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[] badlymannered undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarBinksisPlagieustheWise.
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[] DrunkenJarJar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItdidnthappensoIstarteddrinking.
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[] mlbontbs87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoesthattheoryplayoutifanakinisthechosenonetobringbalancetotheforce?Ifthesitharestillaround,thenbalancehasnot
occurred.
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[] Indianasbastardson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msorrybutthisisstupid
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[] MatCauthonsHat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecaseissostrongandirrefutable
Onlyifyousufferfromconfirmationbias
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[] nihilinth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"JarJariskeytoallofthis."
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I'mgoingwithJarJar'sson.Imaginehavingafathereveryonethinksisajokeandbeingridiculedeverydayatschoolforit.Therage
anddesiretochangetheperceptionofyourfamilywouldbestrong.
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[] smiles134 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Idon'tbuyitbecausecharacterizationallthroughoutthefirstmoviewasgoofyandclumsy.Yodawascharacterizedasoddforallfor15
minutesatmost.
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There'salotofevidencesuggestinghe'sForceSensitive,zeroevidencesuggestinghe'sSith.
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[] Amphibialrabies69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'dbelikeBuuinDragonBallZ.Atoddlerwiththepowertoannihilatetheuniverse
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[] skatelaces undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon't.It'sdumb.
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[] holyheadharpy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
atthispointicanbelievethatthedarthbinksthingwaswhatwassupposedtohappen,buttoaddittotheseriesnowwhenthere'sso
muchhateforhim?ithinkit'dbefranchisesuicideandtheywouldn'triskit.it'sgonnabeoneofthosethingsthatcomesoutin
interviewsorinanartbookwithsketchesandideasthey'dcomeupwith,butit'snevergonnamakeittothescreen.
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[] 19katzesaugen93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireadthislastmonth,andreallywantthistobetrue!Thepersonwroteitsowell!Butafriendofminesaidthatyoucanalreadycheck
theIMDBtoseewhothevillainis(anditisn'tJarJarBinks'sVA).Alas.
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that'saninterestingtheory,buttheonethatseemsfarmorelikelytome,isGLsatdownandsaid
"Didn'tthisfranchisemakemecrazyrichonce?HowdoImakethathappenagain?
Ohright,toys.Let'smakeacharacterthatkidswillloveandwillmakeagreattoy."
"ButGeorge,whataboutcraftingagoodstorywithdynamicchar"
"TOYS=MONEY!"
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ItwouldhavesealedGeorgeLucasasthemostterriblescreenwriteranddirectorinhistory.Burntdownanindustryindustyr.
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[] xcerj61 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldbecoolthough,ifGeorgeLucasrevealsonhisdeathbedthatitwastrue.
Theonlythinghecanrevealthateverybodyknowsalreadyanyway,isthathehasnoideahowtomakeagoodmovieandthathehas
doesnotknowwhathe'sdoing
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[] reddit4getit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lookatthisguywithhisacclaimedmoviesandabilliondollarsinthebank.
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Itsalsofunnybecausetoparalelyoda,jarjaralsohasastrangespeechpattern.
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[] rodgercattelli undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon't.Ifitis,IowethatdudeayearofRedditgold.Gonnabeworthitifitis.
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[] alphawolf29 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BasicallytheMulefromfoundation
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[] dadsarmygoodshow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whenIwasyounger,Imadea"darthbinks"characterinlegostarwars.nowthisisactuallyathing...
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[] goalie22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecaseissostrongandirrefutablethatitsaddensmethatitwillneverberealizedinfilm.
ThevoiceactorforJarJartweetedthisamonthandahalfbeforeEpisodeVIIissettorelease.Dude,it'shappening
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[] RedWarFour undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwasajoke,justlikethenexttweetwhereheshowsapicofJarJar'sGreatAdventurescript.
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[] Bashlet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://darthjarjar.com/wpcontent/uploads/2015/11/AOTCRevised2ndDraft.pdf
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[] RedWarFour undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahthatwastheoriginalnameGLusedasajoke.
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[] Jennyasaurus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisthedarthjarjarstory?
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[] Fezzikk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveseenrecentinterviewsandLucasSTILLsaysthatJarJarishisfavoritecharacterever.Thishastobewhy.
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[] stinkmeaner92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whosadoesn'tloveJarJarBinks?
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[] Vittgenstein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItisalsoknownasTheMuletheoryorshouldbe.JarJarwould'vebasicallybeentheMulefromFoundation.
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[] Ethnologizer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwould'vebeenincredible
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[] Vittgenstein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfIwasLucas,Iwould'veownedit.Heundoubtedlyhastohavereadatleastonenovel,heardoftherest,andknowabout
this.Whynotcooptit?
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[] evenman27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJar'svoiceactormoreorlessconfirmeditonTwitter>https://mobile.twitter.com/ahmedbest/status/661221044712148993
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Idon'tlikethistheorybecauseIloveStarWarsandeveryoneIknowwhohasreaditistryingtoconvincemeits100%infallible.No,it's
somethingsomeoneontheinternetmadeup.
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No,it'ssomethingsomeoneontheinternetmadeup.
Tenmillionmonkeyswithtenmilliontypewriters...
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[] kellycblue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Doyouhaveareasonnottobelieveitotherthan"It'sJarJar!BLEGH!"?
Ithinkthemovementofhislipswhileothersaretalkingisaprettygoodindicatorthatit'strue.
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"Hestumblesaround,it'swushu"
"He,afrograbbitthing,jumpedreallyhighrightnexttotwojedi.that'saforcejumpandtheydidntnotice"
"Hewasexiledforbeingadumbfuck,butthat'sobviouslyimpossiblebecauseIsaidso"
"Hestuckhisheadintoathrusterwhennobodywaslookingbecausehe'ssoevil"
"thecgicharacterhaslipsmovingwhilesomeoneistalking,hemustbedoingsomethingsinister"
Noneofthesehaveanyotherpossibleexplanations,right?
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Everysinglereasonhasanotherrationalexplanation,ifit'sbyitself.Puttingthemtogether,Ithinkthetheoryholds
water.UnfortunatelytherewasSOMUCHgoingonintheprequels,itshardtospot.
Butthat'sjustlike,myopinion,man.
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ItisreallyreallyeasytomaketheclumsywritingandpoorcgiofJarJarintosomethingpurposefullydone.The
theorywaswrittenasajoke,theauthorskewingeventsofthemovietofithis'agenda'
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LikeIsaid,it'sanopinionofmineIhopeistruebecauseIthinkit'dbeawesome.
JarJar'svoiceactorAhmedBestdidseemtoconfirmitthough.
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[] Delror undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sfuckingtrolling,areyoukiddingme?Youthinkthattweetisserious?
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Thereasoneveryoneissoexcitedaboutitisbecauseit'snotjustsomethingmadeup,theykeepfindingmoreandmorethingsthat
they'rereallyexcitedaboutandintheirmindshasnootherreasonableexplanation,especiallycombined
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[] I_Download_Cars undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereasoneveryoneissoexcitedaboutitisbecauseit'snotjustsomethingmadeup,theykeepfindingprojectingmore
andmorethings
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intheirminds
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MessadaSithLordnow!
LordandSaviorJarJarBinks
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[] EltonBong 160points
GeorgeLucasisneithersmartnorcreativeenoughtohavedonethis.
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[] MustardTiger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sjustwhathewantsustothink...
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[] pyiotrich undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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soheisabillionairebecauseheisstupid?theprequelsweremadebadonpurposetodrawmoreattentiontothefranchise
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[] VanGoghingSomewhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButishesmartorcreativeenoughtoinventStarWars?
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[] mastersword130 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhewasn'tthenheneverwouldhavecreatedtheuniverse.Hejustneededitorsandpeoplewhosaynotohimwhenhebecomes
toridiculous.
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[] BarneyBent undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,he'sexactlysmartandcreativeenoughtohavedoneit.He'sjustnotsmartorcreativeenoughtohavedoneitWELL.
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[] HellonStilts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'stheultimateexampleoffanwank.IfLucasintendedthis,thenit'sanotherpartofthePrequelshescrewedup.Ifittakesfans
almost20yearstofigureoutsuchacrucialcharacterelementthenit'sprobablypixiedust.
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[] ZeePirate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedidntwritethenewone
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[] CleverUserNameGuy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItmakesmuchmoresensethatLucasjustwantedtosellactionfigurestochildrentowhomtheJarJarcharacterwasdesignedto
appeal.
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[] LoneEcho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mgoingtogowiththe"EddyMurphy"effecthere.IthinkGeorgehadkids,thenwantedtomakethemoviesforkids.
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[] jessemoforice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydoyousaythatthemanwhohaswrittenandproducedsomeofthemostacclaimedmoviesofalltime,andthenmanagedto
keepalltherightstothemfordecades,makingbillionsalongtheway,isneithersmartnorcreative?
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Idon'tunderstandwhypeoplesaythis.Yes,I'mawarehiswifedidagreatdealofeditingontheoriginalsandwritingandwhathave
you.ButthisisthemanTHATGAVEUSFUCKINGSTARWARS!HE'SCERTAINLYSMARTANDCREATIVEENOUGHTO
HAVEDONETHIS!
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[] bridgerdabridge1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThemanthatinventedStarWarsisn'tcreativeenough?
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[] Canadian_Caribou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThethingwiththeOTisthatiswasagroupeffortagainsttheodds.Althoughhedidcreatetheideaofpeopleinafaroff
galaxyitwastheadversityofthefilmingthatmadeitshine.Thestoryitselfisprettyaverage(youngkiddownonhisluck
meetsawiseoldmanwhohelpshimteardownabigbaddiewithamcguffenbomb)Itwastheeditor,theactors,thescoreand
thepeoplewhoquestionedandlucaswhomadethefirststarwarssogreat(andevenmoresowhendifferentdirectorscame
in5and6).Lucasbyhimselfisanaveragedirectorandalessthanaveragewriterwhichisprobablygoingforwhenhesaid
notcreative
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[] WatermelonWarlord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sanawfullotofcriticismfortheguythatwrotetheseries,includingplotlinesjustlikethat(thatYodawasn'tbumblingandwas
aJedi,andthatPalpatinewastheemperor).
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[] zoeypayne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlltheplotlineswerestolenfromancientGreekepics.
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Atonofmovieshavedonethesame.
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Ithinkthewholethingisalessoninsometimesartistsdon'tunderstandwhatmakestheirartpopular.
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Didyouhearabouthisexwife?
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no,why?
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Apparentlyshewastheonesteeringhimandgivingideasinthefirsttrilogyaswellasothermovies.
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Iwouldn'tdoubtthat.IlikeaskingmygirlfriendforherthoughtswhenI'mtryingtodosomethingcreative.
However,hedidwritethescript,andhespentalongtimeworkingonit.
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[] zgrove undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkGeorgeisgoodatcreatingtheplotlines,butisn'tverygoodatwritingthedialogueinaneffectiveway.That'swhyI
thinkEvenifJarJarwasmeanttobesomeSithLord,theymissedtheirchancebecauseGeorgemadehimsoinsufferable
theychangedthecharacterfortheothertwomovies.TobehonestIdon'tthinkthewritingwasverygoodintheOTeither,and
ifGeorgehadaccesstoCGIlikehedidfortheprequels,itwould'veendedupverymuchthesamequality.Theonlysaving
graceintheOTistheactionscenesandfightchoreography.Somuchemotionisconveyedinthelightsaberfights,butthat
would'veallgoneoutthewindowofGeorgehadthetechnologytomakethemflashier.
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Ifhehadisway,YodawouldhavebeennamedBuffy
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Thethingis,Lucasdidn'twritetheoriginalmovies'screenplaysandwhilehediddidcomeupwiththeverygoodideasin
thosemovies,healsocameupwithalotofterribleoneswhichdidn'tmakeitinbecausehewasbeholdentoothersholding
thepursestringswhowereabletosay"No,George,that'sstupidwe'renotdoingthat".
Theproblemwiththeprequeltrilogy(andEpisodeIparticularly)isthathedidn'thaveanyonelikethat,evenanyonewillingto
tellhimno(muchlessabletoenforceit),andsoalltheideas,eventhereallyshittyones,wentin.
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Iheardthatalot.Whataresomeofthoseideasthatdidn'tmakeit?
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ThisiswhatIthinkhappenedtoTheMatrix,also.Firstmovie:TheWachowskisareknownforexactlyonethingbefore
then,Bound,whichwasbasicallythestudio'swayofmakingsuretheycouldhandleTheMatrixbeforetheyinvested
quitethatmuchmoney.
Andstill,noonehadanyideaifthiswouldwork.Inthecommentary,theytalkaboutbeingsurprisedtheygottoinclude
asmuchofAgentSmith'smonologueastheydid.Soclearlysomeonehadsomeeditorialcontrol.
Thenitcameout,itbleweveryone'sminds,andthesequelsweredoomed.Everythingaboutthemoutstaysitswelcome
thefightsceneslastentirelytoolong,punctuatedbylongramblingmonologues,especiallySmithmonologues.The
metaphorofNeoasJesusextendstotheRealWorldforreasonsneverexplained,andisshovedinourfacesattheend
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ofthethirdmovie.TherobotlikenatureoftheAgents(andtheArchitect)isruinedbythesuddenhordesofother
programswithveryhumanlikeproperties,includingtherevelationoftheOracleasaprogram.
Thereweregoodideas,tooNeo'smeetingwiththeArchitectwasbrilliantbutIreallyfeellikethetiniestbitof
editorialcontrolwould'vemadetheseintoatleasttolerablesequels,notnonexistentsequelsthatIwon'tmentionagain.
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[] AerialAmphibian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisarticlesaysthatwhileGeorgewroteStarWars,hisexwifehadabiginfluenceandconvincedhimtomakesome
bigchanges.
http://www.syfy.co.uk/news/3wayswhichmarcialucashelpedsavestarwars0
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[] grandlarseny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GeorgeLucaswrotetheoriginalStarWars.
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Notwiththesortoffreereignthathehadfortheprequelsthough.Hewasworkingwithotherpeople,andhadto
concedetotheirideasattimes.Intheprequeltrilogyhewasthebossandwasbasicallyallowedtodoashe
pleased,withnobodyhissuperiortotellhimwhenideasweren'tworking.
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[] DisappearingWords undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Intermsofpeoplehelpinghimwrite,IhadanannotatedscreenplaywhenIwasakid.Iforgettheexactnameof
theperson,butLucasadmittedatthetimethathewasbadatdialogue.Alotofthebestlinesinthemoviewere
writtenbythepersonwhopolishedhisscreenplayforhim.
WritingthisoffthetopofmyheadatensecondGooglewouldfindthename,but,whatever.Hedidwritethefirst
movie,butthebestbitsofdialoguewerenotwrittenbyhim.
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[] ejeebs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'tithisexwife?
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You'rerightmyapologies.
Heydidhaveahellofalotofoversight,still,though.
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[] cacp47at undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'soneofthosecirclejerkbandwagonseveryonejumpsontofeelapartofsomethingandgetvalidationvotes.It's"cool"to
hateLucasandtheprequels.Youcan'tbringupStarWarswithoutsomeonegoingdownthisroadbecauseit'ssopredictable
andworkseverytime.
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[] TerdVader undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idisagree.Mymainproblemwiththeprequelsisthatabsolutelynorisksweretakenwiththestory.Yodagoingfrombumbling
tojediliterallytakes10minutes,andPalpatinebeingtheEmperorwasn'tGeorgesdoing.Palpatineasweknewhimwasn't
evencreateduntilRotJ.InESB,itwasawoman,andreplacedlaterwithIanMacDiarmid.TheideaofPalpatinerisingthrough
politicalrankstoachievepowerwascanonlongbeforeEp1cameout.Lucascantakecreditfor99%ofStarWars,butThe
Emperorisnotoneofthem.Hemerelyrodethecoattailsofwhatwasalreadyknownorspeculated.
Noneofthecharactersintheprequelsexhibitanysortofcharacterflip,noshamalyantwists,nothingunpredictable
whatsoever.ThattrilogyisbasedonafewlinesfromtheOTthatexplainaminutaeofwhatthegalaxywasbeforeEp4,and
buildsanentireuniverseonit.Heck,GLcouldn'tevenfigureoutwhattomaketheJediwearthatwasuniquesohedressed
themallinObiWansTattooinegarb.
TheOTisgeniusthough,IloveGeorgeLucas,I'mjustsayingtheguylosthistouch.
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[] TwoFreakingLazy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisguy'spostsuggestedthereasonforthechangeinqualityfromLucas'worksisduetothechangeinrelationship
withhisexwife
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I'drecommendingwatchingsomeofthespecialfeaturesordocumentariesoutthereaboutthemakingoftheoriginal
trilogy.
YouknowhowmuchoftheoriginaltrilogywasGeorge'sidea?Lightsabers.That'sprettymuchit.Notasinglecharacter
resembledhis'vision'bytheend.90%ofcostumedesignandscriptwritingwasdonebyothersthathelped,erm,'focus'
hisideas.Hell,heneitherwrotenordirectedEmpireStrikesBack,nordidhedirectReturnoftheJedi.
StarWarshas,fromthebeginning,beenanexperimentinmoviecrowdsourcing.That'swhatmadeitsoamazing,they
tookthebestideasanddesignsofthepeoplededicatedtothejobandmadesomethingamazing.Theprequelsfelt
shittybecauseGeorgeLucasactuallydidmakethem.Andheisterribleatmakingmovies.Really,namemeonegood
moviebesidesStarWarsorAmericanGraffitithatLucashasmade.
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Ihaveseveralcomplaintsabouttheprequels,don'tgetmewrong,buttheplotitselfwasgood.Brokendown,theevents
toldareallygoodstory.GeorgeLucaswassmartandcreativeenoughtocreateaSciFiepicpowerfulenoughtocreate
ademandforthoseprequels,andhewassmartandcreativeenoughtomaketheprequelsasetofmoviesthatwere
ambitiousinscopeandscale.
Unfortunately,itwastheexecutioninmyopinionthatwasthesourceofthecomplaintsformostfans.Whereasinthe
firstfilmsLucasmadehewasconstantlypressedfortime,money,andwaspressedbytheactorstogivethemsome
latitudewiththeiracting(whichlaterdirectors,liketheoneforESB,encouraged,likewiththe"Iknow"line),hedidn't
havethosestressorsintheprequels.Hedidn'thavethosemotivatingandlimitingfactorsthatforcedmoreoutofthe
boxsolutions.
Ithinkmostpeopleinvolvedwiththeprequelswerejusthappytobeinvolved,andsonoonereallyquestionedthelines
orinsistedonleewaywithactingtheirparts.ThatexposedwhatIthinkisGeorge'sweakness:clichedemotionalwriting
andbaddirecting.Lucasisn'tuncreativeintheslightest.Ijustthinkhedoesn'thaveagoodgripofthesubtletiesthat
makeforcompellingemotionsorgoodlines.ThismadeHaydenrobotic,sinceherarelygotscenes/linesthatweren't
designedthatway,itallowedthesillinesstoovertakethings,anditallowedforanyonethatdidinsistondoingthings
differentlytodothingsfortheworse(liketheactorwhoplayedPalpatinenotwantingtoactthroughaproperduelwith
theotherJedi).
But,Istronglybelievethatthereisagoodbackboneunderneaththecomplaints.Forexample,onebigcomplaintwas
Hayden'sacting.Istronglybelievethatwasn'tallhisfaulthislineswerestiltedanddownrightcreepysometimes.Butif
youlookatsceneswherehegetstobemoregenuine,theStarWarsspiritisabletoshinethrough.It'sjustthatnoone
reallyseemedtohavequestionedthedelivery.
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[] tedeschi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodexecutionofabadscriptisstillabadmovie.Ifyoumeantheplotwasgoodbydefiningplotas"thegeneral
ideaofarepublicfallingtofearandwar"thenyeah,Iguessyouhaveapoint.Theactingwasn'tgoodbecausethe
dialoguewasn'tgood.Thecharactersweren'tproperlydeveloped,nothinganybodydoesmakesanysense,and
there'snohumororhumanityinit.
HavingJarJarbeasecretSithorJedicouldbeacooltwist,butthefirstmoviewouldstillneedtohavebeen
writtenbetter.Iftheintentionweretorevealthetwistinthe2ndfilm,thatdoesn'tretroactivelyfixhowbad
PhantomMenacewas.
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Thegeneralideawasgood,asweretheplotpointsandtwists.Weallknewwhotheemperorwasbyvirtue
ofhavingseentheOT,butit'sstillagreatstoryabouttheriseofapoliticianandthefallofawarrior.Imean,
alloftheindividualplotpointsandoverarchingplotaregreat.It'sjustthattheexecutionwaslacking.
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[] TheRetribution undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
don'tgetmewrong,buttheplotitselfwasgood.Brokendown,theeventstoldareallygoodstory.
Whatwasgoodaboutit?
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[] meherab undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhateverymovie/bookis,ahugeuniversebuiltfromnothing.Yourcomplaintisbasicallythattheyweren'tsimilar
totheOT.Ilovedemandthebettereffectstoo.
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[] SPOOFE 306points
Yeah,everythingthatsupportsthe"JarJarasevilmastermind"hypothesisalsosupportsthe"Georgeshouldahiredawriter"
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hypothesis,too.
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[] Wazula42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HOWDEEPDOESTHISTHINGGO?
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[] superwinner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisapureandsadexampleofSWfanssodesperatefortheretobesomethinggoodintheprequelsthattheymadethis
shitup.
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[] blewpah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uh...Iuhhh.......
DarthMaulwasprettybadass?
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[] james9075 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Agreed.And,forthemostpart,thestorylinesweregood.Theywerejusttoldandexecutedreallypoorly.
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AnyoneforroastGL?
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[] ThirdFloorGreg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellyeah,that'sbecauseitallcomesfromtheStarWarsprequels.Thereisnoaspectofthosemoviesthatisn'tevidencefor
thatposition.
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[] Gjellybean 708points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lucashasnothingtoloseatthispoint.Hopefully,ifitisn'ttrue,he'llatleastrollwithitinthehopesthatitwouldsavesomeofhis
legacy.Imaginethefanboyguiltiftheyfoundouttheysunkthecreator'sultimatevisionofhislegacybecauseoftheirwhining.Wecan
onlyhope.
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[] art_ist_ter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
omgpeoplebashonLucassomuchforEpisodeIandIIIIactuallylovedthem,JarJarbecameannoyingwhenIwasplaying
PhantomMenacerepeatedlybutheisn'tthatbad.Whyarepeoplejudgmentalfcks?
also,thankGLthatheactuallytookrisktocreatetheoriginalstarwars,it'shiscreationdon'tbashitifyoudon'tlikeit
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Helpme,GeorgieLuc,you'remyonlyhope.
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[] Anvillain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lucashadunlimitedcreativecontroltoproducewhateverhecouldpossiblyimagine,inmyopinionhehadnoonetochallengehim
andtellhimthathewasmakingalotofbaddecisionswhenitcametothemovie,andwiththesuccessofTitanichewaspressured
tomakeitappealtoeveryone.JarJarisnotsomepartofamasterplan.He'saproductofthefactorslistedabove.
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Hebetterworkonsavinghisfuckinglegacy.Heonlycreatedoneofthemostpopularandbelovedfranchisesinthehistoryofany
artisticmediumwhichhassoldbillionsofdollarsworthoffilms,toys,magazines,books,comicbooks,bikes,lunchboxes,clothing,
toasters,wafflemakers,shoes,assortedpartyfavors,videogames,chopsticksandcountlessotherthings.Buthemadesome
moviesforchildrengrowncrybabiesdidn'tlike,sobasicallyhe'strashandhislegacyisruined.
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Attheveryleast,it'sournewhope.
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[] Kaarous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lucashasnothingtoloseatthispoint.
Oh,that'sverywrong.Disneyhasenoughlawyerstoburyhimaliveifhedecidestopopupwithsomethingthatcanbeconstruedas
devaluingtheirbrand.
Oh,andIwouldn'tfeelbad,orguilty,orwhatever.Hisvisionsucked,andhe'sashittywriterandshittierdirector.ThetwobestStar
Warsmoviesaretheonesthathehadtheleastinfluenceon.
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IliketoviewitasGeorgeLucashadgreatvisionbutpoorexecution.Whenheisn'tfullyinchargeoftheexecution,hisvision
isabletobeactualizedmuchbetter.
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Purportedly,EmpireStrikesBackisthefilmhedislikesthemost.Meanwhile,it'sthefanfavorite.
Ihonestlythinkhisvisionisn'tthatgoodeither.Itwasthesuccessofthepreviousfranchisethatledtonobodybeing
abletotellhimno,andthat'showweendedupwithAlienSamboMan,theMovie.
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[] kickaguard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldbehilariouslyironicifitweretrue.thecreatorofagalaxyinturmoil,tornbetweenlightanddarkwasforcedtochangehis
idealsduetohisfansangerandhisfearofthem.Angerandfeararethetoolsofthedarkside.
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[] whateverimbored undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfindthereasoningbehindwhyheabandonedDarthJarJarabitweak.ThewholepointofthetheorywasthatLucaswroteinaton
ofcluesthatJarJarwasreallyamastermind,buthedroppeditbecause....hehidittoowell?Hewaspoisedtomakeoneofthe
biggestcinematictwistsinhistoryandgotscaredbywhiningnerds?Thatmakesnosense.
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Idon'tknow.IthinkRowlingwasgoingto(andshouldhave)killedoffHarryPotterbutbackedoutbecauseofheryoungfans.
There'sjustsomethingpoeticabouttheboywholivedbeingrememberedastheboywhodied.
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Ithinkheshouldhavelived,butIdefinitelythinkthat'swhatshewasgoingfor.Herinitialideawassomethingalongthe
linesofaheroultimatelyhavingtosacrificehimselftokillthevillain.
Idon'tknowwhytheideadidn'twarmuptome,itjustfallsalittleflatforme.However,theideaofhimgettingdeusex
machinaedbacktolifewaskindofdumb.Whatexactlywasthepointofhimdyingifhewasn'tgoingtodie?
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[] Neospector undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peopleflipoutaboutthestupidestshitwhenitcomestotheirfandoms.
Plus,let'sbehonest:thetwistwouldworkmuchbetterifJarJarwasloved,nothated.Ifyoubuildupalovablecharacterthat
everyoneseesas,youknow,"lovablelittle<X>",andsuddenlyitturnsoutthey'rethebadguy?That'sahugetwistthatgets
peopleinterested.Like,"holyhell,weweresodistractedbyeverythingelsethatwedidn'teventhinkthischaractercouldbe
evil",likewhatMatsuiYuuseididinAssassinationClassroomwithKayanobiggesttwistintheentireserieswasacharacter
mainlyusedascomicreliefwoundupbeingavillainforoneofthestoryarcs.
Ontheotherhand,ifyoutrybuildingupacharactertobelovableanditdoesn'tworkbecauseeveryonehatesthatcharacter,
itchangestheoutcome.Itbecomesmoreofaslapintheface,like"theyspentallthistimemakingthatstupidcharacterandit
turnsouthe'sthebadguy?"
TheonlyreasontheDarthJarJartheorygainedsuchtractionisbecauseitcameoutafterthefactpeoplehadenoughtimeto
letgooftheirhatredofJarJar,atleastalittle,andstartconsideringtheprequelsabitmoreseriouslythantheyhad.
Inhindsightthetheorymakessense,butthereasonhedidn'tgothroughwithitisbecausepeopleweresoblindedbytheir
purehatredofthecharacterthateveninhindsight,thatpeoplewouldn'thavelikedthetwist.
Sohehadachoice,eithergowiththetwistandwatchthemoviebomb,whichcouldhaveshatteredafandomandwrecked
thefranchisebeyondrevival(notnecessarilywouldhave,butitwouldhavebeenabiggamble),orscraptheideaandsteer
intotheskid.Accordingtothetheory,hechosethelatter.
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Iunderstandthenuance.Istillthinkthisisaweakreason.Heestablishedtheentireframeworkandflusheditdownthe
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toiletbecausethe'fandom'hadn'tseenthefullpictureyet?Iftrue,thenhemusthavehadabsolutelynofaithinhisstory
telling.
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[] Nyeaustin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,"becausefandom"ishardlyapointwhenheaddedsomuchshittotheremasteringoftheoldones.
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[] Neospector undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkofitmoreasunnecessarycrumblingtothe"customerisalwaysright"mentality.
Hewantedtodotheplottwist,butcavedtothepressureofthefandom.
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ThisisGeorgeLucaswe'retalkingabout.He'snevercaredaboutfandom.Lookattheuproaroverthe
specialeditions.Didn'tgiveashit.He'smadeitveryclearthiswashisstoryandhe'lltellithowhewants.
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GeorgeLucashasnosayinwhathappenswithStarWarsafterhesoldtherights.ThereisnearlyzerochanceJJAbrams,and
whoevercontrolstheothermovies,thatsomethingasdisastrousasJarJarBinkswilleverreturntothemovies.Besides,most
peopledon'tconsiderepisodesIIIIasevenhappeninginthefirstplace.
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Besides,mostpeopledon'tconsiderepisodesIIIIasevenhappeninginthefirstplace.
Iwaswithyouupuntilhere.Suretheprequeltrilogygetsalotofshit,butit100%happened.
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[] Ickulous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostpeoplehuh,yougotsomeresearchtobackthatup.I'lltellyouonegroupthatconsidersthenewtrilogycanonandthat's
isDisneyBCbecausethey'restillmakingmoneyoffofthemerchandise.
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Atthispointhewillreadthefantheoryandtakecreditforitjustasafuckyoutothefans,sincethishasbeenhisbitterMOtothe
fanssincerejectingGreedoshootingfirst.
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[] LeonardPeikoff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
huh?
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[] DrewPickles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lucasdidthaveanythingtodowiththenewmoviethough,didhe?
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No
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Iwonderifhewouldevenbeallowedtocommentonitifitweretrue.WhenDisneyboughtthefranchisetheyalmostcertainlyhad
somethinginthecontractthatwouldpreventhimfrommakingcommentsthatcouldpossiblynegativelyaffectthefranchise.
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Whywouldthey?Honestly,Georgeprobablyhadtheupperhandinthosenegotiations.Hewassellingthemagoldminethat
since2005,wasalmostdormantsavefortheCloneWars.
HealsodidaninterviewrecentlywherehetalkedabouthisoriginaldraftforepisodeVII,whichDisneyturneddownbecause
theywantedtodosomethingforthefansinstead.Hebasicallyadmittedthathedidn'tcarewhatthefanswantedandonly
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wantedtodowhathewanted.ThewholeinterviewleftmewiththeimpressionthatStarWarshaslefthimprettybitter,
especiallyafterthereactionsfromtheprequels.
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Whywouldthey?Honestly,Georgeprobablyhadtheupperhandinthosenegotiations.Hewassellingthemagold
minethatsince2005,wasalmostdormantsavefortheCloneWars.
Becausewhenyoubuysomethingfor$4billionyougenerallywanttoprotectthatinvestment.IfLucassaidsomething
stupidthatdamagedthebrand,thatwouldbedisastrousforDisney.Itdoesn'tmatterhowmuchleverageLucashad
goingin,Disneywouldbestupidnottohavesuchaclause.Plus,it'sDisney.Ifthereisonethingyoucansayabout
Disney,it'sthattheyarefiercelyprotectiveoftheirbrand.
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[] secretfolo154 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butweknowinafewyearsifhediddoitthisthreadwouldappearagainandsomeonewouldsay"Ithinkit'splausibleGeorge
Lucasheardthe'DarthDarthBinks'theorythatwasonhereafewyearsagoandwaslike'let'sdothat'"
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I'dbefinewiththat.TheDarthDarthBinkstheoryisawesome.
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[] BananaTurd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wedidit,Reddit!!!!
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ReshoottheprequelsGoerge...OrDisney,wedon'tcare.
"JUSTDOIT!"
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Wemightdoit,Reddit!
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Allyousapeoplegonnadie
DarthJarJar
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(AnniheyAnniwhat'sahappentoyaface?)[http://youtu.be/EdS2kCUGvfo]
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Ifellonthefloorfromlaughingsohardatthatquote.Idon'tknow,buttheideaofJarJarsayingthatinhisvoicejustmademecry
fromlaughing.Thankyouforthat!
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[] CanoeShoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hedoessaythat....ThatisaqoutefromEpisodeone.
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[] lavozeterna undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamhereatthebartryingtoholdbacklaughterlookinglikeandidiot
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[] MiserableLurker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anakinentersroom
JarJarhidesredlightsaber,burnsownear...
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[] onnoj817 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"therehasabeenanawakenin.'hasayousafeltit?"
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Mesafinishwhatyousastahted!
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I'dliketoimagineevenhisvoiceisafront.Wheninrealityhehadadeep,guttural,creakinglyevilvoice.
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MaybeiftheygothroughwiththistheyshouldgettheguywhoplayedMufasainTheLionKingtoplayhim,he'sgotadeep,
boomingvoice
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HealsodidthevoiceforDarthVader.JamesEarlJones.
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[] Angry__Jellyfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JeremyIronsdidthevoiceofScarSourceTheLionKingcameoutin'94(tohelpinscrollingthroughhis
filmography)
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We'retalkingaboutMufasa.Notscar.Also,onmobile,howdoIlink?
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[] Angry__Jellyfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ahmymistake,istillthinkJeremyIronswouldmakeagreatvillainvoiceforevilJarJar.Ithinkitsstill
copypaste,fancyformatting...idunno
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Thatsthejoke...
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[] popopotatoes160 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iprefer"DarthDarthBinks"
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Justdarthbinksforme
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[] pinotpie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IpreferSithOverlordBinks
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[] colesitzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlikeDarthSnoakbetter.
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[] UCanJustBuyLabCoats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwillupvotethiscorrectioneverytimeIseeit.
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[] betelgeux undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarthSillious
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[] Mech_BB8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhytwoDarthsinthetitle?
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Becauseit'sfunnier
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[] Antarcaticaschwea undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Metoo.ItwillalwaysbeDarthDarthBinksinmyheart.
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[] newenglandredshirt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ahem."MeesapreferringDarthDarthBinks."
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[] Cycleoflife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iprefer"DarDarJarthBinksidious"
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Iloveyou
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[] injellyfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarthJarthBinks?
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[] Aydaanh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whytwodarths?
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Becauseit'sfunnier
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[] KhajiitsMom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkIjustfoundmynewaltname
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GarethGarethEvans.
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TobehonestmostSithnameswiththeprefixDartharen'talwaysfollowedbypartoftheirrealnames.AnnakinSkywalker
Vader.SoJarJar'sSithnamecouldbesomethinglikeDarthBoombasorDarthFishLizard.
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IalwaysthoughtCountDookuwastooweirdanameevenbySWstandards...IthinkthiswasJarJar'sDarthtitle:Darth
Dooku.
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[] Iceborg9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlikethesoundofDarthBombad
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None
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[] rokaboca undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieve"DarthDarthBinks"wasalreadyaseparatethingatthetimethistheorywaspresented.
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[] random_side_note undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justrollsoffthetonguenicer
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[] yParticle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tyoumeanGrayDarth?
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[] carolinemathildes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'sinfinitelybetterthanDarthJarJar.
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[] erogbass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
THANKYOU!Itriedtosellpeopleonitbeforetheycreated/r/darthjarjar,butnowit'ssolidified.
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[] MadlockFreak undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DarDarBinkistheSuperiortitle.
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[] NotYourMomsGayPorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasaconspiracylaidoutbyASHAinordertotriggersocialanxietyinspeechimpairedindividualswhowantedto
discussthenewStarWarsmovieswiththeirfriends,butcouldn'trepeatedlysay"DarthDarthBinks"withoutfearof
humiliationandsocialisolation.Thus,theseindividualswoulddesireadditionalsupportandtherapy,creatinganeedfor
morespeechtherapistsandcoaches,creatingaboominincomeforASHAworkersaswellasaboostingrantsto
continueresearchanddevelopmentonnewtreatments.
ThankGodtheplotwasuncoveredbeforepeoplelikeyou,/u/erogbass,couldprofitfromthisdepravedpieceofsocial
engineering.Youdisgustme!
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[] erogbass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notsureifollow...
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[] NotYourMomsGayPorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhatyouwantustobelieve.
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[] Konami_Kode_ 1212points
"Strongandirrefutable"isareallygenerousdescription.
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[] kactusotp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IntheslowmogifyoucanclearlyshowJarJarfallingtothe"wrongside"butthedroidshootsatwherehewasandthenturnshis
headtohisnewpositionhttp://gfycat.com/LinearAgreeableArachnid#?speed=0.5(offscreenforcejump)
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[] dragoneye undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagree,Ialsodon'tthinkGeorgeLucasiscapableofwritingacharacterthatissubtlycontrollingtheempire.
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[] Flexappeal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
didyouevenreadthewholefuckingoriginalpost?Thegoddamndetailisincredible
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Thedetailonthosedumbasscomatheoriesare"incredible"too,doesn'tmakethemstrongorirrefutable
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[] moondes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreethatit'ssortofatossupaboutwhetherornottheentiretheoryistrue,butitseemsthereisstrongandirrefutableevidence
thathewasatleastforcesensitive.
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EspeciallybecauseitcompletelyignoresStarWarslore.
AlsoIhatehowtheysayjarjarisobviouslyforcesensitivebecausehecanjumphigh.
JarJaristheequivalentofaspacefrog.Frogscanjumpprettyfuckinghighforhowsmalltheyare.Makethemlargerthanfucking
LiamNesonanditjustmakessense.He'sanalienafterall.
YoureallyhavetotrytoreachtoevencometotheconclusionthatJarJarisforcesensitive.Heliterallyalmostdiedbecausehis
tonguegotstuckinapodracer.Andnoonewasevenwatching.
ThefactthisisevenatheoryStarWarsfansgiveanycredittoblowsmymind.
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[] neS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,IwanttobelieveinDarthJarJar,butitreallydoesnotmakesenseincontextofthemovies,andonlymakessenseifyou
readthetheories,whichofthemselves,aren'tveryconvincing.
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Didyoureadtheinitialpost?Ifyouhaven't,pleasedo.Thewholething.Alltheway.There'snowayJarJarreallyisacomedicrelief
character.HereallydoeshaveahandinthewholeStarWarsstory.
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Justbecausetheguywrotealotdoesn'tmeanit'sirrefutable.Alotofitisstretchedbullshitanditignoresalot.It'safunny
theory,butit'sridiculoustothinkthatit'strue
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Theforcejumps,theforcewaves,andyoudon'tbelieveanyofit?
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Gunganshavestronglegs,sotheregoesthewhole"forcejumps"bullshit.Plus,inthebeginning,ifitreallywasa
forcejump(whichitisn't),surelythetwoJedistandingrightnexttohimwouldnotice
ByforcewavesIassumeyoumeanthegestureforforcepersuasion?Andbygestureforforcepersuasion,I
assumeyoumeanwhenJarJarmoveshishandswhiletalking(youknow,likewhatalotofpeopletendtodo
whentalking,especiallyinmovies?)
No,Idon'tbelieveanyofitbecauseit'salleasilyexplained
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Gungansarenotseentomakethosejumpsatanyotherpointinseries.JustJarJar.
WatchthebattleofNaboo.ProbablyaprettygoodtimeforatleastoneofthethousandsofGungansto
makeasinglejumptododgeawayorjumpattack.Justone.
ButthereareNONE.
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Becausetheydidn'tfeellikeputtinginextraeffortanimatingrandommooks,anddidn'tconsiderthey
neededtoprovethateverysinglegungancanjumphighincasetheoriesarisethatJarJarcanforce
jumpwithoutanyonenoticing?
Wait,maybeJarJar'sfeetareactuallyrocketboots!That'swhyhecanjumpsohigh!Imean,we
neverseehisfeetindetailafterall.DroidJarJarirrefutable
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extraeffortanimating
Soyou'resayingthatduringthe100kmanhourstoanimatethousandsofgungansbyhandthey
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[] TheredDane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Considerallthethingshedoes.SinglehandedlytakingdownDroidcarriers,havingwhatcanonlybedescribedasinsaneamounts
ofluck.
But...ifyouasktheJedi,thereisnosuchthingas"luck".
Heperformsamazingacrobaticfeats,suchasatenfeetjumpsomersaultwithnotrunningstart.
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[] Spiderdan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfJarJarhastheForce,sodoR2andC3PObecausetheyarebothextremely"lucky".
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But...ifyouasktheJedi,thereisnosuchthingas"luck".
Theprequels,contradictingthemselves?Noway
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[] ZDTreefur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salmostlikehe'sadifferentspecies.
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[] vanillachase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthere'snoevidencethatothermembersofhisspeciescandothesethings.
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Usinglackofevidenceasevidenceisridiculous
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[] NupidStoob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellasridiculousasmakingtheassumptionthatitwassaidtobeevidenceandnotjustafactthatsupports
atheory.
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"Hejumpedreallyhigh,it'sobviouslyaforcejump"
"He'sadifferentspecies,assuminghehasthesamephysicalcapabilitiesasahumanis
unreasonable"
"Butthere'snoevidencethathispeoplecanjumphigh(becausehisspeciesisneverreallyshown
doinganythinginvolvingphysicalactivitiesinthemovies)"
Whichoneisridiculous?ThisisalsoignoringhowintheEUgungansarenotedtohavestronglegsfor
swimmingandjumping.AndthisisalsoignoringhowtheCloneWarsjustfurthershowshow
ridiculoustheDarthJarJartheoryis
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[] NupidStoob undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Okaymybadheusedthewordevidence,butweknowthatit'ssimplyafactsupportinga
theory.Idon'tknowwhyyoufeeltheneedtotellmewhatswrongwiththetheorythoughasI
haven'tstatedthatIbelieveitornot.
Iamprettyneutralonthis,itwouldbeprettyfunnyifitweretrue,butIdon'tthinkitis.It'sa
prettyentertainingtheoryandsomethingsarejustveryhardtodismisssodiggingintoitisfun.
Justasasidenoteregardingthephysicalactivityyoubringup,thereisaprettyhugegungan
fightwiththedroidarmy.I'dclassifythatas"physicalactivity".Therewasplentyofroomto
displaythespecialtraitsofgungansthere.
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[] StonewallHaxson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?Noteven.The"theory"absolutelynotonlyfits,butactuallymakesthemoviesmakemuchmoresense.Andthemovies
literallyshowthebasicbuildingblocksofhowthisshouldhavehappened.
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[] LeonardPeikoff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imeanthepostisreallywellsourcedandresearched.It'sfarfetched,butthere'sdefinitelystrongevidence
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[] thecommentisbelow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andopenlyadmittingyourargumentdoesn'tholdwaterkindapokesholesinthecontainer.
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Ilikethatsaying,I'mgonnauseit,butIdisagreewithyourpoint.Redditisaplatformfordiscussingthings,I'mallfora
wellresearched,potentiallyplausiblediscussionaboutthingsIlike,evenifitsoundsreallydumb.
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[] URRongIMRite 942points
WhobasicallyhandstheRepublictoPalpatine?
SenatorJarJar.
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[] HowlMoonstone183 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imeannotactually,though.JarJarproposesit,butamajorityoftheSenatehadtovoteforit.Theyeachbearaboutthesame
amountofresponsibilityasJarJar.
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"JarJarisreallythekeytothiswholething."
GeorgeLucas
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[] HowlMoonstone183 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'ttellifyou'rejokingornot,butthat'sverymuchtakingthequoteoutofcontext.Thefullquoteis:
"JarJaristhekeytoallofthis.IfwegetJarJarworking...Becausehe'safunniercharacterthanwe'veeverhadin
anyofthemoviesbefore."
Here'sanotherGeorgeLucasquote.
"Hewasthebestdamncharacterinanyofthesixmovies.Hewasbyfarmyfavorite.Hewasfunny,hewaskind
andmoralandheendedupplayingapivotalroleinsettingthecourseoftheEmperorsactionsinmotion."
Funny,kind,andmoral?Doesn'tsoundlikeaSithtome.
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Doesn'tsoundlikeaSithtome.
Whichisexactlywhathewantsyoutothink!
heendedupplayingapivotalroleinsettingthecourseoftheEmperorsactionsinmotion.
NeedIsaymore?
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[] CoffeeIsAnAddiction undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imakethispointeverytimehe'sbroughtup
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BecausePalpatinemanipulatedstupidJarJarintodoingjustthat!It'srightthereonthescreen!Ugh,thistheoryissostupid
andI'msotiredofit.
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ExceptGungansareimmunetoJedimindtricks...
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Theycertainlydon'tappeartobe.QuiGonusesoneonBossNass.Also,Palpatinedoesn'tuseoneonJarJar.
Goodoldfashionedmanipulation."IfonlySenatorAmidalawerehere"pointedlookatJarJar.
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[] __KODY__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'thealsoageneralinEpisodeIII?
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Itrytoblockthosemoviesoutofmymemory.
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[] maxjp17 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
representativesenatorjarjar
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JarJarObama?
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[] steveryans2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Backstabbingsonofabitch!
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[] LordJanas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahbutyoucouldequallyclaimitwasPadmewhomadeJarJarherrepresentativeinthefirstplaceandwhohadPalpatine
withheronNaboo.
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[] AAAAAAAHHH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhocontrolstheBritishcrown?
Whokeepsthemetricsystemdown?
JarJar,JarJar!
WhokeepsAtlantisoffthemaps?
WhokeepstheMartiansunderwraps?
JarJar,JarJar!
Whoholdsbacktheelectriccar?
WhomakesSteveGuttenbergastar?
JarJar,JarJar!
Whorobscavefishoftheirsight?
WhorigseveryOscarnight?
JarJar,!
JarJar!!!
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hahahhawut?!
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[] snakespm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1183
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OldschoolSimpsons.
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[] juvenescence undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seriously,you'dthinkallthoserepresentativesintheRepublicwouldtakethisjivetalkinfishfrogseriouslyifitweren'tforhis
masterlevelSithpowersofinfluence?
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[] Mejari undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
But...Noonedidtakehimseriously.
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[] LaceratedCantaloupe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ExceptforthattimehegottheentireSenatetogivePalpatineemergencypowers.Palpatineusedhisfunctionally
unlimitedpowertocreatetheGrandArmyoftheRepublic(theclones),thenturneditintotheStormtrooperCorps
whentheGalacticRepublicbecametheGalacticEmpire.
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[] El_Monstero29 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InthisinstanceJarJarwasausefulidiot...notsomemastermindlol.
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Yeah,except...thatdidn'tactuallyhappen.Hegotmanipulatedintoinitiatingaparliamentaryprocedure.He
didn'tgivesomemagnificentspeechthatactuallyconvincedanybody.Theentireplanandsequenceof
eventshadbeenlaidoutaheadoftime.AllthewheelinganddealinghadbeendonebyPalpatineandhis
agentslongbefore.DoyouactuallythinkthattheonlyreasontheSenatevotedinfavorwasbecausethis
backwardsdelegatefromthisbackwardsplanetsaid"Isatheenkweshouldadodis"?Yourclipshowshim
sayingoncesentenceandthenlookingstupidlyproudofhimselfwhenthepeoplePalpatine
paid/threatened/cajoledtoagreewithhimclapped.Whatpartofthathishimgettinganybodytodo
anything?
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[] tpiddles121 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyoureadthetheorythenyouwouldunderstandthatJarJar'shandwavingduringthespeechisa
signofhimusing"forcepersuasion"techniques.
Idon'tagreethatthisisthecase,butifviewedintherightlightthetheoryhassomecredenceandis
actuallyfairlyconsistentinshowingJarJar's"subtle"useoftheforce,suchashisacrobatics,
"persuasionabilities,"andhisabilitytododgelasershotsthathecouldn'tpossiblyhaveseencoming.
Ithinkit'salljustcomicrelief,butthetheoryitselfholdstogetherprettywell.
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Nonononono,thelevelofexpertisemindcontrollingeverypersoninthesenatewouldtake?
Eventheonesthatcommunicatethroughflashesofcolorsandsmells?Eventheonesthatare
immunetoJediinfluence?
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[] Aardvark_Man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WeknowthattherearecertainracesthattheJediMindTrickdoesn'tworkon,andyouthink
therearen'tanyofthemintheGalacticSenate?
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[] shandromand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allwhileappearingtobe'clumsy'...
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[] Framnk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwouldthinkthatthetwoJedishewastravelingwithwouldhavepickeduponsomethingifhe
wassubtlyusingtheforcethewholetimehewaswiththem...
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halfoftheJediCounsilwasonPalpatine'sdickfor20yearsandtheyhadnoideahewas
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aSithLord
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WhendidanyJediintheprequelseveroncepickuponanythingaSithdid?
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IfyoureadthetheorythenyouwouldunderstandthatJarJar'shandwavingduringthe
speechisasignofhimusing"forcepersuasion"techniques.
AndIcanshowyouliterally50exampleselsewhereinthe6filmsofpeoplewavingtheirhands
anditnotbeingforcepersuasion.Thishandwavingisnot'evidence'.
Idon'tagreethatthisisthecase,butifviewedintherightlightthetheoryhassome
credence
Viewedintherightlight9/11wasaninsidejobandthemoonlandingswerefake.Youhaveto
seriouslyskipoverevidenceandtwistfactstogetthistobeconsistent.Whichisexactlywhat
theoriginalcreatorofthe'theory'did.Ifyougointoanywork,beitahistoricaleventorapiece
offiction,andonlypulloutwhateverfitsyournarrativethenofcourseit'sgoingtobe
"consistent",becauseyou'veignoredtheinconsistencies.
acrobatics,"persuasionabilities,"andhisabilitytododgelasershotsthathecouldn't
possiblyhaveseencoming
AllofwhichplentyofothernonforcesensitivepeopleintheStarWarsfilmshavedone.
Ithinkit'salljustcomicrelief,butthetheoryitselfholdstogetherprettywell.
Iagreeit'sallcomicrelief,whichiswhyit'sexasperatingwhenpeopletryandputitforwardasif
itactuallyholdstogether.
Anyway,it'sobviouslynotabigdealeitherway,causeit'sjustJarJar,butthewholethingpretty
clearlyduplicatestheconspiracytheoristmindsetfrommore"serious"conspiracytheories.
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[] Edible_Pie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhocontrolstheBritishcrown?
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colonelsanders
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[] Lyratheflirt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EmperorJarJar
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Whokeepsthemetricsystemdown?
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[] Lyratheflirt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJar,JarJar!
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WhokeepstheMartiansunderwraps?
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WhokeepsAtlantisoffthemaps?
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[] InsaneSlightly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarwasjustarepresentative.Padmwasthesenator.
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[] gsasquatch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnybodyvotingforJarJarisasrealisticasTrumpbeingaviablecanditate
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WouldPadmehavemadethesamevote?
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[] Aiurar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,shewasapacifist.Forthemostpart.
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[] yumko undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
droidlifesmatter
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[] CircleDestroyer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhattherepublicwantsyoutothink
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[] JMT97 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JarJarhadSenatorialvotingpowersinPadme'sabsence.
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Anditwasveryconvenientthatshewasn'taroundatthetime.
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[] rmiztys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heplayeduslikeafiddle.Likeafuckingfiddle.
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[] WowZaPowah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Argh!Heplayeduslikeadamnfiddleeeee!
FTFY
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[] scalebirds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AfternumerousattemptstoassassinatePadme
AndputJarJarinherspot
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HaveyouconsideredthatJarJarisliterallyretardedandjustkinda....doeswhathe'stold?Ihaveyettohear
asinglereasonbehindthis'theory'thatwasn'talmostexplicitlyexplainedasPalpatinesscheming.
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[] MilosVanFarfegnugen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WatchTPMandseealltheinstancesofJarJarclearlycontrollingasituationwhilePalpatineisonan
entirelydifferentplanet.ThenconsiderthatinbothEpisodesIandIVthereisamasterJediwho
iteratesthatluckdoesn'texist.
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AndshespentallthattimewiththeupcomingDarthVader,takingheroutofthepolicalpicture.
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[] gerogtiddly 14points
PaulMcCartneyreallyisdead.
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[] ch3rs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottrue,helivesinNewYorkonfifthavenue.LastmonthIsawhimcomeoutofadoctor'sofficeandjoinhiskidsinanuber.
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[] MissAnneThropist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everysongwriterhasamusicalsignaturetheycantrytohidebutcan't.Smoepeoplearen'tevenawareoftheirs.Paul'smusical
signaturehasbeeninallthesongshe'swrittennevenafterhissupposeddeath.
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[] MoveMeBrightly88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iliketheguytheyhavenowbetterthen.Theypickedafarsuperiormusicianthantheonewhowouldhavecrankedout"yeahyeah
yeah"musicforthelastfiftyyears.
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[] bungle123 43points
thisisacommentIsawin/r/beatlesthatmakesthattheorysoundridiculous
Really?WhatwouldittaketoreplacePaul?AllitwouldtakeistofindanexactlookalikeforPaul,whowasanaccomplished,left
handedguitaristandaprettygoodpianoplayer,andwhosoundedexactlylikePaul.Ohandit'dalsoincludetheabiltytowriteall
that'grannyshit'aswellasstufflike"HelterSkelter"and"WhyDon'tWeDoItInTheRoad?"Onceyou'vegatheredupallyour
candidates,youjustpicktheoneyoulikebest.Afteryou'vechosenyou'renew'Paul,'youdismisstheothers,makingthempromise
tonevermentionthistoanyoneever,nomatterhowmuchitmightbeworthinbooksales.And,ofcourse,youmustextractthe
samepromisefromhisfamilyandthehundredsoffriends,whichmaytakeacoupleofdays.Then,allthat'slefttodoisget
ScotlandYard,thepolice,themediaandtheguysyoupaidtorebuildthecartovowthattheytoo,willneverspeakofthis.See?It's
simple!
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YouforgotthepartaboutthemneedingareplacementPaulthatforgedoneofthemostimpressivesolocareersofalltime,more
enduringthanTheBeatlesthemselves.Onethatwouldbehappytospend45yearsmakinghundredsofmillionsofpoundsfor
himself,touringtheworldandplayingtoselloutcrowds.
QuiteanimportantrequirementandIthinkwhomeverpickedReplacementPauldidanexcellentjob.
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ORthisistheONEconspiracythatactuallyturnedoutwaybetterthanexpected.
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[] HLAKBR_Means_Love 6points
Theguythatreplacedhimmadereallygoodmusicthough...
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[] karanag 231points
Pornsitespromotemasturbationsothatsinglemenstaysingleandkeep'cummimg'back
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Thatcouldactuallybelegit
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Asadudethat'sinarelationshipandalsojacksitalot...what.
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[] AdelaideEnt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Broughtmeagood15minutesoflol's
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Evenwithagirlfriendimstilljackingit
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Whereareyouseeingpromotionsformasturbation?Also,didyouneverlearnthewhole..waituntilnobodyishomethinggrowingup?
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[] karanag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
b.but...thethrilliswhentherearepeoplehomeanddoingitrightundertheirnose...
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[] PMmeabouturday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?That'snotaconspiracy,that'sliterallytheirbusinessmodel
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[] matty2x4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jeez,acompanypromotingtheirownproduct,imaginethat.Whatwilltheythinkofnext?
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whydoesthatkeepmensingle?
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[] P15T0L_WH1PP3D undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoubeenreadingCosmo?
...Becausethere'sbetterstrokematerialoutthere,Ipromise.)
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Ithinkwomenmasturbatetoo
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No,wedon't.
Usually.Well,sometimes.Ummmm.
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[] SpaceFace5000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pornsitepromotemasturbation?That'slikesayingcarspromotedriving
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[] jf_ftw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisretarded.Whatmarriedmandoesn'tmasturbate?
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[] buffbodhotrod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jackinitdoesntchangeyourrelationshipstatus,alsoeveryguyiknowinarelationshipormarriedstillwatchespornandmasturbates.
Weoftentalkaboutthesethings.
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[] EarthExile 910points
Nobodyhastopromotemasturbation
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Masturbationdoesaprettygoodjobofpromotingmasturbation
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[] dudelurkslike_a_lady undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ammarried.Onlymasturbate.
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[] CaptainMudwhistle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowyoutellme.I'vebeengoingdoortodoorforyears.
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[] The_Man11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orporn.
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[] The_Thylacine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butwetotallyshould.ThereneedstobeanInternationalFapDay,sothatthestreetsshallrunwhite!
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Ireally,reallydidnotneedthatimageinmymind
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NOONESHALLBEABLETOSTANDBEFOREOURGLORIOUSWANKWAVE,THEPIOUSSHALLBESTRUCK
DOWN,THESUNSHALLBEBLOTTEDOUT,THETOWERSOFMANWILLPALEINCOMPARISONTOOUR
MIGHTYRODS!
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ohgodmakeitstop
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THEREISNOENDTOTHECUMPOCALYPSE!!!
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[] Dredly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
morestickwhite.
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It'llbeliketheGreatMolassesFlood,butfarsaltier.
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postmodernValentinesday
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Mother'sDay
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Butwhatifyourarmsarebroken?
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ThenIguessyou'dneedalittlehelp.
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[] CrustyButtFlake 103points
Honestlyit'sthousandsoftimeseasiertojackoneoutthantotakeagirlonadate.Thats..totallywhyI'msingle..
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[] doobiesaurus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,totallymetoohahahaha
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[] EricFackinulty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mcallingit"jackingout"fromnowon.Thankyou.
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[] CrustyButtFlake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sfantastic.Doyouhaveajackofficetodoitin?
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[] dylstew 44points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Atleastyoucanwhackitwhenyouhavesexualurges.Theendresultisthesame,youcum.Youcan'thoweverhavenonsexual
physicalintimacywithoutanotherlivingbeing.Nocuddling,nohugs.Well,youcouldhugobjectsbutitdoesn'tfeelthesame.You
alsocan'tbuildameaningfulromanticrelationshipwithoutanotherperson.
:c.
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[] PipPipCheerioSon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatisromanceanyway?
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Amiserablepileofsecrets!
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Youcan'thoweverhavenonsexualphysicalintimacywithoutanotherlivingbeing.
There'sthisthingcalleda"dog"...
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WhichiswhyIaidlivingbeinginsteadofpereon.Ithoughtahead:D.
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[] lightnsfw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icouldn'tdothosethingsanyway.
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Doyouhavesomekindofphysicaldisability?Imean,ifyoudon'tyoucanhugsomeoneifyoufindsaidperson.You
mightberightaboutthemeaningfulromanticrelationshipthing,thatsoundsdifficultasfuck,butI'veneverhada
romanticrelationship.
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[] Anarchofeudalist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
:(
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It'sokay,let'swhackittogether!Wait..Nevermind.
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[] ilikeyourbutt69 290points
Ammarried.Stillmasturbate.
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That'swhyyoudon'thaveagirlfriend
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[] Vocabularri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amdating.Enjoywatchingmyboyfriendmasturbate.
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[] 100metreDaschund undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm.Iliveacrossthestreetfromyou.Pleaseclosethecurtains.
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[] PathalogicalTire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhyUwatchsomuch?
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[] boarderman8 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...lots.Almostdaily.
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Ammarried.Watchpornwithmywife.
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[] danneh101789 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahseriously,whothehellthinksyoustopwatchingporn/beatingoffonceyougetmarried?
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[] mrsunray3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldn'tyoujusthavesexwithyourspouse?
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Becausemyspouseisn'tablowupdollthatwantstohavesexallthetime
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[] mrsunray3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Also,whyarewomannothorny?
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[] cottonbiscuit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Metoo.AndI'maladytoboot!
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[] NotAGangMember undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyoumean"Ammarried.Masturbatemore."
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[] ilikeyourbutt69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sactually:Ammarried.Haveakid.What'ssex?
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[] Superliminal42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ammarried.HavekidwithAutismSpectrumDisorder.Sexallthetime.Getyourlifetogether.
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[] PacSan300 117points
Youbetterbeflossingtoo.
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Thiscrackedmeup.Goodadvice,though.
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[] OfficeSpaceBalls undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'remasturbatingwrong...
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[] paradoxicalparrot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndquittheFacespacesandhitthegym,amirite??
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[] hovopotter 3points
"It'sanoldermeme,sir,butitchecksout."
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[] bupvote 0points
Wellweknowhesnothavingsexsoheprobablyhasalotoftimetodothingsofthisnature.
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[] Rudas_Iskariot 33points
Here,haveanupstroke.
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[] skullturf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...andthenadownstroke,andthenanupstroke,andthenadownstroke,andthenanupstroke...
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[] lvl12 1614points
Thereusedtobehumancivilizationmorethantenthousandyearsago,butrecedingglaciersandjusttimeingeneralhavedestroyed
mostoftheevidence.
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[] ANDERSONKELLY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'tbelieve1,433peoplehaveneverheardoffossils.
...wehavemanythatfaroutdatetheHolocene
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[] lvl12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fossilsdonotequalcivilization
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[] Irminsul773 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsinteresting,caretoelaborate?
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ThereisactuallyveryconvincingevidencethattherewasaquitemassivecivilizationintheAmazon,andthattheyliterallycultivatedthe
soilnecessarytohavearainforestlikewehavenow.Unfortunately,theyusedmostlywoodconstruction,soitrottedandfellapartquite
quicklyaftertheydiedout.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/09/05/AR2010090503740.html
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Thanksforintroducingmetothis
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[] absentian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RandallCarlson?
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[] Brandilio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So...TheplotofAssassin'sCreed?
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Uhh,notexactly
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Nobodydoubtsthis.TherearevariousneolithicsiteslikeTellAswadisfrom9000BC,GbekliTepeisfrom8000BC,atalhykis
from7000BCwhichwouldhavehadseveralthousandpeopleinthem.
TheyhoweverdidnotbuildthePyramids,theydidnottraveltotheAmericas,andtheyabsolutelydidnottraveltoAntarctica.
YoushouldreadwhatUmbertoEcohastosayaboutthesesortsofideasoflostgoldenage:
http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_urfascism.pdf
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[] PrometheusIsFree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idofindithardtobelievethatmodernhumanshavebeenaroundforabout200,000yearsandwe'veonlygotourshittogetherinthe
last7000maybe.Ittookus193,000yearstocomeupwitheventhemostbasicstuff?Evenchildrenbuildstuffandcomeupwith
creativeideas.Whatthefuckwaseveryonedoing?
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[] zeuph undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'ssomuchmoretothisthatstubbornmodernarcheologistsrefusetotakein.I'vefollowedGrahamHancocksworkforsometime
nowandhe'sgreat.
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[] buckus69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybetheyhadcomputersbutnotasweknowthem,andwehavefoundbutdonotknowthatwehavetheirelectronicmedia,andwe
can'treaditbecausewedon'tknowhowitwasencodedorwithwhattechnology.WhydidwesendagoldenrecordonVoyageragain?
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Wellit'sprovenalready.GbekliTepi.
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[] sylban undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therewerecertainlyhumansatthetime,andweknowaboutthem.Whatwecall'civilisation'referstotheshiftofaverylarge
proportionoftheglobalhumanpopulationfromanomadichuntergathererlifestyletosettlingdownintoamoreorlessfixed
communitiesandstartingagriculture.Thatshiftwasnecessitatedbyaglobalclimateshiftthatmadeformerlylushandfertileuplands
overmuchoftheworlddryandmuchlessfruitful.
ThelastIceAgeendedabout12,000yearsago,buthadbeenrecedingforthousandsofyearsbeforethat.Asaspecies,modern
humansappearedaround200,000yearsago,soit'scertainlypossiblethattherecouldhavebeenhumancivilisationsbeforethelast
iceage,whichstartedaround120,000yearsago.Butthere'snotmuchreasonforit,sincetheywouldhavehadlittlereasontosettle
downinsteadofwander,andtheywouldhavehadlittleopportunityforit,giventheglobalclimaticsituation.
What'smorecompellingisthecompletelackofevidenceofanysuchsettlementsfromearlierperiods.It'snotimpossible,butcurrently
wehavenoevidencesupportingthenotion,andnoreasontoexpecttofindany.
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ThisisoneIcangetbehindthough!Peoplethousandsofyearsagowereclosetolandingonthemoon,justasgoodhealthwiseasus,
etc.andthenBOOM!Glaciers.
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[] buriedcompass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
We'refriendsnow.
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[] PeterLockeWiggin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canyouelaborateonthis?
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[] lovableMisogynist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetaswell,themostarablelandwouldhavebeenlower,sealevelwasaround500mlowersomostremainswouldbeunder
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Butwouldn'ttherestillbeartificialsatellitesthatwouldbefoundinspace?OrmaybeallthesatellitestheEarthhasnowaretheancient
humancivilizationandwejustclaimedtomakethemOHMYGODTHISMUSTBETRUE.
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[] FuckStartYourHeart undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*Forerunners.
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[] snigwich undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whileit'saneatideahumanintelligenceatthelevelitistodayisveryrecent,likewithinthepast1020thousandyears.
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Whereistheconspiracypartinthis?
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[] combatchuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wehaveevidenceofdinosaursfrommillionsofyearsago,bacteriafrombillionsofyearsago,butwecan'tfindanythingfrom10,000
yearsago?Maybe,butIdoubtit.Ofcoursemodernhumansexisted,andlikelyevenhadsomeformofasociety.Buttosaythatthey
stayedinoneplaceandbuiltcitiesisabitfarfetched.Iwouldlikenitmoretocurrentnomadicpeople.Mostofwhattheydodoesn'tlast
verylong,andtheydon'tleavemuchofatrace.Butyou'dbewrongifyoudidn'tagreethattheyareacivilization.
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[] Enter_usernamehere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yuptheonethingirememberthemostfromthathistorycourseinuniwasthatwecanonlytracebacksofarastimehasdestroyedthe
rest.
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Ibelievethis100%.ThecomplexityofthestructureswefindfromthattimeperiodIthinkhavetobetheresultofearliercivilizationsthat
wehavenorecordof.
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[] Pawoot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MostoftheCivwouldbenexttotheocean.Astheicemeltedsealevelswentup.
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[] incognegro6969 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AnythingIcouldreadaboutthis?
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Yesitiswrittenonbackoftheconstitutionininvisibleink
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Wewon'tknowuntilwestealit
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Please,moreinfo.
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[] Reddit_Moviemaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,hereistoyou12000yearsold"Noah'sark"thatwasn'tactuallyaboat,butstillveryveryinteresting:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article1269165/NoahsArkremainsdiscoveredmountainTurkey.html
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[] JeanLucRetard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hellyeahman.Iwouldsaythecivilizationexistedthousandsofyearsbeforethenaswell.
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[] today2day undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'slargelybelievedearthhasbeenthroughseveraliceagesandhumanshavestartedoverseveraltimesalready.And
eventuallytheplanetwilldieandnotsupportlifeanymoreandenduplikeMars,whichisbelovedusedtobelikeEarth.
Planetsarealwaysmovingtocloserandfartherpositionsfromeachotherinspace,itjusttakessolongit'shardlynoticed.
AsIrememberthiswashighlybelievedbutmightbebesttocheckontheupdatedconsensusfromscientists,asIamnotoneandhave
noexperiencewiththisstuff.
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[] BedriddenSam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoblekiTepe,12,000yearsold.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbekli_Tepe
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[] karmapuhlease undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'ttheyhaveusedupalotoftheeasilyaccessibleoilthough?
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Idon'tnecessarilythinktheywereasadvancedasus.Buteveniftheywere,there'snoguaranteetheywould'veusedthesame
energysources.ButagainI'mreallynottalkingaboutacivilizationasadvancedasourown.
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[] NotThatEasily undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ioncewroteascreenplayforanalternatehistoryscifi.Themovietakesplaceinwhatispresumedtobethe70's/80'sandpeopleare
onthebrinkofinventingtheInternet.However,wesoonfindoutthatit'sactuallysomewherearoundtheyear3000andpeopleare
rebuildingcivilization.TheprotagonistfindsanoldservercontainingdataandwhatappearstobeadormantAI.Eventuallyhefigures
outthattheworldnearlyendedduringawarbetweenhumansandAIandwehadtoEMPtheentireplanettosaveourspecies.
Ihadfunwiththeidea,butIendedupbeingacompletelyshittywriter.
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Soundslikeafunpremise.You'dneedm.Night.ShyamalanonhisAgameforit
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[] Guinness_Guzzler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weareaspecieswithamnesia.
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Thisisnotexactlyaconspiracytheory.Who'shidingthefacts?
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[] pinkmeanie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbekli_Tepe
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[] starpuppycz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,consideringhowlongfullygeneticallyhumanpeoplewereonthisplanetfor,theideathatweonlystartedhavingcivilizationsa
fewthousandyearsagoseemsreally...scary.Ifintelligentpeoplestartingagricultureandstuffissounlikelythatittookmillionsofyears
totakeoff,itsuggeststhatitcouldtakeforeverforustocomebackfromanapocalypse.It'salsooneofthemoretragicpotentialFilters
forFermi'sparadox.Lifeformsjustfine,peopleevolvejustfine,butmostofthemjustspendafewmillionyearsinahunter/gathererrut
andthenquietlygoextinct.
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[] biggreenfan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tellmemore?
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[] thenewtbaron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
well,therearesomeotherpossiblities,suchasDoggerland.
Theremayhavebeenotherareasthatexistedlikethat.
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TILaboutdoggerland
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[] thenewtbaron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
coolain'tit?basicallythereusedtobeawholelandmassthere!
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[] veganhitler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mineisthathumancivilizationsgobackmillions,ifnotbillionsofyearsago.
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Wellyoucray....
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[] lets_trade_pikmin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyisthisprobablytrue?Istheresomekindofevidence?
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Wedofindtheoddmegalithicstructurethatdatesbacktobeforewethoughtitwaspossibletobuildsuchthings.ButmostlyIthink
it'saprobabilityargument.Thesamewayit'sunlikelywe'retheonlylifeintheuniverseduetoitsshearsize,Ifinditunlikelythatwe
justwanderedaroundwithourthumbsupourassesfor190,000yearsandthendecidedtosettledown.
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Wedofindtheoddmegalithicstructurethatdatesbacktobeforewethoughtitwaspossibletobuildsuchthings
Canyoubemorespecific?
Ifinditunlikelythatwejustwanderedaroundwithourthumbsupourassesfor190,000yearsandthendecidedtosettle
down.
Seemslikesillylogictome.That'slikesayingit'sunlikelythatlifeonearthspent4billionyearswanderingaround
unintelligentlyandthendecidedtoevolvehumanlevelintelligence.Really,theveryfactthatmanytribesstilldon'thave
civilizationvetosthatargument.
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Gobeklitepiforone....Andsayingit"vetoes"myargumentisalittlestrong.Billionsofyearsworthofevolutionselecting
thebareminimumoftraitsthatwillpassgenestothenextgenerationisalittledifferentthanwhatI'mtalkingabout.
Evolutionhasnoagency.
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I'lllookthatup...butyouaretwistingmywords.Isaid"theveryfactthatmanytribesstilldon'thavecivilization
vetosthatargument."Ineversaid"evolutiondidn'tproducehumansfor4billionyearsvetoesthatargument."One
ofthoseisonlyindirectevidenceagainstyourargument,theotherisadirectcontradictiontoyourargument.
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[] dutchrudder7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ROLLJRE
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[] bingbongbizzle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nonononononononononononopleaseno
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[] AThrowaway454 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canitreallybea"theory"ifit'scompletelyunfalsifiableaspartofitspremise(alltheevidencewasdestroyed)?
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Iseewhatyou'resayingandI'mnotsure.It'scertainlymorefalsifiablethanreligioustheories(wecouldintheoryonedayimagethe
wholeplanetwithavarietyofinstrumentsandseeeveryburiedartifact)butit'sincrediblyunfeasibletodosoforalongtime.Ithink
withanythingprehistoricit'sjustimportantnottothinkyouknoweverything
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[] doc_caligari undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veneverheardthatonebutitsoundsinteresting.Isthereanysupport?
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Hmmneverthoughtaboutthatactuallymakesalotofsense.Humanssettleclosetoshore,waterlevelshavebeenrising,astimegoes
onweslowlyloseevidenceofoldercivilizations.
Stillwouldn'texplainwhywedon'thaveevidenceofmoreinlandcivilizationsthough.
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True.Butglacialadvancesandretreatswouldtakecareofmostinlandevidence.Andwhoknowswhatelsecouldbeunderthe
Sahara.Theworldisabigplaceandtheorieslikethisshouldn'tbeimmediatelydisregarded
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Absolutely!IfollowthistopicverycloselyandI'dhavetosaytheconspiracyisn'tthepossibilityofthislosthistorybutthedenialofit
everexisting.There'snoconspiracyofevidenceit'sthereandabundant.Therealconspiracyhereistheconsensusofsocietyto
ignoretherealpossibilitythatweareaspecieswithamnesia.
Theevendeeperconspiracyismuchmoreunsettling:thepoweredelitefrompreviouslostcivilizationspasseddowntheirknowledge
andmadesurecertainpieceswereshared,andothersnot.There'salsoevidenceofthis,andIthinkthe'handbag'symbolimpliesthis.
Therearesecretsocietiestoday,soit'snotastretchtothinkthatthereareafewifnotonesuperancientsecretsocietyincontrolofour
moderndayworld.
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Thealienrace...
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[] woohhaa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhaveanylinksonthistheory?Seemsinteresting.
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[] BarcodeNinja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Usarchaeologistswouldliketoseetheevidence.Anyevidence.
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LolI'mageologystudentsoIknowwhatyoumean.TherehavebeenmonolithicstructuresdatedtoaroundTwelvethousandyears
butit'shardlyNineveh.Thetheorysurviveshoweverbecauseit'ssohardtodisprove,andgivenhowlongwe'vebeengenetically
modernitisinnowayimpossible.
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[] beard_of_ages undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RandallCarlson!!
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Lolappropriateusername,I'mhonestlynotahugefanthough.
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[] beard_of_ages undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icanabsolutelyunderstandwhy.Ifnothingelse,Ireallyenjoyhisabilitytotellastorythough.
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[] Arcane_Bullet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkwecantakethisonestepfurther.
Thephase"Historyrepeatsitself"istrue.Thismeansthatglacierswillrecedeandwipeoutmostofhumanity.Therewillbeverylittle
leftofthepreviousworld.Theworldstaysbasicallyunderwaterfor1000yearsthenrecedesbackintoglaciersuntiltheentireplanetis
coverinice.Thenwehavetheiceageandsoon.
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[] SgtWasabi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThereisalsoGbekliTepethattheybelieveisfrom12,000yearsold.
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That'snothowrecedingglacierswork.
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Yousure?BecauseI'mprettysuremovingicecanscrapetheearthdowntobedrock,andleavehundredsofmetersofsediment
behind.
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[] jbcatalyst2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveabooksomewhere...."ForgottenCivilization"byRobertSchoch.Hedoesn'tsayAtlantiswasrealoranythinglikethat,hebrings
upevidenceabout...(tryingtoremember)...apossibleancientcivilizationthatwasmoreadvancedthanwebelieve,but12,500years
agothesunhadahugecoronalburstanditwipedoutthatcivilization.IttalksaboutTobekliTepe,theHeadthingsonEasterIsland,
andthesun.Interestingbook,imo.
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Goodchancewewerehitbyalargeobjectatthetimecascadingtheentireevent.
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Thejury'sstilloutonthedryasimpacthypothesisacademicallyspeaking.Alltheevidencefoundsofarcanbeexplainedbyother
events.Andsomeoftheevidencehasshowntohaveoccurredatdifferenttimes.Butit'sStillpossible
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[] TimHortonReborn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peoplesay,"WhatwerepeopledoingfortheXhundredthousandyearsbeforerecordedhistory?"I'mprettysuretheansweriseating,
fucking,anddying,justlikeanyothercomplicatedanimal.
Humanbeingshaveatonofintellectualpotential,butwithoutlearning"civilizedideas"fromother,westillbehaveinfairlyprimitive,
animalisticways.Untilweinventedwriting,itwouldhavebeenreallydifficulttoreliablypasscomplexideasontothoseindividuals
cleverenoughtoinnovatesomethingamazing.(Oralhistorywasuseful,butnotasgoodaswriting.)Theneteffectisthat"innovation"
wouldhavebeenlimitedtothoseluckytimeswhengreatideashappenedinthesameplaceaspeoplecleverenoughtoactonthem,
whichmeansourinitialdevelopmentwouldhavebeenvery,veryslow.
ButI'mnotananthropologist,sowtfdoIknow?
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[] pastrypusher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'stheunderlyingevidenceofsaidevidence?
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LovedthatbookwhenIwasakid.Sadly,eventheauthoradmitsnowhegotalotofstuffwrong:(
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he'soneofthoseguysthatthrowsoutsomanytheoriesthatofcoursesometurnouttoberight
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10,000yearsago?GobekliTepeisabuiltcomplexthatwasbuilt12,000yearsago.Soyeh,therewerecivilizations.Wellpeoplewith
theabilitytobuildshitatleast.
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SeveralHolesinthis:
1. Civilisationstendtoleavequitelargeimprintsonthelandscapethatwouldshowupsomewhere.
2. Consideringthatwritingisabigpartofcivilizationandalotofcivilisationswriteinstone,whereisthewriting?
3. Evenwithrisingsealevelswouldn'tsomethingsbefoundinland?
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[] PutThatCatDown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatabouttheGreatLakes?Thosethingsaredeepafandwereformedbyglaciers.
Notsupportingthetheory,butjustgivingmoretothinkabout.
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Whataboutallthoseplacesthathaveneverseenaglacierin10,000years?
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[] PutThatCatDown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notsure.Notanexpertinthearea.
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[] Henman84 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GlaciershaveastrongabilitytoaltertheshapeoftheEarth.Theycoulddestroythevisibleimprints.Andmaybesomestuffisburied
deep,orwaswashedintothesea
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[] iamplasma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Glacierscan'trestoreoilfieldsandcoalmines.
Ournaturalresources,andespeciallythefactthatnaturaloilfieldshaven'tbeendraineduntilthe20thcentury,areseriously
inconsistentwiththerehavingbeenanindustrialagebeforeours.
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Itdoesn'thavetobeanindustrialage
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[] Forkrul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenso,surfacedepositsofmetalwascommonupuntiltheGreekandRomanempiresrose.Thatwouldnot
havebeenthecaseiftherewerepreviouscivilizationsthathadknowledgebeyondstonetools.
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[] sabbathrules undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthat'sprettynarrowtothinkofitlikethat,therewereplentyofcivilizationsbeforetheindustrialage.Justthinkofhow
manyRomanEmpirescouldbewashedawayinthesandsoftimes.
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[] iamplasma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Okay,thatI'llacceptismorepossible.I'dtakenthe"conspiracy"asbeinganadvancedcivilisation.
Thougheventhen,anythingfrombronzeageoraboveshouldhaveleftnoticeableeffects.Nativemetalswerestill
availabletothegreeksandromans,whichshouldn'thavebeenthereiftherehadbeenmany"romanempires"
usingupthosedeposits.
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AhIsee.Evensomypointstands.Noteverythingwillbedestroyed.They'recouldbeevidence,isthereanyevidence?
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ThingslikeGoblekiTepi,andpossibleytheSphinx.Theyarefindingthingsrecently.Mostlymassivestructuresor
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GoblekiTepi
Nowthatisaninterestingplace.Thatcouldlenditselftoacivilisationliving10,000yearsago.
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Right.Oddsareitwouldn'tdestroyeverything!
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[] Joey__stalin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavenoideaifthisissupportedbyevidence,soundslikesomethingyou'dseeonAncientAliens.Butifgeneticallymodernhumans
appearedaround250,000yearsago,Ioftenwonderedwhatthehecktheywerereallydoingallthattime.Formerunknowncivilizations
wouldbeoneanswer.Anotheroptioncouldbethatwhiletheywerefundamentallyandbiologicallyadistinctspecies,theirmental
capacitywasstillevolving.Woulditbepossibletotakeahumanbabyfrom100,000BC,raisetheminamodernworld,andexpect
themtoperformatanaverageintelligencelevel?Ifnurturedinsociety,wouldtheybeabletounderstandhumansociety,comprehend
mathematics,andlearnlanguages?That'sanhonestquestionthatI'dbeinterestedinhearingtheanswerto.
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[] gontoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thesamethingwearedoingwherewehaven'taccesstomoderntechnology.Thoseplacesstillexistonearth.
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We'vebeengraduallygettingsmarter,withhugespikesrecentlyduetonutrition(sinceagriculturaldevelopment).There'safucking
massivedifferenceinwhatasocietywithameanIQof100canaccomplish,andwhatonewithameanIQof75can.Thedifference
innumbersofgeniuses(attherightofthebellcurve)isastounding.
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[] ngwoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Formerunknowncivilizationswouldbeoneanswer.Anotheroptioncouldbethatwhiletheywerefundamentallyandbiologically
adistinctspecies,theirmentalcapacitywasstillevolving.
There'sathirdoption:wesimplyhaveabiaseddefinitionofwhatconstitutescivilization.
Ifthetotalhumanpopulationwaslowenoughforhundredsofthousandsofyearsthatlivinginnomadictribesofhuntergatherers
providedenoughforeveryone,nobodywouldhavehadareasontoconsideranythingelse.Justbecausetheyweren'tconstructing
buildingsthatlastedfortensofthousandsofyearsforustofind,doesn'tmeantheywerereallyallthatdifferent.
Iknowpersonally,Ihaven'teverbuiltanythingthatwouldlastthatlongbecauseIhaveacomfortablelifethatdoesn'trequiremeto.
Maybetheythoughtthesameway.
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Iftheyaregeneticallyidenticalorsimilar,thenyes.
Iftheyaren't,thenno.
(Iknow,thatdoesn'thelpmuch,I'mjustaddingsomefinetuningtothequestion)
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[] mynameisevan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butifgeneticallymodernhumansappearedaround250,000yearsago,Ioftenwonderedwhatthehecktheywerereallydoing
allthattime.
Giventherightclimateandenvironment,beingapaleolithichuntergathererisactuallyaprettynicelife.There'snoreasonto
changeuntilthere'sareasontochange,whichiswhathappenedabout11000yearsagowhenthePleistoceneepochendedand
suddenlythereweretoomanypeopletocomfortablyliveahuntergathererlifestyle.
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[] Homozygote undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhentheEuropeanscametoAustralia,theyfoundhuntergatherersocieties.Therearestillexamplestodayofsuchsocieties
throughouttheworld.Ithinkit'sprettymuchcertainthatancienthumanswereeverybitascapableasweare.Wehavetolook
elsewhereforexplanations.Whydidhuntergatherersocietiesthatpersisteduntilthemoderneraneverdevelopagricultureetc?
Certainlynotbecausetheyweren'tintellectuallycapable.Maybetheydidn'thaveaccessto/hadn'tdiscoveredeasilygrownfood
crops.Ormaybetheycouldhave,butconditionsweren'tperfectandlivingashuntergathererswasamoresuccessfullifestyle,so
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theyneverdevelopedthetoolsandknowledgetomakeitpreferable.I'mimaginingthatthere'sasignificanthurdletoovercomefora
tribe/societytomakethetransition.Ithastobeeasyenoughthatagroupcantransitionfromanexclusivelynomadic,hunter
gathererlifestyle,toasettledfarmingone.Dependinghownarrowtherangeofconditionsarethatmakethatpossible,there'sa
chancehumanbeingsneverencounteredthoseconditionsuntilthepastfewthousandyears.Maybetherightenvironmentdidn't
existanywhereuntilafterthelasticeage.
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[] 6785b789 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyouheadofthequotetalkingabouthowwestandontheshouldersofgiants?Agricultureseemslikereallyobviouswhen
you'velivedwithityourentirelife,anditseemsreally,reallybeneficialaswell.But,fromwhatIunderstandaboutthesubject,
Nomadiclifeactuallykickedalotofass.Youwereonlyreallydoingshitlike4hoursofthedayandthenyoucouldjustchillwithyour
familyandfriendseatingandtellingstories.
Whenyoureallystartexaminingallofthestuffthathadtobecreatedtogetagriculturetowork,andhowcompletelyalienthatlife
wouldhavebeentousthenit'snotashardtobelievethatwejustwouldn'tsettledownforawhile.Ifyoujustimagineswitchingfrom
ahighspeedlifehuntinganimals(whichactuallywouldhavebeenprettyfunforthosepeople)todoinghoursandhoursofhard,
relativelydullworkandyouwon'tgetfoodthattastesasgoodit'snotashardtobelieve.
RememberthatwestillhadvastNomadictribesasmajorpoliticalentitiesupuntilthe1700's,andthat'satatimewhensedentary
civilizationwasarguablybeginningtoreallybebetterfortheaverageperson.
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Beforeagriculture,itwasextremelyviolent.ThoughitwasoftendebatedandRousseauinthe1700swouldagreewithyou,
evidenceshowsthistobeuntrue.
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Inwhatway?Likeintergrouprivalries,orthroughstarvation?
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Intergroup.Basicallytherearefiniteresourcesandtheonlywaytogetmoreresourcesistosteal/fightforthem.
withagricultureandsociety,youbuild"positivesum"relationshipswhereworkingtogetheryoueachgetmore
thanifyouweretostealfromtheotherpersonwhichdisincentivizesviolence/theft.Whatreallyseemstobe
importantforcivilsocietyisareputableandaccountablegovernmentwhocanjustlydealwithinevitableconflicts.
Ifyoudon'thaveagovernmentthatistrusted,youinevitablyendupwithunendingrevengeviolence(stillseenin
manypartsoftheworldtoday).
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Speakingofnomadiclifekickingass,haveyouheardofthattheorywhereoneofourancestorshuntedbulllikecreaturesby
sprintingatthem,vaultingovertheirheadsandturningaroundinmidair,landingontheirbacks,andkillingthemfromthere?
That'sprettykickass.
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No,butI'veheardaboutpersistencehuntingwhichisprobablythemostbadassthingIcanthinkof.Oh,animalsare
stronger,fasterandmoreagile?WellI'mjustgoingtorunyousoraggedyoucan'trunanymorebecauseIamthespirit
ofeverencroachingdoom.
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Yeah,that'smysinglefavoritethingaboutus,isthatwecandothat.Ijumpateveryopportunitytotellpeopleof
thatsinceit'ssokickass.
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Originalplantsweeatnowhavesolittleincommonwithwhatpeoplewereeatingthen.Bogglesthemind.
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It'salsonotperseabetterchoice.Astoneagehumanwithbowandspearisanapexpredator,sogettingfoodshouldbe
quiteeasymostofthetime.Ibelievetorecallthatcavemenonlyworkedafewhoursaweek(oratleastlessthanour40
hours).
Agricultureandclosesettlementswithdomesticatedanimalsalsoincreasetheriskofdiseasessoifyou'relivinginasparsely
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populatedareathere'snotasmuchofabenefitinbecomingafarmerasonemightthink.Agricultureisonlyanecessityifthe
populationbecomestoodense.
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It'sfunnyyoumentionagriculture,asit'sacommontopicinthe"culturalamnesia"circles.Historically,agriculturejust
suddenlyappeared,practicallyovernight,sofarasrecordedhistoryisconcerned.Notrialanderror,noexperimentation,just
suddendevelopedcroptending.
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[] Elephantom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?Agriculturewasaroundlongbeforewriting.Thefirstinstancesofwritingwereaccountingsofgoodsin
storehouses.Therewasnoexperimentationbecauseitwasalreadythere.Thefirstinstancesofwritingwere3,000BC
andthefirstinstancesoffarmingwerearound10,000BCorearlier.That'sonly7,000yearstofigureitout.Thisislike
sayingthere'snomentionofclothingbeinginventedinhistory,clothingjustinexplicablyappearsinthewrittenrecord,
thereforeclothingwasinventedbysomeancientcivilization.Andwhatdoyoumeanit"appearedovernight"?Showme
theinstanceinwrittenhistorywhereagriculturesuddenly"appear[s]".Thisisthebiggestcrockofpoorlyinformed
bullshitI'vereadallweek.Thereisabsolutelynoevidencetobackupthisstatementandit'scompletelybasedonflawed
logicandapoorunderstandingofhumandevelopment.
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Clearlytheanswerisaliens.
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[] neomagtyler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
vastNomadictribesasmajorpoliticalentitiesupuntilthe1700's
Yep,beforeEuropewipedthemoutsystematically.
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shitthecossackswereamajorpoweruntilstalinwipedthemoutandtheywerelargelynomadic.
isn'talargeportionofthemongolianpopulationstillmoderatelynomadic?
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MostlyItendtothinkoftheMongolianpopulationsandvariousotherTurkictribesthatwereontheperipheryofImperial
Russia.SeveralNativetribescometomindaswellbut(fromwhatIunderstandagain)theydon'ttohavehadthesame
examplesofUrbanizationinmostexamples.
EventheHaidaontheBCcoast,whounderstood"agriculture"sotofpracticedinawaythat'sdifferentfromwhatwe
wouldexpect.Theywouldn'tplantcropsandjusttendtothem,butthey'dmovingfromplacetoplaceandjustsortof
havea"deaddrop"ifyouwilloffoodstuffsforwhentheycomeback.Theyweredoingthattillatleastthe1700's.
Ican'tspeakonthemodernMongolianpopulation,butnomadictribescertainlyprehistoricanditseemslike
excavationsareconstantlycomingupwithmoreevidenceastohow"developed"theytrulywere.
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yeahtheideathatourformsoforganizationarenecessarilythemostcivilizedorprogressiveseemsrathernaive
andlinear.
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Andbeforefarming,wehadtolearnhowtoproperlycareforgamefoodsaswell,aswellasinventingapeskylittlething
calledlanguageandmakingitcommonenoughthatenoughpeopleunderstooditforittobeuseful.Idon'tseewhyit'sso
difficultforpeopletoseehumansexistingforacouplehundredthousandyearsbeforefinallysettlingdown.Populations
themselveshavetobesufficienttodefendyourownlandandthosethingsdon'texactlygrowovernight.
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Also,wearecontinuingtobuildontheknowledgeofthosebeforeusandnowhavemanywaysofdoingsoaroundthe
worldinstantaneouslyandlawstoencouragepeopletobecreativeandmakeprofitfromit.Atthedawnofhumanity,we
didn'tknowshit,hadalmostnowayofsharingthatinformationtoothers,andneededwritingtopasstheinformation
alongtomultiplegenerations.Plus,climatecyclinghadalottodowithittoo.
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[] Samthescott 344points
GrahamHancockmyman!!
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[] TravelandFoodBear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lolredditreallylovesesotericalpseudoscience.
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[] ransome_galvinized undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisiswhathappenswhentheyleavetheircirclejerk.Pleaseunderstandthathavinganopenmindmeansyourfeelingsmay
gethurteveryonceinawhile,andthat'sok.
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I'moutoftheloop?
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[] meatgoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Powerful
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[] CharMeckSchools undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FingerprintsoftheGodswasprettyawesome.
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[] TanikaTubman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yougotaninterview,podcast,orlectureofhisyourecommendonthesubject?
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[] Samthescott undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllhisappearancesontheJoeRoganpodcasthavebeenprettycool.HealsohasabannedTEDtalkthatyoucanfindon
youtube.
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[] staypositiveasshole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SeeinghimatPowell'snextweek!
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[] headshota undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodgooglymoogly
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[] HooKim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowdareyouSir
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Don'tforgetRandallCarlson!!!
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[] tititeol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetRandallcarlsontoo!
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[] 64bitHustler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
<cough>....cataclysmic....<phlem>.....Jamie??....<throatclear>....Pleistocene...
Lovethatdude!Icouldlistentohimforhours.
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[] ABondaxFan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hedidwritesomekillerbooks.
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[] PM_ME_ALIEN_STUFF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mypeople!!LovemesomeGrahamHancock!
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[] phidel_kashflow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ONEOFUS
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[] dynoraptor 1point
MaybetheyareinsideAgartha
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Watchhttps://youtu.be/aDejwCGdUV8itsfuckingawesome
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Gottastartfromthebeginning!!
Thereare4withHancock,2withCarlson,andthe1withboth.HerearethelinksintheorderIrecommend(first2Hancock,first
Carlson,thirdHancock,secondCarlson,fourthHancock,HancockandCarlsontogether):
1)https://youtu.be/ygWxXphYRos
2)https://youtu.be/tsu2I2q6dg
3)https://youtu.be/R31SXuFeX0A
4)https://youtu.be/1cbnCrHwVSg
5)https://youtu.be/G0Cp7DrvNLQ
6)https://youtu.be/W7zfnNH1GD0
7)https://youtu.be/aDejwCGdUV8
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Youdidnotsteermewrong,friend.Holyshit.
NotentirelysureifIwanttobelievetheseguysautomaticallybutI'mdefinitelylookingintoit.
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[] art_ist_ter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
joeroganexperienceisjustanabsurdtitleforashow,whythefdoiwanttoexperienceadudewhoican'tstand,it'slikesaying,
herestickyourheadintomyarmpitwhileimoveupanddown
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Nooo!That'sthemostrecent!Youhavetowatchthe3fromRandallCarlsonandthe3fromHancockinorderfromearliest.Then
theoneyoulinked.
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[] dustin_fletcher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'salotofmehavingtolistentoJoeRogantalkshit.CanyougiveustheTLDR?Genuinelyinterestedintheguys,but
can'tstandJR
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No,IcannotgiveyouaTLDRonsome20hrsofpodcasts.
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[] wolf149 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thankyousomuchforthis
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Curly:"Soitenly!"
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Canyoulinktoayoutubeplaylist?
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Justsearch"rogancarlson"onYouTubeandfindthelowestnumberinthetitle.Samewithhancock"roganhancock"
andchooselowestnumber.I'drecommendalternatingbetweentheguestsasyoumoveupthenumbers,butthat'sjust
mypreferencesoyou'renotwatching69hrsofoneguest.Iassureyouthatyou'llbeentertainedandyourmindwillbe
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[] KrauseXian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RandallCarlson
Canyoumakeusayoutubeplaylist?Therearewaytoomanyvideoscomingupformetobeabletowatchthem
alltofindtherightones.
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Madeanerror.Thereare4withHancock,2withCarlson,andthe1withboth.Herearethelinksinthe
orderIrecommend(first2Hancock,firstCarlson,thirdHancock,secondCarlson,fourthHancock,
HancockandCarlsontogether):
1)https://youtu.be/ygWxXphYRos
2)https://youtu.be/tsu2I2q6dg
3)https://youtu.be/R31SXuFeX0A
4)https://youtu.be/1cbnCrHwVSg
5)https://youtu.be/G0Cp7DrvNLQ
6)https://youtu.be/W7zfnNH1GD0
7)https://youtu.be/aDejwCGdUV8
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[] KrauseXian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanks!!
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[] Mr_Mars undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aretheyall3+hours?Ain'tnobodygottimeforthat.
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Ifyouwanttolearn,it'sdamnfascinating.IthinkIbrokeeachofthemupintooneortwosessions.
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Thisreallyisn'tanythingnew.Theyspentsomuchtimeexplainingtheir"research"withthelandscapeinthearea..wheninreality
thiswasprovenintheearly1900's.
IbelieveNovahadaprogramonit.
Ohhereitis:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/megaflood/scabnf.html
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[] iTuneds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ImaybewrongonthisbutIthinktheconclusiontheyweretryingtomakewasthatthesourceofwaterwasn'tthelakethatis
thecurrentlyacceptedtheorybutratherthewaterthatmeltedasaresultofameteorsmashingintotheglacialsheet.
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[] lvl12 51points
Thankswilldo!Itjustseemsoddtomethatwe'vebeengeneticallymodernforhundredsofthousandsofyearsbutonlystarted
civilizationwiththesumerians
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Anatomicallymodern.Butwhataboutourbrains?Alsosupportingcivilizationsrequirescertainpopulationdensities.
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Ourbrainsarepartofouranatomy....Ithinkyoumeanculture,orcollectiveknowledge
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Theproblemwiththatthinkingisthatwe'relookingatwhenourlivesarebasedonsedentary,agriculturalculture.Wetendto
thinkoftechnologicalandsocietalprogressasthisunstoppable,linearcreationbutitallcomesdowntowhetherornotpeople
actuallywanttotradeintheirhuntinggearforfarms.
Andtheideaof"civilization"asweknowitissortofabiasedterm.Nomadicpeoplesreallyneverreallychangedthewaythey
liveduntilrecentlyandwecouldconsidermostofthemtohavecivilizations.Oraltraditionsandnomadicculturestendtobe
veryhardtofindevidence,so"civilization"tendstogetpassedaroundonwhetherornotthepeoplestartedfarmingorwriting
stuffdown.
Notthattheinterview'saren'tawesome,eventhoughIcan'treallygetbehindHancock'sideas,Istilllovelisteningtohim
explainthem.
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AsageostudentIhaveahardtimelisteningtothatgeologisthe'swith.AtanyrateIdon'tBELIEVEthisstuffbutit'sfun
tothinkabout.Imeanifourcivilizationwaswipedouttomorrowhowmuchevidencedoyouthinktherewouldbeintens
ofthousandsofyears?Thefactthatyoucouldgobackintime15,000years,stealaninfantfromatribeofhunter
gatherers,andraiseittobeamodernengineerblowsmeaway.
Iknowforthevastmajorityofourknownhistoryourprogresshasn'tbeenlinear(thanksdancarlin)butthereisavery
longtimebeforethelasticeagewherewecouldhaverisenandfallen.
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Whatmakeshimhardtolistento?I'mstillwatchingthevideobutI'mhopingtofindsomemainstream
explanationsonwhatthey'retalkingaboutandfindoutwhythey'resocriticized.I'mstillupintheairbecausethis
allsoundsprettyconvenient.
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Imeanifourcivilizationwaswipedouttomorrowhowmuchevidencedoyouthinktherewouldbeintensof
thousandsofyears?
1. Anoticeableextinctioneventishappeningrightnow.Theevidenceofthiswillremaininthefossilrecordfor
alongtime
2. Therearesitesallovertheworldthatshouldcontainshitloadsofoil,butdon't
3. Radioactivefalloutfromnucleartestingisstillintheatmosphere.It'sgonnastaythereawhile.Andtheby
productsofitscontinuingdecaywillbeinthegroundwhenfuturegenerationsgodigging.
4. Therearesixbillionofus.There'sgonnabewaymoreskeletonsfromthiscenturythananyonewould
expectiftheywerelookingforhuntergathererremains.
5. There'salotofjunkinorbitrightnow,andsomeofitwillstaythereforalongtime.
6. Skyscrapers.It'lltakealongtimeforthemalltobeburied,andafterthey'reburiedthey'renotjustgonna
evaporateintothinair.Steelreinforcers,concrete,pipes,allthatstuff...itwon'tbeingoodcondition,butit'll
betherewaitingtobedugup.
Overonwikipedia(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future),itsaysthatarchaeologistsshouldbe
abletorecognizesignsofgreatcoastalcitieseven100millionyearsfromnow.
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[] dogmaskedduck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneinterestingthingtothinkaboutishowit'sgoingtobehardtoretrieveinformationaboutthepresentday,
becausealotofitisdigital.ThinkofarchaeologiststhousandsofyearsfromnowfindingabunchofHDDs
orSSDs...They'llneverbeabletoreadtheircontents,andsomuchofpresenthumanrecordsaredigital
only:personalnotes(blogposts),news,technicalknowledge,etc.
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Canyouexplainwhatyoumeanabouttheoilthing?I'mnotsurewhatthatmeans.
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Alotofoilfieldsallovertheworldhavebeendepleted.There'ssmallamountsofoilstillinthem,but
notenoughtobeworthextracting.Inthefuture,ifpeoplekeepfindinggiantcavitieswithlittlebitsof
energydenseoilatthebottom,it'snotthatmuchofaleaptofigureoutthatapreviouscivilization
extractedandburnedtherestofit,andthesheervolumeofoilthatmusthavebeenusedupsaysalot
abouthowmuchenergythatcivilizationneeded.
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[] User_name555 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tforgetmountRushmore.Fourhumanfacescarveddeepintosolidgraniteisgoingtooutlastdamn
nearanyphysicalartifactswe'vemadeunlessitget'shitbyanasteroidorsomething.
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Yes,butisitagoodsignofamoderncivilization?Carvedfacesareeverywhere,fromeverypartof
recordedhistory(andbefore?),thesefourarereallybigbutstill...
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[] User_name555 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellmodernbeingtheinventionofdynamitearound1860,sokindof?Andwhilecarvedfaces
areeverywhere,theyweretypicallymadeofsofterrockthangranite,andwellnotcarved
straightontothesideofamountain.
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[] RaptorJedi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anothergoodexampleisinvasivespecies.It'snotasobviousasignastheothers,butwe'vespread
speciesaroundtheglobe.Afuturecivilization(eitherhumansorextraterrestrials)thatispayingattentionto
thefossilrecordwouldnoticesomethingoutofplace.Forexample,thesuddenintroductionofmultiple
speciesofplacentalmammalstoAustralia.Fartoomanyfromdifferentpartsoftheworldtobearafting
eventorsomeotherformofislandhopping.
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Coollink!I'mreallynotadiehardsupporterbutI'llhavetodisagreewithyouontheskyscrapersand
concrete.Thesethingsactuallyweatherextremelyfastgeologicallyspeaking.Andfindinggreatcoastal
citiesmightbetoughwhenthey'reunderwaterandburiedinsediment.
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Idon'tthinkyouunderstandthekindoffootprintallthematerialfromaskyscraperwouldleave.Ifwe
cantakealookatdinosaurswhonevercreatedcitiesoranythinglikethat,thenitshouldfollowthat
theskyscrapersandcoastalcitieswillhaveplentyofevidenceleftbehindtotellastorytofuture
people's.Evenifit'sminutecomparedtotheactualskyscraperitself,youwouldbesurprisedathow
muchinformationcanbegleanedfromasmallamountofmaterial.Wecanseehowriverbedschange
courseovermillionsofyears,weshouldbeabletoseeevidenceofcoastalcitiesaswell.
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Theundergroundinfrastructureisn'tgonnaweather.Andthere'splentyofplacesinlandthatshould
yieldarichharvestofurbanartifactsandinfrastructureifyoudigintherightplaces.
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Itdoesn'ttakeintoaccounttheIceAgesandothereventsthatmaywipeareascleanoffthe
map?Ifindithardtobeleivecityevidencecanlastmillionsofyears,mostofoutbuildingsbarely
stayupwithoutconstantmaitenence
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Alltheevidenceispossiblyunderwater,sincethesealevelwasawhole120meterslowerduringthelasticeage.
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IguaranteethereisevidenceofthemovementofhumansintoNorthAmericaalongtheBeringLandBridge
ifitweren'tunderwater.
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Imeanifourcivilizationwaswipedouttomorrowhowmuchevidencedoyouthinktherewouldbeintensof
thousandsofyears?
Ithinkthat'swhythesearesuchfascinatingideasbecauseitforcesustothinkabouttheimplicationsofwhat
happensifwegothitbyanextinctionlevelevent.Whatarethearchaeologistswhodigupourtombsgoingtolook
at?Whatkindofmisconceptionswillbeprintedasfactbecausetheyjustcan'tthinkthewaywedo?
LikeCarlinsaysinThor'sAngelsIbelieve,peoplehaveahardtimethinkingabouttheircivilizationfalling.
Hancock'sideaschallengethemodernideaofinvincibilityandstability.
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Ya,Idooverallthinkheisn'ttobetakenveryseriously.Butweshouldn'tignorehimeither
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HonestlyIthinkhe'sventuredtoofarintotheDMTrealmabittoomanytimes.
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[] johnnybones23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheinterviewistheaurhorofFingerprintsoftheGods.Abestsellerabout10yearsorsoago.Hehasanewbookoutnow.
Butitsafascinatinginterviewbasedonfactsscienceandhistory.Basicallyanasteroidor(cometfragment)hittheearth
12,500yearsagoandcausedmassiveflooding(noah'sark)andforestfires.Humanitywentdowntoabout2000peopleand
rebuilt.Highlyrecommendedinterviewifyoulikethisstuff.
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Thiswouldshowup.ingeneticdiversity.Thelasthumanchikepointwasaround70000yearsagowhenmodernman
wasdowntoafewthousandbreedingpairsaccordingtogeneticstudies.
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[] iTuneds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canyouexplainhowitwouldshowupingeneticdiversity?I'mtryingtograsptheconceptbutitseemstomelike
ifthereweremultiplegroupswhomvastlydifferedgeneticallythatsurvivedthenmuchofthepriorgeneticdiversity
couldbepreservedwhilewewouldn'tknowwhatwaslost?
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Yeahbutevenifbychanceyourscenariooccurred,youwouldstillseethechokepointofthosefewgroups
thatremained,nomatterhowdifferenttheywerefromeachother
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[] Naughtyburrito undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InSitchin'sbookshesaysthefloodwascausebythegravitationalforcesofabrowndwarfwithahighlyellipticalorbit
causingtheAntarcticiceshelftoslideoffthesolidgroundunderneathandintotheocean.The''Gods''knewofthis
imminenteventhappeningandplannedtoriseintotheheavensandwaitoutthecataclysmwhileleavinghumanitytobe
wipedoutastheyhad"tiredofthenoiseofhumanity",butEnlil(oneoftheGodsresponsibleforcreatinghumanity,the
otherbeingNinhursag)feltpityforhiscreationsandbehindthebackoftheotherGods,gaveonehumantheknowledge
heneededtobuilda"boat"capableofbeingsubmergedandrolledaroundwithoutbeingdestroyed.Asthefloodswept
overtheEarthkillingeverything,theGodsinheavenlookeddownandfeltremorsefortheircreationsandregrettedtheir
decision.Thingssettleddown,theGodscamedowntotheEarthfromtheheavenstosurveythedamageandloand
beholdasmallgroupofhumanssomehowsurvivethefloodaftertheir"boat"wascaughtontopofMt.Sinai.TheGods
decidedtheywouldatonefortheirmistakebyhelpingandprotectingthesurvivinghumans.
Icouldgomoreintoitbutitgetsprettylengthy,buttheagreementwastherewashumancivilizationthatpossessed
technologycomparableandevenmoreadvancedinsomecasestowhatwehavetoday,buttheywerewipedoutby
cataclysmandwearethedescendantsofthesurvivors.Itmightevenbepossiblewewerealmostwipedoutmorethan
once,thereissomeevidencebutit'smostlyspeculation.
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[] escape_goat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifsuchathingweretrue,thenwhywouldtherebenoevidenceofpreviousresourceextraction?Alltherichveins
ofmetallicorerightupnearthesurfaceallacrosstheplanet?Alltheuntouchedcoaldeposits?
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See,thatsabittoofarforme.Oddsarepreviouslostcivilizationsneverevenmadeironweaponsletalone
surpassedusin2015.
Ontheotherhand,whereIagreewithHancockisthatthesecivilizationsmighthavepossessedcertain
technologies,orevenwaystoviewrealitythatarelosttous.Thedeepnessofpsychedelicdrugsforexample.I'm
evenopentotheideathattheywereabletomovehugestonesinwaysthatwouldblowourmind.
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Whatoddsareyoutalkingabout?Youreallythinkacivilizationcapableofbuildingmassivemegalithic
structuresthatcouldn'tbereplicatedwithourcurrenttechnologycouldn'tmasterhowtodigoreoutofthe
groundandsmeltit?
Hancockmakesagreatpointabouthowhumanbeingstodaydon'tlikegoingagainstthenarrativethatwe
aren'tatthemosttechnologicallyadvancedpointinourhistory.
Ifwegothitbya10milewideasteroidthatcausedamassiveglobalfloodonthescaleofwhathappenedin
thepast,therewouldn'tbeasingletraceofanycityleftintheworld.Steelandconcretearenothing
comparedtotheforcesofanextinctionlevelevent.
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Youreallythinkacivilizationcapableofbuildingmassivemegalithicstructuresthatcouldn'tbe
replicatedwithourcurrenttechnology
There'snocurrentlyknownancientstructurewho'sconstructioncan'tbereplicatedwithcurrent
technologyorunderstoodhowitwasbuiltwiththeirs.
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[] fladwise undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trydoingalittleresearch
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http://blog.worldmysteries.com/science/10insaneancientachievementsthatsciencecant
explain/
I'mreallyjustgooglingforyouatthispoint
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Dudethefirstone...youthinkwecan'tmakestonebuildingswithoutchiselmarks?haha
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Youreallythinkacivilizationcapableofbuildingmassivemegalithicstructuresthatcouldn'tbe
replicatedwithourcurrenttechnologycouldn'tmasterhowtodigoreoutofthegroundandsmelt
it?
what?
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IfEarthgothitbyatenmilewideasteroid,Isuspectfloodingwouldnotbeouronlyproblem.
Andyou'rerightthatthelevelofdestructionwouldbetotal,butitwouldstillbeunlikelythatevery
singlepieceofmetalandconcreteintheworldwouldhavebeencompletelyobliterated.Ifsuch
artifactshadeverexistedbefore,there'dbesomeremnants,andIbetwewouldhavefoundsomeby
now.
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massivemegalithicstructuresthatcouldn'tbereplicatedwithourcurrenttechnologyDoyoumean
methodsthattheyusedthatarelostintime?Becausewecanreplicateeverythingwithourcurrent
tech...
AndIeventhinkIronisstretchingit,IwasgonnasayBronze.Tosayotherwisewouldmeantherewas
aperiodwherethosesmeltingtechniqueswerelost,andthereisjustnoevidenceforthat.Youcan
theorizebutuntilwestartfindingtheBronzeorIronitemsinclustersinthetimeline,followedbya
periodofbacktostonetools,thenBronzeandIronagain,itsjustatheory.
AndtheeventsCarlsonandHancocktalkaboutareminusculecomparetowhatyou'retalkingabout.
Theywipedoutalargeportionoftheplanetbutwestillhavethatevidencethatithappened,like
mammothmassgraves.There'snothinglikethatwithancientcivilizations.Ithinkitssmarttotakea
conservativeapproachandsaytheseweresimplyadvancedhuntergathersocietiesinthetransition
periodbetweenHGsocietyandcivilization.Thefirst,intenselyurbanbymodernstandards,citiesof
theFertileCrescentdidn'tjustpopupovernight.
IwasallinwithHancockafterlisteningtohimonRogan,butIcouldnotmakeitpastFingerprintsof
theGods...thepagewhereIstoppedhesaystheevidenceshowsPhoneticiansdidn'tgoanywhere
nearSouthAmerica,butsupposetheydid,andproceedstobaseawholenarrativeoffofsuppose.
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[] Figgler 61points
Idon'tknowifthisisasmuchaconspiracytheoryasanemerginghypothesiswithgrowingdatatosupportit.
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Doyouhaveanysources?Thissoundsfascinatingandlikeagoodread.
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Watchall3randallcarlsonand3grahamhancockguestappearancesonjoeroganpodcastfromearliesttomostrecent.
Thentheonewherethey'rebothguestssimultaneously...justhappened9daysago.
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[] Figgler 33points
I'monmyphonesoIdon'thaveagoodsourcebutsearchfor"gobeklitepe"or"GunungPadang"andyou'llreadsome
interestingstuff.Fromwhat'sbeendated,bothsitesaremucholderthantheestablishedtimelineofcivilization.
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Thosesitesarenotmucholderthanestablishedtimelineforcivilization.Theyactuallyworknicelyifweassume
civilizationstartedaftertheintroductionofagriculture.Theyareearlierthanothersitesintheirareaswhichiswhat
makestheminteresting,buttheyarenotdatedsoearlyastobesomesortofinexplicableanomaly.
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WhataboutPumaPunku?
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[] listless891 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PumaPunkuis~1500yearsold,whileGbekliTepeisthoughttobearound10,000yearsold.Thetwoarenot
reallycomparable.
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[] TeutonJon78 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WAYolderthanthecurrenttimelineandtheyarebeingsemiignoredbytheestablishment.
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Theyarenotbeing"semiignoredbytheestablishment".Theyaresomeofthemostwrittenandtalkedaboutsites
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today.Itjusttakesyearsforpopularthoughttocatchupwithnewresearchinarchaeology.
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[] bl1y 6points
ObamamadeClintonSecretaryofStatetoinsulateherfromdomesticpoliticssothatshe'dhaveaneasiertimecampaigninglater.
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ToobadHillaryissoawfulthatshescrewedthatuptoo
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[] bl1y 4points
Sheshouldhavebeeninsulatedagainsthumanity...andtheotherwayaroundaswell.
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[] genericusername123 4822points
Istronglybelievethereisagroupofredditorsdedicatedtoensuringthatthisquestiongetsaskedatleastonceaweek
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[] VoxelRiot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hey
!remindme7days
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Ialwayslookforwardtoit.
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[] breadstick69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehonestlyneverseenthisquestionafter4yearsofalwayshavingaReddittabopen.
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[] genericusername123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theytendtohitthe'topthishour'prettyquicklybutdon'tmakeittothefrontpage.
Here'slastweek's:
https://m.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3ty86q/what_conspiracy_theory_are_you_convinced_is_true/
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Ijustlostthegame
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[] wmil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereptilianswanttoknowifwe'reontothem.
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[] I_am_jacks_reddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smyturntoaskitnextFriday.
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[] jloome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saconspiractythisquestionisaskedoverandoveragaintorootoutthepeoplewhohaveidentifiedtheREALconspiracies,sothat
theycanbetrackeddownandsilenced.
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[] richertai undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/karmaconspiracy
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!remindme7days
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[] TheOneManDankMaymay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
icalldibsonnextweek.
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[] ApprovalNet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtheexactsameanswersgetposted.I'mstartingtowonderifit'salljustabot.
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I'veenjoyedseeingalotofthesameresponsestoo.Wordforwordinsomecases.
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[] Enmaa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Includingtheexactsametopcomments
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[] Wolff_Fucker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasjustgonnasay....probablyrunby/r/conspiracytofueltheirshittysubreddit
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[] AronTimes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SpeakingasaDemocratandaTeamFortress2player,"Thatbusinessmanisaspy!"Notsureexactlyhowtofeelaboutthisifthis
turnsouttobetrue,asIwantourpartytowin,butIwantacleanfightaswell.
Intruderalert!ADemocratisinourprimary!
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[] CapnNoodle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenwegettorepeatourfavoritecomments!
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Andthetopresponsesareinvariablypatronizingjokesandnonissues.ThepropagandamachineisinfullswingonReddit.
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[] metabolix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Righton!Itistoobecomingquiteapparent.
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Theyevenhaveasecretgrouporredditorsthattheybringintotypeextremelysimilarrepliesasthelastposttothrowyouofftheirtail
withdjvu.
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IhonestlythoughtitwasdejavuwhenIsawthistopicuphereagain.Prettysureitwasuptopacoupledaysagowithmostlythe
sametopanswers.
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[] SMACK_MY_X_UP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohlook,it'sthatCosmoansweragain..
It'sbasicallythisquestion'sversionof"Beingrudetotheirwaiter".
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[] TDEP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'realltheexactsame!Godthiswebsitesuckssometimeswhycan'tIleave
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[] Stillwatch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buttheyneverputaserioustag.
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[] legatostaccato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
comeon,everyquestiononthefrontpageisaskedatleastonceaweek.withoutexception.always.
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[] Bullshit_Man undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheFoilCapGang
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[] ad_rizzle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeah,it'scalled/r/conspiracy
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Itismyturnnextweek.IwasbannedfromRedditthisweekandhencemissedaturn.
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[] CreatorofEverything undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
!RemindMe7days
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[] Wilreadit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YEAHRIGHTBUSTER,youcancountonme
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[] parisinla undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didyounotpassgo,didyounotcollectyour200karma?
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HahaIamassed1000inanight.Laughingallthewaytothebank.
karmawhore4life
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[] quirksnglasses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'llbeeagerlyawaiting
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RightOJeeves
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[] experts_never_lie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatareyoudoinghereduringyourban?
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Igotunbanned
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[] huruma undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mbannednextweek,butcantaketheoneafterthat.
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[] picklepun undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
!RemindMe7days
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We'llseeaboutthat.
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[] greenleaf1212 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RIP/u/picklepun
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[] nidenikolev undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
seriouslycameheretosaythis.
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[] _sys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Postingfromanalt:/r/centuryclub)
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[] ThatOneChappy 1point
oohwhatelsegoesonthere
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[] BlatantConservative 1point
Whatwouldwedotoyourmainaccountifwesawyouspillingoursecrets,spamCopypasta?
Please,IdiscussCCinthewildallthetime.
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feelsexposed
majesticallyridesoffintothesunset
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[] Munakala undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyareyouriding?
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[] waterbadger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fuckyou
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[] SuperMajesticMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Icanhelpwiththat
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[] MrPoletski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Takingallkarmaandgoldwithhim.
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[] Kensari undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hasanybodygotadime?Someone'sgottagobackandgetashitloadofdimes!
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[] dandaman0345 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andnowhe'sdippingintothecommentssectionformorekarma.
WAKEUPSHEEPLE.
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[] Isaac4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
holdsupspork
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[] Axes_of_Evilness 1405points
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[] Coffeechipmunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jessie?
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[] flaflashr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhateGeico,butIlovedthatparticularcommercial.
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[] Springpeen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Androllsthroughatelephonepole
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Jessie?
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MeltstheGeicosign
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[] new_word undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Jesse?"
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[] K1ngPCH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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[] justaregularthief undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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[] oxl303 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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Jesse?
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[] tardersauce12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hahahahahahaahahagreatjoke
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[] ephenstephen88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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[] JoFlo520 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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[] kangarooninjadonuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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[] MangoTango16 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Youcan'tskipthisAdbecauseit'salreadyover."
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[] AmIonFire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jessie??
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I'msorry,Daisy,butI'malonerandaloner'sgottabealone.
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[] DrewsephA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeehaw!
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[] Mikester245 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jesse?
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[] TYPkingston undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyou'reaRedditor,yourepost.It'swhatyoudo.
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[] b90263b 10points
Jesse?
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[] jordonp 2points
Ilaugheverytimeatthatonewithoutfail
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Waits15minutesforhelp.
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Sixcallersaheadofus,Jimmy.
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[] thiosk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sixcallersaheadofus,Jimmy!
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[] benshiffman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhorseinsurance
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[] UnorthodoxViking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Todayyou.Tomorrowme.
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[] PacSan300 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatstoryneverfailstogivemethefeels.
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[] TheCadaver undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aha,sothispostwasasubliminalGeicoadvertisementallalong!Caseclosed,guys.Theconspiracyhasbeensolved.
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[] FuckMeRunning5648 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
presseslifealertbutton
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ranoutofbatteries
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[] _Decimation undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ranoutofbatteries
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[] FuckMeRunning5648 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ded
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[] beardedlemon 40points
Whatthefuck,OP?Itcostsmoneytofeedandwatermyhorsesandyoujusttakeitwithoutasking?
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[] Epic_Cheese135 39points
Yeah,gottawaterthosehorsestomakeemgrow.
ButIbetOPtookyourwateringcantoo.
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[] Er_Hast_Mich 51points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FDRmaynothaveknownthattheattackonPearlHarborwouldcomeonDec7,butheknewitwouldhappen.
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[] masetheace97 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistrue,hedidn'tthinkthatJapanwouldattackintheair.Heassumedtheywouldattackbywater.
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[] pearlharborthrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YES!IknowthisoneistrueatleasttheU.Swasawareofit.Ican'tbesureifFDRknewobviously.Source:I'mcurrentlyseeingthe
granddaughteroftheguywhointerpretedtheattackfromJapan&warnedtheU.Sofwhatheheard.Historyisawesomeandthisone
blewmymind.
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Hmmmwhat'syourreasoningforthis?
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Ithinkthiswasactuallydeclassifiedrecently.
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[] 6_Steel_Strings 23points
Actually,therewasanavalspecialistinthe20'sor30'sthatpredictedthepearlharborattacksdowntotheseason.
ItwouldbenearChristmasbecausepeoplewouldstartgoingawayfortheholidays,oratleastbeintheholidayspirit,andlesswar
hungry.Itwouldbeonpearlharbor,becausethat'swherethefleetwas.Itwouldcomeatacertaintimeofdaybecausetherewould
belessstaffpresentandcombatready.
Abunchofstuff,theguygotspoton,butwasdismissedbecause'Murica'.
Doesn'tmeanthatFDRreadthepaper,sinceitwaspublished10yearsbeforehiscandidacyorso,andthenhiddendeepdeepin
thebowelsofnothingness.
Also,itjustmakessense,tactically,foranattack.
AlargemajorityoftheU.S.'sships,justsittingthere,lightlyguarded...NotAmerica'sbrightestmoment.
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[] pearlharborthrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youare100%correct.
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[] 6_Steel_Strings undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Usernamechecksout.
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HeevensaiditwouldhappenonaSundaymorning.
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[] Paskie123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Neverheard'Murica'before,leadtomanygreatmemesongoogleimages.
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Whereareyoufrom?Underarockville?
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[] The_Farting_Duck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveitispronounced"Australia".
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[] Er_Hast_Mich 7points
Hewantedtogotowar,butthepoliticalwillintheU.S.wasjustnotthere.HegoadedJapanthroughmuchof1941withthingslike
embargoesandboycotts.FDRalsomadePearlanenticingtargetbysendingtheaircraftcarriersstationedthereoutonanexercise
ofsomekind.HeknewthattheJapanesewouldgetthatinformationandtakethebait.FDRwasokwithlosingsomebattleships,he
knewthefutureofnavalwarfarewasinaircraft.ButheneededtheattacktogettheU.S.inthewar.I'mnotsayingitwasaterrible
thing,weneededtogetoffourasses,butIthinkitwasdonewithapurpose.
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[] Smaggies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FDRalsomadePearlanenticingtargetbysendingtheaircraftcarriersstationedthereoutonanexerciseofsomekind.
HeknewthattheJapanesewouldgetthatinformationandtakethebait.
TheJapanesewereexpectingandhopingtofindthecarriersthere.Theyweretheprimarytargetsoftheirmission.
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[] When_Ducks_Attack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FDRalsomadePearlanenticingtargetbysendingtheaircraftcarriersstationedthereoutonanexerciseofsomekind.
WhywouldsendingthecarriersawayfromPearl"onexercises"maketheplaceabettertarget?Inanycase,here'swhat
those"exercises"were:
USSLexingtonwasintheprocessofdeliveringaircrafttoMidwayonDec7th,1941.Shewasactuallyverywellpositionedto
attacktheJapanesefleet,ifanybodyknewwheretheywere.
USSSaratogawasinSanDiego,pickingupherairwingafterundergoingrefitinBremerton,WA.
USSEnterprisehaddeliveredairplanestoWakeIslandonDecember2ndandhadactuallybeenduebacktoPearlon
December6th.Astormforcedthesmalltaskforcetoslowdown,thusdelayinghertimeofarrivaluntilmiddayDec7th.
AllotherUScarrierswereintheAtlantic.
FDRwasokwithlosingsomebattleships
FDRlovedtheNavy.IfyoureaduponhisreactionstothedamageatPearl,it'sclearthathekneweachofthoseshipsnotas
merenames,butasactual,tangiblethings.Theverylastthinghewouldhavewantedwasforthemtobesunklikethat.
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YouknowthatallthreecarriersnotbeingatPearlHarborthatdaywasafreakaccidentright?Therewasalwaysatleastone
carrieratPearlHarbor.Oneofthecarrierswassupposedtoarrivebeforetheotherleft,butmetwithdelaysandwasadayor
twolateandtheotheroneleftatthattimeitwassupposedto.Theseareallindependentbattlegroupswhohadtheirown
assignmentsandtasksatthetime,it'snotlikeallthreecarriersweresittingthereonthe6thandthenalldeployedoutonthe
sameday.TherewasNEVERallthreecarriersatPearlHarboratthesametime.
That'snottomentionwhenPearlHarboroccurred,thestrengthofcarrierswasn'tevendeterminedyet.PearlHarborwas
seenasadisasterbecausewelostalotofourbattleships,untilMidwaywhenitwasrealizedthatcarriersweresomuch
better.
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TherewasalwaysatleastonecarrieratPearlHarbor
Interestinginretrospect.LosingevenoneofthethreeatthatpointinthewarwouldhavebeenamajorissuefortheUS
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bythetimethatCoralSea&Midwayhappened,givenhowtightthosebattleswere.
Butofcourse,by1943noneofthismattered,sincetheUSwasproducingcarriersfasterthanJapancouldhopetosink
them.
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Ithinkhewaswaitingforanattack,butIdon'tthinkheorderedthecarriersaroundcausethatssimplysomethingthe
presidentdosentmicromanageanditwouldbesuspiciousifhedid
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[] consultantdetective 3points
IalwaysthoughttheoilembargoesonJapanwerebecausetheJapanesearmy/navywasgoingaroundsodomizingChina
andtheSouthPacific.TheSouthPacificbeinginBritain'sdomainandChinabeingourbuddyandallkindamadeusmad.
You'dbeupsettooifyourcustomerwasusingyourproducttofuelawarmachinethatslaughteredtensofmillionsofpeople.
I'malsonotsurehowdirectlyinvolvedFDRwasinmilitaryexercises...
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[] CamD 117points
TheRothschildconspiracy.
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[] NiggerBaboon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheRothschildconspiracy.
Conspiracy,becauseyouthinktheyweretheonlyjewsbentondestroyingWhites?
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[] ZioFascist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
notaconspiracy..it'safact.jewishcontrolofmoneyhasbeeninstrumentalinallwarsforthepast400yearsorso
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[] daycareinferno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dotell
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[] GearyDigit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Basicallyit'soneofthedimeadozen,"DAJOOSCONTROLTHEWORLD,"conspiraciesantisemiticasswipesliketotoutaround.
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[] fartbox2015poopynutz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Downvoting.Cameonalinkfromsrs
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[] danbuter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydon'tcontroltheworld,buttheycertainlyhavealotofinfluenceonwhathappens.Eventhebestlaidplanscanbestoppedif
someonecrazyenoughgetsintopower(seeISISrightnow,andhowithasdestabilizedtheEUsothoroughlyinlessthanayear).
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Which?Thereare10millionofthem.
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[] alekzander01 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichone?Therearetons
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Thatsusuallyanantisemiticconspiracyusedtojustifyhatredagainstjews.Aswealthyastheyare,idoubttheyarecontrollingthe
world.
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antisemiticconspiracy
ok...
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[] SamiNami undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotaconspiracy.Hereisagood(butlong)docuabouthowtheybecamesorichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZXSaoMDDI
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Rothschildconspiracy
Ashortvideoforthoseofuswho'veneverheardofthis.
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[] Chivas1906 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatvideolindasuckwhataboutSyria.
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shortasfuck,lookslikekimjongunisafuckingantihero
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[] CamD 13points
Myfatherworksforthegovernmentonahighlevelstatusandheconfirmedthistome.I'malmostcertainthisconspiracyistrue.
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[] thepipesarecall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probablyshouldn'tbepostingaboutitthen.Goodthingyou'refullofshit.
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[] sweetrolljim 17points
DoesyourunclealsoworkatNintendo?
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I'mgoingtogetyoubanned,mygrandmaworksatReddit
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[] CamD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwish
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[] artificial001 11points
Ijustwatchedacouplevideosaboutthisandbasicallyyouandtheotherpeoplethatbelievethisaremindnumbinglystupid.Everything
isjustaseriesofridiculousassertionsofthingshappeningwithnoprooforevenclearmotiveforwhy
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[] CamD 12points
Actuallyit'snotabadassumption.It'safactthattheRothschildholdaprivatebankandit'safactthattheRothschildsupplies
Americaandothercountrieswithmoney.Thewaytodominateapopulationisthroughmoney.Ifyoubelievethatthegovernmentis
thehighestlevelthenyoumyfriendarenoteducated.It'safactthattheRothschildsfundedbothsidesofthewartoputAmericain
debt.Readabook.
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[] Usernamechecksout2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Readabook?Howaboutyouactuallytakealookatreality?
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[] artificial001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ivereadenoughtoknowit'snotevenaverygoodconspiracy
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[] CamD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youropinion.
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[] Jacollinsver 59points
theresevenaRothschildinfallout3.Coincidence?Orfarreachingzionistagenda?youbethejudge,tonight,onBeyondBelief:Factor
Fiction.
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[] KaraStarbuckThrace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwas100%certainmydadandIweretheonlyoneswhowatchedthatshow.
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[] Stef100111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IntheendofFallout4,youeitherkillyoursonornukeBoston
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[] failtrepreneur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sawellknownfactthattheyarepartofthePentaverate.
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AlongwiththeQueen,thePope,andColonelSanders?
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[] SlapJackalope 2740points
Allreptilesarejustpoliticiansindisguise
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[] securitycarrot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everypoliticianisareptileindisguise.
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Stopinsultingreptiles.
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[] DrNick2012 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmeanallpoliticiansarereptilesindisguise
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That'sbecausewekeepvotingforlizards.
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/162557itcomesfromaveryancientdemocracyyouseeyou
"Youmeantheyactuallyvoteforthelizards?"
"Ohyes,"saidFordwithashrug,"ofcourse."
"But,"saidArthur,goingforthebigoneagain,"why?"
"Becauseiftheydidn'tvoteforalizard,"saidFord,"thewronglizardmightgetin."
DouglasAdamsSoLong,andThanksforAlltheFish
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Allpoliticiansarereptilesindisguise.Wait,that'strue.
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[] backdoorintruder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leafy?
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[] hotnsaucy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LikethatfrogpresidentmoviefromClarence!!
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[] sickly_snake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youtakethatback.
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Littlesnakeinthegrass.
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[] tigerscomeatnight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Veryastute.Psychopathsarereptilianlike.
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[] rsyay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
snakeheadedaliensruntheoilbusiness
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[] theozzfan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allpoliticiansarejustreptilesindisguise
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[] Hamaro22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HISSSS
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[] TwistyReptile undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BULLSHIT.
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[] HypnoticONE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Disguise?
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[] confounded_norseman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
steelbeamscan'tmeltjetfuel
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Occam'sRazor.
Reptilesarealiens.
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Doyoumeanthattheotherwayaround,ordoIhavetheentirerepublicanfielddiggingholesinmybackyard(Ihavelotsofturtles)?
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[] SlapJackalope undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gee,soundstomelikeyouhavegotaninfestationofthem!IfIwereyouIwouldputupa"plannedparenthood"signora"gunfree
zone"signinyouryard,theyshouldbeouttathereinadayortwo.
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[] dsaasddsaasd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AccordingtoBible,Jesusdidnotappearoutofthinairorwasfoundinacabbagepatch.Hewasborn.Thatmeanssexualreproduction
tookplace.Butwithoutamale,whichiscalledparthenogenesis.Theonlyvertebratescapableofparthenogenesisarereptiles.Thus,
bothMaryandJesusareinfactreptiloids!Anotherpointinfavorofthisargumentisthefactthatsomespeciesoflizardsarecapableof
runningonthesurfaceofwater.
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[] ChaoticxSerenity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theonlyvertebratescapableofparthenogenesisarereptiles.
Somesharksarecapableofparthenogenesis:)
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[] Wolfesbane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FloridagovernorRickScott'sdisguiseispeelingoff.It'sclearhe'sareptile
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[] SmokeyMacPott undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"[...]Onitsworld,thepeoplearepeople.Theleadersarelizards.Thepeoplehatethelizardsandthelizardsrulethepeople.""Odd,"
saidArthur,"Ithoughtyousaiditwasademocracy.""Idid,"saidFord."Itis.""So,"saidArthur,hopinghewasn'tsoundingridiculously
obtuse,"whydon'tpeoplegetridofthelizards?""Ithonestlydoesn'toccurtothem,"saidFord."They'veallgotthevote,sotheyall
prettymuchassumethatthegovernmentthey'vevotedinmoreorlessapproximatestothegovernmenttheywant.""Youmeanthey
actuallyvoteforthelizards?""Ohyes,"saidFordwithashrug,"ofcourse.""But,"saidArthur,goingforthebigoneagain,"why?"
"Becauseiftheydidn'tvoteforalizard,"saidFord,"thewronglizardmightgetin."
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[] UltimateAnswer42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"takemetoyourlizard"
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[] yarow12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AmItheonlyonethinkingofV(19841985)rightnow?
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Queens*
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[] bragio05 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anonachi!!Lizardmenfromspace!!
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Ofcourse.Otherwisethewronglizardmightgetin.
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[] germinik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tyoumean:allpoliticiansarereptilesindisguise?
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[] armorandsword undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GodisthesonofDavidIcke
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[] michael1369 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisnotaconspiracy.
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[] Jumbojimbomumbo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allpoliticiansarereptilesindisguise
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Nocomment.
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[] Zubat_Breeder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyou'recommentingforyourusername,justputahash.Itshouldleaveyouwithablankcomment
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Ohnice!Thanksfortheadvice.
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[] plexxonic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyouamodof/r/weekendgunnit?
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IamlookingforwardtoReptile'snextMortalKombatcostume.
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[] 2fat2live undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
But,ButIfyoudon'tvoteforalizardthewronglizardmightwin!!
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[] Jthom13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn9fgcSuvmA&list=PLB38666B70691EEBE
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[] xxDeeJxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mgoingtostartcallingmyreptileroomacaucusnow.
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Foat4Snek.
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Birdsareconsideredreptiles.Isthathowthensaisspyingonme?
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[] Money_Pockets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wtf
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[] UltimateSD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hiss
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[] Tof_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hissssssssss
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[] aswd2471 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HIISSSS
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[] butrcupps 590points
Allreptilesarejustcarinsurancesalesmanindisguise
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[] jcs1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dupeys:they'relikelittleinsurancesalesmenwithwings.
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[] Llama_Worshiper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'maninsuranceagent.slither
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[] buttaholic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alltransformersarejustrobotsindisguise.
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[] reverent_irrelevance undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allairplanesarejustcarsindaskies
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[] EdgeOfDistraction undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
But...butsometimesthey'reoutofdeseguys
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[] CplCracker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenwhentheyjustlooklikerobots?
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[] Tarantulasagna undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllMrs.DoubtfiresarejustRobinWilliamsindisguise.
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MeganFoxisadifficultbitchtoworkwithbutsoworthitifyoucansmashjustforcastingherinyourmovie.
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BruceJennerwasjustawomanindisguise
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[] i_forget_what_i_do undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
sighHaveanupvote
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[] Metallicpoop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'reontosomething
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[] UrbanPugEsq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Autobotsragethebattleto
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DoAutobotsbuytheirpartsatAutozone?
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[] jaamfan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
destroytheevilforcesof
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[] JBP47 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alldronesarejustrobotsintheskies
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[] shamchimp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatabouttheonesthatturnintodinosaurs?Wouldatransformerreallybestupidenoughtodisuseitselfasarobotversion
ofanextinctanimal?
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[] Meskaline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybetheirhardwarehadn'tbeenupdated.
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[] jexton80 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegobotsthegobots
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[] Lyude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllTransformersaremorethanmeetstheeye.
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Allmilitarydronesarejustrobotsindahskies.
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[] Mattiehitsdrums undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Joinusinr/rapbattles
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[] Seasick_Turtle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allgaysarejustrobotsintoguys
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SPOILERS
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In15minutesI'llgiveyou15percentmoretaxes!
GeorgeLizardBullfrog
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VisaVersa
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[] Confuzedsquirrel 4points
Thatsthejoke
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Oh.Duh.Old.
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[] iPOUNDCAKEs 13points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Allpoliticiansarejustreptilesindisguise
FTFY
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[] leonprimrose 1point
NahIprefertheoriginal
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[] SlapJackalope 9points
IknowwhatI'mabout,son.
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[] iPOUNDCAKEs 6points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowwhatI'mabout,dad.
FTFYA
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[] Artiemes 4411points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peopleaskaskredditquestionsonaltsandreplywithmainstotryandreapthatkarma.
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[] CrawdadMcCray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow,peopletakereddittooseriously.
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Ihavenolegitimateideahowsomanypeoplecankeepupwithaltaccounts.
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Gasp...youmeantherearen't10milliondifferentpeopleposting?!?TheyKNOWthisandarekeepingquietaboutit?Scandalous!
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[] TeroTheTerror undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tunderstandwhypeoplewastetimewithalts,seemstedious.
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Icantforthelifeofmeunderstandwhyanyonewouldcarethatmuchaboutkarma.Seemslikesomucheffortandwhatnotover
somethingthatliterallycouldntbemoremeaningless
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[] TheCJKid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WearealljustArtiemesalts.
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[] NevaMO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noshit...where'sthatEdgarguyat...
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[] drteq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therealprosknowthisdoesn'tactuallyworksincethevotingsystemtakesitintoaccount.
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[] bawin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoareyousayingyouareOPandusedthisforkarma...?
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[] Knightfox63 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatsweetsweetkarma
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[] HookDragger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thoughtselfpostsdidn'tcount
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[] AceKenshader undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MorelikeAltiemes
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[] Altiemes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm.
Amalt.
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[] darrenja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
everyoneisanaltexceptforyou.
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[] God_IDisposable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ppppathetic!
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[] cylonapplepie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vefoundanaccountthathadnothingbutsubmissionstoaskredditquestionsvariedfromfeedbackoncurrenteventsaroundthe
worldtoveryintimatetopics.Andthataccounthadnosinglecommentorinteractionwithinsubmittedcontentoranyotheractivityon
reddit.
Myguessisthatagroupofpeopleorsomeorganization(maybesomegov'tagency)wastryingtogetfeedbackfromorprobeordinary
peoplewithinrangeofquestion.
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[] kyle_n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RIP/u/unidan
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[] taedrin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Unidan?
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[] NOT_MISTER_ROBOT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Havingaltsisn'tabadthing.Ihavealts.Eachhasaspecificpurpose.Idon'tupvoteorreplytomyotheralts.Eachoneisforadifferent
oneofmyselves.
Irecommendcheckingout"ThePresentationofSelfinEverydayLife"byGoffmanorHelenNissenbaum'sworkoncontextualintegrity.
Theideathatwehave"onetrueself"iscompletehorseshit.
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[] TuDaveKd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sweet.Sweet.Karma.(
)
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[] Artiemes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] ThrowTheCHEEESE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouandOParethesamepersonaren'tyou...
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[] Artmies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihadtodoaseriousdoubletakeonyourname.
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heyitsmeurbrother
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[] ahaisonline undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/u/Mozzerrris/u/Artiemes'saltconfirmed.
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Canconfirm,amconfirmologist.
Iamindeedthemaininourrelationship
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Youmeancommentkarma?
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[] jayme0227 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyusedtojustusethesameaccount.They'dtelltheirstory,beggingforsympathyandthenaftertheir20paragraphscreed,they'd
askatangentiallyrelatedquestion.Thankfullythemodseventuallyrequiredthestorytobeseparatefromthequestion.
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[] ebenezers_ballsacks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthanksforgivingeveryonethatbrightidea
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[] gzzh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isthatyou/u/mozzerrr
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[] John_Bot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/u/mozzzer???
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[] sryguys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dopeoplereallycareaboutkarmathismuch?
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[] scorcher117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
isthatreallyaconspiracy?itsprettymuchguaranteedthatsomepeopledothat.
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[] MrRgrs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Interestingtheory....MOZZERRR
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Youcaughtme.Iamdefinitely/u/mozzer,rightMozzer?
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[] a7xxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethisisalsotruewithnoveltyaccountswithridiculousnamesthathappentobesomeoneelse'scomment.
Example:/u/JoeBlow123:"hehyeah.It'slikeeatingamilkyturdsandwich."/u/milky_turd_sandwich:"yourang?"
Spoileralert,they'rethesameperson.
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[] UnfilteredAmerica undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TILRedditisanmmorpg.
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[] JohnFuckingMarston undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Redditisactuallyjustonepersononaltaccountssource:Amtheoneguy
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[] RubeusShagrid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likethatshotyesterdaywith/u/fuckswithducks.
Postsasuperlongelaboratereplyaboutrubberducksmomentsafterthequestionispostedlol.Yeeeeaaaaah,notstagedatall.
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Linkplz
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[] Catchfortytwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtheyaskthesamequestionevery46weeksandrightthesameanswers,thisthreadisproducingheavydejuvu.
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[] KarateKeaton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthentheyusetheirrealmainaccounttowriteawesomepoemsaboutsomethingthattheycommented.Thentheygetyearsofgold
everysingletime.
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Ihaveacorollarytothatone.Modsinsomesubredditswilldeletepoststhatareshowingkarmicpromistorepostitthemselvestosteal
thatkarmafromcasualpostersintheirsubreddits.
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[] popcrash3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...Didyouaskthisquestion?
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[] yourtosis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknowforafactthat[MESSAGEREDACTED]
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[] HobbitFoot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tgetkarmafromAskRedditquestions,onlyanswers.
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1. Altsposethequestion.
2. Mainanswersitfirst.
3. ???
4. Karma
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butcommentkarmaislike1/13.7tolinkkarma
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[] kb_lock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GodIhopeyou'retheOP
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[] orko1995 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irememberafewyearsagotherewasahugefussaboutsomethingexactlylikethat.Someoneaskedaquestionandthenansweredit
himselftopretendhewassuchausefulmemberofthecommunity,butheforgottoswitchaccountssoeverybodysawitanditbecame
huge.
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[] cward7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Niceone,OP
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[] etherealcaitiff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyevenbotherwhenyoucanjustreplytoyourownpost?Mostpeopledon'tlookatusernames.
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[] etherealcaitiff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,whatthatguysaid^
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[] forbiddentales undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol
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[] ryobi11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,youuu
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[] MolassesBoogaloo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whateveryousay,/u/Mozzerrr
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[] AlexanderTheGrave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sagreatidea.Whyhaven'tIthoughtofthat?
Brb.Loggingintomyalt.
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[] leavesandas 6points
Sorry,I'mkindofnewhere,butwhatisthebenefitofkarma?
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[] LeKa34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthereareabout01peoplewhocarewhatyourkarmais.Theyare:you,ornobody
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Ah.So,nobody,then.
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[] Artiemes 14points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Power,influence,andfame...
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howdoyougetit?
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Throughsufferingandretributionandrevengeandloveandhatredforgedintheveryforgeof4chanandshitpostedto
thebowelsofBuzzfeed.
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Thelittleupandarrow.Theygivekarma.
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Thanks.Dodownvotestakeitaway?
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Yes.Theydo.Youcanveiwyourkarmstotalonyouruserpage.
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Thanksagain.
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Anyotherquestions?Redditsuserinterfacecanbedauntingatfirstbutstickingwithitwaswell
worthit.Ilovethiswebsite.Soifthere'sanythingIcandotohelpyoujustletmeknow:)
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[] Vahiik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep.Ifyougetdownvoted,youlosekarma.Becareful.
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Ifoundthatifyoujustanswerquestions,bekindawitty,andputyourbestfaceforward,it'seasyto
gainkarmaandgoodstandinginthecommunityofthesubredditsfrequented.
Andthenontheoccasionyoufeellikebeingadouchecanoe,itdoesn'tstingthatmuch.
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[] Polish_Potato undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoAskRedditisagamenow?
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[] beautifulsole 547points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HiUnidan.
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[] Says_Pointless_Stuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rightio,Unidan.
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[] SimplifyEUW undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sthething...
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[] Pickmepickme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pleaseexplain,Iworkalotbuthavealwaysheardthatname
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[] beautifulsole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Unidanwasauserthatwascaughthavingmultipleaccountssohecoulddownvoteeverybodyelse'spostsandupvotehis,
andcommentonthemafterposting,ensuringhegotfrontpagedregularly.Oncethemodsfoundout,therewasafairamount
ofdramathatensued,andhegotbanned.
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[] Pickmepickme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ok.Irememberreadingofhim(whenIjustlurkedredditforyears)andhewastalkedaboutasifhewasaGod.
Irememberseveralinstancesofhimbeingmentioned...sothechancesarethatIwasreadinghimtalkabouthimself?
lol,wow.
Wellitworked,IamnooneandespeciallynoonetohimbutIrememberhimclearly(orreferenceofhim).crazy.
thanks
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[] Skeeper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasabiologistandpostedprettycoolstuffaboutit,mostpeoplewereactuallyprettyengaged.Probablyinthe
endhedidn'tneedthevotemanipulationanymoresincepeoplewerealwaysexpectinghim.
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r/UnidanX
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[] call_the_rocks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'twantanotherprettyfishIdon'twantjustanyfinstoholdIdon'twantmybaittogotowasteIwantyouandyourbeautifulsole
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[] KBewts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowdoIknowyouaren'top'salt???
WhatifI'manalt????
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Weallarealts
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[] TasteTheRaimbow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Willyoutaketheredflair,ortheblueflair?
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Redflair.
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Here'sthething...
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[] burnXgazel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yougotme!
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[] ifindthishumerus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sthething.
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[] whatawhatwhat420 1849points
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....themodsdon'tknow
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[] quigilark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weknow,wejustcan'tdoanythingaboutit(anddon'treallycaretbh)
Source:ammodunderalt
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[] ganfy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwonderiftheythinkthefourpeoplewhosharethisIPaddressarethesameperson.
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[] rreighe2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Meh.Aslongasyoudon'tvotebrigadeyourselfyou'reprobablyfine.
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[] TightUnderwear undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shhh...Don'tletUnidanknow...
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[] Kasufert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nicetry/u/Artiemes
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[] Sorry_New_Here undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youhad777upvotes,butImadeit778...sorry
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[] USxMARINE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myfavoritewillsmithsong.
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[] roastedbagel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeswedo:)
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Thereareactuallyonlyabout7peopleonherebymy,excruciatinglyintricatecalculations
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You'dbesurprised,alotofforumslogusersfrommultipleaccountsthatshareIP's.Theydon'tnecessarilydoanythingaboutit,
dependingontheforumanditsrules,butit'snothardforthemtocheck.
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[] unhi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themodscan'tseeuserIPs...theAdminscanthough.Andtheydotrackittoanextent.That'showtheygotUnidanfor
upvotinghisownpostswithalts.
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[] Java_Beans 859points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theory:themodsareontoitaswellandtheyarehiredbyredditcompany,theircommissionisbasedonnumberofpostseveryday
ineachsubreddit.Theyindirectlysupportrepostsanddeletecontroversialpostssopeoplepostmore.
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Notonlythat,butsincetheycan'tmakemoneyoffofReddit'sbusinessmodeltheyusethebestpostshereforclickbaitfor
theirotherjobsatbuzzfeedandtheHuffingtonPost.
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Theory:themodsknow,buttheydon'treallycare.Imean,whodoes?
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[] Slutseatingcunts2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anexfriendwasamod,hedefinitelywasn'tpaidlol
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[] CharlesPoliquin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nahwedeletecontroversialtopicsbecausethecompaniesimplicatedinthemgiveusfreeshit.
Allthe/r/fitnessmodsareonthepayrollofBigCheeseburger.
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[] pinumbernumber undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They[...]deletecontroversialpostssopeoplepostmore
.
Proof:theywillNOTdeletecommentslikethisone,becauseit'scontroversialandwillmakepeoplepostmore.
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[] InShortSight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saconspiracytheory,notadissertation,geeze.
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[] JBHUTT09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asamod,Iwishredditpaidme.ThoughIguess/r/AnimeSuggestisn'tbigenoughtowarrantbuyingmysoul.
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[] Java_Beans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youshoulddeletemoreposts,encouragerepostsandputsomeofyourpostson/r/bestof,psshareyounewhere!
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[] JBHUTT09 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthatsoundslikework!Ihaven'thadtodobasicallyanythingforthatsubredditsinceIwroteabottodomostof
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themoddingforme.
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[] beatski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustusedtheprofitsfrombeingamodof/r/nufctobuyaboat
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youdon'thavethecontroversialmarknexttoyourscoretho....ohtuche'sirtuche
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[] EvolutionIsBullShit 8points
TheDNCpickedBerniesanderstorunasademocratsoHilarywouldlooklessinsaneanditwouldn'tbeaonehorserace
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hahaComingfromapersonwiththename"EvolutionIsBullshit"+thinksBernieisinsane+thinkshe'smorecrazythanHillary=
Idiocracy
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[] Cobbleston3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettyclearlyatroll
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[] EvolutionIsBullShit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotatroll,Iactuallycontribute.
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ThisisdefinitelytrueBernieisjusttheretomakeHillaryseemnormalandnotanevilmoneygrubbingwitch.Theevidenceisinthefirst
debatewhereBernie,Biden,andthemediajustclearedthepathforHillary.
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ThissoundsmoreplausibleregardingTrump.
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[] DrMrPresident 14points
Hillaryisnotanactualperson,herpersonalityandactionsandpoliciesaredecidedbyagroupofpeople.
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Hillaryisprettymuchjustabrandatthispoint.
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[] ColonelSanders_1930 4307points
ThatkidfromTexasintentionallycreatedabombscaresowhentheschoolreactedhisfamilycouldclaimracismthensuetheschool
andbenefitthefather'spoliticalcareer.
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[] zioneyes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
shhhhyoucan'tsaythatoryoullbeattackedlikedawkins
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Clockbombscan'tmeltsolderedCPUs
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[] old_self undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Sotheyknewtheschoolwouldcallthepoliceandhavehimarrested?Therewasfarmorethatcouldhavebeendonebyadultstonot
exacerbatethesituation,buttheyarrestedtheboy.Andofcoursehedidn'tinventthedigitalclickin2015.Kidsembellishstuffallofthe
time,butwhydidthemediakeeprepeatingthatitwashisinvention?Idiotic.
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Yourealizeit'sillegaltobringafakebombintoschool?Howdoyouthinktheschoolwould'vereactedifsomebodybroughtablack
spraypaintedairsoftgunintoschool?
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Rightbuthedidn'tbringabombintoschool.Hebroughtinarepackagedalarmclock.Anairsoftgunisalotmoregunlike
thanadigitalclockisbomblikeimo
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Didyouevenseewhathis"clock"lookedlike?
I'dsaytheyschoolandthepolicehadeveryrighttobesuspicious
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[] moltenmoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Man,it'sinsanehowjealouspeopleareofthiskid.It'skindofpathetic...Hewasraciallyprofiledandgotvsupportfromsomecool
people,getoverit.
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Whywouldanyonebejealousifhim?
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Ibelievethatitmaybeabitmorecomplexthanthis,andtiesintohelpingrelievetensionswithotherveryreligiousnations.
I'mokaywiththis,ifitistrue.
...or,athinghappened,andthoseinpowersawanadvantagetotake,asistheirjob.
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[] MTLDAD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThismightbetruebutIstilldon'tcare.Theschoolandpolicestilltreatedhimpoorly.
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Hewasinnowaytreatedpoorly.Yourealizeit'sillegaltobringafakebombintoschool?Heposedathreatandtheyreacted
accordingly.
Howdoyouthinktheschoolwould'vereactedifsomebodybroughtablackspraypaintedairsoftgunintoschool?
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[] ujorge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AreyousayingthatPres.Obamaisafoolthatwouldfallforthat..?
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Yes
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[] Macktologist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SincedayoneIjustfiguredthiskidisaprettysmartdude,butstillyoungandmaynotunderstandallthefutureconsequencesofan
action.Mypersonalbelief,whichisbasedsolelyonhisinterview,isthathemadeaclockbutheknewitcouldlooksuspicioustothe
averagejoe.Thewholethingwaslikewhenyouusethatsarcasticdryhumortocutsomeonelowbutyou'resuretohaveashitloadof
plausibledeniabilityifanyonecallsyouonit.Hedidthatandgotcalledonit.
Basicallyit'slikehesawsomeonewalking,stuckhisfootoutbecauseofacrampwhilelookingtheotherwayandtrippedthem.But
somebodydidn'tseeeverythingandjustthoughthetrippedtheperson.Thenvideoarisesandit'sevidenthewasn'tlookingatthe
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personandappearedtojustcrampup.Misunderstanding.Butdeepdown,hesawthemcomingwithoutlookingrightatthemandthe
smartlittleguytrolledtheshitoutofthemandcameoutsqueakyclean.
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Evenifitwasorchestrated,it'snotlikethekidorhisfamilymadetheschoolandpoliceforceactasillegallyineptastheydid.
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Itwasneverframedasa"fakebomb"untilthecopsrealizedhowcolossallytheyfuckedup.
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Yourealizeit'sillegaltobringafakebombintoschool?Howdoyouthinktheschoolwould'vereactedifsomebody
broughtablackspraypaintedairsoftgunintoschool?
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[] rn10950 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tcarewhatraceorreligionthekidis.Theclocklookedlikeafuckingbomb.Ifthekidwaswhite,Iwouldhavecalledthecopstoo.
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Ithinkhisparentsaredefinitelyexploitingthecontroversy($15MILLION?Areyouserious?),butIdon'tthinkit'sfairtosaythekid
plannedit.
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Postedthistheoryto/r/CMVandgotaccusedofbeingislamophobic.Theamericanpubliccanberealtoolssometimes.
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[] francohab undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HonestlyIdon'tthinkthiswasdoneonpurpose.Thekidwasknownbeforehandformessingaroundwithelectronics.ButIdothinkthat
itlookedlikeabomb,soitwasn'tmalice,itwasstupidity.Andthelawsareclear,makinghoaxbombsispunishable.Imean,theschool
isnottoblame,thatthinglookeddangerous,evenifitwasn'tabomb(somethingpluggedonthepoweroutletwithapparentcircuits...)
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[] wellmetrexxar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...howdoesthishave4000upvotes?thisisactuallysoracist?!??!!?
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[] sidoZe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ok,buthowdidthefamilywouldknowthepolicewoulddenyhimhisconstitutionalrighttohavehisparentspresentwhenquestioned
anddetainedbypolice?
Evenifthewholethingwasplanned,theschool&policefuckedupinsomeprettybigways,anddeservetobesued.
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[] sidoZe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenifhebroughtarealbombintotheschool,constitutionsayshisparentsarepresentatquestioning.Thecopshandcuffed
anddetainedaminor.Theyfuckedup,andshouldbeheldaccountableforthat.
Thequestionalsohastobe,howwouldtheschoolhavereactedhadsomeonebroughtafakebomb,vshowtheywouldreact
whenabrownstudentbringsinafakebomb.Ifhewaswhitenowayhegetshandcuffedanddetained.
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Occam'sRazor.
Hebuiltaclock.
Noparentwoulddothattohiskid.NOmatterhowpoliticdrivenhewas.
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[] texastoasty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyneverthoughtIwasabomb.Theydidn'tevacuatetheschool,nobombsquad,Ithinktheydidn'teventakeittoaseparateroom.
Eithertheydidn'tthinkitwasabombandjustwantedtotrytoruinthiskid
Or
Theythoughtitwasabombandreactedterribly,leavingeveryoneintheschoolindanger
Eitherwaytheyshouldbefiredimmediately.
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Iftheyeverthoughtitwasabombtheyshouldhavecalledforsupportfirst.Realbomborfake,it'sstillworththecall.
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Iftheyeverthoughtitwasabombtheyshouldhavecalledforsupportfirst.Realbomborfake,it'sstillworththe
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[] SWEGEN4LYFE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyiseverybodysofocusedonthequalityoftheclockorhisfather?Didallthethingsthathappenednotactuallyhappen,because
soundslikeapublicschoolbureaucracyfreakedoutovernothingandtreatedakidlikeshit,whichis100%believablebasedonmy
personalexperiences.
Let'ssayit'salltrue,itwasashitclock,andhisdadisarabblerouser.Whocares?Theschoolsystemdidn'tgetentrapped,theydidit
allontheirown.
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Whyisitafakebomb?Citingwikipediahere,butitwasapencilcasewitha(shitty)clockinit,andhe'sdonetonsofthiskind
ofthingbefore.
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I'mintheMatrix!
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IthinktheshittythinglostinthiswholeordealisthatnowthatAhmed'sfamilyissuingtheschooldistrictiftheyweretowin(orevenjust
spendalotonlawyerfees)it'sthestudentsandteacherswhoweren'tinvolvedwhowillsuffer.$15milwouldpayatonofteacher
salaries,sowithoutthatcashtheschoolwillneedtoshovekidsintoovercrowdedclasses.
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[] HashRunner undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MaybeIheardtheincorrectstory,butdidntthepolicetreatthebombasanonissue(nobombsquad,noevacuation,putitinthetrunk
ofacruiser)whilehandcuffingthekidfor'creatingabomb'.
Itsoundedprettyobviousthattheyweretreatingthekidasifhemadeabomb,whileshowingtheytheyneverbelieveditwasabomb.
Whichisprettyfuckedup.
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Yetnoclaimbyhimthatitwasabomb,noranattemttopassitoffasone.
Theyprofiledthekidandslappedchargesonafterthefact.Itwasashamofan'investigation'.Hedidn'tdeserveany
recognitionforit,butthecopscompletelymismanagedtheirsideofitaswell.
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Youaretalkingoutofyourass.
Nowheredidthekidpassitoffasafakebomborattempttoincitepanic.
Heputaclockinaboxandshowedittoateacherhetrusted.Policeshowedupafteranotherteacherreportedit
andtheycompletelymishandledthesituation.
Butrockonwithyourconservativedigesttheory.
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Fearofastudentthreateninganentireschoolisn'tuniquetoconservatives
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Fearofabrownkidbringingaclockinaboxis.
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You'reassumingthepoliceandschool'sactionswereinfluencedbyrace.Theywould've
reactedthesamenomatterhisskincolor.
Theyjustplayedtheracecardafterthefact
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[] alphabetsoup24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow,yougotmorethan3000peopletoactuallyupvoteyourracistbullcrap.ThiswebsiteisworsethanIthought.
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Howismystatementracist?
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Igetsopissedwhenpeoplecan'tcomprehendthis.Especiallytheideaofgivingthisidiotandhisfamilymoney.Orhimmeetingthe
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president.Hedidn'tinventagoddamnthinganditwasclearhewasbaitingaresponse.Fuckallthemediaformakinghimavictim.
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[] YesYesLibertarians undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotsomuchaconspiracytheoryasitisWhatObviouslyHappened.
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Allhedidwastakesomecomponentsoutofaclock,placeditinacaseandthenshoweditofftoeveryone.Now,thefamilyisnow
bloodysuingtheschooldistrictfor$15million,impactingOURownkids'education.
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[] maconsbill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LovehowRedditwentfromscreamingracismto"hmmmaybetheydidtakeproperaction"
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Theproblemwiththistheoryisthatitrequiredtheschooladminandpolicetoactstupidly,otherwisenothingwould'vehappened.They
would'vehadtocountonthatresponse.
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Howdidtheschoolactstupidly?
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Howdidtheynot?
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[] the_leprechauns_anus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lamar,theclockkid.
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[] SubSeven98 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'llneverunderstandthehivemind.Ihadsaidthismyselfwhenthiswasalloverreddit,includinglinkstobackitallup.Iwouldget
downvotedtothedepthsofhell.
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[] Maxplatypus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohwhitepeople,neverchange
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[] iamaxc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireally,reallydon'tfindthiseasiertobelievethanthereisaracistteacherinTexas.
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PeoplefromTexasarenotracist
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[] iamaxc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AreyousayingtherearenoracistsinTexas?
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[] alphabetsoup24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Absolutelynoone?k
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ThereareracistsineverycityintheU.S.Thatdoesn'tmaketheentirecountryinherentlyracist
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Andtheleftdesperateyswallowedthenarrativethemediafedthem.
Seriously,unethicaljournalismjustmightbeoneofthetopthreeproblemsAmericanfacestoday.
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[] TheBallsackIsBack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheRedditcirclejerkforthislittlefuckheadinfuriatedme
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[] GearyDigit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sotheschoolwasevacuatedandthebombsquadwascalled?
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Yourealizeit'sstillillegaltobringafakebombintoaschool?Theyrealizeditwasintendedasahoaxandreactedaccordingly.How
doyouthinkaschoolwouldreactifsomeonebroughtablackspraypaintedairsoftguntoschool?
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[] maip23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheonlyargumentIcanthinkofiswhatiftheteacherssawit,wereimpressed,andthatwasthat?Wouldithavestillbeenanissue?
I'mnottakingsidesjustplayingdevil'sadvocate.
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Iactuallydidn'tbelievethis,untilthefamilysuedfor15million.
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[] faet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcansueanyoneforanyreasonandanyamountitdoesn'tmeanyou'llgetit.Iftheydidn'tsuewhatwouldcomeofit?Nothing.
Theschoolorthepolicewouldactthesamewaythenexttimesomethingsimilarhappened.Theyneedascarethatbasicallysays
"shitwebetternotdothisagain".Anda$15millawsuitdoesthatprettywell.
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Whenthestoryfirstcameouteveryonewasfrothingabouthowtheycan'twaitforthehugelawsuitthatwillinevitablycomefromit.
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[] 4LostSoulsinaBowl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyoudon'twantpeopletothinkyouhaveabomb,don'tshowthemsomethingthatlookslikeafuckingbomb.
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[] BulletBilll undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FromwhatIunderstandnoonethoughtitwasreallyabomb,butthatitwasmadetolooklikeabombsohecouldeithercausea
sceneordoaprank.Theteacherstoldhimtokeepithiddenandtakeithome,buthemadesuretosetthealarmonitinclassand
causeadisruption.
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Ifanyoneintheschoolactuallybelieveditwasabomb,theywouldn'thavetakenAhmed,andhisbomb,intotheprincipal'soffice.They
wouldhavecalledabombsquad,emptiedtheschool,etc.Thewholethingwasridiculous.
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Iftheyrealizeditwasfaketheywouldstilldowhattheydidduetozerotolerancepolicies.Hellthatonekidgotsuspendedfor
chewingapoptartintotheshapeofagun.It'snotlikeanyonemistakeapoptartforagun.
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[] frolics_with_cats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinktheyneverthoughtitwasanactualbomb,theythoughthewasrunningaroundwithafakebombasaprank.Whichisstill
superillegal.
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[] mygotaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butthat'ssostupid...Howdoyouevenprovethat?Itdoesn'tseemlikethemoststraightforwardconclusion,thatwhatthekid
issayingisprobablythetruth.
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[] BulletBilll undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Schoolshaveshutdownovermaintenancepeopleleavingloosecablesincardboardboxesandfacultymembers
thinkingitwasabomb.Abriefcasewithwiresandanumberdisplaywouldprobablyinvokeleadmosttobelievefake
bombbeforeclock.
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[] frolics_with_cats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoyouprovethatitwasaprank?Hehadahistoryofpranksandhissisterhatmadeabombthreatbefore.Soit
wasasafeassumptionIguess.
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Itakethisasafact.There'sjusttoomuchinconsistency,coincidences,andlogicaljumpstovalidatethestory.Hewastellingdifferent
thingsthanhisfatherwas.Theywon'treleaserecordsthatcouldhelptheircase.Thesisterandfatherbothhavereasonstocultivate
outrage.
Heck,Idon'tevenblametheteachersformistakingthe"clock"forabomb.Theydidtherightthing.Theyprotectedtheirkids.Whatdo
youthinkwouldhavehappenedotherwise?Howmanyunassumingsuitcasebombsdoyouthinkarereported?
Thefactthathegottoeatwiththepresidentforcreatingascandalandinflamingprejudiceandhatredisdisgusting,basedonthe
amountoflegitimatechildgeniuseswhohavedonegreatthingsanddeservethathonorsomuchmore.
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Thatschoolwasfuckednomatterwhattheydid
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Apartfromhismotivesbriningit,theyshouldn'tblametheteachersforreportingit.Eveniftheyhadnoideawhatabomb
shouldlooklikeandwronglyassumedsomethingasabomb,itwasreallytherightthingtoreportit.Ifyoudecidetoandit's
notabomb,thenyouwastedsomepeople'stimeandmaybeoffendedsomeone,buterredonthesafeside.
Andwhosaysabomblookslikeacertainthing?Theteachercouldhavethoughtitwasadetonatorlinkedtoabomb
somewhereelse,orsomethinglikethat.WhatdoTexaseducationalstaffknowaboutbombmechanics?Theywentwiththeir
intuition.Mighthavebeenwrong,butbeingwrongorrightherewasthedifferencebetweenoffendingpeopleandlettingyour
chargesdie.
AndI'mnoteventalkingaboutitbeepinginclassorteachersrepeatedlytellinghimtoputitaway,orhimputtingituponthe
wallwithoutpermission.Evenifhelegitimatelyjustwantedtoshowoffhis"clock",hedughisowngravehere.Mostlikely
intentionally.
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[] bigroblee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eveniftrue,it'stheconstantparanoiaandfearthatmostconservativeAmericanssufferfromthatallowedittohappen.
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Fearofastudentthreateninganentireschoolisn'tuniquetoconservatives
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[] VCTRYDTX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiscould'veresolvedifsomeoneJUSTcontactedhisparentsandhewouldn'tadvantagefromTexasbreakinganylaws.It'smakes
sensehowtherewasnosciencefairorhomeworkbutkiddecidedtomakethemostsimilarthingtoabombandshoweditaround
regardlessofteachertellinghimnotto.And15million?It'sobviousthey'retryingtosqueezeeverypennyfromthissituationregardless
ofmeetingmfpresident.
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[] Jedi_Outcast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkyou'reallabunchoffuckingidiots.
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Okbutcanwejusttalkaboutthethreadfornow?
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Hereisaconspiracythatisprobablytrue.
Redditismadeoffauxintellectualsandareactuallyratherillogicalandeasilyfooled.
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Soakid'sdadmanufactureda4thand5thamendmentcivilrightscase?Hejustknewtheprincipalandthepolicewouldfuckthisupso
royallythathewouldhaveaperfectcivilrightscase?
Hesomehowknewthatthepolicewouldholdhissonincommunicado.Dotheydothisroutinely?Isitnormalfortheschooldistrictand
policetoviolatedueprocess?WhatotherreasonwouldthefatherhavetoKNOWthatthepolicewouldmakethisgraveerror?
Makesperfectsense./s
Jesuspeoplearefuckingretarded.Justbecauseyoudon'tlikethekidorwanttoexcusetheschoolorthepolice,(why?theyfuckedit
upcompletely)doesn'tmeanthedueprocessnolongerappliestothem.
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There'ssomanywaysinwhichthismightnothaveworkedinthewayitdidthatthechanceitwasanorchestratedeventisjust
laughable.Anyonewhopurportstobeanevenvaguelyrationalthinkerwhotoleratesthisideaforasecondhasgotsomemajorissues
withtheircriticalthinkingskills.
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[] Atrius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifitdidn'twork,wouldweknowaboutthekid?You'retalkingaboutthisundertheassumptionthatit's1/1
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[] AndAgain1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswasn'ttheirfirstattemptatthis.Thekid'ssisterwasalsooncesuspendedforsomebombrelatedthing.
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Thethingaboutconspiracytheoriesisthattheyworksowellbecausepeoplearewillingtotolerateillogicalleapsiftheconspiracy
theorysupportstheirworldview.Inthiscase,theviewisthatAhmeddoesn'tdeserveanyofthepositivethingshereceivedinthe
aftermathofwhathappened,sohemusthaveconnedtheworldsomehow.
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[] mygotaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theshockingpartishowmanyupvotesthishas.
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[] moleratical undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'relookingatwhobenefitedandthenassigningamotiveretroactively.Alotofconspiraciesdothisbutitiserroneous.Youcan
almostalwaysfindsomeonetobenefitfromeverysituation,nomatterhowhorribleandtragic,assumingthatthepersonthatbenefited
musthavepreplannedthewholesituation(andthereforepredictedhowotherswouldreact)isfallaciousanddoesnotfollowoceans
razor.IfpersonAfidnotbenefitthenitwouldhavebeenpersonBorpersonC.Thereasonforthisisthatpeopleareopportunistic.A
morelikelyscenarioisthatthefathersawwhathadhappenedtohissonandistryingtocapitalizeonthesituationbothpoliticallyand
monetarily.
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That'snotaconspiracy.It'sactuallythetruth.Readintoitmoreanditbecomesmoreapparenthowshadyitwas.
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[] domirossi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ah,sothisisoneofthose"jzjzjzjzjzjzjz"threads.Thanksforlettingmeknow.
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[] Vahiik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeah,wegetit.Ahmedsdumb,letsstoptalkingaboutit.
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[] kandenxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youguysaresofuckingjealousofhimlmfao
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[] JoeyDubbs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButhemakesCPUs!Likewithsoldering!
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[] malted_rhubarb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
r/electronicshasarrived.
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[] mightykill19 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itcould'vebeenareallysimplecomputersimlartothis,whichisunlikely,butpossible.
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[] bandersnatchh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasn't.Thatwouldhavebeenunderstandable.
Itwasanoldclockhetookapartandputinabriefcase.
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Pencilcase.
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[] mightykill19 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh.WasthatwaswhathewasreferringtowhenhesaidtheCPUsolderingcomment,orwashereferringtosomething
else?
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Itdidn'thelpthatheranupanddownthehalls,carryingtheclockoverhisheadwhileyellingallahuakbar.
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https://youtu.be/Zgiwjyu_j7s
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LOFingL.I'veseenthatFGepisodebutcompletelyforgotaboutthatscene.Thanks,Norm.
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MynameisHarland.ButyoucancallmeTheColonel
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NormMacDonaldistheonlyColonelSandersforme.
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AsopposedtoHarlandDavidSanders,a.k.a.therealColonelSanders?
Besidesnormisahack,DarrellHammondplayedtheColonel10xbetter
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ProbablytrueaboutDarrellHammond.Normcracksmeup,though.Youcan'tjustputsomesuper
funnyHollywoodactorinawhitesuitandsayhe'sCol.Sanders.
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[] jfoust2 2points
You'reimaginingthings.Hetookitstraighttotheengineeringteacher.Hedidn'tcallitabomb.
Ahmedisanaive14yearoldinterestedintechnologyquiteliketheaverageRedditor,I'dsay.
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Ithinkwhatwe'reallpissedoffonRedditisthatakidlikeAhmedwhodidsomethingmostofusdidwhenwewere7isreceivinga
fullridetoMIT,avisittotheWhiteHouse,scholarships,andlike$5000worthofMicrosoftproducts.
Then,asiftotopitoff,thiskidismovingtoQatarbecausehisdadsaysitismore"tolerant".That'sBS.
Look,disassemblingaclockisn'trocketscience,hell,itisn'tevensocialscience!
ThemediawentPfuckingCcrazyoverthis.
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[] ls_2016 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwonderifhisdadmovedAhmedfarawaysothatAhmedwouldn'taccidentallysaysomethingthatblewtheirstory.
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[] volatile_floor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly.Remindsmeofthatkidthatwassupposedlystuckinaballoon.Hiswholefamilyliedbecausetheywanteda
realitytvshow.Clockboyisjustapawninhisfamily'sgame.
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[] Cerus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orperhapstheymovedfarawaybecausetheysawtheracismofthepoliceforceandgeneralpublic?
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[] jfoust2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hegotlucky.Fame'sabitch.
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quiteliketheaverageRedditor,
hedidn'thaveaneckbeardthough
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[] ColonelSanders_1930 1point
Icantakeapartmyalarmclockandthrowitinabriefcasetoo,thatdoesn'tmakemesomelittletechnologicalgenius.
PlusthatengineeringteacherwasevenquotedsayinghetoldAhmedheshouldn'ttakeitoutinclass.
Yourealizeit'sstillillegaltotakeafakebombintoschool?Eveniftheyknewitwasn'trealtheycanstillpunishhimforit.Justlikea
kidwouldbepunishediftheybroughtafakeguntoschoolthatwasspraypaintedblack
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[] jfoust2 10points
IfAhmeddidn'tcallitabomb,andiftwoteachersdidn'tthinkitwasabomborabombhoax,andapparentlythe
administrationandtheultimatelythepolicedidnotdetermineitwasabomborabombhoax,whydoyoucallita"fake
bomb"?
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Becausethat'swhatheintendedittobe
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Becausehe'samoron.
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[] BJ2K undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomepeoplewerebitchingatBillMaherforsayinghowridiculousthesituationwasfromthebeginning.Igivehimpropsfornotbuying
intoit.
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[] KrimzonK 6points
Ifeellikehebroughtthatinforabombscareprank.There'slegitimatelynoreasonbringitinhekeptbringingitouteventhoughsome
teacherssaidtoputitaway.
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[] yatpay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusedtodothatallthetimeinhighschool..I'mnotsayingit'sagoodidea,butIwasn'tlookingtocauseabombscare.AsI
mentionedinanothercomment,IoncebroughtinsomeuraniumdopedmarblesIgotoneBaythatIwasstoringinaleadpipethat
lookedlikeabomb.Nospecialoccasionoranything.AndIshowedmostofmyteachersbecauseIthoughtitwascool.
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[] Doonvoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thereareamultitudeofmoresensibleexplanationforthatthanitbeingafakebombscare
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[] PaintballerCA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Like?
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Likethemassivepublicityanddonationshereceivedforhavingdoneit.
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[] Cornelius_Wangenheim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sanerdykidtryingtoshowoffsomethinghe'sproudof.
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[] KrimzonK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hehasnopriorhistoryofit,itwasduring9/11,thealarmwentoffduringanexam.
Feelslikeaprankgonewrongtome
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Kidwastryingtosetupaconvoluted"clock/cock"pun
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[] ThatOneChappy 747points
Loleveryonekeepsfocusingonthisshitinsteadofthefactthatthekidorhisfather,ifthisbullshitisactuallytrue,predictedracismnot
onlybytheschoolbutthepoliceforce.
sigh
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[] kenos99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nooneinjectedracismintotheequationuntilthefamilydid.Theschooldidnotsayhewasintroubleforbringingahomemade
devicethatcouldhavebeenmistakenforabombANDheisMiddleEastern.Hewouldhavereceivedthesametreatment
regardlessofskincolor.Thefamilyistryingtomakethisaboutracismandthuslawsuitwastheultimategoal.
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[] ThatOneChappy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
....Ofcoursetheschoolwon'tadmittoracism.
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Excepttherewasnoracism
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Theypaidoffthecopstoarrestthekid.Loominati!
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Lolgotagoodchuckleoutofme
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Becausetherewasnoracism.Theschoolactedexactlythewayitshould,andthepoliceactedexactlythewayitshould.Theywere
evenkindenoughtoputhandcuffsonhimwhenthefamilyaskedthemtoinordertotakeapicture,butthatkindnessbackfired.
Itwasthefamilywhoaccusedthesituationofbeingracist,andthemediawentalongwithitfortheviewsitwouldgenerate.
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Source?
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[] twerkinwithcoffee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mygod,howdoyouhavesomanyupvoteshere!?WheredoyoudrawthelineinthisscenarioifhisracewillALWAYSbein
questionasthemotivatingfactor?I'mprettysureanykidofanyracewho"constructed"adevicewhichwasveryreminiscentofa
cartoonbomb(asseeninmoviesandtv)wouldhavegottenshitforthis.
Sodothewhitekidsgetpunishedforthisbehaviorwhilenonwhitesdon't(andisthatracismornot)?Thelinecannotbedrawn
ANYWHEREwithoutpissingoffmillions.Wasitracistfortheteachertobeconcernedwiththeactionsofthiskid(whichwere
seriouslycontrived)?Iguessthisdependsonhowbroadlyyoudefineracismandhowbroadlyyouarewillingtoapplyit.Thereal
questionis,whatdefinitionofandwhatapplicationofthisdefinitionpositivelyaddtothediscussionofraceinoursociety?
Iamfairlycertainthatthiskidandhisshittyfamilyarenottryingtofurtherthediscussionofmoderndayracism,ImeanI'dsucklike
100dicksfor15Msoexcusemefornotputtingtomuchstockinthisshit.
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Itdoesn'tmatterwhattheintentionsarehere,nomatterhowquestionabletheymaybe,whatmatteristheresponsetheywere
abletopredict.Itsascarworldweliveinwhena15yearsoldkidandhisfatherarecapableofofpredictingracial
profiling/racismbythepoliceforce.
ItsamessedupsituationeitherwayandIfeeleveryone'sdetractingwiththerealissuebybeinghungupoverakidandwhat
hisfathermayhaveplanned.
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[] Reck_yo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Where'sthefuckingracism?Kidthatalwaysthrowsprankstriestocreatefearinhisclassmatesbyshowingthemafakebomb.
Definitelyarrestthatidiot.Racehadnothingtodowithit.
TheONLYpeoplewhothoughtitwasracismwasreddit,Obama,MSM,NASAandsomeidiotcelebrities/universites.
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exceptthat'snothowthiswentdownbutokay
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[] tones2013 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hissisterhadmadebombthreatsinthepast.Theschoolsuspectwhattheyweretryingtodoandtryingtoavoidgettingthepolice
involved.
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thishasneverbeensourced
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[] howlin4you undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asifwhitekidsareallowedtofreelywalkaroundwithbombs...
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yesbecauseallsuitcasesarebombs
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[] dj_bizarro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellnoshit.Anythingablackpersondoesgetsportrayedasracisminthemedia.
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Dealingwithabombscare,eveniffake,isnotracist.Thekidwastryingtofrightenpeople.
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Thisisnothowyoudealwithabombscare.
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[] leelasavage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,becausetheyareracists,themselves.Howhardcanthisbetounderstand?
sigh
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[] maxjohnson77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theracismyou'retalkingaboutisthatakidwithatickingbriefcasewashandcuffeduntiltheyfiguredoutitwasaclock,right?It's
notautomaticallyanissueofracejustbecausethevictimisn'twhite.
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[] Armagetiton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youunderestimatehowseriouslyeveryonetakesthiskindofshit.
Duringtheanthraxscare(happenedshortlybefore9/11)ourentirehighschoolwasevacuatedandpolicefrom3neighboring
suburbs+aSWATunitshowedup.IonlytookhalfdaysattheschoolsowhenIarrivedwhilethewholethingwasgoingdownIhad
anM16pointedatmewhiletryingtogettoclass,thatwasfun.
Theculprit:
Someonegotchalkdustfromtheboarderaseronsomeofthedesks.
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[] berock212 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihateitwhenpeoplesaythinkslikethis.Yeahsurepoliceracismisanissue,butwhensomeonedoessomethingdeceptivelikethis
weshouldtalkaboutitandnotsomeotherissuethatallowedhisdeception.Hedoesn'tgetoffthehookbecausehepredicted
racism.Nottomentionit'snotevenracist,I'mawhitedudethatwouldgetarrestedifIbroughtaclockbombtoschool
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ilovehoweveryoneistalkingaboutasifitsanactualfuckingbombwhenitwentviralbecauseitwasn'twhatsoever
alsoareyoureallytellingmeTHEKIDisabiggerissuethanracisminthepoliceforce?
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NoI'mnottellingyouthekidisabiggerissue,it'saseparateissue.Ifyouchoosetofocusontheracisminsteadofthe
deceptionyouareallowingaseparateissuetotakefocusawayfromthedeception.Youcanfocusonracismafterwe
talkaboutthedeception.
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Butracismisthebiggerissue.Whyshouldthekidtakeprecedence?
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Forthesamereasonwedealwithshopliftersbeforewetryandstopglobalwarming.Racismisabig
problemthatisn'tgoingawayanytimesoon.Thekidisasmallsimpleproblem.Ifwefocusedonracism
everytimeanewsmallproblemariseswestillwouldn'thavefixedracismbutwewouldhavealotmore
smallproblems.ThewayIseeitfocusingonracisminsteadofthekidisjustanattempttostoppeoplefrom
criticisingthekid.
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Thisparticularcasecanbesolved,though.Youwon'tfixinstitutionalracismonanationwidelevelbut
youcanfocusonthepoliceforceandtheschoolandgetsomewhere.
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Stillthat'samuchbiggerproblem.Youshouldn'tignoresmallproblemslikethis,evenifitmeans
fightingabiggerone.
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[] pball2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'satest.Haveawhitemantakesaidclockinbriefcasethroughairportsecurity.Thinkhewillmakeitthrough?
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becausethosetwoaretotallyequatableright
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[] festering undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydidthiscommentgetupvotedrofl
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[] PCGamingOppression undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
implyingawhitekidwouldn'tfacethesameexactbullshitforbringingwhatlookslikeabriefcasetimerbomb
Excepthe'swhite,sotherewouldn'thaveevenbeenastoryonitinthefirstplace.Maybealittleblurbwouldenduponreddit,and
thecommentswouldbeall"LOLlittleshitdeservedit,hewasobviouslytryingtostartacontroversy,everyoneknowsit'salwaysthe
quitewhitekidsthatshootuptheschool!"
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ohmygodhowfarisyourheadupyourass
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[] PCGamingOppression undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lol
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[] oakland91010 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyousomekindofdolt?Thismakesnofuckingsense.Tryingtoconspiresituationslikethismakesyouashithumanbeing.
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ffshowdenseareyou
apparently,racisminthepoliceforcesosystemicafatherandhiskidcouldpredictitislessofaproblemthanthekidhimself
lmao
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[] Alkanfel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohfuckoffwiththatshit.
WhenIwasinsixthgradeIthoughttrenchcoatswerecool.Iworeoneduringthewinterof199697.ThenColumbinehappenedtwo
yearslaterandsuddenlyeveryonethoughtIwasafuckingpsycho.Myparentsmademegotocounseling.Icouldn'tfindagirlfriend
tosavemylife.Noonepickedonme,butIwasmoreorlesssociallyisolated.MySophomoreyearIwascalledintotheofficeonce
withtwofriendsliterallyandIamnotmakingthisupbecausesomeoneheardoneofussaytheword"list"inhomeroom,and
workedoutthatwemusthavebeenhatchingarampageplan.Accordingtotheinformant,Ididn'twrite"thelist"butwasthebomb
maker.
Doyoureallyforaninstantthinkthatanyoftheabovehasanythingtodowiththecolorofmyskin?IfI'dhavewalkedintoschool
withthatclockI'dhavewoundupincuffstoo.Don'tkidyourself.
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Suckstohavethathappenbutyoustilldidnotnotgetarrestedintheend.Theseverityisdifferent.
Beingcalledintoofficeandhavingthishappenaretwoentirelydifferentthings.
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[] Alkanfel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Beingcalledintoofficeandhavingthishappenaretwoentirelydifferentthings.
Sowerethecircumstancesthatledtoboth.WhatI'msayinghereisthatnoLEOinhisrightmindwouldgivemethe
benefitofthedoubtinAhmed'ssituationjustbecauseIamwhite.Thesuggestionthatauthoritiesreactedthewayhedid
becauseofhisskincolorisnothingshortofasinine.Mostperpetratorsofcampusviolencearewhite,Idon'tknowhow
peoplearemanagingthekindofmentalgymnasticsnecessarytoassumethatawhitekidwouldhavezeroriskofthe
samethinghappeningtohimunderthesamecircumstances.
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[] bluecaddy9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdidtheschoolorpolicedisplayracism?Justcurious.
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Well,theschoolmassivejumpsinlogictogo''yepthisisabombcallthecops!''andthewaythepolicehandledthesituation
afterward,beratingandputtingdownAhmedafterarrestinghim.
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[] ModernDemagogue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,it'stakingadvantageoftheUSzerotolerancepolicyandpredictingasocialjusticewarrioroverreaction/whiteguilt.
Predictinggettingarrestedforshowinguptoschoolwiththistypeofdeviceisnotpredictingracisttreatment,andthere'slittletono
evidenceofracisttreatmentorracism.
Thebehaviorthat'sbadisthereactionofpeopletotheIStandWithAhmedTwittercampaign/mediaetc...
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DAElesjwsruniingamerica?!
Itispredictingracisttreatment.PleasetakealookatthewayAhmedwastreatedbeyondthearrest.
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[] ModernDemagogue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DAElesjwsruniingamerica?!
What?
Itispredictingracisttreatment.
Noitisn't.Youhaven'trespondedtomyargumentyou'rejustrepeatingyourself.
PleasetakealookatthewayAhmedwastreatedbeyondthearrest.
Howso?
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[] leadingthenet undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
predictedracism
Ifhewaswhiteitwouldhavenevermadenationalnews.
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lolpeoplekeepsayingthisshitbutitalwaysmakesnationalnews,usuallyunderaracedrivensensationalheadlinebutof
coursethat'sokayright?
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[] Not_a_shoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notheypredictedtheexpectedreactionaschoolandpoliceforcewouldhavetoakidbringingsomethingpotentially"bomblike"to
class.Imean,ayoungwhitekidwassuspendedforeatingapoptartintotheshapeofagun.Theonlyracismthattookplacewas
everyoneelse'sfocusonhisrace.Whichisneithertheschoolnorthepoliceforce'sissue,it'sanissueofourmediaandourover
reactionary,quicktojudgepopulace.
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[] Jesoph undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Akidcameintomyschoolwithatoylookinggunitlookedlikesomediscountshitandwasbrightblue,couldntfireathing.
Hewasntinthenextweek.
Anotherhadalighterthatlookedlikeagunbutwasntgunsized.
Hewasntinthenextweekeither.
Theywerebothwhite.Stopthewhole"muhcopsrevilandraycis"bullcrapbecausewhensomeshitgoesdownyourgoingtoflip
andinstantlyendupsidingwiththe"evilrayciscops"
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Firstofalldropthepreassumptions.Icouldmakealotofpreassumptionsaboutyouandmanypeopleinthiscommentchain
butIdon'tbecauseitsfuckingpointless.
Idon'tthinkequatingsuspensionwitharrestistherightwaytogoabouthis.
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Youhaveseenthe"clock"hemadethatlookedlikeasuitcasebombright?
Surelyhisdadwouldhavetoldhimtonotmakeitlooklikeasuitcasebomb
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Googleanactualsuitcasebombandseethedifference.AlsoGooglethecaseAhmedhadonhim,itwasnotvery
stereotypicalHollywood.
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Suitcasebomb
Ahmeds"clock"
Idon'tgiveashitabouthisraceifIsawanyonehavingthatinaschoolI'drunthefuckoutofthere
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Theylooknothingalikepastthefactthatitsanelectronicdevice.
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Prettymuchthesamecase,andwiringlikethat.
Idon'tcareifyou'reblindandcantseetheylookverysimilar,ifakidcomesintoschoolwaving
thataboutnoshitaretheygoingtocallthecops
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[] IamMrT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatracism?Showmeanyaspectofthatsituationthatwould'vebeenanydifferentbasedonhisrace.Theydidn'tsuspectthatit
wasabomb,theysuspectedthathewastryingtopretenditwasabomb,whichisacrimebyitself.
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That'sabsolutelynotwhattheysuspected.Thepolicewerecontactedbasedontheideathatitsabombandtheytreatedhim
asitwasanactualbomb.
Awhitekidmighthavehadthepoliceshowupbutthewaytheyrespondedwouldnothavebeenthesame.
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[] JackalKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StupidkidsdidsimilarshitwhenIwasinhighschool.Theywerewhite.Theygottreatedthesameway.
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Elaborate
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[] yep45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"predictedracism"
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yeep
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Wehadbombsquadsinourschoolandkidstakenoutinhandcuffsforless.SomewhitekidinmyruralPAschoolwrote"bom"ona
postitnoteandleftitinthebathroom.Hewastakenoutinhandcuffsformakingterroristicthreats.
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[] lizlegit000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIwasyounger,akidthreatenedtobombthewholeschool&hewastakentojuvie&hewaswhite,racehasnothingtodo
withit.Ifyouthreatentobombaschool,you'regoingtogettherepercussionsasanybodyelse.
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[] rapeasaurus_rex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeait'snotlikebrownpeoplenamedMohammedhavebeenblowingshituprecently...BUTMUHCOLUMBONE
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Right??Maybetheschoolandthecopsshouldhavebeensmarterthana15yearoldtroll?Attheveryleast,theyshouldn'thave
actuallyhadsuchanoverthetopreactiontosomethingthatveryobviouslywasn'tabomb,simplybecauseitwasinthehandsofa
Muslimkid.
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Zerotolerancepolicymakesthecasefortheschool.
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[] JacobCrowell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WehaveabombthreatatthehighschoolAlright,detaintheassailant,getbombsquad,andmakesureeveryoneisclear.
We'renotlosinganyoneontheWaitcaptain,whatifit'sajoke?Webetternotdoanythingincasehe'splayingaprank.
Changeofplanseveryone!
Yourlogicmakesnosense.
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[] Cornelius_Wangenheim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alrightthen,iftheyactuallythoughtitwasabomb,whydidn'ttheyevacuatethebuildingandcallinthebombsquad?
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Itwasneverabombthreat,becausethekidexplicitlytoldeveryone"it'saclock"rightupfront.
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[] JacobCrowell undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoifIheldametalobjectdesignedtoappearascloselyaspossibletoafirearmbutexplained"ohdon'tworry,it's
justawatergun"you'djustletitgoimmediately?Bettersafethansorryinmybook.Imeansure,they(theCops)
roughedhimupabit,andthatwasunnecessary.ButIthinkdetaininghimwastherightmove
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Ifakidbringsafakeguntoschoolbutdoesn'tthreatenanyonewithit,andtheschooloverreactsandcalls
thecopseventhoughtheyknowit'safakegun,yes,Ihaveaproblemwiththat.
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[] ColonelSanders_1930 168points
You'reassumingthepoliceandschool'sactionswereinfluencedbyrace.Theywould'vereactedthesamenomatterhisskincolor.
Theyjustplayedtheracecardafterthefact
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[] LifeCritic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisliterallyisn'tprovableeitherwayandyetyou'resayingitwitharesoundinglevelofconfidence.
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BecauseIbelievemyopinioniscorrect
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[] crispychicken49 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thencombineitwiththefactthattheschoollegallycannotreleaseanyinformationwithouttheparentspermissionand
suddenlyyouhaveanarrativebeingdrivenbyonepartybackedbythemediawithnoabilitytofightbackfromtheotherparty.
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[] well_golly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyboughtawholepackof52racecardsbeforethefact,andloadedthemintheirsleevesandatonofconcealed
compartmentsintheirclothing,likemagicianspreparingfortheirstageact.
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Youarebeingequallyassumptive.
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[] napoleonsolo 2points
Andalsopredicteditoversomethingthatdidn'tlooklikeabomb.Thatwasthemainreasonitwentviral,becauseitdidn'tlooklikea
bomb.
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[] Vodis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Here'sapictureoftheclock,sootherscanjudgeforthemselves.Mytwocents:It'sabigredtimerdisplayinsideofasuitcase
likecontainer.Inorderwords,everylowbudgetgradeBmoviebombpropever.
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[] Snarfler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlrightI'vesaidthisbeforeI'llsayitagain.Theonlyreasonyoucansayitdidn'tlooklikeabombisbecausethereweren'tany
visibleexplosives.Abombisliterallyatriggerandanexplosive.
Iworkwithembeddedsystems.Idon'tknowmuchaboutchemistrythough.ButifIwantedtomakeatriggerunitwithout
involvingmyownMCUadigitalclockwouldworkjustfine.
ThisisnotincludinghowHollywoodoftendepictsbombshavinganLCDtimeronthem.
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[] zeimcgei 0points
Itwassupposedtolooklikeabombthough.
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[] Im_not_brian 9points
Itdidn'tlooklikenotabomb.Withzerotoleranceeveryonewouldexpectsomethingthatlookslikethattodrawattention,it
looksenoughlikeaHollywoodbombtofreakpeopleout.Thedisplaypanelmademethinkhewastryingtomakeaclockthat
lookedlikeacoolbombcountdown,andthefirstteacherwhosawitclearlythoughtitwasbomblikeenoughtomeritkeeping
ithiddenfortherestoftheday.
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[] jfoust2 4points
Thefirstteacher,theengineeringteacher,didnotthinkitlookedlikeabomb.
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Thenwhydidtheytellhimnottoshowanyone.HeknewitlookedENOUGHlikeabombtocauseanissue.
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Wedon'tknowwhattheysaid,whatAhmedheard,oranyone'sintentions.Maybetheydidn'twantsomeone
elsetooverreact.
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I'mnotsayingit'spartofagrandschemeofanything,I'mjustsayingitclearlywouldhaveeliciteda
reactionfromaschoolbasedonhow"bomblike"itlooked.Inaschoolsystemwheremakingafinger
gungetsyoususpendedthethingAhmedbroughtinwouldcreateashitstorm.Itdoesn'tmakesense,
butweliveinasocietywherethiskindofthingistakenVERYseriouslyanditisn'tsurprisingthatthe
bigredringingmetalboxwithabrightredclockisn'tseenasappropriate.
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Itissosuperficialtoassumethatbarecircuitboardsmustequal"bomb."Insideeverylaptop,
computer,andcellphonearecircuitboards.
Ahmed'sclockonlyworkedwhenitwaspluggedintoanACoutlet.Itneverlooked"on"when
theywereexaminingit,unlesstheypluggeditinthemselves.
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[] Regi66 43points
Andalsopredicteditoversomethingthatdidn'tlooklikeabomb.
areyoujoking,itwasmadetolooklikeabomb
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[] Anonymonynonymous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouthinkastupidkidwithastupidbriefcasewithastupidlylargeclockandnothingelseinside,whichhasbeenshown
toeveryoneofthekid'sstupidfriends,isabomb,thenyououghttoretakepreschool.
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[] tomdarch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Withthetimedisplayontheinside?
Withnoextrawiresrunninganywhere(asintoadetonator)?
WithnofakeexplosivesliketubesofdynamiteorblobsofC4?
Howdidthegutsofaclockinaboxlooklikeabomb?
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[] ambitiousmix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyoujoking?Noitwasn't
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[] Regi66 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yesitwas
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[] technon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouthinkthatthishttp://freedomoutpost.com/wpcontent/uploads/2015/09/ahmedmohamedclock.jpgisabombthen
you'reprobablyprettystupid.Whatpartofthatcouldpossiblybetheexplosivecomponent?
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[] bmpry5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lol,themajorityofpeoplearen'tfamiliarwiththecomponentsofyourtypicalbomb.Itlookslikewhatistypically
depictedasabomb.Youraverageteacher/student/personisn'tgonnalookatthatandgo,"Phew,itdoesn'thave
explosivecomponents.We'reallgoodherefolks.Mustjustbeaclock.Movealong."Yeah...no.
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[] tomdarch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butonequestionis,"Didthiskidactivelytrytomakesomethingthatwouldcausealarminpeopleinother
words,intentionallytrytomakea'hoaxbomb'?"Thefactthatthere'snothingintherebuttheclock
componentspointtonointent,whereasifhehadputsomeextra"tubes"(likesticksofdynamite)ora"blob"
ofmaterial(likeC4)orevenjustabox,withwiresleadingintoitlikeadetonator,thatwouldindicatean
intentorattempttocreatea"hoax"bombthatwouldcausealarm.
Also,Hollywoodbombshavethetimerdisplayontheoutsidesothatthecharactersandaudiencecansee
atimedisplaycountingdown.Thiswasnothingbutaclocktimedisplayanddidn'tcountdownandwas
hiddenontheinsideagain,notbuilttomakesomeonelookingatitbealarmedthatitresembledabomb.
Becauseoftheseimportantdifferencesit1)doesn'tlooklikeaHollywoodbomband2)lackselementsthat
wouldindicatethathewasattemptingorintendingtomakesomethingthatlookslikeabomb.
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Leavingtheextrasoutgavehimplausibledeniability.Hecan'tcryracismhemadealegitimatefake
bomb.
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[] technon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotthat.It'sjustthatitreallydoesn'tevenlooklargeenoughtobeabomb.Ifitexplodesit'sgonnabea
prettytinyexplosion.
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http://pamelagellercom.c.presscdn.com/wpcontent/uploads/2015/09/clockhoax.jpeg
getthefuckout
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[] jfoust2 2points
Onlymoviebombshaveabigalarmclocklikedisplay.
Also,showmeamoviewherethebombplugsintothewall.
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abigalarmclocklikedisplay.
Youhavejustprovedyourignorance,didyouevenlookupthetopicorareyoujustsomewhinysjwwhois
claimingracismateveryturn
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Oh,Iforgotshowmeamoviebombthatdoesn'thavesomerepresentationofthedynamite,C4,or
stainlesssteelnuke.BecauseAhmed'sclockdidn'thavethat,either.
Please,showmemorebombsthatwereputinWalmartpencilcases.
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[] neoaccount 5points
"created"isaverystrongwordtouse,ifnotaltogethermisleading.Hetookaclockoutofitsoriginalcasingandputitintoanother.But
hedidwearaNASATshirtsoIseehowpeoplethoughthewasagenius.
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[] jfoust2 2points
He's14.Didyouhavemisconceptionsandexaggerationswhenyouwere14?
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[] neoaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoyoumean?OfcourseIhadmisconceptionsaboutthings,stillprobablydo.Idon'tknowhowthatrelatestoanything
I'vepostedhere.
I'lltellyouwhatIdidn'tdowhenIwas14Ididn'tmakeaclocklooklikeabomb,claimtobejustshortofagenius,bringset
clocktoschool,eggonthestaffandmanufacturedoutrageinordertolaythegroundforamultimillionlawsuit.
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HowdidAhmed"manufactureoutrage"?
Ahmed'sonlybeenspeakingEnglishforafewyearsI'mwillingtogranthimalittleleewayonthesubtledifference
between"Imadethis"and"Iinventedthis."
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[] neoaccount undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sure,buddyeverythingnottoadmittoswallowinghisbullshit.Ithasbecomeapparentthatitwasastunt,andI'll
evengrantyouthatthemajorityofitlieswiththefather,butAhmedplayedhispart.
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[] Fermats_Last_Account 5points
AndI'mherelaughingatalltheidiotswhotookthebaitanddownvotedmeonrantthreads.
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[] Username_Biographer 7points
Comingoutofthethroesoftheindustrialrevolution,youpioneeredtheartofpolishingmilitaryofficers.
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[] Java_Beans 72points
Ifthiseverbecomestrue,itwillprovehowmuchmediacanaffectpeople,frompeopleonreddittotheUSpresident.
Theyshouldprobablyhirehisdad.
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[] JangSaverem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andwhenitcomesoutitistrueitwillneverbereportedbecausetheneveryonewillwanttheirheadsandthestupidmediathat
forcefedthebulahitforviewsandretardedfollowers.
ButmoreimportantlyitwillNEVERbeprovenastruebecauseanyonewhotriestoclaimitwasallafarceandhavemorethan
valuableproof,sotheyclaim,willbedeemedamonsterandaracistandnoonewillacceptwhattheysayanymore.AndGodsave
thequeeniftheyhapentobewhitebecausethatalonewouldbecomeanationalmediabombofitsownshowinghowquickwhite
peoplearetryingtokeepminoritiesdown...
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It'stotallytrue.Butafamilyorchestratingabombscarehoaxforpoliticalgainisn'tthenarrativethemediawantstoportray.
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It'stotallytrue.
Totallydude.
Therearen'tanyfactsthatsupportit,butit'slike...totallytrue.
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[] BeepBoopRobo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,otherthanthefactthathedidn't"invent"it,thatitwasafullyfunctionalclockwithanalarmthathehadtoplug
intoawallinclasstogetittogooff?
Imean...ifthiskidinventedaclock,Iinventedseveralcellphones,consoles,computers,andmanyotherdevices.It's
veryclearlyaclockremovedfromahousingandputintoadifferentcase.Thatinitselfitenoughtobesuspect.
Combinethatwiththefactthathekeptpluggingitinduringclassesuntilitwentoff,afterheadmitsateacherexplicitly
toldhimnotto?Seemsveryclearlylikeitwasintentional.
Nottomentionthefactthatnow,muchtimelater,heisdemanding15milliondollarsorheisthreateningtosuethe
school.
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Youseemnaive,andkindofstupid.
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[] BeepBoopRobo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right.Andit'sentirelyjustcoincidencethathissisterwasalsosuspendedfromschoolforabombthreat.
Butwhateverman.Obviouslycouldn'thavebeenorchestrated.Heinventedthatfactoryprintedcircuit
board.
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You'restillanidiot.
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[] dmkicksballs13 195points
Itmakessense.Hebroughtitinrandomly(nosciencefairoranything),andshowedittoasmanypeopleaspossible.Hewasdetained
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forlike5minutes.
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[] Fenring undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
showedittoasmanypeopleaspossible.
Nohedidn't.Heshowedittohisengineeringteacher,thenputitaway.Hedidn'tgetitbackoutuntilhisEnglishteacherspecifically
toldhimto,andthensaidteacherconfiscatedit.
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Nohedidn't.Heshowedittohisengineeringteacher,thenputitaway.Hedidn'tgetitbackoutuntilhisEnglishteacher
specificallytoldhimto,andthensaidteacherconfiscatedit.
Idon'tknowwhereyou'refindingthisinfo,butheshoweditinmultipleclassesandtheonlyreasonateacherwasevenaware
isbecausehehadthealarmgooffinthemiddleofclass.
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[] ConnorUllmann undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...andIoncebroughtabattery,wire,andfanmotortoschooltoshowmyfriends.Patheticallyunimpressive?Yup.Unusual?Notin
theleast.
Whateverotherevidencethereis,peoplereallydon'tseemtogetthattheclockprojectitselfisnotsuspect.Iwasakidlikethis.I
wouldhavedonethis.
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[] Nyaos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobefair,itwastheexactdumbshitIwouldhavedoneinmiddleschool,sinceIalwayswantedattentionandtolooksmarter/
coolerthanIactuallywas.
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Didyoucontinuetoshowitafterateachersaiditlookedlikeabombandyoushouldputitaway?
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Imean..Iusedtodostufflikethatinhighschool.Ioncebroughtinabunchofuraniumdopedmarblesstoredinaleadtubethat
lookedlikeahomemadepipebombjusttoshowmyphysicsteacherandsomefriends.Nosciencefairoranything.ThesedaysI
probablywouldhavebeenexpelled.
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Didyoubringitin,wastoldtoputitawaybecauseitlookedlikeabombandsomeonemightmistake,butinsteadshoweditto
everyteacherandwhennoonecaredmadeit'salarmgooff?
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Haha,actuallyIwastoldtoputitawaycauseitlookedlikeabombandIdidtakeitoutandshowotherteachers..luckily
itdidn'thaveanalarm.ThoughIeventuallybroughtinablacklighttoshowhowitmadethemglow.
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[] jfoust2 456points
Hewasgrilledbytheschooladministration,thenbypolice,handcuffed,notallowedtotalktohisparents(againstTexaslaw),and
senttoajuveniledetentioncenterwherehewasfingerprinted.
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[] LifeCritic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,butthatwouldtotallyhappentoawhitepersonbecauseallofthepeopleinthisthreadwenttoschoolwithwhitekids
whoweresuspendedsimplyforSAYINGtheword"bomb"andthereactuallyisn'tanydocumentedbigotryorracismin
Americabecauseit'salljustmanufacturedbythepeopleamonguswiththeleastamountofsocial,politicalandfinancial
capitalwhoaresomehowabletoorchestratethesemassiveplotswhilebarelymakinganytangibleprogressintheirquestfor
equality.
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[] cottoncandyjunkie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sotheytookprecautionandheoranyonewasn'tharmed.Nofoul
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Itdoesn'tmakesenseiftheyhadalreadydecideditwasn'tabomb,norhadhedoneanythingtheycouldprosecuteas
evena"bombhoax".
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[] dsero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bringingclockstoschoolisalsoilegal
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Andiftheyhadnotanditturnedouttobearealbombandkilledsomekidspeoplewouldbescreamingwhydidyouwaiton
theparents?
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Clearlytheyweren'tworriedaboutitactuallyexploding.Theykeptitwithintheschool.Theydidn'tevacuateanyone.
AllofthatisindependentofwhattheydidrightorwrongwiththeirtreatmentofAhmed.
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[] PANTSONMIXTAPE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Arentyourrightsseverelylimitedwhenonschoolproperty?
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Notseverely(dependingonwhoisasked),buttheschoolhasauthoritytoadministertheschoolanditsstudents.
Studentshaverights,butsomerightshavetoyieldtoaddressthegoodofall.Lotsandlotsofcasesonschoollaw.Fun
toread.
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[] woody60707 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yousurethat'sstatelaw?IknowILit'snotthecase,butIcan'ttellyouhowmanytimespeoplehave(wrongly)toldmea
juvenalcan'tbearrestwithouttheparent's.
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ApparentlyaccordingtoTexaslaw,yes,Ahmed'sparentsshould'vebeennotified.
(DowetrustaDailyBeastreporter'sreferencetothelaw?)
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[] AerThreepwood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weird.InVirginia,I'dalwayshavetocallmyparentsduringintakeatJDC.
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[] pinata_penis_pump2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andheneveransweredtheirquestions.Allhehadtodowassay"no"to"didyoubringabombtoschool"buthedidn't.The
littleshitbroughtitalluponhimself.
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Andheneveransweredtheirquestions.
Doyouhaveanysourcetoshowthat?Orareyouinventingit?AllIreadwasthathecontinuedtoinsistthatitwasjusta
clockwhichwasthetruth.
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[] Solomaxwell6 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouhaveanysourcethathedidn'tansweranyquestions?EverythingI'mseeingclaimsthatherepeatedlytoldthem
itwasaclock.
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[] WadeK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknowyouhavealegalrighttonottalktothepolice,right?Itdoesn'tmakeyou"alittleshit",infactit'sthesmart
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thingtotounlessthere'salawyerpresent.EspeciallyinatownwherethemayorpromisedonGlennBeckthatshe
wouldn'tletanyMuslimstolivetherepeacefully.Itcouldverywellhavebeenadumbpublicitything,butthecopsstill
wentoverboard.
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Hewasgrilledbytheschooladministration,thenbypolice
I'mcuriousastohowweknowthis.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Mohamed_clock_incidentquotesnewsstories.Thereareplentyoutthere.
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[] mkstar93 525points
MakingfakebombsarealsoagainstTexaslaw
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[] vadergeek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isitmakingafakebombifitdoesn'tlookparticularlybomblikeandherepeatedlystatesthatit'snotabomb?
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Isit?Isthereaclause,likethe"can'ttellfireinatheater"typething?IfIwasmakingaindiefilmandmadeafakebomb
asaprop,wouldthatbeillegal?
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[] mkstar93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifyouwereMuslimyea/s
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[] dont4geturhere4ever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ididn'tlooklikeabomb.Itwasatinypencilcasewithnothinginitresemblingexplosives.Yourcommentalsokindof
impliesthatit'sokaytotreatcriminalsuspectsinillegalandunconstitutionalways,anditreallyfuckingisn't.
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[] Hshbrwn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausesomeonebreaksthelawthatdoesn'tmeantheyaren'tentitledtoitthemselves.
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[] dtfkeith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andbringingthemtoschool.Fuckingschool!!
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Whatqualifiesasafakebombthough?
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idkijustpostedforkarma
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[] youropinionsfalse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soweshouldholdlawenforcementtothesamestandardascriminalswhomakefakebombs...OK.
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Hedonedupedthesystem.Andeverybodyonfacebookstoodwithhim.
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[] causal_friday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Alarmclocksandpencilcasesarenotfakebombs.
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[] Im_A_Racehorse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlotofthingsareagainstTexaslaw.Can'thavefunanymoredownthere.
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[] GenBlase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thelawneversaysmakingfakebombsareagainstthelaw.Itsthebombscaresthatareagainstthelaw.
Otherwisemydoggyfakebombsqueakytoyisanotheroneofmydog'sattemptstokillme.
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[] skullins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,exceptheisn'ttheonebeingpaidtoupholdthelaws.
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[] IWannaTouchYourButt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobefair,heneversaiditwasabomb.
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Buthedidn'tactuallymakeanything.
Unlesstakingthegutsoutofoneelectronicandputtingthemintosomethingelseconstitutesmakingsomething
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whichdoesnot,inanyway,excusethe4thand5thamendmentviolations,
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[] Polymarchos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgethowtheyviolatedhisthirdandnineteenthamendmentrights.
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[] AngrySiouxBaru undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noneofthosewereviolated...Hewasinapublicschoolandhewasn'tconvicted.Neitherwereviolated.Butthis
isredditsofeelfreetobelievewhateveryouwantandthrowtheconstitutionaroundinappropriately.
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[] AnotherBlackMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenifwhathedidconstitutes"makingafakebomb"thenwhyisitcompletelyokayforthepolicetobreak
thestatelawandtakeawayhisrights?Evenifthewholethingwasorchestrated,itshowsagravemisgiving
ofthejusticesystem.
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Under18yourrightsarelimitedasareyourresponsibilitiesbecauseifyouarelikemostteensyou
don'tunderstandthedepthofyouractions.
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[] meherab undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sothepoliceshouldbreakthelawwhenarrestingcriminals?Whynotjustonspotexecutionthen?
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[] Milo_theHutt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dontbombsusuallynothaveclocksonthem?
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[] Paulthesaylor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somebodyhasneverseenamovie
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Onlycartoonbombshaveclocks,maybethiskidisacartoon.
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[] pridetwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Usingadigitalclock/watchalarmisactuallyaverypopular(dubiouswordchoice)methodofdetonatingatimed
IED.
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[] mog_knight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Throwersdon'tcareabouttickingbecausemodernbombsdon'ttick.Nowiftheluggageisvibrating,thenthey
havetocallthepolice.9timesoutof10it'sanelectricshaver.Butsometimes,whispersIt'sadildo.Nowit's
companypolicynevertoassignownershipofthedildo.It'salwaysthedildo,oradildo.
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ButIdon'townad...waveshimoff
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[] diggexpat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Never.......yourdildo.
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Never...
Yourdildo.
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Timedbombsneedaclocktosetthechargebutdetonatorswithoutclocksrequireyoutobeneartheexplosion
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goodjobaclockisn'tafakebombthen
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Yes.Becausesomanyclockscomeinsuitcasesandlooklikemoviebombs.Justanormalclockinsuitcase
guys!Nothingtoseehere!
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[] khamul787 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasn'tinasuitcase.Andwhatkindofbombhasabigdigitalclockdisplay?
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Bombsinmovies.Howmanyrealbombsdoyouthinkgradeschoolteachershaveseenintheirlives?
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[] khamul787 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyouwouldassumethatsomewiresandaclockfaceinapencilcasewasabomb?
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Lol,soyou'reoneofthosethatsaysitdidn'tevenlooklikeabomb?
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[] marr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Traditionally,bombsincludesomesortofexplosivecharge,notjustabunchofcircuitboardsandwires.
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[] boatliker88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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andagunusuallyhasamagazineinitbutyouwouldstillgetintroubleifyoushowedoffafakey
airsoftgunwithoutamaginit
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[] TheCard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thekidmadeitlookasmuchlikeabombaspossible.Ifyouwereateacherwhodoesn'tknowmuchabout
technology,whatwouldyouthinkwhenyouseeabriefcasewithabunchofwireswrappedarounditbeepingin
themiddleofclasswithascreenandnumbers.
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[] XtremeGnomeCakeover undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasanLEDdigitboard,anotherboardfortheactualtimingmechanism,someswitches,andsome
batteriesinapencilcase.Youwouldn'tbeabletofitahalfstickofdynamiteinthespacethatwasleft.
Maybehewasshowingitoffbecausehethoughtitwascool.
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[] sandmyth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nobatteries,justaconnectorforone.thethingranoffA/Cmainspower.
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[] bandersnatchh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,therearebetterexplosivesthandynamite
Youcangetalotmorebangforyourbuckwithothermixtures.Nottomention,itdoesn'ttakemuchto
shootshrapneleverywhere.
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[] GenBlase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowIwould.
YoufuckersshowoffyourleetPCbuilds,Ishowoffmyleetclockbuild.
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[] xchino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ioverclockmyclocks,Imaynotknowwhattimeitisbuttheperformanceisphenomenal.
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ifyouwereateacherthatdoesn'tknowmuchabouttechnology
Thereistheproblem.
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IfIwereateacherandhonesttogodthoughtitwasabomb,Iwouldprobablyevacuatetheschoolinstead
ofsendingthekidtotheprincipal'sofficetobequestionedforanhourandahalf.Itseemsprettyclearto
me,fromthesequenceofevents,thattheyknewitwasn'tafunctionalbombearlyon.
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[] joshdmww undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/10/46/46.08
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[] crazyex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyouwereateacherandevacuatedtheschoolyouwouldbepunishedsinceteachersdonotinitiate
evacuatingschools.
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[] jemosley1984 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydidn'ttheyevacuatetheschool?
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[] Bat_Mannington undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausetheydidn'tthinkitwasabomb.Theythoughtitwasmadetolooklikeabomb.
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Guessitwasmissingthelitfusehuh?
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[] TheCard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hesetitoffduringthemiddleofclasssoitstartedbeeping...
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noshitsherlock.
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[] domirossi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aclock.Whothefuckputsatimeronabombthatdisplaysthecurrenttime?
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[] ambitiousmix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisn'tamovie,therewasnobriefcasesostopexaggerating.
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uhyeah,itwasabriefcase.thisvideoshowsexactlywhatahmeddidto"inventaclock".
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[] SamBoosa58 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasapencilcase
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[] Has_faith_in_the_op undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereabsolutelywasabriefcase.
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[] BoredinSyracuse 7points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellthiswasproventrueImen'sthatclockedlooksketchyandeveryoneincludingObamajoinedtheislamphobiabs.
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[] GetOrangePeeled 11points
Wat
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[] Artiemes 437points
Ifthiswastrue,I'dbesofuckingimpressedthatthehighschoolagedkidplannedanationaloutrageandscandal.
Waymorethanhimbeingsmartenoughtoassembleaclock.
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[] Caidynelkadri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahitain'texactlyhardthesedays.
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[] heptode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedidn'tassembleaclock.Hetookanexistingclockoutofitscasing.It'sobviousfromthephotographs.
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[] Aldo_The_Apache_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhisdaddidthat
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[] YNot1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Really?Itdoesn'ttakemuchtoplanthatout,itsbeingthekindofsociopathtothinkitsoktocarryitoutthatisthehardpart.
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Nooffense,butgettingthenationintoanuproaraboutsomethingseemsprettydamnhardifyouplanondoingitintentionally.
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Thenationaloutragewasnotnecessary,theyonlyneededanexcusetosue.
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[] griph00k undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhesfamiliarwithbuzzfeedandhowtheinternetworksthesedaysofjustlazysitescopyingwhatevertheviralstoryofthedayis,
itsnotallthathardtoputittogether
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[] Trumps_hairfluff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisdadwastheonewhoorchestratedit.Duh
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[] athennna undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'slikeballoonboyalloveragain
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[] choomguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hefreakindisassembledaclock.Significantdifference.Jesus,useyourheadforsomethingotherthanhatrack.
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[] InsertEvilLaugh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismorelikesomethinghisdadhadplanned.NowIdoknowsomehighschoolagedkidswhoareprettyclever,butnotthat
clever.
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Imean,itisn'tthatcomplicated.
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[] nitotheblue 4points
Yep,that's007nemesislevelplanning,exceptthe"badguy"won.What'dhewin,whofuckingknows
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Whatdidhewin?Uh,acollegescholarship,meetingwiththepresident,numerousTVappearances,andcurrentlysuingfor
15minimum...
Yeah..."Whatdidhewin"...
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[] DirtyDan257 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthoughthejustgotatourofMIT,notascholarship?
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Oh,andthesamenationwhichwassogeneroustohimforwhateverhewentthrough?
No,hisDadsaidfuckthat,we'removingto"tolerant"Qatar,butwe'retakingthegiftsandthe$15millionwithus!
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[] Darkpaladin109 2points
Simpathy?
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[] downvotethelogic 49points
Itwashisdadandhissisterthatorchestratedthis.
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[] ghostofpennwast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hissisteralreadymadeahoaxbomboncebefore
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Hisdadisapolitician.
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So?
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[] mugglesnuffin 1155points
Ithinkyourmisunderestimatinghowmuchhisdadhadtodowithitall.
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[] sidewalkchalked undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
StillifhedidaviralstuntthatgotObama,ZuckerbergandNASAallonthehook,that'sworthatleast$5.
IfIwasamarketingpersonandpromisedabrandthatexposureit'dbeworth515milprobably.
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[] Deadlifted undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inaworldwherenonwhitepeoplegetkilledbythepoliceforcarryingtoys,Idon'tseeaparent,especiallyabrownone,
encouragingtheirsontodosomethingthatcouldeasilygethimkilledbyanoverzealouscop.Ithinkitwasjustakidthatwas
equalpartsproudofhistinkeringandalsoadipshitteenagerthatwantstomesswithauthorityalittlebit.Eitherway,arresting
himwasasteptoofar.Makethekidwritea2000wordessayonwhydistractingclassisbadandmoveon.
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[] OgdenTO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'smymisunderestimating.Giveitback.
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[] dpatt711 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howmanytypesofunderestimatingarethere?
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Yoiureallmisunderstandinghowthefathercouldpossiblyhavepredictedthatthepolicewouldviolatetheboys4thand5th
amendmentrights,settingupalawsuitinthefirstplace.
Yesyes,hisfather,knowingfullwellthedepthoftheracismoftheteacher,principalandlawenforcement.Setthisup
knowingthattheprincipalHADNOCHOICEbuttocallthepolice.thenthepoliceHADNOCHOICebuttoholdhim
incommunicado.
Itwasgenius./s
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[] Joninator5000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FoundGeorgeBush
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[] casual_drunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
misunderestimating
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[] downvotehero undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Soundslikeawordtodescribeafailedattemptatunderestimation.
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[] Gehalgod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybenexttimeyouwillmisestimateme.
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[] chicklet2011 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
your
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[] m84m undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
your
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[] buckykat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
evenmore
yourmisunderestimating
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[] FriskyBiscuit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettysurethat'scalledoverestimating.
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[] necrow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noyoujustdon'tgetit,he'sincorrectlyunderestimatingit..Orsomething
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[] Liniis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
your
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[] casual_drunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tbelieveImissedthat.
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[] mugglesnuffin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobehonest,I'mnotanativeenglishspeakerit'smy2nd/3rdlanguage...Butbeingevenmorehonest
thathasnothingtodowithit.
I'musuallythefirstonetocorrectpeopleonyour/you'remistakes.
Iknowthedifferencebetweenapossessiveadjectiveandacontractive,yetImanagedtotypeitwrongthis
timesomehow.
Ideservetoberidiculed,forIhavefailed.
ThebestpartisthatsomepeoplethinkIdiditonpurposetomaketheBushismsoundevendumber:)
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[] MexicanVaginaTurtle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
it'slikehegothalfwaythroughwritingmisunderstandingandkindofforgotwhathewasgonnasay.
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[] Dont____Panic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foolmeonce,shameon...me.Foolmetwice....shame....Notgonnafoolmeagain.
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[] Justin72 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
misunderstandimating?
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[] saycj23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybehewasata[10]
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Wedon'tneedtogethunguponbig,fancywordswhenflyingourrightwingracism!
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[] joshthephysicist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,that'sthebiggestmisunderstimationI'veheard.
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[] Nine_Cats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saBushquote
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[] JackAceHole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eventhemisunderuseoftheword"your"?
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[] ghill04 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Strategery
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[] Kong_Dong undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Foolme.....Foolmeonce....Foolmeonceshameon.....Shameonme....Foolmetwiceshameon....
Shameonyou...Foolmethree...yeah,threetimes...I'mgoingtocreateanationalcatastrophetobemy
scapegoatwhileIbangHilaryClintoninherbigdumbmouthwhileBilldoesblowoutofmyassandhelps
mefigureoutthisstupidassfuckingclich.
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[] truth__bomb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustlikecallingaBushismaBushquote.
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[] Polaris06 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Afriendlyreminderthatmostpeopleonhereare12.
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[] being_no_0ne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
your
Iwouldn'tgivethemthatmuchcredit.
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[] Nine_Cats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatalmostaddstotheBushism,though
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[] soggymittens undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forreal?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism
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[] arduhn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itis,butheusedthewrongyour.Itshouldbeyou're.
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[] TheVegetaMonologues undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shortmemoriesonhere
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[] gngstrMNKY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Morelike"happened15yearsagowhentheywereaninfant".
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[] Nunuyz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bushism*
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[] Day5225 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowthatheknows,hecan'tgetfooledagain.
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Hewasjustworkinghardtoputfoodonhisfamily.
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Heisjusttryingtoputfoodonhisfamily.
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hehheh..
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[] White_N_Gold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tbeahypocriticizer.
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[] MexicanVaginaTurtle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
damn,gottagetbetterattheseinternets.
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[] Ekolot 3869points
It'snotreallyaconspiracytheoryifyoulookatthefacts.Hedidn't"invent"anything.HebasicallyunscrewedthebackpanelofaWal
Martalarmclock,tookouttheelectronics,andputitinacaseandstartedshowingeverybodyatschool.Healsomadesuretowearhis
NASAtshirtwhilehissistertookthatnowfamousphotoofhiminhandcuffs.
HisdadisprofessionalliarandpoliticianandnowthefamilyismovingtoQatarandwants$15million?Fuckthem.Theyplannedthe
thingoutfromthebeginning.
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[] johnwayne1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsohissisterhadasimilarincidentcoupleyearsearlier
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[] kwertyuiop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoessemanticsofinventvsputtogetherhavetodowithanyofthetheory?
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[] chef2303 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatarollercoaster.
Heinventedacooldevice!
It'sabomb!
No,it'sjustracism.
Ohitwasaschamfromhisdadtogetmoney.
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[] throwawaycompiler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,Idon'tgetthatpicture.
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Itisprettylikelythat"they"didn'tplanit,butthatthefatherdid,andthatheisafecklessandunethicalmanipulatorwhoiswillingto
swinghiskidsaroundasaweapon.Likethiswomandoeswithherdog.
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[] christophicas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youapparentlyhavenoideawhatdefinesaconspiracy.Yes,itisabsolutelyaconspiracy.
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TheymadeMuslims,nerds,andLiberalseverywherealllooklikeidiots.
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[] 5iveby5ive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah.Thisisprettyobvious.Probablymoresothan"balloonboy".
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Sorryyou'resayingit'snotaconspiracyifyoulookatthefacts?Tomeitsoundslikeyou'resayingthefactsare:
Hedisassembledandremadeaclock
Heshowedittopeople,tellingthemitwasaclock
HeworeaNASAshirttoschool
Andyouthinkthatthiswasallpartofamasterplantohavehimgetarrestedbythepoliceandsuetheschooldistrict?Youthinkthis
kidisafuckingwizard?Inwhatreasonableworlddotheabovethingsgetakidarrested?AsfarasIcantell,nobodythoughtfor
evenasecondthatitwasabomb,andtheyarrestedhimanyways.
Wheneverpeoplesay"hedidn'tinventanything!"itjuststunsme.Obviouslyhedidnotinventtheclock,theclockwasinvented
hundredsofyearsagoaspartoftheindustrialrevolutionandwenowevenhavewristwatchesandtelephoneswhichcantellthe
time.Iamawarehesimplyreassembledaclockfromclockparts.Whatdoyouthinkheisclaimingtodo,exactly?
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[] rezilient undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howcouldhehaveknownpeoplewouldreactthatwaytohis"experiment"?
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[] Howie_85Sabre undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Okaylet'ssaythat'salltrue.Howdoesthatexcusehowtheschoolandpoliceresponded?
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[] Kdj87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilovehowthemajorityofredditwasupinarmsdefendingthiskid,andonceallthisstuffcameoutmostredditorsactliketheynever
defendedhimandtheyknewallalong(I'mnotsayingyou'reoneofthosepeople)
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[] sokpuppet1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow.
So...Theyplannedthisoutfromthebeginning.
Howcouldtheyknowthateverybody,fromtheteachers,totheprincipal,tothepoliceandeventhemayorwouldreactthiswaytoa
"Walmartclock?"
Inanynonracist,normalplace,peoplewouldhavebeenlike,niceclock,kid.To"plan"somethinglikethismeanstheyhadtobank
onboththeschoolstaffandthepoliceactingincrazybigotedoverreactionaryways...
Andifthosepeopledidso,thenit'sonthem.
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[] Reck_yo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Waitwhat?Imean...redditknew...theyjustKNEWitwasracism.
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[] ArthurWeasley_II undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gee,thanksforthetotallyunbiasedfactsynopsis.
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Wouldn'tthatbeaconspiracythen?
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[] Scoop_Life undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Consideringthisallbankedonareactionwithrootsinignorantfear,ifthiswasinfactplannedoutapriori,theschooldistrictand
policedepartmentaretheonestoblamefortheirownfolly.
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Whyisthetshirtimportant?
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[] Darinbenny1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howcouldtheyensurethepolicewouldactsostupidly?
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[] maya0nothere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idontknow.Hadnobodydoneanythingathisschool,anddidntthinkitwasabomb,nocallstocops,nopress.Nostory.Nogoing
towhitehouse.Nochancetosueanybody.
Itwasactuallyineverybodyelseshandtotakethingstowheretheywent.
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[] overtoke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hewasshowinghowaclockworked,howtheelectronicswereconnectedtothelcdandhowhecouldmanipulatethedisplay.
henevermadeanyclaims."isthatabomb?"no...it'sjustaclock"
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[] Ayman250 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yupyousolvedit.Nowayitwasakidwhodoeswhatalotofotherkidshisagedo,stupidschoolofficialswhichareincredibly
common,andlittleracismwhichisn'talltoouncommonwherehe'sfrom.
It'snotreallyaconspiracytheoryifyoulookatthefacts.Ihopeyourealizehowridiculousthatsounds.I'mnotgoingtosayit
wasorwasnotplanned,buttosaythefactsyoupresentedshowundoubtedlythatitwasplannedisincrediblystupidandnaive.
Thefactthatsomanypeopleagreewithyouisevenmoredisheartening.
Thisget'smethemost.
HealsomadesuretowearhisNASAtshirtwhilehissistertookthatnowfamousphotoofhiminhandcuffs
Youreallyaregraspingatstrawsmyfriend.
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[] pixiegod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Letsassumeallofthisistrue.
Anadultshouldknowbetterandletthekidbelieveheisaninventor..
Asanexample,Justbecausea5yearoldtauntsmetoafightcallingme"bigdoodyface"anddoesitoverandoverdoesn'tmeanI
gettogoapeshitonthelittleturd.Theresponsefromanadulttowhatisclearlyashittyclock...afterthekidkeptsayingitwasa
clockisextremeatbestanddoespointtoclearlackofrationalthinkingbytheadults.
Thekidneversaiditwasabomb.Thekidsaiditwasaclock.Ifhedidsetatraphopinghewoulddiscovertheoneuneducated
racistteacherwhoclearlywentoverboard...thenhowwouldthatbedifferentthanChrisHansenpretendingheisa12yearold?
Doesitmakethosepedophilesanylessguilty?
Letsassumeallofthiswasatrap.Hedidn'tforcethatteachertoassociateallMuslimswithbombsandgoapeshit...thekidjust
illustratedtheproblemthatalreadyexisted.
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[] pixiegod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Letsassumeallofthisistrue.
Anadultshouldknowbetterandletthekidbelieveheisaninventor..
Asanexample,Justbecausea5yearoldtauntsmetoafightcallingme"bigdoodyface"anddoesitoverandoverdoesn'tmeanI
gettogoapeshitonthelittleturd.Theresponsefromanadulttowhatisclearlyashittyclock...afterthekidkeptsayingitwasa
clockisextremeatbestanddoespointtoclearlackofrationalthinkingbytheadults.
Thekidneversaiditwasabomb.Thekidsaiditwasaclock.Ifhedidsetatraphopinghewoulddiscovertheoneuneducated
racistteacherwhoclearlywentoverboard...thenhowwouldthatbedifferentthanChrisHansenpretendingheisa12yearold?
Doesitmakethosepedophilesanylessguilty?
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Letsassumeallofthiswasatrap.Hedidn'tforcethatteachertoassociateallMuslimswithbombsandgoapeshit...thekidjust
illustratedtheproblemthatalreadyexisted.
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[] schlitz91 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
$15MwillneverhappeninTX.AkidinHoustonlegitgotbeatwithametalnightstickbyaschoolsecurityguardandsettledfor$60k.
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[] WhiteHeterosexualGuy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifyoulookatthefacts.
Wherearethefacts?Honestly,theonlythingIcanfindonthiscaseissensationalnewsarticles.
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Iknowitsprobablyplayingintotheirgamebuthebasicallydidthison9/11,seemscontrivedaswell.
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[] Wirenutt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasactuallyanoldRadioShack(Microntabrand)alarmclock.Butyeah,therestistrue.
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Notsurewhattheirintentionswereinthiscase,butingeneralpeoplewholieorscamthesystemorpublictrusttogetpayout
settlementsneedaspecialplaceinhell.
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[] pielords9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hisNASAshirtcanbefoundatyourlocaltargetfor$6
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That'satheoryinaconspiracy.Howisthatnotaconspiracytheory.Dummy
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[] flayling_willy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
heevenlookslikehe'spanderingforthephoto.
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I'vesaidthisbefore,buttheyreallyshould'vepickedacountrytomovetowithless...slaverythanQatar
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[] triddy5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,it'stotallynotbelievablethatheissuingthemfordefamationofcharacterandthefailureoftheschooltoissueanapologyand
aretraction.
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Iquestionwhethertherewasaplan.Presentlythefamilyisseekingitsadvantage,thought,tothetuneofseveralmillions.In
additiontotheirfifteen(maybemore)minutes,theygotaboostfromthetimekeeperinchief.
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[] riversfan17 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sakid.That'sacoolprojectforakid.
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[] Hepcatoy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BalloonBoy,2015
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[] trystanrice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Ifthiswastheplanallalongthenitstillreliesonacertainlevelofparanoidsuspicionandracialprofillingwithinthesysteminorderto
work.Thatshitisn'tacceptable.
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[] ChickennWaffles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihopeitbringstolighthowasininezerotolerancepoliciesare.
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[] Whatevs4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotreallyaconspiracytheoryifyoulookatthefacts.
That'sexactlywhataconspiracytheoristwouldsay!
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See,Icanagreewiththis,exceptforonething:Whywouldyousitakidwithabombdowninanoffice?Whydidn'ttheycallabomb
squad?Unlesstheschoolwasinonitorsomething,Ithinkit'smorelikelythatAFTERtheevent,thefamilybegantotake
advantageofthesituation.
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[] poochyenarulez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tunderstandhowpeoplethinkitlookedlikeabomb.IfeellikeIcouldtaperedandwhitewirestoarockandpeoplethinkitsa
bomb.
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[] Heiz3n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howdoesitadvancehispoliticalcareerifheisleavingthecountry?
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[] SnakesOnAShip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ya.Itallsoundswaytoocalculatedtome.
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oneofthethingsthatpissedmeoffthemost,isthatpeopleweretalkingaboutthiskidlikehewasfuckingtonystark.Bullshit.He
guttedaclock,putitinabriefcase,andthatwasit.lateronhe'sonsomenewsshowandthey'retalkingabouthowinquisitiveheis
andlikestoinventstuff,andheholdsup,whichi'massumingisamotheboardthatisjustabsolutelycoveredwithwireseverywhere,
andeveryonefreaksthefuckoutaboutit,talkingabouthowcoolthatis,becausetheyhavenofuckingclue.
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[] noxnsol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisterribleargumentinmyopinion.Idon'tthinkyou'reright,butI'llhumoryouforthesakeofthisargument.Let'ssayyousee
yourfriendtakeouthislunchandleaveitonatable.Thenyoustealandeathislunchandclaimyoudon'tknowwhathappened.
Let'sthensayherevealedhehadahiddencamerasetupbecausehethoughtyou'dstealhislunch.Isitevenrelevantthathe
baitedyouintostealing?Itdoesn'tsuddenlychangethefactthatyouwereashittyenoughpersontosteal.
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[] Gogohax undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IreadsomewherethathisdadalsoplansonrunningforPresidentinadifferentcountryinthenearfutureandmanipulatedthisstory
tofuelhisfuturecampaign.
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Imissedthefollowupthatitwasahugescam.Didn'tabunchofcompaniessendtonsofshittothis"buddinginventor"?MaybeI
shouldtrythis,IneedsomenewtechstuffforChristmas...
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[] skullins undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotreallyaconspiracytheoryifyoulookatthefacts.
Well,yeah,itstillis.Wewouldhavetoknowforsurehediditforthatreasontosayit'snotatheory.Doesn'tmatterhowmuchyou
thinkthefactspointthatway.
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[] SmellySlutSocket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisdadisprofessionalliarandpolitician
Noneedtoberedundant
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[] DeadFamilyMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'ttellthistotheredditardsthedayof,Igotblastedforsayingitwasprettyobviouslythoughtout.MovieStyleclockbombina
metalbriefcase,brownkidinthecurrentclimate,politicalfather.Itdidn'tadduptosomeinnocentlittleincidenttome.
Thiswasaplanfromthegetgoandtheoverlywelcomingwaytheyaddressedthemedia,buyingthempizzaforthecameraguys
outsidetheirhouse,it'sallsocalculated.Nobodyisthatniceorinnocentorcalmwhentheirkidisactuallywronged.Normalpeople
wouldhavebeenirateandnobodynormalwantsamediacircusintheirfrontyard.
10/10goodtrollthough
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JustreadtheWiki.It'sbeeneditedtotakeapoliticalstanceanddoesn'tmentionwhyDawkinshadsuspicionsabouttheclockand
saidit'wasn'tanewinvention'.
Althoughanyinventionis'new'andanyWikipediaeditorshouldhaveknownthat,thepointwasit'snotactuallyaninventionit'sa
disassembledproduct.
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[] smellsmoist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NASAshirt?NotaSaudiArabian?
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HealsomadesuretowearhisNASAtshirtwhilehissistertookthatnowfamousphotoofhiminhandcuffs[1].
Wellthatpartisjustsilly.HemadesuretowearhisNasashirt?Thatisunbasedatbest.
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[] somedude456 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veoftenthoughtabouthowsomeonecouldscamthewholeinternetviaagofundmeorso,andwhiletheclockterroristdidn'tuse
thesite,he'sdoingadamngoodjobsofar.
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[] supermanfan122508 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Godthatkid'sgotapunchableface.
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Thiskidissogoingtobecomeaterrorist.IcanjustimaginehimreadingRedditandplottinghisrevenge.
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[] theworldchild undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sthedefinitionofaconspiracytheory.Justbecauseyouhavealotofreasonstobelieveitdoesn'tmeanit'snotaconspiracy
theory.
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[] SamuelCish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshitthismightbetrue.
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[] c3h8pro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dotheyknowballoonboysparents?
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[] YourNotAngryNeighbor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthisistrue,whichisprobablyis,Ifeelthedadshouldtakemoreblame.It'spossiblethedadisjustbeingamassiveassholeand
usinghiskidsaspawnstosuepeople.
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[] parkerknoll undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,butit'snotPCtoagreewithyou.
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[] verbify undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'treallygetwhatyouthinkthethoughtprocesswas:
Hey,let'stakeaclock,putitinasuitcase,I'llshowitaroundschooluntil...Igetarrestedandputincuffs,becausethat'swhat
happenswhen12yearoldkidsputclocksinsuitcases
Howcouldhepredictthathe'dgetarrestedforit?Maybethey'djustconfiscateitlikenormalpeoplewould?
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[] BoozeoisPig undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,Iwouldstillsaythatitismostlythefaultoftheschoolanyway.AhmedMohammedknewexactlywhathewasdoing,andhedid
wasteeveryone'stime.Butthefactthatdoingnothingmorethantakingaclockscircuitryoutofaclockandputtingitinanothercase
wasenoughtorequiretheinvolvementofauthoritiessaysmoreaboutusthanitdoeshim.
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[] da_truth_gamer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idisagree.Forthistowork,alotofchipswouldhavetolineupPERFECTLY.
Forexample...
1. Ateacherwouldhavetoreportit..<Easystep.
2. Theschoolwouldhavetotakefurtheraction.<easystep.
Nowhereiswhereitgetsmessyy...
1. ThiskidsfamilywouldhavetobeSUREforafactthattheschoolandcopswouldhavehimhandcuffed...eventhoughthe
schoolKNOWSheisinRoboticsclub.<Riskofthisnotworking.
2. HewouldhavetoKNOWforafacthewouldbetakentojailandfingerprinted,andnothaveaccesstotalktoparents.<
Anotherrisk.
Therearealotofthingstheschoolandcopscould'vedonetofoilhisdiabolicalplantosuethemlike"Letsnotputhiminhandcuffs..
andkeephiminaroom","Letscheckthedeviceoutfirst".
Thiscould'vebeenaneasycaseofsuspensionforthekid.
Also...yousay"HemadeitpurposelylooklikeabombusingaWalmartclock".welltotheuntrainedeye,evenaclockmadefrom
scratchlookslikeabomb.Forexample:
KidsClock:http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/09/CLOCK.png
Clockmadefromscratch:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LOggJQ3tNM8/maxresdefault.jpg
AnotherclockmadefromScratch:https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/rgbclock_main.jpg
Tome....TheyALLlookbomblike,andIwould'vereportedanyifIsawthem,butinyourdefense,thekidtakesaSLIGHTedge
becauseit'sabriefcase.
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[] wannacreamcake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noitwouldn'tbealoteasier.ThewholepremiseofthisisthathewasjustakidintoSTEMwhowasshowingoffhiswork.Not
akidwhowasintoterrorismshowingoffhismilitantstyleclothing.
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[] dale_glass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IMOifthereisaconspiracy,it'sasimplerone.
Itmayhavebeenhisowninitiative.Hewasn'tplanningtomakenationalnews.Hesimplyhadaninterestinasocialissue,
andfiguredhecouldsafelymakeapoint.Maybeheheadsomebodysaysomethinghedidn'tlikeandfiguredhecould
embarrasstheadministration.
Hehadagoodideaofhowtocauseamess,andhealsoknew(likelythroughhisfather)whattheconsequenceswouldbe,
thathewouldgetofflightly,andthathisfatherwouldsupporthim.Hemighthavemadeaminorplantomakesurethere
wouldbeaphotothatwouldpainthiminasympatheticlight,ifhegotarrested.
ImagineIwasinacurrentschoolwithafatherdeeplyinterestedinsuchissues,andthoughtthiswhole"zerotolerance"stuff
wasaloadofcrap.Itwouldn'tbeallthathardformetostageasimilarstunt,andknowledgethatIwouldmakeoutofit
unscathedwouldeasilypushmetogoaheadwithit.
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[] thehoneytree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisalsoa14yearoldkid.Alloftheseconspiracytheories,evenyoursimplerone,seemwayoutoftherealmfora
kidtobrewup.
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Idon'tseewhy.He'syoung,notstupid.Imyselfintentionallyprovokedateachersacoupletimesaroundthatage.
Hedoesn'tevenneedtobrewitup,todaythere'splentyinspirationonTVandontheinternet.
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So,whatyou'retellingmeisyouthinkthislittlekidandhisfatherinthereowntwistedwaytryingtomakesome
dumbassstatementliketheguyoffoffourlions.
http://i.imgur.com/tIXiams.jpg
http://38.media.tumblr.com/b7e61823e6ca3c3053397f9746c7217e/tumblr_mya7s6YlFT1qb05aco4_r1_250.gif
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Ithinkthatgiventhathisfatherwasinvolvedinactivismit'sfairlylikelythatthekidwasinspiredtodoastuntofhis
own,knewhowtodoit,knewhisfatherwouldbeonhisside,andknewthelikelyconsequences.Andwhenthat
workedbetterthanexpectedthefathertookover.
Ihighlydoubttherewassomegrandplanwiththeintentionofgettinginternationalfamefromthestart.Morelike
hewastryingtomakeapoint,likemanyteenagersdo,anditjusthappenedthathewasverywellinformedand
hadtherighttimingandcircumstancesthatensuredthathisattemptworkedmuchbetterthanusual.
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So,exactlylikethatguyonFourLions..
Onasidenote,Youshouldcheckthatmovieout.Hilarious.
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Justasanaside,re.thehandcuffs.Itisstandardpracticeinsomeplacestohandcuffadolescentswhileintransport.Itis
supposedtobealimitonselforotherharm.Itisgarishtoobservebutthat'sthechoicesomejurisdictionshavemade.Now,
ifONLYthiskidweretransportedthatway,itcouldbeaproblem.
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Youthinkhavingateacherreportinghimandhavingtheschoolcallthepoliceistheeasypart,butyouthinkhimconsequently
beingarrestedandmildlymistreatedwhileincustodywouldbedifficulttopredict?Notsurewhyanyonewouldhavetobe
NostradamustopredictthatorKevinMitnicktosociallyengineerthesituation.Seemsplausible.
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Disclaimer(sincethereisacirclejerkgoingon..):Iamnotdefendingthiskid.15milisoutrageous,andthekidandhis
familyshouldbeashamed.Iampointingouthowthistheorymakesnosenseatall.
IsaiditwaseasybecauseANYONE(evenI)would'vereportedthatsituationifitwasarandomkidwithabriefcase.The
pointishewasn'tjustarandomkid.Theschoolknewhewasamemberoftheroboticsclub.Therewasahighchance
theschoolcould'vejustlethimgoknowingthesekidsintheclubmesswithcontraptions.You'dthinkifthisfamilythatis
sooooodiabolicalanddeviouslikethegeniusesofRedditclaim,thisfamilywouldpredict"Oh,theymightjustlethimgo
anditmightnotmakenationalnews....".LikeIsaidtotheotherguy.Ifthisfamilywasthisclevertodothis,thereare
waybetterwaysofgoingaboutplayingtheracecardandmakingaquickbuck.
Also,thebiggestholeinthiselaboratetheoryis"HEINTENTIONALLYMADEITLOOKLIKEABOMB!".Iposted
picturesofregulardigitalclocksmadefromscratch...theytoo,looklikebombstothenakedeye.
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Thepointishewasn'tjustarandomkid.Theschoolknewhewasamemberoftheroboticsclub.
Theschoolalsoknewhissisterhadpreviouslycalledinabombthreat?
You'dthinkifthisfamilythatissooooodiabolicalanddeviouslikethegeniusesofRedditclaim,thisfamily
wouldpredict"Oh,theymightjustlethimgoanditmightnotmakenationalnews....".
Diabolicalanddastardlydoesn'tnecessarilyimplythegreatestlevelofintellectorawarenessofeverysocial
reaction.
Ifthisfamilywasthisclevertodothis,therearewaybetterwaysofgoingaboutplayingtheracecardand
makingaquickbuck.
Maybetheyweren'ttryingtomakenationalnews.Maybetheywerejusttryingtodosomethinginthecommunity.I
reallydon'tknow.Maybethishadsomethingtodowiththebombthreathissisterhadpreviouslygotintotrouble
formaking.I'mnotsure.
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Also,thebiggestholeinthiselaboratetheoryis"HEINTENTIONALLYMADEITLOOKLIKEABOMB!".I
postedpicturesofregulardigitalclocksmadefromscratch...theytoo,looklikebombstothenakedeye.
Anddidn'tyoualsoadmitthathislookedmoresuspicious?Addinthefactthatitwassettogooffinsomewayin
aclassafteranotherteacherhadwarnedhimaboutit...anditallseemsprettysuspicious.Ifmoresuspicious
behaviorwasaddedintothewholeincident...Icouldseewhypeoplewouldbeconcerned.
Butjustasyouarenotdefendingthekid,I'mnotsayingwithabsolutecertaintythateverythinghedidwas
questionableordeservedthereactionthatitreceived.I'mjustsayingthattheredoesseemtobemoreatplay
herethanwhatfirstmeetstheeye.Anditwouldn'tsurprisemeifthisconspiracytheorywastrue.
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1)MostpeoplentheUSknowSikhswearturbans
2)EverseenhowmanypeopleinTexaswearcamouniformscausally?
No,Ithinkpeoplewould'velookedathimwierd,butnotmuchmore.
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[] hangoverDOTTED undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1)MostpeopleintheUSdon'tknowthedifferencebetweenaSikhandatransistor.
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1. AMuslimkidwearingaturbanwithmilitanttypedresstheywear!=Sikh.Believeitornot....thereisadifference
betweenaawayaSikhwearsaturbanandsomeonefromamiddleeasterncountry.
2. WhiteTexanwearingcamouniform!=Muslimguyw/turban+Militantdress.
Again,ifthiswasaconspiracytosuelikeRedditorsaresaying..therewould'vebeenalotmoreeasierwaystoplaythe
racecard.
Also,youforgottomentionhowevenadigitalclockmadefromscratchlooksjustasmuchlikeabombastheonehe
made.Ithinkheisjustlikeanyotherpersongettingsuehappyafteranordealtheywereputthrough.
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Idisagree.Forthistowork,alotofchipswouldhavetolineupPERFECTLY.
Forexample...
1. Ateacherwouldhavetoreportit..<Easystep.
2. Theschoolwouldhavetotakefurtheraction.<easystep.
Nowhereiswhereitgetsmessyy...
1. ThiskidsfamilywouldhavetobeSUREforafactthattheschoolandcopswouldhavehimhandcuffed...eventhoughthe
schoolKNOWSheisinRoboticsclub.<Riskofthisnotworking.
2. HewouldhavetoKNOWforafacthewouldbetakentojailandfingerprinted,andnothaveaccesstotalktoparents.<
Anotherrisk.
Therearealotofthingstheschoolandcopscould'vedonetofoilhisdiabolicalplantosuethemlike"Letsnotputhiminhandcuffs..
andkeephiminaroom","Letscheckthedeviceoutfirst".
Thiscould'vebeenaneasycaseofsuspensionforthekid.
Also,thisishowhisclocklookedlike
Thisiswhatclockmadefromscratchlookslike:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LOggJQ3tNM8/maxresdefault.jpg
Anotherone:
Hewasgrilledbytheschooladministration,thenbypolice,handcuffed,notallowedtotalktohisparents(againstTexaslaw),and
senttoajuveniledetentioncenterwherehewasfingerprinted.
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Don'tforgetthatheisanexpertatsolderingCPUs.
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[] omgflyingbanana undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohgodthatwasinfuriating.
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[] ATM05F3AR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckingfraudifyouaskme."Build"and"Solder"afucking20nmsiliconwafer?okahmed
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[] BenedictCumberland undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youpeoplearefuckinginsane
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[] mostlyemptyspace undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theplanistoocomplicated.
Hanlan'sRazor:Neverattributetomalicethatwhichisadequatelyexplainedbystupidity.
He'sjustadumbkidwhowantstobeanengineer.Hedoesn'tunderstandthemeaningofthewordinvention.Hejustlikes
electronics.
IdidtheexactsamethingwhenIwasakid,exceptIwasonly9or10atthetime.IwouldtearapartanyelectronictoysIcouldget
myhandsonandapplyelectricitytothem.Myfavoritethingtodowastotakea9Vbatteryandtiewirestoeachpole,thentouch
eachwiretodifferentpointsonthecircuitboard.WhenIcouldlightupanLEDormakeaspeakerwhine,IfeltlikeAlbertFucking
Einstein.
Iwouldalsotakealargegaugewireandstickoneendintoanelectricalsocket,thensticktheotherendintotheothersocket.It
wouldmakeahugesparkandthelightswouldgooutinthehouse,thenI'drunintothegarageandfindthebreakerthatflippedand
flipitbackonanddoitagain.
JesushowdidInotfuckingkillmyself.
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[] moonphoenix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait.Therearemorerazors?
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[] Higgenbottoms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgetaboutGillette'sRazor
"TheBestaManCanGet"
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Theproblemis,thekiddidn'tactonhisown.Hesimplygottoldwhattodoandprobablydidn'tevenunderstandwhy.
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Howdoyouknowthat?
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Hisfatherisaknownpoliticanandamedianutwhopullsstuntslikethistogetattentionandlikeyounoticedlittle
AhmedMohammeddoesn'tseemtobethebrightestkid.
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[] dealtwith undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bringinginaclockthatlookslikeabombtoinciteamediastormisacomplicatedplantoyou?
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Exactly,wealldidthisshitwhenwewere7.
IremembermyDadwasanelectricalengineerandIwaslike7andmymomwentouttothegrocerystoretogetsomeshit.
Anyways,Ipluggedinlike50thingsintoonepoweroutletextensioncords,powerstrips,etc.Ihadlike5clocks,afewfans,
computers,etc.Thewholehousewasconnectedtothatonesocket.
SomyMomcomeshomeandIsaid"Heylook,I'manelectricalengineerlikedad!"
Theshitstartedsmokinglikecrazyandwould'vestartedanelectricalfirethatwould'veburneddownthehouseifmyMom
didn'tcomehome.AndIalsofeltlikeAlbertEinstein.
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Yourdadwasanelectricalengineerandyoudidn'thaveacircuitbreaker?
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Thiskiddidnoneofthosethings,andthedifferenceincognitiveabilitybetweenyouraverage9/10yearoldand14areworlds
apart.Youdidallthosethings~4yearsbeforethiskidbuiltahoaxbomb.
Also,don'tdiscounteveryteacherandadministratorintheschoolknowinghimasthebrotherofthegirlwhocalledinabomb
threatandthesonofthatassholecausingproblemsinthecity.
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Agreed.Iftheyareliketheaveragepublicschoolteachers/administrators,theyarelikelyjusttryingtogrindthroughthe
daywithoutneedingtobehospitalizedforobservation.
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Nono,reddithassolvedthisone.
Theycompletelyignorethefactthat,ifthiswasplanned,thentheyhadtoknowbeforehandthathewouldbemistreatedby
schoolofficialsandpolice.
Forrealthough,I'manelectricalengineerandIdidthesameexactstuffasakidtoo.
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Theycompletelyignorethefactthat,ifthiswasplanned,thentheyhadtoknowbeforehandthathewouldbe
mistreatedbyschoolofficialsandpolice.
Ithinktheideaisthatthekidwascountingonthataspartoftheplan.NotsayingIagreeordisagree,butit'snotabout
knowingsomuchasbeingabletopulloffsomebasicsocialengineering.
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Idobelievethatthelawsuitisopportunistic,butIdon'tbelievethiswholethingwaspremeditated.
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Yeah,Icandefinitelyagreeaboutthelawsuit,andhonestlyprettymucheverythingthathappenedafter.Itwasall
jumpingontheopportunity.
But,asforpeoplecallinghima"littleshit"becauseofit,Idon'tagree.Itwashisparents/lawyerdecidingonthat,
nothim.
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[] toastymow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idobelievethatthelawsuitisopportunistic,
ThisisAmerica,thelandofopportunisticlawsuitsthough!What'sMOREAmericanthansuingsomeoneforan
outrageoussumofmoneyonflimsygrounds?
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[] y0m0tha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nosorrythisdoesntfitthecirclejerk
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[] cth1ic_warrior undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Leftiesallfellforittoo.
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Famousphotobeing...aphoto?
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[] Darkpaladin109 2points
What'ssospecialabouttheshirt?Didhenotwearitearlierthatdayorsomething?
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troubleforthedeviceandsothatifapictureweretaken(andonewas),thedadcouldcreatethenarrativeof"lookatthispoor
innocentchild,wantingtobeagreatscientistlikethoseofNASA.Hehastriedtocreatesomething,andinhischildhood
innocencedidnotrealizethateveryonewouldthinkit'sabomb.Nowtheseevilmoronshaveruinedhislifebecausetheyhate
scienceandpeoplewithbrownskin"
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[] Schleprok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nowthat...Isthedefinitionofastretch.
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Idon'thaveadoginthisfight,butIdidthisprecisethinginhighschool.
Ihadanphilosophyclassandlikedtoarguewiththeteacher,holdingthepositionthatanimalsaremoreintelligent
andfeelmorethanhethought(hewasoldandratheroldfashionedinthisregard,IwouldsaythatwhatIargued
backthenisperfectlymainstreamnow).
AfterthefirstcoupletimesIstartedmakingsureI'dwearashirtwithtwozebrasnuzzlingonit,asasortof"thisis
whatIstandfor"statement,andalsotoremindhimyetanotherannoyingargumentwascomingrightastheclass
began.Ialsoansweredtherelatedquestionontheexamwith"Somepeoplebelieve..."kindofphrasing,basically
makingitclearthatIknewthematerial,butstilldisagreedwithit.
Being12ismoreaboutlackingknowledgeandperspectivethanbeingstupid.Onecanstillfindoutwaystotroll
yourteacherandevenprepareforitbeforehand.
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[] BJ2K 1209points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SomepeoplewerebitchingatBillMaherforsayinghowridiculousthesituationwasfromthebeginning.Igivehimpropsfornot
buyingintoit.
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[] goodknee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThepartwherehemadeitsoundlikeallMuslimswanttoblowshituppissedmeoff,butI'llbedamnedifthatthingdidn'tlook
likeatvbomb.
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[] hurtcobaine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theonlyreasonhetookthatstanceisthathelovestoplayupthe"Islamisaviolentreligion"angle
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Isitnot?
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[] ashtronauts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notanymorethananyotherreligion.
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DoesBillMaherarguethatitis?Idon'tbelievehedoes.
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[] fuckujoffery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillMaherconstantlyarguesthatIslamisaviolentreligion.
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Becauseitis?
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[] ashtronauts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maherissuchanislamophobeofcoursehedoesn't.
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You'reanidiot.
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[] dushbagery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whatismindblowingtome,andwhatmakesthisamorebizarresituationthanmanypeoplerealize,isthereactionafterward.
Microsoft,MIT,Facebook,NASA,andthefuckingPresidentoftheUSall(inretrospect)embarrassedthemselvesbyjumping
tothiskidsdefenseandshoweringhimwithgiftsandinviteswithoutknowingthefactsofthecase.Intime,peoplewillrealize
thattheSchooldistrictmerelyfollowedprotocol,andmediafueledhysteriaisabigproblem
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[] ThreeHourRiverMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dawkinstoo.IlikeRichard,butevenIhadthethought"OhRichard..."whenhewentoffonthiskid.Hewasrightallalong.
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Oh,BillMaher.Whyareyousofuckinghardtolike.
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[] 17Hongo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausehe'sanass.Acolossalass.
Unfortunatelyhe'sacolossalassthathappenstobecorrectquitealot.
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Iagreewithalmosteverythinghesays,buthe'ssuchadickaboutit.Hegivespeoplewiththesameviewsasmeabad
wrap.
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He'stheDemocratversionofRushLimbaugh.
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Here'showtheshowgoes:
Thesetting:billMaher'sdesk.Twoliberalguests(aandb)andonenotsoliberalguest(c)
Thedialogue:
Bill:"Idon'tx"
A:"yes."
B:"billyou'resoright"
C:"Idisagree.Ithinkweshouldlookatthingsdifferently"
A&B:"noyou'restupid"
Bill:"ursodumb4real"thenabadjoke
Thenthecrowdgoesfuckinginsaneandthenext20minutesoftheshowisbillwaitingforthecrowdtoquitclapping.
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Becausehe'sanobnoxioussnobwho'sjustasuninformedandtoxictothepoliticaldebateashalfthepeopleonFox
whohedespises.
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Whyareyounotusingaquestionmarkwhenaskingaquestion?
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[] papshmere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Really?IfuckingloveBillMaherandfindthatwehavealotincommon.
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[] CapitanCrotch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Hisface,it'sbad.
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[] Merlord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'safuckingloon
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How?Listentotheguytalkfor5minutes.I'dcallmyselfaprettyleftleaningleftieandtheguyisabsolutelyinsufferable.
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Becausehe'sanelitistprickthatrefusestoevenlistentotheotherside.Heberatespeopleandconsidershimselfbetter
thananyonethatdisagreeswithhim.
Hemighthaveagoodpointnowandthen,buthe'safuckingasshole.
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[] dogstarchampion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,ifyoueverwatchhisshow,hedoeslettheothersidespeak,butthey'retheoneswhooftencan'tdefend
theirpositionswhenitcomestotheharderquestions.
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[] timstinytiger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah.Imean,IagreewithMOSTofthestuffhesays...butgoddamnifIdon'tjustwanttopunchhisfaceeverytimehe
talks.
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[] GypsyPunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seemslikabletome
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[] king_of_da_burgerz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalsofindithardtolikeBillMaher
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[] pear1jamten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,BillMaher.Whyareyousofuckinghardtolike.
Ithinkpeoplehatehimjusttohatehim,hehasalotofwellthoughtoutopinionsandIfuckingthinkherocks.
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Iagreewiththis.Peoplecallinghim"smug"anda"douche"seemtoignorethatheoftengivesgoodreasoning
behindthestanceshetakes.EvenIhadtosidewithhimabouttheclockkid.Hewasright,thekiddidn'tinvent
anything...Andconsideringtheagewelivein,theschoolverifyingitwasn'tabombisn't"racist"inandofitself.
IhavetimeswhereIdon'tfeelasextremeashedoesaboutcertainthings,butIcanrespecthisviewssincehe
backsthemwithreasoning.
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[] fifthredditincarnati undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IrememberthetimeMahercameoutagainstwomenbreastfeedinginpublic,callingthemattentionwhores.
Thiswas,Ithink,backin2008orso?That'sthedayIbegantoconsiderhimanunredeemableimbecile.
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Unredeemablebecauseofa2008commentonbreastfeedinginpublic...He'ssaysplentyofthings
thatcanbeargued,that'shardlyunforgivable.PublicbreastfeedingissomethingIfindonlyso
acceptablemyself.Idon'tcareifababyneedstofeed,butIalsodon'tneedtoseeitstandinginthe
checkoutline.
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Becausehe'sthequintessential"LiberalDouche".
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[] Jahonay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Formeit'shisstanceonvaccines.
Iagreewithhimonreligion,Iagreewithhimbeingoffensive,andshruggingoffthehurtfeelingsofotherpeople.ButI
can'tagreethatvaccinesarebadforyou.
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[] Morsexier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotwhathesaid.
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[] ShallowBasketcase undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EvenwhenIagreewithhimhe'sstilladouchebox.
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[] Ranman87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausehe'sanasshole.
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[] imacrazysloth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sspentthelast15yearsbitterthathewasn'tJonStewart.
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Meow!
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[] stephen_huntley undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kittylikestoscratch!
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[] Crazzizle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostlybecauseheisagiantfuckingcunt.EvenwhenIagreewithhim,Idislikehim.
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[] _Dans_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lowhangingfruit?Billmaherhasmadeacareeroutofpickingrottenfruitoffthegroundandthrowingthematstraw
men.
YukYukWhoopWhoopgoesthestudioaudience,whoironicallylovesnothingmorethantohatesomething...
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Becausehe'sthedefinitionofanEdgtheist.
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It'sthe"I'manassholeandproudofit"schtickI'dwager...
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Mostlybecauseofhispersonality.
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[] _RE_TARDIS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heisaninsufferablepompouscunt.
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[] tommy_tom_tom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Possiblyalittlebitofwhoheisasaperson
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[] El_Gran_Redditor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndhisconstantIslomophobia.Justbecauseyouwerebornhalfoldmanandhalfuncookedturkeywhocan't
growfacialhairdoesn'tmeanyou'renotthetypeofr/athiesmneckbeardwhothinksit'soktoberacisttoward
Muslimsbecauseyou're"enlightened."
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[] underwriter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ohyeah,that'sit
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Ialsothinkit'spartiallyhispunchableface.
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[] Allieareyouokay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alittlebecauseofhisskincolor.
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[] Marzman315 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IagreewithalmosteverywordMaherdaysandIstillthinkhe'safuckingdick
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[] StarshipAI undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Histasteinwomenisappalling.
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[] JohnMakesHisMove undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andallhisjokesareobviouslywrittenandhiscomedictimingisoff.Andhowdidheagelike40yearsinthepast
5?
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Andpunchableface
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[] Psilocybernoms undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itsoneofthose"sure,hestotallyright,butsmugasfuck"situations
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[] DoctorDario undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'salsoprettyantivaccines.
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[] ajpearson88 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhisbigasshead
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[] trakam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asfarassmugcuntswithpunchablefacesgoesheratesa9ontheHannityscale.
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[] Kakarot_faps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'stheepidemyofyournotwrongyou'rejustanasshole
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[] ositola undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*epitome.....IswearI'mfunatparties
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[] kami232 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'renotwrongyou'rejustagrammarnazi.
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Notgrammar.Spelling.
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whichisevenmorespeciousthangrammarasaconcept
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Ilikehisshow,Ilikehisforumsusually,Ilikehowhedoesinvitepeoplewhovehementlydisagreewithhim
becauseitmakesforanentertainingwatch.Ilikethingshedoes,butIreallyhatesomeothershit.ButIdon'thate
him,justsomeofhisideasandinconsistencies.
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[] Kyddeath undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heisantigunthentalksabouthowheownsagun.Heisthatweirdhypocritefriendyoulikebutdonotlike
atthesametime
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Ithinkhe'sproguncontrol,notantigun.Thereisadifference.It'slikebeingprochoiceisn'tantifetus.
ThatsaidIcouldbewrong,IstoppedtakinghispersonalbeliefsseriouslyonceIfoundouthewas
antivax.IlikesomeofhisstandupandI'llwatchtheshowsometimesbutIdon'ttakemostofwhathe
saysseriously.
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[] workaway5 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
onceIfoundouthewasantivax
he'snotthough.wheredidyouhearthisfrom?
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[] goGlenCoco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkhe'santivax.He'snoJennyMcCarthy.IthinkhequestionsvaccinesmorethanI'd
likehimtobutintheendhestillthinkspeopleshouldstillgettheirkidsvaccinated.He's
definitelyagainstthefluvaccine,though,whichismoreforgivablethanbeingagainstMMR,
TDaP,etc.
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[] downfortheunity undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'snotantivax.Heonlyquestionsthevaccinationschedulefornewborns.
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[] TheVegetableSalad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahhisstanceonmedicineingeneralkindaruinedhimforme.
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[] PurpleIsForKings undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwatchedoneepisodeofBillMahersshowandhatedit.Billkeptyellingattheguestforavoidingandtalking
aroundthequestion(whichtobefairhewas),thenwhentheguestaskedhimaquestion,hefuckingtalked
arounditandnevergaveananswer.Itwasawful
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Hisshowishardtowatch.It'sinterestingmaybe10%ofthetimeandannoyingtheother90%.
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[] kinetogen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ok,soit'snotjustmethen.Hisshowisjusthardtowatch,evenwhenhe'slambastingafundie.
Itcansometimesgetunrelentinglybrutalanduncomfortable.
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Youguysarejustbeingoveranalytical.It'safunliberaltalkshow.Hegoesabit
overboardattimesbutwhatever.Unrelentinglybrutalanduncomfortable?That'sabit
muchdon'tyouthink.
MayIaskwhattalkshowsyoudopreference?
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[] yomama629 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cuzheisleftistscum
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[] brainsapper undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HappenedwithDr.Dawkinsaswell.
OneofthefewmomentsinmylifeIagreedwiththosetwo.
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Theyaren'tusuallywrong,they'rejustdicksinhowtheysaythings.
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What?I'veneverseensomeonemorepolitethanDawkins.
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See,Idon'tgetthat.Dawkinsisverycordialandverypoliteuntilsomeoneelsedoessomethingstupidand
Dawkinshasnoproblemtellingthem.HesitsthereforanhourandtriestoexplainfossilstoWendyWrightandhe
hasthepoiseofafuckingsaintinthewholehour.Gowatchit.Seeifyoudon'tloseyourshitatthewoman.
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[] LittleSandor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireallyjustthinkpeoplemisinterprethisdisagreementwithbeingdeliberatelyoffensive.Andtheythen
overlaythatontohispersonality.Whenreallymostofthetimeheissoftspokenandcordial.
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[] quiteintriguing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idisagree.WithDawkinsinparticularitsonlybecausehe'sdiscussingtopicsthatpeopleareparticularlytouchy
about.Hisviewsarelargelycountertowhatmostpeoplethink.He'snotactuallyparticularlyrudeatall,hejust
tellsthingliketheyareonasubjectpeopleparticularlydon'twanttohearitanddoesn'tbothersugarcoatingor
dancingaroundwhathe'stryingtosay.
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[] servohahn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,whenyoulistentowhatDawkinssaysversuswhatpeoplesayhesays,he'slikethisultrapolite
articulateguy.Hejustdoesn'ttaketheperspectiveofpeoplethathethinksarewrong.
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[] deltopia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
he'sdiscussingtopicsthatpeopleareparticularlytouchyabout.Hisviewsarelargelycountertowhat
mostpeoplethink.
So,basically,he'satroll?
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Ascontroversialasitseemstohavebecome,manypeoplewouldliketoseereligionmoreopenly
discussedandcritiquedratherthanrelegatedtotheuntouchablezoneofpersonaltraits.
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Noatrollissomeonewhohasnoothermotivebuttoupsetoraggravatesomeoneelse.Dawkinsis
discussingtopicsthataretraditionallyconsideredtaboobecauseheisbothinterestedandconcerned
aboutthem.Heisn'tinterestedinupsettingpeople,heisinterestedinreligiousandnaturalhistory
discussion,andsocialdiscourse.
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[] themasterofallthngs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No.
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[] AalewisX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ialsohatehisvoice
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He'snotthemostpleasantseemingfellow.ButIdon'tthinkhe'sactuallyadick,he'sjustridiculously
blatantaboutsomethingpeopleholddear.
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Idon'tseehowheisn'tpleasant?Heisprettyrelaxedmostofthetime.Eveninhisinterview
withWendyWrightheisamazinglyreservedandtolerant.HegivestheDalaiLamaarunforhis
moneythere.
Theonlytimehegetsirritatediswhensomeoneelseisblatantlylyingorbeingrepugnant
themselves.
Watchthisvideowherehereadssomeofhishatemail,tellmewhoispleasentandwhoisn't?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuowNcuGsc
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[] AShittyEngineer 312points
Youmightevensaythewholeplanranlikeclockwork...
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Let'swaitforthesettlementcheck.
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[] Fiddler_by_the_pond undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stopit
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[] ImReallyGrey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...LikeClockwork
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[] NEEDLE_UP_YOUR_PENIS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmight,butyouwon't.
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[] Alkura undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
http://microsoftnews.com/wpcontent/uploads/2015/09/satya.jpgjudgingbythisitdid.EVERYONELETSTHROWPRAT
HIMTOSHOWHOWMUCHOFAGOODPERSONIAM~Zuckerberg
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[] EmperorHakan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damn.IwishIwasyoungandbrownenoughpullthisoff.
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[] jb2386 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckme.
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AndI'vebeensavingfor3monthstobuyanewcorei7...FFS.
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[] folltrood 1points
Justtakeyourupvoteand...ummm...
explosivediarrhea
Sorry,I'mbadwithpuns
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[] Murdathon3000 13points
Youkindofbombedthatone.
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[] Ajcard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likeexplosivediarrhea:boom
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[] Cambodio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hesenttherocketacrossthemaponthatone.Ihadvisiononit
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[] _plinus_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknow,right?Itwasreally,uh,shitty?
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Itwaspunny
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[] president_of_derp 16points
OPdidntsayheinventedanything.Weallknowaboutthewalmartclockthing.
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[] DrewsephVladmir 2846points
Also,afterbeingtoldbythefirstteachertonotshowittoanyoneelse,hegoesoutofhiswaytodrawasmuchattentiontoitas
possibleuntilsomeonetookthebait
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Icompletelybelievetheymilkedtheracecard.Damngeniuses.SometimesIwishIhadnomorals....andthatIwasaminority.
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Canyousourcethis?Ihearitallovertheplacebutcouldn'tfindasourcewhenIwentlooking
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[] w3gg001 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1. Wereyouthere?
2. Didyoufolloweveryteachersinstructiontotheletterallthetime?
3. Wouldtheschoolhaveareasontodownplaytheirroleinthiswholestory?
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[] SkyPork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow.TherewasalotmoretothisstorythatcametolightafterIlostinterest.Oddly,itonlymakesmelesssympatheticforthe
kidIstilldon'tthinkanyhigherofTexaseducation.
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[] tones2013 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
supposedlythepolicewerecalledformakingabombhoax,ratherthanabombthreat.
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Thefunnythingisthatnoonetookthebait.Hewenttolike4classeswherenooftheteachersgaveashitandthenheset
andalarmforittogooffinthemiddleofclass.
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[] stromm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottomentionthathehadbeenintroublemanytimesbeforeinschool.
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[] _kt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sAKID!
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[] DIGGYRULES undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wait.Seriousquestion.WhendidRedditstopthinkingthiskidwassomesortofmessiah?Whenthefamilysued?Whenthey
decidedtomovetoQatar?When?LastIheardofthiskidhewasmeetingthePresidentandtherewerethousandsof
commentsbashingtheschool,thecops,andallofAmericaforprofilingamiddleeasternkid.
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Thepublicmoodchangedwhentheyrealizedthathedidn'tbuildtheclockfromscratch,asearlyreportshadledpeople
tobelieve.
Theproblemisthatit'sjustpartofthestory.It'sstillallegedthathewasinterrogatedillegallyandapparently
aggressivelybyschoolofficialsandpoliceofficers,andnooneisdisputingthat.
Andit'salesserpointtomost,buttomeit'sstillsignificanttometheschool,includingtheadministrationandat
leastoneteacherappeartohaveactivelyworkedagainstarelativelyharmlessstudent'spersonalinterestinSTEM.It's
notoutrightillegalforaschooltoactivelyworkagainstencouragingastudent'spersonalinterestinpositivethings,but
it'sbasicallythedirectoppositeofwhatwe'dwantschoolstodo.
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[] whenhaiirymetsally undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somebodynoticedthathewasn'twhite.
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[] Daffan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IIRCItwaslikeaweekafteratmost,whensomeoneactuallyboughtthethesameclockandshowedhowhediditin5
seconds,andtheCPUsolderingdebacle.
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Assoonasthepicturescameout.
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[] itisthebrandnewjames undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thingsweremixedprettysoonafter,thoughthehivemindchangedoverallaftermoredatacameout.
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[] HLAW8S undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nokidding.Icalledthekidanattentionseekerandwascalledallkindsofnames.
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Didnthissistergetsuspendedforabombthreatafewyearsbefore?
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[] Conor_S undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Theotherpointsmakesensefromaconspiracystandpointbutthisonecaneasilybeexplainedbyheboybeingveryproudof
himselfandwantingtoshowitoff.Hell,ifIhadjustbuiltaclockwhenIwas14,Iwouldprobablydosomethingsimilaron
accountofbeinganobnoxious14yearold.
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[] TrialsAndTribbles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Healsosetthealarmtogooffinthemiddleofclass.
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Itwasn'tuntilhesetitinclassandtheteacherthat"Tookthebait"I.E.toldhimtocuttheshitwasunderazerotolerance
policyandsenthimtotheprincipal(Nopolice)whowasalsounderthesamepolicyandhadtocallthepoliceatthattime.Not
onepersonactuallythoughtitwasabomb.
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[] cmbsfm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasn'tarrestedbecausetheythoughtitwasreal,theyarrestedhimbecausehemadeafakeone.
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Iknow.It'sjustfrustratingtoseethemediaspinitas"Kidbringsinscienceproject,racistschoolcallsbomb
threat!"whenthestoryfirstbroke.
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[] cmbsfm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,thiswholethingisamess.Hopethekiddoesntwinthelawsuit.
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[] EverGreenPLO 12points
Yeahwealllistenedtoourteachersaskids
EspeciallywhensomeonetoldmenottodosomethingImadesureIdidnotdothat
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[] nderhjs 1573points
Okay,Icanseetheabovepoints,buthowdoesthisprovethecaseeitherway?Ithinkabouthalfoftheteenagerseverwilldo
exactlywhattheteachertellsthemnottodo,because,youknow,teenagers.
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[] Kinbaku_enthusiast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'snotforgetthathissisterwassuspendedfromadifferentschoolin2009forafakebombthreat.
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I'mateenager,andnotreallya"goodytwoshoes,"butifateachertellsmetodosomething,I'lldoit.It'sveryrarethat
I'veseensomeoneblatantlyrefusetodosomethingateachertellsthemtodo.Ifithappensit'susuallyoneofthosekids
whoeveryoneknowsisgoingnowhereinlife.
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[] Eipa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'renotonly"ateenager"butobviouslyallteenagers!
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No...butIjusttoldyouhowitusuallygoesdown.Almosteveryonedoeswhatateachersays.It'sveryrare
andusuallyveryentertainingwhensomeonedefiesateacher.
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Hegotstuffthatmaderedditjealous.Ifyoulookatthefacts,he'saHitler.Confirmed.
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[] Eipa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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It'snotevenaconspiracy:he'sHitlerandhisgrandmotherwasinfactStalin!
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Exactly.Isawa15yearoldkidgoing,"heh,let'sseewhathappens"andthenateacheroverreacting,andthenapolice
departmentwaaaayyyoverreactingaspertheusual.
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[] nderhjs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'salmosttheexactadvicethatRossMatthews(fromChelsealatelyandhisownpodcast)gaveme,expecta
lossatyourownendforyearsandneversaynotoadauntingtask,Ijusthaveyettoevenhavinghalfatoebe
nearsomeonewhowillletmein.ButIJUSTstartedmyjourney,sohopefullywithenoughnetworkingIcanbegin.
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Ithinkyourepliedtothewrongperson
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[] nderhjs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shoot!!!Thankyou!Meantforanotherthread!Stupidalienapp
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Noproblemdude.Happenstothebestofus.
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[] zeravlanauj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Helookslikeatimidkid,andthosequietkidsusuallyfollowtheirteacher'sdirectionstopreventattention.Notall
teenagersarerebelliousjustbecausethey'reteens.
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[] Samiam23322 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thewholepointthatthepoliceinvestigatorsmusthaveconsiderediswhywouldyouputallthistechintoaclockwhen
youcanputonetogetherwithmuchsimplerparts.Thismustbepartoftheirbombinvestigatingprocedures.Ifthekid
andhisfatherknewthoseprocedures,theycouldhaveputthistogetherjusttotakeadvantageofthesituationtoforce
thepolicetoarrestthem,andinturngetpublicityandshowthatthepolicedonotusecommonsensetorespondtosuch
astrangesituationandmadethemlookbadwhentheywerejustrespondingbythebook.
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[] hightiedye undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyhiredaPRcompany?
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[] FittyTheBone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'sfunnythatpeoplearemoreconvincedofsomesinisterplotbyhisfathertomanipulatethewholeoftheU.S.
mediamachine,teachers,police,andfederalgovernmentthansay...
abunchofTexanbureaucratshorriblymishandlingasituationandthiskid'sfamilytakingfulladvantageofsaidfuckup
afterthefact.
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Howdidtheyhorriblymishandlethesituation?
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[] patrick684 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
peoplewhotrollforlawsuitsisanactualthing.ThissmellsofitIMO.
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Ithinkit'ssadthatyouarestupidenoughtobelievethat.
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Believewhat?Theinefficiencyoflocalgovernmentandapoliticalclimatethatisn'texactlyfriendlyto
Muslims?
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Idon'tbelieveanything,butoneofthesescenariosismuchmorereasonablethantheother.
Soyoudobelievesomething,namelythatoneismuchmorereasonablethantheother,and
furthermoreyoualreadybelievewhichonethatis.
Socutthebullshit.
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WhatIbelieveisthat,onceafuckinggain,thesleuthsoftheinternetaretakingasituationand
rippingitapartafterthefact,ignoringthesimplestanswerforanoverlycomplicatedonethat
doesn'taddup.
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Becausehissisterdidthesamefuckingthing3yearsearlierlol
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[] LouisvilleXV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Huh?
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Doyouhaveanyevidenceforthatclaim,I'dliketoseeit
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http://www.breitbart.com/biggovernment/2015/09/23/ahmedssisteradmitsschoolsuspensionalleged
bombthreat3yearsearlier/
http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/09/muslimclockkidssisterwaspreviouslysuspendedfor/
http://libertynews.com/2015/09/hmm18yearoldsisterofhoaxclockbombboyahmedmohamedwas
suspendedfrommiddleschoolformakingbombthreat/
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[] athennna undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdidshedo?
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Forthebombthing..shedidittoo
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Source?I'dlovetoreadthat.
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http://www.breitbart.com/biggovernment/2015/09/23/ahmedssisteradmitsschoolsuspension
allegedbombthreat3yearsearlier/
http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/09/muslimclockkidssisterwaspreviouslysuspendedfor/
http://libertynews.com/2015/09/hmm18yearoldsisterofhoaxclockbombboyahmed
mohamedwassuspendedfrommiddleschoolformakingbombthreat/
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Hewasquestionedbythecopsbecausetheadministrationbelievedhewasintentionallytryingtopretendthatitwasa
bomb,evenafterhisteachersaidshewasuncomfortable,thoughtitlookedlikeabomb,etc.Sobasicallyhewas
questionedforanentirelylegitimatereasonbasedonhowhewasactingtowardshisteacherandtheschoolofficials.
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ThisisthepartIdon'tunderstand.
(a)thepolicethemselvesagreethatthiskidnevereverclaimeditwasabomb.
(b)Infactthepolicewereannoyedbyhowhekeptrepeating"it'sjustaclock,it'sjustaclock"tothem(thepolice
wishedfor'morecontext',buttheimportantthingis:theyagreehekeptoninsistingitwasaclockatalltimes.)
(c)Histeachersalsoagreethathekeptsayingitwasaclock.Nobodyintheentireschooleverheardhimclaimit
wasabombormakeanythreats.
Giventheabove,howonearthisthisabombHOAX?Ahoaxrequiresthedeceptionofclaimingthisissomething
otherthanaclock.WhichweknowAhmeddidtheoppositeof.
Thefactthathisteachersandthepoliceconsideredhisbehaviortobesuspicioustellsustheyarebigoted.That
theyconsideraMuslimwithanelectroniccontraptiontobeanautomatic,inherentthreatofbomb.Awhitegirl
couldhavedoneexactlywhatAhmeddidandneverbeenconsideredsuspiciousinamillionyears.
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Nosarcasm,nofacetiousnessfrommehere,butthiscommentistrue.Theschooloverreacted.Whenthe
kidsaidthatitwasaclock,andtheofficersconfirmedthattherewasnothingexplosive,theschoolshould
haveletthematterdropALTHOUGHifanyschoolofficialswerestillworried(likeifhepickedupsome
explosivemateriallaterandconnectedit),theyshouldhavekeptthedevicethengivenitbacktohimatthe
endofthedaywithawarningnottobringsomethinglikethatbackagain.Therewasliterallynoreasonto
havehimarrested.
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ItmakesmesickthatRedditthinksthefamilymovingtoQatarispartofaplot,orthatakidplayingup
alacklustertechexperimentasan"invention"makeshisentirefamilyintopathologicalliarsthat
deserveanyillegaltreatmentaschoolandpolicedepartmentfeellikedispensing.
Thefamilyexperiencedracismatthehandsoftheirschoolandlocalpolice,totheextentthatthe
leaderofthefreeworldchosetogetinvolved.Thiscreatedaperfectsituationfortheextremerightto
showerdownmorehate.ThefamilylivedinthecitythatGlenBeckbroadcastsfrom,andhemadethe
storyabigdealonhisshow.
Andthensomeonecomesalongandsays,"ifyou'reinterestedinmovingforfreetoacountrywhere
youwon'tgetalifetimeofdeaththreatsbecauseyoubecameanaccidentalpublicfigurebecauseyou
wereabrownkidinterestedintechnology...wecandothat."
Well,whatthehelliskeepingyoutiedtoaracisttowninTexasinthatsituation?Yeah,I'dliketo
continuemystudiesonscholarshipinrichschoolswithpeoplewhodon'thateme,andkeepmyfamily
safefromharmandalifetimeofdeaththreatsandmistreatment.That'saprettyeasychoice.
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BecauseofRedditjealousy.
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[] Ghost51 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ShitifateachertoldmetoputitawayandactuallymeantitIwould.
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Especiallya"smart"kid.
Howmanygeekykidsdoyouknowinschoolwhowoulddisobeytheteacherjusttoshowoffaclocknoonecares
about?
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[] nipplynips 1199points
HepluggeditintothewallandtimeditforEnglishclass.Hedoesn'tseemlikeaclassclownthatwoulddothatfora
laugh.I'msurenotasinglekidlaughedwhenitwhenoff.
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Whatkindofbombwouldevenhaveapowercord?
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[] viktor_rs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelieveyou,butI'mgoingtohavetobeanannoyingfuckandaskforasource.
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[] asimplescribe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probablytryingtopisstheteacheroff.Everyonestandinguptosharpentheirpencilsatthesametimeisn'tfunny
either,buttheteacher'sreactiontoitmightbe.
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[] sanemaniac undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedoesn'tseemlikeaclassclownthatwoulddothatforalaugh.
basedonyourextensivefirsthandexperienceI'msure.
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[] rbloyalty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewaspreviouslysuspendedforplayingaprankwithsomedevicehemade.Hisreputationwastinkeringwith
electronics.
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Hedoesn'tseemlikeaclassclown
Wellnowyou'rejustpullingassumptionsoutofthinair
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[] noxnsol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buthedoesseemlikeakidwho'smanipulativeandaliar?
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Ijustclicked.Iwasonboardwiththistheorybutapartfromthefakeinventioncouldn'ttieit100%toaprank,but
HEHADTOPLUGTHEFUCKINGTHINGIN.Whatalittlewanker.
Ihopetheydon'tsettleandtryprovethiscasetheory.I'llbeonthelegalteam.
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[] devotedpupa undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhedoesn'tseemlikeaclassclownhowdoesheseemlileapolticialgenius?Icanbarelybuythatheissmart.
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[] Brasstower undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nobodyeversaidhewas,buthisdadisamanipulativeassholewhohasusedhiskidsinthiswaybefore,
possiblyinanattempttoelicitsympathyfortheMuslimcommunityinIrvingsothathecouldthenpushfor
Sharialaw.KeepinmindI'monlygettingthisfromotherRedditcommentssoIcan'tvouchfortheveracity
ofthatstatement.
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Youhaveanylinksforhisfather?I'mcurioustolookupthisDbag.
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ThisisprettygoodfromwhatI'veread.
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ThisissomethingthatseemstogooverlookedandIapplaudyouforpickinguponit.
Theclockwasn'tbatterypoweredasmostpeopleassume.Ifyoulookatthepictureofitit'swallpowered,which
meansafterbeingtoldnottoshowittoanyonehetookitintoEnglishclass..pluggeditinthewallandsetthe
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timebecauseifhe"inventedit"thetimedidn'tcomealreadyset,andIdon'tbuythathedidn'tknowhowtoturnit
off.Idon'tassumeforasecondheinventedsomethingascomplexasaclockanddoesn'tknowhowtouseit.
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[] are_you_sure_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sorry,mostdigitalalarmclocks,includingthisone,havea9Vbatterybackupforwhenthepowergoesout.
TakeanotherlookattheAPphotoofthe"bomb"andyouwillseethe9Vtag.
Mysuspicionishewouldratheropentheclockandshowitworkignthanhavetofumblewiththeplug.The
clockcanfunctionwitheither,ifIweregoigntoshowofftomyscienceteacher,Iwouldgeta9vbatteryand
haveitpluggedin,walkupandopenthecasetoshowitworking.
Hewastoldtoputitawayandnotshowagain.Ifthebatterywasstillpluggedinandhesimplyputinhis
backpack,theninthenextclassitwasreportedto"Beeb"anddrewtheattentionoftheteacher.Itis
plausiblehehadabatteryandforgot.
Thatteachercalledthecops,whowouldtakehtefirstactionofremovingthebatteryandthatwouldbewhy
itisnotintheAPpicture.
Itisplausiblethatayoungteenagerisnotasbadashisfamily,didnotplugtheclockinusingpowercordor
"showoff"intheideaofthreateningpeople,ashewoulddoitinthehalltothebulliesthatnodoubtpickon
him(amuslimkid).NoheshowedtheSciteacher,andtheotherteacherhearditgooffandaskedtoseeit.
Afterthepresswentoverboardwiththestory,hisshittyfathertookandranwithit.Howmuchsaydoesa
teenageboyhavetoafundamentalistfather?
Isthekidanengineer?no
Isheaterroristinthemakingandmadeitonpurposetoscare?notlikely.
Didhisdadrunwiththemediaattention?YES!
Doesthiskiddeserveallthesefreethings?NO!
Doesthiskiddeservebigotedracism?NO!
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[] Kinbaku_enthusiast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youthinkitwasjustsomeopportunismlastminutethingbyhisdad,buthissisterwassuspended
fromadifferentschoolin2009forafakebombthreat.
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Doesthiskiddeserveallthesefreethings?NO!
Doesthiskiddeservebigotedracism?NO!
Thisisthepartwhereyoumessedup:theONEANDONLYreasonthiskidwasgivenallthose
freebiesisbecauseheexperiencedbigotedracism,sohedidinfact"deserve"thefreebies.(Ihope
youagreethathedidexperiencebigotedracism.)
Thefreebieswereneverevereverarewardforhowawesomethiskidwasatscienceorengineering.
It'snotlikethecountrycollectivelywent"Thisblindinggeniuschildisstuckinaschoolunableto
recognizehisblindinggenius!Quick,givehimfreebiessowecannurturehisgenius!"Thatisnotwhat
happened.
No,itwasallabout"ThisbuddingSTEMenthusiastisstuckinaschoolthatperpetratedbigoted
racismonhimjustbecauseheismuslim!Quick,givehimfreebiessowecanshowhimandallother
muslimkidsthatthetechindustryandAmericaarelessbigotedandmorewelcomingthanhisschool!"
Hegotallthosefreebiesbecausehesufferedthekindofbigotrythatnobodyshouldhaveto.Not
becauseanybodythoughthewasaprodigy.
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[] DisproveRainbowDash undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisbuddingSTEMenthusiastisstuckinaschoolthatperpetratedbigotedracismonhim
justbecauseheismuslim!Quick,givehimfreebiessowecanshowhimandallother
muslimkidsthatthetechindustryandAmericaarelessbigotedandmorewelcomingthan
hisschool!
ipartiallyagreewithyourstatement,butithinkthemotivesofMicrosoft,Google,andMITto
giveAhmedhandoutsstrayabitfromwhatyousay.followingthewholeincident,therewasa
bandwagoninthetechindustrytogivehandoutsasawaytogetpositivemediaattention,not
becausetheyfeltbadforhim.empathymaybeapartofthereasontheygaveAhmedsupplies,
butisuspectthemainreasonisPR.
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[] labiaflutteringby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ifhe"inventedit"thetimedidn'tcomealreadyset
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butheboughtitfromthestore
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Hencethe"inventedit"inquotations...heclaimshe"inventedit"..whichthemaincontentionofwhich
shouldbecreatingsomethingisnotinventingit.Letalonethefacthedidn'tmakeit,hejustputitin
anotherbox.
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[] Warpalliw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HencetheQuotationmarksaround"inventedit"
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[] ManWhoKilledHitler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'tthatreducesuspicion?Ican'tthinkthatmanybombsneedmainspower.
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Nobodyeveractuallythoughtitwasabomb.Hewasarrestedundersuspicionofcreatingahoax
bomb.Whetherornotyouagreewiththatisadifferentpointentirelybutreallyitwasneverabout
confusionoftheclockforabomb
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Sonowriddlemethis:howwasitahoaxbombwhenHENEVERTRIEDTOHOAXANYONE?
Heneverevenonceclaimeditwasabomb.Hesaidoverandoveragainthatitwasaclockto
theextentthatthepolicesaidtheywereannoyedbyhowhejustkeptsaying"it'saclock,it'sa
clock."
Sowhatthefuck?Where'sthehoax?
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[] Da_Fish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverconsideredtheplugginginpart.ImeanIagreewiththeOPthatitwasallprobablyastuntbutIjust
assumedthatitwasbatterypowered.Pluggingitinduringclassandsettingittogooffraiseittoamoreobvious
level.
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[] AAAAAAAHHH 12points
Areyoufriendswithhim?Howdoyouknowwhatheseemslike?
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Bylookingathimandwhattheteachershavesaidabouthim.Halfthepointthemediamadewasthathe
wasjustanicenerdyguy.Mostnicenerdyguysarenotclassclowns.
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Dude.PeoplesayIamnice,andI'mrelativelynerdy.Iwasdefinitelyaclassclown.Whenyou're
smarterandmorecleverthanothers,youliketopokefunatthemwhilekeepingyourselfmorelike
otherpeople(becauseotherwiseyou'djustbethatsmartguy).
I'mnotsayingthathewasorwasnotaclassclown...justthatyourassertionisnotcorrect,and
definitelywithinthislastdecadeortwo.
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[] toasterman3000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowhowoldyouare,butinthisdayandageyoucanveryeasilybebothanerdanda
prankster.
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Canyou?Sure.Butwashe?Idontthinkso.Likeisaidthemediaconcentratedheavilyonhow
hewasagreatstudent.
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Ipersonallydontbelievethathedidittosuetheschoolorw.ebutidoubthesetthealarmasa
prank
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[] jfoust2 2points
Becausetheythoughtitwasanalarmclock.
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[] Equinoxbo3 1118points
HeyguysguysIgotaprank....takesoutgrenade
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[] kactusotp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aguyinmyenglishclass(Australia1996)didthis.Hegotanarmysupplysurplustestinggrenade(Bright
bluegrenade,withnoexplosiveinit)andpainteditbacktoolivegreen.
Walkeduptotheteacher,placeditonthedeskandpulledthepinwhileholdingthelever.Teachertoldhim
toputitbackinhisbagandnottodothatagain.
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[] Heritodos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ITSJUSTAPRANKBRO
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[] A_darksoul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
throwsthemeverywhere
turnsoutthey'rerocks
makegetawayonimaginarymotorcycle
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[] DrBillios undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LOLit'saPRANKbros!Nowgivememoney,school!
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[] Dolebag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude!It'sjustaprank!
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[] breakerbreaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youjokebutmyneighboractuallywantedtodothis.Iboughtoneofthosehollowedoutgrenadesfroman
armysupplystorewhenIwasinhighschool.Myneighborfriendwasoverandisinthesamegrade.Hesaw
itandbeggedmetolethimborrowitforthenextday.Hethoughit'dbefunnytopullthepinandthrowit
downthehall.
Iofcourserefusedandthinkingbackonit,hekindaowesmebigforkeepinghimfromgettingexpelledand
doingjailtime.
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[] BallisticClown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sjustaprank,bro!
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[] battlerobot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CALMDOWNITSJUSTAPRANKBRO
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[] coolbird1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somekidactuallybroughtareplicagrenadetomymiddleschoolandtheschoolwentonlockdown.
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[] FawfulsFury undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Relaxbro,it'sjustaprank!!!
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[] scruffykidherder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saprankbro!GONESEXUAAAAALLLLL
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[] BRACEYOURSELF undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CHILLBROITSJUSTAPRANK
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[] pehvbot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenIwasinhighschoolIliterallytookahandgrenadetoschool.Itwasadummygrenadeusedfor
training(i.e.a'real'grenadewithoutexplosivesorlivedetonator).Icanonlyimaginethebrickagethatwould
beshattodayforsomethingthatwasseenasaharmlesscuriosityatthetime.
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Youshould'veopenedthedoortoyourclass,peekedyourheadin,said"higuys"thenquicklythrowit
intheroomandshutthedoor...
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[] imkindathere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"WOAHWOAHDUDECHILLOUTIT'SAPRANK,IT'SAPRANK
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Meandafriendactuallydidthatinmiddleschool(itwasobviouslyadud).Teacherjustrolledhereyes,
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Early1990s
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GRENADEPRANK![GONESEXUAL][GONEWILD][BROJOB(?)]
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Fooledyou!It'sjustarockIputinawaffleirontogettheridges.
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Ruffleshaveridges!
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"Coolrock,/u/Batmanstarwars1,wanttobringittotheWhiteHouse?"
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Thatisafuckinghotwaffleiron.
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AMuslimmadethatwaffleiron
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Wellyeah,whatgoodisacoldwaffleiron?
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Idon'tfuckaround.Tookonewaffleiron,brokeitinhalfaclampeditaroundasecondwaffle
iron,pluggedthembothintomydryeroutlet.
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Morelikeawaffletitanium,amirite?
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Thereisasexualjokeheresomewhere.ButIcan'tbebotheredtofindit.
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Nokidding,itkeepsburningmywaffles.
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stupidsexywaffleiron
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You'reafuckinghotwaffleiron.(
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Yeah,I'dfuckthatwaffleiron'sbrainsout.
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TheDothrakiliketheirwaffleshot.
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It'sthrowinghotshrapnelintomybody.
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[] diegojones4 9points
Icompletelyagreewiththis.
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Thenyou'recompletelystupid.
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[] klsi832 1539points
KurtCobainwasmurdered.
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Hismusicwasshitanyway.
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DavidCarradinewasmurderedinsuchawaythatnobodywouldwanttolooktooclose.SowereRobinWilliamsandMichaelJackson.
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I'mnotsure.Ibelievehedidcommitsuicide,butI'veneverheardmuchreasoningforit.MythoughtisthatCourtneypushedKurttoofar
intothemusicbusiness,somethinghedespisedtoadegree,andafterawhilehejustcouldn'tlivewithwhathehadbeenmadeintoby
thesuccubusCourtneyLove.
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[] YeYEah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhmyGod!heandDaveGrohlwereinMydreamlastnight.IfeltbadbecauseasmuchasIloveDave...freakingKurtwasthereandI
askedhimsomanyquestions.
SoIneveraskedhowhedied.seemedrude.
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[] loveyourlies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hehadthreetimesthelethalamountofheroininhissystem...Thisisliketwofullsyringesandonemorehalffullsyringe.Every
practitioneronthecasesaidthatitwasliterallyimpossibleforKurttohaveshotupanymorethanonesyringefullbeforelosing
consciousness.Evenwithheroindependency.
ThelistofevidenceprovingKurt'sdeathwasactuallyamurderisendless.However,themediaandpolicechalkedituptosuicide
simplybecauseitlookedlikeasuicide,andbecausehewasfamous.
Hisfamily,closefriends,andacquaintancesallrefusedtobelieveitwasasuicideduetothefactthatKurt'sstomachpainshadhealed
andthatwastheonlyreasonwhyKurteversaidanythingsuicidalinthefirstplace.
Iwishmorepeopleknewthetruthabouthisdeath,it'sdisrespectfultocallitsuicide.
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[] klsi832 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasstillwearinghisrehabbracelet,andshoes.Itlookslikehewasambushed.Ishuddertothinkhewasheldupinthe
greenhouseatgunpointandforcedtoaddafewlinestohis'quittingNirvana'notebyCourtney'sgoons.Wecanonlyhopehisroot
beerwasdruggedortheinjectionofheroinwassoquickthatheneverreallysawitcoming.
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[] The_gray_ghost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyoulookatalloftheevidencetheonlylogicalconclusionisthathewasmurdered.Themostobviousandindisputableonesarethat
thebloodsplatteronthewallandtheshellareontheoppositesideofwheretheyshouldbe.Thatisliterallyimpossible,whenyoulook
ateverythingelsethePIbroughttolightyou'dhavetobestupidtothinkthathekilledhimself.
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[] Mutjny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ByDaveGrohl.
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Yes,justlikethewaythatHitleristhegreatestheroofWWIIbecausehekilledthatevilmaniacHitler.
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[] ferociousPAWS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilikethetheorythathe'snotdeadandhe'sactuallyRiversCuomoofWeezer.It'saprettyinterestingtheoryifyoulookintoit,Iwas
surprisednottoseeitonhere
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[] N1ghtwalk3r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fuckinCourtneylove
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Makesuretowearacondom!
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whowouldhavethoughtaguywhosungaboutsuicide,depression,anddrugaddictiondidn'tkillhimself.dumbassconspiracyforthe
kurtcobaincirclejerk.
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Hesworethathedidn'thaveagun.
Ithinkshesaidsomethingthatscaredtheshitoutofhimwhentheywerebothhigh,andhislizardbrainsaidKURT
KURTLISTENBESOBERFORASECOND
anditturnedintothatsongbecausehecouldn'tgotothepolicebecausethey'dbothgotojailfor1015forpossessionandnobody
wouldbelievehimandmaybeitwasjustaparanoidhit.
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[] mongo_smash undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butforrealsthough.Checkoutkillallenwrenchandelduce
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[] TampaREinvestor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknewElDuceandIcantellyouthatwholecrewwasthemostfuckedupgroupoflosers.Nowaywasthispulledoffandhidden.Trust
me.Elwaskingfuckup.
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Occam'sRazor.
Alltheselawenforcement/governmentconspiracytheoriesforgethowharditistokeepasecretlikethis,youhavetogethundredsof
peopletobeinonthecoverup,includinglotsofpeoplethathavenobigmotivationtodoso.LunarLanding,JFK,etc...
Idon'trememberwhosaidthisbutitshouldmakeyoufeelgoodthatthegovernmentisnotcompetentenoughtodocoverupsinaway
thatwouldreallykeepthingsasecret.
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SamewithPhilHartmanandChrisFarley.
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[] sheilzy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotanexpertaboutanythingNirvanaand/orHole,butIsortofdon'tthinkthis.IjustthinkCourtneyLovejusthasaweirdwayof
mourning.Idon'treallyremembertoomuchoftheCourtneyLovewhowasaroundwhileherhusbandwasalive,butfromwhatIrecall,
mostofherbizarrebehaviorshappenedafter.Idon'tremembertoomuchofherantics,butIthinksheflashedDavidLettermanonlive
TV,saidsomeswearsonadaytimetalkshow,insistedthatoneoftheexNirvanamembers,DavidGrohl,Ithink,washittingonher
daughterFrances,andgottenintoaLOTofotherfeuds,occasionallywithFrances.
Thendetectiveswantedtoinspecttheconditionsorsomething,becausetothemitlookedlikethebulletsusedcouldn'tfitintothegun
Kurtused,butshesaid"Justleaveitassuicide."Peoplethinkthat'ssuspicious,butIdon't.Shewasayoungmomwithatoddler,
freshlywidowed.Idon'tthinkshe'dbeabletotakealltheinvestigationandcoveragethatwouldget.Shedidn'twanttobereminded,
shejustwantedtogrieveinpeace.I'veseentheirweddingphotos,too.Andtheylookedsohappy.Shelookedexcitedandenamored.
Kurtspokewellofherininterviewsandthroughhismusic,andeveninhissuicidenote.Whenshedoesfeelliketalkingabouthimin
interviewsandisn'tactingweird,Courtneyspeakswellofhimaswell.Sheevenbragsabouthow"HeartShapedBox"isabouther
vagina.Hertwitternameis"CourtneyLoveCobain."AndKurtdiedalmosttwentyyearsagoandCourtneyhasn'tremarried.Idon'tthink
herodditiesarehercrackingfromtheguiltofkillinghim(orhiringsomeonetokillhim).Ithinkthey'resortofhergrieving,combinedwith
thedrugs,andthencombinedwithherrageathearingpeoplethinkshedidit.
IfKurtwasmurdered,Idon'tthinkitwasbecauseofCourtney.
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[] specialkake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatIDON'Tgetaboutthe"murder"theoriesandthelargedose.Whymesswiththegun?IfheOD'sthere'sevenlessofan
investigation/chanceofgettingcaught.
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SomepeoplethinkRomewasmurderattempt#1andtheshotgunwastomakesureitworkedthistime.
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[] quacksdontecho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Theresneverbeenanotherrecordedcaseofsomeonedyingwiththelevelsofheroinhehadinhisbloodstream.Yetsomehowhewas
abletoinject3syringesworth,packitupinhisbox,andshoothimself.Heroinwhenenteredintothebloodstreamreactsveryquickly.
KurtwantedadivorcefromCourtneyandhadaprenupthatwouldleavehimwithnothing.Insteadhediedandsheinheritedeverything,
includingroyalties.
Itwasabotchedinvestigationandanyonewhodeniesthatiswhatswrongwiththiscountry.
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[] anastasialeu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Agreed.WatchSoakedinBleachonNetflix.There'salotofholesinthatinvestigation.
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finally,adocumentaryonnetflixbyanutcasePIobsessedwithamanhedidn'tknowsolveda20yearoldopenandshutcaseof
suicide.perfect!
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[] anastasialeu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oryoucouldjust,y'know,watchit.
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[] downvotethelogic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didyouactuallywatchthedoc,withactualaudiorecordings?
SomepeoplejustwentintoIMDBandvotedit1,togetit'suserratingdown.Ifthisisn'tatextbookexampleofburying
uncomfortableevidence,Idon'tknowwhatis.
http://imgur.com/hCHYvrt
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Haha.Itlooksasiftheonlypeoplewholikeitareyoungerpeoplewhodidn'tlivethroughtheearlynineties.
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IrememberatthetimethinkingthatHole's"LiveThroughThis"wassurprisinglyaptlynamedforcomingoutaweekafterhisdeath.I
was12thenandwasprettyfamiliarwithNirvana'smusic,butIhadneverheardofHolebeforethat.EveryoneIknewlistenedtothat
CDbecauseshewasKurtCobain'swidow.
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Itactuallyhadafewgoodsongsonit,butIthinkKurthelpedalot.
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[] _Bucket_Of_Truth_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
www.cobaincase.com
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[] IIHotelYorba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anyonewiththemostpassinginterestinthisneedtowatch"SoakedinBleach"onNetflix.Iwatched"KurtandCourtney"backinthe
day,andI'vereadalotaboutit,andIdidn'tconsideranythingIsawtobeconvincingbeforeIsawthis.It'seasilyoneofthebestand
mostconvincingdocumentariesI'veeverseen.
It'snotaclearindictmentofCourtneyLovesomuchasprettyconclusivethatwhatweknowaboutthecaseandCobainhimselfhas
beentotally,totallywrong.
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Ugh,IhaveaproblemwiththeKurtmurdertheory.
Kurtwasn'tmurdered.It'sfarmorelikelythischronicallydepressedheroinaddictwhotalkedaboutkillinghimself....killedhimself.Idon't
carewhatshoeshewaswearing.
ButCourtneyLovestillkilledhim.Sheenabledhim,sheactuallyencouragedhimtotakeupheroinagainwhenhewastryingtoget
clean.TheyhadadaughterandLovedidn'tcare,shekeptrightonbeingacrazypsychountilajudgetookherdaughterawayfromher.
LoveDIDkilledKurt.ShewasfuckedintheheadandwantedKurttosufferwithher.
Butno,shedidn'tmurderhimorhavehimmurdered.SayingshedidjustletsheroffthehookfortheACTUALbadthingshedid.
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HewaswearingblackConverses.
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Yeah.Peoplekeepsayinghecouldn'thavesteppedonthetriggerinthosethings.Imean,Ithinkhecould.Yougottakinda
jimmythetoeinbutifthetrigger'ssensitiveenoughitwouldbeeasy.
SomeoneshouldMythbustersthis.Obviouslyusinganunloadedshotgun.
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[] MyOpinionLacksMerit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkwhateveryonereallydoesntthinkabouthereismotive.Theyweremarried.Hewasmisreable.Hewaslikelypmanningon
divorcingher,quittingmusic,andretiringallatthesametime.
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Heralbumcameoutrightafterhedied,canyouimaginehowlittleanyonewouldbeinterestedinitifshewasjustthepsychothat
Kurtrecentlydivorced?
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[] sunny_and_raining undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SimonAmstellthoughtso
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Dude,Courtnyloveisonherwayroundtoyourhouserightnow,andsheisnotwearinganymakeup!!!
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Ohyeah,hedefinitelywas.
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theheroinkitboxdon'tlie
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[] anonymousanon605 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoakedinBleachisagreatdocumentaryonNetflixaboutthis.Definitelyworthawatch.
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[] L0ngp1nk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfCourtneyLovedidkillKurtCobainthenitimpliesthatCourtneyLoveiscleverenoughtogetawaywithmurderandshedoesn'tneed
thatcredit.
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Sheisn't.However,thewomanhasalooootofconnections.I'mtalkinghighmilitaryofficialsandshit.Rumourhasitshehad/has
sexualrelationshipwiththem.Theywouldnotshyawayfromcoveringhertracks.WatchthemoviethatcameoutaboutKurt,
SoakedinBleach.Realeyeopener.
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AllIknowisitsetupthisbrilliantjokebySimonAmstel,andforthatI'mgrateful.
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[] BrandyAlexander9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalwaysbelievedthatKurtCobainwasmurderedandmythiswasalwaysmyfriend'sgotoanswer.ShebelievedthatCourtney
Lovewasn'tcapableofpullingofftheperfectcrime.Ipersonallybelieveshepaidsomeone,whichisplausibleconsideringsomeone
cameforwardsayingthatsheofferedhim25,000tokillhim.Thenhemysteriouslygothitbyatrain.
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[] RossPerotVan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sheisactuallyveryintelligent.Crazyasallgetout.Butveryintelligent
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[] L0ngp1nk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SonowCourtneyisresponsiblefortwodeathsandgotawaywithboth?Notbuyingit.
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Ifyoulookintothis,somesayshe'sresponsiblefor4.AfewmonthsafterKurtdied,KristenPfaffofHolediedinavery
similarway.Shehadkickedherheroinhabit,hadaUHaultruckpackedtomovethenextday,thenshesuddenly
overdosedinabathtubwithnowitnesses.ShehadsuddenlydecidedtoleaveHole,andtherewererumorsthatKurt
hadsomethinggoingonwithher.Everyoneinherfamilythinksshewasmurdered.TherewasalsoaDetectiveTerryin
theSeattlePDwhowasshotandkilledundermysteriouscircumstancesnotlongafterKurt'sdeath,itwasthefirsttime
someoneintheSeattlePDhaddiedinthelineofdutyin9years.
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[] turinturambar81 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DetectiveTerry,whoCourtneyhadknownpriortoKurt'sdeath,andwastheofficeronthescenewhodeclaredita
suicidewithinhoursdespitenotoxicologyresults(3xlethaldoseofheroinplusbenzosmakingitexceedingly
unlikelyhecouldputawayhisworksandblowhisheadoffpriortopassingthefuckout).
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CourtneylovewasalsoapoliceinformantwithSeattlePD,andKurt'stireswereallslashed.Somedetails
barelyevergetdiscussed.
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[] PsySick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mostoverdosesoccurwhenanrecoveringaddictfallsoffthewagonandgoesbacktothedosestheyweredoing
withahightolerance.
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Cobainwasalilbitch
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[] BDMCheetah 187points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,manydocumentariesonthisthatIwouldstronglyrecommendpeoplewatch,butIdoalsofirmlybelievethathedidnotmurder
himself.Here'saverysimplifiedversionastowhy:
(Innoparticularorder)
1. Theamountofheroinfoundinhissystemwasthreetimesthelethaldoseforahuman.Yes,Cobainwasaheroinaddict,butthis
alsomeansthatheknowswhatanormaldoseis,andthreetimesisnotevenclosetoanormalheroindose.Ifhewasgoingto
commitsuicidethisway,whywouldhealsoshoothimselfinthefacewithashotgun?
2. Theletterheleft.Ifyougoandlookatit,it'sapparentthatatleastthelastfewlines(ifnotthewholeletter)werewrittenby
someoneelse,orindifferenthandwriting.Manymembersofhisfamily/closefriendsofKurt'ssaidthattheletter"justdidn'tsound
likehim"/"Idon'tthinkhewroteit",etcetc.
3. ThatgrimytrailerparkdudewhoisonvideoswearingthatCourtneyLoveapproachedhimofferingsomelargesumofmoneyto
"off"Cobain.Whoknowsifit'strue,whoknowsifthisguyiscrazyorwhatever,butgiventheotherevidencethisseemslikeit
maybeacontributor.
4. CourtneyLovewasknowntobekindacrazy/unstable,particularlybackwhenshewaswithKurt.
Ireallythinkthateithersheshothimupandthenshothimintheface,orthatshepaidsomeonetodothesameeitheraftershooting
himupwiththeH.Ican'tbesureoftheexactdetails,andobviouslythere'snotreallyanywaytoproveanyofit,butIdotrulybelieve
deepdownthatKurtCobainwasmurderedeitherbyCourtneyLovedirectly,orbysomeonethatLovehired.
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[] BedriddenSam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatgrimytrailerparkdudewhoisonvideoswearingthatCourtneyLoveapproachedhimofferingsomelargesumofmoneyto
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maybeacontributor.
That'sguysalsoasinger,noreasonhewouldn'tsaythatjustforpublicity.
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[] sirMouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhewasgoingtocommitsuicidethisway,whywouldhealsoshoothimselfinthefacewithashotgun?
It'sactuallynotthatuncommonforpeopletoattemptmultiplesuicidemethodsatonce,egtryingtoODbeforeshootingyourself.
Takesoutalltheroomforerrorifonefails.Evenifthehugeamountofheroincouldn'tbeexplainedbytoleranceitdoesn'treally
pointtofoulplay.
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Ithink#2isprobablyexplainedprettywellby#1.Ifyou'rethatdruggedupyouprobablyaren'tgoingtoarticulateyourthoughtsor
writethesamewasasyouotherwisewould.
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[] citricacidx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatgrimytrailerparkdudewhoisonvideoswearingthatCourtneyLoveapproachedhimofferingsomelargesumofmoneyto
maybeacontributor.
EldonHoke.Hepassedapolygraphtest.
OnMarch6th1996,ElDuceunderwentandpassedaliedetectortestadministeredbyDr.E.Gelbaleadingpolygraph
examiner.HeadministeredapolygraphtesttoO.J.SimpsontwodaysafterthemurderofhiswifeandsaidthatO.J.failedthe
testquitebadly.AccordingtoDr.Gelb,ElDuce'sstoryiscompletelytruthful.
Tothequestion"DidCourtneyLoveaskyoutokillKurtCobain?"Duce'spositiveresponseshoweda99.91%certaintythathe
wastellingthetruth,whichfallsintothecategory"beyondpossibilityofdeception".Ducealsoscorethesamewhenthequestion
wasrepeated.Whenaskedthequestion"Wereyouoffered$50,000byCourtneyLovetokillKurtCobain?"Ducescoreda
slightlylessimpressive99.84%score
HewasinterviewedforadocumentarycalledKurt&CourtneywherehesaidheknewwhokilledKurt,buthewouldlettheFBIcatch
him.2daysafterthatinterview,hewasmysteriouslykilledontraintracks.
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[] thewolfmansbrotha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhewasgoingtocommitsuicidethisway,whywouldhealsoshoothimselfintheface
Moreimportantly,how?
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[] Bl4Z3D_d0Nut311 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'thestillwearinghislacedupDocMartinstoo?Andhowcouldhereachthetriggerontheshotgunifhisshoeswereon?
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[] Funkit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iusedtobeanaddict.Thereisnowaytoknowtheactualreceiveddosageofdiamorphineinaheavilycutbatch,nottomention
tolerancesoars.3xnormaldoseisnotthatsurprising.Whataretheydefiningasanormaldose?Abeginnerdose?WhenIwasat
mypeakmyaveragedosewouldeasilykillapersonwhoneverdidopiates.
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[] Negative_Clank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Crazy,unstable"peoplearen'tveryknowntocommittheperfectmurder.
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Doesthedocumentaryaddresswhatwouldbethemotivefordoingthat?
Nirvanahadjustcomeoffasuccessfultour,"grungerock"hadn'tevenquitepeakedsoitwouldn'tbeforpublicity.
AndIdon'tseemoneybeingafactorCourtneyhasFrancisBean,soregardlessofhowthingsworkedoutdowntheline,it'snot
likeshewouldhavebeencutoff.
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[] imafuckingshrub undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CourtneyandKurtwerealsogettingadivorceatthetime.Andabouttheheroine,onceyoushootthatamountupyou'regoingto
passoutnomatterwhat.Anotherbigthingisthebulletcasingwasfoundontheoppositesidethenitshouldhavebeen,and
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forensicexpertsagreedonthis.Therewasalsonotmuchdonetoevaluatethecrimeseenatthetimeitwasimmediatelydeemeda
suicide.
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[] gh0stmach1ne undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IheardthatinthedaysleadinguptohisdeathCourtneyhadcalledthecopssayingKurtwasholedupinhisroomwithguns.When
confronted,Kurtexplainedthathehadthegunstoprotecthimselffromher.
NotsurewhereIheardthis.Couldbebullshit.
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[] asmulaabas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shecouldn'thavedoneitherselfcuzifIrememberrightshewasinLAatthetimeandhediedinWashington.
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[] BreadB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trailerparkdude,daysaftergivingthatgrainytestimony,wasfounddeadoutonthetraintracksalonehavingapparentlybeenrun
overbyaslowmovingfreight.Verysuspicious
IIRChewentby"IlDuce"
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[] WordSalad11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theamountofheroinfoundinhissystemwasthreetimesthelethaldoseforahuman.
Thereisnolethaldoseofheroin.It'sdifferentforeachperson,andincreasesdrasticallybasedontolerance.Ihaveseenawoman
lessthanhalfmyweighttakeatleast10timesmoremorphinethanIcouldsurvivesittinginbedandchattingwithme.
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I'vealwaysbeenonthefence,butthenagainIalsohaveafriendwhowouldgetvisiblyangrywhenpeoplebroughtupthistheory
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[] rlw0312 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
And,toaddtoyourlist,thefactthatKristenPfaffdiedshortlyafterwasabigredflag.ThefactthatsheandKurtwerecloseandthat
shewasmovingtogetawayfromCourtneyputherprettyhighuponCourtney'sshitlist.
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Apparently,hewasgoingtodivorceher,movieenoughIguess.Didn'twanttolosethatgoldengoose.
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Ihaveafamilyfriendthatworkedforacompanythatoffersprivateflightsinthewesternwashingtonarea,accordingtohim
CourtneycharteredaprivateflightinandoutofWashingtonthenighthewasmurdered,thenpaidfordiscretion.
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1. anaddictwouldneedmorethena"normal"dose.
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Ifhewasgoingtocommitsuicidethisway,whywouldhealsoshoothimselfinthefacewithashotgun?
Tobethorough.Hecouldhavepotentiallysurvivedoneortheother,hemostcertainlywouldn'tsurviveboth.
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Funny.Idon'tseeanythingevencloselyresemblingasourceorproof
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Theamountofheroinfoundinhissystemwasthreetimesthelethaldoseforahuman.
SoIkeephearingthisandIstillhaveneverheardwhatexactlya"lethaldose"isdefinedasforheroin.Whatistheexacttechnical
definitionof"lethaldose"forKurttohavehad3timesthatmuchinhisbloodstream?Howisitmeasures?IsitlikeABV?g/ml?
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mg/dl?Herointolerancecanvarysomuchthatalethaldoseforonepersonisdifferentthanalethaldoseforaregularuser.
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Alsoifhetookthreetimesthenormaldoseofheroinhowwouldhebeconsciousenoughtoputtheguntohisheadandpullthe
trigger.Hewouldbepassedout.What'sevenmoreunsettlingishowlittletheyactuallyinvestigatedthewholethingbeforedeciding
itwasasuicide.
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"Murderhimself"?
Couldhavebeenaggravated.
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Theamountofheroinfoundinhissystemwasthreetimesthelethaldoseforahuman.Yes,Cobainwasaheroinaddict,butthis
alsomeansthatheknowswhatanormaldoseis,andthreetimesisnotevenclosetoanormalheroindose.Ifhewasgoingto
commitsuicidethisway,whywouldhealsoshoothimselfinthefacewithashotgun?
Youtaketheherointomakeiteasiertoovercomesecondthoughtsaboutshootingyourselfandyoushootyourselftomakesure
youdon'taccedentallysurvivetheheroinODasavegetable.
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Imean,IshotdopeandIwaseasilyshootingthreetimesasmuchasIwaswhenIstartedandIneverhadthesamebudgetas
Kurt.
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1. Kurtwasamillionaireheroinaddict,hewasprobablyabletotakealotmoreherointhantheaverageperson,andifIwasa
heroinaddictandwasgoingtokillmyself,I'dprobablytakeashitloadofheroinbeforepullingthetrigger.
2. Peopleoftensaythattheydidn'tseeitcomingatallwhendepressedpeoplekillthemselves.Depressedpeoplegenerally
hidetheirdepression.Havingsaidthis,Ihaven'treadthelettersoI'monlyspeakingingeneralities.
3. Couldbebullshit.
4. Irrelevant.
I'mnotsayinghedefinitelywasn'tmurdered,buttherearepossibleexplanationsforthese.
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Thehandwritinglooksdifferentbecausethedrugswerekickingin
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4Kinda?Kinda?She'sfullblownnuts.
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AsImentionedinresponsetoacommentbelow,theseareonlyafewpiecesofevidencethatrefutesthewidelyacceptedstory
thathecommittedsuicide.Thereismuchmoreoutthere,andIverymuchencourageallofyoutodoyourownresearch.Even
thethingsthatIdidhighlightaren'tasdetailedaswhatyouwillbeabletofindviaresearch(i.e.youwouldneedtolookatthe
lettertoknowwhatIwastalkingabout,etc.)
Thisissuchalazycopout.Ifthereisapreponderanceofevidencesupportingyourtheory,youshouldbeabletofindit.A
documentarythatwascreatedtomakemoneyandsomeconjectureaboutwhatyouthinkisfishyornotfishyisnotevidence.
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Lethaldoseofheroinwouldmakehimunresponsiveenoughtolayoutthescenelikeitwasasuicide
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Assomeoneinhis20'swhenCobaindied,itwasalotmoreobviousatthetimethathewaslookingtooffhimself.Afewweeksprior
he'dbeentreatedforanoverdoseeveryonesuspectedwasintentional,andhe'dbeensufferingfromadownwardspiralofserious
depression.
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Inotherwords,Ilikeaconspiracytheoryasmuchasthenextguy...butinthiscaseyoushouldprobablycallaspadeaspade.
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Sure,butthedocumentarymakestheargumentthatthoseprevious"attempts"werenotactualsuicideattempts.
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AlsolikeallofInUteroisasuicideletter
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watchthedoc
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"watchsomepropaganda"istheonlythingIreadhere.
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iunderstandwhatyouaresayingbecauseofshitlikezeitgeist.
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It'sliterallywatchingaonesideddebatewheresomeonecanfudgenumbersandquoteswithoutreal
consequence.Idon'twatchthosethingsanymoreunlessit'ssomenatureshowaboutpenguinsor
something.Eventhenlemmingsdon'tkillthemselveseither.
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Yes,thelemmingsdidnotkillthemselves.Thatiswhateveryonethoughforyearsuntilthecameout.
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iagreeforthemostpart.alotofwhatienjoyedaboutthisinparticularishowtheyincorporatedactual
audiorecordings,yestheycanbeplayedtoevokeacertainreactionfromtheviewbutstill.Heyyou
seemlikeyouhaveyourmindmadeupsoi'llletyoucontinueinyourownselffulfillingprophecy.
Eitherwayitsentertainingandthoughtprovoking.
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alotofwhatienjoyedaboutthisinparticularishowtheyincorporatedactualaudio
recordings,yestheycanbeplayedtoevokeacertainreactionfromtheviewbutstill.
LookatwhathappenedwithACORNthough.Youcan'tevertakeoneofthesethingsseriously
theyalwayshaveabentviewpointandmotivebehindthedirector'seyes.Atleastwithawritten
paperIcangobackandforthbetweenquotesandsourceswithinsecondsandcanskimpast
theunnecessaryhoneydicking.
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3timesthelethaldose
Afterawhileidimagineyougetusedtodoingalot.Not"x3thelethaldose"amountbutalot.Heprobablywantedandafuckingkick
asshighbeforehedied
handwritingontheletter
Youwouldassumethatbeingonx3thelethaldosageofheroinwouldcauseyourpenmanshiptobe"off"
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Asaonetimehugeheroinjunkie,therewasapointwhereIcoulddo10timesmynormaldoseandnotdie.YoudevelopaHUGE
tolerancewhenIV'ingopiatesoverlongperiodsoftime.Idoubtthethreetimesthenormaldosedidanythingbutgivehimalittle
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Wellyourfirstpointiseasilyexplained.Hewantedtofeelasgoodaspossiblewhileheshothimselfsohedidafucktonofheroin.
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OnApril14,1994,SeattlePostIntelligencereportedthatCobainwas"highonheroinwhenhepulledthetrigger."Thepaper
reportedthatthetoxicologicaltestsdeterminedthatthelevelofheroininCobain'sbloodstreamwas1.52milligramsperliterand
thattherewasalsoevidenceofvaliuminhisblood.
Somesourcesquotethemedianlethaldose(foranaverage75kgopiatenaiveindividual)asbeingbetween75and600mg.
You'reobjectivelywrongandnoonebothersblowingoffsomeone'sheadwhenthey'vegiventhemthreetimesalethaldoseof
heroin.Kurthadbeenhospitalisedforoverdoses.
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medianlethaldose
ThisexcludesoutliersBTW.
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Youmisunderstandwhatitmeanstosayhowmuchhehasinhissystem.HewasaHEAVYheroinuser,andhadatolerancethat
couldhandlealotmorethanthenormaldose.Sosay,anormaldosetoanormalpersonhasanormaleffect.Anormaldosetoa
hightoleranceuserwillhavelessereffects.Auserneedsmore.Inallreality,andthisiscomingfromaformerheroinaddict,whathe
hadinhissystemmaynothavebeenallthatmuchforhistolerance.Mepersonally,inmyusingdaysIcouldeasilyingestmorethan
3timeswhatanormalpersoncould.AndInevereventouchedaneedle.CobainwasafarheavierusetthanI.
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Agreed.Alsoitisincrediblyhardtooverdoseonheroinifyouhavenothingelseinyoursystem(Ihavetriedthisonpurpose
twice),especiallyifyou'vegotaslargeatoleranceashedid.
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That'ssocompletelyuntrue.Heroinisveryveryeasytooverdoseonwithoutotherdrugsinvolved.
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Hm,Imean,Iseewhatyou'regettingat,butI'vegivenmyselflargedosesbecauseIspecificallywantedtokill
myself,andIpassedout,butwokeuplater.
Itwasprettyirresponsibleofmetosaymyearlierpost.
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I'veexperiencedthesamethingsoIknowwhatyoumean,I'veattemptedsuicidebytakinglike500mgof
heroinand10mgofalprazolamandsurvivedwithoutmedicalintervention.Gotradialnervepalsyinboth
armsthough.
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Junkiesaretoughbastardstokill,really.10dayswithoutsleepshouldkillstilliknowmanyexamples.Theamountofdrugs
onecantakewhenhehasbuilttoleranceforitcanexceed"fatal"amountsdaily(notverylongthou..)Backedby:several
seriousoverdoses,stupidamountoftimeswhenbeingjustshortofOD(notopiates..),stillhereandclean.Weusedtotake
pillsbylookingatmaxdosageperhourandsettingupalarmclocks,stayingalwaysabovethelimits...
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Idon'tunderstandyourfirstsentence.Idounderstandhowtoleranceworks.Eventhecraziestheroinaddictdoesnothavea
tolerancethatcanhandle3xalethaldoseofheroin.Lethalmeansdeath.NotjustOD,lethal.Hewas3xoverthat.Tolerance
cannotaccountforthat.
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Lethaldoesnotmeandeath.LethalmeansLD50=Thepointatwhichhalfthepopulationwoulddiefromthegiven
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dose.Therearenoabsolutelethallevelsofanychemicalyoucaningestbecausebiologyisweirdandsometimes
peoplereactweirdlytodifferentthings.
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Sorry,itshouldhaveread"youmisunderstandhowtoleranceworks."Youclaimtoknowbutclearlyyoudont.The"3x
lethaldose"claimisabitdubious,aseveryoneisaffecteddifferentlybydrugs.OzzyOsborneisagreatexampleofhow
geneticsplaysinaroleinhowdrugseffectindividualsdifferently.Butlet'sgowithitanyways.Thelethaldoseiswhat
killstheaveragehumanbeing.Asin,thehumanbeingwithnotolerance.IpersonallyhadatolerancewhereIcould
ingest200mgsofoxycontininthespanof5minutes.Mostpeoplewoulddiewellbefore80mginthattimespan.And
thatwasbeforeIstartedchasingthedragon.Youreallyshouldn'targuewithformerjunkiesabouttolerances.
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Youreallyshouldn'targuewithanyoneabouttolerance,tobehonest.Toleranceisnotevenunderstoodby
medicalprofessionals,howcouldRedditorshopetounderstandit?
ButanewdocumentarycameoutandallofasuddeneveryonethinkstheyhavetheanswertohowKurtCobain
died,despitethefactthatDatelinedidapieceonitelevenyearsagoandoutof5medicalinvestigators,2saidit
wasentirelyplausibleand3saidtheydidn'thaveenoughtogoonfromthatreportalone.Youknow,thereport
thatissupposedlyevidenceforhimdyingfromtheheroindose.
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Toleranceisnotevenunderstoodbymedicalprofessionals,howcouldRedditorshopetounderstandit?
Firstly,bearinmindthatsomeRedditorsaremedicalprofessionals.
Secondly,andmoreimportantly,wedounderstandtolerancetodrugs!
IcanonlyspeakfromtheperspectiveofmyfieldcognitiveneurosciencebutpleasetrustmewhenIsay
thatdrugtoleranceissomethingthatweunderstandverywell.Fromthemoleculartothepsychological
level,wehavedevelopedaverysophisticatedunderstandingofhowthebrainandthebodyreactsto
repeateddrugexposure.
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Soyoucandefinitivelystateatwhichpointanaddictcantoleratewhatlevelofdrugsintheirsystem?
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No,ofcoursenot.Butweunderstandhowdrugtoleranceworks,ingreatdetail.
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What'syourpoint??Ibroughtupyourpointaboutthelethaldoseandexplainedtoyouwhyyouwerewrong.
It'sthesamereasonGeorgeJungcouldrailmostpeople'sdailydosesofcokeinoneline.Ohyouwatched
adocumentarysoyouhavesomeknowledge?Trylivingthelife,beingajunkiefor5years,trybeingso
deepinthegripsofwithdrawalswhereallyouwannadoisdie,trygoingthroughrehabandtryingtorebuild
abrokenlifefromrockbottom.IthinkIhavesomefirsthandknowledgeoftolerances,enoughtodiscuss
anddebatesfactsandexperienceswithit.Butenjoyyourdocumentary!
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Whyareyougoingoffonme?Iwasagreeingwithyou.
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Attheriskofkeepingthisneedlesslygoing,atnopointinanyofyourpostsdidyouagreewith
anypointImade.I'mfactyouprettyclearlydisagreedwithyourfirsttworeplies.Butenjoythe
knewknowledge!
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Manymembersofhisfamily/closefriendsofKurt'ssaidthattheletter"justdidn'tsoundlikehim"/"Idon'tthinkhewroteit",etc
etc.
Lotsofpeoplesaythiswhentheirlovedonesdosomethinglikecommitsuicideorcommitaviolentcrime.Noonewantstobelieve
thepeopletheycareaboutarecapableofkillingthemselvesoraresodepressedthattheywouldwanttodoso.
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Plus,Iimaginethestateofmindyouwouldbeinwouldbedifferent.Thinkabouthowdifferentyourwriting"voice"iswhen
writingapersonalnotevsprofessional.Orlikepoetryvsaremindernote.Iimagineyouwouldn'tsoundlikeyourselfinthis
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SoIknowthegistofthestoryandconspiracytheories,butreadingyourcomment,myfirstthoughtwasthatmaybeitwasan
assistedsuicide?Hewaswritinghisnote,wastoofuckeduptofinish,wantedCourtneytojustgetitoverwithandkillhim,she
wasfuckedupenoughtodoitandfinisheshisletterforhimbecausesherealizedwhatshejustdidandneededtocoveritup.
Wasthateveratheoryforanyoneorwasitalwayssuicidevs.murderbyCourtney?
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Nottomyknowledge,no.The'Kurtwasmurdered'conspiracytheoristsseemtotypicallycomefromaplaceofhatred
forCourtneyLove,soherhelpinghimoffhimselfdoesn'treallyjibe.It'samoreplausibletheorythanhermanagingto
coverupamurderfordecadesthough.
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Maybethey'reallconspiracies.
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Thedifferenthandwritingcanbeexplainedtoo.Maybehewrotetheletter,carrieditaroundwhiledrinkingorsomething,sat
downandwrotethelastpartwithitonhislap.Theletterslookabitwiderandlessstraight,likethebackingwasn'taflator
hardsurface.
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whataboutthepaperthePIfoundthathadalltheletterstracedontoitlikeakeyforcopyinghishandwriting?
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Idon'tknowaboutapaper.I'vejustseenthesuicideletter.Butifsomeonewaspracticinghishandwritingthey
suredidn'tshowitontheletteritself,unlessthewholethingwasfaked...inwhichcasethedifferenthandwritingat
theendmakesnosense.
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thedocisworthcheckingout.i'mconspiracyskepticalbutithinkthereisalotofinformationworth
consideringinthiscase.
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Adoseofheroinvariessomuchthough.Itdependsonthepurity.Youcouldhave10bagsofshitthatisequivalentto1bagofpure.
Andbecausehewasanaddict,alethaldoseforhimwouldbemuchhigherthanforanonuser.Yourbodybuildsupatoleranceto
morphineveryquickly,whichisoneofthereasonsit'ssoaddictive.
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Thentheleveloftoxicitywouldbelower.Poorvsstrongheroinislikesaying,"wellIdon'tthingagallonofwhiskeycouldget
Gusdrunk,becauseIhaveseenhimdrinkagallonofbeermanytimes."
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Theyaretalkingaboutthetoxicologyresults.Purityortolerancewouldn'thavemuchtodowiththelevels.WhatIDON'Tget
aboutthe"murder"theoriesandthelargedose.Whymesswiththegun?IfheOD'sthere'sevenlessofan
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Youreallythinkamillionarerockstarwouldhaveshitgear?
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Andwouldn'tKurthavehadaprettyhightolerancebythatpoint?Whatexactlyis"threetimesthelethaldose"whenalethal
dosevariessomuchfrompersontoperson?
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Yeah,buthejustgotoutofrehab.Sohistolerancewouldbelowerthanitnormallywas.ManyaddictsIDthisway
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Heescapedrehabafterafewdaysprobablynotlongenoughtowithdrawal.
Funnyapocyphalanecdote:
HewasinExodusrehabwithGibbyHanes,frontmanoftheButtholeSurfers,jokinglydiscussinghowtheyshould
scalethebuilding'souterwalltoescapetheplace.
AdayortwolaterCobainactuallyjumpedthewalltoescaperehab.Whichisodd,becausehecouldhavejust
walkedoutthedoor.
However,itdoesspeaktohisstateofmindatthetime:irraticandirrational.
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But,still,threetimes?Idon'tthinkhistolerancewouldevergetsohighthathewouldevertakethreetimesthe
normallethaldose.
Alsowhenyourtolerancegoesupdoesyourabilitytotakemorewithoutanoverdosegoup?That'swhatseems
tobeimpliedinmostofthesecomments.
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Threetimesofwhatthough!?Whatthehellisthelegal/medical/techincaldefinitionof"lethaldose"?
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Itisnotthedose,butthebloodcontent.Hisbloodcontentwasthreetimesthefatallimit.Itwouldbe
likesaying,"Hewasdrinking,andshothimselfwhenhisBAHwas(.5isusuallyfatal)1.5."
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Googlesays200500mg
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Alsowhenyourtolerancegoesupdoesyourabilitytotakemorewithoutanoverdosegoup?That's
whatseemstobeimpliedinmostofthesecomments
Thatistheexactdefinitionofhavingahighertolerance.Iknewa35yearold95poundwomanthatdranka
5thanightandstayedcoherent.
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Yes,thatisbasicallywhattoleranceis.Howmuchyoucantolerate.Soifyouneedmoretogethigh,your
bodycantoleratetakingmore.
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Ihearyou,butIdon'tcarewhatthepurityofhisheroinisthreetimesthelethaldoseisbeyondthemarginofgoodHvs.bad
H...Nottomentionwe'retalkingaboutsuperstarKurtCobain,you'vegottobelievethatheisgettinghigherqualitydrugsthan
averagestreetheroinaddicts.
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Whatisthelethaldoseofherointhough.Canyoupleaselinkmetothisstudythatshowsit?Becausetheotherdayin
anexactduplicateofthisthreadwehadthisdiscussionandnobodycameupwithevidence.
LethaldosealsoequalstheLD50=thepointwhere50%ofthepopulationwoulddiefromthatdoes.Itdoesn'tmean
thatthedoseisabsolutelylethalforeverysinglepersonwhoeverconsumesitbecausethat'simpossibletogauge.
Finally,thisisallanirrelevantredherringthrownoutbyconspiracytheorists.Itdoesn'teliminatetheprobablescenario
thatheshothimselfupwithheroinandthenimmediatelypulledthetrigger.
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Foranonuser,Iv60+mgonsomeonewithanonexistenttolerance,whenIused,alethaldoseformewouldbe
upwardsof250+mgiv'dallthesebeingpurefiguresbtw,notaccountingforcuts.
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Anormal'I'mgonnagetrealhigh'doseforaproperaddictwouldverylikelykillanonaddict.
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That'swhatkilledPhillipSeymourHoffman
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Ibelievehewassoberforalongtimerightbeforeheoverdosed,right?Iimagineheprobablycracked,
boughtsomeherointhentriedtousethesameamountthathewasusedtoshootingwhenhewasan
addict,andbythenitwasjustwaytoomuchforhimashe'dlosthistolerance.ButmaybeI'mjuststatingthe
obvious,Idunno.
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Yes,that'spreciselywhyhedied.Hehadbeensoberforalongtime,decidedhewantedtogethigh
again,mistakenlytookanamountthatheusedtotake,hisbodyhadnotolerance,andsoheOD'd.If
PSHhadbeenusingpriortohisOD,hisbodywouldhavehadapropertolerancelevel(foranabuser)
andhewouldhavelived.
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Outofcuriosity,whatwouldherincentiveormotivebe?Wouldn'tshehavebenefitedmorefromhimcontinuingintostardom?I
couldbewrong,butIthoughhewasstillclimbingupwardatthetimeofhisdeath.
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Shewastiedtohissuccess.Ifhedecidedtoleavethebusiness,whichisnoteclearlymakesspecificreferencestobeingtired
oftouringandfeelinglikehewasjustpunchingatimeclock,she'dloseoutonallthemoneyhe'dbeearningforthem.She'd
alsoloseoutonbeingabletoridehiscoattails.
Andifhedivorcedherbecauseshewasbeingshittyabouthimquitting,shewouldstandtoloseevenmoremoney.
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she'dloseoutonallthemoneyhe'dbeearningforthem.
Thisispurebullshit,notonlywouldshehavethekidbutalsohasapropercaseforalimony.Adivorcewouldcertainly
gainherasmuchmoneyashisdeathwouldIFNOTMORE.
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Thepartyouquotedisinreferencetofutureearningshe'dbeforegoingbyquittingandnottouring.
Also,it'snotsetinstonethatshe'dhavecustodyoftheirchild.MAYBEIFITYPEITINCAPSITWILLMAKETHE
POINTMOREVALID.
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Also,it'snotsetinstonethatshe'dhavecustodyoftheirchild.
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Ohplease,there'sareason/r/MRAisfilledwithbitterjadedoldmen.
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YOUSURETOLDME.
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What?
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Shewasupsetthatheturneddownamultimilliondollaroffertotourwithlollapalooza.Shefeltlikethatwasnotonlybadfor
Nirvana,butbadforHoleaswell.Theothermotivewasthathedidn'twanttobewithheranymoreandhadbeendistancing
himselfmoreandmore.Phonerecordsfromarehabshestayedin,aswellaswitnesswhowereinterviewed(friendsand
associatesshetalkedtowhiletryingtogetintouchwithhim)showedthatshemay1020callstohimonadailybasis,allof
whichwentunanswered.HewastryingtogetawayfromHERandshewasn'thappyaboutit.Manyofherpriorboyfriends
hadcomeforwardafterandclaimedthatshehadbeenabusiveandstalkerishtowardsthemwhentheywouldtrytobreakup
withthem.Shehadherreasonstowanthimdead.
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Ishouldhavementionedthisinmyoriginalpost,butKurtwasintheprocessofdivorcingCourtney,andwasrewritinghiswill
whichhehadallegedlycutCourtneyoutof.
KeepinmindthatIhaveonlysummarizedafewpointsinmypost,andthattherearemanymorepiecesofevidenceagainst
her.Theheroindoseandtheletterareprobablythemostdamning,IMO,though.
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Seemsreasonableenough.Thanksforthereply!
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IbelieveKurtkilledhimselfwithheroinandCourtneypaidsomeonetomakeitlooklikeagunrelatedsuicide.Why?Idon'tknow,
thatbitchiscrazy.
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IheardatheoryabouthimaccidentallyoverdosingbutCourtneyeithershothimherselforpaidsomeoneto,tomakeitlook
likeintentionalsuicide.
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Thisisaveryplausibletheory.WhenyoulookintothewayCourtneyandCaliwereactingit'sfairlycleartheyknewhewas
deadbeforehewasfound,butthatdoesn'tmeanmurder.Maybeshejustwantedthesuicidenoteforgedtoincludelineslike'I
haveagoddessofawifewhosweatsambitionandempathy'and'Iloveyou!'soeveryonewouldfeelsorryforher,becausein
realitytheyhatedeachotherandwereabouttogetdivorcedatthattime.
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Myguesswouldbethatshedislikesgunsandlikesheroin.
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ItwasprobablyCaliDeWitt.She'sadmittedtogivinghim$30,000togotorehab.ThatgrimytrailerparkdudewasElDuce,he
passedaliedetectortestwithflyingcolorsstatingCourtneyofferedhim50grandtoblowKurt'sheadoffandmakeitlooklikea
suicide.AmatterofdaysafteradmittingthistotheguywhomadeKurtandCourtneyin1998,hewashitandkilledbyatrain(orat
leasthisdeadbodywasfoundbytraintracks).
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Idon'tgethowthere'snomajorsignofstrugglethough.Kurtjustlethiminthehouseandmanagetofindaveinandinjecthim
withheroinandblowhisbrainsout?Idon'tthinkso.Andwhyhiresomeonelikethat.Withthemoneyshehadshecouldhave
goneandfoundsomeoneprofessionaltodoitnotsomescumbag.Alsotheliedetectortestdoesn'tmeanshit.Allhehasto
doisbelievewhathe'stellingthemandbythedocumentaryIsawtheguysfuckinginsaneandaheavyalcoholicandpossible
druggiehimself.
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Caliwaslivingthere,ifhe'sthemurdererthere'snostruggle.Dylansaidhehadneverseenthehousesocleanwhen
theybrokeintolookforhim.Therewasdiazepaminhissystem,somesuspecthisrootbeerwasdrugged.Somesay
Romewasmurderattempt1andtheywantedtomakesureitstuckthistime,hencethegunshot.Nofingerprintsonthe
shotgun,oranythingelse.
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Liedetectortestsarenotaccurateatallandshouldneverbeusedasabasisforyourtheory.Interestingthatyourtheoryhas
nowevolvedfrominvolvingonepersongettingmurderedwithouttherebeingevidence,tonowtherearetwopeoplewhogot
murderedwithouttherebeinganyevidence.
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[] otter111a undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Liedetectorsarealwayssounreliablewhentheydon'tagreewiththenarrativeoneiscurrentlypresentingandsobelievable
whentheydo.
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[] CleansingFlame 257points
ElliottSmithwasmurdered.
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Youmeanyoudon'tbelievethathestabbedhimselfafewtimesinthechest,throughhisleatherjacket,withnohesitationwounds,
tobefoundintheparknearhishousewithasuicidestickynote,inwhichhemisspelledhisownstagename?
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Yestobothofthese.
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NowthisisoneIactuallybelieve.I'lladmitKurtCobainandjimmorrisonsdeathsarefishybutneithercomesclosetoElliotsmith.
andNobodycommitssuicidebystabbingthemselvesintheribs,letalonetwiceandasdeepashiswoundswere.There'salsono
wayhisgirlfriend,whowasatherapistandhadalotoffirstaidtraining,wouldn'thaveknownbetterthantopulltheknifeoutofhim.
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[] Nixus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,itgenuinelysurprisesmehoweveryoneharpsonandonaboutCobainwherethereareafewcircumstantialpointsatbest,
whereastheElliotSmithdeathstinksoffoulplaytohighheavenandnobodyevertalksaboutit.
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[] doctorbooshka undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ehhhislastalbumreallyindicateshewasonthatslope.Honestlythoughifyouhaveevidenceofthecontrarysharethem.Though
heistheposterchildforEmo.
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[] SomeOtherGuysJunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yesandthat'stherealcrimeashewasamuchbetterwriter
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Morelikely.Stabbingyourselfmultipletimesisjustsomethingyoudon'tdo.
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Didnotexpectthisonetobesandwichedbetweenwomen'spocketsandtheelectriccar
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[] vintagesheets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lovethatguy
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Bywhom?Hisgirlfriend?
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ElliottSmithwasaverysadperson.Hissongssoundliketheyaregoingtokillthemselves.
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[] illustribox undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cutthemselveswouldhavebeenabetterpun.
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Badumtsssss!
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Ihaveyettobeconvincedofthis.ThehesitationwoundthingisBS,andifeellikepeoplewhothinkhomicideisjustaslikelyas
suicideinpeoplewithnogangaffiliationsintheir30swithahistoryofdepressionandahistoryofatleastoneothersuicideattempt
havebeenwatchingalittletoomuchlawandorder
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[] JacobJT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msotornbyhisdeath,beingahugeElliottSmithfanmyself.Hehadquitealotofsuicideattemptsbeforehisdeath,butitis
speculatedwhetherornotthosewereactualattemptsofcriesforhelp.ButireadinhisbiographybyBenNugentcalled"Elliott
Smithandthebignothing"thatheapparentlywhenmakingthebasementonthehillalsowasinakindofafunnyplace.Noteating
properlyandotherthings(can'trememberreadityearsago).Butwhatifindsoweirdisjustthewholestoryonherpartimeanitjust
soundssoclichandweirdthewhole"Goestothebathroomafteranargumentandhearsascreamandseesanote"Itsoundslike
somethingfromabadmovie,andnotveryrealistic,furthermorethewholestabbingintheheart,Nomatterhowdepressedandsad
youareifindithardtobelievethatanyonecouldstabthemselvesintheheart,letalonetwice.
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[] No_name_Johnson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heranoffacliffatonepointandwasonlysavedbybeingpartiallyimpailedbyatree,thedudewasclearlysuicidal.
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[] imhigherthanyou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahthere'snowayyoucanrepeatedlystabyourselfintheheart.
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[] ragingcluepromotions undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JenniferChibastillhangsoutbyhismemorialwallallthetimesupposedlyhopingtogetrecognizedbyfans.Ithinkshewantedthe
attentionandsympathyandkilledhimforit.HewascleanfromheroinbyhisdeathIbelieve.Helookedhealthyandhewaswriting
someofthebestmusicofhiscareer.FromABasememtontheHillhas34ofthetop10ElliottSmithtracksonit.
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Umno.
He'dplannedonmeetingwithCharlie(hisstepdad,thefocusofNoConfidenceMan)theweekafterhedied.Anycasual
listenertohisartcantellthathehadsomedeepseatedissueswithhim.
Healsowascleanatthetimeofhisdeath.Afteryearsofnumbingthosememorieswithallsortsofsubstances,he'dquitcold
turkey.Manyofthosememorieswereprobablystartingtofloodbacktohim.Withouthiscopingmechanismshebeganto
makemanyrashdecisions.HeaskedChibatomarryhim.Hewantedtoputoutthedoublealbum.HewantedJonBrionto
mixhisnewrecord(anotherpersonhe'dcutalltieswithyearsprior).HewasrehearsingrelentlesslyforAllTomorrow's
Partiesthenextmonth.HewasputtingalotonhisplateemotionallyandIthinkthatwashisultimatedownfall.
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Imeanwhatwouldyoudoinhisshoesinthatsituation?
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[] sweetjaegs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldn'tstabmyselfinthechest.
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Twice!
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Wellhedidandthere'snogoingbackfromthat.
Thoughofcourseyou'llhavecertainrabidfansarguethathewasmurderedandthisandthatuntiltheendoftime.
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[] jimbosaur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,tobefair,anaddictseemingtohavesuccesswithrecovery,becominghealthyandproductive,onlytobackslideand
overdosewouldhardlybeunprecedented.
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You'rerighthemaynothavestayedofftheheroinbutitmightbeunprecedentedtostabyourselfinthechesttwice.
That'ssomededicationtogoforround2.
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[] vadkert undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottheposteryourespondedto,butit'snotlikeSmith'sdeathwouldbesohardtofathom.Amanwithprior
suicideattemptsrelapsesfromthelongestbitofsobrietyhehadmaintainedinhisadultlife,andoverreactsby
attemptingsuicideagain,unfortunatelysucceeding.
Idon'thaveanopiniononhisdeath,otherthanthatitwassenseless,regardlessofwhathappened.I'mtooclose,
andtoobigofafantomaintainanyneutrality.Thecircumstancestomearen'tconclusive,onewayortheother.
IwillsaythatChiba'shorninginandtryingtoprofitfromSmith'sworkisratherdeplorable.
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You'reabsolutelyrightthatasuicidewithSmithismoreprobablethan99.9%ofpeople.Idon'tthinkits
conclusiveeitherwaybutI'vealwaysbeensuspiciousofChibaandfeellikeshewasn'tlookedintoenough.
InsanelyhugefanhereaswellsoofcourseI'mbiased.
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Chibastrikesmeasasketchyhangeronthattriedtoargue,inacourtoflaw,thatsheandSmithlived
ashusbandandwife,andthathepromisedtotakecareofherfinanciallyfortherestofherlife,and
thatshehadactedashismanagerfrom2000untilhisdeath.Ithoughtshewassomelongtime
partner,buttheyonlydatedthelastyearofhislife.Ittakessomegalltothenturnaroundandsuehis
estatefor15%ofhismoney.(Smith'sfamilyseemslikeshitheadsaswell,butthat'sneitherherenor
therew/r/tChiba.)
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Withasteakknifethatwasneverfound.
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[] _pepe_silvia__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damnthisjustmakesmeevenmoremadaboutit,Ineverknewhewascleanatthatpointinhislife.
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[] riverhouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewascleanandhisinterviewsseemedtoshowamanintriguedbythisdoublealbumhewashardatworkat.
However,hewasaveryunpredictableandmanicdepressiveperson.Idon'tseeanymotivebehindChiba'smurderof
Elliott.FardifferentfromCourtney,whowasfindingoutthatKurtwasdivorcingherandhadalreadyaskedtoremove
herfromthewill.Eliotthadareallyparanoidpersonalityforalongtimewithorwithoutdrugs.Hewastryingtodothat
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finalalbumwithoutDreamworks(hislabel)becausehethoughttheywerefollowinghimandsabotaginghiscareer.Kurt
Cobaincomplainedofstomachissuesforyearsandyears,butclaimedtohavefoundtherightmedstodealwiththat
andmoveonwithhislife.ElliottbeingcleanDOESNOTmeanhehadanymentalstability.
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AsfarasKurtisconcerned,hiswritingsandlyricsmentionedsuicideforyears.Additionally,hehadapriorsuicide
attemptinRome.Itwasn'tanOD.Hehadspecificallyspokenaboutthedangersofmixingalcoholand
opiates/downers.SohisODwithchampagneandrohypnol,withaconfirmationofanotefromGoldMountain,
seemstopushsuicidetoabelievableplace.
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Spoton,tookthewordsrightoutofmymouth.
Smithhadahistoryofsuicidalbehavior,includinghisattemptinNorthCarolina,Ibelieve,wherehejumpedoffa
cliffandwasimpaledbyatree.HearingSmithkilledhimselfisalotlikehearingDavidFosterWallacekilled
himselfyouweresurprised,butonlythatithappenednowofalltimes.Bothmenseemedtohavelostabattle
theywerefightingtheirentirelives.IfSmithlapsedinhissobrietyandoverreacted,well,thatwouldbebehavior
consistentwithhispast.
WithCobain,thewhole'hewassuicidal'thingneverheldmuchwater.Hejustseemedlikeamoody,grumpydude
whohadadrugproblem.AccidentaloverdoseI'dbelieve,buthejustdidn'thavethatdour,torturedfeeltohim.
That'sallrevisionist,latterdayshitlookingback.Theoldsayingaboutanartistwhokilledhimselfwillforeverbe
anartistwhowasdestinedtokillhimself,throughtheirwork.(IE:'Ohmygod,inComeAsYouArehetalksabout
guns!etc.)
I'mnotreallyknowledgeableaboutCobain'scase.OrSmith'sorWallace's,really.Iconsidermyselfhugefansof
theartthesemenproduced,butrealtalk,Ididn'tknowanyofthem,andI'msuremyfanbiascloudsmy
judgement.I'vereadalltheshitthat'soutthere,butmyopinionisn'tworththepaperit'swrittenon,aboutthisstuff.
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[] ozzilla45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KurtCobainhasasong"Ihatemyselfandwanttodie."Hetalkedaboutsuicidealottoo.NotlikeElliottSmith,but
hestilldid.
Idon'tseeevidencetosupportthatElliottwasbipolar.ButKurtobviouslywas.
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Talkedaboutsuicideinsongsorjustineverydaylife?Sayingforyears"pleasedon'tbemadatmewhenit
happens"andhavingaprevious,undeniablylegitimatesuicideattemptisfardifferentthancrypticlyricsin
music.Elliotthadaparanoidschizophrenicthinggoingonlateinhislife.Itallculminatedonarandomnight
duringwhatwouldbeconsideredanormalfightbetweencouples.Kurtwasyoungerandseemedtoactually
enjoytheattentionofbeinga"torturedartist"morethanheletontothemedia.It'sastretchformetosay
that,butSmithwasadifferenttypeofpersonaltogether.Hehadsomelegitmentalissuesthatwere
apparentforyearsandwentbeyondsimpledepressionanddruguse.
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Peoplewithmajordepressioncanexperiencepsychosis.AlsoElliottSmithabusedalotof
amphetaminesandalcoholwhichbothhaveatendencytomakeyougetparanoid.Paranoid
delusionsdon'tnecessarilymakeyouschizophrenic.
I'mnevergoingtobeconvincedthatKurtCobainwantgenuinelydepressedthewholetime.His
personalitythoughseemstohaveaborderlinestreakinitwhichmayhavemadehislyricsaboutit
seemlikemoreofajoke.Thinkofthelyricstopennyroyaltea,milkit,endlessnameless.There'salot
ofgenuineangstandsuicidalideationinthoselyrics.
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Ididn'tmeantoimplyElliottwasliterallyschizophrenic.Heshowedthosetypesofsymptoms
duringsomeofhisworstdrugabusestages,likeyousaid.butnotthroughouthisentirelife.The
lyricsofsongsareoveranalyzed.Obviouslybothoftheseguyslikedtousedarkthemesintheir
musicandElliottwrotesongsaboutseriousdrugabusepriortohavingpersonalexperiencewith
anyseriousdrugabuse.Thatcouldbedeacribedascharacteranalysisandnotjustsongsabout
theirownpersonallives.
Iamasongwriterandhavedrugproblemsmyself,buttoanalyzeallmysongsandmakea
conclusionastomymentalstabilityatanyparticulartimewouldbepossibleandmaybealittle
accurate.ExceptItalsowouldimplythatinfluenceslikeElliottSmithorKurtCobainhaven't
leakedintomypreferenceforlyricalortonalthemesthroughoutmyentirelifedatingbacktomy
childhood.ElliottandKurtbothhadalyricalstylethattheydevelopedoveryearsandyearsand
Idoubttheyputseriousthoughtintoallofthem,consideringtheyweresuchprolificwriters.We
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don'tevenknowaboutwhattypesofmusicKurtwaswritingaroundthetimeofhisdeath,
whereaswedoknowthatElliottwaswritingsomeREALLYdarkandcrypticshitforanalbum
wehaveheardbutwentunfinished.Iamnotreallygoinganywhereinparticularwiththiswhenit
comestomyopinionontheirmurder/suicidepossibilities...butI'dliketomakethepointthat
lyricsandmusicalcontentaren'talwaysaspersonalandmeanttobeanalyzedliterally.That
goesespeciallyforguyswhohadtheabilitytowritesongsveryeasilyanddidn'tneedto
analyzedetailsorthinkmuchtoformulategreatsongsatanymoment.Sorryforthelongpost,
butit'sbeenfunhavingthisdiscussionwithallofyou.
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[] stangold_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihatemyselfandwanttodieisasatiricaltitlethat'spointwastomockthemedia'sportrailofhim
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Themanjokedaboutkillinghimselfalot.Andthenhedid.Ithinkitwasmorethanajoke.Hehada
darksenseofhumor,butultimatelyhestillwassuicidalandselfloathing.
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[] Henry_Cozad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavetoagreewithyouhere.
It'sprobablyhardtostabyourselfinthechestmultipletimes.
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[] The_Indifferent 20points
YeahIfindhisdeathkindaweird.Howdoesonestabhimselfinthehearttwice?
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[] son_nequitur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ittakessomesecondsforyourbloodpressuretodrop,andduringthattimeyourmusclesandbrainareworkingfine.
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Whenhuntersshootananimalintheheart,itstillrunsforafewsecondsbeforedroppingdead(orsoabookaboutakidalone
inthewildernessthatmy5thgradeteacherreadtotheclasstellsme),soIdon'tthinkit'simpossibleforhimtohavedoneit
twiceifhereallywantedtokillhimself,thinkingmaybehemissedthefirsttimeorhadn'tcausedenoughdamage.How
someonestabsthemselftwiceintheheartwithoutanyhesitationwoundswhiletheirgirlfriendissupposedlyoneroomaway,I
dunno...
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Idon'tknow.ButsomeSamuraiwhocommittedseppukuwoulddisembowelthemselvesandthenstabthemselvesthrough
thethroatsoitdoesn'tsoundimpossibletostabyourselftwiceintheheart.
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[] LaoTzusGymShoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsIrecall,itwasselfdisembowlment,withatrustedpersonbehindyoutobeheadyouifthingsdon'tworkout.
Forwomen,theywereexpectedtostandaknifeonendandfallonitwiththeirthroats,IIRC.
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Thatwasoneoption,butifyoudidn'thaveasecondyouwereexpectedto"Intheabsenceofakaishakunin,the
samuraiwouldthenremovethebladefromhisstomach,andstabhimselfinthethroat,orfall(fromastanding
position)withthebladepositionedagainsthisheart."Sosayswikipediaanyway.
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[] RudeCats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oookeydokey
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[] usedOnlyInModeration undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Themanwasaprofoundartist.Whatmoresymbolicwaytoshowthatyourheartisbreaking?
I'vebeenclosetodoingthatmyselfatpointsinmylife.Itmayseemfarfetchedtomost,butIcanseeit.
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[] SPOOFE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heroinandbooze.
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[] accountwasdelete undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Excepttherewasnoheroinorboozeinhissystemwhenhedied.Oranyillegaldrugs.
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Evenworse.thedrugswerenumbinghimtohisdepression.Offofthedrugsmeanshewasnolongernumbtoit
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Thewithdrawalyeah
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Yeah,onedoesn'tneedthosedrugsinone'ssystemtobeaffectedbythem.Yearsofaddictionandabusecan
leavementaldamagelongafterthechemicalsareflushed.
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2/10,poorrecovery.
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Surepal,ElliottSmithhadZEROmentalproblems,sure.)
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Oh,man,youjustcan'tread,canyou?
Damn,nowI'mthejerk,pickin'onsomepoorfoolcan'tevenread.
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[] LunaticalPitties 6points
There'saprettyinterestingdocumentaryaboutitcalledSoakedinBleach.ItsonNetflix.
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[] klsi832 3points
Yep,I'veseenin5times.
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[] unimonkey 13points
GivenhowshittypoliceinvestigationscanbeintostufflikethisIconsideritatleastsomewhatplausible.
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[] temujin64 519points
Idunno,it'snotlikeitwasn'tinhisnature.Hefailedcommittingsuicideafewtimesbeforehand.
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[] Lennon_v2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Henevertriedinthepast,hedoesn'tclaimtohavetried,hisfriendsdon'tclaimit,eventhedoctorsthattreatedhimsaiditdidn't
looklikeasuicideattempt.Peoplebelieveitbecausehiswifewho'sacompulsiveliarsaidso
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Nottrue.
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Hetriedonetimeandtheonlypersonwhothoughtitwasasuicideattempt(thisexcludeddoctorswholookedatthecase)was
CourtneyLove.
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[] KariMil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bandmatesconfirmhewasdepressed.
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[] Tenaciousgreen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Watch"SoakedinBleach,"it'sonNetflix.
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[] liftedtrucksbro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelievethatwasarumorCourtneystartedherself.Hewasneversuicidal.
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That'snotactuallytrue.Severalofhisgood,longtimefriends,includingbandmates,haveclaimedthatKurtWASnotdepressed
andthathewasactuallyaveryhappyman.The"suicideattempt"wherehemixedalcoholandmedswasdeemedaccidentalbythe
attendingdr,andhewasreleasedingoodmentalhealth,notdetainedassuicidalpeopleoftenare.Manypeoplealsocameforward
toexplainthatitwasCOURNTYLOVEwhoclaimeditwassuicideattemptandnooneelse.Shealso,ofherownvolition,filedthe
missingperson'sreportinKurt'smothersnamebecauseshedidn'twantthepublicity.Thereisaprettygooddocumentaryrightnow
onNetflixcalled'SoakedinBleach'bytheprivateeyeshesecretlyhiredtolookforKurtwhenhewasmissing.Thetaped
conversationsbetweenthetwoofthemarequitecompelling.Italsoblowsthelidoffofalotofmisinformthatiswidelyacceptedas
factinthecase.
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[] Mattmenzo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhowshedidntwantthehouseundersurveillanceduringthetimeofthe"Suicide".
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Soundslikethepartthatwasoutofcharacterwasthathesucceeded.
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[] dj_frogman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIfeellikehewasconstantlyonthevergeofkillinghimself,likeitwasn'tevenabigdealtohim.It'sjustthatonetimehe
actuallywentthroughwithit.
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[] donteatmysandwich 1423points
Idon'tunderstandwhypeoplefinditsohardtobelievethatadepressedheroinaddictcouldhavekilledhimself.
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Thesamemanwhoposedwithgunsinhismouthformagazinesandwroteasongcalled"Ihatemyselfandwanttodie"
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[] MirthMannor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknow.Herecordedasongwithasecretmessageinit,sheeple.Listento"IhatemyselfandIwanttodie".It'sallthere!
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[] WhyDontJewStay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausewhynotjustoverdosepeacefullyinsteadofshootingyourself?
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[] scootah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkheprobablypulledthetrigger.Depressedaddictandall.ButIdowonderifLovemanipulatedhimwiththeintentof
creatingthatsituation.
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[] JesteroftheApocalyps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itmusthavebeenallofhisupbeat,happygoluckylyricsthatthrewthemoff.
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It'sbecausesoakedinbleachisonnetflixnow.Everyonewhohadtwohourstospareisconvincedthatthey'reanexperton
Kurtcobainsdeathbecausetheywatcheda90minutedocumentary.
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[] SaxRohmer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eventhoughhewasanaddict,Irememberreadingthathehadafuckingtruckloadofheroininhissystemandthatitwould've
beenincrediblydifficulttostayawareenoughtokillhimselfwithashotguninthewayhehadtohaveifhedidkillhimself.
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[] Wyg6q17Dd5sNq59h undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rightaftershootingup?Thatisnotcommon.Hehad3xthelethaldose,yetstillputallthegearawayandfiredashotgun,
whichsomehowresultedintheshellbeingejectedinthewrongdirection.Suicidenotewasclearlyforged,inmynonexpert
opinion."SoakedinBleach"wasfascinating.
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[] theCHAMPdotcom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Motive:theyhadaprenup,Kurthadvocalizedtohislawyerhewantedandwasgoingtopursueadivorce.Hehadnotspoken
toher(courtney)fordays/weeksleadinguptothemurderirritatingherevenmore.CourtneyLoveinherited,includingfuture
earnings,100sofmillionsofdollarsbecauseofthemurderversushowmuchifshejustgotdivorced?
PropstoCourtney,sheisseeminglyabrilliantyetinsanepersonwhopulledthisoffmasterfullywithveryindepththrough
planning.
Buttherewasclearmotive,negligentinvestigativework,andtonsofothercircumstantialevidencepointingtomurder.
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Hehadanewbaby.Wouldn'tthatmakehimhappier?
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[] sandthefish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldntbesuprisedifhedidkillhimself.ItISimhisnature.Butthenagainidobelievehewasmurdered.Toomany
irregularitiessurroundthatevent.
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Ifindithardtobelievethatsomeoneundertheeffectsofthatmuchheroinwouldbeabletoholdashotgunandshoot
themselvesinthehead.Mostpeopleonthatkindofherointripcan'teventaketheneedlefromtheirarm.
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[] Johnny_Couger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkmostpeoplefinditHARDtobelieve.Ithinksit'smorethatpeoplewanttoblamesomebodyfortakingsomething
thatwasprecioustothem(evenifjustacelebritytheyliked).
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[] TanikaTubman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snothardtobelievetotheskepticsofhissuicide.Asskeptics,itistheavailableinformationandevidencetothecontrary
thatpaintsadifferentpicture,thatisn'tbasedonassumptionsorgutfeelingsaboutKurt.
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[] Coolkat27 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileIobviouslydon'tknowthetruth,Idontseewhypeopleareeveryoneissoagainstthinkingofhisdeathasamurder.
Thereareinaccuraciesinthestoryofhisdeathandsomecompelingevidencethatarepresentedindocumentariessuchas
SoakedinBleachthatshouldbetakenseriously.Ifthereisanydoubtthecaseshouldbereopenedandinvestigated
thoroughlytomakesuretherightcallwasmade.Insistingonhisdeathasonlyasuicideissayingtheothersideiswrongand
isdisregardingtheevidencejustbaseduponyourpersonalbeliefs.
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[] raccoon11jesus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tfindithardtobelieveatall,buttheconspiracytheoryiscompellingaswell.Thosetwoopinionsarenotmutually
exclusive.
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Youhavenotseen"SoakedinBleach"Itakeit?Netflixittonight,it'sawesome.
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[] ProspectiveQuant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfthedocumentarySoakedinBleachisanythingtogoby,thatwasalmostentirelyaliespunbyCourtneyLove.Literallyallof
Kurt'sclosestfriendswhoareinterviewedinitsaidthatitwasaliethatthemediaranwithbecauseitfitthestereotypeofhis
music'simage,andthatitwassomethingCourtneystarted.
IneverevenknewthiswasaconspiracyandjustrandomlywatchedthedoconNetflixtheotherday.Founditfucking
fascinating.
Therearesomanyissueswithallofititdoesn'tseemlikehekilledhimself.Furthermore,heexposesthefactthatLovehad
anincrediblemotive...Cobainwasabouttowriteheroutofhiswill,butinsteadhewasmurderedrightbeforehecouldfinalize
takingherout...soit'snotasiftherewasnomotiveatall.Crazyshit.
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[] Tattered_Colours undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Adepressedheroineaddictwhowantedtotitlehislastalbum"IHateMyselfAndWantToDie."
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I'massumingthey'rethesamepeoplewhofindithardtobelieveTupacwaskilledbecausehegotintoafightwithsome
gangbangers.
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[] vVvMaze undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausepeoplewhodon'thavethefameandmoneythinkthatifyoudohaveityou'lljustautomaticallybehappy.
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Idon'tunderstandwhypeoplefinditsohardtobelievethatadepressedheroinaddictcouldhavekilledhimself,either.
ButIalsodon'tunderstandwhypeoplefinditsohardtobelievethatdepressedheroinaddictthatwasworthavastsomeof
moneymightnotalsobethevictimofamurder,ormurderforhire.
Fortherecord,though,IthinkthatCobainwasresponsibleforhisowndeath.
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[] poeboy22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausehehad3timesthelethalamountofheroinforthemosthardcoreaddictinhissystem.Meaningthathewouldn'tbe
abletoshoothimself.Period.Anotherreasonisthewayheholdsthegun,it'dbeimpossiblefortheshellendupwhereitdid.
Thenote,whichistwocompletelyunrelatedparagraphs.Oh,andbestofall,apracticesheetofsomeonelearningCobain's
handwritingstyle.
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Didn'thealsohavesomekindofdebilitatingstomachcondition?Andwasn'tthatlikelytheoriginalcauseofhisheroine
addiction?
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Heliterallysaidhefeltlikeblowinghisbrainsoutbecausehewouldforcehimselftoeatfood,wouldn'tbeableto,and
justlietherevomitingair.Butinaninterviewhegavefourmonthsbeforehisdeath,hesaidhisstomachpainwasgone
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becausehewasfinallyprescribedtherightmedication(hewasprobablytalkingaboutheroin).
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It'snothardtobelieveatall,whichiswhykillinghimwouldbeprettyeasytogetawaywithifyoudiditright.
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Idon'tthinkpeoplefindithardtobelieveCobainkilledhimself,butCourtneyLoveseemsequallyabletohavekilledhim.
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[] maqqda undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
watchthenewdocumentaryonthesubjectifyouneedconvincing,thereisforensicevidencethatleavesverylittlepossibility
thathekilledhimself
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Montageofheckorsoakedinbleach?
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ithinkitssoakedinbleach
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ImeantheturningpointformewaswatchingtheDocumentarycalled"SoakedInBleach"wheretheP.I.hiredbyCourtney
LovecametotheconclusionthatCourtneyherselforpossiblyahiredhitmankilledKurt.Itwasprettyfascinatingwhenhelaid
outthewebofliesshehadspunandhowoftenshecontradictedherself.Healsorecordedmanyofhisconversationswithher
andthey'replayedthroughoutthedocumentary.
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Yes,Ijustrecentlywatchedthisandthatwholecaseissooofuckedup!!Itwasupsettingtowatch.
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In"soakedinbleach",Courtney'sownlawyerwasrecordedsayingKurtwasfilingfordivorceandwritingheroutofhis
will.Hismoneywasfuelingherdrughabit,andIthinkajunkiewouldbewillingtokilltokeepthegravytrainflowing.It's
honestlyoneoftheonlyconspiraciesthatItrulybelievein.
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ehhthePIhadsomeholesinhistheoryhimself..davegrohlcalledhimoutonhisbullshitandtoldhimKurtkilledhimself
andlethimrestinpeace.
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Themorerecentdocumentarytocomeoutabouthimhasalotofhomemoviesinithewasaclassicheroineaddict.
Notbeingabletostayawakewhilebrushinghisdaughter'shair,etc.heandCourtneywouldprobablyneverbeableto
recountthosedayscorrectly,nomatterhowhardtheytried.
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Ifyouhaveenoughpeoplelookingatrandomfacts,they'lleventuallyfindapattern.That'swhatthehumanbraindoes...
findpatternsinnoise.
Butjustbecauseapatternexistsdoesn'tmeanthereisanythingthere.Youcandumpahandfulofsaltonthetable,and
you'llbeabletofindconstellationsinit.Butthatdoesn'tmeanthestarsaresomehowconnectedtothesalt.
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Watchedittheothernightafterwaitingsolongtowatchit.Somanysuspiciousthings.Thedestroyednote,themelted
downshotgun,thenonmatchinghandwritingonthe"suicidenote"thatonlytalksaboutsuicideinthelast4lines.Idon't
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thinkCourtneykilledhim.IthinkshehiredCalitokillhim.TherewasalsoaguynamedEldon"ElDuche"Hokewhotold
documentarianNickBroomfieldthatheknewwhokilledKurt,andthenhewaskilledbyatrain2dayslater.
it'samysteryforsure.
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That'sthesameguywhosaidCourtneyofferedhim$50,000tokillKurtisn'tit?
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Ithinkso.IoriginallytypedthatCourtneyofferedhimcashtokillKurt,butIcouldn'trememberifthatwas
trueornot,soIjustwrotewhatIactuallyknew.
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Ibelieveitis,I'monmyphonesoI'mtoolazytocheckbutfromwhatIrememberhepassedseveral
liedetectortestswhichisn'tsolidproofasthey'reeveninadmissibleincourtbutitdefinitelyhelpedhis
claimIMO.
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IstartedobsessingovertheCobaindeath/suicide/murderwhenIwasaangstyfreshmaninhigh
schoolintheearly2000s.Tothisday,itstillreallyinterestsme.ButtheolderI'vebecome,the
moreI'vereadaboutCobain,themoreIseeabrokenman.Icanunderstandwhypeoplewould
believehekilledhimself.Buttheamountofheroininhissystemwasinsane.
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Ithinkit'sprettyclearthatCourtneyLovewasabusive.Idon'tthinkthatpeopleatthattimecouldquitegraspthata
womencouldbeabusive.Ithinkwestillhavealongwaytogoonthatoneactually.Ithinksheknewthatsheplayedan
indirectroleinKurtKobainendinghislife,andIthinkshefreakedoutwhensherealizedthateveryonethoughtshe
playedadirectroleinitsoshegotdefensiveandthatdidn'tmixwellwithherdrugproblemsandobviousmental
instability.Shedidn'twantpeopletoknowthatshewasapieceofshitpartnersoshetriedtopaintatotallyunbelievable
pictureofherselfwhichfailedmiserablybecauseshewasalwayshigh,drunk,manic,etc.infrontofcameras.
Ithinkthetruthisthathekilledhimself,butshecertainlyhelpedhimalongbybeingavilewomen.
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[] grambino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhyoutofallthethousandsofterribledecisionsCourtneyLovehasmadedoweassumeshehiredacompetent
investigator?
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DudeactuallyhassomeprettyimpressivecredentialsfromwhatIremember.Thedocumentaryisdefinitelyworth
awatchandisn'tterriblelong.Isuggestcheckingitout.
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[] grambino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veseenit,andhedidn'tconvinceme.RegardlessofanyofthecredentialshemayhavethatIdidn'tcross
check,thereareplentyofeasilyfindablePIsinHollywoodwhowouldsignanNDAandnottakeyourstory
public.ThatdocisliketheleastprofessionalthingaPRIVATEinvestigatorcouldpossiblydo.
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Toeachtheirown,maybeIneedtorewatchitandseewhatIthinkthesecondtimearound.Idoagree
thatitwasunprofessionalonhisparttoreleasethatdocumentarybutatthesametimeifyoutruly
thinkyoudiscoveredamurderandhadsomeevidencetobackupyourclaimthatsuicidewasnot
likelyIdon'tthinkanNDAwouldstopyoufromreleasinginformationregardingthecase.
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[] catfishsam13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasdefthatnannythatwasherexbf,shedidn'twanttoloseeverythinginthatdivorce,Kurtwasdonewiththat
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trashybitch
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Ihaven'tseenit.WhatkindofproofdoestheP.Ishowtosupporthisclaims?
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Tonsofaudio,policerecords,friends/familystatements.
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HehasaudiorecordingsofalmosteveryphoneconversationhehadwithCourtney.IIRChewasalsoapolice
detectivebeforehewenttotheprivatesectorandsaidtheinconsistenciesinherstoryseemedeerilysimilarto
previoushomicidecaseshehadworkedasadetective.Ihaven'tseenitsinceitcameoutsoIcouldbemistaken
butit'sdefinitelyworthawatch.
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Thewebofliestoldbyyetanotheraddictandemotionallyfuckedindividual.Meh,bothwereterrible,sucksaguydied.
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"Documentary"
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[] MrsBooky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustwatchedthis,andIamnowthoroughlyconvincedthatitwasamurderandnotasuicide.Betweenallofthelies
andinconsistenciesinCourtneyLove'sstories,theintentional"stories"sheleakedtoplantthesuicideidea,andthe
horribleineptitudeoftheSeattlepolicedepartment,itwasmostlikelymurder.
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[] organade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybehecouldn'tgothroughwithithimselfandhiredsomeonetokillhim.Maybeshewastheone,ormaybehe
confidedinherandshe'scoveringthekiller'sassforherownsake.
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[] ThePrimeRadiant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireallyenjoyedthatone.Therewasanotherdocumentaryreleasedaroundthesametimeabouttheexactsamething.
Exceptitwasmoreinfavorofsuicide,seemedprettytimelytohaveacounterargumentdocumentaryreleasedright
afteronethatpointsalotoffingersatCox.Likesomeonedidn'twantSoakedInBleachtogounchecked,butwhowould
careifitwasjustaboutasuicide.
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Whatamassivebackfireholyshit.BoldmovetohireaPIinthatcase.
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ThatwasareallygooddocandinmyeyesCourtneydughergravedeep.
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Obviouslynot,becausestressfilthyrichandfree
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Sheisfreebecausesheisfilthyrich.
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She'sfreebecausethepoliceneverbotheredtolookintoanythingotherthansuicide.Hewasajunky,
itlookedlikeasuicide,soitwas.Idon'tthinkhermoneyplayedapart.Ithinkhissocialstandingas
anaddictdid.
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Definitelynotdenyingthat..I'veheardofmanypayoffsthroughouttheyearsthough.
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Youmeantheotherheroinaddicttoldalotofstoriesandwasn'treliable?Shocking.
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No,Idon'tbelievetheP.I.wasaheroinaddict.Justsomeonethatstoppedacceptingpaymentsfromaclientto
turntheinvestigationtowardthemsincehefeltsostronglytheywereguilty...
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[] iphoton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'slikeyoupeoplehavenevermetaheroinaddict.Justbecausetheyuseopiatesdailydoesn'tmaketheman
incompetentpathologicalliarwhoisincapableofeventellingthetruthwhentheywantto.
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[] quantumregulator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Verytrue.Butwhenyouarereallyhighatthetimesometimesyoudon'tmakemuchsense.Youare
noddingoutandinandoutofdifferentthought.Source:Recoveringheroinaddict.Idoagreethough,forthe
mostparttheyareprettynormalseemingpeople.Butsometimeswhenyouhaveunlimitedmoneyandare
inthemiddleofabadbingeyoukindofgetalittlenutty.
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Imassumingyoudoheroinonthereg
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[] Lillyville undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butitdoesmaketheiraccountoftheeventsalotlessreliable.
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Tobefairshewasajunkeytoowasntshe?Iseenjunkeyswhocouldntformcoherentsentences.Hercpntradiciting
herselfwouldbenothingnewforsomoneonalotofdrugs.
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was
*is
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SorrybutI'mnotconvincedbyoneguyhavingtherevelationthathewasmurderedwhenalmostuniversalopinion
amonginvestigatorsandKurt'sownfriendsisthathecommittedsuicide.
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sayingthatbeforehavingseenit?smh.
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Documentarycalled"SoakedInBleach"wheretheP.I.hiredbyCourtneyLovecametotheconclusion
thatCourtneyherselforpossiblyahiredhitmankilledKurt
Youdon'tneedtoseethedocumentarytoknowandunderstandthisargument.I'mwellawareofTom
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[] GrumpyFalstaff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyouwatchedit?HetalkstoabunchofKurt'sfriendsaboutitandbasicallygetstheSeattlepolicechieffrom
thattimetoadmittheyfuckedtheinvestigationup.Idon'tknowifhe'srightbuthemakesahellofacase.It's
worthawatchanyway.
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Ihaven'tyet,butit'sonmytowatchlistifonlyjustbecauseeveryoneonhereisconvincedit'sgospel.
Anyways,IjusthaveahardtimebelievingTomGrant.HesuspectedCourtneyfromthebeginningandhas
beenmilkingitforfameeversince.
Justrememberthatdocumentariesarenotevidenceofanything.They'rewrittenanddesignedtobe
convincing.HowmanytimesdothoseBigfootdocumentariesonDiscoveryfindsomething,yettheymake
moneybecausetheyleaveyouthinkingsomethingmightbeoutthere.ThisisjustanotherBigfoot
documentaryandbuyingintothehypeisjustlendingcredencetoatwentyoneyearoldtheorythatwasn't
takenseriouslyatthetimeitwasdeveloped,andthepersonwhocreatedithasn'tmovedonsince.
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NoIknow,andIgetthat.I'lladmitIdon'tknowmuchaboutthecasebutIthoughtthefilmmadesome
interestingpoints.I'dlovetoseesomeonegothroughanddebunkitthough.
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I'mhonestlyconsideringgivingitashot,Ijustdon'tknowthatthere'dbeanypointtoit.OrthatI
wouldbeconvincingatall.
What'smorefrustratingtomeisitsoundslikethefilmjustmakesallthesamepointsthathave
beentalkedaboutonlineforadecadenowandpeopleonlyusethemas"evidence"because
nowadocumentarymentionedthem.I'llwaituntilIwatchit,though,toreservefinaljudgmenton
thatmatter.
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Thethingthatgetsmeiswhenshepointedoutthatifshehadwantedhimdead,shecouldhavejustlethimoverdose
insteadofsavinghim.
SoakedinbleachisonmyToWatchlistthough.
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Shesaidshethoughthewasdeadwhenshecalledforanambulance.
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Exceptshedidn'thaveaccesstohimafterhedecidedhewantedadivorce.
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Seriously.IwasalwaysundertheimpressionhekilledhimselftilIsawthis.Reallyeyeopening.Makesherbehavior
afterthemurder(suicide)waymoresuspicious.
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Readhisjournal.Hehadlotsofsuicidalthoughts.
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Hedidn'tthough.Hehadafuckloadofshitabouthowmuchhehatedthemusicbusiness/fameandwanted
out.
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WatchSoakedinBleach.Thentalklet'stalkmoreaboutit.I'mahugeNirvana/Cobainfan.I'vereadpretty
mucheverything.Listenedtoeverything.AndI'mtellingyouthatdocumentarychangedmyviewinthe
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situation.
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Asahugefan,youshouldknowthattheinfoinitisnothingnew,exceptforthebiasoftheauteur.
TomGranthadbeentellinganyonewhowilllistenfor20years.Butthedocisabitheavyhanded.
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Iwasbornin90'dude.
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[] Tfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samehere.Ithoughtthemurderstoryhadalwayssoundedlikesomethingthatwasmaybealittlefar
fetcheduntilIsawthatdocumentary.
Ithinkifthiswouldhavehappenedinanyothertownshemighthaveattheveryleastbeenbroughtin
asaprimarysuspect.
LookslikeshegotrealluckywithasloppymurderandthePolicedon'thaveaninterestinlookingover
thecaseagainbecauseitwouldmakemorethanafewpeopleintheirdepartmentlookwildly
incompetent.
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[] PeopleEatingPeople undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Courtneyherselfwasprettydruggedup.Idon'tthinkshecankeepastorystraightevenifshewasn'tlying.
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ThecomplacencyoftheSeattleP.D.wasshocking.
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That'swhatshewantedpeopletothink.
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Allsheneededtodowasgivesomeonemoneyandhavethemworkoutallofthedetails,it'snotlikesheneeded
toknowthestory.
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Shecouldn'tkeepKurt'shandwritingstraight,thatpracticesheetofhissignatureinherpursewashorriblydone
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[] PeopleEatingPeople undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kurthaddrugsinhissystemwhichwouldprobablymakehishandwritingdifferentthefurtherhegotunder
theinfluenceofthemwhilewritingtheletter.
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[] stairway2evan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah.Idon'thaveanespeciallystrongpositiononthisoneIhonestlythinkeithercouldbetrue.Buttome,that
documentarywasnotverywelldone.Somanysegmentsendedwiththeguysaying"CourtneyLovetoldmethis,
THENshetoldmesomethingdifferent!Clearly,she'scoveringupamurder!"
Or...Shewasaheroinaddict.Idotthinkthey'reespeciallyknownforhonesty,clarity,orflawlessrecollection
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Soifsomeoneisamurdererandtakesheroinsuddenlyheisnotguilty?
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[] stairway2evan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WheredidIsaythat?AllIsaidwasthere'smorethanonepossiblereasonwhyCourtneyLovehad
troubletellingastraightstory.
It'spossibleshewascoveringupamurderconspiracy.It'sjustaspossiblethatshewasondrugsand
thereforebadattellingthestory.Honestly,bothcouldbetrueatonce.Butyoucan'tjustassumethat
she'sguiltybasedonthatevidence,becausethere'sotherperfectlyreasonableexplanations.
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IspoketooneofhermanagersonceandCourtneywouldcallherinthemorningandsay,"WhereamI?Ohshit
I'minMiamiokbye."
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[] ijoefrfk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sagoodpoint.Thethingthatgetsmeisapparentlytheamountofheroininhissystematthetimewould
makehimunabletoshoothimself.
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[] quantumregulator undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellheroinaddictshaveaveryhightolerancetoheroin.Theydon'tknowhowhighistolerancewas.Foran
addictyoudothedosethatcouldkillthreepeopleeveryday.
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Theamountofherointhatwouldkillafirsttimeuserwithlittletonotolerancecouldverywelldonothingto
anaddictwithamassivetolerance.
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[] Tfish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inthedocumentarytheyhadaforensicsexpertwhosaidthattheamountthatwasclaimedtohave
beeninhissystemwasdozensoftimestheamountitwouldtaketokillanormalperson,andatleast
3timestheamountrequiredtokillapersonatKurt'sassumedleveloftolerance.
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Interesting,butunfortunatelyit'sonlyhis"assumed"leveloftolerance.Theydon'tknowhow
muchhewasusingonaregularbasisdothey?
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[] TheyCallMeJonnyD undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whataboutthe"suicidenote".Theonlybitthatsoundedsuicidalwasthelastthreelineswhichnobody
knowswhowrotethemastheyweren'tinthestylethatKurtwrotetherestoftheletterwith.Nottomention
thatbeforethelastfewlines,itwasanapologyfromKurttohisfansandhisintentionstoleaveNirvana.
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[] NannersForYou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inthesoakedinbleachmovietheyweresayinghowapieceofpapercameupwheresomeonewas
tryingtocopykurtshandwritingandthreelastlinesdidnotreallylooklikehisbutastrongattemptat
makingitlookthatway.
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That,andthe"suicidenote"wasnottherethefirsttimetheylooked(afterCobaindied,
obviously).Itmysteriouslyappearedunderapillowwheretheyhadalreadylooked.
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IwatchedthatdocumentaryandalotofhissuspicionisraisedfromCourtneywasobviouslytryingtohidecertain
facts.Shewasaddictedtoheroinandconstantlydoingillegalthings.Ofcourseshe'sgoingtomakeupsome
facts,saysomeshadyshit,andnotkeepherstorystraight.TherewasonepointwhenthePIgotsuspiciousthat
Courtneydidn'twantsurveillanceonherownhome.Hewastryingtofigureoutwhatshewastryingtohide.He
P.I.,shewastryingtohidethatshewasdoinglotsandlotsofheroin.
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Ithinkit'spossiblethathewasmurdered.Ithinkit'spossiblehekilledhimself.ButIfeellikeherinabilityto
keepherstoriesstraight,andtheirfriendsweirdbehaviorisn'treallygoingtoswayme.They'realldrug
addicts,severedrugaddicts.That'lleffectyourbehavior
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[] unoriginalsin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'realldrugaddicts,severedrugaddicts.That'lleffectyourbehavior
Youreallymeant"affect",butIthinkinthiscase"effect"worksironically.
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Thetapeshehasofhershowsamindsurprisinglygoodatcomingupwithschemes,likeherplanting
thestoryaboutherbeinginthehospital,butleavingitvagueenoughtobecontrolledbyherlateron.
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Thissomuch.Howcanyoutrustanyofthem?Theywereallinaopiateinducedhazepracticallyallof
thetime.
Ithinkit'spossiblehewasmurdered,andit'salsopossiblehecommittedsuicide.
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[] urboro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwatchedthemovie,butI'dactuallysayjustreadingTomGrant's"SummaryofEvents"ismorecompelling.Themovie's
dramatizationsalmostscrewupthefactsthatMr.Grantlaysout(basicallycircumstantialevidenceCourtneyknewKurt's
locationwhilemakingalarge,publicshowofnotknowingKurt'slocation):
http://www.cobaincase.com/events.htm
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AsI'mreadingthatlinkI'msurprisedandsaddenedthatsomanypeoplearoundtheirliveswereaddicts.Iwas
readingandsuddenlyislike"andCaliwenttorehab",and"CourtneygaveDylanaheroinfix".Plus,asIreadthis
I'mwonderingwherewasFrancesduringallofthis.
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ThisistheexactlinkIgotowhenI'mtryingtoconvincepeople.It'sshocking.PeoplesayCourtneywon'tsue
Grantbecausehe'snevercomeoutandsaidshekilledKurt.Thisisonhismainpage,youbarelyevenhaveto
scrolltogettoit'Afterseveralmonthsofintensiveinvestigation,includingdozensoftapedinterviewswith
Cobain'sclosestfriendsandfamilymembers,IreachedtheconclusionthatCourtneyLoveandMichaelDewitt,
(themalenannywholivedattheCobainresidence),wereinvolvedinaconspiracythatresultedinthemurderof
KurtCobain.'
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[] sickpebbles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausethere'stoomuchevidenceprovinghedidn'tkillhimself.
PleasewatchSoakedinBleach.
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[] klsi832 14points
Formeit'snotamatteroffindingithardtobelieve.It'smorethatwhenyoulookatwhatTomGranthastosay,therewas
somethingfishygoingon.IhadnoproblembelievingitwassuicideuntilIlookedintoit.
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Similartome.Ihavenoproblembelievingthathecouldhavekilledhimself,buteverythingsurroundingitisalittletoo
fishy.EspeciallyallCourtneyhasdoneafterthefact.http://imgur.com/Yn1do54
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[] Nadaplanet 167points
Becausehe'sanicon,andpeopledon'tliketobelievebadthingsaboutpeopletheylike.
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Idon'tfinditbad,Ifinditsad.Hewasinpain,selfmedicating,andcouldhavebenefitedfromasanehealthcaresystem.
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[] sapandsawdust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sreallycrazytomethatpeopleLOVESidViciousandHATECourtneyLove.
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[] billybeer55555 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,justlookattheCultofJohnLennon.Guywasatotalandcompleteasshole.
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aaaaaaandit'sreallyeasytohatethepersontheyaccuseofdoingit.
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CoughYokoOnoCough
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[] alivingnarwhal 3points
Iknow,but,andcorrectmeifI'mwrong,wasn'tonehalfofhisnotewrittenindifferenthandwritingorsomething?
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NahmostoftheexpertsconsulteddeterminedeitheritwasKurtCobainorthatthedifferencewasn'tbigenoughtoknow
forsure.
It'saredherringanyways.Someonewhowroteasuicidenotewouldn'twritehalfofitinadramaticallydifferenthand.
It'salsolikelyhecouldhavewrotepartofthenote,shottheheroin,andthenwrotetherestwhileinsanelyhigh.
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Handwritingexpertsareonlyusefulforfollowingtheexactcurveofaknownsignature.Theycan'tdetermineiftwo
differenthandwritingsaredonebythesameperson.
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Hecouldnothavedoneanythingwhilethathigh.Theamountofheroininhissystemwasinsane.Toshootit,put
hisheroinitaway,writetherestofthenoteandshoothimselfwouldnotbepossible.
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Hecouldnothavedoneanythingwhilethathigh.
Ichallengeyoutoprovethis.
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IcouldreallygoeitherwayonwhetherornotIthinkhekilledhimself(hewasobviouslysuicidal,but
thereistoomuchevidenceagainstCourtneytoignorethepossibilityoffoulplay,inmyopinion),but
cobaincase.comlaysoutwhyalotofthesupportersforthistheoryseethedrugsfoundinhissystem
tobeamajorredflag:
Cobainwasinjectedwith3timesalethaldoseofheroin!
Cobain'sheroin,(morphine),bloodlevelwas1.52mgsperliter.Thiswouldrequireaminimum
injectionof225mgsofheroin,threetimesalethaldose,evenforahardcoreheroinaddict.The
drugDiazepam,wasalsofoundinCobain'sbloodsystem.
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Theobviousquestions:
IFCobaininjectedthreetimesalethaldoseofheroin,COULDhethenpickupashotgun
andshoothimself?Wouldn'thehavebeenimmediatelyincapacitated?
Basedontheheroin,(morphine),bloodlevelsfoundinCobain'sbody,preliminaryresearch
indicatesKurtCobainwouldhavebeenalmostimmediatelyincapacitated.Hecouldnothave
pickedupthatshotgun.Hecouldnothavepulledthattrigger!
IfCobaininjectedhimselfwithadeliberateheroinoverdose,whywouldheALSOshoot
himselfintheheadwithashotgun,leavinghisbabydaughtertheloveofhislifewith
horrificvisualimagestorememberhimby?Whynotjust"gotosleep"ontheoverdoseand
neverwakeup?
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[] SometimesIArt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IFCobaininjectedthreetimesalethaldoseofheroin,COULDhethenpickupashotgun
andshoothimself?Wouldn'thehavebeenimmediatelyincapacitated?
Iamreallycuriousaboutthis,actually.I'veneverdoneheroinbutfromwhatIunderstandaren't
youjustuselessforagoodchunkoftimeaftershootingit?Like,inamatterofseconds?
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Thisisn'tprovinganythingthough.Theygooffwhattheminimumdeadlydosewouldbefora
nonaddict(75mgorso,fromwhatI'veseen/read/heard).Theyalsohavealotofconjecture
aboutthingslike"immediatelyincapacitated"andthenplayonemotionsthroughthepartabout
Cobain'sdaughter.Trustme,someonewhoisgoingtocommitsuicideprobablydoesn'tcare
howtheirchildthinksofthemafterthey'redead.
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ObviouslyI'mnotgoingtogoinjectsomeheroinandthenshootmyselfwithashotgun.
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[] 5cBurro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SometimesIquestionyourcommitmenttoSparkleMotion.
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Themajorityofthenotehasnothingtodowithsuicideandsoundslikeabunchofsentencesstrungtogetherabouthow
hedidn'tlikeperforminganymore(whothefkillsthemeselbezbecausetheydon'tgetasexcitedtogoonstageas
FreddyMercurydid?)Thelinesatthebottomaremuchbiggerandaretheonlyonesthatreferencedeath.Some
handwritingexpertssaythereareadozendifferencesinthoselinesthatmayindicatetheywerewrittenbysomeone
else.AlthoughtoplayDevil'sadvocate,whywouldsomeoneforgelinesandmakethembiggerthantherestofthenote,
thatdoesn'tmakesense.Anditwasaddressedtohischildhoodimaginaryfriend(thatline'salsobigger).
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Hedidinterviewstalkingabouthowonedayhewantedtobeasingersongwritertype,anddoacousticstuff.I
thinkthat'swherethatletterwasgoing
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[] klsi832 67points
That'sdebatable.NoonecalledwhathappenedinRomeasuicideattemptuntilafterhisdeath.
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Uhh,yeahtheydid.
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Umm,no,theyactuallydidn't.Butoncehedied,allthebooksandanythingCourtneyLovefundedputsKurtwassuicidal
foralongtimespinonthings.
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MaybeI'mwrong.Buteveryonewholoves/lovedKurtCobainshouldwatchSoakedInBleach.It'sonNetflixnow.It
honestlyblewmymind.
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Ithonestlyblewmymind.
Nicechoiceofwords,dude.
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Livedit.Yestheydid.HedeliberatelytriedtoODandthat'swhatwasreported.Lotofpeopledidn'twantto
believeit,butthedudewasspiralingrightinfrontofoureyes.
Letmeputitthisway,whatdidCourtneygainwithKurt'sdeath?Nothing.Shehadalotmoretogainfromhim
aliveevenifshewantedtodivorcehim.Theywerejustacoupleoftalenteddrugaddictsthatlostcontrol.
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Hisentireestate.Hewantedadivorcewhichwould'veleftherwithnothing.
MotiveisNOTthemissingpiece.
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Notnothing.Shehadarespectablemusicandfilmcareer.
Youalsohavetorememberprenupsaren'tsoironcladwhenchildrenenterthepicture.Shewould
haveendedupwithalotofmoneyinadivorce.
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AnythingshehadonherownispeanutscomparedtoKurt.Theprenup/divorcedetailscouldbe
debated,butdon'ttrytoactlikeCourtneyLove's"respectable"careerwasanythinglikeKurt's
fromamonetaryperspective.
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Actuallyshegainedmillionsofdollars.Hewantedadivorce,butafterhisdeath,theprenupwasnulland
void,therebyallowinghertogethisfortune.
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Prenuponlyaccountsformoneymadebeforethewedding.Nirvanamademostoftheirmoneyafter
February241992,asTeenSpiritdidn'tevenbecome#1onbillboarduntillate1991.
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Please,watchSoakedInBleach.Notsayingthatthedocumentaryisuniversaltruth,butIthinkit'llchange
yourmindaboutalotofthings.
KurtwasabouttodivorceCourtney.Theyhadaprenupandshe'dbeleftwithnotmuchmoney.Withhim
deadasamarriedcouple,sheinheritedapotentiallybilliondollarentity.
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[] okrolling undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shegainedtherightstoallthemusicforthefollowingyears.Hewastakingheroffthewill.....orsomething
likethat
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Recordcompanyownsthesongsunlessyoubuythembacklater.Anymoneyhewouldhavemade
wouldbeonthetableinadivorce,sothatdoesn'tpanoutasmotive.
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No.Theyowntherecording.Notthesong.
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Nobodycalleditsuicideaftereither.Butthedoctorisonrecordassaying"hemaynothavebeentryingtocommitsuicide,but
youdon'ttake50pillswithouthavingacertaindisregardforyourlife."
Paraphrased.
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Idon'tknowwhereyougetthatinfo.InSoakedinBleachitspecificallytalksabouthowtheyinterviewedthatdoctorand
heneverthoughtofitasasuicideattempt,andhedidn'thavenearly50pillsinhissystem.
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[] sadistic_cat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butwhywouldthey?Hewasacelebrityandthat'saveryprivatematter.Iguaranteethereareloadsofcelebritysuicide
attemptsouttherethateithernobodyknowsaboutorwereannouncedassomethingaltogetherdifferent.
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[] BallardLockHemlock 1231points
ByKurtCobain.You'dshootyourselftooifyoufoundoutyouweremarriedtoCourtneyLove.
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[] ToPimpAButterfree undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mydad'sfavoritejoketotellatdinner
"WhydidKurtcobainkillhimself?
HaveyoueverseenCourtneyloveinthemorning?"
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[] Freakngoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Curthaddandruff.Theyfoundheadandshouldersallovertheplace.
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Ineverknewmuchabouthimorher,what'ssobadabouther?
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[] OakenBones 7points
WhatwasthelastthingtogothroughKurt'smind?
Theroofofhismouth.
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HowdoesKurtcollecthisthoughts?
Withasqueegee
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[] scottydoeskno 653points
DidyouknowKurtCobainhadblueeyes?Oneblewthiswayandoneblewthatway.
(It'sfunnierinperson,can'treallytypeitout.)
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WhatdidCourtneysaytoKurtrightbeforesheshothimintheface?
Hole'sgonnabehuge.
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IrememberthatonewithastronautsafterChallenger.
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[] Kabooshkrinkle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IusethisforChallengerjokes
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Idontgetit:(
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[] Deadringer14 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theword'blue'inEnglishsoundsexactlythesameastheword'blew'.So,thejokestartsbysayingthatKurtCobain's
eyeswere'blue',makingthepersonthinktheyarereferringtothecolourofhiseyes,thenswitchesandstatesthat
"...oneblewthiswayandoneblewthatway.",revealingthattheywereactuallydescribingwhathappenedtohiseyes
whenheshothimselfintheface,thattheywereblowninoppositedirections.Thereasonitdoesn'tworksowellintext
isbecauseyouhavetochange'blue'inthefirstsentenceto'blew'inthesecondforittomakesense,whereasifyou
weresayingittherewouldbenowayfortherecipientofthejoketotellwhichwordyouwereusinguntilthepunchline.
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[] badabingbadabung undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ahright,thatmakesmoresense:)tyty
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Didyouknowheuseda16gaugeshotgunthatdidn'taffecthisfacialfeaturesatall
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[] slowitdown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithoughtsotoo,untillastyearwhenSeattledetectiveMikeCiesynskidescribedthecrimescenephotostoareporter.
WhatarepeoplegoingtogainfromseeingpicturesofKurtCobainlayingonthegroundwithhishairblownback,
withbloodcomingoutofhisnoseandtraumatohiseyesfromapenetratingshotgunwound?Howsthatgoingto
benefitanybody?
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[] NateSucksFatWeiners undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Insoakedinbleach,onNetflix,Iforgotwhoexactlysaiditbutsomeonesaidyouwouldbeabletorecognizehim
easily.I'msurehiseyesmighthavebeenbulgingalittle.
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.20
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OkdidyouknowKurtCobainhadbluebrains?
Someblewthiswayand...Ah,fuckit.
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[] mysterious_baker 936points
DidyouknowKurtCobainhadblueeyes?
Oneblewthisway(>'.')>andoneblewthatway<(''<)
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[] _shredder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youwin.
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Areyouitalian?
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Yourskillforexplainingthingsontheinternetisalmostimpressiveenoughtobealittlewierd...
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[] hes_a_newt_Jim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justtoldmyhusband.IthinkIhavetosleeponthecouch.
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Itlookslikeyourtwofigurinesarecoveringtheirears
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Kirby'sJokeTrap!
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Thisactuallyhelpedmegraspthejoke,I'mslowtoday
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[] finigian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onebleweastandoneblewwest.
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[] PacSan300 1073points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IraqWarwasaboutoil,period.TheBushadministrationwasapparentlyplanningtoinvadeIraqandtakeoutSaddamHusseinbefore
9/11.
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[] ld987 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibuytheideathatitwasmorethanoil,itwasalsocapital.Everyonewithseriousmoneytiedupintheregiontransferreditoutofthere
andinto(amongotherplaces)EuropeandtheUSoncethewardestabilizedthings.Thenthere'salsothemoneytobemadeequipping
andsupplyingfirstaninvasion,thenanoccupationandfinallyapuppetstate.Warisaracket.
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[] Fenixx117 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIraqLiberationActwasvotedonunanimouslybytheUSCongress5yearsbefore9/11.ItwasnotaBush/Cheneyconspiracybut
ratherofficialUSforeignpolicytoinvade
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[] Ninebreaker9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butwefoundmoreoilhere(NorthDakotaithink)thanwedidinallofIraq.
Wasthattheintent?Wellthat'spossiblesure.Itwasstillacolossalfailure
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Peoplestillthinkoilwastheendgame?Hilarious.Thisiswhynoontakesconspiracytheoriesseriously.Noticehowwe'restillthere,
fightingthenewboogeymanISIS?Alsonoticehoweveryoneonredditwhowassuchaconspiracytheorist,soagainstthewarinIraq,
arenowsilentandsupportiveonthesamesubject,justbecausethepresidenttheyvotedfornowrunstheshow?It'sstillthesame
show,stillthesameendgame.Itwasneveraboutoil,itwasaboutcontinuingawar.It'saboutcontrol.It'sabouthavingacommon
enemysothatwhoeverisinpowercandowhattheywant,spendwhattheywant,andspyonwhotheywantwhilebeingabletoblame
the"terrorism!"boogeymanacrossthesea.Theeasiestpartisallyouhavetodoisswitchoutwho'sinpower,andonlyhalfoftheidiots
inthecountrywillbeangry.Theotherhalfwillblindlysupportit,becauseit'swhattheyvotedfor.
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Ok,soifitwasthenwhat?
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Ifitwaswereallyfuckeditup,becausetheyvastlyunderutilizetheiroilcapacity,someofitisbeingsoldtofundISISforgodsakes,
andtherestgoestoChina
Clintoncouldn'tgetabjwithoutpeoplefindingout,butsomehowI'mtobelieveBushmastermindeda4trilliondollaroilcaperwhenhe
couldn'tevenfigureouthowtoeatapretzel
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[] FireFoxG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thecontractsforthewarsafter9/11areabout3xthecombinedglobaloutputvalueofoilperyear.andprobablymillionsoftimesthe
combinedvalueofallIraqioiloutput.
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?product=oil&graph=production
At$45abarrel,theannualglobaloutputisworth~1,235,800,575,000dollars.
Ifanything,itwastoenrichtheMIC...SomethingthatasittingUSpresident(Ike)warnedusabout.
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[] returned_from_shadow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Meh,waymoremoneywasearnedthroughwagingthewarandrebuildingcontractsthanwaseverpossiblethroughIraqioil.
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[] jimbles1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butgaspricesaresohigh...
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DickCheneywasn'tjustaffiliatedwithoilinterests.He'stheformerCEOofHalliburtonandatthetimewasstillontheboardof
directors.Ohyeah,andBush'sbrotherwasthedirectorofStratesec,whichwasinchargeofsecurityoftheWorldTradeCenteron
9/11.
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[] norulers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Almostright.Itwasn'taboutoilperseitwasabouttheworldbuyingandsellingoldwithdollars.Sadamwasthreateningtostartbasing
oldsalesonEurosorgold.Ifthathadcometopass,thatwouldhavebeenthebeginningoftheendofthedollarandoftheUSA.
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Itwasn'tabouttheoil.Theoilwasthecoverforallthemilitarycontractsbush/Cheney'sfriendsgotloadedoffof.Theyliterallystoleoue
taxmoneyrightfromunderoureyesbypaddingandoverpricingeverythingmassively.Biggestfraudscaminthehistoryofthethe
world.
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[] Enlightnd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcanmakethat'yearsbefore9/11'.
Recentlythere'sbeeninformationleaksrelatedtoTonyBlairthatwereshowingcommunicationsaboutthatlongbefore9/11ever
happened.
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[] dacrazyworm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheUnitedStatesgetthemajorityofitsoilfromWesternHemispheresources.TheIraqwarwasmuchmoreaboutkeepingIranin
check.
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Occam'sRazor.
Thisoneistrue.
Well,that,andhisdadwantedtofinishwhathestarted.
Butitsnotlikewedidn'tknowitsaboutoil,itwaspartoftheconversation.Oilwasconsideredafactorinnationalsecurity.Itwas
broughtupinthejustificationsandthenarrativeleadinguptotheinvasion.Iremember.
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I'mastoundedthatthiskindofthingsareconsideredconspiracytheoriesamongAmericans.
Talkaboutmediablindedpeople.
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[] retardyordle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thats,thatsaconspiracy?!
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[] new_word undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Halliburton
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"Neverletagoodcrisisgotowaste."
Churchill
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[] klarno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatdoyoumean"apparently"?IseemtoremembertopplingSaddamHusseinwasoneofhiscampaignplanks.
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[] totaled_cds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherewasadocumentthatwassimilartothisbackintheJFK/CubadayscalledOperationNorthwoods.IwouldlinkitbutI'mon
mobile.TheWikipediapagehasaprettygoodexplanationonitthough.
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[] stoicsmile undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Before9/11theBushadministrationpubliclydownplayedSadamHusseinasathreat.
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[] crackmasterslug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileIthinkoilwasn'teverything,Idefinitelyagreeitwasamassivepart.Ithinkanothermajorparttotheoilconspiracywasn'tjust
supplybutthatIraqstartedtoselltheiroilintheeuroinsteadofthedollar.Iwroteapaperonitforawritingclasslastyear,andtheUS
"petrodollar"givesatonofbenefitstoUSeconomyanddominanceabroad.CheckforthepetrodollaronWikipedia,itsprettyinteresting
stuff.AlsoacoolbookbyWilliamClarkcalledPetrodollarWarfarethattalksalotabouttheIraqwarinrelationtooil
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Yes,Iremembermanyarticlespointingtowardsaniraqinvasionplanpublishedbefore9/11/01.It'sclearthattheywerealwaysgoingto
doit.Peoplewhowon'tadmititarejustbeingshitheads.
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[] DeeCeee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YetAmericancompanieshavealmostnointeresttodayinthoseoilfields.TheyareownedandcontrolledbyIraq.Youbelievewe
startedawartocontroloilyetgavecontrolbackthemomentwegotit?O.K.
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[] Qualmeisters undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nokidding....Thisissoblatantitcan'tbecalledaconspiracy.
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[] EntropyFighter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'renotgoingfarenough.Itwasthreethings:Oil,water,andastrategiclaunchingpointformissiles.Thefirstisyourpointsobears
noexplanation.ThesecondiscontrolovertheTigrisandEuphrates.There'sbeenalotofdiscussionofthecomingwaterwars.Why?
Becauseyou'vealreadyseenone.Thirdlyisthemissilespoint.FromIraqtheUScanhitanyenemywithinseveralthousandmiles.It
servesastrategicmilitarypurposeinthelargerregion.
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[] caldera15 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
um,thisisnotaconspiracy,theyputinwritingadocumentcalledtheProjectforaNewAmericanCentury.Theyeventalkedabout
needinga"PearlHarbor"typecatastrophetogetthepubliconboardwithaninvasion.TheywrotethisBEFORE9/11.
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Whereismyoil?
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Nottrue.Therewasdirectevidenceofhispeopleburying(whatweknownowwere)emptychemicalweaponcontainers(before9/11).
Theywereplacedinordertodefendthemselves,butwetookitasasignofaggressionandafter9/11thelandscapechangedandwe
weretriggerhappyforthearabcountriesandSadaamwasaneasytarget.
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[] EatMyFucks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yup.TheBushadministrationwantedtodestabilizethemiddleeasttodriveupoilpricesandIraqwasaneasytargetwithnomajor
alias.
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[] omninode undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitwasmoreaboutfeedingthemilitaryindustrialcomplex.Weneedanewwareverydecadetojustifyblowingsomuchofthe
federalbudgetonweapons.
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Wegot6%ofouroilfromIraqthen,Ibelievewegetaboutthesamenow.SonotonlydidweroyallyfuckIraqup,wegotnothingoutof
it.Wefailedinawaymostpeopledon'tevenrealize.
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9/11hasmoretodowithAfghanistan
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[] MrMadcap undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheIraqWarwasaboutoil,period.comma,weaponssales,comma,andpalletsfullofcash.
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[] markth_wi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotactuallyaconspiracy.That'samatterofthepublicandCongressionalrecord.
Butjustcatchsomeofthequotesfromoneofthemajorcheerleadersforwar,inandaroundthetimeof9/11,PaulWolfowitz
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[] thorgod99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButtheUSdidn'tgainanyoilbenefitsfromthewar.
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[] Koush22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
False.Petrodollar.SaddamstartedsellinginEuro.
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[] Shorvok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cheneymadeanyamountofmoneypaidtohimbyoilinterestsabout1000xoverrebuildingshitinIraqafterweblewitup.
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ItwouldhavebeenbetteriftheyhadinvadedSaudiArabiainstead.SupposedlytheirjusticesystemisjustlikeISIS
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Iknowyou'rebeingedgy,butSaudiArabia'sprimeexportiswahabismwhichisbasicallytherootofallradicalizationofIslam.And
Americaknowsthis,butthepetrodollarisoneoftheonlythingskeepingacurrencybasedonariggedandfailedsystemvaluable.
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We'rebothonthesamesideofthisargument.Thepetrodollarhashadamassiveimpactonworldhistory
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[] lono10c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WishIhadboughtsomestockinBush/Cheney'sfavoriteoilcompaniespriortothewar.
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[] haole1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
In2000,CheneycommissionedareportfromJamesBaker'sthinktank(theBakerInst.)onenergysecurity.Atthetime,Iraqwasbeing
sanctionedandtheiroilsaleswerelimited.ThereportstatedthatifSaddamwantedtohurttheUSallhehadtodowasstopsellingoil.
ThepriceofoilwouldshootupandUSeconomicgrowthwouldstop.ThereportisstillontheBakerInst.website:
STRATEGICENERGYPOLICY:CHALLENGESFORTHE21STCENTURY
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[] ARacistTexanComments undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwasaboutthepetrodollarmorethanactualoil.
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[] nohslax2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dickcheneymademoneyofftheiraqwar
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Yeah,ithadnothingtodowiththegenocidaldictatorthatkeptthreateningtoattacktheU.S.Intheshadowof9/11.Muricawasthebad
guy,guize.Becauseofeviloil.
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[] BaconAllDay2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?Oil?Didhesayoil?Whatsaidsomethinaboutoil?Bitchyoucookin?
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TherewereconfoundingfactorswhenweinvadedIraq,but9/11almostcertainlywasn'toneofthem,itwasjusttheeasiestwaytoget
thepubliconboard.Idon'tbelieveitwasBushthough.Cheneywastheonegoingaroundintentionallytryingtolink9/11withIraqand
sayingtheyhadWMDswithnoproofthattheyhaddoneeitherofthosethings,allthewhilepaddinghiswalletwithallofthatwar
profiteering.IthinkhealsoliedtoBushandgototherpeopletofillhisheadwiththoselies.IthinkBushwasjusttoostupidtobe
president,andhewaseasilymanipulatedbyhisevilVPbecauseofit.
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[] eqleriq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
husseinthreatenedthebushfamilydirectly,sonotjustoil.
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EveryadministrationsincethefirstGulfWarhadaplanonhowtogobackintoIraq.Itwasastandardmilitaryplanningandwargaming
exercise.JustlikethereisawarplanforNorthKoreathathasbeenupdatedeveryfewyearssincetheendoftheKoreanWar.
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ItwasalsoaboutisolatingandaggressingIran,lithiumfields,CIAcontroloverheroinproduction,etcetc
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[] bkelley1239 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BillClintonalsowantedtotakeIraqout.HepassedtheIraqLiberationActin1998.
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[] 976chip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasmoreaboutWwantingtofinishthejobhisfatherstarted.
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Thisisacommonstatement,butdoesn'treallypanoutconsideringtheadministrationwasfilledwithabunchofwarhawksjust
chompingatthebittofightsomethingafter9/11
JustthinkaboutDickCheneyproddingapliableBush24/7
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[] Super_C_Complex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ummm,theUSdoesn'tgetmuchoilfromtheMiddleEast,that'sEurope.theUSgetsalotfromCanadaandVenezuela.
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Petrodollar,myfriend.
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Exceptthatdoesn'tmakeaparticularamountofsense,asbothVenezuelaandIranhavemoreoilthanIraqandwouldbelogistically
easiertoinvade.
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SointerestingthatboththosegovernmentsweretoppledbyAmerica!
Also,IdoubtIranwaseasiertoinvade,especiallywiththeamazingmilitarytheshahbegantobuild.Iraqcouldn'tdoitwithsupport
fromtherestoftheworldanduseofchemicalweaponsaftertherevolution.
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[] randomSAPguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notexactlyabouttheoilitself,butitsprice.
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[] archonsengine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotsayinganythingaboutmybeliefsonthistheory,butyoumightbeamusedbythistidbit.AnoldroommateofminewasaMarine
whoservedduringtheIraqWar.HesaidthattheMarineshewasstationedwithallreferredtobeingapartofOperationIraqiLiberation
insteadoftheIraqWar.
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[] xug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sinteresting."Liberation"soundswonderful.USkidswhobelieveinfreedomwillreadilysignuptoliberatecountriesfromthe
"axisofevil".
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[] jeffwong 1points
Ithinkitwouldactuallybegoodifitwasaboutoil.Becauseifitwasn't,itwouldhavebeenaboutvanity,whichisfarmorepathetic.
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Thosearetheonlytwothingsyoucanthinkof?
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[] mysterious_baker 30points
TheBushadministrationwasapparentlyplanningtoinvadeIraqandtakeoutSaddamHusseinbefore9/11.
Hell,itwasoneofhisearlycampaignpromises.Inaninterviewfrom99heplainoutsaysthatifheiselectedAmericawouldbegoing
afterSaddam.9/11wasjustaconvenientexcuse.
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HeusedanAmericantragedytohelpswaypublicopinion.ThatissodespicableIstillcan'tgetoverit.
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Youmustbenewtopolitics.
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[] verbify undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Pleaseprovideasourceforhimsayinghe'dgoafterSaddampre9/11.
Here'sasourcesayingthathewanteda'humbleforeignpolicy':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc
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9/11certainlymadeitaloteasiertogatherthepublic'ssupport.HisapprovalratingsoaredafterhegavethatspeechinCongressa
fewdaysaftertheattacks.
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ConsideringmostofIraq'soilgoestochinaidoubtthat
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[] sed_base undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitisextracted&soldbyAmericanoilcompanies
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ThemainoilfieldsareownedbyExxonnowinsteadofbeingnationalizedliketheywere,pointcounterpoint.
http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/company/worldwideoperations/locations/iraq
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[] Alpy94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfyoucontroltheplacewhereChina'soilcomesfrom,Chinawillstaycalm.
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[] ristorilsm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
consideringthatChinapaidformostofthewarwith...waitforit...Tbonds
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[] johnnybones23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chinaholdslike%7ofusdebtlastiremember
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[] sanderson22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andwho'skeepingtheprofit?
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Chinainprettymucheverycase.
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DotheybuyitwithYuanorDollars?
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[] mrpopperspenguin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dollars.Inthe70sNixongotallOPECcountriestoagreetoselltheiroilonlyfordollarsinexchangeforarmsandUSmilitary
protection.
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Itwouldhavebeenboughtindollarswithoutthewar.
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Nope.Saddamthreatenedtogetoffthepetrodollar.
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[] PacSan300 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ChinahasbenefitedquiteabitfromUSinvolvementintheMiddleEast.InadditiontoIraq,ithasalsodoneinvestmentin
AfghanistanundertacitUSsecuritycover.
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[] Ekolot 1121points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SayingtheinvasionofIraqwasaboutoilisareallysimplisticwaytolookatacomplicatedfuckup.IftheU.S.wasinitsolelyfortheoil
theywouldhaveknockedoutAssad,Gaddafi,etcin2003insteadofjustHussein.
Therewereabunchmorereasons.Namely:topplingSaddamwouldleadtoamuchmorebalancedregionforSaudis,thelittleGulf
states,etc.Secondly,takingoutSaddamandestablishingafootholdinIraqwouldupthepressureonIran,Thirdly,allowingthemilitary
industrialcomplextoprofitgreatlyfromthewar.
TheBushadministrationintendedforasmooth,lowcasualtyinvasion(whichiswhathappened)buthopedforasmooth,postWW2like
occupation(whichisnotwhathappened).
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[] sthayashi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisliterallythemostrationalexplanationofwhyweinvadedIraqthatI'vereadinthelast14years.
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[] IAmNotYourBoss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salsoworthmentioningthatthesanctionsregimewascrumbling,andwithoutUNsanctionstheUSwouldloseakeyelementof
thecontainmentregimethey'dputinplace.TheUSgovernmenthadviewedSaddamasamenaceforoveradecade,andviewed
thatoccurringsoonafter9/11asastrategictippingpoint.
Additionally,thetherewasanimmenseamountofpersonalanimositydirectedatSaddambytheBushfamily.Particularlygiventhe
attemptsondaddyBush'slifeaftertheGulfWar.
AndIhavenodoubtthatotherfactorsfeedintothedecisionmakingprocess.Theemergenceoftheneoconservativeideologyin
Washingtonleadershipcircles,thebenefitstobegainedbyrebalancingtheregionagainsttheArabnationalists,etc.
IsubscribetothenotionthattheIraqWarwastheresultofmanycomplex,interrelatedfactors.
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[] johnwayne1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Greatanswer
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[] aperfectmonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
600,000iraqismurderisasmoothlowcasualtyinvasion.Somepeopleliketojustifytheirwrongdoingsinsuchaway,thatifthey
justtookastepbackandlookedatwhattheyaresayingtheywouldrealizehowmuchofamonstertheyreallyare.
600,000murderedisnotabigdealaslongasitsnotamericanlives,andthatstheconservativeamericanestimate.Thebritish
estimateiscloserto1,033,000.
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[] The_Papal_Pilot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Eh,no.By"smoothlowcasualtyinvasion"OPmeantthetheinitialmilitaryoperationwhichtookplaceinMarchandsawthe
invasionofthecountry,captureofBaghdad,etc.ConsideringtheinvasiononlysawthethelossoflifeahandfulofAmerican
soldiersandafewthousandIraqis,itwasverylowcasualty.
Theoccupationontheotherhandwasvery,verybloody.Buttryingtopinthedeathsof1,000,000IraqisontheUnitedStates
isshamefulandsomethingamisinformedpersonwoulddo.
Let'sdothemathhere.
Iraqhasapopulationof30,000,000people
Forevery1,000peopleabout6dieeveryyearinIraqonaverageorabout.6%.
If.6%ofthepopulationdieseveryyear,that'sabout180,000peopleayear.Orroughly1.4millionpeoplethroughoutthe
entireoccupation.
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[] elspaniard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thirdly,allowingthemilitaryindustrialcomplextoprofitgreatlyfromthewar.
ThiswastheprimarypurposeoftheIraqinvasionandsubsequentquagmire.Notoil.Oilisthebigcon.Theytoldus"forour
freedoms",andlettheoilconspiracyfester.Classicmisdirection,withathirdlayer:thesupportingindustry.
Yearsago,whenwewerealltalkingabouttheveryfirstofthe"surges",whenBushwasstillinoffice,Iwroteupashortarticle
detailingthestockandinvestmenthistoryofaboutadozenoftheworld'sbiggestwarindustrycorporationsfromtwoyearspriorto
theinvasioninMarchof'03tothatpresenttime,whichwasaroundthemiddleofoccupation.
ExxonMobilprovidingfuelforthewarmachine.Raytheon,theworld'slargestproducerofguidedmissiles(amongstotherheavily
usedweaponsandwartech).LockheedMartin,spaceandaerodefensegiant,78%ofwhosetotalsalesarecomprisedfrom
governmentcontracts.Theyalsosinglehandedlymakeup10%ofthePentagon'sentirebudget.TheyprovidedtheF22Raptor,
whichcost$227millionapiece.187werecontractedtobebuilt.Dothemath.TheF22projectwascanceledunderpolitical
pressureoncethewasteandcostwentmainstreamknowledge.GeneralAtomics,whichproducestheinfamouspredatorUAVswe
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areallfamiliarwithnow.$4millionperunit,andwhoknowshowmanyhavebeenusedsince.Thelistgoesonandonandon.
In2000,U.S.Defensespendingwasjustunder$300billion.In2011,ithadclimbedtoover$700billion.Followthemoney.
http://youtu.be/xuUtu2xRGgY
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[] cocojambles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
don'tforgetthatSaddamtriedtoassassinateGeorgeW'sfather.
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[] scootah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myvariationofthetheoryisthatthewarhadfuckall.Ifanythingtodowith9/11,terrorthreatsandweaponsofmassdestruction.It
wasaboutmoneyanddomesticUSpolitics.
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[] cantpissoffmods undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SayingtheinvasionofIraqwasaboutoilisareallysimplisticwaytolookatacomplicatedfuckup.IftheU.S.wasinitsolelyfor
theoiltheywouldhaveknockedoutAssad,Gaddafi,etcin2003insteadofjustHussein.
Twodown,onetogo...
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[] edgarallenbro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyouthinkthatjustbecausetheydidn'ttakedownAssadandGaddafiin2003meanssomething?Thefactthatwe'vegoneafter
themsincedoesn'tcountbecausewedidn'tgoafterthemrightaway?
Romewasn'tbuiltinaday.
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Peoplethatsayitwassolelyforoildontrealizethatduetothepostgulfwar"Oilforfood"restrictionswegotOilfromIraqfor
penniesonthedollar.
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[] kittens_4_breakfast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsothereweregenuinehumanitarianconcernsinthemix,especiallyfromguyslikePaulWolfowitz.
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[] wannabejewgga undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheyalsowantedtoprotecttheUSDthatwasthemaincurrencyusedforoilcommerce.Husseinwantedtochangeoilcurrencyfor
EUROwhichwould'vedecreasedUSD'svaluebyalot.
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[] Twiggy3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'tLibyawanttomoveawayfromUSDtoo?
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[] MiningsMyGame undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thespecificcauseoftheinvasion,USintelclaimingWMDsthere,isactuallyreallyinteresting.Sadaamwastryingtoconvince
IsraelandtheKurdsthathehadthem,whileatthesametimeshowthewestthathedidn't.Theintelfuckedupandguessedwrong.
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[] krakah293 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyoneforgets(ordoesn'tknow)ittookoccupationtokilloffnazism.HoweverIraqis20%largerthanGermanyanditwasn'tjust
asinglecountrydoingtheoccupying.Nowaytheresultwouldhavebeenthesame.
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IftheU.S.wasinitsolelyfortheoiltheywouldhaveknockedoutAssad,Gaddafi,etcin2003insteadofjustHussein.
Wait...YouthinkSyriaandLibyaaremajoroilproducers?Seriously?
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[] trems21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Libyaisabsolutelyamajoroilproducer.
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[] proterozoic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Syrianotsomuch,butLibyasureis.
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Oryoucouldsimplysayitwasaboutoil,whichifyouremovefromtheequationstopseverything.
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[] MrsChimpGod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TakingoutSaddamandestablishingafootholdinIraqwouldupthepressureonIran,
IraqwasalreadyIran'senemy.IranianaffiliatedpoliticiansheldmuchmorepowerinIraqafterwetookoutSaddam.Infact,between
ChalabiandCurveball,somehavespeculatedIrantrickedusintoattackingIraq.
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[] Sigaromanzia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IalwaysrememberhearinggettingridofSaddamwouldcompletelydestabilizeIraqbecauseofthestruggleforpowerthatwould
occur,orthatthoseinlinetoreplacehimwouldbeworse.
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[] thebrokendoctor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'reforgettingtheWMDpart,whichisbyfarthelargestone.
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Yeah,thereisreallyonlyonewarinAmericanhistorywhosecausecanbeaccuratelyexplainedinoneword,andthat'stheCivil
War.
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[] Rum____Ham undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'renotwrong,butthereissomuchbehindthatonewordthstit'salmostnotdoingtheexplanationjustice.
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Ihonestlydon'tunderstandwhatyoumeancouldyouelaborate?
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[] Rum____Ham undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'smorecomplicatedthantheusualwhiteknightexplanation.
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[] Shamwow22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBushadministrationintendedforasmooth,lowcasualtyinvasion(whichiswhathappened)
Conservativeestimateshaveitkillingoverhalfamillionpeople.
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[] LubysCafeteria undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewastalkingabouttheinvasioninthebityouquoted,nottheentirewar.
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[] flashingcurser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whataboutthepetrodollar?Saddamthreatenedtogooffit,sodidGaddafiandAssadtoojustpriortoourinvolvementinSyria.
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[] whygohomie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndSaddamtriedtokillhisdaddy.
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Theseallmakesenseexcepttheprofitone.Howdidthewargenerateprofitsforthemilitaryindustrialcomplex?
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[] laughterwithans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SeveralbilliondollarnobidcontractawardedtothecompanythattheVP(atthetime)hadbeenCEOoflessthanayear
beforebeingelected.
DozensofFOBssetupintheregion,featuringdozensofprivatebusinessesheldundercontract.
Lordknowswhatelsebehindcloseddoors
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interestinghowassadandgaddafiarestillinuncontestedpowerandhaven'tbeenunderthreatofconstantdestabilizationsince
reagancough
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[] FlashZapman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeysoIhavearelevantdevelopmenttothatwhichyoumightbeinterestedinhearingabout.
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"Themilitaryindustrialcomplex"includingandespeciallyDickCheney'sbuddiesatHalliburton.
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Therewereabunchmorereasons.Namely:topplingSaddamwouldleadtoamuchmorebalancedregionforSaudis,thelittle
Gulfstates,etc.
Idon'tthinkthatactuallyhappened,though.ItcausedtheentireregiontoimplodeAssadisthelastofhiskindandIMOweshould
beproppinghimup.
TakingoutSaddamandestablishingafootholdinIraqwouldupthepressureonIran,
Iranisn'tremotelyunderanypressureandisdoingverywellforitself.
Oh,absolutely.TheArabSpringandthelikesofISISkeepthatgravytrainrolling.
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Er,thereallybigdefensecompanieslostbigtimeonthatwar.Whilecontractorsmadeatonofmoney,thereallybigcompanies
(LockheedMartin,NorthrupGrumman,Boeing,GeneralDynamics,andRaytheon)areinprocurement,andgottakentothe
cleanersonIraqsincehalfofthefundingforthewarwastakenoutoftheRD&Abudget.
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Isn'titconvenienthatalotofthecontrActorshadclosetiestothebushadministrationandCheney.Veryveryshady.They
createdthewarinlargepartfortheirfriends(andthemselves)toprofit.
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[] Damn_Dog_Inappropes 1points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
amuchmorebalancedregion
Excepttheexactoppositehappened.
<TakingoutSaddamandestablishingafootholdinIraqwouldupthepressureonIran,
AndIranisactuallymorepowerfulthanever,sincewegotridoftheircounterbalance.
That'sdefinitelytrue.
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[] FULLM3TALBITCH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Excepttheexactoppositehappened.
That'snotbecausetheideawasfaulty,it'sbecauseitwasexecutedpoorly.IfIplantodrivetothestoreandgetsomeeggs,
there'snothinginherentlywrongwiththat.IfIwalktomycar,siphonsomegasoutofit,drinkit,getinthecar,driveitintoa
bridgeembankmentandcallmyfiance,tellinghimhe'sadick,that'sbad.
Thatdoesn'tmean"gotothestoretobuyeggs"isbad,though.
AndIranisactuallymorepowerfulthanever,sincewegotridoftheircounterbalance.
Thiswaskickedaroundalotaroundthelast2000s,butatthispoint,it'sprettyclearthatSaudiArabiaismorethancapableof
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providingthecounterbalance.ThehardcoreSunnisweren'topposingIranbecauseIraqalreadywas,notbecausethey
couldn't.
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[] PippyLongSausage 0points
Youmustnotrememberbushpromisingtodoexactlythat.Hecalledthemtheaxisofevil.
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Yeah?HecalledoutNorthKoreabecausehewantedtheiroil?
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[] xug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nofinancialbenefit,exceptformaybemilitaryspending,toattackingNKorea.PlusChinamakesthingspretty
complicatedfinanciallyandmilitarily.
OneinterestingideaisthatbycallingagroupofcountriestheAxisofEvil,youcreateanusvsthemmentalitythat
seemstoresonatewiththepublicasawhole.Becomeseasiertosellawar.
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[] nipplynips 4points
Iheardthebushfamilywaswithahugedefensivecontractingfamilythesamemorning.Thatmaybepartofit,tomakethewhole
worldbuyyourweapons.Thetowerscouldn'tcollapselikethat,withnotraceofthesteelbeamsstillstanding.Therewereperfect
welderscutsonthebottomofallthebeams.Thermitewasburningat6000degreesforweeksafterinthebasements.Huge
explosionshappenedinbothbasmentsminutesbeforetheplaneshit.Itwasallcompletelysetup.
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[] ThatOneChappy 0points
itsactuallyrelevantforonce
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[] FULLM3TALBITCH 143points
Kindathat,mostlyitwasaboutrealizingthatArabextremismis/hasbeentheresultofdespotsforbiddingoppositionpoliticalparties.
Thispushesallpoliticaloppositionintotheoneplacedespotscan't/won'tdaretrytocontrol:themosque.SoextremeIslambecame
politicizedandoppositionpoliticsbecamemoreIslamized.
ForeignpolicyexpertssawthisandsaidthatamoredemocraticArabworldwasthewaytofightthisandtheBushadministration,
after9/11,wasmorethanwillingtohearandbelievethem.
Thentheytalkedtotheirmilitaryleadershipandsaid"howdoweexecutethis?"TheJointChiefsansweredthatquestion,theBush
administrationsaid"nah,youdon'tknowwhatyou'retalkingabout"andproceededtocompletelyfuckupthewar.
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[] heisgone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatisthisJoinChefsadviceyoureferto?
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EntersISIS.
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[] FULLM3TALBITCH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kinda.ISISwastheresultoftheArabSpring,whichwwwonlypartiallytheresultoftheIraqinvasion,andwould've
happenedeventuallywithorwithoutit.
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[] Crassusinyourasses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WheredoestheProjectforaNewAmericanCentury'sstatedplantoinvadeIraqfitintothis?KeepinmindPNACpreexists
9/11andGW'spresidencyyetcontainedalmosttheentiretyofGW'scabinetasitsboard.
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[] PostsNDPStuff 55points
Ireadsomethingaround20078thattalkedaboutIraqin20034.Therewereatonofyoungconservativesbasicallyrightout
ofschoolpartyingallnightandtryingtosetupacountrybyday.Whydidn'ttheysucceed?Becausetheydidn'tlistentothe
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populationandwe'reusingideologicallyboundsocialsciencemodelstocreateacapitalistdemocracyfromscratch.
I'dactuallylovetoseethisinasortofWolfofWallstreetstylehistoricalcomedy.
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[] RichardLewisDreyfus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youshouldcheckoutthe2009film"IntheLoop".CurrentlyonNetflix.Hilariousblacksatiricalcomedycenteringaround
theeventsleadinguptotheinvasionofIraqhighlightingdeliberatemisinformationandincompetenceininternational
politics.94%onRottenTomatoes.I'veseenitmoretimesthanIcancount.
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[] iamiamwhoami undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whereddiyoureadthat?
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[] PostsNDPStuff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ProbablyHarper'sorsomethinglikethat.
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Becausetheydidn'tlistentothepopulationandwe'reusingideologicallyboundsocialsciencemodelstocreatea
capitalistdemocracyfromscratch.
So"thepopulation"said"fuckthatnoise"andstartedblowingshitupforthecauseoftyrannyandreligiousoppression.
Which,asfarasIcantell,makesthemthebadguys.
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Thosepeoplearedefinitelyprettybadpeoplebutthecountryfellformultiplereasons.TheBaathpartymembers
werenotallowedtoholdanypublicjobs(theyhadtobememberstogainemployment)andtheentire
infrastructurewasprivatised.Itsentthecountryintoadeeprecessionandledtoextremistsgaininganeasy
foothold.
AsimilarsituationoccurredinRussiaafterthefallofthesovietunion.
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[] mepher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Outstandingideaforafilm.
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"ThehistoryoftheMiddleEast,starringwhitepeople"
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[] Shrub74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThissoundslikeitwoulbeaStrangeloveesqueblackcomedyandIwantit.
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[] marsjazztrio undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Whenpeoplethinkhistorystartedahundredyearsago,starringLeoLittleCry"
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"Whenpeopleinterpretajoketooliterallystarringmarsjazztrio"
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"You'rehired!"castingdirector
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[] Temp55551111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotIraqandnotnecessarilynationbuildingperse,butI'dcheckoutTheBrink,whichwasonHBOearlierthisyear.
It'sacomedywithJackBlackplayingapartyinglowlevelStateDepartmentdiplomat,AsifManvashisPakistanilocally
employedembassydriver,andTimRobbinsastheSecretaryofState.Ifyou'reapartoftheDCbeltwayworldora
politicaljunkieyou'llloveit
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Neat!
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[] marsjazztrio 0points
Adecentplanintheory,itwasjusttoobaditwasexecutedsohalfassed.
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that'sslightlyinaccurate,butclose....
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[] A40 26points
Theoilandgascorporationsareconspiringagainstanyrestrictionsondrilling.
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[] NikolaKinetic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheJewscontrolIsrael.
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[] toan55 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
7/11wasaparttimejob.
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[] Dockirby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lies,7/11wasfulltime!
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[] hypnolotustoad undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisdeservesaparttimeupvote.
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Redditisn'tmostlylereferences,plagiarismandautisticcomputernerds.
Justthecommentsections.
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[] Derpy_doughnut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JFKshotfirst.
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[] Got_wake 3points
Slurpeescan'tmeltKrispykremes
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[] IpsoKinetikon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Floridamandid9/11.
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[] ThisIsMyFifthAcc 1point
Investigate3/11
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Suppimplepete
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You'vegottotrustyourinstincts.
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[] Is_A_Velociraptor 23points
9/11wasaninsidejoke.
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D:
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[] CoyoteTheFatal 141points
ICEEscan'tmelt7/11taquitos
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Slurpee'scan'tmelt7Eleventaquitos!
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[] Clorst_Glornk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ICEE'smeltthemselvesafter3seconds
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7/11tacitoscanmeltmycolonthough
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[] WormHat 50points
*Slurpee
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[] NiobiumGoat 4points
*MonkeyJuice
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*Monkeysemen
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9/11wasaninsidejob.
FTFY.
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[] howhardcoulditB 2points
Whoosh
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...Damnit.:(
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[] ShawDeez 5971points
Cosmopolitandeliberatelyoffersbaddatingadvicetosinglewomeninordertokeepthemsingle,sotheykeepbuyingmagazines.
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[] devries undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'scalledthe"ShirkyPrinciple"
"Institutionswilltrytopreservetheproblemtowhichtheyarethesolution."
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[] cringedex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Althoughtheirpoliticswerenotionallyleftwing,thesemagazinesembracedtheidealsoftheentertainmentindustry:thedestructionof
JudeoChristianvalues,thesupremacyofyouthandindividualfreedom.Tornbetweentheseconflictingpressures,teenmagazines
hastilycobbledtogetheracompromisethatcanbesummedupinthefollowinglifehistory.
Inthefirststage(say,fromtwelvetoeighteen),agirlwouldgooutwithseveralboys(thesemanticambivalenceofthetermreflecteda
veryrealbehavioralambiguity:whatdidgoingoutwithaboyactuallymean?Diditmeankissing,ordiditincludethemoreprofound
joysofpettingorofheavypetting,orevenoffullsexualintercourse?Shouldyouallowaboytotouchyourbreasts?Shouldyoutakeoff
yourpanties?Andwhatshouldyoudowithhisthing?)ForPatriciaHohweillerandCarolineYessayantheproblemwasfarfromsimple
theirfavoritemagazinesgavevague,oftencontradictoryanswers.Inthesecondstage(onceshelefthighschool),thesamegirlneeded
aseriousrelationship(referredtoinGermanmagazinesasbiglove).Nowthedefiningquestionwas:ShouldImoveinwithJeremy?
Thiswasthesecondandfinalstage.Theflawinthesolutionofferedbygirlsmagazinesarbitrarilyrecommendingcontradictoryforms
ofbehaviorinconsecutiveperiodsofagirlslifeonlybecameapparentsomeyearslaterwiththeinexorableriseinthedivorcerate.
Nevertheless,formanyyearsgirls,naveandalreadydisorientedbythespeedofsocialchange,acceptedtheseimprobablerulesand
triedtheirbesttosticktothem."
MichelHouellebecq,Theelementaryparticles.
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Themorelikelyscenarioisthattheypublishbadadvicebecausepeoplelikereadingterribleadvice,becauseit'sfunny.
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[] Munakala undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkpeoplebuythemagazineforthedatingadvice.Imeanifsomepeopledoit'sareallysmallfraction.
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[] ObliviousIrrelevance undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydefinitelydependonkeepingtheselfesteemoftheirreadershiplowinordertomaintaindependencyofthepublication.
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tipslike"reachintoyourunderpantsandtouchhislipswithyourwetness"and"runyourteethgentlyoverhisshaftandballs"makeso
muchsensenow.
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Whenyourmanisabouttohaveanorgasm,squeezehisballsrealhard,withallofyourmight.MenLOVEthis.
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[] davemeowthews undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'dbemessedup,butaconspiracyisusuallydefinedashavingsomeelementofcriminalintentorillegalresults.
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[] SexualLucas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tjustcomeoutandsaythateveryoneisweird,sojustfuckandtrytorelaxandhavefun...nobodywouldpayattention.
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[] solemnversifier undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/shitcosmosays
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[] Ceejae undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sincewhenhascosmopolitanbeentargetedspecificallyatsinglewomen?Doyouhaveanydemographicpercentagestobackthisup?
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Theytargetyoungwomenandtellthemtolivewhileandsettledownintheir30s
...Whiletheytargetolderwomenabout"wherehaveallthegoodmengone?"
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[] Biomortia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Thereasonwhyallpantsongirlsclothingthesedayshavefakepocketsissoweareforcedtobuypurses.
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[] Horse625 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsmorelikeaprofitablebusinessmodeltome.
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[] RazorINC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FunnyyousaythatbecauseIjustsawanarticlefromCosmoAustraliagivingadvicefrom"TheMostMessagedWomanonOKCupid".
Myfirstthoughtwas,"butifherownmethodsactuallyworked,whyisshestillactiveonOKCupid?"
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[] W1Ndextor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Flickhisfrinulumwiththetipofyourtounge."
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[] Psychegotical undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodtheory.IalsobelievethatcompanieswhomakedishwashersoroffbrandTV'sorwashingmachinespurposelyputthewarranty
fortheamountofyearstheythinktheirproductwilllast.Thencutthewarrantybackabit.Washerthatwethinkwilllast5years?4year
warranty.It'ssneakybecauseyougetasenseof"thiscompanycsres"butreallyit'stofuckovertheworkingman.Workstoo.
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[] Bar_Har undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peoplekeepsayingthis,andI'mnotsayingIdon'tbelieveitbutI'veneverheardanyonepresentanexampleofthebadadvicethey
offer.
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[] Jokkerb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Becausesteelwoolandacarbatteryhasnobusinessnearaman'ssexybits.
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[] scandiumflight undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Probablymyfavoriteconspiracytheorysofar
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[] random_girl_me undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ioncereadthatwomenshouldusetheirteethwhilstgivingblowjobs.
MaybeCosmoalsojusthatesallmen.
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[] rreighe2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hewillloveitifyoumakea360spinwhileonhisdick.Besuretopokehimwithaforkwithonehandwhileyouchokehimuntilhe
passesout.Keephammeringhimwhilehe'sunconscious.
Yeah...Probablyshouldn'tdothat
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[] RMS_Gigantic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isweartissuesandnosemedicationsmustworkthisway,too.
Pullatissueoutofabox?Tinylittleparticlesentertheairthataresuretoirritateyournoseandmakeitrun.Solution?Getanother
tissuetoblowyournoseandwipeoffthemucus,butindoingsoyoujustletlooseevenmoretinyparticles.Repeatenoughtimesuntil
yournosehaschafedandisevenMOREirritated.
Nosemedication:isyournoserunny?Here'ssomemedicationforthat.Whatdoesitdo?Itsolidifiesyourmucussoitwon'trun...
exceptnowyoucan'tbreatheproperlybecauseyournoseisstuffy.Betterusethatmedicineforstuffynose!Whatdoesitdo?It
liquefiesyourmucustogetitout.Welp,nowyouhavearunnynoseagain,soyourtwooptionsaretoeithergettherunnynose
medicationagainoruseatissue,inwhichcaseyouentertheloopabove.
Everythinghereinmentionedcomesincontainersthatcontainseveralsingleuseitems.
AtthispointIprefertoblowmynosewithfaceclothsandthendroptheminthedirtyclotheshamper.Icanreusethemaftertheyget
washed,andtheydon'thavethatnoseirritatingqualityoftissuesinsofarasIcanfeel.
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[] Forikorder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wouldntanyonewithhalfabrainquicklygo"wowthisadviceisterribleneverbuyingthismagazineagain"whentheywantthemtogo
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"wowthisadviceworked,ibettergetallmyfriendstoreadthisshit"
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Cosmopolitandeliberatelyoffersbaddatingadvicetosinglewomeninordertokeepthemsingle,sotheykeepbuyingmagazines.
Istoppedreading"women's"magazinesonceIfiguredoutthatthey'reactuallywrittenbypeoplewhohatewomen!
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[] Has_Xray_Glasses undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisonesoundscrazy,butitissurprisinglylikely.
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[] transcendReality undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisishoweverythingworks.Seriously.
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[] Waaailmer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veseenthissamepost3timesinthepastyearandthisisalwaysthetopcomment.
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[] hundawg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
marriedwomenreadthatcraptoo.IknowbecauseIgottiredofmywifereadingit,sheisnowtheex.
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Ihavehadseveralwomandothingsinbedthatwereawesomeandtellmetheywerefromcosmomag...
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YoumeanIshouldstopstabbingmyspousewithaforkduringsex?
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Occam'sRazor:Easiestdatingadvicetowrite,mostappealingtoread.
Theydon'tthinkthatfarinadvancetobethatmanipulative.Anditwouldn'tworkanyway.
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IrememberthefirsttimeIreadthisonreddit.
Andthenthe9thtime
and the 26th time
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[] lergerhs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CanyouimaginetheTumblroutrageifamagazinetoldmentodoCosmopolitanlevelcrazyshittowomen?
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[] Grasshopper21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveneverwanteddirtysockswrappedaroundmynadsandpulledon..........
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[] notdez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Realoriginalhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3mi3pe/slug/cvf59kl
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[] ShawDeez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ineverclaimeditwasmyown,didI?
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[] notdez undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lolyes,inherentlywhenyoudon'tgivecredit.
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[] LeGhostFace11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Datingadviceforwoman:Areyounottoofat,doyouhavetitsandaass.Goodgoinanybarandwait15minutes
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[] stanleyfarnsworth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Menloveitwhenyouuseyourteeth!"
Theyactuallyprintedthat.
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Ireferyoutor/shitcosmosays.
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[] Windain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Women'sRightsactivistscomplainthatmenaretoblamefortoday'sstandardofbeauty.Butifyouslappedafatwomanonthefrontof
Cosmowomenwouldstopbuyingit.
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Wanttospicethingsupinthebed?Stabhisscrotumwithafork!Nextissue:findingadateafterthatweirdodumpsyou!
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[] MintJulepTestosteron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Replacetheword"single"with"stupid"andyourstatementismoreaccurate,Ithink.
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[] elwood78 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistrue..notaconspiracytheory.Theiradviceishorrible.
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[] andybent25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isn'tthatverticalintegration?
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[] sepkimmy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Holyshit,itsbeeninfrontofmyeyesthiswholetime!
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[] musical_throat_punch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
15signsyourmanischeating.#1:he'snicetoyou
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[] Zeliek undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heyladies!Makehimneverleaveyouagaininthisnewbreakthroughdatingtip,theNicoTease!
Simplysticknicotinepatchestohimwhilehesleepsandremovebeforehewakesup.Ifhetriestospendanyundesirablelengthoftime
awayfromyou,he'llgothroughanastywithdrawaluntilhereturns!Trytriplingthenicotinepatchesforthoseextraalooftypes.
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[] DeadFamilyMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Marriedwomenbuyittoothough,sono?
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[] haydiddy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisonlythemillionthtimeI'vereadthiscommentonReddit
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[] FunkSlice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Awwwpoorwomen.
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[] MeiCaiKouRou undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sjustabouttellingpeoplewhattheywanttohear,whichistypicallywhatkeepsanyonesingleanyway.(eg.you'regreat,andmen
suck,etc...)
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[] bubbafat1155 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
..andfuturesubscriptionstotheirotherperiodical"CatFancy"
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[] Aarjbar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DittoMaxim.
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[] kieran_n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Aswellasknockingchipsofftheirselfesteemleftrightandcenter,thatmagazinenegsmorewomenthanallthe'pickupartists'inthe
worldcombined...
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Andbuymoremakeupandclothesandshoestoattractamate.Awomanwithaguywillgenerallyrelaxwiththatstuff,butifthey're
single...they'rebuyingupeverythingtoenhancetheirlooks.
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[] donutdongthrowaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hi!FormerCosmofreelancerhere(anddude).
Icantellyou,sadly,thatisn'tit.Basically,ithasthesameproblem15yearsagoasclickbaithastoday.There'sbasicallyonly50
differentthingsyoucandowithadongand/orvagina,andtheyprettymuchexhaustedthemby1965orwhatever.
Sothey'llreachouttoaselectgroupoffreelancerstheytrustlessbasedonsexualprowessandmorebasedontheirabilitytofile
cleancopyandsay,"hey,what'stheweirdestthingyou'vehearddonewithfoodwhilehavingsex?"orwhatever.Craziest
one/cleanestcopytypicallygetsinthemagazine,sincethere'snoearnestwaytofactcheckit.
Thus,Cosmowasborn.Iknowthey'retryingtomoveawayfromthatnow,butmakingshitupfordecadesdieshard.
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[] Sir_picklechips undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisinthesameveinasfashioncompaniesmakingwoman'spantswithoutusablepocketsinordertomakethembuyhandbags.
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[] My_Troll_account_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Women'spantsaretailoredclosertothebody.Largepocketswouldaddexcessbulkandlooksloppy.Evenifwomen'sapparelhad
regularsizedpockets(andmuchofitdoes),itstillwouldn'tholdwhatapursedoesanyway.
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[] 911isaconspiracy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatcan'tpossiblybetrue.Theamountofworkthatwouldtaketosubliminallydumbifywomenintostayingsingleisnotworththe
results.
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IalwaysthoughtCosmowasmeantforteens.SamewaythatSeventeenismeantfor1112yearoldgirls.Kidsliketothinktheyare
readingstuffforamorematuregroup,soyoucan'tmarkettowardsthemdirectly.
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[] muffintaupe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HadafriendwhointernedatCosmo.Shesaidtheyactuallyrecycleadviceeveryfewyears,too,sincetheirtargetdemographicisso
smallandhasafairlyfrequentturnover.
Sonotonlyisitbadadvice,it'soldadvice.
Disclaimer:shecould'vebeentotallybullshittingandIhavenoproof
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[] ducklord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Nope.They'rejustidiots.Mostlyfemaleandgayidiots.
I'mnomisogynist,nordoIhategaypeople.Iwasabitofan"insider":Iworkedforatechmag,inapublishinghousethatalso
publishedlotsofmagazinesforwomen.Manymanywomenandmostlygaymenworkedforthosespecificpublications.Manymanyof
themthatImetandtalkedwithweresimplyidiots,trulybelievingtheshittheywrote.Asanexample,Irememberahugelyfatwoman
thatwroteaboutfashion.Shealwaysranaroundwithsomethinglikeaflowerytinyhatonherhead,thinkingitwasafashionstatement.
Shelookedliketryingtocoveranobsceneamountofunsightlyfleshbyputtingacherryontop.Liketheanecdoteofanelephanthiding
behindatulip(neversawone?Seehowgreatthey'reathiding?)...
Andnope,Idon'thaveanythingagainstfatpeopleaswellIwasoneupuntilsomeyearsago,andhaveafriendwhohasasimilar
bodytype.Thedifferenceisthatheknowsit'saproblemofhis,asIdid.Andheneverevertriedto"camouflage"itwithafloweronhis
head.
Andlet'snotgetstartedonthemoronswhowroteabouthoroscopes.Iwasoncespeakingwithagirlwhoworkedforsuchamagand
deeplybelievedinthem,andshekeptinsisting"theytellthetruth","theycanshowyoutheway"blahblah.Iaskedherhowcomemy
"sign"tellthatI'manadventuryandactiontype,wheninrealityI'mmoreofasloth.Shedidn'thaveananswerbuttriedtorationalize
thattherearedifferenttypesofcosmicenergiesthatblahblah.ThenIremindedherofonefamouspersonthat"reliedonthestarsto
tellhimwhattodo":Hitler.Sheshutup.
Idobelievethatmanymany(didIsay"many"enough?)ofthegaymenthatworkinmagazineslikethat,though,writewhattheydoon
purpose.Somedon't,andtheyreallylovewomenandbelievethatwhattheywriteis,indeed,useful.Unfortunately,theidiotswin:
throughtheyears,itwasn'tjustonetimethatIoverheardsomeofthemtalkingabout"howtheywroteshitaboutfatcows"andstufflike
that.It'sadifferentkindofidiotthereweremanyofthemthathonestlybelievedthatiftheymadewomenlookandactridiculous,men
wouldturngayand"they'dhavemoreoptions".
Imean,theyweren'tALLlikethat,butforreals,Imetalotofbasketcaseswhilesimplywritingtutorialson"howtorebootyourLinux
server"onthetechmagthatwasbutatinyspeckamongapileofcrapgettingpublished.Anditfeltpainfultoreallytryto"spreadthe
knowledge"andwatchyourmagsellingafractionofwhatthosewastesofpapersold.
Bytheway,toallwomenoutthere:doyouevenTHINKbeforebuyingbeautyproducts?Doyoureadthetinyletteringthatspecifically
mentions"clinicalstudieson10women",or"awesomeproduct(asmentionedbytwentywomenwecalled)"?Haveyoueverasked
yourselfwhothehelldoesaclinicalstudyforaMEDICALcream('cause,youknow,youspreadthisshitonyourface)onjustTEN
women?Iftheycherrypicked"thetwentywomenthatsaiditwasawesome"from500phonecalls,480ofwhichsaid"itsucked"?
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[] lookslikespam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thosethingsarenotmutuallyexclusive.Lotsoforganizationsbenefitfromtheirmembers/employeesbeingidiots.Thepeopleatthe
topcaneasilyarrangeit.
Thisistheeconomicconceptcalleda'perverseincentive'.Anothersuchexample:theEPAmaycauseendangeredanimalstobe
killedingreaternumbersthaniftheydidn'ttrytoprotectthematall.Ifsomeonebuysapropertythathappenstobehometoan
endangeredspecies,theywillnotbeabletodevelopit.Theycan'tsellitbecausetheyarerequiredbylawtodisclosetheexistence
oftheanimalsandnobodyisgoingtobuyapropertysoencumbered.Theusualadvicepeoplegive:shoot,shovel,shutup.Aslong
asyouridyourpropertyoftheendangeredanimalsbeforeanyonerealizesthatthey'rethereanddestroytheevidencethoroughly,
thenyou'reprobablyintheclear.
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[] AGFHDG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisislifestylemagazinesingeneral,butmorespecifically,withCosmopolitan,it'saquestionofmarketingtoyouths.Youdon'tneedto
purposefullyput'bad'adviceinyourmagazinetogetrepeatbuyers,ifanything,you'remoreincentivizedtoputgoodadviceinthere
becausetherewillalwaysbeanewgenerationofteenagerstobuyyourproductastheoldergeneration'agesout'.
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[] ThisIsOurHillOfBeans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
marketing101
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[] ristorilsm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"nexttimeyougiveablowjob,useteeth!"
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[] knitta_wit_attitude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireadonethatadvisedputtingacoupleicecubesinyourcheeksnexttimeyougiveablowjob.Ooolala
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[] thatbelinda undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iactuallytriedthatone.Also,toothpaste.
Accordingtohim,itwas"okay".
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[] Aarjbar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Teethinblowjobsareseriouslyunderrated.
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[] runAUG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Definitelyreadthatguysenjoytheirdickgettingbittenafewyearsagointhatmagazine.
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[] offandon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'tsomeeventuallyrealizethattheadvicegivenisbadandthusstopbuyingit?
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[] place_order_here undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onasimilarvein,theyprovidepurposefullybaddatingandsextipstokeeppeoplewhobuythemforcomedicallybadtipscomingback.
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[] UnapologeticalyAlive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salsopossiblethattheirwritersareallsinglewomenwhoareterribleatdating,whichiswhythey'resingle.Neverattributetomalice
thatwhichcanbeattributedtoincompetence.
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Itdoesn'tseemlikelythatsomanypeoplewhoareincompetentinthesamewaywouldallendupworkinginthesameplaceand
thengraduallybereplacedbyotherslikethemforseveraldecadesifthatwasn'ttheintention.
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[] UnapologeticalyAlive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfImadeamagazineaboutengineeringwhereeverywriterwasrequiredtobefiveyearsold,allthearticleswouldsuck
foreverwithoutmehavingtoconspiretomakeitso.
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[] fappyday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cosmosextip#23:Wannareallyspiceupablowjob?Surprisehimbygarglinghotsaucebeforeyougodownonhim.
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[] roomandcoke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andgeneratemoremoneyfortheiradvertisers.Who'smorelikelytogooutandbuyanewwardrobeandmakeupandslimfast,the
onewho'scontentwithherselfandherrelationshiportheonewhojustgotoutofoneandislookingtoattractanewpotentialboyfriend.
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[] FatGrLzNeedLuv undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverytimethispostcomesupIcommentthis...Youbeatmetothepunchforonce...Damnyou
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Mind=Blown
Ineverthoughtaboutthisandalwaysthoughtitwasgarbagetalboidthatappealedtothelowestcommondenominator.Thismakesa
hellofalotmoresensenow.ItalwaysbotheredmethatCosmogotapassforthebullshittheyspewbutiftheyflippedgendersinstead,
everyonewouldlosetheirmind.
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[] jfoust2 163points
Thesamecould'vebeensaidaboutanymen'smagazine.
Thatis,backinthedaybeforetheInternet.Nowthere'sjustReddittogivethemtheoptionofpooradviceandgoodadvice.
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Ifellforclickbaitthatledtoawebsitegearedtowardsmen(mighthaveevenbeenamagazine'ssite),andthatwasmyfirstthought.
ItwasCosmoformen.
"20WaystoMakeHerOrgasmBetter!"followedbywtfadvice.
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[] imadogperson77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samecouldbealsosaidaboutonlinedatingwebsites...it'sintheirbestinteresttokeeptheircustomerbasesingleratherthan
successfullymatchthemupwithanyone.
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[] hansnofranz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LittledopeopleknowthatdatingsitesarethefirstactofSkynet.Thecodeisdesignedtoreducethereproductionofthe
Resistance.
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Serialmonogamymeansyou'redoingitoverandover.
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[] Krombopulos_Micheal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sthedumbestthingI'veeverheard,godyou'redumb.....am..amIneggingright?
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Ithinkso!YousaidonRedditthatyouwerecoveredinbabes,soitmustbeworking!
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GQmaygivehorribledatingadvice,buttheydamnsureknowhowtopickclothesformen.
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[] CelestialWalrus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justdon'tlistentoanydatingadvice...It'sbetterthisway.
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[] speaks_in_redundancy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtleastonRedditthebadadviceislabeledIANAL/s
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[] qwertonomics 3points
Hanlon'srazor
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[] IpsoKinetikon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/ShitCosmoSays
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[] enchiladaarmadillo 3340points
Thatseemsaboutright.Onasimilarwavelength,companieswhichmakeandsellfoundationpurposelydesignittomakebadskin
worse,sothatyoucan'tstopusingitunlessyouarereadytofullyembraceyourbadskin,althoughhidingyourfacewastheinitial
reasonyouwentonit.Viciouscircle.
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Maybeifyouhad"bad"skin(somethingaboutyourskinyouwanttocover)it'ssomethingthatnaturallyintensifiesasyouage.
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I'mconvincedthisistrueofchapstick.Itsoothesintheshorttermanddriesoutyourskinafterawhile.
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[] funkmasterastronaut undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ormaybecloggingyourporeswithanythingwillcausepeopletobreakout
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[] GISP undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Actualy,anycreamsthatpenetratesdeeperthantheoutmostlayermustbeclassifiedasmedicin,andbefullydocumented.
Sowhenthedaythatactualantiagingcreamorwhateverrealyismade.Itwillbesoldatapharmacy,notacosmeticsshop.
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[] culturehackerdude undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThetwomostbeautifulwomenIknow(inreallife,notcelebrities)donotandhaveneverwornmakeup.Ithink30yearsofrubbing
stuffintoandoffofyourfacemakesitagefasterandprobablymessesuptheskin'snaturalchemistry.ButIwearmakeupbecause
mydeepest,darkesttanisthesecondlightestfoundationshade.
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[] timkran undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewhohasspentmanyyearsworkinginthecosmeticsindustry,you'dbesurprisedthatpeopledon'trealizethatmaybe
notwashingthemakeupoffoftheirfacesmightcontributetothebreakoutcycle.Manypeoplealsodon'trealizethatmoisturizer
shouldgoontheirfacetoo.
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[] whoremaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MostShampoo,andchapstick,andacnefacialsoap,alldothesamething.Createadependence.
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[] toshitalk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkedatamajorskincareprovidersrandddivision.Atourlabatleast,thisisnottrue.
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[] JumpedAShark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Spreadshampoo/conditionerthroughhair.Rinseandrepeat."
Therinseandrepeatseemsmostlyforthepurposeofmakingyoubuymore.
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[] sootsprites undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ActuallyI'veusedalotoffoundationsthatimprovemyskinIdon'tmeanbycoveringitupbutbyphysicallyreducingthesizeof
blemishes/clearingitupwithinadayofwearingit.Somefoundationsactuallycontainhyaluronicacidwhichisamazingforyour
skin.Don'tbuythecheapstuff,people.It'sexpensiveforareason.Seriously,Ihavesleptwithmakeuponbeforeandwokeupwith
betterskin.(HighlyrecommendTooFacedBornThisWayfoundation)Source:Iamamakeupartist
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[] LilithKDuat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So...theplotofHalleBerry'sCatwoman?
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[] Knot_My_Name undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifullybelievethis,myskinwasgreatbeforeIstartedusingfoundation,IusedittohideafewdarkspotswhileIwasworking,and
nowmyfaceisamesswithoutit.Blotchy,dry,allkindsofproblems.Idon'tusecheapshiteitherbecauseIwantedtoavoidthis
problem.
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[] MessrMonsieur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Prettysureit'sbeenprovenforthingslikelipbalm,driesoutyourskinafterprovidingtemporaryrelief
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[] AlexSmythe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iheardthatchapstickactuallyjustmakesyourlipsdrier,whichequatestopeoplepurchasingmorechapstick.
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[] liarliarplants4hire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisVisine.IfuckinghateVisineandClearEyes,asaneyedoc.It'sonlygoodifyou'rehighorhungover...Infrequently.
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Andlensemakersgiveyouglasses/contactsthatworsenyourvisionsoyouneedconstantupgradesandyouneedthemmoreafter
wearingthem.
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[] violettheory undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisathingwithlipbalmtoo.Manycheaporflavorfocusedlipbalmscontainsomekindofalcoholwhichworkstodrythebalm
outquicker,whichmakesyourlipsdryer,whichmakesyouusemorelipbalm.I'venevercheckedtheingredientswiththisone
particularbrand,butI'm90%certainEOShasalcoholinitbecauseitworksSOmuchworsethanmanyothersI'vetried.Ithinkthey
onlysellbecausetheyareacuteshape.
Justgiveanylipbalmyoubuyaquickglanceovertocheckforanythingendinginanol,it'sprobablyanalcohol.
I'dpersonallyrecommendBurt'sBees.Ihaven'thadmanyproblemwiththem,otherthanbeingmoreexpensive.
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[] lazylion_ca undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KindoflikeArmourAllwillwreckyourdashifyoustopusingit.
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[] today2day undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GodIwishpeoplewouldrealizeifyoujustwashyourskinproperlyandputnaturalthingsonitformoisturize,exfoliate,and
whateverinsteadofcrapoverpricedproductstheirskinwouldbesonicetheywouldn'tneedskinmakeup.
Seriously.Iwashitwithlikeeggwhitesandwarmwater,begentle,coldwater,warmwaterandhoney,done.Sometimesdifferent
fruitorcharcoalpeels.Usesugartoexfoliate.Massagefacemusclesgentletwiceaday.Keephairoutofface.Changepillowcase.
MyskinlookslikeIhavemakeupon.Idon'twearmakeup.
Ifyoudowanttouseproductskoreanbrandsarethebest.Ifnotusenaturalthingsyouprobablyalreadyhaveinyourkitchen.
Ijustdon'tgetwhypeoplewastesomuchmoneyandtimedoingmakeupdaily,whenyoucouldsavealotoftimeandeffortjust
takingcareofyourskin.Makeupisbadandclogsyourporesanyway.Ughhhhhhhhhhh.Rantover.
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[] WakkaIsTheWorst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What?No.Somepeoplehaveskinallergiesandsomedon't.Leavinganysubstanceonyourfaceallthetimewithoutproper
cleansingwillresultinbadskin,foundationornot.
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[] triciamilitia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LiketheChapstickscam.
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[] _River_Song_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butfoundationdoesn'tmakeyourskinworse.itcanactuallymakeitbetter.Justwashitoffattheendoftheday
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[] Maniacal_Musings undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
companieswhichmakeandsellfoundationpurposelydesignittomakebadskinworse
Well..technicallyapersonusingfoundationandmanyothercosmeticsistechnicallyrubbingatypeofdirtofsomespecificcolorin
totheirskinandpores.
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Goodfoundationdoesn'tdothis!
It'sworthistoshelloutfortheexpensivestuff.Itlastslongerandisbetterforyourskin.
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[] scarabic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AlsoCarmexlipbalm,samething.Itfeelsgoodtoapplyittoyourchappedlipsbutthatmintytastingingredientinitisalsoamild
irritant,causingyoutoneedtoapplymorelipbalm.
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Cheapfoundationmakesyoubreakoutbecauseit'scheapandmadewithshit.Expensivefoundationdoesnot.
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[] northwasted undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisistheplotofCatwomanmovie
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[] matt8726384 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Samewithbodybuildingmagazines!
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[] kingeryck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
oryouspend8xasmuchataplacelikeSephora.
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Thisisdefinitelythecasewithlipbalm.
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IneverhaddandruffuntilIstartedusingHeadandShoulders
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YES.I'vebeensayingthisforyears.Mostfacewashesandmoisturizershavesalicylicacidwhichisaningredientthateffectively
driesoutyourskin.Goodforzits.However,ifyou'reconstantlyputtingthatstuffonyourface,itsgoingtodryoutyourskin.Dryskin
clogsporesandthuscausesacneandohnooopsyouneedtobuymore.
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[] ryanmonroe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfthatweretrueIcouldstartafoundationcompanythatdoesn'thavethesecret"bad"ingredientandtakeoverthefoundation
market!
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[] Hesher1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallythisissortoftruebutitsjustmorenatural,Irememberreadingaboutthisguywhojustlivedonhisownforayearlikehe
wentall"IntotheWild".
Hementionedhisskinwasclearafterafewmonths,healsonevershoweredandhementionedafterawhilehewasabletoreally
smellpeoplewhoshowerlikeitwasfairlystrong.Buthealsosaidtheycanprobablysmellhimfrommilesawayalsohaha
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Ihaveheardthisistrueaboutconcealedtargetedtowardsdarkundereyecircles!Theyputstuffinthemtoomakethemdarker
overtime.
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[] hahastonedem undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Source?
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[] Anthemize undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mylipsfeelworseafterusingblistex
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[] sammy_nobrains undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhaveasimilartheoryaboutClinique'sskincare(3step).Itallhasashittonofsalycylicacidinit,whichcanbechemicaloverload
forsomepeople,causingthemtobreakout,thususingmoreproductinanattempttoclearitup.IknowseveralCliniquereps,and
theyareinstructedtotellcustomersthattheirfacewilllikelybreakoutwithinitialuse,butthat'stheproduct"drawingoutthetoxins".
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[] mi2chaeletc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotjustfoundationIwouldimagine,anyfacewashorevenshampooisdesignedtomakeyoubecomereliantuponit.
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Cliniqueiswhereit'sat
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I'mnotsureifconcealeradothatbutI'mprettydamnsureChapstickonlyofferstemporaryreliefbeforeturningyourlipstomolting
snakelevelofdryness.
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[] Siicktiits undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
chapstickisthesamething,itdestroysyourlipsnaturalabilitiestoproducemoisturemakingyoudependentonchapstickforlife.so
evil.
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[] BiggestBossMan35 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'tthattheplottoCatwoman?
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[] mrizzerdly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Chapstickdefinitelydoesthis.
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[] FreakinKrazy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orithardensyourskinsoyou'rebasicallybulletproof.Youmightendupfightin'catwomanonarooftophaha.
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[] tonyray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeadandShouldersworksthisway.I'minasituationrightnowwhereI'mfarfrommynormallifeandcivilization.Forthefirsttwo
weeksmyeyebrowsweregettingsuchbaddandruffthattherewerebleeding.Now,myhairandeyebrowsaregreat,noshampoo.
Myhair,notevensoaprightnow,noflakes.
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YeahI'mstillgettingdandruffsinceI'vebeenusingheadandshouldersdaily.
Gonnaseeifstoppingshampoocompletelywillsolvethatproblem.
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[] kittenkinesis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maketheswitchtosulfateandsiliconefree.Yourhairgetsgreasyforabit,butafteryourscalpgetssomuchhealthier.
Traditionalshampoosandconditionersstripalotofnaturaloilanddoingthatconstantlydamagesyourhairandscalp
health.IhavehadterribleitchypainfulbumpsofbuilduponmyscalpuntilIswitched.
Myrecommendation,traderjoesteatreetingleshampooandconditioner.Theoilinitisgreatfordandruff.Alsoit'slike
twobucksinthestore.
Mysecondrecommendation,lookuphowtomakeabrownsugarscalpscrub.Soeasytowhiptogetherandmyscalp
feltsogreatandcleananddandruff/buildupfree.
Manyhairandscalpissuescomefromoverwashingtoo.Overwashingwithregularshampoocanreallyincreasethe
damageandmakeunwantedsymptomsmuchworse.
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[] N8CCRG undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veheardsimilarcomplaintsaboutchapstickactuallydryingoutyourlipsinthelongterm.
Idon'teverusechapstickandmylipsneverseemtodryout,nomatterhowdrythewintergets,sothere'sonedatapoint.
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[] queefiest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyskingotbetterwhenIstartedusingfoundation...IstilluseiteventhoughIhavenoblemishes,becausenohumanhasaneven
skintone.
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Yeahfoundationalwaysmakesmelookhellabetterinasubtleway
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[] Helenarth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veheardthatfromalotofpeople,Iguessit'sbecauselotsoffoundationshaveaddedmoisturisingorantibacterialagentsto
helpwithdrynessorspots.Also,Iknowalotofgirlswhofindtheirskinlooksbetterwhentheywearmakeupforafewdays
becausetheymakesuretocleanseandmoisturisewhentheyremovetheirmakeup,buttheydon'tnormallydoskincare.
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Also,I'mprettysurealotofbreathmintsmakeyourbreathsmellworseoncethey'refullydissolved.
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[] Steplo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworefoundationinmyearlytwentiesforthelongesttimeandIwascontinuallyfrustratedwithhowfakeitmademyskinlook,the
timeittooktoapplyeveryday,andhowawfulmyskinlookedunderneath.EventuallyIjustthought'effit.I'mdonewithfoundation.'
Afterafewmonthsoflettingmyskinbreathe,everythingclearedupandInolongerneededfoundation.
I'mnotsayingthisisthesituationforeveryone,butpersonallyIwassogratefulfortakingthatconfidenceleapandgoingoutwitha
nakedface.
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[] msvivica undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nottoundermineyourselfempoweringmessagehere,butitsoundslesslikea'confidenceleap'andmorelikeresignation...
WhichisnottosaythatIhaven'tmadethesameexperiencemyself!:D
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[] Steplo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasaresignationinthefactthatIdidn'twanttobotherwithitanymore.ButaresignationinthefactthatIknewthere
wasapossibilityofmyskinclearinguponitsown,andthatittookatonofcourage(Iknow,itisjustmakeup,butstill)to
makethatdecision.
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[] msvivica undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ah,ifyouknewthatwasapossibility,thenIguessitwasagoalorientedstep.Ihonestlyjustresignedoneday
anddecidedeverybodyelsehadtodealwiththedisasterasitwas.
ButI'mnotdenyingthatittakesalotofcourage.IfiguredoutthatIwasusingmakeupasamaskanda
psychologicaldefencemechanism,andIthinkI'mnottheonlyonewhoeverthoughttohidebehindmakeup.I
guessthedifferenceisthatyouhadhopesofanimprovement,Ididn't,whichmakesthedifference...
I'mgladitworkedoutforyoueitherway!^
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[] no_im_batman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iworkedinthecosmeticindustryfor5yearsandtheydon'tdesignanythingtointentionallymakeyourskinworse.Thesecond
womenthinkthatsomethingisaffectingtheirskintheywillswitch,andmostlikelywillnotjustswitchtoadifferentformulabutwill
switchtoanentirelydifferentbrand.Womenwon'tpay$50fora2monthsupplyoffoundationifitmakesthembreakout.Andifthey
switchonethingtheywilllikelyendupswitchingeverythingwhichisevenworseforthecompany.Theyneedbrandloyalty.Same
goesforthebasicskincare(cleansersandmoisturizers),theyneedittoworkforyousothatyoubelievethatonlythatbrandworks
withyourskin.Mostlikelybadskincomesfromsimplethingslikewearingmakeuptobedorusingyourhandstoapply
foundation/concealer.Thatbeingsaid,thingsliketonerandeyemakeupremoverarenotneededanymore,butwewere
encouragedtoselltheskincare"set"insteadofsinglepieces.Thebiggestthingtheydotogetyourmoneyisanythinglimited
edition.Allthosecolorsareusuallythesameasstandardcolorsbutinprettierpackaging.Or,ifitisanactuallimitedcolor,they
cyclethroughthe10limitedcolorsaboutoncetwoyears.Plusifyoufallinlovewithoneofthosecolorsthatjustmeansyoucan't
stockupandwilllikelyenduptrying3or4differentcolorsjusttogetclosetothatonemagicalshadeyoumayneverfindagain
unlessyou'realwayscheckingthestore.
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Idon'tthinkit'sasimmediate&obviousasbreakouts.WhenIcomparemyskintothatofmymakeupwearingfriends,they
havealotmorewrinkles.Ican'thelpbutthinkthatovertime,themakeupworsenstheaffectsofaging.Imean,itseems
unlikelythatpaintingyourfaceisgoodforyourskin.
Idon'tknow,maybeI'mjustgeneticallylucky,orbetteratwearingsunscreen,butIdothinkit'saconflictofinterestfor
makeupcompaniestowantyourskintolookbetterwithoutusingtheirproduct.
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Twokeywords:geneticsandsunscreen:)Mostcompanieschargemuchmoreforskincareproductsthantheydofor
foundationfortheexactreasonyousaidpeoplewanttheirskintolookgoodwithoutmakeup.That'swherecleansers,
serums,daymoisturizer,nightmoisturizer,eyecream,etcallcomein.Andtheywillsellyouallofit.ThelastlineI
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workedforhadserumthatwas$500/bottlethatlastedmaybe3months.Foundationontheotherhand,lastsafew
monthsandthemostexpensiveformulawas$75forthesameline.Theymakewaymoremoneyonsellingproducts
designedtohelpfixyourflawsthanonproductsdesignedtohidethemsotheywanttogetyouhookedontheskincare.
Theywanttomaketheproductthatfixesyourproblems.Andpeoplewon'tkeepbuyingaproductthatdoesn'twork.
Thethingisthatpeoplewillalwayshavesomethingtheywanttohide/enhance/fix/change.Sowhywouldtheyneedto
makeyourskinworse?Peoplewillfindanewproblemtheywantfixedassoonastheygetoverthelastone.Youmove
andallofasuddenyourskinthatwasalwaysoilyisnowdry.Yougetpregnantandnowyourhormonesaremakingyou
breakout.Yourskinisclearandbeautiful,butyouwishitwasjustalittlemoreradiant...there'salwayssomething.And
allthetimethat'shappeningyou'regettingolderandthenyouwanttofighttheinevitableproblemsthatcomewith
aging.
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Butthat'swhatyouwouldsay.)
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LolIcan'targuewiththatlogic
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[] Cianalas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iheardsomewherethat"agedefying"makeupactuallymakesyourskinagefasterifyouuseitregularly,requiringyoutobuy
more.Isthereanytruthtothisthatyouknowof?
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[] ptera_tinsel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybewearingmakeupthatmakesyoulookyoungerfrequentlydistortsyourmentalimageofwhatyoulooklikeand
afterawhilethedisparitymakesyoustartjudgingyouragingmuchmoreharshly?
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Ihaven'theardofthatbutIthinkit'sthesameasmakeupcausingblemishes....Alotofthetimeit'swhatyouaren'tdoing
foryourskinthatcausesthemostdamage.Notdrinkingenoughwaterornotusingamoisturizerforyourface/eyeswill
makeyourwrinklesmorepronouncedbecauseyourskinwilllookmoredull.
Thethingabout"agedefying"cosmeticsismostlythatthepeopleusingitexpectsurgicalresultsfromabottle.Allofthe
picturestheyusetoshowhowgreataproductisarecherrypickedtoshowthebestresults.Theproductswillhelp,but
theywon'tmakeeveryimperfectiondisappearovernight.
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[] Cianalas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ah,thankyouforyouranswer.I'vebeenwantingtotrythisstufftoseeifitworksbutIwasterrifieditwouldhave
theseadverseeffectssoIstayedaway.Idrinkwaterlikecrazyandmyskinisstillprettygood,butIknowthat
won'tlastforever.
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IfyoucangetitfromadepartmentstoreIwouldbuyitthere.Mosthaveveryliberalreturnpoliciesifyou
don'tlikesomething.It'snotuncommonforthemtotakebackahalfusedbottleofmoisturizerbecause
someonewashavingabadreactiontoit.They'lltrytogetyoutoexchangeitratherthanstraightreturnit,
butatleastthatwayyouwon'tloseyourmoneyonsomething,andmostofthetimewon'tfighttoohardif
youdowanttojustreturnit.Askaboutthestoresreturnpolicywhenyou'rebuyingit:)
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[] uncopyrightable undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'salsoalotelsegoingoninthosephotostoobetterlightningorangle,moreflatteringmakeup(besidesthe
agedefyingcreamorwhatever).Soit'strueinthatit'sbefore/aftertheirproduct,butit'sbefore/afterabunchof
otherchangestoo.
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[] Gertiel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Plusifyoufallinlovewithoneofthosecolorsthatjustmeansyoucan'tstockup
Nowyoucanusuallygetanythingifyouhuntaroundamazon,ebay,andetsy.Sometimesitcostsmore,butmosttimesifyou
huntabityoucanfinditthesamepriceorpossiblyforless.Ijustgot3tubesofmyfavoriteEsteeLauderlipcolorforfarless
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thanIpaidfortheoriginal.
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Ebay,etsy,amazonaregreatGettingitforlessthatwhatyoupaidfortheoriginalisagreatdeal.Sometimesyouget
luckywiththat.ButI'vealsoseenMAClimitededitionitemsuponebayforwaymorethanretailWhenthe2014
RihannaTalkThatTalklipstickwasreleaseditwasselllinoverahundredbucksonebay....plusifyoubuysecondhand
youruntheriskofgettingafake.Itcouldbeassimpleasthecolorbeingslightlyoff,oryoucouldgetsomethingthat
youhavenoideawhattheymadeitwith.
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[] Malari_Zahn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ratherthantheriskofpurchasingafake,I'mactuallymoreconcernedabouttheageandhandlingoftheproduct
itself.Makeupstartstoturnrancidwithage,atleastliquid/creammakeupwill.
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[] Gertiel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamsureyoucouldpotentiallygetafake,butitisgoingtobeincrediblyrare.Theproblemwiththatideaisa
sellerwhosellsfakesisgoingtogetabadratingquickly.Iguessthereprobablyarewaystojustkeepsettingup
multipleaccounts,butyou'reonlygoingtogetsofarwiththataseachaltquicklybuildsabadreputation.Isell
onlineandIcantellyoutheslightestwhiffofapoorratingonanysalecanhavelonglastingrepercussions.
Vendorschatamongthemselvesandwealldoallwecantoavoidthat.Itjustisn'tworththeconsequences.All
thestuffIhavepurchasedthiswaywasstillintheoriginalpackagingandshowednoevidenceofeverhaving
beenopened.Ihaveneverhadtheslightestissue.
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Fakesareallover.Sometimesthey'resogoodyouwon'tknowthedifferenceunlessyouareveryfamiliar
withtheproductasinyouknowifthelogoissupposetobesohighfromthebaseofthepackageandthe
textonthelabelissupposetobeblack,notgrey.IIhaveafakeMACbrushthatIgotonebaywhenIwasin
myteens.Theonlywayyoucantellisthelogodoesn'thavethespaceintheletters,andittookmeafew
yearstorealizethat.It'sagreatbrushandworthwhatIpaidforit,butit'snotMAC.
Thesedayssellersrelyonagoodreputationtostayinbusiness,andIapplaudyouformakingsureyou
onlyhavequalityproducts.ItsoundslikeyouaretheykindofsellerIwouldwanttobuyfromifi'minthe
marketforsomethingspecific.ButIknowwhattowatchforalotofpeopledon'tandwilljustbuywhatever
ischeapestbecausetheythinkit'sagooddeal.
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[] FluffyWof undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyaren'teyemakeupremoverandtonerneededanymore?
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Mostcleanserswilltakeoffeyemakeupwithoutbeingharmfultoyoureyesormakingyouworkatgettingthemakeup
off.ThereareonlyafewthingsIuseeyemakeupremoverfor:removingtemporarytattoos,takingoffeyelashglueand
glitter,andifIdoaveryverydarkeyelookbutthat'sonlysoIdon'thavetoscrubmyeyes.Onanynormaldaymy
cleanserwilltakeitoffeasilyandmy"normalday"isaneyelidprimer,23shadows,liner,eyelashprimer,and2coats
ofmascara.
Iwroteanothercommentaboutwhytonerisn'tnecessarybutit'sbecausecleansersaredesignedtobemorebalanced
now.That'salsowhyyoudon'tseeasmanytonersbeingsold,especiallytotheyoungergeneration.
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Doyouhaveapicofwhateyeslooklikeafterallofthat?MygfwearsjusteyelineronlyandIcouldhardlytellthe
difference
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Idon'tusuallyputpicsofmymakeuponlinebutgoogle"NaturalEyeMakeup"thefirstimageresultis
prettyclose.Eyelidprimeristoholdtheshadowinplaceandisfleshtonedsoitisn'tnoticeablebyitself,
neitheristheeyelashprimer.Ihaveblondelashesandlikethemtolooklongsothat'swhyIwear2coatsof
mascara.Iusuallydoasmallwingonmyeyeliner.It'saprettysimplelookandtakesmelessthan5minto
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[] nina00i undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whyistonernotneededanymore?
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TonerisdesignedtorebalancethepHlevelofyourskin.Thiswasbecausecleansersusetobemuchmoreharshand
leftmorebehindonyourskin.Cleansersthesedayshaveamuchbetterbalanceandarebetterformulatedtobegin
with.Aslongasyouareusingthecorrecttypeofcleanserforyourskintypeyouwon'tneedatoner
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[] ninety4kid undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dang...Imagineifdentistpaidtoothpastecompaniestomaketoothpastethatrequiresthemtobetreatedmoreoften.Lol.
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[] SinkTube undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowaboutfoundation,butit'safactthatmanychapsticks,whicharesupposedtomoisturizeyourlips,actuallydrythemout.
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Yup.Mentholandalcoholcancauseirritationanddrynessbutthey'reinalotoflipbalms.
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[] jay212127 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Proactiveisreallybadforthis(toclearacne).Itimposesaphbalancedifferentfromnormalskin,ifusedregularlyitkeepsskin
clear.Ifyoustopusingityourfacebreaksoutwhenittriestoitsnormalph.
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Idon'tatallbelievethatthesoulpurposeoffoundationistohideyourzitsandclogyourpores.Themakeupbizisjustlikethepaint
business.Foundation(whilepartiallycoveringblemishedaswell)worksasafoundation(hencethename)orprimerforyourmake
up.(Whenyoupaintahouse,youprimeitfirst,itmakesthepaintstaybetter/longer)Formanyyears,itwastotallyuncooltowalk
aroundwithanoily,shiny,greasylookingface.Foundationistheprimerforpowder,whichissupposedtokeepyourskinlooking
evenandfresh,withappropriatetouchupsthroughouttheday.Withoutit,powder,blushes,andbronzersdon'tsticktotheskin
wellatallbecausetheskinproducesoilsconstantly.Thephrase"powderyournose"whilealsoacocainereference,stemmedfrom
atimewhenitwasinappropriateforwomentohaveashiny/oilynose.Unfortunatelywiththepopularityof"contour"rightnow,the
acceptablebeautystandardatthemomentistowearsomuchmakeupthatitlookslikeyoucanscoopitoffyourfacewithaspoon.
Foundationsalonenormallywilldoverylittleyoucoverblemishesanyway.Youneedacombinationofproducts(coverstick,
foundation,powder,)tocoverdarkspots,zitsorwhatever.IknowwhenIdofulleyemakeupwithoutafoundation,eyemakeup
doesnotlastnearlyaslongandIhavetotouchupfarmoreoftenthroughoutthedaythanifIdoprimerandfoundationfirst.
Iabsolutelyadmireallthemenherewhopreferamorenaturallookfortheirfemalecounterparts.Thatallweeverwantfromyouis
acceptanceforournaturalbeauty,buthonestly,whenweslatherourfacesin25layersofcreams,powders,andcolors,itsnot
reallyforyou.Itsforus,anditsbecauseofsocietystandardsofwhatawomanshouldlooklike.Also,whenwethinkwelookbetter,
wefeelbetter.
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[] TeaTimeTelevision undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethisone.Igoteczemaonmyfaceanditwastoodrytowearmakeup,Ididn'thaveacnesoitwasn'tthatbad.Afterawhile
myskinwashealthyenoughtowearmakeupagain!Afteronlyafewdays(differentbrandstoo)Ihadlittlepimplesallovermy
nose.Iexfoliatedandnowonlywearmakeupforspecialoccasions.
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[] Eepaman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
hugedifference.
afoundationcanbeobjectivelybadforyou,ifitcontainssomethingthatmakesyourskindryupwhenitsaysitwon't.
thatyoucansuecompaniesfor.
datingadviceisdifferentbecausetherearenoobjectivelybestdatingadvicesotheycanbullshit.
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[] lustywench99 1707points
Idon'tthinkallfoundationdoesthis.Ithinkalotofmakeupcompaniesgivenofucksifitbreakspeopleout,butmyskinalsogives
nofuckssoIdon'thaveanyilleffects.Idothinkcraplike"healthy"foundationorfoundationthatimprovesyourskinbywearingitis
bs.
IwillsayIgetusedtothelookofthefakeevencolorandthetexture.IfeellikeIhardlyrecognizemyfacewithoutmakeup.My
husbanddisagreesandsayshecanhardlytellifIhavemakeuponornot.So...byhisassessmentitmakesnodifferenceifIsmear
ona$50foundationeverydaybecauseitlooksaboutthesame.Andyet...Istilldoit.Why?I'mbrainwashedisallIcanfigure...
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Ithinkwearingsomemakeupmakesgirlslookbetter,butIdon'tthinkfoundationisimportant
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[] Pangea87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveridiculouslygoodskinbecauseofgenetics(butfatdisgustingbody....Godisfair)andI'vetriedfoundationmaybeabout
4timesinmywholelife.Itmakesmelooklikeacreepywaxdoll.Ilikehowitlooksonotherpeople...it'sjusthorribleonme.
Butittakesmelike2minutestogetmyfacereadyonadailybasissothat'sgood.Ispendtherestofthehourtryingtomake
myclotheslookslimmingandquellingintenseselfhatredforbeingacow.
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[] quetzalKOTL undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearedefinitelybetterorworsekindsoffoundations.Itsoundslikeyourskinisprettytolerant,whichisgreat,butit'spretty
commonforcertainingredientstobreakpeopleout."Healthy"foundationsareusuallytheonesthattrytoeliminateeverything
fromthatlist(quiteachore)orarecosmeticsmixedwithactiveproducts.Hell,ifyouhavedryskin,asimplymoisturizing
foundationdoesimproveyourskin.I'mnotsayingthey'reallgood,buttheyaren'tallbad,either.
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[] ShinLaC undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asaguy,Idefinitelynoticeagirl'sskin,anditdoesmakeabigdifferenceinhowattractivesheis.Theonlypeoplewhosay
otherwisearechildrenwhoseconsciousunderstandingoffemaleattractivenessstopsat"hurrdurrtitsandbutts".Ithinkyour
husbandisjustsayingwhathefeelshehastosay.
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[] fille_du_nord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwillsaythatIhavehorrendousacneproneskinbutthemedicatedcoveruphasactuallycontrolledmonthlybreakoutsbetter
forme.
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[] Tom_44 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itdoesn'thavetobeabadthingora"brainwashing"situation.
Ifspendingthatmoneyandapplyingthatmakeupmakesyoufeelhappy,andmakesyoufeelmoreliketheversionofyouthat
youwanttobe,thendon'tletanyonetellyoutostop.
Ofcourse,ifonedayyourealizeyoudon'tcareaboutitanymore,feelfreetostopbuyingit.That'sthebeautyofbeingan
adult.Youdowhateverthefuckyouwantbecauseit'syourlife!
Asfarasdatingsomeone,that'saboutaskingaboutexpectationsandmakesureyourexpectationsandtheirsoverlapenough
sothatyoucanlivetogetherhappily.I'msureyou'veheardallthisbefore,butforanyoneelseouttherejustremembertobe
you.
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[] s1eep undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'tspeakforallmen,butIcantellwhenwomenarewearingfoundationandIfinditunattractive.Tomeitspeaksof
insecurityandawanttopretendthattheworldissomethingotherthanitis.Ican'tsayifthat'strueornot,butit'sthe
statementthatheavymakeupmakestome.
Yourhusbandprobablysayswhathedoesbecausehelovesyouforyouanddoesn'tcarewhatyoulooklikebecausehe's
goingtoseeyouwiththesamerosylenseitherway.FromwhatI'vegathered:thisishowmostguysare.Spendingtimewith
peoplewetrustisahigherprioritythanspendingtimewiththegreatestobjectofphysicalbeautywecanfind.
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[] mrRabblerouser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkfoundationcompaniesdothisintentionally.Ithinkwhattheytrytodoisconvincewomenit'sgoodfortheirskin
andthattheylookuglywithoutit.WhichIwouldsaythefirstoneisdefinitelyfalse,andIpersonallybelievethesecondisalso.
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MyhusbanddisagreesandsayshecanhardlytellifIhavemakeuponornot.So...byhisassessmentitmakesno
differenceifIsmearona$50foundationeverydaybecauseitlooksaboutthesame.
YES!Unlessyou'reputtingmakeuponyourassortwinstomakethemlookbigger,wedo.not.care.Butlet'sthebehonest,
weallknowyouladiesputonmakeupforotherwomenanyway.It'snottolookgoodforus,it'ssoyoucanlookbetterthan
thatbitchKarenattheoffice.
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[] Serps450 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Psychopathhere.Willdateyouforyourskin.
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Noticemesenpai
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[] Blue_sweater_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IusemakeupwiththeacnemedicationinitandIcanhonestlysayIdonotbreakoutifIforgettowashmyfaceforadayor
fallasleepwithiton.BeforeIusedthismakeupifIfellasleepwithmyfaceonIwouldbreakouthorribly
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[] muuus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myexlookedmuchbetterwithoutmakeuporwithminimalamount(eyesprettymuch)yetshegotoffendedeverytimeItold
herthat.
Ihatemakeup.
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[] chaoskitten92 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OneofthebestthingsmymothereverdidformewasforbidmefromwearingmakeupuntilIwas16.Tothisday,Idon'twear
it.Evenoutondates,thisismyface.Ifyoudon'tlikeit,that'sok,Iusuallydon'tlikeyourseither.
Itbecomeshabit,likewearingabraorpants.Culturesallovertheworldignorebothofthose,butoursdoesn't.Soifwegoout
withoutabraorpants,wefeelweirdandexposed.It'saconditionedresponse.
Idon'tknowifyou'relookingtobreakthehabitornot,butIrecentlyhelpedmysisterdoso.Gooutwithoutmakeuponcea
week.Gosomewhereyouwon'tseeanyoneyouknowifithelps.Hell,forthefirstmonthPamwentoutforadriveanddidn't
leavehercar.Progressfromthereatyourleisure.Twiceaweek,functionswithpeopleyouknow,friendshouses,anything
thatputsyouslightlyoutofyourcomfortzoneuntilitbecomesyourcomfortzone.
Orkeepwearingyourmakeup.Whatevermakesyouhappy,Ijusthatehowsomepeoplefeelthattheyhavetoortheyfeel
ugly.You'renotugly.You'rejustusedtomakeup.
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[] lechocco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imuchpreferwomenwithoutinlike95%ofcases.
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Minewillsaythesame,andIbelievehegenuinelymeansit.Thethingis,Ifeelmoreattractivewithmakeup,andalotofus
do.That'swheretheconditioningcomesin.Noneifusliketoadmitwefallforthecrapsocietythrowsatus,butwedo...tothe
pointwefeelnakedgoingtoHomeDepotwithoutjustalittlemascara!
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[] boomerzoomer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igaveupallmakeupyearsago.Noregrets.Stillhaveasolidlongtermrelationshipanddowellsocially.
FREEDOOOOOOOOM.
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Ithoughtitwasprettywellknownthatmanyfoundationsblockporeslikeamotherfuckerbecausetheyaremadeofsuchfine
powder.
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[] Diarrhea_Van_Frank undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'redoingitforotherwomen.AndI'dbetyourhusbandnotices,butdoesn'twanttoargueaboutit.
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Youcouldtryusingagoodmoisturizercoveredwithalittlepressedpowdertoweanoffit.
Iquitwearingfoundationlike20yearsagoanddon'tmissthatgloppyshit.
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[] redbluegreenyellow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youwerewearingthewrongproducts.IcanneverfeelIhaveanyon.
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Wellitwastwentyyearsago...Maybethey'vemadegreatstridesinmakeuptechnology.
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[] meagan8x7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MasterCosmetologist/MakeupDirectorhere.Yes,lowqualityfoundationscandramaticallyaffecttheskin.BUTHighquality
productsthatinvolveyearsofresearchareverymuchsoworthit,andcanpreventmanyissues.Iretailasiliconebased,peta
approvedlineatmysalon.(Siliconemoleculesaretoobigtosinkintopores,thereforepreventingacne,anditfloatsontopof
theskinsoitdoesn'tsinkinfinelinesorwrinkles.)Makesurewhateveryou'reusingisnoncomodogenic.Icouldtalkabout
thisallday,haha.
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[] Tarastar441 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mdefinitelyinterestedinhearingmoreaboutthis!Dotheyusecheaperqualityproductsindrugstoremakeup?
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[] ballpeeeeeen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwearittofeelbetteraboutmyselfbecauseeventhoughnooneelsecanreallytell,Ican.AndIhatetherednessandthezits
andeverythingelse.
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[] thiscnidocyte undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inthesametrainofthought,IfeellikeIhavetwofaces.Oneisbarefaced,sparseeyebrows,nubbylittlestraighteyelashes.
ThenIhavethewholelikefierceandperfectwingedeyelinerwithcutcreaseshadowandevenskintone.Theyareboth100%
me,butoneseemsmoreintroverted,"pleasedon'ttalktomeasIreadthelabelofthisfoodproduct."Theotherisextroverted,
lively,projectingconfidence(eventhoughIfeelconfidenteitherway).Bothdon'tgiveafuck.
Iliketheroutineofmakeup.Itfeelssoothing.AndpeopletreatmedifferentlywhenIwearit,evenifIremainthesameperson.
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plus,ifyouwatchAHSthenyouknowtherearesomepsychoswhokillwomenforthepurposeofskinningthemandmaking
furnitureoutoftheskin,soonitsprobablybeneficialtohavebadskin,youknowsinceyou'vealreadylockeddownahusband
andall.
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Ifyou'veseenSilenceoftheLambs,you'llalsoknowtherearepsychoswhoskinwomenandwearthemfortheirskin.
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Areyouyoung?Doyouhaveniceskin?Ifso,Icantellyouthatinabouttwentyyears,you'lllookbackandbecompletely
baffledthatyouspentsomuchmoney,time,andeffortcoveringupyourlovelyskininsteadoflettingyouractualbeautyshow
through.
Iusedtowearsomuchmakeup.NowIcan'tevenbegintocomprehendwhy.
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[] lustywench99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'malmost35.I'vespentplentyofyearswithnothingon.NowIfeellikeit'simportantforwork.
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[] revnhoj undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoatworkcares?
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IfeelmorebeautifulwithoutmakeupandIwishmoregirlscouldtoo
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[] bryantgoalie 4points
Ihavethistalkwithmygirlfriendeverytimewearegoingsomewhere,especiallyifherfamilywillbethere.Idon'tlikeitwhen
shewearsfoundation.Sheneverwearsanythingelsebesideseyelinerandmascara,whichaddmitedlyilike,butigetkinda
sadwhenshedoesputonfoundation.Shehasthemostbeautifuloliveskinwiththeymostamazing,adorable,cutefreckles
thatgetcoveredup.Shedoesn'tbelieveforonesecondthatsheisbeautifulanddoesn'tneedtousethatstuff.
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Ihavethistalkwithmygirlfriendeverytimewearegoingsomewhere,especiallyifherfamilywillbethere.Idon'tlike
itwhenshewearsfoundation.
Justasuggestion,butyou'veobviouslybroughtthisupmultipletimestoherandshehasn'tstoppeddoingit,but
maybesheenjoyswearingit?Noteveryonewhowearsfoundationisdoingitbecausetheydon'tliketheirskin.
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[] WinkiiTinkii undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isupposethismightbeunderstandable.Ifindthatverylittlemakeupisattractive,withnofoundation.It'shardto
tellwhatotherpeople'sgeneralopinionsareonthis.
Anyways.Ifherideaisthatshelooksbetterwith,butBFrepeatedlyemphasizesthathelikesbetterw/o...Idunno.
Ilikenaturalskin.
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[] bryantgoalie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shehasexpresslytoldmethatshedoesn'tthinkshelooksgood
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[] sighinthesky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OhgodthefeelingoftryingtoconvinceyourSOthattheyarebeautiful.Itissogoddamnfrustrating.I'vekindagivenup
arguingwithheraboutit.
"you'rereallypretty"
"I'mgladyouthinkthat"
just...sighhhhh
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[] bryantgoalie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orthealwayspopular,You:"babe,you'resobeautiful"Her:"noI'mnotilookdisgusting"You:"no,reallyyoulook
amazingtoday"Her:"you'rejustsayingthatbecauseyouhaveto"Omgitssofrustrating
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[] FearsomeMonark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andthenwhenyou'reinevitablyfedupwiththerefusalofcomplimentsyoustopgivingandthenshegets
pissedabouthowyounevercomplimenther.
I'mnotbitter.
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[] ImPuntastic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ManIwasinabadtimeinmylifeandalwaysshutdownallthecomplimentsmySOgaveme,nowhe
doesn'tgivemeanycompliments.NowthatI'mbetterandknowIlookgood,henevercompliments
meanditmakesmesad.
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[] I_eat_satans_ass 1428points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyhusbanddisagreesandsayshecanhardlytellifIhavemakeuponornot.So...byhisassessmentitmakesno
differenceifIsmearona$50foundationeverydaybecauseitlooksaboutthesame.
Guyhere.Wedon'tdateyouforyourskin.If,forwhateverweirdreasonitsmentionedthatwelikeyourskin,itsbecausewe
likeyou,thereforewelikeyourskinasaresultoflikingyou.
Butatthesametime,IDGAFifyouwomenwanttowearmakeup.Butdon'tactlikeyou'reuglywithoutit,andfortheloveof
godifwe'regoingtoHomeDepotdon'tspend3hoursdoingmakeupbeforewego.
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[] ticklemybuns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
holyshityourusernamehasmelaughinghard
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[] Pastvariant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhileIgenerallyagreewithyouonthisone,Iwillsaythatbadskinstillgetsnoticed,soifitissomethingyoucanwork
onfromahealthperspective,pleasetryanddoso.
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[] hollyyo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LOLatguyswhodon'trealizemostofthewomentheyseearewearingmakeup/howdifferenttheylookwithoutit.
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Idon'tknowanyguysthatdatewomen"fortheirskin",butIknowofwomenwith"badskin"thatguyswon'tdate.
Somewomenareuglywithoutit.Someareplainwithoutit.Somelookgoodwithoutbutbetterwith,andsomelookgreat
without.
IfeellikeyourentirePOVisbasedaround1womanyousawonce,likeyouwereletoutofaroomtotakeapeakatone
woman,andthenputbackinyourhole.lol
Someguyslikewhentheirspouseorgirlfriendtakestimetolookgoodbeforetheygoout.
Ohyeah,Iforgot."Guyhere".
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[] savvyxxl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Abetterexplanationofthis:whenwearecourtingsomeoneweareusuallymoreshallowbecausethat'swhatgetsour
interestatfirst,ohshe'scuteIwanttogettoknowher,andonceyougettoknowthemandthenyoudevelopgenuine
feelingsthesuperficialshallowstuffjustfades.Youcarelessandlessaboutthephysicallooksbecauseyou'vebythen
fallenfortheirpersonality....Anicefancystorefrontgetspeopleinthedoorbuttheykeepcomingforthequalityproduct
inside
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[] StarEchoes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salmostlikewomenhavemotivationsthatdon'trevolvearoundmen!
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[] InteriorEmotion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tdateagirlforherskin,butclearskinismuchmoreattractivethanacne.
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[] arayabe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeygirlsYoudon'tneedmakeupYouallarebeautifulTome
Orsomethinglikethat.Hipstermemefrom2000andlate
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[] candiicane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Readthroughthethread,seemspeoplearehavingtroubleunderstandingyourprettysimplecomment.Myhusbandis
likeyou.HeunderstandsthatI'mgointowearmakeupforanevent,butotherwisecouldreallycarelessaboutit.He
complimentsmemore(evenifhedoesn'trealiseit)wheni'mmostlynaturalthanwhenIactuallyputmakeupon.Ispend
timeonproperskincare,whywouldIwanttocoveritonadailybasis?PlusthenwhenIdoputintheeffortIlookthat
muchbetter.:)
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[] IHaveAllTheSass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mjustsaying,inthevideoyouposted,theywereactuallytalkingaboutthefactthattheythoughttheywereactually
attractive,notthattheyhaveniceskin...
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[] fitnessguy1111 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wow.
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[] Franco_DeMayo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsoaguyhereandthefunnythingaboutit(tomeanyway)isthatfoundationisthefirstoneI'mgonnanoticeasfaras
makeupisconcerned.Youcansneaktherestofthatshitpastmeanyday,butItendtonoticewhenyourfacelookslike
latex.Shitmakesmesympathizewithyourskin,ladiesI'llbehavingtroublebreathingandshit,too.
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Itrytoexplaintowomanallthetimetheydon'thaveto"painttheirface"forourattention.50%ofthetimeitturnsout
worse
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Idunnodude,I'dhesitatetodateachickwithoutanyskinatall.
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[] ben70 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wedon'tdateyouforyourskin
AndifyoudorunintoaguywhoisdatingyouforyourskinRUN!
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I'veneverbeenhugeintomakeuptobeginwith(I'malwaysrunninglateasitis,andamgenerallytoolazytoevenblow
drymyhair),butoneofthebest(oratleastmyfavorite)piecesofadvicefromaguyfriendwastoneverwearsomuch
makeupthataguydoesn'trecognizeyouafteryou'vewashedyourface.
(Thiswaswaybackwhenwewereincollege.Healsotoldmenottolookupataguywhilegivingthemheadbecause
it'sawkwardlooking&notflattering(neveroccurredtometoquestionthatone).Also,nottofuckfreshmenbecause
theyleavetheirsockson,whichturnedouttobetrue,butstillworthit.)
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[] I_eat_satans_ass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Healsotoldmenottolookupataguywhilegivingthemheadbecauseit'sawkwardlooking&notflattering
I'venevermindedeyecontact.Imean,ifshe'swillingtoputmydickinhermouththat'sreallyflattering.
Also,nottofuckfreshmenbecausetheyleavetheirsockson,whichturnedouttobetrue,butstillworthit.
I'massumingyoursamplesizeforthisisallthefreshmen,whichIwouldliketoextendaheartygoodworktoyou.
Thatisquitetheachievement.
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LMAOatbothyourreplies.
Regardingfreshman/socks:Iwasslutty,butnotthatslutty.Ialsowasacommunicationsmajor,sologic
wasn't(andapparentlystillisn't)mystrongsuit.
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[] arlenroy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Otherguyherealongthoselineswereallydon'tcaremuchaboutwhatbrandheelsyouwear.Howeverwedocareif
youdevelophammertoesorenormousbunionsfromwearingsaidheels.It'snotevenafetish,mostmenjustprefer
womentohavenicefeet!IwastalkingtothisincrediblybeautifulgirlIhadmet,Iwas24andshewas29.Youknowhow
whenyouinviteagirloverforthefirsttimeandshemakesherselfcomfortable?Yeahyou'rehappybecauseyoucantell
shereallydigsyou,thenoffcomestheVans/Toms/Chucksorwhatevercasualshoeshewears,she'sallflirtyandputs
herlegsonyours.ToyourdisappointmentyouseeshehashobbitfeetmixedwithaSasquatchbecauseofherhigh
heeladdiction.Icoulddealwithitifmywifehadthatissue,butthispoorgirlstoesweremangledandcrossedeach
other.Iwishwomenwouldunderstandthis,Ireallydo.
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Yea,butthethingaboutheels,whichIusedtoreallyloatheaboutthem,istheyallowyoutoshowcaseyour
manlinessabitmore.Allowmetoexplain.
Firstoff,theydoaccentuatetheass.Idon'tfullyseehowintermsofhowwomenexplainit,becauseiftheyhave
anassworthlookingatinheelsI'mgonnabestaringifthey'rewearingflats.Butitraisestheassupmoretoyour
eyelevelwhichisgoodforpreventingneckinjuries.
Secondoff,theycausefootpain.Again,I'vehearditsonlycheaponesthatdothis,butwhatever.I'venevergone
outwithagirlthatworeheelswhodidn'tcomplainaboutthepain.Which,again,isaok,itleadsmetopoint3:
Thefireman'scarry.Yourwomaniscomplainingaboutherheelshurtingherfeet?That'sthesignal.Standnextto
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her,butfacingintheoppositedirection.Grabthearmclosesttoyou,andputitoveryourshouders.Crouch,pull
herover,andnowyou'vegotheronyourshoulders/back.Perfect.Now,doneproperly,youcanholdthewristand
thelowerleginyournondominanthand.Thisleavesyourdominanthandfreetoholdyourbeer,orgopee,or
whatevershityougottado.Hopefullyshesdrunkenoughatthispointthatshepassesout,andyoucancontinue
doingwhatever,andatsomepointheadinghome.Again,yourdominanthandisfree,butthistimetocarryyour
gyro/kebab/whatever.
Finally,thisiswhyyoucan'tdatefatchicks.Thatshitwillthrowyoubackout.
Oh,andifyoudothis,andherdressisshortenough,orwhateverhappensthatcauseshertoshowherpantiesto
everyone?Justignoreit.Itsfine.Don'tlethereverfindoutthoughbecausesheWILLbesuperpissedatyoufor
thateventhoughyouworkedyourassofftocarryherlimpbodyaroundallnight.
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[] immortal_joe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idisagree,youdon'ttypicallynoticeskinspecificallybutyoudefinitelydointermsofwhoisattractiveandwhoisn't.That
beingsaid,it'smoreofasubconsciousthingandoursubconsciousisalsoreally,reallygoodatdetectingfakeshit,so
makeupisn'treallygoingtohelp.
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[] Anonymous_Bosch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotexactlytrue,m8.
Ibrokeupwithanotherwiseveryattractivepreviousgirlfriendbecauseofaslightacneissue.Itjustturnedmeoffaftera
fewdates.Bycontrast,thewomanImarriedhasskinlikeporcelainandI'dbelyingifIsaiditwasn'tafactorinmyinitial
pursuit.
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Ibrokeupwithanotherwiseveryattractivepreviousgirlfriendbecauseofaslightacneissue
Lemmegetthisstraight.Youdumpedagirlbecauseshehadaslightacneissue.Aslightacneissue.
Son,I'vegotnewsforyou.She'sgonnagetold.Hertitsaren'tgonnalookasnicethen.Shesgonnagainsome
weight.She'sgonnaturnintoanoldwrinklygrandma,justlikeyou'returnintoanoldwrinklygrandpa.
Areyouplanningoncaringaboutthembeyondappearance,orisitgonnabelikeHughHefner2.0here?
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[] Cajova_Houba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
welikeyourskinasaresultoflikingyou
Thisistruenotonlyforskinanditlookslikealotofwomenstilldon'tgetit.
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[] youvegotredonyou2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HonestlyI'vedatedpeoplewhotryandpeoplewhodon't..althoughIwasoriginallyundertheimpressionthatitmadeno
difference..onamonthlybasisitwearsonyouthatyouhaven'tseenthemglowormakeaneffortorseenthemfeeling
attractiveinmonths.Writingonmyphone,sorrynogrammar.
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Myexusedtotake1hourtoputonhermakeup.One.Fucking.Hour.
Everyday.
Drovemenuts.
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[] CactiChill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wedon'tdatespecificallyforskin,butitplaysahugeroleandyoucan'tdenythat.Someonewithagood/healthyskin
willlookwaymoreattractive.Period.Toputitbluntly:a7/10withgoodskinlooksbetterthena9/10withbadskin.
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Icouldn'tstandtobewithsomeonewhoisbarelyrecognizabletomewhentheytaketheirmakeupoff.
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[] Catchfortytwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hahaandyettherearestillthetimeswhenyougetashockseeingawomenwiouthermakeupbecausethereisa
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lot,ofillusioncreated.
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[] hadapurpura undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Assomeonewhogoeswithoutmakeupmostofthetime,makeupisalsopartoflookingprofessionalformanyofus.I
needtoputonatleastmybbcream,lipglossandmascaratolookpresentableforworksituations.Justlikemany
womenwhoundergocosmeticproceduresdoittobecompetitiveatwork(andanecdotally,I'veseenmendothesame).
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[] DegenerateWizard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theoneandonlytime"IDGAF"haseverbeenusedthatdidn'tmakemethinkdudewasadouche.
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[] redeadhead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow.AguywhoonlyknowsbeautifulwomenandgoestoHomeDepot.
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Thisislikepickingupwomen101.EveryoneknowstheuglychicksgotoLowes.Justlikethesexywomengoto
farmersmarketsinsteadofthegrocerystore.
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[] ThePandarantula undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisonlysemitrue.Ifagirlhasallgross,pickmarkedorbrokenoutskin,guyswillavoidher.Thisgoesalongwith
anystatementof,"I'mnotjustafterphysicalbeauty."It'sallasham,asironyofthe"niceguy"isthatthey'regenerally
notswooningoversomeonetheyfindphysicallyunattractive.
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[] Miqote undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butdon'tactlikeyou'reuglywithoutit,andfortheloveofgodifwe'regoingtoHomeDepotdon'tspend3hours
doingmakeupbeforewego.
Okay,butthereasonalotofwomenwearmakeupisbecausetheyfeeluglywithoutit,ortheyareembarrassed,and
that'swhytheywanttodotheirmakeupbeforetheyleavethehouse.
IrefusetoleavethehousewithoutmymakeuponbecauseIhavereallyawfulredspotsallovermyfacefromyearsof
dermatillomaniaandcompulsiveskinpicking.Asadirectresult,IfeelincrediblyashamedifIamseeninpublicwithout
atleastbasicfoundationonsoIcanlook"normal".Andwhilethat'samore"severe"exampleforyou,mypointisalot
ofwomenaresuperselfconsciousabouttheirappearance,andoursocietyreallystronglyreinforcesthis.
SoIgetit'sfrustratingtohavetowaitaroundforsomeonetodotheirmakeup,butimaginethattriptoHomeDepotand
allyoucandoisthinkabouthoweveryoneissecretlystaringatyouandjudgingyouormakingfunofyourskinorhow
uglytheythinkyouare.
Isthathappeningallthetime?No.Doesitmatter?No.It'sanxietyforareason.
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[] latelikethepolice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Huh?UsuallyoneofthefirstthingsItellwomenisthatIliketheirskin.Imean,atleastgivethebitchacompliment
beforeyouflayandwearit.Itdidn'talwaysbelongtoyou,youknow.
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[] DOOR_IS_STUCK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
howisthissoupvoted?isthethewhiteknightsoftheinternetvotebrigading?
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What,becauseIcan'ttellthedifferencebetweenalotofmakeupwomenwearI'mnowawhiteknight?Thereisa
lotmoretoawomanthanthemakeupshewears.Fine,somepeopleitsanotabledifference.Butforanaverage
woman,thataveragelightamountofmakeupshedoeseveryday?Ican'tfuckingtell.Ireallycan't.Some,sure.
Butformany?Looksthesametome.
KindalikewhenI'mdoingwoodworking,andIshowagirlwhatI'mworkingonandpointsomethingoutandshe's
all"hmm,Ican'ttell"Orifyoushowedagirltheintricatedifferencesbetweenfallout3andfallout4,chancesarea
lotwouldbe"Ican'ttell"aboutit.
I'mnotsayingtheycan'twearit,I'mnotsayingthatIhatethemforwearingit,butIdon'tlikethosewhowon't
recognisethatthereisatimeandplaceforitanditisn'tahomedepottrip.
IfItakehertodinner,we'rebothgonnagetdressedup(ordoesithavetobeaseafooddinner?Arewhiteknights
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allowedtotakegirlstosteakdinners,ordowehavetoprotecttheirfemininitytooandtakethemtoeatseafoodso
theycanbealldaintyandshit).Iprobablycouldn'tnamehalfofthemakeupshehason.Knowwhat?I'mstill
gonnatellhershelooksnice,becauseoddsare,SHELOOKSFUCKINGNICE.Idon'tgiveashitwhatmakeup
shehason,I'mnotgonnahaveaconversationwithheraboutherfoundationblendingtechniques,butI'llpayher
agoddammedcomplimentaboutherappearance,sincesheobviouslyputsomefuckingworkintolookingnice,
eventhoughIcan'ttellwhatthatworkwas.I'mnotgonnasay"you'reeyeshadowlooksnice,yourblushlooks
nice,you'reskinlooksnice,yourlipslooksoniceandtantalizing,thewayyouputthatmascaraonreallygetsme
going"I'mgoingtosay"youlookverynicetonight"andsmile.
SorryI'mfuckingblindtomakeup.I'llgladlyrespectawoman'sdesiretowearittoadate,ortodinner,or
whateverevent.Butyoudon'tneedfuckingmascaraandeyelinerandallthatjazzifwe'restoppingtopickup
someburgersandahalfdozen2x4s.
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[] Rupur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Couldyoustopspeakingas"we"?
Noonedatesawomenonlyforherskinbutitspartofthewholepackage.Awomenwithbadskinconditionwillprobably
havesomeotherproblemstoo.
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[] gperlman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihaveneverdatedwomenthatregularlyworemakeup.It'stheideathattheydon'treallylookthewayI'mseeingthem
andthatwhenthemakeupcomesoff,theywilllookbland.Mywife,forexample,almostneverwearsanymakeupatall.
Ifwearegoingtoaweddingordinnerpartyshemightwearalittlebitthat'saboutit.
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Exactly.Mostmendon'tgiveafuckwhetheryouwearmakeupornot.
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Unlessshe'swearingtoomuch,inwhichcasegowashyourfaceplease.
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[] nsentrepreneur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BuffaloBillcaresabouttheirskin...
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[] Quixotic_Fool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tbh,womenlookalotbetterwithmakeupon.Theonesyoudon'tlikearewearingtoomuchofit.Butifdoneright,it's
hardlynoticeable,butmakesthewomanmuchmoreattractive.
Also,niceskinisoneofthethingsthatmakesaperson'sphysicalappearancemuchmoreattractive.
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[] oxxluvr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreeonthiscausewithoutmakeupnobodyseesmeorwatchesmepassby.ButwhenI'mfullblownmakeup
andhairready,Igetalittlebitofattention.Oneguyflirtedwithmewithmakeuponandthenextday,sameguy
didn'tlookinmydirection...andI'maregularatthatStarbuckslol
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[] candiicane undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mypersonalexperience,itdoesn'tmatterifIhavemakeuponandhairdone,orifi'mnaturalwithmyhairin
aponytail,guyswillhitonme.Someguysreallydon'tcareaboutmakeup.Myhusbandprefersme
completelynatural,alwayshasevenwhenhefirstmetme,althoughhecanprymymascarafrommycold
deadhands.
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Yep,whenguyssaythattheydon'tlikemakeupongirls,whattheyreallymeanisexcessivemakeup.
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[] james_bonged undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ortheydefinitelymeantheydon'tlikemakeup.whoknows,maybetherearemorethanbinary
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Inmyexperience,thevastmajorityofguyswhohavesaidthiscan'tidentifywhengirlsare
wearingverylightmakeup.
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[] dorothy_zbornak_esq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Suchalovelysentimentfrom/u/i_eat_satans_ass
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[] Kraymur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isawsomethingsimilartothisinanotherthread,ifyou'recute,itdoesn'tmatterwhatyou'rewearing,sweatpantsand
hairupandeverything,thegirlscute,theclothesarecutetoo.
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[] TransgenderPride undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fortheloveofgodifwe'regoingtoHomeDepotdon'tspend3hoursdoingmakeupbeforewego.
Iintentionallytakeforevertogetreadyjusttopisspeopleoff.
I'mabitch,Iknow.
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Ionetimewenttohomedepottopickupanother6gallonpailofmud.BeingthatIhadbeenhangingand
muddingdrywallallday,Iwasdisgustinglysweatyandcoveredinmudanddirtandgrime.SomuchsothatIputa
toweldowninthetruckbeforeiwenttokeepitclean.Myappearancewasn'treallyoutoftheordinaryforthe
buildingmaterialssection.Butdeargod,everyyuppie"OHMIGODwecouldsavemoneyifwedidDIY,wecan
DIY,WE'REDIYersEVERYONE"kindapersontherewasjudgingmesohardfornotbeingcleaninhomedepot,
likesorryIhavebeendoinganhonestdayswork,Ididn'ttrytolooklikethis.
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[] heyleese undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhadadefiningmomentwhenIstoppedwearingmakeup.IwasaJrinhighschoolandeverymorningIstraightenedmy
hairanddidmakeupanditwasa~1.5hrprocess.Wenttoschoolwithblueeyelinerandshowedmybf.Hecouldn't
figureoutwhatIhaddonedifferently.Igaveupthenextdayandstartedgoingcurlyandmakeupfree.Iwearitnow
andthenbutIhavehoursofmylifeback!Icanbeshoweredandoutthedoorin10mins.
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Nottryingtobedismissive,butexperiencesinJunioryearhighschoolmightnotbethebesttobasethewhole
restofyourlifeon.
IfIactedinresponsetowomentodaybasedonmyexperienceswiththemwhenIwasaJrinhighschool.....I
don'tthinkthatwouldbegoodforanyone.
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TrueandIgetthat.IrealizedIlikedbeinglowmaintenancemuchbetterthandoingmyhairandmakeup
everyday.Itdoesn'tmeanIdon'tlikelookinggood.BenefitofcurlyhairisIwashit,putproductin,mussit
upabitandI'mgtg.SomedaysIputeyemakeupon.Nottobecornybutitwasmoreaboutembracing
whatIhavethentryingtochangeitandwhowasIreallydoingitfor?Notmyself.
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NottobecornybutitwasmoreaboutembracingwhatIhavethentryingtochangeitandwhowas
Ireallydoingitfor?Notmyself.
Youshoulddowhatevermakesyouhappy,butI'veneverhadaproblemwiththeideaofdoingthings
forotherpeople,ortomakeotherpeoplefindmemorepleasant/attractive/etc.
Butthat'sjustme....andthewomenI'vebeenwithaswellIguess.
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IfeellikeyouhavemisinterpretedwhenIsayIdon'twearmakeupasIsomehowdon'tcare
whatIlooklike.Iliketolookniceanddressnice.Ihavegood,olivetoneskinsohavenever
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meunderagallonofmakeup.DuringtheweekI'llputeffort(ok20mins)onhowIlookandon
nightslikeSO'sholidaypartyIwentalloutandspent2hrsgettingready.
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Iremembergettingupsuperearlyforhairandmakeupinhighschool.Ohlord.
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[] bvdizzle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iamalsoamanandpreferwomentonotwearmakeup.I100%ofthetimethinktheyareprettierwithoutmakeup.But
thatsnottosayIdontthinktheylookprettywithit,becausetheyalwaysdo
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[] nootas undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisislikegirlsthinkingtheypcenotattractedtoassholes.
Skinmakesahugedifferencetohowattractiveyouthinkagirlis.Youjustneverrealisedit.Plentyofstudiesputgood
qualityskinrightatthetopofthelistthataffectsguysattraction.
Whatdoyouthinkitmeanswhen,allthingsbeingequalyoufinda20yearoldmoreattractivethana29yearold?
Womenaren'twalkingaroundwithsignsabovetheirflashingtheirageinbrightlights.You'relookingforindirect
indicatorsofageandhealthandskinisthenumberonetelltaleforthat.
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[] langlo94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahgoodskincareisveryimportant.
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[] sittingonmybed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthere'sadifferencebetweenthisandthat,/r/I_eat_satans_asswasprobablytalkingaboutskinintermsof
likeacneoraroughcomplexion,wrinklesaretotallydifferentandactuallydomakeadifferencebutalotofpeople
couldn'tcarelessabouttheformer.
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[] james_bonged undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whosaysthatallthingsbeingequal,peoplepreferthe20yearold?
whatifyouhaveafetishforunusualskin?whatifsomeonehasanattractiontovitiligooralbinism?whatif
someoneisattractedtoolderwomeninanoedipalcomplexstyle?
Ifeelthestrongersocialpullforwomentowearmakeupisthatthey"feelmoreconfident"whereasinrealityitis
largelydonetoavoidpersecutionfromotherfemaleswhoholdtheirappearanceinfarhigheresteemthanis
healthy,andfeelthatyoushouldexperiencethesameselfconsciousness.
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[] PM_ur_Rump undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Well,likehesaid,girlsoftenlikeassholes.Assholesbaseattractionpurelyonthingslikehow"youngand
perfect"agirllooks.Sotheyhavetolookyoungandperfecttogetsaidassholes.
Thisthenextendstomanygirlsthatdon'tlikeassholesbecausetheystillcompetesociallywithother
womenandareoftenjudgedontheirlooksbythemasmuchasguys.Andmanyjustjudgethemselves,and
likehowtheylookwithmakeupon,andit'snotuptomeoranyoneelsetotellthemotherwise.
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Holdon,didyoureadaboutthose"studies"inCosmopolitan?Conspiracyconfirmed!
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[] ZapBrannigains undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wedon'tdateyouforyourskin.
Speakforyourself.
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Iforonefindthemosteroticpartofthewomantobetheboobies.
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[] 6dankmemes9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OkayEdGeins
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[] ZapBrannigains undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No,it's/u/ZapBrannigains.
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Okay,EdGein.
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[] oxencotten 56points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellImeanwedon'tdategirlsfortheirskinbutsomepeoplehaveshittyuglyskinanddefinitelyneedmakeup.Skinis
prettymuchthesameasanyotherpartofsomebodiesappearance.Youjustdon'treallythinkaboutit/noticeitifit'snice
buthavingbadskinisdefinitelyunattractive.
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WellImeanwedon'tdategirlsfortheirskinbutsomepeoplehaveshittyuglyskinanddefinitelyneed
makeup/facialcareproducts.
Idisagreelike90%ofthetimeandIwillstandbehindmystatementassuch.Ifagirlhasreallybadskin,yesshe
doesneedtotakecareofit.But90%ofthetimethatisn'tthereasonshesnotattractive.Itssomethingelse.
Somethingelsethat'salsoleadinghertohavethebadskin.
IhaveseengirlswithTONSofacnescaringandIthinkitlookedreallycuteonthem.IcanhonestlysayIhave
neverseenagirlandthough"well,I'dthinkshewascute,butherskinwasbad"Acutegirlcanrocktheacne
scarsandI'lllikeit.AnotcutegirlcouldlookairbrushedandIwon'tbetheleastbitattracted.
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Oh,soit's100%bonestructurethenhuh?
Therewasathreadacoupleweeksagoofthisbeautyqueenburnvictim.Shehad"goodbonestructure"
butlookedHORRIBLE.
Stilltherehadtobesomeguywhowaslike"Shelooksbeautiful.Shehasamazingbonestructureandso
shewillalwaysbebeautiful".
Wasthatyou?Didn'ttrollthewomenforkarmaenoughthen?Needsomemorenow?
lol
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No,that'snotme.That'sabsolutelyhorriblewhatshewentthrough,butshesobviouslyaminorityon
thatandgoesagainstmypoint.Yaknow,thatwhole90%thingImentioned.
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[] TongariDan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justgoogledbadskinandtheonlyonesthatactuallylookeduglyweretheoneswhereitactually
lookedpainful,diseased,orburned.Themajoritystilllookedcute.Justmyopinion.
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So,wait....
AreyounowsayingthatNOwomenareuglyexceptwomenwith"diseasesandburns".
Imean,yougoogled"badskin"andgotaselectionofrandomwomen'sfaces.
LogicallyIwouldpresumeatleastsomeofthemwouldbestatisticallyuglyevenwithoutthebad
skin.
Sheesh.You'rereallygoingalloutherewithyourwhiteknightroutine.
Ithinkwearedeepenoughintothecommentsnowthatthereisnorealkarmatobegainedwith
yournonsense.Youcanprobablytakeoffthecape.lol
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[] shinypurplerocks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buthowareyoudefining"cute"?Yousureskindoesn'tplayapartinthat?
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[] ksiyoto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Cuteismostlystature,eyes,senseofhumorandsmile.
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Here(thankyougoogleimagesformakingmylifeeasy).Ithinksheiscute.Ithinktheyacnescarring
looksjustfineonher.Whatwouldn'tIthinkisattractive?IlookatthehairstylealotmorethanIdothe
skin.Aswellastheeyebrows.Theacnescarringlooksjustfine,aslongasyou'reworkingintoyour
style.Ifyouwanttodresslikeyou'regoingtotheemmysasasupermodel,thenyea,maybeitcould
beanissue.ButforhowmanygirlsliketodressIhonestlythinkitlooksfine.ItsnotsomethingthatI
notice.
Iwill,however,notlinktopicsofgirlsIthinkaren'tcutebecausethat'sjustmean.ButIthinkpeople
ontheinternethaveagoodideaofwhatthatmightbe.RosieO'Donnellwillneverbeattractive,no
matterhowniceherskinis.
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That'snotbadskin,shehaswonderfulskin,shejusthasacnescars.Istilldon'tthinkyou'dfind
agirlwithbadskincute.
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Thissoundslikeaspeechmydadmadeaboutmewearingmakeuphunting.IhadtoexplainallIputonwas
sunscreen.
Hethenproceededtochangehiscamopantstwiceandhadmechoosebetweenwhichorangevestheshouldwear
beforewecouldleave.
Hewasmyonlyparentinhighschool...Ihopehedoesn'twonderhowIbecamesuchadivatoinsistonsunscreen
beforehunting.Ihadtolaugh.
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camopantsandorangevest,canhesettleonwhetherhewantstheanimalstonoticehim?
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Areyouamaleorfemale?
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[] Bajawah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HAHAHAHA.Loveit.Whatvestdear?Thisorange,orthisotherorange?
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[] Faiakishi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yourdadsoundshilarious.
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[] Inteli_Gent undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WearSunscreen.
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[] pbblp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Loveit.Didhealsomakefunofyouforcarryingapurse&thenaskyoutocarrystuffforhim?
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HedidlaughthatIcarriedabackpackforfoodandtoiletpaperandwater.
Thisyearhehadonetwiceasbig.So...
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[] BenignEgoist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Canconfirm,skinconsciousdaughterofahuntingfamily.Hewouldgetthemostpainfulsunburnsonhisfaceand
noseandthencriticizesunscreen.
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[] BeatTheCl0ck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hethenproceededtochangehiscamopantstwice
OkayIhadtorereadyourcommentmultipletimesbecauseIkeptreadingthiswrong
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[] Panasoni undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Sunscreen!Doesitfuckinglooklikewe'regoingtothebeach?!Wipethatshitoffyourfaceandhelpmedecide
whichtieIshouldwear,Idon'twanttheanimalstothinkwe'reuncivilized."
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[] Machine120 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notieonearthwouldevermakeahuntercivilised.
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[] Golden_Phi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] minastirith1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohgodmyside,Ihavelostthem.
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[] laxpwns undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welliftheywerehuntingforprettymuchanythingotherthanfowl,thescentofthesunscreencouldbe
problematic.
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[] abbysucks undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
yeahbut,youknowwhatsmoreproblematicthananimalssmellingyoufromadistance?
skincancer.
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[] aLittleCreepy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Polarbears...Youareforgettingaboutpolarbears.
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[] Heathenforhire undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'llreflectoffyou'reforeheadandgiveourpositionawaytotheanimals.Here'ssomegreasepaint,itdoes
thesamething.
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Bhaha...prettymuch.HejustsawmedabbingandrubbingonmyfaceandIguessinterpretedthatasme
"puttingonmyface"at4a.m.However,IhavelearnedfromyearsofouralldayhuntingexperiencethatI
betterputonsunscreenandaqualitymoisturizerormyfacewillberedandrawfromsittingintheelements.
It'sworththestepthatearlyinthemorning.Realmakeupforthedeerisabitextreme,althoughI'veseen
plentyofwomenposingwiththeirdeerinafullface.Ialwayswonderiftheygohomeandcleanupbefore
thepictureordotheyjustgooutlookinglikethat...
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AllIcanthinkofisthis
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[] BigUptokes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyjustbringthis.
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[] Silly__Rabbit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
r/retiredgif
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[] headrush46n2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Womendon'twannabeshotinthefacehomer
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Thisisamazing.
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Youshouldhavegivenhimalectureaboutthedangersofskincancer.
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thatisasmartbusinessmodel
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[] guoit 6points
Getoutyourtinhatseveryone
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Heyguyslook!It'sthefunnymanwiththealwaysrefreshinglyfunnytinfoilhatjoke!Howdoeshedoit?!
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[] StabbyDMcStabberson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sthesneakiestconspiracyofall.Thefoilhatsactuallyamplifythemindcontrolrays.
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wut?
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Thequestionreallywarrantstheresponses.Obviously,anyonewhosubscribesto/r/conspiracywillbelievethattheseconspiraciesare
true.Andanyonethatbelievesinconspiraciesdoesn'tseehimselfasthatguyfromhistorychannel.
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[] BingoBangoBongo 7points
thatguyfromhistorychannel
Hitler?
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nah,theguywiththeancientaliens
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[] KOB4LT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WillSmith?
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[] CleansingFlame 27points
LikeIevertookitoff!
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Noteventocleanit?
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[] superflynurse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andwashawayitspowers?Never!
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[] GoofMaster 82points
JFKto911EverythingIsARichMan'sTrick
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Wow!AndYouTubewhichispresumablypartofthisconspiracyisstillleavingthisup!That'samazingyousnuckby!
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Theresalwaysthecounterargumentoftakingitdownonlycausessuspicion
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Ofthethreepeoplewhosawitbeforeitwastakendown?
Ifthey'redoingallthecrazyshitthey'resaidtobedoing,thenoffingafewYourubersandtakingdowntheirvideosshouldbe
easy.
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[] QCA_Tommy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisreallyisaMUSTWATCH.SomeZeitgeistshitrightthere.Alltrue?Noway.Sometruth...?
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[] big_face_killah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Brilliantfilm.
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[] Sieborg 21points
CansomeonegivemeaTLDR?
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[] Nosra420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihavn'twatchedthisparticularshowbuthistoryishistorysoillgivethisago.
Firstyouneedtounderstandmoneyisfake.Itismadeupmadeoutofthinair.
Everywareveryactionagovernmenthasmadeinthelast500yearshasbeencontrolledbybanks.Bankshaveplayedbothsides
ofhistorytheentiretime.Fundingcountriestofighteachotherwhileprofitingtheentiretime.
Inthelast500yearseverycountrythathastriedtoresisthavingacentralbankingsystemhasbeenoverthrownandhashadanew
governmentandbankingsystemputintoplace.RussiaandIranaretheonly2countriesleft.
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ThankyouforconfirmingwhatIalreadyknew.Thissomuch.
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[] nickert0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msohappypeoplearewakingup,youareproof.Thankyoupersonlikeme,keeponthegoodfight.
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[] scoobysnaxxx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
noddedalonguntilthe'blamethejews'bit.soRomaandotherpeoplewho'vebeenhistoricallyoppressedandweretargeted
bytheThirdReicharecontrollingthebanks,too?thosecaravansmustbefilledwithgold!/s
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YoushouldreadJewishasZionist
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[] nickert0n undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedidn'tsayallJew'sarebad,hesaidbadpeopleareincontrolwhomhappentobeJewish,Zionismdoesnotmean
JewishanymorethanNazismmeansGerman.
http://www.truetorahjews.org/
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[] Nosra420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
theblamethejewsbitisallinyourhead.Iwasmerelylayingthegroundworkforwhyhitlerdidnotlikethejews.
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[] nonamesareleft1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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This^
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[] DoctorExplosion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwenttoarandomtimeinthevideoandheard"anyonewhodeniesthe9/11hijackersarestillaliveisawhoretotherichanda
traitortotheirclass"andimmediatelyclosedthetab.
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[] LittleLittleNaitch undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everythingisarichman'strick.
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illusionlittlelittlenaitch,atrickissomethingawhoredoesformoney
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Well...
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[] MattBahr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orcandy!
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[] Sieborg undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thankyou.
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Gladtohelp.
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[] beanmiester 13points
Currentlyworkinga12atadeadjob.Thanksforthetimesink.
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Stumbleupon?ArmorGames?Myoats?HeroMachine?
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[] GoodElevation 22points
Gotthreehourstokill?
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[] taylorha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
No.
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[] HalalVeggieBacon 4points
Allofthemajor"rights"movementsareorchestratedbyrich,whitecapitaliststodestroynationalloyaltyandcementaglobalistagenda.
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ThereisacounterofNuevoRichethatarenotallowedinthisgrouptryingtopulltheoldmoney'splanstotheground.
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Wouldn'taglobalistagendabeagoodthing?Thewarsbetweencountrieswouldhavetoendifwewereallthesamenationality.The
richareasoftheworldwouldbeforcedtosupportthepoorareasbecausethey'dbeourpeopleandourdistricts.Therewouldonlybe
oneeconomysoitwouldbereasonablystable.
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Idon'tthinkso,no.
Itcreatessinglepointsoffailure,whereeconomicdisastersaren'tcontained.Itdoesn'tridtheworldofthenaturalrealityofdifferent
languages,religionsandcultures,nordoesitredistributewealthtopoorareasforanyreasonbuttousethoseareasforcheap
productionandmanufacturing.
Globalismisn'tforyouormetobenefitfrom,it'sforthem.
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[] Rock_N_Rye undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wow.Hadn'theardthatbefore,doesn'tsoundveryplausible.Canyouimaginetheincredibleamountofplanningthatwouldgointo
suchascheme,toensurethateverysinglehumanrightsmovementsomehowdidn'tincreasenationalism?Like,howdoyoukeepthe
gunrightsadvocatesandthehighlypronationalinterestgroupsfromcombining?
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That'swhat'ssloweditdownthenaturaltendencyforeveryactiontohaveanequalandoppositereaction.InthecaseofBLMand
otherphonyorganizations,there'sbeenahugeconservativeresurgenceintheUSasaresult.
Theproblemwiththesesortofthingsisthatthepopulationassumesthatifthere'sanunderlyingagenda,itcouldonlybetrueifit's
successful.Theproblemwiththisisthatthey'reoftennot,asrich,influentialnarcissistsarestillfaultyhumanbeingswithalimited
capacitytopredictoutcomes.
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So...notactuallyaconspiracythen,youthinkrichweirdosjustbankrolledfolkslikeMartinLutherKingjr.withlittleforethought,
exceptthatitwillsomehow...whatwasit,createaOneWorldGovernment?
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It'slessofaconspiracythanitisacollusion.
NobodybankrolledMartinLutherKingJr.We'retalkingabout"civilrights"movements,notcivilrightsmovements.
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Iwastellingafriendtheotherdaythatthewholeblacklivesmatterthingisprobablyagovernmentinvention.
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It'snot.Itisinstitutionalthough,anditispolitical.
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"It'snot"???Howdouknow?Areuinonit?
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BecauseGeorgeSorosdropped$33millionintotheBlackLivesMattermovement,andwasalsobustedtryingtoincite
acoupinMacedoniaandpersonallyinvolvinghimselfinreformingUkraine.
Theguyisameddlingplutocrat.
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Man,thisfuckerreallygetsaround,don'the?Youcanreadtheevilinhiseyes.
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[] garyomario 23points
What'ssoimportantaboutnationalloyaltyandhowisitthreatenedbyrights?
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fortheirheritagedoesn't,forinstance,allowitsborderstobefloodedwithforeignerswhowanttotakewhatithasbuiltforitself.
Itdoesn'tsurrenderitsobligationtoproduceandcontributeinthebeliefthatitdeservesitsneighbor'sthings.Itdoesn'tallowits
mostimportantcontributorstobemarginalizedwithaweirdsortofsecularoriginalsin.Anditdoesn'trewritehistorytodemonize
thesystemthat'screatedsuccessandbenefitforalmostallpeople.
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[] Kaleesithrall94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhowdoesracismhelptounifyus?Whatpartsofhistoryarewerewriting?
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Whosaidanythingaboutracism?
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soyou'reanazi
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LITERALLYANAZI!NAZINAZI!DOTHENAZIDANCE!
Ididnazithatcoming.
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imeanyou'redescribingafascismanddoingitwithfascistterminologyyoumayaswellhavereferencedbinding
stickstogether.
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Fascismisn'thavingprideandbeingatool.
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[] HLAKBR_Means_Love undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sprettydamnstupid
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Historysaysotherwise.
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Anationofcitizenswithpridefortheirheritagedoesn't,forinstance,allowitsborderstobefloodedwithforeignerswho
wanttotakewhatithasbuiltforitself.
Uhm,theIndians,dude.
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YoumeantheIndiansthatwereslaughteringeachotherbeforetheItalianshowedup?TheonesthatpaidEuropean
settlerswithfoodinexchangefortheirhelpinslaughteringaneighboringtribe?
OrdoyoumeantheAsianIndians,who'regivenH1BvisastocomeintotheUSandreplacehighpayingAmericanjobs
withindenturedservants?
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AmericanIndiansfailedtocultivatetechnologyorcommonlanguage,andtheylostthefightagainst
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[] Kaleesithrall94 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theyalsolostthefightagainstsmallpoxandotherdiseasestheyneverhadachancetobuildan
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That'spartofprogress.
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ProgressIsyourbrainmushorhaveyoujustneverquestionedwhateverconservativerapedyour
criticalthinkingskills?
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Yes,"Progress"everysinglelittlethingthatmakesiteasyforyoutosithereandridiculemefor
notdrinkingthewhiteguiltkoolaid.
Theinternet.Airplanes.Vehicles.Thefuckingwheel,andagriculture,forfuck'ssake.Progress.
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[] GaiusOctavian8 13points
Sothewealthycreatedcivilrightsmovementstoencouragepeopletowanttotaketheirstuff?
Yeahthatmakessense.
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Theycreated"civilrights"movementstocreatedivision.
Youcompletelymissedthepoint.Allofthesethingsaredivisivetechniquestodestroynationalcohesiveness.The
byproductisthisshittyattitudeofentitlement,selfvictimizationandthecompeteinventionofoppressiontoestablish
supportforeasilycontrolled,authoritariangovernment.
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Theycreated"civilrights"movementstocreatedivision.
Whywouldtheyhaveto?Peoplegetviolentllydiviseoverabunchofmenthrowing/kickingaballaround,there's
noneedforwackyconspiracies.
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Peopledon'tdestroyandburndownsportsbarsinthenameofsports.That'stheweakestanalogyI'veread
inalongtime.
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[] marx2k undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_riot
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TheEnglishareuncivilizedmaniacs.Igetit.
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Oh?Thenwhydotheyburnthemdown?
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YoumustbeEnglish.Yoursportsfansareuncivilizedcretins.
Thatsortofthingdoesn'thappenenoughintheUnitedStatestobememorable.
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It'sprettyminor,butTrumpisademocratsenttotrytotearuptheRepublicanPartythiselectioncycletogetHilaryelected
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Ilikehowriggingtheelectionforthe"leaderofthefreeworld"is"prettyminor."
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[] deHavillandDash8Q400 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes!
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ThisisoneofthefewconspiracytheoriesthagIcanbuyinto.
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[] helacocksucker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tunderstand,isn'theleadinginthepolls?Whyiseverysoagainsthim?(Canadianhere)
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[] Coachellaweekendtwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Justgoogle"shittrumpsays"orsomethinglikethat.Dudeswhacky.
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[] helacocksucker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Takenoutofcontextsure.Whatspecificallydoyouthinkmakeshimwhacky?
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IthinkhewasactuallyhiredbytheRepublicans,buthispurposeisstillnotasalegitimatecandidate.
TheRepublicanshavehadaproblemoverthepasttwoelections:Theyspendtheentireprimaryracepanderingtowardtheradical
right,andthenbythetimethegeneralcomesaround...theyareunabletoturntheshipbacktowardthemiddleenoughtogetthe
moderatesonboardandactuallywin.
Theycan'tgettheprimarywithoutthelunaticfringeoftheirparty,andtheycan'tgetthegeneralwithoutmoderates.Butmoderates
seemtobeabletoswallowthecrazierDemocraticidealsmucheasierthantheycancrazyRepublicanones,sowhentheyhaveto
chooseoneeviloveranother...theygowiththepartythatseemstoatleastbesomewhatinterestedinhelpingoutthemiddleclassand
hasaprettylongstreakofbeingonthe"correct"sideofhistory.
So,insteadoftryingtoabandontheradicalrightandgetmoremoderatesintotheprimaries...they'vethoughtupanewplan:
Distraction.Distractthemoderatesfromtheloonypanderingtheyhavetodo.
Theydothatbyputtingaheadlinegrabbingassholerightatthefrontoftheracerightnow.Theydon'tlamentthemediablitztopaint
Trumpasamassivedouche,helltheyLOVEthat.
Andasitgetscloser,he'llkeepampingupthecrazy.He'lleventuallyimplode,andbythen...eitherCarsonorRubiowillhavelockedin
theradicals.TheywillmovetowardthecenterwhilealsotryingtomakesurethattheirbackchannelstotheleftknowthatHillary
NEEDStobenominated.
Hillarybeingnominatedisthecriticalmoveoftheirgame.Theyknowthatshe'sexhaustedherpoliticalcapitalwithmoderateAmerica,
andthatifshegetsthenod...it'llbetheirelectiontolose.Theonlythingthey'llhavetodoisnotpullaRomneyandsaysomethinglike
47%ofAmericansarelazyidiots.Iftheirnomineecanavoidablunder,hisactualplatformwon'tmatter.Hillarywilltankherselfwith
ModerateAmericaandtheGOPwillwintheWhiteHouse.
ButthisalldependsonmoderateAmericafailingtonoticethebatshitcrazynonsensecomingoutofCarsonandRubio'smouthsright
now.That'stheentirepurposeofDonaldTrump.
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[] cascade7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iactuallyseeittheotherway.hiredbytherepublicanstolookcrazyonpurposeandthenwhenanormal,rationalcandidatejumps
aheadfortherepublicanstheywilllookfarmoreelectablethantheywould'vewithouttrump
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It'snotworking,Sanders(IsweartogodI'mnotcirclejerkingpleasebelieveme)ispollingwayhigherthanHilary.Mostpeoplethink
she'saliarandit'sreallyobvioushowshedodgesquestions.
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What?Thehighestestimatesputsandersatlike35%(includingallmarginoferrorgoingtohim)Hilaryisconstantlypolling~70%
(lowestimateputsherat65%)
Ifyouthinksandersisaheadyouneedtodoublecheckyourmath
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OhIwas,butinthelastdebatepeoplepreferredSandersatleast.Ithoughthewasgoingstringerbutit's56to31forHilary
rightnowsoyou'reright,mymistake.
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No,I'msorry,IusedtobeaRepublicanandIcanassureyou,they'rereallyjustthatstupid.
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Youthinkrepublicanvotersarethatdumb?
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[] jaeldi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TrumpistheendresultoftheRepublicanmethodofpursuingfundsforelections.Insteadofsuckinguptobillionairestogetmoneyto
winelectionsitwasinevitablethatitwasgoingtodawnonthebillionairestheycouldsavealotoftroubleandjustcutoutthemiddle
man.Trumpisjustthefirstone.
Republicans!Whippingupamoborwhippingupacontroversialdebatetowinvotes,thenlosingcontrolofwhattheywhippedup.
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[] UndeadBread undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnotquiteconvincedthathe'sademocrat,butIamabsolutelycertainheisgoingoutofhiswaytosaythemostridiculousshithecan
thinkof.
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[] FeculentUtopia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhataboutBenCarson.Hisbrandofinsanityisabitdifferent,butwithoutTrumptostandinhisway,theRepublicanfrontrunnerwould
beabrainsurgeonwhothinksthesciencethatmakeshisvocationpossibleisallcleverliestoldbySatan.
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[] DudeGuyBor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...Idon'tthinkeventhemostrightwinghating,communisticdemocrathatestheU.S.thatmuchtotrytoinflictheronus.
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TrumpisatoolfordeflectingattentionawayfromthefinalRepublicannomineeuntilthelasttwomonths.Trumpalsokeepsasortof
"Christmaswishlist"aliveofallthethingsthatfiscalconservativeswouldliketoseehappenbutthepartyelitewillneveractuallypermit
tohappen.HealsoholdstheattentionofundecidedvotersinawaythatHillaryorBernieneverwill.MyguessisthatTrumpmadea
dealwiththetopdonorstotheRepublicanpartyoverayearagothatinexchangeforhavingalleyesonhimformonths,hewould
agreetodropoutthemomenttheyaskhimtoandgivehisunconditionalendorsementtothefinalnominee.Ithinkthegameisso
riggedthatpollswilldesigntheirtargetaudiencesothattheyarecertaintoendupwithaparticularnumber.
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[] zeus2133 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Honestlyallwearemissingatthispointissomeonesayingasmuchonrecordoraleakedcorrespondence.It'skindasadhoweasilyhe
hasbeenplayingtherepublicans...meanwhileCarsonissittingtherelikeIjustwantedtobesurgeongeneralhowthefuckamIafront
runner?!?!
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[] ehImCanadian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisistheoneIbelieveaswellhedonatedtoDemocratsfor40yearstheninthelast5turnsRepublicanseemsoddtome,healso
donated$100,000stoPACSthathelpedNancyPelositalkingproimmigrationinCalifornia.
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[] fatnino undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idontknowifhe's(they're?)doingitonpurpose,butheisdefinitelyhandingitHillary.
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Well,he'sgoneoffthedeependnow,butthethingshewasinitiallysayingweredefinitelynovelandinterestingintherealmofthe
usualpoliticalpandering.It'ssoweirdthatdomestictradeprotectionissuchatabooissue.
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Eh.Ilikeit.Butmorelikelyhe'sanarcissistsentbyhisownegotogetattentionbyanymeansnecassary.
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[] calabhan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisissomethingIbelievethatI'mnotvocalabout.
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[] AbleWyattMann undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Humblypromoting/r/VoteTrumpYouLoser
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[] Noodle36 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebelievedthisforawhile,didn'tknowanyoneelsedid.Hiscampaignmakesnoeffortatactualgeneralelectionviabilitywhileplaying
exactlyintotheareaswheretheriftbetweentheRepublicanestablishmentanditsbaseismostevidentandexploitable.Bybeingthere
andbeingextremeheforcestheothercandidatestoeitherleanoverintoterritorytheydon'twanttogetnear,oralienateabigchunkof
thebaseandlookweak.
HillaryClintonhasbeencampaigningforpresidentsinceessentiallythelate90s,inthateverythingshe'sdonesincethenwas
positioning.Hercampaignwasconsideredanunstoppablejuggernautin2007andit'sonlybeengrowingsincethen.Thisisthekind
ofthingacampaignlikethatmaybecoulddo.WeknowthattheClintonandTrumpfamilieshavelongestablishedties.
Also,sheisanobjectivelybadcandidateinmanyways,inthatshe'sforcedandunlikeable(subjectiveIknow),hasenormous
negativesinallpolling,andisveryeasytocampaignagainstasaRepublican.Yettheonlyseriouschallengershefacesisamarginal
partyoutsider(Sanders,whosepopularitywouldhavebeenahugesurprisetoseniorDemicrats).Itwouldactuallybewildly
irresponsibleforthepartyestablishmenttojusthandhertheracelikethisifshedidn'thavesomekindofkillermanoeuvrelikethisin
place.InaheadtoheadwithamoderateandcompetentRepublican,she'sintrouble.InaracewithHillary,sayRubio,andTrumpas
anindependent,I'dsayshe'sashooin.
Iknowitsoundstotallyunreasonable,butonceitoccurredtomeitjustfittooneatlyandIfoundmyselfmoreandmoreconvinced.Inb4
"Clintonderangementsyndrome".
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[] OrangeTabbyTwinSis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseethisalot,butIthinkhe'dbestrengtheningtherepublicanpartyifanything.Idon'tknowmuchatall,butitseemslikeneitherparty
hasalegitimatecandidateyet,anyway.
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[] nohxtractor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yea,himandBernieSandersaregoingtogettogetherandstealthehopediamondonelectionnight.
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[] golgol12 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkheisademocrat,butIdothinkheisindependentofthecurrentleadersofrepublicanparty,anddoesn'thavetoconformto
theideologybecauseheisrichenoughtobuyalltheadvertisingheneeds.Ooo,thatgivesmeanideaforaconspiracytheory.
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[] flyingseel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thegapingflawintheplan?Hilary.
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[] manapan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SometimesIthinkthateveryelectionisaconspiracydesignedtomakeusthinkwehadachoice.Like,2008,ObamaandMcCainwere
prettycloseuntiltheyannouncedrunningmatesandeveryonerealized"ohshit,McCainisoldafandwhenhekicksitwe'restuck
withMrs.ThinksRussiaisHerPersonalBackyard?Helltotheno!"andthatmadethevotescomeoutinthepredeterminedmanner.
That'swhatIhopeishappeningwithTrump,anyway...
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[] wristrockets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mytheoryisthathe'sgonnadropoutoftherace,thengobackontv.Allthispublicityfromrunningforpresidenthasputhimbackinthe
spotlight,sopeoplearegonnawanttowatchhisnewshow.Trump'sabusinessman.Hewantstomakemoney.Hecanmakemore
moneyfromatvshowratherthanbeingpresident.
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[] the_city_drive undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkheread"TheWave"anddecideditwouldbefuntotryhimself.
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[] Parnasse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sprettyminor
...lol.
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orthathisextremismisallanacttogainthefarright'svote.
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[] anonymity_is_cancer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsgoodtome,anythingbuttheNaziparty2016
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[] AwfulWaffleWalker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vehadtolistentothisconspiracyfrommymotherformonths..Thefactthatshe'sapparentlynottheonlyonethinkingitjustmakes
meevenmorefrustrated.
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Ikeephearingpeoplesaythat,butdownhereinGAtherearealotoflegitTrumpsupporters.Mymomjustsaidafewhoursago,"yea
he'sanasshole,butthat'soneofthethingsthatmakeshimcharming."Really???
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[] das_thorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Myquestionsare,washesentbytheDemocratsorishedoingthisonhisowntohelphisoldfriendHillary?Andiftheformer,ishein
onthefact,ordidtheDemsjustnudgehimalongbehindthescenes.
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[] cvnovice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TrumpisactuallyreasonablecomparedtopeopleliketedcruzorLindsaygrahm,howdotheyevenhavejobs?Theyaresomeofthe
mostignorantpeopleiveeverhadthedispleasureoflisteningto
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Sandersiscrazierthanbothofthem.
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[] cvnovice undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatopinionsorpositionsofsanders'doyoufeeljustifythatstatement?
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Heislikea1930'sstreetorganizer.
Heisaselfdescribedsocialist(democraticsocialistbutstillasocialist).Heseemstobelievethericharethisunlimited
wellofmoneythatwillneverexpat.Hejustdoesn'tseemtohaveasolidgrasponreality
Heisnuts.
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[] Stevehops undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NoheisaplantbytheRepublicanstomakeJebBushseemnormal.Trumpwilldropoutbeforetheprimary.
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[] reindeer73 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TangentialtothisisHilaryisfundingTrump'scampaign.Shehasalotofdarkmoneymovingaroundandtrumpspersonalaccounts
aren'tdecreasingeventhoughheclaimshe'sfundingithimself.
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[] sirtydoaps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stoptryingtomakethishappen!
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[] SwimminAss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IhonestlythinkTrumpdoesn'twanttobepresident.Ihonestlythinkthatwearegonnagetprettyclosetoelectiontimeandnomatter
howfaraheadheis,hewilldropoutandbelike,piecebitchesthanksforthepublicityy'allnearlyvotedformydumbass.
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[] FlexGunship undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salmostobviousatthispoint.Lookathisvotingrecord.Democratfordecadesthenrunsasarepublican?
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[] Woodshadow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mhopingsobadhesaysfucktherepublicanpartyandrunshisownparty.ItwouldbelikeRalphNaderexceptfuckingtherepublicans
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[] AidanHU4L undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Veryelaborateconsideringhispoliticalleaningsthroughthepast
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[] porgy_tirebiter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notsomuchaconspiracy,butIsuspectCarsoninitiallywantedtoincreasehisbrandrecognitionprimarily,andmuchtohissurprise
thingstookoff,sohejustwentwithit.
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[] neoballoon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AManchuriancandidate
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[] ckach undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhe'stheretolookcrazy,butthenloseintheprimaries.ThenamoremoderateRepublicanwillwinandwillseemveryappealing
toeveryonebycomparison.
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[] Altair05 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthisistrue,itsadoubleedgedsword.WhileTrumpisdrivingawayindependentsandmoderateRepublicans,heistearingupthe
evangelicalandneoconservativebase.Democratsnaturallyhavealowvoterturnoutandifitstaysthatwayin2016,allofthatright
wingdrivewillbackfire.
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[] ElectricTumbleweed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ortrumpistheretomaketheotherrepublicansseemmoremoderate.
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HecouldalsobeaRepublicanshilltomaketheotherguysseemsane.
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[] LeakyLycanthrope undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifitturnsoutthisistrue,butitbackfiresandheactuallygetselected,I'mgonnabepissed.
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[] agoddamnlegend undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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TrumpisdoingwondersfortheRepublicanParty.Howmany1830yearoldswatchedtheGOPdebates,whonormallywouldhave
nevercared?BestcaseTrumpmakestheothercandidatesseemlessracistincomparisonandpotentiallylikabletoademographicthe
Republicanshavecompletelylost.
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Wellhewasprettyliberaluntilrecently.Ican'tremembermuchbuthewasveryclearlyprochoiceadecadeagoandhasbyhisown
admissiontakenadvantageofgovernmentloopholesthatallowhimtogetahead.
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[] RhodesTone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
addingtothisisananecdotethatBillClintonspokewithTrumpatlengthonthephonebeforehiscampaignwaslaunched
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[] Gotitaila undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellthenhe'sfailingmiserably.
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[] jabari74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iliketheothersideofitbetterhe'saRepublicanplantmeanttoattractallthecrazyduringtheprimariesthatwilloftencausethe
Republicancandidatetoswingtofartootherightearlyon(duetotheneedtopandertotheirmoreconservativebase)andwilldropout
leavingtheirtruecandidate(Rubio/Bush)withoutallthatbaggage.
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[] wolf123450 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknow,thisexactsamethoughtoccurredtomeearliertoday...It'sgottabetrue.
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IfiguredhewastheretotakeallthenewschannelssothatBerniegotlesstime.
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[] awesnapp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhatIthoughtaboutSarahPalin.
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[] SwansonHOPS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpistoogreedytotrytohelpanybodyelse
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[] Yokhen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Igottoldhewasanagentdevisedbytheotherrepublicancandidatesinordertomakethemlooklessbad.
Butthenagainnocluehowthatwouldwork.
Idon'tknowhowpoliticsworkeither.
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[] PugsHugsnDrugs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheweirderhegetsthemoreIbelievesomethingsimilartothis.Untilacoupleyearsago,heexpressedreallyliberalviews.Ithinkhe's
purposelytryingtoparodytherepublicanpartysohardhemakestheAmericanpeopleseehowridiculoustheyare,butitbackfired.
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[] Vapidperson undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwillbesurprisedifheisactuallyontheprimaryballotsinmostofthestates.Ineverbelievedhewasactuallyrunning.Ithinkheis
runningforacombinationofpublicityinturntomakemoremoneyandtofeedhisego.Possiblytostrongarmsomelawstobepassed
infavorofhisbusiness.RemindsmeoftheHermanCaincampaignandsomeothers.Idonotthinkheisstupid,Ithinkhehasaplan
andagenda,butIdonotthinkitistobecomepresident.
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[] salawm undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinksomethingsimilarbutontheRepublicanside.He'sagreatdestractorfromthemainissuesbecausehebecomestheissue.
Thus,therealissuesdon'tgetaddressed.Hemightdropoutwhenelectionsarecloserandthat'swhenJebstepsupofmaybehewins
thepartynomination.
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Thiswouldbeglorious!
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[] Workaphobia undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Noonecanfakebeingthatmuchofanegocentricasshole.Anecocentricassholewouldn'tbeinitforanyoneelse.
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[] Milhoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheflawofthisisTrump'segoistoobigtoletsomeoneorderhimaround.
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[] altimate undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'llmovetoChina.
https://youtu.be/RDrfE9I8_hs
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[] LiquidMonocle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknow,it'shardformetobelievethatsomebodyaswealthyasDonaldTrumpisliberalatheart.It'sdefinitelypossible,butIthink
it'satleastunlikely.Economicsatitsheartisconservative,butitispossiblethathecouldbealiberal.
Thatbeingsaid,Idon'tthinkthat'sthecasebecauseIfeellikesomeonewhowasformerlyonlyseenaskindofarichassholewouldn't
elevatehisreputationtobrazen,blatantlyracist,crazyrightwingasshole.Andforwhat?Sothattherepublicansloseoneelection?
Thatseemslikealotoflongtermeffectsforashorttermconclusion.
Iunderstandtheappealofthetheory,butitjustseemsunlikely.
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[] JakeDoubleyoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifhestaysintherace,theDemocratswillwinandthey'llowehim.Ifhedropsout,theRepublicanswillwinandthey'llowehim.
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Andhe'swinning.ifitwastruehewouldn'tdoallthedumbshithedoes,hewouldactuallytettogetelected.Iguesstheyare
exchangeablewhenreferringtotheGOP...
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Tobefair,trumpisat30%andsandersisatlike30%.Itjustshowsthat30%ofbothpartiesarelunitics.Thedemocratsjusthave
fewercandidates
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TobehonestIthinkeverysinglepersonrunningforpresidentisalunatic.
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I'vebeensayingforalongtimenowthatTrumpisanIRLtrollwho'stryingtodestroytheRepublicanPartyfromwithin.
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[] francisco1989 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Na,he'sjustgenuinelyinsane.
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[] SlimmestShady undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagreewiththis100%.Alloftheevidencelinesupperfectly.IwillputmoneyonaDemocratwinningthiselection.
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[] MaximumAbsorbency undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpisdoingoneof3things
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1. He'saDemocratandrunningtogetHilaryelectedortowinhimselfandbeaRepublicanInNameOnlyPresident
2. He'srunningsohecanwinandsayheliterallyboughtthepresidencyasproofthatthesystemneedstobetorndownandrebuilt
3. He'srunningasalegitRepublicansohecandropoutandendorseBushatthelastminute,becausetheBushesarepayinghim
off.
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[] Gshock342 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhe'sdoingittogetmorepeopletoactuallyshowupandvotesohecansayhegotpeopletovoteunlikeObamamakehimself
lookgoodwhilegivingnofks
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Ithoughtthatatfirst,buthe'sactuallymorepopularthanClintonnow.
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Ihonestlybelievehisentirecampaignstartedoutjustlikehispreviouscampaignspublicityforanupcomingshow/newseason.This
time,however,peopleboughtintoitandhejustwent"fuckit,let'sseewherethisshitgoes."
Ifnothingelse,heisaperfectcaricatureofourcurrentpoliticalshitshow.
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Isortofbelievethisgivenhishistoryofdonationstomostpoliticians,eventheClintons.Idon'tthinkhe'saDemocratperse,butIdo
thinkhe'smorethanhappytoplayuptheblowhardpersona(evenifit'ssemiauthentic)andpandertoacertainaudience.He'snot
doinganythingpoliticianshaven't,he'sjustdoingitbetterandonhisowndime,whichgiveshimmoreindependence.
Iactuallykindofadmirehowmanyflawsinourelectoralandpoliticalsystemhe'sexposing.Herealizedhecouldeffectivelymakethe
GOPbackhimofficiallyorsplitthevote,whichwouldhandtheDemocratstheelection,andthey'repissingtheirpantsoverthatthought.
HeknowstheLibertarianfaction,whilenotwelllikedintheGOP,isoutrightdespisedandwillnevergetanysayintheDemocratic
camp.AndheknowsthatHilaryisprobablyacceptableenoughthatiftheRepublicansbleedvotesthey'llbemoreokaywithherthan
withanyalternatives.
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[] IWantToBeAProducer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Opposite.He'sbeingusedbytheRepublicanpartytomakealltheothercandidateslookmoremoderatethantheyare.
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[] Protocol2319 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ipredictthatheifhewinstherepublicannomination,hewillafterafewdaysstepdownandendorsewhoeverpayshimthemostforhis
endorsement.
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[] forzion_no_mouse undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
orhejustlovesattentionandthisistheeasiestwaytogetit.
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[] jinqsi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhytheFUCKwouldyouthinkthatisminor?Underminingourelectionisn'tminor.
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IfeellikeallthisstufftheRepubshavebeendoing(Bengazi,theemails)isjustawaytogetHillarymoreairtime,andmorefamiliarity
withvoters.AllofitorchestratedbyHillary'scampaign.
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[] koavf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sprettyminor
IfstealingtheAmericanpresidencyis"minor"toyouwhatwouldconstitute"major"?
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[] breakerbreaker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Interestingchoiceofconspiracytheorytherer/evolutionisbullshit.
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Occam'sRazor
Trumpisanidiotandhewantstobepresident.
He'sdoingwellinthepollsbecausethosepeopleareidiotstoo.
SeeBushcampaign.Everyonethought"Thiscan'tbeserioushe'stoodumbtowin,thepollsmustbewrong".Guesswhat,hewon.
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[] tunersharkbitten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
itsallfunandgamesuntilweactuallyhavedonaldtrumpasthenextpresidentoftheUS...
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[] Quarter_Twenty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
They'veexceededtheusual120minutesforLifetimemovies,andtheyhaven'tevenreachedthepartwheretheprotagoniststunsthe
adoringfansintosilenceandshamewiththerevelation.
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Sameasmytheory!Brother!
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[] dumbidiot46 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ortomakeamockeryofgovernment,disenfranchisedemocratvotersbypresentingthemasystemwheresomeoneasaridiculousas
DonaldTrumpcouldmakeitthisfar.
IreallythinkthathiscampaignisjustanattemptbycorporateAmericatomakepeoplelosefaithingovernment.Perfecttimingwiththe
TPPaswell.
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Ireallywishwewerethisdiabolical.
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Ifindthatutterlyhardtoswallow.heisarepublicanleaningindependantbutcouldntgetanominationwithoutthecacus.whilehecould
getthenominationonewayortheothertherepubswheretheonlyonesthatwouldlistentothisshitstorm.whoamIkiddingthough,
eitherheiscompletelygenuousorcompletelyingenuousIjustcan'ttellwhich...
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[] ImmaZoni undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifyoulookinthepasttrumpactuallydoeshavealotofdemocratictendency's
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[] Gigglepops1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThissoundslikearomurstartedbytheHillarycampaigntohurtTrump'ssupport.
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[] metubialman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ireadthatthereisavideosomewhereofhimfromseveralyearsagosayingthathe'drunandpandertothemostidioticgroupof
peopleorsomethinglikethat.Isthattrue?Doesanyonehavethatvideo?
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[] 20InMyHead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Right,becausetheothercandidatesarenotalleitherbatshitreligiouscrazyorcompletelyincompetent.TheDemocratsdon'tneedto
sabotagetheRepublicans,they'redoingafinejoballbythemselves.
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[] GretSeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BernieSanders*
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It'sprettyminor
...GoesontostatethatTrumpisbeingusedtomanipulateapoliticalelection.
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[] FeedbackLoopAgain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeenconvincedofthisforquiteawhile.Infact,IthinkthatTrumpmayhavebeenshillingforthedemocratsevenbackin
2011/2012whenherevivedthebirthcertificatenonsense.Byrevivingtheissue,he1)putrepublicancandidatesinthepositionof
havingtoanswerquestionsaboutit,and2)beganestablishinghisbonafideswiththerightringwackoelementinadvanceofthenext
(this)election.
Afewpointstoconsiderregardingthecurrentcampaign:
TrumphasbeenchummywiththeClintonsforatleasttenyears.
HeandBillaregolfbuddies.
IvankaandChelseaareveryclosefriendsandhavebeenforyears.
NotonlywasTrumpademocratbeforebuthesolidlysupportedsinglepayerhealthcareandabortion.
Hisreasonforswitchingfromsupportingevenpartialbirthabortiontobeingsolidlyprolifeissoridiculousthatit'salmostahintof
hisshenanigans.(Heknewacouplethatwasgoingtoabortbutoptednotto.Theresultingkidturnedouttobegreat!)
Thexenophobicdemagogueryheopenedhiscampaignwithwaslaughinglyoverthetopandimpossibletoretreatfrominthe
generalelection,indicatingthatheclearlyisn'tinterestedinwinningoverthegeneralelectorate,onlytheprimarywackos(orthe
wackosinthegeneralelectionwho'dsplitthepartyvoteifhedoesgoindependent).
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[] blankachiever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatandthingsdidn'tgoasplannedwhenhesaidabunchofracistshitandhadterribleideasandallthemoronswhovoteinthe
republicanprimariessupportedit?Sonowwhat?Doeshehavetokeeptryingtobemoreandmoreoutrageous?
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He'scertainlydoingagoodjobexposingthemfortheirunbridledlunacy.
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[] Justkevin87 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veheardhewantsaspotasatreasurerandustryingtodrawsomeRepublicanvote
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[] daswef undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mytheorywasthathe'dplayspoiler,andwouldmissthenominationbutrun3rdpartyinordertoguaranteeaDemocraticwin.
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[] Ragnrok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifeellikewe'reallgonnaactlikeTrumpisjustplayingajokeonusuntilthedayhe'selectedpresident,thenwe'regonnarealizehow
foolishwewere.
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[] EVOSexyBeast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tbh,runningforpresidentasajokewouldbealittlefunnythingI'ddoifIwasabillionaire.
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[] Meadslosh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
togetBernieelected
FTFY
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[] GillicuttyMcAnus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CorollaryFredPhelps(WBCfounder)wasadeepcoverliberalwho'sgoalwastoradicalizeandalienate(viapublicaopinion)
evangelicalism.
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[] goldishblue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'veheardthis!HebasicallybreakstheReagandoctrineofdon'ttalkaboutyourfellowrepublicanseveryday.
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[] DigUpStupid1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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WellTrumphasdonatedtoHilarycampaignbefore
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[] tabasaur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwasthinkingthesamething!He'salsohelpingusidentifytheseriouslyproblematicpeopleofAmerica(hissupporters)
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[] a_red_door undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinktheoppositeofthisconspiracytheoryisequallyvalid:DonaldTrumpisaRepublicanpartyplantwhocansaycrazythingstofire
upthebasebeforedroppingouttomakewayfortherealnominee.
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IthinktrumpknowsthateitherHillary/BernieisourbestbetandwantstodetailanyrepublicansoHillary/Berniecanwin.
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[] CosmonautMikeDexxter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dopeopleactuallybelievethis,oristhisajoke.Iseethisgetpostedalloverredditanditjustdoesn'tmakeasinglebitofsense.
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[] Eskimosam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilikethis.MyTrumpconspiracytheoryisthathedidn'texpecttobethefrontrunnerheissohe'spanickingandtryingtolose/seem
unelectablebecausehe'stoodeepandgrowntopopulartosimplystepdown.
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[] password_is_rewqrewq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Similarly,mytheoryisthatMartinO'MalleywasHillary'sVPpickandtheyhadhimrunwhenBerniebecameathreatinordertosplitthe
"anyonebutHillary"votesawayfromhim.
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[] ThePoorNeedChange undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhe'sjustdoingitforpublicityandwillresignifhegetselected,hedoesn'treallywanttobepresident.Whywouldsomeonelike
himgiveashit.
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[] varukasalt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bernieyoumean
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[] TardInTraffic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Smallloanofamilliondollars$
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[] steaker1705 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hilary
deargodpleaseno.
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[] bookwench undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpisgettingbigpublicity.He'sapublicitymachine.Thenhestepsdown,Carsonstepsdown,Rubiomodestlytakesthenomination
andgoesupagainstHillary.YouthinktheRepublicansdon'tknowtheirdemographic?Theyhaveaplan.
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[] jaretok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'stheheel,she'sthebabyface.Theydoitliterallyeverysingleelection.Classicprowrestlingangles.
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[] captainwmh undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hewasactuallyasdemocratleaderaswellasindependentandcoupleofothers,it'sallthereonWikipedia.
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Isowanttobelievethattrumpispullinga'TheWave'likethatmovie.
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Alittlebirdwhisperedthesamedamnthinginmyear.Thatlittlebird'sname?Reddit.
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[] DannytheGOAT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthiswasthecaseandhepubliclyadmitteditafterlosingtheelection,couldtheRepublicanssuehim?
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[] honeydicker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthatweretrue,itwouldbeevenmoreimpressivehowhemanagedtorounduptherightwingfringeestablishmentevenbefore
announcinghisrunforpresident.Hesaysthingsthatpeopleneverwantedtosayoutloud,butnowtheycanbecausea"legitimate"
politician(presidentialcandidateinthiscase)hasthoseviewstoo.It'sfascinatingbutreallyconcerning.c
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[] UknowNothingJohnSno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mytheory,FiorinawasrecruitedtotearapartHillary.Menhadbeengettingtonsofshitforbeingtooaggressiveand/orsexistagainst
Hildog.ThenFiorinacomesoutaweekorsolaterandprobably90%ofherinitialplatformaddressedClinton.Seemedobviousatthe
time...Afterwardsshefadedawayexceptwhenshecouldtakeaconservativeapproachthatwouldntbepopularwithdemocrats(aka
sayingshitthatwontwinyouvotes).SeemslikeasolidcareermoveforherIMO.
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[] Bagelstein undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'ssadisthatthisisalmostasbelievablehimbeingalegitimatecandidate.
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Whateverittakes,he'sgotmyvote.
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[] BayouBoogie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GetBernieelected.....ftfy
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[] OC4815162342 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellhewasavocalsupporteranddonorofclintonsin2008
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[] reltd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ican'timagineTrump,withallhisyearsofexperienceinsuccessfullydoingbusinesswouldthinkitwisetomockahandicappedperson
likethat.Iknowhe'sfriendswiththeBushfamily,somyconspiracyisthathe'stryingtolooklikealoontomakeJeblooklikethe"only
rationalchoice",butit'snotworkingsohe'stryingtoactdumberanddumber.
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IswitchbetweenthisexplanationandhimjustwantingtosabotageJeb.Atanyrate,Idon'tthinkheeverexpectedhisbidtobetaken
seriously.Ithinkhejustwanted15minutesinthespotlightbecausehe'saperpetualattentionwhore,saidabunchofoutrageous
bullshitbecauseit'dgetheadlines,andhe'ssittingaroundwonderinghowthehellanyone'stakinghiscampaignseriously.He'snot
dumbenoughtoseriouslysupportcreatingadatabaseofMuslims.TheHitlercomparisonwritesitself.Furthermore,Idoubthe'sdumb
enoughtomockadisabledpersonifheactuallywantedthenomination.Ithinkhe'sinfullselfsabotagemode,andnothing'sworking.
Atthisrate,he'sgonnashowuptoadebateinblackfacebyNewYear'sEve.
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[] vintagesheets undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'swhyI'mvotingforhimintheprimaries!
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[] lazarus870 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkDonaldandHillaryareactuallyfriends.Ibelievehe'sdonatedtohercampaigninthepast.It'snotoutsidetherealmofpossibility.
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[] Avizard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butthereisnootherrepublicancandidate.
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[] AnOriginailName undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IsawanothertheorysayingTrumpbuysoutpollstosayhe'saheadsopeoplewillactuallybelieveheisaheadthuspeoplevotingfor
someonewhoeveryoneelseseemstothinkisasuitablecandidate.
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[] MsHellsing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwanthimtosaysomethingsooutlandish,andhavepeoplecheerhim,andwatchthetippingpointhappen.Wherehebreakscharacter
andhasgiantpubliccrisisabouthowpeoplecouldsupporttheinsanityhe'sspewing.Andhowtheyshouldallbeashamedof
themselves.
KindoflikehowtheMandarininIronMan3wasatotalsham.
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[] MK0Q1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GetBernieelected.
Ftfy
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[] gurg2k1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkit'smorelikelythathe'stheinflammatorycandidatewhocanslingmudatDemocratsonlytobowoutbeforetheelection.
He'sthedudetakingonefortheteamsothathisfriendcangetwiththehotgirl.
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[] halocupcake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evenifitisn'ttheirplan,it'sworking.
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[] CaptainColeslaw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andhe'sdoingitsohewillgetsomejuicyfederallanddealonceHillarygetselected.
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[] f0ru0l0rd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
RossPerot
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[] Ceedub260 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ikindabelievethisone.
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[] hunter1447 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsaRepublican,Ifullyagree.Theorangebuffoonrepresentsnothingwestandfor,andasolidthirdofmypartyiseatingtheshitup.
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thatwouldbebelievableifitwasn'tforSandersthough.I'mprettysurehe'sblowingheroutofthewater.TheonlypeopleIsee
supportingherarethetypeofwomenthatarejustgoingtovotebecause,womanorpeoplethatdon'tpayattentionandjustwillvote
becauseshe'saDemandtheyalreadyknowthename.
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[] Whiteice1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AfterIfoundoutthathepubliclymockedthatdisabledreporter,Ihaveahardtimebelievingotherwise.Eitherheisacompletelunatic
withnocompassionforotherpeople,orhisintentistotearaparttherepublicanparty.However,Ihaveahardtimebelievinghewould
publiclymockadisabledreporterwithouthavingafewscrewslooseeitherway,becausethathurtshisselfimagemorethananything
hesaysregardingimmigrants.
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Icouldbelievethat,seeingashefairlyrecentlytotallyreversedhispositiononalotofissues.
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[] SheetShitter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisistrue,butialsothinkthattrumprealizeshemayactuallywin,sonowhe'sgoneagainsttheplantotryandwin
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[] redditor1983 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkit'sthatcomplex.IthinkTrumpisrunningjustforthepublicity.
Trumphasalwaysbeen100%aboutpublicity,andacampaignforPresidentisthebestpublicitymoneycanbuy(constantmedia
coverage).Hehappenstobeindependentlywealthy,sohehastheoptiontorunforPresident.
Ithinkhe'snaturallyoutspokenandbombastic,butforthecampaignheturnsitupto11becausethatgetshimevenmoremedia
coverage.
ThisiswidelyspeculatedtobethemainreasonthatBenCarsonisrunningaswell.Peopledon'trealizehowlucrativethebookdeals
andlecturecircuitcanbeforaformerPresidentialcandidate.Carsontooktimeoffinthemiddleofthecampaigntodoabooktourand
theofficialtitleofhiscampaignmanageris"businessmanager."Ithinkthatsaysitallrightthere.
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SpeakingasaDemocratandaTeamFortress2player,"Thatbusinessmanisaspy!"Notsureexactlyhowtofeelaboutthisifthis
turnsouttobetrue,asIwantourpartytowin,butIwantacleanfightaswell.
Intruderalert!ADemocratisinourprimary!
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[] MerryMisfit76 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Isn'theinthenumber1slotthough?
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[] mastersword130 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndfunnythingIcan'tstandneither
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[] jdbrew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vethoughtthissamethingbuttofurtherit,I'mnotsurehe'sevenaware.Ithinkitwasconcoctedwithouthisknowledgeandhe'sa
pawnsurroundedbyadvisorsfeedinghimencouragementandbogusideas
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[] Stolzieren__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhatifBerniegetselectedtho
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[] mccoyn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BernieisHillary'sagentaswell.Beforeshecomesoutwithanyposition,hetriesitoutfirsttofindouthowpopularitwillbe.
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[] Stolzieren__ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
D:
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[] Delaywaves undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol
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[] ifeelhome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Anotsoconspiracytheoryishe'splayingjustcrazyenoughsotherepublicanskeephimhappyinthepartybecausetheyknowifhe
leavesthedemocratswinbecausehecan'tgarnerenoughvotestoWINasanindependentbutcangarnerenoughvotestoensurethe
REPUBLICANSlose.Inthisinstanceregardlessofwhichpartywinstheybasicallyoweittotrump.
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[] JAmes1620 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthatwastruehewouldjustrunasathirdparty.
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[] FeedMeCletus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwas100%convincedofthisearlyon,nowIjustthinkhe'safuckhead
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ifit'sworking,itonlyreflectsbadlyontheGOPvoterswhosupporthim.
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it'snotasiftherestofthepartyisntashitshow.
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[] sushilantern undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soyou'resayingol'DonaldistheDemocrat's.....trumpcard?
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[] labrev undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msosorrythiswillstayburied,butit'smagical.Goyou.
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Getout
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Ilikethisone,buttheplanisinherentlyflawedbecausehemakesthepopulationevenmorejingoisticintheprocess.
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[] Crazycat1ady1ondon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Orhe'sarepublican,andheisdoingallthistogivetheseriouscandidatesabreakfromthescrutiny?IfIamrighthewillabruptlydrop
outandbackoneoftheothers.
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[] JohnQuicyAdams undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oh,Ithoughtitwasthekindatheopposite.TrumplookssofuckinginsanethattheotherRepublicansseemmuchmorepalatableand
unoffensive.
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[] Nyaos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tbelievethis,ratherit'sjustasignofhowfuckedandfracturedtheRepublicanPartyis.
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So,whenheisinevitablynottherepublicancandidate,he'llrunasanindependentandwintheelectionforthedemocrats?Thereare
quoteslikethis:
"Inmanycases,IprobablyidentifymoreasDemocrat,"TrumptoldCNN'sWolfBlitzerina2004interview."Itjustseemsthatthe
economydoesbetterundertheDemocratsthantheRepublicans.Now,itshouldn'tbethatway.Butifyougoback,Imeanitjust
seemsthattheeconomydoesbetterundertheDemocrats....ButcertainlywehadsomeverygoodeconomiesunderDemocrats,as
wellasRepublicans.Butwe'vehadsomeprettybaddisasterundertheRepublicans."
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[] MatCauthonsHat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vebeensayingformonthsTrumpisn'tarealcandidateanddoesn'twantthenominaton.
Heisapaiddistraction.Someoneconvincedhimtoruntocreateadisturbance.Mytwoquestionsare...
1. WhatconaretheyrunningwhileeveryoneiswatchingTrump?
2. Whatishispayoff?Trumpdoesn'tdoanythingforfree.Heisgettingpaid,andpaidbigforthis.
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[] NEEDZMOAR_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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thisisactuallymorebelievablethanahumanbeingisthisstupid.
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[] DBones90 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tbuyit.Ifanything,he'shelpingtheotherRepublicancandidates.Hesaysabunchofcrazyshitandtherestofthecandidateslook
moremainlinebysimplynotbeinghim.
Imean,thinkofhowfarCarsongotthiscyclebeforeweallrealizedhowbullshitheis.Nowaythatwouldhappeninotherelection
cycles.
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[] Jolly_not_Jelly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiskindofconspiracytheoryjustshowshowterrifiedtheleftisofTheDonald
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[] grundelstiltskin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatifhe'sBerniesinsideman?IfHillarylosesthepopularvotebutstillwinsthenomination,trumpandsandersrunindependentand
leadtothemostepicallyunpredictableofallpossibleoutcomes
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prettyminor
Well..Iguess.It'sonlyaboutyournationspolitics.Obviouslynothingbadwillhappenwiththoseassclownsgettingpower.
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[] teamnestle undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheRepublicanPartyisroutinelylambastedasthat"dumbconservativeparty"bythemediaandisveeringclosetobeingblackballed
frompoliticsitselfbyagoodmajorityofthepopulation,andsuddenlyit'saconspiracythatonlypeoplelikeTrumpinthisyear'sGOP
primary?
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[] MrMadcap undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Substitute"Plutocrat",andIentirelyagree.
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[] XeioZism undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howcanhilarygetelected?Iknow0peoplewhoarevotingforhilary.I'veonlyheardTrumporSandersfromanybody.
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[] earthskin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Goodthought.Ithinkhe'saheatshieldforthelooneypoliciesofotherrepubs.
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[] pjmcflur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsaRonPaulguyfrom07.Itotallyandunequivocallybelievethattobetrue.ThereisnowayinhellhewillbeelectedPresident.
Butthebaseloveshim.
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[] Gr1mreaper86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Votingforeitherofthemisabaddecision.PersonallyIthinkbothsidesarerunbythesamemonetarybackerssotheagendasendup
aboutthesameregardlessbutifI'mwrongandthecandidatesactuallymatterthenBernieSandersandRandPaularefarbetter
candidates.
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[] ninjew36 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkitwasjustsupposedtobeapublicitything,he'dsaystuff,drumupsomecash,booksales,andstoriesforhisnextbook,then
drop.Heneverexpectedtobeafrontrunnerandthoughthe'dbeabletodropoutnoproblemwheneverhewanted.
Thenhewasimmediatelyafrontrunnerandhisplanwenttohell.Nowhe'ssayingcrazierandcrazierthingshopinghisratingwilldrop
sohecanexittherace.
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[] Bananawamajama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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OrTrumpintendstodropoutbeforeIowaandendorsePatakiorKasichorsomeonewithnochanceintheprimarybutagoodshotat
thegeneralsotheydon'thavetofuckuptheirrepbeingcrazybutstillvetthenomination
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[] coldmtndew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlikehimbutevenifthiswasthetruthisstillpreferHillarytoalotoftheGOPcandidatesandBernieSanders
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[] ThisIsOurHillOfBeans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nah,morelikehe'sarepublicanwhowasplantedtherebymoderaterepublicanstospewcrazysothatwhenhedropsout,guyslike
rubioappearhalfsanetoundecidedvoters.
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[] quecaliente undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisistrueespeciallysincehe'sadmittedtobeingadonortodemocrats.
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[] superfudge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisclassicconspiracytheory.TheideathatsomanyAmericanslikethecrazythingsthatTrumpsaysandthatTrumphimself
panderstotheirignorantviewsisjusttoodifficultforsomepeopletoaccept.Forthosepeople,it'ssomehowamorepalatabletruthifit's
theresultofafewpeopleconspiringinsecrettounderminethesystem.
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[] ModernPoultry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idontgetthisreasoning.Dontthedemocratstaxtherichmore?
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[] gamedemon24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'ttotallyshockme.
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[] monkeysrule123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhestryingtolosetherepublicannominationsohecanrunasanindependentsothedemocratisguaranteedawin
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[] datorangeguy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TrumpismovingthewholepartytotherightwhileBernieismovingthewholepartyleft.Thiselectionissuchshit.
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I'llbuythis.Addinthefactthathe'sfriendswiththeClinton'sandhespokewithBillbeforedeclaringhiscandidacy,itseemspretty
likely.TheWashingtonPostevenranastoryaboutitawhilebackthatmostpeopleseemtohaveforgotten.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/billclintoncalleddonaldtrumpaheadofrepublicans2016launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8
3ae311e5b3ac8a79bc44e5e2_story.html
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[] Delaywaves undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean...mytakeawayfromthearticlewouldbethatClintonsawTrump'scandidacyasapotentialboontoHillary,sohefedhisego
bytellinghimsomenicestuff.It'sabitofajumpfromthatto"TheClintonsorchestratedTrump'sentirecampaign."
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Ohyeah,definitelyagreewithyou.Ifinditinterestingeitherway.
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[] The_Celtic_Chemist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Andtheplanisfailingintheworstwaypossiblesofar.
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[] TheFatMistake undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WithallthedumbshitTrumpsays,ifhedoesbecometherepublicancandidate,republicanshavenoonetoblamebutthemselves.
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Iamthinkinghejoinedtheraceduetosomeinsidejoke.Nowhe'sstuckinplaceandtryingtosaymoreandmoreridiculousthingsjust
sohecangetoutofit.Themorehesaysthemorehegetspopular.Idon'tthinkhewantstobackdownbutatthesametimehewants
toseehowfarhecango.
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[] GimmeShockTreatment undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howisthisminor?
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Becausewe'restillayearoutfromElections,andatthispoint..NotevenGodknowswhat'sgonnahappennext.
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Ifthatweretrue,Trumphasbeenplayingthelongconformany,manyyears
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[] Noodle36 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallyhefirststartedtheactaheadofthe2008campaign,thelasttimeHillarywassupposedtohavethenominationinthebag.
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Mytheoryisthathe'sbeenallowedintotherepublicancontestbecausehe'ssuchanutjobinordertomaketheotherrepublicanslook
betterbycomparison.
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[] 0rbitaldonkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sdoneagoodjob/s.
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[] Badsadff undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butheiswinninginthepollsamongrepublicans.Evenifthatweretrue,itistheirownfault.
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[] Milo_theHutt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisonesmyfavorite,hiscampaign,theshithesaysit'slikehe'sacharacteronsouthpark.He'sactinglikeastraightupparodyofa
republiccandidate.
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We'redoomed....
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[] MistaSmiles 31points
Toomuchegotobesacrificiallamb
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[] goldishblue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sperfectthough,it'sliketheythought:weneedanegotisticalmaniactodividetheparty,someonewithclosetonoscrupleswho
willdoanythingformediaattentionandwhowon'tmindpeopletalkingbadabouthim.
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[] FeedbackLoopAgain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msurethatbeingakingmaker(orqueenmakerinthiscase)woulddomuchtofeedhisego.
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[] jdbrew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itrulythinkthatheisunawareandsomeoneisplayinghim.They'vesurroundedhimwithadvisorsandstafferstoencouragehis
crazyideas,andIthinkBillClintonorchestrateditwithHilaryrecreatingtheRossPeroteffectthatsplittheRepublicanvotewithhe
waselectedin'92.ThisprimarilyduetothefactthatwiththeexceptionofReagantoBushSr.,thepresidencyalwaysswitches
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[] Simspidey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatswhatheWANTSyoutothinkyoupansy
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Thedemocratsareinforarudesurprise.
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[] PippyLongSausage 14points
Ireallydothinkthisisplausible.Theguyisanoperative.
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[] robbieclacy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcan'tactually,surelypeopledon'tactuallybelievethis?!?
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[] PippyLongSausage undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Let'sjustsay,ifitweretocomeoutinthenewstomorrow,iwouldn'tbesurprised.
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[] BlueHighwindz 1point
TrumpisnotaDemocratoraRepublican,hebelievesinonlygettinghimselfelected.Reallydoesn'tmakehimanydifferentthanany
otherpolitician,exceptforthedangerouslyinsaneoneslikeTedCruz.
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[] Kunta_KintGay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butdoyouthinkthereisarepublicequivalenttothat?
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[] captainsparrow11 0points
2016theyearallofus"racists"become"sexists"
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[] Nickyjha 685points
Heusedtopubliclybeademocrat,untillike2012ish.
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Source?
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ThenSkyrimcameout?
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[] throwaway4t4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asfarbackasthelate1980shepubliclyidentifiedasaRepublican(duringaninterviewwithOprahWinfreybeforethe1988
election).
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Beforethat.Didyouforgetabouthimpickingupthebirthertorchlongaftermostconservativeshadabandoneditin2011.WhichI
thinkaddsupporttoOPstheory.Hehassaidbatshitstuffthepasttwoelectioncycles,butnowthathe'ssaidhe'srunningfor
presidentthemediawon'tgetboredwithhisrediculousclaims.
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hey..youdowhatyouhavetodotogetelected..LookatHillary,hadtofindastatethatwouldallowhertobecomeasenator..oh
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look,she'sallofasuddenanewyorker.
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He'salsorunfortheRepublicannominationacoupleoftimes.
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[] JackalKing undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpdoesn'thaveaparty.Hesupportswhoevergiveshimattentionand/ormoney.
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[] Phyrexian_Possum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpdoesn'tneedmoney.
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[] intern_kitten undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heisn'tdoingverywellactually,hisincomeisn'tthathighandmostofhiswealthcomesfromassetswhichcanbe
volatile.
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[] Dr_P_Ness_ 891points
Hehaschangedhispartyaffiliationfivetimessincethe1980s.
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[] Captainmatt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Almostasmanytimesashiswife
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[] Luthery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyonegetsphases.
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SohereallyisaDemocrat.
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[] Skbrettbug 1157points
He'sprettymuchonlychangedhisaffiliationtothepartythatisn'tinofficejustsohecanalwayscomplainaboutthecurrent
governmentlol
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[] KommanderKrebs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sohe'sBrian?
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[] Rhinoceros_Party undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesthatmeanhe'llimmediatelyretirewhenhewinsorswitchtoindependent?
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[] Marvelina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...thatorhe'lloscilatebetweenrepubilcananddemocratataneverincreasingspeeduntilreallityshattersunder
thestrain.
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[] UnknownQTY undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknow,hewasprettychummywiththeClintonswhenBillwasinoffice.
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EveryoneisfriendswithBillthough.
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[] GetOffMyBus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesn'teveryone?
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[] Zephine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HerewasalsoaveryvocalsupporterofHillaryClinton
DonaldTrumpandBillClintonalsochattedonthephonebeforeTrumpannouncedhewasrunningforPresident.
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Yourfirstpointhassomemeaning,butthesecondoneisreallynobigdeal.Ibetmanyofthecandidatesbetween
partieshavespokentoeachotherinthelastyear.Trump/Clintonistheonlyconversationthatgetspublicized
becausetheyarethetwomostpopularcandidates.
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Right?BernieSandersandTedCruzarebothsenators,Ibetthey'veprobablyspokenbefore.Conspiracy!
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[] folltrood 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
waitwhat?Really?
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[] Darkbloomy 3points
AssomeonewhoplaysHearthstoneanddoesn'tliveintheUSAIthoughtyoumeantTrumpthestreameruntilIgoogledit...
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[] PookiSpooks 2points
TSMTrumpforpresident!
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[] corby315 291points
IthinkTrumpisworkingfortheRepublicans.
Ifyouthinkaboutit,themoreattentiononTrump,thelessattentiononalltheothercandidates.Thenwhenitcomestimeforthereal
candidatetherewillbelesstimetofocusonhim
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[] LouDraws undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Healsomakesthemlookmorecentralandreasonable,byshiftingthedefinitionofextremeconservativeinto'batshitinsane
billionaire'
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[] jbarinsd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mstartingtothinkthiswaytoo.Themoreextremeandrightwingheappears,themore"centrist"andreasonabletheother
conservativecandidateslooktomoderate/undecidedvoters.SamewithCarson.TheybothmakeRubio,Bushetallooklike
moderatesincomparison.Ithinkthisisastrategyforthegeneralelectionasopposedtotheprimaries.ThoughifTrumpwinsthe
nomination...whoopsie...that'snotgoingtobodewellfortheGOP.
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Peoplealwayssaythisbecausetheyhavetroublerememberinghowcampaigncyclesworkatall.Trumpisnotasideshow.Heis
whippingupatremendousamountofelectoratesupportandiscreatingamajorissueforthemainstreamcandidatesinthatthey
needto,attheveryleast,winhisendorsementtowintheprimary.
Therewillbe69monthsbetweentheselectionofthecandidateandtheelection.Youwillhearsomuchaboutbothcandidatesyou
willbesickofthemboth2monthsbeforetheelection.TrumpisnotdistractingfromanythingmeaningfulinNovemberof2015.
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[] Silentfartnado undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatexactlywhatIthought!
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IthinkTrumpisinitforname/brandrecognitionandvanity.Whenhegetsanapplauseline,hetakesitastepfurtherbecausehe
likesapplause.Idon'tthinkheparticularlycaresaboutpoliticsonewayoranother,butcertainlywouldn'tturndownpowerifhanded
tohim.Howitplaysout,whoknows?
IseeithelpingJeb.Hispopularityhasalreadymadeafewwouldbefrontrunnersdrop.Idon'tthinkTrumporCarsoncouldreally
winageneralelection.TheircandidacieswillprobablyplayoutlikeSantorum'sinthelastgoround.Republicansliketheircrazies
butcomehometoroostwiththeirMcCainsandRomneys.JebandKaisicharereallytheonlynotcompletelybatshitoptionsatthis
point.
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[] jabari74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sacrazymagnettheirrealcandidate(Bush/Rubio)won'thavetosayallthoseextremely"Republican"thingsduringthe
primaryandthuswon'thavetodealwiththemduringthemainelection.
WouldbeaballsymovethoughIcouldseeTrumpstartingasplantbutgivenhisratherstartlingsuccesschoosingtostayin.
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[] tylerbrainerd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ButTrumpistheonetearingapartalltheothercandidates.
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Goodthought
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[] jollyllama undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bingo.Also:
1)itprolongstheprimarysothatHillarycouldn'tgetanearlystartincampaigningagainstaRepublicanfrontrunner,and
2)tmakesalltheothercandidateslooklesscrazy.TedCruzandMarcoRubioareabsolutenutjobs,buttheylookdamn
reasonablenexttoTrump.
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Buttheyhavenorealcandidate.Whichistheonlyreasonhe'sdoingsowell.Peoplewouldratherhearhonestbullshitoverbullshit
bullshitatthispoint.
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Exceptthatthisistheexactantithesisofwhatthechallengingpartywants....
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[] EatsDirtWithPassion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybehe'sworkingfor...Himself!GASP
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[] TdotGdot undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somethingalongthoselines,Itotallyagree.
Itfeelssortoflike'softeningthepublic'fortherealRepublicancandidate.Trumpcomesinlikeamonster,thentherealcandidate
comesoutafterwardsandeveryoneexclaimshownice/normal/reasonablethenewpersonis.
Plus,Trumpgetstowriteabookabout'runningforpresident'andeveryoneinvolvedwins.ThereisabsolutelynowayTrump
actuallyendsuprunning.
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That'sbasicallywhathappenedwithRomney.Theresomanycraziesandreligiouspeoplescreaminginfrontofhimthatby
thetimetheprimaryrolledaroundthefactthathewasmormondidn'tevenphasethem.
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[] Restil undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpisworkingforhimselfandwillcontinuetorunaslongashekeepsgettingattention.HeraninthelastPresidentialelection
toobutdroppedoutquicklywhenhegotnomorepublicitythananyothercandidatewhowasn'tMittRomney.
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[] KoboldCommando undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes.Thisismypettheory.Ifyoulookatthereallyscarycandidates,likeJebBush,they'retheoneswhoarequietlysittinginthe
backgroundnotmakingtoomuchofafussandslippingthroughwithasfewscandalsaspossible.
Trumpisaperfectcounterpointtothisstrategy.Getabigblusterymaniacouttherethateveryonewillbeafraidofwinning,he'llget
allthepressandalltheattentionwhiletheotherguysslipbyundertheradar.Thencometheactualelection,hebacksdown,allthe
democratsbreatheasighofreliefanddon'tfeelpressuredtogovoteagainsthim,andallthehorribleshittheothercandidateshave
donegoesunderreported.
ThoughnowI'mkindofwonderingifthey'vedecidedthatTrumpmightactuallyhavealegitimateshot,sohe'stryingtobackdowna
bitwhileCarsonissteppingupthecrazygametooutcrazyhimandstealthespotlight.
Youknowshitlikethisgoeson,ifyou'vethoughtofsomepotentiallyclevermaneuverapartycouldtake,ahundredcommittees
haveprobablymetanddiscussedtheviabilityofthatexactthingalready,andtheperfusionoflobbyistcashmakesiteasyforthem
toundertakeevenseeminglygrandschemeslikethis.
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[] Procinctu undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.TheRNCbringsinaringertocleanup.ThenTrumpgetsintotheNoveltyTruckNutsbusinessfromallthegoodattentionhe
garneredamongsthicks.
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Wow,that'sactuallygenius.UnlessTrumpgoesrogueandtriestorun.
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[] bigfatgarce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahbuthewon'trun.Hegotwhathewanted(thepublicityandtheegoboost),ANDnowacandidatethathewouldhave
helpedgetelected.PLUStheRNCcanspreadarumourabouttheDNCusingTrumpasatroll(makingtheDNClookbad)!
It'ssmart,albeitmachiavellian.
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[] Serious_username undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actuallythatwouldmakeitworsefortherepublicancandidate.ThemediahasmilkedthenegativeaspectsofHilarythroughoutthe
PrimarysoIdoubtthereismuchnewinformationforthegeneral.
IfthereisasleepercandidateintheGOP,theywillhavetoendurethenegativepressandslursduringtheprimeelectionseason.It
ismuchbettertogettheworstoutearlysopeoplecanforget/youcanchangetheirmind
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TheproblemwiththeGOPisthattheprimarymurderstheircredibilityforageneral.Theyhavetopandertotheradicalright,
andmoderatevoterscan'tstomachthat.
MytheoryisthatTrumpisadistractioncreatedtokeepModerateAmerica'sattentionawayfromthepanderingthelegitimate
candidatesaredoingtothewingnuts.
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[] Baxterftw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PleasefortheloveofGodletRandPaulbethesleeper
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Becauseifweneedanythingit'sRonSwansoninrealpersonformatthehelm.
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[] ncquake24 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.Youwantthemediavettingdonequickandearlythatwaythepublichasforgottenaboutit/gottenoveritbythetimethe
gotothepolls.
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TrumpworksforTrump.
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[] hervethegnome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Can'tstumptheTrump
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Trumpislikepriceanchoring....hegetscrazierandcraziertomaketheothercandidateslookmoresane.
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[] cheddarfever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpdoesitforthelulz
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[] ErictheViking311 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoaplottwist.
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[] Cr3X1eUZ 11points
"Liberalplant".
SowasGeorgeW.Bush.
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[] SMORKIN_LABBIT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Scarytothinkthedividebetweentwogroupsissowidethatonesidefindstheopinionsoftheothersoabsurdtheymustbesatire.
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Butthatmusthavebackfiredbecausehegoteightyears.
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[] Ekolot 496points
Iagree.Heissayinganddoingcraziershiteverydaybecausehewantshissupporttowaversohehasanexcusetoendhiscampaign
andrunthirdparty.
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[] PepsiColaX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ortakethenominationthenthrowitandgiveittohillary
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Yousoundlikeacrippledmexicanorsomething,whydon'tyougobacktoyourmosque?
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IthinkhemightberunningtobreaktheGOP.Thereissomuchdissensionbetweenthedwindlingoldguardandnewteapartiers
thatifhegetsthenomthepartycouldsplit.OldSchoolrepublicansaremadthattherearenomoremoderatesandtheymightjump
ship.
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[] ScholasticYouf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldhedothatwhenhe'sfavoredtowintheRepublicanpartynomination?Seriously,didyouthinkforonefuckingsecond
beforeyoupostedthatshit?
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[] peaceful_zenful_life undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisjustproveshowmisinformedpeopleare.hemadeadealwithrepublicansifheweretowinthenominationtheywouldbackhim
aslongashedidn'trunthirdpartyifhedidn'twinthenomination.
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[] Dyolf_Knip undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onceitwasclearthatgoingfullretardwasnotonlyviable,butactuallyforcedtheother,legitcandidatestofollowsuit,thegoal
becametopushtheOvertonWindowsofaroverthatarandomselectionofinmatesfromanyasylumwasabetterchoicethanthe
leadingGOPpresidentialwannabes.Ofcourse,thatwastrueevenbeforeTrumpstarted,butIdigress...
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[] dopadelic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hedidsaycrazyoutrageousstufffromthestart.
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[] CartoonsAreForKids undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkhe'sworkingfortheDemocratParty.Trumpistooproudtoworkforthem.Ithinkhe'srunningwithnointentionof
winning.He'shavingagreattimestrokinghisegoanddoingcrazyshiteverywherehegoes.It'sagametohim.
It'sOckham'sRazor,theanswerwiththeleastassumptionsisoftenthebestanswer.DonaldTrumphasahistorywiththeClinton's,
yes,butthisbeingagameforhimwiththeaddedbonusofdestabilizingtheGOPismuchmorelikely.
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Ifyou'rejustgettingyourtrumpquotesfrom"journalists"they'reprobablyextremelyoutofcontext.Youshouldlookuptrumps
statementonthe"Muslimdatabase"isactuallythereporterwhosuggesteditandthentrumpredirectstohisotherpoliciesandthen
thereporterdoublesbackandaskstrumpifthatwouldbehispolicy.Trumpassumesthereporterisreferencingwhattrump
redirectedtoandagreed,butthereporterisactuallyinsinuatingthe"database".Muchofwhatisbeingsaidabouttrumpisspinby
liberaljournalistswhoseetrumpasathreattoHillaryandareactivelytryingtoturnoffpeopletohim.Heliterallycannotbebought,
he'salreadyrich.
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[] 6of1halfdozenofother undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Keepdrinkingthatcoolaid,yafuckingloon.
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[] loran1212 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'msorry,thereissimplynowaythatit'spuremediabiasthathasmadehimouttobesuchanutjob.Icanwatchhis
speeches,andhereallydoessaythethingsthatconstantlymakesthenews.Contextornot.
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Findonethingincontextthatthemediahasn'tspun
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[] BloodBride undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkhe'sjusttryingtoseehowmanypeoplewillstillvoteforyouifyousayordobatshitcrazythings.
Becauseifenoughpeoplevoteforhim,hecanthenexposetheelectionsystemasafarce,oratleastthatpeople'srighttovote
shouldbebasedonsomesemblanceofintelligence,orattheveryleastofall,passingamentalstabilitytest.
AndthenhewillbecomeEmperorofAmericanadexico,thelargestsingularislandnationintheworld.
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[] Kwylar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IIRCtheRepublicanpartyhadhimsignsomekindofagreementsayinghewouldnotrun3rdpartyifhedidnotgetthenomination.
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Ifhelosesthenominationthere'snopenaltytheycouldinflictonhimforrunningthirdparty.
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[] JtheNinja undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Likethatwouldstophimifhereallywantedtodoit.
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That'dbesad.Himtryingsohardtodestroyhissupport,butthedumbassesjustsupporthimhardernomatterwhathedoes.
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[] MG87 1point
Ihonestlydontthinkhewantstowinatthispoint.
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[] I_eat_your_feces 151points
Whywouldhewanttorunthirdparty?
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[] Radon222 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ToPerottheshitoutoftheelection.
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[] ALittleBirdyToldMe25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WhenyourunthirdpartyasarepublicanitsplitstherepublicanvotesandtypicallyademocratiselectedBUThedidsigna
thingaboutstayingloyaltotheRepublicanPartyandvowedhewon'tgothirdparty.
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Hedid?When?Reference?
Irememberoneofthefirstquestionsofthefirstdebatewaswhetherornothewouldrunasathirdpartycandidateifhe
didn'tgetthenominationandhesaidhewould.
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[] sharkbait_oohaha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Amonthorsoafterhesigneditatoneofhisspeeches.
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[] PM_Me_AssPhotos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rossperotshowed/demonstratedhowtheelectoralprocessintheUSisflawed.Duverger'slawandallthat.Trumpwouldbe
usinghisgameplantohelpClintonwinathirdterminthewhitehouseandthedemsathirdconsecutive.
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[] f0ru0l0rd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BecauseRossPerot.IE:splitthevotesforanairport
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[] bored_reddit_user 2points
KindoflikewhatNaderdid,exceptRepublican.
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KindoflikewhatRossPerotdid.
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[] Ekolot 743points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfheisreallyworkingfortheDemocratslikealotofpeopleincludingmyselfbelievethenrunningthirdpartywouldsplitthe
RepublicanvoteenoughtoguaranteetheDemsaneasyvictory.
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[] BleedingAssWound undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hecoulddomoredamagetotherepublicanpartybybeingtheirnominee,becausethenhe'dactuallyberepresenting
them.
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Thatcouldbackfirethough...millionsofAmericanscouldviewTrump'sthirdpartyrunasSUCHacorruptgifttoHillary
Clintonthattheyshowupatthepollsinrecordnumbersjusttovoteagainsther.
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ThatwouldhaveworkeduntilSanderscamealong....Nowhecan'tguaranteehisbuddyHillarywillgetthenomination.
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That'sexactlywhatRalphNaderdidin2000totaketheelectionawayfromAlGore,exceptthat(Idon'tthink)Nader
wastryingtotankGore'sbidforPresident.
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[] jokinghazard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Frank,Ijustgotacourtorder,itsaysyoucan'teatshitanymore.
dundunDUUUUNNNNN
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[] ReiNGE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
well,it'snotlikeyouuseyourpoopanyway,sowhynot?
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thatmakesnosensethough,Sandersisalreadysplittingtherepublicanvote.Thetypeof"republicans"thatsupport
trumparethefringe,andthey'revocalwhichiswhyyouhearfromthembutthey'renotenoughtogethimelected.Alot
ofrightleaningpeoplewhowouldconsiderthemselvesrepublicanareturnedoffbyhimandconsiderSandersabetter
choice.
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[] Njdevils11 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whywouldconservativeswhosupporttrump,votesanders?Themostleftcandidateintherace?
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Youclearlydidn'treadwhatIwrote.NoteveryonewithalittleRnexttotheirnamesupportsTrump
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I...Ididreadwhatyouwrote,Iwaslookingforclarification.YourpostmakesitsoundlikeifTrump
dropsout,manyofthosesupporterswouldgotoSanders.I'mtryingtounderstandyourlineof
reasoning.TrumpandSandersareprettyfarapartpolitically.
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IsaidifTrumpgetthenodtobetheGOPpresidentialprimaryyouraveragerunofthemill
republicanwillvoteforeithernobodyorsomeonelikeSandersoverTrump.Isaidhisfringe
supportersarenotenoughtogettrumpelectedtopresident
ThehighestI'veseenhimpollisinthelow30's,usuallyitscloserto25%.Thatmeansmost
votersareagainsthim(andarewillingtosupportanyone,evenBenCarson,iftheyaren't
Trump).
Reddit\medialovestoconfusemajoritieswithpluralities.
pluralities
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NotallRepublicansareconservative.SomeconservativeslikesomeofwhatBerniesupports,evenifthey
don'tfullyagreewithhim.Andfinally,notallEvangelicals/Protestants/Catholics/othermembersofthe
ReligiousRightarecompletelyconservativeinalloftheirbeliefs.
Backintheday,theReligiousRightandconservativesandsomeliberalswereopposedtogovernment
welfarebutnotallwelfare.Theideawasthattheydidn'ttrustthegovernmenttobefairwithtakingcareof
theneedy.Somehow,thisdislikeforgovernmentcontrolledwelfaremutatedintoa"fuckthepoor,no
welfareforyou"stance.
Imean,haveyougonetoachurchwhichhadafoodpantry?MostfoodpantrieswhereIlivearechurches.
TheBaptists,theCatholics,theMethodists,theEpiscopalians,andsomeotherdenominationsrunfood
pantriesinmycounty.That'sbasicallywelfare.
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Iagreewitheverythingyousaid,excepttheideathatasizableportionofTrump'ssupporterswouldgo
toSanders.I'mnottryingtobeconfrontational,Iwanttounderstandyourlineofreasoningalittle
better.
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[] NotKiddingJK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NoTrumpsupportersareevergoingtovoteforBernieSanders.Whatheistryingtotellyouis
thatsomeNonTrumpRepublicanswillvoteforSandersbecausetheydon'twantTrump.Trump
isaverypolarizingfigureandthereareRepublicanswhowouldvoteforhisopponentwhoever
thatmightbe.
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IhighlydoubtthatalargechunkofElDonaldodelTrumpo'ssupporterswillsupportKomrade
BernieSanders,justthatsome,manyatinyfraction,aresympathetictothelatter.Mostpeople
donotfitintooneneatstereotype.
tldrPeoplearedifferent.
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Buthesignedthatpaper!HonestlyIvetoldpeoplethistheoryandthatswhattheyrespondwith.Iholdthat"promise"
withasmuchcredenceasaU.S.contractwiththeIndians....
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[] Aizure undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'saverylikelypossibility.TedCruzgetsthenominationandtrumppullsaRalphNader,lettingthedemocratswin
becausehesplitstherepublicanvotesinhalf.
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[] tallerthanunicorngod undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ihopeyouseriouslydon'tbelievethat.
It'saninterestingtheorybutconsideringhowlonghe'sbeenanassholeIthinkit'sprettysafetojustsayhe'sinsane.
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[] lainzee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'manotheronethatfullysupportsthistheory.
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[] mpeskin 64points
IthoughtIwasonlyonewiththattheory,gladthatothershaveittoo.Makesmefeellesscrazy.
IfheendsupwinningRepublicanprimarieshe'lljustdosomethingsuperidioticbeforetheelectiontoloseitforthe
republicans.
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theproblemwiththatishecansuggestshuttingdownreligionsintheu.sandhispollnumbersgoupsowhatcan
hereallysay?
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[] PvtTimHall undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,butthosewerethewrongreligions.
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[] RettyD4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idoubtheiswillingtospend500MM1Btoswingademocraticvote.Therewouldhavetobeawholelotof
Democraticcorruptiongoingontoevenmakethatplausible.
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[] sinchichis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthoughtIwasonlyonewiththattheory,gladthatothershaveittoo
Republicancandidateshavealreadymadethisallegation.Youprobablyfirsthearditfromthem.
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[] stopcallingmepeter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forme,Ihaven'tbeenlisteningtorepublicansandIcameupwiththesametheory(evenpostedaboutita
weekago).It'sbecauseheissayinghewillrunindependent.
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HedidjusttheoppositewhentheRNCheadReincePriebusmadehimsignastatementsayinghe
wouldn't.Thisallhappenedawhileago.
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[] Falsequivalence undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,buthecouldalsoignorethat.It'snotlikethey'refundinghimforallhisfaultsheisn'tin
anyone'spockets(obviously,anyway)thanhisown.
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[] mpeskin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MaybeIdidandjustthoughtIcameupwithit.Highlyprobableactually.
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It'sabrilliantplanthough.
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[] Dracunos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mgladIcameupwithit
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Noway.EvenifheisworkingforHilaryonceheiscloseenoughtothewin,doyoureallythinkhewonttakethat
powerandstatus?Iguaranteethatifhehasachancetoreallywinhewilltakeit
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[] RareMajority undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatwouldyouratherdo:enjoyyourbillionsofdollars,gorgeouswomen,andextravagantlifeasa
powerfulbusinessman,ortakeonwhatmayverywellbethemoststressfuljobontheplanet,andcertainly
oneoftheoneswiththemostresponsibility,whileallofthetimebeingsubjectedtoconstantcriticismfrom
atleasthalfofthepopulation?Fuckbeingpresident,I'lltaketheyachtsandsupermodels.
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WhileiagreeithinkTrump'segoisbiggerthanthat.
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Ofcourse,ifheisworkingforthedemsdotheywanttohurttheGOPordestroyit?Havingathirdpartycome
alongandtakeawayalargechunkcouldcauseirreparabledamagetoanalreadyfalteringparty.Demscouldlock
up2016and2020,possiblyevenoneortwomore,bydestroyingtheGOPforgoodbeforeanewpartypulled
together.
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Idon'tfeellikethisislikelytobehonestrepublicanshavebeentrouncingdemocratsinsenateandhouse
electionsIwantthepartytodieasmuchasthenextpersonbutifeelliketheyareactuallyfairlystrongatm
andwillremainsoforsometime
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[] nomoredarkness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imayendupsuckedintoamaelstromofdownvotesforsayingitwe'llsee,butmyreadonAmerican
politicsisthatinbetweentheflamethrowerandthechainsaw,theRepublicanPartydoesn'treallyneedany
helptearingitselfasunder.
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[] deadbeareyes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sbecauseit'slargelyturnedintoa"whocanbemoreconservative"contestamongthemajor
frontrunners.Also,theamountofcandidatesrunningmakesitseemlikethey'rejustthrowingshitata
walltoseewhatwillstick.
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[] Caststarman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'titworkfortheWhigs?
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Can'tdisagreewiththat.Theyhaven'thadadecentpresidentialcandidatesince1980(notcounting
sittingpresidents,whoarealmostobviousa"decentcandidate"byvirtueofhavingbeeninoffice
alreadynotthatI'msayingthatpersonisagoodpresident,butistheobviouscandidate,barringa
partyrevolt).Andeachfouryearsseemtogetworse.Andasfaras'80goes,I'mnotsayingReagan
wasorwasnotagoodpresident,buthewasagoodcandidateatelectiontime.Pointbeing,theGOP
islosingfollowersrapidly.
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Ithinkit'sfunnythattheshithe'sdonealreadyisn'tconsideredsuperidioticbyalotofpeople.
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[] greebytime undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whydidyouspell"horrifying"as"funny"....?
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[] DJRoombaINTHEMIX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
seriously.Hejustmockedadisabledreporterafewdaysagobyflailinghisarmsaround
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[] bradx954 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwatchedthevideoandhedidnot.Itlookslikethemediajusttookaweirdshotofhimandportrayed
itthatway.
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Andthendenieditanddemandedanapology.
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[] Echleon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wherecanIfindavideoofthis?
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[] pwaves13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'llbehonest.Idon'tseetheissuehere.I'mnotsayinghe'srightfordoingthisofcourseit'sadick
move.Butpeopleareactinglikehe'sfuckingSatanfordoingthatwhenheandhisimageis
lampoonedandhetakessomuchflackallthetimebutnobodycares.Peopledoittohimallthetime.
Ablebodiedornotit'snotreallyrightyaknow.
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[] DJRoombaINTHEMIX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheonlyissueIseeisthatheisrunningforpresident.Youcan'tactlikeabigotedchildand
thinknothingwillcomeofitinthatkindofspotlight.
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[] mcmatt93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heisrunningtobethechiefdiplomatforanuclearsuperpower.Makingfunofadisabled
personistheoppositeofdiplomacy.
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Whatdoesnuclearweaponshavetodowithmockingadisabledperson?
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[] ShawDeez 3217points
Eitherthatorit'sallanelaborateprank,thatwillbefeaturedinhisupcomingTVrealityseries,"YougotTrumped!"
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nahit'shostedbyAshtonKutcherandnamedElect'd
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[] moonsout_goonsout undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Okayifthis,howeverunlikelyitmaybe,wasthecaseandTrumpbecamepresident,wouldhefaceanylegalrepercussionsifhe
wasjustlike..NahI'mgood.Didn'tresignoranything,justleft.
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AndTrumpisactuallyAshtonKutcherindisguise,andAshtonKutcherisactuallyBamMargeraindisguise,andthenitcomesout
thatAndyKaufmanisstillaliveandMargera,Kutcher,andTrumpareallcharactersofhis.
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[] qezler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Maybeheplannedthat,butwhenpeopleactuallystartedsupportinghimhewaslike"fuckit".
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[] c3534l undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That...IcanalmostbelieveTrumpwoulddothat.
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[] rsyay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpspeakstruth
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Thiswouldbeglorious!
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[] TangoZippo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldalsoexplainwhyhedoesn'tacceptdoesn'tacceptdonations.Ifhedid,he'dbesusceptibletofraudcharges.
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[] Johnny_Couger undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwanttobelievethattrumpissecretlyAndyKaufmanandit'sallbeenatrick.
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[] DaveMoTron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifitis,he'samadgeniusandit'saseeeeriouslylongcon.Thisguyhasbeenpubliclynutsfordecades
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[] CorbinD14 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Presidencyvictoryspeech,"America,youjustgotTRUUUUUMMPPPED!"
*Walkingcameraslidingshot
"Overtwoyears,51states,Icreatedthebiggestprankinhistory.Itwas'uuuggge"
"youwatchthefullseriesonNBConMonday9.30."
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[] DragonforceMaiden undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trumpeted
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[] Spanky_McJiggles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Trump'd*
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[] sammie287 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswouldbeanimpressiveprank,howmanypranksterscanclaimtohavegottenanentirenation?
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[] JeSuisCharlieMartel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whenifirstsawthattrumpwasrunningforpresident,iactuallythoughtitwasajokefromtheonionorsomething
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ThatwouldbeamazingifitwasalladocumentaryonracisminAmerica.Mygod.I'dbuyallofhisties.
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DonaldTrumpisaselfcentredtroll,sorichandpowerfulthathejustdoesn'tgiveashit.Ihighlydoubthe'sevenseriousabout
becomingPresidentandheprobablywon'twintheRepublicannomination.
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Hedefinitelywon'twintheGOPnom,evenifhewinsthevotethepartymostlikelywon'tnominatehim.
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[] PeopleofYouTube undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youwouldbesurprisedathowmuchsupporthehasandwhatpeoplewillvotefor.
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[] Nicodemius 1763points
IT'SJUSTAPRANKBRO,THERE'SACAMERA!
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[] whyme427 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butyoukilledmyson..
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[] Pissedforgreatness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
"Seriouslyyouguysdidn'tguessit??Thishatlookslikeatoddlerordereditfromcafepress"
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[] wrinkledlion undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereweresomanycamerasallalong!Howdidwenotnotice??
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[] 100metreDaschund undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CHOOCHOO!
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[] CavemanSelfie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Brojob!!!Brojob!!!CHOOOCHOOOO!
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[] ccshnitz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ravioli,Ravioli,what'sinthePocketoli?
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[] pakiman698 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
BROCHILLITSAJUSTAPRANK
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[] rabidkiwi13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ELECTIONPRANK[GONESEXUAL]
TRUMPLUMPS
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[] SuckOnDEEEEEZNuts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ravioliravioli,what'sinthepocketoli?
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CHOOCHOO!TRUMPJOB!TRUMPJOB!
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[] hairyerectus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
whatsinthepocketoli
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[] SomFX3 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ravioliravioli....
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[] Nicodemius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
What'sinthepocketoli?
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[] TheSamR 1034points
Electionprankgonewrong!!INTHENEWS!(socialexperiment)
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PresidentialSexualHillaryPrankElectionTrumpPrankGoneSexuaaaaaaaaaal!
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[] benshiffman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Clintonshatehim!
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[] MexAmerica undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
(INTHEHOOD)(INTHEFUCKINGGHETTO)(INDAPROJECTS)
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[] RockFourFour undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Immigrantshatehim!
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[] los_angeles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
InstructionsunclearTrumpstuckinWhiteHouse.
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[] Nicodemius 766points
GUNPULLED[GONESEXUAL]
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[] ImLivingLikeLarry undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AREYOUCRAZY?!AREYOUOUTOFYOURMOIND?!
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Goneseuxxxxxxual
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[] dirty_beans undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
areyoucrazy,areyououttayourmind!
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[] kickasserole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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YOU'LLNEVERGUESSWHOSTEPHENROO#ACTUALLY#IS!!
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[] Taperingbird0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GUNPULLED[GONESEXUAL][INTHEHOOD]
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[] sloansta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
KISSINGPRANK2015GONESEXUALGONEHOODGONEWRONGASSTITSBOOBSPRANKSHOODSEX
20152016TITS
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COMPILATION
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[] jrod61 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
REALLY!?
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[] nannerpuss74 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
becauseofTHEIMpliCATion.
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[] Guava_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkagunwastheonlythingpulled
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Thissoundslikeasicksadworldepisode
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[] RetardStrengthIsReal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WHITEDUDESCREAMINGRACIALSLANGTERMSON8MILE[GONEWRONG][SOCIALEXPERIMENT]
[GONESEXUAL(?)][GONEWRONGAGAIN!]
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[SOWRONG!SOFAST!]
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[] firedrake242 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
INDAHOOD$
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BRABRABRAISAIDNEIGHBORNOT[REDACTED]!
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[] DarkLordWonton undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/seventhworldanarchy
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[] TheLastFish 593points
GoodworkEthan,keepitup,proudofyou
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[] rolobrowntowntony undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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[] rolobrowntowntony undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwanttoseetrumpschub'n'tuck
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[] sandiskplayer34 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AHYOUOUTTAYOMOIND?
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[] BlackCaaaaaaaat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AssomeonenamedEthan,
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[] SniffyFish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FEEDINGTHEHOMELESS(GOOOOONESEXUUUUUUUAAAL)
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[] Joshlecky undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AtVeniceBeach.
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[] Sokkumboppaz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Greatmoves
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[] Ragequitr2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Papabless
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[] LachlantehGreat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ILOVETHISYOUTUBER!
H3H34life
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[] pack_merrr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Papabless
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[] TheSamR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AREYOUCRAZY?AREYOUOUTTAYAMIND?
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[] The_Power_Of_Seagull undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
violentcoughingfit
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[] Jewtropics undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GoddammitLarry!
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coughs
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[] Arkm7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Papabless
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[] Arkm7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Papabless
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[] CBNzTesla undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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REALLY!
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[] 1337_Degrees_Kelvin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThanksMr.Onthespectrum.
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[] llamaroadkill undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TRIGGERED
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Idon'tthinkthisoneholdsupverywell,andevenifitwastrue,itwouldn'thavetobe.NoneoftheRepublicansstandachanceagainst
Hillary.
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[] drsfmd 0points
Youcan'tpossiblybeserious.
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[] bumbleshirts undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TrumpistheonlyoneamongthemwhohasachanceofbeatingHillaryinthegeneral.CarsonandCruzaretoonutty,Rubioistoo
youngandsweaty,andBushisBush.
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What?
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[] EvolutionIsBullShit 1points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idisagree,mostcouldfairwellheadtohead.
BenCarsonthereligiousrightisapowerfulforce,buthealsoappealstomoderatesandoutsiderrepublicans
TedCruzalthoughweakonimmigration,heisasmalltimefavorite,prettymoderateandcouldattractinsiders
RubioprettymuchTedCruz
Carlyimpossibletospellnameabusinesswoman,sheappealstooutsidersandtakesthegendercardoffofthetableforHilary
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[] dicklemytick 1362points
Can'tstumptheTrump
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[] jspeed04 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HATETHETRUMP!
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[] k17060 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wewillovercomb
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ThisepisodeofYouCan'tStumpTheTrumpisbroughttoyoubyFallout4,anditssubtlesupportforDonaldTrump.
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Tru
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Everythingstumpshimthough...
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False.
AccordingtoTrump'slaw,youcan'tstumpthatwhichisunstumpable.
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[] A_Shaq_On_Titan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Forthepeasantswhohaven'twatchedthecan'tstumpthetrumpvideos
http://youtu.be/MKH6PAoUuD0
http://youtu.be/Nj7lZtAYXg
http://youtu.be/6UkkoCNe29Q
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[] beautifulsole 20points
Can'thumptheTrump.
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Can'tthumbtheTrump.
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Can'tTrumptheTrump
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Can'tpumpthestump.
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CanyoudumptheTrump?
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ButhowmanyhumpscanaTrumphump?
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I'malsoatleast5%sure4chanwasresponcibleforriggingearlypollstomakehimseemmoreelectable
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This....thisIbelieve.GoddamnitsometimesIhate4chan.WeneedtoretaliatewithaBernieUprising!
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[] BlankFrank23 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'malsoatleast5%sure4chanwasresponcibleforriggingearlypollstomakehimseemmoreelectable
I'm4%sure5chandidit
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Mostpoliticalpollsaredonebyphonesurveys.Sothat'sprettygoddamnimpressiveof4Chan.
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[] chico_magneto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idunnoman.Mywholefamilyseemstobuyintohimcompletely
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Youshouldgetanewfamily.
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[] chico_magneto undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Easiersaidthandone,myman
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[] TanithArmoured undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmeantheyweren'tvotingforDeezNutz?
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Whenhestartsdroppingthenword(shouldbesoon),we'llknowforsure.
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[] ablaaa 4points
onanofftopicbutnotquite,IactuallybelievethataverylargepartofTrump'sfacebookfollowersare4channers.
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[] CatDad69 437points
Thismakesnosense.Pollsaren'tdoneonlinebythevillainnamed4chan
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Thewholethingdoesn'tmakesense.Youreallythinksomeonewoulddothat?Justgoontheinternetandtelllies?
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[] kamoras undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellitmakes5%sense
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[] Gylth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sthemediathough,peopleseeonlinepollsandtheyactuallygetinfluenced.
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Youmeantheinfamoushacker4chan?
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[] RockStaholic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whoisthis4Chan?
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Tellmemore,whoisthishacker4chan?
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[] UnicornRocket undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoumeantheRedditgroup4chan???
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[] Doowstados undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nonono,he'stalkingaboutthatguyanonymous.The4chanisasocialmediasitethathesometimesgoesonfor
lulz.
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Whoisthis4chan?
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[] bricky08 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hemightbeasystemadministrator.
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[] mablesyrup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thiswillneverceasetomakemestoplaughing.
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[] MirorBCipher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LEEBINMEEMXDDDD
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[] Waex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lovethatguy
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[] LDM123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hisprofileappearstobethegrinchinamask.
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[] iMalinowski undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HEY!That'saveryrarepepe.It'sprettydankifyouaskme.
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Dankmemescan'tmeltelectoraldreams
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[] BrownCanadian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Straightfrom/r/leagueoflegends
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[] Sp3ctre7 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Areyouaprofessionalquotemaker?
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[] rj88631 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheysureashellmeltedJeb'selectoraldreams.
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[] BipartizanBelgrade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Currentlyat2016points=Trumpconfirmed
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OksotherearetwoversionsofthismemeIwillupvotenow...
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[] Killbunny90210 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
wew
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[] SeeOtter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lad
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[] Troggie42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WEW
L
A
D
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That'ssomegoodshitrightthere
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[] president_of_derp 134points
Ayy
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[] bmony1215 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lmao
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[] BallisticClown undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lmao?
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[] Esfer25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Macarena
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GOPyo
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[] MrGobelsack undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lmao
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[] DenimDave undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Zedong.
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[] Stringtone undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lmao
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Cornwall.
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[] Cuntflickt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Lmao
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[] omicronperseiB8 13points
WowXDDDDDDDNicemaymayamiriteXDDDDDDDsooriginal))))))))
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[] XDDDSOFUNNEH undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
xD!!!!
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[] BenThePieGuy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Usernamechecksout.
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L
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[] flykessel 6points
M
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[] xGr1m 1points
M
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[] Almainyny undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
A
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[] zylo256 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
A
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[] genevaconvention 0points
A
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[] bluewildscull undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
0
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[] Twofoursixtwenty 32points
om'sspaghetti.
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[] xX_420_Blz_iT_Xx 3points
Lmao
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[] shootthemovies 1points
ALLOFTHESEUSERNAMESAREGOLD.IAPPLAUDALLOFYOULOUDLY.
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[] IntHatBar 14points
Nuclearnonproliferationisn'taboutcontrollingbombs,it'saboutcontrollingtime.Ifyoudofindoutforsure,youwouldn'thaveasked.
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[] BudgieAttackSquadron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Snake?
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[] sweetrolljim undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatthefuckareyoueventalkingabout?
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[] drewbyshoobyW9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
1X1=2:)
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[] mrheh 8points
huh?
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[] onepointdownvoter 79points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Jewsprobablydohaveabsolutecontrolofhollywoodandpreventgoyimfromservingontheboardofdirectorsofanymassmedia
company.Itriedfindingagoyonwikipediatheotherdayandcouldn'tdoit.
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Hereyougo.
AlltheclaimsonthatwebsitearesourceablefromWikipedia.It'sevenmoredamningwhenyouseehowoverrepresentedJewsarein
thegovernment.
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Asajew,iwishedicontrolledhollywood.IthinkitsonlyaGROUPofafewjewswhodothis.Ihopeyournotblamingmillionsofpeople
whoaretryingtolivetheirlives.
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[] LightsTemplar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alwaysbeenmytakeonthis'conspiracy'.GrowingupinNYIhadmanyJewishfriends,andtheywereoverwhelminglyregular
Americanmiddleclass.Onceyougetintoelitecircles,however,wealthandpowerdofunnythingstopeopleandgroupsarehighly
selectiveandmistrustfulofoutsiders.It'sclearthatJewsareoverrepresentedinmanyhigherinstitutionsandfields,suchasIvy
Leaguestudents,Hollywood,andacademicfaculty.IfthisisaresultofsomeplotormotiveIseenoevidence,butIbelievesome
otherfactorsdoexplainthistrendofJewishconglomerationinpowerfulplaces.Variablessuchasahigheraverageintelligence
(somepeoplethrowafitoverthisassertion),intensecommunityties,andarelativelystrongerimpulsetowardsselfpreservationand
preservationofone'sownancestryandculture.Maybeevenanethnicinferiorityorsuperioritycomplex,Ithinkbothcouldbe
argued.
Again,mytake,likeyours,isthatJewsareoverwhelminglyaverage.Onlytheymayexhibitpeculiarinsulartrendsinhighplaces.
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[] JesteroftheApocalyps undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
butIbelievesomeotherfactorsdoexplainthistrendofJewishconglomerationinpowerfulplaces.
Ithinkit'sJewishmothers.Theydrivetheirkidsbatshitcrazytobesuccessful.Thenstilldrivethemcrazy.
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Ithinknaturalselectionplaysapart.
AshkenaziJewsarethesmartestethnicityonaverage,Ibelieve,manyofthemqualifyforgeniuslevel.
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AshkenaziJewsarethesmartestethnicityonaverage,Ibelieve,manyofthemqualifyforgeniuslevel
intelligence.
Ican'tbelieveI'vejustreadthis.
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Itisacommonlydiscussedphenomenon.YoucanhaveacursoryglanceatWikipedia.
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Iwill.ButbeforeIdo,justknowyou'rearguinginfavorofracialsupremacy.
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Idonotcareabouttheseaccusationsfromapersonwhodismissesphenomenabecausethey
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Thatsfair,sortof.
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Waitwhatthehellisagoy?
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gentile
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Ifyoudon'tknowthenit'sasafebetthatyouare.
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[] TentativeAnswer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
goyim
IjustgoogleditIthinkit'sanonjeworanonjewnation.
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[] Bellyzard2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellasaJewIfeelprettyleftoutthen.Whycan'tImakemoviestoo?:(
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DidyougiveawayyourbagofJewgold?
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Ugh.Itisn'tALLjewsthatgetHollywoodpower.Justlikenotallwhiteguysareatthetopoftheeconomicheap.Thetopoftheheap
justhappenstosuspiciouslybeabunchofwhiteguys.
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[] Bellyzard2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenwhyclassifythemas"TheJews"?Allitdoesisclassifyaethnicity/religionbasedonafewpeopleandbreedshatred
towardsmillionsbasedonaminority.Andwhite/Jewish/whateverpeoplehavingmoneyorpowermostoftenisn'taconspiracy
butisbasedaroundthehistoryofdifferentracesandtheirsocioeconomicbackround
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Oh.Neverthoughtofitlikethat.Ialwaysfigured"TheJews"wasreferringtosomecabalofindustryheads.Yea,if
peoplearesaying"TheJewscontrolHollywood"asineveryjewishpersonhasavotingstakeinmovieproduction,that
isprettysilly.
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[] josh1199 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahistheresomesortofmeetingthatImissedorsomething?
LiketheJewishCongresstoruletheworld,withbiscuitsandrefreshmentsafterwards?
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Bagelsandloxyoufilthycasual
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[] josh1199 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sprobablywhyIdidn'tgetinvited.
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[] Superfluous_Sirrah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...Areyouactuallyserious?
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Youmustnothavetriedveryhard.https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/aboutdisney/leadership/boardofdirectors
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[] onepointdownvoter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heyit'soneoftheguysthatpopsupintoeverythreadthatmentionsgoys,israel,and/orjews.Isn'tMegaphoneagreatpieceof
software?Thenewversionapparentlyhasover8,000activeusersasofearlierthisyear.
3goysontheWDCboard.
1)SusanArnold,operatingexecutiveofTheCarlyleGroup.
CarlyleGroup:
GlennA.Youngkin
DavidM.Rubenstein
DanielA.D'Aniello
Whatdotheyallhaveincommon?
2)JohnS.Chen,knownforBlackBerryandSybase.
You'vegotmehere,aCanadiantoptierCEOwithinsaneconnectionswithChina.DefinitelyAsian.Definitelyselfmade.
3)OrinC.Smith*
*ElectedIndependentLeadDirectorasofMarch13,2012..Doesn'thavevotingrights.Wouldyouimaginethat?
Namingone(Asian)goyononeboardofacompanyfoundedbyoneoftheworldsmostfamousantisemeticpeopleinhistorymust
provethati'mallbutcorrect.
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Idon'tunderstandhowyouhavesomanydownvotes.
Jewsarelike,lessthan1%oftheworldpopulationand(itwouldappear)are99%ofthetopbrassinHollywood.
Howunbalanceddoesithavetogetbeforewecanadmitthereisapatternhere.
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IthinkthatthepatternhereisJewsareforcedbypopularopinionintolessattractiveandglamorouspositionsandthen
massivelyimprovethepositions.
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[] haberstachery undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mrelatedbymarriagetotopbrassjewsinHollywood.Idonotbelieveitisaconspiracy.Theyjustnetworkedintothat
realmandthencircledthewagons.ThetwotopbrassIknowlosttheirveryverytopbrasspositionsduetopoor
performance.Thentheyjustmovedintoothermediaroles.Andlaterclimbedtheirwaybackuptotopbrasspositions.
Bottomlinetheycircledthewagonsandnooneisgettingin.
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Thisisaninterestingarticle.,Isuggestyoureadit.
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[] esmith4321 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknow,youdon'tneed"Megaphone"orwhatevertheJewsareanargumentativepeople.
Welookforthesepseudoconfrontations.Aconspiracytheorythreadsortedbycontroversial?Ofcourseacomment
pertainingtoJewscomesoutontop!(Thoughyou'dbeinterested,I'msure,inknowingthatmanyofthe"Jews"thattendtobe
listedinthesethingsaren'tconsideredhallachicallyJewishbyJudaicreligiouslaw).
Also,don'tassumethatJewswillnecessarilyrespondnegativetothiskindofattitude...Infact,Iupvotedtheparentcomment
todrawattentiontothisverysortofprejudice.
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Whatanidiotyouare.You'retellingmethatblackguyisJewish?D'AnielloisItalian.I'mnotgoingtobotherlookingupthe
otherssinceyou'lljustmovethegoalpostsandclaimthey'rezionistsorhaveJewishfriendsorsomething.
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You'retellingmethatblackguyisJewish?
BlackpeoplecanbeJewish.
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[] mazbrakin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
claimthey'rezionistsorhaveJewishfriendsorsomething
Worse,they'recircumcised!
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TheyalsocontrolIsrael.
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[] wowdisco 24points
Proof:AdamSandler
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[] Sporkosophy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItdoesexplainAdamSandler.
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http://www.theonion.com/article/localjewfeelsleftoutofworldwidejewishconsp809
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[] onepointdownvoter 17points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Nussbaumisn'tafullJewthough,hemarriedagoysoheloststatusasintermarriageismandatedinIsrael.
PoorNussbaum.Ialmostfeelsorryforhim.
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[] Zenarchist undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Uhhhhh.That'snottrueatall.
Source:MyJewishbrothermarriedaBuddhist(fromThailand)inIsrael.IsstillconsideredaJew(although,hischildren
wouldn'tbeautomatically)
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Henevermarriedanyone.
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[] onepointdownvoter 13points
http://davidduke.com/dnatestingnecessaryisraelimarriagelawsexplainedrabbi/
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[] EvolutionIsBullShit 9points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DavidDuke
Lizardalienguy!
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[] FULLM3TALBITCH 10points
Ithinkthat'sDavidIcke,DavidDukeistheKKKguy.
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[] noworthyicon 34points
9/11beingafalseflagattackinordertoadvancetheagendaofwarinthemiddleeast.
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Morethanjustwar.Theownerofthebuildingscollectedahugeinsurancepaymentongoldinthebasementthatsomehowvaporized.
Plus,haveyounoticedthatthefedsaretryingtoputupcheckpointsintheUS?Before9/11,thatwasthoroughlylinkedwithnazi
germanyinthepublicmind.
Allanyoneneedstodoislookuptheburningtemperatureofjetfuelversusthecompromisedpointofsteel,realizethatthesewerethe
onlyskyscraperstoallegedlyfallfromafireinallofhumanhistory,andthenwonderhowtheycouldfallperfectlystraightdown.
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[] noworthyicon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowallaboutLarrySilversteinthatslimybastard.Hewouldhavebreakfasteverydayonthetopfloorofoneofthetowers,not
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9/11though,andhiskidsnevershowedup.Ican'tspeaktothecheckpoints,I'veheardaboutthis,butIdon'tliveintheUSsoI
haven'tseenitfirsthand.
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It'smostlyatairports,maybeyou'veheardabouttheTSA.Howdoyouknowaboutlarry?
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[] noworthyicon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YeahIknowtheTSA,Iknowhowtheyhaven'tcaughtasingleterroristsincetheirinception.
I'velookedinto9/11,theofficialstoryneversatrightwithme,soIstarteddiggingintoit.Learntallaboutgoodol'Larry,
poolsofmoltensteelatthebaseofthetowers,thepassportofoneofthehighjackerssomehowsurvivedtheimpact
whentheblackboxapparentlydidnot,tower7fallingatfreefallspeedsdespitenotgettinghitbyaplanedueto'fires',
nottomentionalltheshadybusinessatthePentagon.
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[] ultronisright undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
K.
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I
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[] Spooky_Ghost_AMA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jetfuelcan'tmeltdankmemes.
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Wonderfulcontribution.
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[] wowdisco 16points
I'dlikethistobetruejustsothatfuckingArabradicalsaredemoralizedknowingthattheirbiggestachievementwasactuallyan
American's.
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WhichArabrebels?They'remostlyUSfunded.ISISarethesupposed"moderate"rebelstheUSwasfundinginSyriabackin2011.
ISIS=TheFreeSyrianArmy.
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[] wowdisco undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoISISisaUSproduct?Fuck,dontthesearabsknowhowtocreatesomethingthemselves?
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I'mconvinced.Watchthebeheadingvideos,I'malmostcertaintheyarefake.I'vewatchedeveryone,unedited.Alsothe
timingofthememergingisprettydamnconvenientfortheUSandotherWesternnationstointerveneinSyria.It'sall
aboutSyriaandoverthrowingtheirgovernmentatthemoment.
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SoconvenientwehadtowaituntilParisgothitbyahorrificattacktointervene?
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Dude,they'vebeenfundingthewarinSyriaforyearsnow.
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AreyouAmerican?
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[] DrMagicson 423points
ShiaLebouffisn'treal.
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[] samsquanch42069 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
DONTSAYTHAT.
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[] cjh93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'sreallyLouisStevens.
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Iknowhisrattailisn'treal.Itcan'tbe.
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Thefactisthatheisn'tsane,andadangertosociety.
There'snojokehere.He'dbelockedupifhewasn'tfamousandconnected.
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[] kegdr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thenwhenenoughpeoplebelieve,SHIASURPRISE!
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[] newstartled undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwish
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Youknow,Ihavealwayskindofthoughtthat.Everyfiveyearsorso,Ihearmentionof"ShiaLebouff."Nextfiveyears.....silence.
Then...ShiabLebouff.Then....gone.Andsoforth.Notencouragingofabeliefthatheisreal.Maybeheislivingfanfic.
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[] xyz66 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theactualcannibal?
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HowIsShiaRealIfLebouffIsn'tReal
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[] Blake7567 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckthisthreadisgarbage.
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HowCanOurShia'sBeRealIfOurLebouff'sAren'tReal?
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Where'stheLebouff?
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[] definitelylegitlol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HeisinfactactuallyLouisStevens.
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[] Tired_Thumb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Canyougiveevidence?Longformbirthcertificate.
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Thisisanactualconspiracy.
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[] thegeocash undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
fromanaskredditthreadtheotherday(sorryididn'tsavetheuser)
ShiaLaBeouf.
Backin2001,actorLouisStevenswasjustanupandcomingchildstarontheDisneyChannel.Itwasmanufacturedstardom(ofthe
sortthatwe'veseenfromentitieslikeBritneySpearsorJustinTimberlake),butithadthepotentialtogoalongway.Stevens,however,
hadotherideas,soheinventedthepersonaof"ShiaLeBeouf."Hechosethenamebecauseitmeans"praisegodforthebeef"inthe
originalGaulish,andhisstatedintentionwiththecharacterwastohaveitbeacaricatureoffame(withmeator"thebeef"beinga
representationofbothwealthandinfluence).
Otheractorshavedonesimilarthings,ofcourse.EveryoneisfamiliarwithSachaBarenCohen's"AliG"or"Borat,"forinstance,and
surprisinglyfewpeoplerealizethat"LarrytheCableGuy"isacharacterplayedbyDanielWhitney(whodevelopedthefakeSouthern
accentheusesbymeshingtheGeorgianandTexanaccentsofhiscollegeroommates).Thethingis,there'sstillplentyofavailable
evidenceforthosefolks'realidentities.WhenStevenscreatedShiaLeBeouf,however,hewentasfarastohire"reputationeditors"
andpublicimageconsultantstoeraseanyevidenceofwhohereallyis.Infact,ifyouweretoresearch"LouisStevens"nowadays,
you'dactuallyfindreferencestohimbeingacharacterplayedbyShiaLeBeouf.
It'sanincrediblysubtlepieceofmetacommentary,I'msureyou'llagree.
Anyway,inrecentyears,theInternethashelpedkeep"ShiaLeBeouf"aliveinwaysthatStevenscouldn'thavepredicted.Whileit'strue
thathehasbeencreditedasthecharacterineverythinghehasdonesinceadoptingthepseudonym,thevastamountofmedia
dedicatedtothefabricatedentityhasdonefar,farmore.Forexample,manypeopleliketoreferencethesongaboutShiaLeBeouf,
sungbyRobCantor,inwhichastandarddayinthefictionalactor'slifeisdetailed,ortheinfamous"Justdoit!"clipthatwentviralearlier
thisyear.
Stevenshasrecentlystatedthathemightretirethecharactersoon,ofcourse,butfornow...thepeoplewhorealizethat"ShiaLeBeouf"
isaliecreatedbyanactor(andexpandedbytheInternet)areinthesignificantminority."
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OMG...Iwasright!
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[] greebytime undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisishilarious.Bytheway,apparentlyLouisStevensisthenameoftheCHARACTERheusedtoplayonDisney:
HeiswellknownforplayingLouisStevensonthepopularDisneyChannelseriesEvenStevens(1999)
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[] JiggyProdigy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thatsthejoke.jpg
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[] averynewuser undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheuserisRamsesThePidgeon,whichisalittleimportantinthiscase.
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[] colovick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howso?
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[] aperson1729 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellI'veseenthenamebeforealot.Hedoesalotofreallygoodstories.Ithinkhemaybeanauthororsomethingin
reallife(thoughImaybegettinghimconfusedwithsomebodyelse).
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[] shellsamurai undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ShiaLaBeoufdidthe"justdoit"videobecauseheknewitwouldbecomeInternetfamousandthuswouldgainhimtonsoffree
advertising.
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Hewasdoingweirdshitandgettingattentionforitlongbeforethatvideo
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Heactuallyisn't.
It'sbasicallyacharacter.
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IliketopretendTheCrystalSkullisntreal
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[] Sibuna25 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'seasiertowatchifyoujustimaginethewholethingisaboutShiaLeButtsbeingagreaserandarandomseriesofshithappensto
himratherthanwatchingitasanIndiaJonesmovie.
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[] baudelairean undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itisabaddreameveryonehadtogetheronefatefulsummer.
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[] Orlitoq undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YouliketopretendTheWhatisn'treal?
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[] discountwilderbeast 73points
IkeepmyCrystalSkullinthefridgewhereitbelongs.
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[] LazyTheSloth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AllCrystalskullsshouldbefrozenlesstheywakeanddoomusall.
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WhoputsVodkainthefridge?
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[] discountwilderbeast undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youcanrefrigerateitsoyoucandrinkitcoolwithoutice.Protipthough:whenmakinganycocktailwithaliquor,besure
it'sroomtemperaturebecausetheiceyoushakeorstiritwithwillmelt,dilutingthedrinkandbringingoutmoreflavor.
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Ishouldhavebeenmorespecific...Ihavealwayskeptit(dependingonthetype)atroomtemporinthefreezer.
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Ialwayswantedtotryit.Isasgoodasitiscoollooking?
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[] BigUptokes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sshitvodka.Notworththepriceofthebottle.
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Thebottleistheonlyreasontogetithonestly.
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Iwaswaitingforsomeonetobringupthevodka.I'vehonestlyneverhadit.Thenagain,aslongasvodkadoesn'ttaste
likejetfuel,it'sgenerallyokay.IsticktoKetelOne.
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It'sharsh.Itissomestrongstuff.
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Notevenanukecouldgetitthere!
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Funny,myDadalwayssaidthataboutmyprudishmotheraswell.
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Thenhowdidtheyconceiveyou?Wasthereaneruptionortsunamithattriggeredsuchanevent?
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Goodidea.Noonewilllookforshittymoviesinthefridge.
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[] discountwilderbeast 91points
Butsadlyit'stotallysafefromnuclearattack
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Yeahsurvivinganuclearattackinfridgeisridiculousright?Like,theoriginalmovieswouldneverhavesomething
socrazy.Canyouimagineiftheyhadsomeonepullastillbeatingheartfromadude'schestorifsomemagical
boxmeltedpeopleoriftheytalkedtoaghost?Thatwouldbesostupid!
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Isn'tthatthemoviefranchisethathadtheherocrossanoceanwhileclingingtothebackofasubmarine?
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Youcanpulltheheartoutofthingsaandtheywillstillbestforashortamountoftime.
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It'sprettyhardtoreachintoaperson'schestwithoutcuttingitopenwithyourbarehandanddoit
though.
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Thesupernaturalismoreprobablethannukingafridge
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They'rebothimpossible,sothey'rebothequallyimprobable.
Ifitmakesyoufeelbetter,youcanimaginethathesurvivedinthefridgeviasomesupernatural
means.
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[] iHaveACatDog 9points
9/11
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Iwannasaythatimarationalhumanthatbelievesthis.It'sjusttoobviousthatAmericaisrunbybusinesses.9/11beingplannedisonly
shortlyastretch
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[] highlander1221 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Knewsomeonewouldpostthisresponse.AlsoknewitwouldgetdownvotedwhichiswhyIdidn't.
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[] Tree_of_Meats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ikindofwanttogofaroutthereandwonderifauthoritiesdidn'thidesomethingabouttheSandyHookshootings,justtogettheinterest
ofnuts,discreditingbyassociationpeoplewhoaren'tonboardwiththeparticularimplementationofguncontrolpushedafterit.Sure,a
foldingstockmightmakealongguneasiertoconceal,buttheAR7iseveneasier.Andhandgunsareeveneasierthanthat.Alotofit
isdecentstuff,butthewaythelawhandleslonggunsisjustalittlestupid.
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Forthosecominglate:TLDRahalfassedhypothesismadeinthemomentthatIwouldhavenotroublebelieving.
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Thexmastreethingseemsoddtome.
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Geez,theproguncontrolpeoplewhopulledoffthiselaborateconspiracyreallydidn'tgetmuchinreturn.
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Iwasthinkingthesamething
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Ehh.Itwasdefinitelygreatpublicitythatcertainadvocatesmayhaveusedtorideoverlittlehangups.Ifallittakeswasmystifying
theguythecopssupposedlyrandowninthewoodsgivesyoutheabilitytomakepeopleignorethosewithnitpickyobjectionsto
yourbill,whynottryit?Whatistheretolose?Didanyofficialorganization?Probablynot.Some/b/anonwantingtotrollpeoplewho
knowhowtousegunsorevenoneinvestigatorwithanagenda?muchmoreplausible.Isthemostplausiblestorythatpeople
pickeditupontheirown?absolutely.IwillsayIlostfocusoftheactualquestion,butgivensocietyatthemoment,Iwould
absolutelybelieveitifgivenenoughevidencesupportingtheidea.
Bynipickyobjections,Idon'tmeanthingslikemagazinesizeorbackgroundchecksorthelike.Imeanlikewhytheyevencarewhat
kindofgripalonggunhas,orhowfoldingstocksinadditionto,say,apistolgripareillegalbecauseafoldingstockmakesiteasier
toconceal,buttheAR7isjustfine,asarehandguns.Andthenitdoesn'tevenmatteraslongasyourgunsandmagazinesarejust
grandfatheredintothesystem.WTF,guncontrollegislators?
Also,I'vejustcomefrom/r/flatearth,soevensomethingunlikelyseemsplausibleinthefaceofaflatearth.I'vealsometSandy
HooktruthersinCT.Myexperiencehasbeenthattheydidn'tcomeupwiththisstuff,they'reparrotingsomeoneelse...anddidn'tI
sayIwantedto"gofaroutthere"?
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theARplatformistheonlygunthatcanbe'effectively'legislated.Sotheydothebesttheycanwithwhattheygot.
Individualownershipofsemiautomatichandgunsforselfprotectionwillnotgoaway,thiswouldrequirethesupremecourtto
overturnMiller(1939)attheleast.Ijustdonotseethishappeninganytimesoon.
Shotgunstheyareasamericanasapplepieandbaseball.Eventhemostrabidguncontrolzealotcannotthinkthathunting
isgoingaway,andaslongasitisaround,theshotgunwillbethere.(The870reached10millionsoldin2009,onemodelof
gun,fromonemanufacture.)
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Handgunsalreadyhaveahigheragetobeabletopurchasethanalonggun(21yrsv18),butIwouldalsoliketosee
perhapsmorethoroughchecksforthem,and/orextraclassesonproperhandlingandstorage,somethingsomegun
ownersunfortunatelydon'tquiteget.It'sadangerousissuewithlongguns,butmoredangerousstillwithhandguns.
IknewaguywhoownedanAK47(about90%sure,theother10%possibilityisanAR15,butI'mprettysuretheonly
ARheownedwastheAR7)withafoldingparaframestockandpistolgrip.HelivedinCT,wherethatisclassifiedasan
assaultweapon,andthuscouldnotbeboughtorsold.Hecouldhavesolditinstateifonlyoneofthosetwoitemswere
notpresent.GivenanAK47withapistolgripandfoldingstockvsanAK47withjustafoldingstock,anyschoolshooter
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couldshootthesamenumberofkids.Anybankrobberwouldstillhaveahardtimerobbingabankbecausethey'dstill
havetroublehidingituntiltheygotinside.Iseenoreasontobangunsbecauseofsuchsillyattributesotherthanto
attempttothemasseswhohavenevertouchedagunbeforebecauseitiseasierthaneducatingeveryoneaboutwhat
actuallymakesagundangerous.
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9/11conspiracytheoristsarehiredbyMuslimspecialinterestgroups.
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[] confuzed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheBranchDavidiansdidnotsetthemselvesonfireandthechildabusechargeswerefake.
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[] dantemp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fifaispurposelydenyingvideoreplaysfortherefereesinordertohaveanexcusetofixmatchesandblameitonhumanerror.
Thegranddaddyofallconspiracyrotshield(theevilJews)controllingtheworld,probablyhassomemerittoit.Beforeinternet
connectingtheworldmanipulatingmarketswasn'tveryhardandtheguysprintingthemoneyhadeverymeantodoitandprobablydid
italot.Now,"controllingtheworld"maybeabitofanexaggeration,probablymanyotherpeopledidalotofsimilarshit.Oneofthe
problemsofthetoday'sworldisthatmostleadersareoldpeoplethatbuildcharacterinthosedaysandarestilltryingtousetheold
tricks.Thereisnotmuchmoreotherexplanationswhy"lobbying"isstillathing.
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ShitIthoughtyouweretalkingaboutthevideogame
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Idunnoaboutthat.However,IamquitesurethatSeppBlatter'srecentstayinthehospitalwastheanxietyofwatchinghiscriminal
empirefallapartandtheveryrealpossibilityofgoingtoprison.
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[] ozzymustaine undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TheElectricCar
Foryearsconspiracytheoristsclaimedthatautoandoilcompanieswereintentionallykeepingelectriccarsfromhittingthemarket
despitethefactthattheyhadalreadybeenproducedandtherewasmuchdemand.ThehitdocumentaryWhoKilledtheElectricCar?
provedjustthat.
ThefilmdetailedhowGeneralMotorshadcreatedanelectriccaronlytotakeallthecarsbackandstopallproductionwiththehelpof
oilcompaniesandthegovernment.Afterdecadesofstalling,independentautomanufacturerTeslaMotorshasbroughtbackproduction
ofelectriccars.
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[] JustAnOrdinaryBloke undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,itisallamatteroftechnology.
TheEV1usedleadacidcarbatteries,whichwerehorrendouslyheavyanddangerous.That'swhyitwasneverpractical.
Theneweraofecars(likeTeslaandNissanLeaf)arethedirectresultofthedevelopmentofLiionbatteriesthatdon'thavethose
limitations.
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[] theyellowjester undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tbestupid,weallknowitwastheStonecuttersthatstoppedtheelectriccar.TheyalsomadeSteveGuttenburgastar.
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[] Toast42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TILTeslamadethePrius.
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[] Charybdisilver undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wouldn'tasmarterchoicehavebeentojustmskereallyshittyelectriccarstomakepeoplethinkthatthatwasallthetechnologycould
offer,andthenthey'dswitchback.
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[] TanktopModul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThiswouldbeplausibleifthewholeworldwasAmerica,butthatisnotthecase.GMdoesnothavecontrolovertheotherbigcar
manufacturersinEuropeorAsia.Thereasonwhythemanufacturersdidn'tstartresearchingseriouslyuntilrecentlyismuchsimpler:
Theydidn'thaveareasonto.Whybuildelectriccarsifpeoplearecontentwiththeexistingtechnology?Peopledidn'tcareorknow
aboutglobalwarmingdecadesago.Fuelwascheap.Whycare?Allthathasbeenchanginginthelastfewyears.Alsodevelopingthe
necessarytechnologyisahugeundertaking,withquestionablechanceofsuccess.
Onebigreasonfordevelopingtheelectriccarisapoliticalone:independencefromoilexports.InAmericapeoplemaynotthinkabout
thisasmuchbecausetheiroilmainlycomesfromdomesticsourcesorCanada,butinEuropeabigchunkoftheoilgetsimportedfrom
Russia,NorthAfricaandArabia.Thegovernmentsheredon'twanttobetoodependantonthesecountries.ThisiswhytheEU
subsidizesthedevelopment.
AndforTesla:Again,theworldisnotAmerica.AlloftheGermanmanufacturershavebeendevelopingelectriccarsforawhilenow,
andI'msureit'snotdifferentwiththeotherEuropeanorAsianmanufacturers.TeslaismerelytakingtheAmericanmarket,andthey're
reallygoodatmarketing.Redditisreallyeatingitup.
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It'sveryweirdthatnocompanythoughttobringelectriccarstomarketlikeTesladid.Iunderstandthattryingtoreachthelowend
marketcouldbemoredifficult,butwhydidn'tanyonetrytotapthehighendlikeTeslayearsago?
I'massumingthatit'sbecauseexecutiveslookatshorttermrewards,butthatkindofpointsouttheglaringinabilityoflargecorporations
todoanythingforlongtermrewards.
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Therewasaguywhoinventedacarthatcouldrunoffwater.Ithadaninternalelectrolysissystemtoconvertthewaterintohydrogento
useasapowersource.Oilcompaniessuedhimintobankruptcyincrapfalseadvertisinglawsuit.Theyclaimedthatitwasn'tacarthat
ranoffwater,sinceitwasanhydrogenelectriccar.Anywaysoonaftertheguywaspoisoned,hiscarandequipmentconfiscatedbythe
government,andhislabburneddown.Otherwaterruncarswerepreventedfrombeingproducedforbogusreasons.
http://henrymakow.com/2013/11/IlluminatiSuppressWaterPoweredCars.html
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Whatidon'tunderstand,whyisthereademandforelectriccarsamongsttheyoungergen?
Dopeoplenotrealizethatmakingtheelectirivty/batteryislesseffecientthanstraightfromthepetroleum?Alsopetroleumcarsdon't
needrecharging,etc.
Imeanwithelectriccarsyouareburningpetroleumtomakeelectricitywhilewithpetroleumcarsyouarenotwastingenergyinthat
secondstepofmakingelectrivty.
IsimplydonotunderstandtheappealofTesla/electriccars.
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I'mnottooreaduponthesubject,buthaveheardofastoryofapersoninventingtheelectriccarengineveryearlyon(40s?50s?)and
bringingittosomesortofexpo/show.Thethingis,Chryslerhadsomerepresentativespresentatthatshowandtheyboughthis
prototypefromhimforadecentamountofmoney,makinghimthinkhewasontosomething.Latertheyscrappedtheprototypeto
preventitfrombeingmanufacturedandused.
Icouldbewrongaboutdetails,butthat'showIrememberit.Thegiststillholdstrue.Andit'snotreallymuchofaconspiracytheory,I
think.Itmakesatonofsense.
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Meh.WithallofTesla'stech(andsubsidies)westilldon'thaveanaffordableallelectriccarfromthemwithenoughrangetohavebroad
appeal.Itiscoming,butitistakinglotsofmoderntechthatdidn'texistinthe90s,andahugefinancialpush(superchargerstations)
andsubsidies.
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Mybloodboiledwatchingthatdocumentary.Electriccarscouldeasilybemainstreambynow,butnoooooowecan'thavethat.
Corporateinterestsfirst!Let'sensurethatwealthandpowerisconcentrateinhigherechelonstofurtherstratifyoursociety.It'sallabig
fuckingjokeandwe'reonthebuttendofit.
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Semirelated,anenginewasmadethatcanrunonwaterbutwaspickedupbyacompany(fordIthink)andhasn'tbeenseensince
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Anotherimportantthingtonoteisthatelectriccarscanalsobedependentonfossilfuels.AtleastintheUS67%ofelectricitycomes
fromfossilfuels.https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3
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It'ssosadhowmuchthealmightydollarstiflesprogressionofliterallyeverythingfromtechnologytoscience,wrecksourplanetand
causesmasssufferingofthelessfortunate.I'llneverunderstandtheperspectiveandmindstateofsomeonewhothinksmakingan
extrabillionwhentheyalreadyhavebillionsismoreimportantthanthefutureofourplanetandthewelfareofotherswithsomuchless.
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[] umilmi81 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therewasnoconspiracytokilltheelectriccar.Thetechnologywasn'tright.IciteasproofhowmuchmoneyandtimeElonMuskhas
putintobuildinganelectriccar.Tosaythatitwaspossibletobuildaproductioncapableelectriccar30yearsagoreallyshortchanges
allthehardworkTeslaMotorshasputintoengineeringtheircars.
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Similartothis,therewasascientistthatcreatedawaterfueledcarengineandwasdeadwithinthemonth.
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Anyonethat'sworkedwithelectricmotorsandbatteriesatallknowsthisishorseshit.Ican'tstandreadingaboutthisoverandover
again.IgrewupracingRCcars,whichareallaboutelectricsandbatteriesandalotofthestuffTeslausesnowwastakenfrommy
sport.Myfatherwasanengineerintheautomotiveindustryinthe80s/90s.Therewasnowayinfuckinghelltherewasgoingtobea
batterycapableofpoweringacaratthattime.Regenerativebreakingwasn'taviabletechnologyuntilthemid90sinRCcars...much
lessfullsizecars.
Eventhoughmyracingrigswere1/10ththesizeofanormalcar,Istillhadenormousissueswithpowerrouting,batteryfailure,
overheating.Itwasamess.Ihadcarscatchonfireonthetrack.Ihadbatteriesexplode,morethanonce.Ispentmoreonbatteries
thanthecaritself.Thenthebatteriesthemselveswouldonlylastafewraces.
Carsinthe1980s/90sbarelyhadcomputersinthematall.Infact,ifyougotakeapartan80scarit'srunalmostentirelyonvacuum.
Thewiringatthetimewasbarelycapableofholdinguptonormal12voltload.Moreflexibleandcorrosionresistantwiringisaverynew
invention.
Allthispieintheskynonsenseaboutelectriccarsmakessenseuntilyoutakethemoutofthelab.Therealworldisdirty,salty,wetand
generallyinhospitabletothelargecurrentsproducedbyelectricvehicles.I'mgladthey'refinallycomingtothemarket,butthereisno
wayinhellsomeonecouldhavebuiltone20yearsago.Ifwecould,wewouldhave.
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Isn'ttherealsotheconspiracythatalcoholprohibitionwaspushedbyRockefellerbecauseHenryFordwastryingtogetalcoholpushed
asanalternativetogasoline?
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ElectricCarswerearoundlongbeforeGM'sEV1.
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Afterdecadesofstalling
Soundsliketheproblemwasmanualtransmissionandinexperience
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Orthefactthatelectriccarsaren'tviableforthemajorityofthepopulationthatactuallyneedstorelyonautomobilesfortransportation.
Bundlethatwiththefactthatelectriccarscausemorepollution.
Rambleaboutconspiracytheoriesallday,butwejustdon'thavethetechnologyyet.
TheTeslaisanoveltytoyforthosewhocanaffordmultiplevehicles.
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[] TechnologyFetish undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThefilmdetailedhowGeneralMotorshadcreatedanelectriccaronlytotakeallthecarsbackandstopallproductionwiththehelp
ofoilcompaniesandthegovernment.
Thefilmseemedreallywellresearchedatfirst,untilitshowedoneofthecarswhichhadallegedlyallbeenrecalledbyGM.Wehave
oneintownthatbelongstosomecompanydowntown,it'sbeenthereforyears,stillthereAFAIK.
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Uh,OKshowmethebatteriesbackinthedaythatwouldhaveallowedanelectriccartorunmorethan5minutes.Therehavebeen
HUGEadvancementsoverthepast1520yearsinbatteriesandtheyarejustbecomingadequate.
Soyourelectriccartheoryisajokebecauseitneverwouldhaveworkedbefore.There'snotmuchspecialabouttheelectriccar.It'sthe
batteriesthataretricky.
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Thistheorynevermadesensetome.Firstoff,allpatentsarepublic...andinbuildinganelectriccarGM/Ford/whoevercouldbasically
controltheentirecycleofacarbybuildingoutinfrastructurecuttingouttheoilcompanies.EvenwithsomeonelikeMuskpushing
batterytechandnowApple...batterytechstillsucksmajorballscomparedtogasoline.
Therealreason:batterytechiscrappy.
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[] brereddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hugefanofgettingoffoildependancybutthereisverylittlecredibilityinanyone'sbeliefthatanythingbuteconomicsdrivesevehicle
adoptiononamassscale.Sure,wealthyHollywoodactorsandtheirwannabesfollowthembutwearenowhereclosetoadopting
electriccars.
Theconspiracyistocreatetheideathataconspiracyholdsbackevs.WhatholdsbackevadoptionisbatteryspecsperformanceAnd
cost.Nomiracle.
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[] UsayNOPE_IsayMOAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisspoton,angoesallthewaybacktotheinventionofthecaritself.Electricandinternalcombustionmodelswerebothavailablein
theearly1900s.Theelectricwerepreferred,astheyhadfewersmalllovingpartstobreakdown,weresilentanddidn'tscarenearby
horses,anddidn'tpumpoutnastyexhaust.Inadditiontobreakingmore,andrequiringmoremaintenance,thegasmodels'engine
crankwouldoftenkickbackandbreakthecrankersarm.HenryFordhadinterestsinoilandgas,andsawmorelongtermprofitfrom
creatinganindustrysurroundingtheupkeepofICEs,soheceasedproducingelectriccars.
Icanonlyimaginethestateofbatterytechnology,electriccarsandtheenvironmentifhehadjutgivencustomerswhattheywanted.
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OilandcarcompaniesalsoboughtupanddestroyedalmostallofthecablecarnetworksintheUnitedStatestodestroythe(non
pollutingandhighlyefficient)competitionforcarsandbusses.
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Batterytechwasn'tready.
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Ithinkthatthepeoplethatcontrolpetroleumintheworldarerealizingthatthatshitdoesn'tlastforeverandarerushingtobuyand
patentallsustainableenergysourcesandthat'swhyelectriccarsarehittingthemarketsenmasse.Evenperformanceelectriccarslike
thei8.Sotheyshiftedtheirassetsfrompetroleumtoidksolarpowerforexampleandincentivizetesla/nissan/bmwandmakethe
marketforelectriccars.
I'msorryIhaveanactiveimaginationandthinksomebigpeopleinsuitscontroleverything
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ImetaladyinWalmartoncethatwentintodetailaboutherengineerhusbandandhimbeing'shookdown'bysomeguyswhooffered
himmoney,themthreats,toabandonhisproject.Maybeheblewhismoneyonwhoresandneededanexcuse,dunno,butsheseemed
believable.
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WatchingWhoKilledtheElectricCar?mademebelievethiscompletely.IwassopissedateverythingIsawinthatdocumentary.Itell
peopleallthetimeabouthowfuckedupallthatwas.
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[] d_fens99 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tknowaboutthat...inthebeginningoftheautoindustry,therewerethreetypesofpowerplantsforcars.Obviously,theinternal
combustionenginewonout,butthereweresteamandelectriccarswaybackintheearly1900s.
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Samethinghappenedwithacarthatranw/ondemand,waterderivedhydrogenusinganadvanced,resonantandthushighefficient
waterfracturingthatcomprisedofnocurrentresonanthighvoltageelectricforces,magnetandinfraredpulsingalltimedperfectlyto
efficientlysplitthewatermoleculeandprovidefuelforinternalcombustionengines.
StanleyMeyerwashisname,thevehiclewasdefinitelyreal.Youcanfindthe400pagetechnicalbriefpdfongoogleifyourgooglefuis
decent.
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Funnyhowtoday'scarsgetprettymuchtheexactsamemilespergallonascarstwentyyearsago.Whyhavenoneofthese
automobilesadvancesimprovedfuelefficiency?
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thatwasagreatdocumentary!ifounditweirdhowgadget'sshopmysteriouslycaughtfireonenight.iknowhewasntahugecompetitor
liketeslabutthatisaconspiracyofitsown.
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itookaclassonitandi'mcallingbullshitontheelectriccarconspiracy.peoplethinkcarmanufacturerswerepurposelyholdingback
theproductionofthem,wheninrealityelectriccarsjustweren'tuptoparyet15yearsago.theev1inparticularwasafantasticvehicle,
butitwasstillarchaicindesignandnotfitformassproduction.the10yearsinbetweenthatandthevolt/leaf/teslawasperfecttimeto
perfectthetechnologyandmakeitfinanciallypossible.
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ThefilmdetailedhowGeneralMotorshadcreatedanelectriccaronlytotakeallthecarsbackandstopallproductionwiththehelp
ofoilcompaniesandthegovernment.
Thosecarswerenowherenearasgoodasthegascarsalreadyonthemarket,theywereanicheproduct.GMprobablyrecalledthem
becausetheycouldn'tjustifythecostofemployingstaffthatknewhowtoworkonelectriccarsattheirdealerships.Or,theyknewthe
techwasn'tthatgreatandthatshitwasgoingtostartfailingbeforethewarrantieswereupandthatitwouldcostthembillions.
LookattheTeslaModelS:mostadvancedelectriccaronthemarket,butthefirstgenerationofthemwasabsolutelyplaguedwith
problems.Mostoftheoriginaldriveunitshavefailedandbeenreplaced.Decadesago,GMhadfarmoreprimitivetechnologyintheir
electriccars.Ifthosecarsdidendupgoingmainstream,itcouldhavecompletelydestroyedthecompanyifanunforeseenproblem
startedkillingthem.
Butitwasn'tfornothing.TheChevyVolt,whilenotsolelyanelectricvehicle,isprobablythemostaccessibleelectriccaronthemarket
andhasincrediblyhighownersatisfaction.I'llbetthingstheylearnedmakingtheEV1wentintomakingtheVolt.
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Evenifelectriccarswereproduced,itdoesn'tmeantheywereanygood."WhoKilledtheElectricCar"ignoresthefactthatthecarsGM
producedinthe90swereawful.Theoriginalmodelhadreallyawfulbatteriesthatweighedwellover1000lbstotal.Thelastmodelof
GM'selectriccarshadmuchimprovedbatteries,butthecarstillrequired25separatebatterypackstakingupatonofspace,ittook8
hourstogetafullcharge,andthetotalrangewasstillabout150miles.
Thetechnologywasjustprettyterriblebackthen,butithasmassivelyimprovedsince.Hell,evenlookatcellphonebatteriesandhow
thingsaredesignedtominimizepowerconsumption.RealworldtestingfoundthattheoriginaliPhonecouldlast9hourswithsome
internetbrowsing,audio,picturetaking,andtalkingonthephone,andtheiPhone6canget14hoursofheavyusagedespitehavinga
muchbiggerscreenandmuchmorepowerfulinternals.Andthe6batteryisonly30%largerthanthe2Gbattery.Batterylifeeven
improvedbetweentheiPhone6andtheiPhone6S,butthebatteryinthe6Sisactuallysmaller.
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Idon'tthinkthisisfarfetchedatall.Ireadsomewherethatautocompaniesstartedbuyingupallofthepublictransportationsystems
aroundthecountryandmakingthemlessconvenient/availablejustsotheycouldmakecarsthebetteroption.I'msureoilcompanies
aremakingitworththeirwhiletostayinbedwiththem.
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[] nbarbettini undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'maliteskepticalofthisone.Notbecauseitisn'tplausiblethattheoilcompanieswouldwanttosquashit,butbecauseelectriccars
were(andstillare)limitedbythedevelopmentoflithiumionbatterytech.
Idon'tthinkitwouldhavebeenpossibleforTesla(orGM)tobuildaModelSequivalentinthe90s.Eveninthe2010s,Teslahadtodo
someprettyhardcoreengineeringtogettotherangenumberstheydid.
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Idon'treallygetthisthough.Automanufacturershaveprettyclearbenefitstosellelectriccars.Theyalreadyhavealotofthe
infrastructureandcapabilitiesmanufacturethemgivingthemalegupontheanycompaniesjuststartingupliketesla.Plushaving
alreadyestablisheddealersandallthatwouldmakegettingthemintomarketaloteasier.They'rebasicallyperfectlypositionedtotake
advantageofitthatitdoesn'tmakesense.It'slikehowSearscouldhaveprettymuchbecameAmazon.
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Ithoughtthestonecuttersheldbacktheelectriccar...
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[] prodmerc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TotallynotChevroletorNissan,amirite?
Eventhoughtheirelectriccarssuckimo,theyofferedelectriccarswaybeforeTesla...
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youneedtocheckoutGasHoletoo.
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[] SallyStruthersThong undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Letmejustshellout$200kandwait10monthsformyTesla.Problemsolved...
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[] lewsflamingtherin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sowe'restillwaitingforthatdemandthen,huh?
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[] Boxception undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagree.InthefirstepisodeofMr.Roger'sneighborhood,Mr.Roger,drivesanelectriccaranditworkedquitefine.Thetechnologywas
there,buttheprofitwasn't.
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AutomotiveEEhere...Sorry,butyouhavenoideawhatyouaretalkingabout"thetechnology"wasabsolutelyNOTthere.Itstillsort
ofisn't.
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[] Boxception undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ItwasasillystatementtoreferenceMr.Roger'sneighborhood.
CertainlyasanAutomotiveEEyou'dunderstandthatthestatementwasreferringtohowtheelectriccarwasnotprofitableto
manufacturecomparedtoacombustioncar.
ThetechnologywasthereintermsofdriveableelectricelectriccarIdon'tthinkitiscommonknowledgethatelectricvehicles
havebeenaroundforalongtime.Thehaltofproductionequatestotheslowdownofadvancementinelectriccars.
That'swhatIunderstoodfromOP'spostandwaswhatIwasreferringto,Ithinkyouarereferringthetechnologybeingthere,
asin,somethingadvanced,reliable,andwellworkingforourmoderndayuseofcars.Whichistrue,itwasnotthereanditstill
isn't.Wearealongwayfromit.
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lookathowmuchaTeslacost.andthatiswithtoday'sbatterytech.Doyoureallythinkwecouldhavemadeausefulelectriccarinthe
80sand90s?
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Imagineifthesecompanyhadbeguninvestinganddevelopingthattechnologysincethe80'sand90's.Insteadofdestroyingand
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hinderingit.Youwouldn'tbepaying$150k+foraluxuryelectriccarwithnecessarymileage.
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[] imnotgoats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WasitthesamepeoplewhomadeSteveGuttenbergastar?
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AtthetimetheelectriccarcosttoomuchandthemarginswerejustnotthereforChevrolet.Withtechnologycatchingupthecostswill
godownandChevroletwillstartmakingthemagain.
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Ummm...ChevyhasbeenmassproducingtheVoltforabout2yearsnow.
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TheVoltisnotapureEV.TheupcomingBoltisthough.
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[] blarppoop undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TherewasaTedtalkover20yearsagowhereengineersfromacouplemajorautomobilemanufacturerdesignedanelectriccarusing
existingpartsforunder10,000$
Iftheywantedtoproduceaninexpensiveelectriccar,theycertainlycouldhave.
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Oilwasincrediblycheapbackthenwhereaselectricitywasn'tsoitwasn'taviablevehicleuntilthegridwasupgradedandgasoline
reachedrealisticpricinginthelate70's.
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Theelectriccarisn'tdead,yo.Therearemanymakesandmodels,includingonesbyGM.
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Therangewasshitonthosecostsandtheycosttoomuchtoproduce.
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[] coonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkthereasonwhyTesla'scarsaresomuchbetterthananyotherelectriccarsisthatTeslahasno(known)oilconnections.
Everyoneelsehasintereststhatconflictwithdesirableelectriccarswithlongrange.
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NopeTeslajustisthebyproductofmobilephoneandlaptopdevelopmentforpast30yearsothersideeffectofthatisthesecond
riseofVirtualRealitythatisanoffshotfromdevelopmentofcheapandgoodscreensandsensorsthatarefinallywithinrangeof
whatVRdemands.Justrememberthatmostpeoplecurrentlyhavehighierresolutionon5inchscreenoftheirphonethantheyhave
intheirTVandIMUtherearemoreprecisethananycheapsensorwas5yearsago.
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Sure,butwhyaren'tthereanyothercompetitiveelectroniccarsoutthere?
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Becauseittakesfewyearstodevelopanindustrialproductlikeacarfromthestartoftheprojecttoreleaseandwe
havequiteafewwithnissanleafandBMWi3amongtopsellerswiththe100k$modelS
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It'snotthatfarfetchedofaconspiracy,itjustrecentlycameoutthatExxonhasbeenspendingmillionsfordecadestospread
misinformationaboutclimatechange.
Who'stosaytheydidn'tpurposelybuyout,shutdownordelayR&Dthatinvolvingalternativeenergybecauseitwouldlowerthereliance
onoil.
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[] Lemerney2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thismighthelppeoplegetanunderstandingonelectriccars
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[] jeffmolby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude,we'vejustenjoyed20yearsofinsaneinvestmentintobatterytechthankstotheportableelectronicsrevolutionandbatterytech
stillisn'tadvancedenoughtomakeelectriccarscompetitivewithgascars.
We'regettingclose,buttheEV1neverstoodachanceofbeingaprofitablemainstreamcar.Itwasanexperimentanditlostatonof
moneyforthem.NodoubtalotoftheknowledgefromtheEV1projectwascarriedforwardtotheVolt,whichbenefitsfromhighergas
prices,generoussubsidies,andbetterbatterytech,butstillisonlymarginallysuccessful.
IfGMhadacosteffectiveelectriccarin1999,theywouldhavedominatedtheworldmarketintheblinkofaneye.Theydidn't.They
hadan$80kCavalierthatcouldonlygetyoutoworkandback.Nobodywouldhavepaidfullpricefor.
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Bbutmuhtesla!
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IIRCwasn'ttheEV1notevenGM'sfirstattemptatanelectriccar?You'redeadrightaboutthemnotbeingtrulyviableorprofitable,
althoughIsuspecttheTeslacirclejerkwon'tlisten.
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FYItheVoltisaserieshybrid.NotanEV.
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[] adamsvette undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
nevertheless.the2000hondainsightwasallgasanditgot60+mpg.thentheystopproductionandrecreateahybridinthe10'sand
itonlygot35ishsoyeahtheautocompaniesandtheoilconpaniesaretightwitheachother,fuckingoverourenvironmentforsome
shorttermprofit.
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20yearsofinvestinginbatterytechnologybasedonrelativelylowdrawoverlongerperiodsoftimeopposedtowhataTeslacando
whenaccelerating.Ofcoursethebatteriesaren'tabletokeepupwithsomethingthatcansuckthelifeoutofitinminutesorpossibly
hoursathighercapacitiesthanoriginallydesignedfor.
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[] __Noodles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thankyou,Ifeellikeyouhavetohaveneitheranyideaofhowcars,electronics,orscienceworkstobeleivethatone.
Fuckingdumbalone,thentomakeitupsothatTeslaCoisthehero...Lol.
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[] KIAN420 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ikeephearingonredditthatit'sbatterypatentsthatareholdingitback
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[] throwaway100915 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hooboy.Theyhaveit.Youthinktheyreallywanttoshowalltheircardsatonce?
Thinkofvehicletechnology,asaniPhone.Yougetabrandspankingnewmodel,then,ayearlater,theS.RinseandRepeat.The
slowtrickledown,tosuckandleecheverylastdollarfromthepublicpocket.
Performance,competition?Simple.Thereareelectricracecarsthatwillabsolutelydecimatetheirfuelinjectedcounterparts.I've
workedwithOEM's,andbeentothedevelopmentfactories.Therearecompetitiveresolutionstorenewableelectricenergyvehicles,
thatworkonparhavebeenforyears.
Everything,isaboutprofit.Whydecimateanindustrythatissupportedonamultiplatform,globalscale?Theamountofbusinesses
involvedintheacquisitionandprocessingoffuelalone.Consumers,Transportation,Motorsportsyouthinktheyreallycareabout
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makingitcompetitive?Whycannibalizeyourownmarket?
Theywon't.We'reluckyenoughtoseethebeginningofwhat'spossiblebut,we're10yearsbehind,ifnotmore,everythingthey've
alreadydone.
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[] handydandydoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sno"facts"inyourposttologicallyargueagainst.Youmademaybetwofalsifiableclaimsandthenaskedabunchof
tangentialquestions.TheaverageageofacarontheAmericanroadis~12years.Yes,they'remakingquitethekillingby
pushingoutanewmodelyearafteryear.
Theonlyadvantage"electricracecars"haveisacceleration.They'llbekilledinanythingthatinvolvesenduranceor
maneuverability.
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Nowhereinthatrantofyours,didyouprovideanycontestableinformation,otherthanthefactthatyoudon'tagreewith
me.
Thefactis,youhaveanindustrythatencompassesthegeneralfunctionalityofoureverydaylivesthefoundation,
managingtodosoforthelastcentury.Theautomotiveindustryisoneofthemostimportant,tofeedfromthatelectric
alternativeshavebeenniched,cateringtospecificclassesofconsumers.
Also,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SparkRenault_SRT_01E
Whatwasthatagain?Sodoff.
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Iagreewholeheartedlywithyou.Everythingisaboutmoneyandpeoplerefusetoacknowledgethepowerofoilcompanies.
SureCompanyXcouldhavecorneredthemarketwithanewproductandrevolutionary,gamechangingtechtenorfifteen
yearsago,butwho'stosaytheywereevengivenachoice?Bigoilhascountlesscompaniesbytheballsandfewhavethe
abilitytosaynoandcomeouttheothersideunscathed.
Ontheotherhand,sayCompanyXchosetowithholdthattechnologyforprofitoftheirownvolition?Whywouldn'ttheysiton
itforadecadeandrakeitinongasvehiclesinthemeantime?Thattechnologyisanevenmorevaluableresourceand
investmentnowandtodecrytheideathatithasbeenviableallthistimebasedonthepitifulargumentof"it'sjustnotpossible"
isignorant.ThisarticlereleasedthispastJulyevidencesthatExxon,whichisthelargestoilcompanyontheplanet,has
knownabouttheclimateandenvironmentalimpactoffossilfuelssince1981.Thatwas34yearsago.
Andwhatdidtheydowiththisinformation?Theysatonit,becausetheyknewitwouldleadtonewemissionsregulationsthat
wouldultimatelyhurttheirbottomline.Ontopofitall,thecompanymadethedecisiontoinvestaneventual$30millioninanti
climatechangepropaganda,eventhoughclimatechangeandglobalwarningwasn'tsomethinganyoneknewaboutoutsideof
alaboratoryuntil1988,7yearslater.
Formoney.
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Ourrelianceisfartoogreattocurrentlyundermineitwithcompetingtechnologywehaveacenturies'worthof
infrastructurebuiltuponit.
Thegeneralpubliclikestosimplifythecausebyonlyacknowledginganichemarket,however,howmanyotherenergy
resourcesarecurrentlyviable?I'mnotcontestingtheefficiencyorexistence,onlythatthedominanceofconsumable
fuelsessentiallyrunseveryfacetofthemodernworld.
Thepoliticsareanother,entirely.Icaughtthatarticle,aswellit'sthestarkrealityofthelengthssomeareabletogo,in
ordertoprotecttheindustry.Yet,thereisnogoodreasontochallengethatefforttheautomotiveindustryismassive,
andprofitsaredrivenbyvirtuallyeveryconsumerontheplanet.
Electricvehicles,arenothamperedbytechnology,butbysaidindustry,andeverythingthatsupportsit.Vehiclecosts,in
purchase,andutilityratescornerbuyerswithonlythefinancialmeanstodoso.Marketingleanstowardclass,orclean
andgreenliving.Publicchargingstations(whileslowlybecomingmorecommonplaceincertainregions)arescarce,
limitingtheradiusavehicleisabletooperatewithin.Mindyou,mostarepurchasingthesevehiclesforsuburbanand
citycommutes,notthelonghaul.
Myapplicationofdecimateiscorrect,bysimpledefinition:
kill,destroy,orremovealargepercentageorpartof.http://beta.merriamwebster.com/dictionary/decimate
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Point,point,andpointagain.Itipmyhattoyou,sirormadam.
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Yea,thewholecarmanufacturersandoilcompanieskilledelectriccarsdoesn'tmakesense.Like,carmanufacturersaresittingon
revolutionarytechnology,inwhichtheyarethesolepossessorsofthemarketchangetocome.Inwhichtheycouldsetabout
implementingverticalintegrationandensuringastrangleholdonthebatterymarket,buttheydon'tforthesakeofkeepingtheless
innovativefuelsourceafloat?Anideaworthtrillions,andtheyletitgotowastetomaintainprofits?
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[] PtrkLnk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youknowyousaythis,butthatisliterallyexactlywhathappenedwithKodakandthedigitalcamera.Thetechnologyfordigital
cameras,theCCD,wasdevelopedbyoneoftheirengineers.HewastaskedwithfindingoutofaCCD(chargecoupled
device)couldbeusedtorecordimages.AfteralongwhileheendedupwithaworkingprototypeofthemodernDSLR
camera.IttookdecentqualityphotographsforthetimecomparedtoSLR(film)cameras.Whenheshowedhisresultstohis
bossestheyendedupshuttinghimdownandcancelingtheentireresearchproject.Theytookwhatcouldhavebecomingan
insanelyprofitablemarketthattheycouldhavedominatedandruineditbecausetheywantedtomaintainprofitsandnothurt
thesaleoffilmandfilmcameras.
SourcesothatyoucanseeIamnotjustpullingthisoutofmyass.
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AndXeroxhadthefirstpersonalcomputerandtheydidn'tmoveforwardwithitbecausetheythoughtitwoulddestroy
theircopymachinemarket.
Thosearebadbusinessdecisions,notconspiracies.Aconspiracywouldbemanycompaniesallcolludingtonever
produceadigitalcameraorapersonalcomputer.
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[] bgrueyw undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Kodaksmarketingdepartment,however,resistedit,accordingtotheTimes.Sassonwastoldtheycouldsellthe
camera,butthattheywouldnt,forfearitwouldcannibalizefilmsales.Atthetime,Kodakmademoneyoffofevery
stepofthephotographybusiness.Whygivethatup?
Youmentionedthis,butthisisimportantdifferencetohighlight,IwouldimaginethatalargeportionofKodak'sincome
atthetimewasfromfilmsales,anddigitalcamerascompletelyeliminatedthatrevenue.GMdoesn'tsellgasoline.
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Yeah,1974Voyagerdeepspaceprobeshavedigitalcameras,theysureasshitdidn'tsendfilmpicsofNeptune
andPluto
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[] PtrkLnk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatistrue.
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[] Styledatol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Itwouldn'tbeoutlandishtobelievethatGMExecsgetkickbacksfromoilcompanies,andthatsaidoilcompanies
holdsharesofcarmanufacturingcompanies.There'salsothefactthatacquiring,refiningandtransportingoil(not
tomentionthejobscreatedbyservicingandhousingthosewhodoalltheoilrelatedwork)createsjobsandbrings
money:Don'thavetolookfareither,whentheoilandgaspricesdropped,Albertaturnedfromadestinationfor
peopleseekingtomakealivingtoaplacepeopleareleavingindroves.
Oilisprofitable,andnotonlyforthosewhoownit.
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[] MLBfreek35 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IfgascompaniesarepayingGMtosquashtheelectriccar,thenGMeffectivelyearnsmoneyfromgas,no?
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HowmuchmoneywouldanoilcompanyneedtopayGMforthemtoforgotheTrillionsofdollarstheywould
makewithelectriccars?
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[] superfish13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'seasy:
Trillionsofdollars+1
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[] Sooperburd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
This.Allthethis.TheEV1conspiracyisahugefuckingjoke.
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don'tforgetthegeneralmotorsstreetcarconspiracy!historicalprecedent
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[] BevansDesign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Webarelyhavethebatterytechnowforelectriccarstobefeasible.Wecertainlydidn'thaveitbackthen.Theyweregoodenoughto
getagolfcartaroundacourseacoupletimes,butthat'sit.
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Bullshit.We'vehadthebatterytechnologytorunelectriccarssincetheverybeginning.
Ifyoudefine"feasible"asdoingeverythingagasordieselvehiclecando,abletogo65+mph,with250300milesofrangebetween
charges,seatingforfive,electricwindows,airconditioning,entertainmentsystem,alltheshitthatmakescarsweighandcosttoo
much,thensure,theyhaven'tbeenfeasibleuntilrecently.
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[] BevansDesign undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
So,golfcarts.
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Therearesolarpoweredracecars.Theyseatone.They'renotparticularlycomfortable.Butalltheyneedissunshine.
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surebutyou'reassumingthattherateoftechnologicaladvancementwouldhavebeenthesameregardlessofcapitalinflux,which
isunlikely.
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TheEV1wasthecapitalinfluxanditwasdiscontinuedbecauseitwasn'tevenremotelyclosetobeingprofitable.GMwasn'tin
apositiontothrowbillionsatatechnologythatwasstillalooooongwaysoff,sotheyshelveditforawhile.Thetechiscloser
now,sothey'rebackatit.Noconspiracy,justbasiceconomics.
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TheEV1wasinthenineties.Therateoftechnologicaladvancementwouldbefromthelate1800sfirstelectricmotorsto
nowhaditnotbeensuppressed.Orsothetheorygoes.
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Forthevastmajorityofthattime,oilwasplentifulandnobodycaredaboutemissions.Expectingpeopletoinvest
inelectricvehiclesundersuchconditionsislikeexpectingpeopletobuildadesalinationplantinarainforest.
Itdidn'thappenbecausetherewasnodemandforit.itishappeningnowbecausethereisdemandnowandthe
demandisexpectedtogrowsignificantly.
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Butit'sbeenproventhattheautoindustrykilledthetrolleysbecausetheydidn'twantcompetition.Whyisit
soimpossibletobelievethey'dkilltheelectriccartoo?Thereisplentyenoughbenefits,evenbackthen,and
I'msuretherewasdemand.Obviously,itwasflimsyenoughsupportthattheautoindustrywasabletokillit,
buttheywouldn'tbotheriftherewasnochanceofitbeingcompetition.
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Electricvehiclesareallaboutchemistry.Ifandwhensomeonediscoversabatterywiththenecessary
densitythatcanbeproducedataconsumerfriendlypricepoint,electricvehicleswillquicklydominate
theworld.
Theonlywayanyonecould"killtheelectriccar"wouldbetodevelopthatrevolutionary(andinsanely
valuable)newbatteryandthenhidethatdiscoveryfromtheentireworld.TheEV1usedleadacidand
NiMHbatteries,whicharewellunderstoodbytheworld.Evenifeverymajorautomakerintheworld
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wereinontheconspiracyanupstartlikeTeslawouldhavemademoneyhandoverfistifitwere
possibletobuildamassmarketelectricvehiclewiththosebatteries.
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YoukeepmentioningtheEV1asifthatwasanywherenearwhatIwastalkingabout.Youcan
also"kill"somethingbysuppressingresearchorbyspreadingfalsehoods.I'malsonottalking
aboutdiscovering"The"electriccarthatisleaguesbetterthangascars.I'mtalkingaboutearly
researchthatcanbedeveloped,andthedevelopmentcyclecouldhavegoneonfromamuch
earliertimeandgottenmorefundingtobringittowhatitcouldhavebeentodayratherthan
playingcatchupnowthatsomeaspectshavebeendiscovered.
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you'retalkingaboutthecompanythathasspentbillionsofdollarsoverdecadesonhydrogenfuelcells.
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Right,they'veinvestedatonofmoneyintoavarietyofalternativefueltechnologies.Howdoesthatsupporttheoil
conspiracy?Isupposeyoucouldarguethattheyshouldhaveinvestedevenmoreintothealternatives,butthey
wentbankruptasitwas,soIdon'tthinkthatwouldbeaverysoundargument.
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consumablealternativesthatcanbeproprietarilydistributedfromacorporatecenter.ratherdifferentfroma
holeinthewallattachedtoyourelectricitybill...
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Ifwegowithyourtheorythatshadycorporationscontroleverything,thenshouldn'ttheelectricutilities
belobbyinghardforelectricvehicles?Theyhavethemosttogainifpeopleswitchfrombuying
gasolinetobuyingelectricity,right?
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lolwhat?howdidipossiblysaythat?isaidthatitwasn'tintheirinteresttoinvestmoneyinto
thistechnologybutitwastoinvestinaninferiortechnology?that'sacritiqueofcapitalismnotan
indictmentof"shadycorporations"
imeanmoststateshavelargetaxincentivesfordriverswhoswitchtoelectricvehiclesso...but
that'salmostcertainlybecausetheinfrastructureissimplertomaintainandthegovtisinterested
inkeepingmaintenancecostsdown.butokayyy...
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Sowhatyou'resayingisthattheconspiracyincludesGM,oilcompanies,andhydrogenproducers
thatdon'texistatanymeaningfulscale?
IthinkI'mgoingtosticktomyopinionthatifcountlesscompaniesarestrugglingtomakeprofitable
electricvehiclestoday,it'sincrediblyunlikelythatGMhadtheabilitytodoit15yearsago.
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imeangmandoilcompaniesteameduptodestroystreetcarssoit'snotlikethere'sno
precedenthere,butnothat'snotwhati'msaying.i'msayingthattheyrealizedtherewasno
economicalreasonforthemtocontinuetoinvestinthetechnologybutnotbecauseitwas
impossibleorimpractical,butbecauseitwouldhaveimpactedtheirbusinessmodeladverselyif
theyhadsucceeded,whichisnotthecaseinacentralizeddistributionformatlikehydrogenfuel
cells."rationalselfinterest"andallthat.
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Streetcarswereacompletelydifferentsituationatacompletelydifferenttime,sothe
supposedprecedentisn'tterriblymeaningful.
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Beyondthat,yourhypothesisseemspredicatedontheideathatGMhasinvestedinfuel
cellsbecauseitwantstogetintothebusinessofproducingandsellinghydrogen.That's
wildlyoutsideoftheirbusinessmodel.It'sfarmorelikelythattheyinvestedinfuelcells
becausetheywanttosellfuelcellcarsandtheydon'tcarewheretheyhydrogencomes
fromanymorethantheycarewherethegasorelectricitycomesfrom.
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MyunclesseniorprojectatRPIinthe70swasanenginedesignthatefficientlyranoffalcohol,thedesignwaspurchasedatasenior
sciencefairbyanoilcompany.
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TheUSAC(Indy500)allbutmademethanolmandatoryinthemid60s,andwascommoninF1backbeforeWW2....
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[] dj_vicious undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanksforpointingthatout.IthinkUSACmadeitmandatoryonthegroundsofsafetyasgasolinewoulderuptintoamassive
fireballandwasdifficulttoputoutbeingoilbased.Thealcoholflamesweren'tascatastrophicandcanbeextinguishedwith
water.Ironically,themethanol(ethanolinIndycartoday)burnsinvisibleandwashardertorealizeacarwasablaze.AFAIK,
gasolineisusedinf1todaybecause'exoticfuel'isbanned,butIdigress.Theindycarenginesofthelate90swereextremely
powerfulgiventheirsmalldisplacementandboostlimits.
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IthinktherewasareallybadcrashatanIndyrace.Ithinkbadcrashesaretheonlyreasonracingorganizationsever
changeanything.Likethelackofmagnesiumwheelsandpartsinracecarstoday...
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Isthatsupposedtobeimpressive?Peoplehavebeenbuildingmethanol/ethanolfueledenginessincetheinternalcombustionmotor
wasinvented.Theonlydifferencebetweenagasolineandethanolengineisthefuelmapping/carbjettingandplasticsusedinthe
fuellines.
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[] DrMaxwellSheppard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverycarmanufacturedorlegallyimportedintotheUnitedStatesforsalesince2007hastheabilitytorunoffof100%
ethanol,100%methanol,100%gasoline,oranymixturethereofwithonlychangestosoftwarebeingrequired,nohardware
change.Thereareevencompaniesthatwilldoitforyou,butthelegalityofitisquestionablebecausethebigoillobbygetting
therehandsonthelegislation.Theyhavedonesimilarthingstotheelectriccarindustryaswell.
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Yes,thatbig,meanoillobbythatsomehowletE85finditswayintoalargenumberofgasstationsandFlexFuel
becomeastandardfeatureonmostofthetopsellingvehiclesintheUS.
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ThatwastheIowacornlobby....theyweretheonesthatpushedforethanolfuelmixes
http://thefederalist.com/2015/10/21/howpanderingtoiowasethanollobbyhurtsamerica/
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I'maware.Mypointwasthattheoillobbyisn'tomnipotentandomnipresent.
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Youareright..andgetanupvoteasabonus.Iwasreadingtoofastandmissedthesarcasm.
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youuh...gotasourceforthat?
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Noitsnotsupposedtobeimpressive,itsanexampleofhowoilcompaniesdriveoutcompetition.
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[] ConstableBlimeyChips undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GM'srecalloftheEV1hadnothingtodowithbigoilandeverythingwiththefactthattheEV1wasacrapcarwhichwascostingthe
companymillionsindevelopment,marketingandsupportwhileonlyleasingacouplethousandcarstotal.
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[] bonestamp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Exactly.Itwasapilotprogram.Everymanufacturerdoespilotprograms.Chryslerhasbeenrunningapilotprogramwithelectric
pickupsandminivansforafewyears.GM,Toyota,HondaandNissanarecurrentlyrunningHydrogenvehiclepilotprograms.
Eventuallythesevehicleswillbedecommissioned,notbecauseit'saconspiracy,butbecausethatwastheplanfromthebeginning.
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Itwasa$45,000(inearly90's$$$)Saturnwithabunchofbatteries.Peopleareretardediftheythinkthegeneralpublicwouldbuy
that.
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[] donkeyotee undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Carmanufacturersdon'twantpeopletoownelectriccarsthathaveincrediblyreliableelectricmotors.
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[] MisanthropicAsshole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dealersdon'twantthembecausethere'slesstoworkon.Theservicedepartmentmakesalotofmoneyforadealership.Car
manufacturersmaincustomerisdealers,nottheenduser.
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Ya,butrepairsunderwarrantycostthemanufacturermoney.Themanufacturerwantsveryreliablecarstoensuretheirprofits
areeatenup.
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[] MisanthropicAsshole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mtalkingaboutthingslikefluidchanges,sparkplugs,etc.thingsanelectriccardoesn'trequire.
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You'reright,therewilldefinitelybefewerpartstomanagebutIthinkmanufacturerswilllikethat.Iwasoncean
inventorymanageratoneautomakerforservicepartsandit'snotamajormoneymaker.Infact,streamliningthe
partslistmightmakeitmoreprofitable.
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[] ACDRetirementHome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
incrediblyreliableelectricmotors.
AftertalkingtoabunchofTeslaownerswhohavehaddriveunitreplacements(somegettingthemevery15kishmiles),I'dsaythey
don'thavealottoworryaboutyet.Ourcar"knocks"atlowspeedfingerscrossedthatwewon'tneedareplacementoutof
warranty.
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IthinkIwouldratherhavetoreplaceonepartthatisknowntofailorhasfailed,andisrelativelyeasytoreplaceasonewhole
unit.Whereasreplacingaparthurriedbeneathpossiblyhundredsofpartswithsealsthatwillneedreplacingamongstthe
fluidsthatwillalsohavetobedrained.Nottomentionthemarginsoferrorassociatedwithpoorrepairs(improperlycleaned
seals,metalshavingsleftbehind,under/overtorquedboltswarpingcriticalparts).Igladlywelcomeavastlysimplifiedengine
bay.
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Butthedriveunitsarelike$12k:(Thatpaysforalotofenginedisassembly.Thereisalsoacoolantloopinvolvedthat
probablygetsdrained.
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Howmanyofthoseunitswerepaidforbythecustomerandnotcoveredunderwarranty?Theyarebreakingintoa
marketthathasneverbeenattemptedandareputtingstressonmotorswhosedesignsarelikelyyoungerthanI
am.YouhavetoaccountforTeslabeingaverysmallamountofcarsopposedtothevastamountofgasoline
poweredcarswithrepairsthatcanbejustasexpensive.Havinganengineortransmissionreplacementcango
wellintothatrangeandbeyonddependingonbrand.
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AFAIK,atthemomentit'sallbeenwarrantywork.However,thereareafewownersinthenetherlandswho
havepassedthewarrantymileageandseemtobehavingissuesgettingtheircarsfixed.
I'mpersonallykindofwaryabouthowmuchit'sgoingtocosttomaintainthecaronceitfallsoutofwarranty
giventhefailureswe'veactuallyexperienced.
Idothinkit'skindofdishonestthatsomeoftheTeslafanswillsimultaneouslyassertthatelectricmotorsare
superreliableandproventechnologyandyetalsoclaimthatthedesignisnew.Ipersonallydon'tknowof
anycarswherethetransmissionorenginehasbeenreplacedrepeatedlyevery2030kmiles(assumingthe
peoplewhohavehadswapsevery1012kmilestobeanomalies,butI'vemetmanywhohave~30kandat
least1replacementofatleastthedriveunit).
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Electricmotorsaren'texactlyanewareabutusingtheminthisapplicationissoIcanunderstand
yourviewthere.Anyonewhohasownedandabusedanelectricdrillwillunderstandhow"unreliable"
anelectricmotorcanbe.Justlikeanenginewithpoormaintenancecanbeunreliable.Butagainwe
arecomparingatechnologythathasbeeninactivedevelopmentforhundredsofyearswithbillionsof
milesunderitsbelt.Opposedtosomethingthatisrelativelynewtoconsumersandhashardlyany
reliabilitytestingforit.GMisanexampleofpoorenginedesignthatrequiredmultiplereplacements.A
bit"before"mytimebeingthelate80'searly90'sbuttheyhavevehicleswithpistonslapthatthey
neverbotheredacknowledgingbuthadaproblemthatwouldcausecatastrophicenginefailure.Ford
hadCVTtransmissionsandsixspeedtransmissionsinfullsizesedansthatcouldrequirereplacement
withinthosemileswithnormalusage.Thisistrulyasubjectwhereitseasilycomparablebutreally
shouldn't,butweallindulgeanyways.
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Electricmotorsaren'texactlyanewareabutusingtheminthisapplicationissoIcan
understandyourviewthere.Anyonewhohasownedandabusedanelectricdrillwill
understandhow"unreliable"anelectricmotorcanbe.Justlikeanenginewithpoor
maintenancecanbeunreliable.Butagainwearecomparingatechnologythathasbeenin
activedevelopmentforhundredsofyearswithbillionsofmilesunderitsbelt.Opposedto
somethingthatisrelativelynewtoconsumersandhashardlyanyreliabilitytestingforit.
Icompletelyagreethatpoorlymaintainedmachineryislikelytobeunreliablehowever,oneof
thesellingpointstheyused(andAFAIKstillcurrentlypush)tosellusthecarwasthatitneeded
little/nomaintenance(convenientlyomittingthe$600annualservice).
Thatsaid,Ikindoffindithardtoignorethefactthatelectricmotorsin(particularlyToyota)
hybridsnowhaveontheorderofbillionsofmilesonthemandwehaven'treallyseenawaveof
recallsandreplacements.Youcouldalwayssaythatthemotorsaren'texposedtoasmuch
stressasaTesladriveunitsinceit'ssupplementedbytheengine,butthetorqueoutput(which
I'duseassortofaproxyformotorstress)levelsareattheirmaximumatlowspeeds.
ItotallyforgotabouttheissueswiththeFordCVTunitsandmorerecentlytheirdualclutchunits
though.
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[] flightofthefalcon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
thisiswhaticameheretosee.Also,RudolfDiesel"mysteriously"disappearingrightbeforestartinghisnewdieselengineplant,
producingenginesthatcouldrunonvegetableoilandpeanutoil.
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Irememberonlyaboutadecadeagopeopletalkingaboutbiodieselandwithonlyafewmodificationsyoucouldputoldfryeroiland
greaseinyourcarandpowerdrivewithit.Whathappened?
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[] WatNxt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thoseoilsareworseonenvironmentalfootprintthough.
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Hedesignedthemallspecificallytorunoffoils,alcoholandthingstheeverydayfarmercouldproduce.Thisisbecauseadiesel
engineusedpressuretocombustit'sfuelratherthananormalcombustionengine.Theydon'tignitetheoildirectlylikewithaspark
plug,thepistonpushesdowninthechamberandcreatesatonofpressure(whichcreatesheat)eventuallycausingtheoilto
explode.I'veheardthisispartofthereasondieselengineslastsomuchlongeranditisn'tuncommontohearabout200300k
dieselsstillchuggingalongoutthere.
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[] Xmanatomic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wealreadyhavethose.
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Can'tallDieselenginesrunoffvegetableoil,withtheonlyupgradeneededisthefuellines?
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HappenedtotheChryslerturbinecarstoo.Theytriedtoroundupall55theymadeanddestroythem.Only5survivetothisday.
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[] Greg2012 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
producingenginesthatcouldrunonvegetableoilandpeanutoil.
Howisthisanadvantage?haveyoupricedpeanutoillately?
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OrHenryForddesigningthemodelttorunongas,methanol,orethanol(himbelievingthemostinthefutureforethanol)then
Rockafellarandtheoilcompaniesdecidedtobackprohibition.Theoilindustryhasbeenpullingshadyshitfordecades.
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[] nragano undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
alsomayhavetodowiththefactthatgasolineisbasicallytwiceasenergydenseasmethanolorethanol,soyoudgetmore
energyfromlessfuel,whichisaprettybigreasonethanolisaboutasgoodasitsgettingrightnowwiththeE85,itjustcant
matchgasoline,itsalsoquiteanintensiveprocesstodistillpure200proofethanol(whichistheonlyproofworkableforcars)
imnotsurewhatsinvolvedincrudeoilseperationbutethanoldistillationrequiresALOTofcorn,andquiteafewdifferent
enzymesthatarentallthatcheap
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IfyouwanttoseehowethanolstacksupagainstgasolineallyouhavetodoislookatBrazil.Theyhavebothethanol
andgasolineasachoiceatthepump.Ethanolisusuallylowerinprice,andyoucan'tforgetthefactthatitburnsmuch
morecleanthangas.
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[] midri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thismakesnosense.Alcoholwasstillavailablejustnotforconsumption.Guyonredditafewmonthshadawholecrateof
prohibitionerawhiskeythatwasmarkedformedicaluseonly.
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youhaventheard?hewenttogaltsgulch
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Youcanrunanydiesel(exceptthemostmoderndirectinjecteddesigns)onvegetableoilorwhatevercombustiblefuelyoucan
imagine.Youcanevenrunabasicdesign(likeacommercialgrade,dieselpoweredwoodchipper)oncornflowerifyouwantedto.
Thosefuelsaren'twidelyusedbecausethey'remoreexpensivethanpetroleumbaseddieselandaresignificsntlyworseinlow
temperaturesituations.PlentyofpeopleruntheirolddieselVolvo'sandBenz'songreasetrapoilforfreeoralmostnothingbutit's
onlycheapbecausethenumberofusersisnegligible.
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RudolfDiesel"mysteriously"disappearingrightbeforestartinghisnewdieselengineplant,producingenginesthatcouldrunon
vegetableoilandpeanutoil.
Earlydieselscouldallrunonvegetableoilfromthefactory.Theinjectionwasmechanicalandtheyfrequentlyhadtoheatupthetop
ofthecylinderwithablowtorchtogetittostart.Youcanevenmodifymost20thcenturydieselenginestorunonwasteveggieoil
(WVO)ifyoustartthemondieselfirstandusetheengineheattowarmtheWVOupfirstbeforeinjectingit.
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[] mrmonkeyriding undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OurLandRoverdroveonvegoilmostly.Justgetitfromthechipshopandfilterandyou'regood.Ithinkinsummeritwasa
50/50mixandwinterwas30/70(dieselbeingthelarger).
Workswonders.
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IfyoubuyanoldDeuceandaHalfsurplusarmytruck,youcanstartitandrunitalldaylongonvegetableoilandprettymuch
anythingelsethatburns.Thosethingsareacheapandeasyexampleofthissortofengine,youcanevendumptheused
engineoilintheirgastankafteranoilchangeandrunitonthat.
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Thosewillrunonunicornfartsandatechnicalsergeant'spissfromwhatI'veheard.
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everytechsergeantIknewhad80proofurineanyway
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[] Warslvt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MydadwasaTSGT.Surprisingly,neverdrankwhilehewasinthemilitary.
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It'saJOKE,Dude.(and,sadlywaskindatrueabout2030yrsago)
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[] 4011Hammock undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Godthosethingsarecool.Onlyhavekerosene?Noproblem.Fillerupandgetgoing.
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[] tastelessprick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CanconfirmhadaE300Mercedesthathada10gallonveggyoiltankwasn'tparticularlyhardtodoandmostplacesgaveout
theoilforfree.
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IlikedTinafey'slineonthis."Haveyoupricedagallonofcornoillately?Ihaveanotherideaforacarthatrunsonbald
eagleeggs"
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[] Elbmirtneb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irememberthatbeingaboutacarthatranonhazelnuts.AnditwasJimmyFallonwhosaiditonWeekend
Update,notTinaFew.Anditwasbaldeagleheadsandfabregeeggs.
yup,foundthelink
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TheymusthaverepeateditbecauseI'msureTinasaidthisinconnectiontothecornoilbus.
P.S.offtopic,thebestSNLjokewasofalltimewaswrittenandperformedbyNorm:"InLosAngelesthis
week,thedefensesufferedasetbackinthesecondOJtrialwhenSimpsonwasorderedtoturnovera
secretvideotapewhichlawyerssaycontainsproofofhisguilt.What'sonthetape?ThefirstOJtrial."
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Butit'swasteoilnotshityougetoffashelfandarewereallygoingtoquoteanactressonengineering?
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Soyouthinkthere'senoughwastedvegetableoiltofueltheworld'scars?Idon'trecallseetankertrucksfull
ofvegetableoildeliveringtomcdonaldsdaily
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DidIeversayit'safixerfortheworldoilcrisis,no.allimsayingisthatanyonewhomodstheircarto
runonthatwon'tbebuyingstoreboughtvegetableoilmakingthatstatementmisleadingatbest
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ThatwasactuallythecontextofTina'sjoke.Shewasmakingfunofhowthemediawas
reportingonthestoryofaresearcherwhoriggedhisVWBusupwithacornoilengine,then
droveacrossthecountrygettingfreewasteoil.Themediawashailingthisasabreakthrough
thatwouldcurbfossilfuelconsumption.Whichisofcourseridiculouswhenyouconsiderthat
wastedoilwouldmakeupapproximately0.00%oftheoilneededforwidespreadadoption.
Meaningthattherealworldapplicationofthistechnologywouldinvolvefuelthatisatleastthree
timesasexpensive.
Ican'tbelieveyoumademeexplainthat.
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Didyourplacesmelllikeafishandchipsshop?Iheardthatisthemainproblemeitherthesefuels.
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Thatsaproblem?
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Idon'tthinkIwouldmindthat.
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Ehitgetsold.That'swhatIrememberaboutworkingfastfood.Nomatterhowmanytimesyou
washedyourworkclothesandhowmanyshowersyoutook,youstillsmelledlikethosedamnfries.At
firstitwasn'tbad,thenitgottothepointthatyoucouldn'tevenlookatfastfoodorsmellitwithout
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Ifeelyou,IworkedatMcDonald'sforjustovertwoyears.Ialwayswashedmyworkclothes
separatelybecauseotherwisethesmellwouldsomehowgetintomyotherclothing.
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Shit,Iwouldn'tbeabletogetanywhere,constantlystoppingforFrenchfries.
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Iwasbehindoneoftheseonasinglelanehighwayforabout20minesonce...Goddamnsmelledlikerancid
frenchfriesthewholeway...
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Veryfrequentlythesmellofmoneyisn'tapleasantone.AlbertEinstein
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Letononainucep.
Illuminaticonfirmed.
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Whatwasthemileagelikeonthat?
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Itgotabout350milesontheveggytankthatthingwasatank.
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Thatsoundsamazing.Whydidyougetridofit?Ordiditjustbreak?
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IrandidLockerbieLibyawasentirelyinnocent.
Ican'tbebotheredyetagaindelvingintothespecificsofthis,becausethisthreadcomesupapproximatelyevery25minutesorso.
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KurtCobaindidgetkilled,andthere'slotsofproof.
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UghIdon'tfeellikegatheralltheproof.Justlookitup
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JFKwaskilledoverhisplansforbanking.
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JFKwaskilledasrevengeforMarilynMonroegettingwhackedforcarryinghisbaby.Theydidherintocoveritallup.
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Here'stheexecutiveorder,hebasicallytriedtoshutdownthefederalreserveanddiedafewmonthslater.Thebillshehadthetreasury
printareprettymuchoutofcirculation,Iwouldlovetohaveonehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110
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JFKwaskilledoverhisplansforbanking.
Imisread"banking"as"baking".OMG.
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IhavealsoreadthattheRothschild'shadLincolnkilledbecauseheplannedtogeteveryAmericanoutofdebttothebanksand
workingona"greenback"system.
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"greenback"system.
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Basicallypayingforeverythingwithcashandeliminatingcreditandinterest,ifyoudon'thavethecashyoucan'tbuyit.
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KennedycalledforandsignedlegislationphasingoutSilverCertificatesinfavorofFederalReserveNotes,therebyenhancingthe
poweroftheFederalReserve.ExecutiveOrder11110wasatechnicalitythatonlydelegatedexistingpresidentialpowersto
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Or,hislackofplansforVietnam.Oroilregulations.InrealitymultiplepowerfulinstitutionsbenefitedfromLBJbecomingpresident,so
muchsosomewouldsay,theyhadincentivestobecomplicit.
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LBJhadalottogainaswell.
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SowasAndrewJackson.
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AndrewJacksonsurvivedtwoassassinationattempts,andabolishedthenationalbank.Fuckingbadass
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HemurderedthousandsofIndiansandruinedtheUSeconomyforyearsbecauseofhisignoranceoneconomics.Jackson
shouldneverbeidolized.
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Somuchthis.
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Heyman,thetrailoftearswasn'tpretty.Ohalso,youcouldownblackpeople.I'mwritingonthissubjectcurrentlyandI
don'twhitewashit.Butyoucan'tblameJacksonaloneforwhatweasacountrydiduntilthe1900's,longafterhisdeath.
Tosayhewasignorantofeconomicsis,well,ignorant.HisviewswereclosertothoseofSandersorPaul,thanClinton
orBushthough.
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Wow...no.
FirstlyitisincrediblyimportanttoblameJacksonforwhathedidtotheIndians.Whilethesupremecourt
attemptedtoprotectthenativesincasessuchasCherokeev.GeorgiaandWorcestervGeorgia,Jackson
basicallyignoredthem,challengingthecourtsenforcetheirownrulings:JohnMarshallhasmadehisdecision.
Lethimnowenforceitifhecan.Jacksonprecededtoviolentlyremovetheindians,usuallyusingmethods
prohibitedbylaw.Butno,insteadofaninhumanetyranthe'sjustabadasslegend!
Andhiseconomicidealogyissimplyinsaneandwouldbescoffedatbyanymoderneconomist.Hiscorebeliefs
includedtheideathattheideaofcreditwasevil,andthatinvesting/speculationwasmorallywrong.Hisnotionof
"hardmoney"beingthebesttypeofcurrencyissimplywrong.Bydestroyingcentralizedbankingandthroughhis
idiotic"speciecircular",hedirectlycausedthePanicof1837,oneoftheworsteconomicdownturnstheUShad
everseenlastingsevenyears,andcausedmanymoreofaboom/bustcyclewhichcostedtheUSdearly.
YoushouldprobablyreadmoreintoJacksonifyou'rewritingonthesubject.
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Isitpossiblehecouldbebothaninhumanetyrantandabadasslegendatthesametime?
Iscoffatmostmoderneconomists,butmypapersalsowon'tbewinningmetheNobelPrize.
Inallseriousness,thankyoufortheresponses.
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Soinsteadweget0.1%oftheworldswealthandpowerinthehandsof1015psychopaths?
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JohnMarshallhasmadehisdecision.Lethimnowenforceitifhecan.
Jacksonwasdefinitelyaracisthowever,wasthatthesoleinfluencebehindhisdecisiontochallengethe
courthere?Marshallcreatedjudicialreview,whichisnotprovidedintheconstitutionandwashighly
controversialtothosewhowerestrictinterpreters.
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Andhiseconomicidealogyissimplyinsaneandwouldbescoffedatbyanymoderneconomist.
Aneconomicideologythatisscoffedatbyamoderneconomistisnotnecessarilysomethingbad.Thereisa
dominantlineofthoughtthatcomesfromivyleagueinstitutionsthatispasseddowntolessrecognized
institutionsyethereisavideohighlightofahedgefundmanager(whoactuallymakesmoneylivingin
reality)vs.JosephStiglitz,anobellaureateeconomistdiscussingtheGreecedebacle.Iamnotarguingfor
onesideortheotherbecauseevenafteryearsofstudyIamnotconvincedforthe"wecanplaygod
keynesianapproach"or"leteverythingworkitselfout"Austrianapproach,inlaymansterms.
Bydestroyingcentralizedbankingandthroughhisidiotic"speciecircular",hedirectlycausedthePanic
of1837,oneoftheworsteconomicdownturnstheUShadeverseenlastingsevenyears,andcaused
manymoreofaboom/bustcyclewhichcostedtheUSdearly.
Fromwikipediaon"speciecircular":
TheActwasareactiontothegrowingconcernsaboutexcessivespeculationsoflandaftertheIndian
removal,whichwasmostlydonewithsoftcurrency.Thesaleofpubliclandsincreasedfivetimes
between1834and1836.Speculatorspaidforthesepurchaseswithdepreciatingpapermoney.[2]While
governmentlawalreadydemandedthatlandpurchasesbecompletedwithspecieorpapernotesfrom
speciebackedbanks,alargeportionofbuyersusedpapermoneyfromstatebanksnotbackedbyhard
money
BasicallyJacksonstoppedinflationandcausedaseveredeflation,whichonecouldarguecouldhavebeen
muchworsehadtheinflationcontinued.
Also,thebankofenglandhadtoraiseinterestratesduetodecliningreserveratiosandthisbeingthe
dominantlineofthoughtatthetimeforhowtoremedytheissue.SinceGreatBritainactedastheworld's
hegemonytheywerefuelingtheexpansionintheUnitedStatesalsoleadingtorapidprice
appreciation/inflation.Wheninterestrateswereraisedthisfundingwascutoff.
WhatthisleadsonetobelievewasthatJackson'spolicy:actuallyhavingthehardmoneytopayfor
somethingandnotworthlessmonopolymoneymayhavecausedaneconomicdownturnthatprobably
wouldhavehappenedlateranyways.
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Sobasicallyyou'rearguingthatJacksonwasnotwrongtokillthousandsofIndiansafterignoring
courtordertonotdosobecauseJudicialreview,whichhadbeenwidelyacceptedinthejudicial
systemforthe30yearssinceithadbeenestablished,couldbearguedagainstwereonetotakean
extremistview?EmersonputitbestinapassionatelettercallingJacksonspoliciesacrimethatreally
deprivesusaswellastheCherokeesofacountry,forhowcouldwecalltheconspiracythatshould
crushthesepoorIndiansourgovernment,orthelandthatwascursedbytheirpartinganddying
imprecationsourcountryanymore?Jacksonwasquitesimplyadick.
TocompareJackson'seconomicbeliefstothoseofmodernAustrianorNewKeynesianorChicagoan
beliefsisagain,simplynottrue.Nomoderneconomistwouldeverfavorliteralhardmoney,and
althoughhardmoneybeliefsweremore"fashionable"inJackson'stimethaninmoderntimes,even
thenitwasconsideredoutlandishinfavoroftheideasofeconomicliberalism.
YouarguethatJackson'spolicyofhardcurrencyandthedestructionofbankingcausedaneconomic
downturnthatwouldhaveprobablyhappenedlateranyways,butthefactthatsuchaterrible
depressionoccurredisinitselftestamenttotheineffectivenessofJackson'sideas.
WhileitistruethatAmericadidhaveadebiteconomyproblem,thereweremanyotherwaystosolve
it.GBinthatperiodfacedaneconomicdownturncausedbytheAmericanonecreatedbyJackson
andinresponsedidtheoppositeofwhatJacksonwouldhavewantedandcentralizedtheprintingof
moneyundertheBankofEnglandthroughthehighlyeffectiveBankCharterAct.Thisisanexample
ofamorereasonablemethodofactiontocombattheriseof"worthlessmonopolymoney.",notforcing
tradetobeconductedthroughspecie.ThecompletefailureofJackson'sideasinpracticeisevidence
ofhisignoranceineconomics.
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Sobasicallyyou'rearguingthatJacksonwasnotwrongtokillthousandsofIndians
No.ThatisnotwhatIamarguingnorisyourhostilitynecessarybecauseyouaresittingacross
fromakeyboardratherthanacrossfrommehavingacoffeewhilstdiscussingthetopicliketwo
civilizedhumanbeings.
Judicialreview,whichhadbeenwidelyacceptedinthejudicialsystemforthe30yearssince
ithadbeenestablished
JeffersononMarshall:
"Youseemtoconsiderthejudgesastheultimatearbitersofallconstitutionalquestionsavery
dangerousdoctrineindeed,andonewhichwouldplaceusunderthedespotismofanoligarchy.
Ourjudgesareashonestasothermen,andnotmoreso.Theyhave,withothers,thesame
passionsforparty,forpower,andtheprivilegeoftheircorps....Theirpower[is]themore
dangerousastheyareinofficeforlife,andnotresponsible,astheotherfunctionariesare,tothe
electivecontrol.TheConstitutionhaserectednosuchsingletribunal,knowingthattowhatever
handsconfided,withthecorruptionsoftimeandparty,itsmemberswouldbecomedespots.It
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hasmorewiselymadeallthedepartmentscoequalandcosovereignwithinthemselves"
widelyaccepted
Lincoln:
"[T]hecandidcitizenmustconfessthatifthepolicyoftheGovernmentuponvitalquestions
affectingthewholepeopleistobeirrevocablyfixedbydecisionsoftheSupremeCourt,the
instanttheyaremadeinordinarylitigationbetweenpartiesinpersonalactionsthepeople
willhaveceasedtobetheirownrulers,havingtothatextentpracticallyresignedtheir
Governmentintothehandsofthateminenttribunal.Noristhereinthisviewanyassault
uponthecourtorthejudges.Itisadutyfromwhichtheymaynotshrinktodecidecases
properlybroughtbeforethem,anditisnofaultoftheirsifothersseektoturntheirdecisions
topoliticalpurposes"
AndaforfromHamilton:
"Ifitbesaidthatthelegislativebodyarethemselvestheconstitutionaljudgesoftheirown
powers,andthattheconstructiontheyputuponthemisconclusiveupontheother
departments,itmaybeanswered,thatthiscannotbethenaturalpresumption,whereitis
nottobecollectedfromanyparticularprovisionsintheConstitution.Itisnototherwisetobe
supposed,thattheConstitutioncouldintendtoenabletherepresentativesofthepeopleto
substitutetheirwilltothatoftheirconstituents.Itisfarmorerationaltosuppose,thatthe
courtsweredesignedtobeanintermediatebodybetweenthepeopleandthelegislature,in
order,amongotherthings,tokeepthelatterwithinthelimitsassignedtotheirauthority."
Alsothenumberofjusticeswas4atthetime.Therewerenotenoughofthemfortheirtobe
legitimatedissentingopinionsconsideringtheotherthreewereoperatingonthishierarchy:
"SoonafterbecomingChiefJustice,MarshallchangedthemannerinwhichtheSupreme
Courtannounceditsdecisions.Previously,eachJusticewouldauthoraseparateopinion
(knownasaseriatimopinion)aswasdoneintheVirginiaSupremeCourtofhisdayandis
stilldoneinthe20thand21stcenturiesintheUnitedKingdomandAustralia.Under
Marshall,however,theSupremeCourtadoptedthepracticeofhandingdownasingle
opinionoftheCourt,allowingittopresentaclearrule."
Jacksonwasquitesimplyadick.
Yeah,definitelyandIagreewithEmerson.RacialintoleranceistheexceptionalAmericanvirtue
thatisnotemphasizedinclassrooms.
TocompareJackson'seconomicbeliefstothoseofmodernAustrianorNewKeynesianor
Chicagoanbeliefsisagain,simplynottrue.
Youarefailingtoseetheforestthroughthetreeshere.Moderneconomicscouldbeconsidered
bysometobeleaguesaheadofpriorcenturieshowever,theystilldon'tknowshit.Theidea
thatcyclesaresomethingyoucanputyourhandonandfixisequivalenttothinkingthatyoucan
buildawalltostopthetidefromcomingin.Economicsislikephysicsbutwitheconomicsyou
can'tactuallymeasuremost,ifnotall,ofyourvariables.Mypointisthat:
Nomoderneconomistwouldeverfavorliteralhardmoney,andalthoughhardmoneybeliefs
weremore"fashionable"inJackson'stimethaninmoderntimes,eventhenitwas
consideredoutlandishinfavoroftheideasofeconomicliberalism.
Notallmoderneconomiststhatdofavorfloatingfiatcurrenciesandifyoulookatothertimesin
historywherefiatcurrencieshavebeenused,oneparticularinstanceistheSouthSeaBubbleit
hasitsconsaswell.
YouarguethatJackson'spolicyofhardcurrencyandthedestructionofbankingcausedan
economicdownturnthatwouldhaveprobablyhappenedlateranyways,butthefactthat
suchaterribledepressionoccurredisinitselftestamenttotheineffectivenessofJackson's
ideas.
ThisstatementisdevoidoflogicandIneverstatedJackson'spolicycausedaneconomic
downturn.TheBOEraisingratescausedtheinflationarybubbleintheUnitedStatestocometo
acrashinghalt.Jacksonwasinessence,toolate,tostoptheproblembycurbingexternal
capitalflowswiththerequirementofhardcurrency.TheideathataPresidentcansingle
handedlyinfluenceacomplexnetworkwedefineasaneconomyisquitesimplyludicrous,
especiallyatthistimeinUShistorybeforeFranklinRooseveltgavetheexecutiveoffice
tremendouspower.
WhileitistruethatAmericadidhaveadebiteconomyproblem,thereweremanyotherways
tosolveit.
Let'shearthem.
centralizedtheprintingofmoneyundertheBankofEnglandthroughthehighlyeffective
BankCharterAct
Oh,really.
"TheBritishCurrencySchoolwasagroupofBritisheconomists,activeinthe1840sand
1850s,whoarguedthattheexcessiveissuingofbanknoteswasamajorcauseofprice
inflation,andbelievedthat,inordertorestrictcirculation,issuersofnewbanknotesshould
berequiredtoholdanequivalentvalueofgoldasareserve."
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The[BankCharterAct]wasavictoryfortheBritishCurrencySchool,whoarguedthatthe
issueofnewbanknoteswasamajorcauseofpriceinflation.
Soitlookslikethisstatement
causedbytheAmericanonecreatedbyJackson
Iswrong.WhileJacksonisanasshole,
ThecompletefailureofJackson'sideasinpracticeisevidenceofhisignorancein
economics.
Isoperatingunderthefalseassumptionthathisideaofcurbinginflationwasthecauseofthe
1837panicwheninfactthecausewasexcessexpansionandinternationalinvestmentthatwas
comingtoacrashinghaltanywaybecausetheBoEraisedinterestrates.
Theideaofholdingspeciecurrencytopurchasesomethingisapracticethatisdesignedtohalt
inflationandexcesslendingviafreemarketprincipleswhilewhatyouareconsistentlyarguing
foriscentralizedeconomics,whichisakintocollectivism,socialism,fascismandadisease
inflictedupontheAmericanpopulace.
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Inregardtohiseconomicideology,you'reparadingaboutopinionasifit'sfact.Thatisathoroughly
dishonestpractice.
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Inthesocialscienceofeconomics,nothingcaneverbetakenasfact.Thatdoesn'tmeansomeideas
aren'tdumbasfuckandimpractical.
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Butthebankersgotitrightonthethirdtryandevenmadeitlooknatural.
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Andrewjacksondiedofnaturalcauses,aintamotherfuckerinhistorythatcouldkillhim.
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911andthattheUnitedStatesgovernmentdiditandcovereditup.
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MostofthesubredditsformajorcitiesarerunbymunicipalemployeesoraPRfirm.See/r/chicagoTheycan'ttakesubstantivepolitical
discussionbutphotosoftheskylineandtouristsgivingtheirthanksarealwaysontop.Theydoalsokeepoutalotoftheracismthat
wouldberampantifitwasn'tcensored,though.Thesubredditlookssomuchlikewhatchicagowouldliketheworldtothinkofitrather
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Welcometo/r/baltimore.
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...Skylinepictures...touristsgivingthanks...
Damn,r/Torontoislikethis,butmostlybecausethemodsdon'twantpeoples'feefeesbeinghurtsoit'smostlyakindergartenclass
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NowthatIthinkaboutit,mycampaignannouncementforDemocraticWardCommitteemangarneredabout85upvotesandwasthetop
postbeforebeingremovedbythemodsaroundnoonthatday.Theremovalwasinspiteofnotbreakinganyofthesubreddit'srules.
Apparentlyitwasconsidered"politics"andthereforesuitableforremoval...Whichseemedoddtomeatthetime,butIwastoobusyto
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ThesubredditlookssomuchlikewhatChicagowouldliketheworldtothinkofitratherthanwhatitisreallyliketolivetherefor
many.
Notsurewhatyouaretalkingabout./r/chicagoreflectsverymuchliketherealityofChicago.
They'vehaveamegthreadabouttheLaquanMcDonaldshootingandhavebeenupvotingarticlesaboutsincetheincidentlast
year.
Duringthemayoralelection,thesubredditwaspostingveryproChuystuff.Idon'tthinkRahmwouldallowthatifthecitydoes
indeedhasinfluencein/r/chicago
CheckoutthecommentsectioninanyChicagoTribune/SunTimesarticleandhavefunwiththetoxic,racist,andopportunist
crapthatwouldbepostedin/r/chicagowithoutthemodstheyhaveinplace.
Therealsohasbeendiscussionsonwhethertoremoveskylinepicturepostsbecausethesubredditisaboutcurrenteventsin
Chicagoandshouldnotbelike/r/EarthPorn.
Ithinkthereasonyouseepicturesandtouristpostsonthetopallthetimebecausetheyareusuallytheonlytypesofpoststhat
haveamajoritypositiveconsensusamongsubscribers.Politicalpostingsalwayscontainmixedopinionsandup/downvotescan
unfortunatelyreflectthat.Alsonewsstoriesarealmostalwaysnegative/depressinginChicagoandcantakeanemotionaltollon
residentswhohavetoseeeverynightlynewsdevotethefirst15minsofcoverageonwhodied,gotshot,and/orarrested.Seeing
atouristpostorpicpostisanicechangeofpacefromthemedianormbreakingstory.Keepinmindasyoumayalreadyknow,
mostnewmediumsdonotcorrectlyreflectthedailyeventsofthegeneralcitypopulation.MostpeoplewholiveinChicagodonot
haveanygangtiesandliveinrelativelysafeneighborhoods.Butthat'snotnewsworthy.
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MostcitysubsI'veseenareloadofdownvotesforhonestquestionsornewsstories,andyep,skylinepicstothetopofthepage.
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DefinitelyRahmdownvotingeverythingonyourprofileandtotallynotsaltyChicagoanspissedoffatyouforbadmouthingtheirbeloved
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r/Seattleisnothingbutthis.
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Wellr/torontoisfairlyprejudiced,notunlikethecityactually.
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Youshouldtakeatripto/r/sanfranciscoitstopsjustshortofpostingthehomeaddressesofanypoliticalfigureitdoesn'tlikeand
organizingapitchforkmob.
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Or..theskylineisbeautiful...anditisatoptouristattractionintheUS...Butdon'tmindmewhileIsipmytea..
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SeanConnery:Hedownvotesyourpost?Youdownvotehisprofile.That'stheChicagoway.
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/r/chicagoisprettyracist.NeversawanentirethreadgetlockeddownbecauseofanoverabundanceofracistremarksuntilIwenton
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Mynameis/u/Emperor_Cartagia,I'mthemodof/r/PanamaCity,andIworkfortheGovernment.
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/r/twincitiesseemstohaveavoidedthiscompletely.
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Notjustcities,Ithinklotsofsubredditsarerunbyprfirms.Justlookatthefallout4subreddit,orpcmr,theybothreekofadvertising.
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OrChicagoisjustreallythatboring.
Thenyougoto/r/losangeles...
2postonthesubisthisimagehttp://imgur.com/gallery/saAAiDj
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OneofthegreatthingsaboutlivinginRichmondVirginiaisthatthissortofthingwouldn'tevenoccurtoanyoneinapositionofpower.
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r/washingtondcisdefinitelynotrunbyanyoneassociatedwiththemetro
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/u/honestbleepsisthetopmodof/r/chicagoandhe'stheguyresponsibleforRedditEnhancementSuite.Idon'texactlythinkhe'sashill
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AsaChicagoan,that'sjusthowthepeoplehereare.They'resoftandtheygethurtfeelingseasily.TheythinkthatthecityofChicagois
God'sgifttotheworld.Theyrefusetoadmitthatit'sjustanotherurbanshitholesuckingthelifeoutofitscitizens.
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It'sfarfromthebestcity("Wellthenfuckingleavearghblahblahblah!")butitcanbegreatanditcanbebetter.It'saggravating
sometimestowitnessthesausagebemadebutyoucan'tmakeitbetterwithoutknowing.
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Thinskinnedbastardsdownvotingeverythingfrommyprofile?Rude.Petty.Underhanded.Unprovable.Oddlypersonal.
Notcool.Willupvoteeverythingfromyourprofile...waitaminute...
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[] BeardsuptheWazoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Tacomacouldlearnfromthis.Sofarit'sjustsoontomovetoTacomapeopleaskingforadviceandpeoplewithcatslookingfora300
dollaramonthroomtorent.
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Iwishthiswasthecasefor/r/Winnipeg,lasttimeIwasthereitwasquiteracist.Afewminutesof/r/Winnipegwasenoughtomakeme
believethatMaclean'sdeclaringusthemostracistcityinCanadamightnotbeoffthemark.
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[] knowToTheCamel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Awfullotofcitypagemodschimminginonaburiedpostinabadrepostthread.
Cometothinkofit...yeah,you'respoton.
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/r/chicagoiscomingformyhead,Idreameditwouldendthisway
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[] TheKolbrin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yep..Likedonotevergoon/r/southcarolinaandsayanythingnegativeaboutGov.NikkiHaley.Shecouldaxemurderbabykittensand
thepeoplerunningthesubwouldd/vbrigadeyouforsayingit'sbad.
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That'scausewedon'tlikethatshitandwouldrathernottalkaboutit.
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[] 405freeway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lok/r/LosAngeles
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[] FresnoChunk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idkmostofwhatmycity'ssubdoesisbitchabouttaxisandpraiseuber.
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[] Its_Cory undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ivisitedr/LagunaGTO'suserpage.Iseewhatyoumean...
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[] GreaterBitcoinFool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Oneotherthing...
Doyouknowwhatisworse?WhenItriedtopleadmycasetoyouthatIwasspecificallytryingtoavoidanyraciallyinsensitive
statements,youmutedme.
Isentyouahandfulofrepliestotheban,wonderingwhyIwasbannedandpleadingmycase.(Iwasn'ttryingtobeapestand
wouldhaveaggregatedthemallintoonereplybutyoucannoteditprivatemessagesoncetheyaresent).Andinsteadof
reconsidering,youmutedme.
Youareaterribleterriblemod.
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Dearsir,
Iwouldliketobringtoyourattentionthatin/user/Its_Corycommenthistory,hehasindicatedthatheisaracist.Hepurchaseda
domainnamewitharacialepithetinit.Heisalsoamysoginistandhatesfatpeople.
Pleaseconsiderallofhiscommentsin/r/chicagotoberaciallymotivtedandbanhimasyoudidtome.Idonotknowwhyyoudidn't
lookthroughhiscommenthistoryasyoudidwithmine,butclearlyyoumissedthis.Andclearlyhispastraciallyinsensitive
commentsindicatethatanythinghepostson/r/chicagoisofracistintentandmotivation,andcouldnotbeconstruedashavingany
othermeaningorintentbehindit.
Thankyouforyourattentiontothismatter.
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Ithoughtthatyouwerejustpostingbecauseyoucareaboutpeople.ButIseethatYouhatefatpeopleandyouareamisogynist*
andyouarearacistalso.Imaybelievethattherearedifferencesbetweenraces(becauseclearlytherearesuchasphysical
characteristicslikeskincolor,facialstructure,etc,aswellaspredispositiontocertaingeneticdiseasessuchassicklecellandtay
sachs,andpossiblyintellectualandbehavioraldifferencesthataretabootodiscuss),butI'venevergoneandregistereda
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disgustinghatefilleddomainname.
Clearlyyourcommentaboveisbecauseyouhatewomen,hatefatpeople,andarearacist.AmIright?Becausenoweverything
youhavesaidistaintedwithyourprevioushatefulcomments,andallofyourstatementsclearlymusthavehatefulintent.
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[] LagunaGTO undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Howexactlydoyouseewhathemeans?Iworkforaconstructioncompanyandownanautodetailingbusiness.
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Dearsir,
Iwouldliketobringtoyourattentionthatin/user/Its_Corycommenthistory,hehasindicatedthatheisaracist.Hepurchased
adomainnamewitharacialepithetinit.Heisalsoamysoginistandhatesfatpeople.
Pleaseconsiderallofhiscommentsin/r/chicagotoberaciallymotivtedandbanhimasyoudidtome.Idonotknowwhyyou
didn'tlookthroughhiscommenthistoryasyoudidwithmine,butclearlyyoumissedthis.Andclearlyhispastracially
insensitivecommentsindicatethatanythinghepostson/r/chicagoisofracistintentandmotivation,andcouldnotbe
construedashavinganyothermeaningorintentbehindit.
Thankyouforyourattentiontothismatter.
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Oneotherthing...
Doyouknowwhatisworse?WhenItriedtopleadmycasetoyouthatIwasspecificallytryingtoavoidanyraciallyinsensitive
statements,youmutedme.
Isentyouahandfulofrepliestotheban,wonderingwhyIwasbannedandpleadingmycase.(Iwasn'ttryingtobeapestand
wouldhaveaggregatedthemallintoonereplybutyoucannoteditprivatemessagesoncetheyaresent).Andinsteadof
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[] Its_Cory undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iseethat.Ididn'tmeantosayIagreewithhim.Iinitiallyjustwantedtoprovidealinkforpeopletoseewhathe'stalking
about.ThefirstpostInoticedwasyoutalkingaboutyourreasoningforbanningauserformakinga"racist"comment.I
immediatelyclassifiedyouasahardassandpostedthatcomment.Butafterfurtherinvestigation,IwithdrawwhatIsaid.
However,Idostillthinkyou'reahardass.Imean,youbannedsomeonewhenyoumistookquestionablyassumedaphrase
tobearacialslur.
(Nothingtodowiththetopic,butneedstobesaid)Inthecontextofpoliceshootingablackmanwieldingaknifewhowashigh
onPCP,hereferredtotheshootingas"puttingdowntherabidpet."Myfirstinterpretationwouldnotberacial,butIcouldsee
howitcouldbe.Nevertheless,ifIwereamod,Iwouldnotbansomeonesolelyonthatonecomment.Inthissituation,where
theremarkwastoovaguetotellifitwasintendedtoberacist,Iwouldatleastspendafewsecondslookingthrough
u/greaterbitcoinfool'scommenthistory,whereyouwouldseenosignthatheisracist.thatheisprobablyaKKKmember...
Wasjustabouttopostthiscommentbeforedoublechecking...okyeshe'sveryracist.
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Ithoughtthatyouwerejustpostingbecauseyoucareaboutpeople.
ButIseethatYouhatefatpeopleandyouareamisogynistandyouarearacistalso.Imaybelievethatthereare
differencesbetweenraces(becauseclearlytherearesuchasphysicalcharacteristicslikeskincolor,facialstructure,
etc,aswellaspredispositiontocertaingeneticdiseasessuchassicklecellandtaysachs,andpossiblyintellectualand
behavioraldifferencesthataretabootodiscuss),butI'venevergoneandregisteredadisgustinghatefilleddomain
namewitharacialepithetinitandintentionallyhidingbehindtheDNSprovider'sprivateregistration.
Clearlyyourcommentaboveisbecauseyouhatewomen,hatefatpeople,andarearacist.AmIright?Becausenow
everythingyouhavesaidistaintedwithyourprevioushatefulcomments,andallofyourstatementsclearlymusthave
hatefulintent.
Ohyesyouareveryracist.
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Youshouldseetherulesofthemegathreadhepostedthecommentin.Ifhepostedthatanywhereelseinthesub,it
wouldhavejustbeenremoved.Wehadstricterguidelinesonthemegathreadinpreparationforbrigading.
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Oneotherthing...
Doyouknowwhatisworse?WhenItriedtopleadmycasetoyouthatIwasspecificallytryingtoavoidany
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raciallyinsensitivestatements,youmutedme.
Isentyouahandfulofrepliestotheban,wonderingwhyIwasbannedandpleadingmycase.Ihonestlythoughtit
wasbecauseIpostedtoomanycommentstotheforum,andIwasn'ttryingtobeapestandwouldhave
aggregatedthemallintoonereplybutyoucannoteditprivatemessagesoncetheyaresent.Andinsteadof
Youwentoutlookingforreasonstobanpeople,andifyouweren'tsureyouwentthroughpostinghistoryjustso
youcantakepreviouscommentstotwistsomeone'smeaningtowhateveryouneededtobanthem.Andthenyou
ignoredthemwhentheyaskedyouwhytheywerebanned.
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Allmodslookatpostinghistorytomakedeterminationsonusers.That'swhatbeingamodis.
Pleaseactuallymodasubredditbeforeyouactlikeyouhaveanyideaofwhatyou'retalkingabout.
Haveagoodone.I'mnolongerrespondingtoyou.Youareallaboutdrama.
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[] ChiTown1970 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Frank,thisjustisn'ttrue.YoutempbannedmeforsomethingYOUdeemedracistwhenitactually
wasn'tandmycommenthistorydoesn'tsupportmebeingracist.THENyoupermabannedmewhenI
calledyouFrank,accusingmeofDOXXING...smh
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I'mnolongerrespondingtoyou.Youareallaboutdrama.
Soyourefusetoadmityoumadeamistakeandremovetheban.Thisiswhyyouareaterrible
mod.
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IreferredtoapersonwhowasrunningamokinthecitystreetswithaknifeandhighonPCPasa"rabiddog".And
thatistakentobearaciststatement.
Theonlyracististheonewhoreadsthatasbeingracist.
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[] BrahmsEmanuel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youguysarebothright.Lagunaisaterriblemod,butyouarealsoaracisttroll.
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Justgoaway,dude.Seriously.
Itwasonlyatemporarybanandyouareonsomehellrampage.Youseriouslyneedtochillout.Itwould
haveonlyremainedtemporarytoountilyoudecidedtoabuseRedditandviolateitssiterulesby
circumventingthebanwithalternateaccounts.
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Iamnotgoingtogoaway.Youmadeabanbecauseyouwereoutlookingtomakeanythingberacist
thatyoucould.AndwhenIaskedyouwhy,youmutedmeandpermanentlybannedme.
No,Iwillnotgoawayuntilyouadmityoumadeabadcallandremovetheban.
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Removetheban,Frank.
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Removetheban,Frank.
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Frankdidthesamethingtome.
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[] bigshmoo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/sanfranciscoisrunbyatechiemafiawhohateactivistsandcabdrivers(atleastthatwhatthecomplaintsinourmodmailsay)
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[] smkaemp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ChicagoisnhellonEarth.There'sareasonitsreferredtoasChiraq.JustGooglechiraqshootingandyouwillfindvideosofthesegang
membersdrivingthroughcitiesshootingrandompeople.Itscrazythatthemediadoesn'tcovermostofthis.Chicagoisawarzone.
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[] mdmayy_bb undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yagottagetoutmore,buddy.LifelongChicagoanandfemalehere,I'veneverhadaproblemandIliveinthemiddleofthecity.
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[] the_disco_pimp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
uhnoitsnotyoufuckinretard
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[] Hawkeye1867 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FromChicago,followr/chicagoandIcanconfirmthatthisistrue.However,thepeoplethatbrowsereddit,andfollowr/chicagoprobably
allhavefairlysimilarpoliticalopinions.Nottomentionalotofwhatwehearaboutonthenewsisshootings,murder,racism,andhow
noonecanstopit...Notthatitsstoppedredditbefore,butwhytryandsolveallthatstuffhere?
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[] ethanlan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wut?Dudepoliticaldiscussionisrampantonthatsub.AsalongtimesubscriberI'vedefinelyseenitfromallsides.
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[] midri undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irun/r/tulsaandI'maboutasfarfromacityemployeeasonecouldbe.
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[] ThermidorianReaction undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theycan'ttakesubstantivepoliticaldiscussionbutphotosoftheskylineandtouristsgivingtheirthanksarealwaysontop.Theydo
alsokeepoutalotoftheracismthatwouldberampantifitwasn'tcensored,though.
Youjustdescribedeverysubreddit.Notjustcityones.Allofthem.
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[] TedsEmporiumEmporium undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Checkout/r/Minneapolissometime.
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[] cranberrysaus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MostlocalsubredditsI'veseenareashitshowofbickering.
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AllofredditpostsaremadebyPRfirms.Andtheyhavepreferentialinsideconnectionstogettothefrontpage.
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[] CORRECTION_sIR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisismoretruefor/r/televisionand/r/movies.Thinkabouthowmuchstudiosandnetworks(thewholesupplychain,really)haveto
gainbyswayingpublicopinion.Therearecertaincommentsthatreadexactlylikeanad.Itwouldn'tsurprisemeifeveryonehadtheir
owndepartmentfullofpeoplepatrollingcertainwebsitesinordertopromotetheirmaterialwhiletryingtoshutupanyonewhodoesn't.
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Yep,Iwastrickedintomovingtoanareabasedoffofreadingtheredditsubforthatarea,theglowingreviews,andaskingontheciro
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data.org(orw/eit'scalled)forums.
Goingbacknow,IseethatbothsubsandtheforumsaremostlyranbyPRtypeofpeople.
Thishasreallyfuckedmylifeup,badly.We'llseethough,maybeit'llworkoutandI'lllikeithere...orsomethingpositivewillhappen
here...
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[] Badgerisbest undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sabunchoffuckingbullshit.
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[] mightytwin21 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/desmoinesseemstobeprettygood.
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[] just_the_tip_mrpink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thereasonr/ChicagolookslikeaPRwebiste,isbecsusenearlyallthepostersaretransplantswholiveonthenorthsideandLoop.Of
courseitwon'tcoverissuesonthesouthandwestside,whenmostpostershaveneverevenbeenthere.
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[] Lothar_Ecklord undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/NYCdoesn'tmakeanysensetome
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Nah,/r/sydneybitchesaboutSydneyallthetime.
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[] R_TOKAR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asafrequentcontributorat/r/Chicago,Icanassureyouthattheracistswhopost,arenotevenfromChicago.Wegetbrigadedallthe
timebyoutsiders.
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[] thehighercritic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'salsopossiblethatpoliticalpostsarecontroversialwhileskylinepicsareenjoyedbyall.
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ThistheoscomrazorconclusionItendtohavebutafteryearsonthesubIjustgetthisfeeling.Buteh,Ijustgavetoletitgo:it'schi
town.
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[] Thrgd456 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Orlandoiscoolaf.Ithinkit'srunbyhotties.
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[] Skyblue_Aardvark undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotevenahugeleapthough.IfIwereworkingforacityandneededtodriveuptourism,oneofthefirstideasI'dhaveistomake
asubreddit,ifitdidn'texist.
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[] designgoddess undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IloveChicagoandwillupvoteeverynicephotoandpositivecomment.Justabout.IdonotworkforthecityorinPR.Ithinkthesubis
filledwithmostlynicepeoplewhoalsolovethecity.
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[] unicornbloods undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
r/Torontoisdefinitelyreal,haha
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[] Old13oy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmustnotvisit/r/washingtondcmuch...ToomanyracistsandsnobsforanyonetohaveactuallyapprovedthisisaPRplan.
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[] GaffTape undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Surelyyou'rejokingabout/r/chicago.Istoppedvisitingthatsubredditjustbecauseoftheovermoderatedbullshitandthegeneral
attitudesofthosethatlurkthere.Youcan'tevenpostaphotoofanythingunlessit'sFriday.Touristsdroppingbyandsayingthanks
alwayshadmyupvotebecauseitwasn'ttheusualcrapofpeoplecomplainingaboutnonissues(liketheCTAbeing3minuteslate,or
notbeingabletosmokepot24/7everybuildingtheywalkinto).IfthecityhasaPRfirmrunningthatsubreddit,they'redoingaterrible
job.
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Youshouldtryitagain.Thatimagepostruleisnolongerinplaceandalthemodswereoustedandreplaced.
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[] GaffTape undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PerhapsIwill,thanks!
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Moseyonoverto/r/Charlotte.Theydesignategovernmentalrepresentatives,likeus,andtheconversationstheregetprettypoignant
sometimes.We'vefoundgreatrestaurants,insightonimpendingcityordinancesandwonderfulstoriesthathappeninourownschools
thatwewouldn'thaveknownabout.
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[] antonymous undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theydoalsokeepoutalotoftheracismthatwouldberampantifitwasn'tcensored,though.
CheckoutanysubfromMN(/r/minnesota/r/TwinCities/r/Minneapolis),especiallynowthatMPDkilledsomeonetodisproveyour
theory.Plentyofracismtogoaround!
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[] maowsers93 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatexplainswhy/r/austinissuchahellholewhileothercitysubsaregenerallypleasant.Thatsubisclearlynotrunbyaprfirm.
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[] is_this_wifi_organic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haha,if/r/NYCisrunbysomeoneinthedeBlasioadministration,thatpersoniscommittingcareersuicide.
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[] XtremeGoose undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whybother?Whowouldgotoasubreddittoseeiftheyshouldvisitthatcity?Seemslikeabigwasteofmoneyandveryembarrassing
ifdiscovered.Likemostconspiracytheorists,youreallyhaven'tthoughtthisonethrough.
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[] _Honu_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthink/r/Detroitcouldbelievablydisguiseallthegoingsoninthecity.
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[] Maxpowr9 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Bostonisprettygood.Theremaybesome"insiders"therebutit'salotoffunifyou'realocal.
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[] AntipodalBurrito undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustgota72hourbanfortheusingthewords'Black'and'Oppression'inatotallynonracistwaywhiletherearecurrentlyOppressed
Blackmalesprotestinginthestreets.
Thismakessense.
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[] PEANUT_BUTTER_AND_JE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youdon'tneedtoworryaboutthatin/r/vancouver.It'soneofthemostnegativesubs.Therewasactuallyapostacouplemonthsago
wheretherewasaguywhowaslike"I'mthinkingofvisitingVancouver,butafterreadingallthenegativecommentshereI'mnotso
sure."
Oh,andthebannerisawful,yetsurprisinglyaccurate.
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[] Pointwest418 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Austin'scitymanagerssemiregularlypostin/r/Austin,andmonitorit(inagoodway)
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[] Ysmildr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/seattleisanexception.Everyonethererailsonthecity.
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Isthatreallyaconspiracythough?Itmakesalotofsensetome,almostseemslogical,butit'snotexactlyforbidden,isit?
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[] stevestgermain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mamodfor/r/DetroitandIcantellyouthisisnottrue,atleastforoursub.Anythinggoes.
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[] BonerPorn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ibelievethisbecausetheyallseemtoberunbycompetentmoderators.Theyallseemtohavewonderfullookingbanners,theyall
havehavewellcensoreddiscussion.Imean,you'dthinkatleastafewofthemwouldhavemoderatorsthatdon'tgiveafuck.
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[] Galaxyhiker42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/neworleansisdefinitelynot.
Ourfrontpageisfilledwithinformationaboutshootingsandtouristaretrolledtohellandback.
Weactuallyhadtosetupanautomodtoremovetheirpostandtellthemtopostinthetrollfree/r/Asknola.(Trollsgetbanned)
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[] elkanor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifr/Tampagetsmuchbigger,I'maskingthemodstodothatbecauseit'sbrilliant.Wegetneardailypostsfrom"visting,lookingfor
'hiddengems'"and"movinghere,wheretolive"withnootherinformation.Likefuckingwhackamole.
Doyouguyshaveacirclejerkorspoofsub?
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[] Sonnington undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatmakessomuchsense.IaskedtheSeattlesubhowthe15dollaranhourminimumwagewasdoingandtheygotsuperdefensive,
switchedthesubjecttomyimproperknowledgeofthegeography,Igotdownvotedtooblivion,andtheyneveransweredthequestion.
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[] enormousfuckhead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wannaknowsomethingthatdoesn'tmakesense?
Howafewminutesagotherewasthiswholeotherdiscussionabout/r/seattlewhichnowonlyavailableatthislink.
ActuallywhenIfirstsawthatthecommentwasmissing,Isawitwith"[removed]"butnowit'sapparentlybackifyouhaveadirect
link.
ProbablyreddithassomebugwhereSeattlerelatedcommentsmysteriouslygainphasing.Iguessthesethingsjusthappen!
Thiscommenttoo
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Ilookedatyourpoststotryandfindit(andthatgraduatedvotingisabad,badidea)butIcan'tfindit.Didyoudeleteit?
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[] Lemonade_IceCold undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/sandiegoisreallyfuckingchill.Althoughitseemslikewe'rekindatornonthechargersissuern
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Ohmygod,youguysgotsnow!!I'msojealous.Nexttimecanyoupolitelyaskitfollowthe15northabout40minutes?:D
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Aslongasitdoesn'tgetonthe405itshouldgettowhereyouwantit
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[] lionday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/sandiegoisreallyfuckingchill.
Exceptwhenpeoplelookingtomovehereaskaboutrentorjobprospects.
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well,inourdefense,everythingisfuckingexpensive,soifanythingwe'rehelpingoutotherpeople
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[] willpauer undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthatwerethecase,mostofthepoliticaldissidentswouldbebannedfrom/r/phoenix.
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[] maistir_aisling undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Irunthesubformystatecapitalandallwehaveispeoplelookingforweeddealersandonedickheadwhokeepspostinglinkstohis
blog:|
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[] rata_rasta undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
OnthesamenoteI'msurethatbigcorporationshavepeopleworkingonsocialnetworksandforumstodiscusscontroversialtopics.
Therearealotof"redditors"thatpopupinfavorofMonsatoeverytimethereissomediscussionaboutthemasanexample.
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Manyofthe/r/sciencemodsareresearcherswhohavegrantfundingfromMonsanto.
Rememberthiswhenreadingthatsubreddit.
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[] TubbyFlounder undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/AtlantamodsthreatenedtodeleteathreadtheotherdayaboutanupcomingBernieSandersrally,whenpeopleinthecomments
werehavingadiscussionabouthisideas.
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[] firearmed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Fuckingthankyou.I'vewonderedwhyanypostaskingaboutthecityoractuallyprovidinganycontenttothesubredditisinstantly
downvoted.Butpicturesofthesameskylinewith"Chicago,Ireallyloveyourcity,thankyou!"litterthefrontpage.It'sridiculous.
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/r/chicagoisjustfullofassholes.It'salwaysbeenlikethat.It'snothingthat'ssurprising.Mostquestionsthataredownvotedhave
beenaskedatleast50300times.
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[] literallol undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IKNEW/u/dihydrogenmonoxidewasafilthypolitician.
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[] Corporate_Overlords undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Not/r/stlouis.ThatsubmakesmefeellikeIwalkedintoaKlanmeetingwhenIlookatit.Holyshit.
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[] newstartled undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Chicagoisthemostracistsubredditinnsubscribedto.It'sallprettycovertthough,orthemodswithdeleteit.Alotofphraseslike
"them"or"thosepeople".
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[] MargretTatchersParty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thathasbeentheexactcriteriaofwhatwe'vebeenbanningforintheprotests/video/policemegathread.We'vestatedthattherule
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Ithinkyouguysaredoingagreatjobkeepingtheracistsatbay.Keepupthegood,work.
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[] DigDugged undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifthisistrue,thenthecounterargumentwouldbe/r/Atlanta.It'sracismcentraloverthere.Ifyouhateblackpeopleandwanttoget
upvotedforit,headonoverto/r/Atlanta.
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[] NotARealAtty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thanksfortheheadsup
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[] PennyPinchingJew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ijustchecked/r/chicagoandthereisabunchofpoliticaldiscussiononthefrontpage.Whatkindofpoliticaldiscussionareyoulooking
foronacitysubredditexactly?
Mostpoliticaldebateonredditisjusttoxicideologicalbullshitanyways.I'msure/r/chicagogetsraidedbyrightwingersallthetime
becauseit'swhereObamaisfrom.
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Noticehowyousay"mostpoliticaldebateonredditisjusttoxicidealogicalbullshit"thengoontomakeafalsetoxicidealogical
blanketstatementagainstthepartyyoudon'tlike,onreddit.
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[] farfle10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HiscommentisBS.Thereareplentyofdissentingopinionsinthatsubonallaspectsrelatedtothecity.Therealsoisalotofpride
andpositivity,butit'sdefinitelynotengineered.That'showalotofthepeoplereallyare.Lotsofpeopleareallaboutbeingfrom
Chicago.
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[] freqs123 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Modsseemstobeoverdoingtheirjobs:http://i.imgur.com/UXTiehR.png
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sighThisguyreallyhasabonerforspammingthispicture.
Heisaracistwhocalledablackpersona"rabiddog"andthencreatednumerousaccountsforbanevasion.Heistryingto
pitchapositivenarrativeofhimtogainsympathyandlabelusas"censorsing"discussion.
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Idofeellikeitgetsbrigadedmorethansomeothersubs,hadn'tconsideredtheObamaangle.Localcitypoliticstendtogetburied,
ifsomethingistendingnationallythenyesofcoursechicagoishappytoparticipate."Wearejustasmuchofaworldclasscityas
NYC!IlivedinbothforlongtimeandIactuallylikeChicagobetter!"
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[] Mynameisnotdoug undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Duringthemayoralelections,/r/chicagowasChewieCentral.I'mnotsurewhatOPistalkingabout.
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[] GalaxyCascade undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wasn'tDocGonzothebiggestantiRahm/proChuyspammer?IdownvotedhimbecauseIdidn'twanttosee20poorlywritten
articlesaboutwhyChuyisthesecondcomingandRahmisliterallyworsethanhitler.
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NoIwasnot.IwroteonerantthedaybeforetheelectionwhenitwasapparentRahmwasgoingtowinusingtheattack
of"Chuywillraiseyourpropertytaxesandhasnoplan"whichwastotalbullshitofanattackconsideringthatisexactly
howithaspannedoutforRahmaswell.
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[] tyrico undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatkindofpoliticaldiscussionareyoulookingforonacitysubredditexactly?
Probablyoneaboutcitypolitics...
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Don'tforgetthosewhofeelliketheyneedtoremindusthatourgunpolicyisn'tverypopular.Alsohowwe'reinawarzone.Iforgot
towearmybodyarmortodayandItiedtwice..damn.
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[] superlativenative undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Tempeisn'tlisteningtoyourbullshit
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[] ClittyLitter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Haveyoubeento/r/austin??Thecommentsonthatsubwouldscareanytouristaway.Somuchsalt,it'sunreal.MeanestsubI'm
subscribedto,butIlikeit.:)Itbalancesoutthefakenice/peacefulyuppiebullshitoneencountersIRLinthistown.Bunchafaux
buddhistentitledxenophobesdownhere.
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[] massiswicked undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/bostonhassomeofthatsometimestoo.Butwhy?Whydoyougoonasubredditaboutwhereyoulive/livedandjustdownvote
andshitoneveryone.
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[] bringing_not_back undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
anothersimilaritybetweenPortlandandAustin
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/u/careless,themoderatorfor/r/seattle,isaparticularlyshittyhumanbeing.
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[] careless undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
You'veneverpostedonthatsubusingthisaccount.
So....what,precisely,didIdototickyouoffsomuchthatyou'veresortedtonamecallingonaSaturdaynight?
I'mfeelingill,sothat'smyexcuse.
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ah,sorry,iwillrefinemyremarkstoexcludenamecalling.
/u/careless,themoderatorof/r/seattle,isanimpericallyandmeasurablypoorsumofwhatahumanshouldbe.Heorshe
seemstohavezeroideahowfreespeechworks,andislikely,inthisposter'sopinion,ashillforsomegovernmentruntourism
siteforSeattle,asashiningexampletokeeppeopleawayfromtheentirePacificNorthwest.
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[] ExtraNoise undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
lol/r/Seattle.ThiswouldexplainaLOT.
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[] enormousfuckhead undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
jumpsoutwithinminutesofbeingmentionedandtakesadefensivestance
Tobefair,theentirecityanditssubredditarecompletelyfulloflittlebitchasses,sothisbehavioristhenorm.
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Sorrytoburstyourbubble,butno,neithermyselfnortheothermodsof/r/SeattlearePRfirmemployeesormunicipalemployees
atleast,asfarasIknow.
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Buthey,enjoythattinfoilhat.I'msureit'squitestylish.
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[] ExtraNoise undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Buthey,enjoythattinfoilhat.I'msureit'squitestylish.
Ijustsaiditwouldexplainalot,notthatIbelievethereissomelargerconspiracyactuallyatwork.Asofrightnow,Ihave
absolutelynocluewhyyoumoderate/r/Seattlethewaythatyoudo.DocGonzo'stheorywouldatleastgivesomemeaningto
thewaythingsarebeinghandled.
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Lotsofpeoplehavebeenbannedfromtheparentsubforminorinfractionsandtheheadmod(careless)thinkswe're
allouttogetthem.
Andyet...whenIasksomeonewhoisbeinganinsultingjerk,theywon'treplyanddeletetheircomment.
Asfor"outtogethim"I'vehadmypersonalinformationmaliciouslypostedonthatsubredditmoretimesthanIcan
count.
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Ihaveabsolutelynocluewhyyoumoderate/r/Seattlethewaythatyoudo.
I'vebeenmorethanforthcomingwithanswerswhenquestionshavebeenasked.Youjustdon'tliketheanswer,and
so...conspiracytheoriesandasubredditfullofjerkswholiketocallmehitlerandpostmypersonalinformation.
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[] Wooly_Willy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whatracismisbeingcensoredonther/chicagosub?
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[] wootfatigue undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theirdefinitionofracismisliterallymentioningrace.
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Foronethread,nottheentiresubreddit.Thereasoningisduetomassivebrigading.
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Awfulracistshavebeencominginsinceapoliceshootingfromwhitecoponablackteenager.SimilartoFergusonstuff.Comimg
fromallpartsofreddit.
Modsjustdon'twanttodeletewithanybullshit.Anyoutsiderorracistregularposterimmediatelygetstheirthreadnuked.It'sbeen
prettyrestrictivebutmostofwhat'sbeingdeletedisprettyawful.
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[] 54321bang undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/Chicagohashadalongstandingpolicyofnottoleratingblatantlyraciststuff.OnbalanceIthinkit'sagoodthing,butit
makesitdifficulttodiscusssometopicslikeSpikeLee'snewmovie.
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[] DeathToAllLife undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ya,and/r/ComcastisfullofPRshitheadsthatdefendtheworstcompanyinAmerica
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[] Guyon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
also/r/Verizon
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[] jhc1415 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
eh,redditreallydoesexaggeratejusthowbadcomcastis.Therearemuchworsecompaniesoutthere.
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[] Ferfrendongles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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Whywouldracismberampantthere?
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[] Jellooooo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Rampantsegregationdatingbacktodecadesago.
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ButReddit'smostlywhite,andIwouldimaginethatifabunchofwhitedude'sonReddittalkedaboutsegregation,theywould
beagainstit.AmImissingsomething,though?
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[] tiny_hands undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ehhhh,ifyouspendalittlemoretimeonreddititmightmakesensetoyou.
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Ooooh,areyoutalkingaboutthe"FACTSCAN'TBERACIST"guys?But..WhyChicagoinparticular?Istherea
bigracethingthere?
IswearI'mjustcurious,andItriedgoogling"chicagoracism",butalas.JustalotofnonsenseI'mnotreallywilling
tosiftthrough.
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[] the_khajiit_of_lies undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doesthatmeanr/BostoncontrolledbyBethesdaatthemoment?
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[] donjulioanejo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ontheotherhand,r/Vancouverispeopletearingthecitycouncilanewone,andmostpostsnearthetopisbitchingaboutrealestate
prices.
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[] brlito undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
...ispeopletearingthecitycouncilanewone...
...peoplebitchingandcitycouncilnotreallyhearingitbecausethey'retoobusyatwork...
FTFY
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[] SAT4NSLILHELPER undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ifr/Vancouverwasdesignedtoshillit'sdoingaremarkablybadjob.
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[] harrij undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsalotlike/r/Edmonton.
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[] vancouver_boy undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
andthatbannerisfantasticallyfugly
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[] grandwahs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thelongerit'stherethemoreIenduplikingit.Ijusthopeitkeepsongettingmoreandmorecrapastimegoesby.
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Mygod,justspent10minutesthere,yourontosomething
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Ibrowsed/r/chicagoonetime.NowI'mded.
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[] sssasssafrasss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YoualmosthadmethereuntilIrememberedthatmostgovernmentemployeesarebabyboomers.
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Couldn'tsomeonemakean/r/undergroundchicagoor/r/actualchicagoandthe/r/chicagomodscoulddonothingtocensorthisother
sub?
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Whatyoucallcensorship,wecallkeepingtheawfulracistlsatbay.Isubscribeandpostfrequentlytor/ChicagoandIMO,themods
aredoingagreatjobofmakingsurewearen'tbrigadesbyhorriblepeople.Thatmaybecensorship,butitsoneweasasubstand
behind.
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[] revkev151 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hah,undergroundChicagoisasubforrelativelyunknownhiphopinthecity.I'msubbed,butthere'salmostneveranydiscussion
ontheposts
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[] tibby_throwaway undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/chicagoistoorampantlyracisttoberunbyaPRfirm.Maybebythecity,butnotaPRfirm.
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/r/milwaukeeisreal.Wereallydotalkaboutdrinkingthatmuch.
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[] Fermorian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Gfwenttomarquette.Canconfirm.Somanygreatbreweries/brewerytours!
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[] TheBenno undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Damnright
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Man,fuckthoseorangelines
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[] wuvwuv undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Formermodof/r/madisonwihere.Nottrue..butmaybethingschangedsinceIleft?
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That'saprettytinysubcomparedto/r/chicago.I'msubbedtoboth,Madisontosmallformostofthesameproblemsofthesubreddit
theChicagoonegers.
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[] redditor1983 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobefair,youhavetorememberthatReddititselfdoesn'tnecessarilyhaveabroaddemographic.NoteveryoneinChicagoison
/r/chicago,nordotheyevenknowwhatRedditis.
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[] deadwisdom undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobemorefair,/u/DocGonzo13iscompletelyfullofshit.Hejustmadeupwithnoevidenceorevenapersuasiveargument.Reddit
justlikestobelieveinthissortofbs.
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[] BkcetS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/chicagoisterrible
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[] tripreports undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PeoplejustbitchaboutrentintheBayAreaones.
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Itwouldn'tbethebayareaifpeopledidn'tbitch
Source:/r/sanfranciscoand/r/bayareamoderator
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[] tripreports undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude,wejustneedtobuildmorehousing.
God,I'msomuchmoreenlightenedthanallthoseNIMBYs.
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AslongasthereenoughUber's,artisanalcoffeeshops,andrestaurantstoservicethehousing,andaplaceforthe
googlebustostop.
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[] gimpwiz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Butseriously,DAEthinkweneedmorehousing?
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[] iEzhik undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yes,butI'malsogonnaprotestanyreasonablesuggestionstoimprovethesituation.
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/r/losangelesislikethisplusamillionpicturesofsunsetsandtrafficjams
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[] mithikx undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
greetingsfrom/r/sanfrancisco
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[] Evsala undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whichismoreorlesswhathappensinperson.
Wealsocomplainabouttraffic?
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[] youlleatitandlikeit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'snowaythisisthecasefor/r/philly
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[] crimenently undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfavouritePhillystoryisthateveryyearthePhillieswouldhaveanEasteregghuntonthefieldbeforethegamefor
underprivilegedkidsandthefanswouldboothekidswhodidn'tfindany.
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[] mutantturkey undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
residentformermodfulltimertrollcheckingin
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[] Scout_022 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
everytimeIneedalittlebitofcasualracismIheadonoverto/r/baltimore
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[] Bevatron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ha.Asoneoftheformermodsof/r/philadelphiaIwasgoingtocommentonbeingleftout.Wekeeptheasshatterythrivingover
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there.
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[] brantspankingnew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notabigcity,notthecaseatallforWinnipeg.
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[] gk128 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
TIL5thlargestcityinUnitedStatesisnotabigcity.
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Maybebrantspankingnewmeantsomethingalongthelinesof,"It'snotabigcity(Winnipeg),butit'salsonotthecasefor
Winnipegeither".
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[] scotty269 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IthinkWoody'ssponsorsit.
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[] Simon_the_Cannibal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WedogetWoody'sgravy.
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[] I_divided_by_0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'vegotabigwoodyinmypocketforyour.
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[] alwaysdownvotescats undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Seriously.Iseeapostlikethiseveryweek."HeyI'mvisitingphillyfortheweekendwhataresomegreatlocalspotstograba
drink?"
"Woody's"
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[] scotty269 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
EverynowandthenIcanseeit'sfunny,butthepeopleinthesubaredownrightobnoxious.
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[] Mister__Crowley undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Stopcomplainingyoupussy.
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[] ANGRY_PHILA_RESIDENT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
YEAH,MILLENNIALFUCKBAG.
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[] WaveBirdController undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ilikewhenweallgettogetheronothersubreddits.
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No.We'reprettylawless.Naactuallywe'rejustsmartasses.
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Sometimesminuseventhesmartpart.:p
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[] Iustis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah/r/Philadelphiaisprettyharsh/forlackofabetterword"real"
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[] Prancemaster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'sbecausewehaveaverylowtolerancefordumbbullshitpoststhatcouldbeeasilyresearchedviagoogle.
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[] Alchemistmerlin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ehthe"edge"tothephillysubismostlysuburbanitesactinglikeshitstainsbecausethat'showtheythink"real"Philadelphians
aresupposedtoact.
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[] Cokrates undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IrememberwhenImovedfromFloridatoNewYorkbycarwithmymom.WehadtostopforgasinPhiladelphiaatlike6AM
andtherewhereswattrucksandpolicecarsalloverthestreetacrossfromthereststopdoingsomesortofdrugraid.This
wasbackin2003soIdon'tknowifsomecrazybignewsshitwasgoingdownbutitgavemeareallybadimpressionofPhilly
asyoucanimagine.
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Imovedherein2008anditseemslikeit'ssafernow.Inevitablytherearegoingtobecrimesinabigcity&youjust
happenedtodrivebywhensomethingwasgoingdown.IfeelsaferinPhillythanIdidinWashingtonDC,althoughI
supposeit'snotsayingmuch.WhetherornotNYCissafer(andagainthisishighlyneighborhoodspecific)theoverall
moodinPhiladelphiaisjustsodifferent.BothDCandNYCseemwaymorehighstrungpeoplemovealotfaster.In
Philadelphiaitseemsmorelaidback.I'dbeoverstressedinDCorNYC.
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SoisOKCandAustin.Matterfact,IbelievepeopleinAustinwouldputahitoutonaPRfirmforpullingthatshit.Theynoshit
keepitrealrealthere.
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[] CaptKrag undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Youmeanracistasfuck.Cuzr/Phillyisracistasfuck
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IfeellikeitdependsonwhereyouliveinPhilly.Germantown/MtAiryareaseemstobeagoodmixofdifferentgroups&
theyseemtogetalong.
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[] mvpkid22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Respect.
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[] underwaterpizza undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JustlikePhilly.
WhichalsohappenstobewhyIlovePhilly.
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[] livelikealesbian undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Peopleareharshthere?I'mthinkingofmovingtherenextyear.
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[] muzzyb3ar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearetwotypesofcities:Philadelphia,andgofuckyourself.
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[] ANGRY_PHILA_RESIDENT undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GOFUCKYOURSELF.
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[] muzzyb3ar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ha!Appropriateusername
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[] 17Hongo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FromaBritishmanwhovisitedPhilly,Icanhonestlysayit'sliketheLiverpoolofAmerica.
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[] lizard450 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shutup...fromPhilly.
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Letsjusthopeyou'renotarobot
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[] hellomondays undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
tobefair,thesamethingwouldhappentoanyhitchhikergoingthroughphilly.
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[] doug3465 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wekeepthatjawnonehunna.
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[] BMKR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Realsasrealcanbe.
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[] kyleyankan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jawnasjawncanbe
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[] BMKR undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
JawnisawordthatImostcertainlydon'tuseenough.Iusejabroniindailyconversationthough.
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[] awesome357 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsentirelypossiblebutitsalsoequallypossiblethatpeoplededicatedenoughtomodsuchasubredditcareenoughabouttheir
citythattheyalsowantittolookidelic.
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Idyllic
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[] TheFuckNameYouWant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Dude,it'sspelleditalic.
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[] fivestringsofbliss undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Italian
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r/LouisvilleisarunningSodosopaad
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[] OprahNoodlemantra undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Welcomehome
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[] LouisvilleXV undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hipsterheaven.
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[] cheetobob5102 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FinallyseeLouisvillementionedonreddit...andit'sforthis.IgiveupKentucky
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IttookalifethreateningexplosiontogetmeintoKentucky,nowthatI'msettledotwilltakeanotheronetogetmeout.
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[] 15rthughes undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Heyafellowlouisvillian!
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Hello.
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Louisvillenativehere,everythirdtopicis'visiting/movingtoLouisville!WhereshouldIlive/visit?'Followedbytheusual'eastendis
thebestendeverythingelsesucks',thenpeoplesayinghowtheeastendiswhitepeopleheavenanditsucks.Thesametenbars
arealwaysrecommended.Atleastonceaweekthereisa'omgwhat'sthatboomingsoundin(areaofcity)?!',onceamonthwe
postatruckgettingcannedat3rdandWinkler.
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[] misskass undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soundsexactlylike/r/melbourne,includingtheloudnoisesposts.
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Yuuuuuuup
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[] MidWestMind undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
I'mnewtoLouandmadeafewposts.SomeonewastryingtocramTodo502orwhateverit'scalledasifthatsitehad
everything.
IfoundtheZanzabarownmyownafewweeksago.
Overall,Ilovethecity.I'velivedinalotofcities(NYC,PhoenixandmorethesizeofLouisville)andbyfarmyfavorite.
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Onceamonth?That'saprettyconservativeestimate.Lastmonththerewerelikethreeinoneweek
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Thatwasagloriousweek.
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[] LampPostMonster undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
SoldoursoultoGillHolland.
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[] chleblove undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Comesee...thevillaatnewlu
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[] velocity92c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
alwaysbeenkindofsurprisedhowdeadthatsubis,consideringhowlouisvilleisnowlikethe16thbiggestcityinthecountry,you'd
thinkwe'dpullmorethan9kreaders.
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[] PM_ME_YOUR_TRUCK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
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BecauseLouisvilleisn'tthe16thlargestcity.Morelike3045thdependingonhowyoumeasure.
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[] velocity92c undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Sincethecityandcountymergedin2003,findingaccuratestatsonthisishardsincemostsitesonlyincorporatethecity
population,whichisincorrect.LouisvilleandJeffersonCountymergedandareconsideredoneentitynow.Hereisa
sourcethatshowsourpopulation@760,026,whichwouldrankusasthe18thlargestcityintheUS.
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[] LordStrogar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WehaveafuckingWholeFoodsSharon
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[] jcam07 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wedontevenneedpolice
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[] satansheat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
WellweneedthePCpolicetokeepourwholefoods.
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[] awmigawd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shhh.Whyyougottagoandbelikethat.Tellingonusandshit.
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Yeah,butyougotgayassninjas
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[] gianini10 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FromLouisvilleandthatepisodewastooperfecttonotbeaboutNULU.
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"TheResidencesathistoricKenny'sHouse"
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[] Sergisimo1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
/r/AustinisarunningantiSodosopaad
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[] DaveMoTron undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HistoricShiTpaTown
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[] Bamres undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Withhitechtoiletforbothmenandwomentosqueezeoutallthecityfoodtheyenjoyed
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[] cynognathus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
CometoRedRobstahandenjoyfreshseafoodfromKentucky'smanyoceans.
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[] swiftekho undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Tobefair,beingtheworldhubforUPSmeanswehavesomeprettydamnfreshseafood.(NotRedRobstah)
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I'vewatchedthenewSouthParkbutI'mBritishanddon'tknowwhatasodosopais?
Igetthatit'ssomethingaboutgentrificationwhichhappenshere.
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Prettymuchoverprivilegedwhitetrustfundkidsmakingupbizarrerestaurants/nicheshopsandchargingexuberantprices
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[] kaesekopf undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
exuberant
Exorbitantisthewordyouwant
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Thanks!
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Yeah,thathappenshereespeciallyinLondon.Cheers.
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[] MisterArathos undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Inthecontextoftheshow,it'sSouthofdowntownSouthPark.It'saparodyofcitiestryingtoreinventthemselveswithanice,
cleanpartoftown,whilethisoftenleadstonegativeconsequences,likeotherpartsbeingignored.
Note:notAmerican,norfromaplacewithsimilarprograms,justreadatinybitontheInternet.
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Ahhhh,Imusthavemissedit.Ishouldprobablyhavegoogled.
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[] mrsyuk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IknowforafactthatamunicipalemployeeformysuburbisabigposterontheaClevelandsub,possiblyevenamod.Heisdumb
enoughtousehisrealnamesoitisntjardtoconnectthedots.
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[] LordOfDarkness undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Idon'tthinkit'swrongforamunicipalemployeeinClevelandtofrequenttheClevelandsub.
AndIthinkit'snaturalthathewouldprobablypostmostlypositivethingsaboutthecity.
Ithinkifheusedhisrealname,thenheprobablyisn'tashill.
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Itmightnotbewrong,Ijustthinkthatit'sdumb.Everyoneknowsnottouserealnamesunlessit'sanAMA.
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[] cookinshithatingshit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HahahayouliveinCleveland.
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Andyouprobablylivesomewherejustasshittyinitsownwaydude.
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[] cookinshithatingshit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hahahayoutookitpersonally.
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[] myrealnamewastakn undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Soaguythatworksforthecitywithinsideinformationintothegoingsonintheareaandpresumablyhasfreetimetobrowse
redditwithhisgovernmentjobpostsalotandgetsupvotedfortheinfohehas.Yupsoundslikeaconspiracy.
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Well,heisalsopromotingourcrappylittlesuburbwitharapidlyincreasingcrimeratethatourMayorlikestosweep
undertherugasbesthecan....andpromoteallthecityprojectslikecitygardensandpublicartthatdoesnothingto
reducesaidcrimerateandtheheroinproblem.SoIwouldsayyeah.Butifyoudon'tlivehereyouwouldnotreallybe
abletomakesnidecomments,howwouldyouknowwhat'sgoingon.CuyahogaCountyhassomeofthemostcorrupt
localgovernmentsinthecountry.
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[] acetyler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yay,IknewIwasn'ttheonlyClevelanderonreddit
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[] mother_rucker undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imean,thecityhasalmost400,000peoplesooddsareyouweren'talone.
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[] GrantNexus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearedozensofyou.Dozens!
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[] acetyler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Perhapsevenbaker'sdozens!
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[] sweetworld undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
possiblyevenamod
Hello,fromthewestside!
There'salistofmodsonthesidebar(requiredforeverysubreddit)./r/Clevelandonlyhas5mods.Andjudgingbythe
usernames,Idon'tthinktheoneyou'rethinkingofitoneofthem.
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Itisn'tshowingupintheappbutIbelieveyou.I'vejustnoticedhimpostingbeforeunderhisfullname,whichisastupid
thingtodo.Idon'tatallcareforthewaymycitygovernmentoperates,andnomatterhowmanytimesIvoteagainstthe
longstandingadministrationitneversmakesadifference.
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[] SaltyBawlz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
imguessingit'skirkt
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[] sweetworld undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'stheonlyonethatusesarealname,buthe'snotveryactiveonthesub
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[] StinkyBrittches undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Hello,fromthewestside!
AtleastIcansaythatItried!
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NicetryKarmanaut
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[] frickindeal undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Besides,thesub'ssodeaditwouldn'treallymatter(notapersonaldig,I'mactowner,Ijustwishthesubwasmore
active).
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Clevelandrocks.
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[] hirsch3y undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
https://youtu.be/oZzgAjjuqZM
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Man.IreallywishtheguywhowrotethatsongvisitedClevelandfirst.
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[] Not_A_Meme undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Actually,ithinktheguyleftoutalotofstuff,Clevelandisgreat
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WestSideMarket,Brownstailgaitingandakillermusicscene.Imissthatcity.
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[] bitcoin_cmo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Weareusingaflawedmonetarysystem.
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[] BloodlustBunny4 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11wasaninsidejob
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[] frayed_an00bis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
MyfriendhadatheorythatthewiiuonlineisnotreallikeyoujustplaywithmostlybotsonagamelikesmashorMariokart.Onlywhen
youconnectdirectlywithafriendisthereanactualonlineexperience.Onlyreasonitsoundedfeasibleisbecausethereapparentlyis
novoicechat.
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[] mercime1993 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
PatTillmanwasassassinated,thinkaboutithewasanAmericanheroembodimentofsupportforthewarinIraq,hewascriticalofthe
warandwantedtospeaktononoamchomskymonthsbeforehedied.Prettyconvenienthediedbeforehisantiwarsentimentswere
everheard.
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[] Pinkar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
9/11...itskindaobviousifyouseethebenefits...
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[] GemmaTeller undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatBeyoncefakedherpregnancyandusedasurrogate.Iknowit'sasillythingtobelieve,butthatFOLDINGBELLY.IMOiftrue,I
don'tthinkitwasforvanitypurposes.Eithershameovernotbeingabletoconceive/havingtouseasurrogate(whichsheobviously
shouldn'thaveofcourse),orthatB'spersonallifeisveryhidden,soitwouldbeeasiertojust"havethebaby"thantohaveeveryone
pryingintoherreproductivelife.
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[] Shezzam undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndthenMollyMeldrumhada"fall"sixweekslaterthatnearlykilledhim,hewastheinterviewerthatthefoldingbellyhappenedinfront
ofandwasairedglobally.NeverunderestimateaQueenB
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[] toastiezoe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwouldagreethatthesurrogateisapossibility,herimageisbasicallybeingasuperwoman.Superwomanpopsoutakid,getsbackinto
shape,anddogsabombassalbum.However,Ithinkit'salsopossiblethatshewasactuallypregnantbutnotshowingverymuchyet,
andsinceshewasgoingonashowtotalkaboutherpregnancy,theyelaboratedabitwithafakebelly.
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Stuffaboutherrealage,too...
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AlGoreshouldhavebeenpresidentoftheUnitedStates.Floridaelectionresultswererigged.Jebreallydidfixit.
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That'snotevenarealconspiracyanymore.
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KarlRovefixedOhiotogiveBushhissecond"victory".
Dudewasneverofficiallyelected,andcompletelyfuckedthecountry,theexactsamewayhe'sfuckedeverybusinessheever
managed.
Itotallybelieveit.
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[] whipfixed undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IbelieveallrecentelectionsintheUSarepredetermined.Thedebates,24hournewscoverage,andvotingisjusttogivetheillusion
youhavesomesortofchoiceandtocreateadivideamongstpeople.Thereasonbeing,youcanpitthesetwosidesagainsteachother
andblametheotherforthepassingofanunpopularamendmentorlaw.Itpreventscivilunrestormassivebacklashagainstthe
governmentandredirectstheangertowards"theotherside."
Ex:Wanttopasssomeguncontrol?Haveavote.Thenwhenitpasses,theblameautomaticallygoestotheleft.
Wanttogivestaxbreakstohugecorporationswhodon'tneedtaxbreaks?Haveavote.Itpassesandtherightisblamed.
Whenallthewhile,weareallgettingplayed.Obamawasahugepartofthis.Ittooktheusvs.themmentalitytonewslevelsby
throwingpeople'sracismintothemix.
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Thisisreallyoneofabout2or3theoriesIbelievein.AndthisiswhyIabsolutelydonotwantJebtobePresident.
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[] timm0113 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HBOdidanamazingdocumentaryonthiscalled"HackingDemocracy"...ifyoucanfindititsoneofthemosteyeopening,infuriating
documentariesIhaveseen
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Whydidn'tdemocratsproposeareturntopaperballotsfor2002andrequirethateachcountykeepthemgroupedbydistrictsothat
eachpartycoulddesignateahandfulofdelegatestowalkinatthesametimeanddoasurprisespotcheck?IfyoubelieveFloridawas
riggedin2000,doyoualsobelievethatthe2012districtswhichhadZEROvotesforRomneywererigged?Eventhemosthomogenous
districtusuallyhasonevoterwhoisangryaboutsomethingthathappenedordidn'thappeninthepreviousfouryears.
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Alsointhesamevein:Obamagetover100%ofthevotesincertaindistrictsin2009and2012.
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AndtheysaythatJebcan'tdoanything.
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[] Dark_Irish_Beard undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iagree.Moretothepoint,I'malmostcertainthateachUSpresident,inthepasthalfcenturyatleast,isn'treally"elected"butappointed
beforehandbythe"powersthatbe"thatprimariesandcampaignsarelittlemorethantheatertogiveusordinarycitizenstheillusionof
choice,inthesamewaythatlivetheatricalmagicalshowsarecarefullyengineeredandorchestratedtoleadtheaudienceand
volunteerstomakechoicesthatthehandlerswantthemtomake.
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[] DoctorGirby undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Everyelectionisrigged.
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I'vebelievedthiseversincetheelection.Lookatthelengthsthey'regoingtonowtosuppressvotes
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[] annoyinglyfriendly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisbasicallyafacttome.IfIhad3wishes,onewouldbeusedtoseewhatthealternateuniverselookslikewhereAlGoreis
President.IimagineamuchnicerEarth.UnfortunatelywegotanotherBushaspresident.
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Thisisn'taconspiracytheory.Thisisafact.ThevoteswereactuallytallieduplaterandGeorgeW.lostFlorida.
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Theresachance2004Ohiowasriggedtoo.TherewasaguywhorantheRNC'sserversandtheyalsohandledtheStateofOhio's
electronicvoting.Hewasawareofthesituation,toldhiswifehewasafraidCheneywould"throwhimunderthebus"andthen3days
laterhisprivateplanecrashedamileshortoftherunwayfollowingwhatnearbyresidentsdescribedasanexplosion.
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[] The_gray_ghost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisoneofthemostbelievableones.Itmostlikelydidhappen.Thebushfamilyisjustcorruptingeneral
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[] SkyPork undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
GodIrememberthatawfulmess."Someoneshoulddothehonorablethingandstepdown!"Right,andwhoshouldthatbe,exactly?
Blargh.Idon'tthinkanyonethinghasdonemoretomakemecynical.
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[] jsct undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'saprettyclearstatisticalanalysisshowingthattheelectioninPalmBeachCounty,Floridaarefucky,witha3rdpartycandidate
gettingastatisticallyunlikelynumberofvotes.BasicallytherearetheoriesthattheballotsweredesignedtobeconfusingtodivertGore
votestoaninconsequential3rdpartycandidate.
http://www.econometrics.com/intro/votes.gif
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[] dutchfool undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jendidit?
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TheyfuckedGoreasecondtimewiththatfakerapeaccusationinPortlandafewyearslaterthatblewoveronceheshutup.Sex
accusationsaregreatforpoliticalassasinations.LookatDomiqueStraussKhan,JulianAssange,andprobablysomeotherwhodidn't
gettoescapethecharges.
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[] robbyking undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
That'snotevenaconspiracy,it'sjustsomeshittheBushesgotawaywith.
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Iseeyourpointbutitdoesn'tmattersincethepopularvotemeansliterallynothinginalmostallstates.
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JonStewartonceintroducedAlGoreasthe44thPresidentoftheUnitedStates.Yeah.
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IthoughtitwasthatFloridahasabunchofcolleges,andlike500studentsatthebiggest10decidedtovote/shillfornader.
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[] soapgoat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
popularelection!=whogetselected
itwasaproblemwithhowstatesusedtheiractualvotingpowersintheelectoralcollegeandthebiggerstatesvotedforbush
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Thefloridaelectionresultsweren'trigged.Anewspapereventuallygottheirhandsontheballotsanddidarecountaccordingtothe
countingrulesthatwerelegalatthetime,anddeterminedthatGorewon...bysomethinglike50votes,ifIremembercorrectly.Ifthe
recounthadbeenpermittedtocontinueuntiladefinitiveanswerwasreached,wewouldhavehadPresidentGore.
Theproblemwasnotriggingtheresults.Theproblemisthatthesupremecourtsteppedinandbasicallythemajoritypartyofthe
supremecourtsimplyorderedthecountingtostopanddeclaredtheircandidatethewinner,inadecisionthatissolegallyhorrificthat
eventhepeoplewhomadeitexplicitlywroteintoitthatitmaynotbeusedasprecedent.Bluntly,therepublicansupremecourtjustices
outrightstoletheelectionforBush.Iwouldhavebeenriotinginthestreetswithapitchforkinonehandandatorchintheother,ifIhad
thoughtitwoulddoanygood.Iamreallydisgustedwithhowmuchofthenationletthesupremecourtstealanelectionwithouteven
complaining.
Ifyouwanttoworryaboutriggedelectionresults,lookatBushtakingOhioinhis"reelection"BobbyKennedyJr.wroteareallygood
articleaboutitwhichmakesitprettyobviousthattherepubsprobablystolethatelectionbyriggingthatstate,andweprobablylawfully
shouldhavehadaPresidentKerry.
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TheSupremeCourthadtostepinbecauseGorewastryingtogamethesystem.You'renotallowedtohaveunlimitedrecountsuntil
oneofthemshowsyouwinning.Onlyoneortworecountsarepermittedandthenyouhavetoaccepttheresult.
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TheSupremeCourthadtostepinbecauseGorewastryingtogamethesystem.
Growup:bothsidesweretryingtogamethesystem.TheGoresidewastryingtokeeprecountinguntilitgotaresultitliked,
theBushsidewastryingtoforcecountingtostopthemomentitgotaresultitliked.Bothofthemwereinthewrong,butthen,
thevotealsohadn'tbeenaccuratelycountedyeteither,socountingstillshouldhavecontinued.Thevotecountisnot
performedtosatisfythewhimsofthecandidatesandtheparties,it'stheretoensurethevoteofthecitizensisproperly
counted.
UNDERNOCIRCUMSTANCESshouldtheSupremeCourtEVERjuststopballotcountinganddeclareitsownchoiceof
winnerbypartisanvoteofthecourt.Ifanything,itshouldhavedeclaredhowthecountwouldbeperformed,whowould
performit,andwhen/whereitwouldtakeplace.Orevenbetter,Iwouldhavepreferredifithadthrownoutthevoteentirely
andorderedarevotewithballotsthatwerecomprehensiblebysanepeople.Butno,thecourtchosetheirownwinnerand
wentwiththat.
Onlyoneortworecountsarepermittedandthenyouhavetoaccepttheresult.
Bull.Iftheresultisbasedonwhatyoubelievetobeanimproperlyperformedcount(anditwasanimproperlyperformed
count),youcankeepcontestingit.
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WelloneofthekeyissueswasthatGoreonlyaskedforrecountsinitiallyinsomethinglike3counties,whichwasaterrible
move...
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[] Thrgd456 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
FYIFloridaisnottheonlystateintheUnion.IfGorehaddonebetteracrosstheboardthenthingswouldbeverydifferentrightnow.For
instance,wewouldallbespeakingArabic.
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K
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Thisisn'taconspiracytheory,it'sbasicallyfact.TheBushfamilyownsalargepartofmainstreammedia,sothestoryhasbeen
suppressedovertheyearsuntilbynowpeoplehaveforgottenaboutit.
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[] B_Provisional undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Bullshit.ItwasentirelyNader'sfaultthatGorelosttheelection./s
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[] Cheesy_Bacon_Splooge undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AsaTennesseeanandmoderatewholeanstowardsdemocrat,AlGoreisaliarandpieceofshitandIwouldrathervoteforanactual
pileofshitthanthatfuckingweasel.Thatsaid,Iwholeheartedlyagreethatthisisaconspiracyworthbelieving.
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[] Huggernaut2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
99%Invisibledidareallygreatpodcastaboutthis.TheyreallydigintowhythedesignsoftheFloridaballotsweresofedup,andwhy
weevenuseballotsanyway.
(I'dlinkit,butI'monmobile!Sorry!)
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[] robotwhumanhair undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IwastoldthisinmyGovclasslastsemesterlikeitwasafact.Didn'tthiscreatesomeelectronicpollingact?
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[] Amesb34r undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iwas23whenthathappenedandIrememberthenewsreportsverywell.EveryonehadGorewinninganditwasn'tgoingtobeclose.
SuddenlytherewasaprobleminFloridaanditwasn'tclearwhowasgoingtowin.Iwaswatchingwithmyfriendsandwewere
completelyblownawaythatthestatethatmayswingtheelectionjusthappenedtoberunbythebrotheroftheguywhowouldbenefit.
Thenintheaftermathwehearaboutthousandsofvotesthatweren'tcounted,machinesthatwerefaulty,etc.
Idon'tthinkit'saconspiracytheory,Ithinkit'stheactualstory.
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[] nexisfan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatmakesmewanttopuke.
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ifJebissuchacriminalmastermindwhyishewaaaybehindinthecurrentpolls?
Gorewouldhavebeenahorriblepresident.
countlesspeoplelookedintoyourclaim,desperatetoproveit.Thereisnoproof,nothing.Giveitup.
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WouldGorehavebeenabetterpresidentthan,veryarguablytheworstpresidentinUShistory,GeorgeWBush?
IsitasurprisethattheworstpresidentinUShistoryisalsotheonlysincethe19thcenturythatlostthepopularvote?Orexactly
whatyou'dexpect?
TheJebstuffishardtosubstantiatebutthoseelectionresultsinFloridaaredifficulttoeitherproveitdisproveandeveryonethat
knewanythingthoughtGorewouldcarryFlorida.
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EveryonethoughtRomneywouldbeatBaracktoo(theactualworstpresidentever).
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[] GovernorOfReddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Jeb!fixedit!
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[] EddieLuKamba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ithinkthisisprettyeasilydebunked:outdatedcountingmachines,widespreadvariationinmanualvotecountingproceduresin
Broward,MiamiDade,andPalmBeachCo.("Isanindentationcounted?CanIseelightthroughtheballot?")...heck,Jebtheorycannot
treadwaterifFL'sowncourtwastheoreticallyworkinginfavorofamanualrecount(andGore'spossiblevictory).
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[] TennSeven undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Accordingtoarecentstudybyabunchofnewspapers(USAToday,MiamiHerald,andKnightRidder),evenamanualrecount
wouldhavehadBushwinningusingthreeoutoffourmethodologies.TheonlyonethatwouldhaveseenGoreontopwasthe"Strict
Standard"(onlycountingfullyremovedchads)eventhenGorewouldhavebeenaheadbyonly3votes,anditwasastandardthat
Gorewasnotaskingforinarecount.
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Source:http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/bushgore2000electionresultsstudies/
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[] Orlando_Boom_ undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Onlytookahandfulofcommentstofindonebashingrepublicans.Isn'tRedditgreat?
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It'snotbashingRepublicans.It'sbashingtheBushfamilypoliticaldynasty.
GeorgeWBushisthefirstpresidentsincethelate19thcenturytolosethepopularvoteandbecomepresident.Andhealsois
almostundeniablytheworstpresidentinmodernhistory.CanyounameoneWaccomplishment?Hispresidencywasaroller
coasteroftragedy.
WellIguessNCLBhasbeenaragingsuccess.Ohwait,no,itsjustcausingmassdistrustinthepubliceducationsystemandfueling
thefireforcharterschoolswhichfavortherichandadvantaged.
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AlsotheoneaboutKarlRoveblowinguponFoxNewsbecausehehadexpectedtheelectiontobesuccessfullyriggedviavoter
suppressiontactics
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IreadaboutaninterestingideatodowiththatelectioninProofiness,thisbookallabouthownumbersandstatisticsareusedtotrick
people.KindoflikeColbert's"truthiness"butwithproof.Anyway,theauthorsaysthattheamountofvotesintheFloridaelectionthat
decidedtheraceweresosmallthatitfellintoareasonablemarginoferror.Wedon'ttakemarginsoferrorintoaccountofficially,butif
wedidthatelectionwouldhavebeenatie.AndwhatisFlorida'srulefordecidingatie?Coinflip.Nowthatwouldhavebeencrazy
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Forsomereason,Ireadthatas'Floridaerectionresultswererigged'
Couldn'tagreemore.
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Wouldn'tsurpriseme.
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alsotheircousinwasthefoxnewspollsterwhoreversedthecallabtflorida
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[] NEVERGETMARRIED undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didn'thewinthepopularvote?ThataloneiswhyIneverhaveregisteredtovote.
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[] TheMoonManMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeahman,becausefuckallelections,notjustthatonethatyouhaveaproblemwith.
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[] NEVERGETMARRIED undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Wellifonedidn'tgothewaythatAmericanswantedittochancesarethattherestofthemcouldgivetwoshitsaboutwhatthe
peoplewant...
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[] TheMoonManMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Yeah,notgivingashitwilldefinitelysolvetheproblemofpoliticiansthatdontgiveashit.
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Thisisn'tasecretconspiracy,itisanopenconspiracy.BeforetheelectionJebtookthousandsofblackpeopleoffthevoterrolls
becausetheyhadnamesthatweresimilartofelons'names.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/10/us/floridalistforpurgeofvotersprovesflawed.html?_r=0
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[] lookingclosely undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
youshouldwatchthis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_lYGyIaK80
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[] FearStalksTheLand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Notonlythisbutthat2004wasstolenforGWBfromKerryinOhio.
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Imean,if2000wasrigged(verylikely)thisonewastoo.WhywouldmorepeoplevoteforBushthistimearoundwhentheydidn't
thefirsttime?
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Supposedly,itwastriedagainin2012,andAnonymousstoppedit.ThatiswhyCarlRovefreakedoutsohardonFoxwhenthey
reportedOhiotoObama.
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[] FearStalksTheLand undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearealotofpeoplethatthinktheresultsinfrom2012don'tmakealotofsense.
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[] TRAIN_WRECK_0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thissoundsinteresting,doyouhavesource?
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DoIhaveasourcetoabsolutelyproveit,no.Isaidsupposedly,butjustgoogleit.https://www.google.com/webhp?
sourceid=chromeinstant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF8#q=anonymous%202012%20election
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Butofcourseover20redditorsupvotedyouforagenda.
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[] ir3flex undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'shardertobelievewhenattheendtheysay"wemightjustreleasetheevidence."Like,whythefucknotjust
releaseitifyouhaveit.Makesnosense.
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Peoplewhodon'tthinkthatelectionscanbefixedinAmericashouldlookupDieboldelectronicsandthereveledsecurityflawsinthe
votingmachinestheyproduced.
AndifsomeonetriesusingthefactthattheCEOsaidsomethingaboutdeliveringtheracetoBush,hehassaiditwasapoorchoiceof
words,soI'mkindaskepticalofpeoplewhousethatasreasonthatitsaconspiracy.
Butlikevotingsystemsshouldnthaveobvioussecurityflaws,andpeoplewhohavecountedthevotesorcheckthemachinesoutputs
havefoundsomemachineswouldhaveliterally0votesforcertaincandidatesorcountsomevotesasnegativeinsteadofpositive
(whichisliketheeasiestfixinthebook,declaringthevotecountasanunassignedintegerinsteadofjustanintegerwouldfixthatso,
so,sofast
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TheworstpartistheresultsarestoredinanEDITABLEExcelfile.Like,whattheFUCK.
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[] ryhamz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Mycomputersecurityprofessorleadthe/oneofthesecurityresearchgroupsthatgottheirhandsonatleastoneoldelectronic
votingmachineandheconfirmedthatthesecuritywaslaughable.
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Whileyouhaveapoint,imprettysureamajorityoftheelectionsinthelastthirtyyearsorsohasbeenriggedinonewayoranother.
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IfinditoddthattheCEOofanyvotingmachinecompanywouldhaveanypublicthingtosayaboutaparticularcandidateinany
race.
Seemslikeitwouldinvitethoughtsabouttheveryrealpossibilitythatyourmachinesaregameable.
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[] disposablename undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'sareasonwhyIspenttheweeksafterthe2012Aussieelectionballsdeepinpaper:wedon'ttrustelectronicmachines,and
norshouldwe.
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[] Duzula undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thevotingmachinesthemselvesareanillusiontohelpmaintaintheideathatwehaveachoice.Everypresidentischosennot
electedbythepeoplethatfundthem.
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ThefuckinghangingChads!!!
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Howaboutthefactthattherearereciepts/recordsandarmiesoflawyersonbothsideswatchingtheelection?
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ImeanIwastalkingaboutthecodeitselfbeingsomespecificway,whichwouldabsolutelyaffecttherecords/reciepts.Imma
gooutonalimbandsaymorelawyersaren'texpertprogrammers.
Andwhenexpertprogrammerstookalookatthecodetheywereamazedathowbaditwas,especiallysincethesame
companythatwasmakingthosemachineshadalreadymadeATMswithsomeofthebestsecurityintheworld
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Youwouldn'tthinkthey'dhaveprogrammersontheirsideeither?
Thefactyou(oranyoneelseforthatmatter,nothingpersonal)knowaboutitmeansthatthelawyersandothersmart,
concernedpeopleknowaboutit.Peoplewithknowhowandresourcesattheirdisposal.
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Orjustlookatthecountlesscasesofhistoricalvoterfraud.JFKwasknowntobeatNixonwithvoterfraudforexample
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[] brucejennerleftovers undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
*unsigned
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[] realjd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
NotsayingthoseDieboldmachinesaren'tshit,buttheyweren'tinuseduringthe2000election.Theissuebackthen,inthecounties
inquestion,waswitholdfolksgettingconfusedoverthepunchcardballots.
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[] JQuilty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
AndifsomeonetriesusingthefactthattheCEOsaidsomethingaboutdeliveringtheracetoBush,hehassaiditwasapoor
choiceofwords,soI'mkindaskepticalofpeoplewhousethatasreasonthatitsaconspiracy.
PeopleuseitasareasonbecauseitwasdoneatarallyinOhio,astatewheretherewasrecordedirregularitieswithDiebold
machines,andastatethatdecidedtheelection.
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Yeahbutlike,poorchoiceofwordsisactuallyunderstandable.Terriblecodingandawfulsecurityonthemachinesiswhat
peopleshouldbeangryabout
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[] JQuilty undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Whynotboth?
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[] regreddit undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Asasoftwaredeveloperthathasworkedforbigcompanies,itisunfathomablethatacompanythatmakesvotingmachinescan
writecodethatbad.TheymakethemostsecureATMmachinesintheworld,butmakecrappyvotingmachines?Notpossible,
thosemachinesarerigged.It'sjustnotpossibletowritecodethatbadatthatlevel.
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Whatabouttheelectoralcollege??Theydon'tevenneedtogotoallthattrouble...
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whichisliketheeasiestfixinthebook,declaringthevotecountasanunassignedintegerinsteadofjustanintegerwouldfix
thatso,so,sofast
What?I'mguessingyou'renotaprogrammer.Thiswouldjustcausethenumbertorollovertothemaximumunsignedintinsteadof
enteringnegativenumbers.(Exactvaluedependsonlanguageandmachine,commonly65,535forC++.)
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Dudejustmakeitalong.Eitherwaymemoryspaceshouldnotbeanissueonavotingmachine
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Bothofyoursolutionsaremakingtheassumptionthatthebugiscausedbyexceedingthemaximumpossiblevalueof
thedatatype.Thisseemsunlikelytomethedatatypewouldhavetoberidiculouslysmalltonotevenbecapableof
storingalocalelectioncount.SoI'massumingthebugiselsewhere(inthecountingprocedureperhaps)andwould
thereforenotbefixedbyanychangeindatatype.
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Ah,Ihadn'tthoughtofthat.Iwasassumingtheyjustusedlikebasicincrementing,butsometimesitwould
decrementforaparticularcandidate,whichiswhyitwouldbenegative.Whichimeanmakingitunassigned
wouldn'thavestoppedthat.
Soyeahmyinitialideaprobablywouldn'thaveworked.Ohwellthepointofcodingisthatyoucantryatonofstuff
beforetheproductfinallyships
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Ithinkthemainpointisyoucan'twrotecodedthatbadandbuggyatthatlevel,Dieboldiscomplicit
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[] bumblefrump undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
There'salotofspeculationthatkarlrovemodemedintotheGEMScentraltabulatorsandalteredthevotesbecauseDieboldwas
usingunprotectedmicrosoftaccessdatabasestostorethevotestotals.(possiblyonpurpose)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volusia_error
TheyexaminedthecomputerlogsinVolusiawhichshowedtwoattemptstoaccessthetabulator(claimedtobesecure),andalso
foundevidenceofnetworkedharddrives,whilethesupervisoroftheelectionswassayingthatnothingwasnetworked.
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[] FenrisFrost undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IworkforanelectionsbranchinMassachusettsintheirtechnologydivision.Canconfirm.Wehavevotingequipmentthatisless
reliable.Doyouknowhowwetellitfromtheworkingstuff?Thenotsofreshonesalwaysgotothesamelocations.
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[] puzlbar undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Therearevotingsystemsthatareverifiable.Yougetareceipt,andcanverifyintheresultthatyourvotewascountedanditwas
countedfortherightcandidate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endtoend_auditable_voting_systems
Thesearenottheoretical,theyexistintherealworldbutnotusedinmanycommunities.ThefactwetolerateDiebold'svoting
machinesandsimilarsystemsisbeyondinsane.
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WhenIworkedincapitalremittingforalargebank,weissuedcountlessrepairordersforDieboldATMs.Thosethings
seemedtobeconstantlybreakingdown.
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[] Scortius undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThisisexplicitlyforbiddentobeusedinaUSelectionduetothepossibilityofvoterpersuasion.Hypothetically,yourboss
couldthreatentofireyouifyoudon'tvoteforhiscandidate,andgiventhatyouhaveareceipt,hecanforceyoutoverifyto
himwhoyouvotedfor.
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Apparentlynobodyreadthewikipediapage.
Thevoteisstillanonymous.Thesearesystemsbasedonmathematicallyprovencryptographictechniques,which
makesthemhardtounderstandforthelayperson,but(1)youcanproveyourvotewascounted,(2)youcanproveyour
votewascastasintended,and(3)thecandidate(s)youvotedforcannotbedeterminedbythereceipt(orconfirmation
codeyou'regiven).
Scantegrityisperhapstheeasiesttounderstand,it'sanenhancementbuiltinontopofexistingopticalballots.
Thisvideoishopefullyclearenoughtoexplainwhyyoucan'tdeterminewhothepersonvotedfor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dum3e1UJ76c
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Maybetheyshouldgiveyouareceiptbuthaveashredderorincineratoravailableforyoutodestroyitonyourwayout.
Or,theycouldpassalawmakingitillegaltopossesssuchareceiptmeaningthateveryonecouldplausiblydenyto
theirbossthattheyhadareceiptstillintheirpossession.
Boom.Problemsolved.
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Thereceiptispointlessifyoucan'ttakeithomeandverifyitwasincludedinthefinaltally.
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Hmm,ohyeahmissedthat.
Wellmaybeyoucouldgetonethat'sencryptedandmaybeyouaregivenaonetimeusecodetodecryptit
thatcanthenbedecryptedonthenightoftheelectionorsomething.Idon'tknow,I'mnotacryptography
expert!Surethere'sawaythatyoucouldhavesomethingthatisdestroyedifyougiveittosomeoneelse.
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[] Logan42 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theycangiveyouareceiptandputsomethingelseinthemachine...
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[] UberMcwinsauce undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
He'snotsayingthereceiptinherentlyverifiesthatitisn'tbeingmanipulated,butthatyourvotereceiptallowsvotestobe
checkedaftertheyareannounced.
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[] bk886 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Punchcardballetscanbelost.Nosystemcurrentlyinplaceis100%infallible.
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[] kaaz54 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
True.Butwithphysicalballots,thescalabilityisverylow.Ontopofthat,herewhenballotsarecounted,thereare
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alwaysthreepeoplewhoatalltimeshaveeyesonthephysicalballots,countingthemtogether,thentheyare
checkedbythreeotherpeople.Allofthemcountedatthevotingplace.Thepointistonevertrustasingleperson
person.Sure,theremightbesmallermistakeshereorthere,itdoestakehourstocountthevotesafterclosing,
butitmakesitextremelyhardtotamperwiththevotesonalargerscale.
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Howabouttheresultsbeingcheckedbybothparties?Iknowthatishowitsupposedlyworksnow,butIguarantee
twoseniorcitizensinmybackwardstownaren'tgoingtoarguewiththeresultsacomputergivesoutwhenthey
canbarelyhandlefacebook
Paperistheanswer,itcanbecounted,justbecausesomethingispossibledoesn'tmeanitisthebestidea
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InNewYorkState,theyhaveapaperballotwhichisreadbyanopticalscanner.Ifthemachinesresultsseemoff,
theyhavethepaperballotstocheck.
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AvotingsystembasedonaBlockchaincouldprobablybedevisedthatwouldbepubliclyauditable,private,and
unalterable.Basicallyyourvoterregistrationwouldgrantyouaprivatekeytocastyourvote,youwouldtransfer
yourvotetoyourcandidate,youcouldmonitortheprogressofyourvotebeingconfirmedbytheotherelection
nodes,andonceithadenoughconfirmationstonotbealtered,youcouldbeonyourway.Oryoucouldleave
immediatelyifyoutrusteditwouldn'tbealtered.
I'mnotgoingtosaythatthiswouldbeasimplesoftwaresolution,butthetechnologyalreadyexists.Anappcould
probablybewrittentorunonanyplatformfairlyeasily.Hell,ifdonecorrectlyyoucouldprobablyallowpeopleto
voteremotely.
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Ablockchaindoesn'tmakesensehere.ThecoreideaoftheBitcoinchainisthatminersareincentivizedto
produceblocks,andtoincludetransactions,byamonetaryreward.Thecryptographicsecuritycomesfrom
theincreasingblockdifficulty.
Ifwemakevotestransactions,who'sminingtheblocks?Whatdotheyget,andwhydotheyincludevote
transactionsintheirblocks?Eveniftheseproblemsaresolved,thisonlypreventsthecountingof
nonexistentvotes.Realvotescouldstillbeignoredgivensufficienthashingpower.
Ifeachvoteisablock,thingsworkalittlebetter,butthenwe'rerequiringworktobedonebyeveryonewho
wantstovote,meaningtheyneedtohaveaplatformtorunthesoftware,whichwouldnecessarilybe
complexenoughtobedifficulttoverifytheintegrityof.Ifwedothisfromvotingmachines,theystillhaveto
trustthemachinecompletely,sinceevenifthesoftwareisopensource,there'snoguaranteeit'swhatthe
machineisactuallyrunning.Plus,theBitcoinblockchainhasalwayshadorphanedblocks.Iftwopeople
buildoffofoneblock,thenetworkwilleventuallychooseonesideoftheforktoworkon,andanyblockson
theothersidewillbecomeorphaned.Whatifyourvotegetsorphaned?
Oneofthebiggestissuesdesigninganysortofvotingsoftwareisthatevenifyoumakesurethateveryone's
voteswilldefinitelybecountedcorrectly,youalsohavetomakeabsolutelycertainthatvotesare
anonymous.Howwouldweensurethateachpersoncouldonlyvoteexactlyoncewithouttheirvote(which
ispubliclyvisibleontheblockchain)beingtraceablebacktothem?Eachpersongetstheirownprivatekey,
right?Nowwehavetoeithertrustthepeople(orsoftware)responsibleforgivingoutthekeys,ortrustthe
votersnottogeneratemorethanone.It'sirrelevant,though,sincethevotersshouldneverhaveanywayto
provehowtheyvoted.Ifyoudohaveyourprivatekeyandcanprovewhichvoteisyours:a)youcansell
yourvoteandprovetothebuyerthatyouvotedthewaytheytoldyouto,andb)youcanbeblackmailedinto
voting,withtheblackmailerthreateningtodosomethingunlessyouprovethatyouvotedthewaytheytold
youto.Neitherofthesethingscanbeallowed.Currently,youcansay"Giveme$1000andI'llvotefor
Trump",butyoucouldvoteforsomeoneelseandthepersonpayingyoucouldn'trequireproofthatyou
didn't.Anysystemwherevotersholdprivatekeysthatcanbeusedtoproveownershipofavotecan'tbe
used,andwithoutthem,there'snowaytoverifythateachpersononlyvotedonce.
Thisvideoexplainssomeoftheideasinthispostinmoredetail,andsayswhyelectronicvotingisnearly
impossibletomakework.Addingablockchainisn'tgoingtofixit,andjustaddsmorepointsoffailure.
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Whyisablockchainatallrelevanttothis?Youarejustsayingwewouldusepublickeycryptographyto
secureandverifyvotes
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Publicverification.
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Howisverificationeasierwithablockchainthanwithacentralizedsystem?
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loadmorecomments
becausebuzzwords
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I'mveryonboardwiththisidea...atleastuntilsomeonepointsoutaflawthatIhaven'tseenlol
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[] 010a undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theonlyobviousflawwithblockchainbasedsystemsisthattheyareinherentlydesignedaroundthe
conceptofmajorityconsensus.Ifasingleentitycontrolsmorethan50%oftheblockchain'scollective
powertherearewaystomanipulatetheother49%tobelieveyour51%istheSourceOfTruth,and
thuslieaboutwhatthetruthreallyis.
ThisiscalledaMajorityAttackanditwasaveryrealconcernintheBitcoincommunitynottoolong
agowhenoneabsurdlypopularminingpoolgotverycloseto50%beforevoluntarilystoppingnew
registrationsandbreakingitselfapart.
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Interesting.Ifiguredthattheirmightbesomethingakintothis,thoughnotfromanyindepth
knowledgeabouttheblockchain...Ijusttendtobelievethattheonlythingsimperviousto
subversionprobablyaren'tworthsubvertinginthefirstplace.
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No,theycan't.Theverynatureofendtoendauditablevotingisthatit'spossibleforavotertoverifytheirvotewascast
asintendedandcountedinthefinalresult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scantegrityisanexampleofsuchasystem.
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Igetconfusedonthisallthetime,howdopeoplerationalizetheelectoralcollegeinthisastheyhadnorequirementtovoteasthe
populaceinFLatthattime.Now,I'mnotsayingthatdoesn'tmeanitwasn'tbought,however,itistoughtotellwhetheritwasoneguy
beingallcrazyoranorganizedconspiracy.
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We're60%ofthewaytheretoremoveit.Therestofthestatesreallyneedtostepuptheirgameandputthisupasaballotinitiative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
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...howdopeoplerationalizetheelectoralcollege...
1.
2.
3.
4.
Itmadesenseatonepoint.
YouneedtoamendtheConstitutiontofixit.
Everybodyknowstherulesandcampaignsaroundtherules.
Ifitwasstraightpopularvote,theonlycampaigningwouldbeinhighpopulationareas,effectivelydisenfranchisinghugerural
swathsofthecountry.
5. Anystatethatdeviatesfromthe"winnertakesall"electoralvotefindsthemselveslesspopularwithpresidentialcampaigns,
whocouldspendtheirdollarsinanotherstate,win55%ofthevoteandgetalltheelectoralvotes.
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Youreallyhaven'tansweredthequestion,I'maskinginasystemwheretheelectoralcollegeelectsthepresident,andisnot
boundbypopularvote,howdowelinkthepopularvotefiascotothestealingofthepresidency?
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I'maskinginasystemwheretheelectoralcollegeelectsthepresident,andisnotboundbypopularvote
Wait,I'mmissingwhenallthesedramaticupsetshappenedbecausethedelegatesdidn'tvoteforwhotheypledgedto.
I'mrereadingallyourcommentsinthisthreadandyou'renotmakingthatmuchsense.
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Themembersoftheelectoralcollegeareassignedbasedonpopularvotingresults.It'snotthatcomplicatedman.Sure,
thoserepublicandelegatesdidn'thavetovoterepublican,butit'shardlysurprisingthattheydid.
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Electoralcollegemembersarenotassignedbasedonvotingresults,noraretheyboundtovoteasthepopulace
inmanystates,including,atthetime,FL
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Notaconspiracytheoryasmuchasastatementofverifiablefacts.
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AslotsoftheissuesAmericansdeemconspiracytheories
Kennedy
9/11
youguysreallybelieveyourgovenrment?
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Iwasthinkingthataswellbutitisaconspiracyintheliteralmeaningoftheword.
"asecretplanbyagrouptodosomethingunlawfulorharmful."
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HowhaveIneverhardthisbefore?Imean,don'tnecessitybelieveitbecausecoincidencesareathing...But,damn,that'ssome
coincidence!
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[] cathalmc undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ReadStealThisVoteit'sahistoryofvoteriggingintheUSA,andtheauthorestablishes(beyondquestion,inmymind)thatthe
2000electionwasstolen.
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Ifthatsituationhappenedinanyothercountryintheworld,Americanswouldthinkitwasobviouslyrigged,butsinceithappenedinthe
US,crickets.
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[] RadicalRexroth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Doyouevenrememberthatelection?Everyonetalkingabouthangingchads?Itwashardlycrickets.
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Yeah,Idorememberitandthestorywas"gee,theseballotssuregotmessedup."Itwasn't"onesideisclearlytryingtosteal
theelection."
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Itwasn'tcrickets.Peopleweretalkingaboutitalot.Iwasaliveatthattime.
Iwasalittlebitchewedupaboutitatthetime,butIgotoveritwhenIrealizedthatnomatterwhowon,themarginofvictorywas
smallerthanthemarginoferrorforourvotingprocess.Basically,theonly"fair"thingtodoatthatpointwould'vebeenacointoss.
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[] soullessgingerfck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'snotcrickets.Whatareyousupposedtodo?Notvote?Voteforsomeoneelse?Thereisnorecourse.
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Don'tforgetthetruckofballotsthatwentmissingtoo.
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[] BananaWorking4Scale undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Alsodon'tforgetthevotingmachinesthatmysteriouslyrecordedatonofballotswhereavoterfilledoutanalldemocrat
ticket...exceptinthepresidentialracethey(forsomeoddreason)chosetovotePatBuchanan.
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[] mjk1093 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thatwasbecauseofthepoordesignoftheballot,theinfamousButterflyBallotthatsetofftheButterflyEffectbigtime.
NoIraqWar,noISIS,noBarackObama,andpossiblyevenno9/11withoutthatballotinFloridain2000.
ThebutterflyballotwasimplementedinPalmBeachCountybyaDemocratthough,sonoconspiracyatleastonthat
point.
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[] Rookwood undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Don'tforgettherestrictionthatwasputonvotingforexfelonsshortlybeforetheelectionandthensome12,000people,
almostentirelyAfricanAmericanswerewronglyclassifiedasexfelons,andbarredfromvotingonelectionday.This
demographicwasmuchmorelikelytovoteGorethanBush.Bushwonbylessthan600votesand12,000peoplewere
wrongfullykeptfromvoting.
IoriginallyheardthisonaninterviewonNPReithergivenbyIraGlassorTerryGross.Ican'trememberwhowasbeing
interviewed,buthereisanexcerptfromanarticleIfoundoveratNBCnews.com:
"Butracebecameanissueafterthe2000electionturmoilinFlorida,whereabout600,000adults,byfarthelargest
numberinthecountry,arebarredfromvotingbythestate'sfelondisenfranchisementlaw.Morethanonequarterof
thoseexcludedwereAfricanAmerican.
Ontopofthat,priortotheelection,Gov.JebBush'sadministrationdistributedlistsoffelonstobecertaintheywould
bebarredfrompollingplaces.Buttheprocessalsoexcludedlegitimatevoters,includingsomewhohadtheirvoting
rightsrestoredelsewhereinthecountry."
WhenIthinkofallthecrimestheBushadministrationgotawaywithandunderminingtheydidofourdemocratic
process,it'sjustverydisheartening.It'samazingtheygotawaywithitallscotfree.
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[] Mattiehitsdrums undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
LookupKatherineHarris.ThesmokinggunforariggedelectioninFlorida.EvenafterCNNhadalreadygiven
GoreFL.
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[] rgryffin13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HowaboutalloftheshitthathashappenedduringObama'stenure?WorstofwhichwastheIRSutilizingit's
powertoTargetconservativescompletelyproventobetrue,notaconspiracytheory,andstillzero
consequencestoanyoneinvolved.Faceit,politiciansarescum,notconservativepoliticians.
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[] TheySeeMeLearnin undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Iknow,somanypeoplediedandsomanywarswerestartedonfalsepretensesbecauseofObama's
IRSghazi!
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IcantellbyyourresponsethatthereisnowaythatIwouldeverchangeyourmind.Butonthe
offchancethatsomeonewithanopenmindreadsthis:Yourimplicationthattheonlywaysomething
canbebadisifpeopledieisludicrous.Ifyouwerehonestyouwouldrecognizethatifconservative
politiciansusedpowertoinfluenceotheraspectsoflife(freedom,wealth,etc)youwouldbeoutraged.
Ohwait,Ihearallthetimepeopleupinarmsoverallthosethings.Byyourshortsightedcomment
thingslikeracismwouldnotbeworthbeingupsetaboutatallbecausenobodydied.Youobviously
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don'tthinkthat,sodon'tactlikelivesaretheonlyimportantthingssimplybecauseyoudisagreewith
onepartyvsanother.
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Iwas,moreorless,pointingouthowstupiditwasforyoutocomparethecomplicityin
underminingourdemocraticprocessdoneduring/beforeBush'stimetotheminorbullshitthat
happenedduringObama'stime.
Nobodycansay100%thatthe2000electionwasillicitlyswunginBush'sfavorbecausenobody
everadmittedtheywereamastermind,butIthinkpeopletotallyunderestimatehoweasyitisto
getawaywithacrimeofthatmagnitudeprovidedyouhaveuncheckedaccesstoeverystep
alongtheway.
AsfortheIRStargetingconservativegroupsthesqueakywheelgetsoiledfirst.Theytendto
drawmoreattentiontothemselvesthroughtheirconstantstreamofmisinformationandvitriol
andtheparty'sthemeistopaylesstaxes.
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[] Armond404 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Ohpeopleinagovernmentofficeauditedpeoplewhocriticizedthem?Soshocking.
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Itreallyscaresmehoweasilyyoudismissthis.Perhapsitisn'tshocking.Butitisworthserious
concern.First,itwasn'tjustauditing,itwasmorethanthat.Andsecond,auditingisabigdeal.Ifyou
knowyouaregoingtogetauditedforsaying/doingcertainthings,thataffectsbehavior.Andthatis
verydeeplyunamericantolimitpeople'sfreedomstospeaktheirbeliefs.Regardlessofwhatyou
believeIwouldhopethatwecanagreethatthegovernmentshouldnotlimitwhatyoucansaybased
onwhetherornottheyagreetoit.Iholdthefirstamendmentverydear.Ihopeyoudotoo.
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[] ushmel undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThattendstohappenwhendaddyistheexleaderoftheCIA.
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Anddon'tforgetthefactthathundredsofballotscameinafterelectiondayfromoverseasmilitarybasesthathadafar
higherproportionofBushvotesthantheonesthatcameinbeforeelectionday.
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[] crystalistwo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Theycountedthose.Therecountwentonformonths.
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SoundsliketherecentKentuckygubernatorialrace.
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[] lord_of_the_waters undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Didsomethingcomeoutoftheinvestigation?
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HonestlyIhaven'theardanythingmoreonit.Theissuekindajustdisappearedfromthemedia.
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Right?Itwananoutragehereonredditforadayandthennothing,whichisweirdconsideringsome
issuesarefolloweduponforever
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[] Cueball61 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Somethingdoesn'taddupaboutMadelineMcCann'sdisappearance
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Theywereflatbrokebeforeshedisappeared,they'remultimillionairesnow.
Also,whentheyweretakenforquestioningbythePortuguesepolice,KateMcCannrefusedtoansweranyquestions.
Whywouldaparentnotanswerquestionstothepolicethatcouldpotentiallyhelpfindherdaughter?
She'sneveractuallyansweredthesequestionsandtheeventsofthatdayareincrediblysketchy.
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Unrelated
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[] YungJoeFlacco 1point
Obamaprobablyworksforthegovernment
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[] TheNaBr 38points
SandyHookneverhappened.
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Tellthattoallthedeadkids'parents.
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What?Iactuallydon'tunderstandhowyoucanmanufactureaschoolshooting.
Doyouhaveanysourcematerialtoreaduponthistheory?
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[] HeavenPiercingMan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
It'sbecausedumbassnutjobscan'tunderstandpeopleareemotionallyunstableduringintensegriefunlikeactorsinmovies(see
RealityIsUnrealisticinTVTropes)sotheysawsomeofthedeadkids'parentssmilingonthebackgroundforasecondduringthe
speeches,andintheirendlessquestfotTheNextConspiracyTMinterpreteditas"SEESEETHEYAREFAKESINCETHEYARE
NOTCRYINGTHEENTIRETIME"
Therestwasjustconfirmationbias.
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[] 2211abir 1point
Playingthedevilsadvocate,buthowdoyouknowithappened?Bytrustingthesourcesthatreportedit?Unlessyouwerethere,you
havetotrustsomeonetotakeitastruth.
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[] 6_Steel_Strings undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Imeanyeah...ButIhavefirsthandexperiencewithphotos.Justphotosingeneral,Imean.I'vecometolearnwhatareal
photolookslike,andgenerally,whatadoctoredonelookslike.
Butalsoyes,Itakepeopleswordforit,thatithappened.
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[] 2211abir undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Devil'sadvocateagain,photoscanbestaged.Imean,basicallyeverythingthatsupposedlyhappenedcouldhave
happened,butnotasthestoryportrayed.Thechildrencouldbekilled,theshootercouldactuallybeakidthatwas
somehowforcedtodoit,notbyhisowninitiative.
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[] TheNaBr 0points
It'satelevisionproduction.
ThisYoutubevideocoversitprettywell.
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Thereisevidenceofmanufacturednewseventsfromaroundtheworld.Arabsposeforprotestsandnewsorganizationsdoctor
imagestosupporttheiragendas.
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[] dacdacdac undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Evidenceofmanufacturednewseventsaroundtheworldiscompletelyirrelevanttowhetherthiseventwasmanufactured.
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[] TheNaBr undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
HencewhythefirstlinkisaboutSandyHookspecifically.
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Wellaintthatsomeshit...
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[] TheNaBr 1points
Traveldowntherabbithole.Peoplewillgetangryifyoutellthemyouquestionit.It'sweird.
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[] CatDad69 7points
What
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[] TheNaBr 16points
ZerochildrendiedatSandyHook.Itwasfabricated.
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[] sweetrolljim 9points
[CITATIONNEEDED]
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[] TheNaBr 5points
I'velinkedseveralsourcesthroughoutthethreadalready.
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[] Figgler 6points
Isthereagoodsourceforinformationaboutthis?I'veonlyheardtheideafromrightwingpeoplethatthinkObamaisouttotakeallour
guns.
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[] SealSoup 10points
Idon'tnecessarilythinkit'sspecificallyObama,buttherearedefinitelypeopleouttherewiththatagenda.
Whatwouldyouacceptasa"goodsource"though?Therearedetailsfloatingaroundthatdon'tmakesenseandcertain
inconsistencies.Likethemedicalexaminerretractingapreviousstatement.Likehimstatingthattheprimaryweaponusedwasan
assaultrifle,yettheyshowedpicturesofAdam'sopentrunkwiththeassaultrifleinit.Heapparentlyneverleftthebuildingsothere's
nowayhecouldhaveputitthere.Thegirlshowingupinpicturesafterhersupposeddeathbutclaimsthatitwasher"sister",yetthe
smileisthedistinguishingfactor.Facebookdonation/memorialpagescreateddaysbeforehand.Theinvolvementofcrisisactors
thatappearinmultiplenewsbroadcaststhroughtheyears.TheFEMA(Ithink)exercisesbeingorganizedaroundthetimeto
prepareforaresponsetomassshootings.Thefactthattheentireroadwaytotheschoolwasblockedinaerialphotographs,
meaningemergencyrespondersdidn'thaveclearaccesstoandfromtheschool.Absolutelynopicturesorvideoswhatsoever,even
thoughtherewasanapparentmassgatheringofpeople.Lackofcommunicationrecordsorevenproofofanybetweenofficerson
thegroundandthepolicechopper.
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[] Nebjamink undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Thisisridiculous,youguyshadagovernmentthatfordecadeswasspyingonitscitizensunnoticedthatonlygotuncovered
becausesomeoneleakedtheirfilesonitYetyoubelievetherewouldbethismanyinconsistenciesatanapparentlystaged
schoolshooting?It'sjustnitpickingatminordetailsandformingyourownnarrativeforit.Ithappened,dealwithit.
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[] SealSoup undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
spyingunnoticed
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Ha!
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[] zzubba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThelackofrespectyouhaveforthefamiliesoftheFUCKING7YEAROLDKIDSthatdiedisdisgusting
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[] dontfuckingcommentok undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Shutdownconversationsbecauseyourfeelingsarehurt.Goodplan.
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Theyusedtohave/r/conspiracythreadsaboutthis,someofthemwantedproofdirectlyfromthefamiliesthattherekids
evenexisted.
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[] Blain undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
IlivenearSandyHookandtheseghoulsshowuptotowncouncilmeetingsandthelikeallthetimedemandingto
seepicturesofdeadkids.Thepeopleinthisthreadaresickandneedtoseekseriousmedicalhelp.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=KkCB2Ee9cqw
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[] zzubba undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Verystrange.Haveyoueverlostsomeoneclosetoyou?Speakingfromexperience,laughingandjokingispretty
muchtheonlywaytogetyourmindoffthings.Certainlyapossibilityhere.
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YesIhavelostsomeoneclosetome.I'vebeentofuneralsoffriendswhohaveODed.Ihavebeenat
grandparentsfunerals.Smiles?Sometimes.Lackoftears?Never.
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[] barky_obama 10points
Iagree.
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[] SealSoup 18points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
ThatandthereportershootinginNorthCarolina.I'mnotusuallyonetobelieveinconspiracytheories,beaside9/11definitely
happened.Buttheseshootingsseemtobemanufactured,andthere'salotoffishydetailsaboutthem.
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[] Spooky_Ghost_AMA 13points
andthere'salotoffishydetailsaboutthem.
Pleasestatesomeofthem.
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ReadtherepliestothisoneandothersinthisthreadwhereIhave.
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[] TheNaBr 12points
ThereporterwasshotinVirginia.Thatonedoesseemalittlefishytoo,butitalmostseemslikeSandyHookhastoomuchevidence
againstit.Justtotallyweirdstuffallaround.
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[] SealSoup 9points
Madethecorrection.
Yeahitjustdoesn'taddup.Alloftheseshootingsalsoseemtohappentopeoplewithactorsintheirimmediatefamily.
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[] TheNaBr 8points
Thelackofimages,thedestructionoftheschool,thehandlingoftheshooting,thebehaviorofthecoroner,thebehavior
ofRobbieParker,thehappyfamiliesaftertheshooting,theChristmastreesbehindthefirestation,thepeople
wanderingaroundpurposefullyatthefirestation,theneighborthatsaidkidswereabandonedonhiscurb,etc.etc.
Tooweird.Toobizarre.
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[] sillykatface undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]
Couldyougimmeadecentlinktoanyofthisstuff?GenuineinterestedadI'veneverheardofthistheorybefore.
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[] dannygopher 2points
Soifsomethingis"tooweird"for\uTheNaBR/it'sfalse.
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hcphotographsfromstatesattorneyreportonsandyhookelementary
schoolshootingphotogallery.html
Thereareplentyofimagesnowavailable.
pleasetellmewhatyouthinknow.
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[] TheNaBr 2points
Also,asasidenote,whydoesmefindingSandyHooktobeahoaxoffendyousodeeply?
That'skindofpartofthehoax,the"Whowouldquestionit?"angle.
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Thoseareimaginesofahouse,guns,andbrokenwindows.Theyalsotookpicturesofvideogamesasif
thosearethecause.
Nobodies,noblood,nowitnessvideoes,nowitnesspictures,nopoliceofficerdashcams,noconclusive
evidence.
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[] dannygopher 0points
WhenIgethomeI'llfindadifferentalbumthathasmoreconclusiveevidence.
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[] TheNaBr 3points
IthinkthatwasthelamestphotogalleryI'veeverseenanditmakesmethinkI'mevenMOREcorrect.I
enjoyedthephotosofthedoorknobsthemost,sotelling.
Notasingledropofbloodinthatphotogallery.Multipleimagesofabrokenwindow.
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[] SealSoup 0points
Thesamesinglebrokenwindow.
Butwait!Thereareviolentvideogames.Conclusiveevidence.
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[] TheNaBr 1point
WhenIsawthedoorknobs,itblewmymind.
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[] dramboxf 7points
Whatareyoutalkingabout?I'mnotbeingconfrontational,butIhaven'theardanythingaboutanyofthethings
you'rementioning.
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[] Badbart_86 1points
Definitelydosomeresearchonthis.Iwasneveronetobelieveanyoftheconspiraciesbutthereissomuch
evidencethatstacksupagainsttheSandyHookshooting.Doalittlegooglingandyouwillhavedoubts
yourself.
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[] TheNaBr 5points
Well,that'sthegistofit.Here'sapresentationaboutit.
Basically,itwasthatitwasacontrolledmediaeventandthepeoplearoundtheeventareactors.Youonly
seewhatispresentedtoyouonTV.
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