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Since it is about
16 to 18.5k gold I would most likely inquart it, (melt
melt it with silver to lower karat),
karat (at
18% I might be able to just use nitric without inquarting, but to insure I got all the base
metals, I would “quarter” the gold with silver).
(NOTE: To inquart gold: 75% silver 25% gold. Melt together in a melting dish, and drop into metal bowl
with cold water to form “flakes”. See Steve’s video. Then follow the procedures
procedures stated below.)
Once you have syrup, add some HCl to wet solution and boil it again to syrup. Do this for
a total of three times,
times in order to eliminate nitric acid from the aqua regia solution (no
need to use urea).
Now we can add 3 times the water. This will dilute the acid to where the silver chloride
that it held, (this
this is some Ag that was still in the gold),
gold will come down as white cottage
cheese; let solution sit overnight and decant solution from silver chloride powder. Now
we can precipitate the gold from this yellow solution.
Butcher
leavemealone, post re: what is my wrong? Typically you want to use an equal amount of
SMB, as the amount of gold you estimate in your solution IE: if you figure there’s
roughly 3 grams of gold,
gold use 3 grams of SMB,
SMB then test your solution after decanting. (If
using copperas you need to double that figure.)
Johnny
The SMB can be used dry or wet it works either way.
The key is to use enough SMB to reduce all the gold to a metallic state. This usually
requires 1 gram of SMB per gram of gold to be reduced as a general rule of thumb. If you
don't get all the chlorine (HCl-Cl reaction) or nitrate (AR reaction) out of the solution the
amount of SMB needed could increase, typically not more than double the amount of
gold expected.
If you want to use water with your SMB, the solubility of SMB in water at 20C is 47 g
per 100 mL, so a pint of 20 C water (473 mL) can hold enough SMB when saturated to
reduce ( 47 x 4.73) 222.3 grams of gold at optimal conditions.
Steve
As for adding SMB,, I always add my SMB dry with lots of swirling of the beaker or
stirring with a glass rod.
rod Stannous tests afterward proves the gold is all precipitated.
Just two days ago the temperature outside was below 40F (~4C) at dusk. I precipitated a
batch of gold from solution, outside in the cold, with solid SMB in less than 2 minutes. I
added the SMB and swirled the flask, within one minute the solution turned dark brown.
Within 1 hour all the gold had settled nicely. The solution was filtered outside and was
completely cooled. Expect a slight delay of less than 2 minutes before the solution
changes to clear then brown.
I find that the removal of oxidizers from the gold solution to be the most important factor
when using SMB. All the free chlorine or NOx should be removed before adding dry
SMB. If you add a small amount of SMB and brown powder forms then re-dissolves, you
have free oxidizers in the solution.
Add small amounts of dry SMB with stirring, let it all dissolve, then add more if
necessary. Test with stannous once the brown cloud or sponge of gold settles.
Steve
Re: Best way to use SMB I use mine dry. Gold precipitates as a brown powder if the
solution is clean, and a more black colored if the solution is dirty. I never check pH when
using SMB.
Steve
Thank you Steve for your reply. I have seen the SMB precipitate out of solution as a
white powder by a metallurgist in Las Vegas on my chlorine solution. In your opinion
can it precipitate as a gold chloride?
Joyce if the solution contains copper II chloride and you add SMB, you will get an off
white to grey collared precipitate of copper I chloride along with your gold.
This contamination dissolves easily with warm HCl.
Steve
WASHING THE GOLD POWDER AFTER USING SMB – post by lazersteve
1) After precipitating the gold with SMB, test for gold in solution with stannous chloride,
if present (purple swab) add more SMB until test is negative.
Note the color of the results will be lighter if the concentration is low. The colors will
also vary if you have several of the metals in the same solution.
1. Let the gold powder settle to the bottom of the beaker over night.
2. Siphon or gently pour off the used SMB solution into an old milk jug labelled
Used SMB. Save in your stock pot or properly dispose of.
3. The gold powder stays in the same beaker you precipitated it in.
4. Add just enough water to cover the gold powder and boil for 5 minutes.
5. Let settle and pour or siphon off the water into the stock pot.
6. Repeat three times.
7. Add just enough muriatic acid to cover the gold powder.
8. Boil for 5 minutes and pour or siphon off into the stock pot after testing with
stannous. If gold is present keep in separate beaker to precipitate later.
9. Repeat until the acid is no longer discolored by the process.
10. Repeat the water rinse as above.
11. If you suspect silver is present as a contamination, repeat the process with hot 3%
household ammonium hydroxide (unscented- clear). Put these rinses in a separate
container and add muriatic acid until no more white silver chloride precipitates.
You have added enough HCl when there are no more white fumes coming out of
the liquid. Any karat, dental, cpu lid, or gold filled scrap will have silver as a
contaminate.
12. Finish up the rinses with three more hot water rinses. Put these rinses in with the
ammonium hydroxide rinses.
13. Gently heat the beaker containing the gold powder while swirling the beaker. As
the gold dries it will begin to clump and move around the beaker freely. Don't
allow the gold to stick to the beaker.
14. When the gold is 100% dry it should be a nice light tan color, if not re-dissolve it
and precipitate again with SMB. Repeating the above cleaning process after
precipitation. Good clean gold settles very quickly when precipitated and clumps
into nice balls when dried. No gold should be stuck to the beaker when you are
done.
15. When completed transfer the gold to a properly prepared melting dish and melt
into a button.
16. Steve
NOTE:
NOTE Check SMB solution for other metals that could be present before storing or
properly disposing of it!
I, philddreamer, took the liberty to compile some of the great information from a number
of different posts from the GRF.com, so to have a guide when processing my first batch
of inquarted gold. The result, a beautiful 13.4gm golden slug! Thank you, thank you,
thank you, all you brothers & sisters @ GRF.com. I could not have done it without you.