KCSO Case # 07-366042

Suspect Statement
MICHELE ANDERSON
DET:

The following is a tape-recorded conversation between Detective SCOTT
TOMPKINS of the King County Sheriff's Office and MICHELE ANDERSON.
The statement is taking place near Carnation, Washington. It’s in reference to
King County Sheriff’s Office case number 07-366042. Today’s date is 12-262007. The time is 11:17 hours. MICHELE, are you aware this statement is
being tape recorded?

SUS:

Yes; I am.

DET:

And do I have your permission to do that?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. Um, MICHELE, where do you live?

SUS:

I live at 1910 346th Avenue Northeast, Carnation, Washington 98014.

DET:

Okay. And who do you live there with?

SUS:

JOE MCENROE, my boyfriend.

DET:

How long have you known JOE?

SUS:

About six years.

DET:

Okay. Does somebody own the property where you live?

SUS:

JUDY and WAYNE ANDERSON.

DET:

And that’s your parents.

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

So you and JOE live in um, in a trailer down the hill from your parents’ place.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And what’s your parents’ address?

SUS:

1806 346th Avenue Northeast, Carnation, Washington 98014.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

What’s the zip?

SUS:

98014.

DET:

Okay. And you told me their name is JUDY and WAYNE ANDERSON, and
they live alone, correct.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

All right. Um, you also told me that there should be two cars at your house, a
black Chevy S10, which you have parked at the end of the driveway here.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

Yes.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And then also a blue Chevy Iroc.

SUS:

Well, there’s um, a blue Chevy S10.

DET:

Right, that doesn’t run.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

(unintelligible)

SUS:

That doesn’t run that’s also there.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And there’s a blue Datsun pickup truck that’s there, but it’s not mine.

DET:

Okay, and then the Iroc should be there too.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Um, now you also have a sister named MARY VICTORIA ANDERSON.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

Is that correct?

SUS:

Yeah.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

You told me that she lives in North Bend.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

She, she lives alone, um, or she has two kids, but she doesn’t have a
boyfriend or a husband, correct?

SUS:

I don’t know. I think she has a boyfriend on and off.

DET:

Do you know his name?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Okay. And she drives a gray Dodge pickup, a full-size pickup that’s in the late
90s or 2000s, correct.

SUS:

Yeah. It’s like either late 90s or early 2000s.

DET:

Okay. Um, you also have a brother named SCOTT.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And where does SCOTT live?

SUS:

He lives in Black Diamond.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I don’t know the zip code.

DET:

All right. You told me that he has a wife, ERICA.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

And that they have two children, a boy, who’s three, named NATHAN and a
daughter named OLIVIA, who is five or six.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And they drive a white ah, Dodge pickup.

SUS:

Yeah, full size.

DET:

Full size, okay. When, going back to Christmas Eve, today’s the day after
Christmas.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Okay.

DET:

So Christmas Eve was Monday, right.

SUS:

Okay.

DET:

You told me that’s when you last saw your mother.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What about, what about your father?

SUS:

Yeah. He was there.

DET:

Okay. And what are the circumstances in which you saw them?

SUS:

They were making a roast and wrapping presents for the kids.

DET:

Okay. And do you know what time of day that was?

SUS:

It was in the morning.

DET:

All right. Ah, was JOE there too?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Did you guys walk up to visit ‘em?

SUS:

We drove up.

DET:

Okay, in the, what car?

SUS:

Black truck, the Chevy S10.

DET:

And you told me that your dad was kind of a Christmas Eve guy.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What were the plans for the day on Christmas Eve?

SUS:

Well, they celebrate Christmas Eve with the kids, and, and I just wanted to
come up and say hi ‘cause we were gonna surprise everybody. We’re getting
married finally because we’ve been dating for so long.

DET:

You and JOE.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

We don’t really celebrate Christmas much ourselves.

DET:

You’re talking about you and JOE.

SUS:

Yeah. It’s a kids’ holiday.

DET:

Okay, but when you went up there, it was just your parents there.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

All right. And how did they react to you guys getting married?

SUS:

Oh, they’re happy.

DET:

So you told them.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

All right. And then what were your plans for Christmas Eve?

SUS:

Well, I was just gonna, we were just gonna go out and get, start driving down
to Vegas.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

But I forgot my wallet, so we came back. I don’t know what time that was.

DET:

Okay. And then what happened?

SUS:

We went back out, you know, to go drive towards Vegas.

DET:

Okay. Then what happened?

SUS:

Well, my um, we got a little lost, and then um, got back on track, and my, my
tire blew out during nighttime, so we came back up here.

DET:

Where did the tire blow out at?

SUS:

Oh, I think it was someplace called Kelso.

DET:

Okay, so in Washington State.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

All right. What time do you think you left your house up here to go to Vegas?

SUS:

I have no idea.

DET:

Was it after you saw your mom?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

And you said that was in the morning.

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. And then did you stop along the way?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Where did you stop at?

SUS:

We stopped at um, just off the side of the road a lot and at gas stations and
um, we were off on the side of the road too when the tire blew out and.

DET:

Why were you stopped on the side of the road?

SUS:

We had a cat with us, and she just kept freaking out.

DET:

About what?

SUS:

About traveling, we keep pulling over.

DET:

Okay. Um, well, let’s see, I want, I want you to think hard, okay. This is kind of,
it might not seem important to you, but it’s kind of important to me, everywhere
you went once you left this house on your trip to Vegas.

SUS:

Well, we went the wrong way. We went through Monroe accidentally.

DET:

So you’re heading to Vegas, but you went through Monroe.

SUS:

Yeah, accidently.

DET:

How, how did you manage that?

SUS:

Well, I just didn’t know which way was north and south.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Oh, who was driving?

SUS:

I was.

DET:

Okay. You a good driver?

SUS:

I’m a good driver. I’m just not used to driving a lot of places.

DET:

Yeah. When did you get your license?

SUS:

When I was sixteen.

DET:

Okay. Did you finish high school?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And did you go to any college?

SUS:

A couple classes at BCC.

DET:

Okay, what do you do for a living?

SUS:

I don’t have a job right now.

DET:

After you um, found out you were in Monroe, then what happened?

SUS:

Turned around, and we went through, well, went through Snohomish then
through Everett and just were making the loop.

DET:

Okay. So you come back down highway 2. You go through Everett.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Then what happens? Did you stop in Everett?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Where’s the first spot you stopped?

SUS:

I don’t remember.

DET:

Were you drinking or anything?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Okay.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

I was just tired.

DET:

Just tired.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

I understand. And after you swing through Everett, what happens?

SUS:

Well, I don’t remember. I think we went, I think we went through Redmond.

DET:

Okay. Did you stop in Redmond?

SUS:

No.

DET:

All right.

SUS:

520 freeway (unintelligible)

DET:

Okay. Then what happened?

SUS:

I wanted some of the, some of the fruit we’d left behind. We came back up
here and got that.

DET:

Why did you want fruit?

SUS:

You know, ‘cause we have so much on the counter that we forgot to bring with
us.

DET:

In your trailer?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. What kind of fruit was it?

SUS:

Apples and oranges.

DET:

All right.

SUS:

And then we went back out, and I took 18.

DET:

Okay. So you come back here and get apples and oranges.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Did you talk to your parents then?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

No. I just went there to my house and then left.

DET:

Okay. Was it dark when you did that?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

So it was after say 5 o’clock or so.

SUS:

Yeah. I didn’t talk to anybody. We just went in the house and got (unintelligible)

DET:

Okay. But MICHELE, I just want to get this straight. You leave your home
sometime in the morning. You drive through Monroe.

SUS:

I don’t know when we left though.

DET:

Okay. Well, let’s say, was it before noon?

SUS:

No.

DET:

After noon?

SUS:

After noon.

DET:

Okay, 2, 3, what?

SUS:

I think like 4 or 5.

DET:

4 of 5.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay, but you last saw your mom in the morning.

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

So you make the circle through Everett.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

And then you come back out on 90 to go to your house to pick up fruit.

SUS:

No. We went on 202.

DET:

202.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

520, 202.

DET:

From down from Redmond.

SUS:

Well, we were on I 45.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

We went on 520 and then 202.

DET:

All right, um.

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET:

It’s okay. Did you stop anywhere along there, any gas stations or anything?

SUS:

We did when we went back out. We stopped at Issaquah.

DET:

After the fruit?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

All right.

SUS:

We stopped at the Issaquah gas station across from the police station.

DET:

Issaquah gas station across from the police station.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. And did you go inside?

SUS:

No.

DET:

What did you do then?

SUS:

I put gas in the car.

DET:

Okay. What did JOE do?

SUS:

He stayed in the car.

DET:

All right, ‘cause you’re driving, right.

SUS:

I’m the only registered (unintelligible)

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Sure.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Then what happens once you gas up?

SUS:

We got.

DET:

Is it the Chevron there, or what was it?

SUS:

I think it’s Chevron, but it might be Shell. I don’t remember what it’s called.

DET:

Okay. This was Christmas Eve night by then, right?

SUS:

I think so. I don’t know when it was.

DET:

All right. And then where did you go?

SUS:

I think it was 18, down 18, I think. It was either I 90 or 18. I don’t remember.

DET:

All right. And you’re still heading to Vegas.

SUS:

Yeah, but I got lost ‘cause I couldn’t figure out how to get on to I 5 from 18, so I
was trying to figure out if I should just take I 90 and 405 or, or just try to go on
18 and figure it out, and I don’t remember which way we went.

DET:

Okay, and.

SUS:

We made it on I 5, and we followed that all the way down, and my tire blew out
in Kelso (unintelligible)

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

We made a lot of stops on the side of the road because of the cat.

DET:

All right. So when did your tire blow out?

SUS:

That was like, I think, 4 a.m. I’m not sure.

DET:

4 a.m. on Christmas Eve night, or it gets to be Christmas morning by then,
right.

SUS:

I’m confused. Our car, the tire blew out, and I came back here, so is that
Christmas?

DET:

Well, yesterday was Christmas.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Oh.

DET:

And today is Wednesday the 26th.

SUS:

Well, then it was this morning.

DET:

This morning at 4 your, your tire blew out.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

In Kelso.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. So we know you’re in Kelso at 4 this morning.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Where are you between 5 o’clock Christmas Eve and 4 a.m. last night?

SUS:

We’re on the road, but we kept stopping.

DET:

You can cover a lot of ground in that time; can’t you?

SUS:

Yeah. I just don’t remember. We came back home.

DET:

Why’s that?

SUS:

I just can’t remember how long we were at home ‘cause we got fruit, and we
went back out, but we were here for a couple hours; and that was Christmas
though.

DET:

On Christmas day.

SUS:

Yeah. I don’t remember (unintelligible)

DET:

It’s all right. Did you sleep at all?

SUS:

Took a nap.

DET:

Okay. Where did you take a nap at?

SUS:

In the trailer.

DET:

So then you drove all night long until 4 this morning.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Did you sleep at all during the night?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

JOE slept in the truck. We…

DET:

And you just drove.

SUS:

Um hum. We kept pulling over because of the cat.

DET:

All right. Now I used to have a S10. Those aren’t real good on gas, so you
probably have to gas up a lot if you’re gonna drive all that time, right.

SUS:

Yeah, like four times.

DET:

Okay. Do you remember any other places you got gas?

SUS:

Monroe, Issaquah, Kelso, and (unintelligible)

DET:

Did you pay with gas with a credit, pay for the gas?

SUS:

Credit card.

DET:

A credit, whose credit card?

SUS:

Well, a couple times Joe. I have my own credit card.

DET:

Is it like a Chevron card, or what is it?

SUS:

I have a Target visa, and he has a Providian visa, and we’re (unintelligible)
cash (unintelligible)

DET:

Okay. And then you had a blowout.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

But you had a spare with you.

SUS:

Yeah, but we called the um, service because I didn’t know I had a car jack.

DET:

So who did you call for service?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

The G.M. ‘cause I, I’m under warranty.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And, and the tow truck, I called the dispatcher, and they said the nearest
person was Bumble Bee Towing, and the guy came out, and he um, and he
was jacking the car, but the um, my full-size spare had an after-market chain
on it, and I didn’t know that, like a padlock. So we had to wait, we had to wait
for another tow truck guy to come out with a bolt cutter.

DET:

Okay. So did you call Bumble Bee Towing?

SUS:

No. I called G.M., and they dispatched Bumble Bee.

DET:

Okay, but Bumble Bee came out.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

And where’s that, out of Kelso?

SUS:

It was on the freeway, southbound on I-5.

DET:

All right. Okay. If you had a spare, how come you didn’t keep going back to
Vegas?

SUS:

‘Cause I thought that this was too much work, and we were just gonna fly. I
was scared.

DET:

Do you have money to fly?

SUS:

Yeah. I’ve got a lot of money in my savings.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET:

But you just, you mentioned you didn’t have a job, so I.

SUS:

I’m, I have money in savings.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

JOE was working up until recently.

DET:

Okay. Um, had you made any flight plans?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

No.

Det. Sue Peters enters the car & the interview.
DET:

Okay. MICHELE, this is my ah, partner SUE.

DET2:

Hi, MICHELE.

SUS:

Hi.

DET:

Can you move the seat up, MICHELE.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

Ah, Detective PETERS is joining us for this recorded conversation. Is that okay
with you, MICHELE?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

We’re just trying to work back through the um, the timeline here. Now you’d
also mentioned to me that you came back at one point to collect a wallet.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

Was that a different time than the fruit?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Where were you when you discovered you did not have your wallet?

SUS:

We were in Monroe.

DET:

Okay. So that was like the first gas stop.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

All right. And then you came back here to grab your wallet, yes.

SUS:

Yeah, yes.

DET:

And then you left again.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And that’s when you got lost.

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SUS:

I got lost before we came back.

DET:

Okay. And then you came back to grab the fruit off the table.

SUS:

Yeah, but we, in-between getting the wallet and the fruit we took a nap here.

DET:

At the house.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. So how many times, once you left to go to Vegas to get married, how
many times did you return to your trailer?

SUS:

I think twice.

DET:

And do you know what days or times those were?

SUS:

It just blurs ‘cause I don’t look at anything.

DET:

Now.

SUS:

But I don’t mean to sound stupid.

DET:

No. And I’ll explain all this in a minute as to why this is important, but.

SUS:

I just don’t pay attention.

DET:

I don’t, I don’t blame you a bit.

SUS:

Now I look dumb.

DET:

Um, where are the, where’s the fruit right now? Is it still in your SUV or your
S10?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. And what about the spare, is it in the back?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

The blowout.

SUS:

Yeah.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Um, anything else you can tell me? Did you see anybody you know while you
were on this trip?

SUS:

Uh um.

DET:

Okay. Did you use your cell phone at all?

SUS:

I called G.M.

DET:

Oh, so you did use your cell phone for that. What’s your cell phone number?

SUS:

425-829-0831.

DET:

Okay. And um, does JOE have a cell phone?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What’s that?

SUS:

425, I think, 108-1922.

DET:

Okay. And what services are those? Is that Verizon or what?

SUS:

T-Mobile.

DET:

Both of ‘em? You have to say yes or no because of the recording.

SUS:

Oh, sorry; T-Mobile, yes.

DET:

Thank you.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

That’s okay. I’m sure this is all…., um, did you make any phone calls while you
were on this trip?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Now, SUE, you might have missed this, but she said on Christmas Eve, right,
you see your parents Christmas Eve morning.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And you notify them that you and JOE are gonna get married in, in Vegas.

SUS:

Um hum.

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DET:

And they’re happy because you guys have been dating a long time, correct?

SUS:

Um hum, yeah.

DET:

Um, they’re wrapping gifts, and then you and JOE leave to go to Vegas.

SUS:

Yeah. Well, we go down to the house and leave later to go.

DET:

Later in the day.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Did your parents give you any um, money?

SUS:

No.

DET:

No?

DET:

They give you any presents?

SUS:

Well, I got a, a Simpsons movie the day before.

DET:

From your?

SUS:

Like when I was out shopping with my mom on Saturday, and she just got me
the Simpsons movie.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And that’s all I wanted. I just, I told her it was a kids’ holiday; don’t waste
money. It’s a kids’ holiday.

DET:

No. I don’t blame you.

SUS:

You know.

DET:

I don’t blame you a bit.

SUS:

I know the check engine light went on in the truck too, so we were debating
even going at all, you know. That’s one of the reasons why we came back.

DET:

Whose idea was it to come back?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Mine because I kept worrying about the truck, and the check engine light came
on; and then I thought well, maybe we’ll just go back out and hit a dealership
on the way down and fix it.

DET:

Did you call and talk to your mom and dad at all ah, on Christmas day?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Is that unusual?

SUS:

No. We always celebrate Christmas Eve, so Christmas doesn’t mean anything.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

You know.

DET:

What about your sisters, did you call and wish them a merry Christmas?

SUS:

Well, I talked to her on Saturday. Well, I didn’t; mom did for me ‘cause we were
out shopping, and I told her to tell her Merry Christmas.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

We don’t usually see them on Christmas Eve. I don’t know why, but she’s
never over for Christmas Eve, I think.

DET:

Who’s that?

SUS:

My sister.

DET:

Ah, MARY?

SUS:

Um hum. She never spends Christmas Eve with us, ever.

DET:

Okay. Um, so you did not call them.

SUS:

Hut um.

DET:

Okay. Um, SUE, do you have any questions, some time frame questions?

DET2:

Well, I just curious; um, how long, how long have you been planning to get
married, or is that something just out of the blue?

SUS:

We just out of the blue decided we’d finally just do it, you know. But we’ve
been thinking off and on for a while, you know.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

What day, what day did he propose to you?

SUS:

We just, just, Christmas Eve we thought that’d be a great idea, so we don’t
have an engagement ring or anything. We just thought we’d just do it.

DET:

Sure.

SUS:

You know, it..

DET:

Where were your, where were your, where’s your hotel ah, reservations down
in Vegas?

SUS:

We, we didn’t make any yet. We just thought we’d just go.

DET:

Just go?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Did you tell anybody about your plans to go down there, like a girlfriend
or anybody?

SUS:

(negative)

DET:

You just went?

SUS:

Just went.

DET:

Okay.

DET2:

Did you use ah, cash or debit cards?

SUS:

Um, credit cards.

DET2:

Credit cards.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

We, we, we covered that. She has a Target visa.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And then ah.

SUS:

JOE has a Providian visa.

DET:

Yeah. She used that for gas purchases.

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SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Several times. Um, what’s your relationship like with your parents?

SUS:

It’s fine, you know. They um, I’m a little sad that my sister doesn’t get to come
over very much, and ah, but they don’t seem to hate her or anything. It just, my
dad doesn’t really like her side of the, my mom’s side of the family.

DET:

Um hum.

SUS:

And, and my sister is a stepsister, so from a different husband, so she’s always
not been invited for Christmas.

DET:

You’re talking about ERICA?

SUS:

No, MARY.

DET:

MARY.

SUS:

MARY’s my stepsister.

DET:

MARY is your stepsister.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

And SCOTT is your brother.

SUS:

Yeah, and ERICA is my sister-in-law.

DET:

Sister-in-law, I gotcha.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What do your parents, how do they feel about JOE?

SUS:

They like him.

DET:

And why do you, how do you know that?

SUS:

Because I asked ‘em.

DET2:

Did they get JOE anything for Christmas?

SUS:

I think some kind of a vanilla cologne thing…. I told ‘em don’t worry about it,
you know.

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DET2:

Where’s the cologne at now?

SUS:

I don’t know. They just, they told me about it. I just was like, just give it to
SCOTT, you know.

DET:

Okay. This, this Iroc that you have at, at your house, um, where are the keys
for that?

SUS:

It’s in my nightstand.

DET:

Okay, is there just one set of keys?

SUS:

Two.

DET:

And are both, do you, where, are both keys in the nightstand?

SUS:

Yeah. They’re in a plastic bag with a bunch of keys.

DET:

Why would you keep your keys to your car in a plastic bag?

SUS:

Because I can’t drive the Iroc. The, the trunk is broken, so I can’t drive it
anywhere. It won’t close, and nobody knows how to fix it, so I was just gonna
sell it. It’s just sitting there (unintelligible) I want to sell it. I was gonna try to fix
it, but I don’t know how.

DET:

But it does run.

SUS:

It does, but the battery’s in the garage.

DET:

Okay. And when, when you, when you left the house, where was the Iroc
parked?

SUS:

In the, there’s a, a carport next to the garage, and it’s backed in there in front
of a generator.

DET:

So it’s covered in there or just?

SUS:

It’s, it’s under the carport.

DET:

Oh, under the carport, okay.

SUS:

But it has a tarp over the trunk because the trunk’s broken.

DET:

Okay. Um, we had a question. Did, does JOE own any firearms?

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SUS:

He used to.

DET:

What were those?

SUS:

Two handguns.

DET:

Were they registered to either you or JOE?

SUS:

I have one registered to me and one registered to him because when we were
living in Kent, there was, people tried to bash in my Firebird in the parking lot.
And we bought them to defend ourselves, and we never had to use ‘em, and I
just felt sick from it, so I said lets just, never use them again and I haven’t seen
‘em since.

DET:

What happened to ‘em?

SUS:

I think they’re still in storage.

DET:

Where at?

SUS:

You know, I think it’s in my back room, you know.

DET:

In, in your trailer or your trailer here?

SUS:

I think so.

DET:

Now what caliber were these guns?

SUS:

I don’t remember. I don’t know much about guns.

DET:

Do you hold ‘em in your hand, or do you put ‘em to your shoulder?

SUS:

It’s a hand.

DET:

Handgun.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Do you know who made ‘em, like a Glock or Smith and Wesson?

SUS:

Uh uh.

DET2:

Do you remember what size they were? Were they like a little, a little gun for a
lady, or was it like a, more like a bigger gun for a guy?

SUS:

Just like a, a regular gun, you know.

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DET2:

What color?

SUS:

Black.

DET:

Did you ever shoot ‘em?

SUS:

Just once, and it was really hard to hold on to it, cause it’s just weird.

DET:

Yeah. Do you still have some ammunition for those guns in your house, in your
trailer?

SUS:

No.

DET:

I’m gonna flip this tape over. The time is ah, 11:41.

End of Tape 1, Side A
Tape 1, Side B
DET:

Okay. The time is 11:41. We’re back on tape. Um, I guess I’m kind of confused
still a little bit. Where did you guys spend last night?

SUS:

We were driving.

DET2:

Did you not go to bed last night?

SUS:

Uh uh; I took a nap during the day here a little bit you know.

DET:

MICHELE, Spokane’s on the other side of the state, right.

SUS:

I don’t know which direction. Is that south?

DET2:

Did you go over Snoqualmie Pass?

SUS:

I didn’t go over mountains.

DET:

Okay.

DET2:

See snow?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

I guess my, my point being is that in six hours you can be out of state.

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SUS:

I know.

DET:

So where were you guys from Christmas Eve, Christmas Eve basically
evening?

SUS:

We went out, came back, took a nap for a couple hours, and then went back
out and then came back up here, and I, and I hit the bank on the way up after
we got the tire fixed.

DET2:

Are you in your same clothes?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Since the 24th?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

This is what you wore Christmas Eve day.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Do you have a wedding dress or anything in the car?

SUS:

No. We just, we’re not formal or traditional or anything. We’re just, I know
we’re kind of stupid.

DET2:

Kind of laid back.

SUS:

Yeah. I just, I don’t care about tradition.

DET2:

I have, I have a couple questions just for timeline purposes because I wasn’t
here. You last saw your mom at what time roughly?

SUS:

It was in the morning.

DET2:

And what was she doing? You said something about wrapping presents.

SUS:

She was wrapping presents for the kids.

DET2:

And what room was she in?

SUS:

In the spare room.

DET2:

Do you remember what presents she was wrapping? Did she show you some
of the kids’ gifts?

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SUS:

Yeah. I saw a toy pickup truck on the floor.

DET2:

Was that gonna be wrapped for someone?

SUS:

I think so. It was just sitting there. I think they were gonna wrap it.

DET2:

And who all was home?

SUS:

My dad and my mom.

DET2:

Were there a lot of presents wrapped under the tree?

SUS:

There was a couple.

DET2:

A couple

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And what were your mom’s plans that day?

SUS:

They were gonna celebrate Christmas with the kids.

DET2:

What time were the kids coming over?

SUS:

I don’t know. They didn’t know either, but we left before they got here, so I
have no idea.

DET2:

Okay. Well, what time did you wake up in the morning, to help my timeline
here.

SUS:

Christmas Eve morning?

DET2:

Yeah.

DET:

That’s Monday morning.

SUS:

I don’t remember. I think maybe 8…maybe 7…. I don’t know.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

7, I don’t know.

DET2:

So then you went up. Did you walk up, or did you drive up?

SUS:

We drove up.

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DET2:

You drove up, you and JOE.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET2:

In what car?

SUS:

The pickup truck.

DET2:

Okay. And who was JOE visiting with at the house?

SUS:

Both of my parents.

DET2:

And that’s when you broke the news.

SUS:

Yes. Yes.

DET2:

And what did your ah, is he your father or stepfather?

SUS:

No; those are both my.

DET2:

Parents.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

What did they think?

SUS:

They thought it was great.

DET2:

Both?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And what time do you think that was that you told them?

SUS:

I don’t know. It was just, before noon.

DET2:

Okay. Well, that helps, before noon.

SUS:

Yeah, in the morning.

DET2:

Okay. And then what next after you said your goodbye?

SUS:

We went back down to the house and we pack up some things, and we
decided to go out (unintelligible) and um.

DET2:

Tell me what you packed up.

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SUS:

Just, you know, the phone and some clothes.

DET2:

What kind of phone?

SUS:

Cell phone.

DET2:

Cell phone, clothes.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

How many pairs of pants did you take?

SUS:

Um, I didn’t take any. I have, I have one pair of pants, and they’re ripped, so I
just thought I’d just buy some when we were out. I’ve been wearing the same
pants all year.

DET:

You’ve got more money for somebody that’s unemployed than anybody I know.
I need to get one of those jobs.

SUS:

I know. I’m just.

DET2:

I’m trying to figure out how many days you packed for.

SUS:

I know I sound stupid.

DET:

No; you don’t, MICHELE. We’re just trying to work out, this out. I’m just joking
with you.

SUS:

I wear the same thing all the time.

DET2:

That’s not a big deal. We’re just trying to see how many days you packed for;
how many days were you planning on being gone?

SUS:

Just two.

DET2:

Two days.

DET:

How much clothes ah, do you have in the S, S10?

SUS:

I have two pairs of underwear, two pairs of socks, and I think an extra shirt.

DET:

And that’s in a duffle bag.

SUS:

In a backpack.

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DET:

And what about JOE?

SUS:

I packed a couple shirts and a buttoned up shirt with a plaid liner.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And some socks and he wears boxers.

DET2:

What about bathroom stuff?

SUS:

Yeah. We got toothbrushes and toothpaste and um, mouthwash.

DET:

So after you pack up, then what do you do?

SUS:

I was playing some video games for a little while.

DET:

Down at your trailer.

SUS:

Yeah, but.

DET2:

Anybody on the computer? Does the computer work?

SUS:

We have a computer.

DET2:

Anybody on it?

SUS:

We went on it on Christmas when we came back up laid down.

DET2:

I got mixed up. Did they leave Christmas?

DET:

They left Christmas Eve about.

SUS:

Came back.

DET:

What did you say, about 5 o’clock?

SUS:

Yeah, somewhere around there. I don’t know what time it was.

DET:

Okay, and then.

DET2:

Was it dark?

SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

It was dark out.

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SUS:

Yeah. Well, we left a couple times. We came back. And I know we slept or we
played computer games, and I know we um, ‘cause we weren’t, the check
engine light came on in the truck, and we weren’t sure. We weren’t sure if we
were going to even do it. We were gonna back out of it. And then we thought,
well, we’ll just fix it. We went back out.

DET:

Did you make contact with your parents when you came back?

SUS:

No. We’re wishy-washy.

DET2:

Okay. So I’m, I’m trying to get ah, any information. Did you go online to check
the weather, or do you have online?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Any computer work on the Christmas day?

SUS:

I, I sent out merry Christmas on my myspace page.

DET:

What’s your myspace page?

SUS:

It’s um, I don’t know what the number is.

DET2:

Do you have a?

SUS:

I have an e-mail to it.

DET2:

Okay. What’s that?

SUS:

Um, muscle underscore car underscore fever at yahoo dot com.

DET2:

Muscle.

SUS:

Underscore car underscore fever at yahoo dot com.

DET2:

And you sent the merry Christmas thing on your myspace on Christmas day.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Morning, afternoon, or evening?

SUS:

I don’t remember. I don’t.

DET2:

Were you here Christmas evening?

SUS:

We left.

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DET:

That was last night.

SUS:

We left when it was dark.

DET:

You left again.

SUS:

Yeah. But we stayed, we stayed at home for a couple hours.

DET:

Okay, um.

SUS:

I sleep usually during the day, and we drive and stuff at night.

DET2:

Okay. That makes sense.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

What about, do you have a landline?

SUS:

Um hum.

DET2:

What’s your number?

SUS:

425-333-0046.

DET2:

Did you make any calls?

SUS:

No. No.

DET:

So after you leave the second time.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

What do you do? Well, actually, what, again, what was the purpose for coming
back that first time?

SUS:

Wall, we were kind of lost and the check, check engine light came on, and we
weren’t sure if we should just not drive or not. We figured, no; let’s just, let’s
just drive.

DET:

So you came back and assessed the situation then decided to go.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay.

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SUS:

And then when the, when the tire blew out, we were just like just fly.

DET2:

Where was that at?

SUS:

In Kelso.

DET:

She said they called Bumble Bee Towing out of Kelso, and she used her cell
phone to call G.M.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

Is that what you said, because ah, she still has a warranty on the S10.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay.

DET2:

Sorry.

DET:

That’s okay. She wasn’t here for some of that, so I’m just filling her in.

DET2:

Was that in the morning, afternoon, or evening that the tire blew out?

SUS:

That was 4 a.m. around.. around that time.

DET:

So but, but you left here when it’s dark out on Christmas day.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

And then you just drove until 4 this morning when you had the blowout.

SUS:

Yeah, but we stopped a lot.

DET:

For?

SUS:

The cat kept freaking out jumping all over.

DET:

Whose cat is it?

SUS:

It’s mine. She just showed up. She was homeless. I just took her in.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

She probably should have checked shelters, but she was so skinny I didn’t
think anybody wanted her.

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DET:

All right.

DET2:

What is this about the wallet situation?

SUS:

I forgot my wallet when I left my house, and I came back for it.

DET:

So you came back for your wallet.

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

You came back for your fruit.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And you came back to assess whether you should drive to Vegas or not.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

So you came back a total of three times.

SUS:

Two.

DET:

Two.

SUS:

I think it was two.

DET2:

Wallet, fruit…

SUS:

But when we were out and we got, we got lost, and I didn’t have my wallet, so
we came back. Or maybe it was three. I don’t remember if it was two or three.

DET2:

Where did you get lost? I missed that.

SUS:

We went to Monroe instead of, the opposite.

DET:

Have you ever driven to Vegas before?

SUS:

I’ve ridden with my mom before, but I didn’t pay any attention.

DET:

What’s the furthest you’ve driven on your own?

SUS:

Within Washington.

DET:

No, all together.

SUS:

No. I mean, I’ve never driven outside of Washington.

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DET:

Oh, oh, you’ve never driven outside of Washington.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

But have you driven to Vancouver or?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

Portland?

SUS:

Uh uh.

DET2:

What about JOE, is he familiar with the area?

SUS:

Uh uh. No. When I met him, he lived on the east coast and fly out.

DET:

What kind of temper does JOE have?

SUS:

He’s really laid back.

DET:

Does he treat you pretty good? Any problems between you two?

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET2:

Does he work?

SUS:

He just quit his job.

DET:

What did he do?

SUS:

He was working at Target, and about.

DET2:

Which one?

SUS:

The one in Issaquah. Yeah. And um, they, they wanted him to be a lead.

DET:

A lead.

SUS:

Yeah, and then they decided that his training was taking too long, and they
wanted to bring somebody else in. And I just figured, you know, why don’t you
just become electrician instead of, you know. At the time there was a lot of the
day, the day crew people were getting all the credit, and he was really working
really hard at night, and I just, I just thought, well, everybody thought he was
really great if they want to make him a lead, or they changed their mind on that
too, and I thought let’s just have you quit, and you become an electrician.

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DET:

Sure.

SUS:

You know.

DET:

Um, I, I just want to clarify maybe for SUE’s benefit. While you were on the
road heading to Vegas when you’re getting lost on that, did you use your cell
phone to call anybody?

SUS:

Uh um.

DET:

And you never checked in with your parents for Christmas day or anything like
that or to tell ‘em, hey, we’re gonna go; we’re, we’re, we’ve made it this far, or
nothing.

SUS:

Hut um.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I don’t usually talk to ‘em that much.

DET:

I understand.

SUS:

I don’t want nobody to think I’m stupid.

DET:

I understand. This is.

DET2:

What, what about JOE, his family, I don’t know anything. Did you already cover
that?

SUS:

He doesn’t talk to his family.

DET2:

He doesn’t have any friends in this area?

DET:

Did he use his cell?

SUS:

He has friends at work. He didn’t use his phone.

DET:

At all?

SUS:

Uh um.

DET:

Okay. Your parents live and you live in a pretty quiet setting out here, correct.

SUS:

Yeah.

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DET:

Kind of in the country, so to speak.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

All right. When you came home, what did you see at your, at the easement
road to your property?

SUS:

My car was still there.

DET:

I, I mean today, right now.

SUS:

I see a row of cars.

DET:

Okay. Was there some media members out front?

SUS:

There was a van that had a weird thing on it.

DET:

Okay. Ah, was there some sheriff’s cars there?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET:

Well, did you see a lot of police cars when you pulled in?

SUS:

I just saw a lot of these type of cars.

DET:

Okay, and there’s cars lining your whole driveway, right.

SUS:

Well, this isn’t our driveway. I thought they was here for the WILSONs.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

You know, this is technically the WILSONs property.

DET:

No. I, I, MICHELE, I understand. I’m just saying this is unusual, correct.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Um, when you and I were talking, they brought in this big RV um, from the
Sheriff’s Office. Didn’t they?

SUS:

It was a big RV.

DET:

Remember that.

DET2:

Motor home.

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SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Yeah. And they also had some helicopters in the air; didn’t they?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

People running around in uniform and things like that.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What’s the one question you asked me when we first sat down?

SUS:

If my car was stolen.

DET:

Right. Um, did the deputy at the road, I mean obviously they didn’t let you
drive down here. What did they tell you?

SUS:

They, they didn’t tell us anything. They said, park the car.

DET:

Okay. What do you think all these police cars are here for?

SUS:

I think the house is on fire.

DET:

Why do you think that?

SUS:

There’s, the last time I saw helicopters here was when the old house was on
fire.

DET:

How did that fire start?

SUS:

I think it was a chimney fire, and ADOLPH used to live down there.

DET:

Okay. So whose house do you think is on fire?

SUS:

Probably my mom and dad’s, because I wasn’t home.

DET:

Are you at all concerned about them?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Do you think me wearing this Sheriff’s jacket, I’d be in a position to know such
a thing? Yes or No?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Why didn’t you ask me?

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SUS:

I’m just, I thought I wasn’t supposed to ask any of that?

DET:

Why?

SUS:

I thought you’d get mad.

DET:

I, I wouldn’t of got mad. You can ask me anything you want. You ever seen this
many police cars in one place at one time?

SUS:

When the house was on fire.

DET:

Was it that many police cars, or was it fire car, fire trucks here?

SUS:

It was police and fire.

DET:

Have you seen one fire truck since you’ve been here?

SUS:

No..

DET2:

What do you think happened?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET2:

Take a guess.

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET:

MICHELE, is there anything, anything you want to tell us?

SUS:

My, my dad might of, my dad might of got a heart attack.

DET:

Police don’t come out for heart attacks.

DET2:

Do you think something happened to your family?

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET:

Why?

SUS:

Because all these cars, and I don’t know what else it would be.

DET:

Would you ever harm your family?

SUS:

No.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Would you ever cover up for somebody who did?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

I think you might know a little bit more about why we’re here; and you have to
talk to SCOTT and I about that.

DET:

MICHELE, let me tell you a couple things we’re really good at…

SUS:

It’s my fault.

DET:

What happened?

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

I know you are.

SUS:

How would you know?

DET:

Tell us what happened.

DET2:

It’s okay. Sometimes things get out of hand.

DET:

MICHELE, I know you’re sorry.

SUS:

I’m not a bad person( crying ).

DET:

No one’s saying you are a bad person, but we, we.

SUS:

It’s not JOE’s fault. It’s all me.

DET:

Okay. What happened?

DET2:

It’s okay.

SUS:

It’s not JOE’s fault. It’s all me.

DET:

MICHELE, the only thing I know is what you’ve told me, so tell me what
happened.

SUS:

All that was true.

DET:

I, I know, honey, but tell me what happened at your parents’ house.

SUS:

(unintelligible / crying)

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DET:

Okay. And then what happened?

SUS:

My brother owes me a lot of money.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And he refused to pay any back. He knows we’ve been struggling. We’re,
we’re not making $20 an hour like he is, and I just wanted back the money he
took from me.

DET:

Okay. So what happened?

SUS:

And my parents weren’t even, they don’t even care about it. I love my family so
much, and it hurt when he took that money and didn’t give it back.

DET2:

What brother?

SUS:

SCOTT. It’s not JOE’s fault.

DET:

I’m not saying it is. MICHELE, what happened?

SUS:

It’s all my fault.

DET2:

Were you guys discussing the money?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Huh.

SUS:

JOE wasn’t even up there.

DET:

Well, tell, tell us from the beginning. You go up there, and who’s there?

SUS:

It’s my fault!

DET:

No one, let’s, we’re not gonna talk about fault or blame right now. We need to
find out what happened, okay.

SUS:

Me and JOE went up there.

DET:

All right.

SUS:

We were asking them for help with the lights.

DET:

With the what?

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SUS:

My light went out in the kitchen.

DET:

Okay. And who was up there when you arrived?

SUS:

My mom and my dad.

DET:

All right.

SUS:

And I told JOE to go back down to the house.

DET:

I’m sorry. You told JOE that, or they did?

SUS:

I did.

DET:

Okay. And then what happened?

SUS:

And I got in an argument with them ‘cause they said they’re not helping me get
my money back from..

DET:

From SCOTT, yes, okay.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And then what happened?

SUS:

They threatened to kick me out because they don’t, because they don’t believe
SCOTT’s a bad person.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And I have too much stuff around here that I gotta sell. There’s no way I’d get
out in time.

DET:

Of course.

SUS:

And I panicked.

DET:

And then what happened?

SUS:

I went into my truck, and I got my handgun.

DET:

Okay. And then what happened? It’s okay, MICHELE.

SUS:

Sorry.

DET:

I know you’re sorry.

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SUS:

I didn’t want to live out on the street, and I panicked. And as soon as I did that,
I regretted it.

DET:

I know you did.

SUS:

And that’s not me ‘cause I love them so much, but I was so mad.

DET:

I know.

SUS:

And then I tried to hide it. They were too heavy. And then I got in an argument
when SCOTT came over.

DET:

And then what happened?

SUS:

And said I just want my money, and I’ll go away. And it’s a lot of money.

DET:

And what did he say?

SUS:

He told me I don’t, he doesn’t have to listen to this shit, and he came after me.

DET:

And what did you do?

SUS:

He charged me. He was gonna hurt me.

DET:

Ah huh.

SUS:

I’m not lying about that.

DET:

I don’t blame you a bit.

SUS:

He was just mean.

DET:

I know.

SUS:

I love him, but ever since he married ERICA, he’s been, he hates me.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And then he has my car over at his house, and he won’t give it back. I keep
pleading with him give me my Firebird back, and he won’t give it to me. I gave
him money to fix it, and he just spent it all on himself, and then complained to
me that he had to use his own money to finish working on it, and it never ran.

DET:

So when he came at you, what happened?

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SUS:

I freaked out and shot him.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And he kept coming…shot him like four times. I didn’t want, I thought he would
just stop when I pointed the gun.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

I know you’re sorry, and.

SUS:

(unintelligible) and I just wanted my car back, and I wanted, I wanted the
40,000 back that he owed me.

DET:

$40,000, that is a lot of money.

SUS:

I wanted it back.

DET:

I can understand why you were upset.

SUS:

And they didn’t care.

DET2:

Was anybody else with him?

SUS:

His wife and kids. JOE was not part of it. It was just me.

DET:

Okay. Did you also.

SUS:

I’m sorry. We did drive all around.

DET:

No, no. Let’s go back.

SUS:

That was all true.

DET:

I understand. Did you also shoot SCOTT’s wife and kids?

SUS:

They were running to the phone, and I freaked out.

DET:

Okay, how many times did you shoot them……, MICHELE?

SUS:

(unintelligible/ crying) one to each kid.

DET:

Okay.

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SUS:

I didn’t want to do it.

DET:

MICHELE, look it. It’s okay, look.

DET2:

It’s better to talk about this ‘cause you’ve got a lot built up inside of you.

SUS:

I’m sorry. I just wanted my money back, and nobody cared; and I can’t afford to
take people to court.

DET:

I, I understand that.

SUS:

(unintelligible) money and I just thought I’d run. And then I was like, I can’t do
this. I have to come back.

DET:

You did the right thing. That shows how much you loved your family and how
big of a mistake this is.

SUS:

I loved them so much, and I felt so bad, and I couldn’t sleep or eat.

DET:

I know. Listen to me, where’s the gun right now?

SUS:

I threw it away.

DET:

Where?

SUS:

I don’t remember.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I threw it all away.

DET:

Okay. Honey, listen to me.

SUS:

Am I a bad person?

DET:

No; you’re not.

DET2:

No.

DET:

You said, you said.

SUS:

I love my family so much sorry.

DET:

You said that after your mom and dad, that you tried to cover it up. What does
that mean?

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SUS:

I drug ‘em in the backyard so when SCOTT came over, I could try to get my
money from him and just leave.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And as soon as I shot the gun, I felt so bad like what the hell have I done? I’m
a monster.

DET:

It’s okay.

SUS:

I turned into a monster. I told JOE to lie to cover up what I did ‘cause I told him
afterwards.

DET:

What did JOE, what did you tell JOE?

SUS:

I told him everything, and I’m so sorry.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And I told him that he had to not tell anybody.

DET:

Um, I wonder if we should go up in the RV and talk about this further. Think
so?

DET2:

That’s probably a good idea. Let’s take a little break.

DET:

Do you want to um.

SUS:

I thought I’d never get my money back.

DET:

I didn’t, MICHELE, I didn’t realize it was $40,000. That is enough to make you
do something that you normally wouldn’t do. Let me ask you this. Okay.

SUS:

I paid for his house and all of his cars ‘cause he told me that he was working
construction and that the work was unstable and he’d lose his house. I gave
him a down payment for it, everything. And then he went to my dad and got
75,000 out of him too. And then I told dad that my brother’s an awful person;
you shouldn’t do this. And he came after me saying that I needed to start
paying for my insurance, and I just went crazy.

DET:

Let’s call.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

Honey, after what happened to.

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SUS:

I don’t make as much as every body, I just wanted my money and go away.
And I know that’s the stupidest thing. It’s not even worth it. Now at this, none of
it matters to me now. I’m so goddamn dumb.

DET:

After what happened to your parents,[speaking in to Nextel phone: come to my
car, please] after what happened to your parents, how long was it before
SCOTT and ERICA showed up?

SUS:

I think it’s like an hour.

DET:

Okay. What were you doing within that hour?

SUS:

I was just cleaning up the blood and drug ‘em in the backyard.

DET:

Okay. Did you know SCOTT and ERICA were gonna come over?

SUS:

Yeah. I didn’t know when.

DET:

Okay. And your plan was just to confront him about it.

SUS:

All I wanted to do was talk about why they’re letting SCOTT hurt me and not
doing anything about it. That’s all I was gonna do. And I was gonna confront
SCOTT and say just pay me back. And I just got scared.

DET2:

MICHELE.

SUS:

I’m stupid.

DET2:

MICHELE, where was your mom when you first shot her, what room?

SUS:

Kitchen.

DET2:

The what?

SUS:

The kitchen.

DET2:

What about your dad?

SUS:

The dining room.

DET:

How did you move those bodies out there by yourself?

SUS:

The rug.

DET:

How come you covered your dad up?

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SUS:

Because the dog was freaking out.

DET:

Is ah, ERICA pregnant?

SUS:

I think she’s just overweight.

DET:

Okay.

DET2:

MICHELE, there was a couple of sets of footprints. Did, did JOE assist in at
least helping with the bodies, move ‘em?

DET:

And we’re not saying he hurt ‘em, but did he help you move ‘em?

SUS:

He came up and he helped me get rid of the rug.

DET2:

Where did the rugs go?

SUS:

I burnt them.

DET2:

You want?

SUS:

I burnt them.

DET2:

Where at?

SUS:

The fire pit in my yard. JOE didn’t do anything. It was just me. I’m a bad
person.

DET2:

You’re not a bad person.

SUS:

I just, I didn’t want to shoot anybody. I’m sorry. And I don’t want to insult
anybody.

[Det. Tompkins exits car to talk on radio.]
DET2:

We know you’re not a bad person.

SUS:

I’m in a lot of trouble now over some stupid money. It doesn’t even matter.

DET2:

Well, we’re just trying to figure this all out, okay, and then we can, we can
move on.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET2:

I know you’re sorry.

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SUS:

I’m so sorry.

DET2:

What room was SCOTT in when he was shot?

SUS:

Everybody was in the living room. It’s my fault. I have nothing, and they were
taking from me.

DET2:

That’s a lot of money, $40,000.

SUS:

I’m really good at saving ‘cause I’m like cheap. I don’t spend anything on
clothes or anything.

DET2:

What all did you burn in the fire pit?

SUS:

Towels and a rug. I’m sorry. I don’t want anything to happen to JOE. I
threatened him to help me.

DET2:

Well, we can understand why you would burn those things. Did you throw the
gun in there as well?

[Det. Tompkins re-enters car]
SUS:

No. We threw it away and dumped in a river.

DET2:

Why it’s real important is because we don’t want that gun to get into the hands
of some small child. A lot of times they find guns, and they end up being shot.

SUS:

I threw both the handguns in one river, and I don’t remember which one.

DET:

Do you think you could point it out to us if we were to take you out there?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay, um.

SUS:

It’s not JOE’s fault. I threatened him to help cover, like by not saying anything.

DET:

No. And that’s fine. JOE’s up there talking to the other, other detective.

SUS:

Yes. I’m sorry.

DET:

It’s okay.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

End of Tape 1, Side B

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MICHELE ANDERSON

Tape 2, Side A
DET:

1, ah, or of tape 2. Now MICHELE, we suggested that we drive up to this RV,
our command post here, but you don’t seem to want to do that. Is that correct?

SUS:

No; I will. I will. I don’t, I’m not arguing anything.

DET:

No. No. I, I don’t want to make you uncomfortable.

SUS:

I will cooperate (unintelligible)

DET:

But you said you have some problems with the neighbors.

SUS:

I don’t like the neighbors because they’re mean.

DET:

Okay. But if we were inside the RV, is that okay with you?

SUS:

Yeah. I don’t want them to see me.

DET:

Okay. Well, the time is 12:12 hours, and we’re gonna drive up there, and we’ll
continue this conversation up there. Okay.

SUS:

Okay.

DET:

All right.

DET:

Okay. The time is 12:15 hours. Ah, this is Detective TOMPKINS and PETERS
with ah, MICHELE ANDERSON. We’re back on tape. MICHELE, are you
aware this is being tape recorded?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. Now we moved to kind of a, a mobile ah, command station.

SUS:

Yes. Yes.

DET:

And you saw that it has the Sheriff’s writing on the side of the vehicle.

SUS:

Yes. Yes.

DET:

Okay. So because that’s the case, ah, and this is kind of like a little police
station, I need to read you these, these following rights, okay.

SUS:

Okay.

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DET:

So tell me if you understand these. You have the right to remain silent.

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

You have the right at this time to an attorney of your own choosing.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Anything you say or sign can be used as evidence against you in a court of
law.

SUS:

I know.

DET:

Do you understand that?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

You have the right to talk to an attorney before answering questions. Do you
understand that?

SUS:

Um hum.

DET:

Yes?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. Ah, you have the right to have an attorney present while you are being
questioned. Do you understand that?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. If you cannot afford an attorney, you can have one appointed to you
without cost to you if you desire. And you further understand you have the right
to exercise any of these rights at any time during our conversation. Is that
understood to you?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. And with those in mind, you’re willing to talk to us about it?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. When we moved up here, ah, I told you that we would like to kind of
delve more into um, your relationship between you and SCOTT and the money
that was owed. Can you talk a little bit more about that?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

Yeah. SCOTT is always somebody that had to have the best of everything.
And for a long time he was just working in, in construction, and he still was, but
different company. And he told me that the work was inconsistent and that he
could lose his apartment, lost his truck, lose his house as, as the timeline went
along ‘cause.

DET2:

How many years is this over?

SUS:

Since high school.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

When he, and his cars would break down, and I’d buy him new things, like new
engines and stuff. He’s got an engine in his garage that I bought, and I bought
one also for my Firebird, and he said that he’d put it in. And I gave him enough
money for the, the all the parts it needed, the carburetor, and even labor. He
pocketed everything, and he took an old carburetor and shoved that in there.
And, and I broke down all the time, and he didn’t care. He was so callous, and
I’m so stupid.

DET:

How, how did you get this money to be able to loan to him in the first place?

SUS:

I worked two jobs, and I don’t spend anything. I, I don’t buy clothes or any of it.

DET:

So is it just kind of out of respect for your family, your sister and her
relationship that you loaned him this money or?

SUS:

I just, he makes you think that he’s so wonderful, and I’m just so gullible. And I
just believed it because we got along so well when we were kids. And when he
met ERICA, he started going the other way, and I thought it was my fault, so I
kept spending more so he wouldn’t hate me.

DET2:

So you’re just kind of being a nice sister basically.

SUS:

And he kept taking advantage of that. And finally it became too much, and my
dad and my mom didn’t even care; and I don’t know why. And then I went, I
went to help my mom when her mom had hip surgery. So we drove all the way
down to Vegas. Well, she drove, and I just sat in the passenger’s seat, and
she was so mean to me, and I couldn’t believe it. And I told everybody in the
family, and nobody cared.

DET2:

How long ago was that?

SUS:

It was like last year or the year before.

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DET2:

So things just been kind of building up.

SUS:

Snowballing.

DET2:

Yeah.

SUS:

And just, and then my dad’s mom ELSIE died.

DET2:

Ah huh.

SUS:

And I helped him with that. We went down and dealt with his brother, ‘cause
they had to split property, and I was trying to be the mediator. And we really
bonded. And we came back, and he wouldn’t, still wouldn’t help me get money
back from my brother, and he took my brother’s side. I felt betrayed. And then
my mom started slandering me, ‘cause I worked at the post office for a while,
and she told all the customers I was making mistakes. I don’t know why she
did this. And she slandered me in front of the neighbor. I know she did
because she started letting her dogs out to come after us when we get the pa..
right when we’re taking the trash out. She, she’d tell anybody in town that I
was a bad person. My mom tried to kill me when I was in grade school, but I
thought she wasn’t gonna be a mean person again ‘cause I’m like forgiving.

DET:

Sure.

SUS:

She didn’t close the door all the way to the van when I was five, six, or seven,
and I fell out, and I was clinging on to, to the handle, and she kept driving. And
when I wasn’t falling off, she drove onto the rocks on the, on the shoulder and
sped up, and I still didn’t fall off. And I think if she could of reached me, she
would of pushed me out.

DET2:

How old.

SUS:

And I told my dad about this, and at the time he cared. He beat the crap out of
her because it’s abusive, broken home.

DET2:

How old are you now?

SUS:

I’m twenty-nine.

DET2:

Twenty-nine.

SUS:

And I should of just moved away, but the problem is, is they keep acting like
they’re sorry; and I fall for it every time.

DET2:

Did they give you a place to live?

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SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

They let you stay..

SUS:

But they conned me into going to a trailer park that was full of bad people in
Fall City, and I was stuck there.

DET2:

How long have you lived at this trailer up on the property?

SUS:

One year.

DET2:

One year, and how long has JOE lived there with you?

SUS:

One year.

DET2:

All right.

DET:

What time, what time did this shooting occur?

SUS:

I think around 4.

DET:

On Christmas Eve?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And SCOTT came around 5 or 6.

DET:

Okay. Now when you went up there that day, what was your purpose of going
up to visit your parents?

SUS:

Just wanted to say merry Christmas and was hoping we can, ‘cause
everybody was there, just somehow get a payment plan going.

DET:

I see.

SUS:

So I could use that to move out of their home.

DET:

And better yourself?

SUS:

And I, yeah, and I told ‘em, look, I’ll restore this thing so it’s not like you’re, you
know, encumbered by me being there. And I was putting the floor in. If you
guys look.

DET:

Um hum.

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SUS:

The floor is not finished.

DET:

All right.

SUS:

Because the people who used to live there, it was a total scam, and my
parents didn’t know about it, and I helped get ‘em out, and the guy destroyed
the place, so the place was horrible. We’re trying to piece it together and then
leave with it looking great. And I thought maybe I’d get some credibility back,
and they’d help me get my money back.

DET2:

When you said every.

SUS:

And they didn’t care.

DET2:

You said everyone was there.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Was everyone there?

SUS:

No. I mean.

DET:

They were coming that day.

SUS:

I mean, they were all gonna gather.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And I thought if I talk to them first and then when SCOTT comes in, then we
can talk all together.

DET2:

That makes sense.

SUS:

As a family.

DET:

Sure. When, when you went up.

SUS:

I was not premeditated. I freaked out.

DET:

No; I understand.

SUS:

And I went back down, and I got my firearm.

DET:

So you went.

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SUS:

And it jammed.

DET:

MICHELE, you went from your parents’ house back down to your house to get
the gun and then back up. You didn’t drive the truck up there?

SUS:

I kept driving the truck back and forth all day.

DET:

You did or did not?

SUS:

I did. I didn’t walk. I…

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

Sorry.

DET:

So, when, no, that’s okay, when you went to get the gun, was your truck
parked outside your parents’ house?

DET2:

Or did you have to go home, is what he’s asking, when you got upset.

SUS:

My truck was up at my parents’ house.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I drove it back down to my house and back up.

DET2:

Okay. Tell us when you went back to your house, where did you get the gun
from?

SUS:

My bedroom.

DET:

I see. What did JOE say when you did that?

SUS:

He didn’t see it. He was in the bathroom.

DET:

Did you tell him anything?

SUS:

No. I didn’t want him part of any.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I thought I could just pack up everything and just say, okay, I made a bad
mistake; let’s just get out of here.

DET2:

Okay. Remember he’s giving a truthful statement as well. Okay. So even
though you love him.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

I, it’s my fault.

DET2:

I know. Even though you love him dearly.

SUS:

It’s my fault.

DET:

I, I know, MICHELE, but just like she’s saying, what you don’t want here, is you
don’t want to get caught up in lies.

DET2:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay, so if your story doesn’t match JOE’s story, then people are gonna think
you’re lying about something.

DET2:

So just tell the truth from the beginning.

DET:

Okay. JOE is talking to the other detective, and he’s telling a truthful statement.

DET2:

Yeah. I mean, ‘cause everyone just wants, if JOE played a part, you know,
everything can be figured out, okay. Everything can be figured out.

SUS:

I pushed him into not telling anybody.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

It’s all my fault.

DET2:

Well, you don’t have.

SUS:

It’s not his fault. I don’t want him in trouble.

DET2:

I know.

SUS:

It’s my family.

DET2:

But what, but what, MICHELE, what we’re asking is just tell us the truth the
first time around because right now he’s telling the truth. And if he, if he shot
someone, he’s gonna tell the detective that, okay. So you don’t want to get
caught up in different stories, is what I’m saying. Okay. All right. So who had
the gun?

SUS:

I had it, but it jammed.

DET2:

Okay. And then what did he do?

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SUS:

He grabbed one that wasn’t jammed and helped.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And he un-jammed that one, and I finished. I shot everybody, and he just shot
my dad.

DET2:

Okay. So he just shot your dad.

SUS:

I’m sorry. Yeah.

DET2:

Okay. Now see, doesn’t that feel better telling the truth?

SUS:

It’s my fault. I don’t want anything bad to happen.

DET:

But listen.

SUS:

I should not have got him involved. I’m so stupid. I should of just, I should of
just left.

DET2:

Well sometimes, sometimes couples, you know, they care about each other
dearly, and they want to cover for each other.

SUS:

I’m not a bad person. I’m sorry.

DET2:

The, the truth originally eventually will come out once the scene’s looked at
and everything.

SUS:

I know.

DET2:

So it’s better to be honest now. Okay.

SUS:

I can’t lie. I’m..

DET2:

Where did, where did the gun jam at?

SUS:

I don’t understand.

DET2:

Where did the gun, you said it jammed, the gun. You said it jammed, right?
Where was that? Was that at your trailer or up at your mom’s?

SUS:

Mom and dad’s.

DET2:

Okay. And was JOE with you when this all went down?

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DET:

Okay. MICHELE, let’s start from the beginning. And keep in mind that JOE’s
talking to a detective too.

DET2:

Just be honest.

DET:

Tell us, tell us what happened.

SUS:

We went up there, and I got upset, and I shot at them, and the 9 millimeter
jammed, and he un-jammed it for me; then he shot my dad.

DET2:

Okay, so.

SUS:

And I shot everybody else.

DET2:

Who was shot first?

SUS:

My dad.

DET:

And where was he when he was shot?

SUS:

The living room and the dining room area. It’s all the same.

DET:

And, and JOE shot your dad.

SUS:

We both did because I shot him, and it hit him.

DET:

Oh, I see.

SUS:

But then it jammed on the second shot, and he shot him one more time.

DET2:

Okay. And that was with the 9 millimeter?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET2:

Were you.

SUS:

I know that two shots were with the 9, or I think one shot was with the 9 and
one with the other gun. I don’t remember. I’m not lying. I don’t know.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

What happened.

DET2:

Okay, so.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

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DET2:

You guy, you guys both go up there together to discuss things with your
parents. Is that correct?

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET2:

Is that correct?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And who was packing the guns? Tell the truth.

SUS:

Me.

DET:

MICHELE, that doesn’t make any sense that you’d have two guns with you.

DET2:

Tell, just tell the truth ‘cause he’s gonna tell the truth as well. It’s okay.

SUS:

I had a gun, and he had a gun. I’m sorry.

DET2:

Okay. Where did you keep your gun? Where was it?

SUS:

In, in the sweatshirt.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

In my sweatshirt.

DET2:

Okay. And, and what color sweatshirt?

SUS:

Dark blue.

DET2:

And where is that sweatshirt?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET2:

Where do you think it is?

SUS:

I think I burned it.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

If I didn’t, it’s in the trunk. I don’t remember.

DET2:

Okay.

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SUS:

I really did freak out.

DET2:

If you don’t remember something, that’s fine.

SUS:

It’s not that I’m lying,- I freak out.

DET2:

I, I can understand that.

SUS:

And I don’t want JOE to go to jail because I threatened him to help me.

DET2:

Okay. So where was JOE carrying his gun?

SUS:

Holster.

DET2:

And was it like a holster off to the side or under the armpit?

SUS:

Under armpit.

DET2:

Okay. And which gun did you have on you?

SUS:

Nine.

DET2:

And what did JOE have?

SUS:

The other one.

DET2:

Do you know what it was?

SUS:

It’s some kind of a revolver.

DET2:

And you’d earlier told us one gun was in your name; one was in his name.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Which gun did you have, the one in?

SUS:

In my name.

DET2:

Okay. And which one did he have?

SUS:

The one in his.

DET2:

What was the purpose of carrying guns up there?

SUS:

‘Cause I’m tired of everybody stepping on me.

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DET2:

So were.

SUS:

‘Cause I was afraid.

DET2:

Were you thinking about shooting ‘em prior to going up there?

SUS:

I was, I thought.

DET2:

Tell the truth.

SUS:

That SCOTT would attack me, and it was for him.

DET2:

Okay. SCOTT’s not there yet though, right.

SUS:

I know.

DET2:

Okay. So had you had thoughts about maybe..

SUS:

No, just SCOTT.

DET2:

Okay.

DET:

What did you tell JOE before you went up there, the, the, the need for the
gun?

SUS:

I said that I don’t want anybody attacking us, because my brother is really
violent, and my dad’s really violent.

DET2:

And the guns were loaded, both were loaded.

SUS:

I was hoping I could just scare people. I didn’t want to use ‘em, but they came
after me; well, SCOTT did.

DET2:

Okay. Were the guns both loaded?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And who loaded them?

SUS:

I did.

DET:

Was that on Christmas Eve or before?

SUS:

Christmas Eve.

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DET2:

And did JOE load his gun? Tell the truth. I can tell when you’re thinking about
things. You gotta speak out loud for the tape.

SUS:

JOE loaded his own gun. I’m sorry.

DET2:

It’s all right. So then did, who drove the truck up there?

SUS:

I always drive. He doesn’t have a license.

DET2:

Well, you’re on the private property, so who drove from your place to your
mom’s?

SUS:

I always drive.

DET2:

Okay. You drove. And where was JOE?

SUS:

He’s in the, he’s in the truck with me. He’s just with me the whole time. I’m
sorry.

DET2:

Okay, so.

SUS:

I don’t want him to go to jail. This is my problem. He didn’t want to do any of
this. I made him.

DET2:

Okay. Well, let’s.

SUS:

That’s the truth.

DET2:

Let Detective TOMPKINS and I figure that one, okay.

SUS:

I’m sorry. That’s the truth. He didn’t want to do this.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I made him. That’s why I’m trying to tell you guys this, (unintelligible) go to jail.

DET2:

Did you, did you know you were.

SUS:

Because I made him do it.

DET2:

MICHELE, MICHELE, did you know you were gonna shoot your family?

SUS:

Was going to shoot my brother.

DET2:

Okay.

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SUS:

I didn’t want to hurt anyone, but I freaked out. I didn’t want to go to jail. And
then after I shot people, I realized I deserved it, so I came back because I can’t
live with myself. It’s wrong.

DET2:

Tell us what happened once you entered the house. Where were you and
JOE?

SUS:

I was in the kitchen, and I told everybody to sit on the couch ‘cause I got in an
argument with SCOTT.

DET:

Now, now when you first get there, is everybody there?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Just your parents.

SUS:

My parents were there.

DET:

Okay. By the time SCOTT got there, your parents were dead.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Let’s, let’s walk through this from the beginning. You and JOE arrive,
and it’s just your parents at the house. Is that correct?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What happens?

SUS:

We got in an argument.

DET2:

What was the argument over?

SUS:

I just wanted SCOTT to give me my money back. And they, they had this
building, you know, to be like, hey, what are you doing? And I don’t do it, and
they got angry.

DET2:

Okay. And where were they when they got angry, what room?

SUS:

Living room, kitchen.

DET:

And what did you do?

SUS:

I shot at them both, and the 9 jammed, and he, JOE helped me only because.

DET2:

No, just tell the facts.

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SUS:

It jammed.

DET2:

Okay, and then what did JOE do?

SUS:

He shot my dad.

DET2:

Did he shoot at your mom as well?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I shot at my dad, and he, I shot my dad, and JOE shot him.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

It took a couple shots.

DET2:

And then who shot your mom, both of you or just you?

SUS:

I don’t remember if it was both of us or JOE.

DET:

Both of us or what?

SUS:

I don’t remember if it was both of us or JOE.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I don’t remember.

DET:

Where did they fall?

SUS:

Kitchen and dining room.

DET:

And then what did you do?

SUS:

We tried to clean it up.

DET:

How did you do that?

SUS:

Towels and rugs.

DET:

What did you do with the bodies?

SUS:

We drug ‘em out in the back.

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DET:

And what was the purpose for that?

SUS:

We tried to hide ‘em in the shed so when SCOTT came home, I could just try
to confront him.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I didn’t want to shoot my parents (unintelligible).

DET2:

We understand that. Now who was in the kitchen?

SUS:

When?

DET2:

Which parent was in the kitchen?

SUS:

My mom

DET2:

How many times do you believe she got shot?

SUS:

I don’t remember. I don’t remember. It’s one to two.

DET2:

One to two, okay. And how many times was dad shot?

SUS:

I think three, and I don’t know for sure. I don’t remember.

DET:

And that’s okay. We’re just.

DET2:

We’re just getting an idea.

DET:

Your, your best memory.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET2:

Now who went out to the backyard first? Who, which body?

SUS:

My mom.

DET:

How, how did that happen?

SUS:

I drug her out.

DET2:

Who drug her out?

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SUS:

I did. I drug my mom out, but JOE helped me drag my dad out.

DET2:

Okay. And how was mom dressed?

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

Yeah; it’s okay.

DET2:

How was mom dressed?

SUS:

Jeans and I don’t remember what kind of top.

DET2:

And where did you put your mom?

SUS:

The shed.

DET2:

Now is this a locking shed, or is it unlocked? Explain that to us. We’ve never
been there.

SUS:

It has a padlock, but it’s not locked.

DET:

Was the plan to put both your parents in the shed?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

How come that didn’t work?

SUS:

Dad’s too heavy.

DET:

So what did you end up doing with him?

SUS:

Putting a rug over him.

DET:

What’s the purpose for that?

SUS:

I didn’t want SCOTT to see him and go straight to the phone.

DET:

We noticed your dad was wearing tee shirts and underwear. Why is that?

SUS:

He had jeans on.

DET:

Oh, did he. The officers up at the scene didn’t, didn’t see that. They might have
been mistaken.

SUS:

He had tee shirt, suspenders, and jeans and underwear.

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DET:

Okay.

SUS:

When we were dragging him, his pants started to fall off a little bit, but they
were still there.

DET2:

They might be. We, we just haven’t been up there yet. And both of you guys
drug your dad.

SUS:

Yeah; he’s too heavy, yeah.

DET2:

And did you go out the front door, or did you drag him out the back door?

SUS:

Back door, back door.

DET2:

Okay. Where did you see your parents bleeding from? Start with your mom.
Where did you see her?

SUS:

The head for both of ‘em.

DET2:

And did you try to clean up the scene before SCOTT got there?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

What did you do? Tell us about that.

SUS:

I used towels and rugs to wipe everything and.

DET2:

Where did the rug come that covered up your dad?

SUS:

It was outside already.

DET2:

Okay.

DET:

So what did, I’m sorry, did, you told me previously that it took about an hour
before SCOTT got there. That’s still the truth?

SUS:

I don’t, I’m guessing that it was an hour.

DET:

Okay, and.

SUS:

I don’t know. It felt like it.

DET:

And then during that hour or so you guys are cleaning up the scene.

SUS:

Yeah.

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DET:

All right. What, what are you saying to JOE? What’s JOE saying to you during
this time?

SUS:

We need to just go confess ‘cause this is so wrong.

DET:

And you guys aren’t married; are you?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Okay. And who’s saying, just go confess?

SUS:

Both of us.

DET:

And why didn’t you?

SUS:

SCOTT showed up.

DET2:

Let me ask one quick question. Did you ever, when you were cleaning up, did
you ever make a trip back down to your place and then back up?

SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

Or did you always wait?

SUS:

Well, not, when we made a trip back down, it was after SCOTT got there. We
didn’t have enough time.

DET2:

Okay. So when you’re cleaning up, then SCOTT arrives. Is that correct?

SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

Let’s talk about that. Why don’t you go ahead and tell us about that. Who’s
driving, what kind of car? Who’s with SCOTT?

SUS:

SCOTT showed up in his white truck that him and ERICA own, and they sat
down at the couch, and I, I confronted ‘em about the money and my car; and
he came after me. And that’s not lying, he did. He jumped up from the couch
and ran after me.

DET:

And when you’re confronting him, did you have the guns out?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Aren’t they asking, where’s your parents?

SUS:

I said that they were in the bathroom.

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DET:

So this must have been a short confrontation, right.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And what did you say to him again?

SUS:

I said, I want my money back, and I want my car back. You know that I don’t
make near as much you do, and you conned me out of that money, and I just
want back what was owed to me, and I’ll, I’ll go away. I don’t know why
everybody hated me so much. I was trying to buy everybody’s love.

DET:

And so SCOTT comes at you, and what happens?

SUS:

Yeah, and I shot him, and he kept coming, and I freaked out.

DET:

I understand, MICHELE; but when you say he comes at you, where did you
have your gun?

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET:

All right, but.

SUS:

I had it below my shoulder. I thought they wouldn’t see it.

DET:

I know. I understand, but before that, where did, did you have it in a shoulder
holster, under your pants?

SUS:

It’s in my sweatshirt that I was holding in front of me the whole time.

DET2:

So.

DET:

So you were holding it like over a sweater draped over your hand.

SUS:

Yeah. I was wearing a tee shirt, and I had a sweatshirt around my arm and
the…

DET2:

So it’s one of those that have where you put your hands in a sweatshirt?

SUS:

No. No.

DET:

It’s off, correct?

SUS:

I’m not wearing it.

DET:

Yeah.

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DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

It’s wadded up in my arm with the gun tucked in it.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And I was standing behind the Lazy Boy.

DET2:

Okay.

DET:

Do you think SCOTT maybe thought that you had a weapon or a gun?

SUS:

No; he had no idea. He just came after me.

DET:

What was.

SUS:

He says, I don’t have to put up with this shit. This is over. And he came right at
me.

DET2:

(unintelligible)

SUS:

And I’m not lying about that.

DET:

I, we’re not saying you are.

DET2:

Where was JOE?

SUS:

He was standing on my left, and I, I was just supposed to shoot everybody. He
was just there to, just incase the gun jammed.

DET:

Had you guys talked about that?

SUS:

I told him I wanted to confront my family and was afraid they’d attack me
because they’re abusive, and I didn’t want, I wanted him to protect me, and I
guilt tripped him into it.

DET:

This is after your parents were dead or before?

SUS:

Before and after, but.

DET2:

Did anybody try to call 911?

SUS:

ERICA.

DET2:

Why did she do that? What alerted her to call 911?

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SUS:

Because SCOTT had bullet wounds in him.

DET2:

Oh.

DET:

What, what was the timeframe between shooting SCOTT and shooting the
other three people?

SUS:

I don’t know. It all happened at once.

DET:

But was it like a couple of seconds or a couple minutes or what? She
obviously had time to call.

SUS:

She lunged over the couch even though she, she had been shot twice. I don’t
know how she did that.

DET:

And she lunged over the couch to call?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

So she actually called 911, and she had been shot.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

So who shot SCOTT four times?

SUS:

I shot SCOTT and ERICA.

DET2:

And what about JOE?

SUS:

He shot the kids.

DET2:

His, obviously you’re pretty smart. You know that we look at, we match bullets
and all that, right, so.

SUS:

I just wanted (unintelligible) help..

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

(unintelligible).. I don’t deserve any; I’m a bad person.

DET2:

So where was SCOTT when you shot him?

SUS:

The stupid money, I shouldn’t have done any of this. I’m just trying to be
honest.

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DET2:

Okay. MICHELE, where was SCOTT when you shot him, what room?

SUS:

Everybody was in, all that group of people were in the living room.

DET2:

But was he standing up? Is he in the middle?

SUS:

He came after me, and I was in-between the wall where the window was.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And he was trying to rip the gun out of my hand while I was shooting him.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And I got him in the throat, and that’s what got him off me. And he fell like that.

DET2:

Okay.

DET:

MICHELE, keep talking to SUE. I’m gonna step out for a minute, okay.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

No; you’re doing just fine.

DET2:

That’s okay. You’re doing fine.

DET:

( you might have to flip that [the tape] soon)

DET2:

Okay. So you shot him in the throat and where else?

SUS:

And his torso.

DET2:

Okay. And who fired the other shots in, into SCOTT?

SUS:

I shot four shots into SCOTT with the revolver and two into ERICA. I ran out of
bullets. That’s why he shot the kids, because I ran out of bullets. He got it
unstuck by then. If it was unstuck before, he wouldn’t of shot anything. I would
of used the 9 on everybody if it had never jammed, and he would never had to
fire anything, because I didn’t want him to do any of it. It all backfired when,
when the thing jammed on the second shot. And he finally got it fixed, but it
was that time, it was that split second when we’re trying, when I ran out of
bullets, and he’s trying to un-jam the gun that she called the cops.

DET2:

Do you know what she said?

SUS:

It was a hang up.

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DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And the cops were dispatched, but the gate was closed, so they didn’t come
up.

DET2:

Were you, how do you know they were dispatched?

SUS:

Because I saw them on the road.

DET2:

You saw them on which road?

SUS:

The paved one.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

That leads up to the gravel, because I just fled because I was freaking out, and
then I, I came back, and I waited for them to come back, and they didn’t and.

DET2:

Did you ever call 911 yourself?

SUS:

I was scared. And then we left again, and then I felt bad again.

DET2:

Okay. Let’s back up a little bit.

SUS:

And I came back to just confess.

DET2:

Okay. Let’s talk about why did the kids get shot? Why did JOE shoot the kids?
How old are they?

SUS:

I just, I didn’t want anybody to see it.

DET2:

How old are the kids?

SUS:

I’m a bad person.

DET2:

Well, I, I want to know the ages of those kids that were shot.

SUS:

Three and six.

DET2:

Three and six, what’s the three year old’s name?

SUS:

NATHAN.

DET2:

And what’s the six year old’s name?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

OLIVIA.

DET2:

OLIVIA.

SUS:

Sorry.

DET2:

Who told JOE to shoot the kids?

SUS:

I did.

DET2:

Are you sure? You said, “JOE, shoot the kids”? That doesn’t make any sense.

SUS:

I said, we have to kill everybody, ‘cause I was afraid.

DET2:

And where did.

SUS:

They see this, and then they live like this the rest of their lives. They’re scarred
forever.

DET2:

Where were the kids shot?

SUS:

In the head.

DET2:

With what, what, what, which gun?

SUS:

Nine.

DET2:

And that’s the gun now that JOE had. Is that correct?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Why does JOE now have the 9?

SUS:

What happened was I started out with the 9 with my parents. It jammed; so he
finished them off with the revolver. So he put more wea.. bullets in the revolver,
and I shot four of those revolver shots into my brother and two into ERICA. I
ran out of bullets. He got the 9 un-jammed and finished off ERICA and the
kids.

DET:

What were the kids doing before they were shot?

SUS:

They were clinging to their mom screaming. Sorry.

DET:

The one kid’s pretty young. I mean, do you think he…

SUS:

I just thought if they saw their parents dead, that they’d be scarred for life.

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DET:

Were you worried they would be able to identify you?

SUS:

I didn’t want ‘em to be scarred for life. I didn’t care about that.

DET2:

Well, obviously you guys were cleaning up the scene, right.

SUS:

Well, so that SCOTT wouldn’t.

DET2:

So you, you, at one point you didn’t want to get caught. Is that correct?

SUS:

No. I cleaned up the scene so that SCOTT wouldn’t see it.

DET2:

But when did you do all the burning?

SUS:

We didn’t, we didn’t.

DET2:

When did you do the burning of evidence?

SUS:

That was after.

DET2:

So at one point you didn’t want to get.

SUS:

Yeah; we went back and forth about it.

DET2:

Okay. But at, you did not want to get caught at one point. Is that correct?

SUS:

Maybe a little bit.

DET2:

Okay. JOE too?

SUS:

I don’t know. I guess so.

End of Tape 2, Side A
Tape 2, Side B
DET:

This is ah, Tape 2, Side 2. Time is 12:46.

DET2:

So after everyone was shot.

SUS:

I should of just called the police right away.

DET2:

Okay. But after everyone is shot, is anything changed in the living room?

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Suspect Statement
MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

No. We ran.

DET2:

You ran or you drove?

SUS:

We ran out the door and got, and jumped in the truck.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

We drove down to the house, and I.

DET2:

Tell me exactly what you did once you got to the house.

SUS:

I grabbed my cell phone and my backpack that has my wallet in it, and we
went and headed for Monroe.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And then I said, this is wrong, and we turned back.

DET2:

Had you done any burning of evidence yet?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

We just ran, we just panicked. And I said, no; we gotta come back.

DET2:

You missed a part. She saw the police out on the paved road.

DET:

For the call from ERICA. Did you guys lock the gate?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

After, after the shooting.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

To keep the police out.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

How many locks did you lock?

SUS:

There, there’s only one lock. The other ones on there, we don’t have, they just
sit on there.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET2:

Okay. Did you stop anywhere between here and Monroe?

SUS:

Yeah, Gold Bar.

DET2:

Okay, and what did you do there?

SUS:

Got a map.

DET2:

Bought a map or got a map?

SUS:

I bought a map.

DET2:

With what money, debit, cash?

SUS:

I think it was a credit card.

DET2:

What store?

SUS:

It was a gas station.

DET2:

Anything else, did you purchase anything else?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

Okay. What did you do next now that you had the map?

SUS:

We were gonna go to Canada.

DET:

Why?

SUS:

Just to run, and then we changed our mind and came back. And then we
freaked out again and burnt the towels. And then we came back again.

DET2:

Okay. Slow down and tell me about burning the, what did you burn, and how
did you get the towels from there to the burn pile?

SUS:

We put ‘em in plastic garbage bags and loaded in the back of the truck and
brought ‘em down to the burn pile in my yard and burnt them.

DET2:

So how many towels?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET2:

Roughly.

SUS:

I don’t know.

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DET2:

Twenty, thirty, ten, two?

SUS:

At least ten.

DET2:

Were they bloody?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Did you wear gloves?

SUS:

I don’t remember, uh uh.

DET2:

What else did you burn?

SUS:

Two rugs.

DET2:

And where were the rugs from?

SUS:

The house, their house.

DET2:

What colors?

SUS:

Tan.

DET2:

And where did those rugs, were they inside or outside?

SUS:

Inside. They had blood on ‘em

DET2:

What rooms did they come from?

SUS:

The living room and the kitchen.

DET:

Of your parents’ house?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And what was the purpose of burning those?

SUS:

They had blood on ‘em.

DET:

But were they at your house or?

SUS:

They were at my parents’ house.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Okay. But there’s, there’s the bodies are there. Why does it matter if the bloody
towels and stuff are there?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET:

No; you know; why?

SUS:

‘Cause we touched them.

DET:

So were you worrying about what?

SUS:

We were back and forth in wanting to confess and wanting to run.

DET2:

Right. Were you worried about fingerprints?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

What else?

SUS:

I didn’t want to get caught, and then I wanted to and you know, back and forth
and.

DET2:

Where did you get the plastic bags to load up all this stuff?

SUS:

Their house, my parents’ house.

DET2:

And what color were the bags?

SUS:

White.

DET2:

Like trash bags?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And what room did you get those out of?

SUS:

The pantry.

DET2:

And how many trips did you make back and forth?

SUS:

I don’t remember. That’s the truth.

DET2:

Okay. And what else did you burn? We got rugs. We got towels. What about
clothes?

SUS:

No.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET2:

Shoes?

DET:

Where’s the clothes that JOE was wearing?

SUS:

Slippers, huh.

DET:

Finish with the slippers part.

SUS:

My dad was wearing slippers. We burnt those too. I just, I don’t know why. I
just threw ‘em in.

DET:

Where are the clothes that JOE was wearing that day?

SUS:

We washed our clothes.

DET:

Okay. Where are they?

SUS:

I don’t remember what outfit he was wearing. He washed them, and they were
at our house.

DET:

In the trailer.

SUS:

Yeah. And then we dried them, and I don’t remember if he’s wearing them.

DET:

Do you have a washer and dryer at your house?

SUS:

Yeah. They didn’t pay me back for that either.

DET2:

Okay. Well, let’s, let’s talk about this first. What shoes were you wearing?

SUS:

I was wearing this outfit but a different shirt. I washed that, and then I put this,
this, everything else back on and then put a new shirt on.

DET2:

Did you get blood on yourself?

SUS:

My arms and my hands and my legs.

DET2:

Got any injuries?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What injuries do you have?

SUS:

I got all these cuts in, in this.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET2:

From what?

SUS:

When I was struggling with my brother.

DET2:

When you were fighting over the gun. You have to answer out loud.

SUS:

Yeah. He was fighting me and trying to rip the gun out of my hands while I was
shooting.

DET2:

Okay. So what else went in the burn pile? Um, the dad was missing pants.

SUS:

No. They slipped over.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

They were still there.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I didn’t take those on.. , not that.

DET2:

Okay.

DET:

They, they might have, might have made a mistake. They just thought
(unintelligible)

SUS:

They’re on him. They just slipped down all the way.

DET2:

Yeah. They probably fell down.

SUS:

They’re there.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

Unless the dog drug it off. I, I swear to God we didn’t take those off. I’m not a
perv-o.

DET2:

We believe you. We believe you.

DET:

What happened to the shoes that JOE was wearing?

SUS:

I think he’s still wearing ‘em. I think he just washed them.

DET:

Did he, you saw him wash his shoes.

SUS:

We wiped them down with, with ah, sanitary wipes.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Okay. But those are still, are these the shoes that you wore?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Okay. And he, as far as you know, is wearing the shoes that he wore.

SUS:

I think so, but I don’t know. (unintelligible)

DET:

Okay.

DET2:

Where did you get the sanitary wipes?

SUS:

I just had ‘em at my own home.

DET2:

Okay. So they’re at your house.

SUS:

Yeah; and my mom and dad have some too, so I don’t remember whose
house they were., we got them from.

DET:

What, what did his shoes look like?

SUS:

Boots, steel-toe.

DET:

Steel-toed boots. What happened to the casings from the 9 millimeter?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET:

Did you pick ‘em up?

SUS:

I didn’t, so he must have.

DET2:

Did you talk about it?

SUS:

No. I didn’t, I didn’t even think of it.

DET:

So as far as you know, they could be at the house still.

SUS:

I don’t know if they’re there or if he took ‘em. I didn’t even, I didn’t even talk to
him about it. We just dumped the firearms and whatever bullets we didn’t use.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

You know.

DET2:

Where did you originally load the weapons?

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

In my truck.

DET2:

In your truck.

SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

Where was the ammunition? Was it in boxes or bags or what?

SUS:

It was in boxes.

DET2:

And where are the ammo boxes?

SUS:

We threw ‘em away.

DET:

Where?

SUS:

I don’t remember where, but it was off the side of the highway.

DET:

Could you take us back there?

SUS:

I don’t remember where we dumped them, but I can tell you what highway. It
was I 5.

DET2:

Well, let’s talk about what evidence was dumped. What did you get rid of,
‘cause you said you could take us back to the guns. Is the ammo in a different
spot?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I don’t remember where that is, and that’s all we dumped.

DET2:

Okay. Well, tell me where, where’s the 9 millimeter?

SUS:

It’s in the river.

DET2:

And who threw the gun in the river?

SUS:

JOE.

DET2:

Like a long ways out or just at the shore?

SUS:

There’s a bridge, and we dropped it down in the middle of the river.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Both of ‘em?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And you could take us to this bridge?

SUS:

Yeah. If I see it, I could recognize it.

DET:

No. The thing is you don't want some kids finding it, then getting it working.

SUS:

I’m just trying to be honest.

DET:

We appreciate that.

SUS:

I know nobody’s gonna find it at the bottom of a river. I’m just telling you what
happened.

DET2:

Well, things float; things float. You’d be surprised what washes up on land.

DET:

And in the summertime where kids goofing around.

DET2:

Yeah.

DET:

And the river’s low.

DET2:

It’s pretty serious. Is that the truth, or is it somewhere else?

SUS:

No. It’s in a river; and if I saw it, I could point it out.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I don’t know what the river is called.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

It starts with a S, and it’s up north past Monroe.

DET2:

Up by Monroe?

SUS:

Past Monroe.

DET2:

It’s like the Skykomish or the Snohomish?

SUS:

It’s one of those.

DET2:

Okay.

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SUS:

I don’t remember what; it started with an S. It’s an Indian name. And both of
the guns are wrapped in a shirt and thrown in. The highway went right over,
and we just dropped ‘em in the middle.

DET2:

And were both guns dropped at the same time?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Or a different time?

SUS:

They’re wrapped in a shirt.

DET2:

One shirt or two shirts?

SUS:

They’re wrapped in like a shirt jacket thing.

DET2:

What color?

SUS:

It’s like a purplish gray.

DET2:

And whose, whose jacket is that?

SUS:

It’s mine.

DET2:

And who wrapped ‘em up?

SUS:

We both did.

DET2:

Together?

SUS:

Well.

DET2:

How’s that work?

SUS:

Well, I set it out, and he put them in, and he tied ‘em.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

That’s both.

DET2:

Okay. I just, sometimes it’s hard for me to understand.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET2:

Like who’s driving when you’re going out there?

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SUS:

I, I drive everywhere.

DET2:

Okay. So you were driving.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And did you park along the road and get out or?

SUS:

Yeah, the, the shoulder.

DET2:

And who walked, both of you or one of you?

SUS:

No. He, he, he dumped ‘em.

DET2:

Was it light out or dark?

SUS:

It was nighttime. I should of just, I should of just called, and I shouldn’t of done
any of this.

DET2:

So tell me about any other evidence that was gotten rid of.

SUS:

Just the bullets.

DET2:

Okay. Tell me about the bullets.

SUS:

They were dumped out of the boxed and just (unintelligible) some ditch off of
the highway, and then the boxes were dumped right next to ‘em; and I don’t
remember where.

DET2:

(unintelligible)

SUS:

It was off of I 5 southbound.

DET2:

Well, was it a rest stop?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

Or was it just a bathroom stop or?

SUS:

No, just in the middle of nothing.

DET:

Did you even stop to do it?

SUS:

Yeah. We pulled over. I don’t remember where.

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DET2:

Okay, anything else evidence-wise that?

SUS:

No. That was it. None of this was worth it.

DET2:

I’ll agree with you on that.

SUS:

None of it was worth it. Nothing means anything.

DET2:

Yeah, but what we’re faced with is we have six bodies up there at your parents’
house, and two are small children.

DET:

You, you told me earlier that you had ah, graduated school, is that correct,
high school? Where did you graduate?

SUS:

Cedar Crest High School in the valley here.

DET:

Okay. And you went to a couple courses through community college.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And what have you done for employment?

SUS:

I worked at security guard jobs and a face painting job.

DET2:

Face painting?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Okay.

DET:

Have you ever done anything like this before?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Would you tell me if you did?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Have you ever seen a counselor for anything?

SUS:

I should have.

DET:

Okay, but have you?

SUS:

I have depression problems.

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DET:

But have you?

SUS:

No.

DET:

How do you know you have depression problems?

SUS:

Because a doctor told me I did.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I almost lost my hearing in ’98 or ’99 because of an ear infection, and they
gave me antidepressants to cope and help the ears heal faster. And then a
doctor said that I should get some counseling, and I didn’t.

DET:

What doctor was that?

SUS:

Trying to remember his name. I don’t remember his name, but he, he worked
in Issaquah.

DET:

Okay. Has anybody ever told you.

SUS:

My family said that I’m depressed all the time and that, but they went
overboard with it. They said that everything I feel is not valid.

DET:

Has a doctor ever diagnosed you as being paranoid or schizophrenic?

SUS:

No. No.

DET:

Or bipolar?

SUS:

No. I took tests to make sure that I wasn’t any of those. I just have depression.

DET:

Okay. Now what about JOE?

SUS:

And I have anxiety.

DET:

What about JOE, does he have any medical?

SUS:

JOE has depression and anxiety.

DET:

Okay. Has he ever been diagnosed by it, with it by a doctor?

SUS:

No. No.

DET:

That’s just the way he feels.

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SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

What about prescriptions? Do you take anything?

SUS:

I don’t have insurance.

DET2:

Okay. Were you on any medications?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

Alcohol?

SUS:

No. I don’t drink.

DET2:

Drugs?

SUS:

I don’t do drugs.

DET:

What about JOE?

SUS:

He doesn’t do anything either.

DET2:

No alcohol?

DET:

You’re sure?

SUS:

I’m positive. We don’t do that stuff because we don’t want to aggregate the
depression. We don’t take depressants.

DET:

Have you ever um, heard voices or thought that people were commanding you
to do things?

SUS:

No. No.

DET:

Has JOE ever relayed any of that to you?

SUS:

No.

DET:

That he experiences that?

SUS:

No. We just both came from abusive families.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

Dad used to put holes in the walls with our heads, and I’m not making that up.

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DET:

I’m not saying you are.

SUS:

He was really abusive. And one time my, my dog was trying to get a mole and
dug under the house, and he beat it for 45 minutes straight right in front of me,
and I was five. He used to skin animals in front of us and make fun of ‘em.

DET:

Was he a hunter?

SUS:

No. My dad was a sadist.

DET:

How do you know that?

SUS:

Because he, he always beat up my mom, and he beat us up, and he beat up
my sister. He would smash her head into the toilet.

DET2:

Was that when you were younger, or is that something recent?

SUS:

When I was five.

DET2:

Five.

SUS:

And he’d kill animals, and he’d torture them.

DET:

Now that was your experience. Do you think your ah, sister and brother have
the same viewpoint of your parents?

SUS:

Well, my brother turned into my dad in my opinion.

DET2:

Where did your brother live?

SUS:

He lives in Black Diamond.

DET2:

Anybody else at the family home or any grandparents or anybody expecting
them?

SUS:

What?

DET2:

Do they have any ah, other family that’s looking for them?

SUS:

PAM and TONY live in Snohomish, and they celebrate Christmas with them.

DET2:

And who.

SUS:

They’re the ones that are missing them.

DET2:

PAM.

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SUS:

This was stupid.

DET2:

PAM and TONY are missing?

SUS:

No. No. They’re missing SCOTT and ERICA.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I don’t know. PAM and TONY are fine.

DET2:

Who are they though, what relation?

SUS:

ERICA’s parents.

DET2:

Okay. And they live.

SUS:

Snohomish.

DET2:

And do you know their last names?

SUS:

MANTLE, I think.

DET2:

MANTLE.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

M-A-N-T-E-L?

SUS:

Yeah, T-L-E.

DET2:

M-A-N-T-L-E, do you know their.

SUS:

SCOTT used to brag about moving up through the company by undercutting
people, and I didn’t like him for it. He got ran out of working for TONY because
of doing that.

DET2:

What’s TONY do for a living?

SUS:

He works very high up in a construction company. I don’t know if he’s like a
CEO or I don’t, I don’t know what they call people, but he’s really high up. And
SCOTT left and worked for a, a cement company, and he undercut a lot of
people moving up.

DET:

So you said that while you guys were um, kind of on the run here, you, part of
you wanted to come back and confess. Part of you wanted to.

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MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

We kept making trips back and forth.

DET:

Okay. Listen to my question. You want, part of you wanted to confess, part of
you wanted to head to Canada or whatever, okay; what did you guys talk
about as far as what your alibi was gonna be during the point when you
wanted to run?

SUS:

We said we, we just wanted to go to Canada and just not come back.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

Then we thought, well, maybe we’ll just get married in Vegas and then come
back and confess; just let it all, ‘cause I was scared.

DET:

Okay. But when you came and you and I met in the driveway.

SUS:

I was talking about that.

DET:

Just, listen to my question. When you and I met in the driveway, you told me
you guys were gonna run off to Vegas to get married, correct.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

So was that the plan?

SUS:

We were gonna do that no matter what. We didn’t, I didn’t want to shoot
anybody. I just wanted to aim my gun at everybody and they, I just freaked out.

DET:

I know, but did you guys talk about, as you’re walking down the driveway, that
was the story you were gonna tell the police, that you were going to Vegas?

SUS:

No. We wanted to go to Vegas and get married anyway.

DET:

Okay. What do you suppose JOE is saying to the police right now?

SUS:

That we wanted to get married.

DET:

Okay. So is that the story you guys agreed on?

SUS:

Yeah, but we wanted to get married anyway.

DET:

All right, um.

SUS:

We both wanted to do that, and we were both gonna be honest about that.

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DET2:

Why, if you were just gonna go up there and threaten ‘em and scare ‘em, why
did you each have a gun?

SUS:

They were going to attacked me, and I thought if I fired my gun, it would jam or
something.

DET2:

Did you have thoughts of killing them though or one of them?

SUS:

That week.

DET2:

Okay, how far back in the week?

SUS:

It was just…

DET2:

A couple days prior or a month prior? How long have you been thinking about
killing SCOTT or your family?

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET2:

Give me a guess.

DET:

More, more than a week?

SUS:

Two weeks.

DET2:

Two weeks. Okay. And is that why you went up there with?

SUS:

They kept talking about kicking me out. They kept talking about…

DET2:

Are they mad because you’re not paying the rent or what? What’s the deal?

SUS:

I’m not paying anything because we’re trying to get on our feet and then
reimburse them.

DET2:

But is that why they’re mad? Are they mad at you guys, kicking you out,
because you’re not paying? What makes them angry at you?

SUS:

They’re angry that I want my money back from SCOTT, ‘cause I kept telling
him.

DET2:

Okay. But that’s not a reason why they’d be kicking you out. Why are they
kicking you out of the trailer?

SUS:

I told him, we had an agreement that I would live for a year, a little over a year,
and then I’d reimburse them; and he just didn’t want to stick with it.

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DET2:

Do you owe your mom and dad money?

SUS:

They want me to start paying rent.

DET2:

Okay. And you haven’t been paying rent. Is that why they’re upset with you?

SUS:

But they told me I didn’t have to.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

They said that.

DET2:

You don’t have to pay rent, but I’m gonna evict you. That doesn’t make any
sense.

SUS:

They want me to start paying, and we’re not ready yet.

DET2:

Okay. So there’s been some talk about you not, you and your um, boyfriend
not paying.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Okay. So is that upsetting to your dad that you haven’t been paying?

SUS:

Yeah, because I keep, he gives me this timeline, and then he short, shortened
it.

DET2:

Okay. So you’ve been under pressure. You guys gotta get a job and stuff, pay
rent.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And mom and dad are telling you to find.

SUS:

I just want to get my money back from SCOTT so I could just throw that at
them and then just leave.

DET2:

Okay. So for about two weeks you’ve been thinking of killing how many
people?

SUS:

My brother.

DET2:

Only your brother or your mom and dad?

SUS:

My brother, because I wanted to get the money back from him.

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DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

To pay them off then just.

DET2:

So why did you shoot your mom and dad? Why didn’t you just shoot your
brother?

SUS:

Because I freaked out. I freaked out because I thought they were all against
me.

DET2:

Well, I can understand freaking out for 20 seconds or 10 seconds.

SUS:

No. I thought that.

DET2:

But this takes place over two hours, MICHELE.

SUS:

I thought that they were all after me. I got paranoid. I thought they were all
after me, because why would they take SCOTT’s side? They must all be out to
get me, and I got paranoid. I went crazy.

DET2:

And is your story JOE went crazy too? He got paranoid?

SUS:

No. I guilt tripped him into helping me.

DET:

That’s a hell of a guilt trip.

SUS:

I’m a bad person.

DET:

Who were these guns registered to?

SUS:

The 9 was registered to me, and the revolver is his.

DET2:

Let’s take a break.

DET:

And when did you buy them?

SUS:

I think six years ago.

DET:

But they are both registered to you guys.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

Did you buy ‘em at a store?

SUS:

Pawn shop.

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DET:

Pawn shop. Um, I think we’re gonna take a break for a little bit. Um, what I’d
like to do is I’d like to photograph your injuries to your hands and then maybe
have you go point out the bridge to us. Is that okay?

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET:

Okay. Um, do you have any questions of me, yes or no?

SUS:

No.

DET:

Okay. And is this statement provided of your own free will and without the
threat of, or any threats or promises?

SUS:

I’m saying this because I feel guilty. You guys aren’t doing anything to me.

DET:

Okay. Ah, the time is 13:10 hours.

End of Tape 2
Tape 3, Side A
DET:

Ah, we’re back on tape. And MICHELE, are you aware this is being tape
recorded?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. And that’s okay with you?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

And you’re still willing to talk to me about the?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Death of your family, okay. Have you thought of anything new since we last left
you?

SUS:

I just know that we had a set time before I had to pay, my parents had a set
time before I had to start paying them rent, and they went back on that when I
got upset with my brother.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And that’s what made me upset.

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DET2:

What was the date?

SUS:

They just said that I had to start paying them immediately or get out.

DET:

I should have mentioned this earlier. The date is ah, still 12-26-2007. The time
we sat down is 13:55.

SUS:

We, we were having that discussion on Christmas Eve. I’m sorry. That’s when
we were saying that.

DET:

Before the shooting?

SUS:

Before.

DET:

I mean, but that, during that conversation before the shooting.

SUS:

Yeah. Yeah.

DET:

Okay. Um, as you know, ah, JOE’s been talking to some detectives down on
the roadway there. Okay. Is there any reason why he would have a different
version of events than you? What is that reason?

SUS:

We talked about covering stuff up.

DET:

Covering what?

SUS:

We, okay, we went back and forth on whether or not we were gonna confess
or cover it up, and he was covering it up if he’s not saying the same thing as
me.

DET:

Well, I, I asked you before about if you guys had an alibi in place; what was
the alibi?

SUS:

Getting married, but we also wanted to, so is that still an alibi?

DET:

Well, did you have a discussion about what you were gonna tell the police?

SUS:

Said we were just gonna say that and just not say anything else, and I wasn’t
really with it. I mean, we were for a while, but we went back and forth. But I
can’t live with myself.

DET:

No.

SUS:

So I decided to just spill it all because I can’t live with myself.

DET:

That goes to show, that goes to show what kind of person you are, um.

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SUS:

I guilt tripped him into covering everything up and the lying, and then I felt bad
about it and decided that, no; I need to just come clean. It is my fault that he is
covering it up.

DET:

I understand.

SUS:

Because he didn’t want to do any of this or cover it up at all.

DET:

Well.

SUS:

It was me.

DET:

I understand.

SUS:

I take full responsibility.

DET:

And I appreciate that. One of the different, differences in your stories is that
he’s saying you two went up there with the intent of killing your parents. Did
you guys discuss that at all? Where would he be coming, getting that
information?

SUS:

I said that I was upset with my parents and my brother and that if the problems
don’t get resolved, I, my intent was definitely to kill them.

DET:

Them being who?

SUS:

Everybody.

DET:

Okay. So at the time you guys go up.

SUS:

When we went up there.

DET:

That’s the information he had.

SUS:

Yeah. But he tried to talk me out of it.

DET:

Well, what did he say?

SUS:

It was my fault.

DET:

What did he say to try to talk you out of it?

SUS:

He said just to walk away from these people.

DET2:

He said what?

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SUS:

He said just to walk away from these people.

DET:

And how did you respond?

SUS:

I was upset because they’d been abusing me since I was five, and now they
took all this money, and I was fed up with being victimized.

DET2:

What, what bank did you have the 40,000 in that you loaned him?

SUS:

I didn’t have, it was just gradual over time. It wasn’t a lump.

DET2:

So is 40,000 just kind of a guess?

SUS:

I was, I was guessing. I don’t know exactly how much.

DET:

JOE thought it might been closer to 3,000. Do you think it could have been?

SUS:

No. The engines really bothered me. That’s what the 3,000 came from.

DET2:

Was the engine that you took over to his house or (unintelligible)

SUS:

I bought two brand-new engines for my father, and he never paid me back for
that. I, I bought him a Mustang. I bought him that blue S10, but it always
stayed in mom’s name.

DET2:

What year was that?

SUS:

’83, but it’s got an aftermarket grill, well, not aftermarket, but a ’93 grill on it.

DET2:

But when did you buy all this stuff, what year?

SUS:

This is over time from high school all the way up ‘'til now, everything added up.

DET2:

So.

SUS:

I’m just guessing. I don’t know.

DET:

I’m not gonna hold you to the figure.

SUS:

I don’t know.

DET:

I’m just trying to work out the discrepancies. Okay.

SUS:

He was supposed to, we had an agreement where, some of this stuff was an
agreement where, you know, we, we bought, I would buy the muscle cars, and

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he would do the labor. But he, but he didn’t, and I spent three years taking a
bus. And I, and it’s like, I, I gave him the money to put the engines, and he
squandered the money and then blamed me for not having enough money to
put into the car even though I gave him the money for all the parts and the
labor.
DET:

Now getting back to.

SUS:

And I gave him a down payment on his house, and I gave him mortgage
payments and food for his kids.

DET:

Do you.

SUS:

I paid for all that.

DET:

Do you have any documentation of that, canceled checks or witnesses or?

SUS:

I have a couple of checks, and the rest was cash.

DET:

Your brother is pretty successful, right? I mean we had detectives by now go
out and talk to his neighbors. He’s, he’s kind of a success story, right? You
have, you have to say yes or no for the tape.

SUS:

Oh, yeah. I’m sorry. Yes.

DET:

Okay. Um, how come..

SUS:

He undercut people to get there, and he bragged about it.

DET:

I’m not, I’m not saying he didn’t. But so the question is.

SUS:

He lied about.

DET:

If, if he’s in that kind of position where he owns a company, has a good, good
car, wife and kids, why does he need you to backfill him?

SUS:

I didn’t know what he was making at the time, and he guilt tripped me into
making payments, I mean giving him money. When he got more obviously
successful, I stopped giving him money, but this was gradual from high school.
He wasn’t always up there. This all led up to it.

DET2:

Let me ask you this (unintelligible)

SUS:

He lost his job working for TONY, and he was unemployed for a while, and I
helped out with that too. When he started at the bottom there, he said that,

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well, I only work so many days a year, and it’s inconsistent. I don’t want to lose
my house. And I gave him another, like 3, 5,000, you know, to get him through.
DET2:

When’s the last time you gave him actually money? How long ago?

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET2:

What?

SUS:

I don’t remember offhand. I’m thinking.

DET:

Months or years or?

SUS:

Well, it would be years.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I just wanted my money back.

DET:

I understand.

SUS:

And it was just totally a waste. That’s just, it’s stupid.

DET:

Going back to when you and JOE are going up to your parents’ house and you
tell him what again? That if this doesn’t go my way, how, how did you phrase
that?

SUS:

Oh, I told him that I just, I wanted my money back, and I didn’t want to be out
in the street.

DET:

Okay.

DET2:

(unintelligible)

SUS:

And I thought that if I just shot them, they’d stop attacking me, because they
continued to verbally and physically attack me.

DET:

Your parents did?

SUS:

Yeah, and my, no, just throughout the whole time. My parents when I was
growing up verbally and physically attacked me. But as an adult they verbally
attacked me.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

My brother had always been verbal and physically abusive.

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DET:

Towards you?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

But you have choices.

SUS:

That doesn’t justify anything. I made the wrong decision.

DET:

Yeah, and I.

SUS:

I should have walked away from that.

DET:

I appreciate you for taking accountability.

SUS:

It’s my fault.

DET:

Okay. I just want to make sure I’m clear in my own mind because JOE’s giving
a different account.

SUS:

I went up there, and if they didn’t give me back my money and stop attacking
me and slandering me across town, because she was, she slandered me
across town, that I would shoot ‘em all (unintelligible)

DET2:

So tell me again. Were your mom and dad separated in rooms, or were they
together? Be honest with that.

SUS:

They were married.

DET2:

No.

SUS:

But they slept in different rooms.

DET2:

No.

DET:

At the time of the shooting.

DET2:

When you went up there, because we’re getting some different versions. Did
you guys separate them, or were they together?

SUS:

Well, my dad was in the living room, dining room area, and my mom was
coming down the hall toward the kitchen; and she got shot in the kitchen, and
my dad fell in the dining room.

DET:

JOE said that he might have been a little diversion when you walked in. Do
you know what that would have been?

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SUS:

I don’t understand.

DET:

Ah, that he separated one of your parents from the other.

SUS:

I didn’t realize he was doing that.

DET:

Okay. Did you see it happen?

SUS:

I just know that, oh, okay, I know what he’s talking about. Mom was wrapping
presents, and she was coming down the hallway, but he was there, so I could
shoot my dad.

DET:

So that’s initially when you walk in, right?

SUS:

No. We were talking.

DET:

Oh, how long did you talk?

SUS:

No. We were there for like an hour.

DET:

Oh, really.

SUS:

You know.

DET:

You made it sound like it was much quicker, so what.

SUS:

I mean, we were talking normal, and then the argument was quicker.

DET2:

Okay. Tell me what the argument was about. Was it about rent?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

And SCOTT not paying me back and they changed change that. And she
walked off, and I just, I just got mad.

DET:

Was there a ah, a code word or a signal, how?

SUS:

No. No. I just, I just.

DET:

Well, MICHELE, you said that you were with your father and that JOE held up
your mother or at least kept her away.

SUS:

No. This is how the mobile home is.

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DET2:

Here, use my notepad.

SUS:

He’s like within sight of me. He’s within sight of me, and I’m just pulling it out,
and he sees that.

DET:

So he sees that.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

If you need to draw something, here’s a piece of paper.

SUS:

I just told him that, look, I’m going get my dad and then shoot my mom.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

(unintelligible)

DET:

So you had told him that previous, before entering the house?

SUS:

No, just the second before I pulled the firearm.

DET:

You said that.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

And what did your dad, how, what was your dad’s reaction?

SUS:

He didn’t hear that.

DET2:

Where did you have the conversation with JOE to say that?

SUS:

The kitchen.

DET:

So that.

SUS:

Then I just walked out.

DET:

I know, but that’s where the plan was hatched, and then he went and stood by
your mom.

JK:

What did JOE say when you told him that you wanted to shoot your dad?

SUS:

He didn’t want to do anything.

JK:

What did he say?

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SUS:

I don’t remember.

DET2:

Well, what did you say?

SUS:

(unintelligible) I don’t remember.

DET2:

Did you say it’s time, or I’m gonna go shoot him, or what, what were your exact
words to him?

SUS:

I don’t remember. I’m not trying to cover anything up. I don’t remember.

DET:

That’s fine. JOE..

DET2:

(unintelligible) conversation (unintelligible)

SUS:

I just know that it, look, I know what you’re asking me. Yes; it was
premeditated; and yes, I was fed up with everything.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

Because they, they abused me for so long, and I should have just walked
away from it.

DET:

Well, we’ll cover that in a second. JOE told the other detectives that he had
apologized before shooting. Do you recall that?

SUS:

Um hum, yes.

DET:

What did you say or do?

SUS:

Because I just wanted them to stop hurting us. I didn’t want to have to do this,
and we were sorry for it; and we felt really bad.

DET2:

What did you say? Did you say any comments to anybody?

SUS:

We all apologized, both of us, when we shot everybody.

DET:

So, ..

SUS:

Even though my father was attacking me, I was sorry.

DET2:

Tell me what you.

SUS:

Because this is excessive. I should of just walked away from it all. It’s not
worth it.

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DET2:

MICHELE, what did you say to your dad?

SUS:

I said, this is not fair that I did so much for the family and everybody abused
me and attacked me so much. And all I want is my money back so I can just
leave.

DET:

And at what point did you pull out the gun?

SUS:

I said, look, I’m sorry, and I walked in the kitchen and I unwrapped it and came
back and shot ‘em.

DET2:

So you unwrapped it in the kitchen out of your...

SUS:

No. I had a sweatshirt wrapped around my arm.

DET2:

Right.

SUS:

And the gun was strapped, not strapped, but tucked into it, and I was just
holding it.

DET2:

And then you walked into the kitchen.

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

And then.

SUS:

And I took it out of that, and then I just shot ‘em because I was fed up. And it’s
wrong. I take full responsibility.

DET:

I, I know.

DET2:

We’re just trying to get the sequence down.

SUS:

And it was the stupidest thing ever. Nothing was worth this. I, I should of just
listened to JOE ‘cause he tried to talk me out of it the entire time. It was my
idea, not his.

DET2:

Did you say any words to anybody else? Did you apologize to anyone else?

SUS:

I apologized to everybody because I didn’t want it to turn out like that, but I
knew it would. Do you understand? I mean, I went up there knowing I’d
probably shoot these people, but I didn’t want to.

DET:

Well, what did you say or do to show these people you were sorry?

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SUS:

I just said sorry before shooting ‘em. It’s horrible. I’m a bad person.

DET:

Did you hear JOE do similar?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET:

What did you hear?

SUS:

He said I’m sorry.

DET2:

To?

DET:

And, and what was the response?

SUS:

He just stared.

DET2:

Who did you hear him say he’s sorry to?

SUS:

ERICA and the kids. We both shot ERICA. He shot the kids, not me.

DET:

Okay. What were the, how were the kids reacting?

SUS:

NATHAN looked like he knew.

DET:

What does that mean?

SUS:

Like, like he knew that, that he was gonna die and was accepting it. It was
weird.

DET:

How did that make you feel?

DET2:

Is..

SUS:

Awful.

DET:

Did you do anything to prevent it?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

Did you have that discussion with JOE about NATHAN?

SUS:

We weren’t gonna shoot the kids.

DET2:

No. But did you have a discussion with him after the fact about what NATHAN
looked like or what he?

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SUS:

We felt horrible.

DET2:

So you guys talked about that.

SUS:

Yes. But this was all my idea. I pushed him into it. We both felt really bad. I
should of walked away from it. I take 100 percent responsibility for it.

DET2:

Was, was, was JOE able to get to the truck by himself?

SUS:

What?

DET2:

Can he walk? Can JOE walk?

SUS:

What do you mean?

DET2:

Well, was he able to get to the truck as a passenger?

SUS:

Yeah. That’s what I’m saying is that we could of walked away from this.

DET2:

Okay.

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET2:

But was he able to walk and, and get to the truck?

SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

Was he able to have a weapon?

SUS:

None of us where….

DET2:

Was he able to carry a gun?

SUS:

Yeah.

DET2:

Okay. So he’s a big, big boy, right.

SUS:

Yes.

DET2:

Okay. So don’t take responsibility for his actions.

SUS:

He wouldn’t of done this if I hadn’t of asked him to help me.

DET2:

What did you do with the holster?

SUS:

We burned it.

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DET2:

You burnt the holster.

SUS:

I forgot about that. I wasn’t trying to cover that up. I forgot.

DET2:

Okay. Well, things, you’re gonna forget things.

DET:

Let me ask you this. You said that the whole motive was to, you know, confront
your brother and get this money back.

SUS:

And my parents for the abuse and supporting him and not helping me.

DET:

Exactly, and you’ve also said that you knew this may come to a shooting.

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

Okay. Was there ever any talk about what to do with these kids? I mean, you
knew.

SUS:

No. We never.

DET:

But you know your, your sister-in-law is gonna show up with the kids.

SUS:

We never talked about that. I just, well, when we did this, I didn’t want
anybody; it was like a culmination of not wanting them, they have to live with
these memories, and not wanting witnesses. It’s horrible.

DET:

Yeah.

SUS:

I’m a monster. I’m sorry.

DET:

Have, since the shooting has occurred, have you told anyone else what you’ve
done?

SUS:

No, just JOE.

DET:

You’re sure?

SUS:

Just JOE, I’m positive.

DET2:

What about, do you have a sister named MARY?

SUS:

I have a sister named MARY, but I did not talk to her.

DET:

And she’s safe right now.

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Suspect Statement
MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

I, she doesn’t know; she knows nothing.

DET2:

Where does she live?

SUS:

She lives in North Bend.

DET2:

Is she married?

SUS:

I don’t have a problem with my sister.

DET2:

Is she married?

SUS:

No.

DET2:

What’s her last name?

SUS:

ANDERSON.

DET2:

What if she would of arrived at the property?

SUS:

I just would of ran.

DET2:

What?

SUS:

I just would of ran, I think, or no; I wouldn’t.

DET2:

Do you think you would of shot her, maybe?

SUS:

I might have. I’m sorry.

DET2:

I know you’re sorry. We’re just trying to get some more details. What do you
remember about ah, the casings that came out of the gun?

SUS:

I don’t remember if he collected them and threw ‘em out or not; but he
probably did.

DET2:

Did you guys ever talk about it?

SUS:

I don’t remember. I’m not lying either. I just, I don’t remember. I’m sorry.

DET:

That’s fine. Okay.

SUS:

No. This is stupid. I’m sorry.

DET:

And (unintelligible)

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KCSO Case #07-366042
Suspect Statement
MICHELE ANDERSON

SUS:

I’m 100 percent responsible. I don’t deserve to be free.

DET2:

MICHELE.

SUS:

We went back and forth between trying to cover it up and admitting it.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

And when we drove up, we came here. I’m like, I just knew it, and then I
freaked out in the car, and I was telling you half of the truth. None of that was a
lie. I was just leaving out stuff, and I did not feel good. I just didn’t think I could
do it.

DET:

Yeah.

SUS:

And also I was scared. But I deserve to come clean, so I’m just telling you
everything I can remember.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

I didn’t mean to forget.

DET2:

No.

DET:

(unintelligible)

SUS:

I’ll show you where the bullets and where the guns are if I can see it on the
road.

DET:

You, you.

SUS:

I don’t remember exactly where the bullets are, but I can narrow it down on
south I 5. I can find it.

DET:

Okay.

SUS:

That’s all. I don’t want…

DET:

And you’re will, you’re willing to still do that?

SUS:

Yes.

DET:

All right. The time is now 14:12 hours. Is this statement true and correct to the
best of your knowledge?

SUS:

It’s 100 percent the truth.

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Suspect Statement
MICHELE ANDERSON

DET:

Okay. Anything you’d like to add or clarify?

SUS:

I’m sorry.

DET:

All right.

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