The Debate between Myself and The Mufti of DarulUloom Los Angeles

Some Info on the Mufti From his website: Mufti Taha Khan is the student of world famous scholar, the Grand Mufti of South Africa: Shaikhul Hadith wa Tafseer Mufti Radha ul Haq, Mufti Taha has received a P.H.D in Islamic Theology. He has excelled in the fields of Tafseer, Hadith, Fiqh and Tajweed, and has received written authorizations from the scholars of the sub-continent to the scholars of Al-Azhar university. He has served as Judge in various Hifz and Qiraat competitons in the various states, and is also the founder of Darul-Uloom Los Angeles.

Mufti Taha Khan: Uzair when debating before jumping into the things that fall under the opposite side we first analyze the claims itself... I prooved to u that ur own claim has failed that for something to be proof u say it has to be in Quran ..... And all if a sudden khidr starts to talk about context? R u guys serious ? Also uzair you said that Quran says the prophet never understood the Quran can u show me where it says that please... I wanna know ... So where's that verse? Yasin Riley if i may interject, It was never said that the Prophet never understood the Qur'an. However, like any other Human, Muhammad sometimes needed to be reminded; because sometimes he made haste before the revelation was made clear to him. Here are the verses: 20:114 Supremely exalted then is Allah, the King, the Truth. And make not haste with the Quran before its revelation is made complete to thee, and say: My Lord, increase me in knowledge. 75:14-19 Nay, man is evidence against himself, Though he put up excuses. Move not thy tongue therewith to make haste with it. Surely on Us rests the collecting of it and the reciting of it. So when We recite it, follow its recitation. Again on Us rests the explaining of it. Muhammad, was a Messenger and the Seal of the Prophets. He was only a Human Being doing his job. He still ate, slept and defecated like all of us does. He was not infallible, he made mistakes as well. Mufti Taha Khan: Yes but the rest of what the prophet preached and taught Allah never corrected him... This shows that the rest is suppost to be accepted, the corrections Allah made were not in delivering the word if Allah rather the things he did or said besides the

word of Allah and so if they were wrong Allah corrected him right away ... Now there's a thousand things the prophet saw did and said ... If they were wrong Allah would have made it clear aswell. Also the Quran speaks good of the sahaba and explicitly mentioned the muhajireen and Ansaar in the Quran. And prophets companions in the Quran.... All of them used to follow the prophet ... If it was bad or not permissible how come Allah promised them jannah and what not ? Yasin Riley:Im not saying these things to make you look bad, but as you asked, I will answer your questions from here on out to show you the truth. According to the Hadith all of you sunnis follow, the 1st revelation was," Read in the name of your Lord who created you...(96:1)" Was Allah telling Muhammad to read the Hadith Attributed to him? no, Allah was saying to Read what was revealed. Wait, If the Qur'an was never written, How could Allah said, Read? Also, How could Muhammad have been able to read, when he could not read? Allah did not send down a book, Allah inspired Ayats to Muhammad's heart. So, with that said, wouldn't it be more correct to say that Allah said to Recite in the name of your Lord? as Qaf-Ra-Alif also means to recite. (After Avoiding answering my Question, the Mufti Decided to run back to a Question he asked Khidr) Mufti Taha Khan:Back to the question that u guys should have answered along time ago. Where is the ayah that says examine the context? Please don't say anything besides the answer and verse. Yasin Riley:In their histories there is certainly a lesson for men of understanding. It is not a Hadith which could be forged, but a verification of what is before it, >>>and a distinct explanation of all things<<<, and a guide and a mercy to a people who believe. (Q. 12:111) And they cannot bring thee a question, but We have brought thee the truth and >>>the best explanation<<<.(Q. 25:33) But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith. And We explain in detail the Ayats for a people who know.(9:11) ...And We have explained everything in Detail. (17:12) The Qur'an is Fasal/Tasrif, Mathal, and Tafsir. The Qur'an not only explains itself, but it also Repeats the Explanation, so that there is no reason to doubt things. and it is done in detail. Allah also said to verify all things, and not to follow anything you have no knowledge of. 17:36 And follow not that of which thou has no knowledge. Surely the hearing and the

sight and the heart, of all of these it will be asked. As i said Earlier, Do not make haste with the Qur'an before the meaning is made known. And constantly ask Allah to increase you in knowledge. That is a commandment from Allah. (2 1/2 hrs have passed, Mufti Taha Khan Finally replies) Mufti Taha Khan:Hajaha Riley the pilot now. No one here answered or provided me with the verse that says and examine the context !New pilot! Can you perhaps give the verse the original pilot couldn't? Yasin Riley:And here i thought Muftis/Imams had intellectual mental capacity... guess i was wrong. Mufti Taha Khan, Do you understand English well? Of The Synonyms of Context, Details is one of the Primary Synonyms. Also along with that, topic, and meaning as well. Did i not post 17:36, 20:114, and 25:33? key points: - Follow that which you have no Knowledge of - Make not haste until the Revelation is completed? being what? the meaning obviously, or Allah would not be commanding us t ask for Understanding - Allah brought the Best Explanation. Now i see what Khidr is dealing with. Also Mufti Taha Khan, BTW, Im not Khidr. I am Yasin. Even if i chose to use a dictionary, I can. Because dictionaries are tools to teach linguistics, not Qur'an. 2 1/2 hrs, and all you could retort with is a translated word? that is where dictionaries become a factor, to Show you, that the word is used correctly as it should be. Mufti Taha Khan Ask a first grade student and he will tell you the difference between context and detail. When someone asks for detail he wants you to clarify something But when you ask for context the meaning will only be understood from its surroundings. PLEASE VIEWERS pAY ATTENTION. Yasin Riley:So, what does Fasala, the root of Tafsir mean? It means what? To explain in detail, or with context. Case closed. Lets look at a similar word: Safara, the root word of Tasrif, which is a explanation. What does a explanation entail? Right! Context and Detail. now i have to teach the Mufti Arabic Linguistics as well as English Linguistics. Do us all a favor. Lets leave Allah as the Alm. Detail means what again? to give the meaning, or context... same exact thing.Just take your loss. atleast you retain your dignity.

Ok, Just to show the Audience, I have just showed you all what Fasala and what Safara translates into. Allow me to further break down the meanings: explain [ik-spleyn] verb (used with object) 1. to make plain or clear; render understandable or intelligible: to explain an obscure point. 2. to make known in detail: to explain how to do something. 3. to assign a meaning to; interpret: How can you explain such a silly remark? 4. to make clear the cause or reason of; account for: I cannot explain his strange behavior. context [kon-tekst] noun 1. the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context. 2. the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc. detail [n. dih-teyl, dee-teyl; v. dih-teyl] noun 1. an individual or minute part; an item or particular. 2. particulars collectively; minutiae. 3. attention to or treatment of a subject in individual or minute parts: to postpone detail and concentrate on a subject as a whole. verb (used with object) 4. to relate or report with complete particulars; tell fully and distinctly. 5. to mention one by one; specify; list: He detailed the events leading up to the robbery. All Similar or exact meanings, and very synonymous. they all support each other.

The triliteral root d r f ( ) occurs 30 times in the Quran, in seven derived forms: 14 times as the form I verb arafa ( ) 10 times as the form II verb arraf ( ) once as the form VII verb inarafu ) ( once as the noun arf ( ) once as the noun marif ( ) once as the passive participle marf ( ) twice as the form II verbal noun tarf ( ) The translations below are brief glosses intended as a guide to meaning. An Arabic word may have a range of meanings depending on context. Click on a word for more linguistic information, or to suggestion a correction.

Verb (form I) - to divert, to turn away (3:152:30) arafakum (6:16:2) yu'raf He diverted you

is averted

(7:47:2) urifat are turned

(7:146:1) sa-arifu I will turn away (9:127:15) arafa

Allah has turned away (are) you turned away

(10:32:11) tu'rafna

(12:24:12) linarifa that We might avert (12:33:10) tarif (12:34:4) faarafa You turn away and turned away

(24:43:30) wayarifuhu

and averts it

 Avert (39:6:36) tu'rafna are you turning away (25:65:4) i'rif (40:69:10) yu'rafna (46:29:2) arafn they are turned away

We directed

Verb (form II) - to explain (6:46:19) nuarrifu We explain (6:65:24) nuarrifu We explain (6:105:2) nuarrifu We explain (7:58:14) nuarrifu We explain (17:41:2) arrafn (17:89:2) arrafn (18:54:2) arrafn

We have explained We have explained We have explained and We have explained We have distributed it and We have diversified

(20:113:5) waarrafn (25:50:2) arrafnhu (46:27:7) waarrafn

Verb (form VII) - to turn away (9:127:14) inaraf they turn away Noun (25:19:7) arfan Noun (18:53:10) marifan a way of escape (to) avert

Passive participle (11:8:15) marfan (will be) averted Verbal noun (form II) (2:164:34) watarfi and directing (45:5:16) watarfi and (in) directing

Its all there. Rule # 108: All Frauds, Hypocrites, Liars, and False Prophets, will be Exposed! Mufti Taha Khan:It comes to this ... Either Allah is wrong because he announces his happiness about those who follow Hadith and according to u abscribe partners with Allah which is a clear contradiction OR you are wrong! Yasin Riley:Be a Man, and stop averting Fact. You are obviously under the Shaitanic Affliction of Cognitive Dissonance Akh. Your in Phase 2. Denial. You have met a Unstoppable force, and cannot stand to falter before it. This unstoppable force, is Al Qur'an. So what you will do now, is attempt to nit pick letter for letter, hoping to find a thread to unravel this Garment of Evidence. which you wont, its stitched and burned into place. and you will never be able to refute the truth. So continue to wander in confusion with your mouth silent. thats all you can do with the truth. And Allah will Establish the Truth By His Words! Allah has revealed the best Statement ( ,) a Book consistent( ,) Oft-repeating( , ) whereat do shudder the skins of those who fear their Lord, then their skins and their hearts soften to Allahs remembrance. This is Allahs guidance -- He guides with it whom He pleases. And he whom Allah leaves in error, there is no guide for him.(39:23) Don't Doubt me, Im on My way, I read Allah's revelation, and Follow it. Don't Doubt Allah, You're the one who choose to Reject. Blame yourself for your own Arrogance. Its all Cold Steel (Ayatu Al Qur'an) Cutting into the flesh of Falsehood and Ignorance. It knocks the brains out of Falsehood. And myself, as well as those here who trusts in it, are wielding it. (He completely left after that. As there was nothing he could say or do to Refute what i said, though he attempted to use the sahaba of the prophet to question what was being shown to him. He never answered the questions put to him by myself, Khidr, or Uzair.)