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Shooting the Sacred Cows of Money Putting a bullet in the head of bad financial advice
A Quick Note from Robert
Throughout history, cultures have tightly grasped their sacred cows (dearly held beliefs so commonly accepted, so religiously observed, that to question them is sacrilege). Our culture is no different. Our beliefs are no less sacred. Especially when it comes to money. A year or so ago, Kim and I did something wed never done before. We assembled all the Rich Dad advisors in one room to talk about the common myths our culture holds about money. These myths include: Go to school Get a job Work hard Save money Your house is an asset Get out of debt Live below your means Invest for the long term in a well-diversified portfolio
The conversations were candid, funny, and dead-on. We filmed these conversations and placed them on a website, www.shootingthesacredcows.com. The goal was to create short, free, easy-to-watch, and easy-to-share videos to introduce those new to the Rich Dad message and to help the Rich Dad community educate their family, friends, and co-workers about Rich Dad principles. Rich Dads vision has always been to provide comprehensive financial education with quality, free resources when possible to as many people as we can. The mission of Sacred Cows is to take you from the established mindset about money to the enlightened mindset, to put a bullet to the head of bad financial advice, and to help you take charge of your financial future. The videos are available for free online at www.shootingthesacredcows.com. But we thought it would be a great idea to take the content from the videos and condense it all into a free eBook that is easy to share. So, thats what weve done.
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The following eBook is an edited version of the video transcript. I hope you enjoy it. Please share it with your friends, family, and co-workersanyone you know who could benefit from the collective knowledge of the Rich Dad team. Comprehensive financial education is still the surest way to financial freedom, both personally and as a society. Together we can make a difference.
Robert T. Kiyosaki Robert is the founder of The Rich Dad Company, a recognized brand worldwide and a global leader in financial education, empowering people to escape the Rat Race and find financial freedom. A successful entrepreneur and investor, Robert is the author of 19 books, including Rich Dad Poor Dadthe #1 personal finance book of all time. Hes regularly featured on shows such as Larry King Live, Oprah, and Your World with Neil Cavuto. Roberts bestseller, Conspiracy of the Rich: The 8 New Rules of Money, pioneered online book publishing as a free online interactive book with contributions from over a million readers in over 167 countries. Frequent updates appear on www.conspiracyoftherich.com
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His latest release, Unfair Advantage, addresses what schools will never teach you about money and incorporates both audio and video into Rich Dads first enhanced eBook. A true advocate of effective financial education, Robert isnt afraid to challenge the status quo. He offers financial advice that exposes the absurdity of conventional attitudes about money and debunks the so-called financial experts.
Kim Kiyosaki As an internationally renowned speaker, author, entrepreneur, and real estate investor, Kim knows what it takes to succeed and be a financially independent woman. Shes a sought-after speaker, television and radio talk-show guest, the host of a PBS Rich Woman show, and a columnist for www.WomenEntrepreneur.com. Through her international brand, Rich Woman, Kim draws on a lifetime of experience in business and investing to be an advocate for women in the marketplace. A self-made millionaire, Kim is a happily married (but fiercely independent) woman and often travels and speaks with her husband, Robert Kiyosaki. Her first book, Rich Woman, was a Business Week bestseller and is one of the top 50 best-selling personal-finance books of all time.
Ken McElroy Ken is a founding partner of MC Companies, a real estate investment company that specializes in management, investment, development, and construction with a portfolio across the southwestern United States of over 10,000 apartment units valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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As a Rich Dad Advisor, Ken brings 20 years of real estate experience to the team and speaks to thousands of people across the globe each year. He is the author of the Rich Dad Advisor books The ABCs of Real Estate Investing, The Advanced Guide to Real Estate Investing, and The ABCs of Property Management. He is also a contributing author to Roberts The Real Book of Real Estate and the author of The Sleeping Giant: The Awakening of the Self-Employed Entrepreneur. Find out more at www.KenMcElroy.com, www.mccompanies.com, and www.thesleepinggiant.com.
Andy Tanner Andy is a renowned paper-assets expert and successful business owner and investor known for his ability to teach key techniques for stock-options investing. In 2008, Andy was key in helping develop and launch Rich Dads Stock Success System which teaches investors advanced technical trading techniques to profit from bull and bear markets. He serves as a coach to Rich Dads Stock Success System trainers and as the Rich Dad Advisor for paper assets. He is currently authoring an upcoming Rich Dad Advisor book on paper-asset investing.
Anita Rodriguez Anita homeschooled her four children before becoming a teacher and counselor in the poorest high schools of Denvers inner city. Later, she was a high school administrator for Douglas County in Colorado, one of the wealthiest counties in the nation. Having spent most of her life in education and seen first-hand the lack of sound financial education in the U.S. school system, she joined The Rich Dad Company in 2006 as an Education Advisor. She brings her vast experience to Rich Dad to help develop world-class financial-education curriculums that change lives.
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Blair Singer Blair is a top-rated and internationally known speaker and sales communications trainer. Since 1987 hes worked with tens of thousands of individuals and organizations such as IBM and JPMorgan to help them achieve extraordinary levels of sales, performance, productivity, and cash flow. As a speaker and Rich Dad Advisor, Blair has presented in over 20 countries across 5 continents on life-changing sales success, and is the author of the Rich Dad Advisor books Sales Dogs and The ABCs of Building a Business Team that Wins. Find out more at www.salesdogs.com and www.blairsinger.com.
Tom Wheelwright Tom is the founder and principal for ProVision Wealth Strategies. For more than 25 years, Tom has devised innovative tax, business, and wealth strategies for sophisticated investors and business owners. Tom is an international speaker and an adjunct professor in the Masters of Tax program at Arizona State University. He serves as the Rich Dad Advisor for Tax and Wealth Strategy and is the author of an upcoming Rich Dad Advisor book on building wealth through tax strategies. Find out more at www.provisionwealth.com.
Garrett Sutton Garret is a founder and partner with Sutton Law Center, P.C., a law firm with offices in Nevada, Wyoming, and California. He has over 20 years experience assisting and advising entrepreneurs, families, and businesses in selecting the appropriate corporate structures to limit their liability, protect their assets, and advance their personal financial goals. As a Rich Dad Advisor, Garrett speaks frequently at Rich Dad events on the topic of corporate formation and asset protection. He is the author of the Rich Dad Advisor books The ABCs of Writing Winning Business Plans, The ABCs of Getting Out of Debt, Own Your Own Corporation, and How to Buy and Sell a Business. Find out more at www.garrettsutton.com and www.sutlaw.com.
Mike Maloney Mike is the owner and founder of www.goldsilver.com, an online precious-metals dealership that specializes in the delivery of gold and silver and secured storage. Additionally, www.goldsilver.com provides research and commentary for its clients, assisting them in their wealth-building endeavors. Mike has spoken to audiences throughout the world on the benefits of precious-metals investing. A student of economics, Mike is regarded as an expert on economic cycles and capitalizing on the opportunities they afford. He is the author of the Rich Dad Advisor book, Guide to Investing in Gold and Silver. Find out more at www.goldsilver.com.
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Kathy Heasley Kathy is the founder and principal of Heasley & Partners, Inc., a branding and marketing firm, which pioneered and champions Heart & Mind Branding. A successful author, entrepreneur, business coach, and public speaker, Kathy serves as the Rich Dad Advisor for marketing and branding. She has over 20 years of experience helping to shape brands like Cold Stone Creamery and Massage Envy and is an international speaker on branding, marketing, and communications. Find out more at www.heasleyandpartners.com.
Trina White Maduro Trina is a businesswoman, investor, and social entrepreneur. She grew up in the midst of violence, drugs, and gangs on the south side of Chicago and was raised in a single-parent home with 14 other siblings and family members. Trina excelled in sports and initially viewed professional basketball as her destiny and vehicle to success. She later chose to pursue a career in social work and ministry through non-profit organizations and churches, which shes done for the last 21 years. Today, she is a social entrepreneur who understands how to use money to create opportunities and better the lives of herself and those she serves.
Rodney Anderson Rodney is the Executive Director and Senior Managing Partner for Rodney Anderson with Supreme Lending. He is the leading home-loan specialist in Texas, and has arranged financing for over 20,000 families over the last 18 years. He is the #1 producer of mortgage origination in the state of Texas and was named the #1 FHA/VA lender by Mortgage Originator magazine. Rodney brings his 25 years of experience to the table as the Rich Dad Advisor on lending. Visit www.RodneyAnderson.com for more information.
Marco Antonio Regil Marco is a successful entertainment entrepreneur and investor. Hes Mexicos number-one TV host and has devoted 25 years of his life to radio and television. Hes a spokesperson for such companies as McDonalds, Pepsi, and Nestle and for non-profit organizations like the American Red Cross and the Mexican Telethon. Hes helped raise more than $40 million every year for these charities.
Kim Prior to meeting Robert, I had very-little-to-no financial education. And what Roberts rich dad taught him and what we learned on our journey to becoming financially free was not what we heard from financial advisers and planners. In fact, it was almost the opposite. We found that lots of people were asking us how we achieved financial freedom, so we created the CASHFLOW game to teach people just what we did, which was quite the opposite of what many people are taught. Robert Today were in a financial crisis. Kim and I saw this crisis coming, and that was the reason back in 1996 that we created The Rich Dad Companyto provide financial education so people can learn to take care of themselves. I was always taught the importance of teaching people to fish instead of giving people fish. Unfortunately, what our governments do today is give people fish rather than teach them to fish. And the more you give people fish, the more poor people you create. The Rich Dad Company was formed to teach people what my rich dad taught me, but more importantly, to teach them how to fish. Kim Like Robert said, theres a huge financial crisis going on right now. If something isnt working for you financially today, then maybe you need to look for new answers. And were always looking for new answers. Thats what Shooting the Sacred Cows is aboutgetting financially educated, taking charge of your life, and not depending on the government or other financial experts. Robert Our answer to the financial crisis is to get financially educated. Instead of starting out with learning how to fish, financial education begins by shooting the sacred cows of money. Money does not start in your hands. Money actually starts in your head. People hold to sacred cows, age-old Industrial-Age beliefs, such as, Go to school. Everybody says, Well, you have to go to school. Unfortunately, you dont learn anything about money in school. In Shooting the Sacred Cows of Money, were going to say some things that will challenge you. You might even say, Thats not fair! Well, were not trying to be fair. There is no fairness when it comes to money. Either youre a winner, or youre a loser. We say hard things because they are the truth, but also because we care about your financial future. The lies of the sacred cows of money actually hurt people. A sacred cow is something that everyone accepts as truthand its taboo to say anything bad about it or to the contrary. There are many sacred cows regarding money. They are serious, and they hurt people.
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Todays world is different than it used to be. The way things always have been done financially isnt working, and its time that somebody stands up and shoots a few sacred cows so that people stop suffering. A good analogy is the people who lived in New Orleans prior to Hurricane Katrina. They knew they lived below sea level. They knew that it was only a matter of when, not if, a disaster like Katrina hit. Yet, they chose to ignore the potential consequences. And they paid the price. Today, weve got a lot of financial storms. You need to be prepared. We have a solutiona very strong solution. By shooting the sacred cows of money, we hope to wake you up to start thinking differently. So, lock and load.
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Robert And youre an A student, right? Tom Yes, Im an A student. Robert: Well forgive you. Tom Thank you. But when I went to school, the only financial education I got was specific to my profession. There was no general financial education. I could have gotten a masters degree and a PhD in my field without any specific financial education at all about how to handle myself once I got out of school. Robert Right. And people say to me, Well, I learned economics in school. Economics is financial education, right? Not really. Its not about investing. Its not about the law. Its not about taxes, not about history. Garrett Robert, as a lawyer, I see all sorts of people walk through the door. Some are highly educated, and some have no education at all, but like you said, theyre street smart. And the first time I saw this type of client, I thought, Wow! Hes doing pretty well. He didnt go to college, but hes got all this real estate. And then theres a pattern that develops where you see a lot of people who never went to college but are street smart and have done very well. Kim I was talking to a woman the other day. Shes a highly successful medical doctor. Shes very smart in many ways, but when we were talking, she finally looked at me and said, Oh my gosh. I have not a clue about my money. Shes 45 years old, and she has not a clue. Many times you think that, because people are successful, they know something about money. But they really dont because they never had the education. Andy School creates a culture of dependence. We depend on three things. We depend on a corporation to take care of us. We depend on government to take care of us. And, the scary one I think is, we depend on institutionsyou know, the people who run our 401(k)s to take care of us. We rob ourselves of the independence to think freely as entrepreneurs or investors, and we become dependent on those three entities. Its brutal. Robert Mr. Maloney, you never finished school, did you? Mike No, no. I failed school, but more than that, school failed me. I was dyslexic.
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They didnt know what dyslexia was back then, but basically I was just like you, Robert. I was bored stiff. I got put in all the remedial classes. Basically, I was in with the dumb kids. They werent teaching me anything I wanted to learn or anything that I would ever use in my lifetime. Robert And the reason Im bringing up Michael is that most people will agree hes probably the smartest guy on this team. And the problem for Michael was that there are three kinds of education. Theres academic: reading, writing and arithmetic. Theres professional: become a doctor or a lawyer or, in my case, a pilot. And theres financial. But Michael was put back because of academics, because you cant read, right? Mike Right. Robert So, how did you learn to read? Mike Apple came out with OSX at the beginning of the last decade, and you can just select text, hit a button, and the computer reads to you. Most people dont know its built into the operating system. I developed a passion for global finance and economics and monetary history especially. And passion drives you. Robert Now we cant shut him up, and Im going to blame Apple for that one! Andy School is so low gain. I didnt do well in school. I did very well in sports, and in sports you learn to compete. You learn to deal with pressure. Goals in school are individually focused. Youre competing against everybody, and teamwork is called cheating in school. Some of us cheated better than others. Robert: And Ill just say the last thing about school that really upsets me. In America, schools are based on real estate tax. In other words, if you come from a rich neighborhood, the real estate tax pays for better schools. If you are from a poor neighborhood, you get less money. So, any time somebody tells me schooling is about being fair, when I look at the number side of it, it isnt. If youre poor, youre getting the worst possible education. To me, that is cruelty. So how does a person learn about money? How does a person increase their financial intelligence? A diagram called the Cone of Learning provides some interesting clues.
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Cone of Learning
After 2 weeks we tend to remember Doing the Real Thing 90% of what we say and do Simulating the Real Experience Doing a Dramatic Presentation Giving a Talk 70% of what we say Participating in a Discussion Seeing it Done on Location Watching a Demonstration 50% of what we hear and see Looking at an Exhibit Watching a Demonstration Watching a Movie 30% of what we see 20% of what we hear 10% of what we read Looking at Pictures Hearing Words Reading Nature of Involvement
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The Cone of Learning was created by an educational researcher named Edgar Dale in 1969. What he found is that the worst way to learn is by reading or listening to a lecture. And the best way to learn is at the top of the cone, which is simulations through games, and then doing the real thing. The interesting thing is that my poor dad who was good at school thought that reading and lecture were the best way to learn. My rich dad taught me to be a rich man by using methods at the top of the cone. He taught me using the game of Monopolyyou know, four green houses, one red hotel, four green houses, one red hoteland then we went out and did the real thing. So, one of the ways, if you want to learn without much risk, is by simulations, playing games. The reason my wife and I created the CASHFLOW game was so that you could play and make a lot of mistakes with play money. How many people in this room have made financial mistakes?
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Kathy Yes, the only thing we were ever taught in school was maybe how to balance a checkbook, how to have a savings account, those basics. Robert Financial education is like learning another language. Marco I say this all the time in Mexico. If you learn English, you can do business with the whole world. Robert When you learn to speak the language of money, it opens up a whole new world. And unfortunately in our school systems, we dont teach the language of money. We teach people the language of becoming a doctor, lawyer, or an employee.
Tom Oh, by far. Its the self-employed people because, not only are they paying the highest income taxes, they also get the privilege of paying Social Security taxes and Medicare taxes on everything they earn. So, theyre paying extra taxes just to be in that S quadrant. Robert Right. My mother wanted me to be a doctor. If I had followed that advice, Id be paying the highest tax possible. They make a lot of money, but they pay the highest percentage in taxes. So thats why this relates back to go to school. Tom Thats right. And they actually have the fewest options to reduce their taxes. But the tax laws are really geared towards those people who are creating jobs, the entrepreneursthose who are creating housing, real estate investorsbecause the government understands thats what we need. They want the private sector to do that, and so they reward them for doing so. And thats really all the tax law is. Its a system of rewards for people doing what the government wants you to do. Blair The other part of it is this whole idea of getting a job. Theres some kind of a myth out there that goes with get the job, get a safe, secure job. And so that by getting a job somehow youre going to be taken care of for the rest of your life. All you have to do is pick up any paper to see how many tens of thousands of people are losing their jobs. There are no safe, secure jobs, and now were competing with India and Asia for jobs that were sacred to America at one point in time. So, this whole idea of having a job and being secure is just not true. Its probably the most insecure thing you could be doing right now. Robert The idea of a secure job is an Industrial-Age idea. Blair Exactly. Kim The only option put into your head is to go get a job, and I wasnt around Robert Thats brainwashing. Kim Yes. I didnt grow up around entrepreneurs. I wasnt around business owners. I was around employees. Kathy When I first started my company 15 years ago, I went back to my class reunion, which is always an interesting thing to do, and I remember saying to them, Yeah, you know, I started a company about five years ago. They looked at me like, Youre so brave. And Im thinking, Ive had this company for five years now. Thats the longest I have ever worked anywhere.
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Robert See, without financial education you have to get a job. Whats tragic today with so many people losing their jobs is that theyre going back to school to get another job, but theyre now competing with their kids. Thats insanity. So, were not saying jobs are bad. Were just saying as entrepreneurs that our job is to create jobs. The government doesnt really create jobs. They need more entrepreneurs. Kim I didnt even know there was another option growing up. I thought all you could do was get a job. So again, its not right or wrong to be an employee, but Id like to know what my options are. Anita When you were in school, did they say, Go to school, get your diploma, and become an entrepreneur? No. I mean youll never hear that in the school system. Kim No, they said, Work your way up the ladder, get the bigger paycheck, get a better job, and higher pay. Anita But youre right. Get a job is the only option that youll hear in school as a rule. Robert And job stands for Just Over Broke, you know. Tom To me, the real issue with a job is that its the highest-risk profession you can have because you only have one client. When I started my business 15 years ago, it was after being fired from a job. What I recognized was that I had no control over my life because I had one client, my employer, whereas now I have thousands of clients. Now, if one client fires me, its not the end of the world. Now my risk has gone down considerably, almost to nothing. When you have a job, its just a high-risk play. Ken Well, the other thing is, youre in complete control. Thats the piece that I like. Robert Youre an entrepreneur because nobody would hire you! (Group laughter.) Ken But its nice. If youre going to lose some business, or you do lose some business, you can go out and do something. You can go out, generate business, and fill that gap. Robert Financial security is more important than job security. Es and Ss get punished for making mistakes, or they lose their job. Bs and Is get richer from their mistakes because they learn from their mistakes.
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Kim Im not going to hold that! Robert Ill give you an example. In the year 2000, one gold coin cost $300. This huge bag Im holding is $300 in U.S. quarters. Today, in 2010, that same gold coin costs thousands of dollars to buy. So the reason people have to work so hard to keep up is because the value of our dollars is going down. The insanity of getting another job, paying more taxes, and working harder when... How many dollars did the Fed print in 2009? Mike From August of 2008 through 2009, they created about 1.5 times more paper dollars than they printed in the previous 200 years. Robert So, thats why people are working harder, because their money is worth less. Mike And it isnt the coin that changed. People dont understand that it isnt the price going up. Its the value of the dollar falling. Its the currency thats changing. The can of Campbells soup in the grocery store is the same can with the same contents from back in 1950 when it cost 15 cents. Today its $1.95 or whatever it is. Whats changed is the dollars value, not the can of soup. Robert So thats why the rules have changed. In 1971 the U.S. dollar stopped being money and it... Mike It became a currency. It became debt. Robert It became an IOU from the federal government. And the thing is, they can print as much as they like. The more they print, the harder you have to work. It all takes place in your head. Take this glass here. In this case, the glass here is context. It holds the content, in this case, the water. Es and Ss have a different context than Bs and Is. Having a different context, Es and Ss attract the sacred cows like go to school, work hard, and live below your means. Bs and Is, having a different context entirely, attract a different type of content, a different type of information, and a different type of education. Money is created out of your head. If youre a true B and I, youre not concerned. Its because, just like the Fed, we can print our own money.
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Robert The point here is this: There are assets and liabilities. The way you increase your means is to acquire more assetsnot houses or carsbut assets. The reason so many people struggle financially is that they have no financial education. They may be a good doctor or lawyer or accountant or rock star, but if they dont know the difference between assets and liabilities and they keep buying liabilities instead of assets, they have to keep living below their means. If youre single or not, if youre on a fixed income, if youre an E and an S, your income is limited. There are four major expenses that keep Es and Ss poor. Number one is tax, and taxes are going to go up because the Fed is printing so much money all over the world. Two is debt. People leave college with tons of debt, use credit-card debt to make ends meet, and then use debt to buy their house because they think its an asset. Three is inflation. Inflation goes up because, as taxes go up and prices go up, then inflation goes up. And fourth is retirement. You must put something away for the day when you stop working. Those are the four main reasons Es and Ss, as a general rule, have to live below their means. But if you have financial education and live on the B-I side, you can increase your means by increasing cash-flowing assets. Andy I think a lot of people accept mediocrity, and in order to be able to grow in business, in order to make more money, you have to step out of that comfort zone and stop being mediocre. Robert Or hoping the government is going to save you. I think living below your means is one of the greatest spirit-killers there is. Theres a lot of people who like being poor. Im not making it right or wrong, but thats definitely not what I like to do. Kim and I definitely dont live below our means. Kim No, I definitely do not like living below my means. I did it when I was in college, and that was exciting times and all, but I get inspired when I get put in a position where I need to create something new. I want to be bigger than I am, not less than I am, and I think people are being taught to contract and be less than they are instead of being inspired to expand and be more than they are. Tom Thats the issue with the idea of a budget, right? A budget is all about cutting. Its all about slicing. Its all about being less than you are. Instead, you should make a strategy and look at projections into the future. Ask What can I do? as opposed to What cant I do? Thats the big distinction. Kathy A lot of it comes from fear, too. You know, I think people are afraid of their futures. Theyre not sure where the future is going to lead them, and they think, Ill live below my means. Ill save. I wont allow myself to have this small luxury, that small luxury. They of course fall off the wagon, and then they feel bad about it, and it creates guilt.
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Robert The worst thing is that they cut back on their expenses and they save money. Right, Mike? Thats the worst thing they could do. Mike Right. Theyre saving depreciating money. Anita It all goes back to the questions you ask. When you say, I cant afford it. I dont have the money for that, you put yourself in a box. A better question would be, How could I afford that? How can I get the money for that? That type of question expands your mind. Trina You know, in my community where I grew up, living below your means was pretty much a step up. Im just being honest. We didnt have any means, and we didnt live and didnt know how to live. It was basically survival. And some of the ways we created those means were, of course by legal definition, illegal. That was the way we survived, and that was the way we got by. Living below your means is completely opposite to abundant living, which is what I believe in my faith, abundant living. The opposite of that, to me, is not the way that God intended for us to live. Robert Thats why I think its absolutely criminal that our school system does not teach us much about money. And what they do teach us is to put your money in the bank which means you lose more money, and then talk to a financial planner wholl put you into mutual funds. That is not financial education. That is educating people to give more money to the rich. Kim That will also cause you to have to live below your means. Thats what theyre training you to do. Create a budget. Mike And while youre at it, youre going to pay more and more in taxes because you get no tax benefit for living below your means. Robert And thats a problem. You say to a child, Go to school and get a job. Become a doctor or a lawyer. That child will pay more than his or her fair share of taxes and then will have to live below his or her means. Marco If youre playing defense instead of offense, youre just hiding and trying to play it safe, saving money, and you never manifest. You cannot be who youre supposed to be. Kim I say its time to get financially educated and take care of yourself.
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Mike The Weimar Republic. Kim What about Zimbabwe? Mike Zimbabwe, yes. They are the most recent, having printed a $100 trillion note. This is the largest note ever printed. Robert And this was printed in 2000? Mike Yes. But when Zimbabwe was created as a country, when it went from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, the Zimbabwean dollar was on parity with the U.S. dollar. One U.S. dollar was the same as the Zimbabwe dollar. But it doesnt buy anything today. It doesnt buy a cup of coffee. Robert Right. See, the Greeks did the same thing when they started clipping coins. The Romans tried it, the English tried it, the Germans tried it, the Chinese tried it, and now the U.S. is trying it. Mike Yep. Robert And so thats why saving money is probably the biggest mistake you could make right now because today money is no longer money. Its now debt. All currencies throughout the world are in trouble, the same way the Zimbabwe dollar is in trouble. Thats the problem with saving money. After 1971, it was no longer money. Mike And more than 70 percent of all the currency on the planet is U.S. dollars. Robert If the U.S. dollar goes, the world goes with it. Mike Im preparing by getting fully diversified. I buy both gold and silver!
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Rodney Your home is shelter. Its a place to raise a family, but its not an asset that youre going to make money on. Its not a financial asset. Robert Now, you might make money in an up-trending market, but today the markets trending down. Thats why in 1997, what I said in Rich Dad Poor Dad, that your house is not an asset, was heresy because the market was up-trending. Now people are saying, Oh my God, I shouldve listened to him. Im not saying dont buy a house. Im saying just dont be financially ignorant and call your house an asset if its taking money out of your pocket. Kim and I own two houses, one in Arizona and one beautiful beach house in Hawaii, and theyre our biggest liabilities. Kim People did think, especially in the high times when the markets were high, that their house was an asset. Even if they had their mortgage paid off, people were borrowing against their house and putting it into the stock market or wherever they were putting it. So, not only were they getting crazy mortgages, but they were also taking money out against their house in second and third mortgages. Tom And they were doing it for things like vacations, boats, cars, and other things. And the reality is that the reason they were doing that is because they got to deduct the interest off their taxes and so they thought, Well, this is okay because I get a deduction. Just because you get a deduction doesnt make it a good thing to do. Rodney One of the big mistakes people make is over-improving their house. They put in a $50,000 swimming pool, and it brings them $20,000 worth of value. The way I look at it is that you just bought a $30,000 babysitter. Garrett Fifty percent of the mortgages in Reno are under water, meaning that the mortgage is greater than the value of the property. And this affects the whole community because people arent able to sell their homes and move to a place where they can get a better job. The neighbors arent going to sell their houses because values are so far down, and so this has affected entire communities. Weve heard people say that your home is an asset. Well, were talking here about financial education, and this is one of the biggest financial lessons that our country has had to learn in a very hard way. Your home is not an asset. Ken This has happened before and what will happen is new laws will come in, new credit will be loosened again years from now, prices will come up again, and people will do it again. Robert Its about a 20-year cycle, as in anything. The point here is that this is the best time to buy real estate. If you are a first-time home-buyer, this is your best time. Just dont call it an asset. This is the best time to get back in the market, and thats why it takes financial education. The reason Im in real estate is for one reasondebtbecause one of the easiest assets to get debt on is real estate. But if youre going to use debt, youve got to be highly financially intelligent. Otherwise, if youre not intelligent, just keep calling your house an asset.
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Ken Yes, we have a lot of debt. Robert Our real estate that we own is all basically financed with our tenants, so thats what I consider to be good debt. So when we get real estate, we get proper leverage, and its paid by all the residents who live in all of our projects. Tom And its not just real estate. Business is the same way, and we even have good debt in business as well. Thats how we grow. And its the cash flow from the business thats able to pay the debt, and the debt creates more cash flow. Robert Many people are worried today or think investing is risky because they invest for capital gains. Theyre hoping the stock price goes back up. Theyre hoping their home value goes back up. A smart investor doesnt really care. A smart investor wants both capital gains and cash flow. People say that I like real estate. But I dont really like real estate. I just love debt because its so easy to get a loan on real estate, right? Ken I like the analogy that you use sometimes. You say that if you put $1 million of cash into a mutual fund, you get whatever you get paid. But if you put $1 million as a down payment on real estate, you actually buy a $5 million project. Robert Right. Ken So youre actually getting a $5 million asset with $1 million, versus $1 million of mutual funds with $1 million. And by using the banks leverage, the value youre creating on that real estate is on the $5 million, not the $1 million. Tom And the tax benefits that you get on the real estate isnt on the $1 million either. Its on the $5 million. So you not only increase leverage on your cash flow and on growth in your asset, but you also increase leverage on your taxes. Ken Heres what were doing. We get these loans, and the tenants are paying them off. Thats the point. Robert And theyre paying it off with after-tax dollars. Ken Theyre moving into our places, paying rent, and were taking that rent and paying our mortgages down to zero.
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Kim Wait a minute! Ken is talking about these million-dollar deals. Let me tell you how I started. Im somebody that knew absolutely nothing about money or financing or investing, and I began investing with a little two-bedroom, one-bath house, and this was back in 1989. The house cost me $45,000. I had to put down $5,000, which I didnt have, and I had a mortgageor good debtof $40,000. The reason it was good debt is because every month I would collect the rent and pay the expenses, including my mortgage payment. At the end of the month I had a positive cash flow of $25. Now it wasnt a lot, but it was a start, and from there I learned. I did my next investment and my next investment. So it was good debt because that debt put money in my pocket every single month. If only people understood that there is such a thing as good debt. I dont know how many people I talk to who think debt is the dirtiest word in the world. Thats the four-letter word. Robert Because theyre not educated. Thats why. Kim No. And people are raised, and I was raised, to get out of debt. Robert Go to a bank and the banker will sell you mutual funds. But ask them if they will loan you money to buy those mutual funds, and the answer is no. But if we go in and say we want to buy real estate, theyll ask us how much we want. Ken Thats because theres collateral. Robert Yes! Ken They actually have something physical. Thats it. Robert Theyll sell you mutual funds, but they wont lend you money on mutual funds. That should tell you something. And the other part about it is, that borrowed money for real estateis that after-tax, pre-tax, or no tax? Tom Its no tax. Anytime youre borrowing money, theres no tax on that money. You can use that cash tax-free. Robert So if somebody wants to save a million dollars versus borrow a million dollars, itll probably take them $2 million to save the million because taxes will take 50 percent of it. Tom Right.
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Robert But I just go straight into a bank, and I can borrow a million dollars tax-free. Its great money. I love my banker. Im not saying bankers are bad. Theyre fabulous because they give us the money. All they want is their interest. We keep all the appreciation, depreciation, and amortization. We keep all of it. Theyre the best partners of all. So Im not anti-bank, and Im not anti-debt. Im anti-lack of financial education because theres good debt, and theres bad debt. Kim Your rich dad was a tough mentor. But you know, I think some of the greatest mentors are tough because a really great mentor will push you to go beyond where you think you can go. Some of my best mentors, thats what theyve done for me. Robert Yes. And I didnt always listen to my rich dad. I still remember when I did a real estate course, and I went running out and found this condo for $64,000 that didnt cash flow. I went to see my rich dad, and I said, But its going to go up in value, in other words, capital gains. He said, Never buy anything that goes up. It must cash flow. And I said, No, no, no. Its going to go up. And we argued and argued and argued. He finally said to me, If you start investing for capital gains, someday you will lose big time. So I let that condo go, and I didnt pay $64,000. Today its probably worth $300,000, but I learned a lesson from my coach, my rich dad. If I had gotten into the habit of buying for capital gains due to the price of stocks going up or real estate going up, I might have been wiped out in this crisis. So thats why a coach and a mentor keep you onto your plan. Kim And help you create and develop very good financial habits. Robert Right. Kim Because if you have poor financial habits in your personal life, youre going to take those into your investment life. One of the most important things a coach will do is help you develop great financial habits. Robert Because when markets go up, greed sets in. And greed makes people stupid.
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Sacred Cow #8: Invest for the Long Term in a Well-Diversified Portfolio
Our last sacred cow is invest for the long term in a well-diversified portfolio of stock, bonds, and mutual funds. After 1974, the rules of retirement changed and suddenly forced Es and Ss into the I quadrant with no financial education as they had to put their money into these retirement plans. A whole new industry was born called financial planners. Today it takes 30 days to become a financial planner. It still takes a year and a half to become a massage therapist.
Robert Andy, what do you think of mutual funds? Andy I think theyre a great way to make money... if you sell them to other people. Honestly, I think theyre one of the worst places a person can put money. They make other people rich with hidden fees and expense ratios. And you talk about the law of compound interest. Well, theres the law of compound expenses too. Robert Okay, so let me ask you this: If I say to invest for the long term, like 30 or 40 years, what do you think about that and paper assets? Andy Youve lost control that quick. Liquidity is what paper assets are aboutyour ability to sell and buy without negotiation problems. Think of all the companies people have held for the long term: Enron, Worldcom, General Motors, United Airlines... you can just go on and on. But the moment you decide to hold stocks, what control do you have? Robert None. Andy In real estate, you can force the appreciationpaint it, carpet, etc. You cant do that with paper assets. Your only control is to sell. If you hold it forever, youre rolling the dice and saying, I hope it works out. Robert Right. There are a lot of people, like financial advisers, who say that stocks are the best way to go and not to get into real estate. Stocks are good for people who are not business people. You see, as entrepreneurs and real estate people, were personally responsible for income, expenses, assets, and liabilities. But as a stock investor, even in Microsoft, I have no control over income, expense, assets, and liabilities. Andy All you can do is sell or hedge. Thats all you can do.
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Tom Thats right. And what makes it worse is that you take those paper assets that you dont have control over because you invest long-term and then put them into a 401(k). Then you have even less control because, once theyre in that 401(k), you cant take them out. Robert Youre penalized for early withdrawal. Tom Youre penalized for pulling them out. And then on top of that, you dont even get the one tax benefit you get with paper assetscapital gains. By putting them into a 401(k), youve lost that benefit. Robert On top of that, when you pull them out, there are three types of taxes: ordinary earned income, portfolio income, and capital gains or passive income. And savings and mutual funds, what are they taxed at? Tom When you pull out earnings, when its coming through savings or a 401(k), theyre all taxed at the highest ordinary earned income rate. Robert Its the worst thing you could possibly do if you plan on being rich. But if you plan to be poor, its a pretty good plan. Andy Robert, Ive seen you take heat in the press when you say theyre risky. Ill tell you where I think the risk is. When you sit down and they say, Were going to diversify you so that, if one company goes down, youve got all these other companies to buoy you up. Thats fine for non-systemic-type things, but not a system-wide problem. It does not protect us if the system breaks down. And I think its Robert Thats not diversification. Andy Right. Its more fragile now than I think it ever has been before. And these people saying, Im well diversified, theyre not well diversified. Robert, youre diversified across asset classes, not just bunches of stocks. Robert So the problem with diversification in just one asset class like paper assets is that it doesnt protect you from a crash. Andy Right. Robert Warren Buffet, the worlds greatest investor, reportedly says that diversification is protection from ignorance.
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Andy Right. Robert But its ignorance from both the person selling you the plan as well as you who invest in the plan. But here is the biggest thing that really bugs me. When Kenny and I buy real estate, we always buy insurance, dont we? Ken Yes. Robert And then when we drive a car, we have insurance, right? Ken Right. Robert Is there insurance for mutual funds? Andy Well, not for the average person. Robert Is there insurance on your 401(k) that what you put in will be there when you retire? Andy And which is more likely to burn down in the next five years, your home or your 401(k)? Robert And Ill say it again. We all drive cars with insurance, hopefully. We all have houses with insurance. When we buy real estate, we have insurance. Our companies have insurance. But the 401(k), all these retirement plans, theres no insurance on them. So if it crashes, you lose everything and the mutual fund companies walk away with the money. Andy And thats a hard level of education because most people dont know how to hedge that. Robert Nope. Andy They dont know how. I mean its possible, but if youre the average person, you dont know. Robert Thats what we teach in our advanced courses.
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Andy If you poll the average person and ask the differencethis is a very basic questionbetween a defined-benefit pension plan and a defined-contribution plan, most people do not know that difference. That is not a minor thing. That is a major deal.
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Final Thoughts
Robert In closing, Id like to thank you for reading and paying attention to this. Id also like to thank my friends who helped impart their wisdom because, as youve heard so many times, one of your greatest assetsor liabilitiesis the people you hang around with. But theres one more thing about friends. I just want to thank you guys for being givers. Tom What I would leave you with is to take control of your life. Its not too late. And in fact, if youre in a difficult situation, nows a better time than ever to make a change. And you can make that change. Weve all made this change. Every one of us has been there. Weve all been in the dumps, and weve all hit at the top. We know that we can do it, and we know that you can do it. So take control. Kathy You cant wait until you have 100 percent confidence because youll never have 100 percent confidence. Take the leap. Kim Its not until you hit a point where things become so uncomfortable or so painful that you are willing to accept that things arent working right, the way that you think theyre supposed to work. And so for many people, when they get into a financial crisis, thats their wake-up call, and thats where the change starts. Robert Help your children today. Take control of their financial education because they may not receive it in school, but there are experts out there. Kim And I want to say specifically to the women, this is your time. Be strong. Get that financial education. As we said, knowledge is the new money, and for women I think this is really an opportunity for you to grow and get stronger. Take that next step. Ken And the objective is, like Robert says, to turn your mind into an asset instead of a liability. It takes more than one book. It takes more than watching one video. Its a whole process. I mean theres no professional, theres no athlete, no expert in any area that has become a professional at something in one week or with one book or with one DVD or one workshop. Kim To further your financial education, The Rich Dad Company has advanced educational and mentorship programs **LINK** These programs are in the business entrepreneurial sector of real estate and paper assets. We also have Rich Dad coaching programs **LINK** in business, real estate, and paper. These programs are developed to get you from where you are today, to where you want to be.
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It is imperative that you get role models in the form of coaches and trainers every step of the way. They will keep you on track. Youve got to go through a minefield of failures to get over onto the side of success where you want to be. Robert Educations a process. For example, I entered Navy Flight School in Pensacola, Florida. Two years later, I popped out as a Marine helicopter-gunship pilot on my way to Vietnam. That educational process transitioned me from a guy who couldnt fly, to somebody who became one of the best pilots in the world. The same thing happens with education. When you go to school, the question is, What do you come out as? When you go through the process of education, do you come out an employee? Do you come out as a person who needs a paycheck? Do you come out as a person always looking for a job? A person working hard and paying excessive taxes? Most people go to school and they pop out as Es and Ss. To come out as a B and I, you need financial education because financial education is also a process. Finally, one of the ways we learn best is by repetition. For example, I didnt learn to fly by flying once. I kept flying and flying and got better and better. One of the reasons we created this eBook is so you can read it again and again. Wait a week, read it again, and youll absorb more and see new things. Wait another week, read it again, and more and more will make sense. Thats a great way to use this eBook, and thats why Im glad and I thank all of my friends for coming together to share their knowledge. As you can see, financial intelligence isnt from one source. Its from multiple sources, and thats why friends are so important. Ill end with some great words about quitting from a great man, one of the greatest leaders of allWinston Churchill. In the darkest hour of England, he said, Never, never, never, never give up.
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