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November 27, 2012
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Ali Sebt
PRESIDENT AND CEO OF RENESAS ELECTRONICS AMERICA
Keynote Address from Renesas DevCon 2012
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DevCon is an bi-annual conference sponsored by Renesas Electronics America. The event was held in Anaheim, California. The Renesas DevCon provides an environment for valuable technical information exchange and access to Renesas technology experts and partners from around the world. The event features hundreds of hours of lectures, workshops, panels and keynote addresses. This years event was dedicated to discussing how global tech leaders can enable the smart society of the future. Ali Sebt, President and CEO of Renesas Electronics America, delivered this years DevCon keynote address. He detailed the technologies that Renesas provides to enable the smart society, providing countless opportunities for future generations. The following is an excerpt from the keynote address.
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Good morning, my name is Ali Sebt, President and CEO of Renesas in the Americas. When we were putting this video together, the thought that came to mind was that the sensationalism that exists in the news todaywars, famine, austerity measuresand all of the challenges that we as adults face, are very stressful. And oftentimes, I found myself very worried for my childrens futureI have a 14-year-old son and a 12-year old daughterand I found myself very worried for their future. However, I realized that when I talked to my children, they had a very different perspective about their future. They see a future filled with possibilities. Sometimes, they say they want to be a doctor or a football player or a ballerina and Im sure all of you who have children have experienced this; from time to time, they change what they want to be in the future. That says that they see a world and a future full of possibilities.
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While Renesas is here today to share with you the techniques and the latest products we have to offer for embedded applications. The underlying unity and connection we have is joint responsibility we have for our children and the next generation. If we go back to the early 1800s, the worlds population stood at 1 billion. Fast forward a hundred years and the worlds population doubled to 2 billion. Fast forward to today, and the worlds population stands at 7 billion. We also know at the same time, throughout the past 100 years or so, that extracting fossil fuels has also become a challengeour resources are becoming more scarce. At the same time, theres a third dimension, which is the fact that all of us are utilizing more electricity and more power because all of us have more gadgets and electronics surrounding our lives. So, the purpose of this presentation is to talk about how we, as solution providers, and you, as embedded designers, can find a solution to these diametrically opposed forces; more people, more inhabitants, more users, less energy and more energy requirements per individuals. This Smart Societyor the challenges that face the Smart Societycan be addressed by four areas: lowpower electronics using low-leakage semiconductors; taking advantage of the proliferation of sensors sensors are becoming ubiquitous around us; taking advantage of the signal chainwhat Renesas provides (analog, microcontrollers and power stage)and finally; security.
Lets begin with low-power semiconductors. If we go back to the mainframe era, the focus of computing was really executing faster transactions. As we fast forward to the PC era, the focus was faster graphics and faster execution of instructions with limited focus to power consumption. Of course, in the last decade, as the networking and Internet grew around us, the focus was how we push more video and packets down the pipe. Throughout these decades, there has been little regard to how we address power consumptionits all been about performance. Renesas, on the other hand, for the past three or four decades, has been focusing on lowleakage transistor technology. Our microcontrollers are
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developed with the very intent focus of developing lowpower consuming technologies. Over the past few decades, in general, embedded systems have focused on performance, and now theres an imbalance between performance and power consumption. At the onset of this decade, we have seen a shift in this balancewe now have commercial-electric vehicles on the road, we have computer devices that truly do consume low-power. We have seen a shift in the mentality of embedded designers toward focusing on low-power consumption appliances. I will touch on one of our microcontrollersthe RL78which addresses the 8- and 16-bit space. We mention true low-power because I know you as engineers are always skeptical with specmanship. We know that some suppliers finetune their MCU architecture so that it works well in one mode and not necessarily in other modes. Often times, you have a challenge duplicating the results in your end system. Renesas provides a true low-power microcontroller in this area and Ill show you some of the numbers. In Run mode, the RL78 consumes 144 micro-amps per MHz. The closest competitor is Company S at 150. Remember, I said earlier that competitors fine-tune their
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microcontrollers to be low-power in one mode. Now as we go to the next mode, which is the Halt mode, youll see that the RL78 consumes less than half of one microamp. But the previous competitor, which was Company S that was the closest, is now off the charts. Lets go to the Stop mode. In this mode, and in Smart Society applications, this is one of the mode that your MCUs will most likely be in. You see that the RL78 is really showing off its low-leakage transistor capability. Now in this case, youll see that Company T, which was closest to us in the Halt mode, is now off the charts. We have also added a very special mode, called the Snooze mode, which is unique to Renesas. The Snooze mode allows, for example, the ADC to wake up and do some measurement and, if necessary, turn on the microcontroller to go into the operation Run mode. You can see how much power savings youll have if you are running system at 8 or 32 MHz. Incredible savings using the Snooze mode.
Let me now talk about sensors. As I mentioned, sensors are around us and are becoming ubiquitous. In order for the Smart Society to be effective, we have to take advantage of our analog, real-world environment. Lets take, for example, irrigation. Often times, we drive by parks, golf courses, and lawns where we see that the driveway is wet because water seeps through the soil at different rates. Soil is made up of different compositions; theres clay, sand and three other types. This is why you see dry spots and wet spots. Imagine if we embed moisture sensors in the ground that will be able to communicate back to the control panel if an area of the lawn has had enough water. We know that water is also very precious, so we not only want to conserve the energy that delivers water, but water itself. Of course, as embedded applications are connected to the Internet, you will know if there is rain in the forecast that day and will prevent the irrigation from watering that lawn altogether.
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At the onset of this decade, we have seen a shift in this balancewe have now commercial-electric vehicles on the road, we have computer devices that truly do consume low-power.
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Lets take this sensor concept to the next stage. We know that in the automotive arena, more and more companies are deploying frontal-view cameras for safety. We also know that they are deploying frontal view radar for safety. However, none of these sensors alone, is adequate to provide enough intelligence for the onboard computer to make a smart decision for safety purposes. So the next stage in utilizing sensors is sensor-fusion, where you need to have enough performance with your microcontroller to take in these different types of sensor data, fuse them and make an intelligent decision. Lets look at conference rooms and building environments. We see the deployment of temperature sensors, humidity sensors and passive infra-red sensors. Detectors, using our analog microcontroller and power semiconductors, are being deployed in local areas to take advantage of this raw-data, fuse that data, and make an intelligent decisions based on that environment. Heres an example: these detectors that take localized sensor information and provide intelligent information back to the central unit can aide an emergency response team so they will not have to go to every floor and area in a burning building so that they can focus on saving lives. Youve seen sensors, sensor fusion and detectors, so lets talk about how the detectors are builtwhich is where the signal chain comes in. All of these sensors provide analog information. This analog information first has to be conditioned and amplified so that the microcontroller can receive it in the right format. Then, the microcontroller will fuse this information and make an intelligent decision. But remember, you are no longer in an on/off worldyou are in a world of multiple analog and multiple forms of information, so you need a highly powerful and low-power consuming microcontroller that can mathematically and algorithmically compute this information and make the right decision. And, of course, coming out of the microcontroller is the power stage, which will invoke a decision back into the real world. Renesas has introduced a new technology called Smart Analog. Its a singular device that has a programmable and re-configurable analog front-end, which is basically made up of op-amps mated with the true low-power RL78 MCU into one package. So, using a web-based, GUI IDE, you can design, test and validate your system in one day without having to build a physical system and tune the analog system all day long. Of course, your component count will be reduced almost 10 to 1. When you think about it, you no longer need to have your
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resistors, diodes and capacitors on the board, because its all going to be programmable and re-configurable in this one chip. Lets talk about security. With the Internet of things, which is a part of this Smart Society, machines are going to be connected to everything in the network. With a machine-to-machine connection, its very important to secure your information and secure the credentials of who will have access to your machines. When we talk about security, we are really talking about authentication. Typically, in machine applications, there are three levels of authentication. First, you have to authenticate the user. Second, you have to authenticate the machine. And third, you have to authenticate the services. So, in this example, if a friend comes to your house and wants to charge their electric vehicle at your house, you obviously dont want to pay for that. The utility company will authenticate your friend, in this case, so they know who to bill. They will authenticate the electrical vehicle so they know what kind of charging is required for this vehicle. And, of course, they will authenticate the services so they know how to bill, where to bill and so on. Our DNA and our R&D, as we develop these products and solutions for our smart society, are focused on these fundamental areas: how do we enable you to generate, store, control and ultimately save energy. All of our products and solutions are designed and developed with these areas in mind.
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Vice President of Quanta Technologies Vice President, Asset Management - Quanta Technology
Nicholas Abi-Samra
Present day Distribution Automation (DA) goes beyond reducing manual procedures. DA makes distribution systems more controllable and flexible based on accurate data for decision-making applications. This is accomplished through a set of intelligent sensors, processors and fast communications to remotely monitor and coordinate distribution assets. DA is considered a foundation to build upon in developing the Smart Grid as it transforms the distribution network towards more automation.
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Distribution Automation History and Initial Concepts
Over 30-40% of the total investments in the electrical sector go to distribution systems, yet, they have not received the technological impact in the same manner as the generation and transmission systems. Up until recently, most of the distribution networks have worked with minimum monitoring systems, mainly with local and manual control of capacitors, sectionalizing switches and voltage regulators and, without adequate computation support for the systems operators. This is now changing, with the trend increasingly moving to automate distribution systems to improve their reliability, efficiency and service quality. Over the years, Distribution Automation took many shapes, form local automation with no communication requirements, to more advanced, two-way communication, as shown in Table 1. The concept of automation in distribution systems has been around for many decades, but had a ripple in in the 1970s, albeit at a sporadic pace, for the improvement of distribution system operating performance. Early automation applications included capacitor switching, voltage regulation and limited feeder reconfiguration. From the 1990s distribution networks started to come under pressure to improve the quality and reliability of the delivered power. Efforts to make the power distribution systems smarter started to get hold and traditional distribution automation (DA) was born.
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Sectionalizers: Automated fault restoration via pre-programmed sequencing. Voltage regulators: Automated voltage regulation for long feeders Remote control of capacitors and feeder reclosers Messages from short circuit indicators control center for fast fault location Distribution line monitoring Power Quality (Harmonic content) measurements Fault detection and restoration Automatic reconfiguration of feeders Voltage regulation and reactive power control for: Reduction of line voltage during peak load conditions, or for energy conservation Reduction of system losses Buck/boost bus voltages in case of abnormal situations, such as threat of voltage collapse, back-feeding, etc. Distribution underground network grid monitoring and control Supporting Distributed Energy Resources (DER) and microgrids Complementing AMI Interacting with transmission system
During those years, the use of reclosers and automatic switches to reduce outage times became more widespread. In addition, due to deregulation, distribution systems also came under cost pressure for optimization of operation and maintenance practices. In the 2000s, the above pressures increased along with new ones such as the ever increasing occurrences of distributed generation in many forms in MV and LV networks. These requirements are pushing further the need for monitoring, automation, control and protection of distribution systems. DA applications have been related with the deployment of SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) technology in the distribution circuits and substations.
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Some like to divide the terminology used for DA and ADA, in the sense that the former is concerned with automated control of basic distribution circuit switching functions, while the latter, ADA, is concerned with complete automation of all the controllable equipment and functions in the distribution system. In this document, the term DA is chosen to automation applied to the distribution system, with regard to the above distinction. The number of DA projects at the different utilities is
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increasing, with different approaches. Many of these projects encompass a large area of a distribution system. It is unlikely that any one approach of DA will be the sole preferred technique for utilities. There are too many differences between various utilities -- and even within an individual utility -- to justify a universal solution.
Customer Benefits
Financial Benefits
I. THEN AND NOW: THE DISTRIBUTION POWER SYSTEM, TWO DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS
The increasing penetration of residential and municipal solar generation, and the distributed generation in general, impose challenges on the existing distribution infrastructure and the system operator. New flow patterns may require changes to the protection and control strategies, enhanced distribution automation and microgrid capabilities, capabilities, voltage and VAR management, and over all enforcement of distribution grid infrastructure. The changes are best depicted in the Figures 1 and 2.
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2. Tie switches/breakers (normally opened switches). By changing the status of the sectionalizing and tie switches, the configuration of distribution system is varied and loads are transferred among the feeders while the radial configuration format of electrical supply is preserved and all load points are not interrupted. Feeder reconfiguration entails the modification of the topology of an electrical system by closing or opening tie and sectionalizing switches, in order to obtain a better performance of the system. It has been used to improve voltage regulation balance, feeder loading, as well as reducing system losses. Examples of objectives of feeder reconfiguration include: real power loss reduction, equipment (e.g., transformer and feeder) load balancing, phase balancing, system restoration, bus voltage profile improvement, increasing reliability and power quality improvement.
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Feeder reconfiguration may be used to avoid over loading of critical transformers (and/or feeders) resulting from load variations. In order to keep the system reliable, a part of the load from the
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overloaded feeder must be transferred to an adjacent transformer feeder that is relatively lightly loaded. Similarly main transformer overloading problem can be addressed by identifying the appropriate feeder causing the overload and transferring a part of load from that feeder load to an adjacent transformer which is lightly loaded. This redistribution of load among feeders and transformers makes the system more balanced and the risk of overloading is reduced thereby increasing the reliability of a system. The network can be reconfigured to balance load in feeders and/or to avoid the overloading of critical transformers and feeders resulting from load variations. This redistribution of load among feeders and transformers makes the system more balanced and the risk of overloading is reduced thereby increasing the reliability of a system. One method this could be accomplished is through monitoring certain electrical parameters (current, voltage etc.) in the system and initiating breaker trips based on hitting threshold values. Fuzzy logic and the combinatorial optimization-based methods have also been used.
Optimization Techniques
Heuristic techniques have been proposed to reach a near optimal solution for feeder reconfiguration in a short period. Other approaches have been in which the optimal configuration was achieved by opening the branches with lowest current in the optimal load flow solutions for the configuration with all switches closed.
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IV. VOLTAGE AND REACTIVE POWER (VAR) CONTROL AND OPTIMIZATION
As energy demands increase, and power-hungry new technologies such as electric vehicles proliferate, utilities will need to find ways to meet peak-load requirements. Volt-VAR optimization, which reduces losses from transmission and distribution, can free up much needed capacity to help meet future demand. For that, the industry has progressed from fixed capacitor banks to one way controlled devices, and now capacitor banks managed by two-way communications and fully intelligent controls that operate based on existing conditions and handle reactive-power loads throughout the distribution system. Ideally, information should be collected form all voltage and VAR control devices and acted upon to obtain optimal consistency with optimized control objectives. This approach is commonly referred to as integrated VVO. VVO is an advanced application that runs periodically or in response to operator demand and uses two-way communication infrastructure. VVO makes it possible to optimize the energy delivery efficiency on distribution systems using real-time information without causing voltage/current violations. VVO should work in various system design and operating conditions.
Technical Challenges
The control variables available to VVO are the control settings for switchable capacitors and tap changers of voltage regulating transformers. VVO is basically an optimization problem due to the following challenges:
Nonlinear objective High dimension nonlinear constraints Large search space and control variables
However, improving the voltage profile (e.g., with capacitors) can result in an increase in load that may exceed the loss reduction. Some conventional loads do not accurately model changes to the system resulting from changes in the voltage profile.
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Real-time VVO
New generation of automation control, more robust bidirectional communication, and a new range of linesensing solutions to enable centralized and distributed control schemes hold a lot of promise for real-time voltVAR control for reducing line losses and peak-demand shaving. By aggregating and analyzing volt and reactive power real-time data from across the distribution grid operators can monitor the reliability of the system as load-profile shifts occur (thus making long-established power-flow models obsolete). Volt-VAR optimization programs can also provide another opportunity to boost returns from installed assets, such as advanced meters. Closed-loop control schemes, based on real-time data collection, can enable utilities to dynamically manage power quality. Utilities can prevent harmful voltage excursions that inevitably damage and/or reduce the useful life of equipment. The latest technology enhancements offered through advanced volt-VAR controls determine whether devices are turned off or on by taking real-time measurements and analyzing the associated VAR flows. This allows utilities to optimize the system across all feeders served by a substation, eliminating a situation in which one feeder has a leading power factor and another has a lagging power factor but in which the substation bus has met the target power factor. Innovations in volt-VAR management technology are enabling the industry to move closer to maintaining a consistent power factor across all operating conditions
VVO Requirements
For VVO to operate properly, it is necessary to assure that the optimal quantity, sizing and placement of capacitors and regulators across individual feeders. Intelligent controls and communications, as well as central analytical software are then added to into the system.
Nicholas Abi-Samra has been actively involved in IEEE for more than 35 years. As Vice President of Asset Management at Quanta Technology, he and his team help utilities better manage and modernize their assets at lower total lifecycle cost. He was both General Chair and overall Technical Program Coordinator for the 2012 IEEE Power & Energy Society General Meeting.
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In this review, I will be looking at this Rigol DSA-815 Spectrum Analyzer, it covers a frequency of 9 khz to 1.5 ghz. One of the first things youll notice when you take it out of the box, is that its relatively small, especially for a spectrum analyzer. Yet despite its small size it actually has some heft to it. It gives you a very good feeling about the build quality.
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Frequency Range DANL*1 Phase Noise Total Amplitude Accuracy*2 Minimum RBW 9kHz - 1.5 GHz -135dBm, typical -80dBc/Hz @10kHz o set, typical <1.5dB 100Hz
Free Run, Video, External 5V TTL Level Width X Height X Depth = 14.2 in. X 7.0 in. X 5.0 in. (361.6 mm X 178.8 mm X 128 mm) 9.4 lbs. (4.25 kg) USB host & device, LAN, GPIB (optional), 10 MHZ REF In, 10 MHz REF Out, External Trigger In
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Here are some of the features and specs: - 9 kHz to 1.5 GHz Frequency Range - Typical -135 dBm Displayed Average Noise Level (DANL) -80 dBc/Hz @10 kHz offset Phase Noise - Total Amplitude Uncertainty <1.5 dB - 100 Hz Minimum Resolution Bandwidth (RBW)
One of the things that I noticed when I pulled it out of the box and got it powered on, was the menu structure and the front panel buttons are very similar to those of an Agilent analyzer. Ive used Agilent Spectrum Analyzers a lot in the past, and I was able to pull this out of the box, power it up, and get right to work. I didnt need to go through the documentation, dig through it to find different settings, or different modes that I could put the analyzer in; it was all very familiar to me. On the left youll see some status indicators, and those will tell you what kind of detector youre using, what mode your traces are in, and other settings. To illustrate just how easy it is to get right to work with this analyzer, I have a 950 mhz signal input into the analyzer (Figure 1). Since I want to measure it the first thing Id do is put the marker on it by choosing the peak button, and the second thing I want to do is center my analyzer on it. To do this put the marker on it and hit marker to center frequency. Now I am going to zoom in on that signal, Im going to dial this band down. Since I know its a pretty
narrow signal I can keep dialing down like this, or go right down here and say I want to go down to 10 mhz. And theres my signal (Figure 2). Now, if I want to go ahead and I only have one peak here, but if I want to I can say I want to go to peak, and I want to turn on my peak table. You can see that its detecting any additional peaks that show up, and its updating frequency and amplitude in real time. This unit also has a tracking generator built in. If youve never used a tracking generator before theyre very handy for determining correction factors. This analyzer can correct data for you in real time. If you have a correction factor file you can load it in, and it will adjust the amplitude based on frequency, depending on that correction factor. Im going to go ahead and switch over to a different circuit, a filter circuit, just to show you the utility of a tracking generator. Now I have the analyzer hooked up to a filter circuit. The output of the tracking generator is going into the input of the filter, and the output of the filter is coming back into the spectrum analyzer. What youll see with the tracking generator is that it sweeps the same frequency output as its reading on the input of the analyzer, so it makes it very easy to determine gain or loss through a filter or an amplifier, or even just through a long run of cable where you need to know what the loss is. Im going to go ahead and hit the tracking generator button, and youll see that the green light lights up. So
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even if you go over to another menu youll know that its on, and here you see the pass band of my filter (Figure 3). If I then go in and want to determine what that pass band actually is I can turn on some markers, and I can set this marker over here, lets say right about here lets say thats the pass band. It might not be the exact 3db point, but itll be close. Lets add another marker, and lets put that marker over here at about the same amplitude, and well say that thats about our pass band. And if I want to say, okay what is my actual marker, without actually switching between them, then I can come down here and I can turn on my marker table, and youll see that its about 925.5 mhz to 967.5 mhz, and youll see those amplitudes updating in real time. If I want to let the analyzer settle, so that I can account for any noise (or anything else that is being generated) to get a good readout, I can come in here and I can change my trace from clear right to max hold, and that will retain the greatest value at each frequency point as the analyzer sweeps. If I clear that menu off I can see that its starting to settle in, and it looks like I did an ok job picking those points. But maybe I want to know if I really got a 3db point, so I can add another marker, which Im going to send to the peak, so that ones coming in at negative 23.63 db. Im actually setting at about 5 db down, I could go in and dial in those markers if I needed to, but I think this demonstrates the point. Visit www.eeweb.com
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Here are a couple other images of the spectrum analyzer:
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Of course, one of the things you have to consider when youre buying an analyzer is the price. I think the Rigol DSA-815 will be hard to beat in that category. The base price is $1,295, and if you need the tracking generator thats a $1,495 starting price for the entire unit, so its a $200 add-on. I think if you evaluate the DSA-815 against its competitors, as long as the DSA-815 meets your needs from a frequency range and noise level perspective, it would be pretty hard to beat on value. I know a lot of the larger manufacturers dont even compete in that price range. When I saw it and I saw the price, I didnt know what to expect when I pulled it out of the box. But Ive been very impressed and I think its a wonderful value I think if you get to play with one yourself youll be very pleased.
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