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MODERN-A
DISCUSSION
ON THE
PSYCHOLOGY
AND
PHILOSOPHY
FOR THE NEW
LEARNERS
Ancient: Do you know why the human civilization is in danger?
Modern: That’s wrong statement. We are not in any danger in this modern
age.
Modern: Yaw, the confidence is all that we’ve, our science and technology
has advanced to such a great level that we can exist even in most adverse
and you can say the worst conditions, in which you can’t.
Ancient: You’re right. I can’t exist. The reason is that I can live if I’m in
Ancient: Yaw, but don’t you believe in the Big Bang and Big Crunch?
Modern: Yaw, I do. You know our scientists have found all the details
Ancient: That’s great. We always believed in it. For us the egg is the
universe.
Modern: What, egg, what did you say; the universe is an egg? Do not be
silly.
Ancient: Well, you’re made up of electrons and thus the atoms and
Modern: Yaw, but how can you correlate egg, atom and human with
Ancient: No. you see the egg represent the nature and the atom represents
the universe.
Modern: It’s illogical. You said that the egg is the universe and now you
Ancient: Yaw, it may seem illogical. All right, can universe exist without
an atom?
Ancient: At the same time, can the universe exist without an egg?
Modern: It seems a horrible to feel that the universe can exist without
Ancient: Now, can I claim that the atom represent universe and egg
Ancient: You remember we had the wheat seeds and the flour. The wheat
very poor.
granny’s times. (They laugh), now I can notice the gap of three generation
Modern: You know there’s no psychiatrist nearby, I may get insane. (They
laugh). How can the egg and the wheat seed be same?
Ancient: Well, can the hen live without food that it eats?
Modern: No.
Ancient: So, for the hen and thus for the egg, food is life. Now, can it live
without water?
Modern: Yaw. You know this kind of talk seems childish; you’re repeating
Ancient: Exactly, that’s the main problem you’ve. You never wish to
consider yourself a child. So, you can’t learn like a child. Thus, what you
Modern: Yaw, I don’t like it. However, I like to revise, you’re wrong here.
Modern: How can you say that my revision is same as the repetition?
Ancient: You said that I repeat words, isn’t it.
Ancient: Now, can you tell me if you’ve the discerning power to know if
Ancient: You know we’ve the same word used as noun, pronoun, adjective
Ancient: You know the slang words that we use are the most repeated
ones as well as the pet words. Each time, the repeated word has different
gestures, postures and the impression which create different meanings and
feelings for the same word. Do you get irritated if people keep on calling
you uncle?
Modern: I see. Now, I understand what you mean. The words do not
word and or a sentence. We mostly know what we have say and what we
are going to hear in its response. However, it’s a great facility isn’t it?
Modern: What, what did you say, luxury, a luxury of mind. What do you
mean?
Ancient: You see we mostly feel comfortable in the known thoughts, ideas,
concepts, feelings and thus the interactions. It’s luxury of petting our
mind.
Modern: Gosh, you’re a crazy person. What do you mean by saying, the
Ancient: Yaw, why not. You see when we hear what we want to we feel
happy, and sad when we hear what we do not want to. Moreover, in most
of the cases, we keep on recalling who, when and where we had the
desired results and answers. We label it as the good memories. We, thus,
Modern: You see that’s not fair. Should we recall the sad or the bad
memories?
Modern: Well, it’s the retentive power of mind, we can recall anything if
Modern: What do you mean to say, how can we suppress bad memories?
Ancient: All right. Do you recall the martyrs, the soldiers, the others, who
Ancient: Yaw, we all do it, but in our personal life we tend to escape from
the painful experiences. It increases the suffering. We try to recall the good
Modern: I see. Can you tell what can make person accept both good and
bad as same?
Modern: Yaw; it does what it has to. It functions, operates and makes our
Ancient: Yaw, that’s what you believe. You know, it does its duty. We
Modern: I see. So, it means our memory need to be duty oriented not
desire oriented, if we do petting of our mind, it won’t perform its duty and
Ancients: Yaw, while at the same time we learn to follow our desires. It’s
mind?
Ancient: You know mind can be made reactive in a certain way; we mostly
Modern: Well, you see any bad or evil person performs the antisocial
Ancient: Yaw, mostly it appears. We’re not talking about the Psychology.
It’s philosophy that enables person to discern and decide about what is
right and wrong. This right and wrong is the universal concept, but in
psychology, one believes right or wrong based on likes and dislikes, thus
the pleasure and pain. Your opinion is based on the lower mentality the
philosophy that has a concern for the ethics and the value system helping
one to learn, while following it, rather than conditioning to accept right or
Modern: I see. It seems right to me. Do you believe that we do not need the
theory of conditioning?
Ancient: No, we need it, but for the animals and other kinds of life of
lower level of life in this matter. However, we use it for the higher
purposes.
Ancient: You see when we follow the ethics and value systems
Ancient: Right, we use the theory of conditioning for it. We’ve to learn
Modern: You know many people use it for so called philosophical aims.
Ancient: You’ve the fixed idea. The philosophy tells what ought to be done
and what not ought to be done for all, not just for some group of people or
Modern: Are you escaping from my point just by saying that it’s another
concept or idea?
Ancient: No, you seem to assume. These assumptions in the society
constitute the sociological concepts and ideas, which many people try to
propagate as the philosophy and use the emotions and thoughts of the
Modern: Yaw, you’re right. Then, how can we use psychology for the
philosophical objectives?
Ancient: We allow one to decide according to the system that is same for
Modern: Yaw, I agree that we do have the universal value system that’s
same or common for all. We’ll continue it in our next discussion. Thanks!