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To: Team 7
From: Lisa Sullivan
Date: 7/2/03
Re: Conference call with Alan Schwartz, former Counsel on the PAN AM Commission
Team 7's conference call with Alan Schwartz, former Counsel on the PAN AM
Commission, covered topics related to Commission work and report production in
general, as well as more specific areas of overlap between the team's investigation and
the work of the PAN AM Commission.
In crafting recommendations for the report, Schwartz advised that this Commission
keep in mind that the current climate (post 9-11) is far more litigious; and public
expectation of retribution and compensation in the event of a terrorist attack is higher
than it was during his experience at the PAN AM Commission.
The PAN AM Commission's findings did not exhibit confidence in FAA leadership. To
demonstrate the point, Schwartz discussed a prototype - a nitrogen machine - developed
by Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) to detect bomb materials at
airports. SAIC was awarded the contract through a procurement competition it had
"lobbied hard for" and tailored the machines to specifications provided by the FAA.
During deployment by DOT, the "pilot program" encountered many false alarms, and it
was concluded that the machines were not sufficient detection devices due to incorrect
specifications provided by the FAA during the research and development phase. Pressure
from Congress, the administration, SAIC's lobby, and particularly the families had
prevented the DOT from finding a suitable alternative to the SAIC prototype long before
the deployment phase. Not only was public safety compromised in the short term, but
scientific/technical development in bomb detection devices froze for a number of years.
Today, funding for research and development in airport security lacks "scientific rigor."
Schwartz saw the value of drafting a significant roadmap of tech/research/development
goals in order to avoid starting from scratch every five years. Since 9-11, military and
commercial interests have converged in terms of force protection and infrastructure
protection (DHS), thereby changing the landscape for future research and development
projects. He said he would give the idea of such a roadmap some thought and get back to
team 7 on ideas, such as who to interview from R and D firms.
Schwartz also touched on the PAN AM Commission's threat assessment, which was
international in scope and focused on explosives. Security measures the USG wished to
enforce at airports abroad were first implemented domestically in order to achieve a
parallel response from other countries. Commission staff did not perceive the threat of
terrorism to be the same or higher domestically. He acknowledged that the
Commission's assessment was not comprehensive, and in so doing he pointed out the
difficulty of legislatively imposing unprecedented infrastructure change upon a
cumbersome bureaucratic system.
Schwartz welcomed the invitation to talk further with Chris and Philip, and he suggested
another person the Commission might benefit from talking to is Nina Bonyensen.
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