THE MYSTERY WOMAN WHO CHARMED TB JOSHUA

Many myths surround Prophet Temitope Joshua, the

youthful General Overseer of The Synagogue, Church Of
All Nations. When cynics are not raising questions
about his source of supernatural powers, they are
perpetually wondering what manner of man is he. Yet,
the more people seek to unravel or spin stories about
this enigma, the more confused they get.

But apart from the astounding miracles that unfurl in

the church every day, critics also never cease
wondering if the man actually has any marital life.

Yet, they sure know he is not a monk, even though like

a monk, he is holed up in his religious commune,
devoting his time and substance to prayer, solitude and
contemplation. But today, we unveil that vital aspect of TB Joshua that you
never knew or know very little about…

A bevy of ladies, very beautiful ladies, strut elegantly into the penthouse presidential
suite at The Synagogue Church of All Nation s where The Spectator team is patiently
waiting, and watching videos of some of the explosive miracles the church has
witnessed in recent times. At this hour, the team is watching the video of the special
thanksgiving service held for the brand new Ghanaian President, Professor John Atta
Mills, on his recent ascendancy to power.

When the door closes behind the ladies, the first thing you notice about Evelyn, the
delectable wife of Prophet TB Joshua, the General Overseer of The Synagogue, Church
Of All Nations, is her infectious radiance and unmistakable enthusiasm. Both
attributes, even more, make her the most powerful, yet most adorable woman in the
spiritual empire that her husband has built. An empire which presidents, kings and
queens, princes and princesses, and assorted dignitaries from across the globe,
routinely throng for their diverse spiritual needs.

Yet, not many among the teeming parishioners, even in the outside world, know that
this absolutely delightful woman is the moving force behind the world acclaimed, yet
much vilified prophet – Temitope Joshua. “Apart from God,” quips one worshipper, her
voice barely audible, “this woman is the next most powerful force behind Prophet TB
Joshua. She is a workaholic. She is a wonderful counsellor. She compliments her
husband.”

Yet this self-effacing beauty carries none of these testimonials like a banner in the
manner of some. Indeed, as the sultry lady struts into the suite, this cool afternoon,
clad in a simple but colourful gown, she carries no emblem that usually typifies a
powerful hand behind the throne. Rather, from the shining beads of sweat on her
temple, you would need no soothsayer to tell you that the woman has been working
herself to the bones. Even as she sinks into a settee opposite the team, an aide still
wants her to attend to a detail. “But I can’t keep these editors waiting,” she retorts
with her velvety voice. “I think that can wait.”

With that, she signals us to begin to fire our question. In one hour, the session is over.
The product of that encounter is the stuff this superlative exclusive is made. Please,
enjoy the interview, the first she has ever granted any Nigerian newspaper. And we
are not blowing our trumpet.
Excerpts:
Your husband made a promise about nine months ago that The Spectator
would be the first Nigerian newspaper you would talk to. After waiting for so
long, we thought it was never going to happen. But it is happening now. So,
let’s start by asking you, how does it feel to be Mrs Evelyn TB Joshua?
I count myself very lucky among women. My husband is a man every woman will want
to have as a husband.

That presupposes a serious contest over him (general laughter…). Seriously

speaking, do you fight any battle to keep him?
Not at all. I know that every woman will desire to have him as a husband, but there
are not struggles on my part to keep him.

Prophet Joshua is very handsome and a great instrument in the hands of

God, sought after, all over the world, by presidents and kings. You mean
there are no special battles you fight to gain his attention and also keep him
from prying female eyes?
Not at all. But I know that when a man is hardworking and God-fearing, every woman
will like to have him. But believe me, I fight no special battles to keep him. He knows
who he believes and God whom he believe and serves so well is capable of keeping
him, and has, indeed, been keeping him.

So, how do you cope with his tight schedule? This is somebody who spends
every minute of his life in the church ministering to people’s needs and all
that; and we do know that women need their husbands as much as their
husbands need them.
We are into the same cause. So, I don’t have any difficulties handling that aspect at all
because we are pursuing the same goal. God has so made it that we complement
each other perfectly well in very many ways.

Are you a pastor, too?

No, but I am helping.

So, you never trained as a pastor?

We are many here; we are under training.

Under him?
Yes, and it is a life-long training. It is a continuous, never-ending training like the
school of life. Of course, as long as we are living, we will continue to strive in God’s
will.

So, how exactly did you meet Prophet TB Joshua? We want to know the year,
the circumstances and all that…
(laughs heartily…) It was around 1989

That was 20 years ago?

Twenty years now, yes. I visited a sister somewhere at Ikotun-Egbe, and, then they
were talking about a particular man, a prophet to be precise. It was a kind of meeting
to be precise. And it’s like everybody in that gathering, or at least half of the people in
the room, had actually visited him. So, they were saying a lot of good things about
him. I was thrilled. At the end of the whole thing, I called a sister outside and asked
whether she could take me to the prophet. I didn’t ask to go there out of curiosity. I
actually needed a guide at that point in time.

Were you at any crossroads at that point in time?

Not really. I wasn’t at any crossroads, but I desperately needed a guide.

Or were there some challenges you were facing and for which you needed to
see this man of God?
Not quite so. But I had seen pastors. I worshipped in a church and I had read about
prophets in the Bible, though I had never come across any. But at that particular time,
I needed a guide, sort of.

Spiritual guide?
Yes, a spiritual guide. A counsellor.

Could you tell us the church were you were worshipping before you
suddenly and desperately needed this spiritual guide?
I was in Assemblies of God Church.

How long were you there?

As long as I can remember.

Were you born there?

No, I was not. Can we go back to my story, please? So, the sister and I scheduled a
date. We got to his place and he was not around.

Not to The Synagogue, I believe?

No, to his house.

Okay, where was his house then?

Down in Ikotun-Egbe, at Agodo.

It was a mansion was it?

(Laughs loudly…) Yes, by the grace of God, it was.

If we may take you back, what things were people talking about that made
you get interested in him?
Many things. This one said he prayed for him and things became okay from there.
Another said her life was at a bend but straightened up when she met him. You know,
things like that. So, we went there. Unfortunately, we did not meet him at home. But
looking back now, I thank God that we didn’t meet him that day.

Why?
Because that would have been the end of this story.

Why would it have been the end of the story?

It would have been because what he told me the very first day that I set my eyes on
him, if the sister were there, I would have believed that maybe she had gone behind
me to tell him all about me. And that would have ruined it.

So, did the man of God tell you the story of his life?
Yes, of course.

Without any pre-knowledge of who you were?

Yes. Okay, I’m coming (laughs…). Some months after, I visited him. That was in 1990.
I could remember that day was a public holiday. I remember also how I nearly lost my
way because I had never been to the place before, except that day I went with the
sister.

That is to say, this time you went alone?

Yes, I did. I went alone. But before I was able to locate the place, it was a bit difficult
for me. When I got into the waiting room, I met two men waiting to see him. Before
this time, the idea that I had about a prophet was that of an old man with a white,
long beard and things like that. So, on that day, I was reading a novel that I came with
when I suddenly saw someone come into the room, pick one or two things and went
back. But the shadow of whatever I saw was not that of an old man.

Did you greet him?

No, I didn’t even look at his face. But when he left one, one of the two men was telling
the other one, ‘that’s him. That’s him.’ I looked up but he had gone. They went into
the consulting room before me. Finally, it was my turn, and I went in there. We sat
opposite each other. And, he was gazing at me for about a minute and some seconds.
I gazed at him, too. Transfixed as I was, I noticed that there was a piece of paper
before him. Still looking at me, he wrote the word, ‘Ejide’, on it. (Transliterated, Eji de –
twin has come). Lest I forget, I’m a twin.

And before then, you had not told him anything about yourself?
No, we were just looking at each other until he, at a time, wrote my name on the piece
of paper. So, we started talking. He told me a lot of things about myself, both things
that I knew, and those that I never knew. I was shocked. He told me about my family,
about my past, my present and my future. Altogether, we spent about 45 minutes. At
the end of the whole thing, he spoke to me in Yoruba and said: Joo ma binu o. Ma ro
pe bi mo se nba gbogbo eniyan ti o ba wa s’odo mi soro ni eleyi o. Mi o ni ale, mi o
dee fee ni ale. Sugbon, se oo fe mi? (Transliterated, this means: Please, don’t be
annoyed. Don’t think this is how I talk to everyone that comes to me. I don’t have a
concubine, and I don’t want to have a concubine. But can you marry me?)

Just like that?

Just like that. It was strange, but that gives us an insight into what the Scripture says
that the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. I think that was it.
That was how I met him. Some months later, I asked him why he thought it was right
seeing a lady for the first time and going on to propose to her. He said he had seen
me four days before that very day.

Where?
I don’t know

In his dream?
I don’t know.

Or was it a revelation?
Honestly, I don’t know.

Okay, let’s go back to the time you entered his consulting room. You said
you sat opposite him and looking at each other intensely, I believe. At that
particular moment, what was going on in your mind?
A lot of things. In the first place, I was expecting to see an elderly man.
But instead you saw a dashing, handsome, young man?
(Laughs). Oh yes! That was it.

He too must have been captivated by a ravishing beauty like you…

(Laughs again…) I wouldn’t know. But like I told you, he wrote my name on the piece
of paper before him. That was the first thing that really shocked me. And the fact that
he proposed to me the first time that we met without waiting to know some things
about me.

Wait a minute. Don’t you think that one of your friends could have had
contact with him and told him about you?
Unfortunately, I don’t have friends. As I told you, it was a sister that I visited who took
me there in the first place. So, there is no way anybody could have gone to tell him
about me. And, when I was going there the second time, she wasn’t there. I went
alone.

Why did you choose to leave where you were worshipping?

I’ve told you how I got to know about him. I told you too, that I didn’t go there out of
curiosity. I needed a guide, whom, I believe, I could get from the prophet. That’s why I
went.

In what area of your life did you need a guide before you went to him? Was
it on marriage, business etc.? What area?
You know, life is full of challenges. As a young lady, I knew God was there. I have a
Creator and I know He can guide me into the right path. So, I wouldn’t say business or
marriage drove me to him. I just needed someone to guide me into the right path in
life.

What were you doing in the secular world before this time?
Should I say as it was then, so it is now? After my secondary school education, at that
time, you could get a job in a factory or whatever, hoping to be staffed one day. So
after my secondary school education, life was like: today, you are in business;
tomorrow, you are in a printing press, and so on. I think the last place I worked before
I met him was in Nigerian Distilleries in Ota.

I was going to ask what you trained in because you are so fluent in
expression and other things…
(Laughs)

What qualities eventually cemented the relationship between you and

Prophet TB Joshua?
As I told you, he is a very honest and humble man. Yes, he is a God fearing man too. I
saw a kind-hearted man, a zealous man, a man of one purpose, a man with a sole
aim: to please God at all times, with every other thing being secondary. I think those
qualities were what cemented our relationship.

Okay, how were you convinced that he was the man that you were going to
spend the rest of your life with?
When I woke up that very morning, I never knew. But something in me said: ‘Go to the
prophet.’ And when he proposed to me, it was strange, but then, my heart agreed
with it instantly.

Did you say ‘Yes’ there and then?

I don’t think I have said yes up till now! (General laughter)
You can say that again. So, from there, one thing led to another and then
your marriage or wedding. When did it take place? How many months or
years of courtship did you have?
I am not sure that we courted for long. The wedding took place the same year – 1990.

Where did you get married?

In my place (laughs)

Was it a church wedding or traditional wedding?

Both

Let’s have you talk a little about yourself, when you were born and where,
about your family and where you come from.
I was born about 40 years ago into a family of seven.

You don’t look it at all…

(Laughs)

What’s your position in the family?

Fifth, my twin brother and I.

Twin brother? Where is he?

He is late.

What a pity.
There’s no problem. I was born to the late Mr and Mrs Nicholas Akabude in the quiet
town of Okala Okpuno in Oshimili North local government of Delta State. I started my
primary education at St. Emecheta Primary School, Ezi Town, also in Delta State. Years
later, I came to Lagos, that was in 1977, and completed my primary education here at
Orile Primary School, Oshidi, and my secondary education also in Oshodi. That’s all
about my education. But a few years later, my husband sent me to Ghana and I was
able to take some management courses there.

So, in what practical ways has your ministry complemented your husband’s?
I know you are a minister in The Synagogue. What’s your own ministry? Tell
us about your ministry.
It’s the ministry of reconciliation.

In marriage?
In all aspects – parents-children relationships, marriage and things like that. I think
they go hand-in-hand with one another. You can’t actually separate them.

How does this ministry complement your husband’s ministry, bearing in

mind that he is into a prophetic and healing ministry?
When we talk about reconciliation, you need a lot of time to listen to people, to hear
them; they want to bare their minds and a prophet hasn’t got that time, especially
after talking for hours. But I do that.

What are the peculiar challenges that face you as Mrs TB Joshua?
Challenges?

Yes, are there challenges that you face?

Life is all about challenges. All those problems and trials, I see them as challenges.
Maybe you are getting used to not seeing him regularly as you would have
loved to…
No, no, no. What’s he doing? Whatever it is, he has my support.

Seeing a lot of people and having to minister to them…

That’s good.

You mean it doesn’t affect the home in anyway?

Not at all.

Okay, how come you have kept to yourself for so long, because if this is not
your first interview with the press, you’ve granted very negligible few? Or is
it that you dislike the press?
Not really. You said very few, not that I have not granted any.

You mean you have not come across any?

I’ve not. I hope this will go very far so that someone else does not come to ask me,
you’ve not granted any interview… (general laughter) Actually, like the Bible says,
there is a time for everything, and God’s time is the best. Maybe, the time is just ripe
for what we are doing now.

That is to say, there is a time to keep to yourself and…

And of course, a time to talk. (general laughter)

So, how do you combine your roles as a minister of God, as a mother, as a

wife? And, as a mother too, to the teeming crowd that comes to The
SCOAN…
Where God guides, He provides. And those whom God has called for any service, He
makes them fit for it. So, there is not much problem about that at all.

People believe that there are a lot of myths surrounding your husband. I’ve
been his friend since 1989. I’ve heard people say a lot about him. I’ve seen
people publish a lot of things about him, and they are still publishing. When
you read or hear things that are not palatable being said about your
husband, which ultimately must affect the family – how do you react? Do you
feel any bitterness?
Point of correction – it is not affecting my family, and can never affect my family in
any way because I know my husband, I know who he believes, and I know who I
believe. I don’t have any doubt in my mind and I know that the good work the Lord
has started in him, He will accomplish and complete, in Jesus’ Name.

So, you don’t feel any bitterness when people write negative things about
your husband?
Not at all. I don’t because I know him very well, and I know the God he serves.

How does his ministry complement yours?

I’ve said before that they are one. You can’t actually separate them. People come
around. They want to see the prophet. They want to spend time with him. But he
hasn’t got such time. You know, many of them want to bare their minds. You need to
listen to them carefully. You need to be with them. So, I took up that. You’ve got it?
They actually came for him but along the line, you find out that they want to spend
more time with him. That’s where I come in.
How do you help your husband to overcome the gargantuan temptations
that come his way every day, because this is a man exposed to thousands of
people every day, especially women? How do you help him?
You see, you don’t have any alternatives in life. I can as well tell you that we don’t
have alternatives in life. Anything that is contrary to what we stand for or what God
sent us for, is what we are going to fight against. I can say that God has been merciful
enough, guiding and protecting us in that angle.

The reason I asked that question is because I’ve seen many men of God fall
because of women, money, fame and other extraneous things…
You should know what you believe. Did you get that? As I said, you cannot afford to
fail. There is no other way. So, you must guard against that. And that’s what we’ve
been doing.

Could you tell us, in practical terms, how you’ve been guarding against
that?
The Bible says our heart is the communication point. If the fear of God is registered in
your heart at any time, if you are doing evil, you must know. And so, you must guard
that heart at all times. Anything that is contrary to the will of God, you shouldn’t take
part in it.

Kenneth Hagin wrote in his book about how he fights the temptation of
women. He said his office and his wife’s office are next to each other, and he
said he deliberately made it so. And that at every given time, the two doors
are open so that the wife sees the person he is counselling and he also sees
the person the wife is counselling, just to make sure he fights and defeats
the tendencies of the flesh.
Well, it is God that guides. It is God that protects. How long do you keep on watching
over a man? I mean, as I’ve just told you, I can say that I know him (Prophet TB
Joshua) very well, and I can tell what he is capable of doing. So, that’s no problem at
all. All right?

I was expecting you to tell us what measures you’ve put in place to ensure
that your husband doesn’t fall into the temptation of immorality while
counselling woman…
I don’t take any other measure than to pray for him.

So, what counsel would you give to ministers’ wives as to how they can help
the ministry of their husbands, as to how they can protect and preserve
their homes while serving God and humanity?
The counsel is, be the woman that God has made you to be. Don’t measure yourself
by yourself and don’t live by other people’s standards. Rest in the place God has for
you. Be a good mother to your children and a good wife to your husband, and a
woman of faith to humanity. Whatever situation you face in life, God is saying
something through it and about it.

If your husband were to be in the secular world, he would be a superstar –

because here is somebody who sits here, and presidents, top government
officials and important people come from across the globe to see him. Do
you have that feeling in you of having been married to a superstar?
All we do here is just absolute grace of God. Everything that happens here is by the
grace of God, and the joy of the Lord is our strength. So, we don’t feel anything
special because important people are coming. Rather, we appreciate the grace of God
upon our lives, upon the church, and we give Him all the glory. So, there is no
superstar feeling. If there is any superstar, that superstar is Jesus through whom we
can do all things. So, I don’t feel any different from who God says I am. My husband
doesn’t feel any different from who God says he is.

If this man were not Prophet TB Joshua, would you have married him?
As I told you, apart from being a prophet, I actually saw what I needed in a man. So, it
is not a question of being a prophet. It is about his character, his inner being.

What kind of man did you pray to marry before you met him?
Every woman desires to have a good husband, although appearance is deceptive. But
God looks at the heart. I wanted a God-fearing man, an honest man and a kind-
hearted man. And those are the qualities that I saw in him.

Over the years, you’ve been to many places. What memories do you have of
the places you’ve been to, whether in Nigeria or outside?
Good memories. I’ve been to many places, you are right. After this, I still have
something good to talk about them, about the people and what they receive from the
Lord. We don’t just to because we want to go. We actually visit places because God
wants us to be there. And, when we leave there, there are good things to talk about.

What’s your greatest fear in life?

Fear?

Yes.
I don’t fear anything because I know God is there, and He can handle every situation.

What about embarrassing moments? Every human being does encounter

embarrassing moments, things that will just happen and they embarrass
you…
Embarrassing moments? Have I ever had any?

So, it has all been smooth?

There have been many challenges. I have said that.

What are these challenges? You’ve not told us.

Good and hard times (laughs)

You mean the wife of Prophet TB Joshua can have hard times too?
Because we are human

A man sought after by presidents, kinds and ministers, by everybody?

Sure, we are human.

Thank you very much.

I thank you, too.

SOURCE: Weekly Spectator, Nigeria – Vol. 1 No. 54