1998428FRANCE_869 rla Gurudeva: r Guru prama

ajna-timirndhasya jnjana-alkay caksur unmlita yena tasmai r gurave nama O Gurudeva, you are so merciful. I offer my humble prama to you and am praying from the core of my heart that, with the torchlight of divine knowledge, you open my eyes which have been blinded by the darkness of ignorance.

vch-kalpa-tarubya ca kp-sindhubhya eva ca patitn pvanebhyo vaiavebhyo namo nama [I offer pramas unto the Vaiavas, who are just like wish-fulfilling desire trees, who are an ocean of mercy, and who deliver the fallen, conditioned souls. r Gauya Gti-guccha (r Vaiava vandan)]

namo mah-vadnyya ka-prema-pradya te kya ka-caitanya-nmne gaura-tvie nama [I offer prama unto r Ksa-Caitanya, who is r Ka Himself. Having assumed the golden hue of rmat Rdhik, He is munificently bestowing ka-prema, the rarest of all gifts. r Gauya Gti-guccha (rman Mahprabhu vandan)] gurave gauracandrya rdhikyai tadlaye kya ka-bhaktya tad-bhaktya namo nama [I offer my obeisances time and again unto r Guru, r Gauracandra, rmat Rdhik, Her associates and Her abode r Vndvana Dhma, and unto r Ka and all of His devotees. An Unknown Vaiava r lokmtam (Magalcaraa)] bhakty vihn apardha-lakai kipt ca kmdi-taraga-madhye kpmayi tv araa prapann vnde numas te cararavindam [O merciful Vnd-devi, being devoid of devotion and guilty of unlimited offenses, I am being tossed about in the ocean of material existence by the turbulent waves of lust, anger, greed and other inauspicious impediments. Therefore, I take shelter of you as I offer praama unto your lotus feet. r Vnd Devy-aakam (8), rla Vivantha Cakravart hkura]

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ya pravrajantam anupetam apeta-ktya dvaipyano viraha-ktara juhva putreti tan-mayatay taravo bhinedus ta sarva-bhta-hdaya munim nato smi [I offer prama to r ukadeva Gosvm, who can enter the hearts of all people. When he left home without undergoing the purificatory processes such as accept- ing the sacred thread, his father Vysa cried out, O my son! As if they were absorbed in that same feeling of separation, the trees echoed in response to his call. rmad Bhgavatam (1.2.2)]

rla Gurudeva: First of all I am offering my lakhs and lakhs daavat pramas unto the lotus feet of my Gurudeva, nitya-ll-pravia o viupda r rmad Bhakti Prajna Keava Gosvm Mahrja. Also, I am offering my daavat pramas unto the lotus feet of my ik guru rla Bhaktivednta Svm Mahrja who preached the mission (throughout) the whole world in a very (break audio). By his mercy we can know Rdh-Ka r Caitanya Mahprabhu and His teachings. But nowadays in Vndvana we see that some bbjs are there and they are telling that Svmji or the disciples of rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat Gosvm hkura really they dont have any guru parampar. These foolish person, very week persons, not knowing any stra, they will be bewildered by these things. But if a man who can preach the mission of Caitanya Mahprabhu (throughout) the whole world in a very little time, he can write so many books, like (indistinct) Caitanya-caritmta, he can publish and explain rmad Bhgavatam, the books of Rpa Gosvm, Jva Gosvm, how he can be an ordinary person? He was in the line of rla Bhaktivinoda hkura, rla Prabhupda, in the line of really r Raghuntha Dsa Gosvm, Rpa Gosvm, Svarpa Dmodara, Rya Rmnanda, and r Caitanya Mahprabhu. Bbjs are envious. I dont know from where they can, where is their guru parampar. Actually, there is no guru parampar of these bbjs, so-called bbjs. And that is why they are doing some nonsense things to real vaiavas and guru parampar. I see that in any epic, Bhgavata, Gt, any Pura, even in Upaniads, in Vedanta, in Baladeva Vidybhaas Govinda-bhya, or in the books of Vivantha Cakravart hkura, Narottama hkura, there is no word bbj. Never I have seen. You can not see bbj word. From where this came? But on the other hand we see renounced order sannysa. It is written in the Vedas, rmad Bhgavatam, tridai sannysa. There is a story of a tridai sannys. In all Upaniads it has been clearly given the method by which a person can take renounced order, sannysa. By saffron cloth and daa and (unknown) and kaupna. There is a Sannysa Upaniad also. In Gt also it has been written about sannysa. What is a real sannys but never it has been told about bbj. So, they have no guru parampar. Nothing
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anywhere written about that thing. Caitanya Mahprabhu was not Himself bbj. Madhvcrya, Rmnuja, any of them, were not bbj. We know that I s vara Pur pa da and Mdhavendra Pur were not bbjs; they were sannyss. After that Santana Gosvm, Svarpa Dmodara, and Rya Rmnanda were not bbjs. Caitanya Mahprabhu, when He was in Vras, in K, Santana Gosvm came in a Muslim beggar shape there. So much beard and very dirty clothes like Mohammedan beggars. But when Caitanya Mahprabhu met him He at once ran towards him and embraced him. Then He ordered (Santana Gosvm) to be sacred: to go take bath in Ganges, to shave, and all these things. He came and then Tapana Mira, the associate of Caitanya Mahprabhu, wanted to give him new clothes, but he refused it. And he told, if you want to give me clothes then you should give me your old dhoti. And he gave. Then he made his (indistinct) vea out of cloth and (unknown) and kaupna of sannyss. And he took himself no fire sacrifice or anything. And Caitanya Mahprabhu did not give any mantra for this, nothing. Caitanya Mahprabhu, at that time, was in His red cloth and Santana Gosvm thought that, I should be very humble. I should not take the (same) cloth as Caitanya Mahprabhu. He had so much (indistinct) that sannys cloth and daa and everything. So, being a humble person, he took only white dress in very smallthat he is not going to take so much (lumbar), khoti, kota, and all other things. (He took) as he required only. Audience: Minimum. rla Gurudeva: Minimum. Only this. To minimize he took that vea. Caitanya Mahprabhu, it is not written anywhere that He took gop bhva. That you gop, you are Lalit, you are Vikh, and I am giving you 11 kinds of moods. Your name is Lalit, you are an inhabitant of Vars n , your birthplace is Vars n , you are married to any Abhimanyu gopa, and your dress is this, and you are (indistinct) ds from today. Never He gave anything. These things are not even written anywhere. Rpa Gosvm has he taken anything from anyone? Nothing. He was like ordinary, in white dress. He has taken (indistinct) and kaupna or not? It is not written anywhere. About Jva Gosvm: he was Jva Gosvm not Jva bbj. Kadsa Kavirja Gosvm his older name from ghastha, ymnanda prabhu, Narottama hkura, and rvsa, (indistinct), never bbj. Anywhere not written and by this line that, You are gop and what gop. Also, Vivantha Cakravart hkura to end he was Vivantha Cakravart hkura, a householder name, Cakravart. This is the title of ghastha vaiava brhmaas. Also, Baladeva Vidybhaa, not

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bbj. So, we see that there is no word bbj but it was used for old persons in villages. Like someone used to tell Santana Gosvm, Oh! You are a great bbj! So, not like this anyone coming from, he has not left worldly desires, he is not renounced, and he has not known all the vaiava established truths. He is engaged in worldly four things: eating, sleeping, fearing, and mating. Also, involved in three (indistinct) and anyone comes at once bbj used to give him, Oh, you are Lalit, you are Vikh. This is the root of all evils. Anywhere it is not written like this. So, there is no guru parampar of these bbjs and that is why they tell gauya vaiava from origin. From Brahm to Nrada, Vysa, ukadeva Gosvm, Madhvcrya and his parampar and then Mdhavendra Pur, I s vara Pur , Caitanya Mahprabhu, Rpa-Santana, Jva, Raguntha, Kadsa Kavirja Gosvm, Narottama hkura, ymnanda, and after that Vivantha Cakravart hkura. This is line. We have gauya guru parampar. Someone can raise anything about Bhaktivinoda hkura. Who was his guru? He accepted (unknown), no harm, but his ik bhgavata parampar guru was Jaganntha dsa Babaji Mahrja. ik guru is not less that any dk guru. Sometimes he may be more than dk guru. Like we accept Caitanya Mahprabhu, Rdh-Ka, and Rpa Gosvm (as) our ik guru. Like Kadsa Kavirja Gosvm has accepted six ik gurus. (indistinct verse) So, there should be no doubt about all these things. So, sometimes ik may be more, more superior than dk guru. I know I have so much faith and belief in my Gurudeva but I know that Rpa Gosvm is guru of my Gurudeva. rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat Gosvm, though he is our jagad-guru but he always considered Rpa Gosvm and rmati Rdhik his ik guru. You know (indistinct)? This loka? Bilvamagala hkura has prayed in his book, Ka (Karanamrta), that ik guru is Ka Himself, Nanda-nanda. (indistinct). Keeping black feathers here and bouncing in his lips. So, his guru, who was his guru? (unknown). But he preferred his Gurudeva, ik guru, Ka. He can respect his Gurudeva but he respected more superior his ik guru. So, we should not forget all these things. rla Bhaktivinoda hkura has guru who was (unknown) (and he) has written in r Caitanya-caritmta explanation but his ik guru and bhgavata parampar guru was Jaganntha dsa Babaji Mahrja, no harm. Jaganntha Babaji has his

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disciplic guru parampar. rla Prabhupda has accepted rla Gaurakiora Dsa Bbj Mahrja. Undoubtedly he was a pure vaiava. Not only that but he was a mah-bhgavata. Can you tell who was guru of Haridsa hkur? No need. If any Brahm or Prahlda Mahrja is coming in the shape of Caitanya Mahprabhu associates they dont need anything. We should accept without any doubt. Can you tell who was the guru of Svarpa Dmodara? Who was the guru of rvsa pand i ta? rvsa pand i ta was like Nrada, Murri Gupta was Hanumn, maybe he was initiated by others but Caitanya Mahprabhu accepted all. So, there is no anywe dont know (who was their guru) but we accept them (as bona fide). So, we should not have any doubt about Svmji that he has no guru parampar, Bhaktivednta Svm Mahrja, rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat his guru was rla Gaurakiora Dsa Bbj Mahrja, you know, and his ik guru who was? rla Bhaktivinoda hkura. He has taken all these things, all siddhntas and moods from rla Bhaktivinoda hkura. If there is no guru of Bhaktivinoda hkura yet he is (still) vaiava. Like Haridsa hkur and others. But he has. So, we have no any doubt about this. If anyone has doubt they will lose their bhakti and they will go to hell. All bbjs are like that. They are very jealous and that is why they are telling. From where it began I dont know. Can any bbj of Vndvana, Rdh-kua, they can tell that from here it begins bbj vea? They can not tell. But they can tell very easily that, Gauya vaiava has no parampar. And the bogus persons shaking but like pendulum, rejected by gauya vaiavas, debauchee, having so much lust, rejected by gauya vaiavas they go and become bbj. So, you should be very strong in this thing. rla Bhaktivinoda hkura, Prabhupda, and Svmji, and we dont want to criticize them, there rules and regulations, keeping bbj vea. What we criticize is their mood. rla Bhaktivinoda hkura is telling in Jaiva-Dharma (break audio) rla Gurudeva: (indistinct) bhgavata parampar. Without bhgavata parampar guru parampar is nothing. Audience: You may explain what is bhgavata parampar? rla Gurudeva: You should tell. (break audio) rla Gurudeva: or Bhaktivinoda hkura or anyone has not criticized about that vea. Taking (unknown) and kaupna. Like accepting that we are following gops. We criticize, Bhak-5-

tivinoda hkura, rla Prabhupda, Rpa Gosvm, and all have criticized that a newcomer person who comes he does not know anything, something, quarreling with his wife, or his wife has divorced him. And he has no means to support his life and anyhow he comes and sees that only this life if I will take bbj vea then everything will be solved. Also, I may have two, three, four, five, widows also. No harm. And we will be then equipped with all the things which are necessary for worldly life. Even they dont have any symptom of renunciation, they are too attached to worldly things. Even they are so lusty. There is no established truth. They dont know anything about this. They dont know what is bhakti, who is Ka, what is bhakti, what is bhakti rsa. They dont know even which are gops. Nothing. Also, I am reading from Bhaktivinoda hkura, they have no uddha-bhakti to Ka. They are always engaged in asat-sanga, viay-sanga, association of sense gratifiers. They are also having envy. But even if we go to Rdh-kua and Vndvana they will take only 25 piasa. This (is) nothing. They will take and they will think they are making guru parampar. And at once, without delay, because they will think that he will go to other bbj, and he will make disciple. So, he at once give up their hair and he will give them (unknown) and kaupna and thus at once gop mood. That you are Lalit, you are Rpa-majar, you are majar. This is not correct method. First we should try to obey all the rules and regulations being in ghastha. Then we become detached from worldly affairs, totally. And coming in vaiava sdhu sanga they rddha and then, with rddha, again sdhu sanga and then after sdhu sanga he will understand the need of sadguru and he will inquire and search for a very good and qualified guru. And then he will take initiation and he will take ik from him. He he will serve Gurudeva in a beautiful way like friends. visvambena guror seva And he will offer totally to Gurudeva. And after so many days, so many years, he will be qualified in all kinds of bhakti siddhnta, established truths. He will know Bhakti-sandarbha and all rmad Bhgavatam and then he will be qualified and then he will come to the stage of niha. And after completing the course of niha, when he will be naturally niha, then ruci will come automatically. When ruci will come it will come first on bhajana, chanting and remembering and all these things. So, it is also of two kinds. When aakti will come it is also of two kinds. First it will come aakti in chanting and remembering and it will be now again turn into aakti towards bhajanir, that is Rdh-Ka conjugal, or Caitanya Mahprabhu. And then he will be qualified to take this vea, (unknown) and kaupna. And 11 moods can come at that stage and guru will

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help him in taking (indistinct) what is your siddha-deha. In that very stage. Not before this. If before this any giving him siddha-deha then he will go to hell, certainly. So, in this stage Gurudeva tells him that you are so and so, your siddha name is this. Not outwardly he does anything like Svarpa Dmodara and Caitanya Mahprabhu told all these things to Rdh-kua when he came and he was so much learned in all kinds of bhakti and you know how he was renounced? He used to take the rotten remnants of Jaganntha-deva, not even taken by cows, rejected by cows. So, we should be qualified like this and then we will be qualified for 11 kinds of moods and then our siddha-deha we can, by siddha-deha, we can serve 24 hours (a day). This is (the) real method and this is siddha prali. Not that anyone is coming and, what I told (earlier), not qualified, just today coming and, Oh! You are Lalit gop, you are this and that. You are the daughter of (unknown) Mahrja and you are married to Jvaa and your place is in Rdh-kua and you are so beautiful. More (beautiful than) Mohin. And you are (indistinct) and you have so much (indistinct). And given now all these things he becomes (indistinct) he takes a nose ring, making (indistinct) here, wearing the ornament of ladies. Some ankle bells on their feet and they become a gop. We dont follow these things. And in these lies he will be with so many widows in India and they will have children. So, this is not real method and siddha prali. So, Bhaktivinoda hkura is giving, and rla Rpa Gosvm has given, this siddha prali and in Caitanya-caritmta they have given this bona fide siddha prali. But we can not follow in this stage. We will have to remember all our anarthas, apardhas, and there should be sakti, there should be very, very (deep) attachment to chanting, remembering, and all kinds of offenses have gone away and then Gurudeva will kindly, mercifully, he will accept his has his disciple and he will give the identification of his siddha. We have all, we have all siddha-deha but it is hidden by my in this material and my (subtle) body. But it is there. But who will know? If outer (externally) you are having purua bhva but hiding this, being a female, and you will associate with other ladies then what will be? So, he must go to hell, and they are going. There is no guru parampar of these vaiavas. So, we should try to be very bona fide in this and very strong. Have they written any book? All bbjs? Never. They dont know what is all these things. Once our Guruji was in Vndvana with 400 people and he was doing Vraja-maala parikram. He invited so many bbjs, about 400 bbjs came, gathered there (AUDIO BREAK)

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rla Gurudeva: (audio file begins in middle of sentence) all the bbjs, What is the aim and object of your sdhana and bhajana? They told that, We want to be liberated and even we want to (indistinct) brahma and we want to become brahma. Even they dont know myvda what is myvda, against bhakti. Then guru Mahrja was very, very Audience: Bold. rla Gurudeva: angry and he began to cut their all kinds of arguments. So, we should know that our guru parampar is bona fide. Dont associate with bbj. You can associate if you are so strong like us. I used to go to, in parikram, to Rdh-kua and challenge them (I used to say) that, If you are learned, you know anything, then come and discuss all these things. If I am defeated I will be bbj and I will be your disciple. Otherwise you should be my disciple. Neither anyone can come and answer. So, you should think that we are in a very good parampar, bona fide parampar. rla Bhaktivinoda hkura is telling thatyou should alsohave you read Jaiva-Dharma? You should try to read it very carefully. There were two persons, Vijaya Kumara and Brajantha. They, at first, accepted guru as Vaiava dsa, in Mypur, and they learned all kinds of (indistinct) and everything, 64 kinds of (indistinct) and everything. They were now expert in bhakti and then their guru sent them to Vndvanaum Audience: Jaganntha Pur rla Gurudeva: Jaganntha Pur and they met with Gopla Guru and there they learned what is bhakti and what is bhakti rsa. Who is Ka? Who is rmati Rdhik and who are the gops? And what is, how can bhakti turn into bhakti rsa? They became so perfect in all these things. And after that Gopla Guru gave them these things; (indistinct) moods and the (indistinct) and kaupna. This is siddha prali. What bbjs are doing now? They are doing nonsense. Not in siddha prali. They should first learn:
td api su-ncena taror via sahiun amnin mna-dena krtanya sad hari

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["One who thinks himself lover than the grass, who is more tolerant than a tree, and who does not expect personal honor yet is always prepared to give all respect to others can very easily always chant the hold name of the Lord" (di 17.3, Antya 6.239, Antya 20.21)]

They should be like this. rla Bhaktivinoda hkura is telling here. We see nowadays, have you Jaiva-Dharma? Audience: Not with me, no. rla Gurudeva: Acch. He is telling that, now we can see in Vndvana that they have left their homes in childhood and they come to Vndvana and Rdh-kua, having so much lust in their hearts, knowing nothing about bhakti, they are ignorant of all these things, they come to Vndvana, Rdh-kua, and they take this siddha pralinot siddhaasiddha prali. What is asiddha? Audience: Imperfect. rla Gurudeva: Bbj vea. And become bbj and if you tell, Who are you? What is your name? Oh, my name is Lalit dev. Oh, you are Lalit dev? They try to hide their male organs. And they try to show that they are gop. Whether they are not but in beginning they dont know how to wash their hands and (indistinct) and other things, but they become Lalit dev? Then they will certainly want any Ka then they search so many gops and thus they go to hell. This is not siddha prali rla Bhaktivinoda hkura is telling, so they must be qualified. A guru should think first to whom they are going to give this bbj vea (indistinct) and kaupna. Whether he is qualified for this or not. They should see whether they attend (indistinct)means? Audience: Controlling the mind, controlling the senses. rla Gurudeva: Controlling mind and this body senses also. They have given up (indistinct) attraction or not? They have given up the (indistinct) of jihv. Audience: Attachment of the tongue.

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rla Gurudeva: Attachment of the tongue. What is that? To take very bitter things, to take cigarette, to take wine, to take, not all these things, but very attracted to ganja and bong and drugs. This will lead certainly to hell. Everywhere, in Upademta, rla Bhaktivinoda hkura, rla Rpa Gosvm has told that someone thinks, like an Indian, some yogis, that it will help to take ganja, bong, cigarette. They dont take cigarette but ganja and bong. And they think that now we are absorbed in Ka prema. But they are so foolish that they can not imagine that they are going to be (indistinct) like dogs and hogs. Anywhere in the books of Rpa Gosvm or CaitanyaCaritmta or in the books of Jva Gosvm, even in rmad Bhgavatam, it has been toldwhat? A loka: (utan, padancatur-vidh). We should try to avoid, first coming to gurudeva, or before coming to gurudeva, in ghastha life. We should control four things. Basic principles. These are not bhakti but yet they will take us to the door of bhakti. Four: utan means gambling. panam Audience: Intoxication. rla Gurudeva: You can read. Panam. Cigarette. Even cigarette. Bidi. Tobacco. And the masala of tobacco and its supporters, like ganja is given in them, marijuana and all other things. They will bring lust surely. In a day or two or anything. Their intelligence will go away. They will go out of bhakti root. That is surely. So, all of rmad Bhgavatam, in the first canto, rla ukadeva Gosvm prohibited, for all kinds of devotees, dont touch it, all these things. So, dont think that they will add something helpful. Like some think like this. In India, some vaiavas of Ramanandi they take opium, ganja, pan, and chillum, very big chillum, water pipe. And the flame of their water pipe goes so high and that means they are considered to be a very high class of vaiava. They become naked and quarrel with each other. Very dangerous tamasic (ignorant). So, we should try to avoid. This is maha-maha Audience: Hideous offense.

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rla Gurudeva: Offense. Offense nopoisonlike this. So, we should try to give up all these things and then, if you have any desire for making money, for sense gratification, then he should not be given bbj vea. What I told. Bhaktivinoda hkura is telling, Rpa Gosvm is telling in Upademta, jihv vegam. If anyone giving in this stage then it is not siddha prali; it is the prali way to go to hell. So, we should try to be very strong in our guru parampar. Our guru parampar is right but their guru parampar is not right, artificial. Only from one hundred years their so-called siddha prali has come. But our real siddha prali has come from Vedas, Upaniads. We see that akara is giving siddha prali to (indistinct) and Nrada is giving to another. This is siddha prali. We accept this. But in a right way, in right process, and in the right time. If anyone is doing, rla Bhaktivinoda hkura is tellingyou should do. (Break in Audio) rla Gurudeva: In Vndvana there are groups like this, that, Bhaktisiddhnta has no siddha prali, no guru parampar. Bhaktivinoda hkura, likewise, no guru parampar. We should think about this very deeply and carefully. Who was the guru of Parkit Mahrja? Can anyone tell? We know that he may be in worldly guru, he could have a family guru like (indistinct) or others. But he heard rmad Bhgavatam from a bona fide vaiava, ukadeva Gosvm, renounced, detached from worldly desires, quite free. And ukadeva Gosvm had been given everything from his father and guru rla Vysadeva. He heard it, rmad Bhgavatam, and as a result of hearing rmad Bhgavatam, even not practicing, he directly to Goloka Vndvana. And, rla Santana Gosvm has told, that he came in the shape of any gop to serve conjugal. This is the process. There are two processes, rla Bhaktivinoda hkura and rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat hkura, they are bona fide disciples of rla Gaurakiora Dsa Bbj Mahrja and his guru. Someone may say that, Where is siddha prali? Has he not heard all these things from his ik guru and father rla Bhaktivinoda hkura? So, there are two processes. One process, if he is qualified in all these things, like Vijaya Kumara in Jaiva-Dharma, or rmad Bhgavatam, Parkit Mahrja is qualified, then he can minimize his dress and he can take himself (indistinct) or kaupna. No harm. Like Rmnuja took initiation from his guru, a guru of low caste, but he was a disciple of Ymuncrya. He was not myvd. Then he wanted to take renounced order from his Gurudeva Ymuncrya. When he reached to (indistinct) he saw that his guru has left this world and his material body was coming. He saw
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that his three fingers were like this. Why? He asked some other disciples of Ymuncrya but they could not answer. Then he promised, I will take sannysa here from him, just now I am taking. And he took (sannysa) and his one finger came like this (relaxed). And then he promised that, I will make a commentary on vedanta. Two (fingers) came (relaxed). And the he promised that, I will preach (indistinct) and I will write so many bhakti books. Three (fingers) came (relaxed). Then he accepted Ymuncrya as his guru. He thought that my Gurudeva never died, he is eternal. It is illusory my that a body seems like he is dead. But guru, bona fide guru, qualified guru, never dies. So, you think that your Prabhupda, Bhaktivednta Svm, has never died. rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat hkura never died. Any disciple or guru who is qualified, they will never die. I think that you also will not die, you will change your body like cloth. You are eternal. So, Rmnuja took sannysa there, his (indistinct) kaupna and daa after his departure from this world. Why Prabhupda can not take renounced order from Gaurakiora Dsa Bbj Mahrja, eternal but he had disappeared at that time. Why he can not take? And he took ekas moods, these eleven moods, siddha deha, siddha prali from rla Bhaktivinoda hkura. It is not wrong. It is in line of guru parampar. Anyone can not deny. If we can deny, ukadeva Gosvm, Santana Gosvm, Rpa Gosvm, Vysadeva, Rmnuja, Madhvcrya, then we can deny rla Prabhupda. He was so bold. He was jagad-guru. He has brought a revolution in bhakti cult. He has reformed all these things. So, he is certainly in guru parampar. rla Bhaktivinoda hkura took everything from Jaganntha dsa Babaji Mahrja ekas moods and that is why he has written in this. This is siddha prali. But being so much qualified, being free from all kinds of anarthas then it will come automatically from the upside. It will descend in the heart of pure devotees in the stage of bhva. So, before taking this bhva coming and we are going to imitate I am gop. I am in siddha prali. And you will see that his Gurudeva is making so much lust with other devotees, female devotees. So, we should not be (indistinct) these things. I know so many, those who left Svmji, Bhaktivednta Svmji, and went to bbj, and they again returned to their lust and they took so many mtjs, here and there, and they left everything. Now they are drinking, making babies, they are taking drugs, and everything. Someone has died. They have committed suicide. I know all. And in this line fifty-four years, serving all the main disciples of rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat hkura, I am associating with all. So, I know so many things that so many devotees they dont know all these things.

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So, you must be very strong; that svmj has guru parampar: rla Prabhupda, rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat hkura, rla Bhaktivinoda hkura, has real guru parampar. You should not be bewildered. If you are bewildered you will have to take your bad fruits. (break audio) rla Gurudeva: will not do anything. Never. You are reading stra, you are reading (indistinct) and you are learning Sanskrit (indistinct), (indistinct), and (indistinct). It will not do. Nowadays there is going on line like this. (unknown verse) In Caitanya-bhgavata it has been written. You know that how learned was (indistinct) but he was touched by bhakti at all. He was defeated at once by r Caitanya Mahprabhu. And Caitanya Mahprabhu told that, The reading of stra does not tend to give up bhakti practice. You should know (Sudden END Audio)

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