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Reverie and Interpretation: Sensing Something Human Review by: Douglas H. Frayn, a training and supervising psychoanalyst, past director of the Toronto Institute, and former associate director of the Canadian Institute of Psychoanalysis. He is also the former book editor of CJP He is associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and the author of a number of publications, including The Clarke and Its Founders A Retrospective Look at an Impossible Dream and Psychoanalysis in Toronto Historical Perspectives; 315 Avenue Road, #2 Toronto, ON M4V2H2 dougfrayn@utoronto.ca Review of: Thomas Ogden London Karnac Books , 1999 , 276 pp Thomas Ogden is a well-known (but rarely heard) psychoanalyst from San Francisco, and this is his fifth book Ogden's theoretical concepts focus on the overlapping reverie states of the analyst and analysand during the course of an analysis This exploration of the jointly generated analytic third highlights his work on transference/counter-transference This book is primarily based on Ogden's prior journal publications from 1995 to 1997, which include Aliveness and Deadness of the Transference-Countertransference, Perverse Subjects of Analysis, Three Aspects of Analytic Technique, and Use of Language in Psychoanalysis and Listening, as well as a whimsical article, Three Frost Poems I sometimes wonder why psychoanalysts write books It certainly isn't for the meagre financial rewards, and fame is unlikely, due to the small cadre of readers interested in psychodynamic theory and technique Why do we keep trying to retell our story, our unthought known, and our
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news from within? Is it because of continuing new insights, or because the author cannot quite put to words what he means and so he continues to apply words to paralinguistic elements? Thomas Ogden, along with Bollas, Grotstein, and in earlier times Searles, Greenson, and Kernbergthe latter two surreptitiouslyhave attempted to bring contemporary concepts to American audiences, primarily from the British object-relations school of psychoanalysis There is more Bion than orthodox Klein in Ogden's work, and unlike some other American writers, he even cites his predecessors' papers. He has a habit of coining words and phrases to explain previously noted analytical phenomena, which I find annoying, but this seems to be part of the tradition of being taken as a serious theorist. Perhaps Ogden feels that well-known concepts such as projective identification and developmental internal relational stages need a transatlantic West Coast working-through or renewal One of the most interesting aspects of Ogden's work is that he tends to write his thoughts as a series of clinical vignettes For example. The patient asks the analyst to repeat what has Just been said, then Ogden suggests to the patient that he might try to say something about the feelings around what has Just occurred, rather than trying to repeat the lost moment. This unconscious receptivity (reverie) involves the partial giving over of one's separate individuality to a third subject, a subject that is neither analyst nor analysand, but a third subjectivity unconsciously generated by the analytic pair To consistently offer oneself in this way is no small matter, it represents an emotionally draining undertaking in which the analyst and analysand each, to a degree, loses his mind Ogden speaks of the usefulness of conveying the goal of a fruitful analysis, which is to be differentiated from the illusory conception of a completed analysis The goal of a useful analysis is not only to reduce the complex transference distortions within our personalities but also to try to become more human rather than being static or merely reflective of the other It is the transference/counter-transference pairing, not simply the transference, that constitutes the psychological matrix generated in the analytical situation Ogden adds to Freud's dictum to simply listen, his advice to therapists to talk simply rather than speaking primarily in an ideological or metaphorical voice It has been my experience that the language of both the patient and analyst is dead when their use of language conveys certainty as opposed to tendency That form of analytic intervention discourse reflects that they are speaking with a borrowed voice and are themselves essentially mute (230) Ogden was reminded of Bion's comment to his analysand James Grotstein, after Grotstein responded to one of Bion's interpretations by saying, I understand Bion paused then calmly said, !Please try not to understand If you must superstand, circumstand, parastand, but please try not to understand" ( Grotstein 1990, personal communication, 208) Ogden's chapter on dream associations is controversial and brilliant, but perhaps also troublesome He states that as his experience grows, he feels less restricted about who should speak after the patient's dream is put forward in the session. Sometimes Ogden now gives his associations based
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on his own reveries/associations to the patient's dream or even on one of his own dreams, prior to hearing the patient's verbal associations' He notes that the patient's associations actually begin behaviourally upon arrival for the hour, and theorizes that because of the existence of the analytic third, both participants have equally valid and therapeutic elements to contribute to the immediate analytic situation This edges toward wild analysis, yet the empathic analyst's attuned selfdisclosure may propel an analysis forward when it conveys shared but previously unspoken unconscious issues It seems to me that some contemporary analysts, such as Owen Renik, as well as those who now call themselves relationalists (e g, Hoffman, Pizer) have slid down, or are on their way down, the slippery slope of shared subjective reality and selfdisclosure, based on their disillusionment with the concept of objective reality Similarly, spontaneous personal interventions by the intersubjectivists from the self-psychology school find little conflict in their patients because they ignore traditional metapsychological concerns, except as nihilistic concepts best avoided The analytic frame can be bent to the point that there is no patient, but only two individuals who mutually have discourse on their intersubjective space Ferenczi's new techniques (1924) were innovative but eventually led to the erosion of the analytic boundary constraints and opened the door for subsequent destructive acting-in. Of course, there is also the opposite state of conceptualizing transference distortions as being the only effective intervention in bringing about analytic change, with counter-transference never being spoken of or seen as a hindrance by the analyst This tends to yield no better results than the uncontrolled misalliances of the intersubjectivists. Holding the middle road of exploring the rich material of the analytic third (shared) reverieswhile respecting boundaries and role responsibility to make the patient's intrapsychic world more understandable and humanis Ogden's, and should be all analysts; quest This is an excellent collection of Thomas Ogden's papers. I believe it lacks an intermediary voice to bring together earlier theoretical concepts and his present technique, as well as a more confrontational and clarifying approach to his therapeutic handling of self-disclosures as an adjuvant to the patients' associations I highly recommend this book, both for candidates and practitioners It adds a fresh theoretical, neo-classically grounded outlook, and is a contemporary guide to clinical practice It is beautifully worded, much like the Frost poetry that intrigues him This newest work by Ogden is about the analytic struggle for and against using words to authenticate ourselves. The analytic task is to become aware of feelings and fantasies and then to be able to put them into words Later, movement towards self-conceptualization will enliven us and bear witness to those previously confusing and unspeakable inner-world experiences that need to find an authentic voice, rather than to manifest themselves through destructive unconscious behaviours and symptoms Reference 3 Ferenczi , S , and Rank , O. (1924) The Development of Psychoanalysis New York Nervous and
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