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\ \\'\\\ \~:<:~r~~t: Interview of FBI Special Ageii~.. ..

\t\\\ \~Tzy.e~r:~vent: Interview

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\. \\\ \ \ S~~ia"'A~t.ess::lssues: Access Limited to Dieter Snell, Raj De (source disclosure)
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W par~iJ,ants )~~1DmiSSi~~;':Ple~erS~1, Raj De

\ \.\ \ \1 '"\,,"'~~~~as woi~~l!.lO(th~talJor about 20 years. He started working for

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\ \.the ~ureau,as suppoi¥.,Jl!!rsonneJ in 4>(;nBel~'in J984. He worked surveillance in Los
\ \A,ngeJes from 1985 to"1991. In 199.1~ ...... ecame an FBI agent and was assigned to
\ ~~ S~ Francisco Fiel,fQlf!ce. He *pr .ed..bank ~o~beries for 5 years. He later worked
\'Yi~.hth~ Oakland homic1'4~"'~.askforce ...··J.n..~pr.i.1 199tJ ..... !was assigned to a domestic.
terrorism squad. By the enQ 'of 1998, hewas assigned to an international terrorism squad,
~~ppnsl'l'le for "~l Qaeda ari~.:Jh~Taliban. ··ije"\Y~~"9fficiall»F~assigned to the San Diego
Pj~l~ Office on Qctober 26, 2P.O·~. . \.. \.. ...... ......

\ \ \ During th~\~eek Of91l:i~aShOU~~'h~nting in s~ri{)iegO in anticipation

of~i~ reasslgnmenn When the ~~rred, he ~!Irrtl<d to San Fra,"tsco (Wh~re he
was stil] assigned) and was put on a::Jen-orism squadworking.Wl l leads:' ad
three ~ypes of assignmentswhile wor~i'ng for this squad: (l) t~ Absconder Apprehension
Initi,t'~v~, which involved tracking ill~g.al.,immjgrants post ~I.ll ;"(~) the Attorney General
InterYi'~~ Directive, which involved ini~rV~ewing any foreignstudents with visas similar
to th<!:9/1'1 hijackers; and ..(3) FD 71 leads.which involved f~llo~ing"~p citizen complaint
calls.' \ \ \~upervisor at this time was.John Sylvester. \... \... ""'"

\ \ \ \, ve \'" \::"'::"" onths after t~'~"9ii ..!tmtrs, He is the

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\ According. t tt-t-~a.---"""'1-a-s-a-w-a""""'_l~n-w"'!l'l~
~ ....---,..Jas sent to interv'".ie~·
\ said that he approached the FBl because his unc e ' tened to tell the 'F)31 that he
r-lwa.~ a member of Hezbollah. According t .. his uncle - named ..
~end~· st him because of something . ance. As

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it turned out uncle did in,...~
into the round this
time and inform t e authorities tha·L.Jw~~.,a '~ember of Hezbollah .

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un.!l~.I~~~W t,hathe had met
~:~I:~.~dto ~a~e ap?lygraph exam (one

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\'~~~~i~g ;61. ".~~.~~ ". ':::j. Jst;~~~~t~~... friend~'~ithl ~ho runs a
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\ 10caf,tl,ig~t...school. One dajf".ha4.·c~!le· .....:---... ndasked him to come over because
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'tWo A.abS in 'his o~e who wante yingIessons but who did speak
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~nglis~"': \ ..\, that 'these 1:\~dividual$.·w~?ted·tQ:~y'.big planes, and that he walked
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wo "kh~~kl.~heads~~.:~tq~r.ewas ~o~hing suspicious,
though)..... .... lso.informe .\, hat he had already provided this information to
the\FBI bef~re h~"t:,ais'~'''~is concerns a ~.t his unCle.:s·.aJ.~egati61'1(~tated that this
meeting was ...the ~ly contact he had withany of the 911..I~rs: onfirmed
that there was...no indicationof any othercontact between:~an t e ijackers other
than ii" couple ().~\ ': ute ..phone calls which m~st likely were 'used to coordinate the
initial·'~eeting. \ .: ,~gre~~:·~~.give a printout 'o'(~hese calls to Ric~ Kelly, who agreed
to provide a copy 0 e. iomrrnssion. ':::. .....

• \ Wren aSktd whe~e4 \···)~ended the ISIam;':"6;pterof San Di~~01

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\ stated tha ad once"~ eyent outside the mosque but he was not a regular
\ attendee. When asked ~bou!L---J~el~~i~nship with BaSnari:;6,0ted that FBI
rtershad been mqumng about'tP~l ·3 months ago: stated that .
ew Basnan by a different name' \, could not recall t e name) and thought
t at asnan had a reputation as a ladies' man. was not familiar with any rumors
that Basnan may, have been a Saudi intelligence officer.

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