For someone like jj outside reality does not make sense thats why in this time the modernest

turned in himself because he could trust no more the reality he wanted to create reality some agreed that maybe they can save something. The nonexistence of reality outside, in the world, made writers turn in themselves to seek for a truth or even to create this truth. With all the work that freud did about the mind etc unconsciousness id ego dreams etc in terms of its relation to time also. It influensed the age. Marx freud etc turned in.... That account for the use of internal monologue its an avengarne a subjective point of view ever sine the 18th started with 1700 .... The growth of europe etc there was the use of point of view subjectively or obectively 1inside a characters mind seen from without When the modernist came they took the subjective point of view and built on it for a theory of point of view (stream or consciousness) within. 1sub pofview: external characterisation In the realist novl it was a mode of characterisation it didnt have the important that it has with jj etc The realist narative thomas hardy, jen austain. The realist novel :sub point of view The modernist novel took this mode of cha and built it into a more focused use. The only the chara mind was seen fron within but also to allow the character himself to tell the story. The cha eustasia... She never got to have a say in the narrator even if she was a major cha and the sub point of view helped us understand her bettef to sympathisd better. The more u see a cha from within the more u sympathise with him. (the rhytorical fiction) subjective objective point of view distance etc symapth obj d The modernist addded certain ellements built it into a coherent point of view (pof) stream of consciensness interior monologue Interior monologue vs sub pof Theyre diff 2 the narator is the author himself who controls the cha 1 gives the narrative rights over to the cha omnisciense \ limited pof 1 for reasons of truth. In harmony with the writers conseption of what is true a modernest gives up the omnesciense and refuses to tell the reader to story. He allows ghe cha to tell the story in the first or third person. It does not determine the omnisciense or not ex stephen as a center of consciensness. The use of spof in the interior monologue is deff from the spov The writer. It is limited bc it could be a. Hild or a mad person a blind one etc limited pov The interior monologue also is used in poetry. A dramatic form of tellin. Youre shown youfe not told the story because by followin the mind you are involved in a shown... The im is used also because it is a dramatic speech representation its like a dialogue said by one person. "once apun a time..." directly we have so thinkin aloud. Im: soliliqui. Sb talkin aloud. Spov has a purposd of characterisation and the im is a dramatic speech allowin the cha to perform his right to tell the story. As a center of conscieousness his mind. The narative act in the artist takes two forms. 1 interior monologue and dialogue Im is a firmal principle. The portrait is not an omniscien. Not realist. We are shown the action alive in sb mind. In fact we have these 2 speech of representationim dialogue. How much stephen is jj? (distence) If its an autobio then were witnessin the growth of jj mind if not jj would be ironisin patronisin a portrait and not the real portrait. At that stage oh his career jj is still lookin for himself and a theory of art. He thought hed mature more thus considrr it just as a portraitWhy

is jj usin the im Bchis real conserne is with a type of reality truth. Meanin etc what is life????? Its a halo..... smte stephen doesnt understand why he does certain things over and over again without totally understandin. Woolf says life becomes diff if u see things this way. Jj search and analysis to find a new type of reality. Assosiations of paterns from childhood to teen. Only as they show a dialectic prosess.... (dialogue. Exchange wich is diolotican and analytical) this asssisiative patterns they show a dialectic prosess by which steves life takes shape and has meanin. The novel is about meanin which exist only in those pattern that take shape gradually in steves mind to grow up and become more prominant in each stage. The most prominan form is his aesthetic theory vivanelle. In the end it takes shape. Its an aesthetic reason behind usin monologue bc jj is conserned with steves mind which represents a dialectic process of growth it takes shape gradually throu assosiations pattern of images not throu a content that the writer imposes. Hardys cha move like puppets. They have no say. Unlike stephen. And jj refuses to interfer and comment and direct. He lets the mind control. Bc the modernist find it more aproximate to meaanin. It is democratic. Norms. Bourgoi mind is refused by the modernist we have a fresh version of reality takin place in the mind of stephen. How much is a portait real for jj? How much is it an abstractic portrait? Talkin about influences. He was lookin fie ne ways to find meanin one of them is te impersonality of art. Flauber a founder of modernism talked aboutimpersonality which is the duty of the novalist to absent himself totally from the work not to comment or anythin. Just to say the truth as it is. Jj when he said that a novalist should be like god in his creation. He should be felt everywhere but seen nowhere the artist should not show himself throu commentary throu the use of time space.... He should let the cha be and let tve reader define whos the hero etc ts eliot taled about that too. Tradition and the individial....(important) redidinin art and its emotion to find meanin in it. Hamlet (objective corelative). Impersonality. This isbthe life if jj but he chooses in an impersonal way. Impersonality in art mean. The indivi and tra: thd relation between an author and his ancestors. He analysis the relation between the present and past. 1 a dialectic relation between past and present. When a writer chooses to use a myth etc he should enter in a dialogue with that tradition. Bc it is not somethin handed to us to eat but to analyseand he speaks about the pastless of the present and the presentless of the past. The past should allow us to understqnd the present better and the present should do the same. All kind of tradition. 2 impersonal theory of poetry. The poet should make use of toten feelings comin together. The mind of the poet used from a sertain period... Love as it has been defined from keats etc we have a knowledge of ut handed down to us. Eliot says that emotions and thouts are like 2diff gazes and the mind of the poet like platnuim. The piece of platinuim allows the gazes to unify without the platinium (impersonal) bein afffected. The poets mind remain unafected from thoughts and emotions. The artict can feel love etc but it should not appear in his art bc it is impersonal. It is only when he manages to imper.. His emotions etc that it can become artistic. Romantic wway.(from crude to artist...) eliot said that emotions cant be translated into words but only The artist can only call for that emotion by usin situations etc that are corelative to that emotion. Objective correlative it is a sum of situations or objects that cprrelate the emotion. It is not the emotion itself bc it should not be communicated directly in art because it should be impersonal. The artist call for emotions throu things that are correlative to it. Help us see feel taste that emotion. How much does jj say about himself in a portrait? We can think of a portrait as bein a part based from jj life. Hes irish livee the religious conflicts, there truth in a portait of life but jj chose to say it throu an aesthetic theory. (impersonal theory of poetry eliot). Throu 3 stages

1 distinguishin it from the wholenes 2 analyse i in part part of religion sex etc 3 see the degree of harmony. To whqt extent do the part fit together harmoniosly. They dont fit. 3 to allow the portrait to come throu. Manifestation. Epiphany. Jj will draw himself from that and tell it in an imperdonal way. His own experiense is not the one we see. No no no but how things helped his mind to cope with reality (religious political etc)and meanin. -24 To what extend should we take it seriously? Ex mornin at a window: the emotion there is disgust and anger. The city between ww1 and ww2 he doesnt say anythin about his feelin of disgust but he shows a number of things as theyre shown to him. (objective correlative) things he describes dorrelate to feelin of disgust. Yes yiu can translate feelinggs in art by allowin people to feel it themselves. And tast it. The purpose of art is to make u hear. To make u feel. To make u see. A poem which is human and universal. In ch 1 "by thinking of things you could understand them" Each ch. Has an epiphany. But there are other smaller epiphanies. And thise epiphanies are part of a process o thinkin. And while thinkin stephen build. There are phases in which joyce put stephen in conflicts between outsiwe forces. And stephen has problems understandin them. And by thinkin about them he resolves them and when thats done we know exatly when he does that because he feels happy for a time. At each end of a chapte there is release them. Its a mind workin throu a nonsene reality. And its searchin for a syntheses There is meanin. It is by thinkin about it that you can come up with meanin