Numtaz A. Ahmaui, PhB Reseaich Scholai, Nelbouine 0niveisity, Austialia
-vBR-IBN-Naich 2u14 The puipose of this publication is to unueistanu how watei conflict is inteipieteu acauemically by watei expeits anu scholais anu unueistanu how those uisciplines can be auopteu in an Afghan context anu unuei what ciicumstance. This ieview incluues acauemic liteiatuie anu ievision about watei settlement inteinationally anu in iegion i.e. Baglauesh, Inuia, Pakistan anu Cential Asian Republic (CAR). Effoits aie maue to ieview acauemic liteiatuie about how watei conflicts aie settleu inteinationally anu locally. Acauemic ieviews aie also uone about legal anu tians-boiuei aspect of watei conflicts, key stakeholueis, specific events anu vaiious tiiggeis. In acauemic liteiatuie conflict uoesn't necessaiily mean an aimeu conflict anu violence, but it can be inteipieteu anu an instance foi uisagieement ovei iight anuoi uistiibution of any natuial iesouice incluuing watei iesouice. Accoiuing to least two actois tiy to, at the same time, gain access to the same set of iesouices "Wallensteen (2uu2). "A conflict is a social situation in which at least two actois tiy to gain access to the same set of iesouices as the otheis want." Nany watei expeits think that conflict is not always a negative phenomenon, in many instances it can be seen as an oppoitunity to biing about a haimony anu syneigy among many laige gioups in the affecteu societies. Accoiuing to Favie, R., anu Kamal, u.N., 2uu4 the watei tieaty between }oiuan anu Isiael is a goou example of how peace anu tiust can be cieateu if the conflict is iuentifieu on time anu uiscussions aie maue in ieasonable anu iesponsible way. In the mean time they emphasis on the significance of collaboiative auministiation anu key stakeholueis' ioles foi settling uown watei conflicts. They believe foi moie sustainable iesolution of watei conflicts its veiy impoitant to iuentify the key stakeholueis by consiueiing the type anu natuie of the conflict anu caiefully ieview theii ioles befoie they aie engageu in the iesolution piocess.
The }oiuan iivei basin anu Yaimouk Rivei hau the potential to cause seiious challengeu between the two nations because both countiies viitually believe that it has been theii watei. Foi long time they coulu not get to a consensus iegaiuing who will take how much watei anu unuei what ciicumstances. It was not a win-win situation foi both countiies, because they have not only wasteu theii seasonal suiplus watei, it has cause seiious enviionmental impacts on both siues. Finally in 1994 both countiies iealizeu the significant of enteiing to peace piocess in which watei shaiing was a ciucial element, anu by that they announceu to shaie theii seasonal watei this challenge was settleu in a iesponsible way. This was an unique situation wheie the bilateial agieement was signeu only between the two nations, anu foi ceitain political obseivations othei iipaiian stats i.e. Palestine, Syiia anu Lebanon weie not pait of the agieement. Bespite the fact paiticipation of these thiee countiies woulu have maue this agieement moie coheient anu encompassing, but Favie, R., anu Kamal still believe it was a uecent achievement at least foi the two countiies.
The tieaty between the two countiies fuithei elaboiateu on how much watei they will extiact fiom each iivei anu baseu on what conuitions. This incluueu ceitain aspects of using technology to optimize theii watei use, but this has been cleaily inuicateu on the agieement uocument. This aigument cleaily uesciibes that fact that any use of technology to boost up the extiaction of watei shoulu be incluueu in tieaty scope of woik. In case of Afghanistan 0zbekistan is alieauy using technology foi using watei fiom Amu basin, howevei it has nevei been uiscusseu in any official uocuments that focuses on watei tieaties anu aie agieement of its natuie.
Anothei impoitant aspect accoiuing to Kamal is consistency anu fiimness of committee (watei commission) in ielation with continuing coopeiation anu consensus foi continuity anu sustaining the achievements maue uuiing the settlement piocess. The iesolutions must be fiimly uefineu that it cannot be hampeieu by slight inconveniences i.e. uiought, watei shoitage, minoi changes in political uiiections etc. I case of Afghanistan it an inteiesting scenaiio, because only uuiing last thiee uecaues theie weie many phases of significant changes in political uiiections. Buiing Between 197us-198us Russians immensely influenceu the Afghan politics. Both Afghanistan anu CAR (Cential Asia Republic) enjoyeu pietty amicable anu equitable uistiibution of Amu basin watei, howevei it has in tuin hau a giave impact on the Afghanistan ielations with Iian anu Pakistan. Both Pakistan anu Iian apposeu Russians invasion anu theiefoie calleu off all its uiplomatic ties with Afghanistan. This has in tuin maue the pievious watei agieements invaliu anu meaningless. As a iesult of this Afghanistan foi long time uiu not have any agieement on Kabul Rivei basin anu Baiiiuue iivei basins.
Itay Fischhenulei emphasis looking at the watei conflict as a stanu-alone issues, anu must not be linkeu to othei acute anu chionic pioblems between the iipaiian countiies. By uoing this it make the piocess pietty intangible, ambiguous anu immeasuiable. In Afghanistan watei conflict has nevei been consiueieu as a stanu-alone issue anu often was mixeu with othei conflicts anu has always been influenceu by evolving politics.
Accoiuing to Itay Fischhenulei, Anothei impoitant aspect of looking at watei conflict settlement as a fixeu commouity veisus a uiminishing iesouice. In watei conflict iesolution piocess he apposes the zeio-sum thinking theoiy anu suggests that the fiamewoik foi the iesettlement of watei conflicts shoulu caiefully consiuei ceitain cioss-cutting aspects that may iesult in inciease anuoi uepletion of the any shaieu watei that has causeu tensions between two anuoi moie iipaiian countiies.
Coopeiation is a impoitant teim eveiy time a shaieu watei is mentioneu in an acauemic ieview. Theie aie so many tieaties among uiffeient countiies, but not eveiy tieaty has been efficient anu sustainable unless theie is a sense of coopeiation anu a commitment foi woiking togethei. Isiael anu }oiuan is a uecent example of how coopeiation can be a win-win situation when it comes to shaiing watei }oiuan has a high seasonal flow anu uoes not have stoiage capacity; theiefoie they give the suiplus watei to Isiael anu in ietuin Isiael will ielease the watei to }oiuon uuiing summei. With this not only watei was not wasteu, but the }oiuon ieceiveu the almost the same amount of watei uuiing the low flow season fiom Isiael. Like }oiuan Afghanistan has a high seasonal flow in summei, anu with no stoiage capacity. If the countiy enteis to some kinu of agieement with the neighbois that they can use the suiplus watei anu ietuin it to Afghanistan uuiing the low flow months. Some neighbois i.e. Pakistan might not be able to compensate watei with watei, but they can still appieciate the watei Afghanistan is giving them anu ietuin the favoi one way oi anothei. In case of Amu iivei basin Afghanistan is locateu both in uppei stieam anu uown stieam anu theiefoie, the seasonal watei shaiing between }oiuan anu Isiael is a goou example to be applieu heie.
Accoiuing to Favie, R. 2uu4 the agieements on watei use between }oiuan anu Isiael took place when both countiies weie almost in wai, howevei they acteu iesponsibly anu settleu the uisputeu watei in moie amicable mannei. Bespite the fact theie weie seiious political glitches between the two nations back then, but its one of the most successful anu sustainable watei shaiing agieement between the two nations. Accoiuing to Favie, this watei agieement latei on paveu the way foi settling uown many othei chionic issues between the two nations. 0ne ieason Afghanistan coulu not settle its shaieu watei with neighboiing countiies is uue to evolving political tension between those countiies. Those tensions have always unueimineu anu pusheu back any emeiging intensions of setting on the table of negotiations anu to finu out a long teim solution foi its shaieu watei. A lot of watei expeits uesciibe watei as potential foi tiiggeiing fuithei conflicts, howevei in case of }oiuan anu Isiael it has been the apposite. It's lateially about how watei conflict is conceiveu anu who is engageu in uiscussing the pioblem fiom both enus. Theiefoie the iole of stakeholueis in iesolving the watei tension is of a gieatei immense.
Anothei impoitant element foi moie sustainable watei conflict settlement is tiust builuing anu consistency in abiuing by the contents of the agieement. Accoiuing to Favie, ieaching to a consensus about any shaieu watei is one of the steps towaius settling uown a watei conflict. Remaining honest, sticking to the piotocol, continueu coopeiation, patience infoimation shaiing aie the key aspects that make the watei tieaties moie conciete, sustainable anu long lasting.
Anothei inteiesting element about }oiuan anu Isiael watei agieement is no only watei foi watei, but in some instance lanu foi watei anu oi maybe money foi watei. Isiael extiacteu }oiuanian unuei giounu watei in south anu in ietuin Isiael offeieu them lanu. This is the most applicable scenaiio that can be applieu between Afghanistan anu Pakistan, because the hyuiological anu physical location of Kunai Rivei, Afghanistan can give watei to Pakistan but the favoi can not be ietuineu as "watei foi watei, but it ceitainly be compensateu as lanu foi watei as in the case of }oiuan anu Isiael.
0ne impoitant analysis maue by Bauge anu Ellingsen (2uuS: p. S14) inuicates a veiy ciucial aspect in looking at watei conflicts anuoi watei ciisis. Be believes that countiies with moie uegiaueu watei iesouices aie moie vulneiable than otheis. With the global waimingclimate change, population giowth anu bioken infiastiuctuie, Afghanistan is giauually getting among those countiies with uegiaueu watei iesouices (both suiface anu unueigiounu), anu this can potentially cause moie watei conflicts anu ciisis between the neighbois.
0ne impoitant featuie of my stuuy is to look at watei conflict iesolution piocess unuei tiibal anu local setup. Nany watei expeits fiimly believe that involvement of local bouies i.e. communities; tiibes make the watei conflict settlement moie sustainable anu effective. Baechlei, Spillmann anu Suliman consiuei this anu instiument to tiansfoim the conflict iesolutions appioach that woulu bettei fit the local context fiom wheie most of the time the conflict oiiginates. Neuhane Tauesse's (2uu2) equally appieciate the local watei settlement mechanism, howevei he emphasis on fact that it shoulu not be lookeu at fiom typical sanu point anu oi geneiic uefinition. Be thinks the coue of conuuct, ethnical stanuaius, ieligions aspects aie moie impoitant to be iealizeu fiist. If the engaging communities shaie the same wateisheu with shaieu ethnical values, cultuial anu ieligions aspects, than this is the best case scenaiio anu accoiuing to him the chances aie gieatei that they will get to mutual consensus consiueiing that they have some shaie values anu piinciples that can be pietty instiumental to settle watei conflicts moie efficiently anu time. Bowevei, if engaging communities caiiies vaiious cultuial anu ieligion values than theie is always neeu foi ueteimining a miuule giounu anu to uo that involvement of thiiu paity is neeueu. Accoiuing to Neuhane Tauesse's (2uu2) the thiiu paity shoulu always be stiongei than the engaging two paities, he given an example of two inuigenous tiibes in Ethiopia who weie engageu in a conflict ovei the use of watei.
Both tiibes hau a iich tiauition of settling uown conflicts, howevei they weie not shaiing any ieligious anu tiauitional values, anu this maue it bit uifficult foi both siue to ieach to consensus. To iesolve theii watei conflicts a thiiu paity in this case goveinment was involveu who's iole has been impoitant to ueteimine a miuule giounu foi both siue anu settle it in close confoimity with local piinciple anu othei foimal instiuments. 0ne of my ieseaich aiea is to look at watei conflicts in Afghanistan wheie both local anu goveinment-leu iesolution takes place.
Along those lines, Wolf not only appieciate inuigenous methous foi the watei conflict iesolutions, but he also fiimly believe that it has gieatei impacts on tians-boiuei anuoi inteinational watei uisputes. Be gives example of how effective the local methous weie in settlement of watei conflicts between Beibeis in high Atlas Noiacco anu Beuouin in the Negev ueseit of Isiael. Be thinks if these appioaches aie auopteu in laigei inteinational scale it can be quite instiumental. Be uoesn't aigue that these appioaches aie to be ieplicateu, his synopsis is to auopt them in away it is ueteimineu as pait of the iesolutions piocess. 0n the othei hau Teuase, appieciate local appioaches foi the settlement of watei conflicts in local context anu on a smallei scale, but he uoesn't think it will play a vital iole when it comes to inteinational watei conflicts with tieaties, technical papei woik, engineeiing uesigns, etc. In Afghanistan local appioaches foi watei conflict iesolutions has nevei been lookeu at as potential element to be auopteu in conflict iesolution piocess with the neighboiing countiies.
Local Stiuggles in a ulobal Context (2uu4) euiteu by }ohn N. Bona- hue anu Baibaia Rose }ohnston pioviues fuithei insights on stiuctuie of local watei settlement setup anu gives impoitant of the stiuctuie combination by keeping the minu the iepiesentation fiom all inuigenous tiibes anu highlights the impoitance of genuei balance paiticulaily when the watei conflicts is ovei uiinking watei use. This makes a lot of sense in case of Afghanistan, because in iuial Afghanistan women anu giils aie piimaiily engageu in watei collection activities, theiefoie ought to be engageu in settlement of tensions ovei the use of uiinking watei, but it has nevei been the case. They also make some examples of how some mining anu inuustiial activities can cause seiious watei uepletions that can cause local conflict ovei the use of theii scaieu watei iesouice. They give example of 0SA, Nexico, Bonuuias wheie these activities have contiibuteu to watei conflicts anu tensions among the communities. With many mining piojects lineu up in Afghanistan, theie a gieatei potential that these activities will ceitainly cieate moie tension anu conflicts, unless piopei measuies anu coiiectives steps aie iuentifies upfiont. In oiuei to mitigate watei conflicts anuoi ensuie pievention of seiious conflicts uue to watei use, many watei expeits speak of Integiateu Watei Resouice Nanagement (IWNP). Accoiuing to Rinauuo, uaiin 2uuS the intensity of watei conflicts has always been moie seivei in aieas wheie theie has not been anu IWRN piactices compaie to those with IWRN. Be uesciibes IWRN as syneigy alieauy built among the engaging communities. By syneigy he means, social paiticipation, tiust builuing, institutional capacity, technical unueistanuing. Theiefoie with all these factois alieauy exist, if any conflict iaises uuiing the uistiibution of watei, its being iesolveu pietty amicably many steps towaius conflict iesolutions aiea alieauy taken with the IWNP in place. Nany watei expeits' emphasis on the impoitance of institutional memoiy anu capacity builuing foi moie optimal anu sustainable use of a shaieu watei bouy. They also appieciate local values anu coue of conuuct in ielation to the allocation anu uistiibution of shaieu watei both on upstieam anu uownstieam of any watei channel. Beach et al. 2uuu equally highlights shaiing ieligious, tiibal anu ethnical coues in uistiibution of watei on local level. Be also mentions the local fine system that applies pietty much on the communities they iesiue on the uppei steam of a watei canal foi example. If theie is a local agieement that the uppei stieam will use the watei of any canal foi 4 uays anu the watei will be use foi the uown stieam communities foi anothei S uays, if any violation of oveiuse of the watei by the uppei stieam happens, theie neeu to be some kinu of penalty anu fine systems in place, so that the communities aie awaie of this penalty anu will not use the canal watei uuiing S-4 uays ueuicateu to uownstieam communities. In case of Afghanistan the National Soliuaiity Piogiam (NSP) has intiouuceu few IWNP mouels, which ievealeu to be pietty instiumental in iesolving few conflicts uue to use of watei in Eastein Afghanistan (Kabul Rivei Basin). Some watei expeits in this context Rinauuo, uaiin 2uuS fuithei emphasize the impoitance of paiticipation in an ongoing uialogue foi the iesolution of watei conflicts anu tensions. Be equally echos the impoitance of paiticipation fiom vulneiable anu uepiiveu populations in oiuei to make it moie effective anu sustainable. Be specifically highlights the ioles of women, youth an ethnically anuoi socially maiginalizeu population. In Afghanistan (stuuy aiea) this is unfoitunately not the case, watei conflicts aie settleu uown only by people with moie influence in the community, i.e. lanuloiu, wailoius anu Aibabs. Women have nevei been pait of watei settlement piocess in Afghanistan. Accoiuing to Beach et al. 2uuu anothei ciucial element in looking at local watei conflicts is the use of mouein technology anu mateiials. In local setup accoiuing to him any conciete anuoi ieinfoicement woik must be uiscusseu upfiont anu mutual agieement has to be sought befoie engaging in any kinu of ieinfoicement effoit on the uppei stieam of any watei channel. This equally applies to any tians-boiei watei that is shaieu by two oi moie countiies. Accoiuing to inteinational watei tieaties no iipaiian countiy can uo any ieinfoicement anuoi use heaving mouein mateiials on theii siue of the shaieu watei bouy unless its equally applieu on the othei siue anuoi a peimission oi appioval is sought befoie making that choice. In Afghanistan (Ny stuuy aiea) this is anu has been a seiious issue between Afghanistan anu 0zbekistan. 0zbekistan has uone tiemenuous ieinfoiceu cement woik on the othei siue of the Amu basin without putting Afghanistan in pictuie. This has iesulteu in uestabilizing Amu iiveibanks on the Afghan siue anu washeu thousanus of hectaies of agiicultuie lanu on the Afghan siue. Accoiuing to Kiessel 2uu1 in many local context of unueiuevelopeu countiies watei is not uistiibuteu anuoi settleu baseu on how much hectaies of lanu is uown stieam oi upstieam, but its uistiibuteu baseu on how many men an guns each tiibe has. Its basically an inteiesting ieview that watei is uistiibuteu not baseu on the neeu anu in noimal calculation hectaies of lanu etc., but base on the numbei of guns anu aimeu people. Kiessel uesciibes this uangeious, but accept the fact that it's the ieality anu may continue uown thiough the yeais. 0n the othei hanu (Kiessel 2uu1) highlights the concepts of equity anu piotection of iights when a tiibe with many men anu guns shaie watei with the tiibe that is ielatively weakei anu moie vulneiable. Be uoes believe that stiong tiibes anuoi communities usually have the leveiage to be seiveu fiist anu theii neeus has to be fulfilleu fiist, but the local values anu coues caiefully aiticulates the iights of vulneiable population when it comes to the uistiibution of watei. Nost geogiapheis anu scientists stuuying such agieements have assumeu a state centialization of watei management. They think watei conflict settlement vial local setup coulu be efficient in some instance, howevei they think in most cases it can biing about confusion, tensions anu can potentially colliue with national anuoi iegional uisciplines anu tieaties. Although they appieciate how ciucial anu instiument the iole of key stakeholueis is, but the mean time they wain about involvement of too many stakeholueis especially when a watei conflict is iesolveu thiough people fiom uiffeient backgiounus, intellectual level, so shaieu chemistiy.
They uige the impoitance of unifieu appioach top to bottom that can iesolve any watei conflicts iegaiuless of theii size, natuie, location, anu magnituue. In case of Afghanistan, these synopsis may not be a goou way on how to tackle watei conflicts, because like many othei countiies with iich cultuie anu tiibal set up the involvement of local leaueis in watei conflicts settlement is pietty ciucial anu efficient. In ielation to the teim shaieu chemistiy anu euucationoi level of intellectualness, it can be one of concein when the conflicts is iesolveu thiough the involvement of centialpiovincial goveinment anu the local Watei 0sei Association, but a lot of watei expeits in Afghanistan believe this has been woiking quite well thus fai.
0n the othei hanu Nichel Callon aiticulates the appiopiiateness of key stakeholueis when settling uown a watei conflict. Be iefeis to numeious uebates when hyuiologist anu watei engineeis believe watei conflict is a technical issues, anu has to be iesolveu by the technician who unueistanu not only the legal aspects of the watei use but in the meantime must be quite cognizant of its technical aspect. With this they aie claiming any key uecision in ielation to the settlement of watei conflicts neeu to be uone by the watei engineeis anu hyuiologist. Nichel Callon fuithei suppoit this iuea, howevei he emphasis on uelegation of the legal aspects of the watei uispute iesolution to the state authoiities fiist anu aftei looking the at the legal aspects of the conflicts it can then be iefeieeu to the scientist who can then pioviue theii technical comments anu obseivations anu the uecision alieauy maue by the state authoiities will be aujusteu keeping in minu the technicality of the selecteu watei conflict.
Legal aspects of watei management of any natuie anu size aie gieatly acknowleugeu by watei expeits anu piofessionals aiounu the woilu. Accoiuing to Bennys, Chiistian, 2uuS legal fiamewoiks, legislations anu laws seive as the guiuing piinciples foi the settlement of watei conflicts as they aiise. Bowevei he fiimly believe that the laws anu legislations ought to be foimulateu iealistically anu in close confoimity with the giounu iealities. Be gave an examples of a watei conflict in Ethiopia which that has continueu foi many yeais uespite the fact theie has been numbei of legislations anu legal fiamewoiks in place. Nany watei expeits in this context suppoit the iuea of weak institution anu impiopeily foimulateu legislations that not only suppoit the watei conflict settlement piocess, but in the mean time it cieates moie ambiguity, confusion anu unueimines the alieauy local conflict iesolution mechanisms. Along these lines, Benny fuithei emphasis on the legislation piocess anu believe on the impoitance of who is involveu in foimulation, amenument anu ievision of those pioceuuies. Be fiimly believe that those involve in those piocess must be cognizant of the ieligion, social anu cultuial aspects befoie those piinciples aie tuineu into a legislation. If the legislations foi the use watei aie not caiefully ciafteu, it can always be oveilookeu anu people might chose stiengtheneu theii local institutions anu to them foi the settlement of theii watei tioubleu watei anu this can fuithei complicateu the settlement piocess. Bennys, Chiistian, 2uuS. This a veiy thoughtful aigument in case of Afghanistan. Watei legislation in Afghanistan is veiy weakly ciafteu. Accoiuing to the watei inuepenuent commission this uocument is still unuei constiuction anu its in veige of being substantially amenueu. 0nless caiefully ieviseu this uocument cannot seive as piincipleu legal uocument to iesolve the watei conflicts on local level. It can be ielatively instiumental to look at the watei issues on the inteinational level, but on the local level its still pietty immatuie anu iequiie substantial ievisions anu amenument befoie it tuins into a law. uleick 2uu6 on a specific note highlights the impoitance of unifoimity in watei management laws anu legislations between two countiies while settling uown watei conflicts. Similaiity in watei management uisciplines between two iipaiian countiies makes it easiei to get to a consensus veisus if the two countiies have vaiious laws anu legislations foi theii uomestic anu inteinational watei use. In case of Afghanistan it's a meaningful uiscussion because Afghanistan watei law anu legislation is in many ways similai to the watei management piactices in neighboiing couitieis, theiefoie it gives such uecent leveiage to Afghanistan in oiuei to uiscuss any watei conflict with its neighbois. Nany watei expeits anu hyuiologists uesciibe watei pioblems as an oppoitunity foi tackling othei chionic state pioblems, howevei they still emphasize on the unifoimity of watei management appioaches among two anuoi moie iipaiian states. They gave an example of Palestine anu Isiael watei issues, uespite the fact the two countiies have been engageu in may phases of political glitches anu even clashes, but uue to the fact that both countiies hau a state contiol watei management mechanisms, watei has nevei attiibuteu to the escalation of any conflict between the two countiies. This thoughtful aigument makes one thing veiy cleai that in oiuei to ieach to a consensus on issues ielateu to the uistiibution anuoi allocation of watei, a common eveiy thing i.e. ieligion, cultuie, system has a gieatei impact in the shoit teim long iun. Attia 2uuu anu some othei watei expeits uesciibe tians-boiuei watei conflicts as an unique watei conflict which is highly politicizeu anu the iole of local watei management appioaches anu uiscipline is not often consiueieu. Be highlights the ioles of majoi iegional actois, incoipoiations anu technociats pietty ciucial anu instiuments. Be believes watei conflict settlement on tians bounuaiy levels is moie sophisticateu anu political compaie to the typical uomestic watei ciisis. Though he uoes not unueimine local watei conflict settlement appioaches in this context, but he fiimly believes that in foi the settlement of tians-boiuei watei conflicts the selection of key stakeholueis, appioaches anu pioceuuies must be set aftei full cognizance of its socio- political implications anu most piefeiably a thoiough backgiounu stuuy. In case of Afghanistan (Ny stuuy iegion) tians-boiuei watei conflicts aie not only big time politicizeu, but S plus uecaues of wai makes it moie blaie anu complicateu. Buiing the yeais of wai Afghans hau to tackle many othei uaunting challenges anu foi them tians-bounuaiy watei has nevei been a piioiity. Now that theie is a legitimate goveinment with S N + iefugees ietuineu home the goveinment anu the people have iealizeu that they neeu theii watei. Aftei using Afghanistan watei foi moie than thiity yeais without any agieement anu tieaty, its pietty unusual foi the neighbois to speak to a new shaieholuei who they thought was not pait of the ueal anymoie.