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A Weekly Newspaper Issue 192, Nov. 2-6 , 2009

Life in Zambia Invite to Write Five Minutes with. . . Interview by Krystal Corpus Christi Student Senate Meeting
Leedy Challenge Notes
Fellow seminary
Middler Jeff Reporter Christian Reporter Krystal Leedy Student group Corpus Student Senate makes
student Melea White,
Saddington, Junior Schmidt catches three interviews Homiletics Christi invites the their notes public. See
who currently lives and
Amanda Robinson and people and asks them Professor Rev. Dr. seminary community minutes of their
works in Zambia,
Dual Degree student five questions. Kristin Saldine. Find to involve themselves “summit” and of the
shares her reflections
Amber Reber reply to out why in social justice issues. 10/27 meeting.
about her life in Luska.
the invitation to write.

Pages 1-2 Page 4 Page 8-9

Page 6 Page 14 & 15
Pages 1-3, 5, 11-12

Life is about
I know that people have different ideas about a white
person hiring someone from a different ethnic group for a
job like housekeeping. Some believe that one is merely
Relationships: providing employment for a person in need, others
believe that one is feeding into the system of racism, and
yet others fall somewhere in-between.
Reflections from Zambia
I am constantly thinking about what my racial status and/
Melea White is a Senior MDiv/MSSW dual degree student currently
completing her studies in Luska, Zambia. or privilege does in any given situation, so I tend to fall
more in line with the idea that hiring a person from any
Some American friends who were staying on the campus group perpetuates negative racial stereotypes (and the fact
of Justo Mwale Theological University College in Lusaka, that living quarters for the house help, which is often on
Zambia, left in August. They offered to let me stay in their the house owner’s land, is referred to as the “servants’
house until the woman replacing them comes in quarters” here does not help). This does not mean that I
November (so I could save some money and watch after think everyone should agree with me – I understand that
the house). Their only request was that I keep their other people simply want to provide someone in need
housekeeper, a Zambian woman, on for the two months I with a job, and I respect this decision.
live here.
Needless to say, when I was asked to keep their
Those of you who know me would know that I considered housekeeper on, I was incredibly uncomfortable. I was
this a terrible request. happy to help this woman out, so initially I thought about
just paying her and telling her not to come and clean, but
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then realized that this could easily be misunderstood, and
did not want her thinking I did not trust her or want her
in the house.
Then I thought I had come up with the perfect solution.
My friend told me that the housekeeper could not read or
write because she stopped attending school at grade four. Now two months into my seminary journey, I am still
SO, I decided that I would have her help me learn Nyanja
and I would help her learn to read – I would pay her for
helping me and teach her to read along the way.
With this idea in mind, I decided that I would talk to her different ways.
about my idea the first day she was at the house.
I was so disappointed when I discovered that she speaks
very little English. There was no way we could
communicate well enough to teach each other as much as
I had hoped we would.
I realized in that moment that I was a huge jerk. What
was I thinking? I was just assuming that she would
gratefully accept my offer to educate her. Even though I
was uncomfortable with her ‘working for me,’ wasn’t it
just as racist for me to think that I, an educated white
woman, could just swoop in and educate her, which I was
essentially doing to make myself feel better?
In the time we’ve been together, though, we have formed
a relationship. We are able to communicate relatively
well now, and have shared many things with each other.
Two weeks ago, she taught me some Nyanja sayings and
I taught her the English alphabet.
Last week, she taught me some things in the garden.
Joyfully, I have been able to pass on greetings from her
previous employers/friends, who left Zambia, which is
very special to her. In the end, I have learned much more
from her than she has from me. But isn’t that how it
always goes?!
Indeed, life is about relationships. It is about letting them of faith working for justice.” I feel blessed to be able to
form over time, and waiting until there is appropriate visit different houses of worship, to pray with people
space to teach and learn from one another.
-Melea White congregations—their joys, frustrations, and concerns.
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Divine Mystery
Amanda Robinson is a Unitarian Universalist Junior MDiv student
and native to the Austin Region.
feeling very welcomed at APTS. That welcome is one of
the reasons I chose to come here. Another is that I didn’t
want to go to a school where everybody thinks just like
me; I wanted to be challenged to think and grow in
Now that I am here, I am enjoying my classes and finding
that the professors are genuinely passionate, not just
about their subjects, but also about what we are all doing
here. They believe that what they do—and what we do—
matters, and I appreciate that, even if I don’t always
believe in the same way that they do.
I come from traditions that honor and recognize God in
and through many forms, names, and religions. In the
same way that I am known to different people in different
ways: daughter, sister, wife, mother, friend, student, etc.,
God is known to different people in different ways:
Rama, Shiva, Jesus, Buddha, Yahweh, Allah, etc.
The practices that people use to connect and interact with
divinity are different, too—study, meditation, prayer,
chanting, magic—but they are the same in that they are
all expressions of humanity reaching out and opening up
to divinity.
Through my work, I have the great privilege to talk to
and meet people of faith from different denominations
and religious traditions who are working on justice issues
in their congregations and communities.
I work for an interfaith education and advocacy
organization called Texas Impact, whose motto is “people
over meals, and to listen to people’s stories about their
Regardless of the denomination or the religion, the
challenges and joys of being in community are the same.
Whenever I find myself in a house of worship for the first
time, I feel like a kid in a candy store; I love to explore
these spaces that are central to the community, spaces
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that are both functional and sacred. I venture into the
sanctuary and try to get a feel for the worship space. I
wander down hallways and peer into classrooms. I locate
the nursery and smile at the bright, cheery spaces people
create for their youngest members.
I think the reason is simple. We’re really glad to have
visitors here. We want people to check out our
community and see if it’s right for them. It’s not the place
for everybody, but I truly believe that it’s the best place on
earth if you’re meant to be here.

It is pretty clear to me that all religious communities are
groups of people who come together intentionally to
serve each other, God (however She is known there), and
the world the best way they can. And each congregation
is a beautiful, amazing thing.
For me, it was perfect. I wanted a place where I felt like
part of a big family, where I could live on-campus with
my fellow students, where I could get support, love and
motivation to be my best. (And being back in Austin
didn’t hurt matters.)

At this moment of my life, I feel like I am in the place that
I am supposed to be right now, lack of sleep
notwithstanding. And I think this is why I find myself
more easily moved to tears lately—they are tears of joy
and beauty, you see. My religious background, job,
family, and seminary experience are conspiring together
to reveal the infinite beauty, expanse, and variety of
divine Mystery in all areas of my life. For that and so
much more, I am immensely grateful.
- Amanda Robinson
Making a discovery
Christian Schmidt is a junior MDiv Unitarian Universalist student like to be here. And I hope to see you next Fall.
under care of the Southwest Unitarian Universalist Conference.
From that Discovery Weekend last February, I felt that
this could be that place for me.
Eight weeks in, I still feel that way. My classmates are
some of my best friends, and I can’t imagine going
through this without them. Even in the midst of
midterms, remembering what brought me here helped me
stay positive.
I know I’m the right place for me. And I hope my fellow
students remember what brought them here. And, for any
prospective students reading this, my blessings and a
little advice: Take a look around, ask every crazy question
you have, let this place and these people tell you what it’s
-Christian Schmidt

I remember it like it was last week, and given that it really

was just eight months ago, that’s not so strange. I drove
Thanksgiving Celebration
over from Bryan, where I had been living the past 3 years,
back to my hometown to visit Austin Presbyterian
Lunch!
Theological Seminary for Discovery Weekend. Wednesday, November 18th,
11:45 a.m. -1:30 p.m.
I wasn’t at all sure I wanted to attend APTS, but I knew
that there had been Unitarian Universalist students here Dean Michael Jinkins will bestow blessings upon
in the past, and staying in Texas had great appeal for me. the Thanksgiving meal at 11:45 a.m.
So I was ready to give it a try, even if just for a weekend. MENU
The first person I met on campus (if memory serves) was Turkey and Dressing Green Bean Casserole
Sally Wright, and if that wasn’t a sign, I don’t know what Mashed Potatoes Cranberry Sauce
is. Sally grew up in Bryan, so we at least had that to talk
about. She was friendly, and helpful, and really seemed Yams Rolls
happy I was checking out the seminary. Corn Salad
And she wasn’t alone. This school does prospective Pumpkin Pie Pecan Pie
student weekends right. I won’t knock any other schools, Cost is $6.00 and includes a drink. Please note
but I visited three others and applied to one more, and that this will be the only meal option for this day.
this was far and away the best impression I had.

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Five Questions with. .

by Christian Schmidt

Jessica Goad John Pflug Holly Clark

UMC Junior MDiv student PC(U.S.A) Senior MDiv student PC(U.S.A) Junior MDiv student

What’s your favorite snack?
Kirkland brand trail mix, because it
tastes good. They put real M&Ms,
not those fake ones.
What’s your favorite snack?
Nuts, just different kinds of nuts.
They’re high in protein and very
easy, there’s no cooking. They’re
convenient and taste good.
How many Bibles do you own?
Seven.
What’s your favorite snack?
Chips and sour cream and onion
dip.
How many Bibles do you own?
Five or six

What did you do for Fall Break?

I played Madden, for nine days,
pretty much. And I took care of my
wife.

How did you decide to come to

APTS?
It was close to my wife’s family.

How many Bibles do you own?

Four
What did you do for Fall Break?
I went to Tucson and hung out
with my family and friends.
How did you decide to come to
APTS?
It was the only seminary at which I
felt that I could really become a
part of the community.
What was the last book of the What did you do for Fall Break?
Bible that you read? I went camping at Enchanted
John Rock. Yay!
How did you decide to come to
APTS?
I was already living here.
What was the last book of the
Bible that you read?
Jeremiah

What was the last book of the

Bible that you read?
Hosea

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were in Act I, I will not pull the wisdom card at this point
“Strength for the Journey” because I do not feel very wise.

How much continuity is there in my life between the

Jeff Saddington is a Middler MDiv student and an Inquirer foryears covering 1969 to 2008 and now? The only time I
Minister of Word and Sacrament under care of Mission Presbytery.
think about this is when I am asked the question, “How
different will becoming a pastor or a chaplain be versus
I fall into an unofficial category of student here at APTS
when you were in industry, since you were there for so
easily labeled “a second-career” person. That is very
LONNNG?”
obvious when you see me. I was fortunate to have spent
35 wonderful, challenging years immediately before Surprisingly, I believe it will have much similarity. Yes,
APTS as a Johnson & Johnson executive, beginning as a being a chaplain or in congregational ministry will
college student at the end of the 1960’s and ending here in certainly not have the same smells, sights, and sounds of
Austin in August of 2008. the production lines of Johnson’s® Baby Powder,
Johnson’s® Baby Shampoo, Band-Aid® Brand Adhesive
This was not like working in the same place for all those
Bandages, or Acuvue® Brand Contact Lenses, in the 70’s,
years, as I had at least 15 distinct assignments within 6 of
80’s, or 2000’s, or selling products in Japan in the 90’s.
J&J’s 180-some companies around the world. These
assignments were exciting opportunities, and my But my industry career, in hindsight, was remarkably
business career could have continued. But it began to pastoral in the sense that I cared for thousands of
occur to me about 10 years ago, in a very slow process, employees who had constant turmoil in their lives when
that my life might be undergoing a shift that would not not at work and had tension and conflict to deal with in
be able to be satisfied with more corporate moves. the workplace.

In no way did I understand this shift at the time. “What In order to have efficient work processes, managers need
is happening to me?” I said on many occasions. to be concerned about and be keenly aware of all this
turmoil and conflict, since good management is really just
Outside of my business experience, I have been
an effort to empower people to manage themselves by
influenced significantly over the past 40 years through
providing them listening ears, adequate resources,
volunteer work with the homeless and hungry, prisoners
training, expectations, direction, and feedback.
having no hope, and with international adoption of
children who have no families to love them. The employees working for me needed to know that I
cared about them and their families 24/7, not just when
I definitely did not feel in control about all of this “call
we were at work together. They needed to know that
evolution,” but it has been an exciting time. I suspect that
they were capable of solving most of their own problems,
many of my fellow students here have had similar “I-am-
and that their relationships with those around them were
not-in-control” experiences and probably more
primarily their own responsibility. It now feels somewhat
interesting, weaving, meandering personal journeys to
pastoral, although it did not at the time.
APTS.
Author Parker Palmer in Let Your Life Speak describes
The title of this article is “Strength for the Journey,” after
vocation as “not an act of will…but at its deepest level it
the title of a book of sermons authored by Peter Gomes,
is something I can’t not do, for reasons I’m unable to
professor at Harvard University. His sermons, rich in
explain to anyone else and don’t fully understand myself
imagery, humor, and insight, directed toward the students
but that are nonetheless compelling.”
in that university, began to work in my heart and mind in
the late 1990’s about my own vocational journey and the That is exactly how both my Act I and Act II feel to me. I
discernment that I knew that I desperately needed. am excited to learn and prepare for Act III, regardless of
its set design, and I feel so blessed to be in this place
So, is APTS a “second call” for me? Or is it merely “Act
called Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary. I pray
II” to the same play, started immediately after a short
for strength for the journey, for me and for my loving
retirement “intermission” consisting of a single Labor
family who support me!
Day weekend in 2008? While the characters in this play
are a little older, a little heavier, and a lot slower than they -Jeff Saddington

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Interview with Rev. Dr. Kristin Q: What is one of your preaching pet peeves?
A: Preachers who signal the end of their sermons by

Saldine
turning and leaving the pulpit.

Q: Where is your favorite pulpit to preach in?

Interview by Krystal Leedy
PC(U.S.A.) Middler MDiv Student
Kristin Saldine, one of our beloved homiletics professors at
APTS, sat down with me for an interview to get the inside
scoop on who she is. After only spending a few moments with
her, there was no doubt about her ability to be not only a
brilliant, distinguished professor but to be a distinguished
professor with flair. Here is just a piece of our interview
together, but the real story happens when you sit an talk with
this wonderful person who has fantastic stories:
A: Miller Chapel, Princeton Seminary. It was the
perfect size. Not too big, not too little. Not too narrow,
not too wide. It was central in the chapel.
Q: What is your favorite instrument to listen to in a
worship service?
A: The human voice in song. (I then asked a follow-up
question, if she had to pick an instrument other than
the human voice, which would her favorite be?) I like
the organ because it’s the only instrument that breathes
like a human.

Q: Where did you grow up?
A: Sacramento, California. It was named after the
sacraments.
Q: From where did you
graduate?
A: Whitworth College
with a B.A., San
Francisco Theological
Seminary with an MDiv,
and Princeton
Theological Seminary
with a PhD
Q: What has been your
greatest travel
adventure?
A: Picture this: Deep
winter 1978. An isolated
railroad crossing
somewhere in the forest along the Polish-Russian
border. Authorities have locked us up overnight in a
cramped customs blockhouse without heat or light.
I’ve never been so cold. To this day, I carry a flashlight
wherever I go. Either that or the goat sacrifice in
Turkey. Or maybe piloting that little fishing boat in the
stormy North Atlantic sea? Wait, there was swimming
with sea lions in Baja. There have been so many…
Q: What is your favorite non-academic book?
A: Andrew Henry’s Meadow by Doris Burns, a
children’s book that my mother’s friend, who grew up
on an island, wrote.
Q: If you could be a Christian in any other time
period, which would you choose?
A: A medieval Celtic monastic mapmaker (pre-Viking
times, of course)
Q: If you were not a professor, what else could you
see yourself doing?
A: A folk singer or a mapmaker. The mapmaker because I
have always loved maps; they represent something and
communicate something about what they represent. A
folksinger because I already have an album.
Q: Do you have a tattoo?
A: Yes, but I don’t talk about it much. My parents are still
upset.
Q: If you could offer one piece of advice to future
pastors, what would it be?
A: Ride a scooter. It’s fun. It makes you giggle. You have to
really concentrate on what you’re doing, so you can’t think
about your problems.
Q: What motivated you to get a scooter?
A: The lure of the open road…

Q: What is your favorite class to teach?

A: The one I’m currently teaching, whichever one that
is.

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Extensions of an Olive In what I thought was a friendly gesture, her eyes told me
otherwise, or at least that is what I felt. Maybe she

Branch
thought I was going to run away with what she had
dropped. Maybe she thought - “Greedy Westerner.”
Reflections on Identity, Peace, Unity and Maybe she was having a bad day. Who knows?

Community There was of course a language barrier, but what I

thought was a friendly gesture seemed to be taken as an
Mary Elizabeth Prentice is a Senior MDiv student and Candidate for offensive one.
Minister of Word and Sacrament under care of Grace Presbytery and
the Editor of Kairos. Finally this waiting room interaction/eavesdropping got
me to thinking about one time when I stopped at a gas
I was at my physical therapy appointment, rehabilitating station along I-35. I was traveling from Austin to Dallas
my shoulder, again this past Tuesday. While sitting in the the summer before I left for Northern Ireland (2004). I
waiting room a woman gets on her cell phone and begins was late for the required physical you are supposed to
talking to what sounds like a bank employee. complete before becoming a Young Adult Volunteer, but I
HAD to stop (if you know what I mean)!
From what I can surmise in eavesdropping she managed
to leave her driver’s license at the bank and was upset I did my business and walked over to wash my hands
that for several days while she frantically looked for her and while washing them I noticed directly under the sink
driver’s license the bank had “failed” to call her or notify was a wad (and I mean WAD) of $100 bills. I picked it up
her via mail or email. She passively aggressively chewed and examined it. For a miniscule of a second I considered
out this bank employee and blamed them for not keeping it. (Yes - I know I am broken.)
returning her driver’s license promptly - “It is your
responsibility to contact me. Why did I have to panic for My thought process was that I was responsible for raising
several days and finally contact you?” she challenged. $10,000 to be a YAV and no one had responded to my plea
for money yet and that cash would have been VERY
I know I don’t have the full story by any means. I can helpful toward my endeavor.
surmise there is more behind her comment to the bank
teller than I heard, but nevertheless, it make me think. But after my millisecond of wavering, I decided not to
keep the cash. (I am not trying to pat myself on the back
This incident immediately reminded me of when I was here!) I approached the gas station clerk and handed the
walking the streets of Jerusalem last January while on the wad of money over to him. Hurriedly I explained where I
seminary trip to the Holy Land. I was on a quest with had found the cash and that I could not stay and call the
fellow travelers to find a Magnum Ice Cream Bar in the police. He looked at me as if I was crazy and asked, “You
city of Jerusalem. (By the way Magnum Ice Cream Bars found it, why don’t you keep it?”
are heaven on a stick. While not sold in the United States
of America, they are sold in places like Mexico, Northern I said innocently, “No! Someone might come back looking
Ireland, Israel/Palestine, Switzerland and I am hoping in for it.”
Turkey!)
Needless to say, I have no idea what happened to that
The streets of Jerusalem were crowded, after all it was wad of money, nor do I want to know.
“rush hour.” Suddenly a Muslim woman in hajib
dropped something from her bag. I was directly behind All of these interactions got me to thinking about
her and picked it up and began reaching towards her. accountability.
Before I touched her to notify her I had what she
dropped, she realized that she had dropped something I now use “we” in the sense of those entering into ministry,
and turned toward me quickly snatching the item out of academia, and also use “we” as our community here and now.
my hand.

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How accountable are we supposed to be to others?

Researchers estimate that there are more slaves in the
Are we “responsible” for calling someone and notifying world today (27 million!) than there were during the four
them of finding their driver’s license? (There isn’t a
hundred years of the African slave trade during the
phone number listed on a Texas Driver’s License by the
colonial era, most of today’s slavery is underground.
way.)
Often today’s slaves find themselves trafficked into
Are we responsible for picking up an object for someone strange lands and forced to work as laborers or
if they drop it? prostitutes. Around the
world (including the United
What are we to do if we find $1,000 cash on the bathroom States) slaves work publicly
floor?
in restaurants, factories,
How accountable are we to others? farm fields (especially on
Would we have called, contacted, mailed or done chocolate plantations),
something to get the woman’s driver’s license back to laundry facilities, cleaning
her? services, and in the sex
trade. These slaves exist
Should we continue to pick up things and catch people
because it is profitable to
when they drop something?
others for them to exist.
Should we have called the police and handed the money There is a market for cheap
over in a different manner? labor, for cheap chocolate,
and for cheap sex. Choosing
I am in no way trying to be a moral agent for the to value these slaves as people more than we value the
community or individuals, but this has certainly given economic benefits they provide is part of what it will take
me pause this week. It leads me back to the grayness of
to abolish modern-day slavery. Here are a few ways you
life and I anxiously reside there for now.
can get involved:
-Mary Elizabeth Prentice
1. Educate yourself.
! Visit www.stopthetraffik.org, read David
Justice Challenge: ! Batstone’s book Not for Sale, or watch the 2008
! documentary Call+Response.
Modern Slavery
2. Encourage elected officials to support laws that
seek justice.
Corpus Christi is issuing a “challenge” to the Seminary community
! While slavery and importing products made by
to find ways to practice social justice in our everyday lives. Each week
! slaves is technically illegal in the United States,
we will highlight a particular issue and offer practical suggestions for
making a difference regarding the issue. The challenge is for you to ! these laws are rarely enforced, and there are few
pick just one suggestion and put it into practice, AND, if you so ! ways to guarantee that companies are truly
desire, to write about your experience and submit it to Mike Clawson ! importing only slave-free products. Write to your
!
(mike.clawson@gmail.com). The best stories will be printed in Kairos local political representatives and encourage them
and one will be selected at the end of the semester for a special prize.
! to support laws that require strict enforcement of
! these laws or that support slave-free labeling on
This week’s focus is modern slavery. The following is adapted ! products like chocolate that are commonly
from Julie Clawson’s Everyday Justice: The Global Impact ! produced with slave labor.
of Our Daily Choices:

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3. Use your purchasing power as a consumer.

! By choosing to buy fairly traded or “slave-free”
! chocolate, for instance, you are telling companies
! that you care about issues like slavery and refuse
! to be complicit in supporting such practices.
! Slave-free options are widely available online at
! sites like www.serrv.org,
! www.globalexchange.org, and www.amazon.com.
4. Write to companies that commonly utilize slave
labor.
! You can send a direct message to the major
! chocolate companies like Nestle and Mars to let
Kairos Guidelines
Editorial Guidelines
1. Kairos is the voice of students at Austin Seminary.
2.Kairos generally carries no advertisements for sale of goods
or services by individuals. An exception is the sale of a
student or professor’s library or other study aids.
3.It is not possible to make all program announcements which
are submitted by individual church. Kairos is more likely to
be able to run announcements which apply to ecumenical or
interfaith groups or groups of churches.

! them know that you care about how they produce
! their chocolate. Ask them to move beyond vague
! statements of concern for these issues and find
! ways to guarantee that the chocolate you buy is
! slave-free.
4.No letters which attack individuals or groups will be run in
Kairos. This is to be distinguished from letter which might
criticize the actions of individuals or groups.
5.Kairos will publish letter to the editor that contribute to
Christian conversation on the APTS campus. All letters must
be signed.

5. Raise awareness. Submission Guidelines:

! Talk about the issue at your church or workplace.
! Give out slave-free chocolate for Halloween or
! Easter. Post info about it to your blog or Facebook
! page. Host a Call+Response documentary viewing
! party. Organize a fundraiser event.
Email submissions to the editor, Mary Elizabeth Prentice, at
kairos@austinseminary.edu. Editorial decisions are based on
urgency, availability of space and editorial guidelines.
Deadline is Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. Submissions made after
the deadline must be accompanied by a bribe.

6. Support modern abolitionist organizations. President Ted Wardlaw wants

Organizations exist where you can get directly
YOU! to have lunch with him.
involved freeing those trapped in slavery
worldwide. For instance visit www.ijm.org,
www.stopthetraffik.org, and
www.notforsalecampaign.org. Support these with
your time, money, or word of mouth.

And again, if you try any of these things above, write to

Corpus about it and let us know how it went!
-Submitted by Mike Clawson
2nd year MATS Student
Churches of God General Conference
Mission Statement of Corpus Christi: To be inclusive and supportive
of the APTS community and to serve the APTS community by creating
a safe place where we can discuss and explore issues threatening the
unity and/or the efficacy of the church. Our mission, in its broadest
sense includes increasing awareness of and dialogue related to Social
and Ecological Justice issues.
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was a hindrance to discipleship in a postmodern society.

What I Learned in My
Perhaps. But a year or so ago Fort McKinley United
Methodist Church, a dying urban church, ‘merged’ with
Ginghamsburg to become a mission outpost.
SPM Today The sign out front no longer says ‘Fort McKinley UMC’,
Reflections Offering Musings, Insights, but, rather, ‘Fort McKinley, a Ginghamsburg Community
and Reflections on Seminary Life Church.’ So some brands are OK, but others aren’t.
Trying to discern the line between hubris and humility
Paul Dubois is a Senior MDiv student currently completing a year has been giving me a headache for most of the afternoon.
long SPM at University United Methodist Church.
The second pattern I observed had to do with
I’m sitting in my hotel room in Dayton, Ohio, and not demographic movements over time.
because it is Fall Break. My District Superintendent
offered to send someone to “Change the World”, a At several times today I heard people expressing dismay
conference focused on ministry with the poor. Not ‘to’ about unused church facilities. “It makes me angry,” one
the poor. Not ‘for’ the poor, but ‘with’ the poor. person said, “when I see a church with all those facilities
Relationship. Partnership. Continuity. The conference is —an education building, a family life center, a sanctuary
sponsored by several organizations, and it is being held at and a chapel, but only 20 people worship there.” I’ve
the various campuses of Ginghamsburg Church. thought the same thing before.

I’m uncomfortable here for a couple reasons. But today, with Ginghamsburg, a large suburban church
sending servants into the urban areas to do important
First, because I’m always uncomfortable doing things like work, I sensed something different. I admire the
attending conferences, first day of a seminary semester, or conviction of the conference participants to return to the
walking into any place where I know no one. But also urban areas and put those church facilities to work again.
(how to say this gently), Ginghamsburg Church is a
mega-church. A few thousand members. New, sprawling But then it occurs to me that perhaps the reason we see so
facilities. Lots going on. It is a youthful, high-energy many unused church buildings is because of the ‘white-
environment. I feel way, way out of place. flight’ from the inner-city areas 30 or 40 years ago. That
is, those folks who left the urban centers for the suburbs
That being said, I have been learning and observing. I are the ones who have abandoned the urban facilities
don’t always agree with what is presented, but I only to populate the large suburban churches. And now
appreciate the opportunity to be here, and there’s always they look back to find a mission field in the inner city…
something to learn. But sometimes, I learn something I that is, within their own heritage.
did not expect to learn. After just one day, I find myself
puzzling over several patterns that I see emerging from What would the urban churches have looked like if the
the conference regarding relationship, partnership, and communities stuck together all those years ago? I have no
continuity. idea, but I’m wondering if we are at a time when we will
learn a lesson about how connected we are, and that we
The first pattern I noticed has to do with branding. cannot simply ‘move away’.
Ginghamsburg Church is a United Methodist Church, but
you wouldn’t know it on first appearances. I like observing things and thinking about them and
making postulates and theorems. That’s why I’m here in
The Methodist identity is buried on their website. One of Dayton for this conference. They’re doing some pretty
the mantras I have heard today is that if a particular thing wonderful things given their own context. But I’m a bit
doesn’t lend itself to making disciples, then it is concerned about these patterns… and I’m concerned with
jettisoned. I’m wondering if that is what happened to the how I repeat them in my own context.
‘United Methodist’ brand. I wonder whether the
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Do I attempt to ‘brand’ certain ways of doing or being in I was unsure of the specific context or place it would lead
ministry? me to serve. My interests and passions varied then, as
they still do today. Pastoral counseling, youth and family
When I speak of my church’s Open Doors ministry… do I ministry, and international mission work are some of my
cross that line between hubris and humility, that line main interests.
beyond which I am building yet another Tower of Babel?
While I do feel a deep sense of call to serve through the
Is the ministry something I can rightfully claim for my church, I am also very interested in working in the social
own, when it truly comes from God? work setting, focusing on human needs and relationships
and social justice issues.
And do I point fingers at the failure of others’ ministry
only to realize that I was complicit in their creation, too? It is my desire to find a balance between seminary and
social work. For me, seminary and social work go hand
When another church celebrates its inner city work, do I in hand, as living out my faith intersects participating in
realize that their ministry has flowered out of my sin? social services.

That is, the poor and hungry they are feeding are the As Christians, we are called to love God and to love and
same poor and hungry that I have abandoned and serve others. Our faith is lived out in the world as we are
ignored? ambassadors for Christ, working for and with other
people.
Maybe this is why we see these patterns coming and
going, again and again, because each of us—as After completing my first two years of seminary study, I
individuals, communities, and denominations— returned to the sea of burnt orange, my Alma Mater, to
ultimately have to work out our own salvation with fear begin my social work studies at The University of Texas at
and trembling. The challenge is relationship, partnership, Austin.
continuity. Not my ministry. Not your ministry. But
God’s mission. As I reflect on this semester thus far, I see points of
-Paul Dubois intersection between social work and divinity. Social
work focuses greatly on people in their environment and
takes a holistic approach to human life, encompassing
The Balance Between body, mind, and spirit. It is important for me as a person
of faith to take into consideration all aspects of a person’s
Seminary and Social Work: life and being.

A perspective on the MDiv/MSSW Dual Degree People are not one dimensional, but multi-faceted.
Furthermore, the social work field is committed to
Program at APTS and UT
working for social justice and the empowerment of those
who are disenfranchised, marginalized, and oppressed.
Amber Reber is a member of the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church
of America) and a third year student enrolled in the Dual Degree
I recall learning in Professor Monya Stubbs’ New
Program. In four years of study and in coordination with the
Testament course that the Greek word δίκαιος meaning
University of Texas and APTS, Dual Degree students receive two
Masters Level degrees. “righteous,” also means “justice.” Thus, to seek
righteousness in Christian faith is to seek justice for all of
From the beginning of my seminary endeavors, I planned God’s people in the world.
to enroll in the dual degree program.
As part of my social work curriculum this year, I am a
In fact, one of the main reasons Austin Seminary appealed part-time intern with The Care Communities, a non-profit
to me was this program, as I was interested in both the charitable organization that works to provide practical
Christian ministry and social sciences. It seemed this and compassionate support and care for people with
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It is amazing to work with an agency whose mission is to
care unconditionally for those who are facing critical and
serious life burdens. I am excited for the opportunity to
serve others with compassionate care and support, as I
learn more about my role as a social worker and as God
molds me in new ways.
While I am not sure exactly where God is calling me to
serve in the future, I do have another year and a half of
school—thank goodness!
Whether I am led to work in a church or in a social work the foundation the seminary has laid for students and we
setting, I find comfort in trusting God’s plan for my life. listen to what clergy leaders and lay people say they need
With great gratitude for where I am today, I look forward to continue in their formations and educations.  There is
to the rest of my journey.
-Amber Reber but we give it the best shot we can!
The Seminary Community is invited
to attend the Installation of the
Rev. K.C. Ptomey
to the Louis H. and Katherine S. Zbinden Professor
of Pastoral Ministry and Leadership
Monday, November 9, 2009
5:30 p.m.
Shelton Chapel
Austin Seminary Campus
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Post Seminary Support:
News from the Office of Christian Leadership
Janet Maykus, Director of Christian Leadership Education and
Principal of the College of Pastoral Leaders guides the seminary in
supporting clergy after graduation.
The office of Christian Leadership Education has a
wonderful challenge before it.  It is here, that we look at
no  way our little office can do all that needs to be done,
 
One of the most productive and effective ways we have
found to provide as much as we can to as many as we can
is to partner with others who are concerned about the life
of the church and the well-being of its leaders.  This past
summer we took advantage of such an invitation. 
The CF Foundation of Atlanta, Georgia, invited Austin
Seminary to present a proposal to them that would allow
twenty mid-career pastors who had never been to Israel
to engage in a spiritual pilgrimage to Israel. 
CLE created a program based on Bruggeman’s
description of the Psalms…orientation, disorientation,
and re-orientation.   We asked pastors to send us
applications that described their understandings of
pilgrimage, and we asked them to tell us why they
believed this particular pilgrimage would be of benefit to
them. 
We were inundated with proposals.  Choosing the twenty
to join the pilgrimage was not an easy task, but it was a
rewarding one.   Through their applications we learned
where these pastors served and what the conditions are
where they serve.  We read of dedication and long hours,
of hope and prophetic action.  We read about how tired
and spiritually dry many of theses pastors find
themselves. 
Those chosen as pilgrims were asked to read Beldon
Lane’s The Solace of Fierce Landscapes, and they were asked
to begin a spiritual journal.  In their journals they were to
note their own spiritual landscape. Were they lush and
full of fruit or were they barren and parched?   We
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wondered if some might not even be able to describe their orientation.  We wonder if their spiritual landscapes have
landscapes.  changed, or if they view those landscapes in new ways.

The first time this band of pilgrims met was two days
before they left the country.  We all gathered in Virginia to
set the stage for the act of pilgrimage, to meet one
another, and to learn the last minute details of traveling as
a group to a new land. 
Numerous denominations and ethnic backgrounds were
represented.  Men and women who all lead congregations
and who worked hard and quickly to seek permission to
be away from their congregations, to write their proposals
and then to find replacements while they traveled
gathered ready to take a collective deep breath and seek
the working of God in their lives. 
If God continues to work in this world, then God must
continue to work within us.  As we grow and are shaped
we need new tools, new skills, new eyes to see what is
before us in new ways. 
Austin Seminary’s Office of Christian Leadership
Education opens itself to creative endeavors.   In this
manner we continue to learn and be shaped through
partnerships and friendships so that we will be ready and
able to lead those engaged in the enervating yet
rewarding work of ministering to the needs of those in
the multi-faceted church of today. 

It was clear from the first few moments of knowing one

another that this was an ideal group of pilgrims.  They
Congratulations in order
understood one another and respected their differences. 
They believed in the hope of Christ and the strength of
for :
the word.  They knew they were in good hands with one
another as they began this pilgrimage of time, space and Junior MDiv Gail Yarborough said YES!
spirit. to Michael Dodson over Fall Break.
The team effort at Austin Seminary included many from They are now engaged to be married.
almost every department of the institution.  The president
and dean engaged in detailed conversations regarding the
work of collaboration with another institution; the Elie & James (Midddler MDiv) Camp and
business office helped prepare the pilgrimage’s budget, big brothers Ryan and Shay welcomed
professors offered suggestions for places to visit and
books to read, the office of institutional advancement Micah Robert Camp on Thursday,
prepared the website, posted daily video feeds, and October 29, 2009, at 9:50 a.m.
assisted with mass emails, and the CLE office created the
pilgrimage’s design and evaluation process.  Micah weighs 10 lbs. 0 oz. and
For 14 days the band of pilgrims along with their measures 21 3/4 inches.
program leader and spiritual leader visited the places
Jesus trod, and gathered each night to pray, sing and
reflect on how each day shaped them and their
understandings of their ministries. 

They returned to the United States and to their

congregations in mid-August.  Since that time, many have
kept in touch via phone and email.  Some have visited
one another.   Friendships have been cemented across
denominational and geographic lines.  In two weeks the
pilgrims will return for a final reflection.  In that meeting
we hope to learn how they have re-oriented themselves to
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Senate Summit Minutes 10/14 • Budget meeting began with discussion on proposed methods of approval of
student group funding requests. Proposed was a process requiring every
In Attendance Jackie Saxon, V.P. SA&V; Kaci Porter, SBP; Jose Lopez, SS; student group requesting funds to present a written proposal to the Senate,
Shane Webb, SS; John Leedy, MS; Sally Wright, MS; Bart Smith, JS; Mary send delegate to meet with the Senate for interview and presentation, and a
Ann Kaiser, JS; Bryan Law, MATS Senator proposal regarding how the budgeted funding will enhance or include the
community. The Enhancement or Involvement Proposal should contain
Meeting Convened: Kaci Porter programming that extends past a simple presentation on the method that
funding was spent, but programming that serves the community through
Reformation Roast teaching, worship, discipleship, mission or service, or direct involvement in
• Elements Discussed: Food, Games, Music, Design & Advertisement the funded activity by some other Senate approved means. This proposed
• Food to Purchase: Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, Veggie Burgers, Hot Dog method of Senate approval of Student Group funding request was proposed
and Hamburger Buns, Condiments (Ketchup, Mustard, Relish), Chips, by not moved to a vote.
Canned Drinks, Smores (Marshmallows, Graham Crackers, Hershey’s • Senate also discussed structure of Senate budget and proposed changes to
Chocolate Bars) – each with a “Reformation” themed name. the Student Services fee. Due to a number of economic and enrollment
• Senate will also provide plates, napkins, ice, and charcoal/fire factors, the Senate discussed proposing a raise of the Student Service fee.
wood. The current Student Services fee is $17.50 grossing $2,397.50 per 137
• Grill will be open on both sides – one side for grilling the meat enrolled students.
with charcoal and the other side open for roasting marshmallows • The Senate analyzed multiple breakdowns of proposed budget allocation
with firewood. between Senate activities and APTS student organizations. Currently, the
• Senators will each bring some sort of skewers to the Reformation Senate has three major funding needs for the 2009 – 2010 school year
Roast. including the Reformation Roast, Polity Bowl, and Spring Fling. While
• Games: Senators will collect yard style games to provide for the these are not the only events Senate will require funds for, they do comprise
group. Ideas suggested: Frisbee, footballs, soccer, volleyball, croquet, the major expenditures for the year. The Senate proposed an annual budget
washer pit, kickball, bocce. of $2,400 to fund Senate activities. The Senate also discussed how any left
• Music: Ben Dubois has been asked to provide entertainment for the over funding from the annual Senate budget could be made available on a
gathering. Senate will provide electrical cords and assist with any set case-by-case basis at the end of each semester to further support APTS
up needed. Senate will also provide a $50 gift card honorarium. student organizations.
• Design of the event will include: the 95 Theses on the Chapel door, • The Senate proposed setting a standard cap of allotted funds per each
bagpipes at kick-off, Ellen Babinsky asked to pray, Reformation approved APTS student organization. Currently there are 14 approved
themed food. APTS student organizations. The Senate proposed an annual allotment of
• Advertising for the event will include flyers, Facebook event, an aggregate $2,400 divided into a standard cap of $125 per APTS student
community announcement (Extended to Faculty, Staff, and Students), group. Every 2009-2010 APTS approved student group has access to $125
and word of mouth. per year per Senate approval upon evidence of budget spending that reflects
• Tasks community involvement or enhancement in some way. It was suggested by
• Sally: Purchasing of Food from Sam’s Club through Business office the Senate that APTS student groups should save receipts from their
• Shane: Facebook Event, available to help with grill group’s expenditures in case the Senate is able to provide additional
• Kaci: 95 Theses production, asking Ellen to pray funding at the end of each academic semester.
• John: Community Announcement, Flyer, Purchasing Gift card, help
with grill APTS Mid-Week Manna
• Bart: Will be available to assist with food purchasing if needed • The Senate discussed the mission of Manna and the current state of student
life on campus. Based on these discussions, the Senate decided that a
• Bryan: Available to help with event
combination of many different types of Manna content should be offered
• Mary Ann: Available to help with set up and take down, ice from
Stotts this year. By utilizing humor, recreation, small group conversation, diverse
speaking programs, and reporting from student groups, the Senate hopes to
• Jose: Available to help with set up and take down, working the grill,
maintenance request utilize Manna as a platform for building and enhancing community life and
cohesiveness. In order to do this, the Senate proposed establishing a type
• Event is scheduled for Thursday, October 29th, 2009 from 5:30 pm lasting
until 7:30 pm. of rhythm of Senate content that would provide the following:
• Senate will gather on the Chapel Green at 5:00 pm that day to begin • Week 1 – Humor, recreation, group games, light fellowship
set up, start grill. • Week 2 – Reports or programming from student groups or “in-house”
presentations
2009-2010 Senate Budget • Week 3 – Outside speakers or programming to offer a new voice in the
seminary life
Current Fall 2009 Senate Budget: • Week 4 – Opportunities for small group discussion based on a topic
relevant to the current community life or attitude
6/30/09 Rollover Balance $ 789.46 • The Senate felt that this type of rhythm reflected the reality of the rhythms
of community life and provides opportunities for a variety of conversations
Sources: and programming that speaks to the needs of the community. One of the
Student Service Fee $ 2,397.50 initiatives of the Senate is to ensure that all faculty, staff, and students feel
Vending $ 86.50 invited, engaged, and respected in the Manna content and atmosphere.
Total Sources: $ 2,484.00 Students and Faculty are also invited to suggest Manna content to the
Senate at any time. The Senate and the SAV office maintain approval over
Uses to Date: Manna content.
Manna: $ 69.00
Purchases – J. Saxon CC $ 18.03 Motions and Election of Senate Officers
Name Badges $ 107.25
Ice Cream Social $ 341.25 Senators in attendance during the votes:
Gift Card – J. Gardner $ 50.00 Kaci Porter, Student Body President
Total Uses to Date: $ 585.53 Shane Webb, SS
Sally Wright, MS
10/14/09 Balance $ 2,687.92 John Leedy, MS
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Mary Ann Kaiser, JS
Bryan Law, MATSS
• 2009-2010 Budget Proposal: The motion was made by Kaci Porter to
approval and enact the proposed annual budget of:
• $2,400 – Senate Sponsored Activities and Initiatives
• $2,400 – Divided among APTS student groups at a standard cap of
$175 per group
• Totaling $4,800 in the 2009-2010 academic year.
The motion was seconded by John Leedy. The motion was put to a vote. The
motion was passed unanimously (7 for, 0 opposed).
• The motion was made by Kaci Porter to approve a $175 budget allotment
to the APTS student group Corpus Christi based upon their presentation
and proposal to the Senate. Allotted funds are to be used at the discretion
of Corpus Christi.
The motion was seconded by Shane Webb. The motion was put to a vote.
The motion passed unanimously (7 for, 0 opposed).
• Per APTS Student Senate Bylaws, Kaci Porter nominated Sally Wright to
the Senate office of Vice President for Administration.
Bart Smith moved that the nomination be approved by the Senate. The
motion was seconded by Bryan Law. The motion was put to a vote. The
motion was passed unanimously (7 for, 0 opposed).
• Per APTS Student Senate Bylaws, Kaci Porter nominated Shane Webb to
the Senate office of Vice President for Student Affairs.
Bart Smith moved that the nomination be approved by the Senate. The
motion was seconded by Mary Ann Kaiser. The motion was put to a vote.
The motion passed unanimously (7 for, 0 opposed).
• Per APTS Student Senate Bylaws, Kaci Porter nominated John Leedy to
the Senate office of Secretary/Treasurer.
Bart Smith moved that the nomination be approved by the Senate. The
motion was seconded by Shane Webb. The motion was put to a vote. The
motion passed unanimously (7 for, 0 opposed).
The meeting was adjourned by Kaci Porter.
Minutes recorded and submitted by John Leedy.
Senate Minutes 10/27
- In Attendance: Jackie Saxon – VP SA, Kaci Porter – SBP, Jose Lopez – S.
Senator, Sally Wright – M. Senator, Mary Ann Kaiser – J. Senator, Bart Smith
– J. Senator, Bryan Law – MATS Senator
- Also in attendance: Mary Elizabeth Prentice – Kairos Editor.
• Jackie reported about the Wabash Grant that David White applied for last
semester. This includes bringing in consultants to talk about diversity on
our campus. It was suggested:
• Discussions be in the evening.
• Discussions scheduled for early in the Spring semester.
• Discussions held in Stotts Hall with food provided.
SBP Report - Kaci Porter
• The APTS Board will be here Nov. 9-11. A luncheon is scheduled and
graduating seniors are invited to come as well as Student Senate. The idea
is to give the Board a “taste of Manna.” Ideas included:
• “Board” games
• Fake team building exercises/motivational speech
• Powerpoint posters
• Testimonies from each class
• Allison R. received a request from a local high school student if a seminary
student would be interested in talking to their high school about
Christianity for a World Religion Project.
• Kaci will talk to John Pflug
Polity Bowl Report - Jose Lopez
• T-shirt options for Polity Bowl were presented.
• Two designs suggested
• Classic Jersey with Stripes or soft team football shirt
• With the Classic Jersey do we offer a women’s cut shirt?
• Low end t-shirts run $6
• American Apparel (a company that pays its employees a fair and
livable wage runs $10)
• Quotes were for approximately 75 t-shirts
Kairos Report - Mary Elizabeth Prentice
• Please take pictures at Reformation Roast & Trunk or Treat to share with
Kairos & Randal W.
Manna Schedule - Sally Wright
• It has been noted that the Manna Food Calendar was missing the date Nov.
25th. How does this affect the Manna Schedule?
• Do we move the Conversation Circles to the Nov. 18th?
• Do we move the hanging of the greens & Christmas activites to Nov. 25th
instead of Dec. 5th?
• Could we have the Presidential Address and Faculty Class Descriptions at
the same manna (Nov. 11th)?
• It was decided to continue thinking about the schedule and talk again about
Manna plans.
Recorded by Mary Ann Kaiser
Submitted by Sally Wright

Meeting Convened with Prayer: Kaci Porter

Reformation Roast Plans

Back up plan for rain
• RR to be held in Stotts dining hall.
• Kaci will ask about moving grill closer to McCord.
• Bart will go grocery shopping with Mona on Wed & look for pumpkins.
Remember Trunk-or-Treat
• Will be carving pumpkins instead of roasting marshmallows. We need to
get tablecloths and extra garbage cans for carving carnage. and Fall Carnival this
• Sally will get pumpkins Thursday if Sam’s does not have them.
• Sally will get craving kits from HEB at $.99/kit.
• Jose will talk to Ben & Paul about music/venue change.
Saturday, October 31, 2009!
Manna Tomorrow Games, Prizes, Costumes
• Mike Cawson to speak about Julie Clawson’s book.
• Kaci will invite Whit to share about Listening Project. Contact John Leedy or Lauren Falco for
• Senate members will report about student groups procedures to ask for
money. more information.
• Table conversations will be initiated about interfaith dialogue.

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Campus Happenings
A Random Selection of
Chapel Mark Your Theses from:  

Schedule Calendars
Martin Luther’s
Monday, November 2 : Monday – Wednesday,

11 a.m. Laura Walters

November 9–11, 2009 Thesis:
Austin Presbyterian Theological
Senior Sermon 10.Ignorant and wicked are the
Seminary s Board of Trustees will doings of those priests who, in
be in town for their annual Fall the case of the dying, reserve
Tuesday, November 3:
Meeting. canonical penances for
11 a.m. Rev. Dr. Arun Jones purgatory.
The Lord s Supper & a
Wednesday, November 18, 31.Rare is the man that is truly
Reflection on the Psalms penitent, so rare is also the
2009
man who truly buys
11:45 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. indulgences,

Wednesday, November 4: 15.This fear and horror is sufficient

Community Wide Thanksgiving
of itself alone (to say nothing of
Community Wide Manna Celebration Lunch. See page 3 other things) to constitute the
for more details. penalty of purgatory, since it is
Thursday, November 5: very near to the horror of
despair.
11 a.m. Doug Fritzsche Saturday, December 5, 2009
17.With souls in purgatory it
Senior Sermon Polity Bowl - Football game seems necessary that horror
against our sister seminary should grow less and love
Friday, November 6: increase.
2:00 p.m. More info to come!
11 a.m. Chapel Open for
Prayer

Don’t Forget this Welcome to campus

weekend Daylight Discovery Weekend
Saving Times ends! participants.
“Fall Back” & get an We are glad you are
extra hour of sleep! here!

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