COMMENT SHEET

1. Deflection in both standard intermediate ceiling (36.51mm from STAAD) and

intermediate ceiling (38.71mm from STAAD) with ventilation opening
exceeds the limit given in IS 456: 2000, Cl 23.2 i.e. 20mm in case of load
combination considered in the Design Report. The basis of deflection and load
combination under which deflection of 10 cm given in Design Report is not
clear. Load combination of self weight + ventilation pressure / maintenance
should be used for Serviceability Limit State.
Reply: deflection in the STAAD for quasi permanent load combination is
worked out as 20mm, which is well within limits. Please note maintenance
load and ventilation cant be clubbed together as during maintenance, there
shall not be any air pressure.
2. Characteristic Strength of concrete used in design report for M40 is 30 N/mm
2

whereas as per IS codes it should have been 40 N/mm
2
.
Reply: Concrete C30/37 30Mpa is cylindrical strength & 37 MPa is cube
strength. Design is carried out considering 37MPa; hence the use of M40 shall
suffice all requirements.
3. Temperature loads are not included in any of load combinations.

Reply: Temperature, creep and shrinkage loads needs to be considered ONLY
if the structure is more than 45m in length as per IS456 clause 19.5. Moreover,
the structure is idealised as simply supported allowing expansion. Hence
Temperature, creep and shrinkage loads can be ignored in combinations Ref.
Load Case 7 of Page 9 of the report.

4. Worst load combination are not considered in design which will be self weight
+ maintenance load + ventilation pressure downward + temperature load in
case of standard intermediate ceiling and self weight + motor and ventilation
flap weight + ventilation pressure downward + temperature load in case of
intermediate ceiling with ventilation openings.

Reply: as explained above (item 3) & the assumptions made, Temperature,
creep and shrinkage loads will not generate any significant horizontal force as
the slab is designed as simply supported . Thus, we do not envisage the above
load combinations shall be critical.

5. Also the support width of 190mm on both ends seems to be on the lower side
as the deflection in the slab is high.
Reply: deflection is well with limit and we not envisage any issue as you have
mentioned.

6. Reinforcement: (For given load combinations, it will further increase with
load combination suggested above)
i) Standard intermediate ceiling:
Sofistik Staad
Top:
10 @ 175 c/c along short span 10 @ 100 c/c along short span
(10@125c/c as per GCI)
10 @ 200 c/c along long span 10 @ 200 c/c along long span
Bottom:
20 @ 175 c/c along short span
( 16@125C/C as per GCI)
20 @ 175 c/c along short span
10 @ 200 c/c along long span 10 @ 200 c/c along long span

ii) Standard intermediate ceiling:
Sofistik Staad
Top:
10 @ 150 c/c along short span 10 @ 150 c/c along short span
10 @ 200 c/c along long span 10 @ 125 c/c along long span
Bottom:
20 @ 150 c/c along short span 25 @ 150 c/c along short span
12 @ 200 c/c along long span 12 @ 175 c/c along long span
7. But the slab with openings fails in case of shear even with the above increased
reinforcement. So, shear reinforcement may need to be provided. The shear
stress is of the order of 1.18 N/mm
2
around opening along long span.
Reply: We have reviewed our design and found that shear is well below
permissible limit within capacity of the section. Normally, this kind of elements
does not have issue with shear stress. Moreover, additional reinforcements around
opening are already provided to cater the bending and shear stress around the
opening.

8. Please note that all the above calculations / results are with load combinations
given in Report. It will further increase with the above suggested worst load
combination.
Reply: ref all above.