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step 7: Operation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
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intro: Expandable Hydroponics System from Junk - Flood and Drain
I have been messing around with hydroponics on NO budget and HATE throwing otherwise useful things in the garbage, so being both cheap and EXTREMELY LAZY (I
call it efficient), I decided to break a nail and this is what I came up with.
I've learned first hand and read that the most unreliable, but seemingly necessary piece of equipment in most systems is the water pump. If you want something reliable,
you are going to have to spend money and be prepared to maintain the pump and nutrient delivery system. Too much work for a potentially catastrophic failure if you ask
me.
I found inspiration in an instructable that I can't seem to find any more. I'm sure it was called "The World's Simplest Flood and Drain System". I would like to apologize to
anyone else that I do not mention or refer to due to my incompetence, but if you see any similarities please do provide links in the comments as I do not claim to have
many original thoughts.
The air pump has become a staple component in most systems for various reasons. Moving water with air makes complete sense to me while solving several issues and
being cheap, reliable and easily serviceable. Pump maintenance is algae free and time will tell just how reliable.
Next, the system had to be sort of "free",so this meant parts that are common, cheap or reclaimed. Enter my friends, the pop bottle the milk bag and their goofy sidekick
Aluminized Bopet (chip bag to most).
Image Notes
1. Reservoir
2. Planter w/o planter bag. System built to save this bamboo.
3. Planter w/planter bag. Started 2nd generation mung bean sprouts.
4. Halved 2L pop bottle tray for support.
5. Control valve, not necessary.
6. Cheap Christmas light timer/aquarium pump combo "empties" reservoir 3 times daily.
7. Highly unattractive, yet functional support structure.
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step 1: What You'll Need
1 ea aquarium pump
1/4 inch air tubing as required
3 ea 2L pop bottles or more as desired
1 ea pop bottle cap(reservoir cap)
2 ea Sunlight dish detergent bottle caps or pop bottle caps(planter drain)
3/8 inch inner dia. vinyl tubing as required (approx 2 ft)
1 ea 3/8 inch nylon plumbing TEE adaptor
1 x 3 length of wood or equivalent planter support
Growing medium (I use pea gravel)
Milk Bag optional
Chip bags as required
1 ea elastic (aka rubber) band
Drill
7/32, 3/8, and 1 1/4 inch drill bits (that's 1 and 1/4 inch)
Hot melt glue gun.......maybe
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step 3: Planter
Cut the bottoms off the remaining two bottles. Drill small holes in the bottom pieces, invert and place inside the top pieces as shown.
Remove the "slidey valve thingy" from the detergent bottle cap, revealing the nipple over which we will slide the 3/8 inch tubing (not easy). The cap just happens to be
perfect for this and fits securely over the 1 inch pop bottle threads.
Alternatively, any bottle with a nipple cap can be used as the planter itself as long as the tubing can provide a seal over the nipple or the tubing can be fed through an
undersized hole in a cap w/o a nipple, also shown.
Image Notes
1. Homemade nipple, no leaks.
2. Detergent bottle lid
3. Inverted bottle bottom
4. Enlarged "collar" mentioned in next step.
Image Notes
1. Common drink bottle and lid.
2. Stupid me disposed of the slidey thingys, but trust me it has been removed.
I will leave the supporting structure construction up to your imagination as my skills are very limited and I do not want this to become a lesson on "How NOT to Build a
Shelf". The simple structure that I built is very visible in the photo.
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Image Notes
1. Cap fits through, but not the enlarged "collar". The tighter the fit, the better. I was limited to bit sizes available.
Handy for transplanting or system maintenance. It is also MUCH easier to see the water level due to the air space around the bag.
Image Notes
1. baby mung beans
2. Milk bag w/holes
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step 6: Assembly
Place assembled reservoir bottle into secure position and secure planters in an inverted position, several inches above the reservoir (this allows space for interconnecting
the reservoir and planters). Connect the 3/8 inch tube from the reservoir to the nipples on the planters using remaining 3/8 tubing and TEE connector as required. Try to
keep connections as short as possible, kink free and above the reservoir for proper drainage.
Fill reservoir through planters, if desired or by simply unscrewing cap and removing the reservoir bottle for maintenance. Do not overfill reservoir, it will be plenty once the
plants are added.
At this point it should be fully assembled and ready to test. Test by turning on air pump and check for air or water leaks. Fill any leaks with hot melt glue.
Image Notes
1. DWC unit w/ultraviolet radiation shield, single clad. (aka one chip bag)
2. Fully assembled Flood and Drain unit.
step 7: Operation
When air pump is on, the nutrient will be forced up into the planters until the pump is turned off. The nutrient will then return to the reservoir through the help of gravity at
a rate determined by the back flow of air through the pump and any leaks. Note: Air leaks are not necessarily bad, but will limit max height the water can be pumped while
allowing for faster draining. Small amounts debris are easily flushed harmlessly to the bottom of the reservoir during the drainage cycle.
My timer is set to 2 minutes, but I let it run longer in the video to show what happens when the reservoir empties.
No check valve is required as it can't siphon through the air pump AS LONG AS the reservoir is not overfilled.
There is no overflow protection for the planters so a maximum level of nutrient will need to be established once filled with growing medium. This can easily be marked on
the reservoir with the elastic band. Min/max levels should both be established this way. Cannot be seen well in video, but there's a max limit.
Put reservoir and planters in inverted chip bags to prevent algae growth. Double up if necessary. It works great. See DWC unit in finished system photo, but that's
another story.
Due to the simple operation and modularity (if that's a word) of this system, it can easily be modified or expanded upon with ease to suit your space or container needs.
PSI and volume are your main restrictions.
I apologize for the poor lighting in the video, but I have removed the bag so you can see the progress. Prepare to be bored! Especially by the last minute, forgot to edit
that out, sorry.
Video
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Thanks!
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awakebyjava says: Oct 28, 2008. 5:08 PM REPLY
Yah, I think that is more work than I am up to. But I did find out there is a hydroponic store in my town, so I might check that out. Good suggestion!
It would slow down the fill rate and limit the height that it could push, but I tried adding a 2 way control valve to create a controlled leak to speed the drain
cycle. It worked, but I found it unnecessary as my air pump allows back flow.
You could try another pump, but I would introduce an air leak somewhere above the waterline, hopefully a controlled one first.
I would leave the anti-siphon valves out altogether because it can't siphon back, especially in your setup, and they would add slight resistance which may
be unwanted.
Thanks!
Try to do all tinkering on the bottles or caps themselves as they are easily replaceable. The tiniest of holes near the top of the bottle should work.
The hose is a valuable resource, so try not to mess with it.
It really is so easy to build, I would recommend throwing one together, or at least a partial system, in advance and tinkering with it, so your not
going in totally blind.
I've run into similar problems with my pump where the water column was lower and it drains really slow. I've used cheap, 99 cent, plastic
3-way control valves with the variable tap open quite successfully. Here's a pic. I also included a plastic gang valve($4.95) that would
work as well. Both left over from old aquariums, but available at any aquarium supply store.
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gomiboy says: Oct 16, 2008. 8:08 AM REPLY
Sorry to add more - I'm planning on building with a single reservoir, pretty much straight from the 'ible, so I won't be needing to sync anything.
Thanks again for any and all advice.
You could use control valves. If you had a gang of three you could use two to sync the reservoirs and a third as a controlled rate leak or vent.
I just filled the bag with pea gravel and old aquarium gravel, threw some mung beans just under the surface and they grew. The cats made short
work of them though, once they found them. I didn't think it would be that easy, but that's probably because they were mung beans.
One of my "motivations", if you will, is to keep it a "hack" job as much as possible. I do like your idea of the inflatables valves. It would actually work the
same as the stone if it simply provided enough back pressure to drive the reservoir while providing an escape route for the air during the drain cycle.
I've actually added the DWC unit to the air input, essentially an air stone, to release the pressure. It runs normally when the pump is on, increasing the
bubbling action as the reservoir empties. When the reservoir empties the pressure is released through the planters and bubbling occurs there. When the
pump is off the drain cycle drives the air stone again, slowly releasing the air as gravity pulls the water down.
Working on an instructable as we speak regarding same ...................... and more, but have run into some minor construction issues with materials and
design. Also wanted to let it run for a week or two first. Should hopefully be done within the next day or two.
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Note - All stones are not created equal and it's pressure releasing abilities are also directly related to the number of inches the air has to be pushed down
through the water to the air stone and therefore the water levels are a MAJOR part of the key. I'm sure there's a technical term for it.
I've been messing around with some improvements and EVEN cheaper construction methods. Hopefully I'll be able to whip something together soon.
I am glad you were able to work around the issues in front of them. Stimulates their minds and you get to be a hero. Hope they applauded.
PS - I've found the "mosquito" type setup, done as low profile as possible, GREATLY increases the efficiency on the flood cycle. I think the problem
arises from the vertical reservoir and that the difference in the column height is so greatly affected by the drop in the reservoir....the necessary increases
in volume and pressure cannot be supplied by the little pump, especially if there are leaks/vents. The drain cycle is also MUCH slower, though. I'm
hoping to have something, as passive as possible, worked out by next March.
I like to think it's the most efficient way to spell it. Considering my typing skills, it could have taken hours longer to type "soda", never mind "carbonated
beverages".
I would imagine that a similar setup could be modified to grow anything that could be grown in a planter, or a tidal pool for that matter.
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pass-the-beans says: Oct 21, 2008. 4:29 PM REPLY
do you think if I put fish in the reservoir they could take the pressure from the pump going on and off changing the pressure? really cool!! :)
You're right, it would be cool. Too much work, and possible carnage, for me though.
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I just happen to have a 55 gal aquarium in my living room right across from our home Hydro unit (slide show to come)
Hmmm...
...I wonder what momma (read wife) would say to me hanging a bunch of 1 liter bottles from the wall above the tank?
I've messed with my fish tank a little, but found the requirements to be contrary to my dislike of algae, electric bills, pump costs and potential labour. I
think I'll look back into it, though.
I have used the tube in the cap idea for many things but never this.
This set up is referred to as "air over hydraulic" and is a great way to create large hydraulic pressures (lifting your nutes) with comparatively miniscule
pneumatic pressures.
As we know the aquarium air pumps make almost no pressure. but when applied to the large surface area of the nutes in the pop bottle, creates enough
pressure to lift the fluid.
Sorry for the preaching but it is the teacher in me loving your idea!
I'm definitely going to put something like this together to teach my automotive students about hydraulics!
Thanks!!!
Another reservoir is needed and the shapes just aren't available for free.
I changed the planter so the reservoir would not be such a limiting factor to volume. I call it the "Mosquito" because it works the same way. Scrap
drainage pipe would work great as a giant vein with more than enough volume and surface area below and between each planter to "fill" its
needs.
Unfortunately you will lose the "replace-ability" of anything you customize and I'm not sure what effects it will have on the air pump requirements.
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Mikey D says: Sep 20, 2008. 3:56 PM REPLY
Your are correct, more surface area will = more pressure/lift. I guess the real question is...
... did the pants have bunches of zippers all over them?
Perhaps a split ('Y' hose) with a mesh filter on it to help separate the backwash material that flows back. Or just a filter on the 2L end.
You are correct about the opaqueness, but then the video would be even MORE boring. It has not been a problem for me yet on this system, but if it was
in sunlight, I personally would use an inverted chip bag as shown on the DWC unit. This works very well, I have found.
I also want to see if the green plastic would help prevent algae forming in the planters by filtering out some of the other wavelengths...just 'cause.
I purposefully left out any filter as they will clog if not cleaned. Any debris that makes it through the tube will be discarded with the waste water. The
reservoir simply unscrews for easy replacement. For this reason, in a new system, I would probably use rigid tubing such as 1/2 inch CPVC to better
control water flow and prevent dips where sediment can collect over time.
The small one is dying off completely, but I expected that and the spirally one is still growing. They were in a display that starved the roots of oxygen and
the stalks started to rot. It's "died" twice already, so I'm letting nature takes it's course.
I used a "complete" nutrient sol'n from a hydroponics store at one half the recommended concentration just to be gentle. I've noticed that there's some
really slow release, guaranteed not to leach or burn, granulated products out there these days, with micro nutrients, and was going to give that a try as a
supplement in the gravel itself. Just can't leave well enough alone you know. The goal would be to change only water and feed soil bound plants with the
waste.
I'd really like to see what you come up with. You should see the crap in my head now, it's even simpler...sort of, but I've got to stop somewhere. If only
the plants could grow REALLY fast.
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