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by George Hardie Jr.
This month's Mystery Plane appears
to be a powered glider, as basic an i
airplane design one could ask for. The
photo is from the EAA archives, date
and location unknown. Answers will
be published in the November, 1989
issue of VINTAGE AIRPLANE.
Deadline for that issue is September
10, 1989.
The Mystery Plane for May brought
some interesting responses . Bill Mad-
den of White Sands Missile Range,
New Mexico writes:
"The information I have indicates
that the plane is a Great Lakes 4T-l .
Your photo is from factory archives
and was taken at the Cleveland Aero-
nautical Exposition. Another photo of
the same di splay shows the number
852 on the wing and the aircraft sur-
rounded by no less than four small-tail
Great Lakes 2T-ls or lAs . The upper
right comer of this second photo has a
date that appears to be 4-25-29. Power
is given as two 115-hp Cirrus Hermes
engines which were supposedly later
replaced by two 300-hp Wright J-6s.
"Depending upon how one de-
ciphers the notes I have, there is an
indication that there might have been
three of these built . Will be interested
to learn if anyone confirms this. Since
the ship doesn ' t appear in Juptner' s
books, I assume it was never type cer-
tificated. "
Dick Gates of Sheboygan, Wi scon-
sin had a personal experience:
"The airplane is a Great Lakes and
it is posed at the Cleveland Public Au-
ditorium , as I recall . It was an aviation
show held at the same time as the 1929
Air Races . As I recall, it was designed
by James S. McDonnell , who in spite
of hi s good formal background, was
not too "swift" as a designer. How-
ever, it must be said he was a good
promoter and businessman in later
life."
Bill Ewerts of Sonoma, California,
adds:
"Being an owner and collector of
Great Lakes aircraft, I recognized your
entry as the brief and unsuccessful
Great Lakes twin amphibian. I have
several Great Lakes factory photos in-
cluding the one you printed. It was dis-
Great Lakes
4T1
played along with three model 2T-IAs
(one was hanging) at what must have
been an aviation show."
Bob Mosher of Royal Oak, Michi-
gan comments:
"I have a print of the same photo
which I acquired from Don Wigton.
The plane was powered with Cirrus en-
gines, later with Wright J-6-7
Whirlwinds. As far as I know, the
plane never flew . Don said a Mr.
Meyers told him ' It couldn't taxi , let
along fly' . It certainly looks capable of
flight , though ."
Other answers were received from
John C. Nordt , III, M.D. of South
Miami, Florida; Charley Hayes of Park
Forest, Illinois; Herbert G. deBruyn of
Bellevue, Washington; and H. Glenn
Buffington of EI Dorado, Arkansas .
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 35