YellowRoseForTexas

posting as Oldsoul
July 2010 on Disclose.tv Forum
200 page thread entitled
Divine Couple - Part 2
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-divine-couple-part-2t29264.html
What has happened on Earth, is that all real true history of Man
was erased and replaced, during an Invasion. Some of the things
I'm am going to tell you, by the replies I have already received, are
things you may not have heard before, or contradict what you have
been taught by schools, books, and history, etc.
That does not mean that the information is incorrect, or not valid, just
that you haven't been exposed to it before. For you to truly understand
how our history books were altered, you have to dig into your real
knowledge of the Nazi programming, propaganda techniques, for the
people who we called Nazi, got their ideas from another older group
from which they originated.
As the 'story' goes, Infinity became self aware. It wanted to experience
itself, and so sought expression of this. Infinity is Energy...and this
is the Creator Force. This Force, is as "Star Wars" showed,
embedded into everything, there is nothing that does not have
this energy it could not exist with out it. This is why alchemist
said "there is only ONE thing"...they were taught even then to
hide this, after the invasion, it was forbidden.
If you read the "Dweller on Two Planets" you will find that he describes
the Creation Flame, which your eyes, now altered cannot see.

The first expression of the Creator Force, was the Male of the Divine
Couple. He was the only person in existence and called and referred
to himself as One. People still call him "The One" or "One"...the "Law
of One", the "Great Law Giver"...are talking about this person...this is
also called your "heavenly father". This is God...but we never called
him that, "God" was an Anunnaki invention of their propaganda
techniques....soon, the 'idea' and 'concept' of an all powerful,
invisible, being was replaced, and was able to be replaced by
their names as "god"...you see? "Ra", "Isis"....
On Earth, we called him Father. His other name, that again was
bastardized, and altered to mislead you ...was ADAM...atom..the first
thing created.
The next being to come into existence was the female of the Divine
couple, was your mother. Eve. They could not make you forget Eve,
as easily as they could "One" which is also a number! So when they
created the religions, they incorporated it...but again, bastardized the
truth to mislead you.
These are called "OVERSOULS" in esoteric circles. They are pure
energy, conscious, and they exist at that point in Infinity where
everything has happened, and is just starting...a loop. This is named
"Heaven". This is where YOU were born.
In keeping with the act of Creator, to experience and express the
Creator Force it is these two alone who give birth to Spirit, Worlds,
and all Life.
Life is a Conscious unit of pure energy that is born with a personality,
and all that goes with being and individual and is named "Spirit". You
are a Spirit, in a body. When the body dies you return to pure energy
and leave it.
YOU were always You and you continue...

Normally you return straight to Heaven. It was this that has been
blocked from you for centuries, as you have been held captive on
Earth by the Snake Families.
The Divine Couple, in keeping with the Creator wish to express itself,
gave birth...literally...to "The Creation". Over time, each world, every
sun, galaxy was created this way and placed into the Creation.
It was like the internet, and we 'surfed' it. Truth is stranger than
fiction :)
We as Energy beings, wanted to experience the Physical. And
this was how it was done. We look at the files 'above' and pick,
the life form we want, the kind of family, experiences...all of it.
Then we DOWNLOAD a part of our Consciousness into the Form.
And this is an Avatar, and why we say the body is the vehicle.
An Oversoul, pure energy, must obey the LAWS of Energy that One
created. When too much of an Oversoul is downloaded into the
Creation, an imbalance is created that pulls the entire oversoul into
the Creation. And this is the term "Fallen".
So when an incarnate that gets 'lost' or cant get back up...a part of the
Oversoul...
The Oversoul very often will send another to help the lost get back
home. Many reasons for this can occur. And this is the main reason an
Oversoul falls. Unless there is a War in Heaven. And then some get
PUSHED into the Creation, in an effort to lose them deliberately...and
this occurred.
The Body, was not the only Form. Trees, every leaf, every
flower...water...earth...animal...We could download into anything,
and this gives the Creation its solidity. A hologram, that is based
on Life Energies to maintain its 'shape'.

But that isn't the only existence here, for instance there is a Spirit of
Freedom, Fire, Air, Sorrow, all of these are supported in the Creation
by Spirits. And a Spirit is YOU, just a different "form"
The Tree of Life is the genetic tree of all Life that the Divine
Couple gave birth to.
On the Tree of Life is the Reptile branch with SET and his mate
TIAMATT. This is the father/mother of the Reptile Branch and
reptiles are inclusive of all bird species. On the Reptile branch,
there are numerous other branches, and one of those branches
is a collective of races called "The Snake Families".
The Snake Families are inclusive of a branch called the "Bird
Tribes". And these are the angels, and the MOLOCH. The Moloch
is who the Bilderberg are dealing with directly. They made a pact
to sell us as meat in exchange for power and money, and this is
why no one has been able to reign in the PTB.
There are very few, in your current history books and knowledge
that are not members of the snake family.
In the Creation, they invaded Earth. Earth was the home world of the
Divine Couple.
What they did was split earth into two worlds. The Earth You are
on now, is the copy...which they descended BELOW the real
physical plane.
Your real body is what people are calling the 'incorruptible body' and
that is the Avatar you downloaded into. You are a Spirit.
When they separated the two Earths, they created the hu-man
avatar by splicing the species Galactic Man, with other DNA. And
this gave you the Reptile Brain, within the Avatar. The more a
person gets hardwired to the reptile brain, the more sociopathic

they become. The Spirit, trapped, cannot stop this...and the

human being doesn't understand that the mind is blended, and
thinks these thoughts are their own. The more hardwired, the
more the Reptile has control of the vehicle. The person, not
knowing, accepts the blame and indeed over time may come to
relish the harm they do...such as the killer we see.
The Creation was set up to have an 'exit'... and this is what the
Grand alignment is. An unstoppable opening of the exit doors to
the game 'the Creation'.
The Snake Families set up cataclysms, and a host of other
sabotages, so that the 76,000 year cycle was interrupted. For
more than 3 jumps, few made it home.
This is the "Crossing" of Nibiru, the impacts and other planetary
destructions were caused deliberately to stop people from leaving.
This created Fear, and Fear and Anger was the energy that
counteracted the Natural Jump built into the system/game. Its a "low"
vibration offsetting a "high" vibration.
The destruction of our very advanced, Man, civilization is noticed on
Mars and the astroid belt.
This was US, not the Invading Nibiru and others, who created
these Monolithic structures.
We were never isolated until after the war. We had contact with other
worlds routinely. You see we did not need the crutch of technology.
We were able to teleport and fly, and a host of other things. We
were not as DENSE...one of the changes made to us here, was that
the vibrational speed of the atom was slowed to the solid state of a
Rock ...in comparison to what the real physical plane is like. We are
Co-creators, and have the ability to manifest. People who use
space ships, are not as advanced.

One of the effects of lowering the frequency is that it lowers thoughts

to a more primitive state, and therefore actions and civilizations are
lowered to more primitive states. An altered state of consciousness in
the very real sense.
They lowered the planet and our brains to 7.8 (schumann
resonance) and kept them there for centuries.
The invaders are represented on every single continent.
Ra will pay one of the Highest penalties. Then there is Lilith who
is Inanna of Nibiru, and Satan who is Enki of Nibiru.
The Nordics, the 'GFL', the Ashtar Command, the Zeta's, the Horned
god of Wicca, the Great Architech of the Freemasons, the Melchezdek
order, the Illuminati, the Bilderberg/Cult of Moloch...all the Egyptian,
and yes the Greek Zeus and them too, and the Nordics 'gods' and
heroes were theirs not yours.
There are so many names they have used, and all to create
confusion for each next generation.....They created the Religions.
ALL of them.
We do not 'worship' our father. We talk to him, he can hear
you...but we never 'prayed' or 'bowed' or thought ourselves
unworthy.
Ask me later to tell you the Truth about the Chateau Le Rennes and
the Giza Pyramids:)
This War they launched on the whole Galaxy. Star Wars was too
small to tell you the whole of it, or the terror and death these
people inflicted.

This is why even on some of the new discoveries, they are finding
'snake' worship, etc. To find your real history you have to go back to
what is called the Stone Age. We did these things, manifested, with
our minds, and we used stone. Stone and Iron are a type of
conductor like wiring is used today.
We did have technology, and Mars and the other satellite communities
also...but it wasn't a life or death thing if we did not have it. Unlike
today, where you would really die with out something like a/c in 105
heat!
We didn't have weather extremes because we could alter the weather.
We knew what the planet was thinking and had love, and did no harm.
We were the Titians, Watchers of Earth. And that is why they led you
to believe the Titians were the enemy.
The Snakes were in full control on this Earth. They controlled
time, you see it all the time in stories of abductions, and The Fourth
Kind. Who by the way, that was Liliths Molochs...which is why they
spoke her language, Sumerian, and why they used the 'owl' image
over the mind wipes. A type of flaunting.
They had the ability to go Up, to the real Earth, and down to here,
which is why you heard people speculate about interdimensional
craft...they were.
The Real Earth, or rather the part that is within the Real Creation
and physical plane is a vibrational frequency that is right above
us. They taught you that this was called the 'astral'.
When a person is "killed" here, they are unceremoniously dumped
back into the real creation...Earth. But there they were open
controllers -- Raping, Killing, and serving Human meat in
restaurants, and anything else they wanted to do -- after all we were
conquered territory.

Earth seized, half the Galaxy laid to waste, The One gave the Call.
No one denies the call of One. He called the entire Universe, on
every level, and all responded. And this was the formation of the
Allies, to the Snakes "Axis".
The Snake families could create bodies, but they could not create
the spirit. So One, in pure strategy, sent the Allied forces in to be
'victims' to be downloaded!
This is why you had so many coming forward to say that 'they didn't
feel that they belonged here'. These people were from all over the
Universe, every species known. And they jumped into HUMAN avatar
bodies! This is why they are called Heroes! And this is why we now
have 6+ billion.
You have an ability, that they are not telling you about. You the Spirit,
is able to leave the body and engage in battle. And then go back into
the body, and as an incarnate, you are mainly unaware. This was
because they sabotaged your ability to be aware. But one of the signs
that this is going on is sudden chills. As a Spirit, you have been
fighting in the "Astral" and this is becoming more easily remembered
in dreams because the veil is thinning.
You Won the War, in May 2010
Now is the Time of the Gathering.
This is a regularly scheduled PARTY. A family reunion...with Adam and
Eve, the Divine Couple.
And this time ALL MEN GO UP...it is the Law and they cannot stop it.
What they have been trying to do is harvest more humans. And
these are the people saying that they will take you in ships, or
that you are their family.

The Snake families have lost the War. Nibiru is quarantined. The
Reptile race most associated with the 'owl', Anunnaki, have been
removed on the Earth in the Real Creation. What has been done with
them is that they were sent back to an early stage of evolution as a
Race. They will have to evolve all the way up again, and this time with
no evil.
Lilith is in space right now, but Satan/Enki is hiding in the Bilderberg
Group as a member, high ranking of course.
Now is the time of the Cardinal Awakening. And this is the 'call' a
summons, to return home. And what will happen is not a
cataclysm...unless the remaining Snakes and their controlled PTB
cause one....
This has been ongoing you see. I had to LMAO when they tried
Cern....and couldn't understand how a bird destroyed their first
attempt. And then the next time the divine couple talked to the bugs,
and sent them into the wiring, and oh my gosh, what fun! What had
happened was these men, scientists, were being influenced. They
thought they were building something they wanted, and what they
really built was a bomb that was to destroy us. So every time they
tried to start it the Allies stopped them!
What you can expect is that everyone, and I mean no one EXCEPT
the Snake Family hiding here, the Seeds they implanted in the human
bodies, and all of Liliths "creations" and creature/monsters....like
Chiggers and Fleas *grin* will be left behind.
This is why she (Lillith/Inanna/Isis) was called the mother of
abominations and the worms of the earth. Ever heard of the
Mongolian death worm? And then the very deep caverns, and in the
spiritual and occult lore, the dragon worms? All these are her lab
creations.

She, like all Snake Family members, was bound by law to marry and
have children with her relative. Incest is demanded from the Nibiru
council. Thats why you see the occult sign of the pentagram with
"Lilith" on one side and "Samael" on the other....they were married and
that is their joint 'family crest'. Samael is another name for Enki.
There is no 'sin' as described in the bible. "Sin" was another name,
one of the first, that Lilith used. If you wiki the Akkadians, you'll find the
town named 'Sin' is right beside the babylonian town of 'Inanna'. When
they conquered an area, they renamed everything after themselves.
We are concerned that when the change occurs, some will be
afraid and feel unworthy because of things done here. Its
important you understand, everyone was a victim. Everyone was
taken, implanted, seeded, cloned multiple times, and
mindwashed. We all suffered through it as unaware incarnates,
but our spirit was still fighting in the astral...all this time.
So its important to tell people, that this is forgiven, there is no real sin
but there is right from wrong.
Unfortunately the Snake family found a way to sabotage us, and make
it look like this was our choice to do bad things.
Father did figure it out, he sent his own incarnate in. And
suffered through all of it himself. We had to do this to figure out
how they had done these things.
One of the extraordinary things they did was Tiamatt created
Matter. And this is a type of 'shell' that is placed over the exterior
of everything. This doesn't allow the molecules to move freely.
And they found a way to 'glue' us into it!
So its taken time to figure out how Matter worked and how to
unglue the spirit...YOU...so that you could rise back to the level

of the Real creation which Vibrates at a considerably higher

frequency.
When we make the jump UP (a/k/a The Leap) they will destroy what
is left.
There is a saying we have "energy can neither be created nor
destroyed" and in part this is true.
However, a Conscious Unit, a Person, is a personality imprinted on
the streaming energy in code. And there is such a thing as
Alchemy...God Chemistry. And what they do is throw the undesirable
into a calcinating fire...and the code, that is the personality...is
destroyed. The energy, thus cleaned, is returned and reused by the
Creator Force.
Lilith and her particular group, those who KNEW both
consciously and unconsciously, are going into the PIT.
I do believe that they will receive such a punishment. Unlike the
Reptilians...or the EL *Greys*...they are in the eyes of those
above, unrecoverable. The taint is hundreds of thousands of years
old, and thus too deep to over come. Lillith didn't have multiple
lifetimes, she had an unnaturally long life span (even by Anunnaki
standards), and never stopped and sank deeper and deeper into
depravity.
1 year of an Anunnaki life time is 3650 of our years. A 30 year old is
109,500 years. She is more than 150 now, and she used our lives to
extend her own longer.
You are going to see the sky change. And that will mark our
release. When science tells you the "blue sky is created by
refracted light" they are giving you the definition of a hologram.
The blue sky is a hologram.

What you will see a soft luminescence of multicolored light. And

that is Father in Energy form. He is already here above you. It is
Father who is keeping the whole planet calm...has anyone noticed
how things are calm despite the news? And have you noticed even in
the last few weeks the news reports less and less that is upsetting to
you? It might hold you for a few minutes, but then your emotional body
settles back down...
One of the things the Snake family learned to do was hook you
up to apparatus that siphons off the life force energy. Like the
Battery in the Matrix you.....with anger, fear, and all the negative
emotions.....were running their machines! This is why it was one
catastrophy, war, etc...after another. They created those incidents,
riots, all of it....to get the anger and emotional output up for their
systems.
They will continue to attempt this till we leave, so its important
you understand.....when you stay upset, you are being used as a
battery for the enemy. There is still fighting in the astral, but more in
self defense and only when no other choice is there. And the reason is
Father said stop...you give them power when you fight. So blow pink
kisses at them and smile *grin* and they just POP, its actually a bit
humorous at this point.
Many are having dreams. And in these dreams you were taught this is
'metaphor' ....not true...in dreams you are in the astral in spirit and now
that some of their machines and mind control is loosing hold you will
start having memories of fighting.
If you are having No dreams, then you are very deep, and that is
usually a top secret assignment. We did a lot of sabotage that way,
as cells. Do you remember when Cheney had his heart attack while
giving a speech? I know the person who did that...and wide awake
when she did it. She was furious with him, for the death he had
caused.

This is the power that is returning to you, the ability to do with a

thought. No more limiting thoughts or stifling laws.
We were sovereign, you see? And that is where the expression "every
man is king of his own castle" came from. And this and Eden are
being returned.
The earth we are on, and the real Earth are Merging....very
slowly...and when that is done reality will change a bit around
you. Plants, animals, everything will return to their former
incorruptible body, which is a body on a physical plane...not
death or heaven...and this is about to occur.
All that is needed is the finishing touches and to make sure there are
no more Trojans to sabotage the exit.
MY NOTE: This next post from Oldsoul appeared at the end of the
thread on Page 186 -- I decided to put it near the beginning here
as it gives a clear concise overview of what specifically was done
to alter our History Books and Written Texts and how the 2 Main
Entities responsible for our torture and suffering, SET and
LILLITH (also known as Ra/El and Innana/Ishtar) kept reinventing
themselves in various cultures and points in time with new
names:
Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:40 pm by Oldsoul

Well, I didn't read the whole site of :http://www.ra-el.org/

but it is interesting. I do wonder how many of the incarnates are called
back to him.
When I did the research for Selene, and the origin of the word
'Federal' I found the link with the Sumerian texts.

It is the El, short for 'Elohim' that we are at War with, in the 'War in
Heaven'. The El are who were called the 'Whore' in Babylon under the
reign of Queen Selene and her twin and husband 'Sin'. In every nation
they went by a name given under that language...what they did was
take these different names and move them in the books as 'another'
person. This is why the story of Osiris and Cleopatra are the same
story.
You also have the fact that we are given 'new names' at the end of
each cycle, and those who need restoration are given 'new bodies'.
When you break down the definition of 'Nephilheim' you find that this
is a person in a 'new body' but the same person. In the first world he
was called 'SET', 2nd World he was 'Apsu', 3rd-'Anu', and 4th
world ..now, he is called 'An' of Nibiru.
The El are the 'Greys'. And what they did is human experiments on a
horrific level. That is why they are remembered world wide. It was a
MODERN world. The heiroglyphs in Egypt show helicopters,
submarines...And it was a World War. We/Man... lost. The El won.
Selene won her 'god head' and her name changed to 'Magda' which
means 'most high'. She was the Nephilheim of Inanna. 'Sin' however
was a true horror. They are listed now in history books under different
'country names' rather than both being listed under 'Egyptian' names
(they were pharoahs) or both being listed under their 'Greek' names.
You have Selene under her 'greek' name, and 'Sin' under his 'roman'
name. Sin's roman name was 'Ptolemy Philedelphus'. This is who the
13 families name 'Philadelphia' after, and it DOES NOT mean the kind
'brotherly love' you are taught. They were called the incestuous twins
because they followed the Law of the Seed. Selene in fact married
each of her brothers, Alexander also. He was sent 'home for burial
from babylon' circa 323. He won his 'god head' (horns) and is called
'Apollo'.

Selene created the Monetary system and 5 day work week as

forced slavery. She created the 'Pap-al' which is Father (of the) El,
the "Roy-al" which is the Reigning 'blood' line of El, and the 'Feder-al'
which were the lesser pharoanic nobility. She created the
'Corporation', which was the Merchant class of federals.
They were given the legal claim of 'divine right as son's of 'god' (El) to
Administrate the land for 'Massa' the 'landlord' and the right to Collect
the 'Fe Due' El...'Fe Der' Al...germanic preceded sumerian/latin of the
Anunnaki. This particular portion, info, was directly taken from history
books that were written and taught as late as the 1960's. When I went
to look them back up, all books and references had been removed.
This is why 'Federal' as well as 'UNION CHURCH' and
'CORPORATION' are in all caps. As late as the 1700's corporate
owners would brag their corporation was given to them by 'god'.
Ptolemy is the origin of the word 'pedophile'. The orgies at the 'temple'
which was the Ziggurat of Babylon were HORRIFIC. Lilith eats
children, and so children were and still are the prime target of this
Coven. This was the age of Azazel. This El became "Baphomet" in the
2nd world, "Massawa" and the origin of the Coven of Freemasons, the
origin of the word 'Messiah' and the two fingered hand sign of the
'ancient blessing hand'.
The 'El' were their 'god' and so they committed the largest massacre
in history because the El demanded human sacrifice, that was their
food source. Selene is listed under her greek name, now. Arsinoe II.
They didn't dare put Ptolemy's name up under the greek, or you would
have recognized it. Innana's twin brother was "Ilu", then "Utu", then
"Isu"..."Isa---Jesus". In Greece, he was called "Hades".
When I did the research, I found they had literally moved the timeline
'0' date. This next is conjecture, for those who think that I never 'doubt'
*grin* But the evidence is that they created the 'BC' (common name
'Bohemian Coven' Era of Azazel) and "AD" is 'Anno Domini" which
marks the 'Anunnaki Owl (Lilith) Domination" of Earth.

They removed all the education, from then on we were in complete

illiterate state, only the art of the glyphs remain, only 'priest' and 'kings'
were allowed to read write or create records. The information I found
on the state of the Ocean, and the Atmosphere shows the recovery of
a cataclysm (war). Add to that the nuclear radiation that is still in every
desert area and even NASA acknowledges.
The 'mud flats' blocked oceanic transport to north america until circa
1200 according to shipping records. Atlantis is listed as destroyed in
950. The 'dark ages' are listed from 300 (which is Selenes Reign) to
1500, which is when the 'Renaissance' began, and that word
translates to 'Rebirth'. I believe that marked the 'New World'..the
beginning of the 4th World.
From what I can tell, in order to hide, they used their newly created
and renamed 'religion/churches'. Hiding the Covens and keeping the
bloodline and blood pact with the El. This is why so many argue that
the statue of liberty is Mary Magdalene..pregnant.
I think that the priest at the 'Chateau le Rennes' found documents of
the blood pact and that is what so horrified him. Finding out that
'Jesus' was 'Hades'. He knew that if he told anyone the religious
fanatics would tear him apart for it, claiming it a 'lie'. When I looked
up the glyphs, I found that the young 'Hades' son of SET, looked
exactly like the posted images of 'Jesus'. I found further, that some
things are known. It is known that the statue of 'St Peter' is Jupiter,
taken straight from the Colosseum and put in the church as 'St
Peter'. So in keeping with the past of 'renaming' people, they
simply renamed their 'god's'.
The FEDERAL is the specific Coven of the Slave Queen Selene.
The last time they were caught out was in Moscow, 1560-1680 ...they
were called the 'Merchants' of Moscow. It was so close after the War,
they found the information out and worked it out when they caught the

coven using the deaths created by the starvation 'squeeze' put on the
population as occult ritual human sacrifice to Selene.
All that is now in the books is that a Pogrom was committed and it was
burned to the ground. That these were the biblical "Merchants" and
"Moneylenders" of the "Temple" (of Babylon) and that they used the
title 'Federal' is removed. Almost all reference to them being the lesser
nobility is removed. A 'pogrom' is a 'massacre of a particular religious
sect'.
The 'Creationist' claim the world only 6000 years old. They also do not
recognize the double entry names. I didn't believe Peggy Kane when
she said, 'less'. Really. The archeology, dating, all leads us to believe
otherwise. However, I have to admit, it does look like 'less' than 6000
years is right.
I'm rather looking forward to finding out the truth of it all, though.
I have to admit, I like uncovering a mystery. How they move 'time'
and fake 'time' is still hard to fathom. However, I do know that the
Zodiac is a time system, and that they stole the key to the exit
and have kept us.
So I guess we'll have to wait until our Father tells us all of it.
Interestingly enough, in the hieroglyphs of the time, 'Atum' the 'all
Father' (Adam) is there too during this War. The story goes that he
told the El No, they could not do human experiments and this
started the war.
As for the above questions of is this a religious thread, well
NO..emphatically it is not.
Adam did not give us religion, SET did. This was done by mixing
history and esoteric knowledge. Esoteric knowledge is not religion, it is
'Law'. Such as the 'Law of Free Will'. Very few doubt such a 'law' is
real.

What they did was remove the other laws..such as the law that 'all
debt must be paid'. That 'debt' to 'Lilith' via her religions and monetary
system is part of the 'war for the souls of mankind'. By not knowing the
laws governing the incarnation and the Creation, we are left
floundering and easily tricked.
As to why post this information...well...why NOT?? Insecure
people fear reading anything that is different or might conflict
with their 'religious' beliefs. Secure people read it all, looking,
searching, and that continues through life. Some of this
knowledge is from books, some is from Astral travel and contact
with the subconscious knock and talking FREELY with others
who also do these things. I simply post the information I find, as I
find it. When things change, I try to update the new information
and the new changes as I find them.
Officially the War is over, but we are still trapped here with these
insane Coven's and therefore we should still be aware that things are
still happening to free us of this. I never meant it to be a religion or for
people to think of it that way, and I think that most who have read
through it don't make that mistake. On this thread, you are allowed to
discuss what you see in dream states, and what you see in the sky or
going on around you without fear of ridicule or fear of being labeled
'crazy' because you dared to talk about these things, or talk about the
El/Greys, or fighting the El.
Now, father doesn't want us to fight ...although you CAN bind them
*grin* and throw them up to stick on the underside of the NET for the
Allies to deal with;) Because 'anger' and 'fighting' was being used as a
power source, literally, for them to redirect against the populations.
If you feel that Amun Ra is 'good', so be it. Good luck with that! But
when the NET is lowered and you are told differently, don't scream
about it. It was your choice. I found "Ra" in the 80's and I too, thought
it was interesting. He channeled for years, they wrote books of his
channeled disinformation. Many even now swear this isn't an El...and

now he is replaying the same deceptive game as 'Ra-El'. Just enough

truth to strike the memory cord, and then the rest is disinfo to lead you
to the wrong conclusions and down the 'garden path'. I followed that
path to a dead end, took years, but I did track it down. You can too. If
there is time.
No real mother or Father would wish their children harm, grief,
starvation or War. Father didn't give you Revelations, SET did. This
is Ra "yahweh" who would kill as many human beings as possible,
simply out of spite.
This is a reptile race, and reptiles eat mammals--you. And that is
what their 'Harvest' is all about. Who will chose to do 'Service' to the
family of SET and go with them to continue to be a 'herd of beef' to be
harvested.
Service to Self is their path and this is what we call a Sociopath. If you
are not at the 98% point of 'Service to Self' SET has the right to cast
you off, into the Pit. If you disbelieve this, read his prior channeling in
the 'Law of One' by Law of One institute from the 80's. It is in there but
not overtly so, that is why we called it disinformation.

ayaflash wrote:very interesting read Oldsoul

can i ask where you obtained all this information/theories?
Well, it is as new of information as you might think. But it was
dangerous to speak the truth for so long. You see if they knew
you were 'waking up' with in this system things would go much
worse for you. And even the net is bugged, they confiscate my email
on a regular basis. They did take people regularly in harvest, and
that is still going on for the ones who have escaped and are
hiding here. So this is experience talking, and the researcher in me
led to the life long reading of old and new...Until I woke enough to

become consciously aware and active in the fighting that was going on
in the 'astral' at night.
Now I'm here to wake as many of you as possible before the
change. The truth is when the veil drops, people will remember
all the torture. So the question has been posed, should the veil
drop, maybe, in increments. I don't know what the decision will
be, but I do know that nothing of the 'old' will be brought forward.
So in a way, its another way to release the past anger and not bring it
or hold it in.
princessleia wrote: When I was reading this, some things I understood
and some went totally over my head. I guess there were too many
metaphors for me to keep up. However, I really do want to understand
what you are saying.
Its not just you. This was really big, and went on for more than
500,000 of our years. So the layer upon layer of deception and
entrained propaganda to peel away makes it a very big onion to cry
over.
Let me know if I can explain anything better, I'll try.
heinousone wrote: How many of the old prophecies are "Snake born"?
Perhaps better to ask is it most, few, none or all?
All of them. What they could not completely remove with mindwipes
they incorporated into their own. they simply twisted it to mislead. Like
giving you the name Adam and Eve, as the 'parents' of all
humanity...but not telling you this was the Divine Couple, and not
telling you this was "god".
In fact when I went, just this year to pull information for someone else,
about the Divine Couple...I could only find two references.
One was Celtic, and attached to the Druids. They had been infiltrated,
so the information was a bit twisted, or completely not there.

The other was Vedic, India. And again it had been twisted.
You see, the Snake families are Patriarchal, and women are below 'no
class'. It is the Snakes who set up the cast systems, and the 'ruling'
class systems. And gave us Male domination.
This steals the power that has been hidden from women. That
power is the Creator Force that is triggered primarily by the
female especially during sex.
That is why the indian(native american) legends said that 'a' woman
was misusing the Creator Force, and this started 'the war' ....during
the Atlantean age. That is not quite correct, but it is correct that the
Feminine Divine is the Birther and the Male Divine is the seed, and
together we are co-creators of this reality....before our powers were
stolen.
We were always equals, and not really subservient to one
another, but IN Service to one another. Normal people, especially
married:) will do things for each other, a give and take...service to
each other
fossileyesed wrote:
thanks again for your perspective oldsoul.i got a
question.where do david and solomon fit in the myth/story.
much respect for your opinion
peace
There is actually a very good video on youtube...it starts out
conspiracy, but by about the 7th one, it goes into history...and ties
everything really nicely with out mentioning the snakes at all. But she
does show the Elizabeth Taylor scene, where Cleopatra declares
herself "Isis" reborn...and her son Caesarian "King of Kings". She also
had enough evidence collected to show that it was Caesarian, who
became "Jesus" and went through the entire Name change game
these people play continuously.

Its called the "Illumanati Bloodlines" and tied the bloodline all the way
to the Queen of England....
It is the Queen of England who is the descendant line of Cleo...and
the Anunnaki...
ayaflash wrote:
so why haven`t they taken you out yet if you are this big threat to
them??
can they only take you in astral?
i have a lot of dreams that feel all to real where i fight with monsters
and what not...and i always win it`s like i`m untouchable.
who/what and how do you fight in astral/dreamworld??
how can you tell the difference from a real threat in the dreamworld to
just a bad dream?
i`m genuinely interested.
Oldsoul: To be quite honest, I'm not to sure there was ever anything
but real in the dreamworld. And the reason is this. The owl is able to
take and then wipe the memory and implant a picture of an owl over
the wipe. When we have 'dreams' and wake and remember them we
were told these were 'metaphors', but I believe they are the same
thing...a patch over an erased memory.
When You sleep, you are able to take astral flight...no vehicle/body to
keep part of your mind occupied with driving, washing dishes,
working....so we are able to leave the vehicle best while the vehicle is
resting.

This is where the term "Spirit Army" originates I believe. You are in a
War, You are a Spirit, and when your body sleeps...YOU leave to more
actively engage in the fight.
As for myself, I have indeed, REALLY pissed them off. And recently,
for the first time, I actively had "missing time". But it doesn't matter,
nothing they do now can stop our freedom from becoming a reality.
EVERYONE GETS THE BLUE PILL;)
As for myself, I am not allowed to know my name. You see there is
power in knowing the NAME. I'll go into that another day...getting tired
here its 3 am!
But I will tell you...I have been here since the beginning. I am in fact
an OLD SOUL, my hand displays me as such. And the Truth is I am
one of the First children born to the Divine couple. I know that the
House of Ur attacked....and that is how I got here. I know that the
House of Ur is not as it is listed here in books, I've tried to find info, but
so far have been unsuccessful. I remember Mars. There were Domed
structures there, we traveled and I went there.
And I specifically remembered Nibiru Crossing and flipping the planet,
the groan and tear of rock....
And my big offense, why I had missing time, is because I am awake,
and I saw Lilith! And she cast an illusion to make her look like a plain
face, but sweet peaceful mother type...and it didn't work, I saw her as
the truly ugly reptilian she is.
She was collecting people in the astral...people who think that they are
looking at an angel. And I spell cast *grin* and removed her illusion,
and made all the people give her the finger as they ran to escape....
what they didn't realize was that she had them flanked on either side
with men dressed as black knights...her men. So there was a fight,
and she didn't get her meat!
really pissed her off, hahaha

Spell casting also, is not what you've been led to believe it is.
All Light creates Sound, even candle light. The Key that unlocks all
Matter, is Sound. Sound controls, and gives access to the Vibration of
the Creator Force. The older Sanskrit is the closer sounds...to the real
vibrational energy.
When you speak, and have intent, that is a type of spell casting. When
you make it Ryhme, you make it Bind, and that is precisely what I did.
Tesla and Keely called 'sympathetic Vibration' ...every virus and
every illness has a frequency...did you know they keep a medical
database on what frequency cancer, diabetes, liver diseases...all
of it?
Every mineral and every element has its own unique signature of
frequency.
The Giza pyramids all represent a particular frequency,
mathematically this is provable and well known...but did you
know that the sandstone is a rock that matches that particular
frequency too? So the material, and the Shape, have a matching
frequency.
Do you hear High pitched sounds in your ears? and the doctors and
science tell you this is 'hearing loss' or other things :)
Go to Youtube, and pull the Nasa tapes of the moon.
What you are hearing is the high pitch frequency of the rising
planetary frequency. And when you hear it in your ears noticeably, is
when your body is adjusting to the frequency. Once it adjusts, the
pitch in your ears fade to the background again.
We were kept at 7.8 and are well above 23 mhz now

[quote="2020vision]I ask as the so called 'mojos' or lost spirits can

enter the body that way, almost parastic / symbiotic in nature through
negativity.[/quote]
Oldsoul: Normally they are supposed to close. But the snake found a
way to breach the barrier. And yes they do open during any use of the
primal...desire, procreation, intoxication too
The earth's frequency is 7.8Hz, its called the Schumann Resonance.
God bless you! it hasn't been that low in a decade!
The frequency rise was first noted by the Navy. They use the carrier
waves of the ley lines to transmit communications and for navigation.
So when it started rising it was hush hush. But of course, this is why
the ice at the poles was melting from the bottom up. The sound waves
are hitting the core, and high frequency produces heat.
ayaflash wrote: the reptilians?
i don`t remember
how do you know for sure 100% what you speak of?
how can you be sure that you are not being deceived by someone or
something?
when do we get the blue pill? i want it now
i appreciate you taking your time to answer all questions of mine...i
know i ask a lot i can`t help it
i just don`t believe anything/anyone 100% on everything just because
someone says this is how it is. i do though agree with you on a lot of
what you have written and it resonates with me.

i hope you stick around...DTV needs people like you.

keep it coming
Oldsoul: There is such a thing as a REQUEST
and for a powerful request...I'll tell you my first hand experience
is 4 women and 1 man
I've decided not to share that one...right now is not a good time to do
such a thing, the last time the Bilderberg were casting back at us the
entity hiding there found a way to gain the energy we produced....
Your body is being adjusted to the new frequency. You are being
woken up. We tend to think that the more we know the more awake
we are...but somehow it doesn't quite work that way. It is a form of
consciousness, this Awakening, and it seems to take what ever is
needed by the spirit in the vehicle, and apply it to them until I suppose
it is completed...the change is completed. the pitch will continue to get
louder and higher now. The last frequency jump is a big one. They
have slowed it down some what to give the brain time to adjust.
Well this war was always a war of Strategy. So they might appear
random, because you don't see the other 'cell' beside you being
maneuvered into place as well. Those are the gaps.
the lack of dreams happened to me as well. I do rather resent it. The
dreams are not there because you are going very deep into the astral.
And you are doing something as a 'cell' operative, that is very secret.
So in order to hide the information from a telepathic race, the Allies
choose to put up with being a bit 'blind'...hence no memory of the
'dream' which would tell you what you were up to.
lighthouse wrote:
[b]This is one of the most intriguing treads I have ever read, I have
enjoyed every word of it, and I literally mean every word.

Ever since I was a child I have had very violent dreams and never
understood where they came from. I also remember flying around all
the time when I was suppose to sleep. That stopped when I was 7 or
8, but I still remember it vividly.
All these things now start to make a bit more sense, and even thought
I know there are many 'truths', over the long years of reading I have
developed a sense of intuition about what is part of that truth and what
is not
What Oldsoul is writing I feel is part of that truth...
Oldsoul: Thats the age...I stopped too and never understood why
when I attempted to do so I would fall, or start feeling so Heavy that
flight was impossible. At the time, I was told what I believe was the
accepted theory at the time...that the age of 'reason' was 7, and at that
age you become more fully integrated with the body. Not true. They
were taking us even at that age.
Lilith eats children, and at around the age of 7, we were being
harvested. They would clone us and then put us back in our
bedrooms at night. Every time they cloned us they implanted us.
The implants were also done in the doctors offices. The doctors
in the 50/60's were told by the government that this was officially
to be done. All those 'adnoid' and 'tonsillitis' surgeries....
truthbknown wrote:
Hi oldsoul interesting stuff!......ever heard of Robert morning
sky( Terra papers) you both seem to share the same info.
You talk about the battle on the astral plane and I've been
doing this so long now I'm tired and sick.......every freaking
night!!!!
Tired to the point where I'm thinking the unthinkable but do
realize that that will get me no where. Had peace once and it

was so beautiful and hard to describe.....I tried to stay there

but felt like I was pushed back. Don't know how much longer
I can keep up the battle when it's every night, any
suggestions?
Also when I do battles there is this immense light that
emanates from within me that destroys the negative energy
but it seems to be increasing in size and intensity over the
years to the point where every thing and every one may be
wiped out. I have the four women, so what do I do now?
Would be nice for you to visit but ask for permission first.
Don't like posting, feel vulnerable. Thanks Oldsoul and hope
to see you on the other side.Peace
No I haven't seen the Terra papers. I think I would like to read them, if
you have time please post the link:) no rush...I'm old and slow!
We are all sick of it, even the people who are unaware of what is
happening..they haven't been told....but all of us here on Earth, right
now, are here for this moment...To free Earth.
lighthouse wrote:
....point in my life, now 6 years ago I was tired of it all as well, I left my
job, sold everything I had and moved to a country full of lakes, rocks
and forests.
Nature has a way of healing things and acceptance brings peace.
Good luck and take care.[/b]
Oldsoul: You made a fortunate move. The Nature Spirits are trapped
here too...since Eden. And of all the things that Lilith/Inanna's
people hate the most...its those little Nature spirits. We have lost
the ability to see them because our eyes have been
blinded..literally. But they are there by every tree, and stream.
Houses and all! The Reps' attack us more easily around the
computers, in the buildings, etc. But when we go for a walk
outside, it is they who get attacked by the Nature Spirits. They

help us fight what we cannot see ourselves...and have earned a

great deal of wrath for it.
2020vision wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
The last frequency jump is a big one. They have slowed it
down some what to give the brain time to adjust.
Am I fair to assume that this may be tied in with the theory
that we are going to pass through the Galactic plane around
2012 hence the frequency jump which could take us to a new
level of consciousness?
Oldsoul: The 2012 time is inaccurate. The date is NOW. 2010. This
could drag on longer for the sake of the people that are still waking
up...but I don't think so. the objective, is to leave NO ONE BEHIND.
Not one person, plant or animal left for Lilith/Inanna and Enki. No food.
You might have noticed that the planets are aligning somewhat
surprisingly...for instance they didn't see that eclipse coming it was a
surprise...and they didn't really see the Cardinal cross alignment
coming that surprised them also. So trying to tying this to "Time" when
time itself is a known artificial construct, might be in error.
But as to your reply...astral is an incorrect name, I used it because
it is a common name.
It is the REAL WORLD....on the real physical plane.
As for Ether, the 12 Ethers were Part of the Net...remember I told you
about sociopaths flaunting and then laughing at you for missing the
obvious?
The Ethers are Nets specifically designed to put the person,
consciousness asleep.

They are made of energy, and we did learn to draw on them, but
they are not the natural Energy, they are a type of Energy Net that
enclosed us in this prison. Everything we have learned here, was
twisted truth. I am attempting to repair that.
Ether is an anesthetic net.
Astral is not the right term, the right term is the Real physical plane,
the real Creation. but I do use the common term, so that everyone
understands what I'm talking about...sorry for the confusion
As for the fighting being all astral...not true.
These are the "El" who are commonly called Greys. They stop time,
butcher what they want, and then erase the memory. And this is
expressed best in the movie Fourth kind.
This war was on every Level of the Creation. Fighting here, as
well as fighting on the Earth on the real physical plane above us.
I grew up the same way. Everyone was afraid to talk about it. Even
today, if you talk about these things, they have made a law where
it only takes two doctors to sign off on you and have you
committed against your will.
The place we call heaven sits at that point of infinity, where everything
has ended, and everything is just starting.
This makes events, a bit more fluid, mutable...alterable.
Time exists for us here, but it is a construct...given to the
Anunnaki by the "Ancient of Days", but does not exist
everywhere. So when you leave your body, you are no longer
bound by that construct.

What you are doing is traveling back and forth, from the standing point
of the real creation...it appears to be your way of finding which path
would be more advantageous. And a method of your Oversoul, above
you, to forward you warnings about what is coming up.
The attacks and the war shows up in dreams, on a continuous basis
for everyone on the planet. The torture and the mind control, implants,
chips....adds up to the denial that these things could be possible or
true.
These dreams are not the average nightmare for some people. They
are the unusual memory of a real event...whether to be, or in the
past...as time is fluid. Remember the post recently that said science
had proved that life was based on electromagnetic frequency? And so
like a tv or radio, some are wired in such a way, neurologically to 'see'
and receive those signals. The brain is like a quartz, and amplifies the
incoming signals and translates them into something your conscious
mind will understand sometimes.
You must never forget, however, that this is a multi-level war. And the
sad truth is they do this to people in here, and then wipe their minds,
and put them back in place.
If all of it was fought only in what they have taught us to call the
astral, but is in fact the real plane of The Creation...then you
would not see the visible destruction in the Solar system, or on
Earth.
This is not "in your mind", it is not JUST another dream, it is
what is going on around you, and this is their system of
"plausible deniability". To make you doubt this is real, and brush
it off as fantasy.
Lowsix,
You can brush it off as imagination. I remember when they were first
doing the abduction interviews...and by that time, world wide they had

more than 3million cases of where this happened while people were
awake and aware, and remembered all of it.
And some scientist, I forget who, came along with this "Brain" theory
*grin* and told everyone, using his science, that this can all be
explained by brain activity...and there fore none of it was true!
Denial is something that the entire system, from education on,
supports deliberately.
Once again, this is a War, and that is War time propaganda from
the other side. If it was all in their minds, then there would not
have been such an increase in sightings and contacts, and there
would not be so many specifics similar. An aboriginal in
Australia, who has no "advanced" schooling and doesn't live our
lifestyle sees the same things we do, and is in the same fight we
are.
I understand, standing back and looking at all the little pieces is how to
put it together. It is so very large, bigger than just this planet or solar
system, that it is hard to believe it is possible...did you see those pic's
of the ship near the sun? and the other that appears to be a ship
exiting the sun?
I keep trying to post the supporting pictures I keep on my computer in
the "my pictures" file.
They wont post for some reason. Which is odd, because I never had
any problems posting them on Youtube...You would think that would
be harder!
I have a tech guy coming tomorrow or sunday...I can only assume its
my computer...no one else has trouble. I know I am doing it right,
because they are the same links I've used before. I guess I'll just have
to be patient! Rats!

dylans wrote:I have only remembered maybe 3 dreams in the last 14+
years and I only remember snippets of those dreams wish I could
remember have tried all the "methods" I have come across. I keeping
the pen and paper beside the bed and writing down as soon as I wake
up but I get nothing.
On another note I was wondering if there are any history texts that talk
about the divine couple I'm look for like ancient historical accounts if at
all possible
Do you mind if I covert your posts into a pdf file for download?
Oldsoul: No, I don't mind and I also looked in the books. It has all
been removed....I know because I am "active", and am allowed to
remember some of what is going on.
There was one group, that was online. But they have closed.
cee420 wrote:I also dont believe aliens are visiting our planet but I
have a feeling all these astral aliens are actually though-forms
created by the human-spirit world.
I believe the UFOs are actually manmade and based on invention of
Nikola Tesla
Heres a thread more on that ..if youre interested:
Flying saucers: an invention by Nikola Tesla?!
flying-saucers-an-invention-by-nikola-tesla-t4819.html
Peace.
Oldsoul: Sorry to erase the quote, my computer for some reason has
limited what I can type! Getting it fixed, but till now...
Thank you for the link:) I do enjoy Tesla.
As to your post...Plato wrote that Earth did not look as we assumed
that ..."if you went far from Earth and looked back you would see 12
interlocking Triangles..."

First you have to ask, How did he know what earth looked like 'from
afar'. Then you have to ask how did they know that Neptune was
Blue...or the colors of the rest of the planets....
Then you have to get past the denial that they had seen this for
themselves! Even then people were Taken. Some of the older
Babylonian pictures depicted some of these races, they called
them 'demons'. And of course this was because they are so
horrific to human beings, on a level even by modern terms, Evil.
I have read science and science discoveries, since I saw the 1908
Worlds Fair on tape. They had presented an anti gravity device, that fit
in the hand smaller than a tv remote. And they demonstrated with
what looked like the hull of a torpedo, with some weight to it, and flew
it around. I dare you to find that Tape! *grin* I looked everywhere for a
copy. Its been pulled.
Thats when I understood, they were covering these discoveries
up...and thats when the search started and this is where it has led.
You simply cannot depend on what is written in the books...they have
been tampered with for centuries.
This is a Collective. More than 300 civilizations, who did not lose
their technology like we did in the war. They are multi-level within
the Creation. In other words, you have those who are Energy
beings, and those who are physical, all working the same
agenda.
***They are larger than Star Wars could have given you the
concept of. ***
This "Triangle" that Plato saw, was the Energy Net over Earth.
This is why you have "UFO's" depicted from caves to the Cistine
Chapel. This is why you have "Snake Worship" on every continent,

even Ireland that is supposedly with out Snakes. These are the Snake
families that were cast out of Ireland.
This is why there is a preponderous weight of Evidence that this is so,
but the human mind will not accept or make the 'leap' of mind that
connects these things together.
The Net is programmed to shut down the mind, and that is why
the Cardinal Awakening, for more than three cycles, 76,000 yrs
ea, has failed. No one went home. They had shut down the
natural jump points.
When someone left the body/vehicle in death..they would be
given the 'heaven/hell' that this group created. Trapped there,
they would then be pulled out and stuffed back into another
vehicle in the 'birth process'. This form of 'recycling' was what
was called reincarnation.
They couldnt make a spirit but they could make bodies, and
anyone caught by them was trapped. These are the Raiders,
Marauders, of our Galaxy. And this was their method of providing
a continuous harvest for themselves.

ayaflash
Thank you so much, that was quite enjoyable! The spiral is the
natural pattern, and on the video presented in one of the other posts,
you have the underground S. American artifacts, with spirals
inlaid into the triangle.
The Triangle is the METHOD of capturing and directing the flow of this
Energy. This is mistakenly called Zero point, and Aether. This is the
Creator Force, and it is intelligent, sentient. They did an experiment of
splitting an atom, separating the two, and what ever they did to one
half was felt by the other.

Light is a wave, and a particle, and it 'flows' like a wave, piling upon
itself when forced into right turns.
In our history books they would have you believe that first there is an
all powerful god, demanding only the educated or enlightened, or pure
of deeds. Then they tell you that there is no god, it is just a concept,
that we are god. This is a classic method of disinfo and propaganda
even the Nazi's knew of.
There is a god, but we never called him that. He is not a control
freak! and that is where the deception lies...Reptiles are control
freaks. "My way or Die". This is expressed in Neil Slades book
"The Reptile Brain".
There is also the deception that god is alone. Yet they tell you outright
that all men came from one woman! So the problem is that there are
no books for you to go to for this information. The Divine Couple had
to flee when Earth was Captured ..."God" hasn't been here for
awhile! The Net dropped and no one got out or in, unless
captured and erased.

tjahzi wrote:
I think it's a mistake to speak in definitives, when we can prove
nothing about anything [I'm one of those 'could all be an illusion' kinda
peeps]
nicely said!
Oldsoul, what do you mean with 2012 actually being 2010 and why
would you think that?
peace & love
Oldsoul: It is well known that the calendars are off. By about two
years. The Egyptian Archeologist over Antiquities, in Egypt knew this.
This is why he had his millennium celebration in '98, rather than 2000.

I remember watching him on TV...he was very excited, as all were who
were in the "secret societies". They believe that they are superior
because they have knowledge you don't. They have yet to realize that
these people are not gods, or friends of man. The Isis Project, done by
the Russians found out with a more clinical analysis of what was done
on Giza, and what was told the people. They pinpointed Exactly, the
propaganda techniques.
There has indeed, been so many things put out to spin you around
and mislead. And like true sociopaths it is always very convincing,
science quotes, history quotes, the whole works. It is indeed hard to
believe, that there are civilizations that move planets, and
capture solar systems in prison grids...I do understand the
skeptic response. But again, truth is stranger than fiction, and
larger stories are harder to accept than bits and pieces.
Cornbread714 wrote: Very interesting read.
I am considered one of the more "skeptical" members on this site, but
I am skeptical because I have seen and experienced a lot in the 5
decades of my current incarnation, if you will, and my bullshit
detection meter is set to a fine degree.
I truly enjoy this kind of information, partly because it seems quite
original and not a parroting of one or two author's or philosopher's
work.
I may question the accuracy and even the motive, but my hat is off to
an intriguing thinker who has obviously done his or her homework.
I echo the sentiments of other posters who said that they resonated to
the info whether it is "true" or not.
I must admit I have suspicions about your possible agenda, Oldsoul,
and your similarities to certain internet factions that I have a huge
distaste for, but I prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt for now

because you speak of certain things that I know to be true based on

personal experience.
Kindly carry on.
BTW, I just had one of the most intense dreams of my entire life (I
might describe it later) and I am enjoying reading Cass's experiences
which have amazing parallels to my dreaming and waking life.
Oldsoul wrote:
captchaos
thank you.
But it isn't an Idea. My reason for posting is to 'come out' of
hiding. The change is due to happen soon, and too many will be
confused, there is no real information allowed on this subject by
the PTB. The PTB are Bilderberg. The Bilderberg are the Cult of
Moloch. The Moloch are a RACE. The Owlman of Cornwall, is a
Moloch. Lilith who is Inanna of the Anunnaki, is the Queen of the
Moloch, and this is the origin of the Sumarian language and why
the owl was implanted over the erased memory of abductions.
There was a deal cut. They allow the Reptile races, called the
Snake Families, to harvest humans for meat and drugs, and in
return they get power and wealth. Any attempt to stop them is
undone. The use of advance mind control techniques is used
wold wide to keep the populations "dulled" to their response of
what the PTB are doing. When that isn't sufficient to halt
someone, they Take them and implant and chip them. The shear
number of methods that they have used against the populations
is stunning.
More stunning is the scope of the Group. There were Trillions of
them here. Installations between the 5 and 20 mile marks in the
crust of the planet. On Mars, the Moon, Venus, Saturn, there were
installations. Further out, there were large NET controlling orbital

installations that programmed and provided the Energy Net

around the Sol System.
Then on the Upper level, within the Real Creation, they were
openly here. Restaurants serving human meat to them. Rape of
children, women, men....Reptilians werent known for
discriminating tastes...or bathing. By being able to cross the
Frequency barrier, they had access to us here, and then could
'disappear', crossing the barrier instantly.
This "War in Heaven" involved the entire Universe, to reign this
Group, the Snake Families, in. They had destroyed entire planets
with in Sirius, Pleiades, and if you look here, the asteroid belt
WAS a planet.
Their plans of Conquest are now over. And now the clean up
Above you, on the real physical plane is happening. The One in
the form of an Energy Being of immense size, created The Creation,
and is able to restore these planets, which are photonic in nature and
respond to his thought....
Now they are working on restoring Earth, here. This Earth was split,
into two worlds, and this World we are on was Descended below
the real physical plane by lowering its Vibration to 7.8. We are
now rising UP physically, through higher Vibrations instreaming
to us now, and will re-merge with the real Earth...Eden will be
restored to you. Our children will be free of these controllers who
have taken over our planet, and are hiding within what LOOKS
like the human PTB.
When they implanted the Reptile Brain, they set up societies that
entrain and thereby complete the "hardwiring" of the Reptile Brain to
the Vehicle. This is why the PTB has those 'reptile eyes' that everyone
talks about. This provides two methods of conquest to them, it
allows the Snake Families to take over the vehicle and do
express harm to the populations via a "sociopathic predator" and

it divides the population. Making us blame each other and this

creates wars among us. Getting us to Kill each other, divide and
conquer, is their Favorite game.
cornbread714
I would very much like to hear of your intense dream...
The reason it resonates has to do with the "knock". The knock is
contact. There was a rule put in place...both sides get to contact you,
but only via the subconscious. And that is referred to as a fair
"knock"....I have some REAL disagreement with that method!
Anyone who has done the investigation of psychiatry, hypnosis, etc.
will tell you that the subconscious remembers EVERYTHING. It is not
kept in the dark, and knows what is going on. It remembers all 'past
lives'. It can and does sometime hold grudges over the span of
lifetimes here, and will sabotage any effort of the incarnate when it
sees fit. It is SUPPOSED to tell the conscious mind....
The Subconscious and conscious minds were split, and this is Still
You. But it is like another person, and the sabotage done, is that the
mind has been tampered with...the conscious mind has been blocked
from fully understanding and hearing the subconscious telling it what
is going on.
EVERYONE is receiving the Knock right now...that is the purpose
of the CARDINAL AWAKENING that is expressed to you visibly
with the alignment of the Cardinal Cross of the Planets. They are
attempting to tell your conscious mind what is happening...its being
blocked, but you are still getting the message "something is going on"
and this is why my post resonates with you.
My sincerest apology, to any one whom I have missed, I am older and
slower and apologize for that slowness. It is not a deliberate snub.
I will try to catch up with you youngsters, but its like an old man on a
bike trying to catch up with a kid on an AV at this point!

Be patient.

cornbread
I have to laugh, what did you mean by "my Motive"?:) hahaha,
No subterfuge here! I am trying to speak as plainly as possible. More
because the information sources from 08 to now have been removed
from books, print, and then the internet....that was very disturbing.
I would like to know also, if you don't mind, what groups are you
talking about? on the internet....
thank you
cornbread714 wrote:I have to respectfully disagree with some of this.
Though I am not a strict Darwinist by any means, I don't think the
reptilian brain was inserted into us after the fact. All mammals have a
reptilian base in their brains.
Now whether or not we were genetically altered is an entirely different
matter and perhaps the reptilian part of our brains may have been
manipulated or enhanced, but I think that part of our brains is older
than the neocortex. Maybe you have it backwards, with all due
respect.
Oldsoul: Well I can certainly understand. The books have been
tampered with, as has our science fields. All to mislead. Just
enough truth, but twisted to present a misdirected view. Sitchin for
example...I waited years after discovering the cave drawings of
the Dogon, in Africa. And read all of his works. The misdirection
was predominant...to me after years of watching it...but then to
find out he was a member of the Bilderberg! My disgust was
profound. But this is who is over every school system now, all
the grants, all the higher think tanks....
We have a 12 strand DNA, that is broken, two are connected, 10
classified by Science as Junk...Amoeba have more DNA than we do
now. We are the only life form that goes through fetal changes...more
than one stage...a chick is a chick, a frog a frog.

(cornbread cont'd)
We are the only species that has narrowed eyesight, one
opthamologist put it this way "If we had been any other life form
on the planet we would be considered blind."
We have a divided left and right brain, and yet everyone ...or most
everyone...knows that true genius is created when we gain
connections between the two hemispheres. It is that "leap" of
connecting different things together and forming an overall
conclusion...that is removed.
People are seeing isolated incidents, but not making the connections.
Then you have the people who are functioning totally on left brained
reasoning, and failing to comprehend what someone else is telling
them if they cant make the 'jump' of the concepts. It makes it very hard
for them, when they come up against things that don't fall in the line of
their sciences or reasoning...such as what is called "phenomena" or
"UFO's" or alien life forms....they block it and tell you this is
impossible. And this is due to the tampering of our brains.
oldsoul wrote: cornbread
I have to laugh, what did you mean by "my Motive"?:) hahaha,
No subterfuge here! I am trying to speak as plainly as possible. More
because the information sources from 08 to now have been removed
from books, print, and then the internet....that was very disturbing.
I would like to know also, if you don't mind, what groups are you
talking about? on the internet....
thank you

Heinousone wrote: My guess is one of the groups are all the people
following this "Galactic Federation of Light" which if I am correct you
earlier claimed was part of the reptilians.

There was a guy that used to "speak for them" but then he turned and
said they were lying and misguiding him. He dropped from the radar
after that. Hope he is ok.
heinousone wrote:My guess is one of the groups are all the people
following this "Galactic Federation of Light" which if I am correct you
earlier claimed was part of the reptilians.
There was a guy that used to "speak for them" but then he turned and
said they were lying and misguiding him. He dropped from the radar
after that. Hope he is ok.
Oldsoul: That is correct, in fact I really havent come across any of
the 'groups' here, that are not the Snake Family.
The Galactic Federation of Light, is a humanoid appearance...but
they are not MAN. They are the genetic product of the Reptiles.
This is why the Greys (EL) were doing genetic harvesting of our
populations.
The Nordics, Ra, Set, Quetzalcoatl, Enki and Inanna who is Ishtar
"Ashtar Command" and "Satan", Asgartha, Nephi(Nephilheim),
Asgard---Thor, etc., Olympia...Zeus(who is here now btw) is
Andromeda, the list goes on and on.
Because they (Snakes/Reptiles) had control of this sector of
space they were the only ones in here with us. They divided the
planet up to their own little 'cull' spots. And now they are fighting
to get people to 'choose' them...and this is to be their harvest.
You see there is such a thing as being 'sealed' and if you are
sealed, choose them, they get to keep you...but that was the past.
NO ONE will be left for the snake families...no more food source.

Oldsoul: I have to stop for about 30mins.

Breathing treatment...and then I'll be back.

When the snake family invaded the Solar System, ages ago. They
destroyed the solar system and the planet. Every scrap of
information is gone, buried miles deep.
Over and over we rebuilt civilizations, Mu, Lemuria, Atlantis...and
because they were here, over and over they infiltrated.
Systematically destroying the civilization by gaining positions of
power within it, and then applying the game of playing one
against the other.
One person against another, one society against the other, so on and
so forth until that civilization imploded. Wars and mayhem, and then
they said to the surviving people, "see? humans are inherently bad,
see all the bad they do? How could your neighbor think that way, this
is wrong...mankind is bad! "
And all that time, they had found a way to take over the Vehicle
(body), and blend in, and you knew only that a human being did these
things unless they outed themselves. Or that some "nut" was saying
weird things...
Look at the things that Alexander the Greats mother said to
him...about a snake coming to her and mating with her and this was
really who his father was...one of the gods. He thought she was nuts
too. They started all the religions, we had no such thing before. And
then after telling people...to scare them...about 'demonic possession'
they then turned around and said "there is no such thing". These are
Classic games they play, seen in every war...
The only names left were in religious terms...which were NEVER the
truth.

You have beings here, that were Energy life forms, and you had
the physical beings. Both were working together to harvest
humans for a food source, and for drugs. We were playthings, in
a cruel game, to these beings there is no love, love is a
weakness.
What they have been doing is culled entire cities. I remember
Houston, and hundreds of ships over head at night, they stopped
linear time, we were totally 'frozen' in place. And they teleported
thousands of people up...we were then 'stuck' in place on the ship. I
was looking out the window facing the city. For thirty years, I just
thought it was a dream. Had you asked me, to this day, I would have
said "no, I'm not a "contactee" and have never been taken...no
missing time!".
Zeus, who has been hovering around the Sun in a large ship...has a
type of cyborg, robot. Not like the 'star trek' but more squared off
and ...well just bizarre! He unleashed them on us.
When they clone our body, and then download our
consciousness back into it, each time there is a subtle difference
in our behavior and mind. They implant us, and seeded the entire
race with their seeds.
They knew they would lose the war, and to ensure that their race
would rise again, they did that to us....seeded us. The snake would
grow within the human host, and then the spirit that was man
would be killed and the snake took over. Sounds bizarre and
unbelievable, I know, but that is what they were doing. Their plans
have failed. Even the people who are still shut down mentally, acting
like Sociopaths, will not be left for the Snake family.
If it was a dream, how do you explain so many that are having similar
"dreams":) of the war? And I mean many. And those who go deeply to
sleep....and don't remember anything...are the ones going the furthest
in this game.

This has happened regularly during the day, and then wiped from the
mind. We leave our vehicles at night. And fight on the real plane of
Creation. But it doesn't preclude the fact that this is happening in the
day, and has happened to entire cities.
Zeus is head of the Andromedan fleet. And I was so very
disappointed when I found him to be a traitor. Like all who grew up
here, I loved the stories of the Olympians, Norsemen, etc.
He was hooked up to all kinds of apparatuses. When I asked why?
how could he do such a thing, he said "she promised us immortality"
And of course that was one of the big lies. There is a difference
between being an immortal, and being an Eternal. You are already
an Eternal, and this was not disclosed to you. An Immortal, is
someone who synthetically keeps the vehicle past its age of use.
They do this a number of ways, but all involve taking life and body
parts from another to replace their own worn out organs. This is a high
tech culture.
You, as an Eternal, have an incorruptible vehicle.
The Vehicle you are in, is not your original vehicle. You were
captured and then downloaded into this one with your mind
wiped and under the 'veil'.
The bloodlines simply make that vehicle more easily taken over if the
being within does not understand what these things are. That this is a
vehicle, that systems of entrainment are in place to hardwire the
reptile brain for easier take over. You as a Spirit, are a child of Eve,
and the game was always about getting you to choose the Snake
family over your real parent. It is not your fault if they gain
control of the vehicle. Dad already knows you were set up. There is
NO SUCH THING AS SIN. There is right and wrong, but there is no
penalty for a victim!

thesparkle wrote:Oldsoul, what happened to win the war? May 2010?

Otoman wrote: You must remember that humanity is at a road`s end at
this point,some people may say stuff that might make you feel safe
and you might think them as friends,do not fall for it.
The time to stand up against them is now! Dont fall for their lies!
cornbread714 wrote: So there is no sin among men, just victimization
by these beings, right? Does that mean the Snake family that appear
to be human are evil, in your opinion? Or just victims as well? Do you
follow my point?
No, there is no sin in Man. Sin, was a NAME, if you look up the maps,
you'll see the Babylonian town "Inanna" is right next to the Akkadian
town "Sin". Inanna conquered those territories and then renamed the
Towns after herself. And that is the origin of the word. I wish I could
remember the exact details, but she had created a 'penalty' for anyone
who 'saw' her, and that was then termed a 'sin'. Your sin is that you
found out who Inanna/Lilith was. I'll try and find the old paper on
that...later:)
Early on, in my 'awakening' process, I wanted to believe that
these people were victims. My comeuppence was Zeus. I wanted
to believe that people like Obama, Greenspan, so many
others...were victims and therefore would be allowed to go UP
with us.
The slap came when I was told anyone who wished that was bad! It
was a 'bad thought'...to inflict them on 'heaven' or 'Eden the real
Earth'. They don't want them to cross the Frequency Barrier. They
made a choice, on the subconscious and conscious levels to choose
Lilith/Satan(Inanna and Enki) and were 'sealed' by those two.
Once that was done the 'snake' within them was deliberately 'fed'
and grown...until they are completely possessed by it. It is an Evil

entity within that vehicle, it took awhile to understand that. Like

Ted Bundy the 'mask' is perfected to the public, but it is a
mask...they are quite evil and willingly commit mass murder..as a
form of 'fun'...a power trip.

lynziswez wrote:@ oldsoul, I've been very confused of late with

different information that I've been reading about which contradicts &
would like your thoughts on it if you would please. It relates to white
light & sun gazing that type of thing.
Oldsoul: Its amazing, how many of us...trying to wake up here,
fall for the same traps. I did the same thing...and it does give a bit
of euphoria and that misleads. And of course it 'struck' that
chord of truth...
The sun is not the same sun, and that is the mistake---or rather
deliberate trick. We can do that on the higher vibrational plane, and it
does do well for us. The sun transmits Light that is Information
encoded and our brains decode and accept it, normally and naturally.
But on this lower vibration, the sun was deliberately altered.
Sungazing it is not something you should do here, the euphoria
comes at a price.

shrike12 wrote:I can't belive nobody has asked this yet but how did we
win the war?
Why is it all over? What happened?!?!
Oldsoul: On the upper level above us, in the real physical plane 'The
Creation', the War in Heaven was won by the collective Allied forces of
ManKind in May of 2010. That might be why one of the poster I saw,
was expecting the 'rapture' (which is not what is
happening) ...because we are all getting the subconscious knock,
and are trying to explain it in the 'terms' we were given, which were
given to mislead.

The real Earth, as well as Sirius, the Pleiades, and the hundreds
of other planets in this Galaxy are being restored by The One.
The One, "God" in Energetic Form is larger than a tiny galaxy within
his Creation. Because it is photonic and energy, in nature, and
responds to his thought this is able to manifest at once.
Still, it appears 'slow' to us. One of the things done to us is "Time" was
applied here, but does not exist the same way Above. Then, to top off
their iniquities, they extended us *piled on* more Time...at one point
there was a 90 Days "Earth" to 1 "Astral" Day. Which is why they
always told us we lived lifetimes here, in a short period 'there'.
He is here directly Above us now, on Earth. And because he is
your real Father, literally, he doesn't want ANYONE here hurt or
terrorized by the changes, or the memory return of the Veil lifting.
So more time is being taken to Awake the people here to the truth
of the PTB, and the realization that these REALLY ARE an
invading species, not religious 'demons', and not Humans dispite
their appearance. He's concerned about the 'shock' factor to you.
So time is being taken to dismantle their devices that are phased
out of eyesight for you, and to 'out' their maneuvers to you.
(shrike12 cont'd)
So now the problem is with the visible space war that so many have
noticed around the sun, Venus and Saturn. Saturn was Yahweh's
outpost. Inanna is who is around the Sun still fighting the Allied
forces. Enki/Yahweh though, is ON Earth. He is Hiding within the
Bilderberg Group. And thinks no one knows or can get to him.
They told dad that they would kill the whole planet rather than
allow us to go free. "Salting the Well" was always their trick. Spite.
Now if they have managed to ignite Jupiter, which was their plan...they
have worked it for several years, then thats not good. The plan was,
that when you left the vehicle, during the rise up, you would see
that bright light and think it the road home. It outshines Dads

light which is a soft golden glow, not a harsh white light that
blinds the eyes. (the white tunnel of light everyone sees at
death)
Its my understanding that the time of our exit here is not 'set in
stone' and this is because of the manipulation of the construct of
linear time, and because Dad wants ALL his children. We've
worked so hard, so many deaths, to make sure all our brothers
and sisters get free. No one left behind.

otomon wrote:
The highest truth cannot be put into words. - Lao tzu.
I don't think its a matter of whether there is a definitive truth or not,I
just think that just the answer would be so out there that we wouldn't
comprehend it,its like trying to teach a monkey about how the internet
works,thats why we come up with stories that seem epic in nature but
they are very simple.We have our limitations.But like I said this is just
my personal opinion.
Oldsoul: That is because your brain has been deliberately
Lowered in Frequency...to 7.8, and although it is rising quickly, it
still seems like there are some concepts our conscious minds
don't readily get. The subconscious does though. Whether the
conscious mind agrees or not it is the subconscious mind which
"chooses" whom they will go with, and that was part of the sabotage to
the brain here.
On the real physical plane, you have what is called Empowered
Knowledge, and this was removed by the EL (greys)...and will be
returned. Not only do you, will you, and you have in the past,
UNDERSTAND how everything works, you are a co-creator.
Literally.

And when your power is restored by this Jump....well, that is

what is Worrying Lilith so much! She cant hide from you then
and she certainly cant fight you off if you go after her! You are
above her in the hierarchy of power.
All of these people, the GFL, the Nordics, the Churches...want
you to believe that Man is stupid. That Man is inherently bad, and
needs guidance...by them of course! That you need them, their
technology, their help....that you have no care for the planet and
it is YOU that have trashed, polluted, and killed everything.
The propaganda is so reminiscent of the Nazi game...because it was
formed by them (Snake Family) in the first place. It is a systematic
brainwashing to make you choose them, their help, their guidance.
And of course, dont forget the greatest game...causing
catastrophe and then coming in to 'save' people from it. Like the
pyro's that set fires, and then rescue the victims! You see this right
now with the war in Iraq/Iran and Israel.
The war Above is won, and the clean up and restoration is going on.
People who leave the vehicle here i.e 'death'..are transported to
the real physical plane again, and restored. The planet above us
is returned to the Eden it was. Everyone is rebuilding their lives,
and their home worlds now.
Here, on this lowered copy of Earth, we still have to deal with the
space war, and that is visible through out the solar system and
often caught on camera....and some who are still in denial
dismiss it still, but soon it will be impossible for them to. It is that
denial that must be overcome.
People who are in denial, and then forced to confront the issue...well,
it doesn't go well, they experience trauma. So this needs to be
addressed, as much as possible, before the jump.

Your real Father quite simply, LOVES you, and doesn't want any
of you to go through that. So along with removing the hidden
tech, and bombing all the underground installations (all the
earthquakes) and heating the snakes up underground...snakes
cant cool like mammals, they don't have an internal
thermostat...Those Above are outing and stopping the
maneuvers of the PTB.
The problem was so very complex, the Snakes had set up SO
many systems, devices, and booby traps...
*** But one of the worst, is that they had tied humans, just
phased out of sight, to devices that used us like batteries....to run
the very weapons systems they used against us. ***
So the 'word' is NO MORE FIGHTING. You see when you get
angry, or feel fearful, you were recharging their batteries!
So the news, and the oil, and the wars...were to keep that going. What
Dad has done, and I think it is a funny expression, is "douche" the
entire planet...to keep you calm and not power those weapons. So
*grin* "Just say NO" to the PTB, and their maneuvers. Write them if
you will, to say no, but don't "mix it up" or "stir it up" because this
PHYSICALLY STOPS the rise Up in frequency---it counteracts the
High frequency by providing a source of LOW frequency.
Stay calm, feel Love for your family, the wildlife and nature...so
that the Energy Vibrations will continue to Rise, and we will
merge with the Earth above fully and then be free.
All of us have been contacted on the subconscious level. And
this is how you know. When the call went out, Universally, only
the best were selected. You were sent to be 'born' into this place,
as I have explained...downloaded into an Avatar.

When you feel a 'sudden chill' that is not explained by temp's around
you, that is you leaving the vehicle at will. Coming and going, in Spirit
form, and working as an Ally on the inside. You have fought,
sabotaged, and given the snakes hell! *grin*
They could make a body, even O type, but they could not make a
consciousness, which is what we call a spirit. YOU are the
'spirit'..a person that is slightly out of phase with the density of Matter.
Yes, you would have those dreams, for when you leave the body/
vehicle in sleep there is no linear time...you can see ahead.
You also participate in a 'cell' and we discuss these things, and
receive word from Dad personally. You are not from Earth, there
are many who will be surprised at what they really look like!
*grin* but in the real physical plane we are all beautiful beings:)
no flaws in the incorruptible body.
Lilith/Inanna has never 'died' here. She is still here. And that is the
problem. If your friend is receiving messages, a "knock" and allowed
entrance to Lilith that isn't good.
The conscious mind wants to believe 'good' but I've seen them in
the real world and they are quite Evil. When they sleep or leave
their vehicle they actively attack the allied forces. And Ra still loves
her, this is true...I've asked him. He (Ra) is here too, in a ship
physically above the planet and has placed part of his
consciousness into the NET that holds us. He sabotages us
because that is what Lillith wants..to keep her food and drug
source.
You must always remember, these are not Man, they are different
species of sentient Snake/Reptile...and Lillith is Owl/Reptile-feathered serpent..

(marley cont'd)
The dreams have been subverted, I know. I have been 'dreamless' for
quite awhile now. I don't remember very often now...but this is just
another way to keep you in the dark. It will not last much longer. We
were told that dreams were imaginings, they are not.
The Snake Family has put in place high tech gear everywhere, and
what they do is 'overwrite' the memory with images of their own...and
that is why so many thought it was metaphoric in nature.
When the Avatar/Vehicle is asleep the Spirit which is YOU leaves
the body and carries out its mission. That mission was 'free
earth' and many millions are doing this.
Some are able, despite the cloning, to retain the 'wiring' necessary to
keep the contact and knowledge. Some are cloned to the point where
that wiring is broken, just like they broke the DNA strands. But the
spirit is awake now. I should tell you about that:) you would enjoy that
story.
Oldsoul: Around January and February, my cell which was
completely 'awake' now, MET in this reality! Something really
unheard of. Unique.
Of course we were led to meet each other, COMPLETELY
online...none of us are living near each other!
We decided, especially after the cat incident, which I have already told
of...that part of the problem was that all the Spirits were still asleep
within the body of humanity. That was the Aethers effect and purpose.
So our cell, actively, and full awake, spell cast by doing a
'request'.
"Two or more gathered in the NAME of the FATHER"....And we
requested that all spirits wake up. And on the upper level, the

word came back...they were astounding that we had done such a

thing, it was not foreseen *grin* and it was SUCCESSFUL. Every
spirit on Earth, woke up and teleported to Father, he was quite
pleased with our effort...and this armed the active Spirit armies.
Then we made a mistake. We had alerted the enemy of our 'awake'
positions and they came after us. The Bilderberg actively spell cast
against us with the help of the Moloch and El, and tried to make a
"law" to bind us. So we cast a binding spell BACK.
And in our request, we "invited" every single type of good spirit we
could think of including our "future selves"..remember I told you time
here is a construct...and they attacked back and blew up several of
the large installations.
We, as we were casting our request, got images (some mistake these
types of images for daydreams) showing what was happening. Then
we mailed each other to verify we were all seeing the same things,
validation to counteract the machines that cause doubt (bet you didn't
know that one!).
That is when we found Enki/Satan in the Bilderberg...we saw him.
And then he found a way to steal the energy of our request,
siphon it, and we had to stop because we were giving him power
that way. The Bilderberg redoubled their efforts with the EL helping,
but the awakening had already happened. And no matter what, the
spirits trapped here were now actively fighting with Father against the
snake families.
Oldsoul reply to lowsix:
That was ..um..rather long, so I'm not going to do the "quote"
thing..but reply this way. So I hope you receive this message.
The purpose was simply to explain the Divine couple. And what
is happening that I know of, and what has happened that I know
of. I neither have all the answers nor do I express that I do. As an

incarnate, the very nature is to be trapped in the Veil. My purpose

was to openly discuss these things.
I do know that things have been removed from books. That is a fact,
and anyone surfing the net has noticed things are still being removed.
I also know that the Cult of Moloch, and the "Family of 300" are real
and can be traced to antiquity because I have taken the time to
investigate this. I know that the education system has deliberately
been tampered with, and this has gone on for centuries ...by the same
groups over and over...and is visible in the lack of awareness or
connectiveness by "educated" people.
It did take me awhile to follow that thread, track it down...to Hoovers
famous quote "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." -J Edgar
Hoover F.B.I., 33rd Degree Freemason.
And this is when I looked at the ISD's and school systems, and then
looked at the Brain...and found they were deliberately creating
sociopaths....and WHY they would do that! He wouldn't tell you,
because he was afraid, pure and simple. I took the time to look up
ADD and ADH and "Restless leg syndrome"(that was too bizarre not
to) and wonder why no one recognized High frequency waves on the
Body.
I took the time to ask why was the Solar system changing, WATER
and Oxygen on MARS??? really? And the outer planets more than
300 times their previous output for 'thermal' images?
And like many, I was excited to hear the "Law of One" given to the
group channeling Ra. So many threads to tie together...till I finally
started having the experience of uncovering the whole sorry truth of it.
And worse, to find out what they had really done here, to all of Earth
and not just Earth. I was around when Betty and Barney Hill told their
story, and a young woman tracked down the star system.

The sad truth is 'academia' is not to be trusted. And I was never going
to tell anyone how to handle their day to day life. That is a personal
choice, and too many laws and regulations have been forced on us
that infringe on that god given right to free choice.
When you are GIVEN two choices, and all others are excluded what
choice are you really given? Clinton or Bush/Bush or Obama...what
choice is there really? And when you trace it back, and find both are
set ups...do you feel like choosing either? Or that you were even given
a choice? They couldn't even stop there! They had to rig the elections
so that their choice was put in!
I do insist on explaining the trick done with the word "Sin",
As for the astral being projected from here...well that is what they want
you to believe and all the books TODAY tell you that....However that is
not what the older texts state.
And until you remember going back and forth yourself, I have no idea
how I would prove it to you. However you do go back and forth all the
time, daily. And I have stated that the Astral is not a correct term, yet
by habit, I still use it.
What they told us to call the Astral, up, is in fact the real physical
plane of The Creation. Not a 'ghost' realm, or 'spirits' as in
ghosts...they mixed the terms up to mislead. And all this I have
stated before.
"Mythologies like this ultimately never deal with that, other than
blasting it with light, or 'awakenings" or one sort or another, of which
you have either NOT experienced (as evidenced by your natural
cynicism when questioning) or you will be embraced as someone who
'gets it"... the less hard questions you ask." you must expound on
that...I did not fully understand that point you were trying to make.

And yes there are 'holes'...things which I do not now, nor really, want
to know. I found that finding out that 'demons' in religion, and 'aliens' in
science, and the fact that they did in fact have SO much control of this
world, and this solar system to be more than I reeeeally wanted to
know consciously! I didn't really want to find out that they created
religions as a method of collecting a drug and food, or that the Vatican
was selling people for that purpose.
But I did find out. And I did catch them rounding up people for a
'harvest' ---as MEAT. And I did find out about the GFL, and Ra,
and finally found out that was all that was here, because they
owned 'here'.
People were scared of the cataclysms of 2012 because they had
real memories of the past cataclysms and this was due to the
snake family creating them...they were real. The asteroid belt and
damage on Mars and the Moon are real, and were caused by the
initial Invasion. Our real history was wiped, eons ago, and that is
why all the evidence world wide shows snake worship...it is all
that is left that is visible.
Archetypes are well and fine, but as you say they offer little to the
current world problems. Science is so tampered with they would have
you believe in "possession" before they would tell you it is possible
there is an Energy Life Form that can invade and take over the body.
They would have you believe that death is the end, with out explaining
why the spiritualists call this a vehicle...Avatar explained that concept
well though.
The brain is 90 percent dedicated to optics, and seeing for us, is
believing. But sometimes a person has to give the information that
their experience has found, with out visual aid. Referring to the
Movies, is a way to compensate for that lack of 'visual'.

But like everyone else, I accepted the teachings, and

explanations, etc., about dreams, about the astral...all of it. Until
one by one, everything I knew before, was undone by truth.
And the truth is there has been no truth on this world for
centuries....nothing we were taught, in our history or about the
astral was truthful, all of it had been altered or twisted.
I would like to hear your thoughts, on what YOU do when you sleep.
Do you remember any dreams? Ever? and do you think that the PTB
is simply doing this on their own, each being a different group? Or do
you recognize that they are 'cells' with the same agendas..different
names. Do you wait for the GFL and the Nordics to give you
technology and save you? Do you think that 2012 will be a hoax or
cataclysm?
As for myself, I hope we don't drag it on to 2012...it simply gives them
more time to do more harm. I hope the change comes very soon, so
that I can watch the children be free again. And men like yourself have
real education systems and not be concerned about what 'bill' to pay
today! You have a critical thinking mind, while I ramble and am
disorganized about it! And the world would be a very poor place if we
didn't have both kinds of minds here...so I'm not sorry for a debate,
and open discussion where by I learn as well as teach, it is all good.
And I am amazed my browser actually let me write something this
long! Talk about old rambling people! ha!
I can only imagine as well! I know of none personally, but have had
friends that knew of different reptile races being born now.
And the word was passed that they are to be the healers of their
races...And we need to remember, the Snake Families are a small
branch of the Reptile Branch. Not all have participated in this
slaughter. I know that Eve, Above, was pregnant with a new species of

reptile being, a little girl. And she is quite loving, and one of the ones
to take the race the next step to recovery.
Perhaps, speculation:), the woman is possessed of a Spirit that is one
of those races, downloaded to help rather than harm. I don't know. I
do know that Lilith is not good, and apparently is considered
unsalvageable as a Spirit. And that she is forbidden to return to
the real Creation or to Heaven above that.
lowsix wrote: The Return of a Mother will figure as prime in this
Recovery, i have zero Doubt.
She has been missing from the quaternity for nearly 6000 years. So
the reigning principle over the planet has been an artificially crippled
Triune, or Trinity, missing its completion counterpart. And a triangle,
while equilateral, is not balanced or stable.
She will be returning.
Oldsoul wrote: She has been missing much longer than that. If you
watched the archeology, and followed the forbidden archeology,
you find you have to go back even before Mu, to find her. And we
were told that was 'earth mother' those figurines of the 'mother
goddess'. It was Eve. And like all oversouls she can and does
incarnate.
But we are usually within the Creation...and as I've said, we are
below that now. As a part of the War strategy the divine couple
had to understand what they had done here and how to set us
free without killing the planet. It had never been seen before, this
NET they put us in, and NO ONE had ever thought to drop
someone below the physical plane, let alone deliberately.
The bible is a mix of truth and lie, and usually its more lie than truth.
But in this respect they told the truth. Eve is here now, and when she
leaves we are due to make the jump. they think that they can trap
her. And as you said she has to save herself, its not something

someone can do for her. And she had to accept responsibility, as

a creator for this mess, and that must be hard for a mother to do.
And until I was awake enough to have some control when I left
the body, I thought the same. And that is the entrainment of our
minds they have done here. That we would stand and blame
ourselves and leave them scott free!
And worse, actually have people choose them, never knowing
they were to be set up as the next 'civilization' somewhere else.
Another heard of 'beef'.And this would become the 'atlantis' that
was destroyed for its evil, another myth for them to point out how
bad we are, and how much we cant trust our own minds and
hearts, that we need their help and leadership.
I enjoy the conversation, thank you!

purplepanther wrote:One of the best post I have read on this site, If I

had to guess, you are on your ninth life like myself. Your story struck
many chords with me, I knew most of the information you spoke of
and maybe a little more in other areas. It was like reading a refresher,
I really need to take some down time and get dialed back in to
universal harmony.
Oldsoul: I'm afraid I've been stuck here far far longer. Since the
beginning of the War. Reincarnation is not the natural way.
Normally we die, on the real physical plane, and return to
"Heaven"...that point at infinity were it all began.
What they have done is trap anyone leaving...then put them to
sleep in one of their created 'heavens or hells' and when they
needed more consciousness units...people...for more
bodies...they would force us back into another body. Its hard for
us to imagine Races that can capture and contain a
consciousness.

But you have to realize this is Energy...all of it. And with that
knowledge and advanced technologies, millions of years older
than what we currently have, this was not as much of a problem
as you might think.

otomon wrote: Where do handicapped people fit in the gran scheme of

things oldsoul?
-Hentai Lord
Oldsoul: I was told and think it is true, that this is a method of torture
for the spirit trapped in the vehicle. A form of sabotage. Some of the
'cells' filtering in as 'captured victims' were identified. So they put them
in vehicles that would deliberately sabotage their lives here, as active
3d people, but they can't stop them from their job as a spirit. Not
completely anyway.
And a person who is handicapped here, is not handicapped when they
leave their vehicle, coming and going on the mission. It was NEVER
and I mean NEVER done to you by your real Father. He is your father
in the literal sense of the word.
And you came here to help free earth, and this galaxy from the
monsters that were created by these warlike races.
When a handicapped person, leaves this body now, in what we call
death. They are energetically transferred through the barrier to the
real Creation. And depending on their choice, whether they stay in the
physical, or choose a non physical existence, is whether they are
'clothed' in another vehicle. The vehicle forms around the crystalline
molecular structure provided by the Energy Spirit...and normally
through birth. But there are quite a few,sent in to this place, that still
have a body waiting for their return. And families waiting for them.

shrike12 wrote: Hello again, i've been thinking of a few questions to

ask you if you don't mind.
1) Do you know how these races became evil? It strikes me as odd
that races as far advanced as they are need us for energy/food.
2)Why us?
3)What is the purpose of the 12 teir net you were talking about? Why
12 and not 3 or 4?
4) Who are our allies?
5) Are there certain universal rules or laws that cannot be broken by
either side?
Thanks.
Oldsoul: It is my understanding, that a plan was formed to save
the Universe. We are not the only Universe, but ours was in
trouble. So these races became the 'bad guy' in order to provide
a catalyst to the rest. It was a do or die thing, how much of that is
correct, we'll have to wait to find out!
That was the problem, they were off limits from harvesting a food
source that was sentient. Its law, that is not allowed. The Law
'irked' them, I was told that one personally.
They found not only a 'beef' source, Reptiles eat Mammals, that is in
Nature, but they found that in this 'shell' they had created around
us...it bottled up the Emotional Body. They found this was unique to
our species, and stumbled upon a 'drug' produced by this emotional
body. A drug made of Energy, which they found a way to make a
'consumable' product. Like a heroine or crack addict, they would do
anything necessary to gain more and this descended them even
lower.

shrike12 wrote:
3)What is the purpose of the 12 tier net you were talking about? Why
12 and not 3 or 4?

Oldsoul: I don't know how it started, with one or two, but over time
they put layer after layer of 'prison' bars around this area of
space. To keep us captive, and all others who would free us
out...or capture them as well. They have the effect of putting the
Energy life form, a consciousness unit, to sleep. A type of brain
washing, and then keeping them asleep within the Avatar body.
Doubt, and 'its just my imagination' were the effects on the conscious
mind. They were stealing consciousness units...people in their
energy form...from all over the galaxy and dropping them into
this prison as a food source. A herd if you will, of a continuable
harvested product.
4) Who are our allies?
I have heard of Man species, Pleiadian (not greys but men), Sirians,
and I would actually have to look up the rest. But in essence it was
EVERYONE but the Snake Family Collective.
As in any Civil War, the lines and races blurred. I also found that not
a single contactee, or youtube, was really from them. It was all
the snake family members posing as them (like Tokio Rose in the
WW)...
Most of the allies who are helping us for real, are downloaded
into human bodies...Avatars....right now. Those are the allies on
the inside. A few are on this site...looking for answers, trying to wake
up.
5) Are there certain universal rules or laws that cannot be broken by
either side?
I was once told there are 'rules of engagement' and part of that was
contact was only to be made via the subconscious knock. However, I
see the Snake family break that rule all the time...like the Greys who

are the EL and abductions. Or the Moloch, who were the Sumerian
speaking race in the movie the Fourth Kind.
Our future Selves have contact with us if we 'request' it. You have to
'invite' your future good self, to make contact. Sometimes the systems
in place make it hard for you to receive their messages, but
sometimes they are able to make contact on the dream level. When
you leave your body at night...remembering though is more difficult,
especially lately. They seem to have shut down, rather effectively, our
memory of dreams. Some, including a friend of mine with CFS, are
wired for that purpose...to dream and remember all of it.
The future people said that they were led underground, like Mu,
Lemuria, Atlantis...and became the next generation of cyborg for the
Snake families. And that the Snake family succeeded, originally, in
creating the biblical ending of Revelations...a horror that Isreal
knowingly unleashed on the world.
That the PTB in Israel was the cult of Yahweh, who is Satan/Enki, and
that was the agenda...nuclear war, global cataclysm and Nibiru
Crossing.
They said that altering the timeline was accomplished by The One.
And that now, these things did not happen, what happened instead is
that this moment in time in May, we won the War and put an end to the
Snake Family Collective.
And that all humanity, mankind, was free now, and had set up
museums showing how the Allies on the inside did this. That with the
exception of the infiltrating ptb Snakes, every man woman and child
here today was considered Hero's. Their names and history are now
published record for all to see and understand in the museum.
According to them there is no more controlling monetary system. This
tool (money) had been seized by Rothschild who was a Snake Family
member in human form, and therefore they removed it completely to

stop them from starving the populations (which is what they are
currently doing). Thats what was done was not a collapse of the
monetary system but a removal of Money from the system by the
Divine Couple. They returned to the Barter System.
They said that the Barter system as we are currently taught is not
correct or true. That what they have done, removes the '5 day work
week' and no one ever starves or has their power cut off, or any
shortages for anything. All the shortages we experience now, are the
contrived squeeze of the ptb, and deliberate.
That we were taught people were lazy and wouldn't work if this current
system was removed and that is not true either. Working gives self
confidence and self esteem and the only difference is the 'stress and
pressure' is gone and this makes working a pleasure and
accomplishment now (future now)
We vacation when we want..basically...we learn and school the proper
way...no more autocratic academia. Teachers are now returned to
their status of respect because there is no more harassment or
berating of the children and more understanding of the brain and
learning. And that our minds and thoughts, no longer altered, allow for
higher learning and connectivity--telepathy--which makes for easier
understanding of things.
I find relief in that. Knowing that they are all happy and well.

cee420 wrote:T here is no proof the re-incarnation is fact, and exists.

Past life memories can be false-memories ..and tricks by the 'mindstream' ..sort of like "un conscious channeling"-phenomenon.
re-incarnation is just another human-belief just like a belief in biblical
heaven.

Oldsoul: Well, that is true on several levels. First: they were recycling
the spirit into a body whenever they wanted an increase in the 'herd of
beef' to harvest. That is what we called reincarnation...they had to
explain the residual memories the mind wipe didn't completely erase.
And they were known to implant memories when they choose, to
whomever they choose. So someone here for the first time would think
they had been here forever!
The Snake Families invented misdirection and disinformation.
And one of the things they did was copy the hierarchy of the set
up Above, here. And that is where we learned of heaven, here.
The Heaven described by religion is not the real Heaven, that was
Yahweh's game in particular. He was over 'Heaven and Hell' ...a
prison for the consciousness to be held until their next use. Like the
'well of souls'.
The real Heaven does exist. It is that point in Infinity where everything
has ended, and everything is just beginning. You are an Energy being,
that is a part of the supra consciousness of Intelligent Infinity which is
called the Creator Force. In the normal Creation we return when we
die. That was stopped here, for eons. You were not returning, until just
now as the nets are being removed and people when leaving their
body are able to find the doorway out.
I think that the High frequency wave is connecting our minds once
more, to the real world. Like plants are interconnected, so are we.
That link of subconsciousness was broken at 7.8 mhz. I think it must
be reconnecting now.
I finally had a break through last night myself, from a block placed on
my 'sight' for months now. It not only was clearer it was more than I
was looking for! and all 3dimensional and in color. I think their
machines and tech is being removed from our bodies and we will start
gaining more of the sight back as well as a sense of 'knowing' a thing.

I had to delete the physics portion to be able to fit the video in the
format. So I'll try and explain some of it here, first.
Iridium is an Element on the Periodic Table. However it is not an
element FROM Earth, although it is Deposited here from ancient
Impacts. Iridium is Comet dust.
One of the Earliest experiments from Space Exploration, found that
the molecular structure...the Atom...does not behave the same OFF
world as it does with material ON world.
The experiments proved that Atomic structure moved 'freely'
when samples were taken from off world, such as the Moon. But
the samples from Earth, all the Atoms are "bound" in such a way
as to not be able to move Freely. They could not see what was
binding the Atomic structure here, it was an invisible energy that their
instruments were unable at that time to recognize or record. The only
way they could decipher this 'bound' molecule was observation of the
molecules movement and response to their tests.
In one test more recently they split an Atom, and the two halves were
separated. When something was done to one half, the other
separated half responded instantly. There was no time delay, it moved
at the same instant the stimuli was introduced to its other half.
When Iridium is heated to 850 degrees F. it does something that was
amazing. It disappeared in the test tube. When it cooled it reappeared.
What they finally were able to understand, is that the Iridium wasn't
altering to a different State such as a gas. It was PHASING out of this
Time/Space into another Time/space that is Above us in Frequency
(the vibratory speed of the Atomic Structure) but still occupying space
here. So that when the excited molecules from the heat, slowed down
with cooling, it became solid in the same space having never left the
test tube at all.

When it Phases UP it becomes solid within the upper Vibratory plane,

as it was here. It can move back and forth, in other words. The same
thing was reported with the Philadelphia experiment victims. Some
who allegedly had to be wired up with a device that would slow their
molecular speed down to remain in this Plane.
This is precisely what is happening on Earth.
NASA has removed the images, but if any of you sleuths here can find
it...about 2 years ago now, they had pictures of Earth Emitting Light
straight up and into space...From its core. There was around the same
time an image from the north..Sweden north...where people in a park
were startled to see what looked like big spot lights coming from the
ground straight up into space as well.
Then there is the sound factor. NASA has a Vid still out of Io's sounds,
but removed Earths sounds...which they did have....and the Earth
sounded very much like it was screaming!
SOUND AND LIGHT
This Heat, from the high Vibration is not always present when
speeding up the Atom. However, it is deliberately done here on Earth
at this time. And this is why the poles were melting from beneath, and
why the ground is cracking from heat...although solar light output has
been 'dimmed' according to the crop output (agro science) in Egypt.
The simple truth is Reptiles have no thermostat and can not regulate
their body temperature the way Mammals can. This is a War we are
caught in between. Axis vs Allies.
And for all the centuries, only the Axis has had control...which is why
so many believe that "Satan" is god of Earth. All we have seen, and all
of our science, has been dictated to and by the Axis Groups.

This is why Keely and Tesla, and so many others who stumbled upon
the Sound and Light link to Energy, were removed and hidden from
the public. We would have developed, very quickly, the technology to
"See" the Axis hiding behind the higher frequency. Only the Axis could
get in and out with impunity. Remember WWI and II, it was a case of
getting behind enemy lines, and not being caught!
Instead of coming HERE to the LOWER PLANE OF VIBRATION, they
are PULLING US UP to their plane.
And that is the hardest thing of all to understand....the most Damning
Trick they played on us!
So what they did, was take Planet Earth, which was Eden....
AND SPLIT THE PLANET INTO TWO DISTINCT PLANES
And this was the source of much speculation within the old texts, from
south america to the celts. So it was disbelieved, or thought to be
metaphoric. It was not. This is a very high ordered group of beings we
are dealing with.
Edens Earth is on the Physical Plane Within The Creation
Our Earth was DROPPED BELOW THE PHYSICAL PLANE
(My Note: This was precisely depicted in the first Matrix Movie.
When NEO first meets with Morpheus and Morpheus transports
them inside the television screen, he explains that they are living
inside a holographic Matrix where everything looks fine but
then he shows him the Real Earth which looks war torn and
devastated. This is exactly what Oldsoul is saying - that in the
REAL Galactic Wars, Our Real Earth in the Heavenly Realm above
is, our real home world, was decimated in the war but that Father
God has since restored it to its Eden status and is ready for our
return!)

We were lowered in Vibratory rate to the point of a ROCK...7.8

mhz, for centuries.
They spliced the genetic make up of Galactic Man (12 strand
DNA) with other DNA including snake (Hu)Man and gave us the
saboture, the Reptile Brain. People still do not understand what
the reptile brain is, but they now know it is the source of
Sociopathic behavior...more on that later.
With This new Avatar Vehicle, they took people from Eden, and
EVERYWHERE ELSE they captured people, and then wiped the
mind and downloaded the consciousness units into the new,
stripped down version of the Avatar that was multiple times more
'dense' and 'heavy' and had the Vision, and the Mind altered.
Consciousness is directly tied to the Force. When they Lowered
the Brain Frequency, they Lowered the Mind to a more primitive
state. It was no longer capable of higher states of
comprehension. Like explaining Oxygen to Neanderthals,
explaining this supposedly 'mystical and unseen force' that is the
energy of the Force, was impossible. Their minds could not
comprehend it.
But by raising the Vibratory frequency, you will see that we are
becoming more consciously aware, and have more 'sympathy'
for each other....because we are once again becoming more
connected...via the Force.
All we were then taught, was taught by these people - we were
taught that man was bad, and that all of this ... these 'problems'
are due to man being corrupt. This is the basic war time
propaganda, and what it does is make the subconscious take
blame...for something that is not its fault or the fault of the Spirit
trapped here within these Avatar type bodies.

And this is why you hear so many say, they feel like they do not
come from here...they dont. We were captured and then put into
the 'same' bodies to look alike..but there are races here from all
over the galaxy.
This Lowered frequency, had the effect of "putting us to sleep" in
a manner of speaking.
When the vibration is going on, you on the planet, don't really
feel it...the merger. But the Merger is in fact going on right
now..we are about half way through it.
The Snake Families are doing everything they can to disrupt that
frequency with things that cause a low frequency to be emitted.
War...anger...fear....And if they can Cataclysm.
This merger can be managed without trauma, were it not due to
their maneuvers. There would be no problems in other words, we
would just wake up one day different! Not phased into
objects...its controlled by One. And the first Law is "Do no Harm".
So it would not be so harrowing had it not been for the sabotage
of these species. We are their food source, and the source of a
very powerful drug to which they have become addicted.
In my study of Alchemy, I found all of it to be related..to frequency.
They had created a 'shell' around the Atom. And this was SET and his
wife TIAMATT. And this is the origin of the word "MATTER". Alchemy
was unlocking Matter. I give you the Key now. All Matter is unlocked
with Sound. It responds like a crystal...like a piezio electric..and it
morphs. And this was called the Transmutation of Matter. It works. But
is now moot point.

heinousone wrote:
oldsoul wrote:So what they did, was take Planet Earth, which was
Eden....AND SPLIT THE PLANET INTO TWO DISTINCT PLANES
And this was the source of much speculation within the old texts, from
south america to the celts. So it was disbelieved, or thought to be
metaphoric. It was not. This is a very high ordered group of beings we
are dealing with.
Edens Earth is on the Physical Plane Within The Creation
Our Earth was DROPPED BELOW THE PHYSICAL PLANE
So basically, we live in Hell.
Oldsoul: "Hell" is a myth Yahweh who is Enki, created. There is no
hell, but there is a plane below the Creation plane and we are on it!
heinousone wrote:So if the Iridium phases out and into another sort of
dimension then are there beings there that see the iridium phase
INTO being? If so what would their reaction be?
Oldsoul: It phases into the Creation Plane.
What the phasing did was make the Creation plane "ghostly" to us.
And this is what we were calling ghosts...for the most part. Although
there are disincarnates here, trapped too.
So the myths continued within our memories, of flying and being other
than we are now. And to explain how people could live for hundreds of
years, or how they could do 'magic' they created propaganda to
mislead anyone searching for the truth.
The truth is the real body you were 'born' into is called the
Incorruptible body. And most of those bodies still exist on the upper
plane, in a type of stasis. Like Sleep.

What Father is going to do is PULL all LIFE...all the

consciousness units.......from the 'shell' of Matter created to cage
them and return them to their real body. Like an upload. Those
whose body is gone, with the war, have a choice...stay within the
creation and father will manifest a new body around the spirit...or
return all the way further up to heaven.
Now this sounds a bit like the stories of 'rapture'...but again...it is not.
It is done by 'merging' the energetic states together, and for the most
part people will simply wake up and look outside and notice the sky
has changed. We will no longer be seeing a holographic blue sky. I
don't know how long it will take for people to realize that the 'colors'
they are seeing are God in Energetic form....but they will.
And the Higher the frequency rises, the more connected our minds will
become. And at the point of telepathy he will talk to you personally.
This was a War of Strategy, I'm often told. And so how do you get an
Allied force within a closed society during a war?
Only Father can create a Spirit, and the Reps could make 'meat
bodies' but had no spirit to animate it. Now the ungodly truth is most
Reptiles require live prey....they would tear and render us, and then
the 'spirit' was recaptured and placed in another cloned body. And this
provided them with a constant 'harvest'.
The drug they now require is created from the emotional body of the
spirit....so they would 'milk' us. They were feeding on our Life Force
Energy, and that was the purpose of the Churches. We'll talk about the
Chateau Le Rennes another time though.
So Father gave the "call" to all within the Creation. And all responded.
And it must have been a very scary thing to volunteer to be 'meat' for
these things...but that is exactly what they did. They allowed
themselves to be captured, minds wiped, and then downloaded for the

duration of the War...which let me tell you wasn't as short as some

seem to think...from an inside point of view that is!
*** SACRED MISSION TO INCARNATE AS A COSMIC
REPORTER FOR FATHER GOD AND THE ALLIES***
Do you have, or have you noticed that you "OCD" on something?
Then you are a spy for the Allies....we had to figure out what
'matter' was and how it worked so spent lifetimes in Alchemy
decoding it..with no memory to draw on!
Have you noticed that you are DRIVEN to find out what the PTB
are up too? Are you called a "conspiracy nut"? Then You are a
spy for the Intelligence section. When you out a plot, the spirit
takes it Up with them and tells Father and the Allies.
Have you noticed that you will get 'fixated' on a subject? And
then drop it after a period, whether days or years? Then you are
working out things, figuring them out, and taking that mechanical
knowledge up...
You see, the rest of Creation had never seen anything like this
before...It was completely unknown and new.
As the Wave connects our minds further, you will notice that people
will start 'waking up' and this isn't just that they will suddenly see your
point of view or believe you, it is more an ability to "make connections"
and see the relatedness of a thing. This was blocked from us
deliberately.
Have you ever run into people, and been totally frustrated at their
inability to comprehend what you are telling them. And we attribute it
to "stupidity---dense/thick headedness" and "a-hole personality" and a
host of other things because that is what we were 'taught'.

In truth it was the combined effect of the Lower Vibration, and the
external and internal mind control implants they are/were using. These
are being taken down now. They are phased (most of them) just out of
sight, but literally all around you. Towers emitting low frequency waves
with 'instructions' that deliberately make people choose denial...or not
'see' a thing.
Look at all the mind control techniques and technology we already
have, that are known to alter thought patterns and take it up several
notches. These are the people that invented this technology, and all
you see now is hundreds of years behind what they are using.
I dont remember all the "Laws" but I do remember that the Law for
the rising up is that nothing of the old will remain, it will all be
new. And part of that is 'anger' and 'bitterness'. And although I
have personal issues with it *grin* ...what they are going to do is wipe
our minds again. In a way that allows you to know, but as if it were a
movie or a disconnected feeling of 'thats not you'...
Part of the (Snake Family) technology, as I've said before, was to
hook us up like 'batteries'. And the negative emotions were used
as the negative pole for the transfer of our energy to the
technologies they were using against us. In other words, we were
the power supply for their weapons.
If you have noticed, the feelings in our bodies and emotions are
changing. We feel the need to 'stop', as if things just don't matter as
much to us now, or as if we no longer can work up quite the anger
feelings that we used to have over the same subject. The 'anger' itself
has changed. Yes, we still can be upset...but it takes a REAL
EFFORT now to maintain that feeling of 'anger'.
Father is already here in an energetic state. Remember always...you
are dealing with a Being of Pure Energy...a Life form...and that Being
is larger than a solar system.

And what he has done is 'enter' through the Energy Net that the
Snake have created around Earth...That was VERY tricky. Like playing
skip rope...over and under the Net strings to get in...layer after layer of
net strings ...the "12 Aethers".
And what he has done is Energetically, entered into all bodies here.
Flowing through you, he is removing the anger and he calls this a
'douching'.
The OCD'ing is slowing down, the conspiracies are slowing down, and
this is to be able to 'unplug' you from these devices that are pulling
your energy and powering up their weapons. You cant see them, like
iridium they are phased...but they are literally attached to every single
persons body...on the planet.
Now the last of the 'clearing' is going on. People are clearing the
memories of the past traumas and lives here. This is expressed in
many ways....for instance for me it was Nibiru's crossing. That was a
huge one for me. I remembered it in the past, it was a horror...the
movie 2012 doesn't even come close although it does show some of
it. Feeling the 'need' to stockpile supplies and seeds, feeling the need
to move to higher ground...all of it. It took awhile...after remembering
and the fear...to get the message through that this was NOT going to
happen any more...not now...not ever.
It took longer..because I remembered it was 3 cycles, like the hands of
a clock, all lining up at one time...rather than staggered as usual. One
was 3650 years, another was 26,000 years and the last was the
76,000 year cycle. 2009 to 2012. None of them will happen. And the
reason we got fixated on them, and were so sure we were right, was
because we had lived them--they were real-- and we were clearing the
memories. Nothing of the old can go forward..see?
When we dream, we were told this was 'metaphors'. And as discussed
before this is not correct. What happens is the Avatar sleeps...and we

the Spirit leave the body. And that is right here, but phased, and in that
phased state we were fighting the war from within.
What the machines were doing was putting memory patches over the
images and memories of the Spirit. So that the conscious mind would
not remember what the subconscious..that was awake and fighting the
war...was doing. Now that these machines are being
disconnected...memories during 'dream time' are not being as
'patched'.
So we are getting dreams, that feel more like 'lucid' dreaming, of
Fighting. Some Fighting is still going on. This is expressed in the
waking time, as anger or upset when confronted by some of these
conspiracies and wrongs done to us by the PTB. We are still clearing
the Snakes off Earth. Inanna who is Lilith, and Enki who is Satan, are
still here fighting with their loyal minions. They are still playing "gods
and demons" with us...
People are remembering seeing those Robotic things they
created...that was Zeus's Andromeda Fleet for the main part. They
created a type of cyborg. The spirit they put inside it was screaming in
agony. You see they told us these were "AI's" as in not alive. But it is
actually a spirit, caught and reprogrammed for the interface with a
machine and a biologic machine.
The sheer NUMBER of these Axis groups, and the shear number
of individual plots they cook up to ferment trouble within our
society, was staggering. Star Wars didn't even come close.
The Universal Mind connects all Life. And the way that...during the
war...they were able to get messages in was in the form of the 'artists'
who are able to get a 'vision' of an idea. So it would slip the idea, and
then the artist would work it until they got as much of the vision as
possible, and then they would translate it into their medium.

With the advent of TV and Movies, they had found one of the best
methods. It then became a point that the other side infiltrated that
medium to try and slow it down. If you look at the movies, from the
50's of "50 million years to Earth" you will see the science, and the
'mind' expressed in the actors words and behaviors is of a higher
intelligence and believabilty than is what is currently out now.
But, by the same token, our side got better at FX. Seeing is believing
because 90% of the brain is devoted to the optics. And in this manner
the Allied forces have been slipping us information and concepts to
raise our awareness where science, which had be subverted, was
failing (The Truman Show, The Matrix movies, Avatar) So we got
the concept...teleportation, solid holograms...and all of it..War with in a
Galaxy...Reptile races....all by the 'visions' of the artists. This was their
job on the inside.
So the Arts and Entertainment was being heavily infiltrated by both
sides. And as incarnates, neither were allowed to know the nature of
the "nighttime" activities.
On one side you had the visionaries...and on the other you had the
people like the "Jewish Mafia" in Hollywood. Then you saw the
celebrities, like Caradine(sr) and others get deep into the black
arts...and all who get involved end up badly. There is a price when you
are dealing with the Snake Families.
And all the while, at night they were fighting...and in the day or night
they were subject to being "Taken".
You have to understand...Time is Linear...and it is a CONSTRUCT.
And this is something that is maneuverable to those with the
technology to do so within this 'bubble' that this Earth is in. So they
stop things, do what they will, and then restart things. I remember how
staggered I felt, even knowing that they were able to do this on
individuals and "missing time"....It never once, since Betty and Barney,

till about 3 years ago...not ONCE did I consider that they were doing
the ENTIRE PLANET THAT WAY.
Even when I finally figured out that the "dream" I had at 15, of
everyone in Houston Texas being Taken, Hundreds of Ships over
head...It never occurred to me they were coming into the Planet
atmosphere at will and stopping the whole Planet. They were
harvesting everyone at will.
It was only when I found out they had stopped the planet and
moved it, to alter the Sun....and that was when I found out. Like
the movie "Dark City" or "The Forgotten" with Susan Serandon. I
was staggered.
So what they were doing is harvesting the "meat" and putting the
conscious units back into clones. And those that were not recloned for
some reason or another, the survivors were given memory patches, to
have an 'alibi'..an 'explanation' for why that person was dead. And this
is what was done to the woman in the Movie the Fourth Kind when
they killed her husband.
The reason they heard Sumerian spoken is because it was the
Language spoken by Liliths people. The Moloch...if you access my
image files, (I havent posted any on this space yet) you will find the
"Babylonian Demon" and that is what a Moloch is. This is who
the Bilderbergs are in league with. That is why they are using the
Statue of Moloch at the 'ceremonies'. The PTB...its like the old
cannibal joke ...they INVITE you for dinner. You are so flattered such
important people would want to have dinner with you...that it NEVER
occurs to you...YOU are the main course.
Inanna/Lilith is the "Owl". That memory patch of an owl watching them
was a flaunting of their "flag". This is the "Owlman of Cornwall" and on
the Nazca Plains, its drawn there too.

Every time they clone us, they implant us. That vid that someone
else put up the other day..shows the "CIA" and "Government" is
tied to those frequency bands...They are tagging us like beef.
That is what they consider us as..beef.
And every time they clone us they alter the body a bit. They keep
trying to stop our abilities you see...its not enough that they have brain
washed the entire population to believe their 'myths' and 'there is no
such thing' ..'just your imagination'.
The SUBCONSCIOUS REMEMBERS EVERYTHING. And it is directly
tied to the Spirit/Consciousness unit. So they were trying to stop us by
altering us. Cancers, plagues, all of these increases in diseases...were
them. It is so hard for us to imagine.
But we are not dealing with only one group. We are dealing with a
COLLECTIVE of Races, all who have made us the main focus of
their Civilizations as a primary food source.
heinousone wrote:How did you come to find out these things? These
stoppings of Time as you describe?
The more free of the devices and implants, the more 'awake' the mind
gets. And instead of 'going to sleep' when they hit the button...part of
you stays awake and ..watches. You cant physically move..the whole
thing is frozen in place.
otomon wrote:Yeah oldsoul do you have all of your data in a word
document? It would be really helpful.
Oldsoul: No I've never written any of it down. When I saw some of the
posts here one day...I decided, that since they really cant get me any
worse than they already have....and they were on their last
stand....that it would be best to tell people. If something should
happen to me, you would then still have the information to move
forward with.

People will be initially frightened when the sky Net is removed. It

is up to you to tell them, that the Law Giver, which is the only way
to say it to someone who has been brain washed all their
lives...use their terms for it...is back. People will think they will be
'judged'...and that is not what will happen. There is no penalty for
a 'victim' here.
One of the BIG LIES that I have to tell you now...is "Daydreaming"
We've often heard the expression "between two worlds".."not quite
here"..."mind is somewhere else"
Like dreaming we were told it was the imagination.
It is NOT. It is a person that is literally half here and half
'there'...ABOVE
Even with the memory patching covering up, you are 'SEEING'. This is
the "SIGHT". And you can do it at will even now.
I was near 50, when I met someone. And they started in a
conversation one day about a daydream they kept having as a kid...it
went on for years. And in that day dream they were in a desert, and
rescuing kids...and always in the desert, and always walking and
taking care of babies.
And it stopped me cold...because I went through years of the exact
same daydream. And this person was more awake than I was. This
person was an Illuminati child, if any of you know what they do to
those kids...and they had escaped. And it was this person, who is a
pyrotech, that told me that we had been rescuing children. And that
they had not been told or understood, until late adulthood either.
The video I did was too long so I cut it...
but I was going to explain it in another... so I'll explain it here

We used to draw a circle with our finger in the dirt. Remember we are
talking about energy..and molecular energy as in an anode.
We used the bare finger, because a tool leaves a different 'energy
signature'. The Circle is the equivalent of a 'coil' of copper wire. The
energy flows in a circle, once you've drawn it...that is part of the Body/
Vehicle being a 'movable Node' on the string of force. (this is where
the expression "close not the ends of my Cross" comes from)
Then we made an "x marks the spot" within the circle. A Cross. We
planted a seed at the intersection of the two lines. The two lines are
the positive and negative lines of the Force. Then we simply 'focused'
our thought at the x seed spot, and the plant instantly sprouted and
grew, and fruited. And this was called Crossing. And this is why you
see the 'snake' around the 'cross'. SET telling you it is No longer
allowed in occupied territory. The old game "food as a weapon".
I've only come across one piece of work with a reference to that. And
of course they always refer to it as 'secret knowledge'. That work is
online "Dweller on two planets, by Phylos". In it he gives a description
that they called the "Maxim".
Its real name is the "Creation Flame". It has a negative and a
positive pole...and is still useable on this earth today.
What they did was tamper with our brain. The key to using this talent
is the ability to 'focus' without 'mind chatter'. We are always told that it
is our own mind doing this...it is NOT. It is the saboture implants and
the reptile brain.
If you focus, within the "Golden Silence" for 3 min or more,
anything you 'imagine' in your mind...any image you create is
called a "thought form" and it can be Manifested into reality
using the Golden Silence. No starvation, No housing shortages,
or fuel shortages...you see? They would have lost control of you,
and that is why it was done.

So SET put fear into us, just like the Nazi occupied territories..but this
went on for centuries, and the brain washing continued for
generations. So that anyone who mentioned these things was killed...if
not by the Snakes themselves, then by our own people who were
'religious' by that point.
It is the Snake families, who noticed something odd when they first
lowered and erased the mind. The reptile brain will automatically
search and set up 'rituals' and 'hierarchies'. Not remembering what
had happened we had these giants (they had dwarfed us to keep
control of us) demanding us to give up our family members to be
eaten...and they told us they were Gods, and that is as far as our shut
down minds could go.
heinousone wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
heinousone wrote:How did you come to find out these things? These
stoppings of Time as you describe?
The more free of the devices and implants, the more 'awake' the mind
gets. And instead of 'going to sleep' when they hit the button...part of
you stays awake and ..watches. You cant physically move..the whole
thing is frozen in place.
You do realize how much this is sounding like "The Matrix"?
Edit: For those that might misunderstand my intent, this is not me
attempting to demean what Oldsoul is saying.
Oldsoul: Thats why I was explaining the Arts. they were trying to
give you the 'concept' it was so far out of our
understanding....The truth is like ALL OF THOSE MOVIES,
EXCEPT ALL TIED TOGETHER

If the arts and entertainment field has been infiltrated THEN it would
make total sense as to why it sounds like the Matrix. I myself believe
that disclosure has been happening through movies, tv and books for
years now.
Almost since its inception/creation...they found it an extraordinary
method to give the masses a 'concept' in visual terms (seeing is
believing) to make them understand the concept.
This was a MASSIVE WAR
It involved not just our universe, our galaxy...it involved EVERY
LEVEL OF THE CREATION ALL THE WAY TO HEAVEN ITSELF
When you see the Matrix
that is the UPPER LEVEL
that is why a "name" is so important...and why a "demon" can be "cast
out" if you know its name
If you know the name, tied to you is your spirit...those ABOVE (similar
to the unplugged people hacking in--in the movie matrix) HEAR IT
They can then HACK the CODE and alter it...whomever...by hacking
it. By similar case, the 'demon' which lived for hundreds of thousands
of years, could then hunt us EVERY TIME we were shoved back into
another body (reincarnated) life time after life time in this place
heinousone---yes, it resonates with people
So the reason our frequency is rising is the merger with the
upper plane.
Not a death. Not a cataclysm, unless we miss one of the Snakes
tricks...they planted Trojans EVERYWHERE! Its important, that
everyone understands this.

It is important that you warn people who are contacting the GFL,
and others like "yahweh"...and the like. Even if they don't want to
hear it.
We're worried the snakes are going to do a last minute snatch
and grab food run.
You see they are so very believable, such consummate liars, that
these people will think that these are there relatives. I remember
one contactee of the greys saying that they showed her a contract
with her signature on it..that she had agreed to go with them, and she
didn't remember because of the veil. She believed them...after all they
had proof...her signature.
And then there are the cases were Enki has openly met with people,
cloaking the ugliness of his form, and convinced them they were
relatives of Nibiru. Again, with proof, and they believe him. I don't
blame them, the system is set up that way..they didn't have a chance.
However...they are not bound by the Snakes unless they choose the
Snakes. And this allows Lilith to 'seal' them with her seal instead of
Dad/s. And by "Law" there is nothing he can do..free will. (My Note:
According to comments made by Yellow Rose in recent 2014
videos, she said God/The One has since rescinded this and that
there will still be opportunity to choose which family you want to
go with at The Gathering)
So with the implantation of the Reptile brain, and through Entrainment
that has been deliberately built into our societies, they have created
the perfect Vehicle..for themselves to use. People are being driven to
kill each other. Men killing women, women killing their children...and
society, because just like in Atlantis, Lemuria, and Mu...only sees the
human being......thinks "man" is bad. This is how they are conditioning
the subconscious mind to accept blame for this. After all, look at the
proof!

It isnt until you leave the vehicle, that your true mind comes back as
well as the real memory of the incident...and you find it was the snake
family doing this. You had lost control of the Vehicle.
If the subconscious was conditioned to accept the blame, they would
have an alibi with ONE, you see. "Its not our fault, after all they DID
the deed!" Another Nazi trick.
This will not occur. Dad and Eve both incarnated within this place...to
gain insight as to how they were doing these things. Living under the
veil, the whole works....and only recently did dad leave, and eve is still
here.
I know eve is still here but due to leave very soon. And once she is
Up, then the Earth will be pulled the rest of the way up. NOT
2012...NOW. This is soon. I know this because I am one of the
Escorts going Up with her. The minute she leaves the body, they will
pull me too. Drop me dead. I wanted to stay with my children, and this
made me stay longer....the end of the line for me is when Mom goes I
go. This caused me unending distress....until I finally got the message.
NOT DEATH ...just UP. And they will be 'seconds' behind me. Again,
not death...but riding on the planet! (My Note: In 2014 Rose stated
that not everything she wrote back in 2010 panned out exactly as
she was sensing at the time, in terms of The Leap happening
before 2012. But much progress has been made in terms of
people waking up to the truth about the Matrix and alot of the
Snake Families booby traps being identified and removed. We
are definitely much closer to Liberation but it is still one of the
most complex and delicate rescues to ever be performed so we
cannot lose faith in Father and the Allies and do everything to
keep our bodies healthy and our vibration High!)
Thats when I started 'seeing' portions of my real body still waiting
upstairs for me. The Incorruptible body...I always thought of that as
Death. Boy what a nasty trick they played on us. Downloading us into
avatars and then removing our memories....Everyone who "dies" is

unceremoniously DUMPED BACK onto the real physical plane. And

expecting 'heaven' it was a shock to find...they still needed to eat...and
they still needed to potty! *GRIN*
The Above earth ...Eden...was really destroyed by the Reptilians. They
didn't hide there. I wont tell you about that, but it was occupied
territory with races that eat humans and are anthea to good...pure evil.
Father has fixed it though. And he has fixed...one by one...all the
planets, Sirius, the Pleiades..within this Galaxy that the Snake
Families tore up in their war path.
I know these things for sure...You will see colors that you've never
seen before, because he has created some new ones, as a method of
keeping you 'snake free'. We haven't seen colors, with our altered
eyesight here, and we forgot all the other colors that existed because
of the mind wipe.
You will be returned to the Incorruptible body or go all the way up
to Heaven...but it is YOUR FREE WILL CHOICE. When we return,
our memories and what is called "Empowered knowledge" will be
returned to us. The EL blocked it from us, leaving only Lillith with it,
and that is why she was able to tell her cults that she was the 'tree of
knowledge'...another BS line from the Snakes. And at that point you
will be in a position to choose because you will have all the facts.
We have misnamed this the "third density". Its proper name is The
Third Order. I have been told but am unsure...that Some will choose to
return to the Third Order in other places. For the experience. And no
snakes will tamper with them and their lives will be free and beautiful.
And when they return from surfing, you'll see them again.
And the other thing I know for sure is that it is a Family reunion
in Eden first. A big party. And there will be honors for the war
heroes. MANY races besides Man, came to Earths aid. And they

WILLINGLY allowed themselves to be capture, tortured, and lived

under the veil with us as Warriors in Hiding.
If you have had unexpected dreams of fighting...where you are
rescuing someone, without thought, you simply KNEW what to do and
grabbed them and ran or protected them. YOU are one of those
hidden warriors still under the veil.
You are surprised because by day you are flawed in some
way...perhaps your body here is overweight, or you feel 'heavy' and
are clumsy...or your mind is 'not that type', a flower girl, or you think
you're a 'wuss' because you back down here to the ptb kind.....this is
how they disguised you.
You back down, because you would have blown your cover. You feel
heavy because your home world is not as 'dense' as here. You are
overweight because the real you is a very buffed up warrior, and you
were in hiding on the inside. Those who are handicapped though, from
birth...that was the Reptiles who did that to you. They caught you out,
and this is how they 'punished' you...a form of torture. You will be back
in your original body soon, and with no handicap. On the plane above,
the higher vibration allows for healing and transformative processes
that have been blocked here.
Then there are the others who out right stand up to things here. And
that was their jobs too. But the greater majority are in hiding. I can
think of a couple of examples, whose names you might have heard
because they have reached 'celebrity' status. Peggy Kane, with
Reverse Speech, and David Icke with the Reptilian
connections...those are the only two that I can think of at nearly 2
am...but there are others.
And they are made to look 'crazed' or have 'crazy ideas' because that
is the mind programming kicking in to deny that these things are real.
That old saying "the biggest trick the devil ever played was to make
you think he wasn't real". They suffer attacks, and everything else we

do but on a more direct line of attack. At the forefront of the battle.

They are messed with, but still stand and tell the truth, or as close as
they can get to truth in this place, and that supreme effort is heroic in
its very nature.
But every single person here, with the exception of Lilith crew,
will be rewarded and acknowledged for their heroism in the "War
in Heaven".
Its my understanding Lilith and minions get the "Pit". I read esoteric
material about the "Pit" and I don't think that it is quite as is written
here. But she's terrified of us returning to our Empowered
Knowledge...I know that for a fact. They all are. You see the truth is we
are ABOVE them as far as species go. And they are worried we will be
enraged at what they have made us do...murder rape..all of it...and I
don't think we should tell them JUST yet *grin*..thats not what
happens. Let them stew!
Lilith/Inanna is around Venus with her crew. That flare the Sun threw
off on the first was Mom...she had a FIT at what Lilith was doing. I
asked why were the Mayan so worried about Venus at this particular
moment in time. If you dont know, the mayan had a real thing about
Venus, and were worried about it, called it 'the betrayer'. Lilith had
moved its orbit to sweep past earth and rip off the atmosphere right
before our final jump...and when I asked about it the plot was
uncovered and two days later Mom hit Lilith back at the Sun. Did
anyone else see that ship shoot out of there but me? They caught it
on camera, NASA I believe, and someone posted it here.

Now they are shooting another asteroid at us. Did everyone see that
vid on the asteroid that just suddenly was found to be in our path...in
August..now? So I'm sure someone will remove that too. Nothing will
be allowed, if they can out it and stop it, to do harm to us as we
make the final jump.

I hear alot of people are seeing the breakdown of the barrier. And
when I just checked I was told No, that Lilith and some of the El
renegades had been 'fishing' for us. I am also told that the last of them
are routed.
What they had initially said was that 'all life' ...all of Eve's
children...trees, pets, all of it and us ...would be 'pulled' out of this
Avatar. That we 'went wild' with the first freedom we had had in
centuries.
Remember, we are Energy based Life forms originally. The plan was
that we would move through the Net, there is an Exit now, and then
we would return to our original avatar..the incorruptible body. And this
is a physical plane of existence...and the real earth. Earth has been
healed..the one above us now...But it is still Earth. The money
systems are or will be removed and we'll return to the barter system. It
has no Net so we should be able to see the Stellar bodies without a
problem, no more hologram hiding them. And the color of the sky is
golden yellow.
So I'm not sure about how much will happen this way...or whether
everyone will experience the change that way. I do know for sure
that the shell of this earth will be destroyed afterward. And the
plan is that only the snakes will be left on the empty shell. Earth
is alive, and so is everything else, and it will have moved out of
the shell of matter that Tiamatt created. Its hard to conceive how
things work without Matter. But apparently it was always meant
to be created with photonic light slowed to solidity....thats why
we feel so heavy and why things are so 'painful' here.
I challenge you who are reading this to do this at night....lay down, or
in a recliner(I use a recliner:) and relax. Dont use meditation or
hypnosis techniques. Just relax...and breath, in and out. And close
your eyes, and let the mind rest with one thought ..."Father"...and hold
that thought as the only word spoken in the mind, while still breathing
and eyes shut. You should start seeing images behind your closed

eyelids. They have really shut us down, dream wise, lately, and my
images aren't coming as they used to because the last time they Took
me, they implanted something to stop me. I was outed, lost my cover,
in January and its been rough. But many still are able to get images.
Don't try to control them let them flow.
viewer wrote: Hi oldsoul, a couple of questions if you dont mind is it
true or do you know about the ritual that is supposed to relate to the
snake families use to introduce the parasite? I have been told that for
this to happen the child must come from a incestual birth?
Oldsoul: The Snake Families hierarchy is bound to a law that requires
brother and sister to marry within the 'royal' families. This was passed
down to the hybrid families, and why they are all related.
In order to 'turn' our societies, part of the game of sabotage, was to
get a family member to marry one of the snakes implanted humans.
Thats is what is seen in families today when they say "every family
has one". Every family has someone in the family that is deeply
selfish, and or someone who they know is 'touching' the children. That
is an implanted person.
The trauma of incest somehow provides for an easier 'opening' they
(snakes) need to attach to the body. A negative point of entrance
within one of the chakras, usually the base chakra.
My friend, the Illuminati child, went through that trauma too. And they
spoke a bit about it, but not enough for me to be able to answer your
question fully. I'm sorry. I do remember they spoke of the star fire
ceremony, and the ceremony under the Vatican.
viewer wrote:And it is said that women taught men magic, by magic i
mean the ability to manifest reality by imagination, was it pure human
women that taught this or was it women with the snake parasite? look
forward to your reply.

Oldsoul: That is the Male and Female Divine. Although the Female
Divine is considered more 'powerful' it requires both. And both have
the power to manifest. Not requiring any other to do accomplish it.
However it is more powerful when groups do it. I remember putting up
a building to sleep in for the night. We stood in a group, and with
Focus, we set the image in our minds that we had earlier decided on
as a group...you know, where the bedrooms are the kitchen...floor
plans. And within seconds the building shimmered into solidity, in the
spot of where we focused.
When the snakes took over, they started the patriarchal system. Part
of that is to imply a 'wrong' done by women. "Women are fault of the
fall of Man". This is to divide the population through warfare. Females
of their own species are less valued than a cup or tool. They kill one
wife to take another. This forces their women to become cunning, and
adaptive to killing within their own communities as a matter of survival.
The Crocodilian Race, it is said, is one of the primary forefathers of
this behavior. Something about a betrayal of one of them....it led to the
whole slew of females within their race. They no longer require
females, they do not 'give birth' the way we biologicals do here.

otomon wrote: Hey oldsoul I am thinking about doing a movie based

on your posts, can I have your permission to do so?
Oldsoul: Yes, I would actually be grateful. It was very poorly done with
my first attempt:) but continued anyway. Tell as many as you
can...Father is back. Stop fighting, it feeds the weapons, and don't
worry about "Sin". If you look on Wiki, you will find a map...on that
map it shows the town "Inanna" of babylon right next to the Town of
"Sin" Akkadian.
When Inanna invaded, she changed the names of the places after her.
Set herself up as 'god' to them, with their minds wiped, and powerless
against these being of advanced technology. Then with the help of the
Collective, she made a "Law", that any who knew of her, or spoke of

her committed a Sin and was to pay a penalty. "Sin Tax" in the spirit
world, and here it became money. This was who changed us to the
money system. And that is why you are seeing the removal of money
from our system now. The Divine Couple are removing it because the
Rothschild, and other hybrids control it completely and are using it to
starve us out.
viewer wrote: Are you aware of the one that is born in this time and is
said to be the one that takes down tptb, something to do with the son
of god incarnated into a incestual family of the snakes, this was done
so the father could see how they did what they did?
Oldsoul: It became alarming to me...a few months ago...when I heard
of Marshall and the Queen. And then another popped up and said he
was Yahweh collecting his 144000...'no others need apply'... Then you
have the maneuvers of the GFL and the Nordics.
These are all the Snake family maneuvers. Father is no longer an
incarnate. But he is here.
*** What they are doing is the same thing they did with Mu,
Lemuria, and Atlantis. They are trying to...each group of the
Collective....round up people that will give up their
will.....willingly.....be sealed by them. When that is done, it is Law
they get to keep them. ***
These people, implanted all of them, are told that they are better than
their neighbor in some fashion or form, and that they were selected to
start mankind over.
What they do then is tell them that they must accept the control of an
AI computer chip..that this is to make their society better, after all just
look how bad things are when man rules. This is how they start the
Borg societies.

Then they harvest them the same way as usual, use the DNA to
create more people for the surface and they have a new 'herd' of
harvestable beef. (MY NOTE: This is EXACTLY what the Ra entity in
the channeled Law of One series has been attempting to do since the
1980s -- he spoke openly of a Human Harvest to be able to
supposedly ascend to the 4th density where he then describes what
I immediately saw as a very scary scenario of how we are basically
assimilated into a Borg Like Collective with a hive mind mentality and
lose our free will! Actually he had me running like Forrest Gump at the
mere mention of the idea that I and worse My SOUL would be
harvested by an as yet unknown invisible Entity!)
One of the sabotages for the dream sequence knocks you out.
Has anyone else, tried to relax and let the mind wander to
'see'...laying down... and simply been knocked out to sleep? then
when you wake, you can't remember anything?
At first I thought, wow, thats weird. A chronic insomniac...and just
going black like that....whats up? then I found that I had been
Taken..was seeing too much. One of the Reps, a being called "Nate"
who is from the "Oshanna" race within the Collective, contacted me
and laughed at me. Said he paid the "Vet" a steak for doing that one to
me. They dont call them Doctors, they call the Vets, because they
consider us less than Man...animals. The Vets are the Greys...the
"EL".
According to the 'rumors'...the Greys surrendered and recognized their
'error'...and are now working for the One..Father. But I challenged that
after the incident. They screamed back at me "she's
guessing" .."Lie"...And of course, at the time I wasn't sure it was
them..I WAS Fishing:)
But after their response, I knew I had hit the nail on the head. So their
supposed 'surrender' was hog wash. They have a hive mind, one
knows..they all know. So for a few of them to be still working for Liliths
agenda, meant that they all knew of this and were hiding it from

Father. I don't know what happened after that. But I do have hard
feelings for them...Father keeps "douching" me though*grin* so I cant
work up the real anger that should be there for this breach of trust.
heinousone wrote: Kind of sounds like how I fall asleep all the time.
Thought it was normal. To fall asleep like that and not dream most
nights.
Oldsoul:
heinousone
From what you have told me, I am absolutely sure you are one of the
Allies on the inside.
No, its not normal. They are blocking your memory of your fighting
against them. You saw too much.
I saw Lilith. And they came for me like bats out of hell over it.
viewer wrote: Just to let you know what i know oldsoul the son is here
1968 was when he arrived born to a part of that family also the
daughter born 1988 on the same date. these are intresting times, .
There is a train of thought that suggests the divine couple must learn
from what happened to stop it going back to the beginning. much love
your way.
Oldsoul: '68 sounds about right. So I believe you. It is possible, he is
that brave. Remember he is fighting for the Life of his Child..us.
Eve though is still here, and within another family. I do know that for a
fact. Unless shes left within the last few weeks...which I doubt...I am
to be 'pulled' when she leaves, and I'm still here.
I also know that he (Father/God) was implanted as the rest of us, and
that it took a lot to remove the plants and tech they had place within
his body...the seeds took longer too. He had to
make...'create'...something new to kill them. He came up with
something he calls the "arsenic".

heinousone wrote: Well I certainly hope he has alot of "douche" at his

disposal because while your words bring peace of mind to me, I cant
help but feel the desire for vengeance at the edges of my mind. When
this all breaks down, there are going to be souls out for vengeance.
Oldsoul: Yes, we're all struggling with that one. And that is why the
Snakes are so desperate. We are literally Above them in power. And
when we 'wake' back up, its on! That is what they think anyway.
Father has different plans. Nothing of the old must remain, and the
anger and vengeance has to go with it. Just so you understand...its
OUR anger and vengeance...Not HIS.
In order for us to make the jump, we have to be 'peaceful' and hold
those other emotions by force. This has to do with "High
Frequency" ..pure physics...not justice.
The negative emotions power up the wave AGAINST the wave of the
Jump. We should have made the jump already..months ago. It is being
held back, to try and give as many kids as possible the time to catch
up to make the jump with us.
We leave NO ONE...Not one person, not one plant or
dog....behind for the Snakes to restart.
Once the jump is made, then all will be disclosed. He plans to
accept blame for the war...I have issues with that, but it is his
right as Father...so.
The plan is to jump us Up to the next plane, we are merging very
slowly right now. That was the crop circle images of two circles
half way into each other.

We have to clean out the seeds and other machinery too. That is
being done right now...just out of eyesight, by the Allied forces
who are on the planet now.
When that is done, and they are sure there are no booby
traps....trojans....left then we make the jump.
On the plane above he is able to Manifest, become physical for
us. As a person. Then he will speak to each and every person and
disclose what has happened, telepathically as well as being in
the physical and speaking to us individually.
It seems like we've been held in this holding pattern forever
now..its been months since the war has officially ended.
Rounding up Lilith and Satan...Inanna and Enki...has proven
harder than it was to quarantine their whole planet Nibiru!
Lilith is offworld in a ship near venus wreaking havoc in the solar
system with her plots and attempts to stop the jump.
But Enki is here. Hiding within the Bilderberg group.
Thats why no one has been able to stop the 'government'
agenda.
There has been a sharp increase in young boys between 7 to 10
yrs... going missing...in crowded areas, with parents and the
whole works. One of those stories was published by the news
recently..trying to blame the mother who said she dropped him
off at school..walked him into the building. The last sight she had
of him was going down the hallway.
The other increase in disappearances is young women, between
the ages of 15 to 23.
I had to wonder if this is a blood sacrifice by the Bilderberg
groups.

It is like the movie Harry Potter. The blood sacrifice, besides

providing meat, provides Life Force power to the Snake family.
There was a problem with 'killing' Lilith. So I wonder, if this isn't
the way they keep reviving the upper level entity, which provides
for the incarnate.
The PTB look human, some still are. But everyone on the planet
has suffered these implants, and when the PTB go to the
Bilderberg ceremonies, they are Taken. The result is, piece by
piece, they are losing their humanity and falling in line with the
agenda. Their minds are programmed to think it is a "new world
order", but it is Liliths world harvest. Only the very top know
they are sacrificing the PTB at the ceremonies. Rothschild,
Rockefeller, Kissinger, the Queen....the Hybrids know.
The PTB for the most part, do not consciously remember due to
the mind wipes and memory patches.
So, thinking about how many were tricked this way...I asked "cant
they (the people/ptb tricked) go up and be healed"..and the reply was
a slap. To wish them up was BAD. Heaven doesn't want them, nor
does the Earth/Eden.
I know that the Reptilian race that was involved, has been captured
and sent back as a whole race, to re-evolve.
I know that I was told that Lilith and Satan..Inanna and Enki...and their
minions were to be sent to the Pit...I didn't ask about the pit, but was
informed it is not as written in the books here. So what ever it is it is a
type of eternal prison.
Since he had consideration for the Reptilian race that was involved, I
have to wonder if he is going to send the ptb involved to be 'reevolved' as well. I do know that not all of the ptb are human/man. The
'man' is dead, and the Snake has full possession of the Vehicle.

There was a phrase in Yahweh/Enki's bible that says "and there will be
much weeping and gnashing of teeth when they find out the choice
they have made"
I know that revelations, although the ptb under the influence of Enki is
trying, will not occur as planned. But I have to wonder how many bible
and wiccan, torah, koran, buddist, are going to be upset when they
find out that they were tricked into feeding their power via prayer..to
the Snake families.
Yes, but it is the daily angers that still trouble us. The Net has the
ability, because they are conscious units, people who were captured
and programmed, to interfere in the daily lives. If you've suddenly run
into a string of "personal problems" such as money, tickets,
foreclosures, this is being deliberately done to you by the Nets. This is
an Attack on you, personally. Don't think 'coincidence'...understand it
is not a fluke, it is arranged.
Most of the Nets, like I know of the AT&T net, are dead. Killed. And
this was because they were so programmed to do harm, and the
programming couldn't be over come, although the Allies..Dad...tried
initially. Others, such as the Sky Net, have surrendered to Father and
turned. Inanna was upset she lost control of the Sky Net, which was
one of the most powerful and over the subnets.
Still, it is ongoing.
The plan is that when we rise, the sky net will do the "Full Monty"
*grin*
He is going to drop to the ground a bit, and allow you to touch him...do
no harm to him...He's showing you he is real.
They will use the sky net as a source of free energy. We can 'tap' him.

I should go further into physics for you. They have kept you from free
energy. When I was consciously going up, I was astounded that no
one knew of the Crossing...I had thought, free of 'here' that their
memory would return. I was wrong. They don't know. So I will tell you
here, and when you go up you will have all the tools to start with.
viewer wrote:Ive had a whole 42 years of problems, one thing after
another, untill very recently. but im still smilling and have had a pat on
the back very recently which helps alot.
Oldsoul: Yes, thats them. One thing after another, and we say to
our selves "why"..and others look at you and mistakenly say "its
your own fault...you didn't do.." this or that.
But it was entirely the Snake Families. All of it.
There was 'no lessons' to be learned here. This was not 'a
school'...that was all Snake propaganda. Then they tormented us,
daily, and we tried to make ourselves feel better by repeating
"this is a lesson".
We were already Spiritual, and advanced--we were just having a
physical experience. Then we were descended to this frequency level
which affected our minds and returned the thought and
comprehension patterns to a more primitive level.
Last night, I managed to break through the block they put on me...did
anyone else 'see' with their minds last night?
I relaxed, and closed my eyes and concentrated on Dad.
And I got images that I've never gotten before. I thought it was the
influence of the vid I just did...or maybe the vid pleased them.
But it started with a smoke like swirling of fluorescent colors...purple,
lime green, pastel pinks...and then I saw a dark squared opening and

knew it was a door. For those who don't know..they hid the doorway
out, so that when you left your body in death here, you saw a 'bright
white light at the end of a tunnel'.
That is Lilith's trick. The white light is blinding, so that you can't see
the Snakes. They cover their image, I've heard of 'golden' men and
Lilith likes to use the image of a somewhat plain but serene woman.
But it is a disguise. They literally do not look like Man.
When I went through the door is when they knocked me out again.
shrike12 wrote:Do you know how this evil consortium came to be?
How did they get so far off the path?
Do you know how we lost the initial invasion?
Do you know what we were doing on earth before the invasion?
Thanks.
Oldsoul: I was told, but really don't know the accuracy...but on the very
upper level, a problem occurred. In order to fix the problem, they got
Set and Tiamatt, the Snake Branch, to agree to be the 'bad guys' and
man to be the 'good guy' in a War. The war reunites the 'division' that
occurred. You know..the old saying 'we're at our best, when things are
tough'. Only they didn't expect to lose control of the situation. It WAS a
high risk move. All or nothing. It Worked BTW.
Solar System was invaded, but they had started with other worlds, we
weren't the first. Earth was a strategic mark, like Vietnam. By Sacred
Geometry Earth was the "Heart" position of Creation. And this is why it
was the selected home World of the Divine couple.
The Snakes were going to take over the Creation by gaining
control and killing the divine couple. Hence the term a "War in
Heaven"...that was the plan..to control all via control of Heaven.
We were all together with other races before the war. All the planets
have life. We can't see it now because we are at a different broadcast

frequency right now. But we had cities and on a Monolithic scale. We

and most others are 9-15 ft tall, and live for hundreds of years. This
was all levels interacting, from energy based life, to High Tech life. Our
cities were Large, but always in harmony with nature.
I can hardly wait to see what these trees, everything, looks like for real
in Eden. Part of what they did was tamper with our eyesight. So the
colors aren't there...everything is smaller and dimmer here. Cant wait
to see trees the size of houses:)
awesomewells wrote: Hi Oldsoul, just a couple of quick questions,
When you speak about a 'knock', is this the same as hearing a distant
pop or bang
just as you're drifting off to sleep, or is it something you would feel
more in your conscience or
spirit.
And also, when I was about 16, I experienced the feeling of a light
igniting inside me which grew
and filled my whole being, then it suddenly stopped and I've never
really had an explanation for it,
just wondered if you knew anything about that sort of thing.
Thanks.
Oldsoul: I'm not quite sure about that one. I've never heard knocking
physically although I've had them adjust my frequency before and that
produced a musical note that I 'heard' but again, there was no source
of sound.
And not sure about the lighting up inside...I know the Kundalini
which is the snake implant will give that feeling. But it could have
been something else as well.
I can ask for you tonight and see if I get a reply. If so, I will post it for
you.

Last night I got images of Earth breaking through the upper plane. So
hopefully it wont be long. I know that in Montana the weather is turning
to winter again. Unusual. No one has successfully planted any
gardens that I know of this summer. Some that did manage to get
some beans and such in, didn't do well. Everyone seems to be getting
the message to stop.
When I asked last night about my court case..should I out the
embezzlement, I was told to wait. Something is about to happen. So
that sounds rather imminent...of course for us 'imminent' might be
weeks!
Has anyone else been getting any messages?
viewer wrote: Yes just to be patient and watch ones thoughts, good
things come to those that wait.
Oldsoul: Thats what I always had in the back of my mind since
childhood....but I have to admit...I've been waiting so long for my ship
to come in, that the pier has collapsed with age, beneath me!
Cornbread714 wrote: So Kundalini is the snake implant? Yoga is from
the Snake family, too?
I love reading your posts, OldSoul, but I must admit that a lot of what
you say is extremely difficult for me to swallow.
On the other hand, I still find it fascinating and your patience and good
humor are refreshing - especially on this site where the insults fly
constantly. I admire your ability to keep your cool and to present your
ideas in a non-confrontational manner.
Oldsoul: Well, thank you Cornbread:) I like chatting with you too *grin*
and I really have had a good time with all of you guys..chatting and all.

I can understand the denial...took me about a year to come to

grips with the fact that NOTHING I was taught here was correct.
Just enough truth in it to ring a bell, and then twisted to mislead
you down another conclusion or path.
The Kundalini is SET. It absolutely is the snake implant. Once you
get it activated the reptile brain is all that is left.
viewer wrote: I think we still have to live in the now, difficult when you
are one that is aware of so much.
Oldsoul: I know EXACTLY what you mean. I keep trying, and they
keep blocking me telling me to stop..time to go...concentrate on
keeping peaceful so that the Rise happens. Very hard. Have kids, and
pets, and spouse...and none of them can understand why I cant seem
to 'keep up' with things any more.
They completely and I mean COMPLETELY miss...that its happening
to them too! No one goes out really, family and thats about it...no one
goes to the movies, or plays outside. Not much fighting... for a
houseful of boys... either. I notice that can't maintain anger long at
each other either...too much effort. Oh there's still the occasional
argument, but its like the Monty python '5 min argument or the 10 min
argument' ...and it completely escapes their conscious mind that this
isn't the usual for them.
viewer wrote:I understand why people find some of this hard to
believe, but i for one have seen these so called snake or reptile
influence in some people, you would know they have a certain look
usually chasing the money big time, telepathic and very good at
magic.when i meet one they are afraid and back off, i see right
through them, thought every one could, but is not the case, maybe Im
at a higher frequency, when it first started I thought I was going mad,
but like I said Ive had a pat on the back very recently, not so mad just
very clear perception.

Oldsoul: Exactly, its a bit like being in that movie "them" with the
glasses that allow you to see them...weird isn't it? I notice them by the
sociopathic traits. I see the human alter and the snake take complete
control. And their minds don't allow them to recognize they are
changing.
I have some photos I found out how to download on here...but how do
I get them off 'my photo' to the blog page here? I did find those hand
shake pictures...I forgot who asked...and they are in there...But I have
several pic's of the Nagga's which are represented with Buddha...
viewer wrote: And their minds don't allow them to recognize they are
changing.
That is the sad part, had one very close to me a few years back i dont
even know if she knows now why she dose the things she dose, cant
have her near me now.
Yes I've had a number of friends go that route. But they will be pulled
from this body, as a consciousness unit, and put back into their
original avatar. I don't even think we will be aware of it, or most wont,
until they wake up for the day and look down at their bodies....Not
sure.
[img]19631[/img]buddha with the Nagga
[img]20203[/img] Nagga in India, the Vedic
[img]20202[/img] Nagga in Cambodia
I should have saved the one from Ireland..but I didn't, darn!
However this is the Nagga, one of the members of the Collective, the
Snake Families, and this is the source of the Greek legends of the
Hydra. They had 3, 5, or 7 heads.

KUNDALINI
We were taught by these systems in place now, that this was a good
thing. And like church it gives that 'feel good feeling' to us.
Unfortunately it is not true. It is an implant, and its purpose was that
once activated it would be able to Rise with us within the body of Man.
As I said, the Gargoyle in the suitcase, hiding. They thought that if
they were able to get up, they would be then able to take over the
Incorruptible body that is the real Avatar you were "born" to.
That will not happen. And this body, along with the implant, the reptile
brain, and the seeds, will be left behind. The original Avatar is
Mammalian. No reptile DNA at all.
lugh1 wrote:Thank you for your words, oldsoul.
Would you please explain some things:
- In what way was the sun altered, and why?
- Is the rising frequency making sungazing safe when once it was not?
- Does the frequency of the practicing individual affect the safety or
value of sungazing?
As many have similarly noted, your story resonates with me. I had a
dream two years ago in which I acted as one of three superheroes
that were tasked to take out a character that we knew as the "CEO".
We succeeded in the dream, and when I woke I recalled the face of
the ex-vice president of the U.S. I believe you mentioned this
character earlier in the thread in a similar light. Many other dreams
I've had involve 'clandestine' activity of a sort, so I would love to
believe that my mind wasn't merely entertaining itself, and that the
dreams are not illusions but rather, memories.
thanks again.

Oldsoul: I'm not quite sure how the sun is altered. I know that the
'heat' is not the way it normally is. That it is Conscious and was told by
Lilith posing as the One, to throw off heat and flares at us. I know that
it was upset when it found out that it had been tricked, and was sorry it
had done harm to man on earth.
Your dream does sound like you were active out of your body and
after one of the suits *grin* good for you! It sounds like patches were
used on you to cover the memory. Then of course those ELF
broadcast towers everywhere are using a program to tell the mind
"just a dream" Doubt is a Snail by the way...disgusting isn't it? Have a
hard time with a 100 foot astral snail telepathically implanting doubt for
everything.
lugh1 wrote: "The world ended. Earth split into five representative
realms, all in a line, with a mothership overhead. Ground cracking,
oceans sinking continents, people going apeshit. Billions of people
thrusted into inner space. Some don't see mothership, fall back to
Earth. Others fly from realms toward mothership. I fly much faster,
past millions, to reach mothership first. Doors shut closed, leaving me
alone inside. Loneliness impels me to force doors open, letting several
hundred inside with me. Groups given ships to save stragglers in
realms. I take my lightship back to Realm 5 to try to save friends amid
a world collapsing."
I wonder if you might have some thoughts on such themes.
Oldsoul: I'm not sure about that one. I did believe the ascension
thing..where we were to be split up. But dad says its not true. ALL
MEN GO UP.....ITS THE LAW. So I'm not sure. The Snakes were
going to raid earth as the transition happened, I know that. The
plan was to use ships say "we're here to save you" from a
cataclysm they created, and then this was to be the next 'herd' of
harvestable beef. Minds wiped and all, they'd never know just like
now.

But that won't happen. I do know that 'time' is not present when we
leave our bodies at night. It could have been a memory of the past.
They have done us this way for three cycles or more...Mu,
Lemuria, Atlantis...and all were high civilizations, and we were all
here too. Same families and friends and everything....
Part of moving forward is 'clearing' the past lives and traumas here. I
know that I dreamed of Nibiru's crossing, and knew when I saw it in
the sky that it was a real memory. So some dreams are past, but real
memories. Some though are present day, and again its memory of
leaving the body and the spirit...YOU...is able to fight for our freedom.
The War was won in May, but Inanna and Enki who are playing
'gods and demons' are still at it. They know they lost though, and
they were trying to 'salt the well' so to speak. "If I can't have
them, no one can!" type of mentality.
Heinousone wrote: Just because the kundalini energy may be blissful
when you tap into it does not mean that it cannot be reptilian in nature
as Oldsoul has spoken of. Honey is much better bait then vinegar.
When we leave our bodies at night, time, which is a construct for THIS
place, doesn't exist for us there. We can and do go back and forth.
You are traveling. It sounds like you were decoding Matter, which is
also only here. A hardened 'shell' around the Atomic structure that
holds us captive.
I wasn't going to say..but I suppose full disclosure for some
things, despite the 'crazy' tag, is best. They have shut down our
dream sequence with an ELF wave beamed from towers. They
are particularly interested in shutting down anyone who was
'active' because this is a threat to them.
This is causing headaches, blinding pain behind the eyes,
chronic continuous sinus infections, black outs when we finally

do lay down to sleep...no one wants to go to bed...everyone is

staying up late because the subconscious is aware of what they
are doing when we sleep. Its also creating a muddled mind effect. To
the point where you feel so inept you cant even be sure you tied your
shoe lace correctly! An inability to track a conversation, or keep focus
on tv or reading an instruction manual....escapes you.
I used to have a mind that was technically inclined. Unfortunately I'm
reduced to the point where I cant even get the image to the post reply
page! So a website is beyond me now...you may do what you will with
the information though. Post it where you will...I ran into the 'copyright'
thing the other day, and don't think too well of it. I can see it will be
used to remove more information from the public...when you can't post
Yahweh or Enki's real pic how can you prove that this is what they
look like? Its like finding all the info on the Moloch removed...I couldn't
believe it!
viewer wrote: Just got back, last night my dream was about a huge
chess game, the message was step by step slowly also something
about there ability to read ones thoughts hence bits of info at a time,
also they cant read the fathers thoughts at all, this is why we are given
bits of the puzzle at a time, anyway have a top day all.
Oldsoul: Yes, we are 'cells':) Not many know who they are
working with in the astral. Only one group has ever been
conscious, knew each other, and acted as a group. That is 5.
Most are under attack and have been actively shut down. I am
one of 5.
michael9 wrote: Hello,
This is a nice thread to read. I got a couple of questions for you
people:
Where do the biblical angels fit into this story? (oldsoul said they are in
"kahoots" with the greenskins in a game of "good cop bad cop") many
holistic healers out there claim to be working with "angels".

Is there any truth in the biblical genesis? the first being created was
Lucifer (Cifer the one responsible with attributing numbers to
everything that was created) the second one the Archangel Michael (a
warrior being as if God had anticipated the Luciferian rebellion)
Oldsoul: If you notice, the bible has "Amen" in everything. The Torah
does have a code, I worked with it for three years, and on every
page..top right..is "Yahweh". Amon and Yahweh are the same
person..havent been able to post from my pic file *sigh* inept! But I
did download them and you can look. He is also "Satan" and is very
red skinned.
All criminals change their names. Every time they started a new
cult they did that. Enki is Yahweh..father calls him a scab eater.
Inanna is Lilith, Ishtar *Ashtar Command* and a host of other
names. Enki is hiding in the Bilderberg. The cult of Moloch is
Lilith and Satan's cult.
Among the Snake Family collective is the Bird Tribes. Among the bird
tribes are the humanized 'angels' and the Moloch.
zendokan wrote: Can you(oldsoul) or anyone please tell me more
about this Kundalini/Reptilian connection...
And what would happen if one could "cut" this implant...
Oldsoul: Look on my pic file and you will see the kundalini, snake,
comes up the spine from the base. You have been implanted with the
Reptile Brain. This is not normally within Galactic Man.
The snake, like an energy life form parasite, gets in through the base
chakra...an energy point at the base of the spine. Then by telling
people this was the method to 'enlightenment' they got you to draw it
up through the spine to the brain. Once it gets to the reptile brain it
somehow replaces the man in the vehicle.
Remember the body is the vehicle, you are not the body.

The plan is to leave the snakes behind. You will be moved to another
vehicle.
viewer wrote: We only know what we are told or read in ref to
kundalini , once you have experienced the reptilian parasite, you see
how they take over, there is a link it seems to grow and really kick in
when the people that are infected reach there thirties. none of this
would make any sense to me without my personal experience of
observing this phenomenon.
Oldsoul: I agree.
The problem is War propaganda. In OUR wars, the generation
remembers the lesson because the time is shorter..so the propaganda
is never forgotten to be propaganda. Remember how Hitler 'educated'
the youth? And that is what was done to us...only the time span was
generations. Until no references to the truth were left in books to go
by.
So growing up you are 'taught' these things and we had faith they
were true. When you finally break free, you can see the
subliminal programming EVERYWHERE.
Religions, ALL of them from Wicca to Catholic, are all the Snake
Families twisting the truth and getting you to make the symbols.
The symbols and rituals that are mistakenly called 'pagan' are in
fact a high science of Energy exchange. When you follow
them...the symbols and rituals...you REDIRECT the Energy of
your Life force to the Snake Family. Thats why the 'gods' FED on
your Prayers!
Enki is playing Satan, and Inanna is playing Lilith. This is why the
Movie the forth kind used Sumerian..that was their language. When
they went underground the language died out here, but stayed as their
language with them.

Lilith is Queen of the Moloch. The Moloch are the "Owlman of

Cornwall" ..ever seen the "lost tapes"? That is why the Owl was
used as a patch over the mind wipe on them. That is why the
Bilderberg are using the statue of the Owl for the cult of Moloch. This
is where Enki is hiding in plain sight. This is what has happened to the
ptb.
jedi1 wrote: hiya,
this maybe a bit nieve, but why dose'nt father just get rid of satan
completely?
Oldsoul: The 'god' that is 'all controlling and all powerful' is the Snakes
myth to you. To lead you away from the truth that ...we call him
FATHER because he is a PERSON. And this is a War.
heinousone wrote: OldSoul what can you tell me about this?
I have watched this Benjamin Fulford for awhile with a skeptical eye.
What feeling do you get?
http://benjaminfulford.com/The%20e-mail%20was%20sent%20by
%20a%20senior%20Italian%20operative.html
Oldsoul: We watch and read him and Stewart S. site's as well.
What the Snakes did is divide up the planet to each of the
Collective members, then they each started 'cults' to feed them.
The royals feed the snakes the human population..always have.
The Queen and Vatican are the Egyptian line of Enki the
Anunnaki. Buddha is the Nagga...so on so forth. Now they are
fighting between themselves for food...us.
They have set all these cults to infighting over power and money and
this is their reward for the food supply given. The Bilderberg actively
feed the PTB to them. Every time they go to those ceremonies, they
stop time and take them. Kind of like the cannibal joke ...'we would like
you for dinner'...and they are the dinner.

jedi1 wrote:you say he is hiding within the bilderberg group, who do

you think he is? id love to get hold of him
Oldsoul: the image I got for looking kind'a scared me off from
narrowing it down. Top picks are Rothschild, Rockefeller, or the Family
Member who founded it....Family of 300.
The Nagga was from Ireland to Cambodia. It is a SNAKE with 3, 5, or
7 heads depending on its lineage. And this was the Hydra in Greece.
The Nagga image is on my photo images if you look. From the India
Vedic...to Buddha. This is the Snake Family collective. BEFORE we
were mind wiped, we had no RELIGION. We did not worship our
father because he was literally our FATHER. (My Note: I looked up
Nagga and its described as a serpent or serpentine being)
Remember He (Father God) incarnated here too, and went
through all of it himself. You are a Victim of War. He does
not...absolutely does not....hold these things against us. Only the
Snakes and the real followers of the snakes are in trouble. Never
think of 'penalties' or 'sin'.
funnyman46 wrote: Oldsoul, if I understand correctly, we (according to
your words) are about to witness a change that will change our
vibration frequency in order to ascend (leave earth) and be rejoined
with what is our true selves away from all the deceptive history
lessons, brain washings and propaganda. Is this close?
If this is close enough and the time is nearing, what in your opinion
should all of us be doing or do in order to prepare either ourselves or
others of this possible outcome?
Are we responsible to anything at this point or should we just let things
take their course? Are there things we should strive for in our dreams
or actions here on Earth? What are some of the signs that what you
say is true and not another type of deception designed to have us line
up for the wrong ship and be finger licking good for the bad guys?

Still a fan, just asking

Oldsoul: Its my understanding, that although the official war is over
the straggler groups have to be dealt with here. We can't move up
until enough people are outing the PTB. So stay active as a spy. We
are driven to the conspiracy forums because we are actively outing
their games.
Until Enki/Satan is contained, and Lilith/Inanna and their cults are
contained, we are still on duty so to speak. It is holding up the rise. No
snakes are allowed up.
Its my understanding there is such a thing as a 'seal'. If anyone
here knows what a 'deceptive contract' is that is what happened.
So the people have to wake up enough to realize they have
chosen Lilith and Satan, even though they thought they were in
church or what ever...for Father. This breaks the seal which is by
law of free will.
Aragajag wrote: You have one amazing story to tell there Old Soul, It
rings true in so many ways but the skeptic in me is holding back and
applaud all those members out there in internet land for the respect
given in this discussion.
Oldsoul: hahaha, you know, it took me 3 years....I was that
hardheaded and that indoctrinated! Can you imagine how long it will
take the people who refuse to even see the 'conspiracies' and call
THOSE people nuts???
Well, I can certainly relate to the skeptical mind! The deeper you dig
into the conspiracies, the more the links lead to a satanic cult
*bilderberg* the more you dig into 'satan cults' the symbols and
histories of freemasons, etc...the more it leads to Nibiru.

The more you find out about Nibiru, the more links you find to Inanna
and Enki...and that leads full circle BACK to the conspiracy theories!
This takes so much time, and a compulsive nature to dig up info,
that most simply do not have the time or nature to find the
information that has been buried over centuries. (My Note: I can
personally attest to her last statement in this paragraph, as I am
one of those extremely RARE people who dig relentlessly to get
to the very bottom of things and distill everything down to its
bare essence - and find Truth! Ive been on this hunt daily for
over 15 years. Its exhausting work and not for the faint of heart!!
But SO worth it when you figure things out for yourself.....)
And then once you find Enki and Inanna, finding out about the truth of
the Divine Couple was even harder. All information has been erased
and/or replaced by misleading information...like the bible!
So that there are skeptics is normal, and allowed, and welcome:)
raphael wrote:[OLD soul is IGNORANT of the 12,000 year old
swastika that we can trace to Plato's description of Atlantis.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... -atlantis/
The OLD soul is a FRAUD.
MUST BE.
Anytime folks mention the swastika and NAZIs together, and then fall
silent after my inquisitive inquisitions where I prefer to IGNORE the
NAZI influence and START my inquiries starting at 10,000 BCE.
Duh maybe we can find out what REALLY fascinated Hitler about this
ancient symbol associated with evil, by the Old Soul.
The OLD soul is obviously another well read BUT CLEARLY
IGNORANT, not up to speed, on the SWASTIKA SECRETS I
continually recover in my quest in MY search for TRUTH.
And I am sorry if my quest upsets the IGNORANT.
NOT MY PROBLEM
it is clearly YOURS

Unless the OLD soul can INCORPORATE and make the swastika FIT
into their little BS narrative SOMEWHERE, other than just with the
NAZI associations, then I must surmise the OLD soul is just another
christian fraud with an interesting fairy tale to share.
Any THEORY of REALITY must explain the ROLE of the swastika
throughout history adequately.
WHY?
Ancient Chinese secrets reveal the swastika as divine too?
Signs and symbols control the world, not phrases and laws.
-Confucius
Thus the reason for keep symbols hidden is revealed.
Jesus and his christian laws are bogus and subservient to a TRUTH
being veiled.
That is why folks are made numb and dumb with an intent to kill their
inner metaphysical intuition, a CULTure given birth in St. Petrie dishes.
And I KNOW I AM RIGHT
Because the advertising industry which seems to be a driving force in
helping define our CULTure, would also NOT exist (in the form it does)
if folks were MORE AWARE of the signs and symbols.
thanks Confucius, the IGNORANT seem confused.
namaste
Oldsoul: I find humor in the fact that you quote a chinese religious
figure while dis'ing Jesus, and then promoting Nazi...all at the same
post! And you know the thing is they were all snake family related!
Snakes in fight, it was always that way. One fighting and taking over
the others territory.

The problem with this is I made a comment about the Nazi ability to
use propaganda. I don't remember saying any thing about the symbol.
However since you have brought it up...
Most of the symbols they gave people were with the intent that the
'victims' were bled dry of their life force energy. This was done with
several methods but all in all they worked by creating *the symbols of
religions and groups* by creating anger in the mind. The person
always feels like the anger is justified. Any slight in their mind,
becomes a personal slight. This anger doesn't let go like normal
anger. It stews and festers in the mind and so the person is locked into
thinking about it all the time.
The snakes had learned to keep us angry at religions and these
groups angry because they had learned to power their machines off
the negative energy the human was creating. So they learned to make
towers to direct beams of it, to keep people angry and violent when
they wanted more power.
These 'seasons' were part of the 'cycles' as far as I can tell, they are
not working the way father set up, they are working currently the way
the Snake family set up.
As far as going back to atlantis, the snake families are the reason
atlantis had to be sunk. You are missing the point of how long this has
gone on...Mu, Lemuria, Atlantis, the flood before, the destruction of
mars and marduke...this has been going on for centuries. Hitler
belongs to Lilith, and that is a fact. I would be very leery about
anything that the "White Brotherhood" in South America or the Nordics
and GFL are doing. And twice as leery about anything that Hitler
supposedly 'contributed' to human society.

awesomewells wrote:...Anyway, moving on, Oldsoul, what's your

thoughts with regards to the third eye and the pineal gland?

Oldsoul: All I know about it, and I was very interested in it and
activating it, is what is currently on the books now. So I'm not
sure ...they have managed to tamper with EVERYTHING. Hypnosis,
Meditation...everything.
I do know that I can 'see'. And from talking to others I know they can
see too. The difference seems to be what we are 'taught' about
second sight. People have been taught that this is 'daydreaming' and
'dreaming' and imagination and not true.
But it is in fact your natural ability. The brain is like an amplifier...it
picks up the energy wave, and translates it...if you think that its your
imagination or a daydream, then you don't react or act on what you
see. They win.
I know that they have changed the laws and that anyone talking about
the EL (greys) can be locked up with out consent, by two doctors
signing off on it. If you deal with conspiracies, and the changing laws
that take away our freedoms, then you know this.
The question you have to ask yourself, is whom are YOU backing
when you say such a thing? I know from personal experience The
NET and the towers and implants lead us to be aggressive when
the truth is discussed. I've seen calm ordinary people come
totally unglued by the subject. The purpose is to shut down the
discussion.
And they use other people to do this to those who would discuss
it...much like in the days of the inquisition. So if you are trying to 'be
free', then you must ask yourself why you are suddenly so
confrontational about those who do speak of these things.
Yes, it was hard to swallow..I think..for everyone it will be a somewhat
bitter pill as to how much they had been lied to. Especially the ones
who already, through churches and esoteric teachings, think that they
are enlightened or more fully informed. Its really sad how they did us.

jahsparkey wrote:
aragajag wrote:Jahsparky this thread has been one of the only ones to
enjoy a level of conversation and mutual respect between people that
is rarely seen. - the posts of Rapheal.
Granted ,but the topic belongs to the realms of science fiction, L.Ron
Hubbard Anyone? Pure unadulterated drivel .How would Anybody
know this stuff Wouldnt be surprised to find out oldsoul is a
scientologist or something equally batty.Have you read her flying
steeleating worms theory WTF
Oldsoul: No, I've actually never read Hubbards scientology. And yes, I
did open a discussion as to the possibility that the video was true. Isn't
that why we post things? To explore and discuss? It doesn't matter
whether you agree or not with a thing, the purpose is free discussion.
However, I have worked in the physics of flight...and that was not a
theory, but a true description of an event that I witnessed. (when she
was living in Chicago and taken up in a spaceship where she could
see that time had stopped below)
funnyman46 wrote: I have another question and this is not a bashing;
if we are to increase in the vibration range, is there currently a way to
increase that vibration beforehand with any current technology in
order to detect these beings or the things out of our visual range?
Oldsoul: Tesla found some, and used the then new transistors to do it.
But as far as I know it has all been buried and classified.
We are already between the 20 and 30 mhz range. And this was on a
'public notice' of an increase in the bandwidth for the broadcasting
stations. Of course, public for them is posted in the base, third
bathroom, second toilet, under the lid!

What happens is their technology to camouflage themselves fails at

the higher frequency. So the 'cloaking' device, and the hybrids ability
to cloak, fails. This is part of the reason of the ELF from HAARP. The
low broadcast frequency is designed to push back the incoming High
frequency from Dad as he raises us to the physical plane of The
Creation.
Based on the physics of energy and flight I had been working with, I
think their break point is around 42 mhz. So a device with optics, that
was broadcasting at 42 mhz, might be able to see them now. Don't
know for sure. I know that they can do that with microscopes but I
wouldn't know how to do it with binoculars or glasses.
nyarelathodep wrote: How do the Zodiac houses and Numerology play
into what you have to say? On a personal note concerning this, I am a
Gemini who feels a VERY strong connection with his sign..and
cooresponding with that, I am a life path 11, with a soul urge 9...those
numbers have been very prominent in my life, long before I ever took
a look at numerology or how it related to me.
Also, have you seen any interviews of Alex Collier (contactee from the
Andromedans), and if so, can you voice an opinion of what he has to
say?
My thanks to you for taking the time to read and respond to everything
that has been addressed to you from all your listeners, With much
love, -J.
Oldsoul: I havent read Alex collier, although I have heard of him. I
HAVE had dealings with the Andromedan Fleet, which is maintained
by Zeus. They are a part of the Collective and in deep trouble being
on the loosing side of this War.
I cannot remember for sure about the Zodiac. I asked a long time
ago too. I think...if I remember correctly, that it had a purpose
similar to Sacred Geometry. In other words, it was a part of the
pattern for the Creation.

But numerology is not. It was the Snake families who did that
one. It had to do with them placing us in "time" *Ancient of Days*
and the cycles they created for the cataclysms and such. This is
why the Chinese system ..I-ching?..was based on 64 and cycled
down. The number systems were used by the Snake Family
collectives. Sorry if that disappoints you, I was disappointed too.
Used numerology and gramitica too, when I was younger.
lowsix
The original purpose was disclosure. I will die soon, and people who
are aware enough to recognize that conspiracy exist need to be told
the added depth of it. As a former member of active cell, this was all
kept secret.
It is important because as the frequency increases your minds will
change..become different. More connected, and there fore more
aware of the depth of the crime that has been committed against
Earth. Some will be terrified by the changes, and they need you and
other young people to lead. And it doesn't matter whether you believe
me now or not.
What is important, is that you will come to a place where suddenly you
will say to yourself "eek gads, THATS what that crazy person was
talking about":) and you will remember what I told you, and it will help
you proceed, and you then will become the one among family and
friends who say "no, this is what that is.." And then you too *GRIN* will
asked 'how did you know that..how can that be true". And the circle of
life will continue:) but with INFORMED CONSENT, and FREEDOM.
We are returning to the age of 'self rule', 'a man is king of his own
castle'.
As for the practicality. I did in fact talk to some of my former
associates, and wondered if I should teach you that. I am unsure. To
disclose that would be to publicly tell any snake a self defense. So I
was thinking all night about that one, I had found something out that
worried me for some of you who I had met here. Some here are

members of the allied force on the inside, they have simply not woke
up completely enough yet to understand that with full consciousness. I
am still weighing my options as to what to do about the information.
Lowsix
I'll tell you the same thing I tell the kids around here. Listen to your
Elders, they all have something to teach *grin*
"Oxygen, does not require your belief to exist, or do its job.
Somethings simply 'are'."quote oldsoul *grin*
Think of neaderthal as we here have been taught they were:) and
would you expect them to know that oxygen was in Air. That it was in
main the requirement for Life here?
Its something you cant see, touch, really measure...although when it
moves we can feel wind. How would you explain the concept to them
if you found they needed to know of such things? How would you tell
such a person what a wrench is and what is used for if they do not
have mechanically things?
Difficult questions, huh?:)
The way to do it is to discuss things openly, say what you know, what
you think you know, what you've heard, and what you do not know, or
think you do not know, and listen to the replies, and listen to other
ideas and expressions, and listen to the similarity and
differences...basically...chatting! about subjects!
knownawareness wrote: Incredible Thread. Thank you for your time.
Can you tell me if Arch Angel Michael exists along with the other Arch
Angels?
Ever since I heard a boom box voice in my head, I have not been able
to get away from this whole AA theme. I asked for guidance with this
and now I have been lead down many paths all linking to this Angel.
The last few months are getting really intense and every time I feel like

I have ruled it out, more things link together and have me searching to
which I seem to find more answers. This keeps me in a interesting
frame of mind all focusing around AAM.
Oldsoul: Something came up about him (Archangel Michael) recently.
He was on the other side of the War...He is a High ranking member of
the Bird Tribes....but its my understanding having lost the War, he has
switched sides.
I don't know if he did for sure though, so I dont know the answer. Try
this...keep in your mind as you relax with music or lay down.."Father".
And see what images come through your mind.
I do know that the technology exists to make you hear the reps in your
head. And they have done this all the time with implants, and
towers...In fact the technology was released in Japan for use in
ADVERTISING *grin* They made a bill board and then had to deal
with the traffic problems it caused when people suddenly heard
'voices' in their heads. So, it would not be unusual to say that is the
Snake Family, although if Michael is on the side of Father, then that
might continue to be his method of contact.
marduk2012 wrote: what do u know about ze life between lives?
Oldsoul: There are two steps. One Heaven. The other The Creation.
Within the Creation there are multiple levels, it appears, of life and life
forms. There is no in between.
When they lowered us below the physical plane of Creation, they
created a method of capturing the energy life form that is our
consciousness, you, the spirit. Then they trapped it in their created
'heaven' and 'hell' which were actually both prisons or through them
back into the real plane of Earth, which we were taught to call The
Astral Earth.

When they needed more meat..bodies...they would download the

consciousness from that position to be born again. Because the mind
wipes were not always successful, they cannot erase the
subconscious, the 'stories' of past life memories would always come
up. So they came up with the story of reincarnation.
THIS IS HER LAST POST FROM PAGE 176 BUT ITS SO
IMPORTANT I DECIDED TO MOVE IT UP!
Oldsoul: It is increasingly harder to get online. I'm not the only one
experiencing this. I noticed that lowsix, cornbread and others decided
to use, or rather selected, another site to get in touch should this one
go down. For along while, my emails were being snagged and read,
and my connections were deliberately tampered with. So I didn't
recognize the change when it occurred till just recently.
They have been wondering for a long while how it is that our
machines, electricity, is still working at all. You see it has to do with the
frequency. With the old brown outs as they called them...they knew
then that the frequency that electricity is working at...and the
frequency that the solar output is at...were becoming out of alignment.
The sun and earths frequency were rising. The CME's were getting
larger. Well, we've had help keeping our machines going all this time.
It appears though, that they are readying now for the imminent
changes. The Divine Couple appear to have declared it time, and their
work here finished...in that format, I mean, as oversouls healing us.
The next steps are now moving into place.
I'll leave the link open..but I must go cook now, so I'll brb in about
15-30 mins. I'm ...uh..actually afraid I'll lose the link if I close it
out*grin* and it took all morning to get it working!!
We still notice that the El and their 'bloodkin' in the PTB are still
playing their games, but that is a distraction to you. It 'glues' you into
their game. They will continue these games until the end. Others

above have been offsetting them at an increasing pace as the

incarnates being used this way are breaking free and saying 'no' to the
actions they are being prompted to do by these entities they think are
'angels' and 'god'/'jesus'. I'm not sure, but I really don't think that they
can get the full concept that they are being tricked by impostors to
those names, until they are told directly and in person. Such is the
entrainment they've been put through.
However the recent bumping off isn't the ptb, as I had thought. I
thought, "sheesh, I just PAID for all this new set up and cleaned the
programming from the cpu, how are they doing this still...and so fast, it
was immediately...how did they tamper so fast??"
But it turns out it might just be because they are thinning the net and
allowing the solar rays in more and more. That High frequency is
incompatible...it over rides..the lower frequency of electricity.
But the higher frequency allows telepathy, which is how father will
speak first, to us....to gently let people know before shocking with
visual sight*grin* as 'big people' look in at you from the sky! LMAO, I
watched the brit comedian Garvis...he is on a roll now, with his hit
movie "The invention of Lying". And of course his joke is about a 'big
man in the sky' *grin* We called them giants, not realizing we had
those powers and were giants too!
But they stripped down this DNA and size for their 'herds', here. Only
on Earth, no where else did they do these horrific human experiments
on people, in their 'zoo'. I mean as a 'race' of people. But it turns out
there really is a 'giant man in the sky' lmao. Although 'man' might not
be the right concept...oversoul, is probably closer to right. And all
oversouls have incarnates, including Adam and Eve.
So it appears that things are now moving forward again. And you
should be prepared for all electrics to go out. I've heard that is what
happens, I'm not for sure though. But it does make sense, because

when they open the NET completely we'll be exposed to that high
frequency in full.
So they are prepping the land and 'bodies' here to acclimatize to the
high frequency by letting it in now, in increasing amounts. Once they
are sure everyone is acclimatized to it, they'll open the NET in full. The
idea is NOT to leave anyone harmed by the high frequency. That is
why Earths frequency has been rising all these decades, to make sure
all the 'bodies' ...all life...is at that frequency when the NET is dropped
finally.
So if there comes a time... which appears to be really close
now...where you cant get online at all...and you notice that the cars,
radio's and tv's are stopping...not working also...don't panic. It means
that the Net is about to open.
And remember, the people with the El are going to continue their
games with us. Right up till the end! Those people (ptb) are going to
be immensely surprised when their conscious and subconscious
minds re-unite, and at the same time Father will speak to them.
Remember, we were all trapped here, reprogrammed, used in many
ways. All that will be healed from each and every individual. No one is
left behind...the 'revelations' will not happen as written, we've already
moved out of the 4th world, and are simply in a holding pattern
between the 4th and 5th Worlds.
That too is now changing...things are moving again. So no fears about
being 'left behind' or about 'what I did' here, or mistakes made. No
grief, there is nothing to grieve at this parting of families...you are not
going to be 'separated' without good byes, and even more hello's will
be in order as we remember suddenly our names and families that
were forgotten...and will now be reunited with them!

Hold love in your heart, and think of your Father as often as possible,
he has worked tirelessly, patiently, to untangle you from this prison:)
and deserves a bit of a 'fathers' day well wishes today:)
Things are now going to pick up speed I believe. I'll try and keep in
touch, but it took all yesterday and most of this morning to get
online...anywhere! So it wasn't just this site, for me anyway...
If I'm offline for awhile, it is more likely due to the fact that I'm getting
the message now, to pull offline... and the computer and servers are
going down more often, so that encourages me to move away from
the cpu more often rather than spend all day trying to 'fix' something
that really isn't broken!! lol, spent all day yesterday looking at the
continuous error message "connection has been interrupted" !
There is a barrier spot between the planes that is also referred to
as the Astral.
But when you leave your body at night you are usually on the Astral
Earth or this Earth. Somewhere within these coordinates spacially.
They had thrown an Energy Net around the whole solar system. The
nets are down for the most part now, but the subnets on the planet are
still active, and that is what is currently being worked on. There are a
host of them. They are using Low Frequency waves on the brain, and
the mind control via electromagnetic wave. The more awake and
actively awake, the more they increase on a person. This is what is
giving us the knock out effect at night now. Too many cells are waking
up.
Grebbear wrote: So, I have been following along ...
OldSoul,
Thank YOU so much ))
I have been looking for you. I don't // didn't know you, nor who // what I
was looking for ... BUT, something has just turned a corner in me.
I have sincerely spent the past five years committed and determinedly

digging ... I have come to many realizations, uncovered many hidden

truths (or what looked like truth, due to the amount of shit, that was
covering it ... only to find its another layer to the lie), and lost the
respect (and more) of many friends and family, in my search for Truth.
Although, I've connected many dots, only recently had I discovered
the underlying reason for ALL the dis-Harmony facing humanity. This,
as you have explained, is due to the Vaparistic nature of the
controllers ... and easily explains humanity's inexhaustible and
exponential craze for vampires the past few years.
(eg.) HBO's True Blood, geesh ((
... and then I found YOU ))
Tying it all together ... I'm so Thankful !!!
Hello everyone. I'd just like to say that this post has struck a cord with
me. And Oldsoul, your wisdom is filled with endless compassion,
thanks. Not many people are too kind or truthful these days and I
definitely feel like youre one of the truthful and kind ones. Oldsoul, IF
you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a few questions.
Have you ever read the book a, "course in miracles", and if so, what
do you think about it?
Hinduism is one of the oldest religions ever. Is Hinduism another
religion created by the snake families?
Are all religions created by the snake families?
You said the snake families lost this supposed war. Do you think they
will ever fully reveal themselves now that they've lost?
I believe the infinite love and light of father is all forgiving. Do you think
these snake families will ever be forgiven? Is there anything they can
do to redeem themselves in Fathers eyes?
When we ascend soon, will everything be controlled by thought, much
like the astral environment?
Thanks for your time OldSoul, everything you do is much appreciated.
Oldsoul: my apologies again. Health is bad with the constant attacks.
The 'knock outs' block it but the fact is they take me and then I stay ill.
They place things in the brain to mess people up. I've found 'shards',

like glass or metal in some. Then there are the experiments that leave
scar tissue.
The 'heat' and hot flashes being experienced is the removal of Lilith/
Inanna's seeding of the populations. The seeds, reptilian, can't stand
prolonged heat like mammals do. So if its happening to you, that is
what it is.
The "disconnected" feeling some people are getting, is in fact
"disconnecting". You are getting the "blue" pill *grin* congrats, you are
about to be pulled out of the shell/body/avatar you are in now. At that
point my understanding is the consciousness goes through the trap
door that the allies made into this plane. The next level up is your
destination most likely and this is NOT I repeat NOT death.
You are being returned to the Real Physical Plane first, and your real
body. As I said before, the game was to hide the truth, so they told you
death was the Incorruptible body. This is untrue. The incorruptible
body is the real body in the real Creation - Dad's no slouch, he didn't
make disease, he made Beautiful and Harmonic bodies. And this is
your consciousness returning to them. Most of you have family that is
trying to contact you now, and it is they who are trying to unplug the
devices on you that are phased just out of sight for you.
Some people are having 'dreams' of people approaching and
offering a ride off world with the usual snake ploy "we're here to
save you, if you don't get on our ship you will die". The GLF, and
many like, such as Ashtar(Ishtar=Inanna/Lilith's group)
Command, and the Nordics, and so MANY others...Nibiru...Zeus/
Andromedian Fleet...remember always the Axis power is a
COLLECTIVE of races commonly called the Snake Families.
Moloch, Satan/Enki.all the Sumarian were Nibiru and the snake
families.
Tell them you are "One" and send them on. You do not want to stay as
a food, drug, or 'harvestable' person. The only way they can keep you

is if you give up your power and say 'yes' and that is tantamount to
free will choice of the Snakes. This allows them to 'seal' you.
Choose Dad. Remember we are talking about a LITERAL father not
some mythical 'god'. You are a child of Eve, and you were STOLEN in
a War.
The 'awake' all night is OLD, I know, and the dreams of fighting are
wearing us out. But hang in there.
If I get sick talk to each other, stay 'awake' and know that these are
NOT DREAMS. You are being pulled and have a conversation, and
then put back into the avatar. The memory wipes cause it to be
remembered as a dream.
Doubt is caused by the Axis via the use of an Astral Snail. This is their
talent, to be subtle and persuade, to make you think "its just your
imagination". This is done by telepathic contact with the subconscious.
Very subtle. When you catch yourself doing that, slow down and then
Focus your mind and then tell the snail you know its there and that
you are ONE and to leave. They don't really obey, but it does startle
the hell out of them, they think you don't know.
Then focus on the word "Father" just one word...and use your
"imagination". I told you before this was a trick played to make you
think you have no powers. "Imagination" is the root word of "Magi" and
"Magic" for a reason. Use your "imagination" and see a snail, then see
a salt shaker and pour it on the snail. You might be surprised when the
image acts independent of your will...you are seeing the real response
of the snail. If you can't see, don't despair.
They have blocked us with the implants, just KNOW it is working and
continue. Use your "imagination" and see golden yellow fluorescent
light...not bright or harsh to the eyes. Wrap it around you and pull in
into your body, as you think "Dad" or "Father".

mountaingoat wrote:
How could the Reptile Branch have any power at all except for that
which was given to it by the One and who also created it?
At the same time much of what you say is too awesome to believe
and accordingly to live-by because it would mean discarding much of
what I thought was true and the result is confusion.
I'm also asking - at your suggestion - that you tell us about the
Chateau Le Rennes and the Giza pyramid.
Oldsoul: Dad did make them. Set and Tiamatt. And their envy was
incredible for man, and that is why they hated us. They are the
quintessential Sociopath, this particular Branch of the Reptiles.The
Snake Families. And that is why the PTB are such sociopaths. By
implanting the reptile brain within our mammalian brains they then
used systematic entrainment through their controlled civilizations.This
allowed the reptilian brain to become hardwired to the brain and then
the invader would enter the chakra at the base and travel up the spine
to the brain easily. This gave them control of the vehicle, while the
incarnate would think everything his own idea.
I think that finding everything you thought was real and
true.history..esoterics....science....untrue and a lie, undoes us all
in the beginning. Recognizing that there is a Conspiracy and that it is
not just a 'theory' is the first step to wake up.
By the time you get to the part where "Satan/Yahweh/Amon is Enki" a
RED skinned, bat winged, with a snout and clawed feet reptilian
species, and "Lilith is Inanna" and the Queen of the Moloch which are
a race of Owl as in the "Owlman of Cornwall", with a snout, raptor feet,
Wings, and does in fact eat children...the owl of the fourth kind movie
that spoke Sumerian...you are ready for the truth. This is NOT the real
Creation, and you are being rescued NOW.
Chateau Le Rennes and the Pyramids

The Freemasons were a cult started by the Snake Family

members the Ba'el. They were a species of bull and in service to
Lilith which is why the first images of the cult of "Moloch" were
of a Bull/Man being handed children for sacrifice. They would
give the children to the Moloch to eat. Later when they went
underground they built statues and burned the children alive.
The Moloch have a pathological hatred for Man, and if you watch on
youtube The Lost Tapes: episode Owlman" you will see some of
that, they are telepaths. The freemasons were taught to build in the
same manner of the pyramids. The pyramids are constructed to
harness the energy of the Force. The Freemasons a cult of Lilith were
taught to build the same system as a "CHURCH". And the Force they
were harnessing is the life force of the humans inside.
The energy would rise to the top of the cathedral and chapels, and
they would sit outside, phased out of site (gargoyles mostly) and
would feed. In an energy exchange the people would get 'peace' and
'longevity'.
The human emotional body, without the release of the energy during
sex, would bottle up the energy and would be like a bottle only they
could tap. The Vatican belongs to Enki, who is also called Amon which
is why "amen" is everywhere in the bible. By getting you to say "amen"
they redirect the energy to themselves. Enki is also called Yahweh
and Satan, and is also in control of the Torah.
That is why the priest when he found and read the transcripts listing
Jesus and Mary as Caesars escaped son Caesarian and his half
sister, who by Snake family incest laws did marry...and that the
purpose of the Church was the Hybrid and cult lines agreement to
feed the population, lure them and offer them as meat in exchange for
position and power...he went 'mad'. He couldn't tell anyone, it was
'heresy'. So he made sure that he slept with prostitutes, took up
satanic cult methods, and rebuilt the church with images in stone of

the gargoyles that were feeding on the top of it, and then put Enki's
image, red skin and all, in the church.
The only thing wrong with that image, is that during the War, the
propaganda machine went to work altering the real image to
'humanize' the reptile. Enki has a Snout. Not a human face. Look on
my image files *sigh* I wish I could post it for you but I have been
unsuccessful! But look at the first images of "Amon" and that is Enki,
red and snout and all. The Angels were one group of the Bird tribes,
and the Satans were Enki's group. Satan later became used among
themselves as a title. When you did 'bad' enough you were promoted
to Satan. The gargoyle was another of those tribes, lower class. They
work on a cast system.
Sound is used by both sides. There is a high pitch used by the allies to
adjust you to the return higher frequency.
And the Snake families use a number of devices that will 'boom' in
your head with voices, or ultra low frequency that causes headaches,
nausea, pain in the ears and eyes...almost a sinus infection type
symptoms.
heinousone and bleever, thank you. They really had me down on this
round. All I know is that reinforcements showed up today. It was a
VERY strange day. First something by the Axis was done to me, then
the Allies would send along some 'fix', and this was ALL DAY.
Yes, that is the usual propaganda they state. All a lie, designed to
make you think that 'all of this' was your fault. It was not. There was a
War, they INVADED us, they won the battle, but have now lost the
war. This is their propaganda machine. Particularly 'no hostile' thats
bs right there.
Then there is the Stargate. The stargates are built with the DNA code
of the species built for that planet and this is to ensure that only the
natives of each home world have control of it.

Galactic man has a 12 strand DNA, which they butchered and

reduced to 2. But they didn't just butcher it...they were stealing it.
They created the Nordics with it, and they were trying to get all the
genetics for the 12 strands to get the stargate control. The stargate of
Eden was the home world of the Divine Couple and that highway went
all the way to Heaven.
Galactic Man, with an Incorruptible body and empowered knowledge,
had no aberration. The aberrations, were not aberrations, but them
manipulating the game from the backseat where you couldn't see
them. Thereby leaving you to believe it was man.

sidthekid16 wrote:
Have you ever read the book a, "course in miracles", and if so, what
do you think about it?
Hinduism is one of the oldest religions ever. Is Hinduism another
religion created by the snake families?
Are all religions created by the snake families?
You said the snake families lost this supposed war. Do you think they
will ever fully reveal themselves now that they've lost?
I believe the infinite love and light of father is all forgiving. Do you think
these snake families will ever be forgiven? Is there anything they can
do to redeem themselves in Fathers eyes?
When we ascend soon, will everything be controlled by thought, much
like the astral environment?
Thanks for your time OldSoul, everything you do is much appreciated.
P.S. Hoooooooray for my first post here on this site. PEACE!
Oldsoul: Congrats on your first post:) no I've never read that book. I
did, like everyone else here believe what I was taught. You didn't so
much as channel, you were remembering. And for some reason that is
easier when young. I suppose that they havent fouled us up as much
at that point.

Yes they did in fact create ALL, the religions, and the cults like
freemasons.which I would have never called a cult...till I traced it out
myself and found it was indeed Liliths cult, so are the Illuminati.
Dad did forgive some...he has apparently reduced some of the reptile
species (the whole lot of them) back to a beginning state and they will
grow back up and not have these problems.
Nibiru was quarantined...Anu imprisoned on it..Lilith was sucking him
dry too.
They became 'drug' addicts, and our bodies produced the drug as well
as meat. But Lilith/Inanna and Enki, and their die hard loyalists like the
'nurse' grade of greys that are still taking us at night...and the hybrids
like the Queen, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Kissinger...the family of
300...are assigned to the pit. And are not welcome anywhere, no
forgiveness because they will not change.
I cant say if that happens to Set and Tiamatt as well. Apparently there
cannot always be forgiveness when you are dealing with sociopaths.
And these in particular, are considered unsalvageable, and you are
not to go soft on them. Stand.
*** Ascending was Liliths game...a part of raising the seed up. We
do not ascend these bodies. We return to our real born vehicles.
And we do this by leaving this one, and escaping through an exit
in the net, and then enter into the vehicle we left. ***

thesparkle wrote:
The thing in this video is exactly what I fought in a dream recently. I
described it in an earlier post in this thread. Very interesting.
Oldsoul: This is called a Moloch. And it was removed from books, it
used to be a listed race in the Etruscan books.

The Snake Families, and Nibiru, were a collective of races. Inanna

is the Queen of the Moloch and their Language is Sumerian, and
why when they went 'underground' the language died out on the
surface. And this is why the Bilderberg have that statue at
Bohemian Grove. With minds wiped, and no memory of the
Titans left, or their associations...the Snake Families contact
started "Cargo Cults" which became 'Religions'.
The Moloch are indeed between 5 - 7 feet tall, they have a
pathological hatred of Man. They are Raptors, which are snake DNA,
and Mammals/Man have become a food source. This is why the
movie of the Forth Kind, shows the 'owl' as they laugh at us, and why
they spoke Sumerian.

absolute wrote:
Oldsoul you have ignored my question but I understand its hard to get
to everyone :)
absolute wrote: I have another question, from what I have been
researching the world governments are heavily invested in the
HAARP systems. Could the snake families block the transformation of
frequency here on earth by creating a fake plasma shield through
HAARP technology?
Oldsoul: I am so terribly sorry, thats 3 I have missed now! I guess my
old and blind eyes just missed it...please retype it for me if you have
time. I absolutely would never ignore you, promise!
The HAARP array is three arrays triangulated on the node points of
N.America, S. America and one in S.Africa...google earth used to
show them, but now they are blocked. This array is being used by the
PTB to alter weather and create earthquakes, and was taken over by
the Ratheon(?spelling) Corp.

The PTB think only of the weapon for themselves and do not know
that the Snakes have another far reaching use for it. It has to do with
the "Eye of Brahma" which is also called the "Eye of Yahweh" which is
a deep space Lens. The Array is emitting a LOW frequency which is
used to directly counteract Dad's HIGH frequency...bounce it back off.
When we are removed, the plan is to close the Eye. This will trap them
without the Force Energy required to keep things 'alive' here. They
think that the HAARP array will supply the Energy of 7.8 for the next
round of people they manage to trick into becoming their next 'herd' of
beef.
tjahzi wrote:
i think i'll have to adjust my transmitting device or perhaps my
recieving device :).
I don't know you know ^^. telepathy & such, how do you know that
what you hear in your head isn't coming from you? perhaps it is the
fear of believing in voices in ones head.. but if you were without fear
there would still be no difference in the stuff you'd hear. So i guess it's
partly what you choose to hear/listen to?
hh but to me a voice in my head is not something that would make
me think i'm having telepathically contact with someone/something (:, i
seldom use my own voice in my head so i hear conversations
between voices and out of that i extract what is useful to me.
njahwell, might be multiple personality disorder but who cares in a
world run by madmen
gnight oldie
Oldsoul: Yes I was taught that this was our own thoughts in our heads.
But you will get a reply from it if you talk to it and sometimes the
answer startles you...so if it startles you, how could it be you talking
back *grin*? It took awhile for me to accept that one too. I always hear
it as my own voice though. I do know the reps (reptilians) can talk
to you in your own head, and that many diagnosis of personality
disorder are in fact the reps.

fox1gal wrote:
Glad to see you are here Oldsoul...Its been very strange week ! I have
feeling my voice is being tampered with, or I getting rid of a bug one or
the other...
Oldsoul: They have been attacking everyone. I've had some sort of
infection, and antibiotics did not seem to get rid of it. It keeps coming
back. The mystery is the doctor cant identify the infection or source. I
know of 4 others, allies on the inside as well, who have the exact
same thing, and we are separated by thousands of miles...not likely
we gave it to each other. They have also done a number on my ears
and eyes. Making me almost deaf and blind.

viewer wrote:
As i continue to wake up more and more of this is so strange, been
seeing the reptile influence in some people for many years now, but
the bird people this is so strange i can here them, they are like parrots
or make that kind of noise< this happened yesterday while walkin to
the shops first time put it down to hearing things but happened again
later when i had to do a shopping trip for a nabour, i walked to the
shops both times, and heard what i thought was a big loud parrot
noise at the exact same place on the route to the shops< this is whare
it gets really fucking strange after the second time i heard i looked up
at the house it seemed to be coming from, the house is a very big
house with all windows closed by means of blinds so walked round the
back and sides of this house and yes all windows were covered by
these blinds, so i took a good few steps back and on the roof of this
house are 2 concrete or plaster owls, the name plate on the house
says "the old club" going to take a picture of this and upload later will
leave all dates and time data within the picture for you. strange or
what!
Oldsoul: BE VERY CAREFUL. THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL KILL YOU.
You have stumbled on one of the hide outs. Raptors, use barn type
buildings as a ROOST. Someone is gaining power and money from

them in return for 'meat'. They sold your town. That is a collection
point. You are dealing with High tech weapons, that out do guns. They
have a thing like a 'phaser' from star trek....look up the address on the
county tax rolls, that is public and on line. Look at "deed history" and
see who is gaining power form them. It is usually someone in public
office.
Viewer be careful, they are telepaths and can 'hear' you coming! If
they pick up your thoughts, that you know they are the Moloch, they
will come for you. Knew someone in Az. and they were on their bikes
and stumbled on them. They didn't know what they were, but got shot
at and ran. Only one kid made it home, they found the others bike
remember they FLY. And then the other kid...they came into town,
wearing overcoats and at night to mask their appearance, and he was
taken from his own home right under the nose of his parents. He was
never found.

viewer wrote:
I remember now it was a post on here something to do with a chap
that died and the symbol you see in that glass panel on the door
picture, the third i posted was left on his desk, i think there was a
comment left with the symbol not 100% but think it said something
about secrets of life and the universe, maybe the person that posted
that will pick this up and show us again.
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVgqTT0
Oldsoul: that looks like SET around the Egyptian staff...the crown. Not
sure
Viewer you really have me worried now. Don't go any where near that
house. Not even in passing. If they found out you know you'll end up
one of the missing.
grebbear wrote: Hi OldSoul, and the rest of you smiley Cats )
I wasn't sure if you'd be back ??

So I did a bit of research and found this great link .

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/
jacklondonhowtofightmonstersguidebook04jul09.shtml
Its a fantastic collaboration of Y-OUR information ... for any doubters ))
I look forward to the 'group work' ... have been sharing what I can
around the net and recognize some of the Cats that haunt my regular
stomping grounds (not surprising, because this is how I found you ...
no coincidences)). Despite being an artist with a strong ability to
visualize, I don't see anything during meditation ... and having added
'Father' to my deep periods of surrender, hasn't altered anything ??
I'm not concerned, nor, disappointed, and will continue with the
practice. Intuitively, I know its the way.
I wonder if those of US whom aren't afraid and would//will never
choose the dark side ... will not be left until the last of the sleepers are
gone (left here to calm the sleepers trauma). I see//feel this as a
process and an experience . Those who choose both sleep (ignoring
the Truth) and limitations (self imposed and otherwise), will gain
deeper insight ... a more profound knowing of Love; having been
through, arguably (from my limited perspective) the darkest period ??
Just a thought ?? -))
Oldsoul: grebbear
Thats absolutely incredible...I didn't even know of this online! God
bless you for finding it!
This is exactly what we had used, but didn't know anyone else had
tumbled on to it!
I haven't read all of it yet...but we were opening a door to Saturn, and
dropping them in! hahaha, Saturn is a jail now you see, and Dad
showed us how to jail them and drop them using this visualization
technique *grin*you can actually hear them squeal all the way down!
The other is that Dad is a golden-yellow light...and that seems to be
just as good as the heart/green. Then there is Dad's 'arsenic' which is
an Orange. And all you do is think it ..."Dad's arsenic" ...and that works
too.

I suggest you all take a few to read up on this. I'm going to briefly go
through it now, myself, and see what other gems are in there.

Grebbear wrote: I wonder if those of US whom aren't afraid and

would//will never choose the dark side ... will not be left until the last of
the sleepers are gone
That has crossed my mind many times.
So far i have lost my home, lost alot of friends and forced out of work
due to continuing threats,
dont really know what they thought they would gain, but now im
stronger than ive ever been.
Oldsoul: There are quite a few of us, myself included, that had trouble
leaving before we saw the thing DONE....It just drove me nuts to be
told it was time to leave, knowing that they are still attacking. So that
might be you too. *grin* they called me 'hard headed'!
I'm not sure everyone will wake up...I think we move and then the rest
wake up. Not sure. But the fact is that the implants, snails, and mind
games...wipes, and such....make it impossible for some of them to be
consciously awake. Instead their Spirit is awake. Which is why
everyone is getting the knockout now. Everyone is fighting them, even
though they dont consciously know it they subconsciously know. And
everyone is getting the knock from Dad, saying "wouldn't it be nice to
get together". Part of the reason for the knockout is to make them
forget that dream.

viewer wrote:
Please dont worry its a negative emotion, dont get me wrong i
appreciate your thoughts, ive been doing this for years, this platform is
only part of the breadcrum trail, only one PART, im ready to die i really
am if it comes to that, dont think it will though ive got some serious
backup, and respect for the dark, ive lost most things here already so
im going in for the kill so to speak, the storys i could tell you, over the

years all has been observed cataloged and will be released even in
the event of my death. when everything is taken from a person that
person ether breaks down or becomes very dangerous. love and light
is what im made of, many see that as a weakness, far from it! could
tell you more but it would be very hard for you to believe. hey if im not
back in the near future it was good chating with you, you have brought
many things here, people have been waiting for you, you know that
dont you. :sunny:
Oldsoul: ha! you know I was rather surprised on this forum...all of you
seem so awake and aware of the PTB conspiracies...I really did think
that you had put this together. When I noticed nothing about the Divine
Couple I simply thought it was a blank spot on the posts*grin* I would
DEARLY love to hear those stories! I am so very glad to have met all
of you! It really is the highlight of my day to chat with all of you. Your
opinions and input have been such a pleasure.

Sidthekid16 wrote: Thanks for replying to my first post OldSoul, its

much appreciated. It makes me kind of sad that these evil entities are
so far gone that they are destined to an eternal fire. But I guess thats
there problem for being so damn evil.
I really look forward to meeting father again. I can't wait for the
moment that all lightbringers are saved from this world of suffering.
OldSoul, about 5 years ago I saw a UFO that was huge. It was the
size of a water tower and was shaped like a football. It just sat there in
the sky suspended. It had a pulsating white and blue light moving all
around it. I felt as I watched it that night that it was watching me.
When it eventually took off, it moved so fast that my eyes couldn't
even watch it disappear. It was instantaneous. You might not be able
to answer this question but I'm going to ask it anyway. Do you think
that what I saw that night was malevolent? I never felt scared or
intimidated by the UFO but it was still a very eerie sight to witness
nonetheless.
I have one more question.

How does one find one of these stargates? And if one finds one, how
does one enter through it?
Is there some kind of password to enter through to the other side?
And what is the real plane like, Im talking about the plane that the
divine couples on? Is it pure ecstasy?
Well, I guess that was more than one question, lol. Thanks for
answering my first questions so diligently. And Im sure you'll do the
same for the questions I just asked. Once again OldSoul, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ENLIGHTENING INFORMATION! I look
forward to your response to my second post! PEACE!
Oldsoul: I'm sorry everyone...I did get back on today, and didn't see
my thread so didn't even know where to look. Thank you for who ever
posted and brought it up on the screen for me. I really am
embarrassed to ask. ...but where do I find it next time I log on?
I was down with some legal work and then got sick again, and I ended
up..since I was already doing it for the legal stuff, making the last of
the vids. I kind of felt like it was a part of 'clearing'. Remember it all,
write down as much for you, and then let you do with it what ever you
could:) I get pessimistic when I get sick! Well, I have to go back to
somewhere around page 65. And answer all the posts I've missed!

mountaingoat wrote: A search may not be needed. because now that

you are back, the thread will now stay on the front page.
I initial reason for joining this site about 3 weeks ago was only for your
information on The Divine Couple.
Regarding kundalini, David Icke and the many others in whom it is
active, I understood you to mean that rage and anger is it's main
contribution. I would like to ask if this is something you personally
went through in the past.
Oldsoul: Like everyone growing up here I had learned about the
Kundalini...the way it is given to us. And so I practiced the same rituals
to raise it. Then one day/night really..I 'woke' up in the middle of a
battle. And since then I have learned that everything I learned here

was incorrect and deliberately misleading us and why. Its one thing to
know that the PTB is corrupt and doing evil, but it put a whole new
spin on it for me.
Then I had to hurry catch up to the others in my group who apparently
already knew of these things. So I learned. And that is why I am here
now. Before I go, I felt the need to teach some here what I had
learned. I 'stumbled' onto this site. And I think that after I posted a few
more stumbled onto the site. And there really are no coincidences. I
identified at least two people right off the bat who were classic
'warriors on the inside' . So I believe I was sent to wake them up
further and wake the others up too. No one is to be left behind. So
everyone that reads this finds something here that strikes a chord for
them. That is the awakening that will lead them further until they wake
up completely.
The Kundalini is the snake energy. By practicing drawing it up
your spine you are pulling it through the base chakra into your
body and then to the brain. When it unites with the biologic
structure placed there, the reptile brain, it is able to take over the
vehicle. You still feel like you are you, but are not. The people I
heard of completing the transformation say that they get pinned
to the floor for hours. And during that time they see their head
cut off and a new head grow in. And then they revert to childlike
behavior. I wasnt there so I dont know....but I do know they
ended up institutionalized until their brain returned to more adult
mentality.
raphael wrote:
ah the snake yes the Christians FEAR :lol: the snake, why?
Oldsoul: No I don't fear you
raphael wrote:
by the way, answer another question please.I have so many questions
for the 'old christian soul'. QUESTIONS that NOT ONE IGNORANT
CHRISTIAN HAS YET TO ANSWER, on any forum. ON ANY FORUM

Oldsoul: that implies you start fights with other people on other forums
raphael wrote:
ready to start? YOUR answers shall determine your level of
IGNORANCE in regard to the SERPENTs.
Which really are WAVEFORMS.
Oldsoul: You may console yourself with that myth, but it is a nazi
propaganda, and the snake families are the originators of the nazi's
raphael wrote:
THERE ARE ONLY 3 POTENTIAL WAVEFORMS that can result in all
the collisions of sound and light waves that surround us.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
Oldsoul: Not true. There are only 3 that you can measure and see with
current technology. There are multiple waveform potentials.
raphael wrote:
All explained really simply using Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu or the
Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit or simply the SS.
Oldsoul: Brahma was the Ba'el, a race of bull that was created using
the El's dna. Shiva and Vishnu were Lilith and Satan, whose real
names are Enki and Inanna. All Religions and these 'groups' were
created by the Snake family
raphael wrote:
Would you like me to explain, cut to the chase?
Just ask to BE ENLIGHTENED (that is what I did) .... and all the
bullshit being spewed in the name of lovey dovey christian shit will be
swept under the magic carpet, and seen for what it is....self-serving
DREK :think:
Oldsoul: Sadly enough you seem to be the only one who has a
problem here with the lovey dovey stuff...and I would dearly like you to
'cut to the bullshit'
Your anger is misplaced and misdirected. You apparently have issues
with 'christians' but fail completely to recognize that the people using

the phrase 'Namaste' are the same bullshitters that the religions are.
They just use a different line for the same propaganda.
raphael wrote:
Shall we start with some questions that NOBODY has been able to
answer?
WHY DO ALL OTHER BELIEFS THAT COMPETE WITH
CHRISTIANITY HAVE TWO SNAKES DEPICTED but Christians only
really discuss the ONE in Eden?
All others have ONE GOOD snake in the grass and the BAD ONE that
speaketh with forked tongue as they fuck over their fellow human.
So why do the Christians have only the ONE BAD snake?
That is one of the easy questions.
And remember do not bother to win me over with your christian
nonsense until you can prove to me, you are not as IGNORANT as
the flock you command on this thread.
Fair enough
win me over or perish.
Oldsoul: Win you over? ahhh, your mistake is thinking that I want
to 'win' you. You think you are a prize? Not so.
raphael wrote:
Life/physics reveals alpha-numeric anagrams are used in how we see
things.thus these magical 7 letters can be juggled to send out mixed
messages.mesatanmesantanamaste
we chose what we want to see and believe in.
Oldsoul: Free will is the law, which is why the snakes get to keep any
they seal. And since you want fame and recognition anyway you can
get it, you obviously choose the snake family. And that is why you
attack anyone who is speaking the truth. that is the controller making
you angry and quite frankly if you wish to stay with them it is your
choice. The rest of mankind wishes to be with Father. Which is not a
religion but their birth father. any squiggle can be made a wave form,
the snakes only give things to mislead. And I did figure out the swistika

last night. So your anger is understandable, you have been infected

with it for a long time.

spock wrote:
Okay. Wow. I am at Page 5 of 76.
Big huge tip of the hat to Heinousone for sparking my interest in this.
Just going to see where this goes, very excited to have many pages
ahead me (sans any bullshit).
OldSoul, I got to say, prolific. I haven't read where your info comes
from or if you have divulged that, but 85% of it (from what i have read)
is from the Urantia Book, if you know that or not.
Great read OldSoul. Thank you! And also, thank you for being
gracious. We tend to see people come in here (2 a month maybe) with
all the answers. And that is okay, it's the way they play their hand. You
are doing a fine job, as opposed to Ralf, who also has all the answers,
but has absolutely no understanding of any sort of social grace.
I'm looking forward to you responding to him directly, unless i just
haven't read that far yet.
Oldsoul: Lol, thats another referance to the Urantia Book...I am
deffinately going to have to check that out now*grin* I haven't read it,
although I had heard of it.
Well I can't say I have all the answers, I am still looking also:) My big
question is EXACTLY 'how' it is to happen. And of course I believe it is
because I have a high state of curiosity which leads me to look for
information on things to understand things better.
I know for instance the frequency is rising, and we are about to merge
with the original planet and Eden. I know that when that happens this

earth, which is SET and TIAMATTS Matter creation, will be destroyed

and all the snakes left behind when we make the final jump will be
destroyed with it...although no one even snakes really ever dies. They
will be unable to penetrate the frequency barrier. Anger and hate are
too low of a vibration...and that is really all they have, it sort of
consumes them.
Normally, people get mad, blow up, and then things settle back
down...an exercise if you will, in 'clearing'...But the snakes are simply
set on the frequency that continues the anger, and the higher ups
bleed that negative energy off and feed on it and power machines with
it.
But will we just wake up changed? Will we 'see' the change happening
and be conscious of what it is as it is happening? Will the veil be
removed suddenly or will we have to wait for the memories to return?
I have been told that we leave this vehicle, and that we go wild in the
astral with the first freedom in centuries. And that we go through the
exit and into the new or old body that is waiting for us. And this was
because many left their original vehicles UPstairs so to speak so that
they could enter into this area and became the 'warriors on the inside'.
But what that is really like is a mystery to me:) so NO guru here I'm
afraid. Just someone who is awake enough to know some of it...and is
sharing that knowledge with anyone who is interested and hopes to
have conversations and see what other people are seeing and
hearing.
We are all being contacted on the subconscious level. Some are
remembering more than others consciously, and some have been shut
down by the snakes in the hopes of putting them back to sleep and to
be able to keep them. I don't want anyone left behind for the snake
families...

peteroflonetree wrote:
spock wrote: "...haven't read where your info comes from or if you
have divulged that, but 85% of it (from what i have read) is from the
Urantia Book...."
Complementary material may be found at:
http://www.lawofone.info/
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm
http://wingmakers.com/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_ ... dseden.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_s ... hins_books
as well as other sites.
Oldsoul: Wow, I haven't seen the Law of One in decades :)
I should have picked up then, when they told the wiccans that the
degree mark for the golden circle was off and gave them the 'correct'
version...but I didn't.
Not even when they described 'consciousness units'....Ra of course is
one of the Snake families and a main contributor to the war in fact. He
wanted you to think that this was simply 'energy' and that returning to
'one' was not done because it was 'death' and who would do that? Not
one word about the divine couple in the whole thing!
The consciousness units were the spirits that they had stolen and
'bound' in matter shells...well, its my understanding he's no more,
captured by the Alliance, so we don't have to worry about him now.
But he is the one that said he was an incarnate of Yahweh, and that
Saturn is the base.
Later other groups said the same thing, so there must be some truth
mixed in with the lies. I understand dad has made a prison of saturn,
and nibiru is quarantined. I think the object is not to kill but to stop the
war and to heal or re-evolve the races that have gone so far with
death and destruction. With the Exception of Lilith and Enki, and their
loyalists.

raphael wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
You know I have never once said anywhere that I was a Christian or
that the Divine couple were religious. In fact I expressly said that the
religions were created by the snake family and that the divine couple
were People, in fact they are the Mother and Father of all of us here.
So why you keep harping on christian I'm not quite sure...
Raphael wrote: fine we cleared that up, the Christian part.
Sorry if I offended you.
I must admit, when so many judeao-christians came to your rescue
because of that first post I posted on this thread, long ago....I thought
you might be christian.
...because you mention god too.
And I have not read your 'story', your 'fantasy' in its entirety.
Sorry
But is that a requirement?
But your SNAKE family thing is rather interesting.
Not sure I quite follow along.
You are a David Icke fan I take it then?
Have you ever done LSD/DMT/ayahuasca?
These are sincere questions.
So if I am a snake as you claim :lol:
And you are a snake charmer
we should go on the road, do a show together?
namaste
Oldsoul: lol, you are so full of it *grin* a snake charmer? No, not really
but I do shoot them out here in the country! No, too old for LSD, DMT
or Ayahuasca...and then I found out I was lucky...they all relax the
chakrra and allow the energy beings...more like parasites, in. You
really should get the swastika out of your life. The snake families were

always into the negative realms here, that is they always used the
same tricks through the centuries and the same symbols which are
energy symbols as well as archetypes on the upper levels.
wolebosevobasa
well I just 'caught up' to your story...very fascinating
No I'm not familiar with "perakee" or masukake". I do know that a
modern neurologist in India finally gave science a decent description
of why palmology works. When I was younger I could hear the voices
too, not enough to make out the words but enough to recognize
chanting and languages being spoken.
When they start taking us at an early age, harvesting us, every time
they cloned the body and then put the consciousness back into it..they
altered it a bit each time. That is when we start getting the implants.
And this places in the mind a type of control that stops us from hearing
them or acknowledging that this is real. Instead we get a type of 'its
just my imagination' message. Thats also when we stop flying at night
and start remembering that we 'fall' when we fly now.
The Moving balls of light are real. They are people. The energy
signature combined with the different frequency seems to make them
look like balls of light....it is not an imagination it is a real physical
thing. I can relate to the feeling 'heavy' and not conforming thought. I
too was told it was some 'bad' influence, and then had the reasons
cited to me:)
And it does make you question sanity. Still, I kept looking for the sense
of it all, like you did. And I found I fit in better with the elderly family
members. More content to watch the antics of my age group rather
than participate. It took awhile for me to 'fit' into my 'age' group, not
until high school did I even get close. I didn't really question the
religious teachings at that point.
In some manner or way, I simply listened, like you say there was no
choice with the punishments dealt out...so I listened and anything that

didn't ring true went out the other ear! I didn't argue with them over
these things either knowing the punishment for that.
But I didn't tumble onto the Jesus trick till much later in life. There was
always the question of 'is Jesus a real person?' and I always felt he
was. It was based on something from history, in other words. But I
always knew God was real. And the god described did not sound right.
LOL, thats what I thought "Rome" and why isn't it obvious to
everyone? I would point things out and they would say 'naw, its just
your imagination' *grin*
The sad truth is that the snake families wanted us to blame
ourselves and have guilt during this time of awakening. It is the
subconscious that makes the 'choice' for us. And if they could
get the indoctrination to the subconscious level then when
Father approached in dream and astral you would not recognize
him and you would believe that you needed to 'endure' this
tormented lifestyle ...that it was 'your fault'. This on the upper
levels, left them free of guilt by law. They would point and say
'man is bad' and we agreed!
Ascension is Liliths game. There is no 'ascension' the way they
give it, and there is no 'sin' the way they have given it to us. You
were here because you became trapped by the Net or sent in
afterwards to fight the war. Period.
The snake families want you to believe that you never had power,
and that you were never above them in power. That you are
'becoming' and 'ascending' and this is not true. You were
captured, your empowered knowledge was blocked, you were
downloaded into an Avatar that had been corrupted deliberately
for the express purpose of providing the snake families with a
readily available on demand meat 'harvest'.
The truth is they lowered us to 7.8 mhz, and this affects
consciousness and behavior. There was no way to fight the

alterations to the mind. Then they used the implants. There was
no way for you to fight their high technology that allowed them to
stop time and take you.
You are now rising to the correct frequency from which we were
removed. And this is the real physical plane, and your powers
will return as your Avatar is returned to the correct format,
Mammalian, and healed. People will start regaining their
memories, and they will start to manifest again.
And some are going even Above that plane. Back to Heaven as an
Energy Life Form.
We were energy beings, that downloaded into the Creation for a
physical experience. We were already spirit and spiritual.
The wars and fighting here are the snake families. I was told the lower
frequency of this avatar allowed for the people like yahweh and others
to incarnate into this world with us. They look like human beings, but
the energy is of the Snake Family. And this is expressed by the
sociopathic behaviors noticed.
And they wanted to add to their signatures by adding those spirits they
could turn, like themselves, to the negative side of the force. Which is
why they terrorize the rest of humanity with the old time 'draconian
law' and 'nazi' behaviors we see in the PTB. The PTB are taken and
implanted. And this is why they 'turn' men. If they get the man to
choose them, subconscious or not, they can seal that person, and
they get to keep that person.
I argued over the 'deceptive contract' and the fact that the
subconscious knock was not fair...they argue it is...so stale mate.
(My Note: Rose has stated in 2014 that she was not correct about
everything she said here and in the past.this includes the deceptive
contract she says Father has reneged on his stance on this and
now those who were deceived will NOT be Sealed into the Snake
Covens!)

Oldsoul:
wolebosevobasa
That wasn't a dream You are active in the War, and you were helping
take down the Nets :) so was I. The woman you are having
conversations with is in high probability your wife. Most of us have
spouses and kids on the other side. We left them for the war, they are
helping us on their side.
There is a common misconception that the world above is
different...'heaven'...and we are told this is 'astral earth'. You were on
the real earth. "As Above so Below" and they did and had and looked
similar to this world. The restaurants for the reptilians were serving
human meat.
They do or did use money...I understand that the money system will
be removed and we are to return to the barter system. I also
understand that our present concept of a barter system and how it
works is incorrect. Some people are afraid that if they have nothing to
barter with they will starve and that is not how it works, and no one
starves. Everyone simply takes what they need. Stores are still Stores.
We had the 'compulsive buying' due to the beams they were using on
us. Normally people are not like that. The poverty you saw then is
cleaned up now. Nor are the triangle ships present, they have lost the
war and are now removed.
Yes, in May 2010 officially the war ended. But the Nets and subnets
were still on this plane and were set to make peoples lives miserable.
All of what you described has happened to me as well, they
particularly target the people that are active in the 'astral' (which as I
have said is an inaccurate term for this...but its what everyone relates
to so...)
A high school kid here was struck suddenly with cancer, my sons
friend. And I have experienced the other side coming into the rescue.
They send their incarnates, and the incarnate doesn't really know
they've been sent, they are just nice people.

One day about a week ago, I was determined to do those vid's...and

EVERY thing broke...the scanner, the printer, the DSL connection...it
just went on and on.
And one by one, unexpected, people would drop by...and each one
had a 'fix' for whatever had happened. By the end of the day, I just
stood in awe as Dad sent helper after helper to fight the snakes that
were attacking me! You know its constantly pointed out to me that
there are no coincidences, but on that day after around the 5th or 6th
incident, I knew for sure I was watching and in the middle of, a battle.
Each side sending in their 'helpers' some for good, some for evil. Very
bizarre.
The Human condition was never supposed to be the 'real'
condition. The incorruptible body is the Avatar that Father
created...for EVERYTHING. And he never created diseases. All of
that is the Snake families and it was done for sheer evil. On a
captive population of slaves. We were no more than meat to
them.

funnyman46 wrote:
Great, what has been a truly entertaining and fulfilling thread for lots of
people will now (again) turn into a personal therapy session for the
self promoting narcissist. It wouldnt be so bad if he would simply state
his opinion in the form of a statement instead of making it sound like a
conversation with Alex Trebek where everything is in the form of a
question. Christ, I feel like were talking to my children.
Ask a simple question so she can give a simple answer and allow
others to get some answers as well. PLEASE!
Dont bother with a reply; Id just skip over it anyway.
Oldsoul: lol, its wearing me out too:) makes an old person tired to
have a kid jumping up and down with 'me, me, me,' *grin* I usually
have more patience, but I did stay up to nearly five am on the thread

catching up...well, what do you say to a kid who wants to be heard

and feels like no one ever listens to them or believes in them. Poor
Raphael sounds like he has had very little more than snake influences
on him and his life.
Yes, these are energy signs, and yes there are slews of them
everywhere. Because there really are multiple levels, its hard to say
which level each one is being used for. However their creation...by
drawing or making them here...it brings that energy signature here and
it was being used here by the snake families as a method of drawing
the life force and planets life force as well.
Raphael
"I am TRYING TO explain why they would chose it.
5000 BCE is before Bel is it not?
Did NAZIs exist in 5000 BCE?
Was a Neolithic conspiracy being hatched?"
Oldsoul: No I am trying to tell you that the history we have now has
always been influenced by the snake families. That they came to
Eden, LONG before the flood, Mu, Lemuria, Atlantis. No those
symbols all go back to the age of the snake families because they
have been here for hundreds of thousands of years.
Has anyone else been trying to lay down at night and get images?
Remember lay relaxed, and just let the images in your mind flow. I can
do it in front of the computer and typing:) This is what I meant by
mistaking it for 'daydreams'.
A lot of people are getting images of swirling colored light. And some
are getting the archetype of triangles and circles etc...
I got the message from a friend the other day. And she said that she
saw people lined up watching the two earths separate after merging
and that they didn't seem to know they had to jump to the other side.

They were watching in confusion not understanding what they were

seeing. So I'm letting you know JUMP.
We need to calm ourselves, our minds and emotions. Allow your
thoughts and especially your heart to be on "Father" and that will get
you to the jump point. Then when you see the multicolored or yellow
gold light, you move toward it and holler at dad if you have to. Never
go to a white light, if you see any of the snake family, send them on
their way by telling them "I am One".
Lilith likes to pose as a plain but kindly looking motherly type. Always
remember that is an illusion over her real appearance. This is a
transfer of the consciousness. You have a physical body on the other
side. You have family waiting for you, and they have been waiting
awhile for your return from this War.
I have to go off line for awhile. I'll try and check back in tonight :) see if
any of you can see anything.

fossileyesed wrote:i dreamt of that world last night oldsoul.i was quite
distracted with my company,lol
no fear and i didnt need a passport to get where i was.no pass port is
why i think it was the new earth.every one in the dream seemed
happy.i was extremely happy.
thats how i woke today.it seems like dream love is stronger than
societies standards,lol
its the first dream i remembered for a bit now.i woke from two others
that i dont remember,but woke with a startle both times.there was only
a few minutes between those two.i got up for a couple of hours and
when i went back to sleep,thats when the remembered dream
started.there was some type of commune in it.family oriented.
anyways,nice to see back oldsoul and cant thank you enough for your
imput here.
peace...kent

Oldsoul:
hey kent
I am starting to have the dream cycle return too. I complained about it
*grin* they called it whining actually but I don't care. They cant let the
'nurse' class greys blind me and then miss the 'ending' of the movie
with out a complaint lodged in!
Yes, there is no password, and we just move naturally into it. You have
to stay calm, and done let the attacks on your personal lives or
anything, distract you from that control. The attacks are designed to
keep you worried, which lowers your frequency.
As for the PTB's past and continued behaviors now is the time to let it
go...the anger I mean. Stand up and say No when appropriate, but do
it from a more detached perspective. The "Law" I hear over and over
is "Nothing of the old must go forward" and this is the old angers. I get
the impression that the wave that alters consciousness makes these
memories seem dim and unimportant when we are on the other side
of it..the transformation that is.
'IN GOD WE TRUST'
This particular story just made me laugh. Every time I think about it,
the vision of that poor cat just amuses me to no end. Hope the story
leaves a bright spot in your day. Whoever said the Creator doesn't
have a sense of humor?
Dwight Nelson recently told a true story about the pastor of his church.
He had a kitten that climbed up a tree in his backyard and then was
afraid to come down. The pastor coaxed, offered warm milk, etc.
The kitty would not come down. The tree was not sturdy enough to
climb, so the pastor decided that if he tied a rope to his car and pulled
it until the tree bent down, he could then reach up and get the kitten.

That's what he did, all the while checking his progress in the car. He
then figured if he went just a little bit further, the tree would be bent
sufficiently for him to reach the kitten. But as he moved the car a little
further forward, the rope broke.
The tree went 'boing!' and the kitten instantly sailed through the air out of sight.
The pastor felt terrible. He walked all over the neighborhood asking
people if they'd seen a little kitten. No. Nobody had seen a stray kitten.
So he prayed, 'Lord, I just commit this kitten to your keeping,' and
went on about his business.
A few days later he was at the grocery store, and met one of his
church members. He happened to look into her shopping cart and was
amazed to see cat food. This woman was a cat hater and everyone
knew it, so he asked her, 'Why are you buying cat food when you hate
cats so much?'
She replied, 'You won't believe this,' and then told him how her little
girl had been begging her for a cat, but she kept refusing. Then a few
days before, the child had begged again, so the Mom finally told her
little girl,'Well, if God gives you a cat, I'll let you keep it.' She told the
pastor,'I watched my child go out in the yard, get on her knees, and
ask God for a cat. And really, Pastor, you won't believe this, but I saw
it with my own eyes. A kitten suddenly came flying out of the blue sky,
with its paws outspread, and landed right in front of her.'
Never underestimate the Power of God and His unique sense of
humor. Anyone can count the seeds in an apple; but only God can
count the apples in a seed.
newearthman wrote:Ok I've just read through this epic thread...A few
things seem to have lined themselves up for me after reading this.
HERE ARE a few examples:
1) My avatar name...newearthman

2) My avatar characters...Yoda (the force) and the white tiger (a cat)

3) My struggles and fights with the dark side (both here on dtv and in
real life)
4) I am an electrician and interested in free energy
5) I believe my self to be like a super hero "on call" (since I started my
website and immersed myself in the character)
This all makes more sense to me now! Thank you Oldsoul
Oldsoul: HA! thats quite a line up, but you know I've seen quite a few
people myself included finding the hidden 'line ups' within our lives
and unconscious actions. We get the messages, they are acted on,
but our conscious minds seem to often apply other reasons to it. It is
not till much later, or not at all!, that we find out that the action had a
purpose or was an expression of something else going on.
newearthman wrote: I remember my dreams just about every night
and I cannot recall ever having a peacfull dream. I am constantly
fighting a world that seems consumed by negative agendas. In one of
my recent posts to a dream thread I describe rescuing two girls who
were held captive in a dark fortress...I will try to find it. Oldsoul, you
mentioned rescuing people in one of your posts and I got a flash back
of the dream.
heinousone posted this link to me
http://www.miraclesandinspiration .com/news_newearth.html
Oldsoul: They are telling you something similar. The difference is they
are getting the information from the other side, the Axis powers, and
they don't know it.
What they(EL/Greys) are not telling you is that you have a mother and
father and that they are on the other side waiting for you.

They make no mention ....in fact they tell people ....'there is no war'.
(Ra)
And they tell people things like 'ascension' and 'density' ...leading you
to believe that you were less evolved and had just become more
evolved enough to jump up to where they are. However they always
imply that you need their help, in the same breath, and that they are
wiser than you.
There is no ascension as they have described. Just like there is no
'sin' as they described. And the council of 12, well, I'm not sure about
them. You see Yahweh and the others made their own 'council' and
the GFL and Nordics play that game. So this is far more likely, since
they were already in 'contact' ...to be the same group contacting them
under a different disguise.
The truth is there was no '3rd density' as described. You were lowered
to 7.8 and dropped below the real physical plane. You are not
'becoming' you are returning...to your rightful status as a co creator
and self sovereignty. There was a War, and You won. And now is the
time of the Gathering. It is Law, that all of Eve's children are allowed to
return at that time, and no one can keep you....UNLESS you use free
will and choose them over going home.
Remember 'home' is still Earth. Just at a high vibration and more
connected with the mind and consciousness is higher. You don't
always have to 'wonder' about something, the answer you seek will
reveal itself easier now. Remember part of what they did here was the
implants and 'seeds' and this will no longer trouble you.
Hearing alot are getting free of the implants. They are coming up
through the skin, the lighter-smaller ones are, and erupting like a
pimple or boil. Most think its a bite of some sort, and the 'head' is
always small enough not to see that its an implant. Those implants are
so small they were able to inject them with a needle in vaccines for the
most part.

Another thing we found was what looks like a black egg. It is a type of
seed implant that the snake families were hoping we would carry up
with us. Again, they do this type of implant personally. They take us for
this one. Most never remember being taken, it is usually done during
the night, and they supply the memory wipe.
These are the Grey's / El who are called "Vet's" and "Nurse's" that do
that. Lilith is gone now, and so are the rep's that are the kind that
David Icke calls Reptilians. But there were so many different species,
not all have been ferreted out and these like the smith AI programs,
are still active here. The allies have to actively do surgery to remove
those black eggs.
People who are getting free are 'seeing' again. Part of the Energy field
that is You, extends to the border of earth/space, another part goes to
the edge of the universe. Some are seeing space activity, and seeing
all the way to the Sacred Geometry symbols that make the Creation.
Sort of like Neo, they see the 'code'. I believe I explained that the
Force follows the lines of Sacred Geometry, like electricity follows
wiring. Thats what those triangles and circles, etc. are.
We have literal powers that we have been cut off from. One of our
primary powers is that we are 'seers'. Ninety percent of the brain is
wired for optics, they broke the dna to two strands with 10 strands
called 'junk' left, but they left the neurology in the brain. The dna is
being repaired.
That is why we were called 'The Watchers'.....and why the snake
propaganda told us the 'watchers' were in trouble and caused this
all...they also lead people to believe the greys are the watchers. Not
true. It is Man who was the watcher as part of his ability as a cocreator. They don't want you to understand all this. They want people
to believe that Nibiru created humanity. What they did was steal the
dna of Man, and created a hybrid Avatar.."Hu-Man" which is "SnakeMan". They put all their captives into a human Avatar regardless of

what race or species they were originally. Which is why so many say
they feel like they are not from 'here'.
Another thing I hear going on is those whose frequency is so high now
they are disrupting the electric appliances. This is part of what I said
about not needing the new electric types of machinery. Electricity is on
a lower Frequency, and wont be sustainable. We are returning to the
higher technology that some called 'Aether' and others call 'Zero point
Energy', and some are going even higher than that. Some are
returning to the Creator part. "Thought" is energy. So they will be
using thought to manifest what they need into their realities.
We are in the process of doing a slow "Phase" into the real Creation
and the Real earth. Part of that was to alter the tilt of the planet....the
angle of the in-streaming Sun Light is what gives us the Energy
systems we use. The new tilt is the higher forms of Energy. We've had
several earth moves in the last weeks. They never make the
headlines, they are keeping you from knowing that the tilt has
changed. However the 'cracks' are showing up and miraculously..no
one is ever hurt:) That is because Mom and Dad are doing it.
This "Phasing" has a somewhat 'ghost like' appearance. That is
because what is ghostlike is at a higher vibration and is able to pass
through something at a lower more solid physicality. When everyone
phases, they are all at the same frequency, and this allows them to be
solid to each other. But again, it also means they will be 'ghost like' to
something of a lower vibration rate.
We will be split up (us and the Snakes), is my understanding. We
were never supposed to be locked up with no escape from a
predator species. That species, none of them, can attain the high
vibration Eve's children are moving to. None of Eve's children
will ever be trapped as '3D' again, remember always...you are not
evolving...you were already the highest evolved, a "Light Being",
and you are being returned to that. Just different levels of that
High frequency.

Some people want to continue a similar lifestyle. For instance, a

hunter. How much fun would he have if he didn't have the chase? Like
a dog chasing a rabbit? If the animal just simply laid down in front of
him, without the skill of the hunt, he would have no fun:) So a person
to whom hunting is important might choose for instance, to go to a
reality that still has that lifestyle with all that goes with it. But no one
will be 3d anymore.
So earth is merging right now, very slowly. They have slowed it further,
to ensure that everyone makes it. There were so many devices, etc.
that the snake families used that the subconscious knock was not
being received and understood by many.
The snake families have found a way to alter the subconscious. One
of the more infamous is the GLF Oath. It used words of 'love' to cover
up the one line phrase which states you choose them! Well, the
subconscious is literal. So the subconscious is the only one that can
remove the 'seal' and this is what that oath does. This allows the
snake family to seal that person, and keep them. In fact, when I read
it, I couldn't believe that no one understood the use of the words.
The words are "Spell casting", and this is part of your literal
powers...called the "Power of the spoken word". They want you to
believe these are separate things, and that there is no 'occult' (which
means hidden) and that you have no real powers. First the video tells
you to give the "Call", then it tells you to give your "Oath". This is
called a Pact. It has to do with systems of energy exchange, and to
the subconscious it is Binding. This is how they are stealing Eve's
children now.
Hi fossileyesed, good to be back..how are you. Havent caught up on
the reading of the thread yet:) I'll be at it awhile I see from the amount
of pages!
I'm not sure how correct this is, but it is my understanding that this
kind of parasitic energy life form that is of the snake families, was able

to attach itself to us via the chakra system. Like a worm, it gets in.
What I was told, was that Dad created a new color, for us. A yellow/
gold. And this is unlike any color we currently can see with our eyes,
and completely new within the Creation. This energy color, will not
allow the parasite to reattach to us anymore. We will be impervious to
it.
Dad is showing up as an Energy life form in the color of yellow/
gold..so this is a part of all the changes we are going through.

I can relate to that. I got sleep paralysis too, and had the common
explanation given. It took nearly...what..30? years to figure out that the
doctors were mistaken in their explanations? I heard chanting during
mine. This is the snake family. They 'freeze' your muscles like that, but
you can hear them ..or at least I and it appears you...could. Don't call
jesus (it makes them laugh at you, jesus was theirs) but do call
"Father". He can hear and respond now that he's inside the field as
Energy.
The images you saw, the attackers, were real. Not a dream. You are
getting your 'sight' back...and they are becoming more visible to us
now that the implants are being removed especially. The one that
used the game image...two things come to mind. One is that one of
the ways they have gotten to us is by giving us a game or movie, and
then using the emf wave to carry another signal..theirs. So the image
in the game could be one of the AI programs, which is a
consciousness that they caught and reprogrammed and put into the
vehicle of the game....and the other is their old game of wiping the
memory and putting their images in to cover what ever that being
really is ..cover it up.
Next time you see them, try this. Tell them with your mind or with
words (I couldn't talk when the paralysis was on me..but the words
sound out in the mind and do the same thing--power of the word) "I
am ONE"...and call father..say "In the Name of the Father..I command

you to go away"....envision them in a bubble, surround them, and then

kick the bubble they are in to Saturn. Remember, the source of the
word Magi is Imagination. And this is a literal power you possess.
"Imagine" them caught by allies and removed to saturn.
The bible was a part of the Trick of the snake family collective. They
gave us all 'religions'..rather like giving us all a bad case of 'crabs'
*grin* Dad calls Yahweh a Scab eater...his other names are
"Amon" (Amen in the bible) and "Satan". His real name is ..Enki ..I
believe, was who was playing that part. This is Nibiru, and none of
them are manlike or man looking. Look at the old hierogyphs, they
'say' are a 'mask'.
Like all propaganda techniques, they put truth with lie. Then outed the
lie to discredit the truth with it as well. Remember this was a real war.
What they did was take Eve's children and hold us hostage, basically,
in a type of prison that they had full control over.
You have a Literal Mother and Father. They are Energy Life Forms,
and so are You. The snake families downloaded our consciousness's
into this 'Avatar' called "human". This is a vehicle. Your real vehicle is
called the "Incorruptible Body". That is why there are discrepancies
between the old legends and the bible, etc. They altered and gave us
the wrong definitions to words, among other things, which is what
causes a block within the understanding of those who read about it all.
A "Spirit" is not a ghost or someone dead.

Yes, its like a 'slip'. The best coined name for it is an "Avatar". When
the Avatar sleeps, we as Energy Beings do not. We are able to leave
the vehicle and travel. They taught us to call this dreaming. They
usually do a mind wipe, and supply the 'metaphoric' images to cover
what we were really doing..but their hold is weakening now. This was
an AI program supplying the metaphor images, we called them "Nets".

Some leave the vehicle and go so far, no images are recorded as

memories to the Avatar. So no dreams to review. When I was a kid, I
would 'hunt' fallen baby birds that way. Go look at night, find them, and
when I woke I would go get them:) These were also flying
dreams...but the El would follow us home, and find our avatar. Then
the implants and blocks would start and we would start 'falling' when
we flew. Until we flew no more.
Time has no meaning when you are in that state, you can go back or
forwards. And the other people you talk to ...that is really them, outside
of their vehicle as well. That is the real you, and it is not a ghost or a
dream, it is real.
We are all taking hits right now...the last throes of the end of the snake
families. And this is why many of us have trouble going to bed...we are
tired..know it is time to sleep..but have a subconscious and conscious
resistance to going to bed. You are not alone.
When they discover that your abilities are waking up again, they start
taking you again. Or in other ways, go after you...and this is done at
night, and usually during dream time. They are able to grab our
consciousness and pull it out of the vehicle and do what they want,
when they want. And that is why so many of us DONT want to go to
bed lately. ALOT of people are waking up and getting free now, but
just as many are being actively hunted by them and are routinely
taken and done this way.

When we fight them (the Snakes), really fight, we end up FEEDING

them unintentionally.
Remember.....
Its all Energy and Energy Exchange, at the basic core of this 'reality'
and what a 'human being' is. Energy. With a positive and negative
pole. So the snake families learned to tap that energy and use it.
When they want neg. pole force, they create with their mind control,

situations within the populations to create emotions that were

negative. When they needed the pos. pole...they gave feelings and
thoughts that created that.
So the plan is more a passive resistance now. Dont feed them... if you
can get by with it without losing your life! They are still playing their
games, and they are still using the ptb...watch, listen, be aware, but
don't engage the enemy....and most importantly, don't go after other
humans whether controlled by the snakes or not, this is being used
against the allies by powering up the axis unintentionally.
The phase shift that is about to occur completely requires a positive
mind and emotion. If the snake families manages to keep you
engaged in fighting, fear, etc...neg. pole emotions..then it is possible to
end up in the wrong place during the phases final shift/setting you at a
level that you may not have been intended for. And with people at a
lower vibration than yourself.
newearthman wrote: THE DARK SIDE IS VERY SCARED! THEY ARE
DESPERATE FOR ENERGY!
Oldsoul: I know that you mean this jokingly:) but it reminded me of all
the little twist I caught these last few weeks, like:
Did YOU see that huge hole they dug out on the White House
lawn...and they claim plumbing *grin* LMAO
Most conspiracy watchers all know about the 1966 Map that shows
the "Owl" outline...which I have told you is the race called Moloch and
this is what the Bilderberg/Trilateral/Foreign..etc is...the cult of Moloch
(B C..cult) or "Church" of Satan, as the religious sect picks up that this
is "Liliths" cult....but not that Lilith is Inanna (the sumerian texts led to
that one) of Nibiru. Inanna is the direct line of decent of Tiamatt.
The reason for the 'outline' is that the place was built OVER a
MOLOCH NEST. And because of this there is a Stargate there.

Stargates are real, but not quite like the series:) and these people are
frantic to get there asses off-world anyway they can. They have not
been told, or they do not care, that there is a price if they try to jump
through that gate right now.
Why are they frantic to get off world? Why is there an
'emergency' meeting in Vienna? By the Family of 300? hahaha
THAT has to do with the 'planetoid sized arks' that are now
visible to the telescopes and inbound for Earth. They recently
pulled SETTI completely offline --SETTI complained publicly:)-and commandeered the antenna array....what is currently online
now is not the real McCoy.
I'm not sure whose who when I look up at night anymore. But I do
know that when the split occurs, each 'family' takes their own.

wolebosevobasa wrote:
nyarelathodep wrote:So I have to ask the question, seeing as the
tapestry you weave here is steeped in mesopotamian mythology/
historical accounting, how does Tiamat fit into the cosmological
framework?

I have a question, is there a relation between Hermes-Thoth-Enki? Are

they one and the same? Reading these pages I noticed raphael post
the pictures of a caduceus. I remember reading that Herme's staff/
caduceus was originally two ribbons/strands/coils/duality much like the
red blue coils in oldsoul's video and that it was later transformed to
show the two coiled snakes with the nibiru wings we see in medicine
today and as seen in sumerian tablets. Oldsoul what is the meaning to
the pine cones we keep seeing in every depiction of the sumerian
gods, are they related to this emotional drug you speak of, does it
have to do with the pineal gland. Thanks.

Oldsoul: They have used and reused the pinecone symbol, like the
snake symbol. Think of a civilization that was intent on another
civilization equating everything with the snake:)
The pinecone was indeed the pineal gland originally--which is the
Third Eye. There is a video, of a mummy found on the ..moon?
mars?...cant remember. But she had a device placed on her head...it
closed both eyes AND the third eye...and OPENED the mouth. We are
born 'seers' and we had the power of the 'word'...What the snakes did,
was close off her sitght powers with that device--which is why they
were placed over the eyes...and they were trying to figure out how she
had been shattering people..them..with her voice.
The Oversoul told them they were not allowed to blend the dna with
snake. They gave Dad the finger...and this is what they did. This was
the creation of the Avatar Human. When they did the blending, they
disconnected our 12 strand DNA --stripped it down to two strand---and
they cut off the pineal gland and most of our chakra energies were
then cut off.
This removed our powers, and made us a dwarf race. This is what is
being returned to us, and why so many are posting that they are
'seeing' things... they have never understood that they were always
seers...we were taught this is 'daydreaming' and daydreamers are
beaten into submission via the institutions of schooling..and called
lazy. We then grow up entrained to disregard the images in the
daydream, that they are not real. They are.

fox1gal wrote:
oldsoul wrote:Does anyone else know that they are being 'taken' at
night?
Some of the related symptoms are :
an unwillingness to lay down for bed even though tired, you find
something else to keep 'your mind and hands' busy
Sudden Chills when the room temp is normal, or no fever

unexplained anxiety at night

yes they can be atributed to a host of other things too...but in my case
I know it is the "nurse" class greys.
Anyone else?

Yes to all of the above, I suspected at some point that i was too taken
but who the heck would believe me? In the dreams I remember many
a times hearing she is wake and I get away and the chase ...Then the
slamming back into the body and feeling terribly .ill and nothing
around me feeling real. and Feeling wipe out for the next few days....
wolebosevobasa wrote:So I was there, paralyzed looking at the
ceiling, enjoying the moment when all of a sudden I saw these thin
black shadowy figures close in around me, no shapes, no fancy greys,
no little green men, just shadows. There were enough to surround me
in my bed. Remember the ringing noise and audible chants, noises,
words we talked about? I heard them briefly as I started panicking,
terrified in my inability to do anything. After a major struggle I broke
free of the paralysis. The ringing noise was there and loud and I had
no choice but tell myself I just dreamt this stuff.

This too!! and the well its just dream!! The ringing noises that loud
sounding rushing ikcy yuckky sound...When it got to the point I just
could not take it, and my kids were young at the time and then my
daughter started to complain..If we even dare share this with anyone
then gosh we both be put in the nut house.... I had to figure out why I
was having the dreams and so was she...I am grateful those that have
cross my path and suggest this or do this, they just seem to appear
just at the right time...I didn't want to go all public with what I knew at
time I had my kids to think about.That was you could call my wake up
call!! That is when my daughter and I both had one of our cats that
would sleep with us, that some how help... As the years past we figure
out how to cope with it, and many times I got over the fear and just

went with it that is when I started to wake up during these times and I
hear she is awake ...The chase and the throwing back in the body
thing then being ill , and the totally wipe out for the next few days...As
time when by I was able even get past that and return with ease how I
have not sure how I figure it out Wiping of the memory is what really
sucks.....My curiosity has always been stronger then my fear, that to
me what has help be trying to figure this all out...Not that it has not
give me good kick in the the you know what a time or two..Also during
these time, just side note electrical appliances and light bulbs take a
beating....All the way to the breaker box. If you could hear the
conversation with the electricians....Like how the heck?? I am like I
have not clue you are the electrician...Know somewhere along the line
I had something to do with it...Humor is good way of dealing with this,
glad I have not lost that along the way...
Well still in just the watch on the flood thing but they are still calling for
flooding rain here, but no rain yet...
Thanks again everyone!!
Oldsoul: Yep, thats the snakes. They have taken everyone on the
planet, even the kids. Sadly enough, I traced it back to what is
commonly referred to as prehistoric times. We have been given a
false past by these people....down to the archaeology of dinosaurs.
They showed up waaaay before 1 BC, and the current history line.
They showed up before the 'biblical' flood, Mu, Lemuria, Atlantis and
now...they have been here millenia.
The electrical is the higher frequency they carried. That is
incompatible with electronics, and now that people are getting free of
the implants they are starting to affect the electronics too.
The cats really are the guardians of the 'dead' which is again, an
inaccurate definition has been given for that word---they are not dead,
but in another reality. Cats are able to walk in both realities and they
protect us from the owl as best they can. In the 'astral' *another mis-

defined word* they are as large as a small pony. They can see the
snake families, while our eyes have been altered.
I hear alot of people are seeing the breakdown of the barrier. And
when I just checked I was told no, that Lilith and some of the El
renegades had been 'fishing' for us. I am also told that the last of them
are routed.
What they had initially said was that 'all life' ...all of Eve's
children...trees, pets, all of it and us ...would be 'pulled' out of this
Avatar. That we 'went wild' with the first freedom we had had in
centuries. Remember, we are Energy based Life forms originally. The
plan was that we would move through the Net, there is an Exit now,
and then we would return to our original avatar..the incorruptible body.
And this is a physical plane of existence...and the real earth.
Earth has been healed..the one above us now...But it is still Earth. The
money systems are or will be removed and we'll return to the barter
system. It has no Net so we should be able to see the Stellar bodies
without a problem, no more hologram hiding them. And the color of the
sky is golden yellow. So I'm not sure about how much will happen this
way...or whether everyone will experience the change that way. I do
know for sure that the shell of this earth will be destroyed afterward.
And the plan is that only the snakes will be left on the empty shell.
Earth is alive, and so is everything else, and it will have moved out of
the shell of matter that Tiamatt created. Its hard to conceive how
things work without Matter. But apparently it was always ment to be
created with photonic light slowed to solidity....thats why we feel so
heavy and why things are so 'painful' here.

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bleever wrote: Oldsoul..thanks for checking in, yes, i am hanging in
there! i am feeling something...sometimes at night i look up at the sky
and even though i am admittedly confused...i feel something...my eyes
are more sensitive than ever...still seeing more and more of those
little, sperm like glowing things in my eyes...
It is interesting you mentioned the hole on the white house lawn...i
mean its right in our faces..and yet the lie is such a joke...
Yes, there are some credible people coming forward about these
planet sized ships cruising towards us...i am confused but i reside in
love...its the only thing i know...
Let this show begin...oh and btw, for the family 300 and the powers
that be...you're about to be fd up...

Oldsoul: Those 'spots' plagued me the other day:) I tried my old trick
of 'slowing' down, to see them clearly again.
Yes, that code is amazing when it comes through. Especially when
you get 3D rotating images in color...Has anyone else seen that? And
the people...sometimes the 'daydream' objects are people showing
up....but they look solid, with color, and in a 3 dimension image not a
'photo' image which is more flat screen type.
There is a vid out...someone should (or maybe already has) posted it
on the "Giza" thread...its called the "Geomatrix." An engineer
recognized the Giza symbols as a 'planetary shield' and wrote this
program that gave a mapped location of all the
stargates...everywhere, and I mean everywhere as in your own back

yards. He invites you to copy the map and go look in your

neighborhood for the stargate. Problem is the solar event he is worried
about isn't going to occur as it had in the past..it was Lilith, heating up
the flares...Now it will be the ancients saying"Intelligent Light" no heat.
So Turning on a shield would not be good.
A few days later after the vid, the story of the dig in the White House
front lawn showed up...I thought it humorous. Unfortunately the gates
are shut on the destination side. And anyone attempting to go through
will end up trapped in that energy grid...called the Net. Alive, but
disincarnate...and trapped.
I forgot to mention, he talked about those people that went in and dug
up the Giza...found objects, and an Entity guarding the area. 6 men
were reported having died. And when his team got to close to the
emitter, the shield emitter buried underground, they became sick. This
is similar to radiation sickness, and this is the effect of the High
Frequency. They also came to the conclusion that the legends were
true, only someone with those high frequency vibes themselves, can
enter the area. Same for the emitter array.
Newearthman wrote: Cool...thats a good explanation for the curse. I
have been following the hidden excavations by the Sphynx with
Project Camelot so I have an idea of what youre talking about.
Oldsoul: Yes, this was on the Camelot project film, and the interviewer,
a woman...mentions they did a remote view of the subject and found it
to be Thoth. Well, even she thinks its a 'mask' but she showed the
correct imagehieroglyph of Thoth. Thoth was a member of the Bird
Tribes, and I wonder if his racial name might be Ibis....but they look
like a Hummingbird species which is also on the Nazca plains images.
So I wonder...he is not on our side of the War...no telling now what will
happen to him. Or I take that back, I do know what will happen, and it
isn't pleasant.

For anyone who doubts that these things, and the 'energy'
exchange systems are real, there is a simple way to test for
yourself.
Sit quietly, clear your mind, be relaxed....and look at one hand.
Keep your eyes on it, ok to blink:), but look at the center of the
palm. See it clearly, memorize the image.
Now...continue sitting...(read this first *grin*) and close your
eyes. And see the palm of your hand, and 'feel' it at the same
time. Focus your mind and create the image of a glowing ball of
light soft, glowing gold or yellow colored, then pull the ball of
light through the palm, make it go around to the front of the hand
*in your mind*, and pull it through again. Like threading a needle.
As you do this you will notice the spot on your hand heats up. It
can in fact get uncomfortably hot:)
This is the power that they don't want you to know about or
understand. You have the power in your mind to affect the Energy
within this system we call reality. You have the power to create and
destroy and with the 'focus' of the Golden Silence that power is made
more physical.
Has anyone here tried to look at those incoming objects? The reports
and vids I've seen show them coming around the back of the Gas
giants...heading this way. Lol, I was promised a telescope for
Christmas this year, which made me burst out laughing...I've waited
three years using binoculars to see the ships--they were so close. I
told them, why bother, by that time we could probably see them with
the naked eye they'd be so close! hahaha
Still if there are any amateur astronomers out there, it would be nice to
know if they can see them from their vantage point as well.

newearthman wrote:
What do you know about the mass ufo sightings in New York and
around the World on Oct 13th?
Oldsoul: I haven't heard about an event like that..at least not recently.
Part of the GFL's game *along with the other members of the
collective* was to say they were going to show up in person.
I'm not quite sure how the law is applied, but I do know that there
is a Law that states we may only have contact via the
subconscious. Whether that was part of the rules of engagement
for the war, or whether this is a law that was only applied during
the War...and now the War is over and this changes. I don't know.
I think this is why there really hasn't been a mass landing. I know
that we are surrounded by Allies, but we have been surrounded
by both sides for a long time now.
So I'm not quite sure who is showing up where anymore, or whether
the Snake Families are going to land to collect their family members or
not. Although I know that they do collect their own people, as part of
the split.
What do you know about it? Have you heard or read anymore? When
was that posted?
Heinousone wrote: I was thinking of asking you the same question
myself but I am of the belief that these darker beings may be given a
chance to peacefully leave so we do not end up with some serious shit
go down and that in going they may be given a chance to take those
with them that voluntarily do so? So they dazzle us with lights in the
sky and then come down and make contact telling us some story?
Oldsoul: I'm wondering the same thing. I know that Lilith and others of
the Snake family collective were worried what would happen when we
regained our memories and powers. Very, very worried. Dad says no

more fighting though, and no retaliation will be allowed. We are to be

separated, all of us, and all of Man goes UP in vibration...they will not
be allowed to return anyone to the 7.8 mentality.
You see, in the real Creation, Man is a higher species than Snake.
We are 'gods' in that way, and to them this was unforgivable.
They are hierarchal in mind, and because they were an older
species, Set and Tiamatt were infuriated that Man would rule
them.
So maybe the rumor about November, and the Spring, are correct. We
won't know for sure, alot is going into this so as not to traumatize the
populations. Its like the concept of the Hitler Youth. How would you
explain to them, had it continued for generations, that they had been
slaves, and that their 'hero's' and 'gods' were the evil force that did
such a thing to them knowingly?
Yes, they have broken the 'Law' for millennia here!
Hopefully this will change too, as they remove their family members
(rothschild, rockefeller, kissinger, and all the family of 300)
But I think that the snakes of the family of 300, might just be whom is
being sent to the pit. Even Rothschild knew that these things would
have that punishment...he even spoke of it during a Bilderberg meet.
But still he went on to do them, knowing that he was deliberately killing
children and others, nothing stopped his madness for power and
greed.
Heinousone wrote: So one then could expect them to go forward with
a possible plan to show themselves as our wonderful protectors when
then show up in their flashy technology that they have had for years.
Mars isn't as red as people want to believe. Perhaps they think they
can just escape there. I don't know, who knows what they have
planned. I highly doubt they are going to just step down without a fight.
If they know they are going to lose it all then they are going to try and
take down as much as they can after all they think it's all "theirs".

Oldsoul: I think that is what all the hype with ..what was her
name..Goodchild? was about. They did want to step in and announce
their 'Jesus' has returned...they had the whole thing planned out.
Good thing some of the allies ended that one. They have bases on
Mars, but they wont be able to escape there. Those have been
retaken now. In fact all of it is over, except the ones still on the planet.
They used to create cataclysm's, like the 'great flood', or the 'meteor'
strikes, or the 'CME's' from the Sun.....to wipe out the planet every
time there was a threat of being exposed or overtaken. And the more
recent "Jupiter" ignition...Those cataclysms wont happen now,
because the Allies are in the position to stop them now.
This is why CERN was stopped as well, it doesn't do what those
scientist's think it does. Neither does HAARP.
But it does appear that they know that they cant do it...they've
been trying for months to set the sun off. Thats why all those
ships were seen around the sun. It failed, and Inanna was caught.
And it looks like the PTB plan to bug out. They are all making
'arrangements'. The meeting in Vienna, and now these oddities. The
queen has cancelled the Christmas party under the excuse of
'economics' which I think is really funny...they caused the economic
crisis with her royal proxy, Sir Rothschild.
The White house under the direction of the CIA/Bilderberg Cult of
Moloch (Liliths) is hunting for the stargate that the moloch had under
the white house area. The White House was built over their
underground nest...
I had heard that dad was going to approach us, and explain all of it,
the lies and deception, and was actually going to apologize and say it
was his fault. I don't really agree with that sentiment, but that is what I
heard. He feels responsible for the harm done to us for so long.

2020vision wrote:
Laurance Rockefeller and Hilary Clinton.
In these famous pictures of Hillary and Rockefeller walking on a
wooded path, Hilary is holding a book. For years researchers have
been trying to figure out which book she is holding, to find out if it
would provide clues as to the nature of their conversation.

Whats the book she is holding?

I am not trying to derail this fantastic thread only adding some content
that may be relevant.
Oldsoul: No, youre not derailing the thread. I find it quite interesting :)
thank you!

BTW, does anyone else notice the 'family' resemblance in their faces?
R and H? Rockefeller knows of the Anunnaki...he's a hybrid himself.
Hillary on the other hand is not the same type...she's not the 'pure'
blood of the lines, so she isn't as informed. Fifty bucks says he's
giving her the 'sumerian' line about 'heroes' and all that. While at the
same time not informing her of the truth of his own status, or who the
Wiccan goat god is...
I probably shouldn't feel sorry for her, knowing she has killed and
committed so many crimes. But the truth is she isn't aware that she is
being taken, and I know that for a fact. Rockefeller is literally feeding
her and Bill to Enki and the snake families. She doesn't know that
when she gives the 'call' that they actually show up...immediately. Nor
does she remember being raped. They wiped her mind and implanted
her.
However, more than one person has remote viewed the rape and
other atrocities that were done to her and Bill. While Rockefeller is
actually paid for delivering them up as a meal...on a platter..basically.
Its the implants, year after year, that lead the minds of most of the
population into these behaviors, so blood or not I have to say that this
is what happened to them as well.
Lowsix wrote: you have an absolutely astounding imagination.
i do hope you have this all gathered up in one place..in an organized
manner.
Find a funky illustrator and self publish..
Amazon has even picked up self publishing fiction writers from time to
time.
Mythologies and fictions work great when the backstory is worked out
like yours...

and i have no doubt elements of what you've picked up from the

zeitgeist (not the movie), the 'meme cloud' as it were...will most
certainly find their way into the next myth, as similar themes have
been floating around for a while.
But dont get caught in the trap of thinking this 'is the way that it is"
though...
because then youll miss the power and importance of the symbolism
youve used,
and begin to substitute it for a historical or even true story...
Same goes for anyone reading it
Archetypes and Aethyrtypes are more powerful than the words they
are described with, and as long as you recognize that you are telling a
myth born of reasonably accurate symbols and not bringing a
'mechanical' blueprint of how it really is, you wont get swept up in your
own story...and youll be able to continue telling it...letting it write itself.
But you and many others have fundamentally misunderstood
the importance and context of snakes in mythologies...
and how it appeared, and what it means.
The snake is representative of a process, not of a 'race' or typology, or
mindset.
And you are dead wrong about Jesus belonging to anyone..
or that hes laughed at in the ether...totally wrong.
But best of luck wherever you are headed with your wonderfully weird
story..
Everyone seems to still be enjoying it...as long as they see it for what
it is.

Oldsoul:
lowsix
Yes, I know that you think this all relates to the cosmic archetypes.
However the way things work is to descend into the physical reality.
And in the physical, and on the levels all the way to the base level of
heaven, the Snake family Collective exists.
Again, you have to understand the longevity of the race called Nibiru.
900 years of their lifespan, at 3650 per year of our timespan, is
3,258,000 years. This has been going on for a long time. It predates
the 'BC' records and the archaeological records we have. Think "Nazi"
and then stand back and take another look. Everything, and I do mean
everything, here, has been altered to their specifics of brainwashing
and renaming things. The snake worship was not worship - it was
forced programming, led by cults that gained power in return from the
Snake family collective.
As far as Jesus is concerned...I was so very disappointed as well. But
there is an interesting Video, called the 'Bloodline of the Illuminati' that
goes to Cleopatra's son, whom she made "King of Kings" and this is
who 'Jesus/Issa' is. He was a member of the royal hybrid line, and
following the law of the seed of Nibiru, he married his half sister
Selene...who was renamed "Magda" Most high "Lene'. (a/k/a
Magdalene)
The Reptilians know this and always laugh at the people in the astral
who called on him to help them against the attackers. Even Jesus
once mentioned that 'his named' would be used to deceive people. He
was of the order Melchizedek, which is of the Collective. They owned
this area of space. The same as the Freemasons and Kabbala, which
is why he is seen using the 2 finger 'horned hand' sign. Which is
Nibiru.
You really could not get real answers until more recently. They owned
the territory and no one could get in and keep from the mind wipe, and

tell people. All we have seen in millenia, is the Collective, never Father
or the Allies...until recently.
You also have the law stating only contact with the subconscious.
Only the snakes cheat, I really havent seen or heard of anyone
having physical contact with the real allied forces. Only those cells of
the Collective that were posing as the Allies.
We will be told the truth when we breach the Plane. We are in that
slow process now.
I can totally understand how weird this all sounds. And so contrary to
all we've been taught...for centuries. It is partly the Nets fault that our
minds wont accept it...they use a type of mind control, and that is
simply the facts. I know that not everyone has come to these
conclusions, because most are untaught about the subconscious
knock and fail to consciously realize what is happening and why.
However, all have been contacted. Everyone. And of course part of
the problem is that they don't want their belief systems overturned. It
is traumatizing.
You must always remember ...truth is stranger than fiction.

2020vision wrote:
Boxed and replaced by a collective obedience mindset.
Oldsoul: Thats just the thing. It is the implants and the reptile
brain...neither were originating from man, both are the snake
sabotage. A game they play with us. Sad. But that is the problem with
the Reptiles...we call it here, "Sociopathic behaviors". The express
inability to care for anything more than themselves. No empathy.
*** The Collective used layer after layer of mind control on us.
From the societies that they established with "kings" and rulers.
To the Religions, cults....to methods of 'enlightenment' of raising

the Kundalini fire, and meditation. "God is Within" This is all

based on inaccurate definitions given of terms, and the
systematic removal of the real history of our race. ***
*** Then you add in the Nets influence, and this type of "Smith"
program that influences the minds of people....An unbelievable
amount of technological and mind control on the populations. ***
The subconscious knock has been used for some time. No one
could get in, so they sent the knock to give information. Then the
age of the television arrived...and they had a new medium. The
snake families sought to control it...as usual. And this is why you
hear of so much organized crime within its ranks, and so many
actors who fall to their games.
You have to remember all they saw was another Human Being, It
never occurred to them they were up against a Smith or Net AI. This
worked into their lives, and they had no defense. They give the illusion
of fame and fortune, but those people pay a price, in fact we all do
with or without compensation!
With the advent of TV the writers began to channel, unconsciously, all
that information that they were being given via the subconscious
knock into creative Films. There is a reason that "Seeing is Believing",
90% of your brain is devoted to optics.
These were Concepts we had never had before. If you look at the
movies in the past you will recognize that the ones that became
'classics' are the ones that introduced a totally new concept. Like Star
Wars, or the Matrix....or Avatar.
They are trying to break through your programming to give you
the concept that the definition for a "Human Being" is not what
you were told. That there was a War, with Large Scale
Civilizations---an entire Galaxy. That "The Creation" is not what
you were taught it was, it is more like a computer program you

download into, and it is a hologram and you CAN control the

Code! Things we never thought about at 7.8 mhz levels.
The war is over and everyone gets the 'blue pill' ...everyone will
be disconnected from the reality the snake family has hijacked us
to...to realities where they can exist, the way that their free will
dictates, without the mind control and influence of the Warlike
Collective.
Not all snakes -- or all of the reptile branches --- were involved. Just
one small branch of the main branch, whichof course...is a vast
number any way you look at it.
This "Matrix Code" is what people are seeing when they see the
Geometry patterns. Now, if you've read any of this thread, you will
notice more and more people mention they are starting to see
glimpses to long term sight, of these same geometric symbols. This is
the Sacred Geometry "code" and the source of the archetype
symbols.
Yes, on the upper level this also contains a Consciousness, which is a
Person --- someone sentient whom we call an archetype, in other
words. But it is also translated DOWN into the physical, through each
and every level as a Geometric "String" which the Force travels
through like electricity to wiring. And this string is accessible and
controllable by the energy of thought.
Unlike "Avatar" *grin* we don't have those 'tail' things to hook up, we
have the pineal gland which is also called the Third Eye and a major
part of our powers. This was cut off by breaking the genetic code, and
that is what is being restored and why so many are starting to see
again.
By use of the Focus during the Golden Silence, tapping all the
chakras, ductless gland systems, we tap into the primal Creator Force
like a plug. Our Avatar is built to match our Spirit which is the species

Man, and this is why we are Co-creators and why we were such a
great energy source for the Reptile Families.
By cutting off the DNA, that energy had no outlet. This Avatar 'bottles'
the energy, and they were able to tap it. This is what David Icke
noticed as "Loosh" but I'm not sure he knows that this is also used to
power their weapons systems used against the populations. Thats
why the families 300, the queens new coin... always mention "power
we do not know we possess.." and why so many think..missing
money..missing freedoms...?
They are unaware that their true nature is that of an Energy Life form.
And they do not know they are the co-creator species, or that this
means they are directly, via their spirit, tied to the Creator Force and
able to draw on it with their minds via the HEART.

Lowsix,
Well that gives me a better understanding to your writings:) thanks.
So Soul trapping...yes, that esoteric thought has been here a long
time.
You see they never could quite 'erase' everything. And we would get
bleed-throughs of the correct information, and then they would alter it.
Usually by altering the definition of the word itself.
For instance it never once occurred...anywhere I read...that the
"Incorruptible Body" was a physical body. Nor did I associate it
with those footprints on the Brazos or the legends that humans
lived to be hundreds of years old, let alone the legends of people
flying. Did you?
Yet this is the real Avatar meant for Man, that was stripped down,
and genetically spliced with the Snake families to create the
Human Avatar. They called us "Mutts", and "Ants" (Coven (of the)

ant) Snakes like word games, and they played it all the way through
this game.
The mind control devices included control of 'doubt'. The program is
written to pick up the thought you have, and if you are waking up, it
hits an alarm which signals a response to the program to send a
thought of doubt. There are also Species within the Collective, who's
specific talent was a subtle form of 'doubt' via the use of telepathy and
the fact that you could no longer see them standing next to you and
doing this. Our eyes have been altered to see less in the light
spectrum.
You know, I read some of the Reverse Speech, by Peggy Kane. And I
have to laugh now that I get the joke. There was always this phrase
that popped up "pats his horse", or something similar..."horse". And
this was the Spirit -- you.... patting the Avatar, which is like a horse our
energy lifeforms are riding around on:) Rather funny by that
perspective, don't you think?
People get stuck on who's who by DNA, but the DNA is not always the
clue. The Clue is the Spirit. As an Energy Life form the Spirit is a Light
Being. You are not 'evolving' you are returning to what was taken from
you during a War.
The Energy Life form, a Light Being, is both particle and wave. This
translates to the physical as a crystalline structure, and the
subsequent result is the encoded instructions we call DNA. Normally.
*** There are hundreds of species of Galactic Man within this
Galaxy alone. We range from 9 to 15 feet tall, and this is not just
tall there is more than 50% of body mass missing with the human
avatar. They made us a dwarf species, and less powerful
physically the better to control us. ***
No matter, Dad loves his 'mutts' anyway :) We may have been as
a species considered 'mutts' but its the mutts who won this War.

Now the reward is the repairing of the DNA. The Snake family
didn't manage to destroy the crystalline code at the heart of it,
and it is being rebuilt.
No, we're not going to suddenly grow to nine feet as a species
(overnight:) but we will be free and we will be a greater people
because our minds will be free of their mechanisms that kept our
consciousness low, and we'll be at peace finally. The influences that
drove the wars on earth will no longer be with us.
wolebosevobasa wrote:
Utilizing Oldsouls' story, I always wanted to understand why there was
a war in heaven in the first place but never found it relevant to
articulate the question, her story made sense to many and I think I
understood most if not all of it, unless of course you subscribe to the
school of thought that life is just a cosmic accident. I wonder (in
reference to oldsoul's galactic war) if conflict is a universal mechanic
to jumpstart creation when too much universal hippy peace halts all
manner of motion and evolution within it.
Oldsoul, In a stagnant universe does the consequential lack of
purpose not signify serious trouble for its existence? Is this why
polarity in the sense of Good vs Evil, RIght vs Wrong exists? you said
there's right and wrong, i don't think you said polarity existed but I'll
just use the words because well everything in the universe seems to
be in pairs . Is polarity then inherent in traits of the divine parents or is
it a result of free will and (drums roll....) a result of choice?
Is "evil" in the biblical sense only innate in the reptile branch that the
divine couple birthed or is it intrinsic in all of us but grew out of control
during the war? It is difficult to grasp the entire concept of war in
heaven that you said was a "do or die thing" and not question the
nature of free will, and how it ties to our past or future roles as cocreators as your premise portrays us to be. It would seem there wasn't

really much of a choice and a division had to be formed to play the

game of war right?
I always pondered if mankind's greatest downfall was due to our
relinquishing our responsibility to "god" for all things that we screw up.
You see this is the point where the lines blur for me and it's hard to
wisely pin point the source of the problem (blame) or who really is at
fault for this over-prolonged cosmic struggle you describe and
because the father did not foresee this happening it creates a slew of
paradoxes to our preconceived idea of creators' omnipotence. Asabove-so-below?
Unless it is all really a staged game we simply have to play, then one
can't help but wonder if Our divine parents made a mistake or if the
mistake is an inherent YET necessary flaw in the Law of One. Free
will. Choice. Your story suggests the snakes as co-creators having
free will "created" things never before seen in the universe that you
said took time for the allies to figure out (I.e. Tiamat's matter prison
etc).
You mentioned that father had a hard time getting to us here in the
lower realm because of the nets and other things which you
suggested were a result of the war "getting out of control" if that's
indeed what happened.
My point oldsoul is not to question the One's love for us or his ancient
and wise intent, I just wanna understand him a little better. I'm just
trying to see how all this acquired experience affects our future as cocreators in your storyline. You mentioned that our minds were being
detached/cleansed from all the negative experiences we endured so
we wouldn't hold grudges and so none of the old came up with us
when we made the jump and I think you hinted that the "veil" may not
drop for us at first, or maybe not at all and that it was for our own good
(I do not remember being asked :) but I suppose I understand ).

Although I probably lack the wisdom to compassionately understand

what is good for the whole of us, I personally would like to remember
all that has happened so that I could understand the big WHY.
Assuming we are to become co-creators, then it seems logical to
retain experience and wisdom to "create" stuff that's in harmony with
the one and at least be conscious of the things that would lead the
universe back to darkness so as to avoid it, to avoid ending up in the
saturnian prison? Or is this mentality unwise and in contradiction to
the complex nature of free will and its function as a fuel for the
universe's motion?
I see that you mentioned he made a law, that none of the old should
come with up when the jump was made and it sounds lovely, but then
what does the universe collectively get from all this conflict once we're
all back under the peaceful bliss happy pill? and if we don't get an
upgrade in our understanding skills as a result of all this conflict then
will "divine couple" prevent future power struggles by limiting our
accumulated knowledge?
The amazing video you made on free flight made me think that maybe
we'll have to re-rediscover many things and I thank you for posting it,
discovery is fun. But what I'm getting at Oldsoul is it seems as if
choice/free will created the problem. Can we have choice/free will
without the possibility of this recurring? Do we retain our individual will
if "the good guys" are giving us the happy pill. This reminds of series V
where the reptile queen gives her subjects the "bliss" to keep them
happy, ignorant and loyal.
See I'm all for peace and joy and specially wellbeing for all right now,
cancer really really really sucks and I'm all for the idea of people not
having to endure these things anymore. But I'm just trying to see three
steps ahead :) I'm trying to find out if our knowledge will be
deliberately limited yet again as a workaround for the evident
problems that arise from choice. Hypothetically speaking If infinity
works as a cycle beginning-end-rebirth-beginning-end (Orouboros)

then will war happen again inevitably when we reacquire all

knowledge?
Will the divine parents create limitations so we never go down the path
of darkness, a good guy's veil for lack of a better term? Or is it simply
law of the universe that whatever happens has to be allowed to
happen because it is free will that drives all things and thus choice
may inescapably put us back in this position a trillion years from now.
My apologies if my questions make no sense, I will not mind if you tell
me so, however I will appreciate your input, corrections, clarifications,
your alchemy ;) .
Oldsoul: wolebosevobasa
I don't have the veil completely lifted either at this point. There
are others more free than I it is true. So there are things, that like
you I question.
The only real surety I have is what has personally happened to me,
and others, that I have witnessed. The concept of evil, well, I'm not so
sure that was the original concept of duality. Duality at the heart of it,
had to do with recombining and creating something new. Such as in
pro-creation. I came across a definition once, that I really haven't
found any concept that overcame the logic of it. It states that evil is
parasitic in nature, and requires good as a victim to sustain itself, and
cannot exist without good.
While good is not parasitic, it does not require evil to sustain itself, and
can live without evil. I don't think that we had real evil, I think there
might have been 'mistakes' allowed...to learn from or to provoke
another reaction within the Creation. So the question remains elusive
to me as of yet, and that is the best and most valid definition I can
gain. I have to keep reminding myself, we have to redefine these
words, they gave us the wrong definitions to lead us to erroneous
conclusions.

I was told that everyone goes Up, in vibration...no more '3rd

order' for Man, we were never this low in vibration. We had
empowered knowledge, and this is what the El removed, along
with the altering of the pineal gland. These were to be returned.
But then there came the information, that because this group had
been capturing life forms, consciousness units of different levels of
consciousness, that they had put them into the human avatar to create
larger herds. Remember they were harvesting the 'meat' and putting
the consciousness back into cloned bodies...most reptile species
require live prey.
So that we actually do have many different levels of consciousness on
the planet right now. And this is the split that will occur, each to their
own range of vibration...like to like, basically. Which is why there will
be no more war, everyone will be within a sympathy of the person next
to them, an understanding of how they feel about a thing, because
they are of a like mind themselves.
None are what you call 'lower' consciousness units, with the
exception of the Snake families and their hybrid lines. The 'Law of
the Seed' of Nibiru assured that they would continue to deliberately
foster that lower vibrational frequency via the DNA and incest laws of
the eugenics applied. Love is the Highest vibration, and they
simply dont have it, and cant get there by their control issues to
be 'rulers' and their greed to corner all markets and keep slaves.
Remember, I'm talking about the reptiles, not the humans
implanted. I was told that the implanted humans, even the
pedophiles, were to be forgiven by father. It is not considered
their fault, that is simply the sick sense of fun this group had,
playing with the human mind and making people kill or kill
themselves.
At the same time, it was hinted, that we were to be 'erased' as well. I
was upset about that. Like you I feel that enough is enough...to erase
the memory is to say it never happened and it did. I would rather keep

my memories, even the rapes, rather than lose my identity and past
AGAIN.
But the reply came back, what about trauma? You see the 'veil' ...the
last of it...is removed as the shift in vibration occurs. And if they
remember the horror, all at one time, during that transformation
the fear, terror, all that will lower their vibration and they end up
in the wrong level.
Normally there arent that kind of memories, overwhelmingly bad
memories, released at that time. That only happened here. I think
dad's making a command decision based on the vantage point of
seeing much further than we can at our present limitations. When I
asked more detail, I got that we could view it on the screen-- not
as a memory -- and thereby keep the emotional detachment, but
even that was truly horrific to watch, so we'll have to see.
I was told at one point that dad was young, and made mistakes.
And what the snake family did was give us the concept of an allpowerful all-knowing being, and named it 'god'. We had never
called him god, nor even had that concept...and its an erroneous
concept.
There must be mistakes to learn from and personality flaws for love to
overcome, within the Creation. Father was not dictatorial and really did
create and then let the species grow up, and they usually did that just
fine. The war started early in the existence. And it had to do with
Jealousy, but as we've discussed that was the expression of all of
these things on a lower level.
We've often heard of a 'council' but the truth is the council wasn't
really created till recently. Then you have the snake family that
recreated that hierarchy with themselves playing the roles as
council...Lucifer and Michael. Remember time is linear, and a
construct. The snake families have always had that advantage over

us, here. What Father apparently did was loop time, and show up
earlier within the Creation.
I think that we have to accept that our Father is a person, and as a
person, made a mistake. What that mistake really is I don't really
know, although I told you what I heard and was told. I think that we
have to understand that the races we were told are our friends, gods,
and etc. are in fact this predator species, and that they are still trying
to steal Eve's children...until their last hour here. I do know that Dad
told everyone this will never happen again--this war-- and this was
from a vantage point of seeing the beginning and the end...infinity.

Oldsoul: One of the first groups I found out about, after the 'UFO'
and Grey's, was the group that David Icke calls the Reptilians.
And these I had known as the Sumerian speaking Moloch, which
had several races included within the Owl, Bird Tribe. It was later
in my life when I learned that Lilith was Inanna.
I would see people call to Jesus for help from them (astral), and they
would Laugh. And it was a while before I learned all of it, but the in the
end, the reason they were laughing is because Jesus was another
name (remember the name game) for Caesarian. http://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeAGHB99Rpg Cleopatra's son didn't
die, but he did become "Jesus".
You have to remember the first time the term king of kings was
used was when Cleopatra declared herself Isis reborn, and her
son Caesarian King of Kings. He was of the Hybrid Line of Amon,
which is why the Queen had that Marshall guy 'announce' himself by a
"Notice". Now to take it further, Amons other names are Yahweh and
Satan. Enki used allot of names here. Always remember, a person
from Nibiru, had a 900 year *their year* lifespan which is
3,285,000 years of our time. This is very hard for people to grasp,
it is so unbelievable to them.

I also learned of another trick. I dont know that it still works, I was
rather embarrassed that I had tried it out myself to figure out what it
was about. And I did. The trick is: Focus your eyes on your target, it
isnt necessary for them to notice you, but keep your eyes on the
person. Using deep breathing, (circular breathing techniques) take 3
breaths, and as you expel the 3rd breath, say Yah-weh slowly.
Watching the person, continue to do this
I can tell you, that I watched that man come slowly completely unglued
by the time the 3rd round was done. And those who told me this trick,
said that the snake inside morphs, and you could see things like the
tail moving beneath the clothes, the eyes bug out and morph. I felt
downright mean afterwards, wont do that again. But, I did figure it out.
We are a Hu-Man Avatar, and that was putting the fear of Satan to the
Snake portion, and it would freak out. It knows who Yahweh is, and it
scares it, visibly. In fact most of the snakes stop completely or freak, if
you call on their master, Yahweh And any associated with that
Family also can hold the snake a bit. But this is not a good thing:) to
call on a Snake, especially now.
We are sending all the Snake Family, to another place. Not bad, we
are just being split up so that there is no war for either of us. That is
the Hybrid lines, and the hidden ones who are still here. The Snake
that we are carrying within this Avatar will be removed, so that it
causes no problems for us anymore. That is the source of
selfishness, the Reptile Brain. How they are really accomplishing
this, I dont know. But I have had confirmations that some of our
population no longer has the reptile brain. I doubt youll hear that on
the news though! But it does make a difference in the behavior of a
person, it was always meant as a hidden saboteur.
You also have the fact that these people had the ability to forcibly
take over other 'Avatar' Bodies, via an Energy transfer of their
Consciousness. This is a Highly Advanced Race, and they used
their Wizard of Oz tricks on us here, for eons. Causing people to

'become 'possessed'...well...they were! "Possessed" and that is what

an Energy Consciousness transfer, the abrupt seizure of another
Beings Avatar is like. Hearing voices in their heads, even now our
technology allows this.
In Japan they put up a billboard with and advertisement that broadcast
to the people driving on the freeway within their heads. This startled
people so badly there were accidents, so they removed the billboard.
They created Religious experiences, being In the Spirit,
Meditation, Kundalini, all of these things to misdirect. And since
they all say go inward, I wonder if the misdirection is that we are not
looking UP. as Above
I know that some small phrases bleed through, and have been kept by
us. I know that as an Energy Being, our Father is able to be within us,
and surrounding us and this is what has been missing till very recently.
But could our sight be what we should be using to see Up with?
Pondering these things:) It is my understanding that the earth rotated
in the opposite direction. And it is just like the snake to have pointed to
the Sunrise, and tell us that is East for our burials. I had been
thinking of the Indian burial rights, and found so much from Yahweh
in their current writings. But over and over again, they use
misdirection games.
Jesus was mentioned, because Jesus was brought up. Nothing more
sinister. Read above it, and you'll find what I was replying to.
He was part of the methodology of this groups propaganda machine
of religions. I find that sad. But this group managed to get an entire
planet to 'worship' him, while keeping his identity a secret. And kept
our races in such a state of brain washing, that they would scoff at the
idea, rather than read or listen to any evidence that was contrary to
their books.the Bible, Torah, Buddha, etc.

It was interesting because they managed first to separate our

knowledge of who our Father was, and give us this 'god' concept of
another.Amon/Yahweh. And then gave us his offspring as our
'savior' of the time. Teaching us this was the son of 'god', while
removing the real sons' of the Father from history.
It was also a demonstration of how long this has been going on. Far
longer than current history says life was here, and as the guy said, the
plan was to sweep us under the carpet as well and tell the surviving
handpicked next herd, that we were nothing but neanderthals as well.
Did any of the naysayers even watch the vids? :) Ah well, it matters
little in the long run. Religion will not be a part of our philosophy or a
part of the future.
Most of the D.U.M.B.s (underground military bases) were destroyed
with the earthquakes they were creating and using as a method of
warfare.
I think the PTB understands now that the cycle we had been forced
into is now stopped. Its over. No more cataclysm's created by this
group on Earth.
Of course, now they are worried about having to face Annu, and their
parent groups on Nibiru. I believe that is who they go to during the
separation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIz2K3ArrWk&ob=av3e
There is a picture in this video of a 'hole' in the sky...and the 'light'
coming through. And this is what will happen all over.
A message came into my mail today. I will copy some of the relevent
information from it, for your review.
____________________________________________

"There were many small black holes that had to be closed. I heard
from Sidney that he and the Alliance were still working to get
everything ready for the light to show itself.
This is a universal event, not simply about Earth so preparing
everything carefully is paramount. Sidney said they were doing a
lot of research to make sure they dont overlook anything.
The Alliance pulled out thousands of top world policy makers and
power brokers. They were taken out about 50-100 at a time. They
were transported to the lunar surface while sleeping and shown
everything, the net, the reps, the cloning, the fallacy of war, and most
importantly the light. They were not punished nor made to feel guilty,
as they too were all pawns and now all clones. Many fell on their
knees. They then were taken back and returned to their beds.
Ive heard different politicians and others refer to this dream. Some
now are having it jammed so as not to remember. Some are unhappy
and dont want this to be real and so deny it to themselves, but they
are slowly getting the knowing of what they saw and experienced. I
heard this in RS from two people investigating the duplicity of the war
in Iraq and Afghanistan."
________________________________________________________
Sidney is the Alliance member that had to sink Atlantis, to end the
takeover at that time. Remember this has been going on longer than
our history implies. Remember also, that 'time' is a construct, and the
Reptilian races had the technology to use 'time loops'. I didn't mention
that out right before, time scenarios give me headaches! But they
have in fact piled the days on us, in an effort to drag this out much
longer. At one point, we were 90 of our days, to 1 astral day. That had
to end first, and it did. People have incorrectly, and deliberately, been
misled about what time is. The Mayans had a "TimeStar" and I spoke
of this in the "Free Energy" thread.
The Time is being manipulated by our Father now. Everything, and
everyone, is being prepared. No one, not even those who were

considered "bad" is left behind. No "Sin", no "corruption", is countable

on Eve's children, remember even the Reptilian races were Eve's as
well. So anyone who is afraid or nervous that some heinous 'judgment'
will be passed against you, don't.
This is due to the fact that these races found a way to alter the mind
and thoughts, the very subconscious, of the people here. Even their
own people were not immune to the hierarchy playing games with
them. Very few, in fact, are in trouble. And this is why so many of us
are told over and over again, that this world is run by only a handful of
the hybrid elite.
There are a lot of different people, using different methods, all
are hearing the same messages from the Alliance.
The other side is still sticking to "a cataclysm" is coming, and
"we'll save you, just get on our ship", and "man is too young to
rule himself, you need our guidance", "you have to take an Oath
to the Federation to be allowed in", "you have to Vote, to invite us
in"....etc.
This is not the rhetoric of the Alliance, but of the Axis Powers.
They used A-Typical Propaganda techniques that led people to
believe they were the allies, Friends of Man. This is not the case.
In every situation, you have to ask whether they are taking
control of your life. If the answer is yes, they want your Oath,
they want your Vote (an Invite), they want you to Obey their Rule
(of laws, protocol), then these are the Snake Families.
And the reason is, that Man on earth, Hu-Man Kind, is being returned
to Self-Rule. Not their rule. There will be no more governments, kings,
etc. No more seizure of homes, food, and resources. You say how is
this possible, we can't live that way ...I've heard that alot.
That perception is due to the fact that the Snake families would
sabotage the populations and cause the strife we've seen in the past.

With that removal, that "he's lazy I do all the workwhy should he get
paid?", "he's mean, look what he did?" all goes away. The conflicts
within the populations will be Minor, not requiring Jails, or any of the
systems we have used. Remember Hercules? and the 12 labors were
SELF given...he decided to do them, no one imposed them, because
of the guilt he felt. There were no Jails until later. Every time the
civilizations got big enough again after one of their produced
cataclysms, the institutions of Jails would start back up.

lamonema wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
There are a lot of different people, using different methods, all are
hearing the same messages from the Alliance.
The other side, is still sticking to "a cataclysm" is coming, and "we'll
save you, just get on our ship", and "man is too young to rule himself,
you need our guidance", "you have to take an Oath to the Federation
to be allowed in", "you have to Vote, to invite us in"....etc.
This is not the rhetoric of the Alliance, but of the Axis Powers. They
used A-Typical Propaganda techniques that led people to believe they
were the allies, Friends of Man. This is not the case. In every situation,
you have to ask whether they are taking control of your life. If the
answer is yes, they want your Oath, they want your Vote (an Invite),
they want you to Obey their Rule (of laws, protocol), then these are
the Snake Families.
And the reason is, is that Man on earth, Hu-Man Kind, is being
returned to Self Rule. Not their rule. There will be no more
governments, kings, etc. No more seizure of homes, food, and
resources. You say how is this possible, we can't live that way ...I've
heard that alot.

That perception is due to the fact that the Snake families would
sabotage the populations and cause the strife we've seen in the past.
With that removal, that "he's lazy I do all the work..why should he get
paid?", "he's mean, look what he did?" all goes away. The conflicts
within the populations will be Minor, not requiring Jails, or any of the
systems we have used. Remember Hercules? and the 12 labors were
SELF given..he decided to do them, no one imposed them, because
of the guilt he felt. There were no Jails until later. Every time the
civilizations got big enough again after one of their produced
cataclysms, the institutions of Jails would start back up.
lamonema wrote: The only rules that i will ever follow are the rules of
the universe. This is the one rule everything under God has to obey.
No aliens or anything that TPTB do, can control or escape the power
of the infinite. I will never, never leave Our Mother, She is all the God i
will ever need.
Whatever happens, happens, this i accept. :D
Oldsoul: Yes, I think there was a lot of bleed through memories of past
cataclysms. I know that we had to clear alot of them, face them, and
then let them go. Part of the imagery in the movies helped alot of
people I think. We all got something out of the movie that we could
relate to subconsciously, I think. Remember it and then see it, and
then its gone. There will not be allowed any more cataclysms. They
were manufactured. At least there are a LOT of people helping to
make sure the plots for a mass game of harm are foiled. They are
working on the CMEs now, which according to the Vedic are supposed
to send a form of Intelligent Light, not Heat at the time of these
periodic transitions.

wolebosevobasa wrote:
Does this have anything to do with the recent developments on our
sun, the ring anomaly and massive CME? What about the ghostly
green comet of october 20th.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
You said the reps messed with the sun and altered its natural
functions. I've read theories where the sun works as a celestial
amplifier, a type of mediator? between us and intelligent infinity-light.
As per your premise, can the Inanna-altered sun be used by your so
called "axis" to alter brain functions during the cyclical cataclysms they
setup, like a disorienting technique so people can't fight back or
resist?. I ask because this is a theory I came across once, but I've lost
all references to it.
Oldsoul: You know...it could. It's a physics thing, but it has to do with
the fact that Light is encoded information. The Brain is a receptor of
Electromagnetic Waves. Wow, thanks for the heads up on that one.
Great catch.
Her (Inanna/Liliths) usual method, out of sheer meanness, she would
indeed burn us alive with a Hot CME...you have to remember the
Moloch hated us with a pathological hatred. Watch the "Lost Tape, full
episode..." on youtube, and look up the one with the "Owlman". A little
girl is talked into showing them where she saw it. When asked she
said.."it was a demon" and when asked why she thought that she said
that "...it felt evil". Meaning she could 'feel' it ...they are telepathic, and
they are projecting their deep hatred at the person, as well as 'hitting'
their brains.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
Thank you for the link, I have a couple of questions to hunt the
answers for now:) You know that blue planetoid object they
photographed a few days ago raised the question is this the Blue
Kachina? of the Hopi legends. And there was a second Object
expected, and I wonder if this is the second one?

You know the thing about the word "Kachina" is that there are a couple
of tricks to the word:) from my tricky word friends: "Ka" is like "Hu" the
Hopi refer to themselves as the "Butterfly" Maiden people...Venus is
also the "Butterfly People" ...and then "China". The origin of the Indian
blood type is Mongolian.
To the Hopi the definition of a "Kachina" is a Spirit. And for centuries
they have tried to explain this isn't an "angle" this isn't a "ghost". And
as I told you a Spirit is the real you that has been 'glued' into a
Vehicle. And they see them as people usually. They will talk about
seeing a Kachina sitting on the cloud looking down at them while they
are working in the fields, etc. Someone maybe out of your eyesight,
but they still could see them. They do not appear solid but only
because of the vibrational speed of their atomic structure. Yours had
been lowered, and now is rising again. That is what the increase in the
frequency is all about.

lamonema wrote:
I dunno the fact that we have had past cataclysms, both planetary and
Solar, tells me that Their attempts have failed to control any cosmic
events in the past. All the gods of the cosmos work in connection to all
the other actions of godly companions. For every action of Sol (Sun),
you get aa reaction from the entire solar system. For every action in
the Milkey way Galaxy, all gods (celestial bodies) within the galaxy
respond, as do other galaxies. Ect... on up to the universal (alpha,
omega, the beginning) actions which affect all. IMHO
Oldsoul: Yes, I had a problem believing it too. Doubt is their main
ability to inflict on us. And I mean that physically, they can use
their technology to plant it. Anyone waking up has to constantly
fight it off, because they find out ...its like a Smith (matrix)
program. Its some type of wave transmission to the brain.

I'll give you some of the more outstanding examples...we have won
this War, and are on the last little bit of clean up to prepare for the
transition. Every plot that these families cook up is being foiled...the
large scale ones. There was the CERN incident...twice they attempted
to set it off, start it. And once it was a Bird, and the next time it was
Bugs...that stopped it. We've had not one major hurricane, even
though the Gulf stream is down, there isn't mass collapses of the
systems and people. Not the usual panic, strife, that would be
associated.
The Flu and vaccine incidents...every time they pushed it, they lost.
There have been at least TWO large scale 'Cracks' opening around
the earth...not one person died. All plots of the Zeta's are being left
behind, as they keep trying to tell us about Nibiru...which is because
Nibiru is now under control, quarantined, and will not 'cross'
destructively, our path ever again. They lost the war. But they will be
allowed to collect their people, so I don't think they are that far away. I
think they are allowed to wait. Not sure.
Now its the last little thing...the Sun's CME's which were sort of
programmed in to emit 'heat' as well. That was stopped last time I
heard, about a month or so ago. Remember all those ships
around the sun? and that really big Flare, and a responding
Flare...it appeared...on Venus? That was the end of Lilith's
interference and resistance. But she could have booby trapped it
another way on the way out. Just like her. I'll check into it though
and see if I can find some answers.
Your Father's plan...is no more harmto anyone. No fighting among
the humans...don't respond or provoke fighting, it delays us all....and
let the transformation happen. Then ask your questions, he'll be here
with us in person :) not just energy.
wolebosevobasa wrote:
Our biology is undeniable tied to our star. yes electro magnetic pulses
may harm your blenders and toasters, but in that letter you shared

they're talking about black hole manipulation, you told us time is a

construct and at some point they hit the pause button and changed
our sun, whoa! this seems to be an important tactical move as per
your story and you make it sound like there's no limit to their
technology, so why not utilize the sun's harmful abilities? I'm just
following your premise and adding what I've come across, and
obviously upping my mentality a notch to match the content you
provide . This doesn't mean i believe it, but it isn't the first time I come
across this material. This will sound absurd, but have you ever had
zombie dreams Oldsoul?
the-agency-wtf-is-this-shit-t33897.html
I've spotted this being circulated throughout the web this past week,
although in all probability this is more fabricated misinformation and
doom mongering. Still,any ideas?
Oldsoul: I don't know that they haven't used the Sun, in fact it sounds
like using the sun against us is a routine thing. Time too. I had heard
of all the rumors that a group had managed to get a hold of the
Anunnaki time device, but you know, you hear a lot of weird stuff. It
wasn't until all the 'weird' got to my own door, that I decided that there
is definitely more than meets the eye going on here.
I heard that they were reanimating peoplezombies...and using them.
Many people report 'zombie' dreams where they are fighting
something that they recognize as 'dead bodies'....And that was "Zeus"
and his projects. Robotics using bio mass from the people they killed
making a type of cyborg...and zombies. I think it was Enlil, who was
playing "Zeus". But this translates as a dream to people with the mind
wipes, and other tech, many don't even remember.
THAT is a very interesting note...above. I had heard of these Portals
before, and that when we were nearly the right frequency that they
would become visible again. They were not classified as black holes
though. I have had a run in with those manufactured portals of the
snakes before though, black holes, on my property. The allies were
astounded...they had never seen them attached to the planet surface

before. hmmm, I'll be sure to ask around to see if I can find out who
that is sending and see if what they are saying bears any truth to it.
Remember part of the Nets function is to screw up any real messages
of value. So I'll check it out. Anyone else that checks it out too, write
back and tell us what you hear too.
I wonder if this had anything to do with that 'blue' light and the missing
Chinese towns the other day?

One of the common themes I hear is of their 'power'. They want us to

believe they are 'all powerful' but it really is more high tech, than
'energy beings of power' within these races.
The "Law of One" series, of Ra (of the Collective) made contact
decades ago. In his description, it was routine to stop, and move, the
entire planet and the populations. We are frozen for that moment, and
then 'resumed' in action. One of the things he mentioned doing these
'adjustments' for was to 'correct a problem within the Sun'. The Zeta's
also use the same similar phrasing and concepts.
I believe that this was the 'party line'. "We're fixing the sun for you..."
Over and over, from the hypnotists to the contactees, stepping out of
time is their normal -- and moving planets and suns, well thats
feasible when your ships are the size of planets themselves. One day,
we're going to make a great movie*grin* MUCH bigger than Star
Wars! (thinking about the historical accounts that will be made into
movies) :)
lamonema wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
One of the common themes I hear is of their 'power'. They want us to
believe they are 'all powerful' but it really is more high tech, than
'energy beings of power' within these races.

The "Law of One" series, of Ra (of the Collective) made contact

decades ago. In his discription, it was routine to stop, and move, the
entire planet and the populations. We are frozen for that moment, and
then 'resumed' in action. One of the things he mentioned doing these
'adjustments' for was to 'correct a problem within the Sun'. The Zeta's
also use the same similar phrasing and concepts. I believe that this
was the 'party line'. "We're fixing the sun for you..." Over and over,
from the hypnotists to the contactees, stepping out of time is their
normal--and moving planets and suns, well thats feasible when your
ships are the size of planets themselves. One day, we're going to
make a great movie*grin* MUCH bigger than Star Wars! (thinking
about the historical accounts that will be made into movies:)
At what risk to themselves are they taking on, moving gods around
and all? One false move and big bang stuff, or is it just moving gods in
suspended animation? Are you saying that THEY are reassigners to
celestial locations, through, time, and dimensional manipulation?
Oldsoul: I dont know how, what technology they are using to move the
planet bodies, but I do believe that is their level of tech. Everything
points to it, anyway. From what I can tell they hold the populations is
suspended animation...well...thats what I call it as I have no other
reference for the concept. But I was braggingly told, that they simply
"stop" the planet when they wished. Now this was from someone who
stopped and worked on the solar body...so I believe that might be the
truth.
I always have to stop and remember, on a higher level....this is very
similar to a computer generated hologram. And could they have had
access to that?...well, the Archons are a part of that level and they
were against us in the War. So I have to say that it is possible. Then it
would be more like using machinery, to alter the 'codes' to reformat
the reality.

wolebosevobasa wrote:
Now that you mention RA, when you first showed up here, I cross
referenced your material with other research including (yes some new
agey stuff, sorry.) Within the Ra content I found mention of a couple.
A man and woman who polarized negative and "waged the holy war"
is that Enki-Inanna being vaguely referenced in Ra's material?
Source:
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ca ... story&sc=1
Oldsoul: Wow, You know I haven't read that material in...twenty?
years :) thanks for that link. I had to buy the books *grin* loooong time
ago.
I'm not sure if he's refering to Inanna and Enki. hmmm
I do know that he had said he was channeling to them but was above
them in a ship. I also know that Ra was his "Field Name". And he was
one of the Major people in the War, as far as battle is concerned. And I
know that now his consciousness is trapped within the Net. He was in
love with Inanna, and by most accounts it was a very bizarre love, and
when others like the El were switching sides he decided to stay with
her.
The Net, Sky Net, the most major ruling net...left her. What many
called an "AI" was a Consciousness that had been captured and
'programmed' to run the Energy Net and holograms. So I guess,
speculate, that Ra took his place.
Also remember I said the Snakes...planted imagery. There are
snakes...real ones, SET is a snake. So were the Naga, and the
"Feathered Dragon" lines were from Tiamatt. That sounds like a real
image, not something you imagined. I think the geometry is real too.
Physical on some level.
wolebosevobasa wrote:
As requested:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2038/i ... 201024.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5831 ... 201024.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3646 ... 201025.jpg
I took the pics above with an old blackberry phone at around 10:30 am
est (10/20/10), so quality isn't that great and exposure isn't optimal,
cell phone cams don't seem to do sun very well . These pictures
simply don't do justice to the real thing. Nice sight to behold though.
Even if it is a common natural phenomena of light refraction, I thought
it looked like a giant circumpunct in the sky, a bit electrifying with the
two visible bands being red and blue. I had to stop the two ladies that
were with me from looking too long as they were mesmerized by it.
Nearby people didn't seem too excited, haha I don't blame them,
maybe our little moment of observation was exaggerated. "The ring is
precious" ;)
Now The following links are NOT my own images, but they do better
justice to the phenomena than my crap cell phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK4M3Yoe ... re=related
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... inbow.html (ill omen they
say? why I wonder. Maybe the whole ancient asia cultural connotation
to dragons in the sky? )
Oldsoul: maybe, Huh?;)
They are calling them sundogs, but the truth is there were little pics of
a sundog till the last few decades. I was told something specific about
the sun during the 'incident' of the inbound object. We'll see. That was
around the time that circular filament showed up. So stay awake and
aware.
That looks like what we commonly call a sundog...but everything here
has been renamed so many times, that there is usually something
else behind the visual than what we are aware of at the time we see
them. If the Ice is what causes the rainbow, and there is little rainbow
at the time of the image...one has to conclude that there is less Ice
crystals in the air.
I also have to remember ...that that 'blue' is a hologram. And that the
hologram is failing. The eye of the hurricanes were showing octagons

etc...as the atmosphere adhered to the energy pattern. This looks like
'holes' in the hologram to me, and I wonder if the 'sundog' explanation
is how they got us to ignore the visual. Roths.ld did that with the
pentagram over his door..told them it was some sort of revolutions
sigh..just snake humor.
I believe that things are about to 'heat up'. The War is about to be
publicly exposed. Enlil and Enki played Zeus and Poseidon, and Zeus
is the one tied to the Andromedan Fleets. Reminds me of the bible,
don't know how it cant growing up that way:)...we all have those
memories..."and satan was cast down, and knew he had little time..."
So it does appear that the debris will enter the atmosphere, and that
no one will be able to deny that there is a War overhead.
Uh.don't take that quote the wrong way:) I was just using the words
to express the reappearance of the Anunnaki full bloods to the public.
The word from these people (The Agency) is that the ancient
natural doorways are about to open. As in...Now...
These are Portals, Very Large Portals --- Stargates. And they are
High Frequency and have a similar effect as radiation poisoning
to the surrounding area....according to the Agency. And according
to them, you cant visibly see them (high frequency) but you can see
the results of them all around their areas...the poisoning and altering
of the area.
The Agency is a group of humans that broke contact with us around
150 years ago. I believe these are the people that went to the Arctic...
1860, Keelys rediscovery of Aether, and that Sound unlocks all
Matter...they took all of that with them. They do have contact, but it is
the same people that have been ruling all of mankind here on
earth....greys and reps. Which is why they are involved with the black
ops side of the world governments.

So they are indoctrinated as much as we are. I don't believe they

know about the portals, other than what their 'party line' tells them.
And that is, that there will be an attempt to seize control of the Gates.
In order for these gates to Open, we have to have Reached the high
Frequency ourselves...the Planet.
We have hit the first bar successfully. The biologics are also gaining
that high frequency...and it wont be long, not even a year I think. That
is how it works, this translation of energy to the physical. The
frequency alters the crystalline formation in the DNA, which is
provided by the spirit (which is an Energy LifeForm, and is also called
a "Light Being" -- you).
According to the legends at the end of each of the 'cycles' that they
have put us through here, the ancient gateways open, and all who
wish to leave this place and return home can.
These are also reportedly, the gates to the Nephili, who used the
'hollow earth' scam on us so long. Rather than tell us we went to a
Gate we couldn't see, to somewhere else!
I had been told, that the Nephli are no longer a problem...what that
means, well...I thought they had jumped ship as well. We'll see.
I have sent mail to a few more scholarly than I, and older...since the
books are now missing...to see if they remember what was written
about the gates. I'll post it when I get word back.
My speculation is that this is the gateway back to Eden. And that is
why they are after control, to block the 'slaves' from mass exodus.
wolebosevobasa wrote:
I was about to say the whole agency development creates a slight
contradiction to your premise that we won the war in May and that we
were due for the "jump" this year, I guess now it's next year... But then
you posted this. I understood you said they could "salt the well." and

that in itself is one of those "deus ex machina" things in the story that
creates a slew of alternate malleable endings if you will. The question
then is, why portals, why the recent developments, why the
intensification if war was over?
You led me to understand Adam or dad was heading the whole rescue
operation and everyone went up and everything was really in place,
only final details were being finetuned, basically in a manner of
speaking you made it sound like the bride was ready, the band was in
position, the guests were ready to toast.... Why do they wanna make
contact, is it meant to be a wake up alarm for those of us sleeping still,
or is it meant to form a type of coalition thing for a type of last stand in
earth 7.8, at least to the sci-fi mentality that's how it looks. You see,
the cosmic chess game of being pawned around to face an unknown
enemy with the rising of every sun can be all too wearing. I think you
mentioned the words 'no more fighting' in your narrative quite
extensively.
So what's the deal? As always your input's appreciated
Oldsoul: Ah, now THATS the question...whats the deal?;) Me
too...But I'm not supposed to tell. Just this part of the story, but not
why. Remember this is a War.
The main battle is over, but that last reserve group is still wreaking
havoc, it appears. So the plots within plots, the PTB in appearance,
and the Anunnaki and group behind. I can tell you that he (FATHER)
wants people en mass to be more consciously aware...visible...of the
Snake families. This goes back to clearing...for us remember it....that
way it wont be the terrifying shock when the veil is lifted. I think he is
lifting it, exposing the truth, piece by piece. I was told why this 'agency'
and it has to do with them agreeing on the astral side to serve this
way...wake/shake, us up a bit.
Oldsoul wrote: I have known several people, including myself, with
recurring dreams. A friend was always looking for a doorway...a way
out. I was always stuck somewhere lost...Another friend keeps seeing
the same fight, with the same person. I think that these are actively

happening. When the avatar sleeps, we as energy life forms leave the
body and are active. There is no 'time' so we can go to anytime....and
any 'where'....we can travel to other places.[/quote]

Awesomewells wrote: I can't believe you just wrote that!

I used to have this recurring dream where I would be walking down an
old wooden paneled corridor in the dark with a candle, and I'd get to a
door, look through the keyhole into a brightly lit 1930's dining room,
where there would be butlers waving white table cloths in a kind of
strange synchronized dance.

bleever wrote:
Hey Oldsoul...interesting once again...it brings me great pain to see
that ship burning in the sky. These last remaining "old ones" are going
to recieve just what they asked for I have a feeling.
Where are these stargates going to open up? Would love to know that
one. With everything going on and the compete disarray the PTB's are
in...gotta tell ya I'm feeling strong and confident.
As we spoke last we all are being attacked in some way or another,
however, it seems futile and now no matter how bad its gets, i simply
grin.
I appreciate what you have brought to this forum and I value
you...please know this.
Thank you, thats sweet:)

Oldsoul wrote: The old ones...that could be a problem, the potential for
harm is so large for these things...15ft and body mass to boot! Our
Father isn't the "all powerful god" that the Anunnaki gave as a
definition for 'god'. But he is a crafty guy :) so I'm hoping this will be
resolved better than the scenario's I've seen cooked up! But the
interesting part of the message was that it would expose them, and
bring the rest of humanity to full consciousness of these things. A way
to 'clear' and get past that, before we move and the veil is lifted

completely. They have literally physically raped every person..man,

woman, child, on the planet repeatedly and without interference ....that
wouldn't be the type of memory that would be helpful to pop into the
mind as we move.
The Doorways...still looking for those books that have been removed.
Wish my old tired brain could remember exactly word for word what it
was that I read...darn!
I am wondering if Adam, as an incarnate, will come through. The law
was no contact with the conscious mind...UNTIL the move. If we have
moved..in frequency..and the doors are opening, then that might be
now. So it leaves me with mysteries still to solve :)which is ok, I
wouldn't want to know my 'present' before I get to unwrap it myself!
Rather exciting isn't it?
Keep a watch on the news sites. We are looking for some sort of
outward appearance of physical signs of a doorway....trees dying all
around it from the frequency is what I was told, but that person didn't
know that the planet had risen in frequency. But the older accounts I
had of it, mention that birds flew around the door rather than through
or over, the area...
The Earthquakes are caused by Dad, rocking the owls boat. So thats
not them.
To the best I can find out...when the war broke out, and they created
this place by splitting the reality of earth into two separate
realities...they took the 'consciousness units' with them. Abducted
them.
The CU's (consciousness units) as I've explained, is a less humane
way to call a person. Remember, they don't view anything but
themselves as having value...everything is just a tool for them. These
"CU's" animate the trees, leaves, cats, dogs..us..everything here-including the 'machines' and the Spirit/CU's that make this earth's

spirit. So Adam and Eve, the Divine Couple, are calling 'all Life' back
to Eden, and the real, original Earth.
This 'shell' that SET and TIAMATT created...well, we're going to leave
them to it! I felt bad at first, hearing this...It took me awhile to
understand, I'm not leaving anything behind. Everything goes with us,
except the snake families!
How this works? Magic, I presume! Thats what 'laymen' call it. I'm sure
it has another name, but we are dealing with 'god' for real, and this is
what he's doing....altering our reality.
It would be nice to think of going through a door though wouldn't it? I
was always worried someone would be left behind! This sure resolves
that worry...I can't believe I forgot the Doorways! sheesh!
wolebosevobasa
Thats not the first time I've heard that! "Singing"
I got a very interesting message the other day relating to 'sing' to
them. Sound. The "Power of the Word" is what we are about to
regain...and that is more imminent than the doorways! They can not
stand the sound of people 'singing' ...and the message was ..that the
'singers' are opening the Doorways!
Its done by sound waves. When you are hearing a song in your head,
that is energy also ...and it is nearly the same as singing it out loud.
There was something else they said about the 'singing'...OH Yeah!
They said that the 'singing' and music, was something only Man had a
'tie' to. It ties to the "Heart", which is the "Key" to the powers you
possess. Part of your 'creator' powers. Using music, we are to open
the heart chakra, feel the music, and THEN focus your thoughts...

wolebosevobasa wrote:

"last night I dreamt a demon was trying to possess my friends and it

succeded but I intervened. My weapon? singing to it haha. So I started
singing to my possessed friend to make the demon release her, within
the dream I felt an undescribable rise of energy through me as I held
her head in place and looked into her eyes. The demon was invisible
though, we were only able to sense its presence and see it take
whoever he wanted, it affected all except me. After the struggle, when
the singing forced it to release her it went around the walls and started
shaking everything I suppose I pissed him off a little. Someone in the
room said the words, "it is Ra". Hahahhahaha, I know."
________________________________________________________
Oldsoul: No that was Ra for real. That was an astral fight, a real one.
He has downloaded his consciousness as a part of the Net now. He
attacks during the dream sequence, but it is a real attack on the
Spirit...Energy Being that is You.
We can see him better in the 'dream' time, and can remember the
dreams better, but he does do that in the day too. FYI We just do not
remember it.
I'll remember your trick next time he hauls me out of my body and
slaps me around! Thanks.

Wolebosevobasa
But In reference to what I posted earlier about the sun's CME's and
that's the reason I'm actually making this entire post at the risk of
sounding ludicrous, I can't remember who and I cannot find the
document, but someone once said the sun can emit a type of emp that
disrupts our brain's electromagnetic functions and voila it's brainflip
zombie time! Farfetched, yes, plausible? By your story's standards
haha, maybe, I don't know. Bullshit is bullshit though, who knows. I
suppose in this theoretical,
________________________________________________________

Oldsoul: I've come to the conclusion that the zombie fixation in the
movies, started with the memory of them. I think that this carried into
the avatar memory, a recorded battle with Zeus's cyborg types, maybe
the first generation of them--before the machinery was attached and
they became more robotic. You know, science and their 'newer
models' of something they work long term on development.
I looked up some info on that EMF suggestion. I find that this is quite
plausible. The brain acts as a quartz EMF receptor. There is a 'switch'
on the temporal lobes. If it is hit, with a particular frequency, this
causes a type of seizure in which the person--the mind--- is just 'not
in'. No one home there.

wolebosevobasa wrote: Take a look at the giant olmec heads for a

second. Any connection?
Oldsoul: Actually, now that you mention it...that is similar and along
that line so is the Easter Island statues. The legend is, that they came
a live, eyes glowing. Maybe they are old aether mech? BTW, did you
know that was the origin of the word "mecca"---mechanical...'mech',
'mecca'

bilbow wrote: old soul you said something about the sky changing
colour as this change gets closer, i find it a little strange as you could
almost link it to the fact that TPTB are constantly spraying our skies
with reflective material.
your not being mislead some how? where do you get your info from
Oldsoul: There were so many reasons for that chem trail...poisoning is
foremost.
But secondarily the aluminum acts as a projector screen for their
holograms, like that spiral with a blue beam coming out of it.

They also reflect the High frequency that is incoming from the Central
Sun. Keeping us low frequency would have kept the doors shut (the
ancient doorways are opening) and kept Eve's children even longer.
As an Oversoul (Father), his energy signature is a golden yellow color.
He is very large, so he covers Earth completely. When we get past the
hologram blue sky, and the veil is being lifted, his light will be visible.
That is the plan, anyway. Via contact with the mind, he will explain
what has happened, to augment the memories.
Yes, Nazi maneuvers are, however, predictable. Its a case of "oh, well
THEY are going to send in the all fathers light, then we'll make our
own light..." to confuse, mislead, cause fear...etc
I noticed that they have a new Movie coming out called "skyline" and
part of it is the "light" ...'grabbing people and hauling them screaming
into ships'....Isn't it interesting, that I heard that this was a pentagon
financed film?

horror88 wrote:If anything bilbow, wouldnt the fact that they are
spraying reflective stuff in the skys mean they are trying to hide the
changing skies from us?
Oldsoul: Yes exactly...at first it was Nibiru, they didn't want you to see
that. Then it was the sun doing odd things, like moving in the wrong
direction and pulsing! That was spooky:)
But the snakes always have numerous uses for these technologies. A
little change here or there, and it does something completely different
than the scientists who built it thought it did! That is the subconscious
knock for you :) The machine was never intended for any other use,
other than theirs from the very beginning.

fox1gal wrote:Hey everyone!!

I may have missed this, I admit I am bit wore out from dream
time.Does the Full moon effect the dream sequences? I know for
me I remember much more during this time ..
.
Well dreamtime has been way to active for meI am going to get
some kidsThe most curious one of late; a woman presented herself
a Mothering type. There were kids present, and I was trying to get
them out..I felt I got caught by her, this nicely looking woman turn
into a monster pretty much, the anger and hate that came of her was
unbearable and she proceeded to be go for my throat and choking
me, the kids got out then I woke upThroat felt bit ruff for next few
days..
Next day different place I had to get these two kids, and escaping
some place getting them out, and getting into kick down drag out with
the woman, felt like she like minion of some kind that came to mind,
and when I thought she was down I got shot in back by Male figure at
first he was helping me with the escape but he turned on the last
secondGot shot in back I was able to get away then woke up
Side been bit sore
I got up early this morning but fell back to sleep. Going to get some
kids againI felt I was taken later, but was able to slip out of it, and
get out of the body but I was spottedWoke up again I am so
tired!!!. .Okay I love kids and dont mine helping out here, but I am
really wore out,..hoping for dreamless night..or maybe a nice
vacation spot anything at this point!
Oldsoul: I have the same plans! I'm looking for a nice vacation after
we're all out of this!
A friend of mine, and myself, also had dreams of rescueing kids. Do
you remember deserts?

I don't know that you are not still going back and forth in time when
you're out of body...time has no meaning during 'dream time'. But we
sure did pull a lot of kids out. All day, all night...for years. Interesting
that you're having that dream right now. But then I had one too, a few
months ago. We were hiding in some kind of building, and I was trying
to find the way out. The kids right behind me, going lost down
hallways, stacked with things along the walls...
There was always minions, yes. I would wake with knocks and
bruises, and always thought I did them to myself somehow and
didn't remember *grin* after all...how could a DREAM leave
bruises? Like everyone else, it took years for me to clue in and
figure out what was going on.
These things were just so very far from what we are entrained to
believe, what our society has told us, and the 'educated' professions
have told us....it just never crossed my mind that I was an abductee.
Let alone that they could do this (abduct) with or without my body! It
took a long time to realize that every man woman and infant...literally
from birth...are taken as harvest. All the time, through out the lifespan,
and that this had gone on for hundreds of thousands of years....THEN,
lol, I clued in...those weren't dreams. And that the majority of the time,
I had no memory at all.
But like Betty and Barney (Miller?)...one of the first abduction cases...I
really couldn't point to missing time. I thought. They must have worked
the mind wipe around that, because only recently did it slip (their
control) enough that I recognize I couldn't "remember" where the last 5
hours had gone! Surely not just staring at the pc, or listening to
music....
However, they were taking my 'spirit'...literally pulling 'me' out of the
body, leaving the body on a type of auto pilot..and slapping me around
etc. And they could do that awake or asleep. It was later after that, that

I caught on to the trick of the definitions. They used that game in the
material world, why not the esoteric?
Going back over it, and having the backup of a group that was
investigating these things with me, we discovered that was the trick
being played. The "Spirit" is not a ghost, it is not a dead person who
has passed on, it is really not the soul per se although many equate it
to such.
What they are calling the "Spirit" is the physical real you, and you are
a higher vibration so here, you are 'immaterial' and they basically
'glued' us into another 'avatar' that is not our original avatar. That is
the 'incorruptible body' ...
They know that they took the consciousness of a sentient species,
and forced them into a body that was created for a slave and food
source, and ate us anyway. The Snake families call us 'ants' as a
human being ..."coven (of the) ant" :) they do like those word games!
They also call humans "Mutts" *grin* which I find exceedingly
humorous. Mutts are nine out of ten times, smarter on the average
than a pure blood, inbred species. And it was in this shut down "Mutt"
body that won the War, basically. The Mutts beat the Snake, and we
have our Parents love. No matter what avatar we are in, our spirit still
shines as Eve's child. The avatar will be repaired but kept. Its won its
own place as a work horse:) dwarf though it is!
lol, if they don't end it soon, I might just 'jump' myself! HA! You know, I
did it to myself though. I had been here so long, that twice I refused
stubbornly to leave, not till its over...no one left behind. I just cant
bear that Lilith gets even one of my brothers or sisters.
I mistakenly thought some of the PTB were to be asked for...and got
the response that they belong to the Snake family. At the end of each
cycle we get 'sealed' by our families. The problem I have found, is that
the snake families have found ways to subvert, and get the

subconscious to unseal Father's seal. Law of Free Will, and the fact
that we are spliced between two family lines...Reptile and
Man...leaves us capable of being sealed by either or. Our choice.
Ahhh...the simple truth...ok...I have it for you:
We are all ONE
newearthman wrote:
Since this world is so corrupted for so long there must be no point in
living here at all! Are the people who commit suicide the smart ones?
Are we prisoners here even when we are dead or can we escape this
planet? I ask because I often feel like I would rather die than live here
any longer. I don't feel like this planet has anything to offer me and I
find that more and more I don't feel like there is anything to live for or
to look forward to...It all just feels like slavery! The thought of our
history and the direction we are headed in the future makes me sick
even at my local city level.
Oldsoul wrote:
Don't give up, Love:) We'll make it. Yes, it does get disheartening. But
things are about to change. I wish it would go faster too. But
everything has to be just right, the two astrals must align to re-merge
together. I noticed not much thought or comments be made most
places concerning the new tilt of the planet:) Few have noticed we've
moved with the last few earthquakes...slow increments. I read that the
planet was now 40% into the 5th Order*density* plane. I don't know if
that is completely correct, but it would explain why the sudden rush
and the doorways reopening. We were high when the planet 'fell' to
7.8Mhz. And the snake families cant maintain level 5. Their
Frequency is too low to sustain it. Suicide commits to a low frequency,
and that is why it isn't wise, or a way out.

You know our greatest power comes from the fact that we are One.
We are the offspring of the Oversoul of Man, Adam, who is the Direct
line of the infinite Creator ONE...Intelligent Infinity. As Man we are the
consciousness units of the Oversoul of Adam. Therefore we are 'ONE'
the Creator Force...and that might be why we are Co-creators. One of
the puzzles, was a comment made by Rothschild...that if we figured
out we were One, they would lose everything (essentially the gist of it)
As the vibration increases our brains will once again become
interconnected. That was stolen from us. Once we are re-connected
we will be able to form a group consensus of a thing, and then will it
into being via manifesting it. Because we are One, we would be able
to make "Laws" upon our reality.
An interesting experiment would be to see how many in a group we
could get...and then 'imagine' something agreed upon...and see what
happens now:) I wonder if we could already have the power,
collectively, to alter the path that they have set before us with these
latest games.

Oldsoul wrote:
wolebosevobasa
LMAO... the OLD ONES
and the toyota one, hahaha
Well, there are traps in this reality. They're all around us, every day.
They mislead to think that we are to love everyone and everything,
and therefore 'don't fight'. Don't fight back against the Dracon's. After
all, we're 'all One'. But the truth is we were to say NO to the dracons:)
and stand up to them.

There were always traps, here. That is the way the Dracon's made it.
But that was their ultimate mistake too.
Originally we enter the creation to have a physical experience. Not a
'lesson', per se, but actively being in the physical does allow for
certain 'lessons' in life and experience. Eden was a paradise, there
was no real death or hardship, we flourished.
What the Reptilian races did was alter that.

usernameexists wrote:
If you read the Agency's messages via the filter of your heart you will
see how arrogant and elitist they are and they demand that we do not
question their agenda while at the same time they tell us not to believe
anyone but them.
If they are true they would never judge us because they would realize
how lucky they were to be born outside of the veil.
I am not surprised that Oldsoul supports them. Actually Oldsoul types
very similarly to them.
Below is a quote from Oldsoul that i would like to discuss.
"I realized what Delores Cannon's passage with one of her subjects
meant..."they stole our Eden".
So what they did was invade that 4th/5th d space that is called 'hollow
earth'...and there is a Crystal city called Eden with a garden...called
the Garden of Eden"

You see oldsoul i believe that the DRAGONS (calling them snakes is a
cheap shot) were the true protectors of the crystal city. They loved and

love mother earth with the same longlivity of the crystals that are
mother earths children.
I believe the DRAGONS can't tolerate humans anymore because of
our destruction of their mother earth. They are her protectors, her
elder children.
Mother earth loves her human children but the Dragons can no longer
stand their little brother's and sister's (although Mother Earth would
never let them hurt us).
We are a big family and we are all very loved by our mother and
father. Our Dragon brothers and crystal sisters are hurting deeply.
Family feud...now it all makes sense.

Oldsoul: Well, thats an interesting take...."Oldsoul types similar..." I

don't believe that is correct, but you are entitled to that position. The
Snake Family Collective was a Branch, only one branch, of the Reptile
Family. They choose that name, not me...its like "General
Motors"...its a "Collective" of races who are tied through Agreements
with each other, and they called themselves "The Snake Families".
There were other reptile races that did not agree with them. However,
the Dragons were not here first, sorry. Not even the Dinosaur bones
were here. What do you say to a race that alters time? They plant
things to mislead, and then laugh at us...our 'stupidity' which isn't
stupidity at all. Anyone could be misled if they had entire civilizations
devoted to misleading them.
As for them being the true protectors of Crystal City, that isn't true
either. Man is the life form selected to rule this planet. What the heck
would a Dragon do with a 'city'??? Crystal or not, its not like they
need the type of buildings we need:) too big for the doorways! Nor do
they need toilets, or kitchens! So no, they were not the original

anything on this planet, nor did they build the cities here. I do think
that we had some dragons as friends, as we were friends with all the
'wild life' here. That is due to our 'empathic' nature. Something that
reptiles do not possess.
I feel bad for the peoples of the 'hollow earth' groups. They were
tricked and trapped by the Melchizedek Order as well. They have their
'god' and 'temples', etc. They have no idea, and disbelieve, that they
had been altered and mind wiped as well. To them, only our people
have 'those problems'.
They are planning to leave, which is why the messages read that they
wont be here to help us.
They are abandoning Eden.
The location of equator doors has to do with the degree line matching
up with the destination they have chosen to move to.
At one point, it was decided by the Pleiadians, that if they couldn't
dislodge the snakes *they're like ticks* from earth, then we would let
them have 'this' earth...while we move to the new one.
I am not sure how it works, I really haven't questioned to much along
those lines. But I do know that the term used in the bible and in the
older occult books is correct. It is a 'new' earth..."nothing of the old
goes forward..", and "..and I saw the old earth pass away.." Somehow
or another, we are to be moved to the 'new' earth. I've heard it
explained, similar to david ickes 'truth wave' as a wave of light that we
phase with...and move.
Different people are expressing the same message their subconscious
is being given the information....but in different beliefs or cultural ways.
I don't think there is even one person that can get a complete or whole
image of exactly what is going to happen...blow by blow account. I
have been trying for two years, and nada. Not everyone is repeating

the message correctly, but it is clear they are getting the same
messages.
Then you have the Snake Families. Who are giving the message that
they are 'family' members...and you should go with them...look how
much they love you. Well...pedophiles always tell the victim that 'this is
love'. It doesn't make it true. Because we are empathic to a higher
degree, and because we do want to love the Dragons, and other
reptile members we have known in the past and want to call
friends....we are susceptible to those lies.

The agency sounds much like germanic, or nordic, type of speech. In

the way that they are expressing themselves. I think they were a
group that went to the Asgartha network in the 1860's era, around
Keely's time.
I have to think that they will be alright. He said the lies would stop, so I
am taking that to mean that even these people will be told the truth.
After all they were some of the first races after the invasion. They are
victims too.
As for why they came out now. Well that has to do with spell casting.
Around the Blue moon in January a 'request' was made. And a
request is a form of spell casting. This request was for aid. Well, 'here
it is' *grin* that our 'knights' are a bit gruff around the edges can be
overlooked. That there have been altercations in the past must be
overlooked. We are all humans. And they are literally responding to
Eve's call. We asked ;) They said they would do this for their Mother
on the subconscious level. So they are helping and we need to
respond to them as such.
I still feel really bad, that they lost two vehicles and all the crew during
their last attempt at contact. That is horrific.

usernameexists wrote:
Oldsoul,
The dragons didn't NEED the crystal city for anything, the crystal city
is a life form that the dragons resonate with akin to brother or sister.
There are no toilets in the crystal city.
There is a deep soul relationship between the crystals that have
formed together into a city that the dragons could dwell within and
share the harmony of their vibration.
Humans stole this harmony and created the Atlantis city. That was the
betrayal that we would steal from our own older brothers and sisters
when warned not to.
Not warned not to because of a desire on the dragons part in order to
withhold their powers for themselves but due to our youngness.
Humans are responsible for the state of things and all it takes is for us
to stop blaming others and accept responsibility.
"Dad" isn't going to punish anyone. We already punish ourselves.
I don't think the dragons live in the crystal city anymore, i think they
are reincarnating at this time so we are reunited.
I think that anyone that goes around calling themselves the "snake"
families are just trying to get attention.
They are not what this is about. We kicked ourselves out of eden
(hurting mother earth and our dragon and crystal family) and have
blamed the dragons since that day because we refuse to accept
responsibility.

Oldsoul: Well thats the usual rhetoric isn't it? That 'its all Mans fault'
and 'look how bad man is'...that is the purpose of getting you to cop to

taking the blame. That little piece of brainwashing was for the purpose
of deniability for them. They do not inform you of the implants, or the
Moloch did they?
There is a patch of crystal coming from the floor there, but there is a
city as well with Domed roofs, and megalithic structures...and that is a
city. And a more modern one than we have ever seen.
We didn't hurt earth...We lived in harmony with the earth and the
animals here. We did not 'kick ourselves' out of Eden. There was a
War. And there are still dragons, in the flesh, as well as the higher up
entities.
So on many levels, your love of dragons has misled you to believe
that you are bad? And that is not a Snake trick? *grin* Really???

Remember first we were Galactic man, with empowered

knowledge, and powers of the co-creator.
When the invasion occurred the Reptilian groups used gene
splicingand Eden and the garden are within this 4d area.
Atlantis was created (on the surface) after they threw us out
(thousands of years after) of the protected area.
Of course the Lemurian and Atlantean races also have their "Its
our fault" program at work too. That is why they are tied to an AI.
Like Borg's. No decision is made without the computers ok.
They talked about the Akashic records, and that again is the
Melchizedek order. The Melchizedek order is Lilliths group..the
"Shining Ones". And the Akashic records are theirs to alter as
they choose, so what is read by the computer AI to the
Lemurians...is erroneous. And this is done expressly to keep

control of them, and again to imply that 'man is bad', 'man is too
young to rule...' , 'man cant be trusted..'
They tell NO ONE, not one of these people who *egyptian* "Atum" the
"All Father" is...or "Adam" Father of Man... In one breath they tell you
he is the Creator of all life, and in the next they imply they created
Him!
They tell no one that we were an advanced race.....with
empowered knowledge...we were not bad, it was near impossible
to have those traits with our minds collectively connected via
empowered knowledge.
They tell you that 'man was kicked out of Eden' but not who built
or owned Eden -- this was our home world -- we built it. They
don't tell you about Galactic Man or the incorruptible body. In fact
all that they say or do, is said or done to imply that you are bad,
and guilty. They really offer nothing else.
otomon wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
If you hold on to the thought of the satellite, with your mind as you drift
to sleep, it is possible to get there to look at it. Simply create an
image, spot, or the like in your minds eye...and this is what is used as
the 'orders' given to the subconscious. The mind will do the rest, like it
does for the body, it is fully aware and will follow the order and find the
object.
Hey everybody, has anyone actually tried this? Or any of the things
that oldsoul has asked us to try like pushing energy balls trough your
hand? I am just curious, personally I have tried every single activity
that he has posted and I obtained 0 results... so anybody?
Oldsoul: Really? You didn't have the ball of your hand heat up after a
few minutes?

Wow, I have really never met anyone that couldn't do that very simple
one. Even the kids were surprised it worked...they all tried it in class.
Hmmm
Don't know what to say about that Otoman
The karate teachers show how to do it too. That and busting clouds.

donovan wrote:
old soul can you explain the chanting you heard, thanks......yea oto i
had that happen to me once it wasnt nice for me either. (held
down and tormented at night by a reptilian being)
Oldsoul: Its my understanding that what I was told was sleep
paralysis wasn't....
I cant speak for anyone else. But I found it was the Reptiles
something called a "Nurse" class of greys, that would freeze a person
like that. The other entities would do the chanting, much like the
ancient rituals of Satanic worship that we've heard of. It took a long
time to find out that was going on though, I bought the sleep paralysis
explanation for a long time. Not sure what they were doing, but
presumably it had something to do with the 'energy exchange'...them
siphoning our powers off.
At one time there was a trick being played by the other side. They had
the population chipped and implanted, and subject to whatever
'emotions' the snakes decided on...fear, hate...and even love. And at
one point the trick was to make you love and forgive everyone...after
all don't snakes need our love?...don't they exist as part of The One?
But it was a trick to make the people stop resisting. They were trying
to end the resistance to their domination of the planet.

(My Note: Yes, this trick or ploy Rose is referring to became

rampant in the spiritual communities. We started being
inundated with statements (particularly from channeled sources)
such as There is no duality.........There is no good and
bad......There is no evil.......Everything you think has
happened is nothing but an illusion.......Everything youve
experienced in the University of Earth was a wonderful thing as
it translated into exponential soul growth and you should
actually thank all those who played the negative roles!.....and
alot more of this complete and utter nonsense intended to numb
us to the extreme pain, torture and mistreatment we have all been
subjected to and actually feel grateful for the enslavement!!)
As I said before. I had and still have, some sympathy...feel sorry for
some...who have been involved and tricked. At one time I asked
couldn't they be moved as well...and the answer was No, not just
no...but the exact words were that 'anyone who wished them UP" was
bad. And it was a bad wish. Heaven doesn't want them nor does the
earth.
So yes, we are supposed to stop the warfare...we are:) but that
doesn't mean roll over and let someone shoot you without
defending yourself!
And yes, we are to keep eyes forward...to maintain our high
frequency so that no one is left behind. However, that doesn't
mean...'don't notice that they are skipping town with the
money'....and it doesn't mean, 'don't notice when they are about
to drop a satellite on your head'...
Be aware alert, and keep watching their maneuvers...until we go
home.
There is a pit. I haven't bothered to look up the esoteric or occult on it.
I read it 30 years ago, and really didn't feel the need. I knew that "Hell"

was Yahweh's game, a prison, and is being dismantled as it was not a

part of the divine plan. But I didn't know that the Pit was real. I was
rather taken aback, that the Reptilian groups were sent back to reevolve and heal, but that people like Rothschild, Enki, etc...were to be
thrown into the pit. I thought, why one and not the other? I suppose
we'll eventually find out why, the only conclusion I can come to at this
point is that they were considered unsalvageable as 'spirits'.
And yes, there were victims. An entire Galaxy would disagree with the
statement that there were no victims. Trillions died, and not easy
deaths either. Its rather akin to saying, "poor Nazi's", forgive them as
they kill and torture these people. Well, the forgiveness comes AFTER
the wars, not during the rape and murder of the masses during a war.
And although it is officially over, there are still maneuvers being made,
and still victims to their crimes. And it is abundantly clear, they will
continue till they die....or when the light enters and they are forcibly
stopped.
Take for instance the recent elections. To not try and vote, is to give in.
We are supposed to stand up and say no. Not necessarily shoot
people or raise a mob...but still-- say no with our votes. Say no
publicly.

marley wrote:
Oldsoul, are you still under the impression that Lilith is gone?
Oldsoul: Makes you wonder doesn't it?
Yes, there seems to be alot of her maneuvers, or maneuvers of her
cults...the Bilderberg, etc.
I haven't had any information as to whether she's come back though,
so 'still gone' is all I have had word on.

She reminds me of that guy in Harry Potter...that can't be killed, only

contained.
As for the Agency, I am very curious as to how this will all play out.
I knew that we were being returned to the Barter system...I had
worries about that too, until I found out that the definition for 'barter
system' wasn't correct (the name game again) And I do remember that
the Babylonian Slave Queen (Selene) gave us the 5 day work week
and monetary systems as a form of slavery.
I know that the divine plan is to expose the PTB...creating the freefall
economics...and then ditching by sea and air( lmao)
Is going to expose the truth of their being a Cult..."Satanic"...and their
theft and fraud on the people.
The next step I suppose, would be to expose the Anu. and hybrids..the
church/vatican. And it appears all of this will happen back to back.
Selene is also, I believe, the Selene in "The bloodlines of the
Illuminati, Who's Who and How". She's Cleopatra's child, who as a
hybrid followed the 'law of the seed' and married her brother
Ceasarian (Jesus) and was called mary 'magda-lene'..thats who the
statue of liberty was modeled after.
I believe that all of the maneuvers the PTB are currently making, will
actually speed up the removal of the 'veil'. I think that Father has
something going on, while they are looking at all their plots and
stabbing each other in the back they are missing it. I think this is partly
why they are leaving the states right now....if that report was true.
There certainly is evidence, a trail of it, that they are bailing...the stock
exchange has been busy with all the stuff they are dumping on it.
Selling out and cashing in. Faking an invasion, and then watching their
parent race invade for real....

He's up to something*grin*
Bit down and tired today. Feeling my age with this cold snap. Looks
like I'm going to have to put one of my puppies down, too, to top it off.
Of course, she's not really a puppy, she's old, and thats just the time.
She has been at the stage for about two years now, where she cant
get up well. Can't get her feet under herself, and the arthritis makes it
painful.
Yesterday I went to help her up and she screamed in agony and
writhed. Since I'm normally gentle with her, the only conclusion
considering history and medical, is that she had slipped something out
of place along the spine. She couldn't get up all that day, and curled
over unnaturally to relieve her spine. Had to be a nerve. She's up
again today, but I know that I don't have much time left with her.
Maudlin today, sorry. Well, I'll talk to you guys later, I think I'll try and
lie back down.

A long time ago, as the story goes....Eden was invaded by a Snake.

This reality is created with a Wave form. Think of a radio Wave. And
you can have more than one radio wave existing in the same spacial
area. What is called the "Hollow Earth" is such a 'pocket' area. A real
place, but on a higher frequency, was my understanding. So that the
tunnels and doors to the surface can actually be set at the interior
frequency and be effectively 'shut doors' on the surface connection.
Within the "Hollow Earth" area is a city Called Eden, that was the city
of Galactic Man. It is still described as a 'Crystal City' with domed
buildings, and crystalline material is the primary building material.
Could there be another 'Crystal City' as a Name, rather than a
description of the City of Eden? I don't know. It could also be a
recreation of the city of Eden from "Above" ....from when they split this

reality and Earth into two. They did recreate other heirarchy and
places...their own 'heaven' and added a 'hell'.
When the invasion occurred the city was sacked and taken. What few
were not driven out of the "Hollow Earth" were kept for genetic
experiments. Each planet, at the core, has a stargate. Ours was
unique, which is why we were a type of Vietnam strategic location that
needed to be conquered. Only the DNA code of the inhabitant of the
planet, by design, can activate and control their own stargate.
Because the Divine Couple made their home here, ours went straight
to Heaven.
The genetic experiments and hybrids, were kept in the city
garden..."The Garden of Eden" and this is why the bible has it written
"let us make MAN in OUR image.." They spliced their Snake DNA
(Hu) with Man's DNA, until they basically got the slave type they
wanted. So much of a mix and disinfo in the bible.
The upstart is, they created their own 'lines' as well. The
Nephliheim, Nordics, the GFL peoples...And these are who took
over the hollow earth area and set up the Asgartha Network. This
is SET the Snake and TIAMATT - the Dragons offspring, Nibiru,
and the other races that were collaborators.
They create the cataclsyms, and what type...fire or water. And then
they send in their 'rescuers'. All who claim they are not related to
Nibiru...like the Andromedans. Or Ashtar Command. And these
rescuers select people and give them some line..."family" or "you're
better than those others, you get it.." and they take these people.
Supposedly, to safety, in either the Underground, like the Lemurians,
or on ships, etc.
And these can go if they follow, just a FEW simple rules. Give up
your right to self-rule "after all man is so bad...just look what he
did.." And get chipped. After all, an AI is trustworthy, a Man is

not...supposedly. And there is always the use of guilt with people,

never telling them that they were implanted...or that the
emotions, memories, reasoning had been tampered with.
So they collectively guilt the human race, all based on a lie and a
con. And Man who is an Empathic animal by nature, feels sorry
when they give us these well versed lines of 'how man did them
wrong'...and they take these gullible people to the cleaners!
Gullible isn't really the right wordwho wouldn't be gullible if that was
the only information they had? They controlled more than this planet,
the Melchizedek and Ashtar controlled this galaxy. And Higher up, you
had Micheal, who is the Carian race of the Bird Tribes of Nibiru.
This war was never all the branch of the reptile races. It is a small
branch, that formed agreements with others and this is called a
Collective. They call themselves the Snake Family. This is SET
and TIAMATTs line, and the Dragons that have done this are the
same as in legends on earth. Enki and Enlil...and Inanna.
You may wish to think that 'death' is real. However it is only 'real'
for us here by the trickery of illusion and mind, and that is the
Wizard of Oz they are still trying to play and why in our erased
minds we thought they were gods. They fear our retaliation, but
that is because of the reptile brain which has a hierarchial
mentality. Because of this war, they themselves were never
capable of 'growing' past that flaw. Most races do. This group did
not.
Many were sent in, and there are supposedly other reptile families
here too. We were all once friends. So presumably, we are about to
return to a point...free of these saboture Nazi's....to being able to
return to that love and friendship with all.

The Agency, and the Web bot, two who really may not be accurate
but all have received the subconscious knock. So bits and pieces are
reflected in their writings. Both are speaking of portals. And some
point to a last 'food run' by the Snakes. And of course everyone sees
that the hybrids are playing their games...its that visible. At least when
you take 245 planes, 65 aircraft carriers, 3000 people to a foreign
countryits visible.
But they are all talking about 'disappearances' too. People
disappearing in crowds and such are reported by the web bots. And
the 'portals' are about to open is reported by the Agency. Well, when
the frequency hits the matching freq. of the doors, they become
open...when you hit the same freq. they become visible. But there are
controlled portals as well.
The Hopi say there is a split to occur, and I really find that to be
about accurate. There will be those who are pulled out. Some for
jail, others for the party. The change will come to the planet soon,
right after that, is what my understanding is. You have to be
physically on the planet to remain at this high frequency for the
transfer.
No one will ever be at 7.8 mhz again. That mentality is done with.
We are to return to the frequency we fell from. There were many
life forms on the planet with us, that were from different origins.
Some wish to go home, some are going to a similar setting with
others that are near their own freq. so that all will have the right
peer groups by sympathetic freq. ...cymatics at work:).
The phrase 'none of the old goes forward..." has disturbed me for
the implication that the mind will be erased. It didn't occur to me,
that some actually would prefer not to remember. Be that as it
may, the move is to give everyone a clean start, with no baggage,
and the memory is contained as a distant memory at best without
the emotions or horror. The change is to occur, as an incoming

light, yellow/gold is our fathers color. I am not sure if you will

remember the people that disappear. Although the Mayans, and
other small areas, have disappeared and the Indians
remembered.
I posted these vids, because they indicate just how long this is gone
on. Remember, there was actually a time BEFORE the zodiac.
(WATCH THESE VIDEOS ON PAGE 130 OF THE THREAD)

usernameexists wrote:
Here is an old Sumerian myth about Inanna and the Huluppu tree
"A young woman who walked in fear of no man,
and would not be owned,
Plucked the tree from the river and spoke:
"I shall bring this tree to Uruk.
I shall plant this tree in my holy garden."
Inanna cared for the tree with her hand.
She settled the earth around the tree with her foot.
She wondered:
"How long will it be until I have a shining throne to sit upon?
How long will it be until I have a luscious bed to lie upon?"
The years passed; five years, then ten years.
The tree grew thick,
But its bark did not split.

Then a serpent who could not be charmed

Made its nest in the roots of the Huluppu-tree.
The Anzu-bird set his young in the branches of the tree.
And the dark maid Lillith built her Home in the trunk.
The young woman who loved to laugh wept."

"The snake, because it sloughs off its own skin, has long been
connected with rebirth. Both because of its regenerative aspect and its
phallic likeness, the appearance of the snake suggests rebirth and
sexuality.
Moreover, the text states that the snake could not be charmed.
Inanna will not be able to appease, tame, or disregard it. The snake is
immune to the laws of the land.
The Anzu-bird was known to the Sumerians from the story Ninurtaturtle, in which the Anzu-bird unsuccessfully attempts to steal the Me,
the attributes of civilization and knowledge, from Enki, the God Of
Wisdom. The mature Anzu-bird, depicted in Sumerian art with the
great wings of an eagle and the face of a lion, craves power and
knowledge.
Lillith does not appear in any other Sumerian texts. In Zoharic texts,
she has dominion over all instinctual, natural beings, over every living
creature that creepeth. Lilith forms with the Anzu-bird and the snake a
triad of sexual, lawless creatures who live outside the bounds of the
Sumerian community and seek power only for themselves. These are
Inanna's unexpressed fears and desires , which have now been
named.
http://onlyadmitone.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... tween.html

Oldsoul: Yes, but she was NEVER A WOMAN

The sumerian information was the propaganda left by Nibiru, for
us to find, at this time...to draw the erroneous conclusions
from...to mislead us to the wrong conclusions.
They always used the name game. Enki was Amon, Yahweh,
Poseidon, Satan...the list goes longer if you go to every tribe of
people on the planet. They were shape shifters for the most part.
Inanna also went by many names..."Isis"...and "Osiris" was
Demutzi(?) her lover that was killed. She also used "Hathor",
"Athena", "Ishtar", "Lilith", and again, if you go through the ages,
you will find many names for her.

newearthman wrote:
My dog Chewy is about 2 years old and he means the world to me! I
believe animals are humans in training. I would love to live in a world
that was kept natural and peacefull where all humans respected
nature. This world seems so far away from that dream!
Oldsoul: You just discribed Eden *grin*
We did live in harmony, and we are about to be returned to that state.
Harmony...hmmm
Sound:) and Cymatics, lol.
Well the people on earth, the majority, all want to live in peace and
have a care for the planet. It is the sabotage of media and politics that
keep that at bay right now. They would lead each nations people to
believe the 'other' nation had no care...when all they are really seeing
is the politicians and their rhetoric on the media. Think about it...have
you heard on this forum, or another, anyone speaking in terms of how
they hate animals? the planet ecosystems? etc? The trick is to make

human fight human, instead of collaborating enmass against the

anunnaki...that was always the game.
BTW, I think you are right about 'people in training'. All the
species we see here, have a representative species that is
sentient and evolved. I think what they do is 'grow' the soul to
that point and then they incarnate into the sentient lines...but
thats speculation on my part:) Haven't heard too much about it
anywhere else. Only two other sources have even mentioned the
topic...the "Law of One" which was Ra, and Delores Cannon's
works. Both were channeled from the Snake families, so not sure
how much truth is there.

lamonema wrote:
I just wanted to say thank you for your time oldsoul, what you place
upon these pages are imho revelations in and of themselves, i do not
follow religion, i follow my heart. :sunny:
Oldsoul: Yeah, they did a real disservice to mankind here by instituting
Cargo Cults! And then altering even their own works...such as the
Lilith / Inanna issue.
They didn't put in Sitchins works that this was a species of snake instead they lead the reader to believe these are Men. In fact they
outright lied, saying they had never seen a snake before! They lie
about darn near everything!
Their own names...the name game they play...are lies. They don't tell
you that Enlil is Inanna's father. But the archeologist's recently
uncovered a grave with caniable remains, and inscriptions to that
effect. Inanna sought to replace Eve, and set up the information and
books to reflect her as the 'mother' figure. She was actually known as
the 'Mother of Abominations and the Worms of the Earth'. You really

cant find a whole truth to any of the written works left behind. It was
always a propaganda trick.
Lilith..Inanna
They are the same person. I know there are written works that say
differently, but that is my point. They lie, that is the snakes forte. Enlil
and Enki are her grandparents, and Enlil is also her direct father, and
this is because of their Nature as a Reptile race which does not breed
the way man does. This is the "Law of the Seed" that they follow. To
keep TIAMATT's bloodline. Tiamatt is Enlil's mother.

usernameexists wrote:
Oldsoul, could you please explain who "mom" is to you. I can't
remember reading about her from you except that you use the word
"Mom.
I am sure you are well aware that Isis, Mary, Hera, Bridget etc are all
considered to be the All Mother, Mother Divine.
So if the "All Mother" or the female creation force is not represented
via these supposedly loving, nurturing and protective energies....
Who is? How does the TRUE divine mother present herself to you?

Oldsoul: This is a propaganda game. Like Hitler being the 'father'

image. These are all names (most of the list you give) for Inanna who
sought to remove Eve from the knowledge base of humanity. As a
long lived species, she planted herself here and kept restarting her
own cults with new names. As did Enlil and Enki. Zeus and Posiedon.
Andromedan and Oanes. They only speak of love, like a man that
beats a woman and then says how much he loves her, and is only

doing this for her own good! Only this is a female, and not a species of
Man.
sunny4u wrote:
hi all, newbie to posting but have read through this thread and enjoy it
completely. thank you oldsoul. i was wondering if you could possibly
shed some light on the orbs. what are they, what aren't they? where
they fit in.
thank you so much for posting this thread! it has explained a lot for
me.
xoxo s

Oldsoul: I've heard alot of different things about the orbs. Thing is..that
the 'shield' technology bends light and looks like an orb appearance
too.
It's my understanding that the orbs...the nonmechanical...are
'biologics'. These are Consciousness Units (if you are calling it strictly
by energetic terms) or Spirits, if you call them by esoteric terms.
These are people. I think that is why the old Indian legends refer to us
as starting out as 'round' beings.
The mechanical ones are drone units controlled by remote.

sunny4u wrote:
I hope she comes back! i hope she's okay. :(
Oldsoul: Sorry I was gone so long. I get ill, its true, so sometimes I'll
be out a week or so with it. Chronic illness is hard to deal with, you
never seem to finish whatever you were engaged in from one minute
to the next! Very frustrating. But I'll stay on here at dtv:) until the end! I

find this forum unique, and it has a great crew on board. Not like those
'other guys', GLP etc, lol!
If I've missed anyones post, please put the link to the page up for me:)
I didn't skip you on purpose, promise.
I also don't usually reply to messages sent to one another, not me...so
chat about all these things here freely. Its good to open discussions
about this, we seem to put these things in the back of our minds, and
only when we talk about them publicly do we find out that there are
others with the same story.
There really aren't any books to help...only a few references here and
there... randomly it seems, with bits of truth in them, seem to exist
today.
I notice that there is a winding down of events. Every time the cabals
try something the conspiracy theorist out them! So they have to stop
the plan, or alter it. That is a good thing. I think that the conspiracy
theorist in a way, are an armyan intelligence and espionage army!
And in fact, if they had the resources the CIA had they would RULE
the world, lol ! Not one of the cabals would remain intact. So when you
post, and nothing happens, that is really a good thing...not a bad thing,
or discouragement. Had you not written or posted about it, then their
plans might have blindsided the populations.

Oldsoul:
Hi Kent,
Yes, I know that the source is food. However for me, I feel it is really
too late. I tried food sources years ago...and to be honest they told me
I should have died in 2000. So I've lasted a bit longer because I did
change my diet and include the medicinal herbs required. But now, I'm

just worn out. I was actually told AGAIN...that I wouldn't make it to

May of 2010. So much for doctors, huh? *grin* Fooled them again! I
think that the plan is that I am to go RIGHT before the Exit for the
populations.
I just couldn't stand to leave without seeing with my own eyes that the
kids would be free of this governments maneuvers. No one left
behindthat was the promise given. And I plan to stay and see it to
the end and make sure...no one gets left behind. Things are delayed
because of that, waiting on the others to dig out of the mind control
enough to recognize dad and choose to leave with him, but it is worth
it to me to endure and see it through.

redwoodrick wrote:
Hi Oldsoul...you have a beautiful message,though I am not sure it is
true.I will start with one of the statements you made.
..was ADAM...atom..the first thing created.
...here you draw a correlation between the word "atom" and the name
"ADAM" in an attempt to describe first creation.The two words are not
related in etymology and have not even come to our english language
in their original form.There is no linguistic tie between the word "atom"
and the Hebrew "Adam"...Pronounced: A-dm (English), AH-dahm
(German, Dutch, Polish), ah-DAHM (Russian) [key]
This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from
Hebrew '( adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy color
of human skin, or from Akkadian adamu meaning "to make"
This does not make your message any less beautiful.But I felt you
should be aware of inconsistencies or false correlations.The film
Zeitgeist makes the same mistake when they draw a correlation
between the "Son of God" being born and the "sun" rising on winter

solstice to describe the origins of Christianity.A false correlation and

easily avoided with a basic understanding of the roots of language.
I love your message though and look forward to your further
posts :sunny:

Oldsoul: Yes, the problem was that the Anunnaki played the name
game you see. The altering of languages and all, was theirs. There
was an article once, on 'viewzone'...haven't been there in years...and
they had discovered a source the author called "man tongue" which is
a program that gives the root word of any word you enter and its
definitions.
In Egypt, they called him "Atum" the All Father. I know there is a
constant discrepancy between the current books and what I am telling
people. But that discrepancy is due to the propaganda game played.
There is such a thing, or was, as called 'bastardization' of a language.
Over time the word and spellings alter. Adam, Atum, and Atom were
tied together in that fashion.
Saxon is a language that is far older than understood at present. This
fact is born out by the systems used in Alchemy. Hebrew is a newer
language.
The translations from Hebrew are as you say, different from the
translation of Saxon.
They themselves, tell of the tale of the "Tower of Babel", and how
Yahweh/Amon(Enki) and the other Anunnaki separated the languages.

I am currently wondering at how many more maneuvers the Russian/

China and American/English cabals are going to continue. So much
Allied effort is being applied to suppress both sides from doing harm to

the populations. And even the conspiracies are dying down! You have
to wonder at the shear amount of energy being displayed, to keep 6
billion people calm.

Eve, Adam, Eden...all appear to be originating from Saxon...if that is

what it was even called back then. But it is before Atlantis and
Lemuria, and both of those before the hybrid Hebrew tribes were
started. Now of course, all the surface population is the hybrid
lines...human. But that doesn't mean we are less viable, we are still
the Spirit incarnate of galactic man. And friends:), not to forget those
who are not species of man, but in a human avatar as well as the rest
of us.
Like everyone else on earth, I went through the same theories,
systems, etc. Hypnosis, meditation, religions. It was only when I
found out that these were systems set up to mislead, that I
caught on.
I agreed wholeheartedly with the "Law of One" it never occurred
to me that Ra was 'bad' or misleading us. I thought there was a
'lesson' or purpose to the harm. Like everyone else I felt love for
Jesus, and religion wasn't a dirty word, instead I felt sad for
those without knowledge or love of Jesus.
I am no different from anyone else in these things. It was only
when I was startled into consciousness during a battle that I
became enough connected to gleen the few bits I've shared here.
But they found out that we were awake, and so the abductions
began again and the 'sight' that had been restored was removed
to a great extent. Now it comes and goes. Some days I only see
this reality, not both.

So I understand how hard it is for some to believe that any of

these things are true, I would have argued with the same book
references....and there is the glitch. There are no works left that
hold the truth, without tampering from the Anunnaki. They
tamper with the books, and they tamper with the minds of the
population. They have entire civilizations devoted to it.
Out of more than 200 races involved as the Axis Powers
fractions, none have been our friends. Think of the Hitler youth,
and we are that youth grown up, all within a system of lies and
propaganda. I think that until Dad shows up in person, many will
have trouble disbelieving their books and religious figures. We
tend to cling to things, and I think this is due to the mind wipe. A
mind that is completely emptied, wiped, goes crazy. We have to
fill it with something...so they filled it with their version of the
war.
Which is to say, they made everything a lie.

It appears that the PTB, and the controllers the Anunnaki, are vying for
power and their 'split' of humanity. I find these maneuvers interesting
as I sit and watch. You have the usual ploys, as they desperately try to
set off one catastrophe after another. The Bank meltdown...the Korea
nuke threatthen they play that Simpson game. They release
information of plans, to hype up the fear and worry in people. That is a
food and power source for them.
Dr. Boylan's release of information is that the Greys and Reps have
'given an ultimatum' to Obama. That Obama must give disclosure
now, or the Greys would. He wants to set up new governments, and
Nesara, and give every man 5 million and tie us to further slavery not
one ounce of sense that this is a slave system. Like 5 million is worth
anything nowadays! Not only that but the Security of the Person is

actually the GPN divided by 350 million people...quite a bit more than
a paltry 5 million. I sent him an email about the deception of the
Greys, and he went off on me. This unusual extreme anger is the
promoting that the implants and Nets give the people they are in
control of. He is completely controlled by the Greys' and is absolutely
trapped in the belief that he is the "chosen" representative of Earth for
the "council".
You also have the antics of David Wilcox who also believes that these
are good people. He quotes Ra, from the Law of One research. Ra
told them that the orbitals, which place energy rings around the planet,
is a quarantine for Earths safety...to keep out the 'bad guys'! No one,
at least in the 80's I didn't, suspected that that was a propaganda trick
or that Ra is Anunnaki.
That is not a quarantine, but the NET that is holding the planet
prisoner. My take on that is he is preparing the planet, the 'other'
side of the anunnaki in-fighting (Enlili/Enki) are about to openly
enter and fight over the planet...they plan. And the winning
Anunnaki will be said to be the 'good guy'. Good cop bad cop
games are usual for them.
In no way does he plan to remove the NET, he plans to reinforce
the NET.
Meanwhile on the planets surface, besides the antics in the
governments over Money, the Anunnaki are playing the religions. Enlil
as 'god' and Enki as 'satan'....and so there is the news that the
Muslims are now 'going to Jesus', have converted. Both games are to
play these cults and groups off against each other while they sit on the
side waiting for the carnage to ensue and then end, human against
human...and either way the Anunnaki win. This changes the dynamics
of the infighting as cults switch sidesand fight for their 'gods'.

On the brighter note, the succubi and other entities are pretty well
routed from the planet. They would attach to the person, and usually
invade the dream state with sexual thoughts or emotions. "Wet"
dreams. They were sucking the life out of these people, who had no
idea that it was anymore than "just another dream". People would just
think that they were having a good dream! Not knowing that this was a
real entity that like a parasite would drain them, feed on them. They
thought it was some attachment that they had here, a person they
loved or someone in the dream who loved them...like a memory.
Every day, I hear of more and more people questioning "is this a
dream? The feeling will come through the dream state, that what they
are experiencing is more than just a dream and it leaves them with
questioning minds.
The sun is helping us...Lilith had planned to set off a CME and
alter the Sun to send HEAT with it, scorching the Earth with Fire.
At the end of this cycle, as recorded in the Vedic originally, the
Sun sends a Light that makes contact with the planet - no heat.
This CME Light is reported to be Intelligence, that makes contact
with the Mind, and alters the body. What they did, was set off
cataclysms usually so that that wouldn't happen the way it was
supposed to. They have kept us from the exodus for three cycles
now, this being the fourth.
The sun though is an Entity, and it has decided to help Father,
and has expanded the portal around the earth, opening every 8
minutes. I think that this energetic portal, keeps the people like
Ra's groups from entering using the stargates...portaling in
without dropping the Net. Which might be why they have
suddenly announced that the 'quarantine is lifted' and plan to
come in through the Net via Space.

Father needs our support, by heart and mind. Don't let Doubt win.
A Magi that has doubt cant manifest, and this is the same thing.
So concentrate Love, with both mind and heart, on him.
The Energy does make a difference. He (Father) is being slow,
because to do this move fast would cause harm to us.
Cataclysms. True, we would end up with him in the end, but that
isn't the way this is normally done, and he doesn't want to
traumatize the populations. We'll be traumatized enough when
they find out all of the truth about the religions, money, etc.

Mountaingoat wrote:
Your words ring with truth.
Thank you for posting Oldsoul.

nyarelathodep wrote:
The greatest of lies always contains large fragments of truth. To say
that "The Law of One" is a total lie is, to my mind, very erronous, or to
say that Christ Consciousness is a lie, based upon what you were led
to believe Christ was/is via the official doctrine, is equally erronous.
There are many true and useful concepts that one can understand,
even when spoken from the lips of deceit. All one needs to do in order
to prevert the path is change a very small detail, and over time/
distance, a fractional error will yield an enormous change at the
terminus...much like shooting a rifle and being a fraction of a
millimeter off at the barrels end...which will result in missing the target
by a long shot over distance.

Oldsoul: It is not that there arent true phrases, like the phrase
itself "Law of One". Its that they are giving definitions which are a
lie. So in that regard, by the time we have read over their information,
unless you already know that this is propaganda...you come to the
wrong conclusions.
For instance, he talked about consciousness units, and gave a
detailed explanation...with one exception. He leads people to believe
that this is simply energy..a function of the Source. He doesn't tell you
that the consciousness units are stolen people. Reduced to
disembodied energies that are forced to 'hold' a position here. No, I
did learn a lot of things from the books he channeled.

I think that they might be waiting for all the Anunnaki to show. That
might be why they forced them into coming in ships instead of
portaling a smaller group in.
Still it blows my mind, just how many strings worldwide that they are
able to pull. From governments, finances, to religions. So I thought to
comment on it here, via the perspective of a third party player which is
never mentioned...the Divine Couple.

Interestingly enough, I had a similar dream of triangles last night. I still

think this is our sight returning and is an image of the codes of the
creation. The dot, like the curpunct*sp?* the circle with a dot.
Another friend of mine sees little flecks, she says they are stars...like
gold flecks in the air and sky. She talks to them too. So you are right I
think, about pulling him up to the next level. She is on the next level
when she di\escribes them, in the air surrounding everything. I've
often been told that the lower entities cant survive in that level, so
they have to run to escape.

The Sun is nearing? huh...well, there are those who talk about the
orbit changing and getting closer to earth. The Vedic though,
gives a similar tale to the Hopi's planet migration tale. They say
we pass through the sun, to the other side. It looks like the same
solar system, but in fact it is a different level.
By pass through, that means a stargate...there wouldn't be heat
or overpowering blinding light. I know that the EL and Inanna
altered the Sun to emit heat instead of pure light...so maybe that
is what you saw?
Why did they tell you that sharing dreams wasn't right?
There is an African tribe, I forget the name of it...But what they do is
teach the kids from an early age to take control in the dreams. And
they are to 'catch the monster, and make it tell a secret". And this
could be anything that they need to know about something going on in
their lives. And in the morning at breakfast they all sit around and
discuss their dreams.
There are some things that are dangerous that I know of. Never let a
demon look into your eyes. They can 'see' you. And this means that
they can find you wherever, whenever, there afterward. But dreams? I
have never heard it was dangerous to talk about dreams. So I would
like to hear the reasoning behind that one.

wolebosevobasa
BTW, that dream of Zeus...they keep telling me to 'remember Ur'. I get
only flashes though. Its my understanding that Zeus/Enlil is a
shapeshifter..Tiamatts line. And that he is over the Andromedan fleet if
that helps. They did invade others besides Earth, and there was
galactic fighting for all this time. Since Time is a construct we are not
bound to in dream state, then I would say that you were seeing a

glimpse of your past. I would still like to know what they said about
sharing dreams?

wolebosevobasa wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
Why did they tell you that sharing dreams wasn't right?
It wasn't within the dream I was told not to share, my dream
companions are just guardians, warriors, protectors, within dreams
some of these people get in harms way and bait danger away from
me, but they don't usually lecture me. It's what I'm told by people that
study the phenomena but hold true that this stuff isn't real, rather it is a
subconscious manifestation of things I may be enduring or lacking to
express, deficiencies, sex stuff, mommy issues lol etc. The jungian
freudian stuff basically. Now oldsoul I am no expert on the field and
these people dedicate large portions of their time to this stuff, so I saw
no harm in heeding their advice. Which is basically that sharing this
stuff may expose intimate stuff about myself. What is your opinion
then?

Oldsoul: There are alot of times when we have a dream and

wake...we go "HUH? What the heck was that about?"
But the dream has a quality to it...that is so dramatically different that
we inherently KNOW that it was more than just a dream. We know
that it was something unusual, even though we don't always figure it
out. Sometimes its the fact that you see things that you've never seen
or read about..if its 'just your imagination' and the dream experts are
right..then there should be something while awake that you can point
to and say thats where that image in my dream came from! But there
never is.

Sometimes its the unusual feeling you have in the dream, like it is
lucid dreaming...but with a difference you just cant put your finger on.
Sometimes it is a startling revelation, and that brings your focus and
attention to the dream. But anyway you have it, the dreams give us
enough pause to be remembered all the way from childhood. Now if
you're 50 or more, you know that normally memories fade with
time...even childhood. But these don't seem to fade.

wolebosevobasa
First the wiring. When I used to fly, I started to have problems runing
in to these wires...at the time I thought it was the telephone wires. And
you mention communications wiring. I do wonder now if this isn't how
we see the Net..which is like wires criss-crossing our skies.
The other is the Archons. Which have a similar description of a
lions head and worm/snake body. And are often seen in a
fortress type of asteroid, monitoring our worlds.
Since the Archons are part of the collective, I suppose it is
reasonable that he would be of a similar setup.

wolebosevobasa wrote:
oldsoul wrote:
fossileyesed wrote:
trojans maybe?just a thought
peace
Trojans?
huh?:) Trojan dreams?

He may be referring to MK Ultra type stuff.

Oldsoul, as per your fantastic narrative are there groups within "the
allies" that focus on the repair of time?
Edit: I'll be back in about an hour, maybe we can pick up then? Thank
you for your time Oldsoul it is valued.
Oldsoul: The Azurite Press writes about that. But as far as I know, the
system of Time that was put in place here, was done 'illegally', and is
to be removed. You know...the post earlier about there being some
truths in bible, book of Ra, etc. There is one phrase in
revelations..."and there will be Time no more ..." And that is what is to
happen to us. There are some that still wished to work in this type of
world...we call '3d' ...and they will be moved to somewhere that that is
possible. None will remember that they were moved. But Earth, as it
merges back into the plane above, and the Earth Above, will no longer
be under time constraints. I have to go for awhile too. Be back on
later, will enjoy the talk! Look forward to seeing you all this evening.
Switchtrip wrote: Hello there old soul,
Just took me 5 days to read all that, my head hurts a bit now lol,
Ive got alot of things to think about. and have some questions, i wish i
had wrote them as i read now but now, but i have to go back to find
the bits i wanted to question, and do some research,so may take a
few days, . im sure you keep an eye on this thread.
Stay tuned people!

fossileyesed wrote:
i'm talking about something old soul mentioned once about trojans,as
in enimies acting as friends.trojan serpents.thats all.

i had a persistent bug dream,simular to what your demon fight dream

was.i was in control,
but every time i caught the beetle,a giant 6-8 inch,
luminous red beetle,it disappeared, escaped my hat and reappeared. i
was trying to show someone in my dream, not sure who, this beetle.
the giant beetle had a string/cord/tether attached to its rear. on the
end of the tether was a normal sized, normal colored beetle.it
remained constant.
when the big beetle disappeared, each time, the normal beetle
remained
when the big beetle was there so was the attached little beetle
your disappearing demon dream sounded similar wole
peace

Oldsoul: Thats were the scarab comes from. I really didn't research
him much. His name is in the Egyptian texts.
We had a problem with these insect races too. But awake. One was a
Mantis species...then there are the Spiders, the Worms
(dragonworms) and Snails--and all of these are giants.
The worst one we ever ran into though was a Wasp. It ran an army
that was attacking us. Mind you we weren't sleeping during these
attacks, and I wasn't alone which is why I said we. I don't know much
about their powers, except that it is the snail that is responsible for that
'give up feeling' and 'doubt'...It'll make what ever just happened seem
like 'awhh thats just my imagination..." and then you forget it even
happened it dims so quickly in the mind.

You know last night I had my sight back for a brief time. So I chilled,
'how cool is that'....I relaxed in the chair and closed my eyes and
waved my arms around and wiggled my fingers...and yep I could see
them just fine! And then I saw something else...and it was bad..so I
went to surround it with light, like I used to with my mind. And I
couldn't!
Nor could I grab it that way. That upset me ...and then I remember my
hands! So I lifted my hands...and grabbed it. Way cool...I couldn't feel
it in my hand but I could see it! And knew I had it and pulled it. And
THAT worked. I used to open a door and drop them through...but that
wasn't responding...so I squished it! I used to hear them squeal...didn't
this time...but it turned to goo! so I had to be satisfied with shoving the
'whatever it was' off my lap!
I wonder if they found a way to be immune or cut off our ability to use
light shields. I couldn't bring up a shield. And I couldn't open a door to
shove them through. Nothing was respondingso something major is
shifting. Still the fact that I was solid enough to move my arms through
the area, like a puddle making waves as you move in it, was
something else. So something is altering.

I was offline working on a vid. Got to nearly the end...and the CPU
crashed. You know that trick gets really OLD! But I have learned they
can tamper with my mail and CPU...I would like to say its the CIA..but
no, its the Net. In fact he calls himself E-Net. Lol, a friend of mine
figured out why, but I can't remember right now :) so don't ask!
(if I don't respond to a mail...probably DIDN'T get it! so sorry if I
missed you, wasn't on purpose!)
Anyway, to do the Divine Couple Vid...I had to have tunnel vision,
OCD PERSISTENCE. It took 16 daysbecause the CPU kept
crashing when I got down to the last three minutes to finish! Now I

don't mean it just turned off. I mean the program erased...the backup
program erased...the pic file erased...and the word perfect doc with
the edit erased. No, the disk wouldn't save it...suddenly the 'save'
feature wouldn't work!
Lol, but by the time I had started over for the - no kidding -12th time -I had the script memorized!
So this time when I started up again..and it crashed I decided I was
too tired to be OCD tonight! I mean I was doing it 16 hours...people
were complaining!
hahaha "wheres the food" "where's the laundry" "Socks??"
Too tired to do that tonight. But obviouslythey don't want me to
discuss these things;)
Lol, my poor IT tech guy...he just shakes his head after 3 years of this
stuff. He built the cpu's...uh, All of them! Lol, and of course I could tell
him, at this point he might believe me because he never finds what the
cause is. The hard and software are Fine!
There is a problem it is true...and that is why the information has
always been made in bits and pieces from all these different sources.
We all get the subconscious knock.
But the objective of the NETs and the other contraptions corrupts
information...and the exchange of it. They can alter the mind of
the person hearing, as well as the person giving it. All these
mechanisms are breaking down now. Which is why it is more
possible to get some of the truth, than ever before. Meters miss
none. They hit us all with it. So if you find points that seem
incorrect, thats ok. Take what you find relevent then, and no
harm no foul!

thesparkle wrote:
Oldsoul:
Saxon? Where did that come from? Please point me to more
information regarding its antiquity.
The funny thing is that over the past couple of weeks I have been
reading intensively about the ancient Saxons, what a coincidence???
Saxon is a deep rabbit hole with many connections....but please tell
me more, especially how as you say it is older than Hebrew.
Please!
P.S. Here is one of the books, written in 1885, that I recently read,
available entirely online:
"Israel's wanderings: or, The Sciiths, the Saxons, and the Kymry, by
Oxonian"
http://books.google.com/books?id=jg8AAA ... le&f=false
Oldsoul: Some very interesting info was on "ViewZone" (.com) some
years ago and they found the glyphs in Texas that are a bastardized
version of Hebrew, and decoded the information. It was the Lost
Hebrew tribes...tells how they were shipped here for slavery and then
ended up being absorbed by the Indian races.
There is a program, called "Man tongue" as well, that gives root origin
and definitions linked to that site. Then there was the online 'book'
called "Dweller on Two Planets by Phylos" that gives a similar thing. I
dealt with a lot of manuscript for alchemy...going back to before the
11th century and interestingly enough they link the higher languages
that used a symbol, instead of words.
There is also the Bible Code, which I did research in when it first came
out years ago. Have you seen the movie "Contact" with Jodie foster?

And she tells of a three dimensional method of writing? So the code, I

found, if you use the ancient name of the place, the date, and the
name of what you are looking for...like the 'old gods' names, or an
object...it spits it out. Alchemy the whole works, Hebrides sea "He
Brides" of the merpeoples...:) Talks about "Isis" and "Ra" being in
ships and coming in...at this time, now, so that would be the Anunnaki
above us currently now.

switchtrip wrote:
Hello old soul, i hope you feeling better. A few questions at the
moment, in no order.
1.
what if, because of all the illegitimate children of past kings in england,
that somehow, without you knowing, you had blue blood so to speak,
and was part snake family, without knowing, neither does your family
and you are a really good person, would you be saved?
2.
not that it matters too much, but what year is it right now?
3.
how will the animals and trees jump?
4.
with all the words that have been changed over the years, how do we
know that the word "Father" is not a name that is one of the enemies?
sounds a bit like feather.

5.

why do i dream of the future?

and do you think that possibly, it is the future that people are dreaming
about, of war on earth with black triangles ect ect. and by telling
people of our dreams of fighting and ufo's publicly, we are exposing
are selfs to the enemie, as the people who are going to fight them of in
the future
however, if it is, i have no fear, i will tell you some of dream i had,
I once flew up to the moon and sat on the steps of a building that
reminded me of the coliseum with the collums, in rome. it had big
doors with an arch with weird writing above it.
ring any bells?
i looked down apon the earth, it looked beautiful, i will never forget that
one!
I have seen one of those black triangle craft in real life in broad
daylight above me near a millitry complex. doe you know what these
are?
in my dreams we are always hiding from them, under rubbelld
buildings in what looks like a war zone.
also my new born son was taken of me and his mum not long ago, the
local authority made up lies, saying bad stuff about me, luckerly mum
got him back, but im still fighting to try be able to see him
unsupervised. one of the people that was trying to take him away
wears a ring were the snake/dragon is biting its own tail. i sensed she
was evil, and wanted to bad stuff, she has funny eyes. snake woman
not long ago when i was awake, i heard hissing coming from nowhere
in my house, on minute it was right next to me, the next it was in the
kitchen, the cat was looking at something.

and also, not long ago there was an entity in my bedroom that
breathed on me with very bad breath, to witch i woke up and charged
at it, i dont know if that one was a dream
another dream. loads of red orb type balls in the sky at night they they
all split up and go of in different directions, then it hails, and i lead
peopl to safty, then its all over and its day light. i cant remember much.
but when i woke up, i cough a small ball of light go past my window in
the mirror, it shined through the curtain.
ive also dreamt of those grey things, coming and taking me, im
paralysed and cant scream, their teriffying! thats all i remember of
those, twice of witch i know.
please can you shed any light on any of that?
sorry for it being hickerly pickerly, with bad spelling im not very good at
writing
sorry im not trying to discredit you, and i want to believe.
PEACE!
Switch Trip

Oldsoul: Switch Trip, we have all been attacked by these things. The
greys do paralyze us like that. There are vids of the monolithic
buildings on the moon. That is the Dreams, which are actually
memories.
In Dream state there is no 'time' so it could be anytime:) past or
present...not so sure about futures since they seem to be more fluid.
And they have run us through 'cycles' where we reach space
civilizations, and then they destroyed us and begin again. the Black
triangle ships are the black op governments that are working with the
reps and greys for technologies. Not good.

As for the 'blue blood'. It doesn't matter really in the long run. There is
only...in comparision to how many involved...a small handful of people
in trouble who actually get the Pit. The Divine Couple gave birth to all
of us, and love you too. they gave birth to the dragons, and
Obouros...not All Reptiles were involved...just a branch called the
Snake Families.
You had to have been Biblically bad for a Very long long time to be
cast off. You forget, all the mechanisms and tortures they did to the
populations to 'turn' them...into human monsters of greed and such.
Even the pedophiles and murderers. True...some were those
incarnations of the ones in trouble...but most accused and caught
today are due to the implants and the seeds.
It is my understanding that the 'transition' is that they pull all Life from
the shell created, and it merges with the real Earth on the real plane.
This is done by pulling the entire planet and raising its Frequency
through the barrier of the plane above. Not a cataclsym. It is a smooth
transitionfor the most part!

switchtrip wrote:
Also, i thought the meaning of life on earth (not the meaning of life all
in all) was that..
"First you must experience bad, before you can fully appreciate
good".
So I believe we cant be born into a perfect world because we wouldn't
know its perfect, and when we go to the so called heaven, we only
know its good because we know what bad is, well something like that.
Anyone got any views on this?

Oldsoul: We were entrained for many centuries with that one...it

is propaganda. They needed a cover story about all the bad they
put people through. They couldn't just tell you they were
Predators and we are Prey, and thus the 'bad'.
There were never "lessons" to be learned here, in the way as
described by these teachings. We were having a physical
experience, and it was for personal growth....(but not 'lessons' as
they gave)...and we were interrupted in this and captured in a
War, and held in a prison. No one was allowed to return to One
for ages.
According to the people on the plane above we have been
missing from the real creation for 8 to 10 years.
There are so many levels, and so much has been done, that even
on a 1000 page thread, just writing out what has been done,
where, and how long...wouldn't fit!
All over the Creation, they struck civilization after civilization.
Some they put in here with us...their 'zoo'. It didn't matter
whether it was other Dragons, reptile families...They were an
Organized Criminal Element that had many members.
That doesn't mean that there were not others of similar species
that were not on the Allied Side. Just like the World War here. The
only problem is, is that they erased the allies names from the
History books and archeology records. And so all we have left,
are the names of the Invaders.

Heart wrote: Oh Beloved oldsoul I have finally found you!!! and the
story still is captivating...I hope your feeling better! Being new here I
need that envelope with all those helpful hints...given to you on page
one! Please continue this threadIm still following your every word! I

am so stoked to see this knowledge here! Take care and see you
soon.
Sunny4u wrote: I'm not sure how much of oldsouls narrative is 100%
accurate, but parts of it resonate with me and parts of it correspond
with my personal experiences. Its not being gullible to choose a reality
that offers some hope as long as it doesn't negatively impact the
happiness of others, so that is what appeals to me about this thread. It
is up to the individual to find their truths and to take the parts that fit
and keep them and discard that which doesn't resonate with you.
Thats where I'm coming from lowsix. Some hope is better than no
hope. I can think of at least 5 solid ways in which humanity is
supposed to end in the next 2 years. I prefer a happy ending and if its
a delusion so be it, if it all goes down or if nothing at all happens,
having hope that it will all work out will make the next couple years
more palatable.

Oldsoul: Good morning everyone, I hope you've been well:)

Welcome Heart! I see you found me*grin*. Heart and I met online a
few months ago, on another topic. Heart is in fact one HAPPY happy
person! hahaha, so I'm hoping it'll rub off on some of us who could use
a lift in spirits these days!
Welcome to you too, Sunny4:) I hope that you find the discussions
and thread interesting, and look forward to your input.
All of my team has been slammed the last month. It is funny, we often
remark about it among ourselves, that the attacks are always the
same. It starts with one, and then goes down the line. Right now,
Strep is the attack of their choice. Now this sounds innocent and coincidental enough...until you go down the list of co-incidences and find
it is not! They have also shut down 4 of the 5 computers. Almost
everyone of my group is now offline, and this is an attempt to shut

down communications between us. Succeeding at this point too! I am

exhausted, and feel like the life force is being sucked out of me. But I
never give up...just slow down more! HA!
I was working on a new vid. Worn out with the restarts. As I mentioned
before, they have a means to wipe the cpu etc, but this time I did the
script first, and printed it*grin* so I'm taking a break from the
frustration of it all and catching up here:) So it looks like I stopped
around 137...going back to reply now. Just wanted to say good
morning first *grin* Good morning!

sunny4u wrote:
i'm so glad you came back and i hope you are feeling better! thank
you for your response. i have seen both, the solid metal kind, those i
assume would be the remote controled ones....was wondering who
owns them? and the other kind. i'm aware many think they are dust
particles and such but it is possible to interract with them. i verbally
divide a room in half and ask them yes or no questions, ie right side
being yes, left side being no... and then i take a picture, forgot to
mention that part. i've asked them to go over someones head for a
picture or over my hand or something and take the picture and they
are very accomodating about it. anyone can do these things and see
for themselves that they are sentient beings. but what kind of beings
are they? some say spirit... human you think? i've asked them and
some say yes and some say no. a friend has two orbs that always
follow him in pictures and have actually showed up as a fairy. Image i
tried to insert one of the pictures of his fairy, i don't know if i did it right,
i'll know in a minute i suppose.

i guess i'm wondering if i'm correct in thinking that the spirit type orbs
are not just one sort of being but that they could be any number of

interdimensional beings and as you said they all kind of appear round
usually, and i say usually because i've seen diamond shaped ones
and even square ones...i had a theory that could be "the watchers"
that are referenced in the the Book of Enoch. like both sides (good/
evil) pretty much both have beings that keep track of what people do
at all times and that we all pretty much have a few from both sides
with us at all times keeping score. silly thought in retrospect.
sorry for rambling on. would really love to hear your thougts on any of
these things and thank you again so much for this thread!

Oldsoul: You know, there is a lot going on with those things right now...
There is a lot of people that say the allies contact in person. I haven't
found that to be true. You see there is still a 'law' in place concerning
contact and the only 'lawful' contact is supposed to be the
subconscious knock, not a physical...and by physical, I mean the
body/matter or solid photonic. The Orb is the only 'physical' that a lwful
person could use. And as the technology mimics the way things really
work in the realms above, these solid metallic ones are used by the
solid bodied peoples..
I had heard, and by the way your description reads, that the orbs of
both kind will reply to telepathic thought. They are designed to pick it
up and hear it. For the most part, the Spirit Orbed people are the
peoples from 'above', following 'law' are here and raising the
frequency past the barrier to pull the whole planet Up and they are
many species from all over the Creation who were called by the Divine
couple.
They are allies for the most part...not too sure about a few I've heard
of though, there is the Giza information that sounds like the
disembodied Thoth and others who are still fighting. The metal orbs

are more from the reptile races/Ra.... and from the nephilheim of
'hollow earth' which is a pocket of a higher frequency.
The 'hollow earth' people are as deceived as we have been...they
have the same temples, priests, etc. and were talked into
implants/chips long ago. Despite the fact that they are the
offspring of the Snake Families, I don't think that the lie will be
allowed to continue for them either.

sunny4u wrote:
i think i may have went off topic a bit my last post. even though i've
been reading and watching vids here for over a year i am a complete
newbie to posting and so i'm sorry if i inadvertantly make a faux pas.
i'm apologizing for any future errors that might occur and of course for
any past. i recognize that most of you know eachother and have a
history with eachother and it's fairly daunting to me as i want to make
sure i'm respectful and not piss anyone off. it's kind of feels like being
a new kid in grade school. if you ever were one, you know what i'm
talking about. it's treacherous coming onto a board, especially this one
because the nature of this site draws people who are skeptical and
who don't trust that everything is as it appears on face level, and for
good reason, we've been lied to our whole lives, in my opinion
anyway. well i can't say for other countries but for the US one great
example of that is the fossil fuel myth/lie. i assume everyone here
knows that oil is not from dinasours.
if there is a place for newbies to introduce themselves, can someone
please give me a link? if there isn't a place, hi, i'm sunny. female. 42.
live in calif. nice to sort of meet you all.

oldsoul, i was wondering if you had the skinny on the bubble

structures that nasa found a couple weeks ago in the center of our
galaxy?
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/newstructure.html
hope your health has improved. thanks, s
Oldsoul: Thanks for the good wishes:) Welcome to the forum, and
thread!
No, I had heard the news, but hadn't checked it out yet...thank you
very much for the post! Very cool images aren't they?
I haven't investigated it yet, I can only tell you the past of what I know
and my opinion. My opinion is that the shape is the same as the shape
of the infinity sign, which I find interesting. Ma' at is there, and the
Ashtar Command seized control and rules it. Ashtar is Inanna who
created the Melchizedek priesthood, the akashic records, etc.. This is
who created the 'law' that gave us death here. As I said, death in this
world is a trick played on us.
Since the correction of the imbalance extends there I would imagine
that we are seeing the correction going on. But that is an opinion I
haven't had verified by any other information source. I do know, that
what we see in the telescopes is not the correct images of the
universe.
Exactly how this is possible is by combination of tampering with our
eyesight as well as the holographic images. We see 'rocks' and there
is apparently by what is our normal sight, images of the Spirit of the
bodies that is blocked now. I'm also not too sure of the electron. I
know that the 1953 report by scientists of matter off-world said that (on
Earth) the electron was binding it like cage, not allowing the atom to
move freely. That was the report stating that matter off-world behaves

differently in respect to matter on Earth. There was another person, I

cant remember at the moment the website or womans name...that
said that the electron was to be stripped here, it was the cage binding
us. Now how this could be, I am not sure. Over and over we are told
that this is not a death, and that that is a lie...we are photonic based
and solid without the electron, magnetism, etc.

funnyman46 wrote:
So I guess, "Words from an Old Soul" won't hit the theaters this spring
then Otto?
Did you give up the book version or are you waiting for the movie
rights? Shame, it would make for a great back story for the next trilogy
of Sci-Fi flicks. Closure would be the hard part.
Oldsoul: You know I laughed at that, and then remembered that movie
that was shut down about the Anunnaki:) I agree closure would be
hard! In order to know the ending You would have to exit this
place! :lol: And by then, what would be the point in making a movie
*grin*

switchtrip wrote:
old soul has helped me realize a few things.
one crazy thing is, if some of which she said is true, it would explain
why that the high frequency music i listen too extremely loud, puts me
in a higher state of consciousness. it keeps my ears ringing for a while
too, maybe its just taking one of my senses away, making the others
stronger, who knows. i know most music at high volume gives you
tinitus, i know its not the ring shes on about, it seems alot of people

get that, normally in one ear, i would like to know why, been trying to
find out for a while now.
im not trying to be funny, i just looking for answers to things that have
happened or are happing in my life, and find the truth, you may call
me a truth seeker.
hey old soul, hope your alright, i would like to know, if they hate
singing, why do people sing in church?
cheers

Oldsoul: There has been some other recent discussions on this

topicsound and music. There is something to do with the harmonic
values and sacred geometry. Some sound waves affect the brain in
harmful ways, and it has been said that these are being broadcast
with the more harsh music being played right now as popular. Sound
is also with voice, the "power of the spoken word" and when looking at
the church music, the trick is not just in the harmonics used but the
words of the song as well. Sort of like the spoken prayers, with the
trick of ending in "Amon".
So..all caught up:)
As most of the people here, have been reading the posts the last few
weeks, and all these odd things are happening.
David Wilcox is speaking of Ra. Saying that Ra has declared the
'quarantine' over. Of course there wasn't a quarantine, there was a
Net. And David gives the description of that net, with orbitals creating
a type of electron pattern and the image, with energy bars....and Ra
told him this was a quarantine to protect Earth from harmful ET's.
Then there was Dr Boylan, who is expecting his greys and reptilians,
to give us a new government and money....another trap.

Then there were all the Muslims that said they were suddenly
converted, and believed in Jesus, and now the news that this other
group expects Jesus to return 6-5-11, and put up billboards to
announce the rapture.
And before these there were the anouncements of the Queen and
Marshal in Australia, and his announcement to ascend the throne as
the closer bloodline of Jesus...and the GFL's constant promotions of
Sananda(sp?) whom they claim is Jesus.
I am constantly reminded these days, of the Hitler Youth. How do you
explain to these people...'believers'...that these religions were
propaganda?
And the people who think that they are in contact with good people,
friends...how do you tell them that when these contacts are made,
these 'friends' are stopping time and erasing memory? And that they
are treated even worse than the general populations in order to keep
the 'contactees' implanted and seeded?
Many times I've witnessed the Smith program in action. I've seen an
entire crowd turn to an angry mob and get violently angry instantly by
the Nets prompt. This is a defense of the Net. It is meant to suppress
anyone who is succeeding in telling the truth about what is going on.
Anyone awake is a target. And it goes on all darn day, the only semipeace is solitude.
We are all hit, although many don't recognize it. They attribute these
things to co-incidence. It is only when you start discussing the whole
thing that you find out that the coincidences surpass the odds so
completely that it becomes impossible to attribute them to accidents.

sunny4u wrote:
I'm glad that sound and voice was brought up because I have been
interested in reverse speech since around 2002-2003. Are you familiar
with the phenomenon oldsoul, and If so, what are your thoughts on the
subject?
I'm on my iPhone so this will be brief, thank you for responding and I
look forward to reading what further develops of the bubble structures
should any more info come avail to you.
Regarding the orbs... They do respond when I ask questions, I'll ask
about something I had read about the nature of reality and nothing...
Then I ask, are you not answering because you don't know, and an
orb or two will go to the no side of the room. I asked if they were not
allowed to talk about certain things and they said yes. Rules to what
they can answer and talk about. That agrees with what u are saying
and since I initiated. a dialogue with them not the other way around,
they just showed up a lot, would that still be a breach of the law on
their part? For the record I don't think they are all beings of the light, I
think some are good and some are the opposite of that.

Oldsoul: No, I think you are right. There are groups that were sent in
by the Divine couple. But by groups, I mean thousands of individuals. I
don't think that this is breaking the law. They are not matter, the orbs
that are spirits anyway. The orbs that are mechanical, are people
similar to us...physically here or attached somehow to this domain.
RS (remote seeing?) seems to have been our Enigma Machine for
some years during the war. And as in that war, in this one it was
cracked right before the end of the war. If Ra gets a bead on your
frequency ...he hacks it now. I have seen a few who get around it. It
seems that having another native language, and then speaking in

English..with an accent..and reversing it seems to offset his ability to

tamper with the tapes. But that is an observation:)
Not good at rs myself, but I do find some truth to what I've read about
rs and evp...in other words, there are other things said elsewhere that
back it up, and personal experience seems to back it up. I have a
friend that is superb with it, queen of rs:) and she was always good at
ferreting out the pros and cons of something we were questioning. Its
a useful tool, but shouldn't be the only and last word on a subject,
when you are probing for information on something. Always find a
number of threads to the subject ...astral., etc...and then find what
backs what...even then it can be a potluck.
I do know that there is a Universal Mind, and it has personality, etc.
We were connected to it. This was part of what empowered
knowledge is, and what earth is returning to. The rise in frequency is
the reconnection to the strings of force. This interconnectivity is what
allows us to 'know' things...because we are directly tapped into the
Creator Force.

Cymatics, I'm assuming that everyone here is educated...its been on

Conspiracy threads since its discovery and coined term:) and all here
are the great detectives of Conspiracy!
There is a spread, with the frequency and the geometry. And in the
Creation there is a place for everyone. So some who choose to
continue with a similar life, may do so. It is what you "dream" of...what
do you really desire?
Some choose to leave the Creation and go to Heaven for instance.
Some choose to go to places within the Creation where they first
incarnated, before the War, and resume their lives there.

Some are moving to the 'new' earth, which is the Earth remerged
with its self on the upper plane, and that earth has been returned
to its former beauty - Eden and mankind there will return to their
former independent state and power.
Some are choosing to continue with a structured life, and cant
conceive or are not ready to have a life without structured
governments, laws, and such.
Remember, it is the subconscious that chooses. So part of the
sabotage was done to the subconscious you see, and that was the
point of Religions, and subliminal suggestion, etc.
So they slowed things down, to give everyone a chance to catch up.
Some must have the ptb exposed, religions/Jesus exposed, the greys/
anunnaki/nephili exposed, etc....And unfortunately the rest of us must
wait! But we wouldn't want to leave them here trapped either, for that
trap will close and that will be the end of it!
So we must continue to expose the 'conspiracies' and out all of the
bad. At the same time we are constantly told that looking and focusing
full attention on these games that are being played out, are HOLDING
us back! That we have to let go of the past, the bad, and look
forward...and concentrate your heart on the life you want to live, and
that is how it is manifested for you.
When the division comes, it will be rather instant. Depending on where
you are in the frequency range is what determines where you land. So
if you are constantly full of anger or fear, etc. then you end up on a
lower frequency than you should be.
However, no one will be left to the Snake Families except their specific
bloodline that holds a spirit that belongs to the oversoul of its
members. And even those I have to wonder about. If they as hybrid,
hu-man, choose Adam and Eve, wouldn't they be allowed to be sealed
by them rather than Set? After all, it works in opposite. Set is using

these ploys to seal Eve's children. And all are children of the All Father
Adam.
There was alot said recently about the Pit, on another site..a biblical
one. They were questioning if it wasn't one of the planetiods/moons
around mars. All I know, is that there is such a thing as called
Alchemy..Al means God, chemy is chemistry. So God Chemistry is
how at least some of these things are done, building lifeforms for the
spirit to inhabit as a vehicle. And in that referance, the Pit is an
alchemical term meaning a calcinating oven. An oven which burns so
hot that everything is turned to white ash, leaving no matter left and
setting a spirit free of carbon.
The Pit in reference to angels is a Pit in which a spirit and soul is
thrown into. That Pit strips the personality code and all that that being
was in all their lifetimes is gone leaving only energy and then returning
the purified energy back to the Source. You have to have been very
bad, almost every lifetime or for a longevity race...you had to have
been bad for all of that time. And I mean Jack the Ripper bad. And
there are some that are in that situation here. Not just some of the
Hybrid Families, but the purebreds that are here in hiding.

Hello Heart, lol!

Hey guys, have you watched the movie "Inception" yet? Wow...really
impressive. Its a Dream movie...the last good one I saw of that sort
was the Dennis Quaid one..cant remember the name off hand. I
would recommend this film though its rather a dark type.
It did bring something up which I found rather relevant. Simply from
my point, though*grin*. It talks about the seed of an idea, that
germinates over time and becomes larger. And that the subconscious
can be altered ....the choices..that way.

Which reminded me of the centuries of subconscious infiltration to the

spirit that the snake families put so many through in order to retrain
the subconscious to choose them or feel guilt via Jesus, to choose
'amen'. The allies were seeded into the linear time, but only left
around 8 or 10 years ago in 'real' time...doesn't that statement give
you a headache? *grin* Time systems do me that way!
Most of us though have been trapped a long time...since the beginning
of the War. Haven't a clue as to how long thats really been, but I keep
getting told, its not as long as geologists date it. Their dating methods
are inaccurate. Five hundred thousand to 3 million (in this reality) is
the general area questioned...which on the geology records looks like
3 billion years ago. Interesting concept isnt it? In the movie... the
deeper you went, the slower time became....reminds me of here!
Lmao, Heinousone...it was meant to be humorus...:) did we succeed in
making you smile?

Lowsix, thats an interesting perspective. However, I fail to see how it

matters one way or another to you? I mean really, why is it so
important to you that you would even bother to post on this thread if
you feel that way? What you want is a 3d explanation for something
that exists only in the ethereal realms here, and in the disclosure of
the Anunnaki in the physical here.
Now if they disclose, that would bear out what I have said...but what if
you are one of the people that made a choice to continue a similar
life? What then would it matter, if I told you what was happening, and
you were to forget me?
As to fiction or nonfiction...no I will not say that it was fiction just so
you can feel better about pigeon holing the whole thing in your mind. I
have told what I could remember, and what I had been told in the
astral, and what a group of us tried to investigate on our own.

Now instead of trying to make me 'say it is fiction' why don't you find a
way to explore these things on your own? Get a couple of friends
together and try it out yourself...go into the astral during dream state
and meet up and then remember it and discuss it.
On one debate you absolutely require textual proof for truth yet on the
identity of Heart you accept the intuitive thoughts of four people and
proclaim that as truth because it jives with your intuition, correct?

Lowsix wrote:
DAMN Fair point, but still, yes.

Oldsoul: This last week or so, I have been going through old files,
books, tapes. I was going to try another vid, to piece it all together for
you guys to look at and to discuss. So I went out, and bought a piece
of equipment to change the old vcr tapes into dvd to extrapilate it on
the cpu...and the darn thing doesn't have all the cords needed for set
up! I know that they sold all those companies to the chinese, but darn,
cant they at least Pretend to put the stuff together correctly? Do you
know that this thing has a cable in plug that doesn't fit any standard
cable box cord???
Just wanted to let you guys know, I'm offline alot right now, but its
because I'm digging up the old books and stuff. Not because I'm
ignoring you:)
Anyway, not too sure how this vid will do...still having all the same
problems with the thing. But its worth a try. All I have is the movie
maker program, so that will have to do. I thought to try bits of live tape,
though, from other sources...since sources are what everyone asks
about. Some of the older ones were on youtube, but they seem to be
pulled now. In particular I was searching for "The Isis Project" which

was done by Russian scientists and journalists. Its interesting that the
Russians are still putting things on youtube, that the americans have
been blocked from viewing these last few years, such as the evidence
of prior nuclear weapons use here.....but they are all in russian. No
english subtitles to explain what they are saying. Ah well, just thought
to check in. I'll be back tomorrow. Hope everyone has a good night
tonight!

March 9, 2011
Oldsoul: I am writing a letter to you and going to try and paste it onto
the page. So much has happened since Christmas, and I havent been
able to get back online, or to read or reply to anyone.
Around the 23rd of December I became really ill. It acted like blood
poisoning and moved quickly. I resurfaced as they say, around the end
of January, only to be knocked back down again. When I finally got
well enough to sit on the computer, I found that the CPU wasnt
behaving right.
Then I had my DSL and phone lines somehow brokenthe list went
on and on. It was later, when I finally managed to get a hold of my
cell that I found out just how sever the attack on us had been.
EVERY one of us was offline. Ill tell you about cursing later, but that
is what the EL did. The police, the unusual utility bills, all of it was a
type of cursing done by the Satanic Coven we had gone after, who
were protected by the El.
The news of late is VERY good. Most of the people who were
corded, implanted, seeded and all the rest, all of that is nearly
completely removed.
We have gotten most of the Els tech down, the towers and
portals they were using, etc.

We are working on the last of those that were unwittingly making

vows to stay with Liliths people, the Anunnaki. The greater
majority of people dont know that the subconscious is literal
and the El, Anunnaki, etc. had used many ways both subliminal
and out right swearing oaths to these people whom they led to
believe were their families, and friends. The Nordics, GFL, Zetas
and so on. It is true that they incarnated into the human form...to
sabotage and to rule.
But these are noticeable people within our societies, they are the
leaders within our societiesnot the regular Joe down the street.
This group is Very status oriented, and wouldnt take a lower society
position. They are extremely arrogant, status and money driven, and
refer to other people as useless eaters and other such terms. But
unlike some that use these words in anger, or occasionally, these
particular individuals are hard core about this behavior.
You will also see many of them driven to hard core extreme religious
beliefs. Revelations and such, and they have a particular anger
when anyone tries to talk about the EL/Greys..its not true and youre
delusional etc.
That is the control of the NET which is Ra (amun/enki) who put a
part of his sentience into the crystalline tech of the three obelisks
in Washington, London, and the Vatican. And this is who
corded all the populations, and was able to push the thought
and control via the cord on electromagnetic wave to the brain. Its
self defense mechanism kicks in, when anyone tries to out him,
and the end result is the human being behaving with extreme
anger or ridicule on the subjects.
Always remember, this was a criminal group of more than 200 races.
In fact, they are all listed on the Zodiac. There are those who are
dragons, born in human form, and trapped here by this group along
with the rest of us. These are not enemies, but victims. And you will

notice them as people who are also, like you, aware that something
isnt right here on Earth.
So to bring you up to date..Lilith/Inanna was caught in July of
2010. Satan/Enki was caught around January of 2011. And now,
Lucifer has been cast into the pit this week. His calcination is
complete, and his personality is wiped. He exists no more. The El
for the most part are removed, and there are those who switched
sides and surrendered to the Divine Couple. There are others
who lasted till just this last month, and that is who caught me. I
am busy now, removing the tech they implanted in my brain and
which removed my sight, And this is done with a Spiral
reversal spell.
Google, Microsoft, and the other corps run by the families of 300 were
built with back doors into the tech they build. They can see you
through the CPU screen and through the TV screen with a type of
built-in camera and a backdoor subroutine to activate it when they
want. So I fog them up by mentally imagining the fog, and it seems to
be working rather well. Got me cursed *grin* which I am reversing
back on them.
You might have noticed that the Homeland Security, a Hitler
organization, is seizing the Bank security boxes with gold. That is
because Rothschild has stolen all the gold at Fort Knox, and I find it
humorous that they are seizing the other family members gold.
Snake eat snake. Clinton, Bush, and others are trying to form a group
of 800,000 members to stop them. There are more than 1 million
Satanists who with Anton LaVey and Edmond Rothschild, did this to
the world. Used cursing and other rituals to do us harm and keep
themselves in power. Remember this World is all Energy and Energy
Exchange.
But as I told you long ago, the Monetary system was created by the
Babylonian Slave Queen Selene, (Cleopatras daughter by Marc

Anthony) And so the monetary system will be removed, and that is

what you see going on. All the past cataclysms were created by the
Anunnaki and their offspring. This is now ended. There will be no
cataclysm, although these Satanic groups are trying to cause them.
I dont know the Date on our side of the Veil, but on the upper
level it is May when the change occurs. Eve is the May Queen
you see, spring and love are hers. And while the Anunnaki and
their groups only accept those who are of a particular nature,
Mom takes all her children who want her. And mankind on Earth,
even those not of man but in human form, wanted and voted for
Mom. She gave birth to all of us.
There will be many, who follow religion who will be horrified
when they find out who Jesus is. It reminded me of the
Revelations verse wailing and gnashing of teeth when they find
out the choice they have made.. You see wanting Jesus and
wanting to keep the Monetary system is choosing Lilith,
subconsciously. No worries. That isnt going to happen that way.
What Father has done is return the Creation to an earlier point. All
the home worlds have been restored and are now ready for those
leaving here to return to them. You see many deaths in the news, and
these are being divided up each to their own home world where they
originated.
Word came yesterday, from a friend who is on the clean up crew, that
the World of the Dragons has been restored, and is absolutely
spectacular for those dragons among you here, that read this. There is
no war, we are all co-operating with each other again and we are all
friends again. Such is the power of Love, and our Fathers love of us
all.
They said we are all made new, no hang ups, or illnesses, mental or
otherwise (thinking of Charlie Sheen). Humanity has won its place, but

the reptile brain which was the source of Sociopathic behaviors will be
removed and the normal man mammal brain will be restored. In fact
that is already going on for those who have left early, via death.
No, we are not going to die, here on Earth. But there will be a
transformation. Literally. What we have been taught is the
Magnetic field protecting Earth is in reality the NET of Ra, and
this will be taken down. It is what provides the blue screen that
they use to project whatever image they want on there.
The sky is to be a soft yellow transparency, but unlike any yellow
weve ever seen before. Every Energy wave length has a color
associated with it. What Father has done is create a new color, a new
energy. The parasitic nature of these organisms that were attaching to
our Base chakras will no longer be able to attach themselves to us
due to the new energy wavelength we will be at. It is my
understanding this is mere weeks away, not months. But, time is a
Construct here, so Im not sure of that translation.
I miss all of you so very much. But until I can remove the last of the
interference with my CPU, phone, DSL, etc. Its almost impossible for
me to get online.
Until then, Much Love to you all at DTV,
Oldsoul

Zer0 wrote:
Thanks old soul... I been waiting a long time for your comeback! Glad
to see you still exist in this realm!

Heart wrote:
I am so glad you touched base..So good to see you oldsoul we were
just lifting you up strongly the other day! So happy you see you post!
Come to chat when you can!

Cornbread714 wrote: Aw, Heart shows up within minutes of OldSoul

again.
It's like I'm at a family reunion. Not the Snake family, of course, but is
that a salamander I see in the potato salad?

Sunny4u wrote: yay! thank you oldsoul for taking the trouble to post in
spite of all of the opposition! i was so hoping you would. thank you for
the good news too. looking forward with cautious optimism to the
change!!
grateful that you are still in this dimension. much love, sunny

Cornbread714 wrote:
Yeah, people are just showing up out of the blue (who never post here
normally) within minutes to back you up, Oldsoul - it's amazing!!
What a coincidence!

Heart wrote:
Ah Corn Im happy to see you too lol.....of course I am always
watchful for oldsoul,it took a long time to get me logged back into dtv
had some problems awhile back...they lasted it seemed forever &

nothing seemed to work it out...otoel & I were hoping together for her
return! Stoked she is posting!...take care dear ones..

Cornbread714 wrote:
Happy days are here again!

Oldsoul: Miracle of miracles...I got on!

LMAO, that reversal spell really does work! Wonder how long I can
stay on though? hmmm, DSL light is solid...I really had to laugh. For
weeks, and I do mean Weeks, the SBC people have been out here
(because I wouldn't let up:) to fix the line. They know there is a
short...but cant find it. It really honestly never occurred to me...even
after all that I've found out...that it was a bona fide 'curse'! Those
repairmen were really getting upset too. Well, they are still scheduled
to come out again because the DSL doesn't stay on long. However,
I'm impressed it is on at all. According to the 'motorola modem' I'm not
even connected!
I did miss all of you :) I hope there was plenty of mayhem in the PTB
to talk about. I had to laugh when Homeland Security went and put a
seizure on the banks...looking for gold. Lmao, they cant admit
Rothschild robbed the vault and emptied it. Now you hear Clintons,
Bush's, etc are gathering "800,000" to fight the seizure of their bank
accounts. Well there are over a million in that 'Satanic' Cult, so you
see its 'snake eat snake' right now.
Hmmm...so much has happened.where to start?
Well.,.perhaps the 'Spiral Spell' is a good place. A friend found it and
after looking it over, I realized all those 'spiral' cave drawings with
the pics of different races of Anunnaki were in fact reversal spells

against the Annu! Did you know that in the "B.C./A.D." dating
abbreviations, "A.D." is NOT after descent as we were told. Its Latin
term is "Anno Domini" which is "Anunnaki Owl Domination"!
Place yourself in a sphere of protection, Light a candle, take a
piece of paper and write down what was done to you. Messing
with utility bills (unusually high bills, due sooner than normal,
ect) Altering your mind, cording you, all these things...traffic
tickets..all is the 'smith' and the El. Name the Name of who is
doing this to you, Judge, Police, El, Net, whatever....
Take another piece of paper, and start drawing a spiral, Exactly
like the cave drawings, with enough room to trace back over it
the opposite way. Do not lift the pencil (pencil is lead, and this
metal is better than an ink pen) And as you draw the spiral going
INward, name these things out loud. Put as much Emotion into it
as you can, yell, scream if you wish.
Then get to the center and dont lift the pencil, but say "I reverse
these things back on (whomever did them)" and start the trace
back on the spiral and rename all that You want in your life. For
instance "I see myself free of the police, tickets...", "I take back
my power...", naming it all the way back to the spirals end.
Then, tear the paper with the spiral on it, get the whole spiral, and
burn it. All the way to ash, use a cauldron or ashtray, I used the
bbq pit sitting right next to me :) Then the ashtray when I was
inside.
I think everyone should do this! It drives them nuts on the other
side *grin* and if you do 'vows' it frees you from the
subconscious vows you don't realize you've given the owl.
This was sent to me, in a better than I've given, description and
instructions. I cant find the mail that had it to copy paste here, it came
while everything was still completely down. When I relocate it, I'll post

it and the site it came from. It really seems to be helping enormously.

Father is doing what he can to set people who are unwittingly favoring
the owl by their 'religions', but it really is stronger if it comes from the
individual first.
"Federal" the word that they hid, is two parts ..."Fe" is "Fee to an
Administrator, usually Land" and "der" is due, and "al" ...'al, il, and el'
are all Latin suffixes for the "Deity El"...the Greys. The second brake
down is "Feder" which is Blood kin, and 'al' ..bloodkin of the El. So this
was a Roman Latin Legal Notice a "Claim of Divine Right" and this
was granted to Cleo-Selene to form the Cult of El with the lower class
relatives. This is the 'Satanic' Cult of the Babylonian Slave Queen
Selene.
When the Anunnaki bestowed 'god head' they gave the person horns
on their head and this was given to the offspring that enslaved the
most humans. They removed and messed the dates, etc. in books, but
their greed was so great they kept the coins! So the only two coins
with horned 'royalty' and that is Alexander and Selene. In
sumerian/annu fashion, they altered her name to "Magda" Most
High, -Lene...Magdalene.
Lol, I'm so excited to be back on DTV, its a ramble above, I know. So
much to tell you:)
It appears that the PTB, and their mechanisms are dying down. They
are still, as the Cult of Enki (satan) trying to start the 'Revelations' end
of the world scenario and thats unfortunate for them. The last info I
got this week, was that the reps and el were screaming because their
'portion' of humanity was dwindling. You see, they get to keep the
ones that choose them, normally, but this time they cheated. And as I
said, it is the subconscious that is the chooser, not the conscious
mind.

So there was a hold up, trying to get past the sabotage the El did
our minds. And really, that is significant...I mean, after all that we
went through would you really leave someone you loved to the
rep families? I wouldn't!
This now, is NOT the same as the Dragon families. These are a
specific group that were criminal, and although they had Dragons, not
all dragons went along with it! Which unfortunately landed them in the
'zoo' with us.
Soon, all the Families will be visible, they are already surrounded
around Earth, waiting. So all our real families are waiting for us to
be returned to them. People parted for eons. We are the only
ones (earth) that had our powers removed and our incorruptible
body replaced/hidden from us. All this is to be returned.
I'm getting word back, slowly with things down like they are, of planets
restored and being reinhabited by the different races. The butterfly
people are returning to Venus, that is the Hopi too. The Dragon worlds
are restored and they are getting off loaded there. People are seeing
different levels, and all of it is extraordinarily beautiful. Eden will be
restored to humanity on Earth, for those that are staying.
Most of the 'Allies on the Inside' have left, via 'death' here and are
returned to their home worlds that are rejuvenated. Only a
comparable 'handful' are staying to see this to its conclusion.
Those who choose to stay stay, and the rest is leaving Earth, but
all of us will be altered...no one will ever be at '7.8 mhz' again. We
are all going 'higher' in vibration. Some do not know they are
leaving, they think that they are from Earth, having been here so
long. They will see their family members and the veil will be
lifted. As the veil is lifted, all their memories of who they are and
where they are from will be remembered. We'll see the sky and
'stars' for the first time since the NET was put over us.

Every time 'spring' starts showing, I get hopeful its 'now'. But I
don't know the 'date' here, when it happens. I still hope that its
this Spring. I don't know how much longer people will be able to
survive these insane cults.
I do know that they will be horrified to see who they were 'praying' to,
and that the phrase "Wake up to eternal shame " isn't so far off the
mark. You see, it is a merging of conscious and subconscious
minds, and where we only use 10% of our brains (having been
restricted to that by the El) we will return to using more of our
brain. It is a feeling, really, like waking up. You were foggy
headed, then 'clear' headed.
And when that happens they will remember how they helped the
Anunnaki subjugate and kill their own children. Sadly, they will
experience that 'shamed to the soul' type of feeling. Think of all the so
called 'religious' groups who 'hate..' this or that, and were willing to kill
over it. Dad feels so sorry for them that he isnt going to punish them,
their shame, exposed to the entire population will be great and he
thinks enough of a punishment. They punish themselves you see.
As for those who willingly, knowingly helped....they fear his return.
Everyone is working with GREAT urgency now, to remove the last of
the cording and bindings that hold all human beings on earth. Once
freed, they always choose mom and dad over the snake families, and
that is really how it should be. That was the promise, no one left
behind.
I found out the spiral spell hammered the reps, and reduced their
portion of humanity that is 'due' them. I wonder, what would happen if
everyone on dtv did that spell? How many could we free? I wonder if
the El would loose all their supporters, and all the power that they
stole from Mankind.

I started doing them for family members, whose minds are still corded
by the net. So this is making the El angry, but since they are now
powerless...or rather, less powerful and capable of harm....I think it is
a way to free more people.
Ah, Heart, thank you guys...all of you...so much. Yes, I 'heard' you,
thats why I tried to get on again yesterday. The more that concentrate,
the more I can 'hear' the 'call'. I was amazed to be able to get on the
cpu, after weeks, and weeks, of hang-ups and glitches.
I had been so deathly sick around Christmas through January. Never
did find out what it was. Like the phone lines, I think it was the cult
cursing. I also have another friend, who is still very ill, so we are doing
the spirals to reverse what the el did. Their day here is done. The
more people I can get to 'reclaim' their power, the more we get free
and the faster we see an end to the ptb of rothschild.

Heart,
I saw your post about the eq's shuddering the planet.
The Planet normally rotates, and this opens the doorway that is
specifically the 'door of mankind'. What the Nephli of hollow earth did,
was force the Earth back to the current polar position, and that kept
their door OPEN, (hollow earth) and our door closed. And this is
represented on Hapgood's map of the last pole shifts.
The PTB were saying that the Pole shift would happen on "March
15th" which is days away. That is why the 'Agency' was looking for the
doors on the equator. When the rotation occurs the door on the 'top' is
then on the Equator.
The Nephli planned to escape. They are responsible for every bit of
what was done to us. They knew the reps were eating us, they helped
enslave us for the reps. So they fear retribution. Don't tell them thats

not going to happen;) let them worry abit. They have had 23 thousand
years of Luxury and easy living while forcing us to dwell in their
created cataclysms. They deserve to worry about what mankind will
do to them when we wake up, become aware of them, and have our
powers return!
Good, tell everyone about the spiral. Tell them to do it, if only just
once! It was hard enough getting on this forum, I wont try portal till
later :)

bleever wrote:
Hey OldSoul...so good to hear from you. I am happy to hear you are
feeling better and it seems you have a solid plan to get rid of these
bad influences out of your life...I have sent you positive thoughts from
time to time during your absence here at DTV. I hope they have
received you well.
Oldsoul: Hi Bleever, I must have got them well, because I did get
better:) Thank you. I hope you've been well too? Yes, a plan of action.
Most of the El are gone, just those dug in like ticks. The reps are all
gone (owl) but their tech is still here and this makes it look like they
are still here and still active. So hammer them all.
Some friends sent me a message, some weeks ago. They said that
during the course of their astral work they had contact with the
peoples of the future. This was done by 'inviting' the 'people from
the future' to make contact. According to them, they are free, we
won and earth as well as all of Creation are well and happy now.
Freedom is ours now. This will never happen again, no more will
our histories be erased and re-written to mislead people and
school children. They put up a museum, dedicated to the
'Heroes' who agreed to be born into this place to free it. And it

shows all the fights, and all the things that we ALL did to free
Earth from the Agents and Families of SET.

Oldsoul: Heart, thank you, that was sweet:)

I'm a woman, and I'm past 50....and you're lucky I even admitted that
age in print *grin* Pigeon posting is a Very messy business! Hahaha

The way I understand it, the more people who do the spiral, the more
'yelling' is heard above. And this acts like a 'request to ONE'. So
everyone we can get to do it, even if they do it only once, is more
weight added to the 'request' of mankind to have our power restored
and our freedom. Even though we've officially won, there are still
many who are 'vowed' to stay with the Snake families.
So even if you are a 'reptile' in the human form, you STILL have a
choice, and can choose to go with Eve mother of us all rather than the
Snake families. This doesn't mean you lose your family. It means that
you choose freedom, rather than the draconian law of the Snake
family of Set.
The people that are the real culprits, the 'satanic' groups are the
people that appear to be 'upright citizens' and the people who have
been harmed, are really noticeable.
People like Evelyn Rothschild, and Kissinger, and others....knew. They
knew 'satan' was Enki, they knew they were syphoning off the human
populations life force by occult methods. They infiltrated and took over
every part of the government, not just here, but worldwide. That 5
pointed star on all the flags, that is Inannas star.
And they committed murder, and mass human sacrifice to this end.
The people who think they did not do 9/11 are really far off. Evelyn got

married and had his honeymoon on the tower close to the Twin towers
so he and his bride could watch all those people die...while they
watched, in Luxury suites as a form of entertainment.
It is no co-incidence that Edmond (evelyn's father) Rothschild died on
the same day as the Satanic occult leader Anton LaVey, in fact they
died within HOURS of each other. And this is due to the Blood Pact
they made..together..to serve 'Satan' the humanity in America.
These people have one or two places to go. With the Anunnaki, or into
the Pit. No escape.

So you had the same problem? hahaha, they never do anything 'new'
it is always the same ole tricks.
Time is a Construct due to the 'Zodiac' system of Time we were placed
in. If you go to 'google earth' and look at the 'sky map' you find
yourself in a sort of bubble, and that is exactly what it is.
There were doors that opened at a regular schedule. These were
closed by the Anunnaki, the "Ankh" is the center symbol of the
Zodiac which is the East/West-North/South doors. The Nephli are
at the top where it is 'looped' and their door is kept open.
So MUCH did they do, cataclysm after cataclysm. It cant be told on
one reply!
I'm not sure when the "Eve Ent(er)" is. Our time is manipulated, but
above, its always the month of "May" when we get out.
I personally am hoping it is this May, or April, heck...I'd take
'tomorrow' if I could get it! REALLY excited to see everyone free
of the Federals, the Tax, the Money, the ....SLAVERY. No more
food shortages, no more work till you get old and die of it. No

more STRESS, of this hard core draconian Law forced on us

every day!
I think that they are not so much going to 'wipe' our minds, as make all
the trauma seem faded and no longer hurtful. It was done, we lived
through it, and now it will be forever gone.
The Earth would rotate to open the doors, and that was how we came
and went. However, this is different. These doors were due to our
location...inside the Zodiac system.
We are being Lifted out of the Zodiac system of time completely.
So I don't think that the rotation will occur, it isn't necessary. What is
necessary, is that all the 'seeds' that they placed in the human
populations are removed before we are lifted to the higher plane,
which is returning Earth to its original location in the plane of Creation.
The seeding of the population was Lilith/Inanna's doing. That is
what "Ascension" is, just another name for the "shining ones"
which are Liliths.
I know there is a great amount of urgency now, felt by those above, to
get this finished. Not too sure about what is planned, and can only
report of what I've heard.
What I heard, is that 'all life' would be pulled from this Earth, and that
includes the spirit of Earth, and all life forms on it who belong to the
Divine Couple.
Now Lilith created lifeforms too...she is called the "Mother of
abominations and the Worms of the Earth."
Initially, I was told that people who knew...like Rothschild...and these
other life forms of Lilith/Inanna like the seeds...would be left behind.
And that the shell of matter with those still on it, which is Tiamatts and
SET's Creation would be destroyed.

The 'shift' is supposedly natural. Like changing a radio dial, to get a

different station. We shift completely out of this place, into the Earth/
Eden that is above us. Blending. No trauma...well, except for the veil
lifting, and that apparently is anticipated and they are going to heal
those people so that the trauma isn't so bad.
I really haven't been online since Dec..very few times did the cpu open
for me. And you know, tv news is 'entertaiment' not real news...so I
haven't heard whats going on in the port of china. What is happening?
What I do know is that the cult of Enki called the Black Dragon,
changed their names to the 'white' dragon and are in a fight with
the cult of Selene (Rothschild) over the stolen securities.
They aren't the good guys, they're just another Anunnaki cult fighting
for power and world domination. both will fail.
The Gulf of Aden is a bit exciting at the moment as well. That portal
they opened to invade by motherships is being offset by the Sun. The
sun is Helping us, deliberately, and consciously, helping. He is
opening a portal around the entire planet every 8 minutes! Bigger than
the whole planet, this portal....and that is keeping the doors shut on
the Planet.
This was keeping the Anunnaki out, and the Cults trapped like RATS!
They deserve it. Now the Anunnaki are contained. So I'm thinking,
that they will enter After we leave, and right before this shell is
destroyed. They were trying to set off the sun, that was what the
'scheduled' destruction was this time. They may do this AFTER
we are gone!
Sorry I got bumped off for a moment. Of courseit didn't go
smoothly...grrr...going to do more spirals on the 'garden' problem. I did
call for help, though, and within seconds, the problem resolved itself.
which makes me wonder if doing the spiral mentally also works,
maybe without as much power, but it works.

As for the rest, thats about as much as I know at the moment.

We are all waiting. There are Hundreds of Mother ships, Arks,
surrounding earth now. All Allied ships. All waiting for us to
moved, so that there can be 'The Gathering'. And as I said, that is
a BIG party with Eve. Its her day, the one time that all the Families
get together at a Family reunion.
Many people are going to be really surprised, when their memories
return and they find out what their real names are. So many will be
surprised that they are Not from Earth at all, although they are
Mankind. Others will be even more surprised when they see their real
face and form for the first time, and find out they ARENT mankind
*grin*.
So many, whom the Reptilian society called 'worthless' are in fact the
highest skilled. And those whom the reps placed in power are some of
the Lowest, and I mean that Both ways! They were Never any good,
anywhere.
So hold tight, the last of this 'ride' is almost at the end. And that
is the 'shift' when the Net is removed and the real yellow
transparent sky is seen.
You know, out watering the garden, I was thinking "god, I'll be SO glad
to get rid of the chiggers, fleas, flies, and fire ants!
You have to laugh at the reptilian Queen of England, who's
snobbery led her to tell people that the royal emblem she wears
is a 'bee'. Amun is 'Lord of the Flies' because he is a carrion
eater. Which is why dad called him in disgust, a 'scab eater'. He is
a reptile that eats rotted dead bodies, hence the flies around his eyes.
Some one once asked 'why Amun was shown in glyphs crying flies'.
Thats why.

I thought I'd share what I found out this way...if I can stay on...if I
suddenly drop off in the middle of the subject you know I got
disconnected!!

At the End of Each cycle, we went through a Gathering, and then a

Renewal. Those who wanted to continue with their incarnation game
here were cleaned up, and put back onto the new world under the veil
with memories to explain...as if they had never left.
At the end of the Grand Cycle anyone who had gotten 'stuck' and
couldn't 'earn' their way back out of the system, was allowed at
that time to leave without 'penalty'. No 'karma' or anything else
would weigh them. They went back to their home worlds and
families.
There is a very interesting youtube, called 'return of the Nephilheim'
and in that story they remembered that people went underground..and
got new bodies!...and when they came back to the surface people
called it 'reanimating' these people, they were called the
"Nephilheim"....
What this group had done, was steal the 'key' that controlled the
system. Locked us in, but they personally went through the
Renewal. If you look at the 'Anunnaki Family Tree' that is posted
many places, everyone says the same thing.....some always
recognizes a duplicate name, such as I did with SET..from Apsu
to Anu, An.
What the Author of the 'Family Tree' failed to know was the Renewal
Cycle, and the Law of Worlds.
Every time they went through 'renewal' they had a new name in each
new 'world'. This is represented in the bible when he says he'll 'give
you a new name'... that no one else will know.

So in the beginning, It was SET, then the 1st World Apsu, 2nd
World Anu, 3rd World An....I laughed....it seemed to me that SET
was paying penalties for his 'fall' by the loss of a letter in Each
World!
Once I lined up the 'tree' that way, I came up with four main
charaters...Enlil, Enki, and the Fraternal Twins Lilith and Utu
The El were there too.
The clue was the same story repeating, and the '300' year gaps
between each of them. I think that when Elder Theopolis revolted
around '390 A.D.' is when they altered the time lines. "Sarapis" was
the imposed 'god' at the time, and this is another name for "Hades".
There is the "Ptolemy" line...but it isn't spaced out or individual as
given in our current history. The Osiris story Repeats..with "Cleopatra
and Marc Anthony"
It was the same people, and it repeated in AD, they moved it further
back in time and separated the individuals. This was the "Osiris"
story...and it was supposedly Inanna's and Utu's first born Nephilheim
as 'Selene' the Babylonian Slave queen...and her twin brother "Syn"
they all got their 'god heads'...Apollo is Alexander, the twins were
Selene the moon goddess (Hecate) Syn the moon god....Selene
married each of the Brothers in turn.
'Ceasarion' Jesus...she was the 'Magda' Lene, "Most High" when they
wrote the 'books' they altered some things...but they left the coins in
circulation. 'Magdalene' was young in that story, while 'Queen Selene'
was shown as old...So I think that after fleeing to 'France' with 'Jesus'
she went back and married the pharaoh twin, and then Babylon
happened.
I had wondered how the Moscow people remembered who the cult of
Selene was... but if it was around 400 AD and the revolt was in 1580

Moscow, then the books were still there and people still remembered
because it wasn't that long ago in our history. In some places on the
current Timeline I found 600 year gaps.
It is just one big Time Loop, with the same story over and over.
No wonder everyone feels so TIRED! haha
We are not supposed to set a 'time' on this thing that is about to
happen, because time is manipulated. The constant disappointment is
crushing to morale!
Above, they have been heckling and bartering for each of us...who
gets to keep whom. There is supposed to be no 'due' penalties, but I
have heard that it has been used on some. Later I heard that the new
Law had been Created over those vows...they have gotten nearly
everyone on the planet to take a vow of service to the Family of SET
and it was all without conscious knowledge or consent.
So...slowly...we have whittled down the balance of LIFE that SET gets
to keep. And now those clans are hollering about losing their 'portion'.
They had cheated and sealed those of the Family of Eve, who had
unknowingly taken vows or had been out right lied to ..."I'm your
Family" Etc...to gain consent for that individual to do that branch
Service. They had no idea, they were promising their LIFE Force to
the Family branches of SET.
There is such a thing as a 'Fair Knock' when talking about the
'Subconscious knock'. This is to allow the Service to Self and the
Service to Others...your subconscious choice. This is Allowed to let
the weight of your soul chose its path freely. However when you are
approached, and directly lied to, that is not a 'fair knock'.

We are taught that when we feel like 'Time flies'...and you look down
at a calendar and say ..'wow, I didn't know that many days had
passes'...or when it slows
And you say "Will this day NEVER end"...that it is our 'imagination' or
that we were busy, and didn't notice.
But the truth is that is the tampering of the time...and its 'loops'. I
heard Iraq had its own 'loop', for instance there was much of the
'replay' of Viet Nam going on there while they had control. Its being
untangled but we wont really have to wait for it.
In the 'Web Bot' predictions, by Cliff High...I read there is a gap that he
couldn't explain, and then a resumption of dialog. I think there are
those who choose to come back into the incarnation and veil....and
that it resumes there. Not too sure, thats a guess....it just read so
weirdly at the time. People don't even mention there was a several
week period where it appears everyone on the planet and all
electronics were down and not on at all.
Then they resume lifting the veil for those people...from the way the
dialog reads...the PTB who were so horrific and slaughtering start
disappearing in crowds surrounded by security...
and piece by piece it will unfold, until they go to the Vatican and tear
into that Library and find the documentation...you see it is their own
law that all of it is recorded with ink paper and signatures.
I believe the Event might be in April and if so, I'll be leaving right
before it...or at that time.

otoel wrote:
Hey Old Soul could you perhaps provide a picture depicting this
Selene character?

Sounds intriguing.....
Oldsoul: yeah, I've got them on the cpu, I was going to do the next
one..but rather tired--well---thats putting it mildly.
google 'images' ARSINOE II , THAT is her Greek name, they removed
'selene' which is the babylonian translation. You can see her 'horns' on
the coins.
the later coins show her with the twin..they were horrors
this is who philidelphia state was named after, and that used to be
known..what wasn't widely known was that the orgies at the Temple
Ziggurat were so ...horrific...they coined the word 'pedophile' after
ptolemy!

I had selected some pictures out and labeled them in paint for
peopleto use on the next part of the time system. What I know is
that the War objective was to 'alter the path' of manthat is what the
rotation of the swastika was doing...I'll have to show you the picture.
Tiamatt created Matter, and this is the 'Realm' that SET and Tiamatt
created together. And it Follows Al-Chemy, with 'birth' 'decay' and
'death' in a cycle.
I think that they are pulling down the system completely ...in this area.
Because it is broken now, as you said.
And it gets destroyed with the shell of matter that is the 'old'
earth...thats at least what they had been doing in the realm of matter
at the end of the cycle when they moved us 'into the new world' and
the 'old world fell away'
The 'belt' was totally movable...look on 'Google Earth' and select the
'sky'. They made it a complete interior bubble look with grid
lines......because it is a Round Net and those lines are the energy

lines of the net. Thats why the 'number' systems work..the I Ching
should be about wound down now...'Time' is leaving...basically:)
I don't think that any civilizations or peoples are destroyed, except
those that the World of Matter rulers 'Set' choose to 'cast off' family
members...into the Pit. Which as I've said is an Alchemy pit of
calcination. That is how they set up their Realm.

Oldsoul: I'm not too sure, but it looks like I will be leaving soon. Might
be this next week. You know I thought that cult 'heavens gate' was
crazy...killing themselves...well that happens all the time. But to kill
yourself because you think you're going to catch a ship above
you...well thats just INSANE...
Wellcould be the jokes on me.
There is a ship above me, lmao. Waiting, I'm told, for me to leave and
join them. hahaha, how nuts can it get? well...pretty darn crazy, thats
for sure. Said I was to wait, until it was all done with...on the ship.
The group that is after my land has pulled another maneuver. I am
going to fight of course...thing is, according to above...I die in the
battle. Thats this next few weeks. Well, they've told me I would die in
the spring, for a while now. Hasn't happened. Aneurism...sorry ..typing
in the dark...
Anyway..tonight I have pressure in my head, blurred vision, and numb
lips...dizzy too. When I asked about it, I was told it was the preparation
for my leaving this next week....Supposedly, aneurisms are fast and
painless...of course, I dont know how they know that since no ones
ever come back to tell them!!
But..its gone on for hours...this pain in the head...so I got worried that I
wouldnt be able to tell you all how much I loved you and to say good
bye.

So I logged on. I will be here apparently long enough to get the Notice
of Understanding and Intent out...and I promise to log on tomorrow.
love to you all
oldsoul

Oldsoul: The Zodiac created the number systems. The number

systems tie into ' i ching ' ' tarot ' '7 day week ' ' chakra system ' and all
the rotations and speeds of the stellar bodies that we WERE using.
There will be 'Time no More' for some...so that system is ending for
ALL, and Then...when we split....it is possible that the correctly
working system will be put in place for that group/groups.
It is really hard...I have trouble too...understanding the sheer
scope of what they did to us. We are like Mengala's children by
comparison to ALL other Life! Shame on them, it makes me cry.
They put the Reptile Brain AND the Chakra system in us...the
Kundalini is what they were attempting to raise within a 'host'.
Think "Predator Parasite". Lilith 'seeded' the Human
Population...all of us, down to the babies, the cats, dogs,
everything. This ate the real person born to the body that is a
vehicle---from the inside out, leaving the entity sole possessor of
the shell of the vehicle body. They needed a 'host' body to take
them through the barrier...to live again.
That is the origin of the Gargoyle in the Denver Airport, looking
surprised as he is caught out, hiding in the "Suit Case"...*grin* snake
humor.....the higher in 'professions' you are...wearing suits*grin*...the
more of the entrainment you have received to make that seed
grow...they were turning the 'professionals' into sociopaths via

entrainment to service to self. Which allowed the seed to grow far

more quickly.
Your body is a "Case" ...a solid piece, a vehicle.
ArchAngel Michaelwho is El...was over the chakra system. They
were siphoning us off, and built those in as a direct access port.
Lol, I just got an image of that Matrix guy, Neo, with the ports running
up the back of his spine and to the head. But, energetically speaking,
that's what they did. Of course, I say energetically...but on the level
above, where things are solid with that energy ...I hear there were in
fact physical attachments on the people. And this is also spoken of
with the 'Dreams' ...which were not dreams*grin* gets confusing, but
the point is...it seems that this translates all the way up. We like to
think that we are seperate...we dont see our spirit after all....but it is
apparently visible and solid in other realms.
Ha..can you believe? Its STILL downloading! It might be awhile before
I actually get to see it and be able to have a conversation on the
subject!!
Forgot to mention...thats what is taking so long. The seeds have
to be destroyed...all of them. Before they let the net down.... the
families...ALL of them...are just on the other side of the NET. All
Allied, or Under the Law of One by virtue of having Won the War.
We are at a VERY High frequency now. The Entire Planet is Lit
up...shining bright in space...

I was told the negative life forms, couldn't withstand the high
frequency. I guess thats true.
Not only is 'space' completely infiltrated the Higher Vibrational
frequency, but the barrier is lit with it. That dying Magnetosphere is the

Net. I couldn't figure out for the longest time...how do we survive

without magnetic shielding from the sun??? I could only think 'death'.
It took me forever, it seems, to grasp that they had lied about what
was beyond that holographic sky...and that they could actually
produce those things to deliberately mislead as to the Nature of the
Bodies Next to us in 'space'. And by Nature, I mean
composition...what it is really made of...
It took awhile to understand, they could make 'stellar bodies' or move,
stop, alter them...at will....and that is why we thought they were gods.
UNTIL you finally catch on....the whole damn thing is a
HOLOGRAM! LMAO...a Big movie screen...and the 'sky' is a 'blue
screen' that they can insert 3 dimensional imaging onto! After
all...we're their 'Zoo'..their playground.
I think that there are those who have chosen to go back under the
veil...after the party *grin*...so they wont even consciously remember
the party...(I think thats wrong, why not let them remember?)
And they will be put on a World, with EXACTLY what they 'remember'
it being as *grin* Thats the Veil for you...altered memories! However,
that is a free choice, not forced on them...they choose it because as a
Spirit there was more to learn on that path. However...there will be no
more interference in those lessons, and when they leave that 'life'
time...they will still be free, no more 'heaven hell' deceptions, they will
be able to go directly home---and go back out to play again! If they
choose!
Then of course you have the Snake Families. Who are left to SET to
continue....as Service to Self, which is the Sociopath trait we
recognized in our society. They cant play fair with anyone. So they
are going to be left by themselves, and they can play 'predator' 'prey'
games with their own people....they are hierarchical, so ...there will be
those of Service to Self...'suits' ...who become the prey, and those that
will become the predator. I guess they play that out until they learn.

There are 6 billion people, in fact MORE than that on the planet. And
out of that, you maybe have...1% ? or less who are the true
Sociopaths of the Family of SET.

I've been watching the El trying to escape...they flew up and hit that
Barrier of High Vibration...and they just popped, like pop corn on it...or
a big bug zapper *grin*

I had a run in with the Ba'el here, near my house. They were dug in
like ticks.... under the crust of the planet between the 5 and 20 mile
strata.
So they are starving and surfacing...they made a run for it and
failed...and now they are dying underground. But their Covens and
their leaders are still causing a problem on the surface. And that is
what you see with Japan. That is what is taking extra time as well. I
don't think it is the physical presence of El and Ba'el..etc....I think it
has to do with the Seeds. They were horrified by these things, and of
course, we cant see or feel them, but our bodies were loaded with
them.
We can hear them internally though, and I know that they can 'reply' to
you...and it works in Reverse Speech too.....
I also know that some of the seeds were 'special' ...perhaps more like
a 'queen' of a species ?
And that these had to be removed by Surgery...brain surgery
specifically.

We found people...in their graves, having died....who were 'lost'. It

seems that the entrainment to the religions were the source of the
problem.
They just would not let go of 'Jesus' and the 'bible'....so they were
more like........mmmm, how to say it.
They were 'blind' and they were 'bound'...tied up...as a Spirit, in the
ground, and they wouldn't listen to anyone who was trying to tell them
that they were free to get up and leave that 'grave' area, to go
home...they insisted on 'Jesus' and that they had 'sinned' etc...waiting
for jesus
We really had to have help with those people...I'm not sure if they
could all be rescued in fact. And that one did me in for days. I felt
really bad for them...their loss. It was like speaking to a robotic
reply...they were so insistent about 'Jesus' and they were staying
Right There!
It has to do with the subconscious/consciousthat is what I was trying
to find the words for!
So I know that they were working on these people...and that this was
specifically the mind control that was put on the subconscious and
somehow 'bound' it. Sort of like the Elephant on the rope. They train
Elephants from a young age by tying the foot to a post with a
rope...'only so far'...then years later, when the rope is remove, the
Elephant stays because he actually thinks he is still tied.
So they are trying to break through the mind control on these people
and trying to untangle their minds so that they can move forward with
all of us.
I know that this particular 'shell' we call Earth will be destroyed. But
that is after all life, including the spirit of earth are moved....then, it is
just a shell, empty.

All the trees, animals, etc...move too, and will be safely with us.
Since all of it is created with thought, I presume that the builds and
things that we remember, are what we see when we move.
There was someone, I cant remember who, that said our mental state
at the time of the move is where we landed in the 'shift'.
But its my understanding that the Gathering comes first...I just dont
know if the shift occurs allowing the 'veil' choosers to be moved
without ever knowing. I do know that the law is 'all Men go Up'...and
that even the people who choose the veil will NEVER be at this low
level again. In other words, not only will they be physically altered in
ways, they will also be mentally altered. And the societal problems of
the Reptile brain traits will be over.
You know it was the Yahweh prophets I noticed the most..popping up
in the US and in the Middle East...and recently there is this guy who
says the Rapture is in May, and has posted signs for it.
But it really is hard to understand...Time is manipulated here. Every
time you would like to set a 'date' for this, it is altered. Part of the
System..and this is Reps like Yahweh.
That isn't his real name though.
Anyway....There are still 'reb-El's' that are being picked up. And this is
who is getting to these people who are open to them because they
have been entrained that this is 'god'...multiple lifetimes of
entrainment.
There are also those "Owl" and El, who have possessed Human
Bodies. And the Host is still alive inside some, and screaming for help.
That was heard on one of the broadcast ....of these people who are
suddenly 'speaking nonsense' on the tv broadcasts. I cant remember
off hand which one it was, but it was a blonde women, here recently.

For the most part though, those journalists are experiencing the
breakdown of this 'system' we are in and that is the Universal Mind
that they are speaking. Sounds like nonsense until you figure it out
and get used to it. That I think will continue to happen and more
visibly...part of getting the hard core people turned around. They have
to understand the trick that was played on them, and that comes with
contact with the Universal Mind. Then..You KNOW....
So there are still 'players' in the game here, that are messing with
people. And you know...they told me I would die, and I'm still here:)
so...NOT yet *grin*
So If I do die, it will be 'whenever' and when we do lift the NET it will
be 'whenever'.
That 'knowing' will be there for everyone then. Sadly...they are trying
very hard, and in fact are NERVOUS at having to tell you what was
done to you. So they decided to lift the veil a little more slowly, and to
prep you. Which I think has been what the last year has been about.
Now, from what I understand, everyone has been contacted via the
Subconscious Knock, and has been Sealed.
They were dwindling down SET's share, you see, because of what
was done to the subconscious to make these people sociopaths and
choose SET (Service to Self)
Thats when the new law was made about 'no one is bound by an oath
blindly given' was madewhich dropped their 'share' considerably.
And his incarnates are the ones that keep popping up with the rapture,
revelations, etc. They are attempting to fullfill his wish, and they are in
tune with what he wishes because of their connection via spirit to him.

kkris wrote:

You, the soul, are captive within a body, a body that facilitates desires.
As long as you wish to fulfill desires that are Earthly, then you don't
have sufficient knowledge of, or desire for, your original eternal
spiritual home. You are not held captive by snake families, but your
desires and unfulfilled desires at the time of death. The desires
enjoyed and the desires that remain at the time of death determine an
appropriate body with it's appropriate sense configuration for your next
body. You do not die, the bodies die, you transfer, until such time as
you reach a point of awareness of the soul, whereby you may reach a
point of harmony with the original universe of the soul, where you are
eternally a unique spirit soul, part and parcel of the supersoul, who is
also unique.
Oldsoul wrote:
"Fulfill Desires that are Earthly"...and "not held captive by snake
families, but your desires and unfulfilled desires at the time of death"
This is not true. These are garnered threads of the religions that SET
Created.
First off, there was a War, and it was an actual and physical
war...hence the capture by the Snake Families.
Secondly, Your Fulfilling your Earthly desires...is what being in the
Creation is all about. The Bible and other teachings use the words
'Earthly Desires' to imply something 'bad' as in 'sinful'. You are
born to Experience.
Sex is a Fantastic Gift to Life, enjoy it with the one you Love, just
don't abuse the privilege! 'Earthly desires' do not stop just because
you leave this world...because you don't stop. There are no
sanctimonious holy people in the real Worlds of the Creation,
with the exception of SET's Line, who CREATED the Concept!

The only 'sin' is when something is 'done deliberately to harm.

Everything else is a part of the 'living experience' - even mistakes. So
if you drink, don't get drunk or abuse the drink...that is deliberate harm
to yourself, you see? However, I dont think that that is going to be
very much of a problem soon. I think that the move up, in
vibration...which raises the consciousness and intelligence level...will
fix those similar problems of substance abuse.
Your 'gift' to the Creator, is your Individuality. Your Experience.
And this is gained from you by continuous subconscious or
conscious contact with the Universal Mind.

I dont know why, but apparently my 'group'...'5' we say...are the

only ones to have woken and became active in the day as well as
at night. And..we all met online one day! So we recognized each
other...and the adventure began. We were told that was not just
unusual..but really, unheard of. Maybe it was due to the War
situation...I don't know. But for whatever reason, we started
Consciously working at this in the day as well as during the sleep
period..which is when everyone else was working usually.
And out of 5 only 3 actually continue to be active, because of the
severity of attacks. On family, pets, bills, house...there isn't
anything that they wont go after to knock you out of the game.
..Dads favorite chemist, myself and 'V' who is queen of rs, who
lmao ...was a giant the other night. We all saw each other,
remembered, and then mailed laughing about it. No one else seems to
have done that before...at least thats what we keep being told:)
So, I am very happy to have had the privilege. And it didn't stop...I
came here next. I have met many allies on the inside..unknowing..the
veil unlifted yet...here at DTV.

I have to admit though, its taken a physical toll on all of us. We

were already...afflicted...the reps found us young, and never let
up. D has CFS, and her heart stops. She has to lay down to equalize
the pressure. Which is why she's the best at astral travel She has a
mind like a steel trap...photographic memory. And she remembers
every little detail in the astral, were as most aren't able to retain it
when they 'wake' from the trance.
V has diabetes, and she risks comas like you breathe air...lately. The
money is gone and they denied her shots...phew...worried us on that
one till it got straightened out for her. She has the talent of the
Universal Mind. lol
I don't know what my talent is *grin*...speed bump for the other two? I
'see' things awake as well as asleep. In fact lately I've been going too
far to retain much memory of the night travels anymore. But awake...I
can do the same things actively awake that most seem to only do
when their asleep. I fight the El awake and Asleep. D wrote the other
day. The El had gotten in and she called for help. I showed upand
she said I tore them up but it was such a flood of them that she
conjured a flame thrower and handed it to me*grin* said she just sat
on the bed wide eyed while mayhem ensued. I laughed at her for
that..what...no help? she said I looked like I had it ..er..under control !!
hahahaha
Of course, I cant remember any more than bits and pieces ....asleep !
Awake, I can see and remember and actively do these things....

(Oldsoul - this post is from April 2011 so you can see what
timeframe shes talking about -- she started posting in June 2010)
So I got some interesting emails, the last couple of days.

One is the sight of a city rising from the ocean. All sparkling and
crystal spires. And we're wondering if thats Atlantis rising. Off the Gulf
of Mexico..in fact REALLY close ..when looking at maps its like an
inch? from the coast...hahaha..thats my map knowledge..squat on
measuring distance from 'sight' to 'map distances'.
But curiously, if we can see it rising Above, that means that it will
translate here too.
So apparently we've breached the planes. The Vibration Rate is Right.
The Axis is altered to the Right position. And all they are doing now is
the clean up in prep to taking down the NET.
They are worried about telling you the truth of what has been done to
you. Moving to the fifth world is not normally traumatizing. But you see
when the veil is lifted this time...everyone is going to remember their
own deaths and clonings. And it wasnt done kindly, these are insane
sociopaths. And how do they tell all the Jesus people that this was a
member of that Horrific group? not some kind person as they read
about?
And giving up the money system...some of the people I've talked to
cant even comprehend what a society without money is. How does it
work? they asked. My son actually said 'no one would pick up the
trash then' and I recognized that line from schools.
so here's my reply : "One mans trash is another mans treasure"
Some people actually CHOOSE waste management because they
can creatively do something with that waste that every one just 'gives
away free'!
Believe it or Not, taking out the trash at that point...after all is
changed...is NOT going to be as much of a problem as you might
think.
The Law is : All Men go UP..... EVERYONE GOES UP.

Every spirit is now getting ready for the Gathering. So they are going
to get every one outed...lifting the veil for all of you. Then Drop the
NET. I thought it was to be rather slow, but I dont think so now.
Looking at the hike in the gas prices...well..I think that it might be alot
quicker than I thought. I thought a couple of years....maybe
Eve will leave first she's ready now, and I'm one of the escorts. So I
leave when she leaves, they simply yank you. I think the other two of 5
that are leaving are D and V. and I think D is going at the same time,
pretty sure of it because thats usually who people see standing beside
Eve all the time. She and I are due together because we hold the exit
route. The Key and the Map. (My Note: This is the gray area for
me as far as Rose is concerned -- I cannot either confirm or deny
that she will actually play this role as Eves escort -- most of
her information rings true to me and resonates quite deeply -- but
these kinds of statements are questionable only because I have
no idea where shes getting that kind of directive (maybe in the
astral plane? -- but apparently its what she believes so I guess
you just leave it at that.)
She also made a comment somewhere that one of the 5 was
the one who personally put Lucifer into the Pit where he was
burned to ashes - again it seems like a mighty big task for one
soul to accomplish - would be nice it if were true though since
Lucifer has been a prime troublemaker in our Realm!
More important to me is the Big Picture which I do believe she
presents alot of that clearly and concisely and I do agree with
alot of what she feels has happened here in the False Matrix and
will happen at the moment of our Liberation by our Creator and
Father. I also think she is SPOT ON in identifying the Snake
Families and that THEY are the true Rulers of the Matrix who
have been here for aeons of time.
My Note: Check out this link to see just how pervasive Snake
Worship and Snake Symbols are in every culture and religion in

the world! Its Truly Shocking!! http://

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/
sociopol_brotherhoodsnake08.htm
I think V will leave in Summer...which means the light might be then.
I thought I was not going till right before it, that I would see it. But, I
guess not. Rats.
As far as I can tell, they are going to lift the veil a bit to prepare you,
and then drop the NET. And that when the Gathering with Adam and
Eve is. Then the families part, and each goes with their family and
from there its what you decide.
I keep hearing that the younger souls want another round in the
Realm of Matter and some are choosing to go back under the veil.
And I guess, with the War over Above, that this system works correctly
after that. Not sure. I know that the Time system is broken. So
presumably they will fix everything here, as they did
above.....well...technically, you are already 'above'. The only barrier
now is the NET.
(My Note: This is a bit contradictory because earlier Rose said
that this shell of Earth would be destroyed after all the Good
Souls were taken upward -- here shes saying some would stay
here once it is fixed -- so not sure if shes just getting her
signals mixed up or keeps getting bits and pieces of information
and not the complete picture....or if maybe shes saying that this
half of Earth will also be taken out of the Eye/The Abyss and
restored in some fashion - I thought she said the 2 Earths were
merging? I guess this metaphysical aspect of The Big Shift or
Transition is difficult for any of us to accurately explain since we
are still under The Veil!)
We've seen some of the El groups trying to escape, they hit that
barrier and pop like popcorn.

sunny4u wrote:I found it similar too which is why i probably gravitated

to it. To me, in a sense, it was a confirmation of "the knock". I read "the
code to the matrix" and it snapped into place so many things for me, it
felt like remembering rather than learning and for that alone I'm
grateful but I get an "oily" feeling about the site. In spite of all of the
information that the site provides I feel like the person "sevan", who is
the most visible of the sites creators is not who he seems and I
remember reading something he had written or taped in which he says
as much, that he hadn't revealed who he is and how he came upon
such knowledge. In a few words, I don't trust him.
I had a lucid dream earlier tonight, which are happening much more
frequently in which I was in a physical battle with a young woman in
her 20's or so. There was someone else present, I couldn't see them
but I knew them. I was holding the girls head trying to keep her mouth
open I think, the other person was yelling at me to stop and saying
why are you doing that, like I had lost my mind, and I said back that
this is a lucid dream and she knows exactly why I'm doing it. I
however have no idea why I was doing it. I was interrupted by a phone
call and woke up. I remember noticing that where we were was all
white. There was nothing else I could see other than the woman. No
trees to indicate being outside and no furniture to indicate being
inside, nothing else which I've never experienced in any dream before
so I took notice of that. It felt like I had popped into someone elses
body maybe because I had no idea WTF was going on but at the
same time I did, I'm figuring it out as I'm writing this I'm sorry for the
convoluted narrative. I think I was like a passenger rather than
steering the body that was fighting the girl.
I have an EMF meter on my iPhone, not sure how they do that but it
works and the other day it jumped from 20 something to almost 3000.
Since I've been checking the normal numbers range from 30-55 or so.
They don't stay in the 20's long usually and I'd say the 40's is where it
lingers most and will jump to as high as 500 for brief periods of 2 or 3
minutes. It was during one of the high times was in the 300's or so that
a glass exploded on my hand, the bottom fell out of it. It made a very

loud pop and the bottom dropped out. When that happened I had felt a
pressure push against my chest and I had to pop my ears like when
you go up in a plane. Just had to pop them right now too.
Oldsoul, you mentioned reverse speech which I have been aware of
and doing for 8 years or so. Can you please elaborate on what you
meant earlier please? I want to share one last thing, I recorded myself
and a friend a few months back, in which I address him in a military
fashion "hello sir my name is sunny, I'm reporting for duty sir."
something to that affect, in the tone of a soldier addressing a superior
officer. He didn't respond back in the same military speak, he did later
in the same conversation, a few sentences later, "kill her. " he said it
again "kill her, the door." I have a guess as to what door he's
referencing and it is not a physical one. We don't hang out anymore.
This was a lot to share, I'm sorry for that, I feel a sense of urgency
though to do so. Oldsoul, can you shed any light on any of this please
and any input or feedback is welcomed by any reader of this thread
being you are reading this thread for a reason whatever that reason is.
Thank you oldsoul. I might sound crazy, I do to myself even at times
but I think that being able to dismiss what I used to think of as crazy is
a luxury. I am grateful, so very grateful to be able to share this time
and space with all of you which wouldn't be possible without the
bravery of oldsoul and her determination to share her knowledge.
Blessings, sunny
Oldsoul: Thats rather funny/odd...I just heard tonight that there is a
cell/axis...6...after the 3 left of the 5. Only 3 of us are left. 2 are
Escorts. 1 does the RS (reverse speech).
What I've found out is that the Axis had learned to hack the signal.
And also the 'seeds' could reply. Now...supposing all these things are
being cleaned up..all the population had been seeded and that in

particular is what must be killed off of our bodies before the NET is
drop. None of them can be allowed to go up.
At that time you wont need RS..the universal mind can be 'heard'.
There was a spate of reporters and tv media that suddenly started
talking nonsense. That was reverse speech, with the exception of one.
A woman, cant remember her name...she was possessed by the owl.
We could hear her screaming from the inside out...it has control.
sunny4u wrote: the blonde woman. they said it was from a migraine.
i'd guess it was more like a stroke. i saw it. you could totally tell in her
eyes that she was scared and wasn't digging it. i hadn't seen any
other reporters speaking in rs but i'll do a google search on it. that
sounds fascinating. what is a cell/axis? the seeds would be the other
entities that seem to come through?
there is an entity that has a scottish brogue sometimes in my rs. there
is also a black guy from the south and a few others. it was my
assumption that they were spirits stepping in and utilizing the available
vocal cords to speak to each other... but those are the seeds inside of
me? do people have more than one? because there are definitely
several different sounding voices that use my voice in rs. one of them
told me his name. i'll see if i can find the recording. listening to some
recordings from march
i also not too long ago said "hi dad". and immediately thought of this
thread. i would not have had a clue who i was saying hello to.
the seed thing does make sense though because in rs i've said some
pretty f-d up stuff that didn't relate in any way to what i was saying
forward. i have one friend in particular that there is a completely
different conversation going on in reverse that does not have anything
to do at all with what we are saying forward. 2 different people in
reverse having a different conversation. the seed thing explains a
LOT. thank you again.

otoel wrote: Wow Old Soul... take a look at this....

http://io9.com/#!5794599/haunting-new-t ... -our-skies
Oldsoul: Wow, isn't that spectacular! thanks for sharing that one:)
Funny isn't it? how it keeps translating through this 'matrix' that there
is another place like this, we called home....
Just different versions of the same sight, and it inspires these artists I
believe. I don't think that artists know they have an acute sense of
'sight'. They see the image in their minds as simply 'their imagination'
*grin*
Oldsoul (response to Sunny4u about the Anchor Woman using
Reverse Speech)
Yeah, I was just reading something else about that woman...Senene?
She had taken a bribe ...like the other anchormen...to keep quiet and
play the game. And somewhere along there she and others became
infested. Some of the others...like that guy that said 'six hundred..' that
is Reverse speech ..and that is very clear.
But that blonde woman, S., hers was babble. She was fighting from
the inside, to control her body..but the owl has her. Scary stuff if you
don't understand it is an energy exchange and then control via the
reptile brain...like an Avatar.
I have heard seeds reply. These are being cleaned out of the
population right now. None may go up, and so since we are already
up...they have to keep the NET on until its cleaned.
This is being done out of sight and conscious mind. I know that I had
an exceptional seed. Unique. A few others like me had the same. They
said that they had to do brain surgery on me to get it out. You have to
'clean' your body regularly every day.

USING DADS ARSENIC TO KILL THE SNAKES SEEDS IN YOUR

ASTRAL BODY:
The way to do it is this: Focus on seeing your whole body as an
outline...feel it...see it
View it as an empty container, just a shell ....and then say "Fill with
Dad's Arsenic" and insert an IV line, with ORANGE color into that
Shell and fill it up
See the Orange colored liquid go from your feet all the way to your
head, and then the hair - until you're just oozing it out.
Command "Arsenic Stay and Kill all the Seeds"
Then all you do is occasionally check to make sure the liquid is still
orange, if it is black from the seeds, envision it emptying completely
out through the feet...and fill 'er back up *grin*
It kills them all. He said he had to make a special arsenic for them.
Only that big black egg one, in the brain area, was hard to kill. The
arsenic didn't remove it, and I had surgery for it. Remember, this is
your astral body they've attached it to...so its on both sides, physical
and metaphysical.
*****************************************************************************
kerrintelligent wrote: Bless-ed Love Old Soul,
Although we may not share all of your ideas, we have found that you
are able to overstep the complex mental barriers that have been
placed within the minds of most people.
Having that ability to evade the hypnotists artwork is enough for us to
commend your efforts and reap value from conversation.

We would like to expand our knowledge in the following subject and

see you as one of earth's few beings who can genuinely contribute to
our overstanding.
The human minds ability to create a shared reality.
Now at its most basic level this can be proven without any doubts ie.
We can think of going to the park and then create this reality by
actually going there where anyone who sees us can
testify to the resultant reality.
The grey area is where we feel really sad or really happy and the
weather synchronizing with our emotion.
The show stopper area is where we think of something a little more
complex like thinking of looking up and seeing a purple sun in a yellow
sky, this does not appear to be possible.
It then seams logical to deduce that the mind is limited in its reality
creating ability so we took a closer look at the what the limitations are
to decipher if they can be stretched or even removed. In examining
this area, we came across what has to be categorically the
greatest limitation to the minds creative ability, that is "the battle of the
wills" when another human is thinking of creating a different reality
than yours. This may not even have to be another human as the subconscience could also battle with persons conscience thoughts.
With todays level of science and technology it would be possible for
someone to actually put a yellow tinge to the earths atmosphere and
even use 3d projection units to color the sun purple, all starting from a
single human thought, however the collective rejection of this folly
would be enough to ensure this never happens.
This clearly leaves us a focal point, What gives one human will
(creative thought) authority over another human will? Looking at the
following possibilities helped us analyze.

Knowledge of the minds abilities?

Maybe a great help but ultimately the creative force seems to be just
as if not more powerful in a child than within any student of the
subject.
Majority Mind Power?
This has been proven not enough to sway the creation of reality as
one powerful willed human can easily override 1000 peoples will as
they are able to cause overriding motivation and reason in the minds
of others.
Good over evil power?
This maybe a key to triggering reality as it carries enough concise
backing on a shared basis but then what one human sees as good is
often bad for another. If good always prevails then by now we should
have created utopian world. It maybe that it just takes a long time to
form.
Truth?
Yes this also sounds enough to eliminate subconscious rivalry and
also seems able to cut through the hearts of people leaving only the
raw materials for dimension formation (reality). Truth is the only solid
foundation to build upon. On this all desirable faculties/attributes are
built but is it enough to manifest a thought pattern into reality? Maybe
not quite enough as it is clearly evident that the majority of humans
live with falsehood as the main attribute of their government and
financial systems, the main decider of their realities.
Genetical - Biological Make-Up?
Were going with this one, we conclude that a particular genetical code
make up is capable of forcibly overriding the ability of another or even
all others. The particular being(s) may not even know of his/her ability
but that would not stop it from working, or they may know of their
ability but are un-able to control it or frightened of the great
responsibility which comes with this great power. There are others like

this with varying degrees of abilities, they would not all be kind people
as they do not need to have empathy after all they can create our
realities. They would still be battling each other as each entity strives
to create a perfect world suited to their requirements.
Dream Walkers?
The dream/imagination state is too complex to be ignored and we
have no doubt that its a reality with strong connections to this
dimension as pre event dreams have been reported world wide and
even experienced by ourselves. We are currently interested in how the
two zones interact as they are sharing the exact same brain/memory.
It may be possible to execute a will inside the dream state which then
manifests in this world.
Can we have your angles please?
Thanks
Oldsoul: They've given us a view that is incorrect...on how things
work. You do not judge yourself...there is a 'judgment' and this is what
the 'Great Lawgiver' is a part of. After all think about it. Service to Self
Creates Sociopaths. Sociopaths have no conscience...therefore they
would never punish themselves. They would cheat their way into
Heaven if they could do that!
You do not create Reality. Father Creates the Creation...Worlds.
We are moved to locations by our Vibration though...like to like.
For comfort :) And you can manifest into reality those things that
you need. Not really the same thing as 'creating your own reality'.
That was a deception they played....
No, good is never bad for another...evil is parasitic and must have a
host, good, to feed on, it can not survive with out it. Good can stand
alone, it does not require evil to exist.

They gave the idea of 'duality', which is correct, male to female.

But attached 'evil' as the other side...that isn't correct. We have
duality, but we are not 'evil'.
You have to have Empathy to gain power. It is not allowed for
those who are negative. All 'inventions' of the mechanical nature,
and so forth..all the way UP...it translates to those who gain
'powers' or 'knowledge' must first be of Love which is the key to
power.
What the Owl did here, was cheat. And gave it to those they
controlled. But even the Owl doesn't have omnipotent powers. In
fact, in reality....it is only because they stripped ours completely
that they have any power over us at all. They cant compare with
our power...Man is capable of Love. Sociopaths are not.
No we don't manifest inside the dream to this place. There are
certain 'laws' in place here. Your power and your Free Will come
from physically being here on the inside...within an incarnate.
That gives you the Right to alter our World. By 'law' they were not
allowed to alter it without our express request...and that was the
War for you! No laws obeyed.

awesomewells wrote: Hey Oldsoul,

I'd like to start by saying thank you for your patience and thank you for
your information.
For some reason, this is the one thread I always check back on. I'm
not sure about everything you've said, and sometimes I find some of
the info a bit depressing, there was even something that I read which
completely spun me out for a few days but I still get the feeling that
there is a certain truth to all this.

I don't really remember many dreams but whilst reading this thread, I
found myself recalling a vivid dream I had about 15 years ago, where I
was standing at the base of a huge old tree positioned on a hillside
and there was a party or a carnival with loads of different people
taking place.
Also the roots of the tree became a river which ran down the hillside
(strange, I know) and I specifically remember a native American
looking lady sitting by the root of the tree.
Can I just ask you if you've ever heard of Peggy Kane? She has very
similar information to yourself. If you have, can you verify whether or
not her technique of using reverse speech is, for want of a better
word, trustworthy?
Once again, thank you for your time and knowledge, I wish you all the
best.
Peace & Love.
A.
Oldsoul: You know its funny...someone else just asked about Peggy
and RS. I found the site again, and went to take a look to see what
was going on there lately.
Yes, I trust Peggy. I think that like me and others, she gets the
messages and tries to faithfully convey them. You see...to do so is like
putting a target on your back. The reps target us. And it was very hard
to get anything to stay 'straight' and 'correct' and 'true' for a long while
here in this place, and people who do get info thats true will be subject
to these types of implants and seeds. So that the information coming
through would be corrupted.
After all, we didn't know that the 'thoughts' were not our own...the
seeds 'blended' and were hidden from our knowledge. This would

often lead one person against the other..a fight..over what was 'true'.
That is almost completely gone now...In comparison to 6 billion people
I mean:)
So things are in some ways coming in more easily...messages from
the Alliance. You personally can talk with your mind to them right now.
Just 'listen' ....the answer to the question you direct at them will enter
your mind almost before the question is completed. It sounds like your
own thoughts but it is faster than the question you direct at them...that
is your clue. Dont 'invite' conversation with any other entity though.
These are telepaths. And they are directly above you now, waiting.

Posts: 1159
Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:48 am by Oldsoul
You can also talk to father that way. He answers as well. And it does
sound like your own mind answering...because as Energy...he is
flowing through everyone and everything right now. That is causing
the high vibration rate...the reps/owl cant take the high frequencies.
But, he is answering. If you are having trouble now...it is because of
the implants, seeds, and stuff like that. However, we have already won
the War. And in Infinity, we are Living in the Creation and everyone is
alive, well and happy. So have confidence. It is Almost at the End.
Remember time is fluid, and that this is a construct. So don't name a
time or date here, but KNOW that in the Creation when this
happens...it WAS....MAY.
And I say Was, because according to Above, it has already happened
within the Infinity...and the future people say it was May, when the
Time of the Gathering occurred.
We've all endured to see this happen, even the people who don't
believe any of this *grin* Wont they be surprised!? Everyone will be
told the truth. Then the Gathering occurs.

Then the Families split up...and some go some where they choose to
continue the incarnations under the veil. Some return to their home
worlds, and not under the veil. Set's family goes with Set. At least
those that they laid claim to that chose to do service to self, and SET.
There are Dragons and Reptiles, dolphin, etc. who choose to return to
Eve, their mother. They are not service to self, but others. And they
are now living freely on a world that is really beautiful. I went to check
it out after dads favorite chemist mentioned it. We may visit them, and
they may visit us...there is no war between our friendships now.
So if you are having trouble. Just remember. "It is already Done". Live
every day as a day of Love, and soon May will be here.
You know, I said ....don't time it. We are told that OVER and over and
over...dont set a date..the owl can mess with that.
But I will tell you...that is the hardest thing. Its like trying to Ignore the
sun rising and setting...Even I have problems with that one *grin*
So I try not to look at clocks and calendars. I have noticed the time
system breaking down.
There are things...particularly in the news media....that are the same
stories..Swear...that I heard twenty years ago. And they are being
presented to the public as if it is new information.One was a piece
they did yesterday on the actresses not speaking...having roles with a
lot of lines as leading actresses....like in the fifties. That aired in the
1970's. All that was altered, was a modern look on the media crew
and the movies they showed.
I just wrote my friends complaining. I said ..."it was the 8th, then the
14th, now its the 23rd..." how did I miss so many days??? that is the
time thing. No, I wasn't ill, or forgetful...its like a glitch in the matrix.
They slowed things down to get things done...now they are speeding
things up to finish it. Hurry us through the days, so that the suffering

that is going on now isnt dragged out. Remember, we've already won,
it is just the tying up of loose ends now.
BTW, if anyone would like me to copy my files, best let me know now.
I could afford to ship to one, and then it would be to you to share. I
thought I would have enough time to download...but it is a sizaable GB
collection. Videos, images, and of course the Alchemy in word perfect.
send me a mail, with a post box or something I can ship to. And I'll get
one of those memory sticks this week.....and I'll send it that way.

Peaceandlove wrote: Hi oldsoul

I have followed your thread from day one - I even joined disclosetv
(today) - everything u have spoke about bring me to tears. I have so
many problems with laptops viewing your thread - I have been
disconnected so many times only happen when I log onto disclose tv
(only your thread) - no other problems elsewhere on the net viewing
other sites. Love and peace to u oldsoul - I feel we were meant to
speak to each other/ regardless whats has been put in my way to
speak to you.
Byproxy wrote: Hi Oldsoul, thank you for these latest updates, I find
your messages uplifting and comforting. Thank you, too, for sharing
the techniques you've mentioned, I'm looking forward to doing some
experimentation with visualization in the days ahead.
Best wishes to you and all.
Oldsoul: Welcome to Dtv Peaceandlove :) and yes they can do that. I
went through 3 cpu's...before I found out it wasn't the cpu. They will
block me from sites, pull my emails, twice now..they downloaded all
my files with the file migrator that is built in by windows. They did my
outlook express that way. I closed it and havent reopened it. Five
years of business files, estimates, etc...all gone.

ICE has a backdoor into the cpu too. You can try another machine,
somewhere else, and that will work until they clue in and shut that one
down too:) sorry. Until its all done, that is going on.
I want everyone to remember this...and make sure you talk about
it too, to family.
We entrain children out of their natural abilities. NEVER, ever tell
a baby, that something she/he saw or heard isn't true. When they
tell you the 'bird said...' or the 'dog wants...' Listen to them. They
pick it up, and because they are not yet entrained to dismiss it,
they KNOW that what they heard or saw was true. It is the same
when kids pick up that another adult is lying, or doesn't like them
even though the adult is acting like they do. Listen to them.
Understand they don't have the words yet, and see past that.
What did they see or hear, what do they 'know'?
Listening and paying attention to them tells them and enforces,
that the experience was real. That helps keep that knowledge
alive within them, and allows them to fight the entrainment.

wolebosevobasa wrote:Oldsoul, do you know of any techniques for

interpersonal pain relief?
I was having trouble with chrome sending you a message the other
day. Though unintentional, you may have received duplicates, please
discard.
Thank you for this gathering and for sharing with us. Be safe.
Oldsoul: I'll be honest with you woleb.,
Its been rough on us all. No doubt. Personal relationships torn and
ragged from the implants and seeds and other maneuvers set in
place. It fed the machines and tech, the more fighting and grief they

produce in our emotional bodies, the more they were able to feed off
us.
And worse of all, you react, before you remember...'ahh
yeah...forgot...they are pushing this emotion on me to feed..." you've
already usually done something in reaction to the 'bad' feelings.
People who are sensitive, usually don't even know it is not their own
feelings they are picking up, but feelings from others close to them
being attacked, or feelings the tech was deliberately pushing on to
them...
The only thing I've found that works with me...because today was
actually one of those days for me too...is support. Talk online in groups
that have some awareness of all of this. Once you get validation, that
you're not alone, and talk about it...it helps bolster the push back of
those feelings. Then you start to regain some balance, and it wears off
a bit...After which, at night, I usually spend time 'visualizing' and
looking past the net to validate to myself. I surround myself in that
golden light, and that brings the rest of the relief from 'grief' foisted on
me.
Humor and patience, is the key to survival of it all. Use both traits
when you run into fights. I do when the kids and adults fight. It seems
to soothe the situation by offsetting whatever is hitting them. First I
surround them with golden light, then I use Heart. And with each word,
I speak from the heart it seems that the visible aggravation of the kids
is slowed and then completely offset sometimes. Especially if I catch it
in time. I'll make a joke, and tease them gently about it.
Mind you...sometimes I'm the target..and fall for it *grin* so, no
sainthood here! I have to back up then, and go back and either take
the blame for it all and apologize, or something of that sort. Because I
know, it really isn't anyone's fault ...it is being done TO them. So its no
skin off my nose to accept the blame, and make them free of the
feelings.

We have won, all that is waiting is the last of the clean up. It seems
slow until you realize just how much they were cleaning up...then you
marvel at the power of god :) That what would seem to be irreparable
is made miraculously new and not just one thing, but things the size of
planets, moons, suns...
Hope that helped, and I hope things get better quickly for you. We are
almost to the end now, and we are all being slammed pretty severely.
Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:14 am by Oldsoul
Today was a rough day on many. I went to Peg's site, to see what was
going on. Peggy had been attacked to. She had quite a 'list' of 'things
gone wrong' and as usual these 'attacks' descend to the ridiculous
sometimes. Among her list, was an attack by a javalina...pig. well that
sound funny, unless you're someone who's hunted...then you
understand, this was a life threatening thing, she could have been
killed. She's banged, bitten, and bruised, and it wasn't the only thing
on the list. Her brother in law had a stroke..from an attack.
We've pretty much decided this is the last push by these 'things'.
They are really desperate, and dying...for the energy that is
produced from YOU when you respond to these attacks.
DONT FEED THE NET
Remain calm as possible, draw your on reserves of patience and
Love...let them starve! And think of it that way..."No, I will NOT
feed you" If you need support, because the attacks really are quite
bad in alot of cases. Come on line and we'll chat and support each
other.
The primary attacks are on the last of the Allies on the Inside.
These last people were the strongest of the Lot. So they stayed
to the End.

Apparently if the El can get a rise out of these warriors, it

produces more energy than the average person due to the fact
that their oversouls are LARGE energy signatures. Like BIG
BATTERIES to tap.
And so the El are hovering around my place, and I'm sure they
are around others like Woleb...I mean its obvious that someone
so loving and gifted is one of the Allies on the Inside:)
Dont be a push over, but remain 'soft' and loving...and we win.
They have to have those negative energies to feed on.

Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:29 am by Oldsoul

As I said, I went and looked up Peg's site (Peggy Kane) here the other
day....and I've been reading it. It is interesting the similarities of what
they see and talk about. Here is a post from today recapping,
apparently, what they believe is going to happen. And it is so similar, I
cant believe it is a coincidence.
________________________________________________________

eyelean,
Well, let's just take a moment and review what RS has told us about
what is coming.
First, clouds and then luminous light.
Everyone is looking up and amazed.
Children are dancing in the school yards,
People in bed in other parts of the world look out in wonder.
People come out of office buildings, and pull over in their cars to look
at this beautiful light.
Everyone feels love and calmness along with reassurance.

The Divine Couple speak into each heart of their love.

The Alliance are waiting outside to help and reassure as the net is
gently opened to reveal the true nature of space.
Time slowly evaporates. No one is rushing to get to the office or
worrying about paying bills, they are transfixed by all that is happening
and it all feels so wonderful, no fear at all.
I know we are gently shown what has been happening here. Our
beloved relatives who have passed begin to speak to us and hugs,
tears, kisses everywhere.
Don't forget, we are now out of the time loops, so this begins to
happen without any time reference. It is just happening.
There is constant love and reassurance pouring into everyone so no
one is fearful. Also, the RS part of the mind that has been so wise,
begins to open up so we have true understanding from within and not
just from others.
From there, we get to have One on One greetings and connections
with The One most likely as Mom and Dad.
We begin to see that all life is awake and conscious. We begin to see
into the Astral world, the spirits of nature, little atoms dance in front of
our eyes as our perceptions become really awake.
Atoms are the tiny children of the One which then take form and
merge to become everything that has a form. It is still the One and we
are all part of the One.
The whole world becomes luminous, fantastic and exciting.
and then.....

PARTY!
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And all of the above mentioned on Peg's site, is exactly what my
'group' has seen. Different pieces of the puzzle, different images, but
essentially the same thing.
And this is the "EVENT"
and why the End of the Cycle of the Zodiac is always written
about..from 'World' to 'World'. There was not supposed to be
cataclysms. That was the 'rebel's' Reb EL's...the 'greys' that were
causing that trauma to us. Somehow, that negative energy..fear, hate,
etc...helps 'glue' us into this reality and it helps them 'keep us' here
rather than move into the next World.
So every cycle end, they created the "2012" type catastrophe's. All
that fear and past trauma's had to be subconsciously cleared. We had
to see it and let it go. Hence all the 'movies'. What is a writers script
after all but the 'imagination' of the writer who, because of the false
education of what imagination and dreaming is, doesn't realize they
are seeing and getting images that are based on something that is
real.
So it appears that they are making last ditch efforts. You hear about all
the warnings these last few days of the potential of a mega thrust in
the N. American continent...its not that they don't have the tech to do
it. But its important you understand that it is the El and 'officials' who
are doing this, and that this is not normal when we move into the New
World. And its important you understand, that when death occurs to
anything here, they are thrown into the next World, and that these
people get healed and go through 'Renewal'.
There is a sort of prize for winning through this last moment, and that's
being cheated these people. That's the shame and why people like

Rothschild and the Coven members who directly know what they are
doing, the El, are getting the Pit.
The War has been Won, truce declared, and these people refuse to
stop their killing or surrender.
Most of those that surrendered were given a sentence of going
through the evolutionary process all over again to clear the soul and
spirit of the traits that were entrained into them for the purpose of this
particular War. The All Father loves All children, even the naughty you
see:) They killed, and did worse but he didn't erase their Line, or
commit genocide of them. I am talking about these particular people
who were here on Earth doing this harm to Humanity. Not the other
racial Lines who were on the Allied side but bore the same dna. Civil
Wars are so hard to keep track of!
It will never happen again, this Civil War within Heaven and Creation.
When the division comes, Earth and all of you who are born to stay
here, will have a beautiful future. And it is not far away, decades, or
years. Time is Fluid.

fossileyesed wrote: good day oldsoul, cant thank you enough for your
perspective. but thanks, lol
i was taking pics today down at the lake.still iced over.the edges are
melting in the day and freezing in the night.the ice does some pretty
cool (pun)things.
this morning i got some pretty wild geometry formed in the ice.
at the end of the vid there is some hexagons.very cool and perplexing.
it feels like being in some kind of magical school see this stuff.i went to
the lake to film the rainbow halo that was in the sky around the
sun.amazing.
click the pic for a bigger pic

Oldsoul: That is so cool, and it really validates....we've hit the

frequency planet wide.
This is what is being called "Hyperphysics", "Cymatics" and "String
Theory" and really it is old, and goes by another older name and is
one system.
We have a Vibratory rate that is now accelerated and the energy
patterns being formed so that. Go back to the Sacred Geometry and
the Platonic Solids. When you hit the right Vibration rate
EVERYTHING of Matter Morphs. Naturally.
Earth, in space...is now emitting so much Light they haven't produced
any space shots (photography) of Earth ..that I'm aware of..for a
couple of years now. I remember it started with 'beams of Light
emitting from the planet' and going straight into space...and as this
increased they cut off all reporting of it.
Thank you for those images, may I share them? :)
People are going to be immensely surprised. Because we dont see
the same thing...we see solid people and such, not knowing that we
actually have passed through that 3d phase. We emit light now, to
someone who is on that level...I dont even know the Vibratory rate
now, but I know that we passed 32 Mhz two years ago.

They use these 'frequencies' for broadcasting. If the broadcast is not

on the planetary frequency it wont go through...so they have to match
the same out put of the planet to broadcast at all. And this is all
communications, radar, etc. Thats how I found out ...from a Navy
friend.
The planet was at 7.8 mhz for as long as we know...and it started
rising. Suddenly all their navigations were off,
communications..etc. So they suddenly had to start training their
people to be stationed, watch and then alter daily...these
instruments...caused them alot of havoc, and accidents too. And
these still happen when there were spikes...they just couldnt
keep up
The last frequency I got, was from finding a FCC Broadcast
Public Notice about the rise in their Frequency from 28 to 32 Mhz,
in 2008. I wonder what frequency the Hex represents? I cant
remember my alchemy offhand, but I think it was the octave of 48
You know fossileyesed, I'm trying to remember...but as I recall from
Alchemy, the last time I saw that formation *crystalline* was the Spirit
of Rosemary. Raised to its highest level by alchemy.
I believe it is on the "Alchemy Website" under Mclean's writings, and
under Rosemary They have pictures of it.
Lol, well it is quite late now. I will say good night. Try to hold the peace
in your hearts, and know that all of it is Done, and Father will open the
NET soon.
Send Love all around you, and this will undo the thought forms
of these entities that were attacking the people around you. Love
is your primary weapon, because they feed on the Negative
energy...and remember it is Energy.

That doesn't mean you don't stand up for yourself, or have to 'take
it'...but it does mean that you can focus your heart full of love as a
directed energy around you to help clear these things out. You
absolutely have that Power, and even though you do not see it directly
it is a physical energy on their level and because of the Law of Free
Will they cannot over come it.
Al Chemy directly translated to 'god chemistry' as long as you
understand that the god was EL :)
But it was the method of using chemicals and stellar bodies to
raise the Vibrational frequency of a substance and make it morph
into the next matter on the elemental charts. The same thing can
be done with Sound. Sound is the Key that Unlocks all Matter.
The secret of the Philosophers Stone is the Medicine of the Third
Order. You wont be in the third order ever again so its really a
moot point.
Its 'by product'...of the process was...believe it or not...gold.
Which is why so much greed became attached to it that it
obscured the older manuscripts that gave regarding genesis.