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Steven Feld,
VR: What I recall very well was something that I felt every time I
was there, which had an impact on other people too. Before you
got into the room with the Castaways you could hear the sound of
the waves drawing you there, lighting the path to them. There was
a sense of very much entering into a different sort of relationship
with the museum but also of entering a much more intimate place,
an acoustic premonition of entering the place for viewing. I hadn?t
been there to set up the work, the actual visual installation was
complete when I arrived, so having that sound coming more from
behind created in me a sense of almost being in the water, rather
than walking towards the water. And I imagine this was so for a lot
of people, because many came in and sat down and rested or lay
down on the benches. That was for me the most remarkable
moment in the audience encounter of that exhibit, people not just
standing in between the speakers and the objects or walking
close to the objects, but actually sitting on the floor or lying down
halfway between them as if they were on the beach. Did you get
comments about the relationship between the visual and the
acoustic?
SF: Do you mean about the transport, the sensation of being at
the beach?
VR: Yes. There was something quite synaesthetic about it in
terms of the sensation on the skin; that wetness, that reverberant
space, that sense of time being a little more watery or elastic.
SF: Yes, people made comments to me about that, especially
about the feeling of wetness of the room and work. It did create a
more timeless sensation for the work, and I think people let time
and space expand to open up to the acoustic horizon. People also
made comments about that to Rupert (Cox, the conference
organizer who liaised the exhibit with the Whitworth and led
several tours and discussions of the exhibit).
VR: I?m listening to this and I?m thinking, hey, we?re supposed to
be talking about collisions and collusions of art and anthropology,
but basically we?re talking both as artists, talking about the
SF: What about the moment when I shot that very brief sequence
that?s used in the film, the one shot from over your shoulder
where you?re sitting in your apartment in Accra and looking
through a book of old images of these slave castles. All of a
sudden we go from images and sounds of the sensuous power
and reverie of the washings in and out to oh, there?s this other
historical set of traces that is all over this work: the forts, slavery.
VR: The question was, then, what kind of story are we going to tell
about it? Because this was not to be an anthropological film about
slave forts and castles. The story is about an artist in a place,
about how art meets and makes memory. And watching me look
at that book acknowledges that artists are also viewers with a
visual relationship to history, not just a visual relationship to their
own art.
SF: You become a particularly reflexive agent at that moment in
the film, because while we?re listening to the sound of that water,
we see you, from over your shoulder, looking at the book of slave
fort pictures. We?re not looking at your face. We don?t know what
kind of state you?re in, but you?re turning the page and that
visible evidence of you turning the page, like the evidence of your
hands picking things up and putting them in your bag as you
collect from the beach, is a point of reference, like the way the
radio is playing in your studio during the sequences where you
are at work. So while the image of you looking at the pictures of
the castles has one level of suggestion of historical awe, there is
this other, more ironic relationship to history on the soundtrack?
VR: ?the BBC?
SF: Yes. In your studio, in your workspace, the BBC Africa Service
was on constantly, it?s the drone of history, playing everything
from the Pink Panther theme song to banal news stories about the
history of the Queen?s head on British money. And that?s the
acoustic background that anchors what you?re doing in the
moment. We don?t see the source of that sound. You never see a
picture of the radio, because I didn?t do the standard
ethnographic or documentary film thing of using a cutaway shot of
the radio itself. But the radio?s sound is the actual synchronous
sound recorded in that moment and directly attached to images of
you at work in that moment.
VR: I liked having the BBC on the soundtrack, both because the
BBC Africa Service is constantly replaying the past, but it?s also
constantly playing the moment of what?s going on. And it?s
comforting for an artist alone in a studio to be at the same time
connected to hundreds of thousands of other people all over the
continent listening to the same program. I feel like the years I lived
in Ghana were often accompanied by the BBC?s African service.
It was like a heartbeat. And yes on one level it is very banal, but
on another level it was often whimsical and quite poignant. And
that?s how I often experienced the passage of time there, working
in that tiny little studio with my little battery-operated radio.
SF: And that?s the metaphoric suggestion I make in the editing of
the soundtrack, that in your studio the BBC was your ocean, and
that sound is as much inside the Castaways you made as the
sound of the waves breaking at Anomabo is part of the histories of
the sun-bleached prima materia. So the sound of radio and the
sound of the ocean become parallel tracks, as both have
important relationships to the experience of space and time at the
beach and in the studio, to the histories of the material objects
that became Castaways and to the process of making the
Castaways, and to the sensuous experience of place. The place
of the BBC is triangulated by the washings-in and out of the water,
and the music tracks of Accra Trane Station.
But enough about my blurring roles between anthropology and
art, because I think you do too. I mean there is an anthropology in
your art here, and it comes out as you attach the history of making
that work to the sounding out of the waves of history on the BBC.
And the way you collected, transformed, and displayed the work
speaks to the anthropology of place. Aren?t you doing work that
grapples with displacement, replacement, emplacement? That
speaks to your own sense, historically, of often moving places? Of
your experiences of being displaced? Anthropologists spend time
theorizing their consciousness of what it means to be out of place.
In the early part of 2007 Nortey and Feld conversed about the
confluence of Coltrane?s 1957 classic LP record Blue Train and
Ghana?s 1957 independence. That led to Accra Trane Station?s
2007 CD project Another Blue Train, a train ride through the blue
diasporic night of African jazz to celebrate the two 50th
anniversaries and to join them in the image of Ghana?s night
train, which was coincidentally painted blue. On a visit to Ryan?s
studio near the time of independence, Nortey, who is also a visual
artist working in sculpture, saw the first Topographies paintings,
and said he wanted to sound them. So in the process of recording
Another Blue Train, two dark and moody textural improvisations,
each titled Topographies of the Dark, were recorded, each
connecting Ryan?s paintings to the deepest part of the night train
ride. A few months later, when Nortey and Annan visited Feld in
the US to perform together with American jazz artists, a full-blown
project was created in a Santa Fe recording studio, a complete
CD of compositions, Topographies of the Dark, in dialogue with
some of Ryan?s paintings that had just arrived (Nortey et. al.
2008).
Fragments of a conversation about Topographies of the Dark
VR: What is quite powerful to me about Topographies of the Dark
is not just it?s connection to night, to the African coastline, to oil
and electricity, but that the work crossed the ocean multiple times.
The flip-flops landed on the beaches where I plucked them,
washed and machete them, worked them into the paintings there
in Accra, where you and Nii Noi and Nii Otoo saw them at the
studio. And that led to the pieces you composed for Another Blue
Train. Then some of the paintings went to the USA, and after that
Nii Noi and Nii Otoo went there and recorded with you. So that
was another crossing, both for the work, and the musicians, and a
very unique kind of conversation between art and audibility of
transport. Moving big and physically weighty artwork is hard,
moving music was easier, and like Castaways, there is a story
about mobility, the movement of things and people through the
waves, as an art of replacement.
SF: One of the things I had been encouraging Nii Noi to work on
more was the relationship between his music and his own
sculpture. So the connection between the feeling or the soundingness of visual art material was familiar to him, and he even called
his work ?sounding sculptures? like the ones he made named for
titles of major Coltrane compositions. And the instruments he
made, they were also sculptures. So this connection to your work
developed slowly and organically, first using two tracks from the
Accra Trane Station Meditations CD to mix in with the sound of
the Castaways video, and then the conversation about crossings
in the night for Another Blue Train, then the full development of a
Black Atlantic conversation for the Topographies of the Dark CD.
But the idea of actually composing music that could connect to the
paintings and could be published together with pictures of them
was not something that we all sat down and worked out in
advance of going into the studio. What was going on in the studio
was much more a process of trying things out and things just
developed that way.
V: Exactly like me. . . seeing what will happen, hearing what will
happen.
SF: We didn?t sit down and say, we?ll relate this piece to this
painting or something like that. I wasn?t even thinking about a CD
when we went into the studio. We just recorded to experiment
with bringing Nii Noi and Nii Otoo and me together with Alex
(Coke) and Jefferson (Voorhees). It?s kind of amazing that in just
two recording sessions, five people meeting for the first time
would come up with this music?.
VR: ?but there?s going to be that sort of frisson, that inspiration in
first meetings which is often hard to repeat, especially because it
was a first crossing to America for Nii Noi and Nii Otoo, and you
brought them together with people who had not been to Ghana,
but who were musically kindred spirits, people who knew the
Accra Trane Station music. There?s something quite magical
about the idea of the music arriving from travel and footsteps
and . . .
so there was this water bridge from the exhibit?s first rooms,
featuring Castaways, to the hallway of Topographies, and into the
room where the Topographies CD was playing. That center room
was like a little heart space, an inner chamber, and there were
chairs there so people could pause and listen and look.
Meanwhile, the sound of the Topographies soundtrack left that
room and acoustically mingled and flowed into the sounds of the
water, which was piped into all of the twenty rooms. So what
starts as a focused experience of the water, the ambient sounds
of the shoreline in the two first rooms filled with Castaways, then
continues and sonifies the whole exhibit. Spatially ?all the rooms?
and temporally ?the history of the work?make the Black Atlantic
connection by this surround ambient of the water, and in its
center, the musical pulse of the Topographies suggesting the
aesthetic figures of jazz, of race, of movement. The sounds of the
water interacted differently with the exhibit in each of the twenty
rooms. But having that moment where water takes you to music
and music leads back out to the water, really created, for me, a
special relationship of the visual and audible materiality of the
Castaways and Topographies projects...
VR: Because I think it worked aesthetically as visual display and
also sonorically to have that little pulsing heart there in the middle
with the different waterway entries into the room.
SF: Now it?s me whose thinking about how comfortable I am with
this conversation, speaking about materials and materiality to you
as an artist, but thinking that where my anthropology migrates
toward art is also where your art migrates toward anthropology.
This is not a difficult conversation for me to have with an artist.
But it is considerably more difficult, a good deal of the time, to try
to have these kinds of conversations with anthropologists,
because they are just so much less familiar with how we make
visual and acoustic things, so much less familiar with how visual
and acoustic materials are also media of articulation through
which one can work on or express very complex ideas. I mean,
the more I work with art, and with artists, and try to migrate the
sensuous materiality of sound and image and object into zones of
anthropological knowing the more I encounter this kind of