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MSNBC:'RagsToRiches'AHollywoodMyth
Evencapitalistscan'thelpexplodingtheirownmyths:
http://economywatch.msnbc.msn.com/_n...udyfinds?lite
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Andinothernews,thesunrisesintheeastandsetsinthewest.
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Hey,noteveryoneknowsthatthe'ragstoriches'beliefisamyth.Sotrynottoactsoblase
aboutit,'kay?
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Thismythperpetuatesmuchofwesternsociety,soI'llhavetoagreewithBoD.Thisisnotan
issuetobetakinglightly.
ButonecanhardlyblameHollywood.Filmmakersalmostalwayswantahappyending,sowe
won'tbeseeingfilmsaboutsomeonewhoriskseverything,andendsupinthegutter(unless
he's/she'sabaddie)
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Actually,Gmanhasapoint.Idon'tthinkasingleuseronrevleft,exceptformaybeafewin
OIbelieveintheragstorichesmyth.What'sinteresting,though,ishowthearticletalksabout
anempiricalstudyconfirmingwhatmanyherealreadybelieved.However,Iwouldarguethat
thereareprobablynumerousstudiesalreadywhichsuggestthesamething.
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SowemustonlydiscusstopicsandviewpointswhichthedemographicofRevLeftagreeswith?
Coolstory,bro.
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Coolstory,bro.
Yeah,that'stotallywhatIwasarguing.
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What'syourpointofbeingCaptainObvious,then?
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What'syourpointofbeingCaptainObvious,then?
Idon'tevenknowwhatyou'retryingtosayhere.Areyouaskingmewhatthepointofmy
commentwas?
Iguessifthat'sthecase,IwassayingthatGmanhasapointinexpressingthatthisisnot
reallynewstoanyonehereonrevleft.However,thereisvalueinthestudyasitempirically
confirmswhatmanypeopleherealreadykneworbelieved.
Isthatalittleclearerforyou?
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Whatisthepointofpointingoutthatthisisnotnews?
ThisisagoodoccasionfordiscussingwhythismythissocommoninEuropeandAmerica,so
whyderailitwithpointlessnitpicking?
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Whatisthepointofpointingoutthatthisisnotnews?
ThisisagoodoccasionfordiscussingwhythismythissocommoninEuropeand
America,sowhyderailitwithpointlessnitpicking?
Well,ifwearediscussingwhythismythissocommon,doesn'titserveourpurposeto
considerthosewhodonotholdsuchviews?
Gmanmadeavalidpoint.Getoverit.Itwas,tobesure,condescendingandnotconstructive
inthewayhedidit,andIwouldrespectyoualotmoreifyouhadactuallymadethat
argument.Butyoudidn't.Instead,you'rearguingthatweshouldn'tevenconsiderthefactthat
everyoneonrevleftalreadybelievedthistobetrue?Ifindthatpieceofinformationquite
relevanttothisdiscussion,butifyouaretoodensetoseewhy,thenobviouslyyouhavevery
littletocontributetothediscussioninthefirstplace.
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No,Ididnotsaythatweshouldnotconsiderthefactthatmost,ifnotall,usersonRevLeft
agreedwiththeconclusion.
WhatIwassaying,wasthatitwaspointlesstopointitout,becauseweallknowthatalready.
Wehaveenoughproblemsontheseboardsbythiskindofoneupmanship.
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No,Ididnotsaythatweshouldnotconsiderthefactthatmost,ifnotall,userson
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WhatIwassaying,wasthatitwaspointlesstopointitout,becauseweallknowthat
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Sowe'resupposedtoconsiderit,butnotmentionit?Youhaveareallystrangewayof
discussingthings.Generally,whendiscussingthings,andbringingupatopicforconsideration,
itusuallyisagoodideatomentionthetopicyouwanttoconsiderinthediscussion.Your
positionisbecomingmoreandmoreuntenable,I'dsuggestyouabandonship.
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"RagstoRiches"ispartofthecapitalistparadigmthatisreflectedinfilmsmadeinHollywood.
Orit'ssimplycapitalistpropagandathatissaying"Seeanybodycanbecomerich"...
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You'reright.Ioverreacted.Iapologize.
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Who'sbeingauthoritarianhere?Oyggjaframiandnowyouaretheone'stryingto
silencedifferingopinions.WhatexactlyhaveIsaidthatisinanywayauthoritarian?
Forgod'ssake,mangetyourheadoutofyourass.
I'mnottryingto"silence"anyone,whatIdidwaspointingoutwhatGmansaidwaspointless,
andyouhadtocomeandmakeafuzz.
Couldwepleasegetondiscussingthetopicathand,please?
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