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All of them has the same capacity for both magnetic contactor, should be in
one the same rating for forward, reverse and delta (ampere rating for each
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contactor that i mention).
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and all line side are in the top of each contactor in forward, reverse and delta
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should be the same and all load side are in below of four magnetic contactor
in forward, reverse, delta and wye. (Philippine Electrical Code).
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Can you draw the schematic diagram to share in other electrical
practitioners..
BTW un title ang tanong control circuit pero sa body ng post ang tanong
power/motor circuit. need pa ba control circuit?
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VFD are very expensive compare to four magnetic contactor,..
(forward-reverse wye-delta connection)
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konting revision na lang from my 1st drawing for ur new rquirement na dapat
pareho size ng 3 contacotr to minimum size possible. analyze it makukuha mo
rin yan. magkano ba contrata nyan? ibigay ko sau drawing kung di mo pa
nakuha..ang LAGAY ba naman ehh..ganun ganun na lang?? heheh joke.
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any suggestions?...
by the way thank you to all of your comments, suggestions and analysis...
this is a very nice topic to share in other electrical practioners,
if you want to share some illustration of schematic diagram please send it
here or in my E-mail:
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What do you mean by a clutch brake in the shafting, is it more like a car disc
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Generator brake lang ang kailangan wala ng clutch. walang pinagkaiba sa motorized
hoist.
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ganito yon sis nakakabit sa shafting ng motor tapos yung body nakakabit sa
body ng motor... pag me kasamang clutch ang brake then continues run ang
motor... saka lang aandar ang load pag na-energize ang clutch. bale
electromagnetic nga yan sis.
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thanks c0♂Lët! ganyan pala yan....
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This is the exactly what i said before, the real figure of clutch brake
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(electro-magnetic brake) by the way, thank you cOoLet...so now we have
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connection and the safety to Stop the Rotation of this unit either clockwise
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or counter-clockwise, As additional there is a only one timer for sequence
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in Wye-Delta operation in this motor control,take note: only one timer...
the given four magnetic contactor and push button switch for stop and
start, this switch is momentary contact if ever the voltage is fluctuation or
under voltage protection is arise the motor control will be stop or de-
energized the circuit for protection just in case the power failure will be
automatic energized by electric power,the under voltage release is the
fherdzpowerhaus maintaining contact that not recommended in this wye-delta operation
because some problem in operation or accident in the machine especially
for those operator and maintenance, this switch is maintaining contact like
selector or snap switch direct line in the circuit different in the other one
momentary contact push button switch in case.
if you want additional pilot light for operation, the motor control design is
recommended to use red colour for STOP, green colour for Operation and
orange for sequence in Wye connection into Delta connection, phase
voltage is also acceptable in operation for this motor control as auxilliary,
Voltmeter, Currentmeter and most especially the overload relay for safety
in your induction motor more than a million price together with gearbox
in the single shaft of your unit, that's all...
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Pilot Light orange colour, on-going start to energized when the Wye
contactor is- IN
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Wye contactor-OUT
Pilot Light (operation) green colour- IN
Pilot Light orange colour- OUT
Delta contactor- IN
that's all...
Additional information, comment and suggestion will be appreciated.
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using four magnetic contactor for forward, reverse, delta and wye control,
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the unit is 60hp 440volts 60hz 1800rpm induction motor wye delta
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line-1 (U-Z), line-2 (V-X), line-3 (W-Y) forward rotation
could be possible this to use in the circuit? please send me your answers,
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this induction motor to use for mixer and crushing machines or (heavy
equipment)machine.
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Then after the set time on wye delta. the connection would be,
Forward Delta
L1 : U & Z
L2 : V & X
L3 : W & Y
@wye
L1 : V
L2 : W
L3 : U
L1 : V & X
L2 : W & Y
L3 : U & Z
Ang alam ko pag ganitong crushing ang method eh meron pang sequence ang
motor na ireverse nya automatic yung motor rotation pag maraming load na
nakain yung crusher or pag di nya kayang icrush yung mga items. Then after
ilang second eh mag forward ulit angrotation to crush the items again.
Operation repeat hanggang ma pulbos na yung item. Ang gamit nilang sensor
eh current ct. Pag nag over current eh tiaka lang mag activate yungreverse
rotation the mag start yung timer to forward the rotation...
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Gender: Forward wye then forward delta (continous running yan hanggat di nataas ang
Posts: 1388 ampere eh tuloy ang crushing, once nag high current at nalagpasan ang current
setting nung sensor with a span of time set. Magreverse yan ng reverse wye
then reverse delta, then me timer yan for reverse after matapus countdown eh
balik sa forward rotaion with wye delta ulit. Ganun lang operation. Di na yung
delta to wye. Di ba kaya lang naman nagkaroon ng wye delta sa 60hp eh
sobrang laki nung motor kaya ganun starting method nya. mas ok to kung sof
E&I tech. start ang method para wala ng madaming contactor at timer..... hehehehe...
Napakasimple, Less maintenance pa at tipid pa sa kuryente...
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Now, in this sequence the only problem is how will you tap the wiring in
permanent connection, maybe all of you have answers for this and
analysis about this wiring diagram and all of you are showing your
fherdzpowerhaus optional answers that maybe correct or not but my question is, did you test
this in experimentalconnection in your own opinion, have you experience
this motor control in your work in industrial field, did you have encounter
this in trouble shooting or installation in your company during your
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I really appreciated all your opinion here in this analysis of forward-
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inspector if you have a doubt in your opinion, thank you to all and more
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Now, in this sequence the only problem is how will you tap the wiring in
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about this wiring diagram and all of you are showing your optional answers
E&I tech. that maybe correct or not but my question is, did you test this in experimental
connection in your own opinion, have you experience this motor control in
your work in industrial field, did you have encounter this in trouble shooting or
installation in your company during your duty?..
I really appreciated all your opinion here in this analysis of forward-reverse
wye-delta motor control circuit or power diagram, but you may a sure of your
comment or suggestion to be practising as consultant or inspector if you have a
doubt in your opinion, thank you to all and more power to all members...
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what i really mean is, 3P 440V 60HP motor is worth around Php 1M, u really
need Rockwell or Siemens or other tested motor controllers manufacturers and
not e-lab to experiment your 1M asset.
the logic of your switcher is very simple but its not like that in the actual
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