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MichaelHirsh
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FromPublishersWeekly
AcrossbetweenGreenBeretsand911paramedics,AirForcepararescuemenPJsforshortparachute
orhelicopterin,sometimesunderfire,totreatandevacuatesickorwoundedsoldiers.Narrowly
specialized,highlytrainedandboundbythecredo"ThatOthersMayLive,"PJsaretheembodiment
ofthehyperprofessionalismandleavenocomradebehindethosoftoday'smilitary.Thisgungho
andoftengrippingaccountcelebratestheirexploitsinthewarinAfghanistan.Investigativereporter
HirshlovestoshootthebreezewithPJswhiletheyregalehimwithanecdotes,bragabouttheir
maniacaltrainingregimenanddisparageothercommandounits,especiallytheNavySEALs("We
don'tthinktheworldrevolvesaroundus,"saysonePJ."WhereastheSEALsdo").SometimesHirsch
letshissubjectsgoontoolong,givingreadersanalltoovividimpressionofatorpiddayatthebase.
Butwhentheactionstarts,hedepictstheirharrowingadventureswithverveandinsight,writingina
laconic,acronymheavymilitaryesethataptlyconveysthecoolheadedgritwithwhichsoldierscope
withthechaosofcombat("CaptainSelfbegantosensethattheshrapnelwoundinhisrightthighwas
goingtocausemobilityproblemsasthedayworeon").AVietnamvethimself,Hirshretainsacertain
scornforthebrass,especiallywhentheyevincealackoffaithinthePJ'sabilitytogetthejobdone.
Fullofspecialopsprocedural,youaretheredetail,andmomentsofrealpathosassoldiersconfront
thehorrorsofwar,thisbookwilldelightmilitarybuffs.
Copyright2003ReedBusinessInformation,Inc.

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Medicsinparatroopergear,"PJs"aretheairforce'selitesearchandrescuepersonnel,readyin
peacetimetosavecivilians(asrecountedinJackBrehm'sThatOthersMightLive[2000])titledafter
thePJcredo)andinwartosavesoldiers.SeveralmissionsinthelattercategoryarecoveredinHirsh's

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account,drawnfromhisinterviewsofpararescuemenmobilizedforthewaronthe9/11terroristsin
Afghanistan.FewdetailsareleftoutinHirsh'schronicle,whichisdensewiththeminutiaeof
equipment,thespecsofplanesandhelicopters,andatthecruxofthematter,themedicalstatusof
thePJs'chargesinjuredinthewarzone.Thisdetailedstylemightoverwhelmcasualreadersof
militaryaffairs,butforthosewellacquaintedwiththem,andwithspecialoperationsinparticular,
Hirsh'sapproachcapturestheflavorofactivedutylifeandtheinnercommitmenttoselflessnessof
themenitprofiles:severalPJsdiedontheexceedinglyhazardousmissionsHirshreconstructs.In
librarieswherespecialopstitlescirculate,Hirsh'stitlemeritsconsideration.GilbertTaylor
CopyrightAmericanLibraryAssociation.Allrightsreserved
ProductDescription
FromawardwinningjournalistandcombatveteranMichaelHirshcomesthethrillinginsidestoryof
theAirForce'spararescueoperationsinAfghanistan.ThefirstjournalisttobeembeddedwithanAir
Forcecombatunitinthewaronterrorism,HirshflewfromMoodyAirForceBase,Georgia,withthe
71stRescueSquadrontotheirexpeditionaryheadquartersatasecretlocationinCentralAsia.
UnparalleledaccesstothepararescuejumpersorPJsaswellastothecourageousmenandwomen
whoflythemwheretheyhavetogo,oftenunderenemyfire,allowedMichaelHirshtouncover
incrediblestoriesofcourage.Amongthem:thedramaofaplanecrashat10,000feetintheHindu
Kushmountains,wherePJsclimbwithhundredpoundpacksthroughchestdeepsnowtorescuethe
crew...thetensionofanunprecedentednighttimecombatparachutejumpintothemiddleofan
Afghanminefield...theheartbreakduringOperationAnaconda,whensevenAmericanfightingmen
die,includingthefirstPJkilledincombatsinceVietnam.
AbouttheAuthor
MichaelHirshisaVietnamcombatveteran,abroadcastjournalist,andaGeorgeFosterPeabody
Awardwinningdocumentaryfilmmaker.HeistheauthorofPararescue:TheSkillandCourageofthe
Elite106thRescueWing:TheTrueStoryofanIncredibleRescueatSeaandtheHeroesWhoPulledIt
Off.

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HelloFolks,tomorrowstartsthebuddyreadonNoneBraver.Thisisthewaythatallpotential
spoilersanddiscussionsshouldbeposted:
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Therearetwelvechaptersanintroductionandanepilogue(14entities).Hereisasuggested
syllabushoweverrememberthatthisisasinglethreadreadsoyouMUSTusethegoodreads
spoilerhtmlforallspoilersandanydiscussionwhichwillspoilthereadforothers.Makesureto
prefaceexactlywhatChapter,sectionorpagesyouarereferringto.Donotputthatsegmentin

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spoilerssothatfolkswillknowwhatexactlythespoilerisaboutandchoosetoreadand/ornotreadit
untiltheyarecaughtup.Asinglethreadreadismuchtrickierbutalotoffun.Itisaratherquickread
ofabookthatwemaynotgettorightawaybutonefolkswanttoreadandhaveaskedforathreadto
besetup.
WeekOneIntroductionandChapters12WeekofMay20thMay29th
WeekTwoChapters35WeekofMay30thJune5th
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HereissomegeneralinformationaboutthePararescueUnit:
AIRFORCESPECIALOPERATIONSCOMMAND'SPARARESCUEMEN(PJs)
Mission
AirForceSpecialOperationsCommand'spararescuemen,alsoknownasPJs,aretheonlyDepartment
ofDefensespecialtyspecificallytrainedandequippedtoconductconventionalorunconventional
rescueoperations.TheseBattlefieldAirmenaretheidealforceforpersonnelrecoveryandcombat
searchandrescue.
APJ'sprimaryfunctionisasapersonnelrecoveryspecialist,withemergencymedicalcapabilitiesin
humanitarianandcombatenvironments.PJsdeployinanyavailablemanner,toincludeairlandsea
tactics,intorestrictedenvironmentstoauthenticate,extract,treat,stabilizeandevacuateinjured
personnel.PJsparticipateinsearchandrescue,combatsearchandrescue,recoverysupportfor
NASAandconductotheroperationsasappropriate.
PararescuemenareamongthemosthighlytrainedemergencytraumaspecialistsintheU.S.military.
TheymustmaintainanEmergencyMedicalTechnicianParamedicqualificationthroughouttheir
careers.Withthismedicalandrescueexpertise,alongwiththeirdeploymentcapabilities,PJsareable
toperformlifesavingmissionsintheworld'smostremoteareas.
Theirmotto,"ThatOthersMayLive,"reaffirmsthePJ'scommitmenttosavinglivesandselfsacrifice.
WithoutPJs,thousandsofservicemembersandcivilianswouldhavebeenunnecessarilylostinpast
conflictsandnaturaldisasters.
Training
PararescuemenenduresomeofthetoughesttrainingofferedintheU.S.military.Theirtraining,as
wellastheiruniquemission,earnsthemtherighttowearthemaroonberet.Theycompletethesame
technicaltrainingasEMTParamedics,plusthefollowingphysicalandspecializedtraining:
IndoctrinationCourse,LacklandAirForceBase,Texas
This10weekindoctrinationcoursetrainsfuturePJsthroughextensivephysicalconditioning.
Trainingaccomplishedatthiscourseincludesphysiologicaltraining,obstaclecourse,rucksack
marches,divephysics,divetables,metricmanipulations,medicalterminology,cardiopulmonary
resuscitation,weaponsqualifications,PJhistoryandleadershipreactioncourse.
U.S.ArmyAirborneSchool,FortBenning,Ga.
Traineeslearnthebasicparachutingskillsrequiredtoinfiltrateanobjectiveareabystaticlineairdrop
inathreeweekcourse.
U.S.A.F.CombatDiverCourse,PanamaCity,Fla.
Traineesbecomecombatdivers,learningtouseSCUBAandclosedcircuitdivingequipmentto
covertlyinfiltratedeniedareas,conductsubsurfacesearchesandbasicrecoveryoperations.Thesix
weekcourseprovidestrainingtodepthsof130feet,stressingdevelopmentofmaximumunderwater
mobilityundervariousoperatingconditions.
U.S.NavyUnderwaterEgressTraining,PensacolaNavalAirStation,Fla.
Thiscourseteacheshowtosafelyescapefromanaircraftthathasditchedinthewater.Theoneday
instructionincludesprinciples,proceduresandtechniquesnecessarytogetoutofasinkingaircraft.
U.S.AirForceBasicSurvivalSchool,FairchildAFB,Wash.
Thistwoandahalfweekcourseteachesbasicsurvivaltechniquesforremoteareas.Instruction
includesprinciples,procedures,equipmentandtechniques,whichenableindividualstosurvive,
regardlessofclimaticconditionsorunfriendlyenvironmentsandreturnhome.
U.S.ArmyMilitaryFreeFallParachutistSchool,FortBragg,N.C.,andYumaProvingGrounds,Ariz.
Thiscourseinstructstraineesinfreefallparachutingprocedures.Thefiveweekcourseprovideswind
tunneltraining,inairinstructionfocusingonstudentstability,aerialmaneuvers,airsenseand

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parachuteopeningprocedures.
ParamedicCourse,KirtlandAFB,N.M.
This22weekcourseteacheshowtomanagetraumapatientspriortoevacuationandprovide
emergencymedicaltreatment.Upongraduation,anEMTParamediccertificationisawardedthrough
theNationalRegistry.
PararescueRecoverySpecialistCourse,KirtlandAFB,N.M.
Qualifiesairmenaspararescuerecoveryspecialistsforassignmenttoanypararescueunitworldwide.
The24weektrainingincludesfieldmedicalcareandextricationbasics,fieldtactics,mountaineering,
combattactics,advancedparachutingandhelicopterinsertion/extraction.
PointofContact
RecruitmentLiasion/PublicAffairs(850)8844246DSN5794246
229CodyAve,Ste103
HurlburtField,FL32544
afsoc.pa@hurlburt.af.mil
SourceofInformation:
http://www.afsoc.af.mil/library/facts...
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Tosortofgetintoourreading,Iamaddingvariousinformationallinks,etcwhichwillgivethose
notsofamiliarwiththeworkofthePararescueSpecialOpsgroupsjustanideaofsomeofwhat
theydoeverydaytosavelives.
Thisisagreatvideofromyoutubetitled:
UnitedStatesAirForcePararescueTribute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IB_9m...
Thisisagreatvideoshowingexactlywhattheydo:
AirForceSpecialOperationsPararescuePJ
BestCSARforceintheworld
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC7qfU...
USAFCombatSearchandRescuePJParajumper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFnghv...
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Herearesomeotherinterestinglinks:
AirForcePJmedic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F_FtN...
AirForcePJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrIi5F...
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All,
Weareofficiallykickingoffthisbuddyreadtoday.Wewelcomeanybodyandeverybodywhois
interestedinreadingaboutthePJsandthisbook.
Makesuretousethegoodreadsspoilerhtmlwhenaddingcommentsbeforethetexttobeadded
putin<thenthewordspoilerandthena>whileattheendoftheaddedtextmakesuretoadd
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Jun12,201102:47AM

I'monlytwochaptersinto
byMichaelHirshandfinditinterestingreadingsofar.I'mnot
goingtomentionanythingthatwouldputitintheguiseof"spoiler"category.Iwillsaythatitisan
interestingreadformebecauseofmycareerasanAirForcePublicAffairsprofessionalwhohas
deployedoverseasduringthattimeframe.Yes,I'vedonealittlebitofworkwithPJ's,althoughI've
beenattachedtoaC130unitformostofmycareer.Professionally,it'sinterestingformetoseethe
stuffthattheauthorfeelsisimportant.I'llpostmycommentsmorespecificallywhenIfinishthis
read.Again,I'mgoingtorefrainfromspecificcommentsatthistimesoIdon'tspoilanybodyelse's
read.
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Jeffrey,wearegladthatyouarereadingthebookwithus.Welcome.Onthebuddyreads
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likewedescribedinmessagethree,
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Wewouldlovetoreadallofyourcommentssotrythespoilerhtmloutandyoucanpostrightalong
onthebuddyreadthreads.
Iamsurethatwithyourbackgroundthatyouwillfinditaninterestingreadandwillhavesome
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I'msohappytohavecomeacrossthisbookalthoughImaynotfinishitbythefinishdate.It
strikesclosetohomeasI'mwaitingformyPJboyfriendtocomebackfromIraqinSeptember.I
lookforwardtoreadingthereviewsandcomments.
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HiIrina,nopressurewithtimelimits,justreadthebookandenjoyandI'llbeinterestedtohear
yourthoughtsonthestorywhenyougettime.Bestwishesforyourboyfriendssafereturnin
September,notfarawaynow.
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ThankyouIrinaforyourpost.Everybodyiswelcomeandtherereallyisnopressureonanytime
limitsonanyofthebuddyreadthreads.IhopeeverythingisgoodandsafewithyourPJ
boyfriend.SeptemberisjustaroundthecornernowandIknowthatthingswillbesogreatupon
hisreturnforyouboth.Pleasefeelfreetoaddyourcommentshereonthebookasyoureaditusing
thespoilerhtmlwewillalwaysrespond.
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folkswhoarereadingthebookorwhomightreaditwillbeabletocreatetheirownjudgements
aboutthebookandiftheywanttoreadthetextencapsulatedinthespoilerhtml.Ivalueyour
opinionsgreatlyandIknowthatyouarelookingforwardtoyourPJsreturn.
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