Você está na página 1de 26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Amp Mods - Electronics (/Amp+Mods++Electronics)


Editar

84 (/page/history/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics)

(/page/menu/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics)

AmpModsElectronicsTHISSECTIONISNOTACOMMENTS
PAGEMODSONLY
ManyusersbuytheValvekingandarenotsatisfiedwiththetonestraightoutofthebox.
Theseusers(myselfincluded)modifytheampsothatamuchbettertonecanbegained
You are not a member of this wiki. Join now (http://ultimate-guitaroutofit.Itreallyisquiteextraordinaryhowmuchofanimprovementcanbemadewitha
valveking.wikispaces.com/space/join) Dismiss
fewsimplemods.HereisanoverviewofthemoretechnicalElectronicsmods.Pleaseread
thedisclaimerbelow,wedon'twantanyelectrifiedguitaristsonourhands:).

PleasebesuretoreadtheWarningspagebeforedoinganymodstoyouramp.
"...Pullingthechassisandpokingaroundinsidetheamphoweverisdangerousdeadly
dangerous...."

*DISCLAIMER*
Thestandbyswitchdoesnotturnoffthevoltagetotheo/pvalvesanodes(plate)Youcansafely
drainthecapacitorsbyleavingthestandbyONandturningOFFthepower.Theo/pvalveswill
continuetodrawcurrentastheheaterscooldownanddrainthecapstoasafelevel.Rememberto
turnthestandbyswitchOFFbeforeyoupowerupagaintopreventcathodestrippingthevalves,
Alwaysremovethepowerconnectorbeforeworkingontheinternals.(recklessrog)

ThecapacitorsinsidetheValvekingChassisareNOTselfdraining.Be
suretoletthemdrainefficiently.Becareful!
OnemethodIuse(cap47)istopullapowertubewithampunplugged.Useametertocheckthe
voltagesofeachpintoground.Ifvoltagesarepresentuseatestleadwithalligatorclipsclippedto
chassisononeend.Intheremainingendcliparesistorbyoneendandwraptheresistorwith
insulatingtapeexposingtheremainingendasaprobetoprobethesocket.Probeeachholefor
eachpinforapproximatelytensecondstodrainthecharges.Recheckwithameterbefore
proceedingwithyourwork.Ifchargeremainsthenrepeatandrecheckuntilthevoltageisverylow
orgone.Recheckvoltageoccasionallyforsafety.Theuseoftheresistoreliminatessparking
whenthechargedrains.

VK112ownerspleasereadthisfirstbeforemodifyingyouramp.
PleasenotetherearenowtwoversionsoftheVK112thosemadebeforeJanJuneof2011
(wecan'tplaceitexactlybutit'sinthatrangeofdatessomewhere)andthosemadeafter
thatthathavenowbeendubbedVersion2's.WenowhavePDFschematicsforboth
versionshereonthispageWarnings
ThedifferenceisinthecircuitjustafterV2gainstage2andbeforetheleadchannelstone
stackwhereResistor173isnowchangedto100kandplacedinserieswithanew
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

1/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

CapacitoratC105a50volt2.2nfCapacitor.LikethisSignalfromC100>C105>R173
>AGND1.C149ischangedfrom50Volt1nftoa50Volt820pf.C100>C149>AGND1
Thissupposedlybrightenstheampslightly(needsverification)alatheclipoutC149mod
inaversion1amp.
Thischangemayhaveramificationstosomeoftheampmodificationspostedbelow.If
yournotsurebyallmeansaskeitherhereorattheVKthreadatUltimateGuitars"Guitar
gearandAccessories"forum.ValveKingThreadMKII
Thesecondchangemade...
Thecircuitboardtracefromthesend/returnloopsreturnsidetothepowerampcircuit
boardhasbeenreplacedwithaplugandashieldedcablerunningfromaplugnearthe
returnjacktothepowerampboard.Thischangewasmadetoeliminateaslightlylouder
humsomeuserswhereexperiencingintheVK112.TheVK212andVK100alreadyhavethis
cablefromthefactory.
OfcoursePeaveydoesnotofficiallyacknowledgethattherearenowtwoversionsofthe
VK112amp.Luckyus::eyeroll::
Theonlywaytotellfor100%certainisaskpeaveywhenyourVK112wasmadeordropout
thechassisandcheckforafatcablethatgoesfromnearthereturnjackfromaplugtothe
powerampboard.OrlookatR173toseeifitisa100kresistor.Version1boardswillhave
a3.9megaohmresistorinthisspot.
AnyonewithinformationonwhetherornottheVK212andVK100havehadtheabove
factorycircuitmodnearthetonestackdonetothempleaseletusknow.
IwonderedwhytherehadbeenatailoffofpostsontheVKthreadabouttheampssoundingdark
andmuddy.

R100mod
Ther100modissaidtoimprovethegainboostcontrolandmakeitlesstrebly,cuttingand
overallharshwhenused.
(CreditstratoJim)

Ther100modiseasywithminimalsolderingexperience.Justgetaresistor(anywilldo)andusethe
solderleadtogofromleadtoleadonresistor100(whichislabeled)therebybridgingtheresistor.The
r100modmadethegainboostfeatureusableandgreatforaclassicrocktonewiththegainlessthan
noon.
(Creditilyav)

AbouttheR100mod:
Removetheresistorandslama1Mpotthere.
WhatdoyouthinktheNoiseGateonthePeaveyJSXis?

R171cleanboostmod
(Credit65SG,submittedtowikibySadisticSponge)

Thismodallowsthegainfunctiontoworkonthecleanchannel.Theendresultisavolume/treble
boostforthecleanchannelthathelpsgiveitabitextrapunch.TodothismodsimplylocateR171
andcutit.Thatisall!
Originalthread:
http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12702&p=84667
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

2/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Sadistic_Spongenotes:Ihavethemesamodengagedhere,meaningR122isremoved,
meaningthatthegainboostisalwaysengaged.ThisdoesNOTimpactthismod'sfunctioningas
farasIknow.ItsoundsgreatandaddsalittlefunctionalityIcanimagineitbeingsuperusefuland
it'seasyasallhell.

AnyonedoingThisModmaybeinterestedinalsoaddingaBALANCEpottoequalisethebiasto
eachO/Pvalve.Evenmatchedsetscandrawdifferrentamountsofcurrentandastheyagethis
canbecomequitepronounced.IfanyoneisInterestedIwillpostdetailsofhowtodoit.
(recklessrog)

BiasPotMod
Thebiaspotmodallowstheampusertoadjustthebiasofthevalvesusingadialthatis
moddedintothebackoftheamp.Thisallowstheusertodialoutsomeofthesterilityin
thetoneandgenerally"warmup"theamp.
(CreditstratoJim)

Thebiasmodreallywarmeduptheampandtookoutalotofthegrittinessandincreased
responsiveness.Itwasverynoticableinthecleanchannelbutaffectedthewholetone.

PeaveyVK112BiasMod(creditcap47)
ByCharlesPeck06/06/2009
InthispackageIwilldiscussthestepsItooktomodmyVK112sothatitcanbebiasedmanually.
Besidesthepartsthatareshownyouwillneedtoolsforthejob.Belowisalist.
1.Goodqualitysolderingiron.
2.Cuttingpliers(small)
3.17/64drillbit
4.Countersinkfordeburring
5.Drill
6.Multimeter
7.BiasRiteorsimilar
8.Smalldiameterelectricalsolder(rosincore)
9.Ashoehornorpaintcanopenertoremoveknobs
10.Cutyourselfsomewoodblockstopropboardon,longenoughtoreachacrosschassisandnot
toothick
11.WrenchestoremovejackandpotnutsandStandbySwitch
12.SmallPhillipsscrewdriverandmediumsize.Smallflatblade.
Thispictureshowsthepartsforthebiaspotmod.Youneedoneeach.
IftheWeberbiaspotisnotavailibletryMojotone25KLor50KLpot.Also50KTrimmerPot
#
9010105.Justaboutany25KLor50KLwouldwork,theyarenotlockingthough.6/01/12
cap47
AlsoWeberWP253slotlockisa25Kbiaspot.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

3/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Tostart,Iinsertedmybiasprobesandtookreadingsoneachtubebeforeproceedingand
recordedthosereadings.Ialsotookreadingsacrossthe15kresistortouchedatleft
terminalandprobedcenterterminal.Ithenpresettheresistanceforpotwith15kresistorto33k.
Sameastheresistoryouwillberemoving.Usingalligatorleadsontheterminalsandyour
multimeterleadssoyoucanadjustsetting.
Nowyouarereadytodisassembletheamp.Makesureampisunpluggedleavingstandby
on..DrainsCaps!
Removealltubes,powerandpreamp.
Unplugspeakerandreverb.Thereverbhaswhiteplugatthechassissoyoudon'tneedtounplug
atthetank.Justpullgently.Takeoutthetwoscrewsunderbackledge.RemovethePeaveylogo
atfrontandthemetalplateatfrontjustunderchassis.Nowremovethe4longboltsatthetopof
theampandsupportthechassis.Youthenslidethechassisoutandputonyourworkbench.
Nowitistimetogentlyprytheknobsoffeachpotonthefrontofchassisusingtheshoehornas
shown.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

4/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

UseappropriatewrenchtoremovenutsfromStandbyswitch,potsandfrontjacks.Checkstandby
switchwithmmforvoltagebeforeproceeding.Alwayscheckvoltagesforsafety.Thecapacitors
arenotaccessibleuntilboardhasbeenremovedandflipped.VKisNOTselfdrainingSee
Disclaimerabove.Iassumenoresponsibilityifyouundertakethismod.Ifyoudon'thavethe
experience,don'tdoit.Thereasonthestandbyswitchisremovedistogiveyouroomtoflipthe
mainboard.Youwillfindaplasticwiretiethatholdsthewiresneartheswitches.Clipandremove
it.Powerswitchstaysin,donotremove.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

5/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Nowyouwillfindsmallblackscrewsholdingtheboardin.Approximately7orso.Removethem
withtheappropriatesizePhillipsscrewdriver.Withthestandbyswitchlooseyoucangentlylift
andslidetheboardoutoffrontpotandjackmounts.
LocateresistorR205ontheboard.Thisisthebabyyouwillremove,markit'spositiononthe
oppositesidewhenboardisgentlyflipped.Withboardturnedslidethewoodblocksunderthe
boardforsupport.NowyoucancheckvoltageatCapacitors.Shouldn'tbeany.Bewaretho.Ifall
isgoodvoltagelevelsyoucanproceedtounsolderthe33kresistoratR205.Notethisprocess
canbefollowedforthe39kresistorfortheVK212andVK100head.Onlydifferenceispresetthe
potandresistorinseriesto39k.Useaprobetopullitdownoneachpinuntilitcomesout.Clean
outthe2holes.Takethenewresistorandcutoneleadabout1/4ononeendonly.Insertthat
endthrufarenoughtogetitsolderedtotheboardattheleftholeshowninpicture.Beforegoing
toofarthoyoushouldtestplacethebiaspottodeterminewheretodrillthe17/64holefor
mountingtochassis.Seepicture.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

6/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Theboardisshownherewhereitmountsbutisnotyetscrewedbackin.Onceyouhaveample
clearancetogetpotconnectionssoldereddrillanddeburrtheholeinchassis.Cleanallchipsout
ofthechassisandboardareasusingasmallvacuumorblowitoutgoodwithacanofair.Don't
wantanychipsshortingthingssocheckgood.Mountthebiaspotasshownandgentlytighten.
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

7/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Nowinsertthejumperintotheotherboardholeandsolderatthecircuitside.Fliptheboardback
toitsfinalassemblyspotandgentlybendtheresistorwithsmallpliersuntilitmeetsthepot
terminalshown.Putashimundertheterminalsotheleaddoesnotshorttochassisandsolderit
totheterminal.Repeatwiththejumperandsolder.Myjumperisactuallytworesistorleads
solderedtogether.Besureyoumadegoodsolderjoints,veryimportant.Damagecanbedoneifit
isnotagoodconnection.Noticewhichterminalswereused.Inthispicturethefarrightisnot
used.Byusingtheleftoneandthemiddleitgivesyouanincreaseinmilliampsgoingclockwise.
Iftheotherendterminalwereusedinsteadoftheoneshowntheincreaseinmilliampswouldhave
beenCCW.Checkallyourworkandmakesureitisclean.Putthescrewsintheboardsnug.Put
thestandbybackin.Puttheplasticnutsonallthejacksandonlyfingertight.Thenutswillsplitif
overtightened.Putthemetalnutsonthepotsandsnugthem,don'tovertighten.Pushtheknobs
backonandreassembletheampinreverseoftakingitapart.
Rememberwepresettheohmratingofthepotwiththe15kresistor.Nowyouhavetousethe
BiasRiteorsimilartosetthebias.Itisbesttouseanoldsetoftubestostartwith.Thepotshould
becloseenoughtogetitfinetuned.Onceyouareconfidenteverythingworksrightyoucanputin
thegoodtubesandtuneitin.
Nowthegoodpart.Playthedamnthing!

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

8/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

9/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

BiasTestJacks
DonebyJason43onhis212headconversionVK.
>Allowseachindividualpowertubebiastobetestedwithease.Testjacks:

Forthis,youneedtoinstalla1ohm,1wattresistoracrosspin8ofeachpowertubeandground.
Thereisajumperoneachsocketthatconnectspin8toagroundtraceonthepcb.Removeeach
jumperandreplacewiththeresistor.Onceyoumountthetestjacksinthechassis,runawirefrom
pin8ofeachpowertubesockettoeachoftheredtestjacks.Theblackjackconnectstoground.
ThejacksaresoldthroughWeberspeakers.
PLEASENOTE!!!theresistorsshouldreallybe3Wattwirewound.Thisisbecauseifthevalve
shoulddevelopashortcircuitanda1wattmetalfilmorcarbonresistorisused,itwillburnoutand
goopencircuitleavingthetestpointatapossiblyHIGHVOLTAGE!!!Apartfromtheobvious
shockhazzard,itcoulddamageyourtestmeterifyouhaveitsetonalowrange.Ideallythemain
powerfuseshouldblowBEFOREtheresistor!!!!(recklessrog)

AlternativeBiasPot&TestJackPositions
Credit:NikPlayer(sizzlingbadger)5thFeb2011
Thisallowsthebiastobemeasuredandadjustedviatherearpaneloftheamp.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

10/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

11/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Tipsonbias
CreditGioBos

Measuringthevoltageoftheplate,onmyValveKing,theresultwasof470V.Itshouldbethe
sameonotherversions.
Suggesttheformulaforthebias,basedontheplatevoltageoftheValveKing:
mA=[(0.6*30)/470]*1000
0.7=70%ofthepower(suggestedcalculationfrom50%to70%)
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

12/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

30=Maximumwattagedissipationof6L6
470=platevoltage

Recommendedbias:
Coldbias:approximately31ma(50%poweratidle,suggestedformetaltone,tubelonglife,high
headroom)
Averagebias:approximately38ma(60%poweratidle,suggestedforall,tubenormallife,mid
headroom)
WarmBias:approximately45ma(70%poweratidle,suggestedforWarmtone,tubeshortlife,low
headroom)

Thesedatabasedonacalculationofthecorrectbiasofthe6l6tubesonvalveking.
Iwouldrecommendgoingbyearandtaste,from30to45.
StockbiasinmyValveKingwas21,justtoocold!!andmainreasonforthestockcrossover
distortion.

FootswitchDelayFix(C124mod)(onlyapplicabletooldermodels)
Thefootswitchmodisdesignedtofixtheslightdelaywhenchangingchannelsonthe
footswitch(thisonlyhappensonoldermodelssouserswhohavenotexperiencedthis
problemneednotcarrythismodout).Belowisacopyoftheemailcorrespondence
betweenaVKuserandPeaveyTechnicalSupport:
(creditMathamology)

OriginallyPostedbyme!
Hithere,
Iassumethisisthecorrectaddresstosendthismessageto!IownaPeaveyValveking112
(serialnumberK0238806),Ibelieveitisoneoftheoldermodels.AsI'msureyouareaware,
thereisadelaywhenswitchingbetweenthetwochannels.Afterabitofresearch,Ifound
somethingthatsuggestedtheremovaloftheC124capacitorinthecurcuitwouldsolvethisissue.
Couldyoupleaseclarifyif:
A.Thisistrue
B.Ifitistrue,doIneedtoreplacethecapacitorwithanything?
C.Iknowit'snotreallyassociatedwiththepowersection,butdoesthiscapacitorhavethe
potentialtoshock?
Ihopetohearfromyousoon,andmanythanksinadvance,
Hereistheirresponse:
OriginallyPostedbyPeavey
HelloMatt,
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

13/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Thankyouforyourquestion.
Yesthisdoesimproveswitching.Thechangeisremovalandwillnotneedsubstituted.
Youhavetobeverycarefulwithallvalveampsastheycanstoreextremelyhighvoltageseven
whentheunitisnotpoweredup.
Regards
Brian
Fixingtheswitchdelay,asadvisedbyPeavey
TheremovaloftheC124capacitorintheValvekingshouldimproveswitchresponse.Thecapacitor
doesnothavetobereplaced,socompleteremovalshoulddothejob.Asmallpairofclipperswillbe
suffucienttoremovethecapacitor.
(Creditilyavforfinding,PeaveyForumsforsource)

Here'swhatI'vedonetoreducechannelswitchingdelayinmyVK100head.
Firstofall,youneedtounderstandwhythereisadelay.Ifyouhavetheschematic,noticeQ101,
thisFETisusedasaswitchthattemporarilymutestheaudiosignalwhiletherelaysswitch
channels.Thiswasaddedinordertoremovetheshortpopthatiscreatedwhenswitchingfrom
cleantolead.Therefore,thetemporarymutingisnecessary,butitdoesn'thavetobesolongasit
currentlyis.WhatImeanisthatyoucanremovesomemuting,butshouldn'tremoveallofit.
Solet'sgettobusinessthewaythiscircuitworksisasfollows.Wheneitherthefrontpanel
switch,orafootswitch,isusedtochangechannelsthevoltageatR142changesfromgroundto
+14V.C131onlyletsthechangeinvoltagereachtheTriacandpullsdownthegateofQ101very
fast.ThisresultsinQ101mutingtheaudiosignalforsometime.ThegateofQ101willremainat
grounduntilitispulledbackupto+14VbyR138.TheexactamountoftimeittakesforR138todo
thisisdictatedby2factors:TheRCtimeconstantformedbyR138&C130,andbytheVgsoffof
Q101.IfyoulookatthedatasheetofQ101(J174),you'llfindthatVgsoffcanbeanywherefrom5V
to10V.Solet'susethemedianvalueof7.5Vforsimplicity'ssake.Thismeansthatthemutingwill
becompleteandtheaudiowillreturnwhenR138haspulledthegateofQ101uptoroughly7.5V,
whichisabout53%ofthetotalvoltage.Ifyouunderstandtimeconstants,you'llknowthat
R138*C130=timeittakestoreach63%ofthetotalvoltage.Sotakeoutyourcalculatorand
multiply2.2Mby22nandyouget48.4ms(theactualtimeisabitlessdueto63%>53%),this
mutingtimeisdefinatelylongenoughforanyonetohear.
Sohowcanyoumakethisfaster,wellyoucanreducethesizeofC130orR138,butreducing
C130willaffectboththeturnONandturnOFFtimesofthemutingcircuit,soIrecommend
reducingthevalueofR138.I'vechangedR138to1MinmyVK100andfoundthatchannel
switchingfromcleantoleadwasmuchfasterandnotnoticeableanymore.Ofcourse,duetothe
hugerangeofVgsoffinQ101(5Vto10V),youmightnotgetthesameeffectbyusing1MinR138.
Soexperimentwithsmallervalues,470kisprobablythelowestyoushouldgo,butrememberthat
ifyoumakeR138toosmall,somechannelpoppingmightstartshowingupatthespeakersince
you'reinhibitingthemutingcircuit.

(creditilyav)

"SAGResistor"Modw/bypass
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

14/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Nosounddifferenceinlowvolumes,Butwhenplayingloud(Powertubesneedmorecurrent)
TheresistoractslikeaTubeRectifier.
Link:http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/sag.html
Beautiful.

TheresistorlowersthePlateVoltageby25v(Biasunchanged)likea5V4GA.
Alsolowersthebiasfrom40ma(460v,45v)to25ma(435v,45v).
ButwhenIrebiasto40mathevoltagedropis50vlikea5R4GYB.
Ohwell...GotmeaTubeRectifierEmulationSagSwitch.
(creditilyav)

*AlsomadetheDistortionchanneltighterbychangingstheC103from2.2nto1n.
madethebassrolloffat700hz(300hzold).

A/ABPotremoval
*RemovedtheA/ABclassPot.(Madetheampalotlouder)noshitinthesignal.
Hereiswhatilyavsaidhedid:RemoveA/Bpotandit'swires{leavegroundwireperhisedit)
(clip/unsolderthem)ChangeC144to47N(tobe=toC135)oryoucanusetheexistingC144in
serieswithunsolderedC1fromtheA/ABboard.Capsinseriesbehavelikeresistorsinparallel.
Ex.Cap47inserieswithCap47isCap23.5.Nowsolderasmalljumperfrompin8totheC144leg
nearit.Editbyilyav:Thereisagroundwireinthe4wiresoftheA/ABpot,leaveitconnectedclip
the3others.
*ModdedthePItothisscheme:
http://www.freewebs.co.uk/valvewizard/cathodyne.html
*RemovedtheFXloopmodIdidearlier.
*AddedaMarshallSwitchwhichleavestheDistortionchannelwithonly
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

15/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

2gainstages(insteadof4)andEQ.(likeMarshallPlexi).
(creditilyav)

JCM800mod
I'vegottopostitguys...My(old)JCM800/Marshallmod.
Whatitdoes:
Itbypassesonegainstage.Theonewiththediodes(whichIremovedanyway).
Andleavesyouwith3gainstages&theEQonthegainchannel,(justlikeJCM800).
*VKhas4gainstagesonthedistortionchannel,thatswhyitstoosaturated&not
articulateenough.
TheJCM800has3thenEQ&Plexihas2thenEQ.
AlsoIbypassedtheC149,itwascuttingthehighendotherampshave.
*(thisisessentialtotheMarshallsound),(onthephoto).
*Notshownonthephoto,butwasaddedlaterontheDPDTswitch,
toreturntheVKtoitsoriginalsound.
SoundsBEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!
I'vegotamazingCLEANsoundwithgaintill5,YesCLEANsound.
VeryPlexilikedrivewithgainon10.
WiththeGainboostOn.itsHEAVEN.
NoboostingPedalsneededjustarticulatebeautifulROARINGdistortion.
NowIcanactualycontroltheAmpsdrivewithmyguitarvolume.
Hereitis:
ClickmyAvatarforSoundSamples.
orhere:http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8456721
*EverythingwasrecordedONLYontheLeadChanneloftheVK(ontheJCM800mod).
*ThefirstfewriffsGainon3,5,7,10(noboost).
*OneSM571inchawaysfromgrill,ontheedgeofthecap.
*IactuallyliketheCleansontheleadchannelbetternow.
*PlayedwiththeNeck&BridgePUinnoorder(EMG85&81).
(mindtheplaying,Itwasonlyforthedemo).

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

16/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Howdoesitwork:
UseDPDTONONSwitch.
1.TakethesignalfromtheC106&R106junctiontooneoftheswitheslegs.
2.UnsolderR107'sleftleg(onphoto)solderittotheotherleg.
3.TheCenterleggoestowhereyouunsolderedtheR107(lefthole).
*ifyouwanttheC149back:
SolderC149totheVKsideontheswitch,&tothebottomlegofwhereitwas.
SoldertheCentertoground,upperlegofwhereitwas(onthephoto)
Thatsit.
Allitdoesisselectsif2(JCM)or3(VK)stagesgoingintothelaststagethenEQ.
Themastervolumeispointlessnow,asIcanhaveanythingfromcleantoCrunchto
FullonMetaljustbyplayingwiththeGain&ModSwitch.
Iwantedtoinstalltheppimastervolumetomakethecleanchannelcruch,
Don'tneedtoanymore.
ThereisanewJCMmodfromthePeaveyForums.Credit65SG!
Usethislink
http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27933
Addedbycap47.
Readallforinfoandcomment!
TestimonialbySadistic_Sponge:ImoddedmyVK112withboththeMESAmod(seebelow)
andtheJCM800mod.TheJCMchannelfeelsatadthickerwithmoreballstoitbutlessgain,
whilethemesamodeisabittighter.BothsoundMUCHbetterthanthestockVKdistortionand
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

17/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

theyhaveMUCHmoredefinitionandthefizzinessofthedistortionisnowgone!
TestimonialbyLivingExperiment:ImoddedmyVK112andALSOmyVK212withilyav's
JCM800mod.CleanchannelstayedthesameandwascompletelyunaffectedwhichIreallyliked.
WhenyoucompletethismodallyourfavoriteEQsettingswillhavetochangeforthedistortion
channel.Ifyoucanlivewiththat,dothismod.BothofmyVK'ssoundamazingnow,andIwishI
haddonethissooner.Everythingat12oclockonthegainchannelmakesaniceBush
Machineheadtone,butcrankthedistortionandtweaktheEQandyoucannowdometal.VK212
hadtobecranked(justlikeanyMarshall)togetthesametonethattheVK112hasatlower
volumes.IhavealsodonetheMESAmod.Whilebothmodsare,nojoke,10xtimesbetterthan
stockVKdistortion,IpreferJCM800totheMESAmodsincemybandLivingExperimentdoes
"danceablerock"coverbandstuffandsomemetal.IfwedidprimarilymetalstuffI'dgowiththe
MESAmod.
AddedbyLivingExperiment
Justanote:
Idid65SG's'new'JCMmodtoatee,excepttheresistoracrosstheswitchcontactstoeventhe
volumebetweenthetwoleadchannel'modes',asIdidn'thavea750kresistorhandy,anddidn't
wanttorunanyinseries(extrasolderjoints,potentialforworsesoundjunkinsignal,etc).
Anywho,Iputitallbacktogether,trieditout,andforsomereasonmytwomodes(whilethey
soundliketheyshould,whichisAWESOMEnow,thanksto65SG'stutorial)don'thavea
differenceinvolume,justthedifferenceingain/tone.Iamrunningapeaveyvalveking212(oneof
thenewerrevisions).PRS_Tim
(creditilyav)

MESAmod
Itmakesthegainchannelmilliontimesbetter(exaggerating).
MesaandBognerlike(Notexaggerating).
RemoveR122(nojumperneeded).
LeaveR124inplace(Don'ttouchit).
R116to10k(Wattagedon'tmatterhere).(10Khasmoregain,22Khasless...tightnessoftone
dependsonEQandsetup)
Thetonestackcap&resistorarecrutialtoMesasound
C2to470pF
R4to47k
Ifit'stoodarkremoveC149(cutonelegofit).
Thecleanisunaffected.
You'lllosethelowgainoption(alwayshighgainnow,withlessgain[10k]).
*ButstillcanbeveryloworVeryhighgain.
Thestructureandarticulationofthegainnowisfenomenal.
ThegainbuttonnowcontrollsC115(470n)on/off,Soldano(off),Mesa/Bogner(on[tighter])
*Ifyoulikedthegainchannelwithaboostpedal,you'll"Die"fromhappinessonthismod.(ithas
plentyofgainnowonthenormalgain,andplenty&tightergainonthe
gainon.
TheMesamodremovesthelowgainmodecompletely.
Anditlowersthehighgainmodeabitandmakesthesoundmuch,muchcleaneranddefinedbut
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

18/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

stillwithplentyofgain.
Thegainswitchnowactslikeafatbutton.
Whatwasthelowgain(off)nowhasplentyofgain.
Andwhatwaswiththegainbooston,nowisalotmore
definedandclear.
(creditStefan_L_01)

JustanoteabouttheMesaMod:Thehighertheresistorvalue,thelowerthegain.Itriedonce39k
andthisalmostdisabledthisstage,reducingittothe"normal"gainmode.
Itslogic,witha100korsoyouwouldhavethecathodyanphasesplitterwithgain1...
Soifyouwantkeepanoticabledifferencebetweenthe3stagegainand4stagegain,iduse
max.10k.Thisalreadyreducesgainalot.Youcancompensatewithahighergainsettingofthe
control,butagain,the2gainchannelsgetclosertogether.
Ifyouneedalowgainrocktoneandahighgainmode(coverband),leaveitthewayitis,or
increaseitslowlyandfindthebestsettingforyourstylemix(2k,4k,10k,20k).
SadisticSpongenotes:
AfterdoingbothMesaandJCMmodsIhaddifficultytellingthetwochannelsapart.Basedon
Stefan_L_01'sobservationschangingR116to5khelpstheissueimmensely.Ialsochanged
R101to100ktomakethemesamodemoredistinct.Lastly,makesurethatyouuseappropriate
resistorvaluesifyouuse65SG'smesamod.Thisvariesdependingonyourtubesetup,soyou
mightneedtotroubleshoot.Ihave470kand220kanditworksgreat.
I'vealsoputa20kpotinplaceofR116,whichletsmetakethechannellowergainthantheJCM
modetoultrahighsaturation.Note,however,thatyoushouldputa2kresistorattachedtothepot
oritwillsqueallikeastuckpigwhenyouturnitalltheway!
WARNING:Youhavetobeverycarefulwithallvalveampsastheycanstoreextremelyhigh
voltages,evenwhentheyarenotpoweredup!
Youhavebeenwarned!
___

VK112ExternalSpeakerJackfor
internal/externalspeakeruse:
Aswealreadyknow,whenusingthe"stock"ext.speakerjackitshutsoff
theinternalspeaker...bummer!!!
SoIhaveaddedanexternalspeakerjackofmyown...
ThisisVERYeasyand...
DOESNOTREQUIRETHEREMOVALOFANYTHING...
Youwillneed:
amono1/4"standardjack,asuitablejackplate,a11.5'lengthof16ga.speakerwire,
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

19/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

acoupleoffemalesolderlessspadeconnects,adrilland7/8"woodborebitandscrewstomount
thejackplate...
First,
DrillaholeinthebottomrearpanelofyourVK112withthe7/8"bit...
Second,
Attachthesolderlessconnectstooneendofthespeakerwire,makngnoteofplusandminus...
Thenattachthemtothecorrespondingterminalsonthe"stock"speaker...
Third,
Threadthespeakerwirethroughthe"guides"ontheinsideoftheVK112caband
outthroughtheholeinthelowerpanelthatyoudrilled...
Fourth,
Solderthethespeakerwiretothejack,againmakingnoteofplus(tip)andminus(shield)...
Fifth,
Mountthejacktotheplate...
Sixth,
Mounttheplateassemblytothecab'slowerpanel...
Seventh,
Vacuumtheinsideofthecabtoremovethesawdust...
That'sit!!!
YoucannowpluginandrunanexternalcabwiththeinternalVK112speakersimultaneously!!!

WARNING!!!Thiswirestheinternalspeakerandanexternalcabin
parallel..
BecarefultoONLYusea16ohmexternalcabwiththisconfiguration!!!
PeaveyrecommendsaMINIMUM8ohmloadfortheVK112...

Enjoy!!!
MayGodBless,
Luckyman77
_

ThislinkisamodtakenfromaUTubemodandrefineduponbycap47.
Thelinktakesyoutotheoriginalpostdetailingthemod.
http://www.ultimateguitar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25566983&postcount=10147

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

20/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

GainStage#3Enhancement
(byjdoorn01)
Throughamalfunction,IgotalotoftimeinexperimentingwithmyValveKing212.Q103
somehowbrokedownandbecamefused,whichseemedtoaffectthebiasofgainstage#2.
Whileitwasmalfunctioning,thetoneofthegainstagewasgreat.WhenIfixedit,Ifeltitwas
lackingabit.IfoundthatGS3wasagreatstagetofoolaroundwithtoremedythisloss.
Here'swhatI'vegot:
RemoveC149(improvesGainChannelbrightness)
ReplaceR101(150k)witha100kresistor,Iwentwith1/2wattCF.
Whatthisdoesisdecreasethegainslightlyofthethirdgainstagewhileincreasingtheproportion
ofevenorderharmonics(gooddistortion).
Itsoftensthesoundoftheampslightly.ThisgetsitalittleclosertoJCM800territory.Ifyou
wantedtogotheextramile,itmightbeworthswappingthefirsttwogainstagesloadresistors,
R103andR104,with100kresistorsaswell.Ididnot,asthiswouldaffecthowglassytheclean
channelis.
NotethatifyouhavetheJCM800modfromilyav,thiswon'taffectanythingin"JCMmode."
SadisticSpongenotes:YoucanalsogetawaywithremovingC117tobrightentheampaswell.
I'veactuallyremovedboth,thoughthesoundmightwealittletoosharpforsomepeople.Inthis
caseputa470pFresistorinplaceofC149.

50/100WSwitch(VK100/212ONLY)
(jdoorn01)
Here'sanidealiftedfromMesa/BoogieLonestars,verysimple.
IfyouremovetheTextureboard,youcanhavesomethingbetter,imo.Savethe100ncap(C1)
andinstallitinserieswiththe100ncap(C144)onthepowerampboard.Thiscloselymatches
theothersideofthesplitter(C13547nF).Alternativelyyoucouldreplacethepairwitha50ncap.
YoumustusethissetofcapstobridgethegapleftbyremovingtheTexturecircuit.Refertothe
VK100/212schematicfordetails.
Onceyou'veaccomplishedthis,throwaDPDTswitchinitsplace.Locatethecathodejumpersfor
eitherV7&V6ORV5&V4,pin8.Takealeadfromthepin8sideofthejumperfromeachofthe
twotubesyou'vechosenandruneachofthoseleadstotheirowncontactontheswitch.Takethe
groundsideofthejumper,orjustsoldertothatfatgroundtraceandbringthattothetwocommon
contactsonyourDPDTswitch.
Whatthisdoesisdisconnecttwoofthepowertubes,onefromeachsideofthepush/pull,and
deactivatesthecathodeground.ThisishowMesadoesitintheLonestar100Wseries.
*Besurethatyouaredeactivatingonetubeoutofeachpairthatformsthepush/pull.Thatwould
meanyouwoulduseV7&V6ORV5&V4,notV7&V5orV4&V6.
ThisallowsyoutodothesamethingasinaMarshall,whereyoucouldpulleithertheinsideor
outsidepairsoftubestocutitfrom100Wto50W.SincetheVKusesseriesheaters,wecan'tjust
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

21/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

dothat.
Thisgetsarounditandisslightlymoreconvenient,IMO.

BufferMod(takeoutannoyingtreble)
(CreditGiordanoBoschettigiobos)

PleasebesuretoreadtheWarningspagebeforedoinganymodstoyouramp.
Thisisaverysimplemod.
Noteveryonelikestheeffectofhighendbufferloop,includingmyself.
Infact,especiallyinhigain,feelsveryannoyingtreblethatmakethesoundoftenconfused,and
crossoverdistortionlike.
Solution:Lowpassfilter!
Material:oneortwo.010uf50v(103pfor10nf)capacitor
Solderonelegofthecapacitortotherightlegofr174,andtheotherlegofthecapacitortothe
rightlegofr169(thesignalgoestogroundhere),DONE!
Soundunbuffered,buffered:
witha.010ufcapacitoronsend,thesoundismoreorientedtothemediumfrequencies,thepot
"treeble"nowcontrolsthemid/highfrequencies,
cuttingthecrossoverfrequency,andgivingcream.Thedifferenceinvolumeisslightlyabovethe
soundwithoutthebuffer.
withtwo.010ufcapacitorsinseriestothesend(.005uf),equalizationandsoundareverysimilar
tothesoundwithoutabuffer,butmore"open",
cuttingapartofthecrossoverfrequencies.Thedifferenceinvolumeisalmostlikethebufferstock.
IusedaDPDTswitchforthis,positionedbetweenthemidrangeandtreblepot,onecapacitoror
twocapacitorsinseries(bright),theresultistwoverydifferentsounds.
itisalsopossibletosoldera5kpottorightlegofR173withthecapacitor.010ufthatgoestoright
legofr169,soastoallowanfineadjustment.
IuseTungsolReissueV1,China12ax7BV2,SovtekLPSV3

A/ABpotremoval(praticalalternative)
(CreditGiordanoBoschettigiobos)

First,thankstoilyav&cap47fortheinformations.
Ifoundaconvenientandfastwaytodothis.
Unsolderpottexture,andc1
Cutthecentralpinoftheclip(theleftpinistheresonance,therightpinisground,thecenterpins
areconnectedtothepottexture,ValveKing112)
Solderc1,betweenpin8andtheleftlegC144(C144&C1connectedinseries,ineffecta
bypassofthepot)
Thepicturesaysitallmuchmoresimply.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

22/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Ifinsteadyouwanttochangethecapacitor,wemustactashesaidilyav,changeR144,pin8
connectedwithajumperatR144

HalfPowerMod(howtopulltheoutsidetubesonVK212and
100)
(Creditjmjlai)
OneoftheeasiesttrickstoreducethepoweronaABpushpullampistopullthetwooutsideor
insidepowertubes.Thiscanusuallybedonebecausethetwoleftandtworighttubesarein
parallel.OntheVK212&100,thiscannotbedonebecausetheheatercircuitiswiredinseries.
Simplyput,yourampwon'twork.FollowingiswhatIdidtotakeouttheoutsidepowertubes
withoutpermanentlyaltering/damagingyouramp.IalsosentmymodintoaPeaveyengineerwho
replied"Shouldbefine....nowarranty,though."
Thisbringsthefullpowerto50WandIwouldassumetheclassApoweris25W.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

23/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Thekeytothismodisthatheatershavearunningresistancewhenhotwhichmustbematched
to:
1. notoverloadthetransformer
2. notoverheatthetube
3. notunderheatthetube
A6L6tubeisspec'dtorunat6.3V@900mAwhenrunning.Thereforetheresistancepertubewe
areshootingforis7Ohmscapableofdissipatingatleast6W.
Iused322Ohm,5Wresistorsinparallelpertube.Imountedthesetoperfboardandwiredthe
resistorbankstotheheaterplugsonthetubesocket(DON'TMESSTHATUP!!!)Makesureyou
lookatthepinout.Asfortubepins,Ifoundthat440machinescrewsworkgreat.Icrimpedthe
wirestospadesandusedlockingwasherstoensureasolidconnection.

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

24/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

Ialsoaddedacpuheatsynctotheresistorbankbecausetheresistorsweregivingoutenough
heattoburntheperfboard.Ithenscrewdtheperfboardintothesideoftheampandpresto!I
nowhavea50Wamp!

Onethingyouwillhavetoremember.resistorsaremuchmorelinearthanheaterfilamentsso
your2powertubeheaterfilamentswilltake35timeslongertostartglowing.makesureyou
leaveyouramponabout5minutesbeforeyoutakeitoutofstandby.havefunbeingabletoturn
youramppast2!
Whenpulling2powertubesona4tubeamptheohmsettingofyourspeakershouldbe
reducedby1/2(16to8,8to4ohmetc.).cap47

KillingExcessHum
(Creditto65SG,SubmittedbySadistic_Sponge)
SomeVKshavetoomuchhumwhenidling,whichiscausedbygroundingissues.Thishelpsto
eradicatethisproblem.Ihavelinkedthethreadbelowscrolldownabit,thesolutionyouwanthas
youusingsolderingwicktogroundthepotentiometersandinputs.Notethatthisthreadalsogives
detailedinformationonhowtotestanddrainthefiltercapacitorsontheVKboardwithoutsticking
thingsinyourpowertubepins(whichisactuallymypreferredmethod).
http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?t=11148

PeaveyVK112ModificationsQuickGuide
TexturePot/R100conversion
Removewires2and3fromtheP303/313jumper.RemoveC1andR3fromtheoutput
breakawayPCB.FitawirelinkinplaceofC1.RemoveR100andfittwolengthsofinsulated
wireinitsvacantholes.Fittheotherendofthesewiresintothepins2and3positionof
P313.RemoveC144andreplaceitwitha47n400vPolyestersimilartothetypefittedat
positionC135.Fitajumperlinkbetweenpin8ofV3andtheterminalofthenewC144
nearesttoit.Younowhavecontrollablegainboostandremovalofthenoiseinducing,
http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

25/26

20/1/2015

ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics

powersappingTexturecontrol.
Improvedistortioncharacter
RemoveC149,removeC103,fitC149intopositionC103andleaveC149positionempty.
RemoveR101andreplacewithvalue100k.
Decreasechannelswitchingdelay
RemoveC124andleaveitspositionempty,removeR138andreplacewithvalue1M.

AyudaAcercadeBlogPrecioPrivacidadTrminosApoyoElevardecategora
Contributionstohttp://ultimateguitarvalveking.wikispaces.com/arelicensedunderaCreative
CommonsAttributionShareAlike3.0License.
PortionsnotcontributedbyvisitorsareCopyright2015TangientLLC

http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics

26/26

Você também pode gostar