S5X

New Forestry
Control System
System
Description

247
223,5

POWER

82,25

SYSTEM

77,75

MODE

8,5

8,5
10

STATUS

9
10

164,5

10,3
AMP Stecker
AMP Connector

14

15
29

28
42

16

52,5

S5X New Forestry Control System

System Description
Overview
DESCRIPTION

The Sauer-Danfoss New Forestry System combines the capabilities of modern digital
electronics with the worldwide proven Sauer-Danfoss hydrostatic components, to
enhance the machine performance and operation.
The microprocessor-based S5X provides the necessary performance for a flexible and
future oriented drive control concept.
With easy-to-change parameters (in software) it is possible to make an individual setup
for different machine types.
It is possible to select between several kinds of input like buttons or levers or to get
inputs via CAN on machines which sophisticated Man Machine Interfaces.

FEATURES

Environmentally proofed for mobile applications.

Supply voltage 12 VDC or 24 VDC.
Software changes without hardware operations.
Individual setup per software possible.

SYSTEM COMPONENTS

S5X-XX G2 AMP K167C S5X Electronic with CAN

Manual Graphic Interface, english

(512208)

Manual SUSMIC-DIA 1/3, english

(512209)

2001, Sauer-Danfoss
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S5X New Forestry Control System

System Description
Dimensions
LED OVERVIEW
247

7
6

223,5

5
POWER

4
82,25

SYSTEM

77,75

MODE

8,5

8,5
10

STATUS

9
10

164,5

10,3

14

15

28

29

16

52,5

42

S5X

Mounting slots

AMP connectors

Diagnostic LED red

Error check

(STATUS)

Lights up if an error is detected.

Diagnostic LED yellow

Software check

(MODE)

Flashes with approx. 0.5Hz (slow), if the program is running fine.

Flashes with approx. 5Hz (fast), if no program is loaded.

Shining if in setup mode.

Diagnostic LED green

5VDC internal

(SYSTEM)

Lights up if 5VDC internal is O.K.

Diagnostic LED green

Battery after ignition switch

(POWER)

Lights up if the battery voltage is connected after ignition.

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S5X New Forestry Control System

System Description
System Block Diagram
SYSTEM BLOCK DIAGRAM

PPU gearbox RPM

EGAS
M

PPU engine RPM

Engine

Shown position: Neutral

Shown position: gearbox feedback inactive

Shown position: Transport

Shown position: 1st gear

Shown position: Stabilizer inactive

Shown position: Work brake inactive

Shown position: Chair forward

PPU motor RPM

Forward

Reverse

Pump
valve

Motor
valve

Prop
Out

Timer

Prop
Out

Automotive
control

Timer

Prop
Out

Timer
Front pedal

Dig
Out

1st gear valve

Dig
Out

2nd gear valve

Dig
Out

Brake valve

Dig
Out

Stabilizer valve

Rear pedal
RV

Inch
potentiometer

Prop
Out

D
RV

Forward
Neutral
Reverse

FNR-Switch

Gearbox
feedback

Toggle switch
Transport/work

Gear select
1st/2nd gear

DI

Stabilizer
active

DI

Work brake
active

DI

Chair
forward/reverse

DI

DI

1st gear

DI

2nd gear

Status (red)

DI
Mode (yellow)

RS232 Interface for

SUSMIC-DIA or GPI

Voltage regulator
F
V

A
+

Batt.
12/24V DC

CAN

CAN BUS
S01514a

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System Description
Theory of Operation
THEORY OF OPERATION
PPU gearbox RPM
EGAS
PPU engine RPM

5
4
3

PPU motor RPM

M
Engine

2
1

Drive setpoint

Inch setpoint

FNR switch

Setpoint
generation

Ramps

Automotive
curves

Speed
limitation

Current
setpoints

Antistall
control
Work/transport switch

Engine
control

Prop
Out

Dig
Out

1st gear valve

Dig
Out

2nd gear valve

Brake
control

Dig
Out

Brake valve

Stabilizer
control

Dig
Out

Stabilizer valve

Gear select
1st/2nd gear
Gear
control

Brake switch

Stabilizer switch

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S5X New Forestry Control System

System Description
Theory of Operation
THEORY OF OPERATION
(CONTINUED)

General
The Sauer-Danfoss S5X Mobile Computer controls a hydraulic drive system with hydraulic
pump and motor. The system controls the combustion engine with an E-Gas actuator.
Adjustable Automotive Curves
There are adjustable automotive curves for the engine, the pump and the motor. For
different drive conditions there are adjustable acceleration and deceleration times. These
automotive curves can be different for the three drive modes (see below).
Inch Function
With the inch function, the automotive curves can be changed by the driver for the
whole speed range down to zero speed.
Antistall Controller
The full range antistall controller guarantees, that the drive system uses only the available
power of the engine.
Overspeed Protection
An overspeed protection for the combustion engine is always active.
Speed Limit Function
The vehicle speed can be limited by the speed limit function.
Drive Modes
The system has 3 different drive modes. There are 2 modes for transport (1st gear and
2nd gear). In the work mode, the system can drive with a constant engine RPM value. It
is possible to learn and store these RPM value in the computer, so that the system can
use this stored value later.
Digital Outputs
The system controls 2 digital outputs, to select the gear and outputs for the work brake
valve and the stabilizer valve.
Auto Vehicle Configuration
With the auto vehicle configuration, it is possible to select the vehicle type without any
tool. A lot of default parameter sets are available.
Setup
The pedals and the potentiometer do not need any setup. The setup for the pump
deadband and the E-Gas actuator can be done without any external tool.
Parameters
The default parameter sets are stored in separate files. The up- and download functions
for parameter files are implemented. It is also possible, to upload a parameter description
file with the actual parameters.
Error History
All errors occurred in the system will be stored in an error history and can uploaded later
for service and diagnostic.
CAN-Bus
Over the CAN-Bus, other systems have the possibility, to get information about the actual
status of the system. For example diesel speed, vehicle speed, distance meter, errors etc...

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System Description
System Connection Diagram
SYSTEM CONNECTION DIAGRAM
1
2
3
4

Shown position: Neutral

Shown position: Gearbox feedback inactive
Shown position: Transport
Shown position: 1st gear

Shown position: Stabilizer inactive

Shown position: Work brake inactive
Shown position: Chair forward

5
6
7

Ignition
switch

AMP connector, 42-pin

Battery (+)

Sensor (+)

PPU Input 0
PPU Input 3

Digital Input 2

Digital Input 5

Digital Input 8

Analog Input 0

Analog Input 4

Terminals (+)

RV

Battery
12/24V DC

Inch potentiometer
Terminals (+)

RV

F
8A

Front pedal

Rear pedal

10
11

PWM Out 5

12

PWM Out 0
PWM Out 3

13

Chassis

15

PPU engine RPM

14

PPU gearbox RPM

HST Motor Return 16

PPU motor RPM

PPU Input 1
Digital Input 0

17

Forward

18

Neutral

Digital Input 3

19

Digital Input 6

20

Digital Input 9

21

Analog Input 2

22

Toggle switch transport/work

Analog Input 5

23

Gear select 1st/2nd gear

FNR-Switch

Reverse

24

Digital Out 3

25

Digital Out 1
PWM Out 1

26

Gearbox feedback

1st gear
2nd gear

Stabilizer active

Terminals (-)

Pump forward valve

27

Pump reverse valve

28

Terminals (-)

Battery (-)
Sensor (-)

29

EDC Return

31

PPU Input 2
Digital Input 1

32
33

Work brake active

Digital Input 4
Digital Input 7

34
35

Chair forward/reverse

Analog Input 1

36

Analog Input 3

37

38

Digital Out 0

41

PWM Out 2

42

TxD

CAN GND

CAN High

6
7

Auto vehicle type

Motor valve
1st gear valve

2nd gear valve

Brake valve

AMP connector, 16-pin

RxD

EGAS

3
2

39
40

M
4

30

Digital Out 2

Stabilizer valve

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9

5
6

9-pin
SUB-DSUB-DStecker,
connector
9-polig
(socket
(Buchse)
version)
fr
Service
for
service
und
and
Diagnose
diagnosis

7
CAN-Bus

8
9
Bootstrap loader low 10

11
CAN Low

12

RS232CAN GND
5V tool supply

13

Bootstrap
connector

14
15

Bootstrap loader high 16

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OUR PRODUCTS

Sauer-Danfoss Hydraulic Power Systems

Market Leaders Worldwide

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Hydraulic power steering
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Closed and open circuit axial piston
pumps and motors
Gear pumps and motors
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Orbital motors
Transit mixer drives
Planetary compact gears
Proportional valves

Sauer-Danfoss is a comprehensive supplier providing complete

systems to the global mobile market.
Sauer-Danfoss serves markets such as agriculture, construction, road
building, material handling, municipal, forestry, turf care, and many
others.
We offer our customers optimum solutions for their needs and
develop new products and systems in close cooperation and
partnership with them.
Sauer-Danfoss specializes in integrating a full range of system
components to provide vehicle designers with the most advanced
total system design.
Sauer-Danfoss provides comprehensive worldwide service for its
products through an extensive network of Authorized Service
Centers strategically located in all parts of the world.

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Sauer-Danfoss (US) Company

2800 East 13th Street
Ames, IA 50010, USA
Phone: +1 515 239-6000, Fax: +1 515 239-6618
Sauer-Danfoss (Neumnster) GmbH & Co. OHG
Postfach 2460, D-24531 Neumnster
Krokamp 35, D-24539 Neumnster, Germany
Phone: +49 4321 871-0, Fax: +49 4321 871-284
Sauer-Danfoss (Nordborg) A/S
DK-6430 Nordborg, Denmark
Phone: +45 7488-4444, Fax: +45 7488-4400
Sauer-Danfoss (US) Company
3500 Annapolis Lane North
Minneapolis, MN 55447, USA
Phone: +1 763 509-2084, Fax: +1 763 559-0108

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