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How Bladder-type Water Pressure Tanks Work Pressure Tank Diagnosis

Private well and pump systems include


a well (the water source), piping from the well to the building, a water pump, and a water
tank to which building water supply plumbing is connected.
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Building plumbing fixtures (sinks, toilets, showers, tubs) are supplied with water from the
building water supply piping, and drain into the building drain-waste-vent (DWV) system.

How water pressure tanks work


When water is turned on at a fixture in the building, compressed air in the water
tank acts like a spring: it pushes water out of the water tank and into the building water
supply piping and thus water is sent on to the building plumbing fixtures.
If many fixtures are being run at once in the building, or if the water flow rate produced
by the pump and piping and controls is a modest one, the pump may run continuously
all while the fixture is being operated.
More typically, if only one fixture is running and if the pump and well can deliver a high
water flow rate, the pump may come on and off several times while the fixture is being
run.

As water leaves the water tank, water


pressure in the water tank drops. Since the water tank also contains air, the air
pressure drops too. In the tank water pressure and air pressure will be at the same psi.
Sketch courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates.
A pressure control switch, usually mounted on or near the water tank, senses the
pressure drop, and at a pre-set "pump cut-in pressure" (typically 20 or 30 psi) the
pressure switch turns on the water pump.
See WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL ADJUSTMENT for details of this control.
The water pump, located at the tank or perhaps in the well, pumps water to the
building from the well, simultaneously re-pressurizing the water tank and providing
water to the building.
See WATER PUMP LIFE EXPECTANCY for types of water well pumps, how they work,
how they are diagnosed and repaired.
Because the water pressure tank is connected to the water pump (water in from the
well) and also to the building water supply piping (water out to the building) the water
tank is said to be "floated on the water line" and when the water pump is running water
is pushed simultaneously into the water pressure tank and into the building supply
piping.
The pressure control switch turns off the water pump when water pressure in the
pressure tank reaches the "pump cut-out pressure" (typically 40 or 50 psi) - pressure
switch turns off the well pump.

Readers of this document should also see


WATER TANK BLADDER PRESSURE ADJUSTMENT where we describe adjusting air
pressure in a bladder type water tank to factory specs,
and also
see WATER PUMP REPAIR GUIDE an specific case which offers an example of
diagnosis of loss of water pressure, loss of water, and analyzes the actual repair cost.
The illustration at page top is courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates.

What's the Difference Between a Bladder Type Captive


Air Water Tank and a Conventional Steel Bladderless
Water Tank
Bladder Type Captive Air Water Tanks

Bladder type or "captive air" water tanks (shown in our


photo at left and in the sketch above) store the water tank's air charge in the upper
portion of the steel water tank. Water in the tank moves in and out of a rubber bladder in
the tank bottom. Because the air charge is kept separate from the water in the tank, air
is not absorbed into the water and bladder type water tanks do not normally need to
have makeup air added.
On some captive air water tanks this design is reversed. For example on the
WellMate water tank the water is in the tank and air is in the tank bladder.
This difference can confuse the burst water tank bladder diagnosis procedure which we
describe below.
At WATER TANK CAPTIVE AIR vs TRADITIONAL WellMate we provide separate water
tank diagnosis and repair advice.
Water pressure or water pump short cycling problems with bladder-type water
tanks are usually traced to a problem with the pump controls, with well and water piping

leaks, or less often, to a failure of the internal tank bladder itself - a component that may
be replaceable.
If the water-containing rubber bladder in a "captive air" water tank is defective (it
can become stuck to itself and remain collapsed), the result can be a rapid on-off short
cycling of the water pump. We test water pressure tanks to see if they're empty or
nearly empty of water by seeing if we can gently rock or move the tank.
If the water tank is heavy with water it does not move easily. Be careful not to jiggle
and break a pipe!
Water pressure tanks, their different types, how to identify them, and their repairs are
described just above and in more detail at WATER TANK TYPES.
At What Goes Wrong with an Internal-Bladder type Water Tank? we discuss the
combination of well pump short cycling and a burst water tank bladder.

Traditional no-bladder Steel or Fiberglass Water Tanks

Bladderless Steel Water Pressure Tanks (photo at left and sketch just below) use a
single steel tank interior to hold both the air charge and the water supply.
Modern steel bladderless type water tanks may be coated internally to increase the
water tank life by resisting corrosion. That's what "glass lined" refers to on some water
tanks. (A "glass lined" or "epoxy coated" water tank will not be a bladder type water tank
which we discussed above.)

Bladderless water pressure tanks, because the air charge and water are in the same
container, can lose their air charge over time (air is absorbed into the water) and may
need air added.
See WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD for details.
Bladderless Fiberglass Water Pressure Tanks, such as the WellMate traditional
hydro-pneumatic water tank operate similar to the steel water pressure tank, but
incorporate a tank-top mounted air volume control and offer the advantage (over steel
water tanks) of no risk of rust perforation and leak at the water tank.
At WATER TANK CAPTIVE AIR vs TRADITIONAL WellMate we provide separate water
tank diagnosis and repair advice for this water tank type.
Bladderless Fiberglass Water Pressure Tanks, such as the WellMate traditional
hydro-pneumatic water tank operate similar to the steel water pressure tank, that is, no
internal bladder is used to maintain and separate the tank's air charge and water charge
pressure. These tanks incorporate a tank-top mounted air volume control and offer the
advantage (over steel water tanks) of no risk of rust perforation and leak at the water
tank.
At WellMate Diagnosis we provide separate water tank diagnosis and repair advice for
this water tank type.
At OLDER STEEL TANKS - Bladder-less Traditional Steel Water Pressure & Water
Storage Tanks we discuss this water tank type in detail.

What Goes Wrong with an Internal-Bladder type Water


Tank? Common Water Tank Failures

Water pressure or water pump short cycling problems


with bladder-type water tanks are usually traced to a problem with the pump controls,
with well and water piping leaks, or less often, to a failure of the internal tank bladder
itself - a component that may be replaceable.
1. Water tank bladder rupture: if the water containing bladder in a captive air water
tank becomes ruptured, torn, or leaky, the result can be a very short water draw-down
cycle before the water pump runs,or rapid on-off short cycling of the water pump.
Water from the tank bladder leaks out of the bladder and into the steel tank itself where
it replaces more and more of the air charge until finally the behavior of the water system
is much as in the water tank bladder collapse discussed just below.
A water tank bladder might rupture from age, an internal defect, or if the pump pressure
control switch is defective or is set so high that the water pressure breaks the bladder
but this last cause is a bit unusual since the air pressure and water pressure on the two
sides of the tank bladder's are normally the same.
2. Water tank bladder collapse: if the water-containing rubber bladder in a "captive air"
water tank is defective (it can become stuck to itself and remain collapsed), the result
can be a rapid on-off short cycling of the water pump. A stuck tank bladder prevents
water from entering the pressure tank. There will be no appreciable water draw-down
quantity and the water tank will remain "light" if gently shaken in place.
Watch out: We check water pressure tanks to see if they're empty or nearly empty of
water by seeing if we can gently rock or move the tank. If the tank is heavy with water it
does not move easily. If the water pressure tank is empty or nearly so, it will be very
light and easy to move. Be careful not to jiggle and break a pipe!

3. Pinhole water tank bladder leak: if the tank's internal bladder has not burst but has
a small leak the tank air pressure will (or might) increase above standard air charge
pressure as water accumulates in the air space, also leading to pump short cycling and
an apparent water-logged pressure tank even though only air comes out of the tank top
air valve. Details are below at PINHOLE LEAKS in WATER TANK BLADDER
Why don't we just look at the water tank pressure gauge to see if there is water in
the tank? Well we do. But because debris or other failures can cause a water tank
pressure gauge to read pressure even when there is none in the tank (the gauge can
get "stuck"), we don't rely on just tank gauge readings. For more about water tank
pressure gauges,
see WATER PRESSURE GAUGE ACCURACY and
see WATER TANK BLADDER PRESSURE ADJUSTMENT.
If the water tank is empty or nearly so, then water is not entering the tank. If the
water pump runs but no water is entering the tank, the problem could be a collapsed
bladder that is stuck onto itself, not admitting water. There could also be another
problem such as a defective water pump, a well line leak, or other cause for water not
entering the tank - so you may need to also
see WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS & REPAIR.
If the water tank is "full" or nearly so, then if there is still no water pressure, the tank
bladder could be also burst but the tank may have lost its air charge (over time air is
absorbed into the water - the burst-bladder water tank is acting like a bladderless water
tank discussed just above). In this case you might observe that the well pump (or pump
control) is switching rapidly on and off when water is run in the building see WATER PUMP SHORT CYCLING.
Bladder type or captive-air water pressure tanks and their repairs are described just
above and in more detail
at WATER TANK TYPES.

How to diagnose a burst water tank bladder

If you remove the cap from the air valve on


the top of your water tank and momentarily depress the pin in the center of the schrader
valve, normally air will hiss out.
Watch out: Don't keep holding this valve pin down or you'll lose the air charge.

If water comes squirting out of the tank top air valve, the captive-air bladder
type water tank has burst or become torn or leaky, and repair is needed.
Thanks to reader Steven Prior for the photo (above left) showing water coming
out of the air charge valve on a water tank. Most (not all) water pressure tank
models using a bladder isolate water inside the bladder - meaning that water
coming out of the air valve shows a burst bladder.
Note: Usually in a bladder-type water pressure tank the water is in the bladder
and the air is in the tank outside the bladder. There are a few bladder-type water
tank models in which this design is reversed - water is in the tank and air is in the
bladder - more likely with fiberglass tanks.

A second symptom of burst water tank bladder: if air is found squirting out
of plumbing fixtures it's possible that the cause is a burst bladder in the water
tank; the tank's air charge is being forced out into the building plumbing system.
This symptom won't normally continue once any excess air in the pressure tank
has been lost - but the problem may remain, showing up as pump short cycling.

A third symptom of burst water tank bladder: if the water tank is full or nearly
so and you are unable to drain water out of the tank, a burst bladder may be
blocking the tank at its bottom. A burst water tank bladder can collapse at the
water tank bottom, preventing water from leaving the tank. The result is no water
pressure in the building and perhaps an inability to drain water from the water
tank itself.

At WellMate Diagnosis we provide separate water tank diagnosis and repair advice for
captive-air water tanks in which the air is in the bladder and the water is outside the
bladder in the water tank.

Thanks to Jeff Garmel for suggesting text clarification in this discussion of water pressure tank diagnosis.

How to Diagnose a Leaky but not "Burst" Water Tank


Bladder

Pinhole Leaks in Water Tank Bladder: abnormally high air pressure,


short cycling well pumps
It is possible for an internal-bladder type water pressure tank to behave improperly due
to a small leak between the water-containing bladder and the air space inside the
pressure tank.
While a completely-burst tank bladder (described above) quickly or immediately
converts the pressure tank to one acting like a tank with no bladder at all, a very small
leak, even a pinhole leak in the tank bladder acts differently.
Photo at left, provided by reader D.S., illustrates slow water leakage out of the air valve
of an internal-bladder water pressure tank that has been removed due to a pinhole leak
in the water bladder. Details of this case are at FAQs .
A small or pinhole leak in the water tank bladder will send water "one way" from the tank
bladder into the water tank's air space. The diagnostic clues you will see in this case
include

Shorter water pressure tank draw-down cycle than normal, with smaller
quantity of water delivered before the pump turns on - water pump short cycling

Water tank pressure measured at the air gauge or schrader valve on the tank
top will creep up to above normal levels. Bleeding air out from the tank top will
prove a short remedy and pressure will creep up again. The rate of pressure
increase measured at the tank's air valve will depend on the size of the leak out

of the bladder and the quantity of water used in the building, thus the number of
pump on-off cycles per day.

Unlike the "burst bladder" case described above, in the case of a pin holed
bladder leak, air can be released from the water tank's top mounted air valve, but
no water will exit at this point if the tank remains upright - at least not until the
tank is 100% saturated.

With the pump turned off and water pressure drained from the system, the
water pressure tank will be abnormally "heavy" due to the presence of water in
the air space in the tank.

A case history provided by a reader details the diagnosis of a pinhole tank bladder leak
in the FAQs section of this article.

Water Tank Not Properly Located can Also Cause


Improper Pressure Switch Operation
Iif you place the water pressure tank too far from the pump pressure switch, or at a
different elevation from the pressure switch, the pressure switch control may not
operate properly. Here is what Amtrol says about tank location:
The Well-X-Trol should be installed as close as possible to the pressure switch. This will
reduce the adverse effects of added friction loss and pressure switch bouncing, and the
difference in elevation between WELL-X-TROL and switch.
Really most pressure tanks will work if placed almost anywhere. But if you have a
problem such as pressure switch bouncing (the switch turning the pump on and off
rapidly at the start or end of a pumping cycle) you can relocate the pressure switch to
the new larger tank and run a longer wire to the pump or pump control relay.
Other causes of pressure switch bounce and well pump short cycling are explained at
WATER PUMP SHORT CYCLING CAUSES.

How do We Replace or Repair a Water Tank with a Burst Internal


Bladder?

Be sure to review WATER TANK BLADDER PRESSURE ADJUSTMENT if you are


adjusting, tuning, or replacing the air pressure in your bladder-type well tank.
Details about how to repair or replaced a water tank bladder are
at WATER TANK BLADDER REPLACEMENT.
Our sketch at left, courtesy of Well-Rite water pressure tanks [Flexcon Industries] [2]
Illustrates how air in the upper portion of the tank compresses water in the flexible tank
bladder, acting as a spring to push water into the building water supply piping system
during the draw-down cycle. You'll note that at the end of the 40/60 psi draw-down cycle
illustrated, the volume of water in the tank is nearly zero.
Fixing or getting rid of a waterlogged collapsed-bladder water tank: as we
mentioned above, it's also possible that the torn bladder will stick to the water outlet
opening, blocking water from leaving the water tank. The result will be short cycling of
the water pump.
We discuss water pump short cycling at WATER TANK REPAIRS. In any case the
drawdown volume will be reduced and it's likely that this misused water tank will rust
through soon.
Water tank bladder replacement: on some water pressure tanks, the water tank can
be disassembled and the bladder replaced. You might want to ask your plumber to try
this repair before replacing the entire water tank assembly.
Bladder replacement will involve draining water from the system and removing the water
tank pretty much as if the whole tank were to be replaced. Suppliers such as Wessels
offer replacement bladders for some models of expansion tanks and hydropneumatic
tanks. In general, if you're going to hire a plumber to do this job, we recommend
replacing the whole tank.

Problems with an outdoor faucet installed between


well and pressure tank
Reader Question: 5/26/2014 Gary said:
I have an odd situation, my neighbor's set-up is... she just had a new well and pump put
in 5 years ago. She called me the other day fearful that her well was dry. (the problem
with her first well!) I checked the system and the problem was, as she turned on an
OUTSIDE faucet, one that is between the pump and the house, the water would run for
5 minutes then stop.
After 2 or 3 minutes the pump would come on ands pressure would build back up. I
replaced pressure switch and pressure gauge and inside the house the system works
great! Ran all faucets inside, pressure dropped to 40PSI, switched turned on the pump,
back up to 60PSI and shut off.
This ran for several cycles with no problem. Then we turned on the OUTSIDE faucet
again, same thing happen. Ran FULL BORE for 5 minutes, pressure dropped to 40 then
ZERO and nothing for 2 or 3 minutes until it kicks back on. I feel like the pump is
shutting itself off to prevent overheating but not sure why the pump is not kicking on at
40PSI. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks Gary
Reply:
Gary,
Nice going on the debug work done so far.
If you can take a look at the water for sediment or debris level and find that it's high, it's
possible that even the new pressure switch is being debris-clogged.
Reader follow-up:
Thanks Dan. We live in a high sediment/iron area (Triad of NC). She has a whole house
filter plus a backwashing iron filtration system. She just had (three months ago) the iron
system cleaned/regenerated. Of course is all 'post' the pressure tank.
However, when I replaced pressure gauge and switch, I opened the shut off valve from
the house ever so slightly to allow water to drain back toward the tank it flowed well
through both stems off the line. Also, after turning on the outside faucet and the switch
NOT cutting on as it should we retested the system from the inside, flushed toilets and
opened faucets and it worked like a charm.

I feel it has something to do with that outside faucet. It is not attached to the house, as it
is a frost proof faucet 50 feet from the well near a plant bed which is 50 feet from the
house. Is it possible that the outside faucet is creating a pressure issue? Thanks again.
Reply:
Undaunted by the warning not to speak beyond one's competence I note this as a
working note not an answer: the water pressure control switch companies tell us to
install the switch as close to the pressure tank as possible. Readers have wondered
what difference it makes - thinking that water, not very compressible, should transmit
system pressure uniformly through the system regardless. I haven't yet found the
reason for the "close to" advice but your report might be a clue.
What if, for example, a check valve on the house side is preventing the water pressure
drop in the outside faucet line from being transmitted to the control.
I need a schematic: what are the relative locations of

Well, piping to building, pump, pressure


tank, pressure control switch, outside faucet.
Reader follow-up:
5/29/2014 Gary said
Let me work on that schematic. I am by no means a plumber so I ask this question from
a "ignorance is bliss" perspective.
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But, is it possible for the faucet to exist and work BEFORE the pressure tank? As I
understand the workings of a well system, I thought the water ran from the well to the
pressure tank with aid of the pump and that the pressure in the tank 'pushed' the water

though out the house. If the faucet is off the 'main line' from the well to the house, how
would that even work?
Reply & Reader Comments:
Well it's nice and neat but I've become still more brain damaged trying to figure this out.
Let's see if we can just write down the sequence of connections or figure out the piping
by some tests.
Tell me what's incorrect in the following:
1. Your actual pump is in the well - a deep well pump, either a submersible or a 2 line jet
pump (as I don't see "pump" in the aboveground components list)
Correct. A deep well pump. (maybe 200+ feet, with excellent flow)
2. The pressure tank and switch that control the pump are remote from the well,
presumably indoors
Correct. Yes the tank and switch are in the basement approximately 100 feet from the
well
3. The pressure tank supplies water to the building through a water filter and iron filter
Correct. The water enters the house through the wall of the basement right at the
tank/stitch.
4. We are not sure how water is delivered to the remote outside faucet
Correct. It is between the pump and tank in the lawn.
4.1. look indoors for a shutoff between pressure tank and outdoor piping that you can
confirm (by closing it) shuts off the outdoor faucet
There is a shut off valve right at the tank for controlling flow to the house. If I shut that
off and water still comes from the faucet it must bypass the tank. I will try that over the
weekend.
4.2 If there is none then possibly in an odd piping arrangement the outdoor faucet is
floated on the line between pressure tank and well
This is possible. I can determine by shutting off the in-flow valve to the house. I will try
that over the weekend.

If 4.2 is correct then if there is a check valve near the pressure tank, that would make
the pressurized water flow just "one way" from well into tank and on to building. If this
were the case then if the pump is not running (pressure switch says it's at cutoff
pressure or pressure has not fallen to cut-in pressure) you will see only a brief burst of
water at the faucet (from what's in the piping) before flow will drop to zero.
But flow should continue again if enough water is run in the house to cause the pump to
turn on.
If this is the case it's a troubling set-up.
Reader follow-up:
I believe there is a check valve right as the well pipe comes into the house just before
the tank. It looks kind of like the attached image, except longer and more rectangular in
shape. This sounds like the possible culprit. If the faucet floats between well and tank
and there is a check valve preventing back flow, where does the pressure come to force
the water from the outside faucet? Could the check valve need replacing?
Reply:
all of item 4 makes me suspect the faucet is on the well line between well and house.
That would have worked in the past if there were no check valve in the house, just in the
well (which is a common design).
But if someone replaced parts, added a check valve in the house (say because the foot
valve in the well was losing prime) that would or could result in the snafu you describe
currently.
If you get no water at the faucet and then do get water when use of water in the house
causes the pump to turn on, that'd be confirming.
Reader follow-up:
Ill do that check over the weekend. If it looks like the faucet is floated between the well
and pump, should the check valve be removed? Just wondering what the fix might be.
Reply:
Removing the check valve at the pump will probably let the faucet work again, but if the
check valve was added to counteract a failed footvalve in the well you'll find that the
system loses prime.
Still, going back to your initial remarks, you have water running "full bore" for several
minutes, then pressure drops down, then pressure stops entirely, then after a "rest" the
pump and pressure appear to recover. To me this sounds like a debris-clogged pressure

control switch, with the effects showing up more severely at an outdoor faucet floated
on the line between well and pressure tank. That's because the volume of water in the
well piping would not be likely to be enough to give 4-5 minutes of water at the outdoor
faucet.
Continue reading at WATER TANK BLADDER PRESSURE ADJUSTMENT or select a
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