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Kogara
Posted 30 December 2010 - 08:09 PM
Hello, I'm a third year chemical engineering student and i have to desig
exchanger.
My two fluids are:
Tube side: Acetic acid at 8.90kg/s (from 303 to 343K).
Shell side: Water at 2.5kg/s (from 350 to 310K).
When i have a look to the chart , i can see that this value of S is after th
lecture of my teacher who said: If F>0.75 inachievable, use single tub
use this F = 1 and Np = 1.
I found an area A = 125.208 m.
The problem is when i do the calculation of the tube side velocity, i fou
0.234m/s and the suggested range is between 1 and 2 m/s.
So I really don't know what can i do for finding my tube side velocity b
single tube side pass.
I hope someone is going to help me about that and if i'm not clear, I ca
want.
breizh
Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:05 AM
HI ,
Let you try this resource ,it should help you : F calculation versus type
heat exchanger.
http://www.chemsof.com/exch/exch.htm
Hope this helps
Kogara
Posted 31 December 2010 - 12:59 PM
Breizh:
Thanks for your answer, I try the software but its saying "temperature c
data". And I dont know how can i avoid this problem.
Zauberberg
Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:55 PM
Temperature cross means that the cold fluid outlet temperature is highe
temperature, and if you look at your process data there is imbalance be
For given process information, calculated duty on the hot side (acetic a
side duty is 419 kW.
In simple words, you need to increase the hot fluid (water) flow if you
stream up to 343 degK.
As for the FT correction factor, you have to take into account what type
you are considering for this application. If you are designing for 7 deg
will not do the work.
Art Montemayor
Posted 31 December 2010 - 05:03 PM
Kogara:
Besides not communicating well, you are failing to state what specific
other words, you fail to state and identify your problem in a concise and
than anything else is probably leading you astray and confusing you in
logical, engineering manner. I am being frank and candid with you beca
to identify yourself as a 3rd year student and I am concerned that you s
communicating your work problems in a correct manner. You may bas
you are trying to do, but your inability to describe it thoroughly is also
makes you do unnecesary and incorrect decisions. Do not misinterpret
your work up to now. My intention is to clearly show you how you are
statements and analyses and going down the wrong road to a solution
get a correct orientation and definition of what you are trying to do:
statements and analyses and going down the wrong road to a solution
get a correct orientation and definition of what you are trying to do:
You have failed to tell us the basic data straight up-front: you are trying
pass tube side heat exchanger. You have also failed to state which TEM
applying. (you obviously have not used our SEARCH engine and found
where I list all the TEMA heat exchanger configurations and types. Yo
Of course a tubeside fluid velocity of 0.234 m/s is much too low and yo
suggested velocity of 1 to 2 m/s. You do this just as Kern suggests: US
CONFIGURATION . I would try a BFM type. I personally do not usu
shell in real applications, but this is an academic exercise. You could a
heat exchangers in series, one mounted on top of the other. If you used
sketches and calculations, I could easily sketch you the actual configura
more a thousand words of trying to describe what I mean.
When you discover that you have to increase your tubeside velocity, yo
number of tubes you use per pass. but you can also LENGTHEN THE
length of the tubes). This effect gives you more area per pass which m
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TUBES! So, as you can see, you have
the problem. There are more ways than one to skin a cat.
Kogara
Posted 01 January 2011 - 03:11 PM
Thanks for your answers, zauberberg and art montemayor, now I think
communicating about what i want and explain it well and my other one
First, english is not my native language (I'm french) and I'm really sorry
this my first year in chemical engineering, I was studying materials e
I'm not aware of some specifications like "temperature cross".
Now about the heat exchanger:
My aim is to build a shell- and-tube heat exchanger with two fluids:
Water (350 310 K and 2.5 kg/s)
Acetic acid (303 343 K and flowrate unknown ).
For finding the properties I need, I use different sources:
Perryschemical engineers handbook 7th ed,
First, english is not my native language (I'm french) and I'm really sorry
this my first year in chemical engineering, I was studying materials e
I'm not aware of some specifications like "temperature cross".
Now about the heat exchanger:
My aim is to build a shell- and-tube heat exchanger with two fluids:
Water (350 310 K and 2.5 kg/s)
Acetic acid (303 343 K and flowrate unknown ).
For finding the properties I need, I use different sources:
Perryschemical engineers handbook 7th ed,
Thermodynamicsand transport properties of fluids (Fifth edition) and
Coulson& Richardsons Chemical Engineering Vol. 6.
The result on my researches is this one:
Water (shell side) from 350K to 310K:
- k = 0.650 W/mK. - Pr = 3.126.
- = 0.000485 Pa.s. - Rf = 0.00020 mK/W.
- Cp = 4183.07 J/kg.K. - m = 2.5 kg/s.
- = 984.45 kg/m 3.
Duty is Q = 2.5 4183.07 (350310) = 418 307 Watts -> Aim to tra
Acetic acid (tube side) from 303K to343K:
- k = 0.167 W/mK. - Pr = 5.59.
- = 0.000795Pa.s. - Rf = 0.00018 mK/W.
I can found a problem here now because in your excel file Zauberberg,
J/kgK. I use a formulae with 4 differents coefficients in Coulson & Ric
Vol. 6. for finding this Cp value (and the Pr value) but maybe it's not rig
value, it's sure that I can't achieve it.
Heat Exchanger
m 303 to 343K).
0 to 310K).
book on the subject: Process Heat Transfer, McGrawmperature difference of a 1-2 heat exchanger. After
meters, R and S, Kern goes on to carefully - and in
able or practical to use a 1-2 exchanger whever the
han 0.75. Instead, some other arrangement is required
book on the subject: Process Heat Transfer, McGrawmperature difference of a 1-2 heat exchanger. After
meters, R and S, Kern goes on to carefully - and in
able or practical to use a 1-2 exchanger whever the
han 0.75. Instead, some other arrangement is required
ht up-front: you are trying to apply a 1-pass shell with a 2failed to state which TEMA configuration you are
EARCH engine and found my heat transfer workbook
figurations and types. You should do this ASAP)
ench) and I'm really sorry for the mistakes and secondly,
I was studying materials engineering in France, it's for that
mperature cross".
own ).
nt sources:
ench) and I'm really sorry for the mistakes and secondly,
I was studying materials engineering in France, it's for that
mperature cross".
own ).
nt sources:
0 mm:
m
405
x0.3066 x 1 x 7 = 529.37W/mK.
0 mm:
m
405
x0.3066 x 1 x 7 = 529.37W/mK.
Area of a tube
1.83
2.44
3.66
4.88
6.1
7.32
0.016
0.0920
0.1226
0.1840
0.2453
0.3066
0.3679
0.02
0.1150
0.1533
0.2300
0.3066
0.3833
0.4599
0.025
0.1437
0.1916
0.2875
0.3833
0.4791
0.5749
0.03
0.1725
0.2300
0.3449
0.4599
0.5749
0.6899
1.83
2.44
3.66
4.88
6.1
7.32
0.016
1348
1011
674
506
405
337
0.02
1079
809
539
405
324
270
0.025
863
647
431
324
259
216
0.03
719
539
360
270
216
180
1.83
2.44
3.66
4.88
6.1
7.32
0.016
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
0.02
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
0.025
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
0.03
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
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Uest
0.038
0.2185
0.2913
0.4369
0.5826
0.7282
0.8739
0.05
0.2875
0.3833
0.5749
0.7665
0.9582
1.1498
0.038
568
426
284
213
170
142
0.05
431
324
216
162
129
108
0.038
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
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529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
529.98
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0.016
0.012
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ut
0.02
0.016
1.83
2.44
3.66
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0.016
0.057
0.076
0.115
0.153
0.191
0.229
0.02
0.040
0.054
0.081
0.107
0.134
0.161
1.83
2.44
3.66
4.88
6.1
7.32
0.016
881
1175
1762
2349
2936
3524
0.02
826
1101
1652
2202
2753
3304
1.83
2.44
3.66
4.88
6.1
7.32
0.016
10.9
13.5
18.3
22.7
26.8
30.7
0.02
10.6
13.1
17.7
21.9
25.9
29.6
1.83
2.44
3.66
4.88
6.1
7.32
0.016
152.18
188.56
255.05
316.01
373.17
427.46
0.02
110.12
136.44
184.56
228.67
270.05
309.32
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Nu
hi
0.025
0.021
0.03
0.026
0.038
0.034
0.05
0.046
0.025
0.029
0.039
0.059
0.078
0.098
0.117
0.03
0.023
0.031
0.046
0.061
0.076
0.092
0.038
0.017
0.023
0.034
0.045
0.057
0.068
0.05
0.012
0.016
0.024
0.033
0.041
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1049
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1525
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2541
3049
0.038
738
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2461
2954
0.05
718
958
1436
1915
2394
2873
0.025
10.3
12.8
17.3
21.4
25.3
28.9
0.03
10.2
12.6
17.0
21.1
24.9
28.5
0.038
10.1
12.5
16.9
20.9
24.7
28.2
0.05
10.0
12.4
16.8
20.8
24.5
28.1
0.025
81.91
101.48
137.27
170.08
200.84
230.06
0.03
65.28
80.89
109.41
135.57
160.08
183.37
0.038
49.39
61.19
82.78
102.56
121.11
138.73
0.05
36.30
44.98
60.84
75.38
89.01
101.96
Shell Side
Tube Sice
Water
Acetic Acid
Inlet T, K
Outlet T, K
m, kg/s
Cp, kJ/kgK
dT, K
350
310
2.5
4.183
40
303
343
8.9
1.175
40
Q, kW
418.3
418.3
310.0 K
350.0 K
or
Calculated outlet temperature of acetic acid
R =
1.0000
P =
0.8511
343.0 K
These parameters do not yield a workable F Correction Factor (as seen in F Graph)
QH = mH CPH(Tin -
Tout
as seen in F Graph)
( T 1 T 2 ) Range
R=
=
t
t
( 2 1 ) Range
of Shell Fluid
of Tube Fluid
( t 2 t 1 )
Range of Tube F
P=
=
( T 1t 1 ) Maximum Temperature
hell Fluid
ube Fluid
ge of Tube Fluid
Temperature Difference
125.2
1.5
0.268 in2 =
1.72903
Surface area =
0.1963 ft =
182.369
8.9 kg/sec
1,049 kg/m3 =
8,484 cm3/sec
0.001049 kg/cm3
57 tubes
103,151 cm2 =
10.3
206,302 cm =
20.6
From these preliminary calculations, it can be established that a BEM TEMA type of heat exchanger is
appropriate type because of the Temperature Cross that takes place and the multiple exchangers qua
required to make the total area, stacked as shown in the above sketch is SIX units.
Each shell diamter is estimated as 12". Allowing 12" for the nozzles, this makes the height of each she
This means that if six BEMs are stacked as shown, the total height of the assembly would be 6 x2 = 12
This type of configuration is frequently found in MEA heat exchangers in order to avoid a temperature
In that application, normally two BEMs are stacked together and suffice to avoid the temperature cross
However, in this application, the quantity of units is 3 times that and the height might be a deterrent to
BEM type of exchanger in this application.
m2
m/sec
cm2
cm2
16 feet
m2
m
20 feet
The BFM TEMA type of heat exchanger allows for a single shell to have multiple shell passes by introd
(or multiple horizontal baffles). This type of construction allows the designer to incorporate the pre-set
yield the desired tube fluid velocity in each tube pass.
If the tube side fluid velocity is set at 1.5 m/sec (4.92126 ft/sec) and the tubes are also set as 3/4"OD,
heat exchanger can be estimated, based on the total heat transfer area calculated.
Kogara calculates the required total heat transfer area, A =
Quantity of 3/4" tubes for 1.5 m/sec =
Heat transfer area in 20-ft long tubes =
125.2
57 tubes
206,302 cm2 =
20.6
Note that in order to maintain the specified fluid velocity in the tubes, the quantity of tube passes is fixe
It is possible to fabricate a BFM type of exchanger with 6 tube passes, but in a practical sense this see
be too much welding within one shell. Two duplicate BFMs stacked together would be a much more p
and workable solution.
85 oC
85 oC
m2
m2/pass
6