Some Ancient Greek examples of how "Natural Born

Citizens" were at those times defined and why

Barack Obama would not be ruled as a US NBC
according to their usage

This is a supplemental to Barack Hussein Obama II, Usurper of the United

States Presidency

If we were to go back to Greek sources like Aristotle, we would see that

though the situation of what defined citizenship (and legience) may have
pragmatically varied (being relaxed) in times of dearth or in war (Aristotle,
Politics Book 3.5). But in times of prosperity, the 2 parent rule in defining
citizenship (and a natural-born legience) was not only the ideal, but
preferred as a norm, and appears to have been an ancient means to
"restrict" immigration and growth from those not "jus soli".

By example, Aristotle, the Athenian Constitution, 2.26, (translated by

Frederick G. Kenyon)
“…it was resolved, on the motion of Pericles, that no one
should admitted to the franchise who was not of citizen
birth by both parents.“
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/athenian_const.2.2.html

I still contend that the best and most correct application of citizenship, as it
regards "natural-born" subjects, must be focused on through paternity, the
Father, in US Supreme Court Law.

“Natural born citizen” is a term from Constitutional Federal Law.

In 1797, Vattel's Law of Nations English Edition in London England

translated Section 212 “Indigenes” as “natural-born citizens".

This was consistent with Ben Franklin’s 1775 French copy of Vattel’s
Law of Nations, in which an amended phrase of clarification, “des
citoyens et naturels" appeared as the explanatory of the
“indigenes” usage.

Many of the Founding Fathers both spoke and read French. Those like
Alexander Hamilton, by the time of the Articles of the Confederacy, in 1782,
had read and wrote thoughts regarding his reading Vattel's Law of Nations.
We have yet to hear as to what French Edition of Vattel’s Law of Nations that
George Washington checked out of a New York Public Library and never
returned.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/04/17/2010-04-
17_read_it__weep_by_george_prez_racks_up_300g_late_fee_for_two_book
s.html

Natural Citizens who are indigenous were hence translated as

“Natural-born Citizens”. That is how the English translator views the term
“indigenous” in 1797; and it is likely, based on Ben Franklin’s 1775 copy,
that the Founding Fathers who specifically wrote the Constitutional Article
2.1 “natural born” provision, also viewed it as so defined as well.

In other words, “natural born citizen” was a term more deeply

involved than the generic “native”, those who were full citizens and
classified as inhabitants who made their home and identity with a
location. In the 1700s, with respects to the Colonies, some natives
were original, some were pioneer founders. There was also a
synonymous parallel that could be drawn with the “savage” cultures in which
Indians were “natives” of a land as far as their oral history could remember
(perhaps 600 years or more).

An indigene is from the Latin, “indigena”: in (in) + gen (to beget).

In the Bible, the lineages are that Abraham begat Isaac, Isaac begat Jacob,
and so on. Among the ancient Greeks, the same discrimination was present
and so stated by their writings.

Someone who is “indigenous, is defined as someone who is born of a

particular race that is associated or attached to the country he/she is born
in. They are produced and arise naturally in the locale they are brought up
in, by two domestics: a father and a mother. To be indigenous in antiquity,
they must be attached to the soil multi-generationally, and to the father’s
multi-generational paternal lineage. Oftentimes the name of the people
went back many centuries to their patriarch from which they sprang whom
first inhabited the lands from which they were planted and themselves
sprang up, as it were.

In nature, a crossing of a foreign and a domestic produces a

Hybrid…it is not an “indigenous” species, so neither is Barack Jr. an
indigenous or US natural born citizen, even if he were born in the US
(which two high officials in the nation of Kenya, and Nairobi’s own media
disputes, citing Kenya as the place where Obama Jr. was born).
Liddell, Henry George ; Robert Scott; A Greek-English Lexicon, (Revised
by Henry Stuart Jones and Roderick McKenzie) Oxford. Clarendon Press.
1940...defines the ancient Greek word autochthon αὐτό-χθων as:
"Sprung from the land itself" and as the adjective "indigenous,
native".

Herodotus, in his "Histories", uses autochthon in the sense of both

original and ancient. Hence, one who is native and of long standing in the
land...often in the sense of ages and many centuries before others came and
attached themselves or pushed out those that preceded them.

Herodotus, The Histories, 1.171.5

A. D. Godley. Cambridge. Harvard University Press, 1920, translates as:

“…the Carians themselves do not subscribe to it, but believe that

they are aboriginal inhabitants of the mainland and always bore
the name which they bear now.”

The relevant Greek text reads αὐτόχθονας for the English translation of
aboriginal.

Later in the same translation of Herodotus, The Histories, 4.197.2, the

Greek text reads:
αὐτόχθονα and αὐτόχθονες for the below translations as aboriginal

[2] I have this much further to say of this country: four nations
and no more, as far as we know, inhabit it, two of which are
aboriginal and two not; the Libyans in the north and the
Ethiopians in the south of Libya are aboriginal; the Phoenicians
and Greeks are later settlers.

When looking to Plato for advice, we see that he places the

emphasis on a plural of fathers (2 forefather generations or more)
that are required to be born in the land as well as the one born, or 3
generations born on the soil, to be called indigenous or "natural
born" stock. It is a nuance most people miss in the first reading.

Plato, in Menexenus 237b - 237c, states:

[237b]: "… thereafter we shall exhibit the character of their
exploits, how nobly and worthily they wrought them. Now as
regards nobility of birth, their first claim thereto is this -- that the
forefathers of these men were not of immigrant stock, nor
were these their sons declared by their origin to be strangers
in the land sprung from immigrants, but natives sprung from
the soil living and dwelling in their own true fatherland; and
nurtured also by no stepmother, like other folk, but by that
mother-country [237c] wherein they dwelt, which bare them and
reared them and now at their death receives them again to rest
in their own abodes.

W.R.M. Lamb translates autochthon as a native sprung up from the soil in

1925. The immediate above passage comes from: Plato in Twelve Volumes,
Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University
Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.

The SAME translation was consistently done in the following year with
Demosthenes, when the equally credentialed team of C.A. Vince and J.H.
Vince translated the Greek of
μόνοι γὰρ πάντων αὐτόχθονες ὑμεῖς ἐστε κἀκεῖνοι
as:
"for you and they are the only indigenous peoples in
Greece—“

The passage comes from Demosthenes, On the False embassy, 19.261;

but it is in 19.260 that we learn that it is the "men of Athens" who are the
only indigenous people...not in the specifically mentioned Land of
Greece...but in the place or region in which they found themselves at.
Hence, the translators infer Greece by the context of the speakers words of
implication and apparent intent.

Perhaps it would have better been read to something after this effect:
“…men of Athens…for alone sprung up from the land itself
you are in the manner and place of this region [Greece].”
(Demosthenes, English translation by C. A. Vince, M. A. and J. H. Vince, M.A.
Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd.
1926).

In his Funeral Speech, 60.4,7 Demosthenes in the English translation from

Norman W. DeWitt, Ph.D., and Norman J. DeWitt, Ph.D. Cambridge, MA,
Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1949, states:

4] The nobility of birth of these men has been acknowledged from

time immemorial by all mankind. For it is possible for them
and for each one of their remote ancestors man by man to
trace back their being, not only to a physical father, but
also to this land of theirs as a whole, a common possession, of
which they are acknowledged to be the indigenous children.

For alone of all mankind they settled the very land from which
they were born and handed it down to their descendants, so that
justly one may assume that those who came as migrants into
their cities and are denominated citizens of the same are
comparable to adopted children; but these men are citizens
of their native land by right of legitimate birth.

7] For the ancestors of this present generation, both their

fathers and those who bore the names of these men in
time past, by which they are recognized by those of our
race, never at any time wronged any man, whether Greek or
barbarian, but it was their pride, in addition to all their other good
qualities, to be true gentlemen and supremely just, and in
defending themselves they accomplished a long list of noble
deeds.

Note the pattern:

It is the father,
the lineage through the father,
and the name of the father

that determines one's indigenous or "natural born identity",

in conjunction to the land from which they and their father spring
from.

If the son is not born in the land of his father, he is a foreigner of the land of
his foreign father, even when born in a foreign land.

In regard to Barack Hussein Obama, the ancient Greeks would rule that it is
impossible for Barack Hussein Obama II to be anything other than an
indigenous or natural born KENYAN, and that this is proven by the
nationality and location of his forefathers.

Again, Plato seems to place an indigenous stock to that of great-

grandchildren born in the land...so that if a third generation is born
to the soil, only then can we apply the term native, indigenous,
natural born, autochthon.

Is there some validation in the Greek for that? Yes.

παλαίχθων palaichthon has also found use in ancient Greek to help us

identify and define what a "natural born citizen" is, or at least was, in the
mind and interpretations of the Greeks.

παλαίχθων palaichthon means to the effect of: "an ancient or long-

standing inhabitant of a country or place", inferring that indigenous is
multi or many generations in the nature of the word.

Hence, "natural born" in the sense of how it was understood from the time
the Middle Age monks and other duplicate copied, and/or translated the
Greek Historians like Herodotus, or great thinkers like Plato, is likely to have
been passed on as those who are of the stock of the first national identity
and ethnicity of the land through their fathers, and are able to
MULTI-GENERATIONALLY trace such a lineage in the soil through the father.

Even the Minor Attic writer, Hyperides, offers a solution for when a society
is multi-cultural:

[7] To do so would, I think, be foolish. Granted, if one is praising

men of a different stamp, such as have gathered from
diverse places into the city which they inhabit, each
contributing his lineage to the common stock, then one
must trace their separate ancestry.

But from one who speaks of Athenians, born of their own country
and sharing a lineage of unrivalled purity, a eulogy of the descent
of each must surely be superfluous.

(Hyperides, Funeral Oration, 6.7;

Minor Attic Orators, vol. 2
English translation by J. O. Burtt, M.A. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University
Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1962).

And we must remember that when one traces his ancestry in Greece and
among the Hebrews in the Bible, it is the father who is prominently counted.
In order to have credibility and legitimacy, the paternal lineages of society
were what mattered in determining one's indigenous status, be you a citizen
of and in ancient Greece or ancient Israel.

The 4 earliest tribes of Greece from the times of the Cataclysm and in the
generations before Ceres/IO married Osiris of Egypt and enjoined Attics with
Egypt by becoming benefactor Queen Isis, were: Cecropis (Κεκροπίς),
Autochthon (Αὐτόχθων), Actaea (Ἀκταία), and Paralia (Παραλία).

Ceres appears to have been attached to those of the Autochthon tribal

origins, and as Queen Isis of Egypt, she became known to the Greeks as IO,
or along the concept of:
“/O from this beginning point (the slash / ), we mark our
eternity (eternity like living waters and a rainbow in the proto-
semitic Hebrew was the ‘ayin” or a circle - O )”

Hence, as we see the Semitic language and concept in Europe (such as

Linear A showing that places like Greek had an ancient Semitic dialect), we
find that the ancient Biblical and ancient Greek often meshes and
compliments in odd sorts of places.

In the isle of Crete, several hundred clay tablets were discovered as dating
from the Late Bronze Age, or immediately following the rule of these Syrian
Pharaohs of Egypt (ca. 1550 - 1200 B.C.).

The tablets labeled Linear A and a later set labeled Linear B, used
ideograms: pictures acting as a multi-linguistic dialectical dictionary within
Semitism. These incorporated what was at first a Semitic form of
Mycenaean (ancient Achaean) Greek, transposed against Hebrew, Ugaritic,
and Akkadian pronunciations.

Cyrus Gordon was thus able to show that the Philistine false deity of Dagon,
and the Philistine king of Gerar, were every bit as Semitic as the Hebrews
were. (Biblical Archaeology Review, Vol. 26, No.6,, Nov/Dec 2000 - pp. 60-
61; “Against the Tide: Interview with Maverick Scholar Cyrus Gordon.”)

At or about the time of Egypt pumping money into very ancient Athens, (the
1410s -1390s B.C.), establishing commerce, and sharing the wealth of its
education with ancient Athens... we see that the name of Autochthon
(for whatever reason) first changed to Atthis (Ἀτθίς), and later on Atthis
was subsequently later changed to Athenaïs (Ἀθηναΐς). Athenaïs, as
you may well know, designates both those of the city and of the ethnic tribal
race derived from those who first settled what we now call Athens, having
first settled there after the Cataclysm.

In Latin, a like term as Autochthon (Αὐτόχθων) is "terrigena": "born of

and sprung from the earth" implies a permanency of residence from birth to
a single soil and a single people.

Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus infers this in regard to discussing who

were the indigenes of Britain:

"Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were

indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little
known."
(Cornelius Tacitus, The Life of Cnæus Julius Agricola, 11).

The Latin reads:

Ceterum Britanniam qui mortales initio coluerint, indigenae an
advecti, ut inter barbaros, parum compertum.

In regard to the founding of this nation, the United States of America, those
who swore legience to it at the beginning from July 4, 1776 to the
ratification of the US Constitution, were ruled as "indigenous" by rule of law.
And by a correct interpretation of US Law, we must follow those guidelines
as to what allows for how a natural born citizen in the United States is
defined.

Although we may find a new extreme that may argue that a natural born
citizen Constitutionally requires one to have a perpetual paternal lineage to
the founders…I believe such an extremist position will be very few in
number, and less legally viable. On the other extreme, the fullest liberal
allowance in Constitutional interpretation without violating it, is what
Senator Bayard argued with A.P. Hinman about in regard to Chester A.
Arthur...that a man who emigrates to the US and becomes its citizen, and
has a son born here, as long as the father naturalizes to the US by the
child's 21st birthday, the child born here might be ruled a US Natural Born
Citizen.

But no matter what lenience we allow, Barack never makes the cut. Even
with the ancient Greeks there was an apparent unspoken prerequisite
involving both one's socio-awareness and intelligence in civilized societies as
to one's own ethnic and national /familial identity among these ancients that
seems to have been forgotten and almost lost to us in our own Day.
Again, an indigene is from the Latin, “indigena”: in (in) + gen (to beget).

Someone who is “indigenous, is defined as someone who is born of a

particular race that is associated or attached to the country he/she is born
in. They are produced and arise naturally in the locale they are brought up
in, generally most always by two domestics...but most certainly always by
the paternal attachments to the land and peoples. Barack Obama has NO
such "natural born" or "indigenous" attachments here in the US...they are in
Kenya alone.

In nature, a crossing of a foreign and a domestic produces a Hybrid…it is not

an “indigenous” species, so neither is Barack Jr. an indigenous or US natural
born citizen, even if he were born in the US (which two high officials in the
nation of Kenya, and Nairobi’s own media disputes, citing Kenya as the place
where Obama Jr. was born).

Thus, the Obama ancestry and natural born or indigenous attachment

follows the father, and Barack Obama (regardless of what his forged short
form Birth Certification says) is US Constitutionally INELIGIBLE to the US
Presidency, and is guilty of High Crimes and Misdemeanors as a USURPER of
the office which he now possesses and/or occupies.

I hope I have helped readers to 'discover" or "rediscover" what "natural born

citizen" meant and was understood as by the Founding Father's of the United
States of America, some of whom very likely read such Greek works as
mentioned and cited above.