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Toward Perfect Peace Of Mind

( Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.6 )
Prabhupada: ...visvaksena-kathasu yah. (aside:) What is that sound? Notpadayed
yadi ratim srama eva hi kevalam. Yesterday we discussed the verse,

sa vai pumsam paro dharmo


yato bhaktir adhoksaje
ahaituky apratihata
yayatma suprasidati
[SB 1.2.6]
One gentleman was talking with me in my room how there can be perfect peace of
mind. That we discussed yesterday. Yaya atma suprasidati. Prasidati means
satisfied, fully satisfied. And suprasidati. Farther, specifically prasidati. How?

sa vai pumsam paro dharmo


yato bhaktir adhoksaje
ahaituky apratihata
yayatma suprasidati
[SB 1.2.6]
This is the process, to develop our love for the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
So we do not know. We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody
else. Love cannot be done or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There
must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me. So as soon as there is
question of love, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction,
then love. Prema. Prema pum-artho mahan. So we have got this loving propensity,
to love somebody, to love my family. First of all, love begins from family -- father,
mother, brother, sister. Then you extend your love to your society, to your
community, then to your nation. Or you can extend to the international. You can
expand. But what is the end? You can expand yourself, but unless you come to the
point of loving the Supreme Person, you cannot have tranquillity or peace of mind.
That is the secret. Just like watering the tree. You can water, pour water on the
leaves, on the branches, on the twigs, on the flowers, each and every one very
particularly. But if you forget to water on the root, then everything is spoiled. Time
is spoiled.

This is the sastra's direction. Yatha taror mula-nisecanena trpyanti tat-skandhabhujopasakhah. Very practical example. Just like watering, pouring water on the
root of the tree, automatically you please the branches, the twigs, the leaves, the
flowers, the fruits and everything. Immediately the watering energy is transformed
to every part of the tree. It is practical. There is no argument. And another example
is given. Pranopaharac ca yathendriyanam. You give food to the stomach, and the
energy will be distributed to all the parts of your body. If you want to serve
separately, two sweetmeats to the two eyes and two sweetmeats to ears, in this
way, it will be simply useless waste of time. Simply one sweetmeat, if you put into
the stomach, and immediately you will feel some energy which will be enjoyed by
your eyes, by your ears, by your nose, your hands, your legs, your hair, everything.
This is the process.
So we have manufactured so many types of love except God. This is our defect. As
soon as there is the name of God, "Oh, you go to Calcutera.(?) Not here." This is
the position. People are so much avers. And our sastra says that when you forget
God or when you are not religious... Religious means to become devotee of God.
That is religion, very simple thing. Religion does not mean the ritualistic
ceremonies, that "My religion, the ritualistic is this. In your religion the ritualistic is
this." That may be different according to time, according to the men, according to
the country, climate. That may be little different. Just like we are eating. Somebody
is eating, somebody, somebody is eating something, somebody is eating. But the
eating process and to derive the benefit by eating is the same everywhere. There is
no difference. So you may profess any religion. That doesn't matter. You may
become Christian, you may become Hindu, you may become Buddhist, you may
become Sikh or anyone. There are hundreds and thousands of types of religion. It
doesn't matter. But the test is whether you have learned to love God. That is all
right. Then it is all right.
That is explained. Sa vai pumsam paro dharmo yato bhaktir adhoksaje [SB 1.2.6].
If you have learned to love God, then it doesn't matter what type of religion you are
following. The Bhagavata is very liberal. It does not say it, "If you follow Hindu
religion or if you follow this type of religion, then you will understand God." No. Any
religion, it doesn't matter. But the test is whether you have advanced in loving God.
But if we see that instead of loving God, you are loving something else which is not
God... Of course, God is everything. That is another thing. Without God, there
cannot be anything. But still, there is the central point. It is described in the
Bhagavad-gita that because everything is the energy of the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, but everything is not God... That is explained. Maya tatam idam sarvam
jagad avyakta-murtina. Krsna says that "I am expanded in My impersonal feature
everywhere. But I am not there." It is very simple to understand. Just like the
sunshine. The sunshine is expanded all over the universe. But if you are in the

sunshine, you cannot say that "I am in the sun planet." No, that is not. Sun planet
is 93,000,000's miles away. But the sunshine is not different from the sun. That is
also fact. But still, you cannot say, because the sunshine has entered in your room,
you cannot say that "I am in direct connection with the sun-god or the sun planet."
No.
This is called acintya-bhedabheda philosophy: "simultaneously, inconceivably, one
and different." So everything is God. That is a fact. And still, everything is not God.
That is also fact. So we have to understand this philosophy. Everything is God.
Without God's energy... The same thing, that the whole material world is existing
on the sunshine. All scientists know it. But at the same time, the sunshine is
different and nondifferent from the sun. Similarly, whatever we are experiencing,
that is energy of God. Brahmanah saktih. These are energies of God, tathedam
akhilam jagat, the whole creation, cosmic manifestation. But when there is question
of love, you have to find out the origin of this energy. That is Krsna.
Krsna says,
aham sarvasya prabhavo
mattah sarvam pravartate
iti matva bhajante mam
budha bhava-samanvitah
[Bg. 10.8]
When one understands that everything is coming... That is the Vedanta-sutras.
Janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. Athato brahma jijnasa: "Now this human form of
life is meant for inquiring about the Absolute Truth." And what is that Brahman,
brahma-jijnasa? Immediate answer is janmady asya yatah: [SB 1.1.1] "Brahman,
or the Absolute Truth, is that from which or from whom everything has emanated."
That answer is there, the meaning of Brahma-sutra, in the Bhagavad-gita. Because
we have (to) find out what is that Absolute Truth, wherefrom everything is
emanating, everything has come into existence. The answer is there in the
Bhagavad-gita. Aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam pravartate [Bg. 10.8]. One
who knows this secret... Aham sarvasya prabhavah: "I am the origin of everything."
Mattah sarvam pravartate: "Everything emanates from Me. Everything comes from
Me." Iti matva: "One who has understood this fact," iti matva bhajante mam, "then
he engages himself in the service of the Lord." Why? Budhah: "They are actually in
understanding." And budha bhava-samanvitah. "Oh, Krsna is the origin." That is
repeated in another place. Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate
[Bg. 7.19]. Not easily. To actually, to understand Krsna... In another place it is said,

manusyanam sahasresu
kascid yatati siddhaye
yatatam api siddhanam
kascin mam vetti tattvatah
[Bg. 7.3]
"Out of many thousands of people, millions of people," sahasranam... Sahasranam
means many thousands times of thousands. So a man tries to become siddha.
Siddha means perfect. What is that perfection? The perfection means to stop this
repetition of birth, death, old age and disease. This is perfection. This is perfection.
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanu...
Everyone is trying to be perfect. The whole struggle of existence is going on all over
the world, how to become perfect. So that perfection ideal is different of different
persons. Somebody is thinking that "If I have a nice bungalow and a nice bank
balance and nice wife and children and family, then my life is perfect." Somebody is
thinking that "If I can make my country very happy in comparison to other
countries, then it is happy..." So there are different types of perfection. But actual
perfection is... They do not know. That is indicated, that I am... Because I have
been described, I am the soul. I am not this body. Dehino 'smin yatha dehe [Bg.
2.13]. Within this body there is the dehi. Dehi means the proprietor of this body. So
that dehi, he is, tatha dehantara-praptih, he is changing from one body to another.
One body... Just like we have got experience in this life also, from childhood to
boyhood, boyhood to youthhood. As we are changing, past and present, therefore
after this body is annihilated, na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20], I am not
annihilated; I take another body. That body... What kind of body? That will depend
on my work. Just like we become diseased. As we infect certain type of disease, we
suffer from that disease. This is practical. Nature's law is there. If you infect some
disease, you will have to suffer from that disease. Similarly, as we are creating our
mentality by different types of activities, our next life will be according to that
mentality. This is the law of nature.
But we do not know. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27].
Actually, prakrti, nature, is pulling us according to our desire, or according to our...
The desire is contamination, the mental contamination. And we are creating
different types of body. So our real suffering is the transmigration from one body to
another. That we do not know. There is no scientist... But it is stated in the
Bhagavad-gita, tatha dehantara-praptih. You have to accept. And that is explained
in other places, in Srimad-Bhagavatam. Karmana daiva-netrena jantur deha
upapatti [SB 3.31.1]. As you are creating the situation... In the Bhagava d-gita it is
also stated, yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg. 8.6]. At the
time of your death, the situation which you have created, it will carry you. Because

mind is there. Mind is subtle. Intelligence is subtle. That mind, intelligence and ego.
The subtle body is there. The gross body is lost. But the subtle body will take you to
another gross body. It will take to the womb of another mother. And according to
your karma, the mother's..., by the mother's help you will get a body, and duly you
will come out and begin your work. This is nature's process. It is going on.
prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
[Bg. 3.27]
Ahankara. But one who is puffed up with false ego, that "I am this," "I am that," "I
am big man," "I am small man," but he does not know how prakrti is working... You
may be very big man in this life. That does not mean that you will remain a big
man in the next life. You may be bigger or you may be smaller, according, karmana,
what you are doing. The same example: Suppose you are prime minister, but if you
have contaminated some disease, you must suffer. It is not that nature will excuse
you, "Oh, you are prime minister. You have infected this disease, and you will not
suffer." No. You have to.
So it is the question of creating the mind, the intelligence. Therefore if you
constantly keep yourself, your mind, absorbed in Krsna, then you get next time,
next life, a body like Krsna, which means sac-cid-ananda-vigraha. Isvarah paramah
krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1]. Krsna's body is not like us. But we think
that Krsna is like us. That is also condemned in the Bhagavad-gita: avajananti mam
mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11]. "The rascal fools, they think Me as
ordinary human being." They, all the big, big acaryas of our country, Sankaracarya,
Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Nimbarka, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, many, many
big, big stalwarts, they have accepted, krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. Are they fools
that they are worshiping a human being? Are they fools, so big, big scholars,
stalwarts? No. Only the fools consider that Krsna is ordinary human being. He
comes to give us lesson what is actually God. God is Krsna. Krsnas tu bhagavan
svayam. Therefore it is His mercy that He comes before us to show what is actually
God. But Krsna says, avajananti mam mudha manusim... [Bg. 9.11]. Somebody
says, "Well, God, why God will come? He is so big. Why He will come?" But why He
will not come? If He is so big, why you restrict Him not to come? If He is very big,
is it under your laws that He will not come? If He is very big, then He has the
freedom to come. You cannot restrict.
Therefore Krsna says, sambhavamy atma-mayaya: [Bg. 4.6] "Under My own laws I
come." Not that by your laws. Just like as we go somewhere, sometimes we are put

into the prison house, not by my personal law, by the law of the state. Similarly,
this is a prison house. This whole universe, material universe, is a prison house.
There is no freedom. We are thinking that we are free, but actually, nobody has got
freedom. A little contamination of disease, immediately you are diseased. Where is
your freedom? If you eat a little more than you can digest, immediately there is
disease. So where is your freedom? So therefore we are called conditioned soul.
Prakrteh kriyamanani. Prakrti is taking care of. In another place Krsna says,
isvarah sarva-bhutanam
hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati
bhramayan sarva-bhutani
yantrarudhani mayaya
[Bg. 18.61]
The maya has given this vehicle, this body, and we are put into this. And Krsna, or
Isvara, or the Paramatma, is also within this body. So as you wanted in your past
life, Krsna has given you through the agency of maya a type of body, and you are
moving according to your desire. This is called karmana daiva-netrena. Therefore
we have to understand this subtle knowledge.
But in the modern educational system, there is no such thing, although the
Bhagavad-gita is there and it is the property of India, at least... Because it was
spoken, the science of Bhagavad-gita... It was spoken long, long ago -- that is
stated in the Bhagavad-gita -- in the sun planet.
imam vivasvate yogam
proktavan aham avyayam
vivasvan manave praha
manur iksvakave 'bravit
[Bg. 4.1]
Everything is there. How important this Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam,
Krsna consciousness. Krsna consciousness movement means we are not
manufacturing anything by our fertile brain. No. We don't create anything. We
simply repeat, but we try to explain for modern understanding. That's all.
Otherwise there is no question of manufacturing. Because nobody can manufacture
the perfect knowledge, because we are all imperfect. Our senses are imperfect.
However we may be learned, but the senses are imperfect. Therefore we cannot
give perfect knowledge. Perfect knowledge can be received from higher authorities.
Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita (it is) said,

evam parampara-praptam
imam rajarsayo viduh
sa kaleneha mahata
yogo nastah parantapa
[Bg. 4.2]
As soon as the process of receiving perfect knowledge is lost, then the original
purpose is lost.
So it becomes sometimes lost. When the parampara system... Just like nowadays,
everyone is proud of reading Bhagavad-gita, but he interprets in his own way.
Everyone is at liberty to interpret Bhagavad-gita as he likes. That is the modern
proposal. So there are 664 editions of Bhagavad-gita. Everyone is commenting in
his own way. I have heard that there is one doctor, some rele(?). He has interpreted
Bhagavad-gita as the talks between a patient and a physician. You see? So this is
going on. Everyone whimsically, he is interpreting. Sometimes in our country also,
we see that Mahatma Gandhi wanted to interpret Bhagavad-gita as nonviolence. It
is very difficult to prove, because Bhagavad-gita is spoken in the Battlefield of
Kuruksetra. (laughs) So how you can prove nonviolence? So it is a difficult job. So
that is not the process of understanding Bhagavad-gita. Bhagavad-gita is to be
understood, as our Swamiji immediately talked, that it has to be received from the
parampara system.
So Krsna said to Arjuna that at the present moment the parampara system is now
lost. Yogo nastah parantapa. Sa kaleneha yogo nastah parantapa. "It is the
parampara system has been lost because there have been so many interpretation,
wrong interpretation. Therefore I am selecting you to make again parampara."
Bhakto 'si sakha ceti. "Why You are entrusting me? I am not a Vedantist. I am not a
sannyasi. I am not very learned scholar. I am military man. So why You are trying
to give the instruction of Bhagavad-gita unto me?" This question may be raised.
Because Arjuna was a family man. He was not a sannyasi, neither he was a
Vedantist. A military man is not expected to become a Vedantist. Ksatriya, he
knows how to fight. And Krsna says that "I will speak to you." Why? Bhakto 'si priyo
'si me: "You are My dear friend. Therefore I shall tell you." So this is the process of
understanding: you have to become dear friend of Krsna. Then you will understand
Bhagavad-gita. Otherwise, for thousands of years you may go on reading
Bhagavad-gita; you will not learn even a word of it. That is the secret. Evam
parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2].
So our business is... We are teaching Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam as it
is spoken by the authorities. We don't add anything or subtract anything. Krsna
says man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. This is

the process. Man-manah: "You always think of Me." And we say, "Chant Hare
Krsna." Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama... If you chant
somebody's name, your friend's name or your relative's, immediately you
remember the person. It is not very difficult. If you hear in the telephone somebody
speaking, as soon as you hear the voice, you can understand, the other side, the
person is there. So the chanting process means to always think of Krsna, twentyfour hours. Caitanya Mahaprabhu advises kirtaniyah sada harih [Cc. adi 17.31]. And
what is the benefit? The benefit is, because Krsna is the supreme pure, you become
purified. Just like if you remain with the fire, you become warm, warmer, warmer,
warmer. Just like in the fire you put one iron rod. It becomes warmer, warmer. At
the end the iron rod becomes red-hot. And when it is red-hot, it is no more iron
rod; it is fire. You touch everywhere; it will burn. The same process. If you remain
with Krsna always, you get Krsna's quality. You have got the quality because you
are part and parcel of Krsna. If Krsna is gold, you are part and parcel of Krsna;
therefore you are also gold. But at the present moment, as the gold is covered by
dirt, at the present moment we are spirit soul, we are part and parcel of Krsna, as
good as Krsna, but we have been covered by this material body. Therefore we have
to take out ourself from this material body. That is called siddhi, that is called
perfection.
So manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. Nobody knows how to
become perfect. They are struggling very hard to become perfect individually,
socially, nationally. But how they can be perfect? They do not know what is
perfection. This is perfection. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. If you do
not take another material..., and do not accept another material body, this is the
final..., that is perfection. That is perfection. That is the injunction of the sastra: na
mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum, gurur na sa syat pita na sa syaj janani na sa syat.
These are the injunction of the sastra. "Don't try to become a guru or don't try to
accept a so-called guru." Who? Who cannot save you from this repetition of birth
and death. This is the injunction. Not that "Guru has given me some mantra. I am
now a poor man. I become very rich man." No. That is not. Real purpose of life -how to get out of this repetition of birth and death. That is wanted.
So that is very simple method. If you become Krsna conscious, if you develop Krsna
consciousness, you understand... By Krsna consciousness means you understands
what is Krsna. Otherwise, if we superficially try to understand Krsna, we will
understand Krsna is an ordinary human being. That is stated in the SrimadBhagavatam. Sukadeva Gosvami is remarking. When Krsna is playing with the
cowherds boys, he is describing, ittham brahma-sukhanu...
ittham satam brahma-sukhanubhutya
dasyam gatanam para-daivatena
mayasritanam nara-darakena

sakam vijahruh krta-punya-punjah


[SB 10.12.11]
"These boys who are playing with Krsna, they are ordinary cowherd boys." Krtapunya-punjah. Krta-punya-punjah means they acquired volumes of the result of
pious activities. Now they have been allowed to play with Krsna. And who is this
Krsna? Ittham satam brahma-sukhanubhutya. This boy Krsna, He is the target of
the brahma-sukha, brahma-sukhanubhutya. He is the worshipable Lord of the
devotees. Dasyam gatanam para-daivatena. And mayasritanam nara-darakena.
Those who are mayasrita, within the clutches of maya, they are thinking He's an
ordinary boy. But He is not an ordinary boy. So by Krsna consciousness, by
constantly thinking of Krsna, as Krsna advises, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto madyaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65], if you dovetail your whole life to these principles,
thinking of Krsna, man-manah, to become devotee of Krsna, mad-bhakta, madyaji, to worship Krsna and to simply... If you cannot do anything, either four or one
if you can do... If you simply come and offer your obeisances to Krsna, you are
getting the benefit. Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam
namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. The navadha-bhakti, sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam
pada-sevanam [SB 7.5.23]. In this way, if you remain touched with Krsna, that is
the perfection. Some way or other you remain touch with in Krsna. These are the
process. Man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh. Visnu and
Krsna are the same. You have to hear.
But people do not know the science, neither this science is taught in any school,
college or university. But although the science is there, it is so neglected. Although
it is the culture of India, the best culture of India, but unfortunately, we are bereft
of this. This is our position. So we are making little our teeny effort, how to make
people happy. Our only business is to make people happy. We have no other desire.
We don't say that "You give us some money in exchange of your Krsna
consciousness." No. That is not our business. We are not merchants. We are
spreading this Krsna consciousness free of charge. We are engaged servant of
Krsna. Krsna will provide us. Krsna will provide us. Krsna says, yoga-ksemam
vahamy aham, tesam nityabhiyuktanam [Bg. 9.22]. Those who are engaged in the
service of Krsna, they have no problem. There is no problem because Krsna is their
protector. So one must have... Now you will be surprised to know that our this
Krsna consciousness movement, our monthly cost is eight lakhs of rupees, all over
the world. But Krsna is providing us. We have got simple a few books and we are
selling. You will be surprised. We are selling 30-to 40,000 rupees per day. So we
have no problem. Because we believe. If I serve to a ordinary man, he gives some
salary. He gives some food. And we are engaged in service of Krsna, we shall
starve? No. We have got that confidence.

So our only request is that it is a great science. Don't neglectfully take it. It is the
real problem of life. We say that you live peacefully, happily, but don't risk your life.
Don't risk your life. Just like a man is living very nicely, very good post, very good
money, but if he is doing something criminal, then what is his next life? He is put
into jail. Just like in America, Mr. Nixon. He was president, everything. Now
everything is at risk. So we say that you become Nixon, you become prime
minister, you become everything. We don't say... You make your profit, like that.
But don't risk your life. That is our proposition. If after this life you are prime
minister, you are very big man, and next life, if you become a dog, then what is the
profit of your life? Srama eva... That is explained here:
dharmah svanusthitah pumsam
visvaksena-kathasu yah
notpadayed yadi ratim
srama eva hi kevalam
[SB 1.2.8]
You do your work, duty. Dharma means duty. You are very dutiful. Do your duty
nicely, but see by executing your duty whether you are developing your love for
Krsna. That is the criterion. If it is not done so, if you are in the blindness, then it is
said that notpadayed yadi ratim. If you do not become attracted by Krsna or Krsna
consciousness, then, srama eva hi kevalam, simply you are wasting time.
So our propaganda is that do everything, but don't waste your time. Make
improvement. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: yanti deva-vrata devan pitrn
yanti pitr-vratah [Bg. 9.25]. Just like by evolutionary process you have come to this
human form of body, you can make farther improvement. You can do to other
planets. There are many, many other planets where thousand times better standard
of life is there. We cannot go. We are so conditioned. Although we are seeing all the
planets, the sun planet, moon planet... They are trying to go to the moon planet,
but that's a failure. So you cannot go in that way. There is process: yanti devavrata devan. If you want to go there, then deva-vrata, you have to worship that
deva. Similarly, if you worship Krsna, you can go to the Goloka Vrndavana planet.
Mad-yajino 'pi yanti mam. So if you have to prepare your next life, so why not
prepare to go back to Krsna, yad gatva na nivartante [Bg. 15.6], wherefrom you
haven't got to come back again to accept a material body? Tyaktva deham punar
janma naiti mam eti [Bg. 4.9]. These thing are there in the Bhagavad-gita. Why
don't you study and understand? They are very good, good scholars, but they do
not know what is next life. They are so good scholar, they are reading Bhagavadgita three hundred times, but they do not know what is the next life. This is their
study.

So this verse is very important. It is quoted from Srimad-Bhagavatam. Dharmah


svanusthitah. Dharma means... I do not wish to take your more time. Dharma
means your occupational duty. Dharma means it is a fanaticism. That is not. That is
not the meaning of dharma. The meaning of dharma, in English, it is called
"religion." And religion is a kind of faith. So faith may be wrong or right. That is not
dharma. Dharma means your constitutional position and duty. That is called
dharma. Just like the other day I explained. Just like chili should be pungent, sugar
must be sweet, this is the idea. Water must be liquid. A stone must be solid. This is
the dharma. You cannot say "liquid stone." No. That is not dharma. As soon as you
say "stone," it must be solid. As soon as you say "water," it must be liquid. So this
liquidity and water, the liquidity is the dharma of water. The solidity, or dharma...
Similarly, we have got a dharma. We are forgotten now what is our dharma. The
dharma is... Here it is stated, dharmah svanusthitah pumsam vis... [SB 1.2.8]. How
to awaken our consciousness to understand Krsna, that is real dharma. Sa vai
pumsam paro dharmo yato bhaktir adhoksaje [SB 1.2.6]. This is the description of
Srimad-Bhagavatam.
So there is no question of the created dharma. Therefore Bhagavata says, dharmah
projjhita-kaitavah atra: "Cheating type of dharma is completely rejected." Real
dharma is to know our relationship with God. Our relationship with God is that He is
the Supreme Prabhu, the Supreme, and we are anu.
nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam
eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman
That is our relationship. God is also a person like us. We are also persons.
Nityanam, cetananam. We are also living entities, and God is also a living entity, a
person. But what is the difference? The difference is God is maintaining everyone,
and we are being maintained. That is the difference. We are all persons. Just like
father in the family. Father is also a person, and the children, they are also persons.
But what is the difference? The father maintains. Similarly, we are all children of
God, children of Krsna. He is the maintainer. So what is our duty? To feel obliged.
That is our duty. That is dharma. Not that you manufacture some dharma, type.
Real dharma is you try to understand what is your relationship with God and then
act accordingly. Your life is perfect. Therefore Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita,
janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. You have to understand Krsna
tattvatah, in truth. Then as soon as you understand Krsna in truth... That is the real
criterion. If you do not understand Krsna in truth, simply superficially, then that is
not perfection. That is not perfect knowledge. [break] ...parampara. Then your life
is perfect. Tyaktva deham punar janma [Bg. 4.9]. That is perfection, if you, if after
giving up this body, no more accepting material body. You go back to home, back to
God, in your spiritual body. You have got your spiritual body. That is within this

body. Just like within this garment or within your coat, your real body is within the
coat, so this body is just like coat, and the subtle body is just like shirt. And as a
gentleman is within the coat and shirt, real body, similarly, the spiritual body is
within this material gross body and subtle body. If you can get out of this material
gross and subtle body, you realize, then you go back to home, back to Godhead.
Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg. 4.9]. Yad gatva na
nivartante tad dhama paramam... [Bg. 15.6]. Everything is there.
Therefore our request is that you read Bhagavad-gita, try to understand Bhagavadgita as it is. Don't interpret in a foolish way. Everything is clear. There is no need of
interpretation. The foolish people simply unnecessarily interpret. Everything is clear.
Where is the difficulty to understand when Krsna says, man-mana bhava madbhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru... [Bg. 18.65]? But one scholar is saying, "Yes,
this is not to Krsna the person." Krsna says that "You become My devotee," and the
scholar says, "It is not to Krsna." This is interpretation. This is going on, simply
misleading people. You take Bhagavad-gita as it is and try... (end)

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