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Perfect
Magnetic
Conductor
and
PML
hello,
PMC(p
erfect
magn
etic
condu
ctor)
isan
absolu
t
isolato
r,
right?
moreo
ver,
what
is
PML?i
couldn
tfind
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defeni
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#2

Re:
Perfect
Magnetic
Conductor
and
PML
Magne
tic:
Opera
tes
likea
perfec
t
magn
etic
condu
ctor,
where
the
tange
ntial
compo
nents
of
magn
etic
fluxes
and
the
norma
l
compo
nents
of
electri
c
fields
are
zero.
This
means
that
electri
c
fields
are
parall
elto
the
bound
ary
and
magn
etic
fluxes
are
norma
lto
the
bound
ary.
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Forall
magn
etosta
ticor
magn
etoqu
asistat
ic
applic
ations
magn
etic
bound
ary
conditi
ons
corres
pond
to
norma
l
bound
ary
conditi
ons.
Forall
electr
ostatic
or
electr
oquasi
static
applic
ations
they
corres
pond
to
tange
ntial
bound
ary
conditi
ons.
This
bound
ary
conditi
on
type
is
availa
blefor
all
EMS
solver
s.
Open
(PML):
Opera
tes
like
free
space:
waves
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can
pass
this
bound
ary
with
minim
al
reflect
ions.
Note
thatin
case
ofa
unit
cell
simula
tion
with
the
gener
al
purpo
se
freque
ncy
domai
n
solver
open
bound
aries
are
realiz
edby
a
Floque
tport.
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Re:
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and
PML
Well,
1.my
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on
was:
isthe
condu
ctivity
of
pmcis
0?(as
define
dfor
hfss)
2.
how
doi
define
PML
ona
boxin
HFSS?
and
what
do
PML
means
?
perefe
ct
magn
etic
what?
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Re:
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and
PML
1)
Since
the
PMC
enforc
es
that
the
tange
ntial
H
field
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is0,
there
willbe
no
electri
c
curren
tson
the
surfac
e,
hence
you
can
effecti
vely
say
the
electri
c
condu
ctivity
is0.
2)
Perfec
tly
Match
ed
Layer.
Select
a
surfac
e,and
then
adda
new
bound
ary.
Use
the
"PML
Setup
Wizar
d"at
the
botto
mof
the
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Re:
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Conductor
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PML

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Please
letme
know
ifthis
comm
entof
mine
is
correc
t
No
waves
can
pass
throug
h
PMC.
Waves
can
pass
throug
hPML
like
free
space
with
minim
um
distort
ion
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r
i
g
i
n
a
l
l
y
P
o
s
t
e
d
b
y
n
o
m
i
g
o
r
a
y
a

N
o
w
a
v
e
s
c
a
n
p
a
s
s
t
h
r
o
u
g
h
P
M
C
.

I
suppo
se,
depen
ding
on
what
you
calla
"wave
".The
bound
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ary
conditi
on
does
not
suppo
rta
norma
l
compo
nent
ofthe
Poynti
ng
vector
.
O
r
i
g
i
n
a
l
l
y
P
o
s
t
e
d
b
y
n
o
m
i
g
o
r
a
y
a

W
a
v
e
s
c
a
n
p
a
s
s
t
h
r
o
u
g
h
P
M
L
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l
i
k
e
f
r
e
e
s
p
a
c
e
w
i
t
h
m
i
n
i
m
u
m
d
i
s
t
o
r
t
i
o
n

No.
Propa
gating
waves
are
highly
attenu
ated
inside
a
PML
thisis
how
they
"absor
b".
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Re:
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Conductor
and
PML
O
r
i
g
i
n
a
l
l
y
P
o
s
t
e
d
b
y
P
l
a
n
a
r
M
e
t
a
m
a
t
e
r
i
a
l
s

N
o
.
P
r
o
p
a
g
a
t
i
n
g
w
a
v
e
s
a
r
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e
h
i
g
h
l
y
a
t
t
e
n
u
a
t
e
d
i
n
s
i
d
e
a
P
M
L

t
h
i
s
i
s
h
o
w
t
h
e
y
"
a
b
s
o
r
b
"
.

SirI
am
using
wakefi
eld
solver
ofCST
andif
Isee
help
for
open
bound
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aryit
isas
followi
ng
"Open
(PML):
Opera
tes
like
free
space:
waves
can
pass
this
bound
ary
with
minim
al
reflect
ions.
Note
thatin
case
ofa
unit
cell
simula
tion
with
the
gener
al
purpo
se
freque
ncy
domai
n
solver
open
bound
aries
are
realiz
edby
a
Floque
t
port."
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Re:
Perfect
Magnetic
Conductor
and
PML
The
CST
docum
entati
on
could
be
interp
reted
as
correc
t,but
its
choice
of
wordi
ng
seems
very
poor.
"Open
"in
the
field
of
electri
cal/el
ectro
magn
etics
engine
ering
usuall
y
refers
toan
open
circuit
,
rather
than
the
"absor
bing",
"radia
tion",
or
"emul
ation
of
free

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space"
bound
ary
that
the
PMLis
suppo
sedto
repres
ent.
PMLs
are
design
edfor
minim
al
reflect
ion,
when
placed
next
toa
free
space
object
,they
should
"opera
telike
free
space"
i.e.
an
incide
nt
plane
wave
will
pass
directl
yinto
the
bound
ary
with
no
reflect
ion.
What
the
CST
doc
doesn'
ttell
youis
that
once
inside
the
PML,
the
wave
is
rapdil
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y
attenu
ated.
They
donot
"pass
throug
h"the
PML,
rather
they
"pass
into"
the
PML
with
minim
al
reflect
ions.
The
state
ment
also
tells
you
thatin
the
simula
tionof
period
ic
struct
ures
[impli
ed,I
believ
e,is
that
the
struct
ureis
planar
],a
Floque
tport
should
be
used
instea
dofa
PML.
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#9

Re:
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Magnetic
Conductor
and
PML
hello
again,
Im
using
PML
setup
wizard
,
itry
to
figure
out
what
does
Base
Face
Radiat
ion
Proper
ties
means
?(
you
can
pick
Radiat
ing
only
or
incide
nt
field).
Ibuilt
a
structr
e
(conta
insa
loop
anda
wire)
made
ofPEC
which
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illumi
nated
bya
planar
wave.
I've
been
toldto
usea
box
which
covers
my
structr
e
made
of
PML.
Itried
them
both.
It
seems
odd,
wheni
picked
Radiat
ing
only,
it
seems
to
block
the
incide
nt
wave,
sono
HorE
field
were
found
onmy
struct
ure,
and
wheni
chose
incide
nt
fieldit
seems
to
preve
nt
return
sfrom
outsid
ethe
structr
e,
which
means
that
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allof
the
"energ
y"
passe
d
throug
hthe
box
into
my
object
.
Doi
getit
right?
Anoth
er
issue
iswhy
doi
need
touse
that
boxat
all?
Even
wheni
don't
useit
iget
result
s
(which
are
close
to
those
iget
wheni
pick
incide
nt
field
PML).
thank
you

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#10

Re:
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Magnetic
Conductor
and
PML
You
can
read
more
about
PML
settin
gsin
the
HFSS
help.
Radiat
ingis
for
free
space
radiati
on,
incide
nt
field
isfor
guided
waves
.
Your
struct
ure
has
PML
bound
aries
onall
sides?
What
are
you
trying
to
accom
plish?
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correc
t
behavi
or,try
using
radiati
on
bound
aries
instea
d.
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a
d
.

Iread
about
PML
settin
gsin
the
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hfss
help,
and
theni
asked
here.
Ibuilt
aPEC
structr
eand
isolve
the
scatte
redH
field
from
a
plane
wave.
soi
have
2
questi
ons:
1.
Shoul
di
close
the
structr
ewith
abox?
2.
why
should
ipick
incide
nt
field
rather
than
radiati
on?
ifi
pick
radiati
oni
get
H=0,
and
for
incide
nt
fieldi
geta
correc
t
result
thanks
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