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By Billy Cox, Herald-Tribune
/ Wednesday, August 19,
2015

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What if just for the sheer counterintuitive hell of it


the government isnt even interested in UFOs? Or at least, not
lately?
Last week, a group of researchers calling themselves the Scientific Coalitionof Ufologyreleased its potentially gamechanging, 162-page analysis of a 2013 UFO event
over Aquadilla, Puerto Rico. What set this incident apart from so much

common dreck was the apparent source of the videotape U.S. Customs and Border Protection, under the Department

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of Homeland Security. This is animpressive pedigree,maybe even a gold standard.And flightstats.com independently

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confirmed an insiders contention that a Fed Ex flight was, indeed, delayed for
departure by 16 minutes as the UFO, sans

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transponder, buzzed nearby Rafael Hernandez Airport.


That last detail put the hook in Dr. Richard Haines, former
research scientist with NASA-Ames and founder of the nonprofit National Aviation
Reporting Center on Anomalous
Phenomena. Since 1999, Haines and NARCAPhave
assessed
and published trends on thepotentially catastrophicimpact
of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) on air traffic safety,
at home and abroad. Given the extraordinary clarity of the
Aguadilla video, coupled with the fact that the nameprotected whistleblower who leaked the footage appears to be
Government UFO footage?Our agency? An

underwater sequence too? Thermal imaging? No

a federal employee, Haines took an arms-length approach


whenhe wascontacted about the images in 2013.

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Given sufficient motivation, manpower and money, one


could create a very realistic hoax here, Haines conceded in

an email to
De Void. However, for a number of reasons, I dont believe
it is a hoax. It does deserve a lot more serious
study for what it may tell us about small volume, generally globular (i.e., contained), dynamic, heat-emitting resources.

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Still,Haines main reservations werent over authenticity. His foremost concern was whether or not the footage involved
classified material. After all, if this is what it appears to be i.e., a single flying object, averaging 80 mph after
plowing
into the ocean, then splitting into two separate flying objects
as it emerged from the water itseemspretty obviousthat
a federal agency has documented evidence of some extraordinary technology. If its one of ours, is this how Uncle Sam
would want to put the word out there? Via UFO researchers?
Really? And if its stealthy hardware from, say China,
would we want them to know we know?
[Restricted access] has still not been determined by anyone as
far as I know, states Haines, and that is one of the

reasons we (NARCAP) did not proceed with any more than a cursory examination of the video long ago when we first
learned of it. We wanted
to (and still want to) play by the rules, so to speak, in this regard considering that it might have
been classified information.
But if Morgan Bealls confidential source is correct, the bureaucrats just don't give a spit.
According to our witness, says Beall, the Florida State
MUFON director who coordinated the investigation, Air Force

intelligence kicked it back down, said We dont know what it is, and said to call the 800 number of a civilian research

organization. Actually there are two to three witnesses, and when there didnt appear to be any interest from the upper
echelon, their attitude was, well, does that mean were free to talk about it? And thats when the leaks started.
Weve all heard stories about eyewitnesses being threatened and told to keep quiet or else. But those are largely

historical cases, and from the 90s onward were not hearing
that from anybody at all. And I think thats probably a
smarter way to handle it, just deny youre interested.
SCU team investigator Richard Hoffman suspects the Aguadilla video trickled into the public domain as more of a messup than anything else. An IT engineer contracting with U.S. Army Materiel Command at Redstone Arsenal in
Huntsville, Ala., Hoffman blames
the leak on a lack of clear guidance on what to do with UFO reports that might
emanate from government agencies. Unlike a number
of South American and European nations, the U.S. has had no
official institutional system for processing UFO data since 1970. Whether it was passed up the chain of command or if it
just stayed with Customs,
I dont know, he says. My concern is that someone with DHS is going to spank someone
from Customs for letting it get out there.

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A student of the phenomena since he was a teenager growing up in Ohio, Hoffman says hes been waiting a lifetime for
evidence of this caliber to emerge. He once interviewed an Air Force pilot who told him he shot gun-camera footage in
pursuit of a UFO, only to have it confiscated and vanish down a black hole. Now, its as if Customs and Border
Protectionjust delivered thegoods on a silver platter.

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it, says Hoffman. Theres never been a single case that's been so

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thoroughly studied. In two and a half minutes, we have an


object that breaks two laws of physics. And weve got infrared

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video, weve got radar, weve got the kind of technology and
built-in metrics you just cant get from eyewitnesses alone.

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We've done the science, we've done the math. We've posted it, and we want more input."

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So did Customs screw up? Or DHS? Or could it be that administrators at either agency really dont care that on the

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Elvyn
Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 4:06
pm

You can quickly run fall into a rabbit hole of conspiracy thinking with this case. They don't care because they
know what it is, whatever it is. HS faked and leaked it to see how quickly it dissimulated. Everything is of
equal weight in the great taboo vacuum.

Billy

Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 5:36

Cox

pm

Clearly it will help when/if the whistleblower steps forward. At this point, the only opinions worth listening to
are those informed by the data in the report, which is meticulous and formidable. That's the only thing SCU is
asking -- read the report.

William

Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 7:11

Frankeberger

pm

What is "SCU"?

Billy

Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 8:00

Cox

pm

Second graph, Scientific Coalition of Ufology (probably should've used parentheses after first reference).
Mark
Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 8:16
pm

My guess is that the conspiracy is starting to want to "warm us up" more and more as time goes on, slowly.
This may be the next level in "warming us up."

Alejandro
Rojas

Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 4:57


pm

Great story!

Bill
Pilgrimi

Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:57


pm

There's just too much historical documentary and testimonial evidence contradicting it to hypothesize that
USAF intelligence 'kicked it back down' because they weren't interested. Robert Hastings's research has
clearly demonstrated that there's a 'public face' concerning the UAP's - Blue Book,etc. - and a highly
classified, compartmentalized face (S.A.P.s) that even command grade officers are excluded from.

One of the benefits of silence, misdirection and denial... is that it keeps outside but interested parties
spinning in whirlpools of speculation and suspicion.

Is there a scintilla of evidence in the past decade's worth of relevant scientific journals that a technology
capable of producing the effects demonstrated by this object is in any stage of research or development?

I might be wrong, but I recall that many of the more significant scientific breakthroughs during the past
century did not happen in a single lab, but were being worked on simultaneously by researchers in different
placessometimes on different continents. The acclaim, the prize, merely went to those who published first.

In this light, I find it difficult (not impossible, but difficult) to give much credence to the notion that our
'gummint, or any 'gummint, has such a technology extant. I think we would've seen hints (leaks) by now.
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Robert

Friday, August 21, 2015 at 8:19

Powell

am

Bill P, I agree with your last paragraph. Scientific breakthroughs such as the atomic bomb, development of jet
aircraft, rockets, etc., occur at multiple locations throughout the world at about the same time. It's not like
we were handed those technologies. They all slowly evolve. Like you, I won't say it's impossible to have
somehow technology been sneakily given to us but I find that close to zero for a possibility.
Now I don't think there is a compartmentalized group in the government that keeps an eye on the UFO
phenomenon and has an active database on the phenomenon. I will say that it would be much easier to
convince me that I'm wrong on this count than the view of "gifted technologies." I guess I'm a little more
pessimistic in my view of the government and UFOs. I have studied the history since WW-II and I have seen no
clear hand-me-down of information. I think as Billy often says, it is a "Big Taboo" that no one wants to even
think about let alone discuss. I've talked to many military individuals who have seen UFOs in the service and
they rarely report them because of the negative societal view of the topic rather than because someone told
them to hush up. And the times that people have been told to hush up, I think is because their superior didn't
want the topic/issue affecting his standing. As a society, the concept of something more intelligent than us
being able to get here puts a damper on one's view of our importance and our being the center of everything.
As Sergeant Schultz used to say on the TV series Hogan's Heroes, "I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know
nothing."

Rich
Hoffman

Friday, August 21, 2015 at 4:31


pm

There are a lot of players who are culpable here, not just Customs Border Protection (CBP). According to the
witness, the evidence was passed to Air Force Intelligence who offered no explanation to CBP and instead
provided referrals to other Agencies. Radar data was requested from the 84th RADES Group. One other
unverified source posted that the Video was sent to Quantico, Virginia. When we tried a FOIA to get the
tower logs through the FAA who directed us to a private company in Tennessee (Robinson Aviation). They
would not respond to our requests for information. We sought more clarity from L-3 about their camera and
got silence to the questions we posed to them. In talking with many others, this video has been passed
around and looked at by others with much interest, but silence overall. We were informed today that we may
be getting a statement from the CBP Public Affairs Officer who seemed to know nothing about the incident. I
have to laugh at Conspiracy comments that suggest it was faked and someone wants to see how quickly it is
dissiminated. I guess we love to fantasize that the government matches those TV shows and movies in
efficiency and effectiveness.
freeman69
Friday, August 21, 2015 at 4:48
pm

We automatically assume that FOIA is the way to go, and it's automatically game over when private companies
are involved. I'm thinking of those tower logs.

Even though a company isn't obligated to respond, perhaps an alternative approach might find them more
responsive? In exceptional circumstances, if privacy and security aren't compromised, maybe a company
would respond to a request from a political representative, or a reporter?
Mark
Friday, August 21, 2015 at 5:35
pm

See, I know that most people disagree with the use of ex post facto laws, but I think that there may be a few,
albeit rare, times when ex post facto laws should be applied, and I think that this example of government
officials, and private corporations, making a mockery of The FOIA is one of those situations. This is just
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wrong, and should be punished.

Billy

Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:38

Cox

pm

I've queried both CBP and DHS for comment on the footage and, of course, have heard back from neither. Will
try to FOIA route although I suspect it will come to nothing.
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[] By Billy Cox, 19 August 2015 (De Void, Sarasota Herald-Tribune, Florida) Billy Cox continues to report on
the 25 April 2013 Aguadilla (Puerto Rico) UFO/USO incident:
http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15356/indifference-or-dereliction/ []
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Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 1:06


am

[] So did Customs screw up? Or DHS? Or could it be that administrators at either agency really dont care
that on the evening of April 25, 2013, a state-of-the-art airborne camera did its job and gathered evidence of
a flying machine demonstrating unprecedented performance capabilities? Continue Reading . . . []
albert
Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 3:07
pm

@freeman69,

IANAL, but I believe Puerto Ricos airport is under FAA jurisdiction (they had to get FAA permission to
'privatize' it. They could only 'concessionize' it, sales of commercial airports are not allowed) ). I'll bet the
FAA could get anything they wanted from the control tower. ATC is contracted worldwide, and accident
investigators have no problem getting data. That delayed Fed Ex flight had to be logged somewhere. FOIA the
FAA for the info. Forget DHS and USCBP.

. .. . .. o

Bill
Pilgrim

Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 9:36


pm

@Robert,

Hi Robert. There's just too much testimonial evidence out there (way too numerous to list here) pointing to
the existence of an above-top-secret, need-to-know echelon of UAP/ET research & materialfor me to
dismiss the notion. From Edgar Mitchell to Charles Halt to Gordon Cooper to FAA flight controllers whose
radar tapes were confiscatedthe credible accounts are everywhere.

I think one reason the accounts of being ordered to 'hush-up' or 'forget it' are historical is because they came
from people who are now retired, want to get their experiences on record, and no longer fear the
consequences.

When they retire, let's see what we hear (for example) from the F-16 pilots who shadowed the huge
triangular and pentagonal crafts all around Stephensvilleand so on.

As for the military folks who told you they don't talk about UAP's only because of the public stigma it would
incur, ask them (if they are Air Force) why they are still required to sign a non-diclosure form, or make a
non-disclosure oath, regarding the subject.
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Harry
Ray

Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:57


am

I do NOT believe the UFO EVER ENTERED THE WATER OR SPLIT IN TWO! Heres why. THERE WEWE ALWAYS
TWO UFO's. It's just that ONE OF THEM REMAINED CLOAKED until at the very end of the video! The UFO that
was VISIBLE theoughout the video VERY BRIEFLY CLOAKED ITSELF to make us THINK it entered the water! The
BASIS of this belief is a principle called Occam' Razor. This states that "the devil you know" is MORE LIKELY
than "the devil you don't know. We KNOW that you can cloak objects to render them invisable. We SALREADY
HAVE VERY RUDIMENTERY TECHNOLOGY TO DO THIS!

Billy
Cox

Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:08


am

Quit screaming.
Experts chime in on Puerto Rico UFO video | Very Top Secret Information

Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 1:23


am

[] an opinion on the report is Dr. Richard Haines, a former research scientist for NASA. He told Billy Cox of
the Sarasota Herald Tribune, For a number of reasons, I dont believe it is a hoax. It does deserve a lot more
serious []

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