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4/7/2015

LANDINGINCANADA???AllYouNeedToKnow.

AllYouNeedtoKnowAboutLanding...
Hifriends,
Asthesequerieskeepcomingrepeatedlyinthis
forum(&IgetmanyPMsaswell),Ithoughtto
summarizeallintoonethread.Thispostshallquench
mostofourdoubts.Ihopeithelps...
REFERENCETHREADS:
CanweLandinAnyCity:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canadaimmigration
discussionboard/t35499.0.html
WhichCitytoLandforJobs:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canadaimmigration
discussionboard/t31291.0.html
LandingForms:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canadaimmigration
discussionboard/t30178.0.html
Job'sInPerspective:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canadaimmigration
discussionboard/t31106.0.html

WHEN SHOULD WE 'LAND':

AftergettingthePRvisa,wearesupposedto
completeour'recordoflanding',onorbeforetheVisa
ExpiryDate[mentionedonthevisa].ThevisaExpiry
DateisrelatedtoEITHER*:
a)1yr.fromthemeds,or
b)PassportexpirydateofthePAoranyoneofhis/her
accompanyingDependents
*Whicheveroftheabove2isearlier.

WHO SHOULD LAND FIRST:

ItistheobligationofthePAto'land'first.Whichcan
be'alongwith'oneormoreoralltheaccompanying
familymembers.LetitbeclearthatthePA's
dependentsCANNOTlandfirst.

PROCEDURE AT THE POE:

Irrespectiveofwhichcitywechosetoland,the
'landing'perse,isasimpleprocess.Beforedebarking
thea/craftwe'llbeprovidedwitha'Disembarkation
Card/Form'.Wetakethatform&firstgotothe
'PassportControl'.
AtthePassportControl:
HereweneedtoinformtheIOthatwehavecometo
doour'landing'.TheIOwillcheckourDisembarkation
Cardandourpassport/s&visa.S/hewillthendirect
usto"NewlyLandedImmigrants'Counter".
AttheImmigrationCounter:
TheIOherewillscrutinizeourPassport/s&COPRs.
Hewould[sometimesmaynot]asktoseeourPOF.
Mostofthetimestheofficerwillnotcountthe'actual'
money&acceptwhatwesay.But,nofalse
pretensionsthere.S/hewillthenfillsomeportionsof
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theCOPR&askustosignit,whereinit'llbeattached
onourpassport.We'llbeaskedtofillinthe'PRCard
ApplicationForm'&giveanaddresswhereourPR
cardswillbeforwardedwithin36weeks.Thereby,
s/hewould'WelcomeustoCanada'anddirectusto
anotheroffice.
AttheServicesCanadaOffice:
TheServicesCanadasectionisforassistingthe
Newcomers'settlementmoves.Herewe'llgetlotsof
books/pamphlets,that'llprovideallthecrucialinfoon
CanadaandourSettlementplanhere.Fromherewill
bedirectedtotheCBSAcounter.

AttheCBSA[Customs]Office:
Thisisanimportantlocation.Wearerequiredto
present(1)ListofItemsAccompanying(2)Listof
GoodstoFollow(3)CurrencyDeclaration[We'dhave
to'declare'anyamountof$10Kormore].Lists1&2
mustbebroughtin2copies,onewouldberetainedby
CBSAandthe2ndcopywillbereturnedbacktous.
We'llneedthe2ndcopywhenourshipmentscomein.
Note:[1]Ifwearenotbringinginanygoodslater,
wedon'tneedthe'goodstofollowlist'.[2]Ata
randomtheCBSAmight'actually'checkthePOFhere.
Thus,nocomplacencyisacceptable.[3]Ifthereare
'jewelry'involved,donotforgettobring'Printed
Photographs'ofthesame(detailslater).

BTW:Alltheofficersareextremelyfriendly,very
understanding,cheerfulandhelpful.We'llencounter
'WelcometoCanada'manyatimes.Ifallthedocsare
preprinted&availablewithusandthereisnotmuch
ofaqueue,wewillbeoutofthea/portin40mins
1hr.flat.Whichincludesthewalkdistance,baggage
collectionetc.

FORMS REQUIRED FOR THE 'LANDING':

EvenifyoustayONLYforadayatCanada,youwill
needthefollowing:
1.PassportwithstampedVisa.offcourse
2.COPR(IMM5292B)
3.POF.[forcases"without"AEO&familyclass]
(detailsbelow)
4.Passportsizephotos.2or3forPRC(maynotbe
needed,butgoodtohave)
5.PRCardApplication(IMM5444E).carryitfilled
preprinted,forease
6.GoodstoFollowList(FormB4/B4A).carryit
filledpreprinted,forease
7.GoodsAccompanyingList.asabove,atableof
thingsurcarryingonperson(value&Totaled)
Formsrequiredlater
8.SINCardAppsForm(NAS2120).NotNeededat
theA/port[lateratServicesCanada]
9.KidsImmunizationRecord.NotNeededatthe
A/port[laterforSchoolAdmission]
10.IfyouareDrivingyourCar.readbelow
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NOTE:Themoreyouareorganizedbeforehand,the
better1stimpressionyoudeliverandtheIO/CBSA
officershallbehappier.(BTW:smooth&fast
processing).U'llbeoutfaster.Gotoyouraccom&
relaxfortheday,youhadalongjourney,haven't
you?

SHORT STAY ACCOMMODATION:

Forsureyoumustarrangea'shortstay'
accommodationpriortoyourlanding.Thenecessityof
whichcannotbeoveremphasizedmore.Ifyouhave
friends/relatives,theycanbeapproachedforthe
same,ifyoudonothaveanyone,thefollowingis
recommended:
Toronto:
1)http://www.safehomestay.com/
2)http://www.staystudio6.com/
*Bothprovidea/portpickupservices.Theplacesare
usedbymanysatisfactorily.
Calgary:
Notmuchsuchplacesareavailable.However,thisad
byaserviceprovidercaughtmyeye...
"Furnishedroomswithhighspeedinternetare
availablefornewcomers&immigrants.Closetoall
aminities.Pickup&dropoffservicesalsoavailable.
CallGirish#4032558582[oremail:taradale@
live.ca]formoreinfo".
Source:http://www.canadavisa.com/canada
immigrationdiscussionboard/sharedaccomodation
incalgarynet31430.0.html
Vancouver:
a)http://www.budgetpathotel.bc.ca/
b)http://www.ywcahotel.com/
SomeotherimportantsitesonVancouverare:
1)http://www.welcomebc.ca
2)http://www.rentbc.com
NOTE:Exceptforpplwithenough$$$tospend,avoid
Hotels&Motels.Theyarefarcostlier.Also,ifyou
musttakeahotel,avoidtheonesclosetotheA/port
forobviousreasons.

HOUSE RENTAL:

Thebestwaytodohousehunting[longtermaccom.]
istolandatCanada&thenstartsearching.Wordof
mouth&BulletinBoardsareagreatrealtime'
source.However,wecannotcondonetheimportance
oftheweb.Someofthegoodsites[therearemany]
couldbe:
a)http://www.hometrader.ca(Goodsite)
b)http://www.capreit.com(PropertyManagement
Services)
c)http://www.kjiji.ca/(GoodClassifiedssite)
d)http://www.mls.ca(Motherofall)

MONEY: PROOF OF LANDING FUNDS:


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WhatProofsAreAcceptable?
IfyouarecarryingmorethanC$10,000,tella
CanadianofficialwhenyouarriveinCanada.Ifyoudo
nottellanofficial,youmaybefinedorputinprison.
Thesefundscouldbeintheformof:
Cash
Securitiesinbearerform(foreg,stocks,bonds,
debentures,treasurybills)or
Negotiableinstrumentsinbearerform(foreg,
B/drafts,Cheques,TCsorMOs).
Source:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp
HowMuchFundsCanICarry?
ThereisnoMaxlimit...wecantakeMillions,ifwe
canproveitslegitimatesource&declareanything
at/ormorethan$10,000[that'stheCBSAregulation].
ThereisaMinimumlimitthough...wemustcarryat
leastormorethanwhatCICrequirementstates,vis
avisfortheno.ofpaxinthefamily[accompanying].
Tax&DutiesComponent:
ThefundswebringinsideCanadaareNonTaxable.It
isonlythe'interest'earnedonthatwhichistaxed.
Themomentourfundsstartaccruinginterest[while
lyinginaCanadianBanka/c]thebankwillstart
deductingtax'onsource'.Thesameappliesforany
'INVESTMENT' inCanadathatwemakewiththese
funds.

BANKING:

ThoughmostinternationalbanksoperateinCanada,
the3mainCanadianBanksarepresumablythebest,
intermsoftheirpresence,availability&locationof
ATMmachines,branchesetc.:
1)Scotiabank,
2)TDBank,&
3)CIBC
Besides,youcanalsopreopenaCanadianBanka/c
fromyourhomecountry[notall,Dubai,Indiaetc.]
thruScotiabank,SBI&*ICICIBank.Ihaveposted
detailsaboutitearlierhere:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canadaimmigration
discussionboard/t34013.0.html
*ICICIBankoffersoneofthecheapesta/ccharges.
Butunfortunately,bothICICI&SBIhaveverylimited
presenceinCanada.

AIRLINE RECOMMENDATIONS:

UsuallyBA&KLMchangeplacesfrequentlyfortheir
"lowestfares"toCanada.Moreoftenit'dbeBA
[especiallyfromtheUK,Dubai,Europe&theGulf
sector].Ucanalsoaskyourtravelagenttoselect
betweenmultiplecarrierstoprovidemultiplehalt
choices.But,fromtheUKactuallythatmightnotbe
required.CheckBAtoday,it'lldothetrick...Dubai
HeathrowToronto:AED3,860/ppreturn.
However,personalchoiseprevails.Sometimesother
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carriersplaceenviouspromotionstoo.Emirateshas
recentlycommencedtheA380[Dreamliner]service.
Andalltheirflightsare'longhaul'NonStop.
NOTE:Ifour$$$areaconsideration,avoid'nonstop'
flights.Theyobviouslyarecostlier.Asinglestop
flightishighlyrecommended.Also,wemightavoid
travelagentsaswell,the'online'reservationofall
theprominentcarriersareabsolutelygood.Ididmine
thruBA&itwasfantastic.Paid,printedandbecame
an'ExecutiveClub'memberallthruthenet.Thee
ticketshallbedelivered,onthespot,inyouremail
inbox.

PR CARDS (PRC):

YourPRCardapplication(IMM5444E)shallbedoneat
thePOEitself.ItispartofthePRpackage[free]and
thephotos&detailswillbethesameasyousupplied
forthePPR.OurPRCard/scomebacktousvia
regularpostmail,in36weeks,avg.4weeks.Itis
'advisable'tostayinCanadaforatleast45days,
collectourPRCandthenreturnback[ifyoumust].
Ifyouleavethecountrybeforeitarrives,u'llhaveto
makearrangementsforitscollection&forward
deliverytoyou,overseas,thruafriend/relative[Not
aRecommendedAction],however,doneallthetime
byppl.Butthereisadangeroflosingitintransit.
Andifthathappens,we'llhaveatediousprocessto
getnewonesmade.

How To Enter Canada W/Out A PR Card:

AsperIATA&CBSAregulations,wecannotenter
Canadaw/outaPRC.However,ifweareenteringthru
aBorderPostbyroad,itdoesn'tmatterourCOPRis
enoughforentry/exit.But,ifwearetravellingbyan
airline&boarding/enteringthruana/portwewillNot
bePermitted.Attheembarkationportitselfwewill
beStoppedbytheairlinestaff.
Theprocessinsuchcasesistoapplyfora'PRTDA31
(3)'[Temporary'PRTravelDocument']atthelocal
CHC[abroad].ItcostsCa$50.Detailsofitisprovided
atthe'ManualforPermanentResidentCard'(ENF27).
ProcedureOfPRCardApplication:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/5445E.PDF
NOTE:ThePRCisprobablythe'mostimportant'
documentafterwearethruwithourPRapplication
process.Thisisvalidfor5yrs.Firsttime:Free
Renewalscost$50/card.

SIN CARDS:

After'landing'we'llhavetovisitthenearestServices
CanadaOfficefortheSINCard.WegettheSINNo.
immediatelyasa'printout'signed&stampedupon
applying,thesameday,thesametime.That'dsuffice
forallourfurtheractionsinCanada,vizJobSearch,
Banka/c,HouseHuntingetc.Thecardshallcometo
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usinapprox3weeks.Foritscollectiondittoapplies
asabove,forthePRCards.
NOTE:Remember,wedon'tneedtheSINCardfor
anything.OnlytheSINNo.Whichwe'llgetthesame
timeasweapplyforit.It'dbewisetovisitServices
CanadaOfficetheverynextdayuponarrival.
IMPORTANTNOTE:
BothPRCard&SINCardsareFederaldocuments.
Meaning?OnecardfortheentirenationCanada.

HEALTH CARDS:

Healthisaprovincialmatter.ItisNOTFEDERAL.
Thus,ifyouchangeprovinces,u'llhavetoAGAINget
thatprovince'sHealthCard.Andagainthewaiting
period*shallapply.Offcourse,apreviousprovince's
healthcardremainsvalidforfewdays/monthsin
anotherprovince,butnotallbenefitscouldbe
availed.
*TheWaitingPeriod:
AsIknow,Alberta[eg.Calgary,Edmontonetc]&
Manitoba[eg.Winnipeg]aretheOnlyprovinceswhere
thereisNOWAITINGperiodfortheHealthInsurance.
Restinallprovincesthereissomewaitingtimetoget
theHealthBenifits.InOntario[eg.Toronto,Ottawa
etc.]itis3months.
Eg.:IfCalgaryIsMyDestinationShouldIGetThe
H/CardInToronto?
IfCalgaryisyourFinalDestination,butyouare
'initially'landinginTorontoforafewdaysstay
[Permittedaction],Isuggestyoushouldfirstlandin
Calgary[getthehealthcard]andthenvisitToronto.
Why?Mainly'coz,youcangettheCalgaryhealthcard
immediately,butinTorontoyou'llnot.ThatCalgary
healthcardwillbevalidinTorontoforafewdays.
Nottheviceversa.Secondly,ifyoulandfirstin
Toronto,you'llbestayingw/outanyhealthcoverage.
Temp.HealthCoverage:
It'swisetoobtaina'temporary'healthcoverage
beforeyoufly.Offcoursenotrequiredifyouare
goingtoAlbertaorManitoba.Thattemp.coverage
shallcomeinthewayof"TravelInsurance",which
youcanobtainfromANYinsurancecompanyinyour
homeland.Thecostsdepandsonthelengthof
coverage.Usuallyweshouldtakeitfor34months,
asthatisthewaitingtimeinallprovinces.
NOTE:It'llbeagoodideatoobtaintheTravel
InsuranceFROMHOME country.For2reasons:[1]
Youarecoveredfromday1evenbeforelanding.[2]
InCanadaitwillbecostlier&you'llbecoveredonly
fromthedayyouapply.Whatifyougettodoitlater,
asyou'llbebusyintheinitialdays?Whatifsomething
goeswronginbetween?

DRIVING LICENSE:
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ThereisawaytoobtainatleasttheOntarioG2
DrivingLincenseimmediately,ifnottheG1.Forthat
someprearrangedactionsareneeded,beforeyou
fly.I'vewrittenindetailonit.Checkoutthislink:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canadaimmigration
discussionboard/issuewithontariodriverslicence
striket30236.0.html

HOW TO BRING CARS INTO CANADA:

Firstly,itisNotwisetobringinCarsfromanyother
countryintoCanada.Why?Carsarequite
compititivelypricedinCanada.It'sonlyits
maintenance&thecostofGasthat'llkillyou.
Secondly,Canadianmodelsaremadespecificallyto
withstandthe'extreme'coldconditionsthere.Our
importedcarsmightnot[lesstheonesfromEuropian
orsimilarcountries].
Thirdly,therearelawsforTire,Radiatoretc.
modifications,beforewecanregisteritinCanada.
Whywouldweliketotakethattrouble?Fourthly,the
transportationcosts?Itmightjustnotbeworthto
bringincarsfromfarflungcountries.
ImportCarsFromTheUs:
Yes,befreetobringyourcar/sfromtheUSbyall
means.But'remember',weneedtofirst'export'the
carfromtheUSandagain'import'itintoCanada,
afterwegetin.Documentations...documentations...
However,quiteagooddetailaboutitisprovidedin
thiswebsite:
http://www.autobroker
magic.com/Canada_Import.html

ITEMS TO CARRY FROM HOMELAND:

Verydebatable...Iwouldsay,doyourmathsfirst.Is
theextrabaggagecostsworththeeffort?Mostitems
arereadilyavailableinCanada,alsoatvery
reasonableprice.
DittoforIndianFood&Spices[Rice,Dal,Pickles,
Papad(?)etc.]AnddittoforItalian[Pasta,Lasagna
etc.],Japanese[Sushi,Tapanyaki,Teriyakietc.],Tex
Mex,younameit.
Besides,manyitemsarealsonotpermittedentry.
Andthereisotherwiseaquality/quantityrestrictionas
well.ChecktheCBSAwebsiteforthose.Moreover,
hiringacontainerfullofgoods?I'dsayNo...No.It
maynotbeworthwhileatall.
WhatToTake?[PurelyMyAdvise]:
1.Personaleffects[forimdtuse,largequantities...
No]
2.Generalclothing[somewarmonesalso]
3.Laptop[nodesktop,printeretc.]
4.Digicam/Camcorder
5.Heirlooms[heritagecollections,murals,artifacts
etc.]CheckCBSArules.
6.OriginalCertificates/Documents
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7.PrescriptionMedicines
8.Books&DVDs
9.MobilePhone*[nonCDMA]aNAchargerwillbe
needed
*OnlyGSM8501900MHzmodels[that'stheCanadian
frequencynotallcountrieshavethat]
What"Not"ToTake?[PurelyMyAdvise]:
1.Furniture[whatever,smallorbig]
2.TV[evenifit'sanLCD],Fridge,Washingmachine
etc.
3.Curtains,Bedspreads,Pillows&linens
4.Cars,Bikesetc.
5.LargesizedToysofkids
6.Food[PerishableorNonperishable]items
7.OvertheCounterMedicines
8.MeatorMeatproducts[includingFowl,Fishetc.]
NOTE:Asianmakeelectronic/electricalitemswon't
workinCanada.[read230vs110Volts]

GOODS LISTS [FORM B4 / B4A]:

Allgoodsthatwecarry,either'onperson'or
'following'needstobe'listed'informB4/B4A,
separately.TheseformsareavailableintheCBSA
website,linkgivenbelow:
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/publications/forms
formulaires/b4eng.pdf
Itisthesameformfor'GoodsAccompanying'&
'Goodstofollow'.Weshouldclubsimilaritemsin
groups[eg.DVDs:Qty98,Books:Qty42etc.].
Theentirelistshouldbepricedagainsteachgroup&
totalledintheend.Weshouldcarry'original'invoices
forhighenditems[DiamondsMUST].Otherscanbe
broadly/generallypriced,butappropriate.
JewelryitemsMUSTbelisted[eachitemwise]and
shouldcarrytheir"photographs".Weshouldprintout
thepicsundersimilargroups[eg.Ringsallinoneor
morepages,Necklacesinanotherpageetc.]
We'llneed2copiesofeachform,asonewouldbe
keptbytheCBSA&onewouldbereturnedtous,for
'customs'clearance.This2ndcopywillbesigned&
stampedbytheCBSAatthePOE.
NOTE:Allgoodsbroughtfor'landing'arenontaxed.If
weweretobringingoods'later',eitherbypersonal
carriageorthruatransporter,thislistMUSTbe
stampedonthe1stLanding.Else,theywillbe
'dutiable'.Nocompromiseonthatispossible.That's
thelaw.

ABOUT KID's SCHOOLING:

Canadahas2typesofschoolsthe'PublicSchools'&
the'CatholicSchools'.Therearesome'ethnic'schools
aswell,butnotforregulareducation.Mostofour
kids[say70%]gotothePublicSchoolsthis
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educationisFREE.TheCatholicSchoolsareFeePaid
[payablebyus].
Usually,ourkidswillbeacceptedimdtlyinto
the*neighborhoodschool,whetherwearrivemidterm
orduringanewsession.Therecanbean'entrytest',
butthat'snotforrejectionbutforassessmentofthe
extracarethattheschoolneedtoprovidetoakid.
Evenifourkidsarenotverygoodineitherofthe2
CanadianofficiallanguagesEnglish&/orFrench,by
lawaschoolisrequiredtoprovideadmissiontoour
kids.
*EachneighborhoodwillhavetheirownPublic
School/sandourkidsarerequiredtoONLYbe
admittedthere.Wehavenochoiceonthat.Theonly
wayout[ifwethinkthataparticularschoolisbetter]
istomoveourresidencetothatarea[neighborhood].
Wehavetoprovideour'residencycontract'forthis
purpose.

SchoolWebsites:
Eachprovince[&somecities]hasitsown'school
DistrictBoard'.Allinformationcanbeviewedinthose
websites.
1)Anexampleisthe'TorontoDist.SchoolBoard',
checkthislink:
http://www.tdsb.on.ca/
2)Fora'ranking'overviewofCanadianschools,you
mayliketocheckthefollowinglink:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/reportcards/schoolperformance/
NOTE:Donotbehookedbythethoughtthatthe
CatholicSchoolsarebetterthanthePublicSchools.
BothareequallycompititiveinEducare.Infactsome
ofthePublicSchoolsare'excellent'&remember,70%
Canadiankidsstudyinthem.

***
IhopeI'veaddressedmostissues,ifnotall...toease
theprocessofourlanding.IfImissedoutanythingor
ifsomethingiswronglyput,plznotify.Alsoother
memberswhohavemoreinfotoaddmaykindlypost
theirsunderthisthread,forthebenefitofeveryone.
Allthebest,buddies!
QORAX

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