Transcript of an informal chat on electional astrology

and planetary hours

October 26, 1998
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Ed> Hi, Pauline
pauline> hello ed, are you here for the lecture, i am
Ed> Yes, that's why I'm here. Just a little early (to make sure everything
works right)
pauline> Are you a Virgo?
Ed> No. I'm a Leo. :-)
pauline> Have you been studying astrology long?
Ed> I've done astrology for more than 25 years.
pauline> Wow! I'm very impressed. That's great!
Ed> I think the more you get into it, the more fascinating it gets.
Ed> How long have you been studying?
pauline> I have been interested in it for many years,having others read my
chart. I started studying it for myself less than one month ago.
Ed> Oh! How do you like it so far?
pauline> I love it and hope to make it a regular part of my life! I am learning
it very quickly. However I realise it takes time to understand the patterns.
Ed> Yes. I think the real trick when you're first starting out is not to let
all the little details overwhelm you.
pauline> That's very good advice and I've made a great effort to get straight to
the fun stuff...Transits.
Ed> he-he. Yeah, the fun stuff.
pauline> Well, it does (might) help to know when they are coming. I haven't
gotten that far yet. I'm just trying to figure out which ones are happening for
me now.
Ed> There is just so much to explore. Like planetary hours, which Kaye will be
talking about tonight ..
Ed> I've been doing this all those years, but I've really never worked with
them.
Ed> Always something new to learn.
pauline> So you work primarily with the natal chart?
Ed> Yes .. Natal, transits, and some electional
Ed> Planetary hours is really part of electional, but a somewhat different
approach.
pauline> Are there any books you recommend? - What is electional?
Ed> Electional astrology is choosing ("electing") a good time to begin a new
venture.
Ed> You use the chart for the moment and location where you begin the venture.
Ed> If you set up a good chart ahead of time, then the venture will go well.
pauline> OK, I'm interested in this.
Ed> Books ... hmmm...
Ed> One book I've always recommended is a little paperback called "Write Your
Own Horoscope," by Joseph Goodavage.
pauline> or any other recommendations?

Ed> It's very easy to understand, yet eases you into many of the details.
pauline> OK..thank you very much!
Ed> It's old (from the 60s or 70s), but I think it's still in print.
Ed> The "Only Way..." books are also very good.
Ed> By Marion March and Joan McEvers
pauline> Thanks, I wrote it all down. It's just about time for the lecture. I
wonder how she will begin.
Ed> Yeah. I'm wondering where everyone else is.
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Ed> Aha! Someone else! Hi, Terri
Terri> hiya :)
Terri> evening. :)
pauline> Hello Terri!
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Terri> hiya Pauline
Terri> hiya Ena
Ed> Hi, Ena
Ena> Hello Terri!
pauline> Hello Ena
Ena> Hi Ed!
Terri> Mary said she's coming. But I haven't heard from her today
Ena> And you to Pauline...Welcome!
pauline> Thank you , how long have you been studying astrology?
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Ena> I just spoke with Kaye and she's having trouble getting on through aol! :(
Ena> It keeps knocking her off...Hello sherilyn!
Terri> hi Sherilyn
Ed> Hi, Sherilyn
sherilyn> Hello everyone.
Ed> <muttering under his breath about AOL>
Ena> Wre you asking me how long I've been studying astrology, Pauline?
pauline> yes
pauline> \
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Ed> Hi, Lisa
lisag> Hi Ed
pauline> Hello Lisa
Ena> Yes, I know Ed...I've been studying astrology for over 30 years, Pauline...
Terri> hiya Lisa
Terri> here comes Mary
Ena> been practicing for 18 years and teaching for 12.
lisag> Hi Pauline Terri Ena
Ena> Hi Lisa!
pauline> Wow! That's great! Do YOU have any books you recommend?
Ena> We're waiting for Kaye...she's having problems getting in through aol...I
would suggest taking classes, here at OCA, Pauline.
pauline> How many people can fit into the lecture hall?
Ed> Pauline - 50 people
Ed> (I can make it bigger, but at the moment it's 50)
Ena> There are several students here, you can ask their opinion...And a couple
of Instructors...
Ena> Lisa is an Instructor and when Mary gets here, she is one, too.
Terri> Mary's on icq..so she must be on her way
Ena> Good! :-)
Terri> Ena..is there anyway I can fix this silly chatwindow so it fills my whole
screen?

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Terri> hiya Mary!
Ed> Pauline - If you want to take an introductory class here, you might look
into the Basic class taught by Jackie Goldstein
Ena> Oh yes, by all means, Terri.
Ed> Hi, Mary
sherilyn> Hi, Mary
Terri> it's all the way over to the right...makes me nuts. <g>
MaryO> Hi!
lisag> Hi Mary
pauline> Thanks Ed, I'll take a look at that.
MaryO> Good crowd tonight :)
MaryO> and I think Paige is coming, too
Ena> Terri (and whomever else is having problems) look for the Ewgie button down
at the bottom bar...
Terri> aha..fixed it.
Ena> When you get it, Terri, tell me so...
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Ena> and I'll give you the next instruction.
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Ed> Hi, Susan
Ena> Hi Susan!
Terri> I just moved the screen over and pushed the boxes
Terri> oops
Ena> Well, you can also right click onto the Ewgie burron and hit Maximize and
it will do it.
Terri> oh..I'll know that next time
MaryO> Ena, I didn't know that ... what an improvement! I'm been
improvising....
Ena> Oh God! Mary you didn't know that...you've never been to an orientation?
Ed> That off-center screen is the one thing that bugs me most about this chat
program.
Ed> Otherwise, it's a really good program.
Ena> Yes, it is, Ed...I really like it!
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Terri> is this a telnet program?
Terri> hiya Swelch
Ena> and considering how far we've come, it's a small problem! :)
Ed> No, Terri. It's a Java applet.
MaryO> I did orientation with my old computer, Ena, and had to use browser mode
instead of windows
Ena> Hello Susan!
Terri> well..it's the best java applet I've ever seen
swelch> Hi, y/all.
Terri> oh..duh..it says applet below...duh
Ed> Took me a long time to track it down. <grin>
swelch> I went to class and no one was there but they don't seem to be here
either.
Terri> good job. :) I deal with java applets on Delphi..hate them.
Ed> I looked at a LOT of them ... and this one really is the best I've found.
Ed> What do you do on Delphi, Terri?
MaryO> oh, I forgot, ed and terri know each other from genie, too :)
Terri> I have my own forum and i'm staff in the new age forum
Terri> mine is a reiki forum
Ed> Oh .. we do? Terri who?
Terri> we did?
Terri> Terri/Yerri

MaryO> Terri, Ed started the whole astrology, new age forum there...thought he
Terri> I don't think we met on Genie, Mary. But it's nice to see old Genieites
MaryO> was still genially lurking in the background when you joined the new age
staff
Ed> This place is swarming with old Genieites. :-)
MaryO> Ed was our guru and resident genius :)
Ena> Sherilyn and Mary, can you tell everyone some about Kaye's material while
we're waiting for her to get in?
Terri> <g> Mary thinks highly of you, Ed.
Ed> <blush>
Terri> <grin>
pauline> Yes, can we hear about Kaye's material?
sherilyn> There's an awful lot to learn. Makes you realize what all you don't
know about astrology.
MaryO> Kaye teaches financial astrology...starting with the kind of practical
MaryO> applications we can all use every day...like Moon void of course,
MaryO> retrogrades in their financial applications
MaryO> moving on quickly to some pretty interesting ways of looking at stocks
and funds
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Terri> oops
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Ed> Ack!
Terri> ack is right.
Ed> Ena has an appointment she needs to be at ...
Terri> Ed..what's your last name? Do you know Marla??
swelch> I'm leaving to check my classroom again. I may be back.
Ed> I'm not sure what happened to Mary, though.
sherilyn> Ed, where is everybody going?
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Terri> she's still on icq
sherilyn> ok
Ed> Terri ... it's Perrone. Yes, I know Marla.
Terri> I think Mary got bumped
Ed> Tell her "hi" when you see her.
Terri> Marla's in charge of New Age on Delphi..the whole gang is there.
Terri> you know GF and Tigerlily?
Ed> I remember Tigerlily. Don't know GF (at least by that name)
Ed> Anyways ....
Terri> they are living together now..getting married in June..GF=Goldfish
Ed> Ah ... yes, I remember.
Ed> Back to our topic at hand for a moment ...
Terri> ::stops gossiping::
Ed> We didn't get these up until late this afternoon, but there are some files
Kaye provided regarding the planetary hours...
pauline> Anybody have any astrological explanations for why this is (isn't )
happening?
Ed> They are in the library where you can view/download them.
Ed> Either now, or after the lecture.
Ed> Pauline - not offhand, no.
Terri> (the gods hate us? ::giggle::)
Ed> The files explain briefly the meanings of the planetary hours, and also how
to calculate them.
pauline> OK, I'll have to go to the library too. Thanks.
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Terri> re's Mary
Ed> Re's, Mary

MaryO> Hi...realized I'd forgotten to print Kaye's lecture notes from the
library
Ed> Pauline and I were talking a little bit about electional astrology earlier
...
MaryO> Anyone heard from Kaye?
Ed> No, Mary, still no news. :-(
Terri> bummer
Ed> And planetary hours are related to electional ...
sherilyn> Do we need the lecture notes to understand what is going on tonight
,Ed?
pauline> Related in what way Ed?
Ed> Sherilyn ... No, you really don't need them ahead of time.
Terri> is ena going to post this lecture?
Ed> They're good for reference, though.
Ed> Terri - yes
Terri> oh, good. :)
Ed> Pauline - electional is deciding on a good moment to begin a venture ...
Ed> It uses a complete chart for that moment -- as if the venture were a newborn
baby.
Ed> Planetary hours are also used for deciding "good times" to do certain things
...
Ed> But instead of using a complete chart, you use the nature of the particular
hour.
Ed> For example: During a Mars hour, you should be aggressive. During a Moon
hour, receptive. Etc.
pauline> I understand so far.
Ed> So they're all (as Mary pointed out) practical applications of astrology -when to do certain things in the real world.
Ed> Mary .. you were talking when you got bumped. Want to continue?
pauline> Are the hours already divided, or do they come from the chart?
pauline> (how do you tell a Mars hour?)
MaryO> Pauline, hours start at sunrise every day, and they are calculated from
sunrise to sunset, then sunset to sunrise
pauline> Still with you.
Terri> am I still here? ::giggle::
Terri> oh, good
MaryO> Sunrise on Sunday starts with Sun's hour, then Venus, then Mercury, then
Moon, Saturn, Jpiter, Mars and back to Sun
MaryO> by sunset
MaryO> Kaye's library files tell you how to calculate the hours
MaryO> once you get the hang of it, it's easy...
MaryO> but it takes a little practice
Ed> Each day at sunrise begins with the hour of a certain planet...
Ed> Then you move through the planets in order from there.
MaryO> Right...Monday starts with the Moon
pauline> Ok, I get it .
MaryO> Tuesday with Mars...
Ed> The "hours" are actually equal divisions of the daylight hours and the
nighttime hours.
MaryO> they use a different order than we usually do...and it's a very effective
way to
MaryO> judge whether something new is in harmony with the cosmos
MaryO> I frequently ask clients about the exact time they met a new romantic
friend
MaryO> or a new business prospect...and it's amazing how much the timing
MaryO> form the hours will tell you about how the relationship will proceed

MaryO> Kaye's very good at practical applications for these basic astrological
processes
Terri> brb
pauline> So I could create a natal chart for the day I started my job to see how
it will go?
MaryO> for the day and time you started the job...you bet!
Ed> Pauline - yes. That's different from the planetar hours, though.
MaryO> or the time you closed on your house or signed a lease...
MaryO> but ed's right...that's an electional chart
Ed> They're related .. but different.
MaryO> the hours are useful in the same way that knowing about a void of course
moon is useful
pauline> Mmmmmmm. .. Good stuff!
MaryO> they tell you the present "mind set" of the universe...and you want to
MaryO> coordinate that with the things you do
MaryO> especially if you don't have TIME to do a full chart
Ed> If you do the complete chart for the time you started your job, it will show
you how the job overall will go ...
MaryO> for example, if I were going to call an editor about a writing
assignment,
Ed> day to day, month to month, etc...
MaryO> Mercury's hour will be good
Ed> But if you're at work, and you have some particular thing to do, the
planetary hour at that time will give you an idea of whether it's a good time to
do that thing.
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pauline> The chart is long term and the hours are usefull for action decision
making?
Ed> Right
Ed> Hours are ... well, hour-by-hour. :-)
pauline> Gotcha!
MaryO> and some things aren't WORTH the time and effort to do a full chart...
MaryO> let's say you want a quiet chat with an old friend...
pauline> Mary, I totally agree.
MaryO> you probably don't even remember when you first met
MaryO> but you can avoid the Mars hours of the day when everyone feels like
being up and active
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Ed> Hi, Stephanie
MaryO> or if you're going shopping, you might want the Venus hour...especially
Stephanie> Hi Ed!
MaryO> for clothing or jewelry or holiday gifts
lisag> Hi Stephanie
MaryO> Hi, Stephanie!
Stephanie> And hi Lisa!
Terri> hi Stephanie
sherilyn> Hi,Stephanie
Stephanie> Hi All :)
sherilyn> what about stocks,Mary?
pauline> I need two Venus hours for shopping (hee hee)
MaryO> :::smile:::
MaryO> I don't know as much as I wish I did about that , Sherilyn...
sherilyn> Ok
MaryO> Kaye says Jupiter's good for business and collecting money <g>
MaryO> but I might want to look it over during a Mercury hour
MaryO> and we each can take initiative in lots of ways with the hour for the
planet

MaryO> that rules our ascendant and natal sign

MaryO> In my case, that makes the Sun's hours doubly useful for anything
involving risk or initiative
MaryO> so I might use a Sun hour to take a flyer on a stock, play a hunch
MaryO> but for more serious research, probably Jupiter
Ed> I read that in Kaye's material, and I hadn't known that about using
planetary hours.
Ed> (about your personal Sun and asc rulers)
MaryO> i hadn't thought about it, ed...but when I did it made sense and i could
MaryO> verify it from some past decisions that worked out (when I had the
charts)
pauline> Could I move forward in time, cast a chart and see if it's a good time
to start ...(whatever it is I want to start
MaryO> Yes, of course you can, pauline...election astrology is about choosing
MaryO> the time to start things, and that's how it works
Ed> Sorry ... Kaye just called me
MaryO> and?
pauline> yes......?
Ed> She still can't log on, and she was wondering if it's okay with everyone to
do this again next week
Stephanie> Oh, no :(
Ed> Same time, same station. :-)
Ed> She sends her apologies. She's on the road, and can't get her modem working
right.
MaryO> sure...i teach 101 at this time...i'll work something out with my class
Terri> ok..I'll try to be here. :)
MaryO> Thanks, Ed
pauline> Same time etc? OK Nice meeting you all!
MaryO> See you all next week
Ed> Same time, yes.
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Terri> thanks Ed..see you all laters
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Ed> Thank you, everyone.
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Stephanie> OK, thanks Ed! :)
sherilyn> Okay with me, thanks Ed
swelch> Bye all.
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sherilyn> Bye
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Ed> Nite
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