ASEAN and Asia-Pacific

Engineer Registers

CIRILO C. CALIBJO, Ph.D., PEE, ACPE

2012 IIEE-WV Regional Governor
2013 IIEE ACPER Committee Chair
2014-15 IIEE AAPER Committee Chair
Member, PTC-PEV, Washington Accord
Dean, CCS, Central Philippine Univ.
 OUTLINE
I. THE PHILIPPINE INTERNATIONAL COMMITMENTS and
AGREEMENTS
A. General Agreement on Trade in Services
B. ASEAN Federation of Engineering Organization
C. ASEAN Economic Community

II. FOREIGN MOBILITY OF FILIPINO ENGINEERS

A. Mutual Recognition Agreement (AEC 2015)
B. Mutual Recognition Agreement (APEC)

III. THE ENGINEERS REGISTERS

A. APEC Engineer Register
B. ASEAN Engineer Register
C. ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer Register
The Philippine
International
Commitments and
Agreements
THE PHILIPPINE INTERNATIONAL COMMITMENTS

Multilateral
WTO-GATS
IMO-STCW

Plurilateral
ASEAN-Australia-New Zealand Free Trade Agreement
(FTA)
ASEAN Qualifications Reference Framework
APEC
INTERNATIONAL COMMITMENTS contd

Regional
ASEAN-CCS and MRA
ASEAN Plus EU
ASEAN-Korea FTA
ASEAN-China FTA
ASEAN-India FTA
ASEAN-Japan FTA
INTERNATIONAL COMMITMENTS contd

Bilateral
Philippine-European Union Cooperative Partnership
Agreement
PhilippineJapan Economic Partnership Agreement
Philippine-Transpacific Partnership
 GENERAL AGREEMENT ON TARIFF IN SERVICES

Negotiated during the Uruguay Round (123) 87

months (1986-1994)

Enforced by WTO since 1JAN1995

GATS is a treaty (or international trade agreement)

of WTO
It establishes the trade rules governing cross-
border trade in services for WTO member countries
Intended to make it easier for services and service
providers to move from one country to another.
GATS contd
GATS ARTICLE VII: Recognition

a Member may recognize the

education or experience obtained,
requirements met, or licenses or
certifications granted in a particular
country. Such recognition, which may
be achieved through harmonization or
otherwise, may be based upon an
agreement or arrangement with the
country concerned or may be accorded
autonomously.
GATS contd
GATS Four (4) Mode of Supply

1
Cross-boarder Trade

2
Consumption Abroad

3
Commercial Presence

4
Presence of Natural Persons
MODES

The 1st Mode of Supply

Member A Member B

Supply of a service from the

territory of one Member into the
territory of any other Member

MODE 1
CROSS-BORDER TRADE

Service Service
supplier consumer

WTO/OMC
WEB or internet based
Engineering Services
MODES

The 2nd Mode of Supply

Member A Member B

Supply of a service in the territory

of one Member to the service
consumer of any other Member

Service MODE 2 Service

supplier CONSUMPTION ABROAD consumer
WTO/OMC
 Supply of Continuing
Professional Education
MODES

The 3rd Mode of Supply

Member A Member B

Supply of a service by a service supplier

of one Member, through commercial
presence in the territory of any other
$ Member

MODE 3
COMMERCIAL PRESENCE
Service
supplier
Service consumer

WTO/OMC
MODES

The 4th Mode of Supply

Member A Member B

Supply of a service by a service

supplier of a Member, through
presence of natural persons of a
Member in the territory of any other
Member

i.e. Experts,
Consultants &
Lecturers
Service
supplier
MODE 4 Service
PRESENCE OF NATURAL PERSON consumer
WTO/OMC
 i.e. Experts,
Consultants &
Lecturers
 ASEAN FEDERATION OF ENGINEERING
ORGANIZATION
The ASEAN Federation of Engineering
Organizations (AFEO) is a non-governmental body.
Its members are the engineering institutions and
organizations of ASEAN countries
Main Objectives AFEO?

To promote goodwill and mutual understanding

To establish and develop a ASEAN baseline
standard for the engineering profession with the
objective of facilitating the mobility of the
engineers within the ASEAN countries.
AFEOs Very Important Mission

To spearhead and to facilitate the mobility of

engineers within the ASEAN Free Trade Area, i.e.
AFTA with the formation of the ASEAN Engineers
Register i.e. the AER.
This is in line with the AFTA's AFAS - programming
for the liberalization of professional services within
ASEAN to prepare for globalization under the
World Trade Organization (WTO) initiative.
Objectives of AFAS

to enhance cooperation in services in order to improve the

1 efficiency and competitiveness, diversify production capacity and
supply and distribution of services of their service suppliers

to eliminate substantially restrictions to trade in services

2 amongst Member States; and

to liberalize trade in services by expanding the depth and scope of

3 liberalization beyond those undertaken by Member States under
the GATS with the aim to realizing a free trade area in services.
AFAS Article V: Recognition
ASEAN Member States may recognize the
education or experience obtained, requirements
met, or licenses or certifications granted in another
ASEAN Member State, for the purpose of licensing
or certification of service suppliers.
ASEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY
 SINGLE MARKET AND
PRODUCTION BASE
ASEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY
2015 Free flow of
professional
services

Free
flow of
goods Free
flow of
capital
Free
flow of
investm
ent
Free
flow of
skilled
Source: labor
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The ASEAN MRA: OBJECTIVES

1 Facilitate mobility of practitioners within ASEAN

Exchange information and enhance cooperation

2 in respect of mutual recognition of practitioners

Promote adoption of best practices on

3 standards and qualifications

Provide opportunities for capacity building and

4 training of practitioners
 To facilitate mobility of
The 1st OBJECTIVE engineering services
professionals
 Exchange information and
The 2nd OBJECTIVE enhance cooperation in
respect of mutual
recognition of
practitioners
 Promote adoption of best
The 3rd OBJECTIVE practices on standards
and qualifications
 Provide opportunities for
The 4th OBJECTIVE capacity building and
training of practitioners
MOBILITY OF
FILIPINO ENGINEERS
MUTUAL RECOGNITION AGREEMENT (AEC 2015)

Outbound Market: 9 ASEAN Countries

FACPE can practice his
engineering profession as
RFPE in collaboration or
partnership with
designated professional
engineer in the host-
country.
Not as an
independent
practitioner. *
MUTUAL RECOGNITION AGREEMENT (AEC 2015)

Inbound Market: Philippines

FACPE as the
designated Filipino
professional engineer
may collaborate or
partner with an ACPE
of other ASEAN
Country as RFPE.
MUTUAL RECOGNITION AGREEMENT (APEC)

Market: 14 APEC Economies

Join overseas projects
and practice the
profession in APEC
Engineer economies
without having to
undertake further
examination or interview.
Allowed independent
practice only within the
limits of their
competence.
MOBILITY OF FILIPINO ENGINEERS

ASEAN and Asia-Pacific MARKET

Passport - PRC Professional License

- APEC Engineer
Entry Visa - ASEAN Engineer
- ASEAN Chartered Professional
Engineer
THE ENGINEER
REGISTERS
APEC ENGINEER
Member Economies
The Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC)
A Consultative Forum of 21 Countries

Canada USA Mexico Peru Chile Russia

South Korea China Hong Kong Japan
Vietnam Philippines Brunei Singapore
Malaysia Thailand Chinese Taipei Indonesia
Papua New Guinea Australia New Zealand
Registered APEC Engineers as of 2015
APEC APEC
Economies Economies
Engineers Engineers
Australia 400 New Zealand 1,472
Canada 16 Philippines 65
Hong Kong, China 37 Russia 30 (3)
Indonesia 26 Singapore 12
Japan 2,589 Chinese Taipei 80
South Korea 970 Thailand 37
Malaysia 341 USA 219
TOTAL 6294 (3)
Source: APEC Engineer Register, Challenges , Ir. Dr. Gue See Sew
APEC Registered EEs as of June 2014

RODOLFO R. PEALOSA ASISCLO T. GONZAGA

FRANCISCO L. VIRAY MIGUEL H. LAGMAN
RODOLFO N. FERRER DANIEL M. GONZAGA
VIRGILIO C. FLORDELIZA FORTUNATO C. LEYNES
WILLIAM W. YANG JAIME V. MENDOZA
JOSE B. ABINOJA JESUS P. ROMERO
APEC APPLICANTS CHECKLIST

Covering Letter Addressed to the President of PTC

Endorsement Letter From IIEE (National)
Certificate of Good Standing from IIEE (National)
Curriculum Vitae w/ Attached Recent Passport Size
Photographs (2 x 2), white background
PRC Certificate of Registration
APEC APPLICANTS CHECKLIST

Valid Professional Identification Card

Accomplished Application Form
Career Episode Report
Applicants Declaration (Notarized)
Supporting Documents
APEC APPLICANTS CHECKLIST

Note:
1. Submit triplicate copies and 1 softcopy of the
accomplished application forms, including all
supporting documents;
2. Use A4 size of white bond paper, of not less than
substance (80 gms) thickness shall be used throughout;
3. Photocopies of large documents shall be reduced
accordingly complete with table of Contents and Tab.
4. Each set shall be submitted using a CLEAR BOOK
FOLDER.
5. All applications must be originally-signed
ASEAN ENGINEER REGISTER
Members Organization
The ASEAN Federation of Engineering Organizations
(AFEO)
A non-governmental body of engineering institutions and
organizations of ASEAN countries

Pertubuhan Ukur, Jurutera dan Arkitek (PUJA) Engineering

Institution of Cambodia (EIC) Persatuan Insinyur Indonesia
(PII) Institution of Engineers, Malaysia (IEM) Myanmar
Engineering Society (MES) Lao Union of Science and
Engineering Associations (LUSEA) Philippine Technological
Council (PTC) Institution of Engineers, Singapore (IES) The
Engineering Institute of Thailand Under H.M. The Kings
Patronage (EIT) Vietnam Union of Science and Technology
Associations (VUSTA)
REs in the ASEAN Region (May 2015)
Economies Registered Engineers
Brunei 166
Cambodia 1800
Indonesia 340,500
Lao, PDR n.a.
Malaysia 10,822
Myanmar 42,835
Philippines 403,712
Singapore 1,768
Thailand 135,000
Vietnam 125,000
Total 1,061,603
Source: Creating and Nurturing Service , Salvador P. Castro, Jr
REs in the ASEAN Region (May 2015)
Economies Registered Engineers %RE
Brunei 166 0.016
Cambodia 1800 0.170
Indonesia 340,500 32.074
Lao, PDR n.a. n.a.
Malaysia 10,822 1.019
Myanmar 42,835 4.035
Philippines 403,712 38.029
Singapore 1,768 0.167
Thailand 135,000 12.717
Vietnam 125,000 11.775
Total 1,061,603
Source: Creating and Nurturing Service , Salvador P. Castro, Jr
ASEAN Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ASEAN Engineers
Brunei 44
Cambodia 261
Indonesia 149
Lao, PDR 12
Malaysia 761
Myanmar 170
Philippines 283
Singapore 24
Thailand 30
Vietnam 108
Total 1,842
http://aer.afeo.org/find-engineer/
ASEAN Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ASEAN Engineers %AE
Brunei 44 2.552
Cambodia 261 11.217
Indonesia 149 8.843
Lao, PDR 12 0.712
Malaysia 761 45.104
Myanmar 170 10.089
Philippines 283 12.107
Singapore 24 1.187
Thailand 30 1.780
Vietnam 108 6.409
Total 1,842
http://aer.afeo.org/find-engineer/
ASEAN Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ASEAN Engineers %AE REs
Brunei 44 2.552 166
Cambodia 261 11.217 1800
Indonesia 149 8.843 340,500
Lao, PDR 12 0.712 n.a.
Malaysia 761 45.104 10,822
Myanmar 170 10.089 42,835
Philippines 283 12.107 403,712
Singapore 24 1.187 1,768
Thailand 30 1.780 135,000
Vietnam 108 6.409 125,000
Total 1,842 1,061,603
http://aer.afeo.org/find-engineer/
ASEAN Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ASEAN Engineers %AE REs %AE/RE
Brunei 44 2.552 166 25.904
Cambodia 261 11.217 1800 10.500
Indonesia 149 8.843 340,500 0.044
Lao, PDR 12 0.712 n.a.
Malaysia 761 45.104 10,822 7.023
Myanmar 170 10.089 42,835 0.397
Philippines 283 12.107 403,712 0.051
Singapore 24 1.187 1,768 1.131
Thailand 30 1.780 135,000 0.022
Vietnam 108 6.409 125,000 0.086
Total 1,842 1,061,603 0.159
http://aer.afeo.org/find-engineer/
ASEAN Registered Philippine EEs
GERMAN A. UMALI ARTHUR N. ESCALANTE
WILSON L. CHUA HIPOLITO A. LEONCIO
FE M. BARRIENTOS WILLINGTON KKC TAN
MIGUEL H. LAGMAN JULES S. ALCANTARA
ARTHUR H. LOPEZ ALEX C. CABUGAO
AMADOR L. CALADO, JR. NESTOR T. RIVERA
FRANCIS V. MAPILE ELENOR M. REYES
EDWARD L. MENDOZA MARIA LOURDES V. BALANSAY
RODOLFO N. FERRER PATERNO C. CABANGISAN
DANIEL M. GONZAGA FERDINAND D. MILAN
ARMANDO R. DIAZ FRELAN F. BRIMBUELA
RAYMOND MARQUEZ
AER APPLICANTS CHECKLIST

Covering Letter Addressed to the President of PTC

Endorsement Letter From IIEE (National)
Certificate of Good Standing from IIEE (National)
Curriculum Vitae w/ Attached Recent Passport Size
Photographs (2 x 2), white background
PRC Certificate of Registration
AER APPLICANTS CHECKLIST

Valid Professional Identification Card

Accomplished Application Form
Applicants Declaration (Notarized)
Supporting Documents
AER APPLICANTS CHECKLIST

Note:
1. Submit triplicate copies and 1 softcopy of the
accomplished application forms, including all
supporting documents;
2. Use A4 size of white bond paper, of not less than
substance (80 gms) thickness shall be used throughout;
3. Photocopies of large documents shall be reduced
accordingly complete with table of Contents and Tab.
4. Each set shall be submitted using a CLEAR BOOK
FOLDER.
5. All applications must be originally-signed
 ASEAN Chartered
Professional ENGINEER
REGISTER
ASEAN Member Countries
ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer (ACPE)
A Registered Foreign Professional Engineer
(RFPE) under MRA

Brunei Darussalam The Kingdom of Cambodia

The Republic of Indonesia Lao Peoples
Democratic Republic Malaysia The Union of
Myanmar The Republic of the Philippines The
Republic of Singapore The Kingdom of Thailand
The Socialist Republic of Viet Nam,
ACPE Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ACP Engineers
Brunei 2
Cambodia 0
Indonesia 486
Lao, PDR 0
Malaysia 207
Myanmar 101
Philippines 77
Singapore 229
Thailand 24
Vietnam 134
Total 1260
Source: http://acpecc.net/v2/
ACPE Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ACP Engineers %AcE
Brunei 2 0.159
Cambodia 0 0.000
Indonesia 486 38.571
Lao, PDR 0 0.000
Malaysia 207 16.429
Myanmar 101 8.016
Philippines 77 6.11
Singapore 229 18.175
Thailand 24 1.905
Vietnam 134 10.635
Total 1260
Source: http://acpecc.net/v2/
ACPE Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ACP Engineers %AcE REs
Brunei 2 0.159 166
Cambodia 0 0.000 1800
Indonesia 486 38.571 340,500
Lao, PDR 0 0.000 n.a.
Malaysia 207 16.429 10,822
Myanmar 101 8.016 42,835
Philippines 77 6.11 403,712
Singapore 229 18.175 1,768
Thailand 24 1.905 135,000
Vietnam 134 10.635 125,000
Total 1260 1,061,603
Source: http://acpecc.net/v2/
ACPE Registered Engineers as of Nov. 2015
Economies ACP Engineers %AcE REs %AcE/RE
Brunei 2 0.159 166 1.205
Cambodia 0 0.000 1800 0.000
Indonesia 486 38.571 340,500 0.143
Lao, PDR 0 0.000 n.a.
Malaysia 207 16.429 10,822 1.913
Myanmar 101 8.016 42,835 0.263
Philippines 77 6.11 403,712 0.019
Singapore 229 18.175 1,768 12.952
Thailand 24 1.905 135,000 0.018
Vietnam 134 10.635 125,000 0.107
Total 1260 1,061,603 0.119
Source: http://acpecc.net/v2/
ACPE Registered Philippine EEs

JAIME V. MENDOZA RODOLFO R. PEALOSA

FRANCIS V. MAPILE ENGR. JEFFREY T. TANJUTCO
ARMANDO R. DIAZ FLORIGO C. VARONA
LARRY C. CRUZ ROGELIO M. AVENIDO
ANGEL V. DE VERA, JR. RAYMOND A. MARQUEZ
CIRILO C. CALIBJO ENGR. FORTUNATO C. LEYNES
GREGORIO CAYETANO
ACPE APPLICANT'S CHECKLIST

Letter of Intent
Duly accomplished ACPE Application Form with
attached Certificate/s of Employment covering a period
not less than seven (7) years; Certification of Project
completion
CPE/CPD Certificate of Credit Units earned
Copy of Diploma
Certified True Copy of Transcript of Records
CHED Certificate of Equivalency (when applicable)
PRC Certificate of Registration
ACPE APPLICANT'S CHECKLIST

Valid PRC Professional Identification Card

Certificate of No Pending Administrative Case issued by
the PRC
Certificate of Good Standing issued by the respective
APO
Original copy of valid NBI Clearance
Signed Statement of Compliance with Code of Ethics
(Notarized)
Recent four (4) passport size pictures, white background
with name tag (coat and tie for men; blazer for women)
ACPE APPLICANT'S CHECKLIST

Note:
1. Submit triplicate copies of the accomplished
application forms, including copies of all supporting
documents;
2. Use legal size (8 1/2" x 13") of paper throughout;
3. Photocopies of large documents shall be reduced
accordingly.
4. Each set shall be submitted in Clear book, complete
with table of contents/tab.
5. All applications must be originally-signed
 Summary of Engineer Registers
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER ACPE
Historical APEC leaders Initiated by AFEO The ASEAN
Background meeting in 1995 at Formation was Economic Ministers
Osaka agreed during the signed the ASEAN
Formal Register Nov. 23, 1998, MRA on Engg
started in 2000 Manila meeting Services in 2005
Formal Register Formal Register
started in 1999 started in 2013
 Summary of Engineer Registers
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER ACPE
Member Australia Brunei Brunei
Economies Canada Cambodia Cambodia
Hong Kong, China Indonesia Indonesia
Indonesia Laos Laos
Japan Malaysia Malaysia
South Korea Myanmar Myanmar
Malaysia Philippines Philippines
New Zealand Singapore Singapore
Philippines Thailand Thailand
Russia Vietnam Vietnam
Singapore
Thailand
The Chinese Taipei
USA
 Summary of Engineer Registers
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER ACPE
Minimum Engg Degree from Engineering Engineering
Qualifica- COE or COD Degree recognized Degree recognized
tions schools by CHED by CHED
Valid professional Valid professional Valid professional
certificate of certificate of certificate of
registration and/or registration and/or registration and/or
professional ID professional ID professional ID
Member in good Member in good Member in good
standing standing standing
7 yrs of practical 7 yrs of practical 7 yrs of practical
experience, 2 yrs of experience, 2 yrs of experience, 2 yrs of
which is of which is of which is of
substantial substantial substantial
charge charge charge
Maintain CPD at a Maintain CPD at a Maintain CPD at a
satisfactory level satisfactory level satisfactory level
 Summary of Engineer Registers
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER ACPE
Registration Covering Letter Cover Letter Letter of Intent
Requirements Curriculum Vitae Curriculum Vitae Application Form
Application form Application Form Diploma & TOR
PRC Certificate of PRC Certificate of PRC Certificate of
Registration Registration Registration
Valid PRC ID Valid PRC ID Valid PRC ID
CPD CPD CPD
COGS from IIEE COGS from IIEE COGS from IIEE
Career Episode Report Applicants Certificate of No
Applicants Declaration Pending Case Issued
Declaration Recent ID (2 x 2) by PRC
Recent ID (2 x 2) NBI Clearance
Statement of
Compliance of the
Code of Ethics
Passport size picture
 Summary of Engineer Registers
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER ACPE
International Join overseas Provide complete Permitted to work
Agreement projects and data of PEs within as an RFPE, not in
practice the ASEAN with the independent
profession in APEC purpose of practice, but in
Engineer facilitating their collaboration with
economies without mobility. designated PE in
having to Establish a HC
undertake further framework of MR Provide engg
examination or of qualifications in services only in
interview. order to allow areas of
Allowed engineers to competence
independent practice outside Undertake
practice only their home country assignments in
within the limits of to carry with them specific profession
their competence. a guarantee of in which he has
ability. been registered.
 Summary of Engineer Registers
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER ACPE
Managed by National Philippine ASEAN
Monitoring Technological Monitoring
Committee Council Committee on
Engineering
o PRC o APO
Services in the
o CHED o PTC Philippines
o PTC o AFEO o PRC
o PRB
o CHED
o PTC
 Summary of Registration Requirements
PARAMETERS APEC ENGINEER ASEAN ENGINEER
Qualification 7 yrs, 2 yrs of which is of 7 yrs, 2 yrs of which is of
Requirements substantial charge substantial charge
Documentation 3 sets of application form filled 3 sets of application form filled
Requirements up, and supporting documents up, and supporting documents
including Engineers including Engineers
Application Fee Php 2,500.00 Php 2,500.00
Application and Php 10,000.00 per 3 yrs Entrance US$ 50.00
Membership Fees 3-yrs due US$ 100.00 or
Entrance US$ 50.00
Lifetime US$ 200.00
Registration Certificate Certificate & Medallion
Application Filing File with APO File with APO
APO endorses to PTC APO endorses to PTC
NMC (PTC, PRC and CHED) PTC endorses to AFEO
decides GOVERNING BOARD
 Summary of Registration Requirements
PARAMETERS ASSOCIATE ASEAN ENGINEER ACPER
Qualification New graduate to 6 yrs 11 7 yrs, 2 yrs of which is of
Requirements months substantial charge
Documentation 3 sets of application form filled 3 sets of application form filled
Requirements up, and supporting documents up, and supporting documents
including Engineers including Engineers
Application Fee Php 150.00 Php 2,000.00
Application and Entrance Php 500.00 Registration Php 5,000.00
Membership Fees Membership Php 1,000.00/yr Renewal Php 5,000.00 / 3 yrs

Registration Certificate & Medallion Certificate

Application Filing File with APO File with APO
APO endorses to APO endorses to AMCESP
PTC decides AMCESP endorses to PRB
Findings submitted to AMCESP
AMCESP endorses to PRC
 Proposed Link with Benchmarking
Registers of World Trade Organizations
WFEO WTO

Other ASEAN APEC FEANI Intl EMF Other

Regional Engineer Engineer Euro Engineer Regional
Register Register Register Engineer Register Register
Register
Note:
WFEO World of Federation of Engineering Organizations
FEANI Federation of European National Engineering Association
Benefits
Benchmark of achievement of Professional
Engineers;
The various titles awarded give peer recognition for
respective competencies and capabilities;
It will accord the necessary respect, recognition as
an accredited technical person;
Benefits
This will enhance employment prospects and
business ventures into other ASEAN and Asia Pacific
countries.
Migration of the imbalance of demand and supply
of engineers within countries in the region
Mutual exemption from assessment for the purpose
of working and practicing engineering profession in
economies participating in the ASEAN Chartered
Professional Engineer scheme
Benefits
Higher compensation for those who work abroad
Help obtain higher points for those seeking
residency or migrating to other ASEAN countries
Chance to be a business partner of a Registered
Foreign Professional Engineer from other ASEAN
countries
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