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Startedbyknightal,March20
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knightal PostedMarch20Reportpost
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Hi
Ihaverecentlyboughta2007ToyotaAurionSportivoSX6ithas150klm's
onthespeedo.
Allisgooddrivingaroundtown,howeverwhentravelingonthehighwayat
speedsof100110km/hrafterabout20minutesifIstopatarestcenter
RegularMember andthentakeoffoutintothetrafficuponacceleratingthereisahuge
0 amountofexcessiveexhaustsmoke.
18posts
FirstName:Allan ThenthefollowingmorningatstartupifIrevitupasinthevideoattachment
Gender*:Male
thesamecanbeseentohappen.
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
SX6
Thecarhasa3monthwarrantyandithasbeenbacktotheToyota
Year:2007
Location:NewSouthWales dealershipandtheyreplacedthePCVvalvebutthisobviouslywasnotthe
problem.
Cananyonesuggestanythingelsethatcouldcausethisproblem?
Toyota_Exhaust2[1].mp4
CHA54 PostedMarch20(edited)Reportpost
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valvestemsealsismybet.Getitcompressiontestedtoensureit'snota
ring/pistonissueandcheckthevalvetrainisn'tsludgedupunderthecam
whichwouldindicatepoorservicehistory
EditedMarch20byCHA54
RegularMember
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2,886posts
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:various
knightal PostedMarch20Reportpost
Member
On3/20/2016at8:57PM,CHA54said:
valvestemsealsismybet.Getitcompressiontestedtoensureit'snot
aring/pistonissueandcheckthevalvetrainisn'tsludgedupunderthe
camwhichwouldindicatepoorservicehistory
RegularMember
HI
0
18posts
Yesthelogbooksshowthatalotoftheserviceswerenotdone.
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male
ThecarwasboughtfromBallinaandIhadthishappenonthewayhome,
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
tookittotheToyotadealershipandtheyreplacedthePCVvalve.Itookitfor
SX6
Year:2007 alongdriveyesterdaytotestthingsoutattheirsuggestionandhadthe
Location:NewSouthWales sameproblem.
I'mnotallthatmechanicallymindedsohopefullytheywillcheckwhatyou
havedescribed,itiscoveredunderthewarranty.Thecarisbookedintothe
localToyotadealershiphereinPortMacquariethisWednesday.
Thanksforyourinfomuchappreciated.
mg85 PostedMarch23Reportpost
RegularMember
HiAllan,
Letusknowhowyougetonay,asyouhavenodoubtdiscoveredscheduled
servicingisparamountonmostmoderncars.
RegularMember
11
44posts
FirstName:Mark
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:Aurion
Year:2011
Location:Queensland
knightal PostedMarch23Reportpost
Member
On3/23/2016at2:52PM,mg85said:
HiAllan,
Letusknowhowyougetonay,asyouhavenodoubtdiscovered
scheduledservicingisparamountonmostmoderncars.
RegularMember
0 Hi
18posts
FirstName:Allan Yesyouarerightretheservice.IjusthadacallfromtheToyotaservice
Gender*:Male
manager.
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
SX6
Theyhaveremovedthetoppartsofthemotorsoastoseeinsidethe
Year:2007
Location:NewSouthWales
engine,andhavedoneacompleteengineflush.Drainedalltheoldoiland
changedtheoilfilter.
Hesaidthatthemotorlooksallokandtheyarehappythatitshouldbefine
now,wantstokeepitforanothernighttogiveacoldstartinthe
morning.Theyhavehaditforthreedayssohopefullyallshouldbegood.I'll
goforanothertriptotestitalloutandletyouknowhowitallendsup.
Appreciatetheinfofromeveryonehere.
Regards
Allan
KAA PostedMarch23(edited)Reportpost
AdvancedMember
HiAllangoodtoohearthattheyarehopefullysolvingtheissueforyou..keep
usuptospeedastotheoutcomemate
KAA
EditedMarch24byKAA
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13
160posts
FirstName:Robert
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:AurionPresara
Year:2009
Location:NewSouthWales
CHA54 PostedMarch23Reportpost
AdvancedMember
Iwishyouthebestbutinmyexperience,withanenginesmokingthatbad
anengineflushandoilchangewilldonothingtoresolvethesourceofthe
problem(ValveStemSealsorringproblem)
2peoplelikethis
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2,886posts
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:various
knightal PostedMarch27(edited)Reportpost
Member
On3/23/2016at8:30PM,CHA54said:
Iwishyouthebestbutinmyexperience,withanenginesmokingthat
badanengineflushandoilchangewilldonothingtoresolvethe
sourceoftheproblem(ValveStemSealsorringproblem)
RegularMember
HiGuys
0
18posts
Wouldappreciateyourthoughtsonthisupdate.Twoshortvideosadded.
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male
IgotthecarbackfromtheToyotaDealershipaftertheydidanengineflush
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
andoilchangeandpresumetheychangedtheoilfilteraswell.ThePVC
SX6
Year:2007 valehasalsobeenreplaced.
Location:NewSouthWales
Tookthecarfora2hourdriveonthehighwaysoastorunat110kms/hour
westoppedatareststopforabout10mins,tookoffandallseemedOKno
hugeplumesofsmokeasonpreviousoccasions.
Thetwovideosshowsmallamountsofsmokeatacoldstartup.Thethe
onedated26thMarchisthemorningafterthe2hourrun,andtheone
dated25thMarchisthemorningafterashort1hourrun,withbothhighway
andaroundtownrunning.
IwilltakeitbacktoToyotaonTuesdayaftertheEasterbreakandseewhat
theyhavetosay,butwouldappreciateanythoughtsyouhaveifyougetto
readthisprior.
IshouldnotethatIdon'tnormallyrevmycarlikethisundernormal
circumstances.:)
Regards
Allan
26thMarch.mp4
25March.mp4
EditedMarch27byknightal
trentmeyer23 PostedMarch27Reportpost
AdvancedMember
Howlonghaditsatbeforethosevideos?
I'mwithCHA54onthisone,ringsorvalvestemseals.Aleakdowntest
wouldbeagoodidea.
SuperModerator
313
4,183posts
FirstName:Trent
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:TurboCamry,
CorollaandHiluxDualCab
Year:1993
Location:Queensland
knightal
PostedMarch27Reportpost
Member
On3/27/2016at4:27PM,trentmeyer23said:
Howlonghaditsatbeforethosevideos?
I'mwithCHA54onthisone,ringsorvalvestemseals.
RegularMember
0 Hitrentmeyer23
18posts
FirstName:Allan Itwasovernightonbothoccasions.Sayfromabout4pmuntilabout10am
Gender*:Male nextday
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
SX6 Regards
Year:2007 Allan
Location:NewSouthWales
trentmeyer23 PostedMarch27Reportpost
AdvancedMember
Diditgoaway/lessenafterrunningforawhile?
SuperModerator
313
4,183posts
FirstName:Trent
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:TurboCamry,
CorollaandHiluxDualCab
Year:1993
Location:Queensland
knightal PostedMarch27Reportpost
Member
On3/27/2016at4:41PM,trentmeyer23said:
Diditgoaway/lessenafterrunningforawhile?
YesafterthelocalToyotaworkshopdidtheworkpreviouslydescribedthe
smokehasreduceddramatically.Iattachedavideoinmyoriginalpostthat
RegularMember showswhatitwaslike.Itwasverybadcarsbehindmeatthattimecould
0 almostnotbeseen.
18posts
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo ThisiswhatisintheservicelogbookwhichwasgiventomewhenIleftthe
SX6 caryardinBallania.andthe150KservicewasdonebythecaryardI
Year:2007 boughtitfrom.
Location:NewSouthWales
Servicehistoryfromthelogbook
30kyes
37.5Kno
45Kno
52.5Kno
60Kno
67.5Kno
75Kyes
82Kno
90Kno
97.5Kno
105Kno
112.5Kno
120Kno
127.5Kno
135Kno
142.5kno
150kyes
CurrentKM'sis150km
Regards
Allan
knightal PostedMarch27Reportpost
Member
Hithisvideoshowswhatitwaslike.ThisalsoisthemorningafterIarrived
homefromBallinaaboutan6hourdrive
Badexhaust.mp4
RegularMember
0
18posts
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
SX6
Year:2007
Location:NewSouthWales
trentmeyer23 PostedMarch27Reportpost
AdvancedMember
So,itdoesitinthemorningandgoesawaythemoreyoudriveduringthe
day?
SuperModerator
313
4,183posts
FirstName:Trent
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:TurboCamry,
CorollaandHiluxDualCab
Year:1993
Location:Queensland
knightal PostedMarch27(edited)Reportpost
Member
Yesthat'srightactuallyitisfineafterthefirststartup.
WhenIpickeditupfromBallinaitwasdrivenaroundtownalldayanddid
nothaveanyproblemuntilIheadedhomeandstoppedatareststop.
ButtodateyesifIwastohopinnowandjustdrivelocallyroundtownitis
fine.
RegularMember
0 Juststartedittherewasaverysmallamountofsmoke,it,sbeenparkedup
18posts alldayjuststartedthismorning.
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male EditedMarch27byknightal
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo addtext
SX6
Year:2007
Location:NewSouthWales
trentmeyer23 PostedMarch27Reportpost
AdvancedMember
Soundsexactlylikevalvestemseals.
Theoilpoolsthereoverlongperiodsoftheenginebeingswitchoffand
burnsoffwhenstarted.
Itdoesnotsitthereaslongwhenthecarisrunningandisburntoffin
smalleramounts,straightawaywhichisbarelynoticable.
SuperModerator
313
4,183posts
FirstName:Trent
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:TurboCamry,
CorollaandHiluxDualCab
Year:1993
Location:Queensland
knightal PostedMarch27Reportpost
Member
Thanksfortheinputyouguysitisreallyappreciated.
Iwillsuggestthistothe(PortMacquarie)Toyotadealership.Theywillneed
tocontacttheyardinBallinaIguesstogettheapprovalforthenecessary
worktobedone.
I'llupdatewhenIknowmore.
RegularMember
0 Regards
18posts Allan.
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo
SX6
Year:2007
Location:NewSouthWales
CHA54 PostedMarch28Reportpost
AdvancedMember
That'soneoftheworseservicehistoriesI'veeverseenwheretheyhaven't
actuallythrownawaythelogbooktotryandhidethehistory...
I'mveryconfidentthevalvestemsealsrequirereplacingandI'llbetthe
combustionchamberscoulddowithagooddecokingalso.ThePCV
wouldhavebeengunkeduppreviouslymakingthevalvestemsealsleak
RegularMember more,soreplacing/cleaningthePCVwouldhavemadeitalittlebetterasit
13 reducesthecrankcasepressureonthestemseals.
2,886posts
Gender*:Male Ifyouwanttorecreatethesmokeontheroad,flickitintomanualshift
ToyotaModel:various
modesoitwillholdthegearyou'rein,findalongdownhillsectionand
enginebrakeallthewaydownthehill.Atthebottomofthehillaccelerate
awayandyouwillseealargeplumeofsmokeouttherear.
Willbeaveryexpensiverepairbillforthecaryardtocover,there'satonof
labourinvolvedtoreplaceall24sealsasthevalvetrainbasicallyneedstobe
removedtoaccessthem(ifthedealerisconfidenttochangethemwiththe
headsonthemotor)
trentmeyer23 PostedMarch28Reportpost
AdvancedMember
I'mnotsurewhyyouwouldbuyitwiththatservicehistory.
SuperModerator
313
4,183posts
FirstName:Trent
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:TurboCamry,
CorollaandHiluxDualCab
Year:1993
Location:Queensland
knightal PostedMarch30Reportpost
Member
On3/28/2016at11:01AM,trentmeyer23said:
I'mnotsurewhyyouwouldbuyitwiththatservicehistory.
Yesyourprobablyrightthere,bitnaiveonmypart.
ThecarwassoldasaoneownerwithfullservicehistoryandIdidnotget
thelogbooksuntilIwasactuallyleaving.
RegularMember
OntheupsidethelocalToyotadealershiparestilllookingintotheproblem
0 andthedealerinBallinahasgiventhemtheOKtocontinuetolookintowhat
18posts theproblemis.
FirstName:Allan
Gender*:Male Ihavementionedthevalvestemsealasapossiblecause,howeverfrom
ToyotaModel:AurionSportivo theirinspectionssofartheyaren'trulingitoutbutsaidit'srareinthemotor
SX6
that'sinmycar.
Year:2007
Location:NewSouthWales
ItgoesbackintotheworkshopnextTuesday,soI'llletyouknowwhatthey
find.
Regards
Allan
mg85 PostedMarch30Reportpost
RegularMember
ThanksforkeepingusinformedAllan,willbeinterestingtoseetheoutcome.
1personlikesthis
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11
44posts
FirstName:Mark
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:Aurion
Year:2011
Location:Queensland
trentmeyer23 PostedMarch30Reportpost
AdvancedMember
On3/30/2016at11:08AM,knightalsaid:
Ihavementionedthevalvestemsealasapossiblecause,however
fromtheirinspectionssofartheyaren'trulingitoutbutsaidit'srarein
themotorthat'sinmycar.
SuperModerator Itprobablyisn'tacommonissueforanenginethisnewthathasbeen
maintainedcorrectlyhowever,thisonehasnot.
313
4,183posts IpersonallyhaveanAurionwithsimilarkmsandIdonothavethisissue,but
FirstName:Trent ithasalwaysbeenmaintainedcorrectly.
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:TurboCamry,
1personlikesthis
CorollaandHiluxDualCab
Year:1993
Location:Queensland
campbeam PostedApril4Reportpost
RegularMember
Similarexperiencewithmy2006AurionATXwith165,000KM.Apparently,
the2GRFEenginesarepronetoenginesludgeespeciallyifpoorquality
engineoilshavebeenusedornotservicedproperly.AfterafewGoogle
searches,Ifoundapostthatexplainedthatenginesludgewasblockingoil
channelsandpreventingtheoilfromdrainingproperlyfromthevalve
covers,ThePCVvalveisthensuckingtheoilintotheintakeandthis
RegularMember explainswhythereisexhaustsmokewhenyoufirststarttheengine.Later
6 onatriptoWaggaWagga,Inoticedasignificantbluesmokescreenwhen
41posts acceleratinghardonthehighway.Engineoillevelwasfullinthemorning
FirstName:Ashley andmidafternoonaftertravelling600kmtheoillevelwasbelowthelow
Gender*:Male
level.
ToyotaModel:Aurion
Year:2006
Onequicksolutionistoeitherreplaceorremovethe2valvecoversand
Location:Queensland
soakthemindegreasertoremovetheaccumulatedoilsludgeintheoil
channels.ThePCVvalvealsoneedstobecleanedsoitcanoperatefreely.
Beforedismantlingtheengine,Ihavedesludgedtheengineafewtimes.
DuringthereturntripfromWaggaWaggatoBrisbane,Iaddedabout500ml
ofdieselbeforeleavingandagainafter600km.Thenewengineoilwas
totallyblackandthenewoilfiltercartridgewascloggedwithsmallblacksoot
likeparticles.Ireplacedtheengineoilandfiltercartridgeplus500mlof
dieselandcheckedafter500km.Againtheoilfiltercartridgewasblocked
withparticlesandtheengineoilreplaced.AfterfurtherGooglesearches,I
foundapostingsuggestingusing500mlofautotransmissionfluidforoil
sludgeremovalasanalternativetodieselbecauseitcontainscleaning
additives.IdidthisandafterrecentlyreturningfromanothertriptoWagga
Wagga[2600KM],Ihavejustreplacedtheoilfiltercartridgeandtoppedup
theengineloilevelwithmoreATF.Insidethevalvecoverandsideofthe
valvetrainistotallycleanwithnoevidenceofoilsludge.Theexcessive
exhaustsmokeisnowtotallygone.MoreGooglesearchessuggestedusing
asyntheticoiltoreduceandminimiseoilsludge.
AlsoaccordingtoanexToyotaDealershipworker,the2GRFEengines,if
properlymaintained,shouldlastabout400,000kmbeforerequiringany
rebuildwork.
Somaybethedealershouldconsideraddingacommercialengineflush
productandhaveyoudrivearoundfor125kmbeforereturningthevehicle
foranotheroilandfilterchange.Thisshouldrevealwhetheritisanoil
sludgeissueorthevalvesealsdoneedtobereplaced.
2peoplelikethis
mg85 PostedApril5Reportpost
RegularMember
Greatinformative(ifsomewhatabitradical)postAshley.
Mypersonalopinionis15,000kmor9monthsofcitydrivingisstretchingthe
serviceintervalsabitfortheAurion,IseesomemanufacturerslikeMazda
arestickingtothe10,000km6monthsserviceintervalsonsomeoftheir
vehicles.
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44posts
FirstName:Mark
Gender*:Male
ToyotaModel:Aurion
Year:2011
Location:Queensland
campbeam PostedApril5Reportpost
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Relatedthreadtitled"Whitesmokeonstartup"started9thJune2011.
Whitesmokeonstartup
Bycoopersmummy06inAurion/TRDAurionClub,June9,2011
I'vegota2006AurionZR6blowingwhitesmokeonstartup.It
RegularMember startedlastweekonFriday.Mypartnersaiditsmellslikeburningoil
6 andmightbeahead...
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FirstName:Ashley 26replies
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ToyotaModel:Aurion
Year:2006 Havealookatthepostdated26August2012from"Leadingshield"whichis
Location:Queensland whatIhaveactioned.
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