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ou812
Passing the ball to the RB in the spread
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We are a spread team w/ no TE and 4 WR. Our pass protection has been a six man pass pro. Our
easiest way to get the RB the ball in the pass game has been screen. It has been very successful.

In our drop back game, he checks, releases and is nearly always open, but when I ask the QB to
get move him up to #1 or #2 in the progression, it inevitable that he will have to pick up a blitz
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and not get into the route. I am very hesitant to go to a 5 man pro for two reasons. It is an extra
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the mouth by blitzing LBs who I have turned loose.

I am playing w/ the idea of allowing the QB to ID Man or Zone and letting him choose to free
release the back vs. zone. Obviously, we are susceptible to the zone blitz, but we very rarely see
it and I doubt that it will be installed just for us. If it is our QB will get hit once and that will be the
end of that experiment for the rest of that game.

Do any of you guys have any other creative solutions?

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« Reply #1 on Apr 14, 2010, 1:45pm »
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I prefer my RB to get in a route rather than block their stud LB. My base pass pro is 5 man BOB.
If we need him I will make the call. May just need him to help with stud DE. If the guy he would
normally pick up comes the QB makes it a hot read and gets it to the RB.
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« Reply #2 on Apr 14, 2010, 2:13pm »
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If you are slide move to half slide when the T releases center now has both a gaps and works with
the backside guard if backside A is covered by a down lineman. If you are Bob center now has to
keep his eyes on the Mike and the first backer strong side of Mike.

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not sure how you set your protection, but we send our RB away from the call (center/guard strong
blocks playside) in most of our dropback/quick protections.

i like tagging the RB for routes within the concepts we have, the tags also tell the QB to work
"weak", by doing this the QB can account for the inside linebacker that would normally be the RB's
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responsibility. then on the other side, the center/guard to protect the QB's backside.
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for me its all about eyes being where they need to be, while minimizing blind side shots that our
QB can't see.
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We are a fan on the RBs side. RB has a duel read, usually inside LB to OLB. (Note- we almost
never get an outside blitz, because we will kill you w/ veer, bubble or screen if they do come.) The
Center, BSG and BST slide and protect the backside A, B and C gaps.

You guys that are free releasing the RB and throwing to him as the hot route vs the LB blitz:
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1) Does the RB have a duel read in your protection? If so, how often will his second read, hug him
Posts: 165 up and cover him? Has this been a problem?

2) When you release the RB and the LB blitzes, what kind of shots is your QB taking?

3) How do you drill this? How often and for how long do you drill this?

4) Does this slow down the QBs progression to the other receivers?

Do any of you guys have video of the RB releasing, the LB coming and the QB throwing hot? I
would love to study the good and the bad to weigh out the pluses and minuses.

Thanks for your input guys!

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We are almost exclusively a 5 man pro team. We rarely deal with our QB taking a hit. We practice
our 5 man protection daily and haven't given up a "real" sack (got sacked a couple times after our
QB couldn't find a man open and tried to scramble).

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In our 5 man pro nothing changes for the OL from 6 man. So if we are in 5 man protection we now
have 2 hot receivers if we are in 6 man only 1 hot. The defender the RB was responsible for is

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now also hot. Pretty simple for the kids to pick up and execute. When we send the RB out it is
normally an arrow or flare and he tends to be wide open, mainly our man routes are when the RB
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When we are empty our running back is another receiver so he must know all the combinations or
we sub for him.

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« Reply #7 on Apr 16, 2010, 12:47pm »
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Check out Coach Slack's R4 DVDs. The RB is often the "Rush" route in our progression. It allows
your QB to look to take a shot deep first and then come down to the RB in a check-release if all
else fails. We dumped it off to the RB a ton this year for great results.

We actually hit our RB on a checkdown on Shakes - which he took 60-yards to the house for a
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« Reply #8 on Apr 16, 2010, 1:21pm »
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If he is open, why are you not throwing him the ball?
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Slip has been very successfull for us. This year we are adding a quick flair & calling it G( using
the same blocking as our G play. It will be pitch & catch. I have watch Texas Tech run something
similar. The recievers will run bubble to flair side. Will let you know how it works after spring
workouts.
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Apr 14, 2010, 8:37pm, ou812 wrote:

We are a fan on the RBs side. RB has a duel read, usually inside LB to OLB. (Note- we almost never get an outside blitz, because
we will kill you w/ veer, bubble or screen if they do come.) The Center, BSG and BST slide and protect the backside A, B and C
gaps.
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Gender: Male You guys that are free releasing the RB and throwing to him as the hot route vs the LB blitz:
Posts: 468 1) Does the RB have a duel read in your protection? If so, how often will his second read, hug him up and cover him? Has this been
a problem?

2) When you release the RB and the LB blitzes, what kind of shots is your QB taking?

3) How do you drill this? How often and for how long do you drill this?

4) Does this slow down the QBs progression to the other receivers?

Do any of you guys have video of the RB releasing, the LB coming and the QB throwing hot? I would love to study the good and the
bad to weigh out the pluses and minuses.

Thanks for your input guys!

to take a quick run at this....

1/2. we operate out of 3 x 1 mostly, and yes we dual read, but it is OFF when we free release the
RB. the flat defender can hug up and cover the RB, but we usually pair this with a slant or quick
breaking route if we are getting backer blitz.

3/4. this doesnt really slow down his reads, if we free releae, we're getting rid of the football,
sitting and waiting isnt a good idea IMO. we can also pair this with a deeper curl route if we know
we arent getting backer blitz. we dont really drill this a ton, but we keep the read easy. (simply
either swing or slant, etc)

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Thanks guys, keep the ideas coming.
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