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04 Inbox
05 Behind the badge
26 True Crime
31 From the archives
06
by the Media & Corporate on the list of unforgettable crimes
Communications Department,
Victoria Police, GPO Box 913, in Victoria. See story on page 06.
Melbourne, 3005. Fax: 9247 5982.
Online
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Editor 20 Helping victims through
Maria Carnovale their pain.
Journalists
Janae Houghton 22 I nvestigating serious crime
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contact the editor. Opinions A SAFER VICTORIA VALUING OUR PEOPLE
expressed are not necessarily
those of Victoria Police.
10 Victorias low murder rate. 18 Improving arson and
explosives investigations.
12 Police keep up with technology
advancement. 31 Memories of Port Arthur.
28 Identifying the face of crime.
18
Echo resounding on
crime
intelligence about the motorcycle
gang, while enforcing traffic laws. There are about 55 OMCG
The police presence sent a clubhouses in Victoria, with more
clear message that any organised than 700 members in their ranks.
motorcycle gangs (OMCGs) Motorcycle runs, like the Hells
engaging in illegal and intimidating Angels one that travelled from
activities would not be tolerated. Thomastown to Phillip Island, often
Detective Superintendent Doug consist of large numbers of riders,
Fryer said the recently-established requiring police to monitor the run
Victoria Police is taking action against Echo Taskforce was set up to over several days.
address OMCG activities.
organised motorcycle gangs. It is staffed by members of
Head of the Echo Taskforce
Detective Acting Inspector Chris
the Crime Department, detectives Murray said the taskforce provided
A SAFER VICTORIA W hen the Hells Angels prepared
to leave their Thomastown
clubhouse for a national run
from regional areas and Highway
Patrol members.
a central point for police across
the state and the country to share
Editorial MARIA CARNOVALE This model is based on best OMCG intelligence and receive
recently, police were waiting. practice from our interstate expert advice and assistance.
About 100 Hells Angels members counterparts who take a holistic We are identifying the level of
were stopped in a coordinated approach towards the law criminality of OMCGs in Victoria
response by police from North West enforcement of OMCGs, he said. and working with all of the regions
Some members of OMCGs to reduce their footprint, he said.
are linked to drug trafficking, Given that OMCGs are trans-
"The taskforce is focusing on disrupting their illegal extortion, car re-birthing and
serious assaults.
national and multi-jurisdictional,
we are also working closely
activities and working with police across the state The taskforce is focusing on
disrupting their illegal activities
with our interstate and federal
partners to determine a holistic
.01
ROAD GANGS
.01 The Echo Taskforce is focusing on
motorcycle gang related crime.
inbox
JUSTICE FOR ASSAULT INCIDENT RESOLVED KEWS CREW
On 1 May, 2009, I was assaulted I would like to express my Thanks to the police who
and stabbed by a group of youths gratitude to members from Malvern attended an attempted robbery
Police Life loves hearing what
who tried to steal my phone in my police station and the Critical on 1 February at our neighbours
you think about the magazine, own neighbourhood in Richmond. Incident Response Team (CIRT) who house. He is a 70-year-old man
your local police and Victoria The assault was prolonged, responded to a serious incident who lives alone and had some loser
Police in general. violent and completely surprising. at the block of flats where I live in knocking on his back door in the
Write, fax or email Police Life
During the assault I managed Glen Iris on Wednesday, 12 January middle of the night.
at: Police Life, PO Box 415,
Melbourne, 3005. to call police who attended between 8.30pm and midnight. We had three police cars at the
Fax: 9247 5982 immediately and managed to arrest The situation arose when a male door before I had even put the
Email: policelife-mgr@police.vic.gov.au all six offenders. Now, over 18 who had been residing with another phone down. The two female police
Follow us on Facebook months later, we are seeing guilty male at the flat had to be arrested were over the fence like athletes
for your chance to win a pleas from these thugs. on a psychiatric warrant by Malvern and showed no fear, just one
victoria police prize pack!
See www.facebook.com/
As a result of this assault, police. When this escalated to a objective, to catch the crook.
policelife for more details. the police involved have been stand-off, the CIRT were required to The sergeant was brilliant,
absolutely fantastic. remove the male. covering three properties with
Detective Senior Constable The situation was successfully other police. The whole team
@BrigidF thank you to all @ Ben Kelly of the Armed Crime resolved, but unfortunately, gas had working together was brilliant.
VictoriaPolice members for Taskforce was the original arresting been turned on in the flat. We were The crook got away, probably
doing such a great job helping member, and his assistance has safely evacuated by the members because he heard me calling the
out in Christchurch. been exemplary. and allowed to return to our units police. I wouldn't have stayed
@nicksanta An IQ of < 60 for I am extremely impressed after the Metropolitan Fire Brigade around if I knew you guys were
the stupid passengers! RT @ with how the police conducted had given the all-clear. coming after me either
VictoriaPolice: Unlicensed teenage themselves through what has been I greatly admire the Victorian I am sure the old man
driver and passengers lucky to a stressful and tedious process. police for the work they do in general appreciates what you did so,
be alive.
and this specific incident proved on his behalf, thanks.
@carntheroos4eva Gotta feeling M. Campbell just how professional and capable
that the @VictoriaPolice are in the MELBOURNE the teams were on the night we John Copeland
chopper and are over #Ballarat.
relied on them for their assistance. KEW
@brozzzz Well done guys!
169 less risks on our roads > RT Helen Dorian The police involved in this incident
@VictoriaPolice 169 drink and GLEN IRIS were Sergeant Bruce Pingo, senior
drug drivers caught. constables Judy Blizzard and Kylie
Kellock, and constables Paul Clark,
Wayne Ball and Lisa Morrison.
Carla McIntyre
RANK Detective Senior Constable
Age 31
GRADUATED 30 November, 2001
Station Darebin Crime Investigation Unit
What does your job involve? I investigate any serious crime which
occurs in the Darebin police service area. Investigations can involve
serious assaults, armed robberies, aggravated burglaries, deceptions,
sex offences, suspicious fires and anything else which may require a
complex investigation.
My job can also include burglaries, theft of motor vehicles and theft
from motor vehicles.
Jobs can involve speaking to victims, witnesses, interviewing offenders
and preparing briefs of evidence for court. Some investigations require
following up on many avenues of inquiry, such as conducting door
knocks, liaising with the media, speaking to outside agencies and
working closely with other police.
Why did you decide to become a detective? I have always had
mentors and role models with a background in crime investigation. I
saw the work they did and found it varied. The variety, challenge and
also catching the crook attracted me to becoming a detective.
I enjoy the whole aspect of investigating a criminal offence from start
to finish. I also like having to think outside the square to solve some
crimes. Some investigations can take a long time to solve, so you need
to be motivated and driven.
People say you are good at: Solving a difficult investigation, Liaising with the families, friends and witnesses can be challenging as it
especially if it requires perseverance. requires compassion and empathy while balancing the need as a detective
WHAT PART OF BEING A DETECTIVE IS MOST CHALLENGING? to keep an open mind to try and establish what has actually happened.
Our work can be challenging when we attend things like the What would you like to do next? I am enjoying being a detective at
unexpected death of a child or a fatal workplace accident. the moment, but in the future I hope to move into a supervisor role and
These investigations can be difficult. eventually a management role at Victoria Police.
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Mapping
Murder
The Secrets of
Geographical
Profiling
Brief of evidence By David Canter
It may just be paper, but it is a vital part of any
police investigation. D avid Canter tells readers: Criminals reveal who they are and where
they live, not just from how they commit their crimes, but also from
the locations they choose.
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Silk & Miller war
murders Whether you believe it
all started when Alphonse
Gangitano, 40, was killed
S ergeant Gary Silk and Senior Constable
Rodney Miller (pictured below) were
working on an undercover operation when
in his laundry in 1998,
or about a year later when
serial killer Carl Williams
they pulled over to check a dark blue
Hyundai Excel on a cold August night
survived a shot to the
in Moorabbin in 1998.
stomach, the underworld
war intrigued Melbourne.
On approaching the car they were shot
by the occupants. Both police died.
Between 1998 and 2009,
Hoddle Street In the days that followed, police and
Williams gang and
what was known as the
massacre the public joined
together in their
Carlton Crew killed more
than 30 people, as both
grief and outrage of
sides fought to control
O n Sunday, 9 August, 1987, gun-wielding 19-year-old Julian Knight went on a
45-minute shooting spree on Hoddle Street, Clifton Hill, at about 9.30pm.
the murders.
The Lorimer
Taskforce was set
Melbournes drug trade.
The carnage stopped
During the massacre, perhaps Victorias worst, Knight killed seven people
when police arrested
and injured 19 others. He used three guns including a shot gun and rifle. up, resulting in
Bandali Debs and
Williams, who was
Members of the public and police bravely put their lives on the line, trying subsequently sentenced
to stop Knight. Jason Roberts being
arrested, charged
to 35 years jail for
By about 10.15pm, he had run out of ammunition and surrendered to police. and sentenced.
murdering rivals Lewis
Knight was charged with seven counts of murder, 40 counts of attempted and Jason Moran and
Debs will spend drug dealer Mark Mallia.
murder, seven counts of causing serious injury and 12 counts of causing the rest of his life
injury. In 1988, he was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum Williams was killed in
in jail and Roberts
non-parole period of 27 years. jail last year while
received a minimum
The carnage he caused that night still haunts those involved.
serving his sentence.
jail term of 35 years.
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www.police.vic.gov.au/policelife c POLICELIFE April 2011 07
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Ten nOTOriOuS VicTOriAn crimeS FrOm The PAST 25 YeArS
Serial killer
Peter Dupas
After a long history of committing violence and rape,
Peter Dupas eventually turned to murdering his victims.
He was convicted of the 1997 stabbing murder of
Margaret Maher and for killing psychotherapist Nicole
Patterson in 1999.
Dupas has also been convicted twice for the murder
of Mersina Halvagis, who was stabbed to death as she
visited her grandmothers grave at Fawkner Cemetery.
He has applied to appeal this conviction again.
Dupas murders were particularly gruesome.
Frankston serial
killer Paul Denyer
For about two months in 1993, Paul Denyer had families
in Frankston living in fear after he murdered three young
CBD gunman
Christopher Hudson
It was just an ordinary morning in
Melbournes CBD on 18 June, 2007, until
gunman Christopher Hudson opened fire.
On the corner of Flinders Lane and William
Street, Hudson, a bikie, was seen assaulting
his girlfriend Kaera Douglas.
City lawyer and father-of-three Brendan
Keilar and Dutch back-packer Paul de Ward
went to Ms Douglas aid.
Hudson callously shot at Mr Keilar, who
died at the scene, Mr de Ward, who was critically injured, and Ms Douglas.
The Queen Street He fired another five shots as the men lay wounded on the ground.
After fleeing the scene, Hudson evaded police for two days. He eventually
n u m b e r c r u n c h i n g
1967 13 11 3108
This is the year Ronald Ryan was Karmein Chan was 13 when she was abducted from John Xydias drugged, then videoed the rapes This is the number of
legally executed. He was the last her Templestowe home in 1991. Her body was found a or sexual assaults of 11 victims between 1991 robberies committed in
person hung in Victoria and Australia. year later in Edgars Creek, Thomastown. Police believe and 2006. Victoria during 2009-10.
Mr Cruel was responsible for her murder. However, he is This was a 6.9 per cent
yet to be identified. decrease from the
year before.
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continued page 14
.01
compromising a staff member or breaking into the store." member or breaking into the store.
The machines are then programmed
to record details of the debit card
SmartWater is another invention and the pin numbers, Det Insp
where synthetic DNA is used in Potter said.
convenience stores and service The machines then have
stations in the United Kingdom. It is to be retrieved or, these days
stored in a box above the entrance with Bluetooth technology,
Mo and, if the shop is robbed, the the information can simply be
b
M ile downloaded from a location
tec obile p tele
attendant can activate it and an
nearby. The stolen card number
h
and nolog hone ph invisible mist will be sprayed onto
o and pin numbers are then used
It i bad, S , can like a nes
y s, the offender.
s a u b
pt F us e l l It is a great way to catch to make transactions in Australia
can fa
or e not suct tha raser ed for offenders who have committed and overseas.
to d ven u rvive t drug said. good While computers, mobile
bec o bus p to 1 witho traffi robberies. The spray is invisible
phones and the Internet have all
sta ome t iness 0 mob ut oneckers to the human eye and cannot
lk o o i , played their part in shaping crime-
But ing. ols fo n. The le pho two be washed off for up to a week,
,
pho on th r bu y h nes committing and crime-solving, older
ll a
ying e av Supt Guerin said.
sou nes c e oth and lso The Homicide Squads Detective technologies such as fingerprinting
rce an b er h
of e eco and Inspector John Potter, who formerly and DNA are still vital.
vide me , m
nce an e obile worked at the Fraud Squad, said Fingerprints help Victoria
for x
pol cellen ATM and Eftpos skimming was on Police identify more than 5000
ice. t
the rise. people each year.
There are two types of skimming
that occur in Australia. The first is
the skimming of data in ATMs
where a device is inserted over
the ATM. When a card is put in
the machine, it records all the
information. A camera is also
often placed above the key pad to
capture a persons pin number.
The second type, which has
.01
.02
TION
LEAVING LIMITED EVIDENCE AND ONLY CHARRED REMAINS
BEHIND, ARSON AND EXPLOSIVES INCIDENTS CAN BE ONE OF
But generally, when its a
bushfire, you dont really have a
specifically targeted victim, so it
makes it hard to find a motive.
In February 2009, the Black
Saturday bushfires devastated
parts of Victoria and it was later
discovered that 50 per cent of
THE MOST DIFFICULT SCENES FOR POLICE TO INVESTIGATE. fires started on that day were
arson-related.
The members managed to Dr Bennett said there was a
come down to that area of origin very small success rate for
Putting
VICTIMS
POLICE WORK WITH VICTIMS OF CRIME TO
ENSURE THEY GET THE HELP THEY NEED,
when they need it.
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out&
ab ut
Ballarat
CIU
8.30am
Detectives in the CIU gather for the morning briefing.
Timeline
22 April 2011 POLICELIFE
Ballarats best
.01 Detective Leading Senior
Constable Paul Jolly reminisces
about one of Ballarats most
sordid crimes.
.02 The Ballarat CIU is a small,
close-knit team.
.02
Victoria Polices Crime Investigation Units (CIU) investigate and Ballarat may be classified as a
country CIU, but to assume the
solve serious crimes. Police Life spent a day at the Ballarat CIU detectives are not busy would
to see what an average day holds. be a serious lack in judgement.
The 12 detectives, including two
detective sergeants and a detective
senior sergeant, cover 4000 square
connecting the community A n 82-year-old man attempted
to murder his estranged wife
by slitting her throat, Detective
kilometres from Buninyong to
Avoca and service more than
editorial BLUE TAYLOR 100,000 people.
PHOTOGRAPHY ANDREW HENSHAW Leading Senior Constable Brett From serious family violence
Family violence incidents, an
Robinson announced to the incidents and late-night assaults
assault, theft of motor vehicle
Ballarat Crime Investigation to crimes like the case of a wealthy
and a strange spate of burglaries
Unit (CIU) members. family held hostage and terrorised
at hair salons are among the
Coffee in hand, some detectives in their home by armed bandits,
weekends crimes.
stood, while others sat on their Ballarat CIU investigate it all.
One of the family violence
desks or leaned against partitions, Detective Leading Senior
offenders is known to police.
all listening intently to the morning Constable Barry Hills is the
As his name is read the group
briefing. newest member of the crew.
bursts into chatter, discussing
Det Ldg Sen Const Robinson After working at the Organised
his sordid criminal history, nasty
can only skim through the gory Crime Squad and Transit CIU
temperament and their personal
details of the attempted murder at the start of his career, he
experiences with him.
before flicking to the next in a thick transferred to Ballarat in 2009
As the briefing wraps up the
pile of crime reports. As usual, it to be closer to home.
members are handed their cases
has been a busy weekend in the
and get straight to work, making
states third-largest city.
phone calls, reviewing evidence,
compiling briefs or throwing on
their coats before heading out to
interview suspects.
continued page 24
9.45am 10.00am
Detective Leading Senior Constable Brett Robinson heads to the Ballarat Video footage of a late-night assault could be the crucial piece of evidence
Magistrates Court for the remand hearing of an 82-year-old man who attempted required to make an arrest.
to murder his estranged wife.
12.15pm 1.00pm
Detectives have a strong relationship with the local Cash Converters who assist A quiet car park is a popular target for car thieves, but Ballarat CIUs proactive unit
police by reporting suspicious goods. is one step ahead. Detectives patrol the area to seek out suspicious behaviour and
ensure offenders are aware of the police presence.
.03
4.00pm 6.00pm
Detective Senior Constable Chris Hardiman views a crime trend report prepared Detective Senior Constable Tony Euvrard stores the property of a solved armed-
by the CIUs analyst, Leading Senior Constable Deborah Caldow. robbery case before heading home for the evening.
.01
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FACE of
CRIME
.01
No matter how short your hair, how The investigator can upload an
image of an offender onto iFace
long and thick your beard, or how in the hope that in a few years,
much weight you have lost, if you get someone will put a new image of
that person into the system and it We are getting a lot of hits
snapped committing a crime, it is likely will match, Sen Sgt Spry said. from images taken from cameras
that Victoria Polices iFace system will In early 2008, a man walked into installed in the city and footage
a Collingwood bank and told the from banks and rail networks,
recognise you. teller it was a hold-up. He claimed which have had good wins.
he had explosives in his backpack All police can use it to try to
and instructed the teller to fill his identify an unknown offender.
A SAFER VICTORIA bag with big notes.
The teller quickly activated the
The iFace projects Senior
Constable Bradi Owens said
EDITORIAL MARIA CARNOVALE lock-down system and the man iFace was also providing positive
The system provided police with walked out of the bank empty- outcomes for victims of crime.
the mans previous mug shots, his handed, filmed by CCTV cameras If I have a rape victim, I can
O ne of the best facial recognition
technologies available, iFace, is
being used by Victorian police to
real name and criminal history.
iFace began as a pilot in
2006. Since then, it has gained
on his way out.
With no other leads, police
placed the image from the CCTV
get her to come in and sit down
and give me a description of the
offender, she said.
identify offenders. momentum and is a widely used footage on iFace which returned The victim might tell me that
The iFace system allows police to function for police, with specially- an image of Stephen Whedon as a the offender was a Caucasian
compare photographs and closed made cameras installed at 10 of possible suspect. male, aged 30 to 40 and had
circuit television (CCTV) footage the busiest police stations across Further investigation revealed a tattoo on his back. I can put
against more than 1.3 million mug the state. Whedon was the offender and he those details in the system and it
shots and offender photos. The cameras allow police to was charged with attempted armed will bring up previous offenders
iFace project manager Senior take an offenders mug shot, robbery. He pleaded guilty and was matching that description.
Sergeant Kent Spry said the which is automatically uploaded sentenced to four months in prison. Thats a big improvement on
system allowed police to check the and checked against unidentified When it comes to identical what we were doing, which used
identity of people in police custody images taken from CCTV or added twins, the iFace system has also to be old photo books of random
and track down those wanted for by other police. had success. images from anywhere. It was like
offences in a matter of seconds. iFace is used for any sort of Sen Sgt Spry said police in finding a needle in a haystack.
Within hours of the system incident from thefts to serious Mildura arrested a man and bought Police are also using facial
being launched at police stations crimes, Sen Sgt Spry said. him into the police station late last recognition technology to create
across the state in December, It works by measuring parts year. However, when asked what photoboards. Once a time
Melbourne West police used it of the face. It starts with the eyes his name was, the man gave his consuming manual process,
to identify a man who had given to nose, the width, shape, then identical twin brothers name. investigators now simply place
them a false name. looks at skin texture and things Police instinct kicked in and a suspects image on iFace
He was a skinny bloke, he like high cheek bones. the members believed he was which automatically locates and
looked like he was a drug user Once an image of an giving a false name. populates the photoboard with
and had lost a heap of weight, unidentified person is placed They told the man his photo 11 other similar images in minutes.
Sen Sgt Spry said. in iFace, it provides a list of high would be taken and that facial Sen Sgt Spry said iFace was
They put him in front of the probability matches for police recognition technology would be creating a realm of possibilities
camera, took his picture and it to investigate further. used to check his identity. However, for investigators.
matched him to a photo that If no matches are found, the while having his photo taken, We look at iFace being a tool
was taken years ago when he image is stored indefinitely and the man attempted to distort his that can look across 800,000
was obese. matched against each new mug features by pulling faces. His ploy images, creating a smaller, more
shot until that person is identified. did not work and he was caught out manageable list of suspects in a
on the lie and sent back to prison matter of seconds.
for breaching his parole.
"It works by measuring parts of the face. It starts Not only did iFace pick a bloke
who gave a dodgy name, but it
with the eyes to nose, the width, shape, then looks picked him apart from his twin
brother, Sen Sgt Spry said.
at skin texture and things like high cheek bones." Theres nothing like it around
the world.
finger
on crime
Crime Stoppers started in
1976 in the United States.
Now, 35 years later, there
are more than 1200 Crime
Stoppers operations around
Without the watchful eyes of community The value of Crime Stoppers the world in more than 20
shows through time and time countries. Victoria was the
members and the inquisitive nature of again, he said. first Australian state to
neighbours, solving crime would be Its become the natural thing implement Crime Stoppers
for people. If theyve got information and it is now in operation in
much more difficult. about something, they will call all other states.
Crime Stoppers.
CONNECTING THE COMMUNITY Last year, Crime Stoppers
provided police with more than
When a young girl dubbed
Pumpkin was abandoned at
waiting for your information, Mr
18,500 information reports to Sprott said there are an endless
EDITORIAL MARIA CARNOVALE Southern Cross Railway Station
follow up. Information received number of people wanting to help.
in 2007, the public rallied to help.
from the public ranges from The Victoria Police Crime
We took hundreds of calls about