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2uorr2017 Linear vs progressive rate springs | Aulomatve Thinker - Discussing he finer points of automabiles Discussing hefner pons of automobiles (wie RSS (ntpsoeds feedburner com/sutomotivethink 200 Era, 24 ly 2097 - 1452 + Home (utp:Javomotveinker comands apeaderboardn + SiteMap (hip:/autometivinker comands iap-aaderboardD Search £ + Chassis (nipstsulomotivethinker comlstenonytvansmiasion + Engine Control hits: utomotivethinker comestegoryransmission) + Nows htovautomotvethinkercomieategoryransmision! “+ Racing itp: Jaulomotivethinkercomeategontansmision} + Ties hi: Joutometvethinker com Linear vs progressive rate springs utp:fastomotvethinkercom/autheradmin) John Milmont(hip:iAutometiveThsker.com) on Janyary 24.2014 — 3. Comments We are lucky to vein atime that has so many options avalablo for upgrading a suspension. There are so many companias thal make high performance components Ie colbver system, spings and shocks; and tey are made or prety much any applicaton is possible now hough, fora price) to simply 90 online and order ase of -vay adjustable dampers that are bull fr your car and ae roady to install when you gt them. Just few yoars ago, sucha shock (amper) was ont reserved for professional acing and had tobe custom valved and bul fr your appleation. But wth al these choles, you need o be ‘educated to make a decision ofnd what's bos for you. In this post, would Ike to focus on springs. There ate really two basle types a springs avaable on the market - ear spring (hich ar aso called variable rate sping). Each type has diferent purposes and behaves a certain way ‘Knowing how these springs behave can lb you make a beter decsion when Buying aftermarket springs for your car The names ofthese springs describe the spring rat, or how they resist the force being applied ? Linear rate springs: . Linear springs are the easiest to understand, When you thnk of spring, this is fypicaly what you are thinking fs the load on the spring increases, he spring compresses an amount decly proportional o that load. So, itt spring f rated a 100s pr inch, inwllcampress2 inches when 200Ibss applied. The follwing graph eserbes this relationship which Im sure you alrsady uncestand htpsautomotethinker comp. 7 content otonda/20 4/0 Mnesripa . In gonorl. the most performance oronod and springs = designed for acing ae gong o have near at. The * consistent nature of linear rata springs makes the car stable, optimizes vacon, and makes the car mare predictable forthe var. Progressive (variable rate springs): These springs are sometimes calle variable Rate springs. Tho purpase of nontnoar springs sto provide ‘more compliance in the suspension over rough surfaces. These springs are designed with ow ntl spring rats bu apy nerease asthe spring compressed. Ths thar sthal this allows the car to ravelsmocihly over ums and oad imperfections but sillbe tight enough to provide goed hanling and prevent the chassis from bottoming out. Because of hs, these sprngs are popular in attermarketlowenng springs and cover system intended far use on public roaes Variable rate springs are easy to spot because the springs are net symmetcal.Typleally, one end of the sping I wound tighter than the other end withthe more {ighty wound end berg the softer part ofthe spring. As the spring Is compressed, the soft cols onthe tightly wourd sce will claps, coming nt contact wih ‘2c other. When this happens, the rest ofthe spring tats to compress a he second higher rate. Sometimes wo Separate springs are used athe same tine hitpliautomotvethinker.convsuspensiontnet rs progressive-ate-springs! ue 2uorr2017 Linear vs progressive rate springs | Aulomatve Thinker - Discussing he finer points of automabiles with 2 special perch in-batwoon thom to ache possble. Some ofthe possible cues 04 0k tke the desired tfc. Dapending onthe design, many deren: curves a “This type of curve would be mos ikelyon a spring with two very forotratos the Uso of th sping «i Is not compressing unt the sof side has fly compressed, tp:tatomotvetinker comp: a ‘sentetlusloads/014)0 Progressive jo) ‘This woul be a truly progressive spring. The space between he cols would moe ikely be decreasing ba {or increesing dopencing on your point of view) a “ consistent ae. tp tatomotvetinker conan ‘Another variation could produce this curve. Ths ‘stats out nar and then smocthlytransions into ign rato hile progressive rate springs may not be common in road radng, in f'08e racing Ike rallying, they came int thet own no oad forms of racing where suspensions have longer rave they can be Wned to came into affect when the car lands attra jump ard stil malrain softness over the general stage. Progressive songs are not comin in tas race cars because these cars iypicaly operate on smth surfaces. On a car designed for smoath tama, these iypes a springs actualy decresse performance as . they induce some slop into the suspension. Furthermore, high fvel rad race cars donot have enough ‘ suspension travelto relly take advantage of progressive springs. Thee cars typically rely on bump stops Pease so sy owe wee Eatin actualy isa second spring wih an extromely high rata) © keep thomsehes from botloming out and to protect hele suspension components Progressive springs are popular wits lowering springs for street ute because most cas are street bound, High rate near springs produce a harsh ide which is undesirable for everyday driving. Everything in cars @ compromise, and you cant have the highest performance spings without saris someplace else = In hi case ride quality How about both near and progressive springs atthe same time? [nave also s2cn some spring kits that come wih tnear springs atthe front an progressive springs athe ear When tis s done, its mos kel to nt he possibilty of snappy oversteer an to delay i unt he car has fully transtoned int the comer ‘The downside to progressive springs. ‘There is a big downside wit progressive springs - and tatis that they are hard to damper effectively. Alinear spring willalvays have a consistent ate whichis ‘aty fo match toa damper, bu a progressive or duakate spring wil mast kel go outa he eMlocve damping range as crosses ito higher o owes rales Trying te damper variable rates i actually a problem on al crs because art-sway bars act as variable rate springs. The problem with way bars is that er rates are addad to th col spxngs only when the cars cometing, This is compounded futhorwtien viable rte springs are inodcad. Even though ths down side exists, dont be toto ata of geting a progressive sping systems if your carissrect bound. Just be sure todo the proper research on asorng kt to know what to expect afer tis installs. Personal, since Ihave a desicated fun car, have installed ear springs Because my car is not arven fr any purpose other than going fast, and! make do with a harsh ide on te strest. What you should know: ‘What you should know s that near springs are going to provide the maximum love of performance for acar on pavement alto cost ofa harsh ride, Progressive springs are an attempt to have a smooth rida and goad handing at tha sama tma but are nat optimal at both. I's upto you to decid which is gong tobe bes for (Da) sronne nat. Sjrte poner par ore (testo wabstesin com? i ttn tse casera nan nsec hitpliautomotvethinker.convsuspensiontnet 216 2uorr2017 Linear vs progressive rate springs | Aulomatve Thinker - Discussing he finer points of automabiles springs for racing into Posted in Suspension htpileutomotivethinkercomictegoryieuspension! | Tagged bet utomotivtnkercomaglbest apenas for. racing), dual rate springs (htp:lautomotiethinkercomiaaldvaatezornga) [near ve progressive eprings(nipi/aulomotivethnkercomfaalinese jogzessive-springs!, lowering springs (htp.autometivtinke.comfaglowerng-srings. progressive springs (hp:fevtomobvathinker comagorogressive: ‘3. Comments to “Linear vs progressive rate springs” ‘You can fotow al the reps to his entry tough the comments eed (htp:laviomotvehinkecomisuspansionnear.veprogretivesatexprngsfeed) 1 ip:esrerarydan om) Danie (htp:Jesreraryde.com December 1, 2014 -1257 pm | Permalink (ntp:automotvethinker com/surpension! ‘Great acl. Summarizes what can be 2 very technical ope nto an 688) to understand, easly cigstible read. Although Iwas set on linear springs, thnk will now compromise with progressive rate springs as in realty only about 45 days a year my car wil oe a road course and nota shopping center, + hits:/AtomotiveThinker.com) John Mllmont it:/AvtometiveThinke com ‘acembar 1.2014 ~ 2:02 pm | Permalink (tp /atomotvethinker comuspensionlinea.vsprogrssive-ate-spingsttconment 2552 | on’ think many people pick and choose the spring rates they are going to run on thelr ear. Bacause ofthis, they are mostly atthe morc of aftermarket spsng kis tat come from companies lke HAR or Each. Most ofthese ae designed fr te treet, and even with linear springs, they usually are not hat rough. you do alto sporty diving, even onthe street, ! would go wit near ates. Jus because its near doasn' mean its rack only, and many sports cars coma rom the factory wit near springs. 2 {ittpunew eagleatoboro comiauto rapale and service ml) Deanna R. Jones (ht:swrew.eaglesutoboro.comaulo repair and tarvice Ml) March 18.2015 - 6:06 pm | Permalink ip lautometstinkon.com/suspanslonlinarys poarassve ste prngs/tcommont 28570) Thanks for the information! ve thought about geting progressive springs to replace te sorings in my car. nt know that tey are dficuk to damper efecively I'seoms lke I would be better of instaing linear springs since theyre a lot ease to damper. Leave a Reply (Advertisements will NOT be approved) Name (required) Em (equied) webste ost Comment «Paul Walker Accident Explained pJauomotvlhinkrcomewsinaubanlkersccldent-exosined) Dealing with tuners (it:utomotivethokercomanainesiealingithtuners Post Views Straight cut gears ve heli + Rotors: Blank vs Gross Dried vs Slotted and Warping it:automettvth ak + Stop and weight! 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