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November 4, 2013 | 3,702 Views |

joan mas
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Pricing Date

Pricing conditions are calculated based on a pricing date. In this document we are
going to have a look at the different places where we can influence pricing date

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proposal and see how system gets and applies it according to certain priorities.

In customizing

There are two places where we can customize pricing date proposal that will be
used in sales documents.

When we define a sales order type, transaction code VOV8, we have field
Proposal for pricing date, TVAK-PRDATV, with the following values available:

Proposal based on todays date

A Proposal based on requested delivery date (header)

B Proposal based on valid-from date (header)

C Proposal based on contract start (header/item)

When creating a sales document, proposed pricing date is shown in overview


screen.

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Another place where date proposal can be set is at price condition. When we
define a price condition in customizing, we have field
Pricing date, T685A-KPRDT, with the following entries available:

Standard (KOMK-PRSDT; tax and rebate KOMK-FBUDA)

A Date of services rendered (KOMK-FBUDA)

B Price date (KOMK-PRSDT)

C Billing date (KOMK-FKDAT)

D Creation date (KOMK-ERDAT)

E Order date (KOMK-AUDAT)

Considerations:

When using A. This is the Requested Delivery Date from overview sales
document not from line item. If we change this date in the sales document
overview, we have to run a new pricing for the document or a new pricing at item
level to get the price condition defined with price date proposal A, updated as per
new requested delivery date. Also, we have to consider that updating this date will
update billing date.

When using C. Similarly to when using A, if we change billing date at header level,
we need to run a new pricing for the document or a new pricing at item level to get
the price condition defined with price date proposal C, updated as per new billing
date.

Date pricing proposal at condition level is applied only to price conditions that
have defined a date pricing proposal, rest of price conditions will use pricing date
defined at sales document header level as weve seen previously.

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That means that we can have different pricing dates in our document. Let see an
example, in the sales order, where Ive set pricing date
proposal for price condition PR00 to C (billing date) and left blank pricing proposal
in document type (price date).

Weve maintained prices

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When creating sales order, on 24.10, I set manually billing date at header level to
5.11 (to ensure system will pick up 11 EUR price for the example)

We check price conditions after entering material and quantity, for PR00 and
discount condition ZZK7 (for ZZK7 condition, no date pricing proposal is set,
T685A-KPRDT is blank, that is, price date)

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User exit

When the requirements cant be achieved with standard solution explained above,
we can use following user exits:

User exit MV45AFZZ, form USEREXIT_MOVE_FIELD_TO_VBKD to update field


VBKD-PRSDT (pricing date).

User exit RV60AFZZ, form USEREXIT_PRICING_PREPARE_TKOMK to update


field TKOMK-PRSDT (pricing date).

Manually

We can set manually pricing date at different documents and processes.

In sales documents we can set manually billing date at header level (applicable to
the whole document) and at item level (applicable to a line item).

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When working with deliveries, at the time of posting goods issue for a delivery
(PGI), we can set a PGI date that will then be taken as billing date when billing.
For example with transaction VL06G, when clicking on Post Goods Issue button, a
pop up is displayed

This billing date will be used as pricing date.

For this, we need also to update pricing type (set to B or C), in copy control, at
item level, in transaction VTFL. When billing, a new pricing will be run.

We can also set a pricing date when billing, in transaction VF01 or VF04 (tab
Default data), field pricing date. As a result, system will run al new pricing for the

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documents that will be billed using this pricing date (in transaction VTFL, copy
control, at item level, pricing type should be set to B or C).

Cooking it all together

Lets see what happens when we put all together in different combinations and the
results obtained.

This table shows from a sales document, what pricing dates are taken when
billing. See below how to read it.

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Lets see how to read above table for example in row number 6:

We have condition pricing date proposal in PR00 condition set as A (date of


service rendered or requested delivery date), sales order type used has been
defined in customizing with todays pricing date proposal (left blank). We create
our sales order (VA01) on 25.10 and system calculates required delivery date on
5.11. As a result, PR00 pricing date is 5.11 and ZZF7 (without pricing date
proposal) condition is 25.10.

While Posting goods issue with VL06G, we set manually actual PGI date to 27.10.

We run VF04 and set as default billing date 1.11 and when we billing, system runs
a new pricing (defined in copy control, Delivery to
Invoice for line item TAN value B) getting the following results: PR00 billing date is
27.10 (system checks in custo actual value in field price date proposal for
conditions, for PR00, value A, which is Actual PGI date) and ZZF7 billing date is
1.11 (ZZF7 condition price date proposal is blank).

In the example in row number 7, price date condition for PR00 is left blank. When
running a new pricing in billing, system then picks as pricing date that set as
default in VF04 (1.11).

Examples from row number 17 to 24 post goods issue is done by VL03N instead
of VL06G (here documents created on 26.10 instead of 25.10).

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In examples from row number 28 to 35, there are no deliveries involved, billing
sales documents directly.

In short, when creating a sales document, system after getting pricing date
proposal from sales order type, will proceed to get pricing dates for pricing
conditions on the document by this priority:

1-Pricing date proposal for price condition defined in customizing

2-Pricing date for sales order line item

3-Pricing date for sales order header

When creating a billing document:

If price redetermination is set in copy control at item level (values B, C):

1-Pricing date proposal for price condition defined in customizing

2-Pricing date set in VF04-VF01

3-Pricing date from actual PGI

4-Pricing date from sales order

If no price redetermination is set in copy control at item level, Prices come from
sales document.

Regards,

JM

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Sanjay Singh

November 5, 2013 at 5:25 am

Thanks Joan

it is very helpful to understand the pricing date usage.

Sanjay

joan mas Post author

November 5, 2013 at 6:43 am

Thanks Sanjay.

Regards,

JM

Shiva Vasireddy

November 5, 2013 at 6:02 am

Hi,

you made the pricing date Control simple

Thanks for sharing.

joan mas Post author

November 5, 2013 at 6:43 am

Thanks Siva,

Regards,

JM

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Srinu S

November 5, 2013 at 6:08 am

Hi Joan,

Thanks for sharing helpful document.Keep sharing

Srinu.

joan mas Post author

November 5, 2013 at 6:44 am

Thanks Srinu,

Regards,

JM

' MoazzaM '

November 5, 2013 at 7:20 am

Good document and nicely presetn. I would like to add one thing that from controlling
point of view I think pricing date field must be in display mode in sale order so that no
user can change it to any previous date and make the transaction on less low price. In
most of the companies I have seen this field in display in sale order. It depends on
clients requirement but it is good if you make this grey after discussing with clients.

Thank$

joan mas Post author

November 5, 2013 at 12:13 pm

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Thanks MoazzaM.

Regards,

JM

Typewriter TW

November 8, 2013 at 3:54 am

MoazzaM,

Thanks for sharing your observation based on real-time experiences!

1. Is pricing date in uneditable mode in VF01 / VF04 also? So that user can
not change it during the billing process.

2. How often do you see that the users have the authorization and need to
change the prices, discounts etc. in an order or a billing, in Tab Conditions?

Please give some business examples.

' MoazzaM '

November 8, 2013 at 4:47 am

Hi TW

We never use VF04. We create invoice with VF01 always and I


didnt face any issue with pricing date in invoice or may be
users have never tried to play with that

In my past experience users were not allowed to change any


price or discount etc except one manual discount and for that
we also has restrictions within min max limit.

Pricing date should not be changed by end users. This can


leave a blank area and users can change it to any older price
date.

Thank$

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Typewriter TW

November 8, 2013 at 5:44 am

MoazzaM,

Users gave manual discounts, were these


condition types marked as manual in the pricing
procedure(s)?

When a condition type is marked as manual in the


pricing procedure, then in sales order, Tab
Conditions, the condition type does not show. The
user has to give the manual condition type and
its value.

Did it happen that the users forgot to give manual


discounts?

How did users make sure to give manual


discounts?

Thank you!

' MoazzaM '

November 8, 2013 at 6:03 am

Yes it was a manual condition in


V/08. User entered condition and its
value manually and they never forgot
it but if they did then they had to post
credit note w.r.t that invoice to adjust
discounts.

Thank$

Typewriter TW

November 8, 2013 at 6:14 am

MoazzaM,

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This is more an operational


question how did they remind
themselves that for a particular order
type (particular customer.particular
material) a manual condition type
has to be inputted in the sales order?

(As you have been to different client


sites)

' MoazzaM '

November 8, 2013 at 6:28 am

We had sales policy for every month.


On start of every month sales team
prepared a sales policy in which they
declare discounts on different
products based on different
techniques. For instance if they
declare if a customer buys 10
materials of TV and fulfill all
requirements (advance cash, within
credit limit, any bundle or pairing
goods etc) then he will get some
discount on invoice. User will then
check all the requirements and enter
manual condition in discount.

They also had order to order deals


with customers. If price of a material
is 100 and minimum price is 90 then
sales manager have margin of 10
rupees and he agreed to invoice this
material to some customer on 90 to
other on 95 and so on. So this
discount was also entered in order
manually.

They were following manual checks


instead of automatic credit checks
because of their requirements. For
advance cash either cash posting

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has been already done or at least a


bank draft is attached in order not.
This is just one example of their
requirement which we were not able
to control through standard credit
check.

Thank$

Sukant Chakraborthy

November 5, 2013 at 8:47 am

Thanks for sharing useful document with good presentation.

Thanks

Sukant

joan mas Post author

November 5, 2013 at 12:13 pm

Thanks Sukant.

Regards,

JM

Typewriter TW

November 8, 2013 at 6:11 am

JM,

Very nice!

I enjoyed reading this document. Like MozzaM commented the document is well
structured and nicely presented, especially Cooking it all together and In short

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One question

We run VF04 and set as default billing date 1.11 and when we billing, system runs a
new pricing (defined in copy control, Delivery to
Invoice for line item TAN value B) getting the following results: PR00 billing date is
27.10 (system checks in custo actual value in field price date proposal for conditions,
for PR00, value A, which is Actual PGI date) and ZZF7 billing date is 1.11 (ZZF7
condition price date proposal is blank).

In the billing document, condition type ZZF7 would have what pricing date?

For ZZF7, the billing date is 1-Nov but why would this be the pricing date too?

Thank you!

joan mas Post author

November 8, 2013 at 12:02 pm

Hi TM,

thanks for your comments.

In the billing document, condition ZZF7 would have pricing date 1.11 as a result
of running a new pricing according to copy control (B), having blank in pricing
condition in custo (pricing date) and setting this pricing date in VF04 (1.11)

Regards,

JM

Madhu Vadlamani

November 8, 2013 at 12:06 pm

Good one.

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joan mas Post author

November 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm

Thanks Madhu,

Regards,

JM

Jack Wu

November 21, 2013 at 7:44 am

It is nice for me.

Thanks.

joan mas Post author

November 21, 2013 at 12:31 pm

Thanks Jack,

Regards,

Joan

Karuna Ravuri

November 22, 2013 at 12:48 pm

Good document Joan

joan mas Post author

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November 22, 2013 at 4:44 pm

Thanks Karuna for your comments.

Regards,

JM

Gabriel Andrade

May 15, 2014 at 12:18 pm

Very nice article!! Was very helpful!!

joan mas Post author

May 16, 2014 at 6:04 am

Thanks Gabriel for your comments.

If interested, you can find more of my documents in SAP ERP Sales and
Distribution and SAP GUI spaces.

Regards,

JM

RAUL VIZCAINO

March 18, 2015 at 2:43 pm

Thanks for sharing!

Jewel Bandiola

May 11, 2015 at 3:03 pm


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Thanks for sharing. This is a very helpful document.

Regards,

Jewel.

joan mas Post author

May 11, 2015 at 5:39 pm

Thanks Jewel for your comments

Regards,

JM

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