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STD 454/21/7

MINUTES OF MEETING (3/2004)


TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON METALS AND ORES

Meeting : 3/2004
Date : 10/08/2004
Time : 9.30 am
Venue : Bilik Majlis, Tingkat 1, Bangunan 1, SIRM Berhad, Shah Alam

Present:

1. Tn Hj Mohd Ariff Omar (Chairman) Jabatan Mineral dan Geosains


2. Ms Siti Faizah Othman SIRIM Berhad
3. Mr Muzayin Alimon Pusat Penyelidikan Mineral
4. Prof Madya Dr Luay Bakir Hussain USM
5. Dr Ahmad Badri Ismail USM
6. Prof Madya Dr Wan Fuad Wan Hassan UKM
7. Pn Leong Chow Yoot Jabatan Kimia Malaysia
8. Mr Kong Kean Beng Nihon Superior (M) Sdn Bhd
9. Pn Rohaidah Ibrahim SQAS International
10. En Abdul Aziz Haron SQAS International

Absent with apology:

1. Mr Phavandeep Singh Kota Minerals & Chemicals


(Kemaman Supply Base)
2. Mr Lim Ngang Chuang Multi Minerals Laboratory Services
3. Mr Jamaluddin Hj Mustaffa Perwaja Steel Sdn Bhd

1. Chairman’s opening remarks

The chairman welcomed all members to the third meeting of the year.

2. Adoption of agenda

The proposed agenda was accepted without amendments. Agenda of meeting was as
follows:

1. Chairman’s opening remark


2. Adoption of agenda
3. Minutes 2/04 confirmation
4. Matters arising
5. Deliberation of MS 870 Soft solder and relevant ISO
6. Other matters
7. Adjournment of meeting

3. Confirmation of minutes (2/2004)


The minutes of the last meeting (2/2004) were noted and approved as true record of
the meeting with minor amendments on the numbering.
Proposer: Mr Muzayin Alimon
Seconder: Prof Madya Dr Wan Fuad Wan Hassan

4. Matters arising

4.1 Item 4.1 Representatives from electronic manufacturers

Prof Madya Dr Luay expressed that USM has a compiled list of the manufacturers. Dr
Luay will email to secretary this list for onward actions.
(Action: Prof Madya Dr Luay)

4.2 Item 5.2 MS 866 – Specification for barytes used in oil-well


drilling & ISO 13500: 1998

Secretary reported that ‘ISO 13500: 1998 Petroleum and natural gas industries –
Drilling fluids materials – Specifications and tests’ has been forwarded to ISC H on
Petroleum and Gas. Member will be informed of the ISC H decision as soon as they
had their next meeting, which is scheduled on late August/ early September.
(Action: Secretary)

4.3 Item 5.3 MS and ISO standards on copper

Members agreed during previous meeting that MS 886 should be withdrawn and
replace by ISO 10258, ISO 10469, ISO 9599 and ISO 10378. Members also agreed
since there is no correspondence ISO to MS 877, it should be reconfirm as the
contents are still current.

MS 886 – Methods for the JIS M 8121: 1997 ISO 10258, ISO 10469 and
determination of moisture ISO 9599
content and chemical
analysis of copper ores JIS M 8111: 1998 ISO 10378
and concentrates
MS 877 – Method of JIS M 8101: 1988 -not available-
sampling copper ores and
concentrates

Secretary circulated all four ISO stds to seek consensus for Public Comment
September. Members are to get back to secretary by 24 th of August should there be
any comments. If there is no objection from members, all four will be released for
September Public Comment as total adoption of the ISO standards.
(Action: All members)

4.4 Item 5.4 JIS H 0321 – General rules for inspection of non-ferrous
metal materials

Secretary reported that the proposal to deliberate on the above has been accepted
during the last ISC B meeting. This item will be included in the TC work programme
and deliberated later.

(KIV)

5. Deliberation on Malaysian Standards


5.1Deliberation on MS on soft solder and relevant ISO

5.1.1 Deliberation on MS 870

Dr Ahmad Badri reported to the meeting on the values of SG for the Tin Silver and
Tin-Copper alloys.
(NOTED)

Tn Hj Jamaluddin was to assist on inserting the nomenclature of ISO 9453 accordingly


into Table 1 and had submitted the amended table to secretary for onwards actions.
(NOTED)

The amended Table 1 was circulated to members for further discussion and members
agreed that there should be more lead free solder included. Therefore it was agreed
that a separate Table 2 will be drafted to specifically addressed lead free solders.
Prof Madya Dr Luay and Dr Badri had agreed to assist on drafting Table 2 and will
submit to secretary for onward actions by next meeting.
(Action: Prof. Madya Dr Luay and Dr Ahmad Badri)

Members also deliberate on MS 870 thoroughly. Secretary is to include the agreed


changes accordingly. The draft will be final check in the next meeting.

(Action: Secretary)
5.1.2 Deliberation on relevant ISO stds on solder

Members agreed during the previous meeting for ISO 1224-1 and ISO1224-2 to be
adopted.

Std number Title


1 ISO 1224-1: 1997 Soft wire, solid and flux cored – Part 1: Classification and
performance requirements
2 ISO 1224-2: 1997 Flux cored solder wire– Part 2: Determination of flux content

3 ISO 1224-3: 2003 Solder wire, solid and flux cored – Specifications and test
methods – Part 3: Wetting balance test method for flux cored
solder wire efficacy
4 ISO 9454-1 Soft soldering fluxes – Classification and requirements – Part
1:Classification, labelling and packaging

Secretary circulated both ISO 1224-3 and ISO 9454-1 for members to go through.
Members agreed that all 4 would be deliberated further in the next meeting.
(NOTED)

The meeting also agreed for the new proposals for all four for total adoption, to be
submitted for ISC B acceptance and hence will be included in the TC work
programme.
(Action: Secretary)
6 Adjournment of meeting

The chairman thanked all members for being present for the day. There being no
other matter to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 12.30 noon. Next meeting was
set tentatively on 21 of September 2004.

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