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COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
WASHINGTON, D.C.
INTERVIEW OF: LISA PAGE - DAY 2
Monday, July 16, 2018
Washington, D.C.
The above matter was held in Room 2141, Rayburn House Office
Building, commencing at 11:02 a.m.
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Mr. Baker. Okay. The time is 1 minute past 11:0 a.m. on
July 16th, continuing from Friday's session of the transcribed
interview of former FBI attorney Lisa Page.
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BY MR. BAKER:
Q Good morning, Ms. Page, and thank you for agreeing to come
back for a second session of questioning. A lot of ground was covered
on Friday, so I want to clean up a couple of areas that I had questions
on. So I might jump around a little bit. I'm going to try not to be
repetitive from what you've already answered.
But I wanted to clarify, at a very basic level, sometimes in the
media's reporting you've been referred to as an FBI agent. In the
truest sense of the word, as an agent relates to a principal, you are
an agent of the government. But in FBI parlance, is it correct to say
that you're not an 1811 series investigator special agent?
A I am not.
Q You are, in fact, an attorney and were assigned to the General
Counsel's Office.
A That's correct.
Q Okay.
You started to get into a little bit on Friday and you articulated
the best you could that -- I think you opened the door as to the
different types of investigations or how an investigation is opened.
It's my understanding there's three basic types of investigations:
There's an assessment. Then it moves to predicated investigations,
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where you then have preliminary investigation and you have a full
investigation. Is that correct?
A That's correct.
Q And my understanding of the different types of
investigations is, on one end of the spectrum, it's how that case is
opened, how maybe credible the information is or how vague the
information is. And then on the other end of the spectrum, it's what
type of investigative techniques can be employed in that type of
investigation. And --
A I wouldn't agree with respect to the substance of the
information. It's not whether it's vague or credible or not. It's
really an assessment -~ and, again, I don't have the standards in front
of me, but each level of, sort of, investigative permission affords
different levels of tools available.
And so, to the extent you have more information or to the extent
the information comes from a particularly credible source, it means
that you can open a full investigation and -- but really
the distinctions between -- certainly between a preliminary
investigation and a full are a little bit of dancing on the head of
apin. Imean, these are very, sort of, nuanced, subtle. Any credible
allegation is sufficient for the FBI to open an investigation and take
action for -- to sort of generalize broadly.
Q But the assessment would be kind of the lower, a very
initial -- the information maybe not even relating to a violation of
criminal law or national security; it could be proactively -- to
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