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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT


WESTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

-vs- 09-CR-121S

SHANE BUCZEK,

Defendant.
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Proceedings held before the

Honorable William M. Skretny, Part IV,

U.S. Courthouse, 68 Court Street,

Buffalo, New York on March 8, 2010.

APPEARANCES:

MARY CATHERINE BAUMGARTEN,


Assistant United States Attorney,
Appearing for the United States.

SHANE BUCZEK,
Appearing Pro Se.

BRIAN COMERFORD,
Assistant Federal Public Defender,
Appearing as Standby Counsel for Defendant.

Michelle L. McLaughlin, RPR,


Official Reporter,
U.S.D.C. W.D.N.Y.
(716)332-3560
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1 I N D E X

2 WITNESS PAGE

3 OPENING STATEMENT BY MS. BAUMGARTEN 549

4 SCOTT KAWSKI
Direct Examination by Ms. Baumgarten 552
5 Cross-Examination by Mr. Buczek 562
Redirect Examination by Ms. Baumgarten 576
6 Recross-Examination by Mr. Buczek 577

7 SUMMATIONS
Ms. Baumgarten 582
8 Mr. Buczek 583

9 CHARGE TO THE JURY 584

10 VERDICT ON COUNT II 595

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13 GOVERNMENT EXHIBITS EVD.

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37 559
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1 (Jury not present in the courtroom.)

2 THE COURT: Lets find out. I don't think

3 there's anything that's at issue. Let's call the

4 case. As soon as the jury is here, we will get

5 started.

6 THE CLERK: Criminal case 09-121S, United

7 States of America versus Shane Buczek.

8 THE COURT: Government attorneys are here.

9 Miss Baumgarten, good morning.

10 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Good morning, Judge.

11 THE COURT: Mr. Bruce.

12 MR. BRUCE: Morning, Judge.

13 THE COURT: Mr. Comerford, Mr. Buczek.

14 MR. BUCZEK: Morning, Judge.

15 THE COURT: We should get started as

16 quickly as possible in this case. If you haven't

17 received it yet, I have the proposed charge for you

18 to look at. It's very basic. It addresses

19 Count II specifically. It also references the fact

20 that the full charge that I gave on Friday is

21 incorporated into today's charge. There is the

22 proposed jury verdict form. And I think both sides

23 have discussed that at least a little bit with

24 Mr. Moeller. And I think it should be in good

25 stead, good form. And I think we're ready to


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1 begin. There will be, if you choose, opening

2 statements. You have one witness?

3 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes.

4 THE COURT: That's Mr. Kawski?

5 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes.

6 THE COURT: Okay. And there's an

7 opportunity to cross-examine. And if there's any

8 defense case, you let me know.

9 MR. BUCZEK: Yeah, Judge. I just want to

10 add some exhibits into the evidence file. An

11 exhibit.

12 THE COURT: All right. What's the

13 exhibit?

14 MR. BUCZEK: The exhibit is

15 August 20th, 2009, transcript from Judge Schroeder.

16 And also another exhibit is an authentication that

17 was authenticated without certified -- I got it

18 authenticated by the DOS and DOJ, and

19 authentication number 0903321-1, and signed by

20 Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder, and that document

21 is pertaining to case number 08-CR-054 and filed on

22 January 9th, 2009.

23 THE COURT: How is that relevant,

24 Mr. Buczek?

25 MR. BUCZEK: It's a notice of rescission


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1 of signature on the conditions based on my findings

2 that I filed, which was never responded to. Can I

3 present that to you?

4 THE COURT: No. I don't think so, not

5 yet.

6 MS. BAUMGARTEN: The government's going to

7 object. First of all, we had not seen that.

8 Second of all, I anticipate that there will be

9 testimony from Mr. Kawski with respect to the

10 process. The fact that the defendant -- I guess

11 it's relevance, Judge.

12 MR. BUCZEK: It's original, Judge.

13 THE COURT: All right. It may be. At

14 this point in time I'm going to deny the request.

15 You made your record. You've identified it. It

16 preserves your right to argue relevancy I guess.

17 As far as the transcript is concerned, you can

18 use the transcript for impeachment purposes, but I

19 suppose if Mr. Kawski -- if there's any testimony

20 there -- has he testified before? And does that

21 relate to Mr. Kawski's testimony?

22 MR. BUCZEK: He was an eyewitness to

23 the -- to this hearing. I believe his name is on

24 here. Scott Kawski, probation office, also present

25 in the room at 1:47 p.m., August 20th, 2009. And I


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1 got it listed down as Exhibit B. I was going to

2 use this as Exhibit A.

3 MR. BRUCE: Judge, I am familiar with the

4 transcript. In the transcript Judge Schroeder, for

5 lack of a better term, criticized me.

6 THE COURT: I'm aware of that.

7 MR. BRUCE: That's the transcript he wants

8 to use.

9 THE COURT: Does it relate specifically to

10 the testimony of Kawski?

11 MR. BRUCE: No, your Honor.

12 MS. BAUMGARTEN: The objection would be

13 relevance then, your Honor, with respect to the

14 findings this Court -- the jury has to make in this

15 court now concerning counsel.

16 MR. BUCZEK: All I was trying to do is

17 show motive behind this case and other cases, the

18 motive behind it, because my findings is that there

19 is no, you know -- well, I don't want to repeat

20 myself over and over and over again. There is

21 really no valid claim in front of the jury to even

22 make a verdict on. And basically it gets back to

23 the whole -- it's a fruit from the poisonous tree

24 doctrine, and that's all I'm trying to get across.

25 THE COURT: I think I'll acknowledge you


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1 making the record on that point. I'm familiar with

2 the transcript. I know what you're attempting to

3 do with it. I will sustain the government's

4 objection to it, but your record is preserved by

5 identification.

6 MR. BUCZEK: One more thing, on page 30,

7 Judge Schroeder, on line 21 it says that

8 "Mr. Buczek is not about to bring down the

9 government of the United States, that's my

10 finding." I got it right here.

11 THE COURT: And again, that will be

12 referenced in the record, but it's not admissible

13 for purposes of --

14 MR. BUCZEK: Okay. Thank you.

15 THE COURT: -- this part of the case.

16 Okay.

17 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you.

18 THE COURT: Okay. Let's just find out if

19 the jury is available. As soon as we're ready,

20 we're going to bring them right in.

21 THE CLERK: We're missing three. The

22 alternate is here. She has been separated from the

23 regular jury. We're missing three, and Gerry is

24 going to let me know as soon as they're all here.

25 THE COURT: As soon as they're ready,


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1 we'll come and we'll get started. You want to set

2 up the opening statement -- if you're going to use

3 the podium.

4 MS. BAUMGARTEN: I'm going to make it very

5 brief. If the Court wishes there to be a podium,

6 that's fine. But it will be very brief.

7 THE COURT: I don't think we need it then.

8 Okay. As soon as the jury is here we'll get

9 started. Thank you.

10 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Thank you.

11 (Short recess was taken.)

12 (Jury seated.)

13 THE COURT: Good morning. Please have a

14 seat. Good morning. It's good to see you bright

15 and early on a Friday (sic). I arranged the

16 weather just for you. We are now resumed in the

17 case, once again, United States versus Shane

18 Buczek. And the attorneys are present, and, of

19 course, Mr. Buczek is here. This is your return, I

20 guess, first time since Friday when you rendered as

21 to Count I the guilty verdict in that case. And I

22 again commend you and thank you for your commitment

23 to this case and to your duty.

24 We left it on Friday with my telling you that I

25 was unable up to that point in time to relate to


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1 you that you would have to come back for another

2 task, and I'll explain to you why that is and

3 what's going to transpire this morning. You will

4 be asked to render another verdict, and the

5 verdict, likewise, will have to be a unanimous

6 verdict. The instructions that I gave you fully

7 apply to the process that you will be involved in,

8 and there will be a brief opening statement by the

9 attorneys, if they choose to do that, and there can

10 be a brief closing argument as well.

11 The case is one that involves a second count as

12 part of the original indictment, which was what we

13 call bifurcated. And Count II of the indictment

14 reads as follows, just so you know. It charges

15 that defendant Shane C. Buczek was on release

16 pursuant to an order dated March 13th, 2008, from

17 the United States District Court for the Western

18 District of New York, case number 08-criminal-54,

19 which order notified said defendant of the

20 potential affect of committing an offense while on

21 pretrial release.

22 From on or about September 18th, 2008, to on or

23 about January 16th, 2009, in the Western District

24 of New York, and elsewhere, the defendant Shane C.

25 Buczek, did commit the offense of bank fraud in the


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1 manner set forth in Count I of this indictment in

2 violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section

3 1344. So this is all in violation of Title 18,

4 Section 3147(1). Remember that that second count

5 of the indictment that he was on release when the

6 bank fraud was committed, in essence, is -- that

7 charge is not evidence, just as I instructed you

8 with respect to Count I. That indictment charge

9 was not evidence. It's simply a charge that puts

10 the defendant on notice of the crime that he was

11 accused of committing.

12 So, your task is to resolve Count II of the

13 indictment. And in that regard, the government

14 will make an opening statement. There will be one

15 witness in this particular case. You will judge

16 credibility as you have, and it's with respect to

17 establishing, if it can, beyond a reasonable doubt,

18 the fact of the commission of a crime while the

19 defendant was on release for another, and that is

20 in essence the crime.

21 So, we will have the opening statements. That

22 is not evidence. Keep in mind the same rules

23 apply. You will hear from Miss Baumgarten, the

24 prosecutor in this case. The one witness I believe

25 will be a probation officer from the United States


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1 Probation Office. The testimony should be very

2 short. The openings will be very short, and then

3 once that is complete I have a very brief charge

4 incorporating everything we talked about. I'm not

5 going to reinstruct you.

6 You have with you alternate number one,

7 Miss Alexander, she's back. You probably thought

8 you wouldn't get to see her again, but we brought

9 her back on popular demand.

10 This is a serious matter as you know, and I

11 think once you hear the opening statements -- it's

12 a bird's eye view -- it's simply to tell you a

13 little bit more than what I told you. What I say,

14 what the attorneys say is not evidence. What the

15 witness will tell you is evidence, then you go out

16 and do your deliberations, and we'll have you back

17 here and that will conclude your jury service.

18 We thank you again. Sorry we had to bring you

19 back today, but whenever there is important

20 business to both sides, we're all a little bit

21 inconvenienced, but please with an open mind

22 approach your very important duty in this case.

23 Miss Baumgarten, if you will.

24 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Good morning, ladies and

25 gentlemen of the jury. A very little more than


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1 what the Judge mentioned to you. The government

2 anticipates we will call one witness, a United

3 States probation officer, Scott Kawski. We

4 anticipate the testimony of Probation Officer

5 Kawski to establish not only that the defendant was

6 subject to conditions of release based on his

7 release for another pending criminal matter, but

8 also in particular and most importantly that one of

9 those conditions of release identified the

10 ramifications, the consequences the defendant would

11 face in the event that he committed a state, local,

12 or federal offense.

13 We also anticipate eliciting testimony from

14 Probation Officer Kawski that not only was the

15 defendant released on that condition among a number

16 of other conditions, but that the defendant

17 remained under those conditions of release during

18 the course -- the time frame that the jury's

19 previously considered with respect to the Count I

20 of the indictment. That time frame, as the jury

21 may recall, is September 18, 2008, up to and

22 including January 16th, 2009. So we will hear from

23 Probation Officer Kawski. Thank you.

24 THE COURT: Okay, Miss Baumgarten, thank

25 you. Is there anything that you want to be heard


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1 on at this point by way of an opening statement,

2 Mr. Buczek?

3 MR. BUCZEK: Sure, Judge.

4 THE COURT: Or do you want until after

5 Mr. Kawski testifies?

6 MR. BUCZEK: Sure. Okay.

7 THE COURT: All right. And then you can

8 talk to Mr. Comerford a little bit in terms of what

9 you might want to say. Fair enough?

10 MR. BUCZEK: Yeah.

11 THE COURT: Okay. Want to call your first

12 witness, please?

13 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, Probation Officer

14 Kawski please.

15 THE COURT: Everybody have an okay weekend

16 I hope? Yes? Okay. Thank you.

17 S C O T T K A W A S K I, having been duly sworn as

18 a witness, testified as follows:

19 THE COURT: Morning.

20 THE WITNESS: Morning.

21 THE COURT: Mr. Witness, I'm going to ask

22 you very shortly to identify yourself, but, as you

23 know, you are here to testify for the benefit of

24 the ladies and gentlemen of the jury. What it

25 takes is basically to keep your voice at a


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1 conversational tone. Aim at the microphone, that

2 should pick you up. As far as any questions that

3 are asked of you, do not answer a question you

4 don't understand. If you don't understand it, let

5 us know, I'll redirect the attorneys to pose

6 another question or to clarify the question. Don't

7 volunteer information. If there's an objection,

8 wait until I rule on the objection, and then I will

9 give you instructions on whether to answer or wait

10 for another question, do you understand?

11 THE WITNESS: I do.

12 THE COURT: Okay. State your full name,

13 spell your last name please.

14 THE WITNESS: Scott Kawski, K-A-W-S-K-I.

15 THE COURT: Okay. Your witness,

16 Miss Baumgarten.

17 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

18 Q. You are employed, is that accurate?

19 A. That's correct.

20 Q. Where is that?

21 A. United States Probation Office.

22 Q. How long have you been employed by the United

23 States Probation Office?

24 A. Ten years.

25 Q. What are your current duties there?


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1 A. I am a United States probation officer, and my

2 duties include supervising individuals released on

3 bail.

4 Q. What were your duties during the course of 2008

5 through the early part of 2009?

6 A. Would be the supervision of individuals

7 released on bail.

8 Q. All right. Are you familiar with the

9 defendant?

10 A. Yes.

11 Q. How is it that you know the defendant?

12 A. He is under my supervision.

13 Q. When did he first begin being under your

14 supervision?

15 A. May of 2008.

16 MS. BAUMGARTEN: I'm showing the witness

17 what has been marked for identification purposes

18 Government's Exhibits 37 and 38. Those previously

19 were provided to the defense. May I approach, your

20 Honor?

21 THE COURT: You may.

22 BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

23 Q. Officer Kawski, would you please review

24 Exhibits 37 and 38?

25 A. Sure.
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1 Q. Are you familiar those documents?

2 A. Yes.

3 Q. If I may direct your attention first to what's

4 been marked Government Exhibit 38. What is that

5 document please?

6 A. 38 is the list of conditions ordered by the

7 judge that -- it's an order setting the conditions

8 of release.

9 Q. All right. Is that a document prepared in the

10 ordinary course of the business, not only of the

11 court, but also United States Probation Office?

12 A. Yes.

13 Q. Is it prepared at or about the time the events

14 within that document occurred?

15 A. Yes.

16 Q. Is it kept and maintained in the ordinary

17 course of the business of the court system, but

18 also the United States Probation Office?

19 A. Yes.

20 Q. With respect to Government's Exhibit 38, does

21 it also contain a raised seal?

22 A. This copy does not.

23 Q. On the front page.

24 A. Yes, it does.

25 MS. BAUMGARTEN: All right. The


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1 government moves Exhibit 38 into evidence, your

2 Honor.

3 THE COURT: All right. Any objection?

4 MR. BUCZEK: Yeah, Judge, I object. I

5 haven't even seen the evidence yet.

6 THE COURT: That was previously provided

7 to you, but if you want to take a look at it now.

8 It's right in front of you in your binder.

9 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, would you

10 like me to get the original that has the seal?

11 THE COURT: No, that's okay.

12 MR. BUCZEK: I see a copy, Judge.

13 THE COURT: Okay. On the basis that you

14 hadn't seen it, I'm going to overrule the

15 objection. It will be received into evidence as

16 Government's Exhibit 38.

17 (Government's Exhibit 38 was received into

18 evidence.)

19 BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

20 Q. Who prepares that document?

21 A. This is prepared by someone from our office.

22 Q. In this particular instance was that Probation

23 Officer Zenaida Piotrowicz?

24 A. Yes.

25 Q. That was prepared on March 13, 2008, is that


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1 correct?

2 A. Yes.

3 Q. All right. Where is it prepared?

4 A. In court.

5 Q. What is occurring to the best of your knowledge

6 when the document is prepared?

7 A. When this document is prepared, the judge has

8 decided to release the subject on bail with

9 specific conditions.

10 Q. All right. Is the document signed on page 4 of

11 that?

12 A. Yes.

13 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, may we

14 publish the document for the jury?

15 THE COURT: Yes.

16 BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

17 Q. If I may direct your attention to page 4, is

18 that document signed?

19 A. Yes.

20 Q. By whom?

21 A. By the defendant and by the judge.

22 Q. Who is the judge in this particular instance?

23 A. It would be Judge Schroeder.

24 Q. All right. There's a date also, March 13th

25 date?
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1 A. Yes.

2 Q. All right.

3 THE COURT: Of 2008.

4 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, March 13, 2008?

5 THE WITNESS: Yes.

6 BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

7 Q. All right. Why was -- what were the pending

8 charges with respect to the defendant? Do you

9 recall?

10 A. I don't recall on this particular one what the

11 pending charges were.

12 Q. If you would please state the criminal action

13 number into the record please.

14 A. 1-08-CR-54.

15 Q. If I may direct your attention to subdivision

16 one on page 1 of Exhibit 38, would you -- first of

17 all, what is that?

18 A. That is the first condition that the judge

19 orders.

20 Q. Is it a standard or special condition?

21 A. Standard.

22 Q. What is that standard condition? If you would

23 please read it into the record?

24 A. The defendant shall not commit any offense in

25 violation of federal, state, or local law while on


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1 release in this case.

2 Q. What would occur if a defendant did not sign an

3 order setting conditions of release?

4 A. If he did not sign the conditions of release, I

5 believe the judge would not release him.

6 Q. If I may direct your attention to what has been

7 marked as Government Exhibit 37.

8 A. Okay.

9 Q. Are you familiar with that document?

10 A. Yes.

11 Q. Was it prepared in the ordinary course of the

12 business of the court system and also the United

13 States Probation Office?

14 A. Yes.

15 Q. Was it kept and maintained in the ordinary

16 course of the business of the court system and also

17 the probation office?

18 A. Yes.

19 Q. Was it prepared at or about the time the events

20 and information contained within that exhibit

21 occurred?

22 A. Yes.

23 MS. BAUMGARTEN: The government moves into

24 evidence what has been marked as Government

25 Exhibit 37.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. Any objection,

2 Mr. Buczek?

3 MR. BUCZEK: Yeah, Judge, I'll just object

4 on the record.

5 THE COURT: Okay.

6 MR. BUCZEK: Object to the conditions, and

7 do you want me to make a formal statement on that

8 or save it for later?

9 THE COURT: No. If it's on the basis of

10 the conditions, I'll sustain -- or overrule your

11 objection.

12 MR. BUCZEK: Okay.

13 THE COURT: But I will receive it.

14 MR. BUCZEK: I think you already know what

15 I'm going to say.

16 THE COURT: Okay. I'll receive it as

17 Exhibit 37 government's, received into evidence.

18 (Government's Exhibit 37 was received into

19 evidence.)

20 MS. BAUMGARTEN: May we publish 37 to the

21 jury? Oh, we already did. Thank you.

22 BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

23 Q. What does that document relate to?

24 A. This is an appearance bond.

25 Q. Was there a signature on that appearance bond?


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1 A. Yes.

2 Q. Whose signature?

3 A. Looks like Shane Buczek and Judge Schroeder.

4 Q. Was the defendant released on or about

5 March 13, 2008, pursuant to the provisions of the

6 Bail Reform Act?

7 A. Yes.

8 Q. Did there come a point in time when you met the

9 defendant in order to supervise him?

10 A. Yes.

11 Q. What occurred during that initial meeting?

12 A. The initial meeting is when we review the

13 conditions of release, provide him with copies of

14 those, and the instructions of our office are

15 given.

16 Q. During the course of your initial meeting with

17 the defendant, did you review each and every one of

18 the standard and special conditions that were

19 imposed upon him as conditions of his release?

20 A. Yes. All the conditions are reviewed.

21 Q. Did you have any discussions with the defendant

22 concerning the consequences should he fail to

23 violate any of those standard or special conditions

24 of release?

25 A. Yes, that is a standard practice in our office.


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1 Q. In the event that the defendant had any

2 questions concerning any of those conditions, what

3 would have occurred?

4 A. They were to ask me, and I would have answered

5 them.

6 Q. Was it on or about March 13, 2008, the only

7 time you had discussions with the defendant?

8 A. No.

9 Q. Did you discuss with the defendant at any other

10 time any of the conditions of his release?

11 A. Yes.

12 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, can I object?

13 THE COURT: Not at this point. There's

14 nothing before the witness.

15 BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

16 Q. Was the defendant on release under the

17 supervision of the United States Probation Office

18 in September 2008 up to through and including

19 January 2009?

20 A. Yes.

21 Q. Does the defendant continue to be on

22 supervision?

23 A. Yes.

24 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Nothing further, your

25 Honor.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. All right. Mr. Buczek,

2 any questions?

3 MR. BUCZEK: Yes, Judge, I do.

4 THE COURT: Okay.

5 MS. BAUMGARTEN: The originals are still

6 with the witness, your Honor.

7 THE COURT: Yes. We'll leave them right

8 there at this time.

9 CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BUCZEK:

10 Q. Good morning.

11 A. Morning.

12 Q. I don't think I need to ask your name for the

13 record, but it's -- I'm sorry to eat up your time

14 today, Mr. Kawski. I do want to go back to, real

15 briefly, to the document that we just briefly saw

16 on the screen. I think it was dated March 13th

17 of 2008, Exhibit 38?

18 A. Okay.

19 Q. Do you know -- let me ask you in a different

20 way. You didn't prepare that document, did you?

21 A. No.

22 Q. Okay. You weren't in court when Judge

23 Schroeder ordered that condition on I think it's

24 March 13th, 2008, were you?

25 A. No.
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1 Q. Okay. You said if the defendant does not sign

2 the conditions, the judge would not release him, is

3 that correct?

4 A. Yes.

5 Q. Have you ever had a situation like that happen

6 before if a defendant would walk into the courtroom

7 would not sign?

8 A. I've never personally, no.

9 Q. Has anybody ever signed under threat of duress

10 and coercion?

11 A. Not to my knowledge.

12 Q. Under these circumstances is it possible that

13 the defendant's signature is not entirely

14 voluntarily when you're looking at possible jail or

15 prison I should say, do you think that maybe

16 possibly they're doing it under threat and duress?

17 A. I don't know what their state of mind is when

18 they sign it.

19 Q. Were you present in the court -- I'm sorry, let

20 me back up a second, I want to go back to Exhibit

21 number 39 real quick, please.

22 THE COURT: 37?

23 MR. COMERFORD: 37, I'm sorry.

24 MR. BUCZEK: 37.

25 MR. COMERFORD: Thank you.


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1 BY MR. BUCZEK:

2 Q. So you weren't present in the courtroom on

3 March 14, 2008, when the appearance bond was

4 posted, were you?

5 A. No.

6 Q. So you're assuming that the judge told -- told

7 you that -- told me that I was on release under the

8 Bail Reform Act, actually the defendant I should

9 say, sorry.

10 A. Yes.

11 Q. Okay. So you actually didn't hear him do it on

12 audio or transcripts or --

13 A. I was not there, no.

14 Q. Okay. Just a couple more questions,

15 Mr. Kawski. You're here on your public capacity or

16 private capacity today?

17 A. I don't know what you mean by that question.

18 Q. Public or private capacity?

19 A. I'm here because I was subpoenaed by the Court.

20 Q. Okay. Has there been any -- I believe you came

21 down to the defendant's house a few times over the

22 last year or year and a half. Can you briefly

23 recall anything that might have taken place or

24 anything that you can recall at all?

25 A. The conversations regarding the defendant's


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1 supervision.

2 Q. That's it? That's all you can recall?

3 A. Yes.

4 Q. Okay. Is the United States employees required

5 to have a 1938 Foreign Registration Act, green

6 card, oath of office --

7 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection.

8 MR. BUCZEK: -- bond? Judge, I'm just

9 trying to establish authority here, that's all.

10 THE COURT: I'll permit the question. I

11 don't know what the full question is, then I'll

12 entertain --

13 MR. BUCZEK: It's just a yes or no

14 question.

15 THE COURT: Just ask a question, please.

16 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you.

17 BY MR. BUCZEK:

18 Q. Are the probation officers -- actually all the

19 U.S. employees are they required to have some type

20 of Foreign Registration Act? It's called 1938

21 Foreign Registration Act, green card, oath of

22 office, bonding agent, just basic authority? For

23 example, if you have a car, you have to have car

24 insurance, registration. Are the United States

25 employees required to have that?


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1 A. I don't know the answer to that.

2 Q. That's all, I just want to put it on the

3 record. Mr. Kawski, do you have a claim against

4 the defendant?

5 A. No.

6 Q. Do you know anybody that has a claim against

7 the defendant?

8 A. I'm not sure what you mean by claim.

9 Q. Basically -- well, do you know anybody that has

10 some type -- how do we say it in a way we might

11 understand. Is there an injured party present in

12 the courtroom that can point to the defendant?

13 A. Could you rephrase that?

14 Q. Is there an injured party that you can point to

15 in the courtroom validating the conditions, because

16 you must have an injured party to validate the

17 conditions of release.

18 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

19 THE COURT: Sustained. You've asked the

20 question. It's not a proper question. You may

21 move on.

22 MR. BUCZEK: Okay. Thank you, Judge.

23 THE COURT: You're welcome.

24 BY MR. BUCZEK:

25 Q. Are you -- are you familiar with the violation


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1 that took place back on August 13th of 2009?

2 A. Yes.

3 Q. I'm sorry, let me rephrase that. It's

4 August 12th, 2009.

5 A. Yes.

6 Q. Can you please give me just a little bit of

7 information of actually what happened on that

8 night? I believe your signature is on here

9 somewhere.

10 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, there is a

11 document --

12 MR. BUCZEK: Dated -- yeah, it's dated

13 8/12/2009 signed by Scott Kawski. It's a condition

14 that was alleged bail violation on

15 August 1st of 2009. Are you aware of that?

16 THE WITNESS: I'm aware of that, but I

17 would need something to look at to --

18 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I have a copy.

19 THE COURT: Okay. You want to mark that

20 as a defense exhibit?

21 MR. BUCZEK: Please.

22 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, may we staple

23 it? It's a multi-page document.

24 THE COURT: Sure. Just count the number

25 of pages for the record, please.


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1 MS. BAUMGARTEN: There are four, your

2 Honor.

3 THE COURT: Okay.

4 MS. BAUMGARTEN: I'm not sure that the

5 defendant is moving it into evidence at this point,

6 or what he's attempting to do, your Honor.

7 MR. COMERFORD: I think it's just for

8 identification at this point. May I approach

9 Mr. Kawski?

10 THE COURT: You may.

11 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Thank you.

12 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Buczek, any

13 questions?

14 MR. BUCZEK: Yeah, I do have a question.

15 BY MR. BUCZEK:

16 Q. In that particular document, do you recall

17 what -- the events that took place on that day?

18 A. On the date that the document was prepared?

19 Q. Yes.

20 A. The events that took place was I prepared this

21 document and submitted it to the Court.

22 THE COURT: What's the date that you're

23 talking about?

24 THE WITNESS: August 12th, 2009.

25 THE COURT: Okay.


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1 MR. BUCZEK: Was there any -- any -- I

2 guess I should ask in a different way. Do you

3 recall the conclusion of that -- that alleged bail

4 violation?

5 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

6 It's beyond the scope of the timeframe within the

7 indictment, as the date he testified to is in

8 August of 2009. That post-dates the January close,

9 2009.

10 THE COURT: Okay. Stop with that. That's

11 your explanation, that's your objection. Go ahead,

12 Mr. Buczek.

13 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I'm trying to

14 establish the behavior of the U.S. attorney's

15 office --

16 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

17 MR. BUCZEK: -- against the defendant.

18 All these conditions are based on the fruit of the

19 poisonous tree doctrine.

20 THE COURT: Okay.

21 MR. BUCZEK: I'm just trying to establish

22 something here.

23 THE COURT: And that's not a cognizable

24 legal objection for this particular document and

25 it's relevance, so I will sustain the government's


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1 objection. You cannot use this document, and you

2 cannot further question on that theory. So it's

3 put to rest. You've identified it for the record,

4 and we'll move on.

5 MR. BUCZEK: Okay. Thank you. The next

6 bail violation I believe was dated January 11,

7 2010, are you aware of that one?

8 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor,

9 same thing.

10 THE COURT: All right. Sustained.

11 MR. BUCZEK: No?

12 THE COURT: No. Not relevant.

13 MR. BUCZEK: Okay.

14 BY MR. BUCZEK:

15 Q. Mr. Kawski, are you aware of the -- I believe I

16 dropped this. This is a long time ago. This goes

17 way back to January 9th, 2009. I believe I dropped

18 off a courtesy copy to your office and Judge

19 Schroeder sometime right around January 8th or the

20 9th of 2009. And that document was document number

21 83 filed -- okay, here it is. It's filed under

22 01/09/2009. It was a 16-page document pertaining

23 to the case number 1:08-CR-00054, and it's -- just

24 briefly, it just talks about my signature. It's

25 notice of rescission of signature pertaining to the


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1 conditions that we're talking about today. Are you

2 aware of that document?

3 THE WITNESS: I don't recall the exact

4 document without seeing it. You provided me

5 volumes of documents over the course of

6 supervision.

7 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, can I make this as

8 exhibit C?

9 THE COURT: All right. And that's notice

10 of rescission of signature, is that essentially the

11 document?

12 MR. BUCZEK: It's right here.

13 THE COURT: All right. What do you want

14 to do with that, Mr. Buczek?

15 MR. BUCZEK: Basically show him that the

16 conditions that we're talking about today are --

17 are invalid because what I'm trying to get to with

18 Mr. Kawski I've been looking for who has a claim

19 against the defendant, and at this particular time

20 you can't have a condition without a claim.

21 THE COURT: Okay. What I'll do is I'll

22 permit the document to be marked. However, if

23 there's an objection, I will sustain the objection

24 to its use.

25 MS. BAUMGARTEN: There is, your Honor.


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1 THE COURT: Okay.

2 MS. BAUMGARTEN: The government objects.

3 THE COURT: All right. So you cannot use

4 the document. You cannot further question along

5 those lines. It's not relevant and not material

6 and not competent.

7 BY MR. BUCZEK:

8 Q. Okay. Mr. Kawski, how many times has the

9 defendant allegedly been violated in the last two

10 years, or tried to have been violated?

11 A. Three times I believe.

12 Q. Okay. How many times has the government been

13 successful in violating my conditions?

14 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

15 THE COURT: Yeah, sustained. It's not

16 relevant.

17 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I strongly believe

18 it's bias, I --

19 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

20 THE COURT: Okay. Okay. I mean, that

21 will be noted for the record. That's your

22 response. But the ruling remains the same.

23 Objection sustained.

24 BY MR. BUCZEK:

25 Q. Mr. Kawski, I know I should ask it in a way


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1 that you know my belief system, correct?

2 A. I am aware of, yes, some of it.

3 Q. And maybe it's a little outside the box?

4 A. Outside -- I don't understand what you mean by

5 outside the box.

6 Q. It's not a normal thinking that people would

7 think of -- and in our country I guess.

8 A. I would agree with that.

9 Q. It's kind of odd.

10 A. Yes.

11 Q. And the defendant studies quite frequently, and

12 maybe every now and then -- not all the time, but

13 every now and then might drop off courtesy copies

14 that kind of like refer to the case or cases at

15 hand, is that correct?

16 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

17 Relevance.

18 THE COURT: Well, I don't know, maybe it's

19 preliminary, so I'll overrule your objection right

20 now. You may answer that question.

21 THE WITNESS: I don't know the amount of

22 the study, but I do know about the amount of copies

23 that I have, yes.

24 BY MR. BUCZEK:

25 Q. Do you know what -- what the subject matter is?


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1 A. I have a basic idea what the subject matter is,

2 yes.

3 Q. Okay.

4 MR. BUCZEK: I'm almost done, Judge.

5 BY MR. BUCZEK:

6 Q. Mr. Kawski, I think I left you a phone call --

7 I dropped you a phone call on Friday or Saturday

8 night about coming to court on Monday. And just to

9 basically give you notice that I had to be here.

10 Are you familiar with that phone call?

11 A. Yes.

12 Q. Okay. Good. In that phone call do you recall

13 the message?

14 A. Not verbatim, no.

15 Q. Not verbatim, but you do recall that I gave you

16 notice to be here today?

17 A. Yes.

18 Q. Even though I didn't subpoena you, the

19 government did.

20 A. Yes.

21 Q. Mr. Kawski, do you know the actual definition

22 of -- of defendant?

23 A. Not verbatim, no.

24 Q. Okay. Do you know the actual definition of a

25 person?
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1 A. Again, not verbatim.

2 Q. Okay. Do you know the definition of Title 28

3 3002 (15) (a), (b), (c)?

4 A. No.

5 Q. The only reason I brought that up, Mr. Kawski,

6 is I believe in the last couple years I might have

7 left something like that to give you my mindset on

8 the corporations and the real party, and all that.

9 Judge, I'm just basically trying to set matters

10 here, my belief system. And in my belief that --

11 without eating too much more of the Court's time,

12 as I'm trying to establish a valid contract of

13 conditions of release, and that has not been met at

14 this time in two years. And if it was signed --

15 and I've done it over and over and over again --

16 that every signature in the last two years have

17 been under threat of duress and coercion. I had no

18 choice, you either signed it or you go to jail. I

19 just want to make a point of it.

20 THE COURT: Okay. If there's evidence of

21 that, you may argue that.

22 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you. I have no further

23 question.

24 THE COURT: Okay.

25 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you.


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1 THE COURT: Anything?

2 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Just a couple, your

3 Honor.

4 THE COURT: Okay. Just briefly please.

5 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes.

6 REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MS. BAUMGARTEN:

7 Q. During the course of your employment as a

8 probation officer, have you been present in court

9 when defendants such as this defendant have an

10 initial appearance and conditions of release are

11 set?

12 A. Yes.

13 Q. Based on that experience would you just briefly

14 tell the jury what occurs?

15 A. The judge reads the charges against the

16 defendant, a decision is made whether he will be

17 released on bail or kept in custody. If the

18 decision is made that he'll be released, a set of

19 conditions is picked out by the judge. He reads

20 what those conditions are in court. Our office

21 records those conditions, and when he is released,

22 those are the conditions that he is subject to.

23 Q. The probation officers who are present in court

24 when that process occurs, are they assigned to your

25 unit?
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1 A. Yes.

2 Q. Are they individuals who actively supervise

3 defendants?

4 A. Not all the time.

5 Q. Would you identify when you speak concerning

6 Shane Buczek, who that is?

7 A. The individual at the defense table with the

8 stars and stripes tie on.

9 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Nothing further, your

10 Honor.

11 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

12 MR. BUCZEK: One question.

13 THE COURT: Certainly.

14 CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BUCZEK:

15 Q. Mr. Kawski, we had a trial last week that

16 you're aware of, right?

17 A. Yes.

18 Q. I think it was the issue with bonded promissory

19 note. Have I ever dropped anything off to your

20 office concerning how the banks operate?

21 A. I don't recall everything that's in those piles

22 of papers. I don't know.

23 Q. Okay. So, do you recall anything concerning

24 how banks accept payments as promissory notes?

25 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.


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1 THE COURT: All right.

2 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I'm getting back --

3 THE COURT: It's beyond the scope now,

4 Mr. Buczek. Objection sustained.

5 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you. All right.

6 BY MR. BUCZEK:

7 Q. Mr. Kawski, do you recall on

8 January 16th of 2009, at around 6:00 o'clock in the

9 morning?

10 A. You need to be a little more specific.

11 Q. Do you recall that there was an actual raid,

12 not at my house but at my parent's house

13 January 16th, 2009. Do you recall that morning?

14 A. I do.

15 Q. Was the -- the weather not that great, were

16 they?

17 A. It was wintertime.

18 Q. Yeah, it was a bad day. Do you recall -- I

19 believe you guys had a meeting outside that

20 location somewhere on Route 5?

21 A. Yes.

22 Q. Can you please tell me the discussions that

23 took place?

24 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Objection, your Honor.

25 Beyond the scope.


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1 THE COURT: Sustained.

2 MR. BUCZEK: Mr. Kawski, did you see the

3 actual warrant on January 16th?

4 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, objection.

5 THE COURT: Sustained.

6 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Beyond the scope.

7 MR. BUCZEK: I have more questions, but I

8 think I'm -- I'm done, Judge. Thank you.

9 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Buczek.

10 Mr. Kawski, you're excused. Thank you very much.

11 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, I'm just

12 going to get the exhibits.

13 THE COURT: Okay. Anything additional?

14 MS. BAUMGARTEN: No, your Honor. The

15 government rests.

16 THE COURT: Okay. 37 and 38 are included

17 in the evidence of the government.

18 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, your Honor.

19 THE COURT: Okay. All right.

20 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I have a question.

21 Did this make it into the evidence file?

22 THE COURT: It's not in evidence, but it's

23 marked for identification, so your record is

24 protected.

25 MR. BUCZEK: The jury won't be able to see


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1 this, right?

2 THE COURT: No, they will not. Okay. Is

3 there anything from the defense?

4 Mr. Comerford, you want to talk with

5 Mr. Buczek?

6 MR. COMERFORD: I will, Judge. Just for

7 the record, and I'll supplement it at a later time,

8 we would make a motion to dismiss under Rule 29.

9 Reserve the right to supplement that.

10 THE COURT: Okay.

11 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I'm going to go ahead

12 and disregard the opening statement. I think the

13 jury has heard enough. I do want to call one

14 eyewitness in concerning this issue, I'm going to

15 call Amanda in.

16 THE COURT: All right. Concerning what

17 issue, Mr. Buczek?

18 MR. BUCZEK: Amanda Buczek.

19 THE COURT: I know, but what issue?

20 MR. BUCZEK: The issue if she has

21 firsthand knowledge of my documents, and everything

22 concerning these conditions of release.

23 THE COURT: Okay.

24 MR. BUCZEK: It's just basically trying to

25 validate the contract that we have that we're


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1 talking about today.

2 MS. BAUMGARTEN: The government would

3 oppose this particular witness on this point, your

4 Honor.

5 THE COURT: All right. If it's a

6 validation of the contract issue, then I will

7 sustain the government objection, and preclude her

8 testimony.

9 MR. BUCZEK: And I object, Judge.

10 THE COURT: Okay.

11 MR. BUCZEK: As long as it's noted.

12 THE COURT: Okay. With that, the defense

13 rests?

14 MR. BUCZEK: I don't have an eyewitness

15 list in front of me. There was others that would

16 like to take the stand, unfortunately my mom and

17 dad are not here today, they're out of town. I do

18 have serious issues and doubts about this condition

19 that it's -- you know, it's like I got a gun

20 pointed at my head, but I'll rest at this point,

21 Judge.

22 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. No

23 rebuttal?

24 MS. BAUMGARTEN: No, your Honor.

25 THE COURT: Ready to close?


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1 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, your Honor.

2 THE COURT: Okay.

3 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, your Honor. Ladies

4 and gentlemen of the jury, the testimony was fairly

5 straight forward, at least I'm arguing that it is,

6 with respect to not only the imposition of the

7 condition of release on the defendant on

8 March 13, 2008, but also that he continued to be

9 under that supervision, including that condition,

10 during the course of conduct that's at issue in

11 Count I of the indictment, that being

12 September 18, 2008, up to and including

13 January 2009. So the government asks the jury to

14 consider the testimony. Also consider Exhibits 37

15 and 38, the signature by the defendant on each of

16 those documents, and additionally, the discussions

17 that Officer Kawski testified regarding that he

18 actually had with the defendant during the course

19 of that supervision. Please find the defendant

20 guilty on Count II. Thank you.

21 THE COURT: Okay. The government's

22 burden, as you know, is beyond a reasonable doubt

23 on the essential elements. We'll talk about that

24 precisely. The defendant is presumed innocent

25 until proven guilty. What you heard the prosecutor


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1 argue to you is her closing argument, but it's not

2 evidence. Only evidence that you are to consider

3 is that from the witness who testified or any

4 documents -- and any documents that are received

5 into evidence.

6 So with that, Mr. Buczek, is there anything you

7 want to say in your closing argument?

8 MR. BUCZEK: Yes.

9 MR. COMERFORD: One second, Judge.

10 MR. BUCZEK: One second, Judge.

11 THE COURT: Certainly.

12 MR. BUCZEK: Okay. All right. Thank you,

13 everyone. We just heard from Mr. Kawski just now

14 pertaining to these conditions of release.

15 Mr. Kawski has firsthand knowledge of -- actually

16 he doesn't have firsthand knowledge of what the

17 proceedings took place way back on March of 2008.

18 And he was not in the courtroom and he did not

19 prepare the documents. He assumed a presumption

20 that the judge released the defendant on the Bail

21 Reform Act which the judge will tell you is in the

22 element of the government's -- is an element that

23 the government must prove beyond a reasonable

24 doubt. And also the defendant asked Mr. Kawski if

25 there was a claim present in the Court and, of


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1 course, that has not been established, and it

2 hasn't been established at all in the last week and

3 a half. And I have no further questions. It's up

4 to you to make the right decision. But, on and for

5 the record, Judge, there's no claim.

6 THE COURT: Okay.

7 MR. BUCZEK: No valid claim anyways.

8 Thank you.

9 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Buczek. Okay.

10 Ladies and gentlemen, it's now a complete case, all

11 right? That's everything that the parties have

12 with respect to Count II of the indictment. And

13 you are now about to enter your final duty, which

14 is to decide the case and the case being Count II.

15 You've already rendered your decision with respect

16 to Count I of the indictment.

17 I will instruct you on the law applicable to

18 Count II. I'm not going to repeat my instructions

19 that I gave you on Friday. But those instructions

20 specifically continue to apply. I've instructed

21 you on your duty as it relates to finding facts and

22 weighing evidence and the credibility of the

23 witnesses, all of that applies here today.

24 It's your continuing duty to adhere to the

25 instructions as you deliberate on Count II. You


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1 should follow the same method at arriving at a

2 verdict on Count II as you did on Count I, and your

3 verdict must be based exclusively upon the evidence

4 or lack of evidence presented to you. And once

5 again, you must be unanimous in your verdict.

6 You've heard the testimony of Scott Kawski.

7 He's a law enforcement official. He's a member of

8 the Probation Department or probation office. He

9 is law enforcement, if you will, and, again, I

10 remind you the fact that a witness may be employed

11 by the federal government as a law enforcement

12 official, that fact does not mean that his

13 testimony is necessarily deserving of more or less

14 consideration or greater or lesser weight of that

15 of an ordinary witness. It is up to you to give

16 that testimony whatever weight, if any, you find it

17 deserves.

18 Now you know that there's Count II, that's what

19 you are considering. It's -- the indictment

20 Count II is only an accusation. A not guilty plea

21 has been entered to that count. I told you that

22 not guilty plea has also been entered as to

23 Count I. As a result of the not guilty plea to

24 Count II, the burden is on the prosecution to prove

25 guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. And remember the


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1 definition of reasonable doubt was a doubt based on

2 reason. And that burden with respect to proof

3 never shifts to the defendant, and once again, the

4 reason is the same. The law never imposes on a

5 defendant in a criminal case the burden or duty of

6 calling any witnesses or producing any evidence. A

7 defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

8 I therefore instruct you that the defendant

9 Shane Buczek in this case to be presumed by you to

10 be innocent throughout your deliberation until such

11 time, if ever, you as a jury are satisfied that the

12 government has proven the defendant guilty beyond a

13 reasonable doubt.

14 Count II of the indictment charges Shane Buczek

15 with committing an offense while on pretrial

16 release in violation of the specific statute or law

17 of the United States, Title 18, Section 3147, and

18 that indictment is what I read to you earlier, and

19 that is that Shane Buczek, according to the charge,

20 was on release pursuant to an order dated

21 March 13th, 2008, from this district, the Western

22 District of New York, in case number 08-CR-54 --

23 this case is 09-criminal-121 -- which order

24 notified him of the potential effect of committing

25 an offense while on pretrial release. And further,


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1 the charge is that from on or about September 18th,

2 2008, to on or about January 16th, 2009, in the

3 Western District and elsewhere, Shane Buczek did

4 commit the offense of bank fraud, which you found,

5 in the manner set forth in Count I in violation of

6 Title 18, United States Code, Section 1344, all in

7 violation of Title 18, Section 3147(1).

8 The indictment is not evidence. I remind you

9 of that again. It merely describes the charges

10 made against Mr. Buczek. It is only an accusation

11 and nothing more.

12 Now here's the elements, the essential elements

13 of the crime. This is Count II. Each must be

14 established beyond a reasonable doubt. First, that

15 Mr. Buczek was released pursuant to the Bail Reform

16 Act; second, that he was notified of the effect of

17 committing an offense while on pretrial release;

18 and third, that he committed an offense while he

19 was on pretrial release, namely, the bank fraud

20 offense charged in Count I for which you have

21 already found him guilty.

22 Now, with respect to that, the government must

23 prove these essential elements by the required

24 degree of proof as I've explained to you beyond a

25 reasonable doubt. If it succeeds in your unanimous


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1 determination, your verdict should be guilty on

2 Count II. If it fails to prove those essential

3 elements beyond a reasonable doubt, your verdict

4 should be not guilty. And again, to record any

5 verdict it must be unanimous in this case. Your

6 function is to weigh the evidence in the case and

7 determine whether or not Mr. Buczek is guilty on

8 Count II solely on the basis of the evidence or

9 lack of evidence. So your final vote must reflect

10 your conscientious conviction as to how the issue

11 should be decided. Your verdict, whether guilty or

12 not guilty, must be unanimous.

13 After you have reached a unanimous verdict,

14 just have your foreperson, Mr. Bridges, fill in the

15 verdict form that has been given to you. He will

16 sign it and advise the court security officer that

17 you are ready to return to the courtroom with your

18 verdict. As to the questions you answer on the

19 verdict form, your answers must be, as you know,

20 unanimous. Each and every juror must agree before

21 an answer to the question is recorded on the

22 verdict form. I stress that you should be in

23 agreement with the unanimous verdict which is

24 announced in court, and once your verdict is

25 announced by your foreperson, Mr. Bridges, in open


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1 court and officially recorded, it ordinarily cannot

2 be revoked.

3 This incorporates all of the other charges and

4 instructions that I've given you with respect to

5 Count I. The fabric is the totality, and your job

6 is to carry out your oath, reach your unanimous

7 verdict, determining whether the government's proof

8 satisfies you beyond a reasonable doubt on each

9 essential element of the crime charged.

10 Anything further by way of charge?

11 MS. BAUMGARTEN: No, your Honor.

12 THE COURT: Okay.

13 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you, Judge.

14 THE COURT: All right. Thank you,

15 Mr. Buczek.

16 Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, what we will do,

17 once again, that's it. You will get the folder

18 relating to this count. We will have our court

19 security officer sworn by Miss Labuzzetta. He will

20 take you in his charge. We will ask Miss Alexander

21 to step aside. You will wait for us until the

22 verdict is rendered, and we need you as the backup

23 in this case, okay?

24 Thank you. You've been terrific. You know,

25 this is important to both sides, so please do your


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1 duty. We'll be here when you're ready to come back

2 with your verdict.

3 If you would administer the oath, please

4 Miss Labuzzetta.

5 (Oath administered.)

6 THE COURT: I hope some day they change

7 that oath, but it gets the message across. All

8 right. Important case, all right. Please decide

9 it, and we'll wait for you to come back. Okay.

10 Thank you.

11 (Jury deliberations commenced at 10:50

12 a.m.)

13 THE COURT: Miss Alexander, if you just

14 stay as the jury leaves.

15 Okay. You know you are in a utility role here,

16 backup, in case we need your services. We will

17 notify you when the verdict will be delivered to

18 the Court. And you are permitted to be here for

19 that.

20 A JUROR: Okay.

21 THE COURT: Okay. So you want -- okay.

22 Our court security officer Bernie will take you

23 back to the jury assembly room, and we'll have you

24 notified when everything is finalized for today.

25 A JUROR: Okay.
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1 THE COURT: Thanks for coming in, I really

2 appreciate it. Okay.

3 Bernie, if you wouldn't mind please.

4 (Alternate juror excused from the

5 courtroom.)

6 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Your Honor, as is the

7 normal practice, counsel has reviewed exhibits as

8 does --

9 THE COURT: Mr. Bruce, please.

10 MS. BAUMGARTEN: As does the defendant.

11 It is my understanding that the defendant refuses

12 to sign the exhibit list prior to its submission to

13 the jury with respect to Count II.

14 THE COURT: All right. That's -- that's

15 your prerogative.

16 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I have nothing in

17 there for them to review.

18 THE COURT: Okay.

19 MR. BUCZEK: And it's just -- just like

20 the trial, they had 30 some exhibits, I had none.

21 And here we go again. I got to at least get

22 something in so they have something to see maybe

23 there's a doubt here, and they have nothing to

24 review. I mean, if -- if -- you know, we got to be

25 like semi-fair.
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1 THE COURT: All right. In the Count I

2 there was one of your exhibits that was received

3 and did go to the jury room. In this case there

4 are none, but they have to be properly qualified

5 and established and relevant, and they were not in

6 my judgment. But you've made your record, you've

7 perfected that. So, I guess all of that can relate

8 to the appeal process, but, remember what I said,

9 and that's why I gave you Mr. Comerford, because

10 you have to follow the rules. And everybody plays

11 by the same rules. And yes, I know you want

12 certain things in there. I let you make statements

13 so that the -- you know, that kind of thing, but it

14 would not be fair under the rules to allow you to

15 do something that the rules don't permit.

16 MR. BUCZEK: All I was trying to say,

17 Judge, is -- I know.

18 THE COURT: No. No.

19 MR. BUCZEK: All I'm trying to say is that

20 who has a claim against me? Geez, for seven days

21 now I've been asking over and over again. I mean,

22 you're going to find -- which we have an issue who

23 the defendant is. But the thing is that even the

24 defendant has no claim against him. And that's my

25 whole issue, they're not going to be able to know


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1 what's going on.

2 THE COURT: But see, and this is what I've

3 been trying to tell you all along. The indictment

4 is the charge slash claim against you for this

5 criminal case. I know it doesn't comport with what

6 you view to be a claim. But for purposes of our

7 system, it is a criminal charge claim, if you will.

8 So you have to deal with that, and then, you know,

9 we'll see what happens afterwards.

10 MR. BUCZEK: I understand that. But in my

11 opinion -- I don't want to say I know the law. But

12 in my opinion for anything to be criminal they have

13 to produce a verified affidavit of complaint, and

14 the government has not even come close to doing

15 that, and you know it, I know it, and maybe

16 Mr. Bruce knows it. There is no -- there is no

17 proof of claim. There is no claim. Who has a

18 claim?

19 THE COURT: Okay. But we just talked

20 about that, and this does get repetitious, right?

21 Yeah.

22 MR. BUCZEK: It's on the record, that's

23 all I want.

24 THE COURT: Okay.

25 MR. BUCZEK: But it's -- I mean --


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1 THE COURT: I know.

2 MR. BUCZEK: I don't know what to say. I

3 can't even get this in the evidence file.

4 THE COURT: Okay. Well, the record I

5 think will also demonstrate your frustration, and

6 if that's enough, I don't know in the end result.

7 But to the best of my ability I've tried to give

8 you your forum to make your case. But it's not

9 enough to qualify the documents and the evidence

10 that you wanted to get in under the rules that

11 apply to criminal cases in the norm.

12 So, stay around. When the verdict -- the jury

13 verdict comes in, we want you here, and we'll go

14 from there.

15 MR. BUCZEK: I do have some comments about

16 the trial, but I will save that for later.

17 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

18 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you.

19 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Thank you, your Honor.

20 MR. BRUCE: And Happy Birthday.

21 (Short recess was taken.)

22 (Case resumed at 11:29 a.m.)

23 (Jury seated.)

24 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you for coming

25 back, we appreciate that. We're resumed in the


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1 case of United States versus Shane Buczek. This

2 proceeding relates to specifically Count number II

3 of the indictment. The government attorneys are

4 back present, and Mr. Buczek as well, and standby

5 counsel Mr. Comerford. So the jury is back here,

6 roll call waived.

7 I did receive a note at approximately -- looks

8 like 11:17 -- I'm sorry 11:19 I think, and the note

9 reads as follows. "We have a verdict." And,

10 Mr. Bridge, I takes it you have the verdict, is

11 that right?

12 THE FOREMAN: Yes, sir.

13 THE COURT: Okay. And you have been

14 authorized by the ladies and gentlemen of the jury

15 to return a verdict on their behalf, and it is

16 unanimous, is that correct?

17 THE FOREMAN: Yes, sir.

18 THE COURT: Okay. If you would give

19 Miss Labuzzetta, please, the verdict form, we'll

20 proceed in the same fashion that we did on Friday.

21 I will review it for form and substance.

22 (The verdict was reviewed by the Court.)

23 THE COURT: Okay. It is in order. If you

24 would return this please to Mr. Bridges, I would

25 appreciate it, Miss Labuzzetta.


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1 Okay. Mr. Bridges, if you would rise please?

2 THE CLERK: Mr. Bridges, on behalf of the

3 jury, Count II, commission of an offense while on

4 release, how do you find as to the defendant Shane

5 C. Buczek on Count II?

6 THE FOREMAN: Guilty.

7 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Bridges, is that

8 the verdict that you were authorized to make in

9 open court on behalf of all of the members of the

10 jury?

11 THE FOREMAN: Yes, your Honor.

12 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. We will

13 accept the verdict form. The verdict is unanimous.

14 Is there anything additional, Miss Baumgarten?

15 MS. BAUMGARTEN: No, your Honor.

16 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Buczek?

17 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, I'll just put non

18 consent to the verdict based on the ratification of

19 commencement Rule 17(a). And also another issue I

20 just found out over the weekend is there seems to

21 be no concurrence form that twelve people concurred

22 on the indictment, and also the large issue, as I

23 was speaking to Brian, is I think it was Rule 29

24 and there is a -- we'll address that at a later

25 time, Judge. But at this time the defendant does


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1 not consent to the guilty verdict. Thank you.

2 THE COURT: Okay, Mr. Buczek. Over that

3 objection though the verdict will be recorded and

4 entered in court. It is now dispositive of this

5 case.

6 Ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for

7 your service. I know that you had to interrupt

8 your work schedule and your daily schedule both

9 last week and launching this week as well. But

10 that is very much appreciated. Being a juror, I

11 hope from your standpoint, was a positive

12 experience. Frankly, the case is a little bit

13 different type of case, but --

14 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Might we call the

15 alternate back, Judge, if you want to thank --

16 THE COURT: She's already here.

17 MS. BAUMGARTEN: I'm sorry, I didn't

18 realize that, Judge.

19 THE COURT: And actually we could probably

20 put her in the seat. Miss Alexander, do you want

21 to come on up and join the jury? And I think they

22 still remember who you are.

23 Probably been taking lessons from Mr. Humann,

24 she sits behind the bearing column so that I

25 couldn't see her fully. If you go right through


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1 that gate please, Miss Alexander. And I want to

2 thank you as well, you're the alternate juror, and

3 that's never an easy task, because you fill a

4 utility role. You don't get to do, after all your

5 hard work, the deliberating, and although that's

6 very difficult. I hope from both the jury's

7 standpoint and yours and the alternates that it was

8 a positive experience for you.

9 I mentioned to you early at the outset how

10 critical and important jury service is in our

11 system. I mean, we are one of the very few

12 countries in the world that has this type of

13 system, and what it does is allows all individuals

14 of all beliefs of all types to get a resolve

15 whether the persons agree or disagree with the

16 outcome of the case. At least it presents a forum

17 where individuals, peers, can work together to hear

18 evidence, apply the rules, try to reach unanimity,

19 and resolve the case, and then the process still

20 has light after the return of a verdict, but at

21 least at this level the case is concluded. And

22 it's a tremendous part of our system to have juries

23 and jurors and the opportunity to resolve a case

24 that cannot otherwise be resolved. It's sometimes

25 very, very difficult. But the system I think is an


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1 invaluable one. Hopefully the experience has been

2 invaluable.

3 We really appreciate the effort that you made,

4 especially coming back today. I know that was very

5 difficult. You worked hard on Friday, and you

6 know, not everybody's happy with a verdict like

7 this in a case. But, you know, doing the right

8 thing from your standpoint is difficult, and doing

9 right is almost always difficult, and it's always

10 more meaningful. Sometimes when you work hard to

11 accomplish a result -- and you did accomplish

12 something, you did come back and you did render a

13 verdict by all accounts, it is unanimous, we're

14 very appreciative of that. You conducted yourself

15 admirably.

16 There are a couple of things that you should

17 know in closing. If you get a chance, what I

18 always do is try to speak with the jurors. I'm on

19 a real tight schedule today, but if you can stay

20 around for five minutes -- you don't have to. I'm

21 not personally offended. Oftentimes jurors have

22 had more than enough of me, so they bolt out of

23 here like lightening. If you would like to stay,

24 I'll just ask a few questions or answer a few

25 questions, whatever the case may be, and further


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1 thank you for your service, because we profoundly

2 appreciate what you have done. Your foreperson's

3 service, thank you for serving in that capacity.

4 Now, it is under the rules allowable for you to

5 be asked for responses to questions by attorneys or

6 individuals associated with the case, the

7 defendant. But you don't have to answer the

8 questions. You will be given access to leaving the

9 building carefully and quickly, and we do that with

10 all juries. But if you choose to answer any

11 questions, keep in mind that your responses -- and

12 the attorneys know what they cannot ask you. They

13 can't get into things like the deliberative process

14 and what was involved and that kind of thing.

15 Maybe what you thought of the attorneys or what you

16 think about somebody, how he did something or she

17 did something, that's generally the questions that

18 can be approached. But if you choose not to, just

19 do it with courtesy. If you choose to answer a

20 question, remember that you're answering for your

21 fellow members of the jury. And your response

22 should take into account your courtesy to them.

23 And the manner in which you conduct yourselves as

24 jurors does have a bearing on all future juries,

25 because your responses get incorporated into the


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1 whole realm of jury service, so please keep that in

2 mind.

3 I want to thank the attorneys and Mr. Buczek

4 for the professional manner in which they have

5 conducted themselves during the course of this

6 trial. I hope you are satisfied with the system,

7 and we won't see you for a good long time, because

8 you fulfilled your obligation as jurors, but I

9 think you have a more expansive knowledge now of

10 what goes into the system. This was a

11 comparatively short case. Sometimes probably

12 seemed long, but cases can go on for weeks and

13 months and sometimes more than a year. I mean, you

14 can imagine what kind of an experience that is.

15 But I hope you feel good about what you

16 contributed. We certainly do.

17 I want to thank the court security officers for

18 and my staff for contributing as well. We thank

19 you. Please have a safe trip home. Thank you for

20 your service, and any of you that want to stay for

21 a few minutes, I'll see you in five or ten minutes.

22 Thank you very much.

23 (Jury excused from the courtroom.)

24 THE COURT: Okay. I thank all of you. I

25 wanted to thank you in front of the jury, because I


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1 think you did comport yourselves with the highest

2 degree of professionalism.

3 Anything from the government?

4 MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, your Honor. At this

5 time the government moves to ask the Court to

6 detain the defendant pursuant to Title 18, United

7 States Code, Section 3143(a), your Honor. The

8 defendant -- (a)(1) actually. The defendant has

9 been convicted not only of the substantive offense

10 in Count I of the indictment, but also Count II,

11 your Honor, having committed that offense while

12 he's on pretrial release. At this point, your

13 Honor, while we don't enjoy a presumption based on

14 the nature of the charge, we do ask that the

15 defendant be remanded pending further proceedings,

16 not only with respect to this case, but also the

17 two other trials that are currently scheduled

18 before this Court.

19 While the defendant enjoys a presumption of

20 innocence with respect to those, your Honor, at

21 least as to the, as I understand it, the third

22 trial, it's similar sort of conduct in that it

23 relates to the defendant's -- at least the charges

24 in that case relate to the defendant's failure to

25 abide by conditions of release. That occurred not


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1 only in this instance, your Honor, but also in that

2 while he had not been convicted. So at this point,

3 your Honor, we ask the Court to remand him.

4 THE COURT: Okay.

5 MR. BUCZEK: Judge I --

6 THE COURT: Go ahead.

7 MR. BUCZEK: I think you already know what

8 I'm going to say.

9 THE COURT: I don't really, but I'll give

10 you the opportunity, Mr. Buczek.

11 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, in this particular

12 case that we just had -- actually now it's been two

13 cases -- there's been no injured party, there's

14 been no damaged party I should say. The alleged

15 debt I believe was $8,800, which the defendant

16 believes was paid for under a bonded promissory

17 note. Maybe it was misguided from other seminars

18 that have taken place. In past the Court has

19 released people on issues like this for issues

20 concerning in the millions of dollars, if I am

21 correct on that, pending sentencing. I've never

22 missed a court date. I bet you I've been to about

23 a hundred court dates in the last five years. Here

24 probably 40 times in the last two years. Never

25 once have I missed a court date. I am preparing


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1 for my trial on April 4th, that's coming up,

2 in 2010, the passport case, and working on

3 subpoenas as we are talking right now. I'm also

4 preparing for eyewitnesses to come in and working

5 along with the public defender's office right here,

6 Brian. And I also want to just on and for the

7 record, Judge Schroeder already said on page 30

8 that I am not a threat to the United States

9 government at all. And that's on page 30

10 August 20th, 2009, line 21, that he says that. I'm

11 not about to bring down the United States

12 government, that's my finding ending at line 23. I

13 have a copy of that, Judge, and I won't get into

14 deeper into that, but --

15 THE COURT: Well, let me put this aside.

16 MR. BUCZEK: Yes, Judge.

17 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Comerford,

18 anything more you want to say on that?

19 MR. COMERFORD: No, your Honor.

20 THE COURT: Okay. All right. Mr. Buczek,

21 I mean, I've considered the government's argument,

22 I've considered yours. I don't consider you to be

23 a risk of flight or a threat to the government. I

24 will continue you on the release conditions that

25 you're on right now. I think in part it's


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1 necessary to enable you to adequately prepare for

2 your upcoming trials, and -- however, you will have

3 reporting requirements to make sure that everything

4 remains copacetic, and I'm giving you the benefit

5 under the circumstances, and I believe that you

6 have satisfied me and the burden requirement that

7 you are not a risk of flight or harm.

8 MR. BUCZEK: And I just want to make a

9 record that I strongly, strongly, strongly urge the

10 Court to do -- I think it's called a mistrial.

11 I'll reserve it for another time. And I am -- I

12 am -- I can't begin to tell you how -- and I don't

13 want to make it -- be emotional about it, not only

14 am I innocent, but maybe possibly I was misguided

15 in my administrative work. Should that be a crime,

16 Judge, with no injured party? Because in my mind

17 you know I don't have no intent. Maybe you might

18 understand, maybe the government understands, but

19 there's definitely no intent. Thank you.

20 THE COURT: Okay. Check with

21 Mr. Comerford about the Rule 29 and Rule 33 motion.

22 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you, Judge.

23 THE COURT: Okay. But your record -- the

24 record will so reflect that.

25 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you.


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1 THE COURT: Okay. What do we have to set

2 datewise, anything?

3 THE CLERK: You would have to set a

4 sentencing date. I was going to suggest the

5 next -- the final pretrial is for the 15th of March

6 that we discuss it then.

7 THE COURT: Okay. We'll do that on the

8 15th.

9 MR. BRUCE: I was just going to suggest,

10 Judge, we adjourn sentencing date until after the

11 second trials.

12 THE COURT: Let's talk about that again.

13 I think that's probably a good suggestion, but

14 we'll talk about it on the 15th.

15 MR. COMERFORD: We agree it's a good

16 suggestion, Judge, and we'll take it up then.

17 THE COURT: Again I thank all of you, and

18 then we'll proceed forward.

19 MR. BUCZEK: Are we still on for

20 April 4th?

21 MR. BRUCE: I thought it was the 6th.

22 THE CLERK: April 6th.

23 THE COURT: 5th is the final conference

24 and 6th is the trial date, right? I think the

25 6th is the trial. Okay.


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1 MR. BUCZEK: That's enough. I don't want

2 to hold you up anymore. I would like to talk to

3 you, but, you know, I wish I could, but --

4 THE COURT: But the rules. So, you know,

5 live by the rules. But be careful. You're on

6 release. There are specific conditions. Review

7 the release conditions with the probation office

8 just to reinforce them so that, you know, we don't

9 wind up with more problems than we need.

10 MR. BUCZEK: Judge, there won't be any

11 problems. It's just that I have a certain belief

12 system that I'm not a U.S. citizen. I will save it

13 for later. I didn't have the opportunity to

14 reflect on that during the trial.

15 THE COURT: Okay. All right.

16 MR. BUCZEK: Thank you.

17 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

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