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ÅLÖ AB 2012-01
LCS Troubleshooting Manual
ÅLÖ AB 2 2012-01
LCS Troubleshooting Manual
TABLE OF CONTENT
No function ............................................................................................................................................................. 4
No pressure ............................................................................................................................................................. 5
No or poor LS pressure............................................................................................................................................ 5
No or poor servo pressure ...................................................................................................................................... 6
Low working pressure ............................................................................................................................................. 7
Low pressure boom lowering function ................................................................................................................... 7
Low pressure tilt out function ................................................................................................................................. 7
Low lift power ......................................................................................................................................................... 8
High oil temperature ............................................................................................................................................... 8
Tractor hydraulic functions out of order, loader valve works................................................................................. 8
Hydraulic pump stay on load, LS valve .................................................................................................................... 9
Hydraulic pump stay on load, OC valve................................................................................................................. 10
Sticking/leaking PWM solenoid valve ................................................................................................................... 11
Lowering movement stops after some seconds ................................................................................................... 12
Float position does not work ................................................................................................................................ 12
Slow loader movement ......................................................................................................................................... 13
Components .......................................................................................................................................................... 14
Valve configuration ............................................................................................................................................... 21
Warning messages ................................................................................................................................................ 22
Error codes ............................................................................................................................................................ 23
Electric specification ............................................................................................................................................. 25
Connectors Master Unit ........................................................................................................................................ 26
Solenoids ............................................................................................................................................................... 26
Connector joystick................................................................................................................................................. 27
Connectors mechanical valve................................................................................................................................ 27
Hydraulic Diagram Open Center Valves ................................................................................................................ 28
Mechanical Control OC ..................................................................................................................................... 28
Mechanical Control OC –shock-valve A1........................................................................................................... 29
Electronic Control OC ........................................................................................................................................ 30
Electronic Control OC >2012-01 ........................................................................................................................ 31
Hydraulic Diagram Load Sensing Valves ................................................................................................................ 32
Mechanical Control LS ....................................................................................................................................... 32
Mechanical Control LS >2012-01....................................................................................................................... 33
Mechanical Control LS –shock-valve A1 ............................................................................................................ 34
Mechanical Control LS –shock-valve A1 >2012-01 ............................................................................................ 35
Electronic Control LS ......................................................................................................................................... 36
Electronic Control LS >2012-01 ......................................................................................................................... 37
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NO FUNCTION
1. Check:
a) Hydraulic oil level?
b) Correct oil type in the system?
c) Restriction in suction line (filter, strainer)?
d) Other hydraulic functions of the tractor ok?
2. Check:
Electronic control: a) Error codes joystick and master unit? See chapter Error codes
If present, repair and test system again, ok?
b) Power and ground supply to master unit ok? Connector pins, see chapter
Connectors on Master Unit
3. Check:
Load Sensing valve: a) Activate tractor remote hydraulics at the same time as the loader, does the
LCS system respond?
Yes) Go to chapter No or Poor LS Pressure
No) Go to chapter No Pressure
Open Center valve: c) Measure pressure at the P port of the valve, ok?
(not serial connected) Yes) Go to step 3b
No) Check pressure supply from tractor for blockage or leakage. Repair
accordingly.
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NO PRESSURE
2. Check:
a) Measure pressure at P port of the valve, pressure as specified by the tractor manufacturer
b) Check pressure line installation and hydraulic pump/control of the tractor for blockages.
Repair accordingly.
NO OR POOR LS PRESSURE
2. Check:
Measure LS pressure at the LS port while operating the loader, is there any pressure?
Yes) Go to step 3
No) Go to chapter No Pressure
3. Check:
Check LS line and shuttle valves between pump regulator and LCS valve for restrictions and/or
internal/external leakage.
4. Check:
Signal pressure (LS) connection to tractor LS circuit correct? Refer to tractor technical manual.
6. Check:
Dismantle center LS spool valve. See figure 1
Inspect LS spool valve for loose, missing or broken parts, ok?
Replace LS spool valve. Test the system again, ok
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2. Check:
a) Connect a pressure gauge to port Pf, See figure 13.
Start the tractor engine, activate tractor remote hydraulics, measure the pressure, setting 25-28bar.
Servo pressure ok?
Yes) Electronic error, see chapter Error codes
No) Go to step 3
3. Check:
Load Sensing valve: a) Activate tractor remote hydraulics, does the servo pressure increase?
Yes) Go to chapter No Function step 4
No) Go to step 4
Open Center valve: b) Activate tractor remote hydraulics, does the servo pressure increase?
(serial connected) Yes) Go to chapter No Function step 4
No) Go to step 4
c) Dismantle and inspect shunt valve. See figure 2
d) Dismantle and inspect LS triggering check valve. See figure 6
Test the system again, ok?
Open Center valve: e) Measure pressure at the P port of the valve, ok?
(not serial connected) Yes) Go to step 3b
No) Check pressure supply from tractor for blockage or leakage. Repair
accordingly.
4. Check:
a) Dismantle and inspect all PWM solenoid valves for damages, torn o-rings etc. See figure 11
Test the system again, ok?
b) Dismantle and inspect accumulator piston for damages, torn o-rings etc. See figure 10
Test the system again, ok?
c) Dismantle and inspect servo pressure reducing valve for damages, ok?
Replace servo pressure reducing valve.
Test the system again, ok?
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2. Carry out a performance test of the tractors hydraulic pump, pressure/flow as specified by the
tractor manufacturer.
Repair or replace worn or broken parts. Test the system again, ok?
3. Measure pressure at the P port of the valve. Tractor engine speed high idle.
Load Sensing valve: Stroke a cylinder of the loader against mechanical stop and measure the
Pressure at the P port, see chapter Valve configuration.
Setting: 170bar+tractor standby pressure, refer to tractor specifications.
Check and correct tractor standby pressure if set too low.
Replace LS spool valve, see figure 1.
Open Center valve: Stroke a cylinder of the loader against mechanical stop and measure the
pressure at the P port, see chapter Valve configuration..
Setting: 190+-10bar at 60l/min. flow.
Replace OC shunt valve if set too low, see figure 2.
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Load Sensing valve: See chapter Hydraulic pump stay on load LS valve.
Open Center valve: See chapter Hydraulic pump stay on load OC valve.
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2. Check with the engine running at idle and no active loader functions:
Measure standby pressure at P port of the valve, pressure as specified by the tractor manufacturer.
Standby pressure ok?
Yes) Go to step 3
No) Go to step 4
3. Check:
Operate the loader several times (full cylinder stroke), does the standby pressure return to
normal after operation?
Yes) System normal.
No) Go to step 4
4. Check with the engine running at idle and no active loader functions:
Measure pressure at LS port of the valve?
0-2 bar: Check and correct the LS hydraulic system of the tractor.
>2 bar: Go to step 5
6.1 Electronic control: LS hose connected, engine at idle rpm, no loader functions active.
b) Connect a hose to port Pf and drain the servo pressure to a bucket, see figure 13.
Standby pressure ok?
Yes) Internal leakage in servo top component, see chapter
Sticking/leaking PWM valve and No or poor servo pressure, step 4
No) Go to step 7
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6.2 Mechanical control: LS hose connected, engine at idle rpm, no loader functions active.
7. a) Remove:
Electronic control: Master unit and servo top, see figure 14 and 15
Mechanical control: Cap over spool valves, see figure 16
b) Check:
Lift up and check bucket & boom spool valves and spring centering assy. for damages and seizures etc.
See figure 5
c) Check:
Dismantle regenerative LS signal check valve, use the threaded hole (M6) to lift up the valve. See figure 3
Inspect part for restrictions or damages.
2. Check with the engine running at idle and no active loader functions:
a) Measure standby pressure at P port of the valve, pressure as specified by the tractor manufacturer.
Standby pressure ok?
Yes) Go to step 3
No) Go to step 4
3. Check:
Operate the loader several times, does the standby pressure go to normal after operation.
Yes) System normal.
No) Go to step 4
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b) Connect a hose to port Pf and drain the servo pressure to a bucket, see figure 13.
Standby pressure ok?
Yes) Sticking solenoid valve, Go to chapter Sticking/leaking PWM solenoid
No) Go to step 5
5. a) Remove:
Electronic control: Master unit and servo top, see figure 14 and 15
Mechanical control: Cap over spool valves, see figure 16
b) Check:
Lift up and inspect spool valves for bucket & boom for damages and seizures etc. See figure 5
c) Check:
Dismantle regenerative LS signal check valve, use the threaded hole (M6) to lift up the valve. See figure 3
Check part for restrictions or damages.
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2. a) Remove:
Electronic control: Master unit and servo top, see figure 14 and 15
Mechanical control: Cap over spool valves, see figure 16
b) Check:
Lift up and inspect spool valves for bucket & boom for damages and seizures etc. See figure 5
c) Check:
Dismantle regenerative LS signal check valve, use the threaded hole (M6) to lift up the valve. See figure 3
Check part for restrictions or damages.
1. Check:
Mechanical control: Check spool movement, joystick, cables and adjustments?
Replace worn or broken parts. Test the system again, ok?
Electronic control: a) Make sure float position is activated, symbol will appear in display.
b) Measure servo pressure at port Pf with the tractor engine running,
setting 25-28bar?
Yes) Go to step 2
No) Go to chapter No or poor servo pressure
2. Measure the current to PWM solenoid valve B1 (boom) or A2 (bucket) with a suitable current clamp.
Connector pins, see chapter Connectors on Master Unit
Start the engine, operate float position, measure the current.
>1100mA: Go to step 3
<1100mA: Electronic problem, check master unit, harness and connectors.
Replace broken parts. Test the system again, ok?
3. Shift position between faulty PWM solenoid and another solenoid valve.
Start the engine, operate float position, ok?
Yes) Replace faulty PWM valve
No) Dismount spool valve, inspect spool valve, bore and spring etc. for
damages. Replace broken parts. Test the system again, ok?
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1. Check:
a) Hydraulic oil level?
b) Correct oil type in the system?
c) Restriction in suction line (filter, strainer)?
d) Other hydraulic functions of the tractor ok?
2. Check:
Electronic control: Turtle mode activated?
Error codes joystick and master unit? See chapter Error codes
If present, repair and test system again, ok?
Power and ground supply to master unit ok? Connector pins, see chapter
Connectors on Master Unit
3. Carry out a performance test of the tractors hydraulic pump, pressure/flow as specified by the tractor
manufacturer. Repair or replace worn or broken parts. Test the system again, ok?
4. Check:
Load Sensing valve: Run the engine at high idle rpm. Activate tractor remote hydraulics at the
same time as the loader, does the loader speed increase?
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COMPONENTS
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Ref. No function
Ref. No or poor servo pressure
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VALVE CONFIGURATION
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WARNING MESSAGES
Symbol Explanation
Control unit has detected voltage on implement lock valve output, without
hyd. lock previously activated.
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ERROR CODES
E_03 Only on Master Master doesnt have any Check harness between Master and
blinking communication with slave Slave.
Replace slave.
Replace Master.
E_04 Blinking Interference in CAN-
communikation.
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ELECTRIC SPECIFICATION
Power supply
System operating voltage 12,0-16,0 Volt DC
System fuse MINI FK1 15A
Max. System current 13A
PWM Solenoid
Type 3/2-Way Proportional Pressure Redusing Valve, 25 Bar, 12V
Resistance 5,0 Ohm (+-7% at 25 degrees C)
Operating current Loader operation: 500-950mA
Float: 1200-1500mA
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D
1 PWM 3A+
2 PWM 3A-
Live 3 (Option) 7 PWM 3B-
8 PWM 3B+
C
1 12V + (red)
2 VDD*
CAN/Supply 3 IGN (yellow)
Joystick 4 CAN H*
5 CAN L*
6 Pwr On*
* Joystick 7 GND*
8 12V GND (black)
rd
B
1 3 Service
th
2 4 Service
Multi Coupling 3 Suspension
7 Hyd. locking
8 GND
A
1 PWM A1+
2 PWM A1-
Solenoids 3 PWM A2+
4 PWM A2-
Ref. No function
Ref. Float position does not work 5 PWM B2-
Ref. Slow loader movement 6 PWM B2+
7 PWM A2-
8 PWM A2+
SOLENOIDS
A1 B2
A2
B1
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CONNECTOR JOYSTICK
CAN L
GND CAN H
PWR ON
(Active low)
VDD +12V
Not used
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MECHANICAL CONTROL OC
Part no.
10570112 10570112-18
10570114 10570114-18
10570040 10570040-18
10570046 10570046-18
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Part no.
10570113
10570115 10570115-18
10570141
10570147 10570147-18
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ELECTRONIC CONTROL OC
Part no.
10570116 10570116-18
10570118 10570118-18
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Part no.
10570150 10570150-18
10570153 10570153-18
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MECHANICAL CONTROL LS
Part no.
10570009 10570009-18
10570027 10570027-18
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Part no.
10570156 10570156-18
10570160 10570160-18
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Part no.
10570010 10570010-18
10570028 10570028-18
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Part no.
10570157 10570157-18
10570161 10570161-18
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ELECTRONIC CONTROL LS
Part no.
10570011 10570011-18
10570029 10570029-18
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Part no.
10570164 10570164-18
10570167 10570167-18
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