Introduction To Stanley Meyer’s Hydrogen Research

The Water Fuel Cell and Water Fuel Injection System

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Stan Meyer discovered a long list of ways to make hydrogen gas from tap water without electrolyte without
significant energy consumption. Meyer converted and drove a VW buggy on the gas for four years. He
reported that his 1.6 litre VW engine ran on just 7 liters of HHO a minute. Please note (in the research below)
that the hydrogen Stan produced and used to run his buggy was modified electrically to produce 3.15 times
more energy than gasoline by means of Stanley Meyer’s invention of the Gas
Processor.
My company, Powergate Technologies, LLC, has partnered with the researcher who
broke the code of Stanley Meyer’s patents. The fact is that Stanley Meyer, like a lot
of inventors, cloaked his discoveries and methods in obscure terminology (that he
made up to suit his purposes). He then used his terminology in his patent applications
to describe the processes and gave the translation ONLY to the patent examiners.
My partner has produced a prototype that works exactly like Stanley Meyer’s most advanced design. In the
process, certain parallel discoveries have expanded the import of Stanley Meyer’s discoveries. We can now
power a vehicle 100% on distilled water….but, that’s the tip of the iceberg. This technology is far more
powerful than even Stanley Meyer may have realized.

The hardware that Stanley Meyer created has been experimentally examined by Dr. Eugene Antonov, Dr.
Vladimir Dresyiannikov, Dr. Tibor Nagypal, Roy Azevedo, Peter Graneau, Charles Millet, Neal Graneau, Gary
Johnson, Rea O’Neill, Prof. Mike Laughton, Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin, Dr Keith Hindley, US military, US
Patent Office experts and the Pantent Office seconded experts by whom the claims have been established. The
basic Water Fuel Cell (WFC) was subjected to three years of testing. This raises the granted patents to the
level of independent, critical, scientific and engineering confirmation that the devices actually perform as
claimed.
My Comment: "Scientists, engineers and other pundits who claim that Stan Meyer’s process does not work
are agents against change who have a vested interest in maintaining the present status and profit structure."
Hydrogen: The Ideal Fuel For The Future
In one of Stan Meyers presentations he states the following goals:
1 - to produce the hydrogen economically from water
2 - adjust the rate of combustion
3 - being able to burn the hydrogen gas co-equal to fossil fuels.
4 - being able to transport it without spark ignition.
In order to solve the puzzle as a scientist you have to ask the right question.
How do we switch off the covalent bond of the water molecule and do it economically?
We need a way to switch off the bonds and not process the water molecule in any way. For every action there
is an equal and opposite reaction. So when the unlike atoms of the hydrogen atoms covalently link up to the
oxygen. Normally the oxygen atom has 8 protons and 8 electrons. But when the oxygen atom accepts the
negatively charged electron from the hydrogen atom there is an electrical imbalance. The oxygen atom still
has 8 protons but has 10 electrons, it shares 2 electrons with the hydrogen. The first orbit can have 2 electrons,
the next orbit can have up to 8. The oxygen is now in a balanced state while having 10 electrons. This gives
the hydrogen atom a positive electrical charge. this is how a microwave oven can heat up water, it swings the
molecule. The microwave oven creates a positive and a negative potential and oscillates the molecule. So the
molecule has opposite electrical charge Q and Q prime.
There is no electromagnetic field between the oxygen and the hydrogen atom. All we have to do is reverse the
electrolysis process. We don't pump amps into the water. All that is needed is an electrically polarized field. It
is known in Physics that Voltage does absolutely work!
P=U*I
Under coulombs law, and Newton's second law it should attract the opposite charge. All one needs to do is
setup opposite electrical charges and the positive field will be attracting the negative charge, the negative field
is repelling the negative charge. The positive field is repelling the positive charge and the positive field is
attracting the negative charge.
Faraday didn't discover it
When Stanley Meyer's patent office clerk realized it was a cold process they asked the infamous question:
"Why in the world did no one ever think about this?"
1 - The knowledge of water will come out of time of great trouble.
2 - Faraday didn't discover this process is because he used a relatively crude setup, he needed modern day
inventions to be able to do it.
2.1 - Faraday didn't have stainless steel (3 or 4) which is chemically inert to the process, it does not chemically
react to the hydrogen oxygen molecules.
2.2 - He didn't have the prior knowledge that water molecule takes on opposite electrical charges.
2.3 - He didn't have modern electronic circuit design to restrict amps and let voltage take over in a dead short
condition. There was no way to restrict amps in a dead short condition. The amperage continued to flow.
All he had to do was restrict the amps. To do this we had to overcome the electrical attraction force of the
water molecule and cause it to expand; we also had to change the time share rate of the electron. So now we
are switching off the bonds of ordinary natural water without processing any other materials and doing it
cheaply, ie. without consuming many watts. On the covalent switch off we are deflecting the negatively
charged electrons to the positive voltage field.
Here we are translating electrical stress to the particles inside the nucleus. The nucleus is spinning like a
gyroscopic, the stress causes it to slow down. When a electrically charged particle moves through an
electrostatic field its by product is electrical energy. The strength of the electrical field is directly related to the
speed of the electron. If we slow down the speed we can weaken the electromagnetic fields of the atoms.
There are 4 forces that affect the atom.
1 - electrical force
2 - electromagnetic force
3 - electrostatic force
4 - weak and strong nuclear force.
Voltage affects the other 3. If we continuate the electrical field of the atom we continuate all the other fields of
the atom. We can do this without consuming a great deal of power. The key is to use a voltage intensifier
circuit coil and a resonant cavity. Water being a dielectric liquid has 8 electrons in its L orbit; it won’t
exchange more. It imposes the movement of electrons 17.54 times greater than air.
We make a water capacitor and set it up in series between 2 resonant coils making a resonant charging choke.
We set up a pulse and amplify for example 12 volt pulses up to 20 000 volts.
As we pulse the coil we create a magnetic field in the coil which supposes the movement of the electron.
Because of inductive capacitance of the coil we now allow voltage to be applied to the resonant cavity and
restrict amperage flow by 90 degrees. We tune the pulse frequency into the dielectric frequency of
water causing amperage flows to go down to a minimum and Voltage will increase to infinity if the electrical
components will allow it to occur.
When we move a magnetic field though a coil of wire it dislodges the electron the furthest away. That electron
has an electromagnetic field and we are producing electricity!
To restrict the amperage we need a voltage intensifying circuit. This is basically a special transformer having
a primary and a secondary coil. The core is made out of stainless steel 403 fr, because of it's inductance
capacitance it allows us to restrict the amps and operate in a dead short position. The higher the voltage the
more hydrogen is produced.
Up to this point we are using voltage and stainless steel. Stanley Meyer then progressed to add laser energy to
take his discovery to a hydrogen fracturing technology. We raise the voltage to a stage where we pluck off the
electrons via an electron extraction circuit. When we pluck the electrons off the oxygen atoms, we have
negative charged particles floating around in the water. Here we go to the stage of mega hydrogen production.
We can’t go into atomic resonance by electricity alone.
Monatomic hydrogen is the secret to how Stanley Meyer could power his VW engine on just 7 liters a minute
of HHO.
Electrolysis is a self-destructing reaction that lasts about 5 to 10 min. When we continue to increase the
voltage we hit resonant action. We run hydrogen production for 5 seconds, we shut it off and we continue to
produce hydrogen for another 94 seconds. We thus produce 19 times as much hydrogen gas at the output as on
the input side of the system.
Stanley Meyer stated that we have to maintain the industrial base because we don't have the means to replace
it. We have to modify the system to permit it to be retrofitted onto existing technology. Hydrogen burns around
325 cm per second that is much too fast. Water is like a sponge; it will absorb gasses. It will absorb 17-19% of
ambient air. The bulk of which is made up out of non-combustible gasses. This can be used to maintain a burn
rate of 75 cm per second thus allow us to adjust the burn rate of the hydrogen gas. The gas can now be
modulated to match other combustible gasses or liquids all the way down to burning paper. The gas can even
be adjusted to replace natural gas and use it for cooking.
For vehicles, a simple way to moderate the burn rate is to introduce exhaust gas back into the intake.
Without using a spark back device it won’t be a safe reaction. However, when the gases come out of the
reaction the non-combustible gasses prevent the hydrogen atoms from coming together like in an atomic
hydrogen torch.
And it allows for a totally cool reaction.
We need to prevent melting the engine. To lower the temperature from 5000 degrees down to 200 or 300
degrees we take the non-combustible exhaust gases from the flame and recycle them back to the flame and
back to the generator.
Fact: Modern engines are designed to run on water without rust damage. Propagandists tell us that the
valves of the engine will be destroyed by running HHO. This is NOT TRUE. Late model vehicles have
extremely durable valves and valve seats. Oil temperatures are set to remain at levels that are hot
enough to remove all moisture from the lubrication system. At the worst, a vehicle owner may wish to
invest in a stainless steel muffler.
In 1980, Stan Meyer ran his 1.6 liter Volkswagen dune buggy on his water fuel cell.[1] Dr. Eugene Antonov
and Dr. Vladimir Dresyiannikov of the Plasma Institute, Ukrainian Institute of Energy Research; Dr. Tibor
Nagypal, Vienna; Roy Azevedo, Peter Graneau and Charles Millet from Northeastern University, Boston; Neal
Graneau, Kings College, London; Gary Johnson, Kansas State University; Rea O’Neill, Dublin Institute of
Technology; Professor Mike Laughton, Emeritus Professor at the Queen Mary university of London; Admiral
Sir Anthony Griffin of the British Navy; Dr Keith Hindley, a UK research chemist the US military and the US
patent office have experimentally verified Meyer's technology. Their mutual conclusion was that Meyer's cell,
produced far more hydrogen/oxygen mixture (Browns gas) than could have been expected by simple
electrolysis. Where normal water electrolysis requires the passage of current measured in amps, Meyer's cell
achieves the same effect in milliamps. Furthermore, Meyer's cell did not require the addition of an electrolyte
such as sulphuric acid to aid current conduction. According to the witnesses, the most startling aspect of the
Meyer cell was that it remained cold, even after hours of gas production.[2]
1993, a lecture was given at a UK symposium on the Impact of New Technology on the Marine Industries by
Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin [3] Griffin's most elaborate resume[4] includes but is by no means limited to:
chairman British Ship Builders, president of the Royal Institution of Naval Architects, chairman of governors
of Wellington College. His perseverance is referred to as legendary as was his interest in technological
developments.
Meyer earned US patents granted under Section 101. As,
1. his water fuel cell did not follow the established scientific understanding of electrolysis and
2. patents for basic electrolysis apparatus can not be granted Meyer was granted his patents only
after successful demonstration of the inventions to a patent review board.
Meyer's cell functions at high voltage, low current rather than the other way around. Construction is
unremarkable. The electrodes (excitor array) are made from SS tubes or parallel plates of stainless steel
formed in either flat or concentric topography. Gas production seems to vary as the inverse of the distance
between them; the patents suggest a spacing of 1.5 mm or less produces satisfactory results.
Meyer uses an external inductance which appears to resonate with the capacitance of the cell (pure water
apparently possesses a dielectric constant of about 5) to produce a parallel resonant circuit. This is excited by a
high power pulse generator or PWM that, together with the cell capacitance and a rectifier diode, forms
acharge pump circuit. High frequency pulses build a rising staircase of DC potential across the electrodes of
the cell until a point is reached where the water breaks down and prompts a momentary high current flow. A
current measuring circuit in the supply detects this breakdown and removes the pulse drive for a few cycles
allowing the water to "recover". This circuit automatically measures and optimizes the resonant condition
necessary to high output.
Research chemist Keith Hindley offers this description of a Meyer cell demonstration: "After a day of
presentations, the Griffin committee witnessed a number of important demonstration of the WFC" (water fuel
cell as named by the inventor).
A witness team of independent UK scientific observers testified that US inventor Stanley Meyer successfully
decomposed ordinary tap water into constituent elements through a combination of high, pulsed voltage using
an average current measured only in milliamps. Reported gas evolution was enough to sustain a hydrogen
/oxygen flame which instantly melted steel.
In contrast with normal high current electrolysis, the witnesses report the lack of any heating within the cell.
Meyer declines to release details that would allow scientists to duplicate and evaluate his "water fuel cell".
However, he has supplied enough detail to the US Patent Office to persuade them that he can substantiate his
'power-from-water' claims.
One demonstration cell was fitted with two parallel plate "excitors". Using tap water to fill the cell, the plates
generated gas at very low current levels --- no greater than a tenth of an amp on the ammeter, and claimed to
be milliamps by Meyer --- and this gas production increased steadily as the plates were moved closer together
and decreased as they were separated. The DC voltage appeared to be pulsed at tens of thousands of volts.
A second cell carried nine stainless steel double tube cell units and generated much more gas. A sequence of
photographs was taken showing gas production atmilliamp levels. When the voltage was turned up to its peak
value, the gas then poured off at a very impressive level.
"We did notice that the water at the top of the cell slowly became discolored with a pale cream and dark brown
precipitate, almost certainly the effects of the chlorine in the heavily chlorinated tap water on the stainless steel
tubes used as "excitors".
Stanley Meyer was demonstrating hydrogen gas production at milliamp and kilo volt levels.
"The most remarkable observation is that the WFC and all its metal pipework remained quite cold to the touch,
even after more than twenty minutes of operation. The splitting mechanism clearly evolves little heat in sharp
contrast to electrolysis where the electrolyte warms up quickly."
"The results appear to suggest efficient and controllable gas production that responds rapidly to demand and
yet is safe in operation. We clearly saw how increasing and decreasing the voltage is used to control gas
production. We saw how gas generation ceased and then began again instantly as the voltage driving circuit
was switched off and then on again."
"After hours of discussion between ourselves, we concluded that Stan Meyer did appear to have discovered an
entirely new method for splitting water which showed few of the characteristics of classical electrolysis.
Confirmation that his devices actually do work come from his collection of granted US patents on various
parts of the WFC system. Since they were granted under Section 101 by the US Patent Office, the hardware
involved in the patents has been examined experimentally by US Patent Office experts and their seconded
experts and all the claims have been established."
"The basic WFC was subjected to three years of testing. This raises the granted patents to the level of
independent, critical, scientific and engineering confirmation that the devices actually perform as claimed."
The practical demonstration of the Meyer cell appears substantially more convincing than the pseudo-
scientific jargon that has been used to explain it. The inventor himself talks about a distortion and polarization
of the water molecule resulting in the H:OH bonding tearing itself apart under the electrostatic potential
gradient, of a resonance within the molecule which amplifies the effect.
Apart from the copious hydrogen/oxygen gas evolution and the minimal temperature rise within the cell,
witnesses also report that water within the cell disappears rapidly, presumably into its component parts and as
an aerosol from the myriad of tiny bubbles breaking the surface of the cell.
Meyer claims to have run a converted VW on hydrogen/oxygen mixture for the last four years using a chain of
six cylindrical cells. He also claims that photon stimulation of the reactor space by optical fibre piped laser
light increases gas production. This device is called the Gas Processor.
The inventor is a protegee' of the Advanced Energy Institute.
The Gas processor (GP) is the most important part of Stanley Meyers whole system coupled with
the Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC) and the Lazar energy input, for without these you can have no
Hydrogen Fracturing Process. The purpose of the Gas Processor is to raise the energy content of the whole
reaction by stripping electrons from the incoming air supply by a corona discharge (Ion impact charging of the
atoms). The GP is made to focus on the Oxygen atoms in that the LEDs coherent light is chosen to match
oxygen’s wave lengths and are used to bombard the oxygen atoms at the right wavelengths so the energy will
be absorbed by the atoms. This Laser energy in effect lowers the energy required to pull off electrons from the
oxygen atoms by pushing the electrons to a higher orbit thus farther away from the nucleus weakening their
bond and making it easier to remove the electrons in the process. The pulsing of the EEC is 180 degrees from
that of the GP. The pulsing of the LEDs should be done in a lasing fashion and is independent of the GP &
EEC pulsing. The LEDs pulsing should be done so the mirror bounce back is timed and another pulse is added
to amplify the LEDs phonic energy a process known as lasing. Here are the ionization energy levels of
oxygen:
• 1st 1313.9 kJ/mol
• 2nd 3388.3 kJ/mol
• 3rd 5300.5 kJ/mol
• 4th 7469.2 kJ/mol
• 5th 10909.5 kJ/mol
• 6th 13326.5 kJ/mol
• 7th 71330.0 kJ/mol
• 8th 84078.0 kJ/mol

Now let us take a look at the reaction to break and form the water molecule under normal conditions.
4 H-O 459 kJ/mol bonds are broken taking 1836 kJ/mol to do so.
2 H-H 436 kJ/mol bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 498 kJ/mol are formed yielding -1370 kJ/mol.
This is why all scientist say it takes more energy to break the bonds of water than you get from combining
them, for the net sum of the reaction is positive, 1836-1370 = 466 kJ/mol, meaning it is an endothermic
reaction.
Now the new reactions after the GP and WFI's have stripped the electrons off of the oxygen and hydrogen
atoms to form the water molecules have two parts to them, one chemical, and the other nuclear. Let’s take a
look at the 1st energy level of 1313.9 kJ/mol and 1312.0 kJ/mol respectively.
The chemical side yields: 2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 498 kJ/mol = -1370 kJ/mol and the
nuclear side yields 2(1312.0) + 1(1313.9) = -3937.9 kJ/mol. These two add up to 3937.9 + 1370.0 = -5307.9
kJ/mol now this is then divided by 1.34 and that gives us -3961.1 kJ/mol being given off from Meyer's
hydrogen fracturing process with one electron being stripped from all the atoms. Now this is lower than
gasoline which as a range from -4864 kJ/mol to -5080 kJ/mol depending on grade used.
Stanley Meyer said he stripped four electrons or more off of the oxygen atoms so let us take a look at the
reactions as told to us in the patent.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level is as follows:
The chemical side yields: 2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 498 kJ/mol = -1370 kJ/mol and the
nuclear side yields 2(1312.0) + 1(1313.9 + 3388.3 + 5300.5 + 7469.2 ) = -20095.9 kJ/mol. These two add up
to 20095.9 + 1370.0 = -21465.9 kJ/mol now this is then divided by 1.34 and that gives us -16019.3 kJ/mol
being given off from Meyer's hydrogen fracturing process with one electron being stripped from the hydrogen
atoms and four being stripped from the oxygen atoms. Note that is 3.15 times larger than gasoline.
Now this is more than 3.15 times the energy content of that of gasoline, and gives a most probable answer to
the question of, "How did Stanley Meyer run his 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.?"
For you still have more electrons that can be stripped off. So the net effect of stripping off electrons from the
oxygen & hydrogen atoms changed the reaction from an endothermic reaction to a exothermic reaction and the
process of stripping electrons didn't take that much energy as everything was done in a resonance condition
using two or more forms of energy that all sums together to do the work working together of stripping the
electrons from the atoms.
Another question some might have at this stage. "Why doesn’t the GP make Ozone?" That is the job of the
Electron Extraction Circuit(EEC). The gas speeds inside of the GP and the proximity to the EEC’s positive
screen mesh grid doesn’t give the freshly stripped electrons a chance to form ozone by consuming them in the
form of heat. The unstable oxygen atoms will have a positive charge and will be unable to stabilize for at least
0.74 seconds. That may sound like a short time but the gas speeds inside of an engines intake system are very
fast. What the gas speeds are I will leave for the reader to calculate. Without the EEC the GP will only produce
mostly ozone, though ozone does have a higher energy content than normal oxygen atoms it also will oxidize
just about anything it comes into contact with.

Now this may be the relationship between the two forms of energy, now remind you this is a guess as it may
be far more complex than this.

b=c-a

a = Lazar energy absorbed, b = energy put into the voltage zones, and c = energy required to remove an
electron or breakdown a molecule. Most c's are known to us for we know it takes 1836 kJ/mol of energy to
breakdown the water molecule and we also know the energy needed to eject an electron from an atom as is the
case for oxygens ionization energy levels for example, 1st energy level requires 1313.9 kJ/mol of energy to
remove an electron from the oxygen atom.
Now with this new relationship we can lower the energy requirements to do the job. If a = 0 then b = c and
everything is as normal. If b = 0 then we call that photo ionization and the amount of energy that has to be
absorbed by the atoms/molecules is equal to c. Now when the two forms of energy are put together we get
Meyer's technology. Again it may be more complex than that but it does show a working relationship for just
what Stanley Meyer was doing.
As I said it might be more complexed than that and I was right. The types of energy working on this are,
Electrical(b), Light(a), Gravitational(d), Heat(e). So to add these in to the above equation we get this:

b = c - (a + d + e)

and perhaps the others can be added in at the reaction side of the equation not shown, since Meyer says we get
thermal explosive energy. Gravitational energy is the pressure and the engine relieves this pressure by creating
a vacuum. The Steam Resonator creates the heat as well as the fuel after the engine warms up. But when using
all of these different types of energy they work together to do work in the case for Stanley Meyer to pull
electrons from atoms and to break down molecules, ie the water and NOx molecules as he made two gas
processors one on the intake system and the other in the place of the catalytic converter.
Why would Meyers use a GP in place of the catalytic converter on modern engines?
Answer:
Because he recycles the engine exhaust back into the combustion chamber along with the processed intake air.
The GP renders the intake air unstable making it possible to combust water in the combustion chamber.
So that is how he did it. Using the energies together to get the tasks he wanted done. This effectively lowers
the energy required for the electrical input to the voltage zone(s) to strip the electrons away from the atoms.
And using these different energies in this way opens up a whole new field of science. This all still follows the
conservation of energy and that is music to my ears.

Now when I look at the reaction side of the equation, IE, horsepower measured at the wheels, the reaction
involved should look like this:

f + g + h = total HP at the wheels

Chemical(f), Stored Mechanical(g), and Nuclear(h). Chemical is the easy one for that is just 4H + O2 =>
2H2O, Stored Mechanical comes from the engines flywheel, and the new one, Nuclear, comes from the atoms
now being in an unstable state.
Now the reason I say Nuclear is due to Meyer's lecture videos primarily the New Zealand one. He states that
he is preventing the water molecule from forming, but just what is that doing and how it is being done? The
hydrogen is missing one electron and the oxygen is missing four, now due to the electro negativity the oxygen
atoms will have first pic at getting any electrons. When the unstable atoms go to form the water molecule they
can not do so until all of the electrons are present.
Thus when they go to form the water molecule the hydrogen atom has to make electrons from it's nucleus,
reason why I point at Nuclear energy, but the oxygen atom takes the electron as soon as it is made to fill in it's
missing electrons, and the process repeats until all the electrons are created from the nucleus of the hydrogen
atom giving off the same amount of energy it took to strip the electrons off in the first place.
Meyer says that energy is coming from the aperture, but in keeping with science it's a good bet it's coming
from the nucleus, hence "thermal explosive energy." Anyway that is just my idea of how it is all working.

Quote:
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionization
Non-sequential ionization

When the fact that the electric field of light is an alternating electric field is combined with tunnel ionization,
the phenomenon of non-sequential ionization emerges. An electron that tunnels out from an atom or molecule
may be sent right back in by the alternating field, at which point it can either recombine with the atom or
molecule and release any excess energy, or it also has the chance to further ionize the atom or molecule
through high energy collisions. This additional ionization is referred to as non-sequential ionization for two
reasons: one, there is no order to how the second electron is removed, and two, an atom or molecule with a +2
charge can be created straight from an atom or molecule with a neutral charge, so the integer charges are not
sequential. Non-sequential ionization is often studied at lower laser-field intensities, since most ionization
events are sequential when the ionization rate is high.
Now let us look at what is said in the patent: My words are in red.
Thermal Explosive Energy

Exposing the expelling "laser-primed" and "electrically charged" combustible gas ions (exiting from Gas
Resonant Cavity) to a thermal-spark or heat-zone causes thermal gas-ignition, releasing thermal explosive
energy (gmt) beyond the Gas-Flame Stage, as illustrated in Figure (1-19) as to (1-18). { What this is saying is
the mixture can be either spark or heat ignited to set off the reaction.}
Thermal Atomic interaction (gmt) is caused when the combustible gas ions (from water) fail to
unite or form a Covalent Link-up or Covalent Bond between the water molecule atoms. as
illustrated in Figure (1-19). The oxygen atom having less than four covalent electrons (Electron
Extraction Process) is unable to reach "Stable-State" (six to eight covalent electrons required) when the two
hydrogen atoms seek to form the water molecule during thermal gas ignition.
{ This is saying that Meyer stripped the oxygen atom to its' 4th ionization energy level of 7469.2 kJ/mol or
less than the 4th energy level. Why because the oxygen atom has six electrons in its' outer orbit.}
The absorbed Laser energy (Va. Vb and V c) weakens the "Electrical Bond" between the orbital
electrons and the nucleus of the atoms; while, at the same time, electrical attraction-force (qq'),
being stronger than "Normal" due to the lack of covalent electrons. "Locks Onto" and "Keeps" the
hydrogen electrons. These "abnormal" or "unstable" conditions cause the combustible gas ions to
over compensate and breakdown into thermal explosive energy (gmt).
{ What this part is saying is that these primed oxygen atoms have enough energy to break the water down and
re-react with them with more energy yield than just the hydrogen/oxygen reaction in air alone. Plus tells that
the phonic energy is also aiding the stripping of electrons from the oxygen atom.}
This Atomic Thermal Interaction between highly energized combustible gas ions is hereinafter called "The
Hydrogen Fracturing Process."
By simply attenuating or varying voltage amplitude in direct relationship to voltage pulse-rate
determines Atomic Power-Yield under controlled state. { This part is telling us that by simply raising/lowering
the voltage we can control the power output of the reaction, and he went and grouped terms again.}
Also in the patent:
The Hydrogen Fracturing Process dissociates the water molecule by way of voltage stimulation, ionizes the
combustible gases by electron ejection and, then, prevents the formation of the water molecule during thermal
gas ignition ... releasing thermal explosive energy beyond "normal" gas burning levels under the control
state ... and the atomic energy process is environmentally safe.
Abstract of WO9222679
An injector system comprising an improved method and apparatus useful in the production of
a hydrogen containing fuel gas from water in a process in which the dielectric property of water
and/or a mixture of water and other components determines a resonate condition that produces a
breakdown of the atomic bonding of atoms in the water molecule.
The injector delivers a mixture of water mist(1), ionized gases(2), and non-combustible gas(3) to a zone or
locus(5) within which the breakdown process leading to the release of elemental hydrogen from the water
molecules occurs.
{This is giving us the formula needed to break down water into its elemental forms hydrogen and oxygen with
just the Gas Processor, water fuel injector, and a spark ignition or high heat ignition from a high compression
type engine 16:1 compression ratio or higher. The need of the firestorm type spark plug is a must so that it
makes sure the reaction occurs, that would be considered the locus. That formula is: (charged) water mist,
ionized gases, noncombustible gas, and spark or heat ignition.}

The water fuel injectors

The water fuel injectors create micro-mini capacitors out of water by passing the atomized water mist through
a high voltage zone. After careful study of the water fuel injector I found out that the inside electrode is
surrounded by a column of air at 125 psi so the water mist never comes into direct contact with the outer
electrode.
How you get voltage to perform work is by physically changing the area, thus changing the charge surface
density. This is very important information to know when it comes to understanding how Stanley Meyer got
the some of the water mist to break down into hydrogen and oxygen. As the highly charged water mist mixes
with the unstable oxygen atoms and recirculated exhaust gases it evaporates, thus changing the surface area
allowing voltage to perform work on the water molecule. In a way he set a condition that caused the water
molecules to short circuit. This is made possible due to the properties of water being that water is a dielectric
liquid. Remember the relaxation time for water is є/σ< 10-6 seconds and for air є/σ> 10 seconds giving the
water plenty of time to evaporate while still retaining its induced image charges from the injectors high
voltage zone. The water mist is given a negative charge as a result.
We can take the diesel fuel injector from any modern diesel engine and manufacture it in stainless steel. With
but a few modifications we can convert any diesel engine to run 100% on water using the Stanley Meyer
discoveries and technologies.

Steam Resonator

The Steam Resonator’s job is to heat the water up to around 90 degrees C or more so that when the water is
injected into the engine in vacuum conditions it immediately turns into vapor ; (not steam), thus aiding the
water to evaporate faster, allowing voltage to perform work on the water molecules more readily. The Steam
Resonator works much the same as a microwave oven by making the water molecules dipoles switch back and
forth causing inter molecular friction.
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There are two types of VIC transformers
Taken from the SMTB:
Quote:
Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60) of Figure (3-22) (Memo WFC 422 DA) as to Figure (1-1)
(Memo WFC 420) and Voltage Intensifier Circuit (620) of Figure (7-1) are specifically designed to restrict
amp flow during Programmable Pulsing Operations (49a xxx 49n) but in different operational modes: (1) VIC
voltage circuit (60) utilizes copper wire-wrap to form Resonant Charging Chokes (56/62) of Figure (3-22) in
conjunction with Switching Diode (55) to encourage and make use of "Electron Bounce" phenomena (700) of
Figure (7-9) to help promote Step Charging Effect (628) of Figure (7-7) by preventing electrical discharge of
Resonant Cavity (140 - 170) since Blocking Diode functions as an "Open" switch during Pulse Off-time;
whereas, (2) VIC Voltage Enhancement Circuit (VIC - VB) (620) of Figure (7-1) incorporates the use of
stainless steel wirewrap coils (614/615) to accomplish the formation of unipolar gated pulse-wave (64a xxx T3
xxx64n) without experiencing "signal distortion" or "signal degradation" (preventing transformer ringing
during signal propagation) as elevated voltage levels ( - xx Vc- xx Vd - xx Vn) while allowing the reduction of
Capacitor-Gap (Cp) (616) of Figure (7-11) width spacing (57 of Figure 3-25 ~35 of Figure 6-2) (typically .060
- .010) respectively. as illustrated in Tubular Resonant Cavity (170) as to Taper Resonant Cavity (620) of
Figure (7-1).
Now it is clear that if the voltage zones are between 0.06-0.01 inches you need to use VIC number 2, if your
voltage zones are higher than this VIC number 1 will work for you. But the all copper VIC is really meant for
use with just the Gas Processor.
Now the VIC transformer creates its high voltages by way of reactive capacitance, XC1 • XC2 • XC3,…, •
XC42. These type of transformer do not make their high voltages like a typical step-up transformer does. All
of the bobbin cavities have to match in inductance with the primary coil’s inductance for the desired frequency
the user is aiming for. This way makes sure that all coils hit resonance at the same time. Since the primary has
the strongest magnetic field it leads the way for all other magnetic fields to add to its magnetic field strength.
The blocking diode stops the collapsing magnetic field from sending the voltage back to the secondary coil. It
also doubles the voltage in the capacitor to that of the supply voltage from the secondary. The chokes limit
current magnetically and also act as voltage multipliers the same way the secondary coil do. They also double
the frequencies to the capacitors so what every frequency you are planning for make sure to cut that in half
with designing your transformers. The current is out of phase by about 90 degrees lag time behind the voltage
and that further limits the current flow so there is no arcing between voltage zones. As a result there is almost
no signal degradation to the voltage zones.
Now the GP and EEC are the most important parts of Stanley Meyer’s patent for they can stand alone
and improve any fuels energy output.
If you understand all of this you can make the system any way you like for it does not have to be made the
way Stanley Meyer made it. Just follow the rules of what is needed to be done to make the reaction work. In
the most basic sense what was done here was to make a controlled change to the environment inside of the
intake system to one that is suitable for water combustion.
Now I am re-looking at this to see if I can add more to it. The breakdown voltage of water 1.23v@.01amps per
a 1 cm squared area.
So then if you have a cm by cm = .01 amps @1.23v then with a .5 inch diameter electrode 3 inches of overlap
coverage I get a minimum current of .31 amps and for my .625 electrodes I get .38 amps. Why does the
minimum amperage go up some of you might be asking, correct? It is due to the water molecules themselves
as with increased area you have more water molecule holding on to each other requiring more amps to break
them free. That also goes for the spacing between the plates. This is the design parameters for the VIC
transformers current output we need to stay under per electrode set so that voltage is allowed to take over.
Again the space gap information is needed so it will have to be done the hard way by us doing it for ourselves.
But that gives us a good design parameter for the VIC transformers with different size electrodes, now thats a
first, LOL. Since we know R = V/I and we know the voltage and current we want this becomes easy. Say for
what I want is 25000v/.38amp= 65.78k ohms of resistance total in the secondary side of the transformer. Now
if I go at only 5000v/.38amp= 13.16k ohms of resistance. So now we can see the effects of resistance on
Meyer's VIC transformers.
Adding this with the effect of the blocking diode we get twice the voltage at the same current draw so for the 5
kv one above, the potential difference will be 20 kv, why 20 kv and not 10 kv? They have a negative
component to them that we have to take the absolute value of the potential difference. So that means my next
VIC transformer has to have a resistance of 13.16k ohms to get the 20 kv I want in the water bath per electrode
set. I wish I knew how to calculate the bifilar action of amp reduction for that would take the total resistance
needed down. Now we have a way of determining the resistance needed in the VIC transformer to match the
electrode size or better said the capacitive load so that voltage is allowed to take over.
Now for a mild confirmation by using data Meyer gave in the patents. All I could find is information on the SS
wire of 11.6k ohms each coil thus totaling 23.2k ohms of resistance which is right in the ball park of what I
just cooked up above for we still have three more coils resistances to add in that Meyer never gave to add to
that value of 23.2k ohms. So it looks like I got it, huh? Asking questions and getting answers . Now I know
how to correctly design the VIC transformer completely and you do too . The multi-spooled figure 6-1 VIC
transformer takes more advantage of inductive amp inhibiting, but the other way Meyer shows he made them
will still do the job and it's a lot easier for you to do. We know have the math we need to tell just how much
resistance we need for the capacitive load. One VIC transformer per electrode set, something I haven't done
yet, LOL. I noticed that with the water injector set up also as the engines firing rate would put only one
injector to the figure 6-1 VIC transformer at a time.
Well, looks like we have the last part of the puzzle now, just got to get busy building it, LOL. Remember the
reactive capacitance must also be larger than the electrode set capacitance in order for the VIC transformer to
be able to change the capacitor effectively.

The role resistance plays in the VIC Matrix Circuit

The medium that goes into the WFC is water. Water, unlike air, has a very low breakdown voltage. The area of
the plates determine the amps needed to start the water molecules breaking down with normal electrolysis Dr.
Faraday style. This minimum amperage draw to start normal electrolysis is the maximum amperage one can
have coming out of their VIC transformer if water is to be used as a dielectric material being in direct contact
with both of the electrodes. If you plan your VIC transformer correctly with the right amount of resistance
built in it for the voltage level you wish to attain keeping the amperage below water's low break down
voltage/amps requirements for your electrode sets that will start normal electrolysis. Then you will start to
allow voltage to preform the work of breaking down the water molecules into their component atoms. For that
is the role resistance is playing inside of the VIC Matrix Circuit.

Now looking at this drawing we have to break down all of Stanley Meyer's words as to what they more than
likely mean in his mind:
Dual primary coil bidirectional wrapped = One bifilar coil cross wrapped two layers. For the only way to get
two primary coils is to have it be wrapped with bifilar wires, and the word bidirectional means cross wrapped.
Dual resonant coils means there are two layers of the bifilar wrapped coils. Depending on the use one layer,
the second, is made of copper, and the first layer is going to be copper for space gaps larger than .06 inches
and 430 SS wire for space gaps between .01-.06 inches.
To get all the coils to be the same inductances the wire sizes chosen is important. For there seems to be a mass
relationship as far as from what I have noticed.
The secondary can be up for debate as for being made from a single wire or a bifilar wire. I make mine from
bifilar wire as shown in figure 8-11 in the SMTB. In this no one has to follow me for I am mixing different
parts of Meyer's work.
When measuring the individual coils you only measure one wire and not a bifilar wire hooked up to go back
into itself. Also note that the first choke coil spot is for the pic up coil for the pll circuit all others for for the
chokes so you have all coils on one core. Also all coils are wrapped in the same direction so the magnetic
fields add to each other. In the all copper VIC the first and second chokes do not have a break in the wire. The
wire is run straight back and the second choke is wound right on top of the first choke.
When measuring these for matched inductances you have to make one of each bobbin for the number count
that will be on all bobbins for the coil measured. That way you get proper count for each coil set in it's bobbin
cavity. Let me know if that makes sense or not, okay? This is an simplified example of what we need to
accomplish with the VIC transformer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY

Best make a hard copy of these two pages as they really help in understanding some parts of Stanley Meyer's
work.
DC Tesla Coil design
DC Tesla Coil design
Just remember we are not using a rotor but a pulsing train.
In SMTB page 10-12 figure 10-5 Stanley Meyer shows he is using both negetive and positive potentials thus
doubling the voltage in the voltage zones of the water fuel injector and gas processor since it is not at zero
volts but one far positive and the other far negative. Gives even more understanding as to what the VIC
transformer is doing differently than other types of transformer configurations. By having a neggetive charge
pump as well as a positive one the voltage potential in the voltage zones are twice as much. So if you have 20k
volts you get a 40k potential differance in the voltage zones.

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Now this is the main reason no one has ever duplicated Stanley Meyer's work, for no one to the best of my
knowlege has ever wired it up right with concerns to the alternator and VIC transformer. Also the rotor is not
pulsed as again I see most doing with the alternator. The voltage going to the rotor is pure variable DC.
Another reason so many have failed is no EEC in use with the VIC transformer.
In the alternator version of Meyer's work the driving motor is connected to a PWM to control the RPM's of the
alternator thus it's frequency, once the correct RPM is found then the voltage is raised going to the rotor of the
alternator. With this set up the tubes have to be exactly alike or they will have different resonances thus
requiring different RPMs to reach resonance. That part is simular to Boyces set up for with his all the spacings
between the plates have to be exact if not those not correct will not have all that good production of hho.
Now figure 8-11

in the SMTB is a different animal and Meyer didn't wire it the best he could have for this is the way he should
have wired it: for what he was trying to do then.
I hope this helps everyone wanting to duplicate Meyer's alternator version of the hho production using the
alternator as an amp restrictor. Now in the figure 8-11 photo what you are seeing are three VIC transformers
wire together in a 3 phase set up for Meyer added six coils to the alternator, but each VIC set up is the same as
shown in the patents for one VIC transformer.
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Now this is an example of a three phase stator winding found in an alterntor.

Replace x,y,z with 1,2,3 and wire it up as I have shown above. That makes it one very long coil with one of the
coil groups going in the wrong direction for a magnetic amp restriction. Now the magnetic field rotates about
the stator field windings and notice how the rotor is constructed:
The finger poles are spots where the magnetic field intesity is the highest and where there is no pole the
magnetic field is very weak, more or less cut off. Now take a look at the way the primary coil is wrapped: You
will notice that the magnetic field has been simulated by Meyer's bidirectional wrap imitating the finger poles
of the rotor.
As this rotor rotates the magnetic field cuts through the coils of the stator windings inducing a voltage in them.
If you take out the trical diode it will not be able to charge and if you take out the main six diodes you will get
run away voltage spikes due to each coil having it's capacitive reactance multiply to the next coil, and so forth.
Meyer re-wired the alternator to take advantage of the capacitive reactance effects of the individual coils
acting as voltage multiplyers and gave them a whole lot more to multiply with by hooking all of the individual
coil groups in series.
It is important that everyone learn just how an alternator works to see just what Stanley Meyer did. And also to
see how he made changes to the transformer as he took out all of the moving parts. Also note all of the
individual coils have exactly the same inductances so the transformer will resonate all coils at the same time
when resonance is reached, this part is very important in that all of the bobbin spaces also must have the same
inductance for that very same reason.
I posted what I know about Stanley Meyer's work for all the world to have for isn't it about time someone did
something to help those at the bottom? :hearts:
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Hi Everyone,
In the video I learned that the WFC used when Meyer was using the gaseous type system to run the buggy
each of the individual tubes has it's very own VIC circuitry as can be seen here:

For the WFC has ten tubes in it and there are ten VIC circuits shown to control the system. Why, you might be
wondering is it needed to have each tube have it's very own VIC transformer? For me the answer is simple, if
you try and make one VIC transformer run more than one tube each tube must match perfectly in capacitance
for all of the tubes connected to the the VIC transformer to resonate at the same frequency. Hence the slits cut
in the tubes of the Alternator driven WFC with nine tube having these slits cut into the tubes. The slits are to
match each tube perfectly to each other so that they are hit resonance at the same frequency. In the 1st video
when he shows the old WFC you can see if that not all the slits are cut to the same length, one has no slits in it
at all. It's just like balancing an engines connecting rods, the one with the least weight doesn't get ground on at
all and all the other heavier rods get ground down to match the lightest rods weight.
This is just one of the many reason Stanley Meyer switched to the direct water injection system as each
injector is being fired at a different time thus only one VIC transformer and circuitry could do the job. Now if
you get an engine where it has timing overlaps then you have to make more than one VIC transformer to run
the engine, say like a V10 or greater. Now in looking at the video in great detail I can see no separate
chambers in the water injectors, in fact I can see no electrical isolation from the spark plug wires coming from
the distributer to the spark plugs at all, so the modified distributer must some how isolate the two from each
other in some way, perhaps an air gap like in the Tesla coils was used and the rotor had two separate leads
going to two differently lengthened connections. Or there is no connection at all and the Gas Processor's
ionized air is breaking down the fine fog like water mist being injected into the combustion chamber when the
spark plug is fired. For me only further testing will let me know the answer to those questions as I already
have a Gas Processor built.
Now in looking at the math of the process it is clear that the ionized air gases have enough energy to break
down the water molecule, they just need a spark to get the reaction started, and if it is in a diesel type engine
then the hydrogen would auto ignite when the rapidly compressed air reached 500 C and kick starts the
reaction between the ionized air gases and the fog like water vapor. The reason I call it "fog like" is the size of
the water droplets are just about the same as the water droplet size found in fog as spec'd out in the Canadian
patent on the water injectors. Temperature/pressure manipulation can also make this easier to achieve the fog
like water droplets size as I shown with my talks on the phase diagram of water with respect to this
technology.
Note I was wrong in my earlier guess with the 10 VIC transformer pic, but not by much as I didn't know it had
10 tubes in it, I only thought it had nine.

(minus the SS wire or the ss wire never existed)

Now on the VIC transformer shown in the video, the colors I think I have identified. Yellow/gold is the pic-up
coil, green is the secondary coil, blue is the primary coil, and the two red coils are the chokes. This is for
anyone still wanting to use the WFC for running a car or anything else with that type of set up, as the injector
now seem a whole lot less complex and cost effective.
Now again the slits seen in the tubes are to balance the system so they all hit resonance at the same frequency
and then can be driven to produce hydrogen and oxygen gas as a unit. Hope that furthers everyones
understanding a bit more,
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How Newman describes magnetism is just about correct. The reason no one can tell the position of an electron
is they assume it travels in an elliptical pattern when nothing in nature, and I mean nothing, travels in an
elliptical pattern. Not the planets, not the galaxies, not the universes, not even our very own moon. Now if you
add Newman's work with that of Viktor Schauberger's then you will get a complete picture of how it all really
works. The electrons travel in an egg shaped pattern. Now NASA found out the hard way that the planets do
not travel in an elliptical pattern by actually losing a satellite when they first tried to send one to orbit Mars.
But no one ever made the changes to our books that we teach our children and young adults with. As a results
of the left hand never talking to the right hand we live in a world of ignorance compounded by regurgitated
wrong-full teachings of the past. Basically that means most people never do anything except repeat the
mistakes of the past by quoting the mistaken teachers of the past.
Now with my work on water I think I have found out just why it is a compound unlike any other and why it
can do the amazing things it does. Here is a simple experiment that sheds some light on what I am talking
about and I will go over it for those who need a hand in understanding the concepts taking place in this video:
YouTube - Walter Lewin Makes a Battery out of Cans and Water Now the properties of water that make this
possible are as follows; Water being a polar molecule, water being a dielectric liquid, water being a
diamagnetic substance, and the most important of all, the self-ionization of water (also auto ionization of
water, and auto dissociation of water) is the chemical reaction in which two water molecules react to produce a
hydronium ion (H3O+) and a hydroxide ion (OH−): 2 H2O (l) H3O+ (aq) + OH− (aq).
Now you can repeat this experiment with any liquid on earth and if it doesn't have these characteristics it will
not produce lightning. These characteristics are what make life possible, along with some other characteristics
like cohesion and adhesion and others I didn't mention, and also it is how lightning storms truly work. Without
water we have nothing no life as we no it would exist.
To the average person, water is an ordinary substance often taken for granted. Even though the cause of these
unique and unusual properties is explainable at the atomic level, water is truly a remarkable substance.
The self-ionization of water (also auto ionization of water, and auto dissociation of water) is the chemical
reaction in which two water molecules react to produce a hydronium ion (H3O+) and a hydroxide ion (OH−):
2 H2O (l) H3O+ (aq) + OH− (aq). Now looking it to this with Meyer technology we see that the EEC takes the
electron from the hydroxide ion(OH-) since it is very close to the positive electrode in the water bath of the
WFC due to opposites attracts. This is also made possible due to waters being a dielectric liquid being able to
store a charge with a relaxation time of є/σ< 10-6 seconds. What this does is give time for water to hold a
charge for it(water) to complete the circuit of the EEC. This circuit completion upsets the natural equilibrium
of water H3O+ (aq) + OH- -e(EEC) => H3O+ (aq) + O (gas) plus H (gas) -e light(EEC) ==> H2O (aq) + 2H
(gas) + O (gas) -e Light(EEC) when the reaction reestablishes equilibrium. This is why it has to be an isolated
circuit for if there is a ground or greater negative to complete the circuit of the EEC it will do so and not upset
the balance of waters natural equilibrium.
This is the chemical reaction that is taking place inside of the WFC. And it all has to do with the self-
ionization property of water.
The water fuel injectors(WFI) do not work this way. It uses some of waters other abilities, diamagnetic,
dielectric, cohesion, relaxation time, and polar properties. First being that water is diamagnetic giving it the
ability to take on an image charge from an electrical field through induction. Second is it being a dielectric
liquid gives it the ability to hold the charge for a given amount of time (the relaxation time of water), thirdly is
the cohesion properties of water the voltage zone is set to be high enough to overcome these attractive forces
naturally found in water and every time the voltage limit is reached the water droplet splits into two smaller
water droplets dividing the voltage between them. But as long as it remains inside of the pulsating voltage
zone it will be recharged and the process repeats until a minimum volume is reached at that point if charged to
the limit of cohesion the water droplet simply breaks down into two parts hydrogen one part oxygen. Any
breaking down into it's basic elements that take place inside of the voltage zone will be subject to being
stripped of electrons in just the same fashion as the GP does. Now water is also set up to give a very small
droplet size with our understanding of the phase diagram of water. Water is placed under pressure at a high
temperature and injected into a area of low pressure which immediately turns the water into vapor droplets,
not steam. That gives a big head start of the job the WFI has to perform.
I was about to go over all of this at the "All About Circuits Forum" before I got banded. That should have been
something they should be able to understand if the know the basics of electricity and magnetism. The reason I
go over this is I want everyone to know there are two different ways in which Stanley Meyer used to break
down the water molecule. And I want everyone to have a true sense of the mechanisms involved with the two
different processes.
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One thing I am not sure people ever noticed about the VIC coil is that Stanley Meyer made two different types
that did different jobs.
Taken from the SMTB:
Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60) of Figure (3-22) (Memo WFC 422 DA) as to Figure (1-1)
(Memo WFC 420) and Voltage Intensifier Circuit (620) of Figure (7-1) are specifically designed to
restrict amp flow during Programmable Pulsing Operations (49a xxx 49n) but in different
operational modes: VIC voltage circuit (60) utilizes copper wire-wrap to form Resonant Charging
Chokes (56/62) of Figure (3-22) in conjunction with Switching Diode (55) to encourage and make
use of "Electron Bounce" phenomena (700) of Figure (7-9) to help promote Step Charging Effect
(628) of Figure (7-7) by preventing electrical discharge of Resonant Cavity (140 - 170) since
Blocking Diode functions as an "Open" switch during Pulse Off-time; whereas, VIC Voltage
Enhancement Circuit (VIC - VB) (620) of Figure (7-1) incorporates the use of stainless steel wirewrap
coils (614/615) to accomplish the formation of unipolar gated pulse-wave (64a xxx T3 xxx
64n) without experiencing "signal distortion" or "signal degradation" (preventing transformer
ringing during signal propagation) as elevated voltage levels ( - xx Vc- xx Vd - xx Vn) while
allowing the reduction of Capacitor-Gap (Cp) (616) of Figure (7-11) width spacing (57 of Figure 3-
25 ~35 of Figure 6-2) (typically .060 - .010) respectively. as illustrated in Tubular Resonant Cavity
(170) as to Taper Resonant Cavity (620) of Figure (7-1).
The RED is VIC transformer number one and the BLUE is transformer number 2. They are used for different
purposes. Transformer number one is made up of all copper wire, and transformer number two has 430FR SS
wire for the dual layer chokes.
Now for the Gas Processor we want what Stanley Meyer calls, "Electron Bounce phenomena," and that VIC is
made of all copper. These VIC transformers make their high voltages during switch off conditions or when the
magnetic field is terminated and not the normal way that step up transformers employ. There are 42 coils that
are going to make the high voltages by multipling each capcitive reactance to the next, Xc1 times Xc2
continuing the process on ending at Xc42 when the magnetic field is terminated. Why 42? The chokes are dual
layered so 14 x 3 = 42. And since all coils are bifilar that number might be higher.
In order for the VIC transformer to work its best all coils must work as one or that is too say hit resonance at
the same frequency. This can be done by varying the wire sizes in the bobbin cavities, since the primary will
have the strongest magnetic field the inductance of the individual bobbin cavities should be made to match the
primaries inductance. Now their is some debate as to match the series inductances of the secondary and
resonante chokes to the primaries inductance, so more testing needs to be done to confirm which is more
effecient.
Bi-directional wrap is making an X with the primary coils two layers or cross wrapped is another word for it.

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From: http://d4magnetics.com/page6/page6.html
Chapter 6
Interwinding Capacitance:
Interwinding capacitance or coupling capacitance (Cww) is the capacitance between the primary and
secondary windings of the coil. When the windings are wound tighter together by twisting to improve the
leakage inductance, then the coupling capacitance is increased.
Schematic:

Calculations:
Calculate the distance (d) between the bifilar wires wound on the core

Calculate wire diameter:

Example calculations are run using HPN wire insulation. Refer to Chapter 5 for TPN and QPN formulas.
Results should be acquired for all three types of wire insulation to insure the best isolation voltage between
windings.
dW = 0.127602 – 7.507e-3 (x) + 1.546e-4 (x2 ) –1.107e-6 (x3 )
dw = d (optimum- due to winding
variations)
EXAMPLE:
dw = 0.0043 in.
where: AWG = 39 HPN
Determine the length of wire on the core for each winding
The length of wire is the wire length of each turn around the toroid multiplied by the number of turns in the
winding.
L/T = [ (OD – ID) + 2H ]

Wire Length = lwire = L/T (N)

EXAMPLE:
L/T = [(0.115 – 0.067) + 2(0.095)] = 0.238 in/T.
Where: OD = 0.115 in. ID = 0.067 in.
H = 0.095 in. N = 26 turns
Wire Length = lwire = L/T (N) = 0.238 (26) = 6.188 in.

Calculate the surface area of the wire:

The surface area of the wire is one half of the wire circumference, which is that portion of the wire facing the
secondary winding wire surface, multiplied by the length of the winding wire.
Aw = [dw (π ) lwire ] / 2
EXAMPLE:
Aw = [(0.0043) (3.14159] / 2) (6.188) = 0.04189 in2

Calculate Coupling Capacitance

EXAMPLE:
(AIR*)

Cww = [0.224 (1.87) (0.04189) (6.188)] / 2 (0.0043) = 12.60 pf.

* The K factor is an estimated value based on the fact that the wire is coated with polyurethane (K=3.5) and
the wires are separated by air (K-1.0). The equivalent K factor is estimated as the geometric mean of these two
values, or:

( SILICONE BUFFER – K=3.5 )

Cww = [0.224 (3.5) (0.04189) (6.188)[ / 2 (0.0043) = 23.58 pf.
From: http://d4magnetics.com/page7/page7.html
Chapter 7
Distributed Capacitance
Distributed Capacitance is the summation of the turn-to-turn shunt capacitance of the same winding on a core.
Schematic:

Formulas and calculations:

To acquire an estimate of the distributed capacitance, it is necessary to determine the average distance between
the wires on the core. This is achieved by calculating the wire distances of the wire on the ID of the core (l1)
and the OD of the core (l2). Then use the average distance of these two figures.

Calculate the effective circumferences of the OD and the ID of the coil to the center of the wire.
The cover is considered to correctly calculate the distance between wires. A pad is included
by multiplying the result by 0.95.
C1 = 0.95 (IDcore – dw) (cover/360)
C2 = 0.95 (ODcore + dw) (cover/360)
Knowing the length of each circumference, the wire diameter of all the wires on the winding is subtracted
from this to leave the open distance between the wires. To determine the distance between two wires, this
distance for both the OD and the ID is divided by the total number of turns minus 1.
l1 = [C1 - (Np) (dw)] / (Np – 1)
l2 = [C2 - (Np) (dw)] / (Np – 1)

The average of these two results is now calculated.

Average distance = lt = (l1 + l2) / 2
Calculate the surface area of the wires facing each other on the coil.
The wire diameter of HPN wire is shown here:
Wire dia. = dw = 0.127602 – 7.507e-3 x + 1.546e-4 x2 – 1.107e-6 x3
The surface area of one half of the wire surface, that surface facing the other winding wire surface, for the
length of the winding wire.
Aw = [(OD – ID) + 2H] dw ( 1.5708 ) (NP)
Calculate Capacitance:
Cd = [(0.224 K Aw ) / lt ]
EXAMPLE:
Specifications:
Core OD = 0.115 in. Core ID = 0.067 in. Core H = 0.095 in.
Wire diameter = dw = 0.0043 in. (#39 HPN) Np = 26 turns
Coil cover = 410 degrees. K = 3.5
Calculate the circumferences of the OD and ID of the core with wire.
C1 = 0.95 (ID – dw) (π) (cover/360)
= 0.95 * (0.067 – 0.0043) * 3.14159 * (410/360) = 0.2129 in.
C2 = 0.95 (OD + dw) (π) (cover/360)
= 0.95 * (0.115 + 0.0043) * 3.14159 * (410/360) = 0.4052 in.
Calculate the distance between the wires:
l1 = [C1 – (Np * dw)] / (Np – 1)
= [ 0.2129 – ( 26 * 0.0043)] / ( 26 – 1) = 0.00403 in.
l2 = [C2 – (Np * dw)] / (Np – 1)
= [ 0.40502 – ( 26 * 0.0043 ) / ( 26 – 1 ) = 0.01172 in.
Calculate the average distance between wires:
lave = ( d1 + d2 ) / 2 = ( 0.00403 + 0.01172 ) / 2 = 0.00788 in.
Bifilar coil = 2 * d ave
Calculate the wire surface areas:
Aw = [ ( OD – ID ) + 2H ] dw ( π / 2 ) NP
= [( 0.115 – 0.067 ) + 2( 0.095 )] 0.0043(3.14159/2 ) 26 = 0.04189 in2
Calculate the turn-to-turn distributed capacitance:
Cp = [ 0.224 K Aw ] / l ave
= [ 0.224 (3.5 ) 0.04189 ( 25 )] / 0.00788 = 4.1681 pf.
The total distributed capacitance for the Bifilar coil:
Cd = 2 * Cp = 2 ( 4.1681 ) = 8.3362 pf.

Measuring Distributed Capacitance:

Because distributed capacity is difficult and very time consuming to accurately measure with conventional test
instruments, it is best to estimate it by the following methods. Some waveform analyzers can produce a fairly
accurate estimate of this parameter.

The analyzer using the Impedance adaptor test fixture is properly zeroed at the point of connection to the coil
by the standard instrument manufacturer’s instructions. Then the coil is connected to the fixture and the
instrument is set to the proper capacitance test mode setting.
Conventional test instrument method:

Test waveforms:
Because the schematic consists of the distributed capacitance in parallel with the open circuit inductance and
series leakage inductance, then the resonance of this circuit occurs when the impedance of the tank is at the
minimum. The resonance is determined by the peaking of the current at the minimum impedance frequency.
From the current waveform, there are two peaks present. The first is that of resonance with the OCL. This is
broad and of lower amplitude, The second peak is at a higher frequency and is sharp and of higher amplitude.
This is the one that the distributed capacitance is calculated from.
Knowing the value of the leakage inductance along with the frequency of the resonance, the distributed
capacitance is then calculated using the following formula. The OCL, open circuit inductance, is a low
frequency component and is not considered for the high frequency resonance created by the parasitics of
leakage inductance and distributed capacitance. Thus we use the following formula.

In the patent Meyer states that the capacitive reactance of the VIC transformer must be greater than the
capacitance of the capacitor it is going to be connected too.
Now I know this is going to make one guy I know very happy for he has been harping for the use of 430FR
wire for some time now. But in Stanley Meyer's end product there is no WFC so no use of the second
transformer. Stanley Meyer really cut the cost when he made the injectors, allowing the unstable oxygen atoms
to break the water molecule down, and that satisfies the law of economics. That saves a lot of money for there
is no more quenching circuit, electrostatic filter, water fuel capacitor, hybrid lazer distributer, and all the
electronics that went along with them. And I think I might have left some out, big savings = BIG:$:.
I hope this aids in everyone's understanding of the VIC transformers.
Quote:
So, the mesh grid doesn't make contact with the electrode. it just collects the free electrons, right?
I'm going with the gas processor not the WFC.
So the water mist needs to be laser injected and the non combustible gas should be ionized, correct?
I'm thinking of making one chamber for injecting light into the water and another for ionizing the non
combusibles and the electron extraction.
Am I headed in the right direction?
Can the water and the ambient air be processed in the same unit?
Sorry for all the questions. I just want to make sure I fully understand before I build a prototype.
When you speak of 125psi, is that pressure all created by the water pump or is there some kind of air pressure
needed?
Also should one of the chokes for the EEC be variable?
Thank you for the help!
Yes, you are correct with the EEC's mesh screen grid all it does it consume freshly stripped electons from the
Gas Processor. But the EEC has no choke coils. The variable choke coil you are looking at goes to the Gas
Processor, but this is Stanley Meyer older designs though the EEC didn't change the VIC transformer did. In
the end Stanley Meyer found it was best to match up the inductances of each bobbin cavities so each of the
bobbin caivity coils in the VIC transformer hit resonance all at the same time.
In this patent: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 -- Water Fule Injection System
Stanley Meyer shows how the injector system he used is set up. All the gases and the water have 125 psi of
presure and the ambent air gas from the outside air is primed prior to being injected through the water injector.
If you take a close look at the injector you will notice that the inside electrode has a wall of 125 psi air and
exhaust gases around it preventing the water from every coming into contact with electrode 8.
The part of the injector where the dielectric liquid(water) picks up it's image charge is 7a, 7b, and 8. Why
Stanley Meyer gave it two numbers when it is just one piece I have no idea for 7a and 7b are the same part.
And if you notice he switch the voltage zones having the outside be possitive and the inside be negetive. That
part can't be true for that would lead to a direct short as the injectors replace the engines existing spark plugs
and the head of the engine is grounded.
Figure 6 shows some sort of a pump control system or fuel distributer of sorts.
And in figure 2B the disc are shown take note that the ionized air gases come from disc 2a, the recirculated
exhause gases come from disc 3a, and the water mist comes from disc 1a.
Now the main reasoning for this design is to by pass any vehicals fuel system with a direct replacement system
that would allow the use of his systems on many different types of engines, but it is not the only way to do
this. If you obey the rules of mixing primed air gases, recirculated exhaust gases and water mist carrying a
very high voltage image charge into the combustion chamber you will get the same results. Stanley Meyer's
system just allowed the best way to retrofit the many different cars on the market today by fully bypassing the
existing fuel system that the vehical employs.
I don't mind being ask questions for not everyone thinks like I do. But mostly I like it when people use the
internet to solve their problems for it is a great teaching tool if used for that purpose. I solved this all by asking
the right questions and then answering those questions. I concider myself to be as normal as everyone else, but
I can't speak for everyone else on how they view this technology.

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Originally Posted by pmazz850
H2O, should we be using a tapered cavity or straight for the injector? I was reading over the patent an the
mention of the tapered cavity. Also the vic he describes with the stainless wire. So basically you constructed
your vic exactly as in that patent except you used copper wire? Is Stan describing a different process with the
tapered design or is it just a variation? The process seems similar but slightly different. As you know Stan can
be a little hard to understand. Can you shed some light on this for me?
The tapered injectors by design let the voltage perform work as the area of the voltage zones are decreasing as
the water passes through it. Now there are no drawings of the said taper injectors so you will have to make the
thing all from your own mind with the understanding of how it all works. If you have a space gap between
0.06-0.01 inches you need to use the SS wire. Then you have to get the capacitance of the injector you just
built so you can match up a VIC transformer to it at what ever frequency you plan to use on it. It has to be
done in that order, for I feel for the people that just build VIC transformers and then what it is going to be
hooked up to next. For that is acting without thinking and hopeing for a lot of luck that it resonates at a
frequency they can use. Things like that are supposed to be planned for before hand.
Now I am not doing things like Stanley Meyer did at all on this part, but I am obeying the rules of how to
make micro-capacitors out of water is all I will say. And note there are two types of VIC transformers Stanley
Meyer used. One is called the "VIC Voltage Circuit" and the other is called the "VIC Voltage Enhancement
Circuit." The ladder is used for space gaps between 0.06-0.01 inches on either WFI's or WFC's, and the former
is the all copper VIC transformer. I construct my VIC transformers to match what it is I will be hooking them
up too for a planned frequency I will be using. I can make the VIC transformers any way that I like for I
understand how they are to be built and I let everyone that has read this thread know how they are to be built. I
try to stay away from using SS wire for it is not cost effective so all of my designs are made/planned to use the
all copper VIC transformers. This way I keep everything cost effective for I am not rich by a long shot.
Hope that answers your questions,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zmazz650
I agree, stripping electrons makes it positive. Some good info I found on ionization.
The Basics of Air Ionization for High-Technology Manufacturing Applications
Also, I found someone that sells inline air ionizers!
Inline Ionizing Air Cells

Thanks everyone I guess I got lost in my own train of thought, was just going over chemistry values with the
naming of things. I went over the whole page you posted and learned some good information pmazz850,
thanks.

Quote:
Quote from: The Basics of Air Ionization for High-Technology Manufacturing Applications

Corona Ionization.
Corona ionizers use strong electric fields created by applying high voltage to a sharp ionizing point to move
the electrons. Due to the decay of trace radioactive elements in soil and air, a few free electrons are always
present in the atmosphere. Creation of a high positive electric field accelerates these electrons toward the
ionizing point. They collide with air molecules and knock out more electrons on the way, leaving behind many
molecules that have lost electrons and become positive ions in a high positive electric field. This field repels
them from the ionizing point, presumably toward the area where they are needed for charge neutralization.
Similarly, a negative electric field sends free electrons away from the ionizer point into collisions with gas
molecules that generate more free electrons that are captured by neutral gas molecules near the ionizing point.
The negative ions created are repelled by the negative electric field.5
Corona ionization generally does not provide the intrinsic balance of ion polarities that alpha ionization does.
Methods do exist, however, to ensure that closely matched quantities of positive and negative ions are
delivered to the work area despite differences in ion mobilities and ion production rates for each polarity. Also,
some ionizers include monitoring and feedback capabilities to provide adequate long-term stability of the ion
balance in the work area. Ion balance is important because an imbalance in the ionizer can induce voltages on
isolated conductors, an outcome just the opposite of that for which the ionizer’s use is intended.

Pulsed Dc Ionization.
Positive and negative high-voltage currents to the emitter points are alternately turned on and off in pulsed
systems, creating clouds of positive and negative ions that mix together in the work area. The result is a
dramatic lowering of the recombination rate. This allows ionizers to be placed on the ceilings of rooms 5 m
high or higher.
Pulsed dc ionizers are used in rooms with low airflow and are the most common type of ionizer employed in
cleanrooms and laminar-flow hoods. The advantage of this type of ionizer is its flexibility and versatility, as
cycle timing can be adjusted to the specific airflow conditions. Since the polarity of the ionizer output varies
with the cycle timing, a voltage swing is produced that must be limited in order to protect ESD-sensitive
devices.5
Now add in photon bombardment and the consuming of the negetive air ions is what the Gas Processor is
doing. Stanley Meyer varied the voltage swing independently of the pulse train given to the capacitive zones
or high voltage zones, however you want to think about it, to make more or less ionized air gases as needed.
And also in increasing the voltage you get a direct relationship between more ions being stripped off of the air
gases, Stanley Meyer's 4 or more statement. This gives clear thought to all that I have been saying about the
importance of the Gas Processor and electron extraction circuit and too the pulsing times of the LEDs coherent
light.
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This is what I get for gasoline:
(5080kJ/mol)(1gram/44.6kJ)(1L/800grams)(gal/3.785L)(30miles/gal)= 1.13 miles/mol.
It is only .0376gal. Also note I changed the energy content of gasoline to its real value 5300 kJ/mol was kinda
on the high side. That 5080 kJ/mol is for 91 octane gasoline or in our case in the US supper unleaded.
Now for hho:
(286 kJ/mol)(1g/15.89 kJ)(1L/1000g)(1gal/3.785L)= 0.00476gal/mol but we need 17.76 moles of hho to equal
the energy content of gasoline so then 17.76(.00476gal/mol)= .0845 gallons of water that will need to be
converted to travel the same distance.
Now with the GP/EEC plus atomized water:
(6505.2 kJ/mol)(1g/361.4 kJ)(1/1000)(1/3.785)= 0.00476gal/mol but now only .781 moles of the mixture is
need to equal the energy content of gasoline so then .781(.00476gal/mol)= 0.00371 gallons of water needs to
be atomized to go the same distance.
This is the power of the GP/EEC and note this is the worste case assuming no hydrogen is produced by the
injectors. If you produce hydrogen then add in 1836 kJ/mol minus the energy used to create the gas. Also the
numbers should be less for the energy to strip the oxygen atoms was not factored in nor was the energy to run
the injectors, but it does give a good ballpark figure we can work with.
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Now I was curious as to how this all holds up to Meyer's approximately 22 gallons of water used to go from
La, Ca., to Ny, NY (2,778 miles)and this is what I came up with:
It takes approximately 92.6 gallons of gasoline to go the distance.
hho approximately 208.2 gallons of water will have to be electrolized.
The Meyer mixture takes 9.2 gallons of water that will need to be atomized.
So this means the missing numbers have an effect on the amount of water needed to be atomized to go the
same distance for it should be around 22 gallons used or so. Again this is what the science I stumbled apon is
showing me when I looked into just what the Gas Processor in conjuction with the electron extraction circuit
was doing to the system as a whole.
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I will now go over the VIC transformer.
In this picture all that is shown is how many individual coils are there in the VIC transformer. You will note
that I changed the bobbin design for easyer winding since I have to do these by hand.
Now in following the rules all coils have to have the same inductances or as close as you can get to the same.
Reason, when the primary reaches resonance all the other coils will also reach resonance and when you go to
drive the transformer you will not have any of the coils out of resonance causing it to draw too much current
and burn up. I learned that the hard way.
Now looking at this drawing we have to break down all of Stanley Meyer's words as to what they more than
likely mean in his mind:
Dual primary coil bidirectional wrapped = One bifilar coil cross wrapped two layers. For the only way to get
two primary coils is to have it be wrapped with bifilar wires, and the word bidirectional means cross wrapped.
Dual resonante coils means there are two layers of the bifilar wrapped coils. Depending on the use one layer,
the second, is made of copper, and the first layer is going to be copper for space gaps larger than .06 inches
and 430 SS wire for space gaps between .01-.06 inches.
To get all the coils to be the same inductances the wire sizes chosen is important. For there seems to be a mass
relationship as far as from what I have noticed.
The secondary can be up for debate as for being made from a single wire or a bidirectional wire. I make mine
from bifilar wire as shown in figure 8-11 in the SMTB. In this no one has to follow me for I am mixing
different parts of Meyer's work.
When measureing the individual coils you only measure one wire and not a bifilar wire hooked up to go back
into itself. Also note that the first choke coil spot is for the pic up coil for the pll circuit all others for for the
chokes so you have all coils on one core. Also all coils are wrapped in the same direction so the magenetic
fields add to each other. In the all copper VIC the first and second chokes do not have a break in the wire. The
wire is run straight back and the second choke is wound right on top of the first choke.
When measuring these for matched inductances you have to make one of each bobbin for the number count
that will be on all bobbins for the coil measured. That way you get proper count for each coil set in it's bobbin
cavity. Let me know if that makes sense or not, okay?
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Now in my latest studies on water I found out water has a critical volume and also water has a memory. The
critical volume of water is 0.056 m^3 kmol^-1, it is at this volume while inside of the voltage zones of the
injectors water goes from being water to two parts hydrogen one part oxygen. As for the other property of
water having memory and all, I can recall Meyer saying something about thinking positive thoughts around
water. Maybe someone can help me out and find his words in the patent and put them in quotes for everyone
to read. For it seems the structure of water is effected by emotions and/or our collective and individual
thoughts. And water resets this memory when it phase shifts from ice to liquid and from vapor to liquid. That's
why rain water works so good in all of my electrolysis trails for it reset and the first emotions it got where
positive from me.
So it would seem Stanley Meyer understood some this as the water when being injected is made to go into
vapor form using the knowlegde of the phase diagram of water. If that is so he erased waters memory by
having it go from water to vapor form just prior to sending it through the voltage zones of the water injectors.
That was not possible with the WFC so with that system then the way one would feel would change the
reaction. So if you felt positive and happy the car would run excelent but if you felt mad and upset the car
would run like crap. The only one who could answer those thoughts would be Meyer himself since he is the
only one that spent a lot of time driving a car using water as it's source of fuel. Perhaps others like Dingel
could tell if this true, but his in jail for life and doesn't seems to be talking about the water for fuel technology
to anyone and I can't say that I blame him for he is going to die over this technology. Anyway I just thought I'd
let you all know a little bit more on the properties of water.
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You are right about one thing, the injectors are simple.
For what you are seeing is a typical Bosch CIS injection system, but this injector has three separate injectors in
one housing. The voltage zone is 7a/b and 8. Water goes in port 1 and comes out atomized at 1a where the
pressure difference will turn it into vapor being that it is hot/high pressure being injected into a hot/low
pressure zone. Then is passes through the pulsating high voltage zone and undergoes this process:
Once the droplets reaches the critical volume the next step is conversion to hydrogen and oxygen through
magnetic induction and voltage imposed on it by the image charge. This is a static voltage so not enough
amperage to cause it to blow up just split into it's component elements. 3 is the supply line for ionized air
gases exiting at 3a, and 2 (not shown) is for recirculated exhaust gases exiting at 2a. As you can see a wall of
air surrounds the atomized water droplets and push the water through the voltage zone. He also states the
water will not form into larger water droplets, this is due to it being charged with the same polarity, and we all
know opposites attract and likes repels, and every water droplet has the same polarity. The result is the Taylor
cone. Therefore, water adhesion characteristics are overcome this way and well as it's cohesion properties.
Quote:
In the injector, water mist (forming droplets in the range, for example, of from 10 to 250 microns and above,
with size being related to voltage intensity) is injected into fuel-mixing and polarizing zone by way of water
spray nozzles 1A1. The tendency of water to form a bead or droplet is a parameter related to droplet mist size
and voltage intensity. Ionized air gases and non-combustible gases, introduced through nozzles 2A1 and 3A1,
are intermixed with the expelling water mist to form a fuel-mixture which enters into voltage zone 6 where the
mixture is exposed to a pulsating, unipolar high intensity voltage field (typically 20,000 volts at 50 KHz or
above at the resonant condition in which current flow in the circuit [amps] is reduced to a minimum), created
between electrodes 7 and 8.

Furthermore Meyer says this:

Quote:
Laser energy prevents discharge of the ionized gases and provides additional energy input into the molecular
destabilization process that occurs at resonance. It is preferable that the ionized gases be subjected to laser
(photonic energy) activation in advance of the introduction of the gases into the zone(s); although, for
example, a fiber optic conduit may be useful to direct photonic energy directly into the zone. Heat generated
in the zone, however, may affect the operability of such an alternative configuration. The electrical
polarization of the water molecule and a resonant condition occurs to destabilize the molecular bonding of the
hydrogen and oxygen atoms. By spark ignition, combustion energy is released.
To ensure proper flame projection and subsequent flame stability, pumps for the ambient air, non-combustible
gas and water introduce these components to the injector under static pressure up to and beyond 126 psi.

This is saying that the spark plugs ignition system still functions as it normally did prior to the conversion.
Static pressure is how a CIS fuel system works and Meyer shows a fuel distributer here:
The fuel distributer works exactly the same as found in a CIS fuel system: Bosch Fuel Injection Systems -
Bosch K-Jetronic and here: Auto-Solve Diagnostic Assistance. Take the time to familiarize yourself with this
fuel system as it is the same as the one Meyer employed.
Now can you see what I meant when I said to move your voltage zone, for Meyer's voltage zone is just after
the atomization disk in the injection system. It is this small voltage zone that splits the water molecule into
hydrogen and oxygen on demand. More energy is added in with the ionized air gases, and the reaction rate of
combustion is control by the recirculated exhaust gases. This is far simpler than the Water Fuel Cell's mode of
operation.
Which is why I made this thread in the first place to talk about the WFI's working systems, popular demand
made me talk about the Water Fuel Cell.
Now this part is very interesting for it says that the injectors also work as the gas processor in ejecting atoms
prior to combustion from the resulting mixture:
Quote:
In the voltage zone several functions occur simultaneously to initiate and trigger thermal energy yield. Water
mist droplets are exposed to high intensity pulsating voltage fields in accordance with an electrical
polarization process that separates the atoms of the water molecule and causes the atoms to experience
electron ejection. The polar nature of the water molecule which facilitates the formation of minute droplets in
the mist appears to cause a relationship between the droplet size and the voltage required to effect the process,
i.e., the greater the droplet size, the higher the voltage required. The liberated atoms of the water molecule
interact with laser primed ionized ambient air gases to cause a highly energized and destabilized mass of
combustible gas atoms to thermally ignite. Incoming ambient air gases are laser primed and ionized when
passing through a gas processor; and an electron extraction circuit (Figure 5) captures and consumes in sink 55
ejected electrons and prevents electron flow into the resonant circuit.
In terms of performance, reliability and safety, ionized air gases and water fuel liquid do not become volatile
until the fuel mixture reaches the voltage and combustion zones. Injected non-combustible gases retard and
control the combustion rate of hydrogen during gas ignition.
In alternate applications, laser primed ionized liquid oxygen and laser primed liquid hydrogen stored in
separate fuel tanks can be used in place of the fuel mixture, or liquefied ambient air gases alone with water can
be substituted as a fuel source.
The injector assembly is design variable and is retrofitable to fossil fuel injector ports conventionally used in
jet/rocket engines, grain dryers, blast furnaces, heating systems, internal combustion engines and the like.
All patent information taken from here: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 --
Water FueI Injection System
Hope this helps in your understanding of the water fuel injectors (WFI's)
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In the injector, water mist (forming droplets in the range, for example, of from 10 to 250 microns and above,
with size being related to voltage intensity) is injected into fuel-mixing and polarizing zone by way of water
spray nozzles 1A1. The tendency of water to form a bead or droplet is a parameter related to droplet mist size
and voltage intensity. Ionized air gases and non-combustible gases, introduced through nozzles 2A1 and 3A1,
are intermixed with the expelling water mist to form a fuel-mixture which enters into voltage zone 6 where the
mixture is exposed to a pulsating, unipolar high intensity voltage field (typically 20,000 volts at 50 KHz or
above at the resonant condition in which current flow in the circuit [amps] is reduced to a minimum), created
between electrodes 7 and 8.

Water droplet size of fog:

Quote:
Clouds fog and water droplets
...in any one cloud the drops range greatly in size from 1 to 100 micron dia.
The math of the process for the reaction to break and form the water molecule under normal conditions.
4 H-O 459 kJ/mol bonds are broken taking 1836 kJ/mol to do so.
2 H-H 436 kJ/mol bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 498 kJ/mol are formed yielding 1370 kJ/mol.
This is why all scientist say it takes more energy to break the bonds of water than you get from combining
them, for the net sum of the reaction is positive, 1836-1370 = 466 kJ/mol.
Now adding in what the gas processor is doing you get this: Stanley Meyer said he stripped four or more
electrons off of the oxygen atom so let us take a look at the reactions as told to us in the patent.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level is as follows:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yielding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of
the reaction now is 1836 - 8341.2 = -6505.2 kJ/mol
5th
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 10090.5 kJ/mol = 10962.5 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction is
1836 - 10962.5 = -9126.5 kJ/mol.
6th
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 13326.5 kJ/mol = 14198.5 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction is
1836 - 14198.5 = -12362.5 kJ/mol.
Now this is more than 2.54 times the energy content of that of gasoline, and gives a most probable answer to
the question of, "How did Stanley Meyer run his 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.?"
For you still have two more electrons to strip off.
The ionized oxygen atoms have more than enough energy content to break down the water molecule, but they
need a spark or ignition source to start the reaction, and as told in the patent the water droplet size has to be
from 10 to 250 microns or above. The larger the droplet size the more energy is needed to break the bonds of
the water molecule. The gas processor is the one striping the electrons from the oxygen atom flowing through
it coming from the outside air supply.
All of Stanley Meyer's work on this is about electric fields and moving media. The moving media is what is
changing with all of his designs, the WFC the medium is water, the injectors the medium is fog, and the gas
processor the medium is air. Now with both Stanley Meyer methods he employed for use on his dune buggy
the gas processor was a vital part of the system as it is found in both systems.
The one thing that stands out in this thread compared to any and all talks found on the internet is I talk of
energy content, and show energy content calculations. I am also the only one talking about the Gas Processor
and Electron Extraction Circuit, plus more. Trust me your not going to find this type of information on the net
any place but here for now and other places I have chosen to place this information.
Enjoy the gift of energy independence,
The analogy of the lighting storm is definitely on the right track. For inside of the cloud the water droplets are
being broken down by the electric field and moving media of such a large capacitor. Now you came to this
conclusion all on your own without reading the thread fully yet:thumbsup: . That is great for it show you can
see now how some of it comes together.
Let me fill in the blanks for you. The first thing that is being done to the water in the water injection system is
it is being heated up by the Steam Resonator to around 90 degrees Celsius or more. Since it is under pressure
one can take it above 100 degrees Celsius and it wont boil. Now the voltage zone is in a place of low pressure
so when this hot water is injected into a low pressure zone a lot of it turns into water vapor, not steam, and this
is the very first step in the process of getting fog like droplet size to start off with prior to entering the voltage
zone of the injector. It does this due to the boiling point of water is lower in the low pressure zone this is
following my talks about the phase diagram of water found in this thread. The second step is the construction
of the voltage zone and it's power supply. The power supply is pulse DC and the construction Meyer talks
about in the patent of liner, and tapered cavities. Now this is where my looks at science changed some things
in the way I will be making them. The center electrode of the voltage zone will be a glass tube filled with
copper and the outside 316 SS. This way the true nature of how it is all work can take place with out worrying
about arc over as glass is also a dielectric liquid but one with a far higher breakdown voltage than that of
water. Water as a dielectric liquid will only take so much of a charge when free floating as it is a polar
molecule and when it is free floating it act just like a capacitor. Once a critical voltage is reached(around 20k
volts) the water droplet divides into two smaller water droplets dividing the voltage between them. But due the
power supply of the voltage zone those freshly divided water droplets are recharged and the process repeats. It
keeps taking on this image charge as long as it is inside of the pulsating voltage zone. Once a critical volume
is reached in the water droplet size the next charge up will simply break the water droplet into it's component
atoms for an image charge doesn't have the current necessary to ignite the hydrogen and oxygen mixture so by
all accounts the bonds simple break apart. Any gas created while still inside of the voltage zone is subject to
being stripped of electrons in the same manor as the Gas Processor is doing to the incoming air supply.
Now Meyer talks about the relationship of the droplet size and voltage requirements to achieve this effect in
the Canadian patent: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 -- Water Fuel Injection
System
Quote:
In the voltage zone several functions occur simultaneously to initiate and trigger thermal energy yield. Water
mist droplets are exposed to high intensity pulsating voltage fields in accordance with an electrical
polarization process that separates the atoms of the water molecule and causes the atoms to experience
electron ejection. The polar nature of the water molecule which facilitates the formation of minute droplets in
the mist appears to cause a relationship between the droplet size and the voltage required to effect the process,
i.e., the greater the droplet size, the higher the voltage required. The liberated atoms of the water molecule
interact with laser primed ionized ambient air gases to cause a highly energized and destabilized mass of
combustible gas atoms to thermally ignite. Incoming ambient air gases are laser primed and ionized when
passing through a gas processor; and an electron extraction circuit (Figure 5) captures and consumes in sink 55
ejected electrons and prevents electron flow into the resonant circuit.
Now this patent tell most of what is needed to know but seems to assumes the reader knows the purpose of the
rest of the systems like the Steam Resonator. And if you read it carefully you will see that it is a circuit
resonance not a resonance with the water, but the water is apart of the circuit as it is acting as the dielectric
material moving through the capacitor. This is why I say the whole system is one that can be best described as
"Electric fields and Moving Media" the medium is the one that is changing with the different systems. In the
Gas Processor the medium is the incoming air supply, in the injectors it is the fog like water mist, and just for
clarity for those wanting to use the WFC the medium is untreated water. This patent also let everyone know
just what is considered to be the explosive mixture and that mixture is, "water mist and ionized air" coming
from the Gas Processor. The recirculated exhaust gases are to impede the reaction so the burn rate of the
mixture can be controlled and set to a desired rate by the end user. It also controls the heat of the reaction so
you can set it to a temperature just below that to create Nitrogen Monoxide from the incoming air supply and
that keeps us out of trouble with the clear air act most countries have adopted to try and keep the skies clean
and clear. Can you see just how close you where to solving all of this? Way to go!
Now after the water mist has gone through all of this it is finally spark ignited in the typical combustion
engines and if a diesel engine got Meyer's kit then the heat of the rapid rise of the position in the combustion
chamber heating up the air according to gas law science PV=nRT. Once it reaches 500 degrees Celsius any
hydrogen will auto ignite and set off the reaction. Now in looking at the latest videos of Stanley Meyer's stuff I
can see that at first Meyer seems to not even had a voltage zone in the water injectors and later on so his
retrofit kit would work on gasoline and diesel cars he seems to have added on the injector voltage zones, but
only testing will determine that for sure. But the math that I uncovered does show that the ionized oxygen
atoms have more than enough energy to break down the water molecule if sparked or heat ignited to start the
reaction and that resulting reaction has more energy content than that of gasoline when four or more electrons
are stripped from the oxygen atoms.
Now when it comes to the wavelengths of light to use I have found that you want to stay away from 395 nm
wavelengths for that is primarily absorbed by the Nitrogen atoms. Oxygen most absorbed wavelength is
around 777.19, don't quote me on that for I am not looking at the source I found that out at, okay? When I
designed my Gas Processor I didn't know this information but he wavelengths I choose still are absorbed just
not as highly as that wavelength. But what I did do is follow mother nature cues in the wavelengths found in
the Aurora Borealis when oxygen atoms are ionized. Since I (we) can't see that wavelength I didn't know it
was apart of the reaction but all I have to do is buy some of the LEDs with this wavelength, replace some of
the LEDs, and problem solved:whistle: .
As you can see the way the injectors work to break down the water molecule is vastly different from the way
the WFC works to break down the water molecule. And to think one man seemed to figure this out all on his
own and I give this credit to Stanley Meyer as he is the one who made these patents we can all fall under with
safety from being sued by anyone since the patents have expired and are now apart of the public domain. Any
entity that get someone to sign a Non Discloser Agreement has only protected the coal, oil, and the rest of the
energy sellers best interest in making sure anyone that signs such a foolish agreement will be taken out of the
loop of producing such a device for if they talk they get jailed and problem solved. Like I said I am not stupid
enough to sign any type of an agreement with anyone for why would I for this technology is now in the public
domain. Only people full of greed fall for such tricks, for they are totally unwilling to just take the savings and
freedom this technology brings to ones life. No, they want to be rich and stand above the rest of us and that is
their downfall. Now to the many that have signed such agreements don't get all bent out of shape for these
guys are good at what they do, of that you more than likely have no idea of just how good they are at
protecting their best interest.

Now more on the wavelengths. I found this: Final Report | Singlet Delta Oxygen Airflow Sterilization for
Building Protection| Research Project Database | NCER | ORD | US EPA
And it shows that 764 nm wavelengths where used and they show a flow rate of 500 CFM. So it looks like I
might need to swap out some of my LEDs for LEDs of this wavelength. I will post more when I learn more.

Now I just ran a search on the wavelengths of the arura lights to refesh my memory on the different
wavelengths involved. 630-634 nm for first/ second level oxygen, 557.1 nm for third and fourth with 410.5 nm
aiding the fourth energy level. Nitrogen is around 390 nm, 395 nm, and 470 nm since I am not looking to do
anything with the nitrogen those wavelengths were not chosen. Something else interesting I found was the
ionizations occur perpendicular to the electromagnetic field and for the gas processor that is in the direction of
the air flow towards the intake system due to it being a capacitor and the field lines are always perpendicular
to a capacitors surfaces. That was just an interesting find and shows that this higher form of energy and the
electrostatic form of energy are both being used in the Gas Processor.
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