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DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, )
ET AL., )
Petitioners, )
v. ) No. 18-587
REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF )
CALIFORNIA, ET AL., )
Respondents. )
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7 cases.
8 General Francisco.
23 enforcement mission.
5 exercised it.
13 Go ahead.
10 GENERAL FRANCISCO: Uh --
12 still be non-reviewable?
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21 that it passes.
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6 critical Footnote 4.
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14 mean?
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15 Canal tolls.
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12 court.
17 general policy.
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11 lethal injection."
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10 --
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9 have?
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3 work authorization.
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17 there.
25 in this case?
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10 perpetuity.
14 explicitly.
22 JUSTICE GORSUCH: If I --
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13 more.
15 say to that?
16 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So --
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16 not just the people who came in, you know, the
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9 interest reliance --
16 read to me.
21 range of interests?
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13 specifically considered.
15 memo.
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3 JUSTICE KAGAN: If --
8 (Laughter.)
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18 of the program.
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10 non-enforcement decisions.
12 explicitly says --
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9 in DAPA --
15 that path.
20 enforcement policies.
24 to --
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13 limited resources --
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21 so --
23 lives.
24 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So --
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2 question.
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9 the memo?
13 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So --
16 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So -- so I --
19 destroy lives.
22 one.
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22 policies.
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2 logical extreme. So --
12 Honor.
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2 basis.
5 the --
10 Dreamers, period?
16 authorization.
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4 you --
13 saying it violated?
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8 INA.
14 enforcement policy.
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16 wind-down within --
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20 control.
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5 consequences of that.
23 that.
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5 of scenarios.
23 So -- so what's wrong?
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1 ahead.
12 itself.
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1 Duke memo.
4 will --
11 judgment.
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3 sound.
15 discontinue?
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8 DACA policy.
10 counsel.
11 MR. Olson.
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9 benefits.
14 measures.
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9 case.
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4 certain benefits.
7 prosecution.
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5 Court adopt?
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4 those decisions.
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9 people --
12 limiting principle?
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6 or property?
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4 government.
10 decision.
15 decision.
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8 that.
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5 contemporaneous decision.
11 administrative record.
16 of things wrong.
21 illegal.
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12 an administrative record.
18 independent.
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2 terminate it.
10 risk issue --
17 to rescind DACA?
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14 that.
18 that explanation.
23 interests?
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9 further?
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4 reason.
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25 judicial review.
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2 counsel.
3 Mr. Mongan.
24 basis.
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6 is unlawful.
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8 review.
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10 case.
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18 effect, a remand.
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23 considerations?
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13 of a remand is that --
23 counsel.
25 General Francisco.
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14 policies."
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