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DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, )
ET AL., )
Petitioners, )
v. ) No. 18-587
REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF )
CALIFORNIA, ET AL., )
Respondents. )
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7 cases.
8 General Francisco.
23 enforcement mission.
5 exercised it.
13 Go ahead.
10 GENERAL FRANCISCO: Uh --
12 still be non-reviewable?
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6 critical Footnote 4.
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15 Canal tolls.
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12 court.
17 general policy.
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11 lethal injection."
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10 have?
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11 perpetuity.
15 explicitly.
23 JUSTICE GORSUCH: If I --
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14 more.
16 say to that?
17 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So --
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17 not just the people who came in, you know, the
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10 interest reliance --
17 read to me.
22 range of interests?
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14 specifically considered.
16 memo.
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4 JUSTICE KAGAN: If --
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19 of the program.
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11 non-enforcement decisions.
13 explicitly says --
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10 in DAPA --
16 that path.
21 enforcement policies.
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14 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So --
17 GENERAL FRANCISCO: So -- so I --
20 destroy lives?
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23 policies.
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3 logical extreme. So --
13 Honor.
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3 basis.
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11 Dreamers, period?
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15 enforcement policy.
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2 Duke memo.
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9 DACA policy.
11 counsel.
12 Mr. Olson.
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10 benefits.
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